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We're out of pens.

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Well they they have them on sale on Amazon for like you can buy like 100 for 10 bucks so.

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All righty guys, welcome out to City Council meeting this evening. It is March 31st, 20266. Let's see, what is it? Is it 6:00?

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Yep, 6:00 PM I'm Mayor Zach Stratton.

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I'll be presiding in this meeting and.

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We are going to jump right into the opening prayer and the pledge. I'm going to turn the time over to Ezra to lead us out in that.

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Our Heavenly Father, we're grateful for the opportunity we have to.

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Be here tonight to deliberate the needs of the city we're grateful for.

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Thy hand in and all our dealings and.

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We pray that though.

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Would guide us in.

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Thy spirit as we make decisions this evening.

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We're grateful for.

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Our government and the opportunity that we have to live in a free country, we're so grateful for.

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Leadership at many levels and.

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And pray for their their safety is.

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They seek to help others.

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We're grateful for.

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This time, this evening, and say these things in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, Amen. Amen.

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What you say?

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Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God.

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Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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All right, you made it.

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And you're not even wearing a hat today.

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You do have your hat, OK.

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All righty.

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We are going to start off the meeting this evening by doing a public hearing to amend the consolidated fee schedule for the tough

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transportation utility fee.

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And Vineyard days.

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Do we need a motion to go into a public hearing or can we just go straight into this?

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We do. I yeah, I believe so. Moved.

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Do I have a second?

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Second, awesome. All in favor.

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Aye, OK. Motion passes.

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Alrighty, let's turn the time over to anyone in the public who would like to to talk about.

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This amendment to the consolidated fee schedule.

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Please come on down.

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Do us.

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Go ahead.

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Yeah, should we? Yeah, let's talk about what the change, Yes, let's do context for. Thank you so much so.

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OK, we we good. Do you want to kind of go over the the the proposed changes DK of the?

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Of the.

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Consolidated fee schedule and the Vineyard days.

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Yes, I can do that. Thank you, Sir. OK.

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OK. So it's proposed that.

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We changed the Vineyard Day vendors.

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Move the maximum fee for vendors from $100 to $200.

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Car show participants, which is a new.

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Event.

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Or 4 Vineyard dates charge $10 per participant.

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We have also a new.

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Addition to the Vineyard Days parade, which is a motorized participant.

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Business and that's $100.

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I also and I failed to skipped over one page.

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OK Umm. Uh.

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Which is the first part of the.

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Transportation. Should I? I'll just continue so Page 1.

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Sorry, it was printed front and back and I didn't notice.

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So transportation utility fee the proposal is to eliminate the transportation.

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Utility fee.

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Take it to $0.00.

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Per Eru.

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Back going back to Vineyard days, the proposal is.

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To charge motorized.

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Parade participants. Nonprofits.

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$50.

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And motorized parade participants from schools $25.

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Let me make sure I.

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Got all that?

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Yes.

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So those are the proposed changes. OK, awesome. Thank you so much.

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Any discussion from council on that before we open up for public comment?

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Just to make sure resident the residential fees removed as long as along with the business residential and business fees.

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They're all removed.

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Yeah, OK.

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Awesome.

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Yes, please. Come on down.

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Daria Evans, Vineyard resident also Villas resident. I just want to.

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Clarify what I just heard.

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Are we?

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Making it now that there is no.

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Tough no transportation utility fee for residents and businesses.

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This is.

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In perpetuity.

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No, no fee for.

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Road maintenance.

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What are we just going to?

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Rely on B&C Class Rd. funds.

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To maintain our roads throughout the city.

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That's that's a great question. Thank you so much for that. So.

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And also I just want to ask.

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To go along with that.

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How many businesses were affected by the?

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Greater amount.

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Based on the square footage, how many really were?

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In a world of hurt.

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Because of that.

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Sure. And.

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Yeah. I just want to know how we're going to fund Rd. maintenance if we are just going to $0.00. Thank you so much.

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Parker, you really dug into this. Do you want to respond to that or do you want me to?

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Yes, I would be happy to.

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Although I don't have any fancy comments prepared so we're going off the cuff. There we go.

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So.

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I have been an advocate for removing the transportation utility fee.

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Since the day I learned it was enacted.

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There I'm going to address both your questions, but just to share the context really quickly.

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After those first.

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Businesses receive their utility bills.

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And word started coming out about it.

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Obviously there were some really big egregious ones and that would be most of the ones that were 1600 N area or larger.

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Like the megaplex was like $7000 a month.

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Which?

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Those kind of fees, I think one are egregious and not representative of the actual.

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Problem they were trying to solve.

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The as you saw in the work sessions and the council meetings where we had the.

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Civil engineering firm.

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And the contractors that.

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Did the studies come out on that?

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The root cause of the road damage is.

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The Heavy.

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Construction vehicles, trucks using the roads and putting wear on them.

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One of the things that I felt was.

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Most egregious about this was.

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For example that one that went.

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Pretty viral on Facebook. The $5000 fee that was the same as their lease.

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Previously.

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Those people use 900 feet.

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Of vineyards, roads.

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I mean from entering Vineyard to their place of work.

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And it's all residential. I mean residential vehicles like cars, commuter traffic.

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That's not.

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Reflective.

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Of an appropriately structured fee in my opinion.

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The second aspect of that is that it's not a friendly.

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Tool to use to incentivize business and where we know we have.

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Huge.

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Pains and issues with the residency when it comes to property taxes and we have to build and bolster our sales tax to alleviate

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that burden.

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We have to make Vineyard as friendly as possible for more businesses to come into Vineyard.

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And so removing the transportation utility fee, I think aids in that.

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It wasn't just.

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Large businesses, though, that were.

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Affected by that, by the square footage I mean.

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For example, I reached out to.

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The yard development where we have the strip mall or those.

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Like the restaurants over there you got?

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Mopeds, Little Caesars, The chiropractic office.

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Some of those.

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Businesses have already gone.

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Out of Vineyard because of fees that were associated.

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Not just with the city, but with that developments and their common.

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Area usage fees.

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So adding the tough on top of it.

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All of those.

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I shouldn't say all because I didn't talk to all of them.

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All of the ones that I spoke with said when our leases up were out of this fee stays.

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So there was no.

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Chance.

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That.

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The studies conducted on these fees.

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We're actually going to generate the revenue that they said that they were going to generate.

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Because every single one of those businesses intended to leave.

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When they started getting the additional bills.

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So I think that this is 1 and important step.

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In making Vineyard more business friendly.

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Two to answer your questions more specifically.

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As we dig into the budget and we look at.

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Where we have levers to pull and how we can.

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Balance this.

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I'll just be very upfront. I'm operating from the perspective.

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That.

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We don't have a.

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Revenue problem.

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Or a tax problem.

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We have a spending problem.

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We need to cut the spending.

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In line with what revenues we can generate in a reasonable manner.

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So when we look at how we're going to fund.

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The roads, there's some additional levers that we can pull one.

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If we get the rest of our expenses in check and I think that we're pretty much on track to see.

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About a 15% reduction in our overall.

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Spend from last year's.

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Fiscal year budget.

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If we can actually achieve that, that frees up a lot of money to help with the road maintenance.

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Additionally.

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I've reached out to our RDA director about this.

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A couple months ago and I've talked to some of our.

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Administrative staff and finance director about can we use?

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RDA monies.

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To maintain or build the infrastructure that is still active in the RDA and to my understanding, we can use.

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Some of those monies for some of those things under certain.

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Purposes and guidances.

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I'm not the legal expert on that, so I'm going to not comment too in depth on it just because I don't necessarily have the best

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understanding of where those nuances lie.

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But it seems that we're actually, I think, in a position where we can leverage a lot of that stuff that hasn't been done

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previously to alleviate some of this burden.

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I think with a structured approach like that.

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You know, kind of cutting where our.

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Frivolous, more frivolous expenses are across the budget as a whole will be in a position to cover the expenses. Now, that's not

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to say that it's going to be.

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Easy.

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And maybe the road quality will be a little bit worse.

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But I would much rather.

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Deal with a slightly bumpy Rd. on occasion.

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Then continually tax ourselves out of prosperity.

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I hope that all made sense.

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Thank you, Parker.

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Any other comments?

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On this from Council.

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Kim, please come on up, Sir. Thank you.

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That was loud.

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Yeah, I heard the.

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The comments about heavy duty vehicles, those primarily that are working in subdivisions that are being developed or projects that

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are being developed.

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But I didn't hear anything about.

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Them bearing any kind of.

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Cost in association with that.

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Wear and tear that they're putting on the roads when the rest of us are barely touching it.

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May I?

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Please go ahead. Yes, so.

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Those development agreements.

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Are all largely in place, so the transportation utility fee isn't something that we can use.

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Directly to.

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Better address that issue.

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So we need to look at another Ave. to do that and that's I think part of why.

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We've had the discussions both.

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In public, and I know that the mayor's been working on this as well.

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Renegotiating the impact fees and the agreements that we're having with.

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The developers that are active in Vineyard and putting that wear on the infrastructure.

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Because we.

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I mean, ultimately.

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Even if those impact fees don't directly fund.

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The road maintenance.

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What they do do is alleviate a financial burden somewhere else that allows us to use the general fund then to.

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Cover down on the road maintenance.

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Thank you.

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Any other comments?

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Counsel.

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OK.

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I would just echo the.

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The mayor's done a phenomenal job.

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Shrinking the size of our government. I know he'll have further.

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Information on that in terms of what he's going to request in the upcoming annual budget?

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And I know the.

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The reorganization has been.

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Extremely successful in that and we always increase in revenue, I mean anywhere between 800,000 and a million and if you look at

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the cost reductions.

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That the mayor has done. I feel confident how it comes together is going to be Parker, you know, putting it together and if he's

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got confidence to be able to make it happen. I the numbers are there.

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And there's further cuts that we think we could make.

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And I just think looking at the.

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What they're thinking about doing? It's possible.

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And I would rather and same thing.

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You can look up and down.

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A Geneva road and everyone's chosen the other side of the road.

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And they looked at the current landscape and for us to go at a tough.

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It's like, wow, they already weren't picking us so.

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Piling it on.

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We've got to be more competitive to get them to our side of Geneva Rd. so.

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Thank you.

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Any other comments?

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Councilman Nair, yes, I do have.

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Quite a few.

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Do we want to close the public hearing first? Do we have anyone else from the public who wants to? Yeah. Do we have anyone else?

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Yeah, we could, but.

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Yeah, yeah.

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The reason I asked is I know it's going to be on here later as a as a business item where we can do that. But if we're in the

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public hearing and we're already talking about it, can we just continue the conversation And that way if somebody has a question

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when it comes up, they can just come participate still? Sure, sure. I would like this to be as open to the public as possible.

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Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

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So.

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I did not vote for this when this was adopted late last year.

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Primarily because at the time.

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I was still kind of vying to be. This was my very first meeting where this was adopted and.

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I had read through a lot, but I hadn't had.

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Enough time to dig into the actual study of the transportation utility fee.

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And.

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Just from first glance it looked.

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Excessive.

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Mostly because of the structure of it.

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For residents, we had a nice flat rate for businesses that kind of scaled based on size.

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And.

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I know there was some urgency. Based on what?

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Some of the members of the state legislature were pushing that.

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Basically required certain.

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Certain activities that happen before implementing a fee.

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To to make sure that those fees directly tied to the impacts.

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That businesses or residents had on the roads.

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So. So with that, I chose not to vote for that.

295
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But I am concerned.

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With getting rid of it entirely.

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I know the business.

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Communities, it's too high.

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This structure, like I said before, is. It's not.

300
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Relevant to where it's not directly correlated with the impact that they have on the road. So I do, I do want to.

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Significantly lower that.

302
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But I am concerned about our budget.

303
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I know.

304
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We've identified areas to.

305
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Provide some reductions, but I haven't yet seen.

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The 1:00 to 1:00.

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Cuts equalling.

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Things that we are.

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Going to be able to do to reduce our.

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Our revenue as well.

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My main concerns with that on the transportation utility fee are.

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That.

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Road maintenance is.

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A lot cheaper than Rd. rebuilding.

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It's not just about having a worse quality of life, but it's about.

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Putting a greater burden on our future.

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By delaying.

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Routine maintenance if there are any routine maintenance.

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Things that get ignored because of our inability to fund this.

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It will cost us five times more.

321
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To rebuild in the future rather than.

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Trying to.

323
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To smooth out that curve and and focus on maintenance.

324
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I do think there's room in between to to have a reasonable fee.

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Much much lower like.

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Talking 10X lower.

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On businesses than.

328
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What we've been charging and that more of a.

329
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A flat rate would be well, but.

330
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I I recognize that if we remove this entirely.

331
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Reinstating it would.

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Require us to follow.

333
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That entirely new study process at the states outlined.

334
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For doing something like this so.

335
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I just want to.

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Make sure.

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That, uh.

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Whatever it is that we do here.

339
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Is directly correlated with.

340
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Reductions to the budget and actually looking at the numbers and saying.

341
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Here's how much revenue we're going to lower.

342
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Here's how much expenditures we're going to lower.

343
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And short of having.

344
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A more in depth analysis on that.

345
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I just don't feel prepared to.

346
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Completely eliminated, but I would like to propose a significant reduction of it.

347
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And instead of having.

348
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A per KSF. Just switching that to a.

349
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Flat rate per month.

350
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Something that.

351
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We previously brought up, and I'm not necessarily advocating for this, but I'd like to just maybe get the.

352
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Conversation around it.

353
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Was that when somebody.

354
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Files for a business license.

355
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Or reapplies for a business license that the fee would be built into the business license.

356
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Could I just maybe collect some?

357
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,640
Feedback or thoughts on that as opposed to it being a monthly?

358
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Utility fee.

359
00:28:09,630 --> 00:28:11,570
There seem to be a lot of people, or a lot of.

360
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Draws on that possible.

361
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Business License.

362
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We talked about that as a way to help us with the overpopulation.

363
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,520
Over occupancy area. Sorry.

364
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,280
Of and so.

365
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If we layers.

366
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If we layer lots and lots of fees on top of the business license unless it becomes unwieldy.

367
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Out of curiosity, just a second and 3rd order effect here that I don't think we previously considered, but I'm glad you just

368
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brought it up, David.

369
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Is there's been discussion about us creating a?

370
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Essentially the requirement for if you.

371
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Have a rental unit in Vineyard? You get a business license for that.

372
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In doing that, you now set yourself up for the.

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Business transportation utility fee as well.

374
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So we already are layering on.

375
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More and more and more, it's just where they.

376
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Getting from now. I'm not an advocate for keeping the transportation utility fee at all.

377
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My theory is.

378
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OK, for example, let's take the forge.

379
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Right, we know we're struggling to get.

380
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An entertainment anchor.

381
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In the forge, right?

382
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If we look at.

383
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Topgolf.

384
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Or we look at.

385
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Megaplex.

386
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What are?

387
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And I apologize because I know Evan's not here, so we're not going to have the exact answer.

388
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But how much sales tax revenue do they generate for the city each year?

389
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And if we think about it in terms of that.

390
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Right, I think Evan sent an e-mail earlier today.

391
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To all of us.

392
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That specified, you know, the transportation utility fee.

393
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For the remainder of this year, the projection was something like.

394
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$525,000 or maybe $600,000, but in that range.

395
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My theory is.

396
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You make more money.

397
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If you can actually become more business friendly.

398
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:08,120
And you can land somebody that's going to generate significant revenue in the city in such a way that we.

399
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,160
Benefit from the tax dollars, the sales tax revenue more so than the tough.

400
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And so my thought is, how can we?

401
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,280
Get the fees out of the way.

402
00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:22,250
So that we can incentivize business to actually come here and actually grow.

403
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,480
That revenue source?

404
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:26,920
I'm sorry.

405
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,000
Well, Chip, would you like to just while you come up, what would be your thoughts on? Oh, yeah, come on up, Come on up, Chip.

406
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,210
What would be your thoughts on?

407
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,320
It sounds like.

408
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The business.

409
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,200
I mean, the business is my biggest concern.

410
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,320
Yeah, umm.

411
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,960
With the residential units for example.

412
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If you have.

413
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A rental unit.

414
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Then both the homeowner and the rental each pay that fee and so it kind of balances out the.

415
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,040
The impact on the roads.

416
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,240
Rather than.

417
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,090
Just looking at property taxes, which.

418
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,400
You know you're just looking at the home value.

419
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,880
So what about?

420
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:02,840
Potentially.

421
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,760
Eliminating the business fee.

422
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,120
To recognize that.

423
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,400
You know, we want businesses to come in, but.

424
00:31:09,290 --> 00:31:11,370
Still maintaining the residential.

425
00:31:12,890 --> 00:31:17,770
I can recognize the logic there. I am not a huge fan of keeping.

426
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,200
More fees on the residents, I mean we already.

427
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,560
By a significant margin have.

428
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,880
High property taxes and fees across the board.

429
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,440
I mean just in the last.

430
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,640
Two years we've seen.

431
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,880
The property tax go up, we've seen the water rates go up, we saw the sewer rate go up like.

432
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120
It's at some point.

433
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,920
The government has to acknowledge the fact that we are outspending what we can.

434
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,800
Continually generating revenue and we have to curtail the spend.

435
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:46,880
And I'm.

436
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,480
Fine to like on that that approach I'm fine to.

437
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,920
Eliminate fees to reduce taxes.

438
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,360
Once we've.

439
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,720
Definitively identify those things, that's what.

440
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,160
I want to make sure we're not.

441
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,960
Putting the cart before the horse on.

442
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,320
Cutting our.

443
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,680
Revenue before we've cut our spending, sure.

444
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:10,440
So chip could chip please chip price Providence one of the things that I really that.

445
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,560
Really. Kind of.

446
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,600
Gets in my craw about.

447
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,320
About.

448
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,640
Fees is that?

449
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360
This is just a normal, another form of taxation.

450
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,400
And if you guys are not getting to a place where you've you've already maxed out your tax bracket.

451
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,240
That you can legally.

452
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,480
Put upon the people of Vineyard.

453
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,760
If you're at that.

454
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,080
Max bracket. That means that you guys are doing it wrong.

455
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,480
Right. You should be able to run this city and provide your services and not have.

456
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,760
To have big spending problems if you have maxed out your credit card.

457
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,760
US where your credit card.

458
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,560
Right.

459
00:32:47,910 --> 00:32:49,170
If you guys keep.

460
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:56,120
The environment at a place where it is nominal and and functional, then you're going to draw in people that are going to.

461
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Backfill.

462
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,690
That deficit that you have.

463
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,440
And so.

464
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,040
My biggest concern and my biggest problem is that once you put it.

465
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Tax or a fee in place?

466
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:12,080
They're there. Very, very few times does the government come in and say, you know what?

467
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,880
We filled our coffers. It's time. We're going to turn this off. That doesn't happen.

468
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,080
Because they're like.

469
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,090
What for? We can continue to use this for this other project I have?

470
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,640
Biggest problem with government?

471
00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:29,570
So if you guys can find a way to make it so that you guys are drawing in business and drawing in people.

472
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,930
You get more of us moving into Vineyard, you get more people moving.

473
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Their businesses.

474
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,120
UVU actually wants to put their stuff here.

475
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,400
All that stuff is going to generate exactly what you're looking for, so maybe putting a Band-Aid on it.

476
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,600
Not a bad idea.

477
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,400
Let's just get through the next.

478
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10 years and.

479
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,800
Maybe your tax base will be there.

480
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Thank you.

481
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Any other comments?

482
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Discussion from Council.

483
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,880
Thank you for that comment, I really appreciate that the the long term view has always been.

484
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,370
Key. In my mind I do.

485
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,640
I am.

486
00:34:08,140 --> 00:34:11,810
I made this promise as I was running that Vineyard would have.

487
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,600
The uh.

488
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,880
Lowest property taxes in 20 years.

489
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,320
And.

490
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,720
Depending on the decisions that are made over the next 20 years, that can absolutely happen.

491
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,160
I'm confident we can provide the absolute best services.

492
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,920
While maintaining the lowest taxes as we continue to grow and and see those economic benefits come in.

493
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,000
And so.

494
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,520
I just want to make sure that along the process.

495
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,960
We're not setting ourselves up by.

496
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,240
You know, not maintaining.

497
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Our road for a dollar now.

498
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:47,880
That we have to pay those, those 5 dollars, $10 expenses down the road on that long term curve so as long as we can.

499
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,080
Identify that I'm absolutely supportive of getting rid of these fees.

500
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,850
I do know it is a goal of this council as well to to cut taxes significantly.

501
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,360
And so I want to make sure that.

502
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,440
If we're going to.

503
00:35:00,430 --> 00:35:02,690
Start pulling levers. Let's make sure we're.

504
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,010
Not pulling all of them off at the same time.

505
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,240
If if we do need them to maintain.

506
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,600
One thing I don't want to do is.

507
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,770
Just to deficit spend without any.

508
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,120
Certain structure. I mean, if we've got.

509
00:35:16,210 --> 00:35:21,050
A structure laid out for the next three years of hey, we have a plan to spend it to our reserves.

510
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,200
These years.

511
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,000
Recognizing that our goal is to continue to get more businesses, continue to get more sales tax growth.

512
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,760
That's something I could get behind, but.

513
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,410
Just as long as the plan is there, essentially.

514
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,960
I'm super supportive of.

515
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,200
Turning the lever off right now, I think for the businesses, it makes a ton of sense to turn that lever off right now.

516
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,760
But anyway, those are.

517
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,320
Thanks for that are my thoughts.

518
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,960
On transportation utility fee only.

519
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,890
There was something in here about giving the mayor authority to.

520
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,120
Reduce fees and I just wanted to talk about what.

521
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,360
What that?

522
00:36:02,990 --> 00:36:04,650
Was for or.

523
00:36:05,460 --> 00:36:07,060
If we think that's a good idea.

524
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,580
I suspect that that is it's just in the language of the past hearing, but it's not weirdly written. I think that that is probably

525
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:15,560
just referencing.

526
00:36:16,610 --> 00:36:17,970
That we're talking about.

527
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:22,120
In the business item, having a resolution to amend the fee schedule.

528
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,520
OK. Does that mean that?

529
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,520
You're going to null and void the last month of everyone's.

530
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,280
So the thought behind this so as our code.

531
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,520
Currently states.

532
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,010
So tomorrow morning.

533
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,520
If we don't act.

534
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,440
So we kind of got behind the 8 ball on this.

535
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Utility bills go out tomorrow morning, April 1st.

536
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,440
Right Wednesday, Thursday. Thursday.

537
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:53,040
So how how the code currently sits is and if we wanted to reduce that, if we just if I just wanted to say OK.

538
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:53,970
Listen when we need.

539
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,280
Throttle this down to a dollar a door.

540
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,520
Right. Currently that leverage, I can't pull that lever, so we have to come in here. So we kind of earned this little boondoggle

541
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,640
of the situation where it's.

542
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,480
Where?

543
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,920
The intent is.

544
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:13,440
Obviously not to chase off our businesses, right? And I'm concerned if this goes much further.

545
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,800
The it's it's getting pretty ugly.

546
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,160
For a lot of companies out there.

547
00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:23,130
So this would allow us.

548
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,320
To do that, I'm sorry. Go ahead if this resolution passes.

549
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:32,960
That that goes away, correct the the bills. There's no need then for any other additional power to lower fees.

550
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,240
That's not required. So do you want me to address this resolution? Sure, please. So.

551
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,600
As we were unpacking all the.

552
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,440
Fun of the tough.

553
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,480
We also.

554
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,440
Were finding frustrations.

555
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,720
With trying to.

556
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,360
Established fees for Vineyard days.

557
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:53,570
Because.

558
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,080
And you know.

559
00:37:55,850 --> 00:38:00,130
We wanted the ability to say, OK, well, maybe we'd.

560
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,440
Don't want to charge? Let's say a particular like.

561
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,600
And city.

562
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,330
Recognized nonprofit like the Heritage Foundation, maybe we don't want to charge them for.

563
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,240
Parade entry.

564
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,080
We wouldn't have the option to not charge them.

565
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,520
Under the fee schedule.

566
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,080
Because the fee schedule is set.

567
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,600
So. So it gave us no flexibility.

568
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,120
And the mayor had no power to adjust the fee schedule. And so we thought, well.

569
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,440
This may be the fee schedule.

570
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,320
Can be the maximum.

571
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,450
The city can charge for fees.

572
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,640
And then we.

573
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:42,480
The mayor was given the authority to be able to make.

574
00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:46,610
Adjustments downwards that would.

575
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:47,640
Be appropriate.

576
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,240
Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah.

577
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:52,760
Yeah, that makes sense. I would just.

578
00:38:53,490 --> 00:38:56,050
Want to disagree with that approach and.

579
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Keep it as.

580
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,520
Either the Council creates a policy.

581
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,010
Where we identify exactly what will.

582
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,360
Consider lowering fees for.

583
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,400
Just so that the mayor doesn't.

584
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,680
I mean if we if we in theory.

585
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,280
Just told the mayor you can lower fees as much as you want. Everybody's going to be banging down his door.

586
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Saying to lower his fees.

587
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,800
Rather than kind of bringing it to a public process and.

588
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Saying that this is.

589
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,770
A decision of the.

590
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,040
The whole to.

591
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,320
To reduce a fee in any given circumstance.

592
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,930
I think we we could easily create a policy that identifies, hey, what kind of operations do we want to?

593
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,360
Lower fees for but.

594
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,200
I would just have concerns with.

595
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,010
Not having that.

596
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,120
Come to the Council.

597
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,600
So there are already.

598
00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:44,770
Circumstances that are in current code.

599
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,850
Where the mayor can reduce fees.

600
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,840
And that's for fines.

601
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,120
Well, I think that's what Ezra is bringing up, is that we should just.

602
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,360
Write a policy in code that actually specifies when that can be done.

603
00:39:57,110 --> 00:39:59,170
Versus just giving him blanket authority.

604
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,520
OK. I think if our legal counsel were here, he would.

605
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,280
Advise us that once we give.

606
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,040
Away a power to the somebody it's impossible to get back correct.

607
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,440
I think he is here. Is he on the mic? He was on the call. He was not here.

608
00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:18,730
Carol, any other comments on this?

609
00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:22,300
Alrighty, I will.

610
00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:26,330
Entertain a motion to leave the public hearing.

611
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:28,220
So moved.

612
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:29,880
Do I have a second?

613
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,000
2nd.

614
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,080
All in favor.

615
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:32,400
Aye.

616
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,480
Awesome motion.

617
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,000
Passes. OK, let's jump down to 5 #5.

618
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:42,880
Mayor and council members disclosures and recusals. Do I have any?

619
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,640
Any disclosures?

620
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,600
So that is going to be that is.

621
00:40:50,270 --> 00:40:55,510
On that is 8.8 weight .1. It's on the back David.

622
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:57,790
8.1.

623
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:59,990
What's that awesome?

624
00:41:03,870 --> 00:41:06,190
OK. Any disclosures from the Council?

625
00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:10,430
OK, I made a joke.

626
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:14,810
Just so that everyone can be clued in on the joke, I told Jacob Hold away that he needs to disclose all the ways he is financially

627
00:41:14,810 --> 00:41:19,070
benefiting from 400 S right now.

628
00:41:19,590 --> 00:41:22,630
Yeah. So I'll take the time since the emails have been coming in.

629
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:28,440
I live at 392 hold away Hold Away road and I purchased my home.

630
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:32,070
Well, after the right of way was purchased.

631
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:33,470
And so.

632
00:41:34,190 --> 00:41:34,710
The uh.

633
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:42,550
I am not gaining financially either way on the road being widened or not widening and the.

634
00:41:42,830 --> 00:41:44,880
Right of way will stay the same.

635
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:47,590
And I believe in both plans, the traffic.

636
00:41:47,830 --> 00:41:53,230
Is not changed in both situations, the speed limit stays the same.

637
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:58,350
In both situations and the traffic and the bike lanes are still provided in.

638
00:41:58,590 --> 00:42:00,390
Both situations so.

639
00:42:01,750 --> 00:42:02,870
And it's kind of a.

640
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:04,430
Unfortunate. Umm.

641
00:42:05,590 --> 00:42:06,750
The property and.

642
00:42:06,830 --> 00:42:07,430
In uh.

643
00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:11,430
Affected is my father's property.

644
00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:17,710
And you know, my dad was the first to set up stand up for Wakara Way.

645
00:42:18,070 --> 00:42:21,270
And put forth a donation of 1/4 mile of.

646
00:42:22,070 --> 00:42:24,470
Easement to make that trail happen.

647
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:27,830
And I know it yet hasn't happened.

648
00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:34,310
But to be to get bombarded with emails that my dad is trying to profit off of this.

649
00:42:34,750 --> 00:42:35,710
There is.

650
00:42:35,830 --> 00:42:37,790
3 competing master plan.

651
00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:40,230
Projects that do not line up.

652
00:42:40,350 --> 00:42:42,070
For those that don't know, so.

653
00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:43,950
The east of my house.

654
00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:48,550
Where the Rileys and the Fernandez don't or not Fernandez?

655
00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:50,310
The.

656
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:52,990
Does not line up.

657
00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:53,670
With uh.

658
00:42:53,790 --> 00:42:54,950
My side of the road.

659
00:42:55,750 --> 00:43:01,590
And so having them line up with two completely different master plans is the purpose.

660
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:08,100
We do not own the right of way on my father's property as a city and when this came up in October and November I recused myself

661
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:13,680
from and there was no official vote, but if there would have been.

662
00:43:13,950 --> 00:43:16,470
To purchase that or not purchase that.

663
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:21,310
On that specific issue I would have recused myself, but it never got to.

664
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:23,670
Eminent domain.

665
00:43:24,030 --> 00:43:26,630
I can promise that if it does come to eminent domain.

666
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:29,030
That I wouldn't vote on that specific issue.

667
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:35,670
But I ran on making 400 N or 400 S safe and I would 100% vote.

668
00:43:36,420 --> 00:43:39,120
And I ran on that. So anyway, just.

669
00:43:39,310 --> 00:43:41,750
Full disclosure, I don't make any money on that so.

670
00:43:41,830 --> 00:43:42,590
Thank you, Jake.

671
00:43:42,990 --> 00:43:45,550
Any anyone else from council?

672
00:43:46,830 --> 00:43:50,590
OK, hearing none, we will move to the public comment.

673
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:52,310
Tony, did we get? Do you have the?

674
00:43:53,830 --> 00:43:54,950
Anyone like to?

675
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:57,110
Public comment.

676
00:43:57,350 --> 00:43:58,350
Participate in that.

677
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:59,750
Come on up, Daria.

678
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:12,220
Again, Daria Evans, Dulles Vineyard resident.

679
00:44:12,750 --> 00:44:14,510
I just want to.

680
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:17,350
Thank all the residents of Vineyard.

681
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:20,110
Who have participated in?

682
00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:22,910
The donations for the library.

683
00:44:23,110 --> 00:44:25,190
Getting into that $750?

684
00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:27,350
Raised amount.

685
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:30,070
To help the library, we have a great community.

686
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:31,870
And I'm just.

687
00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:33,870
Really thrilled we had those donations.

688
00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:39,560
I would like to speak about a couple of agenda items later.

689
00:44:39,870 --> 00:44:41,710
On resolution 26.

690
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:48,310
Dash 19 and also Operation Shield, if I have that opportunity. Thank you. Thanks, Daria. Thanks, Daria.

691
00:44:49,730 --> 00:44:51,240
We got David Pierce.

692
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:51,990
David.

693
00:44:54,930 --> 00:44:57,050
David Pierce from the Cascade neighborhood.

694
00:44:57,390 --> 00:44:59,470
Having participated in.

695
00:45:00,540 --> 00:45:02,760
That library fundraising event?

696
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:05,550
I gotta say it was wonderful.

697
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:08,590
To have the community come together like that.

698
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:11,510
Our house was one of the drop off point.

699
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:12,670
For donations.

700
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:14,550
And we were swamped.

701
00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:16,650
So it was.

702
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:18,230
It was wonderful.

703
00:45:18,310 --> 00:45:19,390
To be part of that.

704
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:22,350
I also have.

705
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:24,840
Some comment that I want to make.

706
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:25,550
On.

707
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:27,830
Resolutions that are coming up.

708
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:28,750
So.

709
00:45:31,350 --> 00:45:31,630
And I.

710
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:35,870
I just want to let you know that like.

711
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:40,950
I.

712
00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:48,670
I want to make a comment that I did if I can about please earlier.

713
00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:50,120
Issue.

714
00:45:50,270 --> 00:45:52,150
And that is the fee schedule.

715
00:45:52,430 --> 00:45:53,830
I agree with.

716
00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:55,130
With.

717
00:45:56,310 --> 00:45:58,470
Councilman Larae's comment.

718
00:45:58,670 --> 00:46:03,390
Once a legislative body gives up power and authority.

719
00:46:04,460 --> 00:46:06,480
It's difficult to get it back.

720
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:09,190
And when you give up authority?

721
00:46:10,290 --> 00:46:11,200
You give up.

722
00:46:11,710 --> 00:46:12,790
Our voice.

723
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:14,030
As citizens.

724
00:46:15,010 --> 00:46:16,840
So you shut us out.

725
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:18,230
Of that discussion.

726
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:20,150
That may deal with funding.

727
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:22,190
Taxes and fees.

728
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:23,270
Thank you.

729
00:46:23,630 --> 00:46:24,430
Thanks, David.

730
00:46:25,660 --> 00:46:26,260
OK.

731
00:46:27,390 --> 00:46:28,750
Seen no other public.

732
00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:30,630
Crystal, come on up.

733
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:32,150
Is anyone else?

734
00:46:33,790 --> 00:46:34,710
After crystal, OK.

735
00:46:35,630 --> 00:46:38,790
Crystal, price, Providence. I'm just wondering where we're at.

736
00:46:38,910 --> 00:46:41,150
On transferring the HOA.

737
00:46:41,790 --> 00:46:42,870
To the citizens.

738
00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:45,430
The water's.

739
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:49,390
It's been 8 years and I believe flagship is built out.

740
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,880
That's all.

741
00:46:52,730 --> 00:46:54,440
Thank you. Are we allowed to?

742
00:46:55,350 --> 00:46:57,230
Say, could we add that to a?

743
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:58,990
A few further.

744
00:46:59,710 --> 00:47:02,150
Agenda item that has come up so many times.

745
00:47:03,590 --> 00:47:06,350
The the state has just created an HOA.

746
00:47:06,430 --> 00:47:08,190
Protection Task Force.

747
00:47:08,590 --> 00:47:11,310
It's a new department that and like there are.

748
00:47:11,470 --> 00:47:12,510
So many drink.

749
00:47:13,110 --> 00:47:16,390
That at least 20-30 times that they say.

750
00:47:16,830 --> 00:47:17,870
In our.

751
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:23,150
Contract and maybe just direct our attorney to look into this base to describe it. Jesse, it's.

752
00:47:24,190 --> 00:47:27,030
Usually an HOA has some sort of percentage point.

753
00:47:27,150 --> 00:47:29,990
50%, Seventy percent, 80% built out.

754
00:47:30,270 --> 00:47:31,830
And what it's done is it's like.

755
00:47:32,030 --> 00:47:36,670
Daisy chained from one development to the next development and then they've had like 5 or 6.

756
00:47:36,990 --> 00:47:40,240
And obviously this is a private organization, but like.

757
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:45,470
It has yet to be turned over and I believe they've then connected it to Utah City like.

758
00:47:45,550 --> 00:47:48,590
It's one in the same now with Utah City and it's like.

759
00:47:49,070 --> 00:47:50,910
So just looking into that like.

760
00:47:51,230 --> 00:47:55,910
As a city, do we have legalities to get into that? Does the state, do we direct them to the state?

761
00:47:56,110 --> 00:47:56,910
And if so.

762
00:47:57,630 --> 00:47:58,670
Could we bring it to a?

763
00:47:59,470 --> 00:48:00,790
A future.

764
00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:03,990
Working session to get to the bottom of it.

765
00:48:04,110 --> 00:48:04,950
Sure.

766
00:48:05,070 --> 00:48:05,670
Legally, yeah.

767
00:48:05,710 --> 00:48:08,575
We're gonna comment as well. Jacob would. Yeah, I was just gonna say I received a lot of complaints as well, and I believe I'm

768
00:48:08,575 --> 00:48:11,440
referring to Water's Edge.

769
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:13,470
I think that it is built out so we.

770
00:48:15,150 --> 00:48:16,150
I support being on a.

771
00:48:16,510 --> 00:48:17,830
Would you take the assignment to?

772
00:48:18,030 --> 00:48:22,370
Reach out to Jesse and just get Yeah, well, since this is HOA, can we leave it with Jacob? Yeah, let's not. That's me, but sure,

773
00:48:22,370 --> 00:48:26,710
let's do that. We reach out to Jesse, kind of. Let's get to the.

774
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:30,990
Start digging into that So we'll start looking into it. That is the first time I've heard about it.

775
00:48:31,150 --> 00:48:34,590
I've heard plenty of 400 S issues right? Too much?

776
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:37,630
Thank you.

777
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:41,550
Yeah, OK, awesome. I just, you know, I say stupid things because if I say stupid things then I'll it won't be so stupid later when

778
00:48:41,550 --> 00:48:45,350
I learn from them.

779
00:48:46,780 --> 00:48:48,520
Could the residents?

780
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:52,990
Collect 75% signatures in their neighborhood to secede.

781
00:48:53,550 --> 00:48:54,470
From the HOA.

782
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,720
I'll second that.

783
00:49:01,350 --> 00:49:06,470
Do I have to call that to a vote since it's been David, I mean motion. It's just, you know, the question for legal, we need to

784
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:11,590
collect information from Mr. Riddle because.

785
00:49:11,710 --> 00:49:13,710
Right now as I understand it right the code.

786
00:49:13,830 --> 00:49:16,310
So it was a joke, but I mean, there's some logic behind it.

787
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:18,070
Our city code says if.

788
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:19,990
Citizens want to initiate.

789
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:22,790
Something for their neighborhood or their their.

790
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:24,070
Community.

791
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:26,160
That it needs to go to a 75%.

792
00:49:26,350 --> 00:49:30,470
Signatures for residents in that community and if you hit that threshold.

793
00:49:30,550 --> 00:49:32,750
Then the Council has a significant reason to.

794
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:38,670
Perform an action. Yeah. So I I don't know, I mean, I know there's the HOA protection law, but I would just be curious and.

795
00:49:38,910 --> 00:49:40,200
Can you actually?

796
00:49:41,530 --> 00:49:42,760
As a collective.

797
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:48,170
Leave the HOA, we'll have Jacob. I would just make a note of that. I would just say the property owners are private entities in

798
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:53,310
the HOA is a private entity, so.

799
00:49:53,550 --> 00:49:56,470
The only thing I believe that's given to us is the.

800
00:49:57,550 --> 00:49:59,150
The master agreement.

801
00:49:59,270 --> 00:50:01,270
When they did the planning and what?

802
00:50:01,350 --> 00:50:03,830
When it would be turned over, was told to the.

803
00:50:04,110 --> 00:50:05,070
City, right?

804
00:50:05,230 --> 00:50:08,710
So we could help those private entities with information.

805
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:10,040
Of what?

806
00:50:10,190 --> 00:50:14,750
What was promised during the city, But let's have our attorney look into, yeah.

807
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:16,430
Yeah. Thank you.

808
00:50:17,170 --> 00:50:19,240
OK, any other public comments?

809
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,760
All right, seeing none, we will move down to the work session.

810
00:50:23,310 --> 00:50:27,590
For the Easy park presentation and discussion, I'm going to turn this over to Jacob Wood.

811
00:50:28,030 --> 00:50:28,430
And uh.

812
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:34,090
Yes, I invited an easy part to come give a presentation. So as we've been many a choice, I've been looking to find a way to have

813
00:50:34,090 --> 00:50:38,990
enforcement.

814
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:46,110
But to make sure that enforcement isn't towing first or towing only. So this is a company I found.

815
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:52,750
Offers a more progressive form of enforcement. So I invited to come. They drove all the way down from Saint George I believe.

816
00:50:52,830 --> 00:50:53,230
And.

817
00:50:55,130 --> 00:50:56,240
Yeah, yes, I started.

818
00:50:56,350 --> 00:50:57,670
Thank you. Come on up, gentlemen.

819
00:50:57,870 --> 00:50:58,470
Thank you.

820
00:50:58,550 --> 00:50:59,230
Thank you.

821
00:50:59,830 --> 00:51:01,190
All righty. Thank you so much.

822
00:51:01,590 --> 00:51:04,550
Yeah, thanks for inviting us here. Yeah, like Jacob said.

823
00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:07,120
From Saint George, but we're working up here, so.

824
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:11,480
And just for a little bit of background, a little bit of history.

825
00:51:11,870 --> 00:51:13,070
I've worked up here for.

826
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:14,710
Years as far as my.

827
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:18,350
Background repossessions, impounds, PPI's.

828
00:51:18,510 --> 00:51:20,110
All the companies, all the tow truck.

829
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:21,630
Signs you have out there that's.

830
00:51:22,110 --> 00:51:24,070
That's what I did, but then I sold that when?

831
00:51:24,430 --> 00:51:25,830
We founded this.

832
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:28,270
Just a couple years ago.

833
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:29,230
So.

834
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:31,790
Just yeah, Dave Terry.

835
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:33,030
And I'm Cam Terry.

836
00:51:34,430 --> 00:51:35,310
So we just found a.

837
00:51:36,510 --> 00:51:38,030
Or tighten a lot more.

838
00:51:38,270 --> 00:51:42,830
Tech company you know to run this to enforce we can do everything that.

839
00:51:42,910 --> 00:51:46,310
My tow company used to do, but without taking people's cars.

840
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:47,870
And it's so much cheaper for him.

841
00:51:48,270 --> 00:51:49,630
And you can still.

842
00:51:49,870 --> 00:51:51,590
Provide compliance so.

843
00:51:54,310 --> 00:51:57,030
But like I said over the 25 years that I've had.

844
00:51:57,630 --> 00:51:59,670
With parking enforcement experience or.

845
00:51:59,830 --> 00:52:03,630
Our foundation that comes from understanding and sorry, we don't have this up there that.

846
00:52:05,310 --> 00:52:06,550
Since this was an apple.

847
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:10,800
The low connection was for a Mac, so we'll just kind of look at it and read through here.

848
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:11,830
But.

849
00:52:13,470 --> 00:52:15,150
Like I said, easy park it was.

850
00:52:15,310 --> 00:52:19,910
Accepted and founded in Saint George, but it's growing so fast now we're up in Oregon.

851
00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:23,710
Also met with the committee up in Rexburg with BYU.

852
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:28,750
And got that municipality going up there, so we can do everything from municipalities.

853
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:33,710
Private HOA's even working with the Larry H Miller Group, Wasatch Group.

854
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:37,590
So different types of properties from commercial down to residential.

855
00:52:38,380 --> 00:52:38,660
Yeah.

856
00:52:40,350 --> 00:52:40,830
So.

857
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:43,990
One of the one of the things that.

858
00:52:44,070 --> 00:52:45,830
Kind of sets us apart.

859
00:52:45,950 --> 00:52:46,710
Is.

860
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:48,910
Are innovative enforcement.

861
00:52:48,990 --> 00:52:52,470
So we have an all in one.

862
00:52:53,350 --> 00:52:55,110
Basically all inclusive.

863
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:57,470
Parking ecosystem.

864
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:58,470
So this.

865
00:52:58,590 --> 00:53:00,670
We have a license plate.

866
00:53:00,750 --> 00:53:06,790
Based enforcement system and and permit system. So there's no need for, no need for.

867
00:53:06,910 --> 00:53:07,910
Sticker permits.

868
00:53:08,030 --> 00:53:12,270
Or hang tag permits, we can do digital permits and then how we.

869
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:15,750
Cross reference that is with a license plate reading camera car.

870
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:17,070
And.

871
00:53:17,550 --> 00:53:18,990
We built this out.

872
00:53:19,070 --> 00:53:19,990
Because.

873
00:53:20,070 --> 00:53:26,950
With his background of 25 years in the towing industry, we realized that there's a lot of stress. There's a lot of.

874
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:29,670
Confrontation. There's a lot of friction.

875
00:53:29,950 --> 00:53:30,670
That.

876
00:53:30,750 --> 00:53:32,390
Is caused from towing.

877
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:35,350
And we're like, there's gotta be, there's gotta be a software approach.

878
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:36,550
A better approach?

879
00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:38,870
And a more acceptable approach.

880
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:40,230
And that's where we found.

881
00:53:41,110 --> 00:53:45,150
That's when we built out the license plate reading camera car and then we ticket.

882
00:53:45,230 --> 00:53:47,110
Or notices of noncompliance.

883
00:53:47,550 --> 00:53:50,070
And we issue those.

884
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:51,990
We have fixed cameras.

885
00:53:52,070 --> 00:53:56,070
That can be installed at like commercial entrances or commercial.

886
00:53:56,150 --> 00:54:00,160
Lots the entrances we can do mobile LPR on.

887
00:54:01,990 --> 00:54:02,390
Oh yeah.

888
00:54:05,010 --> 00:54:05,760
Let's see here.

889
00:54:06,350 --> 00:54:09,190
Look at Mr. it, you might be in luck.

890
00:54:11,890 --> 00:54:14,640
Let's see here allow this.

891
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:25,670
Let's see.

892
00:54:26,550 --> 00:54:27,030
What?

893
00:54:27,390 --> 00:54:28,590
What do I need to do now?

894
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:30,910
So I plugged it in. I allowed it.

895
00:54:31,110 --> 00:54:31,950
You haven't talked there.

896
00:54:35,310 --> 00:54:36,870
OK. And then that goes into this.

897
00:54:38,650 --> 00:54:40,050
Dongle to the dongle.

898
00:54:54,430 --> 00:54:55,470
Cross our fingers.

899
00:54:56,030 --> 00:54:56,590
Maybe.

900
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:14,590
It would have worked.

901
00:55:15,150 --> 00:55:16,390
And what if?

902
00:55:16,750 --> 00:55:18,910
OK, I downloaded that app to.

903
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:21,180
OK.

904
00:55:23,390 --> 00:55:23,510
Air.

905
00:55:25,830 --> 00:55:26,710
Oh, I see.

906
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:30,710
Let's see, let's try airplane.

907
00:55:31,230 --> 00:55:32,630
This won't this won't work OK.

908
00:55:38,690 --> 00:55:40,520
OK, screen mirroring.

909
00:55:44,260 --> 00:55:46,220
I'm on the. I'm on the guest Wi-Fi.

910
00:55:46,550 --> 00:55:47,390
Does that change?

911
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:48,840
What is the?

912
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:49,630
Wi-Fi the TV.

913
00:55:50,310 --> 00:55:51,550
Thread behind you on the wall here.

914
00:55:52,930 --> 00:55:54,480
OK, I'm on that one. Perfect.

915
00:55:55,070 --> 00:55:56,390
Should pull up them.

916
00:56:11,260 --> 00:56:12,940
Would this bring up the TV?

917
00:56:15,770 --> 00:56:19,760
OK. That's what we're trying to do. It's not pulling up.

918
00:56:25,310 --> 00:56:26,750
OK, yeah, let me get on that one.

919
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:32,670
OK, so it's Vineyard.

920
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:35,600
OK. And then?

921
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:39,710
4.

922
00:56:40,270 --> 00:56:41,230
05.

923
00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:43,250
77.

924
00:56:56,380 --> 00:56:57,000
There it is.

925
00:56:58,100 --> 00:56:59,020
So East.

926
00:57:00,110 --> 00:57:00,790
North.

927
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,960
It's trying it on the north.

928
00:57:20,790 --> 00:57:21,350
Oh, OK.

929
00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:24,190
8300.

930
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,720
There it is.

931
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:45,070
Hey, thank you. Thank you. Thanks for your help.

932
00:57:49,390 --> 00:57:50,230
Awesome.

933
00:57:50,790 --> 00:57:51,750
OK, so.

934
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:56,550
So yeah, we talked about the.

935
00:57:57,390 --> 00:58:00,190
The license plate reading or the license plate recognition?

936
00:58:00,550 --> 00:58:02,320
And we can do that mobile.

937
00:58:02,430 --> 00:58:04,630
Which I think mobile makes most sense for.

938
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:09,750
For Vineyard and we kind of drove around and saw some of the locations that we discussed with Jacob and.

939
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:13,120
And so mobile would probably make the most sense.

940
00:58:13,470 --> 00:58:18,110
We do. That is, we just have these cameras on this car and it'd be going around and checking.

941
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:22,840
The streets checking the private parking lots or the public parking lots, making sure that people.

942
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:24,150
Have have their permits.

943
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:25,710
And so.

944
00:58:25,790 --> 00:58:27,240
With this approach.

945
00:58:27,350 --> 00:58:28,440
We didn't remove.

946
00:58:28,590 --> 00:58:30,430
Boots on the ground, we upgraded them.

947
00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:35,190
Easy Park replaced outdated tow truck enforcement with mobile LPR camera vehicles.

948
00:58:35,550 --> 00:58:39,310
Creating a smarter automated system. The result is a win, win, win.

949
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:44,670
Less frustration for residents, better oversight for property managers or city members.

950
00:58:44,990 --> 00:58:46,830
And more efficient consist.

951
00:58:47,150 --> 00:58:48,030
Enforcement.

952
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:52,270
Our system drives higher compliance with a more organized and modern approach.

953
00:58:52,910 --> 00:58:55,190
So and just for a little update on the enforcement.

954
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:57,150
A lot of our neighboring states.

955
00:58:57,230 --> 00:58:58,270
Where we're busy too.

956
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:59,270
Is.

957
00:58:59,350 --> 00:59:02,830
They're changing the law. So like, we've all seen it here in Utah, where?

958
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:05,110
Tow trucks can drive around on patrol.

959
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:06,750
And then they see a violation.

960
00:59:06,910 --> 00:59:07,790
And they take it.

961
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:11,350
The states are doing away with that, so that's why we're getting so busy and.

962
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:13,470
In Colorado and Oregon.

963
00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:17,190
Because you need a third party company like Easy Park. We come in.

964
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:19,950
And you have to verify it and then dispatch the toe.

965
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:23,350
And I don't know if Utah will go that way, but our neighboring states.

966
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:27,750
Are which it makes sense like just more eyes on it.

967
00:59:27,870 --> 00:59:30,750
So it maintains that we're the judge, you guys.

968
00:59:31,310 --> 00:59:36,430
Then it comes to us as a city to approve if it can or cannot be towed to dispatch it, is what you're saying.

969
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:41,430
It would fall but that way there's a still this has to come from another company I see instead of 1 tow truck driver saying I'm

970
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:45,350
gonna take.

971
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:46,710
Right. OK, that makes sense.

972
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:48,710
Yeah, so this is our car.

973
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:50,150
This is the.

974
00:59:50,350 --> 00:59:54,350
So there's the car on the left and a zoomed in picture on the right of the camera.

975
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:55,710
And so.

976
00:59:55,990 --> 01:00:00,430
It's just a normal little Nissan and where you can just we can build it out with our technology and.

977
01:00:00,510 --> 01:00:01,190
And it works.

978
01:00:03,630 --> 01:00:06,310
This is all a better approach to parking.

979
01:00:06,550 --> 01:00:09,870
We believe parking should be simple, fair and efficient for everyone.

980
01:00:10,830 --> 01:00:12,070
Traditional parking.

981
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:16,270
Enforcement has long relied on reactive, labor intensive methods like towing.

982
01:00:16,350 --> 01:00:20,550
This often leads to frustration and consistency and negative interactions with the public.

983
01:00:20,830 --> 01:00:26,790
With our Win Win Win program, we solved a constant headaches of towing and create organization for the roads and streets. This

984
01:00:26,790 --> 01:00:32,750
organization provides open parking for those who need to park and a cheaper, safer option to those who violate the rules.

985
01:00:33,730 --> 01:00:34,330
And then?

986
01:00:34,430 --> 01:00:35,470
On the right.

987
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:36,790
There there's.

988
01:00:37,110 --> 01:00:38,070
Little picture of.

989
01:00:38,190 --> 01:00:38,790
What?

990
01:00:39,230 --> 01:00:40,870
The permit kind of looks like.

991
01:00:41,070 --> 01:00:42,230
And we do have a.

992
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:44,230
A demo we actually built out.

993
01:00:44,910 --> 01:00:51,430
The vineyard area with some of the properties that we've been talking about and so we can show you that how.

994
01:00:51,550 --> 01:00:55,880
That looks on a map. There's little pins pins everywhere of the properties that could.

995
01:00:56,030 --> 01:00:58,630
Have the permits or for people to reserve parking.

996
01:01:00,570 --> 01:01:04,840
OK, why this works? Why Easy Park leads the industry in parking enforcement.

997
01:01:05,150 --> 01:01:08,110
Because it reduces friction and improves experience.

998
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:12,230
With the license plate based enforcement, it removes the need for physical permits.

999
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:13,940
And eliminates confrontation.

1000
01:01:14,340 --> 01:01:17,540
This creates A smoother, more user friendly experience.

1001
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:20,980
Kinda like how you mentioned we did this, you know, with the city up there in Rexburg.

1002
01:01:21,140 --> 01:01:22,140
For years.

1003
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:23,700
BYU students.

1004
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:27,180
Even citizens to park on the road, they had to go into the.

1005
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:30,740
Mayor's office and there'd be a long line and they'd have to get physical permits.

1006
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:32,020
So they loved this.

1007
01:01:32,580 --> 01:01:33,990
They don't even have to deal with that anymore.

1008
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:40,670
Drives compliance without aggression and structured progressive enforcement model encourages voluntary compliance.

1009
01:01:40,820 --> 01:01:44,380
First, leading to fewer violations and repeat offenses.

1010
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:47,380
It ensures transparency and accountability.

1011
01:01:47,820 --> 01:01:50,940
All activity is digitally recorded and reportable.

1012
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:55,260
Giving cities and property owners full insight into operations.

1013
01:01:55,620 --> 01:01:57,700
So it really is a true win, win, win.

1014
01:01:58,220 --> 01:02:01,380
Residents win. That's less stress. Clear rules.

1015
01:02:01,820 --> 01:02:08,420
Cities when property owners better control an organization enforcement greater efficiency, fewer conflicts.

1016
01:02:10,550 --> 01:02:12,590
So the the whole system.

1017
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:14,380
Is designed and built.

1018
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:15,420
To scale.

1019
01:02:15,740 --> 01:02:16,220
So.

1020
01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:18,540
As Vineyard grows.

1021
01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:19,500
The uh.

1022
01:02:19,700 --> 01:02:24,980
Parking demand is going to is going to rise, it's going to increase and I'm sure you guys have already kind of felt that already.

1023
01:02:25,060 --> 01:02:26,900
As vineyard is is very dense.

1024
01:02:27,220 --> 01:02:28,220
And so that.

1025
01:02:28,300 --> 01:02:29,900
That demand as it drives.

1026
01:02:29,980 --> 01:02:32,060
Higher we can.

1027
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:33,860
We can scale with that.

1028
01:02:34,220 --> 01:02:35,180
And so.

1029
01:02:36,140 --> 01:02:38,260
This we.

1030
01:02:38,420 --> 01:02:40,420
Our easy park we can manage public.

1031
01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:41,740
And private properties.

1032
01:02:41,860 --> 01:02:43,140
Under 1 system that is.

1033
01:02:43,420 --> 01:02:44,870
That is the beautiful thing about.

1034
01:02:45,420 --> 01:02:46,100
Easy Park.

1035
01:02:46,180 --> 01:02:48,660
With being a complete parking ecosystem.

1036
01:02:48,820 --> 01:02:51,140
From you, You're not going to have vendors.

1037
01:02:51,420 --> 01:02:52,310
Having.

1038
01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:54,140
Digital permits.

1039
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:55,300
And that's all they.

1040
01:02:55,420 --> 01:03:01,580
Do and enforcement and that's all they do. We are a complete package and we can do public and private.

1041
01:03:03,780 --> 01:03:05,740
We standardize enforcement.

1042
01:03:06,140 --> 01:03:06,900
So.

1043
01:03:07,060 --> 01:03:10,080
Enforcement will all be the same from public and private Signage is going to be the same and we actually brought some signage

1044
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,100
examples.

1045
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:16,350
Some different sizes.

1046
01:03:16,940 --> 01:03:18,940
And we pay for the signs and we install them.

1047
01:03:20,020 --> 01:03:23,100
Yeah. So our team will do that and.

1048
01:03:23,460 --> 01:03:27,860
Depending on where it's at, you know, it might not say pay for parking, might just say register for parking. We.

1049
01:03:27,940 --> 01:03:28,860
We build the signs.

1050
01:03:28,980 --> 01:03:30,260
How you guys want?

1051
01:03:30,780 --> 01:03:31,700
And so that is.

1052
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:33,140
Kind of depends on.

1053
01:03:33,220 --> 01:03:34,660
What the signs are for?

1054
01:03:35,300 --> 01:03:38,140
But then the compliance across all zones.

1055
01:03:38,460 --> 01:03:40,020
So we can, we can zone out.

1056
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:43,980
Different, different areas of Vineyard. So we might have zone A.

1057
01:03:44,540 --> 01:03:46,180
Be, say, the vine.

1058
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:47,020
Or.

1059
01:03:47,660 --> 01:03:50,100
Zone B is and we can.

1060
01:03:50,180 --> 01:03:51,900
Name the zones, just whatever they.

1061
01:03:51,980 --> 01:03:55,060
The complexes are the preserve the.

1062
01:03:55,220 --> 01:03:56,180
Alloy. Umm.

1063
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:57,220
However that looks.

1064
01:03:57,300 --> 01:03:59,020
Will make it so that.

1065
01:03:59,140 --> 01:04:00,020
People can.

1066
01:04:00,500 --> 01:04:01,100
Choose.

1067
01:04:01,180 --> 01:04:04,700
Choose the alloy, say and purchase their permit there or.

1068
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:06,470
Get their permit if they're not purchasing it, yeah.

1069
01:04:07,340 --> 01:04:11,460
Provide centralized reporting and management for the city leadership. So you guys will have.

1070
01:04:11,540 --> 01:04:14,660
Full transparency to see everything and as.

1071
01:04:14,940 --> 01:04:21,460
As the city expands and parking demands increase, Easy Park ensures that systems remain consistent, efficient and easy to manage.

1072
01:04:22,980 --> 01:04:25,260
And along with that, when I first met Jacob.

1073
01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:27,380
I was up here 2 weeks ago.

1074
01:04:27,860 --> 01:04:29,020
And with K&R?

1075
01:04:29,460 --> 01:04:34,110
Their property management company, we do a lot of their properties in Saint George. They've been asking us to get up into here.

1076
01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:37,780
So I was in his office and he wants to switch over the.

1077
01:04:37,860 --> 01:04:38,500
Water's edge.

1078
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,560
Lakefront, Lakefront, OK.

1079
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:45,020
And then he told me about.

1080
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:46,660
Come to talk to the city of Vineyard.

1081
01:04:47,060 --> 01:04:50,660
And then so while I was here, I went into a lot of the private big complexes.

1082
01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:53,940
And it really was like 95% of people.

1083
01:04:54,260 --> 01:04:56,900
Like can we do this and how soon can you get up here?

1084
01:04:57,140 --> 01:04:57,830
Because.

1085
01:04:57,940 --> 01:05:00,260
When you're when you're a manager on a complex.

1086
01:05:00,660 --> 01:05:01,700
Someone gets towed.

1087
01:05:01,820 --> 01:05:03,620
They're coming in the office and.

1088
01:05:03,740 --> 01:05:04,660
They're ticked off.

1089
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:05,740
So they.

1090
01:05:05,860 --> 01:05:06,900
They loved this.

1091
01:05:09,870 --> 01:05:11,430
Yeah, so we are.

1092
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:13,100
Or sorry, did you have some?

1093
01:05:13,220 --> 01:05:16,060
No, go ahead. OK. So more, more than a vendor.

1094
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:17,260
As easy.

1095
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:19,300
We will.

1096
01:05:19,420 --> 01:05:20,460
We are a true partner.

1097
01:05:20,540 --> 01:05:22,860
And as a true partner, we'd commit to.

1098
01:05:22,980 --> 01:05:27,540
Make parking easier to manage, easier to enforce, and easier to for the public to understand.

1099
01:05:27,860 --> 01:05:35,180
Do more than just provide enforcement. We'll take ownership of the entire parking ecosystem. Act as an extension of the city.

1100
01:05:35,340 --> 01:05:38,060
From implementation to daily operations.

1101
01:05:38,220 --> 01:05:41,230
To long term optimization we will work with integrity.

1102
01:05:41,340 --> 01:05:43,660
And a citizen first mentality.

1103
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,990
OK, So what this means for Vineyard?

1104
01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:55,300
And how we'll move forward in these different phases 1 unified system.

1105
01:05:55,580 --> 01:06:00,820
A single platform managing all parking environments, public roads, private streets, residential areas.

1106
01:06:00,940 --> 01:06:02,140
Commercial zones.

1107
01:06:02,380 --> 01:06:05,140
Eliminating fragmentation and confusion.

1108
01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:07,020
One accountable partner.

1109
01:06:07,380 --> 01:06:10,140
No juggling multiple vendors kind of, Cam talked about.

1110
01:06:10,260 --> 01:06:12,900
Or systems Easy Park provides clear ownership.

1111
01:06:13,260 --> 01:06:16,780
Consistent communication and full accountability across the entire city.

1112
01:06:17,580 --> 01:06:23,060
One streamlined solution, Standardized signage enforcement technology and reporting.

1113
01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:26,140
Creating a seamless experience for residents, visitors.

1114
01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:27,820
And city leadership alike.

1115
01:06:29,260 --> 01:06:31,420
And then as the implementation plan.

1116
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:32,860
Phase I.

1117
01:06:33,060 --> 01:06:36,420
And usually it's about a 3030 day implementation.

1118
01:06:37,420 --> 01:06:40,540
Project and so phase one is planning and setup.

1119
01:06:40,700 --> 01:06:44,860
So we'll identify the zones or different properties that you guys would like us to.

1120
01:06:44,980 --> 01:06:45,980
To patrol.

1121
01:06:46,380 --> 01:06:47,150
And.

1122
01:06:47,260 --> 01:06:47,900
And then?

1123
01:06:48,580 --> 01:06:50,740
Customized rules and enforcement strategy.

1124
01:06:50,860 --> 01:06:53,140
So if it's let me add to what the planning and setup.

1125
01:06:53,420 --> 01:06:55,420
Lot of the complexes will keep.

1126
01:06:55,580 --> 01:06:57,820
The current contract at the tow company.

1127
01:06:57,980 --> 01:07:02,540
Because whatever escalation system we set up, say like if it's two tickets first.

1128
01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:04,940
And a boot, then the tow company.

1129
01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:06,500
We have dispatched that tow.

1130
01:07:06,820 --> 01:07:10,740
So they can, you can keep those contracts, but all you do is call them and say hey.

1131
01:07:11,020 --> 01:07:13,420
We're only going to call you on the call in basis.

1132
01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:16,790
Yeah, no more petroleum for the tow truck.

1133
01:07:17,540 --> 01:07:23,900
So in phase one as well, we had customized the rules and enforcement strategy. The rules are going to look different for every.

1134
01:07:23,980 --> 01:07:28,940
Every property, some might be no street parking, some might be only permit, some might be fire lane and.

1135
01:07:29,260 --> 01:07:30,140
And handicap.

1136
01:07:30,220 --> 01:07:31,460
So however that looks.

1137
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:33,340
We'll build that.

1138
01:07:33,540 --> 01:07:35,060
And customize that for you.

1139
01:07:35,460 --> 01:07:36,380
Phase 2.

1140
01:07:36,460 --> 01:07:38,700
Installation. So we're going to have our sign.

1141
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:41,660
Signs printed and then.

1142
01:07:42,380 --> 01:07:43,140
Installed.

1143
01:07:43,260 --> 01:07:44,350
Through our signage.

1144
01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:50,100
Team and then system configuration. So what this looks like is geofencing every.

1145
01:07:50,380 --> 01:07:52,150
Every property and.

1146
01:07:52,260 --> 01:07:54,780
Coding the different rules, coding the different.

1147
01:07:55,580 --> 01:07:56,940
Permits and so.

1148
01:07:57,300 --> 01:08:01,140
There's a lot that goes in behind the scenes for the coding of the technology.

1149
01:08:01,220 --> 01:08:01,820
But uh.

1150
01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:08,620
It's a pretty quick process and then Phase 3 is go live, so we choose a date, say May 1st or June 1st.

1151
01:08:08,820 --> 01:08:11,620
Begin enforcement with a grace period so we might have a.

1152
01:08:11,980 --> 01:08:14,380
A week or two week where we give warnings.

1153
01:08:14,620 --> 01:08:19,020
And then public education and communication will build out materials for you guys.

1154
01:08:19,300 --> 01:08:20,260
And we can go.

1155
01:08:21,220 --> 01:08:24,140
And do whatever we need to do to help you.

1156
01:08:24,260 --> 01:08:27,620
The best that we can to just get the word out there that things are changing.

1157
01:08:28,260 --> 01:08:29,460
Because the last thing we.

1158
01:08:29,540 --> 01:08:32,100
We want is for the residents to be confused on.

1159
01:08:32,260 --> 01:08:35,340
Why? Why they got a ticket or why?

1160
01:08:35,580 --> 01:08:38,340
Why they now had to have a permit or however that looks.

1161
01:08:39,150 --> 01:08:43,550
Phase 4 optimization. Ongoing adjustments if necessary based on data.

1162
01:08:43,820 --> 01:08:46,100
Monthly reporting and performance reviews.

1163
01:08:46,260 --> 01:08:49,500
So we want to be very communicative with you guys.

1164
01:08:49,660 --> 01:08:51,260
Whether it be monthly, quarterly?

1165
01:08:51,340 --> 01:08:52,540
Or however that looks.

1166
01:08:52,660 --> 01:08:54,180
To to make sure.

1167
01:08:54,260 --> 01:08:59,060
We are always aligned with you and doing the things that you guys want and need.

1168
01:09:00,470 --> 01:09:02,230
And that's it. So.

1169
01:09:02,380 --> 01:09:04,300
We wanted just to prepare a little brief.

1170
01:09:04,780 --> 01:09:06,510
Overview Brief summary of.

1171
01:09:06,820 --> 01:09:08,350
The basics that we cover.

1172
01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:11,260
And then we wanted to just answer any questions that you guys have.

1173
01:09:11,860 --> 01:09:13,540
Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you.

1174
01:09:15,620 --> 01:09:17,380
Can you explain so?

1175
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:21,820
You're not for the public. This is not a towing company you guys dispatched to.

1176
01:09:22,260 --> 01:09:23,820
A company to do that enforcement.

1177
01:09:23,980 --> 01:09:24,540
Correct.

1178
01:09:24,620 --> 01:09:30,860
Yeah, but you do patrol with your vehicle to scan the license plate and if the license plate comes back, they don't have a permit

1179
01:09:30,860 --> 01:09:37,100
then they either they ticket first. Can you explain how much the ticket would cost?

1180
01:09:38,140 --> 01:09:42,340
Yeah. So the ticket on average is $100.

1181
01:09:42,980 --> 01:09:45,340
So it's 1/3 or 1/4 of the cost of a tow.

1182
01:09:45,820 --> 01:09:46,900
And so.

1183
01:09:46,980 --> 01:09:51,100
That's what all of our Saint George properties have in Oregon.

1184
01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:54,700
We we kind of average around 7075.

1185
01:09:54,820 --> 01:09:59,780
And so it kind of varies between 75 and 100 bucks. So a lot cheaper than a tow.

1186
01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:01,100
And then?

1187
01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:03,340
We can decide.

1188
01:10:03,460 --> 01:10:09,140
With you guys, how you'd like it, if it's a ticket, ticket, boot, or if it's four tickets or three tickets, then a boot.

1189
01:10:09,260 --> 01:10:09,900
And then a toe.

1190
01:10:10,340 --> 01:10:14,220
And the boot is $75. It's cheaper because it keeps our car there. The ticket is a little bit more expensive because they have the

1191
01:10:14,220 --> 01:10:18,100
freedom to be able to.

1192
01:10:18,220 --> 01:10:18,980
To leave.

1193
01:10:19,140 --> 01:10:19,820
And uh.

1194
01:10:19,900 --> 01:10:20,540
And so.

1195
01:10:20,900 --> 01:10:22,580
That's kind of where those prices.

1196
01:10:22,980 --> 01:10:23,900
Kind of come about.

1197
01:10:24,740 --> 01:10:25,820
So you guys?

1198
01:10:25,900 --> 01:10:30,540
Sorry, when you when you get, you know, I've got a question from Jesse Tips.

1199
01:10:30,940 --> 01:10:31,860
OK, there you go.

1200
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,350
Yeah, let's take Jesse's question right now.

1201
01:10:39,690 --> 01:10:44,670
Jesse's our city attorney. He's I was just wondering, do do you sell your data?

1202
01:10:45,380 --> 01:10:46,460
To third parties.

1203
01:10:46,860 --> 01:10:48,380
So for example if I.

1204
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:51,460
Live in Vineyard and you have my license plate information.

1205
01:10:51,780 --> 01:10:54,980
Are you selling that information? Is the picture?

1206
01:10:55,060 --> 01:10:58,100
I would ask a couple questions here, which is a no no when you're a lawyer.

1207
01:10:58,500 --> 01:10:59,100
But.

1208
01:10:59,260 --> 01:11:02,420
Do you take a picture of only the license plate or the back of the tire?

1209
01:11:02,580 --> 01:11:05,540
The back of the vehicle or the whole vehicle?

1210
01:11:05,900 --> 01:11:08,420
What? What is it limited to that you're you're?

1211
01:11:08,660 --> 01:11:11,260
Yeah. So we do not sell the data.

1212
01:11:11,660 --> 01:11:12,260
And.

1213
01:11:12,580 --> 01:11:15,580
The the enforcement pictures we require.

1214
01:11:15,980 --> 01:11:17,580
Our enforcement.

1215
01:11:17,860 --> 01:11:20,660
Officers to take a minimum of four pictures.

1216
01:11:20,780 --> 01:11:22,740
For legal evidence shall end.

1217
01:11:23,260 --> 01:11:26,980
To keep both us and you guys protected as far as like.

1218
01:11:27,260 --> 01:11:30,380
Them saying we damaged their car or something.

1219
01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:31,660
Along the lines of that.

1220
01:11:31,780 --> 01:11:35,140
And so we take a minimum of four pictures. Those are uploaded to.

1221
01:11:35,340 --> 01:11:35,740
The.

1222
01:11:36,420 --> 01:11:37,740
The dashboard.

1223
01:11:37,860 --> 01:11:39,580
And then you guys can see it. We can see it.

1224
01:11:39,740 --> 01:11:43,220
Everyone can see if there's ever a question about it, but what are the pictures?

1225
01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:46,060
Is it a picture of? I would assume 4.

1226
01:11:46,180 --> 01:11:52,700
License plate. A picture of the car parked illegally from the front side. Rear. Exactly so So yeah. License plate.

1227
01:11:52,780 --> 01:11:55,100
And then try and get all the different angles so that.

1228
01:11:55,300 --> 01:11:56,500
We're we're covered on.

1229
01:11:56,620 --> 01:11:57,460
On all angles.

1230
01:11:59,590 --> 01:12:02,790
And so did I understand correctly you do not sell your data.

1231
01:12:02,860 --> 01:12:03,460
Correct.

1232
01:12:04,620 --> 01:12:05,630
OK. Thank you.

1233
01:12:05,860 --> 01:12:09,390
Yep. Can I ask how you make money?

1234
01:12:09,820 --> 01:12:10,460
Yeah.

1235
01:12:10,660 --> 01:12:11,140
Yep.

1236
01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:14,740
We make we make money on on the permits.

1237
01:12:14,820 --> 01:12:16,100
So how?

1238
01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:18,220
We so we talked to Jake.

1239
01:12:18,620 --> 01:12:22,940
About this, so we normally charge around $10 a permit that covers all the management is that for permit per month or per year,

1240
01:12:22,940 --> 01:12:27,260
per, per month, so.

1241
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:28,740
With with Vineyard.

1242
01:12:28,820 --> 01:12:31,220
We discussed with all of our business partners and said well.

1243
01:12:31,340 --> 01:12:33,990
We'll drop that down to $5.00 because.

1244
01:12:34,220 --> 01:12:35,380
Because of the volume.

1245
01:12:35,740 --> 01:12:39,060
So let me pause it this and maybe just collect your feedback.

1246
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:43,110
We talked about 3 or 4 different other.

1247
01:12:43,380 --> 01:12:46,900
Companies besides Easy Park over the course of the last week, sure.

1248
01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:47,700
And.

1249
01:12:48,060 --> 01:12:49,510
Those companies that.

1250
01:12:49,620 --> 01:12:51,980
Typical pricing model was something like.

1251
01:12:52,460 --> 01:12:54,540
10 to $60.00.

1252
01:12:54,780 --> 01:12:56,060
Per household.

1253
01:12:56,460 --> 01:12:57,380
Per year.

1254
01:12:57,780 --> 01:12:59,380
And then they make money on the toe.

1255
01:12:59,700 --> 01:13:00,660
Now you guys aren't?

1256
01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:02,900
Obviously doing the toe, you're not making money on the toe.

1257
01:13:04,820 --> 01:13:05,620
But then you're.

1258
01:13:06,020 --> 01:13:09,700
Like one of the conversations that we're having is we want these to be citizen.

1259
01:13:09,780 --> 01:13:11,020
Initiated.

1260
01:13:11,380 --> 01:13:12,980
And driven, you know.

1261
01:13:13,060 --> 01:13:14,060
Discussions.

1262
01:13:15,420 --> 01:13:17,510
Because we don't want to make a decision that.

1263
01:13:17,620 --> 01:13:21,590
Puts a financial burden on a bunch of residents unnecessarily.

1264
01:13:21,700 --> 01:13:24,820
So I guess my question is.

1265
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:30,670
When some of these neighborhoods, if they choose to proceed with parking enforcement, are you willing to?

1266
01:13:30,780 --> 01:13:31,420
Maybe.

1267
01:13:31,620 --> 01:13:35,140
I guess just so they have the information but get competitive with the pricing.

1268
01:13:35,860 --> 01:13:39,800
Are you making money on the tickets outside of the permits or just the permits? Who? Who funds on the tickets? Yeah, yeah, we'll

1269
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,740
make money on the tickets too. And then if it required a boot.

1270
01:13:44,060 --> 01:13:47,180
And you make money on the booth. So my and I guess my theory or I'm just sharing the information to share the information we're on

1271
01:13:47,180 --> 01:13:50,300
the public here.

1272
01:13:51,620 --> 01:13:53,420
If you're doing $10 per.

1273
01:13:54,380 --> 01:13:55,900
Pass per month.

1274
01:13:56,830 --> 01:13:58,590
Right, you have a minimum of.

1275
01:13:58,740 --> 01:13:59,820
A double.

1276
01:14:00,220 --> 01:14:03,660
The multiple of what one of some of these other companies were looking at on the upfront cost. So that's probably a pretty big

1277
01:14:03,660 --> 01:14:07,100
deterrent when it comes to people choosing to use you.

1278
01:14:07,420 --> 01:14:12,780
But additionally, we were talking about, for example, Lecheme, not in Bridgeport, right? That's roughly 200 homes.

1279
01:14:13,060 --> 01:14:16,430
And out of those 200 homes, that would be $2000 a year.

1280
01:14:17,460 --> 01:14:21,500
To get the coverage in those areas and then those companies make their money on the actual toes.

1281
01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:23,420
You're talking about.

1282
01:14:23,780 --> 01:14:27,500
You know $10 per pass if you have 4 passes per.

1283
01:14:27,620 --> 01:14:30,230
House. I mean, that's the code essentially.

1284
01:14:31,340 --> 01:14:35,410
I mean, it's just it seems almost exorbitant to me now. I don't have a dog in the fights. And so I'm not trying to shoot you guys

1285
01:14:35,410 --> 01:14:39,480
down on that. I just want you to know, yeah, these are the conversations that people are having and you're not in the ballpark

1286
01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:43,550
when it comes to the upfront fee.

1287
01:14:43,660 --> 01:14:45,500
Yeah. So it would be $5.

1288
01:14:45,580 --> 01:14:47,630
It'd be $5 a month and.

1289
01:14:47,780 --> 01:14:48,700
That pass.

1290
01:14:48,820 --> 01:14:50,900
Can have as many cars as.

1291
01:14:50,980 --> 01:14:57,500
As it as it needs. Gotcha. So it's not actually per car, correct. OK. You're doing the pass per household then yes, Yeah, you

1292
01:14:57,500 --> 01:15:04,020
could do yeah. So 4 Max 5 Max. So if we're doing an apartment complex, an apartment.

1293
01:15:04,260 --> 01:15:05,620
Say a 101.

1294
01:15:05,740 --> 01:15:06,540
Has.

1295
01:15:06,660 --> 01:15:09,060
3 bedrooms and you guys want a three CarMax?

1296
01:15:09,220 --> 01:15:09,940
We can set that.

1297
01:15:10,060 --> 01:15:11,660
Set that permit to three.

1298
01:15:11,980 --> 01:15:13,940
And so everyone in that household.

1299
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:16,980
Can can be on that permit for $5.00 a month.

1300
01:15:17,220 --> 01:15:18,660
Now how do you do tailored?

1301
01:15:19,380 --> 01:15:20,300
For example.

1302
01:15:20,340 --> 01:15:24,900
One of the things that was concerning to the Council as a whole, I think last week when we were talking about it, was.

1303
01:15:25,660 --> 01:15:27,580
The larger families, right? It's Utah.

1304
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:29,420
We got some big families in Utah.

1305
01:15:30,420 --> 01:15:35,260
If you have, you know, three teenage drivers plus mom and pop and you've got 5 cars, do you make?

1306
01:15:35,620 --> 01:15:39,300
A specialized, you know, does the council have to make a request to you? Is that something that a resident can send a notice and

1307
01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:42,980
say, hey, we need a fifth pass?

1308
01:15:43,060 --> 01:15:44,580
How does that process work for you?

1309
01:15:44,780 --> 01:15:48,320
Yeah, Yeah, we can. We can do it however you would like. If you would like the request to come to us, we can handle it if you'd

1310
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,860
like it to work through you.

1311
01:15:51,980 --> 01:15:53,870
Then we can set it up that way.

1312
01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:56,020
So then, yeah, we can.

1313
01:15:56,220 --> 01:15:57,620
We can allocate 5.

1314
01:15:57,700 --> 01:16:00,020
To that household and.

1315
01:16:00,140 --> 01:16:01,620
And so that's not that's not a huge deal.

1316
01:16:02,420 --> 01:16:05,920
So like on properties like big apartment complexes, that's usually goes to the manager. So if it's different with this, then yeah,

1317
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,420
it can come to us.

1318
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:13,110
In my theory, and and this is just sharing where I'm at for everybody.

1319
01:16:13,420 --> 01:16:16,540
Would be that we run that kind of stuff through the code enforcement and the code enforcement officer gets developed and you

1320
01:16:16,540 --> 01:16:19,660
agreed you guys can do that, right?

1321
01:16:19,820 --> 01:16:22,980
Work with code enforcement? Yeah, absolutely. So that you can work that. The code enforcement would be the one that triggers the

1322
01:16:22,980 --> 01:16:26,140
toe.

1323
01:16:27,090 --> 01:16:28,370
Say it. Repeat that.

1324
01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:32,900
You can be the, you can set it up so that the code enforcement officer is the one that triggers the Boo or toe. Yeah, yeah, not

1325
01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:37,300
you.

1326
01:16:37,740 --> 01:16:47,020
Self defeating in your app through your app, right, But the decision like the adjudicator is the government entity, yeah.

1327
01:16:47,260 --> 01:16:52,020
For huge, yeah, I'm pulling down so much that I mean in the complex, well, because they'll look at it and say, hey, this is a

1328
01:16:52,020 --> 01:16:56,780
mistake here, this is a mistake here, hey, we're going to do it. And they get to know the community you guys probably wouldn't get

1329
01:16:56,780 --> 01:17:01,540
to know.

1330
01:17:01,980 --> 01:17:03,460
Yeah, community as well as.

1331
01:17:03,580 --> 01:17:06,580
The code enforcement officer was sure just because we're in the work session. My argument against that though, would be that then

1332
01:17:06,580 --> 01:17:09,580
you're.

1333
01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:12,150
You're doing the job twice.

1334
01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:15,300
So you're paying the code enforcement and you're paying.

1335
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:16,340
Easy Park.

1336
01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:19,540
For the adjudication when it really only takes 1.

1337
01:17:19,660 --> 01:17:25,980
Is is that on an app though? Is that like on a phone that they would log into and see the evidence or see the?

1338
01:17:26,060 --> 01:17:30,980
That he could see the code enforcement. You see the. Yeah. So you see the one explained the dashboard. You guys said you have a

1339
01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:35,900
dashboard. People can like a dashboard where they can see. And he said we would have access. So I mean, it would just stand to

1340
01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:40,820
reason you could send that to the code enforcement as well. Sure. Yeah. So we can build that dashboard too.

1341
01:17:40,940 --> 01:17:43,620
To however, works best for Vineyard.

1342
01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:45,900
So. So yeah, if we want to.

1343
01:17:45,980 --> 01:17:48,700
Make a system where a code enforcer can just put in.

1344
01:17:48,820 --> 01:17:53,020
Into a section. Hey, license plate ABC123 isn't supposed to be here.

1345
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:55,420
It can automatically dispatch our driver.

1346
01:17:55,540 --> 01:17:56,820
To go over and place a ticket.

1347
01:17:57,100 --> 01:17:57,780
Or.

1348
01:17:57,860 --> 01:18:02,260
Or we can give certain code enforcers the tools to be able to just do it themselves.

1349
01:18:05,420 --> 01:18:13,300
Some mayor When the presentation is done, there's a comment from the back. Yeah. Anything else from council? Let's.

1350
01:18:13,740 --> 01:18:17,180
One more quick question. We have a lot of different neighborhoods.

1351
01:18:17,420 --> 01:18:21,360
Does it have to be all or one, or could we meet with individual neighborhoods and say they're ready, They're ready, They're sure?

1352
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,300
Yeah, we have a lot of neighborhoods that don't need it.

1353
01:18:27,820 --> 01:18:28,940
Yeah.

1354
01:18:29,540 --> 01:18:31,420
Fantastic, yeah.

1355
01:18:31,780 --> 01:18:33,460
Because see our system even.

1356
01:18:33,580 --> 01:18:34,420
If they.

1357
01:18:34,540 --> 01:18:37,340
If the apartment complex is going to make money on the permit.

1358
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:42,260
NCR system even does that and then because most apartment complexes charge.

1359
01:18:42,780 --> 01:18:46,380
Around 50 I'd say average a month on a on a permit but.

1360
01:18:46,580 --> 01:18:48,460
They're making that revenue OK.

1361
01:18:49,660 --> 01:18:50,580
Councilman there.

1362
01:18:51,500 --> 01:18:53,700
What do you do when people don't pay the tickets?

1363
01:18:54,140 --> 01:18:56,500
We assume 30 to 40% pay.

1364
01:18:57,020 --> 01:18:58,300
So we just eat the cost.

1365
01:18:58,620 --> 01:19:00,340
On the other 60%?

1366
01:19:02,780 --> 01:19:03,380
OK, it's.

1367
01:19:03,580 --> 01:19:05,340
OK, sorry this is just been.

1368
01:19:05,460 --> 01:19:06,340
The back and forth.

1369
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:07,860
That we've had for the last.

1370
01:19:07,940 --> 01:19:09,180
Two months? Sure.

1371
01:19:09,380 --> 01:19:09,820
If.

1372
01:19:11,460 --> 01:19:11,980
E ticket me.

1373
01:19:12,420 --> 01:19:14,190
Can you give me the citation? 100 bucks?

1374
01:19:14,380 --> 01:19:15,300
And I say.

1375
01:19:15,740 --> 01:19:22,100
Not going to pay that. I mean it's on the public record now that you are assuming that 60% of people are going to pay.

1376
01:19:22,220 --> 01:19:24,100
Yeah, so now we just choose to not pay.

1377
01:19:24,620 --> 01:19:27,620
Parker, don't say that out loud. Don't say that. They already said it.

1378
01:19:28,220 --> 01:19:30,260
Now I guess the question is.

1379
01:19:30,620 --> 01:19:35,020
The escalation policies than what actually puts teeth behind that, is that correct?

1380
01:19:37,070 --> 01:19:42,210
Because it's just like any bill. I mean, if they don't pay, it keeps going on, it's going to go to collections. I do have a

1381
01:19:42,210 --> 01:19:47,350
question. So if they don't pay the ticket and then you boot the second violation, do they have to pay the ticket and boot?

1382
01:19:47,740 --> 01:19:48,660
Or they just pay the bill.

1383
01:19:49,220 --> 01:19:50,740
We normally just charge the boot.

1384
01:19:51,420 --> 01:19:53,220
Yeah. So it doesn't stack on, yeah.

1385
01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:57,100
I don't argue you should stack it on and and we can.

1386
01:19:57,260 --> 01:20:00,340
We need to look more into that. We haven't looked too close. We.

1387
01:20:00,460 --> 01:20:03,740
Honestly, we've been a little hesitant on that because sure.

1388
01:20:03,980 --> 01:20:04,820
We don't want to.

1389
01:20:04,980 --> 01:20:06,350
We don't want to cross a line.

1390
01:20:06,460 --> 01:20:07,420
You know, and so.

1391
01:20:07,540 --> 01:20:10,300
We in Texas, I know.

1392
01:20:10,500 --> 01:20:14,100
I know that's a strong thing to do that, but it can get aggressive because some people have $1000 of outstanding tickets before

1393
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:17,700
they get a boot.

1394
01:20:17,980 --> 01:20:18,700
So.

1395
01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:21,100
We've just been doing a boom.

1396
01:20:21,380 --> 01:20:23,460
Sure, Jacob, do you have a?

1397
01:20:24,060 --> 01:20:33,180
Could you come up to the microphone that be great and state your name for the microphone please Sir?

1398
01:20:33,620 --> 01:20:34,350
Yeah. Thank you.

1399
01:20:35,790 --> 01:20:42,670
I'm Jacob Schooley. I am in Lakefront and actually I'm on the HOA board for the lakefront townhomes and had some questions about.

1400
01:20:43,220 --> 01:20:44,620
Quite a few things actually. So.

1401
01:20:44,900 --> 01:20:50,353
One thing I was thinking for the escalation policy, is it customizable so to where like let's say somebody pays a ticket, the next

1402
01:20:50,353 --> 01:20:55,806
time they get another ticket. If they choose not to pay the ticket and then they violate again, then they get booted. And that

1403
01:20:55,806 --> 01:21:01,259
could serve as like motivation to pay the ticket the first time so that they're not late to work if they mess up again.

1404
01:21:02,490 --> 01:21:08,510
Yeah, OK. Because that I mean that could increase rates of paying the ticket and.

1405
01:21:08,580 --> 01:21:10,020
Would still, you know, teach a lesson?

1406
01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:11,660
Fix your past before you park.

1407
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:16,580
I also want to provide some context on the price situation, so.

1408
01:21:17,300 --> 01:21:21,300
Jacob, do you have numbers at the top of your head for how many households we have in lakefront?

1409
01:21:23,150 --> 01:21:26,590
I do not 600 something 91 I think.

1410
01:21:26,780 --> 01:21:31,500
691 units. 691 units. OK, so let's say we have 691 units.

1411
01:21:31,860 --> 01:21:34,220
And that's $10 a month per unit.

1412
01:21:35,850 --> 01:21:38,970
Then the total, let's say the lakefront offers different, right?

1413
01:21:39,730 --> 01:21:47,090
Take the discount bro, he already offered you five, $3455 a month, Jacob, isn't it $3?

1414
01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:51,010
Then they say $3. Yeah. Was that $3 a month or three dollars?

1415
01:21:51,370 --> 01:21:52,770
Bike for just to set it up.

1416
01:21:53,820 --> 01:21:57,220
That's so it'd be it'd be $5 a month, but that is.

1417
01:21:57,370 --> 01:21:59,330
That can be charged to the residents.

1418
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:01,680
So then the HOA.

1419
01:22:03,460 --> 01:22:06,880
I will say that the residents in Lakefront will be would be very against a monthly fee to be able to park in their neighborhood

1420
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,300
because in the past like.

1421
01:22:10,690 --> 01:22:14,610
That's something they haven't had to deal with and like the towing is annoying but.

1422
01:22:15,010 --> 01:22:19,850
Like nobody wanted to pay a monthly fee at least for the first pass. The second pass we charge 75 a year and that would cover the

1423
01:22:19,850 --> 01:22:24,690
second pass. But for the first pass, like to be able to park your first car in the neighborhood?

1424
01:22:25,850 --> 01:22:27,410
That's something that's.

1425
01:22:27,450 --> 01:22:29,260
That's something that will be a major sticking point.

1426
01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:32,050
Well, I I think tonight isn't about.

1427
01:22:32,130 --> 01:22:36,490
Forcing any neighborhood to do this, it's like this is such an incredible option.

1428
01:22:36,570 --> 01:22:40,260
That it's like we've researched something that people want and it's like.

1429
01:22:40,490 --> 01:22:44,650
We can go to the different neighborhoods and say, is this something that you guys want to do and.

1430
01:22:44,810 --> 01:22:47,010
Pulled that vote amongst each neighborhood.

1431
01:22:47,090 --> 01:22:47,690
You know.

1432
01:22:48,770 --> 01:22:51,650
Thank you. Thank you guys so much. Let's do this if you could.

1433
01:22:52,610 --> 01:22:55,530
Gentlemen, if you could send this presentation to Council.

1434
01:22:55,890 --> 01:23:00,190
And it it along. Do you have their phone number if they want to? If anyone from council wants to reach out directly, can we also

1435
01:23:00,190 --> 01:23:04,490
post it as part of the general notes?

1436
01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:12,160
Awesome. No, this has been super helpful. We sure appreciate that your conversation real quickly. I probably missed this. How do

1437
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:16,700
you get the license plates into the system?

1438
01:23:17,690 --> 01:23:20,170
Do people enter their own license plate information or do you?

1439
01:23:20,530 --> 01:23:21,210
How's that done?

1440
01:23:22,010 --> 01:23:23,010
So we have.

1441
01:23:23,090 --> 01:23:25,930
We have a few different ways that we can do this. The easiest way.

1442
01:23:26,050 --> 01:23:30,730
Would be that we we send out a link or we set up our whoops, sorry.

1443
01:23:30,970 --> 01:23:32,810
That we set up our signs that have the QR code.

1444
01:23:33,090 --> 01:23:39,610
And and then the residents can scan that and download their permit right then and there or click on the link from the e-mail.

1445
01:23:40,130 --> 01:23:42,250
Or from a flyer, however that looks.

1446
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:44,040
And then?

1447
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,590
They'll fill out the information, we can set it up to where there is. They had to put in an address and even apartment unit

1448
01:23:48,590 --> 01:23:51,980
number.

1449
01:23:52,090 --> 01:23:56,670
And that's how we can do the Max. So like one apartment might have 31, apartment might have one, it might be a studio. And and so

1450
01:23:56,670 --> 01:24:01,250
that's how we can do the Max. And so they'll fill it out.

1451
01:24:01,690 --> 01:24:02,290
Or.

1452
01:24:02,570 --> 01:24:06,410
We have done this for properties in the past. This would be a huge workload for us.

1453
01:24:07,090 --> 01:24:11,810
Which I should, I should maybe offer this, but I'm going to. But we can do it all ourselves.

1454
01:24:12,010 --> 01:24:13,810
And we can go around and.

1455
01:24:13,930 --> 01:24:15,450
We've door knocked in the past.

1456
01:24:15,610 --> 01:24:19,570
And gathered information that way. It's a lot slower process.

1457
01:24:19,650 --> 01:24:20,650
But we're willing.

1458
01:24:21,130 --> 01:24:25,850
I want to say that just so you know, we're willing to work with you on however.

1459
01:24:26,050 --> 01:24:29,090
We get that information. That's awesome. Thank you.

1460
01:24:29,170 --> 01:24:30,930
OK. Thank you, gentlemen.

1461
01:24:31,090 --> 01:24:33,820
For this event, super helpful. Was there other questions?

1462
01:24:33,970 --> 01:24:35,330
Yeah, I've got another one.

1463
01:24:35,610 --> 01:24:36,210
That's all right.

1464
01:24:36,690 --> 01:24:40,110
You did mention that you have a demo of the of the website and how it works for residents, like be able to switch license plates

1465
01:24:40,110 --> 01:24:43,530
and things like that. Okay.

1466
01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:48,557
That would be that would be something that be great to see because one I know one thing that we that a lot of residents are be

1467
01:24:48,557 --> 01:24:52,904
interested in is how easy it's going to be to switch between license plates and also what the policies are for if there's

1468
01:24:52,904 --> 01:24:57,251
technical difficulties that are not.

1469
01:24:57,410 --> 01:24:58,490
User related.

1470
01:24:59,530 --> 01:25:02,530
If it's if like something goes down on your end, who's responsible for the ticket because they couldn't switch, like things like

1471
01:25:02,530 --> 01:25:05,530
that, yeah.

1472
01:25:05,730 --> 01:25:08,010
I'll send it to you. Awesome.

1473
01:25:09,410 --> 01:25:11,740
Thank you so much, gentlemen. You guys are great. Thank you.

1474
01:25:11,930 --> 01:25:14,410
OK, let's jump to get a question in the back.

1475
01:25:14,610 --> 01:25:18,470
Or a comment, OK, we're just, I'm just trying to wrap this up. Would this be something that you could directly just take them,

1476
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:22,330
take this outline on the foyer or would you like to, I mean?

1477
01:25:23,090 --> 01:25:25,330
Come come on up yet?

1478
01:25:26,890 --> 01:25:30,530
So a question, a few data questions for you along with the lawyer.

1479
01:25:31,210 --> 01:25:32,650
What is your retention?

1480
01:25:34,010 --> 01:25:35,650
Mr. Moss, could you share your name?

1481
01:25:35,770 --> 01:25:37,410
Oh, Steven Moss with Britt.

1482
01:25:37,530 --> 01:25:38,980
Bridgeport Thank you, Sir.

1483
01:25:39,250 --> 01:25:40,490
We keep it as long as needed.

1484
01:25:40,650 --> 01:25:41,370
So as long as that.

1485
01:25:42,010 --> 01:25:43,410
As long as needed.

1486
01:25:43,810 --> 01:25:45,770
OK. And then second, where is your data stored?

1487
01:25:46,780 --> 01:25:48,980
It's so we we start with.

1488
01:25:49,490 --> 01:25:49,890
With the.

1489
01:25:50,850 --> 01:25:53,170
A third party OK and so.

1490
01:25:53,290 --> 01:25:54,450
They're they're called resolve.

1491
01:25:54,690 --> 01:25:56,290
OK. And where do they store it?

1492
01:25:58,180 --> 01:26:01,700
My question is, is it in China? Is it in Russia? Is it in US?

1493
01:26:02,530 --> 01:26:04,530
OK, their data stored.

1494
01:26:04,930 --> 01:26:08,090
Which though might be in different places, so I'm concerned about that.

1495
01:26:08,450 --> 01:26:09,890
Yeah, it needs to stay.

1496
01:26:11,330 --> 01:26:12,690
In the States if.

1497
01:26:12,970 --> 01:26:17,650
Public comments on addressing us. And I also don't like that your attention is hey, hey, Sir.

1498
01:26:17,890 --> 01:26:22,210
That stock adjust the chair please, what's your question and we can sorry my question is I'm heavily against data usage that's

1499
01:26:22,210 --> 01:26:26,530
indefinitely stored.

1500
01:26:26,650 --> 01:26:28,450
Cuts definitely against.

1501
01:26:28,890 --> 01:26:33,890
Anyone that's in it? Sure. So thank you for thank you for that. Appreciate you. Thank you for the comment. OK, we're going to wrap

1502
01:26:33,890 --> 01:26:38,890
this up and we're going to get going to the. Could I just have one last quick suggestion?

1503
01:26:39,850 --> 01:26:41,010
Could we put this?

1504
01:26:41,570 --> 01:26:42,250
And just.

1505
01:26:42,610 --> 01:26:45,930
We've got a handful of companies that use the digital passes and so I'd love to just.

1506
01:26:46,050 --> 01:26:47,010
Put out to bid.

1507
01:26:47,210 --> 01:26:52,700
Let's I would suggest having the City Council kind of select a unified. I would hate to have like 6 different.

1508
01:26:52,890 --> 01:26:54,450
Things throughout the cities so.

1509
01:26:54,650 --> 01:26:55,490
Why don't we?

1510
01:26:55,570 --> 01:26:57,410
There's nothing to put out to bid right now.

1511
01:26:57,570 --> 01:26:59,370
All of the neighborhoods.

1512
01:26:59,970 --> 01:27:00,890
Eased off.

1513
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:02,380
I mean like.

1514
01:27:02,610 --> 01:27:07,010
Generally speaking, they're looking for the results of we have to strings and Providence.

1515
01:27:07,450 --> 01:27:10,690
Actually we have to put out forbid anyways. Yeah, we have.

1516
01:27:11,050 --> 01:27:13,290
That's the other guy that's going to happen anyway. Quit.

1517
01:27:13,530 --> 01:27:15,290
Vacated the contract, yeah, yeah, so.

1518
01:27:15,850 --> 01:27:19,270
I was just suggesting we just have a unified. So any neighborhood that wants to opt in, they use the contract that we set will

1519
01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:22,690
probably get a better rate.

1520
01:27:23,730 --> 01:27:26,050
Having the economy of scale from something like this.

1521
01:27:26,410 --> 01:27:27,170
Thanks. OK.

1522
01:27:27,980 --> 01:27:29,340
Awesome. Thank you, guys.

1523
01:27:29,490 --> 01:27:33,820
Appreciate it. OK. We're going to move to business item 8.1 at this time.

1524
01:27:36,450 --> 01:27:38,090
Let's talk about this.

1525
01:27:38,930 --> 01:27:43,290
I know that there was some people in the in the thank you guys for coming. Sure appreciate it and.

1526
01:27:46,170 --> 01:27:48,250
Awesome. You guys are great. Appreciate it.

1527
01:27:49,250 --> 01:27:53,783
All righty, let's have a discussion about 8.1. If anyone in the in the is we're going through this discussion and we have any

1528
01:27:53,783 --> 01:27:58,316
members from the audience that would like to talk, if you could just raise your hand as we kind of go through the deliberation. We

1529
01:27:58,316 --> 01:28:02,849
can, we can call and, and have you come up.

1530
01:28:03,410 --> 01:28:04,890
On that as well so.

1531
01:28:05,410 --> 01:28:08,330
Moved to 8.1 resolution 20.

1532
01:28:08,450 --> 01:28:11,500
26-1 Amend the consolidated fee schedule.

1533
01:28:11,930 --> 01:28:17,930
Council, any, any comments about that? Yes, Mr. David Kyle over there.

1534
01:28:18,010 --> 01:28:21,630
You have it pulled up in front of you, correct? We didn't get physical copies. So just to save me the time from going and pulling

1535
01:28:21,630 --> 01:28:25,250
it up online.

1536
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:31,580
What was the actual verbiage in the resolution when it came to granting the mayor?

1537
01:28:31,690 --> 01:28:38,010
The powers to amend fees, so it says, only to make non substantive.

1538
01:28:38,130 --> 01:28:40,780
Administrative adjustments as necessary.

1539
01:28:42,540 --> 01:28:49,340
Based on our previous discussion, do we want to just remove that Section 5 and it says a city manager rather? Yeah, city manager.

1540
01:28:49,810 --> 01:28:50,970
Or designee.

1541
01:28:51,050 --> 01:28:55,010
Is authorized and directed to implement the provisions of this resolution.

1542
01:28:55,490 --> 01:28:59,770
As we have no city manager, we probably ought to make it something like the mayor or designee.

1543
01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:06,260
We don't want to give away that power, right? That's what we were previously talking about, City Council or designee.

1544
01:29:06,770 --> 01:29:14,690
So it's non substance. I mean, it's really just small adjustments. It's to be constrained, sure, but like Mr. Riddle would say if

1545
01:29:14,690 --> 01:29:22,610
he was here, who defines what the small adjustment is? Because to me a small adjustment is literally any fee on that fee schedule.

1546
01:29:24,570 --> 01:29:26,290
Well, I would argue that the.

1547
01:29:26,850 --> 01:29:28,850
The tough is not small, so.

1548
01:29:30,050 --> 01:29:31,170
The point being.

1549
01:29:31,530 --> 01:29:33,300
It's a subjective decision.

1550
01:29:33,490 --> 01:29:34,970
Can we say for the immediate?

1551
01:29:35,250 --> 01:29:38,590
30 days. So that way he's solving it. So it's a time constraint. Well, no, no, no, no, no. This is a separate thing that right

1552
01:29:38,590 --> 01:29:41,930
we're talking about.

1553
01:29:42,050 --> 01:29:48,050
Amending an adopted or accepting a resolution for an adopted amended fee schedule that already removes the tough.

1554
01:29:48,450 --> 01:29:50,730
We're talking about in addition to that.

1555
01:29:50,890 --> 01:29:56,970
Giving the mayor power to reduce the fee schedule on different things. And it is to reduce, not to raise.

1556
01:29:57,130 --> 01:29:58,290
Correct, that was.

1557
01:29:58,370 --> 01:30:06,210
On purpose so that there's but I will give credit where credit is due and Ezra's point protects us from some favoritism and.

1558
01:30:06,330 --> 01:30:10,290
Perceptions of those kind of things. For example, if I want to go become a vendor, now it.

1559
01:30:10,850 --> 01:30:11,810
Vineyard Days.

1560
01:30:12,010 --> 01:30:13,810
Zach could waive my fee then.

1561
01:30:13,930 --> 01:30:14,700
And that would.

1562
01:30:14,850 --> 01:30:17,130
Probably not be the correct thing to do.

1563
01:30:17,210 --> 01:30:22,500
But it could be done under that, so let's just cover the bases, protect ourselves and do things the right way.

1564
01:30:22,610 --> 01:30:26,860
Send it to the Council or make us write a code that gives us the ability to make those exceptions.

1565
01:30:29,530 --> 01:30:31,340
I'm fine to do whatever you guys want.

1566
01:30:32,250 --> 01:30:33,290
I do not care about this.

1567
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:37,580
I'll support part of the. I just want to get rid of the tough.

1568
01:30:38,050 --> 01:30:43,170
So I do not care. So if you want to charge, if we want to charge the herd fascination, let's.

1569
01:30:43,250 --> 01:30:46,390
My proposal would just be let's remove that line from the resolution. Let's accept the resolution that allows us to remove the

1570
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:49,530
tough.

1571
01:30:50,010 --> 01:30:51,570
With the exception of Section 5.

1572
01:30:52,290 --> 01:30:52,890
Correct.

1573
01:30:53,290 --> 01:30:54,010
And then?

1574
01:30:54,250 --> 01:30:56,290
If we want to write a code.

1575
01:30:56,450 --> 01:30:57,770
That allows us.

1576
01:30:57,930 --> 01:31:03,070
The power to negotiate or reduce those when they come in front of the council, great. I got no problem having 200 people come in

1577
01:31:03,070 --> 01:31:08,210
front of the council and ask for a code to be reduced and I'll tell all of them no.

1578
01:31:08,650 --> 01:31:09,170
But.

1579
01:31:10,020 --> 01:31:13,320
But you want to be able to go home before 8, so you want to remove that to make non substantive administrative adjustments as

1580
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,620
necessary.

1581
01:31:17,440 --> 01:31:20,780
Yeah. Ezra, does that satisfy the concern that you brought up as well?

1582
01:31:22,490 --> 01:31:25,490
Just to remove that, yeah, just get rid of Section 5 entirely.

1583
01:31:26,460 --> 01:31:29,980
Yeah, well, you got to have an administrative implementation in it.

1584
01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:38,620
Yeah, that's where my comment was. Let's just remove the line that says the mayor can make the change.

1585
01:31:39,050 --> 01:31:40,010
Just there's.

1586
01:31:40,090 --> 01:31:42,410
Like between two commas.

1587
01:31:42,490 --> 01:31:43,610
To make nonsense.

1588
01:31:43,690 --> 01:31:46,490
Dance to administrative adjustments as necessary.

1589
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:52,820
I think the second comment, we're implementing it right now, I'd say the council is.

1590
01:31:53,550 --> 01:31:56,140
Passing this as directing the implementation of it right now.

1591
01:31:56,490 --> 01:31:57,730
So if we could say the.

1592
01:31:59,050 --> 01:32:01,130
Or I just say the Council.

1593
01:32:02,030 --> 01:32:03,070
Is authorized.

1594
01:32:03,930 --> 01:32:09,610
And I got, I got what you're saying here. OK. So yeah, the counselor designee is authorized to.

1595
01:32:09,970 --> 01:32:12,420
Direct and implement the provisions of this resolution.

1596
01:32:12,530 --> 01:32:13,130
Period.

1597
01:32:13,490 --> 01:32:14,010
Period.

1598
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,160
The council is authorized.

1599
01:32:17,330 --> 01:32:23,330
Yeah. That way we're saying that we retain the legislative authority to amend that on a case by case basis.

1600
01:32:25,140 --> 01:32:28,340
But that way it has to come to a public meeting, it has to be heard.

1601
01:32:29,010 --> 01:32:31,410
Yeah, I'm fine with that.

1602
01:32:32,540 --> 01:32:33,500
Be a long night.

1603
01:32:35,740 --> 01:32:39,940
Also, I'd recommend changing the year on the schedule. It's got the.

1604
01:32:40,370 --> 01:32:42,730
2024 to 2025 fiscal year on the.

1605
01:32:43,250 --> 01:32:44,970
The backup, yeah, Thank you.

1606
01:32:47,010 --> 01:32:48,290
OK. That's a lot. OK.

1607
01:32:50,170 --> 01:32:51,250
Anything else on?

1608
01:32:51,410 --> 01:32:53,570
This Council to deliberate.

1609
01:32:53,650 --> 01:32:56,010
David Pierce, did you? Were you raising your hand?

1610
01:32:58,170 --> 01:32:58,970
I'm sorry.

1611
01:32:59,570 --> 01:33:03,330
I don't know. I was looking down at here. Yeah, Go ahead, David. Here's Cascade I.

1612
01:33:03,730 --> 01:33:05,650
I think Parker.

1613
01:33:06,050 --> 01:33:08,490
Your comments are spot on.

1614
01:33:08,570 --> 01:33:10,410
Because you all meet every week.

1615
01:33:10,770 --> 01:33:14,970
It's not like there's a huge time difference between a request.

1616
01:33:15,410 --> 01:33:16,370
And an action.

1617
01:33:16,850 --> 01:33:18,850
OK. Sure. Thank you. Thank you, Sir.

1618
01:33:19,410 --> 01:33:20,570
So OK.

1619
01:33:21,170 --> 01:33:24,930
I mean the City Council.

1620
01:33:25,370 --> 01:33:30,410
Isn't like is is not implementing the provisions?

1621
01:33:30,570 --> 01:33:32,690
Like that's an administrative function.

1622
01:33:34,740 --> 01:33:36,300
Is Jesse still listening?

1623
01:33:36,930 --> 01:33:37,650
Yes.

1624
01:33:39,170 --> 01:33:40,810
Oh, goodness. OK.

1625
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:42,980
We can.

1626
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,460
Say that the City Council is directing.

1627
01:33:47,650 --> 01:33:48,930
This resolution.

1628
01:33:50,610 --> 01:33:54,220
For the mayor or administrative function of the city.

1629
01:33:54,370 --> 01:33:56,850
To implement the provisions of this resolution.

1630
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:02,900
Remove the comic to comic non substantiative administrative adjustments as necessary.

1631
01:34:05,630 --> 01:34:07,580
I mean, I don't, I don't see why that's.

1632
01:34:07,770 --> 01:34:09,970
Yeah, not something we can just.

1633
01:34:10,250 --> 01:34:11,010
Say.

1634
01:34:11,770 --> 01:34:12,650
This is making.

1635
01:34:12,890 --> 01:34:14,810
Logical sense to me as I just read.

1636
01:34:14,930 --> 01:34:15,610
Through that.

1637
01:34:15,970 --> 01:34:17,370
So we're authorizing.

1638
01:34:17,490 --> 01:34:19,650
The mayor or his designee?

1639
01:34:20,500 --> 01:34:22,900
To implement the provisions of the resolution.

1640
01:34:24,580 --> 01:34:31,140
And to ensure the updated consolidated fee schedule is properly maintained and made available to the public.

1641
01:34:31,410 --> 01:34:32,970
All we're doing is removing the.

1642
01:34:34,830 --> 01:34:37,540
Non substantiative administrative adjustments.

1643
01:34:37,690 --> 01:34:39,090
That's all I was advocating, OK.

1644
01:34:39,610 --> 01:34:41,420
Yeah, good.

1645
01:34:42,370 --> 01:34:46,250
Yeah, with that then I do have.

1646
01:34:47,310 --> 01:34:49,940
Any thoughts on the actual fees themselves?

1647
01:34:50,610 --> 01:34:51,770
Any final thoughts?

1648
01:34:55,700 --> 01:34:57,780
I've been very involved in.

1649
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,680
Looking at the budgets, going through the audits, those kind of things.

1650
01:35:03,370 --> 01:35:06,330
I recognize.

1651
01:35:06,770 --> 01:35:12,810
Your concern as a legitimate concern when you talk about let's make sure that we have the dollar for dollar to cover that.

1652
01:35:14,970 --> 01:35:16,970
I believe that we are on track.

1653
01:35:17,370 --> 01:35:20,090
To roughly cut 2 for one.

1654
01:35:20,210 --> 01:35:22,090
When it comes to this expense.

1655
01:35:22,850 --> 01:35:26,370
So I feel very comfortable. However, I know Evans not here.

1656
01:35:26,770 --> 01:35:27,290
And.

1657
01:35:28,250 --> 01:35:30,330
You know, we haven't published those specifics yet.

1658
01:35:30,970 --> 01:35:35,650
I am meeting with Evan on Friday morning and some of the department heads to go through their.

1659
01:35:36,370 --> 01:35:40,610
Budgets and requests and try to make sure that we have alignment. We're on track for these things too.

1660
01:35:41,010 --> 01:35:43,370
To my understanding thus far.

1661
01:35:43,530 --> 01:35:44,530
We've cut.

1662
01:35:45,430 --> 01:35:47,350
I don't want to say cuts cuts, but I mean.

1663
01:35:47,890 --> 01:35:55,010
Identified where we have roughly $1,000,000 worth of savings, which is like 8% of our annual budget to begin with, so.

1664
01:35:55,610 --> 01:35:59,170
We're moving into a position where I feel.

1665
01:35:59,290 --> 01:36:02,450
Comfortable doing this and we're empowering some of the.

1666
01:36:03,170 --> 01:36:06,090
Departments, for example Parks and Rec in the library are really good.

1667
01:36:06,450 --> 01:36:07,410
Examples here.

1668
01:36:07,650 --> 01:36:09,010
To fundraise.

1669
01:36:09,130 --> 01:36:13,420
And recover some of their own expenses and operating costs through.

1670
01:36:14,450 --> 01:36:16,370
Cost collection measures right so.

1671
01:36:16,610 --> 01:36:20,530
I think that we're going to be in a position where this is not.

1672
01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:25,430
Concerning, yes, it is going to be tight because the budget overall is tight and the forecast for the next three years is really

1673
01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:28,790
tight.

1674
01:36:29,170 --> 01:36:30,860
So that's not to say that this is.

1675
01:36:32,450 --> 01:36:36,180
To devalue or diminish your position, it's just to say.

1676
01:36:37,010 --> 01:36:38,130
I think that there is a.

1677
01:36:38,650 --> 01:36:40,890
Position we can be in where at least this year.

1678
01:36:40,970 --> 01:36:42,570
We're going to be good.

1679
01:36:43,410 --> 01:36:47,660
And I think in recognizing working with public works, looking at.

1680
01:36:47,810 --> 01:36:50,330
What roads are the highest priority?

1681
01:36:50,610 --> 01:36:51,730
Yeah, we're maybe not.

1682
01:36:51,850 --> 01:36:55,290
Doing the maintenance right at the recommended time, but we're doing it before we have to do the full Rd. replacement type stuff

1683
01:36:55,290 --> 01:36:58,730
too, so it's.

1684
01:36:59,130 --> 01:37:00,970
It's a little bit of a staggered game.

1685
01:37:01,090 --> 01:37:02,410
To my understanding.

1686
01:37:02,490 --> 01:37:03,330
But I have.

1687
01:37:03,410 --> 01:37:07,650
Confidence in where we're kind of positioning ourselves to be able to achieve that.

1688
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:16,700
So there's also some context. So we explored several options for the Tuffy, and one of the options was to do like.

1689
01:37:17,130 --> 01:37:22,010
If we did an across the board 475 for businesses and homes.

1690
01:37:22,570 --> 01:37:23,810
You know we, we.

1691
01:37:23,890 --> 01:37:26,610
Evan mapped out and he sent an e-mail to council.

1692
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,740
And from January to June, that would amount to 89.

1693
01:37:30,850 --> 01:37:31,970
A little over 80.

1694
01:37:32,410 --> 01:37:33,610
89 Six.

1695
01:37:34,490 --> 01:37:37,170
So almost $90,000 and if.

1696
01:37:37,330 --> 01:37:40,340
You put it into perspective.

1697
01:37:41,050 --> 01:37:42,890
What the tough fee raised was about.

1698
01:37:43,610 --> 01:37:45,300
Almost $1,000,000.

1699
01:37:46,010 --> 01:37:47,610
And that's still.

1700
01:37:48,010 --> 01:37:51,810
We were still needing to put another million for our general fund.

1701
01:37:52,410 --> 01:37:54,300
And so even if we reduced it.

1702
01:37:54,410 --> 01:37:56,370
The tough fee is so small.

1703
01:37:57,050 --> 01:37:59,060
Like it doesn't make a substantial.

1704
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:01,220
Impact.

1705
01:38:01,490 --> 01:38:03,740
In terms of like actual I mean.

1706
01:38:03,850 --> 01:38:05,530
It doesn't really. I mean, yes.

1707
01:38:05,650 --> 01:38:07,660
$90,000 is a lot of money.

1708
01:38:07,770 --> 01:38:09,050
But in terms of?

1709
01:38:09,130 --> 01:38:11,210
The $2,000,000 needed for the road.

1710
01:38:12,710 --> 01:38:15,620
The road transportation Fund it's not.

1711
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:19,300
It's not going to make a meaningful impact.

1712
01:38:22,370 --> 01:38:23,330
Any other questions?

1713
01:38:23,410 --> 01:38:24,530
For a call for a vote.

1714
01:38:29,930 --> 01:38:30,490
Christmas I.

1715
01:38:30,970 --> 01:38:32,530
I will give you a motion.

1716
01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:34,860
Yes, go ahead, David.

1717
01:38:35,970 --> 01:38:41,610
I move that we accept. We adopt resolution 2026.

1718
01:38:42,540 --> 01:38:43,540
Dash 21.

1719
01:38:44,490 --> 01:38:45,770
Consolidated fee schedule.

1720
01:38:45,930 --> 01:38:46,490
To uh.

1721
01:38:47,290 --> 01:38:50,730
Has written with the with the exception of Section 5.

1722
01:38:51,130 --> 01:38:57,970
Will read The City Council directs the mayor or his designee to implement the provisions of this resolution and to ensure.

1723
01:38:58,250 --> 01:39:00,210
To ensure the updates.

1724
01:39:01,740 --> 01:39:06,020
The update should ensure the updated consolidated fee schedule is properly maintained.

1725
01:39:06,090 --> 01:39:07,420
And made available to the public.

1726
01:39:09,390 --> 01:39:10,620
Thank you, do I have a second?

1727
01:39:11,500 --> 01:39:12,100
2nd.

1728
01:39:12,450 --> 01:39:13,970
All right, we'll do this by roll call.

1729
01:39:14,730 --> 01:39:16,970
Oh sorry, the year 2.

1730
01:39:17,450 --> 01:39:20,050
Just making sure we update the year, the year as well. Did you get the?

1731
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,620
Yeah, OK, I have it down. But Tony.

1732
01:39:24,930 --> 01:39:26,210
That's do you have a damn?

1733
01:39:26,610 --> 01:39:32,730
I have changed the year to 20262026. Tony's like I'll listen to the recording later. OK, let's do this by roll call. Parker. Hi.

1734
01:39:33,130 --> 01:39:33,610
Jacob I.

1735
01:39:34,250 --> 01:39:36,730
Jake, I, David, hi.

1736
01:39:36,970 --> 01:39:37,770
And Ezra?

1737
01:39:38,900 --> 01:39:39,180
Aye, OK.

1738
01:39:40,850 --> 01:39:42,290
Resolution passes.

1739
01:39:42,610 --> 01:39:47,150
Already we're going to talk about 8.2 and 8.4 at the same time, if that's all right, that they're kind of one in the same. So 8.2

1740
01:39:47,150 --> 01:39:51,690
is adopt resolution.

1741
01:39:51,890 --> 01:39:53,370
In support of parking and.

1742
01:39:53,530 --> 01:39:54,250
Enforcement.

1743
01:39:56,530 --> 01:40:02,370
Any discussion on that item? I know that Holden Holden had just a couple of.

1744
01:40:02,650 --> 01:40:03,610
Yeah, let me just.

1745
01:40:03,890 --> 01:40:08,570
And perhaps Parker already the context on that. So this is what we talked about last.

1746
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:14,380
I worked a lot with Councilman Nair, so I want to say thank you for.

1747
01:40:14,450 --> 01:40:16,170
You know, being willing to take my.

1748
01:40:16,730 --> 01:40:20,170
20,000 phone calls and text messages over the course of the last week.

1749
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:23,780
We presented the.

1750
01:40:24,050 --> 01:40:26,170
Concept for this on Thursday.

1751
01:40:26,330 --> 01:40:28,700
To our special session.

1752
01:40:29,170 --> 01:40:33,890
And largely what this is, is recognizing that.

1753
01:40:35,330 --> 01:40:36,730
Bridgeport, Lechemont.

1754
01:40:38,210 --> 01:40:40,660
They have legitimate safety concerns.

1755
01:40:40,810 --> 01:40:42,210
When it comes to.

1756
01:40:42,650 --> 01:40:43,410
The over.

1757
01:40:43,490 --> 01:40:45,970
Crowding on the streets and the vehicles that are parked.

1758
01:40:46,490 --> 01:40:48,050
Right up against stop signs.

1759
01:40:48,170 --> 01:40:51,090
In front of fire hydrants and on red curbs.

1760
01:40:52,030 --> 01:40:55,830
So while there's been a lot of debate and discussion about how to do parking enforcement in those neighborhoods and some of the

1761
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:59,630
other neighborhoods as well.

1762
01:41:01,050 --> 01:41:06,180
We thought one of the ways that we could immediately alleviate some of their concerns was to.

1763
01:41:06,730 --> 01:41:10,450
Enforced on the low hanging fruit when it came to if you're parts.

1764
01:41:10,690 --> 01:41:14,970
And I, I drove through that neighborhood. I told everybody, I took pictures on my phone and stuff. You're parked.

1765
01:41:15,210 --> 01:41:18,610
Literally front tire on the stop sign line.

1766
01:41:19,290 --> 01:41:20,610
Everyone knows that's illegal.

1767
01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:24,460
Right. And I mean, if you go get a driver's license, you.

1768
01:41:24,610 --> 01:41:27,810
Have to learn, you know, I can't park 30 feet in front of a stop sign and I can't park in front of the fire hydrant. And I

1769
01:41:27,810 --> 01:41:31,010
shouldn't be parking on a red curb.

1770
01:41:31,650 --> 01:41:32,250
So.

1771
01:41:32,650 --> 01:41:34,730
The theory was if we implement.

1772
01:41:34,810 --> 01:41:37,690
This resolution which essentially is directing the.

1773
01:41:37,850 --> 01:41:43,060
Sheriff's Department to just do a safety type patrol through that neighborhood in that area every day.

1774
01:41:43,930 --> 01:41:47,450
They can identify the immediate safety hazards.

1775
01:41:47,650 --> 01:41:50,890
And give them a citation or a tow order immediately.

1776
01:41:50,970 --> 01:41:53,810
To help make those streets a little bit safer.

1777
01:41:53,890 --> 01:41:58,130
Right. Increased visibility when you're turning into a neighborhood or onto the road and your kids aren't going to get ran over

1778
01:41:58,130 --> 01:42:02,370
when they're trying to cross the street because no one can see them between the cars.

1779
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:03,360
So.

1780
01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:05,480
The theory behind this is.

1781
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:08,040
Let's enforce on the low hanging fruit.

1782
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:09,400
And let's.

1783
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:14,050
By the neighborhood's time to build consensus and develop actual.

1784
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,890
Policy or procedure that's going to represent the community at large.

1785
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:20,370
Thank you.

1786
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:22,480
Holden, do you want to jump in?

1787
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,000
I sure. Yep.

1788
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:25,680
I have a question and.

1789
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,440
Do we need to do a resolution to?

1790
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:31,400
For this, this is an administrative thing. We already the chief, he already has authority to do all of this. Yes, it could be an

1791
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:35,240
administrative thing, however.

1792
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:41,470
I've drafted a resolution and it's here before that we want so we can make our vote. We're going to vote. That's the beauty of it.

1793
01:42:41,470 --> 01:42:47,620
Right now we have two different, you know, avenues of government. We have the mayor and the administrative and we have the

1794
01:42:47,620 --> 01:42:53,770
legislative and either one can initiate things like this. To be honest with you, I think it's important that we tie Holdens hand

1795
01:42:53,770 --> 01:42:59,920
of like we're speaking as a unit, which is why I made adjustments of like, hey, you didn't know, hold it.

1796
01:43:00,770 --> 01:43:02,210
And we'll, we'll go over the adjustments.

1797
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:05,160
Chief Deputy Holden shared those with me.

1798
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:05,920
Earlier.

1799
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:08,520
And I know he had shared them with some of you guys.

1800
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,880
Essentially the adjustments to the resolution.

1801
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:12,320
That I had.

1802
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:13,840
Drafted and you know.

1803
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:17,800
Ezra was Co sponsoring is essentially acknowledging that there are.

1804
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,840
Operational realities with what?

1805
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:26,000
The sheriff can and can't do and if they get like a domestic violence call while they're out there.

1806
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:29,525
Giving a tow order, they're going to abandon the tow order and go respond to the domestic violence call. So it's acknowledging

1807
01:43:29,525 --> 01:43:32,930
those realities.

1808
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,730
That I think he's going to present on right now, yeah.

1809
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,400
What I wanted to do is obviously we are committed to.

1810
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:46,240
Whatever the council would like us to do within within our legal bounds, right? And I've been part of parking discussions for.

1811
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:47,360
Nine years.

1812
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:52,060
And and very empathetic to the neighborhoods and the parking problems and especially these neighborhoods. We definitely recognize

1813
01:43:52,060 --> 01:43:55,720
the need.

1814
01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:00,985
For some, some change in these neighborhoods. So I did want to just take just one second to talk about some of the stuff we've

1815
01:44:00,985 --> 01:44:05,970
taken this. These are just this month, just since the beginning of March.

1816
01:44:06,990 --> 01:44:13,450
This is a map of our city. Obviously, these dots represent citations for parking violations that we've issued just this month.

1817
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,760
Now, some of those may be warnings, but they're written.

1818
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:21,320
Warnings or citations left on a vehicle people are aware that they have been parking in illegally.

1819
01:44:22,650 --> 01:44:24,050
This is a comparison to.

1820
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,440
Every other type of citation we've written for the month.

1821
01:44:28,050 --> 01:44:32,230
And then this dot is all of the calls we've had to or all of the case numbers, not calls. Calls will be way more than this. These

1822
01:44:32,230 --> 01:44:36,410
are case numbers.

1823
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:40,180
That we've taken just this month within the city, there's the yellow dots. So purple is parking citations, green is every other

1824
01:44:40,180 --> 01:44:43,840
type of citation.

1825
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,440
And then our yellow is our case numbers.

1826
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:50,180
So obviously we have a balance that we have to take between when we're talking about parking enforcement and the time we spend

1827
01:44:50,180 --> 01:44:53,640
with that and then responding to other.

1828
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:55,200
Other things like speeding.

1829
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,520
Case numbers, domestic violence, all those types of calls, so.

1830
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:00,960
You'll forgive me.

1831
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,780
Help me to understand the case number, What the difference is between that and a call for service? It's a call for service so

1832
01:45:03,780 --> 01:45:06,520
these no.

1833
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:10,540
A case number is we. Let's say I get a call for service. Somebody calls in that just has basic questions that does not generate a

1834
01:45:10,540 --> 01:45:14,320
case number.

1835
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:18,800
Case numbers are generally something more serious that requires the deputy to write a report.

1836
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:19,600
So.

1837
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:22,600
Generally speaking.

1838
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:24,080
Case numbers.

1839
01:45:24,480 --> 01:45:27,200
Call numbers are going to be way higher than what our case numbers are.

1840
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,280
Because we get a lot of calls of just.

1841
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,280
Civil problems. Things that don't require a case number.

1842
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:33,680
Or don't require a report.

1843
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:37,080
So some of the parks in front of someone's driveway and they can't get out, That's a.

1844
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:38,880
That's got the case number and.

1845
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:40,480
You out and do something.

1846
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,280
Yes, yes. Thank you.

1847
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:46,160
OK, all right, with that being said, let's look at.

1848
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,080
The resolution real quick.

1849
01:45:49,820 --> 01:45:50,930
That's the one I had pulled up.

1850
01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:56,010
So I just had a couple of small edits because of the towing company recently.

1851
01:45:56,160 --> 01:46:00,880
Resigning or withdrawing themselves from from contracting with the city.

1852
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:06,800
I recommend we change this to authorized towing services so that whoever we hire or when I call for a tow.

1853
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:11,520
The next rotation toe, this covers us there. Yeah, I just wanted to clarify so everybody understands the Sheriff's Department when

1854
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:15,800
they call for a tow, it goes to essentially the.

1855
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:21,480
Collection of tow companies that are working through their dispatch and so it's just the next one in rotation so there's no.

1856
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,120
Like monopoly on tow through the sheriff's.

1857
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:24,560
Yeah.

1858
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:28,480
Just add this little section here and.

1859
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:31,560
To prioritize enforcement and proactive patrol efforts.

1860
01:46:33,170 --> 01:46:36,590
And then in this one, we'll redline the discretion and put in in accordance with existing law and established enforcement

1861
01:46:36,590 --> 01:46:40,010
procedures.

1862
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:41,480
Again the.

1863
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,280
Contractor told to change that to authorized towing provider.

1864
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:48,320
And then this is the one that Councilmember Mccumber was talking about.

1865
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:53,240
Shall be towed so that the desire from the Council is for us to tow on these.

1866
01:46:53,480 --> 01:46:54,880
Violations here.

1867
01:46:55,200 --> 01:47:00,640
We just put that caveat in there unless there's mitigating circumstances, reasonably warned, and alternative enforcement action.

1868
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:05,960
So if we got a call to something more serious, we could hurry and leave a sticker or a citation and get on our way to.

1869
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:11,650
To something that's higher priority for the audience. If you're having a hard time reading the screen, what those were was.

1870
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:15,320
Blocking fire hydrants parked on red curbs, parked in front of stop signs, blocking intersections, or otherwise creating an

1871
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,800
imminent safety hazard.

1872
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,280
And then the last one is just another.

1873
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,040
Take out the contract of towing and put in authorized towing.

1874
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:25,560
As needed So.

1875
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:26,560
Great.

1876
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:29,160
I think those shakers are.

1877
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:30,480
Common sense. So I.

1878
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:33,520
Holden, thank you.

1879
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:35,130
For that, any questions for holding on?

1880
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:36,200
Regarding this.

1881
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:38,600
Do you guys track?

1882
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:39,720
Like when you.

1883
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:44,040
Either toe or leave a citation for a vehicle. Is that in your system? So if you like.

1884
01:47:44,440 --> 01:47:47,450
Say I'm writing another citation. Does it automatically say?

1885
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:48,840
This had.

1886
01:47:49,740 --> 01:47:55,490
X number of citations in the past week or so. Anytime one of our deputies runs a plate number, it'll come back with.

1887
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,730
Any involvement that we've had with that plate in the past.

1888
01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:58,840
OK, very cool.

1889
01:47:59,820 --> 01:48:01,650
Thank you. Any other questions for Holden?

1890
01:48:04,050 --> 01:48:06,290
Not for Holden, I guess, or discussion.

1891
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:07,000
Go redhead.

1892
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,960
Could we, since it's easy to see when?

1893
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,680
People are doing multiple violations. Could we add that?

1894
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:15,360
The first offense is a.

1895
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:16,960
Citation and then.

1896
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,520
Anytime after that, it's a.

1897
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:22,400
Do we want to allow for a warning?

1898
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,160
Basically someone there. So we went. We say the first.

1899
01:48:26,440 --> 01:48:26,960
Versus a.

1900
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:28,640
Citation.

1901
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:30,720
Takes away the chance to the warning the first time.

1902
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,960
If you, if I can just say.

1903
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,800
Established enforcement procedures. That's basically already there.

1904
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:38,960
That's what we've been doing as our established procedures is.

1905
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:40,240
Typically will go out.

1906
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:45,440
And for example, I went out last night to drive it and see it, and here was a car right in front of a fire hydrant, red curb and a

1907
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:50,280
foot and a half off the curb. I was like, Oh my heck. So I ran the plate number and knocked on doors. Finally got ahold of

1908
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:55,120
somebody and said move your car.

1909
01:48:55,280 --> 01:49:00,920
So that was and we do that typically that's our typical enforcement procedures or a warning.

1910
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,160
You know, we'll try and not, I knocked on.

1911
01:49:04,180 --> 01:49:05,810
Doors for three different cars.

1912
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:07,960
Good talk to people and said hey.

1913
01:49:08,590 --> 01:49:14,250
Starting Tuesday, it's going to get a little bit tougher around here so so please start moving your cars so.

1914
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:15,960
Anyway, well, and I'm.

1915
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:18,760
I think it's just to share where where I'm at here.

1916
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:21,200
You know we've.

1917
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:22,400
Discussed.

1918
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:23,760
Ticketing.

1919
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,840
And ramping enforcement.

1920
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:31,365
I understand all of us are having different conversations with different people. I felt like I got shouted down every time I

1921
01:49:31,365 --> 01:49:35,090
brought that up for the last three meetings.

1922
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:41,560
And I my perception was that people wanted more immediate enforcement and I don't feel like we're trying to.

1923
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:46,440
Go and create, you know, a hostile situation for anybody, if we were to say.

1924
01:49:48,150 --> 01:49:49,130
I think that these.

1925
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:52,620
And I'm not not mad about the you, not if you're willing to go and knock the doors. I mean, at the end of the day, that car is

1926
01:49:52,620 --> 01:49:55,880
moving.

1927
01:49:56,480 --> 01:50:00,160
That's the result that we want, and so I'm perfectly content with that.

1928
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:01,800
It's just like.

1929
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:02,840
Immediate.

1930
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:06,010
Safety violations, I think, should be enforced the process.

1931
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:09,080
Say again, you made less of an enemy in the process. Agreed.

1932
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:09,600
Agreed.

1933
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:12,200
So I mean I guess my.

1934
01:50:12,970 --> 01:50:19,370
Concern, and I would love to get the public feedback if the mayor's willing to let the public come up and comment too, is.

1935
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:22,200
Look if somebody's parked right in front of the stop sign.

1936
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:24,650
Or right in front of the fire hydrant.

1937
01:50:25,460 --> 01:50:27,730
And we can't knock on the door and get them to move.

1938
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:29,440
Is it better that we just move them?

1939
01:50:30,250 --> 01:50:31,610
For the public safety.

1940
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,680
Yeah. Yeah, it is so.

1941
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:36,320
I have a unique perspective on this because I so.

1942
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:40,600
In high density, if you were to park on a red curb in front of stop sign, you're towed instantly. So I absolutely believe that

1943
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:44,800
should apply to public growth as well. I mean.

1944
01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:48,290
It's creating a safety violation. It's breaking the law.

1945
01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:49,160
So I think.

1946
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:50,480
Towing.

1947
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:52,320
Doing that first.

1948
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:53,440
I have no problem with that.

1949
01:50:54,170 --> 01:50:56,170
Yeah, anyway we can allow.

1950
01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:00,520
The chief deputy to have a policy have a policy that.

1951
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,120
Handles it the way they think best. I mean if they can get.

1952
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:05,480
Car to move right now.

1953
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:07,480
Great. If they can't then call it in it.

1954
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:12,120
Yeah. And I'm like I said, I agree with that. I'm totally happy to to.

1955
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,320
Facilitate that we can amend the resolution for something like that.

1956
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,880
I am of the.

1957
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:20,040
Perception, uh.

1958
01:51:20,770 --> 01:51:21,370
That.

1959
01:51:21,480 --> 01:51:25,480
These neighborhoods want safer streets immediately, so if that can't be achieved.

1960
01:51:27,390 --> 01:51:29,530
Does ticketing actually resolve their concern?

1961
01:51:30,940 --> 01:51:32,420
I can tell you.

1962
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:38,920
Like the reason I brought up the dots on the map is because we have been issuing tickets and if you've drive in from.

1963
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:43,493
Everything the deputies are telling me at night that parking is getting better. We're making a difference in those neighborhoods.

1964
01:51:43,493 --> 01:51:47,946
So we're getting some, we're getting some movement in the direction that the neighborhood tickets. By chance, do you track that?

1965
01:51:47,946 --> 01:51:52,399
Do you know the people are paying for the tickets by chance?

1966
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:56,260
If you have that, I don't have those numbers on these, they go to the justice. The county justice court goes that way. Most people

1967
01:51:56,260 --> 01:51:59,400
pay the tickets we give them.

1968
01:51:59,480 --> 01:52:07,800
Yeah, easy park. I don't know. I would, yes. It's better than 30% also anyway.

1969
01:52:09,290 --> 01:52:09,330
I.

1970
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:13,920
Change this so we would have some leeway.

1971
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:17,640
In in those circumstances, So I'm comfortable with unless mitigating circumstances, mitigating circumstances could be we knocked

1972
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:21,240
on the door that came out and moved their car.

1973
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:25,800
Yeah, yeah, sure. I like that. You know, I think that's that's reasonable if you want to.

1974
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:29,680
To bolster it even further to officer discretion, we could put, you know.

1975
01:52:30,630 --> 01:52:36,810
Within officer discretion, I never like to take discretion away from my guys and then I don't feel like this is taking that away.

1976
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:44,260
There's, I think there's very few laws on the books. There's very few laws on the books that tell us we shall do something. We

1977
01:52:44,260 --> 01:52:50,320
absolutely have to do it. Most of that, mostly it's domestic violence calls, which is obviously we all want that.

1978
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:52,480
Other than that.

1979
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:55,040
Our deputies and officers have discretion.

1980
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:58,800
Because circumstances are different for everything we come across. Sure.

1981
01:53:00,440 --> 01:53:02,840
Any other comments, counsel? Parker asked.

1982
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:04,520
Is there anyone in the audience?

1983
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:06,040
Like to speak to this.

1984
01:53:06,850 --> 01:53:09,730
Give us guidance in your all knowing wisdom, David.

1985
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:11,760
Daria. Come on. Well, Darius.

1986
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,240
Some speak for all the residents of Vineyard.

1987
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:22,360
I just have a couple little things, Daria Evans, Villas resident.

1988
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,480
It's just spelling.

1989
01:53:28,700 --> 01:53:29,860
The first paragraph.

1990
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,520
It says gardens it should read.

1991
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:38,400
Garden Thank you Diane. Would appreciate also section also Section 1 it.

1992
01:53:38,480 --> 01:53:41,480
It says gardens it should read the garden.

1993
01:53:42,210 --> 01:53:44,770
And in operation Neighborhood Shield.

1994
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:46,960
The paragraph beginning.

1995
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:48,040
With staff.

1996
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:53,040
Will review Vineyard City code with the City attorney and Chief Deputy Rockwell.

1997
01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:55,450
Your last name is Rockwell.

1998
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,160
It should not be.

1999
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:58,760
Chief Deputy Holden.

2000
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,800
To give him the property, to say his chief deputy, so whoever.

2001
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,680
Replaces it later on, but at this moment it's.

2002
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:11,240
It's Chief Deputy Rockwell. You can't leave Holden now. Yeah, well, and then.

2003
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:13,450
Phase Three.

2004
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:14,520
The last sentence.

2005
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:22,440
This phase allows for property owners an opportunity to correct violations voluntarily and for assess students.

2006
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:26,200
But I think we should change it to occupants, because we might not.

2007
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,560
Be students and that would limit.

2008
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:30,720
The scope if you just said students.

2009
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:32,880
So those are my suggestions.

2010
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:36,240
And also I like the idea of a full time.

2011
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:41,520
Code enforcement and then adding part-time enforcement as the city grows. Thank you very much.

2012
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,920
Can we accept those changes? Yeah, I think those are points well taken.

2013
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:47,480
Robbie grabbed those.

2014
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:50,840
If we did, OK, we don't have to word that out.

2015
01:54:52,330 --> 01:54:56,010
OK, sounds good. And then let me ask just Ezra real quick.

2016
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:56,760
With.

2017
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:58,960
Chief Deputy Rockwells.

2018
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:00,440
Amendments.

2019
01:55:01,540 --> 01:55:03,860
Does that alleviate your concern? OK.

2020
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:05,960
OK, my.

2021
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:07,600
My only comment is.

2022
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:10,240
I know we're ramping up from nothing.

2023
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:11,570
And I know that you don't want to go.

2024
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:14,200
Bam, like just shock everyone in tow.

2025
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,320
But I will say like.

2026
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:22,530
Get there within the next couple weeks of like I think it needs to be come a standard of towing.

2027
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,800
Like an expectation of like, hey, we've.

2028
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:27,800
We've given tickets we've.

2029
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:32,360
You know, given warnings like this is going to be a standard moving forward of.

2030
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,160
You know, stop signs and everything.

2031
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:40,760
It it it just should be known because we had hundreds of people that were here and when he.

2032
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:45,880
Suggested it they were. They're now expecting it because they are so excited.

2033
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,640
In fact, that in my all of my engagements, they're like.

2034
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,520
Towing is coming and and so let's give it to him.

2035
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:53,320
Yeah. Thank you.

2036
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:55,680
OK, I'm gonna call from.

2037
01:55:56,480 --> 01:56:02,200
You're we only gonna vote on 8.2 and not 8.5 because I had some comments 8.2 just we're gonna put 8.2 Okay yeah 8.2 so I'm gonna

2038
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:07,920
call for vote on 8.2. Do I have a motion?

2039
01:56:09,850 --> 01:56:11,730
I motion to accept.

2040
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:16,040
Resolution 2026-19 in support of parking enforcement.

2041
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:17,240
As.

2042
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:18,080
Amended.

2043
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:19,720
Thank you. Awesome.

2044
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:22,280
We will do this by roll call.

2045
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,240
Hi, David Luray.

2046
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,920
Hi, Jacob Wood, I'm Jake.

2047
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:29,720
Aye, Parker, aye.

2048
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:34,240
Awesome. Resolution passes. That's Councilman Mccumber. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, whatever.

2049
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:37,680
We keep it informal around here.

2050
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:42,180
Not Parker until. Can I start with the neighborhood Commission? 10 more minutes. Yeah, let's do this. I need to. We are needing

2051
01:56:42,180 --> 01:56:46,320
to.

2052
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:50,160
OK, let's do 8.3 real quick because this.

2053
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:51,440
Have a little bit of.

2054
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:53,680
DK will use.

2055
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:55,120
David, we.

2056
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,160
Kyle, would you explain 8.3?

2057
01:56:57,880 --> 01:56:59,320
To the Council.

2058
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,840
And to the public real quick, where what the intent is here?

2059
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:07,680
So this is the intent is to encourage volunteerism throughout the city.

2060
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:09,720
And to make.

2061
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:11,040
Or to help.

2062
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:14,200
Vineyard events be more community driven.

2063
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:15,560
Versus city driven?

2064
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:17,520
This creates a.

2065
01:57:18,900 --> 01:57:23,650
A Commission that will oversee and and base and base.

2066
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:28,360
Recruit other volunteers and oversee other volunteers to be able to.

2067
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:31,000
Work on Vineyard days.

2068
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:33,320
The tree lighting Christmas.

2069
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:37,560
All, all of the fun events and activities that we do throughout the city.

2070
01:57:38,330 --> 01:57:39,490
Walk us through.

2071
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,200
We feel a nonprofit is.

2072
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:43,600
Needed here for.

2073
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:47,400
Tax purposes for the cell, donations and so forth, so.

2074
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:49,400
This is as.

2075
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:51,410
I've worked with other cities.

2076
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:52,680
Who have?

2077
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:55,360
Who have similar structures?

2078
01:57:56,240 --> 01:58:00,080
Provo has an event nonprofit. They actually branched off from the city and and that's the Freedom Festival. They're now completely

2079
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:03,920
independent.

2080
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:05,520
Orem has.

2081
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:12,760
And the Orem Community Foundation, and not only does that Community Foundation help with.

2082
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,080
Their Orem fest, but it also.

2083
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:19,320
Is currently raising money for their.

2084
01:58:20,650 --> 01:58:21,970
Monument to.

2085
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:24,280
The fallen soldiers.

2086
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:26,480
So Gold Star.

2087
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:31,800
Yeah, yeah, the Gold Star Memorial. And so this the the nonprofit.

2088
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:38,600
This mission will be to support financially raise money for city events.

2089
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:42,720
And city initiatives and what's great about it is that.

2090
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:47,680
Donors can receive certificate for write off.

2091
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:49,250
On their taxes.

2092
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:50,960
OK, would the intent be?

2093
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,360
Sorry, no, go ahead please. Would the intent be that?

2094
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:55,680
One day, the mayor wouldn't chair it, but it would.

2095
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:56,800
It would separate off.

2096
01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:01,120
Is this? I don't think that's the ultimate intent. Some.

2097
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:03,280
Do some don't or has never?

2098
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:07,690
But this doesn't spell out. Provo did just because.

2099
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:09,480
The Freedom Festival had be.

2100
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:13,720
Kind of came of a life of its own right, and so they just split away.

2101
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:14,680
Yeah, OK.

2102
01:59:15,770 --> 01:59:16,290
Great.

2103
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,130
Any questions on 8.3?

2104
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,080
Well, is there any conflict with?

2105
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,680
A city sponsored.

2106
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:25,640
Commission.

2107
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:26,650
Also.

2108
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:27,720
Running.

2109
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:28,760
A non profit.

2110
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:31,880
No cities run non pro profits.

2111
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:32,880
Quite often.

2112
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:34,210
To help.

2113
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:35,920
With the tax status.

2114
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:41,160
The city itself is a nonprofit, right? So they don't. No, it's a government entity, so there's no.

2115
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:47,240
Paying your taxes or paying money to a city is different for tax purposes, so cities do set up nonprofits quite often.

2116
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:50,360
Just a separate bank account of like who you're giving the money to.

2117
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:54,000
And it has a different organizational correct, it is similar.

2118
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:56,080
To that and there are tax benefits to it.

2119
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:56,800
Correct.

2120
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,640
Yeah. Any other questions?

2121
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,000
Ezra, you had a question last.

2122
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:04,400
Tuesday.

2123
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:07,700
It was the reason we continued it to this week instead of voting on it last week. I can't remember what it is and I'm trying to

2124
02:00:07,700 --> 02:00:10,800
dig through my notes but.

2125
02:00:12,970 --> 02:00:18,330
Yes, so the the nonprofit versus the Commission, so we're.

2126
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:20,240
There's two different.

2127
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:22,760
Parts of this resolution 1 is.

2128
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:23,600
Kind of a.

2129
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:28,200
Commission similar to our arch Commission or our.

2130
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:33,000
What other commissions do we have? We've got Bissell Advisory Commission.

2131
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:34,640
Some of those other commissions that.

2132
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:38,050
Run by the city. Operated by the city.

2133
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:39,760
Then you have.

2134
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:42,680
This direction to create a nonprofit.

2135
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:46,360
That's going to be a separate entity from the city.

2136
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:47,680
That.

2137
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:49,400
Is run.

2138
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:50,760
By whom?

2139
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:57,120
So the Commission will actually oversee the running of the nonprofit.

2140
02:00:58,700 --> 02:00:59,490
The actual.

2141
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:00,520
Legal, uh.

2142
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:03,120
And how it works legally, that's a.

2143
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:05,560
That's a really a Jesse question I ran.

2144
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:06,560
I ran it past.

2145
02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:10,800
The resolution passed Jesse and and and asked to.

2146
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:12,960
A few questions related.

2147
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:18,400
But really, it's to basically keep the nonprofit attached to the city and keep some oversight.

2148
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:21,520
Because it is the official nonprofit of the city.

2149
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:22,560
But also.

2150
02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:27,640
This model is basically I.

2151
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:31,080
Modeled it after what Orem is already doing.

2152
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:32,520
So it.

2153
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:33,840
I felt pretty safe.

2154
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:35,800
In the direction we were going.

2155
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:36,560
So.

2156
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:39,720
The So the mayor would still be the.

2157
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:41,560
Head of the entity for now.

2158
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:44,280
For now, yeah, I mean that.

2159
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:45,400
Was the idea.

2160
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:46,800
OK, so.

2161
02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:49,000
So the mayor is the head.

2162
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:52,240
The Commission is the.

2163
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:54,680
Board. The seven member commissions. The Board.

2164
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:59,000
And the council? The mayor?

2165
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:03,720
The mayor appoints a chair. So from, well, the resolution, as it read last week, was that the mayor.

2166
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:07,360
Brings recommendations and they're appointed by the council.

2167
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:11,040
So we would vote on all of the appointees to be on the Advisory Board.

2168
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:13,040
Yeah, here it says. The mayor's gonna.

2169
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:15,240
Designated Chair of the Commission.

2170
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:17,160
So the mayor is not.

2171
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:18,360
On the.

2172
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:20,200
Foundation.

2173
02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:23,280
As a we would not be able to, yeah, correct the mayor.

2174
02:02:23,990 --> 02:02:29,430
The Commission points the Commission, and that Commission is the Board of the Foundation because.

2175
02:02:29,630 --> 02:02:31,750
Comprises the the board of the Foundation.

2176
02:02:31,870 --> 02:02:35,750
OK. Do we have a charter for the foundation already?

2177
02:02:36,110 --> 02:02:37,670
No, that's to be drawn up.

2178
02:02:38,390 --> 02:02:40,830
And it'll have to be submitted to the IRS for approval.

2179
02:02:41,230 --> 02:02:41,430
Yeah.

2180
02:02:43,430 --> 02:02:45,110
So what is this action?

2181
02:02:45,670 --> 02:02:49,480
Here doing right now, is it basically saying go ahead and explore this idea?

2182
02:02:49,590 --> 02:02:53,390
And then you'll bring us a charter. Who? The president? The treasurer?

2183
02:02:53,550 --> 02:02:59,610
All those things in and then we as a council can officially take action to create this nonprofit. My understanding it's

2184
02:02:59,610 --> 02:03:05,670
authorizing the creation, which would necessitate that they write the charter, they submit it to the IRS, but then.

2185
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:08,070
All of the appointees would come to us for vote.

2186
02:03:09,210 --> 02:03:13,010
Who is they writing the charter? If the that would be our committee.

2187
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:15,200
Your internal team.

2188
02:03:15,510 --> 02:03:16,910
He said that the attorney.

2189
02:03:17,030 --> 02:03:17,910
The attorney OK.

2190
02:03:19,490 --> 02:03:20,960
Jesse, do you feel good with this?

2191
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:26,040
This is to facilitate the creation of a nonprofit. It's like to start to begin the Commission. Yes, what I would.

2192
02:03:26,150 --> 02:03:30,630
You know his model after ASD or Orem City or?

2193
02:03:30,790 --> 02:03:32,670
Provo or other entities so.

2194
02:03:32,950 --> 02:03:33,870
Some of your.

2195
02:03:33,950 --> 02:03:35,710
Questions are quite technical.

2196
02:03:36,910 --> 02:03:39,230
Nonprofits can be set up in a.

2197
02:03:40,030 --> 02:03:44,270
And loosely the way that you would want them to set up, but I would give you examples of how others were.

2198
02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:46,350
Would be set up, but I'm comfortable.

2199
02:03:46,590 --> 02:03:48,270
Going forward with the creation.

2200
02:03:48,550 --> 02:03:51,830
And then as we move forward, we can do other resolutions as to how.

2201
02:03:52,190 --> 02:03:53,270
Is going to be.

2202
02:03:53,390 --> 02:03:55,390
LED what the leadership looks like.

2203
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:58,000
And how people are appointed.

2204
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:00,640
So this is just a started.

2205
02:04:02,910 --> 02:04:06,310
Yeah, I'm great with the framework. I would just love to know.

2206
02:04:06,630 --> 02:04:07,990
To kind of firm up.

2207
02:04:08,470 --> 02:04:11,550
Making sure we have kind of all the documents in place of.

2208
02:04:11,950 --> 02:04:14,935
What exactly the mission is? What can they collect money for? What can't they collect money for? Just have that all outlined

2209
02:04:14,935 --> 02:04:17,920
before.

2210
02:04:18,350 --> 02:04:20,150
Giving just like carte blanche.

2211
02:04:20,710 --> 02:04:22,350
Go create a nonprofit for.

2212
02:04:22,470 --> 02:04:27,830
Israel, if you heard the end of what Jesse was saying, because you started talking while he was still talking.

2213
02:04:28,030 --> 02:04:30,310
But what he said was this essentially gives you.

2214
02:04:30,430 --> 02:04:32,990
The permission to get started and then we would create.

2215
02:04:33,070 --> 02:04:35,630
Codes or additional resolutions to.

2216
02:04:35,750 --> 02:04:37,350
Address all of those things.

2217
02:04:37,830 --> 02:04:42,710
It doesn't say it creates us to facilitate the creation of, so it's a place to start. It's just the start.

2218
02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:47,550
Yeah, and that is what I understood, Mr. Riddle to just clarify.

2219
02:04:48,570 --> 02:04:49,290
We just need to.

2220
02:04:50,030 --> 02:04:52,230
Davis, Jesse was talking about.

2221
02:04:53,940 --> 02:04:54,820
David Pierce.

2222
02:04:56,310 --> 02:05:00,590
Mr. Mayor, kind of have to agree with Ezra on.

2223
02:05:00,830 --> 02:05:04,670
On the issue of definitions, because the definitions.

2224
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:11,080
Affect the Commission itself.

2225
02:05:11,270 --> 02:05:12,750
Not the nonprofit.

2226
02:05:12,950 --> 02:05:17,910
Profit The nonprofit should have the definitions of what it supports and what it.

2227
02:05:17,990 --> 02:05:19,670
What it doesn't support?

2228
02:05:20,150 --> 02:05:22,150
But I think in Section 2.

2229
02:05:22,390 --> 02:05:23,750
The purpose?

2230
02:05:24,530 --> 02:05:27,720
More sharply defined instead of just giving a couple.

2231
02:05:27,910 --> 02:05:29,950
Of examples for instance.

2232
02:05:30,390 --> 02:05:34,230
As a community event is a discrete event.

2233
02:05:34,310 --> 02:05:37,830
What time restrictions from here to here it's.

2234
02:05:38,070 --> 02:05:39,110
No longer.

2235
02:05:39,750 --> 02:05:43,190
Then you know, then a week or.

2236
02:05:43,350 --> 02:05:44,430
Or whatever.

2237
02:05:45,230 --> 02:05:49,550
The condition set, but that I think that should be more closely defined.

2238
02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:55,000
Maybe if I could offer a suggestion so in Section 5.

2239
02:05:55,550 --> 02:06:00,390
Rather than saying the Commission is hereby authorized with oversight from the Marin City Council.

2240
02:06:00,710 --> 02:06:02,270
To facilitate the creation.

2241
02:06:02,710 --> 02:06:03,350
That.

2242
02:06:05,630 --> 02:06:08,950
We change that so that the City Council and the mayor are.

2243
02:06:10,740 --> 02:06:15,920
Facility facilitating the creation or creating it with the support of the Commission or something like that.

2244
02:06:16,950 --> 02:06:19,310
I actually like.

2245
02:06:19,750 --> 02:06:24,040
I actually like that it's a Commission of people because it creates.

2246
02:06:25,950 --> 02:06:30,590
That's a lot of just where I'm going to sit down and think about how to create a nonprofit. I think you can get.

2247
02:06:31,030 --> 02:06:32,150
David Pearce and.

2248
02:06:32,550 --> 02:06:38,040
Just I would just recommend to the mayor, just get a wide swath of people that just say.

2249
02:06:38,150 --> 02:06:41,430
Who want to be involved in this, but that we come back and approve.

2250
02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:44,910
Like we're the approving entity before anything happens, if that makes sense.

2251
02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:49,990
Just Jesse had a comment. I'm gonna turn the mic over to Jesse. Go ahead, Mr. Riddle.

2252
02:06:50,910 --> 02:06:51,710
Again, I think.

2253
02:06:52,590 --> 02:06:54,750
We're at the inception of a process.

2254
02:06:55,190 --> 02:06:56,790
And the way I would.

2255
02:06:57,150 --> 02:06:59,630
Start the process is go and review.

2256
02:06:59,990 --> 02:07:02,870
What other entities have done I would talk to.

2257
02:07:03,150 --> 02:07:05,230
For example, Orem city attorney and.

2258
02:07:05,750 --> 02:07:08,230
Maybe ASD's attorney. I know of both and.

2259
02:07:08,750 --> 02:07:12,430
Ask them how they run it, how they operate it, who's on their board.

2260
02:07:12,750 --> 02:07:13,710
And things of that.

2261
02:07:14,550 --> 02:07:15,430
I haven't paid much.

2262
02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:17,790
Attention to the Commission part of this.

2263
02:07:17,870 --> 02:07:18,630
I've just been.

2264
02:07:18,790 --> 02:07:21,910
Mostly focusing on the nonprofit. I hope that's helpful.

2265
02:07:22,910 --> 02:07:24,830
That's super helpful. I I would.

2266
02:07:24,910 --> 02:07:25,830
Support uh.

2267
02:07:25,910 --> 02:07:27,870
Kind of doing a little bit more research on that.

2268
02:07:28,270 --> 02:07:31,670
And trying to gather some of those structures. I just want to make sure.

2269
02:07:31,790 --> 02:07:33,590
Like this is going to be something that.

2270
02:07:34,850 --> 02:07:37,000
Outlast all of us here.

2271
02:07:37,990 --> 02:07:40,710
If done properly and so I just want to make sure we're.

2272
02:07:41,190 --> 02:07:42,990
Being deliberate about what we're doing here.

2273
02:07:43,070 --> 02:07:46,470
And I'd like to also adjust the wording of Section 5 to say, you know.

2274
02:07:46,590 --> 02:07:48,910
The mayor and the City Council directs.

2275
02:07:49,030 --> 02:07:49,910
The Commission.

2276
02:07:51,430 --> 02:07:54,390
To facilitate creation and so forth. So we retain.

2277
02:07:54,550 --> 02:07:56,710
You know the control in the Council.

2278
02:07:57,150 --> 02:08:00,230
He said so the council directs.

2279
02:08:00,630 --> 02:08:01,790
The Commission to.

2280
02:08:02,190 --> 02:08:03,070
As opposed to.

2281
02:08:03,150 --> 02:08:08,600
We were authorizing to go off and do it. So it becomes they become authorized. We don't limit the authorization.

2282
02:08:08,750 --> 02:08:13,430
Well, it does specify with oversight from the mayor and council. It does say oversight. Yes, it says.

2283
02:08:13,670 --> 02:08:16,750
The Commission is hereby authorized, with oversight from the mayor and council, to facilitate the creation of a nonprofit

2284
02:08:16,750 --> 02:08:19,830
organization.

2285
02:08:20,030 --> 02:08:24,310
To be known as the Vineyard Community Foundation, is that the same thing as directing them?

2286
02:08:24,430 --> 02:08:25,750
And then retain that.

2287
02:08:25,870 --> 02:08:27,950
Authority as a question for Mr. Riddle.

2288
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:34,240
Authorizing direct director.

2289
02:08:34,950 --> 02:08:35,950
A little bit different.

2290
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:39,830
When you give me the authority, the other one, you tell me exactly what to do.

2291
02:08:41,380 --> 02:08:42,600
And maybe where to go?

2292
02:08:43,630 --> 02:08:47,190
I guess my question on it then is we're authorizing a Commission.

2293
02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:50,280
To create a nonprofit, but we don't have a Commission.

2294
02:08:51,950 --> 02:08:54,080
But we're creating the Commission with this, right?

2295
02:08:55,810 --> 02:08:59,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah. More or less. I mean, it's why don't you change it?

2296
02:08:59,150 --> 02:09:01,310
To authorize the mayor to do it.

2297
02:09:01,430 --> 02:09:02,030
Because I.

2298
02:09:02,350 --> 02:09:03,640
Report to the mayor.

2299
02:09:04,310 --> 02:09:07,630
So just authorize the mayor to create a nonprofit.

2300
02:09:08,030 --> 02:09:10,230
And then he can authorize me to.

2301
02:09:11,010 --> 02:09:12,040
Do that task.

2302
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:16,960
So we'd be just separating out the creation of the nonprofit from the Commission.

2303
02:09:18,050 --> 02:09:18,650
Correct.

2304
02:09:19,150 --> 02:09:19,750
I would.

2305
02:09:21,030 --> 02:09:22,110
Yes, yeah.

2306
02:09:22,310 --> 02:09:23,200
I'd be good with that.

2307
02:09:23,510 --> 02:09:24,590
OK. Yeah, me too. Yeah.

2308
02:09:25,600 --> 02:09:26,240
Awesome.

2309
02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:28,240
I can support that.

2310
02:09:28,870 --> 02:09:32,270
OK. We're transferring alignment.

2311
02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:33,550
One of my comment.

2312
02:09:34,710 --> 02:09:35,790
I do have.

2313
02:09:37,190 --> 02:09:40,070
Just a question.

2314
02:09:42,070 --> 02:09:43,590
You're going to appoint.

2315
02:09:43,950 --> 02:09:45,550
The mayor is going to appoint.

2316
02:09:46,230 --> 02:09:47,830
The Chairman of the Commission.

2317
02:09:49,430 --> 02:09:50,750
I don't have.

2318
02:09:50,830 --> 02:09:53,110
Myself personally a problem with that.

2319
02:09:55,910 --> 02:09:57,790
City code tends to have.

2320
02:09:57,870 --> 02:10:03,030
Commission's councils and boards select their own leadership Chairman, Vice Chair.

2321
02:10:03,110 --> 02:10:04,110
Secretary.

2322
02:10:05,870 --> 02:10:07,270
Just curious stuff.

2323
02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:09,840
Why that is?

2324
02:10:10,730 --> 02:10:14,810
Selecting the chair and again why the mail have any issue with that?

2325
02:10:15,150 --> 02:10:17,710
Why? It's in the past of the mayor selects the chair.

2326
02:10:19,230 --> 02:10:19,750
Yeah.

2327
02:10:20,430 --> 02:10:22,550
I might remember it was really controversial.

2328
02:10:22,670 --> 02:10:24,110
Five or six years ago, I.

2329
02:10:25,190 --> 02:10:27,230
Yeah, the mayor retained that power.

2330
02:10:27,590 --> 02:10:29,510
I I see wisdom and.

2331
02:10:30,590 --> 02:10:31,790
But that's how it's been.

2332
02:10:33,090 --> 02:10:34,320
I don't think that's his.

2333
02:10:35,270 --> 02:10:38,630
How it was always been and it's probably could be looked into.

2334
02:10:38,710 --> 02:10:39,390
Yeah, but.

2335
02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:43,870
I think something's always been done a certain way, doesn't mean it's too much change.

2336
02:10:44,710 --> 02:10:48,790
What you're saying is your post Commission. Post commissions, they choose their own chairs.

2337
02:10:48,990 --> 02:10:51,150
Of this yeah code.

2338
02:10:51,590 --> 02:10:53,550
Yeah, and again, I.

2339
02:10:53,950 --> 02:10:56,390
Personally I don't have an issue with that, but.

2340
02:10:56,470 --> 02:11:00,695
And I, I like this the norm. So I'm just curious because you already have that the Commission's going to consist of the seven

2341
02:11:00,695 --> 02:11:04,920
members. They're going to be.

2342
02:11:05,470 --> 02:11:08,750
Appointed by the mayor with the advice and consent of the City Council, which means all of those people come to the council for a

2343
02:11:08,750 --> 02:11:12,030
vote.

2344
02:11:12,810 --> 02:11:13,880
Let those people.

2345
02:11:13,990 --> 02:11:17,760
Will elect their own leadership. That's fine with me. If you guys are good with that, I like that.

2346
02:11:17,870 --> 02:11:23,070
Sorry. It's a point well taken. I think, David, appreciate it. So it makes it improves it though? Yeah, it does, yeah.

2347
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:24,710
Give them ownership and.

2348
02:11:24,830 --> 02:11:25,830
And maybe.

2349
02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:28,470
To help solve some of the leadership issues.

2350
02:11:28,750 --> 02:11:31,030
Have a member of the City Council.

2351
02:11:31,110 --> 02:11:32,550
As one of the but.

2352
02:11:32,830 --> 02:11:33,630
Members.

2353
02:11:34,430 --> 02:11:37,150
Of the Commission, something like that, Yeah, there's kind of.

2354
02:11:37,970 --> 02:11:40,130
Yeah, make sure it's moving along and so forth.

2355
02:11:41,790 --> 02:11:42,270
OK, OK.

2356
02:11:42,710 --> 02:11:45,070
Are we in the point where I can call? I can support it, yeah.

2357
02:11:46,030 --> 02:11:46,670
Real quick.

2358
02:11:46,790 --> 02:11:49,950
So as part of starting the the nonprofit piece.

2359
02:11:50,990 --> 02:11:52,870
As you, the mayor.

2360
02:11:52,990 --> 02:11:54,440
Taking charge of creating it.

2361
02:11:54,630 --> 02:11:59,190
Will you bring that charter back to the City Council for a vote, or will the Commission adopt the charter?

2362
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:01,040
What it what?

2363
02:12:01,190 --> 02:12:06,430
That's council want me to do. I would love to have the council adopt the charter just so we can make sure.

2364
02:12:06,550 --> 02:12:13,510
We're not opening a can of worms and having to spin off into spring it into who knows what, some Frankenstein who knows what.

2365
02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:14,800
20 years down the road.

2366
02:12:15,150 --> 02:12:17,150
Yep, I can. I can support that.

2367
02:12:17,830 --> 02:12:19,150
OK, happy to do that.

2368
02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:25,440
OK, this is going to be a Franken resolution, and you know it's coming all right.

2369
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:26,520
All right, so we're going to How about this?

2370
02:12:27,270 --> 02:12:29,430
Who? Who feels comfortable making a motion?

2371
02:12:36,030 --> 02:12:38,280
I move to adopt resolution.

2372
02:12:38,710 --> 02:12:43,550
2026-20 to form a community events nonprofit.

2373
02:12:43,990 --> 02:12:45,430
With the amendments.

2374
02:12:46,420 --> 02:12:47,960
That the mayor.

2375
02:12:48,110 --> 02:12:50,310
Will direct the creation of a nonprofit.

2376
02:12:50,990 --> 02:12:52,160
The Commission.

2377
02:12:52,790 --> 02:12:55,430
Will come back to the City Council for a vote.

2378
02:12:56,590 --> 02:12:59,150
The members appointed by the mayor.

2379
02:12:59,630 --> 02:13:04,400
Will serve under the advice and consent of the City Council with a vote.

2380
02:13:05,930 --> 02:13:08,010
And an amendment that.

2381
02:13:08,870 --> 02:13:12,750
The Commission will elect its own chairperson.

2382
02:13:12,830 --> 02:13:13,630
And Vice Chair.

2383
02:13:13,750 --> 02:13:14,510
And Vice Chair.

2384
02:13:15,500 --> 02:13:16,880
Awesome, do I have a second?

2385
02:13:17,350 --> 02:13:19,510
Second, all right, let's do roll call.

2386
02:13:20,030 --> 02:13:20,670
Parker.

2387
02:13:20,830 --> 02:13:22,950
Hi, Jake, Jacob, I.

2388
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:24,670
David, hi.

2389
02:13:25,030 --> 02:13:26,030
And Ezra?

2390
02:13:26,110 --> 02:13:26,910
Aye, OK.

2391
02:13:27,790 --> 02:13:29,120
Resolution passes.

2392
02:13:29,350 --> 02:13:30,430
As amended.

2393
02:13:31,650 --> 02:13:35,360
OK, jumping down to 8.5.

2394
02:13:36,110 --> 02:13:39,750
It is 805. We can go ahead and skip that. That's not it.

2395
02:13:40,310 --> 02:13:42,630
Put on the agenda, but it's not a resolution.

2396
02:13:42,750 --> 02:13:44,150
OK, so so.

2397
02:13:44,590 --> 02:13:45,830
Perhaps what we should do is.

2398
02:13:45,950 --> 02:13:49,470
Turn this into a work session. Should we do that? Turn this into work session item.

2399
02:13:51,100 --> 02:13:54,660
Do you want to continue it? We need to vote on 8.4 though, right?

2400
02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:58,350
5 minutes past 88.4 is nothing to vote on.

2401
02:13:59,710 --> 02:14:00,910
8.5.

2402
02:14:01,550 --> 02:14:02,630
8.4.

2403
02:14:03,350 --> 02:14:05,070
Sorry, it's not a resolution.

2404
02:14:05,970 --> 02:14:07,360
It's just we're not going to vote on it.

2405
02:14:07,470 --> 02:14:10,200
Do it. It's not it's it's I'm sorry.

2406
02:14:10,310 --> 02:14:13,150
It was a work session document. Yeah, OK.

2407
02:14:13,790 --> 02:14:15,270
So we don't need to talk about.

2408
02:14:15,950 --> 02:14:17,830
OK. And we're done.

2409
02:14:18,070 --> 02:14:19,190
8.5.

2410
02:14:20,070 --> 02:14:22,550
8.4 is being moved to the work.

2411
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:25,000
No 8.4.

2412
02:14:25,070 --> 02:14:28,530
Was accidentally left on here is what correct. Yes, that's it was that's something that we discussed at both of the previous two

2413
02:14:28,530 --> 02:14:31,990
council meetings.

2414
02:14:32,390 --> 02:14:34,950
Really. Three Do we need Thursday? Specialty voted on it.

2415
02:14:35,310 --> 02:14:38,350
No, no, it's administrative action. Oh, I see.

2416
02:14:38,910 --> 02:14:40,910
Because it was not a resolution item.

2417
02:14:41,030 --> 02:14:43,150
2 Mr. Pierce has a.

2418
02:14:43,350 --> 02:14:45,670
Question or comment, Mayor David, please.

2419
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:48,720
Come on up, Sir.

2420
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:57,040
Excuse me?

2421
02:14:57,470 --> 02:14:58,990
I lost my page here.

2422
02:15:04,350 --> 02:15:06,630
You mentioned the name of an employee.

2423
02:15:06,910 --> 02:15:08,990
On the code enforcement staffing.

2424
02:15:09,670 --> 02:15:11,440
And I'm not sure.

2425
02:15:11,670 --> 02:15:13,110
That's germane.

2426
02:15:14,090 --> 02:15:14,730
To the.

2427
02:15:16,170 --> 02:15:17,680
To the subject of.

2428
02:15:18,270 --> 02:15:19,390
The document.

2429
02:15:19,670 --> 02:15:20,630
And I'm.

2430
02:15:20,830 --> 02:15:23,310
Personally not sure that's appropriate.

2431
02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:24,790
To mention the name.

2432
02:15:24,950 --> 02:15:27,430
Of a specific employee.

2433
02:15:28,150 --> 02:15:29,470
Especially.

2434
02:15:29,910 --> 02:15:30,590
From.

2435
02:15:30,710 --> 02:15:32,030
The point of view.

2436
02:15:32,190 --> 02:15:34,550
That it almost seems like it's.

2437
02:15:34,790 --> 02:15:36,670
This employee's fault.

2438
02:15:37,740 --> 02:15:39,320
That there is an issue.

2439
02:15:40,550 --> 02:15:42,630
Well, I I would ask that.

2440
02:15:43,110 --> 02:15:45,510
Do we know what page that paragraph one?

2441
02:15:45,910 --> 02:15:47,070
Would be stricken.

2442
02:15:48,190 --> 02:15:49,190
And the word.

2443
02:15:50,860 --> 02:15:52,540
Her departure create.

2444
02:15:53,350 --> 02:15:57,530
OK. Thank you. Good catch. That was not the intent, but thank you for catching that, bringing that to our attention. It's on page

2445
02:15:57,530 --> 02:16:01,710
46 in the packet.

2446
02:16:01,910 --> 02:16:03,510
OK. Thank you, David.

2447
02:16:04,390 --> 02:16:05,990
Be done. I have one comment.

2448
02:16:06,110 --> 02:16:07,430
Yeah, let's do one comment.

2449
02:16:07,510 --> 02:16:08,270
Here.

2450
02:16:08,870 --> 02:16:09,630
I think we need.

2451
02:16:09,710 --> 02:16:10,590
Before.

2452
02:16:10,790 --> 02:16:13,230
Well, let's do What are we going to do with 8.5?

2453
02:16:13,910 --> 02:16:17,790
So 8.4 was whatever, 8.5 what would you?

2454
02:16:17,950 --> 02:16:21,280
What would you like to do? Is that ready 8.5?

2455
02:16:21,630 --> 02:16:26,070
I have some issues with 8.5. My sense with 8.5 is it would be best to.

2456
02:16:26,470 --> 02:16:27,880
Move that to work session.

2457
02:16:28,030 --> 02:16:29,030
I know, right?

2458
02:16:29,630 --> 02:16:33,430
But you guys decide my my comment on it is.

2459
02:16:33,510 --> 02:16:38,990
What a wonderful thing that happened last week where neighborhoods got together. I don't know about your work group.

2460
02:16:39,390 --> 02:16:40,590
But our neighborhood.

2461
02:16:41,190 --> 02:16:41,750
You know.

2462
02:16:43,230 --> 02:16:44,710
Office smelling like pot.

2463
02:16:46,350 --> 02:16:47,670
They all came together.

2464
02:16:48,070 --> 02:16:54,230
And we said, who should be your leader and who can unite and find consensus?

2465
02:16:54,670 --> 02:17:02,710
And bring two parties together to find a resolution. And I think in our meeting the the conversation changed. It wasn't.

2466
02:17:03,150 --> 02:17:05,230
I'm petitioning to get what I want.

2467
02:17:05,470 --> 02:17:07,510
Fighting someone else that they want.

2468
02:17:07,950 --> 02:17:11,150
And so I think on creating a neighborhood Commission.

2469
02:17:11,510 --> 02:17:12,630
I think the wording could.

2470
02:17:12,710 --> 02:17:15,390
Be improved and we could do a work session on it.

2471
02:17:15,910 --> 02:17:21,060
Helping them solve their own problems, helping find unity. And I think we've gotten so much respect and that's probably why they

2472
02:17:21,060 --> 02:17:26,210
slowed down and took so much time to find consensus. I don't know how you can word that, but like, I don't like the idea of coming

2473
02:17:26,210 --> 02:17:31,360
in.

2474
02:17:31,790 --> 02:17:37,550
Having like a political appointee from like either us or the mayor of like picking someone because it's so.

2475
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:41,150
Beautiful of what we saw where?

2476
02:17:41,910 --> 02:17:42,870
Straight to jail.

2477
02:17:43,030 --> 02:17:44,550
You know, who do you want? You know?

2478
02:17:44,750 --> 02:17:46,430
So I think that's.

2479
02:17:46,590 --> 02:17:49,070
I don't know how you put that into a document. I I think I.

2480
02:17:49,430 --> 02:17:51,470
Mayor I move with that we.

2481
02:17:51,630 --> 02:17:55,710
Continue item 8.5. Yeah, just wait till the next appropriate work session.

2482
02:17:55,790 --> 02:17:56,350
Thank you.

2483
02:17:57,910 --> 02:17:59,630
Zero second, I'll second that.

2484
02:18:00,110 --> 02:18:01,870
Do we have a second by Council?

2485
02:18:03,870 --> 02:18:05,710
Councilman Wood? You seconded.

2486
02:18:05,950 --> 02:18:08,230
So would that just be April 7th just for clarity?

2487
02:18:08,310 --> 02:18:13,950
Or what day is that? I am concerned that it doesn't necessarily need to be continued and it can be killed.

2488
02:18:14,590 --> 02:18:15,430
It could be.

2489
02:18:16,350 --> 02:18:19,750
Well, no. Some of these groups are going to come before us and they need to.

2490
02:18:19,910 --> 02:18:23,950
Yes, elect their leaders and stuff in the next couple weeks, but that is not necessarily the same thing as creating the neighbor

2491
02:18:23,950 --> 02:18:27,990
correct mission previously.

2492
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:28,990
Presented uh.

2493
02:18:29,070 --> 02:18:30,470
And IA lot.

2494
02:18:30,550 --> 02:18:34,070
All of the conversations that I've had with residents around the neighborhood Commission is.

2495
02:18:34,830 --> 02:18:37,915
A concern about it just being an added layer of bureaucracy that's unnecessary. And the reality is that we talked about this

2496
02:18:37,915 --> 02:18:41,000
previously.

2497
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:44,550
And these these people are still going to come to the City Council if they want to come to the City Council. So what purpose does

2498
02:18:44,550 --> 02:18:47,910
it actually serve? And.

2499
02:18:47,990 --> 02:18:51,150
We have a good idea of what we want it to accomplish.

2500
02:18:51,510 --> 02:18:56,070
But I don't think there's community buy in to want to see that happen or to participate in it.

2501
02:18:56,720 --> 02:19:02,880
Seems to me we need we need to fix it because right now we don't have honest representation there that whoever comes, comes right.

2502
02:19:03,310 --> 02:19:07,190
And I think we need to go back to something like the traffic calming.

2503
02:19:07,710 --> 02:19:09,830
Process that we already have in code.

2504
02:19:09,950 --> 02:19:13,550
That allows residents to gather signatures.

2505
02:19:13,670 --> 02:19:15,150
And to go for certain percentages.

2506
02:19:15,230 --> 02:19:18,230
I would think that if we if we want to modify the the.

2507
02:19:18,990 --> 02:19:20,070
Acceptable signature.

2508
02:19:20,190 --> 02:19:25,910
Level from 75% exciting to down to something more like 60% or 50 even 51%.

2509
02:19:26,230 --> 02:19:27,830
Then you know we can at least get.

2510
02:19:28,550 --> 02:19:33,390
You know, make sure we have honest representation that does represent that group.

2511
02:19:33,590 --> 02:19:34,150
As a whole.

2512
02:19:36,030 --> 02:19:37,270
Not just a lot of this guy, yeah.

2513
02:19:37,390 --> 02:19:39,910
I'm with Parker on this one, I think.

2514
02:19:40,510 --> 02:19:41,550
There's certain.

2515
02:19:41,790 --> 02:19:43,510
Situations where we need to.

2516
02:19:43,910 --> 02:19:47,590
Look at potentially not just doing things by the majority especially in the cheminat were.

2517
02:19:47,790 --> 02:19:51,590
We've already got 56% as of December 2024.

2518
02:19:51,670 --> 02:19:54,070
Of the households that are rental units and so it.

2519
02:19:54,150 --> 02:19:55,030
That's really what.

2520
02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:58,990
In my in my mind spurred this discussion in the 1st place, recognizing that.

2521
02:19:59,350 --> 02:20:00,750
Having these kind of blanket.

2522
02:20:01,750 --> 02:20:06,600
You have to get this many signatures, you have to do this percentage of things. It makes it really difficult to.

2523
02:20:06,990 --> 02:20:11,880
Be able to craft good policy in a unique way that's kind of tailored to the needs of the community? Sure.

2524
02:20:12,810 --> 02:20:14,480
So we had a motion on the table.

2525
02:20:14,630 --> 02:20:16,310
To continue it.

2526
02:20:16,630 --> 02:20:18,870
Continuously, yeah. And seconded.

2527
02:20:19,230 --> 02:20:21,870
OK. So you're asking to amend?

2528
02:20:22,030 --> 02:20:23,390
To amend it to amendment.

2529
02:20:24,550 --> 02:20:26,110
My thought was.

2530
02:20:26,430 --> 02:20:28,270
Do we want to proceed with this at all?

2531
02:20:29,170 --> 02:20:31,560
And if not, let's not continue it. Let's.

2532
02:20:31,710 --> 02:20:33,750
As a counter motion probably help you.

2533
02:20:34,310 --> 02:20:35,710
I was just going to counter to.

2534
02:20:35,830 --> 02:20:37,470
Strike it, which was a strike it.

2535
02:20:38,470 --> 02:20:39,750
So let's should we?

2536
02:20:39,950 --> 02:20:44,390
In the in the future though, if that's a consensus to strike it and I'm OK.

2537
02:20:44,870 --> 02:20:47,270
The same policy or approaches.

2538
02:20:47,430 --> 02:20:51,760
Instead of coming here and screaming, you know, like it, the public comment period.

2539
02:20:51,910 --> 02:20:54,640
If the problem does arise, we're going to.

2540
02:20:54,830 --> 02:20:57,750
Build a consensus. Bring an entire neighborhood.

2541
02:20:58,150 --> 02:20:59,270
And they're.

2542
02:20:59,350 --> 02:21:03,430
There's got to be some sort. I don't know if a leader or appointed leader. That's what I don't like.

2543
02:21:03,550 --> 02:21:04,870
I like finds.

2544
02:21:04,990 --> 02:21:09,590
Organ, you know, volunteers to organize the voice. I don't know how you call that.

2545
02:21:10,950 --> 02:21:13,910
And to bring dictates a residence how they.

2546
02:21:14,030 --> 02:21:15,550
Approach their government like.

2547
02:21:15,750 --> 02:21:19,150
They can come and scream at us, they can protest on the streets, they can do a lot.

2548
02:21:19,390 --> 02:21:22,830
I think what we say is not going to matter in that. The other nuance is that.

2549
02:21:23,070 --> 02:21:29,470
Really, this is a volunteer effort if somebody wants to do that, right? So like, we can't make somebody go hang Flyers.

2550
02:21:29,870 --> 02:21:34,110
No, yeah. And it certainly helps in our decision making. I mean when now?

2551
02:21:34,230 --> 02:21:35,550
All these communities that have.

2552
02:21:35,630 --> 02:21:38,920
Set up their leaders. When their leaders come and say, hey, we've talked to the community.

2553
02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:41,310
I'm definitely gonna weigh that in my decision to say.

2554
02:21:41,430 --> 02:21:43,310
This is an added bonus of.

2555
02:21:44,030 --> 02:21:47,510
And we all we already have a traffic calming process in our code.

2556
02:21:47,590 --> 02:21:50,750
Which would accommodate that like it would give authority to them if they.

2557
02:21:51,030 --> 02:21:52,550
They have a solution and they want to.

2558
02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:55,360
Get everyone behind it and they get enough people behind it then that.

2559
02:21:55,430 --> 02:21:57,750
It makes it easier helping our side.

2560
02:21:58,110 --> 02:21:59,190
If it's going to work or not.

2561
02:21:59,270 --> 02:22:03,150
It's OK and they'd still work through Jacob Wood on that issue like.

2562
02:22:03,350 --> 02:22:08,110
As an the appointed person to kind of organize whoever, whoever council appoints.

2563
02:22:08,750 --> 02:22:09,630
Awesome. So I'm gonna.

2564
02:22:10,750 --> 02:22:14,190
I'm gonna call for a vote or call for a motion to strike.

2565
02:22:14,270 --> 02:22:15,910
To strike, yeah.

2566
02:22:16,190 --> 02:22:17,070
You have one.

2567
02:22:17,190 --> 02:22:19,950
Second one to have it, is it second I second?

2568
02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:21,350
OK. And.

2569
02:22:21,630 --> 02:22:23,630
Let's do this by roll call Parker.

2570
02:22:23,750 --> 02:22:28,590
Hi Jake, I want to hear can we have Jacob would vote first so I know.

2571
02:22:29,030 --> 02:22:31,870
That's gonna no that's not allowed. Hey this is DKS thing not.

2572
02:22:33,350 --> 02:22:37,310
I don't think we need a roll call to strike all in favor.

2573
02:22:38,230 --> 02:22:38,390
Aye.

2574
02:22:40,320 --> 02:22:44,960
We're going to strike it correct, Correct.

2575
02:22:45,310 --> 02:22:46,760
Motion to strike passes.

2576
02:22:47,560 --> 02:22:48,040
OK.

2577
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:54,630
That's all we got tonight, guys. Can I make my comment now? Right before we're twisted? Yep.

2578
02:22:55,270 --> 02:22:58,030
I just want to say that I believe, I feel.

2579
02:22:58,390 --> 02:23:00,840
I've had a lot of residents come out and talk about.

2580
02:23:01,230 --> 02:23:03,230
How professional you've conducted the meetings?

2581
02:23:03,310 --> 02:23:08,630
Mayor, I love how you allow throughout the entire meeting public comment.

2582
02:23:08,990 --> 02:23:09,390
And.

2583
02:23:10,030 --> 02:23:12,040
I respect you for that and I think.

2584
02:23:12,150 --> 02:23:13,590
Citizens are growing.

2585
02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:16,790
In that trust and more people are coming.

2586
02:23:16,990 --> 02:23:17,910
And I.

2587
02:23:19,070 --> 02:23:22,990
I think that we're growing up as a council, so I appreciate your I move to continue all the other comments to next week's meeting.

2588
02:23:22,990 --> 02:23:26,910
You're here, you're here.

2589
02:23:28,190 --> 02:23:29,190
You're here for Jake.

2590
02:23:29,270 --> 02:23:32,710
Thank you for your appreciate. You're doing a good job. We will adjourn.

2591
02:23:33,750 --> 02:23:34,790
Showing respect.

2592
02:23:36,020 --> 02:23:40,540
It makes it harder, but it's a lot of respect. Next week is is spring break.

2593
02:23:42,620 --> 02:23:47,700
Next week is spring break. What's everyone's plan? Y'all going to be trying to take a vacation?