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Mhm.

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» Mhm.

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» All right.
Let us begin.

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She did. I gave her 3 minutes, so
Okay, I think we're right.

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All right, welcome.
Excuse me.

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We're ready to roll.
Thank you.

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Hey, y'all. Welcome to the Village of
Rye Brook Planning Board meeting.

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And I'd like to rise for the Pledge of
Allegiance.

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Thank you and welcome again. My name is
Robert Goodman. I'm chair of the

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Planning Board. Um my colleagues also in
attendance tonight are Kevin Branch,

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John Grizzan, Amy Shown, and Lenny
Baseman.

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Uh Scott Mendelson and Ed Teague are
excused for tonight. Also in attendance

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is our liaison from the Board of
Trustees, David Heiser.

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Give him a hand. I always miss it. There
There you go.

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There you go. Mhm?
>> Right or left?

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» Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh.
Oh, yes. And and Trustee Frome

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for the air.
Okay.

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You see You Okay. I wasn't going to
invite him. But anyway, our village

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attorney,
um, is Pamela Veña, our Superintendent

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of Public Works, Michael Noack, and our
village planning consultant from

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Hardesty and Hanover, Sarah Brown.
Our, uh, planning board secretary is

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Tara Orlando,
and, uh, who does all the minutes and

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does all the organization behind the
scenes. So, thank you, Tara.

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Uh, I'll remind everyone that, uh, we do
have streaming videos, so videos of past

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planning board meetings can be accessed
through the Rye Brook, uh, uh, website.

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Uh, also our board rules and, uh, and
past minutes.

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Uh,
we don't have any

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minutes to consider, so we can start our
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uh, which is 15 Lock Lane.
>> Um, Mr. Chairman, can I just say

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something? I would just like to plead
with everybody to speak into your

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microphones because you don't realize
it, but you can't hear anything, even on

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broadcast.
There are only certain microphones that

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come through. And particularly at the
podium, it's very hard to hear with the

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air conditioning, and people tend to
forget and don't speak You have to talk

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right into it. You can't just go to the
side. Speak into it, please.

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Thank you.
>> Um, just a preliminary with this

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application. How many here for this
application out there in the public?

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Okay.
All right, uh, Jessica.

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» Yes.
>> Why don't you wrap this wrap this on up?

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» Of course. Um, good evening. Uh, for the
record, my name is Jessica Zelen with

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the law firm of Cuddy and Feder LLP
appearing on behalf of the applicants

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Jonathan and Victoria Steiner. I am
joined tonight by Matthew Oscar, the

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project architect, Nicholas Sherer of
Hudson Engineering, the project

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engineer,
Eliana Becerra of William Kenny

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Associates, the wetlands consultant and
landscape architect for the project, and

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we are all here tonight in connection
with the continued public hearing on

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this application, uh, for site plan and
wetland permit approval for the proposed

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addition to the existing residence, the
installation of the proposed new

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swimming pool and cabana within the rear
yard and associated

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site.
Getting some feedback. Site improvements

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to the property located at 15 Locust
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Uh, it's been a few months since we were
last before the board. Um, there are no

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members of the public here. Um, so I'll
take a step back and let the board, uh,

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direct me how much you'd like to hear
from me and my team or whether you'd

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like to lead the conversation.
>> I think the major issue related to the

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flood rise.
And that has been a technical issue that

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has consumed the parties, both the
village and your team for quite some

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time. I gather the DEC flood plain
management agency has signed off

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on the, uh, engineering. So, that is
really the last issue

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that we were, uh, dealing with with this
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application.
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we do have a, uh, does any member of the
planning board have any additional

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questions for the applicant?
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» Okay.
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we have a if there's anyone that wants
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public, we still have a public hearing.
If not, I'd like a motion and second to

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close the public hearing.
>> Moved.

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» Second.

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» Mr. Branch.
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» Mr. Graziano.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Shawn.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Basement.
>> Yes.

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» Chairman Goodman.
>> Yes.

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» Thank you.
>> Okay, now Pam, we have a a resolution.

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Um, you can summarize it, but
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the conditions for the most
Thanks.

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» The resolution addresses the
application for site plan approval,

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wetland permit, and flood plain
development permit for 15 Lock Lane. As

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the applicant has discussed, it involves
construction of a two-story addition,

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removal of an existing deck,
construction of a pool, a new rear deck,

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patio, cabana,
and new exterior basement stairs, among

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other things. The Village of Rye Brook
is the appropriate authority for site

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plan approval, as well as wetland permit
approval. The applicant does propose

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development within an area of special
flood hazard. Therefore, a flood plain

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development permit is required, which,
if approved, will be issued by the

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Village Superintendent of Public Works.
The Planning Board and its staff and

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consultants reviewed a variety of
documents listed in the resolution.

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This proposed action is a type two
action under SEQRA, requiring no further

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environmental review.
The Planning Board, the Village Planning

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Consultant, and the Village Engineering
Consultant, as well as Village staff,

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have all reviewed all application
materials

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and made recommendations.
A public hearing was opened on April

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9th. It was continued until today,
August 13th, and has now been closed.

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Since portions of the project's swimming
pool and cabana will be built in the

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FEMA floodway for the Hillside Avenue
Brook, the project will require

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mitigative regrading for flood
conveyance within the floodway to

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achieve no rise in floodway elevation.

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The uh proposed addition to the
residence and the new deck, swimming

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pool, patio, cabana, and area of
regrading are all proposed to be located

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within the 100 wet foot wetland buffer,
and will result in an area of

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disturbance of 6,135
square feet.

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As required under the village code, this
will mandate that mitigation for

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disturbance of the wetland buffer be
made at a ratio of 2:1, which will

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involve 12,270
square feet of mitigation that has been

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proposed.
The planning board has considered the

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wetland permit standards, as well as the
site plan approval standards, and

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subject to the applicant's compliance
with the conditions set forth herein,

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the applicant's proposed to provide
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square feet of that wetland mitigation
on site through

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a wetland buffer habitat enhancement
plan, which will include native

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vegetation, as well as 5,435
square feet of offsite wetland

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mitigation at the Edgewood Drive
at Edgewood Drive and Bluebird Hollow.

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The planning board resolves to
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and determines that the site plan and
wetland permit applications meet all the

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applicable standards set forth in
village code, and will grant the site

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plan approval and wetland permit if they
affirmatively vote on it.

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I will recite the non-standard
conditions uh verbatim, so everyone can

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hear them.
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First, and this isn't the first
condition, but the first I'm going to

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recite is that prior to issuance of a
building permit or wetland permit, the

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applicant shall grant access to the New
York State Department of Environmental

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Conservation for inspection, testing,
and if necessary, remediation of toxic

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chemicals and/or heavy metals. In the
alternative, prior to the issuance of a

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building permit or wetland permit,
should the New York State Department of

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Environmental Conservation determine
that inspection and testing on the

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property is not warranted upon
completing their

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um ins- planned inspection and testing
outlined in their site characterization

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work plan,
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In addition, another condition is that
prior to issuance of the building

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permit,
a drainage easement to the Village of

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Rye Brook in the location shown on the
approved plans shall be submitted for an

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existing underground culvert in a form
acceptable to the Village Attorney and

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approved by the Village Board of
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The applicant will be required to record
the easement in the Westchester County,

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and proof of recording must be submitted
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An additional con- uh condition is that
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permit, the applicant shall submit a
declaration of restrictive covenants on

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the property applicable to the applicant
as well as all successors and assigns in

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a recordable form that's acceptable to
the Village Attorney. The declaration of

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restrictive covenants shall state that
after the certificate of occupancy has

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been issued for all components of the
proposed project, no further disturbance

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shall be permitted within the floodway
as shown on a map with exhibits

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without prior written approval of the
Village of Rye Brook Planning Board. The

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declaration of restrictive covenants
shall be recorded

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and um
prior to issuance of the certificate of

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occupancy.
In addition, the applicant must uh

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conform to all comments of the village
consulting engineer

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as uh referenced in the June 10th, 2026
memo. And in addition, prior to issuance

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of a building permit, the applicant
shall secure a flood plain development

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permit from the village superintendent
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All plantings that will be required in
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plan shall be maintained by the property
owner and replaced as necessary or as

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determined by the village superintendent
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Prior to the issuance of the building
permit, additional wetland mitigation of

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5,435
square feet shall be added to the

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approved plans to the satisfaction of
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In a form either of offsite wetland
mitigation

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as described earlier, onsite mitigation
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The applicant shall submit a two-year
monitoring and maintenance bond for

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offsite mitigation if such mitigation is
authorized by the Board of Trustees.

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If offsite mitigation is pursued prior
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applicant shall obtain liability and
workers compensation insurance specific

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to the work to be completed at Edgewood
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detention basin.

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The The remaining conditions are all
standard conditions.

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And the resolution says no permits shall
be issued until applicants have paid the

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village all applicable fees and
professional review fees

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that were incurred in connection with
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And that is in sense sum and substance
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» Are there any comments by members of the
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» Once we approve the resolution, what is
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Once you approve we approve the
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approval?
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building permit, I mean, take years.
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They may have to come back
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» Um condition 12 of the resolution states
that the planning board's wetland permit

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approval shall be valid for a period of
1 year from the date of the resolution,

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and the any permit issued is also valid
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» Okay, I have another question.
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building permit is is valid for 6 months
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Once issued and work begins, that permit
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» with all those conditions, it may take
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issue the building permit.
So, our approval may be void by then.

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» But that's that's within the code.
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» Okay, so yeah.
>> They may have to come back.

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» They have to come back with
>> They have to come back

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» I have a
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the maintenance bond, what happens?

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» So, which point the bond would be uh
sunsetted and returned back to the

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applicant, and the bond would be closed
out, and at that point then the

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landscaping becomes part of the
village's uh property and maintenance.

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» Okay, thank you.
>> You said they come back. Would they come

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back asking for an extension? They come
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» No, extension.
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» Any changes to the project would require
further planning board review and would

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be an amendment to any approved uh site
plan application.

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» I just I just hope it's just an
extension that they don't have to go

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through this process again.
I don't We hope the same.

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» think to.
>> Thank you.

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» Our applicant, are you satisfied with
the language of the uh

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» I I do have one uh comment. Um Ms. Vania
and I have been discussing the uh first

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red condition all
repeatedly throughout the day. Uh we

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just have a request that um
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the first
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clause
we add to it um to note that prior to

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the issuance of the building permit or
wetland permit for any work that

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requires excavation of soils,
um these conditions would have to be

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fulfilled. So, in the event that the
applicant wants to do some interior work

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that requires a building permit or wants
to do work that does not require

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disturbance of the soils,
um we would not have to wait for the

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full term of the investigation to be
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» I think I think that's reasonable.
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Thank you. Would you like me to reread
that condition?

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» Yeah, why don't you reread it?

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» So, this is condition two after the now
therefore now therefore be it resolved

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clause. It will now read, prior to the
issuance of a building permit or wetland

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permit for work that requires excavation
of soils

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the application the applicants, excuse
me, shall grant access to the New York

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State DEC for inspection, testing, and
if necessary remediation of toxic

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chemicals and or heavy metals. In the
alternative

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prior to the issuance of a building
permit or wetland permit for work that

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requires excavation of soils
should the New York State DEC determine

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that inspection and testing on the
property is not warranted

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this condition shall be satisfied.
I left some things out, but

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substantially that's
>> Well, you can amend you can you know,

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we'll we'll adopt it as amended.
And you can circulate

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the revised
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unless there are further comments
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Can I
Do we have to have a motion to close the

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public hearing?
>> No, we already did. The public hearing

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is closed.
>> Do we want to make a motion second for

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the amended
to accept the amendment?

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» Yes.
I mean, if we need to do that. Do we

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need to do that? Moved. All right.
>> Second.

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» So, Amy
and Lenny.

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» Mr. Branch.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Grizan.
>> Yes.

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» Michonne.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Weisman.
>> Yes.

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» Chairman Goodman.
>> Yes.

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» Yes.

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» Okay, now
Right. Now, since we have an amended

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resolution, can I have a motion to
second to adopt that resolution as

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amended?
>> Moved.

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» Second.

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» So, we're approving the resolution as
amended. Mr. Branch.

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» Yes.
>> Mr. Grizan.

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» Yes.
>> Mr.

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Michonne.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Weisman.
>> Yes.

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» Chairman Goodman.
>> Yes.

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» All approved. Thank you.
>> Thank you everyone for your time and

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working on this project with us.

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» Yeah, I know.

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Okay, our next matter is
Dorchester Drive and 20 19 Dorchester

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Drive and 23 Dorchester Drive. Just out
of curiosity, how many people in

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attendance
are here for that application?

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Okay.
>> We have to open the public hearing.

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» Yep.
Can I have a motion to second to open

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the public hearing?
>> Moved.

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» Second.

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» Mr. Branch.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Grizan.
>> Yes.

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» Ms. Shawn.
>> Yes.

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» Mr. Teague. Uh I'm sorry. Mr. Weisman.
>> Yes.

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» Chairman Goodman.
>> Yes.

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» Thank you.

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Okay. Now, how we will like to proceed
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» the mic's off.
>> Yeah, sorry.

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How we would like to proceed with this
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So, we will entertain some comments from
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project.
But, as we've probably been in contact

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with you, there are certain documents
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sort of firmed up.
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ask our professionals just to detail
what additional what what additional

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things they need from you.
>> Right.

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» And then we'll we can have a more
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I think the public knows the project in
general. And so, the comments may be

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helpful.
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uh Sarah, why don't we start with the
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What do we have and what do we need?
>> So, we did receive some updated

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materials today um from the applicant um
and it looks like it was a complete

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submission from what I was able to
briefly look at uh before the meeting.

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We were waiting from our end uh an
updated site plan with uh the new

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plantings on them with all the species
information. We're also waiting for

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details on the fencing around and the
screening around the tennis court and

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some sound attenuation information,
which has also been submitted. So, our

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office will we like I said, we just
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reviewing that for your next meeting.
>> Okay. Uh Michael, any anything from your

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corner?
>> From stormwater management perspective,

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I believe we're wrapped up. Um I'm going
to re-review it pending whatever happens

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here in the um public hearing if there
any changes made, but I think overall on

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my end
>> Okay. All right. Um

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so
we we understand what needs to be done.

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We got submissions today, so I can't
expect the staff to review these

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submissions.
>> update on the

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actual
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» Right. That's That's actually a
obviously the sound issue is is a

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significant issue.
So the screening and any sound

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attenuation equipment or materials
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you know, I I would let our
professionals know what you're planning

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on doing so that they can review them
with you.

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Uh there may be some materials that work
and some that do not.

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Um
but on that score, we do have members of

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the public that have
made their you know

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Yeah, go ahead.
>> I read the draft resolution, which I

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know we're not going to get to it today.
>> Right.

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» But when you read that for the first
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» Talking to the
>> that's why I would like Chris to go

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over. It's really not sure what is it
that the we are approving. Is it a

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tennis court? Is it a tennis court plus
basketball?

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With lights, no lights, or something
like that. So I I think uh

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uh there's going to be some conditions
along the way on that resolution, but I

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think for the public benefit, it would
be good if Chris goes over the plan and

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describe what is it that really
they are proposing.

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» Okay, Jessica.
>> Remember we saw initially just a tennis

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court and then along the way came the
basketball.

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Is it one hoop, two hoops? I think it's
it would be nice to know that.

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» Okay.
>> I think I know it, but I think it would

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be nice for everybody to know.
>> let's get it on the record. So, why

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don't you why don't you at least
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you know, provide some
recapitulate your the the the project.

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» yeah, we've had two prior meetings.
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obviously the immediate neighbors uh
attending those. So, this is basically

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our first official
uh public hearing.

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» Right. Correct.
>> So, I assume we're kind of starting from

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scratch in case there are other people
that received the notice

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um within the 250-ft radius.
>> Yeah, I think since we're on the record

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for the public hearing, I think John is
right. I think we should probably be a

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good start.
>> through the whole

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thing as if we were starting from
scratch just so that it Yeah, I mean,

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most of us I think in the room are fully
aware of what's

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» abbreviated at at selected points you
choose, but I think I think it would be

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good for the public to have an idea of
of what the project is. And of course,

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what we were we were talking about 5
minutes ago was firming up the plan so

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that our professionals can do
uh some some technical evaluation of

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what the plan sort of mean from the
standpoint of

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» Right.
>> landscaping and

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etc. So.
>> Yeah, as far as the site plan goes, that

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was um
nothing has been modified in way of

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grading, contours we did um
uh designate the steep slope area

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uh also.
But, I'll

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get the show on the road, I guess and uh
I'm Chris Galfo,

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uh owner and project manager of Optimum
Building.

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And I'm here this evening on behalf of
Jason and Angela Ryan

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regarding the proposed lot merger
associated resident associated

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residential site improvements at 19 and
23 Dorchester Drive.

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Uh since our prior appearances before
the planning board, we have continued to

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work closely with the village staff
and the consultants, professionals, and

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uh our own design and engineering team
to respond to the comments and concerns

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raised during the review process.
>> Just

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I'm sorry. Uh something just occurred.
You keep saying 1923. What is the

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address going to be of this home?
>> 19.

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» Okay. Thank you.
>> So, right. The 23 is the uh

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» Once we merge the lots, I will Once we
merge them,

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right.
We'll work on the number.

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» Okay.
Um we have taken the comments received

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during the prior meeting seriously, and
and the plans have been revised in

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several important areas.
In particular, we have focused on the

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issues that appeared to generate the
greatest concern during the review

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process. Stormwater management, uh
drainage, landscaping,

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visual screening, steep slope
conditions, and sound mitigation

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associated with the proposed tennis
court.

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Uh the stormwater management plan has
been substantially reviewed and revised

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since our earlier meetings, and our
engineers have continued to respond to

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the technical comments provided through
the village's engineering review, and

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the drainage design has been revised
accordingly.

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The revised uh system is intended to
collect and manage stormwater associated

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with the proposed tennis court, pool
house,

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uh pool area, and existing residential
improvements on the property

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uh with the objective of managing that
runoff on site and minimizing the

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impacts to the surrounding properties.

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There has also been discussions
regarding areas of the steep slopes on

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the property, and those areas have now
been identified on the plans, and we

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understand that a separate steep slopes
work permit

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application will be required as part of
the approval process.

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Um landscaping, the landscaping plan has
also been uh substantially revised in

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response to comments received during the
prior meetings.

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Our objective has been to provide
meaningful screening of the proposed

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tennis court while maintaining an
appropriate residential landscape for

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the property and the surrounding
neighborhood.

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Uh the revised plan incorporates
substantial evergreen screening around

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the court together with additional
deciduous shade trees throughout the

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property.
Since our last appearance, the the large

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28-in maple uh
existing uh along the Dorchester

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frontage was unfortunately lost uh
during the storm.

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And as part of the revised landscape
plan, we are we are proposing three red

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maple trees
along the front of the property as

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replacement uh trees in the village
right-of-way.

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Uh the overall landscaping plan has been
designed not to

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uh not simply to meet planting
requirements, but to create a

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substantial visual buffer between the
proposed improvements, Dorchester Drive,

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and the adjoining properties as the
plantings mature.

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The proposed tennis court uh remains
located towards the rear portion

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of this approximately 1-acre residential
property.

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One point that I think is important when
uh viewing the site plan is the actual

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scale and relationship of these
improvements to the street and

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neighboring properties.
The proposed court is approximately 75

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ft.
>> Do you have

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I keep looking uh at the screen.
Hopefully, that some drawing is going to

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appear, but nothing is appearing.
>> I'm not a Mac guy, so I didn't I tried

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to figure out

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landscape

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That's right, right?
Right here.

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Yeah.

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» Okay, so you did
Uh the proposed tennis court remains

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located toward the rear portion of the
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We said that. Uh the proposed court is
approximately 75 ft back from the from

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the curb.
Uh and the proposed pool house is

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approximately 150 ft from the street.
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the court will have no lighting.
As the board is aware, portions of the

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proposed tennis court uh fencing are 10
ft in height and the required zoning

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relief for that fencing has been
addressed through the separate zoning

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board process.
Uh the additional fence height is

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functional for the use of the court and
also provides an opportunity to

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incorporate additional visual screening
and sound mitigation measures into the

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overall design.
We also recognize that uh that sound

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associated with the use of this court
has been an important concern expressed

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during the prior review process.
We have not ignored that concern.

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We are continuing to evaluate the
appropriate sound mitigation system and

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the supporting technical information so
that what is ultimately submitted to the

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board is accurate,
appropriate for the specific

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installation, and can be properly
reviewed by the board and its

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consultants.
That work is being developed and we

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intend to provide the board with the
appropriate specifications and

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supporting documentation as part of the
continuing review process.

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This application has now been before the
planning board on more than one occasion

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and with each review we have attempted
to respond constructively to the

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comments
we have received.

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Uh the project before you tonight
reflects those efforts. The the drainage

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design has been revised.
The landscaping and screening plan has

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been revised.
Steep slope areas have been identified

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and will be addressed through the
required permitting process.

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And we continue to work on the
appropriate sound mitigation measures

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associated with the tennis court.
Uh we understand that some of the most

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recent revised materials may require
additional time for review by the board

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through which staff and consultants and
we certainly respect that process.

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» You want to go through your sound
John?

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» Yeah,
so we'll just go to

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So with the the landscaping plan here
um

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the changes that were made were
uh

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within the tennis court area
on the uh

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left side in the rear which original
landscape design had deciduous trees.

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They were changed to um
native evergreens to have a constant

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coverage of the fencing and the court as
opposed to deciduous.

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» Could you point out I'm sorry.
>> Could you point out your entry and

449
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:13,280
egress points for the court?
>> Thank you.

450
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:20,240
» So we have a 10-ft fencing on the rear
the left side and the and the front.

451
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:25,600
We have 10-ft comes back at 18 ft from
the front and the rear 18 ft and then it

452
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:30,160
drops down to 5 ft
in the center portion from from this

453
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:33,160
area to here and our entry is
dead center at the net.

454
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,000
» So, one.
>> One entry.

455
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:40,360
» Do you have the rendering available in
your hands? If you show the rendering it

456
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:44,480
would save you a lot of time explaining
it. I think it really shows how well you

457
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:47,800
are doing this.
>> And also if you could just tell us what

458
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:53,000
kind of
evergreens

459
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:59,040
» Uh the evergreens are white spruce
along the rear and the left side.

460
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,040
And then the front section

461
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,720
Uh
across the front with emerald greens

462
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,720
arborvitae.

463
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:16,200
Uh
and then along the street line

464
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:20,400
is a green giant arborvitae here and up
this side stop at that point and then we

465
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,080
go to white spruce
from the front of the tennis court to

466
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:28,280
the rear.
And white spruce continues across the

467
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:32,640
back.
And then we go to sugar maple across the

468
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:37,160
back
by the pool area.

469
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:40,480
» Please, you keep Again, I I apologize
for interrupting you. You keep referring

470
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,360
to tennis court but if you look at the
middle drawings, that's a basketball

471
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,480
court there, correct?
>> Yes.

472
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:51,400
» I think we need to make that known so
that everybody is aware that there will

473
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:55,280
be one basketball hoop on it so there
will be no surprises later on once we go

474
00:37:54,080 --> 00:38:01,120
through the approval.
>> Yeah, there's plans for for one

475
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:05,280
one hoop on the rear on the back side.
Um there's also

476
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:10,200
the neighboring properties on the rear
here have a large uh

477
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:14,080
green giant arborvitae across the back.
They're standing right now at about 12

478
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:18,240
to 14 ft.
And then continue across the other

479
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:21,440
property here at about 10
which I have a picture of.

480
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:28,720
So, that's the neighboring property.
Those are the existing Arborvitae's that

481
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,840
are here.
And again, some are standing as tall as

482
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:37,520
14 ft.
Uh this particular PVC fence that you

483
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:43,200
see in the picture here is being uh
removed and relocated

484
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:47,280
to be put along the the entire rear of
the property.

485
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:51,880
So we have several layers of um somewhat
sound control, right? The neighboring

486
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:58,080
property plus the new plantings that
we're we're going to uh install along

487
00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:01,560
with the 6-ft fencing.
>> Did you have a rendering?

488
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:06,520
» Yeah.
Let me just go through them.

489
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:09,760
» And the zoning board did approve the
give you a variance for a 10-ft fence.

490
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,560
» Yes.
>> They did, yes.

491
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:22,280
Uh these were just uh
snapshots of um

492
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,800
other tennis courts in in Rye Brook on
down on Lincoln Avenue.

493
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:38,600
Um as far as fencing goes, this fence is
a 10-ft, so this is the

494
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:42,640
similar fencing that we're
we're proposing to install.

495
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:47,480
And again, on the interior side of the
property, the fence is going to drop

496
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,480
down to 5 ft.

497
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:55,440
And that's of course to
control the errant balls that

498
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,360
so they're not winding up in the
neighbor's uh backyard.

499
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:05,920
» And the sound absorbing barrier material
would

500
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,960
That's correct.
>> Correct. Yeah, so on the on the on the

501
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,440
left side in the rear.
>> Okay.

502
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,880
» Have you had the chance to investigate
sort of what materials

503
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,760
you're you may be thinking about?
>> what's the question?

504
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,720
» Yes, Sonic sound guard is one particular
material we're looking at.

505
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,520
» Right.
>> Um right now which I

506
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:32,920
which we're going to submit. That's part
of that um study that uh was presented

507
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:37,320
to the village.
Um that's got a whole full report of the

508
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,800
actual site.
>> Have you Have you provide you've

509
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,240
provided that?
>> We did today.

510
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,520
» Oh, today?
>> It's just Yeah.

511
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,040
» All right.
>> Yeah, we just received it today and that

512
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,560
was submitted.
>> All right.

513
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:51,840
» This is a rendering of uh both
properties.

514
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:57,120
The Ryans' existing home here.
Proposed pool house in the back. Again,

515
00:40:54,600 --> 00:41:02,880
150 ft off the street.
Tennis court here with the arborvitaes.

516
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:07,680
And the white spruce along the left side
and the rear.

517
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:11,120
Um this is not showing cuz that was just
recent. The red maples are going to be

518
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:16,600
planted along
the village right-of-way.

519
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:21,200
Uh that's an existing birch tree.
Uh

520
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,200
That's existing.

521
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:29,040
Uh eventually that's the evergreen
arborvitaes that are quite quite mature

522
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,320
in this picture. But that's ultimately
what what will wind up in front of the

523
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,400
tennis court.
>> Mhm.

524
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:40,520
» I mean, we're planting uh the exist the
new plantings will start at uh 7 ft. Um

525
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:44,480
and they grow
1 to 2 ft a year.

526
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:48,040
» Okay.
>> It was requested that any evergreens

527
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:53,040
that we plant along the left side,
especially the white spruce, have some

528
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:57,720
good spacing so that they're not growing
into each other in 2 years. So, within

529
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:03,080
within a
10-year period, they'll just touch and

530
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:07,040
and not be ripped out in in 10 years
because they're overgrowing and dying.

531
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,040
» Right.

532
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,480
» I recall at the last meeting, the open
issue was really the sound attenuation.

533
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,080
» Right.
>> Yes. And that's And that's where all

534
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,360
this is about. The
The landscaping, uh the the character of

535
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,480
the landscaping.
>> was the lighting also.

536
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,240
» That I think has been resolved. They're
not putting lights.

537
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,360
» There is no lights. That was said at the
very first time we met.

538
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:35,600
» Right. Right.
>> I hope that sound attenuation material

539
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:42,360
is uh green color, not uh
>> So it blends well with the uh greenery.

540
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,240
» really see it. Sorry, John.
You were saying the color of the

541
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,600
screening?
>> Yes.

542
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,720
» Yes, I believe we were going back and
forth between black and green, but

543
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,480
obviously
>> Something that would blend well with the

544
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,920
with the surrounding
>> No pink?

545
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:59,040
» The black chain link fence from from 80,
you know, 80 ft away almost disappears.

546
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,360
» Yeah.
>> Um so with the with the green of the

547
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,880
emerald green, I'd say green.
>> green today.

548
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,880
» It's green, yeah.
>> Yeah, makes sense. Yeah.

549
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,800
» And you say you submitted a test data on
that material?

550
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,400
» This is, yeah.
>> as far as the attenuation

551
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:19,080
» So yeah, this is um
a sound study

552
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:22,920
um showing the existing uh
property

553
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:26,800
and uh and the surrounding homes.
Um

554
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:30,040
Again, this is This is fresh.
Uh

555
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:35,200
they have decibel levels um
from from the court. Um

556
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,960
The closest neighboring property is at
31 decibels.

557
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:42,120
Um
And then as you get further away, of

558
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:46,000
course, the decibel levels uh
is decreased.

559
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:50,240
» How does 31 decibels compare to say kids
frolicking in a pool?

560
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:53,240
» I'm Elliot Seenar, the engineer. Um
conversation is around 60.

561
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,040
» What?
>> Conversation is around 60

562
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,360
» is lower than
>> F is much

563
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:04,600
» Okay.
>> And every I think it's um every 3

564
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:07,040
decibels sounds half as loud.
Don't quote me on that, but I think

565
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,400
that's correct.
>> Well, well, give me something else to

566
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:14,680
reference like uh you know
uh kids playing basketball and you know,

567
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:17,000
what what would that be at?
>> That would be much higher.

568
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,280
» Yeah,
it's it's not so much the conversation

569
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,240
of the thing, it's the bouncing of the
ball.

570
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,320
» right.
>> Is the loud part of it.

571
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,880
And um
he actually uh I showed the video at

572
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,040
this point.
>> It's a logarithmic.

573
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,920
» So So he actually has a
>> Uh it's not linear.

574
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,720
» a video of the
uh material on a fence uh with people

575
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:41,800
playing
uh behind it.

576
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:49,640
» So just for information, I mean a Google
search of tennis was 45 to 60 where

577
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:53,560
basketball is 90 to 115.
Roughly. That's just a Google search, so

578
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,800
it's not certified, but
>> Understood. So I imagine like music

579
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,120
playing in a backyard when people are
entertaining is even louder than that

580
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:04,120
for instance, right?
>> So this this is a very normal

581
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,120
neighborhood activity.

582
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,880
which shows

583
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:15,480
pickleball being played and you hear the
noise reduction once they get behind the

584
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:19,240
screening.
>> Normal conversation is a 60 to 70

585
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,040
decibel.
>> Wow.

586
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:26,600
» So if you notice in the video and it's
not the particular site, but it's them

587
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,840
playing basketball. Once you go behind
the screen, you don't hear the you don't

588
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,600
hear the ball anymore. You hear the
conversation still, but you don't hear

589
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,240
the ball
uh in the

590
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,240
in the back court.

591
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:45,840
» And that's right behind the the screen.
>> Yes.

592
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:50,680
» So the the
Right. So the the nearest property is

593
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,640
how far away?
>> The nearest the the closest neighboring

594
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:59,400
property to the structure from the
tennis court is probably

595
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,080
35 40 ft.
>> But the the property line is only 10 10

596
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,400
ft off the fence.
>> No, it's closer than that.

597
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,000
» That's our property.
>> Right.

598
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:12,440
» I'm I'm talking about the neighbor from
the left left side.

599
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,200
» Yeah,
well yeah, well yeah, well

600
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,200
» It's only 10 or 15 ft. 15.
>> Yeah.

601
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,120
» 15 ft.
>> Oh, his that's his

602
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,600
» That's the property line.
>> Hey, Chris.

603
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:32,120
On the left side of the property, where
the court is, from the property line to

604
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,400
the left neighbor, approximately to the
structure.

605
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:39,440
» 20 20
>> From the property line. So, from the

606
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:43,080
tennis fence, about 30 35 ft roughly.
>> ft from the property line to the court.

607
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:46,880
» So, you're looking at about 35 ft
roughly. So, roughly 35 ft. Okay.

608
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:52,280
» yeah.
I mean, it looks like his short side is

609
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:57,560
on the left garage. So, if he has 15, he
should have 25 on the other.

610
00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:04,080
» Currently, if you're on Dorchester, you
can see the house the house on the left,

611
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:08,920
you can see the houses uh um
on Country Ridge.

612
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:12,000
» From our prop- from the right angle
>> if you if you're on Dorchester

613
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:16,120
» Can't see through it because
>> Yes, I was there today. You can.

614
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:19,360
You don't you don't see the full house,
but you see glimpses the backs of their

615
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,960
houses, yes.
>> Walking horse?

616
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,120
» Uh um
No. The the

617
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:29,680
Wherever the backs are of these houses,
you can see at least two houses.

618
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:36,200
» Yeah, I'll go back to that.
>> Not totally, but you can see

619
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,200
probably half the house.

620
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:46,320
And I'm assuming if you're putting the
trees in, that is going to

621
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:50,640
close that in.
>> That's the rear.

622
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:54,160
» Well, it's doesn't look exactly like
that if you're on Dorchester now.

623
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:58,480
» I know that cuz I've been there back
back there looking

624
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,640
uh south.
I could probably see Mr. Feldman's

625
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,400
» Looking Looking towards
uh if you're parallel they are parallel

626
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,400
with Dorchester.
>> In that image, where are you standing on

627
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:13,080
the property in that image?
>> Right there I am at the where where the

628
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,480
back where the back of the house was.
>> So you're basically in the middle of the

629
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:19,440
property in that image looking towards
that the back of the houses on Country

630
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,280
Ridge.
>> Looking at the rear

631
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:26,720
» So from there to the road is probably
what another 50 ft maybe 65 ft?

632
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,400
» Uh probably yeah.
>> Roughly.

633
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,800
» Okay.
>> Yeah. I think right now pretty where

634
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:37,880
that picture is is where the tennis
court ends.

635
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,880
Closest to the street.

636
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,760
» Any other comments by the board?
>> No. Okay.

637
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:53,400
» Okay. Members of
>> You know the neighboring property um

638
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:57,680
with the arbor vitae's there.
That that is standing about 10 ft tall.

639
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,800
» And you can see the bit of the house in
the back there.

640
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,800
» Right.

641
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:07,280
» I I actually do have another question. I
noticed there was a neighbor uh letter

642
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:10,480
from a neighbor regarding pickleball as
a concern. Um

643
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:15,520
» Right.
>> Are there any activities besides tennis

644
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:21,360
and basketball that you expect to
generate volume on this?

645
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:24,080
» From my understanding it's uh full full
use. Uh

646
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:32,480
Tennis, basketball, pickleball, but the
primary use is tennis because

647
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:37,080
we could save a lot of money by just
doing a pickleball court and that's not

648
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:41,600
the objective. We're really looking for
tennis play and basketball.

649
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,240
But there is there is uh
>> Well, pickleball is is louder.

650
00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:47,200
» Correct.
>> From what I gather, right? So

651
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:51,600
» I mean any
any research I'm doing I'm researching

652
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:56,000
as if I'm doing pickleball because
assuming that it gets played,

653
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,880
that yeah, we want to be able to cover
all all the bases.

654
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,680
» Right, so that should be your your
decimal levels that you're quoting

655
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,680
should be for pickleball, for instance,
not necessarily for

656
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,120
» Right. That that would be the loudest
use.

657
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:12,600
» I believe the study is based on
pickleball, because again, I wanted the

658
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:16,440
extreme
to cover

659
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,400
uh the neighbors.
>> Okay.

660
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:25,160
So, um
well, well, you've submitted everything

661
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:29,720
that you need to submit. Um
for the moment, I think uh our

662
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:33,800
professionals will take a look at it.
And they'll, you know, they'll hopefully

663
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:38,560
be a dialogue between you and them if
they if they have uh questions or

664
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:43,360
recommendations.
Uh because the issue is sound and sound

665
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:50,240
attenuation. And so,
um you know, whatever,

666
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:54,120
you know, can be done to mitigate that
potential issue

667
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:58,640
would be uh welcome.
Now, as far as as the the public hearing

668
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:05,720
today is concerned,
I'm I'm happy to entertain comments.

669
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:14,080
Uh it it may be more fruitful to wait
until next month when the final

670
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:18,360
plans are actually submitted and on our
website that you can take a look at.

671
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,880
Um
but I I'll leave that, you know, up to

672
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,880
you.
Uh does anyone want to speak to this

673
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,920
application?
Uh yes, sir, with the hand up.

674
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:34,080
» Yeah, I think uh it would be a good
idea. Yes, let let uh them

675
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:37,920
have their due to speak. This way, if
there's any other concerns that we you

676
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:43,440
know, we're not uh
>> Uh sir, um identify yourself and and uh

677
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:49,480
your
your residential location.

678
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:53,160
» My name is Philip Schiller and I reside
at 84 Country Ridge Drive.

679
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:58,640
Uh
I'm against having a tennis court on 23

680
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:02,640
Dorchester as well as the combining of
the properties because it is out of

681
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,720
character with the rest of the
neighborhood

682
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:11,480
and would set a dangerous precedent. And
I have three main points that I would

683
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:17,800
like to go over with the board.
In my opinion, the property is too small

684
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:22,600
to have a 4,200 square-foot house,
a pool,

685
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:30,440
a pool house, and a tennis court on less
than 1 acre of land.

686
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:35,800
The combined size of both lots.
I also learned last week's at last

687
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:41,840
week's uh zoning board meeting
that 10 ft of the setback is to be used

688
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:48,400
in order to accommodate everything. So,
instead of there being a distance of 5

689
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:53,640
ft from the house behind 23 Dorchester,
there is now 15,

690
00:52:50,600 --> 00:53:00,160
resulting in 10 ft less of the setback
in front of the house.

691
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:04,800
I don't know how this is even possible.
The other point I have is that some

692
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:09,160
neighbor some neighbors at last week's
zoning board meeting expressed some

693
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:13,040
concerns.
If you read between the lines, what

694
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,800
they're really saying
is that they are concerned that the

695
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:20,880
current plans will have a negative
effect on their property values.

696
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:27,440
Something that might sour the
relationship with the neighbors.

697
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:33,800
And last, if the project is completed,
my estimate of the value of the property

698
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:37,720
is approximately between 5.5 and 6
million dollars.

699
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:42,880
The current value of the house and pool
plus the cost of the land on 23

700
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:48,000
Dorchester plus all of the demolition
and construction costs of the pool

701
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:52,000
house, tennis court, landscaping, and
drainage.

702
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:56,440
A very tough sell
in a neighborhood that barely hits 2

703
00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:03,760
million.
In conclusion, what I would like to see

704
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:07,400
on 23 Dorchester is another house.
Thank you for your time.

705
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:11,480
» Thank you, sir.
Any Would anyone else? Yes, sir.

706
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:25,400
» Hello, my name is Richard Shapiro.
Together with my wife, Rhoda,

707
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:31,040
we live and have lived for almost 48
years at 120 Country Ridge Drive, which

708
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:36,080
indeed is the property immediately
behind the proposed

709
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:40,280
tennis court, basketball court.
Um

710
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:45,760
If this project
it um is indeed to be approved as has

711
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:50,440
been
referenced in just a few moments ago,

712
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:55,760
what about pickleball?
Our big concern in the world of

713
00:54:53,720 --> 00:55:00,720
noise mitigation
is the additional

714
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:06,120
sound that pickleball represents. And
indeed, it has been concurred in the

715
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:11,000
conversation this evening that of the
various

716
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:16,720
levels of noise that may come from this
project, the one that is the greatest

717
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:22,600
would be indeed pickleball.
And as I said,

718
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:26,600
it has been stated in the conversation
that yes, the principal intention is for

719
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:33,680
tennis
and for basketball, but yes,

720
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:38,400
this project will be constructed to
accommodate pickleball. So, we should

721
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:44,960
assume, even if it isn't the primary
usage, that it will be available

722
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:47,800
for use for pickleball.
It is our view

723
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:51,960
based on
our understanding of the noise level of

724
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:57,280
pickleball and everyone who we have
talked to, who we have said, "Well, we

725
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:00,040
may have a pickleball court behind us."
Uh they said, "Oh my gosh, the noise

726
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:04,960
from that."
Um

727
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:10,960
we believe that any resolution regarding
this property should have as a condition

728
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:16,600
that there would not be pickleball
allowed on this property

729
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:21,280
um as part of the approval process.
Um

730
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:25,280
the the nature of the ball,
the racket,

731
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:29,520
the hard court that we're talking about,
the rapidity of the back and forth that

732
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:35,520
is
clearly part of pickleball,

733
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:40,080
in our view, makes the sound level, even
with noise mitigation, and we look

734
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:45,320
forward to seeing the material that is
put together and presented to this

735
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:50,840
board, um will simply be an unreasonable
level of noise concern for a

736
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:55,560
neighborhood that is as tight as this.
We're not talking about you We've been

737
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:59,200
shown some pictures involving Lincoln
Avenue. Country Ridge is not Lincoln

738
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:05,080
Avenue.
Country Ridge and the property in

739
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:10,000
question is simply is is not Pine Ridge
Park. These These are tight residential

740
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:15,400
lots.
This lot is proposed to be a little bit

741
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:20,280
under an acre. That will be large for
Country Ridge, and we're talking about

742
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:24,760
putting all of this stuff into a very,
very small area. And as I said before,

743
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:30,440
the
back of the tennis court between the

744
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:36,280
proposed fence, and we approved that at
the higher fence, clearly,

745
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:41,320
uh to our property line is all of 15 ft.
Not a lot of space.

746
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:44,480
That's um
what we'd like to impart to the board

747
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,880
this evening. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

748
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:50,680
» Thank you, sir.
Anybody else?

749
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,680
Yes, ma'am.

750
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,760
» This I'm Nancy Schiller. I live at 84
Country View Drive.

751
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:06,920
And I'll bring up whatever wasn't
brought up before. Um they mentioned

752
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,480
last week about the fencing.
And they were originally going to have 5

753
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:13,680
ft
along the side by the house. And then

754
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:17,160
they're going to have 18 and 18, but
they're still going to have 5 ft.

755
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:21,560
So, there's a big distance where there's
5 ft and not everybody plays tennis

756
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:25,880
well. Ball can still go over, go out
into the street, hit me, hit dogs,

757
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:29,000
hit cars.
So, I don't see why it can't be 10 ft

758
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:33,120
entirely.
But, regardless, you can't Nobody's

759
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:37,120
going to be happy because
you need at least 10 ft behind for the

760
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:40,520
house behind you. And the people that
live right across the street said they

761
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:44,200
don't want 10 ft because that's all
they're going to see from their house.

762
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,880
So, it was an eyesore.
Um

763
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:54,760
is also if you put if you don't put a
house, you can have less property taxes

764
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:58,760
versus the tennis court.
And

765
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,760
um

766
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:05,560
I agree there should be no pickleball,
but even so, even if you agree to that,

767
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,920
what about the next owner?
They could play pickleball.

768
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:12,200
And who's to stop them?
And for Originally, it was just supposed

769
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:15,520
to be a tennis court. Now, there's going
to be basketball, which is louder, and

770
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:20,560
then possibly pickleball, which is even
louder. And people that are living in

771
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,280
like um
you know, gated communities with

772
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,800
pickleball, they're going crazy. And it
doesn't have to be It could be so far

773
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:30,120
away, and they still hear it. It doesn't
belong here. The properties on Lincoln

774
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:34,560
Avenue and the show and the ones that
have tennis courts are two and three

775
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:40,200
acres, not less than an acre.
Um, and to me, when we were at the uh

776
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:44,000
the zoning board meeting, we all had
concerns and we were told before the

777
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:48,440
meeting we were talking to the um the
chairman

778
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:52,800
that there's five five uh
circumstances that you have to meet,

779
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:57,320
none of which it doesn't matter if the
neighbors disapprove. So, why is there a

780
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:02,240
public meeting if they don't care what
the neighbors have to say?

781
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,240
I'm hoping it's different here.

782
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,560
» It should be.
>> Good.

783
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:10,840
» And I think and I think the zoning board
also takes, you know, you know,

784
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,200
» Well, they got letters, but they said
they would we would

785
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:17,200
it doesn't matter. It's it do they do
they meet the five criteria? If so, it

786
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:21,200
doesn't matter.
>> Well, I'll let the zoning board respond

787
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:26,360
to you, but I can only speak for the
planning board, but uh I find and I

788
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:32,240
think my colleagues would agree that
public hearings are very important to

789
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:37,200
take the temperature of a project.
And um

790
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:40,280
and it does impact upon our view of a
project.

791
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:46,280
Uh I think all of these comments have
been very reasonable

792
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:49,520
and and and uh and analytical and we'll
have to

793
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:53,720
you know, we we we can't do anything but
take them into consideration. So, we

794
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:58,880
really appreciate your comments
and uh and your input because it it will

795
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,680
definitely inform our decision.
>> Okay.

796
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:05,520
That's all I have to say.
>> Thank you for your participation.

797
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,920
Anybody else?
Yes, ma'am.

798
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:19,720
» Hi, my name is Ellen Harmon. I'm at 16
Hillandale Road. I'm not an adjacent

799
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:23,560
neighbor. I really have a question more
than anything else, although my heart

800
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:28,000
goes out to the adjacent neighbors whose
peace and tranquility of years and years

801
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:33,600
is about to be destroyed.
Um and never to be turned back. Uh it's

802
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:39,480
I think it's egregious. But, my question
is Chris referred to a tennis court or

803
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:43,960
tennis courts, I'm not sure which, on
Lincoln Ave. And I'm wondering, because

804
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:48,400
I'm sure that one of your guiding
criteria are character of the

805
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:52,840
neighborhood, is it out of character?
I've lived here for 43 years. I don't

806
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:56,920
know of any courts in Rye Brook. I
really don't. So, I was wondering if you

807
01:01:54,880 --> 01:02:01,440
had a take on how many tennis courts
there are in Rye Brook.

808
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:05,520
And where they're located, because this
seems to me to be completely out of

809
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:09,360
character with the neighborhood.
That's all I wanted to know.

810
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,360
» Thank you.

811
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,160
» Uh
well, I only know of

812
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:19,960
three. One is, of course, the public
park on Pine Ridge. Uh but, both tennis

813
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:24,720
courts that I know of are both on
Lincoln within 1,000 ft of each other.

814
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:29,360
And, of course, the
it's hard to get a tennis court on a

815
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:33,880
15,000 sq ft lot. Um but, in a case like
this, where we have

816
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:37,880
uh just again, just shy of an acre
we're able to accommodate one within the

817
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:41,800
zoning laws. So,
to answer your question, yes. I only

818
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:46,360
know of two. I There's some There's a
bunch of sports courts here and there,

819
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:49,720
but full full-blown tennis court, I only
know of those two.

820
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:54,080
» Okay.
Any other comments?

821
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,080
Yes, sir.

822
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:06,600
» Jim Beldesman, 37 Rocking Horse Trail.
Uh

823
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:11,160
two houses away.
>> Speak up.

824
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:15,440
» That's not usually my problem.
Uh

825
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:22,240
it'll be what it'll be. My biggest
concern still is, even though I heard

826
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:26,640
that the drainage has been uh satisfied
or will be satisfied.

827
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:31,320
Um but I actually took the time this
afternoon to look at the site plan on

828
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:36,200
the village website.
Not that I understood it

829
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:40,160
cuz I'm far from being an
an architect uh

830
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:46,800
or anything along that line. There was
one

831
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:46,800
um point where it talks about Chris a um

832
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:56,200
prop- aco drain
if you look at the foot of the driveway.

833
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,400
Could you explain that? I I have no idea
what that means.

834
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,760
» Okay.
So, my engineer could

835
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:04,400
» Well, one of the two of you. I'll accept
any one of them.

836
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,040
» Did you want me to answer?
>> Yeah. Yeah, come up to the microphone

837
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,560
and if you have a res- if you have a
response

838
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:17,960
» They can't answer it.
>> If you have a response, sure.

839
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:21,640
» Um the An aco drain is a um
also known as a zipper drain or a trench

840
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:26,040
drain at the bottom of the driveway. It
covers the full width. The aco is the

841
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:31,400
name brand of the particular one that uh
we show on our detail sheet.

842
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:37,120
» So, that is going to be inserted
as to what they formally had, which we

843
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:42,440
spoke about before the meeting and they
actually told me how bad it was

844
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:46,400
which I had no clue. Um so, you're going
to be adding a drain there. That's one.

845
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,560
» Oh, yes.
>> concern everybody is the

846
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,360
» up to the come up to the microphone so
you can

847
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,760
» everything flows down.
>> Okay.

848
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:58,280
Um so, where where um
our system is designed for all the

849
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:03,600
improvements on the property, the
existing house, the driveway, the

850
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:07,440
um the pool and the pool patios, etc.,
as well as the tennis court. So, yes,

851
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:12,320
we're adding a um a zipper drain, a
trench drain across the front of the

852
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:18,280
driveway that is being directed to um
culverts or dry well system Uh just

853
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:21,600
behind the proposed sport court.
Um and that's going to take all the

854
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:24,720
water, all the all the additional runoff
as required by the code.

855
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:30,280
» Yeah.
>> Sports is going to be over here. The

856
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:33,840
drain is over here.
How are they at the that

857
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,600
Sorry.
What do you turn this on?

858
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:44,440
» Pipes.
Pipes.

859
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:48,640
» Pipes. No, I
But that's but he has it going the other

860
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:52,880
way. So
it's supposed to come down.

861
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,880
» Pumps.
>> Believe me, I know about pipes. I have

862
01:05:54,720 --> 01:06:01,320
one going across my property.
>> So what he's asking is are you going to

863
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:05,000
have a a pump system
to push it up the elevation cuz there is

864
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:08,080
a change of elevation
in that location.

865
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,760
» No, there's no pump there's no pump
required.

866
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:16,520
So um
I brought a hard copy because I can't

867
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:23,640
see the screen.
Um so the the trench drain in the

868
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:29,000
driveway is at an elevation of 223.8
and the invert the pipe the bottom of

869
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:32,240
the pipe is at 222.8 about a foot deep.
And it's directing the water across the

870
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:37,200
um
across the dri- across the property here

871
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:42,000
this pipe going from the from the trench
drain that just here at the driveway

872
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:46,720
across this way to the cultec.
Uh the cultec the bottom elevation is

873
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:52,080
219.5.
So 219.5 to 222.8

874
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:55,520
or 223
is about um 4 ft lower.

875
01:06:54,640 --> 01:07:01,600
» Yep.
>> Right? 4 ft lower. So there's a 4 ft

876
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:04,760
slope from the trench drain to the
bottom of the cultec. The cultec are

877
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:09,840
about 3 ft high.
Uh the invert uh that we show at this

878
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:14,960
point here where it enters
is 221.15.

879
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:18,240
Uh so the pipe is at a 1 and 1/2%. So
that's a little less than a quarter per

880
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:22,400
foot.
Um so it's sloping to that direction.

881
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:26,240
» It it the project improvements will
definitely improve the water runoff.

882
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:29,680
» Okay.
>> That's one way it will might be and I I

883
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,320
always look at that.
>> I I

884
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:35,280
and I appreciate
>> Cuz I have a problem on

885
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:38,080
on my own property, yes.
>> And I really don't want to be calling uh

886
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,240
snow way
to uh

887
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:43,400
» No, I don't think I don't think Mike
wants any more calls on even

888
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,520
It's not what he told me.
>> Uh there's nothing to do with much, but

889
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:50,920
it's I
stone curbs uh replacement to newer

890
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:54,560
replacements.
Is that Yeah, is that

891
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:58,680
what
Again, that's going to affect the water?

892
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:07,200
I it was on the site plan that talked
about the water.

893
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:13,000
» I mean there is a stone curb there now.
I think in the area where there was a

894
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:16,759
driveway curb cut, we're going to
replace that at a standard height curb.

895
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,520
» Close up to the right thing.
>> Is that going to be asphalt or is that

896
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:23,920
going to be uh Belgium block?
>> stone curb This part of the existing

897
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,560
curbing
>> Makes sense.

898
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:34,520
» And I promised you I would say it.
You really going to put a flag pole by

899
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,520
the house?

900
01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:40,920
You can answer.
>> Yeah, I I mean I answer I I appreciate

901
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:44,400
it. At least I appreciate it.
I know. No, thank you. It's uh

902
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:48,880
appreciate everybody's comments. Jason
Ryan, 19 Dorchester.

903
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:52,400
Uh it is in the plans for us to put a a
flag pole. We

904
01:08:50,759 --> 01:08:57,520
um we love this country, love America,
and the goal is to have a flag pole with

905
01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:57,520
American flag in our property.

906
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,799
Yeah, yeah.
>> Okay. Um

907
01:09:01,799 --> 01:09:06,200
» Thank you.
>> Thank you so much.

908
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:11,680
What we'll do is we're going to continue
the public hearing next month.

909
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:18,040
By that time there should be additional
information plans up to be reviewed. And

910
01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:21,200
I think that there are certain reports
and other studies that will also be

911
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:25,920
reviewed by our professionals so we'll
have some feedback on that.

912
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:30,720
So
on that score

913
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:35,400
we'll adjourn till next month.
And

914
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:39,080
and hopefully we will
have additional input from the public

915
01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:41,400
and you'll give us additional input as
well.

916
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,880
Okay. Thank you all.

917
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:56,520
Okay. Our
Our final matter is

918
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:30,160
We have We have another application
coming up. If you have If you have some

919
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:35,240
comments, we'll take them next week.
You know what you can do, you can always

920
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:38,120
send a letter.
If you have If you have additional

921
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:43,400
comments
beyond what you've done,

922
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,400
send send a letter to Michael.

923
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:55,920
Okay.
You We're the only two

924
01:10:51,760 --> 01:11:00,720
left in our area in the wintertime.
And so enjoy

925
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,680
something.
>> Yeah.

926
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:05,880
Yeah. Yeah.
>> 10th 10th September

927
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:10,120
I think it's the
>> 14th of September 14th of September

928
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,040
» September 10th
>> 10th

929
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:13,160
» All right.
>> It happens.

930
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,360
» All right.
We have another We have another

931
01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:18,240
application.
>> Please.

932
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:23,800
» So, thank you.
We'll see you next month.

933
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,800
» All right.

934
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:28,480
» Okay, the Anderson Hill Road project.

935
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,000
» Spin Anthony

936
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,360
How are you?
>> Ready?

937
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,480
» Okay. Um
>> Any pickleball?

938
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,240
» No.
>> Yes, we do have pickleball.

939
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,680
» Do pickleball.
>> have pickleball.

940
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,840
» Yeah. Uh
>> I know you have bocce, but uh yeah.

941
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,800
» What?
Uh okay. What we'll do is is let's have

942
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:57,880
a presentation
and then let's talk about the DEIS

943
01:11:55,320 --> 01:12:01,920
because I think that's our principal
task here is to go through

944
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:06,280
your uh
sort of the

945
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:11,440
the framework for that document and
discuss it, see if there any additional

946
01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:16,360
comments the board may have. I think you
are going to be before the Board of

947
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:20,080
Trustees what next month on this?
>> 8th is.

948
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:24,800
» So, this is basically just a discussion.
We have time to uh I think put our

949
01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:29,160
comments together if we have any.
Um but you know, now you're here.

950
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:32,920
So,
give us your pitch.

951
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:36,560
» Okay, my name's Tony Veneziano. I'm here
on behalf of Erickson.

952
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:42,040
And we have our full team here tonight.
Now, may be for you a very simple matter

953
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:46,160
to comment on the scope.
But for us, it's a big deal. It's really

954
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:48,040
one of our our first full presentations.
>> Of course.

955
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:54,200
» So,
we submitted our petition on June 11th

956
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:59,240
to the Village Board. And on June 25th,
they adopted a resolution saying they

957
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:04,320
intend to be lead agency. On June 25th,
we submitted a letter and on July 28th,

958
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:08,840
they confirmed their lead agency,
adopted a positive declaration, and set

959
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:12,320
the scope for the 8th. So, we thought it
would be a good idea to come here so

960
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:16,960
that you had the information you need
cuz we I don't know what you all each

961
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:21,160
one of you know. So, we want to make
sure you have enough information to

962
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:24,600
actually comment at the village board
meeting on the 8th or you'll have 10

963
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:29,920
days for written comments if they should
close that hearing. We submitted a

964
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:31,960
38-page a 38-page scoping outline. So,
we think we've hit most of the issues,

965
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,440
but
>> I read it.

966
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:37,680
» Was it good?
>> It's It's long.

967
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:42,120
» It's telling us what you're going to do.
>> It's chock-full.

968
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,120
What?

969
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:47,360
» It's telling us what you're going to do.
So,

970
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:51,320
it's spelled out very well.
>> You ready to vote? What do we

971
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,760
» No, no. I mean, you gave us the
questions. Now, we're waiting for the

972
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:59,880
answers.
>> Yeah, well, we're drafting the answers.

973
01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:02,040
If we can cajole AKRF to
move along here.

974
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,920
Um
>> What I did learn from reading this

975
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:09,720
28-page document, you finally have the
number

976
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,720
of the units.

977
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,360
» Yeah.
>> 870 is what? Some

978
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,480
» 834.
>> 834.

979
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,280
» Do you want to go? You want to do this?
>> No, I I don't know what's going on here

980
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,040
right now.
>> Yeah, no. So, that's I got to get

981
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:23,280
everybody up to the baseline.
>> Okay.

982
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:28,080
» So, Erickson Living Properties LLC
closed on the on the property last week.

983
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:34,040
Okay. So, they went into contract in the
fall. It was an unconditional contract,

984
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:39,960
and we did a lot of work,
planning work, site work, soils work,

985
01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:42,960
work with neighbors to get where where
we were where they were comfortable to

986
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:48,040
close.
The petition requests

987
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:54,160
basically a new PUD, 975 Anderson Hill
Road. It is just the density, the

988
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:58,120
height, the FAR, etc.
There's a new use a continuum of care

989
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:01,760
retirement community which is in the
zoning.

990
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:06,480
The concept plan has 750 independent
units and 84 assisted living units, 834

991
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:12,640
units.
This density is below what other PUDs in

992
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:17,000
the village have have
on the books. For For example, 900 King

993
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:21,320
Street.
Now, the abutters that we Oh, we have

994
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:25,800
the right map up. Good job, Peter.
So, across So, north is at the top of

995
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:30,640
the screen. To the south is the Blind
Brook Country Club. It's 650 ft away

996
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:35,120
from our front buildings.
To the east is Doral Greens, which is

997
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:41,040
350 ft away.
And to the north is Kingsfield, which is

998
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:46,200
425 ft away at the closest point. And to
the left is a forest SUNY purchase where

999
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:49,000
the kids go. Um
Now, when we first started planning

1000
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:54,480
this, I'm just going to take a few
minutes. It's a I'm at 50,000 ft. When

1001
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:59,680
we first started this, we we had a title
impediment. Right? We had as part of the

1002
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:05,360
prior approvals, we had an agreement
restricting what we could do on the golf

1003
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:08,720
range, which was the southwestern
quadrant of the site, where we could

1004
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:13,160
only do office.
Which is why the Cohen proposal when it

1005
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:17,320
came into the village had medical office
there because they didn't quite have

1006
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:21,040
that resolved. So, we went to the Doral
Greens in the fall and we worked with

1007
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:25,040
them for months.
Um and they we have an agreement with

1008
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:29,880
them. We met with them today. And they
fully support the project at this point.

1009
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:33,440
We originally had a an a landscape berm
along our common property line. They

1010
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:38,040
said you could take it down.
Interestingly, they never had a concern

1011
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:42,560
regarding conflicting traffic patterns.
And they never really had a concern as

1012
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:46,120
as as we stayed a little bit away with
what would be on that site and this use

1013
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:49,880
it's like where they're going to go. I
mean, within the first two or three

1014
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:55,000
meetings they
they sort of like the Erickson and they

1015
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:59,760
sort of see it as their next place and
it's right next door and their their

1016
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:03,080
people were trying to bring them right
along. So,

1017
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:08,000
we have that in place. They're going to
submit a letter and they'll come to

1018
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:14,360
hearings.
The as of right plan under PUD is 490

1019
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:19,480
senior living units. We're above that.
Our original plan was 1,034 units and we

1020
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:23,160
did that because when you look at the
prior use of the property, the Arrowwood

1021
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:28,200
Conference Center, the Arrowwood
Conference Center,

1022
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:31,360
that generated a number of impacts
that

1023
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:34,440
Let me just see where that
that piece is.

1024
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:46,960
Doral Doral generated 287 vehicle trips
in the AM peak and 355 in the PM peak.

1025
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:53,680
We generate 233 as opposed to 287 and
175 as opposed to 355.

1026
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:58,280
This The average entry age to this site
is 80.

1027
01:17:55,400 --> 01:18:02,520
The average occupant age is 85.
So, the traffic numbers are really

1028
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:05,920
employee numbers.
The people that come to give the

1029
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:09,920
services and you're going to hear from
Maryann Navarro who's going to from

1030
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:13,360
Erickson tonight about all the services
they provide for their people.

1031
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,600
Um
900 King Street, which I mentioned

1032
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:21,240
before,
really set the highest bar for the PUD,

1033
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:26,560
which Peter and I both worked on. So,
the PUD has 900 9,000 square feet or six

1034
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:31,640
units you can have per acre.
King Street has 19,175

1035
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:35,960
square feet
and 12.3 units per acre. We're under

1036
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:40,000
both of those, but I just want you to
know that we looked at the impacts. This

1037
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:43,120
site, if you look at the surrounding
properties,

1038
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:47,000
and you assume that everyone supports
this, there's very little opposition in

1039
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:51,640
this area. There's There's very little
traffic that can't be handled by And

1040
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:55,160
this part of town. Um
And the visual impacts will You saw in

1041
01:18:53,400 --> 01:19:00,960
the in the document we'll have a full
view visual impact study. And our taxes

1042
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:04,600
are projected to be right now 8.1
million to you at full build out.

1043
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,160
So, when we were working and there's two
members of the of the village board are

1044
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:16,080
here.
They're here to monitor me.

1045
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:19,880
It's specific.
So,

1046
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:23,360
we we were at the point where we were
looking at the code and there's there's

1047
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:28,520
sort of a conflict. There's this 10%
affordable housing.

1048
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:32,920
So, Erickson supports of the concept of
putting the affordable housing. And we

1049
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:38,680
placed it in the
southwestern, right off the entry drive.

1050
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:42,920
We had a separate building.
And we would We met a few times with the

1051
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,200
village board and they sort of didn't
like that.

1052
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:48,720
» Right.
>> It was segregated.

1053
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:53,000
» So, I don't think they liked it.
>> They didn't like it enough that they

1054
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:59,040
persuaded us to think very hard about
how we could accommodate this affordable

1055
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:04,480
component. Now, you're going to hear
tonight about the fact that to enter

1056
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:08,240
into an Erickson community,
and they're a national company, Mary Ann

1057
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:12,600
will tell you about that. You have an
entry fee, which is substantially

1058
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:18,480
refunded upon your last act on the
planet or if you leave, you get 80-90%

1059
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:23,760
of it back. And there's services There's
a service uh number.

1060
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:27,600
They have a lifetime commitment. Once
you're in an Erickson community, they

1061
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:31,840
can't kick you out.
So, they do it They're sort of do the

1062
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:36,160
economic due diligence at the beginning.
And then they let you in but if for some

1063
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:40,120
reason you have to go into this this is
they have to bear that and lose that.

1064
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:45,560
So, we ended up
committing to 5% affordable units, same

1065
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:49,400
size. We have two sizes but same size as
the other units. A lot of people put

1066
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:52,080
affordable housing at a discounted they
discount the size of the units.

1067
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:56,320
Um
and that was all sort of generally

1068
01:20:54,480 --> 01:21:00,600
thought to be
a peaceful place to end up. Now, I will

1069
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:06,160
say cuz they're here but the village
board said that they still want to

1070
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:09,520
review the overall density and we said
fine. So, that's a fair butter fight.

1071
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:13,840
We'll bring our butter knives and we'll
we'll figure that out. Um

1072
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:17,960
we also
Peter Furrow and I sort of came up with

1073
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:21,640
this way to look at this analytical
model which was

1074
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:30,040
for every 50 units you deduct the cuz
there's no reason

1075
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:33,240
to limit the number just because a few
is like a high number.

1076
01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:39,160
One of the village board members at one
at the first meeting

1077
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:42,600
when we had 1,034 units said that's 10%
of our community and we said okay,

1078
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:47,080
sorry.
So, and that that really resonated with

1079
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:51,840
with the client. So, we we addressed
that but for every 50 units you lose

1080
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:59,600
$490,000
a year in taxes and you lose 14 vehicle

1081
01:21:55,520 --> 01:22:04,000
trips against 233 total.
So, you have to look at how much is the

1082
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:09,520
benefit to you versus
what we get out of it because

1083
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:13,440
this is there's a risk there with the
affordable component. I've sort of said

1084
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:19,520
way too much about it but it's at the
heart of why we need this density in

1085
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,520
this project.

1086
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,440
Um

1087
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:31,560
Part of our due diligence, just I have a
few wrap-up points. Part of our due

1088
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:36,640
diligence led us to
water.

1089
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:42,280
It was a whole water find water, water
where are we going to get water? So, we

1090
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:47,360
went to Veolia and we work with them.
And Diego basically New York City sells

1091
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:51,400
water to Veolia.
It all worked out. We have a will serve

1092
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:56,520
letter and they've asked for a tank, a
storage tank.

1093
01:22:53,360 --> 01:23:00,640
Which we've contractually agreed to.
It's going to be at right now they're

1094
01:22:58,440 --> 01:23:04,560
looking for place to aerate with pumps
to pressurize it, but that's something

1095
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:10,120
that'll help a lot of people in that
portion of the village.

1096
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:14,920
Um, we also in the right off our entry
drive to the left here, oops, there's a

1097
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:18,640
marketing building that they built for
the or the facilities.

1098
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:22,000
And
I think it's just after the first phase,

1099
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:25,800
right Steve? You have to convert it. So,
after the first phase, which is right

1100
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:29,440
now 300 units, they'll take that and
convert it to a recreational building

1101
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:34,800
for the village.
We've spoken to the village board about

1102
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:39,040
what the village would want.
Um, God's

1103
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:42,720
They can't come up with two things in a
row. So,

1104
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:47,400
we're going to work with them and start
to work with them right now to help

1105
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:51,000
design something because we're going to
actually give it to you.

1106
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:53,920
Uh, we'll fix it up and give it to you
and you'll have to maintain it. So, we

1107
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:57,440
feel that there's a
a barrier towards, you know, too much

1108
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:59,960
because you're going to have to put the
money into maintain it, but it's going

1109
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:03,400
to be it's not even going to be age
restricted. It's going to be for the

1110
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:08,520
everyone right now. It could be whatever
you want, but for everyone in the

1111
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:13,520
village. We met with Doral Greens today.
I could say this, right Steve?

1112
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:17,720
And
they

1113
01:24:15,480 --> 01:24:23,160
They have like one bike for a gym. I
said, "You have a gym?"

1114
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:26,840
Oh, yeah, it's right around the corner.
There's like a bike in there and a place

1115
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:30,480
to do sit-ups.
So, we I told them, "Well, we're going

1116
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:34,480
to have a gym here for everyone in the
village."

1117
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:38,560
And they said that when Darrel uh
Arrowwood was originally put in, they

1118
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:41,920
had a gym, they had a pool, they had
tennis courts, they had a golf It was

1119
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:46,000
like their own private country club. So,
I told them that

1120
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,840
they could use this gym. And so, they're
going to they're going to start to

1121
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:53,560
participate in that design. They have a
meeting in early September.

1122
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,560
Um

1123
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,760
I think

1124
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,520
I think that's where we're going to
close this time.

1125
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:05,640
» I I I Can I just
>> to say something while

1126
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:09,960
» Only because I'm I'm going to forget if
I don't say it.

1127
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:15,120
In looking at the maps on on and the
material that was sent to us,

1128
01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:20,160
you have Harrison, you have Purchase,
you have Port Chester, and you have Rye.

1129
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:24,800
Did you mean Rye or was that supposed to
be Rye Brook?

1130
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:27,880
» Well, I don't know what you're
You know?

1131
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,800
» You're talking about the figure with the
map?

1132
01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:33,760
» Yeah, I am.
>> That was an earlier version that I

1133
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:39,160
didn't use exactly right.
>> So, you meant Rye Brook?

1134
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:41,200
And that's going to be changed. Okay.
>> Excuse me, sir. Can you identify

1135
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:45,000
yourself?
>> I'm Jason Metzer. I work as part of the

1136
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:47,800
project team. I'm with AKRF.
>> He's actually drafting.

1137
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:51,520
» Thank you.
>> Um

1138
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:54,880
And it's interesting because
Diego keeps trying to get me to meet

1139
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:58,720
with the city of Rye
because of the storm water issue.

1140
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,480
So,
I tell him we're going to have a zero

1141
01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:04,640
increase in storm water runoff, and why
do I need with Rye? But they'll be

1142
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:07,040
writing a letter saying, "Please don't
affect us downstream."

1143
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,480
» Which makes sense.
>> Ready to go?

1144
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,600
Should I move my mic?
>> Sure.

1145
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:19,080
» Everyone,
uh

1146
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:25,760
Peter Ferro with AKRF. So, we're the
project planners, uh, environmental

1147
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:28,680
engineers. Um, I'm going to start and
just give you kind of the more,

1148
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:34,360
um,
boring overview of the site, the

1149
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:39,240
project, and the very specific zoning
asks and site plan asks that we have

1150
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:44,160
just to kind of level set. So,
just as Tony mentioned, right, we're at

1151
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:46,880
975 Anderson Hill Road. It's about 83
acres in the Village of Rye Brook.

1152
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:52,040
Um,
portions of the property that Erickson

1153
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:57,480
owns are in the Town of Harrison and in
Greenwich, Connecticut. Those portions

1154
01:26:54,560 --> 01:27:03,800
of the site are not included in that 83
acres and there are no plans to improve

1155
01:27:00,440 --> 01:27:08,360
those pieces. So, all the development,
um, is on the formerly, um,

1156
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:12,760
improved site of the Arrowwood
Conference Center in Rye Brook.

1157
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:17,360
Um,
the site is currently zoned as a PUD.

1158
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:23,080
And obviously, you know, it was
developed with the Arrowwood Hotel

1159
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:27,480
Conference Center. So, 200, uh, 393 key
hotel, about 110,000 square foot

1160
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:31,480
conference center,
718

1161
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:36,720
parking spaces, a nine-hole golf course,
and as we all know, it closed in 2020.

1162
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:42,640
Since that time, the site has been
cleared, uh, down all the buildings have

1163
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:47,160
been removed down to the foundations.
The site still retains its access from

1164
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:52,360
Anderson Hill Road and we propose to
maintain that access. There is secondary

1165
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:57,000
access through Doral Greens from the
Arrowwood site to through Doral Greens

1166
01:27:55,280 --> 01:28:00,560
and from Doral Greens actually through
the Arrowwood site to Anderson Hill

1167
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:04,280
Road. So, there's several emergency
means of access.

1168
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:09,680
One of the things that's important to
note is is the topography on the site.

1169
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:14,640
Um, I don't know why I I've never I
don't play golf, so I never walked the

1170
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:19,000
site, um, before, but it there's a lot
more topography than I would have

1171
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:24,560
thought, and it slopes down from east to
west. Um, more than 80 ft. So, a

1172
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:28,720
significant amount of topography that
we're we're dealing with, and I want to

1173
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:32,840
just have that in the back of our minds
when we start talking about

1174
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:36,080
the proposed site plan.
So,

1175
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:39,280
in laying out the buildings and the
plan, Tony alluded to the fact that

1176
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:43,520
we've been at this for a while.
Erickson's been at this for a long time.

1177
01:28:41,440 --> 01:28:46,640
They are as Maryanne will tell you, they
have

1178
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:50,640
you know, over two dozen communities
throughout the country,

1179
01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:56,080
over 30,000 residents
in their communities, and they they plan

1180
01:28:53,400 --> 01:29:00,240
things out very well because they're not
a developer. They're an owner. They're a

1181
01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:04,240
manager. These are their communities.
They don't sell them. They want them to

1182
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:07,880
work. They know how to make them work,
and so they've been very thoughtful

1183
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:13,440
about laying these out. So, the goal
here is to situate um, lower height

1184
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:18,120
buildings closer to Doral Greens at the
higher portion of the site, closer to

1185
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:20,640
Anderson Hill Road, but still set way
back.

1186
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:27,040
And take advantage of that sloping
topography to go vertical a little bit.

1187
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:32,000
Vertical works really well with these
uh, with this use because it's all about

1188
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:35,680
limiting walking distance. Elevators are
wonderful, so vertical works really well

1189
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,880
here.
Um,

1190
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:46,920
So, the project as Tony mentioned, 834
units of a continuum of care retirement

1191
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:50,360
community or CCRC. It'll be split up
between

1192
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:53,480
what we'll think of as more independent
living units,

1193
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:58,320
one and two bedroom units varying in
size. They'll probably be

1194
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:02,880
eight different sizes or more.
Um, and then 84 assisted living memory

1195
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,400
care units.
>> Peter.

1196
01:30:03,480 --> 01:30:09,080
» Yes, sir.
>> The 834 units, they are spread over how

1197
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:11,320
many buildings? Of the Of the I can
count them but how many buildings off

1198
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:16,280
the top?
>> It's 12, I believe.

1199
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:20,040
I believe it's 12.
1 2 3

1200
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:25,080
Well, it's 12 total buildings, I'm
sorry. 10 residential

1201
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:29,040
11 residential buildings. Apologies.
>> You're splitting up the 84 into assisted

1202
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:32,800
and memory care because they're two
different things.

1203
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:37,360
» Correct. Correct. So, the 84 would be
split and that'll be split based on the

1204
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:41,960
need. They're they're different
regulations as you know for

1205
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:47,640
assisted living and memory care. And
once you start building that need, the

1206
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:51,120
licenses often go by floors. So, you
know, you've got to be careful about how

1207
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:56,960
much you put in and when and when your
license triggers. And what Erickson does

1208
01:30:53,880 --> 01:31:00,080
is they don't build all 834 units year
one.

1209
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:06,520
Right? You start with and let me just
tell you a little bit about how the um

1210
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:10,440
community lays out and I'll come back
here. Um so, the community, and this is

1211
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:14,920
going to answer your question, I
promise. The community's geared around a

1212
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:19,760
clubhouse, a
a community building. Um

1213
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:24,520
and all the residential buildings are
attached to that community building.

1214
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:29,560
And attached to each other through
enclosed conditioned hallways. And so,

1215
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:34,160
the the
those those community buildings serve as

1216
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:37,520
the hub. And so, this proposal would
have two community buildings. So, what

1217
01:31:36,440 --> 01:31:42,960
would happen is you'd start with
community building one, you'd build the

1218
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:46,680
first few residential buildings, and
then you'd bring more residential

1219
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:50,800
buildings online, build the second
community building, build more

1220
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:56,400
residential. And usually the assisted
living memory care comes at the end of

1221
01:31:53,480 --> 01:32:00,560
that because it's not it
it's for the residents that are there.

1222
01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:04,720
And so, as those first residents to in
need that higher level of care,

1223
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:09,040
they're able to have a full facility
dedicated to them. If a resident needs

1224
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:13,600
that level of care before that facility
is built, Erickson can provide it in

1225
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:17,760
that independent living unit. They can
still provide it and they will provide

1226
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:24,360
it.
>> The assisted living

1227
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:28,280
facility, it's kind of filled from your
uh residents. You don't take uh somebody

1228
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,800
directly into the
>> Generally speaking, yes.

1229
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,160
» I can answer.
>> Oh, sorry.

1230
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:36,120
» I'm sorry.
>> Yeah.

1231
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:38,240
» I can come up, Mary Ann, and
>> Hello.

1232
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:43,640
» Speak into our microphone.
>> Yes, that's right. Um Mary Ann Navarro

1233
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:48,800
with Erickson Senior Living. Um
we actually can welcome um

1234
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:52,880
members of the public, people from the
outside. I mean, I you know, I I think

1235
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:57,280
ideally, yes, it's for the residents, so
that it's available to them. We offer

1236
01:32:54,520 --> 01:33:02,200
that continuum of care, but um if there
is availability and space, then members

1237
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,680
uh from the larger community can can
join.

1238
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:11,960
» And so, when you look at this product,
and for those of you who had a chance to

1239
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:15,160
view um the the the Erickson community
in in Cedar Crest, New Jersey, you'll

1240
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:18,800
know, and for those who haven't had a
chance yet,

1241
01:33:16,440 --> 01:33:23,640
open invitation. We're happy to arrange
that. Um I think it actually it it made

1242
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:27,680
a big difference to me to see it. Um it
might for you as well. Um

1243
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:32,040
this is really a service-oriented
product. This is not a it people live

1244
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:36,560
there and it's their residence, but this
is a service-oriented product. And if

1245
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:40,680
you break it down by fee, actually, um
almost three quarters of the fees go

1246
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:45,800
toward services. We're talking dining,
health care, wellness, social,

1247
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:51,440
security, all sorts of things, and
that's really what separates this type

1248
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:55,920
of CCRC product from a senior living
just generic senior living project, or

1249
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:59,400
even other independent living products
that you might have um

1250
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:04,040
in the region.
>> And I I I think that that very

1251
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:07,880
term service-oriented
facility

1252
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:11,000
I think it's important when we talk
about the density.

1253
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:15,640
That you really can you're almost
comparing apples to oranges if you

1254
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:19,440
compare it to two different projects.
>> You do and I think one of the things

1255
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:26,280
that's interesting to me when we started
looking at the numbers is that

1256
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:30,560
the employment that's generated by this
this use

1257
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:35,880
is not insignificant. Right? We talked
about the traffic, but we're talking

1258
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:41,400
between 3 and 400 people
who who could be working at this

1259
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:47,880
facility at everything from management
to maintenance to health workers to

1260
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:50,640
dining to facilities management
everything in between.

1261
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:56,040
» Hospitality.
>> Hospitality and so now you've got this

1262
01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:59,400
built-in workforce and unlike the office
parks around here

1263
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:03,960
those jobs don't go somewhere else,
right? These jobs have to stay here

1264
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:07,960
and AI's not replacing them.
>> I think the only thing you don't have is

1265
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:10,920
the funeral director. You have just
about everything else.

1266
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:17,800
» I don't think you want to go there. I
wouldn't recommend that.

1267
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:20,480
» So moving right along. So the uh
>> But what I mean by that it's a positive.

1268
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,960
» It is.
>> You don't have to leave the site. This

1269
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,000
is the
>> It's modeled more after

1270
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:26,120
» after
>> Connecticut.

1271
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:30,280
» Yeah.
>> Connecticut has done that way before so

1272
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:34,280
many in the Northeast.
>> You don't have to leave the site, but

1273
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:39,080
what we find is what Erickson has found
is that their residents like to engage

1274
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:42,520
in the community, so they have
a lot of them have their own cars, but

1275
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:46,720
they also have transportation. They look
for opportunities to volunteer in the

1276
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:51,560
communities. Most of these people are
are

1277
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:55,120
above average in their affluence Um,
want to take that opportunity to give

1278
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:58,680
back. That's kind of what we see. So,
you get this opportunity also to

1279
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:04,160
integrate with the community, plus the 3
to 400 people who work here, anyone from

1280
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:08,080
a high school student who's bussing
tables,

1281
01:36:05,480 --> 01:36:11,120
um, up. And it really provides a great a
great range, we think.

1282
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:17,240
Um,
to facilitate the project, right? We are

1283
01:36:13,480 --> 01:36:22,280
asking for a PUD zoning amendment, just
like the other PUDs, a site-specific PUD

1284
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:25,440
to approve the zoning and the concept
plan.

1285
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:30,120
Uh, we're requesting buildings of four
stories and then in select locations on

1286
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:34,280
the site up to five stories. And that's
only for the buildings farthest away

1287
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:38,360
from Doral Greens, farthest from King
Field, farthest from Anderson Hill Road.

1288
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:40,160
Really at the bottom of the site next to
Sunny Purchase.

1289
01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:45,200
» down
>> Uh, south of the pond, yeah. And

1290
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:49,240
adjacent to the the woods.
>> Um,

1291
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:53,040
and so, the density we're requesting is
9.1 dwelling units per acre. So, the

1292
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:58,120
independent living units are dwelling
units. They have full kitchens,

1293
01:36:54,280 --> 01:37:01,120
bathrooms, and up to and 10.1 units
total units. So, that includes the

1294
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:06,120
assisted living.
Your current PUD

1295
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:11,400
at base is six dwelling units per acre.
So, that's six townhouses. We're

1296
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:14,800
requesting nine CCRC units.
Um, we want to limit the coverage to

1297
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:19,920
25%.
We proposed a parking ratio and then

1298
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:24,760
specific setbacks, right? 150 ft from
Anderson Hill Road, 100 ft from the

1299
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:28,240
sides, and 200 ft from the rear. That's
the northern King Field,

1300
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:31,960
um,
boundary. And as Tony said,

1301
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:38,360
we have this new
um, this new this new consideration of

1302
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:44,000
of CCRC attainable unit, an affordable
unit. Um, because these units are not

1303
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:49,200
for sale and they're not for rent. So,
right now, almost everyone's affordable

1304
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:52,960
unit, um, code says for sale and for
rent, here are the rules. These are not

1305
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:57,480
for sale or for rent. You pay an
entrance fee when you come in. It's

1306
01:37:55,200 --> 01:38:02,640
highly refundable. That secures your
spot in the facility. That secures your

1307
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:07,280
independent living unit. Generally,
people sell an asset, a house, what have

1308
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:11,240
you, and then you pay a monthly service
fee.

1309
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:17,240
There is no landlord-tenant relationship
and there's no title transfer. It's a

1310
01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:21,520
contractual agreement that's entered
into, a residency and care agreement,

1311
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:26,760
that's secured by that entrance fee. So,
we had to come up with another model.

1312
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:30,520
Because this is mostly service-oriented,
we also knew that we couldn't just have

1313
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:34,840
the same
rent levels as the monthly service fee

1314
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:38,640
because the monthly service fee includes
food, includes health care, includes

1315
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:42,840
other things that you would be spending
your money on.

1316
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:50,240
And so, we came up with this model,
um to make these units affordable to

1317
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:55,160
people who are at 80% of AMI,
up to 80% of AMI.

1318
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:59,240
And they in return, they get a
guaranteed home for life, just like any

1319
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:04,560
other Erickson resident, guaranteed
entry to assisted living and memory

1320
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:09,080
care, and we're prorating the
um monthly service fee.

1321
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:12,920
Right? So, we're we're pegging it at the
affordable rent

1322
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:19,080
published by Westchester County, right,
for a one-bedroom unit, plus

1323
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:24,360
the additional monthly service fee.
Erickson units, a traditional Erickson

1324
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:28,440
unit, if it was a couple that moved in,
would pay a fee for that unit, a monthly

1325
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:33,160
service fee,
and then they would pay an additional

1326
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:36,840
person service fee. That's less because
the first service fee includes your

1327
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:42,360
housing as well. So, what we said is
let's decouple it, just like that. You

1328
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:46,200
pay for the rent at the affordable rate,
and then you pay that if there's a

1329
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:49,240
second person, you pay that
>> But the entry fee is

1330
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,880
fixed.
>> The entry fee is fixed. So, what we what

1331
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,800
the way the
>> Whether you are affordable,

1332
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,960
non-affordable, there is no break on
that.

1333
01:39:55,160 --> 01:40:02,520
» Correct. And the way it works is they
have a range of entry fees, and that

1334
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:06,400
they secure different sizes of units,
basically, is what what they do. So, we

1335
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:11,280
would Erickson proposes to make the
lower

1336
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:15,960
the most affordable two tiers as
as eligible for these attainable units.

1337
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:18,840
It would not be
um

1338
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:24,040
it would not be prorated, but what we're
targeting is someone who has an asset

1339
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:27,480
who's, you know, over 62 years of age,
maybe they're 80.

1340
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:31,720
And maybe they're looking to sell their
house, but they don't have a large

1341
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:35,480
income. They don't have a large pension.
They don't have something, you know,

1342
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:40,040
investment income they're living off of.
But they do have some income. So, they

1343
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:45,400
have an asset to secure this.
Um and then they have their income, and

1344
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:49,960
that's a pretty sizable chunk of the
population who probably fall into that

1345
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:53,240
category. Um and that's what we're
targeting.

1346
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:59,080
In addition,
those units that Erickson would make as

1347
01:40:55,880 --> 01:41:02,960
affordable units are not any different,
as Tony said, than any other unit. In

1348
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:07,040
fact,
the um

1349
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:11,640
the Broadview site in Sunny Purchase has
an affordable program.

1350
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:15,080
Their affordable are only in the
smallest of the smallest units. In fact,

1351
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:20,240
they made a whole 'nother size for them.
They're kind of very small.

1352
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:25,880
Erickson will make um they are going to
have these, you know, tiers of units. Um

1353
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:30,320
there will be affordable and
non-affordable in that same tier. There

1354
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:34,320
will be no distinction from the outside,
from the inside. You will not be able to

1355
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:39,880
tell walking in there
if you're in an affordable unit or not,

1356
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:44,360
because there will be some smaller units
that someone who's not an affordable

1357
01:41:42,440 --> 01:41:47,720
um resident will pay and some that
aren't. And so it's really integrated

1358
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,840
into the community.
>> And you receive the same level of

1359
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,840
services.
>> Absolutely same level. No one would

1360
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:56,040
know.
Um

1361
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:59,640
So
Look, I'll give you the pitch. We

1362
01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:05,640
believe this is a low-impact use
relatively um in a pretty good site. As

1363
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:09,680
Tony said we're projecting over $8
million in annual property taxes, more

1364
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:13,080
than 5 and 1/2 million a year to the
school.

1365
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:17,640
That's 9% of their budget from last
year.

1366
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:22,800
Um about a million seven to the village.
It's about 6% of their budget last year.

1367
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:25,960
And unlike the office buildings or
hospitality

1368
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:30,440
we're not going anywhere. These are
folks who live here and people who work

1369
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:34,400
here. We're stable. Um
We'll go into it in the EIS, but we have

1370
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:39,440
less traffic
than Arrowwood. Um similar land

1371
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:43,160
coverage, less parking. Um less traffic
than if you were to do an as-of-right

1372
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:49,000
town home development, significantly
less traffic. Um Erickson Communities

1373
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:53,000
typically have about 1.3
people per unit if you were to average

1374
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:57,720
it across all their residents.
Um average household size in Rye Brook

1375
01:42:54,920 --> 01:43:03,040
is 2.87. Right? So we're less than half
of the population density.

1376
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:09,320
» You're going to be making available
ballroom space, uh banquet space for for

1377
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:13,480
the for for the outside or no?
>> No, so this is a very

1378
01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:15,400
again community center.
>> unit.

1379
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:19,680
» Very much.
Um

1380
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:23,440
Tony talked about the setbacks. Um
And then obviously up to the top of that

1381
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:25,960
screen is 1100 King Street, right? The
former Reckson

1382
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:29,880
building. So you got about half a
million square feet of

1383
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:33,920
of office space.
Since I am a planner and you are the

1384
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:35,960
planning board. I'd be remiss if I
didn't talk about the comprehensive

1385
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:40,240
plan.
Um we believe this use and the zoning is

1386
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:43,840
consistent with the comprehensive plan.
Some of the goals that were laid out,

1387
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:47,000
right? Providing an enduring economic
base,

1388
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:49,840
preserving natural, cultural,
recreational, historic assets.

1389
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:52,680
Um
This land has already been developed.

1390
01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:57,920
It's already been graded. It's already
been heavily disturbed.

1391
01:43:55,280 --> 01:44:03,000
It provides a much-needed product.
Um provides a diversity, you know, adds

1392
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:06,680
to the diversity of housing choices.
And again,

1393
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:10,760
changing the density
um is consistent with what was

1394
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:14,920
recommended in the comprehensive plan.
Well, no one really wants to necessarily

1395
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:17,600
hear that that it it the comprehensive
plan says

1396
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:22,360
we should adjust the density
requirements for residential uses in the

1397
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:27,520
PUD to a less restrictive regulation.
>> Yeah. The comprehensive plan was also

1398
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:31,480
created well before, say, 900 King was
brought online.

1399
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:34,640
» It was. Yep. Yep.
>> Yeah.

1400
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:39,040
» No, absolutely. Absolutely. But I the
the point is I I think and and again,

1401
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:43,760
we'll go into it, but that six units an
acre

1402
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:47,600
um that's base in the PUD, there are
very few if any PUDs that meet that

1403
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:51,200
today.
Um and so when we start looking at what

1404
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:57,480
the densities are,
what the FAR is, will be about the same

1405
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:59,160
FAR as the Arbors, for example.
Um

1406
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:02,800
» I mean, I'm just speaking to the
diversity of housing choices. I'm not

1407
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:06,600
sure that that point is accurate at all.
>> I see. I see what you're saying. Well, a

1408
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:10,280
group
I disagree a little bit, but I hear what

1409
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:13,360
you're saying only because this is a
this is this is going to be a very

1410
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:17,760
different product than a Sunrise
product, than an Atria product. Um

1411
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:20,920
» shouldn't compare to those at all then
when looking at density, for instance.

1412
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:24,120
» Well, it it
>> I think it's always I think it's always

1413
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:28,200
worth it to compare, but I think there
are differences.

1414
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:33,600
» Yeah, I just just to interject, when
one of the interesting things about this

1415
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:38,760
community that we saw in New Jersey
is that the way it's laid out, there

1416
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:45,400
there seem to be a lot of units.
But essentially they have have sort of

1417
01:45:41,480 --> 01:45:52,800
hubs with apartments spiraling out
separated by a lot of green space to

1418
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:57,720
other hubs. So it's not like like you
know other residences where you have

1419
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:03,000
single buildings
that are have to be you know

1420
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:05,360
fairly large in order to accommodate all
the residents.

1421
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:09,880
» It differs from Sunrise.
>> It Well, it's it's it's an interesting

1422
01:46:08,440 --> 01:46:14,760
» compare that's the compare.
>> If you if you a couple of things if you

1423
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:19,480
maybe you can touch on because
as I understand the procedure and anyone

1424
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:23,840
can interrupt me if I'm wrong
at usually it

1425
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:28,280
we would get a a referral from the Board
of Trustees for a report and

1426
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:31,120
recommendation on the concept plan.
But it's only it's a report and

1427
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:33,960
recommendation. It's not insignificant
so report and recommendation but we're

1428
01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:39,640
not the ones that are going to be voting
for it but our jurisdiction are is

1429
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:45,600
wetlands and steep slopes.
Um and to the I think the discussion

1430
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:49,160
about about density, can you comment on
your sort of concept of use of green

1431
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:54,440
space which I thought was sort of
interesting and maybe you can comment on

1432
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:58,920
whatever wetlands issues and steep
slopes issues. We You did discuss at the

1433
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:06,000
at the head of the conversation about
how the slope is actually going to be

1434
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:07,800
used to enhance the sort of the the sort
of the building plan.

1435
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:12,360
» Yeah,
I appreciate that. So the way that this

1436
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:16,760
works and I it I apologize if it's hard
to see on the screen. The yellow are the

1437
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:19,760
the the
roof prints. They're not really

1438
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:23,160
footprints. Roof prints of the of the
residential buildings.

1439
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:29,000
What what they've done is they've
designed those buildings

1440
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:32,560
into the hill so that the parking,
almost all of the parking, not all,

1441
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:37,160
almost all of the parking is below those
buildings. Every residential unit will

1442
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:40,320
have a covered parking space under a
building.

1443
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:46,760
And so we're able to do that because of
the slope. So interspersed in between

1444
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:52,720
those residential buildings are green
spaces. They might be programmed, they

1445
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:57,000
might not be. There could be courtyards.
There There are a number of other

1446
01:47:54,840 --> 01:48:01,200
landscape features. And so what you'll
see is you'll see this um you see the

1447
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:04,800
the
residential building as kind of a C or

1448
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:08,200
an L.
If you square that off and make a

1449
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:13,000
rectangle, that's the footprint of the
garage. And so on top of that is space

1450
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:18,040
that we're able to utilize, Erickson's
able to utilize for amenity spaces.

1451
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:22,320
Diego's able to utilize them for
stormwater and other places. So in

1452
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:27,440
addition to having larger stormwater
areas that will need, obviously, we're

1453
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:31,920
able to intersperse um some stormwater
features throughout those buildings. And

1454
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:36,960
so by
by breaking them up, we're we're really

1455
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:41,880
able to kind of reduce kind of the
the the kind of scale and massing a

1456
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:45,280
little bit. Um
it Look, it's still

1457
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:49,680
it's still like a
good size development program. I'm not

1458
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:53,960
going to say it's not. Um but the way
that it's been laid out,

1459
01:48:52,040 --> 01:49:00,680
really kind of takes advantage of that
opportunity. Um in terms of wetlands, um

1460
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:05,880
we shouldn't have much of any wetland
direct wetland impact.

1461
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:08,760
Most of that forest in SUNY Purchase,
right? There's wetland in there, right?

1462
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:12,440
You got the Blind Brook and you've got
wetlands. Um

1463
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:15,400
we might be grading a little in the
wetland buffer,

1464
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:20,880
but the wetland is really on the SUNY
Purchase side. Um the tree line is more

1465
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:25,120
or less the property line and it's
grass up to that tree line. So, it's

1466
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:29,920
already been disturbed. We might be
grading it a little bit, um but we're

1467
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:34,280
not planning on going into the wetlands.
There are a couple pockets of steep

1468
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:37,520
slopes that we would um be modifying as
well.

1469
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:41,160
» Peter, just out of curiosity, out of 83
acres when it's all said and done, what

1470
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:49,440
percentage of the site would be
remaining impervious?

1471
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:49,440
» Um impervious would be about 23 24%.

1472
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,960
» I can tell you how much green space you
>> Diego can make any comments.

1473
01:49:55,400 --> 01:50:02,880
» I just I just want to add one thing. I
apologize. Diego Villarreal with JMC,

1474
01:49:59,960 --> 01:50:07,960
um the engineers with the applicant. No,
it just I wanted to just emphasize a

1475
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:11,880
point. I think the area of development
that you're seeing right now, two things

1476
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:15,560
that Peter spoke about. A lot of the
area is already disturbed and we're all

1477
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:19,440
really focused in even though it's a
sprawling development area.

1478
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:22,840
Um the previous building that was there
when you look at an aerial photograph of

1479
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:27,280
the existing conditions, it really was a
sprawling building extended pretty far

1480
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:31,320
south, extended pretty far north. And
all of these areas is focused in what

1481
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:35,560
was already disturbed areas, whether or
not it was the golf course or the

1482
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:39,680
previous hotel with the parking areas
that were there. And the steep slopes

1483
01:50:37,480 --> 01:50:43,880
that are being disturbed as a result of
this project, were really manufactured

1484
01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:47,920
steep slopes as result of that. Uh the
golf course itself has all these

1485
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:52,320
fabricated hills and sand traps that was
created as part of the golf course. You

1486
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:57,120
don't really have any pristine areas
that were trying to be protected within

1487
01:50:54,560 --> 01:51:00,840
the development area. The natural areas
that occur along the perimeter of the

1488
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:04,760
property, that wooded area on the south
and western side of the property, all of

1489
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:08,360
that is being maintained. And what you
actually see is those areas that were

1490
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:12,520
disturbed by the golf course, some of
it's going to be restored along the

1491
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:17,600
northern end, that buffer between uh
Kingsfield and the property, the area of

1492
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:22,600
parking between Doral Greens, all of
that is being restored back to a more

1493
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:26,240
natural condition. So, uh even though it
is somewhat of a sprawling development,

1494
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:30,640
again, what was there before was a
sprawling development as well, and we're

1495
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:35,880
really working within those boundaries
and in a lot of cases bringing it back

1496
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:39,000
in a little bit tighter. Um and and
re-emphasizing again the parking under

1497
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:42,280
the building. It was something that we
worked with with Erickson and

1498
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:45,440
significantly reduces the amount of
impervious area that would otherwise

1499
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:49,920
need to be created. The building is the
building, putting the parking underneath

1500
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:54,000
those areas, that added cost with the
construction, working within the

1501
01:51:51,440 --> 01:51:57,720
hillside, again, significantly reduces
the amount of impervious area and gives

1502
01:51:56,120 --> 01:52:02,040
us a lot of opportunities to do
stormwater management between the

1503
01:51:59,440 --> 01:52:05,320
buildings. Uh Erickson has a landscape
architect that we've been working with

1504
01:52:03,480 --> 01:52:09,200
hand-in-hand that has already
incorporated a lot of those features in

1505
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:13,880
between the building and those things.
These are just Again, all of which will

1506
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:17,240
be vetted through the DEIS process, but
just wanted to make the board aware that

1507
01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:21,360
these things were all considered in the
development of this plan. It's not just

1508
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:25,040
a picture, it's something that's really
been vetted and designed and worked

1509
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:29,800
through with a number of design
professionals taking into consideration

1510
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:32,560
all of these things that we know uh this
board, the village board, and the town

1511
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:35,200
and the village is going to be
interested in as we go through this

1512
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:38,080
process.
>> that you would have any steep slopes in

1513
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:42,920
the Fulton and Fifth, yeah.
>> It's really not much that's out there.

1514
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:46,760
It's again, fabricated as a result of
the construction of the building

1515
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:50,760
previously, and then the golf course
itself. When you When I think of steep

1516
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:53,840
slopes, I think of wooded hillsides.
Those are the things that you're trying

1517
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:57,360
to preserve and protect as a result of
that ordinance, and that's just not what

1518
01:52:55,720 --> 01:53:00,480
you have in this case.
>> You did You may have mentioned it at the

1519
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:03,960
beginning, but I was asleep, so I
apologize.

1520
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:06,760
How does the density here compare to the
900 King Street? I should know that. I

1521
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:11,720
worked on it for you.
>> Well, so

1522
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:18,560
the density is um
we're less. So, number one, we're lower.

1523
01:53:14,440 --> 01:53:21,880
Um 900 King Street is 13.1 units per
acre.

1524
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:31,000
We're at 10.1.
Um they are at 0.45 FAR.

1525
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:35,680
We're at 0.39 FAR.
The Arbors is about 0.37 just as a

1526
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:39,120
comparison.
It's not I'm not making any value

1527
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:43,200
judgments.
>> Can you Can you Can you comment on on

1528
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:48,040
the pond
that's on the north I guess northwest?

1529
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:51,760
What is What I I'm that that that
feature I mean is that a man-made

1530
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:56,080
feature or is that
>> I don't know if it I it probably was

1531
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:59,160
man-made. I'm not positive. I think it
was for the golf course, but it is part

1532
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:02,280
of the
the Blind Brook at this point. I mean,

1533
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:05,040
it's connected.
>> Right.

1534
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:09,080
» It's directly connected. There's an
inlet and an outlet to it.

1535
01:54:07,440 --> 01:54:12,960
Um and that's again one of the features
that we talked about early on. It's an

1536
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:16,640
area that's going to be preserved,
incorporated into the design,

1537
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:20,000
um
removing the golf course features that

1538
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:23,760
are around it, restoring some of the
>> expanding the pond?

1539
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:27,920
» They as part of this application, no. We
are not looking at expanding the pond.

1540
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:32,480
It's maintaining its current location.
We are proposing a relatively large

1541
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:35,120
stormwater basin on the southern portion
of the site. You see the area that's

1542
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:38,920
there.
Uh Tony alluded to it you know, early on

1543
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:43,720
with stormwater management. We have an
obligation no net increase, no runoff,

1544
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:47,000
no increase to downstream properties. I
know that's it's an engineering

1545
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:50,200
requirement not only by your village,
but the New York State DEC where we have

1546
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:54,760
to comply with all of those
requirements. Uh but we are looking at

1547
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:58,120
enhancements to that pond as well as a
significant stormwater management

1548
01:54:56,520 --> 01:55:01,200
measure down on the southern portion of
the property in addition to everything

1549
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:03,720
else that's going to be done.
>> to

1550
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:06,840
» a passive pond or are you going to have
recreational boats or anything like

1551
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:11,480
that?
>> I hope no boats. I'll ask Steve and Mary

1552
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:13,640
Ann. I don't That I don't know. That I
don't know.

1553
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:18,680
Hold on. What do you want to say?
>> Mr. Cohen was going to have boats.

1554
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:23,160
» This is great. So, I just want to say
one thing. So, with less impact when you

1555
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:27,240
look at this from an impact point of
view,

1556
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:32,720
it's less impacts than the the Arwood.
And the Arwood gave the village a

1557
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:36,400
million seven plus $350,000
in hotel tax.

1558
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:41,240
We're at 8.1.
That's all That's all. So, less offsite

1559
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:43,640
impacts and we're quadrupling the tax to
the village.

1560
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,680
That's all I got to say.
>> So,

1561
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:51,040
we went through all the approvals and
everything. I think enough of us

1562
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:56,000
talking. I apologize. I would like to
ask Mary Ann Navarro with Erickson

1563
01:55:53,960 --> 01:56:01,480
Senior Living to come up and just talk
about Erickson as a company. So, both

1564
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:06,400
Erickson both Mary Ann is here and Steve
Montgomery is here from Erickson.

1565
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:09,520
They plan to be here regularly. You will
get to know them so you don't have to

1566
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:13,680
just look at us.
But, I do want to take the chance cuz I

1567
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:16,960
it is a very interesting company.
>> Peter, before you before you go, could I

1568
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:20,480
just ask you one more other question?
Regarding emergency services. Can you

1569
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:25,840
talk about the impact of those?
>> Yeah. So, that is going to be right one

1570
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:28,520
of the areas we need to really focus on.
We've already started the conversations

1571
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:32,080
with Chris.
Mary Ann's going to go into it a little

1572
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:38,240
bit. Um
basically, as part of Erickson's model,

1573
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:42,080
their model is really caring for the
person, the resident.

1574
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:46,160
They will be providing the lift assist.
They have their own

1575
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:51,600
Erickson Health Group,
which is the largest provider of primary

1576
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:55,800
primary geriatric care in the country.
They have them in their facilities.

1577
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:59,520
There are emergency medical responder
EMR certified

1578
01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:03,920
staff
everywhere.

1579
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:08,440
They respond basically to about 87% of
the calls for service within their

1580
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:10,960
community.
They're doing

1581
01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:14,800
basically everything you can. They're
doing the lift assist. They're doing all

1582
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:18,440
of that. There will still be calls for
911 service.

1583
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:22,360
There will be.
We're working on figuring out that

1584
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:24,600
number.
We're working with We're going to be

1585
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:29,640
working with Chris. We've already
started setting things up to talk about

1586
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:34,160
what does that do to the EMS service
now? I don't have that answer for you.

1587
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:38,480
But we need that answer and we're going
to get it and figure it out and

1588
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:42,640
um
that's one of the biggest.

1589
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:44,120
» That goes for I would assume police,
fire.

1590
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:49,280
» Correct.
>> And and what about

1591
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:53,640
kind of service? Gas and electric?
>> Um we're beginning to reach out with

1592
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:57,000
them now. We haven't reached out yet.
We're just We're still there.

1593
01:57:56,120 --> 01:58:00,640
Uh-huh.
>> Well, wait. I I don't Well, I'm sorry.

1594
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:06,680
Go ahead. I
So, they I just have to laugh. This

1595
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:10,200
this plan
is

1596
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:15,880
almost a preliminary site plan.
There has been so much thought and

1597
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:17,160
money. The people they have on staff in
house.

1598
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,320
» just asking.
>> There's a land No, I know. I'm just

1599
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:23,240
going to tell you. The landscape
architect is like in Minnesota. The

1600
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:26,280
other architects over here.
Things are generated within hours.

1601
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,960
» Tony, you're not telling us that we
don't have to review it, are you?

1602
01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:31,560
» No, no, no. I just
>> what I I I apologize, but that's what

1603
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:35,840
I'm hearing from you.
>> But it's just you got

1604
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:39,760
oil and gas or gas and electric. I mean,
this is normally you get a cartoon.

1605
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:44,280
This is what we're thinking about doing.
>> is an issue in this area now.

1606
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:48,040
» Yes. So, we're we need to start looking
at that and the loads and everything

1607
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:52,880
else. Obviously, there's gas and
electric there. There was a big user.

1608
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:56,440
We're coming up with the loads now and
and that's our next reach out.

1609
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:59,520
» Well, I mean this is part of the DIS. I
mean this is this is this

1610
01:58:57,480 --> 01:59:02,600
» I mean, what I will say is
the good news is we have a will serve

1611
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:08,320
from Veolia.
We have a will serve for sewer.

1612
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:11,840
So, we're we're pretty far ahead, but
gas and electric not yet.

1613
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:15,720
» Can you just speak a little bit to the
um the need for um a zoning and or use

1614
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:19,640
change here?
>> Yeah. So, the use is permitted. Um

1615
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:23,120
the the PUD
>> Sorry. Let Let me just

1616
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:27,880
use is specifically the the change in
use is being specifically

1617
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:31,680
refined and defined, right? Here. So,
yeah, that's that's one of my questions,

1618
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:35,880
and the other one is just why is there
um a zoning change required here also?

1619
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:40,240
» Yeah. So, the um
currently the PUDs permit senior living

1620
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:43,360
facilities, which are which are defined
as

1621
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:47,120
residential uses for those 62 years of
age and older. So, that's permitted.

1622
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:51,520
That's what we are.
We're proposing as part of our zoning

1623
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:58,200
text amendment to refine that use and
specifically define the CCRC use

1624
01:59:55,160 --> 02:00:04,440
as a type of senior living facility. The
reason we're doing that is because we

1625
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:11,000
are attaching a separate um affordable
housing requirement to that use.

1626
02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:15,280
Because without redefining that, we're
stuck because we don't have a for sale

1627
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:20,960
product or a for rent product. So, we're
defining the subset of a senior living

1628
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:26,640
facility for the sole purpose of
advancing a uh separate affordable

1629
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:31,480
housing requirement. That's the that's
the requirement. The rest of the zoning

1630
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:35,360
is bulk and density requirements and
dimensional requirements for the

1631
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:39,840
specific concept plan.
>> Thank you.

1632
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:39,840
» Sorry, Maria.

1633
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:48,200
» Hi again, everybody.
Our team did a really good job of of

1634
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:51,680
telling our story, so uh there's
not a whole lot for me to say, but they

1635
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:57,280
really have dug in and learned a lot
about Erickson and our product and

1636
02:00:54,680 --> 02:01:02,000
our residents and our community, so
um they were able to share a lot of

1637
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:05,400
information, but I will I will just say
that

1638
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:12,440
we are a growing company.
Uh we Erickson, we were

1639
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:15,920
founded in Baltimore over 40 years ago.
Our offices, Stephen and I, like our

1640
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:20,840
offices are actually
right on the

1641
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:25,360
grounds of our very first community.
So we're part of the senior, you know,

1642
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:30,400
senior living environment every every
day um

1643
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:36,680
in Baltimore and I think that just is a
is an example that we are the long-term

1644
02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:41,720
owners, operators, managers
of our communities and so

1645
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:46,360
we have really developed a product over
time and refined that product and

1646
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:50,000
continue to refine that product
constantly

1647
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:54,520
um in order to serve
our residents, our seniors, and that

1648
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:59,000
very unique population, you know
over over 80 years old

1649
02:01:57,320 --> 02:02:01,400
and and to meet their needs, so I think
that's

1650
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:06,280
um
really part of our story and why we get

1651
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:09,880
so involved in in developing the
properties because we're going to own

1652
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:14,880
them, manage them, operate them
long-term. But again, um

1653
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:19,000
we were founded in Baltimore. Now we we
are we've grown over the years. We're

1654
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:22,920
one of the top five senior living
providers

1655
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:27,880
in the country and
we currently are in 11 states. If we

1656
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:32,360
have a community here in New York, it'll
be the 12th,

1657
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:35,560
our 12th state. We don't have any um
any properties here in New York, but

1658
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:38,480
we've we've been wanting to be here for
a very long time.

1659
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:42,560
Um
you know, our mission is to help people

1660
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:45,680
build um, help people live better lives,
and that's really for our residents,

1661
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:48,840
over
33,000

1662
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:50,960
residents, I think now, and our
employees.

1663
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:54,760
» Yeah. I have a question I have a
question for you. When we were visiting

1664
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:59,200
your facility in New Jersey, one of the
things that impressed me, because I have

1665
02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:04,800
a mother who's 88 years old,
um, is the internal medical facilities

1666
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:10,080
that you have, and your concept behind
that, and how you differ from other

1667
02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:14,000
other
you know, like, you know, uh, products

1668
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:16,000
with with that.
>> Sure.

1669
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:20,920
» on that, I would appreciate that.
>> Yes. Um, actually,

1670
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:26,560
if actually, there are a couple of
things that really set Erickson apart

1671
02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:30,920
from other senior living providers, and
really that top one would be

1672
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:35,720
health care and access to health care.
So, um, all of our communities have an

1673
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:40,000
on-site medical center. Um, our
residents can see

1674
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:43,440
doctors, they're Erickson doctors,
Erickson Health Medical Group, exclusive

1675
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:47,920
to our residents, and also our
employees.

1676
02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:51,960
Um, they can see them same day,
you know, manage their care. Um,

1677
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:57,400
probably in a community this size, we
would have probably

1678
02:03:53,800 --> 02:04:01,760
three or four dedicated physicians
just for our our residents. In addition,

1679
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:07,200
we would have, um, all of the, like,
nurse practitioners,

1680
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:11,400
nurses, um, social workers,
medical aids, uh,

1681
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:17,080
all the tech staff. Uh, so we would we
really offer that um, that whole primary

1682
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:22,120
care provi- um, environment, and then
also,

1683
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:26,360
uh, we bring in specialists as well. Um,
and then we work very closely with the

1684
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:29,920
neighboring, uh, with neighboring health
systems. We develop very strong

1685
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:34,520
relationships with them, so that if our
resident is going to have surgery, or

1686
02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:37,840
they're going to be, um, they have a
hospital stay, and then they're

1687
02:04:35,880 --> 02:04:42,920
transitioning back, or they're
um coming from rehab, you know, our

1688
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:46,640
on-site care coordinators are working
regularly with the hospital staff to

1689
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:49,600
make sure that that those residents are
transitioning back successfully.

1690
02:04:48,680 --> 02:04:51,160
» how how does the how does that work? Are
they Are they private physicians? Is it

1691
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:54,920
part of the service fees of Erickson? Or
are they required to carry medical

1692
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:54,920
insurance like everybody?

1693
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:08,440
» They are
The physicians group is Erickson Health

1694
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:13,920
is Erickson Health Medical Group. So,
they are a practice that's exclusive to

1695
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:16,040
our residents, but they are
um

1696
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:20,160
regular doctors.
>> do they contract with Medicare? Do they

1697
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:22,120
» We accept Medicare.
>> Right. Yes.

1698
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:27,200
» Mhm.
Yes. And we also have a product we have

1699
02:05:24,160 --> 02:05:31,760
a Medicare Part D product um that some
of our Yes, we do. Erickson um Health

1700
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:36,120
Advantage and our residents can elect
into that if they they want. They're not

1701
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:41,480
required to do that, but many of them do
and we've seen some very good outcomes

1702
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:44,840
for the residents that that have that
that um

1703
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:48,360
extra service
as far as their you know, ability to

1704
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:54,280
stay out of the hospital and shorter
stays and you know, we have a lot of um

1705
02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:58,160
data around that. So, yes, so definitely
that is a major component. We also

1706
02:05:56,000 --> 02:06:05,000
talked a little bit about the um
We have 24/7 safety and security

1707
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:11,440
protocols and staff in place. They're um
all the staff is emergency management

1708
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:17,120
uh response certified, trained as well
as um a number of staff like have the

1709
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:21,080
basic um life safety CPR. So, we're able
to uh

1710
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:25,480
we have an in-house communication system
and protocols. We're able to respond to

1711
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:30,240
all of the um the needs of our
residents, you know, if it's a fall,

1712
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:34,720
they're feeling, you know, light-headed.
Uh we check daily on our our residents.

1713
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:38,840
We make sure that they're getting up out
of their unit. Um, you know, if they

1714
02:06:37,320 --> 02:06:42,160
have not gotten out of their unit and no
one's, you know, seen them that day,

1715
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:44,720
we're going in, we're doing a welfare
check. We use electronic monitoring to

1716
02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:46,160
do
>> Here's another question.

1717
02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:50,920
» Mhm.
>> Are you, um,

1718
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:55,400
certified or
How How does How does it work with, uh,

1719
02:06:54,240 --> 02:07:00,200
um,
as a wellness and health facility? How

1720
02:06:58,520 --> 02:07:04,880
does it work with New York State
Department of Health? How does it work

1721
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:08,800
or does it with the Joint Commission
accreditation, things like that? Your

1722
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:15,600
Your specifically, your medical
services. Who Who serve Who surveys it?

1723
02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:18,440
Who makes you accountable?
What requirements are are

1724
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:23,240
Are they
>> do not have a community in New York yet,

1725
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:28,200
we haven't been through that process,
but we have a full regulatory group, and

1726
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:30,000
they actually are part of Stephen I's
team.

1727
02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:33,760
» I see. So, they've done some
>> They've done some initial, um,

1728
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:38,640
documentation with the Attorney
General's Office in New York,

1729
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:45,440
understanding, um, the CCRC senior
living requirement regulations in in the

1730
02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:49,440
state of New York, um, and how the
different levels of care, the continuum

1731
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:53,320
of care will be regulated here. Yes, in
New York. And we know, and so we're

1732
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:56,920
» We're the most regulated regulatory
state in the country.

1733
02:07:54,720 --> 02:08:01,720
» Yes. So, our team we have we we have a
team that's very experienced. You know,

1734
02:07:59,200 --> 02:08:05,080
we also are um, getting a team put
together. We We actually have two

1735
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:09,080
properties in California, so we're
working, um,

1736
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:15,440
there as well, moving through those
regulatory, uh,

1737
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:20,080
hurdles. So, I So, as as we get closer
to, um, developing a community, you

1738
02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:24,240
know, if we're successful, then, um, you
know, we would we have a whole on-site

1739
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:28,560
health, um, or we have a whole in-house
like health operations group, the

1740
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:32,520
regulatory group, and so they've already
started to do their

1741
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:34,480
their due diligence and
there.

1742
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:37,440
» Thanks.
>> You got it.

1743
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:40,040
» So, again, um so
we talked a little bit about some of the

1744
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:46,480
um
success we've had with managing those uh

1745
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:52,840
those calls for service or the internal
needs of residents in house. We achieved

1746
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:56,160
nearly 90% of the calls um our residents
make

1747
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:59,400
um we're able to address their needs
directly. Um

1748
02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:04,360
and then about
but you know, 10% of them would would

1749
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:09,320
have to be transferred outside to 911,
the 911 system, or police and fire. And

1750
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:13,080
we have relationships, we develop
relationships with um the local

1751
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:16,280
» Mhm.
>> jurisdictions.

1752
02:09:14,640 --> 02:09:19,080
And we look forward to to working with
Chris. We've had a preliminary meetings

1753
02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:22,240
with him.
So, I think we look forward to working

1754
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:25,520
with him. And then I'll just say just
some again

1755
02:09:23,800 --> 02:09:30,280
I think another differentiator for
Erickson is just the scale of our

1756
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:34,400
community and and how we're offering our
residents uh the level of service. And

1757
02:09:32,680 --> 02:09:39,560
we're able to provide the lifestyle
lifestyle to many more residents to meet

1758
02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:44,280
that need um for the growing senior
population and and how we've refined our

1759
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:47,440
program and architecture and
community over time

1760
02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:50,360
to address those needs.
>> Thank you.

1761
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:56,160
» Um I've been reminded by our attorney
that we actually have a task to to

1762
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:59,960
perform, but um I want to ask in terms
of timing

1763
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:01,920
when do you need
>> Sorry.

1764
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:05,760
» When do you need the planning board's
comments with respect to the DEIS?

1765
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:08,720
» Scope.
>> The scope.

1766
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:10,680
» So, that
>> 10 days.

1767
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:13,720
» Hopefully
>> If they shut it down on the 8th, which

1768
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:16,960
they probably will.
>> So, you have

1769
02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:19,480
» The 18th of September, or anytime after
that if

1770
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:19,480
» Right.

1771
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:24,840
» Because what I'm I'm thinking of I I I
assume every

1772
02:10:22,880 --> 02:10:28,680
» to have a special meeting.
>> Um

1773
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:33,480
» You may have.
>> You have a meeting on the on the 10th.

1774
02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:36,520
» Okay.
But then maybe we should schedule

1775
02:10:34,720 --> 02:10:39,680
something.
>> I think we should have a meeting.

1776
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:43,720
» Have what?
>> I mean we're not going to be able to

1777
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:47,120
I mean I think we can
>> I mean we have a document now.

1778
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:48,640
We don't have to wait till the 8th to
comment on this.

1779
02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:52,720
» Yeah.
>> We are commenting on the proposed scope

1780
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:56,000
of this document. Do we want them to
consider some other things?

1781
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:57,640
Oh
>> I mean

1782
02:10:56,360 --> 02:11:00,680
» That's pretty much what I That's my
understanding.

1783
02:10:58,280 --> 02:11:06,600
» I mean my I mean my thinking is this. I
unless I mean I I open the floor if

1784
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:12,440
there's any issue in and having reviewed
this document that any board member has

1785
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:17,640
with the DEIS, I mean I looked at it
myself. There's nothing that sprung out

1786
02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:21,040
at me that was sort of unusual that we
needed to include. It's a pretty

1787
02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:23,720
comprehensive document. It's pretty
standardized.

1788
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:27,360
Um I don't know.
>> may be some other you know, few things

1789
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:30,840
that we wanted to consider in addition
to what they are proposing, but I think

1790
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:34,880
the document is pretty much complete
scope.

1791
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:39,800
» I mean my my thinking is is that
is that we um

1792
02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:44,200
we have some time in order to people can
provide comments to to

1793
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:46,880
» we don't have to wait till the 8th of
September.

1794
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:48,440
We can do the
>> Right.

1795
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:50,560
» I understand.
>> That's my

1796
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:56,120
» However, do take into account that you
have two board members who are not here,

1797
02:11:52,960 --> 02:12:00,120
who may have other opinions and may have
other comments that we may not be

1798
02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:04,480
including.
Um we do have the meeting on September

1799
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:07,560
10th. That's within the time uh period.
>> Okay.

1800
02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:12,320
» Um there other persons who are on
vacation, other staff members, other

1801
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:16,280
professionals who may not be here. So to
do a special meeting between now and

1802
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:17,800
September 10th may be a little
difficult.

1803
02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:19,840
» Yeah.
>> So

1804
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:23,840
Well
>> Can we meet the 18th of September

1805
02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:25,280
deadline?
>> Yeah, cuz we're meeting on September

1806
02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:26,880
10th.
>> Well, the

1807
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:29,080
» September 10th.
>> Yeah,

1808
02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:32,400
we have a regular meeting on September
10th anyway, and the agenda only has one

1809
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:37,520
or two items on it.
>> what I think we should do is is that any

1810
02:12:34,320 --> 02:12:41,120
board member that has has comments with
respect to this, you know, send them to

1811
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:47,360
Pam.
Uh and and and what we'll do is is that

1812
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:52,400
whatever comments are received by Pam,
she and I will review them and then

1813
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:56,480
we'll review whatever feedback we've
given by our next meeting.

1814
02:12:54,280 --> 02:13:00,400
» I remember the 900 King our comments
were minimal.

1815
02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:05,800
» Well, it's even well, there there were
there were some, you know, issues with

1816
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:10,200
with some wetlands there and some other
things which do not exist with this

1817
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:16,080
particular application. So, I I think
for us at least, you know, my opinion is

1818
02:13:13,880 --> 02:13:18,960
that there's not a lot of legwork to be
done.

1819
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:22,840
» So, if if you can coordinate all that,
if you want us back on the 10th, let us

1820
02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:26,080
know. And And is it this full
presentation or we're going to be here

1821
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:31,200
to answer a few questions? Either way,
we'll do whatever you'd like.

1822
02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:31,200
» think that's necessary personally.

1823
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:36,680
» Yeah, no, just
>> Yeah, I I I I think I think you guys

1824
02:13:35,200 --> 02:13:40,720
have been pretty comprehensive.
>> I I I think you know, personally I'm at

1825
02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:43,800
a maybe at an advantage
because I have been in the we in the

1826
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:46,920
discussions with you three four times.
So, I think I've get a little better

1827
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:51,400
feel for the project.
>> Yeah, right. And if there are any

1828
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:54,600
questions, you know, similarly
give them to Pam and

1829
02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:56,680
we can get them to us and we can try to
get responses. It doesn't have to wait.

1830
02:13:56,080 --> 02:14:01,080
Like we'll
>> I I I I think

1831
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:04,640
I think the goal is by the by our next
meeting, we are going to be done with

1832
02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:09,760
what
we are entrusted to do. So, that by the

1833
02:14:07,160 --> 02:14:13,000
time the Board of Trustees meets
8 days later,

1834
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:15,920
they'll have whatever additional
comments if we have any additional

1835
02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:19,400
comments with respect to that.
>> I I do have a question. I think you made

1836
02:14:17,560 --> 02:14:24,240
an activity in the document that the
build out time frame you're looking 6 7

1837
02:14:22,120 --> 02:14:28,040
years.
I hope that's not continuous

1838
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:33,480
construction for 6 7 years because that
would be very disruptive to the

1839
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:36,320
community and the area.
>> It's not.

1840
02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:42,640
» It's phased in, right?
>> in. However, the the thought now is and

1841
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:46,240
Diego hasn't finished all the plans yet,
I don't think. But the thought is you

1842
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:51,040
would we would do most of the the
grading, the excavation, getting the

1843
02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:52,760
pads ready, the roads, the storm water.
Get all that in.

1844
02:14:52,200 --> 02:14:56,760
» Mhm.
>> So that the buildings are more or less

1845
02:14:54,720 --> 02:15:00,240
pad ready. So you'd do the first couple
in the first phase and then you're

1846
02:14:58,600 --> 02:15:05,000
talking about putting up one more
building when that's full, one more

1847
02:15:02,800 --> 02:15:07,320
building when that's full. So yes, there
would be construction, but it wouldn't

1848
02:15:06,560 --> 02:15:13,200
be this
>> going to have cement trucks driving down

1849
02:15:09,240 --> 02:15:13,200
for 7 years in the road. Okay.

1850
02:15:13,240 --> 02:15:20,240
» Well,
not conti- not continuously for 7 years.

1851
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:22,920
» It would be, but in a phased manner.
>> Not continually for 7 years, but yes,

1852
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:26,080
for 7 years.
>> But I don't mean 24 hours every single

1853
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:30,000
day of the week, yeah.
>> And I'll just add that by the time it

1854
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:34,480
gets to 7 years like we'll have a full
community of residents living there that

1855
02:15:32,120 --> 02:15:38,840
would complain also. So
>> I was hoping you were going to say that.

1856
02:15:37,560 --> 02:15:42,560
» residents and our neighbors.
>> How about this?

1857
02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:45,960
» Just real quick before we
as part of the DEIS scope, there's a

1858
02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:48,120
construction section within there. There
will be a detailed

1859
02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:51,560
» schedule
>> construction um

1860
02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:54,440
schedule, construction management
information. There'll be information

1861
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:57,360
that's going to be provided that I think
will answer each of those questions

1862
02:15:56,200 --> 02:16:02,040
there about the sequence of
construction, the timing, the duration,

1863
02:15:59,720 --> 02:16:04,480
and uh the sequencing of the plan as
well.

1864
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:05,960
» All right.
>> Okay.

1865
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:07,640
» Thank you.
>> All right.

1866
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:10,080
» it. Thank you all.
>> Thank you.

1867
02:16:11,160 --> 02:16:16,560
» Are we done?
>> Yeah.

1868
02:16:13,960 --> 02:16:16,560
» Can we uh

1869
02:16:16,600 --> 02:16:21,960
» That's the goal.
>> A motion and a second to adjourn? Or we

1870
02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:23,440
have something
All in favor?

1871
02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:25,320
» I.
>> I.

1872
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:28,080
» Any opposed? Thank you.
>> I.

1873
02:16:26,200 --> 02:16:31,320
» Only
Only those that sleep want

1874
02:18:30,320 --> 02:18:32,400
» Mhm.