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» Penny, we're just going to give it
another minute and see if

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anyone else
is pulling up here. But, we do have

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quorum, so we'll be able to have the
meeting.

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» Okay.

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» All right. Well, um
we'll see if anybody else joins us a

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little bit late, but we might as well
get going since we have quorum. Uh it's

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5:05. I'll call the Parks, Recreation,
and Forestry Committee meeting to order.

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It's Wednesday, August 26th, 2026.
Um we do have a quorum and the agenda

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was properly posted. It's a hybrid
meeting taking place both on Zoom and

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here in Village Hall.
Then we can move to item three, public

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appearances. Public's opportunity to
speak about any subject that is not a

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specific agenda item.
Um Charlie, we do have you for item

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five. Do you want to talk then? We'll
just talk during that portion. Does that

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sound okay?
>> At your pleasure.

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» Okay. I don't think it'll take us real
long to get to item five, so.

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All right. Uh then
uh item four, discuss and consider the

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minutes of the Parks, Recreation, and
Forestry Committee meeting on July 23rd,

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2026.
Any edits um or comments or a motion on

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the minutes?
>> Motion to approve the minutes.

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» Thank you, Jerry.
>> Second.

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» And second by Penny. Thank you. Any
further discussion?

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Hearing none, all those in favor say
aye.

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Aye.
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» Any opposed? Any abstained? Motion
carries. Thank you. Then um up to item

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five, the cottonwood tree update. Um
I don't know if we'll do Sean can

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present his memo and then Charlie if you
want to come up and we can have

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discussion about that. Charlie did fill
out a wish to speak form

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for that item. So
Sean if you want to kick off your memo

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that you prepared for us, please.
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Great. We also do have James here too.
So if we have any cottonwood questions

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as we get into things. Um
I put a rather lengthy memo in your

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packet. Um hopefully everybody's read
that verbatim.

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But I I just wanted to kind of just
highlight the memo a little bit rather

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than go through it
word for word. So I'll just kind of I'll

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do that right now. Um obviously the the
purpose of this is to evaluate evaluate

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the management options available for
mature cottonwood trees in the village.

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And you know with James and I kind of
looking at things, we estimate that

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there are less than about 50 cottonwood
trees in the village, most around

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private property and in slash near
retention areas. So we we currently do

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not have any cottonwood street trees.
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obviously the cottonwood is a native
Wisconsin tree species for recognized

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for its rapid growth, broad canopy, and
environmental benefits. Female trees

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produce cottonwood seeds
during late spring and early summer that

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are commonly perceived as a nuisance
because they accumulate on sidewalks,

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lawns, streets, and park facilities.
Although the seasonal cottonwood can

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generate complaints, the cotton itself
is generally a maintenance issue rather

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than a public safety concern.
Decisions regarding these trees should

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therefore be based on
on overall tree health, structural

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integrity, maintenance costs, and and
risk to the public rather than solely on

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seed production.
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again apologize for the lengthy um memo,
but I wanted to make sure that you guys

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had some options to look at and I tried
to lay those out the best that I could.

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Um so if If do nothing
um and just kind of leave things the way

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that they are, um the advantage to the
that is it preserves a mature preserves

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a mature tree that provides significant
shade and aesthetic value.

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Continues to provide environmental
benefits including carbon sequestration,

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which is capturing the CO2 from the
atmosphere, storm water interception,

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air quality,
and wildlife habitat. Maintains existing

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landscape character, avoids removal
expense. Mature trees provide

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ecological benefits, more ecological
benefits than newly planted trees.

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Disadvantages to doing nothing, annual
production of cotton seed can create a

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nuisance conditions in parks, streets,
sidewalks, and residential areas. And

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also disadvantage would be increased
maintenance. So those are just kind of

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the highlights of the do nothing.
Option two is treat and maintain.

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Advantages, it extends the useful life
of the tree, reduces the likelihood of

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branch failures through proactive
maintenance, protects the community's

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investment in mature tree canopy, delays
significant expense of a removal and

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replacement. Um
and that would allow for ongoing

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evaluation as as tree conditions change.
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So if we if we wanted to require
treatment, it is a recurring thing, it's

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not a one-time cost.
And the treatment does not eliminate the

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cottonwood production, it just reduces
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wanted to do tree removal, so asked that
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removed. Advantages, biggest biggest
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cottonwood production and associated
maintenance.

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Removes safety concerns with declining
trees, reduces long-term liability

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associated with maintaining an aging
tree. Disadvantages, the immediate

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removal costs are high. Likely $3,000
roughly on a mature mature tree.

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Um the loss of shade and then the
reduction in wildlife habitat.

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Um municipal considerations, uh things
that I just wanted to throw in there,

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the village has a responsibility to
maintain public trees in a manner that

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protects public safety while preserving
the long-term health health and value of

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the forest urban forest. While
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inconvenient, it is generally not
sufficient justification by itself for

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removing
a healthy tree. Decisions should instead

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be based on objective criteria such as
structural conditions, public safety,

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maintenance requirements, site
restraints,

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uh and then the overall life expectancy.
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If we wanted to address this
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um
um adopting an ordinance that

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specifically regulates female cottonwood
trees um from everything that I've seen

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and and folks that I've talked to is is
generally not recommended. Species

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specific ordinances can create
enforcement challenges, increase costs

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to property owners, and encourage
removal of healthy healthy trees that

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continue to provide significant public
benefits. Cotton production is a natural

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characteristic of the species and and
does not by itself

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constitute a hazardous condition.
Instead, municipalities typically

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regulate trees through broader tree
maintenance and public safety ordinances

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that apply equally to all trees. And so,
what we kind of already do is we refer

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to ordinance 294 three and then uh D
which addresses hazardous private trees,

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requires property owners to maintain
maintain trees

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so they do not create hazards to the
public. The ordinance uh addresses dead

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or dying trees, trees with structural
defects, trees interfering with sidewalk

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streets, utilities, or public
infrastructure, and uh authority for the

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village to require pruning or removal
after inspection. So, which is those are

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all things that we do James does on a
daily basis that we're, you know,

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constantly addressing any any hazard
trees that are out there and and a good

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example is we we just sent a letter to
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homeowner. What what's that daycare on
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Um
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» Yeah, right right right across from
Cottage Grove School. There were some

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trees hanging down branches hanging
down. We sent them a letter. They cut

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them they cut them off. Everything's is
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Um
Public tree planting policy rather than

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regulating existing cottonwoods the
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future planting of female cottonwood
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Um the policy could include uh approved
street tree list which we do have and

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cottonwoods are not specifically called
out. Correct, James?

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» They're not on the list.
Excuse me, they're not on the list, but

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we can put them on the prohibited list.
We can add that.

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» Um
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criteria based on maintenance
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replacement standard for trees that are
removed. Um this allows the village to

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gradually diversify its urban forest
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um healthy trees.
So, and then my recommendation based on

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what I saw, what I who I talked to, what

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I read,
um was basically um

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if we wish to reduce future main
maintenance concerns with cottonwood

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trees, the preferred long-term strategy
is to adopt an urban forestry policy

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that discourages future planting of
female cottonwood trees on municipal

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property while maintaining a diverse,
resilient, um sustainable public tree

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canopy.
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it is recommended based on available
information, um it is recommended that

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the village continue to evaluate female
cottonwood trees individually rather

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than adopting a specific or
species-specific ordinance.

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So, in a nutshell
that's the that's the information that I

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came up with. So, again, I wanted to
provide the committee with some possible

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options. Um obviously, those are not all
of the options. Uh you guys can think of

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something different, but
um open to questions, thoughts

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based on
my memo.

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and I was wondering, James, was there
anything else you want to add

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from that on your daily work?
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the committee that we do not have any
cottonwood trees in the boulevards

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within the public right-of-ways.
Where we have them is in the drainages,

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retention areas. So,
what we want to consider is access

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um in identifying these trees, cuz
access will be difficult. And removals,

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these are big trees,
may need to be contracted out to take

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down if removal is an option
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» Thank you. Um questions?
>> Question for James, are there

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other than willow trees, which comes to
mind, are there other trees to fill the

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need of what you just described in those
wetland areas, you know, where you want

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to maybe help that tree take care of
some of the over-flooding challenges and

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things like that? Are there other
species of trees that are desirable to

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plant in those wetland kind of areas
that would be beneficial, or for the

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most part, no?
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depending on how well these areas are
drained, you could go to certain oak

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trees. Um
more beneficial, lower maintenance. Um

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yeah, the cottonwoods need to be checked
on versus

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from breaking apart in storms. Um
willows, as well. We've had issues with

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Willows and the retention areas that
have fallen apart and we're in there too

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often
to to deal with those.

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So, there are other options if we had to
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» And that would bring up a budget part of
things too. It's like if we were going

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to cut those down and want to replace
that's obviously an additional expense.

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Um,
out of that 50 James, what do you think

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how many of those 50 would you guess are
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You know, can you know, obviously our
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the most
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if we include thorough examination of
what we have out there. I think Thaden

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is a big area that could have
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I would say we have at least 50 on
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drainages and retention areas
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private property. So, the 50 number is
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» Thank you. Charlie, if you want to come
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thanks for bringing this item forward
for discussion and I appreciate you

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being here
tonight to help us continue that.

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» So, I'm Charlie Rogers. I live on Old
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And the whole start of this was never to
remove all the cottonwood trees in

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Cottage Grove. That was never even
discussed or brought forward.

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All of the ordinance that I supplied to
you guys were all what are considered

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complaint driven.
Meaning if there's a problem, excuse me,

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then a complaint is filed and then the
solutions are either treated or

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something else.
And that's something that we're dealing

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with in my neighborhood, okay?
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the
public nuisance we understand quite

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well.
But the thing that I want to stress

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tonight is the flammability of this
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Um
during Fireman's Festival, which is the

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peak shedding time for these trees,
there is anywhere from 3 to 5 in of

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can I say fluff, or do I have to call it
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» We know fluff.
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depends on the season because they go
through cycles. Some years are better,

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some years are worse. Um anywhere from 3
to 5 in of this fluff

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in the parking lot behind my house and
on our property also.

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Um somebody throws a cigarette butt down
and Heidi hopefully has the a video that

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we can show you about the flammability
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Uh it's not
not it's very lethal, okay?

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Um and we're not you know, like I said,
we're not asking James to be the police,

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tree police, and go out looking for
trees.

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All we're asking for is a
complaint-driven

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ordinance to say, we have a problem,
here is how we solve the remedy, okay?

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You either treat your tree or remove it.
Okay? Um because it is a fire hazard.

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Okay?
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and the
it's a mechanism before it has to go to

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like a legal situation, which none of us
want. I mean, we're we're working with

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our neighbor to
if she can't or I if they can't afford

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it, we're willing to help them, okay? Uh
you know, we're not bad neighbors, but

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it's a situation where
and I don't know, Heidi, do you want to

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put that up, the flammable part?
But imagine the liability that would

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happen if someone threw a cigarette butt
down in these 3 to 5 in of fluff with

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all the cars parked there
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And then I'll I'll finish, too, is as
far as the cost to implement this

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um is minimal to to none. And again, if
there was a complaint in a course, there

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would be a small cost for James to go
out or the paperwork to be filed. But,

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as far as the cost would be minimal to
the village

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in my opinion.

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And again, it uh
on the uh municipal considerations

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con
consist cons

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causes a hazardous condition.

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I'll emphasize that. Causes a hazardous
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And hopefully the
And again, I don't know if if any of you

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watched the videos that I asked you to
last meeting.

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it's not

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a little.
It's an explosive

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flame.

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I don't know I don't know whether the
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just
check out my sound of

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Now, this is
>> I gathered a bucket of cotton and this

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will demonstrate how flammable the
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This is in my fireplace, my fireplace.
Jesus.

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» Imagine the parking lot of that.

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Or a neighborhood.
>> I've gathered a bucket of cotton and

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this will demonstrate how flammable the
cotton is. This is in my fireplace.

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» Jesus.

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» Tell my wife.
My wife actually did a small experiment

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in the backyard along the fence line
thinking it would be a small little

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flame and this this was only like 3 in.
That's of course an exaggeration. Um,

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and it
freaked her out. Luckily she had water

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available to put it out, but it just
took off.

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Um, and again,
you have a festival, you have a parking

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lot full of cars, and you got 3 or 5 in
of that.

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That can
consist consider be a hazard of

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condition in my opinion.
So, um, I would just ask you to

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reconsider.
Um, minimally I would like to have an

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ordinance that says you can't plant
female cottonwoods. Like

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Madison's had one for 50 years.
Um, ideally I'd like a complaint driven

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ordinance.

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And again, I appreciate you guys' time.
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and again, it's to me it's a safety
hazard. It's not a nuisance anymore,

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it's a safety hazard. Okay? Thank you.

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» Thanks, Charlie.
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so, uh,

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Sean, did you have any chance to talk to
legal about our current ordinance and

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how
maybe specific situations, you know,

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given proximity to,
you know, high traffic type events that

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maybe it is more of a um,

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a hazardous nuisance or like how how can
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apply that ordinance
for various situations, I guess.

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» Overall, legal wants us to stay out of
private tree issues as much as we can.

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Um we
we typically now address hazards that

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are going to fall that could fall onto
into the right-of-way,

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onto a car or, you know, into the
street, sidewalk, that that those

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situations. Typically, if it's a private
tree and it looks like it's dead in the

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backyard, we we don't get involved in
those. I think we have um on a couple of

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occasions where it was very imminent
that it could fall on a

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um
on another property, but um

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overall, their suggestion is that we
kind of stay out of that. Um we could

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James, I think we could simply we could
add this to the prohibited street tree

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list as James as James mentioned. Um
that really would only give us govern

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and governance on the street tree. I
don't know we would have to we would

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have to definitely change the ordinance
to make it so that they couldn't do it

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as a private street tree. James,
anything to add to that?

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» Um I would
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getting it on the prohibited list and
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if
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trees being planted on private property
and something doesn't look right

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and I can I would need something to cite
that, you know, that can't be planted

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even on private on the private side of
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I just need clarification on that.
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what I can enforce, so to speak.
>> To Charlie's point about that, that

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feels like that's making you be the tree
police. That seems like you have a lot

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of other things going on and that that
would be a real

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challenge to go around peeking in
backyards and

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» And
also to go with what Charlie said is

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that
this would be complaint driven, you

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know, so that we're not going to ask I
don't think we would ever ask James to

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just go drive around and look for
cottonwood trees, but more like if the

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neighbors are you know, if there's a
complaint driven then if there is a

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complaint then it gives us an
opportunity to to do something. We don't

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have anybody in the village that does
any you know, sidewalk inspections or um

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uh
uh long grass all of that stuff is

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complaint driven. So that that could be
the same type of a situation. We could

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absolutely do that for sure.

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» So that would be more not just add cuz
that's an easier administrative thing to

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add them to the prohibited street tree
list because that's not an ordinance,

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but if we wanted to create no new
plantings

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then that would need ordinance, right?
>> I believe so since we don't currently I

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think it could be
added to the nuisance ordinance that's

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already there. We could just add another
line I again I don't know exactly how

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that works on the legal end of things,
but we could certainly add it to that or

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we would have to create its own section,
but

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adding it to the to the street tree list
is an easy one because our ordinance

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currently states that it's a fluid
document and if somebody wants a copy of

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it they have to contact me because we
are changing that and James you know,

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James will chime in and say hey no, we
can't we can't have this one on the list

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anymore. So that's an that's an easy one
for sure to just put it on the

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prohibited list, but it doesn't Nobody I
mean are people actually planting

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cottonwood trees anymore? I mean
>> No, the nurseries

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don't offer them because to
municipalities in particular because we

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don't nobody wants them
in the public right-of-ways for the

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the hazard is they mature they just die.
That's what they do and they don't break

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apart from the top down, they they'll
break loose at the roots. So, they're

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just a known
hazardous tree once they mature and

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nobody wants to deal with them in the
public right-of-ways, so

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that's why the ones we we've identified
are all within the drainages, retention

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areas
where they're kind of out of the way and

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they they're old older trees.
>> Sure, they're not in an area that they

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drop a branch and someone walking or a
car or something along those lines which

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yeah, street trees.
>> I discussed with Shawn, we do have some

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on private side of the Door Creek
drainage through Community Park that

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could fall into the park. So, that's
something I would be watching at

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watching and I I do monitor that edge
cuz we're always removing some trees

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that kind of fall limbs that fall into
the park.

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So.
>> Okay, so that

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kind of covers that aspect of safety and
I'm glad Kevin's here now too because

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maybe he's heard some things from the
fire side about fire hazards of

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Use your There's some on the Yep, thank
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» Yeah, I'm sorry. We really don't talk
about that type of stuff. It's so few

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and far between. In fact, when Charlie
pointed it out, it kind of shocked me as

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much cotton as there was. But I do agree
with Shawn and with the forester as far

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as putting them on the prohibited list
and kind of placing it like on the on

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the complaint basis just like tall grass
and stuff like that. No no no a nuisance

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item.

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» Um
Are there questions, thoughts?

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» One thing in my travels of trying to
collect information

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I was looking for a tree service to to
call and I

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Google it and I picked the one that said
save a tree because I like save a tree.

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And I just so happen to get
talked to the the arborist that is

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actually treating the tree um next to
Charlie's. And so that's where I got a

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little bit of the information as far as
the cost and things go. So I believe

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Charlie that they're are they at least
sounds like they have plans to treat

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that tree?
>> Uh we have not heard back.

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» Okay.
>> Like I said, we're still offering to

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help if she needs or if they need it.

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But again,
the last conversation

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we had with her,
um

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they were going to do it but it's a
spring treatment. It's not a a fall

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thing.
>> Yep.

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» Um
so

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again,
I'm I'm trying to solve a problem

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without having to go over the next step.
And as far as

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um wood trees
in the village,

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well,
that tree shed enough cotton wood to see

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that
I pulled cotton wood exactly out of my

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yard all year long.
So

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you don't have to
you don't have to buy it cuz you got a

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lot of wood shed.
And community park, your trees down

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there,
I know pickleball people came up to our

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park at Bicentennial because they
couldn't play down there. It was

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shedding so bad that they were getting
it in their mouths and stuff.

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All the rest. So
and that's a nuisance.

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That's not
That's not

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» Yeah.
>> In In talking with um the arborist from

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Save a Tree, he he also said the same
thing that Charlie did that cottonwood

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trees work uh
a

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along a similar cycle to what oak trees
work when it comes to dropping acorns.

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They work in
they fluctuate every year. About every 5

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years they have a max drop. And it could
have been this could have been the worst

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that it's been. Not saying that it's
right or wrong. It's just they work in

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cycles. Some years it's it's less than
others. Um

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And there's one other point that I
wanted to make but I don't remember what

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that was. So

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I'll come back to that.

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» I know during dry periods there's like
no burn

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orders that
Does Is there ever a

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something like that during cottonwood
season or is that No.

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Right. Yeah, that I mean Yeah, cigarette
butts can light up all sorts of stuff.

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Charlie was just giving us the timeline
for the trees for those of you online

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that
it lines up with festival time when it

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drops the seeds when there's the most
traffic and most people in the area and

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you know, kind of the highest
risk time it seemed you know, that the

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most traffic.
Peak. Yes. Peak of the park lines up

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with peak of the cottonwood.

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So I guess it seems we don't have like a
consideration. It's just cottonwood tree

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update but it seems like consensus is
definitely

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add to the prohibited street tree list
because that is like a no-cost

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administrative

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portion. Is that kind of
Is it Are we understanding that right?

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Doesn't
>> Yeah, I mean it's a great place to

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start. Put it on that list. That way in
case someone does call and say it's a

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nuisance, we can be like, "Well, it's on
our prohibited tree list and this is how

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we would take care of it." So, yeah.
I'm

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not sure if that gives us the ability to
address a private tree.

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Um that's where I think I mean we can
definitely put it on the the the street

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tree list, but we don't really have that
problem. That's not where the problem

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lies. The problem lies with the private
trees. So, I think that's where if we're

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looking to
>> Yeah.

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» I think we would have to do some sort of
an ordinance adjustment.

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» How does that work uh
putting that in alignment with someone

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that has like an unkempt yard, like long
grass, stuff like that? I mean, could we

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modify that ordinance or put it in with
that?

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» I believe that's the same nuisance
nuisance ordinance.

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» Nuisance
>> ordinance. Um and that's where I would

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have to just check with legal and and
see what we can do there. So, if that's

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the direction that you would like me to
go, then I can come back to you in at

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the during the September meeting and
tell you what that looks like.

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» Yep. Yep.
>> So, direction that that I'm just to make

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sure the direction that I'm hearing is
investigate whether we can add that to

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the current nuisance or what that would
look like to make it

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Are we looking to make it illegal?
>> No, not a not a legal tree.

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» A a cottonwood tree or how do we want
>> It it's it's more of a nuisance. So,

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like there's male trees and there's
female trees and there's ones that have

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that drop the the cotton and some that
don't. So, it's got to be more of a

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nuisance. If someone would call and
complain, then it can be addressed.

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» But then how are we addressing that?
That's what That's what we need to You

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know, it's like are we going to Are we
going to require Is the village part of

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this ordinance? Is the village going to
require either that it be treated or

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removed? Are would
>> Is that are those the two options that

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you guys are thinking?
>> Yeah, cuz if if they want to keep their

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tree then treat it. If they don't want
their tree then remove it.

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» So and and all that is based on a
complaint driven. So just in this

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example, Charlie comes to to me to us
and says, here we go, then we then we

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start taking taking a look at that tree.
Is that what you guys are thinking? I

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just want to make sure I'm clear.
>> 100%.

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» Jay?
>> Yes.

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» Yeah. And Penny or or Amy, anything to
add?

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» Um I'm a little
Oh, is that me? I have an echo. Um okay,

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just taking this to an extreme. What if
my lovely neighbor has a tree and they

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never rake and it's really dry and
there's 5 in of leaves that might pose

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maybe not as combustible but the same
type of um nuisance. I mean

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then what? Do we have to start really I
mean this is one specific tree

437
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:39,360
but there are other trees that could
cause the same type of situation. I just

438
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:44,160
want to be really careful that we don't
you know, become this weird HOA type of

439
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:52,920
community where I'm going to complain
and you have to treat and I don't know.

440
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,920
I'm just hesitant about jumping to that.

441
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,920
» Thanks, Penny.
Um

442
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,760
Amy?
Do you have any I just want to make sure

443
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,360
that we
get everybody online that

444
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,160
wants to add in.

445
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:25,480
Um cuz it's yeah, it's I just want to
make sure we get an opportunity for

446
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:29,160
everyone. I mean that that is um
that is an interesting point because

447
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:33,200
different trees can pose, you know,
different types

448
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:37,360
of hazards.
Um, you know, things drop, things that

449
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,680
are poisonous for
dogs or

450
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:47,240
Yeah, that that does kind of it
opening up the door on

451
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:54,800
you know, what constitutes a hazard, I
guess, is um

452
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,640
an interesting way to um
to look at it.

453
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:05,960
But also recognizing that, you know,
that

454
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,960
the fluff is quite um flammable.

455
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:17,040
I mean, we could take it to the
village board and get, you know, them to

456
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:22,720
weigh in also
and give us some

457
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:25,520
additional information or
direction.

458
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,120
» Yeah, I I mean, the

459
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:36,080
That one. Yeah, sorry. I I I mean, the
fluff is flammable, just like Penny

460
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:39,200
says. Everyone has trees, they all drop
leaves. Leaves are flammable, too.

461
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,520
Um,
but this is a little different, I think,

462
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:47,360
as far as cottonwoods go. We're trying
to eliminate cottonwoods for reasons.

463
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:51,400
Um, and there's a way to treat them so
that they don't drop their cotton.

464
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,920
Uh, every other tree that drops leaves,
you can't treat them so they don't drop

465
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:59,040
their leaves. It's kind of a different
situation. This is more of a

466
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:03,600
trying to
put a leash on the cottonwood issue.

467
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,080
Uh
And I don't think it would be like

468
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,640
people's leaves falling in their
neighbor's property.

469
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:14,400
Uh, because there's actually an avenue
to treat this as far as treating the

470
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:17,600
tree to eliminate the cotton. That's
kind of the way I look at it.

471
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:30,200
It's kind of our next steps,
um

472
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:34,200
we could have
kind of a

473
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,920
ask the village board or report up to
the village board and just see if they

474
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,360
have any feedback
and ask

475
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:44,840
the legal team what that might look like
in a ordinance and how much that might

476
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:48,480
cost. I don't know if we can authorize
the cost for an ordinance or if that has

477
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,640
to go through public hearing at plan
commission also. I'm not sure where it

478
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,760
lies in ordinance or if the village
board I mean obviously the village board

479
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,120
would have to approve an ordinance
change also.

480
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,720
» I guess to add to what I already saying
I I would like to first hear the like

481
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,520
the legal
piece of that and for them to be able to

482
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:12,080
share with us
maybe addressing some of what Penny's

483
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:15,000
saying does that then apply to
all these other things that could happen

484
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:21,280
that somebody could say, "Oh, you know,
their dried grass because it's 4 ft tall

485
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:24,120
is flammable and you know."
So I think to get some guidance from our

486
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,000
legal
folk would be first step. I don't I feel

487
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,760
like
the village board might have the same

488
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:35,240
kind of debate and discussion as we will
and come to similar

489
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,120
kind of conclusions. So I feel like
we're the park rec and forestry group

490
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,560
they want us to come up with a
recommendation and I feel like we can do

491
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,960
that.
Um so I but I would think I would first

492
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:50,160
just like to see what a legal
Okay.

493
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,720
» Yeah, I I I feel the same way.
>> Yeah, I feel like let's

494
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:58,200
let me tie this all together
and um I can address the

495
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:02,440
the ordinance part of things in the memo
as well and you know, present the whole

496
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,960
thing to the board. I think I feel like
that they would just say the same thing

497
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,680
that let's get more information, you
know, when it comes to that ordinance

498
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,320
part of things and
and then

499
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:15,000
to at the village board meeting we will
have legal present as well. So if

500
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:19,640
there's any outlying questions that
happen, you know, during that discussion

501
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:23,520
they can chime in at that point. So, um
if everybody's good with it, then that's

502
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,960
what I'll do. I'll get I'll just
continue to get information on what that

503
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,360
ordinance looks like and what that
entails and

504
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:35,240
you know, if they feel like
this is a a good thing to try and force,

505
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:39,920
you know, to try and force through is is
just see what their general

506
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,920
temperature is.

507
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:48,640
» Okay. Other direction for Shawn on next
steps here.

508
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Okay. All right. If nothing else, then
it looks like we'll get some more

509
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,880
information again and
and

510
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:04,200
it's good it's a spring treatment um
time frame cuz we have some more time to

511
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:09,080
figure out how this um might look for
us.

512
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:13,760
Yeah. Thank you, Charlie.
Anything else on this item?

513
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:19,120
All right. Then we can move to uh Shady
Grove Park update.

514
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:23,200
» Yeah, Shady Grove is done uh with the
exception of we're still working through

515
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:26,080
some electrical things um just to get
power

516
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:30,120
into the shelter and then power to the
AED. There is currently not an AED in

517
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:33,800
there yet, but that's because we we
don't have power in there. That that

518
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:39,440
that that will be addressed here in the
next week or so and so then the park

519
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:45,280
will be completely finished and
ready to roll. So, we're in a good spot.

520
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:48,360
Happy that this one's done.
>> I drove by the other day and there were

521
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:53,800
about four families there playing, so
it's great. Um questions for Shawn on

522
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,800
Shady Grove Park.

523
00:41:53,960 --> 00:42:01,400
All right. Then we'll keep moving to the
Juniper Fields Parkland update.

524
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:08,440
» So, had some initial discussion with uh
Strand and Blake from Park Architecture

525
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:14,280
um for the Juniper Fields and um
it it's looking like we will

526
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,400
yeah, the September meeting, Blake will
be here and we'll start to talk about

527
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:24,040
how that lays out and what we like with
that. So, he was pretty encouraged by

528
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:28,720
what was there um and what they designed
kind of we want to maybe tweak some

529
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:32,800
spots and maybe try and extend some some
green space as much as we can into the

530
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,520
hill kind of over by the pool, but um
overall I think we're in a we're in a

531
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,120
great place.
So, something to look forward to for

532
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:44,960
that budget meeting which will be in
September, but we'll we'll bring Blake

533
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,960
in and and kind of hammer that out.

534
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:51,000
» Great questions on the Juniper Fields
Parkland.

535
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:58,440
All right, then we'll keep going um item
eight discuss and consider Outlot five

536
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:04,120
signage. There are a couple of mock-ups
and quote estimate in the packet.

537
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:12,520
» Yeah, just let me pull that up quick so
I can

538
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,520
share the renderings with you.

539
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:21,880
Okay, I think Amy's on too, but we
talked about this a little bit at

540
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:27,680
previous meetings
and um let me just share, hopefully,

541
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,200
share the two items that we came up
with.

542
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,240
There we go.

543
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:45,240
Okay, so this was the first option.
Um

544
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:48,920
I don't know if I can make this any
bigger.

545
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:52,080
Um let me let me Can I clarify, Shawn,
is that the one that's considered the

546
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,400
larger sign?
>> Yes. Let me let me let me do the let me

547
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,360
try this
real quick to get you a better picture.

548
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:12,760
» While he's doing that, I'll just say
that um um

549
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:16,760
the verbage that's being used on the
sign is something that I put together

550
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:22,240
based on what I found through the
historical society, what I know, you

551
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,680
know, personally and from the neighbors
in that neighborhood,

552
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:29,960
um
and I tried to make it something that A,

553
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:34,880
Shawn and I discussed how the sign
should look so that it looks like other

554
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:40,640
signs, you know, in our village, but
also um I wanted to make sure that it

555
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:45,880
touched on the history of Cottage Grove
and more specifically the Fading Horse

556
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:50,440
Farm that was there, but also touched on
the conservancy and the different

557
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:53,960
wildlife that we have here in the
village and

558
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,480
you know, that makes their home in that
area.

559
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,880
» So,
as you can see in your screen, this is

560
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:08,320
the larger of the two signs. I'll just
show you quickly the smaller.

561
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:14,240
Um I really really I think Amy did a
great job with this and I really like

562
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:19,480
how this particular sign lays out um in
comparison. It's a bigger sign, so this

563
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:24,880
this sign would be um in size compare
comparison to uh the one at Bakken Park

564
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:29,600
or our larger parks, our larger park
signs. We have two different size signs.

565
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:35,560
Take uh Red Hawk, that is that is more
like it's even it's a little bit smaller

566
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:39,200
than that, but um the one that I like is
is it's going to be the larger sign. And

567
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,200
I just think it laid out really well. I
like the colors.

568
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:46,200
Um one thing I just want to make sure
we're okay with Horseshoe Park um in

569
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,000
calling it that,
um

570
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:55,080
but also just looking for a
recommendation. Uh I did put the two the

571
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:57,880
two costs in there. Um let me pull that
up. I don't remember what that was off

572
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:02,480
the top of my head.
>> 1,800 and 2,200.

573
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,560
» Yeah, 1,800.
Yeah.

574
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:09,760
So.
>> And Horseshoe Park obviously is an odd

575
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:15,000
to the Fading Horse Farm, but also where
that Outlot is specifically is the shape

576
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,000
of a horseshoe.

577
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,000
That does work out perfectly.
>> Do you want a motion, Shawn?

578
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:27,240
» Yeah, just
Uh, the smaller sign is 18 18. The

579
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,160
larger sign is 21 93. Just so that
that's

580
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,800
» Yeah, they're they're pretty comparable
in price, but I like the layout of the

581
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,840
larger sign. It's easier to read from
from the road.

582
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:40,200
So, my motion would be to go with the
larger sign.

583
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:44,560
» Second.
>> Motion motion and second. Um, further

584
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:50,760
discussion.
Um, what does the

585
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:54,600
budget look like for that? Or I think
maybe some people might have been

586
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:58,000
interested in contributing or how does
it look?

587
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:01,720
Um.
Or would this be something that we'd

588
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:05,600
build into the budget for next year and
install next year? I guess is

589
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:10,720
» Those are the two options. Yeah, I
currently I don't have $2,000 laying

590
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,920
around to do this right now. Um, I
thought there was some talk of possibly

591
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:18,480
donations, but if we don't have that
this year and and if we if we purchase

592
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:24,320
it we're looking at about 8 weeks to get
it. So, either

593
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:29,040
we try and do it in donations or it is a
budget proposal for for next year, which

594
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:32,240
I don't think that a $2,000 budget
proposal is going to be a big deal.

595
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:42,160
» Do we want to add on to the
motion or just give Shawn direction from

596
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:46,640
here on how we want to
work work on it?

597
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:52,440
» Do the Amy, is has there been any
push for conversations about donations

598
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,440
for the sign?

599
00:47:53,720 --> 00:48:02,440
» Um, I do have a neighbor that is willing
to

600
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:06,560
um donate some money. I was not sure on
the pricing of the signs.

601
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:12,040
Um
so I can't I can't give you a dollar

602
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:15,440
amount, but I think that they would
throw in a good amount

603
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,480
toward that.
So

604
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:23,320
» Yeah.
>> Um even if we could get half of it

605
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:28,520
I I haven't posed it to the neighborhood
yet because we hadn't

606
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:32,000
chosen the sign, but I feel like there
would be people in that neighborhood

607
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,760
willing to donate.
I could be wrong, but I know for sure

608
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,760
one of them has agreed to yes.
>> Yeah, I mean I'm one of your neighbors

609
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:42,720
and I probably would donate like 500
bucks to this

610
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,120
um just because it is really nice.
Uh but knocking on people's doors, I'm

611
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:52,080
sure we would we would get donations,
but if we sit on our heels the village

612
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:56,480
will pay for it next year, so.
Kind kind of the way to look at it.

613
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:00,840
Can Can you remind me and then the other
thing was I I forget where we were going

614
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:04,240
to place this.
>> Yeah, I don't think we came up with an

615
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,440
exact location, but I believe inside the
sidewalk.

616
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,360
Um just inside the sidewalk is where
what I would recommend, you know, a few

617
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:14,840
feet off so somebody doesn't hit it on a
bike or scooter, but then also not so

618
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,840
far in that it obstructs the green
space.

619
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:21,680
And I would rather not put it on the
between the sidewalk and the curb.

620
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:25,520
That's just it's more likely to be
damaged, snow plow, whatever in there,

621
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,680
so.
That's That would be what my thought

622
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,240
would be. Somewhere kind of Amy, I don't
know if you thought differently, but I

623
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:35,120
thought like somewhere right smack dab
in the middle, you know, between the two

624
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:38,240
houses on the on each side of it.
Um

625
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:41,960
that's what I envisioned.
>> Between the

626
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,320
Oh, no.
Cuz I thought when you and I first

627
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,600
talked
I don't think that's a good place only

628
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:52,280
because there's so many kids that go
there and play

629
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:57,240
they have running baseball games there
and kickball games. And so that would be

630
00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:02,440
kind of in where they play. So I was
thinking more toward the curve.

631
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,400
» I think we're we're talking about the
same thing, but I just I'll bring it up

632
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,400
here quick.
>> Okay.

633
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,120
» Just so that everyone
>> Probably cuz I know you and I went over

634
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,480
it and you put it where I would have put
it.

635
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:19,600
Maybe that is more toward the middle.
>> Yeah.

636
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:19,600
» it is kind of toward the

637
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,880
I think they got it.
>> I I don't know if we can place it

638
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:27,160
between the curb and the sidewalk.
Then it would be an obstruction if a car

639
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:32,360
would hit it.
>> No, the curve c u r v e

640
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:35,760
curve curve on the curve on the on the
turn on the

641
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:38,760
» Yeah, right where that cursor is.
>> Yeah, and I the A you what I was say I

642
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,640
don't know if you can see my cursor, but
I was thinking like somewhere

643
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,200
» Yep.
>> in this area here. So it'd be between

644
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:48,600
the between the sidewalk and the trees.
So not on the in the park row or in the

645
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,320
terrace. You know, somewhere in this
vicinity right here. It is a single

646
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:56,640
sided sign, so it would be facing the
street as opposed to you know,

647
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:59,600
perpendicular to the street. So that's
kind of the location that I was

648
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,520
» what I That's exactly what I was
thinking. Right there is I was saying

649
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,400
curve not curb.
>> Yep.

650
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:11,000
» c u r v e, so yes, on the curve. Yes.
Yep.

651
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:14,160
» So do now that we've kind of picked a
design and is it everybody is good with

652
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:15,920
the
>> We can vote on that.

653
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,360
» Oh, we haven't voted yet.
>> Right, we haven't voted on that part. Do

654
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:22,240
we want to add something for the
for the budget to that motion?

655
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:27,240
» a question?
>> Oh, yes, Penny, go ahead.

656
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:31,720
» Okay, so excuse my ignorance. I have not
been to this Dayton Natural Area, but

657
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,720
what you're showing on screen, do people
go in there and walk around?

658
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:44,200
Is that true? Is are there paths and
things for people to walk?

659
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:48,960
» No, there's there's an ATC clearance. It
is not a path. There's not paths back

660
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:52,640
there. That is a
That is incorrect.

661
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:59,160
» So
my question then is

662
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:06,000
naming it Horseshoe Park to me park
suggests a place that I can go

663
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:08,960
and do park things.
Um

664
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:14,120
I love the nod to the Horseshoe. I think
that part is awesome, but I'm just

665
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,360
thrown a little bit by the park. And
again, I haven't been into this

666
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:23,320
wonderful area, so
>> Horseshoe open space. I I mean it is

667
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:28,280
people use it as an open space park.
Like they play, like I said,

668
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:32,760
pick up kickball games and
they've go and hit some golf balls and

669
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:37,560
they
I don't know. We We fly kites out there.

670
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:41,480
» And people do use it for recreation
then.

671
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,080
» Yeah.
>> It's good.

672
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:48,000
» Yep.
>> I think and just to clarify Penny your

673
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:51,560
question that it's the part that's mowed
or the green space

674
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:56,160
is like the park area, but the
conservancy is like 20 acres, right?

675
00:52:53,640 --> 00:53:00,240
It's like that whole big area behind
that that that's not really accessible.

676
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,240
» Yeah.

677
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:08,400
» Yeah, this this whole area, if you can
see my cursor, this whole area is

678
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:13,080
considered Dayton and it is dedicated
parkland. So in our in our parks and

679
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:18,680
open space plan it is even outlot five
is considered parkland. So we could call

680
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,840
it a park if we can call it whatever you
want, but we could rightfully call it a

681
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,840
park.
>> And so maybe I don't know if you were

682
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:29,400
thinking this maybe I'm assuming this
Penny, but what you're saying is if we

683
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:33,080
name it a park, it's a park and people
are in it

684
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:37,400
that's okay.
And that they can use it somehow.

685
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:41,520
Is that where you're kind of going or am
I reading into that?

686
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:46,280
Like if I I to start walking back in
that 20 acres I can do that because it

687
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,280
says it's a park.

688
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:54,520
» I might be confused if I looked at the
list of Cottage Grove parks and I went

689
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:58,200
there and where's but
Again, I'm not familiar. This is I know

690
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:02,280
um
you know

691
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:07,320
this is a a project that
Amy is driving and Kevin lives by it.

692
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:11,440
I'm just not familiar enough with the
with the acreage to know

693
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,520
if park's a good name for it or not.

694
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:22,800
» Yeah, I mean from what I understand it's
it's a Faden I mean it's a park but it's

695
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:27,000
more a natural area.
Um you know, is park the right word for

696
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,600
it? I don't know. Is natural area a
better word for it? Horseshoe natural

697
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:36,240
area?
It's a lot of lot of verbage. Calling it

698
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:40,560
a park is fine. I mean we have multi we
have multi-use spaces.

699
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,440
» I'm sorry, Kevin.
>> Yeah, no, it's fine.

700
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:47,640
Yeah, we have multi-use spaces and this
is just one giant multi-use space for

701
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:51,280
the kids in the neighborhood to play
ball or frisbee or whatever.

702
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,920
» It's if you imagine like

703
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:06,840
like a kickball field
that's the size that that general area

704
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:12,640
is. That's the widest area.
And so like I said

705
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:19,920
you know people go there and hit golf
balls, they go there and fly kites and

706
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:24,840
but it's only that one
space.

707
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:27,880
Like it doesn't it's not it's big enough
for a kickball field, it's not big

708
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:32,080
enough for anything else. You can't play
kickball and fly a kite.

709
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:37,960
Um
it's just an open space but that whole

710
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:45,240
area is called Faden Natural Area. And
Faden Natural Area runs from

711
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:49,760
you know, the post office to Outlot 5
all the way down to

712
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:55,400
um Overby
uh Taylor Prairie Taylor Prairie School,

713
00:55:52,120 --> 00:56:02,400
yeah. I mean, it's it's that whole area.
So, Outlot 5 is one

714
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:07,160
lot within Faden Natural Area.
>> So, would it would To me, it makes

715
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:12,040
better sense to call it
Faden Conservancy.

716
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:17,000
Um part I believe, you know, part of all
of this process is to maybe

717
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:20,920
take Faden out of everyone's thought
process as to something that's

718
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:25,560
developable if that's a correct way to
say that. So, to me, if we if we call it

719
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:29,440
Faden Conservancy
it that to me, that just means like it

720
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:33,640
is what it is and this is what it's
going to be. I don't disagree with

721
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:38,760
Penny. If we start calling it a park, do
do people then expect us to treat it

722
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:44,000
more like a park and develop it like
>> So, then it would it Yeah, so then it

723
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:47,040
could be Faden Conservancy and Horseshoe
Natural Area.

724
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,520
» Yeah, I think we definitely don't want
to give the impression that people

725
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:58,440
should come and
hike through all of these woods.

726
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:02,320
Cuz we're not Yeah.
That's kind of what we were trying to

727
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:05,600
avoid a little bit.
>> Right.

728
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:09,600
» Well, although it does say on the sign
something, "Please keep to the open

729
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:12,360
space."
>> Okay, that's a

730
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:16,880
that is a good
Yeah, if we can pair the naming with

731
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,880
that the I think
>> Yeah.

732
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,760
» Or enforce it, yeah.
>> Or if you can somehow think we're just

733
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:25,960
renaming Outlot 5. It's not going to be
called Outlot 5. It's going to be called

734
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:30,400
something else, and that might be
Horseshoe Park.

735
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:34,400
Because if we say Faden Conservancy,
then that's the whole area. Where if we

736
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,280
say Horseshoe Park, it's just the area
that's mowed.

737
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:43,320
But I mean, as far as a park, we don't
really have There's no

738
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:47,600
we don't have to develop park parkland.
We can just kind of leave it, too. So.

739
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:52,200
» We can. It's just more about the about
the appearance of what that's going to

740
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:57,120
be. And it would
even if we were to develop it, Outlot 5

741
00:57:54,640 --> 00:58:03,200
would be part of the park. So, I think
we could call the overall area Staden

742
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:05,480
Conservancy and call it
good.

743
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,200
You know, if everybody's okay with that.
Amy?

744
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:11,880
» I'm fine with that.
>> I'm fine with that, too. Can I just One

745
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:15,960
more thing. Um what do we call
the woods behind the composting site?

746
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,640
» Oaken Gate.
>> Is it called what?

747
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,680
Oaken Gate Park or just
>> It is Oaken Gate Park. Yeah.

748
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:25,760
» Okay. So, we do name that up there.
Nobody That's not something that we do

749
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:29,120
anything with other than
>> Yep.

750
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:34,760
The only difference is that in my mind
would be the availability

751
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:38,320
the the availability to develop Oaken
Gate. We can't really develop because

752
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:42,080
it's all trees. Staden, we could develop
that if we wanted to. So, that's why I

753
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:47,200
like I like the conservancy part of
things. And if you guys are good with

754
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:51,640
that, then I can I can have them redo
the proof and we can I can bring that

755
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:55,800
back in September. We can talk about
that and then maybe between now and

756
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,400
September Amy can have an idea of what
we're looking you know, what we might

757
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,840
have donated for that and make a
decision as to purchasing this year or

758
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,960
next year.
>> Good compromise. I like it.

759
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:10,160
» One thing on the sign, I was wondering
if

760
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:15,440
someone wanted to donate, do we
Like I've seen in other places like a

761
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:20,360
little plaque that says this bench was
from this family. Like, is that

762
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:22,400
something that we would want to put on
the bottom of the sign? Like

763
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,480
» Yeah.
>> Like the the Murphy family or

764
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:30,440
» Yeah.
They do a really nice job of we could

765
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:33,920
create like a a another hanging sign off
of the bottom.

766
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:38,440
And then that could be you know sign
donated by and you know whoever is on

767
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,280
there would be
memorialized. Yeah, since this is a

768
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,560
one-sided sign you could just put a
plaque on the backside of it too.

769
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,000
Yeah.
I like that I mean if we're going to do

770
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:52,600
it I like the idea of making sure that
people can see that as well. You know so

771
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:58,360
let's let's memorialize the donors and
get them out there for if that's what

772
00:59:53,800 --> 01:00:02,960
we're going to do. So I can I I will add
that it'll probably increase the cost a

773
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:08,880
little bit but I will add have them add
a donor panel to that a small donor

774
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:13,080
panel. Like do we have any idea
how how many people we think would be on

775
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:17,120
there? Like that cuz that's going to
decide the size of that sign.

776
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:21,960
I mean we Amy do you think we're talking
a handful excuse me a handful of

777
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:26,480
families or 30 families?
>> I can't that would donate.

778
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,720
» Yeah.
>> I can't honestly answer that. I only

779
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:34,440
know
of the one and you probably know who I'm

780
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:36,160
talking about that specifically said
>> Sure.

781
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,480
» that
he would donate a good chunk of it.

782
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:44,440
» Well
>> So again that was before I knew I think

783
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:48,040
I threw out like $1,200 to him
because I did not have any idea what the

784
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:52,440
sign would cost but I figured it would
at least cost that. So

785
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:56,800
» Six thousand
>> know. It has It has only been

786
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,800
discussed in like what ifs at this
point.

787
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,680
» So
>> But the last time I went to that

788
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:08,840
particular guy he specifically said yes
I'm still in.

789
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,600
» So I think that
um

790
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:16,000
I don't think it's going to change the
cost significantly but maybe between now

791
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,560
and um
the next one the next meeting we can

792
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:23,680
figure out who those people might be and
then I can get you know Amy if you can

793
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:27,720
do that in the next couple weeks, um you
know, just whoever's interested, and

794
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:31,560
tell me who that is, I can just I can
have that sign created

795
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:35,120
uh along with the proof pretty pretty
quickly.

796
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,120
» So,

797
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:44,160
» So, it might be um partially village,
partially donation-funded, so then that

798
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:49,040
would be built into next year's budget,
kind of installation in the spring. Is

799
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:52,480
that kind of a timeline that we think
could be

800
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:56,880
» depending on what what is if we how many
funds we collect donate I mean, that I

801
01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:00,320
could have some some enough money left
over in the budget to do it this year

802
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:04,280
depending on how that looks. And I will
100% know that

803
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:07,120
after we decide what, you know, if we
have any donors.

804
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:12,720
» Okay, so it looks like we have enough
direction on the funding, um and we have

805
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:16,000
a motion and second to approve the sign.
We did make the slight change in

806
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:19,680
Conservancy.
Um

807
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:26,520
Is there other any other things that I
didn't capture in that, or are we any

808
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:29,120
other comments or questions before we
take a vote?

809
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,760
All right, hearing none, all those in
favor of the signage, say I.

810
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:40,360
» I.
>> I.

811
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:46,320
» I. Any opposed? Any abstained?
Motion carries. Thank you for

812
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:48,600
the work on that, Amy and Sean.
>> Amy did it all.

813
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,040
Not all of it, most of it.
>> And that historical

814
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:55,680
» I did it.
Yep.

815
01:02:53,160 --> 01:03:00,280
The Historical Society,
um Paula Sieversen helped uh get me in

816
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:04,560
touch with people through the historical
society, but yes, there were

817
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,760
I love the praise, but I didn't do it
alone.

818
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:16,600
» All right, great. Thank you.
Um item nine then is discuss uh

819
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:22,120
Fireman's Park master plan, which
um there is another memo in the packet.

820
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,520
Um
There's some some various things we have

821
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,520
to consider when looking at this park.
So, Shawn, if you want to

822
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,240
go over that memo.
>> Yeah.

823
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:35,160
Um
again, another lengthy memo, not quite

824
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:39,240
as bad as the first one. Um during the
festival, we with help we kind of

825
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:43,520
noticed that
the driveway

826
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:49,200
road going through the the park is in
pretty bad shape and it's really kind of

827
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:54,760
starting to heave in spots. So,
rather than just look at

828
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:59,760
fixing those individual spots, I just
wanted the committee's thoughts on do we

829
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:06,080
want to look at a bigger picture when it
comes to Fireman's Park. And so, I I

830
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:09,760
kind of gave you a few options here.
Um

831
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:13,240
so, the memo outlines uh addressing the
condition of the driveway that runs

832
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:16,120
through the park. Um it's kind of it's
definitely outlived its useful life and

833
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:20,200
we should consider whether the
appropriate approach is to repair,

834
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:24,000
um completely replace the driveway or
take the opportunity to

835
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:28,440
overall look at the park. Um so, option
one is evaluate and repair, replace the

836
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:32,800
worst sections. So, we would we would
look at look at what's there

837
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:36,160
the overall
all of the driveway and identify the

838
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:40,320
sections that were the worst in the
poorest conditions and only only those

839
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,880
areas in dire need of repair or
replacement would be addressed.

840
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:47,160
Um
obviously, this would be the least

841
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:51,240
expensive the least expensive option and
it would extend the useful life of the

842
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:55,640
driveway without making a significant
investment. Um however, this approach

843
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:59,520
does not address underlying conditions
the entire of the entire driveway or

844
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,760
provide opportunity to make broader
improvements. So, one of the underlying

845
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,320
conditions that we deal with is the
waterline that goes through there. It's

846
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:10,320
extremely low. It's only
six

847
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:15,360
maybe a foot maybe a foot down below.
Um it's not it's not in great shape and

848
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:20,160
so that would be something that we
wouldn't address in in this.

849
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:24,440
Um, option two
um uh the exi- the existing driveway

850
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,680
would be
would be removed and replaced in its

851
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:31,600
entirety. As part of that project, we
would also recommend addressing related

852
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:35,480
infrastructure needs including storm
water management, ADA compliance, and

853
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:39,120
improvements to the existing water
service.

854
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:43,000
Um, it's a larger investment um than
than repairing only the worst sections,

855
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:46,680
um but it would provide a long-term
solution and allow the village to

856
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:50,480
address several infrastructure needs at
the same time.

857
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:53,840
And option three is just doing a master
plan. Um, just kind of really looking at

858
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:57,480
the park. There aren't We don't have a
ton of options there. Um, in things that

859
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:01,520
we could do.
Um, one that I that I really liked and I

860
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:05,360
kind of spelled that out as option three
um would be to re- relocate the

861
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:09,240
concession stand, the restroom
concession

862
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:13,600
um area, create kind of like a two-story
press box facility,

863
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:18,840
um and we we we could move that to where
the current red shed is.

864
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:23,120
Okay? So, remove the red shed from that
area and then relocate that red shed

865
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:27,160
somewhere
closer to the vicinity of where the

866
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:32,400
existing um
existing hamburger stand is. So, whether

867
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:36,240
that be right in that location or maybe
you know, it could be down the tree line

868
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:40,880
a little bit closer. All that all that's
up to be decided. Um, but the good thing

869
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:45,600
about that is is that we could reuse
that building. So, it could be

870
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:49,400
disassembled and then reassembled
um in a different location. Obviously,

871
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:54,120
we need new concrete to put down there,
but um you know, I I we don't like the

872
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:58,200
flow of what that provides right now,
but it was the only option obviously

873
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:01,880
when it was built. So, putting that our
storage facility kind of right in the

874
01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:05,440
middle of the ball park and right in the
middle of all the traffic areas isn't

875
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:08,400
optimal, but
um

876
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:12,680
it's it's it's just what we have to deal
with. So, if we were to go that route,

877
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:15,400
those would be the the the changes that
I would suggest.

878
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:19,040
Um
don't have costs on any of this stuff

879
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:22,000
cuz I wanted to get your your guys's
opinion on this before we moved moved

880
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:26,560
anything forward. And this could
possibly, depending on the direction we

881
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:30,200
go, it's either a budget proposal in the
in the simplest form if we just take

882
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:35,640
care of the problem areas for next year,
or it's a bigger picture item if we go

883
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:39,880
option three and go, you know, like and
where that fits into the financial

884
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:44,000
management plan, I can't tell you that.
So,

885
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:47,880
um ultimately, uh I just wanted to get
your your thoughts on this and which

886
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:50,320
direction you guys would like me to
move.

887
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,960
» And
>> before anybody jumps in, option three,

888
01:07:53,680 --> 01:08:00,200
that is just It was just something that
I pulled out that we're not locked into

889
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,720
anything. I mean, there could we if if
option three is what you wanted, we

890
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,880
would definitely investigate this
further and make sure that that was, you

891
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:10,040
know, the direction that we wanted to
go. In

892
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:13,760
um in talking with Blake, he kind of
looked at the overall park and, you

893
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:17,240
know, the farther we get line shelter,
nothing that we need to do there. The

894
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:21,120
shelter's in great shape. It's old, but
it's in it's in really sound shape. And,

895
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,480
you know, I wouldn't Moving the
playground uh we we like the playground

896
01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:30,440
where that's at. So, rest of the park I
I I think I don't think we'd touch.

897
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,440
That's all I got.

898
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,000
» Okay.

899
01:08:35,799 --> 01:08:43,799
Uh did you think to talk to the festival
chair and see if any of these ideas

900
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:46,600
would be intrusive to the festival?
>> Negative.

901
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:50,240
» No.
Um

902
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:54,240
the sh- the shed is is nice where it is
cuz it's kind of in the back corner.

903
01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:57,560
At some point, the hamburger stand's
going to have to get replaced.

904
01:08:56,359 --> 01:09:00,120
Um
when that happens, does it need to be

905
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:04,520
there?
Uh there were talks of taking the

906
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:07,279
Oldtimers Pavilion and leveling that and
building something nicer there,

907
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:12,040
something like what we had at Bakken
Park.

908
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:16,480
Um, two-story so that people can kind of
observe the field and stuff like that.

909
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:20,960
Issue,
Fireman's Park is called Fireman's Park

910
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:25,240
because the fire department owned it.
Years ago it was donated to the village

911
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:28,759
for a dollar in lieu of maintenance and
repairs.

912
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:32,200
Uh, as far as the Fireman's Festival
goes,

913
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:36,759
it used to be this great big thing and
it's had to shrink over time because of

914
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:40,120
things that were done in this committee.
I'm fortunate enough to say and I don't

915
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:45,000
want to get on that soapbox and reap it,
but we used to have a old-fashioned

916
01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:50,560
horse pull for almost 60 years and we
can't have it anymore because there's a

917
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:55,760
retention pond where the horse pull was.
Um,

918
01:09:52,120 --> 01:10:00,840
talking about leveling the shelter,
talking about moving a shed and putting

919
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:04,800
it right where our beer tent is.
Uh, I don't like talking about it until

920
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:08,360
the festival's done.
Uh, the thing that we need to do for

921
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:13,560
safety's sake is to repair the sections
that are damaged. It would be nice just

922
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:17,840
to replace all the asphalt.
And then, who knows, 5 10 years from now

923
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:21,360
when the festival's over, if it is over
at that time,

924
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:25,560
to look at building a bigger or larger
shelter and putting it closer to the

925
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:29,280
field. Uh, maybe looking at paving that
whole area back there where the beer

926
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:32,920
tent goes for parking, something like
that.

927
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:37,080
Uh, but like I'm tasked with carrying
the festival for the next five years and

928
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:42,280
who knows, someone might want to pick it
up after that. Um, I got five more

929
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:47,000
years, we'll get it get it to 100, but I
really want Cottage Grove to retain the

930
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:52,280
ability to keep a festival going.
Uh, and then moving the moving the food

931
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:56,040
shelter or the food stand on the back
side of the backstop,

932
01:10:54,400 --> 01:11:01,320
people are going to have to walk from
where the beer tent is all the way over

933
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:04,760
to the far corner to get any food. It's
I'm I'm not for it.

934
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:10,120
I I would like to see the asphalt fixed
at minimum and maybe the driveway redone

935
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:13,280
at best. But as far as a master plan
goes, I don't know how you talk about

936
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:17,560
that
uh until after the festival's done.

937
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:27,040
» I think it's very valuable that you're
on this committee coming because I think

938
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:31,440
uh
having that perspective and that area is

939
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:34,600
really important. So, I appreciate your
um

940
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:37,200
you're being on the committee and
uh

941
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:42,800
because we like to I mean, that's
exactly why this is on the agenda so we

942
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:49,000
can talk about um you know, what
we want to make the right Yeah.

943
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:52,200
right um decision for all the users of
the park. So, I think um you know,

944
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:55,760
that's why it's here so we can talk
about it. So, thank you.

945
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,760
Other thoughts?

946
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:05,560
» So, I was when I read it, Sean, thanks
for providing us with that.

947
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,400
Um
you know, obviously cost and I don't

948
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:12,400
know what and this is we're talking
about for next year, right?

949
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,000
» Correct.
>> Um

950
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:18,840
» Correct.
>> So, you'd have to get the TBDs to be

951
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:22,720
actual dollar amounts for us to consider
what direction we want to go with that.

952
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,240
» Correct.
Um

953
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,800
you know, so my first thought was you
know, number two because if you you

954
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:33,800
know, all of that stuff needs to be done
anyway and it's you know, it feels like

955
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:37,760
that
you know, obviously option one is the

956
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:41,800
the cheaper route, but it it's going to
be needing to be readdressed sooner than

957
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:44,960
later the rest of the pieces found in
option two. Is that fair to say?

958
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,960
» Yes.
>> So, I just rather

959
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:53,360
do that
if if it's somewhat cost effective to do

960
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:55,920
that. So, that was my thought. I was
>> Option I'm sorry, Jay. Option two?

961
01:12:55,000 --> 01:13:01,080
» Okay.
>> Um and then

962
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:05,440
the only other thing I had was
for as long as I've been on here, I've

963
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:11,760
heard about the hamburger stand and how
it's fallen apart and it wiring is

964
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:15,880
unsafe and it's not ADA accessible and
at some point I think we need to

965
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:18,080
move that forward sooner than later.
Um

966
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:22,160
but
that

967
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:26,360
doesn't have to be in this option.
>> And I think we can we can select more

968
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,520
than one option here, too.
>> Right. I was just going to say I'm

969
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:33,880
trying to come up with a variation.
>> Yeah. So, I mean, whether that's option

970
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:38,080
one or we just And so, just I just today
um

971
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:42,880
looking at option one, what we're I just
got this from Kyla, we're looking at

972
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:45,320
roughly 35,000 to replace the There's
two

973
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:50,600
» So, that's significant.
>> two large areas. So, 35,000 to replace

974
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:55,320
that. And again, that is just fixing the
blacktop that that is there. Um option

975
01:13:53,440 --> 01:14:00,680
two we'll have to dive into that cuz
that's obviously under some underground

976
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:04,680
stuff. Um and and we can and we can do
either option one or option two and

977
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:09,040
still look at master planning option
three because again, this has to be

978
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:13,400
inserted, you know, this is likely a
very high dollar amount. Um so, this

979
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:16,880
would need to be inserted in the finan-
financial management plan. And right

980
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:20,000
now, I think, you know, just for
example, I think the Heidi you can help

981
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:24,400
with this, but I think the community
park shelter isn't has been punted until

982
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:27,840
like 2030.
So, you know, where this is going to

983
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:32,640
fall into that plan, you know, we could
be talking 20 years before this actually

984
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:36,040
gets funded. Um to So,
obviously the the the quickest fix is to

985
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:40,840
do either one or two.
>> Yep.

986
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:42,440
» And two, you know, if if one is 35,000,
two's got to be

987
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,320
» Double that.
>> double at least.

988
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,160
» Okay.
>> Um and that's

989
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:51,400
And again, I can investigate that and we
can look at what that looks like. It's

990
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:54,640
going to take probably some money to do
that to get Strand involved and really

991
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:58,240
look at, you know, are we talking about
curbing and you know, what are we what

992
01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:02,160
are we all or we or you know, would be
included in in doing the infrastructure

993
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,960
stuff. So again, absolutely get a better
price for that.

994
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:14,120
» Right. And if we're adding curbing and
things like then that's going to be

995
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:18,840
storm water calculations and
um

996
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:21,200
» Yeah, I mean I like to
um

997
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:24,920
because we're getting a lot more done,
but I honestly think doing just the

998
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:28,880
option one would be better.
Cuz if we start doing curbing and then

999
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:31,000
have to do storm water retention and all
these other things

1000
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:34,840
» It's a lot of money.
>> it's going to take up the space that the

1001
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:39,280
festival uses as far as the beer tents
go. As far as where the fencing goes,

1002
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:43,920
where the rides go, where where
everything

1003
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:49,960
we we put a lot into a small area now
since we lost that whole area across the

1004
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:53,200
street. Uh and I I I liked I like seeing
the pickleball courts over there. I like

1005
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:56,960
seeing the tennis courts. I like seeing
that park finished. But it does squeeze

1006
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:01,680
us into the kind of the area that we
use. So squeezing us even more with

1007
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:05,040
um something that's going to be
impossible. It's going to end up killing

1008
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,720
the festival and I don't want it to do
that.

1009
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,240
Um
we we just want the asphalt fixed,

1010
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,240
honestly.

1011
01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:19,680
» And
the Yeah, the the intention it's not the

1012
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:24,960
intention of any of this to affect the
festival. One one iota.

1013
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:30,360
Um I did have a conversation with the
the fire chiefs just about whether we

1014
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:34,720
need even need that through road through
there, whether that needs to be there.

1015
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:39,240
Um and according to the the fire chiefs
it does need to be there. And and I'm

1016
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:44,000
not 100% sure,
but it some of it is that it's platted

1017
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:48,080
that there's a street through there. So,
if you go on Google, it says it's a

1018
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:52,200
complete through street. So, there could
be

1019
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:55,400
you know, the village could replat that
and that might change things, but right

1020
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,040
now it is considered a through street
there. So,

1021
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,680
um
Yeah,

1022
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:06,640
again, just options in what we're doing.
Option three is the pie in the sky type

1023
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:11,640
of a scenario and obviously several
years down the road. What the only

1024
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:15,120
difference between two and three or one
and two is how much are we going to

1025
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:18,720
stick into the infrastructure
underground and does that affect option

1026
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:22,320
three?
You know, because we've stuck let's just

1027
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:26,640
say $100,000 into this and then if we
decide down the road to move it and do

1028
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:31,320
things different, have we wasted that
money? I don't think that we have, but

1029
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:33,760
it's just what I want you guys to think
about.

1030
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:43,440
» Thanks, Shawn. So, it kind of looks like
maybe we need to just firm up option

1031
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:48,040
one's
cost. Yeah.

1032
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:52,360
» Do we Do you want me to investigate
option two's cost? So, that would be

1033
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:58,760
replacing all of it
um and then doing some infrastructure

1034
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,760
improvements as well.

1035
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:04,880
» I mean, maybe if Strand I don't want
Strand to spend a whole time a lot of

1036
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:08,760
time on it initially. Like, do they
think we'd need to make

1037
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:14,680
more storm water retention just like a
very high level general like if we

1038
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:19,560
really do all of this, are we going to
have to make more ponds? Is it going to

1039
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:23,720
like significantly affect the footprint
of what we have currently? I I guess

1040
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:28,560
that might just be interesting
information to know before they do like

1041
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:31,640
a whole deep dive into like real
hard costs.

1042
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:35,880
» And I think that we can get general
answers from either just Kyla on that.

1043
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:39,200
Like, are we talking an additional storm
water pond for this? I can't believe

1044
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:43,920
that we are because we're not
we're not adding any impervious surface

1045
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:48,040
to it. Um right now any water that
collects just runs off to the side. So,

1046
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:52,280
they would push it through a you know a
storm sewer likely. I'm not a storm

1047
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:56,840
person storm water person but likely
into the pond that is already there.

1048
01:18:54,320 --> 01:19:03,160
But, I think I can get some answers on
that and general numbers without a whole

1049
01:18:59,960 --> 01:19:08,760
lot of cost any cost being incurred.
So, if that's if you guys are good then

1050
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:13,560
do you want do you want to insert a
master plan into the overall picture?

1051
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:17,200
Not that we have to make that decision
now but do you want me to investigate

1052
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:22,560
that for the future that you know maybe
next year we at budget time or financial

1053
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:26,120
management plan time we we insert that
into it or do you want to just leave

1054
01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:30,280
that alone completely for now?
>> I would be okay talking to you about it

1055
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:35,680
as far as the festival
aspects go so that we don't

1056
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:38,080
kill the festival.
And Kevin, that's never that's never a

1057
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,960
part of this.
>> I No, no, no, no. You've said that like

1058
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:45,280
three times now and I do I I just want
to be clear that nothing is going to

1059
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:48,840
happen down there without approval of
everybody involved.

1060
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:52,600
» I I fully understand but if a shed gets
put where the beer tent goes, if the

1061
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:57,240
hamburger stand gets removed and moved
down closer to the backstop, it all

1062
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:59,920
affects the festival. So, just so I'm
saying that.

1063
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:08,960
» Um maybe in the interim it might be I
don't know if we can

1064
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:16,760
if we should put it on an agenda or if
it's just asking like um outreach to the

1065
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:23,080
stakeholders in the So, we got fire and
festival and hometown and MG baseball

1066
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:27,520
like kind of the stakeholders of the
park.

1067
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:30,000
Um maybe
>> Hm? Pickleball group that was part of

1068
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:33,720
the park.
>> Right. Across the street but

1069
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:38,080
um
kind of get those

1070
01:20:35,480 --> 01:20:43,360
um stakeholders together to see if
there's like cuz that I mean

1071
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:47,600
like I've heard the hamburger stand
situation has been talked about forever,

1072
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:50,880
and so by not
investigating how much it's going to

1073
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,880
cost, we're just going to keep talking
about how

1074
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:59,040
it's
like needs to be replaced. So

1075
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:03,160
» Well, I can tell you right now that it's
working

1076
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:06,280
fine enough for festival.
But I I would like to see something

1077
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:10,760
nicer
like what we have at Backen Park.

1078
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:16,400
But we have to be careful at how we do
that and when we do it so that we don't

1079
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:20,800
remove something and leave something not
there when festival happens.

1080
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:23,520
Or if we put a date on it are people
going to think that's going to be the

1081
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:28,560
end of festival? So
we just got to be careful.

1082
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:33,120
» Right, and you know, MG baseball, too.
We don't want to be doing something like

1083
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:35,840
right in the middle of their season and
um

1084
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:41,360
and what their needs are if they wanted
to contribute some portion for what, you

1085
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:44,120
know, if they needed some extra space on
it that

1086
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:52,480
it would just be interesting to hear
from stakeholders like how how we can

1087
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:58,920
recommend to the village board when to
put in anything any funding toward that

1088
01:21:55,920 --> 01:22:03,440
if if they would like to. I don't I
guess get their input and bring it back

1089
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:06,880
to us and we can help
pass a recommendation and

1090
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:13,040
up if we want to add something to the
next

1091
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:17,560
financial management plan, but in the
meantime, it seems like just doing this

1092
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:21,000
necessary driveway work is kind of
>> Yeah, we we just wanted the asphalt

1093
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:26,040
fixed. This does not have to be an
opportunity to make a master plan.

1094
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:31,240
And on the flip side of that, I don't
want to just fix it and not have people

1095
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:35,960
have an opportunity to look about look
at other changes. So, I you know, I

1096
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:39,480
don't disagree with that at all and
and great point about the stakeholders

1097
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:43,480
um
and and getting you know, if we were to

1098
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:47,920
go to the master plan level, absolutely
would I would include MG into that and

1099
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:50,680
as well as all the chiefs that were in
there. So, we wouldn't do anything you

1100
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:55,400
know, like in the master plan wouldn't
be a master plan until it's approved by

1101
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:58,760
all of the folks that are involved. And
I just yeah, to get something out of the

1102
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:02,600
district I you know, I don't know that
that's going to happen, but we I I would

1103
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:06,640
definitely want to ask them because
uh like Kevin Connor, you know, he want

1104
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:10,680
he wanted to see like a uh
a locker room space so that the kids

1105
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:13,800
could shower and change and things like
that and you know, that's a huge

1106
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:18,800
building as opposed to just a concession
stand, you know, with with a few

1107
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:22,320
bathrooms or whatever. So, um I think we
can you know, we can do one or two and

1108
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:24,480
still look at three down the road. You
know, if that's what you want to do. If

1109
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,880
you don't want to even look at a master
plan, we don't have we don't even have

1110
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:31,600
to address that. I just wanted you guys
to have the all the thought you know, as

1111
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:36,240
many thought processes as we could
before we

1112
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,240
put money into something.

1113
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:43,800
So, am I hearing
um

1114
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:47,920
investigate option two more
and just see what that looks like

1115
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:52,760
uh an approximate cost
with option two? I mean, we know roughly

1116
01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:56,760
option one is a roughly 35,000 to
replace a couple of those really bad

1117
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:59,280
spots, but then we're you know, we throw
in the infrastructure that's going to

1118
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,960
change that. So, is that what I'm
hearing? Check on two.

1119
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,560
» Yes, I think
>> Okay.

1120
01:24:02,440 --> 01:24:06,080
» Heidi said it well is that there's no
cost

1121
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,800
» Right.
>> associated with that. So, that's

1122
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:13,960
important. And so, just yeah, let's see
and I think it is important to maybe

1123
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:18,520
back to Kevin's point to learn is like,
oh, you're going to need to put in

1124
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:21,600
retention ponds and things like that. Um
you know, that

1125
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:25,520
that's a little bit more involved than
just replacing the asphalt and I would

1126
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:30,800
then probably lean just towards doing
replacing the asphalt, but

1127
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,800
good to have the information.

1128
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:38,600
» You think you'll be able to have that
for budget so we can consider adding

1129
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:42,160
that? Okay, great.
>> I think we can.

1130
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,200
I definitely, yep.
>> Okay.

1131
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:47,560
» I see no reason why we can't I I can't
have that for budget time.

1132
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:54,000
» Great. Thank you.
Any other thoughts on um

1133
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:54,000
on then Fireman's Park?

1134
01:24:54,800 --> 01:25:02,600
All right, then uh we'll move to item
10, director's report.

1135
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:06,880
» All right, cool. Um fall winter guide is
out now.

1136
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:09,400
Um new classes, special events, and
department information there. So, if you

1137
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:13,440
haven't had a chance to download that,
please do.

1138
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:16,360
Um our flag football
unfortunately has started. It's all good

1139
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:22,120
and bad at the same time cuz I mean
summer's over, but

1140
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:25,600
um that's where we got 15 15 teams um
with grades K through eight. We got a

1141
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:29,880
few young ladies playing this year, not
as much as not as many as I'd like to

1142
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:32,840
see, but we are getting some more
um participation

1143
01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:36,600
um from girls in our flag football
program. Um

1144
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:44,160
we've added some new enrichment classes
this fall for both adults and youths

1145
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:44,160
youths. Did I just say youth? Youths.

1146
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:51,120
Um we're we're trying out a a company
called Kid

1147
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:56,880
um Sci or excuse me, Club Sci Kids,
which will be offering uh geology,

1148
01:25:53,120 --> 01:26:00,800
fossils, and rocks at Granite Ridge. And
we're we're going to be doing some 3D

1149
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:04,720
printing offerings at Glacial Drumlin.
So, we're we're excited to to do some

1150
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:08,640
new opportunities and those are
definitely areas that we are not

1151
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:12,760
covering right now. Um we added three
classes for our watercolor with Betty,

1152
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:17,400
which that that was just amazing. The
first one filled immediately and we had

1153
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:21,600
a waitlist um and interest and that
continues to grow. So, we actually when

1154
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:26,720
I left we were doing a watercolor
class at at MSB now.

1155
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:29,800
Um, we've also partnered with um,
Lindsey at

1156
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:34,280
Expressively You in Deerfield do offer
some monthly canvas painting classes and

1157
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:38,680
some pop-up art programs.
Um, back by popular demand is our puzzle

1158
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:42,560
exchange competition.
Um, we're partnering with the puzzle

1159
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:47,080
company for an event um, with the theme
being I love Wisconsin. So, dress in

1160
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:51,000
your favorite Wisco team swag gear,
whatever thing cheese heads and badger

1161
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:55,320
colors. So, more information on when
that date is. Um, we just uh, last week

1162
01:26:53,800 --> 01:27:01,280
we had our fourth annual community night
out. Um, was a was a good big success.

1163
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:05,520
We had incredible wea- weather.
Um, with good vendors there cotton candy

1164
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:09,720
and more. Um, chamber helped us a ton
with that so we appreciate their work

1165
01:27:07,480 --> 01:27:12,840
and con- continued support from Rugby
for hosting the movie again this year.

1166
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:16,880
So, this year I don't know if you're
down there but we put the movie um, on

1167
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:20,960
the competition side so on the east side
east field and folks were able to sit in

1168
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:26,400
the bleachers and watch the movie from
there or they could sit on the field as

1169
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:30,840
well. So, we had a good turnout. Um,
tomorrow night Rockin' and Bockin'

1170
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:35,680
um, Nirvana. We got um,
sponsored thankfully from Lauf and Berg

1171
01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:40,680
Lawn Care as well as Strand.
Um, it's the band is Nirvana. So, it's a

1172
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:47,240
90s cover band. So, hopefully, you know,
Jay will don some um, some flannel and

1173
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:50,480
um, get down there. Music is from 6:00
to 8:00. It's supposed to be a beautiful

1174
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:54,320
night. Um, we got food like five food
trucks are scheduled to be there. We'll

1175
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:57,760
see actually how many show up. Um, and
then the Lions Club will be there

1176
01:27:55,400 --> 01:28:00,760
selling malt beverages.
Um, so we're excited for that tomorrow

1177
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,840
night. That that should be a lot of fun.
Wear your flannel. Heidi, you got lots

1178
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,520
of flannel?
>> Yep.

1179
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:07,720
» Yep. Okay.
Um,

1180
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:12,440
on the park side um, staff has been
helping with uh, helping James and doing

1181
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:16,800
some pruning and clean up, aerating and
overseeding our sports field. Um we've

1182
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:20,640
had some irrigation head issues that
we've been taking care of, creating the

1183
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:25,520
flag football fields,
um doing some tree watering at Shady

1184
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:29,720
Grove, and then also we I don't know I
think I may have told you about we there

1185
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,760
was a commercial shot at Backen Park at
the Wheels Park

1186
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,360
um
two or three weeks ago.

1187
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:39,320
Um they were shooting a commercial for
hacky sack, believe it or not.

1188
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:43,040
Um so we kind of cleaned things up and
we got rid of some the wood chips that

1189
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:47,080
were in the entrance area and we put
stone in there because that's just a

1190
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:50,960
it's a huge maintenance issue, but um
James has been out uh doing a lot of

1191
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:54,560
pruning
throughout the village. We got a an

1192
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:58,320
extensive list from the post office
about trees that are hitting postal

1193
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:01,280
vehicles, and so we're kind of trying to
attack some of that stuff.

1194
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:04,960
And we're kind of getting ready to get
cranked up for the winter when we when

1195
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,360
we're really out doing a whole ton of
pruning.

1196
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,920
I think that's all I got for now.

1197
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:16,960
» Not going on. Thanks, Shawn. Any
questions for Shawn on his report?

1198
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:25,040
All right. And then we'll move to item
11, future agenda items. So we'll have

1199
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:29,600
um Juniper Fields Parkland,
and we'll have budget.

1200
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:33,760
Does that kind of sum up
major items?

1201
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:38,160
» Uh we'll have the sign,
uh Zayden sign. We'll bring that one

1202
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:40,160
back. And then was there one other one?
>> Oh, the cottonwood tree.

1203
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:45,720
» Cottonwood tree, yep.
>> Yep. So cottonwood legal

1204
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:51,120
things about that. Um
Anyone else have anything else for next

1205
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:51,120
agenda?

1206
01:29:51,320 --> 01:30:02,000
All right. Then uh we'll be back
uh to our regular schedule um

1207
01:29:56,480 --> 01:30:02,000
Thursday, September 24th.

1208
01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:07,600
All right. If there's nothing else then
all we have left is item 12.

1209
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,760
» Motion to adjourn.

1210
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,480
» I'll second.
>> Motion and second to adjourn. That's

1211
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,360
non-debatable. All those in favor say
aye.

1212
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,400
» Aye.
>> Aye.

1213
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,720
» Aye.
>> Thanks so much everybody for the good

1214
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:25,240
conversation this evening. I appreciate
it. Hopefully, we'll see you tomorrow at

1215
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,240
back in.

1216
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,640
» Recording stopped.