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I think it's a good idea.
>> So, we're going to ask.

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» Please rise for the Pledge of
Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America, and to the

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Republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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Good evening, everyone, and welcome to
the August 18th, 2016 meeting of the

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Patchogue Village Zoning Board of
Appeals.

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The first application
will be a new application at a 20

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» Uh, sorry.
>> Yeah, it's okay.

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20 Medford Ave LLC seeks permission to
demolish an existing multi-tenant office

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building and construct a two-story motor
vehicle sales building.

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Going on Leaf 435-28-13,
special permit is required for motor

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vehicle sales.
It lies Leaf 435-33,

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the parking stalls are required 9 by 20,
provided 9 by 18 for display vehicles.

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Also requires Leaf 435-31-A8,
105 parking spaces required, provided

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46.
Subject premises are located in the D1

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business zone.
Is the applicant or representative

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thereof?

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Welcome.
>> Good evening.

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» Kindly state your name and address for
the record.

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» Eric Crew.
>> Thank you.

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» And you have a certificate of that up?
>> Yep.

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» Yes.
>> J. Timothy Shay, Jr. Shapell & Down, 100

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Motor Parkway, Hauppauge, New York, for
the applicant.

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Joined by Mike
Biancaniello, who is senior grade there

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He's the site engineer.
Who may come up if there's any questions

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that I can't answer. And Ethan Schuss.
He's going to have to say it. I I had it

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before. Robert Shikowski.
Yeah, he was our traffic and parking

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engineer and who did the parking for the
parts of the the application.

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Uh
We have an easel, but we could not make

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the third leg work. So, I apologize. I
just hope

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» So, we have a two easel.
>> Yes, we have a a perspective of

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So,
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So,
I'll just leave it here and hope that

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you can see it and then I'll lift it up
to you as I go along with you.

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» Yeah, we can wonder if members of the
public can see it. So,

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we have an easel in the building.
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Oh, ours is broken.

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So,
We're doing great, Jim, aren't we?

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» We take our two legs.

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Okay, here we are.
Uh so,

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» Uh let's see. Members of the board, if
that board was here,

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then you guys see it?
>> This first board is really just so that

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you get an idea of what the rendering
would be.

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» Okay, if you could if you could just
turn it to the public as well.

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» I'll just have you take take a quick
look at it because I don't think it was

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in your original package.
Uh to give you a visual, you know,

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sometimes a picture is worth a thousand
words.

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Uh so, we feel that would be one of
those times. Uh so, the the site in

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question is uh
former Long Island Bank, aka the

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building on the west side of 12 Boston
Post Road in that avenue.

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Um
two

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lots north of Concord Highway
is the Commerce former Commerce Bank, TD

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Bank, which is directly south of us. The
glass store will be directly north of

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us.
The current building on the site is

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16,212
uh feet on a single story. So, that's

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the whole footprint. So, the footprint
takes up a

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large part almost 1/3
of the building's in fact a little bit

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over 1/3 of the of the property side
which is 41,002

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sq ft.
The property feeds on B1 which would

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allow for a special exception for the
car dealership.

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The application before you is for the
special exception for motor vehicle

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sales
and two-part variances.

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One
for 46 stalls where 105 were required

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and the second is for the size 12 stalls
that will be located along the street

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frontage
as vehicle display. Those are going to

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be
small park parked cars that will remain

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there so that people can come and
actually see the car possibly test drive

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it.
And those will be along the street

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frontage at
on 112. The variance is instead of a 9

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by 20 stall, we're looking for a 9 by 18
stall. These cars are not going to be

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moving very often. They're going to be
there for display and when we do test

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drives, they're going to have obviously
have a sales person there to watch the

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vehicles out and make sure there's no
issues.

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The proposed building which I
showed you running up is a two-story

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building
with a open ceiling to the front. Okay,

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so you'll have like a
large glass window up front

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and there will be within the footprint
that we probably create

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that uh
with the awning.

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Okay.
Okay, which is in your packet. Okay,

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which is in your packet.

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This is the floor plan.
I'll show it to the audience

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momentarily.
So, the larger of two footprints is the

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ground floor.
And the ground floor will have cars

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inside up front.
And then there's a reception area,

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lounge area,
office space for sales including a sales

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manager, restrooms,
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and again, the the front half of the
building is actually going to be open

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air. It's going to go to the almost the
same ceiling, not quite.

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it gives better lighting and a better
visual when you walk in. And you it's

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the typical car dealership uh template
of these days. The second floor will be

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in the back above the
downstairs offices, there will be

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upstairs offices uh for the accounting
department, which will be approximately

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four to five people,
file cabinets, controller's office,

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conference room,
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break room for people who uh you know,
have lunch or whatever, restrooms, etc.

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So, uh give you an idea of what we're
looking at here as far as inside the

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building.
That is

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And if you show this to
people right here that want to take a

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look at it, please feel free to come up
and take a look at it as far as I'm

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concerned. It's
open book.

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Uh
So, the current site

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use utilizes an easement to the north
uh for their driveway access. Actually,

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their curb cut is north of their
property line.

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Uh
in doing title we determined that that

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really wasn't shouldn't be the way it
should be. And what we ended up doing

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was working with New York State DOT to
move that curb cut a little to the south

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to our property line. And the site plan
will have a single circulation around

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the building with circulation up front.
So, you'll have the 12 stalls along the

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street frontage around 112, which is
part of the variance.

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And
by doing all that we've done, we've

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actually resulted in reducing the
footprint of the building

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by 57%.
So, it's gone from a 16,000 square foot

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building down to a footprint of about
7,000 ft.

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The site will not be used for automotive
repair. I think that's a very important

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distinction here.
Um or the storage of motor vehicles

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including new motor vehicles other than
those that are on display.

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Our client has already purchased a
property um on Station Road in Yaphank

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which is 10 minutes away that they're
going to utilize for all of their car

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storage for their inventory.
Um we are in the process of site

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planning Town of Brookhaven.
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the zoning is appropriate.
So, it will be granted in some form but

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we're very confident that that gives us
plenty of room for our our car storage.

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The other important part of that is that
there will be no car carriers delivering

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new cars to the site.
So, you won't have the same problems

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that
we all know happens with car dealers in

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that sometimes especially on 112 I've
heard

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that they go to the median and drop off
the cars and disrupt traffic that other

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dealers do not this one.
So, there will be none of that. If

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somebody wants to see a specific car
that is not located on the lot and they

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want to have
There is a a It's going to be a prep and

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storage facility. There will be
employees there. It's a phone call.

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We'd like you to bring the red Honda
Accord Hybrid down for a customer. They

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jump in the car and they will drive car
and it'll just be like any other

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passenger car coming down. There'll be
no car carrier on 112 to supply us.

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Let's see. I
With regard to the uh

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the parking variance with the number of
parking stalls.

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Um I think you had a similar hearing
with the former partner Al Silverpoint a

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while ago. Uh so
the village code of the Village

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Patchogue does not make differentiation
between different types of uses with

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regard to parking. It's one per 150 sq
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and not making differentiation for

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different types of uses. In this case
most towns have different formulas for

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different types of uses that range upon
the impacts that they've seen over past

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history.
Um the closest comparison I'll make is

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Town of Brookhaven because obviously it
abuts the Village Patchogue. Uh and in

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Town of Brookhaven the parking code for
car dealerships is one stall per 1,000

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sq ft.
And uh also an additional stall at one

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per 300 sq ft for employees.
Uh so this would mean if we were under

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the Town of Brookhaven code there would
be a base of 12 stalls under that

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1,000 one per 1,000.
Um because it's an 11,000 sq ft building

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two stories.
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plus an additional 37 and 1/2 stalls
for the employees at the ratio of one

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per 300 ft.
And that would be 47 or 48 stalls

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depending on whether you want to round
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We all know
we all round up when it's

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uh when it's to the benefit of the
village or the town.

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Still we're providing 46 stalls.
So under the Brookhaven Town bill the

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code we would have a very minor
variance.

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Um
and even if we didn't count the 12

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displaced stalls which we obviously
will be counting but again there's no

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differentiation in the village code. Uh
that would be we would still have 36

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stalls where 46, which would be
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less than a 30% variance.
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so we think that under the circumstances
and type of use we have that

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the the the relaxation with the number
of stalls and the percentage is in

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keeping with
the type of uses that we see on an

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everyday basis.
Uh under the village code code, the base

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would be 75 stalls with an additional 30
for peak employment.

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Uh
so it drives to a 105 total stalls.

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Uh this would be a 56% variance, which
uh based upon prior uh hearings, it

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would appear to be within the range of
what the board has either previously

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felt comfortable with, uh although they
did not grant it on the prior

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application. It was within the decision
itself that they thought that if we

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blocked off a certain amount of square
footage to arrive at 56%,

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uh that the board viewed this more
favorably.

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Um
again, further

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the
town code and other codes don't

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necessarily take into account a
dealership without service.

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This is a very unique situation where it
will be only sales and no service.

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now I want to talk about the specific
with regard to the employees here

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because I think that's an also a very
important consideration when talking

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about parking variance.
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in reality, there'll be 25,
approximately 25 people stationed at

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this particular site.
And there are shifts, and it will

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rarely, if ever, you'll ever see 25
people there at the same time as

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employees.
They have uh 12 sales people,

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four managers on different shifts,
five office staff that will be there

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Monday to Friday
with one person of the office staff

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coming in on Saturdays. And then they
have four BDC staff, which is the the

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scheduling, uh
calling to the scheduling people to come

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in to
either view a car or, more likely, to

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actually do their purchase. When they
come in and do all the paperwork, and

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they're they sign documents and they
actually purchase the vehicle.

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So, that that's 25 total.
Spoke to client today, he said, "More

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likely than not,
it'll be 20 or less on

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any particular time basis other than
maybe a shift change where you might

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have them for a very short period of
time together."

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Let's see.
With regard to uh special permit,

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special exception, um
it's the the use is permitted in this

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zoning district.
Uh it's not going to uh

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prevent reasonable use of neighboring
properties. I would note for the record

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that
immediately behind this property, it's

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very unusual set of circumstances. To
the south and on Montauk Highway,

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there's a commercial center. Uh
looks like about seven or six retail

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spots with the parking in front.
They actually own a strip of land about

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60 ft wide
going north and south all the way up

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to the North Roadway.
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that is
part of their commercial property.

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And they've actually fenced off
the portion of that property immediately

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behind this property. So, immediately to
the west, there's a fence from that

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property owner and then a fence going
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Up here.
Sorry.

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Get you oriented with east and west. Um
so, that there's also a fence going this

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way east-west and a fence on this way
going east-west. So, it is kind of it's

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it's completely isolated and fenced off.
And as I said, it's in the title owner

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of the commercial property to the south.
So, there's really no residential

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neighbors immediately to the our rear.
>> So, it's not moving more west closer to

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the the residence over on
>> No, we are holding our property line.

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Our site plan stays exactly where the
Long Island fence

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» Okay.
>> development ends.

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» Okay.
>> Um

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It's within the character of the area.
There's already fellowship across the

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street, which we talked about if needed.
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We've worked with DOT with regard to
traffic and we're very close to having a

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curb cut highway work permit done. Most
of the technical aspects are are

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adhered to.
If you want our traffic consultant to

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talk about that further,
happy to do so.

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Um in this case, we've talked to the
village already. The

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Long Island Advance building is serviced
by septic.

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They're private owned.
We are proposing to hook up to the

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Village of Patchogue sewage treatment
plant. There's ongoing discussions

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between our site engineer and the
village engineer with regard to that.

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Um again, there is uh
no repairs going to occur on this

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property. So, won't be any
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materials produced, any noxious odors.
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It's going to close at normal business
hours.

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So, there won't be any nighttime noise.
Uh you're right on 112. Uh

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See what else.

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I think that based upon the evidence
that we provided that uh we have more

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than adequate parking for the site.
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not going to be any uh
This The building will be a

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state-of-the-art building. It will have
to be built

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uh pursuant to the 2026 International
Building Code. They just passed a new

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version of that.
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the drainage will have to be in
accordance with all village

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uh
requirements.

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Uh
Again, we shrunk the uh footprint of the

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building and the overall size of the
building, so there will be less crowding

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less crowding of land.
Uh and the plot area is sufficient for

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our use.
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As far as our knowledge, there's no
church, school, theater, or recreational

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area anywhere in the vicinity. And
certainly none that would be impacted by

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this.
Uh

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That covers all of the criteria with
regard to the special permit. And uh we

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would ask that you grant the
application. I'm happy to answer any

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questions that you may have.
>> Thank you, Tim. Thank you for your

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presentation.
Couple of thoughts here. One, what is

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happening to you the dealership across
the street?

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» So, I know what's coming up, but I
figured I'd let you ask the questions.

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Um
so, the dealership across the street is

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uh
right now undergoing a site plan. That

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is going to be
for repair

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and used car storage. Okay? So, there
will be used cars stored there.

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Hopefully, Allison will be here the next
hearing. She just had a conflict

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tonight, so I had to cover.
>> Uh And where's used car sales?

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» So, there There's one person on the used
car lot, maybe two,

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that out of those same 12. And they have
the same 12 people.

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Uh so that people don't ever have to
come back and forth. If somebody comes

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in
>> That's what we're worried about, back

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and
>> That's

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from the last hearing, from the looking
at everything, we knew that that was a

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major issue. And that we In fact, we
talked to Klein Brothers today, so that

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if there's somebody that says, I want a
used car, they're going to stay there.

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If they say, "Hey, I I really would like
a a new car." They can actually look on

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the computers at at the repair shop and
try and pick something out. If perchance

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they wanted to
uh uh see one of those cars, we would

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bring it from
the new car dealership

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to the used car dealership. But it
again, it it's going to be a very

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minuscule amount.
Um we don't anticipate that there'll be

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a lot of that uh
that kind of thing cuz you you really if

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you find if you want to come and get a
new car, you made a plan.

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You know, you you kind of know what you
want. You're going to the to the

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dealership. So, those people
that are going to be shopping for new

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cars are going to go directly to the new
car dealership.

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Um
>> Okay. And then this application is only

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concentrating the 20 Methuen Ave.
>> This is only for 20.

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» Has nothing to do with Clearview or the
last or anything anything like that?

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» No.
>> Okay.

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» No.
>> Any good questions on the board?

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One?

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Oh, I'm sorry.
>> I have a question.

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» Oh, switch your mic.

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» I can't even say the right name.

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» Testing.
>> Yeah, thanks.

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» You failed, Faith.

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» Uh a question about the used car car
dealership. Would that be like a Honda

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certified Toyota?
>> It will it will be mostly Honda

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certified. They will take other the
Be honest, I bought a I bought a new

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Honda.
And but I traded in an older car, a

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different car. So,
uh

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yeah.
So, if they will take a trade-in.

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» But they're associated with each other
as one company.

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» Yeah. Yes, and and it will be
the same owners.

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» And it is the same people.
>> It will still be Baron.

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Both sides.
It'll be Baron.

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So, you'll have somebody to point the
finger at if you ever have a problem.

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And Carol has my phone.
She knows how to get me.

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» Okay.
Any other questions from members of the

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board? Mr. Lamstein.
>> Um the 11,251

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square feet that we're using for the
parking calculation.

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» Yes.
>> That's the ground floor area, correct?

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» No.
The uh the footprint is about 7,000

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square feet, a little more than 7,000
square feet. I was doing the rough math

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earlier today.
It's 92 by 75, and then there's a little

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out, which would be 6,700 square feet.
That's the main part, and there's a

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couple of little out jogs, which I
estimate can't be a total of more than

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300. So, the 11,000 also includes the
second floor office space.

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» Okay, cuz the uh site plan C301
indicates that it's the ground floor

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area, the GFA.
>> That's gross floor area.

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» That's gross floor area. That's the
entire building. That's not the gross

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» Gross. Okay, got it. Got it.
Just making sure.

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» You got to be scared there for a second.
>> You looked confused.

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Okay, we're good. Okay, so gross.
>> Yes.

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» All right, got it.

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» I think that was pretty good.
>> Yeah.

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» Any other questions from members of the
board?

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Let me folks, excuse us one second.
Any member of the public who would like

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to speak for or against this
application?

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You better state your name and address.

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What's your name?
>> Hi. So, I just said want to clarify. So,

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this strip of land
that was this which which was a

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disputed not too long ago on another
another application. That's not

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» impacted by at all.
And I recall that the A&E Auto strip

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because that's what A&E Auto had to do
back in the day. I think it was 1980 or

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81.
>> Okay.

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» And that piece goes from that shopping
center all the way to Oakwood.

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» Right. Right.
>> No, it's not part of this covenant.

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» Okay. So, this
>> The covenant is in it. And A&E Auto had

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to do that at the time, by the way.
>> Right. I was just saying although it's

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tempting to think they could be
they could solve some of these issues. I

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remember Mr. Russo saying you know,
along with the covenants.

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» Well, there was John Russo with me then.
That was to protect the people on that

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back street, Grove Avenue. They were
concerned. They Remember they they

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didn't want to see the lights.
You know, and everything else. So, uh

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» Okay. So, this
>> Yeah, they got to keep that buffer.

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» So,
they have 46 spots seven of this and

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they need how many actually under the
law?

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» According to the Drake Village parking
lot code

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8105.
>> Which is a what? 50

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» 52.
>> Okay. So, traditionally that's not a

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figure that the board has just handed
out to any applicant in the past that

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I'm aware of.
>> Yep. Not at all.

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» Um
However, you know, let's go back to the

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Waverly Avenue
application.

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There, if I can get this correct in my
mind, the traffic engineer both the

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independent one and the one from the
applicant

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was able to prove
that even though their numbers were

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high, actually
the

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parameters of the law
>> All right.

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» So, my question here would be, does that
exist in this application? So, we have

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» You're probably going to ask the traffic
engineer to at least collaborate that.

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Okay.
But,

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uh what they are saying and their
discussion and what they put on the

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record was is that
in the town of Brookhaven,

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they are real close
to what this building required if it

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wasn't a village code and we would adopt
the town code, the relief, if any, would

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be minimal.
>> Right.

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» So, the town feels that the the piece
works.

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Just our code, that's what we do.
>> Right. That's we're not in the town.

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» We're not in the town. We are the
village.

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» The village of Patchogue.
So, just keep that in mind.

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All right. So, that's That's my only
thinking about this is if if we get be

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consistent with that decision and get
some information that this actually

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meets it, somehow does fit the
requirements, and you can give them 52%

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or whatever it is,
>> Yeah.

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» then it makes sense because obviously it
looks like they have a nice building.

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Um
the improvement is usually

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um so, there's there's nothing really to
object to say in that sense.

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And it's that much of much of the
traffic engineer.

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» Yeah. Um we're going to get that
clarified. But, thank you. Thank you for

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that job.

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Any other member of the public who would
like to speak for or against the

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application?
>> Well,

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» Mr. Shave, you can just come up and if
you can bring the Do you have a traffic

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gentleman with you?
>> No, absolutely. And apparently he has

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parking for the meeting. I forgot to
hand in that he can hand

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» Here you go. Thank
Correct corroborates that.

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» Well, at least we claim it corroborates
what we said.

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» You can hand that and we can take
Unless you want a job here, too.

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» I need the exercise.
>> If you could so nice to state your name

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and address for the record.
>> Sure.

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Ethan Cikowsky
with TPD Engineering, offices at 275

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Broad Hollow Road, Melville, New York.
>> Welcome.

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» Thank you.
Uh

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so yes, we did do a a traffic and
parking study at uh for the subject

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development, specifically for this
application at 20 Bethpage Avenue.

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Um

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Specifically as it relates to the
parking, uh

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I will first of all collaborate with
uh

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uh Mr. Shay said about the town code. I
looked into those areas myself and and

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and agree with everything that he said.
Uh but we also look at when we do

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traffic studies, we look at the actual
parking demand for any given use. Uh as

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he as you may know, um we typically use
the Institute of Transportation

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Engineers uh parking generation manual.
Uh they publish parking generation

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studies uh conducted uh for a variety of
uses.

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We use that empirical data to uh
uh project what uh the parking demand

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would be at any given use.
Uh

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For this, we look at land use code 840,
automobile sales new. Uh we found that

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for the size of this particular center,
it would be um

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a peak demand of 26 parked cars uh
really at the midday.

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Um
you know,

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it's a dealership, so people are going
in the afternoon, on their lunch breaks,

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and you know, on Saturdays. We closer to
the midday on Saturday or the weekend.

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Um
We find that reduces the traffic demand

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on the
uh commuter peak hours, the morning and

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evening peaks compared to other users,
uh especially the the current use, which

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is a office building, and it's going to
have a peak traffic demand uh during

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this commuter peak hours. Um
So so based on our research and and

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reviewing the the data published by the
Institute of Transportation Engineers,

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we find that there's sufficient parking
on site

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to accommodate the demand, especially
given that there's no auto service

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facilities at this particular location.
Many of the studies do that point

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recently.

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Happy to answer any questions.
>> Yeah, and if it's not a purview of this

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board, the in the egress, you know, the
in and the out type of thing.

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» Yes.
>> But you don't feel that there'll be any

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increased traffic as a result of this?
Uh it's going to be everything or every

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bit of what the
office building does now.

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» Correct. And actually, we in our
calculations, we found a reduction in

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traffic for those those peak hours in
the morning, the commuter peak hours,

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you know,
morning and evening. It's actually less

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traffic. You just have a few employees
coming in for their shift. And those,

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you know, customers are coming more in
the afternoon hours.

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Um
We also have

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uh
uh submitted the official New York State

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Department of Transportation cuz they is
their purview, the the curb cuts there.

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Uh they don't have any issue with our uh
redesign of of the curb cuts. We're

443
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,440
working out some technical comments
about the permitting

444
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:06,880
and the type of pavement to use, that
sort of thing. But

445
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:10,840
but no concern from the OIT.
>> Got you.

446
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:15,040
Any questions from the board?
Reasonable.

447
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,400
Mhm.
No.

448
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,440
» All right.
>> Thank you. I thank you for your time. I

449
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,560
appreciate it.
>> Appreciate it.

450
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,560
» Yes.

451
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,000
Any other questions from members of the
board?

452
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:31,080
» I just want to clarify.
>> Go ahead, please.

453
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:35,920
» Um I know the parking variance
uh you guys are saying you're providing

454
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:40,440
46 stalls. I just want to point out that
there's 12 more in addition to that for

455
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:45,600
the vehicles that are part of the
showroom, right? So, there technically

456
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:48,000
there's 58 spaces really on the site.
>> Yes.

457
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,840
» Correct? I just want to clarify with
that part of it. So, it the

458
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,120
» You kind of looking at the way it was
laid out.

459
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:57,160
» Yeah, the way it was worded worded out
and like it was the other way. I just

460
00:30:54,280 --> 00:31:02,040
wanted to clarify that it was 50 Yeah,
58 spaces. So, the 46 50.

461
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:07,960
» Thank you for the clarification.
Mr. Boyd?

462
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:10,480
Any other comments from the public?
Johnson?

463
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,080
» No, no questions.
>> Anything else you have to say?

464
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,960
» No.
>> Take a motion on the applications.

465
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,880
Ms. LaMonte?
>> I make a motion that we close the

466
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,360
application and move it to our decision.
>> Motion made by Ms. LaMonte to close the

467
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,920
application, seconded by Mr. Stein. All
in favor? Aye. Anyone opposed? So

468
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,120
closed. Thank you, gentlemen.
>> Thank you.

469
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,840
» Glad to be of help.
You as well.

470
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:54,040
Okay, on the adjourned applications.
26-10.

471
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:57,160
Carlos Carlos Formella, 65 Maple.
Is the applicant or any representative

472
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:02,640
thereof?
No?

473
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:07,040
Take a motion on adjourning 26-10.
>> Mr. Chairman, I move to leave the

474
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:09,880
adjourned application 26-10.
>> Repeat that motion, please.

475
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:14,000
» First of all, we're meeting.
>> Motion made to

476
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,760
adjourn 26-10 to a September meeting,
seconded by Mr. Meade.

477
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:22,400
I first by Mr. Stein, seconded by Mr.
Meade. All in favor? 26-10 is moved.

478
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:28,880
26-13.
Messiah Julia, 26 Shore Road.

479
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Uh is Messiah Julia or a representative
thereof here?

480
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,520
No?
Take a motion on the application.

481
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:38,240
» Mr. Chairman, I move to leave the
adjourned application 26-13 to our

482
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:43,120
September meeting.
>> Motion by Mr. Stein, seconded by Mr.

483
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:48,920
Megs. All in favor? I. Motion approved.
Okay, only leaves one left. We're good.

484
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:52,720
The next application will be 2618, AB
Management Group.

485
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:56,920
Doing business as Stereo Garden, 9
Railroad Avenue, speaks a special permit

486
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,880
renewal.
Where night club cabaret used to port

487
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,840
3541A1.
Subject premises in the T3 zone.

488
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,040
» How are you?
>> Thanks for having us.

489
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,480
» Welcome. See you again and
now we wait for certificates, right? Do

490
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,280
you have them?
>> I have them right here.

491
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,280
» All right, there we go.

492
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:30,200
Great, have them. Thank you.
>> All right, so good.

493
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,200
Thank you.

494
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:39,040
» And if you'd be so kind as to state your
name and address to the record.

495
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:44,280
» My name is Juan Carlos Novarro for AB
Management DBA Stereo.

496
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:47,680
» Juan Carlos, okay.
And you are?

497
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,880
» I'm Paula Novarro.
>> Welcome.

498
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,120
Okay.
Now,

499
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:58,800
so you have a special permit now for a
night club and a cabaret.

500
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,880
» Correct.
>> Tell us why you think we should do the

501
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,680
renewal.
>> Well, we've been here for 7 years and

502
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:11,960
and we've we've had a almost
excellent clean record with almost every

503
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:16,320
aspect of either fish PC, PSA,
SLA,

504
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:20,320
even even members of our own community
have letters of recommendation there

505
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:25,639
that support us, that
love being us there. We feel like we

506
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:30,560
contributed a lot to the actual village.
I think we're you know, we're we run a

507
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:34,480
very clean operation. I also brought the
head of my consulting security with me

508
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:38,480
that can also go over all the new
policies. procedures that we we have

509
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,520
been doing for the past year and moving
forward.

510
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:45,440
Um
you know, we we're not a we're not

511
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:50,080
young promoters. You know, we're
business people that are invested in the

512
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:53,560
city, in the town. We own the Flores
building next door. We have another

513
00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:57,520
house in the village. So, we're
committed to the town. Um so, we have

514
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,400
every
intentions of seeing it grow and and and

515
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:06,240
and not bringing
uh you know, the improper crowd to the

516
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:09,000
town. So, that's where where we're very
into it with our business. We're there

517
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:14,040
every day.
Um we work our events.

518
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,000
Me and my wife, almost 90% of our events
we're always there.

519
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:21,200
Um we do tons of banquets for the
community also, not just for that. And

520
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:25,320
helped would help with the with the
nightclub, we're able to do a lot of

521
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:29,280
special events for
uh charity events also that we do a lot

522
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,760
of also in in our place. Um which we
take great pride in. And she sits on the

523
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,160
board
uh for a couple of other um

524
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,920
events that we do in with special needs
kids. And what you know, we're we're

525
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,880
we're we're into it with the with the
community. So, we have an invested

526
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:45,160
interest in here. So, we're we're doing
a good job and I feel that we should be

527
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:49,160
able to renew our license. We have uh
a a good clean record and we're very

528
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:55,160
proud cuz we work hard for it.
>> Now, if I think goes back into time, you

529
00:35:51,480 --> 00:36:00,840
do know that this used to be Emporium.
They operated as a nightclub every day.

530
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:05,160
We don't operate as a nightclub every
day.

531
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:09,760
We do concerts. We do special events. We
do banquets. So, we would like to keep

532
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:15,800
our license.
However, we do not

533
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:21,600
do what Emporium did or what Stereo
Garden. We purchased the name Stereo

534
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:23,680
Garden 7 years ago. Stereo Garden was
before

535
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:29,000
um
so, it is very different and it's run

536
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:33,000
very differently. Back then, they needed
that license to function on an everyday

537
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,240
because that's who they brought to the
village.

538
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:40,480
We're very different.
>> Uh

539
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:45,080
Juan and Paula
What you have now is a nightclub

540
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,760
and a cabarets.
>> Correct.

541
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:51,920
» All right.
So, we as board members would assume

542
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:56,200
that that's that quiet night.
You're going to a nightclub. You're

543
00:36:53,520 --> 00:37:00,440
going to a cabaret.
Maybe there's a

544
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:04,160
a band of some sort, a singer. People
are relaxing. Things are good.

545
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,360
Things like
the martial arts. Is that held in your

546
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,280
building?
>> Yes.

547
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:15,400
» Yes.
>> We I am part owners of Flex Fights that

548
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:19,920
we do about 20 shows around the country.
We also got picked up by Syndicated in

549
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:25,120
all of Latin America. It is an MMA
company that we do the events there and

550
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,320
we also do Strong Island Fights, which
is amateur boxing there that we do for

551
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,880
children.
>> For children. Also, they come in and

552
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,240
little kids that don't want to want to
be pro, they start in the amateur

553
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,160
amateur world. We do a lot. It's a
family event. It's a family event. Okay.

554
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:41,080
Yeah.
>> They're all ages. So, there's children

555
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,600
» I'm just going to read one letter. This
is We have several here.

556
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:48,000
» Yes.
>> Uh this is dated May 22nd, 2026. You

557
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,880
know, ladies and gentlemen of the
Patchogue Village Zoning Board.

558
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,200
My name is Christopher Sciarra. I'm the
director of the Patchogue Ambulance

559
00:37:53,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Company. I'm writing to you today
concerning the ongoing issue Patchogue

560
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:03,480
Ambulance is having as 9 real weather.
On several occasions over the last 3

561
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,360
years, Stereo Garden has hosted mixed
martial arts fighting tournaments.

562
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:11,240
Currently, for these fights to take
place, they must have two ambulance

563
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:15,480
crews on standby. One for the fight and
one to transport any fighters that the

564
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:19,120
fight doctor determines must go to a
hospital. As far as the Patchogue

565
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Ambulance is aware, there have been
three of these fights in the last 3

566
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:26,760
years, all of them on Saturday nights.
With two of these fights, neither Stereo

567
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Garden nor Flex Fights promoter Flex
Fights informed the ambulance company

568
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:35,360
that these events were occurring. And
further, they contacted outside EMS

569
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,640
agencies to stand by for these fights.
However, they did not arrange for

570
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,240
transport ambulance or advise Patchogue
Ambulance that these fights were

571
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:44,800
occurring.
The result on both the cases were the

572
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:50,440
fighters needed to be transported
transported. The standby EMS crew called

573
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:54,520
911. We were all obligated to respond to
Nitro after a trauma

574
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,400
injury and transport these fighters to
the hospital.

575
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,920
At the most recent event, the promoter
originally contacted us to do the

576
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:05,640
transport, but then canceled
uh the request a week prior to the

577
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:10,520
event. As a result, we canceled our
standby. And when the fight began, we

578
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:14,240
were called to respond via 911, which
stretched our district coverage for

579
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,960
Saturday night.
As you are surely aware, Patchogue

580
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,880
Ambulance is always very busy on
Saturday nights. These events stretch

581
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:24,920
our resources, and we become easily
overwhelmed if we are not prepared.

582
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,160
Uh if we've been notified of these
events

583
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,800
events in advance, we would have
arranged for standby and a transport

584
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:36,240
ambulance. Since this is very non a
for-profit event, we would have charged

585
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,880
a nominal fee that is commensurate with
the

586
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:43,480
local EMS standard practice policy.
The chiefs and the board of directors of

587
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,440
the Patchogue Ambulance company feel
that Stereo Garden

588
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:52,960
or the promoter Flex Fights must notify
us no less than 2 weeks prior to any

589
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:56,040
future fight events, so we can ensure
that there is adequate EMS coverage for

590
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,600
the event
for the rest of our protection district.

591
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:03,720
Should they choose to hire their own
standby transport ambulances, we must

592
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,640
likewise be advised of who will be
providing the coverage.

593
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,760
Any assistance you can provide
to the uh to the business to cooperate

594
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,800
with us for any future fighting events
is greatly appreciated.

595
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:18,040
All right. So, this is the thoughts
now uh

596
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:21,280
Patchogue Ambulance.
>> That is uh 100% correct.

597
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,720
» Okay.
>> And that one was addressed on the last

598
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,600
event which I was not aware of because
we always dealt with the same

599
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:32,880
uh company that we always dealt with.
>> And we hired medicine.

600
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:36,280
» And now we have hired a company that's
called medicine and that place is that

601
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:41,880
they are the ones who are strictly
ambulance provider and they almost they

602
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:45,960
like uh a wholesaler for ambulances. So,
what they do is that they go into towns

603
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,960
and they lock up if you're having a
event at Master Square Garden, they

604
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:53,680
supply to that event. Here they supply.
So, now they are taking and uh

605
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:57,760
coordination on it and he is in contact
with um with her also. He met her that

606
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:02,120
night there and to make sure that that
never happened again because that was it

607
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:05,920
it jams us up because what happens, I'm
not sure if you understand why this is

608
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:09,880
not good for us either, is it that the
show cannot start again

609
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,360
if there's not a second ambulance on
site.

610
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,080
» It's frozen.
>> It's we freeze. So, the So, that

611
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:20,360
ambulance leaves, goes to Stony Brook
because for whatever reason, the whole

612
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:24,160
show is on standby. It stops and then we
also have airing rights that we are have

613
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,920
pay-per-view shows that are time
commitment so that jams us all up and

614
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,520
you know, tremendously. So, when we had
this issue,

615
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:35,080
we tried to nip it 100% and then and we
hired another company that's doing that.

616
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,440
» Okay.
>> Because the time is

617
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:44,680
I'm sorry to finish is 11:00 p.m.
And so, we want to finish the whole show

618
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:48,200
by 11:00 p.m. So, when that ties it
back, it delays us a little bit.

619
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,160
» Okay.
Uh if you would indulge me, I just want

620
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:55,480
to read these next two into it and then
we'll go over everything, okay?

621
00:41:53,360 --> 00:42:01,200
Uh the next one is from a Tiffany
Spiffy, it looks like August 17th, 2026.

622
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,880
To whom it may concern, and I'm sure it
could be the

623
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,280
uh Patchogue Village Johnny Got the
Feels. I'm writing as a resident of the

624
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,920
Village of Patchogue to respectfully
express my concerns regarding the

625
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,880
renewal of the Summer on the Green
permit and the impact that its late

626
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,800
night events have had on those of us who
live in the surrounding neighborhood. I

627
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,800
want to begin by saying that I
understand and support the importance of

628
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:25,560
local businesses being able to operate
and succeed in our community. My concern

629
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,960
is not with Stereo Garden simply
conducting business, rather it's with

630
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:34,200
the late night noise and disturbances
associated with some of its events,

631
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,280
particularly during work and school
week.

632
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:41,600
The noise and activity associated with
Stereo Garden continued into the very

633
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:45,920
early morning hours. This includes loud
music as well as patrons outside

634
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,800
yelling, arguing, creating disturbances
as they leave the establishment.

635
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:53,040
Unfortunately, once an event ends, the
disruption does not necessarily end with

636
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,880
it.
Residents are still affected by the

637
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:00,520
activity taking place outside and
throughout the surrounding neighborhood.

638
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,960
For many of us, Sunday through Thursday
are work and school nights. Some

639
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,760
residents must wake up early
to go to work and families have children

640
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,720
who need to wake up for school. I
personally have a significant commute to

641
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:14,600
work and need to be able to sleep at a
reasonable hour to safely travel and

642
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:18,280
perform my job.
Being kept awake in the early morning

643
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,760
hours creates a very real hardship. For
that reason, I respectfully ask the

644
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:26,000
board to consider placing reasonable
restrictions on Stereo Garden's permit.

645
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:30,040
Ideally, the nightclub style events
should not take place Saturday Sunday

646
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,880
through Thursday. However, if events are
permitted on those nights, I think they

647
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:38,680
should be required to end no later than
midnight with appropriate measures in

648
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:42,320
place to ensure music and that.
I'm not asking for unreasonable

649
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:47,040
restrictions on a local business. I'm
asking for reasonable balance between

650
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:51,440
business and the right to people who
want to live peacefully, enjoy their

651
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:55,240
homes, sleep, and raise their families.
There is more here. I'm just going to

652
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:58,560
sign that off as uh
sincerely Tiffany Gonzalez and enter it

653
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:03,560
into the record.
But there is a concern, which we will

654
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,560
discuss in a few moments.

655
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:10,920
The next letter
is from a Chelsea Wallace.

656
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,800
I'm sorry?
Okay, great.

657
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:18,760
Uh it's made out to the Patchogue
Village Board of Trustees, uh to the

658
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,200
mayor and members of the Village Board,
and now I guess to the CBA. I'm writing

659
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,640
to respectfully oppose to be able to
grant permit to operate. I understand

660
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,960
the property may have certain
grandfather rights in the Stereo Garden

661
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:33,440
as previously permitted to operate at
this location. However, I respectfully

662
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,960
ask the board to consider how the
business operates today and whether its

663
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:42,080
current operations consistent with
representation paid to the village and

664
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:45,320
the public when the business began
operating.

665
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:49,080
In 2018,
the village expressed a strong expansion

666
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:53,400
of nightclubs in Patchogue because of
legitimate concerns involving public

667
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,920
safety, violent drunk driving, noise,
and the impact of late-night

668
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:01,880
uh nightlife on surrounding
neighborhoods. Based on my experience

669
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:06,040
living near Stereo Garden, its current
operation raises many of these same

670
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:10,000
concerns. The owners publicly
represented that Stereo Garden is a way

671
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,640
from the traditional nightclub model.
However, the business' own website

672
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:18,440
references compliance with New York
State rules regarding nightclubs. The

673
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:23,120
lease identifies permitted use as a
cabaret or catering event. In my

674
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:27,280
opinion, the way the business operates
is significantly different from the

675
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:30,560
traditional catering or venue. Stereo
Garden currently hosts late-night events

676
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,920
featuring DJs, dancing, and live
entertainment that continue until

677
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:36,400
approximately 3:00 or 4:00 in the
morning.

678
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:40,120
The impact of these events is not
limited to the interior of the building.

679
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:44,160
The music, bass, and vibrations can be
heard felt in nearby homes. The impact

680
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:48,600
on the surrounding neighborhood also
extends beyond the noise. During events,

681
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:52,920
parking becomes a significant problem
with attendees using nearby parking

682
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:57,480
areas and residential streets, including
areas around Railroad Ave in Patchogue

683
00:45:54,720 --> 00:46:00,760
City. After events, garbage, bottles,
and other debris have been left

684
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,440
throughout the neighborhood and my
property.

685
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:10,600
I walk expressed serious disturbances
involving individuals leaving events,

686
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:15,000
including screaming, fighting, property
damage, drug use, and urinating on my

687
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:19,640
property. Attendees have left the venue
intoxicated, played loud music from

688
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:23,280
their vehicles, repeatedly used their
horns to create a disturbances during

689
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,400
the early morning
hours.

690
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,920
I've contacted public safety on multiple
occasions regarding the problems

691
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:33,520
connected to Stereo Garden events. Food
trucks and other late-night food

692
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:38,120
operations have also remained outside
the business after events with activity

693
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:41,640
continuing to the early morning hours.
In my experience, the private security

694
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,840
hired for these events is not
effectively prevented or addressed the

695
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:48,800
problems occurring after people leave
the venue.

696
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:53,720
They are not isolated concerns about a
single event. These are ongoing issues

697
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:57,520
that have affected my family and the
surrounding neighborhood.

698
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,960
I've also attempted to address these
concerns directly. On July 21st, 2026, I

699
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,600
spoke with one of the owners about the
impact these events had on my family and

700
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:10,200
property. I explained that my youngest
child has become scared by the loud

701
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,760
noises and disturbances and has
expressed fear that someone could be

702
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,920
shot. During this conversation, the
owner suggested that I should move out

703
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:21,280
of my home.
The owner also laughed and stated that

704
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:25,800
she should be shot first. I found these
responses disturbing and inappropriate,

705
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:30,680
particularly after I was explaining the
fear and anxiety that these ongoing

706
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:33,440
disturbances have caused my family.
I'm not asking the Village Board to

707
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,160
prevent businesses from operating or
stop legitimate entertainment at the

708
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:41,120
Bell Patchogue. I am asking the Board to
evaluate Stereo Garden based on its

709
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:44,440
actual operation today,
rather than simply the description of

710
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,520
the business when it first received
approval.

711
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,600
A business that regularly operates late
into the early morning hours, features

712
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:55,800
DJs, dancing, creates significant noise
and vibrations in nearby homes, attracts

713
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:58,920
large crowds, creates parking problems,
leaves debris in the surrounding

714
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:03,080
neighborhood that is associated with
repeated disturbances should be

715
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,760
evaluated should be evaluated based on
the actual impact of its operation in

716
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:11,920
the surrounding community. For these
reasons, I respectfully ask that the

717
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:15,480
board deny the Stereo Garden's nightclub
cabaret permit.

718
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:19,720
I have included a separate evidence list
identifying photographs, videos, records

719
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:23,280
and complaints to public safety and
other documentation supporting the

720
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:27,080
concerns described in this letter. I
respectfully ask the board to review the

721
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:31,640
evidence when considering the renewal of
the Stereo Garden's permit.

722
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:35,840
Additional document is a documentation
available on request. The village took

723
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:40,680
action on 2018 because it recognized the
expansion of nightclub activity in

724
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:44,880
negative negatively affect public safety
and the quality of life in community.

725
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:48,440
I respectfully ask the board to apply
the same concern

726
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:52,800
when evaluating the current operation at
Stereo Garden. Respectfully, Chelsea

727
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:57,120
Lyons.
And there's also evidence here that will

728
00:48:54,440 --> 00:49:01,080
be put into the record.
And last but not least,

729
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:09,800
Suffolk County Police Department.
And fairly extensive.

730
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Uh disturbances
uh

731
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:18,200
I mean this
it it's just a lot of stuff going on

732
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:23,000
here for somebody who's just got to go
sit at a small table

733
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:28,040
at a cabaret and have a glass of wine.
So, would you kindly please explain

734
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:32,200
how do we go from
a nightclub cabaret

735
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:39,120
to
martial arts and concerts?

736
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:42,800
» Well, you know, over the past 7 years,
roughly let's say we were doing one

737
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:47,200
event a weekend.
You know, and and of course the year

738
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:52,400
roughly around 350 to 400 events that
we've done in the past 7 years.

739
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:55,280
RSLA records, State Liquor Authority, if
there's any issue with anything, they

740
00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:00,320
would be the first one to come suspend
my license if I had any kind of issues.

741
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,760
Those police reports, a lot of them are
altercations, somebody comes out a

742
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:08,560
little drunk, or somebody trips and
falls, or somebody is having a

743
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:12,720
situation. In every night night
establishment on Patchogue Main Street,

744
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,840
there's going to be situations. And we
try to limit as much as we can. We see

745
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,920
somebody that's overserved, we stop
serving them. If somebody comes in, they

746
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:23,040
look like they're intoxicated, you know,
we have a whole list of procedures that

747
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:28,200
we follow inside our manual that we
have, the bartenders know, our security

748
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:32,480
will has to what we're doing now to to
combat all these issues. And now also,

749
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:36,720
when we also
end the show, we don't end the show

750
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:40,800
abruptly at because we don't want that
flooding into the street. We've made a a

751
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,560
deal with uh fifth precinct about that.
We've also made a deal with the

752
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:48,600
uh the sound safety about that. So, what
we do is that we slowly turn the music

753
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,840
down, we put the lights up, and people
start leaving in an in an orderly

754
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:55,920
manner. Not everybody rushes to the
streets to avoid that cluster, that

755
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,360
noise, and everything that's in the
street. And then also, concerned about

756
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:03,360
the bottles in front, we send a cleaning
crew every night outside of front in the

757
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:07,320
front of our area to clean up every
single debris and bottle and that

758
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,640
situation. So, we do take care of the
front of it. We are very vigilant and

759
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,840
concerned about our neighbors. This is
why on the weekdays

760
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:18,280
I don't know how many how many shows we
don't do any I wish we did, but we don't

761
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,800
do any shows only on a Thursday. And if
we do on a Thursday, we realize that it

762
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,920
has to end by 11:00 12:00 because people
work on Friday. And we don't the Sunday

763
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:29,000
shows that we do end at 12:00 too. We'll
do a day party if that's possible

764
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,600
because we know people work. So, I'm not
sure during the weekends or weekdays

765
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,800
what concern that that individual had
because if you look all of my calendars

766
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:41,600
coming up, we don't have any weekdays
events.

767
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:45,600
Um most of our shows are average between
two to three 400 people. If there's a

768
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:49,160
large uh celebrity, we call them an
A-list celebrity, we'll deal with big

769
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:52,920
pricing, and they will come in we call
them ahead of time they will either

770
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:56,400
close the street off or they will put a
special car in front just to make sure

771
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:00,680
that everything goes smoothly and then
the exit is properly just for example if

772
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:05,040
you want to compare and ask them on the
last one we did this artist called A

773
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:10,480
Boogie is a big time artist he has a lot
over 10 million followers he drawing a

774
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:14,240
thousand people they came in did a great
job

775
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:17,600
people came left had moved out no
incidents no other because the fifth

776
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:21,840
precinct worked with us and we worked
with them there was no altercations

777
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:25,760
outside there was nobody urinating or
any of it but this is what we try to do

778
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,520
with that situation.
>> But the concern here is

779
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,720
the special permit that was granted to
this boy did not say concert or call it

780
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,840
did not say MMA
>> Well that's what the night club is for

781
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:43,360
the night club well let let just say
concert well well let just say it's a

782
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:49,000
it's an especially event venue place we
do events all type of events we'll do

783
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:52,280
» Do we even have the decision
>> Yeah let's see the

784
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:55,000
we want to see the permanent
>> I just want to see the MMA events here

785
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,680
at 12:00
>> That is not that's

786
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,160
» No I I understand that but people don't
go to a cabaret for an MMA event

787
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,800
» Well it's it's
>> No no no no no we're we're altering what

788
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:08,080
this boy originally did
>> it's an event space it's an event space

789
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:12,800
it's a multi purpose event space that
has the capacity of holding special

790
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,440
events like those concerts
>> on your here for renewal of our special

791
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,480
permit
>> Right

792
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:24,440
» I want to see please what the criteria
of that special permit was

793
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,840
» Because Stereo Garden was always a
concert

794
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:32,400
» night club
>> night club always so we are not the

795
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:38,200
inventors of the wheel this wheel was
sold to us there was always concerts

796
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:42,960
concerts have been there forever if you
go back in the records you will find how

797
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:47,320
many artists have performed in Stereo
Garden. Pacha was known

798
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,640
» words, you folks you folks are never
before us for a special permit. No, you

799
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,720
were.
>> No.

800
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,800
» Interesting.
>> So you're just going off of what they

801
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,120
were doing
>> Yeah, but our our permit's usually 4 or

802
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,080
5 years. How long have you owned this?
Seven

803
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,840
» Seven years.
>> By God, our permit the the largest that

804
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:07,480
ever permit special permit I ever
granted was 5 years.

805
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,680
» No one has came from the town at all
now.

806
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:13,600
» When I purchased it, they gave me the
papers stating that it was

807
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,720
done. And that No, no, no. This is going
to use it as a practice. This is a

808
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,040
special permit.
>> No, I clearly understand that. Clearly

809
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,840
understand that.
>> But this is this In other words, this

810
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:25,560
time was the first time someone came up
to us. If there was something that we

811
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,320
needed to do and renew, the town never
came to us

812
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,440
» Well, we would have Please don't say
town. This is the village. Yeah. It's

813
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:34,520
the village. Yeah. So, the first we
heard of it, we immediately addressed

814
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:39,160
it. And this is why we're here.
>> That's exactly why we're here. But if we

815
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:44,160
go back in time, you will see that
there's constant that were even before

816
00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:50,040
like since Emporium was I would even
before Emporium where Knights of

817
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:54,720
Columbus was. So it's never changed. You
know, so the the idea that you're saying

818
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:59,080
that, you know, you sit down, have a cup
of wine, and it's it's always been a

819
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:04,200
concert. We have a professional stage
and sound system. That's how come I know

820
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:07,320
that the sound it it is
inside the building.

821
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,440
» All right, let me just see what counsel
says here.

822
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,360
Yeah, what was it granted to, by the
way?

823
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,000
» Stereo Garden.
>> Us.

824
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,720
» BFG Entertainment.
>> That's who you purchased it from.

825
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,720
» Mhm.

826
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,600
» And this was in 2017.
>> Correct.

827
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:37,080
» What was the the term for
>> I kept the council's reading it there.

828
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:52,800
» These are the same.
>> So, what what did this board agree with?

829
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:57,320
Cuz I can't find anything else.
Okay. Okay.

830
00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:02,200
Yeah, it looks like the minutes.
Can I at least get the minutes on any of

831
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,200
these? Are they actual decisions?

832
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:08,880
» There's a bunch of stuff like this.

833
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,000
» All right. Let's go back to the clerk
for a minute.

834
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:20,160
» It doesn't define the micro.
I didn't At the time our code defined

835
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,880
the micro. It was
>> So, we go back to the old That was

836
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,640
actually the
>> They doesn't They don't go into details.

837
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:32,960
» Oh, sorry.
>> I have the old code just to look at.

838
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,960
There's a lot of stuff like this.

839
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:41,400
» Well, how about this?
Now, within special permit, pursuant to

840
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:45,560
435-21A1
A 435-21A5

841
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:50,120
and such other applicable provisions of
this village code, shall be a period of

842
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:54,040
1 year
commencing from the date of the

843
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:57,600
application. All right. So, this thing
expired in 2018.

844
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,320
That's on the
We need to talk about the calendar.

845
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,280
» Yeah.
We've sent that out in the last slide

846
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,320
and we didn't get a response, but I
think

847
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,640
we did get a response.
>> Yeah, yeah.

848
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,640
» They did get a response.

849
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:18,600
» Why is there a submission they got to
discuss a little bit?

850
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,000
» We definitely had the deposition cuz
that was an old thing. Yeah.

851
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:28,720
» Well, here's one that says the
submission by the applicant of a

852
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:32,520
schedule of events
giving the village at least 1 month

853
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:36,440
advance notice
of of what they are doing. It says

854
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,440
the first day of each month during the
event period.

855
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,920
» Yeah, nightclub.
>> Wow.

856
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,920
Uh

857
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:48,720
Procedures for handling violent
incidents. It says to drop it says he

858
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,960
has that now.
Establishments receive their patrons in

859
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:56,680
the after.
Okay.

860
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,680
Cameras. Oh.

861
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:03,600
Oh, this is on the inside. No DJs or
live music will be allowed on the patio

862
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:08,960
except with the community-wide downtown
business events approved by the village.

863
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,720
Such as a live after-party.
>> In our town.

864
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:15,320
» We We have no speakers outside our
building. We have nothing outside.

865
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,000
» Yeah, they cut that out.
>> Okay.

866
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,560
» So that other side
>> It's a lot smaller than it was back

867
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:24,800
then. It's a lot smaller than it
>> No, more important. Tell us

868
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,800
Tell us

869
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:33,520
What do you want to do there in keeping
with a cabaret

870
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:37,360
and a nightclub type of thing?
I mean, do you ever open your doors just

871
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,040
for people to come in and have a drink
as a nightclub?

872
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,040
» No.
>> You don't. You're just a special event

873
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:47,840
place.
>> No, we we we open we operate we charge

874
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:52,400
at the door. We We open until 2:00 3:00
in the morning and we have dancing in

875
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:56,160
our facility. So all those are covered
under the cabaret and nightclub.

876
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,120
» Of course.
>> So So you So you do open without an

877
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:03,640
event?
>> No. Only when an event.

878
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:07,200
» So you have to actually You don't open
the doors and say like the rest of

879
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,920
Patchogue, you know, open Thursday and
Friday come on in.

880
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:13,160
» If we don't If we don't have any We
don't have a specific artist coming in

881
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,880
we're not open. We don't have a banquet
or a special event we don't open.

882
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,920
» That's why we don't
>> They're more of a music hall than a

883
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,120
nightclub cabaret.
>> That's exactly it.

884
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,120
» It used to change.
>> Yeah.

885
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:31,720
» But you can certainly
You can certainly see how

886
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,720
you know, it was always a thing.

887
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:38,200
» two 300 people. You understand? And the
wedding might be finished at 11:00 at

888
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,720
night.
>> 12:00

889
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:46,960
That's what happened here. The use has
changed.

890
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:49,480
» We had to grant the special permit. I
don't know about renewing one.

891
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,960
» Right.
>> What was What was the original So,

892
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,040
you're looking at the original special
permit?

893
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,720
» Uh because uh things like
>> uh

894
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,760
events are not
>> What What events like for example?

895
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,800
Well
>> Like events Wait, because everything's

896
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,080
called events.
>> Uh yeah, yeah. Like an MMA event is not

897
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,120
something that
>> That's just That's just special We just

898
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,480
want two shows a year. I mean, that's
that's something that simple that

899
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:16,240
» Whatever it is
>> If you were to say uh Sir Garden cannot

900
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,880
do the event as a part of MMA it'll be a
simple thing to knock off the card.

901
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:22,080
That's not that's not that's not that's
not much of an issue for us.

902
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:25,000
» Why? Because
we want to take the pressure off of

903
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,520
things like the ambulance company.
>> the other complaints that we get.

904
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:31,000
» And we And which the ambulance has been
has been addressing 100% fixed. Because

905
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,680
not only with that
>> I don't know. The letter The letter is

906
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,840
just dated from July. So, I guess
>> Yeah, that was the last event. That was

907
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:40,240
the last event.
>> But and also just Justin, for instance,

908
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:44,120
we also do wrestling.
And they bring a little ring and they do

909
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,960
little people and they and they require
an ambulance also. So, we bring an

910
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,000
ambulance for them.
>> Yeah.

911
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,680
» Oh.
>> Because that's entertainment.

912
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,040
» So So
>> I don't know if that reads.

913
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,400
» That's not That's not
>> They brought it back again.

914
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,880
» The fire is
>> That's it. That's hard to square with

915
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,760
the night club.
>> That's it.

916
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:04,760
» So, we had a definition of night club
back in those days. Right. And it

917
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:08,560
basically is what you would imagine a
night club to be. It has to

918
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:12,520
cover charge, you walk in, there's an
area for dancing, there's an area for

919
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:17,240
the DJ, and yep.
>> We still have We still We We do that. We

920
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:19,560
do that We do that 90% of our events.
So, that's what we do.

921
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:24,160
» In a definition of valid event.
>> Well, I I I I that point I I see the

922
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:27,920
point for the for the combat sports for
the combat sports things, but a lot of

923
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:30,360
» baby showers
Yeah.

924
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:34,280
» Yeah, that's good stuff.
I can see that.

925
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:38,080
» of nightclubs all over Manhattan,
Queens, all of them are doing MMA

926
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:42,000
» multiple
>> sports because that contributes to their

927
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,920
bottom line.
And we And as us come not compared to

928
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:50,160
everyone else on Main Street just
because we have a cabaret and a

929
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:53,600
nightclub license, we can't have any
special

930
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:57,720
liquor insurances. My insurance last
year was over $100,000 to cover my end.

931
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:01,000
No one else on Main Street covers
$100,000 with insurance just to cover

932
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:04,960
the liquor authority, assault and
battery, and everything else that comes

933
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:09,760
along with everything that's done there.
>> And also when you spoken about, you

934
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:14,160
know, everybody, it's really hard, you
know that the village

935
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:19,400
had everybody leaving at the same exact
time between 1:30 and 2:00.

936
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:22,520
It's very difficult for someone to say
that all the people that are leaving

937
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:27,080
Stereo,
but not everywhere else like we had

938
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:32,560
Meatball, like we had everywhere else,
Burgerology. It It is a Everybody leaves

939
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:37,720
the village at that time. Very difficult
for you to say that it's everyone from

940
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:43,160
Stereo that is leaving that is loud.
That is not quite fair to say because at

941
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:47,320
that time I have been outside and I
don't know where all these people coming

942
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:51,160
from. You know, the village has parking,
everybody's going into that back parking

943
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:55,560
lot. Just because that parking lot is
behind our building, doesn't mean those

944
01:02:53,480 --> 01:03:01,560
people are coming. The majority of our
people, specially wedding, are limo,

945
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,400
they're doing buses, you know, we we
have Ubers,

946
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,800
» and the concerts they come they come for
concerts. A lot of we have Uber drop-off

947
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,320
right in front of our place.
>> Uber drop-off is right in front of our

948
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:15,920
facility because we tell people there is
no parking in the village. Please take

949
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:20,000
an Uber. You know, we tried doing it
with the valet, but that didn't work out

950
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:25,680
in the village, we were connected to
him. Now we say, "Please, you know, you

951
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:31,000
need We even have the skew things for
people to take Ubers right out because

952
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:36,200
we we know what the village parking
situation is, but everybody leaves at

953
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:40,960
the same time. So, not fair to say."
>> So, so that Do you Do you Are there ever

954
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,280
like Friday or Saturday nights that they
don't open to

955
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,800
» Oh, no.
>> or have an event?

956
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,640
» Yeah, unfortunately.
>> This Friday and this Saturday

957
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,520
» I'm not rooting
>> Otherwise, we wouldn't be having major

958
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,840
problems.
>> Right. I I I'm not rooting against you.

959
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,240
» I know.
>> I'll give you a I'll give you a quick a

960
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:57,360
quick list.
>> You This Friday This Friday we're not

961
01:03:55,040 --> 01:04:01,320
open. Next Friday we're not open.
>> Right. And that And that backs up the

962
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:04,400
idea that that they Do we have a
definition of a musical in the code

963
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,040
right now?
>> Are you a wedding venue or

964
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:11,400
» We don't.
>> Definition of a wedding singer.

965
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:15,320
» Yeah. Just what I came to ask. Carol, I
said if I could have what license the

966
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,800
other
>> The 89 North House.

967
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:24,000
» working under. And I I couldn't get it
on time, but to me I said, "You know,

968
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:28,920
I'm trying to educate myself on what the
village sees on what the codes are." And

969
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:34,480
I said, "They're operating They're very
similar to what we do. They're a smaller

970
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:38,000
location, okay, on a side street as well
as we are. Well, they're maybe in a

971
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:43,720
little bit more on Main Street like cuz
they want ocean or something." You know,

972
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:50,600
but regard it's it's still very similar.
Sometimes we even have the same artists

973
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:53,800
performing. So, what what license do
they have?

974
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:58,960
» They took 20 minutes to respond, so
>> They took 20 minutes as well. Yes. So,

975
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:03,840
we do So, we do have
that same sort of, you know, vibe if you

976
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:07,000
want to call
>> Should this boy not grant the special

977
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:10,760
permit?
What steps could you take to mitigate

978
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:13,280
what these letters are saying? Like
noise in the neighborhood

979
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:17,400
Things like that.
>> I can bring in Mike. Mike is my security

980
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:21,160
consultant. I know Mike.
We just contracted him for the past 6

981
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,480
months.
And

982
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,840
» And all your regular customers
>> He's a very big guy.

983
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,000
» He's the smallest one. This is the
smallest Mike was able to bring.

984
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:35,480
» They over there double the guys.
>> Mike's company comes highly recommended.

985
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:39,400
They do events
in Montauk now for the question show.

986
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:42,280
They just got picked up by the SPs. So
they're very very very well known in the

987
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,880
security world.
>> Okay. But can he stop the noise into the

988
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,200
neighborhood?
>> He has some sort of

989
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,480
» that that the loud music in the name
>> Well, first of all, there's no loud

990
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,800
music coming out of our location.
>> Okay.

991
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,440
» You I can I can blast my music
100%

992
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,720
» come out of that building.
>> And nothing comes out of that building.

993
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:01,520
It is totally insulated on both sides.
Whoever says they can hear it, that's a

994
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:05,360
pure fallacy.
>> handled that.

995
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:08,120
» Yes. Now, my my neighbors next door,
they have speakers outside. I don't know

996
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,200
what time they close. And my other
neighbor next door, the pizzeria, has

997
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,920
speakers outside. I'm not saying what
they do.

998
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:16,080
» outdoor seating for the customers.
>> But we don't. So I mean I don't know

999
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,920
where they can hear the music from. So
they can hear

1000
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:22,240
» You guys communicate noise. Yeah. And
that he comes out, make sure that the

1001
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,720
noise
>> They have a team.

1002
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,200
» Yeah, nobody is
getting out of line in the neighborhood

1003
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:31,680
cuz they don't need it.
>> Well, we control our block. We control

1004
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:34,720
our area, our block, our our We don't
have a parking lot, but we walk up and

1005
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:38,760
down the street at night time. If
there's an issue, always one person goes

1006
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:43,240
out front door, another person goes out
the back door just because we don't want

1007
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:47,200
no fights happening in the street.
Um and you can attest to more and you

1008
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,640
can look at talk over you, but you can
explain to them a little bit what you

1009
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:53,160
know what we do and how we do it.
>> And the procedures, yeah. Like you know,

1010
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:56,560
when they're coming in and how it works.
>> And your name is, please?

1011
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,040
» My name is Michael Chahales. And I'm the
owner of Four Social Management.

1012
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,840
» Got you.
>> Um I work with a list of different

1013
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:07,640
restaurants and venues as security
consultant. Um some examples I work with

1014
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:12,000
Lessing's Restaurant Group. I work with
Hells Kitchen, I work with Coastal

1015
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:16,080
Verde, and we have joined up with them
and now Stereo Garden as well to provide

1016
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:21,600
a more optimal experience for both the
guests and for the town.

1017
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:24,920
We do everything we can to limit the
liability for them.

1018
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:29,040
We understand that there's a lot of
things that go on in Patchogue town and

1019
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:32,600
it's a lot of liability for the town as
well and a lot of pressure on the public

1020
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:36,520
safety and on the police that are
stationed there. So,

1021
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:39,960
one thing that we do,
we we don't like I said, we don't let

1022
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:44,200
everyone out at the same time.
It's it's a constant flow in and out,

1023
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:47,480
right? At night time, one thing we're
doing is we're limiting No one's allowed

1024
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:51,000
to leave with any garbage or anything
like that. So, that concern

1025
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:54,840
I I don't think that that's fair to
assume that it's us cuz like I said as

1026
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,760
well, there's two other locations that
are we're positioned right in the middle

1027
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,080
of town.
And from my knowledge, I don't think

1028
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:05,040
they have any management or security
body there on the weekends, you know?

1029
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:08,760
So, people could just be walking out of
there with garbage and leaving anywhere.

1030
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:12,200
» No no drinks or cups can leave our
location or bottles. We have two garbage

1031
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:16,960
cans in the back of our building.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So, we're very

1032
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:21,759
preventive with that and just in general
with our measures, we we're very

1033
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:27,680
wary of the town and we want to
contribute to the community to make it a

1034
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:27,680
better experience for the public and for

1035
01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:30,600
» Thank you.
>> Mr. Jackson,

1036
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,080
» Yes.
>> What is the What is your code like to to

1037
01:08:32,839 --> 01:08:39,080
determine how many security guards you
need for a certain event?

1038
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:44,600
» So, we'll do about 50 My my personal
code is I'll do about 50

1039
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:48,520
uh one one security per 50 patrons.
So, from our experience that we've had

1040
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:52,160
the most success with that and we do
that with all different you know, events

1041
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:56,160
and venues.
>> And are all the events pre-sales or

1042
01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:00,200
» Most of ours are pre-sales.
We'll we'll have some we'll have some

1043
01:08:57,440 --> 01:09:03,920
walk-ups. Our very minimum walk-ups. Uh
most of them we'll know the day of of

1044
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:07,120
how many people come showing up.
>> When we first purchased it was a box

1045
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:12,080
office. That's a thing of the past.
Everybody's buying tickets online. Yeah.

1046
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:16,000
» Uh Mr. Chairman,
uh Mr. South,

1047
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:18,240
uh is there a time when you stop serving
alcohol?

1048
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:22,359
» Yeah, we're we're we're a hard cut off
by 2:30 for alcohol always on our side.

1049
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:27,920
» So throughout the throughout the event.
>> Yeah, he'll tell you that I me and her

1050
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:32,200
work our shows and I want to leave as
soon as possible. So most of the times

1051
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:35,680
we'll have an artist perform and with
the promoters we're always just part of

1052
01:09:33,799 --> 01:09:40,600
the standing that we have a hard cut off
at 2:30. The only reason we'll stay open

1053
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:44,160
a little bit later is sometimes we'll
have a deal with another venue that's

1054
01:09:42,759 --> 01:09:48,200
we're splitting the cost of an artist
that's traveling from New Jersey and

1055
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:51,680
he's running late and then he'll come to
our stage and he'll hit the stage at

1056
01:09:49,759 --> 01:09:56,040
2:10, 2:15 and people are here to see
him and it'll run into like 15, 20

1057
01:09:53,839 --> 01:10:00,720
minutes. But we try to hard cut at 2:30
and slowly have everybody out by 3:00.

1058
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:05,600
That is our goal always
if we go that late. But majority of

1059
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:09,640
times if it's slow if it's slow or it's
slowly end up 1:00 or 2:00, 1:00, 1:30.

1060
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:13,760
» I like that automatic.
>> I I I have I mean I want to I appreciate

1061
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:17,480
that the fact that you guys are are
trying to get you know familiar with the

1062
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:20,960
the culture of the village. I'm trying
to work with the with the village in in

1063
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:25,000
every way possible.
However, I it seems like the the

1064
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:29,040
application should be for the special
special permit use instead of like a

1065
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:33,080
renewal
>> Oh, it's a special permit for events.

1066
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:37,480
» For events, exactly.
>> I don't know I saw my this is cabaret

1067
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:40,360
night. I think people
But how does that fall into

1068
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,040
» We'll probably write a new permit.
>> Okay.

1069
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:45,760
» In fact, we really have to get the use
until the other permit expires.

1070
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:50,920
» Yes, that
>> But so how does that fall into the

1071
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,920
dancing and drinking and the charging of

1072
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,160
» You're only open if there's some sort of
entertainment there, is that correct?

1073
01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:00,280
» Correct. Correct.
>> Yeah.

1074
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:05,840
» And then also, how does that tie in to
the state license and also to like our

1075
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:10,800
insurance?
You know, because right now we we have

1076
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:14,160
like a bracket. It's cabaret and night
club. You understand? That's what

1077
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:18,120
» That's what they bill me on.
>> That's what they bill us on. So, if we

1078
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:22,680
change that where you know, it's just
not the the village is everything else

1079
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:27,080
like where do we go on there?
>> Have you Have you talked to your friends

1080
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:30,000
over at 9 North as to like their Have
their insurance as well?

1081
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:34,480
» I mean, I would definitely talk to your
insurance broker because if anything

1082
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:38,080
happened during a fight, I can guarantee
you they're not going to cover if you're

1083
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:42,160
classified
>> They know they have a list of all the

1084
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,560
events that we do.
>> They know they know they know

1085
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:49,160
everything.
>> That's why we pay so much money.

1086
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:51,880
» Yeah, by definition they they
they special permit for for special

1087
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,800
events
has a different definition than the than

1088
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:59,200
the night club.
>> No, it goes under cabaret.

1089
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:04,080
By the village. Yes.
>> Exactly. So, so that that only is the

1090
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:08,400
distinction. That that you should
>> But on there everything else it says

1091
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:12,960
cabaret and night club because all that
the fights all of that is under that.

1092
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,840
Yes.
>> Well, well, that's what we're discussing

1093
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,280
here for the village. Correct? Because
we operate as a village.

1094
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,960
» So,
okay.

1095
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:24,040
Listen, everybody does insurance fraud.
It happens all over. It's not

1096
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:28,120
» Unfortunately,
my my insurance company, they they

1097
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:32,520
insure Madison Square Garden. They
They're strictly just for venues and

1098
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:37,920
night clubs and events. So, that's who
they that we use. Um so, when we consult

1099
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:41,000
on them,
they're also very particular on what

1100
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:44,800
securities we use cuz we have to fit
under their demographics. That's why we

1101
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:47,120
use them. And they consult for us. So,
that's why they are able to handle that

1102
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:50,720
situation.
>> be able to use any of the security

1103
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:53,400
companies that are on Main Street
because they're not covered by assault

1104
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:59,120
and battery.
We have to be. Our companies have to be.

1105
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:02,720
So, any of any of any place in the
village is not covered.

1106
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:06,640
» have requisite for also for the liquor
insurance as well. So, we carry that one

1107
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,440
a much higher than the rest of the as
restaurants. The only issue that we're

1108
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:13,360
having now is a lot of these restaurants
are popping up as as nightclubs in the

1109
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:16,680
area. So, it's it's tainting us and
making us look a little bit that we're

1110
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:20,480
not we're not doing our job, but we're
actually the only ones one of the only

1111
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:25,560
ones in Patchogue that actually carry
the proper credentials to do that in the

1112
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:28,560
contained area. You know, we don't we
don't operate just on a whim or we're

1113
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:30,280
just going to move the doors and move
the chairs.

1114
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,080
» So, the chairs have to be
>> We do this every weekend. That's what we

1115
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,120
do. This is we have the proper
insurances. We have the proper security.

1116
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,880
We have the proper staffing. This is how
we do it every day. We can do it for 7

1117
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:43,200
years. Now, you see some issues with the
fist raising, but every other restaurant

1118
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:47,120
is going to have some of them as well.
But, we don't have a page like this like

1119
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:50,840
Emporium used to have or anyone else cuz
we do things we do things 10 times

1120
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:55,080
differently than they do.
>> Okay, great. Just excuse me 1 minute.

1121
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:59,480
Yeah. Any member of the public would
like to speak for or against?

1122
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:02,040
Just give us a few moments and
thank you.

1123
01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:19,680
» Good afternoon.
>> Good evening.

1124
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:25,280
» So, my name is Allison Morris. You read
my email. I have sent several emails to

1125
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:28,600
our mayor. I've been to meetings several
times for this

1126
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:33,360
business.
Like I said, I'm not against businesses.

1127
01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:37,880
Um
I'm taking it personal that calling me

1128
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:42,360
basically how you don't
see how I can

1129
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:47,920
figure out what bar and what people are
coming from. I live right there.

1130
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:53,920
Listen, I've been here. my family's been
here

1131
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:58,680
since 1940s. I've been in my house
for over 100 years.

1132
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:03,800
I love this village, I've been doing
things to improve it.

1133
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:10,360
This business
is not doing what it says.

1134
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,360
They just BS you.

1135
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:16,520
The garbage
Okay, maybe they do pick it up when it

1136
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:21,600
does come. It's all over. Seagulls are
in it. There has been I've sent

1137
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:26,080
evidence, videos,
um photos of the events.

1138
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,520
» I think it's
>> Sorry. It's in the record.

1139
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:33,720
» Yeah. I'm just very upset about the
whole situation because I've been

1140
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:36,880
dealing with this for 2 years.
I've read what their lease is,

1141
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:41,480
um
since the new bar Side Drive

1142
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:46,840
opened.
Stereo Garden and that bar can't operate

1143
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:51,000
the same nights. So, I know that
when Stereo Garden has an event and when

1144
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:56,880
that bar has an event.
I've been to 89 North.

1145
01:15:53,680 --> 01:16:01,960
Stereo Garden is not at all like that.
In their

1146
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:06,560
paperwork, it does state that they
basically can't have events at the same

1147
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:10,120
time. So, I know and I'm not a stupid
person.

1148
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:13,840
I know when their events are happening.
To the point that me and my family stay

1149
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:18,240
away
because we don't get enough sleep.

1150
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:23,080
My child
literally said, "Mommy, I'm scared.

1151
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:28,760
I feel like someone's going to either
get shot or stabbed because of the

1152
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,760
events that they're having."

1153
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:36,600
Um
I'm glad that they hired a new company

1154
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:40,240
because the company that they did use
didn't care.

1155
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:45,960
Um I actually called that company one
night because of the situation.

1156
01:16:43,480 --> 01:16:50,280
After an event
and they didn't care. I mean, I

1157
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:54,560
literally am sitting on my porch and
they had people out there screaming,

1158
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:57,480
cursing, fighting.
Um

1159
01:16:55,960 --> 01:17:01,600
it's just
it's to the point that I

1160
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:06,520
I get it. You want to have great events,
baby showers,

1161
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:09,160
sweet 16s, perfect. But those things
have time

1162
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:14,400
that they're done.
There is a code to the village. I can't

1163
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:21,080
play loud music after a certain time.
So, why can that? My literally house is

1164
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:27,360
shaking because their music.
We wake up at 3:00 in the morning from

1165
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:34,920
horns, music, vibration, the bass.
It's just so disturbing and literally my

1166
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:39,280
child is scared with some of the events.
I don't know what else to do.

1167
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:43,520
I'm not saying cuz they have it 30 year
lease. I'm not saying, "Hey, move the

1168
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:48,240
business and don't do it."
But they need to follow rules just like

1169
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:53,320
how I need to follow rules.
It's about safety. We don't want people

1170
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:57,280
driving into my house because they're
drunk.

1171
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:02,920
I also know that people from that event,
I'm watching people from their entrance

1172
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:07,560
walk out of their building,
stumbling,

1173
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:11,200
going through the the the court parking
lot and getting in their cars.

1174
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:17,160
I don't know what else to do. I had the
village put a stop sign because all of

1175
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:21,760
them everyone would be stopping at a
stop sign. I had uh

1176
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:26,560
the mayor change South Street parking
because a lot of the people from Stereo

1177
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:31,840
Gardens parking on Railroad and South
Street. Sometimes they do. They're doing

1178
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:36,000
drugs. They're blasting music. Um
they're very rude. I've had people

1179
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:42,080
urinate on my property.
Um it's just the list goes on and on.

1180
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:46,800
So, yes.
Great. I hope that they all visit

1181
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:51,280
succeeds with baby showers, sweet 16s,
but the concerts, the the events is

1182
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:55,000
ridiculous and they should have a
curfew.

1183
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:59,960
That's all I really can say because I
know realistically, I mean, if they want

1184
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:06,360
to have their night life, please go to a
strip free town then

1185
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:10,200
because this is a village and we want
to, you know, we want to have that life,

1186
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:13,640
but we want to feel safe.
Um, like I said, I've been dealing with

1187
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:18,160
this for 2 years. I've emailed the
mayor. I've emailed you guys. I I don't

1188
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:20,600
know what else to do.
>> Okay. We have that in the record now.

1189
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,440
Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1190
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:27,320
» Thank you very much.
Any other member of the public who would

1191
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:29,600
like to speak for or against?
You'll have to state your name and

1192
01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:34,720
address for the record.
>> I will.

1193
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,720
John Budzinski, Texas.

1194
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:40,200
I'm having a city to listen to this and
I have I really have to buy it.

1195
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:44,320
Um
On the one hand, the village promotes

1196
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:48,120
businesses and these kinds of businesses
in particular because

1197
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:52,800
I mean, the village now has a reputation
for entertainment.

1198
01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:57,320
And Stereo Garden and the VFW
and the Knights of Columbus before that

1199
01:19:54,520 --> 01:20:01,560
even fit within that
uh projection that the village wants to

1200
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:06,560
uh communicate to the rest of the
public.

1201
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:10,840
And I live next to clubs. So, uh I'm I'm
very very cognizant of some of these

1202
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:14,840
issues that come up with the noise and
crowd control.

1203
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:20,640
So, that said
I I do have sympathies for the residents

1204
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:25,320
because I understand
this concept of noise and you know, but

1205
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:29,000
I'm what I'm having difficulty here is
there's noise and then and the owners

1206
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:32,880
have indicated they're not the only ones
responsible.

1207
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:36,600
So, let's start there first of all.
That beer garden area, is I don't know

1208
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:40,200
if it's part of this business or it's
not part of the business. Is it linked

1209
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,760
up with the with the lease or is not
linked up with the lease?

1210
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,600
» I tried to get after you. I had to ask
me. I think that the beer garden belongs

1211
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,200
to another entity.
>> Okay.

1212
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,760
So, if
>> I don't want to have to clarify that.

1213
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,760
» That is true.
>> All right.

1214
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:55,640
» Okay, it suppose it doesn't. See, this
is what's going to happen with with my

1215
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:59,040
testimony is going. I think there are
solutions here, but I don't think they

1216
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:04,400
all belong to the same.
You know, if that I'm I think in that

1217
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,280
decision you read, they said no DJs in
the state in the beer garden.

1218
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,800
» Yeah.
>> And I attended a planning board meeting

1219
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:13,160
where they brought in a
a sound

1220
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:17,800
expert and the planning board imposed
the same restrictions in addition to

1221
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:23,880
whatever you impose on the beer garden.
No DJs, no loud music.

1222
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:27,040
Someone's got to find that, but at least
that's there as a reference point.

1223
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,800
» And
>> And I know I know Chelsea and Fields,

1224
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:35,600
you know, she's been through this
process. She's trying to get herself.

1225
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,600
It's not easy to go back to the village
and say

1226
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:40,320
» Yeah.
>> You got to make you got to make that

1227
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:44,600
call to the public safety because you
continue to pursue the issues.

1228
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:49,960
That's what I think is happening here. I
think there's a mishmash of other issues

1229
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:54,360
that sound and legitimate. My house can
vibrate too from my neighbor from my

1230
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:57,480
wonderful nearby club. I understand that
completely.

1231
01:21:55,640 --> 01:22:01,160
The village has a very poor policy
enforcement.

1232
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:05,640
Even though the code says that
percussion is to be limited, it doesn't.

1233
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:08,360
Now, I was at the public meeting when
the mayor promised to do something about

1234
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:12,840
it. He had to say something about the
percussion. You and Chelsea and I should

1235
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:16,160
both go to complete work these together.
And ask the board to do better.

1236
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:19,040
Because I think that's what's missing
here. I think that that

1237
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:22,760
we have a we have a
a deep inconsistency, sometimes

1238
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:25,560
ineffective policy control of sound and
noise

1239
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,960
in the village of Patchogue. And that's
what's happening here. I think we have a

1240
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:31,120
point
in a larger niche.

1241
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:39,160
So, on the issue of noise at this
facility, once you give it a If you do

1242
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:41,920
give it a concert,
change of use.

1243
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:47,000
So,
as a matter of law,

1244
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:50,640
at 11:00,
uh

1245
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:53,640
we don't have the sound code anymore. We
have the commercial noise code. I just

1246
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:59,160
went through this with the board
actually a month ago.

1247
01:22:56,440 --> 01:23:04,160
Standards of a lower. We don't have 70
decibels anymore. Being the standard is

1248
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:07,880
55. It's not at my property. It's at the
business property line.

1249
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:11,080
Uh so, the possibility of getting
something done and tickets and court

1250
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:15,320
action
done is very high.

1251
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,960
Maybe that strategy hasn't been employed
so far. Maybe it should be.

1252
01:23:17,480 --> 01:23:22,600
And therefore, we'll find out whether or
not, as the owner says, the noise is

1253
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:26,240
contained. Well, you know what? Either
it is or it isn't. It's a simple matter

1254
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,440
of management, finding out what the
story is.

1255
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,560
» Yeah. So, so the neighborhood is
affected.

1256
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,520
» Right.
>> Just to be clear, the sound garden is

1257
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:36,000
separate entity
than stereo garden.

1258
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,240
» Sound garden.
>> The beer The beer garden. Sorry. The

1259
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,760
beer garden. Yeah.
They used to be the same when it was

1260
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,640
before.
>> Side street, side street.

1261
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:45,320
» Yeah, right by the garden.
>> The side street owns the side.

1262
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:50,240
» Beer garden.
>> Okay. It may. But nevertheless, again,

1263
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:54,480
if I'm correct, the planning board
placed restrictions on that property

1264
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:59,640
that we managed to change owners,
that property still has restrictions.

1265
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:04,040
So, uh it should be pursued further, but
I believe and maybe I'll I'll help

1266
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:08,040
Chelsea figure that out, too.
>> Does anybody remember what that building

1267
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:10,600
was?
>> Which one?

1268
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:14,200
» It was Burgerology.
>> No, it No, it was a roller right there.

1269
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:22,600
It was a roller right there.
>> They found pieces of the ceiling.

1270
01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:25,880
» So, so when we hear a noise,
I can almost swear that you can hear

1271
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:29,520
noises. It was nothing but a brick
building. They had a roller rink.

1272
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,680
» Are you talking about the present center
building?

1273
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:35,520
» Yeah, yeah, the roller rink.
That's why the roof goes like this.

1274
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,880
Yeah.
When I was a kid, I used to be able to

1275
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:44,960
just get my face over the top of the
rail and you'd watch everybody skate.

1276
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,600
» All right, well, I see what you're I see
what you're saying.

1277
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,200
» You know what I'm saying? So, I we got
to figure something out here.

1278
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:52,760
» I I I I see that.
>> Uh that we can that'll be a

1279
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:56,920
not affecting the neighborhood. They can
and and we can make it work somehow.

1280
01:24:54,920 --> 01:25:01,240
» Also, just one last thing. In addition
to the police reports you have, can we

1281
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,360
have like last 2 years of public safety
reports as well to look at for 2

1282
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,080
seconds?
>> Did they call give us any?

1283
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,280
No.
>> No.

1284
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,880
So, that would also be another tool to
look at anything that might have been

1285
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,880
missed.
>> Yeah, and what your other idea is

1286
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:15,760
something that could be addressed as
well. We want to talk about that.

1287
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:19,920
» Yeah.
I agree. All right, thanks.

1288
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:23,920
» John, thank you. Any Anyone else would
like to speak for or against the roller

1289
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,640
rink? I mean, the uh
>> I just want to follow up on something.

1290
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:30,720
» Uh you're welcome, Mr. Sue. I've got a
public. Yes.

1291
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:35,120
Anybody else?
Guess what? Well, now you guys can come

1292
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:39,600
back and talk. All right.
>> So, with with the concerns um

1293
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,720
of the music
>> Please.

1294
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:45,680
» Um
if there's any any day during the

1295
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:48,840
weekday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday, Friday,

1296
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:52,320
and if you want to come in, I'll have my
sound engineer

1297
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:57,320
turn off the music and we'll do a
private concert for you there and you

1298
01:25:54,800 --> 01:26:02,000
can have someone stand outside and you
can see that you will not hear nothing.

1299
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:05,360
No vibration, absolutely zero. We've
done this already. And there's

1300
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:09,640
absolutely no I don't know where she's
getting that that is happening. I'm not

1301
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:13,200
debunking her, but it could be, but it's
not but it's not it's not coming from

1302
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:15,760
our side because we've done this
already.

1303
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:20,360
We can set that up whenever We can set
that up whenever you like.

1304
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:25,520
» And we just so you know, every event we
have a sound engineer. The sound

1305
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:30,960
engineer basically controls
the volume and what is going on.

1306
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:35,960
We do not want our sound to be to a
level that people can't speak, number

1307
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:39,440
one. And number two, because it it it's
what gives you the experience. Like the

1308
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,840
sound has to
>> Yes, sir.

1309
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:44,560
» be proper in the room.
>> be It can't be overwhelming. And then

1310
01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:48,320
also, I I have a fix to the situation
which obviously it it's it's just more

1311
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:52,240
money on our side, but it is not it
would be a fix that I think would

1312
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:57,600
appease them and maybe appease Florida
also. That at the end of the night when

1313
01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:02,000
my security um is done vacating the
facility, that they do a quick walk up

1314
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:05,320
and down the block, or maybe take a look
at the parking lot, or maybe take a look

1315
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:08,400
across the street, making sure there is
nobody urinating, make sure there's

1316
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:11,640
nobody trying to break into a car or
something like that. Maybe after the 20

1317
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:15,080
minutes after the concert's over, just
to go out there and look at things. And

1318
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,920
make a point and tell me, "Hey, bro,
there's extra garbage on the block."

1319
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:22,160
Then we'll send someone out there to
pick it up. I don't have a problem doing

1320
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:24,520
that as an extended courtesy um after
the concert ends.

1321
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:27,880
» Should the board grant this special
permit, you're going to ask to be a good

1322
01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:30,480
neighbor. Second step.
>> And there's my letter of

1323
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:34,440
recommendations. I have neighbors that
never complain about it. I I am I am I

1324
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,640
they say there's garbage here, we take
it out. Just the other day, a neighbor

1325
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,800
called me up because, "Listen, I got
water coming off my roof that's coming

1326
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:42,840
into my thing." I spent $1,500 on the
roof guy to come and fix the water to

1327
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:46,360
divert somewhere else. I am part of the
community. I have invested. I own the

1328
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:49,080
building next door. I have three houses
here.

1329
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:52,280
I mean, I love Patchogue. Patchogue is
is a great city. I mean, the town. I

1330
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,520
love So, I have everything
>> You said you own the building next door.

1331
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,840
» The old Hand Don building?
>> No, the pizza place.

1332
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,440
» Okay.
>> Completely completely

1333
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,520
» pizza place. Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1334
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,640
» It's a florist. It's a florist.
>> I was just

1335
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,360
» Yeah, yeah.
>> It's cute. That's what it is.

1336
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:06,520
» Yeah. And then we also have a house on
North Ocean Ave too.

1337
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:10,600
» Jesus.
>> So, I mean, like I said, I'm open to

1338
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:15,760
suggestions. I can I can immediately put
that into effect this weekend. Um so you

1339
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:19,000
know, our neighbors down the block feels
a little sense of security there doesn't

1340
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,520
feel like anyone's getting get shot or
or knifed while they're sitting there.

1341
01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:25,080
» to shut that up there.
>> You know, we can make that happen.

1342
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:27,120
» Great. Any other questions from members
of the board, especially Miss

1343
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:30,040
LaMontagne?
>> I just have some quick questions in

1344
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:34,480
regards to security. I know that you
said you you would have one man for

1345
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:38,760
every 50. So how many men does that
usually like how many men do you usually

1346
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:40,040
have for on security for a typical
event?

1347
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:44,080
» For what?
>> I I I was beginning then you can figure

1348
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:46,680
out. So we always go by uh ticket sales.
So as leading up the weekend we'll have

1349
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,160
a
phone call with the promoter, with our

1350
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:53,960
staff. So we do the bar tending
scheduling and then and at that point

1351
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:57,400
I'll say, "Hey Mike, uh the show is
looking a little weak. We only got 300

1352
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,960
tickets sold." And that's how he uh
plans accordingly.

1353
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:04,520
» There's some shows that you go in there
and there's we have 30 securities. Yeah.

1354
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:07,680
So it's it's
we don't have one or two. I mean he can

1355
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:11,600
contest to that.
>> Yeah, they take extra precautions. We

1356
01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:15,320
brought additional members and then cut
them after a couple hours. You know,

1357
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:19,680
they they never mind putting on
additional people just to make sure that

1358
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:23,840
we have adequate people for any sort of
capacity that we get. Cuz like they

1359
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,960
said, we do get walk-ins as well as the
resale tickets.

1360
01:29:24,440 --> 01:29:30,400
» And real quick just to confirm and so
there's been a time where we do have

1361
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:34,000
some extra walk-offs that we will hold
people outside. So we'll let two in and

1362
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:37,760
two out and not to go over capacity and
not to overwhelm them because my main

1363
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:42,120
concern for them I always tell them, "I
want you guys to feel safe first." So if

1364
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:45,920
you ever feel that there's too many
people here and you're and you can't

1365
01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:48,480
control it, tell me I will hold the door
until more people come in and around.

1366
01:29:47,480 --> 01:29:54,240
That to me that makes them
>> And that might be a line that's outside,

1367
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:57,520
but every other place in the in the town
also have a line.

1368
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:00,480
You know, so it's
it it it secure.

1369
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:03,920
» that line is not going to be, you know,
maybe 10, 15, 20, 30 people waiting at

1370
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:06,440
the time. That's what the lines will be
at.

1371
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,960
» So there's security inside and outside.
>> Yes.

1372
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:11,360
» The
a lot of guests.

1373
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:15,240
» There's There's capacity people that
like spill over past our premises. We're

1374
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:18,840
in a position to have someone outside
just to mitigate any sort of public

1375
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:21,800
relations or anything going on. Just so
there's no people going in the street,

1376
01:30:20,440 --> 01:30:24,520
cause a disturbance or anything like
that.

1377
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:27,320
» And you said you were newly contracted?
>> It's about 3 months already.

1378
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:29,560
» Okay. Yes.
>> What is capacity?

1379
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,840
» 985.
>> 95.

1380
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:38,800
» And just so you know as well
with the knives and gun situation, we

1381
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:43,880
frisk every single person and go through
every single bag. And right now we're

1382
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:49,680
saving up to have a metal detector. Just
so no one is there. But I can't control

1383
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:53,880
what's going down on Main Street if
someone, you know, how many times does

1384
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:56,400
this does the police come and look for
other people that are not even in our

1385
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,680
place.
>> No, that's

1386
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,400
That's how I did it.
>> It's very difficult to do.

1387
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:02,720
» You can only control what you can
control.

1388
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,040
» Absolutely.
>> And then like I said, on our block and

1389
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:08,560
our block
>> We can control it.

1390
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:11,640
» At the end of the night, members of our
staff and our security will don't have

1391
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:15,160
any problem going up and down and just
doing a quick glance over and making

1392
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:19,360
sure that everything looks okay.
>> And to clarify

1393
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:25,000
what was stated, we don't take turns
opening. The place next door operates on

1394
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:30,000
its own and we operate on our own.
You can't say, "Well, Stereo's open

1395
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,000
today on Saturday and they're not." It's
That's

1396
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:35,680
» That doesn't exist.
>> So I don't know what lease they're

1397
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:40,480
speaking about because they open
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. This

1398
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:44,800
Friday we're particularly not open.
We're opening Saturday. I'm sure they're

1399
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:50,680
open Saturday, too.
So the side street dive is to the south

1400
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:53,840
of you. That's 11 Railroad. That's 11.
Is that the one with the beer garden?

1401
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:57,240
» That is the outside bar.
>> And just so you know, when you look at

1402
01:31:55,400 --> 01:32:00,720
the front of the building,
if you don't mind, see the two stairs?

1403
01:31:59,960 --> 01:32:07,000
So this is
>> We can't see. You can tell the people in

1404
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:10,080
This is our entrance. This is their
entrance. It looks identical.

1405
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:15,080
» Okay.
>> So these are two They're side by side

1406
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:17,680
because before Emporium had both of
them.

1407
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:21,160
» And what our side of the VIP side
>> This says we're further

1408
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:25,520
» And then how you see the VIP entrance
>> Right. So now both those entrances,

1409
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,920
that's ours, that's theirs.
>> And I used to be Burgology before I was

1410
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,280
here. Yes,
>> Correct.

1411
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,920
» What's the even cater
>> So our side

1412
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,760
» I know Burgology

1413
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:46,560
Yeah, it's a fine. Okay.
Any other questions from members of the

1414
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,560
board?

1415
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:52,720
Any other member of the public who would
like to speak for or against?

1416
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:56,040
Counselor, anything to add?
>> No.

1417
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,680
» Do you have anything else to add?
>> No, not at this point.

1418
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,040
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1419
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:04,080
» I'll take a motion on the uh
>> Mr. Chairman, I move to close the

1420
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:07,680
application and move it to our decision.
>> Motion made by Mr. Salant to close the

1421
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,760
application, seconded by Mr. Colley. All
in favor?

1422
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:12,680
» Aye.
>> Aye. None opposed. We're closed.

1423
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,920
» Thank you. Thank you for coming. Thank
you, gentlemen.

1424
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,320
» Yes, thank you so much.
>> Thank you so much.

1425
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,520
» Thank you.
>> It's

1426
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:23,240
uh the New York State law is that we
have 62 days to render a decision. It's

1427
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,840
practice of this board to move much
quicker than that.

1428
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,400
» Okay.
>> Thank you.

1429
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:30,080
» Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you for your time.

1430
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:33,720
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
>> It's been a pleasure.

1431
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:37,400
Uh I I I should say the ruling Uh there
is one more

1432
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:41,280
back here. That we have We have
All right. That's closed in half, right?

1433
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:44,360
Okay, great. I'll take a motion on
tonight's meeting.

1434
01:33:42,440 --> 01:33:46,360
» Mr. Chairman, I move to close tonight's
meeting.

1435
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:51,360
» Motion made by Mr. Colley to go home,
seconded by Mr. Salant. All in favor?

1436
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,360
Aye. We're closed.