Welcome Rick [laughter]
everybody. Okay. >> Good evening everybody. I'd like to call
the August 12 uh 2006 regular council meeting to order at 700 p.m. Would you
please stand for the pledge pledge of allegiance?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and
justice for all. Okay, Sher, would you please call the RO
» here?
» Here, Mr. >> Melly
» here. >> Mr. Richmond
» here. >> Mr. V
» here. >> Thank you, Sherry. Next up is reading
and disposal of the journal. Has everyone had a chance to review the
minutes? And are there any recommended changes or updates?
» I had one change.
» Sorry, Mr. Vincent.
Uh the six I think it might be >> no page four I'm sorry. Um
the ordinance uh 2026 31 it's about one two
the end of the fourth sentence. I think we should just add out of the production
line quicker.
» So what would be that set? >> So at the time it was first discussed,
it was going to take 30, this is regarding the generator.
» So at the time it was first discussed it was going to take 33 weeks to get it,
but Mr. Dewater mentioned that they were going to try to get one for us out of
the production line quicker, meaning they were going to pull one out of many
that [clears throat] they were making. >> Thanks for the clarification. Any
others? Okay. I'd like to entertain a motion to
approve. >> Motion to approve as amended. Second.
» Okay. We have a motion approved by council president. Seconded by Mr.
Richmond. Sh. >> M.
» Yes. >> Mrs. Irish class.
» Yes. >> Mr. Yankee.
» Yes. >> Mr. Elliott.
» Yes. >> Mr. Richmond.
» Yes. >> Mr. Vincent.
» Yes. >> Okay. Uh, next up is action upon any
matter which any resident may wish to present to council. And I see some very
colorful residents in the audience. They may wish to uh say something. I also see
for judge. So, let me start. Would anybody like to speak in the orange
attire this evening? >> Yeah, I would. Would you please
introduce yourself for the record? >> Yes. David Morad. I'm a a resident of
Morland Hills. I am also an educator in higher education for 20 plus years and I
have two young children who will be going to the Orange Public Schools uh
very shortly. Um, the school district is here about a levy that will be on the
ballot in the fall. And as a resident, educator, and parent, I fully support
it. The Orange School District has not passed a general operating levy since
2011. That levy, 5 mills, has been in effect for roughly 14 years. And in that
time, property tax revenues for the district have risen only modestly, less
than a million on average per year, or roughly one and a half%. Meaning they
have also failed to keep up with inflation which ran at over two and a
half% during that same time. And it's that loss against inflation effect that
I try and show a table chart in one of the handouts.
As I speak, the elephant in the room with any levy discussion is property
taxes. And I recognize some commun community members must be asking
themselves, how do schools need more money? Property values have exploded
over the past 10-15 years. And since levies come from property taxes on such
values, doesn't that mean that the schools have seen a windfall of cash?
The short answer is no. Some small gains, yes, but not enough to keep up
with inflation and certainly enough not enough to match the skyroing
skyrocketing home valuation increases. The more complicated answer lies with
Ohio's House Bill 920 enacted in 1976, which generally holds that such school
levies collect a fixed or restricted number of dollars rather than a fixed
rate. Thus, even if property values rise, the amount collected can stay
roughly the same. For orange, this means the skyrocketing home values do not
equate to similar gains in school district revenues. The primary chance
for additional revenue growth comes from new construction and then a relatively
small amount of unvoted millillage. To see how this plays out, just take the
2024 Kyoga County property reappraisal, which recorded a 32% increase in county
home values. For Orange District, the assessed value increase wasn't as high,
more around 20%. From 1.26 26 billion to 1.51 billion, an
increase of roughly $250 million. Yet, none of that money, or next to none of
it, is going to the schools. Again, House Bill 920 reduces the rate
on voted levies to offset rising values, leaving only the district's 5.2 mills of
unvoted millage to collect on that increased value. That millage produced
roughly $1.3 million in additional school revenue, about 1.5% of the
property value rise. In short, it's a onetime step increase of roughly 2%
against a potential tax base increase of 20%. I can give you my own personal
story. My property taxes rose in that rep reappraisal by 20%. To almost
$1,000. You would think Orangeville school
districts would see a lot of that. They see roughly $160 of that. Why? How? How
can this be? Where does the rest of it go? It's Ohio, so it's complicated. But
one answer is that it simply gets shifted around, transferred among
neighbors rather than generating any new tax revenue. Here's one example. how I
perused just out of curiosity a few multi-million dollar properties in
Morland Hills Orange District area and found several whose property taxes did
not shift much at all, much less than the 20% rise that mine did. There was
also at least one multi-million dollar property whose tax burden actually fell
during that period by nearly eight times the amount that mine went up.
I am not calling out any properties and I'm not naming names. I'm simply
explaining how the system works that it's a shift between neighbors often
rather than any revenue uh generated. So in conclusion, the reality is true. Ohio
has a very real property tax problem, but one reason is a problem is because
it's almost by design that the schools will be perennially lacking money. by
design that revenues cannot keep up with costs. The cost of labor, materials that
always are rising in the econom economy, but revenues are always always capped.
» Respectfully, I have to ask you to wrap it up because we we usually
» none of this I got one small paragraph and then I'm done. None of this is
orange school's fault. None of this is the fault of Orange leaders and
absolutely none of it is the fault of our children and of our students. the
people in this room, the people of Morland Hills, we can't resolve the
state issues, but we can resolve hopefully the school levy issue from our
own end. I I think we can do that and I believe we should. I thank you for your
time. There are additional um uh tables and slides that contain a lot more
factual information about what's happening at the school district, where
levies have been over the past 20, 30, 40 years, how it's been 15 years since
uh Orange went to the voters for a levy and so on and so forth. If you have
questions, I or definitely those on the school board, I would be able to take
them. >> Thank you, Mr. Mor.
» Thanks. Or anybody else like to speak this evening? Yeah, I'll yield some of
my time to the Orange School since that's probably more important. I make
mine shorter. I wasn't planning on talking today. I was just planning on
introducing myself, but since you give me an opportunity, I will.
» My name is Tim Koharsski. I'm an attorney in Cleveland. I live in Solen.
I'm running for the Bedford Municipal Court Judge. It's an open seat in 2027.
I've been a trial attorney for 33 years. I represent people on their very very
worst days when they're looking at their wives, their children that they may not
be able to go home to their wives. They going to lose their freedom. I love what
I do. Uh, as I said, I've been an attorney for 33 years. I've been a
part-time pro municipal prosecutor. I've been a special prosecutor. I practice in
federal court. I practice in all the courts in the state of Ohio. I'm a
graduate of the Case Western Reserve University. Uh, I'm been appointed to be
on the CGA panel to represent federal criminal defendants. Uh, but at 58 years
old, I've determined that I can do more help to people if in fact I'm a judge
rather than helping one person at a time. So, I'm looking to be a judge at
the court where I think that too often we just put prosecutors in or people
that are in the court. I think it's time that we put someone that's actually done
in real practice that actually sees what happens to people. I think the court
needs to use different alternatives, programming, different whether it's
traffic, whether it's driver suspensions. There's a lot of reasons as
why people go into municipal court. Municipal court is the low-level court.
It's not felony court. It's not common please. It's lowle. There's ways that we
can help these people. Uh we don't need to put people in jail for any extended
period of time. Uh, I'll be here more uh talking to you about what I intend to
do, but just a brief introduction of who I am.
» Thank you, Mr. I appreciate you coming this evening.
» Would Would anybody else in the audience care to speak this evening?
» All right. Well, I thank you for coming. Um, I I will move on then uh to uh
report some communications from the mayor and other municipal officials. And
I will start. Uh I've got a few updates for council here. The first is um you're
all probably wondering what's happening with AT&T since this has been taking
quite a long time. So I I'm here to give you an update. Uh Mr. Hannah and I have
been uh continuing to have conversations with AT&T,
but we also are still getting hung up on the same legal issues that we've been
talking about for several months. And um we are at this point um going to step
back and and evaluate whether continuing in the current phase or whether other
paths may be more sensible here to try to move this thing forward. I get
questions from residents all the time about this project. And um and uh I'm
I'm anxious to to make progress and we're just not getting there. I don't
know Mr. Hannah, if you would like to make a comment or two, feel free.
» Sure. Uh, Mayor, I I mean, I would uh echo those comments. I think, you know,
we we've had a a long and uh relatively uh comprehensive discussion with AT&T
um about, you know, the necessary ingredients from the villages
perspective for a lawful agreement that doesn't constitute an um an
inappropriate or unlawful subsidy using public funds to a private corporation.
And you know it gets a little more complicated than that of course but um
but we are continuing to find working through those issues very challenging.
And so um one of the options um down the road could be revisiting the RFP that
the village issued previously. Um and uh you know thinking about the other
respondent I think there was just the one correct
» to that and uh and and see you know if we're not able to make this work with uh
with AT&T with whom the village has been negotiating um you know it may be
possible to commence a different discussion um or to revisit the RFP um
itself and and reissue a uh an RFP to try to more carefully calibrate what the
village is seeking um visav people who may be interested in providing it.
» Thank you. [clears throat] >> Sure.
» If you have questions, let me know. Um or you can obviously also talk to me
anytime. Give me a call or a text and I'd be happy to give you more detail. Uh
a few other things. So, I'd like to remind everybody we're having a music
event in two days and we have uh Mr. Mar here uh who was spoke this evening who's
going to be performing and perhaps his spouse might perform.
» Oh, I know. >> No.
» Okay. Well, we have him and we have three other residents that are going to
be sprinkled inter sprinkled in performing with a our our primary act um
which is um Jason Patrick Meyers. And I I encourage everybody to come. I looks
like the weather's not going to rain. We'll see. It's going to be cloudy, but
it looks at least the latest is that it's going to stay dry. So, I hope we
can have some fun and I hope hope to see you there. Um, let's see. A couple other
things. Um, [clears throat] I want to bring to
council's attention something that I had a discussion with the Mr. Water and with
Sher, I think it was yesterday or the day before um regarding the pavilion
rental process. Um, we continue to have issues with the rental process up there
where people are not respecting our rules like emptying their trash. They're
drawing um I don't know if it's chalk or pens on the on the heartscape up there
that we can't seem to remove. Um they're leaving the bathrooms a complete mess.
Um, and we're doing the best. The service department is doing a great job
to try to get up there in between rentals, uh, and and take care of
things, but I think, uh, I'm going to make some changes to the rules. Uh, I
don't care to imple implement them until next year because we've already kind of
set the rules for the season and we're sort of getting toward the end of the
season. But, um, my proposal, nothing final. I welcome input or call me or if
you have any input tonight. Um the primary things that that we discussed
that I'd like to do is number one go to full day rentals rather than trying to
do half and half because it creates and most other communities are doing kind of
full days. So you rent it for the whole day and you've got it the whole time and
we're not trying to um run up there for an hour in between two groups and clean
everything. Second, I'm going to require a deposit for all rentals. we only
require deposit for rentals when um people are food truck
» and we're finding that um we're spending extra cost going up there to clean up
things that they're supposed to be doing. So I think if we have a a a
deposit that is forfeited if some of these things happen, I think we'll be in
better shape. And then the third is to raise the rate uh for non-residents. And
I don't know what the rate exactly is going to be yet, but um it will be a
larger gap between residents and non-residents because I think we have
more recourse on residents when they do these things than non-residents and and
it's pretty common that other communities either don't rent to
non-residents or they charge more. So those are the things that are going on.
I welcome your feedback. We're not doing anything till next season like I said,
but I think change some changes are in order and I'm going to let you guys know
about that. And then the last thing I'll say uh tonight is around power outages.
We continue to have them. Um I've been all over I've written many letters.
You've seen maybe some of the social media posts that Sherry's helping with.
We I've reached out to our elected officials. Um I had our councilman reach
out to me again and I told him what we're doing. He said he'll help whatever
we can. I think just making our story known that we need more attention from
um from First Energy here to address some of these problems. I know it's not
a short-term problem, but I'm just going to stay on it. I just think it's it's
not acceptable level of service that we're getting. Um and you know,
hopefully with the collective voice and some of the other communities around
here that are doing similar things, we'll get some action.
» [clears throat] >> I mean, my next my next step may be to
go to Pukco about it, too. I don't know. I haven't done that yet. That's the one
thing I haven't done. But anyway, I just wanted you to keep you guys know this is
something that's on my agenda. >> I just want to add to that. I um we
talked to the council um that um I'm I share the survey with
Pepper Pike so far so that they can copy it. they can also send it out to their
residents and we talked maybe about collectively getting those te that
testimonial data data in case we want to go to
» so now that that we would have it and if we get Pepper Pike or Bentleyville I
think was interested >> mayor has reached out to me as well.
» Okay. So I can share the survey with them as well.
» Great. >> And so I think if we were to get
multiple communities together and then compile that testimony data I think we'd
have a good case. So >> thank you for that. Thank you for your
efforts on it. I appreciate >> maybe I really appreciate that.
» Okay, that's all I've got, but thank you. Um, I will move on to our our uh
department heads. So, let me start with the police report. I think the chief is
on there, but we have the lieutenant in the in the chambers here. So, you guys
take it away. >> He just messaged me. I think he might
have just got bounced out of here. >> Okay. Um well, Lieutenant,
» the only thing we really wanted to address today is because we brought it
up, uh roads and safety at the last meeting, um the flock. So, right now,
we're shooting for to get a flock representative if we if we still want to
entertain that and open it for anybody uh via Zoom. Uh it would be September
2nd at 7 p.m. is what we're shooting for. We kind of bounce back and forth
[clears throat] between some emails.
Okay. >> So, right now that's that's just what we
recommend. Try to get done this way. We can address it all together. We can't we
can hear it straight from Fox's mouth on whatever questions or whoever wants to
bring whatever up. This way it's we're not playing telephone or just come it
can come straight from them. >> I appreciate that. Thank you
» Juliet for that. >> Okay. Thank you. Mr. Dwire, do you have
a report this evening? >> Uh only thing to report on is for
continuing on drive forward replacements. Um, you guys are moving
right along with that. And with that, we did have a road culver failure on river
road that discussing with Jeff and I think our crews are going to replace
that in house. >> Okay. Okay. Where what section of river?
I didn't see. >> So, it's north of Shagrin Boulevard,
maybe about 75 ft. There's actually a steel plate on the road covering it
right now. And it is properly safe down >> uh patch rounded and pinned. Okay.
» And there is signed. All right. >> All right. Thank you, Mr. Appreciate
that. Uh, let's see. I will move on to the engineers report. Mr. Polarski,
you're on mute. He's on mute, right?
» Mr. Farsy, are you there? Okay, I will circle back with you, Mr.
Farski, and we'll move on and come back. And if you're having any uh technical
difficulties there, Mr. Mr. Shaw, have a uh finance report this evening.
» Uh yes, here may. Um I have one quick report and I'm trying my for some reason
my video won't work. Um so [snorts]
our income tax, as I mentioned last month, um is still on the downward trend
right now. Um, as of this month, um, August 1st, we were down
by approximately 12%. It's just a reminder, you know, for a
city or a village like Morland Hills, um, we rely on individual income taxes
and, uh, market conditions or what have you, uh, can certainly impact us, um,
very rapidly. So in in dollars we are down about $527,000
um year to date. Um again our budget was conservatively estimated um at even less
than that. So we are fine as far as the budget is concerned. Um but as far as
actual cash and revenue collections we are down. So just a heads up.
» Other than that don't have a report mayor.
» Okay. Thank you. Just are you you've been doing this a long time, Pashant. Do
you think this is a timing? Do you have concerns it could be continuing
or uh and are there things you think we should be looking at now or watch
closely and see later? >> Well, you know, a couple of concerns
there. Nothing I I guess I I'm going to say income tax up and down. You know,
we've seen this over the years. Um and being on the Rita board, I've seen um
statewide collections are also down a little bit. So um not alarmed yet. Um
but I am concerned about you know all these other talk about property taxes
and all those things and if all this comes together with u reduction in
income tax revenue which is our main source of revenue and um property tax is
also u being discussed um you know we'll have to look at it
keep an eye on it and I'm sure you may um are familiar with all the things
going on statewide because uh as part of your mayors and managers association
they do have discussions on Uh, but I'm I'm certainly keeping my eye
on it and keep you informed as we go along.
» Okay. I appreciate that, Mr. Shot. Thank you.
» You're welcome. >> Uh, the building department report uh
all on vacation is my understanding. So, I don't think we will have that report
this evening. So, uh, Mr. Hanner, do we have a law report this evening?
» Um, no, we don't. >> We do not. Okay, then I will circle back
one more time with Jeff to see if I can get him.
Uh, I did text him, but he didn't respond to that. So, maybe he is having
some troubles. Jeff going once.
Going twice. Okay, Jeff, I'm gonna move. Oh, wait a
minute. There he is. >> Yeah, sorry about that. I uh mistakenly
left my laptop and using my phone and my fingers are fat. So, uh [laughter]
I have uh nothing to report. Mayor and Council.
» Oh, okay. >> After all that,
then we will move on to appointments and confirmations. We have none. Uh, no
petitions, communications, petitions, and claims
this evening. So, I'll move to reports of committees. The first is a report of
the BCAM planning on August 3rd. Uh, Mr. Richmond, do you have a report?
» Uh, thank you, Mayor. Uh so uh BZA met August 3rd. We just had one item and
that was a square footage variance for a detached garage and covered patio at 30
Addison Lane and that was uh approved. Um we also uh besides the player house
camp matter which uh will come up later in the agenda we had other items. One
was the um design for that uh the tax garage at 30 Addison. Uh we also had two
um designs for new dwellings. one at 45 Stern Crest and one at 110 Meadow Meadow
Hill Lane, sorry. Um all three uh were approved. Um all three were were subject
to um site plan revisions, engineering uh review and approval and
particularly to um new drawings were also subject to a um septic uh permit.
uh from the county health district >> conclude planning and BCA.
» Thank you, Mr. Richmond. Appreciate it. Um next is the facilities from the
meeting report for the meeting on August 4th. Uh Mr. Vincent.
» Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um minutes stand in the in the packet there in the
dropbox. Um the highlights uh are that uh the foot bridge replacement has
started. In fact, it's going so well that they did another one. So, um, they
got some donated clay. I guess it was donated, correct, Ted?
» Yeah, donated >> from Morland Commons to, uh, kind of
help assemble the the kind of earth bridge and, uh, and it's been a good
project for the service department. So, that's moving along well. I don't know.
Do you have any other reports? Is it actually done this week or is it pretty
close to being done or >> I know they're uh, we're putting the
clay on the second dump for the second bridge today. They were working up
there. Rain did slow us down a little. >> That's all I wanted to let folks know.
Otherwise, >> thanks Mr. Richmond.
Mr. Mr. Vincent, my apologies.
» Roads and safety also met on August 4th. Mrs. Irish, you have a report.
» Um, thank you for mentioning the block system camera system. Um, I was going to
mention what you said, so thank you for sharing. Takes that off my list. Um, we
did have um an extensive discussion with a resident um of Miles Road in the Scrap
Ball Morland Hills area. Um, she had emailed me expressing concern about the
the speed in that area on Miles Road. So, she attended the meeting um shared
her concerns, talked about how she had um reached out to Shrint Hall's roads
and safety committee um as well and how it may um they felt it may have to be a
combined effort to take a look at that road if we were going to do anything
about it with with the village. Um, but what she's saying is the stretch there
between Solen, where Solen Road starts and intersects with Miles heading
westbound, um, is currently 35 miles per hour, um, she feels it's it's too high
of a speed limit for that area being very, uh, dense in residential um,
homes. So, she was coming to ask Beth if we would take a look at it in the area.
Um, by the end of the conversation, uh, Chief Diesel stated he'd be happy to
install a speed box in the area going westbound, also eastbound to to do a
seven-day study to take a look at the speeds. Um, that's currently in process
um because it takes some time to get all that, make sure that we're not putting a
poll where their utilities are lying. So, um, that's sort of our next steps to
evaluate that. Jeff uh Floreski shared that there is a who you know this
process that you have to go [laughter] through to change a speed limit of any
road. Um there are several factors involved with that. So um at this point
we're just we're gathering information. So I wanted to give you all an update on
that. Um, I see that we have this later on the
agenda, but just briefly, Chief Diesel reported that there is a recommendation
from planning to allow eight buses to access the Hyram Trail three times per
day. And then uh finally, Mr. Farski shared that um there's a
challenge of developing a storm water drainage system around East and West
Juniper. um and he discussed several different
options of how to address that. Um we're still in discussions on or he's still in
discussions on trying to figure out the best option is. So that's where we are.
» That's it. >> Thank you very much.
» If I may really quick, the speed box on Miles Road eastbound is already up. So
it's pulling data to see if we actually do have a speed problem there. The
officers have been sitting there pretty much every shift right now day and
night. Uh we're doing like two 30 minute uh stretches there. So we're not just
camping there and then nobody's moving at all. So uh we haven't had any
violations whatsoever yet. The speed box is pulling data. So when users not there
speed box is doing its thing. We did mark one of the polls. Oops. Is did oops
already come out? >> Oops. So we put poll up tomorrow.
» So the poll will be up tomorrow for the westbound traffic. Then we'll be
monitoring one week eastbound and westbound traffic with our speed boxes
and it'll give us data on flow rates, how many vehicles are coming and going
and then speeds. >> Thank you very much, Tom. Appreciate
that. >> Okay. Uh parks commission met on July
20th. Uh Mr. Yon, do you have a report? Uh yeah, I was not in attendance, but I
did speak with the um with the treatment works chair about it. Uh really only uh
I'll let the minutes stand. Only other you know follow up with uh the mayor
already stated this Friday and the Hills if you could come up and
support it be great. >> Thank you council president. Appreciate
that. Uh next is the DEIB commission that met on July 21st. Uh, Miss Davis or
Mr. Richmond, do any of either of you have a report?
» I have a a brief one. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, minutes um not yet available due to
some uh of personal reasons of uh the officers, particularly the minute
writing officer. Um, so quick highlights. Uh first of all, regarding
ongoing projects, um not too late to get your recipes in
for the cookbook, a lot have been in um and they're in the process of figuring
out how best to display them on their uh on the DDI web page. Uh this Saturday,
August 15th, from 10 to 2, uh the commission will have a table at the
Orange Arts Center. I believe they'll be um
sponsoring a uh drawing of faces of our community uh uh craft at the DEIV table.
Uh it should be a great event. Um [clears throat] the um joint book club
with uh green commission um regarding the book grading sweetg grass has been
set for October 22nd at 6:30 uh p.m. Uh the we are Morland Hills event. Uh
everybody is working very hard to make this bigger and better than it has been
before. Um, so far the food truck Frosty Gator will be there. Uh, Blue Cadillac
will be there uh for the first uh hour and a half or so and then there'll be uh
line dancing for the second hour and a half which should be fun. Uh there'll be
again resource tables and a cornole tournament and um potential uh stuff uh
for kids. Um there's a food bank volunteer opportunity November 12th from
6:00 to 8. Uh the web page as well as um we are more than host there will be
forums if anybody wants to uh join those uh join those volunteering and um that's
the uh that's the base of kindness. >> Thanks again Mr. Richmond. Appreciate
it. Uh let's see. Last is the green commission from two meetings July 8th
and August 5th. Uh Mrs. Irish class, would you like to make comments or
» um we had a free cycle of that this past Sunday. It was several people attended
and took away many bags of items including myself. Um so that was that
was good. Um we had um two meetings ago, the rust belt writers presentation was
very informative. Um, I learned a lot um about food waste and how much it's
contributing to the to the methane and the in the atmosphere and um they will
be bringing they're they're still taking a look at pricing and bringing some
options to the village as far as what that might look like.
» All right. Thank you. That that concludes reports of committees. So move
on to uh approval of bonds, contracts, plats. Uh in this section, we do have
something we've put there, which is the Hyram House camp uh conditional use
modification uh to allow egress onto Hyum Trail for
up to eight regular buses and one special education bus during specified
time periods. Uh Mr. Richmond, are you going to present this this evening?
» I I will. Thank you very much. Uh so it it's um you know a high room house camp
uh requested informally in some preliminary hearings
uh and formally at the uh public hearing at uh the the last planning commission
meeting uh requesting modification of their conditional use. actually kind of
modification of the previous modification of of their traditional
use. Uh specifically modifying you may recall there were seven conditions in
2023. The specific modification would be condition number one uh that currently
only allows ingress of buses to the access road. And the uh request
modification was uh egress for at three periods of time.
um once in the morning for eight of stu regular students and one bus for
special education students um uh for egress on high trail in in the uh in in
the morning specifically at at present time between the hours of 7:30 8 7:55
and twice uh in the afternoon uh one approximately typically uh 245
uh for um Brady students and one approximately 345 for uh Morland Hill
students and the uh Y is the school uh and Hyram [clears throat] presented that
um that we'll be able to um and the
transportation director um worked all this out that they're expecting delay
time to be reduced by 15 Um, and those 8 hour those eight buses
represent about 23 cars that would be removed from the queue at um uh at at
Gail Allison. Um I I stated at the planning commission that I I thought our
job was kind of really summarized kind of by the one line in our conditional
use um ordinance and that is that uh the conditional use regulations are quote
intended to ensure that conditional uses are reviewed in a reasonable equitable
manner while safeguarding property rights of all individuals and the
health, safety and welfare of the entire community. In other words, a balancing
of property rights, if you will, of of Hyram House uh with the um need to
overall um look at the interest of Morland Hills um as a whole. And um in
order that for the planning commission to uh to balance those uh we first have
really two or two things. Uh first our our police department um and our
engineering uh department uh reviewed the situation. Police department
actually went out uh and staged um and and examined the uh traffic at those
times and also talked with the um transportation director at Orange. And
um neither uh bottom line neither uh the the chief nor our engineer felt that um
there would be any material traffic delays at high trail uh due to the the
staggered nature of of this um uh bus traffic of this egress and bus traffic.
Now on the flip side, I thought that it would be helpful in reducing
uh the queue on Gail Allison Drive, helpful in reducing traffic um backing
up at Sugarin and S and [clears throat] helpful in reducing the possibility that
emergency vehicles might get stuck in that queue without being able to get
through. Um and so we had a public hearing. Um also there there were um
just uh basic besides the school board um individuals who were um who were also
residents uh there was one um individual who um who expressed support. There were
two individuals that indicated not not so much opposition but that um they
didn't want they didn't think more than hills um
should and and higher trail should be responsible for what they they they
thought was a school issue. Um and the planning commission uh we basically uh
and and and I as a council member basically think uh you know this is not
just a school issue. Um higher house and school are also institutional residents.
Many Mor Hills residents have um have uh children that go to orange schools. But
most importantly, um
the uh the requested modification is is not expected to
hurt and affect Hyram Trail residents based on our engineer and our uh police
departments. Its intent is to help and expected to
help by again freeing up the queue by um by lessing traffic at some degree and
reducing possibility of of hyum. Um and the the other kind of solace uh the
other item to to recall is this is really in effect a a two-year
modification because recall in two years That will be the fiveyear mark uh where
the um hyram house has to come back to us with a new traffic study showing all
the alternatives that uh alternative uh to to using a hyum um to um and and how
those may or may not require still the need for a hyum and they need uh uh to
do that two years from Now, so long story short, um we recommended that
council approve um the requested modification
to the conditional use, specifically the request to modify condition one to also
allow egress on the Hyram Trail of up to eight regular buses and one special
education bus in the morning during the 7 to 9:00 a.m. time frame and twice in
the afternoon during the 2 to 4:00 time frame. Provided that all other existing
conditions 2 through 7 from 2023 um
be uh remain in full force in effect. Uh so that's um that's the base. happy to
answer any questions and then I could um I got to repeat that in motion form uh
in order to uh to make a motion to approve
» commission recommendation >> for the record you had mentioned that
Hyram House has to come back in two years to with a new plan and I think you
mean orange schools >> well I actually mean hire house because
they're the applicant >> they're [clears throat]
I mean schools will will come with them and the schools put together the traffic
study but high house is the actual >> they own they own they own
» they own the land own >> so they are very
» if they didn't if they didn't want to do it the school couldn't come and sit on
» okay >> correct
» thank you Mr. Richmond. Any uh questions or clarifications from anybody? I I'd
just like to make a comment that I was at the meeting. I'm happy to uh serve on
the same planning commission. And um I support this modification. I'm not a
vote tonight, but I just want to let council know I support the modification.
I think it's the right thing to do to support our schools. And I do think we
need to uh make it clear to the schools though that they need to make more
progress on evaluating options by the time they come back in two years because
that was the expectation three years ago and uh I stated that at the meeting but
I just want to let you guys know. >> Appreciate that. Um if there's no other
questions, I'm I'm definitely assuming um that um this is the the proper um
method to approve a conditional use by motion that
» consistent with the council's past practice.
» All right, great. So, I I'm I'm make a motion that um we approve the requested
um modification to the existing conditional use. specifically that we
approve the request to modify condition one of the seven conditions uh currently
in force uh to allow [clears throat] egress onto Hyru Trail of up to eight
regular buses and one special education bus in the morning during the 7 a.m. to
9:00 a.m. time frame and twice in the afternoon during the 2:00 p.m. to 4:00
p.m. time frame provided that all the other conditions two through seven
of the current conditional use remain in full force and effect.
» Second. >> Okay, we have a motion Mr. Richmond
seconded by I couldn't hear. I think it was Mr. Melly.
» Yes, sir. >> Out of time.
» Mr. [laughter] >> Both sides of Steve
Sher, would you call the rules? >> Sados.
» Yes. >> Mr. Squ. Yes,
» Mr. Yankee. >> Yes,
» Mr. Melly. >> Yes,
» Mr. Richmond. >> Yes,
» Mr. Vza. >> Yes.
» Okay. Thank you, Mr. Richmond. I will move on. I think I'm moving right on to
ordinances. So, the first ordinance this evening is 2026-34,
an ordinance authorizing the mayor to execute a contract with Mr. Excavator,
Inc. for the village complex retaining wall project and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Vincent, will you be presented? I will. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so yeah,
so there were five bids received for the uh comp village complex retaining wall,
which includes all the wall behind the police station all the way down to the
sally port. Um, so it's pretty big uh pretty big area. Um, there were good
bids. There were five of them, like I said, and they were pretty tight uh to
each other, ranging from 162,500 to 183,288
with the lowest uh bid being Mr. Excavator Inc. at 162500.
Um and uh uh Mr. Blowski informed us that the um at the facilities meeting
that the Mr. Estavator is actually responsible for the site work on on the
village campus here. So they are familiar with our site. Um which I was
happy to hear because they're going to be taking down a retaining wall and just
leaving it, you know, exposed for a while. So so they have familiarity. Um
so with that, I would uh recommend that we pass this make a motion to suspend.
» Second. Okay. Minion to suspend the rule seconded by council president Sherry.
» Miss David, >> yes.
» Mrs. Irish class. >> Yes.
» Mr. Yaki. >> Yes.
» Mr. Melly. >> Yes.
» Mr. Richmond. >> Yes.
» Mr. Vincent. >> Uh, yes. Any questions?
None. Okay. I'll make a motion passage, please. Second. Okay. We motion passes.
Second by Mr. Nelly. Would you please call the role?
» Miss Deas? >> Yes.
» Mrs. Irish Glass? >> Yes.
» Mr. Yaki? >> Yes.
» Mr. Melly. >> Yes.
» Mr. Richmond. >> Yes.
» Mr. Vinc. >> Yes.
» Okay. Thank you, Mr. Vincent. I'll move on to 2026-35,
an ordinance amending section 157.03, members terms of chapter 157 parks
commission of the codified ordinances to delete the language permitting a
community member to serve an an additional term and to modify the
term length. Um, it should say prohibiting a community member to serve
an additional Oh, no. No, excuse me. I'm sorry. That is correct. Permitting a
community member to serve an additional term and to modify the term length for
two appointments made at year end 2026 and declaring an emergency. And council
president, >> thank you. Thank you. Um so this was
made uh because we are coming up on uh eight years of the uh of the creation of
the uh parks commission. Um and we've realized that we would have a quite a
few uh members essentially turn limited. Uh this is the only commission that had
was set up as such. Uh and we found it best practice to align it with the other
commissions. um that people would like to continue to serve uh then they should
be afforded that uh afforded that uh availability. So basically the language
um also uh since it it changes two of the appointments though and we have uh
there's some staggering in there versus all four terms because when someone
comes on uh you know if someone uh steps away the new member assumes the balance
of that term so it doesn't start four years it'd be time to join. So that way
we've got a little uh overlap so we're not okay everybody we know all new
people come in and you kind of lose that continuity of of what we've been doing.
So that was what uh what uh this ordinance addresses um with that I'd
like to suspend the rules. Second suspend the rules second by Mr. Vincent
Sherry. >> Yes. M David.
» Yes. >> Mrs. Irishb
» Mr. Yankee. >> Yes.
» Mr. Millie. >> Yes.
» Mr. Richmond. >> Yes.
» Mr. Veteran. >> Yes.
» Any questions?
Like to make a move for passage.
Second by Miss.
» Yes. >> Yes.
» Okay. Thank you, council president. Next up is 2026-36,
an ordinance creating the police capital and equipment replacement fund within
the financial records of the village of Mormon Hills and declaring an emergency.
Miss Davis. >> Yeah. So, um I think we talked last time
or the time before about um needing u to separate the funds or Mr. Shaw had
talked about this um uh from the auditors that they have to segregate the
reserves um the police and service. So they're um establishing this is to
establish two distinct funds. Um and uh let's see if there's anything else I
said about it. Um yeah, this is to set aside reserves for future capital
equipment needs in the police department and um the equipment replacement fund u
which is the same fund that they were using for the reserves for the service
department. So this is essentially just separating them into two distinct funds
to comply with the auditor. Um and Mr. shot and letting if you have anything
else you'd like to add to that. I probably covered that.
» No, I think you did just fine. Thank you. You covered it well.
» All right. Um, I'd like to make a motion to suspend the rules.
» Second. [clears throat] >> Okay. We have a motion to suspend the
rules. Second by Mr. Vincent. Would you call?
» Mos. >> Yes.
» Mrs. Irish. >> Yes.
» Mr. Yaki. >> Yes.
» Mr. Milly. >> Yes.
» Mr. Richmond. >> Yes.
» Mr. Vincent. >> Yes.
» Okay. Any questions?
» Okay. Passage.
» Second. >> Hey, we have M passage. Seconded by Mr.
Richmond. Sherry. >> Mel.
» Yes. >> Mr. Clutz.
» Yes. >> Mr. Yankee.
» Yes. >> Mr. Mlly.
» Yes. >> Mr. Richmond.
» Yes. >> Mr. Vincent.
» Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. I'll move on to
2026-37, an ordinance creating the service
capital and equipment replacement fund within the financial records uh of the
village of Mormon Hills and declaring an emergency and that will be presented by
Miss Class. [laughter]
» Thought I was reading the same one already.
for the artifact author's recommendation to segate segregate the two reserve
funds placed similar to um organs in establishing accumulation of reserves
for future capital and support. So um I'd like to make a motion to
suspend rules second. >> Okay, we have a motion to suspend the
rules seconded by Miss Davos. Would you roll?
» Mos. >> Yes. Mrs. Irish class.
» Yes. >> Mr. Yankee.
» Yes. >> Mr. Melly,
» yes. >> Mr. Richmond,
» yes. >> Mr. Vincent,
» yes. >> Any questions, comments?
» Motion. I'd like to make a motion for passion
for pass. Second by Mr. Vincent. >> Okay.
» Miss David, >> yes.
» Mrs. Mr. Yankee,
» yes. >> Mr. Melly,
» yes. >> Mr. Richmond,
» yes. >> Mr. Vincent,
» yes. >> Okay. And our last ordinance this
evening is 2026-38. An ordinance providing additional
appropriations, transferring items already appropriated and declaring an
emergency will be presented by Mr. Mali. Sir,
» yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh so this is part of our monthly housekeeping. Uh it
is providing certain expenditures for village hills for the uh fiscal year. Uh
there is an exhibit A attachment uh that is public record uh discuss the precise
amounts uh for engineering study for health insurance for some miscellaneous
cabinet expenses and for some refunds. Uh these are detailed out in in that uh
in the exhibit A attachment. Um again this just normal housekeeping that we do
to transfer funds.
Uh with that, I'll make a motion to spell the rules.
» Second. >> We have a second
by Mr. Vinc. >> Yes.
» Mrs. Irish. >> Yes. Mr. Yaki.
» Yes. >> Mr. Mi.
» Yes. >> Mr. Richmond.
» Yes. >> Mr.
» Yes. Are there any questions? Was the engineer studying?
» Uh that related something we already did. Well, that I would need to ask a
shot. Not the engineering study, uh, the $10,000 allocated for the engineering
study. >> Right. So, for the year we had budgeted
about $40,000. Um, and I think we've had some additional projects come along the
way. Um, and right now we are about 5,000 short in that fund. What I'm doing
is adding another five additional 5,000 which hopefully will take us through the
rest of the year. So, the total budget for the year will be about 50,000.
Oh, I see. It's really more so engineering studies plural rather than
study, right? >> I'm sorry. I should have clarified. So,
those are all expenses for engineers bills for any projects that he's worked
on so far this year. >> Got it. Thank you.
» Appropriation, right? Again, it's not a specific.
» Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Oh, make a motion for us. >> Okay. We have motion. Motion for passes.
Seconded by Miss David. Would you please >> Miss David?
» Yes. >> Mrs. M.
» Yes. >> Mr.
» Yes. >> Mr. Richmond.
» Yes. >> Mr. Vincent.
» Yes. >> Okay. Thank you, council. That concludes
ordinances this evening. I'll move on to miscellaneous business by members of
council. Does anyone have miscellaneous business this evening?
I guess I have a question. Going back to the opening uh update on the AT&T or the
fiber, um if we were to go back for RFP, um would you envision that it would be
the same sort of process for getting back to help us and all that?
» I do not envision that. I think we could do it on our own with Mr. Hannah,
honestly, because I think we have most of what we got there. And I think some
of the the legal stuff that we failed to put in the first one,
» um, Mr. Hannah would assure that we have got it.
» Um, I will tell you, I've also had, uh, Omni Fiber reach out to me. I've had,
um, Spectrum reach out to me. Again, [clears throat]
I'm not sure that that one is viable, but there's a new group within Spectrum,
Hope Springs Eternal, and they um and they're now trying to market larger
projects. >> I have no idea what that really means.
It was just a one conversation, but they're going to come back to me as
well. >> Um and my if we go this route again, we
haven't Yeah, >> sure. They've done it. I I would imagine
that Sugar Valley Geek may still have interest, although they they're pretty
bogged down with a lot of work that they have right now is my understanding. But
it'd be interesting to see if they did ramp up as they intended to in terms of
the >> capacity they have for you know
one nice thing about the fact >> we haveations that we will not have the
same similar issues or we don't know as of yet
with with that that we're having with AT&T.
» Uh I don't know that I can answer that. I don't think I really know.
» That would be just sort of be guessing at the moment.
» Yeah, that's just wondering whether we had a sense of
» but I think that if I think that if the conversation is framed Sorry
if the conversation is framed differently um you know and maybe
keeping in mind the experience that we've had, we can avoid some of that.
And if the step of reformulating an RFP were taken and reissuing that, of
course, we would be really clear about, you know, avoiding some of those
pitfalls. >> Sure.
» Okay. >> I guess a bit since we go from the scam.
Uh, do we know how much of the village now has been covered by AT&T? I think it
was close to 20% back in January, March or so. And they
» I do not know that answer. I certainly that would rebase any expectations we
would have for fewer households for any RP we put out.
» I would assume >> um
I would suspect that too. Well, unless we wanted to give them choices beyond.
» Sure. >> Yes.
» I guess the other the other question is given the shortfall that was reported
today that we're already half a million short of expected.
» Would there be a consideration of wanting to keep our powder dry, you
know, to the $200 million? >> Very good point. I think before we were
um proate, we would have that discussion.
No doubt. Anybody
else have any slips? >> Yeah, I just had um I just had actually
a couple quick things. Um one was um the survey. I was just going to leave open
for the month unless anyone had any ideas to close it. I just assume that
we'll have more power outages and more people be like, "Yeah, let's fill this I
think August is a good monthly
especially if we're going to have other you know um aing communities giving the
survey as well. I feel like a while but I just wanted to check with everyone.
And then um the second thing um was uh about the um some of you had sent um
stuff about the internship. Um and so I I was just going to recommend thinking
about spec I didn't put specific dates in anything and I didn't put specific
number of reference letters or any of that. So maybe thinking about all those
things before the next council's whole meeting then we can work that out. And
the last thing was I got an email about the Ohio disability conference. I don't
know anything about it. Do you all do we go to that? Do we participate in that or
do we get anything out of that? Like what is that about someone?
» We we do get materials from the Ohio Municipal League, but I don't believe
we're members. >> Okay. I just get these emails.
» Oh, we are. >> Oh, okay.
» Oh, we know was a different one. I'm think there's multiple organizations
like this and some we've chosen not to participate. Maybe OML. We do.
» We do. >> We do get a newsletter from them. Like
I'll read from time to time. It'll be a legislative update from them saying this
is what's going on Columbus. This is the impact of local communities. And I like
to be able to read those things. >> Okay.
» But I've never been to a conference that >> the reason I bring it up is they had
» Oh, so I was just going to say I they the village sent when I first goed
to OML sponsored new newly elected officials. Very helpful.
» Yeah, we did that one I think. But um this other one that they were having, I
I just saw that they were talking about three different things that might be
useful for us. Like one was um Ohio property taxes. I know we're kind of
dealing with that. Um and then the energy landscape was one of them. So So
I don't know if that's something we think about doing. I guess next month or
something. >> Their annual annual conference.
» Yeah. September 30th, October 2nd. So I don't know that
» Thomas >> I
saw the email before I came in here today.
Um, >> we could take a look at it and I mean I'
I'd be supportive of if someone wants to attend or um depending on when it is I
could possibly attend. I don't know. I haven't seen whether I could make it.
But >> you can get those by the way by email if
you would have to get them every Friday.
» Okay. >> Because I went to that one conference
and they come on the list. [laughter] >> Well, maybe that's why.
» Yeah. >> But it looks it looks like it might be
useful. some of the topics might be useful uh to us specifically with all
things that we're dealing with right now. Um so that was just a thought I
had. That's it. >> Thank you. I appreciate that.
» Anybody else have anything? >> Just wanted to confirm that everyone
received my email around the salaries and the
» um by council the whole I hope that I have um firmed up that information. Like
I said, it was just internet based research, but I want to call each each
city. And if you think of any other cities I should reach out to, let me
know. >> Is are the OERS benefits the um are they
linear? Like we get half a credit at 6,000. Uh so does it scale? Do you do
you know based on the based on the salary whenever the salary just times
the same? I know that from my district job to this, you know, it's like same.
Uh I had one other thing and Steve thank you for sending out the um your email
with us today. >> Um we we did start a discussion uh at
the committee of the whole. I think some of us were under under the understanding
we were you know going to kind of start from scratch. Uh and um after further
discussion uh realized that we have a good foundation
um of those is it four there four or five there's you know five categories
um we all agreed that what we would do was look at them um you know see if
there's any modifications that might need to be made and maybe identify uh
some short-term actions we could take to advance toward the goals uh or even
something you know longer term uh not not necessarily a a concrete goal but
something we're always you know working toward. So just just yes would like to
uh you know remind people to take a look at that hopefully come prepared at the
next briefing. >> Great. Thank you president.
» Yeah. Yeah. Just to real quick follow up that those those initial goals
uh have goal stated goal and then objectives with most of which are more
general rather than specific action items.
So maybe we also look to see whether there's any specific action items that
we think maybe we're not doing that we want to do versus that six new goal that
I was proposing that I also added at the end of that email that doesn't has that
has the goal doesn't have the objectives but does have a list of potential action
items just just FYI. So when you look at it, you know,
um what's there?
» Okay. Thank you. >> Anything else?
» Oh, one of the the first things I brought up
uh when I when I joined uh council was that, you know, some of the information
on our website was a little dated. Like for instance, the road map was 2022. Uh
I've been looking around. It looks great. A lot of the stuff has been
updated. It's current. Um if that's Sherry that's the individual departments
uh it's it's fantastic to have you know [laughter]
it's Sherry to be able to go to our site and get
information so I just wanted to make sure to address
that was something I said earlier this year so circling back around uh it's
it's nice to to have that uh usefulness >> thank you and thank Mr. That's great.
Appreciate that very much. >> All right. Do I have a motion to
adjourn? [clears throat] >> So moved. Second.
» Okay. We have a motion to pass the presence by Mr. Richmond.
» Miss David. >> Yes. Mrs. Irish.
» Yes. Mr. >> Yes.
» Mr. Mik. >> Yes.
» Mr. Richmond. >> Yes.
» Mr. Bington. >> Yes.
» Non non meeting item. Mana bread.
» Oh no. That's what that is. >> All right.
Yeah, feel free to take down there too. Nice. Thank you.
» I've had it before.