1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:08,639 Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:15,080 for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 3 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:15,080 justice for all. 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,600 » Have a roll call, please. [snorts] 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,680 » Taylor >> here. 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,840 » Owens here. >> Raybrook 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,880 » here. Carlstrom >> here. 8 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:28,000 » Peoples >> here. 9 00:00:27,439 --> 00:00:31,840 » Whan >> here. 10 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:35,559 Thank you. >> You forgot somebody 11 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:41,960 » coming. >> I'm here. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:50,280 » All right. Additions or corrections to the business consent agenda? 13 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:54,879 Hearing none. Entertain a motion to approve. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,680 » So moved. >> Second. 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,520 » Motion by Carl. Support by Braybrook. All in favor? 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:04,400 » I. >> Those opposed? Motion passes 70. All 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:08,400 right. This time we'll open the floor for public comment for agenda items. 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,799 There's also public comment at the end of the meeting for any item you'd like 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,360 to bring to the council's attention. We will start right in the front row. 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,159 Bruce. >> No, thank you. 21 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:19,159 » Sue. 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:30,640 » Back rows. Anyone? All right. Close off public comment. Old 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:35,360 business or public hearing. We have none old business. None new business. 24 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:41,360 Resolution [clears throat] 2604 is a resolution to provide the designation of 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:45,240 September 18th, 2026 as PMIA recognition day. 26 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:52,079 Yep. Uh nothing really to add on this one. This is something the council 27 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:55,920 generally does uh annually and uh resolution's included in the packet but 28 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,920 uh no specific [clears throat] beyond that 29 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:04,479 entertain a motion to approve resolution 2604 30 00:02:03,759 --> 00:02:12,039 motion >> motion by Cummings support by 31 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:12,039 » any other discussion 32 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:19,120 I had one member ask me why we have to do it every year and for whatever reason 33 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:23,760 they They like to have the resolution yearly. 34 00:02:20,959 --> 00:02:28,480 Um, this is something I've been doing many years as I can remember. So, all 35 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:34,560 right. All in favor? >> Those opposed? Motion passes. 70. 36 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:38,879 Resolution 2605 is a resolution to accept project grant agreement with 37 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,840 MNRTF for project TF25-07. 38 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:50,160 » Okay. So uh this one is the formal resolution accepting the grant funding 39 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:55,200 funding from the Michigan Natural Resources uh trust fund. Uh this is the 40 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:59,920 Rogue River Park South Kayak Landing. So this is uh designated for the property 41 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:04,879 uh near the airport uh that we generally use for keeping the approach path uh 42 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:08,959 clear of trees. Um not to be confused with the grant that we got the cycle 43 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:13,440 before this uh for the property uh inside the village. So uh just a 44 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:18,159 resolution. Um you guys already approved the dollar amount in the budget and also 45 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,680 applying for the grant last year. This is just the final step in terms of 46 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:25,239 accepting it uh now that it's been approved by the state. 47 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,680 » Entertain a motion to approve resolution 2605. 48 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:36,319 » Make that motion. >> Motion by people's 49 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:39,319 » support. Support by Carlstrom. Further discussion 50 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:50,480 hearing none. All in favor? >> I opposed. Motion passes 70. Bailey 51 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:56,000 Bridge bids contractor selection. Okay. As council will recall, we went out to 52 00:03:53,120 --> 00:04:00,239 bid uh for the Baleat Bridge. This is uh in the easement area that we have near 53 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:04,400 uh Dance with Me and their new parking lot. It will connect uh to a public 54 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:11,040 sidewalk uh that will ultimately connect to the 13-mi road sidewalks and also the 55 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:16,560 uh Baleette parking lot. uh low bid for this project. We're very pleased. Uh 11 56 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:20,639 total bids. So uh lot of interest uh in the project. We had the bid opening uh 57 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:27,199 in this room last week. And low bid bid was Miller Bridge Construction out of 58 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:33,840 Portland, Michigan for 175,503. um as you'll notice in the uh packet is 59 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:37,680 very very close to our estimates and uh with that taken together with the design 60 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:41,653 will be very close to that 200,000 overall project budget number we had. So 61 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:47,440 we're pretty excited about it. Uh [clears throat and cough] they're 62 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:52,400 looking to start uh likely in October. >> Anything that originally wasn't wood has 63 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:57,040 been changed out to composite. Correct. >> Uh composite and concrete deck. The deck 64 00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:02,000 will be concrete and the yeah structures will be the composite. There's also 65 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:05,600 electrical outlets so we can have lighting on the bridge and so forth. And 66 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:10,960 and and to be clear, it's not just the bridge. The 175 is all the site work, 67 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:15,919 the uh pilings, uh the sidewalk connector pieces. So this is a you know 68 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:19,120 out the door out the door uh price for the whole whole project hooking up the 69 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:23,440 wiring too. We already have the permits. We've secured those uh with the state 70 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:27,600 and the county as well. any idea if they're going to beat the uh 71 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:30,639 drain commission down there for their work or 72 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:34,320 » we've worked with the drain commission pretty specifically on the permitting 73 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:39,520 for this because of course it's a county drain. Um so how that exact timing 74 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,479 meshes out I can't really answer that right now but they're they're working in 75 00:05:41,039 --> 00:05:46,960 conjunction with the drain commission on it or at least our design team is. So 76 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:52,639 and then if if this is awarded then of course Miller Bridge will be as well. 77 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:58,000 Now, they're in the bridge building, right? Is there any way they could be 78 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:01,600 looking at that Martindale project? >> Uh, they didn't bid on that. Uh, they 79 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,240 didn't bid on the Martindale one. That that 80 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:08,080 » Were they asked or whatever? >> We've put the Martindale one out a 81 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:10,800 couple of different times. I didn't ask Miller, you know, specifically if that's 82 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:15,039 what you're asking. >> I mean, if that's their kind of uh what 83 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,759 they do. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to I mean, because there's only one bid on 84 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:22,240 the other one. >> Yeah. Happy to talk about that under 85 00:06:19,919 --> 00:06:24,720 under that agenda item if you'd like to. >> Yeah. 86 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:28,400 » Okay. When we when we get to that, I'll we can talk about that. 87 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:34,080 » All right. >> So, if they if they start in October, 88 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:38,240 when would the estimated finish date be? >> Um, I'm not I'm not certain of that. 89 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,919 » Okay. Entertain [clears throat] 90 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:48,440 a motion to award the bid to Miller Bridge Construction in the amount of 91 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,440 175,53. 92 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,880 » Take that motion. >> Motion by Cummings. 93 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:59,319 » I'll support by Braybrook. Further discussion 94 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:07,639 hearing none. All in favor? Those opposed? Motion passes 70. 95 00:07:09,599 --> 00:07:16,960 Moving on, approval of USDA grant borrowing application. 96 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:21,440 » Okay. So, this is uh a process council may be familiar with from uh the 97 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:25,405 different uh borrowing uh and grant projects we've done over the years uh 98 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:29,599 with USDA and and other funders. [snorts] 99 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:34,479 Uh in 2020, the village uh completed its saw report and analysis. Uh the sewer 100 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:40,000 under Gardener Street uh was identified at that time as nearing its uh maximum 101 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:44,240 capacity. So as a reminder uh there's three separate sewer lines underneath 102 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:50,319 Gardener Street that all ultimately connect collect the village uh sewer and 103 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:53,759 convey it to the sewer plant. Um we did apply with uh Congressman Molinar's 104 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:58,800 office through the congressionally directed spending and uh did receive a 105 00:07:56,479 --> 00:08:02,240 million dollars for uh this project. So that doesn't come close to covering all 106 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,680 of it, but we're pretty pretty excited about that. So there's really two 107 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:10,560 projects. We're going to use the CDS funding along with village sewer fund 108 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:15,199 savings to complete a portion of the project from Martindale to the sewer 109 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:19,440 plant. So that will happen uh either way. We would like to uh complete the 110 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:24,319 full project which would go from Martindale to the almost to the lift 111 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:30,319 station uh there on Gardener Street. So that component of the project is another 112 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:35,039 6.27 27 million. Uh what we're applying for is two things. One is the EDA grant 113 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:39,519 request which has already been submitted in the amount of $5 million and then 114 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:45,839 there's a match associated with that uh which we're proposing to do a USDA loan 115 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:50,560 in the amount of $1,254,000. So uh the USDA process uh so it's it's 116 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:54,959 really twofold. It's it's you know basically applying for the million 117 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,920 dollars that's already been designated uh for the village uh under the 118 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:02,640 congressionally directed spending and then a separate application uh for the 119 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:08,000 loan to match the EDA grant if we get the EDA grant. So uh we're very hopeful. 120 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:12,480 We've been working on uh the EDA grant uh with the United States Department of 121 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:16,480 Economic Development uh for a number of months since the council approved the 122 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:21,040 bid with our design team. So we were able to get that all turned in. So this 123 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:24,959 is just a formal part in the process to uh keep it moving 124 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:28,880 » and there is no requirement to follow through with the loan if the grant's not 125 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:33,279 awarded. That correct? >> That's right. Exactly. We but we do have 126 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:37,760 to do this official step of the council approving us uh submitting the grant and 127 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:41,839 the loan application in order to keep uh the grant application active with with 128 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:45,600 the EDA. So, but yeah, if we're ultimately unsuccessful, then we don't 129 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:49,519 have to go through with the with the loan or we could look at other funding 130 00:09:47,839 --> 00:09:53,519 options. But the good news is either way, we'll at least be able to do a 131 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:58,000 portion of the project. Uh this year there's um what I would call a unique 132 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:02,240 opportunity as far as the federal funding goes with the EDA. Normally 133 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:08,399 those funds are 6040. Uh this particular pot of money is 8020 uh under that. So 134 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:12,720 if uh at Kent County municipalities with projects like this are eligible. So 135 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:17,200 we're trying to take advantage of that especially considering uh this is 136 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:21,120 something that's been in our CIP, you know, and identified with the SAW 137 00:10:18,959 --> 00:10:24,720 grant for or saw program for quite some time. So if we're successful in this 138 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,000 application, it'll be a big big deal for the village. will not only have gotten 139 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:32,240 the million dollars in congressionally directed spending, but we'll have gotten 140 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:36,399 uh 5 million in EDA funding, too, for something that will ultimately serve the 141 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:39,959 village for a long, long time. So, we're pretty excited about it. 142 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Entertain a motion to approve the USDA grant loan application for Gardener 143 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:51,519 Street sewer collection system project. >> I'll make that motion. 144 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,079 » Motion by Carlstrom. >> Support. 145 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,079 » Support by Peebles. Any other discussion? 146 00:10:58,079 --> 00:11:04,880 Hearing none. All in favor? >> I. 147 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:09,120 » Those opposed? Motion passes. 7. That's the only question that I had. 148 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:14,399 What happens if we didn't get >> I was curious of that, too. Uh Martinale 149 00:11:12,079 --> 00:11:18,000 boardwalk repair bid. >> Okay. And I'll ask uh William Hunter, 150 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:23,600 our director of public works, to come to the D and uh help me present this one. 151 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:27,519 So, this has been a project that uh we identified [clears throat] in our budget 152 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:31,120 uh and have been having a little bit of difficulty with the bid process. So, um 153 00:11:29,839 --> 00:11:34,160 I don't know if you overheard Councilman Taylor's questions, but if you could 154 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,839 kind of address those in your remarks, we'd certainly appreciate it. 155 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:42,000 » Yes, sir. >> Okay. Floor is yours, Bill. 156 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:47,279 » Okay. Thank you. Uh in front of uh village council today 157 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:52,720 is uh proposals actually from contractor the loan bidder from the last RFP we did 158 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:57,040 from Tucker Marine Construction. Uh earlier this year or sorry beginning of 159 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:02,000 last year we did put in a capital improvement plan uh repair to Martinale 160 00:11:59,839 --> 00:12:06,800 Bridge. We identified like 40 linear feet that seem to be heaving. Um I did 161 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:10,560 at that time compare the plans to existing conditions. uh the existing 162 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:15,040 plan I mean the plans that we have in place showed concrete footings and looks 163 00:12:12,959 --> 00:12:19,839 like they did just direct drive piling drive which is typical probably for that 164 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:24,000 area. I probably if I were looking at plans I probably would have went that 165 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:27,760 way too. Um but it does look like those pilings heaved which actually tells me 166 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:32,639 probably they weren't driven down far enough and which the frost actually took 167 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:37,440 it and heaved them. So we I put together an RFP identifying that and I did offer 168 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:42,480 the contractors that bid a copy of the plan. So first time we went out for bid. 169 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:47,680 I put an RFP together, released it June 29th, deadline of July 13th, I did get a 170 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:51,120 few calls on it. There was one contractor that said they would be way 171 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:56,079 too expensive. They were calling from the um Ohio, but they said call us if 172 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,720 you don't get any bids. I didn't like the way that sounded because they said 173 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:03,360 they would have to put their people up in a hotel. So I was like, "Well, I 174 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:06,480 don't think that would be." So the second time I went out for it, I thought 175 00:13:04,959 --> 00:13:11,040 a little bit outside the box. I thought, "Well, this is basically kind of like a 176 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:14,880 dock. So why don't they get hold of some marine contractors, someone that puts in 177 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,880 docking?" So we did. And that's when we actually got some interest. And that's 178 00:13:16,959 --> 00:13:23,680 where that's what actually Tucker does is they that's what they do. They they 179 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:29,040 put in marine docks. Um there is one change to the um to the uh the report in 180 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,160 front of you. At the time I put the report together, I didn't get a chance 181 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:37,680 to call them. However, after the report I did call them, they would be able to 182 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:43,279 get this completed by October 31st. They said they'd be able there and and kick 183 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:48,079 it out within like two weeks. Um the second time you can see actually we we 184 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:54,079 the same amount we we reached out to our people we know like Milbacher a couple 185 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:59,040 of the Marines Bisser Dan's Escavating JW Dirt Works JW dead work dirt Dirt 186 00:13:56,560 --> 00:14:02,480 Works did respond back to me. Uh they regretted not being able to bid on it 187 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:06,560 because they wanted engineering plans on it and I understand that. They just 188 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:13,600 didn't feel comfortable at this time. So, so in front of the village council 189 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:18,240 today is um a a proposal from Tucker Marine for 44,500. 190 00:14:15,839 --> 00:14:23,040 We did budget $50,000 in the CAP improvement plan, so 191 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:28,720 we're under it by 5,500. So, I'm here to answer any questions 192 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:34,320 that council may have on this proposal. >> So, will it be the exact same size? Is 193 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:39,279 there any ability to like make it just a little bit wider or No. Well, we I did 194 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:45,120 look into that um uh to make it a little wider. So, that would probably result in 195 00:14:42,639 --> 00:14:49,040 a in a full con reconstruction. I put some cost together uh from what I could 196 00:14:47,199 --> 00:14:53,680 find for linear feet in those. And you're looking at probably $800,000 to 197 00:14:52,079 --> 00:14:56,639 do that to make it a 10-ft bridge. That's what I was thinking. Maybe 198 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:59,680 matching up with the bike path. So, make it a 10 foot through there and 10 foot 199 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:04,160 back around because right now it's six foot. But yeah, that's would be I mean 200 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,360 that's something that council could choose to do. I mean, that's something, 201 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:11,440 but that that's a large that's a large hit. And that 800,000 would be including 202 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,160 actually we'd have to go back out for bids. We'd have to have plans and 203 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,519 engineering. >> That's a huge number. 204 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,199 » That's a big number. And I look at some other scenarios, too. I looked at 205 00:15:19,199 --> 00:15:26,880 actually just re building the exact same bridge in six foot and I've got cost 206 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:30,959 together about 600,000. If we wanted to build something even more robust, 207 00:15:28,959 --> 00:15:35,519 something maybe like similar to what we're doing, Billy, you're probably 208 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:41,120 looking at and something that could maybe take some equipment over it, 209 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:45,040 you're looking at about 1.1 million. >> Why Why is it so expensive? 210 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:48,480 » Well, it for actually because you because you're looking at probably load 211 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,839 depending on what kind of equipment we choose to want it. If we wanted 212 00:15:49,759 --> 00:15:56,079 something like say for example 15,000 lbs then we'd have to do a load rating 213 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:59,920 and probably steel more steel more concrete to take the load. I doubt if 214 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:05,519 that's something we want to consider because really it's this is a pedestrian 215 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:09,839 there's and we've never had equipment on it before six foot. When we do clear 216 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:13,360 snow on it uh we use actually a little paddle blower and that's what we use on 217 00:16:11,839 --> 00:16:18,636 it to get it and that's been working just fine 218 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,636 I believe. So, [clears throat] 219 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:26,320 » we're going to use pressuret treated lumber though. 220 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:30,720 » Yes, sir. That was what we bid on. >> They thought of using composite. So, 221 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,519 » I can ask them to alternate it, sir. >> What's that? 222 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:38,160 » I can ask them to alternate that. Yes, >> it it'd be nice, I guess, to know what 223 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:42,519 the difference would be. Just comp I mean, you're one and you're done kind 224 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:42,519 of. 225 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:49,759 Did anybody consider a helical pure anchor for [clears throat] the support? 226 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,959 » Um, I didn't ask them actually of what kind of they would anchor in. They're 227 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,639 they're just going to drive it down. So, I didn't give that kind of detailed 228 00:16:54,480 --> 00:17:02,720 other than the the proposal. I put the RFP was generic. I wanted it actually 229 00:16:58,959 --> 00:17:07,319 them to come in and propose to me. So, >> might be an interesting option. 230 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:07,319 » Yep. 231 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:15,039 Well, the bridge def definitely gets a lot of use now with the 232 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:19,280 » the trail through the school like school. 233 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:23,199 » I mean, it's probably increased 90%. >> And with the heaving that's on there, 234 00:17:21,919 --> 00:17:24,720 » I mean, it's definitely something that needs to be done. 235 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:28,960 » Yes. >> With the heaving on, if you're walking 236 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:31,200 around a bike, it's hard to avoid people. 237 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,000 » Yeah. [clears throat] this last year. Well, right when I was putting the 238 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:41,880 budget together, you could really tell when um 20 2024 when it started to eve. 239 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,880 So, 240 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:51,520 going back to the heel helical, I I would have to ask them, but it might be 241 00:17:49,679 --> 00:17:54,720 a larger expense. I think they're planning on just driving. They told me 242 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:58,720 they were just going to drive until it stops. That was what they were saying. 243 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,200 You know, you know what you got though when you got when you get there too. 244 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,919 » Yeah. >> You get a different result. 245 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,640 » The council's pleasure. 246 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:24,320 How far out do you think it put it to to um 247 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:28,480 see what the up cost is going to be for composite bill? Um, how far it would 248 00:18:27,679 --> 00:18:30,720 take or >> how long do you think it would take? I 249 00:18:29,679 --> 00:18:33,120 mean, it shouldn't take him, but probably a phone call. 250 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:37,919 » Yeah, it wouldn't take more than a phone call, I would say, actually. Yeah. 251 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,480 » Yeah. Wouldn't take more than a phone call. 252 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,440 » Everything's already specked out and all they got to do is just 253 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:47,039 » Well, they gave me a lump lump sum bid. That's what I asked for. 254 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:50,520 » So, I asked for just to repair what was in place there. 255 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:57,919 » So, just too late to ask that Miller company to look at it. I mean, how Uh, 256 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:03,039 how much longer is this bridge going to last? I mean, I was across it the other 257 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:07,200 day. It needs work, but it's >> Well, I I I don't know if it's going to 258 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:12,000 get worse. I I have no idea. I mean, it could actually could get worse. 259 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:16,720 » I mean, right now it don't meet I mean I mean it it does it slopewise, cross 260 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:20,960 slopewise actually on the bridge. It it's beyond actually 261 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:25,039 » it's okay for the kids to go to school and everything walking there. I mean, we 262 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:28,160 could ask them, but actually right now it's a public meeting. We already kind 263 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,919 of divulge what the price would be. So, if I was a contractor, I just look on 264 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:35,200 the agenda and go, >> "Yep, 265 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:38,400 » I'll give you 44,400." >> It's been advertised a couple different 266 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:44,160 times. I mean, it's >> Yeah, it's just that they're going to be 267 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:51,760 in town and they might just uh they're in that business. So, I mean, 268 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:55,039 doesn't hurt to ask this. I don't know. This other company didn't know when they 269 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,280 were going to get to it. Is that correct? 270 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,600 » No. No. I I I just stated, sir, they'd be able to have it done actually by 271 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,919 October 31st. >> By when? 272 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,039 » October 31st. Halloween. >> October 31st. 273 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:08,559 » They said they would kick it out in two weeks. 274 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,640 » Yeah. I really don't think we want to lose this construction season. 275 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,640 » No. >> No. 276 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,679 » And we don't want to put some out for bid that a bid has already been 277 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:20,360 disclosed. I mean, that's that's improper bidding period. So, 278 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:29,200 all right. Entertain a motion to approve Tucker Marine Construction, which was 279 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:35,200 the loan bid for the lump sum of 44,500. I would like to add a contingency 280 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:38,480 to approve it up to 50,000 what we originally budgeted if they could do it 281 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:43,259 with composite. >> Yes, sir. 282 00:20:41,239 --> 00:20:43,259 [clears throat] 283 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:50,080 » I'll make that motion. Motion by Braybrook. 284 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:54,159 » I'll support >> support by Peebles. Any other 285 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:58,159 discussion? >> I think it's a good idea to check 286 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:02,159 composite as well. >> I I like your idea, Bill, but you know, 287 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:07,919 with the fact that this has all been disclosed online already. I mean, it's 288 00:21:03,919 --> 00:21:13,120 it's improper bidding at that point. So, all right. Any other discussion? 289 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,080 » All right. All in favor? >> I. 290 00:21:14,159 --> 00:21:20,480 » Those opposed? Nay. >> Motion passes 61. 291 00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:26,640 All right. At this time, we have an executive session. Um, council will 292 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:30,559 reconvene afterwards and we will Oh, we need a motion to go 293 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:35,200 into it. >> Oh, motion to enter executive session. I 294 00:21:33,679 --> 00:21:37,840 haven't done one of these in so many years that 295 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:43,440 » Yep. So, we need a we need a motion and a second as depicted on the agenda and 296 00:21:40,159 --> 00:21:46,799 it's a roll call. >> Make that motion. Motion by Cummings. 297 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:52,240 » A second. >> Support by Braybrook. All in favor? No. 298 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:55,679 Roll call. Roll call. Sorry. >> I couldn't tell you how many years the 299 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,760 village hasn't gone into an executive session. Bill, 300 00:21:57,039 --> 00:21:59,120 » yes. >> Christina, 301 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:00,000 » yes. >> Dave, 302 00:21:59,679 --> 00:22:01,039 » yes. >> Randa, 303 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:02,799 » yes. >> Tom, 304 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,840 » yes. Robert, >> yes. 305 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,159 » Yourself? Yes. >> Okay. And for the benefit of the public, 306 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:12,840 you can stay in this room. We're going to use the conference room and we will 307 00:22:09,679 --> 00:22:12,840 come back. 308 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,400 We can't take notes. 309 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:49,240 one. >> But yeah, I'll I'll make that part of my 310 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,240 knowledge. 311 00:24:55,382 --> 00:25:01,720 [laughter] >> Yeah, we did. too. So I can sing it. 312 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:19,039 » It's just an excuse. I know. I really 313 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:24,120 » I'm getting old. >> Everybody's gonna go out there and screw 314 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,120 this. 315 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,480 Wait 316 00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:40,520 for it. I'm going to wait for it. Don't worry. 317 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Maybe they can throw me some. 318 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,559 All right, small meeting back to order at 8:17. 319 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:13,200 This time I entertain a motion to approve what was discussed in executive 320 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,320 session. >> We'll make that motion. 321 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,520 » Motion by Brave Brook. >> Support. 322 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,919 » Support by Peeles. All in favor? 323 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:28,279 » I. >> Those opposed? I 324 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,279 » should passes by two. 325 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Moving on. Village manager report. >> Uh nothing too much further to add. Just 326 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:41,039 uh reminding the council that uh we have the bids out for the Rogers Park 327 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:44,720 bathroom and those will be considered at the September meeting. So, we're pretty 328 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:49,919 excited about that, too. There's been uh quite a bit of interest uh in that 329 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:54,480 project. Um and yeah, happy that the the bridge project came together. I know 330 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:58,400 that was a a lot involved with that. So, happy to see that moving on and you 331 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:03,440 know, happy to take any questions uh on anything else. Anybody have any 332 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:07,520 questions for the village manager? >> Yeah. Are you going ahead with those uh 333 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,360 vouchers? >> Yep. Yep. Vouchers are going to go out 334 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:15,120 for uh they'll be good for the month of October. Uh last year we did them for 335 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,600 two weeks. This year we're going to do the whole the whole month of October. 336 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,679 So, that'll be put out. >> Why are we doing that? 337 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:25,120 » What's that? Well, I mean, the township does it in April, 338 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:29,039 » right? Last year, we did ours in the fall and we're kind of continuing. 339 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,440 » I mean, why don't we do uh why do we have to do it if the township has one? 340 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:38,080 » Well, I guess we don't necessarily have to if you guys would like not want to. 341 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Um I was under the impression the board wanted to continue the voucher program. 342 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:49,120 » I don't I don't know that we need to. I mean, you said there wasn't very highly 343 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,679 utilized last year. No, it was I mean it was a decent amount of utilization. I 344 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,919 mean, we've already got the V. I mean, if you guys don't want to do it, that's 345 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,480 fine. >> Let's try it again to see what happens. 346 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,279 » It was in the budget and everything. I >> The cost of the village is only if 347 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,320 somebody uses it, >> right? So, let's try it. Let's 348 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,399 » not like you're out anything, right? >> It's a convenience. You got one whole 349 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:13,919 month you can make a trip to the dome. >> And did you say did did I read that they 350 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,399 weren't going to be mailed out that they can pick them up here whenever they 351 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:19,760 want? Yeah, cuz last year what happened was we mailed them out and you know what 352 00:28:18,399 --> 00:28:23,520 I mean? It kind of was a lot of postage when not that many people used them. So 353 00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:26,640 now they'll be you know picked up. Other other townships and and villages do the 354 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,159 pickup method. >> We thought we'd go over and above last 355 00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:34,159 year and mail them out and we you know we did and it just uh people used them 356 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:38,399 but not not as much as we would have thought. But I was under the impression 357 00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:40,240 the board wanted to to continue the vouchers. 358 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:42,000 » That's what I thought. >> Me too. 359 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:45,520 » I think maybe we should talk about it during budget this year. Yeah, we can we 360 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:49,279 can talk about it. Yeah, during >> we already got it in the budget for this 361 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:52,960 year, but then for next year talk about it again in our workshop. 362 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:56,240 » Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but if we don't if you guys don't want to do it, I that 363 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:58,960 now would be the time to make that decision. 364 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:02,320 » I mean, they got the option from the uh township to do it and they did it right 365 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:06,320 in town here. I mean, it was very convenient. So, I mean, why are we, you 366 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:10,880 know, >> they handed out $25 to go there? I mean, 367 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,919 they can go to that one. I'm just saying. 368 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:17,679 » Yeah. Yeah. No, I understand. I I was under impression the board wanted to do 369 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:20,320 the voucher program again. That's not the case. That That's fine. 370 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,200 We don't have to do it. >> When do you need to know? But 371 00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:26,399 » now I going out. 372 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:29,760 » I mean, yeah, it's you already put the word out. 373 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,240 » Let's at least do it this year and then talk about it at our budget meeting for 374 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:37,200 next year. >> Okay. Sounds good. 375 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:39,919 » Consensus. Tom, continue with the voucher. Robert, 376 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,240 » for this year. >> For this year. 377 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,159 » For this year. Yeah. Brenda, >> yes. 378 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,600 » Dave, >> Christina 379 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,000 » for this year, >> Bill? 380 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:53,000 » No. >> All right. Anything else for village 381 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,000 manager? 382 00:29:54,399 --> 00:30:01,919 » Okay. Bill, you have anything further? >> Any questions for Bill? 383 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,559 » Conrad? Questions for Conrad? 384 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:09,200 » Get everything built down there yet? >> Getting there. 385 00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:12,960 » Almost. >> Mike, do you have anything? Uh, no. We 386 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,840 had a great fly in. So, >> awesome turnout. 387 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,120 » Yep. Thanks to the community for coming out. It's awesome. 388 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:23,360 » Record turnout this year. >> Uh, record number of breakfast served. 389 00:30:21,679 --> 00:30:26,799 » Cool. >> All right. Where's Chief? 390 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,440 » Vacation. >> Do you have anything for Chief? 391 00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:38,120 » No. All right. Moving on. Communications. 392 00:30:34,399 --> 00:30:38,120 Anybody have any communications? 393 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:47,720 Okay. July payables. Entertain a motion to pay the July payables in the amount 394 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:47,720 of $313,87.98. 395 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,360 » Take a motion. >> Motion by Cummings. 396 00:30:56,159 --> 00:31:02,600 » Support by Braybrook. Any questions on the bills? 397 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:08,720 Okay. Once again, these bills are are brought to the council about a week in 398 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:14,240 advance. So the council has plenty of time to review them. Um 399 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:21,679 all in favor? >> Those opposed? Motion passes 70. 400 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,960 » All right. Public comment. This time open the floor for public comment for 401 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,960 any item you'd like to bring to the council's attention 402 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:34,640 rather than go by roll. Show of hands. Anybody? 403 00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:42,440 All right. Council member announcements. 404 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,440 None. Journment 8:22.