[4:23] We ready to go, Tony?
[4:25] OK, we ready.
[4:29] All righty guys.
[4:32] Welcome, welcome. It is 8.
[4:34] 30 umm.
[4:36] Say 30 on the dot according my watch.
[4:38] So I am Mayor Zach Stratton. We're going to go ahead and get started.
[4:42] Usually I'm pretty good at getting someone to say the opening prayer and pledge, but you have a volunteer is anyone?
[4:48] Please come.
[4:52] All right, come on down.
[4:55] Love it.
[4:56] So prayer first.
[4:58] And then we'll do Pledge of Allegiance and then.
[5:00] Guess what?
[5:01] You get a pen.
[5:03] I don't need it. I have one. All right. You already got one. OK, Sounds good.
[5:08] Just so everyone's aware, like.
[5:12] I don't believe it, but like.
[5:15] Nomination. So you're, you're good.
[5:36] Father.
[5:42] First and foremost.
[5:46] I give you the glory.
[5:49] Tonight. Tonight.
[5:51] 1st thank you for answering my prayers.
[5:55] I've prayed for.
[5:57] Fingers for somebody.
[6:00] Years and I'm so grateful tonight.
[6:03] For the Flyers that made it into the hearts of our neighbors.
[6:08] Our friends and our community who truly want change.
[6:15] Father. I asked.
[6:17] Forgive this for not stepping up.
[6:20] I pray that.
[6:21] Those who speak tonight.
[6:28] We'll speak from her heart.
[6:33] And what April is true?
[6:38] Father I'm grateful for.
[6:42] My brothers and sisters in Christ.
[6:44] Who truly want change for the better for our families.
[6:48] So that we can remember the easy things that you've taught us to serve our neighbors.
[6:54] To love her neighbors.
[6:55] Do you even love our enemies?
[6:58] And while we're not sure.
[6:59] Pray. So I pray that tonight.
[7:04] Even if it's just one person.
[7:06] Brings you closer for guidance.
[7:11] He can praise.
[7:13] In the name of.
[7:16] Joey.
[7:20] My teacher.
[7:25] Friend and neighbor and everything that I need, I pray in this mighty and sacred name.
[7:30] Amen. Amen. Thank you.
[7:33] OK, let's do the Pledge of Allegiance.
[7:39] You actually I pledge allegiance to the flag.
[7:46] And to the Republic for which it stands.
[7:49] One nation under God. God.
[7:51] Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
[7:58] OK.
[8:01] It is standing room only tonight. I love it.
[8:04] OK. Couple of things is.
[8:08] I wanted to.
[8:11] Just kind of lay some.
[8:12] First off.
[8:13] Thank you so much for that prayer.
[8:18] I think it really captured the spirit.
[8:21] And I hope that.
[8:24] As I speak for the next couple of minutes, you guys will understand my heart.
[8:29] We're all dealing with the situation.
[8:32] That by and large, we didn't inherit.
[8:38] But we want to fix it.
[8:41] And as we go throughout this meeting and we go throughout this work session and the Council deliberates.
[8:48] I ask.
[8:51] That we seek to understand and to be understood.
[8:56] I think that's really, really important in this situation.
[9:01] As the mayor, the good thing?
[9:05] In this new form of government, one of the.
[9:08] One of the best parts about it is I don't have a vote.
[9:12] But I can put things on the agenda.
[9:16] And so my commitment to the community.
[9:18] Is as long as.
[9:21] The community feels that we need to put this on the agenda, to keep discussing it and tweaking it and whatever the outcome is.
[9:28] That's my commitment, that we will keep working at this.
[9:31] I ran a campaign on two things.
[9:34] Really two things. First was the lower property taxes and second really was to fix this parking issue.
[9:40] And this issue didn't.
[9:43] It didn't happen overnight.
[9:46] But we are going to do everything we can, and we're going to.
[9:49] What I'm trying to say is it's going to take a.
[9:51] Probably gonna take a minute to fix it, but we are.
[9:53] Gonna My commitment is we're gonna keep working at it.
[9:58] So a couple things.
[10:00] There will be time for public comment.
[10:03] But I.
[10:04] I've thought about this and we're gonna.
[10:06] I want to. I think it'd be in.
[10:07] Important in the spirit of seeking to understand and be understood.
[10:11] To have some deliberation with counsel first.
[10:14] And so people can kind of see the process that we're thinking.
[10:18] And then?
[10:19] Comment afterwards. We haven't had really a good opportunity I feel like.
[10:24] Especially with this many people here to kind of talk.
[10:26] As a council, the council to talk and.
[10:29] The process through it.
[10:32] I'm gonna be. I'm really gonna have to, probably.
[10:37] I'm a my type of leadership and how I run meetings. I'm pretty free flowing, but I think tonight we might have to run it a little
[10:42] tighter than I do in the past.
[10:47] And so how it works is if there's a comment.
[10:51] I ask you to direct it to the chair of the meeting, which is the mayor.
[10:54] So directed towards me.
[10:55] I'm gonna ask. They're gonna hold their comments till the end.
[10:58] And we're going to kind of work through this, but I promise that.
[11:02] This will not be the first time we discuss this problem.
[11:05] I again.
[11:08] I want to fix two things.
[11:10] I want to fix the property taxes here. I am so mad about those OK personally.
[11:16] I feel that a lot of.
[11:17] I'm not going to get into it.
[11:19] That's a whole and everyone. It's the.
[11:22] We're all ticked off.
[11:23] OK, I'll stop there.
[11:24] The second thing is we've got to get this parking right we've.
[11:27] Gotta get our city back. We've got to make this place livable.
[11:30] So, and there's going to be a process and again this.
[11:33] This didn't happen overnight.
[11:35] And I.
[11:36] Ask for your patience and work with us and.
[11:39] As we go through this process.
[11:41] Is working good faith.
[11:42] So I have the sheriff's here. We got two of them.
[11:45] Hold on. Thank you for coming back from Saint George last night to be here.
[11:49] Holden is awesome.
[11:51] Love them, they're awesome, they take great care of us.
[11:53] I've seen you guys around a lot today. You've been dealing with a lot of stuff.
[11:57] OK, it's been.
[11:59] It's springtime.
[12:01] Oh, there we go.
[12:02] OK, there we go. So.
[12:06] All right with that.
[12:08] As we as we go with Council, a couple things I ask. Let's stick on the topic.
[12:12] Let's keep our comments brief and to the point.
[12:15] And it is 8:30. I'm sure a lot of us have babysitters and we got.
[12:20] Work to get to in the morning.
[12:21] So, uh.
[12:23] But this is important to have this discussion, so I'm going to start with Councilman, Councilman Mccumber.
[12:28] To my left.
[12:29] Parker is going to chat about.
[12:32] Some things that.
[12:35] We need, we need to get going right away. So go ahead, Parker.
[12:40] First and foremost, I'm.
[12:42] I would like to express my gratitude that so many of you have shown up tonight.
[12:46] One of the things that.
[12:47] He told me I need to be louder.
[12:50] I'm pretty loud, David.
[12:52] OK.
[12:54] One of the things that I've.
[12:56] Habitually commented on.
[12:57] Was that we need as much public participation as possible.
[13:01] So that we can make the most informed decisions and capture the most perspectives that's necessary for informed decision making to
[13:04] happen.
[13:09] I am excited.
[13:12] To let you guys know.
[13:15] Well over the last 48 hours or so since our Tuesday evening meeting.
[13:21] I want you guys to know.
[13:22] I haven't slept. We have worked literally around the clock to build consensus as a council.
[13:28] I want to give a special thank you to Ezra Nair for working with me over the course of the last couple days.
[13:34] To get.
[13:35] Immediate solution in place to help you right off the bat and I want to present that to you real quick.
[13:42] We have.
[13:45] A resolution that we.
[13:46] I'm just going to let you guys know what it is now in the work session that can be discussed briefly.
[13:51] But it will.
[13:52] Pass on Tuesday.
[13:54] And in short, the resolution is the Council directing the immediate towing.
[13:59] Of vehicles that are parked illegally.
[14:02] So if you're parked within 30 feet of a stop sign, if you're parked on a red curb or you're parked in front of a.
[14:07] Fire hydrant.
[14:08] You will get an immediate tow order.
[14:11] The intent behind that is to create an immediate solution that bolsters the safety in your neighborhoods.
[14:19] I hear your.
[14:20] Concerns and complaints loud and clear when you come and you tell us about the low visibility and I drive those streets and I see
[14:23] what you guys are experiencing and I'm.
[14:27] I want that to be fixed because I want our kids to be safe.
[14:32] So on Tuesday.
[14:33] I expect that that will.
[14:35] Passed as a consent item with flying colors and that will immediately go into effect and I think that that will solve.
[14:41] A lot of the low hanging fruit when it comes to safety.
[14:45] I know that this is really a root cause.
[14:48] Stemming from.
[14:51] Over occupancy.
[14:53] We are still planning to move forward with Operation Neighborhood Shield and developing the city's code enforcement protocol to
[14:57] actually help get that in check.
[15:02] Long term, but this is something we can do immediately.
[15:04] To make the streets safer.
[15:07] I did also want to comment.
[15:09] On some of the emotion in the conversations that I've observed and participated in in the last.
[15:14] 48 hours.
[15:16] And I want to make sure that.
[15:18] You guys understand?
[15:20] That we're trying to.
[15:22] Not make decisions in a vacuum.
[15:24] And that no one on this Council.
[15:28] Is here to be your enemy or prevent.
[15:31] Representing you.
[15:33] I recognize that there are some heated opinions when it comes to.
[15:38] Those perceptions.
[15:40] And there's a large group of people that support.
[15:43] Increased parking.
[15:46] I don't know what the.
[15:47] Parking policy.
[15:48] And those parking passes?
[15:50] That actively campaigned against many of us up here now.
[15:54] And are frustrated at our involvement and so I want to comment on this that I.
[15:59] 100% recognized.
[16:01] You guys have been.
[16:02] Working with Ezra not just over the last two months when it came to.
[16:07] Parking policy.
[16:09] But many of you were.
[16:11] With him during the campaign.
[16:13] And you support him, and you trust him, and you know him.
[16:16] And I want you to know that this was not.
[16:17] There was number intentional slight to him or to you.
[16:21] When we appointed Jacob Wood to be over this.
[16:25] The reason that we appointed that and I hope that you guys can.
[16:28] Maybe look at this understand.
[16:30] Was that Jacob was already very involved.
[16:32] With trying to figure out parking and towing situations when it came to the lakefront neighborhood and those HOA's.
[16:39] He was already very well versed with the contracts that were in place.
[16:42] And so it seems.
[16:44] To us as a natural extension.
[16:46] To put him in charge of that process.
[16:49] And at the time we were not aware, at least I wasn't, I don't think consciously aware that you guys had.
[16:55] Your group that was already meeting with Ezra and that had a consensus there.
[16:59] That wasn't information that I was.
[17:01] Privy to I don't believe.
[17:02] So.
[17:04] I want to get to know we are not trying to work against you.
[17:07] We genuinely want to make the streets safer. We want to help you out with this.
[17:12] Some concerns that I want to bring up that I hope as you guys.
[17:17] Share in your public comments and that as you break off into your.
[17:21] Neighborhood sessions in a few minutes.
[17:25] I would like you to consider these things.
[17:29] I ran on.
[17:32] Also tackling the taxes and balancing the city budget, making sure that we were operating from a fiscally responsible.
[17:38] Position.
[17:41] One of my concerns that we're really working through right now and.
[17:45] I apologize, Evans, not here.
[17:46] Maybe comments on this with me?
[17:49] Is that over the course of the next three years we have an 8 figure deficit when it comes to our transportation budget?
[17:55] To be very blunt, the city does not have a lot of excess funds to create programs.
[18:02] I would like you to consider.
[18:04] Your willingness to.
[18:07] Adopt A fee that would support your parking passes if you choose to proceed with that.
[18:14] 2nd.
[18:16] Representation and real consensus and.
[18:19] My concern here.
[18:20] Is that?
[18:22] We as a Council.
[18:24] While we want to help you and we want to make the streets safer.
[18:27] We have an obligation to protect the rights of.
[18:30] Even minority groups.
[18:32] And people that you may not agree with.
[18:35] That kind of.
[18:36] Builds into my.
[18:38] Next thought if I were to tell you that I think taxation is theft.
[18:42] Most of you would say, but who would pay for the roads?
[18:45] And the conversation that we're having.
[18:48] Just to be very blunt.
[18:49] Is we're talking about limiting access?
[18:52] To something that these people's tax dollars are paying for.
[18:56] And I think that that needs to be very heavily scrutinized.
[19:00] So I would like to share this thought as I.
[19:03] Spoke.
[19:05] For many hours with our city's legal advisor over the course of the last two days.
[19:11] Something that he shared with me is a best practice in all governance. Is that a?
[19:16] Council does not.
[19:17] Act unless it has sufficient reason to do so.
[19:22] So I want to ask you all to please continue to engage your neighbors.
[19:26] And build as much community involvement in consensus in this as you can.
[19:30] Make it undeniable for us to help you.
[19:36] I think it's all my good point about it. That's good.
[19:39] Already we're going to jump now. We're just going to jump to the parking permit overview, if that's all right. Yep.
[19:44] OK, let's jump jump to it and.
[19:48] Yeah, so no.
[19:50] Yeah, go ahead.
[19:52] We need to go and educate you guys on what you're going to be experiencing tonight.
[19:56] And understand the code that is currently written in our city code.
[20:00] Currently when this was put in place.
[20:04] 2-3 years ago.
[20:05] There was only one.
[20:07] Way of telling.
[20:09] The entities that put that in are the neighborhoods that put that in.
[20:13] Went down that road.
[20:14] And repealed it and didn't want it.
[20:17] And so when that and you'll hear from them tonight about that and there are many different options.
[20:24] In towing and you're going to be learning about those about and and all of your neighborhoods are very different.
[20:31] But as as the code currently states, it states that there is.
[20:36] By required by city code.
[20:38] There needs to be a vote of the citizens of the neighborhood and it currently says it's 75% that a survey would go out.
[20:46] So it's because that code is a little bit different and outdated.
[20:50] We need to talk to the council as to what's going to happen so tonight.
[20:54] After we're done educating you on.
[20:56] A lot of various options. You guys are going to be broken up into four groups.
[21:00] The code also states that a group of citizens.
[21:03] Could put together that plan. Well, there isn't a plan yet in the four of your neighborhoods, so you guys need to put together a
[21:06] plan.
[21:10] In order to do that.
[21:12] We need to have a leader of that.
[21:13] Plan right And so.
[21:16] So tonight you guys are going to be selecting a leader.
[21:19] But also going through and we want you to know the different options so when you talk to that leader.
[21:23] You're going through and saying.
[21:25] Well, what, what options are you planning on if you're going to be my leader?
[21:29] Even at the end of today, that leader isn't going to just be saying, hey, I'm the leader and we're doing this and we leave today
[21:32] on the planet.
[21:36] Because it has to come back to.
[21:38] The code.
[21:39] Between here.
[21:41] And next Tuesday, because we have to follow sunshine laws and transparency laws.
[21:46] We will be working with David Kyle.
[21:48] And our legal counsel to make sure that we have a fair and equitable due process of how to vote.
[21:55] Should we see?
[21:56] Stay at the survey like we're handing out a QR code.
[21:59] It says the residents.
[22:01] What does that mean? Is that one per household?
[22:04] Does that mean we're giving out QR codes? Does that mean they can come to the office and vote?
[22:08] It's not a great code that's written through that.
[22:11] So because this is spraying on us and we were challenged on a Tuesday to meet on a Thursday.
[22:16] We will be going through and working through that vote and that.
[22:19] Process. Umm.
[22:21] So when you guys come back to that?
[22:23] Now, having said that tonight.
[22:25] Your leaders after learning everything.
[22:29] Might need more than two or three days to put together your plan.
[22:33] In fact, we stress that because there are so many moving parts, right? So that does not mean you have to. Now there are some
[22:36] people in this group.
[22:41] That might say, look, we're ready to go.
[22:42] Where, you know, one neighborhood in particular says, hey.
[22:45] We know what we want, we know all of the options, and we're ready to go.
[22:48] But make sure you know as a group.
[22:51] Does that mean that as you go and grow that consensus that you would be able to go and get that?
[22:56] That percentage to vote to do.
[22:59] To actually implement your plan. Does that make sense?
[23:02] OK. And I also and so tonight, so that's the process a Tuesday we would vote on how we would collect that neighborhood vote.
[23:09] So tonight.
[23:10] Moving towards the agenda Jacob would is going to spend the time going through.
[23:15] All the different things.
[23:16] And auctions in towing.
[23:18] Thank you.
[23:18] All right, Jacob one.
[23:20] Go through this. Yeah. Was everybody able to get a packet? There should be packets in the packet. We run out of packets.
[23:26] One second, we have some more. OK.
[23:28] So on the package, there's three options for the type of.
[23:31] Parking permits you want you want digital?
[23:33] Et cetera. So I'll go through that.
[23:37] So first of all, this is not going to be a decision made by counsel.
[23:42] This needs to be decided by you and your neighbors. This needs to get buy in from your neighbors as well.
[23:47] Because this is going to be a significant change.
[23:50] So I want you to take the time to really think through these.
[23:52] Go through these permit plans in detail.
[23:54] And I'm going to try to be as detailed as I can.
[23:58] So I put all this in a packet.
[24:00] I'll just wait hard, but I can.
[24:02] Get access to a package. Did you get one man?
[24:05] Some of the options.
[24:07] And then you guys can select.
[24:09] Which would be best for your neighborhood that you?
[24:12] Want to go through this so at the end of this.
[24:14] We're going to hear from a few people who have.
[24:16] Have had experience of parking enforcement.
[24:18] Including HOA experience.
[24:19] And residents who currently live in neighborhoods with parking permits as well.
[24:23] Share their experience with it SO.
[24:25] The first slide, can you all hear me?
[24:28] OK. Thank you.
[24:30] So you're gonna have to decide the permit type.
[24:33] So there's two different permit types. You have a digital.
[24:35] Parking permit.
[24:36] Usually that's linked to your license plate.
[24:38] I mean it's managed online or by app.
[24:40] Or you have a physical parking permit.
[24:42] And that's physically displayed on your car.
[24:45] And then usually they have a unique.
[24:47] Barcode attached to that permit.
[24:49] So you need to decide you want a physical parking permit or do you want a digital?
[24:52] Parking permit.
[24:56] When it comes to enforcement options, there's many options. So this company does ticketing.
[25:01] Basically, uh.
[25:03] Instead of towing or booting, just taking your car, you have to pay between 75 to $100.
[25:07] And we have booting.
[25:09] I'm Utah State, Max rebooting is $75.
[25:11] The oranges have towing.
[25:13] And use that ranges between 300 to $400.
[25:16] So you can choose ticketing, you can choose booting, you can choose towing, or you can choose a combination of both.
[25:21] Booting and towing.
[25:22] Or you can choose a progressive style of enforcement.
[25:25] First offensive ticketing, second offense is booting, and the third offensive towing.
[25:29] So there's a company that offers that.
[25:32] Version of enforcement as well.
[25:40] So other things you guys need to decide is the enforcement style.
[25:43] So there's two different types of enforcement. There's on call. Basically a person would call to a.
[25:48] The toe on a car that's violating the parking permit rules.
[25:52] Or there's patrol enforcement. You need a tow truck with patrol.
[25:55] The road. And they would.
[25:56] Total card.
[25:58] On their own.
[26:00] So you need to decide anymore on card you want patrol.
[26:07] So.
[26:08] Let's let's.
[26:10] When we get through this, I was gonna ask the same thing. What's the cost is the cost is the.
[26:14] So that can be decided via contract. I don't have a specific cost, I know that.
[26:19] Couple neighborhoods that have a parking permit.
[26:21] And might cause to speak to this letter.
[26:23] Usually the annual fee for that parking permit is above 60 to $60.00 plus.
[26:28] OK, thanks. Keep on.
[26:31] So when it comes to booting, there's two different types of booting.
[26:34] So you have smarter company offers smart booting basically.
[26:37] It's self release, you pay for it and then you can.
[26:40] Detach it and then you have to go and drop it off.
[26:43] Yourself.
[26:44] And then you have standard building basically towing company would come.
[26:47] The Buddha, and then you have to call them to come.
[26:50] Take it off if that makes sense.
[26:53] And then you have visitor parking as well.
[26:55] Would you want to allow overnight visitor parking passes for a neighborhood?
[26:58] Or not.
[27:01] And then household permits so.
[27:04] Would you guys want?
[27:06] How many permits do you want per?
[27:08] House you want one on street parking spot 2? Or do you want it to be tied to the number of drivers in that house?
[27:14] What are the costs, Jacob, for the permits? Are they?
[27:18] $20 a permit or what do they cost? That's the thing. So the president vary based off of what what you get so.
[27:25] Depending on some of the options and.
[27:28] We would strongly recommend that the neighborhood captains.
[27:31] Do their research of which style.
[27:34] And then research the price.
[27:36] And as a council, this is one thing that we said was.
[27:39] Should we demand that they know the price during the vote?
[27:43] Or like on Tuesday when they put forth the plan that they.
[27:48] That it sets the citizens know the price in the vote or is that these are the options we're doing?
[27:53] And then after they vote, they find out what the permit fee is.
[27:56] And I felt that as a transparency policy that.
[28:00] Whatever option they choose.
[28:02] And the leaders go through, they investigate that between here and Tuesday.
[28:06] And we can help them do the best research they can so citizens know when they're voting.
[28:11] The annual cost is $75 annually or.
[28:14] We can you guys can talk about.
[28:16] Something.
[28:19] Phone calls.
[28:21] Hold on one second. Let's let's umm.
[28:23] Yeah, let's not do pressure.
[28:24] Yeah, we're gonna.
[28:26] Oh, yeah, please. What was the price? You made some phone calls on it. Yeah, so I made some phone calls. Just real quick. You can
[28:29] talk to theirs.
[28:32] But it's very similar. It's about $10.
[28:34] But then they make their money up by telling and.
[28:37] Thank you. As far as Lone Star goes.
[28:41] They are also.
[28:42] $10 or they are no price at all. They make up their fee by telling and ticketing.
[28:47] And then with easy part it is $5.
[28:50] Permit per month.
[28:51] But can be negotiated into the contract if you find other ways that they can.
[28:56] David, when you, David, when you said $10, are you saying monthly or annually?
[29:01] It's $10 a ticket for annual.
[29:04] That's what that's with UPA.
[29:06] So he can talk.
[29:07] If if they want to, they can talk further on that question.
[29:09] Thank you.
[29:12] Yeah. So yeah, like **** **** said, when you guys select.
[29:15] What options do you want? You have to.
[29:17] Find a vendor, calculate the price, and I'll tell you the price.
[29:20] You guys have to.
[29:22] There's also two distinctions in towing that is very important to understand.
[29:27] There are, there is.
[29:29] HOA we're giving sovereignty over to the towing company to patrol.
[29:35] Where they're going to be the judge, jury and executioner of like that decision?
[29:40] And then there's like.
[29:41] On call that we would run through the city.
[29:44] Where it would be reported.
[29:46] And it would go to a.
[29:48] Code Enforcement officer.
[29:50] Meaning somebody from the city.
[29:52] And they would look at it and say does this.
[29:55] Reach the level of.
[29:58] Of code.
[29:59] And at which when that decision is made.
[30:02] Then it would dispatch a.
[30:04] A tow truck company. So it's really important you understand that because if your neighborhood chooses and this happened in two
[30:08] instances.
[30:12] Where they chose the just drive by.
[30:15] And we are going to be removing the city on when they do the patrolling.
[30:19] They remove us from.
[30:21] The process, the code enforcement. Now there is an appeal thing.
[30:25] After the fact.
[30:26] But we are not the first adjudicating person that goes through that process. And so it's really important that you understand that
[30:32] because people will call in and they're like, I don't, I didn't agree with the toe. I was only a couple feet off.
[30:38] And we are giving that.
[30:39] Sovereignty to that private company to do that in those two separate scenarios, OK, basically if you choose that, people need to
[30:43] understand that option.
[30:48] OK. The next one is duration. How long do you want this parking from in your neighborhood? Do you want it to be?
[30:53] A temporary six months.
[30:55] One year or do you want it to be until?
[30:57] Basically.
[30:58] We've got it.
[31:01] OK, awesome. Then I have one last slide. So I invited a couple members of the community here.
[31:07] On a couple enjoy representatives and.
[31:09] An individual who lives in a area of parking permit.
[31:12] To better explain.
[31:13] What it's like doing parking enforcement.
[31:15] What worked? What didn't work?
[31:17] If I can invite them to the MM Hox and then.
[31:20] Mike, you want to come up first?
[31:26] OK, awesome.
[31:28] So I'm Julie Cox.
[31:29] We moved to Vineyard in June of 2019, so we've been here almost seven years.
[31:34] We the majority of the time we've been here, we've had a multi generational household. My mom had lived with us.
[31:41] For nine years before she passed away.
[31:44] My son, daughter-in-law and their.
[31:46] Almost 2 year old child lives with us as well we have.
[31:49] Five vehicles.
[31:50] Because we've had five drivers.
[31:53] When Providence, I live in the Providence neighborhood.
[31:57] When Providence instituted parking permits.
[32:00] We were not given these choices.
[32:02] So this is amazing and.
[32:04] You should be grateful they're asking for your.
[32:07] Opinion.
[32:10] We were given one choice and that was to have one parking permit for the street.
[32:15] Per households.
[32:17] At a fee. I think at the time it was $30.
[32:20] A year.
[32:21] And it was a physical permit.
[32:25] And like I say, we had five cars.
[32:27] And five drivers.
[32:29] And so that was not a good solution for us at all.
[32:34] I felt like we were disproportionately impacted by the parking issues. The parking issues in my neighborhood are caused by a lack
[32:38] of parking in the locks.
[32:43] Probably due to over occupancy.
[32:48] So when we were given these choices, I felt like we were disproportionately impacted due to the location of our home, because we
[32:52] are.
[32:56] Right inside our neighborhood, directly across the street from the locks.
[33:00] However, because we are only given one choice.
[33:04] And I felt like it was not the right choice.
[33:06] I did not vote for it. I refused to vote.
[33:10] To take away the right to park in front of my own home.
[33:15] Directly in front of my own home.
[33:17] And because of that.
[33:19] I have been towed once.
[33:20] And booted twice.
[33:22] I've paid $450.
[33:25] In extra fees.
[33:27] To park in front of my own home.
[33:31] So like I say, I.
[33:33] I hope that.
[33:35] You know you guys find the right solution for your neighborhood. What I can tell you is.
[33:40] I feel like this is still not the right solution for my neighborhood even though.
[33:45] It has loosened a little bit and now we have.
[33:47] 3 parking permits available to each home, so I do want to give credit where credit is due. They've solved.
[33:54] My problem.
[33:55] Because now I can park.
[33:56] Two cars in my garage or driveway and three on the street.
[34:00] So my issue has been solved.
[34:03] But I still get booted.
[34:04] If I don't have the right car.
[34:06] Permit in the window or digital permit?
[34:10] All right. Thanks.
[34:15] So I'm Mike Cox.
[34:17] And I just want to say a couple things that haven't mentioned yet.
[34:20] On if there's someone in your.
[34:22] In your household that has a handicap permit.
[34:25] That is gold.
[34:28] That is the as good as any parking permit because no towing company can touch you.
[34:33] OK, you park on the street.
[34:35] Anytime you want.
[34:36] They have to leave you alone by law.
[34:38] It was our saving grace when we had five cars because my mother had grandma, so that was that.
[34:46] That's a good thing.
[34:48] And then I just really feel strongly that.
[34:51] The problems that we have in Vineyard.
[34:55] Are because of.
[34:56] High density.
[34:58] Developments.
[35:00] Where the developers went into the city.
[35:03] And begged them to lower the parking requirements. And the city did.
[35:08] So the problems.
[35:11] Were caused by the city.
[35:13] So.
[35:14] We are the city.
[35:17] And now we're trying to fix the problems.
[35:19] I have a really hard time.
[35:22] When the city.
[35:24] They started out being $30 in our.
[35:26] In our neighborhood and their next year they went to 60.
[35:29] So I don't think the city of Vineyard should be in.
[35:33] The parking business, I don't think it is a neat idea.
[35:37] To sell.
[35:39] Parking passes.
[35:40] The city gets enough money.
[35:43] Yeah, yeah, the city doesn't need to be looking for more ways.
[35:46] To get more money.
[35:48] OK, so.
[35:50] Thank you SO.
[35:53] You need to. You need to make it to. The passes are free.
[35:56] That's that's that would be the.
[35:58] Best solution?
[35:59] Thank you. Who else we got here if you have Chris Fox. So Chris, come on up, Chris.
[36:03] Is in Edgewater.
[36:05] I wanted to basically explain what's like.
[36:08] Parking enforcement if you guys have any questions for him.
[36:12] Yeah, great. I've got.
[36:13] Cash modesty with me as well. He's on our Edgeway board as well. Umm.
[36:16] So I've been on the board in Edgewater Townhomes.
[36:20] About four years now.
[36:22] And when I moved in, we were using EPA. We had a separate kind of system for getting visitor passes overnight.
[36:29] And eventually we kind of switched to UPA.
[36:32] For those visitor passes as well.
[36:36] The the towing.
[36:38] The communication wasn't very well. It didn't go very well with UPA, so a lot of things we didn't want them to do or did want them
[36:41] to do.
[36:44] They just weren't, we weren't on the same page and so we decided to switch two different company, but.
[36:50] What has helped us is switching to Lone Star.
[36:54] They've been very communicative with us.
[36:57] We have some very specific situations where we're like, hey, please don't tell me these situations.
[37:02] With UPA we had.
[37:04] Probably.
[37:04] Two or three times a month.
[37:06] Where someone was complaining to us they got towed when they left their car somewhere for like 1 minute.
[37:11] Right, they were just constantly patrolling.
[37:14] It's yeah, it's been like 8 months now and we've we've had one complaint. So it's been a significant difference.
[37:22] The other thing with EPA was that, you know, we would ask them not to do something and then.
[37:27] It was like 2 weeks later.
[37:28] That after we had sent the e-mail.
[37:30] I see a guy like patrolling, we'd ask them specifically not to patrol during that time, so.
[37:34] I think that there's definitely some difference in.
[37:37] Communication ability and quality control of that and.
[37:41] And and.
[37:43] The other thing is Edgewater's.
[37:44] I think we also deal a lot with this over occupancy problem.
[37:48] And and I hope that the solution that people are thinking of isn't.
[37:52] Oh, if we like start towing all these people with these extra cars.
[37:56] That will fix the overpopulation right? Or the over occupancy?
[38:00] That's not a good way to do it. Most of these people getting towed are college students, right? Like they don't have.
[38:05] So we just barely saw a receipt, $438.
[38:09] To get there for a 20 minute, that right, it went to the tow yard, it was in there for 20 minutes and then they took it out.
[38:15] $438.
[38:16] That's that's pretty crazy for a college student, so.
[38:20] I hope that that's.
[38:21] You know not.
[38:22] The strategy.
[38:24] For some of these places, but.
[38:26] Yeah, for us, towing has been really, really good with Lone Star, but I'm sure there's other options.
[38:31] Awesome, yeah.
[38:33] Can you talk more about the physical? Explain to the audience the physical parking pass how that would work?
[38:40] You some have an app, some are web-based.
[38:42] If they were to select a digital parking pass for the neighborhood, can you explain?
[38:46] What that would probably look like.
[38:49] So at Edgewater, the way we've done it is we have.
[38:52] These I guess.
[38:54] Signs around the community where it's a visitor spot or maybe event parking.
[38:58] And there's a barcode on there and you can just scan the barcode allows you.
[39:01] To go to a portal and then there you can actually get a.
[39:04] Digital parking pass where you can put the make and model of your car. How long you need to pass for.
[39:08] And then lastly the actual.
[39:10] License plate.
[39:11] And we've seen that it's.
[39:13] That with UPA is pretty difficult.
[39:15] With loan, so it's been pretty easy to set up and do it.
[39:18] The one thing we've seen on the Lone Star side though is it can get abused and so they do have parameters in place to where you
[39:21] can.
[39:25] Lock it up so it can be a certain amount.
[39:27] But it from what we've seen, our experience with Lone Star has been.
[39:31] A lot more like.
[39:31] Chris has said communicative, for instance. I mean, I'm here to state facts, not feelings or anything like that, so.
[39:37] Initially when I.
[39:38] Became a part of the board.
[39:40] My first thought was how do we help the members of the community?
[39:44] Understand where to go, where to park without having to spend 3, four, $500.
[39:49] We brought this up with UPA.
[39:52] And what they said to what we asked, hey, do you guys boot? And they said no, they clearly said no.
[39:57] And so we look for different solutions. We found a company that was willing to boot while UPA towed. And then they said, oh,
[40:00] actually we do boot.
[40:04] And then from there.
[40:05] They tried to. We asked them for some kind of a deal for our community.
[40:09] And they said, OK, well.
[40:10] Pitch something out. They told us the original pricing was. They came back and still gave us the original pricing.
[40:15] And so after a few things that just.
[40:18] Seen inherently dishonest, we decided to move to a different.
[40:21] Partner and Lone Star has been phenomenal. They do exactly what we need. They partner with us.
[40:25] And for them, it's more about the relationship than it is about.
[40:30] Earning a buck.
[40:30] I mean, obviously revenue matters.
[40:32] But they care about the relationship with our community.
[40:35] And it's made it so that.
[40:36] I mean I.
[40:37] There are people that complain about parking enforcement. That's always going to be the case, but at the end of the day, they care
[40:40] about making sure that we have what we need.
[40:43] Awesome. Thank you.
[40:45] What's real? Quick question, how important is it that everyone understands the differences between app and evaluate the app before
[40:49] making your decisions? Would you?
[40:53] Wish you would have taken more time though.
[40:55] Know the differences and stuff.
[40:57] Yeah. So I from what I remember, I think UPS was like Reliance or something that was built in house is very.
[41:02] Cumbersome and hard to use and so I think it's whatever you guys decide. If you decide to go UPA, that's fine.
[41:07] Make sure you do some kind of pilot.
[41:09] Take your time, understand it, just set up awesome.
[41:13] Yeah.
[41:16] When we switched so when we switched to the app.
[41:19] Constant, like people were enraged signing up for UPA. I don't know why they had such a hard time. We kind of had them walk the
[41:25] board through it and maybe that's why it felt so easy.
[41:30] But.
[41:31] I kid you not.
[41:32] Multiple times a week, my neighbor who's always been very.
[41:35] A very chill guy.
[41:37] Was uh.
[41:37] Just rage texting me when I he's like I've it's taken me two hours and why is this not working?
[41:43] I said, why don't you just call him?
[41:44] Whatever anyone called it seemed to be fine, but when people were trying to do it on their own?
[41:48] They were getting so upset and so.
[41:50] There's obviously some benefits, pros and cons to doing physical versus digital permits.
[41:55] But.
[41:56] You know, the physical ones can be abused. People can start, you know, trying to create copies and whatever, but the digital ones
[42:00] also.
[42:03] It's important to remember every time a towing company is asking you for.
[42:06] Any information beyond your license plate?
[42:08] It's just so that they can have a reason to tell you if you did it wrong.
[42:11] If you type the wrongs, whatever right so.
[42:13] Anyways, yeah, thank you.
[42:15] The one thing that I want to make sure.
[42:17] So if you guys decide to do this and you vote.
[42:19] And it's not a good experience. It's the leader and the group that made the decision.
[42:25] To do that, and that's why I'm speaking this to the leader.
[42:28] Please make sure you educate. You learn the app, you say and you back it. And then when you're all educated.
[42:34] Then deploy right like.
[42:36] Like yeah. So anyway.
[42:38] We got Fred. Fred here, right? Yeah. Come on up.
[42:41] So Fred isn't like front. I wanted to speak more about physical.
[42:44] Parking passes how that works some of the.
[42:46] Cons there as well.
[42:48] With.
[42:51] Hi. Thanks Sir.
[42:52] Appreciate the opportunity to talk.
[42:56] I've been on the board of the lakefront community.
[43:01] Since 2022.
[43:03] And we've been dealing with parking ever since.
[43:07] We implemented a physical parking permit. It's just a.
[43:12] Plastic placard.
[43:14] We provided all of the residents of the lakefront community.
[43:19] With one parking permit per household.
[43:22] And the ability to buy an additional permit if they needed more than one.
[43:28] The placards are very affordable.
[43:32] And so, speaking for my HOA, we were able to absorb the cost.
[43:36] Of producing the placard and distributing them to the.
[43:39] To the community without any additional cost to them.
[43:43] The downside that we have come to realize?
[43:47] Over the last.
[43:49] Over the course of the last four years.
[43:51] Is the reality of.
[43:53] Forged permits.
[43:56] You can go on any website and order.
[44:00] A dozen or more.
[44:01] Of these placards for about $1.50 per.
[44:06] Per cart in in essence.
[44:08] And so.
[44:09] We know for a fact not only that they're easy to reproduce and duplicate.
[44:14] But we have had landlords.
[44:17] In our community who have contacted.
[44:20] Our management company and turned in.
[44:23] Dozens.
[44:24] Of duplicated permits.
[44:26] From.
[44:28] That were given to them by by previous renters, so the duplication is a concern.
[44:35] And and it has created some headaches in our community.
[44:38] We.
[44:39] At the beginning of the year, just.
[44:40] One final note.
[44:42] We decided to move to a digital permit.
[44:45] It was administered by UPA.
[44:48] That permit was.
[44:51] Very different from our from our.
[44:53] Our physical parking permit where we.
[44:56] We mandated a boot.
[44:59] A warning? A boot.
[45:01] And then a toe. So it was a progressive.
[45:04] Sister Michael Jacob was talking about earlier.
[45:09] The digital permit is a straight.
[45:13] When we asked.
[45:16] And I think that the members of the of the other communities here.
[45:19] Keep this in mind if you if you talk to UPA about this, you will.
[45:23] Likely find the same thing that we did.
[45:27] They did not charge us.
[45:29] For the digital permit.
[45:31] But when we asked for more flexibility, a.
[45:34] A progressive system.
[45:36] They wanted to charge the HOA.
[45:39] A prohibitive fee.
[45:41] In order to enable.
[45:43] Other options?
[45:46] We've turned that down flat. We're considering other.
[45:49] Other companies like Easy Park and.
[45:52] Lone Star because I refuse to.
[45:54] Tax the members of our community for the privilege.
[45:58] Of.
[45:59] OK. Thank you, Fred. Appreciate that.
[46:02] Jacob, anything else you want to go over this presentation, jump into the basically what threats in terms of physical parking
[46:05] passes you may run into a?
[46:09] People forging those passes and.
[46:12] Stuff like that. So just nothing to keep in mind if you choose.
[46:15] Difference between physical and digital? There might be downsides to both. So it's just a.
[46:19] Keep in mind, but.
[46:20] That is all I have. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you so much.
[46:23] OK, we're going to jump now to we're going to do.
[46:26] A quick so so this was this was a conversation about the the pros and cons and.
[46:32] There's the different types of passes and so forth, so.
[46:37] I'm going to jump now to David Kyle. Ask him to do a quick overview of.
[46:41] This operation Neighborhood Shield.
[46:43] As spoken before.
[46:46] We feel that.
[46:48] The root cause of this is.
[46:51] Is over occupancy.
[46:53] So this is.
[46:54] We're looking to launch this to address that, so DK if you could.
[46:59] Just kind of go over this real quick.
[47:02] Tony.
[47:06] No. Can you put it on?
[47:11] I can work on it, sure.
[47:12] OK, while he works on it.
[47:16] While he's doing that, we can break up, we can kind of start to plan.
[47:19] After he well.
[47:21] Let's just have him go and then we'll.
[47:23] You know, go ahead, David.
[47:25] OK, so the.
[47:27] With the reverse.
[47:29] Over the last.
[47:31] Three months since the mayor and and council members have taken office.
[47:35] We've had a number of complaints regarding overall occupied rental homes, particularly in.
[47:41] The neighborhood's mostly.
[47:43] Your neighborhoods, those that you've shown up.
[47:45] Lemon, Bridgeport. The Garden of Maples.
[47:48] And just excessive reports of vehicles, illegal street parking.
[47:55] Of course, blocked emergency vehicles strain on neighborhood structure and.
[47:59] Reduced quality of life.
[48:00] Especially safety for kids.
[48:03] And so the mayor and staff have been working on a.
[48:07] Program called Operation Neighborhood Shield.
[48:11] What it starts?
[48:13] What what we're doing is we're reviewing.
[48:15] All of.
[48:16] Vineyard City Code with our city Attorney and with Deputy Holden.
[48:21] To determine updates and clarifications.
[48:24] Regarding maximum residential occupancy limits.
[48:28] Illegal rental.
[48:29] Definitions. Uh.
[48:31] Parking enforcement authority and evidence.
[48:34] Requirements for code enforcement One of the.
[48:38] Issues that we have with enforcement is we don't have evidence we need to have.
[48:42] 2 forms of evidence to do any kind of action in regards to over occupancy.
[48:50] OK, we're almost there.
[48:52] OK.
[48:56] We have it on half the screens.
[48:58] Just not on the main screen. So I think we're good to move forward.
[49:01] OK, so.
[49:04] We are currently in the process of making recommendations to city code.
[49:11] That is we actually that's what phase one is our ordinance review which started March 16th and we'll end it.
[49:18] On March 31st we're.
[49:21] Trying to fast track this program.
[49:23] Because of the.
[49:25] Seriousness of the safety issues and neighborhoods, I'm just looking to jump to those.
[49:30] Yeah, go ahead.
[49:34] OK. All right.
[49:35] OK, so we are.
[49:38] We're looking at an awareness campaign with Phase 2.
[49:44] Starting in late March, so.
[49:46] Pretty much next week going into April.
[49:49] We are going to be distributing door hangers and information Flyers.
[49:53] We're going to be increasing patrols.
[49:58] An increasing visibility and citations for illegal parking.
[50:02] Public messaging will.
[50:05] Be placed on all the door hangers and the informational Flyers and on Facebook and through e-mail informing residents that
[50:09] enforcement will.
[50:14] Will escalate beginning on May 1st.
[50:19] Residents will also be encouraged to to report concerns through the city's See Something, Say Something reporting initiative that
[50:23] will be part of that.
[50:29] In the past, we have not been. The city has not been very direct. We are.
[50:33] Going to be encouraging residents to be very direct.
[50:37] If we're going to be asking, being very direct in our ask, you see something, you see over occupancy, you see illegal parking,
[50:42] take a picture, report it to staff and we are going to be following up.
[50:48] And we're actually.
[50:49] Employing new.
[50:51] Employees to make this happen.
[50:54] So, and that's where.
[50:57] Phase 3 is investigation and evidence collection will happen all throughout the month of April.
[51:03] That's during the notice period.
[51:05] The city will aggressively pursue documenting potential violations and will continue to.
[51:11] Pursue enforcement action.
[51:13] And staff.
[51:15] Will be gathering evidence such as public rental listings, online rental advertisements, listing.
[51:22] Offering rooms for rent. Neighbor complaints. Verified complaints submits to the city.
[51:27] Property visits by officers and recorded statements.
[51:32] Additional supporting evidence may include parking violations, code enforcement observations.
[51:38] This phase will allow property owners an opportunity to help, correct.
[51:42] Violations voluntarily and for students to find other housing options prior to enforcement. One of the reasons why we're moving so
[51:48] quickly is because we know that graduation is going to be occurring.
[51:55] At the end of this month.
[51:57] We want to make sure that.
[51:58] Students don't sign their contracts for the summer or for another year.
[52:03] So we're giving kind of a heads up. We're going to be enforcing parking.
[52:07] We're going to be enforcing over occupancy.
[52:11] You know, and we're also working with Utah City.
[52:15] To find them other places within Vineyard to live.
[52:18] So thank you. With that, we've got phase four and that's when enforcement will begin on May 1st.
[52:25] And of course, enforcement, administrative citations, parking citations, code enforcement actions.
[52:31] And as mentioned before.
[52:33] We are going to be increasing our enforcement staffing here at the city. If you go to the cities website, you'll see that we have
[52:38] listings for a full time and two-part time.
[52:44] Enforcement officers, if you know anybody that would like to submit their resume, we would be happy to consider them for
[52:48] employment.
[52:52] And the mayor's looking for Dog the Bounty Hunter to come and help.
[52:55] Yeah, that's what we're looking for.
[52:58] OK. Thank you, David, Kyle, I.
[52:59] I want to talk to the.
[53:01] This community is a group because I have.
[53:08] How should I say this?
[53:11] I know there's fatigue.
[53:13] And reporting over occupancy. I live next door to a situation.
[53:18] Similar and I personally have reported to the city for years on it.
[53:24] If you haven't.
[53:25] Heard the last 90 days we've had a lot of tone over and staff.
[53:30] And a lot of it.
[53:32] What I have discovered is that.
[53:37] How can I say this?
[53:39] It has been really we have some amazing people that work here.
[53:43] But there there was a need.
[53:45] For course correction.
[53:47] And the staff that we have now and coming into the city.
[53:51] Are amazing people.
[53:53] That want to serve.
[53:55] The taxpayer.
[53:56] And.
[53:57] Want to do good?
[53:59] We have.
[54:00] We got.
[54:01] We have 10 new spots open. We're looking for 10 new code enforcers.
[54:04] 3.
[54:08] This is this is we. We're really getting.
[54:12] I keep asking myself.
[54:14] If we don't.
[54:15] If we have laws and codes and don't enforce and, why didn't have them?
[54:19] But the key in order to do that is having a.
[54:22] Team of staff members that are willing to do the hard thing.
[54:26] And and get after it.
[54:28] And I really feel.
[54:30] I again, I understand there's fatigue. I've talked to so many of you that you.
[54:35] I we finally found the report like.
[54:39] 10 days ago of.
[54:41] All the complaints.
[54:42] Over occupancy for the last three years and I was blown away.
[54:46] I saw my name on there.
[54:48] But we're.
[54:49] I was like, geez.
[54:50] I'm right there, right?
[54:52] And So what I'm saying is there is a.
[54:55] Complete culture shift that's happening with our staff.
[54:59] And our desire.
[55:01] Is the the mayor and the administrative officers of the city is to serve?
[55:06] The residents, the people that pay.
[55:09] Our salaries there, so I should say ours.
[55:11] Their salaries, so that is.
[55:13] It's really super positive so.
[55:15] Again.
[55:16] There's been some mishaps in the past.
[55:19] Will have mishaps in the future but but.
[55:21] Arc, my commitment is to just run a much.
[55:24] Cleaner, tighter ship.
[55:27] That listens and.
[55:29] And it's nimble and can activities.
[55:31] So we're going to get ready to to do the breakout.
[55:34] So let me just let me just go through a couple of things so.
[55:38] Park Mcbert.
[55:39] Talked about in the very first thing.
[55:41] We are there is going to.
[55:43] We're going to pass the resolution I'm going to on the on the agenda is going to be a resolution.
[55:49] The state of Utah has laws.
[55:51] Right now.
[55:51] That you can't park in front of a.
[55:53] Fire hydrant against law.
[55:55] There's laws right now.
[55:56] You can't park in front of a stop sign.
[55:58] Right now, so we don't need to do that.
[56:00] But the resolution is going to be to act to to instruct.
[56:04] The sheriff's to start towing.
[56:07] And to me.
[56:08] Where I sit.
[56:09] That is a direct safety issue.
[56:11] We've got to be able to get.
[56:14] Ambulances.
[56:15] Fire trucks. Indoor neighborhoods.
[56:18] Get that taken care of so.
[56:19] That is going to be happening on Tuesday. The reason why you can't vote on it tonight again is because of the sunshine.
[56:24] We have to notice it with our attorney.
[56:26] That's that's we're gonna do.
[56:28] The next thing is we're going to start this Operation Shield.
[56:31] OK, this neighborhood shield.
[56:33] Because again, I truly feel the root cause of this.
[56:37] Has something to do with over occupancy, so we're going to be working on that.
[56:41] And in these breakout sessions.
[56:42] As you discuss as a neighborhood.
[56:46] Take it with that.
[56:48] Understanding, and that's the commitment.
[56:50] Are we going to be perfect? Are the staff be heard?
[56:53] But we are working.
[56:55] To say that we're doing nothing, that's just this is like.
[56:58] We are moving.
[56:59] Fast as I legally can.
[57:02] To enforce.
[57:04] And hold the codes that already exist.
[57:07] And uphold it so.
[57:08] All right, so with that.
[57:10] We are going to do breakouts. So you want my Thunderman?
[57:13] You want? Let's do this. Can I write?
[57:16] I we have a lot more people here.
[57:19] Then then we then I thought, can I get a raise Van who here is from?
[57:24] Bridgeport, can you raise your hand?
[57:26] OK, so let me do this.
[57:27] Can I get a hand raising hands here? Who's here from the gardens?
[57:31] OK, so there's a bunch of gardens. Bridgeport, the gardens, who's here from the Maples?
[57:36] Maples is kind of small.
[57:38] OK.
[57:39] Come to the hall and then we'll.
[57:43] Is a small group. OK, let's do this.
[57:46] OK, alright.
[57:48] So this is what we're going to do.
[57:51] OK, please be quiet. Listen up.
[57:54] Jake, walk us through what these breakout sessions are going to be doing.
[57:57] OK, let's make sure you get and we gotta have a time limit because again, it's 9:30.
[58:01] So each a council member will follow each group to their location to help guide through the meeting.
[58:07] And help go through the decision and hold the conversation.
[58:10] We recommend that you kind of discuss the various options before.
[58:14] And then come to a level. Now there's nothing in code about how many leaders.
[58:18] Being one, being 2, being three people selected.
[58:22] Because it's not in code and we're moving quickly.
[58:24] We're going to allow that to be the council member in that meeting kind of help.
[58:27] Understand what is that?
[58:30] Now realizing that you need to put together that plan.
[58:34] You guys all have this. These are the decisions that you guys need to be making.
[58:38] In order to bring this back to the Council.
[58:42] To say we have enough information.
[58:44] That is ready to go that we can put your plan on.
[58:48] That we would vote and authorize a vote and we can do that as soon as next Tuesday.
[58:53] But we have to give 24 hour notice so.
[58:56] Monday at 6:00 we have to have. You have to give it to as well before.
[59:01] But we have to put it into the state statute of.
[59:03] Public notification to get that in and then a vote can happen.
[59:07] We one of the.
[59:09] My tone. Yeah, sorry, I'll pull it closer.
[59:12] Zach, you started to steal my Thunder, but I need to.
[59:15] Get this in.
[59:16] Before you say that.
[59:18] The benefit of having this resolution on Tuesday?
[59:21] Where we are going to immediately start towing.
[59:24] Anything that is a safety hazard that's already in violation of state law.
[59:28] Is that?
[59:29] It is an immediate.
[59:31] Stopgap.
[59:32] To make the roads safer.
[59:35] And it gives you, I think, a little bit more.
[59:37] Breathing room.
[59:38] To make sure that we get this right.
[59:40] Because the decisions that we're making that are going to.
[59:43] You're going to bring back to the Council.
[59:45] That's what we would use to draft a code or resolution or an ordinance that would.
[59:51] Implement this for you.
[59:54] With this.
[59:56] Recognize if you need more time, you can have more time.
[1:00:00] This is going to be largely neighborhood LED because your neighborhood is unique and your solution is going to be different than
[1:00:04] other people. We're not waiting for the neighborhoods to decide.
[1:00:09] To start telling.
[1:00:10] Fire hydrants.
[1:00:12] Stop sign stuff. That's already Utah State law that is happening.
[1:00:17] So what's going to happen? Work with you regardless of whatever you guys come up with?
[1:00:20] I would just want to ask.
[1:00:22] For your patients.
[1:00:23] And your willingness to acknowledge the different perspectives that are going to be in your communities.
[1:00:28] And make sure that.
[1:00:30] You understand?
[1:00:31] While it may be unpopular to say, the Council has an obligation to balance.
[1:00:36] Representing you and also the rights of people that maybe are not comfortable speaking up to. And so we want to find the best way
[1:00:41] to build consensus and community.
[1:00:46] To work through these issues.
[1:00:48] Yeah, and the secret ballot, a lot of people worried about that in e-mail. Like I have to speak up for my system. No one has to
[1:00:52] disclose how you vote.
[1:00:56] Whatever, uh.
[1:00:57] By law.
[1:00:58] We have a lot of laws that we have to follow right in the voting of that.
[1:01:03] So the attorney and are making sure that we follow through about that so.
[1:01:07] So let's do this.
[1:01:08] So, Ezra.
[1:01:10] Let's do Bridgeport.
[1:01:11] Let's do.
[1:01:13] You want to let the UPA guy share on? Let's do question and answer after.
[1:01:18] What's the question? We have a lot of vendors here.
[1:01:21] And I am able to share some.
[1:01:24] Well, what's what the vendors doing the.
[1:01:26] Question and answer period.
[1:01:28] Speak to the chair. Please speak to the chair. Thank you.
[1:01:31] We're going to do question and answer. We do that after.
[1:01:33] Right now we're going to have, we're going to do the breakout session, Ezra.
[1:01:37] Bridgeport.
[1:01:38] You guys want to meet? Let's do this one in here.
[1:01:40] OK.
[1:01:43] With Chaminade, With Jacob Wood. Let's go or.
[1:01:46] Let's go up to the library you want upstairs the library.
[1:01:48] OK, Maples, let's have Parker to the Maples.
[1:01:53] Let's have them.
[1:01:54] Yeah, you guys can have the foyer.
[1:01:58] And then Holden, are you cool if we use the sheriff's?
[1:02:01] Room. Is that OK?
[1:02:03] Do we have any stuff?
[1:02:04] Is that can we go in there? Any drugs in there you gotta need?
[1:02:07] Marijuana that you confiscated from.
[1:02:09] Teenagers at the moment it will smell like marijuana, yes.
[1:02:14] OK, so it smells like marijuana, so, but we're going to go into the we're going to go into.
[1:02:19] To the sheriff's room, and that'll be the.
[1:02:21] Gardens so OK.
[1:02:23] Bridgeport here.
[1:02:24] Lechemon there.
[1:02:26] OK, one last thing.
[1:02:27] One last thing.
[1:02:28] Let's let's do it.
[1:02:30] We.
[1:02:32] It's 9:30.
[1:02:34] We can't be here forever. We got jobs and stuff to do in the morning.
[1:02:36] How long you think?
[1:02:37] 1520 minutes.
[1:02:39] Now you'll need more than that.
[1:02:41] 1/2 hour.
[1:02:42] This is hey, what were the leaders, the group leaders from Tuesday? What do they think they need? Hey, group leaders from Tuesday.
[1:02:55] OK, 15th must be 20 minutes. It's late.
[1:02:57] OK again.
[1:03:00] The commitment for me is the mayor.
[1:03:02] I can control the agenda.
[1:03:04] We will keep this on and work until it's.
[1:03:07] Better, even if it takes a minute.
[1:03:09] Thank you. Yeah, 20 minutes. So we'll be back in there at 9:50. We'll do a recess on 950.
[1:03:19] I.
[1:03:28] Garden.
[1:03:29] The mayor is your mayor.
[1:27:03] OK, awesome.
[1:27:08] It's just us.
[1:27:17] For the people in the foyer right now, we're going to.
[1:27:19] Do public comments in a moment. If you guys would like to come in and participate in that, We'll have questions and answers.
[1:27:25] If they're too loud and she beat that gavel, yeah, they'll.
[1:27:45] My council chambers, Yeah, right.
[1:28:00] It is dented, isn't it?
[1:28:02] Do we want to?
[1:28:03] Yeah, that was you.
[1:28:04] You want to call Jacob Wood to see you upstairs.
[1:29:03] Is like the alligator food to be back up and comfortable.
[1:29:19] Alrighty guys, let's go ahead and move into public comment if you want to come in here.
[1:29:23] If not, maybe we just shut the.
[1:29:25] Looks like there's some conversations happening on the floor, which is totally fine.
[1:29:29] Just want to.
[1:29:30] Shut the door.
[1:29:35] OK, awesome.
[1:29:37] All righty, so we're going to jump into public comment We're it's.
[1:29:40] 955 So we're gonna really be we're gonna do one minute.
[1:29:44] OK, one minute.
[1:29:46] Public comment.
[1:29:47] When you come up here, I ask you to address the chair, which is my cell.
[1:29:51] Everyone that talked to me, Council, if you have questions.
[1:29:53] Go through me and then we'll. That way we can have some good or order decorum here.
[1:29:59] But let's uh, uh.
[1:30:00] I have my. Where's that?
[1:30:02] Did we do the sign in list for?
[1:30:04] Let me grab that.
[1:30:19] All righty.
[1:30:21] What?
[1:30:23] And if anyone.
[1:30:24] If I call your name and you don't want to.
[1:30:27] Comment. Just let me know. Totally fine. Again, it's 10:00.
[1:30:31] OK, so Gabriel Judkins from Bridgeport.
[1:30:35] OK, not here. OK.
[1:30:39] Are we cool if I just cross off the list? OK, I'll just go like that.
[1:30:43] Isaac Freckleton.
[1:30:44] From the Maples.
[1:30:46] He left. Awesome.
[1:30:48] Can't.
[1:30:51] Tamien.
[1:30:52] I think it's.
[1:30:54] I'm sorry I went to Orem High, I can't read good.
[1:30:56] Camp Tamion.
[1:30:59] Tamion.
[1:31:00] Tammy's not here, all right.
[1:31:03] Damian know what the T that is AT.
[1:31:06] Ryan.
[1:31:10] It's S.
[1:31:11] Chapter Noise.
[1:31:14] Yeah, from the garden. He's from the garden.
[1:31:17] He lives next to my sister.
[1:31:18] He's my sister's neighbor.
[1:31:22] Ryan. Ryan, do you want to comment?
[1:31:26] OK, alright.
[1:31:31] Yes, if you. Yeah, let's do that.
[1:31:33] Come on down.
[1:31:36] Yes.
[1:31:40] Sorry I haven't.
[1:31:42] No worries at all.
[1:31:44] So please say your name and your.
[1:31:47] Spoke with you.
[1:31:49] A little bit. So my issue name and neighborhood. Jessica Rasmussen Jessica Rasmussen Yes, I live in the gardens on Zen Rd.
[1:31:56] OK, sorry.
[1:31:58] So my daughter has special needs.
[1:32:01] And she rides a bus to and from school.
[1:32:05] And it's a specialized bus that has oxygen tanks and.
[1:32:09] Special medical devices, things like that that.
[1:32:12] She needs she has multiple seizures a day and has them on the bus regularly.
[1:32:16] She is the first one to be.
[1:32:18] Pick or the last one.
[1:32:20] To be picked up in the morning.
[1:32:22] The first one to be dropped off in the evening because they don't want to have to use the oxygen and stuff with it on the bus,
[1:32:24] right?
[1:32:27] So there has been a few times when the bus cannot drop the kids off after school and since she's the first one being dropped off,
[1:32:32] there's like.
[1:32:37] Half a dozen special needs children.
[1:32:39] That also can't be dropped off.
[1:32:42] That have been there crying on the bus needed to be offloaded.
[1:32:45] From the bus.
[1:32:46] And having no adult there.
[1:32:49] We had to make a bunch of phone calls. We had neighbors knocking on doors.
[1:32:53] The problem is the bus cannot make it from.
[1:32:55] Center St. going east on Water Lane.
[1:32:58] And then it can't go north onto Eden.
[1:33:01] Because there's too many cars parked.
[1:33:03] And I understand that it sounds like.
[1:33:05] The cars that are parked by the stop signs will be removed.
[1:33:09] But it's also going around the corner. So basically the bus has to go from Center St. and make a hard right and then a hard left
[1:33:13] in order to get around.
[1:33:17] So that's happened to.
[1:33:18] A couple of times, but what most concerning is the transportation system called me this morning.
[1:33:24] And they said we need to know whether or not your daughter will.
[1:33:27] We'll be riding the bus within 1/2 hour of picking her up or 20 minutes of picking her up because we cannot navigate your
[1:33:31] neighborhood and we will stop services if we don't hear from you.
[1:33:37] The problem is.
[1:33:38] My daughter's sleep is really messed up. I was up with her from 3:00 to 4:30 in the morning. I wasn't sure if she was going to
[1:33:42] make it to bus.
[1:33:45] For the bus at 7:35.
[1:33:47] Yesterday and so.
[1:33:49] She couldn't use the bus because I couldn't tell them in time.
[1:33:52] Yesterday she had a seizure.
[1:33:54] 10 minutes before the bus came.
[1:33:56] And we have a system where we just put.
[1:33:58] The no bus symbol up in our window.
[1:34:01] And they said that that wouldn't work anymore because it takes so much time for them to come through and try to figure out how to
[1:34:05] get around the neighborhood.
[1:34:09] And they can't go the other way, I guess because it's illegal for them to have the.
[1:34:13] Child walk across the street.
[1:34:14] Yeah, so anyway.
[1:34:17] They can't back up, correct? Yes.
[1:34:19] And so.
[1:34:20] And we got you, you, you 2 are going to get in contact. OK, we're going to get.
[1:34:25] So anyway, I just wanted, yes, I know we're on it.
[1:34:28] And I just wanted to put in my.
[1:34:30] Little bits that like it affects more than just.
[1:34:33] You know, annoying college students that aren't supposed to be parking there or someone backing up around the corner too far,
[1:34:39] things like that, someone's boat or all this stuff. Right? Yeah. So all of it just adds together, but.
[1:34:44] Thanks for letting me be heard, you're awesome.
[1:34:47] Appreciate all you do, your amazing mother.
[1:34:50] OK, we got Brandon Peterson from the garden.
[1:34:56] All right. One minute, Brandon, you're awesome.
[1:34:59] Thanks. I'll be quick. Brandon Peterson.
[1:35:02] I'm really excited about SHIELD. I think that this will help address a lot of the problems. I think that.
[1:35:08] We have codes for a reason. I run a small business on the side.
[1:35:12] And I could have.
[1:35:14] Illegally run it from my home.
[1:35:16] But I wanted to abide by the code.
[1:35:18] In the city.
[1:35:19] But that means that my break even point is $60,000.
[1:35:24] For I see a single dollar in my bank account, I have to earn $60,000 to pay for a 1000 square foot shop.
[1:35:30] And so I'm very.
[1:35:32] I have very little.
[1:35:33] Sympathy when people are complaining about $450 for towing.
[1:35:37] Times that by a lot.
[1:35:38] And that's what I'm paying to uphold the code.
[1:35:40] And even still, I know in the future all teenage drivers.
[1:35:43] Five quarter driveway extra wide to be able to accommodate that.
[1:35:46] There's plenty of ways that we can solve this.
[1:35:49] I do think that.
[1:35:50] Putting the onus on the members of the neighborhood.
[1:35:52] It's kind of pitting ourselves against each other.
[1:35:55] So I don't love that.
[1:35:56] And that's why I think that it is.
[1:35:58] Critical that we figure out how to do this code enforcement and make it happen.
[1:36:02] Thank you, Sir.
[1:36:03] Awesome. Umm.
[1:36:04] Let's jump to Ross Pegado.
[1:36:06] From Bridgeport.
[1:36:07] Ross is gone. Dakota Green from the garden.
[1:36:11] Sorry, can someone take?
[1:36:12] Sure.
[1:36:14] Mark on.
[1:36:17] I My name is Dana Blake and I'm from Bridgeport.
[1:36:23] I was just wondering if we at some point could.
[1:36:27] Have.
[1:36:28] Some documentation on what you need from.
[1:36:31] The neighborhood leadership and what you need from.
[1:36:35] Are you planning on moving forward on Tuesday?
[1:36:39] What's the plan was that packet?
[1:36:42] You're talking long term. OK, awesome. Just like an onboarding packet or whatever, you don't need it tonight.
[1:36:49] Yeah, yes, we're gathering them.
[1:36:51] Thank you. Do not leave if you're a leader without giving a good template of what that looks like. OK?
[1:36:58] Yeah, speak to the chair, Jay, Sorry.
[1:37:00] Do not leave if you are a leader and have not given a statement, Mr. Mayor.
[1:37:06] Mr. Mayor, can I have the microphone? Yeah, go ahead.
[1:37:09] Please do not leave. Please do not leave until you're gonna have to teach me that. Hey, I thought Julie for two years.
[1:37:18] Please give your contact information to If you were a leader. Let's get with DK David Kyle over here.
[1:37:27] OK, Julie Cox already went.
[1:37:29] Kristin Tanner from.
[1:37:34] She is not here.
[1:37:36] OK, he says he was.
[1:37:37] When the when the.
[1:37:40] A Stella.
[1:37:42] Yeah, alright. He's good. Sorry, guys. He's good, Whitney. Good.
[1:37:45] OK guys, I'm sorry I can't read.
[1:37:48] Corey Anderson.
[1:37:49] From the Maples.
[1:37:52] You sign that paper. OK, All right. No. Hey.
[1:37:55] Nothing wrong with that.
[1:37:58] Yeah, you want to take his thought? Come on down.
[1:38:00] Let's do that, yeah.
[1:38:04] Well, the handwriting.
[1:38:07] Now I Emily McLean from the Maples.
[1:38:10] I appreciate that you guys are having these discussions with us and giving us the opportunity to.
[1:38:15] Do research within our neighborhoods and come back although.
[1:38:18] I am. I'm going to agree with the other person whose name I already forgot.
[1:38:22] That, uh.
[1:38:22] Putting the onus fully.
[1:38:24] On us as a neighborhood where we don't understand all the like.
[1:38:28] Laws and repercussions and things.
[1:38:30] And it does make it feel.
[1:38:32] A little tense when?
[1:38:35] I don't know if there's a way to have like.
[1:38:38] A council member mediator that helps with all of these meetings or.
[1:38:42] Or something that can just make it a little more official than.
[1:38:46] Then kind of wild discussions and help maybe correct us if we're off course as we're having these discussions within our
[1:38:49] neighborhood or?
[1:38:52] Make sure we're giving the.
[1:38:54] Proper due process and.
[1:38:56] I don't know. I love that. I would love a little more guidance because I do want the safety of our.
[1:39:01] Our families and our children and.
[1:39:03] And to follow proper code.
[1:39:05] I just think that's a lot to put on on us as neighbors. Thank you.
[1:39:09] Especially we have staff that are, I mean.
[1:39:11] Holden, did you ever think you'd be a parking expert when you want to be a sheriff? But here you are, so liaison between staff and
[1:39:15] and so forth.
[1:39:19] To answer the questions with the our staff that are subject.
[1:39:21] Matter actually talking.
[1:39:22] OK, Emily Larson.
[1:39:26] She left, left OK.
[1:39:27] Corey Kirkland.
[1:39:33] Marcus, you're up, dude.
[1:39:34] You want to say anything?
[1:39:35] Yeah, go Cougars.
[1:39:42] Well, I just wanted to.
[1:39:43] Ask. I just want to ask the impetus of like, starting this conversation.
[1:39:48] One of our council members got elected.
[1:39:50] To office based on the.
[1:39:53] Fiasco to happen in the.
[1:39:54] And the parking stuff of the lake.
[1:39:56] Seems that.
[1:39:57] That same fiasco is now making its way.
[1:40:01] Don't potentially the guardians where I live.
[1:40:05] I I think we should, I think we should tell boats and all that, those trailers and everything like this.
[1:40:09] But there.
[1:40:12] But there is various times where you have family visit or something like that. I don't want them to be fined between the hours of
[1:40:16] one and five because they're parked there at night.
[1:40:21] I think that's, I think that's an overburden.
[1:40:24] Also too.
[1:40:26] The Gardens is one of the few places that does not have an HOA. I think it's maybe the only.
[1:40:31] Mabel, do they neither.
[1:40:33] I don't want to start something that's gonna lead down to it to slip yourself. We have an HOA set up in the gardens because now we
[1:40:38] have this citizen, citizen LED group that now.
[1:40:43] Thinks we should get into other things.
[1:40:45] That is going to happen and I'm hopefully that's not going to happen the cars because I do not want an HOA. Thank you.
[1:40:52] For the record, Marcus is anti HOA.
[1:40:54] We get that down, OK.
[1:40:56] Second, all right, so.
[1:40:58] All right, Stephanie.
[1:40:59] From the garden.
[1:41:01] You're good.
[1:41:02] Catherine from the gardens.
[1:41:05] Wrong paper? No worries.
[1:41:07] Mellie from Maples.
[1:41:10] Fred already went.
[1:41:12] Jessica Rasmussen already went.
[1:41:15] Marianne Height.
[1:41:19] You got we all good, OK.
[1:41:21] Yes, please.
[1:41:23] Yes.
[1:41:24] Sorry, wrong, she left to say my name.
[1:41:28] Can you just quickly tell us the process of changing some of the wording in the code?
[1:41:33] That could maybe help out our neighborhoods so that we great question.
[1:41:37] You want to walk through that?
[1:41:38] I don't.
[1:41:39] Ask a clarifying question about.
[1:41:41] Specifically in regard to what?
[1:41:43] But I mean a code revision.
[1:41:46] Very Simply put.
[1:41:48] We draft that.
[1:41:49] We take it to our legal counsel, We make sure that we're not doing anything that would violate the Constitution of the state of
[1:41:53] Utah or the federal Constitution.
[1:41:58] It comes back to the Council and then we vote on an implementation.
[1:42:01] So if there's something specific that you would like to see change, that's just something that we need to have made recommended to
[1:42:04] us.
[1:42:08] So you could recommend it to any council? I would like to recommend changing the word.
[1:42:12] Member of the neighborhood.
[1:42:14] To be more specific on who can actually vote.
[1:42:17] Right in the entire.
[1:42:19] Every other city, it says.
[1:42:22] By the owner.
[1:42:24] But we say a member of the neighborhood, which can be very hard to.
[1:42:28] Ambiguous. Ambiguous.
[1:42:30] Mr. Mayor, could I share a clarifying point I got from?
[1:42:33] Mr. earlier today.
[1:42:36] I approached our legal counsel about.
[1:42:39] Who could vote? Who couldn't vote? Because I know that that was conversations being had in multiple neighborhoods.
[1:42:45] And his advice was since this is a citizen LED.
[1:42:51] Endeavor that we shouldn't dictate how you structure that, but that we have to ensure.
[1:42:56] It is a fair and accurate representation of the residency. So, he said. If you want to do 1 vote per household, that needs to be
[1:43:02] the homeowner. If you want to open it up to all voters or everyone who's voting age in that neighborhood.
[1:43:08] That's a decision that your neighborhood can make as well.
[1:43:11] As far as the code specifically referencing our 75%.
[1:43:15] That's something that I think the Council as a whole has agreed that we're willing to consider as long as we can get.
[1:43:21] Even close to a majority consensus.
[1:43:25] Because I know it's not necessarily.
[1:43:27] Possible to get that 75% threshold like you have?
[1:43:31] In Legeminat in Bridgeport.
[1:43:35] So something that we've.
[1:43:37] Considered as well as a council was.
[1:43:39] Can we pass a resolution that gives an exception for this process so that you don't have to hit that threshold?
[1:43:45] And we kind of just need to.
[1:43:47] Talk with the neighborhoods and figure out.
[1:43:49] What is actually realistic?
[1:43:51] What's going to demonstrate that there is broad support for this?
[1:43:54] And give the Council, like I said earlier.
[1:43:57] That, uh.
[1:43:58] Sufficient reason to act.
[1:44:04] So the Council is actually authorized to.
[1:44:07] Implement a parking program.
[1:44:09] Regardless of uh.
[1:44:11] How many votes? How many?
[1:44:12] Like if we choose that, it's in the best interest to do that.
[1:44:15] We're allowed to do that under the code.
[1:44:18] So the parking permit.
[1:44:19] Like that whole program was something that.
[1:44:21] The prior council instituted to say hey.
[1:44:23] If neighborhoods come to us.
[1:44:25] Like we will do this.
[1:44:27] But the council still reserves the right to to have a plan.
[1:44:31] Regardless of that. So I'd say let the neighborhood select their own rules on how they want to.
[1:44:35] Elect their captains, who are going to bring us a plan.
[1:44:38] And if we're all good with saying.
[1:44:39] As long as you guys feel comfortable about how you've.
[1:44:42] Like selected your representative.
[1:44:45] Like I'm willing to support.
[1:44:46] You know, whatever program you guys come up with as long as.
[1:44:49] I feel like it's in the best interest of the city.
[1:44:51] And uh.
[1:44:52] The residents as well.
[1:44:53] Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. May I point out that we have tried?
[1:44:56] A top down approach in the past where you forced.
[1:44:59] The city forced.
[1:45:00] Certain requirements on neighborhoods across the city and it was an abysmal failure.
[1:45:05] Yeah, Top.
[1:45:06] It's been definitely tough so.
[1:45:08] OK with that.
[1:45:10] We are going to adjourn the meeting tonight. We appreciate it.
[1:45:13] You got the yeah guys.
[1:45:15] Yes, sorry.
[1:45:18] Oh, you're fine.
[1:45:20] You're fine.
[1:45:22] Appreciate it. One minute, yeah.
[1:45:24] Just going to take a quick second. I I don't understand why.
[1:45:28] The truth is so hard to get out here, but I really want to just get some information that I think would have been vital to making
[1:45:32] decisions before.
[1:45:36] 3/4 of the people were gone.
[1:45:38] My name is Mike Lamont. I'm the CEO of Utah Parking Authority. There was a parade of misinformation that has been.
[1:45:45] Pass through here.
[1:45:48] As far we we've done parking enforcement for Vineyard City since 2023.
[1:45:53] There have only been two communities that have adopted.
[1:45:57] Parking permits on their public streets that go through their.
[1:46:00] Their private communities.
[1:46:03] Providence in the Springs.
[1:46:05] And both of those communities.
[1:46:06] Are still enforcing parking as of tonight.
[1:46:09] And are active and so I don't understand what the.
[1:46:12] What is being said here?
[1:46:14] That 2 communities have adopted it and both have.
[1:46:19] Gotten rid of it, so that's not true.
[1:46:22] Providence in.
[1:46:24] Here are the numbers.
[1:46:25] In 2023.
[1:46:26] Providence can I?
[1:46:27] Can I finish 30 seconds? Yep. Providence booted. We booted 118 cars.
[1:46:32] And towed 3 cars in 2024 it went down to 87 booths, one tow.
[1:46:37] In 2025 went from 40.
[1:46:39] Down to 41 boots and one toe.
[1:46:41] The Springs.
[1:46:42] IN2023115 boots, in 202433 boots and in 2025.
[1:46:48] 24 boots and two toes.
[1:46:49] That's.
[1:46:51] 65% and 72%.
[1:46:54] Decrease. Umm.
[1:46:55] From having active.
[1:46:56] Parking permits on their on their property. Our role is simple.
[1:47:00] The city gives us the guidelines and we enforce those.
[1:47:03] At any point can the city change their mind or the community change their mind and say we want to do something differently?
[1:47:08] But uh.
[1:47:10] Up until this point.
[1:47:12] I've made myself available to the City Council.
[1:47:15] None of them.
[1:47:16] Except one has taken me up on that.
[1:47:18] So I would appreciate it if.
[1:47:20] Before you go.
[1:47:21] To the media or.
[1:47:23] To these communities and have a parade of people giving.
[1:47:26] Incorrect information in front of the entire.
[1:47:29] Community, Yeah.
[1:47:30] That you would.
[1:47:31] At least.
[1:47:32] Ask from the from the company that you've contracted.
[1:47:35] What the actual stats are. Thank you, Sir. Can you get those steps to our David Kyle that that'd be super helpful. So thank you.
[1:47:39] Appreciate that.
[1:47:42] Alrighty guys. With that, we're going to turn the meeting tonight. Thank you so much for being involved in this process if you are
[1:47:46] were elected.
[1:47:50] As they.
[1:47:51] Neighborhood representative, I guess you would say. Can you please get with David Kyle?
[1:47:55] Over here get your will get your information will be in contact.
[1:47:59] And, umm.