1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 All 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:11,200 right, it's red. We are streaming. >> Okay, we're ready to go. 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:21,920 » All right, it is 7:01 p.m. on Monday 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:26,640 the 29th of June, 2026. Um, and can I get a call to order of the meeting uh 5 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:29,039 for Eastern Delaware County Joint Rector District? Mr. Henderson, can I get roll 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,560 call, please? >> Mr. McCoy 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,480 » here, >> Miss Watson 8 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:34,239 » here, >> Miss Greger 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,160 » here, >> Miss Savvada 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,559 » here, >> and Mr. Muzakio 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:44,559 » here. >> Five present. We have a quorum. 12 00:00:40,559 --> 00:00:53,960 » Perfect. Um, first item on the agenda is the meeting minutes from May 21st, 2026. 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,960 Does the board have any discussion? 14 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:08,280 I'll I'll second that. 15 00:01:08,479 --> 00:01:14,159 » All right. Moved in and seconded. >> Yeah, I was going to say I think we have 16 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:16,720 an a correction we want to make. >> Correct. 17 00:01:15,119 --> 00:01:23,119 » That is true. Uh there was a slight correction on who uh approved motion for 18 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:27,520 resolution 20264. It would be Miss Watson approving. I 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,520 second it correction. 20 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,720 » All right. So with that correction, uh, Miss Watson, 21 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:36,159 » yes. >> Mr. Koy, 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,840 » yes. >> Miss Sabvada, 23 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:43,360 » can I abstain since I was not present. Thank you, 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,920 » Mr. Mazakio. >> Yes. 25 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:50,880 » And Miss Greger, >> I abstain. I was not present either. 26 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:54,000 » Well, we probably do need a fourth. >> Well, I think I could do it. 27 00:01:52,880 --> 00:02:00,240 Thanks. >> All right. Motion approved. Uh 41. 28 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:05,360 One. >> Next item on the agenda is public 29 00:02:02,399 --> 00:02:08,759 comment. Um are there any visitors that would like to speak? 30 00:02:08,959 --> 00:02:14,800 » I don't know. Mayor, mayor, why don't you welcome people? Come on up here. 31 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:18,480 » All right. No. 32 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,640 You gave this nice pen. Tell them about the pen. 33 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,319 All right, fair enough. We'll move on. >> All right. 34 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:33,400 » Uh, unfinished business. There are no stated items. The board 35 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,400 have any discussion? 36 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,720 Perfect. We'll move along. 37 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:48,000 Uh, new business. And I think there's a site change um 38 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,680 program and site layout updates. Is that correct? 39 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,560 » Perfect. >> Yes. 40 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,760 Sounds great. >> Great. 41 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,400 » Thanks everybody for having us here tonight. Um, as a reminder, my name is 42 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:13,280 Sophia Alonza. I'm the project manager for PUDI Solutions. We've been doing um 43 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:18,080 some of the work on the Eastern Delaware County Joint Rec District Community 44 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:22,800 Center. Um, and so tonight we have a few different topics to talk to you about. 45 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:27,840 Um we'll have MSA and Katie Freeland going over um some of the programming 46 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:33,360 just as a kind of reminder of where we left off back in April, but also showing 47 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:36,959 some new um graphics to help visualize uh what we're what we're showing and 48 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:42,000 then we'll be going through some of the site criteria. So part of our engagement 49 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:46,159 with phase 2 was to do um site selection. So we are going to walk you 50 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:52,200 through that process and hopefully get an approval for the criteria. So, I'll 51 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,200 pass it off to Katie. 52 00:03:56,959 --> 00:04:02,720 » So, again, as a reminder to the board, we we won't be projecting the um slides, 53 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:07,280 but that you do have those in front of you uh in the packet that she'll be 54 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:11,120 walking through both of Yeah, there you go. Great. Thank you. 55 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,560 » All right. So, again, Katie Freeland with MSA Design. Um we're just going to 56 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:18,000 give you kind of a quick update of what we have been working on in the 57 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,880 background in terms of the program of the building. So again, not just the 58 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:24,880 amenities that are going into the building, things that are proposed. Um 59 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:30,320 the first slide that I will direct you to is the one that says program April 60 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:34,639 2026 programming diagram. So just as a reminder, that is where we left things 61 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:39,199 off after our series of community engagement sessions. Um throughout that 62 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:42,639 series of workshops, we really focused on getting feedback from the community 63 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:48,400 as well as you all on the types of spaces uh that might be desirable in 64 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:52,880 this future community recreation center. Um and then the diagram was really 65 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:58,639 capturing kind of what what those spaces could be um in in a diagrammatic way. Um 66 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:05,120 we left things off with a building that was approximately 90,000 square feet um 67 00:05:02,479 --> 00:05:08,720 with about 10% of expansion that was dashed in on there. Just understanding 68 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:13,680 there there are still many decisions to be made and many things to be validated. 69 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:18,400 At that time we were also considering a potential partner space. Um, so square 70 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,759 footage of that really wasn't very well vetted or necessarily discussed, but for 71 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:29,360 just for the sake of the diagram, that was about 25,000 square feet. 72 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:34,080 So, if you go to the next program diagram, 73 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:39,280 um, ultimately the intention of this is once we get through the site selection 74 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:44,000 criteria, we will then be providing a more developed floor plan and site plan 75 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,759 for each of the sites that are under consideration. And the goal of that is 76 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:52,479 really to help you all understand kind of the impact of that site as it means 77 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,639 to the building and then the surrounding amenities associated with that. Um as 78 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,639 part of that we went ahead and started developing and this is sort of just a 79 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:04,720 test program a test floor plan of what that might look like. So the intention 80 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:10,160 is once some of these sites are under consideration we will then use this kind 81 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:14,880 of footprint modified um to reflect the sites that are being discussed. Um, so 82 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:17,840 in this particular version of a plan and it is starting to look a little bit more 83 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:22,080 like a plan, but please keep in mind this is just sort of a working document 84 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:26,000 and you know is going to will change as we move forward. Um, we are continuing 85 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:31,039 to show a building footprint of about 90,000 square foot. On this particular 86 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,800 one, um, we were starting to suggest there might be a mezzanine space. Um, 87 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:39,120 one of the programming elements that was discussed was an elevated running or 88 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:42,479 walking track that might be above the gym space. So in this particular 89 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,560 footprint, you know, it started to make sense maybe putting some uh fitness 90 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:50,639 space up there as well. Um this is showing programming rooms, a fitness 91 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:55,120 floor. Um we are starting to diagrammatically show kind of what I 92 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:59,039 would say focus maybe more on the amount of fitness equipment that could fit in a 93 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:02,319 fitness floor of that size, not necessarily the type of equipment. Um 94 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:08,880 this is really just to kind of help you understand scale of the space. Um, so 95 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:13,680 again, this ended up about a 90,000 ft footprint with a 4,000 square ft 96 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:18,080 mezzanine. Um, we are not necessarily building an additional expansion space 97 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:23,120 or that partner space in this diagram, but certainly can do so as we start to 98 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:28,720 test fit some of the sites um, moving forward. In terms of continuing vetting 99 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:33,199 and refinement of the program, um I would ask you as we just continue all of 100 00:07:31,039 --> 00:07:37,440 the other discussions and points that we will continue to explore with you 101 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:42,319 throughout this process. Um one of course your ongoing feedback will be 102 00:07:39,599 --> 00:07:45,680 considered and put into whatever that developed program will be. So if you 103 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,985 have any ideas, questions, considerations, please make sure that 104 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,720 you're bringing those up. Um [clears throat] there will be some 105 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:57,280 operational considerations that we will want to make sure the uh programming 106 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:02,479 document kind of follows along with that process. And I will just give you a 107 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:06,639 couple for instances. Um if you uh ultimately decide from an operational 108 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:11,919 standpoint uh you are maybe building out a more robust operational plan um and 109 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:17,680 would like to offer you know a large series of types of fitness classes, art 110 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:21,840 classes, um community interest classes, we might start to suggest that we have 111 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:26,479 more of those kind of multiuse types of spaces reflected in the program. um if 112 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:31,039 you ultimately is starting to lean towards something that is more um 113 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:35,360 streamlined and it's operational and maybe some of those types of flexible 114 00:08:32,959 --> 00:08:40,959 spaces aren't as desired, we may pull back some of those types of spaces. Um I 115 00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:45,839 know a competition pool has been requested. Um that is something that 116 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:51,279 would start to then have an operational aspect on it. Uh so right now for the 117 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:55,440 diagram we are showing just a 25 m pool. We're not showing a 50 m pool, but 118 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:59,600 certainly um I think there is space in there where something like that could 119 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:03,760 start to layer in. Um just again when you start talking about operation and 120 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:08,080 operating something that could be used more from a competitive swim standpoint, 121 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:12,080 um there is impact on the use of that for your community members. Um does that 122 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,680 want to be in the same space as the other aquatics? There's a lot of kind of 123 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:21,200 conversation that we can continue to have about that moving forward. Um but 124 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:25,519 for sort of a base level set as we study the sites this is kind of where we 125 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:29,920 landed um at the end of the the first phase of this engagement um we have 126 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:33,440 taken the liberty to add in some kind of ancillary and accessory support pieces 127 00:09:31,839 --> 00:09:38,000 just as we've developed it some office space restrooms storage those types of 128 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:42,160 things that we think would naturally kind of follow along the program that 129 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,839 was developed but we have not altered kind of the base set of program 130 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:52,120 substantially from what where we left things off. So, any questions on that 131 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,120 before I 132 00:09:53,200 --> 00:10:02,160 flip the next one? Okay. And then the last diagram here in your 133 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:07,120 packet is a site diagram. Um, so what we did for this one, and again, you'll see 134 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:11,120 kind of this format translated to the sites that will ultimately be 135 00:10:08,959 --> 00:10:15,920 considered. Um, but for the sake of this exercise, we are just showing a generic 136 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:20,079 7acre box. That's what that dashed blue line is around that. Um, we are showing 137 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:24,880 that building footprint from the previous slide. So that 90,000 square 138 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:30,320 foot building footprint. Um, and then we are showing the associated parking spots 139 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:34,800 for a building of that size sitting on that footprint. So again, for the sake 140 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:40,399 of this, I took Sunbur's [clears throat] um zoning code. They are requiring 200 141 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:44,560 spots for one spot for every 200 square feet of exercise space. So, as we refine 142 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:48,000 the program, you know, that number might shift a little bit just depending on 143 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:53,519 what we're categorizing and what's being provided in terms of exercise space. Um, 144 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:57,920 but for this one, it ended up about 390 spaces. So, you can see that that pretty 145 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:02,480 much fills a 7 acre site. When we get the the associated parking with that, 146 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:07,600 um, certainly there are opportunities. We can start looking at a multi-story 147 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:10,959 building. we can really um be much more selective about what we classify as 148 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:13,839 exercise space and really kind of drill down to what that really means and make 149 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:18,399 sure that we're not overp parking the site. Um but just to get you sort of a 150 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:23,519 base level understanding of how that might look on a on a generic site. Um we 151 00:11:22,079 --> 00:11:28,079 thought this might be helpful as you're going through the selection criteria 152 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:31,279 matrix this evening. >> I do have a question. So I know one of 153 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,440 the things we talked about needed some additional work was um you know outdoor 154 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:40,640 field space. Do we have any rough ideas of like what like acreage would be we 155 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:44,480 would be looking at? We can provide that. I think one of the 156 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:49,839 things and I think we'll probably talk about it when we get into the site 157 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:53,440 selection. Um I believe it was left with studying the sites seeing what 158 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:59,120 opportunities of sites have for that type of expansion but not necessarily 159 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:02,640 build that in today into this criteria. >> So it might be a little bit of a back 160 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,959 and forth. I guess that's not a great answer, but it'll be a little bit back 161 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:09,360 and forth once we get the sites and we understand what they're um what is 162 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:13,519 available and then we can start giving you some idea of how that might lay out. 163 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:18,560 But certainly we could pull together an acreage of kind of a base level outdoor, 164 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,440 you know, practice space what that could look like as well. 165 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,160 » Yeah. And what you just said was my understanding as well, but I was just 166 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:28,000 trying to gauge in, you know, my mind's eye, you know, if we were to find a site 167 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:34,440 that could accommodate both like what rough acreage would look like. But I 168 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,440 understand what you're saying. 169 00:12:34,568 --> 00:12:36,588 [snorts] 170 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:44,639 Any other questions on that? All right. Well, you'll see more of these types of 171 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:48,880 diagrams again moving forward. Um I think once we start applying that to the 172 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:53,120 site, um obviously that conversation will evolve and develop, but if you have 173 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:59,360 any other thoughts about what we've sort of thrown into that base understanding, 174 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:02,600 please let us know. Um thank you. Thank you. 175 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:17,120 » Um, with the outdoor fields, I do think that, um, so what Katie has said is is 176 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:21,519 where we're leaving off. I I know that internally we've been thinking about the 177 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:27,040 size of Bevelr Park for an outdoor facility, which is about 140 acres. So, 178 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:33,120 um, with the site selection, we we do have it as a consideration for, um, like 179 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:36,240 expansion space, um, for potentially outdoor fields. So, it is something that 180 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:41,600 we're considering, but we're not limiting ourselves to only looking at 181 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:46,000 sites that would accommodate for 140 acres, if that makes sense. 182 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,959 » Yeah. And so, when you say 140 acres, is that like all their various zones 183 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:53,560 because they have like the yellow zone and Okay. 184 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,560 » Yeah. Yes. 185 00:13:54,240 --> 00:14:02,240 Um, so I'll go ahead and get started with a little bit of the site evaluation 186 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:07,519 process. So our team over the past few weeks has been working to compile a list 187 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:12,079 of potential sites. So these are both publicly owned. There are some sites 188 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:15,360 that are for sale and then also some additional sites that we're looking at 189 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:19,440 that aren't currently listed for sale but perhaps could be um owned by a 190 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:24,320 community partner. So that's something that we're considering. We have about 15 191 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:30,079 sites right now. Um we've compiled some site profiles for these which include um 192 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:35,440 the size, owner, if they're for sale, what they are for sale acreage wise, um 193 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:40,079 what available utilities are near the site as well. So um we are creating 194 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:46,160 these site profiles for our team but then also for your team um as we will 195 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:52,000 have you kind of uh rank these sites. Um but our team will be going through and 196 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:56,959 at least evaluating likely it'll be more than 10 but um we do say 10 sites right 197 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:01,760 now. Um I think the sites that we have picked out are worth really looking at. 198 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:07,920 So 10 to 15 is what we will be ranking as a project team. The highest ranking 199 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:13,680 sites will be evaluated by the board members. So, we are going to see where 200 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:17,920 the natural break is, but this will likely be five between five and three 201 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:25,040 sites that we will have each member of the EDJRD board ranking. Um, we will end 202 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:30,560 up combining these scores with what we have included to get some top 203 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:36,079 contenders. And so with this, we will then start to do um a process of just 204 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:42,399 reaching out to the owners depending on if it's publicly owned, whether it is 205 00:15:38,079 --> 00:15:47,440 private or for sale. So um to reiterate the process, um we will be ranking 10 to 206 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:52,959 15 sites as a project team. From there, we would like to schedule um a meeting 207 00:15:49,759 --> 00:15:58,079 with the EDJRD board, likely um perhaps a two-hour session. And I know that 208 00:15:54,399 --> 00:16:02,079 there's been discussion on um what needs to be done. So I know that there has 209 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:06,240 been desire to do a ranking by all of the EDJRD board members. So if we need 210 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:10,399 to do an executive session or if there's some type of committee that we need to 211 00:16:08,079 --> 00:16:14,480 form then we're happy to do that. But um I think that it would be worth having 212 00:16:11,839 --> 00:16:18,800 all members uh rank the sites. And for this we'll 213 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:23,600 provide you with those site profiles that we are creating. But then also we 214 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,959 will be available to answer any questions so that we can move through 215 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:31,360 the rankings together. We think that having everyone in one room would be 216 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:36,399 helpful to really create um a consistency across scoring. So um we 217 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:41,199 wouldn't want you know the mindset to shift a little bit after you take some 218 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:45,199 time to really re-evaluate. So having it in one session with everyone in our team 219 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:49,040 available for questions we think is going to be the best option. That's what 220 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:54,480 we would recommend. I've included um a schedule. I believe 221 00:16:52,079 --> 00:16:58,320 this is on slide eight or nine. Um and this is just walking you through our 222 00:16:55,759 --> 00:17:05,760 process. So our team is going to take the next two weeks to review these sites 223 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:13,360 and score them. Um and then we would like to meet with you relatively 224 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:18,000 quickly. Um so ideally either the 21st, 22nd, 29th or 30th um would be 225 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:22,079 preferable. I know that sometimes everyone's schedule is busy so if we 226 00:17:19,679 --> 00:17:27,039 need to adjust we can we can do that but um just to throw out some dates so that 227 00:17:23,919 --> 00:17:33,760 we are staying on a tight timeline. Um and then we would like to have 228 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:38,400 about what is this about three and a half weeks to create a draft program um 229 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:43,919 and a draft recommendation to provide to the board. So we'll be taking all of the 230 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:48,240 combined sites and creating a uh recommendation to provide to you which 231 00:17:45,919 --> 00:17:52,799 will um lay out all the rankings where they scored um but then also kind of how 232 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:57,039 to proceed depending on what the site is. So we'll be able to provide some 233 00:17:54,320 --> 00:18:02,880 recommendations on um an acquisition or what whatever the mechanism for 234 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:07,679 acquiring a site would be. Um recommendations obviously will depend 235 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:11,760 on the owners. So if it's a public site, perhaps there's just um a land lease, 236 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:16,000 but also if it's um private, perhaps there's option to purchase. So we'll go 237 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:21,520 through what those recommendations are in um a recommendation that we present. 238 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Are there any questions on the schedule or the process? 239 00:18:27,679 --> 00:18:34,320 Okay, if you go to the next slide, we have 240 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:39,520 just um two slides that are covering everything that's on our site evaluate 241 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:46,400 evaluation matrix. You can see what um items are weighted at. So um all of 242 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:50,960 these criteria will be ranked 0 through 10. Um and then obviously the score will 243 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:55,840 be impacted by whatever the weight is. So these are about um weighted 1 through 244 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:00,480 10. Um I believe the highest that we might have is just an eight right now. 245 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:06,720 But um those are dependent on obviously what is uh more important and for for 246 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:11,520 our team we find that um utilities and um the the site features are some of the 247 00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:16,160 more important. So those are heavier heav he heavily weighted. Um you can you 248 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:20,960 can see that throughout the sections, but um I'd like to go section by section 249 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:27,120 and I've included a little bit closer of a screenshot on the following slides 250 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:30,960 just to um see if there are any questions or comments. I'm happy to walk 251 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:36,080 through each of them individually if that would be helpful. We have been 252 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:41,039 working with um Bernie, Todd, and Daryl um during our bi-weekly meetings to 253 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:48,000 discuss these criteria, what they're weighted. Um so we have uh reflected 254 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:52,480 those conversations in this updated drawing. Um 255 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:56,720 » yeah so so if I could say I know slides nine and 10 are a little small but they 256 00:19:54,320 --> 00:20:01,200 break out on beginning on slide 11. So just they so each individual section is 257 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:06,679 just a little bit bigger and I think a little bit easier to read. So yeah. 258 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:15,440 Are there any questions on the site features? 259 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,240 » Oh, we're just going section by section, not line item by line item. 260 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,120 » If if that's what you would prefer, happy to. Yeah, 261 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,240 » it's hard to read this. I know I have it here. 262 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,160 » Okay. >> Is this the same? 263 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,080 » Yeah. >> Yeah, actually the packet. You're right. 264 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:32,280 The packet is easier to read. >> Sorry about that. Makes sense. 265 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:41,000 So yeah, on packet page five it begins. 266 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:49,840 » I have >> I think one of the questions I had and 267 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:56,840 it was one of my comments uh that I had I wasn't able to make the meeting but um 268 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,840 hopefully it made sense. Number 269 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:05,120 nine on the packet. Uh site is not designated as flood plane or wetland. I 270 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,240 think for me >> um the building does not want to be at 271 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,720 all. >> Yeah. 272 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:16,400 » The the park the the path to worry about 273 00:21:13,679 --> 00:21:20,240 » now the field space uh we have it here at one of the elementary schools. Every 274 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:24,480 time it rains it floods. It's kind of tough for soccer and the other sports. 275 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:28,799 So I think a generic statement that the whole field say we go for 150 276 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:35,919 » acres >> I think find some parcels for areas 277 00:21:32,159 --> 00:21:40,080 where we have the building and the path. So I think for me it's a little higher 278 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:45,120 like because flood plane introduces a lot of issues building 279 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:49,919 » so I'd rather not sink that money into the foundation. 280 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:55,280 » Yeah. No that's a a valid concern. I think um we there are also I mean 281 00:21:52,880 --> 00:22:02,880 remediation techniques that can be done um to for the wetland. Um but if it is 282 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:07,440 um a general consensus that it would rather not be something that the board 283 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:11,200 worries about then we can obviously bring it up higher. I think um you'll 284 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:16,000 notice that some of these are weighted the highest. So the first item, second 285 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:19,679 and third um have a particularly high waiting. That's just because we find 286 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:25,679 that'll be the easiest for the for the um board to acquire. Um and so we do 287 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:32,480 have everything else kind of based off of what we find to be the most important 288 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:35,760 aspects. So, um we could always move that up. I think it would be worth our 289 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:41,360 team taking a look at what else is weighted high if we do adjust. 290 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:45,600 » Yeah, I don't think we necessarily need to make the whole thing generically 291 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,200 higher or lower. I I would like to see it broken out, 292 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:52,480 » okay, >> into if it's a seven acres or 12 acres 293 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,960 and small lot and it's not in a flood plane, 294 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:59,200 » it goes up for me, >> but if it's seven acres, 295 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:01,200 it's not really viable for walking paths. 296 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:07,080 » Yeah. >> So, I'd like to see it broken up if 297 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080 possible. 298 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:15,679 » Landed on that call. Yeah, I think I think we ended up moving 299 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:19,360 it up. I I can't remember if we started at a one or two, but the idea was yeah, 300 00:23:17,919 --> 00:23:23,840 that it needed to be more heavily weighted. I think because of your 301 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:28,960 comments, Bernie, what we didn't do is we didn't we we didn't differentiate 302 00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:33,200 between how much land, you know, needs to be available for a building for it to 303 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:38,320 be weighted higher. So, I think what you were saying is that so let's let's just 304 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:43,440 go back to kind of our sample, right? We is seven acres kind of the minimum site. 305 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:47,120 Actually, seven acres gets you parking and get you the building. I guess 306 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:52,640 probably your point is if you can get seven acres of land that's out of a 307 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:56,640 flood plane, that's higher. >> If you got 10 acres and seven of it's 308 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:59,520 out of the flood plane, that's good. The other three we can work with. 309 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,880 » Yeah. >> So, yeah. and and that I think we were 310 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:07,039 struggling a little bit with how to kind of differentiate the components, 311 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:10,720 » but maybe that's >> maybe we go back and trying to take a 312 00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:14,320 little bit of a stab at that. But but we did try to increase the weight correct 313 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,440 to kind of to your point. So >> yeah, maybe it's a reference point. 314 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:21,600 Maybe it's seven acres or maybe make it a little bit bigger, not the 10. 315 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,600 » Yeah. Or maybe Yeah. So maybe maybe the question maybe it's something like at 316 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:29,600 least you know at least seven acres is outside the flood plane, right? And 317 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:32,400 again that's if so that's a again maybe that's a five 318 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:37,200 » and we got to think towards expansion if we right now we offer 10% in for 319 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:43,159 expansion we realize we growing >> yeah so maybe it's at least 10 acres 320 00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:43,159 » 15 321 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,880 be helpful 322 00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:00,400 » okay >> I think we talked on the call like item 323 00:24:58,159 --> 00:25:05,799 one, two, and three kind of exclusive. So you're only giving points for one of 324 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,799 those other 325 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:11,120 » right kind of 326 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:15,480 » unique like that. You're only getting points. 327 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480 » Correct. 328 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:30,080 » Yeah. And then maybe Miss Watson to your point I Item number four. So the site 329 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:33,679 provides adequate usable area for for the proposed current scope. Again, we're 330 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,320 still working through what that scope is, 331 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:40,400 » but the point I mean this is this is weighted pretty high, right? It's 332 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:44,320 basically the land's got to, you know, meet the scope um without being 333 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:48,400 oversized. [cough and clears throat] And at some point as we get closer to the 334 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:52,480 final scoring, you're probably going to have to start weighing in, you know, 335 00:25:50,559 --> 00:26:00,120 whether or not it's got some outdoor recreational space. Does that fit the 336 00:25:54,799 --> 00:26:00,120 quote scope that we ultimately land on? 337 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,039 Again, it may not be an exact number, and I think that's kind of where we've 338 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,880 landed that I don't know that we're going to have an exact number of how 339 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:13,679 many how much additional land how much additional land, you know, is adequate, 340 00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:18,000 but we'll we know that it needs to be something, right? We I think that's kind 341 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,880 of the message that the public has said that it should have some outdoor 342 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:26,960 recreational value. And when we if we get a site that shows 343 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:30,799 30 acres, that's going to score higher than one that has 12, right? 344 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,279 » Because it's going to fit the scope better, 345 00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:38,400 » you know, in the long run. And the scope is more outdoor a little more outdoor 346 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:45,600 recreational space. >> But again, we'll we'll score this as a 347 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:48,080 unit as uh as Sophia said. So So there's still be kind of a chance to talk 348 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:51,840 through that. Yeah. >> As it relates to each site. And again, 349 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:55,840 we'll probably end up doing that in executive session so we don't end up, 350 00:26:53,919 --> 00:27:02,480 you know, letting the land owner know, you know, where the preference might be. 351 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:07,520 » So with the um with that first site features section, um I think that this 352 00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:14,960 really is kind of like setting the whole scene for what site it is. Um, so you 353 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:18,799 know, discussion of property owner, um, what is the usable area, is there 354 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:22,480 significant regrading that needs to be done. These are all things that likely 355 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:26,640 will kind of cost the board a little bit more money. Um, so we're taking into 356 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:31,360 consideration all of those things. >> So 11, where it says existing site 357 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:36,640 features and amenities contribute to the proposed development, are we talking 358 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:42,240 about like utilities or so? Um the existing site features perhaps there is 359 00:27:39,679 --> 00:27:46,240 um I know some of the sites are near um some of the baseball fields um big 360 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,679 walnut high school. So you know that would 361 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:53,679 » be um a positive >> uh feature for the site. So uh items 362 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:58,679 like that >> or but yes utilities as well. Okay. 363 00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:06,600 » Are there any additional questions on the site features? 364 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:14,880 for any if so for 12 a site does not require parcel assembly for multiple 365 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:19,279 owners. I mean to the extent that there is a parcel that requires like assembly 366 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:25,039 for multiple owners I mean do we know what the process is for that or will we 367 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:30,480 » Yeah. So um I mean I think that it would really just be um I mean likely there is 368 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:35,640 a zoning um change but then also just working with the local 369 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,640 » Okay. jurisdiction. 370 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:50,799 » Um I do think that it was a little bit higher um because now it is just at a 371 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:58,679 three. We um are not anticipating 372 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:58,679 much of a push back with that. 373 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,760 Well, the next one, >> right? Uh, with zoning and legal, we did 374 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:17,919 uh take some of these down a little bit, but um we have most of these ranked at 375 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:22,240 number one. Um, zoning allows proposed use. Uh, current zoning provides 376 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:30,960 flexibility and potential uses of the of the property. um no overlay districts um 377 00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:34,799 requiring restrictions um and then no additional commission approvals are 378 00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:39,279 required. So um you know zoning is something that can be changed relatively 379 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:46,240 easily working with um your local jurisdiction but uh it would save time 380 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:50,880 and funds not having to reszone. So that was the thought process behind that 381 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:57,360 being the highest weighted item um for number 17. I know that um I believe uh 382 00:29:54,799 --> 00:30:01,440 Sunberry and Galina just have their own um commissions, but then uh with 383 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,559 Berkshire Township, you would have to go through the Delaware County um 384 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,799 commission, which might take a little bit more time. So, we we have that one 385 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:13,880 on there specifically just because of the jurisdictional requirements. 386 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,480 Any 387 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:29,279 comments on zoning >> for so for the liquor license 388 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:34,320 availability is that for like you know flex space uses and yeah so future use 389 00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:38,480 if you ever wanted to host events I mean we haven't really talked about event 390 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:42,159 space or multi-purpose but um flex future expansion anything like 391 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:01,520 I can um move on to site context if there are no more questions regarding 392 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:06,240 that. Um so with the site context, this is really about kind of the use of the 393 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:09,440 site and what the space is. So, um, we have a number of different items on 394 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,760 here, but proposed community center would benefit from nearby and existing 395 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:20,799 development, support services, and amenities. Um, I think 396 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:25,679 we we increased this one a little bit, but not by much. Um, it is still 397 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:32,000 weighted at a four, so pretty moderate. I think comparing what is surrounding 398 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:35,840 it, if it's in an industrial space, we would likely consider that site a little 399 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:40,480 bit less than something that was perhaps in a residential area or closer to the 400 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:44,720 schools. So, making sure that the development fits within what is 401 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:48,159 surrounding it um the context of the site, but then also existing 402 00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:53,039 adjacencies. um providing uh visibility support civic 403 00:31:51,679 --> 00:32:00,960 presence landmarks. So something that's maybe closer located to the uh downtown 404 00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:05,919 or the core of one of the EDJRD um members. But then we also have uh 405 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:10,240 community supports the proposed development and location. And so we 406 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:14,399 found through our survey that there were there was an overwhelming amount of 407 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:18,880 support. But I think um depending on where this is located, if it's closer to 408 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:25,840 residential, closer to schools, we found that those uh items or those locations 409 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:32,120 were more highly requested. So, um a little bit more about where the general 410 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,120 area for a site would be. 411 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:43,440 For number 18, it states uh there would be nearby existing development. What 412 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:47,679 about any future upcoming development that is in the works? Are you take that 413 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,720 into account as well then or >> Yes. So, uh we are taking that into 414 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:55,760 account especially the work that Rick did. Um the urban decision group sites 415 00:32:53,600 --> 00:33:01,519 uh showed a lot of proposed development. So that is definitely something that we 416 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:05,760 will be taking into consideration. Um number 20 is proposed development will 417 00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:11,519 positively impact adjacent future development. So I think that we feel 418 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:16,960 that is covered under that item. But um with this grouping of criteria in 419 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:21,519 particular, we'll be heavily relying on Rick's information and what he collected 420 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:27,600 um especially in the maps that he made. So showing where it is located or where 421 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:33,279 potential sites are located in context to proposed development of residential 422 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:38,720 space but also uh residential and then also the other potential or other 423 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,720 facilities surrounding the area. >> Okay. 424 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:49,279 » Yeah. And I I would just add a little bit related to that item 31 under 425 00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:53,039 economic opportunities and benefits. The proposed development will encourage you 426 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:57,360 know adjacent private development that creates positive economic impact. So so 427 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:01,360 the first one seems to suggest that you know that something is about to happen. 428 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:06,200 The other one maybe suggests that it could encourage that to happen. What's 429 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,200 up? 430 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:27,599 just for my understanding context. Uh could you define community partners? I 431 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,240 have something in mind. What does it mean to you? 432 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:35,520 » So I think it is subjective that that certainly is um the case but also you 433 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:42,000 know there are a number of new um residential developments going in. So 434 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:45,760 perhaps if there was a desire to swap or donate some land so that there would be 435 00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:49,760 a community center nearby. So I think community partner could be the schools, 436 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:55,760 it could be a private developer, it could be um village of Galina or 437 00:34:53,359 --> 00:35:04,400 Sunberry um a community partner in that aspect. So I think it's uh just a an 438 00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:07,400 entity willing to work with our team. >> Okay. 439 00:35:27,464 --> 00:35:31,119 » [clears throat and cough] >> I know my notes stated quite a bit 440 00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:35,920 higher, but I that's why I wanted to clarify what community partner meant, 441 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:41,520 how that worked together. Um, I had it significantly higher 442 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:45,359 because I want this to be a community center. I don't want this to be in the 443 00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:47,599 corner of our jurisdiction and nobody's around. I need this to be part of 444 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,760 everybody else. >> Yeah. 445 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:54,000 » In heart. >> That's why I think it's important to be 446 00:35:51,920 --> 00:36:00,320 cognizant of our community partners, who they are, what their plans are, talk to 447 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:04,960 them, work with them, grow with them. >> Yeah, 448 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:09,440 » we we do think that um the community partners is a very important aspect to 449 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:14,000 this development. I think like I mentioned earlier having um utilities 450 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,920 and the site context some items in that weighted particularly higher. We wanted 451 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:23,280 to make sure that it was all relative. Um I think that with um community 452 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:29,920 support of the development but then also um we have number 18 rated relatively 453 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:35,440 weighted weighted relatively high. Um we think that these are going to positively 454 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,000 impact uh just based on the community support. Okay. 455 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:46,400 One take away I had was there several items. 456 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,200 » Yeah. >> Look at it as a whole. 457 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:54,359 » Yeah. 458 00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:05,440 » Great. >> Um so utilities, both of these are rated 459 00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:09,599 pretty highly. We only have two items. Um, we find that it can be like 460 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,680 relatively subjective when you're reviewing utilities and we have had 461 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:19,119 enough experience with projects where utilities are either not available on 462 00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:23,200 the site or uh located right relatively far away. And so we find that these are 463 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:28,320 two very important um aspects when considering a site. So, um, if they're 464 00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:34,160 not already on the site or very closely adjacent, we find that, um, 500 ft is a 465 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:38,800 relatively acceptable distance, um, just based on previous experience for how 466 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:43,680 much it would be to extend a utility, um, along with any tapping capacity fees 467 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:48,240 usually. So, if it is not adjacent or on the site itself, we still have an 468 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,440 opportunity to provide some points rather than just saying they're there 469 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:57,760 are no utilities available on the site. So if they're not on the site directly 470 00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:03,359 um they should be within 500 ft and you know very similarly say three utilities 471 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:08,720 are available there's water sewer electric but there's no um power or I 472 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:12,560 mean I'm sorry you know there are some available utilities but they're not all 473 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:18,640 available then you could also rank that second option um with that as well and 474 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:22,560 the profiles that we'll provide to you um will have at least some information 475 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:26,720 regarding starting utilities um and what is available. 476 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:30,640 So, you won't have to find find that out on your own. We'll we'll figure that 477 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,720 out. >> Yeah. I've been told several times that 478 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,839 sewer is the name of the game you're out here. So, 479 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,040 » yeah, >> that to me ranks a lot higher other 480 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,359 ones. >> Yes. Yeah. Um 481 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:47,200 » that out. >> Yeah, we we um have had a few projects 482 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:51,440 up in this area that utilities are not available. Um, and you'll find out 483 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,720 either a little bit later than you would like to. So, we're making sure that this 484 00:38:52,960 --> 00:39:00,000 is definitely a priority when we're reviewing these sites. 485 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:04,800 » Now, when I went to the new wall with the fieldhouse, they mentioned they have 486 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,320 their they planned everything to go on septic. 487 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,560 » Yeah. >> And in the process, they got soup. So, 488 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:17,440 that's big s. So, that's always another option to explore it. But 489 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:23,040 » so they um I'm the project manager for that as well. Um and we had started with 490 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:26,079 septic and then it was proving to be a little bit difficult to find a septic 491 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,640 tank that is of that size that you would need for a facility that size. Um it is 492 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,640 definitely possible but um it is just a more expensive option. 493 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:35,440 » Yeah. >> Yeah. They mentioned the cost was about 494 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,440 half. >> Yeah. There are additional um facilities 495 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:44,640 that you have to build too um when you do septic. So Okay. Um it is it is 496 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:48,839 always an option. It would not be our first choice but it is an option. 497 00:39:54,480 --> 00:40:04,000 Um moving on to access. So this uh has a few different aspects in it. Um you know 498 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:08,800 there are areas of the EDC JRD that are relatively rural. So um that brings down 499 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:14,320 a few things. Obviously access to the site. you might need to uh invest in 500 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:22,000 some additional roadway improvements or any roadway, but also um then that also 501 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:26,880 takes down the um potential users of the space. So um that's another one um that 502 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:30,880 will kind of have multiple impacts and things leading to it. But um with this 503 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:36,400 list in particular, surrounding conditions and capacity of the roadway 504 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:41,599 um of local or state traffic will support the development um making sure 505 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:46,480 that it's not just you know um perhaps a a grapple road. Um and then proposed 506 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:50,640 location needs or requirements identified in the market analysis. So, 507 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:58,359 like what we were discussing with Rick and his proposed developments or just 508 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,359 location to surrounding um residents. 509 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:08,480 We also added um item 30 to this list. Um Darl mentioned that uh the Morph 510 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:12,400 Greenway paths and trail plans could help um pull in some potential shared 511 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,800 use path options. And so making sure that there is still connection 512 00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:23,400 throughout the surrounding district. Um so making sure that we include that in 513 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,400 connectors for shared use paths 514 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:45,040 for access um and tying in community partners. Have there been any thought to 515 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,560 connecting with the fire department to ask them 516 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,160 If you had it your way, were there any short are there any shortcuts? Can we 517 00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:55,200 help with that somehow one way or another? I'm just kind of thinking 518 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:58,640 because I I think that was brought up by a resident that said, "Hey, that 519 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:02,720 » fire department would love to have a road here. They just can't pay. There's 520 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,000 no reason to have a road here, but if that could help, why not?" 521 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,119 » Yeah, >> just a thought 522 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,000 as well. >> Yeah, that's a really great idea. 523 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:28,720 any additional questions with access. So then our final um final is the 524 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:32,480 economic development opportunities and benefits. So this is more about what the 525 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:37,599 proposed development of the surrounding area could be. Um location features are 526 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:42,319 pos uh I'm sorry positive and marketable for events. um local incentives are 527 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,359 available for development um potential for cost sharing. So very similar to 528 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:49,599 what you just mentioned, you know, potential cost sharing and extending a 529 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:55,520 roadway. Um but then also development of the proposed site will not reduce future 530 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:58,960 taxable property to prevent um new private development. So, they're similar 531 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:03,599 to what we talked about earlier. Having a site that would be in the middle of an 532 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:09,280 industrial space might not be the best location um context wise, but also then 533 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:13,440 economic development wise for the uh EDJRD 534 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:19,680 um members. So, taking some consideration into that. Obviously, I 535 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:22,640 think that there are plenty of very desirable sites that we are looking at 536 00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:26,480 right now. So I don't really see that as an issue, but it is something that we'll 537 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:30,760 consider making sure that the taxable revenue is not taken away from the 538 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,760 jurisdictions. 539 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:47,280 We also uh considered the positive and marketable um area. Um, 540 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:52,000 and when we were thinking about this, you know, uh, we talked about the 541 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:57,119 location and using urban decision groups site work, um, and taking that into 542 00:43:54,319 --> 00:44:03,440 consideration. And we find that, um, you know, it will 543 00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:07,599 likely be positive and marketable for the community no matter where it is 544 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:12,960 likely. So, um, we we felt comfortable with we I think we brought it up maybe 545 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:18,000 one or two points, not um, a large amount, but we felt that this would make 546 00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:23,280 it wherever the site is going to be real really would make it more marketable for 547 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:26,280 community use or also just community development. 548 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:40,480 So you're referencing number 32. Is that correct? Facilities location are 549 00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:47,640 » Yes. >> It's still on mention it went up. 550 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,640 » Um 551 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,160 » I'll have to go back and look at my notes, but perhaps it's supposed to be a 552 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,160 two. 553 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:13,520 Yeah, from my perspective if if if say that one be positive and remarkable 554 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:18,079 is only ranked at one and if it's negative and not marketable and zero 555 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:22,880 that's one point big I think should be quite high from my perspective I think 556 00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:25,440 it will with all of it [clears throat] to rank 557 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:38,880 Are there any questions about the criteria that we mentioned um or 558 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:44,079 discussed? Um I think that as far as next steps if uh there is an approval 559 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:49,839 from the board then we will start our review um as quickly as possible um so 560 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:55,839 that we can get it into that so that we can schedule a meeting 561 00:45:51,200 --> 00:46:00,160 to review with the EDJR board as well. >> Do you need approval tonight to this 562 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:08,000 schedule? Slide eight. Um, I think that that would 563 00:46:05,359 --> 00:46:11,760 uh be likely the best. Obviously, we can wait. 564 00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:18,240 Um, but that just would push the schedule back. And if it's a discussion 565 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:21,359 that needs to be had offline, then um or just in an executive session with your 566 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,160 team, that's that's okay. But if it needs to wait until another board 567 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:28,880 meeting, then obviously it will just impact the schedule. 568 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:32,960 » Correct. Waiting full. >> Yeah. all together. 569 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:38,960 I just want to make sure that the other board members here have a chance to kind 570 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:43,040 of sit, dissect, and absorb because there's a lot here. And I guess 571 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:48,400 the one question I also have is these are are good. Then we get sites back, 572 00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:51,839 oh, this is what the rain does. We still have the latitude to use our judgment. 573 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,800 » Yeah. >> Just because it rated high doesn't mean 574 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:58,119 that's that's >> Yeah, absolutely. 575 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,720 discuss. 576 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,880 » Yes. 577 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:15,040 » Yes. So I I was writing down I mean maybe if we change the way it's written. 578 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:19,359 So again maybe at least 10 acres is outside of the flood plane and that way 579 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:25,839 you know you've got >> a 90,000 square foot building that you 580 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:29,359 know fits comfortably in the space. um you know maybe that it's so again it 581 00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:35,040 sort of and if something comes in that's less than that you know it's scoring low 582 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:39,680 and it's and it's waiting factor I mean I guess it yeah by scoring low the 583 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:44,560 waiting factor doesn't lift it up any but if it if it's at least 10 acres it's 584 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:49,040 outside the flood plane and it meets you know the building footprint issue scores 585 00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:52,480 high on that front it gets weighted the court three four whatever the number 586 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:56,000 might be maybe that's a way to at least get keep them moving 587 00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:59,680 in the evaluation and then when we get together as a group 588 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:04,160 » we can sort through it if anybody's sort of on the margins. 589 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:09,760 » Yeah. And that's one of the things I'm struggling with is that this is all 590 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:14,240 geared to the site and building. We have two simultaneous paths where we have 591 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:19,839 site building and potentially outside area. So 592 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:25,440 » just try to see how to balance that in a criteria like this. 593 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:29,000 So if we could change number nine to state whether 594 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,040 I think 595 00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:42,680 » I'm sorry to what did you say? 596 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,240 » I didn't hear what you said. 597 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:03,480 for the flood plane. I I would say so. >> I think it is going to hit. 598 00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:15,640 » I would say that is reasonable. 599 00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:28,280 » That's the hard part. We're setting criteria. We don't I feel like once you 600 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,280 see the site now used to go like 601 00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:34,440 I'll get sites 602 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,720 all 603 00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:07,319 explore creative site that meets a whole lot of criteria 604 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,319 that might start. 605 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,160 So I think this 606 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,280 » five 607 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,040 sit back here. 608 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:43,960 They don't come together. 609 00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:14,160 Yeah. And as we have your team rank them, I think especially your priorities 610 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:18,319 as a board and what the site is are going to come into play um more than 611 00:51:16,319 --> 00:51:22,400 just our like technical expertise. what you want out of out of the building and 612 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:26,000 out of the program is going to be something that's incredibly important 613 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:31,520 and it might change and differ from what our rankings are, but that's why we have 614 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:36,319 you included in those as well. >> So, so really this is just a guide to 615 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:39,440 help us think through everything that we want to think. But the the the goal at 616 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:47,319 the end of the day is not to say this scored, you know, a 123 and that was 617 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,319 124. So, we're going with 124. 618 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,920 down. So 619 00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:12,839 really just 620 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,200 Yeah. 621 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:40,760 How long? 622 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,440 So we got to go back. 623 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,839 This is the criteria. 624 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,920 » Thank you. 625 00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,599 All right. Forward. >> So, go ahead. 626 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:45,440 » Yeah, I was gonna say, so we do we do have a motion to approve the criteria. 627 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:50,079 So, maybe what I'm hearing is again, we're going to amend the language in 628 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:56,400 item number three. Uh, you know, to say it I don't know, is 629 00:53:52,640 --> 00:54:02,079 it 10 or 15? I don't mean number nine. I'm sorry. Number nine. Number nine. 630 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:07,880 Yeah. Waited three. Sorry. Um, at least you know 10 acres is outside the flood 631 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,880 plane. At least 15 acres. 632 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:16,000 » I'd air on the side of 15. >> I'm okay with that. 633 00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:20,240 » Okay. So then with that change, like I said, 634 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,480 there's a motion to basically then accept the criteria, allow them to do 635 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:29,839 their ranking, then we'll come back as a board, see the top, you know, whatever 636 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:34,559 five, three, five, 3, four, five, six, whatever that number looks like. We'll 637 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:37,440 talk about it in an executive session, and we'll come out, I think, with a good 638 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,640 sense of which ones we think are top of the list. And then they'll go out and 639 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:46,079 start seeing if there's a way to secure the site. 640 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:49,040 I mean, there's also some site. >> They got to fit the site, too. Yeah. I 641 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:53,319 guess we wouldn't secure the site right away. We got to make sure it fit. So, 642 00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:01,040 » so is there a motion? Yeah, >> I'll make the motion. 643 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:06,359 » All right. Second resolution 05. So, moved by Miss Watson, seconded by Mr. 644 00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:06,359 Koy. 645 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,480 All right. Miss Miss Watson, >> yes. 646 00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:12,160 » Mr. Koy, >> yes. 647 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,319 » Miss Greor, >> yes. 648 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,680 » Mr. Muzakio, >> yes. 649 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:21,760 » Miss Savannah, >> yes. 650 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:25,000 » Motion approved. 5 Z. Great. Thanks. Thank you. 651 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:34,160 Next item on the agenda. So, we did resolution 202605. Next would be 2026 652 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:37,839 budget update. >> Um, I'm sorry. I hate to do this, but 653 00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:42,559 can we maybe go back to the meeting minutes? 654 00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:42,559 Jody, if you 655 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,480 I was not present 656 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:56,920 but said on here the meeting was May 21st on Sunday but I think 657 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:05,799 so that's where earlier Sunday 658 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:14,799 » so Sunday was Sunday was the Sunday the 17th was 659 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:19,319 » Sunday >> and then Thursday the 21st 660 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:29,760 » Yeah. >> So the date and the mixed up 661 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:35,839 » think so I think >> I just know I had day on 18th Sunday it 662 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:41,960 was setting up Sunday. 663 00:56:38,319 --> 00:56:41,960 » Yeah. So, so these 664 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:49,920 » so I think page two of the materials the second line it should say um Thursday 665 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,920 May 21st. >> Yeah. 666 00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:00,480 » Good catch. >> Well 667 00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:06,000 » yeah that was all Jody >> and then because we had approved the May 668 00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:10,720 17th meeting minutes which is reflected in our minutes. See, I think if we just 669 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:14,960 change Sunday to Thursday, we got it. So, I guess 670 00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:19,839 » Oh, I I'm sorry. I see where you are. I was down under the minutes. Yes, 671 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:23,280 Thursday. Got it. Thursday, May 21st. All right. Why don't we uh why don't we 672 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:30,480 reapprove the minutes then with that correction. So, we'll say uh amended 673 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:37,680 minutes. So, we've got two amendments. We've got 674 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:43,280 the the date as in Thursday May 21 675 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:50,440 and we've got then the motion the move and approval of resolution 04 which we 676 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,440 get corrected in the first minutes. 677 00:57:52,319 --> 00:57:59,480 » So >> we have a motion to approve the 678 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:08,200 » I'll second. So moved by Miss Greger, second by Miss Watson. 679 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,240 » All right. Miss Greger. >> Yes. 680 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,480 » Miss Watson. >> Yes. 681 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,160 » Miss Savvada. >> Yes. 682 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,079 » Mr. Mazakio. >> Yes. 683 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:24,680 » And Mr. Koy. >> Yes. 684 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,680 » Five years. Motion approved. 685 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,359 Great. Thank you. 686 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:36,240 All right. The only other item in the agenda just uh a snapshot of where we 687 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:40,960 are with respect to the budget. So at the last meeting we amended the budget. 688 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:45,359 So you see the amended budget on packet page 19. 689 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:50,480 Um as we talked about um you know we will 690 00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:54,880 have to get some funding in place for accounting and audit purposes. We had 691 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:59,680 talked about maybe going back to the jurisdictions and asking for the funds 692 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:02,880 that were not spent in 2025. uh would they be willing to appropriate 693 00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:07,839 those moving forward that ended up being a little short of $10,000? 694 00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:15,920 Um so the way to kind of think about that um Sunbury would be at 46 46 and a 695 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:19,520 half% of that Berkshire 43.9 Galina at 9.7. I I'll put that together for the 696 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:26,799 next meeting so we know the exact amounts that we're requesting. Um, I I 697 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:31,599 will say that Sunbury has uh already approved an amendment allowing for that 698 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:34,480 additional appropriation. So, so we've at least secured that, but I'll I'll get 699 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:41,599 the exact numbers and bring those back and we'll get that cleaned up. So, 700 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:44,760 other than that, that is it on the on the budget. 701 00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:06,520 Next item is information. Any discussion? 702 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:15,079 Then we go to next meeting before we adjourn. Yes. 703 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:22,079 So >> in the schedule you had suggested some 704 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:26,119 dates. Sophia, you want to start by throwing those out again? 705 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:26,119 » Yeah. 706 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,400 » 21st. 707 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:41,559 » I'm sorry. Was the 20th one of them or was it the 21st and 22? 21st. 708 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,559 » All right. So let's see. 709 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:56,960 The 21st is a Tuesday. >> Would we be look since it's probably a 710 01:00:55,119 --> 01:01:00,520 two-hour meeting, would we be looking to start at what six? 711 01:01:00,799 --> 01:01:08,880 That works. >> So, I can't be in person on the first 712 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:15,599 two, but I could on the second two. I could probably do virtual on first two 713 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:19,720 for the 21st, 22. I would be traveling. So, 714 01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:24,359 » I can do any of those dates. 715 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:32,280 » It would be better for me if we could do it on the 29th and 30th. But if more 716 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,280 people cannot do that, 717 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:46,240 » you can do the third. Okay. All four is fine. 718 01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:49,880 That's great. [laughter] We'll 719 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,880 » accommodate your 720 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,599 » go for Thursday 30th 721 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,160 » at 6 p.m. 722 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,799 » Yes, that' be good. 723 01:02:10,319 --> 01:02:15,760 All right, we want to move that back to Sunbury then 724 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:19,000 » because I think Sunbury would be next in the rotation. 725 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,319 All right. 726 01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:35,520 July 30 6 p.m. December. And just for planning 727 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:38,640 purposes, will we be getting a like a packet before that meeting to start 728 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,359 looking through? >> Yeah. 729 01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:42,359 » Okay. That 730 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,839 » Yeah, that would be ideal. 731 01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:19,760 Yeah. So, on that, I'll need to I'll need to talk to Becky just a little bit 732 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:24,079 about the documents um just to make sure we can 733 01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:28,520 protect those a little bit. So, I've got a little bit of work to do on that. So, 734 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:37,039 Okay, >> perfect. And I'll make a motion to 735 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:41,599 adjurnn. >> I'll second. 736 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:45,119 » All right. Moved by Mr. Koy, seconded by Miss Sabata. Uh, Mr. Koy. 737 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,319 » Yes. >> Sabata. 738 01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:48,319 » Yes. >> Mr. Mazakio. 739 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,079 » Yes. >> Uh, Miss Greger. 740 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,319 » Yes. >> And Miss Watson, 741 01:03:51,599 --> 01:04:00,280 » yes. >> Uh, five years. We are adjourned. 742 01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,280 Turn up.