1 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,360 Welcome Rick [laughter] 2 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:33,360 everybody. Okay. >> Good evening everybody. I'd like to call 3 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:37,680 the August 12 uh 2006 regular council meeting to order at 700 p.m. Would you 4 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:43,040 please stand for the pledge pledge of allegiance? 5 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:49,680 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 6 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:56,239 republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and 7 00:00:53,360 --> 00:01:02,440 justice for all. Okay, Sher, would you please call the RO 8 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,440 » here? 9 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:04,559 » Here, Mr. >> Melly 10 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,080 » here. >> Mr. Richmond 11 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:08,240 » here. >> Mr. V 12 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:13,040 » here. >> Thank you, Sherry. Next up is reading 13 00:01:10,479 --> 00:01:16,320 and disposal of the journal. Has everyone had a chance to review the 14 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:22,280 minutes? And are there any recommended changes or updates? 15 00:01:18,479 --> 00:01:22,280 » I had one change. 16 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,680 » Sorry, Mr. Vincent. 17 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:46,640 Uh the six I think it might be >> no page four I'm sorry. Um 18 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:49,640 the ordinance uh 2026 31 it's about one two 19 00:01:49,759 --> 00:01:56,600 the end of the fourth sentence. I think we should just add out of the production 20 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,600 line quicker. 21 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:01,439 » So what would be that set? >> So at the time it was first discussed, 22 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,399 it was going to take 30, this is regarding the generator. 23 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,439 » So at the time it was first discussed it was going to take 33 weeks to get it, 24 00:02:05,759 --> 00:02:10,800 but Mr. Dewater mentioned that they were going to try to get one for us out of 25 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,720 the production line quicker, meaning they were going to pull one out of many 26 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,319 that [clears throat] they were making. >> Thanks for the clarification. Any 27 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:20,480 others? Okay. I'd like to entertain a motion to 28 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,400 approve. >> Motion to approve as amended. Second. 29 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,959 » Okay. We have a motion approved by council president. Seconded by Mr. 30 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,239 Richmond. Sh. >> M. 31 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,760 » Yes. >> Mrs. Irish class. 32 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,040 » Yes. >> Mr. Yankee. 33 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:32,400 » Yes. >> Mr. Elliott. 34 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:33,680 » Yes. >> Mr. Richmond. 35 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 » Yes. >> Mr. Vincent. 36 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,599 » Yes. >> Okay. Uh, next up is action upon any 37 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:44,239 matter which any resident may wish to present to council. And I see some very 38 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:49,519 colorful residents in the audience. They may wish to uh say something. I also see 39 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:53,440 for judge. So, let me start. Would anybody like to speak in the orange 40 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,720 attire this evening? >> Yeah, I would. Would you please 41 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:03,360 introduce yourself for the record? >> Yes. David Morad. I'm a a resident of 42 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:08,159 Morland Hills. I am also an educator in higher education for 20 plus years and I 43 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:13,280 have two young children who will be going to the Orange Public Schools uh 44 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:18,560 very shortly. Um, the school district is here about a levy that will be on the 45 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:23,519 ballot in the fall. And as a resident, educator, and parent, I fully support 46 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:28,239 it. The Orange School District has not passed a general operating levy since 47 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:32,640 2011. That levy, 5 mills, has been in effect for roughly 14 years. And in that 48 00:03:30,799 --> 00:03:38,239 time, property tax revenues for the district have risen only modestly, less 49 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:42,080 than a million on average per year, or roughly one and a half%. Meaning they 50 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:47,519 have also failed to keep up with inflation which ran at over two and a 51 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:52,080 half% during that same time. And it's that loss against inflation effect that 52 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:55,760 I try and show a table chart in one of the handouts. 53 00:03:54,159 --> 00:04:00,879 As I speak, the elephant in the room with any levy discussion is property 54 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:05,599 taxes. And I recognize some commun community members must be asking 55 00:04:02,959 --> 00:04:10,480 themselves, how do schools need more money? Property values have exploded 56 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:14,239 over the past 10-15 years. And since levies come from property taxes on such 57 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:19,519 values, doesn't that mean that the schools have seen a windfall of cash? 58 00:04:16,479 --> 00:04:24,400 The short answer is no. Some small gains, yes, but not enough to keep up 59 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:29,040 with inflation and certainly enough not enough to match the skyroing 60 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:34,560 skyrocketing home valuation increases. The more complicated answer lies with 61 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:38,720 Ohio's House Bill 920 enacted in 1976, which generally holds that such school 62 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:44,720 levies collect a fixed or restricted number of dollars rather than a fixed 63 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:50,160 rate. Thus, even if property values rise, the amount collected can stay 64 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:54,320 roughly the same. For orange, this means the skyrocketing home values do not 65 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:58,720 equate to similar gains in school district revenues. The primary chance 66 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:03,040 for additional revenue growth comes from new construction and then a relatively 67 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:08,560 small amount of unvoted millillage. To see how this plays out, just take the 68 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:14,560 2024 Kyoga County property reappraisal, which recorded a 32% increase in county 69 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:19,600 home values. For Orange District, the assessed value increase wasn't as high, 70 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:27,919 more around 20%. From 1.26 26 billion to 1.51 billion, an 71 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:34,880 increase of roughly $250 million. Yet, none of that money, or next to none of 72 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:40,080 it, is going to the schools. Again, House Bill 920 reduces the rate 73 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:45,520 on voted levies to offset rising values, leaving only the district's 5.2 mills of 74 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:50,800 unvoted millage to collect on that increased value. That millage produced 75 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:56,400 roughly $1.3 million in additional school revenue, about 1.5% of the 76 00:05:53,919 --> 00:06:01,919 property value rise. In short, it's a onetime step increase of roughly 2% 77 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:08,240 against a potential tax base increase of 20%. I can give you my own personal 78 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:13,360 story. My property taxes rose in that rep reappraisal by 20%. To almost 79 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,560 $1,000. You would think Orangeville school 80 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:22,479 districts would see a lot of that. They see roughly $160 of that. Why? How? How 81 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:28,000 can this be? Where does the rest of it go? It's Ohio, so it's complicated. But 82 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:32,639 one answer is that it simply gets shifted around, transferred among 83 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:38,400 neighbors rather than generating any new tax revenue. Here's one example. how I 84 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:42,240 perused just out of curiosity a few multi-million dollar properties in 85 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,360 Morland Hills Orange District area and found several whose property taxes did 86 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:52,639 not shift much at all, much less than the 20% rise that mine did. There was 87 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:57,520 also at least one multi-million dollar property whose tax burden actually fell 88 00:06:55,039 --> 00:07:03,120 during that period by nearly eight times the amount that mine went up. 89 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:08,319 I am not calling out any properties and I'm not naming names. I'm simply 90 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:14,160 explaining how the system works that it's a shift between neighbors often 91 00:07:10,479 --> 00:07:20,560 rather than any revenue uh generated. So in conclusion, the reality is true. Ohio 92 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:25,039 has a very real property tax problem, but one reason is a problem is because 93 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:30,000 it's almost by design that the schools will be perennially lacking money. by 94 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:35,360 design that revenues cannot keep up with costs. The cost of labor, materials that 95 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:40,479 always are rising in the econom economy, but revenues are always always capped. 96 00:07:39,039 --> 00:07:43,759 » Respectfully, I have to ask you to wrap it up because we we usually 97 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:48,000 » none of this I got one small paragraph and then I'm done. None of this is 98 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:51,280 orange school's fault. None of this is the fault of Orange leaders and 99 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:56,000 absolutely none of it is the fault of our children and of our students. the 100 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:01,199 people in this room, the people of Morland Hills, we can't resolve the 101 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:06,240 state issues, but we can resolve hopefully the school levy issue from our 102 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:12,240 own end. I I think we can do that and I believe we should. I thank you for your 103 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:16,160 time. There are additional um uh tables and slides that contain a lot more 104 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:21,199 factual information about what's happening at the school district, where 105 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:26,800 levies have been over the past 20, 30, 40 years, how it's been 15 years since 106 00:08:24,479 --> 00:08:30,800 uh Orange went to the voters for a levy and so on and so forth. If you have 107 00:08:28,479 --> 00:08:32,719 questions, I or definitely those on the school board, I would be able to take 108 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:35,360 them. >> Thank you, Mr. Mor. 109 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:39,440 » Thanks. Or anybody else like to speak this evening? Yeah, I'll yield some of 110 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:43,919 my time to the Orange School since that's probably more important. I make 111 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:47,440 mine shorter. I wasn't planning on talking today. I was just planning on 112 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:51,519 introducing myself, but since you give me an opportunity, I will. 113 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:55,839 » My name is Tim Koharsski. I'm an attorney in Cleveland. I live in Solen. 114 00:08:54,399 --> 00:09:01,839 I'm running for the Bedford Municipal Court Judge. It's an open seat in 2027. 115 00:08:58,959 --> 00:09:06,320 I've been a trial attorney for 33 years. I represent people on their very very 116 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:10,720 worst days when they're looking at their wives, their children that they may not 117 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:16,320 be able to go home to their wives. They going to lose their freedom. I love what 118 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:21,360 I do. Uh, as I said, I've been an attorney for 33 years. I've been a 119 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:25,440 part-time pro municipal prosecutor. I've been a special prosecutor. I practice in 120 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,120 federal court. I practice in all the courts in the state of Ohio. I'm a 121 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:34,560 graduate of the Case Western Reserve University. Uh, I'm been appointed to be 122 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:41,040 on the CGA panel to represent federal criminal defendants. Uh, but at 58 years 123 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:45,600 old, I've determined that I can do more help to people if in fact I'm a judge 124 00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:51,519 rather than helping one person at a time. So, I'm looking to be a judge at 125 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:55,680 the court where I think that too often we just put prosecutors in or people 126 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:59,760 that are in the court. I think it's time that we put someone that's actually done 127 00:09:57,519 --> 00:10:05,200 in real practice that actually sees what happens to people. I think the court 128 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:09,120 needs to use different alternatives, programming, different whether it's 129 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,640 traffic, whether it's driver suspensions. There's a lot of reasons as 130 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,480 why people go into municipal court. Municipal court is the low-level court. 131 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:20,640 It's not felony court. It's not common please. It's lowle. There's ways that we 132 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:25,600 can help these people. Uh we don't need to put people in jail for any extended 133 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:29,040 period of time. Uh, I'll be here more uh talking to you about what I intend to 134 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,519 do, but just a brief introduction of who I am. 135 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:34,320 » Thank you, Mr. I appreciate you coming this evening. 136 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:38,399 » Would Would anybody else in the audience care to speak this evening? 137 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:44,000 » All right. Well, I thank you for coming. Um, I I will move on then uh to uh 138 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:49,120 report some communications from the mayor and other municipal officials. And 139 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:54,160 I will start. Uh I've got a few updates for council here. The first is um you're 140 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:58,720 all probably wondering what's happening with AT&T since this has been taking 141 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:05,120 quite a long time. So I I'm here to give you an update. Uh Mr. Hannah and I have 142 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:09,360 been uh continuing to have conversations with AT&T, 143 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:14,880 but we also are still getting hung up on the same legal issues that we've been 144 00:11:10,959 --> 00:11:22,560 talking about for several months. And um we are at this point um going to step 145 00:11:19,839 --> 00:11:28,560 back and and evaluate whether continuing in the current phase or whether other 146 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:31,920 paths may be more sensible here to try to move this thing forward. I get 147 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:37,600 questions from residents all the time about this project. And um and uh I'm 148 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:41,600 I'm anxious to to make progress and we're just not getting there. I don't 149 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:46,720 know Mr. Hannah, if you would like to make a comment or two, feel free. 150 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:52,880 » Sure. Uh, Mayor, I I mean, I would uh echo those comments. I think, you know, 151 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:58,399 we we've had a a long and uh relatively uh comprehensive discussion with AT&T 152 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:02,480 um about, you know, the necessary ingredients from the villages 153 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:08,399 perspective for a lawful agreement that doesn't constitute an um an 154 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:12,240 inappropriate or unlawful subsidy using public funds to a private corporation. 155 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:17,519 And you know it gets a little more complicated than that of course but um 156 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:23,279 but we are continuing to find working through those issues very challenging. 157 00:12:19,839 --> 00:12:29,839 And so um one of the options um down the road could be revisiting the RFP that 158 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:33,360 the village issued previously. Um and uh you know thinking about the other 159 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:38,959 respondent I think there was just the one correct 160 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:42,880 » to that and uh and and see you know if we're not able to make this work with uh 161 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:47,120 with AT&T with whom the village has been negotiating um you know it may be 162 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:54,959 possible to commence a different discussion um or to revisit the RFP um 163 00:12:51,760 --> 00:13:01,120 itself and and reissue a uh an RFP to try to more carefully calibrate what the 164 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:04,160 village is seeking um visav people who may be interested in providing it. 165 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:08,720 » Thank you. [clears throat] >> Sure. 166 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:12,160 » If you have questions, let me know. Um or you can obviously also talk to me 167 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:17,920 anytime. Give me a call or a text and I'd be happy to give you more detail. Uh 168 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:22,560 a few other things. So, I'd like to remind everybody we're having a music 169 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:27,279 event in two days and we have uh Mr. Mar here uh who was spoke this evening who's 170 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:29,839 going to be performing and perhaps his spouse might perform. 171 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:32,240 » Oh, I know. >> No. 172 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,920 » Okay. Well, we have him and we have three other residents that are going to 173 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:45,279 be sprinkled inter sprinkled in performing with a our our primary act um 174 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:48,480 which is um Jason Patrick Meyers. And I I encourage everybody to come. I looks 175 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:51,760 like the weather's not going to rain. We'll see. It's going to be cloudy, but 176 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,600 it looks at least the latest is that it's going to stay dry. So, I hope we 177 00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:02,339 can have some fun and I hope hope to see you there. Um, let's see. A couple other 178 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:05,279 things. Um, [clears throat] I want to bring to 179 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:10,480 council's attention something that I had a discussion with the Mr. Water and with 180 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:16,560 Sher, I think it was yesterday or the day before um regarding the pavilion 181 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:22,320 rental process. Um, we continue to have issues with the rental process up there 182 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:28,639 where people are not respecting our rules like emptying their trash. They're 183 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:35,120 drawing um I don't know if it's chalk or pens on the on the heartscape up there 184 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:40,240 that we can't seem to remove. Um they're leaving the bathrooms a complete mess. 185 00:14:37,839 --> 00:14:43,360 Um, and we're doing the best. The service department is doing a great job 186 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:48,639 to try to get up there in between rentals, uh, and and take care of 187 00:14:46,079 --> 00:14:54,160 things, but I think, uh, I'm going to make some changes to the rules. Uh, I 188 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:57,760 don't care to imple implement them until next year because we've already kind of 189 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:02,959 set the rules for the season and we're sort of getting toward the end of the 190 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:08,800 season. But, um, my proposal, nothing final. I welcome input or call me or if 191 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:12,480 you have any input tonight. Um the primary things that that we discussed 192 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:16,639 that I'd like to do is number one go to full day rentals rather than trying to 193 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:20,720 do half and half because it creates and most other communities are doing kind of 194 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:25,600 full days. So you rent it for the whole day and you've got it the whole time and 195 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:30,880 we're not trying to um run up there for an hour in between two groups and clean 196 00:15:28,079 --> 00:15:36,000 everything. Second, I'm going to require a deposit for all rentals. we only 197 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:41,199 require deposit for rentals when um people are food truck 198 00:15:37,839 --> 00:15:44,079 » and we're finding that um we're spending extra cost going up there to clean up 199 00:15:42,959 --> 00:15:50,320 things that they're supposed to be doing. So I think if we have a a a 200 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:54,560 deposit that is forfeited if some of these things happen, I think we'll be in 201 00:15:52,079 --> 00:15:58,959 better shape. And then the third is to raise the rate uh for non-residents. And 202 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:05,120 I don't know what the rate exactly is going to be yet, but um it will be a 203 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:08,959 larger gap between residents and non-residents because I think we have 204 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:13,440 more recourse on residents when they do these things than non-residents and and 205 00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:17,360 it's pretty common that other communities either don't rent to 206 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,839 non-residents or they charge more. So those are the things that are going on. 207 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,680 I welcome your feedback. We're not doing anything till next season like I said, 208 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:27,519 but I think change some changes are in order and I'm going to let you guys know 209 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:34,399 about that. And then the last thing I'll say uh tonight is around power outages. 210 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:38,160 We continue to have them. Um I've been all over I've written many letters. 211 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:43,199 You've seen maybe some of the social media posts that Sherry's helping with. 212 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:47,600 We I've reached out to our elected officials. Um I had our councilman reach 213 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:52,959 out to me again and I told him what we're doing. He said he'll help whatever 214 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:59,680 we can. I think just making our story known that we need more attention from 215 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,120 um from First Energy here to address some of these problems. I know it's not 216 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,480 a short-term problem, but I'm just going to stay on it. I just think it's it's 217 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:12,880 not acceptable level of service that we're getting. Um and you know, 218 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:16,079 hopefully with the collective voice and some of the other communities around 219 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:17,600 here that are doing similar things, we'll get some action. 220 00:17:17,531 --> 00:17:23,439 » [clears throat] >> I mean, my next my next step may be to 221 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:27,039 go to Pukco about it, too. I don't know. I haven't done that yet. That's the one 222 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:31,200 thing I haven't done. But anyway, I just wanted you to keep you guys know this is 223 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:34,880 something that's on my agenda. >> I just want to add to that. I um we 224 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:40,559 talked to the council um that um I'm I share the survey with 225 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:44,960 Pepper Pike so far so that they can copy it. they can also send it out to their 226 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:49,520 residents and we talked maybe about collectively getting those te that 227 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,640 testimonial data data in case we want to go to 228 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:55,679 » so now that that we would have it and if we get Pepper Pike or Bentleyville I 229 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,960 think was interested >> mayor has reached out to me as well. 230 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,559 » Okay. So I can share the survey with them as well. 231 00:17:59,919 --> 00:18:04,080 » Great. >> And so I think if we were to get 232 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,840 multiple communities together and then compile that testimony data I think we'd 233 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:12,080 have a good case. So >> thank you for that. Thank you for your 234 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:16,320 efforts on it. I appreciate >> maybe I really appreciate that. 235 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:23,679 » Okay, that's all I've got, but thank you. Um, I will move on to our our uh 236 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:27,200 department heads. So, let me start with the police report. I think the chief is 237 00:18:25,679 --> 00:18:32,160 on there, but we have the lieutenant in the in the chambers here. So, you guys 238 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:35,679 take it away. >> He just messaged me. I think he might 239 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,559 have just got bounced out of here. >> Okay. Um well, Lieutenant, 240 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:42,240 » the only thing we really wanted to address today is because we brought it 241 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:47,280 up, uh roads and safety at the last meeting, um the flock. So, right now, 242 00:18:45,039 --> 00:18:53,679 we're shooting for to get a flock representative if we if we still want to 243 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:59,840 entertain that and open it for anybody uh via Zoom. Uh it would be September 244 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,880 2nd at 7 p.m. is what we're shooting for. We kind of bounce back and forth 245 00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:06,160 [clears throat] between some emails. 246 00:19:05,679 --> 00:19:10,240 Okay. >> So, right now that's that's just what we 247 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:14,559 recommend. Try to get done this way. We can address it all together. We can't we 248 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:17,760 can hear it straight from Fox's mouth on whatever questions or whoever wants to 249 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:22,000 bring whatever up. This way it's we're not playing telephone or just come it 250 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:27,039 can come straight from them. >> I appreciate that. Thank you 251 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,080 » Juliet for that. >> Okay. Thank you. Mr. Dwire, do you have 252 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:33,919 a report this evening? >> Uh only thing to report on is for 253 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:39,760 continuing on drive forward replacements. Um, you guys are moving 254 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:45,120 right along with that. And with that, we did have a road culver failure on river 255 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:48,240 road that discussing with Jeff and I think our crews are going to replace 256 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:50,960 that in house. >> Okay. Okay. Where what section of river? 257 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:56,240 I didn't see. >> So, it's north of Shagrin Boulevard, 258 00:19:53,440 --> 00:20:02,400 maybe about 75 ft. There's actually a steel plate on the road covering it 259 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:06,960 right now. And it is properly safe down >> uh patch rounded and pinned. Okay. 260 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:12,080 » And there is signed. All right. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Appreciate 261 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:16,520 that. Uh, let's see. I will move on to the engineers report. Mr. Polarski, 262 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:25,559 you're on mute. He's on mute, right? 263 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:37,679 » Mr. Farsy, are you there? Okay, I will circle back with you, Mr. 264 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:42,320 Farski, and we'll move on and come back. And if you're having any uh technical 265 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:47,679 difficulties there, Mr. Mr. Shaw, have a uh finance report this evening. 266 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:54,320 » Uh yes, here may. Um I have one quick report and I'm trying my for some reason 267 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:57,360 my video won't work. Um so [snorts] 268 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:04,320 our income tax, as I mentioned last month, um is still on the downward trend 269 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:11,360 right now. Um, as of this month, um, August 1st, we were down 270 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:15,840 by approximately 12%. It's just a reminder, you know, for a 271 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:21,760 city or a village like Morland Hills, um, we rely on individual income taxes 272 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:28,720 and, uh, market conditions or what have you, uh, can certainly impact us, um, 273 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:38,000 very rapidly. So in in dollars we are down about $527,000 274 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:42,799 um year to date. Um again our budget was conservatively estimated um at even less 275 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:48,240 than that. So we are fine as far as the budget is concerned. Um but as far as 276 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:54,159 actual cash and revenue collections we are down. So just a heads up. 277 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:58,240 » Other than that don't have a report mayor. 278 00:21:55,360 --> 00:22:02,240 » Okay. Thank you. Just are you you've been doing this a long time, Pashant. Do 279 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:07,600 you think this is a timing? Do you have concerns it could be continuing 280 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:12,640 or uh and are there things you think we should be looking at now or watch 281 00:22:09,919 --> 00:22:16,799 closely and see later? >> Well, you know, a couple of concerns 282 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:21,919 there. Nothing I I guess I I'm going to say income tax up and down. You know, 283 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:27,679 we've seen this over the years. Um and being on the Rita board, I've seen um 284 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:32,880 statewide collections are also down a little bit. So um not alarmed yet. Um 285 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:37,039 but I am concerned about you know all these other talk about property taxes 286 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:41,200 and all those things and if all this comes together with u reduction in 287 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:47,919 income tax revenue which is our main source of revenue and um property tax is 288 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:52,320 also u being discussed um you know we'll have to look at it 289 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:56,320 keep an eye on it and I'm sure you may um are familiar with all the things 290 00:22:53,840 --> 00:23:00,640 going on statewide because uh as part of your mayors and managers association 291 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:04,720 they do have discussions on Uh, but I'm I'm certainly keeping my eye 292 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:07,919 on it and keep you informed as we go along. 293 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,320 » Okay. I appreciate that, Mr. Shot. Thank you. 294 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:15,440 » You're welcome. >> Uh, the building department report uh 295 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:19,760 all on vacation is my understanding. So, I don't think we will have that report 296 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:22,240 this evening. So, uh, Mr. Hanner, do we have a law report this evening? 297 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:27,520 » Um, no, we don't. >> We do not. Okay, then I will circle back 298 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:31,600 one more time with Jeff to see if I can get him. 299 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:38,120 Uh, I did text him, but he didn't respond to that. So, maybe he is having 300 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,120 some troubles. Jeff going once. 301 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:45,679 Going twice. Okay, Jeff, I'm gonna move. Oh, wait a 302 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:51,840 minute. There he is. >> Yeah, sorry about that. I uh mistakenly 303 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:57,840 left my laptop and using my phone and my fingers are fat. So, uh [laughter] 304 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,880 I have uh nothing to report. Mayor and Council. 305 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:06,240 » Oh, okay. >> After all that, 306 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:12,480 then we will move on to appointments and confirmations. We have none. Uh, no 307 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:16,640 petitions, communications, petitions, and claims 308 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:24,400 this evening. So, I'll move to reports of committees. The first is a report of 309 00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:30,080 the BCAM planning on August 3rd. Uh, Mr. Richmond, do you have a report? 310 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:37,760 » Uh, thank you, Mayor. Uh so uh BZA met August 3rd. We just had one item and 311 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:45,440 that was a square footage variance for a detached garage and covered patio at 30 312 00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:53,520 Addison Lane and that was uh approved. Um we also uh besides the player house 313 00:24:50,159 --> 00:25:03,279 camp matter which uh will come up later in the agenda we had other items. One 314 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:12,000 was the um design for that uh the tax garage at 30 Addison. Uh we also had two 315 00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:20,880 um designs for new dwellings. one at 45 Stern Crest and one at 110 Meadow Meadow 316 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:28,400 Hill Lane, sorry. Um all three uh were approved. Um all three were were subject 317 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:35,440 to um site plan revisions, engineering uh review and approval and 318 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:45,919 particularly to um new drawings were also subject to a um septic uh permit. 319 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:50,400 uh from the county health district >> conclude planning and BCA. 320 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:54,720 » Thank you, Mr. Richmond. Appreciate it. Um next is the facilities from the 321 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:58,799 meeting report for the meeting on August 4th. Uh Mr. Vincent. 322 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:05,440 » Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um minutes stand in the in the packet there in the 323 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:08,480 dropbox. Um the highlights uh are that uh the foot bridge replacement has 324 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:12,720 started. In fact, it's going so well that they did another one. So, um, they 325 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:14,640 got some donated clay. I guess it was donated, correct, Ted? 326 00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:19,919 » Yeah, donated >> from Morland Commons to, uh, kind of 327 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:23,919 help assemble the the kind of earth bridge and, uh, and it's been a good 328 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:27,120 project for the service department. So, that's moving along well. I don't know. 329 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,080 Do you have any other reports? Is it actually done this week or is it pretty 330 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:33,760 close to being done or >> I know they're uh, we're putting the 331 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:39,360 clay on the second dump for the second bridge today. They were working up 332 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:42,480 there. Rain did slow us down a little. >> That's all I wanted to let folks know. 333 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Otherwise, >> thanks Mr. Richmond. 334 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:49,240 Mr. Mr. Vincent, my apologies. 335 00:26:50,400 --> 00:27:00,159 » Roads and safety also met on August 4th. Mrs. Irish, you have a report. 336 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:05,600 » Um, thank you for mentioning the block system camera system. Um, I was going to 337 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:11,760 mention what you said, so thank you for sharing. Takes that off my list. Um, we 338 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:19,039 did have um an extensive discussion with a resident um of Miles Road in the Scrap 339 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:24,400 Ball Morland Hills area. Um, she had emailed me expressing concern about the 340 00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:30,240 the speed in that area on Miles Road. So, she attended the meeting um shared 341 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:38,159 her concerns, talked about how she had um reached out to Shrint Hall's roads 342 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:43,840 and safety committee um as well and how it may um they felt it may have to be a 343 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:48,880 combined effort to take a look at that road if we were going to do anything 344 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:54,399 about it with with the village. Um, but what she's saying is the stretch there 345 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:59,279 between Solen, where Solen Road starts and intersects with Miles heading 346 00:27:56,399 --> 00:28:04,880 westbound, um, is currently 35 miles per hour, um, she feels it's it's too high 347 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:11,919 of a speed limit for that area being very, uh, dense in residential um, 348 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:17,440 homes. So, she was coming to ask Beth if we would take a look at it in the area. 349 00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:21,440 Um, by the end of the conversation, uh, Chief Diesel stated he'd be happy to 350 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:25,760 install a speed box in the area going westbound, also eastbound to to do a 351 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:31,840 seven-day study to take a look at the speeds. Um, that's currently in process 352 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:36,399 um because it takes some time to get all that, make sure that we're not putting a 353 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:42,799 poll where their utilities are lying. So, um, that's sort of our next steps to 354 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:48,000 evaluate that. Jeff uh Floreski shared that there is a who you know this 355 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:52,880 process that you have to go [laughter] through to change a speed limit of any 356 00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:58,080 road. Um there are several factors involved with that. So um at this point 357 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:03,760 we're just we're gathering information. So I wanted to give you all an update on 358 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:09,200 that. Um, I see that we have this later on the 359 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,799 agenda, but just briefly, Chief Diesel reported that there is a recommendation 360 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:19,279 from planning to allow eight buses to access the Hyram Trail three times per 361 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:25,360 day. And then uh finally, Mr. Farski shared that um there's a 362 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:29,360 challenge of developing a storm water drainage system around East and West 363 00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:36,320 Juniper. um and he discussed several different 364 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:40,320 options of how to address that. Um we're still in discussions on or he's still in 365 00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:44,640 discussions on trying to figure out the best option is. So that's where we are. 366 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,840 » That's it. >> Thank you very much. 367 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:51,440 » If I may really quick, the speed box on Miles Road eastbound is already up. So 368 00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:54,960 it's pulling data to see if we actually do have a speed problem there. The 369 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:59,840 officers have been sitting there pretty much every shift right now day and 370 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:03,919 night. Uh we're doing like two 30 minute uh stretches there. So we're not just 371 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:08,559 camping there and then nobody's moving at all. So uh we haven't had any 372 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:14,399 violations whatsoever yet. The speed box is pulling data. So when users not there 373 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:18,480 speed box is doing its thing. We did mark one of the polls. Oops. Is did oops 374 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,240 already come out? >> Oops. So we put poll up tomorrow. 375 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,520 » So the poll will be up tomorrow for the westbound traffic. Then we'll be 376 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:30,880 monitoring one week eastbound and westbound traffic with our speed boxes 377 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:36,000 and it'll give us data on flow rates, how many vehicles are coming and going 378 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:40,320 and then speeds. >> Thank you very much, Tom. Appreciate 379 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:47,440 that. >> Okay. Uh parks commission met on July 380 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:53,360 20th. Uh Mr. Yon, do you have a report? Uh yeah, I was not in attendance, but I 381 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:59,360 did speak with the um with the treatment works chair about it. Uh really only uh 382 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:04,799 I'll let the minutes stand. Only other you know follow up with uh the mayor 383 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:08,640 already stated this Friday and the Hills if you could come up and 384 00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:13,760 support it be great. >> Thank you council president. Appreciate 385 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:19,279 that. Uh next is the DEIB commission that met on July 21st. Uh, Miss Davis or 386 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:23,440 Mr. Richmond, do any of either of you have a report? 387 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:32,399 » I have a a brief one. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, minutes um not yet available due to 388 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:36,880 some uh of personal reasons of uh the officers, particularly the minute 389 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:43,440 writing officer. Um, so quick highlights. Uh first of all, regarding 390 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:49,519 ongoing projects, um not too late to get your recipes in 391 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:55,279 for the cookbook, a lot have been in um and they're in the process of figuring 392 00:31:52,240 --> 00:32:03,519 out how best to display them on their uh on the DDI web page. Uh this Saturday, 393 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:08,799 August 15th, from 10 to 2, uh the commission will have a table at the 394 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:14,960 Orange Arts Center. I believe they'll be um 395 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:24,062 sponsoring a uh drawing of faces of our community uh uh craft at the DEIV table. 396 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:31,279 Uh it should be a great event. Um [clears throat] the um joint book club 397 00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:40,399 with uh green commission um regarding the book grading sweetg grass has been 398 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:44,480 set for October 22nd at 6:30 uh p.m. Uh the we are Morland Hills event. Uh 399 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:51,519 everybody is working very hard to make this bigger and better than it has been 400 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:57,120 before. Um, so far the food truck Frosty Gator will be there. Uh, Blue Cadillac 401 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:01,600 will be there uh for the first uh hour and a half or so and then there'll be uh 402 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:07,200 line dancing for the second hour and a half which should be fun. Uh there'll be 403 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:15,760 again resource tables and a cornole tournament and um potential uh stuff uh 404 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:24,960 for kids. Um there's a food bank volunteer opportunity November 12th from 405 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:32,240 6:00 to 8. Uh the web page as well as um we are more than host there will be 406 00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:39,279 forums if anybody wants to uh join those uh join those volunteering and um that's 407 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:43,679 the uh that's the base of kindness. >> Thanks again Mr. Richmond. Appreciate 408 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:48,960 it. Uh let's see. Last is the green commission from two meetings July 8th 409 00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:53,919 and August 5th. Uh Mrs. Irish class, would you like to make comments or 410 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:58,880 » um we had a free cycle of that this past Sunday. It was several people attended 411 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:06,159 and took away many bags of items including myself. Um so that was that 412 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:12,320 was good. Um we had um two meetings ago, the rust belt writers presentation was 413 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:16,560 very informative. Um, I learned a lot um about food waste and how much it's 414 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:22,159 contributing to the to the methane and the in the atmosphere and um they will 415 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:26,800 be bringing they're they're still taking a look at pricing and bringing some 416 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:30,359 options to the village as far as what that might look like. 417 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:38,079 » All right. Thank you. That that concludes reports of committees. So move 418 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:43,040 on to uh approval of bonds, contracts, plats. Uh in this section, we do have 419 00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:47,760 something we've put there, which is the Hyram House camp uh conditional use 420 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:52,399 modification uh to allow egress onto Hyum Trail for 421 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:57,839 up to eight regular buses and one special education bus during specified 422 00:34:54,639 --> 00:35:02,720 time periods. Uh Mr. Richmond, are you going to present this this evening? 423 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:08,720 » I I will. Thank you very much. Uh so it it's um you know a high room house camp 424 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:15,680 uh requested informally in some preliminary hearings 425 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:22,240 uh and formally at the uh public hearing at uh the the last planning commission 426 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:25,520 meeting uh requesting modification of their conditional use. actually kind of 427 00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:30,640 modification of the previous modification of of their traditional 428 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:36,320 use. Uh specifically modifying you may recall there were seven conditions in 429 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:44,079 2023. The specific modification would be condition number one uh that currently 430 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:52,960 only allows ingress of buses to the access road. And the uh request 431 00:35:47,200 --> 00:36:00,560 modification was uh egress for at three periods of time. 432 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:06,800 um once in the morning for eight of stu regular students and one bus for 433 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:14,720 special education students um uh for egress on high trail in in the uh in in 434 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:23,440 the morning specifically at at present time between the hours of 7:30 8 7:55 435 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:30,240 and twice uh in the afternoon uh one approximately typically uh 245 436 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:38,880 uh for um Brady students and one approximately 345 for uh Morland Hill 437 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:42,560 students and the uh Y is the school uh and Hyram [clears throat] presented that 438 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:48,960 um that we'll be able to um and the 439 00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:53,839 transportation director um worked all this out that they're expecting delay 440 00:36:50,720 --> 00:37:01,280 time to be reduced by 15 Um, and those 8 hour those eight buses 441 00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:09,920 represent about 23 cars that would be removed from the queue at um uh at at 442 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:14,160 Gail Allison. Um I I stated at the planning commission that I I thought our 443 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:21,119 job was kind of really summarized kind of by the one line in our conditional 444 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:25,040 use um ordinance and that is that uh the conditional use regulations are quote 445 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,359 intended to ensure that conditional uses are reviewed in a reasonable equitable 446 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,800 manner while safeguarding property rights of all individuals and the 447 00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:37,680 health, safety and welfare of the entire community. In other words, a balancing 448 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:45,920 of property rights, if you will, of of Hyram House uh with the um need to 449 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:52,640 overall um look at the interest of Morland Hills um as a whole. And um in 450 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:59,920 order that for the planning commission to uh to balance those uh we first have 451 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:06,000 really two or two things. Uh first our our police department um and our 452 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:12,960 engineering uh department uh reviewed the situation. Police department 453 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:18,880 actually went out uh and staged um and and examined the uh traffic at those 454 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:26,000 times and also talked with the um transportation director at Orange. And 455 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:33,520 um neither uh bottom line neither uh the the chief nor our engineer felt that um 456 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:41,200 there would be any material traffic delays at high trail uh due to the the 457 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:46,400 staggered nature of of this um uh bus traffic of this egress and bus traffic. 458 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:52,480 Now on the flip side, I thought that it would be helpful in reducing 459 00:38:49,520 --> 00:39:00,640 uh the queue on Gail Allison Drive, helpful in reducing traffic um backing 460 00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:06,400 up at Sugarin and S and [clears throat] helpful in reducing the possibility that 461 00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:12,640 emergency vehicles might get stuck in that queue without being able to get 462 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:20,320 through. Um and so we had a public hearing. Um also there there were um 463 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:27,520 just uh basic besides the school board um individuals who were um who were also 464 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:34,160 residents uh there was one um individual who um who expressed support. There were 465 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:41,040 two individuals that indicated not not so much opposition but that um they 466 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:46,480 didn't want they didn't think more than hills um 467 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:51,440 should and and higher trail should be responsible for what they they they 468 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:56,880 thought was a school issue. Um and the planning commission uh we basically uh 469 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:04,000 and and and I as a council member basically think uh you know this is not 470 00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:12,079 just a school issue. Um higher house and school are also institutional residents. 471 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:16,000 Many Mor Hills residents have um have uh children that go to orange schools. But 472 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:22,160 most importantly, um 473 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:28,160 the uh the requested modification is is not expected to 474 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:33,520 hurt and affect Hyram Trail residents based on our engineer and our uh police 475 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:40,560 departments. Its intent is to help and expected to 476 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:49,040 help by again freeing up the queue by um by lessing traffic at some degree and 477 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:55,119 reducing possibility of of hyum. Um and the the other kind of solace uh the 478 00:40:52,960 --> 00:41:03,359 other item to to recall is this is really in effect a a two-year 479 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:10,800 modification because recall in two years That will be the fiveyear mark uh where 480 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:17,839 the um hyram house has to come back to us with a new traffic study showing all 481 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:27,119 the alternatives that uh alternative uh to to using a hyum um to um and and how 482 00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:34,640 those may or may not require still the need for a hyum and they need uh uh to 483 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:42,079 do that two years from Now, so long story short, um we recommended that 484 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:45,680 council approve um the requested modification 485 00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:52,720 to the conditional use, specifically the request to modify condition one to also 486 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:57,520 allow egress on the Hyram Trail of up to eight regular buses and one special 487 00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:03,920 education bus in the morning during the 7 to 9:00 a.m. time frame and twice in 488 00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:13,200 the afternoon during the 2 to 4:00 time frame. Provided that all other existing 489 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:18,640 conditions 2 through 7 from 2023 um 490 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:25,280 be uh remain in full force in effect. Uh so that's um that's the base. happy to 491 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:32,480 answer any questions and then I could um I got to repeat that in motion form uh 492 00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:37,200 in order to uh to make a motion to approve 493 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:40,720 » commission recommendation >> for the record you had mentioned that 494 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:43,839 Hyram House has to come back in two years to with a new plan and I think you 495 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,960 mean orange schools >> well I actually mean hire house because 496 00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:51,359 they're the applicant >> they're [clears throat] 497 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:55,920 I mean schools will will come with them and the schools put together the traffic 498 00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:01,280 study but high house is the actual >> they own they own they own 499 00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:04,640 » they own the land own >> so they are very 500 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,720 » if they didn't if they didn't want to do it the school couldn't come and sit on 501 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,440 » okay >> correct 502 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:19,359 » thank you Mr. Richmond. Any uh questions or clarifications from anybody? I I'd 503 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:25,839 just like to make a comment that I was at the meeting. I'm happy to uh serve on 504 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:30,000 the same planning commission. And um I support this modification. I'm not a 505 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,280 vote tonight, but I just want to let council know I support the modification. 506 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:38,160 I think it's the right thing to do to support our schools. And I do think we 507 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:42,720 need to uh make it clear to the schools though that they need to make more 508 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:47,440 progress on evaluating options by the time they come back in two years because 509 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:52,480 that was the expectation three years ago and uh I stated that at the meeting but 510 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:58,880 I just want to let you guys know. >> Appreciate that. Um if there's no other 511 00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:06,960 questions, I'm I'm definitely assuming um that um this is the the proper um 512 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:10,880 method to approve a conditional use by motion that 513 00:44:09,359 --> 00:44:14,160 » consistent with the council's past practice. 514 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:22,480 » All right, great. So, I I'm I'm make a motion that um we approve the requested 515 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:31,119 um modification to the existing conditional use. specifically that we 516 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:40,560 approve the request to modify condition one of the seven conditions uh currently 517 00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:45,680 in force uh to allow [clears throat] egress onto Hyru Trail of up to eight 518 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:51,119 regular buses and one special education bus in the morning during the 7 a.m. to 519 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:57,119 9:00 a.m. time frame and twice in the afternoon during the 2:00 p.m. to 4:00 520 00:44:53,440 --> 00:45:03,520 p.m. time frame provided that all the other conditions two through seven 521 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,880 of the current conditional use remain in full force and effect. 522 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:10,880 » Second. >> Okay, we have a motion Mr. Richmond 523 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,599 seconded by I couldn't hear. I think it was Mr. Melly. 524 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,960 » Yes, sir. >> Out of time. 525 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:21,280 » Mr. [laughter] >> Both sides of Steve 526 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,319 Sher, would you call the rules? >> Sados. 527 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,640 » Yes. >> Mr. Squ. Yes, 528 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,560 » Mr. Yankee. >> Yes, 529 00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:28,000 » Mr. Melly. >> Yes, 530 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:29,200 » Mr. Richmond. >> Yes, 531 00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:32,319 » Mr. Vza. >> Yes. 532 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:37,920 » Okay. Thank you, Mr. Richmond. I will move on. I think I'm moving right on to 533 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:42,240 ordinances. So, the first ordinance this evening is 2026-34, 534 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:48,319 an ordinance authorizing the mayor to execute a contract with Mr. Excavator, 535 00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:52,880 Inc. for the village complex retaining wall project and declaring an emergency. 536 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:57,680 Mr. Vincent, will you be presented? I will. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so yeah, 537 00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:01,760 so there were five bids received for the uh comp village complex retaining wall, 538 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:06,240 which includes all the wall behind the police station all the way down to the 539 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,839 sally port. Um, so it's pretty big uh pretty big area. Um, there were good 540 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,960 bids. There were five of them, like I said, and they were pretty tight uh to 541 00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:20,319 each other, ranging from 162,500 to 183,288 542 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:27,520 with the lowest uh bid being Mr. Excavator Inc. at 162500. 543 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:31,599 Um and uh uh Mr. Blowski informed us that the um at the facilities meeting 544 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:35,200 that the Mr. Estavator is actually responsible for the site work on on the 545 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,160 village campus here. So they are familiar with our site. Um which I was 546 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:41,440 happy to hear because they're going to be taking down a retaining wall and just 547 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:46,880 leaving it, you know, exposed for a while. So so they have familiarity. Um 548 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:51,760 so with that, I would uh recommend that we pass this make a motion to suspend. 549 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,040 » Second. Okay. Minion to suspend the rule seconded by council president Sherry. 550 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,480 » Miss David, >> yes. 551 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,839 » Mrs. Irish class. >> Yes. 552 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,040 » Mr. Yaki. >> Yes. 553 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,319 » Mr. Melly. >> Yes. 554 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,839 » Mr. Richmond. >> Yes. 555 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:06,359 » Mr. Vincent. >> Uh, yes. Any questions? 556 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:14,560 None. Okay. I'll make a motion passage, please. Second. Okay. We motion passes. 557 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,640 Second by Mr. Nelly. Would you please call the role? 558 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,079 » Miss Deas? >> Yes. 559 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,440 » Mrs. Irish Glass? >> Yes. 560 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,640 » Mr. Yaki? >> Yes. 561 00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:22,000 » Mr. Melly. >> Yes. 562 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,280 » Mr. Richmond. >> Yes. 563 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,440 » Mr. Vinc. >> Yes. 564 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:32,400 » Okay. Thank you, Mr. Vincent. I'll move on to 2026-35, 565 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:38,319 an ordinance amending section 157.03, members terms of chapter 157 parks 566 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:42,880 commission of the codified ordinances to delete the language permitting a 567 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:49,200 community member to serve an an additional term and to modify the 568 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:53,599 term length. Um, it should say prohibiting a community member to serve 569 00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:56,560 an additional Oh, no. No, excuse me. I'm sorry. That is correct. Permitting a 570 00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:01,520 community member to serve an additional term and to modify the term length for 571 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:05,680 two appointments made at year end 2026 and declaring an emergency. And council 572 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:12,400 president, >> thank you. Thank you. Um so this was 573 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:20,640 made uh because we are coming up on uh eight years of the uh of the creation of 574 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:27,920 the uh parks commission. Um and we've realized that we would have a quite a 575 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:33,280 few uh members essentially turn limited. Uh this is the only commission that had 576 00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:37,760 was set up as such. Uh and we found it best practice to align it with the other 577 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:45,520 commissions. um that people would like to continue to serve uh then they should 578 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:52,960 be afforded that uh afforded that uh availability. So basically the language 579 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:57,440 um also uh since it it changes two of the appointments though and we have uh 580 00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:03,440 there's some staggering in there versus all four terms because when someone 581 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:08,640 comes on uh you know if someone uh steps away the new member assumes the balance 582 00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:13,280 of that term so it doesn't start four years it'd be time to join. So that way 583 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:18,079 we've got a little uh overlap so we're not okay everybody we know all new 584 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:24,319 people come in and you kind of lose that continuity of of what we've been doing. 585 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:30,880 So that was what uh what uh this ordinance addresses um with that I'd 586 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:33,520 like to suspend the rules. Second suspend the rules second by Mr. Vincent 587 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,960 Sherry. >> Yes. M David. 588 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,359 » Yes. >> Mrs. Irishb 589 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,559 » Mr. Yankee. >> Yes. 590 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,839 » Mr. Millie. >> Yes. 591 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,119 » Mr. Richmond. >> Yes. 592 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:46,119 » Mr. Veteran. >> Yes. 593 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:46,119 » Any questions? 594 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,400 Like to make a move for passage. 595 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,440 Second by Miss. 596 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,200 » Yes. >> Yes. 597 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,920 » Yes. >> Yes. 598 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:14,000 » Okay. Thank you, council president. Next up is 2026-36, 599 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:17,440 an ordinance creating the police capital and equipment replacement fund within 600 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:21,839 the financial records of the village of Mormon Hills and declaring an emergency. 601 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:27,680 Miss Davis. >> Yeah. So, um I think we talked last time 602 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:32,000 or the time before about um needing u to separate the funds or Mr. Shaw had 603 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:36,400 talked about this um uh from the auditors that they have to segregate the 604 00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:43,040 reserves um the police and service. So they're um establishing this is to 605 00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:47,359 establish two distinct funds. Um and uh let's see if there's anything else I 606 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:51,280 said about it. Um yeah, this is to set aside reserves for future capital 607 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:56,240 equipment needs in the police department and um the equipment replacement fund u 608 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:59,440 which is the same fund that they were using for the reserves for the service 609 00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:05,040 department. So this is essentially just separating them into two distinct funds 610 00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:08,960 to comply with the auditor. Um and Mr. shot and letting if you have anything 611 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:13,040 else you'd like to add to that. I probably covered that. 612 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:17,280 » No, I think you did just fine. Thank you. You covered it well. 613 00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:20,079 » All right. Um, I'd like to make a motion to suspend the rules. 614 00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:23,839 » Second. [clears throat] >> Okay. We have a motion to suspend the 615 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,520 rules. Second by Mr. Vincent. Would you call? 616 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,880 » Mos. >> Yes. 617 00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:28,240 » Mrs. Irish. >> Yes. 618 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,520 » Mr. Yaki. >> Yes. 619 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:30,880 » Mr. Milly. >> Yes. 620 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,240 » Mr. Richmond. >> Yes. 621 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,319 » Mr. Vincent. >> Yes. 622 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,319 » Okay. Any questions? 623 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:40,640 » Okay. Passage. 624 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,400 » Second. >> Hey, we have M passage. Seconded by Mr. 625 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,760 Richmond. Sherry. >> Mel. 626 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,200 » Yes. >> Mr. Clutz. 627 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,559 » Yes. >> Mr. Yankee. 628 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,839 » Yes. >> Mr. Mlly. 629 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:51,119 » Yes. >> Mr. Richmond. 630 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,720 » Yes. >> Mr. Vincent. 631 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,640 » Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. I'll move on to 632 00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:03,440 2026-37, an ordinance creating the service 633 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:08,319 capital and equipment replacement fund within the financial records uh of the 634 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:14,866 village of Mormon Hills and declaring an emergency and that will be presented by 635 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,886 Miss Class. [laughter] 636 00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:25,440 » Thought I was reading the same one already. 637 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:32,000 for the artifact author's recommendation to segate segregate the two reserve 638 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:38,160 funds placed similar to um organs in establishing accumulation of reserves 639 00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:42,480 for future capital and support. So um I'd like to make a motion to 640 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:47,200 suspend rules second. >> Okay, we have a motion to suspend the 641 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,480 rules seconded by Miss Davos. Would you roll? 642 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,160 » Mos. >> Yes. Mrs. Irish class. 643 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,520 » Yes. >> Mr. Yankee. 644 00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:52,800 » Yes. >> Mr. Melly, 645 00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:54,160 » yes. >> Mr. Richmond, 646 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,559 » yes. >> Mr. Vincent, 647 00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:01,760 » yes. >> Any questions, comments? 648 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,839 » Motion. I'd like to make a motion for passion 649 00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:07,920 for pass. Second by Mr. Vincent. >> Okay. 650 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,839 » Miss David, >> yes. 651 00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:11,200 » Mrs. Mr. Yankee, 652 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,400 » yes. >> Mr. Melly, 653 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,680 » yes. >> Mr. Richmond, 654 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,760 » yes. >> Mr. Vincent, 655 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:20,079 » yes. >> Okay. And our last ordinance this 656 00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:22,880 evening is 2026-38. An ordinance providing additional 657 00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:27,760 appropriations, transferring items already appropriated and declaring an 658 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:30,480 emergency will be presented by Mr. Mali. Sir, 659 00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:34,640 » yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh so this is part of our monthly housekeeping. Uh it 660 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:41,200 is providing certain expenditures for village hills for the uh fiscal year. Uh 661 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:46,240 there is an exhibit A attachment uh that is public record uh discuss the precise 662 00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:51,040 amounts uh for engineering study for health insurance for some miscellaneous 663 00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:58,800 cabinet expenses and for some refunds. Uh these are detailed out in in that uh 664 00:53:56,240 --> 00:54:04,520 in the exhibit A attachment. Um again this just normal housekeeping that we do 665 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,520 to transfer funds. 666 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:12,400 Uh with that, I'll make a motion to spell the rules. 667 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:18,079 » Second. >> We have a second 668 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,520 by Mr. Vinc. >> Yes. 669 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,040 » Mrs. Irish. >> Yes. Mr. Yaki. 670 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:22,160 » Yes. >> Mr. Mi. 671 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:23,440 » Yes. >> Mr. Richmond. 672 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:28,319 » Yes. >> Mr. 673 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:33,119 » Yes. Are there any questions? Was the engineer studying? 674 00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:39,200 » Uh that related something we already did. Well, that I would need to ask a 675 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:42,079 shot. Not the engineering study, uh, the $10,000 allocated for the engineering 676 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:47,760 study. >> Right. So, for the year we had budgeted 677 00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:52,240 about $40,000. Um, and I think we've had some additional projects come along the 678 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:57,440 way. Um, and right now we are about 5,000 short in that fund. What I'm doing 679 00:54:54,720 --> 00:55:00,960 is adding another five additional 5,000 which hopefully will take us through the 680 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:05,760 rest of the year. So, the total budget for the year will be about 50,000. 681 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:11,440 Oh, I see. It's really more so engineering studies plural rather than 682 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:15,520 study, right? >> I'm sorry. I should have clarified. So, 683 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:19,520 those are all expenses for engineers bills for any projects that he's worked 684 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:23,960 on so far this year. >> Got it. Thank you. 685 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:29,800 » Appropriation, right? Again, it's not a specific. 686 00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:29,800 » Yeah. Yeah. 687 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:39,280 Okay. Oh, make a motion for us. >> Okay. We have motion. Motion for passes. 688 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,480 Seconded by Miss David. Would you please >> Miss David? 689 00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:43,040 » Yes. >> Mrs. M. 690 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,160 » Yes. >> Mr. 691 00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:45,440 » Yes. >> Mr. Richmond. 692 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,280 » Yes. >> Mr. Vincent. 693 00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:52,160 » Yes. >> Okay. Thank you, council. That concludes 694 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:56,240 ordinances this evening. I'll move on to miscellaneous business by members of 695 00:55:54,160 --> 00:56:00,799 council. Does anyone have miscellaneous business this evening? 696 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:10,000 I guess I have a question. Going back to the opening uh update on the AT&T or the 697 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:14,799 fiber, um if we were to go back for RFP, um would you envision that it would be 698 00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:19,200 the same sort of process for getting back to help us and all that? 699 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:22,400 » I do not envision that. I think we could do it on our own with Mr. Hannah, 700 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:26,720 honestly, because I think we have most of what we got there. And I think some 701 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:30,880 of the the legal stuff that we failed to put in the first one, 702 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:34,799 » um, Mr. Hannah would assure that we have got it. 703 00:56:31,359 --> 00:56:42,109 » Um, I will tell you, I've also had, uh, Omni Fiber reach out to me. I've had, 704 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:45,599 um, Spectrum reach out to me. Again, [clears throat] 705 00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:52,079 I'm not sure that that one is viable, but there's a new group within Spectrum, 706 00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:55,280 Hope Springs Eternal, and they um and they're now trying to market larger 707 00:56:54,079 --> 00:57:00,079 projects. >> I have no idea what that really means. 708 00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:02,319 It was just a one conversation, but they're going to come back to me as 709 00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:05,920 well. >> Um and my if we go this route again, we 710 00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:10,400 haven't Yeah, >> sure. They've done it. I I would imagine 711 00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:14,160 that Sugar Valley Geek may still have interest, although they they're pretty 712 00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:17,040 bogged down with a lot of work that they have right now is my understanding. But 713 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:20,240 it'd be interesting to see if they did ramp up as they intended to in terms of 714 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:28,240 the >> capacity they have for you know 715 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:34,160 one nice thing about the fact >> we haveations that we will not have the 716 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:39,520 same similar issues or we don't know as of yet 717 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:44,319 with with that that we're having with AT&T. 718 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:48,480 » Uh I don't know that I can answer that. I don't think I really know. 719 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,280 » That would be just sort of be guessing at the moment. 720 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:54,559 » Yeah, that's just wondering whether we had a sense of 721 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:58,799 » but I think that if I think that if the conversation is framed Sorry 722 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:03,200 if the conversation is framed differently um you know and maybe 723 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:09,119 keeping in mind the experience that we've had, we can avoid some of that. 724 00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:12,960 And if the step of reformulating an RFP were taken and reissuing that, of 725 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,720 course, we would be really clear about, you know, avoiding some of those 726 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,920 pitfalls. >> Sure. 727 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,720 » Okay. >> I guess a bit since we go from the scam. 728 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:25,680 Uh, do we know how much of the village now has been covered by AT&T? I think it 729 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:29,839 was close to 20% back in January, March or so. And they 730 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:33,839 » I do not know that answer. I certainly that would rebase any expectations we 731 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:37,599 would have for fewer households for any RP we put out. 732 00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:42,000 » I would assume >> um 733 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:45,440 I would suspect that too. Well, unless we wanted to give them choices beyond. 734 00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:48,240 » Sure. >> Yes. 735 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:52,960 » I guess the other the other question is given the shortfall that was reported 736 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:57,359 today that we're already half a million short of expected. 737 00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:01,440 » Would there be a consideration of wanting to keep our powder dry, you 738 00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:06,160 know, to the $200 million? >> Very good point. I think before we were 739 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:10,319 um proate, we would have that discussion. 740 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:14,480 No doubt. Anybody 741 00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:20,720 else have any slips? >> Yeah, I just had um I just had actually 742 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:24,160 a couple quick things. Um one was um the survey. I was just going to leave open 743 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:28,559 for the month unless anyone had any ideas to close it. I just assume that 744 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:34,200 we'll have more power outages and more people be like, "Yeah, let's fill this I 745 00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:34,200 think August is a good monthly 746 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:43,200 especially if we're going to have other you know um aing communities giving the 747 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:48,160 survey as well. I feel like a while but I just wanted to check with everyone. 748 00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:53,599 And then um the second thing um was uh about the um some of you had sent um 749 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:56,880 stuff about the internship. Um and so I I was just going to recommend thinking 750 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,839 about spec I didn't put specific dates in anything and I didn't put specific 751 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:04,160 number of reference letters or any of that. So maybe thinking about all those 752 01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:08,799 things before the next council's whole meeting then we can work that out. And 753 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:13,599 the last thing was I got an email about the Ohio disability conference. I don't 754 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:17,040 know anything about it. Do you all do we go to that? Do we participate in that or 755 01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:21,680 do we get anything out of that? Like what is that about someone? 756 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:25,760 » We we do get materials from the Ohio Municipal League, but I don't believe 757 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,839 we're members. >> Okay. I just get these emails. 758 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,920 » Oh, we are. >> Oh, okay. 759 01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:35,280 » Oh, we know was a different one. I'm think there's multiple organizations 760 01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:37,920 like this and some we've chosen not to participate. Maybe OML. We do. 761 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,920 » We do. >> We do get a newsletter from them. Like 762 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:46,480 I'll read from time to time. It'll be a legislative update from them saying this 763 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,920 is what's going on Columbus. This is the impact of local communities. And I like 764 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:53,040 to be able to read those things. >> Okay. 765 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:56,319 » But I've never been to a conference that >> the reason I bring it up is they had 766 01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:04,480 » Oh, so I was just going to say I they the village sent when I first goed 767 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:08,240 to OML sponsored new newly elected officials. Very helpful. 768 01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:10,720 » Yeah, we did that one I think. But um this other one that they were having, I 769 01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:14,720 I just saw that they were talking about three different things that might be 770 01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:18,079 useful for us. Like one was um Ohio property taxes. I know we're kind of 771 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:23,280 dealing with that. Um and then the energy landscape was one of them. So So 772 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,599 I don't know if that's something we think about doing. I guess next month or 773 01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:29,760 something. >> Their annual annual conference. 774 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,599 » Yeah. September 30th, October 2nd. So I don't know that 775 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:35,839 » Thomas >> I 776 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,520 saw the email before I came in here today. 777 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,760 Um, >> we could take a look at it and I mean I' 778 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:46,559 I'd be supportive of if someone wants to attend or um depending on when it is I 779 01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:48,400 could possibly attend. I don't know. I haven't seen whether I could make it. 780 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,799 But >> you can get those by the way by email if 781 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,400 you would have to get them every Friday. 782 01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:57,119 » Okay. >> Because I went to that one conference 783 01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:00,160 and they come on the list. [laughter] >> Well, maybe that's why. 784 01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:02,960 » Yeah. >> But it looks it looks like it might be 785 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,240 useful. some of the topics might be useful uh to us specifically with all 786 01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:09,920 things that we're dealing with right now. Um so that was just a thought I 787 01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:13,960 had. That's it. >> Thank you. I appreciate that. 788 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:21,119 » Anybody else have anything? >> Just wanted to confirm that everyone 789 01:02:18,319 --> 01:02:25,920 received my email around the salaries and the 790 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:30,799 » um by council the whole I hope that I have um firmed up that information. Like 791 01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:34,799 I said, it was just internet based research, but I want to call each each 792 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,359 city. And if you think of any other cities I should reach out to, let me 793 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:43,920 know. >> Is are the OERS benefits the um are they 794 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:49,280 linear? Like we get half a credit at 6,000. Uh so does it scale? Do you do 795 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:53,599 you know based on the based on the salary whenever the salary just times 796 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:58,680 the same? I know that from my district job to this, you know, it's like same. 797 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:08,720 Uh I had one other thing and Steve thank you for sending out the um your email 798 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:14,559 with us today. >> Um we we did start a discussion uh at 799 01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:18,160 the committee of the whole. I think some of us were under under the understanding 800 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:26,319 we were you know going to kind of start from scratch. Uh and um after further 801 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:30,799 discussion uh realized that we have a good foundation 802 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:37,680 um of those is it four there four or five there's you know five categories 803 01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:43,599 um we all agreed that what we would do was look at them um you know see if 804 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:49,359 there's any modifications that might need to be made and maybe identify uh 805 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:56,240 some short-term actions we could take to advance toward the goals uh or even 806 01:03:52,079 --> 01:04:00,799 something you know longer term uh not not necessarily a a concrete goal but 807 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:07,920 something we're always you know working toward. So just just yes would like to 808 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:12,000 uh you know remind people to take a look at that hopefully come prepared at the 809 01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:17,599 next briefing. >> Great. Thank you president. 810 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:25,440 » Yeah. Yeah. Just to real quick follow up that those those initial goals 811 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:31,520 uh have goal stated goal and then objectives with most of which are more 812 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:36,400 general rather than specific action items. 813 01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:42,000 So maybe we also look to see whether there's any specific action items that 814 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:50,720 we think maybe we're not doing that we want to do versus that six new goal that 815 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:56,720 I was proposing that I also added at the end of that email that doesn't has that 816 01:04:54,240 --> 01:05:02,640 has the goal doesn't have the objectives but does have a list of potential action 817 01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:06,240 items just just FYI. So when you look at it, you know, 818 01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:11,440 um what's there? 819 01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:14,640 » Okay. Thank you. >> Anything else? 820 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:19,440 » Oh, one of the the first things I brought up 821 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:23,200 uh when I when I joined uh council was that, you know, some of the information 822 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:28,079 on our website was a little dated. Like for instance, the road map was 2022. Uh 823 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:31,760 I've been looking around. It looks great. A lot of the stuff has been 824 01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:37,250 updated. It's current. Um if that's Sherry that's the individual departments 825 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:39,270 uh it's it's fantastic to have you know [laughter] 826 01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:47,359 it's Sherry to be able to go to our site and get 827 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:51,119 information so I just wanted to make sure to address 828 01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:58,799 that was something I said earlier this year so circling back around uh it's 829 01:05:54,079 --> 01:06:03,920 it's nice to to have that uh usefulness >> thank you and thank Mr. That's great. 830 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:06,319 Appreciate that very much. >> All right. Do I have a motion to 831 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,680 adjourn? [clears throat] >> So moved. Second. 832 01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:12,880 » Okay. We have a motion to pass the presence by Mr. Richmond. 833 01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:15,520 » Miss David. >> Yes. Mrs. Irish. 834 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,799 » Yes. Mr. >> Yes. 835 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,079 » Mr. Mik. >> Yes. 836 01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:19,280 » Mr. Richmond. >> Yes. 837 01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:24,559 » Mr. Bington. >> Yes. 838 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:28,240 » Non non meeting item. Mana bread. 839 01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:30,720 » Oh no. That's what that is. >> All right. 840 01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:43,400 Yeah, feel free to take down there too. Nice. Thank you. 841 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,400 » I've had it before.