1 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:05,680 OK, it is March 10th, 2026. Welcome out everybody. I am Mayor Zach Stratton and I'd like to open up our our City Council meeting. 2 00:12:05,940 --> 00:12:09,820 We have one of our amazing residents, Daria is going to lead us in the. 3 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:12,500 Say a prayer for us. 4 00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:16,420 Pledge of Allegiance? Yes, Sorry. 5 00:12:16,660 --> 00:12:18,380 Blank that for a second, so come on up. 6 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:19,180 Thank you. 7 00:12:19,780 --> 00:12:21,620 Thank you for this opportunity. Sure. 8 00:12:24,460 --> 00:12:25,740 Our Father in heaven. 9 00:12:26,770 --> 00:12:28,070 We are grateful. 10 00:12:28,460 --> 00:12:29,740 For the opportunity. 11 00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:34,340 Together, together as residents and City Council and staff. 12 00:12:35,220 --> 00:12:38,620 The opportunity we have to help vineyards become the. 13 00:12:39,180 --> 00:12:40,620 The city that. 14 00:12:42,010 --> 00:12:44,910 Would be a wonderful place to live. 15 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:49,820 That will encourage families and businesses to grow and live together in harmony. 16 00:12:50,180 --> 00:12:53,020 We're grateful for the efforts of this City Council. 17 00:12:53,380 --> 00:12:56,060 We pray that Thou will bless them in their efforts to. 18 00:12:57,420 --> 00:12:59,060 Make it a well run city. 19 00:12:59,340 --> 00:13:01,260 We're grateful for the staff too. 20 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:06,820 That put so many hours into their efforts and also the volunteers that. 21 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:10,140 Help out in this our city. We're grateful for all of them. 22 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,080 We pray that. 23 00:13:12,540 --> 00:13:18,110 We will be continue to be civil and kind and all that we say in and all that we do. 24 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:22,260 And these things we thank thee for. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 25 00:13:22,860 --> 00:13:23,780 Hey man, thank you. 26 00:13:23,860 --> 00:13:24,740 Please stand. 27 00:13:30,530 --> 00:13:32,970 I pledge allegiance to the flag. 28 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:35,300 Of the United States of America. 29 00:13:35,620 --> 00:13:38,140 And to the Republic for which it stands. 30 00:13:38,820 --> 00:13:40,420 One nation under God. 31 00:13:40,660 --> 00:13:41,740 Indivisible. 32 00:13:41,860 --> 00:13:43,900 With liberty and justice for all. 33 00:13:45,190 --> 00:13:45,670 Thank you. 34 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:47,220 And Daria. 35 00:13:47,540 --> 00:13:52,020 You get a pin, Prayers and pledges for pins. So. 36 00:13:52,980 --> 00:13:53,940 Thank you. Thank you. 37 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:56,020 OK, we are. 38 00:13:56,180 --> 00:13:59,380 Let's do this. Is anybody here for public comment? 39 00:14:00,420 --> 00:14:01,340 We have a couple. 40 00:14:01,420 --> 00:14:04,620 OK, let's do that. Let's jump into public comment. 41 00:14:04,780 --> 00:14:06,300 And then we will go to. 42 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:09,100 We'll do the closed door session after that so. 43 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:12,100 Yes, please, whoever like to come first, come on down. 44 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:20,780 State your name for the record. 45 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:21,580 And, umm. 46 00:14:22,060 --> 00:14:23,420 Yeah, great. 47 00:14:24,140 --> 00:14:25,740 My name is Tyler Harrelson. 48 00:14:26,820 --> 00:14:29,500 I'm here to talk to you about 400 S. 49 00:14:30,380 --> 00:14:31,620 I'm sure you guys have. 50 00:14:31,740 --> 00:14:33,300 Heard a couple years ago. 51 00:14:34,260 --> 00:14:38,900 First there was a boy who was hit there 5th grader. It's right between the elementary school and the. 52 00:14:38,980 --> 00:14:40,060 The park, so a lot of. 53 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:42,980 A lot of schoolchildren are passing across this road. 54 00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:44,420 5th grader got hit. 55 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:45,780 Practice goal. 56 00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:48,420 Was bleeding in three parts of his brain. 57 00:14:49,420 --> 00:14:50,020 Thankfully. 58 00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:51,100 Made it out. 59 00:14:52,140 --> 00:14:55,060 I don't know how OK he is, but he's alive. 60 00:14:55,820 --> 00:14:59,670 A year later, a 17 year old girl was running across and was hit and killed. 61 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:02,620 I would like. 62 00:15:02,740 --> 00:15:07,620 The council? I asked this of the last council before the girl got hit. 63 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:08,780 After the boy got hit. 64 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:11,540 I was on the bike advisory Commission and I said hey. 65 00:15:12,020 --> 00:15:16,030 Like we should do something about this. This road is dangerous and we should do it now. 66 00:15:16,220 --> 00:15:19,460 Like if you had a construction zone, you want to keep your construction. 67 00:15:19,620 --> 00:15:20,220 Construction. 68 00:15:21,180 --> 00:15:23,220 You build sort of these temporary. 69 00:15:23,580 --> 00:15:25,260 Cones and barrels type of. 70 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:27,620 Of barriers to keep them safe. 71 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:29,340 And I was like, why don't we do that? 72 00:15:29,740 --> 00:15:31,380 So we can respond quickly. 73 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:33,260 While we're working on a long term solution. 74 00:15:33,940 --> 00:15:35,260 That fell on deaf ears. 75 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:37,060 And then Sienna got hit. 76 00:15:37,140 --> 00:15:37,780 And killed. 77 00:15:38,140 --> 00:15:39,140 And after that I. 78 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:40,950 Came back to the council and said. 79 00:15:41,060 --> 00:15:41,940 We should do. 80 00:15:42,460 --> 00:15:44,300 As I said a year ago, we should. 81 00:15:44,660 --> 00:15:46,420 Do these cones and barrels and put up. 82 00:15:46,540 --> 00:15:47,380 Something safe? 83 00:15:47,540 --> 00:15:50,220 Immediately so someone doesn't get hit and killed again. 84 00:15:51,050 --> 00:15:52,710 And they basically told me. 85 00:15:52,860 --> 00:15:55,500 You know, it's a really sensitive time. Someone just died. 86 00:15:55,980 --> 00:15:57,780 So I came back several months later. 87 00:15:57,860 --> 00:16:00,700 After things had calmed down, said the same thing. 88 00:16:01,100 --> 00:16:01,820 Deaf ears. 89 00:16:02,060 --> 00:16:06,700 So I hope that you guys will listen more than the previous Council did. 90 00:16:07,540 --> 00:16:08,260 I think that. 91 00:16:08,540 --> 00:16:14,380 It's a little unorthodox to do this sort of thing, but I think it would be very beneficial. It's low cost. 92 00:16:14,780 --> 00:16:15,580 If you. 93 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:16,860 Put up a design that. 94 00:16:17,260 --> 00:16:18,980 Doesn't work for all your needs. 95 00:16:19,060 --> 00:16:21,300 You can take it back down or rearrange it. 96 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:23,740 Like the worst thing that you can get to is just. 97 00:16:23,820 --> 00:16:25,340 Taken down the cones and. 98 00:16:25,540 --> 00:16:27,140 Going back to what you're at right now. 99 00:16:28,060 --> 00:16:33,660 I think it's responsive to the needs of the local people. You can involve them into the decision. You can involve parents. 100 00:16:33,780 --> 00:16:35,380 So I would like you to do that. 101 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:37,380 That's actually a really good idea, thanks. 102 00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:42,630 I have been a supporter of Tyler's and he if we could sit. 103 00:16:42,700 --> 00:16:45,140 And learn about it. I sent. 104 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:47,100 I didn't send you, but I sent the other. 105 00:16:47,220 --> 00:16:48,660 Gentleman, that was with you that day. 106 00:16:49,180 --> 00:16:51,100 They're great. They bolt right into the road. 107 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,830 And when citizens complain about the speed? 108 00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:55,100 They're really great. 109 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:56,860 For slowing it down. 110 00:16:57,220 --> 00:17:01,180 Yeah, if we're going to build the road that we are on, 400 SI want them right on my house. 111 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:02,300 Because they die fast. 112 00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:04,660 Yeah, that's my comment. 113 00:17:04,740 --> 00:17:05,460 Thank you. 114 00:17:08,860 --> 00:17:10,740 I might just add that we have. 115 00:17:11,060 --> 00:17:13,780 1 intersection there by the by the. 116 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:16,020 The West side of the school. This. 117 00:17:16,220 --> 00:17:17,740 Going to be rebuilt this coming. 118 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:22,660 Season and so that'll help there a great deal and on the other side we're. 119 00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:24,700 Sierra, I'm at her end over there. 120 00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:30,260 We've been trying to, we've been starting to get in talks with that. It's been restricted already. That's already started to help. 121 00:17:30,540 --> 00:17:31,100 I think. 122 00:17:31,340 --> 00:17:32,340 And then we're. 123 00:17:32,540 --> 00:17:34,900 We have we're in talks to try to realign that. 124 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:36,020 Intersection as well. 125 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:37,940 Yeah. And that's great. 126 00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:42,660 It's just it takes so long and it can be very expensive and. 127 00:17:42,860 --> 00:17:43,540 I think it. 128 00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:45,940 You know, human errors a thing so. 129 00:17:46,620 --> 00:17:49,780 Maybe the new design won't do what you want. I think it'd be better to. 130 00:17:50,140 --> 00:17:55,140 Put it up in cones and barrels as much as you can. Obviously you can't realign an intersection with cones and barrels. 131 00:17:55,420 --> 00:17:58,020 But as much as you can to do it now, test it out now. 132 00:17:58,740 --> 00:18:00,180 And then put in the permanent. 133 00:18:00,460 --> 00:18:02,460 While you're working on the permanent solution. 134 00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:03,660 So thank you. 135 00:18:04,060 --> 00:18:04,700 Thank you, Sir. 136 00:18:06,410 --> 00:18:07,390 Julie, did you want? 137 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:10,300 Or who? Who else? Who outside of? Yes, please come on up. 138 00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:11,430 OK, thanks. 139 00:18:14,170 --> 00:18:19,150 So I was just writing. Oh, sorry. Sherry K Miller, Holdaway Rd. member of the Arts Commission. 140 00:18:19,780 --> 00:18:21,180 OK, I'm. 141 00:18:22,020 --> 00:18:28,020 Trying to write down these things because I just found out tonight that there's going to be a discussion on the Arch Commission. 142 00:18:28,380 --> 00:18:29,860 The grant proposals. 143 00:18:30,460 --> 00:18:37,020 So I'm here as a citizen and a member of that. So I just want to give you a little bit of a heads up of what the process has been. 144 00:18:37,380 --> 00:18:38,460 So last fall. 145 00:18:39,370 --> 00:18:45,430 Oh sorry I'm out of breath. The the grants we had $20,000 that we as an arts Commission where? 146 00:18:45,860 --> 00:18:47,950 Designed to get proposals. 147 00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:50,790 And then decide and. 148 00:18:52,580 --> 00:18:55,740 Proportion out what we thought was the best for Vineyard City. 149 00:18:55,860 --> 00:18:57,060 OK, so that was done. 150 00:18:57,780 --> 00:19:03,300 We actually on January 15th met and we as members of the Commission. 151 00:19:03,580 --> 00:19:05,870 Were to score all of the proposals. 152 00:19:06,380 --> 00:19:11,580 Anyway, so on the 15th they showed that the proposals had been scored. 153 00:19:12,220 --> 00:19:16,360 And I don't remember all that. I was trying to look it up on the phone right now from Brian Vaudrey, but the Vineyard Heritage 154 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:20,500 Commission had scored the highest as far as. 155 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:23,790 In that initial discussion of what was. 156 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:29,060 A good and needed thing for the for Vineyard and the proposal for Vineyard Heritage Foundation was. 157 00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:31,030 To prepare. 158 00:19:31,220 --> 00:19:35,140 4th grade curriculum for the four schools. Elementary schools in Vineyard. 159 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:37,940 I had previously before. 160 00:19:38,020 --> 00:19:41,260 Talked to principals and other people and had. 161 00:19:41,540 --> 00:19:42,580 A sense that it was. 162 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:43,700 A desirable thing. 163 00:19:43,780 --> 00:19:46,540 Principals, teachers liked it anyway. OK. 164 00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:49,100 So we had the discussion. 165 00:19:49,180 --> 00:19:50,860 Proportions were made. It was that. 166 00:19:50,980 --> 00:19:53,260 The Heritage Foundation was to get 700. 167 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,160 57,500 and I. 168 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:58,740 Don't have all the other amounts, It doesn't matter. 169 00:19:59,180 --> 00:20:00,180 Anyway, so. 170 00:20:01,610 --> 00:20:04,590 It was going to be voted on in the city. It didn't get voted on. 171 00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:07,340 We anyway they met again. 172 00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:13,510 I happen to be out of town. I've missed 2 meetings in the three years that I have been part of it. I missed this meeting. 173 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:17,900 And I'm away with family on an event and I get this e-mail from Brian that says. 174 00:20:17,980 --> 00:20:19,740 Just want to let you know how they went. 175 00:20:20,140 --> 00:20:21,580 And it turned out that. 176 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:23,100 Without great detail. 177 00:20:23,450 --> 00:20:26,100 The Heritage Commission ended up getting $0.00. 178 00:20:26,730 --> 00:20:28,850 So we went from having. 179 00:20:29,450 --> 00:20:31,890 The highest grading as far as the. 180 00:20:32,290 --> 00:20:33,130 This group. 181 00:20:33,730 --> 00:20:35,530 To 0. 182 00:20:36,130 --> 00:20:37,530 And then not even not. 183 00:20:37,610 --> 00:20:38,690 Even that. 184 00:20:38,770 --> 00:20:40,010 Was the fact that. 185 00:20:40,170 --> 00:20:41,650 They had decided that. 186 00:20:41,730 --> 00:20:42,770 Some of the money. 187 00:20:43,530 --> 00:20:47,610 Was going to be held over to go to the skate park that already had half $1,000,000 allocated for it that they weren't even going 188 00:20:47,610 --> 00:20:51,690 to give that to the Heritage Foundation. 189 00:20:51,930 --> 00:20:54,890 It was just going to be held over for another year and not used. 190 00:20:54,970 --> 00:20:56,130 For this project. 191 00:20:56,290 --> 00:20:57,410 And I was just like. 192 00:20:57,650 --> 00:20:59,010 I mean, it was a gut punch. 193 00:20:59,170 --> 00:21:00,850 And these were the reasons that they gave. 194 00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:03,060 The teachers may not want to teach it. 195 00:21:03,170 --> 00:21:04,450 Right. How? Whatever. 196 00:21:04,570 --> 00:21:05,730 How are you going to do it? 197 00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:07,730 Blah blah blah blah. 198 00:21:07,890 --> 00:21:08,570 And. 199 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:10,050 That one of them was. 200 00:21:10,290 --> 00:21:16,010 And the money that the Heritage Foundation got for the sign for the Geneva ladle, they haven't spent the money yet. 201 00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:17,490 So I just want to. 202 00:21:17,890 --> 00:21:19,610 Just to let people know. 203 00:21:20,130 --> 00:21:24,510 That after we had the initial grant that we thought we were going to get for Seven 500, I had already contacted Ben Johnson, who 204 00:21:24,510 --> 00:21:28,890 is the history. 205 00:21:29,410 --> 00:21:32,170 Education and history professor at University of Utah. 206 00:21:32,690 --> 00:21:33,610 We were already. 207 00:21:33,690 --> 00:21:34,570 Having. 208 00:21:34,970 --> 00:21:41,290 He had contacted principals that he knew and and teachers and we were already in the process of doing this. 209 00:21:41,410 --> 00:21:42,500 And then we find out. 210 00:21:42,650 --> 00:21:43,810 We get $0.00. 211 00:21:43,890 --> 00:21:47,690 So that discounts the fact that and I won't mention names. 212 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:50,770 That they were saying they wouldn't like it, blah blah blah blah. 213 00:21:51,450 --> 00:21:52,090 And that. 214 00:21:52,490 --> 00:21:54,010 Principals wouldn't be interested. 215 00:21:54,650 --> 00:21:55,370 And then? 216 00:21:55,490 --> 00:21:57,260 The last thing, just for what it's worth. 217 00:21:57,490 --> 00:22:02,860 We've worked really hard for this sign that's going to be up in front of the ladle and it's going to be amazing. 218 00:22:03,010 --> 00:22:04,250 We had 7. 219 00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:06,770 7 estimates. 220 00:22:07,170 --> 00:22:08,530 Refining Design. 221 00:22:08,690 --> 00:22:12,370 Blah, blah, blah. It's already under contract. It's going to be up and wonderful so. 222 00:22:12,610 --> 00:22:13,890 It was just a gut punch. 223 00:22:14,010 --> 00:22:16,250 I'm just letting you know that that is. 224 00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:20,350 What happened? And the only thing I want to say is you can decide if you think that this is right or the process worked 225 00:22:20,350 --> 00:22:23,970 efficiently. 226 00:22:24,370 --> 00:22:27,650 Thank you so much. One clarifying question, Sherry Kay. 227 00:22:27,850 --> 00:22:32,050 We have a question too for you. That's all right way fast. 228 00:22:32,770 --> 00:22:37,223 You want to go first. The ladle you're referring to, is that the one over there by the forge? Kind of, yes. And I have pictures. I 229 00:22:37,223 --> 00:22:41,676 can show you what it's going to look like if you go ahead. So the previous proposal for how that grant money was going to be spent 230 00:22:41,676 --> 00:22:46,129 was actually given to the council back in January. 231 00:22:46,290 --> 00:22:49,450 We had it on an agenda item to review and when. 232 00:22:49,650 --> 00:22:51,090 It came up to be. 233 00:22:51,170 --> 00:22:51,930 Discussed. 234 00:22:52,570 --> 00:22:56,230 Parks and Rec asked us to not discuss it yet then. And do you know why that is? I actually emailed Brian Vaudrey and I said Brian 235 00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:59,890 question. 236 00:23:00,090 --> 00:23:00,770 Oh, I'm sorry. 237 00:23:01,490 --> 00:23:02,090 He had. 238 00:23:02,450 --> 00:23:04,220 To set in that meeting. 239 00:23:06,330 --> 00:23:08,010 That there was still time. 240 00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:11,110 Before the grant needed to be finalized and they were looking at, you know, some reallocation of a couple things, specifically the 241 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:14,130 skate park money. 242 00:23:14,210 --> 00:23:16,370 Was what he had said in that that meeting. 243 00:23:16,890 --> 00:23:20,950 Do you know of other factors that maybe influence that delay? Well, you know what I got in, I got the e-mail saying that it's 244 00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:25,010 going to be discussed tonight and I said, Brian. 245 00:23:25,130 --> 00:23:26,970 We we didn't finalize this. 246 00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:28,180 I said. 247 00:23:28,330 --> 00:23:29,650 My question was. 248 00:23:29,810 --> 00:23:32,330 We don't. We haven't talked to the city about liability. 249 00:23:32,970 --> 00:23:37,410 We haven't talked about these things. It wasn't decided on in the Arts Commission. 250 00:23:37,810 --> 00:23:38,730 As a whole. 251 00:23:38,850 --> 00:23:39,410 I mean. 252 00:23:39,610 --> 00:23:41,050 And I hadn't missed any meetings. 253 00:23:41,410 --> 00:23:42,490 So he said. 254 00:23:42,610 --> 00:23:46,850 You're right, whatever. And so it got postponed and I'm not trying to take credit for it, but. 255 00:23:46,930 --> 00:23:49,010 It just hasn't run very. 256 00:23:49,250 --> 00:23:51,970 Smooth, efficiently communication. 257 00:23:53,370 --> 00:23:57,210 Whatever, I would also just be curious into looking into why the. 258 00:23:57,730 --> 00:24:01,940 They took away that chunk of money from the Arts Commission, if I recall correctly, and I take pretty. 259 00:24:02,090 --> 00:24:05,850 Not from the Arts Commission, the foundation. Oh, my apologies. That's great. 260 00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:10,260 That all of us were kind of in agreeance that that was a good. 261 00:24:10,690 --> 00:24:17,180 Good allocation of those funds because it allowed, you know, for support when we do events and volunteerism and things like that. 262 00:24:17,410 --> 00:24:18,730 Yeah, so I. 263 00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:23,050 Well, and like I said that when Brian sent me that e-mail and then this is what the members of the Arts Commission had said, that 264 00:24:23,050 --> 00:24:26,650 why they had taken it to 0. 265 00:24:27,170 --> 00:24:31,740 Principals aren't interested teachers. Whatever. We can have a book in the library. I mean, it was just like. 266 00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:34,010 You know what I mean? It was like. 267 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:35,930 We already had. 268 00:24:36,290 --> 00:24:37,980 All of those things were already. 269 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:39,010 Locked and loaded. 270 00:24:39,250 --> 00:24:39,930 Yeah, OK. 271 00:24:40,410 --> 00:24:42,930 You're awesome. Thank you so much. Sorry. Thank you. 272 00:24:43,210 --> 00:24:45,210 Awesome. All right. Anybody else? 273 00:24:45,930 --> 00:24:47,170 Yes, come on down. 274 00:24:55,980 --> 00:25:00,220 Sorry, while you're coming up, Sherry, are you planning to stick around for the agenda item as well? 275 00:25:00,570 --> 00:25:02,450 I figured I'd just hold my questions till then. 276 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,000 In town, so I would. 277 00:25:06,450 --> 00:25:06,770 So I could. 278 00:25:08,130 --> 00:25:09,130 When is it in another? 279 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,180 Could we maybe just move that one up so we can? 280 00:25:12,290 --> 00:25:14,850 Yeah, have her input. I do have some more questions. 281 00:25:15,050 --> 00:25:15,850 For sure. 282 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,640 I'm Darlene Price, I live in the Villas, and I want to say first of all, kudos for whoever painted the bike lane in the crosswalk 283 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,360 screen that are over by Bella's restaurant Bella's. 284 00:25:28,770 --> 00:25:31,210 Shopping thing and they really stand out. 285 00:25:31,410 --> 00:25:32,290 And I was. 286 00:25:33,450 --> 00:25:34,850 Wondering if it was? 287 00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:39,190 If that was something that they were required to do or is it something that we can do with our bike lanes that we have on venue 288 00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:43,290 on? 289 00:25:43,930 --> 00:25:44,970 Vineyard Rd. 290 00:25:46,170 --> 00:25:48,810 They get lost the second you turn the corner. 291 00:25:49,170 --> 00:25:50,810 And you're driving in a bike lane. 292 00:25:51,290 --> 00:25:54,290 And and I found myself doing that more than once. 293 00:25:55,370 --> 00:25:57,810 I am concerned about still. 294 00:25:59,250 --> 00:26:01,650 The the Sheriff's Department and. 295 00:26:02,170 --> 00:26:04,810 What are the? What are the rules for? 296 00:26:06,090 --> 00:26:09,090 Now that we've moved into motor scooters. 297 00:26:09,530 --> 00:26:12,170 That are small. That little kids are writing. 298 00:26:14,330 --> 00:26:16,610 I about hit this kid coming out of. 299 00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:18,980 Hold away. 300 00:26:19,410 --> 00:26:21,650 Road add on to is it Vineyard? 301 00:26:22,530 --> 00:26:24,850 That intersection where the basketball court is. 302 00:26:25,170 --> 00:26:26,890 OK, so he was coming. 303 00:26:27,010 --> 00:26:29,690 Out of there. And he didn't even stop. 304 00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:35,310 He just went straight out into the road, so I slammed on my brakes and he looked at me like, what are you doing? And then he went 305 00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:40,490 over the other side and the person coming the other way about hit him. 306 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,120 And he was like maybe six or seven years old. 307 00:26:44,450 --> 00:26:46,650 And he probably didn't hit the flashing lights either, right? 308 00:26:47,050 --> 00:26:48,650 Probably would be my guess. 309 00:26:48,850 --> 00:26:52,610 That you know what The cars. The cars don't stop for that either. 310 00:26:52,970 --> 00:26:56,450 So I just think there needs to be some education. 311 00:26:56,930 --> 00:27:00,130 Especially with the kids, especially those motorized bikes. 312 00:27:00,770 --> 00:27:01,730 The Street. 313 00:27:02,730 --> 00:27:05,770 If we painted the lanes green. 314 00:27:06,130 --> 00:27:07,930 You say you have to drive in the Green Lane. 315 00:27:08,050 --> 00:27:10,450 Yeah, this is my thought. I appreciate it. Thank you. Especially right now when it's starting to warm up and everyone's getting 316 00:27:10,450 --> 00:27:12,850 out so. 317 00:27:12,930 --> 00:27:13,610 David Carlos. 318 00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:17,955 Get with communications, we talked about that, just doing some education posts and pushing that out there with withholding. Are 319 00:27:17,955 --> 00:27:22,140 there are there rules for that? Are there laws for that? 320 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,210 Yeah, please go ahead, Holden. That'd be so the state legislature we were we I'd been asked to look into updating our ordinances 321 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:30,940 regarding the motorized. 322 00:27:31,210 --> 00:27:33,130 Or electric scooters, electric bikes, all the. 323 00:27:33,250 --> 00:27:34,290 All the electric things. 324 00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:38,615 But the state and what the legislative session, they had a couple, they had a bill regarding that and I'm waiting to see how that 325 00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:41,700 turned out before we. 326 00:27:41,850 --> 00:27:46,630 Draft our ordinance to make sure we don't conflict with the state. Well, I think we went from skateboards to motorized all of a 327 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:51,410 sudden and we weren't ready for that. There definitely are a lot of them, but yeah, we are working on that. 328 00:27:51,530 --> 00:27:53,130 Yeah. OK. Thank you. 329 00:27:53,210 --> 00:27:54,010 You're awesome. 330 00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:54,890 OK. 331 00:27:56,370 --> 00:27:57,890 Yeah, please. Come on up, Sir. 332 00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:01,490 State your name, Ryan Francis. I live in the gardens. 333 00:28:01,730 --> 00:28:05,270 Excuse me, ignorance haven't been one of these. There's an agenda item about parking and occupancy if I comment now or do I do it 334 00:28:05,270 --> 00:28:08,810 when you do that? 335 00:28:09,010 --> 00:28:12,850 The comment now that'd be great. OK then we'll probably take as we're talking about, we'll ask you. 336 00:28:13,050 --> 00:28:17,570 OK, great. I've lived here for 10 years in the gardens and we just have a. 337 00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:19,730 Two houses. Actually, three houses. 338 00:28:20,050 --> 00:28:23,370 That are over renting. They have a renter upstairs and renter downstairs that are not. 339 00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:27,690 They're not they're and they're not living in the primary residence. 340 00:28:27,770 --> 00:28:32,150 It creates a huge problem for us just with parking. Kind of what really spurred me to be like really adamant about this is my 341 00:28:32,150 --> 00:28:36,530 daughter almost got hit by a car. She was crossing the street to her neighbor's house. They had like. 342 00:28:36,650 --> 00:28:38,890 5 or 6 cars because they have so many occupants. 343 00:28:39,050 --> 00:28:41,050 And they came around a long corner and. 344 00:28:41,130 --> 00:28:43,050 Luckily she didn't get hit. It was really close and. 345 00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:46,810 We reported this like, I don't know, 5 or 6 times. 346 00:28:48,730 --> 00:28:49,770 We've even had. 347 00:28:50,770 --> 00:28:54,210 Cash over to my house. We had a big discussion and everything as a neighborhood. 348 00:28:54,610 --> 00:28:56,820 It feels to me a little bit like it falls on deaf ears. 349 00:28:56,930 --> 00:29:00,580 And or there's a lot of loopholes that allow them to keep doing what they're doing, like. 350 00:29:00,890 --> 00:29:02,650 One of the renters tried to have the 2. 351 00:29:02,770 --> 00:29:07,730 Groups enter an LLC together and become owner of the house so they can be in the house. 352 00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:12,330 And then he had him sign as his roommates and it's just kind of a mess and. 353 00:29:13,610 --> 00:29:15,290 It's just something that. 354 00:29:15,370 --> 00:29:19,610 I mean, I, I'm very active in this community is like park and recs. I coach a lot of teams. I really love Vineyard, but it is a 355 00:29:19,610 --> 00:29:23,850 driving force to make us leave the community because. 356 00:29:24,050 --> 00:29:25,650 It's such a problem and. 357 00:29:25,810 --> 00:29:26,770 We reported. 358 00:29:27,170 --> 00:29:30,260 The corner house even and recently because they. 359 00:29:30,370 --> 00:29:33,475 They've moved people out, So what they'll do is they'll get reported, they'll move out people in the basement, and then a month 360 00:29:33,475 --> 00:29:36,580 later they'll just move more people in. 361 00:29:36,890 --> 00:29:37,570 And uh. 362 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:43,300 He came to my house and got confronted my wife about reporting them and was told that the city. 363 00:29:43,370 --> 00:29:47,370 Gave her name to him, the owner of the house. So he knocked on my door. 364 00:29:47,810 --> 00:29:50,810 And said, why are you reporting? Why are you harassing my people and. 365 00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:54,970 Had a like got really upset with my wife which I'm not really happy about either so. 366 00:29:55,210 --> 00:30:00,330 It's just frustrating because, and I am here because I just want to applaud like. 367 00:30:00,570 --> 00:30:05,410 Ezra Nair and Jacob Wood because I feel like there is some traction being talked about with things. 368 00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:07,250 It's just something that is. 369 00:30:07,690 --> 00:30:10,210 I feel really passionate about and even my next door neighbor. 370 00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:11,890 They just moved in. They just built an AUD. 371 00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:15,210 Or whatever ado you or whatever it is. 372 00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:17,500 And. 373 00:30:18,210 --> 00:30:20,930 They he just put us on in his garage. 374 00:30:21,090 --> 00:30:23,850 And has two cars in his driveway. 375 00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:28,770 Has his two renters on the street and has two company cars on the street as well. So now he has. 376 00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:30,330 5. 377 00:30:31,170 --> 00:30:35,090 I mean, his five vehicles on the street and our roads just aren't built for it and. 378 00:30:35,530 --> 00:30:37,850 You know, we just moved your sister into our neighborhood. 379 00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:40,650 Probably the nicest person I've ever met my whole life, by the way. 380 00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:42,290 And and. 381 00:30:43,090 --> 00:30:48,130 That you will talk to her and I'm sure she'll mention that there's a gentleman next door. Where do you live? I live in just like. 382 00:30:48,370 --> 00:30:51,170 There's an elbow near her so I just live over there, but OK. 383 00:30:51,410 --> 00:30:55,090 Anyway, I really mean that. She's so nice, but you'll probably talk to her and there's someone who. 384 00:30:55,170 --> 00:30:59,850 Parks a huge boat in that neighborhood and just moves it around and yeah, there's just some things that happen that I, I really 385 00:30:59,850 --> 00:31:04,530 applaud that this is happening. So I just am here to voice my support of that and. 386 00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:05,810 Would appreciate if. 387 00:31:06,130 --> 00:31:07,650 So we could have some kind of change. 388 00:31:08,050 --> 00:31:09,250 Yeah. Thank you for the time. 389 00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:13,590 I I hear about the over occupancy issue probably every day. I have a similar situation. My next door so my wife we're aligned so 390 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:17,730 we're. 391 00:31:17,850 --> 00:31:18,650 Do what we can. 392 00:31:19,530 --> 00:31:20,410 Anybody else? 393 00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:21,410 Before. 394 00:31:21,890 --> 00:31:24,090 OK, you don't have. 395 00:31:24,210 --> 00:31:27,490 Reports on the agenda. Can I share on that real quick? Yeah, go ahead. 396 00:31:27,610 --> 00:31:30,130 Go ahead. So a couple weeks ago. 397 00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:33,450 For the people who had been following along with City Council. 398 00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:35,690 We had a lot of. 399 00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:36,570 Outreach. Uh. 400 00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:37,450 From uh. 401 00:31:38,490 --> 00:31:41,170 Le Cheminant and the surrounding neighborhoods over there. 402 00:31:42,490 --> 00:31:45,610 To get a better understanding of what that looked like. 403 00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:47,930 I made it a point to go drive. 404 00:31:48,050 --> 00:31:50,330 Through that neighborhood between 8:00 and 10:00 PM. 405 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:52,210 A couple nights. 406 00:31:52,290 --> 00:31:53,090 Two weeks ago. 407 00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:55,410 And I was. 408 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,380 Really surprised at how bad the problem actually was. 409 00:32:01,810 --> 00:32:03,770 I counted 5 stop signs. 410 00:32:03,850 --> 00:32:06,210 That were completely and totally blocked. 411 00:32:06,650 --> 00:32:09,610 There were houses that had cars hanging off of. 412 00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:11,690 Sidewalks, I mean, just. 413 00:32:12,980 --> 00:32:14,620 There were houses that had, you know. 414 00:32:14,730 --> 00:32:15,810 Full driveways. 415 00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:21,410 And both sides of the street and both sides of the house, I mean, just completely blocked. So visibility was poor. There were cars 416 00:32:21,410 --> 00:32:26,930 that were parked on red, red curbs. I mean, the whole kitten caboodle blocked fire hydrants. 417 00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:29,130 I reached out to. 418 00:32:29,530 --> 00:32:30,610 Chief Deputy Holden. 419 00:32:30,970 --> 00:32:32,650 That evening and just asked. 420 00:32:33,050 --> 00:32:36,410 You know, would you, when you have the available manpower send somebody to just go patrol that because I think a little bit of 421 00:32:36,410 --> 00:32:39,770 enforcement when it comes to. 422 00:32:39,890 --> 00:32:42,650 Blocking the stop sign, blocking the fire hydrants. 423 00:32:43,890 --> 00:32:47,250 A little bit of enforcement probably goes a long way to deterring that. 424 00:32:47,370 --> 00:32:49,930 I did also note in some of those neighborhoods there's. 425 00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:51,490 Areas where there aren't. 426 00:32:51,810 --> 00:32:52,890 Any cars parked? 427 00:32:53,370 --> 00:32:55,570 Which means that people are just parking in those. 428 00:32:56,050 --> 00:33:00,300 Unsafe positions largely for their own convenience. At least that's what that signals to me. 429 00:33:00,410 --> 00:33:03,250 As opposed to parking down the road and walking to their house. 430 00:33:03,370 --> 00:33:06,210 So I think a little bit of enforcement goes a long way. I'd like to, you know, request that when there's that availability we 431 00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:09,050 keep. 432 00:33:09,170 --> 00:33:13,250 Looking at how to alleviate that that safety issue just by sending somebody over and. 433 00:33:13,530 --> 00:33:15,730 Writing a ticket when it's obviously an illegal park. 434 00:33:15,850 --> 00:33:17,580 Yeah, OK. Thank you, Sir. 435 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,420 OK, Holden wants to say something. Holden to follow up. Oh, please go ahead and your request. 436 00:33:22,530 --> 00:33:26,090 I think we've written 10 citations in that neighborhood since your call. 437 00:33:26,370 --> 00:33:31,170 Towed some vehicles and stickered a whole bunch of vehicles as well. OK appreciate that. Go Team USA. 438 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,620 Go team Sheriffs. 439 00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:35,810 OK, all righty. 440 00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:38,570 With that, yeah, Sir, please come on down. 441 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:48,320 So my name is Mike Lamont. I'm the CEO of Utah Parking Authority. I was just coming to watch today, but this kind of spurred some. 442 00:33:48,410 --> 00:33:49,930 Some thoughts that I thought I'd bring up. 443 00:33:51,250 --> 00:33:55,110 I think there's a lot of miscommunication that's going on with parking enforcement right now and the needs I've been watching the 444 00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:58,970 last couple weeks. 445 00:33:59,850 --> 00:34:06,970 Your proceedings online and it seems like there are a lot of residents. We, we are the contracted company for your public streets. 446 00:34:07,090 --> 00:34:07,810 Right now. 447 00:34:08,330 --> 00:34:09,610 In Vineyard and. 448 00:34:10,410 --> 00:34:13,690 I just think there's a lot of miscommunication and and. 449 00:34:14,290 --> 00:34:16,690 Stuff around parking enforcement right now and. 450 00:34:17,290 --> 00:34:18,410 You know the use of. 451 00:34:18,650 --> 00:34:19,970 Predatory parking. 452 00:34:20,090 --> 00:34:21,890 Enforcement is being thrown around. 453 00:34:23,610 --> 00:34:25,290 You can really see. 454 00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:30,690 The needs of the of the city for some type of enforcement and. 455 00:34:31,890 --> 00:34:32,850 You know in. 456 00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:35,090 In general, kind of the way that. 457 00:34:35,210 --> 00:34:36,290 Parking goes. 458 00:34:36,650 --> 00:34:37,890 There's either the. 459 00:34:37,970 --> 00:34:40,610 The city or the private property owner, Which? 460 00:34:41,130 --> 00:34:45,110 It appears have the same needs. You know that whether it's a private road or a public St. you know they have the same needs. 461 00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:49,090 There's over occupancy, there's way too many cars on the road. 462 00:34:49,450 --> 00:34:50,130 And. 463 00:34:50,250 --> 00:34:52,780 So it's it's an issue that we've been dealing with for a while. 464 00:34:54,090 --> 00:34:55,690 But more specifically. 465 00:34:57,370 --> 00:34:58,810 On the public roads. 466 00:34:59,810 --> 00:35:04,970 300 W for example, you know you guys, you guys decided to not require a permit there anymore. 467 00:35:05,330 --> 00:35:09,850 But when that was initially rolled out, it was rolled out in a way that. 468 00:35:10,450 --> 00:35:12,850 There were months of notifications. There were. 469 00:35:13,090 --> 00:35:14,210 25. 470 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:18,260 Courtesy signs put all along the road saying. 471 00:35:18,490 --> 00:35:21,490 A permit for the public Rd. was was necessary. 472 00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:27,370 We put all our signs at all the entrances to those roads saying that you will be towed if you don't have a permit. 473 00:35:28,690 --> 00:35:29,780 You know, and then. 474 00:35:30,490 --> 00:35:34,820 We have a member of the City Council that goes on to KSL News and says. 475 00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:40,450 Over 200 cars were booted every every car on the road. Over 200 cars were booted in a night. 476 00:35:40,850 --> 00:35:41,450 Which is. 477 00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:43,010 Absolutely not true. 478 00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:46,010 There were never more than 10 cars booted. 479 00:35:46,930 --> 00:35:51,010 Sounds like kind of the same type of issue that's going on in other communities, but. 480 00:35:52,290 --> 00:35:55,210 You know, I just want to make myself available to the Council. 481 00:35:56,610 --> 00:36:00,450 We take very detailed records of every enforcement that we do. 482 00:36:00,530 --> 00:36:04,890 There is never a time that we're going to enforce something that you haven't specifically asked for. So if you ask us to go at 483 00:36:04,890 --> 00:36:09,250 1:15 AM to 5:00 AM. 484 00:36:09,970 --> 00:36:13,650 Boot cars on this public Rd. that don't have a permit. 485 00:36:13,730 --> 00:36:16,530 That's what we're going to do and so to be. 486 00:36:17,250 --> 00:36:18,210 Cast as. 487 00:36:18,330 --> 00:36:20,250 Predatory in that way when we're. 488 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,220 Not only limiting enforcement, but doing exactly what? 489 00:36:24,330 --> 00:36:27,210 We've been contracted to do, you know, it's a little bit frustrating and. 490 00:36:27,730 --> 00:36:30,170 And you know, we, we are. 491 00:36:30,570 --> 00:36:33,450 Here to serve the Vineyard community, whether it be. 492 00:36:33,850 --> 00:36:37,530 On the public streets or the private streets, which like I said, have the same. 493 00:36:38,410 --> 00:36:40,930 Issues going on right now in Vineyard City, but. 494 00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:42,210 But uh. 495 00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:45,130 With that being said, if there is ever a dispute or a complaint. 496 00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:47,610 On parking enforcement matter. 497 00:36:48,690 --> 00:36:51,610 At any point you guys can call my office. 498 00:36:51,730 --> 00:36:53,090 Text my cell phone. 499 00:36:53,330 --> 00:36:55,050 Holden has my cell phone number. 500 00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:59,130 You guys can text me and say hey, I've got a dispute on this. Someone's claiming to have been. 501 00:36:59,730 --> 00:37:01,730 Sitting in their car when they got booted. 502 00:37:02,330 --> 00:37:09,090 We can pull all the enforcement records for it, all the detailed time stamped pictures, videos, everything that we take. 503 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:13,290 License plate recognition reads everything and. 504 00:37:13,450 --> 00:37:16,620 Send it over to you so you have access to all of that information. 505 00:37:16,730 --> 00:37:20,050 At all times, so there should never be a dispute where you can't. 506 00:37:20,490 --> 00:37:21,890 Ask for information on it. 507 00:37:22,410 --> 00:37:26,210 We're always there. So thank you, Sir. Thank you. Appreciate that. Could I ask a question though? 508 00:37:26,890 --> 00:37:30,250 So if you if you boot a car and so forth, what what's? 509 00:37:30,330 --> 00:37:33,610 What was the cost to the person who's been booted to get the? 510 00:37:33,930 --> 00:37:37,050 And to both, yeah. So what's the cost for both? 511 00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:38,290 OK, so. 512 00:37:39,330 --> 00:37:44,740 Those prices are set by the state back in 2011. 513 00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:51,290 The state set the boot fee at $75. It's been that way ever since. So right now it's $75.00 to get a boot off. 514 00:37:52,570 --> 00:37:53,250 And then? 515 00:37:53,410 --> 00:37:56,370 If the boot stays on for more than 24 hours, which we usually. 516 00:37:56,490 --> 00:38:03,490 Tow it in to recover the equipment, but if it does stay on for over 24 hours, you can charge an additional $25 a day. 517 00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:04,850 For up to three days. 518 00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:06,770 In storage fees. 519 00:38:07,130 --> 00:38:07,930 And so. 520 00:38:09,490 --> 00:38:11,210 For an impound. 521 00:38:11,610 --> 00:38:14,530 First day impound if they come during business hours. 522 00:38:14,610 --> 00:38:16,060 It's I believe it's. 523 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,240 Did I just send that over to you? 524 00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:21,460 I think it was, I think it's like 312. 525 00:38:21,610 --> 00:38:22,330 Or something. 526 00:38:22,410 --> 00:38:25,090 They're an 812 dollars, yeah. And then it's. 527 00:38:25,690 --> 00:38:29,210 $25 or it's $42.00 a day in storage. 528 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,960 What was the toffee? Sorry, 312 I believe. 529 00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:37,450 Yeah, it fluctuates a little bit with. 530 00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:38,370 Fuel prices. 531 00:38:39,290 --> 00:38:39,770 Awesome. 532 00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:42,930 OK, Alrighty. Thank you. 533 00:38:43,290 --> 00:38:45,330 With that, we're going to close public comment. 534 00:38:46,530 --> 00:38:49,410 And I let's move into the closed session. 535 00:38:50,090 --> 00:38:52,010 Before we jump into that, just. 536 00:38:52,570 --> 00:38:55,420 To be as transparent as possible and share the information. 537 00:38:55,810 --> 00:38:58,650 The intent behind the closed session is to. 538 00:38:58,730 --> 00:39:01,530 Review personnel matters. We're looking at hiring. 539 00:39:03,090 --> 00:39:06,290 Staffing positions in the city and just are discussing that. 540 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,380 Yes, very good. 541 00:39:08,570 --> 00:39:11,730 So on those lines in the future, can we? 542 00:39:11,970 --> 00:39:15,090 Since we're now just posting when we need it, can we actually post the? 543 00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:17,650 Reason one reason instead of just listening all of them. 544 00:39:17,850 --> 00:39:19,330 Can we put that into the notes? 545 00:39:19,410 --> 00:39:22,410 Yeah, Yeah. That'd be great. Yeah. That's a great call. Thank you, guys. 546 00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:24,530 OK, so can I'll take a motion. 547 00:39:24,850 --> 00:39:25,770 On this item. 548 00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,100 I make a motion to move into closed session. 549 00:39:33,130 --> 00:39:34,610 On March 10th at. 550 00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:36,410 6:28 PM. 551 00:39:37,010 --> 00:39:38,060 Here in the Council meeting. 552 00:39:38,290 --> 00:39:39,610 And then the reason to. 553 00:39:39,730 --> 00:39:41,370 Oh, the reason is. 554 00:39:41,450 --> 00:39:45,090 Two in the green there a discuss. 555 00:39:45,210 --> 00:39:50,530 The character professional competency in physical mental health. And no, it's not. It's collective bargaining, right? 556 00:39:50,810 --> 00:39:53,010 No, no, it's a day. 557 00:39:53,090 --> 00:39:53,330 OK. 558 00:39:57,110 --> 00:39:57,780 Do I have a second? 559 00:40:00,380 --> 00:40:00,980 Come on. 560 00:40:03,010 --> 00:40:05,610 I think you pretty much covered the whole thing is that. 561 00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:08,970 Yeah, I couldn't hear everything through the mic, but I'll second. That's fine. 562 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,520 Second, by Councilman, there is that a second answer? 563 00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:14,490 OK. All right. 564 00:40:14,570 --> 00:40:16,700 Let's do this, or by roll call. We'll start here on my left. 565 00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:17,690 Parker, hi. 566 00:40:17,970 --> 00:40:18,530 Jake I. 567 00:40:19,010 --> 00:40:19,570 David. 568 00:40:19,890 --> 00:40:21,250 I and Ezra. 569 00:40:22,610 --> 00:40:23,610 Motion passes. 570 00:40:23,770 --> 00:40:24,890 All right, we will be. 571 00:40:24,970 --> 00:40:25,890 Right back. 572 00:40:33,390 --> 00:40:34,190 Thank you. 573 00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:45,890 Yeah, let's just do that, are we? We locked and loaded. Okay, awesome. 574 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,240 All right, I would. 575 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,400 We are gonna. 576 00:40:49,710 --> 00:40:52,470 If I could get a motion, we are going to. 577 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,480 Leave the public or sorry, the. 578 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,520 Closed meeting. 579 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,760 I'll make that motion. 580 00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,760 I second it. 581 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,040 All in favor. 582 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,600 I think we have to vote. Is that roll call as well? 583 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,760 To leave the. 584 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,480 OK, sounds good, Councilman Cumber. Aye. 585 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,640 Jacob all the way I. 586 00:41:10,270 --> 00:41:11,410 I'm not sure we're voting on. 587 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,960 Coming out of closed session. 588 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,400 Closed session hi. 589 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,680 Councilman era I. 590 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,320 Awesome. Thank you. Motion passes. 591 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,840 Alrighty, we're going to jump into the work session. We've got 3.1. 592 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:30,040 The Public Safety Impact Fee facilities Plan and impact fee analysis. I'm going to turn the time to Councilman Holdaway. 593 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,000 To lead this discussion. 594 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,700 Had the opportunity to go and and go on a tour with our excellent fire department and staff and they're incredible. We spent a 595 00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:39,320 couple hours. 596 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,720 Going over our. 597 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,440 Fire safety plan for our wetlands and helping them understand a lot of different things and the topic came up about the public 598 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,800 safety impact fee. 599 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,560 I want to thank Karen Cornelius for. 600 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:57,800 Talking about this for many years and bringing this to the attention of how important it is to make sure those are updated. 601 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,530 And that they are. 602 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,880 A fraction and an update to to the plans that we're going to be having in vineyards so. 603 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,170 The work session is just to talk about. You guys have any issues? 604 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,360 With the mayor. 605 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,800 Reaching out to. 606 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,400 The sheriff and also to the fire department. 607 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,360 To look into. 608 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:23,000 Reevaluating and updating our public safety impact fees. 609 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,120 For facilities and the plan and the impact. 610 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,080 The analysis. 611 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,080 And it's been years since that has been updated. 612 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,760 Thanks, Jake. 613 00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:34,860 Can I ask a? 614 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,000 Question SO. 615 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,440 As I'm trying to get a grasp on. 616 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,040 Impact fees. 617 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,160 I've and I recognize decisions. 618 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,200 Should not be made in a vacuum and we need to look at the holistic thing and as we try to get a hand on the budget, it's very 619 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,760 important that we get the impact fees right. 620 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,160 To help us not have to pull money from what those should be covering to cover other things, right? We just end up with a bigger 621 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,320 deficit that way. 622 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,240 I'm under the impression right now and maybe city staff and. 623 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,640 Our fire department representative can help. 624 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,000 I'm under the impression that. 625 00:43:10,750 --> 00:43:14,410 Larger buildings, such as the ones being developed in Utah City. 626 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,440 Necessarily require different public safety infrastructure. Higher ladders, bigger. 627 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,440 Equipment and utility. 628 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,680 Things. I don't know what all those are because I'm not a firefighter. I apologize. 629 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,560 But I'm under the impression that we're not. 630 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:34,360 Currently charging impact fees that are adequate to cover those expenses or costs for our. 631 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,720 Public safety departments like the fire department. 632 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,000 Is that accurate? 633 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,760 We do not currently charge any public safety impact fee in the city. 634 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,200 Yeah. 635 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,920 Correct. Residential commercial. We do not charge a public safety impact fee. 636 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:53,240 Right. So because of that, that leaves U.S. Open and massive gap. 637 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,520 And so by. 638 00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:00,080 Putting this in, we can make sure that this doesn't come out of the general fund or other. 639 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,040 Tax revenues. 640 00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:02,280 And make sure that. 641 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,400 The facilities. 642 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,720 Built in the future are off of those impact fees. 643 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,880 I can also give some brief background here, very brief. About probably 6 months ago, we, we directed our planner, Rachel to do the 644 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,480 study. 645 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,400 Rather than contract that out and so she's been working on that, We have an excellent draft study that is required in order to do 646 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,240 an impact fee analysis. 647 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,220 So she worked really closely with our Sheriff's Department with Orem Fire to gather kind of all the future demands that we're 648 00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:32,840 going to need. So it goes into details of what type of fire apparatus do we need. 649 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,800 For Utah City, or whatever it may be. 650 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,120 And then it gives us essentially a. 651 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,960 An outline of what these expenses are going to be, when we're going to need them. 652 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:47,043 And now that we have that study done, we, we need to present to the council for adoption. Once that's happened, we can then work 653 00:44:47,043 --> 00:44:52,966 on doing this impact fee analysis, which we've gotten 2 bids from that, that we have what we'll probably bring back maybe next 654 00:44:52,966 --> 00:44:58,889 week or the following week to, to enter into a contract with so that they can take that study and they can. 655 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,840 Actually get us the numbers of. 656 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,800 For every new residential building that comes online, they need to pay X amount per unit. 657 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,320 For every commercial X amount per square footage. 658 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,160 And then we can start collecting that impact fee. 659 00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:11,580 Awesome. 660 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:14,120 So just the thing on the work session is just. 661 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,480 I think this is a top priority in terms of our budget constraints and issues, so. 662 00:45:19,390 --> 00:45:21,630 And I do believe that the the. 663 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,960 Financial Group that we staff is recommending is just below $15,000 to conduct the study. 664 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,320 And is 50 yeah, I think 14,700 or something like that and. 665 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:33,760 The the. 666 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,120 The other thing is just make sure. 667 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,080 Working in conjunction with Holden and. 668 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,400 And yeah, they. 669 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,160 All of us have been working really well together on this project so far so. 670 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,720 OK. Yeah. Well, I guess in next week, would you like it on the agenda to? 671 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,120 For the ability for the mayor to enter into this contract. 672 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,280 Next council meeting, so two weeks. 673 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,760 Yeah, 2 weeks. 674 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,250 Councilman, if we could still have the information at the work session next Tuesday, I'd appreciate it, just so that we can. 675 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,980 Review, do you want to see the study or do you want to see like the contract? What, what would you want to see? I'd like to see 676 00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:08,640 the study and you can just e-mail me that I can send it out. 677 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,520 Put that on the work session agenda so that it's if there's something to be brought up about it, we want to have discussion, we 678 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,280 want to seek more information. We can cover that. 679 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,890 Yeah, we can. I can definitely all send that up tomorrow. We do have the contracts on this agenda. So we're good there. 680 00:46:21,950 --> 00:46:23,970 Study. Yes. OK. Do you want to see this person? 681 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:24,680 Thank you. 682 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,080 Anybody else OK? 683 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,180 Already. Let's jump to 3.2 parking enforcement discussion. I'm going to turn the time to Councilman there. Yes, I promise I'll be 684 00:46:31,180 --> 00:46:34,840 quick on this. 685 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,040 So, umm. 686 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,800 I live in a neighborhood that has some some parking issues. I'm actually. 687 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:45,470 On a private street, but there's adjacent neighborhoods that have public streets and, and one of the kind of low hanging fruits we 688 00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:51,020 were trying to solve just as neighbors and, and, and people looking at this is how can we address this over occupancy in a way 689 00:46:51,020 --> 00:46:56,570 that that can, can be immediate without necessarily building up the code enforcement capacity. 690 00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:01,440 One way we found to do that is, is through parking enforcement and so came up with just like a general. 691 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,000 Plan that hoping to to. 692 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,920 Adopt A program that has worked in other areas and. 693 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,840 Could be good for. 694 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,530 For cities to basically opt into this baseline program. 695 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,720 That would kind of get all the low hanging fruit and then each city or each neighborhood could. 696 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,490 Kind of work and see what would work best for their community. 697 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,240 But umm. 698 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,040 What we've kind of come up with is that. 699 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,640 We would contract with University Parking Authority. 700 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:30,240 Have the app where you can request digital passes every household. 701 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,840 Would be eligible for one automatic overnight parking pass. 702 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,320 Through the app you could easily switch which car has that digital pass. You just put all your cars in the app. 703 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,720 You can move so every every home. 704 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,240 Would get one overnight pass. 705 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,280 Now. 706 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,440 There's another thing that we'd like to kind of look at is that homes would be able to. 707 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,650 Request an additional pass if their owner occupied non rental units. 708 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,920 Or if they're on a. 709 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,293 Owner occupied rental units, if they have a business license, which means they've already gone through the city to add the extra 710 00:47:58,293 --> 00:48:02,306 parking space, they've already kind of fulfilled their end of the bargain for for parking requirements and that would help give 711 00:48:02,306 --> 00:48:06,319 the city a little bit of oversight into. 712 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,920 To how those are going and making sure that those households that have, you know, 678 people living there and all parked on the 713 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,320 street. 714 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,360 Wouldn't be happening. 715 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,680 Additionally, homeowners could request a temporary pass. 716 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,600 We could do that for like up to a month at a time or a couple weeks, whatever. 717 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,720 I wouldn't seek your guys's input as well and talking with community as well. 718 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,800 We'd keep those overnight enforcement hours to 1:00 AM to 5:00 AM. 719 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,120 So it's just this overnight enforcement. 720 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:34,520 Which would. 721 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,120 Allow a lot of the residents more visitor parking during the day as well. 722 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,200 And then? 723 00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:45,290 Basically that was it. I would think the shaman. I've talked to people in the shaman on Bridgeport. 724 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,120 Westbrook. 725 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:47,080 Cottonwoods. 726 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:48,760 And. 727 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,240 Few others as well. 728 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,560 The Gardens. 729 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,720 There was one other ones. 730 00:48:54,430 --> 00:48:58,430 But anyway, it covered like 80% of the public St. and neighborhood streets. 731 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,345 That are experiencing these issues and would see a lot of benefits in this process. So there's just a couple like considerations 732 00:49:03,345 --> 00:49:06,890 I'd love the council to think about as we. 733 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,360 Kind of work through this. 734 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,280 There is like a $20 annual fee for each pass. 735 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,360 For for the app. 736 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,880 That either the city could pick up so we could say. 737 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,720 Homeowners get it free, we recognize. 738 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,680 The city would take this on. 739 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,770 Because of the. 740 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,560 Like it lowers the demand form for city. 741 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,400 And sorry, my voice was shot from the Texas Tech game. 742 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,320 It lowers the demand from. 743 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,330 City services to have. 744 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,500 These parking issues address there's there's safer streets, there's less burden on the city resources. And so that might be worth 745 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:42,240 the city just picking that up or we could we could, you know, charge for. 746 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,920 Second pass so we could we could charge. 747 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,860 You know, the rate that you know would cover our staff time too or we could just look at the administrative fee. But anyway, those 748 00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:54,720 are a lot of considerations. I just want to bring that up just so you guys all have a preview to. 749 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,440 We've been looking at and would be happy to get your input on all those minute details and. 750 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,640 Hopefully we can get to a good consensus. 751 00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:03,090 Sure. 752 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,240 Possible or reasonable to? 753 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,400 I don't know if that's something you want to spearhead or send it to maybe some city staff, but. 754 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:16,320 To conduct a study, what neighborhoods would we get? Maybe like 75% buy in? I think that's what we've previously used. 755 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,080 As a threshold to implement at the neighborhood level. 756 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,200 And the reason I bring that up is. 757 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,600 You know, going back to the conversations we've had. 758 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,840 In the last few sessions about. 759 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,000 One size not fitting all and. 760 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,440 Let's not apply something to the entire city. If it's more specific to helping certain neighborhoods and if those neighborhoods 761 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,760 support it, then we want to enable them in in having that. 762 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,120 But that doesn't mean other neighborhoods want to have that. 763 00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:44,790 Yeah, I think, you know, we could do that. I have been talking to. 764 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,520 You know, Mayor gave me permission to work with. 765 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,000 Our former planning Director at the time and then cash on. 766 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,160 The. 767 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,600 Parking study that we did, getting the numbers and kind of seeing which streets are having these major issues. 768 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,520 One of the big things that we talked about were. 769 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:06,280 That some of these neighborhoods are so overrun with rentals already that yeah, that's 75% threshold is just unreachable and so. 770 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,465 Implementing this, we may get complaints from those people that are renting out excessively, but I think there's enough support 771 00:51:10,465 --> 00:51:14,450 from from people who live here. 772 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,850 Who want to raise their families here, who don't want to have to move out because of. 773 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,120 Some of these issues. 774 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:21,680 That I would be supportive of. 775 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:27,080 Saying without the 75% support, let's let's implement that and. 776 00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:31,170 You know, see if we do need to have that, would you say that would be for all of the neighborhoods in? 777 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,320 In your area or just a city? Bridgeport and Lechevano, right? 778 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:40,080 So I've gotten buy in from Bridgeport, LA Shaman at the Gardens, Cottonwoods, Westbrook. 779 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,240 And. 780 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,760 The maples, that was the last one, so winds are up that way. 781 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,360 Windsor's private streets? Yep. 782 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:53,840 Right. But yeah, those those are the public neighborhoods that have gotten and I also did want to present this to. 783 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,640 To any other neighborhood who is interested in something like this that would. 784 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,320 Kind of. 785 00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,680 Put those limits in place. 786 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,960 We do have those reasonable accommodations, but. 787 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,200 Something that would get really all that low hanging fruit of those those really high occupancy rentals. Could you could you go 788 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,280 through the? 789 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:15,520 Proposal so it was. So if you live in the home you get 2 passes? Is that what you said? So you get one automatically, one auto? 790 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:16,360 And then? 791 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:20,200 A homeowner could request if they are owner occupied. 792 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,160 Or. 793 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,120 An owner occupied nonrental. 794 00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:30,120 Or if their owner occupied rental if they have a business license. So that was kind of the thought there. 795 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,440 There was some debate amongst. 796 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,920 All the people I've been talking to on Should we charge for that second pass? 797 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,520 What would those charges look like? 798 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,200 I know we used to have a $60.00 annual pass for for. 799 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,160 For some, that was trying to cover city staff time as well. 800 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,840 Just the the fee for the app is $20 annually, so. 801 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:48,840 I feel like. 802 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,040 There was maybe some support on those nominal fees. I honestly would like to. 803 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,520 Try to figure out if we could carve out a way to have exceptions for. 804 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,840 Households that have like a lot of teenage drivers. 805 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,440 We don't want to discourage. 806 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,090 People from having kids or having their family members drive, but. 807 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:05,400 Just something to help. 808 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,040 Focus on those ones or. 809 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,360 Or restrict the. 810 00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:10,240 The rentals would be. 811 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,320 That would be hugely helpful. There was. 812 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:17,920 A decade where I had a used car lot in my front yard because all my I had five kids, five teenagers at the time, right? 813 00:53:19,070 --> 00:53:20,490 So yeah. 814 00:53:21,570 --> 00:53:24,650 I hope I can make a comment or not, I'd be happy to. 815 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,560 Would you come up to the microphone? Come up to the mic, Sir, please. 816 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:28,400 Come on up. 817 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,920 Sorry, I'm not very professional. I came over here in my sweats because I was like. 818 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,240 Shoot, the meetings today come as you are so. 819 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,280 Yeah, Hamlet Gordillo from Le Cheminant. 820 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:39,800 Your favorite neighborhood? 821 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,400 Because of these problems, right? 822 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:44,960 Anyway. 823 00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:46,720 Yeah, just wanted to. 824 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,880 Because we met up as a neighborhood. 825 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,370 Briefly and. 826 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,640 We had a couple of families. They loved the ideas of this happening. 827 00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:58,185 There are a couple of concerns where there's a couple families that do have several children where they're like Eric, we have two 828 00:53:58,185 --> 00:54:01,650 kids that are going to be getting old enough. 829 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,160 Where they're going to have. 830 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,040 At least one extra car for the kid. 831 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,160 Or both. So they just. 832 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:07,880 Kind of want. 833 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,000 The City Council to keep that in mind. 834 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,050 But they love the idea of doing something. 835 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,600 With it because they're like, we want our streets. 836 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,200 Save for our kids to. 837 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,200 Be running out there. 838 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:19,920 Skating. 839 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:21,760 Scootering, running, whatever. 840 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,440 Playing around. 841 00:54:24,180 --> 00:54:29,180 So I'd be happy if you need some more data from Le Cheminant or need to speak to get some of these families to be representatives 842 00:54:29,180 --> 00:54:34,180 to share some of their thoughts, I'd be happy to. 843 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:35,920 Get their input as well. 844 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:36,680 So. 845 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,050 I've talked to several of them. They'd be happy to do that. 846 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,800 I just need a point of contact. 847 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,800 #2 is just making sure that. 848 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,720 I know like again we talked about 75%. 849 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,000 Unfortunately. 850 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,040 Looking at maps and kind of getting just some anecdotal data of. 851 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:53,800 What? 852 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,160 The ratio is of actual families to rentals. 853 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,640 It's yeah, I'd say it's probably about 5050 and lemonade. 854 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:01,880 Roughly. 855 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,840 So it'll be difficult to get that. And what worries me too is a lot of assemblies are very. 856 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,210 In pro of a solution. 857 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,760 I just worry about that. 858 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,320 Blowback that's going to come from all the college students. 859 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:20,000 LLC, all the people that own the properties, so it's seeing like, OK, what can we best do to kind of deal with that? 860 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,580 Blowback that will come afterwards that are not the families there. So I just kind of wanted to bring that up as well to kind of 861 00:55:25,580 --> 00:55:30,800 keep it so 75% is not reachable. What is a reachable number? What do you think was appropriate? 862 00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:32,490 I don't know. 863 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,000 I was going to say I'd have to go. 864 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,120 I mean it. 865 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,640 I really don't know. I'll have. 866 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,960 Base, I know I'm familiar with neighbors within a couple blocks of our neighborhood just because I interact with them and talk 867 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,640 with them. So I could go around and kind of. 868 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,640 Get in a rough estimate in terms of a couple blocks. So again, anecdotal. 869 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,440 But uh. 870 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,560 To be like, OK, out of the houses within these many blocks, these are the many. 871 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,080 Families that said yes. 872 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:04,040 All these others are rentals. So I can automatically most likely assume that will be say no, yeah, yeah. So. 873 00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:11,170 I I think this is great. The only thing that I would say is that in each neighborhood. 874 00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:12,560 Following. 875 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,970 What Councilman Wood is trying to do is of empowering Someone Like You. 876 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,960 That is in the neighborhood or two or three of them. 877 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,960 And gathering that data because you know who? 878 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,480 Who are the violators? 879 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,000 Creating a map. 880 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,040 These are the houses. 881 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,880 These are the rentals that you have issues with. 882 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,040 You know each house so that. 883 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,080 That map. 884 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,040 Because that information is really key for each. 885 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:37,920 Neighborhood umm. 886 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,560 And then when we come to vote on this in two weeks. 887 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,680 Prior to that meeting, we have that so you can show us. 888 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,640 This is our plan. 889 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,200 East, I don't think I need a 75% threshold. Yeah, well. 890 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,840 You know what I mean? I I just need a. 891 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:59,540 Especially if it's overrun, because I believe both of those communities are overrun with LLC. Wood is suggesting that we might 892 00:56:59,540 --> 00:57:05,640 want to get 75% of those of those owners who actually live the land ownership who actually reside there. 893 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:11,640 So and that that seems like that might be doable, but what I what I love about the onus of being it on. 894 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,080 That leader is. 895 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,800 He's going around talking, hey. 896 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,360 This is a negotiation of that neighborhood, right? 897 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,810 This is what we want. 898 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:24,000 Making, you know, empowering the community to come and say this is where we're at, and then we can give that. 899 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,530 Plan that that map that you've made. 900 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,480 And saying hey. 901 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,560 Do we agree to this And then? 902 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,960 Two weeks from now, making sure everyone knows hey. 903 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,480 Come and speak to the plan. 904 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,640 I don't mind supporting without just. 905 00:57:38,340 --> 00:57:42,370 Especially even if the community was overrun with rentals and we were under 50. 906 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:43,400 Just because. 907 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,440 You're getting people moving out. 908 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,640 Vineyard because of the problem. 909 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:48,720 You know in your. 910 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,760 You're having just such neighborhood problems. 911 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,720 Yeah. So, and that's where I mean, I don't know. 912 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:59,320 I don't know if there's a right number or percentage of support to get I don't need. 913 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,480 I think it's just like and especially in two weeks that's that's going to take or whenever the plan, whenever they're ready for 914 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,160 the plan, right. Yeah, no. And I think we could be ready to. 915 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:12,600 To have something to vote on in two weeks and then we could kind of start a progressive implementation timeline where you know, we 916 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,960 we passed a resolution, but then we wouldn't necessarily start enforcement until like June. 917 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,800 So that would give people plenty of time. We'd get a media campaign out. 918 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,360 But I would I just. I just know. 919 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,440 How much? 920 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,450 You know, so many families that have have literally moved out over this issue. 921 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,560 And I know it's an issue and there's. 922 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,640 A lot of families that. 923 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,080 Would love to see it that aren't necessarily going to. 924 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:35,960 You know. 925 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,240 Participate in the process and and you know, of course we want to encourage that, but. 926 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,365 I do think this is something that would be so beneficial and really capture all that low hanging fruit and then we could tweak it 927 00:58:45,365 --> 00:58:49,370 from there if we needed to do. 928 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,760 More or less. I mean, we could kind of see. 929 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,040 How this goes? But I definitely think. 930 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,280 You'd get rid of. 931 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,960 That one house that's causing 5 spaces to be taken up constantly when I think and I think not only in the map of when you're 932 00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:04,400 drawing, when you go and take a print off of that map. 933 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,160 Identifying the home and saying there are. 934 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,320 Like looking at overnight, there's 5. 935 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,520 In this house or there's six vehicles. 936 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:12,650 Because that helps us. 937 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,040 You know, ascertain. Oh yeah, Holy cow. So. 938 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,680 Talking about these seven houses. 939 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,240 Can't put names on them who's doing it but. 940 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,400 This is the home. 941 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,400 I think that's critical to. 942 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,920 Making a decision, there's, I mean, there's when we had our like little meeting in the neighborhood, there was. 943 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,920 Definitely other areas that people in Schemat. 944 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,360 Nicole and I don't know about that. We like. 945 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:42,200 Oh yeah, this house is a problem in this one. This one's a problem in these couple blocks. So I guess who would I get that 946 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:47,920 information to so I can get some maps that are good to be printable and start gathering data for you? 947 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,720 I guess that's the Jacob wood has been the one that's led it. But I mean both of you guys are working together I guess on it. I 948 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,120 mean the wood would be good but not here today but. 949 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,480 But I also think that. 950 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,000 Yeah. What was I going to say about that? 951 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,520 Just I think the the neighborhood. 952 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,640 Captains or whatever that are organizing it. 953 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:07,880 Knowing that you're. 954 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,040 You got to own your data like what? I want to make sure right? My big thing too is like. 955 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:18,560 I want to make sure that the neighborhood, that the families in the neighborhood are bought in so that way they know. 956 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,240 They're aware of what's coming. They can share it with other neighbors. 957 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:22,840 And if. 958 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,800 Set up as best as possible. It's going to reduce that blowback that we're going to get of like. 959 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,840 And it's my private property. 960 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,640 And. 961 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,520 Am I allowed to call you that in City Council meeting? 962 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:35,960 OK. All right. 963 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:42,960 I think it would be very important on social media or even just working with staff to. 964 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,520 Put a flyer on every door. 965 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,480 Empower who that leader is. 966 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,440 To say hey. 967 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,440 Over the next week, I'm studying this out. 968 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:52,600 The Lechemina. 969 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,400 And uh. 970 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,560 Bridgeport neighborhood. 971 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,920 We're gathering information. 972 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,040 So that they empower that leader to. 973 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:01,320 Talk to him. 974 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,000 You know, hey, get, we're trying to, we're trying to have a neighborhood decision of what we're trying to do here. 975 01:01:06,350 --> 01:01:07,790 OK. So yeah, awesome. 976 01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:08,630 That'd be great. 977 01:01:08,910 --> 01:01:10,670 So maps wise then who do I? 978 01:01:11,310 --> 01:01:16,990 Do I reach out to Councilman if you can even turn in one map to the City Hall? 979 01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:18,350 Even, uh. 980 01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:21,230 Like Tony or or or David Kyle. 981 01:01:21,350 --> 01:01:25,230 They can make copies and I'm sure get them distributed to all of us, right? Does that work? Yeah. 982 01:01:25,870 --> 01:01:27,270 And also we have. 983 01:01:27,350 --> 01:01:34,110 If you send an e-mail to council, City Council, council at Vineyard Utah, council at. 984 01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:41,870 City Council? Is that City Council? Look up what our e-mail is. yeahcitycouncil@vineyardutah.gov goes to all of us, OK? 985 01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:45,910 Yeah, City Council just get access because yeah, I mean, if you have. 986 01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:49,210 Maps data, or if there's map data that can just do on Google and I can just, if that's good enough and I could just print that, 987 01:01:49,210 --> 01:01:52,430 you've got a good map, right? Yeah. 988 01:01:52,670 --> 01:01:54,990 And sorry, I didn't know that's Google. 989 01:01:55,310 --> 01:01:59,270 Said I was going to keep this short and hopefully the work session next week. 990 01:02:00,350 --> 01:02:04,510 Could we just pull some of the parking study data cache from the? 991 01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:07,230 This study I know we had a lot of these neighborhoods looked at. 992 01:02:08,590 --> 01:02:11,480 But I mean the neighborhoods I listed, I mean that's close to. 993 01:02:12,270 --> 01:02:14,310 I'd say that's like 80% of all the. 994 01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:15,430 Public St. 995 01:02:15,550 --> 01:02:17,630 Neighborhoods that we have in the city and so. 996 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,320 I'd be supportive of putting this on the public streets for. 997 01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:23,990 The neighborhoods in general, but. 998 01:02:24,110 --> 01:02:25,790 I'd also be happy to keep it to these. 999 01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:29,430 Just to start implementing a good study, I think it would. 1000 01:02:29,950 --> 01:02:31,590 Kind of where I'm at with yeah, we should. 1001 01:02:32,590 --> 01:02:34,750 Go, Jake. Go ahead, Jake, please. Yeah, Go ahead, Jacob. 1002 01:02:35,350 --> 01:02:36,430 Yeah, no, sorry. 1003 01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:40,110 I mean, I think we should target it first. I mean looking at the numbers, but I really appreciate Maria in cash. We've been 1004 01:02:40,110 --> 01:02:43,270 working with you guys and asking for more data. 1005 01:02:44,070 --> 01:02:46,710 On where and what Pacific neighborhoods are. 1006 01:02:46,830 --> 01:02:51,110 Dealing with the problems and yeah, Bridgeport #1 la Shawn may #2 in Providence. 1007 01:02:52,070 --> 01:02:54,110 And my only issue if the. 1008 01:02:54,510 --> 01:02:55,830 City parking pass. 1009 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,160 Is the fact that it's not a. 1010 01:03:00,910 --> 01:03:02,990 Root constitution, if that makes sense. 1011 01:03:03,430 --> 01:03:04,670 Like at the end of the day. 1012 01:03:05,230 --> 01:03:06,310 The way to. 1013 01:03:06,550 --> 01:03:08,710 Don't have to remove the people. 1014 01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:10,510 From these houses, right? 1015 01:03:11,690 --> 01:03:13,680 Providence of the city parking pass. 1016 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,840 We had 12 confirmed complaints last year. 1017 01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:20,050 All right. 1018 01:03:21,950 --> 01:03:24,430 So it's just my point is while we implement this. 1019 01:03:24,670 --> 01:03:26,190 We also needed working on. 1020 01:03:27,110 --> 01:03:30,150 Ways to strengthen our current code enforcement to. 1021 01:03:30,270 --> 01:03:31,390 Actually removed. 1022 01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:33,510 These people from. 1023 01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:34,750 These properties. 1024 01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:37,920 Yeah, I'm definitely committed to that, I think. 1025 01:03:38,550 --> 01:03:42,350 This budget cycle, that's something I definitely want to advocate for is adding. 1026 01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:43,630 More code enforcement. 1027 01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:45,240 Been talking to Holden about how we could. 1028 01:03:45,550 --> 01:03:50,920 Structure that that's something I ran on, as well as having a more robust code enforcement so we can. 1029 01:03:51,030 --> 01:03:52,270 Handle this long term. 1030 01:03:52,350 --> 01:03:53,350 But I'd love to. 1031 01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:55,550 Give these families, a lot of them showed up. 1032 01:03:55,710 --> 01:04:00,297 To the meeting to just ask for that relief. They've been dealing this with this issue for years and years. So I'm with you I I 1033 01:04:00,297 --> 01:04:04,884 think that would be great. Yeah. I think that I think that we start with the ones that are like horrendous. I drove through 1034 01:04:04,884 --> 01:04:09,471 Bridgeport and lechement I mean it's just. 1035 01:04:10,510 --> 01:04:12,990 There's challenges beyond challenges there. 1036 01:04:13,070 --> 01:04:15,510 Gardens isn't too far behind, but it's like. 1037 01:04:15,590 --> 01:04:19,800 I look at like the Cottonwoods. I'd like to make sure that the neighborhoods feel good about that. Some of the. 1038 01:04:19,990 --> 01:04:24,590 That's one that I haven't heard from. So yeah, there isn't like super bad, but they want something so just. 1039 01:04:24,670 --> 01:04:26,150 You know, kind of. 1040 01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:27,230 Start. 1041 01:04:27,350 --> 01:04:32,110 The low hanging fruit is, you know, like I said, it seems to be Bridgeport, the Shannon Gardens. 1042 01:04:32,510 --> 01:04:36,735 And then just make sure that we have good neighbor buying as we kind of go down there just to make sure everyone's aligned. So we 1043 01:04:36,735 --> 01:04:40,960 all kind of just touched on the. 1044 01:04:41,350 --> 01:04:44,130 Keeping it a little bit more targeted in scope, especially as it starts, I think that's important. I would also consider looking 1045 01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:46,910 at. 1046 01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:52,150 What the current city code requires for parking and rentals. 1047 01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:55,160 And the reason I bring that up is because I know. 1048 01:04:55,940 --> 01:04:57,600 To rent an Adu. 1049 01:04:57,830 --> 01:04:59,870 You are required by city code. 1050 01:04:59,990 --> 01:05:05,310 To provide additional parking spaces on the property that are not street parking, just one. So that's another aspect I think it 1051 01:05:05,310 --> 01:05:10,630 too. It's actually only a total of 4 parking stalls according to state law. 1052 01:05:11,150 --> 01:05:16,670 Oh really? Discrepancy between state and city code? Ah, curious so that that's the. 1053 01:05:17,070 --> 01:05:17,790 The loop. 1054 01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:20,990 So let's also pass that city code back to. 1055 01:05:21,590 --> 01:05:24,990 Tandem parking and whatever. Yeah, OK, microphone. 1056 01:05:26,130 --> 01:05:32,805 And then, you know, Jacob, would you, you shared that this wasn't addressing a root cause, but I would like to posit an economic 1057 01:05:32,805 --> 01:05:39,480 concept real quick that you get more of what you incentivize or disincentivize. And if we disincentivize. 1058 01:05:39,590 --> 01:05:43,210 Over occupancy. By enforcing parking you actually will see a reduction in over occupancy because then it becomes expensive to be 1059 01:05:43,210 --> 01:05:46,830 over occupied. 1060 01:05:46,910 --> 01:05:54,270 Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Jeff Harmon, I'm just mentioning the data I got about Providence. Providence. 1061 01:05:54,430 --> 01:05:57,350 Yeah, issue the city parking cost I believe in 2022, right? 1062 01:05:58,450 --> 01:06:02,400 And still this is 2026. New staff complaints about over occupancy. 1063 01:06:02,510 --> 01:06:04,160 So I just hope that when we do this. 1064 01:06:04,310 --> 01:06:05,310 They don't say oh. 1065 01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:07,590 We solved over occupancy. It's done. 1066 01:06:07,710 --> 01:06:08,550 This is just. 1067 01:06:08,830 --> 01:06:09,790 A temporary. 1068 01:06:10,030 --> 01:06:12,510 Banned them, doesn't adjust the root. 1069 01:06:12,830 --> 01:06:13,830 And get these people. 1070 01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:15,230 Out of the properties, yeah. 1071 01:06:16,690 --> 01:06:19,240 Go ahead, Sir. OK, Jeff Harmon with the gardens. 1072 01:06:19,590 --> 01:06:20,790 Actually, it's the garden. 1073 01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:27,430 Like the garden, yeah, One of those things, yeah, we were, we were looking into this like, you know. 1074 01:06:28,190 --> 01:06:28,910 You know multi. 1075 01:06:29,350 --> 01:06:31,950 You know, families living in a single family unit and. 1076 01:06:32,070 --> 01:06:34,510 All that stuff and now the parking and when I was. 1077 01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:37,110 Bouncing between like state and city code. 1078 01:06:37,390 --> 01:06:41,470 The discrepancy isn't major, but it you know, they define tandem park in the same or whatever, but it's like it's either state or 1079 01:06:41,470 --> 01:06:45,550 city. It's like 1 is 4. 1080 01:06:46,110 --> 01:06:50,030 Parking spots. One is 5 parking spots, so there probably does need to be a true up. 1081 01:06:50,510 --> 01:06:52,990 With some of that just to make sure that some consistency there. 1082 01:06:54,630 --> 01:06:58,270 Yeah, that's all I was really saying. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome, Tony. For the record, it is the garden. Let's make sure 1083 01:06:58,270 --> 01:07:01,910 that that's noted. 1084 01:07:04,990 --> 01:07:06,640 OK, awesome. 1085 01:07:06,830 --> 01:07:09,710 We're going to jump to the next thing here on the agenda. 1086 01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:12,310 I had. I'm just going to have. 1087 01:07:12,510 --> 01:07:17,110 I had a statement on the tough. I'm just going to give that to Tony. Can we just put this in the record? 1088 01:07:17,230 --> 01:07:17,910 So we can. 1089 01:07:18,030 --> 01:07:19,390 It's getting a little late. 1090 01:07:19,950 --> 01:07:24,590 Want me to read it out loud? Should I read it real quick? Read it all right? Be a mayor. 1091 01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:30,230 OK, sounds good. I just wanted to I don't want to have it. The meeting called in 15 minutes when we got. 1092 01:07:30,350 --> 01:07:32,430 Stuff to do. Here we go, Peach. 1093 01:07:32,790 --> 01:07:35,670 Over the past several days, our administration, the City Council been reviewing this transportation utility fee that was adopted 1094 01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:38,550 by the. 1095 01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:42,910 Previous administration, December of last year. So there's been a lot of discussion about this. 1096 01:07:43,150 --> 01:07:45,750 Online and it has caused us a lot of. 1097 01:07:47,390 --> 01:07:48,510 Frustration and so forth. 1098 01:07:48,830 --> 01:07:53,990 So while funding transportation infrastructure is critically, critically important, the structure of this fee has raised serious 1099 01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:59,150 concerns about the impact on Vineyard residents, especially our business community. 1100 01:07:59,910 --> 01:08:03,630 Some businesses have reported charges approaching $5000 per month. 1101 01:08:03,830 --> 01:08:06,510 Which creates a significant burden and sends the wrong message. 1102 01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:09,910 To the companies considering coming and investing in our city. 1103 01:08:10,310 --> 01:08:13,435 Because of these concerns, the Asian Order, effective immediately, to suspend all penalties, fines and enforcement actions related 1104 01:08:13,435 --> 01:08:16,560 to the. 1105 01:08:16,670 --> 01:08:18,950 The transportation utility feed the tough. 1106 01:08:19,150 --> 01:08:20,270 While we conduct. 1107 01:08:20,350 --> 01:08:21,790 A full review of the program. 1108 01:08:22,350 --> 01:08:25,810 We're working with the Public Works Director, St. Engineers, Finance directors, evaluating the methodology behind the fee. Is 1109 01:08:25,810 --> 01:08:29,270 financial assumptions economic? 1110 01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:34,630 Implications and broader city budgets so we can determine the most responsible path forward and I wanted. 1111 01:08:34,790 --> 01:08:37,350 Shout out the staff thing, they've been so helpful on this. 1112 01:08:37,470 --> 01:08:39,070 And Parker as well, has been. 1113 01:08:39,630 --> 01:08:41,390 Really digging digging into it as well. 1114 01:08:42,190 --> 01:08:46,790 The goal of this administration and council is simple. It's to maintain an infrastructure while ensuring. 1115 01:08:47,230 --> 01:08:48,910 Vineyard remains a competitive. 1116 01:08:48,990 --> 01:08:52,350 Business friendly community for families, employers and future investment. 1117 01:08:52,710 --> 01:08:53,630 We'll continue. 1118 01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:56,830 To keep the Council and public informed as this review. 1119 01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:57,830 Moves forward. 1120 01:08:58,350 --> 01:08:59,390 So we're. 1121 01:08:59,910 --> 01:09:01,590 Moving forward on trying to get this. 1122 01:09:01,830 --> 01:09:03,470 With all haste but. 1123 01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:05,670 Like I said, we've suspended the. 1124 01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:13,000 The late penalties and fines and enforcement actions related to it so. 1125 01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:18,910 So we will continue spending the the fines and so forth. Are you spending the tough as well We. 1126 01:09:18,990 --> 01:09:20,830 We need to. We are working. 1127 01:09:21,310 --> 01:09:22,190 So that's a no. 1128 01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:25,790 Know as of right now, but we've got to we're working. 1129 01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:29,320 Very, with all haste to figure out. 1130 01:09:31,710 --> 01:09:34,270 Do we expect a couple weeks to figure that out? 1131 01:09:34,710 --> 01:09:36,630 We kind of have a deadline. We. 1132 01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:38,310 Goal obvious, yeah. 1133 01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:40,030 Your statement. 1134 01:09:40,750 --> 01:09:42,470 I think just said that you. 1135 01:09:42,830 --> 01:09:45,670 Are issuing the order to also halt collection. 1136 01:09:46,030 --> 01:09:50,400 But if you're also halting the fees and fines, there's no enforcement mechanism to paying the bill. 1137 01:09:50,510 --> 01:09:52,030 Yes. So subsequently. 1138 01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:53,910 There's no collection of the. 1139 01:09:55,180 --> 01:09:59,190 There could be a retroactive action, though, when you come back at it. So I just want to make sure we're clear about that. Yeah, 1140 01:09:59,190 --> 01:10:03,200 we're looking at all those things. So go ahead, Evan, please. 1141 01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:10,750 Yeah. As far as timing, I, I think that we want to have that for next council to vote on, right. So we're we're working on it. 1142 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,240 Planning to get that done as quick as we can. 1143 01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:14,950 For sure. Thanks a couple times. 1144 01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:16,630 Awesome. 1145 01:10:17,310 --> 01:10:19,950 All right, let's move over to the consent items. 1146 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,040 Is there let's. 1147 01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:30,030 Do any anyone opposed to these consent items or want to adjust them? 1148 01:10:30,710 --> 01:10:35,270 I move to approve the consent items as presented 6.1 and 6.2. 1149 01:10:35,390 --> 01:10:36,270 For the. 1150 01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:39,400 People in the audience these consent items are. 1151 01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:43,670 The City Council meeting minutes from February 10th and February 24th. 1152 01:10:44,430 --> 01:10:46,910 Thank you for making those changes. Appreciate that. 1153 01:10:48,650 --> 01:10:49,280 Awesome. 1154 01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:50,390 Do I have a second? 1155 01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:51,150 2nd. 1156 01:10:52,510 --> 01:10:53,230 All in favor. 1157 01:10:53,310 --> 01:10:54,590 Hi, OK. 1158 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,120 Anyone good? OK. 1159 01:10:58,030 --> 01:11:00,350 All righty, let's do. 1160 01:11:00,670 --> 01:11:08,390 Let's jump to the business items. We'll do the appointments last. That's OK. Let's jump to the Arts Commission. Let's do 8.1. 1161 01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:11,910 Arch Commission wrap tax grants. 1162 01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:13,400 Resolution. 1163 01:11:15,250 --> 01:11:16,880 Do we have any discussion on that? 1164 01:11:19,710 --> 01:11:20,910 Yeah, OK, awesome. 1165 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,000 Yeah, I was just going to ask if we could put it on the. 1166 01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:27,110 On screen. Can you pass that to Tony? 1167 01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:28,310 Thank you, Sir. 1168 01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:35,190 Awesome. I'm here representing the arch committee. Could you state your name, please? Oh, Jeremy said. Well, the garden. 1169 01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:35,790 Neighborhood. 1170 01:11:38,990 --> 01:11:41,990 So what we've done in ours is we represent arts, culture. 1171 01:11:42,190 --> 01:11:48,550 Or arts, rec culture and heritage, and we have different people on the committee appointed to those areas. 1172 01:11:49,390 --> 01:11:52,270 Elizabeth Shelley is over arts Daniel George is over at Rec. 1173 01:11:53,190 --> 01:11:55,470 Bronzatin is over culture and Sherry Kay. 1174 01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:59,350 You are here is over the Heritage committee and so. 1175 01:12:00,230 --> 01:12:02,710 Our goal is to. 1176 01:12:03,230 --> 01:12:07,390 Choose what to do with those wrap tax funds that are available for us. 1177 01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:11,550 And so we had a system to go to the next slide. 1178 01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:13,270 Dash. 1179 01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:15,270 I hope it's more than one. 1180 01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:19,560 Oh, is there one? Is there one before this? 1181 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:23,240 No. 1182 01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:24,990 That was it, OK. 1183 01:12:26,710 --> 01:12:28,350 That's the way I wanted to talk about it. 1184 01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:33,390 So these are the different people that applied. We had the Vineyard library. 1185 01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:38,790 And they were trying to get some more graphic novels and different reading materials. 1186 01:12:39,150 --> 01:12:44,640 Or different kinds of reading materials to engage kids more Friends of the Vineyard Library. 1187 01:12:45,670 --> 01:12:46,510 Similar. 1188 01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:49,270 Initiative that they had. 1189 01:12:50,150 --> 01:12:54,910 And they also wanted to increase story time at Vineyard Library to get a few more of those. 1190 01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:57,310 To engage the kids in what they're doing. And they're already. 1191 01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:58,430 Very popular. 1192 01:12:59,030 --> 01:13:02,470 Carry On was a portable skate ramp for events. 1193 01:13:03,950 --> 01:13:05,630 One of the residents was going to build a. 1194 01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:12,160 Portable half pipe that could be set up at Vineyard days or stations at various parks. 1195 01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:15,550 Heritage Foundation proposed building. 1196 01:13:16,270 --> 01:13:17,590 A curriculum. 1197 01:13:17,670 --> 01:13:18,470 4th grade. 1198 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:19,950 About. 1199 01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:22,590 The history and heritage of Vineyard. 1200 01:13:22,710 --> 01:13:25,870 Utah Valley Symphony was going to do a theme song. Utah Lake Foundation. 1201 01:13:26,270 --> 01:13:29,310 Wanted to do a paddle event. 1202 01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:30,470 From. 1203 01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:35,310 Lehigh. 1204 01:13:37,190 --> 01:13:37,910 Was it? Yeah. 1205 01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:39,310 Thanks. 1206 01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:40,830 Back to Vineyard. 1207 01:13:42,310 --> 01:13:47,710 And then we had Atomic Athletics and Supplies for Better Future Foundation that had to do 1. 1208 01:13:48,510 --> 01:13:49,470 Was a festival. 1209 01:13:49,670 --> 01:13:52,910 Cultural festival and then Atomic Athletics was soccer. 1210 01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:54,790 Next slide. 1211 01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:59,670 So all of those were 501-C3's came to propose. 1212 01:14:02,190 --> 01:14:04,870 Their initiatives and so we had a rubric. 1213 01:14:05,390 --> 01:14:12,830 That ask certain questions like and would be rated on one to five. So how was this aligned with the Arch Commission? 1214 01:14:12,910 --> 01:14:17,630 And Vineyard City, does the organization have the necessary infrastructure? 1215 01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:20,790 How well does the project involve the community? Are there partnerships with? 1216 01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:25,150 Organizations for the project. Our Vineyard citizens involved in it. 1217 01:14:26,830 --> 01:14:29,950 Does this and then one of the questions was how long? 1218 01:14:30,030 --> 01:14:31,270 Will be sustaining. 1219 01:14:32,270 --> 01:14:34,510 Or how long will the impact last? 1220 01:14:36,230 --> 01:14:42,430 And what would the ROI be on the project? So after running that through the 6th arch Commission members cash? 1221 01:14:45,710 --> 01:14:46,350 The voting. 1222 01:14:47,870 --> 01:14:49,840 Came out to be the Vineyard library. 1223 01:14:50,230 --> 01:14:51,950 Which is the reading diversification. 1224 01:14:52,150 --> 01:14:53,110 Vacation. 1225 01:14:54,510 --> 01:15:00,790 Initiative. They asked for $3630 and had a total score of 187. 1226 01:15:02,030 --> 01:15:06,510 Vineyard or Friends of the Vineyard Library asked for 2000 and they had a score of 180. 1227 01:15:07,150 --> 01:15:10,550 Carry on was third. That was the portable skate ramp. 1228 01:15:12,230 --> 01:15:15,830 And they asked for $14,500. 1229 01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:21,790 But could also do partial funding. Heritage Foundation asked for 15,000 could also. 1230 01:15:21,870 --> 01:15:26,310 Go forward with partial funding and then Utah Valley Symphony and Utah Lake found. 1231 01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:32,550 Well, Utah Valley Symphony Ashford 2 grand for a theme song for a vineyard to be played at events and. 1232 01:15:33,590 --> 01:15:36,150 Gatherings and the Utah Lake. 1233 01:15:36,350 --> 01:15:37,430 Foundation. 1234 01:15:37,870 --> 01:15:41,630 Paddle event. We were awarded 2500 dollars. 1235 01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:44,390 So the ones that are grayed out are. 1236 01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:46,630 Ones after discussing. 1237 01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:51,030 We decided as an arch Commission not to award the funds. 1238 01:15:51,390 --> 01:15:54,710 Two, and if we go to the next slide, I can kind of cover that. 1239 01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:58,735 And can I ask you can ask questions. Yeah. I was like, I'm just rattling this off trying to help you pull the information I'm 1240 01:15:58,735 --> 01:16:02,040 reading that I'm looking at the. 1241 01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:05,510 Packet that was presented at the end of January. 1242 01:16:05,870 --> 01:16:09,430 And there's changes to the scoring structure as well as. 1243 01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:12,110 Obviously some of the allocations. 1244 01:16:13,790 --> 01:16:14,910 I'm curious. 1245 01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:19,730 Was someone added to the scoring? Because like on these, the overall scores, I mean capped at 156 and the highest was the Heritage 1246 01:16:19,730 --> 01:16:23,870 Foundation in January? 1247 01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:26,790 Now it's, you know, number four or five on your list. 1248 01:16:27,230 --> 01:16:31,530 Down and the scores are in the one seventies, one 80s and higher. So I'm just curious what what changed in the scoring rubric and 1249 01:16:31,530 --> 01:16:35,830 and how was that factored in? 1250 01:16:37,230 --> 01:16:38,990 I think the libraries were the top ranked. 1251 01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:41,070 Across the board. 1252 01:16:42,430 --> 01:16:42,750 Okay. 1253 01:16:45,710 --> 01:16:46,190 OK. 1254 01:16:47,630 --> 01:16:52,630 There was a member who had not submitted their scores because they were out of town at that time. 1255 01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:54,710 And so with that. 1256 01:16:55,150 --> 01:16:57,590 Extra scoring that shifted the. 1257 01:16:58,750 --> 01:16:59,550 Total. 1258 01:16:59,630 --> 01:17:01,030 Points OK for that. 1259 01:17:02,340 --> 01:17:04,440 And that was, I think that was 1 member. 1260 01:17:04,710 --> 01:17:06,510 Who did that? And so that was. 1261 01:17:07,190 --> 01:17:08,430 Shifted them slightly. 1262 01:17:09,410 --> 01:17:10,680 Sorry, what was the other question? 1263 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,320 Did I cover it? Yeah, that's the the general. Just I was curious because the scores are. 1264 01:17:16,510 --> 01:17:21,790 Difference. There's a different scale obviously then between the two of them and then that changed. 1265 01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:24,590 I mean significant allocations of. 1266 01:17:24,990 --> 01:17:26,510 This grant allotment. 1267 01:17:26,830 --> 01:17:28,190 And where it's going. 1268 01:17:28,910 --> 01:17:29,270 Yeah. 1269 01:17:30,710 --> 01:17:33,830 Also, I've got another question. You mentioned just briefly that. 1270 01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:36,190 The Heritage Foundation. 1271 01:17:37,070 --> 01:17:38,990 Could move forward with partial funding. 1272 01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:43,120 I read in the application that one of the reasons it was reduced to 0 is because. 1273 01:17:43,230 --> 01:17:46,110 They would need the full funding to complete the project this year. 1274 01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:51,680 Yeah, going back and forth with them. I mean, there's members of the Heritage Foundation here. 1275 01:17:51,870 --> 01:17:56,110 They, well, I mean, I could go to that slide if we're all agreed on the. 1276 01:17:56,230 --> 01:17:57,230 Vineyard Libraries. 1277 01:17:58,590 --> 01:17:59,870 Jump the gun there, yeah. 1278 01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:07,230 Yeah. So we, we on the Arts Commission feel really strongly about the Heritage Foundation and we love the initiatives. 1279 01:18:07,710 --> 01:18:09,840 Part of the reasons after discussing. 1280 01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:13,470 Because the skate ramp. 1281 01:18:14,350 --> 01:18:16,670 Did end up scoring higher afterward. 1282 01:18:16,830 --> 01:18:19,510 We were like, oh, we should give the skate ramp. 1283 01:18:20,270 --> 01:18:20,990 Some of that. 1284 01:18:21,190 --> 01:18:25,190 While we initially awarded the skate ramp about 6 grand to build. 1285 01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:26,870 Like a halfpipe. 1286 01:18:26,990 --> 01:18:29,550 And then after talking to legal and going back and forth with. 1287 01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:30,710 Brian. 1288 01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:33,230 And kind of looking at overall. 1289 01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:34,350 Holistically, we're. 1290 01:18:34,430 --> 01:18:37,990 We could keep the some of that money in the wrap tax and. 1291 01:18:38,350 --> 01:18:41,590 Keep it going toward the larger skate park initiative. 1292 01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:43,350 And hopefully getting that. 1293 01:18:43,550 --> 01:18:44,430 $1,000,000 grant. 1294 01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:44,990 Right. 1295 01:18:46,510 --> 01:18:47,150 And so. 1296 01:18:48,510 --> 01:18:55,750 And then we heard back from the Heritage Foundation that with the $7500 that we originally had said we'd like to award them. 1297 01:18:56,670 --> 01:18:58,990 That they wouldn't be able to do the curriculum. 1298 01:19:00,670 --> 01:19:04,030 With that and so we went back and said OK. 1299 01:19:05,470 --> 01:19:10,390 There's also so a couple reasons that we said we can reduce that to 0 is. 1300 01:19:10,590 --> 01:19:12,630 One of the things was a few of the members. 1301 01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:15,680 Spouses are teachers. 1302 01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:17,750 Some of them are 4th grade. 1303 01:19:17,870 --> 01:19:19,910 And they said that. 1304 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,960 The likelihood that they would. 1305 01:19:23,070 --> 01:19:26,230 Taken outside course like this and implement into the classroom. 1306 01:19:26,670 --> 01:19:27,870 Was very low. 1307 01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:32,090 And so we kind of looked at and said, well, maybe there's other ways that we can implement this foundation next year. We could 1308 01:19:32,090 --> 01:19:35,870 award a higher amount to the Heritage Foundation. 1309 01:19:36,270 --> 01:19:36,990 To do that. 1310 01:19:37,670 --> 01:19:39,910 The other reasons were they also have a. 1311 01:19:40,670 --> 01:19:41,750 Concurrent project. 1312 01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:44,110 That is. 1313 01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:46,280 Do I think in the next few months? 1314 01:19:47,030 --> 01:19:50,950 And one of the things that they said they would do is have the curriculum ready by. 1315 01:19:51,870 --> 01:19:57,760 August for the start of the school year. So we felt like that was a lot all of a sudden to be like, OK, finish the last project. 1316 01:19:57,910 --> 01:20:01,560 That you were awarded, I think it was $16,000 from the previous year. 1317 01:20:01,670 --> 01:20:03,110 That's still ongoing. 1318 01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:05,030 And then the final reason. 1319 01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:06,550 For the Heritage Foundation. 1320 01:20:06,630 --> 01:20:13,120 Was the America 250. As part of that initiative, we are planning on creating a series of videos. 1321 01:20:14,910 --> 01:20:16,590 Interviewing veterans. 1322 01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:18,870 From Vineyard, getting the. 1323 01:20:18,990 --> 01:20:19,790 Basis of. 1324 01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:23,590 Or the history behind Geneva Steel and some of the early residents and so. 1325 01:20:24,750 --> 01:20:26,230 By having those videos this year. 1326 01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:30,590 That would build on the Heritage Foundation's curriculum for next year when they applied. 1327 01:20:31,310 --> 01:20:33,470 I assume they'll apply again under similar circumstances. 1328 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,080 That was a lot, anyway. 1329 01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:38,790 Thank you. 1330 01:20:39,670 --> 01:20:43,150 Any other questions on this Continue the presentation, Yeah. 1331 01:20:43,390 --> 01:20:44,430 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 1332 01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:49,990 If you go to SO just a word on the. I think I covered this. 1333 01:20:50,110 --> 01:20:54,710 The skate park, but we decided not to fund that one despite the the higher score. 1334 01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:57,830 And then the next was the Utah Valley Symphony. 1335 01:20:58,750 --> 01:20:59,630 This. 1336 01:21:00,750 --> 01:21:02,430 We thought was kind of. 1337 01:21:03,070 --> 01:21:08,910 Thing and it's really a labor of love. The cost would be much more than $2000. 1338 01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:14,190 And potentially we could get a lot of members of the Symphony kind of creating a a fanfare. 1339 01:21:14,630 --> 01:21:16,310 For the city and. 1340 01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:17,950 Jordan, one of our residents is. 1341 01:21:19,330 --> 01:21:20,080 Is here. 1342 01:21:20,150 --> 01:21:25,870 And has contributed a lot with to certain events, just getting groups together, brass and playing. And so we wanted to award them 1343 01:21:25,870 --> 01:21:31,590 for that. 1344 01:21:31,980 --> 01:21:35,940 And their contributions to events and city. 1345 01:21:36,180 --> 01:21:37,260 And the final? 1346 01:21:39,340 --> 01:21:41,620 Award was the Utah Lake Foundation they requested. 1347 01:21:41,780 --> 01:21:43,580 $9000 for. 1348 01:21:46,580 --> 01:21:47,540 A large event. 1349 01:21:48,220 --> 01:21:52,860 We decided we didn't want to fund them to the fullest and we had a couple requests to tie that into Vineyard days and to make it 1350 01:21:52,860 --> 01:21:57,500 go from AF to. 1351 01:21:57,980 --> 01:21:58,740 Vineyard but. 1352 01:21:58,820 --> 01:22:00,500 For safety and for wind. 1353 01:22:01,420 --> 01:22:02,740 And various other reasons. 1354 01:22:03,660 --> 01:22:04,510 We have to go. 1355 01:22:04,940 --> 01:22:07,620 From vineyard to there. And so we awarded them. 1356 01:22:09,340 --> 01:22:12,540 $1500 for the equipment and then $1000 for. 1357 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:15,030 The food. 1358 01:22:16,060 --> 01:22:17,420 So that the. 1359 01:22:18,820 --> 01:22:21,140 Oh, and it's for safety. 1360 01:22:21,260 --> 01:22:22,540 Along the way as well. 1361 01:22:22,940 --> 01:22:27,140 But we all feel passionate about Utah Lake and that's a part of the community. We want to see that be involved in more of Vineyard 1362 01:22:27,140 --> 01:22:31,340 events and what we do. 1363 01:22:34,730 --> 01:22:37,350 I think that's it, Gash. Is that the last slide? That's the last slide. 1364 01:22:39,380 --> 01:22:41,460 Anyway, that's our recommendation to the Council. 1365 01:22:41,740 --> 01:22:47,580 Thanks. Kash, would you bring back the slide that had the totals and what they were? 1366 01:22:47,820 --> 01:22:48,620 Recommending uh. 1367 01:22:50,820 --> 01:22:51,460 Thanks. 1368 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:54,080 Yeah. 1369 01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,390 So I think that puts about. 1370 01:22:59,210 --> 01:23:01,710 I can't remember what the total is, maybe 11 grand. 1371 01:23:02,140 --> 01:23:03,140 Keeping it into the. 1372 01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:05,060 Rap tax for. 1373 01:23:05,580 --> 01:23:06,500 Skate park to. 1374 01:23:06,620 --> 01:23:08,500 Get us closer to that. 1375 01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:13,430 I think it's 509,870 is what I've got on the packet. 1376 01:23:13,580 --> 01:23:14,340 But is that? 1377 01:23:15,140 --> 01:23:19,420 The sound, well, that's the spend versus what he's saying would stay in the rap tax. 1378 01:23:19,620 --> 01:23:22,060 You're talking about two sides of the same number. 1379 01:23:22,220 --> 01:23:22,780 Yeah. 1380 01:23:22,860 --> 01:23:23,260 Yeah. 1381 01:23:24,300 --> 01:23:26,180 So that there be about 11 grand. 1382 01:23:26,980 --> 01:23:28,100 I think it's 11 grand. 1383 01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:31,460 Left that would stay in the wrap tax that would. 1384 01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:34,380 We would hope would be dedicated to the skate park. 1385 01:23:34,460 --> 01:23:35,140 Grant. 1386 01:23:35,260 --> 01:23:36,620 Then get there sooner. 1387 01:23:36,740 --> 01:23:38,580 So that we could move forward with that build. 1388 01:23:39,020 --> 01:23:41,940 There seems to be a lot of interest in. 1389 01:23:42,220 --> 01:23:43,260 In that park. 1390 01:23:43,780 --> 01:23:47,700 Hey Brian, I can see you on Tony's computer. Are you listening in? 1391 01:23:49,770 --> 01:23:52,330 You got the nod to your Yeah, I got a nod from you. 1392 01:23:53,340 --> 01:23:55,590 Hey, out of curiosity, what's the? 1393 01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,150 Actual amount of funding. 1394 01:23:59,260 --> 01:24:03,580 To match the grant for the skate park right now available in the wrap tax. Do you know? 1395 01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:08,070 We have. 1396 01:24:09,730 --> 01:24:11,590 510,000. 1397 01:24:11,860 --> 01:24:14,540 $139.16. 1398 01:24:14,700 --> 01:24:20,430 And I'm sure that that includes the $11,000 because it hasn't been taken and appropriated anywhere yet, correct? 1399 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,310 9870 so you don't need it. 1400 01:24:24,580 --> 01:24:26,300 Yeah, to me it sounds like you don't. 1401 01:24:26,420 --> 01:24:31,820 Need it then for that project because it already has the funds to cover it. You're also generating roughly what, 30 grand a month 1402 01:24:31,820 --> 01:24:37,220 into the rap tax from sales tax? Or 25 grand I can't remember off the top of my head. 1403 01:24:37,820 --> 01:24:39,620 But but what I'm getting at is. 1404 01:24:39,940 --> 01:24:46,620 Why? What's the recommendation of the purpose behind not using the full 20,000 then if we already have the funds allocated? 1405 01:24:46,700 --> 01:24:49,260 In the RAP tax to meet the grant requirement. 1406 01:24:49,820 --> 01:24:52,860 Oh yeah, my understanding that we were short of. 1407 01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:55,460 Of that, I thought we were in the floor. It's for the total. 1408 01:24:56,020 --> 01:24:57,180 Because it's like one point. 1409 01:24:57,460 --> 01:24:58,900 I can speak to that as well. 1410 01:24:59,020 --> 01:24:59,740 Please, Brian. 1411 01:24:59,820 --> 01:25:00,420 Thanks. 1412 01:25:01,980 --> 01:25:02,780 Yes, so. 1413 01:25:03,700 --> 01:25:07,060 With the skate park grant the total cost. 1414 01:25:07,460 --> 01:25:08,940 Is going to come to. 1415 01:25:10,540 --> 01:25:12,100 We'll talk about this in the next. 1416 01:25:12,460 --> 01:25:17,020 Business item but the overall cost for the skate park with all of the. 1417 01:25:18,060 --> 01:25:22,160 Added parking, landscaping, restroom, facility, all of that. It's going to come to about 1.2 or $1.3 million right around that 1418 01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:26,260 ballpark. 1419 01:25:27,300 --> 01:25:29,660 And so essentially with the wrap tax. 1420 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,070 Fund that we currently have, it won't. 1421 01:25:33,220 --> 01:25:34,100 Cover. 1422 01:25:34,300 --> 01:25:37,180 The entire project, so we would need to allocate. 1423 01:25:37,780 --> 01:25:39,580 Future wrap tax funds to this. 1424 01:25:40,300 --> 01:25:42,540 So yes, using some of this. 1425 01:25:43,220 --> 01:25:44,620 Rap tax fund. 1426 01:25:44,740 --> 01:25:50,060 To go towards the arts grant, it does reduce the amount of money we have to go towards the skate park. 1427 01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:53,340 But if that is something that City Council. 1428 01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:54,660 Values. 1429 01:25:54,780 --> 01:25:56,340 We can definitely go that route. 1430 01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,520 I'm curious too. We talked. 1431 01:26:00,420 --> 01:26:05,140 Previously about this in an e-mail this week when I expressed my support for the skate park. 1432 01:26:05,980 --> 01:26:06,980 But it was. 1433 01:26:07,420 --> 01:26:10,380 Looking at the possibility of how do we phase the skate park? 1434 01:26:10,460 --> 01:26:11,780 Construction so that. 1435 01:26:11,860 --> 01:26:15,380 Knowing we're going to be 1.21 point 3,000,000 on that and it's. 1436 01:26:15,580 --> 01:26:18,260 Not covered by the funds we currently have in the grant. 1437 01:26:18,500 --> 01:26:20,740 How do we phase that in in such a way? 1438 01:26:20,940 --> 01:26:25,500 That the incoming wrap tax is paying for it before the construction occurs. 1439 01:26:25,780 --> 01:26:29,540 And it sounded like that was something that was very feasible. Is that accurate? 1440 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,110 Yes, that is accurate the full. 1441 01:26:35,260 --> 01:26:36,780 How do we get the grant? 1442 01:26:38,450 --> 01:26:41,030 That we move forward with the skate park project. 1443 01:26:41,380 --> 01:26:43,860 Full build out wouldn't occur until. 1444 01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:45,860 About June of 2027. 1445 01:26:46,300 --> 01:26:47,620 So that gives us. 1446 01:26:49,610 --> 01:26:51,350 Roughly 15 months. 1447 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,030 To continue to accrue tax. 1448 01:26:54,140 --> 01:26:55,980 Response So if we. 1449 01:26:56,740 --> 01:26:59,340 Continue to accrue about 20,000 a month. 1450 01:27:00,340 --> 01:27:01,380 We will be just. 1451 01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:03,190 Find and have all of that money. 1452 01:27:03,620 --> 01:27:05,860 Secured before that park is. 1453 01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:07,060 Is even done. 1454 01:27:07,300 --> 01:27:08,460 With construction. 1455 01:27:08,540 --> 01:27:09,460 Real quick and those. 1456 01:27:09,740 --> 01:27:13,220 Is 20,000 how much we have leftover after our operational costs? 1457 01:27:13,620 --> 01:27:15,540 Because I think some of the rec team. 1458 01:27:15,860 --> 01:27:17,780 Funded by the RAP tax, Is that correct? 1459 01:27:19,150 --> 01:27:19,750 I know we. 1460 01:27:19,820 --> 01:27:20,540 Used to do that. 1461 01:27:22,390 --> 01:27:25,350 Funded by the by the rap tax? No just. 1462 01:27:25,780 --> 01:27:27,510 $20,000 a year. 1463 01:27:27,860 --> 01:27:32,820 Up to this point, has typically been allocated by City Council for the Arch grant. 1464 01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:36,190 Yeah, OK. And. 1465 01:27:36,820 --> 01:27:38,860 I would be curious then to look at. 1466 01:27:39,740 --> 01:27:43,900 Actually, let me ask this, what's the the timeline for the requirement for us to? 1467 01:27:44,020 --> 01:27:46,300 Submit the the Arch Commission. 1468 01:27:46,540 --> 01:27:47,620 Grant Awards. 1469 01:27:48,060 --> 01:27:52,080 Is there a hard deadline that that has to be done by? I think, I think we just need to present to the council in March. I don't 1470 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,100 know if they is it a requiring approval in the bylaws. 1471 01:27:56,180 --> 01:27:58,420 For March approval, I'm kind of looking at Brian cause. 1472 01:28:00,910 --> 01:28:05,670 Yes, in the bylaws it does mention that we would disperse funding in March. 1473 01:28:05,780 --> 01:28:07,230 So technically. 1474 01:28:07,500 --> 01:28:09,260 We could wait two weeks. 1475 01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:12,580 If if the Council wanted to wait to. 1476 01:28:13,870 --> 01:28:18,510 Converse about this and make a decision then. But ideally if we could have a decision made by. 1477 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,110 I guess that would be the 24th of March. We would be just fine. 1478 01:28:23,180 --> 01:28:26,260 The reason I ask is I'd be curious to see, you know, knowing that. 1479 01:28:26,900 --> 01:28:27,700 We have. 1480 01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:32,350 The funds available to start the project and have the funds available to. 1481 01:28:32,460 --> 01:28:34,420 Pay for it overtime with the rap tax. 1482 01:28:34,700 --> 01:28:39,980 What's the actual recommendation look like to use that $20,000 in grant I mean? 1483 01:28:40,750 --> 01:28:43,710 Am I you guys on board with maybe looking at that? 1484 01:28:44,780 --> 01:28:48,340 We could, we could revisit that as large Commission as well and say OK if. 1485 01:28:48,660 --> 01:28:49,420 Knowing that. 1486 01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:50,180 You know, with. 1487 01:28:50,380 --> 01:28:52,180 The skate park wouldn't start for. 1488 01:28:52,340 --> 01:28:54,740 15 more months, right and there would be adequate. 1489 01:28:54,860 --> 01:28:55,620 Funds. 1490 01:28:56,140 --> 01:28:58,780 By the time we're ready to go when that grant comes. 1491 01:28:59,020 --> 01:29:00,230 I thought I thought the grant was. 1492 01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:01,180 To be awarded. 1493 01:29:01,420 --> 01:29:01,860 Within a. 1494 01:29:02,580 --> 01:29:04,820 In the next couple months. And so it needed to be. 1495 01:29:06,460 --> 01:29:08,500 That amount needed to be full. 1496 01:29:08,620 --> 01:29:09,980 In order to get that, but maybe. 1497 01:29:10,900 --> 01:29:13,180 Misremembering that, Brian, are you hearing that question? 1498 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,990 I'm not sure if I totally understood the question. Can you repeat well? 1499 01:29:19,060 --> 01:29:21,030 I think a lot of these with the timing, it's like. 1500 01:29:22,090 --> 01:29:25,070 We want to have these ready for summer, like with the library and. 1501 01:29:25,180 --> 01:29:27,700 And so getting the prep, I think it's more a matter of just. 1502 01:29:27,740 --> 01:29:30,310 Making sure we're getting the money out soon enough so people can. 1503 01:29:30,380 --> 01:29:31,380 Prep for summer, right? 1504 01:29:32,620 --> 01:29:37,990 OK, now you're talking about this though, and we're talking about the skate park build out over the next 15 months. 1505 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:43,110 And yeah, when when is the grant application due for the skate park? 1506 01:29:45,090 --> 01:29:49,230 I thought we'd turn that in already. The application is due on Friday of this week. 1507 01:29:49,660 --> 01:29:51,380 OK, so we don't need to have. 1508 01:29:51,460 --> 01:29:54,510 We don't need to have it fully funded at that time, just at the time. 1509 01:29:55,230 --> 01:29:58,830 OK. All right. Just the commitment for the sons, I think. 1510 01:29:59,740 --> 01:30:01,100 Arch Commission meets. 1511 01:30:01,340 --> 01:30:05,420 Arch Commission, I believe meets next week and so we could look at that and say, hey, how do we want to? 1512 01:30:06,340 --> 01:30:07,100 Knowing that. 1513 01:30:07,220 --> 01:30:08,460 The skate park's taken care of. 1514 01:30:08,540 --> 01:30:11,300 Do we want to put that funding into the Heritage Foundation or? 1515 01:30:11,700 --> 01:30:14,740 Put that up in other ways and we can discuss with the Heritage Foundation. 1516 01:30:14,900 --> 01:30:17,820 With that funding, what is a feasible? 1517 01:30:17,900 --> 01:30:19,940 Timeline and deliverable for that. 1518 01:30:20,380 --> 01:30:21,820 If that's what the Council would like. 1519 01:30:21,860 --> 01:30:24,300 Are you guys good at that? That's what I would like to see happen. 1520 01:30:24,380 --> 01:30:30,220 Mayor, I would move that we would continue this item for the until two weeks from now, our next regularly scheduled meeting. 1521 01:30:31,100 --> 01:30:36,270 Emotional guidance I would Before you make a motion, I wanted to make a comment. I was able to go speak. 1522 01:30:36,660 --> 01:30:38,820 The mayor had me go meet with the 2. 1523 01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:42,060 Principles from the. 1524 01:30:42,220 --> 01:30:43,780 Both the elementary schools here. 1525 01:30:45,250 --> 01:30:48,170 Miss Belletti is fantastic. Giovanni. 1526 01:30:49,190 --> 01:30:50,590 Was way cool as well. 1527 01:30:51,660 --> 01:30:52,830 Both of them. 1528 01:30:53,060 --> 01:30:54,070 Are like. 1529 01:30:54,340 --> 01:30:57,020 First off, they didn't know we had a city library. 1530 01:30:57,740 --> 01:30:59,860 So I was shocked at that. They had no clue. 1531 01:31:01,540 --> 01:31:03,660 And they were so welcoming. 1532 01:31:04,300 --> 01:31:04,380 Of. 1533 01:31:05,060 --> 01:31:06,580 Us and we're like. 1534 01:31:06,700 --> 01:31:09,020 Why aren't you using our library like? 1535 01:31:09,260 --> 01:31:11,220 There, the doors are open. 1536 01:31:11,500 --> 01:31:13,860 It's so big. We have so many books. 1537 01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:16,870 We could make it bigger. How do we work together? 1538 01:31:17,540 --> 01:31:21,100 And I described our library and where things are and they were like. 1539 01:31:21,260 --> 01:31:23,500 How do we work together? Why don't they work with us? 1540 01:31:23,900 --> 01:31:26,270 And I think the Council should look into that because. 1541 01:31:27,210 --> 01:31:30,710 I don't know if we're really great at being in the education business of the city. 1542 01:31:31,900 --> 01:31:35,470 I think our kids want to be educated and read but like. 1543 01:31:35,860 --> 01:31:39,020 Listening to the two principles of like that is their profession. 1544 01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:44,100 Listening to Timpanogos School District leadership, they went back and talked to the board as well. 1545 01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:45,300 And, umm. 1546 01:31:45,660 --> 01:31:49,100 The new school board obviously doesn't know a lot about that, so I think I'm a little bit concerned about the grants for the 1547 01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:52,540 library. 1548 01:31:52,700 --> 01:31:53,860 Not because we don't support. 1549 01:31:54,340 --> 01:31:54,900 But. 1550 01:31:55,060 --> 01:31:58,500 I see a bigger vision that the library could be so much bigger. 1551 01:31:58,620 --> 01:32:02,420 In support and working together with those schools, that's the first thing. Awesome. So we got a motion here. Yeah, I got, I got a 1552 01:32:02,420 --> 01:32:06,220 motion here. Will you repeat the motion? 1553 01:32:06,980 --> 01:32:12,300 I move. We continue this item for two weeks to our next regularly scheduled meeting where we can. 1554 01:32:12,620 --> 01:32:14,140 Again, discuss these issues. 1555 01:32:14,380 --> 01:32:15,860 OK, do I have a second? 1556 01:32:17,350 --> 01:32:19,270 Before we second it though, yeah, I second it. 1557 01:32:19,940 --> 01:32:22,380 Wood Jacob would second it. Okay. 1558 01:32:22,540 --> 01:32:23,500 All in favor. 1559 01:32:23,700 --> 01:32:23,820 Aye. 1560 01:32:24,940 --> 01:32:25,180 Aye, aye. 1561 01:32:26,580 --> 01:32:27,460 Any news? 1562 01:32:27,900 --> 01:32:29,500 Could we still hear from Sherry? 1563 01:32:29,620 --> 01:32:35,420 Yes, let's do that. We'll continue that. Sherry's here. Let's come. You want to come up and Sherry, Kate? 1564 01:32:35,500 --> 01:32:36,140 She good. 1565 01:32:37,460 --> 01:32:39,180 Yeah, yeah. I just had a couple. 1566 01:32:40,020 --> 01:32:41,860 Like, yeah, I just had a couple questions on. 1567 01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:45,020 Emotions on motion The motion Motion that we motioned. 1568 01:32:45,460 --> 01:32:51,140 So hold on till the motion passes. So we'll continue this till neck for two weeks. That passed. OK Sherry Kay, please. 1569 01:32:52,130 --> 01:32:55,830 Are you asking me questions? Yes, I had. I just, I just heard you. 1570 01:32:56,140 --> 01:32:58,500 Things that I couldn't hear anything you were saying. 1571 01:32:58,660 --> 01:32:59,700 From up here but. 1572 01:32:59,820 --> 01:33:03,180 I just wanted to get a better idea of the the Heritage Foundation and what. 1573 01:33:03,500 --> 01:33:05,140 What would be helpful if we could? 1574 01:33:05,260 --> 01:33:10,100 Find a way to partially support. How was the $6000 original award going to be used and. 1575 01:33:10,180 --> 01:33:14,020 And just get your thoughts on that, see if we could try to. What I would really love to do is. 1576 01:33:14,100 --> 01:33:17,900 Talk to Jerem privately. We could do this because there's things that. 1577 01:33:18,260 --> 01:33:20,420 Were set in that meeting that were not accurate. 1578 01:33:20,940 --> 01:33:24,380 As far as the fund, like the money that's been spent? 1579 01:33:24,820 --> 01:33:26,900 Like what I would like to tell you is that it's. 1580 01:33:26,980 --> 01:33:28,940 Took a while to get 7 estimates. 1581 01:33:29,020 --> 01:33:34,260 And get approvals and things like that. We, we are under, we are ready for the sign. The sign is. 1582 01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:35,620 Ready for to go? 1583 01:33:35,940 --> 01:33:39,140 So the fact that you were questioning that we hadn't spent the money. 1584 01:33:39,900 --> 01:33:41,540 That that would complicate it is. 1585 01:33:41,620 --> 01:33:42,380 Not accurate. 1586 01:33:43,330 --> 01:33:46,530 OK. And the fact that when I. 1587 01:33:46,820 --> 01:33:50,980 Thought that we had the 7500 because that was originally. 1588 01:33:51,060 --> 01:33:52,190 Was the decision. 1589 01:33:53,580 --> 01:33:54,260 I already. 1590 01:33:54,340 --> 01:33:59,300 We already kind of started talking with the principals and stuff, so anyway, I guess. 1591 01:34:00,220 --> 01:34:03,700 And Jeremy didn't know that because I wasn't at the meeting. I couldn't. 1592 01:34:03,980 --> 01:34:05,940 Talk. And they didn't know that that was. 1593 01:34:06,380 --> 01:34:07,740 That had happened so. 1594 01:34:07,980 --> 01:34:09,500 They they brought that up to me and I. 1595 01:34:09,620 --> 01:34:10,670 They were excited about it. 1596 01:34:11,060 --> 01:34:11,700 The curriculum. 1597 01:34:11,780 --> 01:34:17,820 Well, Ben Johnson, like I said, the UVU, he is in history and education, he is already. 1598 01:34:17,980 --> 01:34:19,460 Kind of has a plan. 1599 01:34:19,580 --> 01:34:24,300 For curriculum development with students that he's working with on campus. 1600 01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:29,260 And he's already talked to Giovanni. They're, they're very good friends. Anyway, I guess that's what the Heritage Commission did 1601 01:34:29,260 --> 01:34:33,620 not know at the last meeting when I wasn't there. 1602 01:34:33,900 --> 01:34:38,780 Thank you. So, so 7500 would be helpful and you'd still be able to. 1603 01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:41,340 Kind of continue, maybe not for this year, but next year. 1604 01:34:41,460 --> 01:34:42,980 Develop curriculum or something I. 1605 01:34:43,540 --> 01:34:44,140 I mean. 1606 01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:45,700 Or maybe outside grants? 1607 01:34:45,780 --> 01:34:48,660 With the help of the student at UVU, I think we could probably. 1608 01:34:48,780 --> 01:34:50,940 Bring it in for a lower number. 1609 01:34:51,660 --> 01:34:57,180 I mean, $7500 is the money that when I went to Ben Johnson and we met, he was like. 1610 01:34:57,260 --> 01:34:59,860 We can do this. So that was. 1611 01:35:00,620 --> 01:35:01,220 Anyway. 1612 01:35:01,900 --> 01:35:02,700 Thank you any. 1613 01:35:03,220 --> 01:35:03,900 Questions. 1614 01:35:04,020 --> 01:35:05,540 No, that's helpful. OK. 1615 01:35:06,420 --> 01:35:07,140 Thank you. 1616 01:35:07,540 --> 01:35:08,340 OK, so. 1617 01:35:08,660 --> 01:35:10,660 And it is 9870 that we have. 1618 01:35:10,780 --> 01:35:12,580 For the skate park right now, because this is. 1619 01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:14,260 10 and some change. 1620 01:35:14,380 --> 01:35:15,620 OK. Thank you. 1621 01:35:15,980 --> 01:35:21,380 OK, thank you. Let's jump to 8.2 Vineyard Skate Park budget allocation. 1622 01:35:23,100 --> 01:35:26,660 Brian, would you like to introduce this item 8.2 real quick? 1623 01:35:31,630 --> 01:35:33,070 Yes, you bet. Thank you. 1624 01:35:33,500 --> 01:35:35,340 Yes. So the purpose of this? 1625 01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:41,460 Resolution is just to identify the intent. 1626 01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:43,220 Of the City Council. 1627 01:35:43,500 --> 01:35:45,340 The pending we receive. 1628 01:35:45,660 --> 01:35:49,220 A $500,000 grant from the Utah. 1629 01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:50,700 Outdoor recreation. 1630 01:35:50,780 --> 01:35:51,580 Division. 1631 01:35:53,020 --> 01:35:57,980 That City Council is open to allocating our current. 1632 01:35:58,420 --> 01:35:59,860 Rap tax fund. 1633 01:36:01,380 --> 01:36:04,540 As well as incoming rap tax funds. 1634 01:36:05,020 --> 01:36:06,460 To a specific amount. 1635 01:36:06,820 --> 01:36:10,460 To cover the expenses, to ensure we can build that skate park. 1636 01:36:10,820 --> 01:36:12,300 Pending we received that award. 1637 01:36:13,180 --> 01:36:16,500 Brian, you shared in an e-mail this week your three different. 1638 01:36:16,660 --> 01:36:21,780 Courses of action or plans, AB and C, would you maybe just briefly go over those for the people that are listening? 1639 01:36:23,390 --> 01:36:24,750 Yes, absolutely. 1640 01:36:25,140 --> 01:36:29,340 So with the you are grant there are two different. 1641 01:36:29,820 --> 01:36:32,100 Grant options that we could go for. 1642 01:36:32,180 --> 01:36:33,180 For this skate park. 1643 01:36:34,260 --> 01:36:37,660 The first one is we could go after the regional asset. 1644 01:36:39,870 --> 01:36:40,990 Application. 1645 01:36:41,060 --> 01:36:42,750 That would allow us to get. 1646 01:36:42,980 --> 01:36:46,700 500,000 and $1.00 to $1 million. 1647 01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:51,980 And the other option would be we do a Tier 1. 1648 01:36:52,500 --> 01:36:55,700 Which we request up to $500,000. 1649 01:36:58,060 --> 01:37:01,460 We're planning to apply for the regional asset. 1650 01:37:01,700 --> 01:37:04,860 Just because that allows us to potentially get. 1651 01:37:05,220 --> 01:37:07,540 More funding to build out the park. 1652 01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:11,830 So we kind of have three options. 1653 01:37:12,060 --> 01:37:14,390 Plan A is that we. 1654 01:37:14,620 --> 01:37:15,420 Include. 1655 01:37:15,780 --> 01:37:17,220 Everything with the skate park. 1656 01:37:17,580 --> 01:37:18,900 All the landscaping. 1657 01:37:19,140 --> 01:37:20,340 Added parking lot. 1658 01:37:20,700 --> 01:37:22,260 With the restroom facility. 1659 01:37:22,820 --> 01:37:27,060 That would mean that the total overall project cost would be. 1660 01:37:27,660 --> 01:37:30,300 1,372,000. 1661 01:37:30,380 --> 01:37:33,350 $211.78. 1662 01:37:34,430 --> 01:37:37,830 Which means because this grant is a 5050 match, we would. 1663 01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:39,260 Pay for half of that. 1664 01:37:39,380 --> 01:37:41,300 And you work would pay the other half. 1665 01:37:42,410 --> 01:37:43,250 Our Plan B. 1666 01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:47,300 Would be that we take out the restroom facility. 1667 01:37:47,860 --> 01:37:51,660 Which is projected to be about $150,000. 1668 01:37:53,550 --> 01:37:56,310 So that would bring the total cost. 1669 01:37:56,780 --> 01:37:58,100 Let's see each. 1670 01:37:58,380 --> 01:38:01,940 Us and you work would each need to pay 611,000. 1671 01:38:02,140 --> 01:38:04,500 $105.89. 1672 01:38:05,450 --> 01:38:09,070 And then plan C is if we don't get awarded. 1673 01:38:11,620 --> 01:38:17,540 Umm for the regional asset we do have the option to get tier one which is the up to 500,000. 1674 01:38:18,660 --> 01:38:20,710 If that was all we were able to get. 1675 01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:23,260 We would not include a restroom facility. 1676 01:38:23,420 --> 01:38:28,740 And we would need to pay $722,211.78. 1677 01:38:29,180 --> 01:38:33,940 I know that's kind of a lot. I apologize that I'm out of town at a conference today. I appreciate. 1678 01:38:34,940 --> 01:38:37,460 Tony allowing me to jump in on this. 1679 01:38:37,940 --> 01:38:42,680 Any other questions you have with that? Yeah. Can I ask about your Plan A just because of the way it was presented here, maybe I 1680 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:47,420 got confused and I want to make sure nobody else is confused too. So you said it was? 1681 01:38:48,180 --> 01:38:50,420 372 million. 1682 01:38:50,660 --> 01:38:52,260 At a 5050 grant. 1683 01:38:52,340 --> 01:38:55,340 Now in that that tier one plan a thing. 1684 01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:00,030 Does that mean that we would be actually 5050 splitting the one point? 1685 01:39:00,140 --> 01:39:05,820 You know, 4 million or is it still just A500500 and the rap tax is paying for the remainder? 1686 01:39:05,860 --> 01:39:07,150 372,000. 1687 01:39:10,740 --> 01:39:14,820 Let's see for the 1.372 million. 1688 01:39:14,980 --> 01:39:20,160 That you just said that would be a 5050 match, so the city, we would be responsible for just paying half of that amount. So the 1689 01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:25,340 687 hundred 1105 and $0.89. 1690 01:39:25,820 --> 01:39:32,660 OK, Thank you. Do you have to select which which one you're applying for or is it like a tier where we can? 1691 01:39:32,740 --> 01:39:36,300 Apply for the regional one and if we don't get it, we can still apply for the Tier 1. 1692 01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:39,510 Or we could downgrade our application with this. 1693 01:39:40,230 --> 01:39:44,190 The later often that you just said we apply for the regional and then on the application it asks if we don't get funding, do we 1694 01:39:44,190 --> 01:39:48,150 want to be considered for Tier 1. 1695 01:39:48,540 --> 01:39:52,340 And that's where I put yes, so that we can be considered for both options. 1696 01:39:52,540 --> 01:39:52,780 OK. 1697 01:39:55,860 --> 01:39:57,660 I think we already kind of went over. 1698 01:39:57,740 --> 01:39:58,980 Mathematically, uh. 1699 01:39:59,540 --> 01:40:02,860 The money that we have in the wrap tax currently and the time. 1700 01:40:02,940 --> 01:40:04,100 Over the course of the build. 1701 01:40:04,700 --> 01:40:07,870 Generates enough revenue to still pay for the full. 1702 01:40:07,980 --> 01:40:09,740 Plan a tier one option. 1703 01:40:10,140 --> 01:40:13,580 But then you are committed to using the RAP tax for that. 1704 01:40:13,820 --> 01:40:15,150 For the course of the next year. 1705 01:40:17,050 --> 01:40:18,570 I, oh, keep going. 1706 01:40:18,980 --> 01:40:22,060 Oh, I was just going to ask. So in the in the staffing plan I mentioned we'd have to set aside general fund just as part of the 1707 01:40:22,060 --> 01:40:25,140 application. 1708 01:40:25,300 --> 01:40:26,180 Could we do? 1709 01:40:26,300 --> 01:40:28,620 Essentially a loan to the rap tax where we. 1710 01:40:28,740 --> 01:40:31,460 We'd loan that out, then pay the general fund back. 1711 01:40:31,580 --> 01:40:34,580 Just so is is there a requirement that we have those kind of? 1712 01:40:34,660 --> 01:40:38,060 Funds in hand as we apply for it or no, You just have to write it into the grant, I believe. I don't think you have to move money 1713 01:40:38,060 --> 01:40:41,460 into. That's just. 1714 01:40:41,540 --> 01:40:44,230 Yeah, that's just what the staff report kind of sounded like. So. 1715 01:40:45,140 --> 01:40:50,100 Yes, our application would be stronger if we have all of the money up front. 1716 01:40:50,780 --> 01:40:54,140 But I did verify it with the Rep that he said. 1717 01:40:54,540 --> 01:40:56,460 City Council is willing to. 1718 01:40:57,060 --> 01:41:00,620 Commit with the intention to give RAP tax funds that they're OK with that. 1719 01:41:00,780 --> 01:41:01,900 Right. 1720 01:41:05,140 --> 01:41:09,460 I'd prefer to have the stronger application if we can show that we've got the funds without. 1721 01:41:11,070 --> 01:41:14,350 Yeah, whatever, Whatever makes our application stronger if we get the tier. 1722 01:41:14,580 --> 01:41:17,310 Forget the regional one, we payless money at the end of the day so. 1723 01:41:17,420 --> 01:41:23,340 We need the tax from next year to meet that, that halfway mark. We don't. We don't have enough in that right now. 1724 01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:29,310 I I don't agree with. 1725 01:41:29,420 --> 01:41:31,060 Adding an outdoor. 1726 01:41:31,420 --> 01:41:33,020 Bathroom. I don't. 1727 01:41:33,300 --> 01:41:36,620 To the facility and the reason I don't think it enhances it. 1728 01:41:37,060 --> 01:41:39,700 You have the bathroom right here at the City Council. 1729 01:41:40,420 --> 01:41:41,700 It's open. 1730 01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:44,100 You know, every day, 9:00 to 5:00. 1731 01:41:44,620 --> 01:41:46,340 I don't I. 1732 01:41:46,540 --> 01:41:47,870 In speaking with other. 1733 01:41:48,020 --> 01:41:49,460 Parks, I called. 1734 01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:54,900 And it will be a nuisance and it will be a. 1735 01:41:55,210 --> 01:41:58,450 A collector and it's on a main Rd. 1736 01:41:58,850 --> 01:42:00,770 And it will be. 1737 01:42:01,010 --> 01:42:01,970 The neighbor. 1738 01:42:02,410 --> 01:42:03,930 It's just an issue. 1739 01:42:04,370 --> 01:42:10,330 And having him, the people that go there actually walk across the parking lot to go here isn't that big of a. 1740 01:42:10,930 --> 01:42:11,770 Improvement, uh. 1741 01:42:11,850 --> 01:42:14,090 You know of what? Of what's there? 1742 01:42:14,690 --> 01:42:15,410 And. 1743 01:42:16,210 --> 01:42:17,570 I just heard the. 1744 01:42:18,170 --> 01:42:20,130 Public safety increase. 1745 01:42:20,210 --> 01:42:21,210 With having. 1746 01:42:21,290 --> 01:42:22,650 Having one there. 1747 01:42:23,330 --> 01:42:24,050 And after. 1748 01:42:24,490 --> 01:42:25,900 Listening to other cities. 1749 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,780 Provo removed theirs and closed and. 1750 01:42:30,850 --> 01:42:32,730 They just advised against it. 1751 01:42:32,850 --> 01:42:34,810 Due to issues and problems. 1752 01:42:35,410 --> 01:42:36,980 Had you heard that before? 1753 01:42:37,410 --> 01:42:38,220 I don't know. 1754 01:42:38,650 --> 01:42:40,330 Not specifically about. 1755 01:42:40,690 --> 01:42:43,970 The bathroom bathrooms that are parks tend to get issues. 1756 01:42:44,290 --> 01:42:47,530 I think the only thing when Brian asked me about the bathroom issues. 1757 01:42:47,690 --> 01:42:49,130 The only thing my concern was is. 1758 01:42:49,330 --> 01:42:54,350 These bathrooms are like employees in the city are constantly using these bathrooms so they have an increase in flux. If if the 1759 01:42:54,350 --> 01:42:59,370 skate park is as busy as successful as we want it to be, it may be a burden. 1760 01:42:59,730 --> 01:43:05,970 On this facility, that was my yeah, I'm, I'm an advocate for the restroom. And look, we have restrooms in our parks. 1761 01:43:06,450 --> 01:43:09,010 They're maintained, they're not in bad shape. 1762 01:43:09,490 --> 01:43:14,540 Additionally, what time do people use the skate park, You know, in the evenings and stuff like that, especially in the summer, 1763 01:43:14,540 --> 01:43:19,590 you're going to have people out there until 10:00 PM and then you're, you're barring them from using a bathroom. So you're going 1764 01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:24,640 to have a bunch of dudes just go pee on the tree behind the skate park. And that's not the good look because then you get this 1765 01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:29,690 house behind here that's going to be mad that they're seeing those kids go walk and pee in front of the. 1766 01:43:29,770 --> 01:43:30,890 Their house, you know. 1767 01:43:31,370 --> 01:43:36,170 I think it strengthens our application as a regional asset to to have the bathrooms and show it's great. 1768 01:43:36,330 --> 01:43:40,890 This is a yeah. So what's been our experience with the restrooms we have in the parks right now? Well. 1769 01:43:40,970 --> 01:43:42,490 Both Gammon Park and. 1770 01:43:43,010 --> 01:43:43,970 And Grove Park. 1771 01:43:44,090 --> 01:43:50,730 So we occasionally get graffiti. We've had some damage to them before in the past. I mean, that's typical of a facility like that. 1772 01:43:50,810 --> 01:43:55,103 So we got the sheriff's right next door. Yeah. And I mean, we've had several cases of that. I wouldn't say it's like a constant 1773 01:43:55,103 --> 01:43:59,396 problem. We've had several cases where we've had some damage and mostly it's graffiti. So people, kids paint and stuff on the 1774 01:43:59,396 --> 01:44:03,689 walls. 1775 01:44:03,850 --> 01:44:08,530 And I would imagine that that's as easy to resolve as just painting over it for very cheap. 1776 01:44:08,930 --> 01:44:14,410 Yeah, our Parks Department has taken care of those issues. Any safety issues other than that, just graffiti. Well, I mean. 1777 01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:20,070 So in Grove Park we have had some transient people using our restrooms, which we've had to take care of. I mean, obviously there's 1778 01:44:20,070 --> 01:44:24,740 a potential for drug use to happen in bathrooms. 1779 01:44:24,890 --> 01:44:25,530 Quite often. 1780 01:44:25,930 --> 01:44:31,410 Bathrooms all over the place, doesn't matter if other stars or Mavericks. And there is a potential for that, yes, Yeah. 1781 01:44:32,170 --> 01:44:37,570 I I don't want to label people that go to skate parks as a type, but for whatever given reason they were like. 1782 01:44:37,970 --> 01:44:39,770 I would advise both. 1783 01:44:39,890 --> 01:44:42,690 Call. When I called I was like, oh wow. 1784 01:44:42,770 --> 01:44:44,690 I'd be curious on those ones just. 1785 01:44:45,090 --> 01:44:46,770 We can. Brainstorming is Yeah. 1786 01:44:46,850 --> 01:44:51,010 Where were they located? Were they located right next to us? Right? We are right next door. So I just want. 1787 01:44:51,090 --> 01:44:56,157 But maybe in the design of that got the sheriff's vehicles right outside of the I think you know where we put the the bathroom in 1788 01:44:56,157 --> 01:45:01,224 relation to the the layout and I think and I think the facing of the door of going in and out and facing it towards the sheriff so 1789 01:45:01,224 --> 01:45:06,291 we can see. 1790 01:45:06,410 --> 01:45:08,090 Not that it's around the corner. 1791 01:45:09,530 --> 01:45:14,930 That's one of the things that they said, that this is just, it's going to be a nuisance and the neighbors are going to complain. 1792 01:45:15,490 --> 01:45:20,770 So OK any any discussion on further discussion on 8.2? 1793 01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,660 No, hearing none, I will entertain a motion. 1794 01:45:25,090 --> 01:45:26,130 I moved to adopt. 1795 01:45:26,210 --> 01:45:31,850 Resolution 26-13 Allocating funds from the wrap tax. 1796 01:45:31,970 --> 01:45:37,570 For the construction of the Vineyard Skate Park, contingent upon receipt of the 500,000. 1797 01:45:37,730 --> 01:45:40,250 Utah Outdoor Recreation Grant Award. 1798 01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:41,860 2nd. 1799 01:45:42,410 --> 01:45:45,450 All righty, we'll do roll call on this one. Start over here with Ezra. 1800 01:45:45,930 --> 01:45:47,570 Hi, David. Aye. 1801 01:45:48,170 --> 01:45:49,010 Jacob Wood. 1802 01:45:49,610 --> 01:45:50,730 See on what I. 1803 01:45:52,110 --> 01:45:53,030 Jake Holdoy, aye. 1804 01:45:53,570 --> 01:45:54,090 Parker, uh. 1805 01:45:54,290 --> 01:45:56,580 Hi awesome resolution passes. 1806 01:45:57,700 --> 01:45:59,340 All righty Mayor Stratton, can I make? 1807 01:45:59,530 --> 01:46:01,770 Some clarification on that really quick please. 1808 01:46:01,850 --> 01:46:06,090 Yep, after we voted. Come on, yes. 1809 01:46:06,250 --> 01:46:07,210 Was that? 1810 01:46:07,890 --> 01:46:09,290 Approving to. 1811 01:46:09,570 --> 01:46:12,730 Allocate future rap tax funds or to do. 1812 01:46:13,410 --> 01:46:16,930 The general fund and then have Raptac funds. 1813 01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:24,300 Make up the difference that comes from the general fund, just so I know what to put on the application. 1814 01:46:24,410 --> 01:46:27,690 It's rap tax funds, is how this motion reads. Yeah. 1815 01:46:28,370 --> 01:46:29,530 We're dedicating, yeah. 1816 01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,220 We're dedicating the RAP tax fund. 1817 01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,640 That means future wrapped expand. There was no general fund associated with this. 1818 01:46:37,050 --> 01:46:38,330 Yeah. 1819 01:46:38,570 --> 01:46:41,290 OK, awesome. Sounds good. 1820 01:46:42,610 --> 01:46:43,210 OK. 1821 01:46:43,890 --> 01:46:46,490 We're going to jump to 8.3 real quick. 1822 01:46:47,700 --> 01:46:51,860 Public hearing about the development agreement of holdaway fields. We are. 1823 01:46:52,010 --> 01:46:54,610 Actively chatting with these guys regarding. 1824 01:46:55,130 --> 01:46:56,330 Fees so. 1825 01:46:57,370 --> 01:46:58,090 If we could. 1826 01:46:58,330 --> 01:47:00,770 If I could get a motion to continue this public hearing. 1827 01:47:01,130 --> 01:47:06,955 It's also, it's not just holdaway fields, but it's also the Ford and intervals, yes. So we could get a motion for all three of 1828 01:47:06,955 --> 01:47:12,780 those for the next Councilman to continue the public hearing. 1829 01:47:13,010 --> 01:47:16,250 4 hold away fields. The Forge in Intermountain Health. 1830 01:47:16,730 --> 01:47:20,300 Until the City Council meeting on March 24th, 2026. 1831 01:47:20,730 --> 01:47:22,770 Point of point of clarification on. 1832 01:47:22,970 --> 01:47:23,770 Can we? 1833 01:47:23,930 --> 01:47:25,770 Do we have to re notice? 1834 01:47:26,010 --> 01:47:31,030 The hearing, I mean, what's the requirement because we have it posted on the agenda. The original notice that I sent out said we 1835 01:47:31,030 --> 01:47:36,050 would be discussing it at this meeting, but but all the applicants essentially said we're not ready. 1836 01:47:36,170 --> 01:47:40,210 And so we posted it on this agenda saying that we are going to discuss this and now we have a motion to continue it so we no 1837 01:47:40,210 --> 01:47:44,250 longer have to re notice the item. 1838 01:47:44,730 --> 01:47:46,290 Because we're continuing it, correct? 1839 01:47:46,970 --> 01:47:51,630 Yeah, if we were to strike it from the record, then we would re notice and if you want us to or we're more than happy to send out 1840 01:47:51,630 --> 01:47:56,290 mailers again, but just making sure we're staying above the. Absolutely. Thank you. 1841 01:47:57,100 --> 01:47:58,580 Kate, do I have a second to? 1842 01:47:58,930 --> 01:47:59,810 The motion. 1843 01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:02,340 I'll second it. 1844 01:48:02,490 --> 01:48:03,180 Awesome. 1845 01:48:03,290 --> 01:48:04,170 All in favor. 1846 01:48:04,330 --> 01:48:04,450 Aye. 1847 01:48:05,770 --> 01:48:08,450 All right, OK, awesome motion passes. 1848 01:48:10,910 --> 01:48:12,420 Oh, Councilmember Wood. 1849 01:48:13,900 --> 01:48:17,600 How did you vote? I still have to vote even though you're on the phone. Yeah, right. OK, so now we're going to jump back to the 1850 01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,300 appointment. 1851 01:48:22,010 --> 01:48:24,100 And that is the last thing on the agenda. 1852 01:48:24,530 --> 01:48:25,380 So how do we? 1853 01:48:25,570 --> 01:48:26,330 Do we? 1854 01:48:29,460 --> 01:48:32,380 How do we do this? Is this a motion to appoint? 1855 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:34,440 And then? 1856 01:48:36,250 --> 01:48:36,810 Does. 1857 01:48:39,690 --> 01:48:41,050 You could just do it as a. 1858 01:48:41,610 --> 01:48:44,610 Blanket just motion to approve your appointments. 1859 01:48:45,930 --> 01:48:46,410 OK. 1860 01:48:47,890 --> 01:48:51,690 Let's do it. I think that let's let's do 1 by 1 if is that OK? 1861 01:48:51,810 --> 01:48:54,290 And then let me grab. I saw their names here. 1862 01:49:01,210 --> 01:49:02,650 While you do that, I'd like to make. 1863 01:49:03,050 --> 01:49:04,210 Mayor, just make. 1864 01:49:04,290 --> 01:49:05,250 Some comments. 1865 01:49:05,940 --> 01:49:05,980 I. 1866 01:49:09,530 --> 01:49:11,330 Joyfully endorse all three. 1867 01:49:11,410 --> 01:49:12,090 They're great. 1868 01:49:12,450 --> 01:49:13,930 Or they'll do wonderful. 1869 01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,300 And while we're waiting, you can. 1870 01:49:17,650 --> 01:49:21,810 Say now, but I thought I'd say that, OK, we're not waiting anymore, let's do this. 1871 01:49:21,890 --> 01:49:26,223 Motion. Let's do motion this one first, then we'll vote. Let's do 1 by 1. Yep. I think it would be most correct if you present 1872 01:49:26,223 --> 01:49:30,556 them. OK, I think you're stand up, send them to the council. Yeah. Do you guys want to? Yeah. All right. No, that is that is a 1873 01:49:30,556 --> 01:49:34,889 very good. 1874 01:49:35,250 --> 01:49:36,970 Do you want to start with 7? 1875 01:49:37,210 --> 01:49:42,290 So let's start with legal counsel. So I present to the Council, Jesse. 1876 01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:44,660 Get this name right. 1877 01:49:44,850 --> 01:49:45,930 Jesse Riddle. 1878 01:49:46,770 --> 01:49:48,410 To serve as our. 1879 01:49:48,650 --> 01:49:50,010 City Attorney. 1880 01:49:52,780 --> 01:49:57,620 I does anyone want to say do we motion that or does he just? 1881 01:49:57,690 --> 01:49:59,490 Present them as an appointment and we vote. 1882 01:50:06,060 --> 01:50:08,220 I make a motion to approve. 1883 01:50:08,770 --> 01:50:10,250 The appointment of legal. 1884 01:50:10,610 --> 01:50:11,610 City Attorney. 1885 01:50:11,730 --> 01:50:12,610 Jesse Riddle. 1886 01:50:13,630 --> 01:50:15,780 OK. Do we have a second for that second? 1887 01:50:15,890 --> 01:50:19,890 OK, let's do a roll call on this one, Jacob Wood. 1888 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,300 Aye, Parker. 1889 01:50:23,570 --> 01:50:24,930 I Jake Holdaway, aye. 1890 01:50:26,490 --> 01:50:27,210 David Lurie. 1891 01:50:27,690 --> 01:50:28,930 I and Ezra. 1892 01:50:29,370 --> 01:50:30,370 No, OK. 1893 01:50:31,330 --> 01:50:32,650 Motion passes. 1894 01:50:33,330 --> 01:50:37,090 All righty. Next we have Evan Smith. I present Evan Smith. 1895 01:50:38,130 --> 01:50:41,930 To serve as our City Finance Director. 1896 01:50:43,150 --> 01:50:44,860 Do I can I get a motion on that? 1897 01:50:46,090 --> 01:50:47,810 So moved OK. 1898 01:50:48,330 --> 01:50:54,010 Do I have a second? Do we need to specify Aye, Tony, or can he say so? Moved. OK, All right. 1899 01:50:54,330 --> 01:50:57,220 Let's do roll call on this one as well. We'll start with Ezra this time. Ezra. 1900 01:50:57,410 --> 01:50:58,930 Aye, David. 1901 01:50:59,690 --> 01:51:00,290 Jacob Aye. 1902 01:51:00,970 --> 01:51:01,890 Jacob. 1903 01:51:02,170 --> 01:51:06,850 Right. OK, There was a point of clarification that we never made. 1904 01:51:06,930 --> 01:51:11,690 Jacob refers to Jacob Wood. Yes, Jake is Jake Holder. That is correct. We voted for that. Thank you for changing my name. The 1905 01:51:11,690 --> 01:51:16,450 Giver to me by my mother. Awesome. 1906 01:51:16,930 --> 01:51:19,570 OK, Motion. 1907 01:51:19,970 --> 01:51:20,890 Carries. 1908 01:51:21,730 --> 01:51:24,170 Last, I present Robin. 1909 01:51:25,740 --> 01:51:27,700 Rainey's bond. How do I is it Raines? 1910 01:51:27,770 --> 01:51:30,570 Rings. Sorry I went to Orem high. 1911 01:51:31,050 --> 01:51:32,210 Not Mountain View, OK. 1912 01:51:33,850 --> 01:51:36,210 So, Robin Bond, that's hard. 1913 01:51:36,530 --> 01:51:38,210 Do you go by Rains Vaughn the whole time? 1914 01:51:39,210 --> 01:51:41,610 I'm usually from funds Robin bond OK, I. 1915 01:51:43,210 --> 01:51:44,850 Present Robin Bond. 1916 01:51:44,970 --> 01:51:47,530 To serve as our city recorder. 1917 01:51:47,890 --> 01:51:48,850 Do I have a second? 1918 01:51:49,170 --> 01:51:50,650 Some, yeah. 1919 01:51:51,130 --> 01:51:53,170 I'll second that motion. OK, awesome. 1920 01:51:54,490 --> 01:51:56,490 OK, awesome. 1921 01:51:57,130 --> 01:52:00,370 Let's do roll call as well. So let's start with Parker I. 1922 01:52:00,890 --> 01:52:02,050 Jake I. 1923 01:52:02,690 --> 01:52:03,290 Jacob. 1924 01:52:04,710 --> 01:52:06,140 Aye, David. 1925 01:52:06,250 --> 01:52:07,810 I and Ezra I. 1926 01:52:08,130 --> 01:52:09,900 OK, motion passes. 1927 01:52:10,490 --> 01:52:11,100 Awesome. 1928 01:52:11,930 --> 01:52:15,250 Now we got this. Do we do the swearing in? 1929 01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,980 Do we adjourn and do the swearing in or do we do? 1930 01:52:19,090 --> 01:52:20,490 Swearing in then adjourn. 1931 01:52:20,570 --> 01:52:23,210 Swear in first. That's what I thought. OK. 1932 01:52:23,450 --> 01:52:26,890 All righty, let's swear everybody in Jesse is not here tonight. 1933 01:52:27,930 --> 01:52:28,850 But we. 1934 01:52:29,900 --> 01:52:33,060 I assume we need to have OK, he's he can do. 1935 01:52:33,130 --> 01:52:34,530 All right, sounds good. 1936 01:52:35,290 --> 01:52:36,370 All right, so. 1937 01:52:37,650 --> 01:52:39,490 Can you do it online? Let's do Robin. 1938 01:52:40,010 --> 01:52:43,255 Bring his picture up, maybe. Yeah, right. Do we stand up by the thing? Yeah. Come on down. Let's. Do you have something you 1939 01:52:43,255 --> 01:52:46,500 actually say? 1940 01:52:48,170 --> 01:52:53,890 OK, we'll do Jesse when he is available in person. Sounds good. We'll do Jesse's when he's available in person. 1941 01:52:54,010 --> 01:52:54,810 OK, Robin. 1942 01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:56,550 Let's do this. 1943 01:52:57,330 --> 01:52:59,850 Stand up there by the front, front and center at the mic. 1944 01:53:00,890 --> 01:53:03,170 So do I do this or who does this? 1945 01:53:05,690 --> 01:53:07,170 Tony does it. Hey, All right. 1946 01:53:07,810 --> 01:53:08,850 Don't mess it up. 1947 01:53:09,890 --> 01:53:14,450 You need to read that, why don't you? 1948 01:53:15,530 --> 01:53:17,650 The water pressure, Tony. Oh. 1949 01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:27,480 All right. 1950 01:53:28,580 --> 01:53:29,340 Here we go. 1951 01:53:29,890 --> 01:53:32,370 Stick it in. I'm Robin Reece one. 1952 01:53:32,850 --> 01:53:35,090 Having been appointed as the city recorder. 1953 01:53:37,780 --> 01:53:38,580 Do you solemnly swear? 1954 01:53:40,650 --> 01:53:41,410 But I will support obey. 1955 01:53:41,770 --> 01:53:43,290 But I will support obey. 1956 01:53:45,930 --> 01:53:46,410 Constitution. 1957 01:53:48,170 --> 01:53:49,330 And the constitution of the State. 1958 01:53:52,950 --> 01:53:53,550 Discharge. 1959 01:53:56,050 --> 01:53:57,650 Discharge the duties of my office with fidelity. 1960 01:53:57,850 --> 01:53:58,970 The duties of my office. 1961 01:54:09,180 --> 01:54:10,420 All right, next. 1962 01:54:11,210 --> 01:54:11,610 Evan Smith. 1963 01:54:12,890 --> 01:54:13,650 Come on down, Evan. 1964 01:54:18,330 --> 01:54:18,610 Yes. 1965 01:54:25,740 --> 01:54:27,060 Robin is at Bo India. 1966 01:54:27,970 --> 01:54:28,490 All right. 1967 01:54:32,930 --> 01:54:38,210 Having been appointed as the finance director. Having been appointed as the finance director, solemnly swear. 1968 01:54:38,970 --> 01:54:41,090 Psalms were but I will support the bank defend. 1969 01:54:42,050 --> 01:54:43,530 That will support, obey and. 1970 01:54:45,530 --> 01:54:46,570 The Constitution. 1971 01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:49,420 And the constitution of the state of. 1972 01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:53,040 Discharge. 1973 01:54:53,850 --> 01:54:56,410 Discharge the ease of my office with fidelity. 1974 01:54:56,890 --> 01:54:57,130 Duties. 1975 01:55:05,460 --> 01:55:06,660 And Jesse when he gets. 1976 01:55:07,250 --> 01:55:08,810 Better, yes. Everyone needs backers to say so. 1977 01:55:10,050 --> 01:55:10,570 OK, great. Yeah. 1978 01:55:12,210 --> 01:55:12,370 OK. 1979 01:55:21,250 --> 01:55:22,450 All righty guys. 1980 01:55:23,290 --> 01:55:24,850 With that, we will. 1981 01:55:25,530 --> 01:55:26,170 Adjourn. 1982 01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:29,760 Thank you. 1983 01:55:30,250 --> 01:55:32,770 Doesn't count if you don't hit the mallet. That's right.