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Maybe it's considered a park. I don't
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um plan, but I think there was enough
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continue to have the open spaces
portion. Uh I also think that we haven't

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really determined I know it says here
meet in alternating months. There's

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enough activity especially on bike and
ped safety that that's not enough

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meeting dates. And so we'd like to see
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schedule for the two committees.

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Trusty Stoker Brandon I think you you
stole a lot of my thunder. So, I'll I'll

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reiterate though a little bit and and
kind of I I first of all, I I supported

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this uh when we've discussed it in the
past up at the board level. I think um

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it was a good experiment, but uh it's
clearly uh uh uni close to unanimous if

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not unanimous that it should go back to
two uh both the uh pedestrian and

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bicycle safety committee. And again, I
would I would support your uh your idea

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of saying parks and open spaces
committee that it would encompass more.

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Um I note that we received a couple of
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Gary. Um and uh you know, my takeaway
from those emails um thank you. Uh was

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that there's a lot of work to be done
especially on the pedent bike safety um

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committee. So I I too would support
going to a uh meeting every month. You

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know, you can always cancel the
meetings. I'm a designate, you can take

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the minutes. I just think that if you're
going to really get momentum going on

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any kind of committee or commission or
board that you serve on, it's really

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helpful to be meeting monthly. And if
you don't need it, you don't need it.

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Maybe you don't meet as much during the
summer or when people are away, but I

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really I like the idea of having pet and
bike safety meet once a month. Um, so

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bottom line, I do support this. uh you
know these are priorities for the

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village and I think that separating them
into two to be more efficient to get

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more done um is a good idea and will
drive more work and um align nicely with

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» So um

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if we were to change the motion um
that we'll meet is it imperative that we

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specify
that that will meet monthly that will

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meet what do we what is required here to
to give flexibility but also keep in

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mind that we favor the monthly the
current monthly meeting path.

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» I mean I was I could try to I could take
a shot at it if you

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» that we could just say that we'll meet
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» Yeah. I I was just I I think head and
bike safety is where the monthly request

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is coming from. So I my my idea was to
make that monthly and parks parks and

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open spaces committee meet uh bimonthly
or is that the right word or once every

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» Every other month.
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would it be better to not have it if I
mean when they go to working on the

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comprehensive outdoor recreation plan if
there are times that they would like to

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meet monthly is there anything that
would if we say if we don't say this in

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this
well it would just be a draft

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» how how about for parks and open spaces
we go monthly or as as needed that gives

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them flexibility
>> we'll go

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Do you want do you want me to take a
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» Go ahead. I move to recommend that an
ordinance amendment be drafted to repeal

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the parks and public spaces committee
and create a parks commission which will

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meet every other month or as needed or
sorry let me rewind and create a parks

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and open spaces committee which will
meet every o every every other month or

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as needed and a bicycle and pedestrian
safety committee which will meet every

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month each consisting of seven members
uh each consisting of seven seven me

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seven seven members I think that ends
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» motion in a second. Any other comments
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» just so then um what would quorum be for
these committee? Would it be four?

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» I think we'd probably draft that in the
ordinance. I think we would establish

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that.
Sandy, you want

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» Andy Pendleton, 3529 North Frederick
Avenue. I'm currently chair of the

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pedestrian and bicycle safety
subcommittee. uh chair Warren and Sto

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Trusty Stokerbrand and director uh
village manager Ewald first thank you

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for service and for taking up this
issue. Um just brief comment on the

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motion is currently drafted. Um it
wouldn't be in my opinion or suggesting

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that we want to call it um parks and
open spaces. It would be parks and

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public spaces committee. Um
this has been a common like stumbling

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block. We we've been doing all doing
been doing this for years. But the idea

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is that this committee would be devoted
to improving our parks and improving our

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public spaces particularly placemaking
um at various places in the village that

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are owned by the village but aren't
necessarily um parks. Um and then we've

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been calling that other committee the
ped bike committee forever. Um, so I

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would suggest we call it the ped bike
committee uh going forward rather than

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the pedestrian and bicycle
safety committee. I wouldn't want the

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title safety to limit the role and
mission of that committee because I'm a

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firm believer that more biking, more
pedestrian activity in our village is

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crucial for lots of things. reducing
crime, increasing property value,

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increasing business prosperity. Um, so I
would suggest that part of the mission

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of the ped bike committee is not only
ensuring that our ordinances uh promote

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ped and bike safety, but also uh promote
more active transportation in the

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village. So, thank you for uh the
consideration of my uh suggestion.

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» Thank you. Any other public comment
hearing? None. I would I think both

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those recommendations make sense.
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» So I would I would alter my motion to
reference um public spaces instead of

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open cibases and refer and create the
ped bike committee instead of ped and

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bike safety.
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» I concur.
>> All right. So we have the the motion and

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a sec the altered motion and a second.
Any further discussion?

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All those in favor?
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» I motion carries two to zero.

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Next item on the agenda for the JPNL
committee is consider Class B and Class

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B licenses for Jersey Fresh LLC DBA
Pizzeria Deluso 4511 North Oakland

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Avenue.

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have anyone presenting on this today or
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Okay, we have any discuss.
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» Go ahead. I move to recommend the class
B fermented malt beverage and the class

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B into Intoxicating liquor licenses for
Jersey Fresh LLC doing business as

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Pizzeria Deluso located at 4511 North
Oakland Avenue, Shorewood, Wisconsin

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53211 to the full board for approval and
cons consideration on September 21,

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2020.
>> I will second that motion. Motion and a

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second. Have any further discussion from
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Any discussion from the public?
>> When do they open?

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» You just
>> just come to the microphone. Give your

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name and address.
>> Asking asking for my family a block and

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a half away.
>> I know. I actually

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» My anniversary is September to 16th.
>> That is not gonna happen. I'm sorry. My

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name is Kyle Toner. I am the owner and
the agent, the liquor licensed agent for

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Pizzeria Deluso. Um, my address, h yes,
133 West Monrovia in White Fishb um

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business at 4511 North. Um,
what's the question?

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» When when do you open?
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We're thinking four to six weeks as a
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» Great. Great.
>> We're all excited. We're very excited.

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» Appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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» Yeah. Yeah. So, we're we're moving
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» Thank you.
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» That's what you just heard me say?
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» I heard four to six.
>> The absolute latest.

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» I'm just I'm, you know, I'm just trying
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will be open and ready to go.
>> Thank you so much for our

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» Thank you
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» Well, we can't we can't wait to see
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» Believe me, it's been a it's been a
longer process tonight.

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» Yeah.
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» Thank you.
Motion and a second. Any further

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discussion?
All those in favor? I I opposed. Motion

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carries unanimously. Thank you.

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Last item for the JPNL
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exact agenda item here is uh consider
committee appointments.

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Opening it up to the floor for a motion
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brand.
Um I'm going to um make a motion that

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includes the names just so that when it
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» That sounds good. Um, I move to approve
Jeremy Spurgeon uh for the business

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improvement district and Liz Nelson and
Paul Roadie for the design review board

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as presented to the village board for
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» I will second
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discussion?
>> I just like to thank the clerk's office

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again for managing all these
applications. Thank you.

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» And thank you to the applicants for for
serving on these boards. We very much

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appreciate
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» Motion and a second. All those in favor?
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» I opposed. Motion carries.
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» if I just have one more thing, the one
um these volunteer appointment

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applications, the one that's submitted
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it's just it's reads easier online. I
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that as opposed to the the second format
makes a big difference when you're going

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through. Thank you.
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So, um, I can I will take a
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favor?
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» I opposed. We are adjourned at 6:18.

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» Good evening everyone. I'd like to call
the committee of the whole meeting to

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order at 6:30 p.m. Um, trustees are
present except for Trusty Ardorfer and

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Trusty Ersync.
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oh, and it's not publicly noticed. Uh,
so we have one item, we have two items.

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Um, the first one is on street parking
assessment. Um, that'll be presented by

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Captain Santiago.
So, there is a PowerPoint.

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And just for um context, is this from
the request to look at parking um from

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Trusty Kudo? Okay. So, this is the
starting place of uh looking at our

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revisiting our parking capacity and
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» Um thank you for having me. Uh one of
the reasons I'm here is I guess a couple

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of months ago, I think that's when the
conversation kind of started and there

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were some uh questions about uh some of
the parking data. We just went through a

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new system in May, so some of the stuff
it was kind of hard to assess because I

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think people weren't really comfortable
with the new system and the numbers

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didn't really make a lot of sense to us.
That has since hopefully changed a

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little bit. I mean, it's still going to
take some time to get a accurate

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reading, but we are able to provide some
data and some of the stuff that I know I

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spoke to uh Bart um was that people
wanted to know a little bit more about

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permits, how many do we have, a little
bit about on street parking capacity,

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off- streetet parking availability um
and what that looked like. daytime

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parking for purposes of how much was
available to people. I know we've done a

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couple of studies in the past, but um
hopefully I'll be able to answer some qu

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some questions and um my hope is that it
guides some um a little bit more

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understanding and then we can get some
questions as to why you're actually

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looking for me. I can get better
guidance and we can then put something

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together that you're comfortable with
getting whether it's annual every six

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months and you can actually kind of keep
a have what's going on with parking

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through the year.

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I actually printed the slides because I
figured looking back and talking might

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be a little more complicated. Um
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very familiar with. I mean Shorewood is
very densely populated with creates some

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challenges for parking. Um and that also
certain things that happen around the

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village affect it whether it's students
moving in uh this past week um whether

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it's festivals whether it's like
activity at our park it changes

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depending on what time of the year we're
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we use I use the information from the
2017 2020 study I use the information

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that I have from um basically that
initiative that we explore a couple

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years ago with curb management meter
parking some of the old as reports that

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I had uh as far back as 2021. I was able
to find some data and then obviously I

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used the data that I have now from T2
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May. So we went live in May. We really
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probably June when we are a actually
able to get some people moved to the new

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system and a lot of the problems kind of
went away at that point or they they

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lowered quite a bit.

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We can go to the second slide.
Well, I just put this slide in here.

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This is from the 2020 study because I'm
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bid section of the village and the 2020
study. These are the blocks and block or

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the streets and block faces they looked
at. And it's just sometimes you think

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you remember what it is, but when you
actually look at the picture, you

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realize, oh, there's a lot more streets
than that that we thought about. Um, so

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just a quick reminder to everyone. And
when you look at this, this is about

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onethird of the available, I guess,
streets or pavement of the village. Um,

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when you take it as a whole,
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» Well, they're actually just it's
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put them in here because some of them we
don't um actually manage anymore. Oh. So

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I was more for purposes of looking at
the picture saying, "Hey, these are the

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the plot face that they're talking about
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streetet parking, and I'm going to talk
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street and then daytime. Um, we manage
seven off street parking lots. Uh, they

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all obviously have a limited number of
available spaces and they have different

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hours and time restrictions. Some are 20
24-hour lots where you can you have to

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move your car uh once every 24 hours.
Some are you can only park from 8:00

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p.m. till 8 a.m. but you have to be out
of the lot at that time. Um some are

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only four hour time limits. So you
actually you can be in the lot you have

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your permit but you got to move every
four hours. Um

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and there's a few of them like I'm sure
you're all familiar Ligh Horse Village

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Hall and Oakland that are very high
demand and for like the Oakland North

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and even Village Hall a lot of times we
have maybe one or two spots that have

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any kind of turnover from month to
month. So they're they're people want to

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want those lots and we do get a lot a
lot of calls. So those

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not really a lot almost every well
actually every other lot other than

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these three have spots available.
So right now we have about 200 off

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street permits and there's about 263
available. Some of them people don't

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really like them as much whether it's
because they feel they're not as safe as

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the other ones, whether it's just far
from their houses depending where they

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live in the village. So, a lot of them
we might have 40 spots available, but

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only five have been used. Uh like Metro
Market is one of them. I think there's

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only five right now permits being used
at Metro Market

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» off the top of my head.
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No, it's
>> five.

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» Correct. Five permits for that lot.
I want to say that one has 25 or it's a

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significant number.
>> Is that the whole top floor that's

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available?
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.

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» So, when it comes to on street parking
permits, um, and I'm talking about both

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monthly and annual. uh about uh I want
to say three or four years ago, we allow

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people to actually buy a monthly permit
as opposed to having to go every single

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month and buying the permit for the next
month. they used to be kind of

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designated that way where there was the
April permit you know the May permit the

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June and now uh they have the option to
actually buy a recurring permit and kind

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of set it and forget it which is one of
the reasons I think when you look at the

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numbers you're going to see that some of
them have increased a little bit but a

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lot of it I believe is because of the
ease of access of the new system and how

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simple it is for people to actually go
in buy a permit enter their information

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and just kind of be done with it and to
cancel it if they ever want to

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in 2025 we between 1,000 and,00 permits
sold per month. And when you look at the

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monthly breakdown there, it's been
pretty consistent since we changed um

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how people are able to purchase permits.
Um right about that between I don't know

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870 8.90 mark. Uh for the 2026, we only
have the first couple of months of data

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because I didn't want to take May or
June since people are still trying to

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get into that. So we kind of did the a
July and August permits and that's where

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we're at right now.
I realized I have a question on for

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going back to off- streetet parking
permits. Is there any forced turnover or

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can one person hold a permit as many
times?

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» There is by the system. So this is it's
actually easier than it was in the past.

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So if somebody let's say a credit card
is declined or they don't buy the permit

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within the first five days of the month,
uh it becomes available. Oh,

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» okay. So, um, yeah,

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before they had to and it's hard, well,
actually before the permit wouldn't

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expire. Um, we would have to go in and
look and say, "Hey, these people have

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not paid." So, we either got to reach
out or we got to cancel their permits

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because now it's been two weeks and it's
been a month. There's times that we

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found some depending on some of those
lots that weren't used as often that

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people might go four months uh with the
permit that the credit card just kept

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getting declined on the first of every
month but the permit was still valid

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manual.
>> Yes. Yeah. So you would look at the

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expiration date and usually you could
tell because obviously it says payment

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hasn't been confirmed or hasn't been
made but we had to look at the list and

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say oh these are overdue by quite a bit
so we have to cancel those. And then you

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got to deal with their phone calls and
they they didn't realize the credit card

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was the CL. I mean, it was a whole
thing. So now it's just it's pretty

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quick and they're actually they can if
they have an issue with it, they can do

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it right through their website. We see
it that they're contesting basically the

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the reason for it and we can approve it.
We can say send us the information from

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your credit card. You know, we just want
to see the picture and then we can

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reinstate it. Like if you have proof
that yeah, something just it was a

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glitch. Oh, makes it much easier.
>> So, I'm sorry to get really.

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» So, if I were a person that was um
wanted an off- streetet parking space

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» in a particular lot that was full, um I
could I'd have to go on, you know, every

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first of the month to see if I was if
it's just a lottery. Like,

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» we might have an option to creating a
waiting list. Um, but right now since we

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had so much going on at the beginning,
>> we didn't want to have to deal with

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maintaining a waiting list, but it is
something that we could potentially do

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in the future, especially if we just
choose like the one lot like Oakland

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North, which is really our main one.
>> Um, not everybody uses the recurring

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permit or the recurring uh charge or
billing. So, there's always two or

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three. So, if that person were to
obviously not go on themselves on the

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first, they will lose the permit.
>> So, yeah. Okay. So, it's basically luck

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of the draw as to what permanent you
trying to get into a certain lot.

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» If you don't have one, you need somebody
to get get out of the lot. Yeah. And

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then renew the permit
>> and then you have to look at the system

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at the right time. Correct.
>> Get into a lot as opposed to us. This

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person's been waiting for two years.
They're the next in line.

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» Yeah. Because unfortunately, we we at
this point we have no idea. Um because

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we just started. So, I mean, if we were
to start a waiting list, we potentially

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could do that.
Not being critical at all, just one.

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» Oh, no. I I completely understand, but I
mean, it creates other challenges,

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right? Because now I have to notify the
person that the space is available. I

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got to try to either email them or
>> uh call them on the phone and say, "Do

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you still want it?" Because if it's been
six months, you know, maybe they don't

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want it. So, we can also the system
right now is set up to give it to them

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automatically,
>> but if it's like a student that moved

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away or your daughter that went to
college, now they don't want the permit

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and now you're stuck with a permit that
you're getting built for. It's kind of

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so there's a lot of little things that
we need to figure out before we actually

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go live with the waiting list.
>> Yeah, it's it's administration because

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everything is automated. So now it's um
it creates other challenges.

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» Okay. But we don't have a policy that
you know if you've you have you can

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renew your permit um 12 months in a row
and then you have to take a break if

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» we do not but the permits do expire at
the end of the year. So then everybody

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for that purpose at the end of the year
everybody has to kind of start over.

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» Uhhuh.
>> So they can't just keep that permit. The

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annual permits are the same way.
>> The yearly ones they have to renew in

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January.
>> Okay. But if you have

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and it gets to the end of the year,
>> it tells you.

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» Correct.
>> And then it won't become available.

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» Correct.
>> Okay. All right. I just separate

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» they have a a right of first refusal.
>> You get two separate emails that say,

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"Hey, this is coming up in a few days."
and then again a couple days before.

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» Okay.
>> And

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» thank you. That's what I was trying to
look at is if

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» if there's some um it's not like it's
camp registration and everybody's, you

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know, starts from scratch.
>> No, because we wouldn't want to do that

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because then then we have the other
problem where it happened with Ames

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where somebody would move away, forget
to turn off the recurring permit, and

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now they're like, can I get a year and a
half worth of refunds?

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» Okay.
>> It's like, no, we really can't do that.

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» So, unfortunately. So
>> um just so I can clarify, Oakland North

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is the 4,400 block of Oakland. Okay.
>> Does anyone recall why there was such a

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large increase from 21 to 26
>> on the on street overnight parking

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permits?
>> Which one? on street overnight parking

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monthly and annual went from
approximately

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you know in 2021 650 to five years later
890

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» in 2021 is when we went to AS
that was that because that was only the

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last four months of the year.
>> Mhm.

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» So they went live at the end of August.
So my guess somewhere was had to do with

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people learning how to use the system or
moving from whatever you guys the

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village had before which I think it was
called Duncan Technologies or something

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like that.
>> Okay.

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» So um it was probably an education piece
saying you have to go to this and

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eventually it went up once people
realized you know I can go into these

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permits.
>> Okay.

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» At that time we had also um created the
on street overnight permit. So the study

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was con conducted in 2019 finished in
20. We took those recommendations and

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the first thing was actually
changing the overnight and so the we

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went through the code in detail and then
it made it available so people didn't

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have the availability to buy that type
of a permit before. Mhm.

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» Um and then parking was also restricted
under the prior ordinance to specific

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blocks or people with lived in a certain
area within the scope. It was

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» okay
>> complex, but it provided

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greater equity for obtaining a parking.
>> Okay. Can I ask a question about a

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couple slides back?
>> Um looking at the map.

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» Yeah. Um, I see the breakdown is it
gives you the on street parking

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restrictions, the amount of hours
um that you're allowed to park in these

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particular areas. Do you know I mean
without someone calling to complain are

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do we ever
>> We do have somebody that works that goes

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and uh say keeps track of the cars. They
don't do it all the time obviously

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because they get called away to other
things.

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» So are we like chalking cars or what we
>> Well, you don't chalk cars anymore. It's

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uh done digitally. So it
>> that's how old I am.

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» It figures out where the the air is.
>> Yeah.

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» Mars.
>> Okay.

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» By the air.
>> I'm just wondering how often I mean if

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if we're trying to promote turnover
especially in the business there are

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time restrictions.
>> How often we're actually going in cars

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that staying in the same spot for
>> Yeah. And I can get those numbers for

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you. But like today we got a call
probably about two hours ago. Somebody

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said, "Hey, there's cars on Edgewood
that haven't moved. they're over the

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two-hour limit. So, unfortunately, the
thing people don't realize is that the

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timer starts when you call us, right? We
can't show we can't show up and just

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pick it up because you say they've been
there.

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» So, then we have to then go through and
come back a couple hours and we usually

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give them like two hours and 15 minutes.
Well,

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» okay. people
>> uh for the tire, you know, where you

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pump your air like gauge the system when
you go through with the LTR notes

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location and then where that bulb is
that you can basically that's not moves

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reading

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» a lot of data.
>> Yep. things seems so much simpler like

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wow that's that's
>> especially when you can go out and you

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know take care of it
>> okay

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» obviously the thing doesn't show on that
>> no I'm done

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» is the u res

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» congested
>> yes we're just focus

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that res
>> the southeast corner Mhm.

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» Yeah. A whole different city,
>> right?

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» Well, it's a two-hour parking basically
for the whole thing unless you have a

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permit for daytime parking.
>> Yeah.

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» Do you refer to it ever anymore? And
this is because I when you said it, I

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thought, gosh, I haven't heard the
residential congested.

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» Do we were are you in the process of
like phasing that out now? It's just

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daytime permit.
>> We just call it daytime parking. daytime

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parking permits. Now, I just wanted to
make sure I was on

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» um because we did run into and this is
>> probably a year and a half ago, maybe

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two years, but when we went to the new
system, we realized that it's really not

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fair for somebody to pay for a daytime
parking permit and then move two blocks

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down to another daytime parking area and
then get a ticket. So, you know, it's

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you're still within two restricted areas
of the village um that are under the

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same
conditions. We just call it two

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different things. So it wouldn't make a
lot of sense to give you a ticket in one

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area, not the other if you already paid
for the permit. So because usually it

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happened when somebody lives in the
resident congested area and then they

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will go to the business district and
visit a business but they were parked on

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an area that was also restricted
and now you're just trying to take it

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and try having avoid it.
So the

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code but

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it is for purposes of having a needing a
daytime parking permit which was the per

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purpose behind it and it still has a
2hour restrict throughout without a

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permit.

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I think we're on on street parking. a
couple slides forward.

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» You want me to go back
>> forward? Are we Oh, yeah. This one.

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» Okay.
>> Uh I just wanted to mention the daytime

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permits. Uh we probably had about 200
annual uh 2025 once we changed that and

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we made it a little easier because right
now the businesses are allowed to buy

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some permits for their employees uh so
that the employees don't incur that

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charge especially some of the people
that are working for lower wages. It

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didn't make a lot of sense. So, um, we
have a few like the vet clinics do it

417
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,960
for their employees. They buy like two
or three, um, and they just call us

418
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,720
directly. They tell us what their plates
are and we they get charged for the

419
00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,519
permits. So, those have increased uh, in
the last year. So, there's probably

420
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:05,919
close to 400 daytime park permits
altogether. So,

421
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:10,240
» and before that change was made, it was
about 200

422
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:14,320
» for just the um correct just daytime
because this also includes any um

423
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:18,720
village employees that are parking in
village hall during the day. Okay.

424
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:25,440
» All those are included in there.
>> They're one and the same.

425
00:32:21,679 --> 00:32:35,000
» How much do the overnight and um daytime
permits cost? The overnight is $40 per

426
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:35,000
month and the daytime is $30 for 30.

427
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,840
All right, next one.

428
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,919
These are the uh single night free
permits that we issue. I know the

429
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:53,120
numbers look crazy, but I mean it's it
is it people do use this quite a bit.

430
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:56,640
uh they're limited to only 20 per year
per license plate and obviously they can

431
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,919
do that themselves on the website. They
don't have to call it in anymore. They

432
00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:04,559
just enter the date. Uh we've gotten rid
of a lot of the issues now too because

433
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:07,760
there's a uh guideline on the website
that says you have to select tomorrow

434
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,919
even though
>> it's Tuesday night and you're selecting

435
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,600
Tuesday night. It's Wednesday at 2 am
that we look at the So that's I mean it

436
00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:19,919
probably has dropped 90% the amount of
people calling us saying I selected the

437
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,320
wrong date. Um it's it's been that part
has been phenomenal.

438
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,799
» Happened to me.
>> Yeah, it happens to everyone. I don't

439
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,840
know why it's an option. I never
understood why it's an option, but none

440
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:33,840
of the system can get rid of that.
>> Um so we issue about 150 of those per

441
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:38,399
night and those are look at only at
enforce enforcement nights of the year.

442
00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:44,080
There's there's about 244 I think the
whole year. So no holidays, no Saturday,

443
00:33:41,679 --> 00:33:47,760
Sunday nights. Um so that's how many we
issue per night.

444
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:52,320
Uh the citations for on street overnight
parking um it's usually about 10% of our

445
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:57,760
citations that we issue per year. So
we're looking at about 36 to 40 per

446
00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:02,880
night that we're what's the total
I said getting getting tired. What's the

447
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,320
total revenue? What's the we bring in
off of those tickets?

448
00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:08,960
» Oh god the revenue that's a tough one.
>> Sorry I'm making you do a lot of math.

449
00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:11,040
» What's the
>> what's the ticket? I How much does the

450
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:13,839
ticket cost?
>> 25.

451
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:18,240
» Well it changes dramatically. I mean, we
issued probably 16,000 tickets last

452
00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:23,280
year, a little more. Uh, but the
revenue, you can't just look at the $25

453
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:26,800
because after 12 days, it goes to 50.
Um, so the citation increases and we

454
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:29,919
wouldn't be able to know without looking
at the actual numbers how many went up.

455
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,760
But I want to say it's probably
$300,000.

456
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:37,280
I I think that's right around there is
what um that would Yeah, that would that

457
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:41,760
would be the math.
>> Yeah, for just citation revenue. And

458
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:44,560
that is that for is that for the is that
for the uh on on street overnight

459
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:49,040
parking or is that total?
>> That's total. Okay. Okay.

460
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,599
» So about 10% of them are uh on street
parking.

461
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,599
» So about 30 30,000.
>> Yeah.

462
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,960
So the reason I bring that up is because
I know we're talking about capacity. So

463
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,400
when we look at we can go to the next
one. When we look at the summary, when

464
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,160
we're looking at on street parking
permits that we have, and that includes

465
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:13,200
obviously the monthly, the annual, uh,
which they're about 880 per night for

466
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:19,200
the last few years, the on street free
parking permissions averaging around 150

467
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:21,920
to 155 per night. And, uh, we can assume
that obviously if you're getting a

468
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:26,000
ticket, you park on the street, that's
another 40 per night. You're looking

469
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:30,560
between right around,00 vehicles that we
can say are more than likely parked on

470
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:34,000
the street every night. When you compare
that to the numbers from the 2020

471
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:37,680
parking study, which only included the
business district block faces, we

472
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:42,480
determined that there were about almost
200

473
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:44,960
um available spots on the street and
understanding that that's about

474
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:49,359
one-third of the village, then you can
safely assume without looking at every

475
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,839
single parking spot that the number of
available spaces throughout the village

476
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:58,960
will more than double at that point. So,
we're about 15 20% occupancy for the

477
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:04,960
whole village just for on street parking
overnight. That's not lots or garages or

478
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:10,480
anything else um or daytime parking
permits. For purpose of the study, they

479
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:15,599
consider an issue when occupancy goes to
about 85% peak level uh which we never

480
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:20,000
even in the study I think 44% was the
most we ever got and it was like at 2

481
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:23,680
p.m. in the residential congested area.
So it was a very specific set of

482
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,680
circumstances that gave us that higher
rate. Other than that, we're nowhere

483
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:32,960
near um anywhere in the village.
>> I'd be curious as to how the industry

484
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:37,839
standard 85% is set. Um that's something
that's comparing like for like is that

485
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:40,800
something that's comparing um something
where it's where it's comparing more

486
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:45,680
congested areas such as downtown
Chicago? I'm just curious as to how they

487
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,240
arrive at 85% as the magic number which
considering

488
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:52,240
» I think I mean that's the study the 2020
study they actually go through their uh

489
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:58,400
logic behind it but I think it does
consider the the time of the day the

490
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,440
just the the area like the um the
density of the area.

491
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,640
» Okay. uh how fast because a lot of the
things they look at is how fast you

492
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:08,880
could turn those spots that are actually
available because once you get over 85%

493
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:13,119
of unavailable spots then you can
actually say we have an issue with

494
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:18,400
parking. Uh anything below that to them
is not really you have available parking

495
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:24,160
I guess.
And when you look at uh residential um

496
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:30,560
perception since 2016, there have been
four community service surveys and the

497
00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:34,400
most recent recent one was posted and
it's never gone below 80% of residents

498
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:39,359
saying that overnight parking in their
street is easy or somewhat easy. Um and

499
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:46,079
in the next slide that I kind of
summarize a little bit of the um the

500
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:52,480
survey for this last year
and again it's over 81% once again uh

501
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:58,400
76% also said that to find parking in
structures and lots was easy or somewhat

502
00:37:54,720 --> 00:38:03,440
easy and only 42% said that it was or
about 42% said it was easy and somewhat

503
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,839
easy to find parking during the uh
around the business district.

504
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,079
» And that was this year's number. That
was this year's numbers.

505
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:12,000
» Well, out of curiosity, do we have a
number on that

506
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:15,280
» prior survey? I'm just curious as to
>> They have not changed much. I mean,

507
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:19,040
maybe a couple percentage points in each
direction.

508
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:22,240
» So, that 42% doesn't go up when because
I know we have the

509
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:25,440
» Well, the 42% went down uh the east and
somewhat easy, but I'm assuming it has

510
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:28,320
to do with the construction because
Oakland Avenue was already under

511
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,520
construction when the survey came out.
Yeah.

512
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:34,400
» So, you know, recency bias people uh in
the last few months. Obviously, it's

513
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:37,599
difficult to find parking on Oakland,
but my guess is once it's done and you

514
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:41,040
go back, it was going to match the
numbers from the last three surveys.

515
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:43,440
» Do you happen to know what those numbers
are?

516
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,320
» Not off hand. I mean, we have them. Um,
I do have them, but not in front of me.

517
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,440
» Okay. Yeah.
>> Yeah.

518
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:54,800
» I don't recall um the numbers from this
survey, but is it safe to assume that if

519
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:59,280
42% found it very easy or somewhat easy,
then 58% found it very difficult or

520
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:03,280
somewhat difficult?
Yeah, I mean the numbers they're they're

521
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:07,839
not straightforward. Um because if you
were to add I think it wasn't somewhat

522
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:13,440
difficult. It was somewhat difficult in
the question. Um but then that number

523
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,119
was pretty big. So the very difficult
was

524
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,680
» okay.
>> Yes. Kind of.

525
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,839
» But we don't know we don't have the
breakdown of the very easy to somewhat

526
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:23,359
easy.
>> We do. I think we can look it up on

527
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,440
post.
>> I just can't remember it.

528
00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:30,720
Is is there a neutral is there a neutral
option too or is it either difficult or

529
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,920
hard or difficult or easy?
>> There was just those four.

530
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:38,280
» Okay. Answer a little more straight.
Yeah.

531
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,280
» Basic.

532
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:50,520
Well, but I mean I think Nicole has

533
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,560
» this night parking.

534
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,880
Oh, here.
>> So, excellent or good? Uh, this is there

535
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:09,240
one for the business district? I thought
there was one for

536
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,839
and if you can break down the 42% as
well, that'd be helpful. If you're

537
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,640
saying that most of it is
>> I'll just use this one. It's fine.

538
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:24,160
» Somewhat easy.
>> So, excellent and good uh was again over

539
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:27,760
80% for daytime parking
>> in the business district.

540
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,920
» This one does not say business district.
>> Okay.

541
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,079
» So, it just says daytime parking.
>> I'm looking at I'm looking for business

542
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,480
district in
>> it doesn't either way it doesn't break

543
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:39,280
it down for what was the question you
asked just a second ago? I'm looking for

544
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,800
so the last
icon you have is 42% reported it was

545
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:48,160
very easy or somewhat easy to find
parking in the business.

546
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:52,560
» I'm wondering within that portion of the
survey what the breakdown is between the

547
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:56,240
four options.
>> So if it's if it's very easy or somewhat

548
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,960
easy then it's very hard or somewhat
hard.

549
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:05,839
» Oh, here we go. Now we got thought it
was somewhere.

550
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:12,800
So very easy somewhat easy for 2026 was
uh 42%. It's 36% saying it was somewhat

551
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:17,200
difficult and 21% saying very difficult.
>> Okay,

552
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:26,480
» for this year. Now interesting enough
the 10% that it was easy went down from

553
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:31,680
2020 23 by 8%. And the very difficult
went up by 15%. From 2023. Again, I'm

554
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,000
guessing that has to do with
construction.

555
00:41:32,319 --> 00:41:35,760
» And what was very easy? What was the
number for that?

556
00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:42,160
» 10.
>> It was 18.

557
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,319
» But this one in 2026, very easy was 10%
somewhat

558
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:50,680
» 32.
>> 32.

559
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:50,680
» I'm rounding up. But yeah. Yeah.

560
00:41:51,280 --> 00:42:00,200
But it's still a clear majority for
difficult.

561
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,200
» Okay. Thank you.

562
00:42:04,319 --> 00:42:09,200
» Well, that's all I have. Um, any
questions? And I know we've went through

563
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,760
a lot of questions, but yeah.
>> So, the new software, how far along

564
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:17,520
would you say you're 80% into it? Are
you 90% in terms of using all

565
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:22,560
functionality that you're hoping for?
not necessarily starting this waiting

566
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:27,040
list but um how far along are you with
>> we are probably 100% as to where we were

567
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:30,400
at with
um there's other things that I think we

568
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:34,400
can do probably more efficiently
especially when it comes to like the

569
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:38,640
court uh how that works um with
adjudications and some of the things

570
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,240
that the judge is able to do with her
decisions but some of that stuff we're

571
00:42:40,319 --> 00:42:47,520
still kind of working through it because
sometimes you know a written um or an

572
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:51,280
oral determination doesn't really
translate to a program. So, we're trying

573
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:56,160
to figure out how that sometimes works
to make sure their ruling is follow. So,

574
00:42:54,079 --> 00:43:00,240
but so far we've been able to do almost
everything.

575
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:08,000
» Good. And so, um, how much staff is
involved in parking besides the random

576
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:10,720
patrol person that might do a parking? I
mean, we've got the two csos,

577
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:13,920
» correct?
>> And how much of your time would you say

578
00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:20,160
you do?
>> Yeah. a week

579
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:25,599
probably 10 to 15 hours
>> and then um I'm sorry the woman desk

580
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:33,040
with
>> Oh yeah. I mean I probably estimate I

581
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:37,119
don't know 10 15 phone calls a day. Um
and then obviously

582
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:42,800
» and I'm sorry I don't I I'm blanking on
>> Oh Teresa. Teresa thank you. Yeah. So,

583
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,200
how much of her job do you think is
parking?

584
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,200
» Well, you say
>> just curious.

585
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,720
» Didn't you just say 75?
>> 70. Yeah, it's it's quite a bit because

586
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,760
people coming in and
>> and you just got the new Jeep, right?

587
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:00,640
» Correct.
>> You have the other ones.

588
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,640
Is the new one fully function?
>> Yes.

589
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:11,040
» All right.
Are there any specific questions um

590
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:16,640
further questions on the data presented
or then I'll defer um to the committee

591
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:23,160
of in terms of where you want to go with
this information?

592
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,160
» More questions on the

593
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,800
» I don't have any questions on the data.
It's just I want to make sure we're

594
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:34,240
keeping tabs on
um the business district and

595
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:40,800
specifically if there are you know when
we do another survey or whatever in 27

596
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:44,480
um that we have a solid baseline through
construction because there like you said

597
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:52,800
there might be some bias obviously with
construction but once that clears up um

598
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:57,079
you know I keep an eye on it. Appreciate
it. second trustee.

599
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,640
» The other thing is we have two new
restaurants.

600
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:10,520
» I think as we all know
those restaurants will rely on

601
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:25,640
we got three.
>> It's three talking tacos. Oh,

602
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,640
which

603
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:35,760
» um we digress. So, um are you aware of
any types of um restriction, parking

604
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:40,319
restrictions that we still have in place
that

605
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:45,839
maybe are not contemporary that could
create more on street parking. So, for

606
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:51,520
example,
um, similar to how we changed overnight

607
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:55,839
parking and it made it much more
accessible. Was when we went through

608
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,839
that process, was there a place where we
stopped and said like, you know, we'll

609
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:04,640
just lift the restrictions here, but
then there are streets right next to it

610
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,880
where we could open up, you know, more
parking by changing the restriction. I

611
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:13,599
mean, I'm sure depending on who you ask,
I mean, but a lot of people really

612
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:18,000
dislike the 15minute parking or the one
hour parking um restrictions because it

613
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:21,200
limits them. Uh, and especially what
some of them are, they are, I would

614
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,760
agree, in some streets that
>> that don't necessarily make a lot of

615
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,720
sense anymore.
>> Uh, maybe business have changed there

616
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:30,319
throughout the years. I have only been
here five years, but um, I'm sure

617
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:34,800
there's places where we can be more
efficient and make it easier for people.

618
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:38,720
But when you if you park in those spaces
overnight, that restriction doesn't

619
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:44,319
apply, right? Because it's correct, just
during business hours.

620
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:49,760
» And then if we changed traffic patterns,
I know this is going outside, you know,

621
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:55,839
outside the box, but um so for example,
if we changed traffic patterns on, you

622
00:46:53,040 --> 00:47:00,000
know, Bartlett and Kramer,
um to make them one-way streets or

623
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:05,200
something, would that open up would that
create more parking? Well, without

624
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:08,800
actually doing some research, but I
guarantee anytime you change any

625
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,280
parking, whether it's direction, whether
you restrict it to one side of the

626
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:16,079
street, you're going to create some
other challenge somewhere else, whether

627
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:20,880
it's the homeowner or the school nearby
or I mean, it's going to happen because

628
00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:23,040
you're changing the way people are used
to,

629
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,839
» you know, so somebody else is getting
left out. Um,

630
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,760
» are we changing the traffic better?
>> No.

631
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,920
Okay, double checking.
>> Uh, yeah,

632
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:40,160
» make sure I didn't miss anything.
>> I thought that the um that part of this

633
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:45,200
exercise was to see if there were any
ways that we could um create more

634
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,440
parking on the street by lifting
restrictions.

635
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,160
» Gotcha.
>> I got a question. You mentioned um

636
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:55,920
getting calls from people who are
pointing out that a car has been parked

637
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:59,359
for more than two hours. Do those tend
to be in residential or is that in

638
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,680
commercial areas like on Oakland and
Capitol? Uh

639
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:06,000
» usually residential.
>> Okay. Uh Edgewood is the one we get

640
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,200
quite a few. Um and we always get them
obviously at the beginning of the year,

641
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,400
the school year because of the students.
They don't know the rules. They don't

642
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:15,200
even realize they're in Sherwood. So it
takes a little bit of time for them to

643
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,800
get educated and realize, oh, I got to
move my car. Can't just be here for the

644
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,800
whole day.
And then are there, and again, this

645
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:29,200
might not be in the police department,
but um the lots that we don't manage

646
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:34,240
anymore. Um are can people still get
permits like in Lake Bluff, can they get

647
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:38,400
a permit from the school? Or if a
private business has parking spots that

648
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:43,440
are open overnight, is there anything
barring that business from uh permitting

649
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,480
their own lot?
>> That I don't know.

650
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:52,240
» No, not that I'm aware.
>> Yeah. So like for example if there's a

651
00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:57,359
wedding event the atrium
>> I mean many times I see what really has

652
00:48:54,720 --> 00:49:00,240
to people going to a wedding reception
at at

653
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:04,160
» water.
Right.

654
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:08,400
Yeah. So that's temporary like overflow
parking but to permit like to get an

655
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:11,280
off- streetet overnight parking permit
from the school district for example.

656
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:14,480
Um,
>> after having done this for five years,

657
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:19,119
my guess is nobody wants the headache
and the time that it takes to actually

658
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,240
manage a parking parking lot.
>> Well, I know we used to manage the Lake

659
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:29,280
Bluff parking lot.
>> Um, yeah, but I was thinking more like

660
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Shorewood Chiropractic has, you know,
eight or 10 spots and they don't have

661
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:39,520
nighttime businesses there, so they
could potentially permit those.

662
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,240
» Yeah. Usually the issue is the morning.
>> Mhm. you know, trying to get those

663
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,200
vehicles out of the lot
>> by the time your business opens.

664
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:51,520
» All right. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.

665
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:58,680
» All right. We'll close that item and
move on to the um

666
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:58,680
salary survey results.

667
00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:08,319
» Thank you.
>> All right. So um every two years the

668
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:12,160
village performs a salary survey just to
make sure that we are in line with

669
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:19,200
neighboring communities and with the
market. Um so this year in May I sent

670
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:22,800
out a request to the same nine
communities that we used in the 2024

671
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:28,319
survey and then also added in the
Northshore communities requesting their

672
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:32,720
salary data. In June, I started to
receive some of that data and compiling

673
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:37,200
it. And then in July and August was when
we began meeting with department heads

674
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:43,440
and the finance team to kind of go over
what data we received and um what we

675
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:50,079
could potentially do with that. And in
our findings, there were 11 positions

676
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:55,359
that were out of market range. Those are
the village manager, the chief of

677
00:50:51,760 --> 00:51:01,119
police, our two captains, the DPW
superintendent, village clerk, um one of

678
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:06,319
our equipment operators, both of our
utility leads, the utility operator one

679
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:13,040
position and our administrative
assistant in DPW.

680
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:18,640
And so attached to um the memo was the
data that we found. And I gave you two

681
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:24,800
options in there to so you can kind of
um analyze it either way. So what you

682
00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:28,319
see at the top is what the salaries
would be for the proposed freights which

683
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:32,160
would bring them all at least to
average. And then also looking at where

684
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:36,400
they're at in the midpoint and kind of
manipulating that data with that. And

685
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:43,520
then the one on the bottom of the page
would be strictly if these positions

686
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:49,599
only received the 3% cola. Um so if we
were to move forward with the um

687
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:55,880
proposed numbers of bringing them up
into the market value then it would be

688
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:55,880
an additional $26,786.95

689
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:03,640
on top of what the 3% cola would be for
the village.

690
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:11,359
» Thank you. And I was um just wanted to
confirm the last salary adjustment that

691
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:18,760
we did last year. None of these
positions were in that group, right?

692
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:18,760
» I don't believe so

693
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:27,280
» two years ago.
>> Was it two years ago? It feels like

694
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:30,319
» I don't know.
>> You have a list of what municipalities

695
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:36,319
you checked?
>> Yes. Um I can read them off to you now,

696
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:44,800
but I also can send it to you. So we did
um Bayside, Brown Deere, Cedarberg, Fox

697
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:51,760
Point, Glendale, Greenale, Greenfield,
Meccoan, Middleton, Milwaukee, Manona,

698
00:52:48,400 --> 00:53:00,480
Port Washington, Sussex, Wawaossa, West
Alice, and Whitefish Bay.

699
00:52:55,359 --> 00:53:02,720
» Okay. Can you send over um the break the
data that used the breakdown that you

700
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,000
used
>> from those municipalities to get to

701
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:10,880
these numbers?
>> Yes.

702
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:18,240
» Just to see if Milwaukee is wildly high
>> scale or something like that.

703
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:22,079
» And we did um per position depending on
their job description, how big the

704
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:26,480
municipality was. There were some where
we did take out their data um and kind

705
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:31,119
of
only base it on ones that really fit the

706
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:36,559
position that we have here. Sure.
>> Um so for example, the village clerk,

707
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:40,079
there were um positions that they were
clerk treasurers and ours is not. So

708
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:44,000
those were not considered in the data
with the village clerk. Um so you will

709
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,599
see that in the data as well. If it has
a missing number, it's because it was

710
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,119
taken out for that reason. But I can
share that with you so you can look at

711
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,160
it.
>> Yeah, I would appreciate it.

712
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,800
Yes.
>> And so then to figure out the total pay,

713
00:53:54,160 --> 00:54:00,400
you take the rate times 40 time 52,
right?

714
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:04,680
» Yes. To get and then this is just pay
that no benefit.

715
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,680
» Mhm.

716
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:14,880
» Okay. And is there anything particular
you need from us tonight?

717
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:19,760
» Um no, this is just to analyze the data
and then um no motion required. it would

718
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:24,480
be brought to you in the budget and then
you would be able to make your decision

719
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:29,040
at that point.
>> And so will um

720
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,520
will you bring us a budget with these
numbers in and it's up to us to take

721
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,680
them out?
>> Yes. Okay.

722
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:37,119
» And then I'll get you all of the
supporting data ahead of time as well.

723
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,319
» All right. Thank you very much.
>> So for clarity, the budget will include

724
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:44,640
the
>> Yes. It'll like the market adjustment.

725
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:49,760
» Yeah, the market.
>> So it'll include the cola Plus for this

726
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,839
group
the

727
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:58,480
» Yes.
>> Yes. And just to clarify um the proposed

728
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:02,160
numbers there's not going to be a 3%
cola on top of that number. So that

729
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:07,760
would be theirs and then the rest of the
staff would strictly be getting the 3%

730
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:10,760
cola. for the proposed and chart.
>> Yes.

731
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:17,640
» And would we assume that we'd be done
these?

732
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,599
» Yes, we would look at it again in two
years.

733
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:27,599
» Thank you.
>> Yeah. Thank you very much.

734
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:31,040
» Thank you.
>> All right. That concludes our second

735
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,280
agenda item. And so with that, I would
take a motion to adjurnn.

736
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:38,640
» Move to adjurnn.
>> Second. Uh motion by Trusty Kudo, second

737
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:45,559
by Trusty Warren. All those in favor?
>> I.

738
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:45,559
» We stand adjourned at 7:12 p.m.

739
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,720
» So I'm really ready to go tonight. We
just

740
00:55:54,559 --> 00:56:02,880
Good evening everyone. I'd like to call
the meeting of the village board uh to

741
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:08,079
order. Um, all trustees are present
except for trustee Ersync who is excused

742
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:12,480
and then trustee Arnover is joining us
virtually.

743
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:16,960
Everyone else is in person. Has this
meeting been publicly noticed?

744
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:21,760
» This meeting has been uh properly
noticed and posted.

745
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:29,799
» Thank you. Item four, we have one
special order of business this evening.

746
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:29,799
the 2025 audit um presented by Sikitch.

747
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:36,960
» Hi there. Can you hear me? Okay.
>> Yes.

748
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:42,240
» Good evening everyone. Uh my name is
Kellen Ali. I'm a director at Sikage. Uh

749
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:47,280
on behalf of Sikage, uh thanks for
inviting me to present the December

750
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:53,200
31st, 2025 audit for the village of
Shorewood. Uh as part of our audit, we

751
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:57,599
issued five total reports. We issued the
annual financial report, the uh

752
00:56:56,079 --> 00:57:03,280
auditor's communication to the board of
trustees and three TID reports. Um I'm

753
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:09,599
going to cover just some brief high
highle highlights of the annual

754
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:13,359
financial report. Um within the annual
financial report is our opinion on the

755
00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:18,240
financial statements which is the
independent auditor's report. Uh when we

756
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:22,640
issue a opinion on the financial
statements we need to follow two sets of

757
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:27,119
standards. We set we follow standards
set by the AICPA which is the American

758
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:33,200
Institute of Certified Public
Accountants. Uh the ASICPA uh tells us

759
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:37,359
the procedures that we need to uh
perform when we're conducting our audit.

760
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:41,440
And then we follow standards set by
Gazsby which is the governmental

761
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:46,079
accounting standards board. And Gazsby
sets the rules for reporting for local

762
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:50,240
governments such as the village. I'm
pleased to present an unmodified

763
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:53,839
opinion. Uh that's also referred to as a
clean opinion. That's the highest level

764
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:59,920
of assurance that we can provide on the
district's uh financial statements or on

765
00:57:56,079 --> 00:58:03,359
the village's financial statements.
Um following the independent auditors

766
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:09,040
report is the management's discussion
analysis. MDNA is prepared by

767
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:13,359
management. Um it's a it's a highle
executive summary of the financial

768
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:17,680
statements. It also includes comparative
data. Um, and Sikage reviews this to

769
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:21,200
make sure it material aligns with the
basic financial statements. If you're

770
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:24,000
going to read one area in the report, we
highly recommend reading the MDNA as

771
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:30,160
it's going to provide you with that
additional analysis.

772
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:35,520
The basic financial statements, um, you
know, just some high some key updates

773
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:40,240
within the the financial from a
financial result standpoint. um

774
00:58:37,359 --> 00:58:45,200
governmental activities which is the the
villages tax supported funds were

775
00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:50,480
overall up 4.7 million in the current
year or 23.7%.

776
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:55,119
And had an ending net position of 24.4
million. Um that ending net position is

777
00:58:53,040 --> 00:59:02,400
broken into three categories.
Unrestricted net position of 204,000,

778
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:09,200
restricted net position of 15.9 million
and net invested in capital assets.

779
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:13,599
uh business type activities which is the
villages water, sewer, utility and

780
00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:20,799
parking funds had an ending net position
of 17.7 million and net position in the

781
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:25,040
business type activities was up 45,000
over the prior year.

782
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:30,880
Uh the vill's governmental funds
reported a total ending fund balance of

783
00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:37,440
28.8 million. That's up about 6.2
million from the prior year.

784
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:43,359
Uh the general fund which is the main
operating fund of the village uh had an

785
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:48,480
ending net position of 8.3 million
nearly all of which is unassigned or

786
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:54,720
unrestricted. Uh that represents about
62% of current year um current year

787
00:59:53,119 --> 01:00:00,000
expenditures and represents a health
reserve and is in line with the villages

788
00:59:56,799 --> 01:00:06,240
established fund balance policy.
Uh within our board report, we also did

789
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:10,480
not uh note any material weaknesses or
significant deficiencies as part of this

790
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:15,599
year's audit.
Um with that, I I'd like to, you know,

791
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:18,880
say thank you to village staff and and
everybody that participates in the audit

792
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:23,680
process. There's a lot of work that goes
into the the annual audit process, and

793
01:00:21,359 --> 01:00:29,359
we we surely thank you every everyone
for their cooperation. Um, and I'd be

794
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:33,440
happy to answer any questions that the
board has.

795
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:38,799
» All right. Thank you very much for your
presentation, um, and your hard work

796
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:44,359
and, uh, attention to detail.
Um, are there any questions, uh, from

797
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,359
the board?

798
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:54,319
Uh this just a general comment about um
I know one of the concerns that we have

799
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:58,640
about our finances is our our debt and
I'm just wondering I was looking at um

800
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:05,440
and you can tell me if there's a better
way to look at this um page 479 of our

801
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:12,799
packet we have total liabilities of 72
million and total assets and deferred

802
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:18,160
outflow of resources 134 million. So is
it fair to say that

803
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:25,839
if you're looking at it that way, assets
versus liabilities, we have um

804
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:30,839
you know that level of debt.
At what point would that start to be a

805
01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:30,839
concern?

806
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:40,240
» So one one area where I you know I I
point you to is is your is your fund

807
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:46,960
balance. um a as that's going to be kind
of your um your gauge to your total

808
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:52,720
assets less your liabilities and
specifically within your governmental

809
01:01:49,040 --> 01:02:04,559
activities. Um this year there was a uh
uh in the prior year there was a deficit

810
01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:09,280
balance in um in for the um unrestricted
um fund balance this year. That was a a

811
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:14,960
$24,000
positive. Um,

812
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:20,960
and your net invested in C capital asset
is going to represent what

813
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:24,640
all the district's capital assets,
infrastructure,

814
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:30,880
uh, less the debt that was used to
acquire them. So, I think that using the

815
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:35,599
the net position and and fund balance
metrics are good good indicators of of

816
01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:39,200
of the the the health of the the
village.

817
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:44,799
Keeping in mind that we can't really
sell well we can sell some assets.

818
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,799
Thank you.
>> Yeah.

819
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,079
» Anyone else?

820
01:02:56,559 --> 01:03:03,280
» All right. Well, that concludes I I
think we're all happy with the clean

821
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:07,280
audit and uh not a lot of findings to
talk about. So, uh that's a good one.

822
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:12,000
So, we'll say good night for this
evening and and until next year.

823
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:14,319
» Thank you very much. Have a great
evening, everyone.

824
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,599
» Thank you.
>> Yep.

825
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:21,119
» Moving on to the consent agenda. Um, is
there a motion to pro to approve the

826
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:25,039
consent agenda?
>> Move to approve.

827
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:30,720
» Second.
>> Motion by Trusty Kudo, seconded by

828
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:38,960
Trustee uh McGovern. Um, any discussion?
>> Yes. like to pull um item B is in Betty

829
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:43,200
» 5B.
Any further discussion?

830
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:47,359
All those in favor of the consent agenda
with the exception of 5B say I.

831
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,799
» I.
>> Any opposed?

832
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:58,240
» Yes, sir.
>> Um motion carries.

833
01:03:54,079 --> 01:04:03,359
Moving on to um items removed from the
consent agenda. 5B consider regular

834
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:07,599
village board minutes August 3rd 2026.
Trusty Stokeand.

835
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:15,200
» Thank you. I just wanted to um add some
clarification on item 9B is in Donna.

836
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:19,599
New business um consider atwater beach
lifeguard coverage expansion. Uh the

837
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:24,400
sentence says trustee Stoker brand
requested that the cost analysis also

838
01:04:21,839 --> 01:04:29,599
include an option to improve the
geographic footprint.

839
01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:35,359
And I just would like to add to possibly
continue to offer a paddle sport launch

840
01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:38,839
area. That was my concern that we'd see
if we could still

841
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:47,480
continue to offer a paddle sport launch
area and then continue and suggested

842
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:47,480
exploring potential funding sources.

843
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:58,720
» Okay. Any objections?
>> Move to approve.

844
01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:03,200
» I just didn't know if they're sure. Uh,
you can move to approve.

845
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:06,559
» Okay.
>> Second. Second. Catch you off.

846
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:12,160
» Motion by Trusty Stoker and seconded by
Trusty Warren. Any further discussion?

847
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:15,599
» Hearing none. All those in favor say I.
>> I. I.

848
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:20,480
» Any.
>> Uh, motion carries. That concludes item

849
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:24,400
six. We have no public hearings this
evening. Are there any citizens to be

850
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:27,400
heard? This is for matters not on the
agenda.

851
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:37,359
All right. Hearing and seeing none,
we'll close item eight and move to new

852
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:44,400
business. 9A, consider ordinance 3090,
modifications to village code 466-24,

853
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:50,839
streets and sidewalks.
So, this comes to us from was it the

854
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,839
public works committee?

855
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:57,280
» Yes.
>> Okay.

856
01:05:54,240 --> 01:06:04,880
and director Butch is also online.
>> Okay. Um,

857
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:07,039
so sorry, I'm trying to change.
>> Yeah,

858
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:11,760
» it's more of a point of information. I
mean, I support this. Um,

859
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,240
um, think this is an improvement of the
code. Is this something that's just

860
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:18,240
being driven by making our code
consistent with other municipalities or

861
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:21,200
is it Can I ask a question?
>> You can ask a question. Sure. or or is

862
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,599
it something where we're seeing more
damage to um village trees, village

863
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:29,839
shrubbery, things like that? I'm just
I'm just curious.

864
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:36,079
» Director Butchlick, can you tell us the
um the reason for the code update now?

865
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:40,000
» Um sure. We have had instances in the
past and actually this has been kind of

866
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:45,839
on my housekeeping list for a little
while. Um, coincidentally,

867
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:50,720
in the time that we started this process
and went in front of the public works

868
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:55,200
committee, we've had three separate
instances of damage to public property.

869
01:06:53,680 --> 01:07:01,119
You're aware of the nature preserve
issue, I believe. Um, we have also had

870
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:06,319
two separate instances
just in the last

871
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:12,480
four to six weeks of residents removing
the street trees in front of their home.

872
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:20,720
Is it um cutting them down?
>> Yes, cutting them down.

873
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:26,000
Um and so um you know, unfortunately, no
code language is going to undo those

874
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:32,880
actions, but certainly
our goal is to make those make that

875
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:37,200
language much clearer. um and and
perhaps send a message that you know

876
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:42,119
that's public property and that type
those types of actions have

877
01:07:39,119 --> 01:07:42,119
consequences.

878
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:47,280
» Thank you.
>> I would add as well uh just the other

879
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:51,039
day I was walking around my neighborhood
and one one of my neighbors stopped me

880
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:54,160
and said that she had seen somebody
digging plants out of one of the

881
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:57,599
bioailes on Wilson Drive.
>> Oh wow.

882
01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,799
» To just take them home as to keep them
as their own plants. So, I think, you

883
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:04,799
know, this is something I'm going to
support and I think we should do some

884
01:08:02,319 --> 01:08:09,920
more public education on, you know, this
is this is village property. We've

885
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:15,319
increased the the fines and, you know,
that it's we want to discourage that

886
01:08:12,319 --> 01:08:15,319
behavior.

887
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:23,799
» Yeah. Thank you for bringing it to our
attention. Happy to support. Is there a

888
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:23,799
motion?

889
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:31,520
I can move approval of ordinance 3090,
an ordinance repealing and replacing

890
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:35,440
village code 466-24
regulating damage to flowers, trees, or

891
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:38,480
other plants on any public way or
property.

892
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:43,199
» Second.
>> Motion by Trusty Cudo, seconded by

893
01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:48,400
Trusty McGovern. Any discussion? Just to
clarify then the the new business says

894
01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:52,279
streets and sidewalk
but what we're doing is

895
01:08:52,319 --> 01:09:00,040
flowers right
>> yeah it's correct on the memo

896
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,040
» okay

897
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:06,600
» I believe streets and sidewalks is the
name of the larger code chapter

898
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:14,319
» thank you um with no further discussion
this will be a roll call vote

899
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:19,199
Trusty Kudo.
>> Yes.

900
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,279
» Trusty Ander.
>> Hi.

901
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,199
» Oakran.
>> Hi.

902
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,719
» Trusty McGovern.
>> Hi.

903
01:09:23,759 --> 01:09:26,319
» Trusty Warren.
>> Hi.

904
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:31,359
» President McKay.
>> I.

905
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:37,279
» Motion carries 6.
>> Thank you. Uh moving to new by new new

906
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:40,719
business 9B. Um consider resolution
2026-11

907
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:47,359
amendment to municipal ordinance
violation deposit schedule. Um this

908
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:53,839
comes to us from our municipal judge uh
Kercher. Um and uh the memo is um

909
01:09:52,319 --> 01:10:00,040
provided for us. It's pretty
straightforward. Uh but the judge is

910
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,040
here to entertain any questions

911
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:08,719
» and if there's judge
>> well done. So with that I would

912
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:13,120
» some
>> I would entertain a motion to approve.

913
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:16,159
» I'll move to approve.
>> I'll second.

914
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:21,600
» Okay. Motion by Trusty Kudo, seconded by
Trusty Warren. Um any discussion?

915
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:28,040
All those in favor say I.
>> I. Oh, this will be a roll call vote.

916
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,040
Apologies.

917
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,880
» Ander,

918
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,120
» you're muted, Jim.

919
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,600
» I
>> trusty Storan.

920
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,040
» Hi.
>> Trusty Kudo.

921
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,880
» Yep.
>> Trusty McGovern.

922
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,280
» Hi.
>> President McCay.

923
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,040
» I trusty Warren.
>> I motion carries 6.

924
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:52,239
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

925
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:56,239
» Thank you.
It probably took you longer to get here

926
01:10:53,840 --> 01:11:02,159
than that.
Um, all right. That

927
01:10:59,679 --> 01:11:06,000
concludes
Whoop. Hold on. That concludes new

928
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:11,120
business. Correct.
Switching back to my agenda. Um, and now

929
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:16,960
we have reports of village officials.
Um,

930
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:21,520
I think my only item is uh linked here
are the minutes from the Northshore Fire

931
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:28,239
Department board meeting from August
11th. Uh the September meeting has been

932
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:35,840
changed to September 29th um where the
chief is hoping to have the numbers for

933
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:42,400
um benefits increases well for benefits
and premiums things like that um so that

934
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:47,040
we can have final numbers for the budget
and then that'll be coming forward to us

935
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:52,960
for review.
Um I don't believe I have any other

936
01:11:48,719 --> 01:11:58,400
reports. So village trustees
Yes, I had a question about the um the

937
01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:03,920
Northshore Fire
emails.

938
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:10,000
Are there really are things in motion to
consider a possible merger

939
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:15,520
or I mean that would
>> No.

940
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:22,320
» Okay. So um there the budget um was
presented and this is the first year

941
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:28,880
where there is a deficit that um is not
easily addressed um by reserves or or

942
01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:34,800
other revenue coming in or onetime res
revenues. And so, um, we're going to

943
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:40,400
address this budget, but then for moving
forward, um, he just put it on the table

944
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:45,280
that the board may want to have a
conversation about longer term

945
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:49,760
strategies. Um, and so that's where some
more significant policy decisions would

946
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:55,120
come through come in. Um, and that's
something that the board is going to

947
01:12:51,760 --> 01:13:00,640
engage in some strategic planning.
because the other thing that was um

948
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:07,199
noteworthy was there seems to be this
push to add

949
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:13,120
um and I'm just wondering if obviously
they're discussing possibly not adding

950
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:18,239
the that's I believe it was seven
equipment

951
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:21,040
what's the impetus for need the
adding

952
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:28,239
if you're having trouble with your
budget what's the big push for adding

953
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:33,679
Well, it's his job is to present um
service levels and and then budget. So,

954
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:38,440
they're kind of two parallel discussions
and they'll come to a head.

955
01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:48,000
So, not taking it lightly. I'm just not
prepared to report on it since it is a

956
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:53,640
report, but we could definitely schedule
um a presentation from the chief

957
01:13:53,679 --> 01:13:59,520
does.
>> Yeah, with the budget, but if there's

958
01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:04,560
something in addition, you know, where
um the board is wanting something prior

959
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:11,400
to that or a different type of update or
more information as part of the Friday

960
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,400
update, we can accommodate that as well.

961
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:19,080
All right. Any other reports of village
officials?

962
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,679
village manager.

963
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:34,080
» Yes. Three items tonight. One was a a
brief update on um

964
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:37,840
just our a review of the hovered lots in
the city of Glendale and the

965
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:44,199
availability we've had to get
information uh regarding those sites. Um

966
01:14:53,600 --> 01:15:01,920
We have communicated with Wii energies
and they have

967
01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:08,719
relayed that they'll be providing us
with information regarding utilities on

968
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:14,080
the site and by or by November. Um and
we're also in communication with UWM.

969
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:19,120
however, still um waiting for their
specific recommendations on next steps

970
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:25,840
as it relates to um vacation of the
right of way. Um they have voiced their

971
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:32,320
amendable
um attitude towards working with us. Um

972
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:40,400
so, but we need to Oh, thank
uh but we will wait to hear their final

973
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:44,719
information.
So we're still on

974
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:49,679
in the meantime you know one of the
things that we have is initially you

975
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:55,600
know we are looking at the site either
for a full facility or for a transfer

976
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:59,520
station um a transfer station the
berento study was estimated about

977
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:03,040
750,000
um for the type of replacement in kind

978
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:08,800
of the system that we have right now
which is open air

979
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:13,920
um in order to put a transfer station on
this site Glendale bill is requiring

980
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:20,880
that it be enclosed and four-sided um
which increases the costs from an

981
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:24,960
estimated 3.6 to 4.4 million. Um Bay is
currently a partial owner of the current

982
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:28,320
transfer station and has advised that
they would not be interested in making a

983
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:35,600
capital investment for an enclosed
station. Um, and so as we,

984
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:43,679
you know, look at this property and and
possibilities of what could be placed

985
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:49,280
there, um, we'll definitely want to
prioritize alternative service models.

986
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:54,239
Um, in light of the increased
expenditures um, that would c come with

987
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:59,120
a forsighted.
Um, so I'll be back after the budget

988
01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:03,199
concludes. We'll be coming back to the
board and we'll be laying out some

989
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:08,400
options and really getting the the board
to weigh in on what if anything you'd

990
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:13,360
like me to continue exploring. um or if
you'd like to continue to pursue the

991
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:20,800
foresighted station
if this if it's amendable to the site

992
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:27,040
and we energies comes back with um
estimates that are closer in line to

993
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:33,120
what we we believe they will be. Um so
we'll be back at it having that

994
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:38,560
discussion. the um a review of services
was not something that we anticipated at

995
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:43,440
this point, but I want to definitely
provide the board with an option to do

996
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:46,880
that. And if you so choose, happy to you
to proceed and take a look at those

997
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:52,719
alternatives and lay out a schedule for
that. Um if you don't, that's okay, too.

998
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:57,199
Um, but I I I definitely think that
we'll want to have a check-in before we

999
01:17:54,400 --> 01:18:05,000
take a next conceptual step um with
evaluating the site either be for a

1000
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:05,000
transfer station or for future facility

1001
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:14,159
» question. So Rebecca, the way I'm
reading the memo, um, effectively Hubard

1002
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:17,600
has eliminated
yard,

1003
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,840
we'd run into the same problems that
running into

1004
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:28,400
Yes, unless UWM would actually give us
some additional land from their parcel,

1005
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:31,840
but that I think would be um
challenging.

1006
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:35,320
» Trying to figure out how we kind of
narrow the app.

1007
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:44,960
» But give do you mean make available?
>> Correct. And so,

1008
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:51,159
» oh no, go ahead. Um so
vacation of the street I thought

1009
01:18:53,440 --> 01:19:04,000
you're in that problem
um for a facility

1010
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:08,239
for for a facility for a transfer
station um we would still want the

1011
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:13,040
rightway from the road and Glendale's
amendable to vacating that roadway. Um

1012
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:17,360
what we need to know from UWM is that
they'd be amendable to providing us that

1013
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:23,280
portion of the right way. So under state
statute when rightaway is vacated, it

1014
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:26,960
goes to splits in half to the adjacent
property.

1015
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:30,960
though we've asked UWM if we could have
their portion that would have been

1016
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:34,880
provided to them because be it not for
our request to the city of or our

1017
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:38,480
potential request to the city of
Glendale, they would not be vacating the

1018
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:46,400
roadway.
>> And the alley side of the is split

1019
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:53,719
between city of Milwaukee, city of
>> correct.

1020
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:53,719
» So that would stay the same if we

1021
01:19:54,400 --> 01:20:00,199
That would be Flynnale
Milwaukee

1022
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:13,679
unknown be deter.
>> Yeah, I believe it to be determined.

1023
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:19,120
I mean, it would still technically be
located in the city of Glendale because

1024
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:24,480
we would be in the city of Glendale uh
as as

1025
01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:28,080
» it could be a term of an agreement
hasn't been negotiated.

1026
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:30,960
» East side
>> if

1027
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:35,040
» Yes.
and the Wii energy

1028
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:40,719
um
reviewing its if we they need to do

1029
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:46,400
something with their
abilities. Would we bear that

1030
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:49,760
or is that
>> that's one of the reasons why we've

1031
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:53,280
requested them to review the site and
provide an estimate. If we would need to

1032
01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:57,840
move utilities on the site, we've asked
them to review each one to see what an

1033
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:02,320
estimated cost would be. And yes, it is
typically the person requesting the move

1034
01:20:59,679 --> 01:21:08,400
to move the utility, pay bear the cost
of moving the utility.

1035
01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:14,480
» A storm sewer that be moved
>> there. There is a storm sewer on the on

1036
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:18,960
the site. Those weren't from a an
engineering standpoint, things that

1037
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:23,760
couldn't be otherwise moved or prepared
for. I think the larger expenses were

1038
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:29,000
the the Wii Energies facilities in
general because those costs can be

1039
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:29,000
significantly higher.

1040
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:37,440
» When we're talking about potentially
having to deal with EW systems on the

1041
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:42,239
portion of the vacated rightway,
>> do we have do you feel like you have a

1042
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:46,080
decent understanding of the timeline of
what that would be? So it you know what

1043
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:50,400
I mean? Like it's one thing to say it's
in their court. It's another thing to

1044
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:55,760
say it's in their court and it takes
three months, six months, three years,

1045
01:21:52,880 --> 01:22:00,719
five years. Like I don't know what that
process is. Um I don't know if it is it

1046
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:03,679
just a UWM
>> for that information.

1047
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:07,280
» Okay.
>> Cuz I imagine if it goes back to the

1048
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:11,679
university then it be it's a state
property and

1049
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:16,320
» could take some time.
Okay. Thank you. Can you let us know

1050
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:19,600
when you have that answer when they
provide it?

1051
01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:24,239
» Absolutely.
So, I'll close this as it is a report. I

1052
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:28,080
don't want to go outside of scope. Um,
but I heard just questions, not

1053
01:22:26,719 --> 01:22:33,360
discussion.
>> There's one final. Keeping a transfer

1054
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:37,520
station
as we have it now open, would we be

1055
01:22:35,679 --> 01:22:44,400
grandfathered
if we kept it or say it open? I would I

1056
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:49,880
would direct that as a future question.
Does because we're it's not part of the

1057
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,880
report.

1058
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:52,960
» Did Did you Did you note that future
question?

1059
01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:57,000
» Yes.
>> Yes. Okay.

1060
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,000
» Thank you.

1061
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:01,120
» All right. With that, we'll close. Oh, I
think there's another village.

1062
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,159
» Two more items.
>> Two more items. just wanted to provide

1063
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:08,880
you with the syllabus and some of the
context for the communication class that

1064
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:12,480
we'll be working with from UWM um
regarding the villages communications

1065
01:23:10,639 --> 01:23:16,560
and how we can meet people where they're
at. So, thank it was probably too much

1066
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:20,239
information to provide you, but I
thought I wanted to share um some

1067
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:25,040
context of the class that we'll be
working with. Um we're excited to get

1068
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:28,760
started with them.
>> And so, what's the endgame?

1069
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:37,280
So there um one of the attachments
within the packet it calls for a small

1070
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:42,480
team of four to six students who's going
to be partnered with us to review um

1071
01:23:40,719 --> 01:23:47,120
learn how we're communicating our
communication processes in place and

1072
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:53,679
then to also provide some
recommendations and how we can move

1073
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:59,360
forward with communications. Um
they're going to provide us with

1074
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:04,320
feedback and um at the end pro provide
us with a presentation and an executive

1075
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:08,880
summary of their findings
um so that we can hopefully improve on

1076
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:14,639
some of the good communication habits
that we have so far.

1077
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:21,920
» Include various types for example for
which they

1078
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:26,760
um I guess the thing that um seems most
urgent to me is village.

1079
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:33,040
» So, we have started on that redoing the
website.

1080
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,440
» Yep. You're actually going to be getting
an update from me on that Friday.

1081
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:39,199
» Okay.
>> Um to for you to weigh in with your

1082
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:44,040
input. I asked Nicole if we could get
some of your

1083
01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:44,040
» We didn't budget.

1084
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:53,600
» We're in the process of updating it now.
>> Oh, by yourself? with Civic Plus.

1085
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:56,600
» Oh,
>> correct.

1086
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:01,320
» And no, is that in the

1087
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,520
We're getting a new village website,

1088
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:24,159
» correct? It was work scheduled for 2020.
>> Okay. And so what's the ETA on?

1089
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:28,800
» Um well, you're going to get an
opportunity to provide input on it and

1090
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:34,480
see what they have come up with at this
point. And so, you know, we're looking

1091
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:40,880
forward and receiving your feedback and
u improving it from there.

1092
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:45,440
» Let Yes, I think we're getting outside
of the scope of the report. if we could

1093
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:49,440
move on to the grace period during the
SNA paint and implementation.

1094
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:54,080
» Sure. Just wanted to make you aware that
um in our communication with the PSC,

1095
01:25:52,000 --> 01:26:00,000
you know, we've talked through with them
the transition to the BSNA software and

1096
01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:04,000
that's been taking um a considerable
amount of all of our time. It's a

1097
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:08,480
heavier lift and we're on Brack and
we're making progress, but we also

1098
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:12,480
recognize that um with having people
sign up for all new accounts, there

1099
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:17,760
could potentially be a lag. And so we
explored to them what would be within

1100
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:20,800
our purview for purposes of providing or
you know an extension in that time

1101
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:26,239
period to make sure that we get people
signed up within the new date. So

1102
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:31,840
outlined before you is just how we will
proceed um with that temporary grace

1103
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:37,280
period um
based on our discussions with the PSC.

1104
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:45,040
» What's BSNA?
Um, BSNA is our the payment software,

1105
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:49,520
» the like the new utility bill,
>> correct?

1106
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:54,080
» There's still the popup on the side, but
>> we've updated that. So, BSNA does more

1107
01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:57,440
than just the payments that are being
taken in, but if you'll recall from the

1108
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:03,600
credit card discussion, we needed to
switch vendors in order to be able to

1109
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:07,920
charge the um this isn't occurring for
utility bills specifically. um but in

1110
01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:13,600
all other payments to charge those
credit card fees, there was a strategic

1111
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:18,320
decision policy that was made to charge
those fees. So to do that, we needed to

1112
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:22,159
switch vendors. Um it was also time was
ripe to kind of take a look at those

1113
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:27,760
different proposals and they um had the
most cost effective um approach. But

1114
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:32,560
what it did require is that all people
who were signed up for automatic billing

1115
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:39,679
and getting their utility bills by email
had to physically re-register through a

1116
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:43,040
different software. Um because there's
typically there's typically no direct

1117
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,040
link because the vendor who you leaving
from

1118
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:49,440
doesn't
>> does not like for you to leave. So

1119
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:54,679
» um we have to kind of walk people
through that process and get them reset.

1120
01:27:54,800 --> 01:28:01,199
» Thank you. Maybe I missed this. What
update? What's the new grace?

1121
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:06,880
» It's in the memo.
>> So, um, interest in penalty charges are

1122
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:11,800
not going to be assessed until 60 days
after the September 17th due date.

1123
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:20,480
» Correct. And I also have a brief memo on
it um in our packet here. I'm sure as we

1124
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:24,639
get closer to that timeline, we'll be
doing more communication on it. and I

1125
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:31,040
can also provide a friendly reminder,
but um there's been a lot of care and

1126
01:28:28,159 --> 01:28:33,760
time into this transition,
provide an update.

1127
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:40,320
» Yeah, thanks.
>> Yeah, thanks to the staff for

1128
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:44,880
um taking care of that.
All right, that concludes uh reports of

1129
01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:50,320
village officials. Um we have no future
items of consideration and we have a

1130
01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:56,480
close session um scheduled for this
evening. Um, ma'am, you joined us uh a

1131
01:28:54,880 --> 01:29:00,360
few minutes ago. Did you come for a
certain business item?

1132
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:17,600
Uh, are you speaking to me, Amy Cyel?
>> No. Um Amy, we have a resident who who

1133
01:29:15,199 --> 01:29:21,199
came into the um courtroom and I just
want to make sure that they've been

1134
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:26,480
addressed before we go into close
session. So did you to address the board

1135
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:29,480
that
oh

1136
01:29:32,239 --> 01:29:40,000
wonderful
all right well there there's a whole web

1137
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:44,719
page all about it. So lots Glad to have
you aboard. So, at this time, we're

1138
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:51,280
gonna um I'm looking for a motion to go
into close session. Um

1139
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:55,120
and uh and then we will proceed.
>> Sure. Uh the village board will I move

1140
01:29:53,280 --> 01:30:01,199
to adjourn the village board into close
session pursuant to 19.851G

1141
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:05,199
to confer with legal counsel on strategy
regarding pending litigation on various

1142
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:09,440
legal items involving Rowdy
Supermarkets, Inc. versus Village of

1143
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:13,760
Shorewood.
Second.

1144
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:18,120
» All right. Any discussion?
Hearing none. This will be a roll call

1145
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,120
vote.

1146
01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:21,440
» Trusty Warren.
>> I.

1147
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,800
» Trusty McGovern.
>> I.

1148
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,199
» Trusty Kudo.
>> Yep.

1149
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:27,199
» Trusty Ander.
>> I.

1150
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,520
» Trusty Storan.
>> I.

1151
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:33,199
» President McKG.
>> I.

1152
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:38,800
» Trusty McGovern.
Motion carries 6.

1153
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:43,360
» And for um Mr.
Michael Miller who is online. We're

1154
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:48,560
going to actually be going to a breakout
room and and shutting down the meeting.

1155
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:51,760
So the there's no action being taken,
but I wanted to let you know since you

1156
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:55,880
were kind enough to join us this
evening. Come on.