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» Oh, okay.

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credit.

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>> Okay. At this time, I'll call to order

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the meeting of Monday, July 27th, 2026

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to order. I ask that all who have not

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signed in, please do so. Please turn off

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all cell phones and other electronic

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devices. Please conduct any private

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conversation in the hallway or outside.

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Um, this meeting is equipped with

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inductive loop hearing assistance.

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Emergency access can be found to your

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right and to your left. This meeting is

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also live streamed via YouTube with text

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commenting available. Uh this evening we

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have our county clerk Jean Chrisman here

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and we've asked Jean if she would lead

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us in the pledge of

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>> allegiance

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to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for it

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stands one nation under God indivisible

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with liberty and justice for all.

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we have all of our town board members

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are present

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for supervisors announcement. Prior to

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the start of the meeting here, we have

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eight birthdays to celebrate and

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recognize in the month of September.

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Starting with September the 2nd, Greg

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Knap.

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September 5th, Casey Paige. The 13th,

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Steve Hendrickson. And the 13th as well,

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Debbie Trouad. On the 20th, Tom Psonelli

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on the 23rd, Hayden Nearpass, the 25th,

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Joanne Henry, and on the 29th, Stacy

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Preston. So, happy birthday to all those

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individuals. [snorts]

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In addition, I do have a walk-in

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resolution for the town board's

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consideration consideration. This would

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be the acknowledgement of the

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resignation of a deputy town clerk. and

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resolution number one which is on this

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evening's agenda will be moved up and we

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will consider that prior to uh the

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privilege of the floor and right after

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the payment of bills. So couple things

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at this time for the board's

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consideration we have meeting minutes

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from the July 27th town board meeting.

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So moved second.

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>> All those in favor? I abain. Thank you.

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I

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>> for the approval of minutes for the

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August 6. This was a special meeting.

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

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>> All those in favor?

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>> I.

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>> And the final one would be again uh the

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August 10th pay bills only meeting for

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your consideration.

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

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>> All those in favor?

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>> I.

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And at this time, we'll ask that

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manifest number 16 be introduced.

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>> The Victor Town Board has reviewed

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manifest number 16 in the amount of

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668,50044

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with the following accounts charged.

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General Townwide, General Outside

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Village, Parkland Trust Fund, Highway

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Townwide, Victor Fire Protection, SS

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Consolidated Sewer Fund, and Trusting

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Agency.

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>> Thank you. And you'll see up on the

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screen, these are expenditures that are

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in the range of or exceed $5,000. We

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start with uh item number one, payment

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to American Rock Salt.

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Number two, Barkley Damon July legal

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fees. There are some chargebacks

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associated with this invoice. Payment to

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CP Ward for emergency sewer repair and

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pump station 5 payment. Payment to Doyle

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security. Upgrades to the court security

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system. Payment to environmental

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equipment for a new recycling truck.

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Payments to payment to Harris Beach for

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July and August legal services. Payment

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to RG townwide and street lightning

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lighting charges and payment to soft

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surfaces for the um gymnasium flooring.

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Timewise uh is a July cleaning service

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invoice. Total of the above mentioned

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expenditures is $617,44624.

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Total town expenditures minus the

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previously mentioned expenditures above

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equals $50,63920.

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Town board members, any question on

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manifest number 16?

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>> Mark, I just have a question about the

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road salt. [clears throat] Is this to

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fill up the barn before winter or is

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this

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>> So, the current contract ends at the end

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of this month.

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>> And there's a 9% increase for next next

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the next contract.

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>> Okay. Well, will then we do another

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like another order just to make sure

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it's full, I guess, at capacity. It is

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full.

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>> It's full now.

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>> Oh, yay. Yep.

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>> And were they good on delivery? Yes. To

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the time. Okay. Yep. Here we go. That's

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it. Okay.

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>> Thank you. So moved. Second.

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>> All those in favor?

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>> Okay, as as I mentioned, we're going to

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just go out of order here a bit. Um, and

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we're going to go to

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resolution number one, which is in your

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agenda, if I may, is to the appointment

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of an interim town clerk

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pursuant to section

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five of the New York town law. And

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whereas uh the office of town clerk is

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currently vacant due to the retirement

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of former town victor town clerk Karen

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Boddine. Whereas an election of office

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of town clerk will be held on November

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4th, 2026 for term of office commencing

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on January 1st, 2027.

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Whereas, pursuant to section 6405 of the

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New York town law, the town board is

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vested with the authority to appoint a

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qualified person to fill a vacancy due

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to the retirement of a town clerk. And

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whereas the town board believes that it

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is in the best interest of the town of

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Victor and his residents to appoint a

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qualified person to serve as a town

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clerk on an interim basis until that

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office can be filled by an election. Now

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therefore, now therefore, it is hereby

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resolved that pursuant to section 645 of

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New York Town Law, Kimberly A. Can

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Consella is appointed to serve as a town

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clerk from August 25th, 2026 to December

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31st, 2026. And be it further resolved

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that the town clerk of the town of

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Victor shall cause a certified copy of

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this resolution to be duly recorded in

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the office of of the clerk of Ontario

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County within 10 days of the adoption of

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this resolution. And be it further

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resolved that this resolution shall take

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effect immediately.

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>> So moved.

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>> All those in favor?

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>> just Jack. I'm sorry because I'm so

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excited about this. Um, but I just want

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to make sure that and if we submit our

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resolution to state they don't turn

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down. November 3rd is election day. You

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got it. Okay, we're good.

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>> Wrong on our calendar.

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>> Now we can clap. [cough]

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>> Thank you.

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» At this day, at this time, the county

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clerk, Jean Chrisman, will

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administer the office of oath for our

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new town clerk.

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>> Raise your right hand.

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>> I, Kimberly A. Canella

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>> I, Kimberly A. Canelo

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>> do solemnly swear that I will support

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>> the Constitution of the United States

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>> and the Constitution of the State of New

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York

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>> and the Constitution of the State of New

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York

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>> and that I will faithfully discharge

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>> the duties of the office of

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>> interim town clerk for the town of

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Victor

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>> interim town clerk for the town of

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Victor

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>> according to the best of my ability.

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>> Congratulations. So happy.

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[applause]

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>> I just want to thank the board for their

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support and it's a shortterm

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interrum.

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[laughter]

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>> Yes. I want it noted for the record.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Okay. Privilege of the floor. Mr. James

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Credicose.

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» Uh, good evening everybody. Uh, my name

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is James Credos. I'm with BME

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Associates. I'm here on behalf of

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Commercial Street Partners LLC. Um, a

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couple weeks ago, we submitted a request

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to this board as part of our Woods of

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Allentown project. Uh, that was in front

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of you guys last year for some PDD

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amendments. Um, we just started into the

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final section 2 through four subdivision

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application. We're going to be at the

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planning board tomorrow night and we

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were at the conservation board last

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Tuesday. Um, the request of this board

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is to abandon some existing easements.

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These were easements that were created

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back in 2007 as part of the original

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High Point uh business park development.

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Um when we first subdivided out the um

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lots at the bottom of the hill as well

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as office buildings 100, 200, 300, etc.

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Um what happened was there was a design

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at that time for some townhouse layouts

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and a lot of the easements were filed

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including u several conservation

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easements through the whole woods at

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Valenton property and some other

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easements. So the request uh to the town

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is to abandon seven easements. Uh four

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of them are conservation easements. Two

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are utility easements that were

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associated with some storm sewers and

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one is a water main easement again that

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was associated with a water main design.

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Um the water main easement and the uh

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two utility easements are shown on this.

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So that walk you through this. This is

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the just an existing aerial of the woods

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of Bontown property. The blue is our

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property limits. Um the easements we are

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looking to abandon this red easement up

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at the top here and this one here. These

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are the two utility easements that just

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had to do with some storm sewers and

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then there's also this red one that goes

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east west just a little bit here. This

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is the water main easement. Uh with the

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new layout and design, none of these are

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going to be applicable. They'll be

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conflicting with some building layouts.

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So those are just going to get

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abandoned. Um and then we'll recreate

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new access and utility easements based

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on the final design as we go through it.

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The four conservation easements that we

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are requesting to be abandoned are the

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four green blobs up at the northern part

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of the site. Uh basically what we're

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going to do is abandon those and then

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recreate the M in approximately the same

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spot. We need to move some of them, you

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know, 10 ft this way, 10 ft this way to

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kind of fit in with the new development,

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follow the new grading limits, tree

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lines, etc. Um but what we're going to

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do is get them recreated. I'll walk you

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through the rest of this quick. The

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yellow easements here are existing

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drainage easements to the town. Those

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are in place for the stormwater

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facilities that have been built and

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operating for probably 15 plus years

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now. And then the large uh lavender

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color here, these are the large existing

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conservation easements that exist

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between the loop of High Point Drive.

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Those are in a separate easement

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document. We're not going to be touching

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those at all and we're still kind of

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coordinating with uh the parks and recck

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department on them starting the trails

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through those loops. Um, if you wouldn't

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mind flipping to the next slide.

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Uh, so this is the proposed layout for

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the Woods of Valentine Town. As you can

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see, we've got, uh, the four green areas

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in approximately the same location, as

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well as one more additional green area

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over here just to make sure that these

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trees never get cleared out um, in the

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future. And then everything else here,

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this red, is all either drainage

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easements or combined access and utility

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easements. Um, so this is pretty

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straightforward request. Uh, the board

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already kind of, uh, completed the first

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step of this a couple years ago when we

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abandoned some of the existing access

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and utility easements in section one and

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those were recreated. This is something

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we've always kind of talked about and

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knew we had to do um, moving into this

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last step. Um, as I mentioned, we have

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about a 1% decrease in total area to the

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conservation easements. We did meet with

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the conservation board last Tuesday,

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review this in detail with them. The

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recommendation was to just abandon the

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conservation easements. All four of them

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are exist in one easement document.

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We're just going to NYX it and then we

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will recreate those easements with the

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new town standards site specific based

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on um some of the trail language and

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things that we'd like to incorporate

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into the easements up at the northern

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part of the site um to allow you know

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future development of trails. Uh the two

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utility easements exist in their own

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easement document. However, there is a

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separate easement in that one. So we

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would just look to remove the two

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easements from that and then the water

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main easement is a standalone easement

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to get rid of. So it's pretty

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straightforward. Basically next these

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will resubmit new easements that'll get

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reviewed as part of the final

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subdivision application and then when we

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go to um subdivide the lots for the

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sections two and four for the town

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houses, we'll create all those easements

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at the same time.

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I'd be happy to answer any other

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questions about the project if you guys

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are just curious for an update um or if

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you have questions specific to this.

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>> I think the uh I appreciate you spending

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time with the conservation board and I

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know um uh staff has put together a

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detailed overview of uh the questions

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that were asked of you uh during the

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course of that. upon my review certainly

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and again this is my opinion. I seems

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like it checks all the boxes for what I

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was looking for from um regarding this.

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So

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>> I thought it was pretty straightforward

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James I appreciate it and the comments

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from the conservation board as well.

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>> Anyone have any questions for James?

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>> I agree. uh conservation board noted

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they recommended consider for the

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northern boundary uh whether the

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boundary of the northern conservation

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unit can be simplified or straightened

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where feasible. Is that something you've

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done?

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>> Yep. We we will incorporate that.

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Basically what we were doing is we are

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following the existing um conservation

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ement along the side. It basically

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followed the wetland limits that we

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delineated a long time ago. So there's a

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lot of angle points in there as part of

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the town requirements. Every angle point

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we have to put a marker on. So, they

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were just asking if we can straighten

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that so they don't have to have 15

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markers all kind of in close proximity.

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So, we'll we'll take care of cleaning

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that up as part of this and it'll still

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basically follow the same limits with

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just less little angles.

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>> Okay.

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>> Any other questions for James?

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Okay. Well, good luck tomorrow night.

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Your town planning board meeting.

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>> Perfect. And then we'll just work with

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you guys to resolve this. Think

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>> you're good.

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>> Okay.

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>> Wonderful. Thank you all so much. Have a

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great night.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Okay.

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At this time, uh, under the this

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evening's agenda, public comment and

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concerns, opportunities for members of

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the public to address the town board.

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Okay. Moving to reports of town

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officials. Within your packet, board

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members, you had a report from the

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planning and building department,

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economic development.

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Yes, sir. I didn't want why don't you

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come to the podium so we could hear you.

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>> I'm sorry. I didn't want to skip over I

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requested privilege of the floor and I

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didn't want to skip over the public

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comment part if this is the time that I

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can address.

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>> Yes.

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Thank you. Good evening ladies and

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gentlemen of the Vicortown board. Thank

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you for the privilege of speaking to you

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tonight. I have a request and an

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opportunity.

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>> Excuse me sir. Can you just state your

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name and your address for the record,

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please?

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>> Sure. Uh my name is Edgar Brown. uh 3137

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Connor Road 47 in Canada.

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Uh tonight I'm speaking as a member of

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the Fingerlakes Justice Partnership.

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250 years ago, Americans began securing

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their independence by enumerating and

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decrying the many injuries, abuses, and

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usurppations visited upon them by King

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George III and communicating them to

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each other through committees of

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correspondence.

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Today we feel the need to protest a

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king-like authoritarian president who

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thinks he is above the law and is again

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inflicting an onslaught of injuries,

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abuses, and intolerable acts upon the

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American people. We are calling upon you

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to issue resolutions of condemnation for

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the current administration in

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Washington. You can choose whichever

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issues you feel are the most important

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to highlight, but the goal is to foster

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robust public debate and for this

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governing body to go on public record

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with your position. Of course, a

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nonresponse is also a response. And the

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results of this regionwide initiative

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that began in June at the Ontario County

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Board of Supervisors meeting and is part

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of a broader national initiative in

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honor of America's 250th birthday will

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be published in local print and social

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media in time to help undecided voters.

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Rather than being divisive, we see this

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effort as merely illuminating divisions

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that already exist. We are offering this

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body an extraordinary opportunity to

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clarify your position within this

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current political environment and

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demonstrate complete transparency for

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your constituents. As the Declaration of

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Independence states, "Let the facts be

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submitted to a candid world." Of course,

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the original intent of this whole

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project was to formally condemn federal

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overreach, but if there's policy that

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you support, then your constituents need

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to know that as well. Again, the goal is

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robust public debate and complete

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transparency.

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I'll submit a copy of this request to

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the clerk, a draft resolution that

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you're welcome to modify, as well as

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copies of previous resolutions of

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condemnation that have been issued by

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other governing bodies and

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municipalities from across the country.

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So far, there have been 95 resolutions

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in 23 states. As far as I know, you

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could be the first in New York. I

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encourage you to explore the link that I

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have included for more information on

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the national initiative and the genesis

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of the project. I thank you for your

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time this evening and look forward to

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continuing dialogue. Thank you.

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>> Thank you, sir.

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>> Where can I leave this?

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>> Yep.

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>> Please.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Okay. I'll let just ask again if there's

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any members of the public care to

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address the town board.

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Okay, moving to the reports again. We

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have planning and building department in

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your packet, economic development,

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parks and recreation, which we'll get

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back to momentarily,

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highway, and finance report. Board

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members, any questions on those five.

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Okay, at this time um we had to shorten

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our work budget workshop prior to and

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Brian was ready to uh give us an

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overview regarding Dryer Road Park.

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Brian, if you would continue,

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we'd appreciate it.

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Thank you, sir.

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» Thank you.

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» Good evening. Brian Emerson, director of

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parks and recreation. Um where we left

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off with our um budget u proposal

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earlier tonight was at the end of the

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operating budget. So uh what I'll focus

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my comments on um for Supervisor Marin

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is just on our capital B parks

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facilities proposal. Um these are

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expenditures that are typically financed

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through your Capitol parks trust fund um

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which is now um set at $2,000 and it's

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achieved through um the purchase of a

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new home either by the owner of the home

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or the developer um absorbs that cost.

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So these are projects that are largely

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financed without an impact to taxes.

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That being said, in 2026, we completed a

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variety of capital projects um this

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year, including the construction of a

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new playground at Dryer Road Park. Uh

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the second phase of improvements to

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Harlem Fischer Park, including the

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landscaping with uh eight additional

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trees planted and over 100 shrubs um in

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the park. And um as of today, we just uh

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had our first day of construction on the

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new roofing system um at Mary Francis

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Bluebird Haven, which will be completed

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by the end of the year. So that will be

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our um second to last capital project.

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Um, as the board is also aware, um,

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originally this year we were budgeted in

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a capital budget to, um, construct a

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nine-hole disc golf course, um, on the

550
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,520
land known as, um, currently under unde

551
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000
undeveloped land known as Paparon Park.

552
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Um, in late spring, um, our park and

553
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,880
wreck advisory committee um, in

554
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,039
cooperation with a town board asked that

555
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,679
we look at another location in our park

556
00:30:27,679 --> 00:30:30,399
system for um, a disc golf course. So it

557
00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:32,559
might be an 18hole disc golf course,

558
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:34,880
might involve some wooded portions of

559
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,840
the dis disc golf course um as well as

560
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,360
open meadow. Um we've had one sitewalk

561
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,799
um to date of the Fischer Park project.

562
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:47,919
Um the group included myself um J

563
00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:51,440
Councilman Tip uh woman Typton uh Dave

564
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,120
Cop from the Rochester District um disc

565
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,760
golf association. um Ed Martin, a

566
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,279
resident and stakeholder, and Dirk

567
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:01,279
Andress, who's with me here tonight, the

568
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,440
chair of um our parks and recreation

569
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,279
citizen advisory committee, wasn't able

570
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:06,880
to make that, but he's integrally

571
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,279
involved with the disc golf course

572
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:12,240
project. I anticipate um having a site

573
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,000
design for an 18hole disc golf course um

574
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,720
by the end of this week. Um and um uh

575
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,399
should the project move forward, I'll be

576
00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:24,080
meeting with some additional residents

577
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,559
um in Fischer area. I've already met met

578
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:31,440
with two of four um two two thus far.

579
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,320
I'm anticipating meeting with four other

580
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,760
um uh resident um residents that are on

581
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,480
the old Dutch roadside um to give due

582
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,640
diligence um getting their feedback for

583
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,519
the project. And um if all goes well,

584
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,720
I'll have a resolution at uh one of your

585
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600
September meetings for the purchase of

586
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,240
um the disc golf baskets which largely

587
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,640
comprise um that disc golf course. And

588
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,799
that'll bring to close our capital

589
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:01,679
projects for this year. Moving into next

590
00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:04,159
year, as you're well aware, the the

591
00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:06,720
parks and recreation uh citizen advisory

592
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,600
committee is a stakeholder group that is

593
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,600
works closely with the department as an

594
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,399
advocate for capital projects like I I

595
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,960
will share with you tonight. Um we are

596
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880
proposing as a department two capital

597
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,200
projects in 2027. Uh the first of which

598
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,279
is a $137,000

599
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:28,640
project involving the repaving of the

600
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,240
park road and primary parking area at

601
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,760
Victor Municipal Park. Um that park road

602
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,279
was originally constructed in 2008. Um

603
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:42,480
it was uh constructed um just prior to

604
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,679
the park opening in 2010 to facilitate

605
00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:48,960
construction when we um installed the

606
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,880
park entrance road. Um it was uh

607
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,960
discussed with the town board of paving

608
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,159
it or chip sealing it um from a cost um

609
00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:00,720
standpoint because we were going be

610
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,640
committed to a variety of other elements

611
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,960
within that park um including a

612
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,960
playground in the first phase, a picnic

613
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,080
shelter, the fishing pond. Um the board

614
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,320
at that time chose to instead of pave it

615
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,360
with asphalt chose to um do what's

616
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,679
called a double chip seal application.

617
00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:19,840
It's a highcapacity park as you all

618
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,039
know. Um si additional phases have been

619
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,919
built. Um since the park was opened in

620
00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:30,080
2010 and 2012 we built um a year-round

621
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,600
lodge there with permanent bathrooms. Um

622
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080
subsequent to that we've built our um

623
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,760
special events amphitheater and

624
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,919
bandshell to that park. So it gets a lot

625
00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:42,399
of use. Um and over the years the road

626
00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:44,559
has become in disrepair over the past

627
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:48,159
decade and a half. Um it's uh very flat

628
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:50,960
even though that there's um drainage um

629
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,640
associated with that and several storm

630
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:59,919
water ponds that carry water um off that road. Um the surrounding

631
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:02,559
area is a lot of wetlands. There's a lot

632
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:04,480
there's a subdivision that was also

633
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440
built after the park was built and it's

634
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,159
time that we should look at addressing

635
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:11,839
um some of the challenges with the

636
00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:14,800
potholes in that road. So, um, we're

637
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,079
proposing a project to repave the park

638
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:19,839
road.

639
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:22,399
Any questions about, um, that proposed

640
00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:24,399
project?

641
00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:27,280
We just propose paving the road and then

642
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,679
the main parking area. We're not

643
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:34,720
proposing paving the entire 200 um bar

644
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:37,280
parking area because largely, if you

645
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,560
recall during the ARPA funding, we um

646
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,359
added lights, LED lights to that parking

647
00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:45,119
lot. We added cameras to that parking

648
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:48,800
lot and then we also um put an ancillary

649
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,879
seasonal parking lot that is um gravel,

650
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:54,399
if you will. It has some drainage in.

651
00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:55,919
There's 4in pipe in there. There's some

652
00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:57,839
drainage. There's no catch basins in

653
00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:00,079
there, but that's largely to support

654
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:02,240
special events like our Thursday night

655
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,880
concert series. Um, we have a road race

656
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,400
that we host in January that exceeds the

657
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,880
capacity of the formal parking area.

658
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,599
We're just proposing um paving the

659
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,640
entrance road um out to the out out to

660
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,320
the park entrance where it splits off

661
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040
from um Doorchester Park subdivision and

662
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,440
then the main parking area. Ryan, is

663
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,920
there a was it considered of just the

664
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,280
lower cost of having our highway

665
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,040
department do some general repair and a

666
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,720
new a new chip ceiling there, or is it

667
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,160
just because of the the infrastructure

668
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,040
of that surface is so worn that it

669
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,640
requires a full replacement?

670
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,720
>> We've we've wedged in there with the

671
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,280
department. We've patched potholes um

672
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,040
with there and we've done a like a

673
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,839
wedging application, I would call it, um

674
00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:51,200
several times. Um but um it's not

675
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,160
sustainable. I would say it's it it's

676
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,560
not going to serve you very well. It's

677
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,119
going to continue to disintegrate.

678
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,440
Um and

679
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,680
uh the staff asked that we look at that

680
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,480
in in an upcoming capital budget cycle.

681
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,760
because we did look at it with Labella

682
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,400
several years ago and the cost to do

683
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,079
that was over $700,000.

684
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,240
Um it involved a lot more additional

685
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:19,760
drainage. It involved a different type

686
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,880
of asphalt application that we're

687
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,119
proposing. Um it was right on the heels

688
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:27,520
of doing the dryer road park parking

689
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:33,040
lot. Um, and it had uh an asphalt um and

690
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,200
glass sheeting um rolled out onto the

691
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,160
road. Um but the cost was insurmountable

692
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,480
at that time with us being already under

693
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,400
construction in the first phase of

694
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,720
Harlem Fisher Park, anticipating a

695
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,839
second phase of Harlem Fisher Park and

696
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:53,520
then other future upgrades. We can

697
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,520
certainly look at we could certainly

698
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,079
look at um uh a more enhanced project,

699
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:01,920
but it I don't think the cost is going

700
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,880
to come down. I think our price includes

701
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,359
the the highway department aiding us in

702
00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:10,079
hauling material for this project, but

703
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,160
we would still have to buy asphalt and

704
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,119
rent a paver and an operator to hook on

705
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,320
to essentially.

706
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,119
>> If that answers you.

707
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:19,760
>> Yes. Thank you.

708
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,599
>> You got it.

709
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,599
Um the other project the advisory

710
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:27,599
committee and I are proposing is um uh

711
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,760
creating an asphalt pump track and a

712
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,000
bicycle playground for Dryro Park as

713
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,480
depicted uh in a similar project in the

714
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,920
photos. Um to date we've built three

715
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,400
dirt pump tracks at Dry Road Park. Um

716
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,119
it's not the most um appealing feature

717
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,000
of that park, especially now with the

718
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,440
new playground. um the pump tracks uh

719
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,320
for bicycles and it's lot it's heavily

720
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,640
populated um by toddlers by preschoolers

721
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,160
that so they can be in eyesight of the

722
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,240
parking lot where their parents are or a

723
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,359
sibling on the on the playground. Um

724
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:07,839
we've done three dirt ones, one better

725
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:10,800
than the next. Um, the last one we did,

726
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,720
we hired a professional design company

727
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,520
to come in and design a dirt pump track.

728
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,400
And we watch the wind go down the road

729
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,240
and through the trees, and eventually

730
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,560
the dirt just dissipates.

731
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,839
Um, and we've got a new playground

732
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:30,800
there. We've made major modifications to

733
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,960
the trail system to make the existing

734
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520
trails in there more relevant. um given

735
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,839
the traffic that that park use. We've

736
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:40,240
got our second box rink in there with

737
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,280
new turf and then we have the pump

738
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,560
track. And so the committee and I felt

739
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,560
that this was the most shovel ready

740
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,200
project to look into the near term in

741
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,599
weighing a variety of different other

742
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,280
projects that the board might be

743
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,280
considering and it's been discussed over

744
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,960
the past year. Um, we anticipate there

745
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,320
being needing a some significant outside

746
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,079
fundraising as well. We have met um with

747
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,400
our um with Genesee Regional Off-Road

748
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,160
Cyclist and they're interested in

749
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,000
helping to fund uh offset some of the

750
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
design costs. The design costs are can

751
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,640
be anywhere from 10 to 14,000. It can be

752
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,520
a phased project. Um essentially the

753
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,480
pump track would uh grow in size and

754
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,640
instead of it being dirt rollers in

755
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,680
there um it would be asphalt

756
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,280
be easier um to use year round and then

757
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,680
the concept of a bicycle playground. the advisory committee looked at

758
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,800
possibly making um improvements to our

759
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,359
existing jump lines, but I think Drew

760
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:47,200
was in the meeting and we felt that like

761
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,520
approaching the lowest common

762
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,839
denominator of bicyclist that utilizes

763
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:54,320
that park. A bicycle playground in

764
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,320
conjunction with an asphalt pump track

765
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,640
will get a lot more use than jump lines

766
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,760
which create higher higher uh levels of

767
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,240
skill, higher higher levels of technical

768
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,760
riding ability. So, we obtained um a

769
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,040
quote from the American Ramp Company um

770
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,920
who does this all across the country. Um

771
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,760
they're just finished a project in

772
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,560
Saratoga Springs um on a new asphalt

773
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,320
pump track in that climate because they

774
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,960
had a dirt pump track that they also saw

775
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,079
not being able to substain, you know,

776
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,480
sustain the environment. I mean, we've

777
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,320
covered the pump track to keep the dirt

778
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,160
from um it's it's it's a tedious event

779
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:40,560
that we don't even can't even do. And so the group feels that that this is

780
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,880
um an existing need that could be

781
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,760
realized um immediately that could be

782
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,200
partnered with um a local nonprofit that

783
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,079
would be a benefit would be of great use

784
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:55,920
um in this area. Um, and it would be a

785
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,800
nice addition to the park.

786
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,599
So, um, the example, um, that I handed

787
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:03,920
out to you is is of an asphalt pump

788
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,160
track with a bicycle playground. And the

789
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,240
bicycle playground more or less caters

790
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:13,280
to, um, preschoolers on on no pedal tot

791
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,359
bikes where they're at ground level.

792
00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:17,200
They can ride through a variety of

793
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,200
different apparatus.

794
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,839
The park is known for its trail system

795
00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:23,920
and and and that's why we brought that

796
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,960
theme out in our in the playground. Uh

797
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,280
but this is something that uh the

798
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,480
advisory committee and I are

799
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,240
recommending you consider in an upcoming

800
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,480
budget cycle.

801
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,319
>> It certainly certainly would attract I

802
00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:38,960
think uh the older teen, you know, I

803
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,560
mean for the challenges. I mean I like

804
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,079
the idea. I don't think I'll be using it

805
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,319
but uh you know I definitely like the

806
00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:46,480
idea. I I definitely like the idea of it

807
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,720
because I think uh like you say, they've

808
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:50,800
been coming out there for years, you

809
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,760
know, uh riding that trail as it is, but

810
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,200
there's some pretty challenging things

811
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,800
that you could put out there for the

812
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,720
older kids.

813
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,119
>> Looking singularly at this project is

814
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,839
excellent and I I I like it. My only

815
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:07,359
concern is is that it offsets funding

816
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:09,359
and pushes back development at that

817
00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:11,119
paparone park which we I think that

818
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:12,240
there are some especially with the

819
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,880
potential clover clover leaf pickle ball

820
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,400
courts uh splash pad you know I think my

821
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,160
personal opinion is I I would love to

822
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,400
get that going. So my only concern I

823
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,000
guess inherently would be that this

824
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,240
offset some available funding timelines

825
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,560
for maybe that starting that project. So

826
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,640
I don't know if that's been discussed a

827
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,400
little bit further. I think the the

828
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,359
group did discuss that um with me when

829
00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:37,200
putting this budget together as well as

830
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,040
tonight and the committee feels that

831
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,640
there's a concern that that's going to

832
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,160
be so far down the line that their

833
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,520
families and the participants that they

834
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,960
represent will never see that. So I

835
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,440
think if

836
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,720
>> see the baseball fields

837
00:42:54,720 --> 00:43:00,720
>> see that progress next year. I think if the advisory committee felt and Durk

838
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,280
is here and he can communicate um for

839
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,760
himself, but I think if the advisory

840
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,240
committee feel felt that that project

841
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,839
was going to go that they would not they

842
00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:15,760
would see the needs of the many versus

843
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,800
just dry road park again. But I feel

844
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,720
that

845
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,200
I won't speak for them, but what I'm

846
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,400
hearing from them is that they want to

847
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,400
realize things

848
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,119
in in the not too distant future. And

849
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,440
they feel that like there's so many

850
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,960
variables associated with the

851
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,119
development of that park that's beyond

852
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:40,720
their existing control that they're

853
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:42,880
concerned that it's going to be pushed

854
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,319
off for three to five years. If if we

855
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:49,520
went back to them and said, "Hey, Brian,

856
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,400
get going on Seeker. Brian, get going

857
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,280
with Labella on a master plan,

858
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,280
construction cost estimates, a

859
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,880
schedule."

860
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,680
Then then I think that we're in a good

861
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,319
discussion point to maybe say we'd love

862
00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:06,319
to do the pump track, but the current

863
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:09,760
feeling is that it might be several

864
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,680
years before Paparon has progressed.

865
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,960
I don't necessarily agree with that, but

866
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,160
I'm I'm with Drew a little bit

867
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,000
>> and I'm only I'm speaking for my own

868
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,160
position, but if there's a way to get

869
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,760
that seeker going and and really get

870
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,760
working on I know we have some initial

871
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,920
label plans that they've done a couple

872
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,440
initial drawings.

873
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,280
>> Sure.

874
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,560
>> Next year I would I would love

875
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,000
personally I would love to get moving on

876
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,440
that. But are we looking at a phased in

877
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,800
approach for Paparon? Like just doing

878
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,200
the clovers and then the year after, you

879
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,640
know, we're spending two years designing

880
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,319
a splash pad and a year designing pickle

881
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:51,119
ball court. Is that maybe that's not a

882
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:52,480
question for you, Brian. Maybe that's a

883
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,839
question for the board. Is that what

884
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:55,839
we're looking at at Paparon? Maybe

885
00:44:55,839 --> 00:44:58,160
that's the Is that the concern? I Sorry,

886
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,359
I don't know who I'm directing my

887
00:44:59,359 --> 00:44:59,920
question to.

888
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,040
>> I mean that you're talking about a

889
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,640
multi-million dollar project.

890
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,800
>> Okay. for pepperon.

891
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,400
>> Yeah. And I think I think it would have

892
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,359
to be phased in.

893
00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:07,839
>> What's that?

894
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:09,200
>> I think it would Pepperon would have to

895
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,119
be a phased approach and I personally

896
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,040
starting with that clover leaf and

897
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,480
getting that underway because we have

898
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,760
had some good discussions with Little

899
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,520
League and there's some sounds like

900
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,040
there's certainly some buy in there. So

901
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,480
I think Alexis I think it would have to

902
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,560
be a multi multi-year phased in project

903
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,119
but I I would like to start phase one

904
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,440
>> and the phase one would be the clover

905
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:27,760
leaves.

906
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,280
>> Well, that's just my opinion. Okay.

907
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,560
>> Yeah. Well,

908
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,440
>> have we moved at all on that? We We

909
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,880
haven't really, have we, Jack? We

910
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,480
haven't really had much discussion on

911
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,839
that, have we?

912
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:41,599
>> No. The um the U president did send an

913
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:42,960
email today that he's back from

914
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,079
traveling and open to that um

915
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:46,880
conversation.

916
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,280
>> I think the reason that was delayed uh

917
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,880
was when we were interested in some of

918
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,800
that property and we're thinking about,

919
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,400
you know, a town facility over the

920
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,920
highway facility over there and that

921
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,000
kind of has gone to the wayside for an

922
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,240
opportunity, you know. So now it's, you

923
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,160
know, it's to utilize the the parkland

924
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,440
that we have over there. So

925
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,280
>> I mean feedback for me, Brian, would be

926
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,160
I think that the drier road plans would

927
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,680
be fantastic. It would be a great

928
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,880
addition to our resources over there. I

929
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,480
think I would I would hope that we could

930
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,400
do that in conjunction with starting the

931
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,520
process at Paperone and not allowing

932
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,520
this project at drier to prohibit us

933
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,560
from really getting [clears throat]

934
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,920
moving on that because I would I would

935
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,200
really like to see those ball fields

936
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,160
coming in.

937
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,480
Yeah, I think you know we we've got

938
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,960
interest in the ball fields as far as

939
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,800
funding already and you know I think

940
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,800
what you were putting out there Brian

941
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,520
was this at the drier road park. This is

942
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,680
more of like lowhanging fruit like we

943
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,440
can get going on it semi right away. I

944
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,160
think it would really be dependent on um

945
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,920
you know the private funders we can find

946
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,560
for it because if we can do both that

947
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,760
would be ideal at least start phase one

948
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,359
of paparone how we determine it to be

949
00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:07,200
but I I I support this

950
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,560
>> money money

951
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,960
>> also I mean one of the board one thing

952
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,960
that the board can consider as you

953
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,200
debate the budget moving forward the

954
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,040
next six to eight weeks is you'll

955
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,160
probably have a good idea uh in the next

956
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,760
6 to8 weeks if you got the

957
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,599
million-dollar grant from the state for

958
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:27,280
the New York Place application that that

959
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,520
um Emily and I worked on um that you're

960
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,000
familiar with and that maybe gives you

961
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,119
either a decision to go forward with a

962
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:36,560
little bit of drier and a little bit of

963
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,440
paparone or more progressive paparone

964
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,240
quicker or progress dryer quicker. It's

965
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,839
just that um the committee looked at a

966
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:48,319
variety of different things and they're

967
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:52,000
trying to look at shovel ready projects

968
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,079
and

969
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:56,160
I think

970
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,880
is can we move without changing the

971
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,720
entrance road? I mean there's a lot

972
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:02,560
>> that I mean we've we talked a little

973
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,240
league in February and March.

974
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:08,319
>> Yep. I'm here, you know, and so we gota,

975
00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:10,160
you know, there's other steps that need

976
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,240
I mean that that property sits a foot

977
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,720
below the level of the road. So there's

978
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,680
a lot of drainage and a lot of site work

979
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,200
that needs to be done to make it and and

980
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,119
Lella can do that, but

981
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:27,359
you know, I think that the committee I'm

982
00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:28,240
sorry, Dirk, go ahead.

983
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,480
>> Oh, no. I was just going to everybody

984
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,800
Dirk Andress, uh, chair of the CAC. I

985
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,160
just want to echo everything that Brian

986
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,760
said. So, we looked at all the potential

987
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,440
projects. We talked about it as a

988
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,559
committee and with the Grace Road idea,

989
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:41,920
we've had the opportunity to do

990
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,079
something on that land since 2006. So,

991
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:46,079
that's two generations that's lost that

992
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:47,839
we lost the opportunity to benefit.

993
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:49,520
Yeah. And so, when we looked at the

994
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,280
potential projects, we thought drier was

995
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,119
something that was shovel ready. We

996
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:54,800
already have a quote. We already have

997
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,480
well, we have preliminary designs, but

998
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,119
we have funding uh from Grock and others

999
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:00,640
that would help us get to that design

1000
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,200
stage. And once we have that picture, we

1001
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,480
can apply for grants which will even

1002
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,480
help us more. So we thought that was

1003
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,559
further down the road than when we're

1004
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:11,599
still brainstorming usage of a

1005
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:13,680
multi-million dollar project that when

1006
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,920
you add in the utilities, the drainage,

1007
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,119
the potential Anthony road signal and

1008
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,240
the complexity, 2027 did not seem

1009
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:23,920
feasible.

1010
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:31,109
That's what that's what we determined.

1011
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:33,280
With that, that's the information I have

1012
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,880
to share with you tonight. I certainly

1013
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,720
can answer more questions as you work

1014
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:40,160
yourself through the budget process over

1015
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,440
the next um couple months. Um I don't

1016
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,599
think the commitment from Jennese

1017
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:49,599
regional psych cyclist will go away. Um

1018
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:53,760
uh and certainly if um we can get

1019
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,880
something going with little league um

1020
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,000
quickly then we can have some ideas of

1021
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,960
budgets from Labella and

1022
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,240
know we can take action in 27.

1023
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,119
>> Very good.

1024
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:08,079
>> More questions for me?

1025
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:08,720
>> Thank you Brian.

1026
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:09,040
>> Thanks.

1027
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,319
>> Thank you. Appreciate your time.

1028
00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:11,280
>> Thank you Dirk.

1029
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,710
>> Thanks Dirk.

1030
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:21,990
Okay.

1031
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,160
Town board members, you have any

1032
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,280
committees [clears throat] you'd care to

1033
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,480
report on at this time?

1034
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,720
>> No, but I know prior to the board

1035
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,480
meeting starting, we were talking

1036
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,800
discussing Victor hiking trails. Do we

1037
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,040
need to continue that discussion with

1038
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,559
Ryan or hiking on the budget?

1039
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:43,990
No. Okay.

1040
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,240
Raymond, is that was there more to be

1041
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,359
added?

1042
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:55,190
>> I didn't mean to steal the mic from you.

1043
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,119
The only item in the operating budget

1044
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:59,680
related to trails that I didn't get to u

1045
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,079
beyond the um a formal agreement with

1046
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:05,119
Victor hiking trails is that right now

1047
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:08,240
Victor hiking trails has several

1048
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:10,960
um trail systems that are on revocable

1049
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,559
permit.

1050
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:15,599
And so it's a an agreement um with the

1051
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:17,440
private land owner and Victor hiking

1052
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,480
trails um for the system. I'll give you

1053
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,480
examples. Dominique Trail. There's a

1054
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,079
trail that runs on the Dominy, former

1055
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:26,319
Dominique property between the Auburn

1056
00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:29,200
and Lehi trails, which are public trails

1057
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,119
owned by the town or long-term

1058
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:33,440
easements. So, that's on a revocable

1059
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,760
permit that the land owner can revoke,

1060
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,000
meaning the trail goes away at their

1061
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,559
discretion. There's other ex there's

1062
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,960
several other examples. There's a trail

1063
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,280
that runs from the Stonington Ridge

1064
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,240
subdivision up to Dryer Road Park and

1065
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:49,760
there's three revocable permits that

1066
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,359
Victor Hiking Trails has um for that

1067
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:55,839
trail. So, it's not right now other than

1068
00:51:55,839 --> 00:51:59,040
that permit to VHT, it's not permanently

1069
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,599
in in the public domain like many of our

1070
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:05,599
other trails where we got either a trail

1071
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:07,200
easement

1072
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,960
from our Gene when we constructed the

1073
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,960
Auburn Trail and just recently updated

1074
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,559
or it comes through the planning process

1075
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:16,720
like with James that was here earlier

1076
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:19,920
and BME and and Christa and we get a

1077
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,000
trail easement. So these can be revoked.

1078
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,640
Helen's Helen's Way trail up in uh

1079
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,280
Village on the Park. So with Victor

1080
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,160
hiking trails, we looked at the variety

1081
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,920
of different revocable permits that we

1082
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,000
current that they currently have that

1083
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,000
could go away but are highly valued

1084
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,000
trails because they have either

1085
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,400
colllocated with a town park, they're

1086
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,119
connected to existing townowned trails.

1087
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,680
Um and so we wanted to start setting

1088
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,359
some goals of changing these revocable

1089
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:55,839
permits into permanent easements so they

1090
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:58,400
stay in the public domain. Now typically

1091
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,960
these are lowcost easements. Okay. The

1092
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,880
cost is in um usually you have to get a

1093
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,359
survey. So you know have to understand

1094
00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:11,280
the meats and bounds. You are typically

1095
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,599
going to do a valuation of it. So you do

1096
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:17,520
some um research. You can hire uh a

1097
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,960
person that has a real estate license,

1098
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,480
your attorney to get comps of similar

1099
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,040
sections. And then there's a legal

1100
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,520
agreement that's created.

1101
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,520
It would be it would be good in in next

1102
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,640
year. I put $12,000 in the operating

1103
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,880
budget to start progressing these some

1104
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,599
of these high priority easements so they

1105
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:40,319
can stay within the public domain.

1106
00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:44,160
Okay? so that then not only can they be

1107
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,680
used by our residents um to enjoy um a

1108
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,559
walk in the woods but then public funds

1109
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:52,960
can also be utilized for their ongoing

1110
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,160
maintenance and care and management. So

1111
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,160
because we have several of them and

1112
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,079
because of the concern of our department

1113
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:04,480
as well as the executive board of Victor

1114
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,359
hiking trails is that our residents and

1115
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:10,240
our visitors just look at it as a trail.

1116
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:11,760
They just want to use the trail. They

1117
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,520
want to get from point A to point B or

1118
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,920
they want to experience nature and a

1119
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,000
walk in the woods and they don't think

1120
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,240
who owns the property unless the

1121
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,160
property is not allowed to be used

1122
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,680
during hunting season where they have

1123
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,960
some revocable permits. So when then it

1124
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,559
stops getting maintained when it goes

1125
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:30,960
back reverts back to the private land

1126
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,520
owner because right now these folks over

1127
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,920
here to my right are maintaining it.

1128
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,400
Okay. So our goal is just to do what we

1129
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,240
had done with the Auburn Trail Corridor

1130
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:45,599
is acquire those easements so it then

1131
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:48,319
stays in the public domain for its

1132
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:51,839
period of probable usefulness. So we'd

1133
00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:55,359
like to progress some of those.

1134
00:54:55,359 --> 00:54:59,599
Brian, do we have a map um of the town

1135
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:01,839
and including the village of all of the

1136
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:04,640
trails highlighting who owns them and

1137
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,200
who maintains them? We have we have a

1138
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,680
map of town and village owned trails.

1139
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:10,240
>> Okay.

1140
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,119
>> Um Victor hiking trails has a map system

1141
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,599
that combines the two I believe that has

1142
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:18,720
both basically lands that are trails

1143
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:20,160
within the town, trails within the

1144
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,520
village plus Victor hiking trails

1145
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,760
has those that are on revotable permit.

1146
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,839
>> I if I give you guys my card, would you

1147
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:32,079
mind sending it to me?

1148
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,480
>> Is it okay? I will. Thank you. And

1149
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,800
there's some maps in your in your um

1150
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,440
those maps that I put um show where the

1151
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,480
existing trails are that are that are on

1152
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,280
some of the high priority easements that

1153
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,400
we should progress as a community.

1154
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,440
So it's large it's largely the legal

1155
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,760
work and the um um paperwork associated

1156
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,280
with

1157
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,920
obtaining these. These typically aren't

1158
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,160
highcost easements.

1159
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,240
um the value is is pretty low because

1160
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,799
it's typically not developable land

1161
00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:12,400
within that parcel

1162
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,319
>> and would we do that through our town

1163
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:16,960
attorney or we would fund Victor hiking

1164
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,680
trails to do that work on their own?

1165
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,599
>> I would say you would do it as a town.

1166
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:23,280
Someone needs to manage

1167
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,680
>> and and move those along. Someone needs

1168
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,280
to work with with the town attorney,

1169
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,559
work with the realtor, work with the um

1170
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:34,480
survey crew, and then meet with the land

1171
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,280
owner if there's any negotiation back

1172
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,240
and forth.

1173
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:38,640
>> Okay.

1174
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,440
>> And then the transfer once the once the

1175
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,839
easement once it's acquired, then it

1176
00:56:43,839 --> 00:56:48,160
goes into management and maintenance.

1177
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:48,720
>> Thank you.

1178
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:53,589
>> You're welcome. Any other questions?

1179
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:53,920
» Thanks.

1180
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,750
>> Thank you.

1181
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,480
No board members. Uh

1182
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,440
any committees you care to report on at

1183
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,349
this time?

1184
00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:09,200
Moving to the resolutions. We have a

1185
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,359
walk-in resolution that should have been

1186
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:14,720
at your place setting. This is the again

1187
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:16,240
acknowledgement of the resignation of

1188
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,480
Jenna Wernern from the full-time deputy

1189
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,760
town clerk's position effective today.

1190
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,359
>> Okay, we have first. Do we have a

1191
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:25,200
second? Second.

1192
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,400
>> All those in favor?

1193
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,319
>> I I

1194
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:31,119
>> resol. Resolution number two is

1195
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:32,960
resolution supported the New York

1196
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,680
Association of Towns Bill of Rights.

1197
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,119
>> Second.

1198
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:38,720
>> All those in favor?

1199
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,319
>> I.

1200
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:42,480
>> Number three is a resolution scheduling

1201
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,720
an eminent domain public hearing for

1202
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,960
property acquisition.

1203
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,390
>> So move.

1204
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,400
» Second.

1205
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,680
All those in favor?

1206
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,480
>> I I

1207
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,040
>> Number four, authorizing the engagement

1208
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,119
of Gleon Strategies.

1209
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:01,839
>> So moved.

1210
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,760
>> Second.

1211
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,280
>> All those in favor?

1212
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,270
>> I.

1213
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,240
» Number five is amending the resolution

1214
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,240
um number 37 back in 2025 for Tenco plow

1215
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,839
equipment for the installation on a 2025

1216
00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:23,760
freight lane. So moved. Second.

1217
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:24,880
>> All those in favor?

1218
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,520
>> I

1219
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,720
>> number six amending resolution again

1220
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,799
number 65 of 2025 for additional plow

1221
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:36,000
equipment. So move

1222
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,480
>> second.

1223
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,880
>> And this is a piece of equipment uh

1224
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,960
instead of sending to the auction, we're

1225
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,640
going to retain the 2015 Western Star to

1226
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,760
be utilized as a spare truck.

1227
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,400
All those in favor? I I

1228
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,839
>> Mark, is that the one we have to store

1229
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:56,799
outside now?

1230
00:58:56,799 --> 00:58:58,559
>> Well, we'll see if we can get it. The

1231
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:00,400
plan is to put it inside somewhere. Yes.

1232
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:00,799
Right now,

1233
00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:02,720
>> if we can finangle it inside, we're

1234
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,839
finangling inside.

1235
00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:04,160
>> Correct.

1236
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,839
>> But if we can't, it's something's going

1237
00:59:05,839 --> 00:59:06,319
outside.

1238
00:59:06,319 --> 00:59:06,720
>> Correct.

1239
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,440
>> Okay. Thank you.

1240
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,000
Number seven is the authorization to

1241
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,880
purchase a 2027 Western Star rolloff

1242
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,160
truck and tradein 2016 model for the

1243
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,200
transfer station.

1244
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,839
>> So moved.

1245
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:21,440
>> Second.

1246
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,799
>> All those in favor?

1247
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:24,720
>> I

1248
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,960
the finance department authorizing the

1249
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,280
town supervisor execute an equipment

1250
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,200
lease agreement with the Victor Fire

1251
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:31,920
District.

1252
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,920
>> So moved. Second.

1253
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,599
>> All those in favor? I

1254
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:38,160
>> I

1255
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,880
>> number nine is amending the 2026 budget

1256
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,359
to include the purchase of drier road

1257
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:45,359
playground surface.

1258
00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:46,079
>> Moved second.

1259
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:47,680
>> Second.

1260
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,200
>> All those in favor?

1261
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,119
>> I

1262
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:52,720
number 10 out of the parks and

1263
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,240
recreation Brian Ays uh summer concert

1264
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:56,640
moved

1265
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,319
>> second.

1266
00:59:58,319 --> 00:59:59,839
>> All those in favor?

1267
00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:01,359
>> I.

1268
01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:03,920
Number 11, again, summer concert,

1269
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,359
Frederick Seager.

1270
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:06,000
>> Moved.

1271
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,839
>> Second.

1272
01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:11,200
>> All those in favor?

1273
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,480
>> Number 12, Girls on the Run, uh, youth

1274
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:15,280
running program.

1275
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:15,760
>> Moved.

1276
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,079
>> Second.

1277
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:19,760
>> All those in favor?

1278
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,720
>> I.

1279
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,440
>> And number 13, certificate of liability

1280
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,160
waiver.

1281
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,119
>> Moved. Second.

1282
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:28,640
>> Second.

1283
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,960
>> All those in favor? I

1284
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,480
>> number 14 is a letter of credit. This is

1285
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,359
related to Bluemont Rise subdivision.

1286
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:41,280
It's a final release as well as the

1287
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,200
dedication and acceptance of the

1288
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:43,920
maintenance bond.

1289
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,319
>> All good on the road mark.

1290
01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:47,599
>> Yes. All good.

1291
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:48,400
>> So moved.

1292
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:49,920
>> Second.

1293
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,359
>> All those in favor?

1294
01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:52,799
>> I.

1295
01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:56,559
>> At this time, public comment. We'll ask

1296
01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:58,799
it.

1297
01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:01,280
No one. Oh,

1298
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,720
any members of the our audience care to

1299
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,870
address the town board?

1300
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,280
Okay,

1301
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:16,319
board members, I do need a

1302
01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:18,240
motion to go on executive session under

1303
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,040
rule number two, financial credit and

1304
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,640
unemployment history of particular

1305
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,160
persons,

1306
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,720
town board members and our newly

1307
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,200
appointed town clerk Kim Canella and

1308
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,319
board members. Before I do, you have the

1309
01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:35,119
need for our two councils attorneys that

1310
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,839
we met with prior to uh the board

1311
01:01:37,839 --> 01:01:38,960
meeting. No,

1312
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,599
>> no, no.

1313
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:42,960
>> So,

1314
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,280
>> and as far as the public, um we will

1315
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,640
adjourn following this uh executive

1316
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,319
session. All those in favor?

1317
01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:54,950
>> I I

1318
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,960
Let's