1 00:02:46,970 --> 00:02:50,570 Let me all right, let me try one more time. 2 00:02:53,570 --> 00:02:59,770 OK. I think I have you coming in loud and clear. Thank you, Sir. 3 00:10:52,110 --> 00:10:57,630 Alrighty guys, it is March 24th, 60. What do we got Tony? Is it 601? 4 00:10:58,430 --> 00:11:02,710 All right, I am Mayor Zach Stratton and we are going to start with the Vineyard City Council meeting. 5 00:11:03,270 --> 00:11:06,790 I am going to turn the time over to Councilman Mccumber here to give us our opening prayer and Pledge of Allegiance, and we will 6 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:10,310 jump into it. 7 00:11:15,780 --> 00:11:16,880 Our dear heavenly Father. 8 00:11:17,650 --> 00:11:20,800 We thank me so much for this beautiful day. 9 00:11:20,950 --> 00:11:23,070 We're able to come together as a community. 10 00:11:23,470 --> 00:11:25,190 And engage in our civic process. 11 00:11:26,180 --> 00:11:27,140 We ask. 12 00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:30,950 Very plainly. 13 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:32,070 For your hand. 14 00:11:32,390 --> 00:11:36,070 In guiding us and helping us make wise decisions and to serve this community. 15 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,040 I want to express my gratitude. 16 00:11:39,190 --> 00:11:40,350 For the position that you've. 17 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,360 And trusted us in. 18 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,400 To allow us to. 19 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:46,630 Come before our community in an effort. 20 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:47,750 To serve them. 21 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:50,960 And I would very much appreciate. 22 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:53,190 Your guidance and support. 23 00:11:53,310 --> 00:11:54,630 As we continue to. 24 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:55,630 Strive. 25 00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:56,630 In that endeavor. 26 00:11:56,950 --> 00:11:59,670 Can I say this in the name of Jesus Christ? In it Amen. 27 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,440 Would you please recite with me? 28 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:09,350 I pledge allegiance to the flag. 29 00:12:10,950 --> 00:12:12,310 Of the United States of America. 30 00:12:12,990 --> 00:12:15,510 And to the Republic for which it stands. 31 00:12:15,790 --> 00:12:16,470 One nation under God. 32 00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:26,830 OK. Thank you so much. And Parker, you get a. 33 00:12:29,510 --> 00:12:30,550 Way to go buddy. 34 00:12:30,670 --> 00:12:32,230 Where that American flag? 35 00:12:32,590 --> 00:12:33,390 Loud and proud. 36 00:12:33,550 --> 00:12:37,710 OK, we're going to jump into the Mayors report 4.1. 37 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:42,270 A little bit of an explanation kind of what's been happening for the business community. This is me. 38 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:44,270 And the residents of Vineyard as well. 39 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:49,190 In December of last year, there was a fee added called a Toughie Transportation Utility Fee. 40 00:12:49,470 --> 00:12:51,830 And the intent of that was to. 41 00:12:53,070 --> 00:12:58,150 Help in some Rd. projects and stuff like that. Ongoing expense that the city had. 42 00:12:58,350 --> 00:13:01,110 The net effect of that, though, is that the tough fee. 43 00:13:01,830 --> 00:13:04,310 Really. In a? In a? 44 00:13:05,710 --> 00:13:09,590 Non capitalistic way maybe that's a good way to say it really hammered our business community. Some of some of our local 45 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:13,470 businesses on the North End of town the industrials were charging. 46 00:13:13,790 --> 00:13:15,950 5000 Seven, $1000 a month. 47 00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:17,310 Which was more than their. 48 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:18,350 Their monthly rent. 49 00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:21,510 So we've been, I've been working hard with Evan, with. 50 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:24,710 Trying to see what we could do to limit that fee and change it up. 51 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:27,840 What we've settled on is I feel pretty comfortable in. 52 00:13:27,950 --> 00:13:30,150 In eliminating that fee. 53 00:13:30,430 --> 00:13:35,350 And the thought is we're going to go through the budget process maybe a year or two and look at look at what we. 54 00:13:35,870 --> 00:13:38,390 If we can find that revenue in other places. 55 00:13:39,070 --> 00:13:39,590 But. 56 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:43,990 The intent was I was going to sign an executive order, but since it's a utility fee and a transportation fee, we're gonna have to 57 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:47,910 bring that to council next week to lower that or even eliminate it. So we're gonna get Jesse to work on the language for that, and 58 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:51,830 we're gonna have another. 59 00:13:52,110 --> 00:13:53,070 City Council meeting. 60 00:13:53,230 --> 00:13:54,830 Next week to get that taken care of. 61 00:13:55,150 --> 00:13:55,630 But. 62 00:13:55,870 --> 00:13:56,790 This is uh uh. 63 00:13:56,990 --> 00:13:57,510 It's been a. 64 00:13:59,770 --> 00:14:02,120 You know this this fee again. 65 00:14:02,190 --> 00:14:06,240 We just want businesses out there in the community to recognize, hey vineyards, a place we want you come. 66 00:14:06,350 --> 00:14:09,790 We want to grow with us and we want to make sure that there's good alignment. 67 00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:10,910 Between uh. 68 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:13,950 Our tax code and the fee structure and. 69 00:14:14,110 --> 00:14:19,190 In a way that will invite the the business committee to invest their dollars here and come and grow with us. So. 70 00:14:19,310 --> 00:14:21,310 That's that's my report right there on that. 71 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,400 I've got 5.1. We have a presentation. 72 00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:27,270 We have a. 73 00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:28,670 Zach Beatty, Our. 74 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:30,310 Recreation Manager is good. 75 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:32,910 Is and I assume that the. 76 00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:35,270 You are PA folks are here here. Awesome. 77 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:38,710 I'll have you guys come up and kind of explain this is what it is and. 78 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:41,270 How awesome Zach is and how lucky we are to have him. 79 00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:44,870 We love our rec program here in Vineyard and does a great job so. 80 00:14:44,950 --> 00:14:45,550 Thank you. 81 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:47,790 Let's go there, yeah. 82 00:14:49,510 --> 00:14:55,230 Thank you, Mayor and Council. My name is Kevin Schmidt. I'm the executive director for the Okra Recreation Parks District. 83 00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:56,550 Up in the Salt Lake. 84 00:14:56,670 --> 00:14:57,550 County area. 85 00:14:57,710 --> 00:14:59,590 And I'm the president of Europe A. 86 00:15:00,730 --> 00:15:03,730 I'm Michael Christensen. I'm the Assistant Executive Director for URPA. 87 00:15:05,170 --> 00:15:06,520 Thank you for giving us. 88 00:15:06,910 --> 00:15:07,990 Some time today. 89 00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:14,360 URPA, which stands for Utah Recreation and Parks Association, represents about 2000. 90 00:15:14,630 --> 00:15:15,230 Park and Rec. 91 00:15:15,550 --> 00:15:17,710 Professionals in the state of Utah. 92 00:15:18,110 --> 00:15:22,310 And those are the people that are consistently working behind the scenes. 93 00:15:22,390 --> 00:15:23,590 To make. 94 00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:25,190 Your community better. 95 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:29,830 I I want you to picture Vineyard. 96 00:15:30,270 --> 00:15:31,230 Without. 97 00:15:31,470 --> 00:15:32,670 Parks and Recreation. 98 00:15:32,750 --> 00:15:35,630 Without any parts, without playgrounds, with children playing on them. 99 00:15:36,030 --> 00:15:37,790 Without sports programs. 100 00:15:38,030 --> 00:15:38,710 And uh. 101 00:15:38,990 --> 00:15:43,350 I I think we can all agree that that is not the kind of community that. 102 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:44,790 We would want to live in. 103 00:15:47,510 --> 00:15:49,990 Your your park and rec team and and. 104 00:15:50,110 --> 00:15:51,350 Others throughout the state. 105 00:15:51,630 --> 00:15:53,270 Work tirelessly to. 106 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:55,230 Make sure that these. 107 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:56,950 Programs and events happen. 108 00:15:59,550 --> 00:16:04,240 They do a lot more than just manage facilities and organized sports programs. 109 00:16:04,910 --> 00:16:06,910 Their work helps to shape. 110 00:16:07,790 --> 00:16:10,350 The kind of community that people want to actually live in. 111 00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:12,200 So thank you to. 112 00:16:13,230 --> 00:16:15,550 You mayor and council for supporting. 113 00:16:15,950 --> 00:16:16,790 The Park and Rec. 114 00:16:16,910 --> 00:16:18,430 Department in your city. 115 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:22,670 I'm going to turn the time over to Mikel to present. 116 00:16:23,630 --> 00:16:28,590 Awesome. We are so excited to be here tonight and thanks so much for having us. We actually get to recognize two of your 117 00:16:28,590 --> 00:16:33,550 outstanding Parks and Recreation professionals. The first one is actually Ben King. 118 00:16:33,790 --> 00:16:38,870 Ben has been part of our URPA Leadership Academy for the last 12 months. So thank you for your support and him doing that. 119 00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:43,950 Basically what that entailed was him going to other agencies across the state for the last 12 months and learning all he could 120 00:16:43,950 --> 00:16:49,030 from that. So he has graduated from that program. And so we just want to recognize that he has done that. So have him come up in 121 00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:54,110 just a second. And then the second profession I already mentioned, Zach. 122 00:16:54,670 --> 00:17:00,362 Every year we solicit nominations for awards for different categories throughout the state. One of those categories is Outstanding 123 00:17:00,362 --> 00:17:06,054 Professional. We recognize that in a variety of capacities, recreation, Aquatics, different things like that. This year we had 124 00:17:06,054 --> 00:17:11,746 over 100 applicants for those various awards and Zach was selected for our Young Professional of the Year. So if you know Zach, 125 00:17:11,746 --> 00:17:17,438 you know he has a huge passion for working in Parks and Recreation. 126 00:17:17,710 --> 00:17:21,910 Does really well at giving back to his community and since he started here in Vineyard a short time ago. 127 00:17:22,270 --> 00:17:26,570 It's our understanding that your guys's programs and races and different community events have grown exponentially, and so we're 128 00:17:26,570 --> 00:17:30,870 just super thrilled for him and the work he's doing. 129 00:17:31,070 --> 00:17:33,600 He's very involved with URPA. He is. 130 00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:38,770 In our central region, he is actually the elect to be the president of that region. So we just want to thank you guys for 131 00:17:38,770 --> 00:17:43,790 supporting him and supporting Parks and Recreation throughout Utah, being a great example of what communities can build. 132 00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:48,390 And yeah, just thanks Vineyard, and thanks to Zach and Ben. 133 00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:50,470 Awesome, I'll have them come up and grab this. 134 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:52,110 Awesome. 135 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:54,790 Let's give a round of applause. Let it go, guys. 136 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,920 Do you want to should we jump in a picture with them? Let's get a picture with these guys. This is actually this is way cool more 137 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,440 so. 138 00:18:03,670 --> 00:18:04,270 Yes. 139 00:18:07,070 --> 00:18:10,750 Brian come up. Yeah, Brian's got to be in the engineer. Brian's really cool too. 140 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:11,430 Yeah. 141 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Next year. 142 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:29,230 Hello. There we go. OK, ready. 143 00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:32,030 OK, ready 12. 144 00:18:32,830 --> 00:18:34,190 Thanks. Perfect. 145 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:52,030 All righty. 146 00:18:53,970 --> 00:18:56,520 Let's jump now to I had public comments here, but. 147 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:57,230 Let me. 148 00:18:57,470 --> 00:19:00,350 Raise your hand up here to talk about you have a public comment. 149 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,800 OK, let's do this. 150 00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:05,350 I assume without parking I'm going to take a wild guess. 151 00:19:06,030 --> 00:19:10,630 OK. Let's go through a couple other things. We'll kind of get closer to that so we can have the. 152 00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:12,790 The public comment and all that more. 153 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:13,750 In a little more. 154 00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:15,110 Coherent manner. 155 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:18,560 OK, so I'm going to turn the time we're gonna we need to move into a public hearing now. 156 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:21,640 To go over the Forest development agreement and the IHC development agreement. 157 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:23,190 Can I get a motion for that? 158 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:26,480 So moved I second. 159 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:30,230 All in favor. 160 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:32,710 Aye. Motion passes. 161 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:34,990 We're going to turn the time over to cash. 162 00:19:35,390 --> 00:19:38,510 The lead out in this session, go ahead. Thank you for your time. 163 00:19:39,870 --> 00:19:45,910 Once this opens up here I have the Forge and Intermountain Healthcare. I have a single presentation here because these. 164 00:19:46,190 --> 00:19:47,390 Development agreements are. 165 00:19:47,550 --> 00:19:48,910 Pretty tied together. 166 00:19:49,670 --> 00:19:52,990 And so we do have Ryan with representing Intermountain Health and then Jason representing 6th Rich Partners, formerly Dakota 167 00:19:52,990 --> 00:19:56,310 Pacific. 168 00:19:56,830 --> 00:19:58,910 On this these development agreements so. 169 00:19:59,590 --> 00:20:06,040 Quick background here on the Forge, this is in 2024. There was a development agreement signed by the City Council. 170 00:20:06,350 --> 00:20:07,790 With six rich partners. 171 00:20:08,510 --> 00:20:11,230 To allow them to build but they. 172 00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:15,190 There were some requirements about like a regionally significant entertainment anchor. 173 00:20:16,510 --> 00:20:18,990 Anyways, it's a 45 acre development. 174 00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:20,150 That includes in around. 175 00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:21,230 Healthcare property. 176 00:20:21,670 --> 00:20:24,390 They currently have 1100 residential units permitted. This development agreement does not change that number, does not increase 177 00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:27,110 it. 178 00:20:27,780 --> 00:20:33,380 And it does require this this DA required that this regionally significant entertainment use. 179 00:20:33,620 --> 00:20:35,580 Was part of the first phase. 180 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:41,800 And so we've been working. Here's a map to kind of show you outlined in red is, is the proposed 6 rich partners the 4th project 181 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:47,900 And then in blue would be Intermountain Health if, if these development agreements go through currently. 182 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,220 And around only. 183 00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:51,220 Owns the southern parcel. 184 00:20:51,740 --> 00:20:52,340 So. 185 00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:56,100 Let me go to. 186 00:20:56,620 --> 00:21:00,860 Here's the request that that they're looking for here, and this is specifically for the Forge. 187 00:21:01,220 --> 00:21:06,060 They've been having a difficult time landing a regionally significant entertainment anchor. 188 00:21:06,460 --> 00:21:07,500 And So what they're. 189 00:21:07,580 --> 00:21:09,420 Trying to propose here is to. 190 00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:13,540 Bring in their first phase 40,000 square feet of. 191 00:21:13,980 --> 00:21:14,740 Commercial. 192 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:16,460 Which would then allow them to. 193 00:21:16,540 --> 00:21:18,180 Move on to build the residential. 194 00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:24,420 And it would also relocate the first phase and the the regionally significant anchor if I go back to this map here. 195 00:21:24,860 --> 00:21:30,060 It would move the commercial block to the the northwest corner of Vineyard Connector and Mill Rd. 196 00:21:30,460 --> 00:21:34,420 So that's where they build this commercial space, and then they'd move the entertainment anchor. 197 00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:35,940 Further South on Mill Rd. 198 00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:40,140 Whereas currently it requires the entertainment to be on the corner in commercial. 199 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:41,260 Little bit further shell. 200 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:49,560 Last week we did have a Planning Commission. They they did recommend approval of this development agreement. 201 00:21:50,420 --> 00:21:53,740 The other thing to note is the Planning Commission would be come the. 202 00:21:54,340 --> 00:22:00,300 Approval body for the entertainment anchor the the IT has a very specific language in our code on what? 203 00:22:00,420 --> 00:22:05,260 This anchor must be and it's up to the Planning Commission. Previously, they did approve a climbing gym. 204 00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:06,750 To be the thinker. There there were. 205 00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:09,940 Installed in those negotiations. So that's not coming about anymore. 206 00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:12,990 But it would continue to let the Planning Commission be that approval body. 207 00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:18,910 And then the last thing is roadway and utilities as they were built, I believe in 2018. 208 00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:25,020 Our city engineering department just wants to make sure that this roadway and the utilities going to the site are not going to be. 209 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:26,700 Heavily impacted and they'll. 210 00:22:26,860 --> 00:22:32,900 You know, be able to be used in these city roads like 650 N that borders the yard and the forge. 211 00:22:33,460 --> 00:22:36,420 Is built back to its its current state before construction. 212 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:40,700 And then we we did update the development agreement with our. 213 00:22:41,220 --> 00:22:45,500 New language for impact fees to make sure that impact fees are calculated at the time of building permit. 214 00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:49,100 If we want, we could take a break there and. 215 00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:53,160 If there's any questions about the forge specifically, we can go over those or I can fly through and let's do that. Council. Any 216 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,700 questions on the Forge development agreement? 217 00:22:57,860 --> 00:23:02,620 Did they have any concerns about the entertainment acre being in the phase one? I know. 218 00:23:03,020 --> 00:23:04,860 Previously they were having some trouble. 219 00:23:04,940 --> 00:23:09,447 Like getting the development off the ground because of that. Yeah. So this would move the entertainment anchor to not be the phase 220 00:23:09,447 --> 00:23:13,954 one anymore. This would be the the new phase one is 40,000 square feet of retail commercial space on that corner and the anytime 221 00:23:13,954 --> 00:23:18,461 they could bring that that entertainment anchor. 222 00:23:18,580 --> 00:23:22,020 You know, one comes from the day we want to build that. They could go for it, but. 223 00:23:22,620 --> 00:23:27,390 Essentially they they're saying they need to get this commercial and residential going before they can get. 224 00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:28,500 Movement on this. 225 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:30,700 Entertainment if no. 226 00:23:31,260 --> 00:23:31,980 If no. 227 00:23:33,260 --> 00:23:35,380 And then it comes forward before that. 228 00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:38,820 You know, before they build all those things, what what phases that came in. 229 00:23:38,980 --> 00:23:41,860 The entertainment anchor the entertainment it would just be. 230 00:23:41,980 --> 00:23:46,220 After phase one, anything after phase one, I see. So there's no guarantee we'll ever get it then? 231 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:51,260 So the the development agreement still outlines a block and acreage that is required for the. 232 00:23:51,380 --> 00:23:52,660 I can go back to this map here. 233 00:23:53,220 --> 00:23:56,980 Is there anything they cannot get pool pool permits for or anything be? 234 00:23:57,180 --> 00:23:57,980 Unless that. 235 00:23:58,380 --> 00:24:01,100 No, so they could pull everything out first. 236 00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:03,940 That's the last thing I felt her hands and gosh, we're sorry. Couldn't do it. 237 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:07,620 Yeah, essentially they, I mean they, they would not, they have to reserve that. 238 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:10,420 Many acres of land for the entertainment use so they could. 239 00:24:10,540 --> 00:24:12,100 Nothing gets built there. 240 00:24:12,340 --> 00:24:15,820 But potentially. But in return we are getting 40,000 square feet of. 241 00:24:15,940 --> 00:24:17,740 The the retail commercial space. 242 00:24:17,980 --> 00:24:21,780 So that's essentially the trade off. They're saying here's right now, we can't land this this. 243 00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:24,260 Anchor so if we want to get moving with development. 244 00:24:24,420 --> 00:24:30,100 We need to bring in something else 1st and that's where we've been talking and landed on 40,000 square feet of. 245 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:31,220 Of commercial space. 246 00:24:31,940 --> 00:24:34,460 Also, when we swap the land from the. 247 00:24:34,660 --> 00:24:36,740 Entertainment maker from the north to the South? Sure. 248 00:24:37,260 --> 00:24:39,180 Do we have the same amount of land in both? 249 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:41,020 Both no SO. 250 00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:42,140 The the original. 251 00:24:42,220 --> 00:24:43,580 Development agreement language. 252 00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:47,725 Just outlined I think it said four point something 4.7 acres which is that entire block and and no entertainment anchor would 253 00:24:47,725 --> 00:24:51,790 actually take up that entire space. 254 00:24:52,220 --> 00:24:53,100 And so it was just. 255 00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:56,460 The the new language says 3 point something acres. 256 00:24:57,020 --> 00:25:00,060 Just to essentially outline the southern block. 257 00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:03,700 But something like the we had the the Momentum climbing gym, they were approved. 258 00:25:03,860 --> 00:25:05,900 They were nowhere near the you know, 3. 259 00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:10,660 Or 4 acre project, but we did determine that they were regionally significant enough. 260 00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:14,740 And it wasn't necessarily the size, it's more of the impact and are people coming from outside of Vineyard to Vineyard to spend 261 00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:17,780 their money here? 262 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:20,060 That's essentially what we're looking at with this anchor. 263 00:25:22,050 --> 00:25:25,930 I'm very much interested in having this this land developed and then getting the. 264 00:25:26,260 --> 00:25:27,700 I didn't. I really. I really AM. 265 00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:29,620 But I'm also concerned that. 266 00:25:29,780 --> 00:25:31,380 We've had many promises. 267 00:25:31,620 --> 00:25:32,660 For this piece of land. 268 00:25:32,820 --> 00:25:34,220 Over the last couple of decades. 269 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:35,660 And nothing is there yet. 270 00:25:36,260 --> 00:25:39,740 And we've always, there's always a reason and we come across this. 271 00:25:39,860 --> 00:25:41,340 This problem or that problem? 272 00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:42,740 And so I'm. 273 00:25:43,140 --> 00:25:44,740 I'm just not comfortable. 274 00:25:45,020 --> 00:25:51,660 Hold, you know, leaving that to the very end because that's something they can put off to the end. That's worked well. 275 00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:53,540 It's not financially peaceful at the. 276 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:56,620 They can do like they've done for the last 10 years and not build anything. 277 00:25:56,780 --> 00:26:01,425 It might be worth having Jason speak to their their efforts in in trying to attract regionally significant anchor. They they 278 00:26:01,425 --> 00:26:06,070 definitely have have been trying over the last few years. 279 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:07,420 And I don't know. 280 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:08,460 If you want to hear from him. 281 00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:12,020 Yeah. Jason, do you want to kind of review that? Please come on up. 282 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:14,620 If you set your name in the mic, that'd be awesome. 283 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:17,500 Jason Head with six Bridge partners and. 284 00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:19,820 Thank you for having me here today. Thanks for coming. 285 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:23,900 This might be obvious, but. 286 00:26:23,980 --> 00:26:27,700 Land we can't build on doesn't do us any good for developers and we want to build. 287 00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:28,980 All of this land. 288 00:26:29,820 --> 00:26:31,270 We intend to find. 289 00:26:31,660 --> 00:26:33,140 Regionally significant anchor. 290 00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:35,870 For this site and and for the community. 291 00:26:36,020 --> 00:26:39,980 It's just a much, much bigger hurdle than it is for us to. 292 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,380 Find tenants for 40,000 square feet of Upscale. 293 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:47,020 Retail that will have. 294 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:50,260 Boutique restaurants and soft goods and things that really. 295 00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:51,460 Energized. 296 00:26:52,340 --> 00:26:54,300 This corner, especially this. 297 00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:58,100 This corner is going to be a big demand for those types of users. 298 00:26:58,460 --> 00:27:00,980 So we absolutely continue to work on. 299 00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:02,820 Originally significant anchor. 300 00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:05,260 Some of the challenges we face are. 301 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:06,460 You know many. 302 00:27:06,820 --> 00:27:08,100 Frankly, rely on. 303 00:27:08,580 --> 00:27:11,980 Alcohol sales and that's been a tough hurdle to educate. 304 00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:13,660 Some groups on. 305 00:27:14,140 --> 00:27:15,820 We did have a climbing gym. Who? 306 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:19,780 Frankly, took it to their board and then backed out at the last minute and that was just. 307 00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:22,460 Mostly, I think a timing we intend to. 308 00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:24,380 Reignite those. 309 00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:26,100 Conversations with that user. 310 00:27:27,340 --> 00:27:29,100 But we're still very bullish. 311 00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:31,100 That user, it's just. 312 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,840 It it's holding up development of. 313 00:27:34,930 --> 00:27:36,190 All of that acreage. 314 00:27:36,460 --> 00:27:39,220 So how many pages are there in the new agreement? 315 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,340 Here's the phase one or the phase two lasting phase three. How many phases? 316 00:27:44,670 --> 00:27:45,830 Well, I think there's just. 317 00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:49,540 Yeah. We, we initially just have phase one. This is saying. 318 00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:52,140 Before you can build anything else, you need to build phase one. 319 00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:53,100 Outside of that. 320 00:27:53,260 --> 00:27:54,460 Once you, you know. 321 00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:56,340 Built that phase you can build. 322 00:27:56,420 --> 00:27:57,180 Whatever else. 323 00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:03,120 So the trigger is we we have to have at least 20,000 square feet of that retail under construction before we can pull a permit on 324 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:07,020 any residential units. 325 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,960 I think my issue is is that. 326 00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:18,500 Originally we did a trade off of density. Like lots of density in exchange. I mean, it was a whole package, right? 327 00:28:18,580 --> 00:28:22,380 So not guaranteeing the entertainment you start getting the density. 328 00:28:22,780 --> 00:28:26,260 So what would you be willing to trade? Because we're giving up a really big. 329 00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:29,660 This is going to have a great regional attraction there. 330 00:28:29,860 --> 00:28:33,980 Are you willing to give up some density for that? Because you're getting all of the good but? 331 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:35,980 What are we getting in exchange? 332 00:28:36,940 --> 00:28:38,420 You're getting tax revenue sooner. 333 00:28:38,540 --> 00:28:45,780 Right. And I get that, but like the the anger from all the citizens was the amount of density that you were given with us. 334 00:28:46,460 --> 00:28:48,340 I I will speak up on that just briefly. 335 00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:52,260 The the original or the development agreement was signed in in 2024. There there was no trade off then of the density. No, I know 336 00:28:52,260 --> 00:28:56,060 I'm saying originally. 337 00:28:56,180 --> 00:29:00,160 Right, that's what I'm saying is the regional entertainment anchor that became a novel a requirement as of 2024 with no increased 338 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,140 identity. 339 00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:10,240 I'm going back years, right. So about accountability going, but that's what is that was a new idea was to bring this regional 340 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,820 incident significant but there were other trade-offs in that whole package as I look back through the contracts. 341 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:18,700 That's what I'm saying is like, this is a big carry on top. 342 00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:19,740 And it's like. 343 00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:24,940 I get that we want businesses and it is. You're right, you don't want it to stop and we need to lower taxes. But. 344 00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:28,660 I see the citizens coming and saying, OK, we're not going to get that, but the. 345 00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:30,380 Density stays the same. 346 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:31,580 Point of clarification. 347 00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:36,230 From what I understand about this proposal, this this change of the development agreement, it's not is it getting rid of the 348 00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:40,800 entertainment district completely? No, it you know, it keeps it, it's just a it's a phasing, OK, Yeah, it's just a phasing issue 349 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,370 where the guarantee that it takes away the yes, the guarantee. So it's like can we put in some sort of guarantee that if it 350 00:29:45,370 --> 00:29:49,940 doesn't come. 351 00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:55,540 The last phase you can't build the residential until X, so at least it's. 352 00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:59,820 On the sour end side of things that people don't like, it goes OK. 353 00:30:00,260 --> 00:30:04,340 Before you build this residential I would at least like that type of trade off. 354 00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:06,260 Something that pushes it to. 355 00:30:06,420 --> 00:30:08,580 To maintain the fighting because of it all. 356 00:30:08,740 --> 00:30:11,620 Fills out. You just have one remnant law, and I know what that means. It means coming back to the Council and changing it to 357 00:30:11,620 --> 00:30:14,500 something else. 358 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,190 You know, you have to understand, we really do. 359 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:22,460 We want to understand, we want it to be built redo. 360 00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:24,620 We have been burned a lot in the past. 361 00:30:24,860 --> 00:30:26,660 And we might not be burned again. 362 00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:30,140 Sure, I mean the the density overall. 363 00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:32,220 Hasn't changed, it's just the sequencing. 364 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:36,180 I mean, in fact, we're also making other. 365 00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:39,500 Concessions here. I mean, there's the language in the original. 366 00:30:39,820 --> 00:30:42,220 DA can be interpreted that. 367 00:30:42,860 --> 00:30:44,620 Impact fees are based on when they. 368 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:47,580 Development agreement was originally executed not based on. 369 00:30:47,740 --> 00:30:49,540 Then in place. 370 00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,420 Impacts when we were. 371 00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:53,020 When we pull permits. 372 00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:55,700 And that has been cleaned up in this agreement as well. So now. 373 00:30:56,620 --> 00:30:59,020 Exposed to a higher level of impact. Positive, yeah. 374 00:30:59,260 --> 00:31:01,940 Yeah. Any other questions? 375 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,310 On this one. 376 00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:06,220 OK, should we jump into? 377 00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:09,100 Yeah. Thank you very much. 378 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,750 Thank you. 379 00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:14,500 OK. So Intermountain Health, they're looking to consolidate the existing. 380 00:31:14,780 --> 00:31:18,660 Lot that they have with the corner of Geneva and Vineyard Connector. So going back to here. 381 00:31:18,860 --> 00:31:20,220 And we can see that they are. 382 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:23,380 Wanting those two lots if you want, and in doing so. 383 00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:26,900 It will remove the the eastern connection of Cauldron Rd. So that's one thing in the development agreement they don't want to have 384 00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:30,340 to have their their project be. 385 00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:32,020 Bisected by that road. 386 00:31:34,210 --> 00:31:37,390 It does require an iconic architectural feature at the corner of. 387 00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:42,790 Of Vineyard Connector in Geneva we as staff, we felt that this is a very important gateway for the community and. 388 00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:47,640 And the design standards of the forge were very strict and would have required a very iconic building to be built there, but with 389 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,340 Intermountain Health wanting to do a clinic or a hospital. 390 00:31:52,420 --> 00:31:56,100 That kind of changes that. And so we have language here that says that they have to. 391 00:31:56,260 --> 00:32:00,500 Develop that corner in an iconic way that will come through approval at site. 392 00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:02,100 Find application time. 393 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:05,980 It changes to allow medical use throughout the site. 394 00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:08,300 As of right now, I don't believe it's a permitted use. 395 00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:16,500 It includes modifications to the FMU. So that's the Forge mixed-use design guidelines. The forge is its own special. 396 00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:20,900 Zoning district that has very strict design guidelines on. 397 00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:23,860 Have a building fronts the road on where the parking is located. 398 00:32:24,580 --> 00:32:27,100 But after discussions with Intermountain Health. 399 00:32:27,180 --> 00:32:30,400 We've determined that this is a hospital and this is one of those things where function should be over form and we want to make 400 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,620 sure that they can operate. 401 00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:37,220 Smoothly as a hospital and people are able to get the care that they need. 402 00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:38,180 When they need it. 403 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:43,220 And so it has those modifications and then as well as the roadway utilities and. 404 00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:46,060 Impact fee changes to the development agreement. 405 00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:47,830 So that is. 406 00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:49,100 It from the. 407 00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:50,700 The mountain Health. 408 00:32:50,980 --> 00:32:52,700 Awesome, any questions from council on IHC? 409 00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:55,660 DA amendments. 410 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,510 Are we collecting all impact fees live? They're not something that was tied in years ago. 411 00:33:02,180 --> 00:33:05,020 So that's the updated language. We've worked with Jesse Riddle on on updating the language that says at the time of building 412 00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:07,860 permit. 413 00:33:08,020 --> 00:33:09,740 Is when we will calculate impact fees. 414 00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:14,100 So if I see losing. 415 00:33:14,540 --> 00:33:18,220 That means that there will be like there'll be a non profit that we won't ever get. 416 00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:20,460 Sales tax rate, Income tax. 417 00:33:21,060 --> 00:33:22,180 Property tax them, is that right? 418 00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:25,620 I might yield to Jason or to Ryan to answer that. 419 00:33:27,010 --> 00:33:28,030 Now we won't get in. 420 00:33:31,810 --> 00:33:32,250 Hey, Sir. 421 00:33:32,740 --> 00:33:34,700 Ryan Wallace, representing Intermittent. 422 00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:39,870 Intermountain Healthcare. I'm not a tax attorney so I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe that's. 423 00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:44,500 That would be correct. It's at least as it relates to real property taxes, Um. 424 00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:47,020 If they have a. 425 00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:52,740 Businesses and clinics that operate out of the medical office buildings those. 426 00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:54,420 Activities may be taxed. 427 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,660 Once again, I'm not entirely sure how that. 428 00:33:56,740 --> 00:33:57,620 That works. 429 00:33:57,740 --> 00:34:00,710 But yeah, it wouldn't be taxed at the same level. 430 00:34:00,820 --> 00:34:02,900 As if it were retail or other commercial. 431 00:34:05,060 --> 00:34:05,780 I thank you. 432 00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:09,860 Thank you. I mean no disrespect to your project. 433 00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:11,460 With this question but. 434 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,790 Because other products come and say they're going to be built like. 435 00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:19,100 Are you building like you're ready to go build now? 436 00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:22,460 Or is it are you? Is this a phase thing like in two or three years? 437 00:34:22,820 --> 00:34:23,740 Yeah, and it. 438 00:34:23,940 --> 00:34:25,700 It'll be phased. Umm. 439 00:34:25,780 --> 00:34:29,660 They have the current property which would limit it just to clinic space. 440 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:37,220 They're expanding it so that we have the flexibility to do medical office clinics based and potentially later a hospital. 441 00:34:37,820 --> 00:34:38,870 So this. 442 00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:41,390 Because we currently own that southern property. 443 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:45,900 Don't own the northern property and that's really since we haven't acquired the property and we're still. 444 00:34:46,140 --> 00:34:51,460 Determining feasibility. There's still work that would need to be done to design and then build. 445 00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:57,360 But I do know that that's part of their long term plan for the property, hence them wanting to get additional property so that 446 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,460 they could do not just the the potential medical office building or clinic, but. 447 00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:03,540 Potentially more. 448 00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:07,140 OK. This isn't a question. Thanks. I don't have a question. 449 00:35:07,980 --> 00:35:11,110 If it ends up not happening, what does it do? Revert back? 450 00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:15,540 If they don't end up building, if yeah they the cell doesn't end up going through after the study or whatnot, does it? Does the 451 00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:19,180 zoning stay the same? 452 00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:22,860 I mean it would be their their ownership and the development would be signed and reported, right? But what if what if they don't 453 00:35:22,860 --> 00:35:26,340 buy? Is this pendant on sell? 454 00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:28,940 I am not sure on that. 455 00:35:29,890 --> 00:35:32,090 Yeah, we can. We can make it that way if the. 456 00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:33,780 That's what the city wants is. 457 00:35:34,180 --> 00:35:37,500 But I can tell you this was kind of the last bit and then our money is hard and then we'll be purchasing within weeks after it, 458 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,820 so. 459 00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:46,700 Yeah, I I just It's not you again. I have a room full of Washtenaw and people have broken promises. 460 00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:49,580 I feel like you always have to ask like. 461 00:35:50,020 --> 00:35:52,300 You know, from developers or whatnot. So. 462 00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:58,500 I think it needs to be dependent on that. Like that it would revert back like pending on the cell. 463 00:35:58,580 --> 00:35:59,180 Right. 464 00:35:59,660 --> 00:36:02,460 We could work on language to add that as a condition of approval. 465 00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:04,180 I mean, I'm not saying it wouldn't, but just. 466 00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:05,580 So that the code goes. 467 00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:08,020 Yeah, I am. 468 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,620 The way I do like your comment about. 469 00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:12,220 Nonprofit. 470 00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:15,100 Because our RDA is. 471 00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:17,830 It's not being sold like it was, right? 472 00:36:18,460 --> 00:36:21,100 From 25 years ago, it's not producing the tax revenue. 473 00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:28,340 And it's not successful as what it was, right? We've already given a bunch of it to the university. It will be nonprofit. 474 00:36:28,620 --> 00:36:31,300 And you know, and so forth and so on, and you get the. 475 00:36:31,540 --> 00:36:33,300 At some point it does have to. 476 00:36:33,460 --> 00:36:35,820 In the role it was designed to, which is to help us. 477 00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:38,020 Have a sales tax base that we can. 478 00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:39,100 That he can thrive on. 479 00:36:40,660 --> 00:36:44,180 We appreciate very much if you'd like to go there and we'd like to have you there. 480 00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:47,780 We just need to make sure that we can structure it so that it works for us as well. 481 00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:53,100 Awesome. Any other questions, Comments from council? 482 00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:57,940 OK, seeing none, I will entertain a motion. 483 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,860 It was a public hearing. I moved to public hearing. 484 00:37:05,860 --> 00:37:09,300 Do we need to close the pull up hearing first? Do we open it already? 485 00:37:09,740 --> 00:37:12,900 You open the public hearing, but there's been no comment yet from the public. 486 00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:14,420 OK, Yeah. 487 00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:17,460 Does anyone want to speak to this development agreement? 488 00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:21,860 Yeah, I moved to close. 489 00:37:22,910 --> 00:37:27,310 I thought we had to close it. 490 00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:28,300 Go ahead. 491 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:30,940 It's OK, I'll deal with him later. 492 00:37:31,980 --> 00:37:34,340 Thank you, Kim Cornelius Villas. 493 00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:39,220 This has been a perpetual project. We've been in town almost five years now and. 494 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:42,105 For the better part of those five years, all we've heard is the board is going to be the forge is going to be developed, going to 495 00:37:42,105 --> 00:37:44,910 be developed. 496 00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:51,500 Major portion of that was parking and I can tell by those that are in attendance tonight, the parking is a big deal in Vineyard. 497 00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:57,780 Can we get some kind of really quick synopsis of what this whole project including IC and? 498 00:37:58,180 --> 00:38:00,060 And the developer of the forge. 499 00:38:00,460 --> 00:38:03,580 Because they were talking about a parking garage. That sounded pretty good. 500 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:06,500 Helped mitigate some things we'd just like to know going in. 501 00:38:06,740 --> 00:38:08,100 As they need that changed. 502 00:38:08,260 --> 00:38:09,740 Could you give us a summary of it? 503 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:11,580 Awesome. Good question. 504 00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:12,940 Another public comments. 505 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,230 OK. Who would you be able to answer that? 506 00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:18,380 Cash or one of the. 507 00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:22,900 I mean, this development agreement makes no changes, no increase or decrease to their parking requirements. It would take me a 508 00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:27,020 minute to pull up the actual parking code. I imagine with Intermountain Health they're actually going to have a surplus of 509 00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:31,140 parking. Of what? 510 00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:32,300 The forge would have built. 511 00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:37,420 That's one of the design guidelines that they're asking to be changed, just not be helped to the. 512 00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:39,260 The lower count that the forge would. 513 00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:40,100 For Intermountain. 514 00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:46,740 It's my understanding that these are all rentals too, right? So I believe they can build. I want to say it's 1075. 515 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:48,500 1075 units. 516 00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:52,540 As rentals and if they want to go to the 1100 they could do 25. 517 00:38:52,660 --> 00:38:53,700 4 shell units. 518 00:38:54,590 --> 00:38:54,750 OK. 519 00:38:58,900 --> 00:38:59,860 Yeah, please come on up. 520 00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:03,260 Jason had 6 bridge partners. 521 00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:05,990 With the multi family 1 and Buzzy. 522 00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:07,260 Get built. We will build. 523 00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:10,060 Parking structures with that building permit that. 524 00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:14,340 Accommodate adequate parking for those users and then same with the retail I mean we'll we'll. 525 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:15,100 Provide enough. 526 00:39:15,460 --> 00:39:17,540 Parking per code and. 527 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:20,380 Maybe then some depending upon what the use ends up being. 528 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:24,140 OK. And real quick about that parking. 529 00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:28,740 Last time we, last time we spoke about this in the meeting, you, you were saying that. 530 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:31,740 Representative, listen you, I'm not sure what. 531 00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:36,180 OK, was saying that they would, the parking garage would be there, it would be controlled parking. 532 00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:39,780 Every control gate and only a residence be able to park in the garage. 533 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:40,900 So forth. 534 00:39:41,060 --> 00:39:44,060 That's correct. And so roughly how many? 535 00:39:44,140 --> 00:39:46,500 You and the Do you remember how many spaces per? 536 00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:47,580 Unit you were thinking? 537 00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:49,620 I don't know off the top of my head. 538 00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:55,220 OK, the code is 1.5 stalls per residential dwelling unit. 539 00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:02,380 For every two for every two units you get 3 salts. 540 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,820 Yeah, yeah. It's just part of our calculation. So basically. 541 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:09,700 You know, one follow you gave us one follow you to fight for the second one. 542 00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:11,260 This one amounts to it. 543 00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:11,940 Yeah. 544 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:15,520 Public knowledge that's already grandfathered and there's nothing we can do about that. That was the previous council from five 545 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,380 years ago. 546 00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:20,860 If we could find it, we would just say, you know. 547 00:40:23,330 --> 00:40:24,610 But legally, we if. 548 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:27,380 It's agreed upon already in the contract. 549 00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:30,710 OK. OK. Any other questions? 550 00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:33,180 OK. Oh. 551 00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:36,500 Come on down. 552 00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:42,100 My name is Tyler Harrelton. 553 00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:46,070 I don't know if this is a zoning or development agreement issue. 554 00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:47,620 But I would love to see. 555 00:40:48,020 --> 00:40:49,380 With this development that. 556 00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:52,350 You don't have driveways going straight on the 800 N. 557 00:40:53,260 --> 00:40:56,740 I think that would create a lot of conflict. I don't know if that's already part of it. 558 00:40:58,140 --> 00:40:59,460 As an exit as all. 559 00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:02,380 Yeah, it dumped into. Oh yeah. 560 00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:03,500 Yeah, just so. 561 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:06,060 OK, awesome. 562 00:41:06,140 --> 00:41:07,020 Any other comments? 563 00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:09,940 OK, alrighty. 564 00:41:11,290 --> 00:41:13,070 I will entertain an emotion. 565 00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:13,580 Now. 566 00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:19,900 I'll do it. I move to close the public hearing. 567 00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:20,620 Awesome. Umm. 568 00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:23,540 At exactly 638. 569 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:24,940 Perfect. 570 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:26,580 Do I have a second? 571 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:29,980 2nd but I think it's 632. 572 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:31,540 Oh, sorry. 573 00:41:32,020 --> 00:41:32,220 Yeah. 574 00:41:34,180 --> 00:41:36,900 Thank you for that clarification. All righty, all in favor. 575 00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:42,180 Aye. Motion passes at 632. OK. 576 00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:43,620 All right, let's umm. 577 00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:47,620 I'll do it. We'll do a motion now on the. 578 00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:49,940 Development agreements. 579 00:41:52,340 --> 00:41:53,670 Can I get a motion on those? 580 00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:59,700 I think we should separate them out, so I moved to approve and amend the development agreement of. 581 00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:04,790 The Internet. Eminem Mountain Health at 7.2 as. 582 00:42:04,980 --> 00:42:05,780 Presented. 583 00:42:06,460 --> 00:42:08,390 OK, can I get a second for that? 584 00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:09,060 2nd. 585 00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:10,300 All in favor. 586 00:42:10,580 --> 00:42:11,300 Aye, aye. 587 00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,500 OK, motion passes, so IHC is through. 588 00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:17,180 And now for 7.1. 589 00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:22,300 I move to approve. 590 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,390 The forged development agreement as presented. 591 00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:28,030 Try to 2nd on that. 592 00:42:29,460 --> 00:42:30,060 I'll second. 593 00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:31,420 All in favor. 594 00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:32,340 Aye. 595 00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:34,260 Any opposed? 596 00:42:35,860 --> 00:42:38,300 All right, Jacob Wood comes down to you, brother. Where you at? 597 00:42:40,380 --> 00:42:43,780 No, he came back, just he came back just to the boat. 598 00:42:44,260 --> 00:42:46,740 All right. Would it be helpful? 599 00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:47,700 Yes. 600 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:51,740 I know we're kind of in the middle of actually when we. 601 00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:53,060 Take a box first. 602 00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:55,060 Aye. 603 00:42:57,970 --> 00:42:58,670 Motion. 604 00:42:58,780 --> 00:43:00,940 Passes OK. 605 00:43:01,060 --> 00:43:01,540 Awesome. Umm. 606 00:43:01,940 --> 00:43:04,780 All righty, let's jump to the consent items. 607 00:43:08,380 --> 00:43:10,780 Is there anything on these consent items that? 608 00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:13,260 We need to pull off and put in the business items. 609 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,760 Mayor Jacob Wood. 610 00:43:18,340 --> 00:43:21,260 Sure. Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to 8 points. 611 00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:25,500 Takes a place to under business item as 10.4. 612 00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:29,140 OK, so Jacob's word. 613 00:43:29,260 --> 00:43:32,500 Has a motion to 8.6 down to. 614 00:43:37,460 --> 00:43:37,900 Take it off. 615 00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:40,060 OK. Anything else? 616 00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:44,660 Public safety impact. 617 00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:46,180 Resolutions are made. 618 00:43:47,970 --> 00:43:49,070 That one's a good one. 619 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:50,940 Yeah, I think I'm good with the. 620 00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:54,140 I'm Yep, I'm good with all of them too. 621 00:43:54,620 --> 00:43:56,140 Alrighty, can I get a motion? 622 00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:58,740 I move that we approve consent items 8. 623 00:43:58,940 --> 00:44:00,940 Got one through 8.5. 624 00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:01,900 Has listed. 625 00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:03,500 OK, do I have a second? 626 00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:04,260 Second, OK. 627 00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:08,300 Remembering that some of those are resolutions the Bible. 628 00:44:08,660 --> 00:44:10,500 OK, so let's do. 629 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,950 Let's just do 8.1 so which ones are not the resolution so we can do 8.1 and 8.2. 630 00:44:19,060 --> 00:44:20,460 They put one they want to. 631 00:44:20,660 --> 00:44:22,780 Yeah, there's a resolution. So let's let's. 632 00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:25,300 Let's do April. Let's hold on 8.18.2. 633 00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:26,300 All in favor. 634 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:28,540 Aye aye. Any opposed? 635 00:44:28,980 --> 00:44:30,140 OK. All right. 636 00:44:30,740 --> 00:44:33,060 Let's do 8.3 by roll call. Start with Ezra. 637 00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:34,980 Aye, David, aye. 638 00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:36,100 Jacob Wood. 639 00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:39,310 Aye, Jake Holdaway, Aye. 640 00:44:39,980 --> 00:44:40,860 Parker, hi. 641 00:44:41,340 --> 00:44:42,740 Resolution passes. 642 00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:48,860 OK, let's jump onto 8.4 by roll call. Let's start here. My say what it is just so that they know sure. 643 00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:56,390 So 8.3 the one we just passed was the municipal Wastewater Planning program survey that we presented last week. 644 00:44:57,940 --> 00:44:59,260 8.4 is the. 645 00:44:59,340 --> 00:45:03,460 Redevelopment Agency audit agreement to extend the RDA or the audit. 646 00:45:03,580 --> 00:45:04,220 Of the idea. 647 00:45:04,380 --> 00:45:06,860 Which was discussed last week as well. 648 00:45:07,660 --> 00:45:11,740 Already so 8.3 passes some to 8.4. Roll call Parker. 649 00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:13,500 Hi, Jake. Hi. 650 00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:14,740 Jacob Wood. 651 00:45:16,830 --> 00:45:17,870 David Lurie, Aye. 652 00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:19,300 And Ezra? 653 00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:20,300 Aye, OK. 654 00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:21,780 That resolution. 655 00:45:21,980 --> 00:45:24,260 Passes 8 point. 656 00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:25,780 4 now. 657 00:45:29,390 --> 00:45:33,110 We're struggling with number 8.5 safety impact. 658 00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:39,930 The last couple meetings about implementing a public safety impact fee so that we could collect funds for our law enforcement and 659 00:45:39,930 --> 00:45:43,870 fire department with new development. 660 00:45:45,620 --> 00:45:47,820 OK, roll call. We'll start with Ezra at this time. 661 00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:49,380 Aye, David, aye. 662 00:45:49,820 --> 00:45:50,980 Jake Judge. 663 00:45:51,940 --> 00:45:52,500 Jacob Wood. 664 00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:53,820 Jake Holdaway, hi. 665 00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:55,460 And Parker, hi. 666 00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:57,260 All right, passes. 667 00:45:57,700 --> 00:45:59,700 OK, let's get to the. 668 00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:02,900 We're going to jump down to the Planning Commission. 669 00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:04,580 Let's do the main event. 670 00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:08,860 Can we do the main event? Are we ready to go? OK, we will move the Planning Commission. 671 00:46:09,340 --> 00:46:10,220 To the end. 672 00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:12,630 And let's jump right into. 673 00:46:13,550 --> 00:46:16,230 Public comments. 674 00:46:16,420 --> 00:46:19,380 And I'm sure everyone wants to talk about our travel policy. 675 00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:22,300 We're looking at. 676 00:46:23,020 --> 00:46:24,140 .6 is that. 677 00:46:24,260 --> 00:46:26,100 To be discussed, yes. 678 00:46:26,420 --> 00:46:27,860 We're going to do that down. 679 00:46:28,670 --> 00:46:30,630 The lower comments, yeah. 680 00:46:31,620 --> 00:46:33,380 So let's jump to public comments. 681 00:46:34,580 --> 00:46:35,620 I have. 682 00:46:36,260 --> 00:46:38,580 Do we have more people? I have the public comments right here. 683 00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:41,260 The list. 684 00:46:42,180 --> 00:46:44,580 Let's do this. I will just write down the list and if you. 685 00:46:44,620 --> 00:46:48,870 If you wanted to give a public comment and you're not on the list, this is something we should start doing this year. 686 00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:51,100 Did everyone who wants to? 687 00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:53,780 Publicly comment. I guess that's how you say it. 688 00:46:53,940 --> 00:46:55,060 Did you sign the list? 689 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,310 I'll just go through it and if you're you want to say something you're not here, just raise your hand. 690 00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:01,420 OK, so. 691 00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:02,860 Tim Blackburn. 692 00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:03,660 Fire away. 693 00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:10,260 Yes, let's do what's What's a good time limit? How many you have on the? 694 00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:13,060 12345. 695 00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:16,580 15-2 minutes? What are two minutes? 696 00:47:18,340 --> 00:47:21,700 Well, and if you're going to allow public comment during the. 697 00:47:22,180 --> 00:47:23,540 Tim Blackburn, Sleepy Ridge. 698 00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:29,220 If you're going to allow public comment at all during the time we talk about Arch, I can reserve my time until then. 699 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,430 Let's hear it now. 700 00:47:32,540 --> 00:47:33,460 Here now OK. 701 00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:38,580 I just want to say thank you to the members of the City Council. 702 00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:42,380 For what we have felt to be an increase. 703 00:47:42,620 --> 00:47:44,300 Of support and understanding. 704 00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:47,180 About the importance of trying to. 705 00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:50,220 Preserve and protect the heritage of Vineyard. 706 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:53,860 I have felt immensely. 707 00:47:55,860 --> 00:47:58,740 Pleased with what I have seen. 708 00:47:58,820 --> 00:48:00,180 In terms of. 709 00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:01,900 A refreshing. 710 00:48:02,980 --> 00:48:03,740 Of support. 711 00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:05,500 From the council and the mayor. 712 00:48:06,140 --> 00:48:07,620 Also from the city staff. 713 00:48:08,220 --> 00:48:11,750 And we look forward to their report here shortly. 714 00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:13,580 About possible funding. 715 00:48:13,660 --> 00:48:15,340 For Heritage. 716 00:48:16,660 --> 00:48:19,740 Foundation in the future over this next year. 717 00:48:20,260 --> 00:48:20,820 But. 718 00:48:21,220 --> 00:48:24,740 It's been a it's been a struggle for us to try to be visible. 719 00:48:25,180 --> 00:48:28,060 And to try to make an impact in our community. 720 00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:29,780 The Heritage Foundation. 721 00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:35,150 And I just wanted to say thank you to all of you who asked questions. 722 00:48:35,260 --> 00:48:36,060 And who gives a? 723 00:48:36,140 --> 00:48:38,180 Support and who say. 724 00:48:38,260 --> 00:48:41,980 No, let's move forward with these kinds of ideas. And I've seen that from. 725 00:48:42,140 --> 00:48:44,340 The staff most recently as well. So thank you. 726 00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:46,460 Thank you, did I use my 2 minutes? 727 00:48:47,380 --> 00:48:49,420 You we are good way to go, Tim. 728 00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:55,700 Transferable nonsense. Verbal 2 minutes. 729 00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:59,820 OK, All right. Emily Larson with. 730 00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:01,190 Bridgeport, come on down. 731 00:49:03,070 --> 00:49:07,890 Thank you for coming. Appreciate it. Can you say north-south central Bridgeport? I don't even know what I am on 410 E, You're not 732 00:49:07,890 --> 00:49:12,710 Christopher Columbus. 733 00:49:13,220 --> 00:49:15,700 I know, I don't know. I know my address mountainside. 734 00:49:16,060 --> 00:49:20,900 Don't start my 2 minutes yet. I need all my 2 minutes. Just kidding. Saint George St. 735 00:49:21,260 --> 00:49:25,940 So my name is Emily Larson. I'm from Bridgeport. You've seen me before. Parking. 736 00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:31,380 I had two other friends here from my neighborhood that they had to leave because of babysitters so. 737 00:49:31,460 --> 00:49:33,110 There's them and then I'm going to actually. 738 00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:35,500 For part of my time read this from. 739 00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:38,790 Another neighbor that couldn't be here tonight so I'm reading her e-mail. 740 00:49:39,180 --> 00:49:43,080 Good evening Mayor Stratton and council members. My name is Brittany Hanson and I am part of the Bridgeport neighborhood. Thank 741 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,980 you for your time and your continued efforts to listen to. 742 00:49:47,380 --> 00:49:51,405 And represent our community. I'm speaking in support of the proposed parking permit plan for my neighborhood, not as a completely 743 00:49:51,405 --> 00:49:55,430 comprehensive solution. 744 00:49:55,540 --> 00:49:57,500 But as an important and necessary step. 745 00:49:57,580 --> 00:49:59,620 Towards safer, more functional streets. 746 00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:02,500 Right now, many of our roads are simply not safe. 747 00:50:02,740 --> 00:50:07,260 Cars are parked bumper to bumper, making it difficult to see children, dangerous to drive through and in some cases so congested 748 00:50:07,260 --> 00:50:11,780 that emergency vehicles would struggle to get access. 749 00:50:11,980 --> 00:50:13,540 That alone should give us pause. 750 00:50:14,210 --> 00:50:20,550 There are also everyday impacts that add up quickly. Garbage and recycling being skipped because trucks can't reach the cans. 751 00:50:20,660 --> 00:50:24,700 And residents being blocked in or delayed just trying to leave their own driveways. We understand that this connects to a broader 752 00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:28,740 over occupancy challenges. 753 00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:35,020 But this proposal is a practical step that directly involves involves safely and and. 754 00:50:35,140 --> 00:50:38,940 In their liable livability right now. 755 00:50:39,260 --> 00:50:44,593 At the February 7th council meeting, Councilman Holdaway stated that home evictions quote could be seen as kindness. End Quote. 756 00:50:44,593 --> 00:50:49,926 I'd suggest that in some circumstances, towing, when used thoughtfully and sparingly, could reflect the same principle when it 757 00:50:49,926 --> 00:50:55,259 helps resource safety, access and order. 758 00:50:55,460 --> 00:51:01,540 And order for the broader community. That said, no one is asking for unchecked or aggressive enforcement. The goal is balanced. 759 00:51:01,940 --> 00:51:07,180 This plan does that by protecting homeowners and lawful renters while still creating structure and accountability. At the end of 760 00:51:07,180 --> 00:51:12,420 the day, this is about safety, accessibility and preserving a sense of community. 761 00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:17,470 I appreciate the consideration you're giving this issue and encourage you to move this plan forward. Thank you. 762 00:51:18,260 --> 00:51:22,820 I agree with everything that she said and I want to keep our community great. 763 00:51:23,220 --> 00:51:26,540 Look at that. Thank you. Let's go. 764 00:51:27,940 --> 00:51:28,500 You know. 765 00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:35,260 The funny thing is where to go when you stood up. I started it and I totally forgot that Councilman Holder went. 766 00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:36,300 Well. 767 00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:41,100 You're awesome. Love it. OK, we. 768 00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:43,180 Donna Blake with Bridgeport. 769 00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:44,340 Come on down. 770 00:51:44,420 --> 00:51:45,500 North southeast of US. 771 00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:51,860 West, Hi, I am Dana Blake. Oh, sorry, Dana. 772 00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:54,780 All good. I'm in the northeast corner of Bridgeport. 773 00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:00,390 So we. 774 00:52:00,740 --> 00:52:05,420 We have a big issue with over occupancy in our neighborhood as well as Lechevenon there's. 775 00:52:06,740 --> 00:52:10,540 So many cars parked on the road that it is becoming unsafe. Our children cannot ride their bikes because they might not be able to 776 00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:14,340 cross the street safely. 777 00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:15,580 There's umm. 778 00:52:17,110 --> 00:52:20,750 It's really getting to the point where if you're driving at the same time as someone coming the opposite direction, there's 779 00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:24,390 nowhere for you to pull around each other. 780 00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:29,270 It's just becoming unsafe all around and unfortunately some of the. 781 00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:30,830 Owners of the. 782 00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:33,780 Over occupied units have even. 783 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,720 Taking steps to try and bully families out. 784 00:52:38,620 --> 00:52:43,700 For requesting things like not parking in front of their driveways or respecting quiet hours. 785 00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:48,100 And we don't appreciate that as families. 786 00:52:48,340 --> 00:52:48,980 And. 787 00:52:50,060 --> 00:52:51,900 You know, we don't want to push. 788 00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:54,540 This issue onto the renters who came in good faith. 789 00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:58,700 But we really need to restore safety to our neighborhoods. It has become. 790 00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:02,940 A point, like they said, where it's affecting every aspect, it's affecting trash, it's affecting our children, it's affecting 791 00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:06,420 safety, it's affecting driving. 792 00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:13,300 And we so appreciate you, Mayor, and especially Ezra, who's worked a lot with our neighborhood. 793 00:53:13,540 --> 00:53:17,020 And all of you for being willing to hear us on this and I know that there. 794 00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:19,620 Are people who had to leave because. 795 00:53:20,660 --> 00:53:24,380 Because public comment was pushed back, but we appreciate you hearing us. 796 00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:26,940 I also wanted to bring forward one thing. 797 00:53:27,340 --> 00:53:28,860 That I've been seeing which is. 798 00:53:30,020 --> 00:53:32,780 Concerning to me, which is just a tendency to. 799 00:53:33,540 --> 00:53:35,580 Of a few of the council members. 800 00:53:35,820 --> 00:53:36,580 To. 801 00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:40,900 Speak in an inflammatory way on social media and. 802 00:53:41,020 --> 00:53:42,700 We as citizens. 803 00:53:42,940 --> 00:53:48,220 Would really appreciate a more unified approach of speaking respectfully to and about. 804 00:53:48,580 --> 00:53:50,060 Your fellow council members? 805 00:53:50,260 --> 00:53:51,100 And, umm. 806 00:53:52,060 --> 00:53:53,670 Yes, we would really appreciate. 807 00:53:54,820 --> 00:53:57,660 By hearing us on our issues and. 808 00:53:57,940 --> 00:54:00,300 Being respectful of each other even though you all have different. 809 00:54:00,420 --> 00:54:01,460 Agendas. Thank you. 810 00:54:01,820 --> 00:54:02,260 Thank you. 811 00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:03,780 Awesome. Can I? 812 00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:07,860 Can I ask a general question? 813 00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:09,020 As people come up. 814 00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:09,780 Sure. 815 00:54:10,420 --> 00:54:14,780 A couple weeks ago I mentioned in a council meeting I had drove through Bridgeport Lemonade and I had. 816 00:54:14,860 --> 00:54:17,270 Seen and documented a lot of the. 817 00:54:17,660 --> 00:54:19,980 Issues. I counted 5 stop signs that were parked. 818 00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:22,460 With cars parked right up to the line. 819 00:54:23,180 --> 00:54:25,980 Fire hydrants that were blocked. Red curbs with cars on them. 820 00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:28,940 I had reached out to Chief Deputy Holden. 821 00:54:29,060 --> 00:54:31,260 With our local Sheriff's Department. 822 00:54:31,980 --> 00:54:32,980 And he had. 823 00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:38,700 Recent essentially his patrol cars out there and he said that they had wrote 12 tickets I think. 824 00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:40,060 That day or that night? 825 00:54:40,940 --> 00:54:43,940 Have you? When you come up, would you just let me know? Have you seen any? 826 00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:45,470 Improvements with. 827 00:54:45,580 --> 00:54:46,180 That, uh. 828 00:54:46,380 --> 00:54:46,860 OK, OK. 829 00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:50,900 Alrighty, we've got. 830 00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:52,460 John Kidd. 831 00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:56,300 Do you want us all just raise our hands? We appreciate that, they're saying yeah. 832 00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:02,620 So I can go first too. I can read my. 833 00:55:03,780 --> 00:55:03,940 Yeah. 834 00:55:08,030 --> 00:55:10,670 My name is John Kidd and I live in the Maples. 835 00:55:10,940 --> 00:55:11,860 So parking. 836 00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:13,460 Is a tricky topic to address. 837 00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:17,380 We appreciate the freedom that we are blessed with, even down to the freedom of movement. 838 00:55:17,540 --> 00:55:19,260 That granted by our cars. 839 00:55:19,340 --> 00:55:22,580 And we would like to be able to park those cars where we wish particularly. 840 00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:23,860 In our own neighborhoods. 841 00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:27,220 But what happens when one individual's exercise of that? 842 00:55:27,340 --> 00:55:31,565 Freedom begins to impose a cost on others. A large number of vehicles that are parked on a street can impose direct and indirect 843 00:55:31,565 --> 00:55:35,790 costs for neighbors. 844 00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:40,900 I for one appreciate a scenario where these costs are internalized by those causing the imposition. 845 00:55:41,060 --> 00:55:41,900 Of these costs. 846 00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:44,700 If you are able to fit all of your vehicles in your driveway. 847 00:55:44,780 --> 00:55:45,540 That's fantastic. 848 00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:51,380 But when your plethora of vehicles make it so that I am unable to have guests park within 500 feet. 849 00:55:51,460 --> 00:55:57,820 Of my home when I am unable to back my moving truck into my own driveway when I moved in four years ago. 850 00:55:58,380 --> 00:56:01,990 Or when I worry about my children being hit due to a lack of visibility. 851 00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,700 Then you have imposed a cost on someone other. 852 00:56:04,780 --> 00:56:05,420 Than yourself. 853 00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:08,950 I've heard some say that we need to be good neighbors and I fully agree. 854 00:56:09,620 --> 00:56:13,260 But in some cases, individual efforts are not enough to resolve the issue. 855 00:56:13,940 --> 00:56:17,940 Being a good neighbor should not require accepting the ongoing negative impacts. 856 00:56:18,340 --> 00:56:21,070 Finally, I encourage the Council to consider this issue. 857 00:56:21,220 --> 00:56:24,900 Promptly. Any change in policy will likely take time to implement. 858 00:56:24,980 --> 00:56:28,700 Rather than simply shutting this down without full information, let's get this information out so that we can address the problems 859 00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:32,420 we see in a timely manner. 860 00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:37,305 The newest portion of the Maples has welcomed many new families and for those that are moving in now or maybe in the near future, 861 00:56:37,305 --> 00:56:41,510 I wish them to know the policy as soon as possible. 862 00:56:41,620 --> 00:56:43,500 Rather than finding out. 863 00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:46,630 And not wanting to live there in six months. 864 00:56:46,940 --> 00:56:50,980 Additionally, addressing this before the influx of college students that the salt the fall semester would bring would help prevent 865 00:56:50,980 --> 00:56:55,020 further strain on neighborhood parking. 866 00:56:55,420 --> 00:56:56,380 I want to be a good neighbor. 867 00:56:56,540 --> 00:57:00,940 And I feel part of that is helping my neighbors be comfortable with policies in their neighborhood. 868 00:57:01,380 --> 00:57:06,060 I appreciate the work that has been done with the parking permit policy and I would like to see this. 869 00:57:06,220 --> 00:57:08,500 Considered for the Naples area as well. 870 00:57:08,660 --> 00:57:09,220 Thank you. 871 00:57:09,340 --> 00:57:10,100 Thank you, John. 872 00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:12,820 And you're nailing it. 873 00:57:13,180 --> 00:57:15,060 OK, let me find out person. 874 00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:20,580 There's a support or against The Who lives in Maples besides John. 875 00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:22,340 Maples OK. 876 00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:28,580 And there was a lot of help with do we like John's idea? Do we support John? 877 00:57:29,340 --> 00:57:30,340 Way to go, John. 878 00:57:30,460 --> 00:57:31,860 Yeah, John, OK. 879 00:57:32,340 --> 00:57:34,300 All righty. So that wasn't. 880 00:57:34,340 --> 00:57:37,310 That was a good point too about you guys are getting a bunch of homes coming in. 881 00:57:37,420 --> 00:57:38,140 And we need to. 882 00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:38,980 Something to. 883 00:57:39,780 --> 00:57:41,580 With with all basin apartments. 884 00:57:41,820 --> 00:57:43,220 OK. All right. 885 00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:48,580 OK. All right. Next up, we've got Stephanie. 886 00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:54,740 So Stephanie had to leave, but she gave me her comment she was going to read. 887 00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:56,500 Round 2. Come on up, John. 888 00:57:58,140 --> 00:58:03,700 She maples again. She maples as well. I would I would talk in a higher voice, but that feels offensive. 889 00:58:04,060 --> 00:58:06,500 Are you in favor of or against the parking permit post? 890 00:58:06,740 --> 00:58:09,380 Are you in favor of the favor? 891 00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:10,460 So sorry. 892 00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:12,460 Good evening. My name is Stephanie. 893 00:58:13,220 --> 00:58:14,910 And I live in the Maples neighborhood. 894 00:58:15,060 --> 00:58:19,370 I'm here to ask the council to consider a parking pass program. As our neighborhood continues to grow and new homes are built, we 895 00:58:19,370 --> 00:58:23,680 are seeing more and more street parking, often with multiple adults living in one home, which leads to several cars parked along 896 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,990 the road. 897 00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:34,140 While we understand that housing needs are changing, the amount of street parking is making our roads feel crowded and less safe. 898 00:58:34,580 --> 00:58:38,590 When cars line both sides of the streets, it becomes hard to see around corners. 899 00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:41,260 And that makes it dangerous for children who are walking. 900 00:58:41,340 --> 00:58:43,140 Riding bikes or using scooters? 901 00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:46,510 It also makes the neighborhood look overcrowded and less cared for. 902 00:58:47,020 --> 00:58:52,140 A parking pass program would help keep our streets safer and more orderly as the Naples continues to expand. 903 00:58:52,180 --> 00:58:53,830 Thank you for your time and consideration. 904 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:55,590 Awesome. Thank you. 905 00:58:56,580 --> 00:58:58,100 All righty, we got Dave Height. 906 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,110 All right. Thank you all. 907 00:59:06,220 --> 00:59:06,980 Appreciate it. 908 00:59:07,660 --> 00:59:09,100 Mayor, Council people. 909 00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:12,860 Feel kind of like this is a spelling bee here. 910 00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:17,100 Which is where you live here. Bad memories for me so. 911 00:59:17,340 --> 00:59:20,260 Days from the Naples from the Naples, Dave Height. 912 00:59:21,460 --> 00:59:23,540 I'm going to come at this just a tad different. 913 00:59:24,260 --> 00:59:27,620 But yeah, I'm here on behalf of many of our residents. 914 00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:28,820 Not all of them. 915 00:59:28,900 --> 00:59:29,620 But a lot of them. 916 00:59:30,580 --> 00:59:35,580 Especially as we're feeling the added pressure of the 75 plus units all with Adus. 917 00:59:36,620 --> 00:59:39,980 I want to go on record supporting the Parking Pass initiative because it makes our streets safer. Safety is the only reason that 918 00:59:39,980 --> 00:59:43,340 matters. 919 00:59:43,780 --> 00:59:44,860 And I'll leave it at that. 920 00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:51,380 I would like to veer a little and discuss more why it is important to implement now versus continuing to hash it out. 921 00:59:52,860 --> 00:59:53,340 Again. 922 00:59:54,020 --> 00:59:55,500 Respect what you guys do. 923 00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:58,260 Especially when you add emotions and human. 924 00:59:58,340 --> 00:59:59,340 Aspect to it. 925 00:59:59,580 --> 01:00:00,380 Super hard. 926 01:00:00,780 --> 01:00:01,900 That being said. 927 01:00:02,740 --> 01:00:06,465 I've been part of high level collegiate programs that have consistently completed for national championships as a player and as a 928 01:00:06,465 --> 01:00:10,190 coach for nearly 20 years. 929 01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:14,230 I share that because I know what it takes for coaches and teams to work together. 930 01:00:14,580 --> 01:00:15,780 And toward a common. 931 01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:21,580 Goal Two things I've learned that apply directly to tonight. First, what we accept is what we can't expect. 932 01:00:22,750 --> 01:00:27,310 We haven't enforced consistently for five years. If nothing changes, nothing changes. 933 01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:31,380 After a tough loss, the worst feeling was walking back into the same problems. 934 01:00:31,740 --> 01:00:36,260 The best feeling was getting back in the gym, putting the plan into action and seeing results. 935 01:00:36,620 --> 01:00:37,460 I'm ready for that. 936 01:00:37,580 --> 01:00:39,780 We're past the point of talking. Let's implement. 937 01:00:39,860 --> 01:00:40,780 Then refined. 938 01:00:41,340 --> 01:00:43,740 2nd be proactive, not reactive. 939 01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:47,220 Some neighborhoods are already in the crisis mode but can become better. 940 01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:49,500 Others, like the Maple, still have a window. 941 01:00:49,860 --> 01:00:53,380 Proactive action saves money, saves time and spares real heartache. 942 01:00:53,780 --> 01:00:54,900 And heartache that come. 943 01:00:55,020 --> 01:00:58,220 That can't come in many forms. It brings me back to safety. 944 01:00:58,660 --> 01:01:02,420 Waiting always comes at a cost more in dollars and resources. 945 01:01:02,540 --> 01:01:04,380 And a community team trust. 946 01:01:04,780 --> 01:01:05,900 We love the city. 947 01:01:05,970 --> 01:01:06,930 Let's move forward. 948 01:01:07,970 --> 01:01:09,570 With action. Thank you. 949 01:01:09,970 --> 01:01:10,570 Thank you. 950 01:01:10,770 --> 01:01:13,530 David, can I ask, have you heard of Operation Neighborhood Shield? 951 01:01:14,460 --> 01:01:15,820 No. OK. Thank you. 952 01:01:17,010 --> 01:01:17,650 Awesome. 953 01:01:18,170 --> 01:01:19,370 All righty. 954 01:01:19,570 --> 01:01:20,770 From Bridgeport. 955 01:01:22,250 --> 01:01:22,770 OK. 956 01:01:23,890 --> 01:01:24,810 Sure. 957 01:01:26,370 --> 01:01:29,370 Now I feel bad I moved the public comments later. 958 01:01:29,890 --> 01:01:35,810 Bridgeport I actually live across the street from Allie and she is the one who brought this all attention to my. 959 01:01:35,890 --> 01:01:37,250 My I'm Aubrey. 960 01:01:39,210 --> 01:01:41,090 Just really quickly we've been. 961 01:01:41,210 --> 01:01:46,170 Bridgeport since 2019. Homes across the street from us weren't even built when we moved in. 962 01:01:48,050 --> 01:01:51,610 And since then, our kids have grown. We have two grown children. They have. 963 01:01:51,690 --> 01:01:53,930 Their own cars on my son has two cars. 964 01:01:54,050 --> 01:01:55,330 We have put an extra. 965 01:01:55,610 --> 01:01:57,010 You know, cement. 966 01:01:57,650 --> 01:01:59,290 Aunt by our driveway. 967 01:01:59,370 --> 01:02:01,330 So we have 5 cars at our home. 968 01:02:01,450 --> 01:02:03,250 But we use our driveway. 969 01:02:03,330 --> 01:02:05,890 And we do over spill onto the street one to. 970 01:02:05,970 --> 01:02:09,130 To cars depending on if we have visitors at our house. 971 01:02:09,330 --> 01:02:10,170 However. 972 01:02:10,890 --> 01:02:12,330 Of the 10. 973 01:02:12,570 --> 01:02:17,220 Homes that are 9 surrounding my home, five of those. 974 01:02:17,370 --> 01:02:19,050 Our rentals non. 975 01:02:19,170 --> 01:02:21,490 Owner occupied multiple. 976 01:02:21,570 --> 01:02:22,250 People. Umm. 977 01:02:22,730 --> 01:02:27,010 So, you know, anywhere between 4:00 to 8:00, people renting the home. 978 01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:31,370 We literally cannot get into our driveway most of the times. 979 01:02:31,450 --> 01:02:33,610 We cannot have family members over. 980 01:02:33,690 --> 01:02:36,290 They have to park blocks away from us. 981 01:02:36,730 --> 01:02:39,930 Every time a home goes up for sale in Bridgeport. 982 01:02:40,650 --> 01:02:43,210 It ends up being a rental property. 983 01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:47,730 I don't remember the last home that went up for Selvik was sold to a single family. 984 01:02:48,550 --> 01:02:57,950 And I have been consistently reporting on the home just to the north of us for five years, not only to the city, but to the age. 985 01:02:58,090 --> 01:02:58,690 Away. 986 01:02:58,930 --> 01:03:03,170 Not anything has been done. I understand it was understaffed. 987 01:03:03,450 --> 01:03:06,980 I understand code enforcement was not happening as it should be. 988 01:03:07,090 --> 01:03:12,330 But at this point we are five years in. Last year we had a home or a car coming around a corner. 989 01:03:12,450 --> 01:03:14,370 The flipped upside down. 990 01:03:14,730 --> 01:03:15,650 Coming around a. 991 01:03:16,090 --> 01:03:20,610 Blind driveway in a single family neighborhood at 2:30 in the afternoon. 992 01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:22,770 I don't know the circumstances of that wreck. 993 01:03:22,930 --> 01:03:26,490 But the fact that it happened in Bridgeport is terrifying to me. 994 01:03:26,730 --> 01:03:29,250 Especially when children were on their way home from school. 995 01:03:29,930 --> 01:03:30,850 It. 996 01:03:30,970 --> 01:03:32,610 Consistently being taken care of. 997 01:03:33,130 --> 01:03:38,130 To answer your previous question, Operation Shield, whatever, I have seen the proposal for that. 998 01:03:38,530 --> 01:03:39,730 I think it's amazing. 999 01:03:39,930 --> 01:03:44,370 But I do think it's going to take a while to implement and get going and at this point. 1000 01:03:44,450 --> 01:03:47,610 Bridgeport is past the point of waiting another. 1001 01:03:47,890 --> 01:03:51,530 Six months to a year to have something done, it's already. 1002 01:03:51,690 --> 01:03:53,690 Five years past having something done. 1003 01:03:54,450 --> 01:03:55,370 That's all I have to. 1004 01:03:55,610 --> 01:03:58,220 Thank you. Question for you, Can you what's your address? 1005 01:03:58,370 --> 01:04:00,770 207 N. 590 E. 1006 01:04:01,490 --> 01:04:02,970 590 E. 1007 01:04:03,410 --> 01:04:09,580 Yeah, the House of the North of us has been rented up and downstairs for the past five years to individuals. 1008 01:04:10,010 --> 01:04:14,090 I have reported it multiple times. They don't use their driveway. 1009 01:04:15,010 --> 01:04:19,340 I at first was reaching out to the owner of that home because we knew him. 1010 01:04:19,570 --> 01:04:23,170 We knew him for the six months that he was there before he moved out. 1011 01:04:23,770 --> 01:04:25,730 And between the yard. 1012 01:04:25,810 --> 01:04:28,210 Never being kept up, you know. 1013 01:04:28,690 --> 01:04:36,090 The weeds multiple feet high and then every single person not even parking in the driveway or the garage. 1014 01:04:36,490 --> 01:04:38,210 They're all over the neighborhood. 1015 01:04:38,650 --> 01:04:39,850 Thank you. 1016 01:04:41,850 --> 01:04:46,010 Bailey, Bailey, I'm feeling really bad, man. 1017 01:04:46,210 --> 01:04:47,450 Movies back, Geez. 1018 01:04:47,890 --> 01:04:49,650 OK, is it Hamlet? 1019 01:04:53,610 --> 01:04:54,170 Oh hey, man. 1020 01:04:54,330 --> 01:04:58,890 Hello. We're good friends now, right? Yeah, you're a buddy. Thanks so much for having. 1021 01:04:59,210 --> 01:05:00,850 Taking the time to address this. 1022 01:05:02,030 --> 01:05:04,390 Should we give him a pin? He's been here like. 1023 01:05:04,730 --> 01:05:07,570 Give this man a pin. I'm trying to wrap the test for the 79. 1024 01:05:11,580 --> 01:05:14,060 Ordeal 48 N Roberta. 1025 01:05:14,890 --> 01:05:17,090 I'm getting used to saying the right thing for the beginning. 1026 01:05:17,770 --> 01:05:22,930 Yeah, I just wanted to come up here and again represent Lechemenant. I know it's difficult for a lot of. 1027 01:05:23,370 --> 01:05:26,850 Our neighbors to come up. I wanted to give some updates. 1028 01:05:27,050 --> 01:05:27,690 As I've. 1029 01:05:28,210 --> 01:05:29,970 Talk to them. I know that there's a lot of. 1030 01:05:30,130 --> 01:05:34,090 People enthusiastic about it also some hesitation or some questions. 1031 01:05:34,210 --> 01:05:37,010 Obviously, I want the Council members to keep that in mind. 1032 01:05:37,050 --> 01:05:38,780 Because I want the whole neighborhood to be. 1033 01:05:39,530 --> 01:05:41,170 Informed. 1034 01:05:41,610 --> 01:05:44,210 Have been bought in with it. 1035 01:05:44,290 --> 01:05:45,610 That being said also. 1036 01:05:45,730 --> 01:05:46,730 Is balancing. 1037 01:05:46,810 --> 01:05:48,450 Making something happen also. 1038 01:05:48,650 --> 01:05:51,010 Balancing with the time to educate the neighborhood. 1039 01:05:51,210 --> 01:05:54,970 So I encourage, obviously the Council members to keep that into consideration. 1040 01:05:55,210 --> 01:05:57,330 But like has been said with Bridgeport, I know it's very. 1041 01:05:57,690 --> 01:06:00,330 Frustrating because we've seen similar situations where we. 1042 01:06:00,490 --> 01:06:03,850 See houses get sold and it goes right to renters. 1043 01:06:04,730 --> 01:06:09,850 I dread anytime we see a family move out of our neighborhood because I know renters are going to come in. 1044 01:06:10,330 --> 01:06:15,210 That being said, of course there's been times where families do report things and they get bullied by. 1045 01:06:15,330 --> 01:06:18,810 Neighbors. We saw one at the Bates. They left because they're. 1046 01:06:18,930 --> 01:06:20,050 Getting bullied by. 1047 01:06:20,330 --> 01:06:26,650 The Bros at this house beside them, even to the point where he would turn on his diesel truck and let the fumes go into the house. 1048 01:06:26,730 --> 01:06:27,570 She told him. 1049 01:06:28,330 --> 01:06:30,970 To please not do that affected their air quality. 1050 01:06:31,170 --> 01:06:32,050 You'd keep doing it. 1051 01:06:32,850 --> 01:06:36,690 Now at the house we have a boat that sits there. This is on the corner of. 1052 01:06:38,450 --> 01:06:40,170 Root of Math and Ruth Hugo. 1053 01:06:40,410 --> 01:06:42,250 And it the tire is. 1054 01:06:42,570 --> 01:06:43,690 Outside of the red. 1055 01:06:43,850 --> 01:06:46,930 But the rest of the boat, which is about 25% of that unit. 1056 01:06:47,050 --> 01:06:49,250 Sticks out into the red property. 1057 01:06:49,730 --> 01:06:52,650 US and a couple of the neighbors have reported it two weeks ago. 1058 01:06:53,010 --> 01:06:53,930 No action. 1059 01:06:54,010 --> 01:06:55,450 Nothing done so. 1060 01:06:55,730 --> 01:06:56,970 Please keep that in mind. 1061 01:06:57,490 --> 01:06:58,410 One last thing. 1062 01:06:59,130 --> 01:07:01,610 Yeah, keep in mind the comments that are said online. 1063 01:07:01,850 --> 01:07:03,650 I know that we all may have different. 1064 01:07:03,770 --> 01:07:04,850 Viewpoints but. 1065 01:07:05,090 --> 01:07:07,810 Sometimes if we put neighbors against neighbors. 1066 01:07:07,970 --> 01:07:11,330 We don't want to do that, so please keep that in mind as well as council members. 1067 01:07:11,410 --> 01:07:12,010 Thank you. 1068 01:07:12,050 --> 01:07:12,740 Thank you. Thank you. 1069 01:07:13,450 --> 01:07:13,890 OK. 1070 01:07:15,210 --> 01:07:17,250 Let's do Gary Moore. 1071 01:07:20,950 --> 01:07:22,390 Signed in the wrong spot. 1072 01:07:22,850 --> 01:07:23,810 All good, brother. 1073 01:07:24,770 --> 01:07:26,690 OK. Anybody else? 1074 01:07:28,050 --> 01:07:29,090 Yeah, come on down. 1075 01:07:30,750 --> 01:07:31,310 Alternate. 1076 01:07:33,570 --> 01:07:36,210 My name is Taylor Timothy Lechemena, Rue de Paris. 1077 01:07:36,450 --> 01:07:39,450 I'm also known as the speed limit guy. Got the speed. 1078 01:07:39,530 --> 01:07:45,010 Yay. But now obviously the problem we're dealing with is over occupancy. You've already heard all the spills. 1079 01:07:45,610 --> 01:07:50,220 One of the things, though that has not been mentioned that's happening as well, is we have a lot of people. 1080 01:07:50,410 --> 01:07:52,010 Parking from the apartments. 1081 01:07:52,090 --> 01:07:53,690 And they're parking on the cheminah. 1082 01:07:53,930 --> 01:07:58,290 Having their homie pick them up and then they're driving back to the apartments and then they're leaving. 1083 01:07:58,570 --> 01:07:59,370 Yes. 1084 01:07:59,650 --> 01:08:00,260 Yes. 1085 01:08:00,650 --> 01:08:01,610 So that is something. 1086 01:08:01,730 --> 01:08:02,330 Yes. Umm. 1087 01:08:02,690 --> 01:08:05,020 All right, I was at the park the other day. 1088 01:08:05,330 --> 01:08:10,010 Kid jumped the fence, ran across the train tracks, jumped the fence and. 1089 01:08:10,330 --> 01:08:12,570 Went to his car. This part in the Seminole education. 1090 01:08:12,850 --> 01:08:14,090 It is dedication. 1091 01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:15,770 But that's just some other. 1092 01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:18,730 Things they take into consideration with this, I support it. 1093 01:08:19,090 --> 01:08:20,290 At the parking situation. 1094 01:08:21,010 --> 01:08:21,700 Thank you. 1095 01:08:21,930 --> 01:08:23,570 All right, got some more. 1096 01:08:24,290 --> 01:08:26,930 Let's go. Yes, Sir, right here. 1097 01:08:27,050 --> 01:08:28,370 Come on down and then. 1098 01:08:28,450 --> 01:08:30,860 We'll go here, and then here, and then here. 1099 01:08:31,050 --> 01:08:32,170 Kind of deal you here. 1100 01:08:32,450 --> 01:08:33,530 Great. Thank you. Aye. 1101 01:08:34,090 --> 01:08:36,290 Ryan Francis from the Garden No S. 1102 01:08:38,130 --> 01:08:41,450 I spoke to you guys two weeks ago at the last meeting, but. 1103 01:08:41,770 --> 01:08:43,730 I just wanted to give you kind of an update. 1104 01:08:43,930 --> 01:08:46,910 I went around my neighborhood and handed out March Madness brackets, something I do because I love my community and we do it. It's 1105 01:08:46,910 --> 01:08:49,890 a fun thing. 1106 01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:53,970 But I also got signatures from about 45 families, but I don't. 1107 01:08:54,050 --> 01:08:55,330 That really matters, but. 1108 01:08:55,450 --> 01:09:00,150 I didn't want it to be my decision, but I just want to give you some of the feedback from people that I talked to and what the 1109 01:09:00,150 --> 01:09:04,850 things that they said. But it really kind of echoes that everybody else said, just that there's so many. 1110 01:09:05,050 --> 01:09:07,090 Homes that are being illegally rented. 1111 01:09:07,210 --> 01:09:07,690 And. 1112 01:09:08,530 --> 01:09:09,850 I really appreciate Jacob Wood. 1113 01:09:09,970 --> 01:09:14,810 Bring you about all this light like our neighbors had the most infractions I think was 17 in the garden of. 1114 01:09:15,290 --> 01:09:16,930 At least reported infractions. 1115 01:09:17,370 --> 01:09:21,610 So if that makes us like Karen's or something, that's fine. But you know. 1116 01:09:21,970 --> 01:09:22,410 But I. 1117 01:09:24,170 --> 01:09:25,890 Sorry if your name Karen, I apologize them. 1118 01:09:26,090 --> 01:09:26,490 But I. 1119 01:09:27,530 --> 01:09:28,970 But I just wanted to say. 1120 01:09:29,250 --> 01:09:30,290 You know, you know. 1121 01:09:30,370 --> 01:09:35,210 I appreciate that as being brought up because we've been reporting things and having problems for, you know. 1122 01:09:35,450 --> 01:09:37,530 Five years we lived here for 10. 1123 01:09:37,810 --> 01:09:41,437 And literally we report things, they're breaking the rules. And what's been happening is they say, well, we're not actually 1124 01:09:41,437 --> 01:09:45,064 breaking the rules. And then they come back to us and say, well, they said they're not doing it. So there's not really any teeth 1125 01:09:45,064 --> 01:09:48,691 in it. 1126 01:09:49,010 --> 01:09:50,930 So I appreciate what Ezra is doing to this. 1127 01:09:51,010 --> 01:09:52,930 Parking program I think will give it some teeth. 1128 01:09:53,090 --> 01:09:55,460 Some kind of something that will actually. 1129 01:09:55,850 --> 01:10:01,290 Give us a tool to try to deter these people from breaking the rules on renting. 1130 01:10:01,770 --> 01:10:04,090 But some of the other concerns people mentioned we. 1131 01:10:04,530 --> 01:10:07,210 And there's a little mailbox area and it is packed. 1132 01:10:07,930 --> 01:10:10,570 I know, Greg Mortenson said. He sent you a picture of it. 1133 01:10:11,970 --> 01:10:16,970 It that people stated they don't think a fire truck could get through there, and I think they're right. 1134 01:10:17,050 --> 01:10:20,850 We have a disabled girl in a neighborhood who frequently tries to get onto her school bus. 1135 01:10:20,930 --> 01:10:24,140 And they can't get to the house because there's so much cars parked and the bus. 1136 01:10:24,250 --> 01:10:26,330 Has to like wait and they have to go wheel her down. 1137 01:10:26,690 --> 01:10:28,290 Things like this shouldn't happen. 1138 01:10:28,970 --> 01:10:33,330 We just want a place to live and I appreciate all the work that you're doing to do that. So thank you very much and I. 1139 01:10:33,490 --> 01:10:34,130 Hope that we. 1140 01:10:34,450 --> 01:10:36,130 Go forward. Thank you. Thank you. 1141 01:10:36,250 --> 01:10:36,770 Thanks, Ryan. 1142 01:10:40,060 --> 01:10:42,340 Hi Mark Osteobolechemy not. 1143 01:10:42,650 --> 01:10:44,180 Great looking flannel by the way. 1144 01:10:44,290 --> 01:10:45,290 Yeah. Thank you. 1145 01:10:45,890 --> 01:10:46,770 Appreciate that umm uh. 1146 01:10:47,370 --> 01:10:53,730 So maybe a different approach. I agree with what everybody said in the air. It seems like there's a couple of concerns. 1147 01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:55,610 About enforcing parking. 1148 01:10:55,890 --> 01:10:57,690 And I wanted to just maybe reiterate. 1149 01:10:57,930 --> 01:11:00,730 Maybe appease some of the doubts, one of which. 1150 01:11:01,330 --> 01:11:03,170 I remember hearing somebody saying like. 1151 01:11:03,250 --> 01:11:04,970 You know, if I forget my past. 1152 01:11:05,450 --> 01:11:09,970 And I get some tow truck over here at night and I'm gone and my morning is is shot. 1153 01:11:10,090 --> 01:11:14,690 You know, it seems like the solution to that is some kind of app. 1154 01:11:14,770 --> 01:11:16,010 Base thing where you're. 1155 01:11:16,090 --> 01:11:17,930 License plate is registered. 1156 01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:21,730 And I which I think is a great idea. So just just to maybe appease some of the concerns about this and get more people on board 1157 01:11:21,730 --> 01:11:25,410 with it. 1158 01:11:25,850 --> 01:11:26,890 It seems like. 1159 01:11:27,170 --> 01:11:32,210 There are some great ideas out there and I would just reiterate to make that super clear. 1160 01:11:32,290 --> 01:11:33,370 Super simple. 1161 01:11:33,490 --> 01:11:34,530 And enforce it. 1162 01:11:35,300 --> 01:11:37,460 Absolutely Velvet Hammer style. 1163 01:11:37,570 --> 01:11:41,450 Right. And then the other question I had on this whole thing is what does the? 1164 01:11:41,530 --> 01:11:45,690 Fire department. Has the fire department said anything about this? Do they have any input? 1165 01:11:45,930 --> 01:11:46,690 That's my question. 1166 01:11:47,330 --> 01:11:48,210 Did he leave? 1167 01:11:50,730 --> 01:11:53,060 Sanderson Lee. He was. He was here. 1168 01:11:54,090 --> 01:11:55,290 Just barely left. 1169 01:11:56,010 --> 01:11:58,090 But yes, he is concerned about. 1170 01:11:58,210 --> 01:11:58,650 The. 1171 01:11:59,250 --> 01:12:02,290 The ability to drive a fire truck into one of these neighborhoods. 1172 01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:04,710 And garbage trucks. 1173 01:12:05,730 --> 01:12:07,020 He said that on his way. 1174 01:12:07,530 --> 01:12:08,610 Charlie, do you want to go again? 1175 01:12:08,810 --> 01:12:09,610 Come on down, man. 1176 01:12:09,730 --> 01:12:11,130 Who's next? Or yeah? 1177 01:12:11,250 --> 01:12:12,570 Let's umm yes please. 1178 01:12:12,850 --> 01:12:13,530 No. 1179 01:12:17,890 --> 01:12:19,610 It's fine mixing it up a little bit. 1180 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,620 It's been so, it's been so positive, so here. 1181 01:12:29,620 --> 01:12:35,020 My name is Christine Jeffs and I am here representing both the Library Board and the Friends of the Library Board. 1182 01:12:35,410 --> 01:12:37,650 I received an e-mail yesterday with a. 1183 01:12:37,730 --> 01:12:40,090 Recommendations for the grant distribution. 1184 01:12:40,330 --> 01:12:43,610 And I noticed that the library had two numbers listed. 1185 01:12:43,690 --> 01:12:48,050 And I'd like to encourage the Council to consider giving the library the higher of the two amounts. 1186 01:12:48,170 --> 01:12:49,490 That were in that e-mail. 1187 01:12:49,610 --> 01:12:54,650 We will put that money to such good use and we are a public service that services the entire community. 1188 01:12:55,250 --> 01:12:55,770 Thank you. 1189 01:12:56,410 --> 01:12:58,570 Over the Friends of the Library thing. 1190 01:12:58,930 --> 01:12:59,890 No, I think it's. 1191 01:12:59,970 --> 01:13:01,490 In fights with the Symphony. 1192 01:13:01,770 --> 01:13:03,330 If I'm reading the e-mail correctly. 1193 01:13:03,610 --> 01:13:06,890 Because after libraries had two amounts, then after Symphony it had two announcements and I believe the difference. Brian, will 1194 01:13:06,890 --> 01:13:10,170 you clarify? 1195 01:13:10,770 --> 01:13:13,570 I got this e-mail yesterday so I don't know if there have been updates. 1196 01:13:13,730 --> 01:13:17,410 Yes, no, you're you're correct. So the Vineyard library. 1197 01:13:17,930 --> 01:13:21,610 That's the one that would potentially have a decrease. Yeah, the. 1198 01:13:22,490 --> 01:13:26,930 The friends didn't change, but it was the library that could potentially have a decrease. 1199 01:13:27,250 --> 01:13:28,970 Happy to explain more of that. 1200 01:13:29,010 --> 01:13:31,940 At that time, unless you want me to do it now. Sounds good, thanks. Thank you. 1201 01:13:35,610 --> 01:13:36,330 Round 2. 1202 01:13:39,490 --> 01:13:41,410 My name is Tyler Harrelson. I must have put my. 1203 01:13:41,490 --> 01:13:42,610 Name on the wrong list. 1204 01:13:44,610 --> 01:13:48,090 Briefly, I wasn't here to comment on the parking situation. 1205 01:13:48,570 --> 01:13:50,730 It's not a solution that will help them now. 1206 01:13:50,810 --> 01:13:54,130 But I do think this is the chickens coming home to roost when? 1207 01:13:54,530 --> 01:13:57,530 This development doesn't have any mixed-use, so no one can walk. 1208 01:13:57,610 --> 01:14:00,450 To work or anything useful other than other houses? 1209 01:14:00,530 --> 01:14:01,450 Doesn't have any. 1210 01:14:01,570 --> 01:14:03,890 Useful transit and has pretty minimal. 1211 01:14:04,730 --> 01:14:08,210 Biking like the lady before had said they have. 1212 01:14:08,290 --> 01:14:11,930 Five cars, I don't know how many in their household that I live in Utah City, I. 1213 01:14:12,850 --> 01:14:15,850 Was helping some neighbors, moved in some college kids. 1214 01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:17,890 I had five kids and I was like. 1215 01:14:18,370 --> 01:14:21,530 Now I'm interested in this stuff. How many cars do you have? And they said 2. 1216 01:14:21,650 --> 01:14:22,850 Three of them take. 1217 01:14:22,930 --> 01:14:24,570 Front runner to school and. 1218 01:14:25,530 --> 01:14:26,810 The other two have jobs. 1219 01:14:27,250 --> 01:14:30,290 They need to take a car and and can't take the front runner so. 1220 01:14:30,930 --> 01:14:31,970 I think that when you're. 1221 01:14:32,210 --> 01:14:34,370 Considering new developments, having more. 1222 01:14:34,770 --> 01:14:38,290 Abilities for transportation is a way to solve your parking problem by. 1223 01:14:38,410 --> 01:14:39,850 Not making everybody **** car. 1224 01:14:40,170 --> 01:14:43,450 I my own comments. 1225 01:14:44,010 --> 01:14:47,450 I talked to you last time about 400 S in the safety proposal there. 1226 01:14:48,210 --> 01:14:52,330 I started a petition that as of this morning has 115. 1227 01:14:52,530 --> 01:14:53,530 Signatures. Umm. 1228 01:14:54,330 --> 01:14:57,410 Basically I wanted to clarify you guys all got an e-mail from Jake summarizing some things that we had talked about some ideas 1229 01:14:57,410 --> 01:15:00,490 for. 1230 01:15:02,170 --> 01:15:03,890 Great suggestions for for a. 1231 01:15:04,890 --> 01:15:10,570 Both the future development and the current that I wanted to clarify that my proposal, my petition is about. 1232 01:15:10,690 --> 01:15:12,420 More about the process than. 1233 01:15:12,770 --> 01:15:14,450 Necessarily any specific? 1234 01:15:14,650 --> 01:15:17,730 Like configuration of of anything like that. 1235 01:15:18,930 --> 01:15:20,890 Something that really frustrates me is. 1236 01:15:21,010 --> 01:15:24,615 And this is how Orem tends to do things. They take a long time to do a bunch of studies and have a bunch of arguments about these 1237 01:15:24,615 --> 01:15:28,220 different things. 1238 01:15:28,330 --> 01:15:29,770 Our proposal is essentially that. 1239 01:15:30,050 --> 01:15:33,050 Yeah, your staff come up with something that would be reasonable to. 1240 01:15:33,330 --> 01:15:39,090 To set up some cones and bollards and that sort of thing right now, implement it and then see how it works. 1241 01:15:39,490 --> 01:15:44,050 Right. Staff needs to review it so it's safe enough that it's not going to get anyone hurt in the interim, but. 1242 01:15:44,530 --> 01:15:47,290 Having that iterative process, I think would be better than. 1243 01:15:47,450 --> 01:15:49,890 Than having a long deliberation and then going. 1244 01:15:50,130 --> 01:15:51,050 Sure. Thank you. 1245 01:15:51,250 --> 01:15:52,490 Can you say it's? 1246 01:15:52,690 --> 01:15:54,770 Really frustrating to get some say. 1247 01:15:54,810 --> 01:15:57,530 We want you to change something, but we don't tell. Don't tell us how. 1248 01:15:57,890 --> 01:15:59,250 Don't say what you want. 1249 01:15:59,410 --> 01:16:02,010 And then we lay something out. It's a new. Those are new. 1250 01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:05,260 Clients out there and you're upset with those, but you won't tell us what's wrong with. 1251 01:16:05,370 --> 01:16:05,930 So, umm. 1252 01:16:06,010 --> 01:16:09,090 People more specific about your complaint and I think you'll get a better. 1253 01:16:09,250 --> 01:16:12,010 Response. Sure, and I'm happy to talk with. 1254 01:16:12,090 --> 01:16:14,290 Talk with you if you'd like, and talk with anybody that. 1255 01:16:14,410 --> 01:16:15,490 That would be useful. 1256 01:16:15,610 --> 01:16:16,850 Thank you. Awesome. Thank you, Sir. 1257 01:16:17,130 --> 01:16:18,330 OK. Anybody else? 1258 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,320 All right, back to the positive conversation. 1259 01:16:24,930 --> 01:16:27,690 Hi, my name is Brandon Peterson. I also live in the gardens. 1260 01:16:27,770 --> 01:16:29,370 Thank you for this opportunity to speak. 1261 01:16:29,810 --> 01:16:34,450 I've been a Vineyard resident for 10 years. I'm actively involved in the community in multiple aspects. 1262 01:16:35,050 --> 01:16:37,010 And I have many great neighbors that are. 1263 01:16:37,090 --> 01:16:37,850 As well. 1264 01:16:38,490 --> 01:16:40,250 We live right next to the princesses. 1265 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,820 But we are actively discussing leaving Vineyard. 1266 01:16:44,530 --> 01:16:47,410 Right, we bought single family homes for a reason. 1267 01:16:48,050 --> 01:16:49,610 And we pay property tax. 1268 01:16:49,930 --> 01:16:51,330 Very high property tax. 1269 01:16:51,410 --> 01:16:52,610 For single family homes. 1270 01:16:53,620 --> 01:16:56,020 And right now the problem that I feel is precedent. 1271 01:16:56,250 --> 01:16:56,770 Right. 1272 01:16:57,330 --> 01:16:57,690 How? 1273 01:16:58,690 --> 01:17:00,170 Really enforce. 1274 01:17:00,250 --> 01:17:02,890 Was if we pick and choose what laws we're enforcing. 1275 01:17:03,450 --> 01:17:06,610 It's creating tremendous safety dangers we've talked about. 1276 01:17:07,090 --> 01:17:08,050 Started in multiple. 1277 01:17:08,130 --> 01:17:09,890 Children in Vineyard have died. 1278 01:17:10,050 --> 01:17:11,250 Being hit by cars. 1279 01:17:11,690 --> 01:17:13,370 And many more that could happen. 1280 01:17:13,530 --> 01:17:14,250 And so. 1281 01:17:14,990 --> 01:17:18,260 As good families are fed up and leaving Vineyard. 1282 01:17:18,370 --> 01:17:20,570 I would just extremely caution this group. 1283 01:17:20,730 --> 01:17:22,580 Because it will happen more. 1284 01:17:22,770 --> 01:17:23,450 And uh. 1285 01:17:23,530 --> 01:17:27,050 We know that the pattern will be that they will be replaced with rentals. 1286 01:17:27,490 --> 01:17:28,490 There's already. 1287 01:17:28,850 --> 01:17:30,610 High amount of high occupancy. 1288 01:17:30,970 --> 01:17:33,850 High occupancy housing options in Vineyard. 1289 01:17:34,130 --> 01:17:39,290 And I think that that needs to be the encouraged drought for people that need that for economic reasons. But. 1290 01:17:39,970 --> 01:17:42,770 It's quite unfair to the citizens to. 1291 01:17:43,770 --> 01:17:47,770 Continue this pattern of what's been happening in spite of us reporting things and it's. 1292 01:17:48,290 --> 01:17:49,770 It's extremely frustrating. 1293 01:17:50,530 --> 01:17:53,690 And discouraging, honestly and so. 1294 01:17:54,050 --> 01:17:54,810 I'm definitely not. 1295 01:17:54,890 --> 01:17:57,980 My with 10 and I know my neighbors are as well and I hope that we can find a. 1296 01:17:58,410 --> 01:17:59,410 Swift and. 1297 01:18:00,970 --> 01:18:01,650 Realistic. 1298 01:18:01,970 --> 01:18:04,500 Resolution to these problems because they're only going to get worse. 1299 01:18:04,570 --> 01:18:05,490 So thank you. 1300 01:18:06,730 --> 01:18:07,450 Thank you. 1301 01:18:10,130 --> 01:18:11,490 OK, all righty. 1302 01:18:11,570 --> 01:18:12,570 Anybody else? 1303 01:18:13,940 --> 01:18:15,980 Taryn Cornelius. Come on down, Karen. 1304 01:18:21,070 --> 01:18:22,580 Karen Cornelius. 1305 01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:24,890 And first of all. 1306 01:18:25,090 --> 01:18:26,730 I feel for everyone of you. 1307 01:18:26,970 --> 01:18:28,410 That are struggling with parking. 1308 01:18:29,090 --> 01:18:31,410 Especially those of you that have young children that. 1309 01:18:31,490 --> 01:18:33,210 Are in danger. 1310 01:18:33,290 --> 01:18:34,770 When they're trying to play. 1311 01:18:35,050 --> 01:18:36,930 And they're called the sacker in their neighborhood. 1312 01:18:37,780 --> 01:18:40,940 I on the other hand, I live in paradise in the villas. 1313 01:18:41,090 --> 01:18:41,730 Because, uh. 1314 01:18:41,810 --> 01:18:43,610 We don't have any parking problems. 1315 01:18:44,130 --> 01:18:46,250 But one thing that I have not heard addressed. 1316 01:18:46,330 --> 01:18:49,290 Is what is this over occupancy? 1317 01:18:49,490 --> 01:18:52,170 Problem we're going to do to our property values. 1318 01:18:52,810 --> 01:18:54,330 That is frightening. 1319 01:18:55,280 --> 01:19:00,500 Our taxes are higher than anybody elses and I think we're going to watch our property taxes. 1320 01:19:00,930 --> 01:19:04,430 Think so rather than a parking permit or anything that's going to put a Band-Aid on. If you want to do that for a minute, that's 1321 01:19:04,430 --> 01:19:07,930 OK. 1322 01:19:08,090 --> 01:19:10,050 But we have got to address. 1323 01:19:10,290 --> 01:19:11,770 The root of the problem. 1324 01:19:11,930 --> 01:19:14,610 And the root of the problem is over occupancy. 1325 01:19:15,290 --> 01:19:19,090 And somehow we have got to put some legal minds together. 1326 01:19:19,330 --> 01:19:21,130 And figure out what we can do. 1327 01:19:21,250 --> 01:19:23,450 So that those of us that have invested. 1328 01:19:24,130 --> 01:19:27,290 Here, to live here and to enjoy being here. 1329 01:19:27,970 --> 01:19:29,330 Are not sold out. 1330 01:19:29,650 --> 01:19:31,170 To all of these investors. 1331 01:19:31,290 --> 01:19:32,930 Thanks. Awesome. 1332 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,560 Are you ******* yeah. ****** me off. 1333 01:19:38,970 --> 01:19:39,770 Thank you, Karen. 1334 01:19:40,010 --> 01:19:42,090 All right. Do we have one more? All right. 1335 01:19:43,060 --> 01:19:44,020 Come on down. 1336 01:19:45,090 --> 01:19:46,580 Yeah, and we got some more. 1337 01:19:46,770 --> 01:19:48,290 All right. Just one more. OK. 1338 01:19:49,210 --> 01:19:50,890 Nicole Haslington, LA Shamanite. 1339 01:19:51,290 --> 01:19:54,490 I echo everything. I think everything's been said really well, but. 1340 01:19:55,090 --> 01:19:59,140 Last night we were talking to some neighbors and there was a lot of discussion. 1341 01:19:59,770 --> 01:20:01,330 Around just like a lot of. 1342 01:20:01,570 --> 01:20:06,250 Extreme like sensationalized comments going around. 1343 01:20:06,370 --> 01:20:07,010 From. 1344 01:20:08,130 --> 01:20:10,530 Some neighbors who don't fully understand. 1345 01:20:10,930 --> 01:20:15,370 The proposal and there's a group chat, there's a Facebook group and and those that have read on it after being informed about it 1346 01:20:15,370 --> 01:20:19,810 all came back and said. 1347 01:20:20,710 --> 01:20:22,500 This seems really fair and I agree. 1348 01:20:22,650 --> 01:20:26,610 With what this is and so I just want to caution that I think the people. 1349 01:20:26,730 --> 01:20:31,050 Those that that are hearing about it through the Grapevine like there was a comment about. 1350 01:20:31,170 --> 01:20:34,450 Sneaky meetings going on with the neighborhood. 1351 01:20:35,450 --> 01:20:42,610 And my husband is actively out. I almost can't go on a walk with him at night because there's no stopping him from. 1352 01:20:42,850 --> 01:20:46,370 Talking to every neighbor, he sees a knocking on doors to notify them. 1353 01:20:46,450 --> 01:20:53,900 About this and I I just want there to be those, you know, those extreme comments that are against it to not be taken. 1354 01:20:54,090 --> 01:20:54,810 In a way that. 1355 01:20:54,890 --> 01:20:59,650 It's just because they don't know. I feel like they're not informed about what is being discussed. 1356 01:21:00,050 --> 01:21:01,290 And I think those. 1357 01:21:01,450 --> 01:21:04,570 There's a reason that sensationalized news comments. 1358 01:21:05,090 --> 01:21:09,010 Make the headlines right because it gets people to buy in because it's scary. 1359 01:21:09,810 --> 01:21:12,820 And we do want our neighborhood to be a community like. 1360 01:21:12,970 --> 01:21:18,410 Everything that's been said, we bought a single family home because we want to live there and we are surrounded by. 1361 01:21:18,690 --> 01:21:21,180 Neighbors. One of our neighbors. 1362 01:21:22,050 --> 01:21:23,730 Around the house, that is. 1363 01:21:24,130 --> 01:21:25,010 Filled with. 1364 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:30,760 Renters so that it's basically like we're living next to a slumlord because there is no. 1365 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,860 Taking care of the property, the trash cans are never taken out, the yard isn't cared for and it's just it's it's a slumlord home 1366 01:21:35,860 --> 01:21:40,800 and that's what not what we wanted to live in Vineyard for. 1367 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,200 Thank you. Awesome. 1368 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:45,280 Come on down. 1369 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:56,040 Hi, I'm twin at Norton, sorry I'm late to the party, just got back from the kids game. 1370 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,480 I was the first new build in Vineyard. 1371 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:03,880 I built in 2013. 1372 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,400 Literally the only house. 1373 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,250 Out here. 1374 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,240 I came over from the last neighborhood in Orem. 1375 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:10,880 For the truck. 1376 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,800 Or the trailer to get posted because I was excited for new development and growth and. 1377 01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:21,790 I can confidently say in the last past five years, it's been chaos and. 1378 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,000 Just with. 1379 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,360 The housing crisis and. 1380 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,160 Where we're at economically like. 1381 01:22:30,940 --> 01:22:31,900 The way that. 1382 01:22:33,210 --> 01:22:36,970 I came to understand how Vineyard was designed was for single family homes. 1383 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:38,040 Which is great. 1384 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:38,840 But with. 1385 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,440 How things are changing. The design no longer. 1386 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,680 Holds its purpose. 1387 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,920 It's exceeded its. 1388 01:22:45,860 --> 01:22:48,210 Broken. It doesn't serve for. 1389 01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,960 A single rental community. 1390 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:51,840 And. 1391 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,000 I'm not out. 1392 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:54,600 I I will. 1393 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,520 Put my name out there. I started the Vineyard neighborhood group. 1394 01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,720 And I haven't been great in keeping it. 1395 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,080 Posted or trying to keep people involved and so I I started. 1396 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,600 Just the other night like just trying to understand perspectives of. 1397 01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:10,450 Different issues. 1398 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,320 People on Rue de Borda, their issues are heavier than mine on Rudy Math. 1399 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,040 But yes, we all have a traffic problem, and we all. 1400 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,680 Even the groups that I've been. 1401 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,240 Recently added to. 1402 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:21,440 We all. 1403 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,160 Have the same goal and the same concerns, but they're just. 1404 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,120 At different levels and so. 1405 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,600 My thoughts. 1406 01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,160 About it is, it's not a one. 1407 01:23:34,590 --> 01:23:36,330 Size fits all like. 1408 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,440 Enforce towing and some of the other. 1409 01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:45,370 Neighborhoods is definitely needed. I've mowed lawns throughout Vineyard with my sons and I've made great relationships with. 1410 01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:46,840 Even singles that. 1411 01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,640 Have hired us and just getting to know them and where they're at in life. 1412 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:51,640 And I think. 1413 01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,680 We suffer as a family community in connection with our neighbors. We don't. 1414 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,960 Go out of our way to get to know our neighbors. We definitely don't serve our neighbors. 1415 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:03,920 I was raised. 1416 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:08,540 Serve neighbors, elderlies, take out their trash, move their lawns. Like that's what I'm teaching my kids. And that was my hope 1417 01:24:08,540 --> 01:24:12,880 when I moved into this neighborhood that we would have. 1418 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:14,640 Good. Solid. 1419 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,680 Values and what we want to teach. 1420 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,120 Our kids because we want a family community. 1421 01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:20,560 But. 1422 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,600 As I've kind of. 1423 01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,000 Talk to neighbors. 1424 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,040 In our neighborhood to understand again the frustration. 1425 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,840 Parking is an outcome. 1426 01:24:31,470 --> 01:24:34,410 To overpopulation of renters, it's an outcome. 1427 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:35,200 If we can. 1428 01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:36,320 Have the same. 1429 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,200 Or have different. 1430 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,000 Restrictions. 1431 01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:41,240 As far as like. 1432 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,240 You want to rent your house? Great. Rent it to a family. 1433 01:24:45,460 --> 01:24:47,660 And I want to know the homeowners and. 1434 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,880 Information like I would rather go. 1435 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:55,680 To the homeowner and address issues that I have as a neighbor then have to waste government time and money. 1436 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:56,800 Over just. 1437 01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:58,120 Bickering. 1438 01:24:58,880 --> 01:24:59,720 And so. 1439 01:25:01,260 --> 01:25:04,690 I don't know what the answer is for that, but like short term. 1440 01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,120 As simple as it sounds. 1441 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,080 A lot of people are visual. 1442 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,200 Um, if we even just paint. 1443 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,240 Parking stalls on the Stinking St. 1444 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:17,560 Two cars fit here. 1445 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:22,660 Sorry, squares don't fit in round holes. Like you don't fit. You don't fit. But it's also not our problem. We're not equipped to 1446 01:25:22,660 --> 01:25:27,560 park a bus, an RV, a semi, whatever it is like. 1447 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,720 That was never the design, so there. 1448 01:25:31,620 --> 01:25:33,940 I guess my hope for the Holy seminar. 1449 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:35,880 Neighborhood. 1450 01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:40,200 Is 1 to fill in the gaps of lack of communication. 1451 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:44,300 There are so many apps and platforms where all of these conversations are happening, but there's no source of truth, so it's 1452 01:25:44,300 --> 01:25:48,280 always he said, she said. 1453 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,440 There's there's gaps, it's broken. I get it. 1454 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,160 But it's not, I think. 1455 01:25:56,500 --> 01:26:01,370 I don't. I know my intent is not to attack or pin any neighbor against another. 1456 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,120 I was raised that when you have issues, you come to the table with solutions. 1457 01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:10,160 I've heard a lot of complaints for several years. 1458 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,000 But no one wants to come to the table with solutions or they expect. 1459 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,760 Somebody able to make the decision for the majority? 1460 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,960 I don't think it's all the questions you have. Neighborhoods have their own council where it's like. 1461 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,280 Now let's have some designated. 1462 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,080 Representation on each St. 1463 01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:32,640 You guys talk about who is being rented. You guys approve if they're gonna. 1464 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:34,280 Be part of this neighborhood. 1465 01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:37,570 And then bring it to vineyards attention like hey. 1466 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,800 This family wants the rent. Great. 1467 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,120 Do them registered like. 1468 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:47,480 I want to see more accountability for these homeowners that are outside of the state too. 1469 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,280 Yeah, one guy on my. 1470 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,720 He lives in California. He owns four different. 1471 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,960 Houses on our street like. 1472 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,840 But I don't have a contact for him. 1473 01:26:57,810 --> 01:27:01,490 That's not fair. But anyway sorry I went overtime for sure but. 1474 01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:02,600 I just. 1475 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,640 I support Vineyard and I want to help them grow but also. 1476 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:11,010 I feel like there needs to be a lot more conversation before anything's just. 1477 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,680 To Boston says it's done so. 1478 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:15,240 Thank you for that. 1479 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:16,200 Appreciate it. Thank you. 1480 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,890 OK, all righty, we are going to close public comments. 1481 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,040 Does everyone go? They wanted to go. 1482 01:27:23,890 --> 01:27:24,690 One more. 1483 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:25,960 All right. 1484 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,800 Travis Thompson at the garden. 1485 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:33,240 No's. 1486 01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,780 I just want to show my support for the the parking initiative. I further support just enforcing Adus. It's ridiculous that we 1487 01:27:39,780 --> 01:27:43,440 don't I. 1488 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:49,050 Lived in basement apartments in Orem that the first thing my landlord told me was you have to park off the street. 1489 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:50,680 It is enforced. We care. 1490 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:51,920 And it was great. 1491 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,200 A wonderful experience. I think we can. 1492 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:55,640 Force our our. 1493 01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,720 Owners to do the same thing and there's. 1494 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,920 Usually plenty of driveway space that goes unused. It's kind of insane. 1495 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:01,800 But uh. 1496 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:03,720 I just want to say that this is. 1497 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,240 The only thing that has ever gotten me to a City Council meeting. 1498 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,520 Just for the record, like not a political person registered independent. 1499 01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,480 Like I vote and that's about it. 1500 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,480 This matters because I have kids. 1501 01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,120 And because they run around all the time. 1502 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,400 And luckily I live in the center of the neighborhood. 1503 01:28:25,480 --> 01:28:27,880 And I didn't have to deal with this until maybe. 1504 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:29,280 Two years ago. 1505 01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,840 And now I can barely get my boat. 1506 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,200 In and out of my. 1507 01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:34,840 RV pad that I paid. 1508 01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:37,400 A stupid amount of money to put in. 1509 01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:39,130 So that I didn't have to park it on the street. 1510 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,200 Because that's the responsibility. 1511 01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,480 That I bear, and we should hold everyone accountable to that kind of stuff. 1512 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:45,600 And at that. 1513 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:46,720 Politics, yeah. 1514 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:49,000 Awesome. Thanks. 1515 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,120 OK, for. 1516 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:52,320 One more. 1517 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:55,480 Jeremy. 1518 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:57,680 Jeremy is Bridgeport. Yeah, I know. 1519 01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,280 You guys like one more? 1520 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,040 I just wanted to share a quick story real quick. 1521 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:04,440 With the families regard. 1522 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,240 To them feeling safe. 1523 01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,840 When I come through my neighborhood in Bridgeport, I make it a point. 1524 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:10,680 To drive. 1525 01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,880 1015 miles an hour, no faster. 1526 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:19,600 The other day I was coming around the corner and due to the amount of cars parked on the street, I almost took a child's life. 1527 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:24,000 And I can't even imagine what that would be like. 1528 01:29:24,700 --> 01:29:26,410 Had the parent not been there. 1529 01:29:27,150 --> 01:29:28,510 That child would have been dead. 1530 01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,840 I came around the corner. There was absolutely no way in our. 1531 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:33,880 To see the child. 1532 01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,440 They darted out from in between two cars. 1533 01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:40,400 There was a mom there that thankfully grabbed the arm and the kid, otherwise I would have killed the child. 1534 01:29:41,610 --> 01:29:44,690 So with that I would just really. 1535 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:49,200 I'd like to say just do what you can. 1536 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:50,840 I mean, I know. 1537 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:52,440 I know everybody has an opinion. 1538 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:57,720 Everybody's working hard on this situation. This was handed to you guys by another administration. 1539 01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,570 Not a lot you can do about it. 1540 01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,120 But in the meantime. 1541 01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:02,120 I really don't wanna. 1542 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,560 Good. Yeah, so. 1543 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:09,160 If there's anything you can do, parking passes I think would be great right at first, but. 1544 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,280 You know, whatever you guys feel like. Thank you Sir. Thank you for sharing. 1545 01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:15,440 That was awesome. 1546 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,840 I'll think of another one of those. Anyone else? 1547 01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,090 Great. OK, we're going to close public comments. 1548 01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,040 Good, good. OK, awesome. 1549 01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:25,520 All righty, so let's. 1550 01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:32,240 Talk Council, let's discuss the 8.6 this consent item. 8.6 Neighborhood parking permit program resolution. 1551 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,570 26-19. 1552 01:30:38,440 --> 01:30:39,680 Any comments from Council? 1553 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:42,680 Sure. 1554 01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:45,040 Comments. 1555 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:47,880 I'm just. 1556 01:30:51,580 --> 01:30:52,860 I'm very empathetic. 1557 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:54,200 Towards. 1558 01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,120 The community, like I said, I. 1559 01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:59,600 Gone and drove through those neighborhoods a couple times and I see the issues. 1560 01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:05,170 And I think it's appalling and I would be scared if I lived in that community too. 1561 01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,600 I appreciate the way that you guys. 1562 01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:11,400 Have shown up. 1563 01:31:11,480 --> 01:31:13,360 To come to the City Council meeting and. 1564 01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,680 Speak very politely. 1565 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,800 And and honestly and with your your hearts. 1566 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,170 I was very frustrated. 1567 01:31:24,370 --> 01:31:25,370 By some of the. 1568 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,280 Events that I have learned had transpired. 1569 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:29,840 Between our last. 1570 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:31,760 Discussion on this. 1571 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:33,160 And now? 1572 01:31:34,460 --> 01:31:37,730 And to maybe not. 1573 01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,680 Do a disservice. I I was very prepared with. 1574 01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,760 Maybe borderline hostile statements? 1575 01:31:48,440 --> 01:31:48,880 But I. 1576 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:55,280 I'm frustrated with how this is transpiring overall and I'm frustrated on behalf of the the residents and I'm frustrated. 1577 01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:57,560 As a council member. 1578 01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:04,080 In a previous City Council meeting, we gave direction when we addressed this last and it was done unanimously. 1579 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:05,200 By the way. 1580 01:32:06,290 --> 01:32:08,090 That we needed to. 1581 01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:09,600 Hold community meetings. 1582 01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:15,720 And we needed to collect more information, we needed to talk to the residents and try to build as much consensus as possible. 1583 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,120 To make sure that what we were going to implement worked. 1584 01:32:19,220 --> 01:32:21,220 And in the last 24 hours, I learned. 1585 01:32:21,440 --> 01:32:24,640 That many residents were told not to meet with. 1586 01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,720 Councilmember Wood or Councilmember Holdaway. 1587 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:30,400 Who were assigned that responsibility to facilitate those community meetings? 1588 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,600 And I think that's done a great disservice to you all. 1589 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,880 Because if those meetings had transpired and we would have collected that data and that information. 1590 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,720 We could have more informed. 1591 01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,000 Decisions on how to actually implement this process. 1592 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,600 In an effective manner for the community at large. 1593 01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:48,290 So I'm frustrated that that. 1594 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:53,200 Was essentially subverting the will of the Council and again it was a unanimous decision so that. 1595 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:54,760 That was frustrating to learn about. 1596 01:32:56,220 --> 01:32:57,540 I think. 1597 01:32:58,640 --> 01:32:59,240 That. 1598 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:03,680 One, we need to pull the levers that are going to be most immediate to help the residents. 1599 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:08,000 And to me, that most immediate lever we have available is enforcement. 1600 01:33:08,440 --> 01:33:10,280 So I would like to with the. 1601 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,920 You know, approval and agreement of the Council. 1602 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:20,170 Let's encourage the Sheriff's Department to hit that area hard because if people get ticketed on that street every single day. 1603 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:23,400 If it. 1604 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:29,120 Every single day these people will start parking there because they'll start. 1605 01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:30,520 Going to court. 1606 01:33:31,820 --> 01:33:34,170 Hey, Alexa, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. 1607 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,560 Please come to the come to Mark. 1608 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:37,920 Name. 1609 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:44,480 Again, Aubrey Nanhart from Bridgeport, and I apologize. I I hear you. 1610 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:45,920 I understand. 1611 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:51,260 But you know what, there has been for a couple of months now a group of citizens really working together to try to see each 1612 01:33:51,260 --> 01:33:56,480 other's point of view. I initially was against. 1613 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:57,200 Towing. 1614 01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,040 Because I have to park on the street. 1615 01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,280 From our own home. 1616 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:02,160 But I am. 1617 01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,690 For it at this point and This is why. 1618 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:06,480 We've called the sheriff. 1619 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,640 They have increased their. 1620 01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:17,120 Done their their patrols in our neighborhood in Bridgeport. I have had people park 3 feet into my driveway. 1621 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:18,240 They've been ticketed. 1622 01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:18,920 Guess what? 1623 01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:20,920 It happens again the next week. 1624 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,880 It happens over and over again. I I just. 1625 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:26,240 Feel like that? 1626 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,370 Avenue has been taken. 1627 01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:34,010 By the residents because the city has not done anything over the past five years. 1628 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,320 That Ave. has been addressed multiple times. 1629 01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,560 And there has been a lot of work. 1630 01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:46,640 Put out with a lot of the residents who are honestly concerned about this. I'm not saying that. 1631 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,640 That neighborhood councils. 1632 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:52,130 Don't have value because they do, I think. 1633 01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:53,960 Enforcing the code. 1634 01:34:54,440 --> 01:34:59,200 That has been needed to be done forever and you guys are behind the game on that and that is not your fault. 1635 01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,690 But I think that the conjunction of it needs to happen. 1636 01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,360 It needs to happen in tandem. 1637 01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:08,640 And you know what? If these renters are getting in trouble. 1638 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,640 They're going to put the force on their landlords because right now. 1639 01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:16,200 The tenants in these neighborhoods have been trying to do it for years. 1640 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:22,940 And nothing has succeeded in that if these tenants are the ones getting towed and paying and having to go back to their landlords 1641 01:35:22,940 --> 01:35:29,320 and saying you need to do something about this because this isn't right. And now the city is making me pay. 1642 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:34,000 Those landlords are going to fill a lot more pressure. Those landlords are not going to be able to keep trying to get people to 1643 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:38,240 sign leases as families to get past the law. 1644 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:39,720 So according to. 1645 01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:45,540 Code enforcement needs to happen. Neighborhood captains is great, but there's a lot of people who got off of work and came here 1646 01:35:45,540 --> 01:35:51,240 early, who have spent multiple emails, who have been involved in text talking to neighborhoods. 1647 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:52,760 All before this. 1648 01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:55,840 Thank you. You guys know. 1649 01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:01,240 So when we tried to schedule a meeting 3 weeks ago, do you guys know why it was denied? 1650 01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,120 Well, there was, I know that there was a meeting that I got up. 1651 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:09,560 Like why didn't you guys take the meeting to this? We wouldn't be voting on the decision tonight. I'm just trying to figure out 1652 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:14,560 like why the delay in the meeting is actually what's preventing? Why didn't you guys just. 1653 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:18,800 Like we reached out and said, could we hold a meeting and you guys? 1654 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:20,080 The response was. 1655 01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:21,200 We don't want to meet. 1656 01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:22,800 So do we know why? 1657 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,320 I don't know of any about how many Me either. 1658 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,400 Gardens that we would have to have a king. 1659 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:35,400 So like you guys, you guys would be, you guys would be implementing the decision now and we're like. 1660 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,080 So when we reach out and we're like. 1661 01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:41,800 When you said reach out, how did you reach out? Yeah, I didn't know. There's there's a little part with me, so I know that yes, 1662 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:46,040 we're looking to get some people together from. 1663 01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:49,560 He said in the meeting in front of all So. 1664 01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:54,680 What I spoke about with you guys is we had originally talked about doing a meeting before this. 1665 01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,840 Nicole and I forgot that we had a major event coming up. 1666 01:36:58,240 --> 01:36:58,880 With a lot. 1667 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,360 With just friends and everything. 1668 01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:01,760 That kept us so I. 1669 01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:03,080 Told you guys that. 1670 01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:04,160 Primarily Jacob. 1671 01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:09,800 That we had something come up, so we did not have the time to get that, but I did let the group know. 1672 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,200 So it wasn't that we didn't want to do. We could get this done. 1673 01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,050 We could get this done in 48 hours. 1674 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:15,880 So let's just walk through the plan. 1675 01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,680 We want you guys to make your own decision. 1676 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:20,920 We were. We asked you. 1677 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,680 To schedule a meeting of your neighborhood. 1678 01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:24,680 That we could put a. 1679 01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:26,160 Poster out and just say. 1680 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:27,440 We want everyone to come. 1681 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:34,200 In that meeting we would sit down and say what is the consensus around the group so that it would be your decision. 1682 01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:35,440 Not ours. 1683 01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,760 Leaving that meeting, we would then just say. 1684 01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:43,480 We're going to go door to door and tell everyone that that's the consensus and we could do it 24 hours later after that. 1685 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,560 And nobody took us up on it. 1686 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:46,440 So we were like. 1687 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:52,000 And then and then in that meeting and let me walk you through what that meeting would be because there's a lot of decisions. 1688 01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:55,040 OK, and let's take 10 minutes because you guys are really passionate. 1689 01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:57,160 We can even have our first meeting right now. 1690 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:02,360 OK. The first, the first decision of that meeting is there's a lot of different types of parking. 1691 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,080 So we've already done this in two communities. 1692 01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:06,200 There's the. 1693 01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,840 Judge, jury and executioner. 1694 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:09,800 Meaning that. 1695 01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,280 We lose our sovereignty as a city, which is it can be done. 1696 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:14,400 You guys want to do that? 1697 01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:17,410 And there are locations I've done that. 1698 01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,120 Both communities that did it. 1699 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:20,760 Walked away from it. 1700 01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,000 But if it's your decision that wanted to do it. 1701 01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,810 You could, but we just wanted to make sure that it was. 1702 01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:32,420 Your decision to do it and to clarify what that you mean that that you allow the towing company and decide you would be told when 1703 01:38:32,420 --> 01:38:37,920 does what that does is it changes it into a into kind of a. 1704 01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:40,920 HOA type relationship meaning. 1705 01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:42,200 Code enforcement. 1706 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:43,400 Does not do it. 1707 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:44,920 The sheriff does not do it. 1708 01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:48,800 We are deputizing the tow truck company that's compensated by. 1709 01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,600 475 a toe. 1710 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,280 And they just go around and they are the judge. 1711 01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,120 Meaning that our city, our Sarah. 1712 01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,440 The and that's OK. 1713 01:38:59,220 --> 01:39:00,260 And then #2. 1714 01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:02,560 Do you want to do a digital path? 1715 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:08,210 Or a paper path. There's pros and cons to both and we and in that meeting we would sit you down through. 1716 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,120 OK. And then there's also, do you want to do? 1717 01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:12,640 Or do you want to do 1? 1718 01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:14,720 Then there's decisions on. 1719 01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,480 You have families that have. 1720 01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,640 For like, there's families of kids. 1721 01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:19,800 How do we? 1722 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:21,360 How do we overcome that? 1723 01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,040 And then there's problems of. 1724 01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,480 How can we expand parking? So there's about. 1725 01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,480 12 different decisions that we have to sit down. 1726 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,440 Because you guys live amongst yourselves. 1727 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,080 It's your decision. 1728 01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,600 And at the end of the meeting, we wanted to sit down and go. 1729 01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:37,410 Who is the person that. 1730 01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,000 That is in charge of. 1731 01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,880 And communicating what that decision. 1732 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,360 Is and then that decision. 1733 01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:48,320 Would be your neighborhoods. You wouldn't be coming here for a vote. 1734 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,600 And it would be and and. 1735 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,200 What is that leadership look like? 1736 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:58,170 Is that 2 people? Is it one person? Who's the block captain that's in charge of that? 1737 01:39:58,240 --> 01:39:59,530 Because you guys are gonna have to. 1738 01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:01,520 You guys gonna have to look each other in the eye. 1739 01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:07,200 Because what happened on the two other communities, they did a digital parking pass like you guys were talking about. 1740 01:40:08,140 --> 01:40:10,930 The HOA people were so ****** ***. 1741 01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,120 That they did it. They even got told themselves. 1742 01:40:13,480 --> 01:40:15,800 And then they came back and it was like, we're so. 1743 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,280 And it was like, great, but you own the decision. It's not us. 1744 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:19,480 And then? 1745 01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,770 Even the neighborhood being very flexible saying that could happen. 1746 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:24,840 You guys. 1747 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:26,360 Without government in place, could. 1748 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,840 Group together real quick in your group chat. 1749 01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,320 And have better conversations and say. 1750 01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:37,290 Let's adjust. We wanna go to two passes. We wanna go to 1 pass. This isn't working. Let's do paper. 1751 01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:38,120 But it is a. 1752 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:40,360 Individual neighborhood experience. 1753 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:45,960 And one of the other reasons why we wanted to do that is, is there differentiation between Bridgeport? 1754 01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:47,640 Endless seminat. 1755 01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,160 Or the gardens, right, So that it's individ? 1756 01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:55,100 And the Maple and cottonwoods, so that what that is and that you guys are coming at this as an educated decision. The other reason 1757 01:40:55,100 --> 01:40:59,120 why we need to do this, we're not throwing. 1758 01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:00,920 These aren't bad people. 1759 01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:02,920 But in taking. 1760 01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,040 Into this problem. 1761 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,040 We've never had anybody evicted in vineyards. 1762 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,800 For years we were told that your. 1763 01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,760 Responses were being heard and that they were being investigated. 1764 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,000 Part of that problem is staff. 1765 01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:17,200 Part of it is. 1766 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,720 OK, this is the type of evidence. 1767 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:21,080 That needs to be taken. 1768 01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:25,880 Does your can we educate you on this? How can we fulfill with that to be able to do that right? 1769 01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:30,840 And so these are different decisions between 4 different communities on what they want. 1770 01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,370 And we're only coming into the meeting to go. 1771 01:41:34,180 --> 01:41:37,690 What is the consensus? Because what happened here is. 1772 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,040 We're going to do digital parking passes. 1773 01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:41,480 We're going to force it down. 1774 01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:45,120 If we're going to use our lose our sovereignty and that's and that's OK. 1775 01:41:45,470 --> 01:41:47,670 But are all four of you that same? 1776 01:41:47,790 --> 01:41:50,350 And then who is and that when if it doesn't work? 1777 01:41:50,430 --> 01:41:54,360 Are you guys all going to come back and scream to us and we're going, no, that shouldn't happen that way. 1778 01:41:54,550 --> 01:41:56,800 There should be 1 neighborhood person. 1779 01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:58,030 That owns it. 1780 01:41:58,190 --> 01:42:04,040 And the other reason why is is that one person or that leadership can help us in a monthly meeting to go. 1781 01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:12,350 Is our enforcement employee doing it the right way? Do you have problems with the evidence? Because we found out. 1782 01:42:12,750 --> 01:42:15,830 That there were excuses that were did not have merit. 1783 01:42:16,030 --> 01:42:19,320 We've gone and met with Provo, we've gone and met with Orem and. 1784 01:42:19,470 --> 01:42:23,470 I don't want this to be an attack on any employee or any past policy. 1785 01:42:24,190 --> 01:42:27,070 But dammit, Oral and Provo do this. 1786 01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:29,710 And so if they can do it, we can do it. 1787 01:42:29,950 --> 01:42:31,510 And so learning those. 1788 01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:34,870 Problems and I don't want to deputize this leader. 1789 01:42:35,190 --> 01:42:35,790 But. 1790 01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:39,190 That and I love our our previous council. 1791 01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:42,950 But I sat on here for two years saying that we are doing enforcement. 1792 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:44,600 And we weren't. 1793 01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:50,150 And so for two years later to get into it, it's like very frustrating. So we've got to be able to have. 1794 01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:52,310 And then when you talk about enforcement. 1795 01:42:52,390 --> 01:42:54,710 You're talking about very different enforcement. 1796 01:42:55,110 --> 01:42:57,240 And so we've learned through this. 1797 01:42:57,470 --> 01:43:00,350 But then the other thing is, is we've learned is there's bad actors. 1798 01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:03,830 When you give over your sovereignty. 1799 01:43:04,190 --> 01:43:04,990 On the roads. 1800 01:43:05,070 --> 01:43:06,990 And I do agree that it could be good. 1801 01:43:07,150 --> 01:43:08,510 Especially right at the beginning. 1802 01:43:08,830 --> 01:43:12,710 But it's going to **** people off because you're going to make a mistake because you're going to. 1803 01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:14,510 Heart 12 inches. 1804 01:43:15,300 --> 01:43:17,820 You're going to think you didn't. Part 12 and says off. 1805 01:43:18,030 --> 01:43:20,350 And he's compensated by 475. 1806 01:43:20,710 --> 01:43:22,070 You know a toe. 1807 01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:24,070 And so it's like, OK, but you guys? 1808 01:43:24,430 --> 01:43:27,760 You know what I mean? And so it's like you're not coming back to us on if that is. 1809 01:43:27,950 --> 01:43:28,750 But then there's. 1810 01:43:28,830 --> 01:43:30,390 Don't lose our sovereignty toe. 1811 01:43:30,750 --> 01:43:31,510 Which is. 1812 01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:34,990 That we can deputize the leader of your neighborhood to say. 1813 01:43:35,110 --> 01:43:36,950 OK, we don't want him policing. 1814 01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:42,280 We just want them when there is a problem. We want them moving immediately, quickly. 1815 01:43:42,350 --> 01:43:42,950 Right. 1816 01:43:43,070 --> 01:43:46,230 And then that one has to notify that. So someone has to notify real quick. 1817 01:43:46,350 --> 01:43:47,910 So it still goes to. 1818 01:43:47,990 --> 01:43:50,670 The sheriff or or our staff, right? 1819 01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:54,430 And that person is I'm sending a text message to Shoto. 1820 01:43:54,630 --> 01:43:58,270 And we, you know, setting up the automatic tow. 1821 01:43:59,390 --> 01:44:01,230 They can come in 15 minutes and. 1822 01:44:01,710 --> 01:44:03,310 That's what we're learning is better. 1823 01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:07,070 But to be honest with you, this is a learning game and we wanted skin. 1824 01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:10,870 Like you guys are all passionate and I feel the love in the community. 1825 01:44:11,310 --> 01:44:13,310 And the desire to serve. 1826 01:44:13,590 --> 01:44:17,990 But it was like we didn't get that. And we're like, we have to educate on that. 1827 01:44:18,110 --> 01:44:20,830 Because you guys have to stare each other in the eye and so. 1828 01:44:21,070 --> 01:44:23,350 That's what I'm hearing today and if you guys are. 1829 01:44:23,670 --> 01:44:25,910 Willing to do that, You guys are coming. 1830 01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:27,070 Blanketly, umm. 1831 01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:29,750 We'll do this from me, on my standpoint, I'm like. 1832 01:44:30,350 --> 01:44:32,390 I don't mind blanketly doing that. 1833 01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:34,750 But I want a meeting. 1834 01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:36,470 Thursday like. 1835 01:44:36,630 --> 01:44:37,670 Two days from now. 1836 01:44:38,030 --> 01:44:40,710 That you will sit down, that you all show up the same. 1837 01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:43,350 We will go through all of those different problems. 1838 01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:46,150 That we will sit down and find a leadership group. 1839 01:44:46,390 --> 01:44:48,510 So the 9 or 10 people that. 1840 01:44:48,590 --> 01:44:49,950 Send angry emails. 1841 01:44:50,430 --> 01:44:54,200 About I don't want to do it and that's because they research with the other two. 1842 01:44:54,430 --> 01:44:57,270 That they were failed and so we didn't even get a present. OK. 1843 01:44:57,750 --> 01:44:59,830 This is the predatory tub that we're. 1844 01:44:59,910 --> 01:45:01,590 There were. 1845 01:45:01,870 --> 01:45:02,950 Faced with right? 1846 01:45:03,190 --> 01:45:05,350 And so it's you're more educated about. 1847 01:45:05,390 --> 01:45:06,920 And then the last thing I would say is. 1848 01:45:07,110 --> 01:45:08,350 You're more educated about. 1849 01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:09,390 Your decision. 1850 01:45:09,830 --> 01:45:14,430 Because this doesn't work. You guys coming and screaming for two minutes. 1851 01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:15,670 I've been here for two years. 1852 01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:20,190 And coming to the microphone and going north or South side. 1853 01:45:20,550 --> 01:45:25,110 And then hearing from staff saying, oh, it is being done and then it's not. It's like. 1854 01:45:25,470 --> 01:45:28,670 It wasn't being done and I hate to say this, but you were lied to. 1855 01:45:29,190 --> 01:45:32,390 It wasn't. That's a big rant, but those are that's what we're. 1856 01:45:32,590 --> 01:45:35,310 That's why I like the neighborhood thing. It's so come up to the mic now. 1857 01:45:35,710 --> 01:45:37,910 I don't know, can we also share? 1858 01:45:38,030 --> 01:45:39,110 On this real quick. 1859 01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:43,090 One of the big efforts with Operation Neighborhood Shield that was briefed last week is the increased code enforcement, because I 1860 01:45:43,090 --> 01:45:46,910 think everyone here is in agreeance. 1861 01:45:47,030 --> 01:45:54,160 The parking is a problem because of the over occupancy and I know as a statistic you know last year there were over 300. 1862 01:45:54,270 --> 01:45:56,830 Code enforcement violation reports made. 1863 01:45:57,030 --> 01:45:59,230 And I think only two fines were issued. 1864 01:45:59,590 --> 01:46:03,190 So the enforcement piece is where we've historically struggled the most. 1865 01:46:03,550 --> 01:46:04,870 We're moving to add. 1866 01:46:05,030 --> 01:46:09,110 Employees to do that full time as well as shift work morning and evening. 1867 01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:11,910 And bolster how they can collect evidence. 1868 01:46:12,030 --> 01:46:16,270 To actually enforce these codes, you know, you're also real quick, just so you know. 1869 01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:23,040 We're also being gained by investors where the 30 people that are coming in, I know we can't share private information. 1870 01:46:23,550 --> 01:46:29,920 But we know information enough to be able to know how we're being gained and buying multiple houses and you guys have information. 1871 01:46:30,110 --> 01:46:30,990 That can help. 1872 01:46:31,070 --> 01:46:31,750 Better. 1873 01:46:31,870 --> 01:46:33,510 So the decision is being made. 1874 01:46:33,790 --> 01:46:35,190 We also have people that. 1875 01:46:35,310 --> 01:46:40,480 Own the investment properties that also live in Vineyard and go to social media. 1876 01:46:40,670 --> 01:46:45,110 And are scared that we're going to be enforcing this, but there's only 20 to 30 of them so. 1877 01:46:45,310 --> 01:46:46,470 I'm sorry but. 1878 01:46:46,550 --> 01:46:50,630 You bought a home with only four with with four people, not 8. 1879 01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:53,440 And so we have the backbone to be able to do it, but. 1880 01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:55,960 The knowledge that you have in your neighborhoods. 1881 01:46:56,110 --> 01:47:02,750 You know your specific problem and so having a block captain person No, no, we know this person, but also. 1882 01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:04,920 Collectively working together. 1883 01:47:05,190 --> 01:47:09,640 But also there's been some violations that have come in where you guys have been ratted out as to. 1884 01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:14,030 Our employee violating sensitive information like you're turning them in. 1885 01:47:14,430 --> 01:47:17,630 And that and then it stopped your ability to. 1886 01:47:18,070 --> 01:47:22,030 Anonymously go through and do that. So we have to be the bad guys in the. 1887 01:47:22,190 --> 01:47:26,670 And our block, and I hate to say this, but our employees work for us. 1888 01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:28,790 And that type of culture. 1889 01:47:30,590 --> 01:47:32,550 Enforcement that backbone. 1890 01:47:32,910 --> 01:47:36,270 Does not mean it's it's it's love, you know and so. 1891 01:47:36,510 --> 01:47:37,470 That's what we need. 1892 01:47:37,550 --> 01:47:39,390 That's what we're asking from you guys. 1893 01:47:39,670 --> 01:47:41,550 And we're going to be a willing partner. 1894 01:47:41,670 --> 01:47:45,950 Is that one thing, Mayor, please go on to? Can we ask the deputy Sergeant if perhaps? 1895 01:47:46,430 --> 01:47:50,670 He might have some stats for us about about the last week to do more patrolling, right, they did. 1896 01:47:50,830 --> 01:47:54,190 For enforcement, what? What happened there? What? 1897 01:47:55,010 --> 01:47:57,610 Do you have any death and sponsor him? 1898 01:47:58,030 --> 01:48:00,470 The number that we gave that was. 1899 01:48:01,390 --> 01:48:05,590 On there but I mean we've hit it hard up and I mean let's Gemini just for. 1900 01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:07,110 Just for. 1901 01:48:07,470 --> 01:48:09,230 I mean your sake. I mean I've got. 1902 01:48:09,710 --> 01:48:11,190 Excellent pictures of that. 1903 01:48:11,310 --> 01:48:12,830 Tiny ambulance that. 1904 01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:14,830 That they have down here now. 1905 01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:20,590 Where it is right in between the road and I've actually got it within like this distance on both sides. 1906 01:48:21,030 --> 01:48:26,630 So even the small one is having problems in there. It's not like it's unknown for us. 1907 01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:29,430 But even with me and a full size Tahoe going down there. 1908 01:48:29,550 --> 01:48:31,470 It's an issue and can I ask this? 1909 01:48:31,550 --> 01:48:33,430 I mean, while we're on the subject. 1910 01:48:34,270 --> 01:48:37,120 Is there not already the mechanism that if there's. 1911 01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:38,390 And unsafe. 1912 01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:43,350 Parked car like in front of a fire hydrant, in front of a stop sign, on a red curb. 1913 01:48:43,550 --> 01:48:48,630 Can those not just be towed immediately and do we have a agreement in place to allow us to do that? 1914 01:48:48,990 --> 01:48:50,870 Yeah, we can. We can do that. 1915 01:48:51,390 --> 01:48:53,470 Based on the public safety side, so. 1916 01:48:53,670 --> 01:48:55,790 With for instance with your. 1917 01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:56,830 You're right. 1918 01:48:58,030 --> 01:49:02,710 But it's the medical part doesn't necessarily alleviate all of the concern, but that alleviates. 1919 01:49:02,990 --> 01:49:04,950 Some of the safety issue. 1920 01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:06,720 Especially going around corners. 1921 01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:07,750 Right, but it. 1922 01:49:07,870 --> 01:49:10,530 By putting in a party I mean I agree with the permit, it's just the style and then especially when you see people parking from 1923 01:49:10,530 --> 01:49:13,190 the. 1924 01:49:13,270 --> 01:49:17,110 The trail railroads like hey, this person just came over, let's grab them. 1925 01:49:17,310 --> 01:49:22,630 Like that knowledge is key because we could act on it quickly, but that's why I'm saying on a partnership is like. 1926 01:49:23,030 --> 01:49:23,750 We are. 1927 01:49:23,870 --> 01:49:26,830 Screaming. We've messaged to a lot of people like. 1928 01:49:26,910 --> 01:49:28,510 When can we hold this meeting? 1929 01:49:28,590 --> 01:49:30,950 And they can be very quick and especially with. 1930 01:49:31,470 --> 01:49:38,190 The overwhelming desire, and I agree there is misinformation about on both sides, like in terms of like. 1931 01:49:40,030 --> 01:49:41,990 And you're going to learn through this process. 1932 01:49:42,510 --> 01:49:46,110 Really. I mean, as a small business owner, iteration fails great. 1933 01:49:46,190 --> 01:49:47,390 And we're going to do this. 1934 01:49:48,110 --> 01:49:50,160 Contract, we're going to try it for 30 days. 1935 01:49:50,310 --> 01:49:52,390 Great. We're going to switch over and. 1936 01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:54,830 There's kind of like a Swiss army knife of tools of. 1937 01:49:55,030 --> 01:49:55,630 What? Uh. 1938 01:49:55,710 --> 01:49:57,310 What do you want to do? 1939 01:49:57,670 --> 01:50:03,230 And as a civil neighborhood, having those conversations quickly and giving feedback to the leaders what you need. 1940 01:50:03,630 --> 01:50:05,710 So Ron Francis Gordon I. 1941 01:50:06,630 --> 01:50:07,310 First of all. 1942 01:50:07,470 --> 01:50:08,630 I I would like. 1943 01:50:08,750 --> 01:50:12,590 I mean, I think it's pretty unanimous. We want the solution and I don't think. 1944 01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:14,350 From at least our garden. 1945 01:50:14,430 --> 01:50:15,030 Yeah, uh. 1946 01:50:15,950 --> 01:50:16,790 I didn't know. 1947 01:50:17,810 --> 01:50:19,960 The only thing I saw was in this group meet that. 1948 01:50:20,030 --> 01:50:23,270 Has been going on, it's having on most of the information and I came to the meeting 2 weeks ago. 1949 01:50:23,710 --> 01:50:24,670 But I didn't know that. 1950 01:50:24,740 --> 01:50:28,020 You guys were attending to meet with us because I mean I will meet with you any day of the week honestly, you mean and I know I 1951 01:50:28,020 --> 01:50:31,300 can get people in the neighborhood. 1952 01:50:31,540 --> 01:50:34,300 Willing to meet with you? I don't think that. 1953 01:50:34,660 --> 01:50:35,980 You know, I don't think that that's. 1954 01:50:36,340 --> 01:50:41,020 Like I, I don't think there's any kind of political like. 1955 01:50:41,140 --> 01:50:42,700 So you deputize Jacob Smith? 1956 01:50:43,220 --> 01:50:47,750 Or Jacob Wood to hold a meeting with every neighborhood and to start immediately. 1957 01:50:48,180 --> 01:50:50,540 And so this is the first time hearing of that. 1958 01:50:50,620 --> 01:50:53,300 So I was here, Yeah, let many of you know. 1959 01:50:53,660 --> 01:50:56,660 And many of them said sorry, we were told to wait. 1960 01:50:56,820 --> 01:50:59,740 And come to a meeting and vote and we're like, we don't even know what. 1961 01:50:59,820 --> 01:51:01,180 Voting on like. 1962 01:51:01,540 --> 01:51:07,340 I mean, there's a lot of stuff on that chat. It's like trying to read like and that's, you know, in the past. 1963 01:51:07,780 --> 01:51:11,640 Yeah, I just, I just want to say like we are absolutely willing to work with anyone here to try to get a solution so and I'd love 1964 01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:15,500 to hear more about the. 1965 01:51:15,660 --> 01:51:16,900 Neighborhood shield thing because. 1966 01:51:17,340 --> 01:51:20,480 Ultimately, occupancy is the biggest issue. So I mean, sounds like you've already had a consensus. It sounds like most of four 1967 01:51:20,480 --> 01:51:23,620 groups have it. 1968 01:51:23,740 --> 01:51:24,780 And so it's like. 1969 01:51:24,980 --> 01:51:30,140 Yeah, the person that's the leader. Please tell us how to do it, how to proceed. That's my. 1970 01:51:30,660 --> 01:51:35,060 There does need I still want to advocate for the the formal community meetings. 1971 01:51:35,260 --> 01:51:37,220 I I wanna bring up this point and. 1972 01:51:37,740 --> 01:51:40,420 I'm not doubting you all at all. 1973 01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:43,670 In the last 24 hours or so. 1974 01:51:44,020 --> 01:51:46,110 I've gotten a dozen emails. 1975 01:51:46,260 --> 01:51:49,420 From people that are angry we're even talking about this tonight. 1976 01:51:49,700 --> 01:51:50,500 Serious. 1977 01:51:50,980 --> 01:51:53,580 Correct, and that's what I'm I'm asking for help with. 1978 01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:55,340 I suspect. 1979 01:51:55,420 --> 01:51:56,860 That these emails. 1980 01:51:57,220 --> 01:52:00,180 May be people who are already in violation. 1981 01:52:00,300 --> 01:52:02,660 And subsequently they don't want the. 1982 01:52:02,740 --> 01:52:04,860 The parking to be enforced or subsequent. 1983 01:52:05,020 --> 01:52:05,940 Investor owned. 1984 01:52:06,180 --> 01:52:07,580 So we don't know who they are. 1985 01:52:07,660 --> 01:52:08,980 Many of these emails. 1986 01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:09,940 And I actually. 1987 01:52:09,980 --> 01:52:13,820 Maybe Jesse, that would be a point I need to ask about is I don't know if I can disclose their information. 1988 01:52:15,870 --> 01:52:19,150 Many of these emails are citing things. 1989 01:52:19,740 --> 01:52:20,380 Like. 1990 01:52:20,900 --> 01:52:25,750 We're not being included in those discussions. They know that I'm against it, so they won't let me talk. 1991 01:52:25,820 --> 01:52:26,870 Everybody knows this town. 1992 01:52:27,020 --> 01:52:31,380 No, they're not correct. They're talking about your group chats, your community chats, those kind of things. 1993 01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:33,340 Right, but. 1994 01:52:33,420 --> 01:52:36,940 But it but it's what I'm really asking for is I just want to make sure that. 1995 01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:42,400 When we have this meeting, can we make sure the invite goes out to the neighborhood, use the ward text roster or any of those kind 1996 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:47,700 of things? My question is what meeting was try was attempted to be arranged with Bridgeport? 1997 01:52:47,820 --> 01:52:48,860 That people deny. 1998 01:52:49,020 --> 01:52:51,060 So because Hamlet does not live in fridge. 1999 01:52:51,700 --> 01:52:55,700 So for Bridgeport specifically, I'm curious who was reached out to. 2000 01:52:55,900 --> 01:52:57,180 When that meeting was. 2001 01:52:57,380 --> 01:52:58,460 Who denied it? 2002 01:52:58,540 --> 01:53:03,390 It looks like it looks like there's just what support is still needed. 2003 01:53:04,750 --> 01:53:05,390 So. 2004 01:53:06,340 --> 01:53:07,700 Correct. Yeah, so. 2005 01:53:08,540 --> 01:53:14,060 People are frustrated and saying that they won't even listen to all of these members who have been trying. 2006 01:53:14,460 --> 01:53:19,020 We have been working with Ezra for right, but Ezra, so the vote that night was. 2007 01:53:19,300 --> 01:53:20,540 Why have to start over? 2008 01:53:21,100 --> 01:53:23,300 We don't need to. We don't need to. We can meet Thursday. 2009 01:53:25,020 --> 01:53:26,740 Confusing point right there and where because. 2010 01:53:27,340 --> 01:53:29,220 Because if we were to do that, we would. 2011 01:53:29,340 --> 01:53:31,940 We would put a poster on every single door that day. 2012 01:53:32,140 --> 01:53:36,240 We would like you got to go through a public process. I don't know what GroupMe and it wasn't a public GroupMe and it wasn't 2013 01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:40,340 identified. You guys have to realize. 2014 01:53:40,420 --> 01:53:44,700 By deputizing you guys, we have to do things various, so a neighborhood you have to would. 2015 01:53:45,300 --> 01:53:53,140 It's no, no. What do you need us to do? We have to designate a neighborhood captain is. 2016 01:53:53,180 --> 01:53:56,550 Tonight it sounds like there's four neighborhoods that want to go through and do this. 2017 01:53:56,980 --> 01:54:00,445 We could do this Thursday. I mean, we could do it Thursday and, and many things we could start as a group right here in this 2018 01:54:00,445 --> 01:54:03,910 meeting. 2019 01:54:04,020 --> 01:54:05,100 We can start at 6:00. 2020 01:54:05,260 --> 01:54:08,180 If that works for Friday or Saturday, we're very flexible on what it is. 2021 01:54:08,260 --> 01:54:14,860 But to get every person in four neighborhoods together at one time, we could start doing educational thing all at once. 2022 01:54:15,140 --> 01:54:18,150 Through each one of the different things, the different options that are available. 2023 01:54:18,220 --> 01:54:19,220 This is my question. 2024 01:54:19,340 --> 01:54:23,820 And then break off into four groups to vote and to make decisions to come up. But who are you to say what conversations have and 2025 01:54:23,820 --> 01:54:28,300 have not already happened within the Bridgeport neighborhood? 2026 01:54:28,580 --> 01:54:34,580 Because we already have, and that's what we're coming to say, is that we need this to happen as a government agency a little. 2027 01:54:34,700 --> 01:54:38,180 GroupMe, Facebook, that happened with, that's not where all the conversations have happened. That's what I'm saying. Like you 2028 01:54:38,180 --> 01:54:41,660 don't even know what has happened in Bridgeport over the past couple months for a meeting to bring it all out, to do it in the 2029 01:54:41,660 --> 01:54:45,140 public. 2030 01:54:45,300 --> 01:54:45,940 To who? 2031 01:54:46,580 --> 01:54:51,940 That's what I'm asking. City Council meeting and voted to put Jacob Wooden. I was in that meeting. 2032 01:54:52,060 --> 01:54:56,260 And there was number communication to me after the fact that anybody wanted to meet with me. 2033 01:54:56,420 --> 01:55:00,900 Jacob, are you listening to this? Can you chime in? But we voted in the public meeting and said. 2034 01:55:01,060 --> 01:55:06,240 Because I was under the impression that Jacob reached out to people and I was there not to meet with people until after this and 2035 01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:11,420 my name was on the record and it said Ali Reed from Bridgeport, and I never heard a single thing after the fact. 2036 01:55:12,060 --> 01:55:15,940 So I don't love that there's more hoops that we're trying to jump through. 2037 01:55:16,020 --> 01:55:19,340 Like, we still need to do this. Let's do this, let's do this, let's do this. 2038 01:55:20,630 --> 01:55:22,110 Let's take a 5 minute recess. 2039 01:55:22,460 --> 01:55:23,820 Let's take a 5 minute recess. 2040 01:55:23,900 --> 01:55:25,980 Let's do that. Let's recess. We're doing good, though. 2041 01:55:26,540 --> 01:55:26,980 Well. 2042 01:55:27,260 --> 01:55:30,500 I want to make. I just want to make sure everyone's getting hurt, right? 2043 01:55:30,900 --> 01:55:33,460 So do you guys want to take a research or you want to keep going? 2044 01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:36,260 Keep going whatever you want man. 2045 01:55:36,860 --> 01:55:39,620 Ezra, did you want to say something? You've been wanting to say something. 2046 01:55:39,940 --> 01:55:40,420 Go ahead. 2047 01:55:40,660 --> 01:55:41,620 I would love to. 2048 01:55:41,700 --> 01:55:42,300 Thank you. 2049 01:55:44,990 --> 01:55:45,630 I don't. 2050 01:55:47,110 --> 01:55:48,710 I don't have any issues with. 2051 01:55:49,220 --> 01:55:49,940 Neighborhood. 2052 01:55:51,060 --> 01:55:53,500 At the work session I expressed my support for it. 2053 01:55:55,140 --> 01:55:56,950 I want to be very clear that. 2054 01:55:57,220 --> 01:56:00,740 This parking program that's being proposed is not going to solve. 2055 01:56:01,100 --> 01:56:01,940 All problems. 2056 01:56:02,300 --> 01:56:06,140 But it will absolutely address the low hanging fruit of when. 2057 01:56:06,260 --> 01:56:07,380 You have more than. 2058 01:56:07,820 --> 01:56:08,900 Six cars. 2059 01:56:09,140 --> 01:56:11,060 Out on the street for one household. 2060 01:56:11,340 --> 01:56:12,140 You've got. 2061 01:56:12,500 --> 01:56:14,740 One or 2% of the neighborhood causing. 2062 01:56:14,820 --> 01:56:16,780 15 to 20% of an issue. 2063 01:56:17,060 --> 01:56:18,180 And. 2064 01:56:18,940 --> 01:56:21,865 I think all this other stuff is great, like we're going to work on code enforcement. Sheriff's already been hitting it hard, but 2065 01:56:21,865 --> 01:56:24,790 we need to do more. 2066 01:56:25,180 --> 01:56:26,310 And part of this. 2067 01:56:26,460 --> 01:56:27,460 Will this help? 2068 01:56:29,700 --> 01:56:31,460 Each home. Each home has. 2069 01:56:31,980 --> 01:56:33,460 Sufficient amount of parking. 2070 01:56:33,540 --> 01:56:36,460 For their own needs, their own cars and encourage people to use. 2071 01:56:37,180 --> 01:56:38,540 Their driveways as well. 2072 01:56:38,900 --> 01:56:43,100 And so I just want to read the resolution that's being proposed real quick. 2073 01:56:43,380 --> 01:56:44,420 It's very short. 2074 01:56:44,860 --> 01:56:46,060 I, I I. 2075 01:56:47,300 --> 01:56:48,500 Gave the framework and. 2076 01:56:48,820 --> 01:56:50,980 2 council meetings ago and then talked about. 2077 01:56:51,340 --> 01:56:53,340 Or two weeks ago in council meeting. 2078 01:56:53,500 --> 01:56:55,580 And there have been a couple changes that. 2079 01:56:56,100 --> 01:56:57,420 I've made based on. 2080 01:56:57,540 --> 01:57:00,460 Community input and feedback that that I've received. 2081 01:57:01,180 --> 01:57:02,900 And I don't. 2082 01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,560 Like me meeting or talking with neighborhoods? 2083 01:57:06,820 --> 01:57:08,590 People that live in my neighborhood, people that. 2084 01:57:08,820 --> 01:57:11,340 Know me and just want to express their opinions. 2085 01:57:11,500 --> 01:57:13,220 As a member of the Council, I don't. 2086 01:57:13,860 --> 01:57:16,270 I don't feel like I have been trying to. 2087 01:57:17,010 --> 01:57:23,630 Circumvent anything that Jacob Wood's doing or Jake Hold away or anyone else on the council is doing it. 2088 01:57:23,780 --> 01:57:25,620 Why don't you add us into group chat? 2089 01:57:25,740 --> 01:57:28,060 Why don't we know about it So two weeks ago? 2090 01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:32,380 I framework Did you imagine how frustrated we are though guys like. 2091 01:57:32,820 --> 01:57:35,420 It's well, right, I know, but like. 2092 01:57:38,700 --> 01:57:39,180 Ezra. 2093 01:57:40,020 --> 01:57:40,860 Don't keep going. 2094 01:57:41,340 --> 01:57:42,260 Thank you, Sir. 2095 01:57:43,060 --> 01:57:44,940 So anyway. 2096 01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:45,980 Have a. 2097 01:57:47,060 --> 01:57:52,020 Some conversations with folks through many, many meetings. People reach out to me on Facebook Messenger. 2098 01:57:52,140 --> 01:57:53,620 It will reach out for your text. 2099 01:57:55,260 --> 01:57:59,900 Not everybody is going to be supportive of this. No, no policy is going to get 100% support ever. 2100 01:58:00,140 --> 01:58:01,500 In the history of the world. 2101 01:58:03,020 --> 01:58:05,590 I've had some great discussions with with people who. 2102 01:58:05,980 --> 01:58:06,340 Say I. 2103 01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:11,950 Move specifically to an area that's not an HOA because I don't want any regulation. 2104 01:58:12,020 --> 01:58:13,500 I don't want to deal with any of this mess. 2105 01:58:13,620 --> 01:58:15,380 And I I've taken. 2106 01:58:15,740 --> 01:58:18,140 Thoughts into consideration in this proposal? 2107 01:58:18,740 --> 01:58:23,260 And my hope is that we can have something that's very low barrier to entry. 2108 01:58:23,620 --> 01:58:24,900 But will address. 2109 01:58:25,020 --> 01:58:27,220 Some of the biggest issues that we have, which is. 2110 01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:29,230 More than. 2111 01:58:29,340 --> 01:58:33,020 Two or three cars in a home, parking on the street, taking up space for everyone else. 2112 01:58:33,220 --> 01:58:34,340 Which causes. 2113 01:58:34,380 --> 01:58:38,150 Like the after effects of people parking illegally because they still want to park close to their homes. 2114 01:58:38,260 --> 01:58:39,220 And so if you. 2115 01:58:39,420 --> 01:58:42,060 Reduce the amount of parking that's available overall. 2116 01:58:42,300 --> 01:58:43,420 Then that should. 2117 01:58:43,700 --> 01:58:49,460 Naturally help without a bunch of resources from the city doing code enforcement. So here here's here's a proposal that I had. 2118 01:58:49,940 --> 01:58:51,260 So there's six points here. 2119 01:58:51,940 --> 01:58:54,620 Number one permits are required for parking vehicles. 2120 01:58:54,940 --> 01:58:58,060 Overnight between hours of 1:00 AM to 5:00 AM on public streets. 2121 01:58:58,180 --> 01:59:00,340 And the permit program neighborhoods which? 2122 01:59:00,500 --> 01:59:02,460 I would include the seminar Bridgeport. 2123 01:59:02,580 --> 01:59:03,340 The Garden. 2124 01:59:03,420 --> 01:59:08,020 And included a blank that sounds like a Maple is super on board. I would love to include them as well. 2125 01:59:08,140 --> 01:59:09,500 To be proactive in that effort. 2126 01:59:10,260 --> 01:59:11,540 Each household in the permit. 2127 01:59:11,660 --> 01:59:13,340 Program Neighborhoods is eligible for. 2128 01:59:13,580 --> 01:59:15,780 See if a free parking permit if requested. 2129 01:59:16,500 --> 01:59:18,340 And here I haven't included whether they're. 2130 01:59:18,540 --> 01:59:19,660 Paper or digital? 2131 01:59:19,780 --> 01:59:20,860 But I think. 2132 01:59:21,020 --> 01:59:25,780 Great points were made about the digital passes. I would love to see that so people don't have to constantly remember. 2133 01:59:25,860 --> 01:59:28,660 To move those and they just register their cars and then they're done. 2134 01:59:29,660 --> 01:59:33,220 Each household may receive a second free permit for household if they are either. 2135 01:59:33,300 --> 01:59:35,300 And owner occupied non rental unit. 2136 01:59:35,420 --> 01:59:37,660 Or an owner occupied rental that has. 2137 01:59:37,820 --> 01:59:41,060 Complied with all applicable city codes and maintains an active. 2138 01:59:41,180 --> 01:59:46,260 Applicable business or rental license, including provisions to provide enough parking spaces on the property. 2139 01:59:46,420 --> 01:59:50,620 So we then encourage people to work with the city if they're having these rental units as well. 2140 01:59:51,340 --> 01:59:54,340 Non rental units may be eligible for a third free permit. 2141 01:59:54,540 --> 01:59:58,420 If they can demonstrate to city staff that there's insufficient parking for their household. 2142 01:59:58,460 --> 02:00:00,300 Based on the number of drivers and their family. 2143 02:00:00,420 --> 02:00:03,140 That's something that I brought up two weeks ago and asked for. 2144 02:00:03,220 --> 02:00:04,460 Council input on. 2145 02:00:04,580 --> 02:00:05,300 Heard a lot of. 2146 02:00:05,580 --> 02:00:07,060 Feedback from the residents that. 2147 02:00:07,140 --> 02:00:09,180 Hey, if we if we allow this, this is going to. 2148 02:00:09,300 --> 02:00:10,420 Get more broad support. 2149 02:00:10,620 --> 02:00:12,460 Be a lot easier to implement for people and. 2150 02:00:12,620 --> 02:00:15,500 And provide that balance between people who don't want any action. 2151 02:00:15,580 --> 02:00:16,700 And people who do want. 2152 02:00:16,820 --> 02:00:18,140 Some enforcement decisions. 2153 02:00:18,660 --> 02:00:19,900 And then I added. 2154 02:00:20,020 --> 02:00:23,980 All decisions by city staff regarding ineligibility based on that belt criteria. 2155 02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:26,900 May be reviewed by the City Council for final determination. 2156 02:00:27,100 --> 02:00:28,020 So that we take. 2157 02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:32,800 The opportunity to weigh in on any of those decisions if people are denied. 2158 02:00:32,940 --> 02:00:34,100 Enough parking passes. 2159 02:00:35,180 --> 02:00:38,980 Additionally, the temporary permits that may be requested for up to two weeks at a time. 2160 02:00:39,260 --> 02:00:44,470 And that the program will be noticed to the permit program neighborhoods through door hangers, social media. 2161 02:00:44,580 --> 02:00:47,700 And any other method that staff use necessary to inform the public. 2162 02:00:47,820 --> 02:00:50,870 And that enforcement would begin May 28, 2026, which is? 2163 02:00:51,260 --> 02:00:54,620 The Thursday after Memorial Day, so going into Memorial Day weekend. 2164 02:00:54,820 --> 02:00:57,180 That's plenty of time to let the public know. 2165 02:00:57,380 --> 02:00:58,980 Let people know that this is happening. 2166 02:00:59,340 --> 02:01:00,540 In those neighborhoods. 2167 02:01:01,260 --> 02:01:03,260 I do feel like this would just be a great first step. 2168 02:01:03,340 --> 02:01:04,020 To help. 2169 02:01:05,900 --> 02:01:08,780 Give code enforcement something to enforce, like in the Gemini. 2170 02:01:09,060 --> 02:01:14,110 There's no rules about how many cars you can park on the street. You could park 1015 cars on the street if you wanted to. 2171 02:01:14,300 --> 02:01:16,260 As long as you move every 48 hours. 2172 02:01:16,380 --> 02:01:18,670 And so if you have code enforcement for something. 2173 02:01:19,060 --> 02:01:20,140 That isn't a law. 2174 02:01:20,220 --> 02:01:21,260 Or isn't a rule. 2175 02:01:21,460 --> 02:01:23,470 Then it wouldn't solve anything on. 2176 02:01:23,540 --> 02:01:26,460 On the amount of parking that's happening on the streets and causing the. 2177 02:01:26,580 --> 02:01:29,660 The safety issues that people have talked about and the other issues as well. 2178 02:01:31,020 --> 02:01:32,540 I do recognize that. 2179 02:01:32,660 --> 02:01:34,660 People aren't all going to be supportive of this. 2180 02:01:35,460 --> 02:01:36,340 But I do think. 2181 02:01:36,540 --> 02:01:38,140 A lot of the community have. 2182 02:01:38,260 --> 02:01:40,620 Exercise their right to organize as a community. 2183 02:01:40,740 --> 02:01:41,700 To reach out to. 2184 02:01:42,180 --> 02:01:44,420 Their council members. Their their neighbors. 2185 02:01:45,420 --> 02:01:46,300 And a lot of people know. 2186 02:01:46,380 --> 02:01:49,070 I don't think we should be putting guardrails on how people. 2187 02:01:49,220 --> 02:01:50,540 Interact with their government. 2188 02:01:51,540 --> 02:01:54,700 And I fully encourage doing all of the above like. 2189 02:01:55,060 --> 02:01:57,740 Have the meetings with with Jake. I've never. 2190 02:01:57,860 --> 02:01:59,220 Tell anybody not to meet. 2191 02:01:59,380 --> 02:02:00,620 With a council member. 2192 02:02:01,700 --> 02:02:05,780 On something that's going to happen in their neighborhood and I haven't done that. And so I just want to be. 2193 02:02:05,860 --> 02:02:06,780 Clear that that. 2194 02:02:07,020 --> 02:02:09,660 That is the case if there is any doubt that. 2195 02:02:09,940 --> 02:02:14,540 One of the issues, though, is that people speak to you, they they assume they've spoken to the city. 2196 02:02:15,060 --> 02:02:17,500 So that everyone got the message they gave to you. 2197 02:02:17,780 --> 02:02:18,100 I think. 2198 02:02:19,420 --> 02:02:21,140 So wait. 2199 02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:23,740 You guys thought you spoke with the city when? 2200 02:02:31,700 --> 02:02:35,900 So I know, but it's just so odd that we're finding out about this in 24 hour like. 2201 02:02:36,100 --> 02:02:37,060 I thought about this. 2202 02:02:37,380 --> 02:02:42,240 Two weeks ago I brought this up because we, and that's the thing that actually made me the most mad. And now that James brought it 2203 02:02:42,240 --> 02:02:47,100 up, I'm just going to open it up. This was a political trap and I'm just going to call it what it is. 2204 02:02:47,260 --> 02:02:48,260 This was ********. 2205 02:02:48,660 --> 02:02:52,310 And I'm not mad at you guys about it. I'm not about how this was handled specifically. 2206 02:02:52,420 --> 02:02:53,540 Recognize this? 2207 02:02:54,020 --> 02:02:59,740 If Ezra brings this up with less than 24 hours notice, which we as a whole Council have agreed. 2208 02:02:59,980 --> 02:03:02,980 That we were going to try to get the agendas out a week prior. 2209 02:03:03,420 --> 02:03:07,180 And we've done a good job of extending that right. We've been doing it on Fridays. 2210 02:03:07,540 --> 02:03:14,260 But this was brought up with less than 20 or 24 hours notice. Now if we don't agree to put this on the agenda immediately. 2211 02:03:14,780 --> 02:03:18,980 This is then weaponized to say that the mayor is blocking a City Council member and that's not the reality of the situation. We 2212 02:03:18,980 --> 02:03:23,180 want to have the discussions. We want to hear you guys out on this stuff. 2213 02:03:24,380 --> 02:03:26,300 OK, so then we put it on the agenda. 2214 02:03:26,500 --> 02:03:28,030 And it comes to the City Council. 2215 02:03:28,260 --> 02:03:30,190 And if we vote no on it? 2216 02:03:30,420 --> 02:03:32,860 We are the immediately the bad guys even though. 2217 02:03:33,100 --> 02:03:35,500 Our direction was subverted. 2218 02:03:35,620 --> 02:03:37,540 When we said let's have a community meeting. 2219 02:03:38,540 --> 02:03:40,420 Then if we vote yes on it. 2220 02:03:40,460 --> 02:03:41,660 You get a quick political win. 2221 02:03:43,090 --> 02:03:44,350 The reality is. 2222 02:03:44,460 --> 02:03:48,470 It totally acted in bad faith and that's not a reflection on the residents. 2223 02:03:48,660 --> 02:03:49,980 That's a reflection on how. 2224 02:03:50,100 --> 02:03:56,500 The City Council is currently operating and I think that that's bad. We need to have these conversations before and it shouldn't 2225 02:03:56,500 --> 02:04:02,900 be political gamesmanship because it does them a disservice. We just real quick, we just would have advised to post this for. 2226 02:04:03,020 --> 02:04:03,980 Seven days. 2227 02:04:04,180 --> 02:04:06,540 We would have advised to have the group. 2228 02:04:06,860 --> 02:04:11,910 In a like, let's identify a Facebook group where the conversation is happening. 2229 02:04:12,020 --> 02:04:15,220 So we can read all the comments. None of us are in any of these comments, OK? So we have no idea on the back and forth of what's 2230 02:04:15,220 --> 02:04:18,420 going on. 2231 02:04:18,820 --> 02:04:22,020 And Jacob would are 100% in the dark on this. 2232 02:04:22,620 --> 02:04:23,340 Would you please? 2233 02:04:24,940 --> 02:04:27,860 I would like to offer a solution I feel like. 2234 02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:30,110 Almost all of us here. 2235 02:04:30,620 --> 02:04:33,100 Feel like we're missing important pieces of information? 2236 02:04:33,930 --> 02:04:34,770 And so. 2237 02:04:35,940 --> 02:04:37,140 Would like to offer. 2238 02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,230 That I can. 2239 02:04:40,740 --> 02:04:43,140 I can be a liaison for Bridgeport this week. 2240 02:04:43,620 --> 02:04:44,860 I would love to. 2241 02:04:45,780 --> 02:04:46,740 What if we were? 2242 02:04:47,340 --> 02:04:49,100 Please let me finish. I'm sorry. 2243 02:04:51,020 --> 02:04:51,900 I would love. 2244 02:04:52,020 --> 02:04:55,540 To talk with any and all of you really quick. 2245 02:04:55,780 --> 02:05:00,580 About what information and what stipulations you need from our neighborhoods. 2246 02:05:00,980 --> 02:05:02,380 And I would love. 2247 02:05:02,500 --> 02:05:07,100 To get you guys involved in whatever conversations we are having on paper. 2248 02:05:07,580 --> 02:05:08,860 And I would love to. 2249 02:05:08,940 --> 02:05:14,100 To take some time, I know you want to move fast, We also want to move fast, but the reality is that. 2250 02:05:14,540 --> 02:05:20,980 We are people with children, with evening activities, and we can't always get our whole neighborhood together. What about them? 2251 02:05:21,140 --> 02:05:22,460 And so. 2252 02:05:22,980 --> 02:05:24,060 We would like. 2253 02:05:24,140 --> 02:05:28,220 To, you know, even just have a day and 1/2. 2254 02:05:28,420 --> 02:05:30,420 The If Thursday is the day, what if we want? 2255 02:05:30,540 --> 02:05:34,780 Zoom six and eight. Yeah, I'm just trying to find a solution here. 2256 02:05:35,650 --> 02:05:38,470 I am trying to offer one. Thank you. 2257 02:05:39,860 --> 02:05:42,100 I'm willing to be a liaison to. 2258 02:05:42,220 --> 02:05:44,510 Gather the correct information. 2259 02:05:44,660 --> 02:05:46,630 And share that correct information. 2260 02:05:46,860 --> 02:05:49,420 In as many avenues as possible with my neighborhood. 2261 02:05:49,740 --> 02:05:51,380 So that we can have a meeting. 2262 02:05:51,780 --> 02:05:54,900 That is approved and recognized by the City Council. 2263 02:05:55,020 --> 02:05:58,420 And that our neighborhood knows about so that we can address this. I'm sorry that it didn't happen in the past the way that you 2264 02:05:58,420 --> 02:06:01,820 guys wish it had. 2265 02:06:02,060 --> 02:06:03,620 I'm trying to move forward now. 2266 02:06:03,700 --> 02:06:04,620 Yeah, so. 2267 02:06:04,740 --> 02:06:07,500 I'm offering that as a solution. Is that acceptable to you? 2268 02:06:07,620 --> 02:06:10,500 I think that's great. I think that, yeah, I think that's awesome. 2269 02:06:10,660 --> 02:06:12,660 And let me just back up a little bit. 2270 02:06:12,740 --> 02:06:13,740 The best part about? 2271 02:06:13,820 --> 02:06:18,620 Being the mayor and this new form of governments don't have a vote so much for whatever you guys want to do. I'm cool with it. 2272 02:06:20,390 --> 02:06:23,710 I know you guys meet the rules. I enforce the rules, right? And you know. 2273 02:06:24,220 --> 02:06:27,720 To Parkers point, we are actively recruiting code enforcement. If anyone knows Dog the Bounty Hunter like I will hire him tomorrow 2274 02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:31,220 we put it. 2275 02:06:31,340 --> 02:06:32,340 We posted it. 2276 02:06:34,100 --> 02:06:35,700 And I think that. 2277 02:06:36,020 --> 02:06:37,980 I ought to speak from my seat. 2278 02:06:38,420 --> 02:06:40,100 The emails I've gotten. 2279 02:06:40,980 --> 02:06:41,860 Have been. 2280 02:06:42,340 --> 02:06:44,540 Much more against this. 2281 02:06:44,860 --> 02:06:46,380 What then for it? 2282 02:06:46,740 --> 02:06:50,640 That's just my lived experience over the last 48 hours. And I think that probably, Jake, these gentlemen have it figured out that 2283 02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:54,540 they're probably people that are. 2284 02:06:54,780 --> 02:06:55,460 Out of. 2285 02:06:56,730 --> 02:07:02,110 The loop out of the not out of the loop. Or maybe they're they're thinking like they're not following the law right now anyways. 2286 02:07:02,220 --> 02:07:03,820 But that's for reality. Like. 2287 02:07:03,980 --> 02:07:05,700 If I go through my it's it's. 2288 02:07:05,820 --> 02:07:07,700 It's a lot more against and for it and I. 2289 02:07:08,300 --> 02:07:11,660 And so that's, I think they've received quite some of them as well. 2290 02:07:12,860 --> 02:07:14,220 One of the decisions, I mean. 2291 02:07:14,300 --> 02:07:15,700 We can do it over that night. 2292 02:07:16,420 --> 02:07:18,340 OK, you have. 2293 02:07:18,460 --> 02:07:21,620 When this dropped, none of us knew that was going to be on the agenda. 2294 02:07:21,860 --> 02:07:23,300 So we got bombarded. 2295 02:07:23,460 --> 02:07:25,300 Like 12 to 15 emails going. 2296 02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:29,700 How come I didn't know about the referendum language? Why couldn't I look 'cause we we ran on? 2297 02:07:29,980 --> 02:07:34,540 Working sessions seven days in advance, throwing it out, having everyone know. 2298 02:07:34,820 --> 02:07:37,140 And then the other thing is is what is the? 2299 02:07:37,300 --> 02:07:40,340 Approved communication channel? Is that a Facebook group? 2300 02:07:40,820 --> 02:07:42,460 Is it a GroupMe? 2301 02:07:42,700 --> 02:07:44,590 And which is it to be able to hear? 2302 02:07:44,740 --> 02:07:45,420 And then? 2303 02:07:45,540 --> 02:07:48,700 The city staff in monitoring those comments. 2304 02:07:49,380 --> 02:07:50,820 Because not everything. 2305 02:07:51,020 --> 02:07:55,910 You're told is true, so you'll have like a neighbor that is an investor person. 2306 02:07:56,220 --> 02:07:59,030 That is the problem that is telling us something. 2307 02:07:59,140 --> 02:08:00,740 And so you're like. 2308 02:08:00,980 --> 02:08:04,620 OK, we don't live there. Is this person real or not? Is it real? Does that make sense? That's why that meeting is so critical of 2309 02:08:04,620 --> 02:08:08,260 like. 2310 02:08:09,580 --> 02:08:14,020 We've got to hold that meeting so and that's why we, that's why we as a council just came together and said. 2311 02:08:14,660 --> 02:08:15,580 Jacob Wood. 2312 02:08:15,780 --> 02:08:18,700 Like, make sure that there's a referee. 2313 02:08:18,860 --> 02:08:23,260 And there's going to be winners and losers, but in that meeting that we can hold. 2314 02:08:23,740 --> 02:08:24,460 And then? 2315 02:08:24,700 --> 02:08:27,380 This is the general plan of this neighborhood. 2316 02:08:28,350 --> 02:08:30,270 As a government entity. 2317 02:08:30,660 --> 02:08:33,780 You've got to give ample time to say this is the plan. 2318 02:08:33,900 --> 02:08:37,700 And you've got to go through public notice of so if we were to meet Thursday. 2319 02:08:38,180 --> 02:08:41,740 It might be hard to turn around a plan to say well. 2320 02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:43,540 Will knock doors. 2321 02:08:43,620 --> 02:08:44,620 And I don't know if. 2322 02:08:45,060 --> 02:08:48,540 You could say turn around to vote on it on a Tuesday. 2323 02:08:48,660 --> 02:08:52,500 Because we're seven days away, but we are voting next Tuesday. Yeah, we have to. So we could easily vote on that and get those 2324 02:08:52,500 --> 02:08:56,340 other, you know. 2325 02:08:56,420 --> 02:09:00,140 This is a general solution and have four different plans that say this is what we're what we're going to be doing and I could grab 2326 02:09:00,140 --> 02:09:03,860 the leaders. 2327 02:09:03,940 --> 02:09:05,900 Tonight we'll stay up till in the morning. 2328 02:09:06,220 --> 02:09:09,620 Educating you on These are the decisions, and these are the. 2329 02:09:09,900 --> 02:09:12,460 Pros and cons, and this is some of the things that we've learned. 2330 02:09:12,780 --> 02:09:13,620 Right, because I. 2331 02:09:13,940 --> 02:09:17,940 I don't know if my neighborhood wants me as a representative, but I am. Well, that's what you're here. 2332 02:09:19,790 --> 02:09:23,310 No, to be honest with you, that's what that's what the choosing. 2333 02:09:25,540 --> 02:09:30,750 In that meeting we will be doing that. So whoever shows up, yeah, just so you know, in that first meeting where to go. 2334 02:09:31,020 --> 02:09:31,540 Hey. 2335 02:09:31,860 --> 02:09:33,070 Tell me about your neighborhood. 2336 02:09:33,620 --> 02:09:35,700 And if you can submit some names before. 2337 02:09:35,980 --> 02:09:39,860 You know, talk trash privately, but he'd be like, hey, I don't want this person. Like help us understand. 2338 02:09:39,980 --> 02:09:40,900 Have a quick vote. 2339 02:09:40,980 --> 02:09:41,860 But then also. 2340 02:09:41,900 --> 02:09:43,390 How does this neighborhood communicate? 2341 02:09:43,740 --> 02:09:45,580 Does it communicate on GroupMe? 2342 02:09:45,820 --> 02:09:48,940 Does it communicate on Facebook? What are the best ways? 2343 02:09:49,020 --> 02:09:50,140 And is that public? 2344 02:09:50,380 --> 02:09:53,020 So that everyone is involved in that. 2345 02:09:53,140 --> 02:09:56,780 Group, because we cannot deny public comment. David Kyle, you know. 2346 02:09:57,020 --> 02:09:58,700 Could you do that? Could you? 2347 02:09:58,940 --> 02:10:04,900 Facilitate using like the cities e-mail list to e-mail all of the houses in those neighborhoods to notify them when the. 2348 02:10:05,820 --> 02:10:06,740 You can't do that. 2349 02:10:07,180 --> 02:10:11,820 I think we can post it. We can post it and push it on the social media. Yeah, we can post on social media. We also just to answer 2350 02:10:11,820 --> 02:10:16,460 your question if you want a more immediate. 2351 02:10:16,980 --> 02:10:18,860 So we have an option to. 2352 02:10:19,100 --> 02:10:22,630 There were two Ezra sent in resolution. 2353 02:10:22,740 --> 02:10:23,340 But then. 2354 02:10:23,740 --> 02:10:26,260 The mayor's office has a resolution as well. 2355 02:10:26,340 --> 02:10:27,580 Filled with parking. 2356 02:10:27,980 --> 02:10:29,300 And it's. 2357 02:10:29,900 --> 02:10:31,780 Design more to work with up. 2358 02:10:32,180 --> 02:10:33,900 With the Neighborhood Shield. 2359 02:10:34,020 --> 02:10:34,700 It gives. 2360 02:10:34,820 --> 02:10:37,220 The administration more flexibility. 2361 02:10:37,580 --> 02:10:38,620 In terms of. 2362 02:10:38,780 --> 02:10:40,420 The timing of the enforcement. 2363 02:10:40,780 --> 02:10:44,300 So in theory, you could actually have enforcement instead of waiting until. 2364 02:10:44,860 --> 02:10:49,300 May and May we could be enforcing the middle of April, if not sooner. 2365 02:10:50,370 --> 02:10:54,810 Again, citizens haven't seen that one. Well, what? Yeah, No, no, it's online. It's online. It is online from you posted in the so 2366 02:10:54,810 --> 02:10:59,250 it. 2367 02:10:59,690 --> 02:11:06,090 When there was a miscommunication yesterday and it didn't go online until earlier today, but it's there. 2368 02:11:06,290 --> 02:11:07,130 Go ahead, Tony. 2369 02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:11,120 I have just. 2370 02:11:11,610 --> 02:11:12,690 A direct question. 2371 02:11:13,290 --> 02:11:15,610 For Vineyard government. 2372 02:11:15,690 --> 02:11:19,490 Point blank, what is your source of truth platform? How? 2373 02:11:19,610 --> 02:11:21,690 Do you want to communicate with? 2374 02:11:22,090 --> 02:11:23,370 Your neighborhood. 2375 02:11:23,810 --> 02:11:27,850 What is going to happen because I have no problem following a GroupMe. 2376 02:11:28,090 --> 02:11:33,170 A Facebook, but I do get app fatigue where I'm tired of getting notifications from the. 2377 02:11:33,290 --> 02:11:36,810 So I would like to see Vineyard. 2378 02:11:37,210 --> 02:11:37,930 Government. 2379 02:11:38,050 --> 02:11:45,100 Establish what the source of truth is. If I need to go check the government website because I want to be involved, I'll go there. 2380 02:11:45,250 --> 02:11:46,850 But to have all of these? 2381 02:11:47,010 --> 02:11:52,100 Right, good citizens are have good intentions and where everything has to be officiated anyway. 2382 02:11:52,330 --> 02:11:57,340 What is going to be the source of truth moving forward, even for a meeting on Thursday? 2383 02:11:57,770 --> 02:11:59,370 Where is that going to be public? 2384 02:12:00,090 --> 02:12:02,770 Or published, so we are aware of it. Yes, that's true. 2385 02:12:02,970 --> 02:12:05,010 So that's what we're going to say something. 2386 02:12:05,410 --> 02:12:07,610 Yeah, I just wanted to respond to a comment so. 2387 02:12:07,850 --> 02:12:10,170 I sent this resolution in on Friday. 2388 02:12:11,930 --> 02:12:12,970 Talk to the mayor. 2389 02:12:13,090 --> 02:12:14,210 Said yeah, there was. 2390 02:12:14,330 --> 02:12:15,410 Miscommunication. 2391 02:12:15,610 --> 02:12:17,130 We definitely need to do something. 2392 02:12:17,370 --> 02:12:19,330 We talked about it at the. 2393 02:12:19,770 --> 02:12:21,850 Saint Patrick's Day race which is great as well. 2394 02:12:23,010 --> 02:12:24,050 So I never. 2395 02:12:24,770 --> 02:12:30,090 It was never my intention to have you guys see this 24 hours in advance like those minor changes that. 2396 02:12:30,290 --> 02:12:31,570 I made from 2 weeks ago and. 2397 02:12:31,970 --> 02:12:33,890 Told you guys hey, there's a bunch of residents that. 2398 02:12:34,290 --> 02:12:36,690 Have talked about doing a solution like this. 2399 02:12:38,330 --> 02:12:42,250 That was never my intention, so I apologize if you did feel blindsided by that. 2400 02:12:43,010 --> 02:12:44,690 But I just want to thank the mayor for. 2401 02:12:45,170 --> 02:12:47,290 Including and revising the agenda and allowing. 2402 02:12:47,730 --> 02:12:50,250 Us to take action if we did choose to do so. 2403 02:12:50,770 --> 02:12:51,850 Today or. 2404 02:12:52,530 --> 02:12:54,330 Whenever we would like. 2405 02:12:54,450 --> 02:12:56,500 Yeah, let's do this. 2406 02:12:57,570 --> 02:12:58,090 Sorry. 2407 02:12:59,250 --> 02:13:02,010 So I just did. I just wanted to 1st like. 2408 02:13:02,170 --> 02:13:06,450 When Jacob said, hey, we're all trying to be on the same page and be willing to do something. 2409 02:13:07,310 --> 02:13:07,980 You have me. 2410 02:13:08,090 --> 02:13:11,650 Because that's exactly where we're wrong. Where do we just want something? 2411 02:13:11,730 --> 02:13:14,650 Yeah, for sure action and we wanted something that. 2412 02:13:14,970 --> 02:13:17,810 That's different than what we have said the last five years. 2413 02:13:17,890 --> 02:13:18,490 Yeah, OK. 2414 02:13:19,410 --> 02:13:21,770 I do have a little problem. 2415 02:13:21,970 --> 02:13:23,210 With believing. 2416 02:13:23,290 --> 02:13:25,490 That you guys got headed up 24 hours ago. 2417 02:13:25,970 --> 02:13:28,010 At least it's just hard. 2418 02:13:28,730 --> 02:13:31,930 And as a as a resident of this. 2419 02:13:32,290 --> 02:13:34,090 And as somebody that comes from. 2420 02:13:34,210 --> 02:13:37,330 To work like it is a little concerning. 2421 02:13:37,890 --> 02:13:39,290 To see how you. 2422 02:13:40,130 --> 02:13:41,410 Are interacting. 2423 02:13:42,450 --> 02:13:43,730 And and. 2424 02:13:44,770 --> 02:13:47,650 I just hope, and I'm going to give you all the benefit of doubt. 2425 02:13:47,890 --> 02:13:52,050 That you don't use these emotions to make decisions because that's the worst thing. 2426 02:13:52,690 --> 02:13:54,090 And you know. 2427 02:13:54,570 --> 02:13:55,930 So that being said. 2428 02:13:57,000 --> 02:13:58,800 Coming from the Naples, we did meet. 2429 02:13:58,930 --> 02:14:00,410 With the City Council member. 2430 02:14:01,280 --> 02:14:04,620 We did not have. We had about 10 or 15 people we talked about. 2431 02:14:04,730 --> 02:14:05,850 This permit plan. 2432 02:14:06,410 --> 02:14:08,250 So is that not official? 2433 02:14:08,370 --> 02:14:09,650 I mean, is that kind of? 2434 02:14:10,170 --> 02:14:16,410 And what what what makes it official? Did you put the plan? I mean, did you put the plan on every door like the agreed upon plan? 2435 02:14:16,530 --> 02:14:19,250 So that's that's is that's what makes it official is. 2436 02:14:19,370 --> 02:14:20,530 Well, I mean so. 2437 02:14:20,690 --> 02:14:22,650 We're going to be adjusting the right. 2438 02:14:23,170 --> 02:14:23,770 I mean, yeah. 2439 02:14:24,050 --> 02:14:25,770 We're going to be adjusting the ranks of. 2440 02:14:26,090 --> 02:14:30,450 Homeowners, right? Yeah. So public disclosure of this is happening. 2441 02:14:30,970 --> 02:14:32,410 Was it notified that? 2442 02:14:32,610 --> 02:14:34,810 The your first original meeting because. 2443 02:14:35,090 --> 02:14:37,370 Public, the public decision that we made. 2444 02:14:37,730 --> 02:14:38,410 Was. 2445 02:14:38,570 --> 02:14:43,810 Jacob, what is authorized to do this not as Renaissance? OK, so we didn't even know it was occurring. 2446 02:14:43,890 --> 02:14:45,410 Like I didn't know about your meeting. 2447 02:14:46,490 --> 02:14:49,410 And so and then so and I'm very. 2448 02:14:49,490 --> 02:14:51,130 There were angry calls last night. 2449 02:14:51,210 --> 02:14:52,090 To our city. 2450 02:14:52,570 --> 02:14:56,810 Manager and our attorney and I was like, how in the hell did this happen? Yeah. And why didn't I know? 2451 02:14:57,170 --> 02:15:00,010 And so I was like, we're going to have a bunch of people angry. 2452 02:15:00,210 --> 02:15:01,330 Who is their leader? 2453 02:15:01,610 --> 02:15:02,690 What is the document? 2454 02:15:02,810 --> 02:15:04,290 What decisions did they make? 2455 02:15:04,570 --> 02:15:05,690 What messaging? 2456 02:15:05,770 --> 02:15:06,930 System did you use? 2457 02:15:07,370 --> 02:15:08,570 Did we verify that? 2458 02:15:08,770 --> 02:15:12,850 Because we're going to be infringing upon people's rights to the public. Rd. 2459 02:15:13,450 --> 02:15:14,370 Like. 2460 02:15:14,570 --> 02:15:17,170 You know, putting in an HOA type. 2461 02:15:17,850 --> 02:15:18,970 Towing Enforcement. 2462 02:15:19,490 --> 02:15:22,930 Where we're deputizing them and not having us. 2463 02:15:23,090 --> 02:15:26,450 Is a massive change because none of these people moved into an HOA. 2464 02:15:26,770 --> 02:15:30,460 But we're going to be doing that, which if the group is deciding to do. 2465 02:15:30,690 --> 02:15:32,530 We're so aggressive in wanting to do. 2466 02:15:32,890 --> 02:15:35,050 Like legally, we did none of that. 2467 02:15:35,850 --> 02:15:39,730 And so like we want to move on doing and say, OK, we've got to this is the. 2468 02:15:39,810 --> 02:15:41,330 Communication system. 2469 02:15:41,410 --> 02:15:42,530 This is the notice. 2470 02:15:42,770 --> 02:15:45,570 So we can back it up and say we hit every single door. 2471 02:15:46,050 --> 02:15:48,300 We fired it. We did a second meeting. 2472 02:15:48,450 --> 02:15:49,090 And then we. 2473 02:15:49,170 --> 02:15:51,460 Put it on the City Council meeting for seven days. 2474 02:15:51,570 --> 02:15:56,050 And we came back and said, guys, we deputized this. And so none of those public actions. 2475 02:15:56,210 --> 02:15:59,170 What threshold threshold are you? 2476 02:15:59,370 --> 02:16:00,370 So like. 2477 02:16:02,500 --> 02:16:06,760 Historically in the city, the rule was 75% and we recognized that that was not realistic, especially in the seminar in the 2478 02:16:06,760 --> 02:16:11,020 Bridgeport areas where there's so many renters. 2479 02:16:11,130 --> 02:16:13,050 So we came back and we said, look, even if you're. 2480 02:16:13,210 --> 02:16:18,530 Close to 50%. We just want to make sure that there's an actual consensus because. 2481 02:16:18,650 --> 02:16:20,730 Both weeks that we've had this on the agenda. 2482 02:16:20,850 --> 02:16:26,330 We get blown up the night prior with angry emails that wonders is on the agenda and two people that don't support it. And I 2483 02:16:26,330 --> 02:16:31,810 recognize that it's unpopular to say, but we are also responsible for representing the renters in Vineyard. 2484 02:16:31,890 --> 02:16:37,030 Yeah. And look, we want to do what's best for the community at large and the homeowners and we want to make sure that this is a 2485 02:16:37,030 --> 02:16:42,170 safe place especially. That's why my focus is more on the safety aspect of it. 2486 02:16:42,290 --> 02:16:43,050 But it's. 2487 02:16:43,810 --> 02:16:45,050 We just have to make sure that. 2488 02:16:45,090 --> 02:16:50,050 Everyone is being notified and everyone's brought into the loop and that the information is being disseminated in a way that. 2489 02:16:50,090 --> 02:16:51,980 Everyone can participate and give public comment. 2490 02:16:53,090 --> 02:16:53,610 Yeah, and. 2491 02:16:54,770 --> 02:16:57,290 I was here 2 weeks ago you City Council meeting. 2492 02:16:57,450 --> 02:17:00,250 And this is your agenda from Vineyard website? 2493 02:17:01,890 --> 02:17:06,130 This is all it says. Council member would lead a brief discussion regarding proposed changes of towing enforcement. 2494 02:17:06,290 --> 02:17:08,570 There was discussion among council and residents. 2495 02:17:09,530 --> 02:17:11,410 Presented how to implement changes. 2496 02:17:11,610 --> 02:17:16,450 As well as how to counsel with HOA's, the council decided to continue the item and hold the. 2497 02:17:16,530 --> 02:17:21,130 Longer discussion at a later date, correct? That's a different. That's the. This is the tenant. 2498 02:17:21,290 --> 02:17:24,675 What's that correct? That that discussion was about lakefront? You're thinking the one that you want to know. This is predatory 2499 02:17:24,675 --> 02:17:28,060 touring 24 hour. 2500 02:17:28,210 --> 02:17:32,190 Correct. That's OK. But even 1 from 2 weeks prior, it would have been a month ago and even OK. So two weeks prior though we did 2501 02:17:32,190 --> 02:17:36,170 have a discussion about it again. 2502 02:17:36,890 --> 02:17:39,530 We talked about towing and we talked about enforcement. 2503 02:17:39,610 --> 02:17:41,610 Yeah, but but even very. 2504 02:17:42,090 --> 02:17:43,290 I think it's it's. 2505 02:17:43,530 --> 02:17:44,450 But even then. 2506 02:17:44,690 --> 02:17:46,050 But what I'm saying is you guys are. 2507 02:17:46,170 --> 02:17:49,530 Accusing us of political entrapment, which I think is a little bit extreme if I'm being, if I'm being honest, we have no idea and 2508 02:17:49,530 --> 02:17:52,890 like we're trying to like. 2509 02:17:52,970 --> 02:17:55,770 Ambush or something. This has been a problem we've been talking to you about for a long time, and the last I heard two weeks ago 2510 02:17:55,770 --> 02:17:58,570 we came. 2511 02:17:58,770 --> 02:18:00,330 With concerns and. 2512 02:18:00,450 --> 02:18:04,140 None of us got invited to a meeting or not. None of us. Maybe one of you, one of us did. 2513 02:18:04,410 --> 02:18:05,250 And so. 2514 02:18:05,930 --> 02:18:08,010 We want it to work, but I just don't want. 2515 02:18:08,290 --> 02:18:09,450 The political. 2516 02:18:09,570 --> 02:18:15,490 Politics to get in the way of like what's what well, it is right now it's getting in the way of it right now because you're 2517 02:18:15,490 --> 02:18:21,410 accusing us of trying to trap you into a vote I don't even think anybody in here has suggested has suggested that we. 2518 02:18:21,570 --> 02:18:25,860 Demanding a vote. We're just here to support. Like, that's why I'm here and that's why we come up here. 2519 02:18:26,010 --> 02:18:27,090 Is to support but. 2520 02:18:27,170 --> 02:18:29,130 To have you sit here and accuse us of. 2521 02:18:29,370 --> 02:18:34,530 Trying to go behind your back or something. It's just poor communication is what it ultimately is. You know what I mean? So. 2522 02:18:34,690 --> 02:18:36,890 We just, we just want a solution. I don't. 2523 02:18:37,050 --> 02:18:39,610 I'll work with anyone to get a solution, but. 2524 02:18:39,890 --> 02:18:42,090 All this talk about like we're trying to. 2525 02:18:42,250 --> 02:18:47,770 Trap you in to make a decision I think is just unproductive. So let's just have a let's just have a discussion about. 2526 02:18:48,130 --> 02:18:51,410 Or make a plan because the last meeting that I came to. 2527 02:18:51,490 --> 02:18:54,095 The thing was like we just talked about at a later date and then it got second and then it was off the table, you know what I 2528 02:18:54,095 --> 02:18:56,700 mean? So that's. 2529 02:18:56,770 --> 02:19:01,090 Let's just have some action that's that's still on, you know, let's do a motion. Let's do it. 2530 02:19:01,890 --> 02:19:03,370 I make a motion that. 2531 02:19:05,130 --> 02:19:07,690 A1 representative from each. 2532 02:19:08,890 --> 02:19:11,090 Neighborhood Can you stand up? 2533 02:19:11,370 --> 02:19:13,450 Not the leader that's selected, but just. 2534 02:19:13,810 --> 02:19:15,130 Get the message out, leader. 2535 02:19:15,210 --> 02:19:16,020 So we have. 2536 02:19:16,450 --> 02:19:17,050 There we go. 2537 02:19:17,410 --> 02:19:18,890 So you guys seminar. 2538 02:19:20,720 --> 02:19:21,660 Gardens. 2539 02:19:22,610 --> 02:19:23,690 Maples. 2540 02:19:24,650 --> 02:19:24,930 Hey. 2541 02:19:28,060 --> 02:19:29,300 Are you listening to? 2542 02:19:29,690 --> 02:19:31,730 OK, but it's just to get the message. 2543 02:19:32,450 --> 02:19:36,010 It's just to get the message out so that on social media. 2544 02:19:36,250 --> 02:19:39,410 We can help you and we can find all your Facebook groups. 2545 02:19:39,690 --> 02:19:41,010 So between here and then. 2546 02:19:41,210 --> 02:19:42,850 Are you guys able to act? 2547 02:19:43,210 --> 02:19:44,330 Thursday or Friday? 2548 02:19:45,050 --> 02:19:46,450 We have the interfaith thing Wednesday. 2549 02:19:46,970 --> 02:19:48,490 Tell me pregnant more people than negative. 2550 02:19:49,130 --> 02:19:50,650 OK, now. 2551 02:19:51,090 --> 02:19:54,170 We are we able to get printing out? 2552 02:19:54,490 --> 02:20:00,090 The doors on that meeting on all four neighborhoods, or could we get the printing off? 2553 02:20:00,290 --> 02:20:03,610 To get to these leaders that they could hit it on every door so we've. 2554 02:20:04,450 --> 02:20:07,650 Public notice. So we've fulfilled with public notice requirements. 2555 02:20:09,730 --> 02:20:14,370 That's a lot. I know. That's what I'm saying. So we've got to fulfill with that, right? We can't. 2556 02:20:14,570 --> 02:20:17,890 We don't want to get sued for not fulfilling the public, not like. 2557 02:20:18,130 --> 02:20:18,810 So. 2558 02:20:23,530 --> 02:20:25,930 It's like so we are thinking that it's similar. 2559 02:20:26,050 --> 02:20:28,980 But if we did it at the exact same day and time. 2560 02:20:29,130 --> 02:20:33,570 To find out in the meeting that you can separate it, let's just do this. What's your motion? 2561 02:20:33,690 --> 02:20:35,010 My motion is that. 2562 02:20:35,530 --> 02:20:38,410 We motion that these 4 individuals are. 2563 02:20:38,490 --> 02:20:39,370 Helping us. 2564 02:20:39,490 --> 02:20:41,730 And scheduling a meeting Thursday night. 2565 02:20:42,050 --> 02:20:45,010 And that that meeting will be convened to put together with. 2566 02:20:45,250 --> 02:20:49,150 All of their neighborhoods and we will go over the rules and regulations and options at the beginning of that meeting. We think we 2567 02:20:49,150 --> 02:20:53,050 can get that done in. 2568 02:20:53,450 --> 02:20:55,850 15 to 20, maybe 30 minutes. 2569 02:20:56,130 --> 02:21:01,330 And that those 4 neighborhoods or three depending on if they break up in the group when they talk. 2570 02:21:01,690 --> 02:21:05,050 Then break up and organize their decisions to come back. 2571 02:21:05,730 --> 02:21:07,050 And then we could go and. 2572 02:21:07,130 --> 02:21:08,210 Finalize that and. 2573 02:21:08,370 --> 02:21:09,450 Paper document. 2574 02:21:10,090 --> 02:21:11,690 And digitally as well. 2575 02:21:11,850 --> 02:21:16,170 So that the following Tuesday we can vote upon the plan of what those neighborhoods. 2576 02:21:17,010 --> 02:21:23,170 OK, awesome. Do I have a second on that tentatively, tentatively based upon the decisions of the, I mean obviously of? 2577 02:21:23,450 --> 02:21:24,450 The groups. 2578 02:21:24,730 --> 02:21:27,370 I think we have pretty much consensus. 2579 02:21:27,450 --> 02:21:30,290 Right. I think we there's a broad range of. 2580 02:21:30,650 --> 02:21:32,370 We're going to be doing something. 2581 02:21:32,850 --> 02:21:36,450 There's many different options of what that is, and it's individual. 2582 02:21:36,570 --> 02:21:37,650 Like on what it is. 2583 02:21:37,810 --> 02:21:40,610 But I would also ask that tomorrow I'm available. 2584 02:21:40,770 --> 02:21:45,210 So if we could meet the leaders to go through and educate about what those options are. So they're pre. 2585 02:21:45,410 --> 02:21:47,250 We could do an educational thing. 2586 02:21:47,370 --> 02:21:50,170 We could even do this straight like on a Facebook Live, so that it's a little bit easier for those to attend, like at 10:00 at 2587 02:21:50,170 --> 02:21:52,970 night. 2588 02:21:53,330 --> 02:21:55,610 Like we are more than willing to wait to go through. 2589 02:21:55,690 --> 02:21:59,620 And educate, but there's some tough decisions that you guys are going to make. That's a neighborhood. 2590 02:22:01,130 --> 02:22:05,090 Let's drive a second to that motion. That's a long motion, Kate. 2591 02:22:05,170 --> 02:22:07,690 Can I ask some clarifying questions? Yes. 2592 02:22:09,010 --> 02:22:09,970 So we'll notice it is a. 2593 02:22:10,130 --> 02:22:12,530 Public City Council meetings so that everybody can attend. 2594 02:22:12,610 --> 02:22:15,410 Yeah, that I know. That's a struggle too with just. 2595 02:22:15,570 --> 02:22:18,490 With the corn, do you want a corn? 2596 02:22:19,380 --> 02:22:20,660 I would like to attend. 2597 02:22:21,210 --> 02:22:26,210 The Jason boy will be there, so the three of us will be here. I don't have a vote, so you guys just tell me what to do. 2598 02:22:26,290 --> 02:22:26,970 So there's. 2599 02:22:28,010 --> 02:22:29,810 This is going to be. 2600 02:22:30,210 --> 02:22:33,130 And I'll just highlight like that, that's one of the struggles of. 2601 02:22:34,370 --> 02:22:36,730 You know, we have all these rules and regulations on. 2602 02:22:37,090 --> 02:22:39,010 Public meetings and we. 2603 02:22:39,650 --> 02:22:41,610 We noticed them on the Public Notes website. 2604 02:22:41,810 --> 02:22:45,970 So that we can all have. We can't meet five of us without going through all those steps. 2605 02:22:46,050 --> 02:22:50,940 And so that's why this this process and official council meetings are so important in my opinion. 2606 02:22:51,610 --> 02:22:55,490 I'm happy to call a special meeting if we would like to do that, just so everybody can attend. 2607 02:22:55,730 --> 02:22:56,570 But I don't. 2608 02:22:57,410 --> 02:23:00,130 I don't feel like limiting the discussion to just. 2609 02:23:00,250 --> 02:23:01,930 One or two council members is. 2610 02:23:02,210 --> 02:23:07,170 Better when we can just have it with all of us have it out. Yeah. Can we just bring the neighborhoods in? 2611 02:23:07,290 --> 02:23:11,250 Like 1 after another hour by hour block or something and just do it in here. 2612 02:23:11,690 --> 02:23:17,490 I think the semantics we can. So the motion is, the motion is we are going to. 2613 02:23:19,500 --> 02:23:28,020 Is that OK? Are you getting this, Tony? All right, so let's. I'm just glad, OK. All right. 2614 02:23:29,090 --> 02:23:30,210 This is the motion. 2615 02:23:30,290 --> 02:23:32,850 The motion is we are going to have a meeting. 2616 02:23:32,930 --> 02:23:35,690 On what is the motion, Jake? 2617 02:23:35,770 --> 02:23:37,930 Yeah, you said they're going to be meeting. 2618 02:23:39,250 --> 02:23:44,850 I make a motion that the four captains selected this evening from the four different neighborhoods. 2619 02:23:45,090 --> 02:23:48,410 Are going to be helping get out the word throughout their various. 2620 02:23:48,530 --> 02:23:51,490 Messaging apps the best that they can, all the different ones that are. 2621 02:23:51,690 --> 02:23:52,330 Available. 2622 02:23:52,850 --> 02:23:54,930 For a meeting on Thursday night. 2623 02:23:55,690 --> 02:23:59,250 We will allow for a different time flexibility. 2624 02:23:59,810 --> 02:24:02,570 That we hopefully at the end of this night we can find out. 2625 02:24:02,650 --> 02:24:03,370 And then? 2626 02:24:03,930 --> 02:24:05,050 In that meeting. 2627 02:24:05,410 --> 02:24:08,650 We will discuss the various options and we will pick leadership. 2628 02:24:08,890 --> 02:24:10,810 To be able to do it and hopefully present. 2629 02:24:10,970 --> 02:24:12,210 Basics of a plan. 2630 02:24:12,530 --> 02:24:16,130 That then can be sent out to the neighborhoods to be ratified. 2631 02:24:16,210 --> 02:24:19,130 Or voted on at the next City Council meeting on Tuesday. 2632 02:24:20,450 --> 02:24:21,530 March 31st. 2633 02:24:21,930 --> 02:24:22,610 31st. 2634 02:24:22,970 --> 02:24:24,850 OK, do I have a? 2635 02:24:25,730 --> 02:24:27,810 If they so need more help. 2636 02:24:27,890 --> 02:24:29,850 Or time you know there's. 2637 02:24:29,930 --> 02:24:31,250 Just there's. 2638 02:24:31,410 --> 02:24:33,450 Angry emails say I wasn't included. 2639 02:24:33,610 --> 02:24:36,770 But if if it's like, hey, but The thing is, is this this. 2640 02:24:37,450 --> 02:24:39,730 All right. That's my motion. That's your motion. 2641 02:24:40,370 --> 02:24:41,450 Do I have a second? 2642 02:24:43,320 --> 02:24:43,940 2nd. 2643 02:24:44,440 --> 02:24:45,800 Parker seconded. 2644 02:24:47,170 --> 02:24:48,410 All in favor, aye? 2645 02:24:50,090 --> 02:24:52,690 I, I what time is? 2646 02:24:52,770 --> 02:24:53,530 Tuesday's council. 2647 02:24:54,250 --> 02:24:57,130 Next 6:00 PM. Is that work for you? Yeah. 2648 02:24:57,210 --> 02:24:58,570 OK, we'll bring the 6:08 PM. 2649 02:25:00,210 --> 02:25:04,770 And and if if Jacob Wood says I so it doesn't. 2650 02:25:04,890 --> 02:25:06,690 I don't think I have anything else, can I? 2651 02:25:06,930 --> 02:25:10,370 Can I excuse myself to go meet with them throughout the rest of the meeting? 2652 02:25:10,530 --> 02:25:14,250 Just the leader, yes, let's do that. Because if we're going to do that next Tuesday, I've got to get through some other stuff 2653 02:25:14,250 --> 02:25:17,970 regarding the other things. So should we do like a? 2654 02:25:19,650 --> 02:25:20,490 Do you want to? 2655 02:25:21,170 --> 02:25:21,610 OK. 2656 02:25:23,340 --> 02:25:23,860 All right, we'll keep going. 2657 02:25:25,050 --> 02:25:25,810 All righty. 2658 02:25:26,530 --> 02:25:27,850 Motion passes. 2659 02:25:30,530 --> 02:25:32,770 OK. You guys want to recess? 2660 02:25:38,370 --> 02:25:41,290 The bathroom. Can you give me like 3 minutes? Give me like 3 minutes. 2661 02:25:44,170 --> 02:25:47,850 Yes, if you would like to reach this, we can hit the gavel. It doesn't count. 2662 02:25:49,490 --> 02:25:50,330 4 minute reset. 2663 02:25:54,010 --> 02:25:55,050 Good job, Mayor. 2664 02:25:56,170 --> 02:25:56,490 16. 2665 02:32:23,210 --> 02:32:26,930 You are live. OK, We are going to come out of recess now. 2666 02:32:29,250 --> 02:32:30,410 Get back after it. 2667 02:32:31,130 --> 02:32:31,210 Um. 2668 02:32:34,370 --> 02:32:38,130 So we need to do let's motion to move 8.6 to next week. 2669 02:32:39,130 --> 02:32:40,690 We need to officially do that right? 2670 02:32:40,770 --> 02:32:43,650 Move 8.6 next week. OK so can I get a motion? 2671 02:32:44,760 --> 02:32:48,980 I move, we continue 8.6 to next week. Tuesday's meeting. 2672 02:32:49,090 --> 02:32:51,210 You have a second, all right? All in favor. Aye, aye. 2673 02:32:51,930 --> 02:32:53,050 OK, motion passes. 2674 02:32:53,130 --> 02:32:55,610 All right, let's jump down to. We're going to go to the. 2675 02:32:56,370 --> 02:32:58,050 Arch Commission. 2676 02:32:58,210 --> 02:33:01,050 Portion 10.2 Let's go arch. 2677 02:33:02,010 --> 02:33:03,290 Teddy. 2678 02:33:03,970 --> 02:33:06,970 OK, discussion, right? I'm just gonna do it from over here. 2679 02:33:07,050 --> 02:33:08,690 You're all by yourself. Where did 1 go? 2680 02:33:11,850 --> 02:33:12,570 There we go. 2681 02:33:12,690 --> 02:33:13,930 All right, go ahead, Brian. 2682 02:33:14,290 --> 02:33:14,610 OK. 2683 02:33:16,730 --> 02:33:17,850 Apologize for the wait. 2684 02:33:20,410 --> 02:33:22,090 But yeah, so essentially. 2685 02:33:23,730 --> 02:33:25,500 Have some final thoughts for you? 2686 02:33:26,650 --> 02:33:28,690 When we met with the Arts Commission. 2687 02:33:28,850 --> 02:33:30,050 Last Thursday. 2688 02:33:30,490 --> 02:33:33,770 We didn't have enough to do a formal vote, but I got. 2689 02:33:34,290 --> 02:33:36,610 Basically their thoughts to bring before you. 2690 02:33:37,890 --> 02:33:39,010 We'll move forward with that. 2691 02:33:39,170 --> 02:33:41,770 Why is this not only had two commissioners there? Is that right? 2692 02:33:42,930 --> 02:33:46,530 We had three, but one of them had recused themselves of a vote. 2693 02:33:47,250 --> 02:33:49,450 And so we couldn't officially vote. 2694 02:33:50,130 --> 02:33:51,290 Something in particular. 2695 02:33:54,370 --> 02:33:55,290 Let's see. 2696 02:33:56,290 --> 02:33:58,210 Why is this showing up with two screens? 2697 02:33:58,370 --> 02:33:59,690 Oh, because we have. 2698 02:34:00,970 --> 02:34:03,330 So OK. 2699 02:34:03,530 --> 02:34:04,610 Legal counsel. 2700 02:34:04,970 --> 02:34:07,450 OK, well if you can't see this, I'll just go through this. 2701 02:34:07,530 --> 02:34:09,620 Briefly and I'll answer any questions that you have. 2702 02:34:10,330 --> 02:34:12,010 Vineyard Library had. 2703 02:34:12,530 --> 02:34:13,530 The highest? 2704 02:34:14,290 --> 02:34:16,930 Overall score from the Arts Commission. 2705 02:34:19,090 --> 02:34:22,130 3630 is the Max that they could get. 2706 02:34:22,810 --> 02:34:25,850 What was mentioned earlier by a resident is that. 2707 02:34:26,210 --> 02:34:32,370 There's potential they could get $130.00 less so it's between awarding full to Vineyard library. 2708 02:34:32,490 --> 02:34:35,490 Or Utah Valley Symphony down below. I'll go over that here in a second. 2709 02:34:37,020 --> 02:34:38,780 Friends of the Vineyard Library. 2710 02:34:38,850 --> 02:34:43,020 They requested 2000 they had the second highest vote from the Arts Commission. 2711 02:34:44,210 --> 02:34:46,010 They'd like all of them to. 2712 02:34:46,730 --> 02:34:48,490 They'd like them to get the full budget. 2713 02:34:48,930 --> 02:34:50,730 That specifically would. 2714 02:34:51,010 --> 02:34:54,250 Go towards a second weekly story time. 2715 02:34:54,730 --> 02:34:57,130 Paying for staff to do that, it would pay. 2716 02:34:57,850 --> 02:35:00,050 Also $800 worth. 2717 02:35:00,170 --> 02:35:01,890 To go towards adult. 2718 02:35:02,010 --> 02:35:02,610 Books. 2719 02:35:03,010 --> 02:35:06,130 For the library as currently we do not have any. 2720 02:35:06,730 --> 02:35:07,410 Adult. 2721 02:35:09,490 --> 02:35:10,010 Books. 2722 02:35:10,890 --> 02:35:11,570 For children. 2723 02:35:13,640 --> 02:35:17,540 $0.00 recommended for Carry On which is the skate park group. 2724 02:35:17,690 --> 02:35:19,530 Just put the skate park coming in. 2725 02:35:22,130 --> 02:35:23,930 Vineyard Heritage Foundation. 2726 02:35:24,170 --> 02:35:25,650 Reached out and said that. 2727 02:35:25,890 --> 02:35:29,290 Instead of their original request of 15,750. 2728 02:35:30,210 --> 02:35:31,170 That they could. 2729 02:35:31,330 --> 02:35:33,530 Make do and carry out the project. 2730 02:35:33,610 --> 02:35:34,690 For 11,000. 2731 02:35:36,480 --> 02:35:41,380 So it was talked about that we give them the full budget that they requested with that. 2732 02:35:42,170 --> 02:35:43,770 Utah Valley Symphony. 2733 02:35:43,930 --> 02:35:44,850 Is umm. 2734 02:35:45,650 --> 02:35:47,770 Again, either of those numbers. 2735 02:35:47,850 --> 02:35:51,210 And then Utah Lake Foundation would be 1500. 2736 02:35:51,770 --> 02:35:56,050 This is for a paddle with care event that starts in Vineyard. 2737 02:35:57,130 --> 02:35:59,210 And is about drowning prevention. 2738 02:36:00,460 --> 02:36:03,760 That holds the 20,000. Happy to go into more detail if you have more questions on specifically what all those would be allocated, 2739 02:36:03,760 --> 02:36:07,060 clarify earlier. 2740 02:36:07,170 --> 02:36:13,090 Right. It's where you have the oars on the top of the library and then for is that the Symphony? 2741 02:36:13,170 --> 02:36:13,810 Yes. Umm. 2742 02:36:15,360 --> 02:36:16,660 You did clarify that. 2743 02:36:16,890 --> 02:36:20,140 The difference is between those 2 exactly. 2744 02:36:20,450 --> 02:36:25,770 The Arts Commission, they were fine with either option, they said let the City Council decide how they want to. 2745 02:36:26,210 --> 02:36:26,700 Do that. 2746 02:36:27,860 --> 02:36:33,300 As far as Council discussion goes, if I can just jump into that, I would prefer that the funding goes to the library. 2747 02:36:34,810 --> 02:36:39,090 OK. Any other adjustments to this? 2748 02:36:43,330 --> 02:36:44,890 I would love to. 2749 02:36:46,040 --> 02:36:47,120 Do both kind of. 2750 02:36:49,770 --> 02:36:51,690 If we could give the one. 2751 02:36:51,770 --> 02:36:55,410 30 instead of taking me out of the Vineyard library, which is the government. 2752 02:36:55,850 --> 02:36:56,810 Operation umm. 2753 02:36:57,210 --> 02:36:58,850 The Friends of the Vineyard Library. 2754 02:37:00,290 --> 02:37:01,370 Takes donations. 2755 02:37:01,570 --> 02:37:02,450 And so if we could. 2756 02:37:02,650 --> 02:37:05,690 Take the 1:30 out of that and give it to the Symphony. 2757 02:37:06,290 --> 02:37:08,330 I'll backfill the rest. 2758 02:37:08,450 --> 02:37:09,210 If we want to do that. 2759 02:37:09,530 --> 02:37:10,730 Can I ask and? 2760 02:37:11,090 --> 02:37:14,450 Brian, chime in please, but also Ezra, share your thoughts. 2761 02:37:16,610 --> 02:37:18,220 What is the net? 2762 02:37:18,370 --> 02:37:20,450 Benefit of us giving to the Symphony. 2763 02:37:21,580 --> 02:37:25,620 Did they come and put on a show and then do they still charge us tickets and admission? 2764 02:37:26,170 --> 02:37:29,530 No, they'll put on a free show for Vineyard Days. 2765 02:37:30,170 --> 02:37:32,890 But the the main portion of this. 2766 02:37:33,250 --> 02:37:36,970 Budget is specifically to do a fanfare, so it'd be a recording. 2767 02:37:37,210 --> 02:37:40,610 That basically be a theme song for Vineyard for Vineyard events. 2768 02:37:42,770 --> 02:37:45,570 My personal thoughts and I've I've shared this. 2769 02:37:47,680 --> 02:37:48,860 Publicly before. 2770 02:37:49,370 --> 02:37:50,210 Was that? 2771 02:37:50,570 --> 02:37:52,660 I think that there's a lot of opportunity. 2772 02:37:53,050 --> 02:37:55,690 For the library to grow and what I. 2773 02:37:56,490 --> 02:37:57,130 Have. 2774 02:37:57,530 --> 02:38:01,090 Advocated for this money to be used for is to cede the. 2775 02:38:01,170 --> 02:38:02,210 Fundraising efforts. 2776 02:38:03,250 --> 02:38:05,020 And help with the. 2777 02:38:05,250 --> 02:38:08,010 I don't want to say revenue generating programs because the goal of the library isn't to generate, you know, a profit or anything 2778 02:38:08,010 --> 02:38:10,770 like that. 2779 02:38:10,890 --> 02:38:15,290 But to help implement the programs as necessary to cover the operating costs. 2780 02:38:16,330 --> 02:38:18,450 Right, for example. 2781 02:38:18,810 --> 02:38:21,540 One of the things that they're working on right now is implementing. 2782 02:38:22,090 --> 02:38:26,050 Payment essentially an annual fee for non residents. 2783 02:38:26,410 --> 02:38:28,290 To use our library card system. 2784 02:38:29,410 --> 02:38:33,010 With that, there will be expenses, things like payment processing fees. 2785 02:38:33,090 --> 02:38:34,610 So I'm I'm. 2786 02:38:35,370 --> 02:38:36,450 Interested in? 2787 02:38:37,170 --> 02:38:41,100 The allocation to support those type of efforts and then also support. 2788 02:38:41,610 --> 02:38:44,810 The Friends of Vineyard Library in their fundraising process. 2789 02:38:46,270 --> 02:38:48,140 You know I I have a question about. 2790 02:38:48,290 --> 02:38:50,530 About the library being funded at all. 2791 02:38:50,970 --> 02:38:52,090 Yeah, when we were. 2792 02:38:52,570 --> 02:39:00,370 When the previous mayor sold us on the library concept, it was going to be something that never cost the city a cent. 2793 02:39:01,210 --> 02:39:03,210 It was all we all we donated efforts. 2794 02:39:03,490 --> 02:39:04,810 And they? 2795 02:39:04,890 --> 02:39:08,850 They will use the old city, the old City Hall and torn down. 2796 02:39:10,010 --> 02:39:11,090 Use a room over there. 2797 02:39:11,370 --> 02:39:13,130 And it would be a children's library. 2798 02:39:13,490 --> 02:39:15,130 Children's books and so on and so forth. 2799 02:39:16,290 --> 02:39:18,650 OK, but we already have. 2800 02:39:18,730 --> 02:39:20,770 Four other children's libraries. 2801 02:39:20,890 --> 02:39:21,930 In the city. 2802 02:39:23,010 --> 02:39:25,370 Each of which has expressed. 2803 02:39:25,610 --> 02:39:26,450 Speaking to the. 2804 02:39:26,650 --> 02:39:29,490 Librarians and principles of the schools involved. 2805 02:39:29,850 --> 02:39:31,330 Have expressed that the. 2806 02:39:31,410 --> 02:39:34,130 I'm more than happy to to help the citizen. 2807 02:39:34,330 --> 02:39:35,090 A vineyard. 2808 02:39:35,930 --> 02:39:37,730 Whatever their library needs are. 2809 02:39:38,130 --> 02:39:40,530 And so it seems redundant. 2810 02:39:40,730 --> 02:39:41,610 To spend. 2811 02:39:42,690 --> 02:39:44,770 Not worthwhile for the city to spend money. 2812 02:39:45,250 --> 02:39:46,530 On a library system. 2813 02:39:46,650 --> 02:39:47,730 That's already built. 2814 02:39:47,810 --> 02:39:48,810 And already structured. 2815 02:39:48,970 --> 02:39:50,050 Already in place. 2816 02:39:50,730 --> 02:39:52,530 And this weren't happy to. 2817 02:39:53,090 --> 02:39:55,930 To work with us, I mean, if we have to spend some monies to. 2818 02:39:56,250 --> 02:39:56,970 To help the. 2819 02:39:57,690 --> 02:39:59,890 You know, library or libraries of choice. 2820 02:40:00,170 --> 02:40:01,050 Be able to handle. 2821 02:40:01,890 --> 02:40:03,170 You know, accepting. 2822 02:40:04,530 --> 02:40:08,130 Library cards from the, you know, from the public in general I could see that risk, but. 2823 02:40:08,290 --> 02:40:11,410 Well, why are we trying to recreate the wheel? We've already got four wheels. 2824 02:40:12,670 --> 02:40:14,870 So I think one of the. 2825 02:40:15,290 --> 02:40:16,210 I think let's. 2826 02:40:17,770 --> 02:40:18,770 Glad to ask Parker. 2827 02:40:19,490 --> 02:40:20,570 Something that I've been. 2828 02:40:20,970 --> 02:40:24,210 Looking at I've shared this with staff, I talked to the library board about it. 2829 02:40:24,890 --> 02:40:29,740 There was a lot of, I think, missed opportunity from the previous administration. 2830 02:40:29,970 --> 02:40:32,530 In recouping operating costs for the library. 2831 02:40:32,930 --> 02:40:34,730 And I don't want to say that it was. 2832 02:40:35,090 --> 02:40:35,770 You know. 2833 02:40:37,090 --> 02:40:38,970 Not to paint anyone in a negative light. 2834 02:40:39,410 --> 02:40:42,420 But action just wasn't ever taken to. 2835 02:40:42,770 --> 02:40:45,330 Make that as efficient as it could be. 2836 02:40:45,570 --> 02:40:50,170 And I see a lot of opportunity for the library to actually become truly self-sustaining. 2837 02:40:50,450 --> 02:40:54,890 And to envision that, I've met with the library board. I've met with the Friends of Vineyard Library. 2838 02:40:55,610 --> 02:40:56,970 And I think we have a pretty good. 2839 02:40:57,050 --> 02:40:58,290 Plan in place that would. 2840 02:40:58,890 --> 02:41:00,130 Essentially. 2841 02:41:01,010 --> 02:41:02,570 If implemented appropriately. 2842 02:41:03,690 --> 02:41:09,010 Significantly raised their operating budget. They just need the help to get to the point to actually be able to do that. 2843 02:41:09,090 --> 02:41:09,810 At this point. 2844 02:41:11,340 --> 02:41:11,900 Awesome. 2845 02:41:12,870 --> 02:41:13,870 Any other comments? 2846 02:41:14,370 --> 02:41:15,810 About 10.2. 2847 02:41:17,290 --> 02:41:19,570 OK, seeing none, I will take a motion. 2848 02:41:20,050 --> 02:41:20,930 Oh, hi, Jacob. 2849 02:41:23,530 --> 02:41:24,850 I'll motion to. 2850 02:41:25,650 --> 02:41:27,220 Approve the. 2851 02:41:28,050 --> 02:41:29,730 Recommendations with with. 2852 02:41:29,850 --> 02:41:32,010 The noted adjustment to move. 2853 02:41:32,450 --> 02:41:35,980 $130.00 from the Friends of Vineyard library to. 2854 02:41:36,450 --> 02:41:38,050 The Utah Valley Symphony. 2855 02:41:38,860 --> 02:41:43,620 And I want to include it in the motion because it'll just be a personal donation, so. 2856 02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:45,750 OK. All right. 2857 02:41:46,490 --> 02:41:47,330 Do I have a second? 2858 02:41:50,880 --> 02:41:51,560 OK. Sorry, hold on. 2859 02:41:52,010 --> 02:41:54,450 You said you were going to make a personal donation to. 2860 02:41:54,530 --> 02:41:55,170 Recoup the. 2861 02:41:55,650 --> 02:41:56,210 Money that. 2862 02:41:56,530 --> 02:41:59,490 Advocating to pull out. Why wouldn't you just donate it to the Symphony then? 2863 02:42:00,600 --> 02:42:02,680 I don't know how to donate to the Symphony but OK. 2864 02:42:04,450 --> 02:42:04,530 So. 2865 02:42:06,330 --> 02:42:07,730 That wasn't part of the motion. 2866 02:42:07,810 --> 02:42:09,010 So the motion is. 2867 02:42:09,930 --> 02:42:11,970 Holy smokes, tonight is a. 2868 02:42:12,090 --> 02:42:14,250 All right, one more time is there. 2869 02:42:14,370 --> 02:42:15,170 Somebody. 2870 02:42:16,690 --> 02:42:18,770 Yes, fund the recommendations as is with. 2871 02:42:18,810 --> 02:42:21,380 Moving 130 from the Friends of the Vineyard Library. 2872 02:42:21,490 --> 02:42:23,850 The nonprofit that'll have the donation like that, I've got. 2873 02:42:24,490 --> 02:42:25,490 To the Utah. 2874 02:42:26,330 --> 02:42:27,450 Awesome, do I have a second? 2875 02:42:28,050 --> 02:42:28,570 2nd. 2876 02:42:28,930 --> 02:42:30,490 All right. All in favor, aye. 2877 02:42:31,800 --> 02:42:34,580 Aye, aye. Motion passes. 2878 02:42:35,050 --> 02:42:38,730 OK guys, we're getting stuff done tonight. Two things. One, now that is in motion. 2879 02:42:39,330 --> 02:42:43,610 Thank you, Short and sweet 2. It's a resolution. This is a resolution that is right. So let's do a roll call. Council member 2880 02:42:43,610 --> 02:42:47,890 Mccumber votes aye. 2881 02:42:49,330 --> 02:42:50,610 Councilman of Wood votes aye. 2882 02:42:52,710 --> 02:42:57,740 This is the same thing. Same vote. Yeah. Same vote. Yeah. It's a it's a resolution. The race is yes. 2883 02:42:58,460 --> 02:43:00,740 OK, Councilman Renair. 2884 02:43:01,650 --> 02:43:02,690 Yes, yes. 2885 02:43:02,850 --> 02:43:03,490 Great. Yeah. 2886 02:43:04,890 --> 02:43:07,090 All righty 10.3. 2887 02:43:08,430 --> 02:43:10,430 Creation of an event committee and off. 2888 02:43:10,810 --> 02:43:11,890 Authorization. 2889 02:43:12,650 --> 02:43:15,020 For the committee to establish a nonprofit. 2890 02:43:15,370 --> 02:43:18,090 DK do you want to? David Child, do you want to? 2891 02:43:18,210 --> 02:43:20,260 Explain this real quick the thought behind. 2892 02:43:20,410 --> 02:43:22,290 This yes so. 2893 02:43:22,410 --> 02:43:23,050 This. 2894 02:43:23,130 --> 02:43:25,450 What what this will do? 2895 02:43:25,530 --> 02:43:26,450 Is this full? 2896 02:43:27,370 --> 02:43:29,970 Create a nonprofit where? 2897 02:43:31,010 --> 02:43:33,260 Volunteers from our city. 2898 02:43:34,450 --> 02:43:37,850 Can raise funds for Vineyard events. 2899 02:43:37,930 --> 02:43:38,660 And. 2900 02:43:38,770 --> 02:43:39,490 Vineyard. 2901 02:43:40,090 --> 02:43:42,290 Projects that will benefit the community. 2902 02:43:43,450 --> 02:43:47,250 And it will also establish a committee under the direction of the City Council. 2903 02:43:47,610 --> 02:43:48,490 To administrate. 2904 02:43:51,290 --> 02:43:51,930 Awesome. 2905 02:43:52,010 --> 02:43:53,490 Any questions for David Kyle? 2906 02:43:55,590 --> 02:43:57,500 OK, sorry I didn't say. 2907 02:43:57,650 --> 02:44:00,970 Is there a backup document on this or is that just the broad direction would be? 2908 02:44:01,290 --> 02:44:04,170 Did they not get the back of that? 2909 02:44:05,410 --> 02:44:05,690 OK. 2910 02:44:07,900 --> 02:44:08,540 It should be on there. 2911 02:44:10,580 --> 02:44:17,500 I got some of those angry emails about parking in here. 2912 02:44:19,970 --> 02:44:21,210 There's even more. 2913 02:44:24,250 --> 02:44:26,330 If we get an e-mail, we put it in your packet. 2914 02:44:26,490 --> 02:44:27,770 Thank you for that. 2915 02:44:28,170 --> 02:44:28,730 OK. 2916 02:44:31,160 --> 02:44:32,000 I don't see. 2917 02:44:32,570 --> 02:44:36,810 Is it in my resolution funding? No, it's not electronic. 2918 02:44:37,330 --> 02:44:40,410 I'd like to get that. Would you like to put it on the screens? 2919 02:44:45,490 --> 02:44:46,570 How long is it? 2920 02:44:46,650 --> 02:44:49,210 Oh, go ahead. Oh, it's not online to you. 2921 02:44:49,490 --> 02:44:50,290 That's the. 2922 02:44:52,050 --> 02:44:55,690 I don't know why the creation of this Commission. 2923 02:44:56,210 --> 02:44:56,810 What's that? 2924 02:44:57,210 --> 02:45:00,090 Are you tying any funding to the creation of this Commission? No. 2925 02:45:03,520 --> 02:45:04,120 Is it a? 2926 02:45:05,570 --> 02:45:09,930 Continual Commission in the sense that it will operate 365 days a year, or is it? 2927 02:45:10,410 --> 02:45:17,330 Exclusive maybe springtime through Vineyard days each year. It will help facilitate all Vineyard events. OK. 2928 02:45:18,380 --> 02:45:19,300 So all year. 2929 02:45:22,280 --> 02:45:26,500 I'm supportive of the concept. Could we maybe just continue this to the next week meeting so we can? 2930 02:45:26,690 --> 02:45:27,450 Have the backup. 2931 02:45:27,610 --> 02:45:28,210 So that. 2932 02:45:28,650 --> 02:45:29,730 He's gonna pull it up. 2933 02:45:29,810 --> 02:45:31,540 Yeah, that's what he's trying to do right now. 2934 02:45:33,170 --> 02:45:34,770 OK. Can we take public comment on it? 2935 02:45:35,370 --> 02:45:38,970 Yes, well, it's here we go. I guess it's right here. 2936 02:45:41,370 --> 02:45:42,970 We've had plenty of problems. 2937 02:45:47,850 --> 02:45:49,730 You can't say that you're the mayor. 2938 02:45:50,620 --> 02:45:53,260 I'm inclusive in all decisions. 2939 02:45:56,410 --> 02:45:57,810 Not made it. 2940 02:46:00,210 --> 02:46:01,970 I'm sorry. OK, let me. 2941 02:46:02,370 --> 02:46:03,090 Ninja. 2942 02:46:12,210 --> 02:46:12,970 Please. 2943 02:46:28,130 --> 02:46:28,810 He's gone again. 2944 02:46:34,040 --> 02:46:37,120 I don't read that fast. 2945 02:46:39,450 --> 02:46:42,130 Staggered terms for two or four years. 2946 02:46:43,170 --> 02:46:43,530 Chair. 2947 02:46:45,690 --> 02:46:47,170 OK, so this is like an official. 2948 02:46:48,490 --> 02:46:50,450 What's the advisory? Is it advisory? 2949 02:46:51,010 --> 02:46:52,330 Can I get a week on this? 2950 02:46:52,410 --> 02:46:53,010 Is there? 2951 02:46:53,090 --> 02:46:54,050 Is there code? 2952 02:46:54,130 --> 02:46:56,210 Associated with the creation of this that's. 2953 02:46:56,650 --> 02:46:58,610 Is it in this packet? We just haven't got to it yet. 2954 02:46:59,350 --> 02:47:01,950 This I mean this resolution creates the. 2955 02:47:02,330 --> 02:47:03,450 Commission, OK. 2956 02:47:06,720 --> 02:47:11,100 We already have. We already have code for. I think it would be. 2957 02:47:11,210 --> 02:47:12,090 I think it would be. 2958 02:47:12,210 --> 02:47:18,810 You know, being that we're going to have a merge, a special session next Tuesday, it would work to. 2959 02:47:19,010 --> 02:47:21,450 Move this Tuesday. 2960 02:47:21,690 --> 02:47:27,090 That is special in the sense that it's outside the regular, it's outside of the regular schedule. I already planned my vacation. 2961 02:47:29,730 --> 02:47:30,770 Yeah, if. 2962 02:47:31,170 --> 02:47:35,330 If there's not an immediate urgency for this there, there is an emergency. 2963 02:47:35,490 --> 02:47:37,170 Because we'd like to use it for. 2964 02:47:37,490 --> 02:47:44,770 For Vineyard days coming up, however, we could, do you know, another week for work Tuesday? Yes, Yes, exactly. Yes, fine. 2965 02:47:44,850 --> 02:47:47,650 We don't. We don't need it tonight, but we don't need it in a month. 2966 02:47:47,970 --> 02:47:48,890 Understood. OK. 2967 02:47:49,610 --> 02:47:50,370 Did you have? 2968 02:47:50,970 --> 02:47:52,610 I would like public comment. 2969 02:47:53,850 --> 02:47:55,290 To ask if it could be. 2970 02:47:56,410 --> 02:47:59,290 Yeah, I agree with that. I agree to move it. 2971 02:47:59,370 --> 02:48:04,970 I think it would be a great idea, David. So could you make a motion, Ezra? I will move to continue this one week second. 2972 02:48:05,610 --> 02:48:06,370 All in favor. 2973 02:48:06,930 --> 02:48:07,130 Aye. 2974 02:48:08,570 --> 02:48:09,210 Awesome. 2975 02:48:09,810 --> 02:48:11,090 Jump to the. 2976 02:48:12,200 --> 02:48:12,980 That's it, Don. 2977 02:48:13,130 --> 02:48:15,130 No, hey, we got the travel policy. 2978 02:48:16,510 --> 02:48:17,580 Oh, we went out of order. 2979 02:48:17,730 --> 02:48:18,530 Yes, we did. 2980 02:48:18,730 --> 02:48:24,170 OK oh, travel policy. I'm so glad I got a pen out of this meeting. 2981 02:48:27,890 --> 02:48:30,330 So on the travel policy, I know. 2982 02:48:30,490 --> 02:48:32,730 I know we had a lot of comments in the work session. 2983 02:48:33,300 --> 02:48:36,580 Did all those get on there because. 2984 02:48:37,690 --> 02:48:38,650 One was. 2985 02:48:38,810 --> 02:48:42,050 35 miles on the 50. I thought we wanted to try to standardize that, but. 2986 02:48:42,610 --> 02:48:44,970 I think all the other comments got on there. 2987 02:48:46,950 --> 02:48:49,870 Yeah, I think we still need to adjust the. 2988 02:48:51,090 --> 02:48:55,190 Was it the language and the resolution or the language in the just the actual policy itself I think was the issue. Is it just 2989 02:48:55,190 --> 02:48:59,290 standardization of like the the miles? 2990 02:48:59,650 --> 02:49:02,770 Just making sure reconciling I believe it was. 2991 02:49:03,570 --> 02:49:04,900 It was 50 miles. 2992 02:49:05,770 --> 02:49:09,250 Like we had the, we talked about it last week, but you've got. 2993 02:49:09,330 --> 02:49:13,610 You know, approval for anything beyond 50 miles. But then we have like. 2994 02:49:14,170 --> 02:49:14,970 You could get. 2995 02:49:15,370 --> 02:49:19,530 Nighttime or what was the 35 miles to the local travel or? 2996 02:49:20,350 --> 02:49:21,300 The other one. 2997 02:49:21,410 --> 02:49:23,970 Yeah, we just want to make sure that the wording was right, yeah. 2998 02:49:24,850 --> 02:49:28,090 OK, I didn't like read through and make sure all the red lines got adopted, but I just saw that one in there and that was like, 2999 02:49:28,090 --> 02:49:31,330 oh. 3000 02:49:31,530 --> 02:49:34,810 Yeah, sorry. I might have been working with the order draft of that. 3001 02:49:35,650 --> 02:49:36,210 Packet so. 3002 02:49:40,050 --> 02:49:41,530 Our goal is to get. 3003 02:49:41,610 --> 02:49:45,370 Is to try and get at least a few of these each month. A few of these. 3004 02:49:45,450 --> 02:49:51,690 Policies in place so we can picking them off 1 by 1, taking them off one at a time so we can pass our next audit. 3005 02:49:52,090 --> 02:49:52,450 OK. 3006 02:49:57,750 --> 02:50:00,940 We're super close on this. I mean, I feel like a work session. We all kind of. 3007 02:50:01,050 --> 02:50:02,090 We're on the same page. 3008 02:50:02,570 --> 02:50:03,570 Can we just get? 3009 02:50:04,090 --> 02:50:07,690 Any public comment if the public has any comments and then approve it on consent on. 3010 02:50:08,210 --> 02:50:09,850 Next Tuesday if we need to do that. 3011 02:50:10,330 --> 02:50:12,170 Just to make sure all the edits got an error. 3012 02:50:12,250 --> 02:50:17,220 If we can go through that, it's now and make sure yeah, I just I just read it and I think this looks. 3013 02:50:17,410 --> 02:50:20,010 Fine, I didn't see anything. That's a red flag to me now. 3014 02:50:20,090 --> 02:50:21,730 You want to. We can read it together. 3015 02:50:22,860 --> 02:50:25,380 But I'm happy to continue it. If you want to continue it and take more public comment on it, you know what, let's just approve it 3016 02:50:25,380 --> 02:50:27,900 and then just. 3017 02:50:28,010 --> 02:50:30,970 Clean it up so like take the brackets out since we already decided that. 3018 02:50:31,650 --> 02:50:32,650 Put it all in. 3019 02:50:32,810 --> 02:50:35,090 The standard language and you guys can make those. 3020 02:50:35,210 --> 02:50:40,330 Sounds good technical, and it's something Lizzie kind of like approved with the edits made during the last. There we go. 3021 02:50:41,570 --> 02:50:42,130 Awesome. 3022 02:50:42,830 --> 02:50:43,700 Can I get a motion? 3023 02:50:44,330 --> 02:50:49,190 I move to approve Resolution number 202618, a resolution adopting travel and expense reimbursement policy for personnel and 3024 02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:54,050 authorized representatives with. 3025 02:50:54,780 --> 02:50:59,300 The edits and clarifications that we made in the previous City Council meeting. 3026 02:51:00,170 --> 02:51:02,010 Awesome. Thank you. Awesome. 3027 02:51:02,570 --> 02:51:03,290 All in favor. 3028 02:51:04,530 --> 02:51:04,810 Aye, OK. 3029 02:51:06,890 --> 02:51:09,050 That's a resolution, so we'll call. 3030 02:51:09,290 --> 02:51:10,130 Councilmember. 3031 02:51:10,210 --> 02:51:11,530 Parker Mccumber votes aye. 3032 02:51:12,250 --> 02:51:13,130 Would votes aye? 3033 02:51:15,370 --> 02:51:15,690 Aye. 3034 02:51:16,450 --> 02:51:17,010 Awesome. 3035 02:51:17,490 --> 02:51:19,330 Aye, resolution passes. 3036 02:51:19,530 --> 02:51:22,970 OK. So the last is going to be department appointment of? 3037 02:51:23,370 --> 02:51:25,050 The Planning Commission appointment. 3038 02:51:25,530 --> 02:51:28,690 We have a empty seat in our Planning Commission. 3039 02:51:28,890 --> 02:51:29,490 And uh. 3040 02:51:29,610 --> 02:51:33,530 I AM. 3041 02:51:34,170 --> 02:51:34,850 Asking. 3042 02:51:34,930 --> 02:51:36,610 That we appoint Daria. 3043 02:51:37,570 --> 02:51:40,410 Evans to fulfill that vacancy. 3044 02:51:41,080 --> 02:51:41,720 So moved. 3045 02:51:42,880 --> 02:51:43,440 2nd. 3046 02:51:43,960 --> 02:51:44,720 All in favor. 3047 02:51:45,240 --> 02:51:45,720 Aye, aye. 3048 02:51:46,680 --> 02:51:51,160 Wait, hold on, is this a? This is a consent of the. 3049 02:51:52,520 --> 02:51:54,680 This one does not need a. 3050 02:51:56,330 --> 02:51:56,610 Awesome. 3051 02:51:57,400 --> 02:52:00,680 Congratulations, welcome. Thank you for your willingness to serve. 3052 02:52:00,880 --> 02:52:01,840 Sure. Appreciate it. 3053 02:52:02,040 --> 02:52:06,000 OK. All right. That's all we have. I think that's all we have for tonight. 3054 02:52:06,840 --> 02:52:07,200 And. 3055 02:52:10,920 --> 02:52:17,560 Yeah, that's right. Where are you in tonight? Please talk to us about how you're going to. 3056 02:52:17,760 --> 02:52:18,160 No. 3057 02:52:21,920 --> 02:52:27,240 So yes, let me make sure I have the wording right, because as many times as I do it, I'll forget it once. 3058 02:52:28,040 --> 02:52:30,840 While you're pulling that up, if I could just have a. 3059 02:52:30,920 --> 02:52:31,840 Point of. 3060 02:52:32,400 --> 02:52:33,120 Privilege. 3061 02:52:34,560 --> 02:52:36,000 Thank you all for the discussion tonight. 3062 02:52:36,080 --> 02:52:37,160 I know things. 3063 02:52:38,100 --> 02:52:41,490 He did it and I'm bummed that everybody left before they got to see us. 3064 02:52:42,080 --> 02:52:43,880 Cordially getting business done as well. 3065 02:52:44,600 --> 02:52:45,400 But I I've. 3066 02:52:45,640 --> 02:52:46,480 I've got no. 3067 02:52:47,160 --> 02:52:48,960 Personal animus towards anyone. 3068 02:52:49,680 --> 02:52:52,000 I respect all of our our council members and. 3069 02:52:52,240 --> 02:52:54,360 I know there's mutual respect there and. 3070 02:52:55,160 --> 02:52:59,840 Just grateful to to serve on this on this board and what these great people and residents that are. 3071 02:53:00,240 --> 02:53:01,680 Engaged, involved and. 3072 02:53:01,880 --> 02:53:03,000 So thank you so much for. 3073 02:53:03,520 --> 02:53:04,440 Being here and. 3074 02:53:04,600 --> 02:53:05,280 Participating. 3075 02:53:05,990 --> 02:53:06,610 Thank you. 3076 02:53:06,880 --> 02:53:08,080 All right, we have the. 3077 02:53:09,480 --> 02:53:11,760 Come on up here, let's get a picture of are you guys. 3078 02:53:15,520 --> 02:53:15,880 Yeah. 3079 02:53:25,960 --> 02:53:27,160 Please right hand for me. 3080 02:53:28,280 --> 02:53:28,840 OK. 3081 02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:32,080 OK, let's get in the background. 3082 02:53:37,010 --> 02:53:39,930 This is so awesome. Make sure you get the wording right here. 3083 02:53:41,160 --> 02:53:42,520 Yeah, no pressure, right? 3084 02:53:43,120 --> 02:53:46,800 All right, let's go ahead and repeat after me. I state your name. 3085 02:53:46,920 --> 02:53:47,880 Aria Evans. 3086 02:53:47,960 --> 02:53:49,280 Hi, Maria Evans. 3087 02:53:49,760 --> 02:53:51,040 Having been appointed. 3088 02:53:51,320 --> 02:53:54,720 Having been appointed to the Planning Commission to the Planning Commission. 3089 02:53:54,920 --> 02:53:57,320 Do solemnly swear. 3090 02:53:57,840 --> 02:53:58,640 To. 3091 02:54:01,000 --> 02:54:02,760 Support, obey, and defend. 3092 02:54:03,120 --> 02:54:04,680 Support, obey, and defend. 3093 02:54:05,360 --> 02:54:10,760 The Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Utah. 3094 02:54:10,840 --> 02:54:14,720 And the constitution of the State of Utah, and then I will discharge the duties. 3095 02:54:14,880 --> 02:54:18,040 And then I will just start discharge the duties of my office. 3096 02:54:18,920 --> 02:54:19,800 With Fidelity. 3097 02:54:20,640 --> 02:54:21,560 Outstanding. 3098 02:54:26,800 --> 02:54:32,040 The pressure on you. 3099 02:54:34,400 --> 02:54:34,920 Thanks so much. 3100 02:54:36,360 --> 02:54:37,640 Thank you. Thank. 3101 02:54:39,000 --> 02:54:40,000 Thank you, Jacob. Thank you. 3102 02:54:41,880 --> 02:54:42,760 Whenever I get to that song.