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» Okay, we're ready to go.

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» All right,

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it is 7:01 p.m. on Monday

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the 29th of June, 2026. Um, and can I

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get a call to order of the meeting uh

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for Eastern Delaware County Joint Rector

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District? Mr. Henderson, can I get roll

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call, please?

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» Mr. McCoy

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» Here,

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» Miss Watson

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» Here,

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» Miss Greger

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» Here,

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» Miss Savvada

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» Here,

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» And Mr. Muzakio

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» Five present. We have a quorum.

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» Perfect. Um, first item on the agenda is

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the meeting minutes from May 21st, 2026.

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Does the board have any discussion?

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I'll I'll second that.

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» All right. Moved in and seconded.

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an a correction we want to make.

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» Correct.

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» That is true. Uh there was a slight

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correction on who uh approved motion for

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resolution 20264.

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It would be Miss Watson approving. I

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correction.

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» All right. So with that correction, uh,

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» Can I abstain since I was not present.

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» Mr. Mazakio.

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» Well, we probably do need a fourth.

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» Well, I think I could do it.

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» All right. Motion approved. Uh 41.

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» Next item on the agenda is public

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comment. Um are there any visitors that

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» I don't know. Mayor, mayor, why don't

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you welcome people? Come on up here.

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» All right.

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You gave this nice pen. Tell them about

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» Uh, unfinished business.

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Uh, new business. And I think there's a

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program and site layout updates. Is that

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» Thanks everybody for having us here

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tonight. Um, as a reminder, my name is

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Sophia Alonza. I'm the project manager

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for PUDI Solutions. We've been doing um

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some of the work on the Eastern Delaware

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Center. Um, and so tonight we have a few

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different topics to talk to you about.

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site criteria. So part of our engagement

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selection. So we are going to walk you

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an approval for the criteria. So, I'll

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background in terms of the program of

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amenities that are going into the

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building, things that are proposed. Um

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2026 programming diagram. So just as a

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reminder, that is where we left things

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engagement sessions. Um throughout that

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series of workshops, we really focused

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capturing kind of what what those spaces

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there there are still many decisions to

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be made and many things to be validated.

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potential partner space. Um, so square

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to the building and then the surrounding

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amenities associated with that. Um as

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consideration we will then use this kind

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space up there as well. Um this is

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fitness floor of that size, not

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the other discussions and points that we

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a more robust operational plan um and

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series of types of fitness classes, art

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streamlined and it's operational and

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more from a competitive swim standpoint,

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conversation that we can continue to

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taken the liberty to add in some kind of

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ancillary and accessory support pieces

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just as we've developed it some office

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feet of exercise space. So, as we refine

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the program, you know, that number might

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shift a little bit just depending on

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what we're categorizing and what's being

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provided in terms of exercise space. Um,

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but for this one, it ended up about 390

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spaces. So, you can see that that pretty

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much fills a 7 acre site. When we get

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the the associated parking with that,

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um, certainly there are opportunities.

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We can start looking at a multi-story

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building. we can really um be much more

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selective about what we classify as

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exercise space and really kind of drill

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down to what that really means and make

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sure that we're not overp parking the

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site. Um but just to get you sort of a

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base level understanding of how that

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might look on a on a generic site. Um we

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thought this might be helpful as you're

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going through the selection criteria

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matrix this evening.

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» I do have a question. So I know one of

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the things we talked about needed some

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additional work was um you know outdoor

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field space. Do we have any rough ideas

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of like what like acreage would be we

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would be looking at?

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We can provide that. I think one of the

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things and I think we'll probably talk

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about it when we get into the site

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selection. Um I believe it was left with

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studying the sites seeing what

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opportunities of sites have for that

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type of expansion but not necessarily

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build that in today into this criteria.

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» So it might be a little bit of a back

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and forth. I guess that's not a great

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answer, but it'll be a little bit back

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and forth once we get the sites and we

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understand what they're um what is

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available and then we can start giving

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you some idea of how that might lay out.

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But certainly we could pull together an

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acreage of kind of a base level outdoor,

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you know, practice space what that could

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look like as well.

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» Yeah. And what you just said was my

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understanding as well, but I was just

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trying to gauge in, you know, my mind's

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eye, you know, if we were to find a site

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that could accommodate both like what

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rough acreage would look like. But I

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understand what you're saying.

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[snorts]

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Any other questions on that? All right.

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Well, you'll see more of these types of

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diagrams again moving forward. Um I

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think once we start applying that to the

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site, um obviously that conversation

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will evolve and develop, but if you have

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any other thoughts about what we've sort

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of thrown into that base understanding,

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please let us know. Um thank you.

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Thank you.

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» Um, with the outdoor fields, I do think

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that, um, so what Katie has said is is

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where we're leaving off. I I know that

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internally we've been thinking about the

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size of Bevelr Park for an outdoor

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facility, which is about 140 acres. So,

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um, with the site selection, we we do

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have it as a consideration for, um, like

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expansion space, um, for potentially

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outdoor fields. So, it is something that

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we're considering, but we're not

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limiting ourselves to only looking at

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sites that would accommodate for 140

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acres, if that makes sense.

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» Yeah. And so, when you say 140 acres, is

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that like all their various zones

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because they have like the yellow zone

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and Okay.

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» Yeah. Yes.

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Um, so I'll go ahead and get started

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with a little bit of the site evaluation

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process. So our team over the past few

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weeks has been working to compile a list

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of potential sites. So these are both

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publicly owned. There are some sites

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that are for sale and then also some

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additional sites that we're looking at

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that aren't currently listed for sale

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but perhaps could be um owned by a

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community partner. So that's something

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that we're considering. We have about 15

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sites right now. Um we've compiled some

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site profiles for these which include um

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the size, owner, if they're for sale,

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what they are for sale acreage wise, um

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what available utilities are near the

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site as well. So um we are creating

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these site profiles for our team but

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then also for your team um as we will

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have you kind of uh rank these sites. Um

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but our team will be going through and

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at least evaluating likely it'll be more

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than 10 but um we do say 10 sites right

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now. Um I think the sites that we have

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picked out are worth really looking at.

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So 10 to 15 is what we will be ranking

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as a project team. The highest ranking

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sites will be evaluated by the board

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members. So, we are going to see where

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the natural break is, but this will

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likely be five between five and three

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sites that we will have each member of

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the EDJRD board ranking. Um, we will end

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up combining these scores with what we

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have included to get some top

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contenders. And so with this, we will

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then start to do um a process of just

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reaching out to the owners depending on

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if it's publicly owned, whether it is

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private or for sale. So um to reiterate

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the process, um we will be ranking 10 to

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15 sites as a project team. From there,

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we would like to schedule um a meeting

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with the EDJRD board, likely um perhaps

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a two-hour session. And I know that

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there's been discussion on um what needs

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to be done. So I know that there has

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been desire to do a ranking by all of

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the EDJRD board members. So if we need

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to do an executive session or if there's

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some type of committee that we need to

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form then we're happy to do that. But um

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I think that it would be worth having

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all members

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uh rank the sites. And for this we'll

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provide you with those site profiles

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that we are creating. But then also we

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will be available to answer any

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questions so that we can move through

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the rankings together. We think that

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having everyone in one room would be

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helpful to really create um a

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consistency across scoring. So um we

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wouldn't want you know the mindset to

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shift a little bit after you take some

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time to really re-evaluate. So having it

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in one session with everyone in our team

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available for questions we think is

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going to be the best option. That's what

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we would recommend.

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I've included um a schedule. I believe

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this is on slide eight or nine. Um and

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this is just walking you through our

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process. So our team is going to take

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the next two weeks to review these sites

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and score them. Um and then we would

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like to meet with you relatively

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quickly. Um so ideally either the 21st,

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22nd, 29th or 30th um would be

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preferable. I know that sometimes

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everyone's schedule is busy so if we

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need to adjust we can we can do that but

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um just to throw out some dates so that

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we are staying on a tight timeline. Um

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and then we would like to have

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about what is this about three and a

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half weeks to create a draft program um

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and a draft recommendation to provide to

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the board. So we'll be taking all of the

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combined sites and creating a uh

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recommendation to provide to you which

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will um lay out all the rankings where

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they scored um but then also kind of how

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to proceed depending on what the site

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is. So we'll be able to provide some

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recommendations on um an acquisition or

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what whatever the mechanism for

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acquiring a site would be.

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Um recommendations obviously will depend

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on the owners. So if it's a public site,

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perhaps there's just um a land lease,

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but also if it's um private, perhaps

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there's option to purchase. So we'll go

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through what those recommendations are

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in um a recommendation that we present.

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Are there any questions on the schedule

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or the process?

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Okay,

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if you go to the next slide, we have

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just um two slides that are covering

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everything that's on our site evaluate

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evaluation matrix. You can see what um

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items are weighted at. So um all of

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these criteria will be ranked 0 through

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10. Um and then obviously the score will

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be impacted by whatever the weight is.

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So these are about um weighted 1 through

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10. Um I believe the highest that we

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might have is just an eight right now.

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But um those are dependent on obviously

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what is uh more important and for for

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our team we find that um utilities and

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um the the site features are some of the

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more important. So those are heavier

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heav he heavily weighted. Um you can you

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can see that throughout the sections,

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but um I'd like to go section by section

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and I've included a little bit closer of

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a screenshot on the following slides

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just to um see if there are any

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questions or comments. I'm happy to walk

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through each of them individually if

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that would be helpful. We have been

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working with um Bernie, Todd, and Daryl

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um during our bi-weekly meetings to

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discuss these criteria, what they're

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weighted. Um so we have uh reflected

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those conversations in this updated

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drawing. Um

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» Yeah so so if I could say I know slides

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nine and 10 are a little small but they

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break out on beginning on slide 11. So

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just they so each individual section is

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just a little bit bigger and I think a

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little bit easier to read. So yeah.

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Are there any questions on the site

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features?

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» Oh, we're just going section by section,

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not line item by line item.

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» If if that's what you would prefer,

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happy to. Yeah,

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» It's hard to read this. I know I have it

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here.

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» Okay.

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» Is this the same?

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» Yeah.

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» Yeah, actually the packet. You're right.

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The packet is easier to read.

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» Sorry about that. Makes sense.

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So yeah, on packet page five it begins.

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» I have

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» I think one of the questions I had and

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it was one of my comments uh that I had

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I wasn't able to make the meeting but um

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hopefully it made sense. Number

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nine on the packet. Uh site is not

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designated as flood plane or wetland. I

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think for me

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» Um the building does not want to be at

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all.

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» Yeah.

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» The the park the the path

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to worry about

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» Now the field space uh we have it here

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at one of the elementary schools. Every

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time it rains it floods. It's kind of

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tough for soccer and the other sports.

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So I think a generic statement that the

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whole field say we go for 150

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» Acres

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» I think find some parcels for areas

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where we have the building and the path.

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So I think for me it's a little higher

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like because flood plane introduces a

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lot of issues building

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» So I'd rather not sink that money into

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the foundation.

548
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:52,880
» Yeah. No that's a a valid concern. I

549
00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:55,280
think um we there are also I mean

550
00:21:52,880 --> 00:22:00,640
remediation techniques that can be done

551
00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:02,880
um to for the wetland. Um but if it is

552
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,120
um a general consensus that it would

553
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,440
rather not be something that the board

554
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:09,840
worries about then we can obviously

555
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,200
bring it up higher. I think um you'll

556
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,600
notice that some of these are weighted

557
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,000
the highest. So the first item, second

558
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,360
and third um have a particularly high

559
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,679
waiting. That's just because we find

560
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:23,440
that'll be the easiest for the for the

561
00:22:19,679 --> 00:22:25,679
um board to acquire. Um and so we do

562
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:29,520
have everything else kind of based off

563
00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:32,480
of what we find to be the most important

564
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,000
aspects. So, um we could always move

565
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,760
that up. I think it would be worth our

566
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,440
team taking a look at what else is

567
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:41,360
weighted high if we do adjust.

568
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,760
» Yeah, I don't think we necessarily need

569
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:45,600
to make the whole thing generically

570
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,559
higher or lower. I I would like to see

571
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,200
it broken out,

572
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:50,320
» Okay,

573
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,480
» Into if it's a seven acres or 12 acres

574
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,520
and small lot and it's not in a flood

575
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,960
plane,

576
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,360
» It goes up for me,

577
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,200
» But if it's seven acres,

578
00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:00,720
it's not really viable for walking

579
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,200
paths.

580
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,080
» Yeah.

581
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:07,080
» So, I'd like to see it broken up if

582
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080
possible.

583
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,919
» Landed on that call.

584
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,679
Yeah, I think I think we ended up moving

585
00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:17,919
it up. I I can't remember if we started

586
00:23:15,679 --> 00:23:19,360
at a one or two, but the idea was yeah,

587
00:23:17,919 --> 00:23:21,039
that it needed to be more heavily

588
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:23,840
weighted. I think because of your

589
00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:25,919
comments, Bernie, what we didn't do is

590
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,960
we didn't we we didn't differentiate

591
00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:30,960
between how much land, you know, needs

592
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,200
to be available for a building for it to

593
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:36,240
be weighted higher. So, I think what you

594
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,320
were saying is that so let's let's just

595
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,960
go back to kind of our sample, right? We

596
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,440
is seven acres kind of the minimum site.

597
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,679
Actually, seven acres gets you parking

598
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,120
and get you the building. I guess

599
00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:50,240
probably your point is if you can get

600
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:52,640
seven acres of land that's out of a

601
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,039
flood plane, that's higher.

602
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,640
» If you got 10 acres and seven of it's

603
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:58,640
out of the flood plane, that's good. The

604
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,520
other three we can work with.

605
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,600
» Yeah.

606
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,880
» So, yeah. and and that I think we were

607
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,960
struggling a little bit with how to kind

608
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,039
of differentiate the components,

609
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,799
» But maybe that's

610
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:10,720
» Maybe we go back and trying to take a

611
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:12,640
little bit of a stab at that. But but we

612
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,320
did try to increase the weight correct

613
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,520
to kind of to your point. So

614
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,440
» Yeah, maybe it's a reference point.

615
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,440
Maybe it's seven acres or maybe make it

616
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,600
a little bit bigger, not the 10.

617
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,799
» Yeah. Or maybe Yeah. So maybe maybe the

618
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,600
question maybe it's something like at

619
00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:27,120
least you know at least seven acres is

620
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,600
outside the flood plane, right? And

621
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,640
again that's if so that's a again maybe

622
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,400
that's a five

623
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,480
» And we got to think towards expansion if

624
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,200
we right now we offer 10% in for

625
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,159
expansion we realize we growing

626
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:43,159
» Yeah so maybe it's at least 10 acres

627
00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:43,159
» 15

628
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,880
be helpful

629
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,159
» Okay

630
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,400
» I think we talked on the call like item

631
00:24:58,159 --> 00:25:02,480
one, two, and three kind of exclusive.

632
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,799
So you're only giving points for one of

633
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,799
those other

634
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:09,360
» Right

635
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,120
kind of

636
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:12,480
» Unique like that. You're only getting

637
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:15,480
points.

638
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480
» Correct.

639
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,919
» Yeah. And then maybe Miss Watson to your

640
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:30,080
point I Item number four. So the site

641
00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:32,320
provides adequate usable area for for

642
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,679
the proposed current scope. Again, we're

643
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,559
still working through what that scope

644
00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:36,320
is,

645
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:38,080
» But the point I mean this is this is

646
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,400
weighted pretty high, right? It's

647
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,640
basically the land's got to, you know,

648
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,320
meet the scope um without being

649
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,400
oversized. [cough and clears throat] And

650
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,400
at some point as we get closer to the

651
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,559
final scoring, you're probably going to

652
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,480
have to start weighing in, you know,

653
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:54,799
whether or not it's got some outdoor

654
00:25:52,480 --> 00:26:00,120
recreational space. Does that fit the

655
00:25:54,799 --> 00:26:00,120
quote scope that we ultimately land on?

656
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,200
Again, it may not be an exact number,

657
00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:05,039
and I think that's kind of where we've

658
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,480
landed that I don't know that we're

659
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:08,880
going to have an exact number of how

660
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,679
many how much additional land how much

661
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,679
additional land, you know, is adequate,

662
00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:16,080
but we'll we know that it needs to be

663
00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:18,000
something, right? We I think that's kind

664
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,919
of the message that the public has said

665
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,880
that it should have some outdoor

666
00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:24,720
recreational value.

667
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,960
And when we if we get a site that shows

668
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,960
30 acres, that's going to score higher

669
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,799
than one that has 12, right?

670
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,679
» Because it's going to fit the scope

671
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,279
better,

672
00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:35,279
» You know, in the long run. And the scope

673
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:38,400
is more outdoor a little more outdoor

674
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:40,480
recreational space.

675
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:45,600
» But again, we'll we'll score this as a

676
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:47,039
unit as uh as Sophia said. So So there's

677
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,080
still be kind of a chance to talk

678
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:50,559
through that. Yeah.

679
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,840
» As it relates to each site. And again,

680
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:53,919
we'll probably end up doing that in

681
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,840
executive session so we don't end up,

682
00:26:53,919 --> 00:27:00,480
you know, letting the land owner know,

683
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:02,480
you know, where the preference might be.

684
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,159
» So with the um with that first site

685
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,520
features section, um I think that this

686
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:11,200
really is kind of like setting the whole

687
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:14,960
scene for what site it is. Um, so you

688
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:17,360
know, discussion of property owner, um,

689
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,799
what is the usable area, is there

690
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,400
significant regrading that needs to be

691
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:22,480
done. These are all things that likely

692
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,480
will kind of cost the board a little bit

693
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,640
more money. Um, so we're taking into

694
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,440
consideration all of those things.

695
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,360
» So 11, where it says existing site

696
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,880
features and amenities contribute to the

697
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:36,640
proposed development, are we talking

698
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:39,679
about like utilities or so? Um the

699
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:42,240
existing site features perhaps there is

700
00:27:39,679 --> 00:27:44,400
um I know some of the sites are near um

701
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,240
some of the baseball fields um big

702
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,960
walnut high school. So you know that

703
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,679
would

704
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,559
» Be um a positive

705
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:53,679
» Uh feature for the site. So uh items

706
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:58,679
like that

707
00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:58,679
» Or but yes utilities as well. Okay.

708
00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:06,600
» Are there any additional questions on

709
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:06,600
the site features?

710
00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:12,080
for any if so for 12 a site does not

711
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,880
require parcel assembly for multiple

712
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,440
owners. I mean to the extent that there

713
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,279
is a parcel that requires like assembly

714
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,559
for multiple owners I mean do we know

715
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:25,039
what the process is for that or will we

716
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,799
» Yeah. So um I mean I think that it would

717
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:30,480
really just be um I mean likely there is

718
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:32,080
a zoning um change but then also just

719
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,640
working with the local

720
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,640
» Okay. jurisdiction.

721
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,200
» Um I do think that it was a little bit

722
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:50,799
higher um because now it is just at a

723
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:53,039
three. We

724
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:58,679
um are not anticipating

725
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:58,679
much of a push back with that.

726
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,000
Well, the next one,

727
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,760
» Right? Uh, with zoning and legal, we did

728
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,960
uh take some of these down a little bit,

729
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,919
but um we have most of these ranked at

730
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,840
number one. Um, zoning allows proposed

731
00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:22,240
use. Uh, current zoning provides

732
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:27,919
flexibility and potential uses of the of

733
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:30,960
the property. um no overlay districts um

734
00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:32,559
requiring restrictions um and then no

735
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,799
additional commission approvals are

736
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:36,480
required. So um you know zoning is

737
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:39,279
something that can be changed relatively

738
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,320
easily working with um your local

739
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:46,240
jurisdiction but uh it would save time

740
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,840
and funds not having to reszone. So that

741
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,880
was the thought process behind that

742
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:54,799
being the highest weighted item um for

743
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:57,360
number 17. I know that um I believe uh

744
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:59,760
Sunberry and Galina just have their own

745
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,440
um commissions, but then uh with

746
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,200
Berkshire Township, you would have to go

747
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,559
through the Delaware County um

748
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,799
commission, which might take a little

749
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:08,799
bit more time. So, we we have that one

750
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:13,880
on there specifically just because of

751
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:13,880
the jurisdictional requirements.

752
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Any

753
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,600
comments on zoning

754
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,279
» For so for the liquor license

755
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,399
availability is that for like you know

756
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:34,320
flex space uses and yeah so future use

757
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:35,600
if you ever wanted to host events I mean

758
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,480
we haven't really talked about event

759
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:42,159
space or multi-purpose but um flex

760
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,159
future expansion anything like

761
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,640
I can um move on to site context if

762
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,520
there are no more questions regarding

763
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,039
that. Um so with the site context, this

764
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,240
is really about kind of the use of the

765
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:07,760
site and what the space is. So, um, we

766
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,440
have a number of different items on

767
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,320
here, but proposed community center

768
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,760
would benefit from nearby and existing

769
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:18,320
development, support services, and

770
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:20,799
amenities. Um, I think

771
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,360
we we increased this one a little bit,

772
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:25,679
but not by much. Um, it is still

773
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,720
weighted at a four, so pretty moderate.

774
00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:32,000
I think comparing what is surrounding

775
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:34,080
it, if it's in an industrial space, we

776
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,840
would likely consider that site a little

777
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,080
bit less than something that was perhaps

778
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,480
in a residential area or closer to the

779
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,320
schools. So, making sure that the

780
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,720
development fits within what is

781
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,399
surrounding it um the context of the

782
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,159
site, but then also existing

783
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:51,679
adjacencies.

784
00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:53,039
um providing uh visibility support civic

785
00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:56,799
presence landmarks. So something that's

786
00:31:53,039 --> 00:32:00,960
maybe closer located to the uh downtown

787
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:04,640
or the core of one of the EDJRD

788
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,919
um members. But then we also have uh

789
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,440
community supports the proposed

790
00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:10,240
development and location. And so we

791
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,840
found through our survey that there were

792
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,399
there was an overwhelming amount of

793
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,880
support. But I think um depending on

794
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:18,880
where this is located, if it's closer to

795
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,080
residential, closer to schools, we found

796
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:25,840
that those uh items or those locations

797
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,600
were more highly requested. So, um a

798
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:32,120
little bit more about where the general

799
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,120
area for a site would be.

800
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:40,960
For number 18, it states uh there would

801
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,440
be nearby existing development. What

802
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,840
about any future upcoming development

803
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,679
that is in the works? Are you take that

804
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,360
into account as well then or

805
00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:50,720
» Yes. So, uh we are taking that into

806
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,600
account especially the work that Rick

807
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,760
did. Um the urban decision group sites

808
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,960
uh showed a lot of proposed development.

809
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:01,519
So that is definitely something that we

810
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:03,679
will be taking into consideration. Um

811
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:05,760
number 20 is proposed development will

812
00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:07,600
positively impact adjacent future

813
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:11,519
development. So I think that we feel

814
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:14,880
that is covered under that item. But um

815
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:16,960
with this grouping of criteria in

816
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,760
particular, we'll be heavily relying on

817
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,519
Rick's information and what he collected

818
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,399
um especially in the maps that he made.

819
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:27,600
So showing where it is located or where

820
00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:30,000
potential sites are located in context

821
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:33,279
to proposed development of residential

822
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:36,480
space but also uh residential and then

823
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:38,720
also the other potential or other

824
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,720
facilities surrounding the area.

825
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,720
» Okay.

826
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:47,279
» Yeah. And I I would just add a little

827
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,279
bit related to that item 31 under

828
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:51,519
economic opportunities and benefits. The

829
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:53,039
proposed development will encourage you

830
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:55,600
know adjacent private development that

831
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,360
creates positive economic impact. So so

832
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,360
the first one seems to suggest that you

833
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,360
know that something is about to happen.

834
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,200
The other one maybe suggests that it

835
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,200
could encourage that to happen. What's

836
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,200
up?

837
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:26,480
just for my understanding context. Uh

838
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,599
could you define community partners? I

839
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,399
have something in mind. What does it

840
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,240
mean to you?

841
00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:32,159
» So I think it is subjective that that

842
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:35,520
certainly is um the case but also you

843
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:37,280
know there are a number of new um

844
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:42,000
residential developments going in. So

845
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:44,079
perhaps if there was a desire to swap or

846
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,760
donate some land so that there would be

847
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:48,000
a community center nearby. So I think

848
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,760
community partner could be the schools,

849
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,359
it could be a private developer, it

850
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:55,760
could be um village of Galina or

851
00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:59,359
Sunberry um a community partner in that

852
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:04,400
aspect. So I think it's uh just a an

853
00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:07,400
entity willing to work with our team.

854
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,400
» Okay.

855
00:35:27,464 --> 00:35:29,839
» [clears throat and cough]

856
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,119
» I know my notes stated quite a bit

857
00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:32,880
higher, but I that's why I wanted to

858
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:35,920
clarify what community partner meant,

859
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,880
how that worked together. Um, I had it

860
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:41,520
significantly higher

861
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,119
because I want this to be a community

862
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,359
center. I don't want this to be in the

863
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:46,720
corner of our jurisdiction and nobody's

864
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:47,599
around. I need this to be part of

865
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:47,920
everybody else.

866
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:49,760
» Yeah.

867
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,920
» In heart.

868
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,000
» That's why I think it's important to be

869
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,760
cognizant of our community partners, who

870
00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:00,320
they are, what their plans are, talk to

871
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:02,400
them, work with them, grow with them.

872
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,960
» Yeah,

873
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,920
» We we do think that um the community

874
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,440
partners is a very important aspect to

875
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,160
this development. I think like I

876
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,000
mentioned earlier having um utilities

877
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,680
and the site context some items in that

878
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,920
weighted particularly higher. We wanted

879
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,960
to make sure that it was all relative.

880
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,280
Um I think that with um community

881
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:26,880
support of the development but then also

882
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:29,920
um we have number 18 rated relatively

883
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,960
weighted weighted relatively high. Um we

884
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,440
think that these are going to positively

885
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,000
impact uh just based on the community

886
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,000
support. Okay.

887
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,040
One take away I had was there several

888
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:46,400
items.

889
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,200
» Yeah.

890
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,200
» Look at it as a whole.

891
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:54,359
» Yeah.

892
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:03,359
» Great.

893
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,440
» Um so utilities, both of these are rated

894
00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:08,320
pretty highly. We only have two items.

895
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,599
Um, we find that it can be like

896
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,760
relatively subjective when you're

897
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:13,680
reviewing utilities and we have had

898
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,359
enough experience with projects where

899
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,119
utilities are either not available on

900
00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:20,880
the site or uh located right relatively

901
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:23,200
far away. And so we find that these are

902
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,359
two very important um aspects when

903
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,320
considering a site. So, um, if they're

904
00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:31,440
not already on the site or very closely

905
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:34,160
adjacent, we find that, um, 500 ft is a

906
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,240
relatively acceptable distance, um, just

907
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,800
based on previous experience for how

908
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:40,800
much it would be to extend a utility,

909
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,680
um, along with any tapping capacity fees

910
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,520
usually. So, if it is not adjacent or on

911
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,240
the site itself, we still have an

912
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,520
opportunity to provide some points

913
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,440
rather than just saying they're there

914
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,000
are no utilities available on the site.

915
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:57,760
So if they're not on the site directly

916
00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:01,680
um they should be within 500 ft and you

917
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:03,359
know very similarly say three utilities

918
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,920
are available there's water sewer

919
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:08,720
electric but there's no um power or I

920
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,480
mean I'm sorry you know there are some

921
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:12,560
available utilities but they're not all

922
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:16,160
available then you could also rank that

923
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,640
second option um with that as well and

924
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,720
the profiles that we'll provide to you

925
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,560
um will have at least some information

926
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:24,720
regarding starting utilities um and what

927
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,720
is available.

928
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:28,160
So, you won't have to find find that out

929
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:30,640
on your own. We'll we'll figure that

930
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,400
out.

931
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,720
» Yeah. I've been told several times that

932
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,440
sewer is the name of the game you're out

933
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:35,839
here. So,

934
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,400
» Yeah,

935
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:39,040
» That to me ranks a lot higher other

936
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,400
ones.

937
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,359
» Yes. Yeah. Um

938
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,320
» That out.

939
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:47,200
» Yeah, we we um have had a few projects

940
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,920
up in this area that utilities are not

941
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,440
available. Um, and you'll find out

942
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,960
either a little bit later than you would

943
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,720
like to. So, we're making sure that this

944
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,280
is definitely a priority when we're

945
00:38:54,720 --> 00:39:00,000
reviewing these sites.

946
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:02,320
» Now, when I went to the new wall with

947
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,800
the fieldhouse, they mentioned they have

948
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,920
their they planned everything to go on

949
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,320
septic.

950
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,640
» Yeah.

951
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,560
» And in the process, they got soup. So,

952
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,599
that's big s. So, that's always another

953
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:17,440
option to explore it. But

954
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:20,880
» So they um I'm the project manager for

955
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:23,040
that as well. Um and we had started with

956
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,400
septic and then it was proving to be a

957
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,079
little bit difficult to find a septic

958
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,400
tank that is of that size that you would

959
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:30,640
need for a facility that size. Um it is

960
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,240
definitely possible but um it is just a

961
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,640
more expensive option.

962
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:34,400
» Yeah.

963
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,440
» Yeah. They mentioned the cost was about

964
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,920
half.

965
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,440
» Yeah. There are additional um facilities

966
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,640
that you have to build too um when you

967
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,640
do septic. So Okay. Um it is it is

968
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:48,839
always an option. It would not be our

969
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,839
first choice but it is an option.

970
00:39:54,480 --> 00:40:00,560
Um moving on to access. So this uh has a

971
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:04,000
few different aspects in it. Um you know

972
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:07,119
there are areas of the EDC JRD that are

973
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,800
relatively rural. So um that brings down

974
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:11,920
a few things. Obviously access to the

975
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,320
site. you might need to uh invest in

976
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,280
some additional roadway improvements or

977
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:22,000
any roadway, but also um then that also

978
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:25,119
takes down the um potential users of the

979
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,880
space. So um that's another one um that

980
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:29,200
will kind of have multiple impacts and

981
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,880
things leading to it. But um with this

982
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,520
list in particular, surrounding

983
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:36,400
conditions and capacity of the roadway

984
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,320
um of local or state traffic will

985
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,599
support the development um making sure

986
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:45,119
that it's not just you know um perhaps a

987
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:46,480
a grapple road. Um and then proposed

988
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,240
location needs or requirements

989
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,640
identified in the market analysis. So,

990
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:53,200
like what we were discussing with Rick

991
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:58,359
and his proposed developments or just

992
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,359
location to surrounding um residents.

993
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:06,480
We also added um item 30 to this list.

994
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,480
Um Darl mentioned that uh the Morph

995
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,400
Greenway paths and trail plans could

996
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,400
help um pull in some potential shared

997
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,599
use path options. And so making sure

998
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,800
that there is still connection

999
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:19,040
throughout the surrounding district. Um

1000
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:23,400
so making sure that we include that in

1001
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,400
connectors for shared use paths

1002
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:42,800
for access um and tying in community

1003
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:45,040
partners. Have there been any thought to

1004
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,480
connecting with the fire department to

1005
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,560
ask them

1006
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,319
If you had it your way, were there any

1007
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,160
short are there any shortcuts? Can we

1008
00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:53,599
help with that somehow one way or

1009
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,200
another? I'm just kind of thinking

1010
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:57,200
because I I think that was brought up by

1011
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,640
a resident that said, "Hey, that

1012
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,040
» Fire department would love to have a

1013
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,720
road here. They just can't pay. There's

1014
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,800
no reason to have a road here, but if

1015
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:06,000
that could help, why not?"

1016
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,480
» Yeah,

1017
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,119
» Just a thought

1018
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,000
as well.

1019
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:13,000
» Yeah, that's a really great idea.

1020
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:26,800
any additional questions with access.

1021
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,720
So then our final um final is the

1022
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,720
economic development opportunities and

1023
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,480
benefits. So this is more about what the

1024
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:35,200
proposed development of the surrounding

1025
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,599
area could be. Um location features are

1026
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,480
pos uh I'm sorry positive and marketable

1027
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:42,319
for events. um local incentives are

1028
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,079
available for development um potential

1029
00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:45,359
for cost sharing. So very similar to

1030
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,880
what you just mentioned, you know,

1031
00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:49,599
potential cost sharing and extending a

1032
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,160
roadway. Um but then also development of

1033
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:55,520
the proposed site will not reduce future

1034
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,680
taxable property to prevent um new

1035
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,960
private development. So, they're similar

1036
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,680
to what we talked about earlier. Having

1037
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,599
a site that would be in the middle of an

1038
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,400
industrial space might not be the best

1039
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:09,280
location um context wise, but also then

1040
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,280
economic development wise for the uh

1041
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,440
EDJRD

1042
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,599
um members. So, taking some

1043
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:19,680
consideration into that. Obviously, I

1044
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:21,359
think that there are plenty of very

1045
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,640
desirable sites that we are looking at

1046
00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:24,240
right now. So I don't really see that as

1047
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,480
an issue, but it is something that we'll

1048
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,760
consider making sure that the taxable

1049
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,760
revenue is not taken away from the

1050
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,760
jurisdictions.

1051
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:45,520
We also uh considered the positive and

1052
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:47,280
marketable um area. Um,

1053
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,119
and when we were thinking about this,

1054
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:52,000
you know, uh, we talked about the

1055
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:54,319
location and using urban decision groups

1056
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,119
site work, um, and taking that into

1057
00:43:54,319 --> 00:44:00,319
consideration. And

1058
00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:03,440
we find that, um, you know, it will

1059
00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:04,960
likely be positive and marketable for

1060
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,599
the community no matter where it is

1061
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,040
likely. So, um, we we felt comfortable

1062
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:12,960
with we I think we brought it up maybe

1063
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:15,359
one or two points, not um, a large

1064
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:18,000
amount, but we felt that this would make

1065
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:20,560
it wherever the site is going to be real

1066
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,280
really would make it more marketable for

1067
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:26,280
community use or also just community

1068
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,280
development.

1069
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,359
So you're referencing number 32. Is that

1070
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,480
correct? Facilities location are

1071
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:44,640
» Yes.

1072
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:47,640
» It's still on mention it went up.

1073
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,640
» Um

1074
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,160
» I'll have to go back and look at my

1075
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,160
notes, but perhaps it's supposed to be a

1076
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,160
two.

1077
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,960
Yeah, from my perspective if if if

1078
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:13,520
say that one be positive and remarkable

1079
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,599
is only ranked at one and if it's

1080
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,079
negative and not marketable and zero

1081
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:20,319
that's one point big I think should be

1082
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:22,880
quite high from my perspective I think

1083
00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:25,440
it will with all of it [clears throat]

1084
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,440
to rank

1085
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,040
Are there any questions about the

1086
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:38,880
criteria that we mentioned um or

1087
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:41,520
discussed? Um I think that as far as

1088
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,079
next steps if uh there is an approval

1089
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:47,200
from the board then we will start our

1090
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:49,839
review um as quickly as possible um so

1091
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,200
that we can get it into

1092
00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:55,839
that so that we can schedule a meeting

1093
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:58,640
to review with the EDJR board as well.

1094
00:45:55,839 --> 00:46:00,160
» Do you need approval tonight to this

1095
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:05,359
schedule?

1096
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:08,000
Slide eight. Um, I think that that would

1097
00:46:05,359 --> 00:46:10,319
uh be

1098
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,760
likely the best. Obviously, we can wait.

1099
00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:13,200
Um, but that just would push the

1100
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:18,240
schedule back. And if it's a discussion

1101
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:19,920
that needs to be had offline, then um or

1102
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,359
just in an executive session with your

1103
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,560
team, that's that's okay. But if it

1104
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:24,160
needs to wait until another board

1105
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,280
meeting, then obviously it will just

1106
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,880
impact the schedule.

1107
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:31,599
» Correct. Waiting full.

1108
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,960
» Yeah. all together.

1109
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:34,640
I just want to make sure that the other

1110
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:38,960
board members here have a chance to kind

1111
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,480
of sit, dissect, and absorb

1112
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,040
because there's a lot here. And I guess

1113
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:46,079
the one question I also have is these

1114
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,400
are are good. Then we get sites back,

1115
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:51,520
oh, this is what the rain does. We still

1116
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,839
have the latitude to use our judgment.

1117
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,599
» Yeah.

1118
00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:54,800
» Just because it rated high doesn't mean

1119
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:58,119
that's that's

1120
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,119
» Yeah, absolutely.

1121
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,720
discuss.

1122
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,880
» Yes.

1123
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,960
» Yes. So I I was writing down I mean

1124
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:15,040
maybe if we change the way it's written.

1125
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,520
So again maybe at least 10 acres is

1126
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,359
outside of the flood plane and that way

1127
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,839
you know you've got

1128
00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:25,839
» A 90,000 square foot building that you

1129
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:27,599
know fits comfortably in the space. um

1130
00:47:25,839 --> 00:47:29,359
you know maybe that it's so again it

1131
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:31,920
sort of and if something comes in that's

1132
00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:35,040
less than that you know it's scoring low

1133
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,599
and it's and it's waiting factor I mean

1134
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,680
I guess it yeah by scoring low the

1135
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:42,240
waiting factor doesn't lift it up any

1136
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,560
but if it if it's at least 10 acres it's

1137
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:47,119
outside the flood plane and it meets you

1138
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,040
know the building footprint issue scores

1139
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:50,560
high on that front it gets weighted the

1140
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,480
court three four whatever the number

1141
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,319
might be maybe that's a way to at least

1142
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,000
get keep them moving

1143
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:57,280
in the evaluation and then when we get

1144
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,680
together as a group

1145
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,640
» We can sort through it if anybody's sort

1146
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,160
of on the margins.

1147
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,920
» Yeah. And that's one of the things I'm

1148
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,760
struggling with is that this is all

1149
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:11,680
geared to the site and building. We have

1150
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,240
two simultaneous paths where we have

1151
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,079
site building and potentially outside

1152
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:19,839
area. So

1153
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:22,960
» Just try to see how to balance that in a

1154
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:25,440
criteria like this.

1155
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:29,000
So if we could change number nine to

1156
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,000
state whether

1157
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,040
I think

1158
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:42,680
» I'm sorry to what did you say?

1159
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,240
» I didn't hear what you said.

1160
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:03,480
for the flood plane. I I would say so.

1161
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,480
» I think it is going to hit.

1162
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:15,640
» I would say that is reasonable.

1163
00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:23,440
» That's the hard part. We're setting

1164
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:28,280
criteria. We don't I feel like once you

1165
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,280
see the site now used to go like

1166
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:34,440
I'll get

1167
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,440
sites

1168
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,720
all

1169
00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:03,760
explore creative

1170
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:07,319
site that meets a whole lot of criteria

1171
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,319
that might start.

1172
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:15,160
So I think this

1173
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,280
» Five

1174
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,040
sit back here.

1175
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:43,960
They don't come together.

1176
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:11,440
Yeah. And as we have your team rank

1177
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,160
them, I think especially your priorities

1178
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,319
as a board and what the site is are

1179
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,319
going to come into play um more than

1180
00:51:16,319 --> 00:51:20,720
just our like technical expertise. what

1181
00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:22,400
you want out of out of the building and

1182
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:23,680
out of the program is going to be

1183
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,000
something that's incredibly important

1184
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,720
and it might change and differ from what

1185
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,520
our rankings are, but that's why we have

1186
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:34,559
you included in those as well.

1187
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,319
» So, so really this is just a guide to

1188
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:38,000
help us think through everything that we

1189
00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:39,440
want to think. But the the the goal at

1190
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,800
the end of the day is not to say this

1191
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:47,319
scored, you know, a 123 and that was

1192
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,319
124. So, we're going with 124.

1193
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,920
down.

1194
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,920
So

1195
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:12,839
really just

1196
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,200
Yeah.

1197
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:40,760
How long?

1198
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,440
So we got to go back.

1199
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,839
This is the criteria.

1200
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,920
» Thank you.

1201
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,240
All right. Forward.

1202
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,599
» So, go ahead.

1203
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,680
» Yeah, I was gonna say, so we do we do

1204
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:45,440
have a motion to approve the criteria.

1205
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,760
So, maybe what I'm hearing is again,

1206
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,079
we're going to amend the language in

1207
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,640
item number three.

1208
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:56,400
Uh, you know, to say it I don't know, is

1209
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:58,640
it 10 or 15? I don't mean number nine.

1210
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:02,079
I'm sorry. Number nine. Number nine.

1211
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,920
Yeah. Waited three. Sorry. Um, at least

1212
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:07,880
you know 10 acres is outside the flood

1213
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,880
plane. At least 15 acres.

1214
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,319
» I'd air on the side of 15.

1215
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,000
» I'm okay with that.

1216
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:19,040
» Okay.

1217
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,240
So then with that change, like I said,

1218
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,400
there's a motion to basically then

1219
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:24,480
accept the criteria, allow them to do

1220
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,960
their ranking, then we'll come back as a

1221
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,839
board, see the top, you know, whatever

1222
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:32,240
five, three, five, 3, four, five, six,

1223
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:34,559
whatever that number looks like. We'll

1224
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:36,000
talk about it in an executive session,

1225
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,440
and we'll come out, I think, with a good

1226
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,200
sense of which ones we think are top of

1227
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,640
the list. And then they'll go out and

1228
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,280
start seeing if there's a way to secure

1229
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:46,079
the site.

1230
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,680
I mean, there's also some site.

1231
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:49,040
» They got to fit the site, too. Yeah. I

1232
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:53,319
guess we wouldn't secure the site right

1233
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,319
away. We got to make sure it fit. So,

1234
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,520
» So is there a motion? Yeah,

1235
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:01,040
» I'll make the motion.

1236
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:03,359
» All right. Second resolution 05. So,

1237
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:06,359
moved by Miss Watson, seconded by Mr.

1238
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:06,359
Koy.

1239
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,599
All right. Miss Miss Watson,

1240
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,480
» Yes.

1241
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:10,960
» Mr. Koy,

1242
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,160
» Yes.

1243
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,040
» Miss Greor,

1244
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,319
» Yes.

1245
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,720
» Mr. Muzakio,

1246
00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:15,680
» Yes.

1247
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:16,640
» Miss Savannah,

1248
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:21,760
» Yes.

1249
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:25,000
» Motion approved. 5 Z. Great. Thanks.

1250
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,000
Thank you.

1251
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:32,640
Next item on the agenda. So, we did

1252
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:34,160
resolution 202605. Next would be 2026

1253
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,319
budget update.

1254
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,839
» Um, I'm sorry. I hate to do this, but

1255
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:39,119
can we maybe go back to the meeting

1256
00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:42,559
minutes?

1257
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:42,559
Jody, if you

1258
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,480
I was not present

1259
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:56,920
but said on here the meeting was May

1260
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:56,920
21st on Sunday but I think

1261
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:05,799
so that's where earlier

1262
00:56:02,799 --> 00:56:05,799
Sunday

1263
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,640
» So Sunday was Sunday was the Sunday the

1264
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:14,799
17th was

1265
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:19,319
» Sunday

1266
00:56:14,799 --> 00:56:19,319
» And then Thursday the 21st

1267
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:27,040
» Yeah.

1268
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:29,760
» So the date and the mixed up

1269
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:33,200
» Think so I think

1270
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:35,839
» I just know I had day on 18th Sunday it

1271
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:38,319
was setting up

1272
00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:41,960
Sunday.

1273
00:56:38,319 --> 00:56:41,960
» Yeah. So, so these

1274
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:48,640
» So I think page two of the materials the

1275
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,920
second line it should say um Thursday

1276
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,920
May 21st.

1277
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,920
» Yeah.

1278
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,839
» Good catch.

1279
00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:00,480
» Well

1280
00:56:57,839 --> 00:57:02,559
» Yeah that was all Jody

1281
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:06,000
» And then because we had approved the May

1282
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:07,680
17th meeting minutes which is reflected

1283
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,720
in our minutes. See, I think if we just

1284
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,559
change Sunday to Thursday, we got it.

1285
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:14,960
So, I guess

1286
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:16,640
» Oh, I I'm sorry. I see where you are. I

1287
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,839
was down under the minutes. Yes,

1288
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,520
Thursday. Got it. Thursday, May 21st.

1289
00:57:19,839 --> 00:57:23,280
All right. Why don't we uh why don't we

1290
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:28,240
reapprove the minutes then with that

1291
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:30,480
correction. So, we'll say uh amended

1292
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,160
minutes.

1293
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:37,680
So, we've got two amendments. We've got

1294
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:40,000
the the date as in Thursday

1295
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:43,280
May 21

1296
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:46,160
and we've got then the motion the move

1297
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:50,440
and approval of resolution 04 which we

1298
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,440
get corrected in the first minutes.

1299
00:57:52,319 --> 00:57:59,480
» So

1300
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:59,480
» We have a motion to approve the

1301
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:08,200
» I'll second. So moved by Miss Greger,

1302
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,200
second by Miss Watson.

1303
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,200
» All right. Miss Greger.

1304
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,240
» Yes.

1305
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,640
» Miss Watson.

1306
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,480
» Yes.

1307
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,960
» Miss Savvada.

1308
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,160
» Yes.

1309
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,880
» Mr. Mazakio.

1310
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,079
» Yes.

1311
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,720
» And Mr. Koy.

1312
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:24,680
» Yes.

1313
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,680
» Five years. Motion approved.

1314
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,359
Great. Thank you.

1315
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,760
All right. The only other item in the

1316
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:36,240
agenda just uh a snapshot of where we

1317
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,480
are with respect to the budget. So at

1318
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,960
the last meeting we amended the budget.

1319
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:43,040
So you see the amended budget on packet

1320
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,359
page 19.

1321
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:48,079
Um

1322
00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:50,480
as we talked about um you know we will

1323
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:53,280
have to get some funding in place for

1324
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,880
accounting and audit purposes. We had

1325
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,880
talked about maybe going back to the

1326
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,680
jurisdictions and asking for the funds

1327
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,359
that were not spent in 2025.

1328
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,880
uh would they be willing to appropriate

1329
00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:05,599
those moving forward that ended up being

1330
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,839
a little short of $10,000?

1331
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:12,160
Um so the way to kind of think about

1332
00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:15,920
that um Sunbury would be at 46 46 and a

1333
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:18,160
half% of that Berkshire 43.9 Galina at

1334
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,520
9.7. I I'll put that together for the

1335
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,280
next meeting so we know the exact

1336
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:26,799
amounts that we're requesting. Um, I I

1337
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,720
will say that Sunbury has uh already

1338
00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:31,599
approved an amendment allowing for that

1339
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,040
additional appropriation. So, so we've

1340
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:34,480
at least secured that, but I'll I'll get

1341
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:39,040
the exact numbers and bring those back

1342
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:41,599
and we'll get that cleaned up. So,

1343
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:44,760
other than that, that is it on the on

1344
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:44,760
the budget.

1345
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:06,520
Next item is information.

1346
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:06,520
Any discussion?

1347
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:15,079
Then we go to next meeting before we

1348
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:15,079
adjourn. Yes.

1349
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,400
So

1350
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,079
» In the schedule you had suggested some

1351
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,119
dates. Sophia, you want to start by

1352
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:26,119
throwing those out again?

1353
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:26,119
» Yeah.

1354
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,400
» 21st.

1355
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:41,559
» I'm sorry. Was the 20th one of them or

1356
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:41,559
was it the 21st and 22? 21st.

1357
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,559
» All right. So let's see.

1358
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,119
The 21st is a Tuesday.

1359
01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:56,960
» Would we be look since it's probably a

1360
01:00:55,119 --> 01:01:00,520
two-hour meeting, would we be looking to

1361
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,520
start at what six?

1362
01:01:00,799 --> 01:01:04,720
That works.

1363
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:08,880
» So, I can't be in person on the first

1364
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:12,160
two, but I could on the second two.

1365
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:15,599
I could probably do virtual on first two

1366
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:19,720
for the 21st, 22.

1367
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:19,720
I would be traveling. So,

1368
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:24,359
» I can do any of those dates.

1369
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,480
» It would be better for me if we could do

1370
01:01:26,319 --> 01:01:32,280
it on the 29th and 30th. But if more

1371
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,280
people cannot do that,

1372
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,559
» You can do the third. Okay. All four is

1373
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,240
fine.

1374
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:46,400
That's great. [laughter]

1375
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,880
We'll

1376
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,880
» Accommodate your

1377
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,599
» Go for Thursday 30th

1378
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,160
» At 6 p.m.

1379
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,799
» Yes, that' be good.

1380
01:02:10,319 --> 01:02:13,280
All right, we want to move that back to

1381
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:15,760
Sunbury then

1382
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:19,000
» Because I think Sunbury would be next in

1383
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,000
the rotation.

1384
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,319
All right.

1385
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:33,200
July 30

1386
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:35,520
6 p.m. December. And just for planning

1387
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,440
purposes, will we be getting a like a

1388
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,640
packet before that meeting to start

1389
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,119
looking through?

1390
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,359
» Yeah.

1391
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:42,359
» Okay. That

1392
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,839
» Yeah, that would be ideal.

1393
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:16,480
Yeah. So, on that, I'll need to I'll

1394
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:19,760
need to talk to Becky just a little bit

1395
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:22,319
about the documents um just to make sure

1396
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,079
we can

1397
01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:28,520
protect those a little bit. So, I've got

1398
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:28,520
a little bit of work to do on that. So,

1399
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,160
Okay,

1400
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:37,039
» Perfect. And I'll make a motion to

1401
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:39,680
adjurnn.

1402
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:41,599
» I'll second.

1403
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:44,480
» All right. Moved by Mr. Koy, seconded by

1404
01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:45,119
Miss Sabata. Uh, Mr. Koy.

1405
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:45,839
» Yes.

1406
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:46,319
» Sabata.

1407
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:47,440
» Yes.

1408
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:48,319
» Mr. Mazakio.

1409
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,440
» Yes.

1410
01:03:48,319 --> 01:03:50,079
» Uh, Miss Greger.

1411
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,599
» Yes.

1412
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:52,319
» And Miss Watson,

1413
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:56,960
» Yes.

1414
01:03:52,319 --> 01:04:00,280
» Uh, five years. We are adjourned.

1415
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,280
Turn up.