1 00:06:32,470 --> 00:06:33,620 Oh, are we recording? 2 00:06:34,530 --> 00:06:42,570 OK, welcome. Welcome one and all to the City of Vineyard Planning Commission meeting. It's May 6, 2026 at 7:00 PM. 3 00:06:43,450 --> 00:06:48,410 Well, call this meeting to order and start with an invocation with our new member Daharia. 4 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:49,790 Thanks. 5 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,240 Our Father in heaven, we are grateful for this day and. 6 00:06:55,490 --> 00:06:56,770 And the opportunity we have. 7 00:06:57,540 --> 00:06:58,620 Planning Commission to. 8 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:00,920 Further, the development of. 9 00:07:01,370 --> 00:07:02,650 Our beautiful city Vineyard. 10 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:05,730 We pray that they'll help us. 11 00:07:08,450 --> 00:07:09,050 Placed before us. 12 00:07:10,540 --> 00:07:13,060 Help make decisions that will benefit our city. 13 00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:14,570 And our citizens. 14 00:07:16,930 --> 00:07:18,330 Pray that bless us to be. 15 00:07:19,730 --> 00:07:20,780 And all that we do and so. 16 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:23,540 Thank you for praying. 17 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,740 Amen. Thank you. 18 00:07:33,610 --> 00:07:35,650 I pledge allegiance to the flag. 19 00:07:36,610 --> 00:07:37,650 Of the United States of America. 20 00:07:38,890 --> 00:07:40,810 Thank you very much for which it stands. 21 00:07:41,090 --> 00:07:43,010 One nation under God. 22 00:07:43,290 --> 00:07:46,290 Individual liberty and justice for all. 23 00:07:48,730 --> 00:07:51,100 Great. Thank you so much. 24 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:55,260 All right, item number 2. 25 00:07:55,690 --> 00:08:01,930 Are our presentations, recognitions, awards, proclamations? Anthony, do we have anything to? 26 00:08:02,130 --> 00:08:03,130 Proclaim or. 27 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:04,850 Present under this. 28 00:08:04,970 --> 00:08:05,530 Today. 29 00:08:06,370 --> 00:08:13,850 No, please. All right. Seeing as we recognize nothing, we'll move on to Item 3, which will be our public comments. 30 00:08:14,050 --> 00:08:18,075 Are there any members in the audience, anyone in the audience who would like to provide public comment for anything not on the 31 00:08:18,075 --> 00:08:22,100 agenda today? 32 00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:23,130 Now is your time. 33 00:08:25,790 --> 00:08:29,310 All right, seeing none, we will close item number 3. 34 00:08:30,460 --> 00:08:35,260 And move on to our consent items. There are no items on the consent calendar. 35 00:08:35,370 --> 00:08:36,290 Which moves us. 36 00:08:36,410 --> 00:08:40,970 Immediately into item number 5 and we'll move to 5.1. 37 00:08:41,370 --> 00:08:44,690 Which is the election of a chair and vice chair. 38 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:46,570 For the 2026. 39 00:08:46,690 --> 00:08:50,090 Calendar year, Anthony, could you give us just a little? 40 00:08:50,770 --> 00:08:53,090 Presentation on what that means. 41 00:08:53,530 --> 00:08:55,930 Yes. Thank you very much, Chair, I will. 42 00:08:56,850 --> 00:09:01,050 Thank you for this opportunity, but I'd like to just mention a few things here Every year, according to the bylaws of the Planning 43 00:09:01,050 --> 00:09:05,250 Commission. 44 00:09:05,330 --> 00:09:07,170 You are required to vote. 45 00:09:07,770 --> 00:09:08,770 To nominate. 46 00:09:08,930 --> 00:09:10,170 And elect. 47 00:09:11,620 --> 00:09:12,780 A chair and a vice chair. 48 00:09:13,330 --> 00:09:14,810 For the Planning Commission. 49 00:09:15,250 --> 00:09:18,250 Unfortunately, we haven't had a lot of meetings this year. 50 00:09:18,370 --> 00:09:23,750 And it had to be pushed all the way through to May. But it's better late than never. So we're here and it's a chance for you as 51 00:09:23,750 --> 00:09:29,130 planning commissioners. 52 00:09:29,530 --> 00:09:30,330 Seen all the? 53 00:09:30,490 --> 00:09:34,410 Good and hard work that you know you yourselves have been doing. 54 00:09:34,810 --> 00:09:36,130 Nominate each other. 55 00:09:36,690 --> 00:09:37,970 For yourself. 56 00:09:38,050 --> 00:09:39,210 For either a chair. 57 00:09:40,290 --> 00:09:41,410 Or a vice chair. 58 00:09:41,490 --> 00:09:42,290 And then you. 59 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:43,810 You know you'd have a vote. 60 00:09:44,130 --> 00:09:45,570 Where you choose. 61 00:09:45,690 --> 00:09:47,090 Whatever nomination. 62 00:09:47,290 --> 00:09:48,170 That you make. 63 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:51,610 If you think the old. 64 00:09:51,770 --> 00:09:57,170 The chair and vice chair also did such a great job. You can just hold, you know, keep them in place. 65 00:09:57,530 --> 00:10:03,370 And have a unanimous vote on that and keep moving. So these are so many options that you can. 66 00:10:04,570 --> 00:10:07,010 Decide to go with for this item. 67 00:10:08,170 --> 00:10:09,010 For today. 68 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:12,130 So at this point, I'll turn it over to the. 69 00:10:12,370 --> 00:10:16,570 Acting chair, who happens to be the chair for last year's Planning Commission. 70 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:19,690 And that would be Nathan Steele to keep going with this. 71 00:10:19,770 --> 00:10:25,090 Cool, thanks. A quick question before we open up for conversation is everyone. 72 00:10:25,170 --> 00:10:26,250 Present here a. 73 00:10:26,850 --> 00:10:28,210 Full member. 74 00:10:28,330 --> 00:10:30,810 Of the Commission or are there any alternates? 75 00:10:31,050 --> 00:10:31,490 Today. 76 00:10:31,570 --> 00:10:33,490 We have some alternates and I can pull them up. 77 00:10:33,610 --> 00:10:38,410 OK. Are the alternates eligible to be chair or vice chair or only full members? Only full members, OK. 78 00:10:38,530 --> 00:10:39,530 But they can nominate. 79 00:10:39,850 --> 00:10:40,930 OK, excellent. 80 00:10:41,610 --> 00:10:46,810 Does anyone know off the top of their head if they are an alternate? I think Brad is. I think the rest of us are. 81 00:10:46,930 --> 00:10:47,810 Full right? 82 00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:55,570 There's a few that we're missing. Chris isn't here. Jordan isn't here. And remind us. 83 00:10:55,690 --> 00:10:57,010 Vice Chair. 84 00:10:57,570 --> 00:10:58,450 Who is? 85 00:10:58,610 --> 00:11:00,490 The current vice chair. 86 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,020 I believe. Is it you? That's David Pierce. Yeah, that's what I thought. 87 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,760 OK. All right. 88 00:11:09,170 --> 00:11:13,460 So with that, any members of the Commission if you'd like to ask questions? 89 00:11:13,570 --> 00:11:15,770 Or make nominations. Now is your time. 90 00:11:19,550 --> 00:11:21,070 I have a question. I have a question. 91 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,220 Does the chair of the Planning Commission go to the DRC meetings? 92 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,060 Supposed to either go or nominate someone to. 93 00:11:31,250 --> 00:11:33,530 Appoint someone on the Commission to represent the Chair. 94 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:40,010 What? What to nominate? 95 00:11:45,810 --> 00:11:47,290 I would like to nominate. 96 00:11:47,770 --> 00:11:48,930 To continue to be. 97 00:11:49,010 --> 00:11:49,890 Board chair. 98 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:53,140 2nd that. 99 00:11:53,450 --> 00:11:53,610 OK. 100 00:11:55,890 --> 00:11:58,610 All right. Should we do chair and then we'll do Vice chair? 101 00:11:59,130 --> 00:11:59,660 Yes. 102 00:12:00,370 --> 00:12:02,210 Any other nominations? 103 00:12:02,330 --> 00:12:02,930 At all. 104 00:12:07,410 --> 00:12:09,770 Your schedule still permits you to. 105 00:12:10,050 --> 00:12:15,290 To serve, OK, Yeah, as long as these meetings being moved to 7:00. 106 00:12:15,410 --> 00:12:17,290 Really helps with that. So yeah, OK. 107 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Very good. OK. 108 00:12:21,010 --> 00:12:23,010 All right, so. 109 00:12:23,370 --> 00:12:25,170 Take that nomination and the second. 110 00:12:25,930 --> 00:12:29,730 We'll go ahead and do a vote for the chair and then we'll do the vice chair. So all in favor of. 111 00:12:29,970 --> 00:12:31,250 Me continuing on his chair. 112 00:12:31,930 --> 00:12:32,090 Aye. 113 00:12:33,290 --> 00:12:34,130 Any opposed? 114 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,700 All right, that passes. 115 00:12:37,050 --> 00:12:38,930 And then for Vice Chair? 116 00:12:42,850 --> 00:12:44,490 I'd like to nominate David Pierce. 117 00:12:45,650 --> 00:12:46,810 I'll second that. 118 00:12:48,730 --> 00:12:50,100 All right. Any other nominations? 119 00:12:53,530 --> 00:12:54,290 All right. 120 00:12:55,090 --> 00:12:58,250 All in favor for David Pierce, serving as vice chair. 121 00:12:58,850 --> 00:13:00,450 Aye aye. Any opposed? 122 00:13:01,260 --> 00:13:02,860 There we go. Passes unanimously. 123 00:13:03,690 --> 00:13:05,090 We'll run it back for another year. 124 00:13:05,330 --> 00:13:07,770 OK, that's the official ruling. 125 00:13:07,970 --> 00:13:08,370 OK, uh. 126 00:13:09,890 --> 00:13:11,860 Excellent. Is that all you need for 5.1? 127 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:18,380 Yes, that's all we need. Great. We'll move on to 5.2, which is a conditional use in site plan application. 128 00:13:18,530 --> 00:13:24,770 For Tire Auto Body Shop and retail at 430 S Geneva Rd. Regional Commercial zone. 129 00:13:27,550 --> 00:13:28,180 Yes. 130 00:13:28,290 --> 00:13:30,010 I I've got it. 131 00:13:30,570 --> 00:13:31,050 OK, OK. 132 00:13:32,410 --> 00:13:33,010 So. 133 00:13:33,130 --> 00:13:36,530 We don't have the applicant here at the at the moment, but. 134 00:13:37,290 --> 00:13:41,770 I would go through this whole presentation OK, so I'm sorry to interrupt. 135 00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:42,930 If we. 136 00:13:43,410 --> 00:13:44,970 Were they planning on attending? 137 00:13:45,050 --> 00:13:47,370 If so, we may be able to move it. 138 00:13:47,770 --> 00:13:51,570 To later and do 5.3 now, Would that be preferable? 139 00:13:52,610 --> 00:13:53,650 Yeah, we could do that. 140 00:13:53,770 --> 00:13:57,630 They were planning on attending, but because they're not here, I'm not sure. So we could just move it to the next one if you guys 141 00:13:57,630 --> 00:14:01,490 are OK addressing yours now, OK. 142 00:14:03,250 --> 00:14:07,770 No formal action for that because it's all within business item number 5. So we are going to. 143 00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:09,020 Table 5.2. 144 00:14:09,250 --> 00:14:10,410 Until later in the meeting. 145 00:14:10,570 --> 00:14:13,010 And we'll address 5.3 right now. 146 00:14:13,450 --> 00:14:17,650 Which is the site plan amendment for Utah City Wellness Center and Resort Pool Phase 2? 147 00:14:17,850 --> 00:14:18,410 Yes. 148 00:14:18,650 --> 00:14:21,890 Thank you very much. Thanks for staying on your toes while we shift like that. 149 00:14:22,050 --> 00:14:22,810 No problem. 150 00:14:22,930 --> 00:14:23,610 Thank you. 151 00:14:23,690 --> 00:14:24,010 So. 152 00:14:25,730 --> 00:14:30,090 I'll be presented on the site plan amendment for the Utah City Wellness Center. 153 00:14:30,690 --> 00:14:31,570 Phase 2. 154 00:14:31,770 --> 00:14:36,010 Just to give you a location context it is located on. 155 00:14:36,090 --> 00:14:39,170 I don't know if you can see this, but it's 250 W. 156 00:14:40,570 --> 00:14:41,530 1000. 157 00:14:41,730 --> 00:14:42,970 25 N. 158 00:14:44,730 --> 00:14:45,970 Here in Utah City. 159 00:14:46,370 --> 00:14:47,890 Right to the. 160 00:14:48,170 --> 00:14:51,090 If you can tell from my cursor, it's right on the. 161 00:14:51,250 --> 00:14:53,650 Each side of the vineyard connector. 162 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,540 And looking at the entire promenade or. 163 00:14:59,650 --> 00:15:00,290 Green Line. 164 00:15:00,490 --> 00:15:02,930 It's located within this section right here. 165 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,820 So it is. 166 00:15:09,170 --> 00:15:10,530 In the Town Center. 167 00:15:11,890 --> 00:15:13,570 Is it in the Town Center zoning? 168 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:14,450 Of. 169 00:15:15,290 --> 00:15:18,050 Code and the use that they're. 170 00:15:18,770 --> 00:15:21,650 Requested for. I mean, they're looking to amend. 171 00:15:21,730 --> 00:15:22,850 Just to give you a. 172 00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:27,380 Some context is permitted within this aquatic. 173 00:15:27,690 --> 00:15:32,450 The aquatic facility is permitted within the Lake Promenade Town Center zone. 174 00:15:32,930 --> 00:15:33,970 For our code. 175 00:15:36,930 --> 00:15:39,850 Now just to give you some background and overview as well. 176 00:15:40,490 --> 00:15:41,770 This was approved. 177 00:15:42,370 --> 00:15:47,970 This entire project was approved back in 2023 December. 178 00:15:48,770 --> 00:15:52,090 With a Wellness Center, a spa building, a restaurant. 179 00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:53,930 A pool building and. 180 00:15:54,810 --> 00:15:56,970 They are in this amendment. 181 00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:58,170 Look into. 182 00:15:59,210 --> 00:16:01,010 Update or change the. 183 00:16:01,130 --> 00:16:05,210 Entire elevation, so it looks a little different from what? 184 00:16:05,330 --> 00:16:07,730 I mean a lot different from what was initially. 185 00:16:07,890 --> 00:16:08,530 Proved. 186 00:16:11,890 --> 00:16:16,330 So this does not show as much but. 187 00:16:16,530 --> 00:16:18,850 This is the site plan that was previously approved. 188 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,820 This is. 189 00:16:21,610 --> 00:16:25,570 Currently, what they're looking to change, and this is the phase two-part of it. 190 00:16:26,050 --> 00:16:28,530 Which is on the on the South side of way. 191 00:16:29,210 --> 00:16:30,370 The main pool. 192 00:16:31,530 --> 00:16:33,090 It's going to be on the South side of the. 193 00:16:33,170 --> 00:16:33,810 Of the. 194 00:16:34,770 --> 00:16:35,490 The lot. 195 00:16:35,850 --> 00:16:38,330 And this I don't know if you can follow my cursor. 196 00:16:38,690 --> 00:16:39,490 But on this? 197 00:16:39,610 --> 00:16:42,010 North and East side is the. 198 00:16:42,410 --> 00:16:44,730 Spa building and restaurant. 199 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:57,100 So nothing actually changed with the landscaping. It was approved the other time they went above and beyond what is required. 200 00:16:57,970 --> 00:16:58,930 In the space. 201 00:16:59,050 --> 00:17:03,290 Actually, in this space, according to our code, they only required about 16 trees. 202 00:17:03,570 --> 00:17:06,810 But they're providing well over 50 trees in this space, so. 203 00:17:07,170 --> 00:17:08,490 I just thought I'd point that out. 204 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,460 And previous elevations that were approved. 205 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:14,220 Back then. 206 00:17:14,970 --> 00:17:16,210 Looked like this. 207 00:17:18,030 --> 00:17:19,260 Build size. 208 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,620 And you know, capacity. Everything still stays the same, just architecturally. 209 00:17:26,450 --> 00:17:27,450 Things have changed. 210 00:17:27,850 --> 00:17:30,010 And they wanted to look this way instead. 211 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:35,700 I'm just going to go through. 212 00:17:36,730 --> 00:17:40,410 The elevations and if you have any questions you can just stop me rather than just. 213 00:17:40,530 --> 00:17:41,170 Trying to. 214 00:17:41,530 --> 00:17:44,180 Explain every architectural change in here. 215 00:17:44,250 --> 00:17:46,420 Yeah, we'll let you finish your presentation first, OK. 216 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,540 One thing that. 217 00:17:49,810 --> 00:17:51,770 You know, with this new change, we. 218 00:17:51,850 --> 00:17:56,530 We discussed with the applicant was the North facade of the. 219 00:17:58,290 --> 00:18:01,580 Of this elevation change that they wanted to make. 220 00:18:01,690 --> 00:18:03,410 Had a much blank wall. 221 00:18:03,610 --> 00:18:05,370 And we wanted to. 222 00:18:05,530 --> 00:18:11,250 Make sure that it provides a more pedestrian, pedestrian friendly approach. 223 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:17,510 So we talked about potentially breaking it up with some landscaping in which they agreed with. So that's how it's going to look 224 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:22,130 like some IV's and some trees. 225 00:18:22,450 --> 00:18:26,330 Just to make it look more appealing and not look like a blank wall. 226 00:18:26,490 --> 00:18:27,610 On the on the. 227 00:18:27,730 --> 00:18:29,460 Pool building side of the building. 228 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,220 And this is how. 229 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:35,100 What they have also. 230 00:18:35,210 --> 00:18:37,130 Updated the restaurant to look like. 231 00:18:38,170 --> 00:18:40,890 Now, having said that, the conditions. 232 00:18:41,130 --> 00:18:44,330 Of approval based on the review and every. 233 00:18:44,410 --> 00:18:46,770 Thing that we've had to go through. 234 00:18:46,930 --> 00:18:51,130 Was that they pay the outstanding fees and you know, these are standard. 235 00:18:52,010 --> 00:18:53,570 Conditions that we have. 236 00:18:53,810 --> 00:18:54,770 The applicant. 237 00:18:55,050 --> 00:18:57,450 Is also required as I mentioned earlier. 238 00:18:57,690 --> 00:18:59,850 To have the northern facade of the. 239 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:06,930 Pull meet the agreed upon landscaping to provide a more pedestrian friendly experience and limit the blank wall. 240 00:19:07,290 --> 00:19:09,050 So they agreed to again. 241 00:19:09,530 --> 00:19:13,730 Include these trees and other landscaping elements to make it look. 242 00:19:14,290 --> 00:19:15,260 Better and. 243 00:19:16,330 --> 00:19:18,530 You know, more human scale as well. 244 00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:25,390 There's another part of it that I have not spoken about, but this condition is born out of a meeting that we had this morning, 245 00:19:25,390 --> 00:19:29,970 which is the applicant should provide a safe. 246 00:19:30,090 --> 00:19:33,970 Park in and circulation plan while the spar building is being. 247 00:19:34,770 --> 00:19:38,890 Completed or finished up? I want to go up here to explain a few things. 248 00:19:39,130 --> 00:19:41,570 So when you look at this site plan that's being. 249 00:19:42,370 --> 00:19:42,930 You know, uh. 250 00:19:43,010 --> 00:19:43,890 Shown here. 251 00:19:44,410 --> 00:19:46,690 The applicant has. 252 00:19:47,210 --> 00:19:48,690 A phase in plan for this. 253 00:19:49,090 --> 00:19:52,490 You know, development itself where they look into. 254 00:19:52,610 --> 00:19:54,930 Get the phase two which is the main. 255 00:19:55,570 --> 00:19:56,370 Down here. 256 00:19:56,730 --> 00:19:57,650 This looks better. 257 00:19:57,730 --> 00:19:59,570 With the the main pool. 258 00:19:59,970 --> 00:20:01,690 Completed by next summer. 259 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,140 But. 260 00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:05,410 Completed and open to the public. 261 00:20:05,850 --> 00:20:06,850 By next summer. 262 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:09,300 At the same time. 263 00:20:09,650 --> 00:20:11,250 They will be working on. 264 00:20:11,690 --> 00:20:14,810 The you know, the spa building and the restaurant area. 265 00:20:15,850 --> 00:20:18,890 So we came up with that condition. 266 00:20:19,490 --> 00:20:21,450 To have better fencing. 267 00:20:21,890 --> 00:20:24,210 And, you know, a good circulation plan. 268 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,880 And also parking plan. 269 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,000 So that while they're doing all of. 270 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:29,560 The, you know, finishing. 271 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,160 Finished work in this other part of the building. 272 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,560 People can still use the main pool safely. 273 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,360 And not have any issues since it may still be an active construction site. 274 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,600 On the North End and east side of the site. 275 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,000 So that's the reasoning behind. 276 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,080 The. 277 00:20:53,780 --> 00:20:55,770 The last condition that was included. 278 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,920 Would need to have all of those at least. 279 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:01,120 Discussed and agreed upon. 280 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,240 Before. 281 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,520 They are or. 282 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:10,760 They have that as part of the conditions before it gets to the point where they need to start operating the main pool. 283 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,440 So that's about it. 284 00:21:13,370 --> 00:21:17,850 Staff recommends approval of this site plan amendment. 285 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,360 I essentially. 286 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,880 Nothing changed other than how. 287 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,320 That's going to look on the, you know, the various facades, that's the elevations. 288 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,160 And. 289 00:21:31,010 --> 00:21:32,690 Here's a sample motion. 290 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,240 For this. 291 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Application. Umm. 292 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:39,450 We also have the applicant here, so if there are any questions that. 293 00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:43,570 We have concern in this presentation. 294 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,360 We can. 295 00:21:46,150 --> 00:21:48,130 Ask them as well to clarify. 296 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:48,840 Thank you. 297 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,920 Great. Thank you so much. Anthony, before we hear from the applicant or before we ask questions of the applicant, are there any 298 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,800 questions for Anthony? 299 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,280 From anyone on the Commission. 300 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,320 You're. 301 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,360 Yeah. All right. 302 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,800 Jeff Yeah, OK, great. 303 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,280 The 4th question so the pool will be completed. 304 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,040 About the summer of. 305 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,600 2027. 306 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,320 And in use. 307 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,320 And there will be construction. 308 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,400 Continuing on the north and east sides, yes. 309 00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:25,610 According to what was shared by the. 310 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:26,800 Applicant. 311 00:22:29,860 --> 00:22:35,535 Whoever makes the motion can ultimately make this decision. I would just recommend the nitpicky in me on the last bullet. Rather 312 00:22:35,535 --> 00:22:41,210 than saying while the spa building is finished up, I'll just say that the. 313 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,160 Parking circulation plan will. 314 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:49,280 In effect until the SPA building receives its certificate of occupancy. Just so it has a better definition. 315 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,770 To it. That would be my only suggestion. 316 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,400 Are there any other questions for Anthony? 317 00:22:59,580 --> 00:23:06,340 Maybe. Do we have accessibility measures for people with wheelchairs accounted for? 318 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,640 So I'd like to. 319 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,120 Rams and ask the applicant to move up front. 320 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,320 Introduce yourself. We all don't know you so. 321 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,120 OK. Before you, that was a great question. Anyone else? 322 00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:19,850 All right, so. 323 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,680 There we go. Come up. 324 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,120 You can address that. 325 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,850 As well as just an overall little brief explanation if you could. 326 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:30,240 Just summarize really quickly what are the changes. 327 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,520 Yeah, because this isn't a new site plan or a new landscape plan. 328 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,890 It's adjusting something that was already approved. 329 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,160 With just a couple changes. So if you could just summarize that, that'd be great. 330 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,360 Yep, that's right, Bronson Tatten. 331 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,560 With Utah City. 332 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,320 This is BJ. 333 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,160 Also with Utah City. 334 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:50,880 He's our director of architecture. 335 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,640 Architectural. 336 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,000 Related questions. 337 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,680 We're gonna have BJ come up. 338 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,760 But so as far as parking goes. 339 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,680 We do have a parking plan that surrounds the site. 340 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,600 We do have. 341 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,440 Accessible stalls just down the street. 342 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,120 From here. 343 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,880 There's also. 344 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:18,400 Future parking plan to the north of the block that we haven't built yet but will likely be coming online. 345 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,360 Let's see, 13 C is. 346 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,960 Next fall. 347 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Yeah. So there will be additional. 348 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,360 Accessible stalls up in the block to the north. 349 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,720 So some of the changes that we. 350 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,040 Why we're coming today is just what Anthony was saying. We. 351 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:44,410 Have changed the exterior elevations so. 352 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,120 In May of last year, we came in with the phase one and these are the elevations for the phase one building. So the one on the left 353 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:53,520 is the restroom building. 354 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,280 And like pool equipment. 355 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,040 Rooms. 356 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,960 And then this building on the right hand side. 357 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,640 This is the concessions building. 358 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,720 And then in our. 359 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,040 If you can, go to the other kind of the perspective renderings. 360 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,000 We were initially thinking this building would be more of like a mountain, modern. 361 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:16,320 Architectural style. 362 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,810 And so that's what you're seeing in here. So this was. 363 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,880 That would have been two years ago. 364 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,480 And we have. 365 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,080 Progressed in like our architectural styles within Utah City and so. 366 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,400 You see now the elevations are changing to a more traditional like. 367 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,680 Georgian architectural style. 368 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,120 That's more fitting with. 369 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,240 Some of the other buildings that will be coming online in Utah City. 370 00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:44,930 So the footprints and the. 371 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,160 The square footages of the building stayed the same although the restaurant. 372 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,680 Was conceptualized at 2 storeys. 373 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,760 We have a portion of two-story above the restaurant but. 374 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,280 Anthony, maybe you can go to the rest the restaurant. 375 00:26:01,630 --> 00:26:02,530 Elevation. 376 00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:07,550 So on the bottom left elevation, that's like when you're coming down Broad Street, that's the elevation that you see. So it's the 377 00:26:07,550 --> 00:26:11,510 east elevation. 378 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,440 The portion to the right. 379 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,970 Is part of the. 380 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,200 The restroom or restaurant? 381 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:18,960 Building umm. 382 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,120 It's a double volume to stories. 383 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,760 And then the bulk of the restaurant is that single story off to the left. 384 00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:27,570 So we did. 385 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,680 The restaurant. 386 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,200 Did shrink a little bit in square footage but the the parking. 387 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:37,760 We've just kept the same parking. And to clarify, the restaurant shrinking is just removing. 388 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,800 Portions of the second story and. 389 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,120 Yeah. And I should say that this. 390 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:42,960 This. 391 00:26:44,420 --> 00:26:45,850 This version of the restaurant. 392 00:26:46,780 --> 00:26:47,580 We do. 393 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,040 We do plan on having that roof. 394 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,400 Um, accessible. 395 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,200 So you can come up into the second story piece of the restaurant and. 396 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,760 And be out on the roof. 397 00:27:00,070 --> 00:27:00,830 Outdoor seating on the. 398 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:02,400 Yeah, wonderful. 399 00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:09,130 OK. So that's kind of one of the changes as far as the square footage goes, but the rest of the Wellness? 400 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,840 And. 401 00:27:11,870 --> 00:27:15,770 The upper pool and the equipment, it's all still just the same. 402 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,080 Great. All right. Thank you. Are there any questions for the applicant? 403 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,400 Daria, I'm looking at you. 404 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,640 I have several OK. 405 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,840 I read through the agenda packet and I was reading everything. 406 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,640 So I have several questions if that's OK with everyone. 407 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,040 I I was looking at First off, I was looking under the general demolition notes. 408 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,440 And I'm wondering where all this demolition material is going to end up. 409 00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:48,370 As far as soil goes. 410 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Whenever we dig a footing. 411 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Will excavate and any of that soil goes onto adjacent blocks for fill in. 412 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,000 Future. 413 00:27:58,360 --> 00:27:59,040 Projects. 414 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,920 No, none of the. 415 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,920 None of the soil that we're excavating in the area now is. 416 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,720 Is impacted like environmentally impacted That cleanup happened? 417 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,490 Before we bought the property. 418 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,400 And like before 2019. 419 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,440 So you're just moving it around in the in the whole Utah City area, so. 420 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,440 Part of this. 421 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,200 Area. 422 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,800 Which? 423 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,880 A lot of it has already been removed, but there was an old. 424 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,520 **** like a big berm. 425 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,840 It was built through this section. 426 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,880 That has all been. 427 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Moved away. 428 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Like if you look further north up toward HCI, you'll still see some of the **** that's up further up there. 429 00:28:40,850 --> 00:28:41,650 But yeah, this. 430 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,850 This one's all been cleared. 431 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,480 So now the excavation that's happening is all. 432 00:28:47,250 --> 00:28:48,010 Underneath. 433 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,360 That impacted soil that has already been. 434 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,720 Has already left. 435 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,240 OK, good. Thank you. 436 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:53,960 OK. 437 00:28:57,130 --> 00:29:00,530 Yes, I'm going to ask you about the. 438 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,880 Wellness Center, the South elevation. 439 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,040 It's kind of all blank. 440 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,290 Aren't we supposed to have like 30% of blazing? 441 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,040 On those on those blank buildings, aren't we supposed to have 30%? 442 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,080 Windows on all buildings. 443 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,200 That's a good question. So when we're internal facing that? 444 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,640 That requirement is for the streets. 445 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,200 But where we're internal, there will be in. What you don't see in here is there's cabanas. 446 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,560 That are embedded into that facade. 447 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520 And we probably should have shown them, but there's. 448 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,160 I believe there's six cabanas. 449 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,840 That fit into that facade. 450 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,560 There will be like. 451 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,520 How would you explain that? 452 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,680 It just openings in that building facade. 453 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,360 And cabanas will be in there with. 454 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,760 Couches like sofas. 455 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,240 And then behind that wall is all of the pool equipment. 456 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,600 So that's why there aren't any windows is because you'd be looking at. 457 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,080 The pool equipment, OK, but I'm wondering. 458 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,440 Can we not? 459 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,360 Do some type of textural glazing. 460 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:01,720 You know. 461 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,840 Going to think I'm silly but. 462 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,080 OK, I am not a graphic artist. 463 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,800 But this is from my shower. 464 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,240 Door. Did you do that with some crayon? 465 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Yeah, you know you can make it. 466 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,280 Opaque. 467 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Different colors. 468 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,840 And you can frame it and make it. 469 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Something. 470 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:33,120 A visual, something visual to look at so that that's not a bad. 471 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,160 Consideration. 472 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Or else I think I think. 473 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,840 Concrete. You know how concrete. 474 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,560 That underpasses 20 the 2002 Olympics, and they have the concrete. 475 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,600 Beautiful. 476 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,600 Things like that. 477 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,200 Could you do something like that other than just? 478 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,760 Tree or Bush? 479 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,160 And cheers. 480 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,880 Can you can you do something like that to? 481 00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:06,790 Yeah, the the fin, yeah. 482 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,680 Well, the. 483 00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:12,970 We can definitely do texture. 484 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,120 On that concrete and with the cabanas, the cabanas will act like. 485 00:31:19,290 --> 00:31:20,450 I wanted to. 486 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,320 Are we talking about the north? The North? 487 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,480 Yeah, OK. 488 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,240 Wall. The blank wall, yeah. 489 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,640 And so that's the one wall on this building. 490 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,640 That. 491 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,120 This building is so large and has so many different. 492 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Needs to it. We've got to have. 493 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,960 One place to be able to deal with trash and all these different things so they. 494 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:46,800 The pool the there's the secondary pool in the plan. They both look at ground level. The 2nd pool in the main area. 495 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,120 Is elevated. 496 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,280 So we. 497 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:56,080 That pool hangs down into that space and that's where we have our shipping or receiving our trash, all these different things, so. 498 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,240 And we want to do exactly what you're saying, I mean. 499 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,920 Sometimes these elevations. 500 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,420 We put these together to get these approvals and we're in the midst of finishing up this building and trying to articulate the 501 00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:07,680 zone. 502 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,760 We want to do exactly what you're talking about. We've started with. 503 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,000 Landscaping. 504 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,805 We're trying to be very true to the style of the building, the detailing of it. I mean, you saw the cupola and some different 505 00:32:16,805 --> 00:32:21,410 things. We're trying to put a lot of that detail in here. 506 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,490 This area we're still working through a little bit in terms of all that articulation because. 507 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,720 Just like you. 508 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,280 It means a tremendous amount to us to make this whole development. 509 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,440 Authentic. 510 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:39,810 And so we do want to put those textures in the concrete. We're looking at, do we put columns on that wall? Do we put different? 511 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,200 You know, we've talked about embedded artwork in that wall. 512 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,480 So we're trying to do that, but we want to find just that, right? 513 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,280 Kind of way to do that that's authentic to the building, not just. 514 00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:51,630 We did it. 515 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,880 To match this other thing right I. 516 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,240 If I could just clarify, are we talking about the facade that? 517 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,090 You have a red ring up of right now. 518 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,600 That's the only. 519 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,680 Facade, yes, so OK. 520 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,000 Can I make a comment? 521 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,560 So this discussion began with the South. 522 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,920 And I wanted to be sure that you're clear with that because the South end. 523 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,560 Where that doesn't face the right, it doesn't, yeah, it doesn't face the right away. So yeah. So there are no restricted to any of 524 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,800 these. 525 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,280 But the north side? 526 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,280 Is just what? 527 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,520 We have here that we had discussed earlier. 528 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,120 And you know, BJ just went over. 529 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600 You know, to make that work or look better. 530 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:41,340 We talked about some landscaping to break it in a little bit, right? Because the previous version was more blank than it was just 531 00:33:41,340 --> 00:33:48,680 modification. The purpose of this is to approve the modifications which adds a bit more dynamic texture and all texture to it. 532 00:33:51,170 --> 00:33:51,890 OK, that sounds good. 533 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,650 And then I think I just have one more. 534 00:33:58,450 --> 00:33:59,450 Oh, how many? 535 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,320 How many seats are in that restaurant? 536 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,680 We don't have yet. 537 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,640 We don't know. It's more than anything, it's a shell at this point. We don't have the exact restaurant tour. 538 00:34:10,390 --> 00:34:12,070 The type of restaurant, OK. 539 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,480 I was just trying to address that with parking, making sure that we do have adequate parking for that. 540 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,320 We do plan to ballet that restaurant. 541 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,560 You had valet, that restaurant. 542 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,960 I mean, that's the intent. There will be we, we do have parking for the restaurant, but. 543 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:33,050 There will be a valet option that you could pull up and someone will take both cards. Yeah. 544 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640 When earlier when? 545 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,640 Martina was asking about accessibility. 546 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,680 How far you said? 547 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,200 It's not too far. How far is accessible during that construction phase? 548 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:49,080 Just just for her information. 549 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,770 That's a good point too, because I wanted to clarify a little bit on the construction phasing. 550 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,200 So I think what? 551 00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:57,370 I want to put words in. 552 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,640 Anthony's mouth. But we have a phase one. 553 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,920 Phase one is supposed to open. 554 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,000 Like in December. 555 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,080 That's not a great time to open pools. 556 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,080 And so we probably won't actually open that phase one should finish. 557 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,320 While. 558 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,000 We're still building Phase 2. 559 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,200 Phase Two's main pool. 560 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,800 And Wellness building should all open in August. 561 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,400 That's what construction schedules we're seeing. 562 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,360 From CERC. 563 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,520 But. 564 00:35:26,050 --> 00:35:27,250 I think that's. 565 00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:29,570 From in. 566 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,520 BJ and I were talking Phase 2 will all be done together so we won't open the main pool without the Wellness. 567 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:36,840 Also being open. 568 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,240 But phase one. 569 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,720 Like come May of next year. 570 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,490 When pools traditionally open, we will probably open. 571 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,640 The kids pool and splash pad. 572 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,000 But we will make sure that the circulation so. 573 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:50,960 When? 574 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,360 When the main facility opens. 575 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,560 All of this parking along the north that you can see in this site plan. 576 00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,200 Will all be available and. 577 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,000 When we open phase one. 578 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,810 We'll make sure that we understand. 579 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,080 What's required for phase one? I think there's a table in the last approval that. 580 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,320 Articulated that. 581 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,720 And we'll make sure that that parking. 582 00:36:11,470 --> 00:36:13,210 Chris and Pat and Patty. 583 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,770 Building officials will. 584 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,800 Make sure that that parking is available and open when. 585 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,880 We open. 586 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,800 Certain get CFO. 587 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,520 Buildings, yeah, I think it's important to note that. 588 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,280 No certificates of occupancy are granted. 589 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,240 For commercial buildings like this, unless it's already shown that they're following. 590 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,960 The Americans with Disability Act. 591 00:36:33,790 --> 00:36:34,710 Yep, correct. 592 00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:38,770 So there's accessible parking here. 593 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,200 The additional parking that we'll have. 594 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,520 A little bit later is on the block to the north. 595 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:45,730 And then there's also. 596 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,760 Built accessible parking just down the Green Line. 597 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,200 Over by the Racquet Club. 598 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,600 So you'll have plenty of ADA parking available. 599 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:56,280 Yep, Yep. 600 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,400 OK, just one more. 601 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:08,120 Psych. 602 00:37:14,130 --> 00:37:15,250 You named one of the buildings. 603 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,000 Oh yeah, yeah. 604 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,680 So were you planning on? 605 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,240 Painting Monet's water with lilies on that mural. 606 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,040 We should. We should. 607 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,320 We should. 608 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,920 You know, that might be a little. 609 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:35,900 Strange, but I think that would be a pretty cool idea. 610 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,000 I mean you've you've named it a larager array. 611 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,320 You might as well do it. 612 00:37:41,290 --> 00:37:42,130 We should do that. 613 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,200 We need a little more culture and Vineyard. I think that's great. 614 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,320 No class up the joint. 615 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,880 Thank you, Dorian. Do you want to know where that's at? 616 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,520 You want us to point that out? 617 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,800 Well, sure, you can find it out. 618 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,720 So it's kind of hard to. 619 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,170 Does it look better on here? 620 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,770 Yeah, yes. 621 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:03,880 I'll go ahead. 622 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,760 OK, so. 623 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,400 You see the upper pool? 624 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,520 The one that's on the top of the page. 625 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,840 Just to the right, there's kind of a blue. 626 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,160 Long rectangle. 627 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,120 That is like a glass roof. 628 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,620 And the space underneath that is like layers, mineral baths and spas. And that's the urangery. It's glass all the way around on 629 00:38:21,620 --> 00:38:26,640 the sides. 630 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:33,120 A large skylight. Underneath it is a large mineral tub. Hot mineral tub. A cold tub. 631 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,440 And then you go inside. 632 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,200 One layer further into the building and. 633 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,360 That's the whole bathroom. 634 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:39,820 Bathhouse component. 635 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,250 Saunas snow showers. 636 00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,880 Is that all available for the community or is that just for restaurants? 637 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,880 It's all for. It will have different levels that for everybody. 638 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,760 Yeah, I think you should sort of virally. 639 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,560 By level student memberships. 640 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,640 At the beginning. 641 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,880 It's, I don't think it's been fully worked out, but yeah, it would be like what we compare it to is like Orem Rec Center. If 642 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,160 you're in Orem or Vineyard City resident you get. 643 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,480 A discounted rate, but the general public pays a little more. 644 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,120 So there would be some, there would be a tier. 645 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,040 System. 646 00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:17,260 That's what we've talked about in the. 647 00:39:18,510 --> 00:39:20,530 In the police agreement with the city. 648 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,000 OK, let's. 649 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,320 We're going to do some public comments later. 650 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,440 Let's just adjust these right now and then I'll open up questions. 651 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,640 To the public, thanks. 652 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,680 OK, Brad Graydon. 653 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,000 Well, just a comment. This is really exciting. 654 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,360 I think we here in Vineyard love. 655 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,400 Pools. 656 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:51,320 Up until this point, maybe there's only HOA pools. We've had a couple. 657 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,920 Cool pools for. 658 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,800 A few years My son recently visited the new. 659 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,240 Pool by the overpass. 660 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,080 In that HOA, yeah, the orchards. 661 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,640 And I believe also holdaway fields has an HOA. 662 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:08,560 And they're planning on a pool. 663 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,400 You guys are going to be open. 664 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,610 Next year. 665 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,440 What? 666 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,680 You know, so far these have all been HOA pools. 667 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,160 And, you know, limited access. 668 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,720 But as far as? 669 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,000 Access. 670 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,920 To these pools. 671 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,280 Yeah, fees, who's who owns them, who can go there? 672 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,600 What can you say about that? 673 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,640 Yeah, yeah. So the ownership structure is? 674 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,080 We will build this. We'll deed it to the city. 675 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,240 The city will own. The ground will own. 676 00:40:43,470 --> 00:40:44,230 Everything. 677 00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:47,510 And then we have a lease agreement to lease it back and. 678 00:40:47,630 --> 00:40:48,990 Operate it for the city. 679 00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:51,200 And in that agreement. 680 00:40:51,470 --> 00:40:52,910 We talk about like. 681 00:40:55,110 --> 00:40:58,030 I don't think it articulates exactly what the pricing will be. 682 00:40:58,110 --> 00:40:58,750 Because we. 683 00:40:58,910 --> 00:41:02,110 We we haven't hired the operator that will actually. 684 00:41:02,190 --> 00:41:04,150 Run it. We've been talking to a lot of people. 685 00:41:04,270 --> 00:41:06,750 They will be the ones that will establish the pricing. 686 00:41:10,350 --> 00:41:10,830 But. 687 00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:13,750 The the agreement that we have is that it will not be. 688 00:41:13,830 --> 00:41:14,750 For profit. 689 00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:18,760 Run Facility. 690 00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:21,950 It'll any profits that roll off of it. 691 00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:25,270 Rolled back into maintaining the facility. So that's. 692 00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:26,270 That's. 693 00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:30,350 Kind of where the pricing will be set, we need to understand what it's going to cost to run it. 694 00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:33,800 The fees and everything, we'll need to cover that. 695 00:41:34,110 --> 00:41:36,470 And then anything that comes above that will. 696 00:41:36,670 --> 00:41:37,870 Will get put back. 697 00:41:40,030 --> 00:41:43,150 Into the into the facility and in the in the green Line. 698 00:41:43,870 --> 00:41:47,190 OK, very cool. You're yeah, you're keeping it reasonable, not Lagoon. 699 00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:47,990 Pricing. 700 00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:52,030 Yeah. And so I guess to be clear too, this is not an HOA pool. 701 00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:53,430 This is a. 702 00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:54,910 This is. 703 00:41:55,630 --> 00:41:56,950 More like a city pool. 704 00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:59,760 That the city is hiring someone else to come and. 705 00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:01,190 Run it for them. 706 00:42:01,270 --> 00:42:02,590 Kids from Salt Lake and. 707 00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:03,630 Show up and swim. 708 00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:07,030 Yep, they pay the membership fees. 709 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,680 Or if there's, you know, a day, use that's. 710 00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:13,950 A day use fee. You can just show up and come in. 711 00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:17,400 You'll you'll pay an entrance fee. 712 00:42:19,980 --> 00:42:20,420 So yeah. 713 00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:22,110 Cool. OK. 714 00:42:22,990 --> 00:42:24,230 There any other questions? 715 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,280 I see one forming. 716 00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:29,630 In your mind, no. 717 00:42:30,310 --> 00:42:36,430 Yeah, just going back to the accessible stalls for like away from the beginning on. 718 00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:39,880 I'm just nervous that there might not be enough. 719 00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:41,990 Or if the distance might be. 720 00:42:42,190 --> 00:42:43,110 Too much. 721 00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:45,030 For someone in a wheelchair. 722 00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:47,670 To access comfortably. 723 00:42:51,550 --> 00:42:56,720 So how many were you thinking in this phase one and how many in the Phase 2? 724 00:42:56,830 --> 00:42:58,880 Yeah, I'm not sure off the top of my head. 725 00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:02,230 I don't recall off top of my head the number. 726 00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:08,275 But I would say to the point made earlier, we do comply with ADA, we comply with all the building codes. It's in our best interest 727 00:43:08,275 --> 00:43:14,240 as well to make sure that we provide the required number amount. 728 00:43:14,510 --> 00:43:16,310 They're within that close proximity. 729 00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:19,230 The ADA requires that they're approximate. 730 00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:23,550 Relationship to the front entries of the building and things of that nature. So. 731 00:43:23,790 --> 00:43:24,910 I mean as we are. 732 00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:29,250 Working through both phases, we will make sure that we can apply, I mean it's as much for our benefit and the communities benefit 733 00:43:29,250 --> 00:43:33,510 and all those things as well so. 734 00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:38,880 There's many things that you can do to find areas to value engineers. Those are not those areas. 735 00:43:39,070 --> 00:43:41,110 OK, perfect. Thank you. 736 00:43:41,350 --> 00:43:43,030 That's reassuring. I'm just. 737 00:43:43,390 --> 00:43:46,470 I've seen jobs done that are. 738 00:43:47,230 --> 00:43:49,110 They're illogical. 739 00:43:49,590 --> 00:43:51,590 As somebody who's in a wheelchair. 740 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:54,510 I totally agree and ultimately. 741 00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:58,270 I think with everything we're trying to do, just as a side kind of social note. 742 00:43:58,590 --> 00:44:03,230 We're trying to prove to the community that we're serious about doing this right, doing it something that's. 743 00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:06,310 Way above par for the community and. 744 00:44:06,430 --> 00:44:07,430 For perpetuity. 745 00:44:07,790 --> 00:44:09,750 So it's our goal. 746 00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:11,830 Really appreciate it. Thank you. 747 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,680 All right. 748 00:44:16,310 --> 00:44:20,030 I want to hear from the public. If there is any public comment or questions, what we'll do is ask the questions, we'll record them 749 00:44:20,030 --> 00:44:23,750 down. 750 00:44:24,030 --> 00:44:28,230 Lend the public comment time and then allow either staff or the applicant to address those. 751 00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:31,430 One of the things I wanted to just make sure. 752 00:44:31,790 --> 00:44:34,510 We are staying within focus on what? 753 00:44:34,590 --> 00:44:35,230 The. 754 00:44:35,390 --> 00:44:39,670 Action we are considering this evening is This is not an approval of the entire. 755 00:44:40,030 --> 00:44:40,670 Plan, uh. 756 00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:41,990 It's already been approved. 757 00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:44,990 What we're looking for is the modification. 758 00:44:45,150 --> 00:44:46,350 To the elevations. 759 00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:47,070 Which is what? 760 00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:55,680 Is really the only action that we can do tonight and so any of the conditions as well I want to make sure we're tying it to. 761 00:44:56,270 --> 00:45:00,190 The elevations and not trying to add any other scope that's beyond what we're asking. 762 00:45:00,470 --> 00:45:00,950 Tonight. 763 00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:02,670 With that being said. 764 00:45:02,750 --> 00:45:05,920 Members of the public, I know that we had a couple questions if you want to come and raise them. 765 00:45:06,110 --> 00:45:06,870 Now is your time. 766 00:45:06,990 --> 00:45:09,190 Just please give us your name too. 767 00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:21,100 Karen Cornelius Villas resident. 768 00:45:22,310 --> 00:45:24,030 It looks like it's going to be beautiful. 769 00:45:24,190 --> 00:45:25,470 No doubt about that. 770 00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:28,150 I do have a question and. 771 00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:31,670 It doesn't have to do with the elevation, sorry, but it's about parking. 772 00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:35,390 And I want to know if the number of parking places. 773 00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:38,190 Are already in the approved plan. 774 00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:41,950 They can't remember and I understand that that's not with them. 775 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:47,590 But I think before anything is approved, we need to know phase one, phase two, phase three. 776 00:45:47,790 --> 00:45:50,120 What our number of parking places are going to be. 777 00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:53,520 Because no doubt this is going to be a huge draw. 778 00:45:53,870 --> 00:45:57,390 And it does seem like our space over there is limited. 779 00:45:58,150 --> 00:46:04,710 And one more question, since you talked about ADA, I have a question about ADA that is not related to this, but it's important. 780 00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:09,590 I have had several friends contact me since I knew I was coming here. 781 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,040 To add. 782 00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:15,550 For me to ask why there are no 88 parking places? 783 00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:17,550 At the Alabilities Park. 784 00:46:19,770 --> 00:46:21,450 So I would like that answered. 785 00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:23,140 OK. 786 00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:24,590 Thank you. 787 00:46:24,750 --> 00:46:25,630 01 more. 788 00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:28,030 It doesn't have to do with the elevation either. 789 00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:29,310 I just want to know. 790 00:46:29,790 --> 00:46:31,310 How we're paying for this? 791 00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:34,430 And was that already? 792 00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:37,950 That I'm sure that this has already been. 793 00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:43,470 Described and planned and it's already been approved, but I just that's a question I have, so I'd like an answer to it. Thank you. 794 00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:44,630 All right. Thank you. 795 00:46:47,090 --> 00:46:50,080 OK. Are there any other members of the public with questions? 796 00:46:50,430 --> 00:46:50,790 Please. 797 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,720 Jane Pierce from Cascade. 798 00:46:57,190 --> 00:47:01,190 I do have one question about the landscaping that you're going to be putting in. 799 00:47:01,590 --> 00:47:06,150 With the the critical issue of water throughout all of. 800 00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:07,670 Utah. 801 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,840 Just the whole state. 802 00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:12,670 In consideration with that. 803 00:47:12,910 --> 00:47:15,910 Are you going to consider any sort of? 804 00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:19,990 Xeriscaping, which would not use a lot of. 805 00:47:20,590 --> 00:47:23,830 Extra water to maintain whatever type of. 806 00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:26,520 Of landscaping that you do. 807 00:47:28,130 --> 00:47:29,120 Good question. Thank you. 808 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:32,440 OK. 809 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,640 That's all their application is for. 810 00:47:39,110 --> 00:47:40,310 Well, that's not really my comment. 811 00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:42,190 Terry Ewing, The Villas. 812 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,120 How many months? 813 00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:47,400 A year will these. 814 00:47:47,830 --> 00:47:49,550 Public pools be available. 815 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,840 And is the. 816 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,480 The upper pool. 817 00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:55,750 Part of the spa. 818 00:47:56,770 --> 00:47:58,560 That's a membership, correct? 819 00:47:59,190 --> 00:48:01,030 And is. 820 00:48:01,310 --> 00:48:03,310 That an indoor or outdoor. 821 00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:06,320 Because I assume it would be closed. 822 00:48:07,110 --> 00:48:08,070 The other pools are closed. 823 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,240 And because I've had grandchildren in swim. 824 00:48:13,870 --> 00:48:17,910 Will these pools be available to our schools for swim meets? 825 00:48:18,310 --> 00:48:19,190 Or even swim less. 826 00:48:19,790 --> 00:48:20,630 Swim meets. 827 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,720 And let's see, what else. 828 00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:25,800 Thank you everybody else. 829 00:48:26,190 --> 00:48:27,710 Answered questions SO. 830 00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:28,870 That's mine. 831 00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:30,230 Thanks, Terry. 832 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,600 All right, three out of four. 833 00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:34,670 Are you coming up? 834 00:48:36,350 --> 00:48:37,030 Oh, almost had it. 835 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:40,070 OK. 836 00:48:41,790 --> 00:48:44,550 All right, with that, we'll go ahead and close the public comment. 837 00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:48,790 I'm gonna allow the applicant to come up to answer these questions that I've recorded. I will say though, some of these are 838 00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:52,550 operating. 839 00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:53,470 Questions. 840 00:48:54,510 --> 00:48:55,950 As they said earlier. 841 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:59,680 The operations plans hasn't already, hasn't been. 842 00:48:59,790 --> 00:49:01,350 Totally finalized yet? 843 00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:05,090 So I'll give you a little grace. If you don't know the answer is 2 of them. If you do and you're able to answer them, then by all 844 00:49:05,090 --> 00:49:08,590 means please do second. 845 00:49:09,330 --> 00:49:12,000 It really is just an application about. 846 00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:12,790 The. 847 00:49:12,990 --> 00:49:14,110 Elevation change. 848 00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:15,150 And so. 849 00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:21,320 Some of these questions I don't want to spend too much time on because that is not what was agendized tonight. So we need to stick 850 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,650 on what's on the agenda. But that being said, if there is the ability to address them, please by all means do. And then if there's 851 00:49:26,650 --> 00:49:31,980 further questions, I would hope that you would be able to talk outside the meeting to answer any of those. So if you could come up 852 00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:37,310 and just ask really quick. 853 00:49:39,050 --> 00:49:43,225 When it comes to the parking spaces at the All Abilities Park, since that wasn't on the agenda, I would hope that you could 854 00:49:43,225 --> 00:49:47,400 address that after the meeting to answer that. 855 00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:49,870 Question regarding the. 856 00:49:50,310 --> 00:49:51,150 Paying for it. 857 00:49:51,390 --> 00:49:52,590 This right now. 858 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:56,630 Is a private development, you don't know need to go into those details, but if you could give a little feedback as to how that 859 00:49:56,630 --> 00:50:00,230 budget was established. 860 00:50:00,310 --> 00:50:02,070 Yeah, we're we're paying for it. 861 00:50:02,190 --> 00:50:03,150 There we go. Yeah. 862 00:50:03,550 --> 00:50:05,230 OK. Thank you for your generosity. 863 00:50:06,070 --> 00:50:07,670 OK, we're paying for it. 864 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,440 OK, developer. 865 00:50:10,350 --> 00:50:14,030 All right. As for parking, that's already in the approved plan. 866 00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:16,190 That was already approved in the. 867 00:50:16,310 --> 00:50:17,670 Previous approval. 868 00:50:18,660 --> 00:50:21,400 All right, when it comes to landscaping, if you could. 869 00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:27,270 Speak a little bit on water wise planting and whether that was considered in the landscaping palette. Yes. 870 00:50:28,310 --> 00:50:29,230 Definitely, uh. 871 00:50:29,590 --> 00:50:31,750 Using water wise plants the. 872 00:50:33,020 --> 00:50:34,880 Like kind of Zurich principles. 873 00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:36,990 Are definitely in here. It's actually. 874 00:50:37,230 --> 00:50:39,470 Better for pools that we don't have a lot of leaf. 875 00:50:39,550 --> 00:50:41,390 Litter blowing into the pools and so. 876 00:50:41,790 --> 00:50:43,350 That strategy is definitely. 877 00:50:43,470 --> 00:50:45,150 Planned into the landscape plan. 878 00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:46,550 OK, excellent. 879 00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:49,470 A mix of. 880 00:50:49,590 --> 00:50:53,910 Drought tolerant and native species? Yep. Well, not bringing in any. Yep, and crazy great. 881 00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:54,310 OK. 882 00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:58,470 And then the operations questions. 883 00:50:59,510 --> 00:51:03,030 Once those are more finalized, I imagine you'll be making those public for the community to know. Yeah, the the question about the 884 00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:06,550 upper pool, correct. 885 00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:11,150 That that one in particular, we know we want to have it open year round. 886 00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:12,630 So all of the decking. 887 00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:13,630 Is getting. 888 00:51:13,950 --> 00:51:15,790 Like it'll all be heated. 889 00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:18,510 For snowmelt. 890 00:51:18,990 --> 00:51:24,030 The the pool will be heated. All of the pools will be heated with the district energy system. So we have. 891 00:51:24,310 --> 00:51:25,670 Pretty inexpensive heat. 892 00:51:26,070 --> 00:51:27,070 To heat the pools. 893 00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:29,030 It won't be natural gas that. 894 00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:30,190 You know we're burning. 895 00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:32,830 To heat the pools, it'll be the. 896 00:51:32,910 --> 00:51:34,510 District energy that will come through. 897 00:51:35,110 --> 00:51:36,150 And keep the. 898 00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:37,110 Temperatures up. 899 00:51:37,390 --> 00:51:38,830 All of the other pools though. 900 00:51:38,910 --> 00:51:40,030 Because of the. 901 00:51:40,730 --> 00:51:42,800 They're at the on the main deck. 902 00:51:43,310 --> 00:51:44,870 We will probably close those. 903 00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:47,830 We'll probably be able to extend the season. 904 00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:48,710 Of the pool. 905 00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:50,550 Longer than. 906 00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:52,510 Then pulls around. 907 00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:54,430 Because of the district energy, but. 908 00:51:54,510 --> 00:51:56,470 You know, as the air temperature cools. 909 00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:58,990 It's just not as inviting to be out there but. 910 00:52:00,230 --> 00:52:04,870 We will we'll we'll have the radiant heating in the deck on the upper pool, which will. 911 00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:06,670 Help keep temperatures up. 912 00:52:07,470 --> 00:52:09,390 OK, well, wonderful. 913 00:52:09,470 --> 00:52:12,670 Thank you. It is outdoor. The upper pool is outdoor. OK. 914 00:52:12,990 --> 00:52:13,950 Excellent. Thanks. 915 00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:21,050 OK, so with that, I just wanted to provide a couple comments and then if anyone has other things to say or want to make a motion, 916 00:52:21,050 --> 00:52:26,910 they're welcome to. I just want to commend you. I think this is an incredible. 917 00:52:27,790 --> 00:52:29,750 Development and it just keeps getting better and better. 918 00:52:29,870 --> 00:52:32,150 Everything that we consider. 919 00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:34,150 Great contributions community. 920 00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:36,150 With a lot of generous. 921 00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:41,630 Donations to the city as well. So I appreciate all of that. 922 00:52:41,710 --> 00:52:45,510 And I really appreciate this vision. I think it's great. 923 00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:49,310 So with that or is anyone? 924 00:52:49,830 --> 00:52:53,510 Want to make a motion, Anthony, if you could put the motion language up there? 925 00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:55,270 If anyone wants to just. 926 00:52:55,350 --> 00:52:58,390 Say the sample motion, I just recommend you say. 927 00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:59,830 Conditions as presented. 928 00:53:00,230 --> 00:53:02,070 Rather than read each bullet point. 929 00:53:02,270 --> 00:53:04,270 But anyone want to make one? 930 00:53:05,630 --> 00:53:06,550 The last bullet. 931 00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:12,590 You had a condition on that. Oh, I would just reword it and when you say as presented, you could say and suggested modification 932 00:53:12,590 --> 00:53:16,630 just saying that the. 933 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:18,630 Circulation plan. 934 00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:23,510 Would remain active until the small building receives its certificate of occupancy. 935 00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:30,220 Can I get the mural? 936 00:53:31,550 --> 00:53:32,270 Part of the elevation. 937 00:53:35,870 --> 00:53:38,470 You can make that motion. I personally would. 938 00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:45,070 Not like to make that a requirement. I think that is a good suggestion to them. I would not feel comfortable requiring it. 939 00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:45,550 Yes, OK. 940 00:53:50,650 --> 00:53:54,120 All right, Brad, I saw you leaning towards the microphone. 941 00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:02,840 All right, OK. I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve the site plan amendment application Plan 26004. 942 00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:09,430 With the conditions as presented with the suggested modification for the last one in the SPA building. 943 00:54:10,340 --> 00:54:11,480 I'll second the motion. 944 00:54:11,830 --> 00:54:13,430 OK, all in favor say aye. 945 00:54:13,710 --> 00:54:15,110 Aye, any opposed? 946 00:54:15,790 --> 00:54:16,950 All right, PESS is unanimously. 947 00:54:17,070 --> 00:54:18,110 Thank you. Thank you. 948 00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:20,720 All right, let's move on. 949 00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:29,280 To back to 5.2 Back to the future conditional use in site plan application for entire auto Body Shop and retail. 950 00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:30,630 Anthony. 951 00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:40,910 Thank you very much. That was a good one. 952 00:54:41,590 --> 00:54:47,150 So I'm going to be presenting on the tire, auto Body Shop and retail. 953 00:54:49,470 --> 00:54:51,390 If I can find my mouse OK, got it. 954 00:54:52,450 --> 00:54:55,840 So just to give you a location context, this is located. 955 00:54:55,950 --> 00:54:56,830 On the corner of. 956 00:54:57,550 --> 00:54:58,670 400 S. 957 00:54:59,070 --> 00:55:00,190 And Geneva? 958 00:55:00,670 --> 00:55:01,870 Geneva Rd. 959 00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:04,590 Which is where my mouse is. 960 00:55:05,310 --> 00:55:06,270 Currently float in. 961 00:55:06,670 --> 00:55:07,590 Is that clear? 962 00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:10,780 So they had a. 963 00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:12,630 You know a. 964 00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:15,390 Approved a couple of months ago. 965 00:55:15,950 --> 00:55:17,910 It has not been recorded yet. 966 00:55:18,590 --> 00:55:20,950 We had a few conditions of approval. 967 00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:24,190 At the time that needed to be corrected, they have done that. 968 00:55:24,670 --> 00:55:28,070 But they've not recorded it yet. That would be required. 969 00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:32,070 Before they can obtain a building permit so. 970 00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:34,710 It's in the works. They have an approved plat. 971 00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:35,430 But. 972 00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:36,510 A subdivision. 973 00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:38,030 But it's not been recorded. 974 00:55:39,410 --> 00:55:39,880 Again. 975 00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:44,110 This area that's, you know, highlighted in the red box. 976 00:55:44,270 --> 00:55:46,270 Is within the original commercial. 977 00:55:47,310 --> 00:55:48,950 Zoning district of our city. 978 00:55:51,250 --> 00:55:52,400 Now the. 979 00:55:53,150 --> 00:55:54,430 Various uses that. 980 00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:58,190 Was, you know, shared with us with this application. 981 00:55:58,350 --> 00:55:58,950 Where? 982 00:55:59,150 --> 00:56:02,830 Vehicle and auto body repairs minor. 983 00:56:04,790 --> 00:56:09,350 As well as a restaurant and retail sales and services. 984 00:56:10,690 --> 00:56:17,840 The restaurant and the retail sales and services are all outrightly permitted in the original commercial zone. 985 00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:19,390 However, the. 986 00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:22,750 Vehicle and auto body repair minor. 987 00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:27,230 Use is one that requires A conditional use. 988 00:56:27,310 --> 00:56:27,910 Permit. 989 00:56:29,050 --> 00:56:31,090 Hence the reason behind. 990 00:56:31,310 --> 00:56:31,950 This. 991 00:56:32,310 --> 00:56:34,870 Application being both a conditional use permit. 992 00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:35,590 And. 993 00:56:37,070 --> 00:56:37,910 A site plan. 994 00:56:40,550 --> 00:56:45,230 So the lot is about 2.4 acres large. 995 00:56:45,710 --> 00:56:50,670 And it has two buildings that have been proposed to go on it. We have building A. 996 00:56:51,630 --> 00:56:54,830 Which has a square footage of about 19,000. 997 00:56:55,830 --> 00:56:56,430 You know. 998 00:56:56,790 --> 00:56:58,110 800 square feet. 999 00:56:59,190 --> 00:57:00,670 They meet all the setbacks. 1000 00:57:01,070 --> 00:57:03,350 And also building B. 1001 00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:05,710 Was at some point. 1002 00:57:06,070 --> 00:57:11,360 Almost 9000 square feet, but because of various uses that we. 1003 00:57:11,470 --> 00:57:14,070 Pointed out to them that need it even more parking. 1004 00:57:15,870 --> 00:57:20,350 It it made them shrink the building up a little bit to accommodate the more parking. 1005 00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:23,550 Due to the various uses that are going in there. 1006 00:57:23,950 --> 00:57:27,510 Which made it about 8200 square feet. 1007 00:57:28,510 --> 00:57:29,710 Building B as well. 1008 00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:31,670 Sits to the north and it. 1009 00:57:32,310 --> 00:57:35,630 I will show you it also meets all the required set back. 1010 00:57:36,070 --> 00:57:40,870 Now I wanted to point out in this project overview summary that. 1011 00:57:42,130 --> 00:57:45,050 You know the architects had here listed as a. 1012 00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:47,070 As a warehouse. 1013 00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:47,870 In there. 1014 00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:50,670 It's not a warehouse. A warehouse is not. 1015 00:57:50,790 --> 00:57:56,470 Permitted in the original commercial area. It's essentially it's a tire shop. 1016 00:57:56,550 --> 00:57:57,750 Right, and they need storage. 1017 00:57:57,950 --> 00:57:59,030 So in there. 1018 00:57:59,150 --> 00:58:00,230 Description they. 1019 00:58:00,350 --> 00:58:04,910 They named their storage warehouse, but it's not a warehouse, it's storage for the tire shop. 1020 00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:07,710 And I also wanted to point out that the minor. 1021 00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:09,150 Vehicle. 1022 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:11,880 Body of. 1023 00:58:12,430 --> 00:58:14,870 Auto Body Shop and repair. 1024 00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:18,070 What makes it minor is everything. 1025 00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:21,830 That they do has to be in a contained environment in the. 1026 00:58:21,950 --> 00:58:25,430 You know, enclosed environment, so it's going to be in a. 1027 00:58:25,710 --> 00:58:31,110 Building with, you know, the garage doors that can be opened and closed to let in cars and out. 1028 00:58:31,790 --> 00:58:33,470 So I just wanted to point that out. 1029 00:58:35,070 --> 00:58:37,310 The requirement for landscaping is about. 1030 00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:44,910 20% of the entire development they provided more than we need. That's 21% if we calculate. 1031 00:58:45,790 --> 00:58:48,470 The building height and everything meets. 1032 00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:50,670 The requirements as. 1033 00:58:52,420 --> 00:58:54,980 As the city has in the code. 1034 00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:57,150 So this is the floor plan for building A. 1035 00:58:58,670 --> 00:59:00,230 Just to get you oriented. 1036 00:59:02,750 --> 00:59:03,590 You would have. 1037 00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:06,230 This would be the building. A would be the. 1038 00:59:07,540 --> 00:59:11,400 The one with the tire shop, so this on the South side, so this. 1039 00:59:12,670 --> 00:59:13,470 Building. 1040 00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:15,670 I don't know if you can tell from my cursor, but. 1041 00:59:15,870 --> 00:59:16,470 This. 1042 00:59:16,550 --> 00:59:19,430 Here would have where my cursor is would be Geneva Rd. 1043 00:59:19,950 --> 00:59:22,350 And this here would be where you have the tire shop. 1044 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,760 And they would have the other retail stores. 1045 00:59:25,830 --> 00:59:27,670 On the other side of it, creating that L. 1046 00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:30,660 And building B. 1047 00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:32,910 Has this. 1048 00:59:33,110 --> 00:59:33,950 Building. 1049 00:59:34,030 --> 00:59:37,790 Where you have my cursor would be 400 S. 1050 00:59:38,110 --> 00:59:42,590 And Geneva Rd. is going to be on the east side of what is being shown right now. 1051 00:59:47,070 --> 00:59:50,070 So altogether, this is how it's expected to look. 1052 00:59:50,510 --> 00:59:52,070 With a tire shop here. 1053 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,000 Building A and Building B. 1054 00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:56,990 Will the restaurant and. 1055 00:59:57,590 --> 00:59:59,310 Other retail spaces that. 1056 01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:02,680 That are also aligned in 400 S. 1057 01:00:04,850 --> 01:00:06,200 Here's a landscape plan. 1058 01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:08,270 We worked with them to get in. 1059 01:00:08,990 --> 01:00:10,350 You know, water wise. 1060 01:00:11,350 --> 01:00:14,590 Plants and make sure that they meet the vineyard. 1061 01:00:15,630 --> 01:00:20,230 Vineyard tree manual requirements and they meet it all with their landscaping. 1062 01:00:21,570 --> 01:00:22,570 Landscaping. 1063 01:00:23,070 --> 01:00:24,310 Plan they. 1064 01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:25,270 Over delivered. 1065 01:00:26,060 --> 01:00:28,520 You know, for instance, with the trees we only require. 1066 01:00:28,670 --> 01:00:30,310 Based on the size and the. 1067 01:00:30,430 --> 01:00:36,070 Project coming in, we only required about 30-4 but they provided about 51 trees. 1068 01:00:36,350 --> 01:00:37,030 So. 1069 01:00:37,830 --> 01:00:41,230 They tried to make this as appealing as possible. 1070 01:00:41,350 --> 01:00:41,870 And. 1071 01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:44,670 All their selection also did. 1072 01:00:45,350 --> 01:00:48,470 Take into consideration some water wise you know. 1073 01:00:48,590 --> 01:00:49,670 And zero scape in. 1074 01:00:50,070 --> 01:00:51,350 Principles to make it. 1075 01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:53,830 You know, save more water than usual. 1076 01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:55,790 So here are the elevations. 1077 01:00:56,350 --> 01:00:58,270 Oh, I didn't realize I was in this mode. 1078 01:00:58,750 --> 01:01:00,870 So here are the elevations for building a. 1079 01:01:02,070 --> 01:01:03,270 So to the north. 1080 01:01:04,850 --> 01:01:07,190 So this here is going to be. 1081 01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:10,390 This one here is going to be the East. 1082 01:01:13,790 --> 01:01:14,670 Elevation. 1083 01:01:15,020 --> 01:01:19,300 So the maximum height for this entire site is essentially 60 feet. 1084 01:01:19,780 --> 01:01:20,460 And. 1085 01:01:20,940 --> 01:01:23,180 They were just maxing out at about 30 feet. 1086 01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:24,060 Height. 1087 01:01:29,090 --> 01:01:31,370 This is the elevation here that shows. 1088 01:01:32,260 --> 01:01:33,420 North and South. 1089 01:01:33,620 --> 01:01:37,300 The South side is what you know. You can tell it's a garage. 1090 01:01:37,660 --> 01:01:40,540 Doors for entry into the tire shop. 1091 01:01:46,330 --> 01:01:47,090 And for building. 1092 01:01:48,260 --> 01:01:51,060 We've worked with them to get this far actually. 1093 01:01:52,420 --> 01:01:55,940 The South elevation is going to be into the interior lot. 1094 01:01:56,660 --> 01:01:59,140 However, the north elevation here. 1095 01:02:00,140 --> 01:02:04,260 Again, coming back to what Diarrhea had expressed interest in the other project. 1096 01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:06,180 They had a blank wall. 1097 01:02:06,380 --> 01:02:08,260 With nothing on it because it's the back of. 1098 01:02:08,380 --> 01:02:13,270 You know a retail space, right? We worked with them. They got some good windows. They had some. 1099 01:02:13,460 --> 01:02:14,060 You know. 1100 01:02:14,540 --> 01:02:17,620 Architectural features here with the roof. Just played with it. 1101 01:02:18,420 --> 01:02:19,460 They also. 1102 01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:20,780 Did express. 1103 01:02:20,980 --> 01:02:22,180 Some you know. 1104 01:02:22,260 --> 01:02:23,260 Interest in. 1105 01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:25,380 Having a mural on the north. 1106 01:02:25,620 --> 01:02:27,620 Elevation side because it's right on. 1107 01:02:27,860 --> 01:02:28,580 400. 1108 01:02:31,380 --> 01:02:32,540 Mural again. 1109 01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:34,980 So on 400 S. 1110 01:02:35,180 --> 01:02:35,740 And. 1111 01:02:36,780 --> 01:02:39,900 They're open to having something fun and inviting. 1112 01:02:39,980 --> 01:02:44,180 Because we expressed to them that it is one of the major gateways into the city. 1113 01:02:44,420 --> 01:02:46,740 And we cannot just have a back house. 1114 01:02:46,820 --> 01:02:49,660 Looking, you know, building which. 1115 01:02:50,260 --> 01:02:52,420 Which really essentially. 1116 01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:56,580 Based on everything else, they meet their requirements because of the windows and everything that they have provided, but we asked 1117 01:02:56,580 --> 01:03:00,140 them to do more. 1118 01:03:00,260 --> 01:03:02,580 Because of the gateway nature of that. 1119 01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:03,420 Corridor. 1120 01:03:03,540 --> 01:03:04,620 And it being. 1121 01:03:05,060 --> 01:03:06,020 400 S. 1122 01:03:06,340 --> 01:03:06,940 So, umm. 1123 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,670 They do have plans to put on a beautiful mural to. 1124 01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:15,180 Make it welcome in for people getting into Vineyard through Foreign to South. 1125 01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:21,510 So here are the elevations for the east side and the West side. 1126 01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:23,020 Of the buildings. 1127 01:03:23,740 --> 01:03:26,500 On building B they capped out at about. 1128 01:03:26,620 --> 01:03:28,390 You know, less than 30 feet as well. 1129 01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:30,780 Though they have a maximum height of about 60 feet. 1130 01:03:32,540 --> 01:03:36,100 And here are the conditions of approval that we have here. 1131 01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:38,780 Based on the conditional use permit. 1132 01:03:39,140 --> 01:03:42,060 I mean, we have the standard pay all the fees that you owe. 1133 01:03:42,980 --> 01:03:43,820 However. 1134 01:03:44,220 --> 01:03:47,340 The main one that we had to include was. 1135 01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:48,180 To. 1136 01:03:49,940 --> 01:03:51,540 Ensure that all vehicles. 1137 01:03:51,940 --> 01:03:54,140 Vehicle repairs or whatever is done on. 1138 01:03:54,260 --> 01:03:55,860 On in the tire shop. 1139 01:03:55,980 --> 01:03:58,100 Is entirely within an enclosed space. 1140 01:03:58,220 --> 01:03:59,140 Because that is what? 1141 01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:00,220 The. 1142 01:04:01,220 --> 01:04:03,460 What does what they're applying for the minor? 1143 01:04:04,180 --> 01:04:04,820 Shop. 1144 01:04:05,940 --> 01:04:11,300 That's one of the things we did not put anything here about the mural because. 1145 01:04:11,580 --> 01:04:12,380 It is not. 1146 01:04:13,210 --> 01:04:15,130 We can require them to do it. 1147 01:04:15,260 --> 01:04:17,820 We just talked them into it and they were excited. 1148 01:04:18,180 --> 01:04:19,980 To do it. So thank you for doing that. 1149 01:04:20,180 --> 01:04:20,660 Yeah. 1150 01:04:22,060 --> 01:04:24,380 So we recommend approval. 1151 01:04:24,740 --> 01:04:27,060 Of the site plan and conditional use permit. 1152 01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:28,260 As we have. 1153 01:04:28,460 --> 01:04:30,740 You know, presented to the Commission. 1154 01:04:30,980 --> 01:04:33,780 Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns. 1155 01:04:33,940 --> 01:04:39,420 Thank you. We'll get there. One of the things that would help just as we are discussing this. 1156 01:04:39,740 --> 01:04:41,060 There's really two items. 1157 01:04:41,220 --> 01:04:43,140 That they are seeking approval for. 1158 01:04:43,220 --> 01:04:44,740 One is the conditional use permit. 1159 01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:45,620 Which is. 1160 01:04:45,700 --> 01:04:47,740 The use that they're proposing with the. 1161 01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:49,540 Tired Body Shop? 1162 01:04:50,460 --> 01:04:52,780 And then the second one is the site plan. 1163 01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:54,580 Application now. 1164 01:04:55,260 --> 01:04:59,590 Future uses such as the restaurant if they want to be doing things. 1165 01:04:59,980 --> 01:05:03,100 That would be above and beyond what the required. 1166 01:05:03,220 --> 01:05:07,513 Zoning and stuff are they would come in at a later date. So I don't, I want to make sure we don't get hung up with things like the 1167 01:05:07,513 --> 01:05:11,806 restaurant or what kind of retail is going to be going in those other pads. We don't know and we're not asked to know that right 1168 01:05:11,806 --> 01:05:16,099 now, yeah. 1169 01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:18,100 OK. I wanted to just make that clear. 1170 01:05:18,460 --> 01:05:18,940 Great. 1171 01:05:19,340 --> 01:05:20,820 Any questions for staff? 1172 01:05:21,340 --> 01:05:24,700 Oh, OK, one one other condition that. 1173 01:05:24,820 --> 01:05:27,340 We forgot to put in here and thank you so much. 1174 01:05:27,420 --> 01:05:29,860 My, you know, my able engineers. 1175 01:05:30,260 --> 01:05:31,710 So they also made. 1176 01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:33,900 A change here. We worked with them. 1177 01:05:34,420 --> 01:05:36,220 Our engineers did all the good work. 1178 01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:37,780 I want to go here, so it's very. 1179 01:05:40,940 --> 01:05:42,700 So you can relate to it better. 1180 01:05:42,780 --> 01:05:47,340 But on 400 S, we didn't want to hold up any kind of traffic, so they. 1181 01:05:48,580 --> 01:05:51,460 They agreed to put in a median that blocks. 1182 01:05:51,540 --> 01:05:53,140 Them from having anyone. 1183 01:05:53,540 --> 01:05:57,460 Turn left into the property, so it's going to be right in right out only. 1184 01:05:57,580 --> 01:05:58,220 Way to go. 1185 01:05:59,270 --> 01:06:00,230 Which one? This one? 1186 01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:02,580 There will be a. 1187 01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:05,260 Road but all the way past this so. 1188 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:06,960 You can't come down here. 1189 01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:08,580 Into the property. 1190 01:06:10,020 --> 01:06:13,430 With the median extent likely from the intersection. 1191 01:06:13,540 --> 01:06:15,500 All the way West to. 1192 01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:17,260 Vineyard Rd. 1193 01:06:17,660 --> 01:06:22,100 Or to the ball fields? Or OK to that first Rd. OK first intersection. Yep. 1194 01:06:22,460 --> 01:06:23,910 Great. The one that is. 1195 01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:25,860 Kind of straight from the elementary school. 1196 01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:31,060 Yeah, that weird intersection thing, essentially down to that intersection. Yeah, I did want to point out too with the mural idea, 1197 01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:36,180 just as a side note, this, this lot is kind of depressed. 1198 01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:40,900 So as you come up to Geneva, it raises up quite a bit. So it's it's kind of in a. 1199 01:06:41,340 --> 01:06:43,660 Hole that's about 6 feet or so. 1200 01:06:44,340 --> 01:06:44,820 So like. 1201 01:06:45,140 --> 01:06:46,500 This corner here. 1202 01:06:47,060 --> 01:06:49,540 Just a thought with that mural. 1203 01:06:51,420 --> 01:06:52,340 OK, excellent. 1204 01:06:54,430 --> 01:06:56,150 All right, the other one. 1205 01:06:56,260 --> 01:06:58,660 While we're asking the questions if. 1206 01:06:58,740 --> 01:07:01,060 One of you could just maybe pull up Google Maps. 1207 01:07:01,460 --> 01:07:02,860 Just as a reference. 1208 01:07:02,940 --> 01:07:04,630 Point for all of it, because. 1209 01:07:04,780 --> 01:07:06,740 I'm sure I at least I know. 1210 01:07:06,820 --> 01:07:09,340 There's going to be some questions just about the. 1211 01:07:09,780 --> 01:07:12,980 Overall neighborhood context there, but Daria, we've interrupted you enough. 1212 01:07:13,220 --> 01:07:16,820 So that's those were my 2 questions. The 4th South. 1213 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,440 With that in and out, only the right way, right? 1214 01:07:22,820 --> 01:07:24,060 To the right. Excuse me. 1215 01:07:24,740 --> 01:07:26,420 I'm concerned about. 1216 01:07:27,140 --> 01:07:28,940 The alignment of the Vineyard Rd. 1217 01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:31,070 With the parking lot. 1218 01:07:33,020 --> 01:07:36,700 Is it going to be impacted until we get that taken care of? 1219 01:07:36,980 --> 01:07:39,580 It won't be impacted, but we. 1220 01:07:40,460 --> 01:07:44,340 We are addressing that as a separate concern with with Oram. 1221 01:07:44,660 --> 01:07:46,140 OK, so. 1222 01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:49,310 You would put the median in. 1223 01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:50,660 For this. 1224 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,040 For this project. 1225 01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:55,860 Yeah, it would end about there. 1226 01:07:56,220 --> 01:08:02,640 That median just apartment, is that what that is? Yeah, just right before Vineyard Rd. Yeah. So that's Vineyard Rd. now and right 1227 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:09,060 about there. And it would reflect what you're seeing within. 1228 01:08:09,770 --> 01:08:13,750 The yellow lines correct because you got turn lanes. 1229 01:08:14,460 --> 01:08:16,780 Essentially that yellow line right here. 1230 01:08:16,980 --> 01:08:20,220 They're just going to replace that yellow line with the concrete barrier. 1231 01:08:23,710 --> 01:08:26,550 Oh yeah, Vineyard, maybe that's your question. 1232 01:08:26,780 --> 01:08:31,340 Yeah, people can still turn left on from Vineyard Rd. onto Foreman, OK. 1233 01:08:34,180 --> 01:08:38,160 OK. Well, because aren't we trying to align the parking lot with Vineyard roads to the elementary can get out. I just want to make 1234 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:42,140 sure that that can still take place. 1235 01:08:42,860 --> 01:08:46,205 We're looking at options for that, but yeah, that that would still be able to take place. We're not, we're not going to impact 1236 01:08:46,205 --> 01:08:49,550 those those possibilities. 1237 01:08:49,700 --> 01:08:53,900 And my other question was about the corner for South that dip. 1238 01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:59,660 You know, people have run into that fence and knocked it down and it's kind of dangerous. 1239 01:09:00,180 --> 01:09:03,700 And so I'm wondering if they should be putting up some kind of barricade. 1240 01:09:04,140 --> 01:09:06,540 Of some sort to protect that corner. 1241 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,230 And maybe with a big. 1242 01:09:09,340 --> 01:09:11,420 Call Marquis to say it's. 1243 01:09:13,660 --> 01:09:15,340 Castro plasma or whatever they want to call it, yeah. 1244 01:09:16,180 --> 01:09:17,460 The Castro tire. 1245 01:09:18,570 --> 01:09:19,090 So I don't know. 1246 01:09:20,330 --> 01:09:22,030 I'm Yeah. 1247 01:09:22,140 --> 01:09:23,870 I think upon development. 1248 01:09:24,020 --> 01:09:26,300 That will provide enough of a visual or. 1249 01:09:26,580 --> 01:09:30,030 Barry, right now, I think you're get a lot the people running up there because. 1250 01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:33,940 You're not seeing much. I'm hoping upon development you might see it more. 1251 01:09:35,620 --> 01:09:36,780 Into that corner. 1252 01:09:39,980 --> 01:09:43,020 If there's if there's development in there. 1253 01:09:43,700 --> 01:09:44,260 Zoom out. 1254 01:09:46,750 --> 01:09:47,590 Right, but as you. 1255 01:09:48,260 --> 01:09:51,860 There's gonna be some trees on that corner, it looks like. 1256 01:09:52,820 --> 01:09:53,420 But yeah. 1257 01:09:53,620 --> 01:09:57,280 To your point there, there will be a building, so it'll be a visual thing and then there will be some trees along there. Did they 1258 01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,940 have a signage placement at all? 1259 01:10:01,460 --> 01:10:03,260 You know, not at the moment. 1260 01:10:03,380 --> 01:10:04,060 So. 1261 01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:04,980 I mean, we could. 1262 01:10:05,060 --> 01:10:09,390 We could discuss with them on the signage placement as well. 1263 01:10:10,890 --> 01:10:12,570 And also lighting in the parking lot. 1264 01:10:12,860 --> 01:10:14,180 Is that a requirement? 1265 01:10:18,140 --> 01:10:22,140 They will have a lighting plan, photometric plan, so the. 1266 01:10:22,460 --> 01:10:23,830 That would be required. 1267 01:10:24,260 --> 01:10:25,660 Kind of speaking for planners, but. 1268 01:10:26,660 --> 01:10:28,390 That's all tied to building permit, isn't it? 1269 01:10:29,220 --> 01:10:34,500 Usually it should be tied to site planner, which is what we're approving today. 1270 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,160 I'm sorry. Go ahead. 1271 01:10:40,820 --> 01:10:41,980 I'm curious. 1272 01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:43,180 Because that. 1273 01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:53,180 That 400 N area is all it already is, pretty congested during like school hours and start and end. 1274 01:10:53,580 --> 01:10:54,660 Like do we need? 1275 01:10:54,740 --> 01:11:00,260 To have an entrance exit point that way? Or can we just keep it on Geneva? 1276 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,080 I think with. 1277 01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:08,550 With fire safety and like emergency safety access you'd need. 1278 01:11:08,660 --> 01:11:10,940 You need 2 points of access. 1279 01:11:11,660 --> 01:11:12,700 And then the. 1280 01:11:12,780 --> 01:11:17,710 That it would be nice if we could just have both of them on the Geneva side, but. 1281 01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:18,860 Because of. 1282 01:11:18,980 --> 01:11:24,020 Because of you dot regulations, yeah, you can't fit 2 on on the Geneva side. 1283 01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:29,460 So the we specifically worked with UDA on placing the entrance on Geneva. 1284 01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:33,060 And then we would also need the one on 400 S for. 1285 01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:39,260 Second entrance. I feel like there's got to be like some good signage or something. 1286 01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:40,180 You know. 1287 01:11:40,340 --> 01:11:41,500 Kids and. 1288 01:11:41,580 --> 01:11:44,580 And then business traffic like it could. 1289 01:11:45,020 --> 01:11:46,380 Collide and that could. 1290 01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:49,420 Totally. I think the right in. 1291 01:11:49,660 --> 01:11:50,780 Is awesome. 1292 01:11:50,980 --> 01:11:51,740 There, Yeah. 1293 01:11:53,460 --> 01:11:54,820 I hear your concern though. 1294 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,920 Yeah, we could. We could maybe. 1295 01:11:58,100 --> 01:12:02,260 You know, work on something that visually at that 400 S entrance. 1296 01:12:06,030 --> 01:12:08,710 We're also working on a project. 1297 01:12:09,460 --> 01:12:13,625 At the school intersection, at the at the Lakeside Park in school intersection, we're going to realign that intersection and put a 1298 01:12:13,625 --> 01:12:17,790 traffic signal there. 1299 01:12:18,380 --> 01:12:22,460 So that can that will help regulate traffic a little bit as well. 1300 01:12:23,260 --> 01:12:27,940 And then as we, as we spoke previously about the aligning. 1301 01:12:28,060 --> 01:12:30,820 Vineyard Rd. and the parking lot of the school where? 1302 01:12:30,900 --> 01:12:33,220 Where we're looking at options on that as well. 1303 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:41,470 And potentially even if once we get that aligned, we were looking at putting another crosswalk at that point. 1304 01:12:42,220 --> 01:12:46,500 To break that, break that pedestrian path. 1305 01:12:47,340 --> 01:12:47,900 Great. Thanks. 1306 01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:52,150 Are there other questions for staff? 1307 01:12:57,070 --> 01:12:57,390 OK. 1308 01:12:58,740 --> 01:13:00,580 The two-story office space. 1309 01:13:01,260 --> 01:13:03,670 Is that it's now going to be retail? 1310 01:13:04,260 --> 01:13:05,060 Is that correct? 1311 01:13:11,700 --> 01:13:13,140 Who is going to be office? And now it says. 1312 01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:16,180 Retail and then basement. 1313 01:13:16,540 --> 01:13:20,340 Below and the first one didn't have anything about a basement storage. 1314 01:13:20,980 --> 01:13:22,060 I'm just warning. 1315 01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:25,470 Does that upstairs have windows? 1316 01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:28,020 Two, if it's going to be retail. 1317 01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:31,860 It's not going to be retail. From what? 1318 01:13:32,220 --> 01:13:37,020 You know, we had presented it will be just an office for the tire shop as well. 1319 01:13:38,290 --> 01:13:39,890 Unless I have it mistaken. 1320 01:13:41,330 --> 01:13:43,630 Well, on my agenda packet it said it was going to be. 1321 01:13:45,570 --> 01:13:49,790 For the upstairs, I can probably circle back because this is something that. 1322 01:13:49,900 --> 01:13:52,020 I didn't do the full review on. 1323 01:13:52,260 --> 01:13:53,340 The person does not. 1324 01:13:53,660 --> 01:13:56,100 You know, work for the city anymore. 1325 01:13:56,180 --> 01:13:57,180 So I have to. 1326 01:13:57,460 --> 01:14:00,060 You know, I had to work, you know, step in with Rachel. 1327 01:14:00,260 --> 01:14:01,420 To get into. 1328 01:14:01,540 --> 01:14:02,620 Getting it to this point. 1329 01:14:03,820 --> 01:14:06,620 There's something we could talk to them when they come to. 1330 01:14:07,220 --> 01:14:08,660 When it gets to building permit. 1331 01:14:08,820 --> 01:14:11,180 Stuff and like the trees and you know. 1332 01:14:11,620 --> 01:14:15,380 Well, this is the site plan. This is your questions about trees. Now's the time. This is the time. 1333 01:14:15,460 --> 01:14:17,260 For that, OK. 1334 01:14:17,700 --> 01:14:21,020 It says the ground cover the ground is going to be have crushed rock. 1335 01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:24,500 And we're going to have 20 honey locust trees. 1336 01:14:25,580 --> 01:14:26,620 Those trees? 1337 01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:28,190 Are miss. 1338 01:14:30,380 --> 01:14:33,940 They have little tiny leaves and their branches are like twigs. 1339 01:14:34,140 --> 01:14:37,860 And if they're going to fall in that crushed rock? 1340 01:14:38,380 --> 01:14:39,740 That place is going to be ugly. 1341 01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:42,590 As far as? 1342 01:14:43,490 --> 01:14:44,190 Cleaning up. 1343 01:14:44,620 --> 01:14:48,020 It's going to be hard for them to blow out all those leaves and keep it clean. 1344 01:14:48,620 --> 01:14:50,820 The cement when it gets wet. 1345 01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:52,420 People are gonna slip. 1346 01:14:55,420 --> 01:14:56,340 Good luck. 1347 01:14:56,580 --> 01:14:59,820 Not a great treaty for for this. And they are. 1348 01:15:01,060 --> 01:15:02,420 They get to be. 1349 01:15:02,620 --> 01:15:06,260 40 to 50 feet tall and 30 to 35 feet wide. 1350 01:15:07,170 --> 01:15:11,670 So that's going to take up a lot of space and if they're going to be put in the circular. 1351 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:14,240 Concrete thing. 1352 01:15:15,300 --> 01:15:19,180 The concrete is going to raise and you're going to have sidewalk problems and. 1353 01:15:20,020 --> 01:15:20,860 That's just my thought. 1354 01:15:28,020 --> 01:15:28,340 OK. 1355 01:15:31,150 --> 01:15:35,270 I'm trying to think OK I have a whole lot of comments but first anyone else? 1356 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,510 OK, hearing none members of the public. 1357 01:15:42,620 --> 01:15:46,860 That's your time to provide comment on this application, so if you want to head up. 1358 01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:47,630 Come and do it now. 1359 01:15:50,850 --> 01:15:52,750 OK, there you are. 1360 01:15:53,300 --> 01:15:54,180 That's right. 1361 01:15:55,250 --> 01:15:56,990 Russ Levins from the Villas. 1362 01:15:57,460 --> 01:15:59,780 I want to know where the representatives from Guilford Rand are. 1363 01:16:00,910 --> 01:16:02,350 Why aren't they here tonight? 1364 01:16:03,020 --> 01:16:05,100 I mean, there could be something real extenuating. 1365 01:16:05,540 --> 01:16:06,780 But they aren't here. 1366 01:16:06,860 --> 01:16:08,060 That sends a message to me. 1367 01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:10,980 And the honey locust tree we had, we had one in our yard. 1368 01:16:11,420 --> 01:16:14,500 And what she's talking about is true about those honey locust trees. 1369 01:16:15,180 --> 01:16:17,630 So we, we know all about those. Thank you. 1370 01:16:21,420 --> 01:16:21,580 OK. 1371 01:16:24,430 --> 01:16:28,350 All right, ending that, Anthony, you're about to say something and then? 1372 01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:30,660 We I know we have so many more questions. 1373 01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:35,380 I I wanted to say that with the tree concern that you're, you just brought up. 1374 01:16:36,580 --> 01:16:41,300 Would you want us to have a condition in there for them to? I have an idea. 1375 01:16:41,420 --> 01:16:44,660 I'd like to propose on that because I was thinking that's OK. 1376 01:16:44,780 --> 01:16:45,940 Yeah, sure you can. 1377 01:16:46,060 --> 01:16:47,500 All right, first. 1378 01:16:47,580 --> 01:16:50,620 Are, and this is a question for public works and engineering? 1379 01:16:50,740 --> 01:16:55,580 Are any of those proposed trees along the right of way, and therefore it would be? 1380 01:16:55,660 --> 01:16:57,260 The city's responsibility. 1381 01:16:57,380 --> 01:16:58,180 To maintain. 1382 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,720 No. OK, so that is important to note. 1383 01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:05,550 I don't think it is appropriate. 1384 01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:07,220 For us to say. 1385 01:17:08,170 --> 01:17:09,470 That tree's not allowed. 1386 01:17:09,780 --> 01:17:13,940 If we haven't already provided some kind of tree list where it's permitted. 1387 01:17:14,060 --> 01:17:18,140 Tree, can you speak on that? Is it? Yeah. So we did it on the list. 1388 01:17:18,220 --> 01:17:20,020 Usually when we go through all the. 1389 01:17:21,700 --> 01:17:28,180 All the all the trees and plants provided in our landscaping plants. We look at what we have in a tree manual. 1390 01:17:28,580 --> 01:17:31,180 And all this checked the boxes. 1391 01:17:31,420 --> 01:17:34,380 So and they happen to be on private property. 1392 01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:35,740 What I was going to suggest. 1393 01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:38,100 Based on the comment you made, was. 1394 01:17:38,180 --> 01:17:39,420 They could work with our. 1395 01:17:40,260 --> 01:17:41,060 You know city. 1396 01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:45,420 To make some good suggestions because he knows a lot about these. 1397 01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:46,910 So here's how. 1398 01:17:47,020 --> 01:17:48,780 We're going to make that a condition. 1399 01:17:49,140 --> 01:17:54,100 Because originally under that I totally agree they need to work with the arborist and come with. 1400 01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:55,700 Up with the landscape plan. 1401 01:17:55,940 --> 01:17:56,620 That would make. 1402 01:17:56,780 --> 01:18:00,860 Sense, especially with the context of what those trees are doing in the area. 1403 01:18:02,230 --> 01:18:05,910 Right now that's just simply a suggestion in order to make it a condition. 1404 01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:08,580 I would state that they need. 1405 01:18:08,980 --> 01:18:11,660 This would almost become a code enforcement. 1406 01:18:12,140 --> 01:18:12,780 Issue. 1407 01:18:12,860 --> 01:18:14,420 If they are not maintaining it. 1408 01:18:14,780 --> 01:18:15,420 And so. 1409 01:18:16,140 --> 01:18:17,580 If we are seeing. 1410 01:18:17,980 --> 01:18:24,100 Uplifts in the sidewalks, obviously you've got to fix that. That's an ADA issue. But if we're seeing. 1411 01:18:24,300 --> 01:18:25,060 The. 1412 01:18:25,220 --> 01:18:28,460 Droppings of these trees getting out of control, and they're not maintaining it. 1413 01:18:28,820 --> 01:18:32,140 I want to make sure that means they're in violation of this site plan. 1414 01:18:32,220 --> 01:18:33,940 Or of the conditional use permit. 1415 01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:35,870 That's going to get them to change. 1416 01:18:36,180 --> 01:18:39,460 The species of the tree a lot more quickly. 1417 01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:42,940 So that would just be something I would suggest. 1418 01:18:43,180 --> 01:18:48,380 So we hold them to it, not just to get it built the right way, but that they're taking care of it in perpetuity. 1419 01:18:48,620 --> 01:18:49,340 Beyond that? 1420 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,110 And I think we're within. 1421 01:18:52,420 --> 01:18:55,500 Our rights of a Commission to add that as a requirement to. 1422 01:18:55,860 --> 01:18:57,540 The conditions of approval. 1423 01:18:57,580 --> 01:19:01,025 For the site plan and the conditional use permit, more of the site plan, not the conditional use permit. That has nothing to do 1424 01:19:01,025 --> 01:19:04,470 with just the site operations, but their site plan. 1425 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:06,200 OK, umm. 1426 01:19:08,020 --> 01:19:09,180 Go back to Google Maps. 1427 01:19:09,580 --> 01:19:11,260 OK, I'm going to adjust the thing I'm. 1428 01:19:11,820 --> 01:19:12,900 Concerned about? 1429 01:19:12,980 --> 01:19:14,110 What is going? 1430 01:19:14,380 --> 01:19:15,310 I think the people. 1431 01:19:15,420 --> 01:19:17,300 Happiest about this development? 1432 01:19:17,420 --> 01:19:23,340 Are all the parents of the softball and soccer players who park along that road? 1433 01:19:25,190 --> 01:19:31,870 Free parking, absolutely it is right what I want to make sure we do. 1434 01:19:33,190 --> 01:19:37,430 Is if they are going to be putting any kind of restrictions. 1435 01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:39,020 On their parking spaces. 1436 01:19:39,300 --> 01:19:42,420 It is not the city's responsibility to police. 1437 01:19:43,020 --> 01:19:43,980 Monitor that. 1438 01:19:44,220 --> 01:19:47,100 That is purely a business decision. 1439 01:19:47,300 --> 01:19:48,510 For them to do that. 1440 01:19:49,020 --> 01:19:53,060 OK. Is there something in the conditional use permit? 1441 01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:54,780 Where we can say. 1442 01:19:55,970 --> 01:19:58,510 I don't want to tell them that they should reserve spots. 1443 01:19:58,740 --> 01:20:03,100 Hopefully they've done their homework and they know that they should and say it's business parking only but. 1444 01:20:03,180 --> 01:20:04,380 I don't need to require it. 1445 01:20:04,580 --> 01:20:08,020 I just do not want the city to start getting complaints from them. 1446 01:20:08,180 --> 01:20:09,940 Saying people are using my parking lot. 1447 01:20:10,730 --> 01:20:13,810 Right. Can you think of some? 1448 01:20:14,060 --> 01:20:15,180 Kind of. 1449 01:20:15,820 --> 01:20:18,780 I don't know if it needs to be a condition, but some kind of notice. 1450 01:20:18,860 --> 01:20:19,460 That, uh. 1451 01:20:19,780 --> 01:20:22,180 We're not responsible for monitoring their parking lot. 1452 01:20:22,300 --> 01:20:22,860 They are. 1453 01:20:24,210 --> 01:20:25,510 Does that make sense what I'm saying? 1454 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,350 Yeah, that, that makes sense. And I I believe at least to me. 1455 01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:31,980 Yeah, and this OK. 1456 01:20:32,620 --> 01:20:33,140 Yeah. 1457 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,790 Yeah, and it might just be. 1458 01:20:36,860 --> 01:20:40,860 Not even a condition, but some note when you grant the conditional use permit. 1459 01:20:41,020 --> 01:20:41,860 Saying, uh. 1460 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,640 So you know this is your parking lot. Hey, this is nasty Midori Wars director so. 1461 01:20:48,940 --> 01:20:49,620 I think. 1462 01:20:50,740 --> 01:20:54,500 Our chiefs have the Holden or Rockwell would probably be best. 1463 01:20:55,020 --> 01:20:57,780 Pseudo to answer this question directly, SO. 1464 01:20:58,820 --> 01:21:02,900 Cities the city does not monitor and enforce. 1465 01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:05,300 Parking on private property. 1466 01:21:05,980 --> 01:21:08,780 On that So what I would believe. 1467 01:21:08,860 --> 01:21:12,700 I mean, they would probably like they could do if it was. 1468 01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:14,220 A problem was. 1469 01:21:14,900 --> 01:21:16,100 You know, complain to this. 1470 01:21:16,980 --> 01:21:20,020 Vineyard City since they are inside Veneer City about. 1471 01:21:20,140 --> 01:21:21,100 The parking. 1472 01:21:22,140 --> 01:21:24,340 And the park, yeah. 1473 01:21:24,410 --> 01:21:28,530 You know the parking caused by the events in the park, which is run by Orem City. 1474 01:21:28,730 --> 01:21:30,410 Is oozing into their. 1475 01:21:30,530 --> 01:21:31,530 Private parking. 1476 01:21:31,730 --> 01:21:32,730 So the city. 1477 01:21:32,850 --> 01:21:37,650 Would likely get involved in terms of communication to between two parties. 1478 01:21:37,930 --> 01:21:40,170 To help that situation, but we. 1479 01:21:40,450 --> 01:21:40,930 But. 1480 01:21:41,450 --> 01:21:43,810 Technically, that we By law, we would not. 1481 01:21:44,330 --> 01:21:46,970 Enforce parking there. We could put a note in there says that. 1482 01:21:47,210 --> 01:21:49,810 You know to as noted that the. 1483 01:21:49,890 --> 01:21:50,530 Parking. 1484 01:21:50,650 --> 01:21:53,650 And on the property is private parking. 1485 01:21:54,010 --> 01:21:56,530 Or is responsibility of the owner. 1486 01:21:57,250 --> 01:22:00,170 Just like enforcement, as long as we make it abundantly clear. 1487 01:22:00,570 --> 01:22:06,790 Yeah, preferably in writing. Yeah, I think, yeah, what we could do is to get that exact wording on that. Likely just deferred the 1488 01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:13,010 Anthony to talk to our Sheriff's Office to ensure that the wording is proper. I'm sure they've dealt with this problem. 1489 01:22:13,210 --> 01:22:17,150 OK, excellent. That doesn't need to be a condition of approval for their permit or their site plan at all, but I would just 1490 01:22:17,150 --> 01:22:21,090 suggest that staff. 1491 01:22:21,210 --> 01:22:22,620 Meet with them as they're building. 1492 01:22:22,850 --> 01:22:26,530 To well for their conditional use permit. 1493 01:22:27,410 --> 01:22:30,010 Would they need to get approval? 1494 01:22:30,770 --> 01:22:31,730 From this body. 1495 01:22:32,410 --> 01:22:34,460 Before putting up signs that say. 1496 01:22:34,570 --> 01:22:36,770 30 minute parking only or parking for? 1497 01:22:37,210 --> 01:22:38,690 Shopping centers only. 1498 01:22:39,210 --> 01:22:39,730 No. 1499 01:22:39,850 --> 01:22:42,910 There with they'd be within their rights to put any restrictions they want yes, OK, there we go and I would like to add as well 1500 01:22:42,910 --> 01:22:45,970 that. 1501 01:22:46,490 --> 01:22:47,770 I've been in a few meetings. 1502 01:22:48,130 --> 01:22:54,730 You know, that led to this coming to this point and they are aware of this issue of parking in the area. 1503 01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:56,290 And we laughed about it. 1504 01:22:56,450 --> 01:22:58,410 A couple of you know, settings where. 1505 01:22:58,810 --> 01:23:02,050 They they know it's a problem that awaits them. 1506 01:23:02,130 --> 01:23:03,610 So great. 1507 01:23:04,370 --> 01:23:05,690 Because I would park there. 1508 01:23:05,850 --> 01:23:06,490 Immediately, yeah. 1509 01:23:08,470 --> 01:23:09,540 I'll look for your Carney. 1510 01:23:09,690 --> 01:23:13,330 They did mention that there's going to be a very good Taco spot, so. 1511 01:23:13,450 --> 01:23:17,970 You know, get a Taco and just Taco and just park there, you know, to show your receipt. 1512 01:23:18,370 --> 01:23:19,290 You bought Taco? 1513 01:23:21,220 --> 01:23:24,940 Those parking spots could be a cash cow for them. You know, there's a business opportunity. There we go. Makes it, make it 1514 01:23:24,940 --> 01:23:28,660 taxable, right? 1515 01:23:35,930 --> 01:23:37,610 Along with the code enforcement. 1516 01:23:37,690 --> 01:23:38,530 For cleaning. 1517 01:23:41,260 --> 01:23:41,980 Can we? 1518 01:23:42,410 --> 01:23:44,500 Make a strong suggestion that they. 1519 01:23:45,050 --> 01:23:46,850 Collaborate with the city. 1520 01:23:46,930 --> 01:23:47,730 Arborist. Mm-hmm. 1521 01:23:48,690 --> 01:23:51,410 But that's part of the condition that. 1522 01:23:51,690 --> 01:23:53,930 They are responsible for maintaining it. 1523 01:23:54,850 --> 01:23:55,490 But uh. 1524 01:23:56,570 --> 01:24:01,490 We're not going to tie them to this species of tree right now. We recommend you meet with. 1525 01:24:01,570 --> 01:24:03,260 The arborist to come up with a better plan. 1526 01:24:05,180 --> 01:24:06,300 I won't make them change it though. 1527 01:24:06,410 --> 01:24:07,610 If they insist on it. 1528 01:24:07,730 --> 01:24:08,820 And they want to. 1529 01:24:08,930 --> 01:24:13,850 They just weep it every day. All right, go for it. Just gotta know it's high maintenance, yeah. 1530 01:24:14,010 --> 01:24:15,010 For sure. 1531 01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:17,660 Can we? 1532 01:24:17,850 --> 01:24:22,450 Have an answer to Mr. Evans question about why Gilliford Rand is not here? 1533 01:24:24,850 --> 01:24:25,330 Tonight to. 1534 01:24:25,930 --> 01:24:27,010 Be the applicant to speak. 1535 01:24:28,180 --> 01:24:31,640 Anthony's welcome to speak. I know you said earlier there, yeah, they said they were going to be here, but unfortunately no one 1536 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,100 sent notice. 1537 01:24:36,530 --> 01:24:37,770 I'm not sure why. 1538 01:24:39,310 --> 01:24:42,700 Yeah, the owner actually said they were going to be here. 1539 01:24:43,090 --> 01:24:45,210 And the architect as well. 1540 01:24:45,450 --> 01:24:45,970 But umm. 1541 01:24:46,410 --> 01:24:47,050 Again. 1542 01:24:47,810 --> 01:24:48,970 Give us a little off. 1543 01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:50,820 Yes, it is. 1544 01:24:51,170 --> 01:24:53,730 Frankly, to me it's a little off putting. 1545 01:24:54,130 --> 01:24:58,730 Not to have them here, but it's not a legal requirement. Yes, it's not. 1546 01:25:00,290 --> 01:25:01,330 OK. Thank you. 1547 01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:04,460 Do you have any? 1548 01:25:04,810 --> 01:25:06,370 Comments. Questions. 1549 01:25:06,490 --> 01:25:07,770 Is there any that we missed? 1550 01:25:08,700 --> 01:25:12,300 All right, does anyone want to make a motion? 1551 01:25:16,420 --> 01:25:17,740 I will make a motion. 1552 01:25:19,420 --> 01:25:20,140 That the. 1553 01:25:22,340 --> 01:25:23,460 Conditional use. 1554 01:25:23,570 --> 01:25:28,930 Request is approved with the conditions that we've stated in the recommendations. 1555 01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:31,000 May OK. 1556 01:25:34,380 --> 01:25:40,140 You'll approve it along with the conditions as presented. Okay, great. 1557 01:25:41,190 --> 01:25:41,820 Any second. 1558 01:25:44,250 --> 01:25:45,010 All in favor. 1559 01:25:45,130 --> 01:25:46,050 Say aye, aye. 1560 01:25:46,770 --> 01:25:47,370 Any opposed? 1561 01:25:48,460 --> 01:25:52,620 All right. Passes unanimously. Please go on and share that with the applicant. 1562 01:25:54,090 --> 01:25:57,950 All right. Now let's move into our fun work session, our floodplain regulation update and National Flood Insurance Program 1563 01:25:57,950 --> 01:26:01,810 compliance. 1564 01:26:07,370 --> 01:26:09,330 All right. Thank you very much. 1565 01:26:09,690 --> 01:26:12,090 This is part of. 1566 01:26:13,710 --> 01:26:16,910 As I'm getting my computer set up, this is part of a public. 1567 01:26:18,690 --> 01:26:19,730 I have a public. 1568 01:26:20,530 --> 01:26:23,210 Input process that is. 1569 01:26:23,930 --> 01:26:27,570 Was requested for us to hold as required by the state. 1570 01:26:27,970 --> 01:26:31,210 In regards to a new floodplain regulation up. 1571 01:26:31,330 --> 01:26:31,530 Date. 1572 01:26:34,090 --> 01:26:35,130 So mine. 1573 01:26:37,210 --> 01:26:38,370 Sweet. All right. 1574 01:26:38,930 --> 01:26:41,210 So this presentation. 1575 01:26:41,970 --> 01:26:43,010 It has been. 1576 01:26:43,650 --> 01:26:46,090 Include as part of the agenda package. 1577 01:26:47,210 --> 01:26:51,410 Please you can review it through the agenda package or you can look at the screen. 1578 01:26:51,770 --> 01:26:52,570 And, umm. 1579 01:26:53,130 --> 01:26:55,970 Excuse me if you hear any kind of feedback. That's my. 1580 01:26:56,370 --> 01:26:57,290 Hearing aids. 1581 01:26:57,730 --> 01:26:58,970 Kind of going off so. 1582 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,220 And so before you sort. 1583 01:27:02,330 --> 01:27:06,810 Start just to make sure the action that's being requested from us is simply to provide. 1584 01:27:06,930 --> 01:27:13,610 Input exactly. There's no formal action taken. Yes, there's the work. So it's a work session, so there is no action required. 1585 01:27:14,170 --> 01:27:19,170 And it will be. I'll get into it, but a ordinance will be presented to the City Council. 1586 01:27:19,570 --> 01:27:22,090 On June 2nd, scheduled for June 2nd. 1587 01:27:22,370 --> 01:27:23,170 Currently. 1588 01:27:23,410 --> 01:27:29,450 For the City Council to adopt the OR the ordinance and the ordinance has also been provided. 1589 01:27:29,770 --> 01:27:30,610 On the agenda? 1590 01:27:31,890 --> 01:27:34,050 Excuse me on this agenda for review as well. 1591 01:27:34,890 --> 01:27:37,690 This presentation is part of the public input process, and it will. 1592 01:27:37,770 --> 01:27:41,890 Go through the steps of what we're doing, why we're doing it, how we're doing it, and. 1593 01:27:42,170 --> 01:27:44,570 The this main points of the ordinance. 1594 01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:51,390 So this is prepared but not only by myself but Justine Marshall, our Floodplain Manager. CFM means certified Floodplain manager, a 1595 01:27:51,390 --> 01:27:57,850 very title that a test that is hard to get hard to. 1596 01:27:58,170 --> 01:28:00,450 Pass and definitely tell them. Well deserved. 1597 01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:03,590 So the purpose of this is. 1598 01:28:04,170 --> 01:28:07,890 The purpose of this public input and also for the. 1599 01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:10,530 For the update. 1600 01:28:11,530 --> 01:28:15,260 On in this presentation is. Bottom line is for. 1601 01:28:15,650 --> 01:28:20,530 Vineyard City and all other cities who are going through the same process. Excuse me? 1602 01:28:20,770 --> 01:28:26,170 To stay compliant with the FEMA, the federal Federal Emergency Management Agency. 1603 01:28:26,650 --> 01:28:27,450 And the NFL. 1604 01:28:28,730 --> 01:28:32,370 I see the NFIP which is a national flood insurance program. 1605 01:28:33,050 --> 01:28:34,370 Keeps the city eligible. 1606 01:28:34,450 --> 01:28:35,570 For flood insurance. 1607 01:28:35,690 --> 01:28:38,170 Put federal disaster funding. 1608 01:28:38,330 --> 01:28:39,690 Specifically, it's for FEMA. 1609 01:28:39,970 --> 01:28:43,210 As well as grants, which is through FEMA and other resources. 1610 01:28:43,730 --> 01:28:47,210 Bottom line, this is to protect public safety. 1611 01:28:47,330 --> 01:28:49,690 Property and also infrastructure. 1612 01:28:49,810 --> 01:28:52,130 This initiative is being led by the. 1613 01:28:52,330 --> 01:28:56,010 Utah Department of Public Safety, Division of Emergency Management. 1614 01:28:56,130 --> 01:29:00,450 Who spent a lot of time gathering information, all that a lot of data and so forth. 1615 01:29:00,730 --> 01:29:03,210 To put together the proposed updates. 1616 01:29:03,890 --> 01:29:04,530 On this. 1617 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:09,800 So what does floodplain management, just in a nutshell, is this helps regulate? 1618 01:29:11,410 --> 01:29:15,170 Floods, flood and flood zones in short. 1619 01:29:15,570 --> 01:29:19,210 The main purposes of it is to help reduce flood risks. 1620 01:29:19,570 --> 01:29:20,930 This is specifically flood risk. 1621 01:29:21,410 --> 01:29:24,890 Not caused by broken sprinklers or broken. 1622 01:29:25,330 --> 01:29:27,130 Faucets and inside but floods. 1623 01:29:27,210 --> 01:29:29,930 Due to outside. 1624 01:29:30,570 --> 01:29:31,290 Causes. 1625 01:29:31,730 --> 01:29:32,690 Specifically. 1626 01:29:33,650 --> 01:29:35,290 Wetlands or. 1627 01:29:35,410 --> 01:29:37,610 Buys water such as Utah like. 1628 01:29:38,210 --> 01:29:43,770 And of course, trying to help manage long term growth to ensure the as people as. 1629 01:29:44,290 --> 01:29:46,810 Areas grow as develop, and so forth at. 1630 01:29:47,010 --> 01:29:49,250 Public safety is the main focus. 1631 01:29:50,710 --> 01:29:54,740 And loss of life, property damage, and of course, public costs. 1632 01:29:55,450 --> 01:29:58,050 A lot of these pictures that are being shown. 1633 01:29:58,170 --> 01:29:59,970 Are available on the. 1634 01:30:00,370 --> 01:30:01,090 Utah's uh. 1635 01:30:01,810 --> 01:30:03,890 On the Save Utah's website for. 1636 01:30:04,290 --> 01:30:05,850 Other departments of public safety. 1637 01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:08,670 So what records this update? 1638 01:30:10,210 --> 01:30:11,730 Then a new Utah late all. 1639 01:30:12,050 --> 01:30:17,130 Hazard analysis specifically for vineyard the new Utah lake flood hazard analysis. 1640 01:30:17,810 --> 01:30:19,210 It's been it's util. 1641 01:30:19,850 --> 01:30:23,010 This analysis was led by the state of. 1642 01:30:23,250 --> 01:30:25,050 Department of Public Safety. 1643 01:30:25,570 --> 01:30:28,890 It used updated FEMA data and modeling. 1644 01:30:29,250 --> 01:30:31,530 And the main things it does is it. 1645 01:30:31,930 --> 01:30:33,410 Has changed inclusive. 1646 01:30:33,490 --> 01:30:34,610 Changes to. 1647 01:30:34,730 --> 01:30:35,730 Lake levels. 1648 01:30:35,930 --> 01:30:37,690 Wave action, so when? 1649 01:30:38,370 --> 01:30:40,570 We predominantly see it around here. 1650 01:30:40,810 --> 01:30:44,930 When with high winds and especially in the winter time when we had the stacking of the ice. 1651 01:30:45,610 --> 01:30:47,090 Slates that's. 1652 01:30:47,210 --> 01:30:48,970 They're very easy, realistic. 1653 01:30:49,850 --> 01:30:51,370 View what wave actions are. 1654 01:30:51,650 --> 01:30:53,770 And of course, flood elevations. 1655 01:30:53,850 --> 01:30:56,130 How high the flood wires go. 1656 01:30:56,530 --> 01:30:58,250 This year we're not expecting. 1657 01:30:58,330 --> 01:30:59,690 High elevations of. 1658 01:30:59,850 --> 01:31:01,570 Utah Lake, but in previous years. 1659 01:31:02,210 --> 01:31:05,530 I believe it was 2023. We've had quite a. 1660 01:31:05,890 --> 01:31:11,170 High elevations on util light on Utah Lake. What this does is evaluates and. 1661 01:31:11,290 --> 01:31:15,090 Right here is quite simply the 100 year flood and then the 500 year flood. 1662 01:31:15,650 --> 01:31:20,090 What that says is a chance of a high level flood is. 1663 01:31:20,170 --> 01:31:23,290 Once every 100 years or once every 500 years? 1664 01:31:23,490 --> 01:31:24,410 Doesn't mean that. 1665 01:31:24,610 --> 01:31:26,770 If it happens once, it won't happen again. 1666 01:31:27,090 --> 01:31:30,010 100 years from now or 500 years from now, I. 1667 01:31:31,450 --> 01:31:33,850 My previous city I I came from Florida. 1668 01:31:34,210 --> 01:31:35,890 I've experienced 100 year flood. 1669 01:31:36,010 --> 01:31:37,450 Probably 3 times in one year. 1670 01:31:38,490 --> 01:31:39,770 It's not fun. 1671 01:31:40,820 --> 01:31:41,660 But that's. 1672 01:31:41,730 --> 01:31:45,370 Pretty much saying this is a this is a chance of it happening 1%. 1673 01:31:46,170 --> 01:31:48,970 Happening three times in one year. 1% was for the. 1674 01:31:49,250 --> 01:31:53,590 Pretty far on the on the right, there's a historical flooding and flooding disaster declarations in Utah and this has a 1675 01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:57,930 historical. 1676 01:31:58,970 --> 01:32:01,650 Kind of picture showing that. 1677 01:32:02,250 --> 01:32:07,450 What ultimately the goal is that if a declarations. 1678 01:32:09,370 --> 01:32:14,490 As a flood decoration is done, it has as minimal damage as possible. 1679 01:32:14,610 --> 01:32:17,330 Typically if it's a state level declaration. 1680 01:32:17,570 --> 01:32:21,170 It reaches a threshold of X amount of dollars of damage. 1681 01:32:21,610 --> 01:32:24,450 And if we can minimize that decoration. 1682 01:32:25,170 --> 01:32:27,930 By doing all the by doing these. 1683 01:32:28,170 --> 01:32:29,290 Measures up front. 1684 01:32:29,810 --> 01:32:31,170 It's better for the community. 1685 01:32:31,250 --> 01:32:32,220 Embarrass for the state. 1686 01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,340 Moving on Vineyard specific updates. 1687 01:32:36,850 --> 01:32:42,290 We've, you know, I would hope that everyone who lives in Vineyard is obvious to them. 1688 01:32:42,690 --> 01:32:45,850 There is. We have a large body right next to us. 1689 01:32:47,250 --> 01:32:48,570 You know those comes with a. 1690 01:32:49,330 --> 01:32:54,370 Pros and Cons The pros is this very beautiful lake for you know it provides towards a quality of life etc. The Collins is you know 1691 01:32:54,370 --> 01:32:59,410 obviously when it comes to flood it is a. 1692 01:33:00,490 --> 01:33:01,450 Source of flooding. 1693 01:33:02,050 --> 01:33:08,690 So the flood impact shoreline properties, infrastructure specifically, we do have lift stations that are long. 1694 01:33:09,410 --> 01:33:11,330 Within vineyards. So we do. 1695 01:33:11,770 --> 01:33:15,810 Maintain Ensure that flooding does not impact our lift stations. 1696 01:33:16,170 --> 01:33:16,810 Which? 1697 01:33:17,050 --> 01:33:18,530 Conveys a sore to. 1698 01:33:19,530 --> 01:33:21,210 The area away from the public. 1699 01:33:21,610 --> 01:33:23,850 And of course, public access, specifically roads. 1700 01:33:25,230 --> 01:33:29,005 What is the city required to do the city, and not to spend your city but all cities, is required to adopt updated floodplain 1701 01:33:29,005 --> 01:33:32,780 regulations. 1702 01:33:33,210 --> 01:33:36,130 Make sure that they're regulating development and flood areas. 1703 01:33:36,530 --> 01:33:39,290 To ensure structures are protected specifically. 1704 01:33:40,010 --> 01:33:41,250 And of course. 1705 01:33:42,370 --> 01:33:46,650 We do that through ensuring that we're issuing permits specifically for. 1706 01:33:47,690 --> 01:33:49,210 Development in flood plains. 1707 01:33:49,690 --> 01:33:51,090 So specific permits. 1708 01:33:51,290 --> 01:33:54,010 Addressing developments that would be in a floodplain. 1709 01:33:54,250 --> 01:33:58,490 Because we need to consider public safety, development impacts and, of course, compliance. 1710 01:33:59,310 --> 01:34:01,420 Here is a snapshot of the. 1711 01:34:01,530 --> 01:34:02,930 Proposed flood map. 1712 01:34:03,530 --> 01:34:05,530 Specifically for vineyards. 1713 01:34:06,090 --> 01:34:07,530 This is 2026. 1714 01:34:08,010 --> 01:34:08,930 Preliminary map. 1715 01:34:09,010 --> 01:34:10,130 There's a link. 1716 01:34:10,250 --> 01:34:13,770 On the bottom I actually I do have the website open on my computer I can. 1717 01:34:14,090 --> 01:34:14,850 I'm happy. 1718 01:34:15,130 --> 01:34:16,890 Now or afterwards? 1719 01:34:16,970 --> 01:34:18,690 Or even after the. 1720 01:34:18,770 --> 01:34:19,930 Planning Commission is over. 1721 01:34:20,210 --> 01:34:21,570 To walk anyone through. 1722 01:34:22,410 --> 01:34:24,010 Through the map itself. 1723 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,680 But kind of just a snapshot, the flood hazards and vineyards are. 1724 01:34:30,210 --> 01:34:33,010 The shoreline along Utah Lake along the West. 1725 01:34:33,810 --> 01:34:38,050 Not specifically in vineyards, but does affect the vineyards. Linden Marina. 1726 01:34:38,410 --> 01:34:39,730 As well as. 1727 01:34:39,890 --> 01:34:43,890 Portions of the lakeside power plant and a small portion kind of tearing. 1728 01:34:44,010 --> 01:34:45,850 On the Northside, where the. 1729 01:34:46,530 --> 01:34:47,490 Yard would be. 1730 01:34:47,970 --> 01:34:49,970 Those are the main areas of for. 1731 01:34:50,290 --> 01:34:51,490 Where flood hazards. 1732 01:34:52,410 --> 01:34:53,650 Have been identified. 1733 01:34:54,090 --> 01:34:57,970 Everything else, the Blues is where. 1734 01:34:58,130 --> 01:34:59,370 The identification are. 1735 01:35:00,170 --> 01:35:02,570 But those are technically outside. 1736 01:35:04,340 --> 01:35:07,580 So what people are able to do is. 1737 01:35:08,250 --> 01:35:11,170 Go to this map and kind of zoom into their areas. 1738 01:35:11,290 --> 01:35:12,810 And kind of see. 1739 01:35:13,610 --> 01:35:15,210 FEMA also has a website. 1740 01:35:15,290 --> 01:35:18,250 Where you can actually where you can enter into enter an address. 1741 01:35:18,650 --> 01:35:21,490 And kind of see your address specifically. 1742 01:35:21,610 --> 01:35:26,650 On the when I'm support, yeah. And this is not just for Utah specific, this is nationwide. 1743 01:35:27,330 --> 01:35:27,730 As well. 1744 01:35:29,170 --> 01:35:34,310 So jumping into what the proposed ordinance, so make sure it was draft. It doesn't take any effect until the City Council 1745 01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:39,450 officially adopts it. We anticipate June. 1746 01:35:40,050 --> 01:35:44,810 As the number one thing it does is it aligns. 1747 01:35:45,370 --> 01:35:48,490 Vener City with the National Flood Insurance Program. 1748 01:35:49,050 --> 01:35:50,650 This is important to the public. 1749 01:35:50,850 --> 01:35:53,650 And of course been your city is a help allows. 1750 01:35:53,810 --> 01:35:57,530 To maintain the eligibility for federally backed flood insurance. 1751 01:35:57,970 --> 01:35:59,170 So if you if. 1752 01:35:59,690 --> 01:36:03,010 Your homeowners are able to get flood insurance. 1753 01:36:03,090 --> 01:36:05,810 Even if they don't live specifically in a flood zone. 1754 01:36:06,410 --> 01:36:08,130 If you live in a floodplain zone. 1755 01:36:08,850 --> 01:36:10,570 Not so much here in Utah, but. 1756 01:36:11,250 --> 01:36:13,090 I dealt with this quite a bit in Florida. 1757 01:36:14,130 --> 01:36:17,250 You know mortgage companies require. 1758 01:36:17,370 --> 01:36:19,930 The flood insurance to be to to. 1759 01:36:20,010 --> 01:36:21,370 To have flood insurance. 1760 01:36:21,810 --> 01:36:26,290 And then of course and I've had there's instances where. 1761 01:36:26,410 --> 01:36:28,650 Insurance companies kind of go into the whole. 1762 01:36:28,850 --> 01:36:32,530 How did the water damage enter the house in Utah? We do have those basements for there's not, but how water interests of the 1763 01:36:32,530 --> 01:36:36,210 house. 1764 01:36:36,330 --> 01:36:37,290 Is important. 1765 01:36:38,130 --> 01:36:40,530 And these are federally backed insurance programs. 1766 01:36:40,930 --> 01:36:42,930 It adopts FEMA flood maps. 1767 01:36:43,010 --> 01:36:45,090 Which is which takes effect. 1768 01:36:45,170 --> 01:36:47,130 June 23rd, 2026. 1769 01:36:47,410 --> 01:36:51,890 As the basis for the floodplain management, So what? So what this ordinance does is. 1770 01:36:51,970 --> 01:36:54,700 Says that we're utilizing these maps, which is. 1771 01:36:54,930 --> 01:36:58,370 On the previous slide, the proposed map on the on the GIS website. 1772 01:36:58,770 --> 01:36:59,370 Which? 1773 01:37:00,050 --> 01:37:02,370 Was put together by the state of Utah. 1774 01:37:02,490 --> 01:37:03,970 Using the FEMA data. 1775 01:37:05,930 --> 01:37:08,890 In order to use that as a basis to. 1776 01:37:09,010 --> 01:37:10,370 How we drive our. 1777 01:37:11,730 --> 01:37:12,770 Regulations. 1778 01:37:13,450 --> 01:37:16,650 And what areas have to abide to those? 1779 01:37:16,770 --> 01:37:17,930 Flood regulations. 1780 01:37:18,170 --> 01:37:22,690 And of course it requires A floodplain development permits for any development inside a flood. 1781 01:37:22,770 --> 01:37:24,010 Hazard Area. 1782 01:37:24,090 --> 01:37:25,090 That is something that. 1783 01:37:26,650 --> 01:37:32,090 Patrick and myself and the planners as well as the building department handle on our side. 1784 01:37:32,930 --> 01:37:37,530 Bottom line, it takes make sure that's a. Structures within these areas are. 1785 01:37:37,730 --> 01:37:38,450 Equal to. 1786 01:37:38,890 --> 01:37:44,570 Their finished floor, so the Congress. So when you walk into the livable areas, the concrete elevation. 1787 01:37:44,690 --> 01:37:48,090 Is at least one foot above the base flood elevation. 1788 01:37:49,210 --> 01:37:50,290 They're designed. 1789 01:37:50,410 --> 01:37:52,530 To resist flood forces as well. 1790 01:37:53,930 --> 01:37:55,570 Residential as well as commercial. 1791 01:37:56,570 --> 01:38:00,170 And they're utilizing certain specific. 1792 01:38:00,690 --> 01:38:02,250 Materials. Utilities. 1793 01:38:02,650 --> 01:38:04,730 And that the impacts that. 1794 01:38:05,770 --> 01:38:08,610 Excuse me that when they do the development that it's not changing. 1795 01:38:09,010 --> 01:38:10,930 The floodplain. 1796 01:38:11,010 --> 01:38:13,770 Zones that you know what they do does not impact. 1797 01:38:14,170 --> 01:38:15,050 Their neighbor. 1798 01:38:15,210 --> 01:38:17,170 Like put and this is. 1799 01:38:18,010 --> 01:38:19,930 A lot of this, a lot of this is common. 1800 01:38:20,930 --> 01:38:23,650 Would be considered common sense. 1801 01:38:24,010 --> 01:38:26,010 You know you don't want to impact your neighbor by pushing. 1802 01:38:26,250 --> 01:38:29,130 While causing increasing. 1803 01:38:29,410 --> 01:38:30,890 The floodplain on their. 1804 01:38:31,250 --> 01:38:34,330 On theirs, that actually has civil implications. 1805 01:38:35,130 --> 01:38:38,290 You know, if you're building inside an area with that. 1806 01:38:38,450 --> 01:38:39,890 I could be prone to flooding. 1807 01:38:40,250 --> 01:38:41,690 The course you want to use. 1808 01:38:42,090 --> 01:38:45,050 Proper materials, putting proper utilities. 1809 01:38:45,250 --> 01:38:47,010 And of course you want the structure to. 1810 01:38:47,450 --> 01:38:48,210 Resist. 1811 01:38:49,050 --> 01:38:50,250 Being damaged from flooding. 1812 01:38:50,610 --> 01:38:56,610 And then the elevation. Of course you don't want the water to go inside, however this codifies it specifically. 1813 01:38:57,130 --> 01:38:59,370 And I can say in Florida where? 1814 01:38:59,450 --> 01:39:00,850 Flooding is more prevalent. 1815 01:39:01,210 --> 01:39:03,090 The 12 inches above the. 1816 01:39:03,650 --> 01:39:05,890 Base flood elevation is very common. 1817 01:39:06,330 --> 01:39:09,810 Some areas have it 18 inches, some areas have 24 inches. 1818 01:39:10,530 --> 01:39:12,330 24 inches is pretty excessive. 1819 01:39:12,650 --> 01:39:16,770 18 inches and Florida is kind of the norm, but again we're talking about areas that. 1820 01:39:17,170 --> 01:39:18,370 See 100 year flood. 1821 01:39:18,970 --> 01:39:20,370 Every other year, apparently. 1822 01:39:21,180 --> 01:39:21,740 On that. 1823 01:39:24,900 --> 01:39:27,100 So the additional thing it does. 1824 01:39:27,210 --> 01:39:32,770 Is on the Ministry of Enforcement. This actually goes a couple steps above. Is it? 1825 01:39:33,090 --> 01:39:35,770 I identify as a public works director or designee. 1826 01:39:36,490 --> 01:39:38,410 As a floodplain administrator. 1827 01:39:38,490 --> 01:39:40,570 In essence, what they do, what it says, is that. 1828 01:39:41,330 --> 01:39:44,890 This that there's an entity that actually makes the call. 1829 01:39:45,290 --> 01:39:47,930 On when it comes to flat plane decisions. 1830 01:39:48,890 --> 01:39:50,290 My last city in Florida. 1831 01:39:50,370 --> 01:39:52,090 We actually have flop doesn't a. 1832 01:39:53,690 --> 01:39:56,890 A person that was a floodplain manager, it was a specific role. 1833 01:39:57,250 --> 01:39:58,610 For the. 1834 01:39:58,890 --> 01:40:05,090 Purpose, you know, don't want to get too much, get us through the planners. But she was she, she was a planner. 1835 01:40:05,290 --> 01:40:08,850 And was a very good floodplain manager and she was also the assistant. 1836 01:40:09,050 --> 01:40:10,410 Emergency Manager. 1837 01:40:10,930 --> 01:40:14,050 So she was very in tune to a lot of that stuff, but. 1838 01:40:14,250 --> 01:40:15,370 At the end of the day. 1839 01:40:16,170 --> 01:40:18,450 The final decision making. 1840 01:40:18,570 --> 01:40:21,530 What it fell on to me as a public works director in Florida. 1841 01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:25,860 The city is responsible for reviewing development. 1842 01:40:26,170 --> 01:40:28,210 The development proposals. 1843 01:40:28,290 --> 01:40:29,850 Maintaining records. 1844 01:40:30,290 --> 01:40:32,730 And they're coordinating with FEMA state agencies. 1845 01:40:33,090 --> 01:40:37,610 The first and third one really doesn't change. The third, the one, the second one. 1846 01:40:37,890 --> 01:40:39,210 Is really just kind of. 1847 01:40:40,010 --> 01:40:44,010 Making sure that it's codified, that it puts the responsibilities on the city. 1848 01:40:45,050 --> 01:40:48,730 Luckily and gratefully, we have an awesome building department. 1849 01:40:49,850 --> 01:40:55,930 Team that is very meticulous when it comes to record keeping. So we don't foresee any additional. 1850 01:40:56,170 --> 01:40:57,850 In essence, additional work on the city. 1851 01:40:58,530 --> 01:41:00,850 But that was also put some additional. 1852 01:41:01,730 --> 01:41:03,490 Tools into our toolbox. 1853 01:41:03,810 --> 01:41:05,810 Allows us to have stopped work orders. 1854 01:41:06,250 --> 01:41:11,050 As well as fines for $1000 per day in jail time for violations of. 1855 01:41:11,210 --> 01:41:13,170 Public Works is not planning on building in jail. 1856 01:41:13,570 --> 01:41:15,610 In our facility, so we are. 1857 01:41:16,290 --> 01:41:21,570 Just looking we would just really really be looking at working with code enforcement for fines, the stop work orders. 1858 01:41:21,890 --> 01:41:25,930 On this before, what we would do is we would use public health as our. 1859 01:41:26,010 --> 01:41:26,770 Mechanism. 1860 01:41:26,970 --> 01:41:31,090 For a stop work order or work with our building official. 1861 01:41:31,490 --> 01:41:32,650 This ordinance. 1862 01:41:33,050 --> 01:41:37,970 Which is a model from this state. Which is the model. We use the model from the state. 1863 01:41:38,250 --> 01:41:39,410 Would actually allow. 1864 01:41:39,570 --> 01:41:42,730 A stop work order from the Public Works director specifically. 1865 01:41:43,770 --> 01:41:44,570 For this reason. 1866 01:41:45,420 --> 01:41:45,980 On that. 1867 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:52,480 Talking about the public process, where there's a public process period, we've posted on our website, but it's from May 1st to May 1868 01:41:52,480 --> 01:41:56,360 31st. 1869 01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,480 And kind of outlying. 1870 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:02,040 We're having our public here our. 1871 01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:03,360 Public input period. 1872 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:06,720 Through multiple means. 1873 01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:10,000 One of the means is through the Planning Commission where we're presenting. 1874 01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:15,970 The public can submit comments, attend meetings which is this one, speak in person which if anyone would like to. 1875 01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,120 But they all can also provide input. 1876 01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:19,040 Online, Uh. 1877 01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:23,520 Or by e-mail or physically and in the mail. 1878 01:42:24,350 --> 01:42:24,870 On that. 1879 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:26,840 We have a link on our. 1880 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,200 On a social media where they can do. 1881 01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:30,370 I'll do that as well. 1882 01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:35,900 So this is what we've gotten from what we refer from the public so far. This is across Utah. This is not specifically for 1883 01:42:35,900 --> 01:42:39,760 Vineyard. 1884 01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:41,160 But here are some questions. 1885 01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,000 People have said the map is hard to use. 1886 01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,160 Some I would sometimes agree with. 1887 01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:52,120 But they've made it there's, they've taken that and tried making it. 1888 01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,160 Love it, easier to use. 1889 01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:55,880 The website, the link that we have. 1890 01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,360 Is the Utah County. 1891 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,160 Did a great job with making a much friendly user map. 1892 01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,080 This the. 1893 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:05,320 Map as you know. 1894 01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:10,600 I was, hopefully they're not listening to me right now, but it's kind of par with the federal government. 1895 01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:11,680 They make it hard to use. 1896 01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:16,160 If it's not hard, impossible to use, then it's not the federal government's map. 1897 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,680 But Detox County has a great floodplain interactive map. 1898 01:43:20,650 --> 01:43:21,490 On that SO. 1899 01:43:22,890 --> 01:43:26,790 And a lot of people get this question, we get this question, I want to say a lot, but we do get this questions that do I have to 1900 01:43:26,790 --> 01:43:30,690 get flood insurance? 1901 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:36,040 If you ever call our office and ask us that question, we will never say yes. We will never say no, but we say that. 1902 01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:37,840 We will always tell people that it is. 1903 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,560 You're right to get the flood insurance even if you're told not to. 1904 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:43,080 If you're told you have to. 1905 01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:45,880 Then obviously there might be a reason as to why. 1906 01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:50,000 The city does not require flood insurance. 1907 01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:52,560 However, lenders are typically the ones that do. 1908 01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,720 Required if you own your home free and clear. 1909 01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,680 And you choose not to get flood insurance. That's a risk. 1910 01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:00,240 That people take. 1911 01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:01,410 Depending on what's going on. 1912 01:44:02,210 --> 01:44:03,530 And where you're located. 1913 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,320 Which map should I use? 1914 01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:10,440 The updated map which will be effective June 23rd. 1915 01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:12,600 A20002026. 1916 01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,120 Is the map. Is the map to use. 1917 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:17,200 Why is this changing? 1918 01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:22,840 Bottom line, there's been updated data that's been made available from from FEMA. 1919 01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:27,920 And this these maps and this process is taking that into. 1920 01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,560 It's always good to get to use. 1921 01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:35,880 It's always good to use more updated information as modeling gets more advanced. 1922 01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:41,960 Bottom line, we are not increasing risk, we're just better understanding it. So that's what the map says. 1923 01:44:42,480 --> 01:44:45,400 And then the last one is, can the city fix this? 1924 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,720 He asked the engineers. We always say we can always. We can fix anything as long as you were given enough resources and allowed 1925 01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,880 to. 1926 01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:53,960 Very much. 1927 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,640 Demo or anything? Anything we're allowed to but. 1928 01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,920 Bottom line, the regulations are based on risk, not just infrastructure. 1929 01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,760 We do have, we do put a lot of infrastructure into the ground, storm drains. 1930 01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:10,360 Infrastructure, we have pumps specifically around our lift stations and so forth. 1931 01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:13,400 To ensure that we're protecting our critical infrastructure. 1932 01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:20,360 And but there are kind of acceptable, I would hate to say acceptable risks as well. 1933 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:25,560 One, I would say, and this is not so much here in Utah, but for example, Florida. 1934 01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,520 A good example the 100 with when 100 year flood comes along. 1935 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:35,130 The part of the flooding, acceptable flooding, is the streets. 1936 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:36,160 We have. 1937 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,880 Max. So the crown of the road and. 1938 01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,640 Is where the 100 year flood will go up to. 1939 01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:42,880 Which allows. 1940 01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,560 Emergency vehicles to navigate the streets. 1941 01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:46,640 However. 1942 01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:48,400 You know, the streets do have water and it's. 1943 01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,240 And that is just comes down to. 1944 01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:56,680 Kind of a the cost benefit of what if you try to build the streets so high up that. 1945 01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:58,400 They're above the 100 year flood. 1946 01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:00,840 Then, of course, the costs have to go somewhere. 1947 01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:06,000 On that, that's just an example, example of how we've tried to balance a safety. 1948 01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:08,280 And, of course, fiscal responsibility. 1949 01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:10,440 What we do is we ensure that. 1950 01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:14,280 Homes, property and lives are protected. 1951 01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:15,440 Was #1. 1952 01:46:18,330 --> 01:46:23,010 So what does this mean in vineyards? Future developments must meet these requirements, so. 1953 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,160 That we evaluate what we've already talked about Alpine. 1954 01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:28,760 You would ask, why wouldn't they? 1955 01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,440 I would ask the same question. Why wouldn't they either? 1956 01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,480 But this is. This codifies it. 1957 01:46:34,330 --> 01:46:35,490 The impact of the public. 1958 01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:39,045 This changes the flood zones and vineyards. There's minimal changes specifically, however I always encourage people to look at the 1959 01:46:39,045 --> 01:46:42,490 maps themselves. 1960 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:43,770 To get more details. 1961 01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,900 New building requirements such as being the finished floor of the house or the buildings should be 12 inches above the 100 year 1962 01:46:47,900 --> 01:46:51,400 flood. 1963 01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:54,520 Like the flood? 1964 01:46:56,600 --> 01:47:01,560 But that's only for new building permits or if there's major renovations. Those are typically. 1965 01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:06,100 The threshold is done typically through the building official and what that threshold would be if there had to be any kind of 1966 01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:09,600 modifications to a building. 1967 01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,720 Again, the question comes down to is why wouldn't someone want to build their building? 1968 01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:15,330 In a way that protects their building. 1969 01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:17,320 This disqualifies it. 1970 01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,640 Potential insurance impacts. 1971 01:47:20,480 --> 01:47:23,040 I my opinion is I don't see many. 1972 01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,520 If any in Vineyard City specifically. 1973 01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,800 Other cities such as Provost City. 1974 01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:32,720 Maybe Saratoga Springs and so forth may be seeing a lot more of the changes impacts. We we went through something similar with the 1975 01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:36,600 updating on maps for. 1976 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:37,840 Fire hazards. 1977 01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:43,760 Where there was a lot of APACS, changes of impacts for fire hazards. 1978 01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:45,000 For structures. 1979 01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:49,480 Along like areas where the foothills like Springville etc. Bigger city. 1980 01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,280 Is a great location where. 1981 01:47:52,440 --> 01:47:53,280 We're kind of in the. 1982 01:47:53,480 --> 01:47:54,680 Perfect hub where? 1983 01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,360 We are kind of protected by a lot of these things. 1984 01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:01,160 Bottom line, does not affect. Not all properties are affected, but. 1985 01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:05,040 This is the public input to ensure that people have the ability to see this. 1986 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:10,320 So debate takeaways is the ordinance is required. 1987 01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,320 Clients tied to FEMA. 1988 01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:14,880 Map updates. 1989 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,000 What it does is it protects infrastructure investments. 1990 01:48:19,250 --> 01:48:24,730 It also allows us to have continued, allows the community to have continued access. 1991 01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:28,360 To flood insurance and federal funding eligibility. 1992 01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,760 Provides clear regulatory regulation. 1993 01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:32,840 Framework. 1994 01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,520 For developments and flood prone areas. 1995 01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:41,240 AS shifts the risk mitigation to upfront design and construction. 1996 01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,240 Rather than post disaster costs. 1997 01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,880 This kind of this follows. This is important falls into the. 1998 01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:50,080 Have the people of the builders have the original. 1999 01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:51,080 Developers etc. 2000 01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:53,520 Pay for items that. 2001 01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:55,200 Or. 2002 01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:57,960 The construction and designs. 2003 01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:00,800 To make things safer versus try to do it in the rear. 2004 01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:02,160 After the fact. 2005 01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,320 I've been in situations on this city. 2006 01:49:05,440 --> 01:49:07,080 Fortunately, but where? 2007 01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:11,040 All developments and so forth were the cities bearing the cost to. 2008 01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:13,600 Bear the R2. 2009 01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:17,160 Pay an infrastructure to protect the home and such. 2010 01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:18,640 And it is. 2011 01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,040 A heart is a hard cost to to bear. 2012 01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:25,040 Regardless, and that's where we have grants. 2013 01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:26,720 However, we like to use the grab money. 2014 01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:28,800 Towards other things versus? 2015 01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:30,840 Something that could have been prevented. 2016 01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:31,960 On that. 2017 01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:36,060 And then the adoption, excuse me, it keeps the city in good standing with the National Flood Insurance Program we always want to 2018 01:49:36,060 --> 01:49:39,640 be. 2019 01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:41,720 Have good standing with insurance companies. 2020 01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:47,840 Now usually that's usually a no win scenario whenever you fight against insurance companies I think. 2021 01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:52,400 But keeps us a good standing also helps allow having these ordinance helps. 2022 01:49:53,440 --> 01:49:55,280 Keep insurance cost for a flood. 2023 01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:56,280 Insurance costs. 2024 01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:57,320 Lower. 2025 01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:00,760 As well, we don't see it here in Utah as much, but. 2026 01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:02,880 Now for them. 2027 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,000 Another example for example, but there's great like you know we have. 2028 01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,680 CRS score. You know the numbers the scores were. 2029 01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:12,320 Do where the cities try to do things to help. 2030 01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:13,440 Lower the score. 2031 01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:15,320 Down because it does affect a. 2032 01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:16,480 Citywide. 2033 01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:17,240 On that. 2034 01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:22,400 And that establishes clear and enforceable development standards. 2035 01:50:23,450 --> 01:50:25,970 That is the end of my presentation. Do you have any questions? 2036 01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:29,350 Thank you so much for that Nasim. 2037 01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:33,280 Just a quick clarification with it. 2038 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:35,560 This has been. 2039 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:39,200 Reviewed by the city attorney and it already. 2040 01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,800 Complies with Allstate and federal requirements. 2041 01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,160 So I have. 2042 01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:49,720 And forgive me for not having the answer right away, I know that this. 2043 01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:51,000 Draft that we've. 2044 01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:52,360 We provide that we have. 2045 01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:58,920 Has gone to the state so that we use the state ordinance. So the state provided. 2046 01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:00,120 It's their standard. 2047 01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:04,640 Yeah, the state, in essence provides the standards of the ordinance they gave us. 2048 01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:10,120 Want the base standard or a very strict standard? We went with the base standard. 2049 01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:13,680 On it then, fortunately enough for us, it was fill in the blank. 2050 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,600 OK, we're like we like fill in the blank type standards I. 2051 01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:24,800 Especially when it comes to floodplain, but to but to answer that question specifically and to the point, we will make sure that 2052 01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:30,960 the attorney prior to go State Council has had the chance to provide an opinion on it. 2053 01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,840 OK, second question, is this an update to an existing? 2054 01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:37,800 Floodplain ordinance or is this brand spanking new? 2055 01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,880 So the cities of flood ordinance. 2056 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:46,240 I would say has had a flood codes and regulations however. 2057 01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,640 This would be more of a major overhaul. 2058 01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:53,000 In terms of, in terms of that and also if it was brand new. 2059 01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:54,840 In essence, yes, and also. 2060 01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,400 Puts the cities on a baseline. 2061 01:51:57,440 --> 01:51:58,600 This is where it's going to be. 2062 01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,040 Versus having cities out on their own. 2063 01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:05,760 Well, that's great. So you're not going to get any builders or contractors saying, oh, vineyards hard to deal with. 2064 01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,880 We're doing the same thing that ORM and Provo and Linda everyone else is doing. 2065 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:17,760 So we we also attended the Today, we actually attended the Home Builders Association government Paris meeting. 2066 01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:20,000 Along with our building official. 2067 01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:21,840 Where builders? 2068 01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:25,080 Vocalizer. 2069 01:52:25,970 --> 01:52:26,730 Grievances. 2070 01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,560 Towards cities regulations, and this has not been one of them. 2071 01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:31,520 OK, wonderful. 2072 01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:33,280 Are there any other questions? 2073 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:37,120 I just want to make sure the adoption of this ordinance. 2074 01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:41,520 Become in effect on June 2nd when the City Council adopts it. So the adoption of the ordinance, they'll adopt the ordinance on 2075 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:45,480 June 2nd. 2076 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:51,320 When it's presented but the maps are not effective till June 23rd. Well. 2077 01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:56,320 June 23rd will technically be the where is where it will be effective. 2078 01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,920 Well, it's an ordinance, so there's two readings. So the first one would be. 2079 01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:04,160 June 2nd, yes went there and then the second ones ratify. It will be the second meeting in June. 2080 01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,960 OK. So yeah, so you correct me. Thank you, Sir. 2081 01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:14,480 I got I'm going to make sure I go back and update my staff report for the City Council. But yes, Sir. 2082 01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:15,320 OK. 2083 01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,160 Great. Any others? 2084 01:53:17,940 --> 01:53:22,770 Is there any community engagement or education or like? 2085 01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:24,040 Training of sorts. 2086 01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:25,600 With this at all? Like, yeah. 2087 01:53:26,440 --> 01:53:27,280 Yeah, OK. 2088 01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:33,550 Yes, that's a FEMA website. I'm just curious like how we get the word out if in case of an emergency. I know that like locally 2089 01:53:33,550 --> 01:53:39,340 they're groups and that's a good question. And so in terms of this ordinance, this is specifically talking about new construction 2090 01:53:39,340 --> 01:53:45,130 and new developments. 2091 01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:47,560 Specifically. 2092 01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:49,560 To probably. 2093 01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:50,560 So. 2094 01:53:52,480 --> 01:53:53,640 Excuse me, the. 2095 01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,560 Public input on social media and also. 2096 01:53:57,720 --> 01:53:59,000 With this planning. 2097 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:04,320 Is in essence the limit on this because it's really kind of affecting developers and builders. 2098 01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:04,960 Specific. 2099 01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,520 The in order to do some public engagement for. 2100 01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:15,450 What to do if you're affected by flood and those type of emergencies scenarios? 2101 01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:20,760 That's the type of public engagement of course we get to have for with the community. 2102 01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:26,820 But that's not what this is specifically talking about. Yeah. OK. But yeah. And, and FEMA does have actually Utah, the state of 2103 01:54:26,820 --> 01:54:32,200 Utah's Public Department of Public Safety, it does have. 2104 01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:34,360 Very good resources on. 2105 01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,480 What to do if you happen to be in a flood? 2106 01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:38,200 And such. 2107 01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:42,440 And yeah, and they do provide good training. They provide trainings to. 2108 01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:44,840 Government agencies on. 2109 01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:47,760 How to assist and then, but more importantly. 2110 01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,960 How to assist on the FEMA recovery portion of it? 2111 01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:52,520 FEMA. 2112 01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,960 The documentation, they're very particular about documentation. 2113 01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:00,640 And they they do provide those trainings on how to help. 2114 01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:02,840 Homeowners through the documentation process. 2115 01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:07,800 But I'll pass it. We'll pass along the information in regards to. 2116 01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:13,400 Gain word out in regards to emergency response and management for the public. 2117 01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:15,160 In a general sense. 2118 01:55:19,270 --> 01:55:22,130 Don't think too much about it, all right? 2119 01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:23,840 Any other comments? 2120 01:55:24,890 --> 01:55:29,010 All right. Thank you. I know that wasn't a whole lot of input back to you, but hopefully that gave you enough to just modify a 2121 01:55:29,010 --> 01:55:33,130 couple things before then presenting to the City Council. I think getting out ahead in the presentation about in the event of a 2122 01:55:33,130 --> 01:55:37,250 flood. 2123 01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:39,440 Just saying hey. 2124 01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:42,000 Even though that's not necessarily addressed in the ordinance. 2125 01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:43,080 Be aware that. 2126 01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:44,040 These are the. 2127 01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,840 Potential responses for it as well, and when we. 2128 01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:49,480 Take it to City Council. 2129 01:55:53,470 --> 01:55:58,890 Present that I'll talk to our just a slide at the beginning of the presentation. OK, that says. 2130 01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,120 This is not an emergency response. 2131 01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:02,880 Ordinance, so you know. 2132 01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:06,400 There are methods for that. And now let's talk about the really fun legalese that's great, gets excited about. That's great. Thank 2133 01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:09,840 you. 2134 01:56:10,590 --> 01:56:11,110 Great. 2135 01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:12,560 Well, thank you so much. 2136 01:56:13,340 --> 01:56:14,770 All right, we'll close that item. 2137 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:22,280 And move on to staff and Commission reports staff, is there anything worth reporting on that we haven't already addressed? 2138 01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:26,600 All right, hearing none. Commission, is there anything worth reporting on? 2139 01:56:30,610 --> 01:56:34,070 We aren't required to with the work session. What I would recommend members of the public if you do have any comments or 2140 01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:37,530 suggestions. 2141 01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:38,800 For. 2142 01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:40,640 Regarding the floodplain. 2143 01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:43,320 Naseem did offer. 2144 01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:47,400 Afterward to walk through websites and any of that, highly recommend that you do that. 2145 01:56:48,260 --> 01:56:50,170 Come. Thank you. 2146 01:56:51,370 --> 01:56:56,650 OK, seeing no other reports, we are going to go ahead and adjourn until our next meeting. 2147 01:56:56,720 --> 01:56:58,440 I imagine well there. 2148 01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:00,160 Be one later in May. 2149 01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:02,440 Or likely June. Do we know yet? 2150 01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:03,720 Or TBD. 2151 01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:04,760 TBD. 2152 01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:06,120 Wonderful. 2153 01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:08,200 OK. Thank you, everyone. 2154 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:09,640 Have a good night. Thank you. 2155 01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:10,560 Good night. 2156 01:57:19,270 --> 01:57:21,570 It takes too many. 2157 01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:29,320 So resolutions are the data of ordinances into the first meeting and then it follows up the next meeting. 2158 01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:49,880 It has to be the regular. 2159 01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:52,040 So it would be.