[11:57] OK, it is March 10th, 2026. Welcome out everybody. I am Mayor Zach Stratton and I'd like to open up our our City Council meeting.
[12:05] We have one of our amazing residents, Daria is going to lead us in the.
[12:10] Say a prayer for us.
[12:14] Pledge of Allegiance? Yes, Sorry.
[12:16] Blank that for a second, so come on up.
[12:18] Thank you.
[12:19] Thank you for this opportunity. Sure.
[12:24] Our Father in heaven.
[12:26] We are grateful.
[12:28] For the opportunity.
[12:30] Together, together as residents and City Council and staff.
[12:35] The opportunity we have to help vineyards become the.
[12:39] The city that.
[12:42] Would be a wonderful place to live.
[12:45] That will encourage families and businesses to grow and live together in harmony.
[12:50] We're grateful for the efforts of this City Council.
[12:53] We pray that Thou will bless them in their efforts to.
[12:57] Make it a well run city.
[12:59] We're grateful for the staff too.
[13:01] That put so many hours into their efforts and also the volunteers that.
[13:07] Help out in this our city. We're grateful for all of them.
[13:10] We pray that.
[13:12] We will be continue to be civil and kind and all that we say in and all that we do.
[13:18] And these things we thank thee for. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
[13:22] Hey man, thank you.
[13:23] Please stand.
[13:30] I pledge allegiance to the flag.
[13:33] Of the United States of America.
[13:35] And to the Republic for which it stands.
[13:38] One nation under God.
[13:40] Indivisible.
[13:41] With liberty and justice for all.
[13:45] Thank you.
[13:46] And Daria.
[13:47] You get a pin, Prayers and pledges for pins. So.
[13:52] Thank you. Thank you.
[13:54] OK, we are.
[13:56] Let's do this. Is anybody here for public comment?
[14:00] We have a couple.
[14:01] OK, let's do that. Let's jump into public comment.
[14:04] And then we will go to.
[14:06] We'll do the closed door session after that so.
[14:09] Yes, please, whoever like to come first, come on down.
[14:19] State your name for the record.
[14:20] And, umm.
[14:22] Yeah, great.
[14:24] My name is Tyler Harrelson.
[14:26] I'm here to talk to you about 400 S.
[14:30] I'm sure you guys have.
[14:31] Heard a couple years ago.
[14:34] First there was a boy who was hit there 5th grader. It's right between the elementary school and the.
[14:38] The park, so a lot of.
[14:40] A lot of schoolchildren are passing across this road.
[14:43] 5th grader got hit.
[14:44] Practice goal.
[14:46] Was bleeding in three parts of his brain.
[14:49] Thankfully.
[14:50] Made it out.
[14:52] I don't know how OK he is, but he's alive.
[14:55] A year later, a 17 year old girl was running across and was hit and killed.
[15:02] I would like.
[15:02] The council? I asked this of the last council before the girl got hit.
[15:07] After the boy got hit.
[15:08] I was on the bike advisory Commission and I said hey.
[15:12] Like we should do something about this. This road is dangerous and we should do it now.
[15:16] Like if you had a construction zone, you want to keep your construction.
[15:19] Construction.
[15:21] You build sort of these temporary.
[15:23] Cones and barrels type of.
[15:25] Of barriers to keep them safe.
[15:27] And I was like, why don't we do that?
[15:29] So we can respond quickly.
[15:31] While we're working on a long term solution.
[15:33] That fell on deaf ears.
[15:35] And then Sienna got hit.
[15:37] And killed.
[15:38] And after that I.
[15:39] Came back to the council and said.
[15:41] We should do.
[15:42] As I said a year ago, we should.
[15:44] Do these cones and barrels and put up.
[15:46] Something safe?
[15:47] Immediately so someone doesn't get hit and killed again.
[15:51] And they basically told me.
[15:52] You know, it's a really sensitive time. Someone just died.
[15:55] So I came back several months later.
[15:57] After things had calmed down, said the same thing.
[16:01] Deaf ears.
[16:02] So I hope that you guys will listen more than the previous Council did.
[16:07] I think that.
[16:08] It's a little unorthodox to do this sort of thing, but I think it would be very beneficial. It's low cost.
[16:14] If you.
[16:15] Put up a design that.
[16:17] Doesn't work for all your needs.
[16:19] You can take it back down or rearrange it.
[16:21] Like the worst thing that you can get to is just.
[16:23] Taken down the cones and.
[16:25] Going back to what you're at right now.
[16:28] I think it's responsive to the needs of the local people. You can involve them into the decision. You can involve parents.
[16:33] So I would like you to do that.
[16:35] That's actually a really good idea, thanks.
[16:38] I have been a supporter of Tyler's and he if we could sit.
[16:42] And learn about it. I sent.
[16:45] I didn't send you, but I sent the other.
[16:47] Gentleman, that was with you that day.
[16:49] They're great. They bolt right into the road.
[16:51] And when citizens complain about the speed?
[16:53] They're really great.
[16:55] For slowing it down.
[16:57] Yeah, if we're going to build the road that we are on, 400 SI want them right on my house.
[17:01] Because they die fast.
[17:02] Yeah, that's my comment.
[17:04] Thank you.
[17:08] I might just add that we have.
[17:11] 1 intersection there by the by the.
[17:13] The West side of the school. This.
[17:16] Going to be rebuilt this coming.
[17:18] Season and so that'll help there a great deal and on the other side we're.
[17:22] Sierra, I'm at her end over there.
[17:25] We've been trying to, we've been starting to get in talks with that. It's been restricted already. That's already started to help.
[17:30] I think.
[17:31] And then we're.
[17:32] We have we're in talks to try to realign that.
[17:34] Intersection as well.
[17:36] Yeah. And that's great.
[17:39] It's just it takes so long and it can be very expensive and.
[17:42] I think it.
[17:43] You know, human errors a thing so.
[17:46] Maybe the new design won't do what you want. I think it'd be better to.
[17:50] Put it up in cones and barrels as much as you can. Obviously you can't realign an intersection with cones and barrels.
[17:55] But as much as you can to do it now, test it out now.
[17:58] And then put in the permanent.
[18:00] While you're working on the permanent solution.
[18:02] So thank you.
[18:04] Thank you, Sir.
[18:06] Julie, did you want?
[18:07] Or who? Who else? Who outside of? Yes, please come on up.
[18:10] OK, thanks.
[18:14] So I was just writing. Oh, sorry. Sherry K Miller, Holdaway Rd. member of the Arts Commission.
[18:19] OK, I'm.
[18:22] Trying to write down these things because I just found out tonight that there's going to be a discussion on the Arch Commission.
[18:28] The grant proposals.
[18:30] So I'm here as a citizen and a member of that. So I just want to give you a little bit of a heads up of what the process has been.
[18:37] So last fall.
[18:39] Oh sorry I'm out of breath. The the grants we had $20,000 that we as an arts Commission where?
[18:45] Designed to get proposals.
[18:48] And then decide and.
[18:52] Proportion out what we thought was the best for Vineyard City.
[18:55] OK, so that was done.
[18:57] We actually on January 15th met and we as members of the Commission.
[19:03] Were to score all of the proposals.
[19:06] Anyway, so on the 15th they showed that the proposals had been scored.
[19:12] And I don't remember all that. I was trying to look it up on the phone right now from Brian Vaudrey, but the Vineyard Heritage
[19:16] Commission had scored the highest as far as.
[19:20] In that initial discussion of what was.
[19:23] A good and needed thing for the for Vineyard and the proposal for Vineyard Heritage Foundation was.
[19:30] To prepare.
[19:31] 4th grade curriculum for the four schools. Elementary schools in Vineyard.
[19:36] I had previously before.
[19:38] Talked to principals and other people and had.
[19:41] A sense that it was.
[19:42] A desirable thing.
[19:43] Principals, teachers liked it anyway. OK.
[19:47] So we had the discussion.
[19:49] Proportions were made. It was that.
[19:50] The Heritage Foundation was to get 700.
[19:54] 57,500 and I.
[19:56] Don't have all the other amounts, It doesn't matter.
[19:59] Anyway, so.
[20:01] It was going to be voted on in the city. It didn't get voted on.
[20:04] We anyway they met again.
[20:07] I happen to be out of town. I've missed 2 meetings in the three years that I have been part of it. I missed this meeting.
[20:13] And I'm away with family on an event and I get this e-mail from Brian that says.
[20:17] Just want to let you know how they went.
[20:20] And it turned out that.
[20:21] Without great detail.
[20:23] The Heritage Commission ended up getting $0.00.
[20:26] So we went from having.
[20:29] The highest grading as far as the.
[20:32] This group.
[20:33] To 0.
[20:36] And then not even not.
[20:37] Even that.
[20:38] Was the fact that.
[20:40] They had decided that.
[20:41] Some of the money.
[20:43] Was going to be held over to go to the skate park that already had half $1,000,000 allocated for it that they weren't even going
[20:47] to give that to the Heritage Foundation.
[20:51] It was just going to be held over for another year and not used.
[20:54] For this project.
[20:56] And I was just like.
[20:57] I mean, it was a gut punch.
[20:59] And these were the reasons that they gave.
[21:01] The teachers may not want to teach it.
[21:03] Right. How? Whatever.
[21:04] How are you going to do it?
[21:06] Blah blah blah blah.
[21:07] And.
[21:08] That one of them was.
[21:10] And the money that the Heritage Foundation got for the sign for the Geneva ladle, they haven't spent the money yet.
[21:16] So I just want to.
[21:17] Just to let people know.
[21:20] That after we had the initial grant that we thought we were going to get for Seven 500, I had already contacted Ben Johnson, who
[21:24] is the history.
[21:29] Education and history professor at University of Utah.
[21:32] We were already.
[21:33] Having.
[21:34] He had contacted principals that he knew and and teachers and we were already in the process of doing this.
[21:41] And then we find out.
[21:42] We get $0.00.
[21:43] So that discounts the fact that and I won't mention names.
[21:47] That they were saying they wouldn't like it, blah blah blah blah.
[21:51] And that.
[21:52] Principals wouldn't be interested.
[21:54] And then?
[21:55] The last thing, just for what it's worth.
[21:57] We've worked really hard for this sign that's going to be up in front of the ladle and it's going to be amazing.
[22:03] We had 7.
[22:05] 7 estimates.
[22:07] Refining Design.
[22:08] Blah, blah, blah. It's already under contract. It's going to be up and wonderful so.
[22:12] It was just a gut punch.
[22:14] I'm just letting you know that that is.
[22:16] What happened? And the only thing I want to say is you can decide if you think that this is right or the process worked
[22:20] efficiently.
[22:24] Thank you so much. One clarifying question, Sherry Kay.
[22:27] We have a question too for you. That's all right way fast.
[22:32] You want to go first. The ladle you're referring to, is that the one over there by the forge? Kind of, yes. And I have pictures. I
[22:37] can show you what it's going to look like if you go ahead. So the previous proposal for how that grant money was going to be spent
[22:41] was actually given to the council back in January.
[22:46] We had it on an agenda item to review and when.
[22:49] It came up to be.
[22:51] Discussed.
[22:52] Parks and Rec asked us to not discuss it yet then. And do you know why that is? I actually emailed Brian Vaudrey and I said Brian
[22:56] question.
[23:00] Oh, I'm sorry.
[23:01] He had.
[23:02] To set in that meeting.
[23:06] That there was still time.
[23:08] Before the grant needed to be finalized and they were looking at, you know, some reallocation of a couple things, specifically the
[23:11] skate park money.
[23:14] Was what he had said in that that meeting.
[23:16] Do you know of other factors that maybe influence that delay? Well, you know what I got in, I got the e-mail saying that it's
[23:20] going to be discussed tonight and I said, Brian.
[23:25] We we didn't finalize this.
[23:27] I said.
[23:28] My question was.
[23:29] We don't. We haven't talked to the city about liability.
[23:32] We haven't talked about these things. It wasn't decided on in the Arts Commission.
[23:37] As a whole.
[23:38] I mean.
[23:39] And I hadn't missed any meetings.
[23:41] So he said.
[23:42] You're right, whatever. And so it got postponed and I'm not trying to take credit for it, but.
[23:46] It just hasn't run very.
[23:49] Smooth, efficiently communication.
[23:53] Whatever, I would also just be curious into looking into why the.
[23:57] They took away that chunk of money from the Arts Commission, if I recall correctly, and I take pretty.
[24:02] Not from the Arts Commission, the foundation. Oh, my apologies. That's great.
[24:07] That all of us were kind of in agreeance that that was a good.
[24:10] Good allocation of those funds because it allowed, you know, for support when we do events and volunteerism and things like that.
[24:17] Yeah, so I.
[24:19] Well, and like I said that when Brian sent me that e-mail and then this is what the members of the Arts Commission had said, that
[24:23] why they had taken it to 0.
[24:27] Principals aren't interested teachers. Whatever. We can have a book in the library. I mean, it was just like.
[24:32] You know what I mean? It was like.
[24:34] We already had.
[24:36] All of those things were already.
[24:38] Locked and loaded.
[24:39] Yeah, OK.
[24:40] You're awesome. Thank you so much. Sorry. Thank you.
[24:43] Awesome. All right. Anybody else?
[24:45] Yes, come on down.
[24:55] Sorry, while you're coming up, Sherry, are you planning to stick around for the agenda item as well?
[25:00] I figured I'd just hold my questions till then.
[25:03] In town, so I would.
[25:06] So I could.
[25:08] When is it in another?
[25:10] Could we maybe just move that one up so we can?
[25:12] Yeah, have her input. I do have some more questions.
[25:15] For sure.
[25:16] I'm Darlene Price, I live in the Villas, and I want to say first of all, kudos for whoever painted the bike lane in the crosswalk
[25:22] screen that are over by Bella's restaurant Bella's.
[25:28] Shopping thing and they really stand out.
[25:31] And I was.
[25:33] Wondering if it was?
[25:35] If that was something that they were required to do or is it something that we can do with our bike lanes that we have on venue
[25:39] on?
[25:43] Vineyard Rd.
[25:46] They get lost the second you turn the corner.
[25:49] And you're driving in a bike lane.
[25:51] And and I found myself doing that more than once.
[25:55] I am concerned about still.
[25:59] The the Sheriff's Department and.
[26:02] What are the? What are the rules for?
[26:06] Now that we've moved into motor scooters.
[26:09] That are small. That little kids are writing.
[26:14] I about hit this kid coming out of.
[26:17] Hold away.
[26:19] Road add on to is it Vineyard?
[26:22] That intersection where the basketball court is.
[26:25] OK, so he was coming.
[26:27] Out of there. And he didn't even stop.
[26:30] He just went straight out into the road, so I slammed on my brakes and he looked at me like, what are you doing? And then he went
[26:35] over the other side and the person coming the other way about hit him.
[26:41] And he was like maybe six or seven years old.
[26:44] And he probably didn't hit the flashing lights either, right?
[26:47] Probably would be my guess.
[26:48] That you know what The cars. The cars don't stop for that either.
[26:52] So I just think there needs to be some education.
[26:56] Especially with the kids, especially those motorized bikes.
[27:00] The Street.
[27:02] If we painted the lanes green.
[27:06] You say you have to drive in the Green Lane.
[27:08] Yeah, this is my thought. I appreciate it. Thank you. Especially right now when it's starting to warm up and everyone's getting
[27:10] out so.
[27:12] David Carlos.
[27:13] Get with communications, we talked about that, just doing some education posts and pushing that out there with withholding. Are
[27:17] there are there rules for that? Are there laws for that?
[27:23] Yeah, please go ahead, Holden. That'd be so the state legislature we were we I'd been asked to look into updating our ordinances
[27:27] regarding the motorized.
[27:31] Or electric scooters, electric bikes, all the.
[27:33] All the electric things.
[27:35] But the state and what the legislative session, they had a couple, they had a bill regarding that and I'm waiting to see how that
[27:38] turned out before we.
[27:41] Draft our ordinance to make sure we don't conflict with the state. Well, I think we went from skateboards to motorized all of a
[27:46] sudden and we weren't ready for that. There definitely are a lot of them, but yeah, we are working on that.
[27:51] Yeah. OK. Thank you.
[27:53] You're awesome.
[27:54] OK.
[27:56] Yeah, please. Come on up, Sir.
[27:58] State your name, Ryan Francis. I live in the gardens.
[28:01] Excuse me, ignorance haven't been one of these. There's an agenda item about parking and occupancy if I comment now or do I do it
[28:05] when you do that?
[28:09] The comment now that'd be great. OK then we'll probably take as we're talking about, we'll ask you.
[28:13] OK, great. I've lived here for 10 years in the gardens and we just have a.
[28:17] Two houses. Actually, three houses.
[28:20] That are over renting. They have a renter upstairs and renter downstairs that are not.
[28:23] They're not they're and they're not living in the primary residence.
[28:27] It creates a huge problem for us just with parking. Kind of what really spurred me to be like really adamant about this is my
[28:32] daughter almost got hit by a car. She was crossing the street to her neighbor's house. They had like.
[28:36] 5 or 6 cars because they have so many occupants.
[28:39] And they came around a long corner and.
[28:41] Luckily she didn't get hit. It was really close and.
[28:44] We reported this like, I don't know, 5 or 6 times.
[28:48] We've even had.
[28:50] Cash over to my house. We had a big discussion and everything as a neighborhood.
[28:54] It feels to me a little bit like it falls on deaf ears.
[28:56] And or there's a lot of loopholes that allow them to keep doing what they're doing, like.
[29:00] One of the renters tried to have the 2.
[29:02] Groups enter an LLC together and become owner of the house so they can be in the house.
[29:08] And then he had him sign as his roommates and it's just kind of a mess and.
[29:13] It's just something that.
[29:15] I mean, I, I'm very active in this community is like park and recs. I coach a lot of teams. I really love Vineyard, but it is a
[29:19] driving force to make us leave the community because.
[29:24] It's such a problem and.
[29:25] We reported.
[29:27] The corner house even and recently because they.
[29:30] They've moved people out, So what they'll do is they'll get reported, they'll move out people in the basement, and then a month
[29:33] later they'll just move more people in.
[29:36] And uh.
[29:38] He came to my house and got confronted my wife about reporting them and was told that the city.
[29:43] Gave her name to him, the owner of the house. So he knocked on my door.
[29:47] And said, why are you reporting? Why are you harassing my people and.
[29:50] Had a like got really upset with my wife which I'm not really happy about either so.
[29:55] It's just frustrating because, and I am here because I just want to applaud like.
[30:00] Ezra Nair and Jacob Wood because I feel like there is some traction being talked about with things.
[30:05] It's just something that is.
[30:07] I feel really passionate about and even my next door neighbor.
[30:10] They just moved in. They just built an AUD.
[30:13] Or whatever ado you or whatever it is.
[30:17] And.
[30:18] They he just put us on in his garage.
[30:21] And has two cars in his driveway.
[30:23] Has his two renters on the street and has two company cars on the street as well. So now he has.
[30:29] 5.
[30:31] I mean, his five vehicles on the street and our roads just aren't built for it and.
[30:35] You know, we just moved your sister into our neighborhood.
[30:37] Probably the nicest person I've ever met my whole life, by the way.
[30:40] And and.
[30:43] That you will talk to her and I'm sure she'll mention that there's a gentleman next door. Where do you live? I live in just like.
[30:48] There's an elbow near her so I just live over there, but OK.
[30:51] Anyway, I really mean that. She's so nice, but you'll probably talk to her and there's someone who.
[30:55] Parks a huge boat in that neighborhood and just moves it around and yeah, there's just some things that happen that I, I really
[30:59] applaud that this is happening. So I just am here to voice my support of that and.
[31:04] Would appreciate if.
[31:06] So we could have some kind of change.
[31:08] Yeah. Thank you for the time.
[31:09] I I hear about the over occupancy issue probably every day. I have a similar situation. My next door so my wife we're aligned so
[31:13] we're.
[31:17] Do what we can.
[31:19] Anybody else?
[31:20] Before.
[31:21] OK, you don't have.
[31:24] Reports on the agenda. Can I share on that real quick? Yeah, go ahead.
[31:27] Go ahead. So a couple weeks ago.
[31:30] For the people who had been following along with City Council.
[31:34] We had a lot of.
[31:35] Outreach. Uh.
[31:36] From uh.
[31:38] Le Cheminant and the surrounding neighborhoods over there.
[31:42] To get a better understanding of what that looked like.
[31:45] I made it a point to go drive.
[31:48] Through that neighborhood between 8:00 and 10:00 PM.
[31:51] A couple nights.
[31:52] Two weeks ago.
[31:53] And I was.
[31:56] Really surprised at how bad the problem actually was.
[32:01] I counted 5 stop signs.
[32:03] That were completely and totally blocked.
[32:06] There were houses that had cars hanging off of.
[32:09] Sidewalks, I mean, just.
[32:12] There were houses that had, you know.
[32:14] Full driveways.
[32:15] And both sides of the street and both sides of the house, I mean, just completely blocked. So visibility was poor. There were cars
[32:21] that were parked on red, red curbs. I mean, the whole kitten caboodle blocked fire hydrants.
[32:27] I reached out to.
[32:29] Chief Deputy Holden.
[32:30] That evening and just asked.
[32:33] You know, would you, when you have the available manpower send somebody to just go patrol that because I think a little bit of
[32:36] enforcement when it comes to.
[32:39] Blocking the stop sign, blocking the fire hydrants.
[32:43] A little bit of enforcement probably goes a long way to deterring that.
[32:47] I did also note in some of those neighborhoods there's.
[32:50] Areas where there aren't.
[32:51] Any cars parked?
[32:53] Which means that people are just parking in those.
[32:56] Unsafe positions largely for their own convenience. At least that's what that signals to me.
[33:00] As opposed to parking down the road and walking to their house.
[33:03] So I think a little bit of enforcement goes a long way. I'd like to, you know, request that when there's that availability we
[33:06] keep.
[33:09] Looking at how to alleviate that that safety issue just by sending somebody over and.
[33:13] Writing a ticket when it's obviously an illegal park.
[33:15] Yeah, OK. Thank you, Sir.
[33:18] OK, Holden wants to say something. Holden to follow up. Oh, please go ahead and your request.
[33:22] I think we've written 10 citations in that neighborhood since your call.
[33:26] Towed some vehicles and stickered a whole bunch of vehicles as well. OK appreciate that. Go Team USA.
[33:32] Go team Sheriffs.
[33:34] OK, all righty.
[33:36] With that, yeah, Sir, please come on down.
[33:39] So my name is Mike Lamont. I'm the CEO of Utah Parking Authority. I was just coming to watch today, but this kind of spurred some.
[33:48] Some thoughts that I thought I'd bring up.
[33:51] I think there's a lot of miscommunication that's going on with parking enforcement right now and the needs I've been watching the
[33:55] last couple weeks.
[33:59] Your proceedings online and it seems like there are a lot of residents. We, we are the contracted company for your public streets.
[34:07] Right now.
[34:08] In Vineyard and.
[34:10] I just think there's a lot of miscommunication and and.
[34:14] Stuff around parking enforcement right now and.
[34:17] You know the use of.
[34:18] Predatory parking.
[34:20] Enforcement is being thrown around.
[34:23] You can really see.
[34:25] The needs of the of the city for some type of enforcement and.
[34:31] You know in.
[34:33] In general, kind of the way that.
[34:35] Parking goes.
[34:36] There's either the.
[34:37] The city or the private property owner, Which?
[34:41] It appears have the same needs. You know that whether it's a private road or a public St. you know they have the same needs.
[34:45] There's over occupancy, there's way too many cars on the road.
[34:49] And.
[34:50] So it's it's an issue that we've been dealing with for a while.
[34:54] But more specifically.
[34:57] On the public roads.
[34:59] 300 W for example, you know you guys, you guys decided to not require a permit there anymore.
[35:05] But when that was initially rolled out, it was rolled out in a way that.
[35:10] There were months of notifications. There were.
[35:13] 25.
[35:15] Courtesy signs put all along the road saying.
[35:18] A permit for the public Rd. was was necessary.
[35:22] We put all our signs at all the entrances to those roads saying that you will be towed if you don't have a permit.
[35:28] You know, and then.
[35:30] We have a member of the City Council that goes on to KSL News and says.
[35:35] Over 200 cars were booted every every car on the road. Over 200 cars were booted in a night.
[35:40] Which is.
[35:41] Absolutely not true.
[35:43] There were never more than 10 cars booted.
[35:46] Sounds like kind of the same type of issue that's going on in other communities, but.
[35:52] You know, I just want to make myself available to the Council.
[35:56] We take very detailed records of every enforcement that we do.
[36:00] There is never a time that we're going to enforce something that you haven't specifically asked for. So if you ask us to go at
[36:04] 1:15 AM to 5:00 AM.
[36:09] Boot cars on this public Rd. that don't have a permit.
[36:13] That's what we're going to do and so to be.
[36:17] Cast as.
[36:18] Predatory in that way when we're.
[36:21] Not only limiting enforcement, but doing exactly what?
[36:24] We've been contracted to do, you know, it's a little bit frustrating and.
[36:27] And you know, we, we are.
[36:30] Here to serve the Vineyard community, whether it be.
[36:33] On the public streets or the private streets, which like I said, have the same.
[36:38] Issues going on right now in Vineyard City, but.
[36:41] But uh.
[36:42] With that being said, if there is ever a dispute or a complaint.
[36:45] On parking enforcement matter.
[36:48] At any point you guys can call my office.
[36:51] Text my cell phone.
[36:53] Holden has my cell phone number.
[36:55] You guys can text me and say hey, I've got a dispute on this. Someone's claiming to have been.
[36:59] Sitting in their car when they got booted.
[37:02] We can pull all the enforcement records for it, all the detailed time stamped pictures, videos, everything that we take.
[37:09] License plate recognition reads everything and.
[37:13] Send it over to you so you have access to all of that information.
[37:16] At all times, so there should never be a dispute where you can't.
[37:20] Ask for information on it.
[37:22] We're always there. So thank you, Sir. Thank you. Appreciate that. Could I ask a question though?
[37:26] So if you if you boot a car and so forth, what what's?
[37:30] What was the cost to the person who's been booted to get the?
[37:33] And to both, yeah. So what's the cost for both?
[37:37] OK, so.
[37:39] Those prices are set by the state back in 2011.
[37:44] The state set the boot fee at $75. It's been that way ever since. So right now it's $75.00 to get a boot off.
[37:52] And then?
[37:53] If the boot stays on for more than 24 hours, which we usually.
[37:56] Tow it in to recover the equipment, but if it does stay on for over 24 hours, you can charge an additional $25 a day.
[38:03] For up to three days.
[38:05] In storage fees.
[38:07] And so.
[38:09] For an impound.
[38:11] First day impound if they come during business hours.
[38:14] It's I believe it's.
[38:18] Did I just send that over to you?
[38:19] I think it was, I think it's like 312.
[38:21] Or something.
[38:22] They're an 812 dollars, yeah. And then it's.
[38:25] $25 or it's $42.00 a day in storage.
[38:31] What was the toffee? Sorry, 312 I believe.
[38:35] Yeah, it fluctuates a little bit with.
[38:37] Fuel prices.
[38:39] Awesome.
[38:40] OK, Alrighty. Thank you.
[38:43] With that, we're going to close public comment.
[38:46] And I let's move into the closed session.
[38:50] Before we jump into that, just.
[38:52] To be as transparent as possible and share the information.
[38:55] The intent behind the closed session is to.
[38:58] Review personnel matters. We're looking at hiring.
[39:03] Staffing positions in the city and just are discussing that.
[39:07] Yes, very good.
[39:08] So on those lines in the future, can we?
[39:11] Since we're now just posting when we need it, can we actually post the?
[39:15] Reason one reason instead of just listening all of them.
[39:17] Can we put that into the notes?
[39:19] Yeah, Yeah. That'd be great. Yeah. That's a great call. Thank you, guys.
[39:22] OK, so can I'll take a motion.
[39:24] On this item.
[39:27] I make a motion to move into closed session.
[39:33] On March 10th at.
[39:35] 6:28 PM.
[39:37] Here in the Council meeting.
[39:38] And then the reason to.
[39:39] Oh, the reason is.
[39:41] Two in the green there a discuss.
[39:45] The character professional competency in physical mental health. And no, it's not. It's collective bargaining, right?
[39:50] No, no, it's a day.
[39:53] OK.
[39:57] Do I have a second?
[40:00] Come on.
[40:03] I think you pretty much covered the whole thing is that.
[40:05] Yeah, I couldn't hear everything through the mic, but I'll second. That's fine.
[40:10] Second, by Councilman, there is that a second answer?
[40:12] OK. All right.
[40:14] Let's do this, or by roll call. We'll start here on my left.
[40:16] Parker, hi.
[40:17] Jake I.
[40:19] David.
[40:19] I and Ezra.
[40:22] Motion passes.
[40:23] All right, we will be.
[40:24] Right back.
[40:33] Thank you.
[40:41] Yeah, let's just do that, are we? We locked and loaded. Okay, awesome.
[40:45] All right, I would.
[40:47] We are gonna.
[40:49] If I could get a motion, we are going to.
[40:52] Leave the public or sorry, the.
[40:54] Closed meeting.
[40:57] I'll make that motion.
[40:59] I second it.
[41:00] All in favor.
[41:01] I think we have to vote. Is that roll call as well?
[41:03] To leave the.
[41:05] OK, sounds good, Councilman Cumber. Aye.
[41:07] Jacob all the way I.
[41:10] I'm not sure we're voting on.
[41:11] Coming out of closed session.
[41:13] Closed session hi.
[41:15] Councilman era I.
[41:16] Awesome. Thank you. Motion passes.
[41:19] Alrighty, we're going to jump into the work session. We've got 3.1.
[41:23] The Public Safety Impact Fee facilities Plan and impact fee analysis. I'm going to turn the time to Councilman Holdaway.
[41:30] To lead this discussion.
[41:32] Had the opportunity to go and and go on a tour with our excellent fire department and staff and they're incredible. We spent a
[41:35] couple hours.
[41:40] Going over our.
[41:42] Fire safety plan for our wetlands and helping them understand a lot of different things and the topic came up about the public
[41:45] safety impact fee.
[41:49] I want to thank Karen Cornelius for.
[41:51] Talking about this for many years and bringing this to the attention of how important it is to make sure those are updated.
[41:58] And that they are.
[42:00] A fraction and an update to to the plans that we're going to be having in vineyards so.
[42:06] The work session is just to talk about. You guys have any issues?
[42:09] With the mayor.
[42:11] Reaching out to.
[42:13] The sheriff and also to the fire department.
[42:16] To look into.
[42:19] Reevaluating and updating our public safety impact fees.
[42:23] For facilities and the plan and the impact.
[42:26] The analysis.
[42:27] And it's been years since that has been updated.
[42:32] Thanks, Jake.
[42:34] Can I ask a?
[42:35] Question SO.
[42:37] As I'm trying to get a grasp on.
[42:40] Impact fees.
[42:41] I've and I recognize decisions.
[42:44] Should not be made in a vacuum and we need to look at the holistic thing and as we try to get a hand on the budget, it's very
[42:48] important that we get the impact fees right.
[42:52] To help us not have to pull money from what those should be covering to cover other things, right? We just end up with a bigger
[42:55] deficit that way.
[42:59] I'm under the impression right now and maybe city staff and.
[43:04] Our fire department representative can help.
[43:08] I'm under the impression that.
[43:10] Larger buildings, such as the ones being developed in Utah City.
[43:14] Necessarily require different public safety infrastructure. Higher ladders, bigger.
[43:20] Equipment and utility.
[43:21] Things. I don't know what all those are because I'm not a firefighter. I apologize.
[43:26] But I'm under the impression that we're not.
[43:28] Currently charging impact fees that are adequate to cover those expenses or costs for our.
[43:34] Public safety departments like the fire department.
[43:36] Is that accurate?
[43:38] We do not currently charge any public safety impact fee in the city.
[43:41] Yeah.
[43:43] Correct. Residential commercial. We do not charge a public safety impact fee.
[43:47] Right. So because of that, that leaves U.S. Open and massive gap.
[43:53] And so by.
[43:55] Putting this in, we can make sure that this doesn't come out of the general fund or other.
[44:00] Tax revenues.
[44:01] And make sure that.
[44:03] The facilities.
[44:04] Built in the future are off of those impact fees.
[44:08] I can also give some brief background here, very brief. About probably 6 months ago, we, we directed our planner, Rachel to do the
[44:11] study.
[44:15] Rather than contract that out and so she's been working on that, We have an excellent draft study that is required in order to do
[44:19] an impact fee analysis.
[44:23] So she worked really closely with our Sheriff's Department with Orem Fire to gather kind of all the future demands that we're
[44:28] going to need. So it goes into details of what type of fire apparatus do we need.
[44:32] For Utah City, or whatever it may be.
[44:35] And then it gives us essentially a.
[44:37] An outline of what these expenses are going to be, when we're going to need them.
[44:41] And now that we have that study done, we, we need to present to the council for adoption. Once that's happened, we can then work
[44:47] on doing this impact fee analysis, which we've gotten 2 bids from that, that we have what we'll probably bring back maybe next
[44:52] week or the following week to, to enter into a contract with so that they can take that study and they can.
[44:59] Actually get us the numbers of.
[45:01] For every new residential building that comes online, they need to pay X amount per unit.
[45:04] For every commercial X amount per square footage.
[45:07] And then we can start collecting that impact fee.
[45:10] Awesome.
[45:11] So just the thing on the work session is just.
[45:14] I think this is a top priority in terms of our budget constraints and issues, so.
[45:19] And I do believe that the the.
[45:22] Financial Group that we staff is recommending is just below $15,000 to conduct the study.
[45:28] And is 50 yeah, I think 14,700 or something like that and.
[45:33] The the.
[45:34] The other thing is just make sure.
[45:37] Working in conjunction with Holden and.
[45:39] And yeah, they.
[45:41] All of us have been working really well together on this project so far so.
[45:44] OK. Yeah. Well, I guess in next week, would you like it on the agenda to?
[45:49] For the ability for the mayor to enter into this contract.
[45:52] Next council meeting, so two weeks.
[45:54] Yeah, 2 weeks.
[45:56] Councilman, if we could still have the information at the work session next Tuesday, I'd appreciate it, just so that we can.
[46:01] Review, do you want to see the study or do you want to see like the contract? What, what would you want to see? I'd like to see
[46:04] the study and you can just e-mail me that I can send it out.
[46:08] Put that on the work session agenda so that it's if there's something to be brought up about it, we want to have discussion, we
[46:12] want to seek more information. We can cover that.
[46:16] Yeah, we can. I can definitely all send that up tomorrow. We do have the contracts on this agenda. So we're good there.
[46:21] Study. Yes. OK. Do you want to see this person?
[46:24] Thank you.
[46:26] Anybody else OK?
[46:27] Already. Let's jump to 3.2 parking enforcement discussion. I'm going to turn the time to Councilman there. Yes, I promise I'll be
[46:31] quick on this.
[46:35] So, umm.
[46:36] I live in a neighborhood that has some some parking issues. I'm actually.
[46:39] On a private street, but there's adjacent neighborhoods that have public streets and, and one of the kind of low hanging fruits we
[46:45] were trying to solve just as neighbors and, and, and people looking at this is how can we address this over occupancy in a way
[46:51] that that can, can be immediate without necessarily building up the code enforcement capacity.
[46:56] One way we found to do that is, is through parking enforcement and so came up with just like a general.
[47:01] Plan that hoping to to.
[47:03] Adopt A program that has worked in other areas and.
[47:07] Could be good for.
[47:09] For cities to basically opt into this baseline program.
[47:13] That would kind of get all the low hanging fruit and then each city or each neighborhood could.
[47:17] Kind of work and see what would work best for their community.
[47:20] But umm.
[47:21] What we've kind of come up with is that.
[47:23] We would contract with University Parking Authority.
[47:26] Have the app where you can request digital passes every household.
[47:30] Would be eligible for one automatic overnight parking pass.
[47:34] Through the app you could easily switch which car has that digital pass. You just put all your cars in the app.
[47:39] You can move so every every home.
[47:41] Would get one overnight pass.
[47:43] Now.
[47:44] There's another thing that we'd like to kind of look at is that homes would be able to.
[47:48] Request an additional pass if their owner occupied non rental units.
[47:52] Or if they're on a.
[47:54] Owner occupied rental units, if they have a business license, which means they've already gone through the city to add the extra
[47:58] parking space, they've already kind of fulfilled their end of the bargain for for parking requirements and that would help give
[48:02] the city a little bit of oversight into.
[48:06] To how those are going and making sure that those households that have, you know, 678 people living there and all parked on the
[48:09] street.
[48:13] Wouldn't be happening.
[48:16] Additionally, homeowners could request a temporary pass.
[48:20] We could do that for like up to a month at a time or a couple weeks, whatever.
[48:24] I wouldn't seek your guys's input as well and talking with community as well.
[48:27] We'd keep those overnight enforcement hours to 1:00 AM to 5:00 AM.
[48:31] So it's just this overnight enforcement.
[48:33] Which would.
[48:34] Allow a lot of the residents more visitor parking during the day as well.
[48:38] And then?
[48:40] Basically that was it. I would think the shaman. I've talked to people in the shaman on Bridgeport.
[48:45] Westbrook.
[48:46] Cottonwoods.
[48:48] And.
[48:49] Few others as well.
[48:50] The Gardens.
[48:52] There was one other ones.
[48:54] But anyway, it covered like 80% of the public St. and neighborhood streets.
[48:59] That are experiencing these issues and would see a lot of benefits in this process. So there's just a couple like considerations
[49:03] I'd love the council to think about as we.
[49:07] Kind of work through this.
[49:09] There is like a $20 annual fee for each pass.
[49:13] For for the app.
[49:14] That either the city could pick up so we could say.
[49:16] Homeowners get it free, we recognize.
[49:19] The city would take this on.
[49:20] Because of the.
[49:22] Like it lowers the demand form for city.
[49:24] And sorry, my voice was shot from the Texas Tech game.
[49:28] It lowers the demand from.
[49:30] City services to have.
[49:32] These parking issues address there's there's safer streets, there's less burden on the city resources. And so that might be worth
[49:37] the city just picking that up or we could we could, you know, charge for.
[49:42] Second pass so we could we could charge.
[49:45] You know, the rate that you know would cover our staff time too or we could just look at the administrative fee. But anyway, those
[49:49] are a lot of considerations. I just want to bring that up just so you guys all have a preview to.
[49:54] We've been looking at and would be happy to get your input on all those minute details and.
[49:59] Hopefully we can get to a good consensus.
[50:01] Sure.
[50:03] Possible or reasonable to?
[50:05] I don't know if that's something you want to spearhead or send it to maybe some city staff, but.
[50:10] To conduct a study, what neighborhoods would we get? Maybe like 75% buy in? I think that's what we've previously used.
[50:16] As a threshold to implement at the neighborhood level.
[50:19] And the reason I bring that up is.
[50:21] You know, going back to the conversations we've had.
[50:23] In the last few sessions about.
[50:26] One size not fitting all and.
[50:28] Let's not apply something to the entire city. If it's more specific to helping certain neighborhoods and if those neighborhoods
[50:32] support it, then we want to enable them in in having that.
[50:37] But that doesn't mean other neighborhoods want to have that.
[50:41] Yeah, I think, you know, we could do that. I have been talking to.
[50:45] You know, Mayor gave me permission to work with.
[50:48] Our former planning Director at the time and then cash on.
[50:51] The.
[50:52] Parking study that we did, getting the numbers and kind of seeing which streets are having these major issues.
[50:57] One of the big things that we talked about were.
[50:59] That some of these neighborhoods are so overrun with rentals already that yeah, that's 75% threshold is just unreachable and so.
[51:06] Implementing this, we may get complaints from those people that are renting out excessively, but I think there's enough support
[51:10] from from people who live here.
[51:14] Who want to raise their families here, who don't want to have to move out because of.
[51:17] Some of these issues.
[51:20] That I would be supportive of.
[51:22] Saying without the 75% support, let's let's implement that and.
[51:27] You know, see if we do need to have that, would you say that would be for all of the neighborhoods in?
[51:31] In your area or just a city? Bridgeport and Lechevano, right?
[51:35] So I've gotten buy in from Bridgeport, LA Shaman at the Gardens, Cottonwoods, Westbrook.
[51:40] And.
[51:41] The maples, that was the last one, so winds are up that way.
[51:45] Windsor's private streets? Yep.
[51:47] Right. But yeah, those those are the public neighborhoods that have gotten and I also did want to present this to.
[51:54] To any other neighborhood who is interested in something like this that would.
[51:57] Kind of.
[51:58] Put those limits in place.
[51:59] We do have those reasonable accommodations, but.
[52:02] Something that would get really all that low hanging fruit of those those really high occupancy rentals. Could you could you go
[52:05] through the?
[52:08] Proposal so it was. So if you live in the home you get 2 passes? Is that what you said? So you get one automatically, one auto?
[52:15] And then?
[52:16] A homeowner could request if they are owner occupied.
[52:20] Or.
[52:23] An owner occupied nonrental.
[52:25] Or if their owner occupied rental if they have a business license. So that was kind of the thought there.
[52:30] There was some debate amongst.
[52:32] All the people I've been talking to on Should we charge for that second pass?
[52:36] What would those charges look like?
[52:37] I know we used to have a $60.00 annual pass for for.
[52:41] For some, that was trying to cover city staff time as well.
[52:44] Just the the fee for the app is $20 annually, so.
[52:48] I feel like.
[52:49] There was maybe some support on those nominal fees. I honestly would like to.
[52:53] Try to figure out if we could carve out a way to have exceptions for.
[52:56] Households that have like a lot of teenage drivers.
[52:59] We don't want to discourage.
[53:00] People from having kids or having their family members drive, but.
[53:04] Just something to help.
[53:05] Focus on those ones or.
[53:07] Or restrict the.
[53:08] The rentals would be.
[53:10] That would be hugely helpful. There was.
[53:12] A decade where I had a used car lot in my front yard because all my I had five kids, five teenagers at the time, right?
[53:19] So yeah.
[53:21] I hope I can make a comment or not, I'd be happy to.
[53:24] Would you come up to the microphone? Come up to the mic, Sir, please.
[53:27] Come on up.
[53:28] Sorry, I'm not very professional. I came over here in my sweats because I was like.
[53:32] Shoot, the meetings today come as you are so.
[53:35] Yeah, Hamlet Gordillo from Le Cheminant.
[53:38] Your favorite neighborhood?
[53:40] Because of these problems, right?
[53:44] Anyway.
[53:45] Yeah, just wanted to.
[53:47] Because we met up as a neighborhood.
[53:49] Briefly and.
[53:51] We had a couple of families. They loved the ideas of this happening.
[53:54] There are a couple of concerns where there's a couple families that do have several children where they're like Eric, we have two
[53:58] kids that are going to be getting old enough.
[54:01] Where they're going to have.
[54:03] At least one extra car for the kid.
[54:05] Or both. So they just.
[54:07] Kind of want.
[54:08] The City Council to keep that in mind.
[54:10] But they love the idea of doing something.
[54:12] With it because they're like, we want our streets.
[54:14] Save for our kids to.
[54:16] Be running out there.
[54:18] Skating.
[54:20] Scootering, running, whatever.
[54:21] Playing around.
[54:24] So I'd be happy if you need some more data from Le Cheminant or need to speak to get some of these families to be representatives
[54:29] to share some of their thoughts, I'd be happy to.
[54:34] Get their input as well.
[54:36] So.
[54:36] I've talked to several of them. They'd be happy to do that.
[54:39] I just need a point of contact.
[54:42] #2 is just making sure that.
[54:46] I know like again we talked about 75%.
[54:48] Unfortunately.
[54:50] Looking at maps and kind of getting just some anecdotal data of.
[54:53] What?
[54:54] The ratio is of actual families to rentals.
[54:57] It's yeah, I'd say it's probably about 5050 and lemonade.
[55:01] Roughly.
[55:02] So it'll be difficult to get that. And what worries me too is a lot of assemblies are very.
[55:07] In pro of a solution.
[55:09] I just worry about that.
[55:10] Blowback that's going to come from all the college students.
[55:14] LLC, all the people that own the properties, so it's seeing like, OK, what can we best do to kind of deal with that?
[55:20] Blowback that will come afterwards that are not the families there. So I just kind of wanted to bring that up as well to kind of
[55:25] keep it so 75% is not reachable. What is a reachable number? What do you think was appropriate?
[55:31] I don't know.
[55:32] I was going to say I'd have to go.
[55:36] I mean it.
[55:37] I really don't know. I'll have.
[55:40] Base, I know I'm familiar with neighbors within a couple blocks of our neighborhood just because I interact with them and talk
[55:43] with them. So I could go around and kind of.
[55:47] Get in a rough estimate in terms of a couple blocks. So again, anecdotal.
[55:51] But uh.
[55:52] To be like, OK, out of the houses within these many blocks, these are the many.
[55:56] Families that said yes.
[55:58] All these others are rentals. So I can automatically most likely assume that will be say no, yeah, yeah. So.
[56:05] I I think this is great. The only thing that I would say is that in each neighborhood.
[56:11] Following.
[56:12] What Councilman Wood is trying to do is of empowering Someone Like You.
[56:17] That is in the neighborhood or two or three of them.
[56:20] And gathering that data because you know who?
[56:23] Who are the violators?
[56:24] Creating a map.
[56:26] These are the houses.
[56:28] These are the rentals that you have issues with.
[56:31] You know each house so that.
[56:33] That map.
[56:34] Because that information is really key for each.
[56:37] Neighborhood umm.
[56:38] And then when we come to vote on this in two weeks.
[56:41] Prior to that meeting, we have that so you can show us.
[56:45] This is our plan.
[56:47] East, I don't think I need a 75% threshold. Yeah, well.
[56:51] You know what I mean? I I just need a.
[56:53] Especially if it's overrun, because I believe both of those communities are overrun with LLC. Wood is suggesting that we might
[56:59] want to get 75% of those of those owners who actually live the land ownership who actually reside there.
[57:06] So and that that seems like that might be doable, but what I what I love about the onus of being it on.
[57:11] That leader is.
[57:13] He's going around talking, hey.
[57:14] This is a negotiation of that neighborhood, right?
[57:17] This is what we want.
[57:19] Making, you know, empowering the community to come and say this is where we're at, and then we can give that.
[57:24] Plan that that map that you've made.
[57:27] And saying hey.
[57:29] Do we agree to this And then?
[57:30] Two weeks from now, making sure everyone knows hey.
[57:33] Come and speak to the plan.
[57:35] I don't mind supporting without just.
[57:38] Especially even if the community was overrun with rentals and we were under 50.
[57:42] Just because.
[57:43] You're getting people moving out.
[57:46] Vineyard because of the problem.
[57:48] You know in your.
[57:48] You're having just such neighborhood problems.
[57:51] Yeah. So, and that's where I mean, I don't know.
[57:54] I don't know if there's a right number or percentage of support to get I don't need.
[57:59] I think it's just like and especially in two weeks that's that's going to take or whenever the plan, whenever they're ready for
[58:03] the plan, right. Yeah, no. And I think we could be ready to.
[58:07] To have something to vote on in two weeks and then we could kind of start a progressive implementation timeline where you know, we
[58:12] we passed a resolution, but then we wouldn't necessarily start enforcement until like June.
[58:18] So that would give people plenty of time. We'd get a media campaign out.
[58:22] But I would I just. I just know.
[58:24] How much?
[58:25] You know, so many families that have have literally moved out over this issue.
[58:29] And I know it's an issue and there's.
[58:31] A lot of families that.
[58:32] Would love to see it that aren't necessarily going to.
[58:35] You know.
[58:36] Participate in the process and and you know, of course we want to encourage that, but.
[58:41] I do think this is something that would be so beneficial and really capture all that low hanging fruit and then we could tweak it
[58:45] from there if we needed to do.
[58:49] More or less. I mean, we could kind of see.
[58:51] How this goes? But I definitely think.
[58:54] You'd get rid of.
[58:55] That one house that's causing 5 spaces to be taken up constantly when I think and I think not only in the map of when you're
[58:59] drawing, when you go and take a print off of that map.
[59:04] Identifying the home and saying there are.
[59:07] Like looking at overnight, there's 5.
[59:09] In this house or there's six vehicles.
[59:11] Because that helps us.
[59:13] You know, ascertain. Oh yeah, Holy cow. So.
[59:17] Talking about these seven houses.
[59:19] Can't put names on them who's doing it but.
[59:22] This is the home.
[59:24] I think that's critical to.
[59:25] Making a decision, there's, I mean, there's when we had our like little meeting in the neighborhood, there was.
[59:31] Definitely other areas that people in Schemat.
[59:34] Nicole and I don't know about that. We like.
[59:36] Oh yeah, this house is a problem in this one. This one's a problem in these couple blocks. So I guess who would I get that
[59:42] information to so I can get some maps that are good to be printable and start gathering data for you?
[59:48] I guess that's the Jacob wood has been the one that's led it. But I mean both of you guys are working together I guess on it. I
[59:52] mean the wood would be good but not here today but.
[59:57] But I also think that.
[59:59] Yeah. What was I going to say about that?
[1:00:02] Just I think the the neighborhood.
[1:00:04] Captains or whatever that are organizing it.
[1:00:07] Knowing that you're.
[1:00:07] You got to own your data like what? I want to make sure right? My big thing too is like.
[1:00:13] I want to make sure that the neighborhood, that the families in the neighborhood are bought in so that way they know.
[1:00:18] They're aware of what's coming. They can share it with other neighbors.
[1:00:21] And if.
[1:00:23] Set up as best as possible. It's going to reduce that blowback that we're going to get of like.
[1:00:27] And it's my private property.
[1:00:30] And.
[1:00:32] Am I allowed to call you that in City Council meeting?
[1:00:34] OK. All right.
[1:00:36] I think it would be very important on social media or even just working with staff to.
[1:00:44] Put a flyer on every door.
[1:00:45] Empower who that leader is.
[1:00:47] To say hey.
[1:00:48] Over the next week, I'm studying this out.
[1:00:51] The Lechemina.
[1:00:52] And uh.
[1:00:54] Bridgeport neighborhood.
[1:00:56] We're gathering information.
[1:00:58] So that they empower that leader to.
[1:01:00] Talk to him.
[1:01:01] You know, hey, get, we're trying to, we're trying to have a neighborhood decision of what we're trying to do here.
[1:01:06] OK. So yeah, awesome.
[1:01:07] That'd be great.
[1:01:08] So maps wise then who do I?
[1:01:11] Do I reach out to Councilman if you can even turn in one map to the City Hall?
[1:01:17] Even, uh.
[1:01:18] Like Tony or or or David Kyle.
[1:01:21] They can make copies and I'm sure get them distributed to all of us, right? Does that work? Yeah.
[1:01:25] And also we have.
[1:01:27] If you send an e-mail to council, City Council, council at Vineyard Utah, council at.
[1:01:34] City Council? Is that City Council? Look up what our e-mail is. yeahcitycouncil@vineyardutah.gov goes to all of us, OK?
[1:01:42] Yeah, City Council just get access because yeah, I mean, if you have.
[1:01:45] Maps data, or if there's map data that can just do on Google and I can just, if that's good enough and I could just print that,
[1:01:49] you've got a good map, right? Yeah.
[1:01:52] And sorry, I didn't know that's Google.
[1:01:55] Said I was going to keep this short and hopefully the work session next week.
[1:02:00] Could we just pull some of the parking study data cache from the?
[1:02:04] This study I know we had a lot of these neighborhoods looked at.
[1:02:08] But I mean the neighborhoods I listed, I mean that's close to.
[1:02:12] I'd say that's like 80% of all the.
[1:02:14] Public St.
[1:02:15] Neighborhoods that we have in the city and so.
[1:02:18] I'd be supportive of putting this on the public streets for.
[1:02:22] The neighborhoods in general, but.
[1:02:24] I'd also be happy to keep it to these.
[1:02:26] Just to start implementing a good study, I think it would.
[1:02:29] Kind of where I'm at with yeah, we should.
[1:02:32] Go, Jake. Go ahead, Jake, please. Yeah, Go ahead, Jacob.
[1:02:35] Yeah, no, sorry.
[1:02:36] I mean, I think we should target it first. I mean looking at the numbers, but I really appreciate Maria in cash. We've been
[1:02:40] working with you guys and asking for more data.
[1:02:44] On where and what Pacific neighborhoods are.
[1:02:46] Dealing with the problems and yeah, Bridgeport #1 la Shawn may #2 in Providence.
[1:02:52] And my only issue if the.
[1:02:54] City parking pass.
[1:02:56] Is the fact that it's not a.
[1:03:00] Root constitution, if that makes sense.
[1:03:03] Like at the end of the day.
[1:03:05] The way to.
[1:03:06] Don't have to remove the people.
[1:03:09] From these houses, right?
[1:03:11] Providence of the city parking pass.
[1:03:14] We had 12 confirmed complaints last year.
[1:03:19] All right.
[1:03:21] So it's just my point is while we implement this.
[1:03:24] We also needed working on.
[1:03:27] Ways to strengthen our current code enforcement to.
[1:03:30] Actually removed.
[1:03:32] These people from.
[1:03:33] These properties.
[1:03:35] Yeah, I'm definitely committed to that, I think.
[1:03:38] This budget cycle, that's something I definitely want to advocate for is adding.
[1:03:42] More code enforcement.
[1:03:43] Been talking to Holden about how we could.
[1:03:45] Structure that that's something I ran on, as well as having a more robust code enforcement so we can.
[1:03:51] Handle this long term.
[1:03:52] But I'd love to.
[1:03:53] Give these families, a lot of them showed up.
[1:03:55] To the meeting to just ask for that relief. They've been dealing this with this issue for years and years. So I'm with you I I
[1:04:00] think that would be great. Yeah. I think that I think that we start with the ones that are like horrendous. I drove through
[1:04:04] Bridgeport and lechement I mean it's just.
[1:04:10] There's challenges beyond challenges there.
[1:04:13] Gardens isn't too far behind, but it's like.
[1:04:15] I look at like the Cottonwoods. I'd like to make sure that the neighborhoods feel good about that. Some of the.
[1:04:19] That's one that I haven't heard from. So yeah, there isn't like super bad, but they want something so just.
[1:04:24] You know, kind of.
[1:04:26] Start.
[1:04:27] The low hanging fruit is, you know, like I said, it seems to be Bridgeport, the Shannon Gardens.
[1:04:32] And then just make sure that we have good neighbor buying as we kind of go down there just to make sure everyone's aligned. So we
[1:04:36] all kind of just touched on the.
[1:04:41] Keeping it a little bit more targeted in scope, especially as it starts, I think that's important. I would also consider looking
[1:04:44] at.
[1:04:47] What the current city code requires for parking and rentals.
[1:04:52] And the reason I bring that up is because I know.
[1:04:55] To rent an Adu.
[1:04:57] You are required by city code.
[1:04:59] To provide additional parking spaces on the property that are not street parking, just one. So that's another aspect I think it
[1:05:05] too. It's actually only a total of 4 parking stalls according to state law.
[1:05:11] Oh really? Discrepancy between state and city code? Ah, curious so that that's the.
[1:05:17] The loop.
[1:05:17] So let's also pass that city code back to.
[1:05:21] Tandem parking and whatever. Yeah, OK, microphone.
[1:05:26] And then, you know, Jacob, would you, you shared that this wasn't addressing a root cause, but I would like to posit an economic
[1:05:32] concept real quick that you get more of what you incentivize or disincentivize. And if we disincentivize.
[1:05:39] Over occupancy. By enforcing parking you actually will see a reduction in over occupancy because then it becomes expensive to be
[1:05:43] over occupied.
[1:05:46] Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Jeff Harmon, I'm just mentioning the data I got about Providence. Providence.
[1:05:54] Yeah, issue the city parking cost I believe in 2022, right?
[1:05:58] And still this is 2026. New staff complaints about over occupancy.
[1:06:02] So I just hope that when we do this.
[1:06:04] They don't say oh.
[1:06:05] We solved over occupancy. It's done.
[1:06:07] This is just.
[1:06:08] A temporary.
[1:06:10] Banned them, doesn't adjust the root.
[1:06:12] And get these people.
[1:06:13] Out of the properties, yeah.
[1:06:16] Go ahead, Sir. OK, Jeff Harmon with the gardens.
[1:06:19] Actually, it's the garden.
[1:06:20] Like the garden, yeah, One of those things, yeah, we were, we were looking into this like, you know.
[1:06:28] You know multi.
[1:06:29] You know, families living in a single family unit and.
[1:06:32] All that stuff and now the parking and when I was.
[1:06:34] Bouncing between like state and city code.
[1:06:37] The discrepancy isn't major, but it you know, they define tandem park in the same or whatever, but it's like it's either state or
[1:06:41] city. It's like 1 is 4.
[1:06:46] Parking spots. One is 5 parking spots, so there probably does need to be a true up.
[1:06:50] With some of that just to make sure that some consistency there.
[1:06:54] Yeah, that's all I was really saying. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome, Tony. For the record, it is the garden. Let's make sure
[1:06:58] that that's noted.
[1:07:04] OK, awesome.
[1:07:06] We're going to jump to the next thing here on the agenda.
[1:07:10] I had. I'm just going to have.
[1:07:12] I had a statement on the tough. I'm just going to give that to Tony. Can we just put this in the record?
[1:07:17] So we can.
[1:07:18] It's getting a little late.
[1:07:19] Want me to read it out loud? Should I read it real quick? Read it all right? Be a mayor.
[1:07:24] OK, sounds good. I just wanted to I don't want to have it. The meeting called in 15 minutes when we got.
[1:07:30] Stuff to do. Here we go, Peach.
[1:07:32] Over the past several days, our administration, the City Council been reviewing this transportation utility fee that was adopted
[1:07:35] by the.
[1:07:38] Previous administration, December of last year. So there's been a lot of discussion about this.
[1:07:43] Online and it has caused us a lot of.
[1:07:47] Frustration and so forth.
[1:07:48] So while funding transportation infrastructure is critically, critically important, the structure of this fee has raised serious
[1:07:53] concerns about the impact on Vineyard residents, especially our business community.
[1:07:59] Some businesses have reported charges approaching $5000 per month.
[1:08:03] Which creates a significant burden and sends the wrong message.
[1:08:06] To the companies considering coming and investing in our city.
[1:08:10] Because of these concerns, the Asian Order, effective immediately, to suspend all penalties, fines and enforcement actions related
[1:08:13] to the.
[1:08:16] The transportation utility feed the tough.
[1:08:19] While we conduct.
[1:08:20] A full review of the program.
[1:08:22] We're working with the Public Works Director, St. Engineers, Finance directors, evaluating the methodology behind the fee. Is
[1:08:25] financial assumptions economic?
[1:08:29] Implications and broader city budgets so we can determine the most responsible path forward and I wanted.
[1:08:34] Shout out the staff thing, they've been so helpful on this.
[1:08:37] And Parker as well, has been.
[1:08:39] Really digging digging into it as well.
[1:08:42] The goal of this administration and council is simple. It's to maintain an infrastructure while ensuring.
[1:08:47] Vineyard remains a competitive.
[1:08:48] Business friendly community for families, employers and future investment.
[1:08:52] We'll continue.
[1:08:54] To keep the Council and public informed as this review.
[1:08:56] Moves forward.
[1:08:58] So we're.
[1:08:59] Moving forward on trying to get this.
[1:09:01] With all haste but.
[1:09:03] Like I said, we've suspended the.
[1:09:08] The late penalties and fines and enforcement actions related to it so.
[1:09:13] So we will continue spending the the fines and so forth. Are you spending the tough as well We.
[1:09:18] We need to. We are working.
[1:09:21] So that's a no.
[1:09:22] Know as of right now, but we've got to we're working.
[1:09:26] Very, with all haste to figure out.
[1:09:31] Do we expect a couple weeks to figure that out?
[1:09:34] We kind of have a deadline. We.
[1:09:37] Goal obvious, yeah.
[1:09:38] Your statement.
[1:09:40] I think just said that you.
[1:09:42] Are issuing the order to also halt collection.
[1:09:46] But if you're also halting the fees and fines, there's no enforcement mechanism to paying the bill.
[1:09:50] Yes. So subsequently.
[1:09:52] There's no collection of the.
[1:09:55] There could be a retroactive action, though, when you come back at it. So I just want to make sure we're clear about that. Yeah,
[1:09:59] we're looking at all those things. So go ahead, Evan, please.
[1:10:03] Yeah. As far as timing, I, I think that we want to have that for next council to vote on, right. So we're we're working on it.
[1:10:11] Planning to get that done as quick as we can.
[1:10:13] For sure. Thanks a couple times.
[1:10:15] Awesome.
[1:10:17] All right, let's move over to the consent items.
[1:10:21] Is there let's.
[1:10:26] Do any anyone opposed to these consent items or want to adjust them?
[1:10:30] I move to approve the consent items as presented 6.1 and 6.2.
[1:10:35] For the.
[1:10:36] People in the audience these consent items are.
[1:10:39] The City Council meeting minutes from February 10th and February 24th.
[1:10:44] Thank you for making those changes. Appreciate that.
[1:10:48] Awesome.
[1:10:49] Do I have a second?
[1:10:50] 2nd.
[1:10:52] All in favor.
[1:10:53] Hi, OK.
[1:10:55] Anyone good? OK.
[1:10:58] All righty, let's do.
[1:11:00] Let's jump to the business items. We'll do the appointments last. That's OK. Let's jump to the Arts Commission. Let's do 8.1.
[1:11:09] Arch Commission wrap tax grants.
[1:11:12] Resolution.
[1:11:15] Do we have any discussion on that?
[1:11:19] Yeah, OK, awesome.
[1:11:21] Yeah, I was just going to ask if we could put it on the.
[1:11:24] On screen. Can you pass that to Tony?
[1:11:27] Thank you, Sir.
[1:11:29] Awesome. I'm here representing the arch committee. Could you state your name, please? Oh, Jeremy said. Well, the garden.
[1:11:35] Neighborhood.
[1:11:38] So what we've done in ours is we represent arts, culture.
[1:11:42] Or arts, rec culture and heritage, and we have different people on the committee appointed to those areas.
[1:11:49] Elizabeth Shelley is over arts Daniel George is over at Rec.
[1:11:53] Bronzatin is over culture and Sherry Kay.
[1:11:55] You are here is over the Heritage committee and so.
[1:12:00] Our goal is to.
[1:12:03] Choose what to do with those wrap tax funds that are available for us.
[1:12:07] And so we had a system to go to the next slide.
[1:12:13] Dash.
[1:12:13] I hope it's more than one.
[1:12:17] Oh, is there one? Is there one before this?
[1:12:22] No.
[1:12:23] That was it, OK.
[1:12:26] That's the way I wanted to talk about it.
[1:12:29] So these are the different people that applied. We had the Vineyard library.
[1:12:33] And they were trying to get some more graphic novels and different reading materials.
[1:12:39] Or different kinds of reading materials to engage kids more Friends of the Vineyard Library.
[1:12:45] Similar.
[1:12:47] Initiative that they had.
[1:12:50] And they also wanted to increase story time at Vineyard Library to get a few more of those.
[1:12:54] To engage the kids in what they're doing. And they're already.
[1:12:57] Very popular.
[1:12:59] Carry On was a portable skate ramp for events.
[1:13:03] One of the residents was going to build a.
[1:13:06] Portable half pipe that could be set up at Vineyard days or stations at various parks.
[1:13:12] Heritage Foundation proposed building.
[1:13:16] A curriculum.
[1:13:17] 4th grade.
[1:13:19] About.
[1:13:20] The history and heritage of Vineyard.
[1:13:22] Utah Valley Symphony was going to do a theme song. Utah Lake Foundation.
[1:13:26] Wanted to do a paddle event.
[1:13:29] From.
[1:13:34] Lehigh.
[1:13:37] Was it? Yeah.
[1:13:38] Thanks.
[1:13:39] Back to Vineyard.
[1:13:42] And then we had Atomic Athletics and Supplies for Better Future Foundation that had to do 1.
[1:13:48] Was a festival.
[1:13:49] Cultural festival and then Atomic Athletics was soccer.
[1:13:53] Next slide.
[1:13:55] So all of those were 501-C3's came to propose.
[1:14:02] Their initiatives and so we had a rubric.
[1:14:05] That ask certain questions like and would be rated on one to five. So how was this aligned with the Arch Commission?
[1:14:12] And Vineyard City, does the organization have the necessary infrastructure?
[1:14:17] How well does the project involve the community? Are there partnerships with?
[1:14:21] Organizations for the project. Our Vineyard citizens involved in it.
[1:14:26] Does this and then one of the questions was how long?
[1:14:30] Will be sustaining.
[1:14:32] Or how long will the impact last?
[1:14:36] And what would the ROI be on the project? So after running that through the 6th arch Commission members cash?
[1:14:45] The voting.
[1:14:47] Came out to be the Vineyard library.
[1:14:50] Which is the reading diversification.
[1:14:52] Vacation.
[1:14:54] Initiative. They asked for $3630 and had a total score of 187.
[1:15:02] Vineyard or Friends of the Vineyard Library asked for 2000 and they had a score of 180.
[1:15:07] Carry on was third. That was the portable skate ramp.
[1:15:12] And they asked for $14,500.
[1:15:16] But could also do partial funding. Heritage Foundation asked for 15,000 could also.
[1:15:21] Go forward with partial funding and then Utah Valley Symphony and Utah Lake found.
[1:15:26] Well, Utah Valley Symphony Ashford 2 grand for a theme song for a vineyard to be played at events and.
[1:15:33] Gatherings and the Utah Lake.
[1:15:36] Foundation.
[1:15:37] Paddle event. We were awarded 2500 dollars.
[1:15:42] So the ones that are grayed out are.
[1:15:45] Ones after discussing.
[1:15:48] We decided as an arch Commission not to award the funds.
[1:15:51] Two, and if we go to the next slide, I can kind of cover that.
[1:15:55] And can I ask you can ask questions. Yeah. I was like, I'm just rattling this off trying to help you pull the information I'm
[1:15:58] reading that I'm looking at the.
[1:16:02] Packet that was presented at the end of January.
[1:16:05] And there's changes to the scoring structure as well as.
[1:16:09] Obviously some of the allocations.
[1:16:13] I'm curious.
[1:16:15] Was someone added to the scoring? Because like on these, the overall scores, I mean capped at 156 and the highest was the Heritage
[1:16:19] Foundation in January?
[1:16:23] Now it's, you know, number four or five on your list.
[1:16:27] Down and the scores are in the one seventies, one 80s and higher. So I'm just curious what what changed in the scoring rubric and
[1:16:31] and how was that factored in?
[1:16:37] I think the libraries were the top ranked.
[1:16:40] Across the board.
[1:16:42] Okay.
[1:16:45] OK.
[1:16:47] There was a member who had not submitted their scores because they were out of town at that time.
[1:16:53] And so with that.
[1:16:55] Extra scoring that shifted the.
[1:16:58] Total.
[1:16:59] Points OK for that.
[1:17:02] And that was, I think that was 1 member.
[1:17:04] Who did that? And so that was.
[1:17:07] Shifted them slightly.
[1:17:09] Sorry, what was the other question?
[1:17:12] Did I cover it? Yeah, that's the the general. Just I was curious because the scores are.
[1:17:16] Difference. There's a different scale obviously then between the two of them and then that changed.
[1:17:22] I mean significant allocations of.
[1:17:24] This grant allotment.
[1:17:26] And where it's going.
[1:17:28] Yeah.
[1:17:30] Also, I've got another question. You mentioned just briefly that.
[1:17:34] The Heritage Foundation.
[1:17:37] Could move forward with partial funding.
[1:17:39] I read in the application that one of the reasons it was reduced to 0 is because.
[1:17:43] They would need the full funding to complete the project this year.
[1:17:47] Yeah, going back and forth with them. I mean, there's members of the Heritage Foundation here.
[1:17:51] They, well, I mean, I could go to that slide if we're all agreed on the.
[1:17:56] Vineyard Libraries.
[1:17:58] Jump the gun there, yeah.
[1:18:02] Yeah. So we, we on the Arts Commission feel really strongly about the Heritage Foundation and we love the initiatives.
[1:18:07] Part of the reasons after discussing.
[1:18:11] Because the skate ramp.
[1:18:14] Did end up scoring higher afterward.
[1:18:16] We were like, oh, we should give the skate ramp.
[1:18:20] Some of that.
[1:18:21] While we initially awarded the skate ramp about 6 grand to build.
[1:18:25] Like a halfpipe.
[1:18:26] And then after talking to legal and going back and forth with.
[1:18:29] Brian.
[1:18:31] And kind of looking at overall.
[1:18:33] Holistically, we're.
[1:18:34] We could keep the some of that money in the wrap tax and.
[1:18:38] Keep it going toward the larger skate park initiative.
[1:18:42] And hopefully getting that.
[1:18:43] $1,000,000 grant.
[1:18:44] Right.
[1:18:46] And so.
[1:18:48] And then we heard back from the Heritage Foundation that with the $7500 that we originally had said we'd like to award them.
[1:18:56] That they wouldn't be able to do the curriculum.
[1:19:00] With that and so we went back and said OK.
[1:19:05] There's also so a couple reasons that we said we can reduce that to 0 is.
[1:19:10] One of the things was a few of the members.
[1:19:13] Spouses are teachers.
[1:19:15] Some of them are 4th grade.
[1:19:17] And they said that.
[1:19:21] The likelihood that they would.
[1:19:23] Taken outside course like this and implement into the classroom.
[1:19:26] Was very low.
[1:19:28] And so we kind of looked at and said, well, maybe there's other ways that we can implement this foundation next year. We could
[1:19:32] award a higher amount to the Heritage Foundation.
[1:19:36] To do that.
[1:19:37] The other reasons were they also have a.
[1:19:40] Concurrent project.
[1:19:43] That is.
[1:19:44] Do I think in the next few months?
[1:19:47] And one of the things that they said they would do is have the curriculum ready by.
[1:19:51] August for the start of the school year. So we felt like that was a lot all of a sudden to be like, OK, finish the last project.
[1:19:57] That you were awarded, I think it was $16,000 from the previous year.
[1:20:01] That's still ongoing.
[1:20:03] And then the final reason.
[1:20:05] For the Heritage Foundation.
[1:20:06] Was the America 250. As part of that initiative, we are planning on creating a series of videos.
[1:20:14] Interviewing veterans.
[1:20:17] From Vineyard, getting the.
[1:20:18] Basis of.
[1:20:20] Or the history behind Geneva Steel and some of the early residents and so.
[1:20:24] By having those videos this year.
[1:20:26] That would build on the Heritage Foundation's curriculum for next year when they applied.
[1:20:31] I assume they'll apply again under similar circumstances.
[1:20:34] That was a lot, anyway.
[1:20:38] Thank you.
[1:20:39] Any other questions on this Continue the presentation, Yeah.
[1:20:43] Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
[1:20:46] If you go to SO just a word on the. I think I covered this.
[1:20:50] The skate park, but we decided not to fund that one despite the the higher score.
[1:20:55] And then the next was the Utah Valley Symphony.
[1:20:58] This.
[1:21:00] We thought was kind of.
[1:21:03] Thing and it's really a labor of love. The cost would be much more than $2000.
[1:21:09] And potentially we could get a lot of members of the Symphony kind of creating a a fanfare.
[1:21:14] For the city and.
[1:21:16] Jordan, one of our residents is.
[1:21:19] Is here.
[1:21:20] And has contributed a lot with to certain events, just getting groups together, brass and playing. And so we wanted to award them
[1:21:25] for that.
[1:21:31] And their contributions to events and city.
[1:21:36] And the final?
[1:21:39] Award was the Utah Lake Foundation they requested.
[1:21:41] $9000 for.
[1:21:46] A large event.
[1:21:48] We decided we didn't want to fund them to the fullest and we had a couple requests to tie that into Vineyard days and to make it
[1:21:52] go from AF to.
[1:21:57] Vineyard but.
[1:21:58] For safety and for wind.
[1:22:01] And various other reasons.
[1:22:03] We have to go.
[1:22:04] From vineyard to there. And so we awarded them.
[1:22:09] $1500 for the equipment and then $1000 for.
[1:22:14] The food.
[1:22:16] So that the.
[1:22:18] Oh, and it's for safety.
[1:22:21] Along the way as well.
[1:22:22] But we all feel passionate about Utah Lake and that's a part of the community. We want to see that be involved in more of Vineyard
[1:22:27] events and what we do.
[1:22:34] I think that's it, Gash. Is that the last slide? That's the last slide.
[1:22:39] Anyway, that's our recommendation to the Council.
[1:22:41] Thanks. Kash, would you bring back the slide that had the totals and what they were?
[1:22:47] Recommending uh.
[1:22:50] Thanks.
[1:22:53] Yeah.
[1:22:55] So I think that puts about.
[1:22:59] I can't remember what the total is, maybe 11 grand.
[1:23:02] Keeping it into the.
[1:23:03] Rap tax for.
[1:23:05] Skate park to.
[1:23:06] Get us closer to that.
[1:23:10] I think it's 509,870 is what I've got on the packet.
[1:23:13] But is that?
[1:23:15] The sound, well, that's the spend versus what he's saying would stay in the rap tax.
[1:23:19] You're talking about two sides of the same number.
[1:23:22] Yeah.
[1:23:22] Yeah.
[1:23:24] So that there be about 11 grand.
[1:23:26] I think it's 11 grand.
[1:23:29] Left that would stay in the wrap tax that would.
[1:23:31] We would hope would be dedicated to the skate park.
[1:23:34] Grant.
[1:23:35] Then get there sooner.
[1:23:36] So that we could move forward with that build.
[1:23:39] There seems to be a lot of interest in.
[1:23:42] In that park.
[1:23:43] Hey Brian, I can see you on Tony's computer. Are you listening in?
[1:23:49] You got the nod to your Yeah, I got a nod from you.
[1:23:53] Hey, out of curiosity, what's the?
[1:23:57] Actual amount of funding.
[1:23:59] To match the grant for the skate park right now available in the wrap tax. Do you know?
[1:24:07] We have.
[1:24:09] 510,000.
[1:24:11] $139.16.
[1:24:14] And I'm sure that that includes the $11,000 because it hasn't been taken and appropriated anywhere yet, correct?
[1:24:22] 9870 so you don't need it.
[1:24:24] Yeah, to me it sounds like you don't.
[1:24:26] Need it then for that project because it already has the funds to cover it. You're also generating roughly what, 30 grand a month
[1:24:31] into the rap tax from sales tax? Or 25 grand I can't remember off the top of my head.
[1:24:37] But but what I'm getting at is.
[1:24:39] Why? What's the recommendation of the purpose behind not using the full 20,000 then if we already have the funds allocated?
[1:24:46] In the RAP tax to meet the grant requirement.
[1:24:49] Oh yeah, my understanding that we were short of.
[1:24:53] Of that, I thought we were in the floor. It's for the total.
[1:24:56] Because it's like one point.
[1:24:57] I can speak to that as well.
[1:24:59] Please, Brian.
[1:24:59] Thanks.
[1:25:01] Yes, so.
[1:25:03] With the skate park grant the total cost.
[1:25:07] Is going to come to.
[1:25:10] We'll talk about this in the next.
[1:25:12] Business item but the overall cost for the skate park with all of the.
[1:25:18] Added parking, landscaping, restroom, facility, all of that. It's going to come to about 1.2 or $1.3 million right around that
[1:25:22] ballpark.
[1:25:27] And so essentially with the wrap tax.
[1:25:30] Fund that we currently have, it won't.
[1:25:33] Cover.
[1:25:34] The entire project, so we would need to allocate.
[1:25:37] Future wrap tax funds to this.
[1:25:40] So yes, using some of this.
[1:25:43] Rap tax fund.
[1:25:44] To go towards the arts grant, it does reduce the amount of money we have to go towards the skate park.
[1:25:51] But if that is something that City Council.
[1:25:53] Values.
[1:25:54] We can definitely go that route.
[1:25:57] I'm curious too. We talked.
[1:26:00] Previously about this in an e-mail this week when I expressed my support for the skate park.
[1:26:05] But it was.
[1:26:07] Looking at the possibility of how do we phase the skate park?
[1:26:10] Construction so that.
[1:26:11] Knowing we're going to be 1.21 point 3,000,000 on that and it's.
[1:26:15] Not covered by the funds we currently have in the grant.
[1:26:18] How do we phase that in in such a way?
[1:26:20] That the incoming wrap tax is paying for it before the construction occurs.
[1:26:25] And it sounded like that was something that was very feasible. Is that accurate?
[1:26:31] Yes, that is accurate the full.
[1:26:35] How do we get the grant?
[1:26:38] That we move forward with the skate park project.
[1:26:41] Full build out wouldn't occur until.
[1:26:44] About June of 2027.
[1:26:46] So that gives us.
[1:26:49] Roughly 15 months.
[1:26:52] To continue to accrue tax.
[1:26:54] Response So if we.
[1:26:56] Continue to accrue about 20,000 a month.
[1:27:00] We will be just.
[1:27:01] Find and have all of that money.
[1:27:03] Secured before that park is.
[1:27:05] Is even done.
[1:27:07] With construction.
[1:27:08] Real quick and those.
[1:27:09] Is 20,000 how much we have leftover after our operational costs?
[1:27:13] Because I think some of the rec team.
[1:27:15] Funded by the RAP tax, Is that correct?
[1:27:19] I know we.
[1:27:19] Used to do that.
[1:27:22] Funded by the by the rap tax? No just.
[1:27:25] $20,000 a year.
[1:27:27] Up to this point, has typically been allocated by City Council for the Arch grant.
[1:27:33] Yeah, OK. And.
[1:27:36] I would be curious then to look at.
[1:27:39] Actually, let me ask this, what's the the timeline for the requirement for us to?
[1:27:44] Submit the the Arch Commission.
[1:27:46] Grant Awards.
[1:27:48] Is there a hard deadline that that has to be done by? I think, I think we just need to present to the council in March. I don't
[1:27:52] know if they is it a requiring approval in the bylaws.
[1:27:56] For March approval, I'm kind of looking at Brian cause.
[1:28:00] Yes, in the bylaws it does mention that we would disperse funding in March.
[1:28:05] So technically.
[1:28:07] We could wait two weeks.
[1:28:10] If if the Council wanted to wait to.
[1:28:13] Converse about this and make a decision then. But ideally if we could have a decision made by.
[1:28:19] I guess that would be the 24th of March. We would be just fine.
[1:28:23] The reason I ask is I'd be curious to see, you know, knowing that.
[1:28:26] We have.
[1:28:28] The funds available to start the project and have the funds available to.
[1:28:32] Pay for it overtime with the rap tax.
[1:28:34] What's the actual recommendation look like to use that $20,000 in grant I mean?
[1:28:40] Am I you guys on board with maybe looking at that?
[1:28:44] We could, we could revisit that as large Commission as well and say OK if.
[1:28:48] Knowing that.
[1:28:49] You know, with.
[1:28:50] The skate park wouldn't start for.
[1:28:52] 15 more months, right and there would be adequate.
[1:28:54] Funds.
[1:28:56] By the time we're ready to go when that grant comes.
[1:28:59] I thought I thought the grant was.
[1:29:00] To be awarded.
[1:29:01] Within a.
[1:29:02] In the next couple months. And so it needed to be.
[1:29:06] That amount needed to be full.
[1:29:08] In order to get that, but maybe.
[1:29:10] Misremembering that, Brian, are you hearing that question?
[1:29:15] I'm not sure if I totally understood the question. Can you repeat well?
[1:29:19] I think a lot of these with the timing, it's like.
[1:29:22] We want to have these ready for summer, like with the library and.
[1:29:25] And so getting the prep, I think it's more a matter of just.
[1:29:27] Making sure we're getting the money out soon enough so people can.
[1:29:30] Prep for summer, right?
[1:29:32] OK, now you're talking about this though, and we're talking about the skate park build out over the next 15 months.
[1:29:39] And yeah, when when is the grant application due for the skate park?
[1:29:45] I thought we'd turn that in already. The application is due on Friday of this week.
[1:29:49] OK, so we don't need to have.
[1:29:51] We don't need to have it fully funded at that time, just at the time.
[1:29:55] OK. All right. Just the commitment for the sons, I think.
[1:29:59] Arch Commission meets.
[1:30:01] Arch Commission, I believe meets next week and so we could look at that and say, hey, how do we want to?
[1:30:06] Knowing that.
[1:30:07] The skate park's taken care of.
[1:30:08] Do we want to put that funding into the Heritage Foundation or?
[1:30:11] Put that up in other ways and we can discuss with the Heritage Foundation.
[1:30:14] With that funding, what is a feasible?
[1:30:17] Timeline and deliverable for that.
[1:30:20] If that's what the Council would like.
[1:30:21] Are you guys good at that? That's what I would like to see happen.
[1:30:24] Mayor, I would move that we would continue this item for the until two weeks from now, our next regularly scheduled meeting.
[1:30:31] Emotional guidance I would Before you make a motion, I wanted to make a comment. I was able to go speak.
[1:30:36] The mayor had me go meet with the 2.
[1:30:41] Principles from the.
[1:30:42] Both the elementary schools here.
[1:30:45] Miss Belletti is fantastic. Giovanni.
[1:30:49] Was way cool as well.
[1:30:51] Both of them.
[1:30:53] Are like.
[1:30:54] First off, they didn't know we had a city library.
[1:30:57] So I was shocked at that. They had no clue.
[1:31:01] And they were so welcoming.
[1:31:04] Of.
[1:31:05] Us and we're like.
[1:31:06] Why aren't you using our library like?
[1:31:09] There, the doors are open.
[1:31:11] It's so big. We have so many books.
[1:31:14] We could make it bigger. How do we work together?
[1:31:17] And I described our library and where things are and they were like.
[1:31:21] How do we work together? Why don't they work with us?
[1:31:23] And I think the Council should look into that because.
[1:31:27] I don't know if we're really great at being in the education business of the city.
[1:31:31] I think our kids want to be educated and read but like.
[1:31:35] Listening to the two principles of like that is their profession.
[1:31:39] Listening to Timpanogos School District leadership, they went back and talked to the board as well.
[1:31:44] And, umm.
[1:31:45] The new school board obviously doesn't know a lot about that, so I think I'm a little bit concerned about the grants for the
[1:31:49] library.
[1:31:52] Not because we don't support.
[1:31:54] But.
[1:31:55] I see a bigger vision that the library could be so much bigger.
[1:31:58] In support and working together with those schools, that's the first thing. Awesome. So we got a motion here. Yeah, I got, I got a
[1:32:02] motion here. Will you repeat the motion?
[1:32:06] I move. We continue this item for two weeks to our next regularly scheduled meeting where we can.
[1:32:12] Again, discuss these issues.
[1:32:14] OK, do I have a second?
[1:32:17] Before we second it though, yeah, I second it.
[1:32:19] Wood Jacob would second it. Okay.
[1:32:22] All in favor.
[1:32:23] Aye.
[1:32:24] Aye, aye.
[1:32:26] Any news?
[1:32:27] Could we still hear from Sherry?
[1:32:29] Yes, let's do that. We'll continue that. Sherry's here. Let's come. You want to come up and Sherry, Kate?
[1:32:35] She good.
[1:32:37] Yeah, yeah. I just had a couple.
[1:32:40] Like, yeah, I just had a couple questions on.
[1:32:42] Emotions on motion The motion Motion that we motioned.
[1:32:45] So hold on till the motion passes. So we'll continue this till neck for two weeks. That passed. OK Sherry Kay, please.
[1:32:52] Are you asking me questions? Yes, I had. I just, I just heard you.
[1:32:56] Things that I couldn't hear anything you were saying.
[1:32:58] From up here but.
[1:32:59] I just wanted to get a better idea of the the Heritage Foundation and what.
[1:33:03] What would be helpful if we could?
[1:33:05] Find a way to partially support. How was the $6000 original award going to be used and.
[1:33:10] And just get your thoughts on that, see if we could try to. What I would really love to do is.
[1:33:14] Talk to Jerem privately. We could do this because there's things that.
[1:33:18] Were set in that meeting that were not accurate.
[1:33:20] As far as the fund, like the money that's been spent?
[1:33:24] Like what I would like to tell you is that it's.
[1:33:26] Took a while to get 7 estimates.
[1:33:29] And get approvals and things like that. We, we are under, we are ready for the sign. The sign is.
[1:33:34] Ready for to go?
[1:33:35] So the fact that you were questioning that we hadn't spent the money.
[1:33:39] That that would complicate it is.
[1:33:41] Not accurate.
[1:33:43] OK. And the fact that when I.
[1:33:46] Thought that we had the 7500 because that was originally.
[1:33:51] Was the decision.
[1:33:53] I already.
[1:33:54] We already kind of started talking with the principals and stuff, so anyway, I guess.
[1:34:00] And Jeremy didn't know that because I wasn't at the meeting. I couldn't.
[1:34:03] Talk. And they didn't know that that was.
[1:34:06] That had happened so.
[1:34:07] They they brought that up to me and I.
[1:34:09] They were excited about it.
[1:34:11] The curriculum.
[1:34:11] Well, Ben Johnson, like I said, the UVU, he is in history and education, he is already.
[1:34:17] Kind of has a plan.
[1:34:19] For curriculum development with students that he's working with on campus.
[1:34:24] And he's already talked to Giovanni. They're, they're very good friends. Anyway, I guess that's what the Heritage Commission did
[1:34:29] not know at the last meeting when I wasn't there.
[1:34:33] Thank you. So, so 7500 would be helpful and you'd still be able to.
[1:34:39] Kind of continue, maybe not for this year, but next year.
[1:34:41] Develop curriculum or something I.
[1:34:43] I mean.
[1:34:44] Or maybe outside grants?
[1:34:45] With the help of the student at UVU, I think we could probably.
[1:34:48] Bring it in for a lower number.
[1:34:51] I mean, $7500 is the money that when I went to Ben Johnson and we met, he was like.
[1:34:57] We can do this. So that was.
[1:35:00] Anyway.
[1:35:01] Thank you any.
[1:35:03] Questions.
[1:35:04] No, that's helpful. OK.
[1:35:06] Thank you.
[1:35:07] OK, so.
[1:35:08] And it is 9870 that we have.
[1:35:10] For the skate park right now, because this is.
[1:35:13] 10 and some change.
[1:35:14] OK. Thank you.
[1:35:15] OK, thank you. Let's jump to 8.2 Vineyard Skate Park budget allocation.
[1:35:23] Brian, would you like to introduce this item 8.2 real quick?
[1:35:31] Yes, you bet. Thank you.
[1:35:33] Yes. So the purpose of this?
[1:35:37] Resolution is just to identify the intent.
[1:35:41] Of the City Council.
[1:35:43] The pending we receive.
[1:35:45] A $500,000 grant from the Utah.
[1:35:49] Outdoor recreation.
[1:35:50] Division.
[1:35:53] That City Council is open to allocating our current.
[1:35:58] Rap tax fund.
[1:36:01] As well as incoming rap tax funds.
[1:36:05] To a specific amount.
[1:36:06] To cover the expenses, to ensure we can build that skate park.
[1:36:10] Pending we received that award.
[1:36:13] Brian, you shared in an e-mail this week your three different.
[1:36:16] Courses of action or plans, AB and C, would you maybe just briefly go over those for the people that are listening?
[1:36:23] Yes, absolutely.
[1:36:25] So with the you are grant there are two different.
[1:36:29] Grant options that we could go for.
[1:36:32] For this skate park.
[1:36:34] The first one is we could go after the regional asset.
[1:36:39] Application.
[1:36:41] That would allow us to get.
[1:36:42] 500,000 and $1.00 to $1 million.
[1:36:49] And the other option would be we do a Tier 1.
[1:36:52] Which we request up to $500,000.
[1:36:58] We're planning to apply for the regional asset.
[1:37:01] Just because that allows us to potentially get.
[1:37:05] More funding to build out the park.
[1:37:10] So we kind of have three options.
[1:37:12] Plan A is that we.
[1:37:14] Include.
[1:37:15] Everything with the skate park.
[1:37:17] All the landscaping.
[1:37:19] Added parking lot.
[1:37:20] With the restroom facility.
[1:37:22] That would mean that the total overall project cost would be.
[1:37:27] 1,372,000.
[1:37:30] $211.78.
[1:37:34] Which means because this grant is a 5050 match, we would.
[1:37:38] Pay for half of that.
[1:37:39] And you work would pay the other half.
[1:37:42] Our Plan B.
[1:37:44] Would be that we take out the restroom facility.
[1:37:47] Which is projected to be about $150,000.
[1:37:53] So that would bring the total cost.
[1:37:56] Let's see each.
[1:37:58] Us and you work would each need to pay 611,000.
[1:38:02] $105.89.
[1:38:05] And then plan C is if we don't get awarded.
[1:38:11] Umm for the regional asset we do have the option to get tier one which is the up to 500,000.
[1:38:18] If that was all we were able to get.
[1:38:21] We would not include a restroom facility.
[1:38:23] And we would need to pay $722,211.78.
[1:38:29] I know that's kind of a lot. I apologize that I'm out of town at a conference today. I appreciate.
[1:38:34] Tony allowing me to jump in on this.
[1:38:37] Any other questions you have with that? Yeah. Can I ask about your Plan A just because of the way it was presented here, maybe I
[1:38:42] got confused and I want to make sure nobody else is confused too. So you said it was?
[1:38:48] 372 million.
[1:38:50] At a 5050 grant.
[1:38:52] Now in that that tier one plan a thing.
[1:38:56] Does that mean that we would be actually 5050 splitting the one point?
[1:39:00] You know, 4 million or is it still just A500500 and the rap tax is paying for the remainder?
[1:39:05] 372,000.
[1:39:10] Let's see for the 1.372 million.
[1:39:14] That you just said that would be a 5050 match, so the city, we would be responsible for just paying half of that amount. So the
[1:39:20] 687 hundred 1105 and $0.89.
[1:39:25] OK, Thank you. Do you have to select which which one you're applying for or is it like a tier where we can?
[1:39:32] Apply for the regional one and if we don't get it, we can still apply for the Tier 1.
[1:39:37] Or we could downgrade our application with this.
[1:39:40] The later often that you just said we apply for the regional and then on the application it asks if we don't get funding, do we
[1:39:44] want to be considered for Tier 1.
[1:39:48] And that's where I put yes, so that we can be considered for both options.
[1:39:52] OK.
[1:39:55] I think we already kind of went over.
[1:39:57] Mathematically, uh.
[1:39:59] The money that we have in the wrap tax currently and the time.
[1:40:02] Over the course of the build.
[1:40:04] Generates enough revenue to still pay for the full.
[1:40:07] Plan a tier one option.
[1:40:10] But then you are committed to using the RAP tax for that.
[1:40:13] For the course of the next year.
[1:40:17] I, oh, keep going.
[1:40:18] Oh, I was just going to ask. So in the in the staffing plan I mentioned we'd have to set aside general fund just as part of the
[1:40:22] application.
[1:40:25] Could we do?
[1:40:26] Essentially a loan to the rap tax where we.
[1:40:28] We'd loan that out, then pay the general fund back.
[1:40:31] Just so is is there a requirement that we have those kind of?
[1:40:34] Funds in hand as we apply for it or no, You just have to write it into the grant, I believe. I don't think you have to move money
[1:40:38] into. That's just.
[1:40:41] Yeah, that's just what the staff report kind of sounded like. So.
[1:40:45] Yes, our application would be stronger if we have all of the money up front.
[1:40:50] But I did verify it with the Rep that he said.
[1:40:54] City Council is willing to.
[1:40:57] Commit with the intention to give RAP tax funds that they're OK with that.
[1:41:00] Right.
[1:41:05] I'd prefer to have the stronger application if we can show that we've got the funds without.
[1:41:11] Yeah, whatever, Whatever makes our application stronger if we get the tier.
[1:41:14] Forget the regional one, we payless money at the end of the day so.
[1:41:17] We need the tax from next year to meet that, that halfway mark. We don't. We don't have enough in that right now.
[1:41:27] I I don't agree with.
[1:41:29] Adding an outdoor.
[1:41:31] Bathroom. I don't.
[1:41:33] To the facility and the reason I don't think it enhances it.
[1:41:37] You have the bathroom right here at the City Council.
[1:41:40] It's open.
[1:41:42] You know, every day, 9:00 to 5:00.
[1:41:44] I don't I.
[1:41:46] In speaking with other.
[1:41:48] Parks, I called.
[1:41:51] And it will be a nuisance and it will be a.
[1:41:55] A collector and it's on a main Rd.
[1:41:58] And it will be.
[1:42:01] The neighbor.
[1:42:02] It's just an issue.
[1:42:04] And having him, the people that go there actually walk across the parking lot to go here isn't that big of a.
[1:42:10] Improvement, uh.
[1:42:11] You know of what? Of what's there?
[1:42:14] And.
[1:42:16] I just heard the.
[1:42:18] Public safety increase.
[1:42:20] With having.
[1:42:21] Having one there.
[1:42:23] And after.
[1:42:24] Listening to other cities.
[1:42:26] Provo removed theirs and closed and.
[1:42:30] They just advised against it.
[1:42:32] Due to issues and problems.
[1:42:35] Had you heard that before?
[1:42:37] I don't know.
[1:42:38] Not specifically about.
[1:42:40] The bathroom bathrooms that are parks tend to get issues.
[1:42:44] I think the only thing when Brian asked me about the bathroom issues.
[1:42:47] The only thing my concern was is.
[1:42:49] These bathrooms are like employees in the city are constantly using these bathrooms so they have an increase in flux. If if the
[1:42:54] skate park is as busy as successful as we want it to be, it may be a burden.
[1:42:59] On this facility, that was my yeah, I'm, I'm an advocate for the restroom. And look, we have restrooms in our parks.
[1:43:06] They're maintained, they're not in bad shape.
[1:43:09] Additionally, what time do people use the skate park, You know, in the evenings and stuff like that, especially in the summer,
[1:43:14] you're going to have people out there until 10:00 PM and then you're, you're barring them from using a bathroom. So you're going
[1:43:19] to have a bunch of dudes just go pee on the tree behind the skate park. And that's not the good look because then you get this
[1:43:24] house behind here that's going to be mad that they're seeing those kids go walk and pee in front of the.
[1:43:29] Their house, you know.
[1:43:31] I think it strengthens our application as a regional asset to to have the bathrooms and show it's great.
[1:43:36] This is a yeah. So what's been our experience with the restrooms we have in the parks right now? Well.
[1:43:40] Both Gammon Park and.
[1:43:43] And Grove Park.
[1:43:44] So we occasionally get graffiti. We've had some damage to them before in the past. I mean, that's typical of a facility like that.
[1:43:50] So we got the sheriff's right next door. Yeah. And I mean, we've had several cases of that. I wouldn't say it's like a constant
[1:43:55] problem. We've had several cases where we've had some damage and mostly it's graffiti. So people, kids paint and stuff on the
[1:43:59] walls.
[1:44:03] And I would imagine that that's as easy to resolve as just painting over it for very cheap.
[1:44:08] Yeah, our Parks Department has taken care of those issues. Any safety issues other than that, just graffiti. Well, I mean.
[1:44:15] So in Grove Park we have had some transient people using our restrooms, which we've had to take care of. I mean, obviously there's
[1:44:20] a potential for drug use to happen in bathrooms.
[1:44:24] Quite often.
[1:44:25] Bathrooms all over the place, doesn't matter if other stars or Mavericks. And there is a potential for that, yes, Yeah.
[1:44:32] I I don't want to label people that go to skate parks as a type, but for whatever given reason they were like.
[1:44:37] I would advise both.
[1:44:39] Call. When I called I was like, oh wow.
[1:44:42] I'd be curious on those ones just.
[1:44:45] We can. Brainstorming is Yeah.
[1:44:46] Where were they located? Were they located right next to us? Right? We are right next door. So I just want.
[1:44:51] But maybe in the design of that got the sheriff's vehicles right outside of the I think you know where we put the the bathroom in
[1:44:56] relation to the the layout and I think and I think the facing of the door of going in and out and facing it towards the sheriff so
[1:45:01] we can see.
[1:45:06] Not that it's around the corner.
[1:45:09] That's one of the things that they said, that this is just, it's going to be a nuisance and the neighbors are going to complain.
[1:45:15] So OK any any discussion on further discussion on 8.2?
[1:45:21] No, hearing none, I will entertain a motion.
[1:45:25] I moved to adopt.
[1:45:26] Resolution 26-13 Allocating funds from the wrap tax.
[1:45:31] For the construction of the Vineyard Skate Park, contingent upon receipt of the 500,000.
[1:45:37] Utah Outdoor Recreation Grant Award.
[1:45:41] 2nd.
[1:45:42] All righty, we'll do roll call on this one. Start over here with Ezra.
[1:45:45] Hi, David. Aye.
[1:45:48] Jacob Wood.
[1:45:49] See on what I.
[1:45:52] Jake Holdoy, aye.
[1:45:53] Parker, uh.
[1:45:54] Hi awesome resolution passes.
[1:45:57] All righty Mayor Stratton, can I make?
[1:45:59] Some clarification on that really quick please.
[1:46:01] Yep, after we voted. Come on, yes.
[1:46:06] Was that?
[1:46:07] Approving to.
[1:46:09] Allocate future rap tax funds or to do.
[1:46:13] The general fund and then have Raptac funds.
[1:46:20] Make up the difference that comes from the general fund, just so I know what to put on the application.
[1:46:24] It's rap tax funds, is how this motion reads. Yeah.
[1:46:28] We're dedicating, yeah.
[1:46:30] We're dedicating the RAP tax fund.
[1:46:33] That means future wrapped expand. There was no general fund associated with this.
[1:46:37] Yeah.
[1:46:38] OK, awesome. Sounds good.
[1:46:42] OK.
[1:46:43] We're going to jump to 8.3 real quick.
[1:46:47] Public hearing about the development agreement of holdaway fields. We are.
[1:46:52] Actively chatting with these guys regarding.
[1:46:55] Fees so.
[1:46:57] If we could.
[1:46:58] If I could get a motion to continue this public hearing.
[1:47:01] It's also, it's not just holdaway fields, but it's also the Ford and intervals, yes. So we could get a motion for all three of
[1:47:06] those for the next Councilman to continue the public hearing.
[1:47:13] 4 hold away fields. The Forge in Intermountain Health.
[1:47:16] Until the City Council meeting on March 24th, 2026.
[1:47:20] Point of point of clarification on.
[1:47:22] Can we?
[1:47:23] Do we have to re notice?
[1:47:26] The hearing, I mean, what's the requirement because we have it posted on the agenda. The original notice that I sent out said we
[1:47:31] would be discussing it at this meeting, but but all the applicants essentially said we're not ready.
[1:47:36] And so we posted it on this agenda saying that we are going to discuss this and now we have a motion to continue it so we no
[1:47:40] longer have to re notice the item.
[1:47:44] Because we're continuing it, correct?
[1:47:46] Yeah, if we were to strike it from the record, then we would re notice and if you want us to or we're more than happy to send out
[1:47:51] mailers again, but just making sure we're staying above the. Absolutely. Thank you.
[1:47:57] Kate, do I have a second to?
[1:47:58] The motion.
[1:48:01] I'll second it.
[1:48:02] Awesome.
[1:48:03] All in favor.
[1:48:04] Aye.
[1:48:05] All right, OK, awesome motion passes.
[1:48:10] Oh, Councilmember Wood.
[1:48:13] How did you vote? I still have to vote even though you're on the phone. Yeah, right. OK, so now we're going to jump back to the
[1:48:17] appointment.
[1:48:22] And that is the last thing on the agenda.
[1:48:24] So how do we?
[1:48:25] Do we?
[1:48:29] How do we do this? Is this a motion to appoint?
[1:48:33] And then?
[1:48:36] Does.
[1:48:39] You could just do it as a.
[1:48:41] Blanket just motion to approve your appointments.
[1:48:45] OK.
[1:48:47] Let's do it. I think that let's let's do 1 by 1 if is that OK?
[1:48:51] And then let me grab. I saw their names here.
[1:49:01] While you do that, I'd like to make.
[1:49:03] Mayor, just make.
[1:49:04] Some comments.
[1:49:05] I.
[1:49:09] Joyfully endorse all three.
[1:49:11] They're great.
[1:49:12] Or they'll do wonderful.
[1:49:14] And while we're waiting, you can.
[1:49:17] Say now, but I thought I'd say that, OK, we're not waiting anymore, let's do this.
[1:49:21] Motion. Let's do motion this one first, then we'll vote. Let's do 1 by 1. Yep. I think it would be most correct if you present
[1:49:26] them. OK, I think you're stand up, send them to the council. Yeah. Do you guys want to? Yeah. All right. No, that is that is a
[1:49:30] very good.
[1:49:35] Do you want to start with 7?
[1:49:37] So let's start with legal counsel. So I present to the Council, Jesse.
[1:49:43] Get this name right.
[1:49:44] Jesse Riddle.
[1:49:46] To serve as our.
[1:49:48] City Attorney.
[1:49:52] I does anyone want to say do we motion that or does he just?
[1:49:57] Present them as an appointment and we vote.
[1:50:06] I make a motion to approve.
[1:50:08] The appointment of legal.
[1:50:10] City Attorney.
[1:50:11] Jesse Riddle.
[1:50:13] OK. Do we have a second for that second?
[1:50:15] OK, let's do a roll call on this one, Jacob Wood.
[1:50:22] Aye, Parker.
[1:50:23] I Jake Holdaway, aye.
[1:50:26] David Lurie.
[1:50:27] I and Ezra.
[1:50:29] No, OK.
[1:50:31] Motion passes.
[1:50:33] All righty. Next we have Evan Smith. I present Evan Smith.
[1:50:38] To serve as our City Finance Director.
[1:50:43] Do I can I get a motion on that?
[1:50:46] So moved OK.
[1:50:48] Do I have a second? Do we need to specify Aye, Tony, or can he say so? Moved. OK, All right.
[1:50:54] Let's do roll call on this one as well. We'll start with Ezra this time. Ezra.
[1:50:57] Aye, David.
[1:50:59] Jacob Aye.
[1:51:00] Jacob.
[1:51:02] Right. OK, There was a point of clarification that we never made.
[1:51:06] Jacob refers to Jacob Wood. Yes, Jake is Jake Holder. That is correct. We voted for that. Thank you for changing my name. The
[1:51:11] Giver to me by my mother. Awesome.
[1:51:16] OK, Motion.
[1:51:19] Carries.
[1:51:21] Last, I present Robin.
[1:51:25] Rainey's bond. How do I is it Raines?
[1:51:27] Rings. Sorry I went to Orem high.
[1:51:31] Not Mountain View, OK.
[1:51:33] So, Robin Bond, that's hard.
[1:51:36] Do you go by Rains Vaughn the whole time?
[1:51:39] I'm usually from funds Robin bond OK, I.
[1:51:43] Present Robin Bond.
[1:51:44] To serve as our city recorder.
[1:51:47] Do I have a second?
[1:51:49] Some, yeah.
[1:51:51] I'll second that motion. OK, awesome.
[1:51:54] OK, awesome.
[1:51:57] Let's do roll call as well. So let's start with Parker I.
[1:52:00] Jake I.
[1:52:02] Jacob.
[1:52:04] Aye, David.
[1:52:06] I and Ezra I.
[1:52:08] OK, motion passes.
[1:52:10] Awesome.
[1:52:11] Now we got this. Do we do the swearing in?
[1:52:16] Do we adjourn and do the swearing in or do we do?
[1:52:19] Swearing in then adjourn.
[1:52:20] Swear in first. That's what I thought. OK.
[1:52:23] All righty, let's swear everybody in Jesse is not here tonight.
[1:52:27] But we.
[1:52:29] I assume we need to have OK, he's he can do.
[1:52:33] All right, sounds good.
[1:52:35] All right, so.
[1:52:37] Can you do it online? Let's do Robin.
[1:52:40] Bring his picture up, maybe. Yeah, right. Do we stand up by the thing? Yeah. Come on down. Let's. Do you have something you
[1:52:43] actually say?
[1:52:48] OK, we'll do Jesse when he is available in person. Sounds good. We'll do Jesse's when he's available in person.
[1:52:54] OK, Robin.
[1:52:55] Let's do this.
[1:52:57] Stand up there by the front, front and center at the mic.
[1:53:00] So do I do this or who does this?
[1:53:05] Tony does it. Hey, All right.
[1:53:07] Don't mess it up.
[1:53:09] You need to read that, why don't you?
[1:53:15] The water pressure, Tony. Oh.
[1:53:21] All right.
[1:53:28] Here we go.
[1:53:29] Stick it in. I'm Robin Reece one.
[1:53:32] Having been appointed as the city recorder.
[1:53:37] Do you solemnly swear?
[1:53:40] But I will support obey.
[1:53:41] But I will support obey.
[1:53:45] Constitution.
[1:53:48] And the constitution of the State.
[1:53:52] Discharge.
[1:53:56] Discharge the duties of my office with fidelity.
[1:53:57] The duties of my office.
[1:54:09] All right, next.
[1:54:11] Evan Smith.
[1:54:12] Come on down, Evan.
[1:54:18] Yes.
[1:54:25] Robin is at Bo India.
[1:54:27] All right.
[1:54:32] Having been appointed as the finance director. Having been appointed as the finance director, solemnly swear.
[1:54:38] Psalms were but I will support the bank defend.
[1:54:42] That will support, obey and.
[1:54:45] The Constitution.
[1:54:48] And the constitution of the state of.
[1:54:52] Discharge.
[1:54:53] Discharge the ease of my office with fidelity.
[1:54:56] Duties.
[1:55:05] And Jesse when he gets.
[1:55:07] Better, yes. Everyone needs backers to say so.
[1:55:10] OK, great. Yeah.
[1:55:12] OK.
[1:55:21] All righty guys.
[1:55:23] With that, we will.
[1:55:25] Adjourn.
[1:55:29] Thank you.
[1:55:30] Doesn't count if you don't hit the mallet. That's right.