[0:00] this room. We have more space upstairs for additional people [0:06] and everyone will have the opportunity to be [0:10] called down here if they wish to make a comment before this committee. [0:16] So, we have space upstairs for more folks. [0:23] The occupancy limit is set by the fire marshall and we will comply with that [0:27] occupancy limit. So, there's seating upstairs [0:31] and you can submit a card and we'll we'll call your name when you're ready. [9:30] Okay. Thank you everyone. I would like to call the village board meeting for [9:35] Tuesday, August 25th, 2026 to order, please. Uh, deputy clerk, [9:42] please call the role. or [9:45] » here. Whitaker [9:47] » here. >> Fowler, [9:48] » here. Chelsea Gallen >> here. [9:50] » Chessy Edis >> here. [9:51] » Chessy Elfman >> here. [9:53] » President Mendrich >> here. [9:55] » Uh the first item on the agenda um is an employee recognition. Um Chief Hutenski, [10:02] I understand you have something you'd like to share with us tonight. [10:05] » Yes. [10:10] » And while our two chiefs approach a podium and let me just explain a little [10:13] bit of what we have here. This is an unusual capacity for this room. Uh we've [10:17] taken a look at things to try to make things as safe as possible for everyone [10:21] in here. So just so you're aware of it, there's an exit door here off to the [10:24] side. There's an exit door over here that takes you directly outside. For [10:28] those of you who are watching upstairs, there's an elevator and a staircase to [10:32] get you the exit doors. We are keeping an eye on things to make sure we don't [10:36] get in a situation where it's an unsafe situation for everybody, but right now [10:40] everything's looking it's okay. And I really appreciate everybody being here [10:43] to recognize our public safety officers. Chief, go ahead. [10:50] » Thank you. >> Thank you, President Menret. Uh, Chief [10:53] Mix and I are honored to be here tonight to recognize the incredible efforts of [10:57] our co-workers. On the evening of July 3rd, Northfield officers were dispatched [11:01] to a report of a subject attempting to take their own life. Based on the nature [11:05] of the call, the police watch commander requested that the fire rescue [11:08] department also respond to the scene and staged nearby until officers were able [11:12] to ensure that the scene was safe. Officer Michael McGary was the first [11:16] officer to arrive and he was able to quickly get access to the building via [11:20] an unlocked door. Once inside the building, Officer McGary located the [11:24] victim and took immediate action to intervene and stop the attempt. At this [11:28] time, the victim was not breathing and had no pulse. [11:34] Fire rescue personnel from Engine and Nameless 29 which included myself, fire [11:40] medic Luke Lapki, fire medic Jeff Leelssa, fire EMT Frank Cambria, [11:48] paramedic firefighter Kyle Tuttle, and fire medic David Steel entered the [11:52] scene. Once we received that the scene was safe from the police department, we [11:57] began immediate advanced life support and critical care measures. After [12:02] several minutes, the victim's pulse and had been restored. [12:07] He was quickly packaged and we began our transport to the hospital. While on [12:12] route to the hospital, he became pulseless again and the fire rescue [12:16] personnel were able to continue life-saving measures and restore a pulse [12:20] for the second time. The emergency room met us on the uh [12:25] approach ramp with their staff and they were advised that we had a critical [12:30] patient and they were prepared and waiting as we pulled in. Through [12:35] immediate advanced lifesaving care given by the first responders and progressive [12:40] hospital intervention, the patient was reported to have been treated and [12:44] released after their hospital stay. The patient is now continuing their recovery [12:48] journey. This incident is a prime example of the way coordination between [12:54] first responders and specialized medical care can be critical for life-saving [12:58] outcomes. The rapid actions, seamless communications, and exceptional care [13:02] provided at every stage were instrumental in saving the victim's [13:05] life. [13:41] chiefs. Thank you very much. [13:46] Uh the next order of business um I am going to pass on the village president's [13:51] report at this point. I have some comments to make later in the evening. [13:54] Um the next order of business is public comment and I will tell you that this is [13:59] the not the public comment related to TIFF. That will happen when we open the [14:05] public hearing. And I would encourage you if you intend to speak on that topic [14:11] that you fill out one of these forms that Melissa has here at the end of the [14:16] table and I think Brett has upstairs so that we can get you in the queue. I will [14:21] call these names when we get to this segment uh three at a time so [14:25] everybody's here in the room ready to speak so we can move things along. Uh [14:29] and anyone who's coming from upstairs if you hear your name called you can make [14:33] your way downstairs. Um, so if anyone has anything they'd like to comment on [14:39] outside of TIFF, you're welcome to um approach the podium at this time. [14:46] Otherwise, I'll move on. >> Okay, great. Uh, the next item of [14:53] business is the approval of bills and dispersements from July of 2026. [14:58] May I have a motion to approve the bills and dispersements from July 1st, 2026 [15:04] through July 31st, 2026? >> So moved. [15:08] » Second. >> Okay. Patrick, are there any items you [15:12] wish to point out? >> Thank you. Not this month. [15:14] » Okay. Any comments or questions from the board [15:18] or comments or questions from the public? [15:22] Okay. Deputy Chief, please call the role. [15:25] » Trusty Ort. >> Yes. [15:26] » Trusty Whitaker. Yes. >> Trusty Fowler. [15:28] » Yes. >> Trusty Gallen. [15:30] » Yes. >> Trusty Edis. [15:31] » Yes. >> Alman. [15:33] » Yes. >> Motion carries. [15:35] » Okay. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is the omnibus vote for the [15:39] consent agenda items. Um this is the section of our agenda where [15:45] one vote can be called to approve a number of items. Are there any items [15:49] that any board member would like to have removed from the consent agenda for [15:53] discussion? Okay. Hearing none. Uh, will the deputy [15:58] clerk please read the consent agenda items into the record? [16:03] There are four items. The first is the approval of the minutes from July 21st, [16:06] 2026. The second is the ratification of the purchase of fire turnout gear from [16:11] Conway Shield in the amount of $26,114. [16:16] The third is the authorization to execute an agreement with Gualt Hamilton [16:20] for construction management services for the 2026 asphalt program. And the fourth [16:26] is the adoption of an ordinance waving the formal bidding process authorizing [16:31] disposal and authorizing a contract with Silverstar Technology of Rolling [16:35] Meadows, Illinois for a security camera system in the amount of $17,852. [16:43] May I have a motion and a second? >> Motion to approve the consent agenda. [16:46] » Second. >> Any comments or questions from the [16:49] board? >> Deputy Clerk, please call the role. [16:54] » Trusty Orth. Yes. Whitaker. [16:57] » Yes. Fowler. [16:58] » Yes. >> Gallon. [17:00] » Yes. >> Pussyas. [17:01] » Yes. >> Elfman. [17:03] » Yes. >> Motion carries. [17:05] » Okay. The next item of business is to conduct [17:11] uh a public hearing for the proposed village center tax incremental financing [17:17] district. May I have a motion and a second to open the public hearing? [17:22] » So moved. >> Second. All those in favor? [17:26] » I >> opposed. [17:30] Okay. I am calling to order the public hearing for the village center tiff at [17:35] 7:13 p.m. on August 25th, 2026. I will stop here again and remind you if [17:43] that you would like to make comments, you need to fill out a comment card so [17:47] that we can call your name and you can come to the podium and make your [17:52] statements. Um you can also decide at some point in the evening that you don't [17:57] wish to make comments. Um if if you don't come to the podium, we'll move on. [18:02] And I would encourage you um we know that this is an important issue and if [18:08] you we are going to stay to the three minute uh time frame because I already [18:14] have this many comment cards. So I would like to try to keep us to that uh [18:19] number. But I have a couple of things that I want to say before we get started [18:23] tonight. As we open this public hearing, I want to convey some thoughts about [18:28] what will happen here tonight. Northfield residents have always been [18:33] able to come together and talk about issues gracefully and with mutual [18:37] respect for all opinions. I hope that those who are here tonight can continue [18:42] that tradition as we move through these proceedings. [18:46] I also want to be clear about something. Our schools are important to this [18:51] village and so is a vibrant downtown. This isn't a choice between the two. We [18:58] want Northfield to have both excellent schools for our families can be proud of [19:03] and a village center that's alive with businesses, restaurants, and places for [19:08] neighbors to gather. That's the Northfield we're all working toward. And [19:13] it is with that lens that we will be approaching tonight's discussion. [19:18] I want to reiterate what I said in an email I sent to residents this [19:22] afternoon. We are working with the three affected school districts to negotiate [19:27] an agreement that supports both our students and our villages needs. There [19:33] have been three meetings between the superintendent and the village to date [19:38] and this morning we received the first draft of an intergovernmental agreement [19:42] based on those conversations. We have not yet had the chance to [19:47] thoroughly review the draft, but we are at the table with our partners at the [19:52] schools working in good faith toward an agreement that serves the interest of [19:57] both the schools and the village. I'll be honest, reaching that agreement [20:03] will likely require some compromise on both sides and it may be uncomfortable [20:08] at times, but that's the work of good governance and it's work we're committed [20:14] to seeing through. With that, Greg, would you please provide an overview of [20:20] the process for this evening? [20:27] » I'll borrow your microphone. Thank you, Pre. President Mendrich. Um, yes. So, [20:30] the the TIFF Act establishes a number of steps the village must take when [20:34] considering whether to uh create a TI district. The village has taken many of [20:38] these steps over the course of the past few months, including evaluating the [20:42] properties in the TIF district, analyzing the eligibility of those [20:45] properties under the TIFF Act, preparing an eligibility report and redevelopment [20:49] plan, creating an interested parties registry, making the plan available to [20:52] the public, setting a public hearing date. This happened back in June. That's [20:56] why everyone is here this evening. uh and convening the joint review board [20:59] which is comprised of representatives from each of the taxing districts. Uh [21:03] the JRB met twice, once in July and then once earlier this month to review the [21:07] proposed tiff district and related documents. That brings us to tonight the [21:11] public hearing. The hearing serves a couple of purposes. First, it allows the [21:16] village board to review the proposed redevelopment plan and project, which is [21:19] the TIFF proposal, and evaluate whether or not the proposal is consistent with [21:23] the TIFF Act standards and criteria. Uh the village's tiff consultant Caitlyn [21:28] Johnson with SB Freriedman will present on that topic in a couple of minutes. Uh [21:32] but the public hearing also provides the public an opportunity uh to provide the [21:36] board with feedback concerning the proposed tip district. As well to be [21:40] clear, the village board is not voting on the tiff district proposal tonight. [21:45] There are three ordinances that the board ultimately must consider if there [21:49] were if they were to approve a tiff district and those are not on tonight's [21:52] agenda. Instead, the public hearing tonight is an opportunity for further [21:56] dialogue concerning the proposed TIFF district and all interested parties uh [22:00] and there are many will have an opportunity to address the board during [22:03] the hearing. After public comment is concluded, the board may consider [22:07] closing the public hearing. Once the hearing has been closed, the TIFF act [22:12] provides a time frame during which the ordinances necessary to establish the [22:15] tiff district can be presented to the board for consideration. That time frame [22:19] is between 14 and and 90 days after the hearing is closed. I'll now turn it over [22:26] to Caitlyn Johnson with SB Freriedman uh to discuss the eligibility findings and [22:31] the redevelopment. [22:38] Okay. So, um [22:43] we're we're not we're not quite ready. Um, I think the first thing before we [22:48] get into SB Freriedman's report, I'm sure all of you have um heard us talk [22:53] about this or me talk about this, but the goals and vision for this um this [22:58] area um we have concerns that um our village um is not performing as we might [23:07] have hoped. We have a 47,000 square foot empty storefront in our buil in our [23:13] village. Um, we are looking for a vibrant, walkable, um, downtown that is [23:21] a safe place for our families to gather and students to gather and and for [23:29] residents to really be able to come together and enjoy our community. Um, [23:34] the vision that I see in my head is a vibrant uh former Mariano space um with [23:42] the Skoi Valley Trail adjacent to it with a brand new library um sitting [23:49] where it currently sits with a brand new post office and um having streetscapes [23:56] and having a HAP road that has safe crossings for residents. So when we talk [24:03] about our vision, those are the things that we're talking about. We have also [24:08] um as as many of you know gone back and reaffirmed the uh 2040 comprehensive [24:15] plan that a group of residents put together. Um it does talk about some of [24:19] the things that I have already discussed. Um but you when the HAP road [24:24] committee got together and did their work on what a new HAP road could look [24:28] like um uh Francisco Gonzalez Pledo who is a a resident and a renowned architect [24:36] um put together some drawings because we think that sometimes people need visuals [24:41] and not just words. So, I wanted to just share some of the visions that he came [24:45] up with for Hap Road, but I think that they uh piqued all of our interest in [24:50] trying to create a downtown that that has uh you know, again, dedicated [24:56] walking paths, places that people can cross the streets safely to get to and [25:01] from our businesses. Um, again, another view of what could be [25:08] um our downtown. This is not to say that this is what we will have, but just some [25:13] visuals of what a new downtown for Northfield could look like. [25:20] Um, again, I mentioned the library. This is the initial design for the library. [25:25] Um, it is a gateway into our community from Willow Road and HAP. Uh, that [25:32] sidewalk that you see there coming off the left of the screen goes all the way [25:36] out to Willow Road. creates an entry into our village there as well. The [25:41] library is on the east side. The post office sits on the west side and the [25:47] connecting building on top is is more of library space that they can use for [25:53] other programming. Um some people have asked me why we need a new library and [25:58] frankly um the library came to us and said we need more space. we can't do the [26:03] programming we'd like to in Northfield and we have committed to working with [26:07] the library to to create that new space. Um it's you or me. Um [26:16] I want to talk a little bit about our empty storefront. Um which is a concern [26:22] I think for everyone. We've heard from all um walks of life in Northfield that [26:27] they'd like to have a grocery store. Uh as we all know that the owner has had [26:32] trouble finding a tenant for the full building. Um they are now in a position [26:38] where they are talking to tenants that would be a ger in one half of the [26:43] building, an adult beverage in the other half of the building as well as an [26:48] outlot um across from the the current bank. So up against Willow Road. [26:56] They have indicated to us that they can't make the deal work without some [27:00] help from the village. Um and that is really where we are with them right now. [27:07] There are expenses like dividing the building site prep and improvements that [27:12] um they are beginning well not beginning that they have been looking at that are [27:16] costly. Um, I don't think that anybody uh in this room probably doesn't know [27:22] that there have been environmental issues on that site that that everybody [27:26] has heard about by now, which are a concern for uh any tenant that moves [27:31] into that space. So you couple that with the library again site conditions there [27:38] um the the curse of of being a village that's built along rail lines is that [27:44] there are site conditions that you have to deal with. Uh and then there is the [27:49] HAP road redesign that we talked about earlier this evening that includes um [27:55] redesign of the space, construction costs, things that have been put on hold [28:00] um with federal funding and state funding because we weren't prepared to [28:04] move forward with the project of a few years ago. As um you all know that was a [28:10] an important conversation that we all had together. Uh and then the other [28:14] thing is water manes, sewers, sidewalks, lighting, things like that. Water manes [28:19] are not the most exciting topic in the world, but uh the fact of the matter is [28:23] that there are water manes in this area, this tiff district, potential tiff tiff [28:28] district that need to be repaired. Um those can run anywhere from $1.5 million [28:35] up to $2 million depending on the size of the water man and how much pipe needs [28:40] to be replaced. Um, so these are all costs related to our downtown village [28:48] center right now that we're aware of. And as I said, these are just inside the [28:54] proposed TIFF district. Um, we talk about sources of revenue for [29:00] the village. I want to put a I just want to make sure that people understand [29:05] where this board is on that consideration. Um, [29:10] I'll I'll Patrick, you can jump in on a couple of things, but I want to just [29:14] talk about property taxes because many of you in this room were involved in in [29:19] the um home rule initiative that this village took on some years ago. Um, home [29:24] rule, as you know, allows us to work outside of some of the um the sweeping [29:34] um legislation that Springfield passes. And so they often pass legislation that [29:41] does not require home rule communities to participate. And when we did that, I [29:47] was the co-chair of that committee. Kathy Esesterbrook, who's sitting in the [29:50] room, was very involved in it. uh we asked the sitting board at the time to [29:55] promise that they would never raise property taxes above the CPI which no [30:00] board has done previously and which this board does not intend to do either. So, [30:07] um, a few other things that are possible ways to raise some money, taxes, fees, [30:14] permits, um, water rates, but I'm going to let Patrick give you some of the nuts [30:19] and bolts of some of those topics as we move along here. So, Patrick, please. [30:23] » Thank you. That's a list of the typical revenue sources that you'd see a village [30:27] normally, the levers they would pull to raise additional revenue. There are a [30:31] couple of other special things that the board has looked at and that are [30:34] available to to villages that are home rule communities. A special service [30:38] area, you may heard of that. It's a way to levy additional property taxes on a [30:43] set area that puts an additional property tax burden on for a period of [30:48] time, but used to pay to fund a particular project. You often hear of it [30:52] in Northfield for many of the private lanes. they will ask for a special [30:57] service area to be applied so they can repave a roadway or rebuild a roadway [31:01] and then pay for that over a period of time. In this example, it doesn't work [31:05] well for the village because we're looking at working on an area that's [31:08] already not doing well financially. To levy an additional property tax on the [31:13] area would not be helpful for our goals. So, we looked at property tax rebate. [31:17] That is rebating directly to the taxpayer amount of their property taxes. [31:23] It's unlimited value to us because the village portion of the total tax bill is [31:28] only about 12%. So that isn't a a big incentive for most people. Another [31:33] option is something called a business development district. It is the [31:37] application of an additional tax like a sales tax on top of retail sales or [31:44] hotel uh uh room rentals. It is an additional re revenue source, but it [31:50] generally works well in areas that have high retail capacity or activity. For [31:55] example, an outdoor mall area. That's something that would raise a significant [31:59] number of funds for a village. Here, not so effective. Very similarly, sales tax [32:05] rebate is you can work deals to have rebates going back to those that are [32:10] collecting the sales tax as a way to incentivize growth or location in the [32:14] village. Additional options were raised to us [32:19] were Cook County 6B and 7B. You see the information there. Uh 6B is primarily [32:24] for industrial use. So that wouldn't work. 7B may have limited application [32:29] but again that lowers the overall EAV for that property for a period of time. [32:35] So it actually is harmful to many of the districts because it lowers their [32:38] capacity. And then as president mentioned uh Mrick mentioned uh raising [32:43] property taxes is an option. We are in the ballpark of our neighbors, which is [32:47] a competitive advantage because we're not in a high uh property tax area that [32:53] helps people relocate here. So, we're we're in line. It's the last resort, but [32:59] the next option looked at and it was something mentioned in the comprehensive [33:02] plan is a tax increment financing district. I see a number of familiar [33:07] faces in the room tonight, a number of new faces, so I won't go into a lot of [33:11] detail on this. You can read the slide probably in the amount of time I've [33:15] talked so far. This is something that the board has looked at as a fiscally [33:20] smart move to be able to minimize the impact on everyone yet raise the [33:24] greatest amount of potential benefit to achieve the village's goals. [33:29] The board has full oversight on the expenditures of how those funds are used [33:34] and they've looked at the estimated impact and for a $500,000 home. If we in [33:39] raise that increment that value about $5 million, it's a $38 impact on the home. [33:44] That's one of the many questions we received from residents about what is [33:48] this potentially going to do to us. Later in uh the presentations today, [33:52] we'll address a number of the other questions that have come in. However, [33:57] with tiff districts, almost universally when a village is looking at it, the [34:01] school districts raise concerns and they've got valid concerns about how's [34:06] this tiff district going to impact them because when they look at new growth, [34:10] they want to figure out what's the impact and to help present some of that [34:15] information. I think Dr. Tyos, were you planning on presenting tonight? [34:20] » Please. Thank you. >> And Melissa, if you'd ceue up their [34:23] presentation, please. >> Thanks, Melissa. Before [34:28] we get further into the presentation, if anyone is planning to speak tonight, [34:33] we're going to swear everybody in all at once so we don't have to do this 35 or [34:37] 40 times. So, uh, if you could just raise your right hand if you're planning [34:39] to speak tonight. Repeat after or and just affirm that this is correct. Do you [34:44] hereby affirm the testimony you provide tonight is the truth, the whole truth, [34:47] and nothing but the truth? >> Yes. [34:51] » You're sworn in. Thank you. Thank you. [34:56] Thank you so much. Thank you. Please go ahead. [35:00] » Thank you. Um I'm Peter Trigos. I'm proud superintendent at Nutri and I'm [35:03] also a proud Northfield resident for the last 25 years as well. So um I will [35:08] share a brief part of this and turn it over to Chris Johnson who's the deputy [35:11] superintendent at Nutrier. Um and then uh I'll close out as as well here. So [35:17] President Mendick, thank you for making time for the school districts on your [35:20] agenda. We appreciate it. It's uh not only a packed house, but it's a packed [35:23] agenda. So, we do appreciate uh making time for us on the agenda. In this short [35:27] presentation, we will summarize our consultants um report, Joe Psky's [35:32] report. It's a report that we've submitted to village trustees and that [35:35] we've shared and that we've also submitted to the JRB as well. Um he was [35:39] unable to attend due to a prior conf uh commitment. So, Chris and I will share [35:44] that today. we'd like to present a highle summary of his findings and we'd [35:48] also like to share um what the impact is on the three school districts and ask [35:52] you to all consider that in your deliberations uh this evening and [35:55] throughout the process. So um you know first and foremost it's important to [35:59] state and we've said this in every meeting we've been in to to to agree on [36:03] and share here. It's important to state that we have a shared interest in a [36:06] vibrant uh central business district in Northfield and our other uh uh uh [36:11] villages throughout the township as well. and we appreciate the respect and [36:14] civil service that you all provide to the village and volunteering your time [36:19] um in this. So, thank you and we understand what those roles are and how [36:22] important they are. I also want to echo President Mendri's uh comments at the [36:25] beginning of this um opening agenda about the mutual interests. We do indeed [36:29] have mutual interests. We may have differences and we can talk about those [36:32] differences and share those. But honestly, we have some shared mutual [36:35] interest that you'll see here a bit to today. um really through through this is [36:41] um we share those interests and you know we're we're you're investing in your [36:45] infrastructure and and modernizing your central business district and we [36:48] understand that we're investing in our infrastructure too and modernizing for [36:52] the same people in the village here and also throughout the township. So so we [36:56] get it um we agree on the problem and also have said we agree on the problem [37:01] however we disagree on the solution right now. Um and that is we support [37:05] development. It's good for all of us. We do not support the TIFF as a mechanism [37:09] for that redevelopment, especially as we start to see resoning starting to turn [37:12] that flywheel. Perhaps not as fast as others think, but we think it's an um a [37:17] viable opportunity to do so. So, again, we're starting to see some of that here. [37:21] We know that we may see that differently, but want to recognize that [37:24] it's starting to bring some development here to our village. We'll um talk a bit [37:29] about the summary report and recognizing again that you see this. We believe in [37:33] strong villages um as well uh or excuse me in up these projections from the [37:37] strong villages to what you've started to project in the village this $175 [37:41] million set of needs for redevelopment. We've seen that and we understand what [37:45] those needs are and you've laid those out as well. Those are needed [37:48] redevelopment costs and we recognize that the village is also you know as you [37:52] start to look at this implementing a funding mechanism though however that [37:55] could generate up to three times what the stated revenue is needed in that our [37:59] consultant Joe Pvki you've seen the report estimates that tiff could [38:03] generate on the low side you see this in the middle projected incremental um [38:07] gains of $253 million on the low end and on the medium end up to $459 [38:13] um million. These projections and the formulas that yield these projections [38:18] were also shared with SB Freriedman. You're and we you know we were an open [38:22] book in showing our work on this and we appreciate the collaborations with that [38:26] with and these estimates are without objection from SB Freriedman. So these [38:29] are the potential um uh revenues to to be uh yielded through uh the TIFF [38:35] district here. So, based on these projections, a 23-year TIFF um not only [38:39] exceeds the project cost of $175 million, but will likely exceed the [38:43] village's annual general fund revenue over that same time period as well. So, [38:48] something for you all to consider in that. Um from here, I would like to turn [38:52] it over to Chris Johnson um at this point and then um pick it up. [38:57] » Thank you. A pleasure to be here tonight to speak again on on the TIFF. So, the [39:00] headline here is the significant financial impact on school districts. [39:04] One of the reasons school districts are typically concerned about tiffs is that [39:08] we're primarily funded through local property tax dollars. In the case of our [39:12] school districts, about 90% of our revenue with a small amount of funding [39:15] from the state, about 2% small amount of funding from federal government, about [39:19] 2% as well. So substantial money if a tiff was created could be diverted from [39:24] our school districts over the life of the tiff. This is potential new property [39:27] revenue in excess of our levy. These estimates uh you see on the screen are [39:31] based on assumptions compiled by our consultant who Peter mentioned earlier [39:35] or retained by the school districts that uses assumptions included in the [39:38] villages plan and tiff study. So you see uh that low reassessment value [39:43] potentially 150 million in new property diverted from the three school districts [39:46] at a medium uh reassessment failure of 4% about 169 million over the life of a [39:51] 23-year tiff. [39:56] We have relied on new property as school as we call it uh to supplement our levy [40:01] beyond inflation. Our annual increase for that 90% of our revenue is capped at [40:06] the consumer price index the inflation number from the prior year. New [40:10] construction really is the only increase for us beyond that. And in the case of [40:13] nutrier specifically has been vital to avoid an operating rate referendum for [40:17] 23 years. We last did an operating rate referendum in 2003 and made a 5-year [40:21] commitment not to have one. Now we're at 23 years in large part due to that new [40:26] property revenue which just brought us a little bit more each year than CPI. [40:30] Another factor that is important especially for a district like Nutrier [40:33] is that the value of property increase as the value of property increases in [40:37] the tiff zone school districts continue to levy the same amount. Meaning over [40:41] that time residents outside the tiff zone will pay more for school district [40:45] taxes. So particularly for Nutrier who serves Wat Gleno Wka all the other [40:50] communities each of those uh residents will pay a little bit more in their [40:54] property tax bill as the EAV is frozen properties in the tiff zone and that [41:00] incremental revenue goes to the tiff fund. [41:05] As Patrick mentioned earlier there are other mechanisms available that can [41:09] generate funds for improvement such as the special service area bond. We [41:12] understand there are concerns about using some of these mechanisms, but [41:16] these mechanisms do exist and they could generate some revenue, potentially not [41:20] as much as the tiff. TIFF is one option, but there are others as well. [41:27] Schools have been responsible stewards of our finances and maintain fund [41:31] balances, which are essentially our savings accounts. These allow us to [41:34] continue to fund our operations as revenue is distributed to us two times [41:38] per year when tax bills are issued or they say in Cook County lately if tax [41:42] bills are issued. Uh funds have been critical during delays and property tax [41:46] payments. While we know the gross dollar amounts have been presented previously, [41:50] it's the context that matters. How many months of expenditures they fund, which [41:55] averages about seven or eight months for our school district. So when you look at [41:58] last year when property tax bills were six months late, having these reserves [42:02] was a vital lifeline for our school districts to continue to pay our [42:05] teachers, to continue to uh offer our programs and operate our facilities [42:09] without using highcost borrowing. [42:15] The school districts believe that development is already occurring. School [42:19] districts respectfully disagree with the eligibility finding. The tiff shifts [42:23] costs to residents outside the tiff zone. We believe the loss of new [42:27] property growth is significant for school districts and the scale may be [42:31] larger than the vill's identified needs of 175 million. Uh I'll turn it over to [42:37] Peter, but I I I want to just share my thanks to to the village board for their [42:40] service and to Patrick who's been just a wonderful partner in this and we [42:44] appreciate the collaboration uh even though we see uh things a bit [42:48] differently. So uh thank you for your service and Patrick thank you for all [42:52] you're doing in this process and I'll turn it over to Peter. [42:58] I'll close here. Um almost where we started with a tiff and [43:02] intergovernmental agreement here. Um you know our position on the tiff. I think [43:06] we've made it clear here and in our in our forums. Uh we advocate for a [43:10] non-piff non-tiff path uh to a vibrant downtown uh Northfield and central [43:16] business district. However, school um however, if the village moves forward [43:19] with a tiff, uh we want to stay engaged in these discussions between the village [43:24] and the school districts to develop an IGA um to meet both needs here. An IGA [43:30] can lessen but it cannot completely mitigate the impact on schools. You [43:33] heard the impact right here. Uh the long range impact on schools is significant. [43:37] um and an IGA in the best of terms and continue our collaborations um we can [43:42] indeed lessen those and we we ask the village uh not to approve it with with [43:47] um without an IGA in place. So if that's your going forward really you know the [43:51] the ask here is if you're going to continue to do that or this is the path [43:54] you pursue we ask that that go hand inand with an IGA and that would be our [43:58] our ask and again we you see here in our last statement a vibrant community and [44:02] strong villages and strong schools. Thank you very much. [44:05] » Thank you. [44:16] So, um, while our representative from SB Freedom approaches the podium, I just [44:21] wanted to point out the joint review board that was chaired by Dr. Chris [44:24] Johnson, uh, voted against recommending the tiff district for the village. So [44:29] you've re the village board has received a copy of their minutes that indicate [44:33] that that was their reasoning for saying no and that articulated their reasons [44:37] for forwarding a negative recommendation. At this time some of you [44:41] that have been here you may recommend or may recognize that this does not look [44:45] anything like Kait Caitlyn from SP Freriedman. Uh Caitlyn had something [44:49] happen that was totally outside of her control that she's unable to attend this [44:52] evening and uh we've been lucky enough to have um Karen step up and take the [44:58] lead for us. >> Wonderful. Thank you. [45:00] » So Melissa, if you bring up their presentation, please [45:04] » and you you'll advance the slides. >> Can you please see? [45:10] » Yes. >> Pull it forward. [45:17] All right. I'll go ahead and get started. Thank you all for your time [45:20] this evening. As Patrick mentioned, [45:25] my name is Karen K, which will be evident on the slide in a moment. [45:31] I'll go ahead and get the introduction started. My name is Karen Kay. I'm a [45:33] senior vice president with SB Friedman. I am accompanied in the wings by Ryd [45:37] Bose, a partner with SB Friedman. And um we are standing in for Caitlyn Johnson, [45:41] who unfortunately couldn't be here. As I believe many are familiar, SB Freebin is [45:45] a consulting firm based out of Chicago that specializes in public private [45:48] partnerships, special district designations, underwriting, um, economic [45:53] development and housing related matters. Uh, and this evening we're going to [45:57] focus on the statutory requirements for TIFF districts. So, we'll walk through [46:01] the eligibility factors and the required findings and tests to demonstrate uh, [46:06] the conditions within the proposed redevelopment project area. I will start [46:10] with an overview of the proposed project area. The district includes 141 10-digit [46:16] parcels. It accounts for 106 acres and 76 primary structures. The parcels are a [46:23] combination of 25 improved parcels. Two vacant parcels and 14 parcels that are [46:28] right-of-way. Right-of-way parcels are not included in eligibility analysis. [46:32] And so we'll only be focused on the improved and the vacant properties [46:35] within the proposed district. Right now, the district, as many folks know, is a [46:40] mix of vacant, commercial, industrial, mixed use, uh, public, open space, [46:44] rightway, and utility related properties. [46:48] As I said, I'm going to focus on the statutory eligibility and requirements [46:53] for TIFF designations per the Illinois TIFF Act. There are different [46:57] requirements for improved parcels versus vacant parcels. And I'll start with the [47:01] improved parcels. Improved parcels must have 50% of buildings which are at least [47:07] 35 years old or older and at least three eligibility factors of the myriad [47:12] available uh present across the district. We have to find district [47:16] factors meaningfully present and reasonably distributed across the entire [47:19] boundary of a proposed district. Um, and based on our both desktop and fieldwork [47:25] research, we found that 89% of primary buildings within the proposed RPA are at [47:30] least 35 years old. And there are four documented eligibility factors present [47:34] in the district. Those are lack of growth in EAV, which I'll talk through [47:37] in a moment, the presence of structures below minimum code standards, inadequate [47:41] utilities, and deterioration of both site and structures. for vacant [47:46] properties within the district. As I said, we have to find eligibility for at [47:49] least two factors present within the district. Those that were found include [47:54] lack of growth in EAV, which is a standalone criteria um from the improved [47:58] factors, and then also deterioration of structures or site improvements in [48:02] neighboring areas adjacent to the vacant land. [48:07] So, I'll go into a little bit more detail on the EAV standards per the act. [48:11] Per the TIFF act, there are three different mechanisms or pathways to [48:15] demonstrate lack of growth in EAV and BIFF eligible. The first is an overall [48:20] decline in EAV in three of the last five calendar years. The second is an [48:25] increase in EAV at a rate less than the balance of the village as a whole. And [48:29] the third is an increase in the district EAV at a rate lower than CPI for at [48:35] least three of the last five year-over-year periods. The proposed RPA [48:39] meets the criteria for the the comparison relative to the village as a [48:43] whole for four of the last five year-over-year periods. And it meets the [48:48] criteria for growth slower than this than CPI for three of the last five [48:52] year-over-year periods. [48:56] I'll now walk through just at a high level a few of the other statutory [49:00] findings that are required to designate a TIFF district and then I'll go into [49:03] greater detail on three of them. There must be lack of growth from private [49:08] investment in any tiff district that is proposed. You must make the but for [49:12] finding which is that development would not happen but for a tiff district. [49:16] Parcels must be must be contiguous. A proposed district must be in conformance [49:20] with plans of the village. That the village must certify that there will not [49:24] be resident displacement or conduct a housing study and there must be an [49:28] identified date of completion. The village um has found that private [49:33] investment has not produced sustained areawide redevelopment as evidenced by a [49:38] limited new construction activity and lagging EAV growth in the proposed [49:42] district. The redevelopment objectives of the plan would not reasonably be [49:46] achieved without public assistance as discussed um by the village president [49:50] due to extraordinary infrastructure costs, the age of buildings and [49:54] condition of buildings. The RPA consists of contiguous parcels that will benefit [49:59] substantially upon implementation of the redevelopment plan. The redevelopment [50:03] plan conforms to and promotes land uses and objectives identified in the village [50:07] of Northfield's vision 240 comprehensive plan. The village has certified that no [50:12] resident displacement will occur as a result of activities pursuant to the [50:16] redevelopment plan and the plan is estimated to be completed no later than [50:20] December 31st, 2050. [50:25] As I said, I'll go into a couple of these criteria a little bit more [50:29] specifically as it relates to lack of private investment. Uh that finding the [50:33] TIFF Act requires that a municipality finds the redevelopment project area on [50:38] the whole has not been subject to growth and development through investment by [50:41] private enterprise and would not reasonably be anticipated to be [50:45] developed without the adoption of a redevelopment plan. As has been [50:49] mentioned, private investment has been isolated and limited in scope across the [50:53] proposed redevelopment project area and um the district overall lags in EAV [50:59] growth. When we look at the most recent year's performance from 2019 to 2024, [51:05] there was only 15% EAV growth over that 5-year period, which lagged cumulative [51:10] inflation uh and only accounts for about a 2.8% compound annual growth rate. [51:16] Since 2021, there have only been major improvements, uh, building permits [51:21] exceeding 100,000 on nine of 141 parcels across the district. And there have only [51:27] been two proposed projects, one 12-unit condominium project and one proposed 92 [51:32] unit multif family project. Collectively, those two projects do not [51:35] demonstrate sustained areawide private investment. And therefore, SB Freeman [51:40] found that the lack of private investment finding was met. [51:45] Switching gears to the second half of that same statement within the tiff act [51:49] that private investment would not reasonably be anticipated to be [51:52] developed uh with without the adoption of the redevelopment plans. This is the [51:58] but for case that we talked about earlier that development and investment [52:01] would not occur but for the implementation of a tiff district. [52:05] Again, the documented extraordinary costs both in the TIFF plan and as [52:09] spoken to this evening uh indicate that the plan identified uh by the village [52:14] and the comprehensive plan and again in the redevelopment plan would not be [52:17] developed in accordance um without implementation of the tiff district and [52:22] tiff assistance that is attributable to deteriorated buildings uh outdated [52:27] utilities and infrastructure environmental remediation concerns and [52:30] needs elevated construction and financing costs that we're experiencing [52:35] uh regionally and then project specific expenses that create substantial fund f [52:39] funding gaps on projects. Uh we also know from proposed projects within the [52:44] district and again one was spoken to or about this evening and there's also the [52:48] 92 unit proposed multif family development that developers have [52:51] indicated a need for public assistance to advance projects within the proposed [52:55] redevelopment project area. And although we've talked about other potential [52:59] pathways for providing public assistance, there's no requirement that [53:03] all alternative funding mechanisms be exhausted before establing establishing [53:07] a tiff district. And as um has been mentioned, a number of those alternate [53:11] pathways have repercussions or impacts on project feasibility as well. [53:17] And I'll finish with conformance to the comprehensive plan. So this requirement [53:22] states the municipality must find that the de the redevelopment plan and [53:25] project conform to the comprehensive plan for the development of the [53:28] municipality as a whole. Um the vision 2040 plan must be read as an integrated [53:34] policy document and conformance must be evaluated as the plan as a whole and not [53:39] single components of that plan document. The vision 2040 plan does call for [53:43] avoiding adverse school impacts but it does not prohibit the establishment of [53:47] tiff. It does propose the creation of a mixeduse land use framework consistent [53:52] with the vision 2040 plan uh that directly overlaps this uh proposed [53:57] redevelopment project area. So with that I will conclude um that the [54:03] proposed RPA satisfies the eligibility criteria of the act uh as a combination [54:07] of both vacant blighted land and improved conservation area land factors. [54:11] As just articulated, the eligibility factors are documented to a meaningful [54:15] extent and reasonably distributed across portions of the RPA to which they apply. [54:20] The RPA is no less not less than 1.5 acres, is within the village, is [54:24] contiguous and includes only property expected to be substantially benefited [54:27] by the plan itself. The RPA on the whole has not experienced sufficient growth [54:33] and development through private investment and would not reasonably be [54:36] anticipated to be developed in accordance with the plan but for the [54:40] implementation of the tiff. The plan conforms to the vi vision plan 20 240 [54:45] and establishes the required pro program and financial framework and contains [54:49] material findings and information as required by the act and the plan is [54:53] reasonably expected to enhance the long-term tax base of the overlapping [54:57] tax districts by addressing conditions that impair redevelopment [55:01] encouraging private investment and improving infrastructure and property [55:04] conditions. So with that, I'll conclude by saying the the proposed village [55:09] center RPA is eligible for designation and the plan as presented satisfies the [55:13] applicable eligibility criteria, plan requirements and objective of the TIFF [55:17] act. [55:32] Thank you, Karen. Melissa, if you bring our slide deck back up, please. [55:45] » So, I'm going to skip ahead a couple of slides here because I think uh Karen did [55:48] a nice job explaining uh where we find an eligibility. So I had planned on [55:54] going through a report from the school district uh and talking about where what [55:59] they had asserted we feel doesn't meet or is in a criteria but um I'll instead [56:04] focus on something that Dr. Trios had said is that we're working together. Uh [56:09] we recognize the board recognizes that there are potentially impacts at school [56:13] districts as this tiff proceeds. if this test proceeds that those concerns [56:20] primarily fall in a couple of areas you see bulleted there and that is the [56:24] delayed receipt of new property growth. The potential for a growth of housing in [56:29] the district that creates an additional demand on the schools for staffing for [56:35] school uh classroom space and if we uh the village does that other villages may [56:41] do the same thing. So, our discussions have really focused on what can we do to [56:46] help mitigate those first two concerns as far as ensuring that the districts [56:51] get um additional funding beyond what is required in the TIFF Act for their needs [56:56] if those needs do in fact come to fruition. We're working on it. As uh [57:01] President Metric Metric stated, we have a draft intergovernmental agreement and [57:05] we'll continue working through that going forward. [57:10] Um so through this process we have received [57:15] a a large number of emails from residents. Many are asking questions and [57:20] we've gone through all those emails looked at what their questions are and [57:24] really kind of tried to distill them into some common um themes of what we're [57:28] hearing. All of you here can read this and luckily my text is big enough [57:32] because Kathy told me to check it ahead of time to make sure we could see it on [57:36] the screen. So it is visible. Uh so I won't read all of these uh to you [57:41] because that would just not be fair. But uh one of the common questions we're [57:45] getting is is the village currently negotiating with developers for this [57:50] tiff if it happens to promise funds or promise developments or promise some [57:54] special thing to them in the future going forward. The answer is no. We are [57:59] talking to the owners of 1822 Willow the former Mariano site as mentioned earlier [58:04] in the slides. We need help. Go ahead. Sure. [58:10] » Thank you. So, we're talking to them. They've made a funding request. They're [58:15] not specifying how that funding comes, but the size of the request um is beyond [58:20] the vill's capabilities of funding without outside assistance. And they're [58:24] indicating if this deal can't be brokered, can't happen, that they are [58:29] out of options for that building. And they uh don't know what the next step [58:33] would be other than vacancy. Uh we've been asked about other [58:37] alternatives. You heard some of those presentations tonight. We've looked at [58:40] other alternatives. Uh and there's been concern about is there something other [58:45] than tiff that can be used? As we mentioned that there's over 300 tiff [58:49] districts in the Cook County suburbs of Chicago is a tool used commonly to help [58:55] spur and stimulate growth. And uh we're getting questions about uh could an [59:00] independent party come review what we've done? The answer is, of course, the [59:04] school district uh has hired their independent consultant to take a look [59:07] and offer their opinion as far as what the villages consultant has presented. [59:11] And you heard those findings this evening. [59:16] And uh while the display we had earlier had an answer to all these questions, [59:22] um I'm going to really do this one on the fly. Um and I'm not sure how that's [59:28] missing. Um [59:33] But it definitely is. So, what will residents receive if TIFF uh passes? Uh [59:40] really the answer for that is we're going to be moving forward closer to the [59:45] vision that the community had started five years ago or six years ago when [59:49] they adopted the comprehensive plan and it's a more vibrant uh vital downtown, a [59:54] place that is a core for the village and a place to gather. Will the tiff [59:58] district change your property taxes? probably yes. Uh you saw the the number [1:00:03] earlier that about a $5 million worth of growth within the tiff district we're [1:00:08] calculating out to be about a $38 impact of your home value to $500,000. If your [1:00:13] home is a million dollar, you can double that number and have a good idea of what [1:00:16] that sense is. That number, that $38 is less impact than if the village raised [1:00:23] property taxes to try to achieve the goal of all these uh items moving [1:00:28] forward. And you may think why? Well, the reason it's less is because uh what [1:00:33] uh Dr. Johnson explained that the tiff impact that fee is paid not just by [1:00:40] those here in Northfield, it's everybody in Cook County. So Cook County property [1:00:46] taxes as EAVs grow and levies raise, everybody in Cook County pays a little [1:00:52] bit extra because this area designed by the tiff district isn't contributing in [1:00:57] that growth because those funds are directed to the village to be reinvested [1:01:02] within the tiff area. So if you hear that tiff doesn't impact your property [1:01:08] taxes, it does. The goal though is over the long term when the TIFF is ended all [1:01:14] that new EAV equalized assessed valuation growth gets released so [1:01:20] everybody pays less percentage of future property taxes because of the work done [1:01:25] by the village. And without going too deep into it, let me give you a real [1:01:29] world example. The Marianos property, they're paying upper $600,000 a year in [1:01:35] a tax bill for a building when it was leased. They're going to appeal their [1:01:40] taxes when the windows open to lower that because it's currently a vacant [1:01:43] building and they will most likely be successful. I'm going to make up the [1:01:47] number here. $400,000 gets knocked off their tax bill. The next tax bill that [1:01:54] comes around, every taxpayer in Northfield is going to pay a little [1:01:58] extra to make up for that $400,000 that the Marianos property is not providing. [1:02:04] They're not contributing to the overall tax bill. That's the magic as we look at [1:02:09] for trying to grow the tiff district EAV because that higher value in that [1:02:14] district means everybody pays a lower percentage [1:02:18] and that's our goal over time just to help make that happen to make a [1:02:21] healthier Northfield. Um what accountab accountability controls be in place for [1:02:26] expenditures? The board hasn't started working on that yet. If the tiff looks [1:02:31] like it's moving forward, we'll start having discussions about accountability [1:02:35] and rules and applications and forms to get a process laid out so it's [1:02:41] transparent. Everybody can see it on the website and uh developers that are [1:02:45] looking for assistance will be able to see how to uh make a request for that. [1:02:50] And then fin >> Patrick, I'm sorry, but ultimately it [1:02:52] would come before this board before any TIFF funds were dispersed. [1:02:56] » Yes. So the tiff fund would be managed much like the village's annual budget [1:03:01] where we would roughly budget what the revenue would be and then expenditures [1:03:05] and then if a developer is asking for funding assistance there's a [1:03:08] redevelopment agreement that must be negotiated and passed by the board that [1:03:12] is done at a public meeting. It's a public process for adopting that [1:03:16] document and it would be on our packet in our website so you can see it. Even [1:03:20] if the village board uh moves forward and one of the other options is uh [1:03:24] grants for facade improvement grants, those expenditures are approved by the [1:03:29] village board as those grants are awarded. [1:03:33] How will we know if the tiff is succeeding? That's a it's a common [1:03:36] question worded many different ways from people, but this comes up especially [1:03:39] when we start looking at the fact that the board is going to I believe if this [1:03:45] moves forward require a midterm reevaluation of the tiff. Is it [1:03:49] succeeding? Is it achieving goals that success looks like an active vibrant [1:03:54] healthy downtown? Right now the tiff district area is lagging growth of the [1:03:59] rest of the village by 19% over five years. That's drag. That's actually [1:04:04] raising everybody's property taxes. Getting that closer to even if not [1:04:08] exceeding the rest of the village would be a good sign that this is moving well. [1:04:14] And the version of this gets posted on our website sometime tomorrow. We'll [1:04:19] have the answers to the rest of the questions. I'm sorry. I have no idea why [1:04:22] that's blanked out. [1:04:29] So, we're getting close with President Mendri's permission for this to enter [1:04:33] the public comment period. You see the information here about the speaker [1:04:36] cards. If anybody's come in late, please see one of our staff members speaker [1:04:41] card. When you fill out the card, if you don't want to speak, you can just note [1:04:44] your position on TIFF and any comments. The board will get all of these. They [1:04:48] will be retained, scanned in, and kept in the file with this public hearing [1:04:52] process. Just like those that have sent in comments, especially in the last few [1:04:56] days, saying, "I want this to be part of the record for the village, those emails [1:05:01] were received by the village board. They are part of the record and we will [1:05:04] retain them in our files." Thank you. [1:05:07] » Okay. Um, first of all, I'm going to say it again, the comment cards, if you [1:05:13] would like to make a comment or you're not sure if you want to make a comment, [1:05:17] please see Melissa or Holly at the end. Brett is upstairs, I think, with those [1:05:23] cards as well. Um, what I will do next is in order to keep [1:05:30] things moving along, I am going to call three names and I would like you to head [1:05:36] towards the podium. Um, make state your name and address so that we have that [1:05:41] for the record. make your comments in the three minute time frame and I will [1:05:46] keep calling additional names to join us at the podium or anyone who's upstairs [1:05:52] that needs to make their way down here to give them an opportunity to do so. [1:05:57] Okay, everybody here on the board square with what's happening next? All right, [1:06:01] super. Okay, so the first name on the list is Simon Babs. [1:06:07] The next one is Erica Foster. The next one is Mary Lind Bland. [1:06:15] If any of those people are in the room, not necessarily in order. If we're [1:06:19] waiting for people to arrive, we can certainly do that. Simon Babs. [1:06:26] Okay. If you, Erica, are ready, please go [1:06:32] ahead. >> Uh, Erica Foster, 305 Sunset Drive. Good [1:06:39] evening. >> Patty Morell, 255 Sunset Drive. [1:06:42] » We're gonna >> Yeah. Patty Morell, 255 Sunset Drive. [1:06:48] » We're gonna do this together for efficiency purposes. [1:06:50] » Yeah. >> Um and if you have music like the Oscars [1:06:53] at the three minute mark, I ask you to mute it. I'm going to borrow a little [1:06:56] bit of time from all the meetings I've attended and not spoken because tonight [1:06:59] I feel very compelled to speak. I would like to personally thank all the [1:07:03] trustees here for all the hard work you've done on behalf of the village. I [1:07:06] know it has not been an easy three months for you all. [1:07:10] I'm actually not up here to discuss the merits of the tiff. Shocking, I know. [1:07:15] Instead, on behalf of the many residents I have spoken to over the last few [1:07:18] months, I'm here to discuss restoring civility, kindness, and neighborliness [1:07:22] to this village. Over the last several months, it has been incredibly sad to [1:07:27] witness the village being needlessly torn apart over this tiff decision. I [1:07:31] sat on the village caucus for over a decade prior to my recent resignation. [1:07:35] I've been part of many complex village decisions, but I have been so [1:07:39] disappointed by the behaviors I've seen in the last few months. I'm deeply [1:07:43] troubled that we have a village board, a school board, a park board, and even the [1:07:47] library board that have been needlessly pitted against each other by residents. [1:07:51] I'm saddened to see neighbors and friends at odds. And it does not need to [1:07:56] be this way. This has escalated way beyond what's reasonable. [1:08:00] We celebrated our 100th anniversary this year. It was a lovely celebration. Thank [1:08:04] you to the trustees for that. And it restored my hope that we can [1:08:10] preserve our community. But we have to do the work. We have to make changes and [1:08:14] it has to happen tonight. At the celebration in the history room, we all [1:08:19] spent time reflecting on those who came before us in Northfield. And I cannot [1:08:24] imagine that those founders of this village would be pleased with what's [1:08:27] happening right now with how our residents are treating other residents [1:08:30] and treating this village board. I cannot imagine they'd be pleased with [1:08:34] our beautiful Northfield landscape littered with signs every time a village [1:08:39] board issue comes up. I cannot imagine our village founders would have dreamed [1:08:43] of residents lodging baseless allegations against this village board [1:08:46] claiming they have a nefarious purpose invoking the names of their private [1:08:50] employers or their family members. I cannot imagine they would be comfortable [1:08:55] with our school board members and village board members being publicly at [1:08:58] odds with one another. I have repeatedly described this [1:09:02] divisiveness as mutual assured destruction. If we continue down this [1:09:06] path of incivility, this does not end well for our village. No one wins. Our [1:09:10] brightest, most qualified residents won't serve on village boards and school [1:09:14] boards because they will fear for their families, their reputation, and their [1:09:17] livelihood. We will not explore opportunities for our villages or our [1:09:21] schools because board members and residents will be fearful to even [1:09:24] propose ideas that may result in backlash. We will have longtime friends [1:09:28] and neighbors not speaking. We have residents afraid to come to this meeting [1:09:32] to even speak about their views pro or against. It is the natural consequence [1:09:37] of our actions over the past several months. And if we do not make changes [1:09:42] right here, right now to stop the incivility, it will continue. Civic [1:09:46] engagement does not have to be divisive. These trustees are fine upstanding [1:09:50] citizens. to impugn their intelligence, their integrity, or their [1:09:54] trustworthiness is simply unacceptable and baseless. They are doing this as [1:09:58] unpaid volunteers for our community because they love our community and they [1:10:02] want to see it thrive. They don't have some ulterior motive. They don't have [1:10:06] anything to gain personally or financially. To baselessly suggest [1:10:10] otherwise is reckless. And I think we need to ask ourselves, [1:10:15] are we behaving as becoming of Northfielders? Residents are supposedly [1:10:19] so focused on schools, yet ironically, they themselves are not modeling the [1:10:23] very behavior we expect of our students. In district 29, we have school and [1:10:27] village board meetings where the tone of the meeting is divisive. Harsh words, [1:10:31] threats, whispers, clapping for a particular position, grumbling about an [1:10:34] opposing position. We would not accept this from our district 29 students. We [1:10:38] should not tolerate it from our residents. [1:10:42] It is not who we are. Our residents don't like the division either. They are [1:10:46] more uncomfortable with this division than they are of a tiff. I've had [1:10:49] countless residents say, "At this point, I don't even care if it happens or not. [1:10:52] I just want the drama to stop." I've residents contact me and say they are [1:10:56] disappointed in the behavior of other residents. I've had families in the [1:10:59] school district reach out and tell me they are confused and nervous and upset. [1:11:02] They want good schools and a great downtown. Putting fear into young [1:11:07] parents is not becoming of our village. I have heard threats of lawsuits and I [1:11:11] can tell you no one benefits from a lawsuit here. and residents certainly [1:11:16] don't want their tax dollars spent on a lawsuit. We have residents asserting [1:11:20] that there is lack of transparency from the village. Every single one of these [1:11:24] trustees will pick up the phone if you call and have questions. [1:11:29] Every single one of them will sit down with you and hear your concerns and [1:11:32] answer your questions one-on-one. If you've taken to keyboard warrioring, [1:11:36] posting on social media, making signs without having tried these one-on-one [1:11:39] communications. All right, I'll wrap it up. [1:11:48] » This is what we're talking about. >> Yes. Call them directly and have a [1:11:52] conversation. No solution is perfect. None of these trustees are suggesting [1:11:56] it's a perfect solution. [1:12:00] » This is a tool that's been leveraged by Kennallorth, Glen View, Highland Park, [1:12:04] Deerfield, Northbrook, Evston, Highwood to name just a few. [1:12:11] to the residents in this room tonight. Let's lead by example and assume good [1:12:14] intent. Be gracious and civil. Thank you. It's perfect example. [1:12:18] » Thank you. >> I agree. [1:12:22] Okay. Mary Lindblad and I'm going to um again Simon Babs. Next on the uh list is [1:12:30] Tom O'Donn, John Reynolds, Kim Orth, Betsy Cochar, Todd Berlinghoff. So, I [1:12:37] would like to try to get those people in the room um so we can move on. So, [1:12:43] please go ahead. >> Okay. Um [1:12:47] ever since the >> I'm sorry, ma'am. Can you [1:12:49] » Oh, Mary Lindlad 21 North Half Road. >> Thank you. [1:12:52] » Um ever since the um joint review board meeting, um I've thought that I I [1:13:00] absolutely am convinced that this the adoption of the TIFF ordinance is a done [1:13:05] deal. and that uh the only choice that those of us who oppose it would have if [1:13:12] we chose to would be to challenge the classification of the village as a [1:13:16] blighted area with the state of Illinois. Now that being said, I think [1:13:21] the tiff has been a distraction from the real issue that for me, which is the [1:13:27] redevelopment plan down from between the last four years we're or the years we're [1:13:32] considering or 2019 to 2024, COVID was in there. Nobody was doing [1:13:40] very well in those years. And um so I think that that using those [1:13:45] statistics is is a little bad. And then the [1:13:50] survey of the village that was taken that said they want walkability. Um [1:13:58] all those different vibrant I still don't know what vibrant means but uh it [1:14:02] seems to me to be overcrowded and busy. Um but in any event, so the vision plan [1:14:08] as I look at it has been lost in in the all the tiff dust and I I really am [1:14:16] worried about the vision plan. I mean I hope that whoever buys the shell [1:14:22] station, which I know is targeted, realizes it's contaminated and they're [1:14:27] going to have to spend money to clean it up. Um, and for I can't I can't imagine [1:14:35] the hotel on the corner. I that's not something I would would particularly [1:14:39] want, but I I just don't want the fact of the tiff to take away from the [1:14:44] changes that would be made in this village. And look, it it covers the [1:14:47] entire village center. And I'm thinking of all my small businesses that I use [1:14:53] and I enjoy. and I see the pictures of the multi-story, multi-use buildings and [1:14:59] I can't I can barely imagine them in this small area and so I'm just saying [1:15:05] that uh let's get past the tiff and let's start worrying about the [1:15:09] redevelopment. Thank you. >> Thank you. [1:15:13] » Next, Madam Chair, can I just uh ask that maybe the subsequent speakers give [1:15:17] the speaker a little bit of space? I know there's a lot of people here, but I [1:15:21] think the speakers probably want a little bit of space. [1:15:24] Thank you. Okay. >> Simon Babs, 385 Meadow Brook Drive. My [1:15:29] wife and I moved to Northville from England with our son. Sue and I have [1:15:33] lived here for over 27 years. We are US citizens. We all owe a debt of gratitude [1:15:39] to those who as trustees or in lower profile roles have served our community [1:15:43] during that period. Northfield is not a large community. The 2020 census counted [1:15:49] just over 5,700 people. That number of course includes children and also many [1:15:55] adults who for one reason or another do not give much attention to village [1:16:00] matters. How many adult residents I wonder are [1:16:04] even aware of the petition at change.org that requests that if the village board [1:16:10] considers that the proposed tiff would be good for Northfield then that [1:16:14] proposal should be put to a referendum. [1:16:22] I don't know, of course, but I'd be surprised if even 2,000 residents were [1:16:28] aware of the petition. Yet, of those 2,000, say, over 56% have signed the [1:16:35] petition seeking a referendum. In the last 27 years, I've seen many [1:16:40] issues put to a referendum in our village. Yet none that I recall involves [1:16:45] as large a fraction of the land area of our village, nor such a large amount of [1:16:50] prospective tax revenues, nor such an extended time period as the proposed [1:16:56] tiff. If you were a current trustee and made [1:17:00] favoring a tiff part of your pitch to voters when you last stood for election, [1:17:04] would you please raise your hand? >> I see no hands raised. [1:17:10] » Hear your question, sir. >> Oh, sorry. If you were a current trustee [1:17:14] and made favoring a tiff part of your pitch to voters when you last stood for [1:17:20] election, would you please raise your hand? [1:17:26] I see no hands raised. The situation then is this. The tiff is an unusually [1:17:33] significant proposal. The board has no explicit electoral [1:17:37] mandate for it and what is in all probability a majority of those aware of [1:17:44] aware of a petition calling for a referendum chose to sign it. [1:17:49] Trustees, if after further deliberation and [1:17:53] despite the recent joint board joint review board vote, you favor a tiff, [1:17:59] please put it to a referendum. If you enact a TIFF without a [1:18:04] referendum, then you would, I fear, be failing in your democratic duty to the [1:18:09] residents of this village. We, the people, expect better of you than that. [1:18:19] Um, the next I'm the ne Well, you can go ahead. John Reynolds is next, but Kim, [1:18:26] you're after that, so please. Kumor, 1655 Orchard Lane. Um, first I'd [1:18:34] like to address something that was just talked about with civility. I've never [1:18:39] mentioned this before, but I'll go there now. About a year and a half ago, when [1:18:44] the election took place, there were people going doortodoor saying that my [1:18:48] husband had dropped out of the election because he was severely ill and they had [1:18:52] no choice but to vote for Tracy. So when you want to talk about civility, [1:18:59] both sides are guilty of that. I want to mention that I hadn't really [1:19:03] engaged before this board on this tiff because I never imagined that anyone [1:19:07] would ever be in favor of a tiff to bring vitality to Northfield. We have [1:19:12] vitality currently. Ask the business owners. At the August 4th caucus [1:19:16] meeting, President Mendrich, you were asked if you had any evidence that the [1:19:20] Mariano's property was in need of a of remediation. You have spoken endlessly [1:19:25] about that very need. Your answer was no. Multiple nos. You have not seen any [1:19:31] evidence that there is need for remediation. Do you still stand by that [1:19:35] statement or do you now have documentation or some substantiation of [1:19:40] your fact that Marianos needs remediation and we need a tiff to assist [1:19:45] in that process? Did Dominics need remediation? Did Marianos need [1:19:50] remediation? Do you still stand by your word, without a tiff, we can't have a [1:19:54] grocery store? My second statement is one that refers to your comment just [1:19:59] today in the village email that was sent out. You said, and I quote, "This [1:20:03] included a great conversation last Thursday hosted by a Northfield family [1:20:08] where school board members were in attendance with community members asking [1:20:12] sharp, thoughtful questions. This kind of in-person dialogue is what Northfield [1:20:17] does best. we talk through concerns and vigorously protect those things that [1:20:21] make Northfield special." I would disagree with a portion of that [1:20:26] statement regarding dialogue. I believe that as a village president, in my [1:20:30] opinion, there should only be one platform for messaging where you [1:20:34] disseminate information to the residents, maybe an official village [1:20:38] website. having numerous one-offs, wine and tiffs, coffee or tea meetings at [1:20:43] private residences or associations where you present your personal views on the [1:20:48] tiff without anyone in attendance to fact check your statements isn't really [1:20:52] best practice. How do these private meetings benefit the village as a whole? [1:20:57] If you are interested in having healthy dialogue, why haven't you organized a [1:21:01] meeting outside of this one with residents who live directly outside the [1:21:06] tiff area who would be the most impacted by a tiff district? I see your practice [1:21:11] as a measure attempting to merely convince or sell people that your vision [1:21:15] of this tiff is the only vision. Thank you, [1:21:25] John Reynolds. Yes, >> that's me. [1:21:28] » Donahghue, Betsy, Coachar, >> Todd Merling, Hoff. [1:21:33] » Okay, so I'm John Reynolds. I'm in Dickens in Northfield. And [1:21:38] my name is John Reynolds. I'm in uh I'm in Northfield and I'm on Dickens Street. [1:21:45] So, Madame President, um I'm holding up your campaign mailer. I got [1:21:50] » Sorry. >> Sorry. I'm keeping the time, too. Excuse [1:21:53] me. [1:21:58] You have a little bit more time than that. Honest. [1:22:02] » This is my first meeting. I like city government. That sounds great. Great. [1:22:05] » All right. Okay. We're killing it, aren't we? Hang on one second here. [1:22:09] » Everybody have their phone on mute. Just make sure. [1:22:11] » All right. Got it. >> We're all set. Fantastic. So, I'm [1:22:14] holding up your your your campaign that I'm assuming you wrote you're familiar [1:22:18] with. Um it said you stand for common sense leadership, transparency, and [1:22:23] accountability. I have two questions. My first question is granted to the the uh [1:22:29] proposal that was done that was mentioned today. I really appreciate the [1:22:32] FAQs and that that speaks to the idea of uh how is this accountable for the [1:22:37] majority of Northfield residents who oppose this tiff continuing to be pushed [1:22:41] forward. The kind of people have spoken uh their concerns deserve to be heard [1:22:46] and not just kind of set aside. Uh and transparency means more than saying the [1:22:51] word. It means full disclosure. The public serves to know who benefits, who [1:22:56] takes the risks, and why should taxpayers help finance private [1:23:00] development. There's one more step I'd like to council consider uh our sister [1:23:06] community, Wana. I've spoken to many of the elected officials there and they [1:23:10] actually uh uh upon election they receive they have to go through a course [1:23:15] where they kind of sign agreements for their uh as far as uh uh what their what [1:23:20] disclosure are, ethics and whatnot. Nadesh Northfield to consider adopting a [1:23:23] civil requirement as part of the governance. Uh it's kind of simple. It [1:23:27] puts all your commitments or in common writing and disclose them to the public. [1:23:34] Uh it it kind of makes them easy to see and it holds elected officials [1:23:39] accountable to them. Um, if we ask residents to trust us, you the committee [1:23:45] with our tax dollars, then only the city government must earn that trust with [1:23:49] transparency, disclosure, and accountability. This sounds like common [1:23:53] sense to me. That's all I have. >> Thank you. [1:24:05] » Good evening. My name is Betsy Coachfire, address 187 Zachary. Until [1:24:10] today, I have not spoken regarding the upcoming tiff vote. My husband and I [1:24:15] moved here 32 years ago. We had not yet started a family, but we were thinking [1:24:19] about it, and the number one priority on our list of places to live was the [1:24:24] quality of the schools. We also wanted a small town Mayberry feel. Northfield had [1:24:29] both. Our children attended all of the Northfield District schools and have [1:24:34] fledged the nest successfully in part thanks to the great school system. I'm [1:24:39] concerned that the tiff I'm concerned about the tiff purs proposal. I want [1:24:44] Northfield to thrive and I am seeing that happen. Many new families with [1:24:49] small children have made their home in Northfield. I think as more families [1:24:54] move here, this will usher in a transition to a vibrant downtown [1:24:58] community without a tiff. Of course, everyone would like a new, larger [1:25:02] library and a replacement for Marianos ASAP. Our surrounding towns all have new [1:25:08] or rehab libraries and good grocery stores. We have access to those [1:25:12] amenities within 5 to 10 minute within a 5 to 10 minute drive. Here are some of [1:25:17] my concerns about the tiff. Do residents realize that their real estate taxes [1:25:21] will increase to cover the school cost if the tiff passes? Do they realize [1:25:26] Northfield schools may struggle to accommodate the potentially large influx [1:25:30] of students if property taxes are diverted to the tiff and not directly to [1:25:35] the schools? Do they understand that the tiff will likely be in place for 23 [1:25:39] years and the village board decides where the tiff money goes? Do residents [1:25:44] comprehend that our school district maintain maintains a a bun sorry fund [1:25:48] balance or rainy day fund to cover funding gaps that arise from late [1:25:54] property tax distributions and that the fund may have to instead cover increased [1:25:59] school expenses not covered by the tiff among other items. The school fund [1:26:04] balance assures that teachers and staff will continue to be paid on time during [1:26:10] the property tax distribution delays. Would the district attra attract the [1:26:14] caliber of students and teachers and staff if they weren't guaranteed on time [1:26:20] payments in order to cover their personal expenses? How will the tiff [1:26:25] affect the ability of residents, especially older residents, to sell [1:26:29] their houses? Will the tiff reduce the marketability of the housing here? In [1:26:34] conclusion, I truly believe that Northfield's downtown will improve [1:26:37] without a tiff. Why is there such a rush on the proposal when this is a complex [1:26:42] issue that will affect Northfield for the next 23 years and beyond? I'm hoping [1:26:47] that the board will consider a referendum in November to allow the [1:26:51] village residents to comprehend exactly how a tiff will affect the future of [1:26:56] Mayberry. Thank you for your time. Sure. >> Thank you. [1:27:03] Tom O'Donahue, Todd Berlinghoff, Sue Kelly, Barnaby Dingis, Kathy [1:27:09] Esesterbrook, Terry Dason. Okay, that's enough. If all of those [1:27:15] people can be close by, Tom, please go ahead, [1:27:19] introduce yourself. Sorry. >> Good evening, everyone. My name is Tom [1:27:23] O'Donnary [1:27:26] in Northfield. I have been a resident of Northfield since 2003. I have lived in [1:27:32] four homes inside of Northfield. So, I've experienced tax bills in various [1:27:37] ways. My uh attempt tonight is this is the third time I've spoken before some [1:27:42] of you. Uh my concern is as a financial consultant in the turnaround world is [1:27:47] that the open-ended nature of the ordinance as I have read it [1:27:53] uh supported by something called the vision 2040 [1:27:57] which at the time my son was one of the members of that committee depended on a [1:28:02] sales tax that was generated by a growing food store called Marianos. [1:28:07] So my suggestion to all of you, since you're trying to pass a TIFF based on a [1:28:13] plan that was based on a vibrant grocery store and many other things going on in [1:28:18] 2015, it's time to reassess the plan. At this point in time, 2040 seems to be, as [1:28:25] you read, the preamble in the TIFF ordinance is the justification for the [1:28:29] TIFF ordinance. Is the underlying reason still the same [1:28:33] today in 2026? I don't think so. And I'm concerned in [1:28:40] passing it, it's going to be one of those cases where we're going to pass it [1:28:44] and figure it out later. I think that is probably poor planning [1:28:49] in most homes, in most businesses, and hopefully in the village of Northfield. [1:28:56] Thank you all for listening to us this evening. And one other piece of history, [1:29:00] I loved going through that that poster board in the lodge and the feistiness of [1:29:06] the Northfield people when they got the name Wobbon and said the heck with this. [1:29:11] We're going back to Northfield. So you still have the feistiness a 100 years [1:29:16] later. Thank you. [1:29:29] Good evening. My name is Todd Berlinghoff. I live at [1:29:33] one landmark in Northfield. Emily and I and our three children have lived in [1:29:37] Northfield since 1995 in three different houses, not four. [1:29:42] Located in three different parts of town. All our kids graduated from [1:29:46] Middlefork, Sunset Ridge, and New Trier. My wife was the president of the PTO. [1:29:51] I've served 10 years on Northfield's architecture commission and 12 years on [1:29:55] the planning and zoning commission. We love Northfield. [1:29:59] With nearly four decades of real estate development, I have built I've been [1:30:02] fortunate to build over 4 million square feet of retail space for prominent [1:30:06] companies such as Jewel, Dominic's, Marianos, Whole Foods, Aldi, Costco, [1:30:11] Walmart, and Heinens. Locally, Willow Festival in North Brook [1:30:16] stands as one of these properties. My experience also includes developing more [1:30:20] than 1,000 multif family apartments as well as class A office and medical [1:30:24] office space throughout the Chicagoland area. As I prepared these remarks for [1:30:28] tonight, I considered addressing the misinformation surrounding TIFF, but I [1:30:32] believe the board is best positioned to clarify these points. My hope is [1:30:36] everyone here will be open to facts rather than hyperbole. [1:30:40] Yet, I do have one comment. Having participated in numerous tiff deals over [1:30:44] the years, I have observed that school boards never support them as their [1:30:48] primary responsibility is to maximize revenue for their constituency. My focus [1:30:53] tonight is on what matters most to me, how Norfolk can attract investors like [1:30:57] myself. We often express a desire for a more [1:31:00] walkable community with a variety of restaurants, shops, and services. [1:31:04] However, such progress requires more than wishful thinking. Small businesses [1:31:09] need affordable infrastructure and a steady customer base. By implementing [1:31:13] proper zoning and offering financial support for downtown re residential [1:31:17] development, Northfield can encourage small businesses to flourish. [1:31:21] Communities that welcome development and provide incentives are the ones poised [1:31:24] for growth and continue relevance. One major challenge in Cook County is [1:31:29] the exceptionally high property taxes, making new construction nearly [1:31:33] impossible without some form of village tiff support. In fact, every apartment [1:31:37] development we've completed in the past 5 years has relied on TIFF assistance [1:31:41] from a village. Northfield must have tiff as a tool to achieve its downtown [1:31:45] redevelopment goals. Without it, progress will stall. Redeveloping the [1:31:50] Mariana's grocery store may be possible without TIF. If medical institutions [1:31:54] like Northwestern or the University of Chicago Medicine are acceptable tenants, [1:31:59] however, if the goal is to attract retail or another grocery store, tiff [1:32:03] support will be necessary. Otherwise, the property could remain vacant for [1:32:06] years, diminishing both its value and tax base. The longer it takes to secure [1:32:11] a tenant, the greater the risk that the owner will demolish the building to [1:32:15] lower their tax burden even more. A scenario no one wants. [1:32:20] Like many in this room, I enjoyed our 100th year celebration on Saturday. [1:32:24] There was a sense of symmetry between our current situation and the challenges [1:32:29] faced a century ago. History shows that Northfield's transformation from pagan [1:32:33] and radish farming to modern suburbs was marked by tough decisions and [1:32:38] significant change. Today we celebrate our centennial with aging [1:32:42] infrastructure, water and sewer mains in need of replacement and a downtown [1:32:45] retail spaces that are becoming obsolete. [1:32:48] I want the board to know that I support tiff and many residents who are not [1:32:52] present tonight do as well. Conversations with my neighbors during [1:32:55] the celebration revealed substantial support for the tiff. Similar to the [1:33:00] debate over widening Willow Road, this issue has stirred strong emotions. [1:33:03] Change is difficult, especially when there is vocal opposition. While it may [1:33:08] be easy to reject TIFF, I urge the board to make the decision that best serves [1:33:12] our community by supporting TIFF, paving the way for an exciting future for [1:33:16] Northfield. Thank you. >> Thank you, Sue. Kelly, uh, Barnaby [1:33:21] Dinges, Kathy Esesterbrook, Terry Dason, Jeff [1:33:28] Keading, Jeff Kading, I think I got that right. William gets Ariel Hoer. Please, [1:33:35] Sue, go ahead. >> Good evening. My name is Sue Kelly, 1642 [1:33:38] Orchard Lane. I am speaking tonight to place a formal objection on the record [1:33:43] regarding concerning compliance with Illinois law regarding TIFF districts [1:33:47] and the public hearing notice requirements of 65 ILCS511-74.4-6A. [1:33:57] The statute provides that notice of the public hearing shall be given by mailing [1:34:01] notice by certified mail to the person or persons in whose name the general [1:34:06] taxes for the preceding year were paid on each lot, block, tract, or parcel of [1:34:12] land within the proposed redevelopment project area and that the notice must be [1:34:17] mailed not less than 10 days prior to the public hearing. I personally [1:34:22] communicated with commercial property owners whose properties are located [1:34:25] inside the proposed tiff area. I have been informed by such owners that to the [1:34:30] best of their knowledge they did not receive certified mail notice from the [1:34:34] village concerning this public hearing. These individual property owners may not [1:34:38] wish to be identified publicly tonight. I am therefore not asking the board to [1:34:42] simply take my word for it. It is also possible that mail can be lost or [1:34:47] overlooked. But I am asking the village to establish on the record whether it [1:34:52] complied with the statutory mailing requirement. First, I request proof of [1:34:56] compliance. Will the village attorney or appropriate village staff state on the [1:35:01] record whether the village deposited the required notices in the United States [1:35:06] mail by certified mail to the persons identified by the statute for every lot, [1:35:12] block, tract, or parcel within the proposed redevelopment project area at [1:35:16] least 10 days before this public hearing? And does the village possess [1:35:22] the corresponding certified mail receipts, mailing records, or USPS [1:35:26] tracking documentation demonstrating that those notices were deposited. [1:35:32] Second, if the village cannot establish compliance with the statutory mailing [1:35:37] requirement, I request that this hearing be continued rather than closed so that [1:35:42] the village can determine whether any required notices were omitted and if [1:35:47] necessary provide the notice required by state law. I'm making this comment for [1:35:52] the purpose of assuring that the statutory notice requirements are [1:35:56] followed before this process proceeds further. Thank you. [1:36:11] Good evening, Northfield. Uh, Barnaby Dinges, 421 Chapel Hill Lane. Uh, I [1:36:17] think we begin Northfield's next hundred years tonight. And I hope we can capture [1:36:22] some of that karma from the other night. Uh, I come to you tonight as a former [1:36:26] school teacher, started my career 40 years ago, Harvard St. George on the [1:36:31] south side, Francis Parker on the north side, Columbia College downtown Chicago, [1:36:35] Depal University. And uh I took my role as an educator seriously and I had two [1:36:42] things in mind as a teacher. Uh the big picture, always encourage my [1:36:47] students to look at the big picture. You can always narrow it later. And uh be a [1:36:52] role model. Everything you say and do uh can affect your students. And uh that [1:36:57] gets me to talking about the role of our school boards in this whole debate that [1:37:02] we've been having. Um and I guess I'll express my disappointment in how that's [1:37:07] gone. I also pay my wife and I $1,200 a month. I call it paying tuition to our [1:37:14] schools. Uh $1,200. And I've never questioned that. I've always felt good [1:37:19] about that. I live right between the schools in our community. Spent a lot of [1:37:22] time with the schools. um consider myself a big supporter of [1:37:27] the schools, but I also support our downtown. And when when the schools talk [1:37:33] about uh the community, they say we support a vibrant downtown, and then the [1:37:38] discussion ends there. They never say another word. And what was interesting [1:37:42] to me is six months ago when you went to the schools with this idea of a tiff, [1:37:47] instead of inviting the parents in to ask what they think or the community in [1:37:51] or to refer to the just completed Hapro report which included 900 responses from [1:37:57] our residents, 85% whom said they wanted an improved downtown and include [1:38:02] hundreds of testimonials from our residents, young parents who moved to [1:38:07] town talking about what they wanted in our downtown because the education of [1:38:11] their children doesn't just end in the classroom. It ends uh includes them [1:38:15] going downtown and hanging out as they do in some of the towns around us. So, [1:38:20] we can have great schools and a great downtown. Since I've been in this town [1:38:25] for 13 years, we've had two referenda for our schools. I voted for them. I [1:38:29] supported them. So, this idea that somehow we're going to stop supporting [1:38:33] our schools and we're going to somehow get distracted, I think is a a real red [1:38:40] herring and a and a false argument and and I'm personally offended by it. So, [1:38:45] when the school board met to discuss the TIFF proposal, six representatives very [1:38:49] quickly said, "We oppose it." Now, this board is grappling with this issue, and [1:38:54] I guarantee you if I asked each one of you, you would have a subtle distinct [1:38:59] difference, and you could argue with each other on it. But our school board [1:39:02] didn't do that. And then when the joint review board met, which was already [1:39:07] stacked with schoolboard representatives and had a chance to have a community [1:39:11] member, Debbie Papus, who served as the head of the school board, [1:39:17] was one of their people. she was denied the ability to serve on that committee. [1:39:22] So, they added another person from the school board. I don't think that served [1:39:26] the community as well. And then when we get sent something like this in the mail [1:39:33] and it doesn't include the fact that [1:39:38] negotiations already happening, I consider that disingenuous. And I I have [1:39:43] talked to dozens of people who are afraid to come here and say what they [1:39:47] think about TIF because they're neighbors of schoolboard people and uh [1:39:52] they have been threatened. I've heard people come up here and threaten you [1:39:56] with lawsuits and lose the next election. And I don't think we want to [1:40:00] live in a community where people are afraid to come out and ask questions and [1:40:05] share their thoughts. So I commend you for the hard work you're doing. you're [1:40:09] doing it without the support that you should be getting from some parts of our [1:40:13] community and I will support that effort. Thank you. [1:40:17] » Thank you, >> Kathy Esesterbrook. [1:40:20] Terry, then you're next. Jeff, William, Ariel, then Lauren Ruger, [1:40:29] um Eileene Isac's. [1:40:34] Go ahead. >> I'm Kathy Esesterbrook, 1620 Mount [1:40:36] Pleasant. I'm not necessarily against the tiff. I'm against the size of the [1:40:41] tiff district and the fact that it spans 23 years. The Mariano property is a [1:40:48] major issue for sure. However, the owner paid too much for the property, so is [1:40:52] asking for relief. I don't feel our resident should be penalized for his [1:40:56] poor business decision. I'm I'm concerned that SB Freeman's [1:41:01] figures include the year 2020. Obviously, it's going to skew those [1:41:06] figures significantly. [1:41:10] Um, we reszone the North Corridor in late 2025, so let's let the resoning [1:41:15] take hold before we put another option on top of it. [1:41:20] I believe there are various ways to increase our revenues, adding the 1% [1:41:24] sales tax, increasing our vehicle stickers, to name two. How much [1:41:29] additional revenues are we receiving from our car dealerships since sales [1:41:35] have been have increased? That must help. Our town is thriving and sweet. [1:41:40] Please keep it that way. [1:41:48] Oop. Oh, I lost it. Um there was that um on [1:41:52] the darn it on the um back wall of the south the south wall in [1:42:00] the lustic lodge there was a wonderful quote saying how sweet our it was from [1:42:05] 19 76 years ago saying how sweet our village was and let's keep it that way [1:42:11] we deserve it. Thank you, Terry. [1:42:22] Good evening, President Mendrich, Manager Brennan, and the members of the [1:42:27] board of trustees. Thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening. I am [1:42:31] Terry Dason, president of the Waneka Northfield Gleno Chamber of Commerce. [1:42:36] Before addressing the tiff, I would like to congratulate the village and everyone [1:42:41] involved in Northfield's 100th birthday celebration. Clarkson Park was filled [1:42:46] with residents, families, and friends of all ages. The activities, music, local [1:42:52] food, and wonderful fireworks showcased Northfield at its very best. It was [1:42:58] truly a celebration of community and a job very well done. Tonight, I am [1:43:03] speaking on behalf of the many independent and locallyowned businesses [1:43:08] that are important to our community. The chamber understands the purpose of a tax [1:43:14] increment financing. When used thoughtfully, a tiff can encourage [1:43:18] investment, improve [1:43:23] infrastructure, and create opportunities for economic development. We want [1:43:29] Northfield to grow, remain competitive, and continue to thrive. At the same [1:43:35] time, I ask that you cons, as you consider redevelopment, you also [1:43:40] consider the people behind the storefronts. Many of our local [1:43:44] businesses have invested in Northfield for years. They employ people, serve our [1:43:49] residents, support our schools and organizations, contribute to community [1:43:54] events, and help create the character of this village. If redevelopment [1:43:59] ultimately affects some of these businesses, I believe the time to begin [1:44:03] planning for them is now, not when a lease expires or a business suddenly [1:44:08] learns it needs to relocate. Can we identify potential spaces within [1:44:14] Northfield before they are needed? Can we develop a strategy to assist [1:44:19] businesses that may be displaced? Can the village, the chamber, and property [1:44:25] owners and businesses work together to identify relocation opportunities within [1:44:30] Northfield? And most importantly, can retaining our existing local businesses [1:44:36] become one of the stated goals of redevelopment? [1:44:40] Once a small business is forced to leave a community, there's no guarantee it [1:44:44] will return. The chamber is not asking Northfield to choose between [1:44:48] redevelopment and its existing businesses. We believe that Northfield [1:44:53] can and should have both. We can welcome new investment and new businesses while [1:44:59] valuing the entrepreneurs have already invested in the community. Economic [1:45:04] development should not simply be about what we build next. It should also be [1:45:09] about preserving what we what is already working and helping our existing [1:45:14] businesses succeed through periods of change. As Northfield begins its next [1:45:19] hundred years, we have an opportunity to approach redevelopment thoughtfully, [1:45:24] creating new possibilities while protecting the businesses and [1:45:28] relationships that already make Northfield a special place to live, [1:45:32] workshop, and gather. Thank you. [1:45:46] Jeff Keading is next on my list. [1:45:55] Good evening. Jeff Keading, 54 Wagner Road. [1:46:00] My wife and I bought up in Northfield 30 years ago of raising our kids here [1:46:04] because of the size of the community and the village that it was. I'm opposed to [1:46:08] any large tiff program, period. Uh I think you're going to destroy our [1:46:13] village with that. And I believe that uh the way we first moved in here was [1:46:18] because of the size of the village and the community we came from. A lot of the [1:46:23] people I spoke against the tiff, I agree with a lot of the stuff that they said [1:46:26] tonight and I'll make it short. Thank you, [1:46:35] » William Gats. [1:46:43] I hope I pronounced that. Is that what it is? [1:46:46] » Sites. >> Boy. Okay. Sorry. Good of you to know [1:46:51] what I was saying. >> Well, that's okay, Madam President. [1:46:53] Thank you very much. Good evening. Um, I was My name is William Sites. I'm an [1:46:58] attorney. My office is in Northbrook. Uh, attorney Jones knows me from [1:47:04] Gleniew. Um so uh I originally um uh got involved in this issue when I was asked [1:47:13] how Glen View's tiff worked out for uh district 34. It didn't and I explained [1:47:19] how district 34 ended up getting short and and how it got short. So I explained [1:47:25] that uh but otherwise I wasn't planning on speaking here tonight. I did ask um I [1:47:31] did speak to two tenants and two property owners in this district and [1:47:36] none of them none of them felt comfortable authorizing me to to express [1:47:41] uh with their name but they they didn't feel that um you know putting their name [1:47:48] out there and explaining why they they didn't feel the tiff was in their in [1:47:53] their interest they didn't feel comfortable so it didn't have their name [1:47:56] but as it turns out Um, and I'm going to give each one of you a copy since, uh, [1:48:01] attorney Jones says you're not taking a vote. Um, you know, I I've done this [1:48:06] myself as an attorney. Um, some somebody put out a website called Unlock [1:48:10] Norfield, and I did when I represented a coal uh, a company that had coal plants. [1:48:15] I did this myself. Um, and you know, uh, on these tiffs, you know, the I don't I [1:48:21] don't think it's eligible. I don't think it meets the qualifications. I don't [1:48:24] think if you do a uh impact agreement, the schools are going to be held uh [1:48:29] whole, but um I think that you you need to make sure that you're you're talking [1:48:34] the same language, you're talking the same facts and you make sure that the [1:48:39] the the uh information you're getting is [1:48:43] accurate facts. and what what and what you have here is you know something that [1:48:49] some you know college kid put together and you know I mean that's that doesn't [1:48:55] serve you any in in making a decision this is a very difficult decision um you [1:49:00] know and one of the things that says it doesn't raise taxes if if if you look at [1:49:04] this uh Freriedman report you know on the um back part of the report and you [1:49:10] know any developer is going to love tiffs because you know it's got a [1:49:13] proposed budget for various expenses is, you know, I I represent developers. So, [1:49:17] you know, everybody's, you know, everybody wants to do development deals, [1:49:20] but there's other ways of doing it other than the tiffs as well. So, you know, [1:49:23] I'm I I'm going to leave you copies of of these documents for you take a look [1:49:27] at them if you'd like. But, you know, I I think that it's very important that [1:49:31] you have the right information to make a to make a sound decision. And you know, [1:49:38] other than that, you know, I think that, you know, it's it's, you know, u I'm [1:49:42] dealing with a lot of problems with with Glen View that I would that I would say, [1:49:46] you know, one of the problems I'm having with Glen View that as attorney Jones [1:49:49] perhaps knows is in Glen View um a lot of money from from the from the former [1:49:56] TIFF when they sold land sales um went into its big fund called the permanent [1:50:01] fund. And that permanent fund is now being spent on restaurants to quote [1:50:05] unquote revitalize downtown Glen View that built a five-story uh uh apartment [1:50:10] building in the center of downtown Glen View that I spent six years uh suing on [1:50:14] Glen View. Um and the problem with all this money is it ends up going to LLC's [1:50:21] where the people coming to public meetings represent the LLC's, they're [1:50:25] not the real people getting the money. The real people getting the money are [1:50:28] wealthy people. So you you need to make certain if you're doing deals that the [1:50:33] people who are actually getting the money, you know who who's actually [1:50:36] getting the money. So anyway, I appreciate your time. I probably went [1:50:40] over the three minutes. Your your uh contemporary in Glen Gy would cut me off [1:50:44] after two and a half minutes. So I appreciate your time. Um but uh thank [1:50:48] you very much. >> Thank you. [1:50:55] Um, Ariel Hoffer, Lauren Ruger, Eileen Issacs, [1:51:01] Barb Silva, Jordan Shackleford, Holt, Ziggler. [1:51:07] Just so everybody started waiting in the weeks. Go ahead. [1:51:10] » Ariel Hoer, resident at 1554 Willow and business owner at 300 Hap Road. Many [1:51:16] residents, business owners, taxing bodies, and interesting parties have [1:51:19] spoken over the last few months about concerns relating to TIFF eligibility as [1:51:23] well as the effect it will have on schools. I'll leave it to the others to [1:51:26] reiterate those important concerns tonight. I want to start by saying how [1:51:30] incredible our 100redyear celebration was this past Saturday. It reminded me [1:51:34] about what makes Northfield so special. Mom and pop vendors served a park full [1:51:38] of families, many of which had family members actually founded this town. We [1:51:43] did not have chain vendors and all main food vendors that participated are [1:51:47] located within the proposed TIFF boundaries. I believe this is something [1:51:50] of huge note. My concern is rooted in overdevelopment at the cost of the [1:51:55] vibrancy we currently display display. To establish a tiff area in a place [1:51:59] already populated by thriving businesses, most of which don't own [1:52:03] their space is to ask to change the landscape that makes us so special. [1:52:06] Should businesses face relocation to make way for the rise of condo towers, [1:52:11] they will fail. I have no doubt about this. This tip proposal, as outlined, [1:52:16] does not ensure a legacy of small business. Rather, it will help usher in [1:52:20] an era of big box chains with mom and pops left by the wayside. In fact, I [1:52:24] don't see any of the vendors from Saturday surviving in this unlocked [1:52:28] Northfield. As elected members of this board, it is your responsibility to [1:52:32] represent the interests of our of your constituents. How can you hear the [1:52:36] incredible amount of concerns from your villagers and still choose to blatantly [1:52:40] ignore them? If it is a matter of a budget crisis, then tell us though. [1:52:44] Thank you. [1:52:52] » Hi, uh Lauren Reager, 248 Wagner. Um I wanted to just stand up and say a few [1:52:59] words in support um for the proposed tiff. I um have lived in Northfield my [1:53:05] entire life. I grew up here attending Middlefork, Sunset Ridge, and New Trier. [1:53:10] I was a teacher assistant at Middlefork and now my two children attend [1:53:13] Middlefork as well. Um growing up in Northfield, there was a uh my favorite [1:53:18] place to go was TCBY. I think I funded it uh solely by myself. Um we would run [1:53:25] around the fountain um with my friends and enjoy the local establishments that [1:53:29] were there. Um and at TCB TCBY we would gather as families [1:53:36] after um dance recital, spring sings, winter sings, and families would gather [1:53:41] in line uh commune um and share stories that still uh stay with me today. We [1:53:48] have a great local um downtown. We have uh great resident uh great shops and uh [1:53:55] restaurants, but we're lacking the gathering place where families can go [1:53:58] and kids can safely ride their bikes. Uh currently I see a lot of them riding to [1:54:03] Walgreens and Starbucks, and I'm very concerned with their safety, especially [1:54:07] at the Walgreens or the Starbucks uh crossing zone. Um, I got involved or [1:54:13] leaned in more to this conversation um, over the last several months as I [1:54:17] started to see, like many Northfield residents, the yard signs um, popping up [1:54:22] more and more and I started to try to understand what the information was. And [1:54:27] as I went searching, I only found one side of the story. Um, and it's only [1:54:32] gotten louder. I haven't heard as much information up until recently with the [1:54:37] uh, various meetings and information that's been shared. Um and so I'm [1:54:42] encouraged by the um both sides now sharing information um together and in [1:54:48] different various formats. Um recently I had the um ability to join a [1:54:53] conversation where both the school board members and village board members were [1:54:57] having a conversation that was the most productive conversation I've heard in [1:55:01] this entire experience that I've been participating in which admittedly is [1:55:05] fairly limited. Um, but I've heard criticisms of these gatherings, which [1:55:09] disappoints me. Um, because it's the side of Northfield that I've known and [1:55:14] loved growing up here is small, local, uh, shared communication and [1:55:19] conversation, even if they disagree, of coming together, talking about things [1:55:24] that they agree or disagree, in a productive, calm, and rational way. Um, [1:55:30] I won't stand up here spouting the different data points of why I support [1:55:34] our schools, our local businesses, and the need for our downtown and Northfield [1:55:39] to thrive generally. I think you've done a nice job of sharing that information [1:55:43] with us. However, I do think we could do a better job of sharing with our [1:55:46] residents uh some of the information that I just learned here tonight. For [1:55:50] example, that there is a need to invest in Northfield and by doing nothing, we [1:55:55] won't accomplish anything. So, I do encourage residents to consider uh the [1:56:00] reasons why this is being proposed to um support Northfield's growth. Thank you, [1:56:07] » Eileene Isacs. [1:56:16] » Good evening and thank you for the opportunity. I had not expected to [1:56:20] speak, so I've been jotting notes as the meeting has gone on. I've lived here for [1:56:26] 41 years. Um I live in the old Calderini house for you old people that know. Um [1:56:33] the first reason, the first thing that I would like to raise is since you knew [1:56:37] that this was going to be such a white hot issue, since you knew that on both [1:56:41] sides there was going to be such a agitated participation, why we aren't in [1:56:46] a bigger space that could have accommodated everybody. I don't [1:56:49] understand. And I think that that casts a Paul on the whole conversation. [1:56:58] The second question I have is you are all elected representatives elected to [1:57:03] represent the interests of those who you represent. There's a very strong notion [1:57:08] out there that every one of you has already made up your mind except one in [1:57:12] favor of a tiff and that these are just dur kinds of meetings that you're having [1:57:17] and that none of you are in a position to change your mind that you've all set [1:57:22] your positions. This is very disheartening and makes it feel like we [1:57:26] are not involved in a democratic situation. [1:57:30] Um, my third concern is the legality of the entire enterprise. TIFFs were [1:57:37] designed to help blighted communities who were unable to attract commercial [1:57:42] development. This has never been the case in Northfield. This is an [1:57:46] embarrassment in of riches as the wealth of our community and the value of our [1:57:50] homes climb. It's an insult to those communities that really need TIFFs that [1:57:55] we should usurp that desperate mechanism for our own development. [1:58:01] Our village manager oversaw Kennallworth's tiffs and it's my [1:58:06] understanding that very little development occurred as a result in [1:58:09] Deerfield. They have a tiff and last week they had to pass a bond issue to [1:58:15] support the schools because the schools were short the funding that they needed. [1:58:19] At the terrific centennial celebration this weekend and it was terrific and [1:58:24] congratulations to you all on the amazing job you did. I learned that in [1:58:29] 1984 there were only 350 students enrolled in [1:58:34] our schools and that there was some consideration being given to closing the [1:58:39] schools and sending the children perhaps to a VOCA or something else. Of course, [1:58:43] enrolling my children there in 1985. Dr. Bullink didn't mention that to me, but [1:58:49] um it was of great concern. But the constituents then rose up, stood firm, [1:58:55] and look how the student body and our academic institutions have thrived. [1:59:01] I was proud to be a member of the 2040 committee. We were definitive and clear [1:59:06] that the schools could not be impacted in any way. Any way, not little bit, not [1:59:12] a lot, anyway. So why is this now any kind of an issue? The school board has [1:59:19] spoken that this would be a bad gesture. What is the rush? I yield to the other [1:59:24] person who spoke earlier tonight. This is an issue of such concern, it deserves [1:59:29] a referendum. Thank you, [1:59:40] Barb Silva, [1:59:45] Jordan Shackleford. [1:59:51] Um, hi, I'm Jordan Shackleford. I'm um a business owner of two businesses at 300 [1:59:58] South Hap Road. one being Shred415, which I've owned for 13 years, and the [2:00:04] other being Sweat Shack, which I opened last June. Um, I my husband's here, too, [2:00:10] in case I split up, but I was going to say, um, my issue is that, you know, I [2:00:16] employ somewhere around 40 to 60 individuals at my studios, be it [2:00:22] trainers, front desk, kid care, cleaning staff, as well as 60,000 [2:00:29] um unique visitors a year at both of my um studios. So I drive a lot of traffic [2:00:37] to the Northfield for shopping, for um engagement, for um just, you know, [2:00:44] lively and vibrant area. So I am just saying that I find, you know, with um [2:00:51] other business owners that I'm friends with and also are in my um building, we, [2:00:56] you know, we've done a really good job. 300 South HAB is fully I think fully v [2:01:01] or fully >> what? [2:01:03] » No, but fully. >> Yeah, [2:01:05] » sorry. It's not it's not blighted. Um in our opinion and we welcome you guys to [2:01:09] come visit and have an open house to to to assess what that it's not blighted. [2:01:15] Um I would also say that I just feel um I don't envy your guys' position. We [2:01:21] love Northfield. We've been here, as Jordan said, since 2013. reinvested in [2:01:25] Northfield last year, last summer, um, and and went through all the process. [2:01:30] Um, and I feel like the business owners in this community are part of this blast [2:01:35] area and and re with the redevelopment. I understand it. I don't believe that [2:01:40] 300 and 310 South Hap Road was part of the the 20 uh 2040 plan. It's now part [2:01:47] of this redevelopment uh redistricing process. And I just feel like, you know, [2:01:52] consideration should be given um for, you know, that this is not a blighted [2:01:57] building and it's not a blighted community for sure. Um as well um I [2:02:03] recognize that some of the things that were in there. I I I find it hard to [2:02:07] believe that in that report um were a lot of instances for a lot of [2:02:12] infrastructure and a lot of things with buildings. And we were just here two [2:02:15] months ago whether you guys authorized a brand new business in at 300 South Hap [2:02:20] Road where somebody was in investing in the community and there was no [2:02:24] consideration given or even a heads up that hey you got you might be going into [2:02:28] a building that we deem being deemed to be blighted. I think that's a little [2:02:32] disingenuous. >> Thank you. [2:02:36] » Thank you very much. [2:02:44] Holt. Holt, are you still here? There you are. Okay. Uh, the next on the list [2:02:49] is, uh, Yarn Sharon, it looks like to me. [2:02:54] I'm having trouble reading some of these names. Uh, Chris and Marky [2:03:00] from Children's Gift Outlet, Carol Richtol, [2:03:04] Anna Ladden perhaps. Okay. So anyway, Holt, [2:03:10] take it away. Thank you. >> Hello. Hello. My name is Holt Zidler. [2:03:14] I'm at 265 Somerfield Road in the evil Northbrook. [2:03:19] Uh, as some of you know, I'm on the school board of D29 and I'm currently [2:03:24] serving as president. So, I'm actually usually on the other side of this table [2:03:28] until I can appreciate uh your position. First of all, thank you for your [2:03:32] service. I think there is no greater impact to a whole community than locally [2:03:37] elected public service. There's nothing that beats it. Uh I want to make a few [2:03:42] quick points in a simple ask that's consistent with my peers in um nutrier. [2:03:47] First, I'd like to reiterate Peter Tos and Chris Johnson comments. There is [2:03:52] impact to schools. There is. We stand by our estimates and our [2:03:58] communications. In fact, we believe it is our duty to inform our community of [2:04:01] our concerns. I will say I'm encouraged by some of the dialogue um tonight [2:04:06] already. there may be a shift in messaging from there's no impact to the [2:04:09] math to we could work something out let's talk and hash out a deal that may [2:04:14] be possible second a key philosophy of mine is to always seek what is fair if [2:04:19] any fans of John RWS in the audience fairness principle in my board meetings [2:04:23] I've talked about timing and messaging concerns I think it's fair to insist on [2:04:27] truthful messaging and I think it's fair to insist on timing to not feel rushed [2:04:32] for a magnitude of this size uh and so that's the Third point and the ask. So [2:04:37] I'd ask this village board uh just like my colleagues to consider delaying the [2:04:42] vote on a tiff maybe for a long time or permanently but at least until an IGA is [2:04:47] in place that makes schools whole. I believe it's possible and fair. Thank [2:04:51] you. >> Thank you. [2:04:59] » Hello uh dear toes of the village. Uh my name is Yav Shaon. I live in Glen View [2:05:05] in the Avoka 37 school district. [2:05:11] I am also a school board member but I'm speaking here as an affected taxpayer [2:05:16] and more importantly a neighbor. First I want to congratulate you for [2:05:21] your 100th uh anniversary of the village. [2:05:26] I understand the challenge posed by the vacant building specifically where [2:05:30] Mariana once stood. uh it is your duty and responsibility as the trustees to [2:05:36] find a solution that restores and revitalize that property and I share [2:05:40] that call. But I urge you not to proceed with the [2:05:44] tax increment financing district. You argue that a TIFF is the only [2:05:49] solution that avoids raising taxes. Yet a TIF does not create new money. that [2:05:57] $175 million would need to come from somewhere. [2:06:02] Uh as property values outside the TIF rises because of inflation, those [2:06:09] property owner will bear a larger share of the tax burden. School and other [2:06:14] taxing district may also face pressure to increase rates to fund additional [2:06:20] students and services generated by development inside the TIFF. And when [2:06:26] taxes rise, the residents will connect these increases to the decision you'll [2:06:31] be making next month. Worse, many of the people who will bear [2:06:36] those higher taxes have no vote on this board. They live outside the village [2:06:42] like me, but share the same school district and other taxing bodies. [2:06:49] The reason the TIF has a lesser impact on residents of the village versus other [2:06:56] options that you uh investigated is because you are forcing people outside [2:07:01] the village like myself to chip in. Uh that is not how good neighbors should [2:07:07] treat one another. Uh a commercial developer and that is [2:07:14] your goal. Uh the first thing they will be looking for is customers and likely [2:07:19] beyond just within the village. Al alienating neighbor neighboring [2:07:24] residents by shifting taxes into them is a poor way to build a lo loyal customer [2:07:32] base. Uh and finally a personal plea. Our [2:07:36] political system is under strained. Too often people feel that elected officials [2:07:43] make decisions without broad public support. [2:07:48] Um and it's clearly here that I don't know how what's the percentage but there [2:07:52] is a strong opposition to this tiff and the result of that is growing [2:07:58] frustration and declining trust in government. So I implore you uh do not [2:08:04] contribute to that trend. Please seek B public support before making a decision [2:08:10] this consequential. Thank you very much. [2:08:26] I'm going to talk a little slower and a little louder because I've noticed [2:08:29] that's been a problem and mind listening to some of the fine comments. I'm Marky [2:08:34] Geekas. I own the children's gift shop at 310 Hap Road, unit 128 in the [2:08:39] Northfield Village Center. I oppose the tax extremate financing proposal the [2:08:44] board is considering. I oppose the proposal because it not only will [2:08:48] completely destroy my business, it will also deprive Northfield and surrounding [2:08:52] communities of the valuable service that my store provides. To understand my [2:08:58] opposition, you must understand what the Children's Gift Shop is all about. I've [2:09:03] been in Northfield for 35 years. 10 years on Northfield Road and 25 in the [2:09:08] Northfield Village Center, my present location. We have been we have been [2:09:13] voted the best toy store on the Northshore multiple times in this [2:09:16] period. My mission for the past 35 years has been to ignite the imagination and a [2:09:23] sense of wonder in our children so they can discover themselves, their passion, [2:09:28] and their purpose. In fact, it is the power of play that [2:09:32] captivates all of us and allows us to be our truest selves. So, in this world of [2:09:38] speedy digital connections, how does an independent Northshore brickandmortar [2:09:43] business, in this case, children's gift shops, stay relevant? The first brick [2:09:48] brick, excuse me, the first brick in any brickandmortar store is, of course, the [2:09:52] selection it offers. On buying trips, whenever a manufacturer tells to me, [2:09:56] "Oh, this sells everywhere." I just roll my eyes. I cherrypick like crazy to [2:10:02] offer a curated collection from only trusted vendors with the highest [2:10:06] standards. After 35 years, I am well tuned into the tastes and needs of our [2:10:11] community. The choices I make are the learning tools that we offer to enrich [2:10:16] children's lives based on their needs and their parents' goals. The expertise [2:10:21] is irreplaceable. Unlike the big box stores, in addition to knowing our [2:10:25] customers, we don't have to commit to products a year in advance. We can [2:10:29] quickly adapt as markets change and new trends appear. Another brick is the [2:10:34] Northshore experience you all have learned to expect and enjoy. In our [2:10:40] case, this means expert product knowledge and our enthusiasm to match [2:10:44] the child's age and abilities to the perfect gift. Our economy depends on a [2:10:49] small locallyowned businesses that create jobs and play a central role in [2:10:54] keeping consumer dollars and our own communities. When you support us, it [2:10:59] allows me to employ eight plus local souls. Hire a local insurance agent, an [2:11:04] accountant, a printer, an IT guy, security customer security company, and [2:11:08] even a window washer. More bricks. It's a big risk to open any independent [2:11:13] business. It takes an enormous labor of love, courage, and that Midwest work [2:11:18] ethic. Again, more bricks. If you have been in our Bright Happy store, you have [2:11:23] my met my amazing staff who support sustain the children's gift shop and me [2:11:28] beyond measure. Their product knowledge and amazing stamina, oh boy, is the [2:11:32] mortar between the bricks and makes everything possible. [2:11:36] Finally, this is really important to me. It became painfully obvious during CO [2:11:41] that available spaces like our neighborhood stores, restaurants, parks, [2:11:45] groceries, libraries offer us personal community interactions to help us [2:11:50] reclaim balance outside of the digital world, enhancing the quality of life for [2:11:56] our families and the entire community. It is inconceivable that you would [2:12:00] destroy this valuable gift to the community with this ill-considered, [2:12:04] hastily assembled TIFF proposal. Thank you. [2:12:09] Can I sit down or stay up here with you? Can I sit? [2:12:15] » Hi, my name is Chris Geekus, excuse me. And I'm the chief disposal [2:12:22] officer at the uh >> children's gift shop, which means I take [2:12:26] out the trash every day. Um, I'm also a lawyer and I sent to I [2:12:33] think you and to your your council what is a legal memorandum in my presentation [2:12:39] is going to be substantially drier than what you heard earlier and from my wife. [2:12:46] Um, the first stop on this journey for you [2:12:51] is to determine whether or not the neighborhood that you're trying to [2:12:56] designate as a tiff area satisfies the eligibility requirements of the tax [2:13:04] incentive redevelopment act. And you're not going to be able to rely on [2:13:11] the report of your expert. And I have tried to outline in my memorandum to you [2:13:17] uh why that is uh to summarize it briefly. Generalized conclusions about [2:13:23] the area that you're dealing with and the properties that are there um are not [2:13:30] sufficient to support a determination of blight or conservation area which is a [2:13:37] little bit less. I think that of the four factors that Freriedman has [2:13:42] identified, two of them are not satisfied, one of them has to do with [2:13:47] deterioration and the other has to do with non-compliance with the current [2:13:51] code. I think you all remember probably that the village adopted the 2021 [2:13:58] building and fire codes and if I understand the logic of the Freriedman [2:14:02] report because all these buildings are substantially older than that they don't [2:14:08] uh satisfy the current code which I think is wrong as a matter of law [2:14:13] because the codes specifically provide that uh buildings that were compliant [2:14:20] with previous codes are grandfather bothered in they may be non-conforming [2:14:24] uses but they are permitted non and lawful non-conforming uses. So it is [2:14:30] wrong we think is a matter of law to conclude that they're non-compliant with [2:14:35] the existing code. And on the other factor that we think is not shown [2:14:40] deterioration. The case law that I have cited to you [2:14:45] that I've looked at and I hope that I'm right. This is not an area I practice [2:14:49] in. The case law is that routine wear and te and wear and tear of property [2:14:55] does not add up to deterioration. Perhaps there are vacancies, but the [2:15:00] market, the free market that we all adore, is essentially designed to solve [2:15:06] those problems. And even if it's going to take some time to do that, that does [2:15:11] not mean that the properties involved are deteriorated within the meaning of [2:15:18] the tax incentive act. So, I just have a couple of more thoughts and ding-dong. [2:15:25] Um, I think you sit here patiently and you [2:15:28] listen to everybody and I know you're taking every what they say quite [2:15:33] seriously. Um, and I know you're not going to respond to me to the points [2:15:38] that I've made or any of the other folks have made. But that's not going to work [2:15:42] in the court. The policy question, there are two prongs to this. One are the [2:15:47] policy questions. Is this a good idea? Is it a good idea to short the schools? [2:15:53] Are you shorting the schools? Is the plan uh being developed enough so that [2:15:59] they will be sufficiently protected? The policy question presented here by Mark [2:16:04] is are you going to destroy existing businesses? And you are. There's no [2:16:09] question about it. And is that a relevant consideration? [2:16:13] And that's all essentially within your discretion. What's not in your [2:16:17] discretion are the eligibility requirements. And you've got a learned [2:16:21] lawyer here on the on the board. You've got one of the preeminent municipal [2:16:27] council in the in the um in the state and they will be able to advise you. The [2:16:34] question that you have to ask yourself is this going to be defensible in court [2:16:40] and the generalized conclusions that are in the report that [2:16:45] I've seen of Freriedman are not sufficient to do it. Now, my last [2:16:50] thought is this. I sent you a preservation demand, and I hope you [2:16:55] didn't weren't too offended by it. The second to the last paragraph of it says [2:17:01] that I'm doing it because of the likelihood that this is going to end up [2:17:05] in litigation. That is sufficient of a justification for you to do an a uh [2:17:13] executive session non-public where you can talk to each other and hear from [2:17:19] your council which would be protected by the attorney client privilege anyway. So [2:17:25] be you'd be able to uh keep it confidential. And I don't mean secret, I [2:17:31] mean confidential. And the point of it is that it was allow [2:17:35] you to have the interchange amongst yourselves as to whether or not you can [2:17:40] defend it because that's where you're headed down to the daily center in the [2:17:46] city of Chicago. Thank you. [2:18:01] » Carol Ritchell. Yes, please. Anna Ladden, [2:18:06] Tanya Walt, >> sorry, [2:18:08] » Brad Rosett. Okay. [2:18:13] Uh, Carol Richel, 81 Hap, you are a tough act to follow. My god. Thank you. [2:18:20] Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Um, >> oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I always do [2:18:25] this. Okay. Um, Simon was one of the people who brought up a petition that [2:18:33] was raised to ask you to slow down and ask for a referendum. As of this moment, [2:18:39] I believe there are 1,126 signatures on that petition. [2:18:46] Truth is, you weren't slowing down. You haven't slowed down. a second petition [2:18:51] actually was started which specifically just let's see uh it's asking you [2:18:57] basically to stop stop this um so as of a few hours ago I can't read my own [2:19:02] writing there were um oh god 200 >> 54 [2:19:07] » thank you 254 signatures on that one okay I'm rambling here okay so I'm [2:19:13] piggybacking on what Sam Simon brought up what I believe Terry brought up as [2:19:18] far we have asked you for a referendum and actually at one of the meetings when [2:19:24] Tracy you were specifically asked would you consider it what you said was no [2:19:30] essentially because it would slow down the process which kind of speaks to [2:19:34] we've made up our minds don't confuse us with the facts I'm sorry to be offensive [2:19:40] if I am offensive and the other thing you know [2:19:46] I think it's up to the elected Ed, you elected representatives, it's your [2:19:53] responsibility, sorry I'm flumbling here, to um to res [2:19:58] to represent your constituent constituents. [2:20:03] It is our responsibility to hold our elected officials accountable and that's [2:20:09] what a whole lot of people are trying to do. Thank you. Thank you for your time. [2:20:19] Good evening. Analic 276 Bristol. I live in Northfield for 25 years. [2:20:26] » Yes, absolutely. So, two things that I've noticed tonight. Several of you and [2:20:31] we do appreciate everything you do. Had to correct yourself and you said when [2:20:37] Tiff is going to pass and then you quickly corrected yourself and you said [2:20:41] if TIF is going to pass. And I'm not the first one who noticed that tonight. It [2:20:46] is a bit concerning. Second comment, when the lovely old [2:20:51] resident, I believe Mary, right, was sitting here and she used the word [2:20:56] vibrant. I don't know if you've noticed, we all clapped. When any of you used the [2:21:01] word vibrant, there was a dead silence. So, I think there's got to be some [2:21:06] difference here. That's two things that I've noticed [2:21:09] tonight. I am also been working in Vanetkcoa public schools for 28 years. I [2:21:16] have my colleagues here. I have the friends of my children here who on the [2:21:20] board. And what you don't know and what you [2:21:24] don't see when the families move into the village and the district because of [2:21:31] the services and there is no adequate pay. And I see [2:21:37] it every day and I'm sure Dr. Tragas see it every day too. That's what creates a [2:21:43] difference for the teachers and you really really really I am asking you to [2:21:50] listen to the board. They did not come up with those ideas because they just [2:21:55] look at the numbers. They came up with those ideas because they feel it on [2:22:00] every day on their back. Please give us an opportunity to have a referendum. [2:22:06] Thank you. [2:22:14] Tanya. Oh, Tanya or Brad. One or the other. Whoever's ready. Good to go. [2:22:21] » Good evening, President Mendrich and trustees, two of whom are my neighbors. [2:22:26] Um, I'm Tanya Wallik, a 21 year Northfield resident, two houses at [2:22:31] Sunset Ridge parent, and I've spent the last five years in development finance. [2:22:35] These views are my own, not the views of my employer. Um, I have some prepared [2:22:39] remarks, but I wanted to start with a comment that Erica made, and just you [2:22:44] guys are really impressive. Like, I'm walking out of here, every one of you, [2:22:49] so immensely proud of this community on either side. Just wonderful. And and I [2:22:54] was thinking about what Erica said and one of the things for me, maybe not for [2:22:58] others, is that this has felt like a public relations campaign. It has not [2:23:02] felt like a genuine exchange. And so I've and and as an example, at 12:57 [2:23:09] today, there was an email sent out and I took a meeting off because I wanted to [2:23:13] read it. And it's there are facts in it, but it is misleading in order. It is [2:23:19] misleading. Is there's things in there that are distractions. They're not [2:23:22] proof. They're apples to oranges. They're not guaranteed and they're [2:23:25] unclear. And I've listed those in here. But I would encourage all of you to have [2:23:30] more direct engagement with all of our citizens versus trying to [2:23:36] sell this to us. Um, now to the prepared remarks. Uh, more philosophical. Years [2:23:42] ago, uh, Dominic's before Marianos closed for a few months over a roof [2:23:46] leak. And my husband and I always joke about this because we got a flyer in the [2:23:50] mail that said, "We're sorry for this tragedy." [2:23:53] Begs the question, "What is a tragedy?" It's not a grocery store closing, we [2:23:58] survived that. It's a child hit on Willow, Wagner, or Waneka roads because [2:24:01] traffic keeps increasing. It's schools so overwhelmed with new students that [2:24:06] classrooms balloon and services dwindle. It's a downtown that looks like the [2:24:11] Glenn and lacks the quirky character and characters that we all moved here for. [2:24:15] These are the unintended consequences of good people making short-sighted [2:24:20] decisions. I know those consequences firsthand. I lived down the street from [2:24:25] Trustee Judas and Trustee Galen and I was backing out on Avon out of my [2:24:30] driveway and I looked both ways and a car was speeding around the bend near my [2:24:33] house and it almost hit me. Traffic pushed on my street after Willow Road [2:24:38] was widened is an unintended consequence. And I know what those [2:24:43] services mean. My son, who couldn't speak at three, with the help of this [2:24:47] district's services last spring in seventh grade, was named most [2:24:51] outstanding student. This year, he's in his second year at Nutrier in math. [2:24:56] Unbelievable. That's what it's at at stake when we [2:25:00] talk about school funding. And it's not an abstraction for me. We've been here [2:25:04] before. As I understand it, in 1955, a developer eyed undeveloped land here. [2:25:09] Residents didn't wait for incentives. They formed a park district and bought [2:25:12] the land themselves. The paper mocked it as invalid. Voters backed it anyway [2:25:17] twice. Today, that land is Willow Park and Middlefork School. This town already [2:25:22] works on its own terms. Northfield's charm is its schools, its parks, and its [2:25:26] trails. We all want a vibrant downtown, but not at the expense of a 23-year [2:25:31] mortgage. We earn a fixerupper. Please don't take out that mortgage on a house [2:25:35] that's already selling itself. Thanks. [2:25:47] Hi, Brad Ross at 1040 Arbor Lane over in Meadow Lakes. I don't doubt anyone's [2:25:54] passion here uh for or against the TIFF. Everyone on this board, everyone who has [2:26:00] spoken, it's all about what is best for Northfield. [2:26:05] And what people are asking for, it's not no, it's not yet. uh they want more [2:26:11] information, they want more time, they want real numbers before this $175 [2:26:18] million tiff, yes or no. The message has been pretty clear. There's been a [2:26:23] thousand people on a petition and that's roughly one in five registered voters in [2:26:29] this uh village. For comparison, only 1,542 [2:26:34] people turned out to vote in the last year's municipal election. That's a 32% [2:26:39] turnout. This petition represents nearly twothirds of that. Many voices on one [2:26:45] issue outside the election cycle. What residents are asking for is more [2:26:52] time, not a rejection. TIFF money is public money, diverted public uh [2:26:57] property tax revenue, and the public deserves a real framework on how it's [2:27:02] spent, not just a headline figure. Right now, we have a $175 million number. A [2:27:10] few lines for construction, maintenance, and administration. No one, three, [2:27:15] five-year cash flow projections. No sensitivity analysis. [2:27:20] Private development is already happening in this corridor. Well, without any tiff [2:27:26] help, which should make the board seriously question where is it but for [2:27:32] test is even met. When asked for a plan, residents have been pointed to a vision [2:27:38] 2040 uh plan, a general vision document, not a financial model. And then there's [2:27:44] the bigger question. A tiff hand significant leverage to whoever [2:27:50] developers show up with a proposal. Once that money is committed, this board and [2:27:55] this community are reacting to developers plans instead of setting the [2:28:00] terms on our owns. Before we commit $175 million or so, I uh residents uh deserve [2:28:10] a clear villageled vision, not a developer on one. What what are the [2:28:17] mixes? Residential, commercial, industrial. Uh what do we want in the [2:28:22] corridor? What does this mix look like 5, 10, 20 years now? Not just at uh [2:28:29] project completion. What tax flow pro projections do we have right now? [2:28:36] H um how the future uh decisions get made once this money is committed. Does [2:28:42] the board retain real control or does the approval uh hand the control over to [2:28:49] the developers? My ask tonight is specific. release all of the [2:28:55] documentation, SB Freriedman and others, the deliverables, not the excerpts, but [2:29:00] not a summary presentation, all of the background information so every resident [2:29:06] can take a look at it and an analysize it themselves. Um, [2:29:13] so that's it. I'm just looking slow down, define the vision before the [2:29:18] developers do it themselves. Thank you. [2:29:26] The last uh three slips are Tana, I think, Hitch, Rick Zalinski, [2:29:35] and boy, this last one, it looks like C H E T Han. [2:29:43] I got it. Okay, great. Tana, >> hi. Good evening. I have heard a lot [2:29:50] tonight and a lot of emotion and a lot of dedication. I wanted to clarify [2:29:55] something that was important to me when I was thinking about this. If a a [2:30:00] village has a tiff, they cannot structurally keep a school out of the [2:30:06] tax instrument increment financing. If the village decides to move forward with [2:30:12] the tiff, what that means because their overlapping tax bodies that all the [2:30:17] incremental tax revenue is diverted into the villages tiff fund rather than going [2:30:23] to the schools. But as you were saying earlier, while a village can't exempt a [2:30:29] school district from the TIFF baseline mechanics, they can enter enter into a [2:30:34] legally binding IGA, intergovernmental agreement. Through an IGA, the village [2:30:41] can agree to carve out a specific portion of the TIFF revenue and pass it [2:30:46] back directly to the school district to offset any financial strain or handle [2:30:53] new student enrollment. In many states, including Illinois, [2:30:59] statutory protections require the village to reimburse school districts [2:31:04] out of the tiff fund if the new development directly causes school [2:31:09] enrollment to increase or brings in more children. And I didn't understand that [2:31:15] before and I just wanted to clarify it for everybody. Thank you. [2:31:18] » Thank you, [2:31:23] » Rick Sinski. [2:31:30] Just in case there's someone upstairs, we'll give them a minute. [2:31:35] And last but not least, is it [2:31:39] » Shaathan? >> Jathan. [2:31:42] » Okay. [2:31:47] » Good evening and thank you for the time. Uh I am Chathan Sharma live in 2251 [2:31:52] Bracken Lane. uh very actively involved in everything that goes on in the [2:31:56] village. Patrick knows the email exchanges we've had uh going going on [2:32:02] for a while now. Right? So I think you know first of all I kind of want to [2:32:06] reflect what uh some of the people here said. I do not believe the village board [2:32:11] is out to destroy this village. Right? Many of you live here. Many of you lived [2:32:14] here longer than I have. And I I don't believe that you're here to destroy the [2:32:19] village, ruin our schools and turn this into an unlivable place. Right. I I [2:32:24] don't I do not really believe that. But at the same time, when I go through [2:32:29] everything that you put out there, I've read every single document, every single [2:32:32] communication that you have sent out, including the email that came out this [2:32:35] afternoon, which kind of seemed a bit, you know, last minute. [2:32:40] The one thing that kind of strikes me is I moved to Northfield about 11 years ago [2:32:46] because I liked sleepy old town that Northfield is at the moment, right? When [2:32:52] you talk about vibrancy, I go to happen. I had dinner at Blue [2:32:57] Blue Fish or Blue forget the name of the restaurant. Bluefish, I think. Uh, I go [2:33:01] to Stormies and you know I really do not want any more vibrancy than what we all [2:33:10] about you but you know [2:33:15] I really [2:33:19] I step out on a Friday night and you know other than casinos and you know uh [2:33:25] betting stands and things like that there's enough in this village to kind [2:33:28] of you know keep me happy Okay, I do agree that the Marianos is a blight. I [2:33:34] understand all the problems that you're trying to deal with and we should do [2:33:37] something about it, right? But I don't know if that requires $175 million over [2:33:41] 23 years. That's the part I do not understand. [2:33:45] So for me, the appeal is look, this is not one against the other. We're not [2:33:51] here to fight with each other. It's really to understand what does that [2:33:55] mean, right? What do you mean by a vibrant downtown? [2:33:58] is does it involve big box stores? Does it involve you in a cannabis [2:34:02] dispensaries? What exactly is vibrant? That definition may be different [2:34:07] compared to like you know what the board has versus what the residents think but [2:34:11] I think as someone I think it was the last speaker who said give us more [2:34:14] details right tell us what the plan is 2040 yes I've read that plan it's a bit [2:34:19] vague it's a bit far off right so what we need is something that's real [2:34:25] something that makes sense to all of the people and I don't think you know I [2:34:30] would say no to tiff just just like that without understanding that once Once we [2:34:35] understand that, once we know where we're going, [2:34:38] a referendum would be great. If we can have that, it's a democracy after all, [2:34:42] right? That'd be a fantastic move on your part to do that. But all I'm [2:34:46] asking, just like a lot of people here have asked for, is look, you're not our [2:34:49] enemies. We're not your enemies either. So, let's kind of work together. Give us [2:34:54] more details, slow down a little bit, and I'm sure we'll get to a place where [2:34:58] now we can do the right thing for the village. Thank you. [2:35:01] » Thank you. [2:35:08] Okay. Is there anyone else who didn't submit a slip or who I may have missed [2:35:14] who'd like to speak at this point? >> Does it have to be on? Can I make an [2:35:19] announcement? >> Is that I should have done it at the [2:35:23] beginning. >> Come on up. It'll be a nice distraction. [2:35:29] No, just um just that if you go to our caucus website, tell us who you are. [2:35:34] » Oh, Beverly Smith, 772 Heap Road, Northfield, um chair of the Northfield [2:35:40] Caucus. If you go to our caucus website right now, you'll see that we have a [2:35:44] call for future trustees that we will be interviewing at the end of September and [2:35:50] the application deadline is September 7th. So, tonight you see people here [2:35:55] that are interested in village issues. just wanted to make that announcement. [2:36:00] Thank you. >> Thank you. [2:36:05] » Okay. Um so now uh board members, we have a [2:36:12] chance to um discuss this amongst ourselves. Um [2:36:18] first of all, I want to thank all the residents for for taking the time and [2:36:22] and sticking with us for this long period of time to share your concerns. [2:36:26] Um, board members, anybody want to have a go at any thoughts they have after all [2:36:31] of this? >> I I I'm going to start. Um, I appreciate [2:36:36] everybody sharing their thoughts, their concerns. Um, [2:36:40] I've really struggled. I reached out to some of my fellow board members having [2:36:44] been a resident in Northfield for way too many years. [2:36:52] The div the division, the divisiveness, [2:36:58] the threats, the mistreatment of human beings, [2:37:05] whether it's schoolboard members, whether it's village board members who [2:37:09] are trying to look out for the best interest of [2:37:14] ourselves. And I I think that we really need to [2:37:21] look what's going on in this country and and some of these other countries and [2:37:25] say to ourselves, do we really want to be looked at like that [2:37:30] by the people that we represent? And I I think that um [2:37:36] there's not one board member sitting up here at the dis tonight who would do [2:37:42] anything intentionally [2:37:46] to hurt our schools who give our our students [2:37:53] the best education in the area. And I look at Dr. Treyos right now and I told [2:37:58] him, "You want a free advertisement? What Nutrier did for my boys is amazing. [2:38:04] And my wife and I never thought we would have two kids in Big 10 schools. I mean, [2:38:08] it's it's awesome. Go Hawks. But in in in in reality, I I think that [2:38:15] the strongest message that people need to hear is the fact that we're trying to [2:38:21] work together with the schools to reach a common goal, and that is to make [2:38:28] everybody happy. And is that achievable? I sure as hell hope so. And I'll do [2:38:34] everything I can in my power as an individual board member to make that [2:38:39] happen as well. But I I I just end with what I'm saying is is [2:38:45] this is really tough for the people who love this town, who live in this town to [2:38:50] see the division of what's going on with our community. and and I I see a couple [2:38:56] of our business our business people here tonight. I will tell you [2:39:02] I will do anything I can to support you guys if something happens. And I know [2:39:08] it's if or when or however anybody wants to say it, but as a village board, we [2:39:13] support our small businesses. We patronize them and we want them to [2:39:17] exceed just as well. So, you know, I I I know we can get through this and I I [2:39:23] think it's just everybody's got different opinions, but we can't let [2:39:26] those opinions get in the way of friendship and civility. Thank you. [2:39:33] » Anyone else? >> Uh big comment I'll make at the end of [2:39:37] the end of all of this. Um one, we're listening. We've been listening all [2:39:41] along. Um, just because we don't go on various platforms and [2:39:47] um, engage in debate there doesn't mean we're not listening and paying attention [2:39:50] to what everybody's talking about and what's out there. Um, I will reiterate [2:39:54] from my side of the world, I've got students in the school system. I want to [2:39:59] see them go to good schools. I'm not going to wreck my kids school. I mean, [2:40:03] like, come on. Like, uh, but at the end of the day, where I think that leads to [2:40:07] is our next steps. IGA was mentioned a few times tonight in [2:40:11] different ways. I think there's ways we can put that together. I think we're not [2:40:16] any I think it's be tough um because there's multiple factors to how an IGA [2:40:21] can work, whether it's the amount of students that move into the district, [2:40:24] whether it's the um CPI increases that happen, how to reconcile that, whether [2:40:29] it's the new growth side. I mean, there's multiple If you love charts, [2:40:33] check out school finance. It's the best way to look at multiple charts on growth [2:40:37] and what it looks like over time. So I tell I say that in the sense that we are [2:40:41] paying attention to it. We're trying to figure out how to make that all work to [2:40:46] what Trusty Whitaker was saying. Um the unfortunate thing about negotiations is [2:40:52] you said everybody's going to be happy. A lot of negotiations I've been in not [2:40:55] everybody ends up happy at the end of the day. Um, but I think there's a path [2:40:59] for us to go down that can ensure that our schools are still in a good place. [2:41:04] Well, making our downtown do the things we've been asking, people have been [2:41:08] asking for with their downtown for years. I'll refer back to the Hap Road [2:41:11] survey, 900 residents, 85% said they wanted a better downtown. The caucus [2:41:17] survey that came out, I think it was 2023 [2:41:20] or four, right in that range, two top two things were a better [2:41:25] downtown. So, at some point we have to listen to our residents that are saying [2:41:28] we want our downtown to be improved well balancing making sure that our [2:41:33] schools are in a good place. And the last comment I'll make, not to speak for [2:41:36] my other trustees, but we've had lots of us have had one-off conversations. This [2:41:41] is not being taken lightly in any way, shape, or form. And in fact, in some [2:41:45] ways, I'm sick of talking about I'd rather talk about some other things like [2:41:49] how the Gophers are going to beat Iowa this year um for Tom's benefit. Um, [2:41:55] but when we we look at at at all this I think we're all in very different [2:42:02] places. Please do not discredit and just say we're all same thought process. We [2:42:06] are in very different places trying to make sure that we're coming to a [2:42:08] conclusion that makes the most sense for the village as a whole. There are 5751 [2:42:15] people here according to our sign, but it's probably more than that according [2:42:19] to the world population deal. we have to represent all those vi all the folks in [2:42:24] the village across the board and we're trying to do our best to make sure we [2:42:26] can do that. So please give us some grace on trying to figure this out um [2:42:31] and make sure that we have the right conclusion. I think this board will come [2:42:34] to that right conclusion at the end of the day. But I appreciate the work [2:42:37] that's been put in by everybody. I appreciate the comments from everybody [2:42:41] and thank you for packing the room. I didn't know village board meetings would [2:42:44] be so exciting. So thank you everybody. [2:42:50] Um, I I know I'm the quiet trustee. Um, I try to do a lot of listening and right [2:42:56] now I'm processing a lot. There's a lot of good conversation tonight. Uh, a lot [2:43:01] of thoughtful comments, compassionate comments, respectful [2:43:05] comments, and I would urge the the public hearing, you know, will be [2:43:11] complete tonight. Um, but I would urge that those that sentiment continue. I'd [2:43:17] like to hear from more people in the community with with that same idea. [2:43:21] People that understand that this is a complex problem that's has a lot of [2:43:27] nuance to it. It it doesn't it's not reducible to a sound bite. And I'd like [2:43:31] more people to have thoughtful conversations like we had tonight. I [2:43:35] that that's immensely helpful to me and I think it's immensely helpful to [2:43:38] everybody else up here. >> Charlie, go ahead. [2:43:43] » Um I just kind of kind of got a question and some comments. Um Patrick, when you [2:43:47] say we're not doing well, by what standards are you talking about? [2:43:51] Excluding the Mariano site, because what I've seen is full parking lots and busy [2:43:55] businesses on a daily basis year round. The whole downtown area has been doing [2:44:00] were very well. I talked to Hoffers and I talked to all the people that we have [2:44:04] in those businesses. They're doing exceptionally well. I talked to people [2:44:08] in certain other businesses. They're complaining that their parking lots are [2:44:11] being filled by other people that are walking across the street to go to those [2:44:14] businesses. So, um, the other thing is that doesn't get talked about much is [2:44:19] 790 frontage, which the new three-story medical office building is going into, [2:44:23] which is going to clean up that section if people want to talk about blight or [2:44:28] they're not happy with what was there. So, I think that's a that's a huge plus. [2:44:32] Also, there is a phase two that's been discussed for the Joselyn Center [2:44:35] property that the developer has said that they are working on. They're buying [2:44:39] up other property. So, there's other development there's that's going on [2:44:43] there as well. And yes, this I agree this is a complex issue. Uh this is [2:44:50] getting very difficult. But I also think that you know as trustees that are [2:44:54] elected by the residents and when you look at and I took the the list here as [2:44:58] I was kind of for who's kind of against it, who's kind of neutral. Um, you know, [2:45:02] there's an overwhelming response. An overwhelming response. And I also before [2:45:06] I came here tonight started going through the from August 16th till today, [2:45:11] we had 71 people that are opposed to the TIFF and 10 basically that said they're [2:45:16] for it. So, and I didn't get a chance to go back because there are so many [2:45:20] responses we're getting. And that's what I've pushed for and I think people need [2:45:24] to is to constantly email the Vgroup. Reach out to our fellow trustees. Reach [2:45:29] out to Tracy. Reach out to the village manager. I think the Vgroup is a great [2:45:33] way to to share your opinions because the way it's set up is that the village [2:45:38] manager is the only one that's supposed to respond so that we get to see his [2:45:42] response and we get to see your input. Um, again, you know, not to beat a beat [2:45:47] a dead horse, but I've lived here 67 years and if you look at where we've [2:45:52] been and where we're going and the development that we've had and the [2:45:55] changes, it's incredible. I feel after this centennial that I've lived here for [2:46:00] a hundred years because all the work that I've done and we've done in [2:46:04] researching this uh history and there's a lot of tremendous history and I agree [2:46:10] and Erica, what you said was spot on. I agree. There's been things that have [2:46:14] happened that people that were friends aren't talking to each other now. [2:46:18] There's things that have happened and I think we have to we have to uh put out [2:46:22] the olive branch, so to speak, and really look at what needs to be done. Um [2:46:27] I would hope that I've never gotten the answer to this yet, and I don't know if [2:46:31] Tracy can answer it or Patrick, but I I agree. What is the rush? I feel like [2:46:36] there's this big push. We have getting development. I I look at all the people [2:46:40] that come to these meetings. I look at all the people that have emailed uh [2:46:43] people that we talk to each other on the street whether it's at the centennial [2:46:46] which I tried to avoid any tiff talk at the centennial because that was our day [2:46:52] to shine and celebrate. So I wore the no tiff talk at that night for a reason [2:46:59] because I think we needed a couple days to heal. We needed a couple days to [2:47:03] focus on what we have back here against the wall and what the work that the [2:47:08] committee especially mayor roads myself um you know all of us have done Tracy. [2:47:14] So I think um you know I would like to see a slowdown and I I've been opposed [2:47:20] to the tiff from the very beginning because my primary concern is our small [2:47:24] businesses, our local businesses. Uh Trusty Whitaker and I worked on a [2:47:29] committee that we came up with during COVID and I came up with the slogan shop [2:47:34] eat explore find it northfield that we had on our vehicle stickers until the [2:47:38] centennial sticker came up this year. Trusty Whitaker and I and Melissa DeFao [2:47:43] worked on making sure that we advertised and advocated for our small businesses. [2:47:48] So, and that's what I'm trying to do now because if the business owner doesn't [2:47:52] own the property, that person is at risk of losing everything. And you have [2:47:57] people here that own their business that live in town that I feel we have to [2:48:02] protect. And no matter what you say, pro or against tiff, my biggest concern is [2:48:07] that yes, we can cont try to control zoning and all the other things we do, [2:48:11] but if some developer wants to come in and he fits the zoning, uh, we're going [2:48:16] to get sued if we try to stop him from doing something. And I worry that a [2:48:20] place like Hoffers or UD dog has got millions of dollars invested in their [2:48:24] business, in their equipment. And what'll happen is somebody comes in and [2:48:28] says, "Oh, I want to put an apartment complex here, but I don't want to put [2:48:32] retail on the first floor." Or if they do want to put retail on the first [2:48:35] floor, what they want to do is you'll be out of business for a couple years. [2:48:39] We'll lose that tax revenue. And once a business is gone for a couple years, [2:48:42] it's very difficult for people to come back and establish that. And then in the [2:48:46] meantime, where are they going to go? And if they do get a spot back in that [2:48:50] location, what's the rent going to be? So that's why I'll be honest. From the [2:48:55] very beginning, I've been against TIFF. 30some years ago, because I've lived [2:48:59] here forever, they tried to do a TIFF from where Pam's building is, where [2:49:04] Metamorphosis, all the way down that row to where Suels was, which is now [2:49:08] Stormy's. And a big part of the tax increment financing that they wanted to [2:49:12] do was the imminent domain section of that where they wanted to use imminent [2:49:16] domain to knock all that down, build a hotel, do all these different things. [2:49:21] And it was strongly defeated by the residents of this community at that [2:49:25] time. And I wasn't involved politically at that time. I was raising kids. I was [2:49:30] busy doing my jobs. But when I look back on that now, I feel like we're in that [2:49:34] same position right now that we have to protect the integrity of our small [2:49:39] businesses and the integrity of Northfield. If you go back to the [2:49:42] history lesson, especially when you look at the walls and you look at the stuff [2:49:46] at the park, it really shows you where we've come and where we're going. and [2:49:51] that it it's worked out. Yes, there are things that we could do better, but you [2:49:56] know, I think when you listen to the people, which is what our responsibility [2:49:59] is as trustees, overwhelmingly they're against this tiff. So, that's why I'm [2:50:04] against it and that's why I don't think that, you know, we have to protect our [2:50:07] small businesses and and protect our community. So, thank you for your time. [2:50:18] » All right. Um, I just want to say thank you very much to everybody who's taken [2:50:21] the time to come to the meeting, to write the village board, to talk to us [2:50:25] personally, to have conversations. I think the strength is in conversations [2:50:28] and people getting together and asking questions and having a dialogue, you [2:50:33] know. Um, I also appreciate all of the people up here who have who have worked [2:50:39] together to try to promote and sell and make Northfield a better place. Um, I I [2:50:44] do want to encourage a m uh meeting with the business owners to have a discussion [2:50:48] and maybe come to terms or at least a discussion about what's wanted from [2:50:52] them, what's best for them because I know that there's some mix. I've spoken [2:50:55] to some people who want an SSA and are fine with their property tax going up [2:50:59] 4%. I've talked to some people who thinks that that would put them out of [2:51:02] business. So, I think it's worthwhile maybe having a business meeting um with [2:51:06] them. Um, and I also think a as a teacher who teaches at Nutrier, whose [2:51:12] children go to Sunset Ridge, whose wife works at Nutrier, I'm heavily invested [2:51:16] at not just this community, but those schools and Middle Fork and AOKA where I [2:51:22] did the eighth grade meetings for 16 years. Um, I encourage everyone as an [2:51:27] educator to get their information from the facts. Go to the school's website, [2:51:32] read their Palooi report, go to the villages website, do your research. [2:51:37] Please, please do not rely on social media. As an educator, I beg you not to. [2:51:43] It is not a valid source. Go to the facts. Do your own research, please. Um, [2:51:48] and I encourage the continued dialogue. I encourage people to ask questions, to [2:51:52] reach out, to write the village group. I I think as we celebrated and spent time [2:51:56] um at the Clarkson Lodge and spoke to different people who came back, there's [2:52:00] love for this community as a whole. And I think that involves the businesses, [2:52:04] that involves the schools, that also involves the people who live here. And [2:52:08] I'd like to use this opportunity for us to work together as a whole community to [2:52:12] improve this and not divide and fraction this because this is a beautiful [2:52:16] community with incredibly strong schools, wonderful businesses that have [2:52:21] been here for years and years, many of whom, you know, we frequent you. My kids [2:52:25] were at Udogu yesterday. I was just getting a slice of pizza at Northshore [2:52:29] before this meeting because we didn't have food today. Um, but I, you know, [2:52:34] this is a community that we all love and I want that established. I also want [2:52:37] people to know that you're being heard. You know, we're reading every single [2:52:41] email we receive. You know, we're having conversations. You know, please, if you [2:52:46] have my email, reach out. I'm happy to have a conversation with you. [2:52:53] » Thanks, Andrew. It's been a long night, but I think a very productive night. And [2:52:58] to your point, I think we are listening and hearing what people have to say. and [2:53:03] I appreciate the general tone of uh the dialogue tonight. Um so I I I took a lot [2:53:10] away from that and I think if we continue that I think we can make [2:53:13] progress and come to a good solution one way or another. So um very encouraged [2:53:21] about tonight. >> Okay. Thank you. [2:53:24] All right. Then with nothing further for the public hearing, may I have a motion [2:53:28] and a second to close the hearing? Motion to close the public hearing at [2:53:32] this time. >> Second. [2:53:34] » All those in favor? >> I [2:53:36] » I >> opposed. [2:53:39] » I declare the public hearing closed at 9:49 p.m. [2:53:44] » But don't leave. There's more board meeting. [2:53:47] » The next item on the agenda is the trustee liaison reports. [2:53:53] » Oh, you guys aren't you guys aren't going to want to miss this. [2:53:59] Trusty Yetus, would you like to start? >> I would be happy to. [2:54:06] » Um, >> can I just ask for quiet as you exit the [2:54:10] room, please? Thank you. >> Uh, well, this is probably the most [2:54:15] exciting month for me to give a report on the schools. The schools are back in [2:54:18] session. Students are back at school. Parents are relieved. teachers are [2:54:22] excited to welcome the new students across the board both at Sunset Ridge, [2:54:26] Middlefork, Avoka, and at Nutrier. Um because the timing of the meeting, I [2:54:32] don't have a great deal to update on uh Sunset Ridge, but I will say at uh [2:54:36] Nutrier, uh you've probably noticed the construction that's going on at the [2:54:40] Northfield campus. Uh they modernized those outdoor facilities for athletic, [2:54:44] kinetic, wellness, and community use uh because of an 11 million donation as [2:54:49] well as some additional district funds. Um that will provide a lot of things, [2:54:53] some some things I've learned while it's gone on, but the bleacher replacements, [2:54:57] the new stadium scoreboard, additional accessibility, and a fitness path, which [2:55:02] I thought was kind of exciting. So, uh at the WKA campus, there's new science [2:55:07] labs. Um and five more are under construction. They've moved post high [2:55:11] school counseling to be most or more accessible and uh they've changed some [2:55:15] of the security to make it uh more more efficient. [2:55:20] There's a lot more if you want to read their briefs. [2:55:23] If anyone wants I have a copy here. >> Okay. Thank you. [2:55:27] » Nothing on planning and zoning this month. [2:55:29] » Okay. >> Uh park district, I have nothing. Uh, [2:55:33] Red Center, we're in the pro process of starting our budget and hoping to have a [2:55:38] proposed budget by the end of next week and then we will have budget [2:55:45] subcommittee meetings in October and ready to go for approval. So, [2:55:49] » okay, >> there we go. [2:55:51] dressy or >> uh VOCA school update. We met they met [2:55:54] on August 20th and um they gave us a really nice shout out for the centennial [2:55:59] and promoting that and helping us to promote that with uh uh at their [2:56:03] meeting. So, thank you very much to the VOCA school board for the shout out for [2:56:06] the centennial. Uh they're if you want to go make it brief, go to their [2:56:11] website. There isn't really anything special that's going on as far as [2:56:14] bizarre that we really have to cover. Um, their next meeting is September 17th [2:56:19] at Marie Murphy at 6 o'clock. Architectural did not meet in August. [2:56:24] Their next meeting is Monday, September 14th. Correct, Steve? [2:56:28] » Okay. And then the Centennial, I think we talked about that plenty. Again, [2:56:33] thank you very much to everyone that came. Thank you to all the businesses [2:56:36] and all the individual donors. It was a huge success. We are planning the next [2:56:39] one coming up. So, um, be prepared for that. Um, I had people say, "Why can't [2:56:45] we do this every year?" here. I said, "Well, that's an awful lot to do the [2:56:48] 101st, 102nd." But, uh, I think hopefully Ribfest will take the next [2:56:52] level to that. Uh, also, uh, please join us on Friday, September 11th at 8:30 at [2:57:00] the fire station to commemorate the 25th unfortunate anniversary of 911. I know [2:57:06] the police and fire department and Tracy and the village manager are working with [2:57:10] the fire chief to plan that. Uh, so that was um, awesome. And then there's some [2:57:15] neat news with the police pension. I was told the other day that they're [2:57:19] basically almost at 70% funding, which is up from about 62 to 63% at their last [2:57:25] pension meeting. So the investments that we've made, the extra money that we put [2:57:29] is helping that investment do much better. So I think that that's a really [2:57:33] uh cool thing. And then also shout out to the police department for hosting the [2:57:38] PD uh community rollouts. I think there were five of them. I think I attended uh [2:57:43] four of them. They were awesome. Uh I think you know some weren't as well [2:57:47] attended, but I think it's a great program and I hopefully you can do that [2:57:50] again next summer. But there were some really cool moments and it was great to [2:57:53] interact with the police department. So thank you very much for that. [2:57:59] » Uh since our last meeting, the library board has had two meetings. They had a [2:58:03] special meeting in early August to discuss the JRB. I was not present [2:58:07] there. Patrick was there. I think you guys know the result of that. If you [2:58:11] have any specific questions, Patrick can probably answer it. And then last week [2:58:14] they had a regular meeting and of relevance is their their understanding [2:58:18] or their hope is that um by October the post office should have a response about [2:58:25] the what they want to do with respect to the the library renovation and if you [2:58:30] know at that point they can continue hopefully the their planning. So Patrick [2:58:36] maybe have more on that um in your report but that's it. Northwest [2:58:39] Municipal Conference should have a meeting in September. They're off the [2:58:42] summer and there should be a report for that. Then [2:58:46] » no ZBA meeting in August, but we're going to have a big time on September [2:58:50] 2nd because there's four things on the agenda. So, we've got some stuff coming [2:58:53] up for ZBA. Um, stop on by at 7 p.m. >> Okay. [2:58:58] » Thank you. Um, the departmental reports were provided in our packets. Do [2:59:04] trustees have any questions related to those reports? [2:59:10] I I don't but I just want to say something in in conjunction with the [2:59:14] centennial. The public works, police, and fire were Johnny on the spot for [2:59:21] everything. And I I think we we take for granted our essential services, but what [2:59:27] we have in Northfield is an amazing group on all the from admin down to [2:59:34] police, fire, and public works. We're we're very lucky. So, thank you guys. [2:59:38] Thank you. >> Thank you. [2:59:40] » Okay, Greg, anything from the village attorney perspective? [2:59:43] » No report tonight. Thank you. >> Patrick, anything you'd like to report [2:59:46] on? >> Just one thing. Uh, as some of you may [2:59:49] have heard, we had a high school student struck at the uh cross near the crossing [2:59:53] on Waneka Road near the uh trail east of Lagoon. Um, Dr. Dr. Tyos and I spoke on [2:59:59] Friday about uh that crossing and the fact that it's a route to schools and [3:00:04] there are a lot of people cross there and we had a discussion about the [3:00:08] potential for a rapid flashing beacon at that intersection. I know we've got one [3:00:13] just west of there, but I wanted to check to see with a group what your [3:00:16] thoughts are on us entertaining initial discussions with the county about what [3:00:20] we could do for that crossing and possibly the forest service district. [3:00:24] » Absolutely. >> Yes. Okay. So, we'll get working on that [3:00:28] and uh despite a late afternoon Friday outreach, he promised me that it [3:00:32] wouldn't be a bad news and it was not. So, thank you. [3:00:36] » That is it. >> All right. [3:00:37] » Quick quick question for for Patrick. Um, as promised, I just wanted to for [3:00:42] you to give us an update on the sidewalk potential sidewalk issue across from [3:00:47] Middlefork. >> Sure. So, um, we recently received, uh, [3:00:52] preliminary plans on what their site layout could be for the new school. Uh, [3:00:56] it looks like, and I'm looking for Steve to give me a nod if I'm wrong, but a [3:01:00] significant change in the way that they cue vehicles for school. Uh, which will [3:01:05] give us some different opportunities for a midblock crossing, we believe, at that [3:01:09] intersection. It's still preliminary uh but it's uh data that we're going to be [3:01:13] continuing to work with the schools on and meet and talk about the possibility [3:01:17] for getting a midblock crossing in that may not need to wait until the school [3:01:21] construction starts. Right. >> So we may be able to work something out [3:01:24] sooner and I'm still chasing uh Schroeder concrete on answers about um [3:01:29] their work in that proposed for that area. [3:01:32] » And then is do you have an update from the village standpoint on the post [3:01:35] office? Um, we finally have a contact at the post office to help shepherd through [3:01:43] our request for consideration of a temporary location for them and a [3:01:47] permanent location. Uh, the person has the requested information that they had [3:01:53] asked me to send them and they just haven't gotten me a response yet. Uh, [3:01:57] the last update I had from him was on Thursday or Friday of last week and he [3:02:02] said I just hadn't had a chance to look at it yet. So, I have a reminder on my [3:02:06] calendar every Monday to send him a paying reminder. What's our status? [3:02:10] » I'll let you know as soon as I hear more, but I'm keeping the executive [3:02:12] director of the library apprised when I do have outreach. [3:02:16] » Do I I know he's not standing here anymore, but you you have a new the [3:02:21] village has a new employee. >> He's sitting right there. [3:02:24] » He's sitting right there. >> Oh, there he is. See the [3:02:26] » Did you just walk in when I turned my head? [3:02:28] » No. >> Okay, great. Thank you. [3:02:31] I'd like to introduce Brett Stewart who's uh just joined us on Monday uh [3:02:36] joins us from Colorado where he was an assistant to the village manager there. [3:02:40] He'll be at the same title with us but working on a much bigger scale as far as [3:02:44] assisting with special projects, communication, economic development, [3:02:48] public works, you name it, he's going to be the kind of jack of all trades for [3:02:52] helping us work through issues that come in. And uh I'd like to thank you for [3:02:55] authorizing that position during the budget last year. I think we've got a uh [3:02:59] a great find and he's already adding great value. [3:03:03] » Thank you. >> And Patrick, I want to clarify, people [3:03:08] were asking about that, but they forget that we used to have an assistant [3:03:11] village manager years ago and during monies that got tied or whatever wasn't [3:03:16] replaced. So, this isn't something new to Northville. We've had an assistant [3:03:19] village manager, an assistant to the village manager, which is, you know, [3:03:22] well overdue. We talked about this when you were get hired. So, I'm glad to see [3:03:25] that we're moving forward and helping you get additional staffing. That's [3:03:29] » much needed. Thank you. >> Great. [3:03:32] Okay. >> Anything else? Um, this concludes our [3:03:37] business for the evening. May I have a motion and a [3:03:40] » So moved. >> Second. [3:03:42] » All those in favor? >> I opposed. Thank you everyone.