[0:21] Today at City Council during the day, we have five
[0:24] sets of minutes to consider, as well as two bylaws
[0:27] for preliminary readings and adoption and one item of closed
[0:30] business. But of course, before we begin our work together,
[0:33] we always want to take a moment to pause and
[0:36] reflect and express our gratitude and recognition to the two
[0:41] nations on whose territories are City sits in its entirety.
[0:44] The co - opsum nation and the Songhees Nation. These
[0:47] two nations and there are multiple families and members have
[0:51] for hundreds of years, many, many generations taking it upon
[0:55] themselves to pay special attention to the lands on which
[0:59] we all operate and live and play and work, and
[1:03] the waters that surround them as well. And in so
[1:06] doing, they have created the opportunity for us to do
[1:08] the work that we do here in these halls, in
[1:11] the city council and in the city itself, and all
[1:14] of our neighbourhoods and homes when we're lucky enough to
[1:16] have them. And when we have the opportunity to work
[1:19] with our colleagues, our friends, our families, and all of
[1:22] our residents together, hopefully making decisions that have respect for
[1:26] the past and acknowledgment of it, as well as a
[1:29] willingness, a courage to confront the issues that are with
[1:32] us today and thought, of course, for the future and
[1:34] all the things that will come in the days, weeks,
[1:38] and years ahead. The nations themselves have done that type
[1:41] of work for so many years. We can only admire
[1:44] their resilience. Hope to learn from it and appreciate the
[1:47] continuing collegiality and willingness that they have to work with
[1:50] us. And to help us learn together as we make
[1:53] the mutual and individual decisions that we make for the
[1:56] benefit of our residents, indigenous and non - Indigenous alike.
[2:01] With that, we like to say thank you in their
[2:03] language, and that is to say, hi, Chica or Hichukasium,
[2:05] Nicolia. And that is to just say thank you to
[2:08] offer a bit of respect to all of the leaders,
[2:11] individuals, alike throughout the community who each day make a
[2:15] decision to do one thing, perhaps one very small thing,
[2:19] which changes the way someone else lives their life hopefully
[2:22] for the better. So with that, let's hope that that
[2:24] is our goal too. And we say hi, Tricka CM
[2:26] Nicole. I made some remarks earlier today, just reflecting a
[2:33] little bit on the passing of Gloria Steinem. I won't
[2:35] repeat those, but I would urge folks to look at
[2:37] them earlier today if they're interested. And iconic figure for
[2:40] many of us of a certain age and interest, and
[2:44] certainly for those of us who spent many, many years
[2:47] working the Community of Women's Rights and the rights of
[2:51] other equity seeking equity deserving people. It is a sad
[2:55] day indeed to note her passing. I'm not aware of
[3:00] any late items that need to be brought to council
[3:02] today. And so we will look first to an approval
[3:05] of the agenda. First, I'm going to ask to move
[3:06] it, I'm going to ask to amend it. So if
[3:08] we could first have a motion to approve the distributed
[3:11] agenda, thanks Councillor Coleman seconded by Councillor Caradona. And then
[3:15] I would just suggest that we amend the daytime Council
[3:19] meeting to include the Council Member Motion that was adopted
[3:22] a little earlier ago, and I believe this would be
[3:24] an item G1AA under the report from the September 3rd
[3:30] Committee of the Whole. So if I could ask someone
[3:32] to make that amendment. Thanks, Councillor Cardona, segment by Council
[3:36] Coleman. Just on the amendment of adding that item for
[3:39] same day consideration, any comments. Oh, all those in favor.
[3:43] Anyone opposed? That is unanimous. So then that gives us
[3:47] the amended agenda. So I'd ask if there are any
[3:50] comments on that. I'm now unmentinda. So with amendment passed,
[3:56] now we're voting on the amended agenda. All those in
[3:57] favor, anyone opposed is also unanimous. So one or consent
[4:04] agenda, there are a number of items. They're actually all
[4:06] minutes. I'll just read them for the information of the
[4:08] public. So under item E, the consent agenda, the proposals
[4:12] for inclusion on the consent agenda are item F1. The
[4:15] minutes from the Council, Datum Council meeting of June 18th,
[4:19] F2, the minutes from the daytime council meeting of June
[4:21] 25th. Item F3, the minutes from the daytime council meeting
[4:25] of July 2nd. Item F4, the minutes from the daytime
[4:29] council meeting of July the 9th. And item F5, the
[4:32] minutes from the daytime council meeting of July 16th. Does
[4:36] anyone have any concern with those and wishes to remove
[4:38] any of them? Or does anyone wish to add anything
[4:41] to the consent agenda? I was thinking that perhaps that
[4:45] last CMM, but it was not unanimous, so we will
[4:46] not add that. I'm not seeing any concerns with those
[4:49] five sets of minutes being consent, which if someone liked
[4:52] to move the consent agenda, thanks Councillor Coleman, seconded by
[4:55] Councillor Loughton, all those in favor of the consent agenda.
[4:58] Anyone opposed? That is unanimous. That would take us on
[5:04] to item F. This would be, in fact, the consideration
[5:06] of minutes, but as we just noted, all five of
[5:08] those sets of minutes were added to the consent agenda
[5:11] and approved. And just as a reminder, when an item
[5:14] is approved, uh, at Council Daytime Council, it is a
[5:17] final consideration. Uh, as it no longer needs to come
[5:20] to any future meetings. And so all five sets of
[5:22] those minutes have been improved finally. And we'll become part
[5:25] of the record. That takes us on to item G,
[5:28] reports of committees. Uh, this would be the one report
[5:30] from the September 3rd Committee of the Whole that we
[5:33] dealt with earlier today. Originally, there were no items that
[5:36] were considered needing same day consideration. However, uh, the late
[5:41] item that was brought forward as a council member motion
[5:44] was adopted. And so that can, in fact, and was
[5:47] added to the agenda as item GOANA. I believe that
[5:51] is correct, all being along on the screen. There you
[5:54] go. And that's the one it was amended. And so,
[5:58] uh, there is that version that is now on the
[6:00] screen as the final amendment. Are you okay, Council Cole?
[6:03] Very good. Okay. And so if someone would like to
[6:06] move that, Councillor Kim, if you're with us, would you
[6:08] like to move that motion? Thank you. Is there a
[6:10] second over that motion? Councillor Cardona III. Uh, I will
[6:13] ask Councillor's Kim and Caradona if they have anything to
[6:16] add. Although we were just discussing this a few minutes
[6:18] ago. Councillor Cam is shaking her head. No. Council Gerda
[6:21] on a no. Any other comments on this one before
[6:23] we vote on it. Uh, we just did have a
[6:26] fairly robust conversation about this not too long ago. So
[6:29] that's understandable. Uh, with that. And that was at committee
[6:32] for anyone who'd like to watch that. With that, I
[6:34] will see these moved in second. I didn't ask for
[6:36] a vote. All those in favor. That's in favor, Councillor
[6:40] Dell, Councillor Kim, Council Cardona, Councillor Loughton, myself, Councillor Hammond.
[6:47] Culture Thompson. Are you with us? Yes, I'm councillor Thompson.
[6:49] Thank you. And opposition, Councillor Coleman and Councillor Gardner. So
[6:53] noting to an opposition, not motion is adopted. And again,
[6:57] as we are daytime counsel, that's a final decision. And
[7:00] so we will get that executed very quickly. Uh, then
[7:03] the hexas on to ByLAws. There are, as I mentioned
[7:06] before two bylaws, the first one under H1. This is
[7:10] a bit unusual. It requires rescinding a third reading, amending
[7:14] the third reading. Again, this is for the byle offer
[7:19] 2501 through 2699 Blendtreet Street, 825 and 841 Hillside Avenue,
[7:25] 2500 through 2684 dollar place and 900K's Road. These are
[7:30] for the rezoning applications for the same addresses as well
[7:34] as a number of other regulations. I am going to
[7:37] ask staff just to briefly explain why this is here
[7:41] and what exactly we are doing. This is an item
[7:44] that we have considered previously and for the most part
[7:47] approved. So what are we doing here today? Mr. Handy.
[7:51] Thanks Meroral to. I'm going to invite my colleague Patrick
[7:55] Carls Sr. Planet to come up and speak to this
[7:57] home. Fantastic. Welcome.
[8:12] Look at Mr. Carroll. Please explain to us why this
[8:14] is here again today and what we're actually considering. Good
[8:19] afternoon, Mayor and all of council. So just for the
[8:25] record, Patrick Carroll, senior planner, development services. Uh, before you
[8:29] today is the adoption of a site - specific amendment
[8:32] to the zoning regulation bylaw for the property known as
[8:35] evergreen terrorists. The proposal is for a phased redevelopment. Of
[8:40] the site, which would replace all 196 existing units. And
[8:45] add approximately 700 new rental units. The proposal includes nine
[8:51] buildings. In a mix of high and mid - rise
[8:54] forms. As noted in your update report, the approved CD
[8:59] zone. Set a density for the entire site of 2.
[9:03] 6 to one FSR. However, it has been determined that
[9:08] the maximum floor area for each development area is required
[9:12] to enable future subdivisions. There is no change to the
[9:17] proposal or the maximum permitted density across the site. The
[9:21] recommended motion includes language to rescind, re - approve and
[9:24] adopt the amended CD zone. And therefore attachments to show
[9:29] track change of the comparison. In addition, the applicant has
[9:34] met the condition to register the MDA prior to bylaw
[9:38] adoption. However, two commitments in the MDA requires some updates
[9:42] for councils awareness. First, the resolution included a commitment of
[9:48] two 21 supportive housing units to be operated by the
[9:51] Aboriginal coalition to end homelessness. During MDA discussions, the applicant
[9:57] clarified that they could not commit to a specific operator
[10:00] in the long term, um, as it is in agreement.
[10:03] And the two parties. Although the intention is for no
[10:06] change to the operator. Second, the resolution included a commitment
[10:11] that at least 70 percent of the residential units would
[10:15] have access to a usable private outdoor space. The applicant
[10:19] requested that the MDA allows some flexibility to include a
[10:23] Juliet balcony. Staff added language to require due consideration to
[10:29] the design guidelines that do encourage these private outdoor spaces.
[10:36] It should be noted that the first phase of development
[10:40] has been approved and actually far exceeds the 110 units
[10:49] lacking a private outdoor space. And that's about 95 percent.
[10:53] And there are no Juliet balconies proposed in phase one.
[10:57] And that's, that, that's everything covered in the report. And
[11:00] I can take your questions at this time. Right. Thank
[11:02] you. Are there any questions for Mr. Carroll. Council Cardona
[11:07] and you're going to Councillor Garden. Security? I just, just
[11:12] one clarification. I'm just trying to remember. So we had
[11:13] done for a second and third before and we're ascending
[11:17] third, but we hadn't done final adoption before. Is that
[11:19] correct? Yes. That's due to the mayor. That's happening today.
[11:23] Yeah. That's, that is correct. We hadn't done adoption because
[11:26] the condition was that the MDA had to be completed,
[11:29] executed and registered. And that has happened. Okay. So are
[11:32] we able to do third and final adoption on the
[11:34] same day. Through the mayor, yes, I did consult internally
[11:39] with legal and confirm that that was possible in this
[11:42] case. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Councillor Gardner questions.
[11:47] Just a couple. Okay. When I read the document you
[11:51] gave to us. So they're going to be divided up
[11:54] the lots. Of through to the mirror. As of now,
[11:59] we are aware of five development areas and those were
[12:02] communicated through the Committee of the whole report is developed
[12:04] in areas through the discussions. It became clear the applicant
[12:08] was intending to subdivide, uh, which is what has led
[12:11] to this correction. And so effectively we don't know what
[12:16] lots. They'll ultimately subdivide, but at least we know that
[12:19] the five development areas will be their own parcels. Will
[12:23] BC housing continue to own all parcels or is there
[12:26] an intent to sell. Through to the mayor, uh, it's
[12:29] been made clear from the applicant that there is no,
[12:31] uh, intention to divest of any of the provincial lands.
[12:35] And it's part of the PRP program. So the provincial
[12:38] redevelopment program. That is the funding source for this development.
[12:41] And it does stipulate that lands must be remain in
[12:44] the province's hands. Great. Now, with the separation and the
[12:50] alteration of the MDA for each parcel is developed. Are
[12:54] we going to rung to something like we did at
[12:56] the Bayview and Roundhouse with coming back for whole redevelopment
[13:01] type of applications? Cause I thought all that was rather
[13:06] taken care of. Uh, through to the mayor, if I
[13:08] am understanding your question correctly, um, the intention is that
[13:12] this will not return to council for a rezoning in
[13:15] the future. And this is part of the correction today
[13:17] is to ensure they can subdivide in the future and
[13:20] not create a density problem that would lead them to
[13:23] return to council. And our intention is to not have
[13:26] to reopen the MDA again as well. That being said
[13:29] future phases will definitely need a development permit. It may
[13:33] be delegated depending on the details, the level of affordability.
[13:36] Um, and some other factors as well. But it may
[13:40] return to council as a development permit regulating form and
[13:43] character for a given phase. And there could be variances
[13:46] triggered as well. Um, but not, um, the intention is
[13:49] to not return to revisit the MDA or the zoning.
[13:53] Right. Thank you very much for your report. No problem.
[13:55] Thank you. Any other questions on this? Just checking online.
[13:59] Councillor Kim. Thank you through the chair. So did I
[14:04] hear correctly that none of the Juliet balcony door space
[14:09] access is for phase one. Ms. Carroll. Uh, through the
[14:14] mayor. Thank you for that question. Uh, so there is
[14:17] no immediate intention to utilise Juliet balconies in any of
[14:21] the designs, but reality is the only design that we've
[14:24] seen and that the applicant has done is phase one.
[14:26] But we can confirm that there are no Juliet balconies
[14:29] at all in the first phase. And we won't know
[14:31] about future phases until they apply for that development permit.
[14:36] Okay. Thanks. Has there been any consideration about how, um,
[14:41] okay. Here's, sorry, let me rephrase. Folks who are going
[14:45] to be populating phase one are the current tenets of
[14:48] evergreen terrorists who have been temporarily displaced, right? That is
[14:54] correct. Um, the first phase is 110 units in total.
[14:58] So it will allow for options for occupying up to
[15:03] 110 of the 196 that it currently, uh, exists, uh,
[15:08] on the land. Uh, so it would be the first
[15:11] two phases that would be intended to accommodate those that
[15:16] are currently living on the site. My concern is that,
[15:23] uh, folks who had previous access to green space as
[15:27] one of the original tenants, um, are, are losing that,
[15:31] especially given that face one is confirmed to not have,
[15:34] uh, things like balconies. What direction or assurance is or
[15:40] any procedural steps, would you advise in order to try
[15:45] to encourage or affirm outdoor access in phase two. Uh,
[15:51] girls? Thank you for the question and through to the
[15:53] mayor, um, just one clarification. They're in the first phase,
[15:57] which is approved, uh, in principle at this point, uh,
[16:01] it did not include any Juliet balconies and only five
[16:04] of the 110 are lacking a balcony. And I should
[16:09] note that all phases of development through the MDA secured
[16:13] common amenity space that is outdoor as well as indoor.
[16:17] Um, and now phase two, um, we just don't know
[16:20] what's being proposed yet, uh, but the MDA will be
[16:24] required common amenity space in phase two, both outdoor and
[16:29] indoor. And also, um, at least as well, so there
[16:38] is some assurance, um, but a lot of it would
[16:40] come down if there is a proposal for, say, a
[16:43] higher number of juliet balconies in phase two. We would
[16:46] utilise the development permit guidelines to try to emphasize the
[16:50] importance of these private outdoor spaces. Thank you. Thank you
[16:55] very much. Any other questions. Not sing any other questions.
[17:01] Someone like to move this particular recommendation. Wait, we already
[17:04] moved it? Yes. No Councillor Cardona and Councillor Coleman. Any
[17:09] comments. Coleman. Maybe just briefly, thank you to staff for,
[17:13] for finalising the bylaws and the resentment and bring it
[17:17] back. I think we've all had a chance to motivate
[17:20] on this in the past, but this is going to
[17:23] be the biggest affordable housing development. I think in Vancouver
[17:25] Island's history, I don't know of any that are bigger
[17:27] than this. So it's, it's going to be really, really
[17:29] transformative and I think in a positive way for Quadril
[17:32] side and for downtown and for the community as a
[17:35] whole. So I'm really appreciative that BC housing given, even
[17:39] given all these fiscal constraints, is willing to keep moving
[17:41] forward with phase one. And at least based on my
[17:43] reading of the staff report, it sounds like they might
[17:46] start work relatively soon. Maybe I'll just put that as
[17:49] a final question. It looked like phase one might be
[17:51] done in like two or three years, which implies that
[17:53] starting soon. So do we have a sense of timelines.
[17:56] Thank you for the question. And through to the mayor,
[17:59] uh, so, uh, the very speedy timeline being planned by
[18:03] BC housing at this time. It's part of the rush
[18:05] to, um, proceed and finish the master development agreement as
[18:09] quickly as it did. Effectively, the fences up now, they've
[18:13] received their demolition permit for the first phase. And they
[18:17] will immediately go into construction. I understand it as soon
[18:21] as the demolition is complete. So phase, I don't know
[18:23] what the timing to finish it is, but it should
[18:25] be underway early, early to mid fall. And has everyone
[18:29] been rehoused who's being displaced by the redevelopment? Yes. To
[18:34] my understanding, everybody was, uh, has been moved out of
[18:37] the first phase. And I'm not, I'm not privy to
[18:39] the exact details, but they have all moved out to
[18:42] alternative accommodations. And they would be, of course, offered in
[18:47] the new building when it is. Right. Ready. Thanks, Olivia
[18:50] there. Thanks, Mary. Thanks, Mr. Coleman. And I think that
[18:53] not much to add other than thanks to the applicants
[18:56] and to the staff for actually making this move by
[19:00] relative standards fairly quickly. Indeed. That's right. Um, Ms. Kingsley,
[19:05] can we bundle all four of these together? There's no
[19:07] prohibition and just doing rescinding, removing, reconsidering, all that stuff.
[19:12] As council wishes to proceed, mayor. Of course. I love
[19:14] that answer. Uh, I'm going to speak on behalf of
[19:17] Council to say we'd like to bundle this altogether. Uh,
[19:19] and it has been moved in second, um, with any
[19:22] other comments on the whole bundle. I would just want
[19:25] to add that, uh, I think this has been and
[19:28] will be one of the most exciting projects I think
[19:31] this council has had an opportunity to, um, be involved
[19:33] in. And wow, I can't wait to see it start.
[19:37] And, uh, it's just, it is going to be transformational
[19:40] and a really intentional way. And just want to express
[19:42] my appreciation to all of the partners and to our
[19:45] staff for assisting and continuing to make it move as
[19:48] fast as possible. So thank you all. With that, then
[19:51] all in favor, anyone opposed. On is unanimous. Thank you
[19:56] very much for that. And that takes us on to
[20:00] the other bylaw that's before us today. This is an
[20:02] adoption of a housing agreement for 2612 266 2620 and
[20:07] 2620 Richmond Road. There's somebody to move that please. Thanks
[20:11] Council Caradona, seconded by Councillor Coleman, Councillor Caradon, any comments.
[20:16] Oh, Councillor Coleman, any comments. Any comments from anyone else.
[20:20] Not seeing any other comments, all those in favor. Anyone
[20:23] opposed. That is unanimous. That does take us on then
[20:28] to new business, none of which I'm aware that need
[20:30] to be added today. So we are now at a
[20:32] place in our daytime council where we have one matter
[20:34] to consider enclosed. And so Mr. Kingsley, would you like
[20:37] to remind Council and the public please of the sections
[20:39] of the Community Charter that either require or enable us
[20:42] to consider a matter enclosed? Certainly Mayor. The reasons proposed
[20:46] to close the meeting today are under section 91 F
[20:48] of the Community Charter regarding law enforcement matter. And Section
[20:52] 92B regarding the consideration of information received and held in
[20:56] confidence related to negotiations between the municipality and another level
[20:59] of government. Thank you very much for those reasons. May
[21:02] have motion to going to close. Thanks, Councillor Coleman. Second
[21:04] to my councillor Dell. Any discussion. Seeing none, all those
[21:08] in favor. Anyone opposed. That is unanimous. I just read
[21:12] the information to the public. We do not have an
[21:13] evening meeting tonight. And so the next time you will
[21:16] see us, we'll be next week at 9 a. m.
[21:18] for Committee of the Whole, followed by Dayton Council. Have
[21:22] a lovely week. We will take just a five minutes
[21:24] to allow staff to move us into closed and to
[21:27] test our brand new curtains. So let us resume at
[21:31] three o'clock.