1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:03,200 Good afternoon. 2 00:00:06,940 --> 00:00:26,200 Welcome to Vernon City Council. September 8th, 2026, 1.30 p.m. I'll call this meeting to order. As mayor and city of Vernon, the spirit of this gathering, I recognize the city of Vernon is located in the traditional territory of the people of the Okanagan nation. 3 00:00:28,490 --> 00:00:36,490 Just as I did it, we get underway. I'd like to take a moment since this is our first time that we have met since the Bradley Creek wildfires. 4 00:00:36,490 --> 00:00:44,330 fire and the kilp took wildfire. As Mayor Vernon I want to express my sincere heartfelt condolences 5 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:52,550 to all those affected by the Bradley Creek wildfire. Thousands of people were evacuated from the 6 00:00:52,550 --> 00:00:59,010 fire zone and had to seek temporary accommodation leaving them to worry about what they'd left behind. 7 00:01:00,090 --> 00:01:09,590 As evacuation orders have been lifted, residents have returned to find their lives upended and upside down. 8 00:01:10,690 --> 00:01:14,210 Lost homes, structures, animals, and livelihoods. 9 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:18,790 I can only imagine how difficult this must be for them. 10 00:01:19,870 --> 00:01:24,630 I also want to say how proud I am of the people of City of Vernon. 11 00:01:25,450 --> 00:01:30,190 There has been a huge outpouring of support from the community. 12 00:01:30,930 --> 00:01:37,350 Many people have donated food, clothing, other necessities, or have given to the wildfire 13 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:41,370 response funds, the Salvation Army Food Bank or the United Way. 14 00:01:42,070 --> 00:01:48,110 School District 22 and local and regional businesses also stepped up to organize donations 15 00:01:48,850 --> 00:01:52,230 without a word, without a word of their own recognition. 16 00:01:52,990 --> 00:01:58,510 In addition, staff at the City of Vernon and other local communities, staff with provincial 17 00:01:58,510 --> 00:02:04,950 organizations, professionals, and paid on-call firefighters, BC wildfire service personnel, 18 00:02:05,490 --> 00:02:12,830 emergency operations staff here, emergency support staff, services staff, volunteers, and 19 00:02:12,830 --> 00:02:15,090 Okinawa, Indian band and emergency personnel. 20 00:02:15,450 --> 00:02:17,470 All deserve a huge thank you. 21 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:24,550 for how, for you, for your professionalism, generosity, and commitment to helping others 22 00:02:24,550 --> 00:02:28,190 during a traumatic and dangerous situation. 23 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:35,470 So as Marin Council continues to focus on response and resilience to drought, fire, and other 24 00:02:35,470 --> 00:02:36,350 extreme events. 25 00:02:36,830 --> 00:02:40,830 My thoughts were made with those who suffered the losses this summer. 26 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:43,390 And thank all who pitched in. 27 00:02:43,390 --> 00:02:44,350 Mr. 28 00:02:47,740 --> 00:02:50,240 Wood, are there any amendments to today's agenda? 29 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,120 Your worship, there is one addition to the agenda. 30 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,540 We'll go under item 13.a.2. 31 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,940 It's the Science Center request for letter of support, and there's a copy of them at your 32 00:03:05,940 --> 00:03:06,420 desks. 33 00:03:07,740 --> 00:03:08,480 Thank you, Mr. Wood. 34 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:12,720 Can I have a motion to adopt the agenda, Councillor Gai, Councillor Dernay? 35 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,860 Any comments on the agenda? 36 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,740 Seeing none, I'll call the question. 37 00:03:17,740 --> 00:03:18,660 and all those in favor. 38 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:22,100 Those opposed seeing none, motion is carried. 39 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,380 Can I get a motion to adopt the regular meeting minutes 40 00:03:26,380 --> 00:03:28,620 of the 20th of July, 2026? 41 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,220 The public hearing of the same date 42 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:34,780 and the committee of the whole also of July, 2026. 43 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,300 Councilor Munn, Councilor Garres, any comments? 44 00:03:39,780 --> 00:03:41,940 Seeing none, I'll call the question. 45 00:03:42,100 --> 00:03:42,840 All those in favor? 46 00:03:43,380 --> 00:03:45,660 Those opposed, motion is carried. 47 00:03:46,340 --> 00:03:51,860 So moving now to General Matters, we get a presentation from the RCMPs, second quarter 48 00:03:51,860 --> 00:03:57,920 report, and the superintendent gets to be the first one to drive the new bus for those 49 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:05,360 who are online or in the council chambers, you'll now find yourself facing another direction. 50 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:11,360 We've turned the council chambers 90 degrees and for those who knew the council of days 51 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,480 gone by, it was like this. 52 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:20,440 Yes, so we've returned back to the old and they've refreshed things like carpets and 53 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:26,780 electronics and cameras, hopefully to improve the experience for everyone involved. 54 00:04:27,380 --> 00:04:31,620 Welcome Superintendent and Inspector Kennedy, so you're standing at the back, much appreciated. 55 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:32,900 The floor is yours. 56 00:04:38,740 --> 00:04:43,160 Okay, good afternoon Mr. Mayor, thank you very much and council members and city staff. 57 00:04:43,740 --> 00:04:45,800 Thank you very much for having us here today. 58 00:04:46,420 --> 00:04:55,060 I have Inspector Kennedy who's actually going to present the quarterly reports for us and I will stay for the duration as well. 59 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:04,680 And just so you know with yourselves and all of our communities, this is what I'm having is I want to have that people are actually connected with operations a bit more. 60 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:12,000 I'm going to present the stats because they are theirs and they are well aware of the information and what's going on in real time. 61 00:05:12,980 --> 00:05:18,300 As you can see, the stats end at the end of June, so that's why I am having more of my 62 00:05:18,300 --> 00:05:22,660 operational people presenting these, but I will be here moving forward for the presentations 63 00:05:22,660 --> 00:05:23,140 as well. 64 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,300 So thank you for having me. 65 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:24,580 Thank you. 66 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,880 And I'll turn it over. 67 00:05:26,020 --> 00:05:26,520 Appreciate it. 68 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,240 I appreciate it. 69 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:35,380 Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor, staff and councillors. 70 00:05:35,940 --> 00:05:39,580 Quarter two reporting for the period of April to June. 71 00:05:39,580 --> 00:05:43,860 This happens to be a quarter that I'm happy to present because as you'll see, our numbers 72 00:05:43,860 --> 00:05:45,880 are actually very good. 73 00:05:48,690 --> 00:05:52,710 We get right into the first slide, total calls for service, 74 00:05:55,340 --> 00:05:56,280 working and I'm not working 75 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:56,680 at all. 76 00:05:57,100 --> 00:05:59,540 I've been given the control watch out people. 77 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:02,740 Okay, here we go. 78 00:06:03,100 --> 00:06:08,320 You see, for a city of Vernon, you can see that for the same quarter reporting from 2025 79 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:15,200 to 2026, your numbers are very so slightly 0.3%, so running about the same as this quarter 80 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:23,920 last year, from 5,028 to 5,044. So just marginally, I've ever so slightly criminal 81 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,060 code cases. 82 00:06:27,740 --> 00:06:33,800 We are down almost 3%. So these are your total of all types of criminal code offenses, 83 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:40,300 down from 1755, down to 1704, from the same period in 2025. 84 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:40,540 5. 85 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:52,120 Violent offenses. This is something to celebrate. Down 16.3% in this quarter from 319 in 2025 to 267. 86 00:06:56,110 --> 00:07:05,190 And property offenses just up ever so slightly. 2.1%. Again, a very small number of change from 922. 87 00:07:05,750 --> 00:07:10,010 20 more occurrences in 2026. Same reporting period, 942. 88 00:07:10,010 --> 00:07:10,090 2. 89 00:07:15,460 --> 00:07:21,100 Area where we're still striving to fit in all operational pressures and be visible 90 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:27,980 out on our roadways. We're down 19.8% in our overall traffic contacts for the city. 91 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Then we spoke last year about this time about body 1 cameras and the demands pressed put 92 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:41,140 on the police with extra reporting for Crown Council and so again this is a direct linkage 93 00:07:41,140 --> 00:07:42,680 to the reason for the decline. 94 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:49,060 We do have a reserve constable that's being brought on board who's primarily, one of his 95 00:07:49,060 --> 00:07:53,140 primary duties will be traffic enforcement in the city of Vernon 2, so we hope to have that 96 00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:53,740 number back up. 97 00:07:57,670 --> 00:08:03,030 I'm just going to speak real quickly on some of our key other areas such as prolific offenders 98 00:08:03,030 --> 00:08:07,550 just to give you an update in this reporting period we had 11 identified prolific offenders 99 00:08:07,550 --> 00:08:16,510 for who are remaining custody and seven who are not in custody of these seven reside in or known to frequent the city of Vernon. 100 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:26,710 On our re-voy, which is our report, repeat violent offender intervention, which is the provincial program that's funded through the province. 101 00:08:27,210 --> 00:08:36,650 We currently have six individuals identified in the Vernon, North Oregon, three currently remaining custody and three are out of custody who do reside in the Vernon area. 102 00:08:36,650 --> 00:08:40,310 And then we have a new provincial program that was introduced. 103 00:08:40,590 --> 00:08:45,130 Believe I spoke about it last meeting which is your chronic property offending intervention 104 00:08:45,130 --> 00:08:45,670 program. 105 00:08:46,110 --> 00:08:51,130 We're moving away from the term prolific offender as we transition those most highest 106 00:08:51,130 --> 00:08:56,530 repeat property crime offenders into what we're now calling C-poi, the chronic property offenders. 107 00:08:56,970 --> 00:09:01,190 And we now have two individuals who've been identified and are part of that program. 108 00:09:02,450 --> 00:09:05,890 And that are being monitored by our partner agencies as well as the police. 109 00:09:05,890 --> 00:09:06,610 I'm 110 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:15,280 just going to go into one last one. 111 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:23,480 So our mental health files down 37.7%, 532 occurrences compared to 331. 112 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:29,540 I checked in with our Integrated Program, the ICIR Integrated Crisis Response Team. 113 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:35,720 They've been working very hard to do a lot of education, working with clients that repeatedly 114 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:41,220 call police for support, and there's been measures put in place to reduce those calls, which 115 00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:45,720 which means there's less police intervention on what would typically be a mental health 116 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,720 or a health crisis. 117 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,660 So that is a direct result of the efforts and the education that's being done jointly 118 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:56,520 through our interior health partners and the nurses that work with us and our hospitals 119 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,620 that work with the program. 120 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:07,300 In this reporting period, we had a few community things that just make note of, so we ended 121 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:16,920 up out in the community. Again, it was the Jean-Mingé Youth Academy. We had 49 successful candidates 122 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:22,140 or 50, I believe, that went through another great successful year. We participated in 123 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:30,200 the capi days and also special Olympics softball game with special Olympics, which was a really 124 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,420 a good event. 125 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,700 Out and about in other communities as well. 126 00:10:36,460 --> 00:10:40,880 So, I can take any questions or concerns. I can also speak quickly on our efforts in 127 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:46,780 regards to e-bikes and e-dirt bikes. I know that was a hot topic last time. So, just 128 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:52,740 I'll give you a little preview to next quarter reporting, but since then, we have actually 129 00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:57,540 charged two individuals on the Motor Vehicle Act and the criminal code for driving while 130 00:10:57,540 --> 00:11:04,280 impaired on E devices. We have had also a 13-year-old, I mentioned last time it was going to happen 131 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:10,540 our community sooner than later. An incident unfortunately, luckily the 13-year-old youth was not 132 00:11:10,540 --> 00:11:16,040 hurt but was involved in a collision with a vehicle because they were failing to abide by the rules 133 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:23,600 of the road. So that's just a little brief update and we've had two alcohol-related instances where 134 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,400 where we've seized the, and seized the, the e-devices, and they've been impounded. 135 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:29,820 So, 136 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:36,080 the next, what I have for you this afternoon, happy to entertain any questions. 137 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,960 Thank you, Inspector. 138 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:41,240 Councillor Dernie. 139 00:11:41,740 --> 00:11:44,160 Thank you, and thank you for your presentation today. 140 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,420 It's always excellent when we get positive news. 141 00:11:47,780 --> 00:11:52,940 I just have a quick question just to clarify for me, the Repeat Violent Offender Intervention 142 00:11:52,940 --> 00:11:58,500 in the initiative and the chronic property offending intervention initiative. 143 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,160 Are those individuals like duplicated, like are they separate, or are they do some 144 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:09,460 belong, does an individual potentially belong to, like, both of those initiatives? 145 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Yeah, it's one or the other. 146 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,920 So there's criteria that the individuals who are presented to the programs that must 147 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,640 meet, and it's where the best are going to be monitored. 148 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,020 So, if an individual is both violent and commits property crime, but the violent 149 00:12:25,020 --> 00:12:29,940 offenses take the priority and they're going to be better suited to be monitored 150 00:12:29,940 --> 00:12:32,360 through that program, they're part of the re-voi. 151 00:12:32,980 --> 00:12:36,620 Individuals that are strictly just property crime and committing, like I said, it's 152 00:12:36,620 --> 00:12:39,100 usually the 5% committing 95% of the crime. 153 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,640 They would be strictly the new property crime C-poi program. 154 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,840 So, there is no duplication, so I want to speak of numbers. 155 00:12:48,220 --> 00:12:49,600 They would be completely separate parties. 156 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,840 That's good information, one more question. 157 00:12:52,140 --> 00:12:52,380 Absolutely. 158 00:12:52,640 --> 00:13:02,880 So I did notice this warning that at the coast a lot of the schools are not allowing e-bikes to chain up her secure on property for the youth. 159 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:10,260 I'm wondering if our school district here, if you've talked to them regarding any initiatives around maybe going in the same direction. 160 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,900 Yeah, so last time I presented, I mentioned we presented to school district 22. 161 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:20,860 They've taken the stance that no immobility devices will be allowed on school property. 162 00:13:21,220 --> 00:13:35,160 However, I will have to follow up with our school different superintendent to see if they're going to apply that to the 16 year olds that are actually illegally allowed to ride electric assisted bikes, or 14 year olds who are allowed to legally ride light ebikes. 163 00:13:35,620 --> 00:13:43,440 I do believe at first, first blush, they were going to not allow any, but I have to see if their positions changed. 164 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:50,240 But for sure, no e-shooters, they weren't allowing any, you know, segues or the e-dirt bikes at all. 165 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:50,480 Excellent. 166 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:51,920 Okay, thank you so much. 167 00:13:52,020 --> 00:13:53,080 And thank you again for your work. 168 00:13:55,620 --> 00:13:56,120 Councilor Schur. 169 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:57,600 I agree with you. 170 00:13:57,660 --> 00:14:00,260 This is a good report to come in and report on. 171 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:02,880 So I had a question around mental health. 172 00:14:03,220 --> 00:14:07,240 So your mental health calls increased by 37.7%, which is positive. 173 00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:14,040 With the ICRT's response to 200 calls and the rollout of the Health IM app, 174 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,700 Can you comment on how the real-time data is improving outcomes? 175 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,220 I was prepared. 176 00:14:20,580 --> 00:14:25,480 I did not have quarter two's Health I Am report for you, but starting next quarter I think 177 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,020 it'd be appropriate to share some of that data for you. 178 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,580 So for example, I can speak to August. 179 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:36,120 I have August, it's not part of this quarter that I'm presenting on, but just to highlight, 180 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:43,940 we had 13 mental health occurrences of those 13, 13 individuals were apprehended 181 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:49,860 under the Mental Health Act, two were repeat clients, meaning we had previously apprehended 182 00:14:49,860 --> 00:14:50,200 them. 183 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:57,300 There was the other 11 were brand new, brand new, present, what they call brand new presentations, 184 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,320 and there was no chronic. 185 00:14:59,320 --> 00:14:59,620 Cross. 186 00:15:00,050 --> 00:15:29,810 Or in a 90-day period, we did not have any of those. So moving forward, I am prepared and will provide you with a quarterly two or a quarterly three report of the overall meant to health breakdown. We can include that for you. Starting out to be a very valuable tool. Helping officers make a better informed decision. And also, like I said, to the work of our program, the ICRT car, that partnership is proving invaluable as far as reducing 187 00:15:29,810 --> 00:15:35,550 using the amount of time police officers are spending on what is otherwise a mental health call. 188 00:15:36,530 --> 00:15:42,630 So then one last question, so is anecdotally do you feel then that it is actually saving time for your members? 189 00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:44,790 Like are you seeing that time reduction? 190 00:15:47,470 --> 00:15:48,010 Time will tell. 191 00:15:48,450 --> 00:15:53,990 Okay, but I would be more than happy if you ask that question to me in three to four months. 192 00:15:54,530 --> 00:15:59,630 I can show you the statistical data on our wait times at the hospital and I can tell you right now 193 00:15:59,630 --> 00:16:04,270 our weektimes are averaging anywhere between 40 minutes to one hour which is 194 00:16:04,270 --> 00:16:08,850 really really good. We like to see it down under 40 minutes but we're working 195 00:16:08,850 --> 00:16:13,090 with our partners and they have their own pressures as well but with that is 196 00:16:13,090 --> 00:16:16,190 where we're also seeing a benefit is that real-time data getting to the 197 00:16:16,190 --> 00:16:20,750 hospital in advance of our attendance for it to be reviewed for them to be prepared 198 00:16:20,750 --> 00:16:25,590 for our attendance to see a quick turnover between a police apprehension and then 199 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:28,930 when the doctor makes the decision to commit or not. 200 00:16:29,850 --> 00:16:33,190 I could tell you, comparatively, from the law of mainland, you're looking in excess 201 00:16:33,190 --> 00:16:37,870 of three hours of wait time, which is a huge drain on police resourcing, right? 202 00:16:38,070 --> 00:16:41,330 So here, we're very fortunate that we've got a great partnership with Interior Health, 203 00:16:41,510 --> 00:16:45,470 and that our wait times are, in fact, on the lower end of under an hour, which is really 204 00:16:45,470 --> 00:16:45,890 promising. 205 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Councillor Gai. 206 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,900 Thanks, Mr. Mayor, and thanks for the report. 207 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,300 Like you did, as you said, it's a good report. 208 00:16:55,300 --> 00:17:00,160 I had three points and you've actually touched on all of them already. 209 00:17:00,740 --> 00:17:05,080 The first was about mental health files, but you answered my question in your presentation. 210 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:14,160 On the traffic counts, you focused on the Vernon numbers in your remarks and indeed they 211 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:14,540 are down. 212 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:22,000 But overall, in the region, they're up almost to the level they were at two years ago. 213 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,360 up 20% roughly overall, and including this category, 214 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:32,720 Vernon Provincial, where there are almost like twice as many as last year. 215 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,600 Do you want to say anything about that? 216 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:42,940 Many of them are up, it's really just Vernon that's notably not up. 217 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:44,140 Right. 218 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,700 Generally, as an integrated attachment, any road safety that's done anywhere 219 00:17:48,700 --> 00:17:51,760 through any of the communities, is a direct benefit to the city of Vernon. 220 00:17:52,940 --> 00:17:57,120 Our citizens travel throughout our region, not exclusively just in Vernon. 221 00:17:57,540 --> 00:18:00,780 So, Vernon resident could possibly be stopped in Armstrong. 222 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:08,640 So generally speaking, stat setter up, traffic wise, it is a benefit to the greater area, isn't it? 223 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,120 Okay, thanks. 224 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:16,500 And the other thing was about the kids on e-bikes, that was another thing that I was concerned about last June when we talked about it. 225 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:23,680 I think it was June, and at that time you talked about your heavy focus being on education. 226 00:18:24,540 --> 00:18:30,140 And now that school is back, are you going to be ramping up your presence in the schools, 227 00:18:30,380 --> 00:18:32,660 doing education for kids and parents and teachers? 228 00:18:33,140 --> 00:18:38,280 We'll be going back again, too, so we're going to work with our partners and leverage that 229 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,120 capacity and have school district assist us because it's not possible for us to present to 230 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:48,600 every single parent, but we will make ourselves available at certain meetings where it would 231 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,300 be most valuable for us to be present and to present on this, but we're going to really 232 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:56,960 leverage the partnership that we have with the school district to really champion this. 233 00:18:57,420 --> 00:19:03,260 Our time again is, we don't have a lot of unfettered time, so we'll choose to use it wisely, 234 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,620 but where appropriate we most certainly will go in and join with our partners with the 235 00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:08,820 school district to make presentations. 236 00:19:09,380 --> 00:19:17,380 So I don't have anything lined up, but I'll be working through Constable Chris Trolesky, who does is our primary point of contact for the school district management. 237 00:19:22,090 --> 00:19:23,730 Council and the additional comments. 238 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:37,760 I've noticed in my summer minor summer holidays this year that this issue of electrified devices goes well beyond the confines of the North Open. 239 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:46,300 I'll get, and it's a common comment amongst other provinces and other jurisdictions. 240 00:19:46,660 --> 00:19:55,420 So I'm glad we're taking it serious when you see an individual that the crossbars on 241 00:19:55,420 --> 00:20:03,920 a electric kick stutter are almost at his chin, then you know that the child is a child, 242 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:11,940 And probably should not be on electric kick scooter when the handlebar is about at their chin. 243 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:15,900 So yes, this is an ongoing issue. 244 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:22,940 And I know there are many communities that are quite concerned about the electric dirt bike, particularly. 245 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,520 And we've had our first incident here, unfortunately. 246 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:31,420 So we do appreciate you joining many forces, 247 00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:34,760 fair across the country beginning to deal with this. 248 00:20:35,540 --> 00:20:42,360 New and somewhat say enjoyable, but not so safe have it that's beginning to form. 249 00:20:42,620 --> 00:20:47,220 So much appreciated Superintendent, thank you also for the work you do. 250 00:20:47,620 --> 00:20:51,420 And seeing your members out in the boat, very helpful. 251 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,340 And also the two major wildfires in our area. 252 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,600 And I do know that your staff was there at the beginning, knocking on doors, 253 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:05,360 helping panic to people, move the region very, very quickly, so I've had a 254 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:09,480 number of thank yous expressed to me, whether I was in a grocery store or 255 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:15,100 somewhere else people wanting to make sure that your forces were aware of how 256 00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:20,280 they changed their life by having one of your members pounding at their door 257 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,460 and saying no, they didn't have time to welcome their trailer and it was time to go 258 00:21:25,460 --> 00:21:32,560 and go quickly. So thank you very much. Thanks here, your force for reacting so quickly on that 259 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:38,020 very traumatic Saturday afternoon. Much appreciated. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. 260 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,320 Council, could I have a motion to receive? Please, Councillor Garrison, 261 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,580 Councillor Mung. Any comments? Seeing none, call the questionals in favor. 262 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,960 I suppose motion carries. Thank you, gentlemen. 263 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,140 Next item. 264 00:21:57,140 --> 00:22:04,620 My presentation of the Council Remuneration Committee and I welcome Ms. Rachel and so much 265 00:22:04,620 --> 00:22:05,220 to appreciate it. 266 00:22:05,380 --> 00:22:07,240 Thanks for joining us this afternoon. 267 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,960 The floor is yours. 268 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Have 269 00:23:09,870 --> 00:23:14,630 we got you up on the screen or have you got your notes? 270 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:15,790 I got it. 271 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:16,650 Click. 272 00:23:18,010 --> 00:23:19,530 Missiles, are we waiting for something? 273 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:22,480 Good. 274 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:23,480 And is it operating? 275 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,220 The microphone is not operating? 276 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,040 No, they're going to have to go green or blue. There's a second color. 277 00:23:54,970 --> 00:23:56,830 We're a high technical place here. 278 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,460 All right, we'll start with that. Pardon us. 279 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. 280 00:24:25,710 --> 00:24:26,250 So sorry. 281 00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:55,410 Thank you, Ms. Alas. 282 00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:56,790 Okay, let's try this again. 283 00:24:56,830 --> 00:25:01,950 We'll start again. Thank you, Ms. Ann. Sorry if the first day after major changes. 284 00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:04,770 Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor. 285 00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:13,530 Councillors and staff. My name is Rachel Ns, and I'll be presenting the Remuneration Committee 286 00:25:13,530 --> 00:25:21,510 report. Myself Glenn Benesheck in Debra Law met over the summer, did quite a number 287 00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:33,190 of, sorry, quite an amount of research about pay structures within City Council and the 288 00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:47,170 there, we compared Vernon with several comparative cities and our conclusions were the recommendations 289 00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:56,390 that were making to council was to find the right balance between keeping costs for 290 00:25:56,390 --> 00:26:06,950 payers reasonable but also suggesting a fair inequitable pay structure for our 291 00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:16,790 counselors. Our findings are the summary of our report is that the mayor's 292 00:26:16,790 --> 00:26:24,410 salary is to be adjusted in 2026 by applying the average of the previous four 293 00:26:24,410 --> 00:26:27,210 year, sorry, 294 00:26:32,350 --> 00:26:39,510 trying to read it, applying the previous four-year annual BC consumer price 295 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:45,870 index, August over August, to their salary, a cost of living adjustment, effective inauguration 296 00:26:45,870 --> 00:26:53,050 day. So, in other words, the mayor's salary will stay on par with what it is. Counselor's 297 00:26:53,050 --> 00:27:06,870 salary will be increased to 40% of the salary of the mayor after the salary of the mayor is adjusted for the consumer price index effective inauguration day. 298 00:27:07,650 --> 00:27:18,230 The mayor's salary will continue to have an annual cost of living adjustment based on the previous four years effective November 1st of each year. 299 00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:25,590 Mayor and council will receive the exempt staff benefit package with the exception of long-term 300 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:33,230 disability and the municipal pension plan. We've eliminated the committee meeting pay stipend 301 00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:40,610 found in the policy and that was because of the increase to councilor salaries. 302 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,600 And we made one 303 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:58,400 Another recommendation that should the acting mayor be away from their role for either an 304 00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:18,640 injury or a long term disability, if that becomes greater than 60 days, the counselor who is filling in as acting mayor will be paid at the mayor's salary for the months or months that are in addition to those 60 days. 305 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,840 And that is the gist of our report. 306 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,240 Thank you. 307 00:28:26,020 --> 00:28:27,160 Thank you, Ms. Ns. 308 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,320 I appreciate it. 309 00:28:29,060 --> 00:28:34,380 Council and any questions of Ms. Ns representing the committee. 310 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:36,740 Councilor Monten. 311 00:28:39,850 --> 00:28:40,550 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 312 00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:48,770 When you look at it, it looks kind of bad at getting an increase as we're going into this year. 313 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:59,570 But I thought about this and I said it would be look even worse if the new council came in and they were making the decision so I think the decision will be best if we make it. 314 00:29:01,490 --> 00:29:08,290 I'm glad that we're getting rid of the stipend. I think that's the right move. I've always I've never collected the stipend of my 12 years here. 315 00:29:08,290 --> 00:29:14,130 So, um, but I think that's, uh, I've always considered a part of our job. 316 00:29:15,490 --> 00:29:19,490 Then you got to consider if there's any committees where people have to travel. 317 00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:27,290 Um, I think there still should be something there, you know, um, you're, when you're traveling, 318 00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:32,770 sometimes you have to travel, protect and wail to Sam and arm and then meeting and then back. 319 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:41,650 Again, this isn't for me, this is for consideration for others who may have to take time off work to do this committee work. 320 00:29:42,730 --> 00:29:47,050 That's otherwise, I like the recommendations, I'm fine with them. 321 00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:57,090 I just want to make sure that we consider not just ourselves, we think we're all pretty well off here, but somebody else runs for... 322 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,060 Can't hesitate time off of work to do the jobs of traveling out of town. Probably should be paid for somehow. 323 00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:35,620 Council gears. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And thank you very much for your group for putting all the work together. I know it's not an easy task to determine what the best remuneration would be for any incoming council. With regards to this to the stipend, I do agree with that. 324 00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:51,640 I like my fellow councillor here in the eight years I've been here, I've never actually taken a stipend, but I think it's important for us to note that that is, if I'm correct, that stipend is only applicable to internal city of Vernon committees, not external. 325 00:30:52,780 --> 00:31:02,140 Most of the committees where you tend to do some traveling are usually external committees and they're not typically the internal ones anyway and there's different. 326 00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:08,480 and rules and regulations that are around those external committees from those organizations 327 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,520 that are putting that on. 328 00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:15,760 So I think with the increase in the Councillor Pay that offsets what those stipends would be 329 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,980 and it makes it a bit more fair and equitable because the one thing I don't think we've actually 330 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:27,660 acknowledged is that you may never get on any of those external or those internal committees. 331 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:32,680 And so those individuals that are continually on there would have that advantage to be able 332 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:38,200 to collect that stipend, even though we might be placed on a bunch of external committees 333 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,420 that don't actually have a stipend that's applicable to that. 334 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,840 So I think this is just fair and it allows the public to really know exactly what that value 335 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,720 is and it's consistent across the board. 336 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:56,380 So I think the recommendations are fair and I would be prepared to support the recommendation 337 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:13,480 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And thank you, Rachel, for this excellent work. I also, I'm in support of not having a stipend. 338 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:24,660 I do just have a question, it's only because I don't know any task is, when Councillors travel or, like excessively, for their role, 339 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,100 is there anything internally with the city that covers their kilometers for travel? 340 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:35,070 I 341 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,360 believe there's a separate policy for travel. 342 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:51,560 Okay, and I do know that some of the committee meetings they actually pay you to travel, so thank you for that, and thank you for your work. 343 00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:56,120 I think it's excellent, and we're moving in the right direction for the next council coming on. 344 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,640 Councilor Guy. 345 00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:02,320 Yeah, thanks, Ms. Nair. 346 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:09,040 Yeah, firstly, external committees have their own salary and the way of dealing with pay 347 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,340 for meetings. So we're not talking about that here. We're just talking about internal committee meetings. 348 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:25,720 And we set up the membership of those meetings every year, and each of us sits on two or maybe three such committees. 349 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,760 And we don't do much traveling. Any traveling meetings are usually right here. 350 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,640 So I don't think that's a problem, so I like what you've suggested there. 351 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,440 Acting pay for absences of more than 60 days. 352 00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:43,680 So it's a good idea, except that we have a different acting mayor every month. 353 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,000 So for the first 30 days of an absence, we've got one mayor for the next 30 days. 354 00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:52,380 One acting mayor for the next 30 days, we have another acting mayor. 355 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,700 And then after day 60, there'd be a third acting mayor. 356 00:34:00,460 --> 00:34:05,040 So, no acting mayor is the way we do it is ever going to act for more than 30 days. 357 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,160 So I'm not sure that as long as we keep the way we're doing it now, we don't need this. 358 00:34:15,850 --> 00:34:18,270 So who would get the big boost in salary? 359 00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:21,470 Sorry, the third acting mayor came in on day 61. 360 00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:26,330 Ms. Boyle, good question. 361 00:34:27,370 --> 00:34:27,830 Thanks, Your Worship. 362 00:34:30,350 --> 00:34:35,430 When council appoints their acting mayor as your corrects every month, should the mayor 363 00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:42,450 not be in attendance for greater than 60 days, whoever the acting mayor is in that given month 364 00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:47,810 would be eligible for the mayor's salary, as it rotates to the next person, then they would 365 00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:53,550 be eligible for that salary until the Americans returns to the chair position. 366 00:34:55,390 --> 00:34:55,690 Okay. 367 00:34:56,150 --> 00:34:56,410 That's fair. 368 00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:57,370 Okay. 369 00:34:57,750 --> 00:35:05,250 The other question about long-term disability, your report says that counselors aren't eligible 370 00:35:05,250 --> 00:35:06,710 because we aren't full time. 371 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,910 In that case, why do we do it now? 372 00:35:11,290 --> 00:35:13,250 And why does any municipality do it now? 373 00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:17,890 Now you said in your report that about 10% of the municipality surveyed actually do it now, 374 00:35:17,970 --> 00:35:19,550 but none of them have full-time councillors, 375 00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:22,680 Mr. Wood. 376 00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:25,670 Thanks, Your Worship. 377 00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:33,050 The current benefit package currently on the books and with the current policy is that the mayor's 378 00:35:33,050 --> 00:35:37,930 full-time position and councillors are part-time positions at greater than 20 hours per week. 379 00:35:38,530 --> 00:35:40,850 As such, that's how the benefit package rolls out. 380 00:35:40,850 --> 00:35:47,930 So the mayor is eligible for a full-time benefit package, and council is eligible for the part-time benefit package. 381 00:35:48,510 --> 00:36:01,210 The only change that would be considered should council approve the policy is that the benefits are all the same as they currently are, except for LTD will not be included in the benefit package, but nothing else changes. 382 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,080 Quick question. Has it been in the past that LTD was part of the package? 383 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,100 Yes, it has. So it's part of the package now. 384 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:18,580 And the recommendation is to remove it from the package. 385 00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:24,300 And the reason is that we aren't full time. 386 00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:30,260 No, I would suggest the reason is that the reason would be is that you're not ongoing 387 00:36:30,260 --> 00:36:31,700 past four years, 388 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,000 potentially. 389 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:35,900 No. 390 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:44,010 Okay, as long as the reason is holds up, it just seems inconsistent, like some municipalities 391 00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:45,050 do it and some don't. 392 00:36:45,830 --> 00:36:50,630 Yeah, your worship, when we did look at all the municipalities, there was very few 393 00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:54,650 who actually offered LTD as one of their benefit options. 394 00:36:55,590 --> 00:36:55,990 Right, 395 00:36:58,410 --> 00:36:58,750 okay, 396 00:37:01,370 --> 00:37:02,830 okay, that's good enough for me. 397 00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:07,680 Come to fair. 398 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,400 Yeah, I have a question I've always been curious about, but never asked, and that was the 399 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:22,140 perfect time for. Around, since the Councillors are considered part time over 20, part time employees 400 00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:27,960 would probably be eligible for pension contributions. I'm just curious as Council has ever been 401 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,620 and just around the rationale. 402 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:34,940 This would. 403 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:41,220 Your Worship, the Municipal Pension Plan does not allow municipalities to offer pension 404 00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:42,260 to health for members. 405 00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:44,180 Yeah. 406 00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:44,600 Thank you. 407 00:37:48,340 --> 00:37:55,300 And in the past for the future, no other pension plan type system is being proposed. 408 00:37:58,170 --> 00:37:58,390 Okay. 409 00:37:58,850 --> 00:37:59,050 Thank you. 410 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:11,100 The only question I have is related to the historically, we established $2.44 per person 411 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:18,180 as sort of the base that we worked from and based on the population of 2021. 412 00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:25,780 So, it's now in 2026 and this will apply to late 26 and early 27. 413 00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:31,880 Is there a reason for not having that 244 apply to our new population, 414 00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:35,880 in a sense? 415 00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:37,260 Yes. 416 00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:45,860 The numbers that we were looking at, we weren't just looking at 2021 population. 417 00:38:45,860 --> 00:38:52,840 We are also looking at cost of living increase and other metrics that 418 00:38:57,450 --> 00:39:00,330 increase the mayor's salary. 419 00:39:00,610 --> 00:39:11,850 So we didn't think that the 2021 numbers were too far out of line with current numbers to make a significant difference. 420 00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:22,690 So if population went up by 2,500 over the last five years, we would see an essence in 421 00:39:22,690 --> 00:39:27,430 burden situation of 5% or 6% growth in total population. 422 00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:30,890 And your indication is that that's not significant than we did. 423 00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:33,510 We don't need to bake that into future salaries. 424 00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:43,110 That's something for the next remuneration committee to look at when that gets re-evaluated. 425 00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:49,310 Because we've had significant population growth between 2021 and today. 426 00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:56,110 Because CPI just means that you're getting paid the same thing that you've got paid in 427 00:39:56,110 --> 00:40:03,110 in 2021, and it's just that your state, even with cost for living, I mean, there's been 428 00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:07,190 no change essence in the salary. 429 00:40:07,450 --> 00:40:11,670 There's been a change in the amount, but in terms of purchasing power, it's flat. 430 00:40:11,970 --> 00:40:14,170 Which is good. That's good. I'm not complaining about that. 431 00:40:14,510 --> 00:40:20,350 I'm just saying that it had this extra element which was that we should make it associated 432 00:40:20,350 --> 00:40:24,410 with size of the community. So we decided to drop that. 433 00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:26,130 That's not appropriate at this time. 434 00:40:27,730 --> 00:40:36,310 We didn't think that the change was significant enough to this time around to adjust it for that, 435 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:40,830 or to anticipate what it would be the next time it's evaluated. 436 00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:44,210 Okay. We'll watch that Canada. 437 00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:47,190 See what it says. 438 00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:55,530 But we are projecting at the time growth rates in the neighborhood of 2% annually. 439 00:40:55,950 --> 00:40:56,810 So substantial. 440 00:40:57,210 --> 00:40:58,990 I don't know what's actually happened over time. 441 00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:02,330 We'd leave that over to Mr. Nurali. 442 00:41:02,430 --> 00:41:06,270 He might have a better idea of what stats can as assuming our population is. 443 00:41:06,410 --> 00:41:10,150 But what is it, 44 up to 47 or 48? 444 00:41:10,930 --> 00:41:19,370 Yeah, so it's gone out almost 10% 9 and a half for 10% in size in five years. 445 00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:24,730 We weren't just looking at the 2021 population numbers. 446 00:41:26,270 --> 00:41:27,630 Okay, all right. 447 00:41:27,770 --> 00:41:35,710 No, I'm just trying to make the logic work here because we've had this gone from 44, probably 47, 448 00:41:35,710 --> 00:41:40,370 7 or 48,000, so almost 9% growth in size. 449 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:43,750 Okay, but I'm just trying to tie it to the other. 450 00:41:46,810 --> 00:41:47,270 Councilor Yeager. 451 00:41:48,010 --> 00:41:50,090 Thanks, just one other quick question, Rachel. 452 00:41:50,990 --> 00:41:56,690 On this stipend, the percentage of mayor's salary 453 00:41:57,210 --> 00:42:00,890 boost is 3% from 37 to 40, that you're recommending. 454 00:42:01,110 --> 00:42:05,770 And that's a fair, a good-sized boost. 455 00:42:05,770 --> 00:42:10,670 So we weren't making a boost to the mayor's salary? 456 00:42:10,830 --> 00:42:20,570 No, no, no, but you're saying that the percentage of the mayor's salary that a counselor would be paid would change from 37% to 40% right? 457 00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:22,130 Oh, correct, yes. 458 00:42:22,330 --> 00:42:23,490 Counselor's salary, yes. 459 00:42:23,530 --> 00:42:34,150 Yeah, yeah, and when you looked at the comprobals in terms of what that percentage should be. 460 00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:38,310 You concluded that 37 is a little low, so you wanted to put it up to 40, that's fine. 461 00:42:39,250 --> 00:42:47,770 But the comparable that you used, it used sort out in terms of those that pay meeting 462 00:42:47,770 --> 00:42:49,870 stipends separately versus those that don't. 463 00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:55,270 The comparable were looked at population size. 464 00:42:56,270 --> 00:43:09,070 So, some of those that pay the average of which you said was 39 percent, so a whole bunch of those might pay meeting stipends, and a whole bunch of them might not, you don't know. 465 00:43:10,930 --> 00:43:13,070 We were just looking at the base salary. 466 00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:14,830 Right. 467 00:43:14,910 --> 00:43:18,710 As far as I remember, we were looking at a lot of different things. 468 00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:29,370 So, before we were today, right now, we're, we're, we're, counselors are paid 37% of what the mayor's paid, plus there's these, there's a meeting stipend of $137 per meeting. 469 00:43:29,730 --> 00:43:35,770 Yes, one of the other reasons we decided to do away with that stipend was that no one was really collecting it. 470 00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:43,650 So it was, even though it was available, most counselors were not utilizing it, 471 00:43:43,650 --> 00:43:48,730 And so we've found it to be both unnecessary and irrelevant. 472 00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:54,870 So yeah, plus I assume that's a bit of administrative efficiency gain, too, without having another process. 473 00:43:55,090 --> 00:44:09,000 But anyway, so, okay, that's fine, I guess, on balance here satisfied that 40% is the right, about the right number. 474 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:15,460 Okay. With no stipend on top of the 40. 475 00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:23,890 Council, any other questions for Ms. Enth? 476 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,260 All right. Much appreciated, I think, so I'll put it up with a few pointed questions 477 00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:38,980 if we try to get clear on this. This is great. I'll call for a motion to receive. 478 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:46,580 Council adjourned. Councillor Faire. Any last comments? Seeing none, call the question. 479 00:44:46,580 --> 00:44:47,420 All those in favor? 480 00:44:47,780 --> 00:44:48,240 Those opposed? 481 00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:49,260 Motion is carried. 482 00:44:49,580 --> 00:44:50,380 Thank you very much. 483 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:51,980 Thanks for your committee work. 484 00:44:52,180 --> 00:44:53,000 And thanks to your colleagues. 485 00:44:55,180 --> 00:44:56,480 We'll move forward now. 486 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:56,920 Do I? 487 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,300 And you close your by-law, six, zero, eight, six of 2026. So I'll open up public input for the road closure. 488 00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:22,680 Ms. Wood, has there been any written submissions? Your worship, there's been no written submissions received. Thank you. So I'll call for a first time for any presentations from the public. 489 00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:32,060 I will now call a second time for presentations from the public. 490 00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:44,500 And I'll call for a third and final time for presentations from the public to the 43rd Avenue Rose Closure by the law 6-0-8-6. 491 00:45:50,670 --> 00:45:52,290 Public input is closed. 492 00:45:53,390 --> 00:45:56,010 Council, do you have any questions of staff? 493 00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:07,070 In kind of a motion, please. 494 00:46:07,450 --> 00:46:08,770 Councilor Guy, Councilor Durning. 495 00:46:10,050 --> 00:46:11,170 Any last comments? 496 00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:13,410 Seeing none, call the question. 497 00:46:13,410 --> 00:46:14,750 All those in favour of those opposed? 498 00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:16,830 Motion is carried. 499 00:46:17,710 --> 00:46:23,510 We'll move now to item 6, Councillor Inquiry, so are there any Councillor Inquiry's? 500 00:46:27,860 --> 00:46:31,220 Seeing none, we'll move now to Administration Updates, 501 00:46:33,740 --> 00:46:36,660 the move, Councillor Munn, Councillor 502 00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:37,060 Garis. 503 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,400 Any comments on the updates? 504 00:46:44,580 --> 00:46:45,080 Councillor Gai? 505 00:46:46,990 --> 00:46:53,930 Yeah, thanks. Just one thought that occurred to me reading this report, mentioning the Pelle 506 00:46:53,930 --> 00:46:56,330 wheeled park boat launch closure. 507 00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:04,030 James there, yeah. I just thought this might be a good 508 00:47:04,030 --> 00:47:14,350 opportunity to add a muscle, invasive muscle stencil, cleaned, rained, dry muscle stencil 509 00:47:14,350 --> 00:47:20,250 to the surface of the boat launch. This is something that OB has been working on forever. 510 00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:25,190 they've arranged a really good price on a large stencil 511 00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:28,710 that would go on the boat launch. 512 00:47:28,890 --> 00:47:33,190 And it just requires the launch to be closed for a day or two. 513 00:47:34,430 --> 00:47:35,670 And the best time to do it, obviously, 514 00:47:35,710 --> 00:47:37,090 is after the main boating season. 515 00:47:37,310 --> 00:47:42,330 So I'll be in touch with Carmen at the OBWB on this. 516 00:47:45,870 --> 00:47:48,070 They're installing, municipalities are installing 517 00:47:48,070 --> 00:47:52,290 these stencils on their main boat launches up and down the valley now. I'll talk to you later. 518 00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:09,870 All right. Call a question. All those in favour? Those opposed? Motion is carried. 519 00:48:13,090 --> 00:48:19,150 All right. Move, John. Finish. Business Council. Compensation says review committee draft report and 520 00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:23,790 policy recommendation. Could I have a motion, please? 521 00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:30,690 Councilor Durning, Councilor Fair, any last comments from Council? 522 00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:34,490 Seeing none, call the 523 00:48:34,490 --> 00:48:40,150 questionals in favour? Those opposed? Motion is carried. Thank you, committee. Much 524 00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:40,610 appreciated. 525 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,020 Just to close in comment, I think, in following up with Councilor Mundes' comment, 526 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:53,440 I think it is best that we continue with this process of putting it to the end of Council's 527 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,480 term as opposed to bringing it forward to the following council. I think that's been a great 528 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,960 addition. I think it was Council from Monday who started that process and when he was 529 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,560 mayor, so I just want to recognize that the process is a good one. And then thanks to the 530 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:14,400 committee members who do this quite willingly. Obviously, Mr. Benesheck has done it now. 531 00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:19,800 I think three times, which is really good. And I appreciate that. And I also appreciate 532 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:25,320 to two others who've taken it on Deb Law, who was familiar with these seats here for many, many years. 533 00:49:25,940 --> 00:49:28,460 And welcome yourself, Rachel, much appreciated. 534 00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:32,600 You would take some volunteer time and address what's your critical issue. 535 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:33,940 Thank you very much. 536 00:49:36,820 --> 00:49:40,900 All right, we'll move now to these declassivitation motions. 537 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,720 Do you read them out or no? 538 00:49:43,780 --> 00:49:44,880 They're just in the agenda. 539 00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:49,040 We've got the Business Research Expansion Economic Development Partnership. 540 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:56,120 For declassification, we've also had fire service pilot automation aid agreement with 541 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,160 the district coal stream. 542 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,520 We also have the active living center commercial retail unit lease. 543 00:50:03,020 --> 00:50:07,060 All three of those are declassified motions from in-camera meetings. 544 00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:16,000 We'll move now to item 10A, active living center nearing project milestone, aquatic center commissioning. 545 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,920 I 546 00:50:21,170 --> 00:50:25,850 think Mr. Ross, who's attended many, many times, was probably not expecting we'd be here 547 00:50:25,850 --> 00:50:26,310 by now. 548 00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:39,340 Welcome Mr. Ross, perfect timing, much 549 00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:45,680 to your surprise, your years and years of being 550 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,740 near this, you must have got an untimely sense of time. 551 00:50:55,940 --> 00:51:01,660 Just in the nick of time, thank you for making time for me this afternoon, I've got a brief 552 00:51:01,660 --> 00:51:07,420 memo for you about an upcoming project milestone with the Active Living Center. 553 00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:13,680 Some information in here that is about the filling of the pools and there's also some 554 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,760 about water conservation. 555 00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:19,760 So if there's any more detailed questions you have about the water reclamation site or 556 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,160 things like that, I'll ask for James to step in and answer those, but I can provide you 557 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,720 with the update on the ALC. 558 00:51:26,780 --> 00:51:30,940 So construction and the Active Living Center is progressing towards its planned opening and 559 00:51:30,940 --> 00:51:37,380 in later this year. The project is now entering the final stages of construction, testing, commissioning, and inspections. 560 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:45,460 The project's nearing a major milestone as we get ready for the aquatic center to move into the commissioning and systems testing phase. 561 00:51:46,060 --> 00:51:54,200 This critical work will ensure that the aquatic mechanical filtration and air handling systems are operating as intended before the facility opens. 562 00:51:54,200 --> 00:52:02,140 The facility has to be brought up to its full operating temperature so that we can test all of the air handling systems and things like that. 563 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:11,340 The city has worked closely with the regional district who is authorized the city to proceed with the filling of the ELC pools as part of this next phase of the project. 564 00:52:11,940 --> 00:52:15,660 And that work is scheduled to begin the week of the 14th. 565 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,640 And again, that is required to do all the testing for all the systems. 566 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,340 to get on the water house key and the pools has to be brought up to temperature. 567 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,760 This is timely because it actually aligns with the agricultural irrigation season when 568 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,080 demand we understand for demand for irrigation has decreased. 569 00:52:35,260 --> 00:52:37,800 The aquatic commissioning is on the project's critical path. 570 00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:43,940 So this is in addition to testing of the aquatic mechanical system, the pools need to be filled 571 00:52:43,940 --> 00:52:48,960 than operational before they can be inspected by interior health, who issues the operating 572 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:55,740 permit. In the spring, the city developed a plan to reduce municipal water use during 573 00:52:55,740 --> 00:52:59,580 stage three restrictions and work closely with the regional district to implement measures 574 00:52:59,580 --> 00:53:06,140 across its operations. The city reduced overall municipal water use by 60%, saving approximately 575 00:53:06,140 --> 00:53:13,060 55 megalitres of water, which exceeded the city's conservation targets. In addition, the city 576 00:53:13,060 --> 00:53:17,360 We continue to expand the use of reclaimed water to support agricultural users. 577 00:53:18,020 --> 00:53:22,040 The city partnered with regional district to temporarily connect Vernon's reclaimed water 578 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,940 system to the Arduino Non-Paudible Irrigation Network. 579 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:32,340 That initiative expanded access to reclaimed water for approximately 100 agricultural customers 580 00:53:32,750 --> 00:53:37,960 providing additional sources of irrigation supply during the ongoing drought conditions. 581 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:46,060 The ALC requires approximately 3.8 megalitres of water to fill its aquatic facilities. 582 00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:52,400 In August alone, the city supplied 77 megalitres of reclaimed water to supplement Arduino's 583 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:58,200 non-potable irrigation system, so that's equivalent to 20 times the volume that's required 584 00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,340 to fill the ALC. 585 00:54:00,420 --> 00:54:04,160 Use of reclaimed water helps reduce demand on potable water supplies. 586 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:15,120 The city has considered alternatives, including transporting water into Vernon by truck and from another water system as well as trying to reuse water from lake view and 587 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:30,160 laving to outdoor pools. Both of those options would have added significant costs to the project. Using water from the outdoor pools was also not recommended because it's previously been treated and it potentially could have debris in it from outdoor use. 588 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,500 Delaying the aquatic commissioning would have financial implications of approximately $100,000 589 00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:37,480 per week. 590 00:54:38,090 --> 00:54:44,680 The dry side of the ALC could potentially operate, but that would not avoid the costs associated 591 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,740 with delaying completion and commissioning of the aquatic components. 592 00:54:51,450 --> 00:54:55,480 So the project team and the communications department will continue to provide project 593 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,880 updates as the L.C. moves into the next phase of work and prepares for facility opening. 594 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:07,180 And I'll be back and provide a more detailed report to Council on September 28th, 595 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,100 when the facility will almost be ready to be opened. 596 00:55:12,290 --> 00:55:13,290 Do you have any questions? 597 00:55:13,330 --> 00:55:14,390 I'm happy to answer them. 598 00:55:14,410 --> 00:55:19,090 And again, if there's something technical about the rekindler, I'll ask James to step in and 599 00:55:19,090 --> 00:55:19,570 answer those. 600 00:55:22,290 --> 00:55:23,030 Thank you, Mr. Ross. 601 00:55:24,530 --> 00:55:24,970 Council, 602 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,440 Councilor Guy. 603 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:58,000 I like the argument that you made a decent rationale for giving us a bit of room to fill the pool with fresh water and actually it's even more than 20 times you mentioned 20 times the 77 that we saved with irrigation but then there's the 55 that we saved ourselves you know 130 or so total we saved right or more so that's more like 30 times or more than 30 times the pool volume so yeah good rationale, good report. 604 00:56:01,510 --> 00:56:03,290 Council or any other comments? 605 00:56:08,380 --> 00:56:11,060 Councilor Mondt, Councilor Garros, all in favor? 606 00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:13,580 Motion is carried. 607 00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:14,660 Thank you, Mr. Ross. 608 00:56:14,860 --> 00:56:19,620 We look forward to the 28th and the clink of someone handing over keys. 609 00:56:20,220 --> 00:56:20,340 Yes. 610 00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:21,640 Thank you very much. 611 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:22,380 Thank you. 612 00:56:25,540 --> 00:56:25,740 All right. 613 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,260 Move now to item 10b. 614 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:34,460 The Kalamalka Lake Road, 14th Avenue, Highway 6, multi-use path to the East Hill amendment. 615 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,860 Can I have a motion, please? 616 00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:49,080 Councilor Guy, Councilor Journey, welcome Mr. D'Haniac to our new facing, south-facing gallery, and presentation. 617 00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:50,820 It's right. 618 00:56:53,010 --> 00:56:54,770 Any questions from Mr. D'Haniac? 619 00:56:58,110 --> 00:56:58,510 Councilor Guy? 620 00:56:59,830 --> 00:57:00,690 Thanks, Mr. Smith. 621 00:57:00,970 --> 00:57:01,590 Just one question. 622 00:57:03,130 --> 00:57:04,250 Maybe two. 623 00:57:05,010 --> 00:57:12,060 I'm looking at the multi-use path just a minute now. 624 00:57:13,340 --> 00:57:15,160 Or maybe it's just a sidewalk. 625 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:21,540 I guess it's a sidewalk along the northwest side on the diagram. 626 00:57:22,060 --> 00:57:26,240 The northwest side of Highway 6 going from pottery road down the hill to the gym. 627 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,800 You want to put it up there, March? 628 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:30,600 Yeah, 629 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:49,430 it's that teal colored piece on the north side, northwest side of the highway running from 630 00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:50,870 pottery road down to the gym. 631 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,800 So it looks to me on the diagram that it stops before the 632 00:57:59,860 --> 00:58:07,560 gym on the uphill side of the gym. And so what I'm wondering is why would we not extend that at least 633 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:24,940 He's down to that driveway at the gym and maybe even beyond the gym all the way down to the existing intersection of Kelleg Road and the highway to meet up with that new sidewalk that we're going to build along the east side of Kelleg Road right there at that intersection. 634 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,200 I am. 635 00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:30,260 You were shipped by a apologize. 636 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,580 We did not show that there was an existing sidewalk in that location already. 637 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,820 So there already is a sidewalk for that entire stretch. 638 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,600 We highlighted some of the existing sidewalks. 639 00:58:40,820 --> 00:58:43,860 I apologize for not highlighting that one piece as well. 640 00:58:44,060 --> 00:58:46,420 But there is a sidewalk there. 641 00:58:49,940 --> 00:58:52,900 Oh, sorry, Councillor. 642 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:54,400 Go ahead. 643 00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:00,240 In that case, it's even a smaller job than I thought to extend that a few meters to the 644 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:06,340 driveway or even all the way to the intersection, pass the driveway all the way to the intersection. 645 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:08,940 Mr. Dye? 646 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,800 Your worship, our intention is to connect to the network completely in that location. 647 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,740 So the budget that's presented will connect the network. 648 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,820 So even though it doesn't show in the diagram, you're going to extend that sidewalk all the way along 649 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:33,120 I can't speak for certain, but I'm pretty certain there's a sidewalk in that location. 650 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,140 Okay. 651 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,420 Yeah, but not all the way down, and this is- 652 00:59:36,420 --> 00:59:41,960 I don't have it completely memorized each piece of the sidewalk and that network, but our 653 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:48,240 project team is planning to connect the entire sidewalk network and the multi-use network 654 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,120 through this project. 655 00:59:49,340 --> 00:59:49,520 Okay. 656 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,340 Well, that little piece is quite important. 657 00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:56,160 It's a well-known danger zone for people who get to the end of the sidewalk. 658 00:59:56,620 --> 00:59:57,100 And then they 659 01:00:01,330 --> 01:00:05,970 Especially kids and kids on bikes. Okay. 660 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:21,480 I don't see any other comments or questions on this one. Sometimes 661 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:31,780 you just have to yell hooray. This is a this is a project that's obviously been on our to do this for quite a while. 662 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,100 Personally, there's one extra element here. 663 01:00:37,620 --> 01:00:44,020 I'm really pleased to see the 14th Avenue, no post barriers being shifted from the 664 01:00:44,020 --> 01:00:45,400 north side to the south side. 665 01:00:46,300 --> 01:00:50,200 So I think that that in itself will lower my heart rate. 666 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,080 So I appreciate that. 667 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:59,780 That one was one that always, for me, generated significant anxiety when I would watch people 668 01:00:59,780 --> 01:01:10,800 crossing 14th Avenue there to get to the other side to ride behind the barriers to then cross again, and at the west side of 669 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:20,480 Keltair Head Office, it was always sort of interesting to watch the antics. So thank you, Mrs. Huston, and those in the transportation 670 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,540 the transportation department for recognizing that. 671 01:01:24,260 --> 01:01:27,380 So much appreciated, Councillor Gareth. 672 01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:29,020 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 673 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:34,660 I actually just wanted to recognize that there is one really big hooray on this one and 674 01:01:34,660 --> 01:01:37,280 that's the signal, the new intersection. 675 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:44,380 So if anyone drives past that intersection like I do on a daily basis, especially today with school being back in, 676 01:01:44,940 --> 01:01:47,420 the turn lane was incredible. 677 01:01:48,020 --> 01:01:52,960 For people trying to turn on to pottery road because of course I can't get to the 15th Street intersection. 678 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,260 So out of all of this, the public who was saying what is the city doing? 679 01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,640 Well, this is what we're doing. 680 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:00,860 We're putting in a signal. 681 01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:02,640 So right at the team on this one. 682 01:02:10,830 --> 01:02:15,830 I just need to go back to that light blue line indication that there is a sidewalk. 683 01:02:17,390 --> 01:02:24,490 My, when I go up onto essentials right now, there is no sidewalk between pottery road and the gym. 684 01:02:28,930 --> 01:02:42,230 There is a sidewalk from there to the intersection at the end, but the light blue section is missing. 685 01:02:42,490 --> 01:02:44,570 There is no sidewalk there today. 686 01:02:45,830 --> 01:02:57,310 I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. So that magenta piece we plan to build but there is sidewalk to the, I guess, northwest along the frontage of the gym. 687 01:02:58,070 --> 01:02:58,150 Right. 688 01:02:58,470 --> 01:03:10,910 Yep, so we do intend to build that piece of sidewalk and the way that we're doing it in this project is like quite a bit more economical than what we planned originally building a wide multi-space. 689 01:03:10,910 --> 01:03:16,890 path, the intersection kind of gets rid of the need for that multi-use path on the highway, 690 01:03:17,050 --> 01:03:24,070 but we intend to connect the sidewalk fully to pottery road and up to the existing sidewalk 691 01:03:24,070 --> 01:03:28,070 on the frontage of the gym there. Yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear there, I apologize. 692 01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:36,590 Super, thank you. I just was trying to, we were trying to clarify here up on the table and I wasn't 693 01:03:36,590 --> 01:03:38,630 getting it all off Mike, so to speak. 694 01:03:39,230 --> 01:03:39,390 Good. 695 01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:40,350 Thank you. 696 01:03:41,530 --> 01:03:43,910 And I'm thank you very much for your application 697 01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:46,170 to the grant funding. 698 01:03:46,650 --> 01:03:51,830 And it's quite amazing when you get this amount of money 699 01:03:51,830 --> 01:03:53,970 for a project like this, so much appreciated. 700 01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:56,490 Thanks for your work and thanks for your work, 701 01:03:56,530 --> 01:04:00,970 I'm a sir on making sure that this actually came up. 702 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,520 Council, I'll call the question. 703 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:07,200 All in favor. 704 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:07,840 It's it. 705 01:04:08,140 --> 01:04:08,860 Those opposed. 706 01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:09,520 Seeing none. 707 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,580 Motion is carried. 708 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,200 Quick question. 709 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,180 Does this now become a 27 project? 710 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,320 Your worship. 711 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,060 So the way the motions written is it's amendment of the 2026 project. 712 01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:22,420 Yes. 713 01:04:22,780 --> 01:04:25,580 With approval to spend the grant funding. 714 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:32,760 And then the use of some reserve funding that came back into reserve accounts from the hearing process. 715 01:04:33,420 --> 01:04:36,540 So you'll have design in 26 and construction in 27. 716 01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:45,340 That's correct. We intend to to go for competitive bids in the next couple weeks super. Thank you very much. Yeah, great 717 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,020 project. All 718 01:05:01,290 --> 01:05:03,930 right. Next was the crown lease. 719 01:05:04,550 --> 01:05:07,930 Yes, you move it. Second. Yeah, the roses pond. 720 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,040 Any questions from Miss are seeing 721 01:05:16,340 --> 01:05:18,120 none. I'll call the question. All is in favor. 722 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:26,060 Those opposed motion carried much of it many of us put a lot effort into the roses pond one and it's great to see this working together so easily 723 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:32,300 Next item Ken Beach the old community's strong fund grant application 724 01:05:35,410 --> 01:05:40,430 Can I have a motion please? Yeah? We've got councilor Durning the councilor guy 725 01:05:41,370 --> 01:05:43,410 Welcome Miss Price do 726 01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:48,770 we have any questions from Miss Price regarding 727 01:05:50,510 --> 01:05:52,890 can we put 728 01:06:05,020 --> 01:06:08,000 the concept up for those who are watching online? 729 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,880 The only thing I was surprised 730 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:40,080 about is the comment that the playground is aging out because the equipment seems to 731 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:46,200 be in very good shape. We don't have chipmains, we don't have, like it's surprised, but would 732 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,880 we use it somewhere else? Well, what will happen to the equipment from the 733 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,120 And it can be just as it's now, Mr. Reyes. 734 01:07:00,820 --> 01:07:02,060 Thank you, Mr. Reyes. 735 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:02,920 Thank you, Your Worship. 736 01:07:03,180 --> 01:07:08,440 We do have a professional risk and site inspector that does regular inspections on all of 737 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:14,280 our playgrounds, even though the Ken Beach playground from a distance looks like it's in good shape, 738 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,400 but actually has reached the end of its useful life. 739 01:07:16,540 --> 01:07:20,400 So there's very little there that would be salvaged for any other use. 740 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:30,780 All right, thank you, and I've looked at it much closer than that because I have grandkids, but if that's like a professional sense, 741 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,220 miss Price, any comment? 742 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:35,080 No, all right. 743 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:37,360 Council adjourned? 744 01:07:38,860 --> 01:07:45,180 Thank you, and I agree the park does need a new park from my experience up close. 745 01:07:45,820 --> 01:07:51,000 Also, I'm just wondering, there's a lot of hustle, it seems every season for the vendor 746 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,120 spots down there, it being so far away from service seemingly. 747 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,880 I'm just wondering what that will look like, how many vendors, if there's kind of an idea 748 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,860 of what it would look like, world out for the potential vendor hub. 749 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:07,260 Mr. Brighton. 750 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,920 So right now, we have the two vendor locations pulled into the park adjacent to the playground 751 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:13,260 there. 752 01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:19,600 And so we are looking at having two mobile vendor opportunities there as well. 753 01:08:20,340 --> 01:08:29,060 And then there's still some areas closer to the beach to explore other waterfront vendor opportunities there as well. 754 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:33,620 So a blend of food opportunities, as well as whether that be water rentals. 755 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:35,780 I was full. 756 01:08:35,980 --> 01:08:40,860 I'm happy to hear that we're open to that because I've heard some things over the past years. 757 01:08:40,860 --> 01:08:46,780 and I think staff have handled what's gone on down there well, so given us a little more 758 01:08:46,780 --> 01:08:53,280 open opportunity to be able to accept vendors and small businesses on wheels is kind of a 759 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,380 great thing, so thank you. 760 01:09:00,180 --> 01:09:03,340 Council, any other questions? Seeing none, 761 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,980 I'll call the question all those in favour? Those opposed motion carries. Thank you very 762 01:09:07,980 --> 01:09:08,340 much. 763 01:09:16,180 --> 01:09:19,020 We'll move now to the procurement policy update. 764 01:09:19,020 --> 01:09:19,880 I 765 01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:33,030 have a motion, please, Councillor Gareth's, Councillor Monter. 766 01:09:34,090 --> 01:09:35,610 Any questions from Ms. Marshall? 767 01:09:39,460 --> 01:09:41,640 Seeing none, I'll call the question all those in favour? 768 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,500 Those opposed? Motion carried. Thank you for all these updates. These 769 01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:47,180 old pieces is important. Thank you. 770 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,780 Yes, thank you. Your worship. 771 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:55,900 Next one, advisory planning committee, finance committee, terms of reference amendments and meeting 772 01:09:55,900 --> 01:10:00,300 schedule. We're going to deal with the APC first. 773 01:10:00,300 --> 01:10:03,460 Can I have a motion please? Councilor Guy, Councilor Durning, 774 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:11,400 any questions for Miss Wood or Miss Isles? 775 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:18,380 Seeing none, call the question holes in favor. Those opposed? Motion is carried. And now we'll do 776 01:10:18,380 --> 01:10:23,680 us the finance committee terms of reference. Anything from those of us sitting on the finance committee? Any? 777 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:32,060 Councilor Guy, Councilor Durning, any no questions for Miss Wood? All in favor? 778 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:38,940 Those opposed? Seeing none, motion is carried. We'll move now to Fees and Charges Park 779 01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:49,240 Services, Bila 6062. Amendments to Fees and Charges of Bila 3909. Welcome, Ms. Walker. 780 01:10:50,780 --> 01:10:51,800 Council, any questions? 781 01:10:55,050 --> 01:10:59,530 Seeing none, I'll call for a motion. Councilor Guy, Councilor 782 01:10:59,530 --> 01:10:59,730 Fair, 783 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,820 any questions from Ms. Walker saying none, all those in favor? 784 01:11:09,550 --> 01:11:11,150 Councillor Gidey, do you have a question before we? 785 01:11:11,810 --> 01:11:12,810 Councillor Gidey? 786 01:11:13,210 --> 01:11:14,410 Sorry, Councillor Gidey. 787 01:11:15,410 --> 01:11:15,990 I missed your light. 788 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,300 Yeah, firstly, good work. 789 01:11:23,740 --> 01:11:29,920 Impressed with the effort and the thought that's gone into this and I really like the adjustments. 790 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,380 I know we passed the motion in June, I think, 791 01:11:33,380 --> 01:11:43,480 to on the fee structures, but there's other things in there now too, and there's several 792 01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:50,360 new concepts here sort of at another level of granularity that I really like and for 793 01:11:51,460 --> 01:11:56,340 example these promotional pieces that I think are going to be great right out of the gate. 794 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,860 And I read through it on the weekend and I originally had lots of questions, but it managed 795 01:12:02,860 --> 01:12:08,880 answer most of them myself, but I do have a couple that are three or four maybe that remain. 796 01:12:11,060 --> 01:12:17,900 So if you don't mind, I'll just flip through my hard copy and ask you the odd question. 797 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:35,240 The firstly, just for clarification, we originally were going to do a 4% facility fee enhancement 798 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:47,600 or facility enhancement fee for non-residents and you're recommending we change it to just to clarify that's starting in 2027 or only for 2027. 799 01:12:49,520 --> 01:13:02,140 And the reason I ask that is because looking at call that various tables, there's an inconsistency, sometimes that the fee is removed in the 2027 column, the 28 column, and sometimes there is still one. 800 01:13:02,140 --> 01:13:06,940 There's still a 4% facility fee in some of those columns for some of those categories 801 01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:09,140 Walker 802 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,420 You worship so the intention is to remove it as of 803 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,600 For 2027 onwards 804 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,000 So we will 805 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:22,540 Before the finalized copy comes we'll go through it a bit more to make sure it is all removed for 2027 onwards 806 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:29,740 It's not it being removed until 2027 because we have some groups that have already paid for this year and have already signed contracts 807 01:13:29,740 --> 01:13:32,620 So we're working on it for a 227 forwards. 808 01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:35,550 Okay, thanks. 809 01:13:37,050 --> 01:13:39,730 That's a good, good idea, good answer. 810 01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:48,610 On your idea to add a rental fee for the concourse in Caltaire, 811 01:13:48,830 --> 01:13:55,190 play south, is this a common thing to do? 812 01:13:55,370 --> 01:13:59,270 Do other communities do this in their arenas? 813 01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:08,050 So it's common for the whole facility to have a fee, so right now our facility fee is 814 01:14:08,050 --> 01:14:13,310 only an arena rental fee, it doesn't really encompass the whole facility, and because 815 01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:18,090 CalTire plays south, differs than CalTire plays north, and there is differing requirements 816 01:14:18,090 --> 01:14:23,070 in that facility for rentals, we're adding it in for people that want exclusive use that 817 01:14:23,070 --> 01:14:25,870 are then closing it to other users like the walkers. 818 01:14:25,870 --> 01:14:31,590 So, if someone cannot use the concourse how it would normally be used during an ice rental, 819 01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:35,210 they would then be required to use the concourse as well. 820 01:14:35,590 --> 01:14:40,090 Right, and other communities do this, and our pricing would be consistent with what other communities charge. 821 01:14:41,290 --> 01:14:46,070 Yeah, so other communities do use a whole facility fee for the cost. 822 01:14:46,330 --> 01:14:50,970 It is in line with our subsidy recovery of 65%. 823 01:14:50,970 --> 01:14:57,090 Okay. I had a question about the... 824 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:24,200 All rights. There's no, I didn't see any rationale. You've said that it would be $50 an hour for custom branded displays in $100 an hour, where they feature third party advertising. What are those numbers come from? What's the rationale for picking those particular numbers? 825 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:34,460 First, it's too sure that we can retain some advertising up there. 826 01:15:35,820 --> 01:15:39,900 Currently, anyone that wants to use that for, they can use a city branded scoreboard and 827 01:15:39,900 --> 01:15:43,200 all of our city advertising at no cost to their rental. 828 01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:48,300 If they want to brand it so that it takes away from some of our advertising, there's a minimal 829 01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:50,020 cost of $50 an hour. 830 01:15:50,020 --> 01:15:58,380 And then if they're selling advertising on top of that, it does double their costs of rental as that's consistent with our commercial rates and our 831 01:15:58,380 --> 01:16:04,120 Because at that point it becomes a commercial cost if they're selling advertising to for the scoreboard 832 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:06,140 Okay 833 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,960 On the list of community organizations and recreation 834 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,980 It's on page nine if the 835 01:16:14,740 --> 01:16:20,120 package of the memo. There's a whole long list of different sports groups there. 836 01:16:22,620 --> 01:16:26,280 It's not a complete list of all the sporting organizations in town, though. 837 01:16:28,740 --> 01:16:38,580 For example, there's rugby, people play rugby in town and they travel around 838 01:16:38,580 --> 01:16:41,760 different places. I don't know if they have an organization or not, maybe they 839 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:46,240 don't. And the same with cricket. I see we're going to charge a new fee for using the cricket 840 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:53,720 pitch, but they're part of a league as well. So would they just apply to become listed 841 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:59,380 on your list? Like with this walker? There's big advantage to being on the list, obviously, 842 01:16:59,540 --> 01:17:05,040 right? So that used to be called our minor sports organization. We have changed the title to 843 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:11,460 be kind of more in line with it being a partnership for between us and these organizations. So one 844 01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:17,800 One of the main factors for becoming that organization and being part of that list is 845 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,900 being part of either a provincial sport organization or a national sport organization. 846 01:17:22,700 --> 01:17:28,800 And any group that has, as part of that, is welcome to apply and we have a process in 847 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:29,120 place. 848 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,660 Those organizations that you mentioned have not approached us to apply at this time. 849 01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:40,820 And the only new organizations on that list are Skye Volleyball as well as Okinaw and Indian 850 01:17:40,820 --> 01:17:42,560 The other ones were all there. 851 01:17:44,860 --> 01:17:45,020 Okay. 852 01:17:46,540 --> 01:17:51,160 On the, the Vernon resident program on page 12. 853 01:17:52,460 --> 01:17:57,680 The tables, table one, table two, a, table two, b. 854 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:06,700 In the title of those tables, it says single use, single use rates. 855 01:18:06,700 --> 01:18:09,660 They're single, the title is single visit. 856 01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:15,720 But then there's, I just want to be clear on the terminology. 857 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,140 We used to call that drop-in. 858 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,640 But the word drop-in is gone now. 859 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:25,860 So it's single visit, and it applies to not only the single use, 860 01:18:26,380 --> 01:18:32,240 the single day use, but the 10th pass and the monthly and the annual 861 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:37,300 memberships, just to be clear that those are still referred to as single visits. 862 01:18:38,020 --> 01:18:40,360 Am I right here on the understanding terminology? 863 01:18:40,820 --> 01:18:40,880 Yeah. 864 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:46,120 Like a, as opposed to a program where you go every Thursday or something like that. 865 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:47,800 Is that what single visit means? 866 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:49,420 He's in all of it. 867 01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:52,560 Yeah, yes, that is the intent. 868 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,160 It's a single, because we also offer drop-in sports and drop-in programs. 869 01:18:56,180 --> 01:19:01,000 We wanted to differentiate between what's a drop-in facility use versus a drop-in program use. 870 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,460 So we went to single, single visits. 871 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:04,680 Okay. 872 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:11,160 On under fee regulations, 0.7 873 01:19:12,700 --> 01:19:16,180 refers to events that require a special event permit 874 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,720 and a $100 application fee 875 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,780 before the permit is reviewed. 876 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,140 And then it says if the event goes forward, 877 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:25,700 it's gonna be applied to the deposit. 878 01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:28,380 What if it doesn't go forward? 879 01:19:28,380 --> 01:19:33,860 There's nothing that says what happens to that $100 if it doesn't go forward, if the event doesn't go forward. 880 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:35,500 Just to walk her. 881 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:43,140 Your worship, so the intent is that if it doesn't go forward, then that would, the application fee is not returned. 882 01:19:44,460 --> 01:19:55,980 A lot of staff time goes into those event applications and we want to make sure that when people are applying they understand what they're applying for and we can help them through that process. 883 01:19:55,980 --> 01:19:56,080 Yes. 884 01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:57,340 Okay. 885 01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:57,680 Thanks. 886 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:01,640 We have one last quick, super quick thing on page 45, it's table 22. 887 01:20:03,620 --> 01:20:07,780 Under community use, this is for the ALC, this is for track rental. 888 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:14,840 The three categories are adult youth and minor that we don't use the term minor anywhere else. 889 01:20:14,860 --> 01:20:16,860 It's called preschool in the definitions. 890 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,180 This walker. 891 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,400 Good catch. 892 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:28,400 We will update that to say CORE, so that is a minor UCDR CORE group, so we will update that to say CORE. 893 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,020 Thank you, thanks for catching that. 894 01:20:32,660 --> 01:20:35,820 Thank you, now it's your guide for Leukeannis, so careful and much appreciated. 895 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,420 Mr. Wood, we have one of the minor adjustments, Mr. Wood. 896 01:20:40,940 --> 01:20:51,760 Thank you, Worship, just to clarify with Ms. Walker, all 4% facility enhancements fee should be removed from 2027 and 2028, is that correct? 897 01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:59,880 That's correct. On the new fees though for 2026 of the ALC, the 4% doesn't apply. It's only 898 01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:08,480 on current fees for the rest of the year. For 2027 and 2028. 2026 is only on current fees 899 01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:14,920 so the ALC won't see that 4%. Everything else as of January 1, 2027 won't be 2%. 900 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:24,800 Thank you. So if it's okay with Councillor Guy and Councillor Fair who made move the motion, 901 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:35,360 if we could do third as amended to remove all 4% facility fees from 2027 and 2028 and 902 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:42,060 to update minor to preschool throughout the documentation document, then we will be able 903 01:21:42,060 --> 01:21:44,260 to give it third reading. 904 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,380 It's an update minor to court. 905 01:21:47,860 --> 01:21:48,620 To court, court. 906 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:49,760 Got it, thank you. 907 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:52,620 That allows us to approve it, 908 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,040 because there's some minor adjustments you made. 909 01:21:56,260 --> 01:21:56,700 It's okay. 910 01:21:57,580 --> 01:21:58,940 Move it in seconded area, fine. 911 01:22:00,300 --> 01:22:01,680 We've got a minor and you go on 912 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,180 and make a motion on the amendment 913 01:22:03,180 --> 01:22:05,180 and then a motion or just take the all motion. 914 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:07,000 Okay. 915 01:22:08,540 --> 01:22:09,700 We have to be okay. 916 01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:10,280 We're good. 917 01:22:10,860 --> 01:22:19,920 All right, allow me then to call the question, all those in favor, those opposed, motion carried, that says, permitted. 918 01:22:21,020 --> 01:22:21,480 Thank you. 919 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,300 Thank you, Ms. Walker, and thanks for dealing with the right to tell it on the details. 920 01:22:26,500 --> 01:22:35,240 This has been a long discussion and probably much longer for you than it is for us, but I appreciate your comprehension of the details, much appreciated. 921 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:39,820 it. Always said too much of your life on these fees and 922 01:22:39,820 --> 01:22:42,140 judges. Thank you so much. 923 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,140 All right, next item is the zoning 924 01:22:48,140 --> 01:22:56,420 text amendment for CMU and zone, amended by law 6091. Secondary 925 01:22:56,420 --> 01:22:56,940 Councilor Mund, 926 01:22:59,250 --> 01:23:03,330 any questions from Ms. Campbell? Councilor Cutte? 927 01:23:03,810 --> 01:23:06,110 One, thanks, Mr. Mayor. Just one thing to clarify my 928 01:23:06,110 --> 01:23:11,190 understanding of the memo, I'm fine, I'm fine with changing the viola as recommended, 929 01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:17,610 but just to clarify, because of the provincial moratorium that exists for the next six years 930 01:23:17,610 --> 01:23:23,310 or whatever, it's a 2032, none of them are going to be added. No liquor stores will be added 931 01:23:23,310 --> 01:23:28,490 to that zone in the next six or seven years. Correct. You would have to relocate an existing 932 01:23:28,490 --> 01:23:33,550 approved license within BC. Okay, but it just allows us to do that. Okay. 933 01:23:33,550 --> 01:23:37,350 Okay, allows us to do that into that zone. 934 01:23:37,690 --> 01:23:37,710 Yeah. 935 01:23:38,190 --> 01:23:41,490 You can also do other zones, but you can bring one from somewhere else. 936 01:23:41,690 --> 01:23:41,710 Yeah. 937 01:23:42,670 --> 01:23:43,110 Yeah. 938 01:23:45,780 --> 01:23:45,900 Good. 939 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,900 Miss Campbell put up with a lot of my new sense of questions at APC. 940 01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:50,940 So I appreciate that. 941 01:23:51,340 --> 01:23:54,540 We had a very deep dive into this during APC. 942 01:23:55,940 --> 01:23:56,380 Council. 943 01:23:57,260 --> 01:23:58,140 Call the question. 944 01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:58,840 All those in favor? 945 01:23:59,440 --> 01:23:59,840 Those opposed? 946 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:00,560 Motion carried. 947 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:01,380 Thank you, Miss Campbell. 948 01:24:04,230 --> 01:24:04,650 Next item. 949 01:24:04,650 --> 01:24:09,850 and permissive tax by law number 6089, can I have a motion, please? 950 01:24:10,150 --> 01:24:10,670 Councilor Mund, 951 01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:14,820 Councilor Dury. 952 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,300 Thank you, sorry, there's only looking one way at once. 953 01:24:18,980 --> 01:24:19,900 I wouldn't pass kindergarten. 954 01:24:24,090 --> 01:24:25,770 Any questions from Ms. Crossin? 955 01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:30,450 Seeing none, call the questionals in favor. 956 01:24:30,770 --> 01:24:32,930 The supposed motion is carried. 957 01:24:33,370 --> 01:24:34,070 Thank you, Ms. Crossin. 958 01:24:34,770 --> 01:24:38,970 And thank you to the Finance Committee who's been looking at this in significant detail. 959 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:48,700 That's Councillor Yaris. Any questions for staff? 960 01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,680 Seeing none, all those in favor? Those 961 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:57,860 opposed? Motion carried. 962 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,220 Any questions, comments? 963 01:25:09,670 --> 01:25:11,050 I'll call the question. All those in favor? 964 01:25:11,570 --> 01:25:12,690 All those opposed? Motion carried. 965 01:25:16,220 --> 01:25:19,460 That one we need to pause if we do that. It's a very significant 966 01:25:19,460 --> 01:25:24,420 one. We're creating a village center here. We've got a motion counter running. We've got a second 967 01:25:24,420 --> 01:25:25,480 Councillor Gai, 968 01:25:28,060 --> 01:25:30,300 this would be a significant thing if it goes ahead. 969 01:25:32,350 --> 01:25:33,330 All in favour? 970 01:25:34,410 --> 01:25:36,930 Those opposed? Seeing none, motion carried. 971 01:25:41,740 --> 01:25:44,320 Any comments on the landscape regulation 972 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:44,700 update? 973 01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:51,140 Seeing none, call the question, those in favour? Those opposed? Motion carried. 974 01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,200 Let me get that. Councillor Ferrer. 975 01:26:00,660 --> 01:26:05,100 I'm going to declare a conflict of interest as BC housing owns that property and turning 976 01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:07,180 points is contracted, and I work for ten points. 977 01:26:07,740 --> 01:26:08,800 Thank you, Councillor Ferrer. 978 01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:15,340 Never. 979 01:26:17,140 --> 01:26:22,240 Miss Wood is too sharp for that. And as have the ones before, Miss Wood, 980 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:25,180 confidence 981 01:26:25,180 --> 01:26:26,580 staff is always a good thing. 982 01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:32,770 Council, do I have a motion? Councilor Munn, Councillor 983 01:26:32,770 --> 01:26:39,070 Yarris, do I have any questions on this holiday agreement? Seeing none, call the question, 984 01:26:39,070 --> 01:26:39,810 All those in favor? 985 01:26:40,010 --> 01:26:40,410 Those opposed? 986 01:26:40,670 --> 01:26:41,370 Motion carried. 987 01:26:42,110 --> 01:26:43,450 Do you want to grab Mr. Counselor? 988 01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:45,050 Mr. Counselor here? 989 01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:46,050 What? 990 01:26:46,590 --> 01:26:47,450 Maybe Mr. Raul. 991 01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:54,550 I know. 992 01:26:54,650 --> 01:26:55,570 I forgot to do something. 993 01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:35,120 All right. 994 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,800 We'll move now to Council 995 01:27:39,850 --> 01:27:40,390 updates. 996 01:27:46,620 --> 01:27:48,880 I need to start on my immediate right. 997 01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:51,880 And 998 01:27:55,300 --> 01:27:59,320 all of us have done a probably a few things since the 20th of July. 999 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:17,350 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So I had the honor of being the acting mayor for the last part of July. 1000 01:28:18,150 --> 01:28:24,390 And I did want to thank our community for all their support during that time, during 1001 01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:30,290 extreme drought and their cooperation. It's just absolutely been phenomenal, especially 1002 01:28:30,290 --> 01:28:35,310 it's been a dire for so many and I just want to say thank you to the public for that. 1003 01:28:36,530 --> 01:28:42,170 I was very proud to be able to be the acting mayor for the connection of the reclaimed water 1004 01:28:42,170 --> 01:28:51,990 initiative initiated I think primarily by the city and was very happy to see that and see that 1005 01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:59,430 active as of today that water distribution. So a real win for the citizens and a real win for us 1006 01:28:59,430 --> 01:29:08,650 as the city of running. Also several of us were on site for the wildfire 1007 01:29:08,650 --> 01:29:15,490 evening of the wildfire and I got to tell you it was impactful. I think that's 1008 01:29:15,490 --> 01:29:20,790 the only word I have for it. Something I won't soon forget and my heart is the 1009 01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:25,550 mayor says it also goes out to those people and seeing that that night was 1010 01:29:25,550 --> 01:29:34,850 pretty horrendous and was something I've been watching kind of roll out to today even so the 1011 01:29:34,850 --> 01:29:42,390 need is still there so we need to keep keeping supportive of that. I've also attended several 1012 01:29:44,090 --> 01:29:50,630 events business after five. I was able to attend the Clona Airport Advisory Meeting for 1013 01:29:50,630 --> 01:29:54,930 Councillor Monde and I never have been to that and I understand that grab one of the reasons 1014 01:29:54,930 --> 01:29:56,590 we moved here was for. 1015 01:30:00,580 --> 01:30:10,160 How much I didn't know about the airport and the impact on the entire region. So thank you, Councilor Munn, for giving me that opportunity, and that's all I'm going to report on today. 1016 01:30:15,940 --> 01:30:34,760 Councillor Verne. Yeah, last week I attended two different overdose awareness events for overdose awareness day and burning. Prior to that, I attended the City of Vernon Finance Committee, Climate Action Committee, and the Youth Climate Course YCC Showcase over at the library. 1017 01:30:36,420 --> 01:30:41,420 also completed the city's annual respectful workplace training, 1018 01:30:42,980 --> 01:30:46,720 invited to be a guest speaker over the National Cadet Advisory Council, 1019 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:52,860 which was great. I attended two art exhibits, one put on by Archway Society for Domestic Peace, 1020 01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,780 and the other for by the Canadian Mental Health Association. 1021 01:30:56,820 --> 01:31:00,800 And as Councillor Dernie said, I spent some time with her volunteering 1022 01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:07,200 hearing for that open organ Indian Vence emergency reception center at the the night of the fire and 1023 01:31:07,660 --> 01:31:10,080 Yeah, it was definitely a very song we're experience 1024 01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:17,900 Just to see the the trauma in real time and just my hats off to okay at the council and the fire department and everyone else 1025 01:31:17,900 --> 01:31:19,760 That was so instrumental in responding 1026 01:31:25,170 --> 01:31:31,250 Count you guys. Thanks, was mayor going back all the way to July 22nd. It was an already an all meeting on 1027 01:31:31,250 --> 01:31:42,390 on the 29th GVAC held a special meeting relating to the 2026 drought and also relating to some proposed new wells in the Cold Stream Valley aquifer. 1028 01:31:45,370 --> 01:31:53,450 Being a special meeting, it conflicted with another meeting of mine, the Climate Action Advisory Committee, so thanks to Councillor Faire for stepping in for me on that one. 1029 01:31:53,450 --> 01:32:02,050 On August the 5th, I went down to an official opening, ribbon cutting for a segment of 1030 01:32:02,050 --> 01:32:08,230 the rail trail running from North Kelowna, from the airport right up through into Lake 1031 01:32:08,230 --> 01:32:08,530 Country. 1032 01:32:08,670 --> 01:32:13,970 So there's only one tiny piece of the rail trail left to complete, and that's going to happen 1033 01:32:13,970 --> 01:32:14,450 pretty soon. 1034 01:32:14,990 --> 01:32:22,210 And then on the 2nd of September, the collaborative leadership table, which we're part of, this 1035 01:32:22,210 --> 01:32:26,150 this organization of mayors and chiefs up and down the valley. 1036 01:32:26,810 --> 01:32:31,170 There's a couple of committees that that group has, governance committee being one of them, 1037 01:32:31,250 --> 01:32:35,430 and I'm chairing that governance committee, so we had a meeting on the 2nd of September. 1038 01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:41,310 Councillor Gears. 1039 01:32:42,170 --> 01:32:43,290 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1040 01:32:43,590 --> 01:32:53,050 So I attended to Chamber meetings for their advocacy committee for both July and for August. 1041 01:32:53,050 --> 01:33:00,010 I also had several meetings with the Okanagan Regional Library for discussing obviously 1042 01:33:00,010 --> 01:33:06,490 the provincial funding, and I have good news to report, due to all the advocacy efforts 1043 01:33:06,490 --> 01:33:12,590 that we put forward, our funding has been restored for the Okanagan Regional Library. 1044 01:33:13,610 --> 01:33:19,470 So I think that's a good win considering that obviously they heard us loud and clear, 1045 01:33:19,470 --> 01:33:30,090 and we're back where we were, so whatever happens moving forward, that's obviously going to be for the next board to decide, but it's a good way to kind of finish this board term. 1046 01:33:30,990 --> 01:33:31,490 That's it. 1047 01:33:35,230 --> 01:33:35,990 Councillor Munn. 1048 01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:36,850 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1049 01:33:37,830 --> 01:33:39,150 Again, we'll just touch on the wildfire. 1050 01:33:39,430 --> 01:33:42,930 I just want to thank all the staff opening up the emergency center. 1051 01:33:43,790 --> 01:33:51,070 It was, as Kelly had said, it was quite eye-opening to watch the goings on that night. 1052 01:33:52,390 --> 01:34:21,050 Also to you Mr. Mayor for coming back off your vacation off the island coming back and dealing with situation I commend you for that it's not not easy when you have to deal with the general public when they have no idea what it takes to keep everybody save it it was emergency services did a fine job I ran to RCMP officers at the roadblocks doing a fine job everybody came together there's only so much you 1053 01:34:21,050 --> 01:34:27,610 you can do and I think kudos to everybody who's involved and especially your staff, I went 1054 01:34:27,610 --> 01:34:32,890 over from Elk's Lodge over to Cal Tire Place and they were flying, they had it up, all 1055 01:34:32,890 --> 01:34:39,050 the volunteers were in place so it was well done. So, congratulations to everybody and again, 1056 01:34:39,190 --> 01:34:42,270 my heart's go out to all those people who lost their homes out there. 1057 01:34:47,540 --> 01:34:48,060 Councillor Garene. 1058 01:34:48,780 --> 01:34:55,120 Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Can I just ask a question of Councillor Garene's, did other libraries 1059 01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,840 get their funding restored or just just just just ours the list was long of the 1060 01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:04,940 fund of the libraries. Yeah it was it was called major libraries when they 1061 01:35:04,940 --> 01:35:07,160 announced it and we were considered a major library. 1062 01:35:12,430 --> 01:35:13,670 Okay well that's straight 1063 01:35:13,670 --> 01:35:18,810 work well then and then the other thing I forgot to mention is I I'm acting 1064 01:35:18,810 --> 01:35:22,110 mayor next month in October but I'm going to be out of town from the 19th of the 1065 01:35:22,110 --> 01:35:28,470 31st so I need a sub for that period as acting mayor and my friend Teresa has 1066 01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:33,950 kindly offered to do that for me. So I think we need a motion to make that official. 1067 01:35:36,420 --> 01:35:42,920 Okay, seconded council guy, all in favour? Motion is carried. 1068 01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,120 Okay, yeah, journey's 1069 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,820 that you did. Oh, good. Thank you for that. 1070 01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:04,960 All right, mayor's report in for like 20th of July 1071 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:14,520 seems a long time ago. So that week I spent a couple of times with creative and water staff 1072 01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:20,620 talking to agricultural operators. One night we were in cold stream hall and we had 1073 01:36:20,620 --> 01:36:22,960 at 95 ag operators. 1074 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:28,580 This is the discussing the impacts of state's rewater restrictions. 1075 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:34,320 And I had discussions that next few days fairly extensively 1076 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:39,360 with some individual ag operators in the city of Vernon. 1077 01:36:40,140 --> 01:36:42,340 And that was the beginning of discussions 1078 01:36:42,340 --> 01:36:44,900 of what we could do with treated wastewater. 1079 01:36:45,700 --> 01:36:47,360 I know that our staff became involved. 1080 01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:55,720 I know that it involved a number of discussions in late July, and then I went on my holidays. 1081 01:36:56,440 --> 01:37:04,200 I too attended the rail trail completion because I was around, like Councillor Monde, when those first decisions were made to create the rail trail. 1082 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:10,880 And it was really neat to see the rail trail completed through the late country. 1083 01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:13,760 And that will have a substantial impact on the city of Vernon. 1084 01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:18,100 And that one just be very, very important, of course, already, you know. 1085 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:23,820 And as Councillor Monde indicated, I had had a four-week holiday plan that after a week 1086 01:37:23,820 --> 01:37:29,520 I was back because of the fires, and I do appreciate the emergency operations people and people 1087 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:36,920 who had dropped it, everything, and filed into our EOC and our ESS on Saturday, close to 1088 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:42,780 the August long weekend, and just quite amazing to see the work that was done. 1089 01:37:42,780 --> 01:37:51,240 So thank you for everybody who did the emergency support services and also our emergency operations center, so much appreciated. 1090 01:37:51,660 --> 01:38:11,840 I'm looking over to Mr. Poole, obviously those on Saturday afternoon, Saturday morning, suddenly realizing that we were going to be in something very significant and did the precautionary thing, which was to get our ESS organized in case it was called and was in a few hours it was called. 1091 01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,920 So much appreciated for that. 1092 01:38:15,420 --> 01:38:19,640 When I, as people will know, I was here most days 1093 01:38:20,700 --> 01:38:25,960 with providing updates, connecting with the OC and our ESS 1094 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,520 and then talk to our regular basis with Chief Wilson 1095 01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,820 for those who don't know. 1096 01:38:32,180 --> 01:38:36,340 Chief Wilson did call me just in that late afternoon 1097 01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,400 and he was in his truck and he was leaving the reserve 1098 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:47,000 and he was calling a computer evacuation and I pushed him through to Kevin Poole and 1099 01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:51,040 then he phoned me once he got to West Kelowna on the Saturday night. 1100 01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:55,600 So he and I have spoke many, many times since then. 1101 01:38:56,180 --> 01:39:00,360 We've had contact with each other every few days and getting updates. 1102 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,640 I want to thank his staff who got caught in the center. 1103 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,500 They had fireable fins and their EOC was then trapped. 1104 01:39:08,500 --> 01:39:17,340 So I want to really give my heart's glow to Colleen Martian and the whole AOC over in IR-1. 1105 01:39:18,460 --> 01:39:21,640 So after that we'll sort of tone down a little bit. 1106 01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:29,260 I did attend on the 25th August 25th the celebration of the Bill's Place expansion launch 1107 01:39:29,260 --> 01:39:35,600 with my with with misheard and that was a really exciting thing. 1108 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,660 Great proposed addition to Bill's place. 1109 01:39:40,260 --> 01:39:42,620 How many beds 36 edition? 1110 01:39:43,740 --> 01:39:44,020 36. 1111 01:39:44,460 --> 01:39:51,260 Yes, so just a very, very important time with a substantial seed donation 1112 01:39:51,260 --> 01:39:53,980 from the Ford Family Foundation. 1113 01:39:53,980 --> 01:39:56,100 So do watch that. 1114 01:39:56,140 --> 01:39:59,820 That will be a significant addition to that facility 1115 01:39:59,820 --> 01:40:02,300 and a great thing for greater burden. 1116 01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,220 We then, myself and Mr. 1117 01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:08,280 immediately went to with the GROS, 1118 01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:12,340 went to the ALC construction staff barbecue. 1119 01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,200 Just as a thank you to all the construction staff 1120 01:40:16,740 --> 01:40:19,440 at noon on the 25th, great barbecue, good food 1121 01:40:19,980 --> 01:40:22,980 and also a chance to tour the facility again. 1122 01:40:22,980 --> 01:40:31,160 So that was a worthwhile, and the next day, deep conversations with Minister Neal, with 1123 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:40,100 Minister Popham, with Minister Davidson's office, also Minister Kelly Greene's office, 1124 01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:49,680 all related to trying to get the approval for the use of treated effluent for agriculture. 1125 01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:56,320 culture. So over a three or four or five day process, I think I was in calls with them 1126 01:40:56,320 --> 01:41:03,360 four or five times. I just want to thank Mr. Rice and his staff, Mr. Erd, for quickly 1127 01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:08,540 turning that one around and being absolutely ready, the moment that we were given the 1128 01:41:08,540 --> 01:41:14,880 go ahead and the official piece of paper to allow us to connect those two pipes. So thanks 1129 01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:18,720 for getting it shovel ready and open and parts there 1130 01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:22,020 and the whole system that then rolled very quickly. 1131 01:41:22,380 --> 01:41:23,420 So thank you all. 1132 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:27,080 I also was in meeting with Minister Parmar, 1133 01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,240 for us with Miss Hurd and Chief Wilson 1134 01:41:31,780 --> 01:41:37,160 and Colleen Martian about the North Aberdeen Plateau 1135 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,880 and the response of BC wildfire 1136 01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,740 to both the fires on the west side. 1137 01:41:43,580 --> 01:41:52,700 And then recently I was involved with a meeting with Minister Niel with RD&O regarding possible 1138 01:41:52,700 --> 01:42:01,400 water sources as we go forward with the expected route to last through 2027. 1139 01:42:02,220 --> 01:42:10,560 So long discussion, chaired by Bob Fleming obviously, GVW and myself. 1140 01:42:11,180 --> 01:42:21,860 And then the next day I was again on a call with Minister Neil regarding the Aberdeen Plateau with Chief Wilson and Mayor Ireland. 1141 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:26,920 The three of us are there representing the work being done on the North Aberdeen Plateau. 1142 01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,740 So that is my update. 1143 01:42:37,660 --> 01:42:40,300 Thank you for bearing with me on that. Councillor Gough. 1144 01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:51,040 If I might add a quick comment about water to what you said, it will be a G-VAC tomorrow. 1145 01:42:51,980 --> 01:42:57,900 There's a report in the regular G-VAC meeting about the drought itself and the drought response and the results. 1146 01:42:58,980 --> 01:43:05,900 And it turns out that creative running water ended up managing the situation very well. 1147 01:43:08,500 --> 01:43:16,180 residential use dropped by 60 percent. The target was 50 and overall in the distribution area, 1148 01:43:16,300 --> 01:43:23,140 which is a burning cold stream in most of BNC, usage dropped 60 percent. And then on the 1149 01:43:23,140 --> 01:43:34,960 ag side, the media kept talking about a 70 percent reduction, but in fact the actual use over the 1150 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:45,100 season was down 33% from normal, the difference between what's the allocation and what's actually 1151 01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:52,040 used and people reported that the allocation was reduced by 70 and that may be true, but since most 1152 01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:59,120 farmers only use roughly half of what they're allocated, the actual water use was down 33%. So great 1153 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:04,220 Everyone in water actually did a good job of spreading the pain of the shortage around 1154 01:44:04,220 --> 01:44:08,020 fairly and equally and keeping us out of stage 4. 1155 01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:14,340 Now, as you said, Mr. Mayor, we're still very, very low in terms of reservoirs and 1156 01:44:14,900 --> 01:44:21,120 cowlake and the upper reservoirs, and with the Super El Nino strengthening and coming through 1157 01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:27,420 fall in winter 27, it's more than likely that we're going to see a warm dry winter. 1158 01:44:27,420 --> 01:44:40,760 And so we've really got to take some action to prepare for this, for seeing the same problem dealing with the same problem next year. 1159 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:50,520 And the water utility operators are recommending we stay and are going to recommend tomorrow with you back that we stay in stage three. 1160 01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:51,380 Yes. 1161 01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:55,910 Yes. 1162 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:15,760 Finish that up. There has been some misinformation about water sources that GVW has access to, and I just want to take a moment to correct the record. GVW has access to some, obviously to the 1163 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:17,620 Dutral Plateau and Cal Lake. 1164 01:45:18,220 --> 01:45:20,760 They also have access to some deep water wells 1165 01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:21,900 in the cold stream valley. 1166 01:45:22,900 --> 01:45:27,560 And once they put everyone on stage three, 1167 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,380 they began to use those deep water wells. 1168 01:45:31,380 --> 01:45:33,980 So people are saying, why didn't you drill any wells 1169 01:45:33,980 --> 01:45:34,760 in the cold stream valley? 1170 01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:36,160 Well, the answer is, they already 1171 01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:40,820 was well drilled in the cold stream valley in the 1960s. 1172 01:45:40,860 --> 01:45:42,100 And they were brought on stream. 1173 01:45:42,740 --> 01:45:43,960 They come with them. 1174 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:49,660 they come some difficulties with water chemistry and require some different treatment and different 1175 01:45:49,660 --> 01:45:55,500 management, but if you've been out in Lavington, you will see signs saying you're now on this 1176 01:45:55,500 --> 01:45:59,880 well, you're now, and of course somewhere else you'll find out you're now on this well. So, 1177 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:09,220 great Vernon Water did access all three of their sources, and in 2027, it looks like they'll have 1178 01:46:09,220 --> 01:46:20,220 access token on the lake through the the canoe beach intake pipe. So in 2027 it looks like 1179 01:46:20,220 --> 01:46:25,080 they'll access to four sources. And it's important for the public to know that that 1180 01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:35,200 creative room water applied through with friend to get access token on the lake in 2019. 1181 01:46:36,480 --> 01:46:41,420 and it took six and a half years to get approval from the ministry to move 1182 01:46:41,420 --> 01:46:47,200 water licenses from BX Creek to Okragan Lake. So, when people indicate well why 1183 01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:52,380 didn't you get access to Okragan Lake, the answer is six and a half years ago we 1184 01:46:52,380 --> 01:46:59,560 asked for it and promptly six and a half years later we got it. So, for those who 1185 01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:04,880 feel like it's been a long time, it has been a long time and we looks like by 1186 01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:11,740 27 will access. We also have access to an additional source, and its temporary water sources, Mr. 1187 01:47:11,860 --> 01:47:17,540 Rice, maybe can give us an update, which is our treated effluent. So we'll have access to 1188 01:47:17,540 --> 01:47:23,900 yet another source in 2027 that we historically didn't. So Mr. Rice, is that still a temporary 1189 01:47:23,900 --> 01:47:25,840 permit or where are we at in terms of that? 1190 01:47:26,440 --> 01:47:30,600 Thank you, Your Worship. So the authorization supply reclaimed water into the Goose Lake 1191 01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:36,820 irrigation system was for a one-year period in 2026 and it comes due in December. 1192 01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:43,240 We are making another application shortly to extend that authorization to the end of 1193 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:43,900 next year. 1194 01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:49,760 And then the hope is that should Council approve us proceeding with the amendment to 1195 01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:54,560 the liquid waste management plan next year, it would be built in permanently into that plan 1196 01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:56,760 and we'd have our operating certificate modified. 1197 01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:04,500 So we don't expect that the province will give us a much pushback on the extension of the authorization. 1198 01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,180 Obviously, it's really important. So that's currently where we're sitting right now. 1199 01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:14,940 So I think it's just really important for people to understand that the Great Vroom Water has been at this for a long time. 1200 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:22,680 And we will have access probably in 2027 if we can probably give this permit to five different sources. 1201 01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:28,760 and so good work is being ahead with the concern of the water in 2027. 1202 01:48:34,670 --> 01:48:40,310 All right, we'll move now to correspondence and I see Councillor Garrison's lights on. 1203 01:48:40,550 --> 01:48:46,710 Councillor Garrison. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I just, I know that I was the one that requested this 1204 01:48:46,710 --> 01:48:51,990 letter to be deferred, but I would like to defer it again to the September 28th meeting. 1205 01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:59,530 And the reason why I am recommending the deferral is I had met with the DVA, and I'm doing 1206 01:48:59,530 --> 01:49:02,610 this on behalf of Council Requiring because, of course, he's not here today. 1207 01:49:04,010 --> 01:49:10,770 Part of the discussion that we had, although it was quite a limited discussion, the comment 1208 01:49:10,770 --> 01:49:16,530 that you had made with regards to their funding and whether or not they would be doing matching, 1209 01:49:17,550 --> 01:49:21,730 They would like to be able to take that to the board and they're having a board meeting 1210 01:49:21,730 --> 01:49:29,070 on September 15th, so just after this one. So if Council is okay, if we re-defer this 1211 01:49:29,070 --> 01:49:34,710 back to the September 28th and then we would have an update from the DVA through Council 1212 01:49:34,710 --> 01:49:38,390 acquiring as he is there liaison to that information. 1213 01:49:39,170 --> 01:49:40,770 Okay, move to from, 1214 01:49:43,460 --> 01:49:46,080 all in favor, motion carried. 1215 01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:48,760 Okay, good, thank you. 1216 01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:56,880 All right, looking at this rather correspondence, I'd like to move that we do a letter of support 1217 01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:06,400 to Science Center, answer a guy, any comments, all in favor, motion carried. 1218 01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:13,180 There's minutes that are here just making you aware and seeing there's no further 1219 01:50:13,180 --> 01:50:16,400 business. I will, as you're in the meeting. 1220 01:50:20,440 --> 01:50:21,900 Literally, you'll shut her down. 1221 01:50:21,900 --> 01:50:22,400 Thank 1222 01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:31,600 you very much.