1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 meeting. On Monday August 3rd, 2026. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,720 This is a virtual meeting occurring both 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:10,550 in person at Village 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,760 And then you can either watch our live 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,400 stream now on our YouTube channel or 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,160 check us out later. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,840 It's 6:30, so I'll call the meeting to 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,280 order. 9 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,520 We have a quorum and the agenda was 10 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,640 properly posted. So, we'll stand for the 11 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,510 Pledge of Allegiance. 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,960 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 13 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,040 United States of America 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,720 and to the Republic for which it stands, 15 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,280 one nation under God, indivisible, with 16 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,030 liberty and justice for all. 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,840 » All right. This is the public 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,480 appearances public's opportunity to 19 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,920 speak. We ask that you say your name, 20 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,440 address, and limit your comments to no 21 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,520 more than 3 minutes. Um we'll start with 22 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,000 anyone in the room who'd like to give 23 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,000 public comment and then move to Zoom and 24 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,080 individuals on Zoom can hover over the 25 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,120 react button and use the raise hand 26 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,400 feature so we can unmute you. 27 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,320 Is there anyone in the room that would 28 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:07,990 like to speak? 29 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,470 Is there anyone on Zoom? 30 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,320 Not seeing any. All right. We're going 31 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:17,040 to move on to discuss the minutes of the 32 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,640 Village Board meeting on July 20th, 33 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,160 2026. 34 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Are there any comments um on the meeting 35 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,470 minutes as presented? 36 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,680 Seeing none, we're going to move on to 37 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,920 consider the minutes of the Village 38 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Board meeting on July 20th, 2026. 39 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,160 >> I move approval of the minutes of the 40 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,000 Village Board meeting on July 20th, 41 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,600 2026. 42 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,240 >> And I would second. Motion by 43 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,040 Severson, second by Murphy. Any other 44 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,880 discussion? 45 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,120 All those in favor? 46 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,640 >> Aye. 47 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,040 >> Opposed? Abstain? Motion carries. 48 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Um moving on to unfinished business. We 49 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,000 have discussed the traffic impact 50 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 analysis um regarding Cottage Grove 51 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,640 School and we have our Village Engineer 52 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Josh and a Director of Public Works 53 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Kayla on um the Zoom call, so I'd let 54 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,800 them unmute. Um we also have two 55 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,160 documents linked in the agenda um for 56 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,510 review. 57 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,880 » Hi everyone. Um so this was previously 58 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,959 discussed at the Public Works Committee 59 00:02:14,959 --> 00:02:18,480 level um about 2 and 1/2 months ago. 60 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,400 The what came out of Public Works is a 61 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,480 variety of things, and Josh will go in 62 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,440 more to the TIA analysis um from 63 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,400 Strand's point of view. But what came 64 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,040 out of Public Works is in discussions 65 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,760 with Chief Gary, who was also on the 66 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,400 call at the Public Works Committee, was 67 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,959 that we were going to look to see how 68 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:37,120 traffic ended up 69 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,640 playing out once school started. There 70 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:42,320 was no reason given in the TIA why they 71 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,520 moved a right in, right out um for 72 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,200 circulation at the Cottage Grove School. 73 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,400 We believe that it helps traffic flow on 74 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,400 their parking lot side. However, 75 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,040 there is a level of service at the Well 76 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,080 Bridge zone that is failing based on 77 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,680 their analysis. So from there, we're 78 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,360 going to see how traffic actually flows 79 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,800 because while TIAs are very beneficial, 80 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,120 sometimes you never know how 81 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,720 drop-offs actually occur with school 82 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,239 zones. With that, I'll let it you go, 83 00:03:10,239 --> 00:03:13,509 Josh. 84 00:03:13,519 --> 00:03:14,640 » Thanks, Kayla. Can [clears throat] you 85 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:17,430 hear me okay? 86 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,680 » Yep, we can hear you. 87 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,840 >> Yeah, okay. So, you know, like Kayla 88 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,720 said, um as part of that site plan kind 89 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,959 of modification that they have there, 90 00:03:26,959 --> 00:03:29,120 um the Plan Commission and the Board 91 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,600 asked them to put together kind of a 92 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,160 traffic analysis. They put together a 93 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,680 technical memorandum. It's just kind of 94 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,760 one intersection, similar to like a TIA, 95 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,280 just kind of a uh 96 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,680 a kind of a 97 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,120 tighter summary of just the one 98 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,920 intersection. Um you know, we reviewed 99 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,959 the we reviewed the summary, and they 100 00:03:44,959 --> 00:03:45,959 kind of came up with some of the same 101 00:03:45,959 --> 00:03:49,480 conclusions we did. Um if you recall, 102 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,280 the site now is going to instead of 103 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,160 having two two entrances to the school, 104 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,080 you'll only have one, the south one. The 105 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,800 north one will kind of be reconfigured 106 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,120 for the buses only to enter. The buses 107 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,640 can enter both left and right, but the 108 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,880 school entrance one will be right in, 109 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,400 right out. So everybody will have to 110 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,959 approach the school from the south and 111 00:04:09,959 --> 00:04:11,600 they'll have to exit the school going 112 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:12,760 north. 113 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,840 Um that's just for the peak hours. So 114 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,079 it's just for drop-off 115 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:19,079 and pick-up. Otherwise, you can go in 116 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:20,760 and out of that driveway 117 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,080 um however you would like the rest of 118 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,160 the day. 119 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,440 So as part of that, um obviously we knew 120 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,320 that traffic was going to be rerouted. 121 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,040 You know, everybody from the north that 122 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,160 wants to get to the school is going to 123 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,880 have to work their way around. Um 124 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,480 that's obviously going to be down alley 125 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,640 or or somewhere over in that side just 126 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,040 to the west of of Main Street and it's 127 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,680 going to end up at the Well Bridge 128 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,080 Taylor um Main Street intersection. So 129 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,520 they looked at that and what they found 130 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,840 um their traffic engineer found that the 131 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:50,520 existing building 132 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,680 had roughly the AM peak is really the 133 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,400 critical one. Um but the AM peak had 134 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:00,000 roughly 374 trips in the morning today 135 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,919 um from 294 136 00:05:02,919 --> 00:05:04,200 enrolled students. Some of those are 137 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,680 people coming to school or the teachers 138 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,400 coming to school as well. 139 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,080 The evaluation added an additional 223 140 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,880 morning trips. 141 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,480 Or I'm sorry, 223 new students for an 142 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,440 addition of 116 new trips. 143 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,080 So um it was quite a few new trips, but 144 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,080 the biggest thing is the pattern 145 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,400 difference, right? And and 146 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,919 um they looked at that specifically 147 00:05:26,919 --> 00:05:28,280 and 148 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:30,680 you know, what they found in the AM 149 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,280 is that, you know, right now at Well 150 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:34,960 Bridge down there, I'm just kind of 151 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,560 summarizing, 152 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,400 in the AM peak, 153 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,080 so the peak hour in the AM, 16 people or 154 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,560 16 vehicles take a left turn out of 155 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,600 there. 156 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,240 Once that school peak he he hits, it's 157 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,880 going to change to about 233 vehicles 158 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,240 trying to take a left out of that 159 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,320 intersection. So, it's a big it's a big 160 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,600 difference and a big number and it's a 161 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,640 stop controlled and everything else on 162 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,800 Main Street, right? Has no has no 163 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,840 control. So, they have to wait for a gap 164 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:04,480 to get out. And what the modeling shows 165 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,960 is that 166 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,520 um 167 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,200 the intersection, you know, is over 168 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,360 capacity on that one leg, meaning that 169 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,680 you know, the queues get pretty long. 170 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,160 The queues get up to 500 ft actually 171 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,800 along that route. They'll probably go 172 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,560 back on Wellbridge, end up Ali a little 173 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,080 bit depending on where vehicles are 174 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,000 coming. And on average it exceeds about 175 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,160 a 3-minute wait. Now, again, that's for 176 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,120 a small period, probably 15 to 20 177 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,720 minutes, maybe half an hour max during 178 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,080 the day. But, it's a point where you 179 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,640 know, as we stated in our thing that 180 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,680 people are going to probably get a 181 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,040 little more aggressive, try to take some 182 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,919 smaller gaps. We're going to monitor the 183 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:42,200 situation, you know, as they try to turn 184 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,880 out of there. 185 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,840 In the in the afternoon, it's not as 186 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,760 bad, but it still has it still has about 187 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,720 175 ft. Overall, it operates a little 188 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,600 bit better and I forget the average 189 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,640 delay, but I think it's in half of what 190 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,040 it was 191 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,600 in the AM. 192 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,720 So, 193 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,760 um what they pointed out 194 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,560 in here was it was something that would 195 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,600 have to be monitored in in their traffic 196 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,880 analysis. We suggest maybe two 197 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,360 alternatives. You know, they looked at a 198 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,240 stop they looked at an all-way stop 199 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,320 there. The problem is 200 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,040 it doesn't it meets warrants for like 201 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,160 that 30 minutes to an hour, but the rest 202 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,000 of the day you know, it doesn't really 203 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,280 meet warrants. You know, having people 204 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,520 stop on Main Street for no reason at 205 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,080 that intersection could get frustrating 206 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,000 also just to the main north-south 207 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,480 traffic. But, that's something to 208 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,720 explore 209 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,760 maybe as we see how this unfolds um in 210 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,560 the fall. 211 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,919 Um the other two primary alternatives we 212 00:07:35,919 --> 00:07:37,960 thought was, you know, if it gets to be 213 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,320 real bad, you know, one is posting an 214 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,640 officer there to direct traffic at least 215 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,840 it during those peak periods, which, you 216 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,240 know, takes a resource away from um the 217 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,280 village. So, maybe that isn't the best 218 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,520 alternative. 219 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,240 Um the second alternative is possibly 220 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,400 to, you know, go back to the school and 221 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,840 ask why maybe they only want right in 222 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,400 and what right out. You know, was the 223 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,720 left in allowed that bad um before and 224 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,120 is there a reason for it? I think some 225 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,160 of it was trying to get capacity at the 226 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,120 site. 227 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,120 >> park and walk drop-off as a backup if 228 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,440 things get hairy. So, one of the the 229 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,800 places that comes to mind for me is UMB 230 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,960 Bank 231 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,640 um as a um backup drop-off where kids 232 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,440 already are on that side of the street 233 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,080 and could walk up um you know, from 7:15 234 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,880 to 7:45, UMB doesn't open till 9:00. Um 235 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,039 so, could we have like a 236 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:38,479 backup remote parking lot, too, just in 237 00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:40,719 our back pocket in case 238 00:08:40,719 --> 00:08:42,240 I think it's wise for us to see what 239 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,039 actually is happening before we make any 240 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:45,800 sort of permanent changes, but maybe 241 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,720 just having a few 242 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,280 creative ideas in the background 243 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,520 to would help. 244 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,120 >> Josh, you um you mentioned reevaluating 245 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,960 the the site. How long do you give 246 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,160 school the 247 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,120 you know, people to work out their 248 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,720 routines before you start doing some 249 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,280 type of evaluating of the site or of 250 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,310 that intersection? 251 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,880 » I mean, obviously, I would say and and 252 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,640 Chief knows this, you know, probably 253 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,000 watch it day one as, you know, this is 254 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,560 going to be a new condition, you know, 255 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:18,320 change for the first week, but you 256 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,800 probably wouldn't actually look at some 257 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,320 of the cues and everything else until 258 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,360 you're getting into the second or third 259 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,040 week once people get kind of used to the 260 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,120 routine and adjust a little bit on their 261 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,640 own. I don't I I do anticipate the first 262 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,640 few days to be just different, right? Um 263 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,960 one, the school district has to get the 264 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,520 message out that they can't turn left 265 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,920 into that driveway. They have a 266 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,400 circulation plan that they have to get 267 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,640 um everybody used to as well. 268 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,520 There's [clears throat] new parents 269 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,400 obviously that probably aren't you know, 270 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,600 that were in a different totally 271 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,400 different building. So the first week 272 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,760 could be a little could could show the 273 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,800 true you know, 274 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,160 what it's going to be like. I would give 275 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,040 it a week still monitor it during that 276 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,200 week and have some presence there to to 277 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,240 help the situation of traffic it's bad 278 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,640 and then 279 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,120 probably you know, Kyle we can discuss 280 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,720 and the board can discuss you know, 281 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,880 maybe after that what what's the next 282 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,000 steps as far as do we count traffic? Do 283 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,040 we just watch some queuing too? I mean 284 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,440 that's easy enough to do. How far did 285 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,840 the queues get back during some of those 286 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,680 peak hours to understand like how how 287 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:18,400 much is the delay? So there's some 288 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,320 visual things you can just do right away 289 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,720 and it kind of get a feel for what the 290 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,200 level of service is. 291 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,000 >> Chief, how realistic is it to have an 292 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,560 officer there in the morning during that 293 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:31,590 time? 294 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,240 » Depending on staffing, we'll do our best 295 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,710 to have somebody present. 296 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,200 » Heidi. 297 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,880 >> Thanks. 298 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Remind me I I don't recall if the school 299 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,560 mentioned that there'll be signs for the 300 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,880 right in right out during the school 301 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,920 drop-off times or will they have someone 302 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,960 out there like telling people not to 303 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:57,120 turn left in or do I don't remember if they said does it 304 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,760 say somewhere here or do you know of any 305 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,470 signs going up? 306 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,920 » You know, they mentioned we had some of 307 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,120 those same comments right at planning 308 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,800 commission I believe and they mentioned 309 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,160 that part of orientation some of the 310 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,640 information that they send out prior to 311 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,760 the school year and then they were going 312 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,440 to have you know, on-site 313 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,560 representatives that was going to help 314 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:18,960 especially that first week. I think 315 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Heidi you know, to make sure that 316 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,360 everybody understands even their 317 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,080 internal drop-off 318 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,760 situation. So 319 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,080 they made it sound like that first week 320 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,600 for them too was all hands on deck sort 321 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,640 of thing. 322 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,920 >> But we won't have any signs 323 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 installed on the roadway? No. Or right 324 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,000 in, right out only or anything like 325 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,790 that? 326 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,120 I'm not asking that there should be. I 327 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,520 just wasn't sure if they were going to 328 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,760 be. 329 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,400 >> They do have Not at this time, but it's 330 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,600 definitely something that we can look 331 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,840 into. 332 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,360 >> Is that the village's responsibility to 333 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,350 put those types of signs up? 334 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,200 » In this case, the right out would only 335 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,880 would be a school district sign cuz it 336 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,560 would be for them. 337 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:03,360 Uh 338 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,120 on our end, 339 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,160 I would have to discuss with Aaron cuz a 340 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,480 lot of times that would be like a 341 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,440 requirement of like plan approval and I 342 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,000 don't remember if we ever saw anything 343 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Josh in plan in the plan removal 344 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,400 requiring that. 345 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,200 But it's something that's not an overly 346 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,800 expensive ask, so we could probably talk 347 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,120 to the school uh school district about. 348 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,480 And the contractor. 349 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,720 >> Yeah, but definitely don't need to 350 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:26,520 decide that. 351 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,440 >> Are you thinking permanent signs, 352 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,720 Isla? Permanent signs or just signs that 353 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,280 they put out 354 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,000 they just put out boards? 355 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,400 >> you could put like a sandwich board out 356 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,200 or something, but you know, there's 357 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,808 always adjustments that we can make 358 00:12:39,808 --> 00:12:41,400 [clears throat] after you see the real 359 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,320 life. Thank you. 360 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:43,839 >> Correct. 361 00:12:43,839 --> 00:12:45,360 >> Yeah, I don't think they they probably 362 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,760 wouldn't put permanent because they want 363 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,640 they will allow left in the rest of the 364 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,080 day and left out after drop-off. You 365 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,640 know, if you if you were to come to the 366 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,600 school in the middle of the day for 367 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,920 whatever reason, right? To pick up your 368 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,640 kid to take him to an appointment or or 369 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,400 what, you could turn left in there. 370 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,600 They're not restricting access 371 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,760 during the day, just during drop-off and 372 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,800 pick-up, from what I understand 373 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,839 from the school district. 374 00:13:08,839 --> 00:13:11,320 >> I think they do have a 375 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,680 right turn only sign when you're leaving 376 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:18,640 CGS. Um they do have videos and 377 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:19,720 communication that's going to be going 378 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:20,720 out to all parents that they're going to 379 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,720 be rolling out pretty soon and the 380 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,040 village has been asked to share that 381 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,960 information as well. So, we'll be doing 382 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,550 that. 383 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:31,720 Any other discussion from board members 384 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,310 or questions about the TIA? 385 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,680 » Um yeah, I guess this isn't this is just 386 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:40,320 to discuss. Um so, we're not doing any 387 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,000 specific action, but um I'm inclined to 388 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,360 agree certainly early on like for these 389 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,640 first couple weeks, I like the the signs 390 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,520 idea and potentially an officer again, 391 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,240 if nothing else just for this first 392 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,800 these first couple weeks to to make it 393 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,440 as little chaos as possible and then 394 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,480 Yeah, but it but yeah, if we're not 395 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,680 doing anything specific right now, 396 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:05,320 that's just my thoughts, I guess. 397 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,280 >> If there's uh no other discussion on the 398 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,200 TIA, um I'd ask the board if they'd be 399 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,920 amenable to having 400 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,280 um 7 401 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,880 B and B1 moved up to continue the 402 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,200 discussion. 403 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,240 Um 404 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,800 Trustee Stola and myself uh worked on an 405 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,880 some 406 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,440 agenda item to talk about some of the traffic and some potential measures 407 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,640 near CGS that we could take. 408 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,040 That's all right to bring that item 409 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,880 forward now. All right. 410 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,760 So, we'll move on to 7B, discuss traffic 411 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,640 calming at CGS. 412 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,560 Trustee Stola. 413 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,880 >> Sure. Um 414 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,000 so, yeah, I just 415 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,320 it's I mean it's I think it's pretty 416 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,400 clear to everyone that this is going to 417 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,480 be a bit of a mess to start with. So, 418 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,160 just wanted to talk about concrete steps 419 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,839 we could take to 420 00:14:52,839 --> 00:14:54,400 maybe alleviate it as best we can. I 421 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:55,800 know Cindy 422 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,920 um curious about having 423 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,000 similar parking signs as the right 424 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,440 that's like no parking during the 425 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,560 drop-off times. Um we could do temporary 426 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,440 no left turn signs. 427 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,720 Um 428 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:17,000 just curious to see what everyone else thinks. 429 00:15:17,010 --> 00:15:17,080 » [clears throat] 430 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,360 >> So, during the 431 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,360 So, I was on planning commission when 432 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,120 this first first came up and during that 433 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,600 discussion, 434 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,120 um and in the subsequent board meeting, 435 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,400 it seemed like everyone was very 436 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,000 amenable to doing the no parking on the 437 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,920 east side of Main Street during that 438 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,280 drop-off time frame. Because then that 439 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,440 would help with the queue, it helps get 440 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,720 them off the main road. 441 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,320 Um so, from a traffic standpoint, uh in 442 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,280 case we do get a backup, it's one 443 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,680 we have that lane that's free that they 444 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,600 can queue up. And that us Oh, I have to 445 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,080 go back and look. I Unfortunately, don't 446 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,200 have it in front of me. 447 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,160 Um close to 130 cars between what's in 448 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,320 the parking lot all the way down to 449 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,640 pretty much close to Wheel Bridge 450 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Taylor. 451 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,400 Um so, most likely for that peak 452 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,880 drop-off, 453 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,640 there's a good chance that it could be 454 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,240 addressed by 455 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,120 just having the block and all Main 456 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,550 Street all the way down there. 457 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,760 » My thought on that, which I like the 458 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,960 idea. I'm just curious if people who are 459 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,120 dropping their kids off are going to see 460 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,960 that and think they can't queue there 461 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,400 cuz it says no parking during those 462 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,839 times. So, how will how do we tell 463 00:16:29,839 --> 00:16:31,160 people that there's a difference between 464 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,640 parking and queuing? 465 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,120 I don't know. 466 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,440 >> So, I guess maybe this is a question for 467 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,360 Chief or Kyla. There are signs out there 468 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,360 um 469 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,440 along kind of the length of CGS that say 470 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,160 no stopping, standing, or parking. 471 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,230 How does that apply to a queue line? 472 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,400 » So, if it reads no standing, um 473 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,920 that would affect a queue queue line. 474 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,400 But, if it just says no parking, 475 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,720 then so, like on the west side, it says 476 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,720 no parking during certain hours. 477 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,520 That leaves the road open for the 478 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,760 queuing and for traffic to move through 479 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,550 and flow. 480 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,520 So, that's the way I would view it as a no parking. 481 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,800 >> So, I guess 482 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,110 >> That That one. 483 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,520 » Yeah, so that one should probably come 484 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,240 out if that's still there. But, I don't 485 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,080 I mean I don't know 486 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,120 >> So, you have the curb the curb's painted 487 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:33,000 yellow wherever that sign is, I believe, 488 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,800 Kyla. I think. 489 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,280 >> Which is the 490 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:36,840 sign? Yeah. 491 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,600 >> that sign's in. 492 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,040 >> I mean, I 493 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,600 >> I'm sorry, I'm sharing just so everybody 494 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,200 knows. 495 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,200 >> my question is how customizable are like 496 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,480 the no parking signs? Can it say no 497 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,400 parking, school queuing permitted, or 498 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:57,190 something like that? 499 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,240 » I guess I would put 500 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,120 >> I believe we can 501 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:01,600 do that. Oh, go ahead. 502 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,400 >> No, go ahead, Kyla. 503 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,280 >> Um I believe you can make that sign. It 504 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,200 just 505 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,960 I would recommend that it would be used 506 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,160 in very limited spaces cuz it is not a 507 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,880 standard DOT kind of regulation sign. 508 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,470 Chief? 509 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,200 » I was just going to say I'd I'd use the 510 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,240 signs similar to what are on the west 511 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,320 side that have the hours already spelled 512 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,237 out of no parking. 513 00:18:30,237 --> 00:18:30,480 >> [clears throat] 514 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,360 >> I mean, I think it's only going to be a 515 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,440 problem for the first 516 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,080 couple weeks, and then people will after 517 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,280 that people will understand that it's 518 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,800 okay to queue there. 519 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,960 I just worry that they're going to 520 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,880 see that, 521 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,960 keep driving, 522 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,000 and get frustrated cuz they're going to 523 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,720 have to turn around. 524 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,960 >> Mhm. 525 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,440 >> And they'll have to turn around by going 526 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,640 from alley to Wheel Bridge. 527 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,640 >> Could we also utilize the message board 528 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,240 sign that we have, and then the police 529 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,360 department's speed sign to reinforce 530 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:01,200 those two messages? 531 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,560 And then one other thought I had was um 532 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,960 to specifically slow traffic down 533 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,840 um is using flexible delineator posts 534 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,200 um for that kind of the length of that 535 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,280 area, it also helps slow things down. 536 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,400 Um, 537 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:24,270 just as another thought. 538 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,120 » Additionally, I would also like to see a 539 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:28,000 striped crosswalk at the crosswalk 540 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,840 there. 541 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,470 So, it's higher visibility. 542 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,880 » Is it not striped? The one that's right 543 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,870 by the school? Oh, 544 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,680 » Chris, [clears throat] are you looking 545 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,640 for 546 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,400 um, striping in terms of ladder 547 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,840 striping? 548 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,710 >> Yes. 549 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,840 » I'd be in favor of 550 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,800 for high visibility crosswalks and I am 551 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,240 in favor and I'm 552 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,840 still in favor of no parking. 553 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,470 Um, 554 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,880 any other discussion on this? 555 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,520 >> I'd prefer a raised crosswalk, but I'm 556 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,880 willing to to compromise and just have a striped 557 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,390 crossing. 558 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,760 » Um, let's move on to consider traffic 559 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,600 calming at Cottage Grove School. 560 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:30,910 And entertain a motion. 561 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,640 » Okay, I'll make the motion to put the no 562 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:39,880 parking signs with the appropriate times 563 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,400 and the striped So, on the west side of 564 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,880 or sorry, east side of Main Street, 565 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,160 school side, from the school all the way 566 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,160 down to uh, 567 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,000 Wheelbarrow Taylor. 568 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,640 And 569 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,760 put the striped crosswalk or make sure 570 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,840 that crosswalk is striped up by the 571 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,670 school. 572 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,480 » I would second. 573 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,320 >> Motion by JP, second by Seaverson. 574 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,360 Debate on the motion. 575 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,200 >> Can I just ask 576 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,040 >> Can I ask the clerk Can I ask a 577 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,280 clarifying, Cindy? 578 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,760 >> Yep. 579 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,480 >> Um Chris, just so I don't mispaint this 580 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,920 and have staff paint it, are you is the 581 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,520 village board interested in having this 582 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,280 one green? It would be the only green 583 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,800 crosswalk that we have in the middle of 584 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,200 a street. Um 585 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,320 but since we're going to have to 586 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,920 restripe it, I thought I would throw 587 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,830 that out there 588 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,320 The green would match the bike path 589 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,560 green that is along the bike path on 590 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,520 Cottage Grove Road that we just did in 591 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,920 front of driveways for the commercial 592 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,240 areas. 593 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,200 >> I mean, I I don't know. 594 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,560 Uh is I I don't I was under the 595 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,760 impression that greens usually mean 596 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,120 green usually means bikes and that's not 597 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:52,200 really 598 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,240 connecting bike paths, but I mean, if 599 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,000 it's 600 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,080 I don't know the standards from the 601 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,400 MUTCD, but 602 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,320 um 603 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,960 I'm fine with it. 604 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,320 >> I was going to suggest type is yellow to 605 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,680 match the crosswalk sign that's right 606 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,990 there. 607 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,160 » Yellow's not a standard, so it would not 608 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,040 be yellow. That would be conflicting 609 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,960 with the road. Um 610 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,320 I can I will look into it. It will be 611 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,840 striped and I will confirm if we go 612 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,640 green or yellow green or white, but I 613 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,800 just wanted to throw that out there um 614 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,400 for discussion if it's interested in 615 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,280 being green. It would kind of throw 616 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,680 everything off compared to every other 617 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,000 school zone that we have. I probably 618 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,520 wouldn't suggest it, but since we did 619 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,520 just paint green and I know Chris, you 620 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,440 like green. 621 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,880 >> Do you like Do you have any leftover 622 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,600 from the last paint job? 623 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,000 >> You're on duty. 624 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,920 >> I do like green. Um do you have any 625 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,960 leftover from the last paint job on the 626 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,040 um multi-use path? 627 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,040 >> We do, yeah. 628 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,320 >> Okay. 629 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,600 Yeah, I mean, I 630 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,720 Go ahead, Jamie. 631 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,960 >> So, Chris, would you 632 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,800 um agree with the amendment to the 633 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,480 striping to say that conforming to 634 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,960 this is where I'm going to need some 635 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,240 assistant. 636 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:07,520 >> I'm your guy. 637 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,560 >> Oh, sorry. Sorry. 638 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,080 Would you agree to uh make them the 639 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,760 change to straight the striping in 640 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,160 conforming with the DOT regulations or 641 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,000 the appropriate entity which I don't 642 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,040 know 643 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,680 exactly what that is. 644 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,680 >> I I'm going to say sure and just trust 645 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,680 that you know what you're talking about. 646 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Okay. 647 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,160 >> Kyla's nodding, so I think 648 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,720 >> Yeah, okay. 649 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,000 >> I think Kyla gets it and then 650 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,800 >> I'll make sure it's right. 651 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,800 >> All right. 652 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,960 Um any other debate on the motion? 653 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,440 All those in favor? 654 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,520 >> Aye. 655 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,520 >> Opposed? Abstain? Motion carries. And 656 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,920 then just to summarize, too, um we do 657 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,440 have a discussion about crosswalks with 658 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,000 the schools and they have been sending 659 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,040 us communications, so we're going to 660 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,280 start getting rolling all of that 661 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,320 information out after we meet with them, 662 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,840 but then I'll bring up this list, too, 663 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,880 of um creative ideas and then also some 664 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,760 asks for signage or, you um just in 665 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,320 updating them, too, on our discussion 666 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,720 and then, 667 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,720 you know, how will we monitoring this 668 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,480 and then maybe have to, you know, meet 669 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,720 and make some pivots um 670 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,840 in the next first couple weeks of 671 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,200 school. 672 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,640 All right. Let's pop back up to 6B, 673 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,680 which is discuss the Deer Grove EMS 674 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Intergovernmental Agreement, um which 675 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,040 has been edited. Rick. 676 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,400 >> So, the draft tonight is kind of a blend 677 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,880 of the proposal that was presented last 678 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,600 week and the original agreement. So, the 679 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,880 original had a 2-hour limitation for 680 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,000 attorney time for the EMS district for 681 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,280 commissioners. 682 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,600 So, this reduces it to 1 hour, but 683 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,480 allows the commissioner uh but allows 684 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,160 the commission to vote to exceed that 685 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,840 1-hour time limit 686 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,680 to incorporate some of the elements of 687 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,680 the previous draft. Uh basically 688 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,600 clarified that the commission chair or 689 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,040 the EMS chief then forwards that request 690 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040 to legal counsel 691 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,400 and uh notification is also provided to 692 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,680 the commissioners right away. So, the 693 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,040 other communities have not acted on this 694 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,040 or the commission hasn't acted on this 695 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,240 proposed amendment. I think 696 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,200 if it's approved tonight, it would then 697 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,000 go back to those other entities for 698 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,240 consideration. 699 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,440 >> Any discussion on the the amendments? 700 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,640 Can move on to consider the IGA 701 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,040 amendment. 702 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,840 >> I move approval of the Deer Grove EMS 703 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,720 intergovernmental agreement amendment as 704 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,600 presented. 705 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,720 >> I'll second. 706 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,840 >> Motion by Murphy, second by Erlingson. 707 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,880 Any debate on the motion? 708 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,200 All those in favor? 709 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,440 >> Aye. 710 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,560 >> Opposed? Abstain? Motion carries. 711 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080 Seventh, new business, our annual review 712 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,440 is of service providers are kicking off 713 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,560 tonight. Um, and our first one up is 714 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,160 Cities and Villages Mutual Insurance 715 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,920 Company. Um, there's a PDF linked in the 716 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,960 agenda as well as some documents 717 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,080 um, on the table for you. And I invite 718 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,310 our presenter up. 719 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,280 I'll let Cameron introduce and then you 720 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,560 just need to have your microphone on. 721 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,280 >> So, just to kind of kick off because 722 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,960 it's our first service provider review. 723 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,400 So, again, this is kicking off that 724 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,040 annual process um, for our service 725 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,240 providers. Um, 726 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,000 SIVMAC was happy and excited to go very 727 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,160 first and the only one tonight. Um, 728 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,040 picked a good meeting, short meeting. 729 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,120 Um, one of the tentative changes to the 730 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,200 process this year, um, and I'll send out 731 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,000 in a formal memo, um, to the rest of the 732 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,840 providers, but I did send it in an email 733 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,880 today, 734 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,880 um, was to include the general fund and 735 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,400 water and sewer portion of the cost 736 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,920 related to the service provider. Um, 737 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,160 you know, and then kind of just give a 738 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,640 little mini preview to kind of looking 739 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,520 into what potential changes might be 740 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,000 happening in 2027. Um, so today, 741 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560 obviously, we have SIVMAC. Um, on August 742 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800 17th we have Palaterry, Johnson Block 743 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,440 and Strand, and then on September 8th is a little bit of an extended list, but 744 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,760 Ellers, Baker Tilly, Colonial Club, 745 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,560 Stafford, General Engineering and 746 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,760 Associated Appraisal. Um Associated 747 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,040 Appraisal may be uh kicked back until 748 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,640 November 2nd, 749 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,960 um but right now they're on the list for 750 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,320 September 8th. 751 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,760 Um so, please ask um ask our providers 752 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,120 lots of questions tonight. Um nothing's 753 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:23,560 off limits. If you have something for 754 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,240 staff direction, 755 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,040 um for future agenda, um please mention 756 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,840 that under future agenda items on how 757 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,560 you would what what you would want staff 758 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,640 to do and and bring back as, you know, 759 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,040 and get some sense of consensus as a 760 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,440 board, so. 761 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,880 With that said, 762 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,000 um 763 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,440 take it away. 764 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,640 >> Well, good evening. Thank you for having 765 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,000 me speak. My name is Andrew Taylor. I 766 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,480 work with Cities and Villages as Cameron 767 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,560 just said. 768 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,800 Uh I'm picked the right day. I'm glad 769 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,080 this is I saw those hefty lists, so I'll 770 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,800 try to make it a memorable first one for 771 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,040 you. So, uh first of all, who are we, 772 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,280 right? Cities and Villages Mutual 773 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,360 Insurance Company is your insurance 774 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,000 company. Uh the village is a 157th 775 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,640 member owner of our pool. So, we are a 776 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,400 mutual insurance company. Our goal is to 777 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,760 provide you great insurance and great 778 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,120 service. 779 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,880 It's your money. It's your taxpayers' 780 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,400 money that funds this pool. 781 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,880 It is yours. Any profit, so to speak, 782 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,120 any extra comes back to you in the form 783 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,160 of our surplus, our ability to pay 784 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,520 claims, or in the form of service. And 785 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,680 so, what's nice about working with 786 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,880 SIBMIC, we'd like to think, is that all 787 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,600 of that is your resources. I've had a 788 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,720 pleasure of working with a number of 789 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,800 your uh village staff in a number of 790 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,880 trainings. It's nice to see some 791 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,200 familiar faces. 792 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,120 And what we do is hopefully represent 793 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:34,280 your interest by providing great 794 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,160 insurance and providing service. 795 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,800 So, what I'd like to do is just run you 796 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,960 through a little bit of how that works, 797 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,800 kind of what you have with us, and and 798 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,840 how that goes. And of course, at any 799 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,520 time, if you have questions, please feel 800 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,800 free. This is of course your your 801 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,720 meeting. 802 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,640 Um and I'm happy to answer them. 803 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,240 So, I'm Andrew. I've been with SIBMIC 804 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,600 for about 10 years. I am our member 805 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,440 engagement manager. I'm also our 806 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,000 full-time leadership and training 807 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880 trainer. So, I'm the person that does a 808 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,560 lot of your uh leadership and 809 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,360 communication training. So, I have the 810 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,080 pleasure of working with all 57 members 811 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,880 across our state, and I do a lot of the 812 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,200 public speaking and training for them. 813 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,880 So, I'm typically working with city 814 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,960 staff or village staff. Uh I'm always 815 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,160 happy to work with elected officials, 816 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,000 too, though, if you're interested in 817 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,480 attending webinar or training. That's 818 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,560 always, of course, open to, as well. Uh 819 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,560 in front of you, you've got a couple 820 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,280 books. You've got the insurance guide 821 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,600 and the service guide. These are the 822 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,960 documents that we send out to our 823 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,840 membership, as well as any prospect 824 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,520 municipalities that were to think about 825 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,880 joining SIBMIC. Just kind of explain 826 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,320 what we are. So, a lot of what I'm 827 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,760 talking about today, you'll see in the 828 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,320 service guide. 829 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,640 So, 830 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,840 first and foremost, we are your 831 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,720 insurance partner. All right. So, we 832 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,600 like to think that as your insurance 833 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,920 provider, we're able to provide you a 834 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,560 number of things that uh hopefully 835 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,000 increase your peace of mind. Your 836 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,760 primary insurance with us is probably 837 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,040 what you think of as your liability 838 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,000 insurance. That includes any of your 839 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,040 liability that comes from your general 840 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,360 liability, your auto liability, your 841 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,960 public officials, your um 842 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,320 your EPL, your HR-related claims. So, 843 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840 for instance, if you've got um 844 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,120 you know, any kind of major lawsuit 845 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,600 where someone's blaming the village and 846 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,720 saying that you're at fault, the 847 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760 liability insurance likely covers. 848 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,000 Um, and so, that's your primary 849 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,240 coverage. That's what every SIBMIC 850 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,920 member has to have to be a part of our 851 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,120 pool. Most or all of our members also 852 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,040 work with us for the workers' 853 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,280 compensation insurance. So, you're 854 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,400 probably familiar with the work comp 855 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,480 side of things. Um, as well as our auto 856 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,760 physical damage program for your 857 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,000 vehicles. So, if you were to get any 858 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,560 kind of accidents or totaled out a 859 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,560 vehicle, that's what we're doing on the 860 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,840 insurance side. SIBMIC also acts as your 861 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,040 go-between to the larger insurance 862 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520 market. By working with those other 56 863 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,520 municipalities across the state, you're 864 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,600 able to get the power of pooling on your 865 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,200 behalf to get you better rates uh in the 866 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,120 group purchase space. So, you have a 867 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,520 number of what we call group purchases, 868 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,680 where we kind of take that power of 869 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,840 pooling. 25% of the state's population 870 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,440 as was said by Mick. We have almost 871 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,320 20,000 plus employees that work for the 872 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,440 cities and villages that make up our 873 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,240 pool. And so insurance providers get you 874 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,520 much better rate than you'd likely be 875 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,680 able to find on your own. So you have uh 876 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,760 a number of those group purchases 877 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,040 including pollution coverage, crime 878 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,080 coverage, equipment breakdown, some of 879 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,200 those. 880 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,360 So those coverages are placed with 881 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,480 SIBMIC. We're happy to work with you. If 882 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,720 there's stand-alone policies that you 883 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,320 need for things like a fuel tank or 884 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,760 anything like that, we can work with our 885 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,920 broker to secure those coverages. 886 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,160 So that's the insurance part, maybe a 887 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,680 little humdrum. I don't know if that's 888 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,680 really exciting. But the that's the 889 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,840 hopefully that peace of mind part that's 890 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,960 behind the scene. If you're looking at 891 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,360 the book that says 892 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,800 uh insurance 893 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,600 uh more than insurance 894 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,760 you've got uh the insurance guide 895 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,200 rather, sorry, with the green cover. Uh 896 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,120 that's the one that kind of breaks 897 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,280 through those coverages if you wanted to 898 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,720 see that in more detail. 899 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,280 So I want to just kind of walk through 900 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,720 just real briefly. I know you want to be 901 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,200 respectful of your time. Uh SIBMIC uh is 902 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,080 a pool. I mentioned we have 57 members. 903 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,960 You can see uh on the slides here that 904 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,600 we're sharing that those 57 are listed 905 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,200 on the screen. Cottage Grove joined in 906 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,800 2004. We're very excited to have you 907 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,120 join throughout 2023 and your policy uh 908 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,840 started on January 1, '24. So it's been 909 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,160 uh we'd like to hope some good 2 and 910 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,520 1/2, almost 3 years of working with you. 911 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,080 And so you can see that we are governed 912 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,040 by municipal municipalities. I mentioned 913 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,280 before, we are member-owned. 914 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,520 So seven each one of our villages and 915 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,640 cities has a member rep that represents 916 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,320 your village. In this case that's Inga. 917 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,680 And of those 57 member reps, seven of 918 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,480 them sit on our board of directors. And 919 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,480 so you can see on our board of directors 920 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,840 list included Inga who uh joined this 921 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,840 year at the at-large seat. Kind of helps 922 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,960 represent your village and make sure 923 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,360 that you're uh getting all your 924 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,240 services. So you're well represented. 925 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,160 So we like to say our members are our pool is governed by people that are 926 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,520 in a very similar position to your 927 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,120 village staff. These are folks that 928 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,160 understand the municipal needs of 929 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,320 Wisconsin because well, they're 930 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,920 municipalities. 931 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,200 So SIBMIC does offer a number of 932 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,760 services. I wanted to kind of highlight 933 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,040 those for you tonight so you just had a 934 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,680 sense of kind of what we're doing for 935 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,640 you beyond the insurance piece. Of 936 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,960 course our hope and I'm sure yours is 937 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,600 that you never actually have a claim. 938 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,800 So, what are the services that you're 939 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,040 using, right? Are the things that you're 940 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,720 taking advantage of? So, one of the big 941 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,320 things that we offer our membership is 942 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,160 what we call our technology suite. We 943 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,320 offer you the NeoGov suite. So, NeoGov 944 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,520 is provided to all our members at no 945 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,920 additional charge. That's included with 946 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,560 being a member. And that's often how our 947 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,680 members both post positions and hire, 948 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,560 bring them on through onboarding, 949 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,640 and then train them up and get them into 950 00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,960 compliance with the learning management 951 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,000 system. So, that NeoGov suite is paid 952 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,840 for by Sivic. That is available to all 953 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,000 of your village staff. And that's 954 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,400 something that we offer right away. We 955 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,480 also offer our risk reimbursement 956 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,560 program. 957 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,440 That's a 50/50 matching grant program. 958 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,480 So, as you spend things to increase 959 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,280 safety in your village, you can submit 960 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,120 those receipts and get that 961 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,440 reimbursement. 962 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,800 Uh probably what we're most known for is 963 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,880 training. This is the thing that I have 964 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,240 the pleasure of working with my fellow 965 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,040 loss control team members on is that we 966 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,440 work with our cities and villages both 967 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,560 on site. You might see us in your break 968 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,720 rooms or in your, you know, boardrooms 969 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,280 doing training. But, we also offer 970 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,000 programming both on the Zoom space as 971 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,160 well 972 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,360 as in our training center in Milwaukee. 973 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,160 So, if you're familiar with the 974 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,280 Milwaukee County Zoo, our building is 975 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,720 right across the street. We have what 976 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,600 we'd like to think is a fairly 977 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,040 state-of-the-art training center. And 978 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,160 so, we can be working with anywhere from 979 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,480 20 to 40, 50 plus people doing round 980 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,880 tables, connections, trainings, anything 981 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,960 you name it. 982 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,000 So, we offer a variety of safety 983 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,240 programming to reduce your work comp 984 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,800 claims and hopefully your liability 985 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,560 claims as well. So, anything from 986 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,920 chainsaw training to blood borne 987 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,120 pathogen 988 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,760 all the way ranging to those more HR 989 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,320 topics including 990 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,200 FMLA, ADA, anti-harassment training, 991 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,480 those pieces. 992 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,080 So, Sivic is proud to provide you that 993 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,720 training. We offer it both in person and 994 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,840 online. That learning management system 995 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,240 has all those e-learnings and programs 996 00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:12,800 that many of your your 997 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,960 village employees use as part of their 998 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,399 onboarding. And then as part of any 999 00:34:15,399 --> 00:34:18,560 other annual training initiative. 1000 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,280 We also include cyber and volunteer 1001 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,679 insurance for all of our members. By the 1002 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:22,800 way, this is a lot of information. So, 1003 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,840 if anytime you want to jump in, please 1004 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,879 feel free. 1005 00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:27,639 The volunteer and cyber is included as 1006 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,240 part of the Sivic membership. So, we 1007 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:31,320 recognize we are in an evolving cyber 1008 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,320 space with a lot of risk. We're seeing 1009 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,360 that roughly once a month we have a 1010 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,600 member with what would be considered a 1011 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,919 significant or close to significant 1012 00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:41,800 cyber breach. And so we offer that 1013 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,280 proactively to our membership. That 1014 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,800 comes with all that cyber support if 1015 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,480 there is a breach, but in in advance as 1016 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,600 well as training. We also provide system 1017 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,120 scanning for your village so that you 1018 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,800 can get a chance to have your external 1019 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,760 system scanned by a third-party expert 1020 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,399 and let you know about any 1021 00:34:55,399 --> 00:34:57,480 vulnerabilities. So it's a bad day when 1022 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,600 there's ransomware or any threat like 1023 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,560 that to your village. We want to make 1024 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,960 sure that never happens or at least we 1025 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640 try to make sure it never happens. And 1026 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,080 that's what we offer with our cyber. 1027 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,240 We're also big supporters of the law 1028 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,720 enforcement space. 1029 00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:09,520 SIMUWIG is a proud partner with WILEAG, 1030 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,520 the Wisconsin Law Enforcement 1031 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,720 Accreditation Group. We host their 1032 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,760 meetings in our building. We have a 1033 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,120 staff spot, a board spot for our member 1034 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,600 members represented on the board, which 1035 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,080 is nice. We also have a number of 1036 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,000 training opportunities through WILEAG. 1037 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,720 We can connect with groups like Lexipol 1038 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:25,360 and other groups at our training site. 1039 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,200 More importantly though, we're with your police and fire protective 1040 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,640 services um 1041 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,840 through how we offer any critical 1042 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,000 incident support if there is an 1043 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,080 incident, how we offer peer support, 1044 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,840 training, as well as if there's media 1045 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,760 training or critical incident. So on the 1046 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,240 unlikely and hopeful never event that 1047 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:42,560 you have any type of major 1048 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,920 officer-involved shooting or a major 1049 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600 public safety crisis, SIMUWIG steps in 1050 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,200 with that media coach and tries to 1051 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,200 provide you with all that support. 1052 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,520 We also have dedicated service team, 1053 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,600 which is working directly with your team 1054 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,320 on site, pretty much one phone call 1055 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,120 away. I'll be brief in some of this, but 1056 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,360 that dedicated service team is what we'd 1057 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,000 like to think keeps us 1058 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,320 really connected with you as a village. 1059 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,520 So you have a number of 1060 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,920 employees working directly with you. And 1061 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,560 the goal is to be on site meeting your 1062 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,760 needs. So we have a safety and risk 1063 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,800 management specialist that works with 1064 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,560 you to provide all that safety training, 1065 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,040 risk management consultant. You might 1066 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,120 see them doing playground inspections or 1067 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,920 ergonomic assessments in your building. 1068 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,920 They're the ones doing your fume hood 1069 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,240 testing and all that. So that's about 1070 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:22,760 keeping your building safe. 1071 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,240 And you can see that they offer quite a 1072 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,160 few services. We also have an HR advisor 1073 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,280 that works directly with your leadership 1074 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,840 team to help work through members with 1075 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,320 your employees 1076 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,640 issues rather with your employees and 1077 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,720 make sure that if there's any needs that 1078 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,160 those are solved as well. 1079 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,880 And so our HR advisors are hopefully 1080 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,520 almost an extension of your HR team. 1081 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,360 They can be on site doing file, you 1082 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,520 know, file reviews. They can be helping 1083 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,160 you write policies, talking through 1084 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,680 difficult employee situations, anything 1085 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,320 like that. 1086 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,360 So I mentioned the leadership training 1087 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,360 before. We have a number of 1088 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,320 certification programs both virtually 1089 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,920 and online. I mentioned a few of the 1090 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,960 city staff in this village staff rather 1091 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,200 in this room have attended which is 1092 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,960 always great to see and so we're very 1093 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,760 proud of being able to prevent what we 1094 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,680 hope our claims or miscommunication or 1095 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,680 any issues with your employees in 1096 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,560 advance. So we spend a lot of time doing 1097 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,600 training 1098 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,040 and it's nice to connect with your 1099 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,680 leaders that way. 1100 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,200 So long and short of it is we are here 1101 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,720 hopefully working with you and for you. 1102 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:12,880 We try to connect through our member 1103 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,800 connection forums, roundtables, 1104 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,600 providing your staff an opportunity to 1105 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,120 connect. We have a number of important 1106 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,360 roundtables that we do like law 1107 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,960 enforcement, fire roundtable, our HR 1108 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,840 roundtable, park and rec roundtable and 1109 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,160 the goal is to connect and and stay with 1110 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,040 you, find out what you need. We do a lot 1111 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,400 of different programming including our 1112 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,720 newsletters and our semi-annual meetings 1113 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:33,480 really just trying to bring our 1114 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,600 membership together to share best 1115 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,440 practices. In the greater Dane County 1116 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,880 area, a number of your neighbors and 1117 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,800 kind of communities nearby are part of 1118 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,080 Civic including Stoughton, if we look 1119 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,680 around kind of go around Fitchburg, 1120 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,680 Verona, Monona, Sun Prairie, 1121 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,240 Waunakee, 1122 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:50,640 Middleton. We have a number of Madison 1123 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,920 area members and so it's nice when we 1124 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,960 get together and you can share those 1125 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,080 best practices and learn from each 1126 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,600 other. We're proud to be able to provide 1127 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,080 that space for you. 1128 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,360 My last slide for you tonight before we 1129 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,760 take any questions of course feel free 1130 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,160 please to ask if any that you have are 1131 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,600 the services that we offer to your 1132 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,360 village. You'll see that there's been a 1133 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,560 number of really successful programs 1134 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,240 here throughout the two and a half years 1135 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:10,960 that the village has been with Civic. 1136 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,120 Sorry. 1137 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,600 Let me go backwards. Just moving that 1138 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,560 out of the way. 1139 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:20,760 So we've done about 150 trainees and over 177 total 1140 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,400 hours of training. We've got on-site 1141 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,840 services ranging from those ergonomic 1142 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,800 assessments, salary assessor reports, 1143 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,040 your playground inspections, your sound 1144 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,080 level testing, your HR advisors work 1145 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,800 directly with your HR team for a total 1146 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,480 of 8 hours. And then you've had a number 1147 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,280 of employees already go through our 1148 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,800 leadership certification programs, which 1149 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,160 is pretty special. 1150 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,400 So, it's nice to work with a village 1151 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,760 that's well engaged. I would argue that 1152 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,560 your employees are doing a great job. 1153 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,800 Your village is doing a really nice job 1154 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,880 of leveraging Civic resources. We'd like 1155 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,000 to think that that partnership helps 1156 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,160 keep your claims down, keep your costs 1157 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,960 down, and help your employees improve. 1158 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,560 >> I do see one thing missing from there. 1159 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,600 So, each year we've taken full advantage 1160 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,200 of the 5,000 risk reimbursement. So, 1161 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,800 we've we've applied and and gotten 1162 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,880 $15,000 1163 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,480 in total over the last 3 years. 1164 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,440 >> Thank you, Kim, for calling that out. 1165 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,160 It's a good call. We also have a $2,500 1166 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,920 annual law enforcement reimbursement 1167 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,960 grant, which I believe you've used as 1168 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,070 well for a total of 7,500. Yeah. 1169 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,680 » Thank you. 1170 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:15,040 >> Yeah. 1171 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,680 >> I'm opening it up to 1172 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:22,510 board members for questions or comments. 1173 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,840 Go ahead, Casey. 1174 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,160 >> Um apologize, this is a slight curveball 1175 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:32,270 to start you with, but in 1176 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,560 Does Civic use any sort of AI, [snorts] 1177 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,080 and I'm not talking about, you know, 1178 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,720 like Copilot's kind of built into 1179 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,280 everything Microsoft Office has, but 1180 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,400 like in terms of generating trainings or 1181 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,200 reviewing claims or anything like that would be, you know, an in-house 1182 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,080 sort of thing. 1183 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,520 >> Yeah, it's a good question. I think like 1184 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,000 many organizations, Civic is trying to 1185 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,040 figure out how is it appropriate to use 1186 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,960 AI for that type of thing. The nature of 1187 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,400 a lot of our data, of course, is that 1188 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,600 it's it's 1189 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,720 fairly 1190 00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:59,160 sensitive, right? So, the last thing we 1191 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,920 want to do is get that out there, have 1192 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,640 any kind of leak. We use AI in a very 1193 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,600 minimal capacity. I won't be lying if I 1194 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,040 said we weren't exploring opportunities 1195 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,320 to try to use it more. 1196 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,440 But, what we've been trying to do is 1197 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,400 train our members on AI liability. We've 1198 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,000 got a lot of members that jumped feet 1199 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,320 first with AI, maybe didn't realize some 1200 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,320 of the risks. And so, we come in and do liability training, make sure they 1201 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,120 understand what they're getting 1202 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,000 themselves into. Most of what we use AI 1203 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,960 for is that you mentioned, probably 1204 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,280 search tools within Outlook, you know, 1205 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,160 building images for PowerPoints, 1206 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,160 uh basic data analysis or certain like 1207 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,120 spreadsheet enhancements. That's 1208 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,360 probably about the most of it. We 1209 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,320 haven't moved to any type of AI agent or 1210 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,360 any type of deep data projects with AI 1211 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,760 or anything like that. But, it's a good 1212 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,440 question. 1213 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,120 >> Okay, thanks. 1214 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,670 >> Yeah, certainly. 1215 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,480 » Are there any services that are 1216 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,360 underutilized that you would like staff 1217 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,240 to 1218 00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:46,800 >> That's a good question. Well, thank you 1219 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,040 for that one. Uh you know, as someone 1220 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,120 who does a lot of the training, it would 1221 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,600 always be nice to see more people You 1222 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,040 guys I would say the village is doing a 1223 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,960 fine job. Uh we offer a number of 1224 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,880 different things that are available as 1225 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,120 needed. So, things like e-learning or 1226 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,960 streaming video are available. I would 1227 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:00,960 say those are the types of things we 1228 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,480 would tell any member they may be used 1229 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,800 more of. 1230 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,120 Um we naturally, as your insurance 1231 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,200 company, love the idea that employees 1232 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,720 are getting trained and hopefully making 1233 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:09,480 good decisions in advance. And so, I 1234 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,760 wouldn't suggest that you haven't done 1235 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,560 that. You have. I think the data shows 1236 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,000 your your employees have uh been well 1237 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,680 trained. But, the hope, of course, is 1238 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,880 that they could always do more, right? 1239 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,720 That's something I'd always tell our 1240 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,760 members, like, feel free to explore more 1241 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,480 of those programs and and attend more of 1242 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,160 what we're doing. We like to offer uh 1243 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,800 what we hope is like a good enriching 1244 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,520 webinar every month. We bring in outside 1245 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,400 speakers or in-house experts to talk 1246 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,160 about evolving issues. 1247 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,400 Um and and that's one of those things 1248 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,640 that we would uh we would always 1249 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,240 encourage more of. 1250 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:34,923 Yeah. 1251 00:41:34,923 --> 00:41:35,480 >> [clears throat] 1252 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,480 >> Thank you for asking. 1253 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,200 >> We do have an employee communications 1254 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,000 newsletter that goes out every month 1255 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,920 that highlights many of your trainings 1256 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,840 for the employees. 1257 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,310 >> Thank you. 1258 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,840 » Paula, back to cybersecurity. Um are we 1259 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,120 actively using their 1260 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,040 system for this? 1261 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,680 >> Um a combination. So, 1262 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,240 All right. We primarily utilize the 1263 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,960 tools that Johnson Block has. Um 1264 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,600 primarily because they do both do the 1265 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,040 same thing. 1266 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,560 And what we do on the Johnson Block side 1267 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,160 will get us an extra million dollars of 1268 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,240 cyber coverage. Um so, it's kind of 1269 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,440 accumulating as much coverage as as 1270 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,200 possible. Um, 1271 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,680 so what where is helpful is like from a 1272 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,760 policy creation perspective, we've 1273 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,160 tapped into them. Like we're currently 1274 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,600 kind of 1275 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160 in progress the AI policy and things to 1276 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,360 protect village data. Um, so very 1277 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,000 mindful on, you know, data segregation 1278 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,800 and things that we can do to 1279 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,960 protect the villages' data. 1280 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:36,640 Um, 1281 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,280 they also have 1282 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,280 um, 1283 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,240 you have a couple things. Do you have 1284 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:45,920 the the the Kindle tool? Is that that's the um, that's the tool that we 1285 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,720 aren't taking advantage of currently um, 1286 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:50,920 because it's duplicative of what is 1287 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,600 currently being done. 1288 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,280 >> Thank you. And then another 1289 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,680 cybersecurity question. Um, are you 1290 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,480 doing anything kind of proactively in 1291 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,240 terms of um, 1292 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,880 like utility systems? We, you know, we 1293 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,840 saw the cyberattacks and and water 1294 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,120 systems in Minnesota. Are you doing 1295 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,640 anything to address that specifically? 1296 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,240 >> Yeah, that's a great question. So beyond 1297 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:14,600 what Cameron mentioned, which was that 1298 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,120 third-party site scanning, all that uh, 1299 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,400 the carrier's Tokyo Marine, but the 1300 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,640 carrier will work with us to provide all 1301 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,720 that training and the fishing training 1302 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:21,680 all the things you can do in advance if 1303 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,080 you wish. Uh, just on Friday we we sent 1304 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,760 out a message to our entire membership. 1305 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,160 Our team and I was putting that together 1306 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,080 about 5:00 on Friday saying, "Hey, we 1307 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,840 saw a rash of attacks across the country 1308 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,000 including Minnesota." I'm sure many of 1309 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,400 you are aware of that. And so we sent 1310 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,720 that out to our membership to try to 1311 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:35,760 make them aware of those types of 1312 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,200 programs. The other thing that we're 1313 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,760 doing that we think uh, kind of an 1314 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,240 example of what we talked about before. 1315 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:41,200 Not only are we putting out model 1316 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,760 policies and training for you, but we're 1317 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,280 also putting together group like the IT 1318 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,880 round table. So one of the things that 1319 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,400 we do is bring our membership together 1320 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,080 on a monthly basis talking to each other 1321 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,880 about what are some of those IT best 1322 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,520 practices, connect with those state 1323 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,920 agencies, provide those training 1324 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,840 programs and support. Uh, that's part of 1325 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,320 where Kind came from and some good ideas 1326 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,000 from our members. And so those round 1327 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,880 tables are often a great opportunity for 1328 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,200 IT leaders to speak. Whether you use it 1329 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,480 in-house or a third-party for that IT 1330 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,080 contracting, we always think it's a good 1331 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,320 idea to be aware of what your IT is 1332 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,680 doing, have a good honest faith check on 1333 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,960 them, make sure that you're you're 1334 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,440 protected. And so that's what we try to 1335 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,600 do with our members. So yeah, as much as 1336 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,280 we can in advance we try to. It's always 1337 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,520 a lot easier to prevent them than deal 1338 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,640 with them afterwards. 1339 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,320 Yeah. 1340 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,080 >> So on the utility IT side, um because 1341 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,400 the vast majority of our SCADA stuff is 1342 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,040 um 1343 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,320 LWA Allen is kind of the contractor that 1344 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,200 works on it. Um so both Larry and myself 1345 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,240 get uh CISA notifications whenever 1346 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:35,440 there's any type of municipal 1347 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,320 infrastructure attack. Um 1348 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,320 the biggest I would say risk on the IT 1349 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,720 environment is aging infrastructure. 1350 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,920 Um so that's something where we've 1351 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,160 recommended a replacement often times a 1352 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,640 year or two before the absolute latest 1353 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,520 replacement is because a lot of it's 1354 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,840 exploiting uh technology especially with 1355 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,080 the way that AI can penetrate um 1356 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,320 dated systems. Um cuz it lacks the 1357 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,600 complexity, you know, it used to be 1358 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,360 eight characters, 16 characters, now 1359 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,640 characters aren't enough, so passkey and 1360 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,720 then passkey and password's not enough, 1361 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:08,680 so 1362 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,440 um 1363 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,440 you know, so just trying to stay on top 1364 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,440 of that. So when we're the board has done a really good 1365 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,960 job of making sure that we have an IT 1366 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,800 budget that's efficient to make sure 1367 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,720 that we're keeping up with that 1368 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:21,680 technology. Um 1369 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,480 there are um systems um that LWA Allen 1370 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,400 will let the utilities know 1371 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,240 that if they're up for 1372 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:29,880 um 1373 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,040 updates. 1374 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,400 Um I guess I would be curious, do you 1375 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,640 guys do any type of site anal- like 1376 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,040 on-site analysts for vulnerabilities? 1377 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,880 That would be something. 1378 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,560 >> It's a good question. I I don't know 1379 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,760 that we've had that question before. 1380 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,800 Um I would have to check with my IT 1381 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,760 team. I don't have the answer for you 1382 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,480 prepared on the camera, I'm sorry. 1383 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,400 >> Yeah, I think the the physical the 1384 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,200 physical IT risk would be something I'd 1385 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,480 be interested in. 1386 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,520 >> Okay. 1387 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,000 >> I Any other comments from board members 1388 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,160 who haven't spoken? 1389 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,120 >> Do you have another one? 1390 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,240 >> I have more questions. Um 1391 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,600 so are there in terms of like our 1392 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,840 premiums, are there additional actions 1393 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,200 that we could be taking 1394 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,160 um, to reduce our premiums? And then I 1395 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,760 think of like workers comp, are there 1396 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,640 additional things that we could be doing 1397 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,200 that we currently aren't with you um, to 1398 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,320 reduce those claims? 1399 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,440 >> Yeah, that's a wonderful question. I would say the first thing is a lot of 1400 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,480 the a lot of insurance so I'm sure most 1401 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,760 of you know this already. I don't mean 1402 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,600 to 1403 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,160 say anything you don't already know, but 1404 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,200 uh, you know, the workers compensation 1405 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,120 program is all regulated by the state. 1406 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,480 Every employer in the state of Wisconsin 1407 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,520 is following those same statutes. And so 1408 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:35,600 one of the things that we talk a lot 1409 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,360 about is our experience modification and 1410 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,040 how do we help keep your mod rate, so we 1411 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,840 call it mod rate, uh, lower so that you 1412 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,200 pay less insurance or you pay less 1413 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,880 premium for the same insurance. So one 1414 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,960 of the things that we'd recommend of 1415 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,920 course is that you have strong culture 1416 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,280 of safety, that you work together with 1417 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,000 your safety, you know, committee, that 1418 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,520 you work proactively to try to prevent 1419 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,720 those claims. That's all something that 1420 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:55,080 we do with our members. Um, other lines 1421 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,560 of insurance that are more mod kind of 1422 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,920 experience mod based would be like your 1423 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,840 driving, your auto physical. So when we 1424 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,760 have fewer claims, fewer crashes, fewer 1425 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,800 incidents, uh, then your village would 1426 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,480 see a a lower rate increase or hopefully 1427 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,640 no rate increase uh, year over year. And 1428 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,640 so so a lot of the insurance partnership 1429 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,560 and one of the things that we think 1430 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,400 makes this pool so special is it is the 1431 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,160 partnership. When we work together and 1432 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,120 bring those service teams on staff, when 1433 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,720 your staff is attending these programs, 1434 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:19,920 coming to our round table, sharing those 1435 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,240 best practices, 1436 00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:22,840 we're hoping, right, it leads to fewer 1437 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,920 claims. As officers or other drivers for 1438 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,120 instance are uh, you know, more aware 1439 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,360 and more senior and more trained then in 1440 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,320 theory we have few fewer issues. So I 1441 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,880 would say across the board, right, um, 1442 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,720 attending those programs and focusing on 1443 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:36,400 the kind of the culture that we build, 1444 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,800 that's a big part of what we hope to do 1445 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,800 and that prevents claims. Uh, in terms 1446 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,440 of the liability side, you know, between 1447 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,960 the statutory protections that the um, 1448 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,360 you know, the village has already, 1449 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,440 there's a number of things that you're 1450 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,560 kind of already protected from, um, but 1451 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,960 we try to keep a real steady rate 1452 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,600 increase, a nice low increase across our 1453 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,120 pool. That's always been our model. It's 1454 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,320 like a two or three percent increase 1455 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,280 annually is really our our goal when the business kind of support that. 1456 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,200 Um and so thankfully historically we 1457 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,320 haven't really had to raise rates very 1458 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,280 high in the liability space. Uh and that 1459 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,920 continues to be our model moving forward 1460 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,720 where 1461 00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:06,880 owned by municipalities. We know how 1462 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,200 important it is during budget season to 1463 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,600 keep rates stable so that you can 1464 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,520 project those costs into the next year. 1465 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,680 And so that's kind of what we try to 1466 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,520 focus on. So I would say the village is 1467 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,000 doing a good job, right? Our goal is to 1468 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,240 continue to be that partner for you and 1469 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:18,960 keep those rates low, but that proactive 1470 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,600 attitude is what keeps rates down. So 1471 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,840 that's great. 1472 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,160 >> And since you mentioned rates, um can 1473 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,840 you talk a little bit we're currently 1474 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,920 like in a $1,000 deductible per instance 1475 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,720 on auto. What 1476 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:32,120 um what could happen if we moved let's 1477 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,400 say to a $2,500 deductible and what that 1478 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,760 might do to some of our pricing and 1479 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:36,280 such? 1480 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,440 >> Sure, that's a great question. That's a 1481 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,640 question we encourage every one of our 1482 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,240 members to explore annually is what's 1483 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:42,160 your risk appetite. So naturally if you 1484 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,120 take on a little bit of a higher 1485 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,360 deductible or a higher level of 1486 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,600 self-insured retention, you pay less 1487 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,480 premium. But then of course if there is 1488 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,480 that accident or that then in theory 1489 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,000 that you you have more of that 1490 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,680 responsibility. So a lot of of our most 1491 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,360 of our members, especially of the size 1492 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,960 roughly the same size population kind of 1493 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,800 budget of Cottage Grove, is probably 1494 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,440 working within that $1,000 deductible 1495 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,400 with an auto. That's pretty standard. Um 1496 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,720 and so that's something that we would 1497 00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,840 encourage uh you know, Cameron or anyone 1498 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,680 from the finance team to work with our 1499 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,480 underwriter and our insurance to help 1500 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,120 you analyze those numbers. Some 1501 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,000 communities are are interested in maybe 1502 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,280 taking on a little bit more of that 1503 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,760 risk, self-insuring a little bit more 1504 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,160 um in the unlikely event that there is a 1505 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,560 claim maybe so that they can save some 1506 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,880 money on the premium. So I would say 1507 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,800 that analysis is a great question to ask 1508 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,360 and is one we encourage our members to 1509 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,560 talk to our team about every year. 1510 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,790 Mhm. 1511 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,350 » Any other questions or comments? 1512 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,800 Thank you for coming tonight. 1513 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,840 >> Thank you for having me. Appreciate it. 1514 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,760 >> Um so just so the board is aware, so um 1515 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,240 AMPEK is while we get our property 1516 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:48,360 insurance from them and it's kind of 1517 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,200 through Sevmic, um they are technically 1518 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,840 a separate provider. If the board's 1519 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,360 interested, um, we can also have MPIC 1520 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,000 come in and speak. Um, but currently we 1521 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,560 just have Sedgwick speaking kind of on 1522 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,160 behalf of insurance. So, we would just 1523 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,360 need direction to bring MPIC in if the 1524 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,950 board would be interested. 1525 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:13,270 » Is there interest from the board? 1526 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:20,390 I'm seeing shaking heads, no. Yeah. 1527 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,960 Where am I? 1528 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,880 All right. 1529 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,880 Uh, we already talked about traffic 1530 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,960 calming at CGS. 1531 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,840 Um, so we are on um, 7C, which is 1532 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,560 discuss the minimum parking mandates in 1533 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:37,560 the village code, which is Trustee Stoa, 1534 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,920 who's stepped out for the moment. 1535 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,870 Um, 1536 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,510 so we can uh, 1537 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,320 » JP, do you want to take it or motion to 1538 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,320 postpone? 1539 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,000 >> I think I hear I hear the door. 1540 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,520 >> Is he coming back? Okay. 1541 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,430 >> Chris, you're up. 1542 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,080 We're just saying. 1543 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,160 We have um, 7C, discuss the minimum 1544 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,720 parking mandates in the village code. 1545 00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:06,400 There's a um, 1546 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,720 a memo in the agenda and this is 1547 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:12,360 presented by Trustees Stoa and JP. 1548 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,680 >> Thank you. I love everybody waiting 1549 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,720 around for me to come back. That's 1550 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:17,720 not embarrassing at all. 1551 00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:18,880 Um, okay, I'm going to read from a 1552 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,040 prepared statement cuz this is uh, too 1553 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,160 important to me to just wing, so bear 1554 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,430 with me. 1555 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,680 So, this is the first in what I hope is 1556 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,200 going to be a series of code changes 1557 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,440 aimed at um, affordability. This one 1558 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,160 would eliminate government parking 1559 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,480 mandates in the village. Um, so let me 1560 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,600 start by first stating what this is not. 1561 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,760 It's not eliminating parking. It's not 1562 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,120 telling anyone that they have to 1563 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,480 decrease the amount of parking that they 1564 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,040 already have. 1565 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,480 It's not telling anyone that they have 1566 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,160 to redevelop their lot. All this is, I 1567 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,120 think, is bringing the 1568 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,560 starting to bring the village code into 1569 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,000 the 21st century. Uh property owners go 1570 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,560 through a lot of due diligence when 1571 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,960 developing their properties. They have a 1572 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,440 business model or a home building plan 1573 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,960 that they go over extensively when they 1574 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,840 are getting ready to build. 1575 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:04,960 They're well aware of the costs of the 1576 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,200 projects and the parameters they need to 1577 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,400 meet in order to make their business, 1578 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,000 home, or property successful. The 1579 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,200 Village of Cottage Grove should not 1580 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,800 undermine their efforts by forcing them 1581 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,600 to build more park- parking spots than 1582 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,521 they might deem necessary. 1583 00:52:15,521 --> 00:52:16,120 >> [sighs and gasps] 1584 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,640 >> Forced minimum parking mandates mean 1585 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,240 that a business may have to either buy 1586 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:21,200 more land or shrink the size of their 1587 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,880 planned development to meet an arbitrary 1588 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,880 stall requirement. This can cost a lot 1589 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,880 more money either in upfront costs or in 1590 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,400 reduced income due to a smaller business 1591 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,080 building footprint. 1592 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,760 Uh the village should let property 1593 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,280 owners decide for themselves how much 1594 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,400 parking they need to help their 1595 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,440 businesses survive. 1596 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,000 Uh parking affects every- a lot of 1597 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,440 everyday life. It determines the size, 1598 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,840 shape, and cost of new buildings, the 1599 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,840 fate of old ones, patterns of traffic, 1600 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,040 viability of transit, life of our public 1601 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,600 space, character of neighborhoods, and 1602 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,000 affects the budget as well. 1603 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,840 There's no denying the need for parking 1604 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,080 space, especially in a place like 1605 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,160 Cottage Grove, which is heavily 1606 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,880 car-dependent. 1607 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,120 But we have to examine what too much 1608 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,040 parking caused by parking mandates can 1609 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,960 lead to. You know, parking is never 1610 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,640 free. Too much can increase the cost of 1611 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,120 a building development, which we all pay 1612 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,480 for, whether that's through increased 1613 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,480 rents or mortgages or higher costs of 1614 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,040 goods so that business owners can pay 1615 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,440 their rents. 1616 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,800 that may be higher due to 1617 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,320 unnecessary parking requirement. Those 1618 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,800 costs are then passed on to consumers. 1619 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,080 It can lead to the consumption of 1620 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,040 valuable land by impervious surfaces, 1621 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,520 which it also can lead to more runoff, 1622 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,040 more pollution, and heat island effects. 1623 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,800 It leads to sprawl, forcing more land to 1624 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,600 be used for asphalt instead of homes, 1625 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,920 businesses, or nature, which means to 1626 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,470 meet demand for additional 1627 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,560 homes and businesses, uh um additional 1628 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,200 farm land's going to um need to be 1629 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,440 developed if if that's the way they're 1630 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,440 going. It can stifle small business 1631 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,800 growth. It's It's hard enough to start a 1632 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,680 small business, harder still if you have 1633 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,040 to buy more land or asphalt than you 1634 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,320 need because of government mandates. 1635 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,000 It can stifle not only new business 1636 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,280 development, but also business or 1637 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,040 residential infill. 1638 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,840 If a business in a building goes under 1639 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,040 and another business that might be a 1640 00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,560 different use of the building wants to 1641 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,200 locate there, there could be additional 1642 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,640 parking spots that are required that 1643 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,440 they might not be able to afford. Or if 1644 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,640 a home wants to evolve or simply 1645 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,280 renovate to be a little larger, they 1646 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,200 might need to add more parking spaces 1647 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,840 because of its size. 1648 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,360 Uh simply put, we should entrust 1649 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:13,760 property owners to evaluate how much 1650 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,440 parking they need, not mandate it based 1651 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,880 on nothing but gut feelings. 1652 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,240 Letting property owners decide for 1653 00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:20,520 themselves might not change how they 1654 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,640 operate, but it could. And letting 1655 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,240 people build smaller, more affordable 1656 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:25,600 development saves homeowners and 1657 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,000 businesses and business owners money, 1658 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,400 helps preserve farmland, and prevents 1659 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,880 sprawl, lessens runoff and pollution. 1660 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,000 Getting rid of parking mandates is a 1661 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,080 free market decision that is 1662 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,440 pro-business, pro-affordability, 1663 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,920 pro-infill, pro-sustainability, and 1664 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,360 pro-environment. 1665 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,350 Thank you. 1666 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,920 » JP, since you 1667 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,680 are the second on this, do you have 1668 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,760 anything you'd like to add before 1669 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,040 opening it for discussion? 1670 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,520 >> No, and again, I think Chris covered it 1671 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,320 very 1672 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,720 or I say not really, but um Chris really 1673 00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:56,640 did a good summary in there. Um the one 1674 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,600 thing I'll just kind of expand is um 1675 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,760 as he mentioned, this is not a new 1676 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,120 concept. This is actually happening 1677 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,880 across the nation and many 1678 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,400 municipalities, cities, villages, even 1679 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,600 towns 1680 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,680 um have been making this transition and 1681 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,160 there's plenty of instances that show 1682 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,160 that it's been a positive change. There 1683 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,160 hasn't been uh any negative consequences 1684 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,760 to that. 1685 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,640 And the other thing is is still we still 1686 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,240 have the ability to do dilige- do 1687 00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:27,120 diligence, ask the questions, confirm 1688 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,040 with developers whether they have the 1689 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,520 appropriate um parking based on their 1690 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,200 needs in there. So, we can still have 1691 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,640 that conversation, but it's is longer 1692 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,120 mandated in there that they have to have 1693 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:43,830 XYZ based on square footage, etc., etc. 1694 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,400 » Open it up to the rest of the board for 1695 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,230 discussion. 1696 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,080 Aaron? 1697 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,280 >> Uh yeah, just had a couple thoughts. Um 1698 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,440 I I like it. I think Chris did a great 1699 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,560 job putting this together. 1700 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,440 Um 1701 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,040 couple things just to think about if we 1702 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,080 choose to go through the process here. 1703 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,630 Um 1704 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,240 I guess my only concern about leaving it 1705 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:09,840 up to the developer is that with 1706 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,280 construction costs being so high, this 1707 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,440 could be a place where they cut corners 1708 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,480 and 1709 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,000 um could go below what they actually 1710 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,080 need. 1711 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,560 Um 1712 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,440 you know, another way to do this would 1713 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,680 be to 1714 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,160 have a minimum but write into the 1715 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,320 ordinance that the plan commission and 1716 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,120 board can allow them to go under it if 1717 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,160 they 1718 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,960 can kind of make a case to us that 1719 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,840 they don't need what's in the ordinance. 1720 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,760 Um 1721 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,120 but I know other places just get rid of 1722 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,720 it all together. So, it's I think 1723 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:37,480 something we can look at both options 1724 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,960 moving forward. 1725 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,680 Um 1726 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:41,680 and I guess the other thing just to keep 1727 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,280 in mind, you know, parking lots are also 1728 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,760 often a way for emergency vehicles to 1729 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,400 get close to the building and if parking 1730 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,640 lots get smaller, we just want to make 1731 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,280 sure we're still 1732 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,440 you know, 1733 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,520 allowing the vehicles to navigate 1734 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,790 through them properly. So. 1735 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:57,160 » Chris? 1736 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,360 >> Yeah, I I mean I think we're still going 1737 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,200 to have to 1738 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,160 they'll still have to follow the fire 1739 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,759 code. And 1740 00:57:01,759 --> 00:57:01,960 >> [clears throat] 1741 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,910 >> as far as cutting corners, I think 1742 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:07,654 I 1743 00:57:07,654 --> 00:57:08,000 >> [clears throat] 1744 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,320 >> I mean I I think they're going to do 1745 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,760 what they need to do in order to attract 1746 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,880 the customers they need to have a 1747 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,400 successful business. I think if they try 1748 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,160 to cut corners and they don't build 1749 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,520 enough, they're 1750 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,470 going to fail. 1751 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,600 So, I mean in the end I I I trust that I 1752 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,440 trust that businesses are going to 1753 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,480 do what they need to do to succeed in 1754 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,190 the village. 1755 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,640 » Heidi? 1756 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,920 I guess I'd like to see this be sent 1757 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,520 over to plan commission and maybe look 1758 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,000 at some case studies and 1759 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,160 uh comparisons and make a recommendation 1760 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,800 back back up to us if um you know, 1761 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,720 eliminating altogether or 1762 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,640 Garen, another idea, minimum but allow 1763 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,160 to go under with approval or 1764 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,520 I guess I'd you know, to kind of toss 1765 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,400 this back to committee level to make a 1766 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,880 recommendation. 1767 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,520 >> I think it for sure needs to go to plan 1768 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,280 commission. Um 1769 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,640 my concern about still having a minimum 1770 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,400 but letting them 1771 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,590 go under is 1772 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,280 I think it's a half measure and I think 1773 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,160 it still leaves a door open to 1774 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,040 weaponization. 1775 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,520 Um 1776 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,040 by trying to defeat a development that 1777 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,120 maybe you don't like, you can use 1778 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,720 parking as a 1779 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,680 uh as a sort of cudgel to try to 1780 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,040 kill that. 1781 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,560 Um 1782 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,200 yeah. Again again, it's just 1783 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,640 my preferred outcome would be parking 1784 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,920 maximums, but I'm trying to come to a middle ground here. 1785 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,040 Um 1786 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,920 and yeah, this in the end this is this 1787 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,840 is 1788 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,840 it's a it's a it's a it's free market, 1789 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,480 right? 1790 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,120 >> Paula, I have a question on the flip 1791 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,880 side of that. So, what if if we take 1792 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,000 this away, um take this away and and and 1793 00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,840 a developer comes and it's pretty clear 1794 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,680 that we don't 1795 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,440 that they don't have enough, right? Um 1796 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:12,000 what is our recourse if if we remove this requirement? 1797 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,600 >> Why does there need to be a recourse? 1798 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,920 >> So, okay, so if we take the minimum 1799 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,600 parking requirements [snorts] away and a 1800 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,160 developer comes forth to the plan 1801 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,000 commission and it's clear that they 1802 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,560 don't have enough. 1803 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,360 What I mean, what do we have in terms of 1804 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,160 remedy in that if we remove this 1805 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,640 provision. 1806 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,480 >> What 1807 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,120 I I I mean I guess I don't know how 1808 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,040 we'll know if it's enough. Again, that's 1809 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,600 just sort of an arbitrary 1810 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,440 gut feeling saying that I don't think 1811 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,880 this is enough. 1812 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,520 I think we should trust businesses to to 1813 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,280 do what's right for their 1814 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,680 business. 1815 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,120 I mean I guess a worst case scenario is 1816 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,120 someone 1817 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,520 says, "I don't need any parking. We're 1818 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:52,640 just going to have street parking." And 1819 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,760 then it's a place where we don't want 1820 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,840 people parking on the street. 1821 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,560 >> Um 1822 00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,720 >> But then we've kind of given our away 1823 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,880 our opportunity to say no, you can't do 1824 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,320 that, right? I mean 1825 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,840 >> Yeah, I guess that was kind of my 1826 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,560 concern and we just I want some kind of 1827 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,200 safeguard against that, however we 1828 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,440 choose to do it. 1829 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,120 >> I mean 1830 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,680 we have on-street parking 1831 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,040 >> right? 1832 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,520 >> Like like taking this to the extreme, we 1833 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,880 have on-street parking. We have really 1834 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:18,960 wide roads. Those roads are not 1835 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,400 aesthetic, they're functional, right? So 1836 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,920 they should 1837 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,000 in theory be able to park on those 1838 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,240 roads. 1839 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,760 I don't think we're going to get another 1840 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,720 authentic that's like, "I don't want 1841 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,280 parking." I don't think that'll happen 1842 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,760 because they won't get anybody. People 1843 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,720 like to park at their house, right? Or 1844 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:34,920 their residence. I don't think they're 1845 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,760 going to not have that there. You might 1846 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,480 get one or two room apartment may Excuse 1847 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,720 me. 1848 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,480 Maybe that is thinking about it, but 1849 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,200 again, if that's probably going to be on 1850 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,320 a residential street that can handle it 1851 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,480 with 1852 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:50,280 street parking. 1853 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,960 >> And Casey had his hand up. 1854 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,520 >> Yeah. So, um this is sort of for Rick 1855 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,280 and or Aaron. I mean, so yeah, say 1856 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,120 there's some extreme example, you know, 1857 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,160 a very large business says we're going 1858 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,720 to have no parking whatsoever. Um I 1859 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,320 imagine we could still impose conditions 1860 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,280 on their their plan developer agreement, 1861 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,480 something at level, even though we don't 1862 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,200 have a mandatory minimum, we could say 1863 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,320 we could impose that even without this. 1864 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,760 Rick, you're shaking your head at me. 1865 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:17,520 >> I 1866 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,480 It would depend [clears throat] on where 1867 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,840 you're at at the stage. So, if let's say 1868 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,320 somebody has a 1869 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,360 parcel that's zoned just like rural 1870 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,960 holding, and they come and they 1871 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,320 have a proposal to rezone it, 1872 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,720 at that point, we could, you know, 1873 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,000 potentially look at uh imposing a 1874 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,400 requirement as part of like the rezoning 1875 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:36,640 condition. 1876 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,840 But if the parcel's already like zoned 1877 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,640 for their 1878 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,880 use, 1879 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,160 um and all they need is a site plan, 1880 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,560 really, we can only apply the ordinance 1881 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,640 standards that are applicable when they 1882 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,320 apply for their site plan. So, there's 1883 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,000 going to be less If you don't have a 1884 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,440 parking requirement, you can't impose a 1885 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,280 parking requirement as part of the site 1886 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:55,960 plan. 1887 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,790 >> I see. Okay. 1888 01:01:58,800 --> 01:01:59,960 » I had a couple other questions for 1889 01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:02,640 Chris. So, do you have an example of 1890 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,280 another municipality in Dane County 1891 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,960 that's implemented this? 1892 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,240 >> Fitchburg. 1893 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,960 >> And it was it recent? 1894 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,600 >> 2025, I think. 1895 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,000 >> So, do we have any sort of feedback or 1896 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,080 data that can be shared in terms of how 1897 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,280 that's gone? 1898 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,120 >> I don't have it on me. I'm sure we could 1899 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,440 ask. I mean, at at this point, it's 1900 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,800 probably 2025, and what there might not 1901 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,200 be enough data to be worth anything, but 1902 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,320 >> Yeah. I I was just kind of doing some 1903 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,000 checking. Like, Sun Prairie, Waunakee, 1904 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,240 DeForest, Madison all have those minimum 1905 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,960 requirements, and so I just kind of 1906 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,320 wanted to kind of get more information 1907 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,120 about that. Um 1908 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,400 >> I hear a lot that we don't want to be 1909 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,640 Sun Prairie, so. 1910 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:42,680 >> Um 1911 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,920 So, the other question is perhaps we put 1912 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,120 this in the comp plan survey. You know, 1913 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,360 I know you're talking about modernizing 1914 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,200 different things with code before we get 1915 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,200 to the comp plan, but I think 1916 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,240 personally, I think the the feedback 1917 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,200 from the public should inform our code 1918 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,600 decision-making and such. So, maybe if 1919 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,400 we put it in the comp plan survey and 1920 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,480 get some feedback on it, that would also 1921 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,790 help us. 1922 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,950 » My thought is we got feedback in April. 1923 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,600 » Not on this particular issue. 1924 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,440 >> We had three people elected in April. 1925 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,080 >> On this issue? I don't remember ever 1926 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,120 hearing about this issue. 1927 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,560 >> talked about it, but that's what the 1928 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,240 trustee model of 1929 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,840 representation is that they trust you to 1930 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:27,760 represent them. 1931 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,320 >> No, and I get that. I'm just saying 1932 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,600 we're having a comp plan and we're doing 1933 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,040 a survey to the public and hopefully we 1934 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,320 get oversight on that survey in terms of 1935 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,040 a governing body. 1936 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,440 Um and it, you know, I think that's an 1937 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,000 opportunity. I guess I have some 1938 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,080 concerns about this. Um you know, I 1939 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,600 think if there's spillover into 1940 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,920 neighborhoods, um the problem is that a 1941 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,720 future correction could be costly or it 1942 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,960 might not even be possible. I think that 1943 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,640 um 1944 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,920 we don't have mass transit. So, if I 1945 01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:02,840 look at a municipality that has mass 1946 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,800 transit, this makes a lot more sense, 1947 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,800 right? That we could reduce parking lot 1948 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,120 sizes and such, but you even said 1949 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,520 Cottage Grove is car heavy. So, that's a 1950 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,160 concern of mine. 1951 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,040 Um you know, the different land uses 1952 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,880 have different needs, so we kind of take 1953 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,560 that piece out of it. Um and again, I 1954 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,560 think we should be getting feedback um 1955 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,240 from the community through the comp plan 1956 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,560 process before we make code changes is 1957 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,840 my opinion. 1958 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,000 >> I mean, there is a public hearing 1959 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,040 requirement for code changes, so that's 1960 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,520 part of it. Um and like like I said, 1961 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,200 excuse me. 1962 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,840 Cottage Grove is car heavy and I think 1963 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,160 developers understand that and they're 1964 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,640 not going to just 1965 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,480 skirt any parking. So, I think they take 1966 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,840 that into account when they 1967 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,640 develop here. 1968 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,920 >> Do you think the next steps are 1969 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,440 having staff direct language by having a 1970 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,800 conversation at plan commission? We're 1971 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,680 not going to be able to get this on 1972 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,280 with documents on the agenda for plan 1973 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,680 commission next week, but if we could 1974 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,920 have the first discussion at plan 1975 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,440 commission just as a discuss, 1976 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,840 um and then if there was draft language 1977 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,080 to take a look at at a future meeting. 1978 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,160 Um I know there has to be a public 1979 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,480 hearing at plan commission and then it 1980 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,240 would would come back to the board. 1981 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:13,520 >> Yeah. 1982 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,560 >> kind of the path that you have here? 1983 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,040 >> Yeah, that's kind of what I was hoping 1984 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:17,520 for. 1985 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,840 >> Okay. 1986 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:19,880 Casey. 1987 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,520 >> Um I would just add on to that. I mean 1988 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,880 um I've you know done a lot of research 1989 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,240 on this as well. You know looking at 1990 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,920 like the U W annex and then other 1991 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,360 municipal white papers and things like 1992 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,120 that. Um but I imagine that I would hope 1993 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,000 that we could uh include as part of the 1994 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,880 staff direction to have some of that 1995 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,720 research take a look at you know where 1996 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,920 this has been done, what the results 1997 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,200 have been. You know JP you alluded to 1998 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,800 some of this and we could have that at 1999 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,760 Plan Commission and then in turn back to 2000 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,160 the board. Um 2001 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,520 I don't know if that would be part of 2002 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,760 whatever motion we'd be putting on now, 2003 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,280 but that's my suggestion. 2004 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,240 >> If there's no more discussion on the 2005 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,280 item, we could move on to the consider 2006 01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,800 staff direction on the parking minimum 2007 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,560 mandates. 2008 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,120 I'm seeing nodding heads. 2009 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,440 Okay. 2010 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:14,670 So I'd entertain a motion. 2011 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,840 » Um um make the motion to direct staff to 2012 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,680 do the research draft potential 2013 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,120 languages to kind of take those next 2014 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,800 steps um regarding removing the minimum 2015 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,440 parking requirements in village code and 2016 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,520 place it as a discussion item at an 2017 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:32,080 uh 2018 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:37,190 upcoming plan commission agenda. 2019 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:38,520 » I'll second. 2020 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,120 >> Motion by JP seconded by Erlandson. 2021 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,080 First off, is that clear to staff? 2022 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:46,920 >> Yeah, I mean we can have it on the 2023 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,760 agenda next week if we can just use your 2024 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,680 memo. 2025 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:55,800 >> Yeah, that's fine. It just they might if if you're able to get any research on 2026 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,800 Yeah. Other municipalities well then 2027 01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:58,320 yeah. 2028 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,110 >> Okay. 2029 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,560 All right, any other debate on the 2030 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,280 motion? 2031 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,560 Otherwise, all those in favor? 2032 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:08,280 Aye. 2033 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:13,590 >> Opposed? Nay. Abstain? 2034 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,280 Motion carries. 2035 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,800 Did you get all votes? 2036 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,360 >> I didn't hear the 2037 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:19,360 nays. 2038 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,040 >> Yes. 2039 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,400 >> Thank you. 2040 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,910 >> All right. 2041 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,920 So, we'll see you that item on plan 2042 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,800 commission for the next for the next 2043 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,960 agenda which is next Wednesday. 2044 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,480 All right. We have 2045 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,200 moving on to 7D discuss direction to 2046 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,360 draft emergency services building 2047 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,520 service dog policy. I wrote a memo 2048 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,440 that's in the agenda. 2049 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,120 Basically, we have a collaborative draft 2050 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,640 from May 2051 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,840 that our HR and some staff have looked 2052 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,800 at. We have not run 2053 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,520 this draft past legal. So, I think the 2054 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,040 direction that I'm looking forward 2055 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,120 tonight is to 2056 01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:58,960 um 2057 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,280 take the current draft but then allow 2058 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,440 employment law to kind of finalize a 2059 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:05,760 professional 2060 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,720 emergency services building policy for a 2061 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,480 service dog and then bring that back to 2062 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:10,760 the board for discussion and 2063 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:16,390 consideration at a future meeting. 2064 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,640 » Can you clarify for me what draft you're 2065 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:19,680 talking about cuz I know there's a 2066 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:20,960 couple floating out there. 2067 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,520 >> Sure. So, there was 2068 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,160 a draft from May that 2069 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,600 both 2070 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,520 chiefs had sat down with but also had 2071 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,827 worked with our um 2072 01:08:30,827 --> 01:08:31,400 >> [clears throat] 2073 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,600 >> um HR with Inga and some staff. Um that 2074 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,067 was um 2075 01:08:36,067 --> 01:08:36,759 >> [clears throat] 2076 01:08:36,759 --> 01:08:38,839 >> edited I think through fire commission 2077 01:08:38,839 --> 01:08:40,759 which is on a separate is another agenda 2078 01:08:40,759 --> 01:08:43,927 item tonight. Um and we can give 2079 01:08:43,927 --> 01:08:44,880 [snorts] 2080 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,720 all three drafts to our labor attorney 2081 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,120 but it needs to go through a labor 2082 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,560 attorney in order to write um a 2083 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,759 village uh policy. 2084 01:08:56,759 --> 01:09:00,240 >> So, is Okay. So, this is not the ESB 2085 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,160 policy. This is a village policy? 2086 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,759 >> This is a ESB policy building policy, 2087 01:09:04,759 --> 01:09:07,160 but it's written with the village in 2088 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,000 mind since that's our entity. And I can 2089 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:14,789 let Rick um weigh in on that as well. 2090 01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:16,560 » Yeah, so 2091 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,680 basically the the ESB, right? And I'm 2092 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:20,720 not 2093 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,359 qualified to review review the policy to 2094 01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:28,279 sort of go to labor person, but the ESB is jointly owned by the village 2095 01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:29,520 and town. 2096 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,120 Um I guess we have 2097 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:35,319 two tenants, right? Which would be the fire district or the fire uh 2098 01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:37,480 department and the EMS. 2099 01:09:37,480 --> 01:09:40,120 So, basically if we were to come up with 2100 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,600 a policy that would apply to the ESB 2101 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,839 building, it would need to be approved 2102 01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:47,160 by the village and town. So, 2103 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,759 each entity can have its own policy that 2104 01:09:48,759 --> 01:09:51,680 it wants, right? I mean, EMS could have 2105 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,000 its own policy that applies just for 2106 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,960 EMS, fire department could have its own 2107 01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,880 that just applies to fire department, 2108 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,800 but I guess the goal would be to have uh 2109 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,160 a policy that would be, you know, 2110 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,440 agreeable for the town and all parties 2111 01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:06,080 involved. It just has sort of like a 2112 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,160 collaborative policy that 2113 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:08,760 um 2114 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,320 governs the whole building. 2115 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,790 >> And CSIA made aware of this. 2116 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,040 » So, um the the fire department's 2117 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,960 attorney took that original draft from 2118 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,000 me and kind of beefed it up quite a bit 2119 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,520 in terms of including, you know, ADA 2120 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,840 process, written accommodation requests, 2121 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,760 um that sort of thing. So, it feels like 2122 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,960 he's done a lot of that work already for 2123 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,120 us 2124 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:34,920 um 2125 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,080 at the fire department's expense, right? 2126 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,000 So, I 2127 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,880 is he is our labor attorney just going 2128 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,960 to kind of look that over and go yes or 2129 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,920 no, or is this something different, or 2130 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,120 do we not agree with those 2131 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,720 recommendations from the fire attorney? 2132 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,880 >> Uh I don't know how like 2133 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,160 how the a attorney would look at it, 2134 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,600 right? I mean, it's 2135 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,720 not a contract, but it you know, there 2136 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,360 could be differing opinions on best ways 2137 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,560 to handle it or you know, they're 2138 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:04,520 looking at it through the lens of the 2139 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,120 village as the owner of the building, 2140 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,760 right? So, who knows what the labor 2141 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,280 attorney might view 2142 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,040 as important for the policy to have or 2143 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,200 things that may or may not be included, 2144 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,840 but you know, I can't speak to that. 2145 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,320 That's sort of outside my wheelhouse. 2146 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,720 >> And is the idea that whatever policy is 2147 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,200 instituted for this also is for all 2148 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,840 village buildings then as well? Like 2149 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,040 every 2150 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,520 Is this 2151 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,560 got implications beyond just ESB, I 2152 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:34,030 guess? 2153 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,600 » Uh so, I guess the agenda item tonight 2154 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,360 would just be for ESB. I 2155 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,760 don't know if the village already has a 2156 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,360 policy in place regarding service 2157 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,600 animals, but um just given the unique 2158 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:45,840 nature of this building that it's a 2159 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,360 joint jurisdictional building, 2160 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,000 um it may be you know, it may be that 2161 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,920 the policy that they've proposed is 2162 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,440 perfectly fine, uh but we don't know 2163 01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:57,600 unless the village's labor attorney has 2164 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:03,070 looked at it. 2165 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:07,040 » Any other discussion on the drafting 2166 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,400 request to draft the service dog policy 2167 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,760 for ESB? 2168 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,400 >> I I feel [clears throat] like we spent a 2169 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,000 lot of time on this at JFC. I know that 2170 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:16,640 um 2171 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,320 their attorney tried to um 2172 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,400 connect at that meeting, 2173 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,360 um but 2174 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,280 to add to what Paula said, I I their 2175 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,480 attorney did put a great deal of thought 2176 01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:31,320 and consideration 2177 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,320 into this, which is 2178 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:34,040 um 2179 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,560 really following the ADA 2180 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,480 guidelines, which had a large component. 2181 01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:42,680 So, um 2182 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,360 I have 2183 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,760 I'm interested in, you know, where where 2184 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,900 are we going to go if the 2185 01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:49,080 >> [clears throat] 2186 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:56,510 >> labor attorney I I feel like we're all not on the same page. 2187 01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:57,720 » Casey. 2188 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,120 >> Um 2189 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,400 I think that given that this is a very 2190 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,120 unique building that is jointly leased 2191 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:05,440 and 2192 01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:07,720 sorry, jointly owned and then also in 2193 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,280 turn jointly leased by two further 2194 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,200 separate entities. Um I think it is very 2195 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,200 important that we have a a labor 2196 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,080 attorney and specifically, you know, 2197 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,680 someone who's familiar with with ADA 2198 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,720 case law and so on that that drafts this 2199 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,720 and reviews this. Um I 2200 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,000 uh 2201 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,560 I watched the you know, the the fire 2202 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,200 commission meeting. I appreciate that 2203 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,120 the 2204 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,120 uh fire department attorney, you know, 2205 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,680 um put forth their draft and and put uh 2206 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,400 a lot of work into it, but they are 2207 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,080 the there are many many different types 2208 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,240 of law and and labor law and ADA is 2209 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,960 what's relevant here. 2210 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,160 They're attorneys for a fire department. 2211 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,480 They have 2212 01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:48,040 maybe some 2213 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,920 information in that, but it's not it's 2214 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,480 not their expertise. So, I think it's 2215 01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:53,480 most appropriate to have this done by a 2216 01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:56,160 labor attorney. So, in general I'm I'm 2217 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,760 in favor of this. 2218 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,640 >> Any other discussion? 2219 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,110 JP. 2220 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,600 » Irrespective of whatever policy kind of 2221 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,800 moves forward either way from a process 2222 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,400 standpoint, we are going to need a 2223 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,120 policy that is approved by the village 2224 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:14,680 board and can in conjunction with the 2225 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,680 town in order to be applicable to ESB. 2226 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,880 Um so, I feel like yes, I again I've 2227 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,200 said this in the joint fire commission. 2228 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,600 Um I really did appreciate um their 2229 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,520 labor in putting forth the draft. Um 2230 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:29,920 there are some questions I have about 2231 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,120 it. Just things that need to be 2232 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,960 clarified and I know further discussions 2233 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:37,200 happening there. Um but either way 2234 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:37,920 um 2235 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,160 we need to take the next step forward in 2236 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:41,960 having a policy brought forward that is 2237 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,480 approved by both the village and the 2238 01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:46,280 town so that it can be enacted um 2239 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,360 for ESB's specifically to 2240 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:50,400 um um 2241 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,640 I think 2242 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,680 just in case there is any points of 2243 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,360 conflict between the two entities that 2244 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,560 are currently occupy the building, 2245 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,160 having a process laid out so that 2246 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,360 everyone agrees a policy that over kind 2247 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,520 of helps oversee that um is fair across 2248 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,200 the board that follows ADA um is 2249 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,710 absolutely needed. 2250 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:12,760 » Heidi. 2251 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,360 >> Yeah, I would just add on that I think 2252 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,440 ESB policies and procedures, this uh 2253 01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:21,040 would definitely be one of those to to 2254 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,560 document. 2255 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,240 Like JP was saying, you know, if there's 2256 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,080 um how to handle those kind of 2257 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,600 interdepartmental. And so, there may be 2258 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,840 some additional policies or procedures 2259 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,680 that each entity within might feel is 2260 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,040 also applicable like just within their 2261 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,240 entity and then kind of bringing those 2262 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,600 together. So, it they all may be, you 2263 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,360 know, the same or similar, but there 2264 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,080 might be additional considerations as 2265 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,520 building owner versus employer. So, I 2266 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,280 think the best course is to have our 2267 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:51,920 labor attorney 2268 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:52,600 um 2269 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,280 work on this with specialty in ADA and 2270 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,640 um 2271 01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,080 and then 2272 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,600 if we can distribute that to all the the 2273 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,000 stakeholders in the facility um 2274 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,120 you know, draft so we can get 2275 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,040 any um 2276 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,200 concerns addressed um throughout the 2277 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,030 process. 2278 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,920 » Since you mentioned Steve Anders knows 2279 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,360 about this, is the town board also going 2280 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,000 to be doing 2281 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,280 running this by their legal counsel? 2282 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:24,720 >> He didn't respond. 2283 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,600 Okay. Because I'm 2284 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,640 thinking, I mean, ideally we we also 2285 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:29,960 need to have something that the town's 2286 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,120 going to agree to. Is it better to try 2287 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,400 to do this as a joint effort rather than 2288 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,160 us running it through, paying the full 2289 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,640 cost, and then them basically saying 2290 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,120 up or down 2291 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,080 um 2292 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,120 I would think this would be a joint 2293 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:49,150 venture and a joint cost. 2294 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,600 I I hate for us to Basically, we have a 2295 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,400 document that kind of does a lot of 2296 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,120 this. They could certainly take that 2297 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,600 July 27th draft from the fire department 2298 01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,640 as as a 2299 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,000 beginning a point, right, for the labor 2300 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,240 attorney. 2301 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:04,000 Um 2302 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,400 but at the end of the day, if the town 2303 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,360 doesn't agree, have we just 2304 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,390 thrown money away? 2305 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,080 » I mean, I think that protecting our 2306 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,200 village employees with service animals 2307 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,080 and there's public spaces there. 2308 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:20,760 Um 2309 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,600 there's EOC that can occur there. 2310 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,120 There's you know, other entities that 2311 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,800 are coming in there making sure at least 2312 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,320 from a village perspective that we have, 2313 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,400 you know, our bases covered is is 2314 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,360 important. Um this has also been going 2315 01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,400 on for 2316 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:35,920 like 5 months. 2317 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,280 And it needs to be wrapped up and we 2318 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,640 need to uh you know, 2319 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,120 move this forward and the way we can 2320 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,520 move this forward is by having our labor 2321 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,720 attorney 2322 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,680 take a look at, you know, take all three 2323 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,880 drafts and the information and work for 2324 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:57,350 us to make, you know, an actual policy. 2325 01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,240 Any other discussion? 2326 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,040 >> Is it Correct me I'm asking for um 2327 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,120 legal parameters, but the fire district, 2328 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,320 they also deal with ADA 2329 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,560 concerns regarding fire district. So, 2330 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,560 I kind of feel like maybe it is a 2331 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,360 duplication of services, but 2332 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,520 I I don't know. 2333 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,320 Is Rick, can you answer that? 2334 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,280 >> I I think basically it comes down to the 2335 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,640 village's comfort level of relying 2336 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,560 another attorney that doesn't represent 2337 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,840 you to draft something on your behalf, 2338 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,360 right? So, 2339 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,560 um if you want to have your own attorney 2340 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,520 review it to see that it is in the 2341 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,760 village's best interest, you know, 2342 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:39,480 that's what I'm always going to 2343 01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:41,000 recommend, but that's just because I'm 2344 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,840 attorney probably. But um 2345 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,200 that's basically the comfort level of 2346 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:47,400 the village board though, if they want 2347 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,400 to rely on the work of another lawyer 2348 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,400 that represents a different entity. 2349 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,080 >> I I kind of feel like we're asking that 2350 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,200 of 2351 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,560 the town, but you haven't had a 2352 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,680 conversation with Steve, so I kind of 2353 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,240 feel like we're almost at an impasse 2354 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,560 here. I mean 2355 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,640 I I I agree, this has gone on for a long 2356 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,240 time and this does need to be resolved, 2357 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,840 but it feels like there's a lot of back 2358 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,160 and forth and I'm wondering how we can 2359 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,080 bring it together and work together. I 2360 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,840 know that the fire chief and the EMS 2361 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,960 chief have worked 2362 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,600 put a lot of time and effort into 2363 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:27,710 working together to resolve this. 2364 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,800 » Any other discussion on the item? 2365 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,480 Otherwise, we can move on to consider 2366 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:34,280 direction to draft emergency services 2367 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:39,350 building dog service dog policy. 2368 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,560 » I'd make the motion to send the 2369 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:45,680 emergency services building uh facility 2370 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,160 service dog policy to 2371 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,920 attorney specializing in 2372 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,320 labor and ADA 2373 01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:56,720 um 2374 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,560 sending the 2375 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:03,670 all previous drafts of the policy 2376 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:09,470 along in the package to the attorney. 2377 01:20:09,480 --> 01:20:12,030 » You have that? 2378 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:12,680 » I'll second. 2379 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:13,960 >> All right, motion by Murphy, second by 2380 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:15,800 Arlington. Any debate on the discussion 2381 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,200 or on the motion? 2382 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,440 Otherwise, I'll 2383 01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:22,080 Oh, I was just going to say, could we 2384 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,520 maybe either in part of the motion or 2385 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,600 the direction utilize the July 27th, 2386 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,600 which is the most comprehensive version 2387 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,480 as the starting point for that person to 2388 01:20:31,480 --> 01:20:33,360 review? 2389 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,000 >> I think it's important context to have 2390 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,920 the other versions that were worked on, 2391 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,000 too. So, I think the whole package of 2392 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,360 all versions should be sent, and they 2393 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,000 could see that, you know, they're dated 2394 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,120 the most recent, I guess, 2395 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,800 is the 2396 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,320 >> I'm just trying to 2397 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,040 reduce the legal bill, right, and work 2398 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,560 more efficiently. So, working off of one 2399 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,720 of the drafts, but 2400 01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,560 Yeah. Any other discussion? 2401 01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,160 >> Yeah, that's a good point. It's becoming 2402 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:07,710 like a I don't know, $20,000 dog. 2403 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:08,800 » All right, all those in favor? 2404 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,480 >> So, sorry, Cindy, you you mentioned 2405 01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:12,200 three drafts. Um 2406 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,440 >> So, I think there's the um 2407 01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:16,160 already [clears throat] approved EMS 2408 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,480 Commission draft. There's this draft 2409 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:20,520 that um is from the Joint Fire 2410 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,200 Commission from the last meeting. And 2411 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,720 then there's the one that our um staff 2412 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,160 worked on that had some of the um 2413 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,120 important village-related 2414 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,200 language in there. 2415 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:31,560 >> Yeah. 2416 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,040 >> We want to make sure that all all three 2417 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,320 of those go 2418 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,280 to Troy. 2419 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:36,880 >> Got it. 2420 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:37,800 >> All right. 2421 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,360 All those in favor? 2422 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:40,360 >> I. 2423 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:41,440 >> Opposed? 2424 01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:42,160 >> Nay. 2425 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:43,320 >> Abstain? 2426 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,200 Motion carries. All right, so we're 2427 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,280 going to move on to uh 2428 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,080 I scribbled all over my paper. Discuss 2429 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,480 2026 WEC election security subgrant. 2430 01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:54,520 Lisa. 2431 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:55,520 >> Thank you. 2432 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,800 There's a memo in the packet 2433 01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,000 that explains um a little bit of what 2434 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,640 the grant is. Um we have had the 2435 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,960 opportunity of applying for this um two 2436 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,760 other times and have benefited from it. 2437 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,600 Um again, this they have funds that they 2438 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,640 are opening up to municipalities, so 2439 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,240 we're asking for permission to apply for 2440 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,000 this grant. 2441 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,400 >> All right, any dis- 2442 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,960 Any discussion on the grant or questions 2443 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,230 for Lisa? 2444 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:26,640 All right, seeing none, we'll move on to 2445 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:32,270 the the 2026 um security sub grant. 2446 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,880 » Make a motion to approve the 2026 WEC 2447 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,600 election security sub grant as 2448 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,400 presented. 2449 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:42,120 >> I'll second. 2450 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,880 >> Motion by Murphy, second by JP. 2451 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,440 Any uh 2452 01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:49,000 debate on the motion? 2453 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,200 All right. 2454 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:51,720 All those in favor? 2455 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,160 >> Aye. 2456 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,560 >> Opposed? Abstain? Motion carries. 2457 01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,360 Uh number eight, reports from villages, 2458 01:22:58,360 --> 01:22:59,760 boards, commissions, and committees. We 2459 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,680 have the emergency management committee. 2460 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,000 JP, you want me to do that one? 2461 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,440 >> Yeah, I will. 2462 01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:07,960 Um okay, so the emergency management 2463 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,400 committee met on Thursday, July 23rd at 2464 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,880 2:00 p.m. here at Village Hall. 2465 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,200 Uh we had um this is the first time this 2466 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,880 committee uh makeup has met and with our 2467 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,120 new name and our new website and our new 2468 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,320 plan and all the things that we approved 2469 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:24,880 um earlier this year. 2470 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:25,920 Um we didn't have any public 2471 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,400 appearances. Um we they appointed me as 2472 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,720 chair and Paula as vice chair. 2473 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,760 Um we just um approved the minutes from 2474 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,680 the old committee and then um we uh 2475 01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,240 you know, talked to Lieutenant Wagner 2476 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:43,120 and gave him some direction on community committee expectations and 2477 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,120 some objectives. Um and you know, a 2478 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,640 couple of those that came out were um 2479 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,400 you know, making sure he has dedicated 2480 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,920 time to work on his to become a 2481 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,160 certified emergency manager 2482 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,560 um and continue with um trainings and 2483 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,360 come up with you know, budget requests 2484 01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,040 um etc. Um 2485 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,440 as far as 2486 01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:02,520 um 2487 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:03,800 you know, emergency management in the 2488 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,640 village goes. Um we talked about um 2489 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,520 priorities for planning and coordination 2490 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,360 of training exercises um and kind of 2491 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,000 landed on that we would do some 2492 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,720 um at our next meeting, which is most 2493 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,680 likely going to be quarterly. Um 2494 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,320 do a little you know, exercise training 2495 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,160 with the committee after each of those 2496 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,120 meetings um and working up towards live 2497 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,800 exercises and additional tabletops um 2498 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,040 throughout maybe 2027 2499 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,160 um 2500 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,560 as as we can. 2501 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,280 Um we talked about 2502 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:38,600 I mean, you know, Lieutenant Wagner gave 2503 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,080 an update on the natural hazard 2504 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,680 mitigation plan and our participation, 2505 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,920 which opens us up to new grant funding 2506 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,440 um and also training opportunities. 2507 01:24:47,440 --> 01:24:50,320 Uh we discussed um recommendations for 2508 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:51,880 the emergency management website and 2509 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,240 what we'd like to see um up there and we 2510 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,400 gave that direction to staff. 2511 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,920 Uh we talked about um budget and capital 2512 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:00,640 needs for emergency management within 2513 01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,320 the village and if we continue to do um 2514 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,360 you know, additional exercises and um 2515 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,920 trainings that most likely this board 2516 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,800 will see um increased um budgets um 2517 01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,200 coming forward for the next year. 2518 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,320 Um 2519 01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,360 we talked about our tornado sirens, 2520 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,440 where their placement. Um we have three 2521 01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:20,680 of them in the village now that are all 2522 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,680 operational um and you know, eventually 2523 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,880 looking forward to an additional um in 2524 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,400 future budgets, you know, that could be 2525 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:33,230 another potential um capital request. 2526 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,280 And we scheduled the next date uh 2527 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,520 meeting date for October 29th um at 3:00 2528 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,390 p.m. 2529 01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,280 Anything to add? 2530 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,200 Okay. Any questions about emergency 2531 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,960 management committee? 2532 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,400 Right. Parks and Rec Committee, Heidi. 2533 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,720 >> Yep, thank you. Uh we met on Thursday, 2534 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,280 July 23rd. We had a relatively brief 2535 01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,320 meeting this month. Um 2536 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:00,640 Sean's still working on gathering 2537 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,720 information about uh 2538 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,720 cottonwood tree ordinances that um any 2539 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:08,880 surrounding communities may have or any 2540 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,720 feedback for the committee to talk about 2541 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,920 as that came um 2542 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,520 through the committee from a resident. 2543 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,920 Um we also talked about the Shady Grove 2544 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,160 Park update because they were finishing 2545 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:23,440 up the 2546 01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:25,840 uh, shelter and kind of the final 2547 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,560 checklist at Shady Grove Park. 2548 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,400 We talked about the Juniper Fields 2549 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,800 Parkland update and uh, just updated the 2550 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,680 committee that the board approved to go 2551 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,760 ahead with the master planning process. 2552 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,360 Uh, so we're going to start that uh, in 2553 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,960 August and then went through Shawn's 2554 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,800 report of all the 2555 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,080 excellent activities, um, 2556 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,240 the recreation department's putting on 2557 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,760 and uh, happenings in the park. Uh, we 2558 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,320 did have um, report of um, some 2559 01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,920 vandalism at the Lions shelter. Some of 2560 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,280 the um, 2561 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,760 facilities had been smashed inside. Um, 2562 01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,520 so those I'm not sure if they're 2563 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,280 repaired yet. They were working on 2564 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,400 repairs. Um, 2565 01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,120 and 2566 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,080 you know, Shawn's consideration um, from 2567 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,240 the committee was to perhaps close that 2568 01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,920 shelter a little bit earlier since we 2569 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:25,120 don't have cameras um, at that facility. 2570 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,400 Um, future agenda items, uh, working on 2571 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,680 the Juniper Fields Parkland and then the 2572 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,400 cottonwood trees update um, ordinance 2573 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:35,640 um, 2574 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,480 update. It's kind of like if you would 2575 01:27:37,480 --> 01:27:38,920 treat 2576 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,520 require treatment of cottonwood trees or 2577 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,320 uh, just policies like we wouldn't plant 2578 01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:44,440 them on 2579 01:27:44,440 --> 01:27:47,000 um, municipal property. 2580 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,960 Um, and our next meeting is moved uh, to 2581 01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,200 Wednesday the 26th, the day before our 2582 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,640 usual meeting 2583 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,240 um, due to I believe the 27th is the 2584 01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,280 Rock 'n' Roll Back In. Um, so our 2585 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,360 meeting is at 5:00 on the 26th. 2586 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,120 And that about wraps it up unless Shawn 2587 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,960 had anything to add 2588 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,000 or if there's questions. 2589 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,790 >> Open it up to questions. 2590 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,360 All right. Hearing none, we can move on 2591 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,880 to Landfill. 2592 01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:17,720 Heidi. 2593 01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:18,120 >> Yep. 2594 01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,960 >> Landfill met on Monday, July 27th. 2595 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,720 And 2596 01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,840 we approved the bills. There were new no 2597 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,840 new monitoring results. We talked about 2598 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,160 the committee meeting frequency. 2599 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:38,520 And so the town had come we were three member 2600 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,280 committee that evening because Steve had 2601 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,280 an unexpected 2602 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,320 event that he was late to the meeting. 2603 01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,320 So but the 2604 01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,360 they did bring forward that the town 2605 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,320 agreed to reduce frequency to an annual 2606 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:53,680 meeting 2607 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,680 where we would go over annual testing 2608 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,840 results and the the budget for the next 2609 01:28:58,840 --> 01:28:59,880 year. 2610 01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:02,240 And 2611 01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:03,960 a special meeting would be called if 2612 01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,520 anything 2613 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,520 came up that needed urgent 2614 01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,760 addressing from the committee. And which 2615 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,600 is kind of how it would work now anyway. 2616 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,920 We generally wouldn't wait two months to 2617 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,400 meet if there was something urgent that 2618 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,000 came up. So 2619 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,080 that's kind of the direction. It sounds 2620 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,600 like we would need some kind of 2621 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,440 adjustment in the agreement. So that's 2622 01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:26,480 still 2623 01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:28,080 pending if 2624 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:29,600 you know that agreement does get 2625 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,880 changed. 2626 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:36,630 >> Any questions about Landfill? 2627 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:37,840 All right. 2628 01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,440 Um Cottage Grove Fire District 2629 01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:40,680 Commission. 2630 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:41,760 Heidi. 2631 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,000 >> Yep. So after 2632 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,080 >> invite Chief up to the front or unless 2633 01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:50,190 you want to stay sitting there? 2634 01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,880 » So right after that big Landfill joint 2635 01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,280 fire 2636 01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,320 commission met, 2637 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,600 we had the chief's report which was 2638 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:00,920 attached in the packet if you're 2639 01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,800 interested in the stats for the year. 2640 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:05,040 Um 2641 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,640 And up a little bit there's 2642 01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,000 um statistics about the types of calls 2643 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,080 that responded to, times of day, 2644 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,520 information about vehicles, um and uh 2645 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,160 staffing. We then talked about the roof 2646 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:25,280 vent prop um MOU, which um 2647 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:26,920 the 2648 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:30,080 department and uh the commission 2649 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,760 approved using Pleasant Springs funds to 2650 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,440 jointly purchase a uh kind of training 2651 01:30:36,440 --> 01:30:41,520 prop. It's a trailer that has um 2652 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,480 the ability to have training uh events 2653 01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:48,000 built on it using a various pitch of a 2654 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,040 roof line, so you can practice different 2655 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:54,840 training um scenarios um on it. So, uh 2656 01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,200 back in March, the 2657 01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,840 um the commission approved um 2658 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,640 using Pleasant Springs funds to fund 2659 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,240 half of that, and then um 2660 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,040 the Cottage Grove Volunteer Firefighters 2661 01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:08,640 um 2662 01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,440 paid for the other half. 2663 01:31:10,440 --> 01:31:14,760 And um looking so the 2664 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,960 volunteer fire department is looking to 2665 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,720 enter into an agreement about the use 2666 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,920 and ownership of the roof vent prop. So, 2667 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,760 I wrote a memo. Um I'm going to go 2668 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,680 through the rest of the agenda um and 2669 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,240 then we can come back to that. Um so, we 2670 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,480 discussed that at length. Um we also 2671 01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:37,200 talked about the service animal policy. 2672 01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,280 Um and then we talked about a plumbing 2673 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,440 maintenance item approved um the use of 2674 01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:48,800 uh funds to do a plumbing repair uh kind 2675 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,640 of a rooter-rooter 2676 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:51,680 um 2677 01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:53,560 situation. We talked about the length of 2678 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,760 service awards, which uh the village 2679 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,280 board had been in favor of. Uh there's a 2680 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:02,120 state um matching for um 2681 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,200 length of service uh that would go into 2682 01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:05,960 a retirement type account for 2683 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,520 firefighters 2684 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:08,880 um and 2685 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,440 through feedback from the department 2686 01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:13,120 um 2687 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,120 and the the town hasn't always been as 2688 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,160 supportive of moving forward with the 2689 01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:22,120 LOSAP, we decided to not include that in 2690 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,960 next year's budget. So, um 2691 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,880 we also talked about the paper call and 2692 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,160 how that's affecting responses. Um we 2693 01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,560 decided that maybe we'll collect more 2694 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,640 data and see um how the 2695 01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:39,560 how effective the paper call is at 2696 01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:44,510 increasing turnout. Um 2697 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,400 we're going to keep meeting at Town Hall 2698 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,280 because ESB has um 2699 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:53,840 EMS training on the fourth Monday. 2700 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:55,960 And we did move uh a couple of meeting 2701 01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,680 dates in September and October uh due to 2702 01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,120 a few conflicts. 2703 01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:02,960 So, that sums up the meeting. 2704 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,200 Um and then we can go back to the rough 2705 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,520 vent prop um 2706 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,160 ownership, which I did include a memo 2707 01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,520 that kind of summarized that history of 2708 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,080 the 2709 01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,040 equipment, which um as discussed at 2710 01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,560 joint fire um is the ownership of 2711 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,320 miscellaneous equipment and personal 2712 01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,200 property not described above shall be 2713 01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,680 determined by the district, um which is 2714 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,880 in the agreement from the volunteer fire 2715 01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,800 department Inc. Um so, 2716 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,880 you know, that's kind of where this MOU 2717 01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,960 started um 2718 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,000 under the understanding of that portion 2719 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,360 of the agreement. But, I would welcome 2720 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:47,350 Rick's um input on that. 2721 01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:48,560 » Uh so, I I 2722 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,280 believe that's correct. So, the fire 2723 01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,720 department agreement So, the agreement 2724 01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:54,160 basically between the municipalities and 2725 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,000 the volunteer fire department cuz the 2726 01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,600 volunteer fire department is a non-stock 2727 01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,000 corporation. um Um 2728 01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,000 so that agreement says and sort of lays 2729 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:05,520 out these different scenarios of how 2730 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:06,960 ownership of the equipment is 2731 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,200 determined. So basically everything is 2732 01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,320 supposed to be based on our funding 2733 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,200 formula for like major equipment purpose 2734 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:14,440 purchases. 2735 01:34:14,440 --> 01:34:15,880 Specialized equipment for the town is 2736 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:17,400 owned by the town. Specialized equipment 2737 01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,680 for the village is owned by the village. 2738 01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:20,640 Then there's sort of this sort of 2739 01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,200 catch-all phrase that says any other 2740 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:24,520 equipment 2741 01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:25,200 um 2742 01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,320 will be determined by the district. So 2743 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,680 if this was strictly a purchase by the 2744 01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,480 volunteer fire department, I would say 2745 01:34:31,480 --> 01:34:33,160 ownership is clearly volunteer fire 2746 01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,920 department. Um here because you have 2747 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,960 sort of like blending of funds, I think 2748 01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,360 best interpretation of it is that it's 2749 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,080 set by the district. So I guess the 2750 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,400 village could provide direction to say 2751 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:47,480 look, we're just going to treat this as 2752 01:34:47,480 --> 01:34:50,560 a volunteer fire department asset or it 2753 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,880 could say we want to treat it as a 2754 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,040 um district asset. 2755 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,640 If it wants to go that route, I'd 2756 01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:57,680 probably just want to make a couple 2757 01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,880 changes to the MOU. I haven't spent a 2758 01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:01,600 whole lot of time 2759 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:02,840 looking at it, but I think just 2760 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,120 clarifying the ownership 2761 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:06,080 um 2762 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,440 in the MOU of how that would work out uh 2763 01:35:08,440 --> 01:35:10,880 for the entities involved 2764 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,000 would make sense. But basically it's 2765 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,280 just a policy call for the village to 2766 01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,000 well, technically it says district, but 2767 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,960 the village can sort of 2768 01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,600 make its opinion known about how it 2769 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,520 views the ownership of the asset um and 2770 01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:26,800 working with 2771 01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,760 the volunteer fire department on how to 2772 01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:30,360 either structure the MOU or just 2773 01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,200 basically say no, it's yours regardless 2774 01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,360 of we just treat it as a donation. 2775 01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:36,440 >> And that is 2776 01:35:36,440 --> 01:35:37,400 I'm 2777 01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,280 that is something that I was going to 2778 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:40,800 point out earlier. That was something 2779 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,120 that uh we talked about at the 2780 01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,640 commission as well that the perhaps we 2781 01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,720 other option exactly that that we could 2782 01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,320 consider just um the owner is you know, 2783 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,760 the department. 2784 01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:58,590 >> Did we contribute funds? 2785 01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,800 » The Pleasant Springs funds were half. 2786 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:03,520 >> But those aren't our funds. The Those 2787 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,480 are coming from fees from the town of 2788 01:36:05,480 --> 01:36:07,560 Pleasant Springs. Those aren't coming 2789 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,560 from our taxpayers, right? 2790 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,920 >> Um, so the way that basically the 2791 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,680 agreements all work together, it 2792 01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,280 believe it would still fall under the 2793 01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,440 general ownership structure for the 2794 01:36:20,440 --> 01:36:22,480 district. So, even though it's a 2795 01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:24,440 Pleasant Springs 2796 01:36:24,440 --> 01:36:26,400 um, funds, they are contributed to 2797 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,280 district capital. So, the capital 2798 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:30,480 equipment that's purchased by the 2799 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:32,200 district is, 2800 01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:33,160 um, 2801 01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:34,680 the ownership percentage is based on 2802 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,200 the, um, 2803 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:42,190 like the budget apportionment. 2804 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:46,640 » My understanding of the Pleasant Springs agreement, um, that was 2805 01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,960 signed in 2014 by Diane Weinan back and 2806 01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,000 Chris Hampton, is that it allows for the 2807 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,600 department 2808 01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:57,240 to make the determination where to spend those funds. 2809 01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:58,400 Um, 2810 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,920 so I guess my my inclination is just 2811 01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,400 to say let the fire department own it. I 2812 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:05,960 mean, they're already providing the 2813 01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,080 insurance and all of the things that has 2814 01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,160 to do with it. 2815 01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:11,680 It's it's a specialized piece of 2816 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,120 equipment. Like, I don't think the 2817 01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,400 police are going to train on vent 2818 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,880 prop, right? I mean, 2819 01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:20,920 >> Actually, the fire 2820 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,880 uh, fire department offered for us to be 2821 01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,760 able to utilize it as a training aid. 2822 01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,252 >> Well, that's nice. Good. Yes. 2823 01:37:27,252 --> 01:37:27,360 >> [laughter] 2824 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:28,880 >> Um, but I mean, from a village 2825 01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,560 perspective, this is really a 2826 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,880 firefighter piece of equipment. I I 2827 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:33,880 guess 2828 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,160 let and given the fact that it came from 2829 01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,400 Pleasant Springs funds, which comes from 2830 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,000 their user fees, we didn't put any money 2831 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:42,360 towards this. I don't think we should be 2832 01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,400 taking any ownership of it. That's just 2833 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:48,630 my opinion. 2834 01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,760 » I think it came before 2835 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,920 um the commission and then to the boards 2836 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,680 because that is kind of a gray area that 2837 01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,040 in the 2838 01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,320 that we're able to determine 2839 01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:00,800 the ownership 2840 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:02,480 through the agreements that that that we 2841 01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:03,920 can determine that. So, I think that's 2842 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,080 why we're 2843 01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,600 talking about it. 2844 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,080 >> Um 2845 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:10,640 So, in looking at the Pleasant Springs 2846 01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,560 funding, it's that remaining fees should 2847 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,360 be applied towards capital expenses, but 2848 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,960 is the training prop So, it's a 2849 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,240 miscellaneous 2850 01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:24,080 equi- Is that not considered capital? 2851 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,560 And should those fees actually not be 2852 01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,520 used for this 2853 01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,120 purpose? 2854 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:36,150 I know what legally. 2855 01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,800 » Right. So, it's basically the 2856 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,480 Pleasant Springs funds go first to the 2857 01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:41,800 operational expenses of actually 2858 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,640 providing the the service. And then 2859 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,560 after that, it would go towards capital 2860 01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,040 expenses. 2861 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,960 But the capital expenses 2862 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:51,400 I mean, basically the capital expenses 2863 01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,160 are equipment owned by the the dist- or 2864 01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,720 by the village and town based on the 2865 01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:58,360 agreement, the fire district agreement 2866 01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:03,510 itself. 2867 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:05,880 » And then there's a capital plan 2868 01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,520 that was presented last year that has 2869 01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,240 the capital purchases that are upcoming 2870 01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,320 for the next 2871 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,040 10 years. 2872 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:22,910 I'm making that up. 2873 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,960 But this wasn't This wasn't on the list. Chris. 2874 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:28,720 >> Um 2875 01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,520 What's the lifespan of it and how much 2876 01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:34,070 did it did it cost? 2877 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,360 » 92,800. 2878 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,560 And I believe it's a metal structure. 2879 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,040 So, I mean, outside of the boards being 2880 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:42,360 replaced, 2881 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:47,630 I would do like 40 years. 2882 01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,480 » There's no I haven't found any data that 2883 01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:50,840 says how long they're lasting because 2884 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,440 they're pretty new. So, I mean 2885 01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:54,960 depends on how well it's maintained. It 2886 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:57,080 could be up to 40 years. It could be 20. 2887 01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:00,480 Depends on how bad it's used. 2888 01:40:00,480 --> 01:40:04,480 >> Yeah, I I think So, I think the with the fire district here is that 2889 01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:06,560 you know, the volunteer fire had 2890 01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,040 donation donated funds. So, what they 2891 01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,720 don't want to have happen and I know 2892 01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,520 they're sitting behind me is they don't 2893 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,440 want us to make a decision that we're 2894 01:40:14,440 --> 01:40:16,480 going to sell this asset and they're out 2895 01:40:16,480 --> 01:40:18,080 the 40-some thousand of their 2896 01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:19,800 contribution. 2897 01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,480 Um so, you know, when looking at an MOU, 2898 01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:25,600 I think spelling out that any basis that 2899 01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:27,080 would get 2900 01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,120 from a sale would go directly back to 2901 01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:31,120 them. I think that makes complete sense. 2902 01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:32,880 I think as far as an asset ownership 2903 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,320 perspective, um 2904 01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,280 it doesn't really 2905 01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,680 matter. I mean, I I would say the fire 2906 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,520 district is serving the Cottage Grove 2907 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:47,120 and Pleasant Springs community. So, that 2908 01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,880 asset and that was way those assets were 2909 01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,560 fundraised for, that was the purpose of 2910 01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:54,040 those funds. 2911 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:55,760 Um so, I think when we're looking kind 2912 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,320 of at this and other examples, I think 2913 01:40:58,320 --> 01:40:59,440 we're going to want to be consistent in 2914 01:40:59,440 --> 01:41:01,600 the treatment of assets like this. 2915 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,160 Um furthermore, um in any budget 2916 01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,120 request, I I do think the uh village 2917 01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:08,960 board and town board should be aware of 2918 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,480 all purchases being made regardless of 2919 01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:13,600 funding source because I think, you 2920 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,720 know, in this case, um 2921 01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:18,400 preserving the fundraising funds for 2922 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,600 other maybe more operational purposes 2923 01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:22,800 that enhance their service levels where 2924 01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,480 this is something the town and village 2925 01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:26,920 could have came together and contributed 2926 01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:28,640 the entirety amount. And so, having 2927 01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,800 those conversations during budget cycle, 2928 01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,920 especially going on, I think is is going 2929 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:36,280 to be very important. Um so, if we do 2930 01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,000 keep it as 2931 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:39,640 uh and I'm going to use different terms 2932 01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,560 here, a fiscal agent asset, which is a 2933 01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,920 town and village asset, I think there 2934 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:45,960 definitely should be an MOU in place on 2935 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,640 what happens if at disposal of the 2936 01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:49,910 asset. 2937 01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:50,280 >> [snorts] 2938 01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:58,240 >> If it's gone goes as a volunteer um equipment, I would say 2939 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,200 we would also want similar protections 2940 01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,440 that if it was get if the fire district 2941 01:42:02,440 --> 01:42:05,000 got rid of it, we would want our port 2942 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,240 proportionate share of the basis back. 2943 01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,400 Um so, kind of in consideration, just 2944 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:14,390 something to consider. 2945 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,400 » Other questions? Casey. 2946 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:17,560 >> Um 2947 01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:18,920 Rick, I'll put you on the spot and if 2948 01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:20,040 the answer is I don't know, I haven't 2949 01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,760 had time to read it, that's fine. Um 2950 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,840 with the MOU, so it lists 2951 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:27,600 uh 2952 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,360 you know, the the purchase option and 2953 01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:31,640 basically giving the fire department 2954 01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:33,440 like right of first refusal that if it 2955 01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:36,160 were to be sold and sorry, if the MOU's 2956 01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:37,840 in place, first of all, and then if it 2957 01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:39,640 were to be sold, they get right to 2958 01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:41,960 purchase it, but then also 2959 01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,720 mentions earlier uh 2960 01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:46,760 under no one approved transfer that it 2961 01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,840 shall not be sold without the 2962 01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:50,440 uh 2963 01:42:50,440 --> 01:42:52,920 written and unanimous consent of the 2964 01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,880 village, town, and the fire department. 2965 01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:58,240 Does that kind of preclude the right of 2966 01:42:58,240 --> 01:42:59,920 first refusal if the fire department 2967 01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:02,840 have to has to sign off on it first? 2968 01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,080 Doesn't that make it not get to that 2969 01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,950 point? 2970 01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,680 » Um theoretically, I mean, maybe there's 2971 01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:12,400 scenarios where 2972 01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:13,560 I mean 2973 01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:15,040 basically, you 2974 01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:16,280 want to make sure that it's not sold 2975 01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,960 without their consent, right? So, they 2976 01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:20,760 may this at least gives them a legal 2977 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,320 right and like an additional legal 2978 01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,360 right, so I don't see anything wrong 2979 01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:25,760 with including both. 2980 01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,120 >> Okay, I wasn't sure if it was redundant 2981 01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,280 or one of them nullified the other in 2982 01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:33,400 some way, so that makes sense. And then 2983 01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:34,560 uh 2984 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,280 well, I guess I'll sort of echo what uh 2985 01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,040 Cameron and what you said and what was 2986 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,120 sort of said at the fire commission. 2987 01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:42,200 I don't know if we could put anything in 2988 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:43,320 writing for this, but yeah, we should 2989 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,840 not do this going forward, this way of 2990 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,280 purchasing and funding things cuz 2991 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,680 if there's any way to make that more 2992 01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,440 forceful or some sort of memo or 2993 01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:54,920 recommendation, I think maybe that's 2994 01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:56,600 worth considering so we don't do this 2995 01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:00,040 again cuz yeah, this is a mess. 2996 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,440 >> It was definitely talked about at 2997 01:44:01,440 --> 01:44:04,120 commission that um 2998 01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:06,960 this kind of arrangement is not 2999 01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,160 probably wouldn't um 3000 01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:10,520 go about that again. 3001 01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:11,880 And then I wanted to give Chief 3002 01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:13,200 Archibald, I know you've been waiting a 3003 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:14,320 little bit, a chance. Did I miss 3004 01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,240 anything from the 3005 01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:17,240 um 3006 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:18,440 from the discussion there that you 3007 01:44:18,440 --> 01:44:19,440 wanted to touch on? 3008 01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:21,400 >> No, I mean you summed it up pretty well. 3009 01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:26,520 It's just if the agreement is decided that the 3010 01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:28,240 fire department has to give up their 3011 01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:29,760 ownership of it, we just want 3012 01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,360 protections that 3013 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:32,840 one, it's not sold without our 3014 01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,000 permission and two, like 3015 01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,760 the use of it just because we put a lot 3016 01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,120 of money into it. So, like 3017 01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,200 if somebody just decides next week that 3018 01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:43,720 we're going to sell it, like the fire 3019 01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:44,760 department doesn't want to be out all 3020 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:46,040 that money without any kind of 3021 01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,280 repercussions. So, that's really all it 3022 01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:49,520 was about. 3023 01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:52,680 Um and to your point, Casey, uh yeah, 3024 01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,000 we've already discussed we're not going 3025 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:55,720 to do anything like this again. We're 3026 01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:56,800 either going to buy it outright 3027 01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,280 ourselves or we'll put it in a budget 3028 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:03,560 item for the municipalities to buy it. 3029 01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,000 >> And I think Nick, to that point, you 3030 01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,960 know, as we talked about, um it would be 3031 01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,160 helpful for the village and town to know 3032 01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,640 what all the purchases are because we 3033 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,640 wouldn't expect the the fire 3034 01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,280 department to come up with $92,000 3035 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,160 of of equipment. Um we you know, we want 3036 01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:21,560 obviously those to be enhancements of 3037 01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:23,480 funds. The intent is never to have your 3038 01:45:23,480 --> 01:45:26,040 association fund raise for everything. 3039 01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:26,680 Um 3040 01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,360 so, that was another part of this is 3041 01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,000 kind of getting better visualization in 3042 01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,480 what those requests are. 3043 01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:35,190 >> Sure. 3044 01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:37,560 » Ricky, you mentioned that um, if we went 3045 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,280 ahead with the MOU, you would want to 3046 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:42,520 make some changes. What would those be? 3047 01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:43,720 >> Uh, so, I haven't spent a whole lot of 3048 01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:46,000 time looking at it. The first thing I 3049 01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,640 know is just it doesn't spell out who 3050 01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:50,040 actually owns the equipment. So, just 3051 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:51,520 specifying 3052 01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:52,920 who owns it is the biggest thing that 3053 01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:54,400 jumped out to me. 3054 01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,920 >> I I guess I my recommendation was 3055 01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,200 simplification. Just 3056 01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:02,200 asset ownership is X. If the asset is 3057 01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,200 sold at the sole discretion of the fire 3058 01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,880 department Inc., the village and town 3059 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:07,960 would 3060 01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,560 receive or return the proportionate 3061 01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:12,360 share of proceeds. Just a two-liner. 3062 01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,560 Something very simple. I think we start 3063 01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:18,520 talking about tax treatment and other things and I 3064 01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,320 think that as we start to get into an 3065 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,040 agreement that's much more complicated 3066 01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,000 as opposed to just saying 3067 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,640 it's up to them. They have the first use 3068 01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:30,320 of the equipment. They are the sole 3069 01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,440 deciders on if the equipment gets sold. 3070 01:46:33,440 --> 01:46:35,160 And if they it does get sold, they get 3071 01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,000 their funds back. 3072 01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:39,960 >> Can you and this is maybe where a 3073 01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:41,880 disconnect is happening to me, where 3074 01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:44,280 you're saying that if they sold the 3075 01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,680 piece of proper- the piece of equipment 3076 01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:47,920 that the village would get their share 3077 01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,720 back, but we didn't put any money into 3078 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:51,680 it. Like I that's where the disconnect 3079 01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:52,320 is. 3080 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,560 >> Yeah, so so, Kim calculated by year the 3081 01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:57,200 Pleasant Springs funds that were 3082 01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:58,960 calculated and calculated what 3083 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:00,560 technically is the village's and what's 3084 01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:02,640 technically the town. 3085 01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,440 I don't like the Pleasant Springs funds 3086 01:47:04,440 --> 01:47:06,240 how they're treated. I think they should 3087 01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:10,400 offset operating costs and then we don't 3088 01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,120 these funds that are being held 3089 01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,480 by the town are creating these 3090 01:47:15,480 --> 01:47:18,000 additional conversations that frankly I 3091 01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:19,720 think you could these can just come in 3092 01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:22,200 budget requests. So, my my personal 3093 01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:23,920 opinion is if you have an operating 3094 01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,840 budget of $350,000 from the fire 3095 01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:30,960 department, we should just be taking all the funds that are getting received 3096 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:32,880 by Pleasant Springs, and that's what our 3097 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:34,640 community should be levied, and then we 3098 01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:38,040 just levy for or capital requests as 3099 01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,680 they come in. Because right now, what's 3100 01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:42,240 happening is this pool of money is being 3101 01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:43,760 held, and both communities have to 3102 01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,840 approve how it's being spent, and it's 3103 01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:47,280 creating an extra layer of 3104 01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:50,800 organizational administrative work. 3105 01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,280 And where that further gets complicated 3106 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,120 is now that we're transitioning sort of 3107 01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:57,320 from the 3108 01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,600 volunteer model, there's the operating 3109 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:00,880 costs are going to be starting to 3110 01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,840 increase incrementally. 3111 01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,120 And so, that model of having that 3112 01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,000 Pleasant Springs bucket just build up 3113 01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:08,720 doesn't, in my opinion, doesn't make 3114 01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:10,840 sense anymore. I don't think I don't 3115 01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:12,520 think it makes sense to have something 3116 01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,320 just sit be sitting in an account. 3117 01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:19,160 Um especially because, you know, we've talked about the the intent or the 3118 01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:20,840 spirit of those funds are for equipment 3119 01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:22,840 that should be responding to Pleasant 3120 01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:24,920 Springs, and so when we start tying more 3121 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,280 and more of administrative strings to 3122 01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:28,920 funding, it just 3123 01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:30,480 it's makes it harder to manage those 3124 01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:31,560 funds. And, you know, if you have 3125 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,640 turnover at municipalities, remembering 3126 01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:35,800 what those all of those little functions 3127 01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:37,960 are. 3128 01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:39,320 If that makes sense. 3129 01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,640 >> It does. I guess I I I see this as um 3130 01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,520 when we're talking about pouring it back 3131 01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,040 into the vehicles or whatever capital 3132 01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:48,680 servicing Pleasant Springs. Like, I 3133 01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,080 think about this as a sinking fund 3134 01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,000 where, you know, we know that our 3135 01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:54,880 engine, you know, we have an engine 3136 01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:56,320 coming up I think in the next couple 3137 01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:57,840 years, um 3138 01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,480 where we we basically take these funds, 3139 01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:02,680 set them aside, and that replaces the 3140 01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:04,880 engine, and there's a direct 3141 01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,800 benefit to Pleasant Springs. So, I think 3142 01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,520 that's a bigger conversation, obviously, 3143 01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:11,920 than this one, you know, piece of it, 3144 01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:13,200 but 3145 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:13,920 I 3146 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:18,000 >> 100% agree, and I think um 3147 01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:19,320 when we're when we kind of talk about 3148 01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,600 that, each individual 3149 01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:22,960 I think that's something we could even 3150 01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:25,480 do from a mechanic perspective. So, we 3151 01:49:25,480 --> 01:49:26,840 can hold like those funds don't 3152 01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:28,360 necessarily be have to be held by the 3153 01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,520 fiscal agent if we want to be dumping it 3154 01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,720 into a sinking fund because as you'll 3155 01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:34,240 see on the monthly reports that Kim 3156 01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,200 provides, it does she does calculate it 3157 01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,880 a village portion and a and a town 3158 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,040 portion of that asset. Um but we 3159 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,400 obviously have no control. Like I can't 3160 01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,440 say Kim cut a check for $230 3161 01:49:46,440 --> 01:49:48,640 $239,000. I want to use it for the 3162 01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,360 ladder truck even though you guys want 3163 01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,760 to wait and use it on a squad or X. So, 3164 01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:54,960 I think 3165 01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:56,920 opening up that flexibility, whatever it 3166 01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:59,120 is, something I think should be 3167 01:49:59,120 --> 01:49:59,840 considered. 3168 01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:01,080 >> Heidi. 3169 01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:03,800 Um Pleasant Springs uses 2% dues to help 3170 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,160 pay their contracts. Does that factor 3171 01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:09,320 into how it can be used or like 2% dues 3172 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,000 can only be used in capital? Is that my 3173 01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:13,280 correct understanding? 3174 01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,480 >> in the room. Capital, inspections, 3175 01:50:16,480 --> 01:50:18,520 um certain training, 3176 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,080 apparatus. 3177 01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:21,880 I always ask April cuz she's the one who 3178 01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,080 knows the most on it. I mean, I think to 3179 01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:25,760 that point though, you you talk about 3180 01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,240 insp- things that are inspection and 3181 01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:31,920 um there's enough costs. I think they're 3182 01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,960 What is it? 50,000 a year is the 3183 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:36,040 Yeah, contract. 3184 01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:37,640 >> 20, but then they're splitting that up 3185 01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:39,400 between two municipalities. 3186 01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:40,200 >> Yeah. 3187 01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:41,560 >> We have to really work with Pleasant 3188 01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:43,360 Springs to identify what's going on 3189 01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,520 there and I think that 3190 01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:46,960 is real critical. 3191 01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:50,230 >> Yeah. 3192 01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:51,600 So, good good good comment. 3193 01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:52,680 >> Thank you. 3194 01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:53,960 Okay. Any other 3195 01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:56,120 >> But I definitely think it's worthwhile 3196 01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:57,680 when we have a joint meeting to talk 3197 01:50:57,680 --> 01:50:59,720 have a good a discussion about the 3198 01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:03,550 future of this. 3199 01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:05,880 » Should we move on to consider ownership 3200 01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:09,950 of the roof vent prop? 3201 01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,360 I would make the motion that we allow 3202 01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:13,480 the 3203 01:51:13,480 --> 01:51:15,200 um Keg Grove Volunteer Fire Department 3204 01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:18,920 to be the owner of this vent prop 3205 01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:20,320 equipment. 3206 01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,280 >> I'll second the motion. 3207 01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:25,720 >> Motion by Sieverson, second by Wenzel. 3208 01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:29,430 Uh debate on the motion. 3209 01:51:29,440 --> 01:51:31,800 » I guess I would just ask that maybe we 3210 01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,840 consider having 3211 01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,120 a similar type of agreement to have 3212 01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:39,000 funds go back in the Pleasant Springs 3213 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:40,840 account if 3214 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,840 it's sold or you know, like a similar 3215 01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,480 kind of agreement. Or yeah, 3216 01:51:46,480 --> 01:51:47,400 proportionally. 3217 01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,760 >> I would amend my motion to um include 3218 01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,560 that if the fire department were to sell 3219 01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,640 the asset that the Pleasant Springs 3220 01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:57,200 portion be returned to the Pleasant 3221 01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:59,160 Springs fund. 3222 01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,160 >> In full or with it? Is there a 3223 01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:02,440 depreciation that happens? 3224 01:52:02,440 --> 01:52:05,640 >> 50% cuz if the asset was split 50/50, so 3225 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:08,240 50% of the proceeds be returned to the 3226 01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:09,240 Pleasant Springs fund. 3227 01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:10,600 >> you. 3228 01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,790 >> Yes. 3229 01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:15,800 » I would agree. 3230 01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:17,880 Do you have that, Lisa? 3231 01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,200 >> And then my follow-up question is that 3232 01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:22,520 something that we need to 3233 01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:28,030 draft something on to be signed or 3234 01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,880 » I hate overcomplicating things. 3235 01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:34,590 Um 3236 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,280 Yes. I mean, for something to be like 3237 01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,560 that legally enforceable, um Yes. I 3238 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,360 mean, like we don't control the asset, 3239 01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:45,520 right? They own it. Um 3240 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,480 From a logistical standpoint, you know, 3241 01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:49,640 it probably 3242 01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:54,030 comes out through the budget process. Um 3243 01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:55,520 So, we could put something together if 3244 01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:56,800 the if that's the direction the Village 3245 01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,480 Board wants. Um 3246 01:52:59,480 --> 01:53:00,680 otherwise we're just sort of doing a 3247 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,760 handshake agreement that that's the way 3248 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:07,470 it'll be done. 3249 01:53:07,480 --> 01:53:09,400 » Is the town board about this this 3250 01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:10,800 evening? 3251 01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,320 >> Maybe as part of their report. It wasn't 3252 01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,950 a certain agenda item. 3253 01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:17,480 » Mhm. 3254 01:53:17,480 --> 01:53:21,680 >> I feel like to prevent any 3255 01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,360 interpretation, especially looking at 3256 01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,440 our agreement with um the fire 3257 01:53:25,440 --> 01:53:30,040 department, um we should have an MOU 3258 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,400 that states that we are officially 3259 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,440 giving it to them so that there's no 3260 01:53:35,440 --> 01:53:37,040 It's all cut and dry. I know one of the 3261 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:40,160 biggest concerns too was registration of 3262 01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:42,360 it. Um that's how this all came up is in 3263 01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:44,480 order for the department of They went to 3264 01:53:44,480 --> 01:53:46,040 go to register and they 3265 01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:47,880 really couldn't because of all this gray 3266 01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,200 area. So, like it needs to be explicitly 3267 01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:54,920 clear for all elements in there that we 3268 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,680 are giving them of the ownership. 3269 01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:59,200 And at the same time we're asking for 3270 01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:02,040 the similar protections in there. 3271 01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:03,280 So, I just ask. 3272 01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:06,793 >> So, I'll amend my motion my motion to 3273 01:54:06,793 --> 01:54:07,640 >> [laughter] 3274 01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:12,080 >> to give them asset ownership um to um 3275 01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:13,800 have the ability to return 50% of the 3276 01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,000 proceeds to Pleasant Springs fund in the 3277 01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:20,120 event it's sold, and um 3278 01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:21,400 And yeah, 3279 01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:23,080 institute an a memorandum of 3280 01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:26,160 understanding that outlines the two 3281 01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,320 measures. 3282 01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:31,630 >> I agree. 3283 01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:33,200 Does anyone need that 3284 01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:34,680 read back to them or does everyone in 3285 01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:38,000 understanding what they're voting on? 3286 01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:39,720 All those in favor? 3287 01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:40,800 >> Aye. 3288 01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:43,960 >> Opposed? Abstain? Motion carries. All 3289 01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:49,670 right, law enforcement committee, Chris. 3290 01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:51,200 » We met 3291 01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:53,120 on Oh, I closed it. One second. We met 3292 01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:54,160 on 3293 01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,080 July 28th at Village Hall at 5:30. 3294 01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:58,320 Um 3295 01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,280 we approved the minutes. 3296 01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:02,960 We got a police station construction 3297 01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:04,160 update. 3298 01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:06,320 We approved a new 3299 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:09,720 sex offender appeal board form. 3300 01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:13,560 We went over the year-to-date budget 3301 01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:16,200 status and how much of that has been 3302 01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:17,520 used. 3303 01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:19,120 Talked about community night out August 3304 01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:21,840 19th from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. 3305 01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,080 Got the chief's reports. 3306 01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:27,440 And we adjourned. 3307 01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,920 >> Questions for Chris on law enforcement. 3308 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,600 >> I don't necessarily have a Well, I don't 3309 01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:34,280 know if you can answer this, Chris, but 3310 01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,560 I'm just reading through and and maybe 3311 01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,800 this is more of a Chief Gary I'm looking 3312 01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:43,600 through the rolling summary numbers 3313 01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,360 and the check property is really high in 3314 01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,680 comparison to the other numbers. Is that 3315 01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:52,280 an accumulation of 3316 01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,240 I guess can you explain exactly what 3317 01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:57,040 check property is? 3318 01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,960 >> Simple terms, proactive policing. 3319 01:55:59,960 --> 01:56:02,200 >> Okay, can you explain what that means? 3320 01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:03,160 >> Checking properties throughout the 3321 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:04,480 village. 3322 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,240 >> Is that like 3323 01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:06,520 people 3324 01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:09,520 >> Residences, residences, businesses, 3325 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:10,920 whether people are calling village 3326 01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:12,400 property. 3327 01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,960 >> So people are people are calling in and 3328 01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:16,760 asking for property checks? 3329 01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,720 >> There's vacation checks, there's 3330 01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,400 business checks. 3331 01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,960 So yes. 3332 01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:25,670 >> Okay. [clears throat] 3333 01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:27,120 And if anyone's watching online, there's 3334 01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:28,520 actually you can go on their website and 3335 01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:29,600 you can fill out a form and then they 3336 01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,040 come and look at your property and you 3337 01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:36,070 they appear on your ring camera. 3338 01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,760 » And I will say that I appreciate it when 3339 01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:42,160 they stop by the banks proactively 3340 01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:43,995 and credit unions. 3341 01:56:43,995 --> 01:56:44,840 >> [laughter] 3342 01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,960 >> With the police update, there is on the 3343 01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:50,440 village's Cottage Grove transparency 3344 01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:51,720 portal 3345 01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:53,640 project page dedicated to the police 3346 01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,440 station that we're updating monthly from 3347 01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:58,080 a financial update. So we have all 3348 01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,080 update pictures on there. So, to kind of 3349 01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,760 supplement Chief Gary's monthly report 3350 01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:04,840 at LEC, we're updating on a monthly 3351 01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:06,760 basis the financials. 3352 01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:07,800 Um and I was going to try to share my 3353 01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:09,080 screen, but I'm not going to make it. 3354 01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:11,040 So, we don't have to wait for me. We can 3355 01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,080 move on to the next item. 3356 01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:14,720 >> Which is reports from village officers, 3357 01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,400 and we'll start with Rick. 3358 01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:18,360 In [clears throat] the hot seat, right 3359 01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:19,120 next to me. 3360 01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:21,520 >> Uh I have nothing for tonight. 3361 01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:24,000 Hopefully, I can have the uh federal 3362 01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,320 housing bill update um for the next 3363 01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:27,400 meeting. 3364 01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,360 Um it's 3365 01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:30,840 fairly comprehensive, so I'm just going 3366 01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:32,120 to do sort of like a high-level 3367 01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,560 overview. Um 3368 01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:35,960 and if there are like further direction 3369 01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:37,720 to look at the things after that, we can 3370 01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:38,880 explore them. 3371 01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,110 >> Okay. 3372 01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:46,350 Um village administrator, Matt. 3373 01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:47,760 » Thanks. Um 3374 01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,000 couple things from the uh projects 3375 01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,720 tracker, Juniper Fields 3376 01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:53,280 um 3377 01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:55,640 construction is planned to start this 3378 01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:58,840 month, potentially in a couple weeks. Um 3379 01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,640 our 2026 uh streets and pedestrian 3380 01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:04,480 projects are on track to be 3381 01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,400 substantially complete by the end of the 3382 01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:07,480 month. 3383 01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:10,240 Um and by and large, all of our uh 3384 01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:13,040 capital projects, as I as sent to you 3385 01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:16,920 guys, uh happy reporter coming in at and 3386 01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,640 many times uh well under budget. 3387 01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:22,240 Um and then highlighting um 3388 01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,000 staff years of service um 3389 01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,400 for the month of August, Forester uh 3390 01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:30,240 James Rathman is um in his 27th year 3391 01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:31,440 with the village. 3392 01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:32,560 >> 27? 3393 01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,790 >> Yes. 3394 01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:38,200 » Any questions or comments for Matt? 3395 01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:39,000 >> Hello. 3396 01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:40,440 >> Yeah, I have two questions. On your 3397 01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:42,960 monthly briefing um that you emailed 3398 01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,560 out, you mentioned that a draft survey 3399 01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:47,160 um for the comp plan is being reviewed 3400 01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,400 by staff, and then that group intends to 3401 01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:50,760 put that public. But, are we going to 3402 01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:54,200 get the opportunity to comment on that 3403 01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,000 survey cuz they're only doing one, 3404 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,120 right? 3405 01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:00,280 >> Yeah, I believe it's one survey. Um 3406 01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:03,480 Aaron's going to be sending this week um 3407 01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:06,080 to planning commission and the board to 3408 01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,680 um for you guys to submit any kind of 3409 01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:10,160 comments that you have and we'll 3410 01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,160 certainly incorporate, you know, themes 3411 01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:13,880 of responses. 3412 01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:14,320 >> Okay. 3413 01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:14,640 >> Yeah. 3414 01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:15,920 cuz we did that with the housing 3415 01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:17,920 chapter update as our committee kind of 3416 01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:19,640 worked on that survey, so it'd be nice 3417 01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:21,440 to have that opportunity. And then the 3418 01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:23,520 second question I had was on the 3419 01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:26,520 development projects. Um 3420 01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:28,320 you said the water main looping project 3421 01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:31,760 was completed on July 16th. So, I know 3422 01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:34,240 that more of East Gaston was paved than 3423 01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:36,280 just the looping area. 3424 01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:38,360 Um and I know that was a bid alternative 3425 01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:40,520 from the utility commission, but I know 3426 01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,600 we never got a developer's agreement to 3427 01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,440 get them to pay for that. So, now that 3428 01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:49,280 172,000 that we spent on that paving, 3429 01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:53,750 who who's going to be paying for that? 3430 01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:57,800 » Um I believe that's the utility for the 3431 01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:59,720 short term and I don't know if Rick or 3432 01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:01,800 Cameron can jump in, but we can 3433 02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,160 potentially recover that through 3434 02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:05,800 um 3435 02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:07,920 you know, any upcoming 3436 02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:09,800 development that comes in the area cuz 3437 02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:11,760 there's there's likely 3438 02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:12,920 um 3439 02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:15,280 depending on the type of development, 3440 02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:16,800 since it's going to be probably more 3441 02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:18,760 intensive use, so probably be be more 3442 02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:20,560 substantial roadway improvements out 3443 02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:22,160 there. 3444 02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:23,800 >> And I guess I don't remember the extent 3445 02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:24,880 of the 3446 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,160 um paving out there on Gaston, but the 3447 02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:30,080 pre-annexation agreement still has those 3448 02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:32,200 requirements that run with the property. 3449 02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:34,280 So, any future development is still on 3450 02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:37,880 the hook for any improvements that were 3451 02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:39,240 placed 3452 02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:40,960 I remember the specifics, but basically 3453 02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:44,040 they involve Gaston Road and um like 3454 02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:45,520 future water main looping through that 3455 02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:47,320 property. So, those are all requirements 3456 02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:49,560 that run with the property. 3457 02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:51,000 >> So, just kind of a little bit of a 3458 02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:53,160 history, um it's really good that our 3459 02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:55,360 water and sewer department works really 3460 02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:56,840 well with public works. It's kind of a 3461 02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:58,640 joke because it's one person, and that's 3462 02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:00,360 why I would never recommend separating 3463 02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:03,360 it. In many communities, unfortunately, 3464 02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:05,040 if water and sewer are separate, 3465 02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:07,200 sometimes you have projects done where 3466 02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:08,840 the utilities are done, but the road's 3467 02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,480 not planned, and unfortunately, it's 3468 02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:13,080 essentially the utility if it's a 3469 02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:15,640 utility-only project, the utility ends 3470 02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:17,880 up paying for the cost of the road. 3471 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:18,920 Um 3472 02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:20,720 in this case, we do have an option, as 3473 02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:22,560 Rick mentioned, to eventually recover a 3474 02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:25,160 proportionate share of that that cost. 3475 02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:26,640 So, I'm working on keeping track of 3476 02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:29,240 that. I do know as part of that, some of 3477 02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:32,000 the backfilling of that um of that 3478 02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:34,040 change order was a little bit higher 3479 02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:35,280 than 3480 02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:36,920 the road cost was a little bit less, but 3481 02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:39,600 the backfill and the granular fill was 3482 02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:43,360 more to stabilize the um actual looping, 3483 02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:45,760 and Kyla knows way more than I do. 3484 02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:47,000 Um but I think she's dropped off by now. 3485 02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:51,830 So, um we'll get a we'll get an update. 3486 02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:53,720 » Any other questions on the village 3487 02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:57,000 administrator report? 3488 02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:01,120 >> So, I'm trying to mentally catch up. Um 3489 02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:03,720 was this originally part of what was to 3490 02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:06,840 be the Creed? Is that part of what he 3491 02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:10,840 the developer was agreeing to pay for? 3492 02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:13,160 >> This project was always going to be done 3493 02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:15,080 regardless if it was just like perfect 3494 02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:17,400 timing that if that project happened, we 3495 02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:18,920 could get them to pay for something that 3496 02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:20,120 we already knew we were going to pay 3497 02:02:20,120 --> 02:02:21,160 for. 3498 02:02:21,160 --> 02:02:22,760 Um so, it was kind of like a benefit of 3499 02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:25,320 just working in the same area. 3500 02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:26,440 There's going to be additional work that 3501 02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:28,320 needs to be done out there anyways, um 3502 02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:30,600 eventually. Um but this helps create 3503 02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:31,880 that kind of a looping in that 3504 02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:33,800 infrastructure in that area, some a 3505 02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:36,520 little bit of a redundancy. 3506 02:02:36,520 --> 02:02:39,160 But when this project was originally 3507 02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:41,160 proposed, Creed wasn't even in the 3508 02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:44,600 picture. I guess to put people's minds 3509 02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:47,680 at ease, this this was not um the 3510 02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:50,840 looping portion of the project that we 3511 02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:52,320 would have done or the additional 3512 02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:54,160 looping that we would have done we 3513 02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:56,400 didn't do to service the project because 3514 02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:58,360 the project didn't move forward. Does 3515 02:02:58,360 --> 02:02:59,640 that make sense? We didn't extend the 3516 02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:02,400 utilities as part of this project as if 3517 02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:03,560 we would have had to if the Creed 3518 02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:06,880 development would have happened. 3519 02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:09,440 >> Okay. I'm I'm confused because I just 3520 02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:12,120 remember having that conversation 3521 02:03:12,120 --> 02:03:13,280 when 3522 02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,520 before Creed 3523 02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:17,160 when we were having 3524 02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:20,840 before the development agreement um 3525 02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:22,800 and the board 3526 02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:27,320 I don't recall approving that specific 3527 02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:29,480 at that I don't I don't know that the 3528 02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:31,160 board ever approved that. 3529 02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:32,840 >> The the utility did. 3530 02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:35,340 It's a utility project. 3531 02:03:35,340 --> 02:03:35,640 >> [snorts] 3532 02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:38,080 >> So when the utility 3533 02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:40,400 ne tears up a road to 3534 02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:42,080 put the utilities in they're responsible 3535 02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:43,080 for 3536 02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:45,120 fixing the road. This was an opportunity 3537 02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:47,280 to lessen that cost because the timing 3538 02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:50,200 of development going in the same time. 3539 02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:51,880 >> I guess I should have clarified. Not the 3540 02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:53,440 water looping, I know about that. I'm 3541 02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:55,320 talking about the extra paving that went 3542 02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:57,640 up and around beyond the water looping. 3543 02:03:57,640 --> 02:03:58,360 As as 3544 02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:01,280 >> Yeah, and that's still an obligation of the property. 3545 02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:01,680 >> Okay. 3546 02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:03,440 >> Yeah. 3547 02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:04,640 >> All right. 3548 02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:06,960 Can we move on to uh the assistant 3549 02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,000 administrator finance director 3550 02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,880 presentation of 2026 Q2 budget to actual 3551 02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:14,630 reports? 3552 02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:17,440 » Okay. In the packet um you'll see the 3553 02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:20,600 quarter two interim reports. Um the 3554 02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:22,800 first half of the year is going well in 3555 02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,920 comparison to the budget. Um 3556 02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:28,280 in August we'll get our final tax 3557 02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:30,440 payment from the county of about 3.2 3558 02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:33,280 million. Um as Matt said, most projects 3559 02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:36,040 are coming in favor favorably. 3560 02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:38,440 And um just a couple of days the 3561 02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:40,440 stormwater management plan is with the 3562 02:04:40,440 --> 02:04:43,800 DNR for review once it's approved then 3563 02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:46,440 we'll request funds for the grant and 3564 02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:47,880 then 3565 02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:50,000 the DNR Streetlight project hasn't 3566 02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:51,600 started yet but it's actively being 3567 02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:55,920 worked on so that'll start soon. 3568 02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:57,880 Is there any questions that you guys 3569 02:04:57,880 --> 02:04:59,800 had? 3570 02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:00,880 >> Yeah and 3571 02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:02,840 so the DNR 3572 02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:05,440 Trailhead Grant 3573 02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:06,960 there's just some things that with some 3574 02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:08,440 of the decorative lighting it takes a 3575 02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,600 little bit so we ordered those waiting 3576 02:05:10,600 --> 02:05:12,720 on it a line is actually running that 3577 02:05:12,720 --> 02:05:14,280 whole project for 3578 02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:15,800 so we'll get invoiced approximately 3579 02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:18,400 49,000 and then we have a sign MOU with 3580 02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,240 DNR to return 3581 02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:22,360 the remaining 30,000. 3582 02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:23,480 Um. 3583 02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:26,000 I'm really proud of all of our staff for 3584 02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:29,560 managing the really turbulent first and 3585 02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:31,880 most of second quarter with increasing 3586 02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:34,960 in price like major increasing in prices 3587 02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,280 and proactively managing 3588 02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:38,960 those costs really the only thing we saw 3589 02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:40,640 was a little bit of fuel surcharging 3590 02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:42,960 coming from garbage and recycling and a 3591 02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:46,160 little bit of fuel cost which you know 3592 02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:48,160 we're we're able to to eat here so 3593 02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:49,920 really happy 3594 02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:51,680 about everybody's kind of group 3595 02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:54,440 mentality for for improvement there. 3596 02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:56,640 Um. 3597 02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:58,720 While um. 3598 02:05:58,720 --> 02:05:59,920 As we kind of mentioned with the capital 3599 02:05:59,920 --> 02:06:02,920 projects really we we schedule a lot of 3600 02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:04,080 our projects to finish up with 3601 02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:06,240 substantial completion in August so 3602 02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:07,640 typically what we see is a first 3603 02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:09,720 financial management plan that doesn't 3604 02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:12,160 include a lot of unspent bond proceeds 3605 02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:14,920 or debt proceeds to offset future costs 3606 02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:16,720 and then in September 3607 02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:17,920 kind of when I feel a little bit more 3608 02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:19,480 comfortable about presenting a number 3609 02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:21,360 that that gets added in to reduce the 3610 02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:23,320 tax impact 3611 02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:27,640 very we're on pace for to 3612 02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:29,760 significantly beat 3613 02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:31,160 you know what our budgeted numbers are 3614 02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:33,680 especially especially in vehicles. 3615 02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:35,640 Um 3616 02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:37,720 So, excited about that. Um 3617 02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:39,880 obviously, um 3618 02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:42,520 kind of we can kind of loop the kind of 3619 02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:44,160 the budget cycle 3620 02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:45,720 the the next kind of agenda point under 3621 02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:47,160 my item cuz they kind of go hand in 3622 02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:49,120 hand. Um 3623 02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:52,400 So, you know, we had about 369 3624 02:06:52,400 --> 02:06:54,320 .8 million dollars of net new 3625 02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:56,440 construction. Obviously, a vast majority 3626 02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,680 of that's attributed to the Amazon 3627 02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:02,880 warehouse facility. Um 23.924% 3628 02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,440 net new construction. Um if you don't 3629 02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:07,120 include Cottage Grove, the Dane County 3630 02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:09,680 average is 1.7%. 3631 02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:12,760 Um what is kind of a a better statistic 3632 02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:13,880 that I like to look at is our 3633 02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:16,960 residential equalized value 3634 02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:21,680 um in 2025 was roughly 72% of our um 3635 02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:23,960 makeup as a village, and that has now 3636 02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:27,120 been reduced to 58.33%. 3637 02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:28,720 While I understand the Amazon facility 3638 02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:30,400 is not hitting the tax roll for the 3639 02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:32,480 general tax roll next year, this will 3640 02:07:32,480 --> 02:07:34,480 really provide relief, and this is a 3641 02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:38,480 much more sustainable percentage than 3642 02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:43,560 85%, 87% just 10-15 years ago. Um so, 3643 02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:45,360 making sure that we kind of have that 3644 02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:47,240 diverse tax base to to spread out the 3645 02:07:47,240 --> 02:07:48,400 cost. 3646 02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:51,240 Um kind of if we're looking at our next 3647 02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:54,160 budget meetings, um 3648 02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:56,400 with the budget update, um the financial 3649 02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:58,560 management plan will be presented um to 3650 02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:01,640 budget review committee on August 18th. 3651 02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:02,583 Um 3652 02:08:02,583 --> 02:08:03,160 >> [clears throat] 3653 02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:05,640 >> And then come here to Village Board on 3654 02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:08,760 September 8th. Um so, right now that net 3655 02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,360 new construction is being factored in. 3656 02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:14,160 Um so, what what we'll end up doing, um 3657 02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:16,040 you know, is bringing forward a a plan 3658 02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:18,400 that's consistent with the 3659 02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:20,800 capital prioritization plan. 3660 02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:23,880 Um And again, start it starting off with 3661 02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:26,200 being conservative on the unspent debt 3662 02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:27,800 proceeds, but knowing that that will 3663 02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:30,640 likely get added back in Um 3664 02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,680 probably closer to that September 8th 3665 02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:34,920 just with the way deadlines are due 3666 02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:36,800 but make sure that we're describing that 3667 02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:39,480 process. 3668 02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:41,680 Any other questions I'll I'll kind of 3669 02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:43,040 loop those both in with the quarterly 3670 02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:45,240 report or 3671 02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:47,760 budget process update cuz we're going to 3672 02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:52,230 meet every day in September and October. 3673 02:08:52,240 --> 02:08:57,790 » Questions for Cameron. 3674 02:08:57,800 --> 02:08:58,600 Paula. 3675 02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:00,880 >> Um so 3676 02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:03,240 do you expect any departments to kind of 3677 02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:07,080 run over budget year-end and 3678 02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:09,520 you know do we need to like are we going 3679 02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:12,280 to get more budget amendments? 3680 02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:14,600 I know it's forecasting so 3681 02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:17,720 >> So you'll get So I anticipate a larger 3682 02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:19,280 So the next budget amendment that will 3683 02:09:19,280 --> 02:09:21,000 be coming forward is primarily TID 3684 02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:23,280 based. So it will chew up kind of all 3685 02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:26,840 the final TID related activity. 3686 02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:30,160 I do anticipate there being a budget 3687 02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:33,680 amendment for recommendation of 3688 02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:36,640 essentially unrestricted reserves. 3689 02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:39,320 So once we kind of have a clarified area 3690 02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:41,280 of where the general fund's going to end 3691 02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:42,720 up there might be a budget amendment 3692 02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:44,360 recommending either a transfer to debt 3693 02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:48,240 service or capital project fund. There 3694 02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:50,240 could be 3695 02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:53,990 um 3696 02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:57,160 Right now everything else is tracking 3697 02:09:57,160 --> 02:09:58,880 but interest income is one that is 3698 02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:01,920 likely going to be end up more favorable 3699 02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:05,080 than than anticipated. I think 3700 02:10:05,080 --> 02:10:08,240 we avoided a lot of the capital project 3701 02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:10,760 change orders. So I'm not really worried 3702 02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:12,640 about diving in there. We're sitting 3703 02:10:12,640 --> 02:10:14,240 really good in our building maintenance 3704 02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:16,680 fund. 3705 02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,390 Um 3706 02:10:19,400 --> 02:10:20,240 Yeah. 3707 02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:23,200 So doing doing really well right now. 3708 02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:24,840 >> And I know our legal fees are kind of 3709 02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:27,920 trending over budget. Is that mostly 3710 02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:29,680 court driven or 3711 02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:32,800 >> So, yeah, um municipal courts I got is 3712 02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:35,720 always one that 3713 02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:37,840 it's a little bit easier because there's 3714 02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:39,760 typically corresponding revenue that 3715 02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:43,560 offsets the municipal court cost. Um 3716 02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:46,360 the cost for municipal court is trending 3717 02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:48,240 a little high compared to where it is 3718 02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:50,520 mostly because of a relatively large 3719 02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:53,840 January invoice. Um the general legal 3720 02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:55,520 line that's sitting in the under 3721 02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:57,280 financial and professional services is 3722 02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,360 actually sitting because it's aggregated 3723 02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:01,040 with a whole bunch of other professional 3724 02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:03,360 services. There's things that have come 3725 02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:05,400 significantly less than budgeted. So, 3726 02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:08,760 that line should be okay um 3727 02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:10,720 just depending on the the rest of the 3728 02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:13,720 year if there's any major issues. Um 3729 02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:15,520 definitely something I I put some 3730 02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:18,000 thought from a budget perspective like 3731 02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:21,240 should we be beefing up like ordinances 3732 02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:23,400 or you know, trying to pull things out 3733 02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:25,080 so like kind of the board has a better 3734 02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:26,920 feel of what funds are available for 3735 02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:28,720 certain initiatives 3736 02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:30,200 um and kind of proactively planning as 3737 02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:32,160 part of that budget process. But, yeah, 3738 02:11:32,160 --> 02:11:33,480 um 3739 02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:35,240 we should be okay on the professional 3740 02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:38,070 services. 3741 02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:40,240 » I can just give a little comment on the 3742 02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:43,120 prosecution as well because 3743 02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:47,440 the January [clears throat] invoice like Cameron mentioned was higher, but 3744 02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:50,080 that was because we had sort of a 3745 02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:51,880 rare event where we had to go do a 3746 02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:53,440 circuit court trial. 3747 02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:56,520 Um so, there's just added expense with 3748 02:11:56,520 --> 02:11:59,520 having to go to circuit court. So, 3749 02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:01,040 that was 3750 02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:03,040 in the five years that we've represented 3751 02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:04,600 the village, I don't know if we we've 3752 02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:06,640 maybe had one other one. So, they're a 3753 02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:09,040 rare event, but 3754 02:12:09,040 --> 02:12:10,640 they do happen if we're not able to 3755 02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:13,000 resolve it. And like Aaron mentioned, 3756 02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:15,240 it's kind of hard to tell. I mean, if 3757 02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,760 a lot of tickets are written and they um 3758 02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:20,280 we have a lot of people contesting them. 3759 02:12:20,280 --> 02:12:21,720 I mean I just 3760 02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:23,880 it's hard to really judge how the the 3761 02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:25,800 municipal court 3762 02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:28,400 how that will go year over year. 3763 02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:29,920 >> And I'll say this a million times, no 3764 02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:31,720 one ever makes money on municipal court, 3765 02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:33,080 no matter how many tickets, how many 3766 02:12:33,080 --> 02:12:34,640 parking tickets, it's not a revenue 3767 02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:37,120 generator. 3768 02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:39,600 We're lucky to break even on municipal 3769 02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:42,160 court. You 3770 02:12:42,160 --> 02:12:44,160 know, Rick and I talked to about some 3771 02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:47,040 efficiencies and in municipal court, you 3772 02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:49,440 know, possibly if there's another avenue 3773 02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:53,840 that is more prosecutor focused, 3774 02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:55,120 something that could be explored as 3775 02:12:55,120 --> 02:12:56,680 well. And I appreciate that that 3776 02:12:56,680 --> 02:12:59,600 recommendation, Rick. 3777 02:12:59,600 --> 02:13:03,150 >> Any other comments for Cameron? 3778 02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:04,400 All right. 3779 02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:05,560 Communication and miscellaneous 3780 02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:07,800 business, discuss approval of vouchers, 3781 02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:10,680 bills list in the agenda. 3782 02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:15,470 Any discussion on the bills list? 3783 02:13:15,480 --> 02:13:18,000 Otherwise, we'll move on to 10 A 1, 3784 02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:21,560 consider approval of vouchers. 3785 02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:25,120 >> Move approval of vouchers as presented. 3786 02:13:25,120 --> 02:13:25,840 >> Second. 3787 02:13:25,840 --> 02:13:27,760 >> Motion by Murphy, second by Severson. 3788 02:13:27,760 --> 02:13:30,760 Any debate on the motion? 3789 02:13:30,760 --> 02:13:32,440 All those in favor? 3790 02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:33,400 Aye. 3791 02:13:33,400 --> 02:13:37,000 Opposed? Abstain? Motion carries. 3792 02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:39,120 Correspondence. 3793 02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:40,640 Anyone have anything? 3794 02:13:40,640 --> 02:13:43,960 >> You betcha. We held a public information 3795 02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:46,640 session on the storm water utility. 3796 02:13:46,640 --> 02:13:48,480 I have seen a fair amount of questions 3797 02:13:48,480 --> 02:13:49,920 kind of come up. We're planning on 3798 02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:52,400 putting Q&A together. We'll add that to 3799 02:13:52,400 --> 02:13:54,120 the board. Didn't want to be too far 3800 02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:55,640 ahead of it cuz obviously the board 3801 02:13:55,640 --> 02:13:57,320 hasn't heard the any presentations on 3802 02:13:57,320 --> 02:13:59,080 this yet, but we'll work on getting some 3803 02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:00,280 Q&A 3804 02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:01,520 frequently 3805 02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:02,880 questions and answers added to the 3806 02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:04,320 website. 3807 02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:06,400 Certainly forward any questions that you 3808 02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:12,550 have have to us as as I they come. 3809 02:14:12,560 --> 02:14:13,600 » Anyone else have anything for 3810 02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:16,560 correspondence? 3811 02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:21,430 Upcoming community events. 3812 02:14:21,440 --> 02:14:23,200 » Community night out, 3813 02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:24,960 August 19th, 3814 02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:27,360 5:00 to 8:00. Come on out and see your 3815 02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:30,110 neighbors. 3816 02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:34,800 » Rockin' at Bacon is August 27th from 3817 02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:38,080 food carts at 5:30, uh music from 6:00 3818 02:14:38,080 --> 02:14:41,030 to 8:00. 3819 02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:43,280 » And then the library board's final music 3820 02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:46,080 in the grove with Angela Porta uh is 3821 02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:48,320 happening on 3822 02:14:48,320 --> 02:14:50,480 uh Thursday, August 20th at 6:00 p.m. in 3823 02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:53,400 Dublin Park. 3824 02:14:53,400 --> 02:14:55,880 And then lastly, we established this 3825 02:14:55,880 --> 02:14:59,160 past week um October 1st will be the 3826 02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:01,440 budget listening session. We have one 3827 02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:03,600 morning session from 3828 02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:06,040 um 11:30 to 1:00 and then an evening 3829 02:15:06,040 --> 02:15:08,320 session from 5:30 to 7:00. Again, that's 3830 02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:11,120 October 1st. Um and then we have the 3831 02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:13,160 budget feedback form already available 3832 02:15:13,160 --> 02:15:15,680 on the website um for suggestions. So, 3833 02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:17,480 please if you you know, you're talking 3834 02:15:17,480 --> 02:15:19,800 to residents, have them fill out fill 3835 02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:24,230 that out because that really helps. 3836 02:15:24,240 --> 02:15:25,880 » Okay. 3837 02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:28,800 Future agenda items. Uh we'll have 3838 02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:31,360 Rick's going to be busy cuz we have the 3839 02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:33,360 uh landfill amendments, 3840 02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:35,080 um the minimum parking requirement 3841 02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:37,320 language, the ESB policy for service 3842 02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:40,520 animals, and the MOU for the prop. 3843 02:15:40,520 --> 02:15:42,160 >> And the housing bill presentation. 3844 02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:44,000 >> Oh, and housing bill presentation. 3845 02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:45,160 >> Just so you didn't forget about that, 3846 02:15:45,160 --> 02:15:45,400 right? 3847 02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:47,520 >> Yep. And then we also have the edited 3848 02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:49,440 handbook coming back for approval um at 3849 02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:51,800 a future meeting. Other future agenda 3850 02:15:51,800 --> 02:15:53,680 items. 3851 02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:55,840 >> Um as a follow-up to the Civic, I'd like 3852 02:15:55,840 --> 02:16:00,800 to um discuss like the deductible um 3853 02:16:00,800 --> 02:16:03,680 the thousand versus 2500. 3854 02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:05,720 >> Uh we can put like a little presentation 3855 02:16:05,720 --> 02:16:07,880 together next. Just a it's not going to 3856 02:16:07,880 --> 02:16:09,000 be a super It's just going to be a 3857 02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:11,120 here's the options at different premium 3858 02:16:11,120 --> 02:16:13,040 levels at different deductible levels 3859 02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:14,240 for the next more meeting. 3860 02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:15,840 >> Can you put that under your finance 3861 02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:16,920 director 3862 02:16:16,920 --> 02:16:17,440 agenda? 3863 02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:20,760 >> We can put it under our HR 3864 02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:23,120 communication manager update. I'm going 3865 02:16:23,120 --> 02:16:25,120 to I'm going to delegate. 3866 02:16:25,120 --> 02:16:27,160 >> All right. 3867 02:16:27,160 --> 02:16:30,280 Otherwise, we can move on to number 11. 3868 02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:33,669 Motion to adjourn. 3869 02:16:33,679 --> 02:16:34,760 » Second. 3870 02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:36,840 >> Mark and JP, non-debatable. All those in 3871 02:16:36,840 --> 02:16:37,480 favor? 3872 02:16:37,480 --> 02:16:38,800 >> Aye. 3873 02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:41,519 >> Thanks, everyone.