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What's that?

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Reminder to turn on your microphone

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and we'll call this meeting uh August

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24th meeting of the board of trustees

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order. Please rise for the pledge. I

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pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» At this time, um, we will allow public

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comment. We've found uh the past few

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meetings that sometimes our public

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comment has been half an hour long per

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person and it makes for a very long

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meeting. So, we're um we are restricting

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tonight our public comment to five

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minutes. And when you're recognized,

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please go to the microphone, state your

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name, uh any organization you're

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associated with, and your residence. Um

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that is for the uh village clerk's

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information and uh other than that we

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look forward to hearing from you. So

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first bold person

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no one has any public comment tonight.

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>> Hello my name is Kyla. I'm here with

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the robot

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um is with us from Ukraine. We're a

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design team that's been brought on by

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Kissan Main Street Partners. Oh yeah. Um

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we Kissan Main Street partners recently

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purchased three uh vacant buildings on

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Main Street. We are refacing the

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buildings that have been through the

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historic committee. We have achieved

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certificates of appropriateness for all

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three buildings for the facade

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renovations.

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and Dick from zoning suggested we come

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in and um inform everyone what the

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development for the interior is. So on

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one of the buildings of Nicolletas which

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will have new apartments upstairs for

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yearround uh ideally for people who are

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working on Main Street in some of these

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projects. The next building is adjacent

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to the beverage exchange. is used to be

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a card shop and and I think short south.

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Um those will have retail or office

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space on the ground floor and renovated

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apartments above and those are both

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scheduled to get new windows and siding

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done in the fall and then CVS which is a

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really exciting one. Um, we're hoping to

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do the facade renovations this fall, if

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not early spring, hoping to be able to

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house the Cookertown Farmers Market

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potentially uh as the Hoff and Lane

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project happens in the same schedules.

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And that's going to be retail

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uh year round ideally. And this right

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now what I'm sharing is our current

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development

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uh concept development. And we're hoping

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to have multiple

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um spaces that showcase local and

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regional

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art, crafts, products, as well as a

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place for uh people who are in the

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farmers market on Saturday afternoons to

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then bring their products to. So they're

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available to buy all week long without

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having to take those home, including a

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potential cafe that then uses the

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products farmers market to cook the food

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with a a small stage and venue so that

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there can be music and other

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programming. And then the interior has

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flexible space that can be used for

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Christmas markets or other kind of

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events like the town picnic at the range

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or kind of flex space. So, that's that's

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where we're at with the development now,

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and we'll probably be back as needed. Uh, we're hoping to do

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scaffolding on the renovation on the

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facades

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um later in the fall or early in the

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spring when there's uh list to disrupt

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and won't be taking any parking spaces

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to do. Um, and I know that there's a a

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water tying some of the things that

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we'll be dealing with as it progresses,

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but this is our first unofficial

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introduction to all the rumors that it's

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a nightclub wear of baseball t-shirt

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shop doing Main Street.

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>> This I was going to say we you have time

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and I'll let any of the trustees ask

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questions.

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So just from a from a zoning perspective

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in each case the first floor the

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sidewalk is going to be a public office

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retail restaurant

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>> in all cases and then I believe there's

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five apartments above and four above the

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bar shops that are currently underway

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getting renovated for yearround housing.

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>> Great.

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>> And trustees have any other questions?

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>> Above the market hall there's not going

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to be apartments. Sto Market Hall above

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it. There's nothing that have that

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facade. Um I mean ideally maybe someday

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the building can structurally have

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something nice up there. The the owners

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were very interested in bringing like a

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public theater to the town. Uh doing

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something that had a large space. But I

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my guess is that that's a possibility

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for wait right now. We can get this all

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ready for spring for the farmers market

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um move. That's our goal.

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>> It has an amazing basement.

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>> It does ceiling height. I mean,

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>> are you seeking any public financing for

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any of these?

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>> I think this is a way for the owners to

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kind of invest in the community.

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» Any other questions?

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>> There's a lot to digest. Thank you.

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>> Thank you for sharing the printed copy.

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We saw it when it went to uh the zoning

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board. So,

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>> you have any questions or wants

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involvement? You can reach out anytime

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and I can present whatever is

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interested.

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>> Thank you, Kyla. Appreciate that.

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» Is there anyone else who has public

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comment tonight?

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If not, I I will be closing the public

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comment section of the meeting and we

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will begin our business. So, no other

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comments. Okay,

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public comment session closed.

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Correspondence.

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Um, on your additional agenda, you all

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probably saw this email from Jan

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Kusminsky regarding concerns with

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overcrowding at village parks. Uh, that

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will be uh referred to parks. I did

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because it came as an email. Um, I tend

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to respond and she was very

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appreciative. I pointed out that we'd

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recognize that in particular with um

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Glimmerclass State Park closing for now

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almost three weeks um due to harmful

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algo blooms that um there were a lot of

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people who wanted to use the lake that

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then went to three mile and fairy

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spring. So we did kind of get um

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inundated that park had certainly state

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park had been closed previously but

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perhaps the weather hadn't been quite as

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wonderful in those years. So we did put

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up um sandwich board signs. We quickly

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ordered signs and um the park caretakers

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at both very spring and 3M had the

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ability once the parking spaces were

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filled and they really reached capacity

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to close the park and that did help

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curtail that a bit but it was a bit of

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an onslaught but that'll be addressed at

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Uh that was our only correspondence. We

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have two public hearings today um which

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will be opened at 6:30, proposed local

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law number four to amend the section um

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of our smoking and vaping law and

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proposed local law number five to amend

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a section of our zoning law relative to

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temporary use permits.

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uh approve the minutes of our regular

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July 27th meeting by um Molly. I will

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second and I should add with corrections

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submitted because I know we did submit

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some corrections. All in favor? I

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>> as well as our August 10th special

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meeting with corrections submitted. I'll

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make that motion. Seconded by Cindy. All

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in favor?

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» Permits. We have an email from Tom Sing

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requesting that vending be extended

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until 300 p.m. in the Double Day Field

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parking lot for next year's Hall of Fame

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induction.

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And I think you've all read it. Um

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it actually came up at breakfast with

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the board this morning that u particular

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vendor. So I can refer this um to the

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double day committee. Um unless uh any

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trustees have a comment they'd like to

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go with that.

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>> Just a clarification that so that this

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would be the second day of vending.

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>> The third day third day of vending.

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day or just the last day. This is the

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last day.

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>> Yeah. A lot of people do not bend on

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Sunday because people theoretically are

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maybe down at the Clark Sports Center

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for the induction.

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>> But he found you wanted to. So that it

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will be referred to uh double day

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committee.

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We have uh an application to use village

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property village streets from Kristen

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Griger uh for the growing community for

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our annual harvest supper plan for

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Sunday September 27th. Um they say 12:00

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p.m. to 8:00 p.m. but that's set up and

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take down. Um it's uh 4 to 7 are the

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hours of the dinner and requesting that

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again this year we wave the insurance

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requirement. Is there a motion

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>> by Cindy? Second by George. All in favor

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>> uh on your additional agenda we have a

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uh permit request application to use

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village property. Karen Dunlop walk to

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end Alzheimer's requesting to display

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purple bunting and wraps on the flag

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pole base and the porch of 22 Main

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Street for one week and for the

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application fee to be waved. She's uh

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this is a walk that is you know from the

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sports center but these were what she

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wanted relative to public property.

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I think as long as the purple bunting

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does not bleed onto the porch woodwork

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particularly, it seems like a wonderful

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>> or the stone for that matter.

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>> Okay. So, you want to make that um

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motion with that caveat?

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>> I have a comment. So,

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>> okay. We'll just make it and then we'll

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have a discussion. So,

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>> I'll move it.

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>> Move it by Joe, seconded by Cindy. Your

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comment, Richard?

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I have no problem with purple bunting on

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the porch or on any of our

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lampstandions. I question whether it's

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appropriate on the flag pole and I also

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question whether or not it's just going

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to create an issue.

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>> wpping wrapping the flag pole in purple.

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>> It's the base.

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around where like the

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flowers are and other

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>> because it says flat. It says on the

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pole flag pole. Okay. Any

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other questions, comments? Um, so motion

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made and seconded. Um, all in favor? I

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» We have a zoning official report is in

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your packet.

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And we do have a um

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is this on as a

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just on for the application to come in

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or are we making the decision tonight?

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>> Point is here to discuss the

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>> All right.

284
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>> Yep. In front of us. I'm glad that you

285
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brought the large P drawings because we

286
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were having a hard time I think looking

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at the smaller ones. So, um, were, first

288
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of all, were there any questions or

289
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comments on the zoning report? No. All

290
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right, we'll accept that and go on to

291
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um, Caruso's Red Point 63 Lake View

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Drive, requesting a setback relief of 14

293
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ft from the lake. And uh yes question

294
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with that 14 I'm not sure where that

295
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number comes from because the the

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closest point we are at is at 30 ft

297
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which is still 20 ft back or at least 80

298
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ft back from the original house.

299
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>> I don't know why did

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>> I thought it was on the application.

301
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» Okay. I I think for our purposes

302
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um the point is kind of moot because we

303
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can't grant the variance. The zoning

304
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board of appeals does that but we need

305
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to grant or make a determination grant a

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special

307
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>> yes on it's just the area variance to

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construct house less than 100 ft but

309
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again that would go to uh ZBA

310
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then

311
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>> yeah but we have to rule first.

312
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>> Yeah. Yep.

313
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>> Or or Yeah. In conjunction with

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>> Yeah.

315
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>> All right. Um do you want to you can

316
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take the time now if you like. We have

317
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the larger maps. You can you're welcome

318
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to make um a presentation on this. We

319
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are looking to you know origally we

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monitor

321
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or the uh

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band but on further inspection we

323
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noticed that the foundation was in dire

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straits. There's a lot of hydraulic

325
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pressure from the the hillsides pushing

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in and the only way we can really um

327
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work with this house is actually to

328
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build that that elevation. So, um, going

329
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back on the 100 foot rule, that setback

330
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is actually outside of our our line, our

331
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lot. So, there's actually no way to

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comply with that 100 foot setback.

333
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You see, there's a big red line that I

334
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have drawn on page

335
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two.

336
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That fleet line is our 600 foot setback.

337
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It's just about 50 feet into a lot and

338
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lot.

339
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Um on page 4.2 you'll see a pink outline

340
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of the house. That's the existing house.

341
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What we're trying to do is push the

342
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house back as far as we can

343
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and actually um push it back further

344
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than the house is now. So

345
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approximately 18 ft back is further back

346
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from where we are starting.

347
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>> May I ask just a question on the

348
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footprint?

349
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>> Yeah. On page 821, you describe the

350
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footprint of the existing house as 251

351
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square feet,

352
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>> right? The proposed house is 2482 square

353
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ft plus

354
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>> plus a garage of 528

355
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which is a structure.

356
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>> So we're actually increasing the

357
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footprint. for it even out evening out

358
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some of that jogging setbacks of the

359
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house and kind of making more of a leg

360
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order to do a um a foundation that is

361
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kind of open and recessed. That's kind

362
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of

363
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>> right. I guess my question is the

364
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existing footprint

365
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there's enough going on in that site

366
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that we described to them so far anyway.

367
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It suggests to me that expanding the

368
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footprint

369
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will exacerbate conditions

370
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>> except we what we're doing is kind of

371
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creating a kind of a more modern

372
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footprint, more modern walk out

373
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basement. There would be tag to the

374
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bedrock. We're actually reducing any

375
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kind of infiltration into the lake and

376
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any kind of sed flow. We're actually

377
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creating larger, more stable um

378
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retaining loss with that foundation.

379
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» In this rendering at the front on the

380
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front page, I guess page one,

381
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you depict a shoreline. Is that an engineered

382
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shoreline? Is there a bulkhead there

383
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:36,480
now?

384
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>> There's no bulkhead. There's a bunch of

385
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uh timber cranked sort of timbered hang

386
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walls that are rotting as you can see

387
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some of the existing photographs. Those

388
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are all going away and pushing kind of

389
00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:50,480
reducing that kind of encroachment onto

390
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the lake and pushing it all back into

391
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,679
the house.

392
00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:56,400
>> And what does this picture depict?

393
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,039
That's going to

394
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>> This ising sorry depicting the house

395
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that exists here that that we're

396
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proposing to

397
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I'm just I'm talking about the riparian

398
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zone. Oh, that's existing. That's

399
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:14,789
nothing else.

400
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:17,919
» The um patio that is existing where you

401
00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:20,480
see there's a fireplace there that's

402
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exist. So we may need to repair that.

403
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,919
It's the garage which is well within

404
00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:41,840
this zone. What's your reasoning for

405
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,480
this

406
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,799
>> justifying that encroachment?

407
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:46,720
>> The reason for that,

408
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,039
>> right? How how do you rationalize that

409
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:50,080
encroachment?

410
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,480
>> You know, we were kind of advised by

411
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,360
either the pristill or you know

412
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:57,679
department to like ask for what we need.

413
00:25:57,679 --> 00:26:00,159
This was prior to knowing the setback.

414
00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:02,480
Cool. So this is something that the

415
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,039
client wished for. If so, we kind of

416
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:09,350
included that in the propert.

417
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,480
It's a small oneard garage that fits

418
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within tombs of the hillside.

419
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:19,679
>> Will there be a residence as part of it

420
00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:20,400
upstairs?

421
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,039
>> No, no, no. It's just a singlestory

422
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:24,880
garage.

423
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,840
Do you have a rendering of this with the

424
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,799
houses surrounding it? Yeah, if you look

425
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:34,640
on page the

426
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um 61

427
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:41,120
game 61 sort of a

428
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new pipe comparison and then I'll sort

429
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,279
of just kind of show you the view sheds

430
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:52,310
of all the houses neighborhoods.

431
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,960
» Are there any restrictions regarding

432
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,480
height? There are but we are well well

433
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,559
that

434
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,120
>> just so everyone knows this they're

435
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,120
making a presentation and it's fine we

436
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,000
can ask some questions this will go back

437
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,120
to our zoning boards for their comment

438
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,080
that's planning H barb etc. It also

439
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,880
needs to go to the county planning. So

440
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,000
that will all occur and we can set a

441
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,559
public hearing for our what will be

442
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,760
September 28th meeting at 6:30 when we

443
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,320
would kind of hear from the public and

444
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,120
then make a decision. So

445
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:32,799
>> may I suggest that when we make our

446
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,200
referrals uh this be referred to the

447
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,799
wersheds?

448
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,000
>> Yes. Yep. Absolutely. On the list

449
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,320
>> a question related to the garage.

450
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,240
>> Yeah. So it is tucked between the front

451
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,080
yard setback and the lake setback. It

452
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,000
would there be a scenario to request a

453
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,080
variance to the front yard setback to

454
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,520
keep it out of the lake setback.

455
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,159
>> So if the topography doesn't allow for

456
00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:04,799
that is because the the road behind it

457
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,760
is taking up majority of their

458
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,240
>> property. So this this is allows

459
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,399
basically it also cuts into the hillside

460
00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,559
creating another bulkhead to kind of

461
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:17,600
hide or top that garage. So it really is

462
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,399
a low profile garage that was kind of

463
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:21,360
set at. Yep.

464
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,720
>> If you look you can see kind of view of

465
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:30,710
that.

466
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,950
» I did a basics

467
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,159
the bottom of the page. See, you can see

468
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:44,630
how that fits into the leg.

469
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,600
Just on that follow your question,

470
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,080
Sydney, the um

471
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,720
the total increase

472
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,880
in the

473
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,919
given the increase of 400 square ft or

474
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more in the house with the garage being

475
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,600
incorporated into the house.

476
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,200
>> Well, could the garage be I think we

477
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,480
could do that.

478
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,679
eliminating structure.

479
00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:10,720
>> Yeah, we could we could find a way to do

480
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,520
that where we kind of thought well do

481
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,630
that

482
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:23,190
this

483
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,120
are there any other questions?

484
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,039
>> I can make a series of motions.

485
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:29,039
>> Yes, we're we're ready unless you have

486
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,600
any comments addition we make. All

487
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,720
right. All right.

488
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,799
>> Explain anything.

489
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:36,640
Thank you.

490
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,240
>> So first motion is that I will make a

491
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,880
declaration that this is a type two

492
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,880
action for the purposes of seeker and

493
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,799
that is because it's a single family

494
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,200
residence

495
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,480
that

496
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,360
>> um and we can vote on that now. So any

497
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,360
questions on that? All right. All those

498
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,240
in favor of um ruling that this is a

499
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,600
type two action for purposes of seeker

500
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,399
say I.

501
00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:07,520
>> I.

502
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,080
>> And then I will make a motion to forward

503
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,840
this application for comment to the

504
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,760
zoning board of appeals, the planning

505
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,520
board, the historic preservation and

506
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,120
architectural review board, the

507
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,440
watershed supervisory committee, and the

508
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,240
county planning department. and set a

509
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,039
public hearing for September

510
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:29,840
>> 28 at 6:30 p.m. to consider a special

511
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,200
use permit for a new single family house

512
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,799
within the waterfront development

513
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:36,000
overlay district.

514
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,480
>> Motion made. I'll second.

515
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,600
All in favor?

516
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,960
>> I.

517
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,360
>> All right. Will we need to have heard

518
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,360
back from all five of those?

519
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,840
>> Everyone, including be able to hear back

520
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,440
from five of them.

521
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,000
>> Yeah. as I was hearing you could. Okay.

522
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,080
>> Well, the there was a

523
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,840
>> I think we will with planning because

524
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,399
planning meets on the 22nd

525
00:30:58,399 --> 00:30:59,520
>> and they'll be

526
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,240
>> Yeah.

527
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,720
>> Okay.

528
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,720
>> And we did our seeker determination. So,

529
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,880
the county should not have a hold up.

530
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,679
>> All right. Thank you.

531
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:13,039
>> Um we also under zoning um we have an

532
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:17,510
updated zoning map.

533
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,240
» It's on the table. Um it's essentially,

534
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480
if you recall, we updated one I think

535
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,720
just about a little over a year ago, but

536
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,440
the actions we've taken since that time

537
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,360
include um changing

538
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,399
uh a section that was considered

539
00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:36,880
business part of the Cooper Inn property

540
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,640
that came over on Lake Street to um

541
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,480
residential

542
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,000
R3, right? Is it R3?

543
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,039
>> Um yes.

544
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,399
>> Yeah. So that was sort of the primary

545
00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:53,919
change. We also altered the colors to

546
00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:56,240
make them more

547
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,600
um compliant with uh visual impairment

548
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,000
issues and we also um improved the key a

549
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,320
bit so that was easier to read. But the

550
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,760
primary change on the zoning was the

551
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,320
reclassification of that one piece of

552
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:20,230
property.

553
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,480
There a motion to approve the new zoning

554
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,679
map with the that made by Joe, second by

555
00:32:25,679 --> 00:32:31,750
George. All in favor?

556
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080
» We are approaching

557
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,720
um the time of our public hearing. So,

558
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,080
I'm going to I think the next one might

559
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,320
take a little bit more time. So

560
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,600
we've got only like four minutes. So I

561
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,600
am going to um

562
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,519
uh

563
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,399
open our public hearings.

564
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:02,480
Uh, our public hearings are proposed

565
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,399
local law number four of 2026

566
00:33:06,399 --> 00:33:10,559
amends section 233-3A

567
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:16,080
a smoking and vaping law and primarily

568
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,559
um this is I think about the third month

569
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:23,600
this has come before us and um based on

570
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,679
trustee feedback last month we have

571
00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:30,399
essentially actually made that section

572
00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:34,480
of the law a 233-3A

573
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,360
read this way. The following buildings

574
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,240
and adjoining land along with vehicles

575
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,880
owned by the village of Coopertown are

576
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,559
hereby designated as smokefree and vapor

577
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,000
zones. Water treatment plant, wastewater

578
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,039
treatment plant, streets building, fire

579
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,039
hall. the other part of that section had

580
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,919
been adopted a number of years ago. So

581
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:02,960
that's the change right there.

582
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,919
Uh and we also will open the public

583
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:08,159
hearing for proposed local law number

584
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,040
five of 2026

585
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,800
amend section 300-17.2

586
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,879
two zoning law temporary use permits and

587
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:21,440
change the number of events for

588
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,320
nonprofit organizations to 14 per

589
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,720
calendar year. So, at that time, I'm

590
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:34,159
opening the public hearing on those two

591
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,520
proposed local laws. And anyone who

592
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,679
would like to speak, just come to the

593
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,480
microphone, state your name, address,

594
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,839
and uh speak. And and which law you're

595
00:34:45,839 --> 00:34:53,190
addressing. Thank you.

596
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,720
» My address is 6050 State Highway 80.

597
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,040
However, I am a property owner in the

598
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000
village also. I am here to speak about

599
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,960
the local law number four and I

600
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,280
feel that at the village board you have

601
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,760
an obligation to protect the health of

602
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,640
volunteers and employees. I'm sure

603
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,560
you've all heard the term secondhand

604
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,040
smoke. Allowing people to smoke on

605
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,040
village properties and in village owned

606
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,920
vehicles exposes volunteers and

607
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,640
employees to immediate smoke and

608
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,440
secondhand smoke. Unfortunately,

609
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,920
volunteered firefighters and personnel

610
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,520
are exposed to smoke at active fires in

611
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,200
spite of all the equipment that is

612
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,320
purchased to try to protect them.

613
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,400
deliberately allowing people to be

614
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,359
exposed to smoke and secondhand smoke is

615
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:49,440
totally irresponsible. I just can't say

616
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,320
enough about how strongly I feel that

617
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,480
the village needs to protect the

618
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,480
employees and the volunteers. Thank you.

619
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,470
>> Thank you, Marvin.

620
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:08,390
» Anyone else like to speak?

621
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,960
Hi, my name is Christine. My address was

622
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,560
on Main Street Cougar's town. I'd like

623
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,119
to speak on the local law board. I wrote

624
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:21,040
it because he's gathering.

625
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,640
So, I'd like to express my support with

626
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,960
the proposed local law board prohibiting

627
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040
smoking on village own property. Village

628
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,800
property belongs to and serves the

629
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,880
entire community. our public buildings

630
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,160
and the grounds surrounding homeland

631
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,520
should be places that residents,

632
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,359
employees, volunteers, families,

633
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:37,520
children, and visitors can access

634
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,000
comfortably and safely. While smoking is

635
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,599
a personal choice, exposure to

636
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,000
secondhand smoke is not always a choice,

637
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,359
especially when someone have to walk

638
00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:47,280
through it to enter a public building or

639
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,520
use a public space. There are members of

640
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,880
our community who are particularly

641
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,960
affected by cigarettes, including

642
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,720
children, older adults, and people with

643
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:57,040
asthma or other respiratory conditions.

644
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,560
No one should have to choose between

645
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,800
avoiding cigarette smoke and accessing a

646
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,720
building or service that belongs to the

647
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,640
public. I don't view this as an

648
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,040
antismoker policy. It does not prevent

649
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,359
anyone from choosing to smoke. It simply

650
00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:11,680
establishes a reasonable boundary for

651
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,920
where smoking takes place when the

652
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,520
individual choice affects the people

653
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,280
sharing a public space. I think is

654
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,359
reasonable to ask that the activity

655
00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:22,000
takes place on village property. Village

656
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,520
property should reflect a commitment to

657
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,599
health, safety, cleanliness, and

658
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,599
consideration for everyone who uses it.

659
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,839
A clear smokefree policy also removes

660
00:37:29,839 --> 00:37:32,000
any uncertainty about how close to an

661
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,839
entrance, gathering area or another

662
00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:35,839
person is considered acceptable.

663
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:37,280
Ultimately, when we are talking about

664
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,800
property that belongs to the entire

665
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,560
community, I believe the health and

666
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,079
comfort of the community as a whole

667
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,000
should come first. For those reasons, I

668
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,960
feel support.

669
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,000
>> Thank you, Kristen.

670
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,880
>> Thank you.

671
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,960
Is there anyone else who would like to

672
00:37:52,960 --> 00:38:00,950
speak?

673
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,400
» The first read a letter from Victor

674
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,440
Jones.

675
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,560
>> Chad, just say Chad Bellinger. I heard

676
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,280
>> Chad

677
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,320
Victor.

678
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,000
>> He'd like an address.

679
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,560
>> An address.

680
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,000
>> Your street address.

681
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,920
>> Thank you.

682
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,880
>> Um, let's see. Victor Johnson tonight.

683
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,560
So he says, "Good evening. I would like

684
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,240
to speak in support of the proposed ban

685
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,480
on smoking and the dirt fire acts. I

686
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,839
want to be clear that my support for

687
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:27,520
this is not intended as criticism to

688
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,440
anyone who smokes nor about passing

689
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,359
judgment on their personal approaches.

690
00:38:31,359 --> 00:38:33,200
It is simply about protecting the health

691
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,800
and safety of everyone who use the fire

692
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,119
station. More specifically, those

693
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,280
members of the public who had

694
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,760
significant reaction are being exposed.

695
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,119
As firefighters and emergency

696
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,920
responders, our members already accept

697
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,760
significant risk as far as observing our

698
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,400
community fires. They are exposed to

699
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,400
smoke, carcinogens, and other hazardous

700
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,560
substances that we now know could have

701
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,680
serious and long-term health

702
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,680
consequences. The fire service has made

703
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,440
significant progress in reducing those

704
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,960
exposures

705
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,560
through better protective equipment,

706
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,800
decontamination, and increased cancer

707
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,480
risks. But that doesn't mean it

708
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,800
shouldn't stop there. It only makes

709
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,640
sense that we take responsible steps to

710
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,280
reduce preventable exposures at the fire

711
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,200
station as well when we are not

712
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,440
responding or returning from an alarm.

713
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,760
For most members, the time spent fire

714
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,400
safely small portion of the time they

715
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,880
actually spend at the station. Members

716
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,560
are there for training, meetings,

717
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,800
equipment checks, work details, social

718
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,560
problems, and simply making themselves

719
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,040
available to respond. Repeated exposure

720
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,800
to secondhand cigarette smoke during

721
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200
that time is an unnecessary health risk.

722
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,440
that we have the ability to control and

723
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,800
should have been controlled up until

724
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,440
this point. Our fire station should be a

725
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000
place where members can train, work,

726
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,320
volunteer, and serve their community and

727
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,079
is the healthiest environment as we can

728
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,320
responsibly provide.

729
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,839
And those members of the public

730
00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:55,839
following who use the hall for various

731
00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:57,760
events should also be free of those same

732
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,400
unnecessary closures, not to mention our

733
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,480
neighbors who are in close proximity to

734
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,720
our station. I am certain to appreciate

735
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,280
having a window or a DC unit running

736
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,000
without rolling a second. The number one

737
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
method we send when adopting this

738
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,160
proposed change is that our fire

739
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,160
department members health and safety is

740
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,640
number one priority. No exceptions. For

741
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,640
those reasons, I respectfully support

742
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,880
the proposed smoking ban I believe is a

743
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,880
reasonable step toward protecting both

744
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,960
our current members and the generations

745
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,760
of the firefighters EMS providers who we

746
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,000
hope will help. Thank you, Victor Jones.

747
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,720
All right. And then this is my exhibit.

748
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:40,079
So Lia, I want to start by saying thank

749
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,240
you for allowing me to speak. My name is

750
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,079
Chad Bellinger. I'm speaking tonight as

751
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,320
a concern resident and an active member

752
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,560
of the community. The following will

753
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,320
only be a reflection of my own personal

754
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,079
thoughts and experiences and in no way

755
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,480
represents the opinions or interest of

756
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,680
fire department or any other village.

757
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,359
All data I've gathered come from

758
00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:01,040
publicly accessible websites which I

759
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,240
have sourced. According

760
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,960
to the NFBA, in a four-year span between

761
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,359
2019 and 2023,

762
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:10,880
there were an estimated average of

763
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,640
15,209

764
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,720
structure fires annually that were

765
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,440
started by smoke, resulting in 590

766
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,599
civilian fatalities,

767
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:23,599
1,048 civilian injuries, and 674 million

768
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:26,319
in direct property damage. It's also

769
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:28,079
worth noting that the most common point

770
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:30,400
of origin for these fires was not inside

771
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,480
the structure, but on the outside, such

772
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,599
as an exterior balcony or porch. An

773
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:38,960
additional 894 fires originated on an

774
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,760
exterior wall surface. According to the

775
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,400
World Health Organization, globally, the

776
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,240
vacule fills more than 7 million people

777
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,160
each year, including 1.6 million

778
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,480
non-smokers who are exposed to

779
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,119
secondhand smoke. Locally, the CDC

780
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,599
claims that in the US, exposure to

781
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:57,520
secondhand smoke caused an estimated

782
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,319
41,000 deaths annually. And of those,

783
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:02,079
7,333

784
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:06,400
are caused by lung cancer, while 33,951

785
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,400
are caused by heart defects, all

786
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,040
attributed to secondhand smoke. as

787
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,560
someone who has personally witnessed the

788
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,480
untimely and painfully slow deaths of

789
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,720
people close to me both first and

790
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,880
secondhand smoke as well as known

791
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,200
someone from perish fire caused by a lit

792
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,400
cigarette. I urge for to consider the

793
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,079
consequences of not instituting a

794
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:29,359
smoking at all properties and for your

795
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:31,760
own conscious do it for longevity of

796
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,440
both your employees and potentially your

797
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,760
buildings. and smoking has been proven

798
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,520
to be dangerous not only to the smoker

799
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,560
but also to non-cover.

800
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,160
I encourage you to make a decision that

801
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,200
mitigates the unnecessary risk involved

802
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,119
allowing people to smoke on any building

803
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:48,880
owned property

804
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,440
the problem associated with allowing it

805
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,839
or avoid avoidant. Thank you for your

806
00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:55,040
time.

807
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,000
>> Thank you Chad. Good luck.

808
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,880
>> There he is.

809
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,599
>> Oh, would you like to ask a Chad, there

810
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:02,560
was a question.

811
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,640
to propose that the statements written

812
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,040
statements be provided to the cler.

813
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,760
>> If you have uh them they can be it's

814
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,640
also we're also recorded too. So we have

815
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,910
them in in the recording.

816
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,599
» Is there anyone else who would like to

817
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:24,400
speak to um either public hearing

818
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,400
but particularly the smoking one? I

819
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,440
guess seems to be it.

820
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,720
Anyone else?

821
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:36,640
No, not I'm I'm going to close the

822
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,760
public hearing

823
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:46,309
and uh have the board have a discussion.

824
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:48,800
Right.

825
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,520
So um this was um this came out of

826
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,520
buildings committee and um this is the I

827
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,640
think the second or third permutation on

828
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:08,400
this at last month's meeting. We um rather unanimously agreed that it

829
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,680
should include not just the building but

830
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,359
the village owned property and vehicles.

831
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:19,280
So that was the reason that the we had

832
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,280
to set another public hearing because

833
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,319
that made the law stricter than we had

834
00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:28,160
publicly noticed previously. So this is

835
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,000
that opportunity. Um does everyone want

836
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,040
to have a chance to speak about it or

837
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,000
>> I I want to express that a concern that

838
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,920
I have expressed in the past two

839
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,599
meetings as well and that is by

840
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,240
including land

841
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,960
we are in effect creating a designated

842
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,319
smoking area that is on public sidewalks

843
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:53,200
or on adjoining properties

844
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,520
adjoining the places where the village

845
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,400
owns. So for instance, particularly

846
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,200
problematic is the water treatment plant

847
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,040
which is

848
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,440
you know marked on either side by basset

849
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,200
property. So BAS property is not

850
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,839
smoking. If all village property is not

851
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:12,960
smoking then employees there who smoke

852
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,599
will likely step into the public

853
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:18,319
sidewalk or the street on the hillside

854
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:21,839
coming up from the parking lot. I was

855
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:23,920
very much in favor last night last last

856
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,440
month of including designated smoking

857
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,440
areas on properties to allow those who

858
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,800
have what I agree is a bad habit um that

859
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,520
I wish they would not partake in

860
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,119
somewhere where they can do that where

861
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:43,440
it is less obnoxious to the public at

862
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,839
large than in front of a village

863
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:48,160
property.

864
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,560
Thank you, Cindy. Richard, do you have

865
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,079
>> I don't really have anything to add to

866
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,920
this. I indication to eliminate smoking

867
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,079
of public property.

868
00:45:58,079 --> 00:45:59,760
>> All right, Joe.

869
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,240
>> I would just like to thank

870
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,079
everybody who's testifying about this

871
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:06,480
issue. It's been personally most

872
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,720
educational over the past what two or

873
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,960
three months to hear all the different

874
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,920
perspectives and I appreciate the the

875
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,839
research, the depth of feeling, the

876
00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,720
concern that's been expressed and um in

877
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:21,200
my case I am supportive of the

878
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,440
legislation.

879
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,240
>> George,

880
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,000
>> I'm also supportive. I think the health

881
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,800
issue trumps just about every

882
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,319
everything. And again, we we speak about

883
00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:35,200
a designated area as an option there,

884
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,040
but smoke travels and

885
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,119
if you know, we can just use this room

886
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,359
as an example. People are smoking in the

887
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:45,119
corner there, the wind's blowing, it's

888
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:46,560
going to affect this side, you know,

889
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,960
this side of the room.

890
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,480
So, uh, I would look to support the ban.

891
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,359
Well,

892
00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:57,200
>> yeah, I would have to agree with Cindy.

893
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,599
I feel like we should have even though

894
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,960
smoking is an incredibly bad habit but

895
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,960
lots of health effects I do agree with

896
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,760
Cindy that we should have we may have a

897
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,800
set aside able spot for these people who

898
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,520
do choose to partake in smoking to be

899
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,839
able to go go back and have have a

900
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:20,319
spoke. I would have to sign with the

901
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:25,119
event that they maybe create this space.

902
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:28,400
>> All right. Um thank you all. I know this

903
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,800
is seems to have been a little difficult

904
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,079
for um some of us uh on this trustee

905
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:38,640
board. Uh I would concur that um the

906
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,800
good outweighs

907
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,599
kind of the infringement on someone's

908
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:48,319
privilege to smoke. Um we do have two

909
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:52,800
village employees that smoke. Um, and

910
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,440
they do have that potential to smoke

911
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,359
then on a sidewalk in particular in that

912
00:47:59,359 --> 00:48:01,920
one location. I think it will they will

913
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,319
be vastly outnumbered by the number of

914
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:07,200
people standing outside Basset Hospital

915
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,680
smoking on the sidewalk. It is what it

916
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,319
is and you can just kind of get around

917
00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:14,560
them and fortunately hopefully the

918
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,319
wind's blowing in a different direction

919
00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:19,680
when you walk by it. But um I also am in

920
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,040
support of it. So, I will make a motion

921
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,319
to approve the changes to chapter 233

922
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:33,359
smoking and vaping in section A. That it

923
00:48:33,359 --> 00:48:35,200
uh include the following buildings in

924
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,440
adjoining land along with vehicles owned

925
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,839
by the village of Coopertown are hereby

926
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:42,319
designated as smoke-free and vapor

927
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:45,200
zones, water treatment plant, wastewater

928
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,040
treatment plant, streets building, and

929
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,559
fire hall. Is there a second? Second by

930
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:53,599
Joe. All in favor?

931
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:56,160
>> All oppose.

932
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Two. Okay. Thank you very much. Um and

933
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,480
now we have we have the second um

934
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,760
proposed local law, but as I understand

935
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,680
it, we didn't get anything back from the

936
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,200
county, did we? Or

937
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,280
>> No, we could we could do the short

938
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,520
environmental assessment form just to

939
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,599
check that off of the list. Okay. But we

940
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:19,760
do have to wait for the county referral

941
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,280
to be returned.

942
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,319
>> So this will probably be postponed uh to

943
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:29,839
uh our next meeting, the September 28th

944
00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:32,480
meeting when we could formally adopt it.

945
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,880
Okay. All right. Do you want to go walk

946
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,520
us through?

947
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,359
>> Yes. Well, I'll start by declaring this

948
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:40,079
action, which is to amend the number of

949
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,640
days that a nonprofit entity could have

950
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,760
a temporary use permit from 7 to 14 as

951
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,079
an unlisted action for the purposes of

952
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:50,079
Seagar with the village of Coopertown

953
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:53,200
acting as the lead agency.

954
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,640
So, that's the first motion.

955
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,520
>> All right. Second by Richard. All in

956
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,680
favor?

957
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,880
So then we need to complete part two and

958
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,119
part three of the short environmental

959
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:09,040
assessment form. Um I would make a

960
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,200
blanket motion that this change will

961
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,400
have no or small impacts on numbers 1

962
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,559
through 11.

963
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:18,240
We can go through them one by one if you

964
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:18,880
want. But

965
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,520
>> I think we did we all get that? I know I

966
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,400
saw it digitally. Yeah. So we've all

967
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,480
>> Yeah. and was also you have a hard copy

968
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,599
so you've seen it. Um is there a second

969
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,680
to that or any questions?

970
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,480
>> I'll second.

971
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,599
>> Second by Joe Fabber.

972
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:38,400
And then I will make a motion on the

973
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,559
back page that uh we check the second

974
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:44,720
box which says check this box if you

975
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,559
have determined based on the information

976
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,720
and analysis above and any supporting

977
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,800
documentation that the pro proposed

978
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,559
action will not result in any

979
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:54,720
significant adverse environmental

980
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,880
impact.

981
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,670
>> Second by Richard. All in favor?

982
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,440
» All right. So, we'll essentially um

983
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,520
return this to the packet and put it on

984
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,680
the agenda for the September 28th

985
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,950
meeting.

986
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,359
Um moving on,

987
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:22,000
we have uh now QC hospitality request um

988
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,520
for a community development block grant

989
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,800
toniclip in. Uh we had that uh meeting

990
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,800
on August 10th with the proponents of

991
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:41,599
this project and um I think that we all

992
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:45,680
uh reviewed everything that was provided

993
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,800
to us. I would like rather than to get

994
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,839
into an extended discussion,

995
00:51:51,839 --> 00:51:54,640
uh I'd like to give every trustee a

996
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,200
chance to speak to

997
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,760
um the request that the village of

998
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,160
Coopertown apply for a community

999
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,599
development block grant for uh the Tana

1000
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:08,319
Cliff in. I'll begin with you Cindy.

1001
00:52:08,319 --> 00:52:10,720
>> Yes. So I'd just like to say that I am

1002
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:13,440
in favor of this project that is the

1003
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,400
rehabilitation of the Tennoc Cliff in. I

1004
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,319
am concerned that the information

1005
00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:20,880
presented to the village thus far is

1006
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,240
lacking in details about finances and

1007
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:28,079
job creation on which the CDBG

1008
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:30,640
application would be based.

1009
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,640
>> All right. Thank you, Richard.

1010
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,520
>> Uh, as per Cindy, I'm in favor of any

1011
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,800
project that will increase the value of

1012
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,000
property in the village, increase jobs.

1013
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,960
Uh I also agree that the presentation

1014
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,280
left much to be desired and I was

1015
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,119
thinking as we got the presentation from

1016
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:52,559
Breadpoint that the opposite I'm not

1017
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,880
redpoint from

1018
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,359
the um what was it the organization I

1019
00:52:57,359 --> 00:52:59,440
was presenting

1020
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,760
>> or the oh the main street building

1021
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,319
>> main street.

1022
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:02,880
>> Oh okay.

1023
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,640
>> You know that's the way a presentation

1024
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,520
should appear. I also don't know why the

1025
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,280
village should be the lead agency on

1026
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,079
this. um the benefits to the entire

1027
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:14,319
county. The county has professional

1028
00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:16,319
staff to do these sort of things or

1029
00:53:16,319 --> 00:53:18,319
should uh they certainly have a high

1030
00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:20,720
enough payroll for that and I think they

1031
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:22,640
should be doing it but I'm certainly in

1032
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,559
favor of the project going through. I'm

1033
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,640
just not in favor at this point. I have

1034
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,079
enough information to see why the

1035
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:30,319
village should take on any economic

1036
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:32,480
interest in it.

1037
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,119
Joe.

1038
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:36,079
>> Well, in my view, this project is the

1039
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:38,640
presentation that was made and I can't

1040
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,960
support the project.

1041
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,480
We did have some discussion um without

1042
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,640
getting into the details of it that in

1043
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,800
my view was incomplete.

1044
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,920
The information he did receive was

1045
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,520
unsatisfactory

1046
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,680
um unprofessional.

1047
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,000
Um and so uh the idea in the abstract of

1048
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,880
rehabilitating British buildings of

1049
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,200
course unsupported but as the project

1050
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,880
this project which seeks the villages uh

1051
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,750
support for development block.

1052
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,000
» Thank you George.

1053
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,200
>> I'm very much in support of rehabing

1054
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,000
parts of the village that are crumbling

1055
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,720
and all that. I think having when we had

1056
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:27,119
the restaurant, the toner cliff there

1057
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:30,400
was a nice addition to everything else

1058
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,400
that existed in terms of where you can

1059
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,559
eat and all that. But I would just

1060
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:36,640
recommend that we're very very cautious

1061
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,040
to make sure that it fits the needs of

1062
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,079
the community is

1063
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:44,559
regulated, controlled so it doesn't

1064
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,440
become an overblown

1065
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:53,750
project that affects us in a negative way.

1066
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,920
Yeah, I'm definitely in favor of

1067
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,160
revitalizing the tennif. It would be

1068
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,240
nice to have something uh something

1069
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:02,240
better and I guess nicer to look at

1070
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:03,920
every time I'm coming out of stage

1071
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,440
coach. I do would like to see more

1072
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,559
information. It did seem like it was I

1073
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:12,160
want to say I think it was you Joe that

1074
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,800
said it was kind of professional or kind

1075
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,079
of scattered their the company's um

1076
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:20,480
presentation a couple weeks ago. I would

1077
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,480
just like give you a little bit more

1078
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,800
professional information and the

1079
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,640
presentation. Um so I wouldn't I guess

1080
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,400
project

1081
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,960
>> um we really haven't had a chance uh to

1082
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,880
discuss this. So that's what I was

1083
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,000
giving everyone the opportunity to do.

1084
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,760
For those newer to the board, the

1085
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,480
village historically has done one

1086
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,440
community development block grant and it

1087
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,119
was for our um distillery. It was for

1088
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:54,640
the 7,000 square foot addition, the Rick

1089
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,200
House, to an existing um business. the

1090
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,280
business owner owned the building

1091
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,839
already and had already had a pretty

1092
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:07,680
viable business model going when he um

1093
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,720
requested support for an addition. This

1094
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:14,880
grant the community development block

1095
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,799
grant becomes has to be

1096
00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:21,119
handled by a municipality. So either

1097
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:23,920
it's the village, the town, the county.

1098
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,880
Those are the three agencies that could

1099
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,799
do that. Uh in the case of the um

1100
00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:33,119
Coopertown Distillery, we did handle

1101
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:35,440
that. It was the first one we did and it

1102
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,160
was quite successful. Um on this uh

1103
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,799
again, our name would be on the line and

1104
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:45,760
I'm not comfortable with all the data

1105
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,599
that I have received. So at this point,

1106
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:51,599
uh is there a motion?

1107
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,079
>> May I make one last comment? We can make

1108
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:56,079
the motion. Well, let me make one last

1109
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,799
comment if I may. We for the members of

1110
00:56:58,799 --> 00:57:01,839
the public we did discuss this in

1111
00:57:01,839 --> 00:57:04,240
executive session and because there was

1112
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:06,319
financial information that the developer

1113
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:10,640
was um interested in protecting. So our

1114
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,839
ability to share what went on the

1115
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:15,280
executive session is obviously

1116
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:20,240
constrained but um my comments about the

1117
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,359
proposal are derived from what we

1118
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:25,680
learned there and I won't comment

1119
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,280
further on that. But I will finally say

1120
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,760
that we the the request here, the action

1121
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,079
here is to have the mayor supported by

1122
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:37,920
the village board of trustees attest to

1123
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,200
um the quality of of a grant application

1124
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,520
that I think there is not sufficient

1125
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,440
information

1126
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,240
to to to justify it. Okay.

1127
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,079
>> So is there a motion

1128
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:52,160
>> a motion to decline

1129
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,880
>> decline an application? Just need. All

1130
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,599
right. Is there a second? I'll second

1131
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:01,440
>> second by Joe. All in favor?

1132
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,680
>> Okay. No post. All right. Thank you.

1133
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,920
>> Would would it be fair to say that if

1134
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,400
additional information were forthcoming

1135
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,960
that we might reconsider that vote? Is

1136
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:11,839
that a possibility?

1137
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:14,160
>> That vote was not or that vote was

1138
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:14,960
tonight.

1139
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,040
>> Yeah. the 100% the um budget information

1140
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,680
we receive should we find that there is

1141
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,720
a new bud preliminary budget application

1142
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,760
submitted for village purview uh with

1143
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,799
documentation certainly there would be a

1144
00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:31,599
different approach

1145
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:34,559
>> and I think we would also like to see

1146
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:36,799
capability statements by the project

1147
00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:39,839
proponents which

1148
00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:42,079
>> we need.

1149
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:48,079
>> All right. Um, moving on, uh,

1150
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:51,680
public safety committee and in your, uh,

1151
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,839
additional agenda, you had the, uh, had

1152
00:58:55,839 --> 00:58:57,680
additional,

1153
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:04,150
uh, materials for public safety.

1154
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,920
» Like to start off with a little, you

1155
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:13,510
know, story. We had, we had an incident

1156
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,200
August 10th, I believe, when we had a

1157
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,319
woman fall into a ravine

1158
00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:20,880
and uh fire department, police

1159
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,760
department responded. And uh just

1160
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,359
because he's sitting in a room, I just

1161
00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:27,200
want to make note of the tremendous job

1162
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,839
that officer Lance did uh assisting the

1163
00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:34,160
victim out from the building. He's about

1164
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,119
40 40 feet deep where where she was. And

1165
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:45,920
uh again uh an extraordinary job by you and by by those who assisted.

1166
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:52,470
Terrific.

1167
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,400
Now I just have a I have a question for

1168
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,000
the board regarding today. I know

1169
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,559
certain when I was working there were

1170
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:01,359
formal accommodations that were made for

1171
01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:03,520
heroic actions. Do we have that ability

1172
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,799
here in the village? Is that something

1173
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:06,720
that we do? I don't think we we

1174
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,280
certainly could do a uh umclamation

1175
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,599
>> proclamation. We don't have official

1176
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:13,359
commenation forms, but

1177
01:00:13,359 --> 01:00:14,799
>> could I make a recommendation though

1178
01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:17,280
that we move towards doing that?

1179
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,160
>> Yep.

1180
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,359
>> I can second that.

1181
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:21,440
>> Yep.

1182
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,559
>> All in favor?

1183
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:24,799
>> I

1184
01:00:24,799 --> 01:00:30,480
thanks Jess. Uh other than that, uh the

1185
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,440
camera system now is fully operational.

1186
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,640
Uh it's been useful in at least a couple

1187
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,119
of instances and again if you could just

1188
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:41,040
if you recall quick because I didn't

1189
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,359
take notes when we spoke but if you

1190
01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:49,920
would just a couple instances where the cameos like I'm losing

1191
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,720
>> good evening thank you everybody for the

1192
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,960
nomination I'm happy to serve I'm happy

1193
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,720
to do that or anyone so I appreciate

1194
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,000
that recognition so as to saying our

1195
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,040
camera system that mobility group is

1196
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,839
proud proudly up and running and in the

1197
01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:09,599
short couple of weeks that it's been

1198
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:13,920
live following our policy, we used it to

1199
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,720
um solve two instances. One was to uh

1200
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,599
actually dispel some rumors that there

1201
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:24,480
was a 911 call of a individual with the

1202
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,000
firearm

1203
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,160
early in the morning hours. The cameras

1204
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,559
caught this individual was not caught by

1205
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:32,400
troopers because it happened at 4:30 in

1206
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,119
the morning. At 6:00 a.m. I was able to

1207
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,599
catch the camera catch this gentleman on

1208
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:40,319
camera see exactly what the individual

1209
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:42,160
was carrying that match description of

1210
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,880
the 911 call and immediately report back

1211
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,599
to the hospital came in from the

1212
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:50,480
hospital that the Clark entities who

1213
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,720
Peggy passed by that there was no threat

1214
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,040
to the community before anyone probably

1215
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,440
woke up for coffee. So that was quite we

1216
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,960
were quite pleased to be able to get

1217
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,680
that guarantee that there was no threat

1218
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,280
to the public even though that call came

1219
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,400
in from a concerned um basket employee.

1220
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,960
So really pleased with that. I also had

1221
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,720
a I was hit and run accident that I

1222
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,720
heard right from the post office that

1223
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,160
was all um saw exactly who the

1224
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,119
individual was saw the damage to the

1225
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:21,599
other vehicle and he was obviously um

1226
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:23,920
addressed with that accident report

1227
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,079
today. Believe it or not, this morning,

1228
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:27,280
you know, quite a long day since

1229
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,960
breakfast with the board and getting

1230
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,400
other complaints in, um, we had a an

1231
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,400
individual come in that was quite

1232
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,119
concerned of another individual that

1233
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,599
there's been an ongoing issue with their

1234
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:42,640
place of business on 8 week. that person

1235
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,799
realized, you know, what we had in in

1236
01:02:46,799 --> 01:02:49,760
operation and she stated that the fact

1237
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,680
that those cameras are there, she feels

1238
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,920
much safer knowing that if that

1239
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,160
individual that who is trespassed from

1240
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,880
that facility, her place of business,

1241
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,920
that we are able to continually protect

1242
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,839
her and her employees at that

1243
01:03:03,839 --> 01:03:06,079
establishment. So, that was another

1244
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:07,680
thing that she was able to leave the

1245
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,160
building. she entered in tears because

1246
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,680
of the concern that she had of the

1247
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,680
subject knowing that she's kind of um

1248
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,319
available and we have that tool out our

1249
01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:21,440
resources. So that was um very happy to

1250
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,599
report those and there'll be quite many

1251
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:26,000
more that we can report and some will

1252
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,520
probably I won't even be able to get to

1253
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,359
tell you about that'll help a lot of the

1254
01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:31,599
community. So it's a great project so

1255
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:32,559
far. Thank you.

1256
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:33,440
>> Thank you.

1257
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,119
I think it's been implemented

1258
01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:37,200
very well by

1259
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,400
>> question where where are they hosted?

1260
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,720
>> So presently these are the ones that

1261
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,000
were previously um set in the policy.

1262
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,400
The current location is main street and

1263
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,240
fair street

1264
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,440
pioneer street at Main Street Main

1265
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,599
Street and Chestnut Street and then the

1266
01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:58,240
final fourth count presently is at the

1267
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,039
docks covering both of the village owned

1268
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:03,760
docks. Yeah.

1269
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,960
>> Thank you. Yes.

1270
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,880
>> Just one other just one other item

1271
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,640
briefly. It should be in your packet

1272
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,079
that we have an application for a full

1273
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:16,400
>> full-time officer.

1274
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,760
>> Parttime I'm sorry, part time.

1275
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,440
>> And if you have a chance, you can review

1276
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,480
that. Uh you want to say a couple words?

1277
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,359
>> Happy Sue. I do apologize that he w he

1278
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:29,760
came in late last week and wasn't able

1279
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,079
to attend this morning's breakfast with

1280
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:34,559
the board. Um he was actually working

1281
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:37,760
the shift at Sunni Onata. um comes very

1282
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,359
highly recommended by two other officers

1283
01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:43,440
of our department including myself who I

1284
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,440
personally work with this individual

1285
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,039
very dedicated um former county deputy

1286
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:51,359
sheriff who presently worked his is

1287
01:04:51,359 --> 01:04:53,760
working now at Sunni Onian in their

1288
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,319
police department um his dedication to

1289
01:04:56,319 --> 01:04:59,119
the service he's had 12 years at the

1290
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:01,760
county sheriff's office here knows our

1291
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,480
area patrols it very well he was very

1292
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,200
excited to say that you know He chose

1293
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,079
our department for a part-time position.

1294
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:13,119
He's keeping his full-time status at the

1295
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:15,839
university, but they have a state shifts

1296
01:05:15,839 --> 01:05:17,760
12 hours. So, we've got quite a few days

1297
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,960
off. He declines applying to another

1298
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,680
village, I'll say it's goary county,

1299
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,799
that pays $10 more in Allen. He decided

1300
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:28,559
to apply with us because of the

1301
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:31,119
relationship he has with the members,

1302
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:33,119
the ability that he knows the patrol

1303
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:36,480
area and how we want to he lives in and

1304
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,720
would like to stay closer than ongo

1305
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,480
county. So we're very happy to receive

1306
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,480
the application completed all the

1307
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,880
documents and waiverss. So that u

1308
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,520
background the full background has been

1309
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,160
being conducted obviously the approval

1310
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,960
will be pending his full background

1311
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,079
coming back. We're very excited that he

1312
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:58,240
soil has back out and wants to serve

1313
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,079
this community as well as soon.

1314
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:04,160
>> Thank you.

1315
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,760
>> You you bring up a point that's

1316
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,720
concerning to me. If we're being outbid

1317
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,039
by that much in general, not everybody

1318
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:13,039
is going to say, "Hey, I'd rather work

1319
01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:14,079
in Hoover Town."

1320
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:16,079
>> That's absolutely correct. you know, and

1321
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:18,400
that's something that last year we were

1322
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,760
I was proud to address the part-time um

1323
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,799
payroll for part-time employees, and I

1324
01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:27,039
think that helped greatly, especially

1325
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:28,960
for our current part-time staff, because

1326
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,599
they certainly appreciate that bump that

1327
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:33,680
we are able to provide them. But yeah,

1328
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,160
this is another small village that has a

1329
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,559
lot more crime, the one that pays um $10

1330
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:43,200
an hour or more for part-time employees.

1331
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,359
Um yeah, we're fortunate. You know, we

1332
01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:47,599
don't have that, but we still need the

1333
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:49,599
same exact personnel that they do with

1334
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:51,680
the training. So, yeah, certainly

1335
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,000
something that our head has.

1336
01:06:54,000 --> 01:07:02,630
>> Okay. Thank you.

1337
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,240
Moving on to fire.

1338
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,000
>> Yes. Move on to improvement.

1339
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,039
>> Um just briefly, no notable little

1340
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:11,039
stuff. Uh there's a lot of discussion

1341
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,280
when we met about the fire down at the

1342
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,240
uh the lakefront there. Uh the

1343
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,039
conclusion is is that it was electrical

1344
01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:22,720
in origin and all that. Uh pretty heroic

1345
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,000
effort by the people who come out at

1346
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,400
3:00 3:00 in the morning to address

1347
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,440
those type of those types of issues. And

1348
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,920
again they deserve you know they deserve

1349
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,760
uh a grat our gratitude and whatever way

1350
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,680
we can do that I don't have to do this

1351
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,359
process for

1352
01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:45,599
>> I'm looking forward to your drafting of

1353
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:48,000
these commenations because obviously

1354
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,200
with your police experience you know how

1355
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:51,920
to do

1356
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,599
>> I was an English major

1357
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:55,839
>> and you you're a double whammy there.

1358
01:07:55,839 --> 01:07:58,240
You got it.

1359
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,599
Uh there were 29 fire calls, 14 within

1360
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:03,839
the village. Uh other than the fire down

1361
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:07,039
at lakefront, nothing nothing on the

1362
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:15,760
other side of the house with EMS. They were summoned 118 118 times during the month of July and saddled

1363
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,480
with their responsibilities for the uh

1364
01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:21,839
the induction the induction weekend

1365
01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:23,839
uh and the special events that take

1366
01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:26,000
place. I think the latest finger event

1367
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,319
was the triathlon on the on the on the

1368
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:31,600
lake and again hats off to that group

1369
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,520
because they just do an extraord

1370
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,470
extraordinary job.

1371
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:40,560
» Any questions, comments on the public

1372
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,960
safety report.

1373
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,600
Motion to accept the public safety

1374
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,600
committee by Molly, second by

1375
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,359
um Cindy. All in favor? I

1376
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,279
>> may I bring I don't know if this is a

1377
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,239
time point of this records uh document

1378
01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:00,319
is that something nice

1379
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:02,640
>> yeah we haven't gotten Yep you're right

1380
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:03,520
we did

1381
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,480
>> it was appended to the public safety

1382
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:10,560
>> oh right that's in your packet and it

1383
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,799
looks like this

1384
01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:14,400
um

1385
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,640
is there any questions comments while

1386
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,600
Jess is here about this it came up I

1387
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,839
think last month but we didn't have this

1388
01:09:21,839 --> 01:09:24,239
in front of us. So now you have the

1389
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:28,000
actual resolution that we would approve.

1390
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,839
>> Yeah. I was just going to ask Jess if

1391
01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:32,159
you could give us your views of this

1392
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:34,400
system. Do you think it's value added to

1393
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:34,880
your

1394
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,080
>> Yes, absolutely. So I'm sorry that

1395
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,719
wasn't available the first reading of it

1396
01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:42,319
when I forwarded it over to the village

1397
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:45,520
clerk. I attended a full day course on

1398
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:49,920
1/4 of records at um Syracuse University

1399
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,799
and the presenters were very specific to

1400
01:09:52,799 --> 01:09:55,840
New York State law and how it applies to

1401
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,480
us being a steward and releasing public

1402
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:00,480
records. One of the items that came up

1403
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:03,280
from the uh New York State Archives, the

1404
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,000
state library is the fact that every

1405
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,960
municipality New York State state law

1406
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,440
covering their e electronic records

1407
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:13,679
their electronic signatures creating

1408
01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:16,159
paper. We're going for more paperless

1409
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:20,000
electronic documents. The municipalities

1410
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,080
are not covered under that law that has

1411
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,679
already been passed. They would have to

1412
01:10:23,679 --> 01:10:25,920
adopt this document which they provided

1413
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,320
and I reached out to the archives to

1414
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,239
make sure that we have all of that. Each

1415
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:33,040
municipality would adopt that to then

1416
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,080
allow those records to be electronically

1417
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,080
signed and stand up in court for

1418
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,280
whatever reason being. I believe our

1419
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,239
universal traffic tickets that are

1420
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:45,920
operated by New York State. I believe

1421
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,000
that applies there. of art. We have e

1422
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,840
signature that go on there. But any

1423
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,800
other document that I generate for local

1424
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,560
court or anything else, we may then or

1425
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,800
to the e version of that electronic

1426
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,360
version as the original. Um and we can

1427
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,679
kind of we're working on to revise our

1428
01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:06,080
record section, but we generate a lot of

1429
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,920
documents and I'm trying to get more and

1430
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,120
more people to go electronic and get it

1431
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,600
scanned, get it recycled, securely

1432
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,199
shredded and recycled. So um by adding

1433
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:19,120
this I think that could help every

1434
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,159
department not just the police

1435
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:21,840
department but every department and

1436
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,760
entity within the village to then have

1437
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,360
that strength of resolution to utilize

1438
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,960
electronic documentation.

1439
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,840
>> So this would not be specific to our

1440
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,560
department. It would be specific to the

1441
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,360
entire village record.

1442
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,640
>> That's what I understand. Yes.

1443
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,719
Not a slave. That was my question as

1444
01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:44,640
well, whether we were approving this

1445
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,480
specifically for the Coopertown Police

1446
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:48,640
Department or whether we were approving

1447
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,000
it for all

1448
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,800
>> Coopertown. That resolution was

1449
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,000
entitywide as the the village board of

1450
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,520
Gooerstown passes that resolution. Every

1451
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,360
one that pulled under the village

1452
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,000
government would now apply for the

1453
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,880
electronic document fee. I mean,

1454
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,800
>> so it's not just for police records,

1455
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,040
it's for any government record,

1456
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,040
>> right? So, and I can appreciate the

1457
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,880
value of it. I just don't know. Do we

1458
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,719
need to consult with the rest of

1459
01:12:16,719 --> 01:12:19,360
>> Yeah, I think we better because um this

1460
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,239
came up to a degree in the finance in

1461
01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:24,880
the treasures and we do have like a

1462
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,960
seven-year policy

1463
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,640
>> and uh so it's not necessarily something

1464
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,159
that

1465
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:35,120
you know it'd be very the quantity of

1466
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,239
our financial records would rapidly fill

1467
01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:42,000
this building. Um and you know our data

1468
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,320
systems um it's not all digitized all of

1469
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,080
that financial records

1470
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,400
>> like I to me it makes sense if we want

1471
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,560
to move forward for the sake of your

1472
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,040
department in the third blank to fill in

1473
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,760
Coopertown Police Department and then to

1474
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,159
return to this. But I too concerned

1475
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:01,920
about financial records.

1476
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,239
>> Oh yeah. And it's certainly not they're

1477
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:07,040
calling for bucks to go paperless.

1478
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,600
No, no. Yeah. The ability to then

1479
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,760
generate or provide any document. So, if

1480
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,679
I were to email it over to another

1481
01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:15,600
entity, for example, if it has our

1482
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,360
signature on it, it would be the same as

1483
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,560
or considered an original. Um, cuz some

1484
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,320
entities, believe it or not, 2020 states

1485
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,080
when I was sending documents to New York

1486
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,199
State DCJS, they're requiring the hard

1487
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:30,080
copy. Well, so that that's exactly what

1488
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,640
concerned me is the last sentence that

1489
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,920
is on this page because it indicates

1490
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,480
that paper copies will be convenience

1491
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:39,120
copies,

1492
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:39,920
>> disposed of

1493
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,120
>> and disposed of um

1494
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,400
>> and and we know in some cases that they

1495
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,800
are more than convenience copies. They

1496
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,880
are considered the the copy. So it was

1497
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,760
that last sentence particularly as I was

1498
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,360
thinking about finance, as we think

1499
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,840
about invoices that are born digital but

1500
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:01,520
which we print. Um we need to know that

1501
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,000
those printed copies carry the same

1502
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,040
weight as the the digital copies and

1503
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,920
that may be true for you as well.

1504
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,920
>> Yeah. Like we know which ones because

1505
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,760
like a lot of my original um wet paid

1506
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,520
wet copies I would call it do go

1507
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,760
directly to the court if it's to that.

1508
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,400
So my then I have a whole jacket a case

1509
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,800
jacket of copies that would have the

1510
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,520
same if the court does in fact lose

1511
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,520
those. They're apparently under a lot of

1512
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,360
workload right now. So

1513
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:31,760
>> yeah,

1514
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,159
>> they would again my other copies would

1515
01:14:34,159 --> 01:14:36,960
be considered by law an original.

1516
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,120
>> So I don't believe this this resolution

1517
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,239
at all calling for a paper list or um

1518
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:44,800
you must go by this date. It just gives

1519
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,960
I understood it and we can certainly get

1520
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,080
more um guidance from the state archives

1521
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,480
that it would allow us to you to have

1522
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:54,960
that option and have that other layer of

1523
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,760
protection under the law that gives it.

1524
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,000
So that's was my understanding.

1525
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,640
>> Yeah. I two thoughts on that. This last

1526
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,560
sentence has a lot of meat on it.

1527
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,840
>> Yeah. Yeah, it sure does.

1528
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,840
>> It's shall be deemed convenience copies

1529
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,159
are disposed of when no longer needed

1530
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:11,920
for reference or other administrative

1531
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,360
purposes. and the administrative

1532
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,560
purposes means we need that as the the

1533
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,120
record for us. It's it's

1534
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,640
>> sort of got an internal contradiction.

1535
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,199
The second point I have, Cindy, I might

1536
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:25,040
be missing something, but it doesn't

1537
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,800
talk about departments. It talks about

1538
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,560
>> Yeah, it's the government. That's I was

1539
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:29,840
wondering how you just make this

1540
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,239
Coopertown Village Police Department

1541
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:34,400
because it's totally talking government.

1542
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,679
I think we need a little more background

1543
01:15:37,679 --> 01:15:41,199
information on this. Um it and maybe

1544
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:43,040
draft something that might be applicable

1545
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,960
to the police.

1546
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,800
>> That would work under the state law that

1547
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,679
would allow us to have a policy so that

1548
01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:51,679
we could specifically be that entity.

1549
01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:53,840
>> Yeah. And why don't we begin there? But

1550
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,840
I think some we need a little more

1551
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,760
information

1552
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,080
>> documents from the records retention

1553
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,510
people.

1554
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,840
Well, I'm just wonder to follow up on

1555
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,640
that more information

1556
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,440
>> if I know you had those training

1557
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:12,640
conferences. I don't know if this would

1558
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,560
be a topic at training to see how double

1559
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,199
wide this policy

1560
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:20,800
schedules. Obviously, we know we can't

1561
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,360
get rid of these held. So, I think this

1562
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,600
is something

1563
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,679
>> this is specific to digital.

1564
01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:28,880
>> It was born digital.

1565
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,920
>> It's totally digital. um perhaps gather

1566
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,080
a little more information, bring it to

1567
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,000
public safety and back to the village

1568
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,000
board next month and we'll look into

1569
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,000
this further. I don't think we're ready

1570
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,000
to take an action on it.

1571
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,400
>> Absolutely. Happy to do so.

1572
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,470
>> Thank you so much, Jess.

1573
01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:51,040
And the only other thing that um would

1574
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,920
have been under police committee is um I

1575
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,159
had brought up the compact car

1576
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:00,880
definition because we have it in our um

1577
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,920
our village law. Um but we don't have a

1578
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,520
definition. So I had begun to draft one.

1579
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,000
Uh I don't believe anything further was

1580
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,640
done on that but I will work or did was

1581
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:13,120
it?

1582
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,159
>> Yeah, it was I may have it in my packet.

1583
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:18,560
If not, could you quickly produce copies

1584
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:19,520
for everybody?

1585
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,280
>> Yeah, I can print that as well if you'd

1586
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,880
like with the hard copies or I can

1587
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,400
verbalize it as well.

1588
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:24,719
>> Yeah,

1589
01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:28,080
>> I know. I can certainly go print that off because I sent that over to

1590
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,960
George this morning before our meeting.

1591
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,760
So, there is in fact no, there was a

1592
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,520
question I know he had about the

1593
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,360
definition in New York State vehicle

1594
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,239
travel. There is no specific definition

1595
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:42,960
of a compact vehicle. What we had

1596
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:49,040
located was the um EPA has a cubic size

1597
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,679
space but interior cubic space of the

1598
01:17:51,679 --> 01:17:54,560
vehicle. I would suggest potentially

1599
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,640
going by the wheelbase. That's something

1600
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,360
on the exterior that can be checked by

1601
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,679
my enforcement officers. They do believe

1602
01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:04,080
it or not carry a ruler. We have already

1603
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,080
a minute to measure how far off the curb

1604
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,560
they are. So if we would define it as a

1605
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,440
village uh the wheelbase the standard

1606
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:13,600
wheelbase and in this email it says

1607
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,760
between a 96 and 103 I believe that will

1608
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,960
give us an exterior quantitative number

1609
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,880
for how compact vehicle and then it

1610
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,000
would be an because we're not

1611
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,159
contradicting state law by that and I'm

1612
01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:28,560
not

1613
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,280
>> right I I last month found that and I

1614
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,600
said obviously our poor um public safety

1615
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,760
can't measure cubic feet within a

1616
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:36,560
vehicle

1617
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,120
But there were communities that defined

1618
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,000
it. But this came up because we, for

1619
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,000
those who might have missed that, we

1620
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,800
have a compact cars only uh signage sort

1621
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,560
of in front of, you know, the former

1622
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,080
church and Scott building at and it's

1623
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,800
not I've been told we can't enforce it

1624
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,480
because we don't have the definition and

1625
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:00,239
we don't have it in our vehicle and

1626
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:03,280
traffic laws. So, we need to do that,

1627
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,760
set a public hearing to define a compact

1628
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,600
car and to establish that parking space

1629
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:16,400
that's already labeled um for that. The

1630
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,360
um other municipality I'd seen had an

1631
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,120
actual dimension. It might have been

1632
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,760
wheelbase, but it's it talked about and

1633
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,960
the comp did talk about the cubic feet

1634
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,320
or of of the interior, but it also

1635
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,920
talked about 17 ft or less, 16 ft or

1636
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,199
less. Um, many of the trucks that are

1637
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:39,440
out there now are actually in violation

1638
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:44,000
of our 20 foot maximum on our street.

1639
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,400
And when a 20

1640
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,600
foot plus truck parks in that spot,

1641
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,679
you're imperiling

1642
01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:54,320
pedestrians trying to cross on the

1643
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,800
sidewalk, the crosswalk there. And you

1644
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,120
know that intersection that they were a

1645
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,080
standard pickup truck. It wasn't

1646
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,400
extended. It had no additions to it.

1647
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,560
that was parked in a diag diagonal spot

1648
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,880
in front of the hall that was impeding

1649
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:12,000
traffic because cars had to go on the

1650
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,239
other lane and it was backing up to the

1651
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:17,040
flag pole that I checked and that was he

1652
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,040
was up to the curb. He still received a

1653
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,040
citation for his parking space because

1654
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,920
it was over the footage and no only one

1655
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,600
lane could get past out main street.

1656
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,719
This is a couple months ago. So it's

1657
01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:29,920
>> yeah.

1658
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,360
>> All right. So for um let's set a um

1659
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,120
public hearing for um our September 28th

1660
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:42,080
meeting to um you know approve a compact

1661
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,719
car definition that will be both for our

1662
01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:46,159
zoning and for our

1663
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:48,560
>> zoning was not in favor of of adding the

1664
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,000
definition to the zoning law

1665
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,520
>> even though it's in there

1666
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,360
>> because it gives discretion to the

1667
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,320
planning board on unusual lots. Okay,

1668
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,400
then fine. Then we would just do it for

1669
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,880
the vehicle and traffic law and that and

1670
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:02,640
in particular that space.

1671
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:03,679
>> Yep.

1672
01:21:03,679 --> 01:21:05,520
>> All right. So second

1673
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:10,470
>> second by Joe. All in favor?

1674
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:11,360
» Perfect.

1675
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,440
>> Happy to write it up just

1676
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:17,350
>> where it goes.

1677
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,760
» Yeah, I say I'll work with George on

1678
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,159
public safety on it.

1679
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:24,800
>> Great. Thank you.

1680
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,640
multiaceted

1681
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,080
wonderful.

1682
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,040
>> All right, moving on. Other committee

1683
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,800
reports

1684
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,320
double day.

1685
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,199
>> Yeah, we had a pretty busy meeting for

1686
01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:40,719
double day. Um Mr. Kurpin said that the

1687
01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:42,159
field has been pretty busy with

1688
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:44,320
tournaments this summer, which is good

1689
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,000
to hear.

1690
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,640
um for the friends of double day update.

1691
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,600
Um I believe last month we talked about

1692
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:56,159
the painted side on the outfield um of

1693
01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:02,719
the stadium there that was friends home in baseball. I guess back in the I

1694
01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:06,560
want to say early 1930s 40s 50s and 60s

1695
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,320
there was a painted sign that said I

1696
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,040
think birthplace of baseball and uh we

1697
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,719
would like to change that to the home of

1698
01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:15,600
baseball. I want to say Mr. cats or Jeff

1699
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,920
Catz and Vinnie Russo are going to work

1700
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,520
together to kind of figure out the

1701
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,920
dimensions about how big that sign would

1702
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,239
be and exactly where we go on the

1703
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:26,880
outfield. So, and when we get that,

1704
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,719
we'll come back and I guess we can vote

1705
01:22:28,719 --> 01:22:33,040
on whether or not we can put that on

1706
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:37,280
there. Um, and we also talked about the

1707
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,320
uh double D

1708
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,199
museum, I guess. Was it you, Ellen, that

1709
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:43,840
maybe?

1710
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,080
>> Well, I actually I think Jeff might have

1711
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,280
said museum in the bathroom area. I had

1712
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,400
brought up the um former field manager's

1713
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:56,000
office and I hadn't said museum.

1714
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,840
It said sort of like a history

1715
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,040
interpretive center for with panels for

1716
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,880
tourists so that they could understand

1717
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,120
the history of

1718
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,280
>> I brought it up that we could maybe use

1719
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,159
one of the field managers offices but I

1720
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:12,800
guess it seems like they all or all the

1721
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,920
offices are being used currently.

1722
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,159
You know, I saw that and I I think I'd

1723
01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:20,639
like to follow up on that because until

1724
01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:25,199
we third phase building and I hope most

1725
01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:27,440
of you have seen the Gil Manager's

1726
01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:32,159
office, it's really big. Um, and that

1727
01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:36,000
space he was in previously in the 1939

1728
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,920
building was his office space. There is

1729
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,760
storage space under the uh stadium

1730
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:49,679
seating at the third base pavilion. So I should think that there might be other

1731
01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:51,280
um

1732
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,960
space for storage and that

1733
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,159
is a very visually attractive place to

1734
01:23:58,159 --> 01:24:00,480
potentially welcome tourists and give

1735
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:03,280
them interpreting centers

1736
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,320
there. So, I'd like to I think the

1737
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:07,840
doubleA committee might want to look

1738
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,280
into that a little more.

1739
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:10,960
>> Okay, sounds good. I'll bring it back up

1740
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,760
to them. Um, and I guess once we figure

1741
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,840
out where that museum will be, our

1742
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,719
little um little area,

1743
01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:21,520
we'll kind of have to let Jeff Catz know

1744
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,719
so he can uh start some fundraising.

1745
01:24:24,719 --> 01:24:27,199
Uh, let's see. The St. Louis Cardinals

1746
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:30,320
fantasy camp weekend is coming spring of

1747
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,120
next year and uh we were talking about

1748
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,520
maybe publicly promoting the event but I

1749
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,920
guess in the past St. Louis Cardinals

1750
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,840
really haven't wanted a big

1751
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,639
>> don't want to be really being promoted

1752
01:24:42,639 --> 01:24:44,880
so I guess we probably won't really do

1753
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,159
that.

1754
01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:49,199
>> Um Hall of Fame weekend was pretty good

1755
01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:52,080
uh pretty good ground for the Hall of

1756
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:57,600
Fame. Um, and one of the new businesses

1757
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,400
that I'm excited for is the uh asset

1758
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,080
generation shoot with Casp Majestic.

1759
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,600
It's just going to be happen happening

1760
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,199
in about a month. Uh, mainly a double

1761
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:11,199
day field. They're basically going to be

1762
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:14,719
shooting some shots between 7 and 10

1763
01:25:14,719 --> 01:25:18,000
a.m. on the field. I guess it's kind of

1764
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,280
gonna help promote tourism to the double

1765
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,040
day field.

1766
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,080
Um, and then we were talking about I

1767
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,880
guess there was some company I forget

1768
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,159
exactly which company they had reached

1769
01:25:32,159 --> 01:25:34,880
out to Marsha and I and they were hoping

1770
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,760
to maybe have a barbecue uh set up for

1771
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,000
induction weekend next year. They were

1772
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,040
hoping to serve about 200 800 people on

1773
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,520
the Saturday afternoon of induction

1774
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,120
weekend. used to mention,

1775
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,600
>> but we

1776
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,000
were trying to figure out which location

1777
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,040
to do it in and we were we couldn't

1778
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,800
really come up with a location that

1779
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,000
could serve up to 800 people

1780
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,719
and yeah, we were talking about Fowler

1781
01:26:02,719 --> 01:26:07,440
Pavilion or Lake Park and we said

1782
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:11,280
there's probably no way. Then we told I

1783
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:12,719
think someone was gonna tell the company

1784
01:26:12,719 --> 01:26:14,719
if they really want to do the county or

1785
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:16,719
do it in Coopertown, maybe reach out to

1786
01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:19,440
the county, they do it on the county

1787
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:21,920
lawn.

1788
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,760
And that's really all um Oh, we also

1789
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,280
talked about I guess this the same

1790
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,880
company wanted to have blacks

1791
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,600
commemorating uh the customers that have

1792
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,639
visited all 30 major league stadiums in

1793
01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:38,960
the US. But and I guess they wanted to

1794
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,600
put it on double be feel and we all were

1795
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,920
like that no

1796
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,719
that's not appropriate.

1797
01:26:46,719 --> 01:26:48,960
Well that's really all we all we

1798
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:53,520
discussed about our double date

1799
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,360
uh meeting. Yes, slide three.

1800
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,199
>> On the um additional agenda,

1801
01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:06,880
there is um the we'd like to consider um

1802
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,239
increasing the nonrefundable application

1803
01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:12,000
fee for the double day field

1804
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,760
application.

1805
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,239
What you have in your packet are two

1806
01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:19,920
pages. one um if you look at it and kind

1807
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,280
of look the fees funds you understand

1808
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,280
our policies

1809
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:29,920
and there's also a sheet that indicates

1810
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,920
the refunds that were given. Now

1811
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,199
remember if you're you get at least four

1812
01:27:35,199 --> 01:27:38,560
innings in we don't cancel some of these

1813
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,280
you don't even get those four innings.

1814
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,120
Um, so we processed applications and

1815
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,800
each funded $10,720

1816
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,719
thus far this year. So this becomes a

1817
01:27:52,719 --> 01:27:54,880
bit of an administrative

1818
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:59,280
burden for $25. It's uh ties up our

1819
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,840
deputy clerk. It um ties up our finance,

1820
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,159
our treasures department, cutting those

1821
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:08,400
checks, you know, all the approvals,

1822
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:13,280
etc. So um this was discussed at finance

1823
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,080
and it seemed rather than you know any

1824
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:20,960
pro rating etc that um increasing the

1825
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,840
$25 fee Marsha said they wouldn't even

1826
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,199
probably bat an eye if it was $75. But

1827
01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:30,560
it does seem that the village um in

1828
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,960
recognition of all the work involved by

1829
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,239
our staff to both these games, handle

1830
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:39,280
the correspondence, then issue refunds

1831
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:46,390
etc. is certainly more than $25.

1832
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,320
» So I understand how that would work with

1833
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,360
single games. So they would pay I would

1834
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,000
even say a $100 non-refundable

1835
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,120
application fee. How does it work with

1836
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:01,600
tournament tournament games? Um, do they

1837
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:06,000
pay an application fee plus 5%

1838
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,040
non-refundable de deposit? Looking at

1839
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,800
the fees that are included in our

1840
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,199
packet. Um,

1841
01:29:13,199 --> 01:29:17,760
>> right. The that means that

1842
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,679
can that's if they cancel. Are you

1843
01:29:19,679 --> 01:29:25,840
talking about the 90% refund? No, I'm on page three of what's in our

1844
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,960
packet. So, it says single games, $25

1845
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,199
non-refundable application fee paid when

1846
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:32,960
applying for a game.

1847
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,600
>> And then tournament games, it says 5%

1848
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,679
non-refundable deposit due with

1849
01:29:37,679 --> 01:29:39,679
application. So, do they not pay an

1850
01:29:39,679 --> 01:29:40,800
application fee?

1851
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,320
>> No, everybody pays the $25. But what

1852
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,520
you're saying there is they just do that

1853
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,360
um paid when applying for a game. You

1854
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,840
don't you do that but if for the

1855
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,280
tournament games

1856
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,120
>> the 5% nonrefundable disposit due with

1857
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:00,400
application.

1858
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,800
>> What's the difference between a

1859
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,639
non-refundable deposit and a

1860
01:30:04,639 --> 01:30:06,320
non-refundable application?

1861
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,639
>> That's I guess a better way to state the

1862
01:30:08,639 --> 01:30:11,840
question that it is that some of those

1863
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:15,360
are like $3,000. No, I mean the term

1864
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,320
art, but we have an a non-refundable

1865
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,400
application fee and then we have a

1866
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,880
non-refundable deposit.

1867
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,120
I don't know what the difference. I

1868
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,560
mean, they all they all go to our

1869
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,199
administration, right?

1870
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:30,960
You see the different words. I'm I'm

1871
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,639
just focusing on the different words in

1872
01:30:32,639 --> 01:30:34,159
each.

1873
01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:38,239
>> Yeah, you're right. Um I don't know. I

1874
01:30:38,239 --> 01:30:42,639
can't reach out. Marca explained that.

1875
01:30:42,639 --> 01:30:43,600
>> Yes.

1876
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,760
per plus tournaments have to do that 5%

1877
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,440
because they're much larger. They take

1878
01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:50,159
up like tons of spots. So they they're

1879
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:51,520
required to put down even more.

1880
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,800
>> It's a deposit on their rental. So say

1881
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:59,040
they um have booked three games or four

1882
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,760
games, it'll be $2,000.

1883
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:06,880
So they have to put 5% of that

1884
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,400
$2,000.

1885
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,639
So, I would just suggest including the

1886
01:31:10,639 --> 01:31:13,600
line about the refundable non-refundable

1887
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,280
application fee, whatever amount we

1888
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:20,080
decide on in both both columns because I

1889
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,000
>> That's exactly right. That was the

1890
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,920
recommendation of finance that it not be

1891
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,280
predicated on your games or how many you

1892
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:33,520
did. It's a administrative fee is what

1893
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,120
we wanted it to be,

1894
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,360
>> right? And I guess

1895
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,199
we're really talking about a not less

1896
01:31:39,199 --> 01:31:41,760
than number if the 5% non-refundable

1897
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,440
deposit is it cannot be less than the 75

1898
01:31:45,440 --> 01:31:47,440
or $100 whatever we're charging.

1899
01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:49,199
>> Well, I assume it's both. I assume it's

1900
01:31:49,199 --> 01:31:53,679
the application fee plus 5%

1901
01:31:53,679 --> 01:31:57,360
was very

1902
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,280
clear from the way this is written to

1903
01:31:59,280 --> 01:31:59,760
me.

1904
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,440
>> What is the dollar amount on the

1905
01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:03,920
non-refundable application fee we were

1906
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,870
suggesting?

1907
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,080
suggested 75.

1908
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:09,120
>> Yeah. So, what's

1909
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,800
>> said they wouldn't bet an eye.

1910
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,320
>> So, what's this 25? Is that something

1911
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,239
we're just going to change? Right.

1912
01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:16,320
>> That is what it currently is no matter

1913
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:17,840
how much they book.

1914
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,520
>> Right. And so, we're talking about

1915
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:24,239
changing that. But the one that had me scratching my head

1916
01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:28,639
was the 5% non-refundable deposit.

1917
01:32:28,639 --> 01:32:30,239
It's always going to be more than the

1918
01:32:30,239 --> 01:32:32,480
$75.

1919
01:32:32,480 --> 01:32:34,960
Correct.

1920
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,960
I believe if I understand correctly what

1921
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,360
we're proposing is it be in addition to

1922
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:39,840
the fee

1923
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,880
>> there isation fee whether you do book

1924
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,199
single games or tournament games it's

1925
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:47,040
called an administrative fee and it

1926
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,080
would be $75. So then is the for

1927
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,280
tournament games is that that fee that

1928
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:57,199
25% application fee each or $25 each

1929
01:32:57,199 --> 01:32:59,920
game or the total number of games

1930
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:02,159
>> there's a onetime application fee for

1931
01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:03,920
tournaments but tournaments are have to

1932
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,000
be so many games. So that's going to

1933
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:10,480
require 5% out of the $25 application.

1934
01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:13,120
>> Okay, which is now going to be 75 of the

1935
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,440
application. Tournaments have so many

1936
01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:17,199
games we ask them to pay an additional

1937
01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:19,120
fee. because they take up a lot of

1938
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:20,560
schedule.

1939
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,480
>> So they have to pay that as you

1940
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:26,960
>> so it's 75 bucks in each case plus less

1941
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,840
the 5% in the deposit.

1942
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,760
>> So the recommendation was a $75

1943
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,800
administrative fee. So even if they get

1944
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,960
all their money back for a rain,

1945
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,840
the village is left with something

1946
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,440
besides

1947
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:46,320
$25.

1948
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,639
>> Yeah. Yeah, as as is correct, we didn't

1949
01:33:48,639 --> 01:33:49,840
all that. We'll

1950
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:51,600
>> schedule them the paperwork and whatever

1951
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,199
and it's not our fault either that

1952
01:33:53,199 --> 01:33:54,080
they're ranked out.

1953
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:55,760
>> So, I think we're we have what we want

1954
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,080
to do, but we need to articulate it in.

1955
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,040
>> Well, we'll have um Marshall do that,

1956
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,840
but essentially what we are saying is

1957
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,400
I'll move that we set a $75

1958
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:10,560
nonrefundable administrative fee when

1959
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,400
applying for um the games, you know,

1960
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,159
field regions.

1961
01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:17,920
Um, is there a second?

1962
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:19,440
>> No question. Does that include applying

1963
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:21,520
for a tournament

1964
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,880
>> then? That there's that's something

1965
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,400
separate, right, Jenna? That

1966
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,560
>> Yeah, that 5% of that is the

1967
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:29,600
administrative fee.

1968
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,960
>> I was going to say there should be let's

1969
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,880
Okay. 75 if that's what you'd like. I

1970
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,239
prefer Audrey, but $75 non-refundable

1971
01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:40,560
administrative fee. When making an

1972
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,520
application for a game or tournament or

1973
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,400
a tournament, there's an additional 5%.

1974
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,360
Make it clear, use the word additional,

1975
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,600
not nonrefundable deposit to the

1976
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:52,480
application.

1977
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:54,880
>> Yeah. So, that doesn't change. We've

1978
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,639
been a little fixated on that. We're

1979
01:34:56,639 --> 01:34:59,840
essentially a $75 administrative fee

1980
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:02,880
whether you book one game or you book

1981
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,800
four games in a tournament, but they

1982
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,040
have additional fees if they book four

1983
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:10,239
games for. Further clarification. So in

1984
01:35:10,239 --> 01:35:13,520
our example there we have a $600 gain.

1985
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,880
Is that does the $75 come out of the 600

1986
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,440
or is it $600 and $75?

1987
01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:22,639
>> It's an administrative fee so that if we

1988
01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:25,920
they are rained out um and our office

1989
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,719
has not only processed that worked with

1990
01:35:28,719 --> 01:35:31,600
the double day field manager scheduled

1991
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,080
everything put in the time then they get

1992
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,280
rained out. and our finance department

1993
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:41,840
has to cut the check, handle all that is

1994
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,800
to cover our office time and

1995
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,159
>> right I get that

1996
01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:47,520
>> has nothing to do with nothing to do

1997
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,679
with the rate. The rate is the rate per

1998
01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:52,159
game. The administrative fee is the fee

1999
01:35:52,159 --> 01:35:54,800
for making an application. That's all.

2000
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,520
Well, it's it's not quite that all

2001
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,560
because I'm assuming it in the

2002
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:02,960
tournament game the 5% non-refundable

2003
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,159
deposit

2004
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:05,760
>> that's been that that is

2005
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,360
>> right that is there but in the event of

2006
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,440
a cancellation I thought they get all

2007
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:13,360
their money back less the 5,000 the 5%

2008
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,639
nonable deposit the whole point is that

2009
01:36:16,639 --> 01:36:18,719
the deposit is against the full price of

2010
01:36:18,719 --> 01:36:20,880
your tournament it's a deposit

2011
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:21,280
>> right

2012
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,840
>> so it's not an additional fee it's it's

2013
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:27,760
so in the event of a rain out we keep 5%

2014
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,760
>> when it's a tournament

2015
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,400
>> but that's book like four days

2016
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,080
>> right no and I'm saying that's fine I'm

2017
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,840
just not I don't know that we're clear

2018
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:36,239
on

2019
01:36:36,239 --> 01:36:37,840
>> so we're talking about adding an

2020
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,639
additional fee that would be above and

2021
01:36:40,639 --> 01:36:42,639
beyond that deposit that everyone would

2022
01:36:42,639 --> 01:36:46,400
make and it would be above the the field

2023
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:47,520
rental

2024
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,080
>> so it's going to be

2025
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:54,000
for a tournament it's going to be $75 $5

2026
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,080
per application or per game?

2027
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:57,440
>> Per application.

2028
01:36:57,440 --> 01:37:00,159
>> Okay. Plus the And then we we retain we

2029
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:02,880
get that and we retain 5% of the total

2030
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,320
that they pass. And on the single gate,

2031
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:07,679
we're going to get we're going to keep

2032
01:37:07,679 --> 01:37:09,520
$75 of whatever they had passed. But

2033
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,320
>> the easiest way is once the approved, it

2034
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:21,760
will go up here. except allove above all um field scheduling and rentals $75.

2035
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,560
So then you aren't having a confusion on

2036
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,480
>> Yeah. And so this will be my last

2037
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:28,880
question. I'm I'm sorry I'm thick. In

2038
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:32,320
the first bullet example, will this now

2039
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,760
$600 gain result in a check being sent

2040
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,910
to the village for $675?

2041
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,159
» We usually do separate checks. So you

2042
01:37:42,159 --> 01:37:45,040
apply with the $25 which is currently

2043
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,040
with the application. Then as we set

2044
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:48,719
their dates, they give us the final

2045
01:37:48,719 --> 01:37:51,600
payment by April or May. So there's two

2046
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,360
separate check sheets coming in. One is

2047
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,639
the application fee, one is the game. So

2048
01:37:56,639 --> 01:37:58,880
it's not a $675 check. It would be a

2049
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,560
$600 and a $75.

2050
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,320
>> Okay. But okay, but it ends up being

2051
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:03,920
$675.

2052
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,960
>> The 75 is not credited against the 600.

2053
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,480
And what what happens when we have a

2054
01:38:08,480 --> 01:38:10,080
tournament scheduled, multi-day

2055
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,000
tournament, and the first day gets

2056
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,560
rained out?

2057
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:15,920
They don't get anything back for the

2058
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,280
whole tournament, do they?

2059
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,639
>> They get credits on their um days.

2060
01:38:20,639 --> 01:38:22,159
>> Yeah. Most of the time with tournament

2061
01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:23,920
rain, they try to squeeze in games when

2062
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,600
it's not raining. So, a it just works

2063
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,040
out with tournament. They always seem to

2064
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,360
find a way and it works out. No, we

2065
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,000
don't typically refund,

2066
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:33,840
>> right? Okay. I mean, they don't say,

2067
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,280
"Hey, we couldn't get our tournament

2068
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,239
started, so you know, we want to re we

2069
01:38:38,239 --> 01:38:40,719
want a refund for everything." Okay.

2070
01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:42,880
>> All right. I believe I made the motion

2071
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,840
and Molly seconded it. All in favor?

2072
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,800
>> I

2073
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,520
brought that one up.

2074
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:55,119
>> All right. So, that was the last action

2075
01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:57,440
under double day field. Motion to accept

2076
01:38:57,440 --> 01:39:00,239
double day field committee report

2077
01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:03,280
>> by George. Second by uh Joe. All in

2078
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:03,760
favor?

2079
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:04,960
>> I.

2080
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,520
>> Moving on to streets committee.

2081
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,280
>> Sounds good. So just to give you some

2082
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,440
updates on things that were covered in

2083
01:39:11,440 --> 01:39:14,000
the minutes. Um Bill Clark came to the

2084
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,239
meeting about water that runs down his

2085
01:39:16,239 --> 01:39:18,639
driveway onto the sidewalk and into his

2086
01:39:18,639 --> 01:39:22,480
house. So, our street crew is looking to

2087
01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:25,040
assist uh Bill as well as the neighbor

2088
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,360
with whom he shares a driveway to create

2089
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,000
a little speed hump at the entrance to

2090
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,719
the driveway so that that water is not

2091
01:39:32,719 --> 01:39:37,280
doing that. Um under trolley since we

2092
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:41,199
had this meeting um the Adiggo County

2093
01:39:41,199 --> 01:39:44,719
has received an offer from the city of

2094
01:39:44,719 --> 01:39:47,520
Oni to purchase

2095
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,000
uh the broken trolley that we have

2096
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,920
talked about month after month after

2097
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:54,159
month. Um, so that went to Common

2098
01:39:54,159 --> 01:39:56,480
Council on Thursday night and appears to

2099
01:39:56,480 --> 01:40:00,239
be moving forward um, likely at a rate

2100
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:02,320
of $7,500

2101
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,920
for them to acquire that trolley. We

2102
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,000
spent a lot of time last night talking

2103
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,920
about sports signs. You may recall if

2104
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,760
you have come into the village of

2105
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,960
Coopertown from the south, you will see

2106
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,800
that Mitch has found a solution. Um,

2107
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,280
which is to double up the signs. It's a

2108
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,760
lot of signs, but it does uh they

2109
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,440
managed to fit them all in one pole. So,

2110
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:29,280
if we like that, they can do that at the

2111
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,920
other entrances to the village. So, take

2112
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,000
note when you pass uh when you pass

2113
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:34,960
Bokeh. May

2114
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,280
>> I return to trolley for a second? I was

2115
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,080
confused by the second bullet.

2116
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,199
T citing writership. It's Is it

2117
01:40:43,199 --> 01:40:44,159
>> It's incorrect.

2118
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:46,880
>> It's There's a

2119
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,360
>> It's down

2120
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,840
by 3,200

2121
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,600
writers. I

2122
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,199
>> Anyway,

2123
01:40:55,199 --> 01:40:57,760
>> 5,800 writers and then that's down from

2124
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,000
3,000 writers.

2125
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,480
>> Yes, there there is a there is a

2126
01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:04,560
typographical error. I can look up the

2127
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:07,520
correct numbers for you.

2128
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,920
>> Well, it's okay. I just wanted to be so

2129
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,560
what were and and your the comment was

2130
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,239
that the that 6,000 and 2,000 ridership

2131
01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:18,719
is not good for us.

2132
01:41:18,719 --> 01:41:19,840
>> That is correct.

2133
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:20,800
>> Okay.

2134
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,320
>> Yeah.

2135
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,840
>> I was thought I read having been some of

2136
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:29,040
those down by

2137
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:32,639
>> it is it is down by that number.

2138
01:41:32,639 --> 01:41:33,280
>> Yes.

2139
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:34,400
>> I just confused.

2140
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:39,520
>> Yes. though from is in the wrong place. So it should

2141
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,880
be down the number from 2025.

2142
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:43,679
>> Yeah,

2143
01:41:43,679 --> 01:41:45,520
>> good catch up.

2144
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,840
>> Um

2145
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,639
in terms of sidewalks, I would like to

2146
01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:53,760
make a motion to go to bid for new

2147
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,320
sidewalks on Sesuana Avenue. You have

2148
01:41:56,320 --> 01:42:01,430
the bid documents in your packet.

2149
01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:05,119
» And where will these new

2150
01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:08,080
They are

2151
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:11,270
um

2152
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:12,400
fabulous.

2153
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,600
>> I believe it's between walnut and

2154
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:21,350
beaver.

2155
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,159
» I I walked my dog on them today.

2156
01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:26,880
>> Let me let me ask Mitch where they where

2157
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:28,560
they are. It might be the next block

2158
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:28,880
then.

2159
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:30,719
>> Yeah, then it's gonna be the next block.

2160
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:33,760
They're fabulous. Good. Great.

2161
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,840
Do you think that we think it's the next

2162
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:36,400
law?

2163
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,800
>> I will confirm with him. Cindy,

2164
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:40,320
>> you said that though that info was in

2165
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:41,760
our packet, didn't you?

2166
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:42,800
>> I thought it was.

2167
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:46,320
>> I I don't see it, but maybe

2168
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,239
>> Was it only on our streets? Maybe it was

2169
01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:51,600
just on our street agenda. I'm sorry.

2170
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,119
>> So, you like the number?

2171
01:42:53,119 --> 01:42:56,080
>> Beaver to Beaver to Elm. No, this is to

2172
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:57,199
issue the bid.

2173
01:42:57,199 --> 01:42:58,080
>> Is Oh,

2174
01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:59,679
>> we're not talking about money yet.

2175
01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:00,000
>> Okay.

2176
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:00,960
>> Beaver to Elm.

2177
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,520
Sorry, my confusion.

2178
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,320
>> No, I was going to say they were done.

2179
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,400
Whoever did them.

2180
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,719
>> No, this is just to to get quotes, which

2181
01:43:10,719 --> 01:43:14,080
we will hopefully talk about next month.

2182
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,719
Um, I've been drafting a letter related

2183
01:43:16,719 --> 01:43:19,679
to the trees that are breaking up the

2184
01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:21,760
walls of Willowbrook. Martin read it

2185
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,320
today. I think the one question is whom

2186
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:26,719
should it come from? Should it come from

2187
01:43:26,719 --> 01:43:28,480
me as chair of street? Should it come

2188
01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:30,719
from Ellen as mayor? come from Mitch as

2189
01:43:30,719 --> 01:43:33,440
DPW superintendent. I don't know whether

2190
01:43:33,440 --> 01:43:36,080
anyone has any strong feelings.

2191
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:37,840
>> Foundation question.

2192
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:41,600
>> Who owns what here? We believe the walls

2193
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:45,840
are owned by the village and the trees

2194
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,440
are obviously on the lawn of individuals

2195
01:43:49,440 --> 01:43:51,679
and it is the root system and

2196
01:43:51,679 --> 01:43:53,600
encroaching upon the law.

2197
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,719
>> Yes. So I was just we have surveys and

2198
01:43:56,719 --> 01:43:59,520
title of I mean

2199
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:00,800
>> it's not that clear

2200
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,400
>> water course because often times the

2201
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,320
property lines go to the

2202
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,320
>> my understanding but Joe I can't tell

2203
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,960
you I can be definitive is that those

2204
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,760
walls were put in by

2205
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,320
I guess we can determine

2206
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:17,679
surv

2207
01:44:17,679 --> 01:44:20,080
>> I don't think we own the property the

2208
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:21,840
because as Joe's pointing out the

2209
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,840
boundary lines often go to the center of

2210
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:25,920
the creek, but Martin Barton and I both

2211
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:27,520
believe that the village put in the

2212
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:28,880
walls,

2213
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:33,280
>> right? And so how but I it's just a

2214
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,440
puzzlement to me that we've got public

2215
01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:37,600
infrastructure on private property and

2216
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,199
now we're commanding the private

2217
01:44:39,199 --> 01:44:40,400
property owners to

2218
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,000
>> not not if we had it there was an

2219
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:43,280
easement operation. I think there must

2220
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:44,400
have been an easement.

2221
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,239
>> I think the village did many things in

2222
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:49,280
the past without getting formal. And the

2223
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:52,239
idea I mean it clearly would damage

2224
01:44:52,239 --> 01:44:56,000
infrastructure that uh preserves village

2225
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:00,719
and others property. So um

2226
01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:02,400
>> it's fine. I mean we'll wait to get a

2227
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:03,600
reaction. I'm not I don't want to hold

2228
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:04,320
that up.

2229
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,000
>> I just I think that's probably the best

2230
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:10,320
bet. I I mean that to me um but if if

2231
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,560
there if it came down to someone saying

2232
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,280
I'm not doing it. We have an obligation

2233
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,400
I think to preserve that given the fact

2234
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,040
that uh if the water runs the box

2235
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,360
somebody else is going to be damaged.

2236
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,760
Let me let me point out, Martin, again,

2237
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,560
you know, the logic here, okay? You're

2238
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,560
not you're not going to do it because

2239
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,040
you think that you own that, fine. If

2240
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,199
you own it and you're responsible for

2241
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:37,840
what it's doing, if it fails and causes

2242
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,000
problems downstream, you're going to get

2243
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,199
sued for it.

2244
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:43,040
>> The minute you tell somebody that, oh,

2245
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:46,080
wait, wait. No, I don't know. You won't.

2246
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:46,800
>> You may be right back.

2247
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:48,639
>> Do you know what I'm saying?

2248
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:52,320
The question, Richard, the question is

2249
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,400
it you can admit that it's public

2250
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,080
infrastructure, but it's on private

2251
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:58,880
property. The question is, it's up to

2252
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,040
the public entity who went onto your

2253
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:01,679
property.

2254
01:46:01,679 --> 01:46:04,080
>> Quite honestly, though, Joe, if we put

2255
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,199
that on there, we probably now own that

2256
01:46:07,199 --> 01:46:09,520
property through adverse possession.

2257
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:10,800
>> Yeah.

2258
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:15,199
>> Oh, yeah. After 10 years, we would have

2259
01:46:15,199 --> 01:46:16,800
taken that. much less.

2260
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:18,960
>> It's the same argument we have with

2261
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,760
Baller Way. Anyone who you puts a

2262
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,320
permanent structure somewhere and then

2263
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:27,119
maintains it, uses it, you know, relies

2264
01:46:27,119 --> 01:46:28,400
on it, nobody complains.

2265
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,480
>> It's Yeah, they're going to have a hard

2266
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:32,400
time proving it's theirs. And

2267
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,000
>> I'll leave that one for the Albony Law

2268
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:38,400
School first year property exam, but I'm fine. Let's get the all the

2269
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:38,719
question.

2270
01:46:38,719 --> 01:46:40,719
>> Yeah, I'm just trying to think who would

2271
01:46:40,719 --> 01:46:43,440
be the one to sign it. That That is the

2272
01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:45,679
question. If I got it from the treaty

2273
01:46:45,679 --> 01:46:47,760
committee, it doesn't bear much weight

2274
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:48,400
to me.

2275
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:48,800
>> Correct.

2276
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:50,320
>> When you think if it were the

2277
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,400
>> I would agree. Yes. I think if you're

2278
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:53,760
comfortable signing it, that would be

2279
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:54,480
the best.

2280
01:46:54,480 --> 01:46:56,080
>> Well, I think it should be from the

2281
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:58,639
village board of trustees. So, it looks

2282
01:46:58,639 --> 01:47:00,159
like a united decision.

2283
01:47:00,159 --> 01:47:00,639
>> Absolutely.

2284
01:47:00,639 --> 01:47:01,920
>> We can certainly do that.

2285
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:03,360
>> I think that's what it should be.

2286
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:04,960
>> Yeah. I'm not opposing any of this. I'm

2287
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:06,320
just saying these are the

2288
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:06,880
>> Yeah.

2289
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:08,560
>> underlying you got questions.

2290
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,159
>> Yeah. Yeah.

2291
01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:12,320
>> There's a box of easements in the vault,

2292
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:13,760
too. was anything.

2293
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,000
>> I just I just feel that we sending too

2294
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,320
many too much stuff back to the law

2295
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,000
school for the students for their mood

2296
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,159
cause.

2297
01:47:22,159 --> 01:47:24,159
>> Yeah,

2298
01:47:24,159 --> 01:47:25,760
>> we could keep we could keep them busy

2299
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,679
for years with all our discussions on

2300
01:47:27,679 --> 01:47:29,280
this.

2301
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,000
I can certainly also pull the deed on on

2302
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:33,920
the property in question and see if

2303
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,400
there's any thing that starts to explain

2304
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:43,679
it because I remember when um mom and dad we pointed that entire

2305
01:47:43,679 --> 01:47:46,239
side they did the whole wall.

2306
01:47:46,239 --> 01:47:47,360
>> Yes. Um

2307
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,520
>> certainly on that part of Willowbrook

2308
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:52,639
there is a different there there is a

2309
01:47:52,639 --> 01:47:54,960
there was a different mechanism in place

2310
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,960
for the wall. Um, but I would that's

2311
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,560
that is a wall. There's a wall behind on

2312
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,360
a budding that property

2313
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,639
that was restacked and and and

2314
01:48:08,639 --> 01:48:10,400
repointed. I would think that the

2315
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,480
property owner is not going to make a

2316
01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:15,280
case for oh I now own the property to

2317
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,600
the middle of the waterway to which I

2318
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:20,560
would say as somebody downstream oh so

2319
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,360
it's the failure of you to maintain the

2320
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,000
infrastructure that's causing my problem

2321
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:29,119
I I would never want to

2322
01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:31,920
o over three feet of property take that

2323
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,760
risk on some people might but you know

2324
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,840
it's kind of kind of stupid say I'm

2325
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:39,920
responsible this is mine. It also when

2326
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:41,600
you say this is mine, it also means I'm

2327
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:42,719
responsible for it.

2328
01:48:42,719 --> 01:48:45,040
>> Yeah.

2329
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:46,560
>> So, the board of trustee would like to

2330
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,520
send the letter requesting that the

2331
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,440
property owner take care of the trees so

2332
01:48:51,440 --> 01:48:54,239
they stop damaging the wall.

2333
01:48:54,239 --> 01:48:55,760
>> Okay. That'll be the plan.

2334
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:56,480
>> Right.

2335
01:48:56,480 --> 01:48:58,000
>> I'm sure we'll be talking about this

2336
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:03,520
more. right now in the world is that

2337
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,199
>> I don't know how widespread this problem

2338
01:49:05,199 --> 01:49:07,360
is and we just as a board of engineer

2339
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:08,960
study and look at the integrity of

2340
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,480
everything is this something that we

2341
01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:14,960
should just say you know we are looking

2342
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:17,199
at the quality of our infrastructure up

2343
01:49:17,199 --> 01:49:19,920
and down and we see encroaching trees we

2344
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,000
want we want to come on and fix we want

2345
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:23,920
to remove the tree rather than say you

2346
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,880
got to fix it because if they don't

2347
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,800
I mean it's just going to be slow burn

2348
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,000
to one some kind of failure and that

2349
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,080
doesn't really get us if we think it's

2350
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,480
important enough to get rid of the tree

2351
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:38,239
to protect what we think is our

2352
01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:39,840
infrastructure I think we ought to do

2353
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:41,600
that I don't I don't know we put that on

2354
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,560
the property just

2355
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,800
>> I agree with Joe

2356
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:50,310
>> basic

2357
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:51,920
the letter which I have not shared with

2358
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,000
you but I'm happy to do is is written in

2359
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:55,520
such a way that says we'd like to come

2360
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,440
to with we'd like to find a solution

2361
01:49:57,440 --> 01:49:59,199
It's

2362
01:49:59,199 --> 01:50:01,199
>> It's not a demanding letter. It is.

2363
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:03,199
You'll get to edit when you before you

2364
01:50:03,199 --> 01:50:03,760
sign, Joe.

2365
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:04,320
>> Yes.

2366
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,080
>> No, I I'm happy to share it with

2367
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:06,400
everyone.

2368
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:09,280
>> If we want if we want the tree down to

2369
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,080
protect our property, we should take the

2370
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:12,560
tree down.

2371
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,159
>> If it's our property and they're

2372
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:17,440
damaging it, they have an obligation.

2373
01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:18,560
>> Well, I think what we're really

2374
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,440
concerned about is downstream effects of

2375
01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:21,920
a

2376
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,360
>> That is exactly what we're concerned

2377
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:24,960
about. So, it's another property owner

2378
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:26,880
who's involved in this and and what's

2379
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:29,119
our stake in the other property owner.

2380
01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:30,639
>> Well, we are the other property owner

2381
01:50:30,639 --> 01:50:32,480
because this the stream is headed to

2382
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:34,560
Double Day Field.

2383
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:35,600
That's where it goes.

2384
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,000
>> Right through it

2385
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:39,119
underneath it

2386
01:50:39,119 --> 01:50:41,840
>> because Willow Brook is so much fun. I

2387
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,520
will tell you that we're also having an

2388
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,920
issue near the railroad in with a pipe

2389
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:47,760
that has been

2390
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:48,400
>> blocked.

2391
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:51,280
um the owner of that property

2392
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,760
is aware and when the summer season is

2393
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:58,960
over has agreed to address the problem.

2394
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,679
As I said, I'm sure we'll talk about uh

2395
01:51:01,679 --> 01:51:04,480
Willowbrook more

2396
01:51:04,480 --> 01:51:09,040
because we always we always seem to um

2397
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,199
you had and I emailed you today and I'm

2398
01:51:11,199 --> 01:51:13,360
sorry it was so late a draft of the

2399
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,360
sidewalk replacement reimbursement

2400
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,920
application procedures. Joe has provided

2401
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:19,840
some comments. Um, I don't think we're

2402
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:22,000
ready to approve this at this point and

2403
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:26,639
certainly it wouldn't go in effect until June and we would need to take it

2404
01:51:26,639 --> 01:51:28,400
into consideration with budgeting. So,

2405
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,639
if others have comments about this

2406
01:51:30,639 --> 01:51:34,480
particular draft, um, we can we can

2407
01:51:34,480 --> 01:51:36,560
hopefully approve it next month.

2408
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:37,280
Perfect.

2409
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,560
>> Okay. I just and I sent it to everybody.

2410
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,320
>> I saw it and

2411
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,560
>> I'm sorry. as he said, make sure you

2412
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:45,360
click

2413
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:49,360
>> track check uh track changes and I did

2414
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:50,000
and

2415
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:50,560
>> Okay.

2416
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,320
>> Yeah, made sense.

2417
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,560
>> The other thing that I would like to

2418
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,360
report by way of good news that might

2419
01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:59,840
fit better under grants, but it is

2420
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:01,679
certainly streets related. You may

2421
01:52:01,679 --> 01:52:04,080
recall that we put in an application

2422
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:07,679
throughout county for an infrastructure

2423
01:52:07,679 --> 01:52:10,960
um grant that county would apply for

2424
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:12,639
through the state of New York. cutives

2425
01:52:12,639 --> 01:52:14,480
for the replacement of water, sewer, and

2426
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:17,840
streets from um the county office

2427
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:21,760
building up to Grove Street. And we were

2428
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,239
the successful recipients.

2429
01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:25,599
>> Congratulations.

2430
01:52:25,599 --> 01:52:26,000
>> So,

2431
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:29,040
>> it's um Governor Hook made the

2432
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:31,280
announcement because it is through the

2433
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,280
regional economic development council,

2434
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,599
but it was county infrastructure grant

2435
01:52:35,599 --> 01:52:38,000
fund that were only available to the

2436
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,880
counties. And uh we applied for that

2437
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:46,239
last year and Ken wasn't really they did go to somewhere else, didn't

2438
01:52:46,239 --> 01:52:48,560
it? Last year did they go to Oniana or

2439
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:50,719
>> for the first time it went to Onian in

2440
01:52:50,719 --> 01:52:52,480
the first round and then we went back in

2441
01:52:52,480 --> 01:52:53,679
the second round and

2442
01:52:53,679 --> 01:52:56,320
>> and we got it. So it's about a million

2443
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,840
dollar project and we 50% covered so

2444
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:03,990
$500,000.

2445
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,000
The only um thing I just want to make

2446
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,880
sure the trustees understand about our

2447
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:12,239
trolley because I know it was at one

2448
01:53:12,239 --> 01:53:15,040
point we thought we might be able to

2449
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:18,159
recoup and keep more money from it, but

2450
01:53:18,159 --> 01:53:22,639
Nicole Ron at the county sent a u sort

2451
01:53:22,639 --> 01:53:25,119
of a summary. And if you recall, this is

2452
01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:27,599
our last trolley. This was purchased in

2453
01:53:27,599 --> 01:53:30,239
2018, so it was already eight and a

2454
01:53:30,239 --> 01:53:36,960
quarter years old. Um it uh we paid 10%

2455
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,520
about $14,000

2456
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:43,520
out of the uh $140,000 for that trolley.

2457
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:47,199
So that was our share on it. And then

2458
01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:49,199
they did a kind of straight line

2459
01:53:49,199 --> 01:53:52,400
depreciation of it. Remember this could

2460
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,639
not be

2461
01:53:54,639 --> 01:53:58,400
um kind of sold on the open competitive

2462
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,440
market because it had received 5311

2463
01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:04,080
funds the federal funds. So could only

2464
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:07,760
go to another community. Oniana is the

2465
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:11,440
most um on our depreciation on it and

2466
01:54:11,440 --> 01:54:13,360
all. We would have only gotten about

2467
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:15,920
5,000. So we're actually getting more

2468
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,560
with that $7500

2469
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,679
sale. This will be the last trolley that

2470
01:54:21,679 --> 01:54:23,520
the village

2471
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:28,320
was involved in that 10%. The 2020s

2472
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:31,840
will be obviously in 2030. There is a

2473
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,960
hope Nicole thought that they will

2474
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:38,320
change the law and that we might be able

2475
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,800
to retain some, but we won't have vested

2476
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,400
any in it. But the the the beauty of it

2477
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,520
is if it is sold competitively, those

2478
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:50,239
funds will come back because and to the

2479
01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:52,960
county which and used for their support.

2480
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,760
So they're hoping to get that kind of

2481
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:59,599
change by the time those um 2020

2482
01:54:59,599 --> 01:55:01,760
trolleys are sold.

2483
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,159
>> Did you want to accept the resignation

2484
01:55:04,159 --> 01:55:05,520
now or later on the

2485
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:06,800
>> I had it under personnel.

2486
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,119
>> Okay, that's fine.

2487
01:55:09,119 --> 01:55:11,760
>> All right. Motion to accept um streets

2488
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:14,639
committee report by

2489
01:55:14,639 --> 01:55:15,119
um

2490
01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:18,709
>> Joe second.

2491
01:55:18,719 --> 01:55:25,040
» Buildings committee. Um we had a uh

2492
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:29,119
Zoom meeting of uh when was that? last

2493
01:55:29,119 --> 01:55:34,560
week with um the engineers who are doing

2494
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,119
the HVAC

2495
01:55:37,119 --> 01:55:40,719
engineering study for um our building

2496
01:55:40,719 --> 01:55:42,639
specifically looking and we mentioned

2497
01:55:42,639 --> 01:55:45,280
this before the geo the potential for

2498
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,040
geothermal

2499
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:50,880
um the problem being that we don't have

2500
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:54,159
much property and about the only space

2501
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:58,400
that could be considered would be um uh

2502
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:00,639
along Fair Street where we have those

2503
01:56:00,639 --> 01:56:02,719
small trees. They would obviously have

2504
01:56:02,719 --> 01:56:04,800
to come out and and that would be the

2505
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,360
space we'd be looking at. But it was a

2506
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:11,599
really good Zoom meeting um that had

2507
01:56:11,599 --> 01:56:15,440
Cindy and me and Mitch. No, Mitch.

2508
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:17,840
>> Yeah. And Jana and Heather.

2509
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:19,920
>> Okay. It was another meeting Mitch

2510
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,800
couldn't get to. Um and and so everybody

2511
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:26,560
had some input on it. Um what a

2512
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,880
long-term hope would be for this because

2513
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:31,679
it would be several million dollars

2514
01:56:31,679 --> 01:56:34,400
would be that the library might have

2515
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:39,840
access to funds that we don't um etc. Uh

2516
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,119
so that is being looked at. One thing

2517
01:56:43,119 --> 01:56:46,320
that came out of it is that it really

2518
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:50,400
depends on your test wells. And so we

2519
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:52,560
discussed the fact that we would like a

2520
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,840
quote in the proposal they're giving us

2521
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:59,679
to so that we could budget in our next

2522
01:56:59,679 --> 01:57:02,239
year's budget for test wells because if

2523
01:57:02,239 --> 01:57:05,599
it turns out that it's not even viable.

2524
01:57:05,599 --> 01:57:08,000
we go down and we're hitting water or

2525
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:09,920
we're hitting something that doesn't

2526
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:13,440
allow the installation of a geothermal

2527
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:16,239
system, it'll let us know when we won't

2528
01:57:16,239 --> 01:57:18,719
be pursuing something that um wouldn't

2529
01:57:18,719 --> 01:57:19,360
be viable.

2530
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:22,639
>> Can I point out that the Alvarez home on

2531
01:57:22,639 --> 01:57:24,320
River Street,

2532
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,119
>> they did a geothermal vertical, you

2533
01:57:27,119 --> 01:57:29,679
know, just off the street,

2534
01:57:29,679 --> 01:57:31,119
>> like two feet off the street, and they

2535
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:35,440
said it went about 400 feet down. So I I

2536
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:36,639
don't know if a vertical

2537
01:57:36,639 --> 01:57:38,480
>> about that one because we do know of

2538
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,719
other geothermals but that's a fairly

2539
01:57:40,719 --> 01:57:43,920
close one to us. So that's a good point.

2540
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:45,119
Yeah. Yeah.

2541
01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:47,360
>> And it might be the same geological

2542
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:49,360
structure that's here and there.

2543
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:50,080
>> Yep.

2544
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:54,719
>> No, that was they just consult with

2545
01:57:54,719 --> 01:57:56,239
the family.

2546
01:57:56,239 --> 01:57:58,320
>> Yeah. Or at least find out what was the

2547
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:02,629
firm that did that.

2548
01:58:02,639 --> 01:58:05,520
Um, are there any other uh questions or

2549
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,440
comments? I should point out that the

2550
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:10,800
door van was here the other day and so

2551
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:14,560
we are getting potentially a a quote for

2552
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:17,280
um kind of folding door um automatic

2553
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,599
door for our elevator to make them kind

2554
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:22,480
of truly ADA compliant. It'll be just

2555
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:25,760
one more thing I envision that will be

2556
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:28,719
temperamental and uh people will try and

2557
01:58:28,719 --> 01:58:31,920
force and that will be that. I think

2558
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,520
somebody's liking your what you I

2559
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:34,800
thought you were heading to the idea.

2560
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:36,239
Let's just have a full-time elevator

2561
01:58:36,239 --> 01:58:36,800
operator.

2562
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:38,159
>> Well, that's what I thought.

2563
01:58:38,159 --> 01:58:40,880
>> I know

2564
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:43,920
floor, please. Medzanine.

2565
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:47,440
>> And they also looked at this door. Um, I

2566
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:49,360
think I'd like a codes guide just to

2567
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:51,920
double check on it because the door man

2568
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,639
said that we could flip this door cuz

2569
01:58:54,639 --> 01:58:57,520
what we're trying to do is get it to

2570
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:59,520
>> put a breaker bar on there and he

2571
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:01,840
thought we could use it. And I said,

2572
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:03,920
"Are you sure it doesn't need safety

2573
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:06,159
glass?" Because it really seemed to me

2574
01:59:06,159 --> 01:59:10,239
it would need safety glass. He

2575
01:59:10,239 --> 01:59:13,040
said, "No, but I I think we're going to

2576
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:15,840
look into that a little more seriously."

2577
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:17,920
um because that's just a regular pane of

2578
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,719
glass. And I will point out I put a

2579
01:59:20,719 --> 01:59:22,719
shower a stained glass window in a

2580
01:59:22,719 --> 01:59:27,040
shower and I had to put safety glass

2581
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:30,719
>> on the shower side. So there's a lot of

2582
01:59:30,719 --> 01:59:33,520
breaks. So I think we'll have um maybe

2583
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:36,880
uh our CEO just find out the code on

2584
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:38,400
that for us.

2585
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:39,760
>> Can I bring up something else in the

2586
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:42,880
minutes of the building?

2587
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:44,800
the discussion about the leases

2588
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:49,520
expiring. Um, so my understanding as I

2589
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:54,000
went back and checked this is that the leases

2590
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:57,920
have different dates. Uh, the the arts

2591
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:02,400
association does terminate in 27.

2592
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:06,239
The um the library lease started in

2593
02:00:06,239 --> 02:00:09,840
2018. The arts association was signed by

2594
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:12,080
Jeff when he was mayor. The library

2595
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:13,679
lease was signed by you, Ellen, when you

2596
02:00:13,679 --> 02:00:15,440
were mayor the following year. And

2597
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:18,320
there's a typo in the lease. It says

2598
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,040
that it shall learn for 10 years from

2599
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:26,080
May 31 to 2018.

2600
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:30,560
And then it says terminating in 2027,

2601
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:33,760
but it's clear from the schedule

2602
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:36,239
of payments due the last payment of

2603
02:00:36,239 --> 02:00:40,000
$20,000 for the last year would be and

2604
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:43,119
that last year runs from June 127 to May

2605
02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:46,480
3128. So the point is these leases are

2606
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:49,199
out of phase with one another. And I

2607
02:00:49,199 --> 02:00:53,599
bring that up because of my chronic

2608
02:00:53,599 --> 02:00:56,560
uh interest in making sure that if we're

2609
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:58,639
going into new tenure leases for both

2610
02:00:58,639 --> 02:01:01,360
entities that and we have the arts

2611
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:04,800
association project that we make sure we

2612
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:08,639
have visioning going on for what library

2613
02:01:08,639 --> 02:01:10,239
space

2614
02:01:10,239 --> 02:01:13,119
is needed perhaps to expand into. And I

2615
02:01:13,119 --> 02:01:14,400
just think there needs to be some

2616
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:17,920
collaborative, you know, moderated or

2617
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:20,960
mediated discussion of that. Um because

2618
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,199
obviously the library program is going

2619
02:01:23,199 --> 02:01:27,040
forward or the arts association same and

2620
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:29,119
the only difference between the two is

2621
02:01:29,119 --> 02:01:31,760
that they have another building that

2622
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,880
will be completed during the course of

2623
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,080
this lease. And what does that mean for

2624
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:41,760
if anything for library

2625
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:43,840
um space adjustment? And I'm thinking

2626
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:47,360
particularly of the the office space now

2627
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,679
occupied by the

2628
02:01:49,679 --> 02:01:51,679
um art association and that little

2629
02:01:51,679 --> 02:01:53,440
showroom

2630
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:54,800
there that

2631
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:55,440
>> Mhm.

2632
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,920
>> So I'm done too.

2633
02:01:57,920 --> 02:01:59,920
>> No, I think uh definitely it'll be a

2634
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:02,880
discussion and fortunately both um the

2635
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:06,639
art association and uh the library have

2636
02:02:06,639 --> 02:02:08,400
representation on buildings committee

2637
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:10,639
where this will be worked through. So

2638
02:02:10,639 --> 02:02:12,480
there'll be plenty of opportunities at

2639
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,440
that committee to that they brought this

2640
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:17,920
up the that it was on the agenda.

2641
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:19,199
>> Yeah, they they were the ones who

2642
02:02:19,199 --> 02:02:19,920
brought it up.

2643
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:22,639
>> Well, so I just want to point out the

2644
02:02:22,639 --> 02:02:24,719
discrepancy

2645
02:02:24,719 --> 02:02:26,000
in timing.

2646
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,080
>> Mhm.

2647
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:29,840
>> So if one lease is done before the

2648
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:31,599
other, that may foreclose the kind of

2649
02:02:31,599 --> 02:02:34,880
discussion we think they can have.

2650
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:39,040
Um the only thing um I did note there

2651
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:40,719
that we had discussion on whether or not

2652
02:02:40,719 --> 02:02:44,480
vehicles and I think it means

2653
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:47,840
were we saying under 20 ft there can

2654
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:49,760
park on I don't know why that came up in

2655
02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:52,800
the streets department

2656
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:55,679
there

2657
02:02:55,679 --> 02:02:57,840
>> but it's supposed to be over 20 ft isn't

2658
02:02:57,840 --> 02:02:58,320
it

2659
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:03,280
>> he meant recreational vehicles under 20

2660
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:05,199
so That's the word. That's a correction

2661
02:03:05,199 --> 02:03:08,080
that we'd like to make there.

2662
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:10,400
>> Yeah. There's also a correction above

2663
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:12,159
that. It's not the front door that's

2664
02:03:12,159 --> 02:03:14,480
being replaced. It's the porch floor

2665
02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:15,679
that's being replaced.

2666
02:03:15,679 --> 02:03:20,560
>> Yes. Yeah. Well, and in case I don't sit

2667
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:22,880
on streets. I did notice you had what

2668
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,800
you know what that one was, too.

2669
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:26,320
>> Yeah. Plus, it says Richard wasn't

2670
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:30,629
there, but then later he made a motion.

2671
02:03:30,639 --> 02:03:34,320
» But you are anyway. Yeah, I'd be happy

2672
02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:35,280
to, Jenna.

2673
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:36,880
>> Yeah, we got them. All right. So, motion

2674
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:39,920
to accept buildings committee report

2675
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:43,280
by Joe, second by Molly. All in favor?

2676
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:44,960
>> As I remember, Jenna, that was an

2677
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:47,760
extremely filled day.

2678
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:51,199
>> All right. Treasurer's report. This was

2679
02:03:51,199 --> 02:03:52,800
distributed.

2680
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,560
I think you guys all see the consent

2681
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:58,239
agenda. Key things to note are the

2682
02:03:58,239 --> 02:04:01,360
permissive referendum to transfer money

2683
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,760
from building reserves to general fund.

2684
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,159
Pay for the front porch repairs and

2685
02:04:06,159 --> 02:04:08,080
transfer from police reserve to general

2686
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:10,880
fund to play for police cameras. There

2687
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:15,520
are the invoices. Cindy politely

2688
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:18,080
reminded me or explained to me the large

2689
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:21,119
one for $275,000

2690
02:04:21,119 --> 02:04:24,239
is for the Southland project.

2691
02:04:24,239 --> 02:04:25,840
Um,

2692
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:30,310
does anybody have any questions?

2693
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:33,840
» The large bills to uh Kobasill Stone

2694
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:36,560
Products, um, 84,421

2695
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:39,520
was for our paving at Lake View Drive

2696
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:44,239
South. Um, 160,000 to Koboskill

2697
02:04:44,239 --> 02:04:46,560
Stone was when we did Esley. So these

2698
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:50,159
are major street um paving projects we

2699
02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:53,440
did and 71,000 was Lake View Drive

2700
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:56,239
North. So Lakeland Shores was on the

2701
02:04:56,239 --> 02:04:59,199
agenda last year.

2702
02:04:59,199 --> 02:05:01,280
>> The rest are relatively small.

2703
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:04,080
>> Yep. So

2704
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:05,599
uh did you move the

2705
02:05:05,599 --> 02:05:08,560
>> I move the uh consent agenda?

2706
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:09,679
>> I'll second.

2707
02:05:09,679 --> 02:05:10,880
>> All in favor?

2708
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:12,960
>> I thank you.

2709
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:16,400
And then um we have personnel

2710
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:18,800
>> um

2711
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:22,880
and we have a couple items on our um

2712
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:29,510
additional agendas.

2713
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:30,159
» Okay.

2714
02:05:30,159 --> 02:05:33,760
>> Under for personnel. So there you um you

2715
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:34,400
can do

2716
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:37,040
>> I'll I'll make the motions approve the

2717
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:38,960
hiring of Sarah Lawrence as park

2718
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:42,800
supervisor at an hourly rate of $24

2719
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:47,040
>> a second getting a whole college for 24

2720
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,440
and approve the hiring of Benjamin Gramp

2721
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:53,599
seasonal laborer an hourly rate of 1825

2722
02:05:53,599 --> 02:05:57,040
approve hiring of Justin Pearl as a

2723
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,280
part-time police officer

2724
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:02,639
>> and we also should accept Zack Burton.

2725
02:06:02,639 --> 02:06:05,040
It was in this packet as well. His he

2726
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:08,239
was RHMEO his resignation.

2727
02:06:08,239 --> 02:06:09,119
So

2728
02:06:09,119 --> 02:06:11,760
>> may I is this the police officer

2729
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:14,400
awaiting the background investigation on

2730
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:14,800
J?

2731
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:18,080
>> Yeah. Contingent on the U background you

2732
02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:20,000
know the all the materials.

2733
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:22,239
>> Okay. Yeah. I just treat

2734
02:06:22,239 --> 02:06:23,840
>> Y

2735
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:25,840
>> I second it. All in favor

2736
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,800
>> I finance. I think there was also one

2737
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:31,920
more um

2738
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:33,199
>> I didn't know if you said that one or

2739
02:06:33,199 --> 02:06:34,560
not. I was wrong.

2740
02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:37,119
>> These all came in like last minute.

2741
02:06:37,119 --> 02:06:39,599
>> Oh, that's right. It's not. Yeah.

2742
02:06:39,599 --> 02:06:42,960
>> Another seat later.

2743
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:43,520
>> Okay.

2744
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:44,560
>> All right.

2745
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:46,239
>> So move.

2746
02:06:46,239 --> 02:06:46,800
>> Second.

2747
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:50,639
>> All in favor? I move um move the invoice

2748
02:06:50,639 --> 02:06:53,040
from town

2749
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:56,320
of the registar vital statistics fees

2750
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:59,679
the amount of $2570

2751
02:06:59,679 --> 02:07:01,760
for this year.

2752
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:03,280
>> Well, actually it's

2753
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:04,480
>> should be last year.

2754
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:05,520
>> No, it it's

2755
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:07,040
>> for next year. I'm sorry.

2756
02:07:07,040 --> 02:07:10,480
>> It that's that is correct. Um so we

2757
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:13,920
remit the fees. Remember this was

2758
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:17,760
decided in about 2021 when I was board

2759
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:22,719
um we we our staff handles all the

2760
02:07:22,719 --> 02:07:27,360
registar fees and it amounted to 2570.

2761
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:31,040
So the town of AIBO invoice

2762
02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:33,840
but so that then they can put in their

2763
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:37,599
budget as they begin drafting their 2027

2764
02:07:37,599 --> 02:07:39,679
budget this fall they know that they

2765
02:07:39,679 --> 02:07:42,000
will remit it back to us. It's

2766
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:43,760
essentially offline.

2767
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:44,639
>> Yeah.

2768
02:07:44,639 --> 02:07:46,480
>> All right. So, there's a motion made,

2769
02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:48,000
second. All in favor?

2770
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:49,440
>> I

2771
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:52,159
>> can I make a related motion to advertise

2772
02:07:52,159 --> 02:07:54,880
for a new HMEO to replace Zachary

2773
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:57,199
Burton?

2774
02:07:57,199 --> 02:07:58,800
>> Second. All in favor?

2775
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:00,719
>> I we know why he left.

2776
02:08:00,719 --> 02:08:05,199
>> Yes. He's leaving on the end of August.

2777
02:08:05,199 --> 02:08:07,040
>> No. Do we know why he left or what he

2778
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:08,000
left for?

2779
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:09,040
>> Here's his

2780
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:11,760
>> I saw that him saying

2781
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:12,159
What

2782
02:08:12,159 --> 02:08:13,840
>> I believe

2783
02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:15,119
she

2784
02:08:15,119 --> 02:08:17,199
>> I know what I'm getting at is where and

2785
02:08:17,199 --> 02:08:23,750
why. Was it money? Was it convenience?

2786
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:30,950
» Um motion to accept the financ.

2787
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:35,119
» Um moving on grants and projects. Um our

2788
02:08:35,119 --> 02:08:38,639
next welcome home troops town will be um

2789
02:08:38,639 --> 02:08:43,109
the 1st of September

2790
02:08:43,119 --> 02:08:44,639
today.

2791
02:08:44,639 --> 02:08:47,920
Um the lead women voters um will be

2792
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,760
there and be speaking about their

2793
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:52,639
efforts to promote democracy

2794
02:08:52,639 --> 02:08:56,480
and um information for elections. They

2795
02:08:56,480 --> 02:09:00,719
also will be providing the refreshments.

2796
02:09:00,719 --> 02:09:03,760
uh local musicians um will in the group

2797
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:06,239
along some of the gold hats will be

2798
02:09:06,239 --> 02:09:09,119
providing musical entertainment and

2799
02:09:09,119 --> 02:09:12,320
members of the voices of Coopertown the

2800
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:15,280
musical group will also be on hand to

2801
02:09:15,280 --> 02:09:18,079
promote all their fall activities and

2802
02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:19,040
performances

2803
02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:20,639
>> and that's next Tuesday

2804
02:09:20,639 --> 02:09:24,550
>> September

2805
02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:26,719
» um

2806
02:09:26,719 --> 02:09:29,599
Cindy mentioned our success on the

2807
02:09:29,599 --> 02:09:32,880
county infrastructure grant program. So,

2808
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:35,840
that's very exciting. Um, New York

2809
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:41,199
Forward, um, we have been working on,

2810
02:09:41,199 --> 02:09:44,800
uh, the revised Pioneer Alley plan. We

2811
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:48,480
don't have it yet, but um, hopefully

2812
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:51,440
that's forthcoming soon from Paserrow.

2813
02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:54,960
They are involved in the survey work um

2814
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:58,800
for the Grove Street sidewalk which we

2815
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:02,159
had hoped to uh get moving on. It's it's

2816
02:10:02,159 --> 02:10:06,400
uh we haven't gotten that surveyed um

2817
02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:08,079
but we're hoping when they're also in

2818
02:10:08,079 --> 02:10:11,520
town to also do the work on Hoffman Lane

2819
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:14,560
which needs it but otherwise it's moving

2820
02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:19,199
forward. Um, I will say we've had one

2821
02:10:19,199 --> 02:10:22,000
success story and then we don't handle

2822
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:24,639
the small project fund that was handled

2823
02:10:24,639 --> 02:10:27,280
by MVED, Mohawk Valley Economic

2824
02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:30,159
Development District. But um, one thing

2825
02:10:30,159 --> 02:10:32,719
we should all remember is that our New

2826
02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:35,920
York Forward funds, ours for like all

2827
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:37,440
our

2828
02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:41,599
downtown pedestrian way projects, those

2829
02:10:41,599 --> 02:10:43,840
are funded from the Department of State.

2830
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:46,079
It's not like there's some New York

2831
02:10:46,079 --> 02:10:48,960
forward DRRI agency up there. It depends

2832
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:52,880
on what your project is. Uh the ones

2833
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:56,400
pertaining to Josh's and and

2834
02:10:56,400 --> 02:10:59,679
Franchesca's um the Grove project is

2835
02:10:59,679 --> 02:11:01,920
through um HCR, home and community

2836
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:04,560
renewals. They got 1.3 million. Our

2837
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:09,119
small project fund is also under HCR and

2838
02:11:09,119 --> 02:11:11,920
um so the projects are working through

2839
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:13,520
that.

2840
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:16,239
uh all the

2841
02:11:16,239 --> 02:11:17,760
ones

2842
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:20,400
uh have to have an environmental

2843
02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:22,320
clearance because remember these are old

2844
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:25,199
buildings and this is public funds. They

2845
02:11:25,199 --> 02:11:27,679
can't be going in unless they've had a

2846
02:11:27,679 --> 02:11:30,880
kind of an environmental evaluation

2847
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:34,960
and if lead or asbestous is found they

2848
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:38,719
then have to abate that. Um, one of the

2849
02:11:38,719 --> 02:11:44,400
awarded uh uh businesses is trying to

2850
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:47,440
decide whether they have an old building

2851
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:49,840
and they worry that that could consume a

2852
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:53,199
lot more than they're willing to do. Um,

2853
02:11:53,199 --> 02:11:55,840
all these small project funds have until

2854
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:58,639
December 2027

2855
02:11:58,639 --> 02:12:01,280
to sort of be underway and completed.

2856
02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:05,199
One is nearly complete. it it did have

2857
02:12:05,199 --> 02:12:08,320
um its environmental review and then um

2858
02:12:08,320 --> 02:12:10,239
they'll probably finish within the next

2859
02:12:10,239 --> 02:12:13,040
month which is exciting. So these are

2860
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:15,760
positives with uh our New York forward

2861
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:19,599
funding. Uh, round nine, um, restore New

2862
02:12:19,599 --> 02:12:22,880
York. We have the million dollar and I

2863
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:27,440
do know that, um, Rob Holtzen is, um,

2864
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:31,760
assembling all the materials for the HCR

2865
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:34,079
credit application, which is due next

2866
02:12:34,079 --> 02:12:35,920
month.

2867
02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:37,440
>> That would be for the Bat Factory

2868
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:38,079
project

2869
02:12:38,079 --> 02:12:40,960
>> 217 Maine.

2870
02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:43,119
Um,

2871
02:12:43,119 --> 02:12:46,880
project fairy spring. Uh there were some

2872
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:49,199
additional questions as I reported last

2873
02:12:49,199 --> 02:12:51,599
month from um the Middlefield um

2874
02:12:51,599 --> 02:12:54,880
planning board largely pertaining to the

2875
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,840
uh friends of the parks

2876
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:02,719
um were and how they were going to um

2877
02:13:02,719 --> 02:13:05,920
you know do soil retention during the

2878
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:07,440
construction of the wall and the

2879
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:11,360
building of the wall um in the

2880
02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:14,239
relocation of the road um for the

2881
02:13:14,239 --> 02:13:16,159
village. They were just inquiring about

2882
02:13:16,159 --> 02:13:20,880
the septic system. Um just for common

2883
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:24,800
memory um that settling

2884
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:28,480
was designed for capacity of 275 gallons

2885
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:32,480
day. We had a took a six year average

2886
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:36,639
and uh our average is 40 gallons.

2887
02:13:36,639 --> 02:13:40,960
So, even though we're not really adding

2888
02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:42,800
more bathrooms in the sense that the

2889
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:44,560
ones that are there probably be used

2890
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:48,159
less, but we are adding these uh two ADA

2891
02:13:48,159 --> 02:13:52,320
um bathrooms and one additional toilet

2892
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:56,480
um was felt well within it. So, on uh

2893
02:13:56,480 --> 02:13:59,920
what was it? August 6, all were approved

2894
02:13:59,920 --> 02:14:03,440
and we have our zoning permit. And so at

2895
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:07,040
this point, I would like to move that

2896
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:09,360
the village of Coopertown

2897
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:15,280
um go to bid um um for our portion of

2898
02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:18,639
the Ferry Spring project which includes

2899
02:14:18,639 --> 02:14:21,520
the ADA accessible restroom in the

2900
02:14:21,520 --> 02:14:23,040
pavilion.

2901
02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:27,119
Um, the caretaker's uh cabin ADA

2902
02:14:27,119 --> 02:14:29,599
accessible restroom, new caretakers

2903
02:14:29,599 --> 02:14:32,800
cabin bathroom, upgrading the electric

2904
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:36,560
plumbing and underground utilities. Um,

2905
02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:39,280
and then revamping the changing room,

2906
02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:42,000
all the work ads,

2907
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:44,400
etc. All the work that you have seen

2908
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:46,560
recently in the plan. So, I will make a

2909
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:49,679
motion that we go to bid for um Berry

2910
02:14:49,679 --> 02:14:51,920
Spring Art.

2911
02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:52,800
>> Second.

2912
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:56,800
by Richard. All in favor?

2913
02:14:56,800 --> 02:15:00,149
>> Um

2914
02:15:00,159 --> 02:15:04,159
the I have a feeling that achieve I'm

2915
02:15:04,159 --> 02:15:06,480
hoping we will hear in the next month or

2916
02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:09,920
so. Um, we're pretty sure we're locked

2917
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:12,239
in there because it's listed everywhere

2918
02:15:12,239 --> 02:15:14,800
as a million for our double day field

2919
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:17,199
improvements, but we did have to fill

2920
02:15:17,199 --> 02:15:22,159
out CF and the voting that uh that'll be

2921
02:15:22,159 --> 02:15:25,280
officially announced soon. And we have

2922
02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:27,360
not heard anything on the water meter

2923
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:30,560
grant. It's essentially a CFA even

2924
02:15:30,560 --> 02:15:32,480
though it had an early application

2925
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:35,679
deadline of June 12th. So it could be by

2926
02:15:35,679 --> 02:15:37,199
the end of the year before we hear

2927
02:15:37,199 --> 02:15:40,800
anything on that. Is there any

2928
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,440
questions?

2929
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:48,159
Um moving on to parks board and are you

2930
02:15:48,159 --> 02:15:50,400
giving it in

2931
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:52,239
>> Audrey's

2932
02:15:52,239 --> 02:15:55,199
we definitely had a busy parts board

2933
02:15:55,199 --> 02:15:58,320
discussion. Um we did have a couple

2934
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:01,040
people show up for public comment. Uh

2935
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:03,280
Tony and Jill

2936
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:06,000
came and discussed their concerns about

2937
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:07,679
um some of the boats at the village

2938
02:16:07,679 --> 02:16:11,440
docks and they noted five boats have

2939
02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:14,000
been have out of date registration

2940
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:17,280
stickers displayed and that there is

2941
02:16:17,280 --> 02:16:19,199
obviously a long wait list to get a slip

2942
02:16:19,199 --> 02:16:22,320
at the village docks and um that they've

2943
02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:24,079
noticed that none of the slips have been

2944
02:16:24,079 --> 02:16:28,400
vacant all year um if not longer. I

2945
02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:29,840
think there's been a couple slips that

2946
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:31,280
have been vacuumed for at least two

2947
02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:34,960
years now. Um, and they also noticed

2948
02:16:34,960 --> 02:16:37,120
that there's an illegal kayak in one of

2949
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:41,120
the slips. Uh, they stated that the

2950
02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:44,000
letter that the village sends out um

2951
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:46,160
states that the Ducks cannot accommodate

2952
02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:49,760
boats longer than 24 feet. That includes

2953
02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:51,519
the motor. But they also have noticed

2954
02:16:51,519 --> 02:16:53,599
that there have been boats that they

2955
02:16:53,599 --> 02:16:57,280
think are longer than 24 feet in the

2956
02:16:57,280 --> 02:17:01,030
slopes. Um

2957
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:03,760
and we also they also just kind of asked

2958
02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:07,439
us about what we think how we should you

2959
02:17:07,439 --> 02:17:10,719
know monitor all these uh votes and the

2960
02:17:10,719 --> 02:17:14,880
vote slips. Um they did say that they

2961
02:17:14,880 --> 02:17:17,840
have reported these incences to the

2962
02:17:17,840 --> 02:17:19,840
police department.

2963
02:17:19,840 --> 02:17:22,880
Uh let's see. Then they kind of just

2964
02:17:22,880 --> 02:17:28,800
talked about their uh their thoughts. Um

2965
02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:31,200
all the uh parks, village parks have

2966
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:34,080
been doing well. Um nothing really to

2967
02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:37,750
report there.

2968
02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:42,160
We did defer the uh the barbecue that

2969
02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:44,479
the company tried to ask us for double

2970
02:17:44,479 --> 02:17:47,200
date to the parks committee, but they

2971
02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:49,120
but the parks said no, we don't really

2972
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:52,399
want 800 people on our parks for the

2973
02:17:52,399 --> 02:17:54,960
barbecue.

2974
02:17:54,960 --> 02:17:57,280
Let's see what else.

2975
02:17:57,280 --> 02:18:01,359
And we also talked about um

2976
02:18:01,359 --> 02:18:03,200
talked with the friends of the parks and

2977
02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:04,880
they said that they've noticed the lack

2978
02:18:04,880 --> 02:18:07,840
of lifeguards at Fair Springs. Uh noting

2979
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:09,519
that many of these lifeguards worked

2980
02:18:09,519 --> 02:18:11,679
more than one job. So there's been

2981
02:18:11,679 --> 02:18:13,439
scheduling conflicts all summer with

2982
02:18:13,439 --> 02:18:16,880
those guys. Uh the early bird went well

2983
02:18:16,880 --> 02:18:19,120
in July.

2984
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:22,000
Yes, there was an auction um for a

2985
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:24,479
painting that Janet Monroe did and that

2986
02:18:24,479 --> 02:18:27,040
was auctioned off

2987
02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:28,719
and

2988
02:18:28,719 --> 02:18:30,639
they also discussed I guess there's been

2989
02:18:30,639 --> 02:18:32,639
some firework debris in the lake that

2990
02:18:32,639 --> 02:18:35,439
they wanted to clean up. So, we were

2991
02:18:35,439 --> 02:18:36,719
kind of talking about who should be

2992
02:18:36,719 --> 02:18:40,479
responsible for that.

2993
02:18:40,479 --> 02:18:43,519
And then we kind of talked about the dog

2994
02:18:43,519 --> 02:18:46,479
park and it seems like the school is

2995
02:18:46,479 --> 02:18:48,880
kind of still on a stall about that and

2996
02:18:48,880 --> 02:18:52,559
we're what we should do. So I thinking

2997
02:18:52,559 --> 02:18:54,880
maybe try to figure out a different

2998
02:18:54,880 --> 02:18:56,960
place to put the dog park in the

2999
02:18:56,960 --> 02:19:00,080
school's still going to not really or

3000
02:19:00,080 --> 02:19:03,280
drag their paint on that. And that's

3001
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:06,240
really all we talked about

3002
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:08,000
in the park. So

3003
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:10,160
>> yeah, on the fireworks issue, we

3004
02:19:10,160 --> 02:19:11,840
discussed that to the watershed

3005
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:13,679
supervisory committee. The question is

3006
02:19:13,679 --> 02:19:16,399
what the chemical composition of the

3007
02:19:16,399 --> 02:19:18,800
fireworks is, what ends up in the lake,

3008
02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:20,880
uh what kind of public health risk does

3009
02:19:20,880 --> 02:19:24,080
it represent? And um one of the

3010
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:25,599
ingredients in the fireworks is

3011
02:19:25,599 --> 02:19:28,160
perlorate which can have impacts on

3012
02:19:28,160 --> 02:19:31,040
thyroid, but the we don't have any data

3013
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:33,760
on the nature and extent of its

3014
02:19:33,760 --> 02:19:37,519
presence. Um so the people are reading

3015
02:19:37,519 --> 02:19:40,960
up about it and thinking about it and

3016
02:19:40,960 --> 02:19:44,080
one thought was to um since I believe we

3017
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:47,280
just have a single vendor

3018
02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:49,439
that there too many vendors who

3019
02:19:49,439 --> 02:19:51,040
>> yeah I think they do all of them

3020
02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:52,240
American fireworks

3021
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:55,040
>> right so maybe have some discussion with

3022
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:57,439
them about what kind of alternatives

3023
02:19:57,439 --> 02:19:59,280
there are for fireworks displays or

3024
02:19:59,280 --> 02:20:02,319
maybe encourage the use of the less uh

3025
02:20:02,319 --> 02:20:05,439
toxic ones um if they and do so and

3026
02:20:05,439 --> 02:20:07,840
still keep customers happy. This isn't

3027
02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:09,680
really any kind of a mandate. We we're

3028
02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:13,840
not in a position to do that. But it is

3029
02:20:13,840 --> 02:20:15,760
and and we have maybe what seven or

3030
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:18,800
eight displays a year. I guess it's not

3031
02:20:18,800 --> 02:20:21,760
>> it's not that many, but it's it's it's a

3032
02:20:21,760 --> 02:20:25,429
top

3033
02:20:25,439 --> 02:20:28,880
» relative to the um dog park. Um Audrey

3034
02:20:28,880 --> 02:20:33,439
is here, but she and Cindy and Joe and I

3035
02:20:33,439 --> 02:20:36,240
and se several people from the dog

3036
02:20:36,240 --> 02:20:39,520
committee and friends of the parks. Um

3037
02:20:39,520 --> 02:20:42,640
when was that a week ago? Sunday met up

3038
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:45,280
at Berry Spring and and kind of

3039
02:20:45,280 --> 02:20:50,160
identified it a potential area. Um I do

3040
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:53,120
wonder I noticed that the notes all talk

3041
02:20:53,120 --> 02:20:56,080
about the 10,000 being kind feasibility

3042
02:20:56,080 --> 02:20:58,479
where would be a spot. I know we've

3043
02:20:58,479 --> 02:21:01,760
already kind of discounted Badger Park,

3044
02:21:01,760 --> 02:21:04,319
but one of the big concerns about

3045
02:21:04,319 --> 02:21:07,280
putting it at Very Spring is it's not

3046
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:09,520
walkable. And I have to tell you, I

3047
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:12,000
spent You won't you won't believe this,

3048
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:14,319
but I spent an hour and a half at Badger

3049
02:21:14,319 --> 02:21:16,560
Park the other day um babysitting

3050
02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:18,399
grandchildren. It was a lot of fun. It's

3051
02:21:18,399 --> 02:21:20,399
perfect park for it. And the friends of

3052
02:21:20,399 --> 02:21:22,880
the parks, I will say, have done it. Uh

3053
02:21:22,880 --> 02:21:26,000
they have a storage bin there with

3054
02:21:26,000 --> 02:21:28,399
bouncy balls and basketballs. So, you

3055
02:21:28,399 --> 02:21:31,680
can do that. You know, there's a um

3056
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:34,960
paddle tennis thing set up and the two

3057
02:21:34,960 --> 02:21:37,520
tracks benches that have been donated by

3058
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:40,640
the library for all our plastic bags

3059
02:21:40,640 --> 02:21:44,000
that have um been recycled into very

3060
02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:48,160
attractive benches. They're there um as

3061
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:51,120
you know for observers of the um pedal

3062
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:53,359
tennis. And while I was there, two

3063
02:21:53,359 --> 02:21:56,720
people, one drove in and I got chatting

3064
02:21:56,720 --> 02:21:58,319
with that individual and he said, "I

3065
02:21:58,319 --> 02:22:00,640
always come in and park at Badger Park

3066
02:22:00,640 --> 02:22:02,720
to take my walk around the village on

3067
02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:06,000
village streets and he had a dog and I

3068
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:08,800
said, "Hey." And so I sounded him out

3069
02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:11,120
and he said, "That would be a great

3070
02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:14,399
spot." So I before we discount it, if we

3071
02:22:14,399 --> 02:22:16,720
have this money, should we potentially

3072
02:22:16,720 --> 02:22:20,640
get someone to look at our village parks

3073
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:23,840
and give us some guidance on what it is?

3074
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:26,800
The advantage there, yes, it is kind of

3075
02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:29,920
the wetish area, but it would need trees

3076
02:22:29,920 --> 02:22:32,160
removable. So does Fairy Spring, but the

3077
02:22:32,160 --> 02:22:33,280
only way you're going to get to very

3078
02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:36,000
spring is to dry if it's not walkable.

3079
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:38,640
So, I I think it might be good to have a

3080
02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:41,760
sort of a community meeting led by

3081
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:45,200
someone who could guide us into the

3082
02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:47,040
potentials and the and the actual

3083
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:50,000
feasibility using that $10,000.

3084
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:53,520
>> Yeah. I my view is um I want to be

3085
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:55,760
prudent about this and I want to make

3086
02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:59,280
sure that if we do decide to spend any

3087
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:01,120
of the money on the investigation that

3088
02:23:01,120 --> 02:23:04,000
we bear in mind the data we've already

3089
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:06,560
gotten in. I thought

3090
02:23:06,560 --> 02:23:11,200
as many as 10 years ago the proximity of

3091
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:14,240
Badger Park to residences would make a

3092
02:23:14,240 --> 02:23:20,640
dog park um problematic. And I thought I thought there was a we have a record

3093
02:23:20,640 --> 02:23:25,439
of of that. So whatever we do and maybe,

3094
02:23:25,439 --> 02:23:27,520
you know, the parks board team should

3095
02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:30,720
just reassemble all that information,

3096
02:23:30,720 --> 02:23:32,640
you know, as

3097
02:23:32,640 --> 02:23:34,800
and and review it before because even if

3098
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:37,760
we were going to fashion

3099
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:39,920
a request for proposals, we we'd really

3100
02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:42,240
have to identify some parameters. I

3101
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:44,720
mean, I just think tossing out different

3102
02:23:44,720 --> 02:23:47,359
sites on the in the village would be

3103
02:23:47,359 --> 02:23:49,280
feasible. One of the other things we

3104
02:23:49,280 --> 02:23:52,399
discussed, Cindy reported on after

3105
02:23:52,399 --> 02:23:53,920
breakfast with the board this morning,

3106
02:23:53,920 --> 02:23:56,319
we talked about

3107
02:23:56,319 --> 02:23:58,080
soliciting

3108
02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:01,439
um the Clark Center for a potential site

3109
02:24:01,439 --> 02:24:07,030
and apparently that

3110
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:08,960
» but Jean does say in the minutes and I

3111
02:24:08,960 --> 02:24:10,720
was not at this meeting.

3112
02:24:10,720 --> 02:24:13,359
>> Say that again. Jean mentions in these

3113
02:24:13,359 --> 02:24:16,720
minutes and I wasn't at this meeting

3114
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:18,560
that she was aware of.

3115
02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:21,040
>> Oh yeah, she reached out with me even

3116
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,520
before we met at very spring.

3117
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:25,359
>> Yeah, it it wasn't feasible.

3118
02:24:25,359 --> 02:24:26,000
>> Okay.

3119
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:26,640
>> Yeah.

3120
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:29,280
>> Oh, that other site. Yeah, but it's

3121
02:24:29,280 --> 02:24:29,840
okay.

3122
02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:30,960
>> Right. Yeah.

3123
02:24:30,960 --> 02:24:33,840
>> So, and I was interested you just

3124
02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:35,359
elaborate a little bit, expressed a

3125
02:24:35,359 --> 02:24:38,720
little bit on it. The Mr. Grant Grant's

3126
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:41,840
report, Badger Park, very busy fart. So

3127
02:24:41,840 --> 02:24:44,399
what is I I've not only that way I'm

3128
02:24:44,399 --> 02:24:47,280
usually down at Lakefront, but so it's

3129
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:47,760
the children.

3130
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:50,640
>> It's surprising and and I give all the

3131
02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:52,640
credit to the friends of the park and

3132
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:54,479
the Lions Club. They put up that

3133
02:24:54,479 --> 02:24:56,960
pavilion. Well, that one time we had a

3134
02:24:56,960 --> 02:24:59,120
vis, you know, in village inspection. We

3135
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:01,439
ate our pizza there, but that's a nice

3136
02:25:01,439 --> 02:25:06,399
spot. Then they put up a a little jungle

3137
02:25:06,399 --> 02:25:09,439
gym or you know that is small compared

3138
02:25:09,439 --> 02:25:12,000
to what's over at the school but it's

3139
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:15,520
you it is used all the time

3140
02:25:15,520 --> 02:25:17,920
>> and they have one of those climbing

3141
02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:21,280
monkey rolly things that I I have to

3142
02:25:21,280 --> 02:25:23,920
tell you children just seemed to love

3143
02:25:23,920 --> 02:25:26,960
that park. I was also probably one of

3144
02:25:26,960 --> 02:25:29,120
the only trustees on skates last year

3145
02:25:29,120 --> 02:25:32,560
and god why I did it I do not know but

3146
02:25:32,560 --> 02:25:34,640
it was there was it was during winter

3147
02:25:34,640 --> 02:25:36,560
parallel when it was really cold a lot

3148
02:25:36,560 --> 02:25:38,560
of events kind of got cancelled but the

3149
02:25:38,560 --> 02:25:41,040
building was open and my daughter and

3150
02:25:41,040 --> 02:25:44,399
granddaughter and I all dawn skates and

3151
02:25:44,399 --> 02:25:48,560
it was beautiful skating it we are so

3152
02:25:48,560 --> 02:25:51,359
fortunate to have that and everything

3153
02:25:51,359 --> 02:25:54,479
the friends do there because um I've

3154
02:25:54,479 --> 02:25:57,040
also have been up in Syracuse and they

3155
02:25:57,040 --> 02:26:00,720
pay about $80 to rent skates and use a

3156
02:26:00,720 --> 02:26:02,560
skating ring for their

3157
02:26:02,560 --> 02:26:05,200
>> for the four of them, you know, and and

3158
02:26:05,200 --> 02:26:07,600
here it's free. And the smartest thing

3159
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:10,319
the friends ever did was put up um one

3160
02:26:10,319 --> 02:26:14,479
of those barcode things or and you know,

3161
02:26:14,479 --> 02:26:17,359
do you enjoy this? Consider a donation

3162
02:26:17,359 --> 02:26:20,160
like or scanned it. Bam. And made a

3163
02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:24,399
donation. Um, so I think that park has

3164
02:26:24,399 --> 02:26:26,640
yet to see its full potential. It's our

3165
02:26:26,640 --> 02:26:29,760
newest park. It started out as a garden,

3166
02:26:29,760 --> 02:26:32,479
a community garden, and then it was

3167
02:26:32,479 --> 02:26:35,040
decided to pave over the community

3168
02:26:35,040 --> 02:26:37,760
garden and make a skating rink.

3169
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:41,600
>> Um, but um, there is more potential to

3170
02:26:41,600 --> 02:26:44,720
that park and I and I think it would be

3171
02:26:44,720 --> 02:26:47,600
appropo to look at the potential.

3172
02:26:47,600 --> 02:26:49,040
>> Can I make a public service

3173
02:26:49,040 --> 02:26:52,880
announcement? You mentioned QR codes. My

3174
02:26:52,880 --> 02:26:55,520
firm, my law firm has cyber training and

3175
02:26:55,520 --> 02:26:58,000
I just went through a course of it today

3176
02:26:58,000 --> 02:27:01,359
periodic and they scared the Jesus out

3177
02:27:01,359 --> 02:27:02,080
of me about

3178
02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:04,399
>> using bar QR codes.

3179
02:27:04,399 --> 02:27:06,720
>> They said there there are so many spoof

3180
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:08,960
uh versions of those things you really

3181
02:27:08,960 --> 02:27:11,359
have to be careful

3182
02:27:11,359 --> 02:27:13,040
>> because you're basically clicking on a

3183
02:27:13,040 --> 02:27:14,720
link.

3184
02:27:14,720 --> 02:27:15,920
>> Exactly.

3185
02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:17,040
>> So it's uh

3186
02:27:17,040 --> 02:27:19,760
>> but they are back in full force. QR

3187
02:27:19,760 --> 02:27:21,200
codes.

3188
02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:23,920
>> I I recognize that and so are the

3189
02:27:23,920 --> 02:27:26,640
hackers and the things that I use that

3190
02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:28,560
capitalize on your mistakes. One's

3191
02:27:28,560 --> 02:27:32,160
mistake. Do not click on any links.

3192
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:33,200
>> All right. So,

3193
02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:35,680
>> I keep getting serious. I get email from

3194
02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:36,880
Ellen all the time.

3195
02:27:36,880 --> 02:27:38,319
>> Me, too.

3196
02:27:38,319 --> 02:27:41,840
>> Trust me, I got invited to three parties

3197
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:42,479
yesterday.

3198
02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:44,560
>> Me, too.

3199
02:27:44,560 --> 02:27:48,399
Donald's Gmail and now it's on in Gmail.

3200
02:27:48,399 --> 02:27:50,720
>> Um, nobody

3201
02:27:50,720 --> 02:27:53,040
>> I got I I got invited to a party by a

3202
02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:55,920
woman who was been was angry at me 30 25

3203
02:27:55,920 --> 02:27:57,040
years ago.

3204
02:27:57,040 --> 02:27:58,720
>> There are a lot of them but still I was

3205
02:27:58,720 --> 02:27:59,760
kind of surprised.

3206
02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:02,319
>> How can you keep me right?

3207
02:28:02,319 --> 02:28:05,520
>> This is in the public record.

3208
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:08,160
>> All right. Motion to accept the parks

3209
02:28:08,160 --> 02:28:11,359
board report by Molly, second by George

3210
02:28:11,359 --> 02:28:14,479
B. community environment.

3211
02:28:14,479 --> 02:28:17,840
>> So, we need to accept the resignations

3212
02:28:17,840 --> 02:28:20,960
of Lou Alstead and Richard Blay. But in

3213
02:28:20,960 --> 02:28:22,960
doing so, I would like to thank them for

3214
02:28:22,960 --> 02:28:25,040
their years of service to the village

3215
02:28:25,040 --> 02:28:27,680
both on this committee, but on numerous

3216
02:28:27,680 --> 02:28:30,800
other committees. Uh Lou is a trustee,

3217
02:28:30,800 --> 02:28:32,319
Richard is a member of the planning

3218
02:28:32,319 --> 02:28:34,399
board. They have both been really

3219
02:28:34,399 --> 02:28:36,800
powerful members of our community and

3220
02:28:36,800 --> 02:28:39,200
have served the village that they have

3221
02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:41,280
grown to love. You're here.

3222
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:43,520
>> They resigned each.

3223
02:28:43,520 --> 02:28:45,840
>> They are both they are both moving to

3224
02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:47,439
other location.

3225
02:28:47,439 --> 02:28:49,439
>> Really?

3226
02:28:49,439 --> 02:28:50,560
>> Yeah.

3227
02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:52,240
>> Where's

3228
02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:54,160
them go? They're they really contributed

3229
02:28:54,160 --> 02:28:54,640
a lot

3230
02:28:54,640 --> 02:28:56,479
>> to a retirement community. I believe it

3231
02:28:56,479 --> 02:29:00,710
was connected.

3232
02:29:00,720 --> 02:29:02,640
We talked a little bit about the

3233
02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:05,840
building heating retrofit which Ellen

3234
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:07,520
mentioned under the buildings committee

3235
02:29:07,520 --> 02:29:09,600
agenda. We spent most of our time

3236
02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:11,520
talking about wood burning fire

3237
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:13,120
regulations.

3238
02:29:13,120 --> 02:29:16,880
Um, and as part of that,

3239
02:29:16,880 --> 02:29:19,280
I started putting together regulations

3240
02:29:19,280 --> 02:29:22,640
that are already in place regarding wood

3241
02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:27,439
burning uh, fire outdoor fireplaces

3242
02:29:27,439 --> 02:29:30,240
um, including requirements of the

3243
02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:32,319
Department of Environmental Conservation

3244
02:29:32,319 --> 02:29:36,160
that fall under the air resources um,

3245
02:29:36,160 --> 02:29:37,920
law,

3246
02:29:37,920 --> 02:29:40,560
requirements that fall under the 2025

3247
02:29:40,560 --> 02:29:43,920
fire codes of New York State and then a

3248
02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:45,760
kind of quirky requirement of the

3249
02:29:45,760 --> 02:29:48,720
village of Coopertown zoning law related

3250
02:29:48,720 --> 02:29:52,160
to smoke and those are all included um

3251
02:29:52,160 --> 02:29:54,800
here

3252
02:29:54,800 --> 02:29:59,439
there are lots of regulations regarding

3253
02:29:59,439 --> 02:30:02,479
outdoor burning. I think part of the

3254
02:30:02,479 --> 02:30:04,880
problem is that they are regulated in

3255
02:30:04,880 --> 02:30:07,760
different ways by different agencies. So

3256
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:10,319
someone calls the village of Coopertown

3257
02:30:10,319 --> 02:30:13,439
Police Department for instance, much of

3258
02:30:13,439 --> 02:30:16,960
this is regulated by county codes under

3259
02:30:16,960 --> 02:30:20,479
the fire code in New York State. So that

3260
02:30:20,479 --> 02:30:23,840
m that may not lead to an immediate

3261
02:30:23,840 --> 02:30:26,240
resolution. It may mean the codes

3262
02:30:26,240 --> 02:30:28,560
officer has to come and measure how far

3263
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:32,560
something is. Um clearly being out of

3264
02:30:32,560 --> 02:30:35,520
attendance is something that is you know

3265
02:30:35,520 --> 02:30:38,000
an immediate sort of thing. Anyway,

3266
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:40,479
there is a lot on the books. The

3267
02:30:40,479 --> 02:30:42,080
committee's

3268
02:30:42,080 --> 02:30:44,399
recommendation to the board of trustees

3269
02:30:44,399 --> 02:30:46,800
recognizing that in some places some

3270
02:30:46,800 --> 02:30:50,399
parts of the village this is a concern

3271
02:30:50,399 --> 02:30:53,680
are to begin with an educational

3272
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:56,000
campaign which we haven't started yet

3273
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:58,000
because we wanted to talk to you all

3274
02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:00,160
first. Um there was a letter in the

3275
02:31:00,160 --> 02:31:02,080
Freeman's Journal two weeks ago that

3276
02:31:02,080 --> 02:31:04,080
Jesse Ravage submitted that was similar

3277
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:07,280
to the letter that was provided um here.

3278
02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:09,200
I think we can follow up as a board of

3279
02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:12,560
trustees with a followup to that letter

3280
02:31:12,560 --> 02:31:15,040
um telling people you know what is

3281
02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:16,960
already regulated and why it is

3282
02:31:16,960 --> 02:31:20,479
regulated. Um for instance the DEC

3283
02:31:20,479 --> 02:31:23,040
requires clean dry firewood. There are

3284
02:31:23,040 --> 02:31:26,720
reasons for that. Uh we can do that

3285
02:31:26,720 --> 02:31:28,640
through the newspaper. We can do it in

3286
02:31:28,640 --> 02:31:30,880
Village Voices. We can do it um on the

3287
02:31:30,880 --> 02:31:34,479
internet and we can see if that starts

3288
02:31:34,479 --> 02:31:37,280
to change behavior. Um by Jesse's

3289
02:31:37,280 --> 02:31:39,680
account, two of her neighbors who have

3290
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:42,319
been burning have I think as a result of

3291
02:31:42,319 --> 02:31:45,359
a visit from the code officer changed

3292
02:31:45,359 --> 02:31:49,120
their burning habits. Um that was not

3293
02:31:49,120 --> 02:31:50,800
the only problem in that neighborhood,

3294
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:54,399
but it does seem to have started. So our

3295
02:31:54,399 --> 02:31:57,439
suggestion as a committee is that we we

3296
02:31:57,439 --> 02:31:58,960
make sure that people know what the

3297
02:31:58,960 --> 02:32:02,880
rules are and why the rules exist before

3298
02:32:02,880 --> 02:32:04,479
we start talking about local

3299
02:32:04,479 --> 02:32:05,760
legislation.

3300
02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:06,640
>> Yeah.

3301
02:32:06,640 --> 02:32:08,640
>> Is there a greater frequency in these

3302
02:32:08,640 --> 02:32:11,680
fire pits with rentals, the short-term

3303
02:32:11,680 --> 02:32:13,040
rentals and B&Bs?

3304
02:32:13,040 --> 02:32:16,640
>> There does not the the issues that that

3305
02:32:16,640 --> 02:32:18,319
particularly were brought to the board

3306
02:32:18,319 --> 02:32:20,479
of trustees attention have absolutely

3307
02:32:20,479 --> 02:32:26,870
nothing to do with short-term rentals. Y

3308
02:32:26,880 --> 02:32:28,720
» any questions

3309
02:32:28,720 --> 02:32:32,389
community

3310
02:32:32,399 --> 02:32:36,000
motion to accept the report by

3311
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:38,399
favor

3312
02:32:38,399 --> 02:32:39,040
>> moving on

3313
02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:40,960
>> water and sewer port.

3314
02:32:40,960 --> 02:32:44,640
>> Yes. Um, a lingering issue we've had has

3315
02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:47,840
been the repair of the water man at the

3316
02:32:47,840 --> 02:32:51,760
73 in the vicinity of 73 pine and our

3317
02:32:51,760 --> 02:32:53,439
last water and sewer board meeting. We

3318
02:32:53,439 --> 02:32:55,920
had a long discussion of it and a

3319
02:32:55,920 --> 02:32:58,479
presentation by uh Eric H on behalf of

3320
02:32:58,479 --> 02:33:02,640
his father who was the u

3321
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:05,760
72 Pioneer Street. Um,

3322
02:33:05,760 --> 02:33:08,640
briefly to recapitulate, there was a

3323
02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:11,359
flood in the basement at 75 Pioneer

3324
02:33:11,359 --> 02:33:14,880
Street. Uh, the

3325
02:33:14,880 --> 02:33:18,399
village crew went out to investigate it,

3326
02:33:18,399 --> 02:33:22,560
discovered um with the technology they

3327
02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:26,160
have, two sources of leaks or apparent

3328
02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:29,600
leaks. and one was across the street

3329
02:33:29,600 --> 02:33:32,000
from the flooded residence and the other

3330
02:33:32,000 --> 02:33:33,840
was on the same side of the street as

3331
02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:35,600
the flooded residence in the front of

3332
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:39,840
the Hage home. Uh they chose to excav

3333
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:42,479
the village crew excavated there first

3334
02:33:42,479 --> 02:33:44,880
did find a leak but determined that it

3335
02:33:44,880 --> 02:33:46,880
was not the leak causing the flooding of

3336
02:33:46,880 --> 02:33:48,960
the basement. They went on to the other

3337
02:33:48,960 --> 02:33:50,960
one across the street excavated and

3338
02:33:50,960 --> 02:33:53,520
there was a major leak in that main that

3339
02:33:53,520 --> 02:33:55,120
was repaired. And the question was

3340
02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:59,680
whether the pages not having so many

3341
02:33:59,680 --> 02:34:02,640
help and it had no um knowledge of a

3342
02:34:02,640 --> 02:34:05,840
leak or impact of the leak prior to the

3343
02:34:05,840 --> 02:34:08,479
excavation. Um

3344
02:34:08,479 --> 02:34:11,200
questioned their responsibility for

3345
02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:14,640
paying the entirety of the um bill

3346
02:34:14,640 --> 02:34:17,600
associated with uh the excavation at

3347
02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:21,200
their place. As a result of an inquiry

3348
02:34:21,200 --> 02:34:24,240
from the village, the the hes did say,

3349
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:25,840
"Well, I can't imagine you wouldn't

3350
02:34:25,840 --> 02:34:28,960
repair the leak if um not before you

3351
02:34:28,960 --> 02:34:30,640
filled in the hole." So, that was done.

3352
02:34:30,640 --> 02:34:32,720
And the question then was what was

3353
02:34:32,720 --> 02:34:37,200
consent to repair. Um this we sorted it

3354
02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:40,399
all and there was a $2,500

3355
02:34:40,399 --> 02:34:42,880
cost charge associated with that. And

3356
02:34:42,880 --> 02:34:44,399
after

3357
02:34:44,399 --> 02:34:46,640
we investigated in more detail and

3358
02:34:46,640 --> 02:34:50,800
discussed it, um there is a document uh

3359
02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:52,880
at the end, I think it's the last

3360
02:34:52,880 --> 02:34:56,000
document in your packet put behind the

3361
02:34:56,000 --> 02:35:00,160
water in Board minutes that is a um

3362
02:35:00,160 --> 02:35:02,479
itemized bill

3363
02:35:02,479 --> 02:35:05,040
Mitch and um

3364
02:35:05,040 --> 02:35:08,319
water department

3365
02:35:08,319 --> 02:35:11,760
that identified $1,112.94

3366
02:35:11,760 --> 02:35:16,560
more sense is the cost um that could

3367
02:35:16,560 --> 02:35:19,600
appropriately be associated with the h

3368
02:35:19,600 --> 02:35:22,080
and the h's home and be their financial

3369
02:35:22,080 --> 02:35:23,760
responsibility.

3370
02:35:23,760 --> 02:35:26,479
The present time they have a $2500 tax

3371
02:35:26,479 --> 02:35:29,760
lean um on their property because they

3372
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:33,920
had not paid um they had not paid their

3373
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:35,920
property tax bill payment would not be

3374
02:35:35,920 --> 02:35:38,399
accepted without the $2500 and they were

3375
02:35:38,399 --> 02:35:42,160
trying to sort that out. So the upshot

3376
02:35:42,160 --> 02:35:44,080
of the water and sewer board meeting was

3377
02:35:44,080 --> 02:35:48,960
a recommendation that the hes be um

3378
02:35:48,960 --> 02:35:50,880
to to the board of trustees is that the

3379
02:35:50,880 --> 02:35:55,760
hes be build with $112.94

3380
02:35:55,760 --> 02:35:59,680
the that um the balance of the $2,500 be

3381
02:35:59,680 --> 02:36:02,160
rem be credited to them. I know we can't

3382
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:06,160
remove it from the lean. Um and um I

3383
02:36:06,160 --> 02:36:07,680
don't know if there are penalties

3384
02:36:07,680 --> 02:36:10,720
associated with the nonpayment

3385
02:36:10,720 --> 02:36:13,520
of the um well it was not that they

3386
02:36:13,520 --> 02:36:15,280
wouldn't pay it. Their check wouldn't be

3387
02:36:15,280 --> 02:36:16,880
accepted.

3388
02:36:16,880 --> 02:36:18,720
So

3389
02:36:18,720 --> 02:36:21,520
my recommendation, my motion would be

3390
02:36:21,520 --> 02:36:24,160
based on the recommendation of the water

3391
02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:28,399
and sewer board that the HEG uh ages be

3392
02:36:28,399 --> 02:36:30,880
sent a bill for parts and labor and the

3393
02:36:30,880 --> 02:36:35,040
repair of their lateral um in the amount

3394
02:36:35,040 --> 02:36:39,750
of $1,112.94.

3395
02:36:39,760 --> 02:36:45,439
And I would further move that the $2,500

3396
02:36:45,439 --> 02:36:51,680
um uh LIN be uh adjusted

3397
02:36:51,680 --> 02:36:55,040
uh through the means of a credit um that

3398
02:36:55,040 --> 02:36:58,479
would leave them um not responsible for

3399
02:36:58,479 --> 02:37:01,040
anything beyond the 1121

3400
02:37:01,040 --> 02:37:03,359
$112.

3401
02:37:03,359 --> 02:37:06,240
>> How do you come after that much?

3402
02:37:06,240 --> 02:37:08,479
It's it's in it's right here at the

3403
02:37:08,479 --> 02:37:14,160
earth. It's itemized in several hefty

3404
02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:17,439
minds and we and I think that's all the

3405
02:37:17,439 --> 02:37:20,640
hes ever wanted in the first place. But

3406
02:37:20,640 --> 02:37:24,950
as it is um

3407
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:27,200
I think that's an I think that's an

3408
02:37:27,200 --> 02:37:29,359
appropriate charge and I think

3409
02:37:29,359 --> 02:37:31,040
>> are they okay with that? I think they

3410
02:37:31,040 --> 02:37:34,800
will be conceptually in our discussions

3411
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:40,800
they said you know everything but the digging they they would happily

3412
02:37:40,800 --> 02:37:43,840
be responsible.

3413
02:37:43,840 --> 02:37:46,640
So that's um and there were a number of

3414
02:37:46,640 --> 02:37:48,880
questions raised uh well what does this

3415
02:37:48,880 --> 02:37:54,880
mean about setting a precedent um and my

3416
02:37:54,880 --> 02:37:57,680
first response to that is we now have a

3417
02:37:57,680 --> 02:38:00,240
consent form

3418
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:01,760
the property owner is going to be

3419
02:38:01,760 --> 02:38:04,399
presented with anytime there's a leak

3420
02:38:04,399 --> 02:38:06,800
identified

3421
02:38:06,800 --> 02:38:09,200
>> if they agree it's sign they agree to

3422
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:09,600
sign

3423
02:38:09,600 --> 02:38:11,280
>> if they agree sign. So now and and that

3424
02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:13,120
brings up the very next problem we had

3425
02:38:13,120 --> 02:38:17,200
which is kind of underway in Bowerstown.

3426
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:22,319
Uh there was um Charlotte uh and in some

3427
02:38:22,319 --> 02:38:25,200
cases or at some times total loss of

3428
02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:28,640
water pressure in number residents which

3429
02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:31,120
at the which is at the end of our water

3430
02:38:31,120 --> 02:38:33,040
supply system.

3431
02:38:33,040 --> 02:38:36,319
And um it turns out that there are leaks

3432
02:38:36,319 --> 02:38:41,439
in the vicinity and it's hard to know

3433
02:38:41,439 --> 02:38:44,319
how much is associated with the leaking

3434
02:38:44,319 --> 02:38:46,640
of the laterals or whether there's

3435
02:38:46,640 --> 02:38:48,479
anything any main leak which we haven't

3436
02:38:48,479 --> 02:38:50,560
detected so far and how much is just the

3437
02:38:50,560 --> 02:38:52,720
nature of the infrastructure that we

3438
02:38:52,720 --> 02:38:55,680
can't keep the pressure up.

3439
02:38:55,680 --> 02:38:59,760
Although the problem

3440
02:38:59,760 --> 02:39:03,120
the residents point out is that while

3441
02:39:03,120 --> 02:39:05,680
there have been problematic pressures,

3442
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:09,200
it was only after the 2025 water main

3443
02:39:09,200 --> 02:39:12,240
break up by the Walers residence on in

3444
02:39:12,240 --> 02:39:15,359
Bowerstown that the um

3445
02:39:15,359 --> 02:39:17,439
the problem became chronic for other

3446
02:39:17,439 --> 02:39:20,240
residents. So that was repaired an

3447
02:39:20,240 --> 02:39:23,439
excavation uh in 2025

3448
02:39:23,439 --> 02:39:27,600
and then the repair was when we were

3449
02:39:27,600 --> 02:39:32,640
receiving um really uh anxious calls

3450
02:39:32,640 --> 02:39:34,000
from people saying we have to have

3451
02:39:34,000 --> 02:39:35,439
something done. We don't have water in

3452
02:39:35,439 --> 02:39:39,040
our house. Uh on last Monday, I think it

3453
02:39:39,040 --> 02:39:42,000
was, uh the crew went out and excavating

3454
02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:44,800
and we found indeed that there was a

3455
02:39:44,800 --> 02:39:48,560
break and um I visited the site and

3456
02:39:48,560 --> 02:39:50,720
discussed it with Mitch and he he showed

3457
02:39:50,720 --> 02:39:52,240
me I've got photos I could show

3458
02:39:52,240 --> 02:39:53,840
everyone, but he showed me the fitting

3459
02:39:53,840 --> 02:39:58,240
that had um was the source of the leak

3460
02:39:58,240 --> 02:40:00,000
and said this is typically a village

3461
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:02,080
responsibility. So, they repaired that

3462
02:40:02,080 --> 02:40:05,920
one. And um I haven't followed up with

3463
02:40:05,920 --> 02:40:08,319
him

3464
02:40:08,319 --> 02:40:11,120
uh yet, but I I believe there are still

3465
02:40:11,120 --> 02:40:13,840
problems with um water pressure out

3466
02:40:13,840 --> 02:40:15,760
there. And even while they were

3467
02:40:15,760 --> 02:40:17,520
excavating, Mitch said he didn't think

3468
02:40:17,520 --> 02:40:21,920
that was the only issue there. So, there

3469
02:40:21,920 --> 02:40:24,240
the the crew did a fantastic job. They

3470
02:40:24,240 --> 02:40:27,120
had a subcontractor in who was all over

3471
02:40:27,120 --> 02:40:30,319
the operation very effectively. But we

3472
02:40:30,319 --> 02:40:34,240
do have a problem out there for

3473
02:40:34,240 --> 02:40:37,600
several of our property owners.

3474
02:40:37,600 --> 02:40:39,520
>> There are some extensive leaks out

3475
02:40:39,520 --> 02:40:42,479
there. Um the village did repair

3476
02:40:42,479 --> 02:40:45,520
essentially the reason we determined it

3477
02:40:45,520 --> 02:40:48,479
was village and would be covered by the

3478
02:40:48,479 --> 02:40:51,120
village. The lateral was okay. it was

3479
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:54,160
where it sistered to our main and that

3480
02:40:54,160 --> 02:40:56,240
coupling which was you know could been

3481
02:40:56,240 --> 02:40:58,720
almost I don't know 90 years old or

3482
02:40:58,720 --> 02:41:02,240
whatever had deteriorated. So there all

3483
02:41:02,240 --> 02:41:05,840
those um sistering attachments to the

3484
02:41:05,840 --> 02:41:08,160
main were repaired. They have since

3485
02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:12,479
found some major leaks and have shut off

3486
02:41:12,479 --> 02:41:15,439
um some other signs and are still um

3487
02:41:15,439 --> 02:41:19,120
working on the project there. We um it's

3488
02:41:19,120 --> 02:41:22,000
not sort of by guess and by gosh. Um

3489
02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:23,520
they

3490
02:41:23,520 --> 02:41:25,840
sometimes we're fortunate and we belong

3491
02:41:25,840 --> 02:41:28,319
to rural water and we can get them to

3492
02:41:28,319 --> 02:41:30,640
come out but they literally have been

3493
02:41:30,640 --> 02:41:33,920
dealing with communities that have no

3494
02:41:33,920 --> 02:41:38,399
water or major issues. So we did get

3495
02:41:38,399 --> 02:41:40,720
a company that has listening devices and

3496
02:41:40,720 --> 02:41:46,319
they can tell where there is um a leak

3497
02:41:46,319 --> 02:41:50,160
um in a line. And so um there is one

3498
02:41:50,160 --> 02:41:56,080
that is significant that is um

3499
02:41:56,080 --> 02:41:58,479
in the process of being undertaken. We

3500
02:41:58,479 --> 02:42:01,200
think that's the reason that the people

3501
02:42:01,200 --> 02:42:04,319
up further out have no pressure. Yeah.

3502
02:42:04,319 --> 02:42:05,680
So, we've had a water went out to

3503
02:42:05,680 --> 02:42:08,240
Bowowers Town for 90 years.

3504
02:42:08,240 --> 02:42:10,319
>> It was not put out by the village

3505
02:42:10,319 --> 02:42:11,840
initially,

3506
02:42:11,840 --> 02:42:14,720
but it is village now

3507
02:42:14,720 --> 02:42:17,280
>> and it runs all the way down to the 4

3508
02:42:17,280 --> 02:42:18,240
part as well.

3509
02:42:18,240 --> 02:42:20,319
>> Okay. So, there was a line. Okay. Okay.

3510
02:42:20,319 --> 02:42:21,120
So,

3511
02:42:21,120 --> 02:42:23,040
>> yeah. And if you look at the

3512
02:42:23,040 --> 02:42:25,040
>> Okay, I hear somebody else had a line

3513
02:42:25,040 --> 02:42:28,950
and we took it over.

3514
02:42:28,960 --> 02:42:31,359
» I do have a random question about the

3515
02:42:31,359 --> 02:42:34,000
$2500 credit. Where are we with the

3516
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:35,520
Haitian? I mean, they did

3517
02:42:35,520 --> 02:42:37,439
>> number

3518
02:42:37,439 --> 02:42:39,200
asking that.

3519
02:42:39,200 --> 02:42:40,560
>> What are we going to do? Like, how does

3520
02:42:40,560 --> 02:42:43,840
this $2,500 credit work if we were to

3521
02:42:43,840 --> 02:42:46,399
give them 25 credit?

3522
02:42:46,399 --> 02:42:47,520
>> So, I don't want to have them be

3523
02:42:47,520 --> 02:42:48,080
charged.

3524
02:42:48,080 --> 02:42:49,520
>> We need to

3525
02:42:49,520 --> 02:42:52,800
>> we we need to discuss that. My

3526
02:42:52,800 --> 02:42:56,560
solution is that the $2,500 charge to

3527
02:42:56,560 --> 02:43:00,560
the hes be reduced to $1,100 and the

3528
02:43:00,560 --> 02:43:01,760
number I just gave you

3529
02:43:01,760 --> 02:43:03,760
>> $1,112

3530
02:43:03,760 --> 02:43:07,520
>> 94. I'd make a different suggestion.

3531
02:43:07,520 --> 02:43:11,520
I'd make a suggestion that $2500 charge

3532
02:43:11,520 --> 02:43:15,120
be removed and we then build them to the

3533
02:43:15,120 --> 02:43:16,399
$1,100.

3534
02:43:16,399 --> 02:43:18,319
>> We can't we can't do that. So this is

3535
02:43:18,319 --> 02:43:19,359
why we have to do it this

3536
02:43:19,359 --> 02:43:22,479
>> once it's on. It's on. It's like sticky

3537
02:43:22,479 --> 02:43:29,040
glue. It It's gone to the county. It's It's been built to them. It's built

3538
02:43:29,040 --> 02:43:31,040
for them throughout through the tax

3539
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:39,760
bill. Um it can't take it back. What the Joe's making is give them I

3540
02:43:39,760 --> 02:43:42,560
mean it's one of many solutions. I guess

3541
02:43:42,560 --> 02:43:45,279
we we say their original charge should

3542
02:43:45,279 --> 02:43:48,960
only have been $1,112

3543
02:43:48,960 --> 02:43:52,640
and we subtract that from the $25,000

3544
02:43:52,640 --> 02:43:56,319
or 2500, excuse me, and that difference

3545
02:43:56,319 --> 02:43:58,960
be given a credit on their water bill in

3546
02:43:58,960 --> 02:44:01,680
the future. My understanding is they're

3547
02:44:01,680 --> 02:44:02,800
accepting that.

3548
02:44:02,800 --> 02:44:05,120
>> Yeah. Well, they could even I think it

3549
02:44:05,120 --> 02:44:06,800
was clear they could we could even cut a

3550
02:44:06,800 --> 02:44:08,640
check. What we can't do, Richard, is

3551
02:44:08,640 --> 02:44:12,000
change the tax lean history. And they

3552
02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:13,920
the hes understand that they're

3553
02:44:13,920 --> 02:44:16,640
perfectly fine with that. It's it's if

3554
02:44:16,640 --> 02:44:20,479
it nets out to this outcome,

3555
02:44:20,479 --> 02:44:22,479
they're they're fine with that. And I'd

3556
02:44:22,479 --> 02:44:24,319
like to make it the path.

3557
02:44:24,319 --> 02:44:26,000
>> They're fine with it. I don't understand

3558
02:44:26,000 --> 02:44:27,439
it, but if they're fine with it, that's

3559
02:44:27,439 --> 02:44:29,200
good good enough for me.

3560
02:44:29,200 --> 02:44:32,240
>> All right. So, that stays. So, probably

3561
02:44:32,240 --> 02:44:37,200
what we should do is make a motion that

3562
02:44:37,200 --> 02:44:41,439
um that

3563
02:44:41,439 --> 02:44:44,160
uh the curb stop repair itemized

3564
02:44:44,160 --> 02:44:49,349
indicates a cost of $1,112.94.

3565
02:44:49,359 --> 02:44:51,520
They would have to pay the 2500, but

3566
02:44:51,520 --> 02:44:53,680
then they would be issued I don't know

3567
02:44:53,680 --> 02:44:55,920
why they couldn't be issued a refund or

3568
02:44:55,920 --> 02:44:56,800
a credit.

3569
02:44:56,800 --> 02:44:57,840
>> You could do it.

3570
02:44:57,840 --> 02:44:58,720
>> Yeah.

3571
02:44:58,720 --> 02:45:00,960
>> Or the amount. That makes sense to me.

3572
02:45:00,960 --> 02:45:05,269
And then $1,387,

3573
02:45:05,279 --> 02:45:05,920
» right?

3574
02:45:05,920 --> 02:45:07,359
>> And I and I don't know.

3575
02:45:07,359 --> 02:45:09,840
>> So

3576
02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:13,040
just from the amendment, I I don't know

3577
02:45:13,040 --> 02:45:16,160
where the whether there are any uh

3578
02:45:16,160 --> 02:45:18,479
penalties associated with the late

3579
02:45:18,479 --> 02:45:21,040
payment because it hasn't been made yet.

3580
02:45:21,040 --> 02:45:22,880
But if we tell them as a result of this

3581
02:45:22,880 --> 02:45:24,240
meeting and they make the payment and

3582
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:28,000
there's no other that the 2500 plus

3583
02:45:28,000 --> 02:45:30,319
their property tax bill is all they owe

3584
02:45:30,319 --> 02:45:32,160
that that's fine. I don't know if

3585
02:45:32,160 --> 02:45:34,240
there's I don't know what penalties

3586
02:45:34,240 --> 02:45:36,640
>> any penalties would have been added on

3587
02:45:36,640 --> 02:45:38,800
at the time it was submitted I would

3588
02:45:38,800 --> 02:45:41,359
think back to the county collection.

3589
02:45:41,359 --> 02:45:43,920
>> Okay. So between the time of receive the

3590
02:45:43,920 --> 02:45:46,160
bill and it hasn't been paid yet because

3591
02:45:46,160 --> 02:45:47,600
of our sorting this out

3592
02:45:47,600 --> 02:45:50,000
>> the only fee they might have incurred

3593
02:45:50,000 --> 02:45:54,240
would have been um you know if you pay

3594
02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:57,120
your bill in two installments there's a

3595
02:45:57,120 --> 02:45:59,439
slight finance charge isn't there on the

3596
02:45:59,439 --> 02:46:01,359
tax on your village checks I don't know

3597
02:46:01,359 --> 02:46:04,640
I always pay it in its entirety in June

3598
02:46:04,640 --> 02:46:07,120
>> but I think that they're late now I mean

3599
02:46:07,120 --> 02:46:09,040
>> they are they because of all of this

3600
02:46:09,040 --> 02:46:09,840
back in

3601
02:46:09,840 --> 02:46:12,080
>> I thought it was So what what about the

3602
02:46:12,080 --> 02:46:13,359
penalty for them being late?

3603
02:46:13,359 --> 02:46:14,560
>> But they didn't take their first

3604
02:46:14,560 --> 02:46:15,840
installment and

3605
02:46:15,840 --> 02:46:18,080
>> well they they paid it but it was they

3606
02:46:18,080 --> 02:46:20,000
submitted it but it was rejected because

3607
02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:22,720
it was incomplete. They they didn't pay

3608
02:46:22,720 --> 02:46:24,399
>> they paid the amount vote for the

3609
02:46:24,399 --> 02:46:26,720
property tax but not the $2,500

3610
02:46:26,720 --> 02:46:29,520
increment. So the entire payment was

3611
02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:31,120
rejected which means they're delinquent

3612
02:46:31,120 --> 02:46:34,319
on the entire payment. So if there is my

3613
02:46:34,319 --> 02:46:35,760
I don't know what the number is but if

3614
02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:37,920
there is a penalty associated with that

3615
02:46:37,920 --> 02:46:41,120
>> I would like in a second. Why don't we

3616
02:46:41,120 --> 02:46:43,120
vote that we're going to do that refund

3617
02:46:43,120 --> 02:46:48,630
the $1,3876

3618
02:46:48,640 --> 02:46:51,279
and then all those in favor?

3619
02:46:51,279 --> 02:46:51,920
>> I

3620
02:46:51,920 --> 02:46:55,200
>> and then the and then um make a motion

3621
02:46:55,200 --> 02:46:59,279
about uh any finance to wave any

3622
02:46:59,279 --> 02:47:00,319
whatever you want.

3623
02:47:00,319 --> 02:47:01,760
>> Can we do that? I thought you said it's

3624
02:47:01,760 --> 02:47:04,479
now

3625
02:47:04,479 --> 02:47:07,680
we would a village charge only.

3626
02:47:07,680 --> 02:47:09,520
>> Yeah. Yeah. because it's the village tax

3627
02:47:09,520 --> 02:47:10,160
and

3628
02:47:10,160 --> 02:47:12,960
>> I would like to wave the fees if late

3629
02:47:12,960 --> 02:47:16,399
fees I would like to wave the late fees

3630
02:47:16,399 --> 02:47:17,600
if possible if any

3631
02:47:17,600 --> 02:47:20,960
>> if any. So that'll be the that's the

3632
02:47:20,960 --> 02:47:23,040
motion. Any of the fees associated with

3633
02:47:23,040 --> 02:47:25,760
the non-payment of the property tax bill

3634
02:47:25,760 --> 02:47:28,080
by the pages and that would be in the

3635
02:47:28,080 --> 02:47:30,640
form of a we could give them a credit or

3636
02:47:30,640 --> 02:47:34,560
a check what if there is any such amount

3637
02:47:34,560 --> 02:47:35,359
involved.

3638
02:47:35,359 --> 02:47:38,880
>> Right. So made by Molly, second by Joe

3639
02:47:38,880 --> 02:47:41,840
on paper. Hi.

3640
02:47:41,840 --> 02:47:44,479
>> Um the only other technical thing to

3641
02:47:44,479 --> 02:47:49,359
report is that they've um one of the key

3642
02:47:49,359 --> 02:47:50,960
operating

3643
02:47:50,960 --> 02:47:53,200
features of our wastewater treatment

3644
02:47:53,200 --> 02:47:57,200
plant is that um the temperature in our

3645
02:47:57,200 --> 02:48:00,000
sludge has to be between 85 I think and

3646
02:48:00,000 --> 02:48:03,120
100 degrees. And because of uh

3647
02:48:03,120 --> 02:48:05,840
complications with one of our one of our

3648
02:48:05,840 --> 02:48:08,560
motors, um our heat rather our heat

3649
02:48:08,560 --> 02:48:12,080
exchanger um it's not functioning above

3650
02:48:12,080 --> 02:48:14,800
70° and we didn't replace that when we

3651
02:48:14,800 --> 02:48:16,960
did the upgrade of the sewer plant. Um I

3652
02:48:16,960 --> 02:48:20,240
think maybe the prior operator

3653
02:48:20,240 --> 02:48:22,560
discouraged the the need for it. So,

3654
02:48:22,560 --> 02:48:25,439
we're in the midst of uh looking for um

3655
02:48:25,439 --> 02:48:27,359
vendors who can replace that. And the

3656
02:48:27,359 --> 02:48:31,040
charges cost range between 50 and 100.

3657
02:48:31,040 --> 02:48:36,160
Um but uh we think that $100,000. Um we

3658
02:48:36,160 --> 02:48:38,399
think the $70,000

3659
02:48:38,399 --> 02:48:42,960
um bid maybe is credible and maybe

3660
02:48:42,960 --> 02:48:45,040
timely. So, we're they're exploring

3661
02:48:45,040 --> 02:48:47,439
that, but that's an expense of the plan.

3662
02:48:47,439 --> 02:48:49,600
Um, and you'll notice too in the second

3663
02:48:49,600 --> 02:48:52,160
bullet um that we are trying to keep our

3664
02:48:52,160 --> 02:48:55,120
phosphorus levels down, but the

3665
02:48:55,120 --> 02:48:59,920
operating the press and um

3666
02:48:59,920 --> 02:49:02,479
uh dealing with this this this heat

3667
02:49:02,479 --> 02:49:05,359
exchanger has resulted in our levels

3668
02:49:05,359 --> 02:49:08,800
being above the 1.0. They got as high as

3669
02:49:08,800 --> 02:49:12,080
1.4. Um, but they're working and I think

3670
02:49:12,080 --> 02:49:15,439
very credibly. uh Scott Boltz and and

3671
02:49:15,439 --> 02:49:18,640
Eric um are doing a great job of trying

3672
02:49:18,640 --> 02:49:21,040
to manage all the different variables in

3673
02:49:21,040 --> 02:49:24,160
that plant operation. Um so we'll keep

3674
02:49:24,160 --> 02:49:25,840
everyone posted, but if there are any

3675
02:49:25,840 --> 02:49:29,680
questions or I'm missing something, um

3676
02:49:29,680 --> 02:49:37,910
let me know.

3677
02:49:37,920 --> 02:49:42,309
» Second by

3678
02:49:42,319 --> 02:49:43,920
um

3679
02:49:43,920 --> 02:49:47,279
water supervisory duty. One of the

3680
02:49:47,279 --> 02:49:48,880
things we've been really trying to get

3681
02:49:48,880 --> 02:49:51,520
up and running and it's taken a while is

3682
02:49:51,520 --> 02:49:56,000
our septic inspections. Um, as chair

3683
02:49:56,000 --> 02:49:58,399
McKenna pointed out of the nine element

3684
02:49:58,399 --> 02:50:00,160
plan we're working on for the protection

3685
02:50:00,160 --> 02:50:03,680
of the Asiggo Lake Wershed, our job one

3686
02:50:03,680 --> 02:50:07,279
under in that program is going to be to

3687
02:50:07,279 --> 02:50:10,080
have top-notch inspection system and

3688
02:50:10,080 --> 02:50:12,720
septic approval system because that's

3689
02:50:12,720 --> 02:50:15,920
squarely on the village to do. So um in

3690
02:50:15,920 --> 02:50:21,040
the last cycle um um Jacob Gillette um

3691
02:50:21,040 --> 02:50:23,600
our watershed supervisor and coordinator

3692
02:50:23,600 --> 02:50:27,680
has and inspector has um completed 14

3693
02:50:27,680 --> 02:50:32,319
inspections. Um everyone but one being

3694
02:50:32,319 --> 02:50:35,520
very cooperative and um compliant and

3695
02:50:35,520 --> 02:50:38,880
understanding the importance of of that

3696
02:50:38,880 --> 02:50:41,120
work. So that's uh I think we're

3697
02:50:41,120 --> 02:50:43,920
beginning to get up to use a voting

3698
02:50:43,920 --> 02:50:46,720
metaphor a little bit on plane. Um but

3699
02:50:46,720 --> 02:50:49,359
in association with that we had a

3700
02:50:49,359 --> 02:50:52,720
meeting with um a vendor

3701
02:50:52,720 --> 02:50:56,399
um let's think that's in your

3702
02:50:56,399 --> 02:50:59,040
supplemental packet.

3703
02:50:59,040 --> 02:51:02,950
um

3704
02:51:02,960 --> 02:51:08,080
a a septic installer who Jim Brooks um

3705
02:51:08,080 --> 02:51:10,560
who is who came and visited with the

3706
02:51:10,560 --> 02:51:13,359
watershed uh well the Pubashan

3707
02:51:13,359 --> 02:51:15,920
representatives Bertine McKenna and I

3708
02:51:15,920 --> 02:51:21,279
and Jacob that went over um his

3709
02:51:21,279 --> 02:51:24,720
views on on best practices for septic

3710
02:51:24,720 --> 02:51:28,640
inspections and best equipment to um

3711
02:51:28,640 --> 02:51:31,279
kind of shift over to in in improving

3712
02:51:31,279 --> 02:51:35,920
new septic systems. And um Jake Jacob

3713
02:51:35,920 --> 02:51:39,359
and um Bertie and I

3714
02:51:39,359 --> 02:51:42,240
discussed the value to Jake as he gets

3715
02:51:42,240 --> 02:51:45,439
his program more and more refined. um

3716
02:51:45,439 --> 02:51:50,479
having uh Jim Brooks as a consultant uh

3717
02:51:50,479 --> 02:51:54,160
at an hourly rate at a time that is

3718
02:51:54,160 --> 02:51:58,560
convenient to to Jacob's work to um

3719
02:51:58,560 --> 02:52:00,880
provide guidance and training, accompany

3720
02:52:00,880 --> 02:52:06,399
him in the field and um uh get him up to

3721
02:52:06,399 --> 02:52:10,080
speed in as quickly and as effectively

3722
02:52:10,080 --> 02:52:12,880
as possible. So there is a proposal in

3723
02:52:12,880 --> 02:52:15,439
the packet um describing that and then

3724
02:52:15,439 --> 02:52:16,880
there's some additional information

3725
02:52:16,880 --> 02:52:19,840
about um the qualifications of this

3726
02:52:19,840 --> 02:52:21,920
person. This would not be for the

3727
02:52:21,920 --> 02:52:24,080
purpose of certification,

3728
02:52:24,080 --> 02:52:28,479
but for the giving uh Jacob some extra

3729
02:52:28,479 --> 02:52:30,319
certification, but it would just be to

3730
02:52:30,319 --> 02:52:34,240
get him um trained in the best practices

3731
02:52:34,240 --> 02:52:36,960
uh

3732
02:52:36,960 --> 02:52:39,120
you know in making these inspections.

3733
02:52:39,120 --> 02:52:41,439
And as Alte ke his predecessor that had

3734
02:52:41,439 --> 02:52:44,960
observed to me many times um there's a

3735
02:52:44,960 --> 02:52:47,840
big education component associated with

3736
02:52:47,840 --> 02:52:49,760
the work of these inspections and that

3737
02:52:49,760 --> 02:52:52,880
is explaining to the property owners why

3738
02:52:52,880 --> 02:52:56,240
we are assessing this $50 fee why why

3739
02:52:56,240 --> 02:52:58,720
these septic inspections are important

3740
02:52:58,720 --> 02:53:00,640
not only to the village water supply but

3741
02:53:00,640 --> 02:53:03,200
to their own healthy

3742
02:53:03,200 --> 02:53:05,520
the lake health right in their the

3743
02:53:05,520 --> 02:53:09,040
vicinity their property and so that that

3744
02:53:09,040 --> 02:53:12,560
entails um a lot of diplomacy and Jacob

3745
02:53:12,560 --> 02:53:14,720
is I think very good at that. He

3746
02:53:14,720 --> 02:53:17,359
expressed um

3747
02:53:17,359 --> 02:53:19,920
how much uh property owners appreciate

3748
02:53:19,920 --> 02:53:24,000
having that contact. Um and as time goes

3749
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:27,840
by it'll move faster and more smoothly.

3750
02:53:27,840 --> 02:53:31,680
But um the other component of this is

3751
02:53:31,680 --> 02:53:34,880
that um while the wastewater treatment

3752
02:53:34,880 --> 02:53:37,760
plant operators um have we discussed

3753
02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:39,359
with them in the water and sewer board

3754
02:53:39,359 --> 02:53:42,319
the prospect of their assisting with

3755
02:53:42,319 --> 02:53:44,720
some of these inspections. they have

3756
02:53:44,720 --> 02:53:47,200
very very limited bandwidth to do it

3757
02:53:47,200 --> 02:53:49,359
because the wastewater treatment plant

3758
02:53:49,359 --> 02:53:51,840
is a very complicated operation and

3759
02:53:51,840 --> 02:53:53,359
requires

3760
02:53:53,359 --> 02:54:00,720
um attent on campus attention. So um

3761
02:54:00,720 --> 02:54:04,000
if there's some questions about uh what

3762
02:54:04,000 --> 02:54:06,479
we're we're proposing um I'd be happy to

3763
02:54:06,479 --> 02:54:08,560
try to address them but the idea is to

3764
02:54:08,560 --> 02:54:11,520
retain on an hourly basis. So this is a

3765
02:54:11,520 --> 02:54:15,600
long time or major commitment of village

3766
02:54:15,600 --> 02:54:18,640
resources but it would assist in

3767
02:54:18,640 --> 02:54:21,760
accomplishing the mission of septic

3768
02:54:21,760 --> 02:54:24,560
inspections that's critical to the

3769
02:54:24,560 --> 02:54:28,479
vill's participation in the island.

3770
02:54:28,479 --> 02:54:29,680
>> I have two questions.

3771
02:54:29,680 --> 02:54:33,040
>> Sure. Um, first related to the proposal,

3772
02:54:33,040 --> 02:54:35,359
I wonder if there's a no more than

3773
02:54:35,359 --> 02:54:39,920
figure that I mean $87 an hour could be

3774
02:54:39,920 --> 02:54:43,120
well $87 or it could be $10,000. So, it

3775
02:54:43,120 --> 02:54:45,359
seems like we have to put a cap

3776
02:54:45,359 --> 02:54:47,279
somewhere. Um,

3777
02:54:47,279 --> 02:54:49,840
>> right. Well, I Yes. I And we we could do

3778
02:54:49,840 --> 02:54:53,359
that and we totally control the use of

3779
02:54:53,359 --> 02:54:56,560
his time. So if we don't want to use

3780
02:54:56,560 --> 02:54:59,040
them more than a couple thousand dollars

3781
02:54:59,040 --> 02:55:02,960
worth that that's that's fine.

3782
02:55:02,960 --> 02:55:05,359
So, and this relates to my my bigger

3783
02:55:05,359 --> 02:55:07,439
question, which is which is going to

3784
02:55:07,439 --> 02:55:10,000
sound very skeptical, but I but I am

3785
02:55:10,000 --> 02:55:11,359
wondering

3786
02:55:11,359 --> 02:55:14,560
>> when these septic inspections take

3787
02:55:14,560 --> 02:55:17,040
place, and they've been taking place now

3788
02:55:17,040 --> 02:55:21,200
on most of these systems for years, and

3789
02:55:21,200 --> 02:55:24,640
we just upped this to once every three

3790
02:55:24,640 --> 02:55:26,960
years, although it had been a longer

3791
02:55:26,960 --> 02:55:29,439
period than that. And I see that J&B

3792
02:55:29,439 --> 02:55:32,080
Septic suggested that all systems all

3793
02:55:32,080 --> 02:55:34,000
the time every three years. There is

3794
02:55:34,000 --> 02:55:35,600
reason why they might say that by the

3795
02:55:35,600 --> 02:55:41,040
way. Um I I've I wonder how many systems

3796
02:55:41,040 --> 02:55:44,319
we are finding out of compliance. And

3797
02:55:44,319 --> 02:55:46,240
I'm not saying that inspections are not

3798
02:55:46,240 --> 02:55:50,720
important, but having established this,

3799
02:55:50,720 --> 02:55:53,040
are we finding that septic systems

3800
02:55:53,040 --> 02:55:55,279
continue to be the problem that they

3801
02:55:55,279 --> 02:55:58,479
were a decade ago, or have many of the

3802
02:55:58,479 --> 02:56:01,920
problematic systems been addressed? many

3803
02:56:01,920 --> 02:56:04,800
of the problematic system systems have

3804
02:56:04,800 --> 02:56:08,000
been addressed and I think you know um

3805
02:56:08,000 --> 02:56:11,120
Al's diplomacy has really persuaded a

3806
02:56:11,120 --> 02:56:13,680
lot of people to it but there were there

3807
02:56:13,680 --> 02:56:18,240
were what we really need is a a very

3808
02:56:18,240 --> 02:56:20,880
accurate record system

3809
02:56:20,880 --> 02:56:24,080
>> um because we are going to be learning

3810
02:56:24,080 --> 02:56:26,560
more things we need to do and we'll be

3811
02:56:26,560 --> 02:56:28,800
recruiting grant funding to do that we

3812
02:56:28,800 --> 02:56:30,880
have to have a very solid baseline and

3813
02:56:30,880 --> 02:56:34,960
it's good data sets. And um then what

3814
02:56:34,960 --> 02:56:38,479
we're also finding is the evolution of

3815
02:56:38,479 --> 02:56:40,960
septic systems um they're getting ever

3816
02:56:40,960 --> 02:56:45,680
more sophisticated and the the the kinds

3817
02:56:45,680 --> 02:56:49,120
that he has made himself a specialist in

3818
02:56:49,120 --> 02:56:53,279
installing are really in the high end of

3819
02:56:53,279 --> 02:56:58,080
wastewater treatment. Um not that he's

3820
02:56:58,080 --> 02:57:01,269
you know

3821
02:57:01,279 --> 02:57:03,520
He's not telling us that your best

3822
02:57:03,520 --> 02:57:05,200
practice is to insist that everybody

3823
02:57:05,200 --> 02:57:08,399
have a new septic system, but there are

3824
02:57:08,399 --> 02:57:13,040
ways to go about identif

3825
02:57:13,040 --> 02:57:16,720
um had a situation where the land owner

3826
02:57:16,720 --> 02:57:20,880
had a um a holding tank

3827
02:57:20,880 --> 02:57:23,279
um that got pumped into a septic system,

3828
02:57:23,279 --> 02:57:25,120
but the property owner didn't know that

3829
02:57:25,120 --> 02:57:28,160
he had a septic tank as well. So, that

3830
02:57:28,160 --> 02:57:30,479
hadn't really been looked at. So, we're

3831
02:57:30,479 --> 02:57:34,640
still finding new stuff out and um that

3832
02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:36,720
is weave and it's a regular weave and

3833
02:57:36,720 --> 02:57:39,600
yeah, we're learning more

3834
02:57:39,600 --> 02:57:42,319
about what has been a good start over

3835
02:57:42,319 --> 02:57:45,600
the years by an elk expert, but

3836
02:57:45,600 --> 02:57:49,680
>> there's a consensus that we have to step

3837
02:57:49,680 --> 02:57:50,240
up.

3838
02:57:50,240 --> 02:57:51,680
>> But do you do you understand the

3839
02:57:51,680 --> 02:57:53,520
question? My question is how much are

3840
02:57:53,520 --> 02:57:56,240
these inspections contributing to

3841
02:57:56,240 --> 02:57:58,240
improving the host lake and how much are

3842
02:57:58,240 --> 02:58:00,399
they inspections for inspection thing?

3843
02:58:00,399 --> 02:58:02,560
>> I wish uh Jake were here to answer that

3844
02:58:02,560 --> 02:58:05,600
question. he feels very very strongly

3845
02:58:05,600 --> 02:58:10,560
that um they're needed

3846
02:58:10,560 --> 02:58:13,040
>> and and again

3847
02:58:13,040 --> 02:58:15,120
we're going to run into very

3848
02:58:15,120 --> 02:58:17,840
old-fashioned you know system holding

3849
02:58:17,840 --> 02:58:19,359
tanks that have to be pumped out all the

3850
02:58:19,359 --> 02:58:20,560
time right

3851
02:58:20,560 --> 02:58:23,920
>> um and to the very modern systems which

3852
02:58:23,920 --> 02:58:26,640
have their own you know it's the old saw

3853
02:58:26,640 --> 02:58:30,160
about high techch high risk um there are

3854
02:58:30,160 --> 02:58:32,000
some of these more sophisticated systems

3855
02:58:32,000 --> 02:58:36,000
require a lot more attention and um go

3856
02:58:36,000 --> 02:58:38,399
south badly if they aren't done

3857
02:58:38,399 --> 02:58:42,720
properly. So um but to to your general

3858
02:58:42,720 --> 02:58:45,760
question I think all the scientists we

3859
02:58:45,760 --> 02:58:48,399
speak with on the water w waterershed

3860
02:58:48,399 --> 02:58:51,200
supervisory committee everybody who's

3861
02:58:51,200 --> 02:58:52,560
addressed this issue believes the

3862
02:58:52,560 --> 02:58:55,680
inspections are are necessary. Having

3863
02:58:55,680 --> 02:58:58,000
had inspected having had septic systems

3864
02:58:58,000 --> 02:59:02,800
for about total 16 to 20 years,

3865
02:59:02,800 --> 02:59:04,960
you know, I didn't even one time I

3866
02:59:04,960 --> 02:59:06,160
didn't even know where there was a

3867
02:59:06,160 --> 02:59:08,000
problem. We found it just during pumping

3868
02:59:08,000 --> 02:59:11,520
out. Um, you know, just serendipitously

3869
02:59:11,520 --> 02:59:13,279
we found a problem before it became

3870
02:59:13,279 --> 02:59:14,800
disaster.

3871
02:59:14,800 --> 02:59:16,880
Um, so, you know, maybe you're right.

3872
02:59:16,880 --> 02:59:18,560
Maybe the systems have changed. Maybe

3873
02:59:18,560 --> 02:59:20,240
they're better than they were when I

3874
02:59:20,240 --> 02:59:22,960
last had a system 20 years ago or so.

3875
02:59:22,960 --> 02:59:25,920
But, uh, I I I don't see a I don't see a

3876
02:59:25,920 --> 02:59:28,960
downside having these things inspected.

3877
02:59:28,960 --> 02:59:30,800
I mean, I get that there's an expenses

3878
02:59:30,800 --> 02:59:33,120
that was needed, but I think it's to the

3879
02:59:33,120 --> 02:59:35,680
benefit of the property owner, too.

3880
02:59:35,680 --> 02:59:38,880
>> Yeah. I I think really uh and we should

3881
02:59:38,880 --> 02:59:40,080
probably have a longer discussion of

3882
02:59:40,080 --> 02:59:45,200
this some point, but the I as Jake put it, you know, we've

3883
02:59:45,200 --> 02:59:47,760
done a lot for this lake over the last

3884
02:59:47,760 --> 02:59:50,560
25 or 30 years.

3885
02:59:50,560 --> 02:59:53,359
>> And it and we're still having trouble.

3886
02:59:53,359 --> 02:59:56,000
Um and he said if we hadn't done that

3887
02:59:56,000 --> 02:59:57,760
we'd be so much better to solve and we

3888
02:59:57,760 --> 03:00:01,520
have to do more so that we prevent you

3889
03:00:01,520 --> 03:00:04,880
know the advent of different kinds

3890
03:00:04,880 --> 03:00:06,160
additional and different kinds of

3891
03:00:06,160 --> 03:00:09,200
problems. Um, you know, in a hospital

3892
03:00:09,200 --> 03:00:10,960
metaphor,

3893
03:00:10,960 --> 03:00:13,279
my conclusion is that this lake is in an

3894
03:00:13,279 --> 03:00:16,080
intensive care unit already with what

3895
03:00:16,080 --> 03:00:18,319
we're doing, monitoring, and so on. And

3896
03:00:18,319 --> 03:00:18,560
so,

3897
03:00:18,560 --> 03:00:21,279
>> a lot of this, you know, is is a bit of

3898
03:00:21,279 --> 03:00:23,120
committee work. I think at this point,

3899
03:00:23,120 --> 03:00:25,359
you're looking for

3900
03:00:25,359 --> 03:00:28,399
um, you know, can we authorize the use

3901
03:00:28,399 --> 03:00:31,680
of this at 85 $87

3902
03:00:31,680 --> 03:00:34,479
an hour? How many hours? and I've just

3903
03:00:34,479 --> 03:00:37,439
looked at the budget and I would say why

3904
03:00:37,439 --> 03:00:42,479
don't we authorize up to 15 hours of um

3905
03:00:42,479 --> 03:00:45,040
consultation and assistance

3906
03:00:45,040 --> 03:00:46,880
>> and that would be within the budget

3907
03:00:46,880 --> 03:00:47,760
>> right and then we can

3908
03:00:47,760 --> 03:00:49,439
>> there's the motion second

3909
03:00:49,439 --> 03:00:50,160
>> yes

3910
03:00:50,160 --> 03:00:51,439
>> second all in favor

3911
03:00:51,439 --> 03:00:53,120
>> I

3912
03:00:53,120 --> 03:00:55,840
>> um that it for watershed

3913
03:00:55,840 --> 03:00:56,560
>> um

3914
03:00:56,560 --> 03:00:58,960
>> the only I can't correct your minutes

3915
03:00:58,960 --> 03:01:02,479
but I think um you meant on meeting with

3916
03:01:02,479 --> 03:01:05,920
J&B septic that you met with members of

3917
03:01:05,920 --> 03:01:07,840
the sewer plant. You didn't meet with

3918
03:01:07,840 --> 03:01:10,000
members of the water plant.

3919
03:01:10,000 --> 03:01:12,800
>> Sewer plant, right? Eric and

3920
03:01:12,800 --> 03:01:14,319
>> Yeah. because they were the ones.

3921
03:01:14,319 --> 03:01:15,120
>> Yeah.

3922
03:01:15,120 --> 03:01:16,160
>> Mistake and Eric.

3923
03:01:16,160 --> 03:01:16,399
>> Yeah.

3924
03:01:16,399 --> 03:01:19,680
>> Um the big item for everybody's

3925
03:01:19,680 --> 03:01:22,000
attention is that on September 15th at

3926
03:01:22,000 --> 03:01:23,840
the Glen Glass State Park, we're going

3927
03:01:23,840 --> 03:01:26,080
to have the second nine element plan

3928
03:01:26,080 --> 03:01:29,120
public meeting that um some of you may

3929
03:01:29,120 --> 03:01:32,080
have gone to last year. That's a major

3930
03:01:32,080 --> 03:01:34,720
milestone in uh

3931
03:01:34,720 --> 03:01:36,479
>> under the terms of the grant we have to

3932
03:01:36,479 --> 03:01:38,399
have three public meetings. So this is

3933
03:01:38,399 --> 03:01:40,319
public meeting number two.

3934
03:01:40,319 --> 03:01:45,040
>> Um on the wake vote issue um while

3935
03:01:45,040 --> 03:01:46,880
everybody has

3936
03:01:46,880 --> 03:01:48,720
>> six to eight.

3937
03:01:48,720 --> 03:01:52,160
>> Thank you. While everybody hasn't done

3938
03:01:52,160 --> 03:01:55,120
the same thing, all municipalities have

3939
03:01:55,120 --> 03:01:57,760
stepped up to do something

3940
03:01:57,760 --> 03:02:00,800
um about managing uh wake boats. So

3941
03:02:00,800 --> 03:02:03,840
that's a I think that's a tribute to the

3942
03:02:03,840 --> 03:02:06,160
collaboration and cooperation very

3943
03:02:06,160 --> 03:02:08,960
differently to interest in the lake. Um

3944
03:02:08,960 --> 03:02:12,720
but that that's um that's a good thing.

3945
03:02:12,720 --> 03:02:15,439
And way after you did it for the

3946
03:02:15,439 --> 03:02:16,960
village, Cindy, the village of

3947
03:02:16,960 --> 03:02:20,080
Springfield salt shed is 95% complete.

3948
03:02:20,080 --> 03:02:20,560
>> Yay.

3949
03:02:20,560 --> 03:02:22,960
>> And um that's amazing. I couldn't

3950
03:02:22,960 --> 03:02:25,760
believe the statistics they gave about

3951
03:02:25,760 --> 03:02:28,880
in the absence of the shed up to 30% of

3952
03:02:28,880 --> 03:02:32,399
the product is lost.

3953
03:02:32,399 --> 03:02:35,760
>> So um

3954
03:02:35,760 --> 03:02:38,720
I and the rest uh I I think those are

3955
03:02:38,720 --> 03:02:40,479
the highlights. I won't take more.

3956
03:02:40,479 --> 03:02:42,080
>> Okay, that's great. Motion to accept

3957
03:02:42,080 --> 03:02:46,720
water at WSC minutes um report by

3958
03:02:46,720 --> 03:02:49,120
George, second by Molly. All in favor

3959
03:02:49,120 --> 03:02:52,800
and we had one other item,

3960
03:02:52,800 --> 03:02:55,439
excuse me,

3961
03:02:55,439 --> 03:03:00,240
resolution number seven of 2026.

3962
03:03:00,240 --> 03:03:04,479
um adopting the Atgo County 2026 hazard

3963
03:03:04,479 --> 03:03:07,120
mitigation plan that has been out there

3964
03:03:07,120 --> 03:03:09,840
in the public and all the municipalities

3965
03:03:09,840 --> 03:03:15,359
participated in it. Um I move that um we

3966
03:03:15,359 --> 03:03:18,319
uh adopt it resolution number seven of

3967
03:03:18,319 --> 03:03:22,479
2026 second by Cindy. All in favor?

3968
03:03:22,479 --> 03:03:26,000
>> That's it. Um I will adjourn. Reminder,

3969
03:03:26,000 --> 03:03:27,600
breakfast with the board, our next

3970
03:03:27,600 --> 03:03:29,680
meeting September 28th, breakfast with

3971
03:03:29,680 --> 03:03:32,560
the board at 8. Regular trustee meeting

3972
03:03:32,560 --> 03:03:34,240
at 6.

3973
03:03:34,240 --> 03:03:37,479
>> Thank you.