[0:14] I'd like to call the meeting to order
will the clerk please read the statement
[0:21] Monday May 14 2018 adequate notice of
this meeting has been published in the
[0:26] paper and on January 15 and if everyone
could please remain standing if we could
[1:06] have a moment of silence for Tony
Alexander 17-year DPW employee
[1:22] thank you
[1:25] [Music]
[1:30] first up this evening we have a
proclamation for Public Works week would
[1:39] mr. Babcock please step forward with any
of the members of the DPW and mayor
[1:46] short way will read the proclamation
[1:52] [Music]
these guys in women do an excellent job
[1:58] for our town in the service and we all
know and John you know to when those
[2:03] those snowflakes fall how much we
appreciate this town of the service
[2:10] whereas Public Works services provide in
our community Farnum to an integral part
[2:16] of our citizens everyday lives and
whereas this port of an understanding
[2:20] and informed citizenry is vital to the
efficient operation of Public Works
[2:25] systems and programs such as streets and
roadways parks ORS recycling and public
[2:31] facilities and whereas the health safety
and comfort of this community greatly
[2:36] depends on these facilities and services
and whereas the quality and
[2:40] effectiveness of these facilities as
well as their planning design and
[2:44] construction is vitally dependent upon
the efforts and skill of Public Works
[2:49] officials and whereas the efficiency of
the qualified and dedicated personnel
[2:54] whose staff Public Works Department
materially influenced by the people's
[2:58] attitude and endless and understanding
of the importance of the work they
[3:03] perform
now therefore I I reject your way Mary
[3:06] the township of Ernie do hereby proclaim
the week of May 22 May 26 to 18 as
[3:12] National Public Works week in the
township of Vernon and I call upon all
[3:17] citizens and civic organizations to
acquaint themselves with the issues
[3:21] involved in providing our Public Works
and to recognize the contributions which
[3:26] Public Works officials make every day to
a health safety comfort in quality of
[3:32] life thank you so much
[Applause]
[3:47] next we have the buddy poppy resolution
or proclamation will councilmember
[3:52] remember almost please read
sure buddy poppy month may 2018 where is
[3:58] the annual distribution of Buddy poppies
by the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the
[4:03] United States has been officially
recognized and endorsed by governmental
[4:07] leaders since 1922 and whereas buddy
poppies are assembled by disabled
[4:13] veterans and the proceeds of this worthy
fundraising campaign are used
[4:18] exclusively for the benefit of disabled
and needy veterans and the widows and
[4:24] orphans of deceased veterans and whereas
the purpose of the sale of Buddy poppies
[4:30] by the Veterans of Foreign Wars is
eloquently reflected in the desire to
[4:35] honor the dead by helping the living the
2018 buddy poppy drive is being held
[4:41] during the month of May and whereas the
wallkill Valley VFW 8 441 and it's
[4:49] ladies auxilary promote the sale of the
Buddy poppy throughout the township and
[4:55] whereas we urge all patriotic citizens
to wear a Buddy poppy as a symbol of
[5:01] gratitude to the men and women of this
country who have risked their lives in
[5:05] defense of the freedoms which we
continue to enjoy as American citizens
[5:09] now when there are now and therefore
council I council president Jean Murphy
[5:16] our councilmember Jean Arthur may a
short way and the vernon township
[5:20] council do hereby proclaim that may 2018
is buddy poppy month in vernon township
[5:27] we hereby urge the citizens of this
community to recognize the merits of
[5:32] this cause by contributing generously to
the invaluable program given under my
[5:38] hand in these three united states and
the township of vernon state of new
[5:42] jersey on this 14th day of May 2018
and to which I've caused the Sela
[5:47] Township burnin to be affixed and have
made this proclamation public very short
[5:52] way Mayor Jean Murphy council president
next I have the Memorial Day
[5:58] proclamation whereas Memorial Day
originally called decoration day is a
[6:04] day of remembrance for those who have
died in service of the United States of
[6:07] America and whereas while it's difficult
to prove conclusively the origins of
[6:12] Memorial Day president lyndon b johnson
johnson in May 1966 proclaimed at
[6:18] Waterloo New York was officially the
birthplace of Memorial Day and whereas
[6:23] regardless of the exact date or location
of its origins one thing is clear
[6:28] Memorial Day was born out of the Civil
War and a desire to honor our dead it
[6:33] was officially proclaimed on Matan the
5th of May 1868 by General John Logan
[6:39] national commander of the Grand Army of
the Republic in his general order number
[6:44] 11 the 30th of May 1868 is designated
for the purpose of strewing with flowers
[6:50] or otherwise decorating the graves of
comrades who died in defense of their
[6:54] country during the late rebellion and
whose bodies now lie in almost every
[6:58] city village and hamlet churchyard in
the land he proclaimed and whereas on
[7:04] the first decoration day at Arlington
National Cemetery 5,000 participants
[7:08] decorated the graves of the 20,000 Union
and Confederate soldiers buried there
[7:14] and whereas after World War one the
holiday change from honoring just those
[7:18] who died fighting in the Civil War to
honoring Americans who died fighting in
[7:22] any war and whereas it is now observed
in almost every state on the last Monday
[7:28] in May with congressional passage of the
national holiday Act of 1971
[7:33] now therefore I council president gene
Murphy mayor short way and the Vernon
[7:37] Township council do hereby honor our
servicemen and women from every branch
[7:41] of the service who have served in all
the nation's Wars for their enduring
[7:45] dedication to the preservation of
America and our way of life given under
[7:50] my hand in these pre United States in
the township of Erne state of New Jersey
[7:54] on this 14th day of May
today the 13th
[8:00] 2018 and to which I have caused the seal
of the township of Vernon to be affixed
[8:05] and have made this Proclamation public
Harry J short way mayor Jean Murphy
[8:10] council president next we move on to
public comment please note public
[8:20] comment limited to three minutes per
person on current agenda items only may
[8:25] I have a motion to open the floor to the
public comments may I have a second all
[8:30] in favor
[8:32] is there anyone from the public that
would like to step up seeing no one may
[8:41] have a motion to close to public mr.
Gavin first in a second all in favor any
[8:48] opposed
[8:51] may I have a next we have our minutes
may I have a motion to adopt the
[8:55] following minutes regular meeting
minutes of April 9th 2018 the regular
[9:00] meeting minutes of April 23rd 2018 and
the executive session minutes of April
[9:05] 23rd 2018
[9:09] roll call yes yes yes yes
consent agenda resolution 18 139
[9:24] authorizing issuance of estimated
property tax bills resolution 18 140
[9:29] approving a charitable solicitations
permit for perchick Valley Fire
[9:32] Department for various days throughout
the year resolution 18 141 approving of
[9:37] charitable solicitation permit for VFW
844 one for various days throughout the
[9:43] year resolution 18 142 authorizing the
use of national joint power Alliance
[9:48] cooperative this authorizes the use of
the co-operative for various purchases
[9:53] resolutions 18 143 through 18 150
authorized the purchase of various
[9:59] township vehicles and equipment during
including the animal control van
[10:04] excavator dump truck dump body groomer
mower head and police vehicles
[10:13] resolution 18 151 this resolution
authorizing fireworks to be displayed on
[10:19] June 30th 2018 within the township of
Vernon this authorizes the 23rd annual
[10:24] fireworks display by Highland Lakes and
Vernon fire departments resolution 18
[10:29] 152 the 2018 salaries or non-union
full-time employees the DPW establishes
[10:37] a salary for a new DPW supervisor
resolution 18 153 this resolution
[10:43] accepting the completion of improvements
to Maple Grange Road this accepts the
[10:48] road project from April Grange may I
have a motion to adopt resolutions 18
[10:52] 139 218 153 now I have a second second
roll call yes yes yes but abstain from
[11:07] 140 141 and 151
the president Murphy yes next we have
[11:23] ordinance 1818 an ordinance of the
Township Council of the township of
[11:26] Vernon county of Sussex state in New
Jersey authorizing special assessments
[11:30] for the restoration and repair of Barry
Lakes dam number two at the request of
[11:35] the Association this authorizes the
assessment of Barry Lakes dam may I have
[11:40] a motion to introduce ordinance 1818
with a public hearing to be held on June
[11:44] 11th motion may I have a second second
yes yes yes ordinance 1819 ordinance
[12:07] amending the salary ordinance for
non-union employees this establishes the
[12:10] salary ranges for the various non-union
employees it does not establish salaries
[12:16] I'd actually have a couple comments on
this after reviewing the salary
[12:22] ordinance I just feel that there are
some inconsistencies in it I think I
[12:28] think that there are some positions that
we no longer have that are included in
[12:33] it and I feel that there's some
discrepancies in some of the the ranges
[12:40] that should be looked at in various
positions and it's just you know I know
[12:46] and I'm not sure whether it's the state
that has a list of like where where some
[12:51] of these ranges come from a couple
months ago was after the what was when
[12:56] we were reviewing the budget I did have
a resident asked me and they and I
[13:02] didn't have an answer they asked me they
said with salary ranges they said you
[13:05] establish a range and when the township
reaches that cat that that ceiling you
[13:12] just extended and they said well like
are there any ranges or their caps like
[13:17] how does that work and I said well
usually we just extend it I said I don't
[13:21] I don't know what that answer is
I don't know if you know but
[13:25] I just said that's and I have to say
well that's how it's been done I'm not
[13:29] saying it's wrong you know or right but
I think it's something that you know
[13:34] requires an answer for the public
because they're asking but like I said I
[13:38] think it's um and I'm not saying you
know there could be some Rangers that
[13:42] are low there could be some that are
high but I think you know my personal
[13:46] opinion is I think it's something to be
looked at and there's we have we just
[13:53] find it we have positions there of
recreation aid we don't have a
[13:58] recreation aid I know maybe in the
future we may have one but we don't have
[14:03] one now we don't have a QP a because we
have an outside contractor there's two
[14:10] positions in the Recreation Department
one is Director of Community Affairs and
[14:17] one is recreation supervisor I think we
need to determine what is it we have and
[14:24] remove the other one and fire police I'm
not saying we should or shouldn't have
[14:29] but I don't know that in the last 10
years we've ever had this because that
[14:33] position was only created I think
correct me if I'm wrong Dan I think it
[14:38] was like in 2015 and that budget was
when that was put back in the ordinance
[14:43] but I don't know that we've ever had us
I'm just questioning why we have all
[14:47] this extra in this ordinance that does
make it confusing and then what happens
[14:52] or people look at it and say well we
have that we have that in our ordinance
[14:56] how can we don't have that position so
it's not to me it's not a true
[15:03] reflection of what's really going on you
know in the town and that's out of
[15:10] anybody ailments excuse me I agree that
there's someone here that should be
[15:14] removed but some of these ranges are 50%
so that means that the person could get
[15:21] a 50% raised because we've approved this
well the resolution would have to come
[15:26] back to the council I know but still
it's there and then when that comes back
[15:31] it creates a lot of problems so why even
have it there to begin with a 50% raise
[15:35] I believe that these the higher range
should be included the raises so if
[15:42] somebody's gonna get a 3% raise then the
high end should be three or four or five
[15:46] max but not 50% not 40% range to me
that's a little excessive
[15:54] so this is where checks and balances
come in we set the rate so things can't
[15:58] get out of control and done with the 50%
raise or 30% raise so I believe they
[16:08] need to be looked at and some of these
maxis are to I our goal was to put a
[16:14] plan in place that would help the
council in the next three to four years
[16:19] so you don't have to keep on doing this
some of those positions were left in
[16:23] because someday the council may want to
have those positions or the next mayor
[16:28] may review will be here when I'm done
you'll still be sitting up here and
[16:33] you'll have this history to carry
forward the other issue was to bring
[16:37] people salaries and I'm not saying we're
raising them to the top in line with
[16:42] their local civil service position with
the civil service rates to make it
[16:48] compliant to make it look at if a person
has a higher rating in the next person
[16:54] sometimes three times as high they
should be paid which civil service rates
[16:57] them and I would do it in two steps to
make parity in that and that was the
[17:03] only purpose of doing this if long-range
planning it's not - right away you pass
[17:08] the resolution and raise everything to
the top but to give you room to get the
[17:13] next mayor myself for the remaining 18
or 19 months and I'm here to go forward
[17:17] with this so you don't have to keep on
bringing these audiences in and you
[17:22] still oversee everything you oversee the
budget you question the budget what you
[17:25] should and that is welcomed I mean
that's the process but it just seems to
[17:30] me we're all constantly going back for
doing the salary guide again and here we
[17:36] have is the framework that we need to
work it well we do the salary guide all
[17:40] the time well first of all we're trying
to get it I know because I even asked
[17:44] about trying to get everything under one
roof instead of piecemeal but we seem to
[17:48] be doing it often enough because we keep
raising
[17:52] the ceiling and like I said I'm not
saying that that's it just seems like
[17:56] that's what happens and that's why
taxpayers are asking well when does that
[18:01] stop how does that work when you have a
range you know it's usually within the
[18:05] range and I can't give them an answer
because you know if I look through other
[18:08] towns you know but the other things what
hours does the DPW work 6:30 to three
[18:16] because that you know not begrudging
anybody but I look through a lot of the
[18:21] municipalities and I think it's let's
see it's Jefferson and he'll pack on
[18:27] work 9:00 to 4:30 a lot of the other
municipalities whether it's West Milford
[18:35] Sparta Wantage Newton just look you know
Hardison they work 8:30 to 4:30 so even
[18:46] within these salaries you know it's
there is an extra half hour a day and
[18:52] I'm not saying but you know like I said
it's just this is we are responsible to
[18:57] answer to the taxpayers and these are
things that are being thrown at us and
[19:01] we need to have the answers on some of
that but like I said so even when
[19:04] looking comparing salaries to this it
ends up being you know the DPW doesn't
[19:09] get it paid lunch time so the extra half
hour is an unpaid lunch they're working
[19:13] 8 hours a day and it's good for the town
that they start as early as they do
[19:19] because we actually miss a half hour
that the buses are on the road in the
[19:23] wintertime that we're not yet in in
cases of a problem so we're actually
[19:27] saving money by having guys in earlier
in the morning for I mean I'm just
[19:33] trying to compare you know when when
you're looking at salaries and you're
[19:36] looking at the township and you're
looking at benefits and everything else
[19:38] I'm also looking at the hours worked as
compared with what let's say the DPW is
[19:43] working versus what I'll call it
administration you know the municipal
[19:47] building is open and you know and I know
that there were it's like I said it's
[19:52] just there's questions and and I don't
have the answers to them I'm not saying
[19:56] that anything should be changed but I
think we know it to at least take a
[20:00] better look at this
I'd like to make a motion to table this
[20:04] because I think again these ceilings
perhaps need to be down I would rather
[20:09] see this coming year to year and do it
that way the public knows what the
[20:13] salaries are from every year and how
much the raises are when we do the
[20:17] budget we don't know everybody's raises
in the budget we don't go person by
[20:21] person and say well included in this
budget is this person's you know 3%
[20:26] raise we don't do that so we have no
knowledge the only knowledge we would
[20:30] happen I don't think there's been a 3%
razor that's down in many years
[20:34] well I'd see money been put out there
and when no one ever knows about it
[20:38] because it you can do it so I think but
the other it needs to be tables changed
[20:45] and all these chairs are just certain
ones you can compare we can get you a
[20:50] copy of last year so consolidate like
three or four four years or four years
[20:55] worth of them and it goes out to to
cover everything out to 2023 because we
[21:02] were told that we wanted one
consolidated salary guide hmm and most
[21:07] of the non-union positions are on the
budget worksheets that that are given
[21:11] out to the council on that detail at the
bottom it usually lists all the
[21:15] positions and it shows what's gonna do
in there but it's just they per say but
[21:21] it doesn't say 2% reads but it does
listen right now I was just wondering if
[21:25] the minimum and the maximum we're all
changed or just certain ones were and
[21:30] some of them stayed the same or there
were several I think that were changed
[21:34] and then but they were taken from like
like she said like Elvis had three
[21:38] different ordinances and put together
which it should be all on one document
[21:42] because you don't have to keep looking
back and forth as what was happening if
[21:46] we would have like a part-time seasonal
DPW worker recycling and they weren't on
[21:52] the salary ordinance so now we have to
do an ordinance to get a range before we
[21:58] can hire them it has to go through two
meetings because you have the first you
[22:03] know the introduction on loitering and
then you have to wait another meeting to
[22:06] actually do the resolution or
the twenty days and then do another
[22:09] meeting to give them I'm not opposed to
have that I really think it's a ideas
[22:15] better it's a better way of having to
make sure it's all on one document but
[22:19] like I said it's it's just we seem to be
doing it every year for one reason or
[22:23] another and I I just feel that this
should really be taking a look at and I
[22:27] you know I mean there's some I think or
hi-oh agree some I think might be low
[22:31] looking after positions don't forget it
there it can be given out can only be
[22:37] given out with I understand that don't
you understand that and I'll just say
[22:41] the one reason to have the ranges is no
I'm just is when when we're hiring
[22:45] because I remember when going back and
hiring our clerk we had a resolution or
[22:52] we had an ordinance for an amount so now
if you wanted to hire somebody let's say
[22:56] you had a position open and you had
somebody with a little bit more
[23:00] extensive experience come back you you
can actually but so the ranges are I
[23:05] think a better practice to have it seems
like when this was put in yeah but it
[23:11] was my doing they're too high the ranges
slope the max is when you'd look at
[23:14] somebody's salary they're making now and
the range we would never bring somebody
[23:19] in if somebody's making 40 in the range
is up 200 that whoever's hiring could
[23:24] hire the person for a hundred when the
job somebody's been doing it for forty
[23:28] four years so I think it shouldn't be
any these max shouldn't be anything more
[23:33] than five percent over what the person
is earning now I mean even if the person
[23:38] no one's filling that position
I like I said I'll I think it should be
[23:42] ranges like I said and you need to have
some opening because of but like I said
[23:46] I agree that it's a huge gap but again
anyway I will second the motion to table
[23:53] it to the next meeting and is that
somebody gonna look at this I mean this
[23:57] will be the probably suggestions from
each of those the council is our next
[24:02] meeting on a Thursday Thursday
Memorial Day but that's it we're tabling
[24:12] it to May 31st we need to do a roeckl
yes to table yes yes so we'll be
[24:35] reaching out to us for our suggestions
to us okay if you want to discuss them
[24:44] okay the first is just sending it to us
whichever way you prefer okay what's the
[24:50] best time to reach you
that's the time during the day anytime
[24:54] anytime okay bye hey if there's if I'm
involved with something I'll get back to
[24:59] you right away okay
[25:04] let's see next we're back to public
comments may have a motion motion have a
[25:11] second all in favor
is there anyone from the public that
[25:17] would like to step forward and make
comment seeing no one may have a motion
[25:21] to close motion second all in favor
mayor's comments yes thank you tenant
[25:30] set legends vacated the premises without
incident one of our volunteers and mr.
[25:36] Wahlburgers attended a state urban
forestry program receive training that
[25:41] will make us eligible for future tree
grants less restrictive than the
[25:45] previous one the DCA has approved the
redevelopment zone for the McAfee
[25:50] village which includes legends
congressman God Homer recognized ferns
[25:55] Earth Fest and he presented us with a
congressional certificate and the Taste
[26:04] of Vernon was again a huge and
outstanding success if you've never been
[26:08] there I highly recommend next year that
you go the food is just fantastic and
[26:13] it's nice to meet with the people and
speak with them and you hear their
[26:16] concerns but it really is a food fest
it's like Thanksgiving and I mean it's
[26:20] quality food and lots of it I mean it
just it used to be just the tasting
[26:25] you're getting full meals and you get
seconds so it's really great and it just
[26:30] shows you how talented a lot of our
restaurants and merchants and they come
[26:35] from even like Warwick and from other
areas to I do want to let you know I was
[26:40] accused of encroaching on the Black
Creek along the Sand Hill Road trail by
[26:45] an anonymous complaint this unknown
person had an issue with I laid and I
[26:50] take full responsibility two planks
across a small Creek this was a cross
[26:56] running water didn't contact the water
and the reason I did it was so our
[26:59] volunteers could go and clear deer paths
and stuff so we could have people walk
[27:04] on our own property and also so the
Daisy Scouts could come in and they were
[27:08] hanging birdhouses that they made as
well as you know carry and carry out
[27:14] sciences this occurred last summer
the DEP formed the complaint that I did
[27:20] nothing wrong and at the time the
complainant filed another complaint
[27:23] regarding a fire pit at our DPW DPW
gravel yard this person lied to the DPA
[27:30] DEP that I did not obtain a permit to
have a little fire I did there was a
[27:36] permit again I take full responsibility
for the pit that I constructed out
[27:41] discarded bricks from the Handy hand
playground that had been laying there
[27:43] for years so that a campfire could be
made to roast marshmallows it was told
[27:48] that day and we thought it would be a
nice thing for the children and their
[27:52] parents to have marshmallows toasted on
the day in question residents including
[27:56] young children walked a town center
trail that's along 94 off a Black Creek
[28:00] Drive where our yard is volunteers
cleared it previously and we offered the
[28:06] children and the parents s'mores that
was the whole reason for the fire was to
[28:11] make s'mores for these people DEP has
told me I don't have it in writing the
[28:15] reports not formalized there are no
violations I take no issue with the DEP
[28:21] but DEP investigating these frivolous
complaints because it's their job even
[28:25] when we receive a complaint we have to
either investigate it we got to pass it
[28:29] up but you can't look the other way and
I understand it this complainants
[28:33] actions are example of what has turned
burnin into a Pottersville controlled by
[28:37] politics and puppets who strings a
Pullman pulled by the resorts and
[28:40] developers for decades and we're putting
this administration with your help is
[28:44] putting an end to it I do take issue
with the DEP when they decline to
[28:48] investigate hundreds of railroad ties
that were thrown into the wetlands on
[28:52] our property and we're in contact with
water and they did not conduct an
[28:57] investigation at that time they refused
to conduct an investigation and they
[29:01] also have dragged their feet on this
whole thing it's Silverson spruce road
[29:06] well you know there's hundreds if not
over a thousand truckloads of soil that
[29:12] we do not know where it's coming from
have been don't estimates are that it's
[29:16] 80 to 500 feet high covering over two
acres we keep pushing for the DEP to
[29:23] come in we have pushed for the county
come in we have pushed for the state
[29:26] place to bring in weigh teams we have
had no success and that's why you
[29:31] gracious enough to help us with the soil
bringing in ordinance and it just isn't
[29:37] for that there's other areas too but
every day we are getting complaints from
[29:41] residents what are you doing about it
our hands are tied it has to come from
[29:45] the state or the county agencies that
take care of this there continue coming
[29:51] the person that owns the property
responsible was fined seventy five
[29:55] thousand dollars last week in court
there's also several 55-gallon polyvinyl
[30:01] drums being stored in the property we
don't know what's in that we don't know
[30:04] if they contain anything we don't know
if it's found its way into the soil and
[30:08] this is a huge problem because we don't
need it in the aquifer you know water
[30:13] flows downhill that's up high is it
going to go into people's wells
[30:16] if there is contaminants we have one
resident who allegedly alleges they
[30:22] followed these dump trucks they went out
to Warren County to a gas station where
[30:25] they're taking dirt out of a gas station
and bringing it back here
[30:28] they videotaped us and it's all on
record so this administration our Police
[30:36] Department we are very frustrated that
our hands are tied so I do take issue
[30:41] with these state agencies and county
agencies when this is out of our
[30:45] jurisdiction it's out of our authority
we need their help to come in here and
[30:49] investigate this start taking soil
samples do what you need to do to put an
[30:53] end to this so in the near future future
I was contacted by governor Murphy's
[30:59] staff his chief of staff and they've
asked me to go down there and speak to
[31:05] them about the complaints I have about
the agencies and some other issues here
[31:09] in Vernon I will take them up on that
and I will take issue the way the
[31:14] response we've had from some of these
agencies this administration will
[31:18] continue to advocate for the residents
and taxpayers Vernon will once again be
[31:22] a Bedford Falls I always look at the
wonderful life rights one of my favorite
[31:25] movies and that's what we need to go
back to children can hang birdhouses and
[31:31] parents and children and volunteers can
make s'mores without the state coming in
[31:35] investigating us when this other
violations alleged violations exists so
[31:41] there's not a balance here birdhouses to
planck's
[31:44] and s'mores being trumped not being
investigated these ridiculous horrendous
[31:49] violations have taken place in our town
so thank you question Thanks
[31:54] did he have a stop order dumping stop
order over four years ago
[31:58] he's dysphoria so now how does our soil
ordinance help with this because he must
[32:04] be spreading it at the register what
they're doing where it's coming from
[32:08] right so after 45 days after so there's
him it doesn't seem like he cares very
[32:19] much about fines my leg these days I
might as well so they never tested that
[32:34] soil the DEP we're aware of
we've asked numerous we're frustrated to
[32:44] understand where the residents are
coming from them but they don't have the
[32:49] authority we don't have the power to do
it
[32:52] mm-hmm we have to rely on other
government agencies then the county
[32:57] couldn't stop it either don't they have
their own soil erosion they didn't
[33:01] replace the person who was in charge of
soil conservation I'm retired
[33:06] there's no one there there's no they now
are relying on a shared service with
[33:11] Warren that's not likely gonna get
anybody up here anytime soon the court
[33:19] dates ago I think he was he was issued
additional summonses yes this last one
[33:25] was to here on the first one but it has
other summonses before him but I'm not
[33:31] sure that it said that but that
stop-work order that the one from last
[33:35] year that's not still in effect is it if
that had to do with the first case I
[33:39] mean I don't
I've asked the attached paternity to
[33:43] look into that a little further to see
what what if anything we can do since
[33:47] the municipal court judge judge Devine
did not think I think he didn't feel was
[33:53] within his purview to do that
that perhaps we have to go to Superior
[33:56] Court whatever needs to be done we need
to do it and sooner rather than later
[34:04] council comments it's a class area
alluded to was down at Rutgers it was a
[34:14] core that we had to have now we'll be
able to apply for grants for a plan
[34:19] which interns be able to apply for
grants for trees if you can any time any
[34:26] of these seminars that are coming up
they really appreciate if they can send
[34:29] DPW workers since they're the ones that
are be planting trees because it was
[34:34] really a well thought out class by
Rutgers the other I'd like to thank the
[34:40] public that came out for the Kiwanis had
their flower sale on Saturday and we had
[34:44] a good turnout so thank you to the folks
that came out for that no comment just
[34:58] like people that are here to know that
tomorrow is the freeholder debate at
[35:04] 7:00 p.m. at the Sussex County Community
College of Performing Arts Center so
[35:12] should be interesting for those they met
and they may actually livestream it so
[35:17] you could probably just watch it there
would be a good time to ask them about
[35:21] the soil conservation but the only other
thing I wanted to mention that we had a
[35:28] couple weeks ago councilmember ol burger
and I with the business administrator
[35:34] and the police department we met with
the county engineering and their
[35:39] administrator regarding some of the
issues in Vernon s on some other roads
[35:44] with the intersections so they said that
they were going to start with some
[35:47] signage and look at some some other
areas I think the police department is
[35:50] going to send them accident reports for
550
[35:53] and also for the intersection down at
the end of Vernon crossing and 5:17
[35:59] there Smokey's because that seems to be
and it was two days later like a head-on
[36:04] accident over there and so they're going
to take a look at some of those
[36:08] intersections and you'll notice at least
at the divider they've put some
[36:14] reflective signs at the end of each of
the that main divider there because
[36:19] everybody we're not everybody a lot of
times people keep running the signs over
[36:22] and just running right over the divider
so I think maybe maybe it'll help
[36:26] something at night so um but like I said
I at least they did start something and
[36:31] I did notice the retention pond is being
mowed so that that's good
[36:37] the only other thing I have is the the
family building still has our phone
[36:41] number I know we don't own the building
anymore but still has our phone number
[36:44] on it so that it's for sale but you know
I guess we don't know I guess it
[36:49] hopefully it's transferred already but
just like working on the closings yeah
[36:57] so I just thought I'd mentioned that our
phone number at least we could take that
[37:01] down other than that to some that we had
in that ordinance they hadn't put in a
[37:07] permit that's still in the ordinance for
the faylene didn't we have did we take
[37:14] that out they had to do a permit within
a certain amount of time is that
[37:20] contingency with the with max ban and he
felt that putting any contingencies for
[37:29] the either that property or any of the
others may hurt our chances of selling
[37:34] the property owners don't know that then
or me so cuz it wasn't in the ordinance
[37:38] we never took it out so these people
don't know it
[37:42] I'm under depression they do know we'll
fight it out because I want to I think
[37:48] originally it was gonna be like 120 days
and then says like 180 or 200 we
[37:52] extended it right we don't want to sit
in there no I understand that but that
[37:57] was an ordinance with that stipulation
in it we all voted on that and to say
[38:02] pool pool okay
no you know it doesn't matter anymore I
[38:05] mean we had to do some to undo it we
would have to undo it Town Center and we
[38:17] wanted to look nice and get a business
in there that generates jobs and revenue
[38:23] the Memorial Day means coming on myself
[38:28] hopefully beautification works on some
more of those flags and flowers great
[38:32] job I think I think we're doing that
portion future first second third and
[38:40] fourth all in favor
[38:53] you