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Okay. So, I need 500 of these things.

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» There's December.
>> I think you might be exaggerating. Okay.

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» December from last year and then that's
January and then that's the current

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» adjustments
bills we paid.

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» And then these are they have to produce
additional ones

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on.
>> Okay. Sounds good.

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That's the Lions District 7, the
festival sponsored.

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» Got the
>> I knew what it was.

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» The convention, right?
>> In my head, I was like,

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» she asked me today. She's like, remind
me again cuz somebody's going to ask

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because it's a weird one.
>> Festival.

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» Yeah.
>> So, the festival sponsor of the Lions

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convention.

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» Okay.
So, we'll call the finance committee

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meeting. um to order at 6:32 on March
12th.

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Um call to order.
>> Uh Michelle Nol.

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» Yes.
>> Penguin.

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» Yes.
>> Cory Harrier.

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» Yes.
>> And then have we had a chance to review

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the minutes yet?
>> I

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did.
>> I did too. I'll make a motion to accept

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the minutes from February 12th, 2026
finance committee.

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» I'll second.
>> Okay. All in favor say I.

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» I.
>> I.

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» Okay. We'll move to the approval of the
February 2026 docks.

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No, there's
>> Well, there's there's old ones that'll

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be given.
Yeah, there'll be December's is I

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believe there was December, but January
and February were both clean.

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We had a couple in there. Trust is for
18,000.

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18,000.
What is that from?

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What you looking? Private purpose trust
2.346.

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It's on the fund status. It's 18,000.
Is that report? No, that should be your

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festival.
>> Oh, okay. Is that the 9903

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9976?
>> Oh, no. It's 9976.

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» Unclean funds.
>> 9976 is your Walnut Creek Sewer District

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» deposits. Deposits.
>> Make sure I'm saying that right. Yes.

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» Cool.
I'll probably have asked that 17,624

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times, but it's okay. So on queen
supplies, what do I I'm sure that's for

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the queens for the festival. What's like
do we have background or what we use

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that for?
>> Yeah. So um that's your blanket PO,

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right?
>> Yeah.

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» Or your PO for that. So their supplies
for their sashes, their crowns, all

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those different things and pieces of
parts and then again the school, the

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village doesn't supplement their
funding. They have to raise what they

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spend and then they have a carryover.
So,

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» okay.
>> We We're not

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» because it goes through our books, we
have to do that, but we're not paying

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» paying for it.
>> Same thing with the festival.

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» Yep.

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» Do you want you want fun?
>> Me, too.

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» Right.
>> I have some. I just haven't had time to

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file for it.
>> I have some, too. I need to do it, but

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It's on the list.
>> Yeah, me too.

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Then by Ohio I guess I should Ohio work
workers comp.

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» Uhhuh. It says 810, but then beside it,
it says tuneup.

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» We every at the end of every year we
have to do a tuneup. So anything we have

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to add everybody's wages and then
anybody that I give a 1099 like

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» So you're just you have to do tuneup and
pay the difference. That's the

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difference that I had to pay this year.
>> Okay.

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» On the tuneup.

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167 and change is just a regular monthly
payments.

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» Okay.

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So, so on the one for the receipts, the
cash journal

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It actually instead of like a company
name it says Peasantville and says paid

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last minute.
>> It's just like 921

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» remove late penalty
>> on your consumption report or in your

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water report.
>> Oh 921

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» was it water for one of one of our
buildings?

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» When we key in a like when they pay with
their debit card or credit cards like

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when they call the office and make a
payment

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» Uhhuh.
We have to physically key that.

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» Okay.
>> In like Sam has to key it into the

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utility billing.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah. That's
>> Then that payment if we don't turn

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around and do it again, we can't pull it
in.

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» So if we like if you call me and take I
take a payment over the phone.

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» Yeah. and I enter that into our system,
it doesn't post

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» on their system and I don't see it in
the transaction report until tomorrow

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the next.
>> So people who do last minute payments

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like on the 15th when I'm doing shut
offs.

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» Okay.
>> So this person must state fee that they

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paid last minute because it's only like
921.

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» We probably took it off
>> because they made the payment on the

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15th but we don't see the payment
>> till the 16th. We do see the payment,

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but when I post slate fees,
>> I don't I post it to everybody and then

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I went in because he had paid that
payment on time,

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» but I couldn't post it because I didn't
have a transaction code or anything.

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» Okay.
>> So, I went back in and took that off.

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» Gotcha.
>> Because I can't take one out of, you

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know, 500 out. You know what I mean?
Right. Right. But there's no way

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official seal to be fixed on the 8th of
January.

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» So basically it was
>> it was it was paid. It was just

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» unless you go in and pay it online
yourself.

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» Yeah.
>> But if I key it, there's a day lag,

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» right,
>> as to when it shows up in the

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transaction report.
>> Yeah, it makes sense.

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» Thank you.
>> Bob should have got one. And

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» what happened? What's wrong with
something with the

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made a mistake on their form.
>> Board of Elections.

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» Oh,
>> the date that they signed it is 2029

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versus 2026.
>> Well, you don't even have to apply next

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time.
>> Yeah,

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» we're done.
>> So, you may want to call

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» I will gladly call her.
>> Let her know that Councilwoman Harrier.

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» No, don't call her.
>> Next, I'll have an audit.

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» Well, I don't know if the board of
elections audit. So,

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» people know people.

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I didn't even I didn't to be honest. I
didn't I made a copy and didn't even

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look at
>> I didn't even look at them either.

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» Actually, what's funny is all that

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» becant

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and He's
a full sunshine.

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» Right.

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» I told my job the other day that I was
going to take a day off work on my

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resume.
Appreciate

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I was having a bad day.

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Excuse
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» Oh, that's okay.

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Four of seven
said a resolution.

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When I changed everything, I made sure
every name was correct because I missed

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ABC and I just copied and pasted.

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Are you kidding me? Should I have plenty
of scratch paper if you need?

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» I got a whole box.
>> So, Samuel King.

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» I don't think I've seen that name
before.

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» That's officer.
>> That's officer.

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» I was just think Officer.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.

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I say that they need the bill to pay.
>> I tease them. I tease Jason. He's

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grounded all the time. So
Excuse

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me.

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I think

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» they
were

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» here
was one of our

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» lifeards.
>> She was one of my life.

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No, this was number two.

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» I was number one.
>> No, this is what

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» the daughter just the shy of you, I
think.

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» He looked like he was ill to begin with.
He had a big scar on his chest.

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» I think he had heart surgery or
something.

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» He did. He had
>> he had um something

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» like the DV

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» because he was there.
>> But can we broke

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» and then they worked on him for 45
minutes and couldn't resuscitate him.

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» Well, they could but

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for
five years.

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» Easy.

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» He had two open heart surgeries.
>> Poor baby.

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» Poor little baby.

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I don't think
that

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I don't want to see your next EPA
report.

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» It's not ever going to be good anymore.
>> I know.

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» Does any of our stuff qualify for that
11% discount?

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Yeah.
>> Oh, honey. Casey hits that like nobody's

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business. You'll hold stuff to go to
that.

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» They buy stuff. The new compressor%

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» 11% is a lot of money.
>> Yeah, it is.

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» I mean,
$200 or $300.

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I'm not

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» Casey can tell you when every 11% IS
GOING

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SOMETHING WHILE IT'S NOT going to

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» you

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I forgot.

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» Your little kiddo better.
>> Yes, luckily. Sorry I haven't missed it.

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» Oh, that's all right.
We're going to hear all about it later.

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» Okay.

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» Yeah, it's in the package. Your package
is up there. It says it's on the right

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hand side.
>> I didn't have enough space in my table

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area.
>> It was cluttering me. Sorry.

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I would like to have one of these, but I
want one that looks that I can peel off.

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I was wonder

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» and they're the right You have travel
like this.

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» Oh, sorry.

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» Yeah.
One's NSF.

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» That's what he said. I'm just
>> I'm just not trying to be a

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» No, that's I thought I missed something
because

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» I get to look at it first then I'm
>> You're good. I thought I missed

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something. I thought What the heck? It's
been a day.

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» Yeah,
>> Penny normally sends stuff by email,

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which I love, but that stuff it takes
time to

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» Sorry. And I meant to send it earlier.
>> Oh, no. Don't be sorry. It's part of the

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gig.
>> I got to get in the habit of doing it

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earlier.
We're just glad you do it.

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» 12 days.

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Okay. So, do we have an approval of the
February 2026 documents?

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» I'll make a motion to approve the 20
February 2026 documents.

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» And I'll second it. All in favor say
>> I.

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» Uh, anybody have any old business?

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» Um, there is new business that we'll
discuss in the regular meeting for

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resolution 03122601.
It's for supplemental appropriations.

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Do I hear a motion for adjournment?
>> I'll make a motion to adjourn.

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» I'll second.
>> Everybody in favor say I.

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» I.
>> I.

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» And we'll call it to close at 653 on
March 12th.

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» Where's your
>> I don't know. I feel like I

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» steal Jason's.
>> I got a drawer full of them.

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» It would be kind of funny if we all had
them. I'll just start.

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» I don't know if I have that money or
not.

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» I probably don't need one. I'd get out
of control.

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elderly mother
>> and she was visionary

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for

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He's just a
>> smiley face.

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» Throw them in my bag.

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» Yeah, we were admiring the winky and the
smiley face.

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Don't say anything.

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I wonder

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for months.

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» I just I don't

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What happened?

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My

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I got a little bit.

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Excuse me. Sorry.

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I had any

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updow.

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» they're on the list. I promise.
>> She promises.

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» I do promise.
>> I'm just teasing. I don't even know what

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you're talking about.
>> The list that I'm like, "Oh, shoot. It's

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due today." That list.

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» I like your hair, by the way, before we
start tonight.

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» Thank you. Michael just did it this
morning.

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» Well, there we have it.
>> Thank you.

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I feel very much put together.

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» It's been four years
since I've done or cut or anything like

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anything.
>> I just think it would be so handy. It's

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like right here. I'm like, man,

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» it's very Right.
>> Yeah. And she's come in and it looks all

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nice. Now you've come in and it looks
all nice. Really should be

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» reaching out.
>> She she come in. I'll put it together.

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I'm like I text Michael. I'm like I want
my hair done.

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» Yeah. I know.
>> Crap. Put my hair

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pulled out of my face because I can't.

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» I told him both Tom. So Tom's had bald
head. Like he shaves it.

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» He has it in almost a year now. Like
it's it's crazy. And he's got we all

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have curly hair, but he years ago when
we first got I mean 20 years ago when we

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first started dating, he told me at one
point his goal in life was to be wealthy

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enough to have somebody shave his head
for him every week because he has to do

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it like every two or three days because
it grows so quick. We have very quick

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growing hair. Yeah.
>> And I told Michael today, I said, "So,

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my goal is to I wash mine maybe once
every six days." Like, once a week is my

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goal.
>> I hate it. I hate washing my hair. I

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said, "I'm going to pay you once a week
to wash my hair."

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» Oh, does he scrub good?
>> Oh, yes.

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» It's Those are the best.
>> Sometimes you get somebody and they

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don't do a very good job and you're
like, man, that's a let down.

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Then you get the good
>> guinea pig. Do you want all

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it
>> I don't like it. I don't know why it's

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not even a I mean I don't have a special
>> I do in the shower so it's not like a

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big deal. It's just annoying. And then I
feel fuzzy and weird, you know,

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» fuzzy and weird.
>> You get some frizzy action going on.

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» I think you can have massage therapist.
I feel like cosmetologists would do

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good.
>> Yeah, because there's some that aren't.

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» Yeah.
>> Could literally open a shop just washing

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hair. I think women would pay for that.
>> Yeah,

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» for sure. When I was in nursing school,
I used to go

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» All right, we'll get started.
>> All right, it's 7 p.m. on March 12th,

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2026, and we'll all rise

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of the United States of America and to
the republic for which it stands, one

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nation under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.

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Roll call, please.
>> Mayor Henderson,

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» present.
>> President Jol here. Councilman Henry

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» here.
>> Councilman Pangborn

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» here.
>> Councilman Harrier

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» here. Counciloman Van Dyke
>> here. Councilman Snider

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» here.
>> All right. February 12, 2026 council

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meeting minutes in front of them. Do I
hear a motion to approve?

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» I'll make a motion to approve it.
>> Cory made the motion. Do I hear a

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second?
>> I'll second.

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» Second.
Courtney, sorry. Almost said Sarah.

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» I know. It just happens.
I could have called called you Corey.

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That's where she used to say,
>> you know.

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» Well, that would have been okay.
>> I've been called worse.

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» President Jamal.
>> Yes.

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» Councilman Bart. Councilman Harry.
>> Yes.

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» Counciloman Vand.
>> Yes.

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» Councilman Snder.
>> Yep.

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I feel like we're all a little out of
sort like let's take a deep breath for a

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minute. Tomorrow is Friday the 13th,
>> I guess.

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» So, you know, the funny thing is when I
did minutes, just I know our last

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meeting was on 212
>> and Friday the 13th was I think they're

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supposed to have the most this year.
>> It's because of 28 days in February.

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» Stays the same.
>> Somebody had said it was the most you'll

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get in one year though.
>> Yeah, cuz normally you only have two.

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Unless it's a leap year, then you get
three.

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» Yeah. And then there's some moons and
stuff extra going on this year, too.

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» At the same time, explains so much. We
need we need help with crazy.

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» You can tell that we need crazy around
here.

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» Sam says we need help with crazy, right?
>> Comes out.

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» All right, we'll go to council reports
finance.

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» Um, we do have a resolution later in the
meeting. Other than that, nothing to

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report.
>> Okay. zoning and property maintenance.

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Uh we do have the one application that
we had turned in last month. Um it's

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being rejected. It'll go in for
variance. And then we also have a

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request for a lot split. Um so Sam has
been working with you two to set up a

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date. Um Sam, when you do schedule that,
Roger Ruble needs to be added to that

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meeting.
His variance

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» the lot split.
>> No, the lot split and Roger Ruble need

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to be added.
>> Oh, we switched. Okay. Sorry.

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» To that same meeting.
>> Okay.

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» When you send out letters, you have to
send out letters to his neighbors as

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well.
>> I thought we were talking about the

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lots, but I was confused. Sorry.
>> We're putting them both in the same

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meeting.
>> Oh, okay. Well, then I was confused.

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Sorry.
>> We'll get those taken care of.

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» Records, rules of law.
>> Yeah. Uh Corey and I met last week and

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it was it was a good meeting. Uh we're
going to be discussing a ordinance later

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on in the meeting and there's some
comments on it. Um and then the only

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other thing is I have a list of the
existing resolutions and ordinances. Sam

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sent that to me. Um and then I'll be
looking at updating the record retention

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policy, ensuring it meets OC.
>> Okay. Awesome.

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for the
>> I know. Hey, she she even volunteered

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for it. I don't have to go eeny meeny
money.

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» Yes.
>> Uh recreation.

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» That would be me. So Courtney and I met
>> and so

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poor Katie little girl was sick. So um
>> we talked about and I'll have minutes

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for you Sam about the meeting regarding
or about

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» parks and park. I call it parks and
wreck. It's recreation theater center

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pool and um there's some events that we
want to do at no cost to the village. Um

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and I'll have a list of those and I can
bring those in next time. But things

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like um ice cream at the park

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some things around trying to have some
events at least once a month during the

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summer months when kids are out of
school. More if I can manage it. Um

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Christmas time and during the holidays
like um for Christmas doing a gender

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break house contest. Like I said,
there's no cost to the village. I'll

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I'll figure out the funding for it.
And so we'll have something to do at

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least once a month with the village.
I'll go with Sam and see if she we can

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populate it and let people know about
it. So I'll come back more with a list

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of events and
>> some ideas of how how to do it,

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how we want to tell people about it.
>> Um, we'll be posting the job

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announcements for like managers,
>> lifeguards, and a manager. Um, once we

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get some feedback on that application,
we'll reach out to your board and you

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guys can set up those meetings to do the
interviews.

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» Sure.
>> Do we do we do interviews for life and

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» so typically what has we've done in the
past is the board hires the manager. she

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does
>> and they hire

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» um
the ones I have to work with them but

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again you guys
>> I think that's the method that works

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well
>> personal

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» safety service
>> I don't have anything this month I do

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have stuff but I can't present to
council yet because I didn't have time

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to set up meeting
>> okay

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» before this evening
>> all right not a problem all right county

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boards regional planning and board of
health So nothing to report on any of

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them. Nothing for regional planning that
pertains to us and then no.

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» Okay. All right. Next grand updates and
we'll go to the board. My favorite.

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» Oh boy.
>> Because I do have some updates.

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» Um so our safe pros of school we're
going to partner with Fairfield local

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school district. So we held our first
meeting. So we had a meeting with

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Fairfield Union village of Raymond
Village Pleasantville, our engineers,

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county representations and some
different people at the state level to

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handle different type of funding. So to
kick everything off as far as future

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funding, we have to do a school transfer
transportation plan. It's called STP.

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The school has to do that. So that's
their part of this. What we talked about

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is for them to apply. It pays basically
for the design. They apply and then

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That's for the travel plan. So, you
might as well go ahead and do it all

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include as much as you can so you can
use this plan that's good for five years

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for five years worth of cycles. Um, so
that's that's the goal. Um, Fairfield

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Union did um finish this up and it was
submitted last week. Um, the

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he
did not. Um, this is an ongoing thing. I

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think he's if I remember right it would
be this spring but I can't remember what

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month that they'll meet. Now everything
is a process. So when they meet they may

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not do an approval. It may be like oh we
like your ideas but now you meet. So

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most likely we will get funded for the
STP for the plan and then we'll start

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going there. School has the heavy lift
on that. I did offer our engine and us

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use the same engineers. So we both
offered like use our engineers if

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there's a cost we'll pick up that bill.
Um because the school does not have an

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engineering firm on staff and they have
to hire it out. Um typically the way our

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engineering firm does it is when it
comes to these type of grants they do

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everything up front for free and then
when we actually go in the plan that's

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when they actually get their money type
thing. So that's usually how that works.

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So I don't see anything large, but if
they come back and say, you know, I want

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engineer drawings before we even
consider it. Well, if you have

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engineered certified drawings, you're
going to be paying for them. So, but

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they'll let us know if anything comes
up. Um, after that, you know, we'll

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we'll work on the safe routes school
because at that point the villages are

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on their own. We apply
and then after that, we also apply for

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um active transportation plan fund which
in the millions that could be fully

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funded and that will kick off other
design stuff like that. Um and then we

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can actually I'm saying this like
longterm wish list big dreams if we got

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all the money in the world we can
actually redo main street sidewalk

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street lines the whole thing and that's
kind of what you know fix what we need

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to get the kids to school safely and
then the second round of that once we

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get all that is fix main street so we
have proper sidewalks proper stuff like

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that. So,
more to come on that. Um, our ARPA

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funding from there. Again, this is the
Tower of Hell that we've been dealing

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with now for two years. Um, engineers
are doing the new drawing. Once those

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are available, we'll bid that out. Um,
we have in our packet tonight to pass an

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ordinance to go into contract with
someone to remove the debris and then go

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down the dirt about 8 in and bring in
clean soil. Um, I just got permission

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today from the county. We can use those
ARPA funds for that. about $1,000. So

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that's out of no out of pocket for us.
Um will be about $30 some thousand.

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And what that's been reserved for based
on our conversation is fencing. We're

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getting $30,000 worth of fencing because
we we need to get this clean cleared out

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before the end of the year. And this
just falls into the program nice and

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clean. We can drop it in without having
to go back and change this and add that

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and then take the chance of not having
it done by the end of the year. And lose

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the funds and still have fencing that we
need. So,

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but that's that's about it on the um the
grants. Uh the water meter replacement

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you guys approve by 20 new meters. So,
we replace what or order what 40 60

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meters now.
>> Yeah. So,

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» 40 meters. So, again they'll slowly get
those in

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» all together.
We've had two orders, right?

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» Yeah. Two orders or something like that.
So, and the goal is as they die or we've

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seen problems, that's when we replace
them. So, we don't have this same

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problem again 15 years down the road.
Well, the next mayor doesn't have this

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problem. Um, all these die at the same
time. In 15 years, I'm going to be on

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vacation somewhere.
>> Um,

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» me too.
>> So,

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that's the goal, not replacing these
all. That way, they all kind of die at a

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different time. So, but you know, they
are going to start dying more

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frequently. We're starting to see an
uptick in them just because they were

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only designed for 10 years and we're at
year 12. And basically, it's the battery

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that
the ones that we replaced with, they

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have about a 15ear lipan.
>> How do you know?

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» I mean,
>> that's my question.

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» Yeah, I believe in the old program
>> they stop sending the signal.

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» Um, when we first bought this, we
actually had a battery signal that we

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would get and tell us like how much life
is left. But then they done an upgrade

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and it got rid of all that plus that
like it got rid of all the stuff we

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bought.

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» All of a sudden somebody's water bills.
>> Yeah. So

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» yeah, that happens too.
>> When I look at the tub report, there's

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nothing there like
>> they're using water but it's not being

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» on
the ones that currently have a remote

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read. We're replacing the same
We're moving fromch.

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» Yeah. And the new ones because it's
sonic, it can detect your um meter can

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detect your neighbors water break.
>> So it sends out those pulses. So let's

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say we get five or six of you in an area
that also have this huge pulse rate. It

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lets us know in that area that there's a
water break of some sort.

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» Reading.
So, and then just case go over it, but

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we just had a big water break and when
they got there, they actually found two

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more within that break that hadn't even
surfaced yet, but we would be able to

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find stuff like that before they
surface. So,

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» awesome.
>> All right. Actually, speaking of that,

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we'll go to the maintenance report.
>> Uh, maintenance report.

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Basically, a lot of the work has been on
the EPA. A lot of my work has been on

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the EPA side. a lot of planning work
done on the equipment servicing of

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00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:33,280
vehicles
and equipment. Um, right now we got the

438
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:38,880
uh source water protection plan and the
CCR in the in the books we're working on

439
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:44,960
right now. We've repaired we replaced
four of the new meters, two new curve

440
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:49,520
boxes and two curve box relocations.
Um,

441
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:54,319
that's what that big mess is up there on
Market Street.

442
00:41:52,240 --> 00:42:01,760
sanitary inspection last month at this
time I said we thought we did well um we

443
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:08,160
got two violations one is um we didn't
designate which valves are critical in

444
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:14,800
our documentation paperwork
we can discuss that

445
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:17,680
we got a plan and number two um I just
missed the whole thing that we're

446
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:22,079
supposed to be putting phosphates on the
MS

447
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:27,680
it's a new thing that came out in
November supposedly.

448
00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:30,720
» What's on the MRI?
>> I think I said that right.

449
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:33,520
» It's your monthly report.
>> It's a monthly report that we have to

450
00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:39,200
send to the EPA.
>> Oh, it's a report.

451
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:42,240
» Yeah. And your phosphates is just your
>> It's a chemical we injected for

452
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,119
corrosion.
>> Yes.

453
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:49,280
» And it's just a report you didn't send.
>> No, we we just didn't add that little

454
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:51,920
number at the bottom.
You have the number on the report.

455
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,960
» They get it. It's just
>> It's just not on the report. They get

456
00:42:53,760 --> 00:43:01,520
the numbers because they get any
>> any test we do gets sent to us and them.

457
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,599
» Okay.
>> But you did cross.

458
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,200
» So you did.
>> Yeah.

459
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,599
» Yeah.
>> I just don't remember reading that. I

460
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,839
had to add
>> a new rule having added to our monthly

461
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:17,680
report in addition to
>> Yeah. I just don't remember reading it.

462
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,839
» Yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay.

463
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:22,160
» I put it on this month. I'll put it on
the rest. We're good.

464
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,839
» You were just talking language. I didn't
know. Sorry. Had to ask.

465
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:32,640
» It's fine. I'm sorry.
>> Um, so basically that to uh mitigate

466
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:38,240
these, all we had to do is uh submit our
uh compliance plan we're going to do to

467
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:42,560
fix our violations.
So that's that. Um, we had a big leak

468
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,880
that we talked about on Market Street.
There was actually more leaks up there

469
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:51,520
that we found. Everything up there now
is fixed. Everything is routed one

470
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:55,359
direction.
It's just a matter of now we got to fill

471
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:59,119
in the holes. Um the problem we have
right now is we can't get to our dirt

472
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:04,880
because of the whole rain
has made it so soupy that when we go try

473
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:09,920
to get the dirt we get stuck. So
yeah, working on plan on.

474
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,800
And then like I said, we've been
servicing the vehicles and equipment and

475
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:17,800
that's been most
questions.

476
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:25,640
» No, I just needed to know what the BPJ
was.

477
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:35,839
It's just a monthly report.
>> I get it now. I just

478
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:39,680
» It's one of those things. It's just a
>> a pain to dumb it down.

479
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:53,040
didn't hear anything. and the the valve
exercise where we didn't have any

480
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:57,119
critical so
>> EPA regulation says all main valves so

481
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:02,319
non-residential valves need to be
exercised and that's the main schedule

482
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:06,640
any critical valve needs to be exercised
once a year we didn't have we've never

483
00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:10,640
had any on our maps as critical well
they want critical but they won't define

484
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:14,800
what's critical
>> um so we have to go through and define

485
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:19,040
it so we're going to define it as the
water plant the two water towers

486
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,720
because those are critical. Now, they
can come back and say, "Well, that's not

487
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:27,599
enough." But then if we use Main Street
and Columbus Street as a critical, then

488
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,280
we have to make all you can't make one,
not the other. So, we're going to start

489
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,960
with that. See what
>> we should probably do in the school,

490
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,319
too.
>> Speed the school. Okay.

491
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,319
» Yeah.
>> Oh, yep. And nurse, not nursing home,

492
00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:41,280
but home.
>> Anything like that where you have

493
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,160
critical
users.

494
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:47,839
» Yeah. You know, if there's anyone that
is documented on life support that needs

495
00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:52,400
like, you know, water or stuff, that's
critical.

496
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,760
» In reality, we haven't shut the street
down. Is that val necessary now? Is it

497
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,119
critical?
>> It's critical when you need it. So,

498
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:04,480
» right. But people have to go without
water for a couple hours. For the most

499
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,319
part, that's okay. Unless there's a
critical need is what they're looking at

500
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:12,079
is we have to do the same thing. So, we
at Langster, we've been through all the

501
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:15,440
same stuff.
We don't have any known ones in our last

502
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:18,720
one
>> because of actually running water.

503
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:23,440
» Yeah,
>> because we had one suspicion town. It's

504
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:26,640
been three or four years ago. Like they
notified us and then if we had a water

505
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:30,160
break, we had to notify them directly.
There was no

506
00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:35,520
» waiting or anything like that.
>> So, all right. Any questions for Casey?

507
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:38,960
» All right.
>> We'll go on to the police report. Chief

508
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,480
Garber.
Okay. So, I do have some extra

509
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:51,839
one page, but it's not working out
today. Um, so I'll

510
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:59,760
» thank you.
>> So you don't have to guess where I

511
00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:08,680
inserted stuff. Uh so veggie first uh we
on the 13th of February

512
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,680
a known drug house

513
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:32,160
this drug house actually came to this
building

514
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:38,000
uh and watched the intersection pretty
confident vehicle would exit. They later

515
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:44,640
did. They pulled out
to get behind them before they

516
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:48,839
did have a equipment violation. They
also had traffic

517
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:55,079
almost hit
U-Haul,

518
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:05,880
you know,
a little quicker

519
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,880
on

520
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:19,440
the 25
pursuit. They went out of the

521
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:23,040
road. I I had actually just arrived in
Breeman to do the patrol down there when

522
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:31,280
this all happened.
Last transition

523
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:34,280
I think 66 miles an hour on road
cruiser

524
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:44,000
2017 explor
when they went across 256.

525
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:48,559
I really don't know if it was you know,
a fair control issue on the part of our

526
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:53,480
driver or if it was a mechanical failure
because one of the coil springs

527
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,760
and if you lose that at a high rate the
vehicle would become unstable. I don't

528
00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:05,440
know the number of events whether that
came off as it went across 256 when they

529
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:11,559
came down it was missing causing it to
become unstable. We didn't have a tech

530
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:11,559
investigation.

531
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,960
Sheriff's office investig

532
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:57,200
So we'll see what happens with that.
Regardless

533
00:49:52,079 --> 00:50:04,240
is total as a result of that pursuit. So
following that um the mayor and I well I

534
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:08,559
met with him obviously that night and he
did get evaluated at the hospital no

535
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:14,640
injuries there
and then after he was released I have a

536
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:21,680
follow conversation with him about you
we're have to do something there so the

537
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:24,680
preliminary plan to deal with the
vehicle

538
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,520
recognized

539
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:39,839
they have different classes. So one of
them will be uh like emergency response

540
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:49,599
operations which seems to be when the
issue is. So uh people go and attend

541
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:54,559
that's a actual inerson you know driver
and I'm also going to have them go to

542
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:59,200
another one that I'm going to go to as
well to get additional

543
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:04,720
level of certification that state
highway patrol that's called police

544
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:09,680
refer to as class but called a pursuit
intervention technique. It's basically

545
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:16,079
all the various ways of terminating a
pursuit early uh such as employing spike

546
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:20,800
strips which we do have. Uh if you've
watched any of the YouTube videos or

547
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:25,920
cops or whatever the bumper tap you spin
a car out

548
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:30,880
that is part of the training program.
And then also embedded in that is hey

549
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:38,160
these are things that you should be
aware of as a police officer you know

550
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:43,520
terminate a pursuit or
you know get alternatives involved such

551
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:48,000
as get support which we can get it's
just it's hard to mobilize it because it

552
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:51,920
comes from the north end of Columbus
state

553
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:57,359
an aircraft over you ask for it no
problem but it's it's the time it takes

554
00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:03,280
to get here get it in the area and then
they have a limited uh time that they

555
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:08,880
can assist you due to Columbus police
also send a helicopter too that's even

556
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:13,440
less time they can come out and like 20
minutes and they can fly back

557
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:19,200
uh so those are options that we don't
normally use that we can and then

558
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:25,520
there's an online class that's free um
oh by the way the class will be free the

559
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,880
remedial driver
275.

560
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:33,280
Uh, and then the online courses, they'll
have to do this online courses that are

561
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:40,720
offered through the state's website for
the police uh to do. Um, and that's more

562
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:45,760
of a procedural like, hey, when should
you consider terminating pursuit? What

563
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:51,920
are good reasons to do it, not to do it,
that sort of thing. And then

564
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:58,000
I'm adding on that because I think this
contributes a little bit. He's from

565
00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:05,119
Columbus always up in the city, this
country, rural roads, chip and seal, you

566
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:10,720
know, all that stuff. U got the railroad
tracks and the S curbs and all that

567
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:14,960
stuff. And those are uh hazards that
most of us are probably intimately

568
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:21,359
familiar with, but city guy maybe not so
much. So I'ms want to have him go out

569
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:28,400
and learn like physically learn both to
map to know where he is but also know

570
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:33,599
where the hazards are in a 5 mile radius
of here and bring we can build on that

571
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:38,079
later
all of this stuff will be done within

572
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:44,319
the next six months that's the plan
anyways he's also on no pursuit

573
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:50,160
he's banned from pursuit
right now until we revisit after

574
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:54,960
training the mayor and I are satisfied
and you know maybe at that time we'll

575
00:53:51,680 --> 00:54:00,000
revisit it. Also I don't know if I had
mentioned in previous reports or not

576
00:53:57,359 --> 00:54:08,079
told the mayor about it. I did locate
four police grade in cars used other

577
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:12,880
departments that are very good.
They're an older model. They stopped

578
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:18,079
updating them I think in 2020 but
there's something wrong with them. Uh, I

579
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:22,800
got a fourack of them for 155 bucks plus
shipping. It's really cheap. Cheap

580
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:26,720
enough to take a risk off of eBay. Uh,
all the photos and everything look

581
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,480
really good. I contacted the
manufacturer, Digital Ally. They're

582
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:35,359
willing to sell us their obsolete
software, which isn't really required,

583
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:41,440
but it's good to have because what it
will do is it puts a whole bunch of data

584
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:45,839
into the video. So, you know, if you
watch cops or whatever and it has like

585
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:50,160
the strip of D like maybe GPS
coordinates, date, time, officer name,

586
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:53,680
car number, department,
and then might have other things you

587
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:58,880
don't know what they mean. Those are all
inputs into the system. So it can

588
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:03,680
indicate on the video, is the lights on,
is the siren on, was the brake

589
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:07,920
activated. All that kind of input data
would go into without the software. It

590
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:13,440
does not do that. It's just a regular
kind of like a camera video. And it's

591
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,240
also has
like

592
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:21,680
stuff built into the metadata. I'll
understand all that techy stuff, but

593
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:26,960
basically you can prove at a court level
that this is original video, not edited,

594
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:31,680
that kind of stuff. So, in order to get
that obsolete software from them, I

595
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:37,520
think they want to charge a $650 one
time fee. It's a standalone

596
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:42,480
uh computer level software and then we
have to take the SD cards out of the

597
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:47,520
camera system, put in the computer and
do that. So, After I check all four of

598
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:51,520
those cameras and if they're good to go,
which they said even if they're not,

599
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:54,880
it's probably just like a watch battery
type of thing that's in it could be

600
00:55:52,799 --> 00:55:59,599
replaced. It'll probably be fine if we
swap that out. But they check them if

601
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:02,599
it's good. The plan is if everybody's
finance,

602
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:16,720
whatever you want to say.
We currently do have dash cams. A lot of

603
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:22,880
police departments don't. Um it was a
big thing back like when I started we

604
00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:27,280
had dash cam VHS but the dash cams were
all rave. Well then it kind of switched

605
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:31,760
to body cams and then people went away
from the dash cams.

606
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:35,040
You lose a lot by not having a dash cam
because you can activate this all you

607
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:38,960
want to and you get a nice picture of
your steering wheel

608
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:43,359
» and the computer and your dashboard, but
you can't see over the dash what's going

609
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:47,520
on and all that stuff. So, there's no
real way of knowing

610
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:51,520
what the officer is seeing through the
body.

611
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:59,760
So, these are good and definitely have
replaced but I think that's a good idea.

612
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:04,480
So, That's that whole thing. The ICE
agreement, you guys approve that's been

613
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,920
executed. They sign there and they send
it back. We're basically just in a

614
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:15,920
training phase right now. We have to do
40 hours of online uh class to become

615
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:21,440
educated in the area to their liking.
Once that happens, we become quote

616
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:26,559
operational in their system. Um and then
once we start to actually

617
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:31,599
um assist them on things and they become
eligible for the funding that was passed

618
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:35,920
the big beautiful bill and that if I
didn't detail that out did talk to them

619
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:39,920
a little bit more.
So they will uh I don't want to use the

620
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:45,200
word grant because they don't use the
word grant but it's basically one time

621
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:48,720
upfront introductory.
You get $100,000 for equipment for

622
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:54,400
helping them out. no strength of passion
receipts to turn in and I think

623
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:58,480
and then from any compensated officer
who can't be an auxiliary that gets no

624
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:01,359
money but they're part-time or fulltime
and there's no that I can see hour

625
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:07,280
requirement or whatever it's just they
got to be parttime or fulltime

626
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:13,359
um that's trained and participates in
the program high school uh reimburse the

627
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:18,960
village again without any string it's
$15,000 per officer and they said you

628
00:58:17,359 --> 00:58:23,440
can have one to a million officers.
That's their quote if they told me on

629
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:29,040
the phone. Um, and it's a quarterly
thing. And they said they have funding

630
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:34,480
guaranteed through 2029.
So that would equate to every every

631
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:40,559
officer that we get trained and
participates in any way, it would be

632
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:46,000
annually $60,000
>> per per each officer.

633
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:50,079
Uh and like I said, that's they can't
predict what will happen past 2029.

634
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:54,240
There have to be future legislation to
shore that up, but you know, in that

635
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:59,680
time frame,
uh they said there's no issue on that.

636
00:58:56,799 --> 00:59:04,000
Then it will go one step further
and if uh we're doing anything actually

637
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,680
with them. So let's say we're
transporting someone to

638
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,280
the county.

639
00:59:13,359 --> 00:59:19,520
It's down south beside Cincinnat.
County, right?

640
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:23,760
» Yeah, they are a big regional housing
area and that's where and Columbus is up

641
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:29,280
in the air right now whether they're
going to be able to continue to house

642
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:34,319
people but so we may be tasked with we
catch someone driving down the county or

643
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:38,480
whatever dropping them off. So it might
be like a 4 hour deal. Anyway, the clock

644
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:42,559
starts whenever we get involved with it.
If it's a traffic stop, whatever, that

645
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:48,640
whole time they'll reimburse if we want
to turn it in any

646
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:55,440
case, whatever, we just got to basically
itemize power, whatever. Send it in and

647
00:59:51,760 --> 01:00:01,280
they'll pay that back, too.
So then

648
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:05,200
next item contract is seems to be going
good. I've not really heard any

649
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:09,839
complaints except for the people that
want to fight with us and go to jail.

650
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:16,720
But the village council down there seems
to be happy. Um I've been going to their

651
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:20,160
council meetings. I just went Monday
and have any complaints or questions

652
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:27,200
really about anything. They seem to be
happy. So that's that's good. year to

653
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:32,480
date we're well through February we're
435 total calls that's combined that's

654
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:35,680
pretty us
I have a broke down for you on that but

655
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:40,480
some of the extra stuff that's not on
your list

656
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:43,680
um I did go around we had talked about
this in previous years I think I don't

657
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:48,079
know if this last month or two months
ago but it reminded me about the

658
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:53,359
basketball hoop problem on second street
first street the road so I went around

659
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:56,559
put warning hangers on
the houses that have I talked to some

660
01:00:55,040 --> 01:01:01,200
people through their ring some people in
person some people call on the phone

661
01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:05,839
some call the village office I wrote a
note on the back of my all I got to do

662
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:11,200
the road that's all we really care the
hoop and the whole thing out of the

663
01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:14,400
pavement we don't care
you know we could get on right away

664
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:19,359
issue if you really want to I don't
think anybody really cares about that

665
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:26,440
time but it is an obstruction it really
is most of them have moved

666
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,440
There's a couple stri

667
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:39,280
on vacation in Florida. I guess that was
pre hiring him full time. He's not here

668
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:42,400
until Saturday. Not this Saturday. Next
week

669
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:47,119
we will be hired for part time. I
thought I had a guy hired

670
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:53,839
or he's going to come and do a ride
around and then all of a sudden he uh

671
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:57,839
got a something from a fire school that
he applied to and got accepted into

672
01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:04,319
that. So now he
tried to manage that and his fulltime

673
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:11,520
job sheriff's office. So he said he
wanted to revisit with us after fire. So

674
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:18,240
what we'll probably end up doing is put
up to cover the part.

675
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:23,200
Um, and then I did get
there's some pictures. I don't know if

676
01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:28,160
any of you know or heard of Ryan Hall,
y'all. He's a weather guy on YouTube.

677
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:34,480
pretty.
uh they are looking to put 100 cameras

678
01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:39,599
out throughout the country
on towers and they will provide whoever

679
01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:44,000
allows them to do that unlimited use of
the camera for whatever they would need

680
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:48,720
it for whether it's just a live stream
of the town or you know it catches

681
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:53,760
traffic and we need it or the weather
whatever you want to do I don't know

682
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:57,920
interested in doing that or not probably
would be the old tower it's got more

683
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:01,760
mounting capability
internet because they didn't inquire

684
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:08,559
about that. We do not have internet at
either one of them as far as Tony, but

685
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:13,440
the old tower I can potentially if you
agree to put a camera I think it might

686
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:17,880
be cool to have live stream or whatever
and might be useful to the police too.

687
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:29,760
I think it would be the west for the
weather. Um, I probably have the tower.

688
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:33,760
So, if you want to do if you want to
allow that, I don't know if there's

689
01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:41,880
going to be some kind of agreement or
contract or whatever.

690
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,880
So, you want to use

691
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:52,400
it and I don't mind using
that. So, that's just something for you

692
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:56,640
guys to consider.
has been kind of crazy this week

693
01:03:54,079 --> 01:04:00,599
throughout the country. So, we've been
having emails back and forth.

694
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:14,000
So, that's really all I have. If you
have questions, I'll take them.

695
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:23,119
I think as far as the insurance plan may
talk about that, but we haven't

696
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:28,119
decision
that

697
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:28,119
questions.

698
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:36,799
» What? So, um, they thought what happened
in this explorer? What was the part that

699
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,440
they found in the field?
>> It's called a coil spring.

700
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,440
» Coil spring.
>> Yeah.

701
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,200
Yeah,
>> but it looks like it's in pretty good

702
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:52,240
shape, but it clearly broke off the
vehicle and there's really no damage to

703
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:56,240
the vehicle's exterior where it would be
mounted. Like it's not like that area is

704
01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:01,440
torn up or anything.
>> They normally don't come out.

705
01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:04,440
» Yeah, I know. So I
goog

706
01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:26,799
and whatever else then what attaches at
the top of the block I guess may not be

707
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:34,200
meant to go that direction. So they said
spring out of the car and

708
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:34,200
again with this hypothesis of AI

709
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:46,119
» right

710
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:57,119
surely you will lose control
>> I was just curious because sometimes you

711
01:05:55,520 --> 01:06:01,119
can also find where different
manufacturers had defects that were

712
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:04,760
reported to
>> Yeah. And I don't know.

713
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:13,760
They may have them as far as like it
doesn't look like it's in that bad

714
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:15,200
shape. It looks like it's black. You
know, it's not rusted.

715
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,880
» Yeah.
>> All the way out. The top and bottom is

716
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:23,680
probably where the problem was where it
attaches.

717
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:27,599
» Cruiser carries could have over timely
just compressed or something just by a

718
01:06:25,839 --> 01:06:31,920
fraction.
caused that separation to

719
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:35,640
» I did talk to
about it and he said

720
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,799
» I looked at the area multiple times

721
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:51,839
I mean there's a transition there
>> it's just not quite as dramatic as I

722
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:57,920
thought it was when I came down road I
was looking at it through the field like

723
01:06:54,799 --> 01:07:02,160
it's that bad but Uh he did say when he
came down on the air side he could not

724
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:05,720
keep on the road. He said he was trying
to keep on road.

725
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:13,200
» Yeah. I just was wondering because I
know we've had different things our own

726
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:16,480
personal cars and then you literally
research it and find that

727
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:19,920
» recall or something
>> there's problems. So I'm just going to

728
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,640
be nosy.
>> Yeah, that's fine. And

729
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:27,280
» because there could have just it might
not even be anything to do with him. It

730
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:30,960
could literally be I don't know how many
times

731
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:35,440
» like and then some of the companies
don't recall them. My husband had an oil

732
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:38,799
leak, found out that in Canada they
recalled it but not in the US because it

733
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,440
didn't get cold enough here but it still
happening to cars here.

734
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,920
» Yeah.
>> So I'm just saying like you do come

735
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:49,280
across things. I'm not saying that
that's what it is. I'm just wondering.

736
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:54,880
» I don't either. I don't you know it it
seems plausible the fact that it's okay

737
01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:57,520
why did that happen and
>> I don't know

738
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:02,319
» if a spring mount sheared off I was like
well clearly oh there's your source but

739
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:06,799
that was still tag
>> yeah I agreed

740
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:09,839
» I mean
>> we didn't think to have a technical

741
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:13,440
crash reconstruction done or whatever
and that would have been time consuming

742
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,080
and a big deal
>> I don't think it would have been worth

743
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,799
the one anyway but
>> maybe if there was injuries or something

744
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:22,719
like
that

745
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:27,839
» I got a call question. That's right.
>> Okay. So, I'm looking up recalls

746
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:30,640
» and on the 2017 Ford Police Interceptor
utility, they have several major

747
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:34,799
recalls, most notably for rear
suspension tow link fractures.

748
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,719
» There you go. That's what I was going to
look up.

749
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:39,839
» Okay.
>> I'm telling you, is the tow link is the

750
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,960
toe link part of the coil spring or is
it close to each other?

751
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:44,799
» It is a It is a rear coil spring. I
don't know.

752
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:47,759
» The toe link is the part that goes from
the axle to the frame.

753
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:50,319
» Uhhuh. And then the coil spring sits
between the axle and the frame here.

754
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:56,159
» Yeah. Vroom vroom.
>> Yeah. That's all triangulation.

755
01:08:54,799 --> 01:08:58,960
» I'm just saying there's a recall with
tow link suspension part. So I'm just

756
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:00,719
saying.
>> We're just saying.

757
01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:04,759
» I didn't even Google.
>> We're we're just letting you know.

758
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:10,960
» I don't know if it means anything, but
hey,

759
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:15,199
» just so you know. Kane did text me.
I'm very sorry.

760
01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:18,319
» We We are sure. We're just saying we
didn't have a conversation the day

761
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:21,600
before all this happened, but I'm saying
>> we're just glad he's okay. I mean,

762
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:24,000
» was the guy was here with you last
month.

763
01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:28,440
» And in all honesty, he's done a lot of
good work. So, I mean,

764
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:34,719
» only thing I was going to comment on is
um before you go into any type of

765
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:37,120
agreement with that video camera guy, it
does need to be passed by an ordinance.

766
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,159
We would have to have a contract or
something to protect our property to

767
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:45,120
allow that and stuff like that. I'll
talk to them and say, "So, what's the

768
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:46,239
what's the interested go
up?" And then,

769
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:49,920
» yeah.
>> Yep. Yeah. Well, we actually have a

770
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:53,920
sample agreement because remember that
used to have the cellular to or the

771
01:09:51,679 --> 01:09:56,640
internet towers on it. Um, so we still
have that as a sample.

772
01:09:55,440 --> 01:10:01,040
» Um, and then
>> it's a possibility this camera's got a

773
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:03,840
cell card in it. Yeah. Might even
>> as we move forward, we may have an

774
01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:07,520
attorney that will be able to help guide
us through that, too.

775
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:11,920
» Yeah, we may.
Not only could it be for you, it I mean

776
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:15,679
it might figure out weather before it
gets here or tell us what happened when

777
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:21,520
the weather came through or
>> Yeah. live stream. We don't want that.

778
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:25,600
» Yeah, we do.
>> All right. Any questions for Nick?

779
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,520
» All right.
>> Do we need to vote on the cameras now

780
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:29,679
or?
>> No, we don't have a contract.

781
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:36,159
» Okay.
>> All right. Um before we go into old

782
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:41,280
business, um John Brown here, um we'll
kind of we really haven't dove into any

783
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:47,679
of this yet. So, first thing I do want
to bring up to council, but uh on March

784
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:51,280
3rd, 2026, we did get uh a termination
letter from our current solicitor,

785
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:59,679
Bradley Nicodemus, giving us 30-day
notice. Um in his notice, he says we um

786
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:05,360
do uh have someone before the 30 days.
He will terminate early once the meeting

787
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:09,520
is fully transferred.
If we don't receive counsel in 30 days,

788
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:14,640
he's willing to extend his contract for
30 more days as well. So those are the

789
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:21,520
the two options that he um provided in
his resignation letter. Um so leading up

790
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:25,120
to this moment after uh Brad and I spoke
um I did start calling around just to

791
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:31,679
you know figure out what we need to do
because we have to have a solicitor, we

792
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:35,840
have to have a prosecutor. Um and um
yeah, so I reached out to multiple

793
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:38,800
people. Um a lot of people just aren't
interested in in representing small

794
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,679
villages. I even reached out to other
villages to find out who they're using.

795
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,560
And a couple villages are like, "Well,
we're looking for people, too. We can't

796
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:48,080
get rid of our solicitor because we
can't find, you know, like um you know,

797
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:52,880
our solicitor wants to retire, but we
can't let him because we can't find

798
01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:57,280
someone." Um found John. Uh Village of
Rushville uses him. Um, and I'll

799
01:11:55,040 --> 01:12:00,239
introduce John and uh let him introduce
himself a little bit further and we can

800
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:03,520
do any questions or whatever else we
want to do.

801
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:09,520
» Who wants to go first?
>> Hi, John.

802
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:14,000
» I'll ask experience. So, um,
>> how far back?

803
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:18,400
» Um, and and I would say at least in my
interest is like on the prosecutor side

804
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:21,920
like interest on
>> background you have there.

805
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:26,560
» Uh, when I came out of law school, I
went to the high school court and law

806
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:32,080
for the Supreme Court. From there, I
went to the Franklin County Prosecutor's

807
01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:36,560
Office and tried everything from uh
traffic case, juvenile traffic cases to

808
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:42,480
death penalty murder cases.
um

809
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:48,719
ended up my career at the prosecutor's
office as the uh before they started

810
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:55,679
calling the special victims unit. I was
the head of the juvenile special victims

811
01:12:51,199 --> 01:13:02,480
unit which was just a horrible job. Um
very rewarding but very had a lot of

812
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:10,880
stress to it. So then I went to um
became a defense lawyer. I um

813
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:21,239
have seen so I have seen both sides of
uh criminal cases um state, federal and

814
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:21,239
local uh defended them. I have um

815
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:33,120
did that for about 10 years. In 2000 um
I in 2002 I started working at the

816
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:40,800
village of Lyopoulos as their solicitor
and I've been there ever since.

817
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:46,239
Uh I have also currently working for um
Rushel and for Frankfurt down in Ross

818
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:49,239
County.
Um

819
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:58,320
you know a fair question to ask any you
know look lawyers are like any other

820
01:13:54,560 --> 01:14:02,320
service provider. You know um when when
you go into any service you're allowed

821
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:06,239
to ask how long have you been doing
this?

822
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:11,199
um what are your qualifications?
Are you any good at it? You know, um if

823
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:16,320
you hire a plumber, those are all
questions you you should ask. Um and

824
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:21,360
frankly, each and every one of you is
going to at some time in your life have

825
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:25,920
a lawyer. U and you should not be afraid
to ask that lawyer the very first time

826
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:30,320
you meet them, what are your
qualifications? How long have you been

827
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:36,640
doing this? Is this the kind of work you
routinely do? Um Because otherwise in

828
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:43,199
the middle of the night at two, you go,
you know, is this person really any good

829
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:46,640
at this and and you know people as
consumers, you're afraid to ask, you

830
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:50,560
know, you never ask your doctor the same
questions. It's like, well, where'd you

831
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:55,280
go to medical school? You have a right
to ask that. And I encourage people to

832
01:14:52,719 --> 01:15:00,960
ask me when I hire when people come to
me. So in my I've been doing it a long

833
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:08,080
time. I've been doing it uh nearly 25
years. Um

834
01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:13,760
Uh people asked me to do it. Uh I've
been doing it for Lifeopolis. I've seen

835
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:17,719
them grow from to about 2500 residents
now. Um

836
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:23,760
that brings me up to date. You know,
about two weeks ago, I got a phone call

837
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:28,320
from the mayor asked if I'd be
interested.

838
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:32,320
Yeah, I'd be interested. I mean, I this
is

839
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:37,920
and one of the nice things that I found
about working for villages

840
01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:42,719
um is everyone's kind of pulling in the
same direction. You know, everyone's

841
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:47,360
kind of working toward a common goal and
so much of the practice of law is

842
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:51,120
basically combat and you know, fighting
with somebody. It's nice to have a

843
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:54,640
client where you're all kind of working
toward a common goal. So, I find that

844
01:15:52,640 --> 01:16:01,760
part rewarding.
Uh I have been um

845
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:07,360
the traffic prosecutor for Lyopoulos for
20ome years. I

846
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:11,280
like I said I' I've done both sides of
this. I also do criminal defense work

847
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:14,560
from time to time.
Um

848
01:16:12,719 --> 01:16:19,600
» one of my questions too is background
like in zoning like if we have problems

849
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:21,920
in zoning like
>> sure

850
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:25,600
» have you worked on that where there
might be issues that Let me ask you

851
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:28,080
this. Have you been working with the
county planning commission on their

852
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:34,159
zoning plan?
>> I have.

853
01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:38,480
» Yeah. Uh it's comprehensive. It is for
because it's comprehensive.

854
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:43,360
You know, a lot of what Holly has put
into the zoning doesn't really apply to

855
01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:47,280
villages. You know, it applies more to
the county or to the townships. Um but

856
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:54,080
yeah, we're working through those same
issues. Um

857
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:59,840
no, most of the questions I I shot to
the mayor uh by email was do you have a

858
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:05,199
zoning code?
So yeah, I I try I encourage uh

859
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:13,760
communities to have zoning codes to have
building codes and to adhere to them.

860
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:18,159
People uh get worked up because you know
they don't like when the zoning works

861
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:21,159
against them. But if you don't have
zoning,

862
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:28,080
your community falls apart. you don't
you end up having basketball hoops in

863
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:32,719
the alleys and stuff like that. So yeah,
I I try to stay up to date.

864
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:36,679
I try to work closely with my
communities and enforcing

865
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:46,480
the other thing that I'm a that I preach
is property maintenance plans as well.

866
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:51,040
um
in

867
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:57,040
Frankfurt in Ross County uh we've
started taking uh property owners to

868
01:17:53,679 --> 01:18:00,040
court to to get the judges to force them
to

869
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:09,040
» I shared with you we currently use IPMC
2012 that's the last update that we did

870
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:12,719
but for what we've used so far it still
fits what we need I know some of the

871
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:16,880
newer updates have probably more teeth
to it But for what we use it for, it's

872
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,640
worked, right?
>> But we've also talked about, okay, let's

873
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:25,040
start looking at, but again, for us to
read it and say, yes, that's where to

874
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:28,400
go, you know, we are not zoning people.
It may sound good, but when you go to

875
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,520
apply the law, it's like, well, you
should have waited or you should have

876
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,719
done this version versus that version,
>> right?

877
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:36,480
» So,
>> you know, and and again, that's one of

878
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:45,199
the things that I mentioned to the mayor
about is there are

879
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:52,400
innumerable ways communities as officers
as get in trouble to fall into these

880
01:18:48,640 --> 01:19:00,239
steps traps and
you know if you're not up to date on it

881
01:18:56,159 --> 01:19:06,400
zoning code and somebody cuts you out
you know touch base with that particular

882
01:19:02,719 --> 01:19:11,679
issue and you you're either done or you
start over and

883
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:17,000
it's wasted a lot of time a lot of money
and a lot People are really angry about

884
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,000
the whole thing.

885
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:30,560
» Any other questions for John?
>> All of you should have questions.

886
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:36,400
» You answered my question.
>> So, um, yeah, I mean, you know, we have

887
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:39,600
a police department. We have zoning. Um,
we run our own water plant. We're part

888
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:43,920
of a sewer district. So we don't have to
worry about

889
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:46,320
overall I think for the most part we're
a very conservative community

890
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:51,360
» right
>> um

891
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,960
and people tend to want us to govern
that way

892
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:56,880
» right
>> um for the most part now when I say that

893
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:59,760
we're not going to the far right of
anything

894
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:04,080
» but you know that's that's typically
where we're going to be at

895
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:08,560
are we going to get representation that
matches what the village residents

896
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:11,840
expect anticipate things like that
because again if we come in here and I

897
01:20:10,719 --> 01:20:15,199
use the words considerable liberal
because that's the easiest way to just

898
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:19,120
define two people. If we get someone in
here that's very liberal and things like

899
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:22,159
that overall I'm going to have a problem
because I have people coming to me like

900
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:26,560
oh they're too liberal this didn't care
the way you know we felt. So is that

901
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:30,080
something that that you feel comfortable
doing?

902
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:33,360
» Serve my client.
>> Okay.

903
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:36,080
» And you know if if this community is my
client I'm going to try and and meet

904
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:43,360
their needs.
>> Okay. uh you know and make sure that um

905
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:50,480
that first and foremost that it's
council council collectively that you

906
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:56,560
have um a base your ordinances in place
that you know is what do you know and

907
01:20:54,960 --> 01:21:01,760
some of it's going to be real simple you
know it's do you have a written credit

908
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:07,440
card policy
um do you have your training in place

909
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:13,040
because in my experience over the past.
The state auditor has become much more

910
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:19,760
strict about enforcing
what what once seemed inconsequential to

911
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:23,920
them. Now they're doing these audits and
they're saying, "Well, you don't have

912
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:28,080
this ordinance in place or even
show me the ordinance that supports this

913
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:31,520
cont." And if you don't have it in
place, they're going to make a finding

914
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:38,880
against the community.
>> Uh and and those things can build up

915
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:41,920
more to your point, am I going to be a a
liberal or

916
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:45,199
» Yeah. And I don't want to put it back to
terms, but I mean,

917
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:50,960
» I understand
or is my approach to um serving

918
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,760
communities.
>> Yeah, I sure hope so.

919
01:21:54,960 --> 01:22:04,080
» And I mean, so I've been doing this
since I was 18 years old this year. So

920
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:07,360
in that span of time I've served on
council as president council now as

921
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:12,159
mayor park board you know many many
different boards I can count on my hands

922
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:18,239
how many times an attorney has been at
one of our council meetings.

923
01:22:14,719 --> 01:22:24,560
» Yeah let me let me speak to that. Okay.
>> When when the mayor called me about

924
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:30,560
this, I he mentioned that um
you know, your your lawyer shows up when

925
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:35,679
he's called to be here or um when things
have gone bad. And it's always been my

926
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:39,760
if I'm going to be doing my job, I need
to be showing up at your council

927
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:44,719
meetings
every month so that I can kind of have

928
01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:52,320
my finger on the pulse of what's going
on and finding out what's important to

929
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:59,360
you, what the important issues are. Um
helping you uh understand why the law

930
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:04,719
says you have to do
and you know there

931
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:09,520
a radio commercial. It's like, you know,
you can

932
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:12,880
now you can pay me now or you can pay me
later.

933
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:19,440
It's a lot easier to keep you out of
trouble than it gets you out of trouble

934
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:23,520
because getting you out of trouble
means

935
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:26,760
you know
you have

936
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,679
the law down on you

937
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,840
contractors

938
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:45,960
saying you know have we all you
Is the ordinance written the right way?

939
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:54,800
You know, I think I think one of my jobs
is to not only show up and be here as

940
01:23:52,480 --> 01:24:00,480
often as I reasonably can, but is to
help you write contracts, write, write

941
01:23:57,679 --> 01:24:04,719
resolutions
so that we're we're filling we're

942
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:08,480
filling it all
with. And I I hate using on our own. If

943
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,120
we would send Mr. Brown and say, "Hey,
do this." Yeah,

944
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:16,480
» it would get done.
>> But even before Brad, you know, it was

945
01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:20,400
basically you write it up and you pass
it, it's law was what we were always

946
01:24:18,639 --> 01:24:26,239
told. Not what Brad told us, but what
prior told us. Um, and as we've talked

947
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:29,280
about, things are stickier now.
>> Um, yes.

948
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:33,520
» So, yes, we've been writing our own
ordinances. We love them. We've not got

949
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,679
a problem with them, but who knows 10
years down the about tomorrow,

950
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:39,840
» right?
>> Um, so to have someone to be I'm just

951
01:24:37,679 --> 01:24:43,840
gonna say hold our hand through this and
it make me feel better.

952
01:24:41,199 --> 01:24:46,639
» Well, yeah. I'm I'm not here to step on
the toes of whoever's drafting your

953
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:50,000
ordinances,
>> but at the same time, if that person

954
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:52,800
were to say to me,
>> hey, would you help write me help me

955
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:56,239
write this? Yeah.
>> Happy to write.

956
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:59,760
» And frankly, what I would say is, I'll
write it. I'm going to give it back to

957
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:02,800
you and ask you to proof read it. So,
court if that person says, "Hey, proof

958
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:05,120
read this for me."
>> It's always nice to have two sets of

959
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:08,880
eyes looking.
>> It is. Um, and I think what we're going

960
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:12,239
to find through our next journey with
whoever attorney is is we're going to

961
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,320
find we have a lot of great patchwork,
but we don't have everything quilted

962
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,920
together.
>> Um, I think that's what we're going to

963
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:22,639
be missing. It's not to my knowledge, we
don't have anything that's like damning,

964
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:27,280
but A, B, and C,
>> but you didn't go to the next step or

965
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:32,159
you done A and C and you forgot B.
Issues. And it' be nice to have someone

966
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:36,000
to be like, "Okay, good start. You you
stopped too early."

967
01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:42,520
communities used to be able to get along
with handshake deals and frankly work.

968
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:54,960
» You know there's a things have evolved
to the point where people are using

969
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:59,120
algorithms to check your emails or to
check your emails for one thing

970
01:25:56,480 --> 01:26:02,080
» but to make sure that your um public
meetings have been public properly

971
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:08,840
posted
>> and They're going out and suing

972
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:08,840
communities um because

973
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:19,040
you can do that now. They sue you and
you know what happens is the maximum

974
01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:24,400
fine $500
which you know you could you want to you

975
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:30,639
could but it also carries the risk of
paying this person who's sitting

976
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:34,880
somewhere their attorney's fees.
That's kind of what you know, handshake

977
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:38,159
deals used to work.
>> They don't work anymore.

978
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:42,400
» We have a couple auditors,
self-proclaimed auditors county who've

979
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:46,560
reached out to us a couple times.
Luckily,

980
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:51,760
we comply. It's easier to do comply
because it's all public record anyway.

981
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:54,639
» Um, and we've even gotten feedback from
them like we wish every community was

982
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:58,159
like that this versus fighting us. It's
like, well, it's easier to give you what

983
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:00,880
you legally can have versus try to fight
you because it's not nothing secret,

984
01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:02,560
» right?
>> So,

985
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:09,199
» nothing here should be secret.
>> Yeah, exactly. Um, so, anyone else have

986
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,800
any questions, comments? Okay. Um,
>> informative.

987
01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:17,199
» I'm sorry.
>> Just saying he's been very informative.

988
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:20,000
» Yeah. Um, so finances, let's talk about
that because it's going to be a big, it

989
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:24,480
should be a big part of our conversation
with this. So, I'm going to go back in

990
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:28,000
history. So, you know, when I first
started, we had an attorney. We just

991
01:27:25,679 --> 01:27:32,880
paid $200 a month for retainer and we
got $200 worth of work out of it. His

992
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:37,199
practice is awesome, but was this wasn't
his niche. Um, replacing him with Brad.

993
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:41,920
Brad's a great awesome guy. Things like
that. Um,

994
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:45,920
he charges by the hour, $100 an hour as
needed. And so, we spent8 to $10,000 a

995
01:27:44,639 --> 01:27:51,360
year with him. And that included
bringing in mayor's court. um with John,

996
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:58,000
his contract, which everyone should have
a copy of it, is for $36,000

997
01:27:55,440 --> 01:28:05,760
» $39,000 for 13 months.
>> For 13 months. Um

998
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:09,360
$3,000 a month. Um so it's a lot more
than what we've are accustomed to

999
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:13,679
paying. Now, things that we've always
agreed on is people are worth what

1000
01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:17,679
they're worth, right? Um we don't pay
minimum wage to our employees because

1001
01:28:15,679 --> 01:28:22,800
they're worth more than that.
um with John based on conversations

1002
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:28,880
talking to other villages he represents
like 247 we got his number hopefully we

1003
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:31,600
don't call him 247 but I mean it's that
type he's going to be on our ordinances

1004
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:35,440
our zoning he's going to be helping out
with that you know like there's going to

1005
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:40,639
be a lot more pieces of parts that we're
paying for up front that is going to

1006
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:44,080
make us a better community and it's
going to keep improving us so you know

1007
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:47,760
my goal is to do better than the last
mayor Jack done an awesome job I hope to

1008
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:51,679
do better than I hope the person after
me does a better job than me and I think

1009
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:55,600
this will get us in that right step and
move us forward to make sure that we are

1010
01:28:53,440 --> 01:29:00,800
doing the best we can to protect the
village as a whole.

1011
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:06,719
» So question um so not that I don't think
you would do a great job but if we would

1012
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:09,920
foresee that it wasn't working is there
a cl is there reasons or clauses that we

1013
01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:15,280
could
>> Yes. So it's a one-year contract

1014
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:20,159
upfront. Um, now just to put this out
here and at first, so if the contract is

1015
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:25,520
cut short by us or him, we still owe the
full amount. The contract is for $39,000

1016
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:30,639
for the year. Um, and then under section
7 and section 8 is the termination

1017
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:37,440
clauses for both the village. Uh,
basically misconduct or good cause would

1018
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:41,920
be our reason. um and just uh you know
shorten it, you can change the wording,

1019
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:44,639
but basically if he comes out say you
can't do this, you can't do this and we

1020
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:48,719
do it, he has a right to protect himself
and walk out the door because you know

1021
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:53,400
why why deal with a bunch of people that
don't want to take their legal advice

1022
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:53,400
that they're paying for

1023
01:29:53,679 --> 01:29:59,600
your point.
I'm going to give you my best advice.

1024
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:03,120
» Whether you choose to do that or not is
up to you. Y

1025
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,800
» um I'm not going to walk out simply
because you don't take my advice.

1026
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:09,440
» Yeah.
>> You know it. Um

1027
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:12,960
» if we become like a hostile
>> I'm willing to I'm willing to put my

1028
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:16,719
legal opinions in writing for you. I'm
willing to tell you what the basis for

1029
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:22,719
this is and I'm telling you willing to
tell you what the risk is. Part of my

1030
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:30,639
job is is to
one of the real risks for not following

1031
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:35,760
um legal advice is that there is a
possibility that notwithstanding the

1032
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:39,880
fact that you all have insurance
all be held personally responsible.

1033
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:49,000
It's like, wow. Hey, back up.

1034
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:07,080
I've seen it.

1035
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:16,239
Um,
because of that risk, I'm going to your

1036
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:24,480
phone calls 24 hours a day, seven days a
week. I take I answer phone calls.

1037
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:31,040
I respond to emails um and text me text
messages

1038
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:37,440
uh nearly instantly. Um if you leave me
a message or phone call, I'm going to

1039
01:31:33,679 --> 01:31:41,679
call respond certainly within 24 hours.
And if you send me a text,

1040
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:47,840
you know, that's realistically that's
how I most often respond. And and that

1041
01:31:44,239 --> 01:31:54,080
would be for any of the council members,
um, chief of police, his officers, uh,

1042
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:58,960
your village administrator. If you have
a legal question, I'm here to help. See

1043
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,520
if I can help you through.
>> So, couple things.

1044
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:06,719
» It's better than what we had.
>> Yeah. So, a couple things. And luckily,

1045
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:09,120
like I'm going to say we do a good job.
I'm not going to say we do the best job

1046
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,719
because again, everyone makes mistakes
and we only know what we know, right?

1047
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:16,960
Um, you know, we talked about Sunshine
Law um last month because we have new

1048
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:20,639
members to take that was one of John's
first questions was did everyone take

1049
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:24,560
it? Everyone's taking our new ones and
we'll be doing the online training. Then

1050
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:29,199
he comes back and he's like, well, have
you guys done all of your cyber security

1051
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:34,320
and cyber attack um classes because they
are due by June 1st, right? Y

1052
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:37,440
» and it's like we have stuff in place but
this is the first time I ever heard that

1053
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:41,280
it's now a state requirement. Everything
has to be done by June 1st. We are

1054
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:45,520
working on that. We got a class set up
um March 20th I believe it is. So like

1055
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:48,719
but again without having been our
attorney he's like here's the things

1056
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,600
just right off like do you even know
about this? Um and that means a lot you

1057
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,960
know
>> I think we were getting pretty baseline

1058
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,719
service as it was.
>> Can I call you Michelle?

1059
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,920
» Yes you can.
>> Okay. You know, Michelle, the thing is

1060
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:03,600
is that
first of all, if your lawyer's not

1061
01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:07,199
showing up, he doesn't know what you
don't what you know or don't know,

1062
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:11,440
right?
You don't know you're in trouble until

1063
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:16,960
it's too late and you pick up the phone
and you're the first on your mind is

1064
01:33:13,679 --> 01:33:22,560
he's charging me by the hour
and and that dissuades that everyone

1065
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:26,719
backs off because you know I don't want
to be I don't want to start the car

1066
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:32,639
because I don't know where it stops and
that's why

1067
01:33:29,679 --> 01:33:39,120
for a community want to encourage people
to to pick up the phone and call me and

1068
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:42,560
Let's see if we can stay ahead of the
bad stuff.

1069
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:49,760
» I would have to say that when you think
about it, $20 an hour before that's only

1070
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:50,880
30 hours. It comes up to 3,000. Am I
right?

1071
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:56,480
» Yeah.
>> $30,000. Sorry. All of a sudden, I was

1072
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:59,600
like, I'm not ming. Um, that's only 30
hours. If we have a problem, 30 hours

1073
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:04,639
goes real fast.
>> Yeah.

1074
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:09,040
» I mean, if we're thinking about it.
Well, also if you have questions and you

1075
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:14,159
need extra time, you'll feel like you
can ask the questions where I

1076
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:18,000
» I honestly feel like maybe we were
because of cost instead we were not

1077
01:34:16,639 --> 01:34:22,560
maybe like
>> always getting all the

1078
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:25,040
» So I I actually think it sounds good to
me but that's everybody else too.

1079
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:31,280
» Go through a couple
>> just just the idea of having someone

1080
01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:33,280
that we can call and all all
>> can actually start moving things

1081
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,880
forward.
>> Yeah. I feel like that'll help

1082
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:42,080
» that we've been just sort of doing our
best at I mean we're all very smart

1083
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:48,280
people here but have education so I mean
we're not smart but that doesn't mean

1084
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:48,280
make us smart in ordinances

1085
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:54,320
» I mean because we've got all kinds of
things

1086
01:34:52,800 --> 01:35:00,719
» yeah lots of things
>> one of the most interesting things I

1087
01:34:56,480 --> 01:35:06,800
found for communities is you can't just
know how to build widgets

1088
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:09,800
You have to know the contract
just

1089
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:22,040
enough to know
I know

1090
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,679
to Cory's

1091
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:45,520
All right. So, just to touch on the
contract going down through it. Um, this

1092
01:35:43,199 --> 01:35:53,679
contract would commence today for
$39,000 in 13 monthly installments of

1093
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:59,040
$3,000 a month um on or before the 30th
of each year. for payment being due at

1094
01:35:55,600 --> 01:36:04,639
the end of this month. Um, we also agree
to participate in OPERS for John, which

1095
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:10,960
would be an additional cost to us for
that. Um, he would be a W2 employee. Um,

1096
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:15,520
anything outside of the contract, he
would become a contractor at $150 an

1097
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:19,199
hour and he'd be $1099 for that. Um,
that's section 4, extraordinary legal

1098
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:21,199
services. Um, hopefully we never have
anything like that, but you never know

1099
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:26,400
what's going to come up.
>> Falls under that. It happens.

1100
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:29,280
» But what what falls under extraordinary
>> if I have

1101
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:32,880
» like what have you seen fall
>> right?

1102
01:36:30,719 --> 01:36:39,280
» Um
uh somebody sued the community of

1103
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:44,800
Rushville in in small claims court.
having to smoke. Um the getting

1104
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:50,239
injunctions to tell people to clean up
their property uh

1105
01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:56,960
in common police court and I build
$1,000.

1106
01:36:52,159 --> 01:37:04,000
Uh trust me, I blew through um 10 hours
on that very very quickly, but I didn't,

1107
01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:07,679
you know, I didn't build the $3,500 it
cost. Um,

1108
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:10,800
» so basically if our zoning stuff goes
through the mayor's court, it falls

1109
01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:16,719
under this.
>> If you have zoning issues,

1110
01:37:14,639 --> 01:37:21,280
step by step, you know, if you have
zoning issues, first it's going to go to

1111
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:22,960
the board of zoning appeals,
>> which is you.

1112
01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:26,560
» Yeah.
>> Then it's going to go to council, which

1113
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,119
is you.
>> Yeah.

1114
01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:35,440
» And then there's the potential that it
could end court. Um, but

1115
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:39,520
I've never been to court on a zoning
issue.

1116
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:43,600
» Okay. And if if we have questions though
about zoning issues, we can ask those

1117
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:47,840
and that falls under the regular
>> to me to me going to court where we've

1118
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:50,800
decided to sue somebody.
>> Okay.

1119
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:57,280
» Okay.
>> You know, if uh if we get turned into

1120
01:37:54,800 --> 01:38:01,199
the Ohio Civil Rights Commission or the
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission

1121
01:37:59,119 --> 01:38:05,840
or somebody like that, something that's
really

1122
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:13,199
beyond.
I I haven't seen that happen.

1123
01:38:08,480 --> 01:38:21,960
You know, I don't I have in 22 years
over three communities, I've probably

1124
01:38:16,159 --> 01:38:21,960
gone on an hour basis three times.

1125
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:27,159
» What I tell you

1126
01:38:31,679 --> 01:38:34,320
exception

1127
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:41,920
There are some
circumstances where the state

1128
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:47,840
legislature has said that I have to go
to

1129
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:52,159
you know it's it's your fault to to fund
me or not fun

1130
01:38:50,719 --> 01:38:55,800
» be individual contracts essentially
outside of this one.

1131
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:01,199
Do we have the funding in place for this
amount already?

1132
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:04,880
» Um, so our current budget doesn't have
this funding in it, but we can pull

1133
01:39:02,639 --> 01:39:08,880
money out of what I always call our
reserves type thing. Um, and then add it

1134
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:12,080
into there. So, yes,
>> there's nothing.

1135
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:16,239
» Yes, there's nothing cover that.
>> Um, and then once we figure some stuff

1136
01:39:14,719 --> 01:39:21,280
out, some of this cost will also be
shared with out of Mayor's court, which

1137
01:39:17,679 --> 01:39:28,159
has its own perks, per se, to help pay
for legal fees. Um, you know,

1138
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:33,119
because I would be offering advice on a
wide variety of issues. You know, you're

1139
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:39,199
welcome to to pick at least a percentage
of my funding through water and sewer.

1140
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:43,360
» Yep.
>> Yeah. Typically what we've what we've

1141
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:47,040
done since especially since I've taken
over for we've taken all those little

1142
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:49,679
hits off of all these little random
because everyone likes to hit the parks

1143
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:52,960
and that you don't have money for
lifeguards you know some something you

1144
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:56,480
need and you're just trying to split the
cost for no reason. So a lot of times we

1145
01:39:54,719 --> 01:40:00,400
just hit general fund unless it hits
like

1146
01:39:57,119 --> 01:40:03,920
» you know Sam works for both
>> and water billing so she split three

1147
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:07,840
different ways because that makes sense
but the little tiny stuff we don't sweat

1148
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:12,000
that I guess you know to break it out as
much. Um because then you don't have

1149
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:17,119
funding for what you actually need to do
the work um type thing. Um all right. So

1150
01:40:16,159 --> 01:40:18,800
any questions?
>> Um I have one.

1151
01:40:18,239 --> 01:40:22,480
» Okay.
>> Would you be attending mayor's court

1152
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:28,880
like regularly or just
>> I would be the prosecutor mayor's court.

1153
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:33,760
» Okay. And you'd be here not by phone?
>> I I don't understand it by phone.

1154
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:39,440
» Okay. Has that been the
>> So our our current situation that we had

1155
01:40:36,639 --> 01:40:45,679
with our solicitor is we would submit
the cases to him and then he would do

1156
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:52,400
the plea deals in writing for us um
convey to the to the

1157
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:59,119
» you know I've met Sam
>> 30 minutes ago. I haven't shunated

1158
01:40:56,480 --> 01:41:04,320
a couple times. I don't know how she
runs her court, but a couple things.

1159
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:09,840
First and foremost, in my experience,
it's the clerk who is the king in in the

1160
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:18,080
court in in the courtroom on mayor's
court. U and I'm not going to upset her

1161
01:41:14,639 --> 01:41:23,440
apple card, but I am going to be here. I
am plan on being here twice a month for

1162
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:28,800
run, not not phoning it,
>> which will be helpful because um just

1163
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:33,440
because I've one other thing is I am
stepping back from being the magistrate.

1164
01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:37,040
Um Kylie who is on is a magistrate for
us that we've hired. She will be coming

1165
01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:41,199
on full-time to be doing those and I'll
be backing off. I'm gonna keep up my

1166
01:41:38,639 --> 01:41:44,880
training just in case some weird crappy
stuff happens. John's gonna tell me not

1167
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:47,280
to ever sit behind this desk. Don't
don't ever sit behind there,

1168
01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:52,080
» but um
>> move on. You got better things to do.

1169
01:41:49,679 --> 01:41:56,080
» Um so that that's where we're at with
that. So I think we have a good team in

1170
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:58,400
place. Um and
>> so she would then hear everything.

1171
01:41:57,679 --> 01:42:01,920
» Yes.
>> Yep. And she's the one that I went and

1172
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:04,560
watched. And I hate to use the word
training because there's no train

1173
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:08,880
training per se. It's just I watched
her. So her and I have the same I have

1174
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:13,280
our same
way of doing so. It's not going to be a

1175
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:19,040
shock to Sam or the system
per se.

1176
01:42:14,639 --> 01:42:25,440
It'll be an easy transition. Um,
any other questions?

1177
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:31,920
» Okay. All right. So, in front of you
all, we have the ordinance to employ

1178
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:35,280
John and accept this um contract and to
pass it as an emergency.

1179
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:38,560
» It's incorrect because the wrong money
is on it.

1180
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:41,600
» No, it's 39,000.
>> It says 30,000 a year.

1181
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:44,480
» You have the old one.
>> Okay, that's a possibility. But that's

1182
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:47,760
what I got.
>> Was that mine?

1183
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:50,320
» It's not in your packet. Was that in
your pile?

1184
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:52,639
» I don't know.
>> If you look in your packet, the packet I

1185
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,800
made,
>> it's the really long one.

1186
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:58,239
» The original.
>> Yeah.

1187
01:42:55,600 --> 01:43:02,239
» Is the one that you all have say 39?
Okay. Cuz that's the one I did today.

1188
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,800
» No. No.
>> It's better to catch it than not.

1189
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:10,679
» Huh?
>> It's better to catch it than not. The

1190
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,679
one we will be signing says 39.

1191
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:18,480
We like check and recheck and check.
>> But he has my packet.

1192
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:26,920
» I still have your packet on it.
>> I give him my original. So this must

1193
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:26,920
Hey, I'm just double checking. I'm your

1194
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:33,199
» It's the long one.
>> Oh, I have the long one.

1195
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:36,320
» So this is the There wasn't
>> I'm saying in your packet.

1196
01:43:34,239 --> 01:43:39,840
» Listen, when we
both

1197
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:44,040
Okay. But what the mayor has that we're
going to pass around 39.

1198
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:50,400
» So no, that's fine. No, because it's a
good catch in case something

1199
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:56,239
» Exactly. It's a good catch.
>> So there's nothing wrong with that. Um

1200
01:43:52,560 --> 01:44:02,239
so for $39,000, $3,000 a month, um Penny
will have to give you all the employment

1201
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:04,239
stuff. Um she'll get that for you. Um I
did hear a motion.

1202
01:44:03,119 --> 01:44:09,679
» I made a motion to
>> by Michelle, seconded by Corey. Any

1203
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:11,760
discussion? Yes.
We're going to start now. Mayor.

1204
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:15,920
» Okay.
>> It's an emergency ordinance.

1205
01:44:14,159 --> 01:44:19,360
An emergency ordinance requires that
this ordinance be read by title.

1206
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,960
» So, you have to read it word for word
for the title.

1207
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,239
» Okay.
>> You have to ask for a motion to suspend

1208
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:26,960
the rules
>> and declare an emergency.

1209
01:44:25,679 --> 01:44:30,800
» Okay. And we'll have a
>> second on that.

1210
01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:35,600
» And if that passes by three4 vote, then
we'll have a vote on a second motion to

1211
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,400
enact the ordinance.
>> Okay. already making.

1212
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,400
» Okay. Wait, tell me those steps one more
time. I'm sorry.

1213
01:44:39,199 --> 01:44:44,159
» Step one
>> to read the title.

1214
01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:46,159
» The mayor is going to read.
>> Yep.

1215
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:50,639
» Work for work.
>> And he's going to say it's because it's

1216
01:44:48,639 --> 01:44:55,440
an emergency.
I'm going to ask for a motion to suspend

1217
01:44:53,119 --> 01:44:59,119
the rules.
>> Typically, the rules require three

1218
01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:04,360
readings.
>> Suspend the rules and declare an

1219
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:04,360
emergency.

1220
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:10,000
» Okay. So it' be like when we do our
budget, how we do that?

1221
01:45:08,719 --> 01:45:12,719
» No, it's not.
>> It's not. Okay. See, we all have good

1222
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,760
stuff to learn
>> because the budget doesn't require

1223
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:18,880
emergency.
>> No,

1224
01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:21,280
» it goes into effect immediately.
>> So, we've been doing that wrong, too.

1225
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:24,719
And see, that's what I'm going to love
about this.

1226
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:29,639
» And we're going to see all these years.
You guys looking at me thinking, you

1227
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,639
guys know

1228
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:36,880
» a motion to suspend the rules.
>> Okay.

1229
01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:41,040
» Okay. Not a problem.
>> Okay, th

1230
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:44,239
this is a lot of typing for Sam. So, if
we're gonna have to go baby steps for

1231
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:47,920
me, okay, like a lot of copying and
pasting. If I have to do Okay,

1232
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:51,360
» can you Okay, go slow. She's safe.
>> Please,

1233
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:55,600
» I'll go slower than normal.
>> Not I'm not promising you the look.

1234
01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:57,920
» That's fine. I get it all the time.
>> That all the time.

1235
01:45:56,159 --> 01:46:02,320
» An ordinance employing John M. Browning,
attorney at law, as village solicitor

1236
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:07,280
and declaring an emergency. So, the
first vote is to ask to suspend the

1237
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:09,600
rules and declare an emergency.
>> Right.

1238
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:11,199
» I'll make a motion.
>> All right.

1239
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:17,679
» I'll second.
>> Shell made the motion. Courtney or Katie

1240
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:20,239
second.
>> Discussion.

1241
01:46:18,239 --> 01:46:23,840
» Approved to make a mistake.
>> We're fine. Discussion.

1242
01:46:22,719 --> 01:46:25,360
» If not, roll call.
>> Katie was second.

1243
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,199
» Yes.
>> Thank you.

1244
01:46:26,239 --> 01:46:28,719
» President.
>> Yes.

1245
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,159
» Council Henry.
>> Yes.

1246
01:46:29,119 --> 01:46:31,920
» Council.
>> Yes. Counciloman Terrier.

1247
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,440
» Yes.
>> Counciloman Van Dyke.

1248
01:46:33,119 --> 01:46:36,000
» Yes.
>> Councilman Snider.

1249
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:42,800
» Yes.
>> All right. Now to pass.

1250
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:48,719
» And now is there a motion to um
pass the ordinance employing John Brown.

1251
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:51,760
» There's a uh I make a motion to pass the
ordinance to I'm not going to say that

1252
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,639
right. Ember.
>> Browning.

1253
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:57,040
» Oh, Browning.
>> All right. That M is just the middle

1254
01:46:56,480 --> 01:47:00,639
initial.
>> Okay. Okay. And I'll second the

1255
01:46:58,639 --> 01:47:03,360
ordinance to employ John and Brownie.
>> All right. Michelle made the ordinance

1256
01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:09,760
uh made the motion for ordinance
0312601.

1257
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:11,760
» Second by Corey. Discussion.
>> Roll call.

1258
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,360
» President Jamal.
>> Yes.

1259
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:14,800
» Council Henry.
>> Yes.

1260
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,400
» Council Penguin.
>> Yes.

1261
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:18,000
» Council Harrier.
>> Yes.

1262
01:47:16,719 --> 01:47:19,360
» Council.
>> Yes.

1263
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:23,280
» Council.
>> I like this already.

1264
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:29,440
» I can see that in your face.
>> You're like an appointment on Tuesday.

1265
01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:35,040
get together and talk. Um,
I look forward to working with all.

1266
01:47:31,199 --> 01:47:39,440
» Okay, we appreciate it. Um, we hope this
is a long journey together.

1267
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:43,440
» All right, so we'll kind of get back
into old business. Um, this was part of

1268
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:46,880
uh new business, but we'll go ahead and
move back to old business. Um, property

1269
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:51,440
taxes. So, again, we've talked about
this. Um, John, this is my favorite

1270
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:54,239
thing about council meetings is standing
up and going to my board.

1271
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:58,719
» It is.
>> So, we track our

1272
01:47:56,480 --> 01:48:04,000
like what we've done, what we want to
do, kind of where we're at, and we'll

1273
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:12,280
add added to it. Um, property taxes
because we have our two levies this

1274
01:48:07,199 --> 01:48:12,280
year, one for the 2 mill,

1275
01:48:12,639 --> 01:48:18,880
our police operating, one that was
passed back in the 80s, and of course

1276
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:22,880
your inside village, all that.
So,

1277
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:26,639
we need to do something and we need to
do something relatively fast because,

1278
01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:32,480
you know, we want to get this one the
November election. Um, so I did reach

1279
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:40,400
out to the auditor's office to find out
what a new mill would produce in

1280
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:44,600
Pleasantville and as for 2026 data, one
mill would bring in $19,576.15.

1281
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:50,159
They're getting g getting me some
updated information on medium home

1282
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:57,000
value. We're still using 2023 data on
that. They were hoping to have that to

1283
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:57,000
me by today, but give it to me. Um,

1284
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:04,400
» what what is the general feeling? Like
we talked about keeping the property

1285
01:49:02,159 --> 01:49:09,280
taxes, but again, we'd have to go to new
because this this doesn't make it

1286
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:12,800
anymore that this we we don't have we
can't continue.

1287
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:16,320
» So, how do we go to new on property tax?
So new, we would go ahead and put on the

1288
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:20,159
levy is new because as the new
legislation is, we got rid of the

1289
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:23,440
replace. So now we have renew or renew.
Renew means it stays the same. It's at

1290
01:49:22,159 --> 01:49:26,800
the levels of what was originally
passed. And that's what these numbers

1291
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:31,679
reflect.
Replace used to be like the way to go.

1292
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:35,760
If you had it, you replace it. Replace
it either with par millillage or up to

1293
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:41,199
the current property values. So they've
got rid of that. So now it's renew. So

1294
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:46,400
our option is keep the same or go up
this. Um,

1295
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:50,560
and again, it's not go up to this, but
reduce this down to keep the end result

1296
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:55,920
the same. Like, we need to figure out
how much money, you know, if we keep it

1297
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:58,639
two mills at this level,
we're going to be fine for a couple

1298
01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:03,840
years, but then what do we do after
that? You know, and these in the past,

1299
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:08,159
these are six years.
I'm talking about dropping letting them

1300
01:50:06,239 --> 01:50:14,800
expire and then looking at our income
tax. And based on our base of residents,

1301
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:21,040
since most of our homeowners, property
owners are fixed on income elderly, they

1302
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:23,679
most likely are going to not vote for
these. And then of course, we have all

1303
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:29,440
the special interest groups out there
that are trying to abolish taxes. Um

1304
01:50:26,239 --> 01:50:33,440
that's going to persuade some people um
you know, we may have a better chance of

1305
01:50:31,199 --> 01:50:39,679
passing some type of additional income.
Whether it be a half% 3/4% 1% half%

1306
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:45,760
would bring in about $80,000 which would
get us, you know, at a good level for a

1307
01:50:43,119 --> 01:50:48,560
longer period of time.
So, I mean, are there thoughts on what

1308
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:52,320
we think?
>> My thoughts are is we have a lot of

1309
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:55,920
rentals in the village and I don't know
that we get a lot of income tax from

1310
01:50:53,840 --> 01:51:00,159
that, but if we would take it off of
property tax, then the people that own

1311
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:05,920
those homes are not paying their fair
share for the rentals that are probably

1312
01:51:02,639 --> 01:51:11,679
half or more in the in the village
because they don't live live here and

1313
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:17,600
pay. So, I understand the whole like the
senior thing, but I also feel like the

1314
01:51:14,639 --> 01:51:22,239
income tax then puts it solely on the
higher earners in the village, not

1315
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:26,080
across the board to everybody that lives
here. That's my concern.

1316
01:51:24,239 --> 01:51:30,560
» And to that point on the income tax,
we're only picking them up when they

1317
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:33,520
sign up for water. If the rentals aren't
changing over who the water service's

1318
01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:35,280
name is in,
>> y

1319
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:38,560
» if just a landlord paying it, we don't
know when residents come in and go out.

1320
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:43,040
» No. So we don't have any way to pick
them up to add them to the Rita tag.

1321
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:46,560
» So Rita bumps up against federal. So
they file federal for Pleasantville.

1322
01:51:44,639 --> 01:51:49,840
Rita picks them up. We don't divulge.
>> So they might live here for a whole year

1323
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:51,599
before we pick them up the next tax
season.

1324
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:55,679
» Whatever they file their federal for
when they live in Pleasantville

1325
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:58,800
» or live two months and leave
>> or live two months and leave and never

1326
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:01,520
file federal tax.
>> Yeah. I mean

1327
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:08,400
» there's a lot of turnover.
that

1328
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:11,400
does Rita the property owners the
landlord

1329
01:52:11,599 --> 01:52:15,119
» Rita's the income tax the landlords if
they don't live in town they're not

1330
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:18,639
paying
>> oh you're talking about they're making

1331
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:22,239
the money in the town
>> yeah but we can't we don't seem to be

1332
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:24,560
able to track what they make
>> to be sure

1333
01:52:23,119 --> 01:52:29,199
» what they make we just know what they
>> Well I'm just saying there's no you know

1334
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:33,119
knowing that they're reporting what they
make especially if their tenants are

1335
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,960
asked to pay cash.
>> I'm just going to be bold,

1336
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:40,840
» which happens.
>> Yes.

1337
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:40,840
» We have some special people.

1338
01:52:43,679 --> 01:52:50,719
» So, so,
you know, serious conversation. Which

1339
01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:55,280
way do you think we want to move?
>> I don't think

1340
01:52:52,639 --> 01:52:59,199
asking for a new bill levy pass
probably. People are stressed out

1341
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:04,080
because of the economy. They're not
going to a new levy.

1342
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:07,920
» Uh renewals seem to pass a lot easier
than new leies.

1343
01:53:05,599 --> 01:53:10,719
» But if we do a renewal, these numbers
>> stay the same.

1344
01:53:08,719 --> 01:53:13,199
» Stay the same. We don't it won't cut it.
>> Yeah.

1345
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:16,239
» That puts us in the deficit.
>> What's the process for increasing the

1346
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:20,000
income tax?
>> Um it is

1347
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:24,000
» we just say so and it happens.
>> Well, it has to go on the ballot% has to

1348
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:28,239
we have to do an ordinance put on the
ballot with the proper language and then

1349
01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:33,440
it goes to the voters to approve. So
let's So if we go to the ballot for an

1350
01:53:30,639 --> 01:53:36,639
income tax and let the millage for the
property tax expire and gets voted down,

1351
01:53:35,440 --> 01:53:40,159
then we're
>> just completely out.

1352
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:43,520
» Well, and if we put and it holds true on
both sides. So if we put this up, it

1353
01:53:41,599 --> 01:53:45,520
fails. We're still we're without
nothing.

1354
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:48,480
» Did the income tax have an expiration
date?

1355
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:52,400
» Um with income tax, it's not you can't
do tax anymore. It still has to be

1356
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:56,159
» for 1%
>> for no for over 1%.

1357
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:59,440
» Yeah, I it has to be renew. So we get
the 1% stays.

1358
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,440
» 1% boy stays.
>> Okay.

1359
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:05,840
» Yes. That doesn't get touched. We add
two and then that has a

1360
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:10,239
» All right. All right.
>> But if we go after that this year and

1361
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:12,639
let the property tax millage drop.
>> Yeah.

1362
01:54:10,639 --> 01:54:15,760
» We could be
>> double whammy.

1363
01:54:14,480 --> 01:54:19,520
» Hypothetically, let's say we're going to
let this drop property tax property tax

1364
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:22,320
on there and we put on the ballot. It
starts January one. It starts January 1,

1365
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:27,840
right?
>> Let's say we ditch the income tax. stick

1366
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:32,000
to this. Remember, they collect a year
behind. So, let's say it doesn't pass in

1367
01:54:29,599 --> 01:54:37,360
November, we still have March and then
they can still collect for the 2026 year

1368
01:54:34,639 --> 01:54:43,080
in 2027. So, we wouldn't be missing
money.

1369
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:43,080
» So, we got time to recover reg.

1370
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:50,960
» So, I mean, it could be as simple as we
try this as a new

1371
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:54,480
and figure out, you know, do we need to
keep these two or do we need to bump

1372
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:57,599
them up a little bit more? If that fails
and then revisit the income.

1373
01:54:55,840 --> 01:55:02,080
» So the replace is not an option anymore.
>> Replace is no longer an option.

1374
01:54:59,199 --> 01:55:04,080
» So even at the same millillage as a new
then that's the only way to increase the

1375
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,000
value.
>> Yes.

1376
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:09,000
» Based on the current
>> Okay.

1377
01:55:11,599 --> 01:55:17,119
» So with the increases that just went in
that everybody's upset about.

1378
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:22,000
» Yes. And that's what that's how we get
this number now.

1379
01:55:20,239 --> 01:55:24,719
And that's for each mill is 19
>> each mill for mill.

1380
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:29,280
» And I will say I've been hearing that
they're going to look to do some

1381
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:33,800
differences from that. So in a couple
months that could all change.

1382
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,800
» Yes.

1383
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:38,480
» Yes. There's still legislation being
pushed through that.

1384
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:42,320
» Well, I'm even talking about it. The
auditors I've heard that not even

1385
01:55:40,639 --> 01:55:45,119
outside people trying to get rid of it.
Yeah.

1386
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:48,400
» I've heard that they're re-evaluating or
>> looking at

1387
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:53,440
» Yeah. our second year of taxes may be
reduced because of these new laws that

1388
01:55:50,159 --> 01:55:58,000
will be coming into play.
So again, general thought which

1389
01:55:56,239 --> 01:56:00,960
direction to go. We need to pull the
trigger on something so we can start

1390
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:05,199
moving forward so that way we're not
scrambling at the last minute.

1391
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:10,159
» I would vote just renew
keep it the same.

1392
01:56:06,639 --> 01:56:14,719
» Okay. So the deficit
>> means we have no money lay off means we

1393
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:18,960
don't have a pole. We don't have stuff
like that. That's what that means in

1394
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:24,320
black and white. So our pool is
completely funded by this 21,000. So if

1395
01:56:21,599 --> 01:56:27,119
this doesn't this now doesn't cover our
pool.

1396
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:34,960
» This barely this doesn't cover our
payroll now. So if this doesn't go up,

1397
01:56:31,599 --> 01:56:38,320
we don't have a pool. Like it's just it.
And I hate to use the pool as a

1398
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:42,400
reference because it's like a threat and
that's not what it's meant to be. But

1399
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:44,960
it's just like that's the reality of it.
But you're saying we we do a new one

1400
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:48,800
mill
>> if we do

1401
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:52,639
» try a new one mill. it fails, then we
can bounce back and

1402
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:55,440
» we address it and maybe to go out of
income tax.

1403
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:57,679
» Well, if we put it back on as a new 2
mill, it'll be at this level,

1404
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:00,719
» right?
>> That'll be double that.

1405
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:06,719
» It'll be double that. It'll be 40,000.
Then like, and I'm just using this for

1406
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:10,159
an example that will give us money to
run our pool plus some. So, it gives us

1407
01:57:08,719 --> 01:57:11,840
buffer for years,
>> right?

1408
01:57:10,719 --> 01:57:15,040
» Now, general fund is a little bit
different because general fund is we

1409
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:18,719
don't know what's coming out general
fund from year to year. I mean we have

1410
01:57:16,239 --> 01:57:24,000
our our baseline but grants things like
that emergencies that come up but that

1411
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:28,560
will definitely put us in a better spot
by having that extra 20,000 and again

1412
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:34,719
this will never change. This will change
depending on valuation and all that.

1413
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:41,280
» So I'd be inclined to go after the new
the numbers up to where

1414
01:57:38,159 --> 01:57:45,679
they are based on current values.
But is there a way we can kind of get

1415
01:57:43,599 --> 01:57:50,400
the word out to the public that
>> it's not technically it's technically a

1416
01:57:47,599 --> 01:57:52,320
new but in re in reality it's the old
replace

1417
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:56,000
» like try to
>> and with all this always comes with

1418
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:58,880
education I hate putting something out
there just saying hey surprise we got

1419
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,320
something on the ballot right
>> so things that we've always done like

1420
01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:05,040
we've done
>> any newsletter

1421
01:58:01,599 --> 01:58:08,239
» newsletter public input now again we
probably already have our decision made

1422
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:11,199
when we get the public input but have
those meetings have people come in

1423
01:58:09,679 --> 01:58:13,280
because it may persuade
Or we can also take that as an

1424
01:58:12,719 --> 01:58:16,239
education.
>> We can educate them and maybe they go

1425
01:58:14,719 --> 01:58:20,080
and tell their neighbors.
>> So, you know, I'm proponent on doing all

1426
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:22,159
that stuff versus, hey, I show up the
ballot box and all a sudden you guys

1427
01:58:21,119 --> 01:58:25,199
have something on here I didn't know
nothing about and I don't know how to

1428
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:28,560
vote on it, so I'm going to vote no.
>> Right.

1429
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,960
Yeah. So,
>> okay.

1430
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:34,560
» My point is we should probably go after
the new and try to educate them

1431
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:38,400
» that it's not it's
>> the old replace. So, income tax, let's

1432
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:41,920
not talk about that then. I think that's
what I'm hearing. General consensus.

1433
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:45,760
» Yeah. because we can like in my brain
because we have a buffer here. If we do

1434
01:58:44,239 --> 01:58:49,599
fail,
>> then we can reevaluate next year

1435
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:52,960
» and that's fine. I just need a way for
it. So, this I think we can keep it at 2

1436
01:58:51,679 --> 01:58:55,520
mil. No new. This one I'm going to
double look at. It may need to go up to

1437
01:58:54,239 --> 01:58:59,840
like two and a half or something like
that. Not by much, but we'll see. I'll

1438
01:58:58,159 --> 01:59:04,000
figure out what because again, this is
for a six-year term. So, I want to make

1439
01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:06,639
sure that that money
will hopefully get us through the six

1440
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:11,000
years and keep us, you know, at our
funding levels that we need. Again,

1441
01:59:11,679 --> 01:59:15,760
government never has enough money to do
everything what everyone wants us to do.

1442
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:19,440
It's doing the best that we can with
what we have. So, we'll go ahead and do

1443
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:23,360
that. I'll start working on that. I'll
get more information from the auditors.

1444
01:59:21,599 --> 01:59:26,960
Um
John will be talking to you then once we

1445
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:32,560
get, you know, figure out what we need
to do on the process and all that.

1446
01:59:30,239 --> 01:59:36,880
And we will go on the November ballot.
So, we got we got plenty of time. That's

1447
01:59:34,239 --> 01:59:40,960
why I want to have that discussion now.
If we if we see that it fails in

1448
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:44,800
November, can we come back in primaries
the next year and put something up to

1449
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:48,320
» give us maybe two shots to get something
done the following year?

1450
01:59:46,639 --> 01:59:50,880
» Yeah, there's you're never out of time.
I mean, just like school districts that

1451
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:53,520
fail fail fail. You just keep trying,
keep trying different ways until you

1452
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:59,679
find something that the public will
accept. Um, and unfortunately, sometimes

1453
01:59:55,760 --> 02:00:03,520
it's because they enjoy now they're and
I hate saying that because that's not

1454
02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:10,480
the way we should be doing things.
>> How you get through to people sometimes.

1455
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:13,639
expire when the money
is end.

1456
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:26,000
» So we still get paid out all 27
>> 26 collectors will get paid in 27.

1457
02:00:22,159 --> 02:00:31,040
» Well, yeah, they're they're taxes in 27.
You're paying 26.

1458
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:36,440
» The levies expire in 2026. So, we have
to have something on the ballot for

1459
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:36,440
2027.

1460
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:45,080
» Before we get to 2028, we got no money.
>> We don't have this,

1461
02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:45,080
» right?

1462
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,920
» Yeah.

1463
02:00:55,840 --> 02:01:01,920
And what I always tell people because
they're like, "Well, why can't you get

1464
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:05,560
rid of that?" You can't. Guess what?
You're going to pay that.

1465
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:15,199
Yeah, this is just how they
did this. If we give it, it's there for

1466
02:01:12,639 --> 02:01:18,280
someone to take
the other

1467
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:24,960
gingers.
>> And if anyone else has any input, I

1468
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:29,239
mean, I'm not trying to monopolize the
conversation. I'm just giving you my

1469
02:01:26,239 --> 02:01:29,239
opinion.

1470
02:01:29,679 --> 02:01:37,280
processing.
>> It's a lot.

1471
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:40,360
» It is. It is a lot.
>> All right.

1472
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:48,480
» So, we'll move on to new business.
Right.

1473
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:54,960
» Did you finish your
>> No, I didn't. The Pleasantville

1474
02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:59,599
agreement with the ICE uh program. Um
you guys voted on to approve that.

1475
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:05,920
um through a phone vote at the last
council meeting because there was still

1476
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:11,280
some missing information and that was
passed. And then of course the repairs

1477
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:18,480
for 101 or 100 North Main Street for
$10,600 and that's being done now.

1478
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:22,719
Any other old business?
Uh we've already done ordinance 312601.

1479
02:02:21,599 --> 02:02:27,440
» Mayor, can I go back?
>> Yes, sir.

1480
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:31,320
repairs to 100 North Main Street
>> brought to council by

1481
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:39,280
phone or text. Tell me tell me about
that procedure.

1482
02:02:35,199 --> 02:02:42,400
So, um
I guess just in to generalize it,

1483
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:46,560
sometimes we have like, hey, this is
coming um next week after our council

1484
02:02:45,679 --> 02:02:49,679
meeting
>> and we discuss it, right?

1485
02:02:48,239 --> 02:02:53,040
» But we don't meet for another month and
it's like one of those things like we

1486
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:53,920
got to get this moving or have a special
meeting,

1487
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:58,880
» right?
>> Um and then council says, "Well, let's

1488
02:02:55,920 --> 02:03:04,560
get that information. we have other than
X and we we agree to doing a phone vote,

1489
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:11,040
text, email, something like that and
then that all goes through Sam and she

1490
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:17,440
manages that and records those.
>> So this this thing for the uh

1491
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:19,520
I'm less concerned about the memorandum
of understanding with

1492
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:23,920
» ICE
>> because it's not money.

1493
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:25,440
» I'm more concerned about expending money
by voice.

1494
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:29,599
» Okay.
>> So Is it are we in a position where we

1495
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:31,920
can have a new vote on this motion?
>> Yes, sir.

1496
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:35,360
» In person.
>> Right here now. Do that.

1497
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:41,199
» Yes, not a problem.
>> Um so, and then also some like we're

1498
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:44,560
learning together here. Sometimes other
things we do is like things come up here

1499
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:47,520
and it's a contract. Let's call it that.
And we don't have an ordinance for it.

1500
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:51,520
So, we'll go ahead and pass it here and
then the next meeting we'll bring in the

1501
02:03:49,199 --> 02:03:55,960
actual ordinance to pass the contract
and then we'll record it as the

1502
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:55,960
ordinance.

1503
02:03:56,159 --> 02:04:00,320
Sorry.
>> Is that palpable?

1504
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:03,199
» No.
>> No. Okay.

1505
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:04,880
» Something that we can talk about
Tuesday.

1506
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:09,520
» Okay.
>> During co you were allowed to do that.

1507
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:14,560
» We're allowed to have Zoom meetings or
meetings. State legislature took all

1508
02:04:11,599 --> 02:04:18,239
that power away that authority away.
>> So

1509
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:24,320
it's going to have to be in person.
>> Okay. Right.

1510
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:27,119
» So and that's why you know particularly
this expenditure of

1511
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:34,080
» 10 grand.
>> Okay. Nope. Not a problem.

1512
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:39,280
» So there is just you know if there is
like this the the paperwork was emailed

1513
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:44,480
out
>> and I have all those emails and or text

1514
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:49,599
all of those are
>> if ever we need those too. I mean just

1515
02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:54,800
because it's in writing.
>> Okay. All right. Do I hear a motion to

1516
02:04:52,639 --> 02:05:00,560
to approve the expenditure for Perry
Mason uh for $10,600 for the repairs to

1517
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:02,800
100 North Main Street?
>> I'll make the motion.

1518
02:05:01,599 --> 02:05:06,880
» Michelle made the motion.
>> I'll second.

1519
02:05:03,599 --> 02:05:10,119
» Second by Courtney. Discussion.
Roll call.

1520
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:15,520
» Was there an ordinance that went along
with this?

1521
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:20,960
» Not on this one, though.
>> Okay.

1522
02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:26,400
» Should there be
It depends on the nature of the

1523
02:05:22,239 --> 02:05:33,599
ordinance. Um, this is for a repair, so
it's it's not going to take longer than

1524
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:40,080
a year to complete. You know, candidly,
the village administrator might have had

1525
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:45,639
authority to do this on his own. Mhm.
>> Again, I don't know what yours

1526
02:05:42,639 --> 02:05:45,639
administrator

1527
02:05:45,679 --> 02:05:50,480
administrator has.
>> So, we do not have currently a village

1528
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:56,960
administrator.
>> Okay.

1529
02:05:52,159 --> 02:06:02,119
So, in that in that event, yeah, you are
required to have a contract.

1530
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:13,920
treat it like everything else in this
packet for tonight.

1531
02:06:11,679 --> 02:06:17,840
» I think we're good without knowing more
of it.

1532
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:21,440
Would like to see a voice on it.
>> Okay.

1533
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:26,719
» Yeah, we have a resolution that includes
that 106 coming

1534
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:31,040
resolution 01.
>> Yeah, there's a resolution to push the

1535
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:35,599
money aroundations.
>> Oh, that's for the finance side. Right.

1536
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:42,800
» But that's not the contract approving
the money. So they're two different

1537
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:44,400
» just do the roll.
>> President.

1538
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:46,159
» Yes.
>> Council.

1539
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:49,040
» Yes.
>> Councilman.

1540
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:50,800
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1541
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:52,239
» Council.
>> Yes.

1542
02:06:51,119 --> 02:06:55,239
» Council Snider.
>> Yes.

1543
02:06:55,520 --> 02:07:01,840
» All right. Any other new business or old
business? I'm sorry.

1544
02:07:00,480 --> 02:07:06,639
All right. We'll move to new business.
Uh we've already completed ordinance

1545
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:09,760
312601. So we'll move on to ordinance
3122602.

1546
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:13,280
An ordinance authorizing the mayor
and/or fiscal officer to enter into a

1547
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:17,840
contract with Rickettts Excavating
Incorporated for excavating and

1548
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:22,480
rehabilitation services to 108 East
Walnut Street Water Tower area and the

1549
02:07:20,159 --> 02:07:28,480
declaration of an emergency. So for
clarification, because of this being a

1550
02:07:24,639 --> 02:07:32,960
contract, we still have to do the um
>> emergency vote and then

1551
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:32,960
» suspend the rules. Yeah.

1552
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:38,079
If you're going to declare emergency and
I have that in here, right?

1553
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:43,079
» Yes.
>> Ordinance 312602.

1554
02:07:40,079 --> 02:07:43,079
» Yeah.

1555
02:07:44,079 --> 02:07:47,679
» I think I saw emergency language in it.
So,

1556
02:07:47,119 --> 02:07:51,360
» yes.
>> Read it by title first,

1557
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:54,719
» which I did,
>> and ask for a motion to suspend the

1558
02:07:53,119 --> 02:07:59,199
rules and declare an emergency.
>> Okay. Uh, do I hear a motion to suspend

1559
02:07:57,280 --> 02:08:03,520
rules and declare emergency?
>> I'll make a motion. Michelle made the

1560
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:08,320
motion. Do I hear a second?
>> Bob second. Discussion.

1561
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:09,679
Roll call.
>> President Jim.

1562
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:11,119
» Yes.
>> Counciloman Henry.

1563
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:12,560
» Yes.
>> Council Pangor.

1564
02:08:12,159 --> 02:08:14,159
» Yes.
>> Councilwoman Her.

1565
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:15,760
» Yes.
>> Counciloman Van Dyke.

1566
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:17,280
» Yes.
>> Council.

1567
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:24,520
» Yes.
>> All right. So, I need a motion to pass

1568
02:08:21,119 --> 02:08:24,520
ordinance 312602.

1569
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:29,920
» Do I hear a motion?
>> I'll motion.

1570
02:08:28,239 --> 02:08:35,040
» Scott made the motion. Second.
>> Second it.

1571
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:36,880
» Second by Katie. Discussion.
Roll call.

1572
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:38,639
» President Jamal.
>> Yes.

1573
02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:40,800
» Councilwoman Henry.
>> Yes.

1574
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:42,480
» Council.
>> Yes.

1575
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:44,159
» Council Har.
>> Yes.

1576
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:45,679
» Council.
>> Yes.

1577
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:48,679
» Council Snder.
>> Yes.

1578
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:56,639
» Pass that around.
All right. Uh, Pleasantville Police car

1579
02:08:53,199 --> 02:09:02,480
number four, the 20 2017 Ford Explorer.
Uh, Nick touched base on that. um that

1580
02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:05,599
was totaled on three or 213 2026.
Um

1581
02:09:04,159 --> 02:09:10,560
we've been in contact with our insurance
company. We've not made the claim yet.

1582
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:13,040
Um they our big concern, our big
question first was, you know, are you

1583
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:17,280
guys going to drop us? What are the
ramifications other than increased

1584
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:22,480
premiums? Um you know, court till you
file the claim, but we're not going to

1585
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:27,679
drop you blah blah blah. So, um this car
was a donor car from Reynoldsburg. So,

1586
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:32,000
we did not purchase the car. All the
most all the equipment was able to be

1587
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:38,400
taken out of it. Correct, Nick? And the
only expense that we had in it was the

1588
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:44,159
um the decals, which was about three
grand. Um so I didn't know if council

1589
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:51,199
wanted to
um go and do an insurance claim on this

1590
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:56,719
or if they wanted to take a loss. Um
just kind of have an open discussion

1591
02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:58,719
before we went to the insurance company.
How many vehicles do we have in the

1592
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:01,599
fleet now?
>> We have three.

1593
02:10:00,079 --> 02:10:06,159
» We have We still have three.
>> Yes. And the one So, we have two

1594
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:10,320
Explorers, which are our primaries and
then our Chevy Tahoe is our backup, but

1595
02:10:08,159 --> 02:10:15,040
that's the one that has
>> What was the value of it? Like what what

1596
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:20,079
did we do a valuation of what it would
have been worth? An evaluation is what

1597
02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:24,639
the way the insurance company does it is
they give you what basically the KBB was

1598
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:29,679
of the car and then they give you full
replacement of whatever was lost.

1599
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:32,679
» So the cage the
>> Yeah.

1600
02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:40,960
» Yeah. I'm sorry.
>> Yeah. We called them and let them know

1601
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:45,040
but we have not made a
>> No, because we've not made a a claim.

1602
02:10:45,199 --> 02:10:52,199
Well, we're up for a review. Anyway, our
rates are going to go up because they

1603
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:52,199
always go up.

1604
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:10,159
» All equipment out of it. We need some
>> There's some stuff that was naturally

1605
02:11:08,239 --> 02:11:12,880
like the overhead light bar and
spotlight on the vehicle, stuff like

1606
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:15,880
that. Pretty much everything on the
inside.

1607
02:11:17,119 --> 02:11:20,679
Well, if we had

1608
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:29,520
» 2019
direct car to car replacement, you'd

1609
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:35,040
have to get, you know, 2019
specific

1610
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:39,280
molded seats and the cage and
the trunk that slides in the back like a

1611
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:45,520
locking trunk. You know, some of some of
the stuff is like

1612
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:48,520
or whatever.
>> Right.

1613
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:55,360
» And so you got two working vehicles, one
needs repairs,

1614
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:57,760
» two current officers, one opening.
>> Yes.

1615
02:11:58,239 --> 02:12:05,280
And do we know I was asking Jason, do we
know what the car, not talking about all

1616
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:08,800
the gadgets, but like the actual car
typically like if we were to have bought

1617
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:14,239
that, have you
>> if you try to go buy like a 2019 with,

1618
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:19,880
you know, similar miles right now,
similar equipment. I'm going to guess

1619
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:19,880
like

1620
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:24,320
» that's what I'm getting ready to jump
on.

1621
02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:29,360
» I'm going to guess you're going to be in
a neighborhood of

1622
02:12:26,079 --> 02:12:33,280
12 15,000 roughly that type of vehicle
with that kind of mileage

1623
02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:38,960
» and then you said it normally goes up
3%. Is that

1624
02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:41,520
» overall for a whole year or is it
>> does it drop after a certain period of

1625
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:45,920
time?
>> No, that's just our usual annual

1626
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:48,880
increase to our insurance premiums.
>> Mayor, what did you guys pay last time

1627
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:54,400
for insurance?
>> Uh last time it was what 28,000

1628
02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:59,599
something like that. 26,000
>> per year ahead for a year.

1629
02:12:58,159 --> 02:13:02,320
» Yes.
>> Yep.

1630
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:07,119
Let's see.
>> So, an increase per year would be $840

1631
02:13:05,840 --> 02:13:09,760
if it's at 3%.
>> If it's at 3%.

1632
02:13:08,079 --> 02:13:14,960
» If that's But that's just the standard
increase. It doesn't include the

1633
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:16,560
accident, the two accidents we've had.
And

1634
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:18,480
» Well, we probably already got the
increase from the first accident. I

1635
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:22,079
would think
>> it'll be on this year's.

1636
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:29,400
» Yeah. So,
>> so we could do 6%.

1637
02:13:25,599 --> 02:13:29,400
» Overall, that'd be $1,600.

1638
02:13:34,320 --> 02:13:39,599
» Are you taking that an additional 3% as
if as an increase because of the

1639
02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:43,199
accidents?
>> Is that why you said 6%?

1640
02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:49,360
» Yeah. Well, if the car is only worth
14,000 and we have to pay $1,600 extra,

1641
02:13:47,599 --> 02:13:52,520
that only takes 10 payment, you know,
that's only

1642
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:58,639
be going to be paying out a lot of
money.

1643
02:13:56,800 --> 02:14:01,280
» But if we get more officers, especially
with the contract he has, we'll need

1644
02:14:00,159 --> 02:14:08,679
more cars.
>> So, if you think about it, $2,000 a year

1645
02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:08,679
for 10 years, that's $20,000.

1646
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:18,000
I'm sorry.
>> So, Reynoldsburg gave a verbal comment

1647
02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:21,280
that they get rid of cards every year
and we're eligible to ask for them.

1648
02:14:20,079 --> 02:14:26,320
Doesn't mean we'll receive them, but
we're eligible to ask for them.

1649
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:31,440
» But we also have the potential of theou
to get once we get trained up and, you

1650
02:14:29,199 --> 02:14:35,440
know, we get involved to have funds come
in to buy something then too. So, for

1651
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:39,599
reference, um, on Asia Motors, that's
where we bought our vehicles before, and

1652
02:14:37,440 --> 02:14:44,400
they're used or they come with
everything other than the radios and and

1653
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:49,520
things like that, computers,
and for a 2023,

1654
02:14:46,639 --> 02:14:53,679
um, it's $28,000. And that comes, you
know, loaded, I guess, is how to say it,

1655
02:14:51,599 --> 02:14:59,440
other than our radios and the decals.
So, radios are about $1,500.

1656
02:14:56,639 --> 02:15:01,599
Computers are about $1,500 roughly,
>> which the radio and computer we we

1657
02:15:01,040 --> 02:15:05,520
salvaged.
>> Yeah. And then the decal to stripe a car

1658
02:15:04,400 --> 02:15:08,520
is about three grand,
>> right?

1659
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:20,760
» My brain's rolling around that we have.
>> So John, do you have any input on that?

1660
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:26,159
» What I know about police cars is they
get used hard. They get used a lot.

1661
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:29,119
» Y
>> a lot of miles, a lot of hard driving, a

1662
02:15:28,079 --> 02:15:32,880
lot of stop and go.
>> Y

1663
02:15:31,679 --> 02:15:36,639
They're not built to be abused, but
they're abused.

1664
02:15:35,280 --> 02:15:41,599
» I just kind of just rolling around the
fact that we have enough cars for

1665
02:15:38,639 --> 02:15:47,679
officers on the Well, we be one short if
we get the other spot replaced if they

1666
02:15:43,599 --> 02:15:53,040
would all be on duty at the same time.
>> I know it's a risk to have cars to cars

1667
02:15:51,360 --> 02:15:55,679
injured in the line of duty, so to
speak,

1668
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:59,920
» but it just doesn't sit right with me
that we put forward two claims on our

1669
02:15:58,159 --> 02:16:03,360
insurance.
so close together on a car we got for

1670
02:16:02,159 --> 02:16:07,360
free
>> that we salvaged. I just it just doesn't

1671
02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:10,880
it sort of sticks in my craw crawl a
little bit. I just don't think that's

1672
02:16:08,560 --> 02:16:16,320
the right thing to do.
>> It's kind of where I'm leaning that

1673
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:20,960
absorbing the extra. I mean, we already
got one claim on the first one,

1674
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:22,960
» put a second one on. Like that could be
pretty detrimental to the insurance

1675
02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:25,360
rate.
>> Yes.

1676
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:28,320
» Well, I just It's for a car that was
free.

1677
02:16:25,840 --> 02:16:30,960
» Yeah. For a car we have minimal cost in
decals. we're likely to get another car

1678
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:34,800
for free, right?
>> And we've got the equipment out. It just

1679
02:16:32,719 --> 02:16:42,639
doesn't seem like the right thing to do.
>> All right. So, anyone is anyone opposed

1680
02:16:38,479 --> 02:16:45,040
» to not making a claim?
>> Okay.

1681
02:16:43,359 --> 02:16:50,399
» Is there any legal things that we have
to do it or

1682
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:53,599
» can you wrap truck?
>> No, because that will give him excuses

1683
02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:56,399
to speed and then Nick's going to have
to arrest him and then I'm going to have

1684
02:16:54,960 --> 02:16:59,760
to bail him out of jail and it's just a
whole thing. You can you can you can

1685
02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:03,840
wrap the little Green Goblin out there.
You can drive it around and I'll get

1686
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:07,760
rides from Jason places, I guess. I
don't know.

1687
02:17:04,639 --> 02:17:11,519
» All right. Um, so John, since we decided
not to make a claim on that, should we

1688
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:16,399
do any formal voting or just keep on
trucking? All right. Sounds good to me.

1689
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:23,519
» Just so everybody knows, we did keep the
old car and we do have the car that was

1690
02:17:20,559 --> 02:17:29,599
purchased from Glen Willow
$7,000 like that.

1691
02:17:26,719 --> 02:17:33,840
vehicles. So, we should be able to, you
know,

1692
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:42,280
rims, tires, you know, alternators,
motors, you know, whatever that we have

1693
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:42,280
that. So, that's a option to try to keep

1694
02:17:45,280 --> 02:17:48,280
it.

1695
02:17:51,920 --> 02:18:00,160
» Yeah.
So we'll go on to resolution 312601 and

1696
02:17:57,599 --> 02:18:03,120
that's your supplemental appropriations
and be resolved by the village pleasable

1697
02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:08,080
council that the following supplemental
appropriations be approved. General fund

1698
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:12,880
10,600 which was for the repairs and
maintenance on 100 North Main Street.

1699
02:18:10,240 --> 02:18:17,599
General fund $2,65.15
for professional and technical services.

1700
02:18:14,960 --> 02:18:22,880
Street fund $2,000 for natural gas for
the um increase in rates. water fund.

1701
02:18:20,719 --> 02:18:26,160
$10,000 for operating supplies and
materials. And that's for the water

1702
02:18:24,399 --> 02:18:27,760
breaks that we've currently have been
dealing with. And some other

1703
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:29,679
» meters.
>> Oh, and meters. Yes,

1704
02:18:28,719 --> 02:18:33,760
» that was just meters.
>> Meters.

1705
02:18:32,479 --> 02:18:36,479
» All right. Do I hear a motion to
approve?

1706
02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:41,120
» I'll make a motion to approve resolution
number 312601.

1707
02:18:38,479 --> 02:18:43,439
» All right. Second.
>> I'll second it.

1708
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:45,840
» Second by Are you guys afraid now that
we got an attorney?

1709
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:49,200
» No.
>> I'm going to say we don't want that. I

1710
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:51,439
know they were
I have a procedural question though.

1711
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:55,280
Yeah.
>> So resolution isn't supposed to go three

1712
02:18:53,439 --> 02:18:59,599
readings like an ordinance
>> because it's because it's budgetary. It

1713
02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:01,920
doesn't have to have three readings.
>> Okay.

1714
02:19:00,399 --> 02:19:04,639
» Anything that is budgetary
appropriations

1715
02:19:03,920 --> 02:19:08,359
passed.
>> Okay. Thank you.

1716
02:19:08,719 --> 02:19:13,599
» Do we have a roll call? I'm sorry. Scott
Scott messed me up.

1717
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:15,120
» Yeah, my bad.
>> President.

1718
02:19:14,719 --> 02:19:17,040
» Yes.
>> Yes. Councilman Penguin,

1719
02:19:16,639 --> 02:19:18,559
» yes.
>> Council,

1720
02:19:18,160 --> 02:19:20,160
» yes.
>> Council McD,

1721
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:23,359
» yes.
>> Council Snider,

1722
02:19:21,280 --> 02:19:27,359
» yes.
>> All right. Ordinance 312603,

1723
02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:29,920
an ordinance authorizing the mayor and
fiscal officer to enter into an

1724
02:19:28,639 --> 02:19:33,599
agreement with Fairfield County Health
Department for mosquito fogging and the

1725
02:19:31,519 --> 02:19:36,800
declaration of emergency. Do I hear a
motion to suspend the rules and declare

1726
02:19:35,599 --> 02:19:40,240
an emergency?
>> I'll make a motion. Go ahead, Katie.

1727
02:19:38,559 --> 02:19:43,840
» Katie made the motion. Seconded by
>> I'll second the motion.

1728
02:19:41,280 --> 02:19:50,720
» Second by Corey. Discussion.
>> Roll call. Oh, I'm sorry.

1729
02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:54,479
» Sorry. So, um
I I guess I just don't remember it was

1730
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:57,920
$75 a mile.
>> Yeah, but there's not even hardly a mile

1731
02:19:56,800 --> 02:20:01,520
in Pleasantville. So, it's
>> Oh, so they only they don't choose us to

1732
02:19:59,680 --> 02:20:04,640
come or charge us to come. That's
probably the cost that I've seen. That's

1733
02:20:03,280 --> 02:20:06,880
» Yeah. So, what they do is they go out
and do five or six or three or four

1734
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:11,840
villages. I think
>> I knew when it came through it was not

1735
02:20:09,520 --> 02:20:16,960
didn't seem that much. finish, I think,
is or that was my only question because

1736
02:20:14,240 --> 02:20:20,240
I remember it overall not costing that
much. So, I guess that threw me off. So,

1737
02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:24,680
yeah. Go ahead. Sorry.
>> Oh, no, you're fine. Roll call.

1738
02:20:24,960 --> 02:20:30,960
» The first one.
>> This is to go into emergency.

1739
02:20:28,319 --> 02:20:33,040
» You had Katie made the motion
>> to declare an emergency.

1740
02:20:32,399 --> 02:20:37,359
» Uhhuh.
>> Cory second. Now we do a roll call.

1741
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:38,720
» And I did roll with
>> President.

1742
02:20:38,319 --> 02:20:40,000
» Yes.
>> Councilman Henry.

1743
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:41,359
» Yes.
>> Councilman

1744
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:44,720
Yes.
>> Council may council.

1745
02:20:44,160 --> 02:20:48,840
» Thank you. Yes.
>> Councilman Snider.

1746
02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:48,840
» Yes.

1747
02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:56,080
» All right. And then do I hear a motion
to pass ordinance 3122603?

1748
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:59,680
» I'll make a motion
>> and I'll second it.

1749
02:20:57,600 --> 02:21:03,680
» Motion made by Katie, seconded by
Michelle. Discussion.

1750
02:21:02,479 --> 02:21:05,520
» Roll call.
>> President Jamal.

1751
02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:07,120
» Yes.
>> Council Henry.

1752
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:08,720
» Yes.
>> Council Horn.

1753
02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:11,920
» Yes.
>> Council Harrier. Yes.

1754
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:13,359
» Council Vand.
>> Yes.

1755
02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:16,359
» Council Snider.
>> Yes.

1756
02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:22,720
» Sorry.
>> All right.

1757
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:26,240
» Ordinance 3122604,
an ordinance approving, adopting, and

1758
02:21:24,399 --> 02:21:30,319
enacting American Legal Publishings Ohio
basic code 2026 edition as a code of

1759
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:34,880
ordinances for the municipality of
Pleasantville, Ohio, and declaring an

1760
02:21:32,399 --> 02:21:39,840
emer emergency. I do have to suspend the
rules on this because it's a law, right?

1761
02:21:37,680 --> 02:21:43,200
Okay. U motion. They charging you for
this mayor.

1762
02:21:40,880 --> 02:21:46,640
» Uh what is our bill on this? $700.
>> It's in the back here.

1763
02:21:44,319 --> 02:21:48,800
» It's like 600, but we have three books
and then online.

1764
02:21:48,399 --> 02:21:53,439
» Yeah,
>> we picked up the online for Chief so

1765
02:21:51,439 --> 02:21:56,920
that he had access to it. I don't think
there are any changes.

1766
02:22:03,280 --> 02:22:09,680
» Yeah. So,
>> what I was told is every year we have to

1767
02:22:07,520 --> 02:22:14,080
do this because if there is a change and
we didn't know it and we get caught up

1768
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:19,280
in Nick wrote a ticket because OC says
this but now we use basic code and they

1769
02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:23,280
don't match anymore.
And again, we don't read it cover to

1770
02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:28,160
back to say
>> but each year American Publishing puts

1771
02:22:25,439 --> 02:22:31,760
out when they put out a new one, they'll
put out a little pamphlet in there and

1772
02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:33,280
says, "Here are the changes."
>> Yeah.

1773
02:22:32,240 --> 02:22:37,560
» They didn't do that this year.
>> True. True. I didn't see that. Yeah.

1774
02:22:37,760 --> 02:22:42,800
» You know, I'm just I'm just saying.
>> Yeah.

1775
02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:48,800
» Let's be safe than sorry because it's
only $600. Just in case something Yeah,

1776
02:22:45,359 --> 02:22:52,399
» it's only Yeah. I would rather them say,
"Oops, we forgot to send the pamphlet."

1777
02:22:50,399 --> 02:22:56,479
And then we have something that gets it
tossed out. Um I'm sorry. Did we do

1778
02:22:55,439 --> 02:23:00,399
suspension of rules?
>> Not yet.

1779
02:22:57,120 --> 02:23:04,080
» Okay. Um
do I hear a motion to suspend the rules

1780
02:23:02,240 --> 02:23:07,520
and declare an emergency?
>> I'll make a motion.

1781
02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:11,760
» Katie made the motion. Seconded.
>> Seconded by Courtney.

1782
02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:18,200
» Discussion.
>> Roll call. President.

1783
02:23:14,240 --> 02:23:18,200
» Um I will abstain.

1784
02:23:19,920 --> 02:23:23,760
Uh, Councilman Henry,
>> yes.

1785
02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:25,920
» Council Hayward,
>> yes.

1786
02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:28,399
» Council Harrier,
>> yes.

1787
02:23:26,479 --> 02:23:30,560
» Council,
>> yes.

1788
02:23:29,359 --> 02:23:33,680
» Councilman Snater,
>> yes.

1789
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:38,319
» All right. And do I hear a motion to
pass ordinance 3122604?

1790
02:23:36,880 --> 02:23:42,240
» I'll make a motion to pass ordinance
312604.

1791
02:23:40,880 --> 02:23:48,240
» All right. Corey made the motion. Do I
hear a second?

1792
02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:52,080
» I'll second it. Seconded by Katie.
Uh discussion.

1793
02:23:50,960 --> 02:23:55,680
Roll call.
>> President Jamal.

1794
02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:58,680
» I would vote no.
>> No.

1795
02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:01,760
» Councilman Henry.
>> Yes.

1796
02:24:00,720 --> 02:24:03,359
» Councilman.
>> Yes.

1797
02:24:02,080 --> 02:24:05,040
» Councilman Harrier.
>> Yes.

1798
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:07,600
» Counciloman Van Dyke.
>> Yes.

1799
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:10,600
» Councilman Snider.
>> Yes.

1800
02:24:13,280 --> 02:24:19,040
Ordinance 312605,
an ordinance authorizing the mayor

1801
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:23,520
and/or fiscal officer to enter into a
contract with Advanced Business

1802
02:24:20,319 --> 02:24:27,920
Communications Incorporated, ABC, for
sewer server backup plan support for the

1803
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:32,240
village server and the declaration of an
emergency. Do I hear a motion to suspend

1804
02:24:30,560 --> 02:24:34,880
the rules and to pass it as an
emergency?

1805
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:40,000
» I'll make a motion.
>> Um, sorry, Michelle made the motion. Do

1806
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:44,399
I hear a second?
I'll second it.

1807
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:46,080
» Katie second. Discussion.
>> Roll call.

1808
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:47,520
» President Jamal.
>> Yes.

1809
02:24:46,399 --> 02:24:48,720
» Councilman Henry.
>> Yes.

1810
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:50,240
» Councilman.
>> Yes.

1811
02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:51,680
» Councilman Henry.
>> Yes.

1812
02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:53,439
» Council.
>> Yes.

1813
02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:59,280
» Council.
>> I'm going to abstain

1814
02:24:55,439 --> 02:25:05,720
because I'm working it.
>> All right. Do I hear a motion to pass

1815
02:25:02,319 --> 02:25:05,720
ordinance 03122605?

1816
02:25:06,399 --> 02:25:10,160
» I'll make a motion.
>> Michelle made the motion. Oh, that was

1817
02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:12,640
the first part.
>> I'll second it.

1818
02:25:10,880 --> 02:25:14,720
» Emergency. Oops.
>> Sorry. Getting confused. Now,

1819
02:25:14,080 --> 02:25:20,399
» you're fine.
>> Yeah. Cy second.

1820
02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:24,960
» Michelle and Cy. Sorry.
>> Discussion.

1821
02:25:22,640 --> 02:25:25,920
Roll call, please.
>> Jamal,

1822
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:27,280
» yes.
>> Council Henry,

1823
02:25:26,960 --> 02:25:29,600
» yes.
>> Council, yes.

1824
02:25:28,479 --> 02:25:31,040
» Council Harrier,
>> yes.

1825
02:25:29,920 --> 02:25:32,399
» Council Van,
>> yes.

1826
02:25:31,359 --> 02:25:37,520
» Council Snider,
>> now I'll abstain for sure.

1827
02:25:35,040 --> 02:25:43,200
All right. Everyone has in their packet
uh the 2026 rental and pool rates. Um

1828
02:25:41,359 --> 02:25:45,920
rental rates for our community center,
things like that did not go up. Pull

1829
02:25:44,720 --> 02:25:56,920
rentals did not go up. The only thing
that did go up was the admission um to

1830
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:56,920
as soon as I find mine here real quick.

1831
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:20,160
Did we sign the legal one?
>> The legal one only has spots for the

1832
02:26:19,439 --> 02:26:21,520
mayor. And
>> I just want to make sure we didn't miss

1833
02:26:21,200 --> 02:26:24,640
anything.
>> No.

1834
02:26:23,760 --> 02:26:28,399
» Um,
>> so everything stayed the same other than

1835
02:26:26,399 --> 02:26:33,520
daily admissions. Um, they went up to
$4. The Wednesday deal $2. And again, we

1836
02:26:31,840 --> 02:26:37,680
always base this off of what Baltimore,
Brman, and us. We kind of keep our our

1837
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:42,000
fees in line. Baltimore is more than us.
Uh they have more to offer, but us and

1838
02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:43,760
Brman um remain the same.
>> That was the question I had.

1839
02:26:43,359 --> 02:26:47,040
» What's that?
>> You answered my question.

1840
02:26:44,800 --> 02:26:50,359
» Oh, we we do some research before we get
here.

1841
02:26:47,359 --> 02:26:50,359
» Yeah.

1842
02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:55,080
» All right. Ordinance

1843
02:26:56,240 --> 02:26:59,240
3122606.

1844
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:04,479
An or ordinance authorized the mayor
and/or fiscal officer to enter into a

1845
02:27:02,720 --> 02:27:09,359
contract with Mid Ohio Strategic
Technologies for copier and cop for

1846
02:27:06,800 --> 02:27:12,800
copier services for the village of
Pleasantville and the declaration of

1847
02:27:10,880 --> 02:27:16,560
emergency. Do I hear a motion to suspend
the rules and pass as an emergency?

1848
02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:20,080
» I also move.
>> Scott made the motion. Second.

1849
02:27:19,359 --> 02:27:24,040
» I'll second it.
>> Second by Corey. Discussion.

1850
02:27:24,080 --> 02:27:27,760
Roll call.
>> President Jamal?

1851
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:29,200
» Yes.
>> Councilman Henry?

1852
02:27:28,880 --> 02:27:30,880
» Yes.
>> Councilman?

1853
02:27:30,319 --> 02:27:32,720
» Yes.
>> Yes. Councilman Vay?

1854
02:27:32,399 --> 02:27:34,479
» Yes.
>> Councilman Snider?

1855
02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:38,000
» Yes.
>> Do I hear a motion to pass ordinance

1856
02:27:36,080 --> 02:27:41,120
312606?
>> I'll make a motion.

1857
02:27:39,120 --> 02:27:44,640
» Katie made the motion. Second.
>> I'll second.

1858
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:49,680
» Second by Scott. Discussion. So is there
are is our copier bad or is it

1859
02:27:47,439 --> 02:27:54,000
» um so our we have one more year on a
current uh lease. Um it is having some

1860
02:27:52,319 --> 02:27:58,000
problems. So they brought the repair
guy. He came down and said we can get a

1861
02:27:55,840 --> 02:28:03,040
new copier that can do more. And by
doing that it reduces our copy cost. So

1862
02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:07,200
the extra what $600 for the new copier
basically gets absorbed because we have

1863
02:28:04,640 --> 02:28:12,200
a reduced cost in our copy price. So it
equals out in the end and we get a

1864
02:28:08,399 --> 02:28:12,200
better copier. Okay.

1865
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:15,760
» All right. Roll call.
>> President Jamal?

1866
02:28:15,359 --> 02:28:17,359
» Yes.
>> Councilman Henry?

1867
02:28:16,960 --> 02:28:18,800
» Yes.
>> Councilman Pingorn?

1868
02:28:18,479 --> 02:28:20,399
» Yes.
>> Councilman Harris?

1869
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:21,920
» Yes.
>> Councilman?

1870
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:26,200
» Yes.
>> Councilman Snider?

1871
02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:26,200
» Yes.

1872
02:28:32,160 --> 02:28:38,720
» I promise this is the last one. We
normally don't have this many. an

1873
02:28:35,920 --> 02:28:41,680
ordinance or ordinance 312607,
an ordinance authorizing the mayor

1874
02:28:40,000 --> 02:28:45,600
and/or fiscal officer to enter into a
contract with the Baldwin Group for

1875
02:28:43,439 --> 02:28:48,080
Microsoft Word template module on the
village Pleasville mayor's court

1876
02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:52,399
software and the declaration of
emergency. Do I hear a motion to suspend

1877
02:28:50,479 --> 02:28:56,240
the rules and make this a declaration of
an emergency?

1878
02:28:54,399 --> 02:28:59,439
» I'll make a motion to suspend the rules
and declare a state of emergency.

1879
02:28:58,640 --> 02:29:03,840
» I'll second it.
>> Cory made the motion. Second by

1880
02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:08,080
Michelle. Discussion.
>> President. Yes.

1881
02:29:05,280 --> 02:29:09,439
» Councilman Counciloman Henry. Excuse me.
>> Yes.

1882
02:29:08,479 --> 02:29:10,800
» Council Pangorn.
>> Yes.

1883
02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:12,240
» Council Harrier.
>> Yes.

1884
02:29:11,120 --> 02:29:13,680
» Council Mike.
>> Yes.

1885
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:16,880
» Councilman Snder.
>> Yes.

1886
02:29:14,880 --> 02:29:20,359
» All right. Do I hear a motion to pass
ordinance 3122607?

1887
02:29:20,800 --> 02:29:23,680
» I'll make a motion.
>> Michelle made the motion. Do I hear a

1888
02:29:22,960 --> 02:29:27,439
second?
>> I'll second it.

1889
02:29:24,479 --> 02:29:29,200
» Second by Katie. Discussion.
>> Roll call.

1890
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:30,960
» President Jamal?
>> Yes.

1891
02:29:29,840 --> 02:29:32,960
» Councilman Henry?
>> Yes.

1892
02:29:31,520 --> 02:29:35,840
» Councilman?
>> Yes.

1893
02:29:33,359 --> 02:29:37,359
» Councilman Harrier? Yes, Councilman.
>> Yes,

1894
02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:40,359
» Councilman Snider.
>> Yes.

1895
02:29:40,640 --> 02:29:46,880
» All right, the last thing on our agenda
tonight for new business. Um, so we've

1896
02:29:45,120 --> 02:29:51,280
been getting complaints about uh pet
waste at our parks and different spots

1897
02:29:49,120 --> 02:29:57,600
throughout the village, including our
properties. Um, so Sam and Penny or Sam

1898
02:29:55,920 --> 02:30:01,680
reached out to City of Logan and got a
copy of their ordinance for everyone to

1899
02:29:58,880 --> 02:30:06,720
review. Um, just want to know people's
thoughts. Um, we did send it to the laws

1900
02:30:05,120 --> 02:30:11,600
committee and they did say just go ahead
and forward it up. Um, what are people's

1901
02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:17,200
thoughts in this before we have an
ordinance drafted?

1902
02:30:12,960 --> 02:30:21,040
» Well, we discussed all four
having a lovely ordinance for cleaning

1903
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:29,280
up after pets. We were a little
concerned about the penalty section. Um,

1904
02:30:23,840 --> 02:30:35,120
we felt that jail time was excessive for
dog waste. Um, and so we were going to

1905
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:40,319
come back around to Garver to see if
that is like standard practice. And now

1906
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:47,840
that we have an attorney, follow up with
him as well to see if that the penalty

1907
02:30:43,439 --> 02:30:52,399
tier is pretty standard. We It just
seems a little excessive that there

1908
02:30:49,680 --> 02:30:55,200
might be an option of jail time for dog
poop.

1909
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:59,439
» And I would ask, could we do community
service in jail time?

1910
02:30:57,600 --> 02:31:06,560
» Is that part of what what is already
there or is like one of the steps.

1911
02:31:02,399 --> 02:31:11,200
» So, it is a it is a according to Logan's
um basically it's a it's a hierarchy.

1912
02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:15,840
You know, your first time it's a it's a
M4 uh which you know those by state law

1913
02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:19,840
there's certain things that apply for
that up to $250 fine and up to three

1914
02:31:18,399 --> 02:31:23,520
months in jail, whatever it is off top
my head. Um and then it progresses if

1915
02:31:22,000 --> 02:31:28,319
you get caught again within a certain
period of time and up. Um, I know in the

1916
02:31:26,319 --> 02:31:33,120
past we've been told we could start with
anything misdemeanor up and just or keep

1917
02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:38,319
it as a misdemeanor. Um, but if you say
it is an M4, it's an M4.

1918
02:31:36,800 --> 02:31:42,560
» And so that's why we wanted to come back
to Chief Garber to see if that was

1919
02:31:40,319 --> 02:31:46,800
» I would just say that I I kind of tend
to agree. I think on the first

1920
02:31:45,439 --> 02:31:50,399
misdemeanor,
>> okay,

1921
02:31:47,280 --> 02:31:54,800
» which would be just a fine
>> and then you you know if you have the

1922
02:31:52,560 --> 02:32:00,240
same person doing the same problem, you
complaints and all you all you can ever

1923
02:31:56,560 --> 02:32:05,040
do is write them a $25 fine plus court
cost or whatever, then they may not

1924
02:32:02,479 --> 02:32:10,160
care. And so that's probably why they
employed the normal progressive, you

1925
02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:14,960
know, where second offense is now
a third degree, you know, so on so

1926
02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:19,120
forth. So then we can a compel them to
come to court

1927
02:32:16,960 --> 02:32:23,040
and then that is when you can throw on
your community like your community

1928
02:32:20,880 --> 02:32:29,359
service or
the fine or they want to come in here

1929
02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:32,359
and you know they don't care about this
law.

1930
02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:40,000
I don't have a preference of what to do.
Um,

1931
02:32:37,760 --> 02:32:44,840
I think a progressive penalty section is
probably normal for most things, but

1932
02:32:48,960 --> 02:32:57,120
» this would come through mayor's court.
>> Use type of misdemeanor would be able

1933
02:32:54,080 --> 02:32:59,600
for mayor's court. Yes. Um, so John, you
got one on the shelf that you want to

1934
02:32:58,640 --> 02:33:04,880
dust off.
>> Yeah. First of all, I bet it's I'll bet

1935
02:33:02,319 --> 02:33:08,080
it's covered in the American ordinances
that we disconnected.

1936
02:33:06,080 --> 02:33:13,479
» Okay. Now, I looked in there and I did
not find something for pet waste, but

1937
02:33:09,920 --> 02:33:13,479
again, yes,

1938
02:33:14,479 --> 02:33:21,040
» because we usually go to that first to
find it. And then if not, then we

1939
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:24,640
» we don't like enacting ordinances. Just
enact ordinances.

1940
02:33:22,880 --> 02:33:30,319
» I agree with the chief. Start with a
minor misdemeanor. because someone's are

1941
02:33:28,960 --> 02:33:36,399
you really going to hang a criminal
offense on them for the very

1942
02:33:33,359 --> 02:33:42,120
» you know misdemeanor you know it doesn't
show up on the record anywhere

1943
02:33:38,399 --> 02:33:42,120
» it gets be a problem

1944
02:33:42,560 --> 02:33:49,760
you get the second time
>> all right so do you have one on the

1945
02:33:46,560 --> 02:33:51,280
shelf you can dust off and write for us
>> this one's fine

1946
02:33:50,640 --> 02:33:54,560
» this one's fine
>> we just change

1947
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:58,319
misdemeanor of the fourth degree to
minor mis Would

1948
02:33:56,720 --> 02:34:00,399
you like to go ahead and draft an
ordinance based on this?

1949
02:33:59,680 --> 02:34:03,479
» Be happy to.
>> All right.

1950
02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:12,840
» Any other comments or questions on that?
That's what's going to be so nice about

1951
02:34:08,560 --> 02:34:12,840
this. It's just like John. Hey,

1952
02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:16,120
» most

1953
02:34:20,720 --> 02:34:24,319
» maybe even a second.
>> Yeah. You know,

1954
02:34:22,960 --> 02:34:26,240
» it's for those people that are doing it
on purpose.

1955
02:34:25,120 --> 02:34:29,880
» Yeah, they're doing it on purpose and
they're about

1956
02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:39,680
to talk about it.
>> All right. Um, that's all we have under

1957
02:34:38,479 --> 02:34:43,359
new business. Anyone else have new
business before we move on?

1958
02:34:42,080 --> 02:34:45,920
» All right. So, we'll go ahead and go
around the table. Scott, you have

1959
02:34:44,640 --> 02:34:50,880
anything?
>> Um, your upcoming note, thanking the

1960
02:34:48,720 --> 02:34:55,439
maintenance guys. Just wanted to
reiterate that too. Family member of

1961
02:34:52,720 --> 02:35:00,960
mine had a water break after hours and
uh Anthony came up from he was at

1962
02:34:58,640 --> 02:35:04,800
Menards in Langster and he dropped came
and helped and shut the water off so we

1963
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:09,439
could get someone in there to fix it and
the guys came and turned it back on and

1964
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:12,160
looked at it and told my uh my dad it
looked okay. So I appreciate the help on

1965
02:35:11,760 --> 02:35:15,120
that.
>> I never relay this stuff to them because

1966
02:35:13,840 --> 02:35:20,560
I just tell them they do a terrible job
and they work harder. So

1967
02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:24,960
» you're doing good. Yes.
All right, Katie, you have anything?

1968
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:28,640
» Nope. I believe I'm good.
>> Courtney?

1969
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:33,520
» Yes. If Corey doesn't mind me tacking on
to the recreations committee, uh we were

1970
02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:34,399
also discussing establishing a one-year
plan.

1971
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:39,359
» Okay.
>> As part of the responsibilities of our

1972
02:35:37,439 --> 02:35:44,080
committee. And so we were going to
actually send out a survey

1973
02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:48,000
» to the community to see what they would
like to see. Um, it's going to be a

1974
02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:50,240
short survey, no more than five
questions. And we're going to work with

1975
02:35:49,359 --> 02:35:55,040
Sam
>> on just doing a QR code, send it to

1976
02:35:52,640 --> 02:35:56,560
Survey Monkey, let it all populate from
there.

1977
02:35:55,439 --> 02:36:00,319
» All right.
>> Thanks for saying that. I had forgotten.

1978
02:35:58,319 --> 02:36:04,080
» Yep. That's where all these projects
start is with ideas and we need them. I

1979
02:36:02,640 --> 02:36:06,720
mean, we only think of what we know
about. So,

1980
02:36:05,439 --> 02:36:10,399
» all right, Michelle.
>> So, I would just say that the American

1981
02:36:08,560 --> 02:36:15,520
Legion is going to start having their
every Sunday down at the marathon.

1982
02:36:13,359 --> 02:36:21,120
» Yeah. So, and that is kind of and
supporting you know a function. So

1983
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:25,760
» pass the word and then I would like to
ask if maybe Sam can put it on the

1984
02:36:22,880 --> 02:36:31,120
website or something
>> so that other other people

1985
02:36:28,399 --> 02:36:33,840
» see it gets advertised and gets
traction.

1986
02:36:31,840 --> 02:36:35,920
» Yep. Yeah. That's how they pay their
bills every year.

1987
02:36:34,720 --> 02:36:40,319
» Yeah.
>> And when they don't have money to cover

1988
02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:46,080
it, Pete pays the bills.
So,

1989
02:36:42,080 --> 02:36:50,720
» so Monday is I believe our Lions
meeting. So, John, you can join the

1990
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:55,200
Lions.
>> And if you do, then I get credit for it

1991
02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:59,040
and I get a pin anyway
>> because you're the first to say it.

1992
02:36:56,960 --> 02:37:01,920
» Correct.
>> If he joins the Lions, he's going to

1993
02:37:00,399 --> 02:37:03,120
want to join the Masons. And if he's a
veteran,

1994
02:37:02,479 --> 02:37:06,720
» Here's the thing.
>> I can't solistic. I my own parents

1995
02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:10,560
wouldn't join for me, but they joined
for Michael's part or for Jason's

1996
02:37:08,560 --> 02:37:15,040
partner. I'm just saying.
>> I I would also notate that I was told by

1997
02:37:12,960 --> 02:37:18,479
the Millerport Lions at our last meeting
that the event that you guys had that

1998
02:37:16,720 --> 02:37:21,120
they attended was very nice.
>> It was well it was wellreceived and well

1999
02:37:20,399 --> 02:37:23,920
talked about.
>> I I'm going to get the dishwashing award

2000
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:26,479
again this year.
>> You are.

2001
02:37:24,640 --> 02:37:30,080
» Trust and believe I can do some dishes.
>> Bob, you have anything? Oh, sorry. I'm

2002
02:37:28,640 --> 02:37:32,560
sorry. Don't mean to rush you. And we
also have Bunny with the Breakfast with

2003
02:37:31,760 --> 02:37:34,080
the Bunny on the 20th.
>> Oh yeah,

2004
02:37:33,040 --> 02:37:36,720
» don't forget.
>> Tell all your people.

2005
02:37:35,359 --> 02:37:41,200
» Yeah. No Easter egg hunt.
>> No Easter egg hunt.

2006
02:37:39,200 --> 02:37:45,600
» Um we moved to the Breakfast with the
Bunny Lions Los

2007
02:37:44,160 --> 02:37:48,479
Masons at American.
>> Are you still doing raffle baskets like

2008
02:37:47,760 --> 02:37:50,880
last year?
>> Yes, that's the plan.

2009
02:37:49,439 --> 02:37:53,840
» Oh, because we had our meeting last
night. We didn't discuss that. Oh,

2010
02:37:52,399 --> 02:37:57,200
» it didn't didn't come to my attention.
So

2011
02:37:54,880 --> 02:38:00,319
» do an email.
>> Yes, we have a bunny. We have a bunny.

2012
02:37:59,760 --> 02:38:05,160
» So
>> John, you didn't know about it. It was

2013
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:05,160
you.

2014
02:38:06,720 --> 02:38:10,240
» Welcome to the club.
>> All right. Is that it?

2015
02:38:09,840 --> 02:38:13,120
» That's it.
>> All right, Paul.

2016
02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:16,240
» All right, Penny.
>> Um, I don't have anything.

2017
02:38:14,720 --> 02:38:22,319
» Okay. Same.
>> Okay. Um, yes. In your packet there is a

2018
02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:27,200
thank you for um our maintenance team uh
for a water break that happened and they

2019
02:38:25,120 --> 02:38:31,920
went out. Um, it's nice to get these. We
got those last month because of the snow

2020
02:38:29,120 --> 02:38:36,560
warriors that they um all the work they
did. So, it's it's nice, you know, to

2021
02:38:34,080 --> 02:38:42,960
have members of the public come out and
and thank um employees. So, that's

2022
02:38:39,359 --> 02:38:47,439
great. Um yeah, Corey mentioned Easter
is coming up, so the village and we've

2023
02:38:45,280 --> 02:38:50,080
had this forever. Um you know, an event
with a bunny. It's been changed over to

2024
02:38:48,880 --> 02:38:54,319
breakfast with a bunny. So, we have
opportunities to feed in this town. Um,

2025
02:38:53,120 --> 02:39:00,960
again, that's all sponsored through the
Lions Club, Masonic Temple, Losoma, and

2026
02:38:58,319 --> 02:39:04,800
the American Legion. Uh, we also have,
just as a reminder, it is lent fish fry

2027
02:39:03,040 --> 02:39:08,560
at the Thirstston Methodist Church, uh,
tomorrow. $12,

2028
02:39:07,520 --> 02:39:10,800
» $13.
>> Bob's cooking.

2029
02:39:09,359 --> 02:39:13,439
» Bob's cooking.
>> And it's good.

2030
02:39:12,319 --> 02:39:17,680
» Um,
>> I think that's all the public things

2031
02:39:14,800 --> 02:39:22,000
that we have coming up until our next
meeting. So, um,

2032
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:26,520
» I got two things.
Okay.

2033
02:39:23,359 --> 02:39:26,520
I forgot

2034
02:39:30,640 --> 02:39:37,560
class
for mental health and it helps the

2035
02:39:34,319 --> 02:39:37,560
police offic.

2036
02:39:44,399 --> 02:39:52,080
And then along with that, the board of
developmental disabilities came out with

2037
02:39:49,120 --> 02:39:56,560
like a blue envelope program to hand out
to people on traffic stop. It's kind of

2038
02:39:54,720 --> 02:40:00,560
like a notice packet to let the police
officer know

2039
02:39:58,880 --> 02:40:05,680
this person has, you know, whatever the
case is. So they understand why the

2040
02:40:03,840 --> 02:40:11,760
person may be reacting that way. And I
think that's really important because it

2041
02:40:07,680 --> 02:40:15,840
is becoming more and more we run into it
a lot.

2042
02:40:13,920 --> 02:40:19,600
And sometimes police mishandle that they
misunderstand

2043
02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:24,000
» how the person's reacting because
they're under stress because of the

2044
02:40:20,880 --> 02:40:28,000
situation and that I think the officer
changed the tune completely and you know

2045
02:40:26,319 --> 02:40:32,080
instead of they're not resisting they
just don't understand they're scared you

2046
02:40:29,600 --> 02:40:37,840
know whatever so
>> those two things

2047
02:40:34,479 --> 02:40:43,280
that's training for him
offic

2048
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:46,640
» awesome say training is good So, John,
you have anything before we close?

2049
02:40:45,200 --> 02:40:50,560
» All right. Again, thank you. We
appreciate it. Thank you for showing up.

2050
02:40:47,920 --> 02:40:53,120
We look forward to working with you.
>> Yep.

2051
02:40:51,439 --> 02:40:55,680
» All right. Do I hear a motion?
>> I'll make a motion to adjurnn.

2052
02:40:54,399 --> 02:40:57,680
» Cory made the motion. Do I hear a
second?

2053
02:40:56,960 --> 02:41:01,920
» I'll second.
>> Second by Michelle. All in favor?

2054
02:41:00,399 --> 02:41:08,439
» Same sign.
>> Good night, everyone.

2055
02:41:05,200 --> 02:41:08,439
» That's marathon.

2056
02:41:09,200 --> 02:41:12,359
Oh yeah.

2057
02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:19,960
» His name is D.