[0:02] Dear Lord, we thank you for this day.
Thank you for all of our many blessings.
[0:06] Lord, we ask that you give the mayor and
the council wisdom as they consider the
[0:09] business of the city. Lord, we ask that
you be bring peace and comfort and
[0:14] healing to Miss Bangberger who's under
the weather. Lord, we also ask for peace
[0:18] and comfort to those who've lost loved
ones and property in Texas during the
[0:22] terrible flooding. We ask all these
things in Christ's name. Amen.
[0:25] Amen.
I pledge algiance to the flag of the
[0:30] United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation
[0:36] under God, indivisible with liberty and
justice for all.
[0:43] Roll call, please. Mr. King
here.
[0:46] Miss Hudson
here.
[0:48] Miss Disco here. Miss Dun here. Miss
Baconberg.
[0:53] Mr. Dennis
here.
[0:55] Okay. I'm going to go out of order a
little bit tonight. Um, we do have Angie
[1:00] Angela Laierre here. She is to talk
about the Honor Flight. And before I let
[1:05] her talk for a second, I have um
actually we have a proclamation for you.
[1:16] We are honoring Angela tonight um for
her and I'm going to read this so
[1:21] everybody can understand what's going
on. Angie Angela Lapierre has basically
[1:26] served as assistant mission director and
mission director over the past four
[1:30] years. In her role as mission director,
she coordinates all aspects of every
[1:34] mission, including scheduling the
aircraft, arranging transportation, and
[1:37] planning visits to the memorial. Being
the mission director entails scheduling
[1:42] the aircraft, the tour bus, and the
memorials to be visited. She also spends
[1:46] countless hours contacting veterans and
ensures all the needs are met for the
[1:49] day of the flight. She diligently
recruits and trains veter volunteers to
[1:53] serve as guardians, ensuring each
veteran is accompanied by a caring,
[1:57] qualified companion. Mrs. Angela
Lapierre oversees three honor flights
[2:02] per year, honoring and celebrating the
service for our nation's heroes. Now
[2:06] therefore, I Pam Oden, mayor of the city
of Hine Grove, by virtue of the
[2:10] authority vested in me, do hereby
proclaim July 7th, 2025 Angel Angela
[2:14] Lapiierre Day, and encourage all
citizens to join me in recognizing and
[2:19] honoring her extraordinary commitment
and selfless service to our veterans.
[2:24] Thank you very
[2:32] much, but I'm going to let you talk
about it. So,
[2:35] [Music]
it's good.
[2:39] [Music]
Thank you for everything you do.
[2:45] Oh, we did.
[2:52] Got it. I'm gonna let you talk about it
real quick so you can tell everybody.
[2:57] What do you want to tell everybody?
Um, what it is? I'm not sure if
[3:00] everybody knows what it is.
Yes. Hold it for you. Talk to
[3:05] you.
We're going to make you use the
[3:07] microphone.
You want to make me use the microphone?
[3:09] Okay, I can do that.
That was pretty tricky, but thank you.
[3:13] So, like she said, u my name is Angela
Lier. Uh, I um am on the board for Honor
[3:19] Flight. Um it is a an organization that
flies veterans to Washington DC um to
[3:26] honor them for the day. We take uh
Vietnam, Korea, and World War II
[3:31] veterans on the flight. It is free to
them. It is a one-day trip. Um Mary has
[3:37] been a couple years ago she went as a
guardian with one of our veterans. And
[3:42] so we are a nonprofit organization. Um,
anybody that wants to sign up to
[3:47] volunteer to go, we always need
volunteer guardians. The guardians do
[3:50] have to pay. It is $600. Um, but, uh,
that is just a small portion of what it
[3:57] costs for us to actually put on the
flight. Um, but we go we go, it's a
[4:01] jam-packed day. Get at the airport about
5:00 in the morning and uh, then we get
[4:05] home. Uh, we land back in Louisville
about 9:30 at night. Um, and there's
[4:10] always a big welcome home ceremony um at
the airport for everybody. Um, our next
[4:16] flight is September 30th. So, if you
want, you know, to check it out, um, if
[4:20] you know somebody who is, you know,
Vietnam, Korea, or World War II veteran,
[4:25] um, they just have to have served in
that era. Um, you can go to honorfl.org,
[4:31] uh, to get more information or, um, I
don't have any cards, but I can, um, the
[4:37] mayor has my phone number. you can get
it from her and uh if you have any
[4:40] questions or anything, you can give me a
call if you'd like to help out.
[4:43] Thank you. Appreciate it.
[4:50] I think that's kind of an amazing thing
that you all do and I appreciate it very
[4:54] much as I know everybody else does.
Okay, so we are at the um citizen
[4:59] comments. I want to rem remind everybody
you have two minutes. Um, whoever wants
[5:04] to go first, if you want to come up and
use the microphone, please state your
[5:07] name, your address, and give us the info
that you need need us to hear.
[5:12] Uh, mayor, one of your city council.
Sure.
[5:39] Don't mind.
[5:45] [Music]
Yeah.
[5:54] Thank you.
[6:02] the last
one.
[6:13] Yeah, my name is Howard Brown and uh
I've been here many times and discussed
[6:19] my issues and with my neighbors in my uh
area where I live at. So I has written
[6:27] from either all of them around my house
that nothing is getting done from this
[6:33] Vine Grove City Council or whatever you
want to call it. Nothing. and we
[6:38] discussed it with the mayor. I've called
her, text her, talked to her, but get
[6:43] blown out the door. Nothing had to get
done. I got pictures of what's going on
[6:47] next door. I've show took it to the
police department. They came to nothing
[6:50] about it. Code enforcement pictures,
trash in the backyard, garbage,
[6:55] mattresses in the back for 6 months.
Nothing gets done. And she said, "Well,
[7:00] we got to see it done. We got I got
neighbors right there that came with me
[7:04] tonight to prove what's going on." But
somebody needs to start doing something
[7:09] for vine growth. We need to do
something. I don't know what it is. It's
[7:14] just not my my little neighborhood. We
got junk cars and everything else laying
[7:18] around. Nothing gets done. And they say
they're looking at we don't even have a
[7:22] code enforcement guy no more. The fire
department's doing it. So what are we
[7:26] paying for in the city? Our taxes.
Where's it all going to? And you keep
[7:30] saying that wait, you know, we can't
afford this here. Talk Aaron needs some
[7:35] help. He's a good man. I'm not saying
he's not, but they going these guys do
[7:41] what you tell him to do. He don't He
gets off at 4:00, 4:30.
[7:46] They said, "Well, he told me I got on
video that he's going to talk to the
[7:49] police department and see what gets it
done." But they said they can't do
[7:52] nothing because they're not code
enforcement. We got people living next
[7:55] to my house in a abandoned trailer and
we talked to her and the mayor and she's
[8:01] been by there and sees it in the trash
and nothing gets done and it physically
[8:05] she sees it and watches it. Why don't we
get nothing done? Can somebody tell?
[8:13] The only other thing I can say to you,
sir, is we've talked several times about
[8:16] it. We do have people that are doing
code enforcement.
[8:20] Just because you don't think there's
being things done doesn't mean there's
[8:23] not things being done. I don't discuss
them with you. It's just like I wouldn't
[8:26] discuss anything that's going on with
you with somebody else. There's and
[8:31] that's an RV. That's not a trailer
that's in the property. But if you'd
[8:36] like to sit, we've sat down several
times and talked about this. I mean,
[8:39] you're welcome to to say whatever you
want to say. You've got like 30 seconds
[8:44] left. So, go ahead.
So, what do you mean? Uh, there's
[8:49] nothing you can do. I don't understand.
I didn't say there's nothing I can do. I
[8:53] said,
why is nothing getting done? Well, their
[8:56] grass is that damn tall. Nothing is
getting done.
[8:58] How do you know that nothing's getting
done?
[9:00] I I sit on my porch. They all know I sit
on my porch all day long. I'm retired,
[9:05] so I sit at the porch and watching
stuff. Y'all do nothing. They drive by.
[9:09] Nothing.
Why? Nothing getting done.
[9:15] I mean, things are getting done. And I'm
not going to discuss them with you at
[9:17] the middle.
You're not going to discuss it with me,
[9:19] but you had no problem discussing that
when we was in a little meeting that you
[9:23] have two police officers you'd like to
get rid of and you got one city council
[9:26] person that don't agree with you. You
had no problem talking about that
[9:30] or other blank profit.
Okay. All right, sir. Thank you very
[9:34] much for coming tonight. We appreciate
it. Is anybody else would like to speak
[9:37] tonight?
Anybody else would like to speak?
[9:46] No one else.
Okay. All right. We are going to move
[9:51] on.
So, if I can get someone to make if you
[9:56] have had a chance to look over the
minutes.
[9:59] Is there any questions?
[10:04] I'll make a motion to approve the
minutes
[10:08] for both dates.
Okay. All right. All in favor?
[10:13] I.
Any opposed?
[10:17] Okay.
All right. So, next the department head
[10:22] reports. Do we have any discussion or
questions on that?
[10:32] Are we okay moving on?
[10:36] Okay. Unfinished business. Project
updates. If Mr. Bob Lucy can update us,
[10:41] please.
Just got a few things I want to go over
[10:46] with you this morning or this afternoon.
The same thing.
[10:51] Creek Bell Bridge, as you guys know, uh
the North Pier has u started to move and
[11:01] that's why we got a weight ton
restriction on right now. So, I've given
[11:05] you a picture of that so you can see it.
Uh ultimately we need to replace the
[11:09] structure. I mean it definitely needs to
replace it, but for the time being I've
[11:13] solicited quotes from local contractors
to do a temporary repair um to keep that
[11:20] from failing completely.
Even with that repair, we're still going
[11:25] to keep the weight limit posted on it so
that school buses aren't going to be
[11:29] able to go over it. Keeping it through
ton garbage trucks shouldn't be going
[11:34] over there. I mean the largest vehicle
really pick up.
[11:39] We don't want anything. So, but keep an
eye on it. Uh, but with these repairs,
[11:44] we can keep it open for now. We just
have to keep the weight on.
[11:48] Uh, so with that said, we are looking at
replacement, but we're trying to find
[11:53] grant money to do that. So, Jessica and
I've been working
[11:57] looking at all options for trying to
find money for that. That's going to be
[12:00] about a half million dollar project. You
know, it's a big big job. Sorry, I have
[12:06] a question.
How long would
[12:11] you know the the quick fix or the
temporary fix, how long would that last?
[12:17] It's fine. Um, if we keep the weight
limit restriction on,
[12:21] how do we enforce that? I mean,
other I mean, other than posting it, I
[12:26] mean, the worst thing that'll happen
once we get these temporary repairs done
[12:29] is the pavement's going to start
continue to to fail because you've got a
[12:33] void opened up behind that. We may come
back and do some other measures to the
[12:37] pavement once we get a pavement contract
going. But for now, what we're talking
[12:42] about doing is is is bracing it with I
beams underneath the deck. And I kind of
[12:48] I just gave you some dimensions there,
but that red line going horizontal that
[12:51] you see on the picture. Picture that
being an I-beam going across. There's
[12:56] three of them spread across. And and I'm
basing this based on a structural
[13:00] engineers report. I'm not a structure
engineer, but we had a structure
[13:03] engineer come up with this plan. So, um,
getting quotes back this week on
[13:10] Wednesday
9th, so Wednesday, I'll get those. I'll
[13:13] send those around so at least we have an
idea of budget what that looks like. I'm
[13:18] hopeful it's fairly inexpensive.
Just trapping smile beams on there
[13:25] and they may have some left in their
yard. You know, we may get lucky one of
[13:27] the contractors some of that material.
lucky.
[13:30] Um, but ultimately we do want to replace
that with a clear span structure because
[13:36] right now you've got peers that block
debris, trees, everything that flows
[13:41] down through a flood gets trapped on
that structure and we have to constantly
[13:45] Chris can tell you we have to constantly
clean it out, clean it out, clean it
[13:48] out. So it'll improve great if we get
back.
[13:53] So, I will add that um we've been
looking into state emergency funds for
[13:58] the bridge project and for the actual
replacement of the bridge project. The
[14:05] KYTC offers a county city bridge
improvement application. Um and I was
[14:10] told directly by the state that cities
get preference over counties and they
[14:15] wish cities would apply for it. So,
that's promising. My understanding too,
[14:21] Jessica, is that we could possibly get
reimbursed for the emergency money as
[14:26] well.
Well, I was I was 29.9% we would get
[14:29] reimbured.
So, anyway, we're we're doing what we
[14:33] can to get that going, but we're not
going to remove the weight restriction.
[14:36] So, just we got to let people know that.
Is there a deadline to submit for that?
[14:42] So, we already completed the emergency
application. We're just waiting for the
[14:45] quotes to come in to submit it and then
the deadline for the actual complete
[14:51] structure uh application I think was
October.
[14:54] I think so. It's in the fall. We thought
at first it was in
[14:57] but the earlier
July and who I think it's in October.
[15:02] Yeah, we're new to this. We're trying to
work our way through it and Bob, may I
[15:06] ask a question?
like after what had with the big
[15:10] rainfall and everything.
Do our bridges get inspected regularly
[15:16] or is that just No.
Maybe not. Maybe not. Well, we will look
[15:23] for things like this, you know. But the
short answer is no. But do they get
[15:27] inspected? We do put our eyes on them,
but they're not going through a physical
[15:31] form of inspection.
Okay. uh you know if and I'm not sure
[15:34] who reported this Chris if it came up
because they started to see a depression
[15:38] in the pavement and then you go under
the underside of the bridge
[15:42] well because it's not easy to get down
so a community member reported this
[15:46] problem
maybe whomever happened to drive up like
[15:49] today uh I think you might have seen
this when he was riding down at South
[15:53] Mill today on South Mill a hole opened
up in the street it's a simple fix it's
[15:59] just a a small diameter drainage pipe
just below the surface that tank had. So
[16:05] we put barrels around we can fix that
easy but many times
[16:10] I I didn't know what that
and we're looking at several other
[16:13] structures. This happens to be one over
creek is another one right at the golf
[16:18] course is the
creek drive.
[16:23] Oh the one lane road is posted already.
It's
[16:27] already posted but that's on the list
that we need to do something with that
[16:30] as well. The one on St. Andrews is also
on our list.
[16:34] It's not near critical. It's not
failure.
[16:39] We have three on our radar.
Anyway, more to come on that. I'm just
[16:46] making you aware that's what we have
going on. Road painting. Um I sent out a
[16:51] list so we don't have to decide tonight,
but it would be nice if you could use
[16:55] that. I can believe quotes. Um, I came
up with the list that included all of
[17:01] the Mountain View Drive area. So, it'
been Mountain View, Alpine, Blue Ridge
[17:06] Way, Ozark Court, Blue Ridge Court, and
in Durban Way. And then through two
[17:12] others on there that um I tried to group
these all together so that we don't have
[17:17] mobilized, they don't have to pop all
over the city. But, um, Hill Street,
[17:22] that section between Lincoln Trail and
the end of
[17:27] what I'll call Webster is development,
but the end of that property, that whole
[17:31] stretch is really starting to turn bad.
The rest of it is in good shape. Even
[17:34] though the rest of it has experienced a
lot of flooding, it's in really good
[17:38] shape. It doesn't need to be addressed.
So, put those two in there. And then,
[17:45] uh, Shirley Boulevard, uh, there's a
small piece of that right by the, uh,
[17:50] right off of Highland. That's you, you
know, if it's noticeable. It's like
[17:54] whatever happened back when they paved
those roads, there's three or four
[17:58] sections. Those sections all
deteriorated terribly. I don't know
[18:05] that.
So, put those in there. And then, um, a
[18:10] small piece at the end of Otter Creek,
put that in there as well. So, if you
[18:14] look at all those now, all of that up,
that puts us right at about with my
[18:18] estimates about $200,000 of paving. I'm
confident my estimates are high because
[18:23] my quantities are high.
That'll come down. Um,
[18:29] we have $200,000 in our budget, but that
included some other monies too for salt
[18:35] and some signing, right?
All all of our signage and everything
[18:39] comes out.
Yeah. What what would we have roughly
[18:42] for
um
[18:43] 150ish,
right?
[18:46] If not, maybe a little bit 175 possible.
Well, I would suggest we leave that.
[18:53] We go ahead and bid those and see what
kind of numbers because if we pay them
[18:57] based on actual quantities, not a lump
sum bid.
[19:01] You're saying bid the group one
bid. No bid the top
[19:05] one, two, and three, which adds up to
about 200,000.
[19:08] Okay.
And that way because you do it based on
[19:10] actual quantities. You don't pay for
paving based on based on the street. You
[19:15] get asphalt tickets that they submit and
you pay them based on that tonnage.
[19:20] I think that's the way to go.
All the way down to autograph.
[19:23] Yeah,
it looks like a lot of these streets are
[19:25] some of our newer streets.
Uh well,
[19:32] well, I would say the Shirley Boulevard
area is in Tusky and Napa Valley. Those
[19:37] pieces those pieces were in the first uh
section.
[19:44] Those are 20 years old.
Yeah, they're 20 years old. They were
[19:46] built in.
They're not in the new piece.
[19:49] Yeah. They're older than you think.
Doesn't seem like it's been that way.
[19:51] Right. Right.
And and those particular pieces are
[19:55] getting a lot especially that piece on a
lot of everybody going in and out of a
[20:00] dollar dollar and all the way.
So that would be my recommendation is to
[20:06] bid all of those and then get real
numbers from the contractor and I'll
[20:11] I'll tighten up the quantities as well.
And then we we spend what we have in our
[20:16] budget. We don't go past.
That would be my suggestion to you. And
[20:22] then and then I went ahead and put the
rest in what I feel is in order. This
[20:26] could change in time, but that way we
know next year we can go to the next
[20:31] group, the next year. My son's going to
hop in here because we're going to have
[20:34] other things happen. There's going to be
a road that pops on here that we a pipe
[20:39] failure or a water man or things happen.
Um,
[20:46] so that would be my thoughts if you want
to.
[20:49] Are you okay with bidding down?
Good with that.
[20:52] Okay,
I'll I'll send those out. Um,
[20:54] hopefully it's less.
Yeah, we'll see. And and again, I I use
[20:58] my my unit prices from my estimate are
based on historical numbers. Ball
[21:03] prices, believe it or not, are down
right now. So when you pay at the pump,
[21:07] you notice it. We notice it here, too.
So that helps. Okay. Um,
[21:14] two more things. So, sorry, try to make
these quick. Rose Creek Drains
[21:18] improvements. Uh, Jessica and I have
been working um, diligently on getting
[21:23] in a grant application. I mentioned this
at your last meeting. The grant
[21:27] applications due on Wednesday. Got
everything filled out. Got everything
[21:31] submitted.
She was off today though. Dale,
[21:35] that's
she was off and not responding. So, I
[21:37] finally got an auto reply. We can
receive you submit.
[21:42] electronically, not manual about
did you receive it? So, keep your
[21:48] fingers crossed. We asked for a half
million dollars.
[21:51] She indicated to Jessica now that's not
out of line. It's not an unreasonable
[21:55] request. They would prefer to do larger
projects, a few larger projects than
[22:01] many smaller.
And so, we got everything from the
[22:05] homeowners.
Well, that no longer requires
[22:10] conservation efforts. So if we get this
grant, it's just a regular plan that we
[22:15] need for drainage. Everyone
until we know we have and we put that in
[22:21] the application. So we were
so
[22:31] Yeah, we got
we got everything. So Radcliffe wrote a
[22:34] letter in there.
Yeah. Sorry. Yes, he did.
[22:40] So, we'll see if we get a grant. That
would be great. We will find out by the
[22:44] end of August is what their application
say and Dale didn't confirm that, but
[22:51] that's what their application tells us.
All right, last one. On Alpine Drive, um
[22:56] 100 Alpine Drive, I met on Thursday
afternoon with um
[23:02] the name of the development.
So, that's the builder. Alpine drugs,
[23:07] not the state.
I know.
[23:09] 100 alkine drugs.
I know, but his representative was out
[23:13] there, which was a contractor,
correct?
[23:15] And we met, went over the improvements
that we felt I felt was needed. Uh, I
[23:20] gave you a real crude schematics. Don't
try and
[23:25] the the important things are the red
line and the green line. The red line
[23:28] means they're going to have to go in
there and reestablish the whole roadside
[23:32] swell. The green is they're going to
have to go in there and clean all that
[23:35] out. all that material washed downream
system. So, um
[23:42] he indicated to us he'd have that done
within two weeks. So, I I just pushed it
[23:48] to the end of that that week. So, July
25th should all be done. We're going to
[23:54] hold them to that.
Now, this is developers responsibility.
[23:57] Correct. We're not We're not No.
Correct. All I'm doing is is making sure
[24:02] those are supposed to Yeah. That's on
them. bad to do that. So Aaron and I met
[24:07] out there with them before they
get
[24:13] raintorm, but that didn't affect
anything. If it stays dry, they should
[24:17] be able to get back. The only thing I
would I told them is that we will likely
[24:21] have to have them come back in the fall
to reseed some areas because the grass
[24:25] is not going to take right
[24:32] which will be on them as well. So, I
think we'll put all that in a follow-up
[24:35] letter to them once we're satisfied they
addressed it. So, that was a lot I threw
[24:41] at you. I've got other things if you
want to talk about them, but otherwise
[24:44] I'll stop there.
Any questions?
[24:50] Do you have any response from the state
on on the sidewalk?
[24:54] Uh, no. And I'm not sure we can't send
asking that. Um we have to wait for
[25:01] approval to bid
cuz they have to release the money
[25:04] and then they tell us to bid for the
sidewalks on Knox, right?
[25:08] Yes.
Yeah. So on Knox Avenue, we're finished
[25:11] with everything we're supposed to do
except we still need to get the people
[25:15] to come in and sign the amusement
documents. Um we we'll get there
[25:21] close to
but that's not what's
[25:26] that's not homeless yet. It may, but we
we're still making mistakes,
[25:31] but we can't do it until they say
what's on.
[25:39] All right. Thank you.
Appreciate it.
[25:43] Okay. Next is new business possible
first reading of the budget budget
[25:48] amendment ordinance for fiscal year 2024
2025. This is a requirement. If we could
[25:54] get a sponsor, please.
I'll sponsor it. Thank you. Thank you.
[25:58] This is the city of Ninrove Kentucky
budget ordinance for fiscal year 2024
[26:02] 2025. An ordinance of the city of
Ninrove Kentucky amending the annual
[26:06] budget for the fiscal year July 1, 2024
through June 30, 2025 by estimating
[26:11] revenues and resources and appropriating
funds for the operation of the city
[26:14] government. Whereas an annual budget
proposal message has been prepared and
[26:17] delivered to the city council. Whereas
the city council has reviewed such
[26:20] budget proposal made necessary
modifications now therefore be ordained
[26:24] by the city of Vinero. Section one. The
annual budget for the fiscal year
[26:28] beginning July 1, 2024 and ending June
30, 2025 is amended as follows. Under
[26:35] estimated revenues, American Rescue Plan
Act funds are added at $823,395.
[26:43] City reserve account is added at
$486,39.
[26:48] Sewer reserve account is added at
$38,858.
[26:52] Storm water 2022C construction account
is added at $44,740.
[26:58] Total estimated revenues are amended to
read $8,243,92.
[27:04] Under estimated appropriations, general
government is amended to read $2,58,221.
[27:11] Water department is amended to
read1,541,610.
[27:16] Sewer department is amended to
read1,544,928.
[27:22] Police department is amended to read
$1,753,179.
[27:27] Fire department is amended to read
$1,22,764.
[27:31] And total estimated appropriations are
amended to read $8,243,92
[27:37] at his first reading. Mayor.
Okay.
[27:40] Thank you very much. All right. Next is
the city of Andro ethics ordinance. I'm
[27:45] going let Mike Pike present that,
please.
[27:47] Thank you, mayor. So, council, you've
received a draft of an ordinance.
[27:53] As you guys know, the county and all the
cities in the county have an ethics
[28:00] ordinance. the county and city of
Elizabeth Town wanted to revise the
[28:06] ordinances somewhat
and all of our ordinances basically read
[28:10] the same. So the thought process was
let's get together the legal council
[28:16] and what preceded that was KLC met with
representatives from the various cities
[28:21] and recommended uh that the ethics
ordinance be looked at and revamped and
[28:26] so that's what's happened. So, I met
with Harden County Attorney Jenny Olden,
[28:30] City of Etown attorney Ken Howard, who's
former county attorney himself, also
[28:34] former circuit judge. We met multiple
times to go over the ordinance and make
[28:39] sure that we agreed on the changes
because the the consensus is we all need
[28:44] to be operating under the same basic
ordinance, right? You don't have a code
[28:49] of ethics in Vine Grove that's different
from Rackcliffe, the county, Etown, etc.
[28:54] So, what I've done here, we put together
this ordinance. This ordinance is
[28:59] basically other than formatting and a
couple of name changes, it is the same
[29:03] ordinance for the county and all the
cities. What I want you to do, I want
[29:08] you to look at it. I want you to read
it. You're not going to vote on it
[29:12] anytime soon. I don't want you to even
consider voting on it until August.
[29:16] Okay? We're not going to not going to
vote on anything tonight. The first
[29:20] opportunity is August. And if you are
comfortable to vote on it, then fine. In
[29:26] the meantime, when you're reading it, if
you have questions, write down your
[29:30] questions and contact me so we can
discuss those questions. That being
[29:34] said, a lot of this is pretty
straightforward, right? As a rule of
[29:39] thumb, if you're asking, is it ethical
for me to do such and such? If you're
[29:43] asking, the answer may very well be
probably no. Right? But if you do ever
[29:51] have questions on ethical issues, right,
you know who to contact.
[29:56] So, I want you to read it and I want you
and I didn't summarize it because I want
[30:01] you to read it. You need to read it. It
covers you. It covers me. It covers
[30:07] everybody here. It covers all the
employees as well, both in our city and
[30:11] in the other cities and county as well.
And some things are just common sense,
[30:16] right?
But other things uh go into great
[30:20] detail, financial disclosures, etc.
Right? Okay. So, with that being said,
[30:25] uh I've given this to you. It's only 22
pages, give or take. So, I'm giving you
[30:32] some homework, but you need to read it.
You need to be familiar with it. And a
[30:37] lot of this stuff, I think, will make
sense. If it doesn't and you have
[30:41] questions or concerns, let me know.
One change in here that is new is a
[30:50] mandatory attendance
uh for meetings. So if you are a member
[30:55] of the council or a board or commission,
if you miss so many meetings, you're
[31:00] subject to being brought up on ethics
charges. Okay? That doesn't mean it's an
[31:05] automatic thing. But we've had some
absenteeism. Not really in our city
[31:11] or any city in the north end, but in the
south there, we've had some issues. So,
[31:16] I won't say any more than that, but um
it's an issue, right? If you're an
[31:23] elected official, you need to come to
the meetings. You need to be informed.
[31:26] You need to be participating.
And if you're not, then there's a
[31:30] problem.
Also, there will be uh mandatory
[31:36] uh training basically given by the
ethics board and their attorney
[31:41] uh each year. And so, we're still going
to work through that and see what that
[31:47] looks like. But, uh it's a good idea,
right? Especially in this day and age,
[31:54] we've got one of the largest budgets
we've ever had, maybe the largest
[31:57] budget, right? So, you guys are in
charge of a lot of money.
[32:00] and the mayor as well and the admin
staff. So, it's a good idea to have
[32:05] these things as refreshers.
Again, I want you to look over it. If
[32:10] you have any questions or concerns,
write them down, call me. Right? You
[32:14] guys got my numbers, you got my email,
be happy to talk about it.
[32:21] I'm not expecting any questions right
now, but does anybody have any
[32:24] questions?
Radcliffe just got theirs tonight. Okay.
[32:28] the county did their first reading
toward the end of June and just the way
[32:33] the calendar fell here we are in July.
So we're all trying to do it right
[32:37] around the same time.
So this version basically like I said is
[32:42] going to look like what fiscal court
will be looking at and what city of
[32:46] Etown and what city reckless will look
like and then West Point whatever those
[32:50] folks in West Point are doing
and not really sure what all they're
[32:55] doing but they're supposed to be
substituted as well. Any questions?
[33:02] Again, feel free to reach out. Okay.
Thank you.
[33:07] All right. Thank you very much. Okay.
Next is the um possible approval of fire
[33:13] department surplus request. I'm going to
let Chief Haddle explain to you what he
[33:17] has on that list.
[33:30] Good evening. Um, since we got the 2025
lighter truck in, our 1992 lighter truck
[33:39] is now surplus. The bad thing is, and we
were talking about this today, when we
[33:44] backed the 1992 in, its transmission
dropped as soon as we kept it off.
[33:50] So,
yeah, it's lucky. very very lucky. I
[33:54] mean, we we bandated and mandated for so
long. It's a 1992 fire truck. It lasted
[34:00] longer than I thought it would, let's be
honest with you. So, I would like to
[34:04] surplus that so we can get rid of it.
Also, we have a 2000 enclosed trailer,
[34:10] year 2000 closed trailer that we don't
use. Um, we're trying to find a title on
[34:14] it. We don't we're not for sure. We just
started on it today, but I would like to
[34:19] surplus those two things.
[34:31] All right.
Can I get a motion to go in surplus?
[34:36] I'll make a motion to surplus the fire
truck and the trailer
[34:41] and I'll second.
Okay. All in favor?
[34:45] Opposed?
[34:56] Okay, we are at the mayor council
comments. I'm going to start to my left
[35:01] with
Francisco.
[35:04] Okay, Mr. Rick. Okay, Mr. Dennis.
Okay, this is done. No,
[35:12] I just want to say congratulations to
North Middle School Beta Club that came
[35:17] to visit us. Um, they placed fifth in
the nation when they went down there and
[35:24] for the first time two Harton County
schools placed in the top five in the
[35:28] nation and with East Harton Middle being
number one, the number one school in the
[35:33] nation. So, we're very proud of ours.
Anything
[35:41] else? Okay.
All right. I have plenty. All right. So,
[35:46] this Friday is our first first Friday
this year. Our June one was cancelled.
[35:52] So, uh July 11th will be our first
Friday. It also be our um fireworks. So,
[35:57] we will start at 5:00 and probably end
around 10:30. Soon as it gets start, I
[36:02] think they aim for 10. The fireworks
will go off. So, we will have um
[36:08] uh we're having a DJ Friday night. We'll
have um uh vendors. We have food trucks.
[36:15] We have the kid area, the splash pad,
the playground will be open. Um we just
[36:20] have a lot of fun going on. Bring your
chair out. Join us for our first Friday
[36:24] this Friday. Um and then right after
that, we have the Mimosa Festival, which
[36:28] is July 26th. Um, you can go on to
eventbrite.com
[36:33] and put in mine mimosa and it'll pop up
because that's what I did and it'll pop
[36:38] up so you can buy your tickets. They're
$20 a piece. That's from 4 to 8 on that
[36:43] Saturday, July 26. So, I hope we've had
a lot of people already buy tickets. Um,
[36:47] hopefully we can get everybody there.
Um, and then,
[36:52] um, August 1st is our makeup first
Friday for the June 1st Friday that got
[36:57] rained out. So, we'll have Casey and
Romy at that one, the band, and then
[37:01] we'll have all the normal stuff that we
have at our first Fridays, the um kids
[37:06] area. Um we'll have u vendors and food
trucks and all that good stuff. So, and
[37:13] that one's 5 to 8 because we will not
have fireworks after that one. August
[37:16] August 1st on that one. So,
okay. Um, the next thing I want to talk
[37:24] to the council real quick about is the
pink firet truck. You all remember that?
[37:29] The breast cancer fire truck that we've
had in the city.
[37:32] It's not in good shape. Um, it's not
drivable. Is that correct, Chief?
[37:36] Yes, ma'am.
Okay. Chief came to me and talked to me
[37:39] about it. My thoughts were we could put
it in Jenny Park downtown, but it's too
[37:43] big. It won't fit. So, I was thinking
maybe we could put it in Optimus Park. I
[37:49] was want to hear some suggestions. If
you all want to think about it, it's
[37:52] fine. Just get back with me and let me
know. It's pretty big. How many feet is
[37:55] it, Chief?
Where would we park it? It's going to
[37:59] stay for a while.
38.
[38:01] I think 38 ft. I think that's right.
38 ft.
[38:03] Yes, ma'am.
I was thinking somewhere in Optimus
[38:05] Park. Um I'd love to have it just as
like a showcase for people to go up
[38:11] because it's signed by the bunch of
different breast cancer survivors. Um
[38:15] some have passed away since they did
this because it's been there. It's been
[38:19] years. How old is this truck?
It's a 1969 truck.
[38:22] Yeah, it's an old truck. So, I'd like to
keep it in the city because it is
[38:26] nostalgic and it is kind of a cool
piece. I just don't know what to do. So,
[38:31] if you want to think about it, get back
to me. Kind of tell me your thoughts. If
[38:34] you can get some input from other
people, that would be great.
[38:38] I think Optimus Park is kind of crowded
right now.
[38:40] It is. It's got a lot.
I don't know where to put it. We could
[38:43] go to Shabbo, but there's not a whole
lot. I don't want to put it in a spot
[38:47] where you can get bands.
Um, that's not the purpose right now.
[38:52] It's in the old salt bin building. Um, I
don't really want to. That's why I was
[38:57] thinking somewhere that's really visible
like downtown, but I don't know where
[39:01] we're going to put it.
Mayor.
[39:05] Yes, sir.
Put it out in front of city hall. And
[39:07] I'm just worried about vandalism at the
city park. We got cameras, but
[39:11] once it's done, it's done.
Put it at city hall. I mean,
[39:17] I'm just that's just a thought, but
yeah, I mean, it would be cool somewhere
[39:20] down here, but I don't know where we
have spot.
[39:24] I need to kind of not throw it up. Just
kind of make it nice, but I don't know
[39:28] where
[39:32] Well, that
would
[39:38] not be the same problem we have now,
right?
[39:42] It's going to block the piece the evo.
So think about it. It doesn't have to be
[39:49] done right now, but once we move it,
it's going to sit there because it's not
[39:54] it's not durable. So I don't really see
it being useful in the salt bin property
[40:00] right now.
Um
[40:11] um okay hopefully I see everybody Friday
at the first Friday event and we do not
[40:17] get rain. Would be wonderful if we did
not get rain Friday. So if I could get a
[40:22] motion to adjourn.
Okay.
[40:25] All in favor? I
opposed.
[40:28] All right. You guys have a good night.