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for the agenda.
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One last thing. And don't forget when
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to hit that button.
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Good evening and welcome to the Virgin
Town Planning and Zoning Regular Meeting

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and Public Hearing.
Um the time is 5:32.

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And um we're going to start our meeting
with the Pledge of Allegiance led by

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Mr. Kent Peterson.

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» Please join with me by leading the flag.
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United States of America and to the
Republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.

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» Thank you, Kent. And next we'll proceed
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interest. I'm going to start with um
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» No.
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the minutes that were in our folder were
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If that's okay with everyone.
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» Okay. And um next we'll move to open
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Um just remember um
this is a chance for our public and our

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community to speak, and there is a
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You may talk about anything not on the
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to um or who has an open forum comment?
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» Hi. Hi.
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» I'm interested
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in this matter.
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I'm looking at the conflicts
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looking at our permitted uses and our
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they're really we're getting too many of
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public housing in the town.
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look at that and realize the potential
economic impact that they have long

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term. So,
that's all I have.

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» Thank you, Chuck.

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And next we'll move to commissioner
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you would like to make?
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» No.
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several people come and speak to me or
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um, about the
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set up a meeting with Reiker so we can
go over like what what the requirements

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were that we set up for them at our I
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meeting of their CUP.
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So I just wanted to make them let them
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going to follow up on that for them.
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» Uh, no comments but I've had several
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more about the road. So I don't know if
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Road being paved or timing or anything.
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» Final environmental assessments right
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All right.
And with that, we have two items before

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we go on to our public hearing. I
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board and one is um,
the general plan

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after making amendments due to from the
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um, public meeting and our last work
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an ordinance that um,
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and zoning map amendments setting up
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so that is consistent
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matches state code, which has been
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All right. So, with that I'll take a
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open the public hearing.

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» That we close the public meeting and
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» Do I have a second?
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» All in favor?
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Okay.
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is an ordinance amending and restating
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and 16-2-332
to establish procedures for zoning text

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amendments and zoning map amendments and
providing for related matters.

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I did not receive any emails. Um we have
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letters in our folder. Are there any
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This is not that.
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establishing the application process for
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not clearly stated in our code, so.
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clarify.
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Being none, let's move on to our second
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an amendment to the Virgin Town General
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working on for quite some time.
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» I'm Arlene
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Sorry, this is going to count sound
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here you go.
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So, I love the little old houses. I
listened to your pitches for the general

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plan. I took the time to submit detailed
input in good faith. Looking at this

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update draft, it's clear my concerns
were tossed straight into the garbage.

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This version is virtually identical to
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None of them were good. Instead of
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local property owners, you doubled down,
inserting even more restrictions on

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issues and more worried about dark
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We are naive. We know exactly what this
general plan is designed to do. It lays

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out the legal groundwork for future
ordinances meant to strip us of our

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property rights.
As major land owners in this town, we do

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not consent to the sensitive land
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or refusal to address that washes can be
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If the
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sensitive land designations across our
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you need to think again or this town
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Furthermore, claiming in the document
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river is not true.
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I know you guys listened to Arlene. He
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and I think his concerns should be
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Both the mayor and Arlene have openly
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want any growth in the town.
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and select few, while completely
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by this committee.
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off to make this town place worth living
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you chose to live here.
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slam the door shut and lock the
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own land.
I strongly recommend that the planning

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and zoning commission review
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plan before voting to send it to the
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Thank you.
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» Wait, wait.

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Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll switch you
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» Oh.
Tell me when.

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Okay.
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Improvement District.
Uh I was I'm just going to send this

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letter to
all council people in Burton. And

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everybody said so we're not wasting
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Um you can sign it.
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I'm writing this for only one reason, my

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serious concern regarding the way the
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is proposing to do the next slide.
And then during the draft, several

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critical gaps and concerns came
lack of economic growth strategy.

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Where in this draft are private sector
job creation and local business

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incentives addressed?
The private community requires a

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forward-looking strategy that supports
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Good point.
Over-regulation versus encouragement.

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This plan fails to encourage balanced
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On the contrary, it creates additional
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Over-regulation that dampens economic
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and property rights.

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Transparency and red light.
I hope I'm getting the term right. Red

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light means where you
see the old draft and by side so you can

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see
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And while the proposed changes not been
provided redline below

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without a clear line by line comparison
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not the the draft existing general plan
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It should be also in side by side.
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it's nearly impossible for residents,
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evaluate precisely what is being
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I strongly urge the town council and
planning commission to pause the

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adoption process without a fully redline
comparison of the current plan with the

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existing draft
and reopen discussions to amend the

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existing general plan and the plan
development policy.

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And that's the letter that
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And I feel like it would be
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to actually see the old side by
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luckily she has the notes she made at
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Otherwise, she wouldn't even know to see
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I think people would like to know what
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them in order to give input and
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not just the select few that might do

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that was going on. So
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something as big as the general plan is
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it's a public notice that goes out.
But unless you're signed up to the

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public website
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town is not on it.
You wouldn't even know about this thing.

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» Mhm.
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planning and are working places kids
they should know that this is this is a

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meeting that they may want to attend.
They may want to put their input in.

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Once they have the information they
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So, I just have to write the information
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is clear enough and I told him
that we are giving everyone

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in town the opportunity.
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then try to use it.
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in town. Yeah.
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So, that's what I called.
Make sure you have consideration and so

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» Thank you, Chuck. Thanks, Chuck.

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Are there any other comments at this
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And hearing none, um we will I will take
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close the public hearing and open the
public meeting.

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I move we close the public hearing and
open the public meeting.

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Do I have a second?
>> I'll second it.

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» All in favor?
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» I.
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» All right.
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there were no comments on the text and
zone change

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um item to clarify from the public to
reduce confusion. Is there anything you

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wanted to point out where we have
members of the public here on this item?

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» Um just to further explain that this
ordinance comes as a result of changes

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in state code. Um the state is now
requiring that application requirements

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or application checklists be listed on
the town's website and backed up by the

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town's code.
And so as a result of that, we've taken

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this process that previously has been
combined into one process as and

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separated into two distinct processes
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rather than creating confusion between
the two. So, it's it's not

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too crazy, but it's just
a a clarification on the application.

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» each other if you've read the ordinance,
they do kind of parallel. And we will be

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discussing this item thoroughly next
week at our work meeting

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um for a vote in
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So,
all right. Um does any other

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commissioner have any anything that they
would like to comment on this particular

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I have one question about it. Um just
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does it mention We've had trouble in the

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past where
overlay zones were passed without the

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the same procedure that a regular zone
change requires, and I don't know if the

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there's anything in the text of that to
mention an overlay

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re-zone.
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of the code necessarily. Um it it would
depend on how overlay zones specific

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overlay zones were written.
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essentially it would be dependent upon
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process to be required for the change if
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» It does, but I think that the existing
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is to get the re-zone from the town.
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would have to follow this process.
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It would be good to reread that section
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though.
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» Okay.
Any other thoughts?

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Claudia?
>> Thank you.

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» Kent?
>> No.

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» All right, thank you.
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the last item for our discussion tonight
is discussion and possible

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recommendation
of the Virgin Town Plan.

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Um
I would have to respectfully um

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point out that um
I believe as does

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our consultant from Five Counties
believe

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because I asked him this
that we more than adequately adequately

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reached out to the town.
More than adequately offered them a

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chance uh
giving additional input once the initial

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input stage, which is very different
from what was done at the previous plan

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which it was never put out for any
public input after the initial

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um general meetings.
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I just want to clarify for the record
that um

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I am not anti-growth. I am about
balanced growth.

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Since my name was specifically meant and
we will be respectful

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as I was to anyone who makes a comment.
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we even in the last one we made more
than two or three changes and we

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actually documented those changes as as
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had a robust discussion.
I and when we actually made the changes

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in the document, we linked them
in our notes

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to whoever made that comment.
>> Mhm.

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» And I believe we ex-
had changes from almost everybody's

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comments of the very last hearing that
we had.

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So, I I just wanted to clarify that.
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And this is a new general plan, so
it will be replacing and it's not a

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matter of the redlining. It's not
It's not an edited No, not an edited.

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It's a start from scratch.
>> And once again, in the previous

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reiteration,
that was not done either.

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» No.
>> The changes were not done. That was not

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done.
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That's all I have to say. I think that
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effort to hear people and this document
is ready for the next step.

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» Can I say
>> Absolutely. I'm going to call each of

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you.
>> I just want I don't know um

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how many people observed all of this,
but uh

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when we first started working on this,
we went through, you know,

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what do they call them? Element by
element. And we had a lot of

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debate over each thing. And
lots of people

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lots of viewpoints were represented and
negotiated

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and so, what what you have in front of
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the result of a lot of sort of
compromise and

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you know, investigation and uh all of
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yes, it's been a long time since we

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started this project. So, I mean, I
don't know if anybody even remembers the

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early days of it. Uh but it was
it was very um

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active, this the whole debate. So, I
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this is not something that we are going

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to adopt as
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rules. It's an advisory document.
So, it doesn't have a whole lot of

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effect on whatever regulations what are
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existing in the town. So.
Or new ones that come up.

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That's it for me.
>> Kent, do you have any comments on this

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idea?
>> Yeah, I do uh

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agree with what's said. Uh
it's been a lot of hard work and a lot

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of uh
thought and and compromise

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in this plan
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that's being
sent to the town.

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We're voting to send it to the town or
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I do think that um

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Chuck made a
an interesting comment that maybe we can

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work with. And and that would be that
there are a lot of people that just

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aren't interested in this kind of stuff.
And there are people that don't know how

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to
uh find out about it if they become

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interested or something like that. But I
know that the mayor is and the town is

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really, really good about giving
opportunity for people for comment in

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her newsletter
and on the website. And I wondered, you

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know, if there could be some
recommendation that in maybe the

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newsletter that comes to everybody for
their

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utility bill
says that how they can get online or

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they can come into the town office and
get a copy of the

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proposed um um document that
>> And we've done that.

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We've had hard copies available in the
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Um for those who
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or don't have it.
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» So I So I'm recommending again for the
same thing that that the town have

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available a copy about the general plan
as they discuss it if not now uh that

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people could uh
be helped to get a copy of it or be able

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to find it online
uh if they don't know how or if somebody

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could help them do that. So
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we have as you say
worked to this to

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to the
a very tiring point and we're anxious to

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move it forward to
the town council and and to the mayor.

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» Are you Is that all?
>> Yeah.

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» Okay. Claudia?
>> Um I was thinking about it when Chuck

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was talking about it. I love the idea of
putting it more frequently in the

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newsletter about the town meetings. I
know that it's everywhere and it's

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always the same, but I was that person
that was always traveling for my work

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and um family and I was always gone. And
so when I was in town

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I was trying to catch up. I really at
the time didn't understand the

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difference between town council and
planning and zoning. And I've only been

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in this world for 4 months, so I have
not worked as hard on this as all you

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have. So um but I do remember even with
all of my traveling and going going in

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and seeing all the work that you guys
have done. I know that you've talked

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about it. I I that you've had
discussions. so I feel like as much as

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I was out of town for work, um,
I was aware of it. So, I think people

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who live in this town,
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should have the ability and the energy
and the interest to jump in. So, I think

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that
I think one more time, and maybe it's a

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final blurb on that newsletter every
week to remind people about it or every

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month, sorry. I think that would
probably be super helpful.

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Um, for people like me who
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role pretty much. So, I think it'd be
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But, I feel like you've worked really
hard on it. I think you've made every

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opportunity available to people, and I
know that when I first moved here, there

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was
no access to things. So,

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um, I feel really good about the work
that's been done.

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» Are there any further comments?

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Um, record, do you have anything to add
on this item? I know that you weren't

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intimately involved in it, but I just
wondered.

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» Yeah, I haven't been
>> you an opportunity as well.

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» to be involved in this process. Um,
my only note is is that as we've

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as we've discussed, um, potential future
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um,
that we just ensure that we continue to

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to get
uh, public input and make sure that

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that's incorporated into the document.
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» Absolutely.
All right, if there are no further

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comments, I will take a motion for a
vote on this. Do you have a further

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comment?
>> No, I'd like to make a motion.

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» Oh, okay.
>> I'd like to move that we,

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uh,
move the,

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uh, recommend we

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move the amendment for the Virgin Town
General Plan as discussed to the town

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council.
>> Do I have a second?

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» I'll second it.
>> I'm going to do a voice vote on this.

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Claudia?
>> I.

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» Darlene? I.
Lee?

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» I.
>> Kent?

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» I.

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» All right, that is the final item for
our meeting um and unless there's

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something I don't know
that's not listed here. Um

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I will take a motion to adjourn.
>> I will move that we adjourned.

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» Second?

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» Second.
>> All in favor?

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» I.
>> I.

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» I.
>> I.

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» Thank you, everyone.
Have a good evening.

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» Stop.

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And then