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Or, good afternoon, everybody. We're ready to go ahead and get this city council work session meeting started. November 3rd, and we will call this meeting to order.

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We'll start off with public comments. Citizens are now invited to comment on issues within the jurisdiction of the Vice-Sized City Council and items listed on the closed session agenda.

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The Council asked to keep your comments concise and positive. Creative criticism presented with appropriate courtesy is welcome.

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Each speaker will be allowed three minutes and a timer will notify you when your time is expired.

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Please begin your comments by stating and spelling your name and providing your city of residents.

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Do you have anyone from the public wishing to speak?

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Seeing pretty much all.

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So I see no one.

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Is this microphone working?

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It's low.

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It was working.

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Then it wasn't.

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All right.

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So we're going to start off with item number one, which is recognition of city of

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So, innovators, by design award, and that's going to be given by Jason Serpa.

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Good evening, Council.

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Jason Serpa Public Works Manager for Solid Waste.

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On October 8th, the Workforce Investment Board, held the innovators by design conference,

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which invited a lot of partners, community partners, community individuals,

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to collaborate and inspire change in community involvement.

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In addition to having a keynote speaker there and other breakout conferences, they did give out individual and team awards to recognize not only organizations but individuals and the city of ISIL was awarded the Innovation Award for our ECO program.

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And so, they also did a real special video, which will, I guess, become a lot longer video

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for, to send out to other cities and organizations as an example.

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And we do have the video to show today, but before we show the video, I do want to introduce

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our individuals that went through the Eco Program, Michael Gonzalez, and Celeste Paras.

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they are both in our suite program now with full-time employees and Griseldah Harrow who's a

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solid waste operator and we do have Alyssa O'Hate also in our wastewater collections department.

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She should be able to make it. She might go away today. Griseldah was featured in the video,

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but they're all super stars. They all came to the program and we can go ahead and start.

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The eco program was developed in order to provide individuals that are experiencing homelessness

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in the city of Isaia, with the skills needed to be successful, and also the resources and

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confidence needed to be successful in the workforce.

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I have been a big hit from my apartment, and I was not on the streets for a very long time,

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but I was on the streets for about three weeks before I got into a shelter.

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I saw another participant there in her yellow shirt with her pants and her boots and

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Like, what are you, what are you, what are you, you know?

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The Eagle Program was always a partnership

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between the workforce investment board

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and C-Sat, along with the city of Isaia.

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What's up, I'm here, I'm doing a little walk up this way.

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C-Sat does run the level one crew,

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which is a cleanup crew, supervised with a C-Sat employee.

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It was like a little eye-opener to be cleaning up the unhouse.

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I was able to see if I would have stayed out longer

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on-house, then that could have been me. That kind of gave me more of a more

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motivational push to continue to move forward. So phase one helps people get

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their foot back in the door with the workforce, right? In addition, what they're

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doing is job preparation workshops helping them with interview skills with

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resume writing, your career exploration figuring out what's out there, and then we

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also have phase two. Those individuals are then working directly into the

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supervision of the city of Bicelius Public Works Department. They send them over to

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the City of Isalia, Solid Waste Department, and they work here in place of our lease that

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we would have hired anyways. There are folks out there that have a hard time finding the

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avenue to get back to work. We consider a success when they achieve outside of playmen.

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I really enjoyed the program getting a firm and becoming responsible. I started saving money.

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That's when they asked me if I wanted to apply for a position in your city.

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It's all the parts I've heard, and that's it.

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I ended up getting my license, my personal license, and I got the solid wage operator job. I love my job. I actually work for the city for almost four years.

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And that's it.

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All right, so we do have a award, so we'll come down and take a picture with our folks, but I'll just read it real quick. It says,

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The workforce investment board of telecounty presents city if I say innovators by design

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award for exceptional partnership and commitment to strength to the workforce.

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It's on October 8th, 2025 so if we can have the four of you or guess five of you come

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on over and we'll take a picture right down here in the well.

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Oh yeah if you guys want to come up here I guess there's only few of you that works better.

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Council this is one of those programs that it just really fills me and I'm sure you

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with a lot of pride for the number of years this has gone on and it was very innovative

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when it started and it has really paid off and dividends for people who have been able

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to change their lives.

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So thank you for continuing to support this.

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It really is an amazing program and we get a lot of kudos from the community for how beautiful

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our city is.

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You know whether it's graffiti, abatement, trash, just cleanups, you know, I've been out watching

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and some of these ladies work, and it's amazing.

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They just come in and it is a crew, and within minutes,

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they can clean something that would take me a day or two.

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So, it's amazing to watch them work.

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If I could share my supervisor at night,

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came out of the ECO program, and he lived at the rescue mission,

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and because he's now working, he has his own apartment,

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bought a car, and he's reunited with his son,

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and it's because of that program.

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I'm standing.

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All right, so we're going to go on next to item number two,

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which is a presentation of the 2025 Public Opinion Survey results.

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Council with us today is Richard Bernard, who was with FM3.

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He has a 20-year history with us in doing a variety of surveys that have led to measure

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T, measure N, measure R, and incredibly accurate with those statistically valid surveys.

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As you may know, this is the first time that the city has done a professional community opinion survey

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that we had many, many decades of the Citizens Advisory Committee conducting those

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and it was just time to look at really getting a statistically valid survey.

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So I really appreciate the work that John and his folks have done and take it away.

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I was the old, John was the old consultant.

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I thought you were referring to this system.

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I was just, I was just, I'll simply say your staff was amazing all the way around,

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how's that as a good start.

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And that's an end of one, but I can confirm that.

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All right.

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Good afternoon.

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Thank you for inviting me to come to what I always refer to as the jewel of the crown

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of the Larry County to present your residents opinion.

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So, I'd like to start with the methodology

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and then I'll get into the details.

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We conducted the survey between August 13th and the 28th.

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It was a dual mode survey,

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which means a random portion of their respondents took the survey

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on the phone and a random portion took the survey online.

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In fact, 47% took the survey on telephone if 53 online.

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We interviewed a random sample of 556 city of Vite.

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Assembly, a residence who are 18 years of age or older. For questions asked, everyone, the margin varies

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plus or minus 4.4. In some cases, we had a lot of questions, but we didn't want to over-over-tax. I

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don't mean it in the financial way. Your residence, and so there, we took a random half the sample and

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asked them some questions and a random half others. There, the margin and there's a little bit larger

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or plus or minus 6.2.

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We contacted residents by telephone, email, text, and postcards.

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And of course, we offered the survey in English and Spanish

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of which 13% opted to take the survey in Spanish.

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And as we go through the results, and if you notice something

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doesn't quite equal 100%, I blame that entirely

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on rounding just from the decimal points.

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So I want to start by giving you

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demographics of the respondents, and we look very closely at the U.S. Census Community Survey

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to make sure that the demographics mirror the demographics of your community. It's never

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helpful to over-sampled Group A when Group A only makes up a small portion of your respondents.

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So we wanted to make sure that it was a representative sample. In the first slide that you see here,

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I'm very familiar that the you folks at the city like to think there are many ways you

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like to slice and dice the city, but one of them is to cut it north south east west using

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i198 and moony boulevard. And so you could see the percentages of the respondents from each of

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those quadrants of the city. Then by age you could see 59% of the respondents or 18 years of age

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between 18 years of age, and 49 years of age, and I could tell you looking at the responses

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from your previous years, we actually ended up interviewing more younger people than we

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had in the past, but it's in line with your sense of status.

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So I felt very good about that.

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Then this slide demonstrates self-identified

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race and ethnicity.

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We don't tell people what they are.

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They tell us.

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And here 62% identified as a person of color

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in one of our multiple groups,

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of which almost one and every two identified as Latino.

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And then 35% white.

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By gender, when they told us, 51% said they were female, and 48% male, I'm somewhat

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of a social demographer, my background in sociology, and we know that women live longer

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than men, so these numbers don't necessarily surprise me.

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With respect to home ownership, 29% describe themselves as renters, 68% said a homeowner

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I look back on your 2021, 2022, 2022, 2023 survey, the interviews were less than 20%

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renters.

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So we were able to expand that base and we waited the data a little bit because you

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have certainly more renters than less than 20%.

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So they're more represented here in the responses.

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And we also asked a length of time living in VALSET by Celia.

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And here the data was fairly consistent with your previous results, and in that, you have a pretty modest number of folks who have recently moved in in the last four or five years.

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If you, I guess if you love this city, you stay, and you live here a long, long period of time, and that is represented here as well as in your previous surveys.

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And then by income, you could see about a third self-adentified

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as having household incomes in 2024, of $75,000 or less.

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It's not unusual for people to not want to give their income,

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but I rarely see only 11%.

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It's usually about a third of the samples.

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So they were, as long as the ranges were large and a lot of them

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at least self-adentified.

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Now, can I tell you they were telling us the truth?

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I cannot, but I will, in this case,

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try to take them at their word.

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All right, so those are the general demographics

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and now I'd like to move into sort of opinions.

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So we began the survey,

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be asking how they would rate if I silly

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as a place to live, and we gave them the option

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of excellent good fare, poor, or very poor.

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And 92% had what I'll call a favorable,

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Or at least said average in terms of their opinion about a place to live. I often look at this data and look at the percentage of sets of day before, and this is relatively low, and only 1% said very poor.

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And I think that's indicative of a well-run, great place to live city. Everyone aspires to do better, and so there's opportunities in the future for that, but very few people consider this to be a place to live.

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that they wouldn't want to live.

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We gave them a couple of statements.

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And we asked them if they agreed or disagreed with the statement.

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I presented two here.

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One is, I personally feel safe living in Vicellia.

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75% said they either strongly or somewhat agree with that number.

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I think that's a relatively good number.

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I do a lot of these kinds of questions throughout the state.

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So it's a pretty strong number.

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though I'm always cautious, I assume the city's aspirational goal is for everyone to say extremely

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safe. So there's certainly room to move and you'll see as we move forward one of the issues

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of concern in the city is issues around crime which is not yet again unique to your city.

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The other question we asked for an agreed disagree on their opinion I trust by

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tell you, city government to do what is right all

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are most of the time.

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And here, bearing in mind that the views of government

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in general, these days are poor.

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And I'm not even talking about which side of the aisle

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you're on, just general, doesn't matter.

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And I think sometimes cities get a little bit of a raw deal

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because they that negative opinion from either Washington

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and or Sacramento, trickles down to where folks live, and I see a majority people saying they

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agree with that statement as a good marker of their opinions about how the city in general

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is doing. You don't get around with seeing very high numbers on this question, so to have a majority

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saying they agree with that is a good representation.

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So now, before we got into any of the topics in the survey,

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we asked them an open-ended question.

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We asked us a number of open-ended questions

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and I'm gonna mostly be showing in this section

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of the presentation.

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We asked them, what do you think is the most serious issue

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facing residents of Isleia that you'd like to see

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city government do something about?

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And we accepted multiple responses.

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So, if you do the math quickly and you see it equals more than 100, you know why.

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We took their actual answers and we grouped them together in themes.

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And so, those are the ones that are presented.

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And then I've ranked it,

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okay, great, sorry about that, I'll try to not break your technology.

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37% said homelessness is an issue that they would like to see government do something about.

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And this theme runs throughout the data in the research,

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a clearly an issue that is top of mind.

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Remember, we didn't ask that,

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we didn't give them ideas,

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we were going to in a moment, but we asked them,

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this is purely top of mind.

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Crime, a significant drop down, but 12% crime,

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and then traffic congestion, transportation issues,

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unsafe traffic conditions.

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These are the three that you will see time and time

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again in this in this survey for you to be my full up.

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Some of you may be scratching your head and saying,

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well, what do we have to do with the schools other than

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you're certainly supportive of your schools?

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You'd like them to do well.

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Many people don't understand that city government

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is not responsible for local schools.

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There are certainly some exceptions in the US,

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but that's not necessarily very much in California

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with the exception of the LAUSD.

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And that's only in a modest way.

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So those are the top of mind items.

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We then gave them a list of 16 issues,

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and we asked them how serious a problem are these.

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The bright orange is extremely serious problem.

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The mid-color orange is very serious problem.

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The dull kind of beige or orange is somewhat serious problem.

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The blue is not too serious problem.

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And the gray are the folks who said they didn't know enough

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to offer an opinion.

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I've taken the extremely in very serious problem and I aggregate them on the right-hand side and ranked it as such.

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And the number one item both in terms of intensity but also overall by 15 points on the extremely very serious.

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So again, open ended, they brought it up top of mind and we give them a list and it clearly ranks the top.

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Cost of housing, cost of living, which are one could argue somewhat connected. Certainly, if I can't afford a place to live, I ultimately can be homeless.

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And we tested, cost of housing, lack of affordable housing in two different ways. The framing shows you.

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Sometimes words matter, and it changes the level of importance.

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Gang and youth juvenile violence,

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traffic on local streets, property crime,

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crime in general.

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These are kind of the top tier.

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Though I will tell you, in most cities,

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I see high percentages on multiple items.

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And here, I don't want to minimize something

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that's in the 40s, but I often will see a number

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of things a way above 50%, and that is in the case.

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And given the fact that I have another slide, and as you go down this list, the extremely

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a very serious problem starts to decline pretty dramatically.

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For example, again, people are generally not happy with government, yet waste in an efficiency

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in city government, only 10% say that's an extremely serious problem.

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And if you think about what's gone on over the last year with those, and the right wing

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is argued that there's waste of mismanagement, we've got to make the cuts, the leftling

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has argued we don't disagree, there's waste of mismanagement, but we would say you have

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to do it in a certain way. You have to be careful about that. All forms of the spectrum

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are talking about waste of mismanagement and government. And yet low and behold, it's relatively

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modest here. So I think that really speaks to the functioning of the government here.

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I wanted to point out a couple things about transportation.

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You have a modest number of people that use the buses.

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I'm very familiar with your transportation.

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I measure as the city manager mentioned.

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I was involved. My firm was involved with the measure.

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I believe this measure are.

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So I get the importance of transportation, public transportation.

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But I don't minimize some of those 18% that say lack of public transportation, they are incredibly dependent on public transportation and other folks aren't.

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So if you're not dependent on it, you don't think it's a serious problem.

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But there is a significant percentage of people, even if it's to intend that for them that's an issue.

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So I just, I don't want to just ignore that it's not 80%.

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But it's still for some people, it's a significant livelihood.

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Later in the survey, we started to talk about public safety and we asked, what would you

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say is the most serious public safety problem in your neighborhood? Again, open-ended, we

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group the responses thematically. And here, you could see speeding and unsafe driving and traffic

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is statistically tied with homeless and homeless encampments. So that sort of identifies

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as yet another topic of concern when you break it down,

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and this was specifically about their area.

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And if I were to take crime in general,

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theft in general, residential home burglaries,

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car breakings and thefts, graffiti, vandalism,

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property damage, and added just those together.

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I believe you get about 38%.

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And so it's actually when they think about their neighborhood,

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The number one, but item, but they're greater specificity in how they talk about it.

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But if you lump it together, really suggest crying is a issue.

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And I know you have a dedicated portion of your sales tax just for public safety.

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Yet, that's still a problem.

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I will tell you that issues about crime, whether your crime rates are going up or down throughout

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the state, folks are perceiving that crime is on property crime is on the increase. And we

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started to see that during COVID when low and behold right in front of their homes, their

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front doors, people were stealing their packages. And it's really persisted over time, particularly

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related to property crimes. And then finally at the end of the survey, and I know I have a whole

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things to tell you in between, we revisited this question in a little bit different way

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because we wanted, we talk a lot about the services and all these items, and now finally,

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from the beginning where we didn't mention anything, it was top of mind, and now when they've

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had a chance to think about a lot of things, we asked them in thinking about issues we've discussed

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or other issues related to Bicellia, what is the most important thing that city of Bicellia can

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to improve the services for people who live and or work in the city.

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And you'll notice

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Those top issues of decreased homelessness still remain. Though it starts at 37% on the first slide,

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it's gone down to 21%. So we've introduced additional issues for them that they now consider

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also important to be considered. But homelessness is, by far, that crime and unsafe driving

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is clearly the top items in your community in terms of concern.

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Now I'd like to get to some of the specific services that you offer.

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We first asked a general question,

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but how satisfied are they with the services that you're providing?

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Sort of a job performance rating overall for the city.

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70 to 72%.

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So almost three, three and every four residents were satisfied

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with what the city is doing.

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And it's hard to get people to be extremely intense on their satisfaction again on government.

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So the fact that 15% say very satisfied,

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I might caution you about being too

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dejected by it, they just generally feel good.

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But what's interesting in a moment, I'm going to show you about the interactions that they

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have with city employees, and you're going to see a bump-up in terms of the very satisfied.

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So those one-on-one interactions really, really people are more intense in their satisfaction.

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So we provided them now with 22 services and programs that your city has to offer.

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We gave them a scale of 1-7 and we said,

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How important is each of these items with 1 being not at all important and 7 being very important?

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4 is the midpoint of 1-7.

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So things above four are in a good direction, things below four are in not such a good direction.

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And four is sort of the neutral. It's not, you know, it's not, it's not important. Sorry for the double negative.

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I've taken the six and seven and I call that very important.

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That's the dark blue and the bright blue is somewhat important.

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The means for those math friends or the averages are on the right hand side, but I've

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ranked it by the sixes and sevens that blue and you could see that these numbers are very high.

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What you do is important to them and there's a couple of slides and you'll see by far the public safety

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items are among the top items probably not surprising and I believe that you have disproportionate

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amount of your general fund probably goes to public safety and plus you have that dedicated sales

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tax.

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So that's consistent with all cities that I've ever worked with over 23 years.

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The management of city finances is important.

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People are mindful of their tax dollars, but you'll see in a moment not everyone knows what

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you do with the money.

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I've done a lot of focus groups and people tell me, I'll ask them, well, what do you think

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they do with their money?

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with city's money, not specifically here, but in general.

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And they'll say, well, whatever it is, it can't be good.

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They just don't know what you do.

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And so communicating through efforts,

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you post your budget online, you do a whole bunch

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of things, you do your best you can.

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But people are busy and they're not able to always

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sort of keep up with that.

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Street and local road maintenance, street lighting.

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These are some of the top in terms of importance.

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and you can see the numbers persist in terms of very high as high percentages as you go down

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the list and you'll notice all items are above that midpoint to 4. With the lowest item being

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cultural and arts options at 4.9 but still close to 5 out of 7 for those items. Now we give them

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same list but we ask how status fighter you. This time the skill is 1 to 7 or 1 is not at all

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status fights. Evan is very satisfied of taking the sixes and sevenths again and I've ranked them

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and that dark blue is the very satisfied and the bright blue is somewhat satisfied and I've given

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you the means on the right hand side as well. And here as every city that I've ever done a

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Resonance satisfaction for where I've done the importance and satisfaction ratings for, in this case, 22 items, only one gets into the 60s in terms of very satisfied.

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I can't remember a time where fire and paramedic services didn't score the top in terms of satisfaction.

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So Kudos to those folks and everyone loves a firefighter or a paramedic.

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So, next is Trash for recycling.

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Services again, something that's often on the high-end and police protection in services is also up there.

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So you're in storm, a tray maintenance, street lighting, bus services, but you'll notice 24% say they don't know.

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My suggestion before was not everyone uses the bus. So even though that 18% said, you know, that was a serious problem, you want to be mindful of why that is such a small number.

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As we go down the list, I'm going to go to the bottom, I know you have access to this and I'd be happy to answer what I can.

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As we move forward, I want to point out that only one item goes below four, and that's services for people experiencing homelessness.

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So again, and you know, substantiating that theme that we see in the previous slides.

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management of city services, I've kind of spoken to that before, 21% don't know enough

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to offer an opinion.

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And traffic flow, I'd say traffic flow and services for experiencing homeless that

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orange bar, the one to three, not two or not are all satisfied or the highest, and that's

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consistent with some of the other findings that I presented.

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Now, we'll go to the direct relationship between city staff and your residents.

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We asked folks in the last two years that they've had some kind of interaction with city

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government, it could be an email, it could be one-on-one, it could be interacting with the

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police, the fire, whoever works for the city could be interacting with city council and

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or the mayor, 61% said they had in the last two years.

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And so then we asked those folks,

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which made up about 341 of the sample,

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how satisfied were you with those interactions?

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And there, again, you get almost three quarters

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that say satisfied, but it's doubled

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in terms of the very satisfied.

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Which speaks to the quality of the staff

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and perhaps you folks, I don't know who they interacted with,

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That when you have that one-on-one experience, it elevates their willingness to say something really positive about it and I think that is a really good number and you should be very proud of your staff with respect to that.

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I'm also mindful about this question.

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If I were to call, let's say, to get a permit and I needed to go to the county to get some information.

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and they take two or three days to get back to me.

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And then I get back to a resident with the answer.

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Am I deemed for not being responsive when it wasn't me

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that caused the delay?

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So you have to be cautious about how you interpret

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the data in a variety of ways.

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But again, a third of the people are very satisfied

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with those interactions.

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We asked, again, we asked now about whether they attended

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the following places and we gave them a series of a number of times.

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We asked about city parks, city trails, and are walking past

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and convention centers.

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And here you could see 71% have used the city parks

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at least three or more times in the year, with one and every two

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saying five or more.

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Now that could be daily, right?

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We didn't get into that great specificity.

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But you only have a little less than 10% that do not use your parks and that may help explain the number that I'm going to show you in a moment

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But keep in mind this is a lot of activity and if they didn't like their parks they wouldn't be using it

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So that's something to be mindful of

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City trails and or walking past

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There you have 51%

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3 times or more with about a quarter that say they don't use it at all or at least in the last year

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And then the Convention Center, I mean, unless they have activities they want to go, no one's

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going on a daily basis to the Convention Center unless you work there.

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But you still have sizable majority who have been there at least one time in the years.

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So I guess programming matters and if they have interesting things they will go to the Convention

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Center, but clearly it's used by significant percentage of folks.

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a question real quick on the past. Of course, we've written this issue in the past where we have

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walking trails in the parks. So you think there's not going to confuse you on those because I feel like

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our walking past are used a lot more, but I think they're confused with parks. I don't have the

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answer to that. I could simply say this is how we read it to them and they may have interpreted

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in multiple ways, and since we randomize that.

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I could have heard, like, I could have heard city trails under walking past first and interpreted it in a way and if I heard city parks first, then if I heard the walking past, I might have differentiated it. So it's hard to know because it wasn't an open-ended question, but that's good to know for the future.

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Thanks. How would you framed it to differentiate?

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I don't know.

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You're like in years past we had very

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Municipal use of the trails.

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But then you drive around town.

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You see a lot of people walking on the trails.

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I don't know.

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I don't know how you differentiate.

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Yeah, you can see not in parks.

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You could say city trails are not in parks or.

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Yeah, no.

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That's good.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's my job.

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You're not responsible for that.

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But that's good to know.

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All right. Thank you for that. So we wanted to, the city wanted to test different recreation programs and facilities

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and basically ask, do we have enough? Is just right or do we have too many of these things?

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And so these are randomized. I've taken the not enough in orange and I've ranked it as the high to low.

447
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By far, aquatic facility, including the community pool, 64% said they're not enough.

448
00:36:20,050 --> 00:36:29,430
Now, I want to be super clear, we asked whether there was enough of them or not, but we didn't ask whether they would be willing to pay for additional pools.

449
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:33,290
I generally have not seen pools score well.

450
00:36:33,870 --> 00:36:38,630
I test them when I do school bonds and I test them when I work for cities.

451
00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:43,610
There's always the exception, so I don't want to presume anything you folks are much

452
00:36:43,610 --> 00:36:45,170
smarter about the city than I.

453
00:36:45,630 --> 00:36:52,650
But I thought that was a pretty strong number, 64%, usually people who are involved with swimming

454
00:36:52,650 --> 00:36:56,670
and or their kids are involved with swimming, or it's super passionate about this wonderful

455
00:36:56,670 --> 00:36:57,350
sport.

456
00:36:57,710 --> 00:37:01,290
And they talk to council members, and you hear from them all the time.

457
00:37:01,610 --> 00:37:04,430
But it doesn't necessarily mean it's reflective of the community.

458
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:15,630
But here, you have data that says, regardless of where you're a parent or not, there's a significant number of people that think, you know, there's got to be more pools, but again, did not ask if they're willing to pay.

459
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:32,950
Other things that scored high were community centers, walking a biking pass, again, noted your comment for perhaps future use BMX bike pump track facilities are among the highest ranked.

460
00:37:34,070 --> 00:37:40,250
And I have to say this is the highest rank pickle ball courts number I've ever seen.

461
00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:45,990
I have every city manager says, I love my residents and they're driving me crazy because

462
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:50,010
they want more pickle ball courts and then I tested it and it's one of the lowest items.

463
00:37:50,610 --> 00:37:56,390
But in this case, it wasn't bad. It was 40% only 4% that there were too many.

464
00:37:57,130 --> 00:38:02,910
But I will tell you the younger people actually scored higher in terms of

465
00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:08,810
not enough than some of the older folks and I would be in that older range, so I use that category.

466
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:16,310
And then on the lower side is parks. And you know, I'm sure, I'm, again, never seen

467
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:20,950
a council member that doesn't say, all my constituents want park parks, but you could see

468
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:26,430
how well they're used now and perhaps people think, oh, I have my favorite park. I go there

469
00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:32,190
all the time, perhaps we don't need any, but maybe some parts of the city may feel different.

470
00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:34,110
You would know that better than I.

471
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:38,790
And then finally, and thanks for being patient, sources of information.

472
00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:43,290
We asked them how frequently they use a variety of sources of information.

473
00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:47,550
This data was fairly consistent with your previous surveys.

474
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:52,130
Social media clearly is among the top items.

475
00:38:52,850 --> 00:38:54,950
We asked them if we randomized the list.

476
00:38:55,110 --> 00:38:58,610
We said to use it frequently, occasionally, rarely or never.

477
00:39:00,030 --> 00:39:06,050
And even your website page, 38% was a consistent with your last survey.

478
00:39:06,730 --> 00:39:20,230
I would say compared to many of the other cities I've worked with, or on behalf, the website page is modest, in terms of use, relative to some other cities, just a point of knowledge.

479
00:39:20,910 --> 00:39:21,430
So inclusion.

480
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:22,650
Yeah, please.

481
00:39:23,150 --> 00:39:24,110
Back to that slide.

482
00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:25,530
Yeah.

483
00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:31,910
The data, have the data that you have, can you differentiate the traffic concerns, homelessness

484
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:36,490
with people that are online, social media, people that are not, is that something you

485
00:39:36,490 --> 00:39:39,090
could do now with the data you have or is that something we could do in the future?

486
00:39:40,330 --> 00:39:47,210
I could cross, it's a really interesting question, and I know why you're asking, but I could

487
00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:54,350
probably do a run where we're cross-tabulating frequency of social media and perceptions

488
00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:59,970
of homelessness. My feeling is because the concerns about homelessness are so...

489
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,000
So high percentage wise that it won't matter, because I think it would cross boundaries.

490
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,860
And what about traffic? It's like traffic, might you see where you see a different.

491
00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:10,900
That might be interesting.

492
00:40:11,180 --> 00:40:16,500
Exactly. I am committed to do the analysis and letting the city manager know what I find.

493
00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:22,300
Those are excellent questions. The homelessness I'm sure of because it's just so high.

494
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,600
I'm prevalent. The issue about unsafe driving is an interesting question.

495
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,480
I will look into that and I will report back.

496
00:40:30,820 --> 00:40:31,060
Thank you.

497
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,500
Yeah, that's a great question.

498
00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:33,800
All right.

499
00:40:34,540 --> 00:40:35,700
It's slightly more than nine and ten

500
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,200
of favorable views of Icelli, it's a place to live.

501
00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:40,260
Only 8% are dissatisfied.

502
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,440
We can always do better, right.

503
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Three quarters feel safe living in Icelliah.

504
00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:50,680
I've made it clear throughout that issues of homelessness,

505
00:40:51,060 --> 00:40:54,740
improved traffic regulations, repairing roads, lower crimes.

506
00:40:54,740 --> 00:41:01,660
I didn't talk a lot about repairing roads, but that's up there as well, are clearly the top issues.

507
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:08,400
Close to three quarters are satisfied with the overall service for overall job performance rating.

508
00:41:09,340 --> 00:41:17,020
And I've mentioned fire protection, city finances, police protection is top items of importance.

509
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:24,100
And fire fighting, trash recycling, police protection is among the many items that they're satisfied with.

510
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:43,800
But when I focus on the contact with city employees, again three quarters are satisfied, but the intensity of that very satisfied, dramatically goes up at more than doubles, suggesting that they really generally have very good reactions and interactions with your staff and perhaps you as well.

511
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:51,100
Most residents use city parts multiple times a year in a slight majority use the city trails and walking pass

512
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:56,520
a majority indicated the intent of the events center, but only once or maybe twice a year.

513
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:03,640
Majority of residents perceive there's not enough aquatic facilities, including community pools, close to one and two

514
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:09,600
perceived not enough community centers walking by pass and BMX by pump track facilities.

515
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:17,320
And social media, particularly Facebook, are, sorry about that, are among the most frequently

516
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:28,980
used and probably if you might want to do some work either on advertising your city web page,

517
00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:36,620
your web page or updating it, maybe you have more services offered there so they have reason

518
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:37,240
to go.

519
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:41,320
And with that, I am, thank you for patients and I'm happy to answer any questions.

520
00:42:41,740 --> 00:42:45,260
Wonderful. Thank you very much for that report. I was fantastic. It comes from

521
00:42:45,260 --> 00:42:46,300
Nelson, do you have any questions?

522
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:47,580
Councilor Soto?

523
00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:54,140
Thank you for the report. One more question. Someone from the city asks, you surveyed

524
00:42:54,140 --> 00:42:55,640
less than 1% of the population.

525
00:42:57,700 --> 00:42:58,200
Is it accurate?

526
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:01,180
Right. What is the answer?

527
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:05,240
Yeah. So that's probably the most asked question I ever get.

528
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:07,920
So good on you for being the one who asked it.

529
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:08,740
It's a great question.

530
00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:13,600
So we do a random sample of all your residents.

531
00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:15,740
And let me put it in context.

532
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,120
When we do a statewide survey, we do about 1,800 to 1,000.

533
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:29,560
When we do a national survey, let's say between 3,235,00.

534
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,840
So when you put that in context of Iselia, 500 is a pretty good

535
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:46,060
And in fact, the C manager likes to remind me that I asked for, I said, well, let's do a sample of 400, and she says, no, let's do 500, I feel better with that number.

536
00:43:46,660 --> 00:43:53,340
And we have used those kinds of numbers in the past, and at least when it comes to election day, so you have something to hold.

537
00:43:53,340 --> 00:44:15,460
My the results of our surveys to up for standards we've been pretty dead on. So I feel like we're representing your community and we make sure that the demographics of your adult population 18 plus mirrored the demographics of the communities survey. So I feel pretty good about that. But thanks for that question. This is a great one.

538
00:44:15,460 --> 00:44:17,080
Councilmember Prachigen.

539
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,480
Yeah, great report.

540
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,700
I will say this.

541
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,520
I've been part of this survey in the past.

542
00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:25,740
I think our goal used to be a 100 per quadrant.

543
00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:28,180
Does that give you enough information?

544
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,060
So the fact that it was random.

545
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,640
I think this is a little more exact of a science that we've done before.

546
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:38,660
We had our public or opinions ever done by the Citizens Advisory Committee.

547
00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:44,260
I will say I do appreciate you giving us the information for other

548
00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:48,260
are doing as well, or how we compare to other cities, because I think it shows where

549
00:44:48,260 --> 00:44:54,240
we're at compared against other cities. In the future, I would like to see kind of break

550
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,860
down per quadron, like what each quadron or their concern.

551
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,320
Councilor, needs, just so we can see like you know, it might be roads on one side of the city, but others are the city more

552
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:15,000
facility. So we know where people want things and kind of go off that for the future, but I think this

553
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,440
probably one of our most exact surveys that we've got in, and I'm going to great job.

554
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:26,700
Thanks, and I just want to say Kudos to you for working so hard to try to get, I mean, what you are doing is tough.

555
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:32,900
You know, I've been doing I have a PhD in this. I do it hard and you folks were just blood sweat and love of the city

556
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:34,420
So

557
00:45:34,420 --> 00:45:39,720
I will say this. I think it's better than when you guys are doing it because we were trying to stop people walk as they walk through the grocery stores

558
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:43,920
I don't know how exact that was is mostly yeah, everything's great everything's great

559
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,560
And we think my cookie and walk away from hell

560
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,060
You gave them a cookie

561
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:49,900
Wow, see they did it for the reward

562
00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:54,040
We gave them for the satisfaction that they're making difference in the city

563
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,200
So thank you for that.

564
00:45:55,420 --> 00:45:57,820
We probably got to calculate the bribe scale out of there

565
00:45:57,820 --> 00:45:59,040
to figure out the true number.

566
00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:00,460
All right.

567
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:01,480
Vice Mayor Win?

568
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,120
I actually was going to have the same question.

569
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,420
It's councilmember Pachea and just

570
00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:07,200
would be nice to have a quadrant.

571
00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:08,880
And you have the information as a possible.

572
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:12,500
You could just turn that out with your little statistical numbers.

573
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:13,640
Yeah.

574
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,460
The city.

575
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:18,060
Yes, that's not a problem.

576
00:46:19,620 --> 00:46:20,280
Thank you very much.

577
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,060
Obviously this is extremely important for us

578
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:26,660
because this is how we set future goals and agendas for our city.

579
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:31,860
We look at what our citizens are looking for, what the issues are, and how we can improve it as a city.

580
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:38,480
So we appreciate this data, because this will literally help us with all of our future policy throughout the year.

581
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,700
So we appreciate that. This is a public item, so anyone wish to speak on this.

582
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:46,100
Item, please come forward and state your name and city of residence.

583
00:46:48,430 --> 00:46:53,190
Mr. Mayor, if I could, just one thing is, I don't want anybody to think that this is just

584
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:55,390
going to go on a shelf, and it's going to grow dusty.

585
00:46:56,330 --> 00:47:00,610
There will begin to bring some things back, as you know, we're preparing a report on homelessness,

586
00:47:00,810 --> 00:47:03,330
we'll bring some ideas and concepts to you.

587
00:47:03,830 --> 00:47:08,310
There are many of these that are addressed already in your goals and objectives that you set

588
00:47:08,310 --> 00:47:14,230
earlier this year, but we will relate them back, as we bring forward things or as we begin

589
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:18,030
set budgetary goals related to this survey.

590
00:47:19,710 --> 00:47:22,370
And since I don't see anyone running up there to the speaker on the item,

591
00:47:22,770 --> 00:47:23,430
thank you very much.

592
00:47:23,630 --> 00:47:25,470
We appreciate it.

593
00:47:25,930 --> 00:47:26,490
Okay, next one.

594
00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:30,090
I'd like to item number three, which is the sanitary sewer master plan update.

595
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:38,800
Good afternoon, Council.

596
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,840
Jason Hugglery, a development engineering and building director.

597
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:45,840
I'll be joined with by Catherine Woodhold.

598
00:47:46,060 --> 00:47:49,440
You get our social engineer as well as our city engineer Chris Crawford.

599
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,560
Just quickly, as I, before I turn over to Catherine,

600
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,660
I'm super excited to be here to talk about the sort of

601
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:58,320
what's becoming the end of our sewer master plan update,

602
00:47:58,940 --> 00:48:00,740
and special things to Catherine and Chris for kind of pushing

603
00:48:00,740 --> 00:48:02,740
through this big, big project.

604
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,860
And with that, I'll turn over to Catherine.

605
00:48:09,530 --> 00:48:10,490
Good evening, Council.

606
00:48:10,590 --> 00:48:11,310
Members of the public.

607
00:48:11,390 --> 00:48:12,090
My name is Catherine.

608
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:12,910
We'll hope you get.

609
00:48:13,070 --> 00:48:15,490
I'm an Associate Engineer with the Engineering Building

610
00:48:15,490 --> 00:48:16,330
Department, as Jason said.

611
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:19,550
And tonight I'll be presenting on an update on the

612
00:48:19,550 --> 00:48:20,630
Sanitary sewer master plan.

613
00:48:23,890 --> 00:48:26,650
This presentation's agenda has four parts.

614
00:48:27,250 --> 00:48:30,290
The purpose and overview of the sewer master plan,

615
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:33,210
a next-study sneak peek, and then next steps.

616
00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:39,120
The purpose of the sewer master plan update is to update the

617
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,140
collection system hydraulic model, model the sewer system growth

618
00:48:43,140 --> 00:48:48,180
per the 2030 general plan land uses, assess capacity of the sewer

619
00:48:48,180 --> 00:48:52,140
collection system, identify needed upgrades and expansions

620
00:48:52,140 --> 00:48:54,000
to support growth per the general plan.

621
00:48:54,920 --> 00:49:00,260
provide direction for incoming development and provide capital improvement costs to update

622
00:49:00,260 --> 00:49:02,960
this wastewater truncline developer impact fee.

623
00:49:06,330 --> 00:49:08,570
For an overview of the sewer master plan update,

624
00:49:09,150 --> 00:49:14,390
the planning area assumptions and design criteria were carried over from a 1994 adopted

625
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:20,910
and the 2005 draft sewer master plans with only minor revisions. Additionally, most master

626
00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:26,450
plants, trunks, had only minor changes in size or alignment based on water conservation

627
00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:29,310
changes in the last one.

628
00:49:29,950 --> 00:49:34,070
One major difference from the previous master plants, which will be gone over in more

629
00:49:34,070 --> 00:49:38,810
detail later on, is new south-west quadrant reserve area trunks.

630
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:47,220
One key planning area assumption carried over from the 2005 draft sewer master plan was

631
00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:51,740
at the area shown in gray on the south side of the city, would not develop or connect to

632
00:49:51,740 --> 00:49:57,000
while the area shown yellow was assumed to develop at the ratios shown.

633
00:49:57,780 --> 00:49:59,960
The gray area was assumed not to develop in order to...

634
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,960
Permission to maintain separation between Visalia and the city of Tulari as called for in the general plan.

635
00:50:06,780 --> 00:50:14,900
The percentages for the area in yellow outside the sphere of influence were based on the distribution of existing development within the city,

636
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,600
but with the assumption that industrial development will remain within the industrial park.

637
00:50:23,570 --> 00:50:29,630
While the sewer master plan included modeling of the entire planning area shown in yellow on the previous slide,

638
00:50:29,630 --> 00:50:39,630
Only the trunk lines within the laugh-coaster of influence and the general plan urban growth boundaries are anticipated to occur within the next 20 years.

639
00:50:40,550 --> 00:50:42,170
These projects are shown here in blue.

640
00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:50,790
The trunk lines shown in gray are either outside the sphere of influence or triggered by build out beyond the sphere of influence if they're up-sizing.

641
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:58,710
These were modeled for planning purposes and to ensure downstream facilities were adequately sized.

642
00:51:03,090 --> 00:51:09,930
One major difference from the previous master plans is the inclusion of trunk clients in the Southwest Quadrant Reserve area.

643
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:19,450
Wastewater gravity main, WWGM 15 by Zalea Parkway Extension, was sized not only to convey flows from the Southwest Quadrant Reserve area,

644
00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:22,250
but also to enable growth in the South East Quadrant.

645
00:51:23,170 --> 00:51:27,350
This is a long-term project not anticipated to occur within the next 10 years.

646
00:51:27,350 --> 00:51:32,630
We used water gravity main 14, the south-sirk main, ties into the existing term climbing

647
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:36,870
on Walnut, and is intended to serve development of the reserve area along Shirk.

648
00:51:37,770 --> 00:51:42,170
While also in the sewer master plan as a long-term project, segments of it could be constructed

649
00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:47,210
sooner if needed should the reserve area develop.

650
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:57,150
This map was taken from the master plan report and chose the master plan project to

651
00:51:57,150 --> 00:51:58,270
a paid project face.

652
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,420
Once there are any questions on this section, we'll move on to the next study speak.

653
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:08,100
Any questions?

654
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,200
You know, I understand we're looking at the wastewater treatment plant.

655
00:52:11,620 --> 00:52:19,600
In this study, do you overlap it into how to expand the tertiary water from the plant?

656
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:20,940
No.

657
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:29,000
So the treatment plant itself has a separate master plan that was approved by Council last year

658
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:36,080
year before. The expansion of the tertiary water treatment, basically a recycling of water,

659
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:42,200
I do not believe it was, I'd have to go back and look at that plan again. I don't think

660
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:49,580
it was covered in much detail. One of the constraints with purple pipe and reclaim water in the

661
00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:56,700
expansion thereof is that it's reliant on us having a lot of water basically treated available.

662
00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:00,700
I know that historically the treatment plant has had

663
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,900
potential issues with generating significant amounts of

664
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:12,640
purple-pipe water because our water conservation efforts have been so successful.

665
00:53:14,540 --> 00:53:18,720
If water doesn't get flush down the drain, it doesn't get recyclable, right?

666
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:26,880
So the treatment plant has, and this, I believe, came up in the presentation by public

667
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:34,380
works of the treatment plant, has a higher solid to liquid ratio than it was projected

668
00:53:34,380 --> 00:53:39,860
historically, because of the water conservation efforts, which means the plant still has

669
00:53:39,860 --> 00:53:45,840
to be expanded and alike to deal with the solids, but we don't necessarily have all that

670
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:51,200
couple of pipe. We don't have that necessary tertiary treated water available to essentially

671
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,940
to necessarily expand that system.

672
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,480
Okay, thank you.

673
00:53:55,700 --> 00:54:02,520
In addition, Council Member, just gravity flow is against us and we'd probably be better

674
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,820
off to trade it out than to try and pump it.

675
00:54:10,940 --> 00:54:13,400
We have a question on that section before I move on.

676
00:54:19,390 --> 00:54:19,750
This slide

677
00:54:23,810 --> 00:54:26,630
shows the development related

678
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:32,450
projects and their costs broken out by anticipated phase. Engineering and tends to incorporate

679
00:54:32,450 --> 00:54:37,750
the cost of phases one through four which totaled to roughly 84 million into the next

680
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:44,150
study. Projects in phase five will not be included in the nexus scope because they are outside

681
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:51,270
the boundaries of the general plan. They may come back up after the next general plan update,

682
00:54:51,950 --> 00:54:54,830
but they are outside of the scope of the current nexus study.

683
00:54:56,780 --> 00:54:59,700
There are multiple fees that go into

684
00:55:00,180 --> 00:55:11,960
Any developments who are impact fee? There is a treatment plan, connection fee, a truncline capacity fee, and then also the front foot fee, which feeds into general wastewater fund.

685
00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:24,980
These costs are solely related to the truncline capacity fee. The current truncline capacity fee for a single family dwelling unit is $1,035.

686
00:55:24,980 --> 00:55:32,460
dollars. The based on our initial projections, which are preliminary and subject to change,

687
00:55:33,820 --> 00:55:40,540
the sewer trunk line impact fee is likely to increase by roughly $800 per equivalent

688
00:55:40,540 --> 00:55:45,280
while in unit without any further modifications,

689
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,260
but more detailed analysis will occur during

690
00:55:50,260 --> 00:55:56,560
the next study. So factors that are influencing that is that 30 years ago, when the previous

691
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:04,300
next study was done, they reduced the total impact fee by 25% and offset that by increasing

692
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:09,460
the service charges, which is no longer legally defensible move.

693
00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:14,560
But I'd be happy to answer

694
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:19,460
any questions on this, but we will be coming back into come back to Council during the next

695
00:56:19,460 --> 00:56:22,480
this is a new process for more in-depth discussion.

696
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:25,980
As well as providing stakeholder outreach,

697
00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:28,920
community involvement as we develop those fees.

698
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:37,360
So, since the, up to 2035, we have built that plant.

699
00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:41,980
Relay 2035, or phase three, is kind of getting a suit here three.

700
00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:45,580
And then we're just kind of guess to meeting what's going to happen in that,

701
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:50,000
because we don't know what structure we're going to go after tier three, correct?

702
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:56,000
Well, so phase four includes the southwest quadrant reserve area.

703
00:56:56,020 --> 00:56:59,120
That's the main difference between three and four.

704
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:04,400
The assumptions of those trunk lines are based on the EIR for the general plan,

705
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,820
which assumed a commercial or industrial land use.

706
00:57:09,380 --> 00:57:11,980
The for flow modeling purposes we assumed commercial,

707
00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:15,780
which would be equivalent to the light industrial,

708
00:57:15,980 --> 00:57:17,720
but not equivalent to heavy industrial.

709
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:23,480
and so we did not assume, for example, any dairy processing facilities, which would be very different.

710
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:31,080
The, and this will come to be discussed more in the next study.

711
00:57:32,540 --> 00:57:36,880
The intent of incorporating the fee.

712
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:46,780
The generated fee of just doing phases one through three,

713
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:50,600
because not only are you not because not just your numerator,

714
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,340
but also your denominator is changing.

715
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:57,460
So the difference between just having phase one through three

716
00:57:57,460 --> 00:58:01,060
versus having phase one through four won't necessarily

717
00:58:01,060 --> 00:58:01,800
be significant,

718
00:58:04,140 --> 00:58:06,560
phase five, which is for beyond the scope

719
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:11,200
of this here of influence is beyond this is way just guessing

720
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,520
and too far at this point.

721
00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:20,000
Also, when was the last time the developer fees for sewer were raised?

722
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:28,060
So the sewer fees are increased by the engineering news record construction cost index on

723
00:58:28,060 --> 00:58:28,860
an annual basis.

724
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:38,200
So they have been just incrementally increased since they were last actually studied, but they

725
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,740
were last actually studied 30 years ago.

726
00:58:40,740 --> 00:58:42,780
Yeah, I thought we were a little behind them all.

727
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,960
What about, doesn't it a portion of our residential sewer bill

728
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,420
help pay for some of these operational costs?

729
00:58:49,740 --> 00:58:52,160
So this is solely for the impact fee

730
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,080
is solely for the impact of new development and so it does not

731
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,100
incorporate any operational costs.

732
00:58:58,460 --> 00:58:59,200
OK, OK.

733
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,240
So the operational costs for the maintenance and operation

734
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,040
and the residential, but not the service charge,

735
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:34,140
Okay, he's a separate, separate fund and and part of money that the impact fee cannot actually be put into and so it's a, yeah, due to a mitigation fee actions and then if we were to have a heavy industrial user when we require a pretreatment plant on site before they could join our, we do typically require pretreatment for any sort of heavy industrial users that doesn't necessarily can guarantee their

736
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,340
impact their operation of those facilities to our standards.

737
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:48,120
It also would only necessarily mitigate the solids, but not necessarily the liquid components.

738
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:54,540
So if they are doing everything that they're supposed to, and then complying with their

739
00:59:54,540 --> 00:59:59,980
pre-treatment permits, then they won't necessarily have a significant impact on our facility.

740
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:15,940
But if they aren't necessarily great at complying and may incorporate the charge of our files into the cost of doing business, then things get more complicated.

741
01:00:16,460 --> 01:00:22,420
And I'm sorry if I missed this in the report. It was a lot to read. Oh, hi. If you talk a little bit about it, I thank you.

742
01:00:22,420 --> 01:00:24,100
So it's a very long package.

743
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:25,880
I don't envy you this task.

744
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,860
But so this master plan, did we have to,

745
01:00:29,860 --> 01:00:31,300
did we have to do an EIR for this?

746
01:00:31,460 --> 01:00:33,440
It was covered under the general plan EIR, or?

747
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,140
So originally the intent was that we were going to,

748
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,920
based on, look, so the current adopted 94 master plan

749
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,340
was done with an EIR.

750
01:00:43,380 --> 01:00:45,860
So the original thought was that we were going to do an EIR

751
01:00:45,860 --> 01:00:46,780
for this one.

752
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,880
And we did go as far as procurator consultant for that.

753
01:00:49,880 --> 01:01:02,200
But then after further discussing discussion, both with the consultant and with the planning department and taking into consideration the fact that we are in the process of starting a new update to the general plan

754
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:09,800
We determined that it did not make sense at this time to go through the effort before we are

755
01:01:11,220 --> 01:01:17,340
So we instead pivoted to a notice of exemption based on the consistency with a general plan

756
01:01:17,340 --> 01:01:47,240
And a large portion of that decision is that we are essentially committing, so if before constructing any of these projects, we will have to do additional environmental review of each project, but it was a term that they did not, we don't have the master plan acts more as a guideline than the projects are not set in stone to the extent where it makes sense to do all that environmental work ahead of time.

757
01:01:47,340 --> 01:01:47,560
Right.

758
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:49,660
Because they're going to have to do that as they submit their projects.

759
01:01:50,420 --> 01:01:50,640
Okay.

760
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,200
Thank you.

761
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,780
So for next steps, the sewer master plan report has been made available for public

762
01:02:02,780 --> 01:02:06,260
comment on the city website and as an attachment to the Council agenda.

763
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,780
On the city website, it can be found links from the engineering and building department

764
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:15,840
home page and then also under the engineering documents within that division.

765
01:02:17,780 --> 01:02:22,340
After providing four weeks for public comment, engineering staff intends to return it to Council

766
01:02:22,340 --> 01:02:27,060
on December 2nd, to approve and adopt the sewer-master plan as a regular session item.

767
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,500
This will enable the consultant Corolla to resume work on the next-study.

768
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:42,680
Then to put it in another way, after tonight's presentation, the master plan will be available

769
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:52,320
for public review and comment, and then adoption will occur by council in December with the

770
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,240
the recording of the notice of exemption as part of that process.

771
01:02:57,140 --> 01:03:03,380
The next study scope will include development of the draft impact fee, meetings with stakeholders,

772
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:07,780
and the development of the final report for presentation to council.

773
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,300
The next study work is expected to take roughly six months.

774
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:18,460
And we aim to bring the updated sewer impact fees to council for adoption in the summer of next year.

775
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,100
That's all I have.

776
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:27,220
And if you're ready, more questions, I'd be happy to address them.

777
01:03:27,740 --> 01:03:28,720
Any other questions from Council?

778
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,940
No questions, thank you.

779
01:03:32,380 --> 01:03:34,080
I just want to make a comment, thank you.

780
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,420
Thank you so much for your presentations.

781
01:03:36,620 --> 01:03:39,600
In a billion years, I never thought I know this much about the sewer system.

782
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:44,360
Or to say, the treatment center, so it's fantastic.

783
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,140
Now I know about what type of loads you're going to go to that system

784
01:03:48,140 --> 01:03:49,440
and how we clear everything out.

785
01:03:49,580 --> 01:03:52,060
So thank you for all the information that you're going to do to us.

786
01:03:52,060 --> 01:03:55,300
I couldn't use the word, but I'm like, I like to use the thunder.

787
01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:58,400
Well, they fleshed out all the information.

788
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,500
Great report, very thorough.

789
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:15,020
It's a very eye-opening the depth that that report was, and your report tonight, and I appreciate it.

790
01:04:15,180 --> 01:04:20,380
It's amazing when you see that kind of work, and then you see the kind of numbers that go into trying to achieve that.

791
01:04:20,380 --> 01:04:25,740
at that goal. Very great before. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

792
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,240
All right, let's go to an opens up to the public. Anybody from a public

793
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,780
question to speak on this item? Please come forward.

794
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,800
And seeing no one, I will

795
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,820
entertain a motion. I would have received the update presentation on the

796
01:04:39,820 --> 01:04:44,800
sanitary sewer system master plan. First and second, please vote.

797
01:04:55,820 --> 01:04:59,980
And the

798
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,780
Thank you for giving that out to us, early. I appreciate it.

799
01:05:04,140 --> 01:05:08,200
All right, next one, ground to item number four, engineering division presentation.

800
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,060
Thank you, getting council to be a Christian myself on this one.

801
01:05:13,540 --> 01:05:18,900
Just briefly, we had intended originally to give you a full update for all engineering division divisions,

802
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:25,560
which would include engineering development, traffic safety as well as the engineering design and capital improvement programs.

803
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:31,020
We just had too much to cover, so we're going to give Chris his opportunity to go through

804
01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:38,380
the changes and it kind of pretty happy update for you on how he has this division moving forward.

805
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,240
Briefly, I've worked with those reflect on us a little bit scenario earlier.

806
01:05:42,260 --> 01:05:44,920
I've worked with Chris for, I think, over 20 years now.

807
01:05:45,380 --> 01:05:50,580
He's a bit of a rarity in that he, and you told me he's one time, he eats breeze in the sleep system.

808
01:05:52,320 --> 01:06:01,360
And it's awesome to have him back, he's been back a little over a year, and again, the direction that we're moving under his leadership and expertise has been phenomenal.

809
01:06:01,860 --> 01:06:07,580
And I think you're going to see some of that tonight as he goes through his presentation, so thank you to Chris and thank you for joining us.

810
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:18,040
Yeah, good afternoon council members. Just to kind of give us a little introduction on this, we've got a pretty small group in here tonight, so I guess feel free to be pretty informal.

811
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,480
Well, if you guys have questions about anything,

812
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,860
I'm going over a feel free to stop and just ask questions.

813
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,800
This is really just for council's benefit

814
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,800
to make sure we have a really good grasp on kind of

815
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,020
the things that engineering departments doing.

816
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,200
And just make sure that you kind of know

817
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,680
where all this money is going because it's a lot of money.

818
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,300
So kind of is a brief thing on my background,

819
01:06:36,540 --> 01:06:38,060
like 16 years of my experience been spent

820
01:06:38,060 --> 01:06:39,260
in the private sector, right?

821
01:06:39,740 --> 01:06:41,240
So I mean, extremely efficient,

822
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,980
like extremely cost effective.

823
01:06:43,140 --> 01:06:45,200
That's highly important for private sector, right?

824
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,640
That's what a lot of my background is.

825
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,940
So coming into the city, I'm always looking at kind of ways we can improve.

826
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:54,820
So a lot of that's going to be kind of discussed here tonight, along with a lot of the good things that we're doing.

827
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,840
Seven years of that time has been spent previously at city of Isalia.

828
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:05,800
So I got a lot of experience with this staff here, and I'm usually consult for a lot of the city staff members and stuff like that.

829
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,340
So a lot of relations has been built over the years.

830
01:07:09,260 --> 01:07:15,920
So kind of jumping right into this, I think council has a pretty good idea of what the capital improvement project division does.

831
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,940
basically do all the planning, designing,

832
01:07:18,340 --> 01:07:20,580
construction for all the capital projects, essentially.

833
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:23,140
So could be something as small as the Plaza Park

834
01:07:23,140 --> 01:07:25,800
Prond to something as big as the Civic Center, right?

835
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:28,580
So like anything in between lots of street projects.

836
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,280
You know, I think that if you just drive around

837
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,440
town right now, you're going to really quickly see

838
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,000
what engineering's been up to, you know?

839
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:36,920
So one of the important things with this group

840
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,920
is we do have a lot of ability to do like designs

841
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,780
and how's serving and how's drafting and how's things like that.

842
01:07:43,780 --> 01:07:49,380
whether or not we are able to save money and do those things and how it really depends on how busy we are.

843
01:07:49,580 --> 01:07:56,560
So, and right now we're super busy, so we're utilizing a lot of consultant services right now is kind of how we're keeping up with things.

844
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:08,400
Coming back from from the private side. Again, one of the things that really stuck out that it kind of wanted to make sure we went over with Council is that.

845
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:13,380
And right now on our list, we have about somewhere around 200 CIP projects, and probably about

846
01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:16,360
$450 million of funding that's on this list, right?

847
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,300
Which is a ton of money.

848
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,340
So one of my most important things coming back is, you know, what's our backlog?

849
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,000
Like, what are we actually able to do per year, right?

850
01:08:24,260 --> 01:08:27,220
Because like in the private side, we define that by labor, right?

851
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:32,180
So it's like if I've got $5 million in billable labor within engineers, then my backlog

852
01:08:32,180 --> 01:08:35,280
shouldn't be more than $10 million because that's about two years of work.

853
01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:36,540
And it gets to be more than that.

854
01:08:36,540 --> 01:08:37,960
I know I need to hire a lot of staff.

855
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,620
I'm going to be in a real trouble, all right?

856
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,620
So looking at kind of the backlog that we've got here

857
01:08:42,620 --> 01:08:43,280
is the city.

858
01:08:43,900 --> 01:08:47,360
The labor stuff is not as easy, but what I get

859
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,920
think is definable is a backlog metric,

860
01:08:50,440 --> 01:08:53,080
is what the actual amount of money is we spend

861
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,160
on capital projects throughout the year.

862
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,340
So kind of looking at this over the years,

863
01:08:57,900 --> 01:08:59,440
like you can see kind of where we're at,

864
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,180
we're at about $30 million, right?

865
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,700
Being spent each year.

866
01:09:02,820 --> 01:09:04,840
And there's $550 million on that list.

867
01:09:04,980 --> 01:09:06,000
That's quite an issue, right?

868
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,060
Like, I mean, because we got to start kicking some stuff out and really get some things done,

869
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,240
which is kind of what you're seeing going on right now.

870
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:18,020
So, I'll apologize for the, it was a bad time this year to ask that question about traffic congestion

871
01:09:18,020 --> 01:09:20,160
and your, your public survey there, right?

872
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:21,340
Like, this year.

873
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:25,340
So, like, we'll apologize a little bit, I'm now the engineering side, but we're going to catch up

874
01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:26,840
right now is what's going on, you know?

875
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:31,720
So, a lot of projects with grant funding deadlines, deadlines for things like the Costco facility,

876
01:09:31,980 --> 01:09:33,960
things like that, or what's going on right now.

877
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:39,580
But, you know, looking at this, what we're having to do a little bit differently right now is

878
01:09:39,580 --> 01:09:43,620
utilize like a lot more consultant assistance that kind of get us caught up, right?

879
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:49,600
So I mean it's easy to see like you can't keep up with staff you've got, like you've got to do something to get caught back up, right?

880
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:54,060
And that's one of the things that we've been focused on a lot the last year.

881
01:09:54,740 --> 01:09:59,980
Just to kind of give you a little bit of idea about where we're at with staff in the capital.

882
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:25,440
We really have like a very few number of staff members compared to the actual like volume of work we do. So really, like on this list, there's about five people that are actually licensed engineers like for all the work that is done in the city, which is a pretty low number, we do have a lot of like assistant associate staff members, some support staff members, this drafting, surveying technicians and so on.

883
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:31,440
One of the things that like just very transparent here has been a real struggles we've been

884
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:35,980
rebuilding a lot of staff right like because over the last period of what it looks like

885
01:10:35,980 --> 01:10:41,700
about two to seven years ago there was this huge turnover in staff like so like this is

886
01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:47,800
statistic for you know we have about you know ten like people with engineering or project

887
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:52,480
manager titles that you see on this page if I just take the five like most recent ones that's

888
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:55,500
been here an average of like 11 months or less at the city, right?

889
01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:00,660
So that's not a good metric, like for us, like for the city side.

890
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,980
So one of the things we're really trying to focus on is training those staff, getting

891
01:11:04,980 --> 01:11:09,300
up the speed and retaining them is going to be a huge thing, like because when we fall

892
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:13,700
behind like on the CIP side, there's a lot of costs associated with that, right?

893
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,640
So I'll talk about that a little bit more moving forward, like, but you know, a lot of departments

894
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:24,900
at the city if you have some vacancies and everything that's probably not that big of a deal

895
01:11:24,900 --> 01:11:30,100
right if it's an operational thing. For the CIP group, if you have an operational vacancy,

896
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,980
you're talking about $23 million of products that probably aren't moving like so which comes

897
01:11:34,980 --> 01:11:39,900
into losses and construction costs and decreases and things like that right. So it's a really

898
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:40,660
big deal.

899
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:48,330
And the good thing with this is that about the last like one to two years, Jason

900
01:11:48,330 --> 01:11:52,990
the director started working on back-filling a lot of positions before I showed up. We've been working

901
01:11:52,990 --> 01:11:57,670
on it really heavily the last year and a half, right? So we're almost completely like staffed

902
01:11:57,670 --> 01:12:03,430
up right now again. And the only early open position is that professional answer of air position,

903
01:12:03,690 --> 01:12:07,710
and that reason, I mean it's just there's so few of them, there's not much you can do about it,

904
01:12:07,710 --> 01:12:11,770
unless you're going to throw out just a super high salary to get somebody in. So right now we're

905
01:12:11,770 --> 01:12:18,470
just using consultants to kind of like bridge that gap right now. This is kind of one of the big

906
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:24,430
thing has been helping us like keep up with projects at the moment. We've done a lot of work

907
01:12:24,430 --> 01:12:29,990
getting a lot of these on-call contracts with consultants put in place. Probably one of the

908
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:33,710
biggest one that we've done this year that's helping us really start up a lot of the design

909
01:12:33,710 --> 01:12:38,110
products that we're supposed to be startup up right now is that civil engineering design on

910
01:12:38,110 --> 01:12:43,630
call contract. We've got five firms on there right now so we've started like quite a few projects

911
01:12:44,190 --> 01:12:48,290
that we're trying to get back on schedule through that so it's been like a really beneficial

912
01:12:48,290 --> 01:12:54,550
thing. It helps a purchasing department a lot because the on-call contracts we don't have to put RFP after RFP

913
01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:58,550
after RFP through a purchasing department because they're just really backlog trying to

914
01:12:58,550 --> 01:13:03,590
kip off all the other civil, all the other departments. So what we're trying to do is kind of take

915
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:08,250
that load a little bit off of them. Like and also make the engineering department more efficient.

916
01:13:08,970 --> 01:13:18,270
Like saves our consultants, money are also so ended up makes our consultant contracts a little bit

917
01:13:18,270 --> 01:13:23,070
have right now with the consultants, where the thing says federalize what that means is there's

918
01:13:23,070 --> 01:13:27,490
about a 50 extra page we have to do in every single RFP, if it's going to be a federally

919
01:13:27,490 --> 01:13:33,390
funded thing, right? So we've got the ability to use this for federal funding if we want to,

920
01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:40,670
so which is kind of a big benefit for us at the city and everything. So in these contracts we've

921
01:13:40,670 --> 01:13:44,550
kind of talked about this a little bit when we view a war to these accounts, but the way it works is

922
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:50,730
if we have local funding, we try and do those selections kind of on a rotational basis, try

923
01:13:50,730 --> 01:13:54,710
and keep the cost out, it's right evenly between people on the on-call list and everything,

924
01:13:54,930 --> 01:13:58,510
so it's reasonably fair and locally funding, we can do that.

925
01:13:58,870 --> 01:14:04,290
State and federal funding, we do have to do a mini RFP process, which is like qualifications

926
01:14:04,290 --> 01:14:08,710
based selections, just with those on-call consultants and whoever appears to be the most

927
01:14:08,710 --> 01:14:13,230
qualified or most knowledgeable about those projects or the ones that end up getting it.

928
01:14:13,230 --> 01:14:18,050
So one other thing has been asked by Council in the past to use it.

929
01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:23,210
We put kind of like a dollar limitation on those contracts for each consultant.

930
01:14:23,790 --> 01:14:27,970
So a lot of the bigger projects still come back to the council to get awarded, right?

931
01:14:27,970 --> 01:14:30,050
Like, do you want council to be aware of what's going on?

932
01:14:30,210 --> 01:14:33,950
We also want council to be a ones that are awarding the big dollar contracts.

933
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:39,350
So we'll run large majority of stuff through Council staff reports,

934
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:59,930
But, like, we'll still maintain, like, let's say, if I've got a $500,000 contract right, but my consultant is a million dollar project, we'll come to council, get the extra authorization for the million dollars, and then retain our $500,000 ability for engineering to kind of hire consultants for smaller things or emergency things, because that's what we really need is just to keep some capacity.

935
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,240
For emergency things that happen, or we need to act really quickly.

936
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:15,930
Kind of just go through like a brief thing about some of the major projects here. So, you know,

937
01:15:16,090 --> 01:15:19,830
that list is like 200 projects long, so we'll get to that question for you on this. If you guys

938
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:24,190
have specific questions about projects, go ahead and throw them out there, because we just picked kind of some of the

939
01:15:24,190 --> 01:15:30,530
bigger major ones to go over. So, civic centers probably on everybody's mind. Completion on that

940
01:15:30,530 --> 01:15:33,210
if you're still to be on schedule July, 2027.

941
01:15:33,850 --> 01:15:35,590
So I don't know if you've driven by out there

942
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:38,290
but there are just loads of people working out there all the time.

943
01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:40,050
So lots of good progress out there.

944
01:15:40,050 --> 01:15:42,730
So that's really something positive to see for the city.

945
01:15:43,050 --> 01:15:47,950
The ride, Clubhouse 1's been another kind of big, quick,

946
01:15:48,130 --> 01:15:50,210
and unique project where we actually did a little bit

947
01:15:50,210 --> 01:15:52,050
of a design boat process with that.

948
01:15:52,170 --> 01:15:53,590
It's actually been going really well.

949
01:15:53,930 --> 01:15:56,550
So right now, the outfilled fence is nearly done out there.

950
01:15:56,650 --> 01:15:58,650
The batting cage is nearly done right now.

951
01:15:58,650 --> 01:16:03,270
the club house is moving along really well, so that's probably been like very successful

952
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:07,250
like with the way that's being managed and I think city manager and the owner for the

953
01:16:07,250 --> 01:16:11,370
raw hide actually went out there and did a site review of that the other day and just

954
01:16:11,370 --> 01:16:15,490
all really complimentary from the raw hide side of staff and everything else so in the project

955
01:16:15,490 --> 01:16:22,090
so it's really great. Shirk whitening project right now the completion for that we're thinking

956
01:16:22,090 --> 01:16:29,450
March, 2026. So good. So this is going to be all the way when I need it to be four lines.

957
01:16:29,630 --> 01:16:35,090
Correct. Yeah. Well, okay. With the exception that when you get to Sherkin Mill Creek,

958
01:16:35,270 --> 01:16:40,030
we've got kind of a bottleneck once you hit right there. So this will be four lanes to around Hillsdale,

959
01:16:40,290 --> 01:16:46,010
right now. Like, and then we got it multiple projects that I'll kind of talk.

960
01:16:46,350 --> 01:16:50,110
Well, I'm going to mention that now. We got multiple projects going on on sure.

961
01:16:50,110 --> 01:17:01,150
So there's a shirk and mill creek project that's going to underground the mill creek right there this currently opened ditch and then also like widen the culverts so we can actually make the road for lanes.

962
01:17:01,670 --> 01:17:19,110
So that's one project. There's also a shirk operational project that's going to be for installing traffic signals over the interchange right there to get vehicles to move more efficient right there. Also some lane reconfiguration stuff right there like and then there's also the shirk widening project that's going to be south of 198.

963
01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:27,190
Like, and that's installing the big trunk line from 198 all the way to Walnut to kind of finish off that segment that goes all the way to the Costco area

964
01:17:27,190 --> 01:17:35,910
Like and then we've got some probably like what I would say to be a fourth project. It's going to be the shirt and Walnut intersection signal and everything right there

965
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:44,230
So we're doing a lot of work with different property owners talking to him about some of those things and like work with different consultants on those things

966
01:17:45,310 --> 01:17:48,210
like there's a lot of stuff when on some of those

967
01:17:48,210 --> 01:17:49,690
are just really complicated projects.

968
01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:54,310
Chris, on the shirt, I thought between,

969
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:56,590
was it Hillsdale, one idea, Hillsdale,

970
01:17:57,610 --> 01:17:58,910
and Hurley right in there.

971
01:17:59,190 --> 01:18:00,930
That's two years out because we had to get something

972
01:18:00,930 --> 01:18:03,290
stamped by the Army Corps of Engineers, right?

973
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:04,910
I see that's a question.

974
01:18:04,990 --> 01:18:06,270
Why don't we just do it now?

975
01:18:06,610 --> 01:18:08,110
Well, everyone's uncomfortable with the construction

976
01:18:08,110 --> 01:18:10,110
that's getting it done now, and I was told,

977
01:18:11,250 --> 01:18:13,430
well, we turn our plans into the Army Corps of Engineers,

978
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:16,750
but they said it's two years out, so that's why we're kind of delaying the project, right?

979
01:18:17,250 --> 01:18:22,910
Yeah, so just to be, what we found out about that project is I had staff go back with that

980
01:18:22,910 --> 01:18:26,230
because kind of went through a number of staff members, like that project did, so I hadn't

981
01:18:26,230 --> 01:18:29,870
go back and look at the entire history of that project and where we were out with that.

982
01:18:30,030 --> 01:18:33,990
Like in what's happened is it, apparently that consultant didn't get the army courses

983
01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:38,530
have submitted, but now it's been so long because that project started and it stopped and started

984
01:18:38,530 --> 01:18:42,890
so many times that we've got kind of a change order that we're not super happy with,

985
01:18:42,890 --> 01:18:47,970
that the contractor is proposed and we're in negotiations with that consultant to see if we can

986
01:18:47,970 --> 01:18:51,930
kind of get past that and get to some kind of agreement so we can get that thing finished.

987
01:18:52,490 --> 01:18:57,450
So right now that thing is being held up by the consultant a little bit because they,

988
01:18:57,970 --> 01:19:02,150
you know, not super happy that product's been going on for so long so we're having to work

989
01:19:02,150 --> 01:19:08,910
some internal things out but that's where that is. So we'll probably get an update to council on that

990
01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:12,870
when we get that kind of avenue to get that done and worked out with them.

991
01:19:13,190 --> 01:19:15,770
So I talked to the neighborhood around Hurley and Cherka.

992
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:16,770
First, they liked the construction.

993
01:19:17,130 --> 01:19:18,530
They said, oh, it's like our own private road now,

994
01:19:18,610 --> 01:19:19,770
because no one comes down here anymore.

995
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:20,270
Oh, yeah.

996
01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:22,250
So they liked that.

997
01:19:22,910 --> 01:19:23,950
But they were aware of it.

998
01:19:23,950 --> 01:19:26,890
They said, what, and I was trying to prep on a bicycle a little longer

999
01:19:26,890 --> 01:19:28,290
and be another section.

1000
01:19:28,990 --> 01:19:31,550
Also, on the Civic Center, I drove by the other day,

1001
01:19:31,670 --> 01:19:35,510
they had the bell tower set up there, which looks really cool.

1002
01:19:36,010 --> 01:19:38,790
And then the Rahok High Clubhouse, I walked out with

1003
01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:43,350
the manager and the Ryan management and the wall and the banners I look fantastic.

1004
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:47,750
Looks more modern, kind of an industrial look with that metal they have there but looks

1005
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:48,310
really good.

1006
01:19:48,410 --> 01:19:52,170
The clubhouse is going along really good, a new batting cage, a way to remember anything

1007
01:19:52,170 --> 01:19:57,730
looks fantastic and the raw height teamer, very complimentary of staff, much to enjoy working

1008
01:19:57,730 --> 01:19:58,230
with you guys.

1009
01:19:58,350 --> 01:19:58,850
So great job.

1010
01:19:59,350 --> 01:19:59,490
Yeah.

1011
01:20:02,510 --> 01:20:17,950
Kind of moving on. One of the on the shirt widening project. Yeah, completion March 2006, Costco would like that to be a little bit sooner, but we've kind of made them aware of that. We're kind of giving them routine updates on that and it seems like that.

1012
01:20:18,530 --> 01:20:28,650
Yeah, there were that but we're continuing to talk with them about that because the February date that we were talking about often on seem like it might be a little bit soon for the rig and Kelsey to shirt project.

1013
01:20:29,350 --> 01:20:35,330
Gover like one more project on this list than all kind of move on here just for the sake of time.

1014
01:20:35,670 --> 01:20:38,770
Like the color widening project from Santa Fe to Lovers Lane.

1015
01:20:39,910 --> 01:20:41,650
That one is expected to be done like May 2026.

1016
01:20:42,350 --> 01:20:44,450
That's one that's been around for quite a while.

1017
01:20:45,150 --> 01:20:50,030
This was an example that we'll talk about real quick where you know this thing started back in 2016.

1018
01:20:50,770 --> 01:20:54,410
Like realistically probably four or five years that thing should have been done right.

1019
01:20:54,570 --> 01:20:56,330
This is one of those ones that kind of sat around.

1020
01:20:56,330 --> 01:21:10,290
Like, this is something that, you know, Jason, I've talked about a lot or we're really going to try and prevent this from happening in the future because what happened during the last five years is there was about 38% construction costs increases right like in the construction industry.

1021
01:21:10,830 --> 01:21:26,310
So I mean on that project alone probably equivalents like five and a half million dollars of extra costs right so I mean we're aware of that we're looking into that like we're trying to really make sure that staff when we're doing budget stuff we've got escalation factors on like the construction costs we're using now.

1022
01:21:26,810 --> 01:21:31,230
depending on what year or four or five years from now that's going to be actually constructed.

1023
01:21:31,950 --> 01:21:36,570
So we got quite a few projects like that that we're cleaning up that have been around for a long time.

1024
01:21:36,930 --> 01:21:40,630
And I think that Council members, some of you guys have recognized that we're coming back in a lot of

1025
01:21:40,630 --> 01:21:42,370
products having to ask for more money, right?

1026
01:21:42,750 --> 01:21:45,330
Like I mean, but that's the reason is there's just a lot of stuff.

1027
01:21:45,390 --> 01:21:49,490
A lot of things that happened with the staff turnover just didn't get moved along or didn't get done.

1028
01:21:50,170 --> 01:21:52,690
So we're kind of working through a lot of that stuff.

1029
01:21:53,330 --> 01:21:59,290
I'll kind of skip over kind of that next page of projects right there if I'm

1030
01:21:59,290 --> 01:22:01,870
be asked questions on any of those let me know.

1031
01:22:02,010 --> 01:22:02,730
I have a question.

1032
01:22:03,610 --> 01:22:08,970
Any possibility of I sell you a parkway jumping all the way to at least

1033
01:22:08,970 --> 01:22:11,550
binematics or all the way to Lovers Lane at some point?

1034
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:15,410
So the big struggle on that one is the railroad right?

1035
01:22:15,410 --> 01:22:16,010
Why did you?

1036
01:22:16,170 --> 01:22:20,650
I talked to T-Cag about that hopefully we could try to work that out but.

1037
01:22:20,730 --> 01:22:20,950
Yeah.

1038
01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:24,750
I think we have a plan. I think we have a plan on play, so we'll see.

1039
01:22:25,290 --> 01:22:29,630
There's a good plan. If we can pull it off, then it might help us out a lot.

1040
01:22:30,770 --> 01:22:33,910
Yeah, so it is being worked on talked about.

1041
01:22:34,190 --> 01:22:37,010
It's just that's the issue right at the moment.

1042
01:22:38,330 --> 01:22:42,650
That would give us a major east-west corridor right there.

1043
01:22:43,570 --> 01:22:47,690
Because right now it's great to booney and to acres.

1044
01:22:47,690 --> 01:22:49,490
But we've pushed that all the way through.

1045
01:22:49,610 --> 01:22:51,490
I think that really opens things up for our residents.

1046
01:22:52,090 --> 01:22:54,910
So I think that for sure.

1047
01:22:55,790 --> 01:22:57,330
Any other questions on current?

1048
01:22:57,790 --> 01:22:59,450
Products that we're on that?

1049
01:22:59,510 --> 01:23:04,490
No, I was just looking at Reagan, Reagan, to Eddie Drive.

1050
01:23:04,730 --> 01:23:07,390
We're still going to have that little where it goes from four lanes.

1051
01:23:07,490 --> 01:23:08,710
Two lanes, right past Costco.

1052
01:23:10,290 --> 01:23:11,090
Is that going to Reagan?

1053
01:23:11,330 --> 01:23:12,790
I know it's just going to go all the way.

1054
01:23:12,910 --> 01:23:14,230
But we don't have that planned yet, do we?

1055
01:23:14,930 --> 01:23:17,670
The Reagan Kelsey to shirt party that we're doing right now

1056
01:23:17,670 --> 01:23:19,670
was actually supposed to make that four lanes.

1057
01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:21,190
So West of?

1058
01:23:21,190 --> 01:23:22,350
To Betty Drive?

1059
01:23:22,810 --> 01:23:25,410
Yeah, they're the last piece we call it.

1060
01:23:25,470 --> 01:23:27,830
The list of the last pieces is going to be that,

1061
01:23:27,930 --> 01:23:30,750
let's see, a robin to the list of acres.

1062
01:23:30,850 --> 01:23:31,050
Right.

1063
01:23:31,310 --> 01:23:33,110
That piece is in design now.

1064
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:35,410
I think I've been hearing it's 30% probably moving towards

1065
01:23:35,410 --> 01:23:36,590
50% design now.

1066
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:39,250
We're still trying to secure construction dollars on it.

1067
01:23:39,250 --> 01:23:41,650
OK, that was, but it is in design now.

1068
01:23:41,650 --> 01:23:42,450
Yeah, but it doesn't matter.

1069
01:23:42,450 --> 01:23:43,510
You're not good enough, honey, for that.

1070
01:23:43,950 --> 01:23:45,350
OK, somebody asked me, and I said,

1071
01:23:45,530 --> 01:23:47,490
I think we don't have the money, but if you want to donate,

1072
01:23:47,490 --> 01:23:48,730
We would be happy to get this.

1073
01:23:49,930 --> 01:23:52,810
The rope in the acres part we did.

1074
01:23:52,810 --> 01:23:55,210
Get notified by Califarans and got like really forcing.

1075
01:23:55,250 --> 01:23:57,910
We picked up about 1.3 million for that not too long ago.

1076
01:23:58,390 --> 01:24:00,950
So I think there was like some federal earmark.

1077
01:24:01,090 --> 01:24:03,290
We picked up never quarter million dollars or something on that.

1078
01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:06,270
So we're kind of like trying to compile money, you know.

1079
01:24:06,530 --> 01:24:07,290
Like for that part.

1080
01:24:07,650 --> 01:24:10,770
But I mean since that's the last segment that we've got right there to kind of

1081
01:24:10,770 --> 01:24:12,570
complete the four lane all the way through town.

1082
01:24:12,590 --> 01:24:16,530
It's a pretty appealing thing for grant funding and everything we're hoping.

1083
01:24:16,530 --> 01:24:19,870
So we're going to just continue to track and pile money for that.

1084
01:24:20,050 --> 01:24:20,490
Thank you Chris.

1085
01:24:20,630 --> 01:24:21,650
Are we still talking about it?

1086
01:24:21,650 --> 01:24:24,110
I know at one time they're talking about doing roundabouts in there.

1087
01:24:24,290 --> 01:24:24,790
We're on the school.

1088
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:26,510
Is that still happening or now?

1089
01:24:26,930 --> 01:24:30,310
There's an existing roundabout now near the school there.

1090
01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:37,030
The Carleton Acres master planning incorporates additional smaller roundabouts.

1091
01:24:37,210 --> 01:24:39,110
Isn't there a lot of rigging though, right?

1092
01:24:39,310 --> 01:24:40,370
No, not on rigging.

1093
01:24:40,590 --> 01:24:43,110
Well I think one point they were talking about putting them around where they were talking

1094
01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:44,670
with the high school was going to go.

1095
01:24:44,670 --> 01:24:46,170
Yeah, not in all of them.

1096
01:24:46,690 --> 01:24:48,590
Thank you.

1097
01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:49,230
Yeah.

1098
01:24:51,270 --> 01:24:52,790
Any other of those CIP projects?

1099
01:24:52,930 --> 01:24:54,390
You guys have questions on those slides?

1100
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:58,790
Kind of moving on just to some of the other big projects

1101
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:59,970
that aren't run through.

1102
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:06,780
We're real quick. Can you talk about the delays on the lever lane 198?

1103
01:25:09,780 --> 01:25:18,300
Yeah, okay. So I understand now. I had to get relatively involved with that. So there's a lot of details related to that.

1104
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:27,320
But what sounded like happened is there was an unforeseen like Edison line found that went to those four creeks apartments right there.

1105
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:32,000
like in, um, it delayed a lot of the construction out there according to

1106
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,100
calterans, but I think there was a lot of back and forth communication between

1107
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:39,880
calterans and SE that didn't probably get done the way it should have. And

1108
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,680
apparently they're dealing with the relatively difficult contractor out there. So

1109
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:47,880
it delayed a fair amount of that work. And I just talked to that,

1110
01:25:48,220 --> 01:25:52,500
construction manager out there today, and they're saying probably now, hopefully a worst case

1111
01:25:52,500 --> 01:26:00,760
is September, 2026. That's going to be done. But yeah, it's a big extension out there, like

1112
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,780
on that. So yeah, it's a lot of the residents have been frustrated about that. We've taken

1113
01:26:04,780 --> 01:26:08,840
phone calls for it. We've got to get involved with call trends and SEO and some of that stuff

1114
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:14,620
and kind of just to help push things along. But we've had a lot of people up a lot higher in different

1115
01:26:14,620 --> 01:26:19,000
government agencies had to get involved with that to push that along too. So I mean, it's been a

1116
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,340
real frustrating thing for a lot of our residents.

1117
01:26:25,860 --> 01:26:31,060
That one is like September 2020, six is what they're anticipating for completion on that.

1118
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,920
And I did talk, when I talked to that construction manager today, they said that they actually

1119
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:41,380
do have that meter pedestal in now, like out there, and they've got the field work approved

1120
01:26:41,380 --> 01:26:44,620
by the SEE, so they're getting it, they're into scheduling now.

1121
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,000
So it's moved now since we've got pretty highly involved with it.

1122
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:55,100
like so if they're making progress out there the next one this on here is that

1123
01:26:55,100 --> 01:27:00,200
CalTrans Highway 99 and call will have a new interchange project you know some

1124
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:07,160
updates on this one to fortunately this isn't like inconveniencing a lot of our

1125
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,300
residents right now but originally like staff here at the city was told that

1126
01:27:10,300 --> 01:27:15,240
was supposed to start back in August of 2025 right like now based on I guess

1127
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,660
issues with similar things with utilities that CalTrans House out there right

1128
01:27:18,660 --> 01:27:22,280
Now, that's expected to be October 2026, but that's going to start.

1129
01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:25,200
So, yeah, yep.

1130
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:32,380
So, yeah, so that's the most current that we know of on that one, but that's going to be

1131
01:27:32,380 --> 01:27:36,240
like a three-year project once it starts, and they're definitely going to be inconveniences

1132
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,840
at the inter-changes and stuff like that right there.

1133
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,160
So, like I told the Gus what we're going to also just now, we waited 30 years, but I'm going

1134
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:43,400
to wait for more of you here for that one right now.

1135
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,640
Yeah, yeah, you got to hang around a little bit more to see that one through.

1136
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:53,860
Another big project that CalTrans and city staff have kind of been

1137
01:27:53,860 --> 01:27:58,600
according with together is the State Route 63 we have and that's going to go from

1138
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:04,740
about 198 in Muni and it's going to go east down Mineral King and Noble for in the areas

1139
01:28:04,740 --> 01:28:08,760
that are CalTrans right away on that road and then it's going to go completely north up

1140
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:14,760
and in court street all the way through the north side of town.

1141
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,080
So right now I mean it's going to be a huge like rehab project for them.

1142
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,900
They're talking about you know putting bike lanes in there and stuff like that.

1143
01:28:22,020 --> 01:28:23,420
So city's working with them on that.

1144
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:26,520
They're talking about upgrading ADA ramps and a bunch of other things.

1145
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:31,160
So it should be like a really beneficial like project for the city cleaning a lot of stuff up.

1146
01:28:31,940 --> 01:28:36,280
But the construction on that they're estimating probably 2829 is what they're thinking.

1147
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,860
I think narrow that down to two lanes when it goes through downtown.

1148
01:28:40,780 --> 01:28:45,580
Yeah, it's the busy, you know, where it should be the slowest you've got three lanes and people are tearing through there.

1149
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:54,040
Yeah, so I guess what we've talked about with like admin staff and engineering and we've kind of broached with cow trans is that

1150
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:59,580
the city likes to keep its parking right in the downtown so that's kind of a big priority but we talked about

1151
01:28:59,580 --> 01:29:05,480
There's a stretch from like about mineral king to a sequia where there's three lanes right now

1152
01:29:05,480 --> 01:29:09,360
where we're saying, hey, let's keep the three lanes right there because one of it's in front of the hospital

1153
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:16,800
like which is pretty important to have like capacity right there like in the other one's going to be coming off the bridge

1154
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:21,000
which is going to be really important to have capacity without there's going to be back up over the bridge and everything

1155
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:27,480
but then once we go north of a sequia we have been talking about just making those three lane areas two lanes to keep the parking

1156
01:29:27,480 --> 01:29:31,640
Right there, like then be able to add the bike lanes and everything so that's what we have

1157
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:36,260
Talk with cow trans about and that's what they're trying to work up can songs because some can songs concepts with

1158
01:29:36,260 --> 01:29:42,320
So, but that's stuff when we get some content from them that are kind of more further along because right now

1159
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:49,800
We don't really have a lot like you know we can bring that back to council if that's a desire of council to make sure that you're aware fully what we're doing right there

1160
01:29:53,380 --> 01:29:55,160
Yeah, well, yeah

1161
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:56,200
Yeah.

1162
01:29:56,820 --> 01:29:59,980
And to their credit, they have brought that out to us and ask us to be involved in the process.

1163
01:30:00,860 --> 01:30:04,640
So we feel like we have the opportunity at least.

1164
01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:09,340
Yeah. And what a lot of the, where we're keeping the three lanes, but probably going to lose some parking

1165
01:30:09,340 --> 01:30:14,120
most of it's red-curved anyway right now. So there's not going to be really much loss of that parking

1166
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:19,240
between menroking and acquia, because there's already one side of the road, like the Marriott's there,

1167
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:23,940
so a bunch of red-curved anyway. Like, or it's kind of narrowing down by the bank and a bunch of red-curved anyway.

1168
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:28,980
And we got a parking garage right there and stuff like that. So we're not really expecting that that's going to be a really

1169
01:30:28,980 --> 01:30:31,600
significant loss of parking anyway, because most of it's red curve.

1170
01:30:33,990 --> 01:30:34,870
Thank you.

1171
01:30:35,130 --> 01:30:36,750
Yeah, that's some of the bigger major

1172
01:30:36,750 --> 01:30:38,530
CalTrans projects that are going on.

1173
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:45,350
Switching to the next slide, we've got a whole bunch of like these are some of the more

1174
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:47,910
significant projects that are in design right now.

1175
01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:51,390
I don't know if the council members want any updates on this.

1176
01:30:51,470 --> 01:30:53,030
I know what kind of going long on time.

1177
01:30:53,310 --> 01:30:57,010
So I'll probably go through these unless council has questions on some of these.

1178
01:30:57,010 --> 01:30:58,330
A lot of these are pretty.

1179
01:30:58,830 --> 01:31:03,310
uh... significant projects far as the fire station fifty one inclusive park

1180
01:31:03,310 --> 01:31:07,410
like the sequencer street reabs going to affect a lot of the downtown so we'll

1181
01:31:07,410 --> 01:31:10,950
be bringing concepts back to council about that big thing with that's probably

1182
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:11,790
going to be more like

1183
01:31:11,790 --> 01:31:15,410
didn't ball about so it's a lot more walkable and everything downtown and kind of

1184
01:31:15,410 --> 01:31:17,770
improving what we did on main street even now

1185
01:31:17,770 --> 01:31:20,410
so i think council is going to be happy about that one

1186
01:31:20,410 --> 01:31:24,150
cross-reli corridors up in a staff report later that tonight

1187
01:31:24,150 --> 01:31:27,450
uh... north-west quadrant road crossing kind of a big thing for the north-west

1188
01:31:27,970 --> 01:31:31,510
we've kind of already talked about a lot of the short projects that are out there right now.

1189
01:31:32,330 --> 01:31:35,450
So I'll kind of just blow through that a little bit.

1190
01:31:36,550 --> 01:31:37,510
Master plan stuff.

1191
01:31:37,670 --> 01:31:38,610
There's kind of a list there.

1192
01:31:38,990 --> 01:31:42,550
I think council's probably relatively up to speed on that stuff.

1193
01:31:43,250 --> 01:31:45,990
So I'll kind of move through that.

1194
01:31:49,180 --> 01:31:52,820
The grant money short summary is engineering department was super successful.

1195
01:31:52,820 --> 01:31:54,480
We've got a whole bunch of grant money to the team.

1196
01:31:54,480 --> 01:31:59,940
probably like $60 million along with some help from admin and federal earmark stuff and everything so

1197
01:31:59,940 --> 01:32:05,200
super successful like great for the city like a lot of some money coming in from grants so that was

1198
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,680
really great

1199
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:14,640
yeah sorry a little behind there you got right there so there's about 50 51 million from the

1200
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:21,480
ATP program CMAC money was 5.9 million community grants in federal earmark so probably about 2 million

1201
01:32:21,480 --> 01:32:25,880
it's probably like another 2 to 3 million that we got for federal earmark stuff for recharge purposes

1202
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:30,120
out east side regional part that's not on this list. So, engineer, we did really well with

1203
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:38,380
the grants for sure, like on this. Moving forward, like a conference for 2025, back

1204
01:32:38,380 --> 01:32:42,400
filling all the open positions was huge. So, I mean, that took a big effort on both like

1205
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:46,260
Jason, my administration's part to get that done. So, that was really great. And we have a lot of

1206
01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:50,780
light. We got some really good staff too, like right now. So, we got a really, really great group.

1207
01:32:50,780 --> 01:32:55,940
the big thing is just we got to keep them. So probably 135 million dollars worth of construction

1208
01:32:55,940 --> 01:33:00,780
projects started. That's a really big thing we talked about the grants. We've been doing a lot

1209
01:33:00,780 --> 01:33:05,120
of internal stuff as far as standardizing like RFB bid templates and construction management

1210
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:11,040
record keeping that's going to make the department a lot more efficient too. You know the only thing

1211
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,980
that I want to get through this really quick the only thing I'm really going to mention on this I

1212
01:33:14,980 --> 01:33:18,580
don't know I think it's a number you up there private sector people right everybody loves this

1213
01:33:18,580 --> 01:33:21,880
of analysis, right? There's like the big thing that the owner's low on the private sector.

1214
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:28,880
So a couple of things on this that really just want to emphasize on is on weaknesses and

1215
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,900
threats like employee succession planning is something that we're really going to have to like

1216
01:33:32,900 --> 01:33:38,040
work on pretty hard the next three to five years because we have probably only five licensed staff

1217
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:42,780
members right now with engineering licenses like in three of them I'm guessing are probably going to go

1218
01:33:42,780 --> 01:33:48,560
in the next five to seven years, you know. So it's going to be super important that we get some of

1219
01:33:49,580 --> 01:33:55,320
So, I mean, right now, I mean, the joke is it's probably about as hard to find a license

1220
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:56,520
near what the work ethic is.

1221
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:57,600
It is a doctor, you know?

1222
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,740
So, I mean, it's like, yeah, it's quite the challenge, you know?

1223
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:09,880
So, that's a big thing, but one of the things I think that we probably are really going

1224
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:16,240
to focus on is that, you know, the city has a policy of like waiting to hire a new staff

1225
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,400
until the old staff are officially like retired, right?

1226
01:34:19,740 --> 01:34:21,480
Like, and this is the only probably department,

1227
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:23,600
or maybe not, let's say Santa I'm wrong.

1228
01:34:24,540 --> 01:34:26,740
So, okay, so, okay, yeah,

1229
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,260
this department's one of those ones

1230
01:34:29,260 --> 01:34:31,660
where we have to like transfer that institutional knowledge

1231
01:34:31,660 --> 01:34:32,960
before somebody leaves, you know?

1232
01:34:33,380 --> 01:34:36,100
So there may be some risk in hiring like a new staff member

1233
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:38,860
when we don't officially have a staff member retiring,

1234
01:34:39,180 --> 01:34:40,760
but we know they're gonna retire in a year or two,

1235
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,220
just because we have to get that transfer institutional knowledge

1236
01:34:43,220 --> 01:34:45,940
because if we don't, it's a huge loss for the city.

1237
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:56,400
You said that we were losing, we might lose license, engineers in the next five or seven years.

1238
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,800
Is that because of pay or because of retirement?

1239
01:34:59,620 --> 01:34:59,980
For retirement.

1240
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:24,540
It's what it's most likely going to happen. Unless people are going to work a lot longer than I think they're going to work for a quirk, which is possible. Like maybe this enjoys so much. They'll stick around for another ten years and we'll be good. You know, like, but we got to like make sure we plan for that. We do have some really good younger licens younger engineers that are probably going to be taking like engineering license tests. So we've got to make sure there's room for them to grow movement upwards, things like that.

1241
01:35:24,540 --> 01:35:34,340
That is true one of the things that bring Chris is bringing to the table with the junior engineers who have their engineering training their first step towards licensure is

1242
01:35:34,340 --> 01:35:42,440
He's he's hosting training. He provides a lot of insight into how to how to what to study for and how to attack the the full

1243
01:35:42,440 --> 01:35:54,240
Federal engineering license. So it's something that's really nice to see because sometimes I'll get in that EAT and that that mid level associated your level and not not push to go higher up because it kind of comfortable

1244
01:35:54,540 --> 01:35:56,500
Chris is kind of making them a little bit more uncomfortable

1245
01:35:56,500 --> 01:35:57,660
and trying to push them forward.

1246
01:35:58,020 --> 01:35:59,160
They're very good.

1247
01:36:01,390 --> 01:36:03,690
Yeah, and one of the big things is that, like,

1248
01:36:03,710 --> 01:36:05,710
you often understand what the license of one year is

1249
01:36:05,710 --> 01:36:06,970
once they get their engineering license,

1250
01:36:07,090 --> 01:36:09,850
they're just a target for everybody, like for acquisitions.

1251
01:36:10,170 --> 01:36:12,010
I mean, it's like constantly like people.

1252
01:36:12,210 --> 01:36:15,270
Just what happens is that you're addressing your contact info,

1253
01:36:15,470 --> 01:36:17,130
goes on engineering license, board webpage,

1254
01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:18,970
and all the recruiters and everybody in the world

1255
01:36:18,970 --> 01:36:19,990
gets access to that.

1256
01:36:20,510 --> 01:36:22,510
So I mean, it's constant, like, I mean, monthly,

1257
01:36:22,850 --> 01:36:26,230
you get text emails, whatever from recruiters, things like that.

1258
01:36:26,230 --> 01:36:30,330
So one of the big things is you've got to really make sure you've got a good working environment

1259
01:36:30,330 --> 01:36:34,730
for those license engineers, so they stick around, like as one of the biggest things.

1260
01:36:35,930 --> 01:36:38,990
That's all kind of talk about on that spot thing.

1261
01:36:39,090 --> 01:36:46,750
You can kind of look through some of the rest of those things and kind of just think about

1262
01:36:46,750 --> 01:36:51,070
those a little bit, but I guess bringing that to the end of the presentation and everything.

1263
01:36:51,390 --> 01:36:55,150
I guess open to any kind of questions, concerns, anything that Council has.

1264
01:36:55,630 --> 01:36:56,870
Great, thank you so much.

1265
01:36:57,010 --> 01:36:58,190
Councilman, could you get any questions?

1266
01:36:59,010 --> 01:36:59,870
The great presentation.

1267
01:37:00,410 --> 01:37:01,410
I like that.

1268
01:37:01,570 --> 01:37:04,550
You're bringing the private sector mindset to this,

1269
01:37:04,670 --> 01:37:05,930
to see if we become more efficient.

1270
01:37:06,730 --> 01:37:07,130
So a great job.

1271
01:37:07,230 --> 01:37:08,510
I'd like you guys to do it.

1272
01:37:08,670 --> 01:37:09,270
Councilman Nelson?

1273
01:37:10,430 --> 01:37:12,290
You know, a very thorough report and I appreciate it.

1274
01:37:12,310 --> 01:37:13,030
Thank you.

1275
01:37:13,290 --> 01:37:13,790
Councilman Settle?

1276
01:37:14,970 --> 01:37:15,470
No questions.

1277
01:37:16,050 --> 01:37:17,370
Just thank you for what you're all doing.

1278
01:37:17,550 --> 01:37:20,150
I know you said five six years ago.

1279
01:37:20,810 --> 01:37:23,450
There was, you know, lack of staff.

1280
01:37:23,450 --> 01:37:27,570
And I know you've brought that up to speed and so I appreciate what you all are doing.

1281
01:37:27,790 --> 01:37:28,270
And I appreciate it.

1282
01:37:28,270 --> 01:37:29,050
Thank you.

1283
01:37:29,070 --> 01:37:29,870
Vice Mayor Win?

1284
01:37:30,430 --> 01:37:30,750
Yeah.

1285
01:37:30,770 --> 01:37:33,470
Thank you for all you do and keep up the good work.

1286
01:37:36,550 --> 01:37:39,830
So the the the the the large capital projects and street maps.

1287
01:37:40,030 --> 01:37:41,310
I love showing that to the community.

1288
01:37:41,870 --> 01:37:45,670
You know when for the longest time we've been you know told that our

1289
01:37:45,670 --> 01:37:47,370
streets weren't getting repaired properly.

1290
01:37:48,090 --> 01:37:51,290
And so I love showing that to our community to show.

1291
01:37:51,290 --> 01:37:57,010
Like all of our streets on an annual basis are getting touched and that we work in a, you know, one

1292
01:37:57,010 --> 01:38:03,230
Quadrant at a time. And so I appreciate you guys doing that. If you notice our survey that we just had streets

1293
01:38:03,230 --> 01:38:09,950
weren't number one that were they had been for quite a few years. And so we appreciate all the work. Our community loves it.

1294
01:38:09,950 --> 01:38:15,690
Obviously they're not happy during construction. I think afterwards they're very happy with all the work. My only question is

1295
01:38:16,830 --> 01:38:20,310
We have, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars of projects kind of in the pipeline.

1296
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:25,750
Are we, is there any possibility that we're not going to start in those on time

1297
01:38:25,750 --> 01:38:29,450
or losing these potential state or federal funding if we can't get any projects started?

1298
01:38:31,330 --> 01:38:36,890
So, right now, like, the reason you see so many projects going on is because of things like that

1299
01:38:36,890 --> 01:38:41,170
because of federal funding deadlines or some kind of grant deadline, things like that.

1300
01:38:41,170 --> 01:38:59,550
So some of the agencies, you know, where we haven't done a lot of extensions already, we still have a couple of extensions open, but I don't know my great like list that Leslie loves here, this got the 200 projects on it, we pretty thoroughly go through that to make sure that we're doing everything we can to not lose grant money.

1301
01:39:00,470 --> 01:39:09,790
There's just a lot of issues, things that parties have been stopped and started, like that we're kind of working through things that have been missed on some projects we're working through.

1302
01:39:09,790 --> 01:39:15,190
So, right now, I'm not early envisioning us losing like any of the grant money that we've got.

1303
01:39:15,450 --> 01:39:18,890
There's a couple really complicated things, but I'm thinking they're probably going to, we're

1304
01:39:18,890 --> 01:39:23,390
going to get them worked out. So, right now, there's no expectation we're going to be losing grant

1305
01:39:23,390 --> 01:39:28,530
money over any of these things. Wonderful, that's great and I was appreciate it. Okay, let's go ahead and

1306
01:39:28,530 --> 01:39:32,170
open this up to the public. Anybody from the public wishing to speak on this item, please come forward.

1307
01:39:35,170 --> 01:39:37,990
And seeing them, we appreciate it. They're report.

1308
01:39:41,710 --> 01:39:44,510
All right, last item number five will be fiscal year

1309
01:39:44,510 --> 01:39:50,150
in 2006, in 2007, in 2007, in 2007, in 2008, strategic, budget goals.

1310
01:40:35,410 --> 01:40:41,470
Good evening council. Good evening council. My name is Renee Nagel and I'm the finance and

1311
01:40:41,470 --> 01:40:46,890
technology director. And with me, I have Amy Sparingen, who is our financial analyst, who's

1312
01:40:46,890 --> 01:40:55,410
main focus is our budget. Tonight we're here to discuss the 2627-2728 budget discussion, which

1313
01:40:55,410 --> 01:41:03,250
is mainly to start the budget kick off and discuss the calendar and to set some budget strategic

1314
01:41:03,250 --> 01:41:05,490
It goes for this next to your budget.

1315
01:41:09,020 --> 01:41:12,240
Okay, so here is our by annual budget cycle,

1316
01:41:12,660 --> 01:41:15,200
as you can see, we're currently actually

1317
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,040
in our second year of our current budget, 2526.

1318
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:25,300
We are going to be starting our 2627, 2728 budget,

1319
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,240
which will be adopted in June.

1320
01:41:29,860 --> 01:41:31,620
So for a budget document requirements,

1321
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,760
the city uses the GFOA,

1322
01:41:35,020 --> 01:41:37,580
best budgeting practices to create the budget document

1323
01:41:37,580 --> 01:41:42,280
and we have received the distinguished budget award for the past 30 plus years.

1324
01:41:43,020 --> 01:41:46,720
The GFOA requires your document to meet a list of criteria.

1325
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:55,300
The main ones that we focus on are using our document as a strategic budget document, which

1326
01:41:55,300 --> 01:41:59,340
that's what we're here for tonight, establishing our strategic goals and showing how they're

1327
01:41:59,340 --> 01:42:00,780
being met throughout our departments.

1328
01:42:00,780 --> 01:42:07,840
We have department performance measures, city priorities and issues, impact of capital projects

1329
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:13,780
on the operating budget, debt-discussed discussion, long-range financial plans, and citizen

1330
01:42:13,780 --> 01:42:14,320
involvement.

1331
01:42:17,690 --> 01:42:24,810
The budget document consists of current financials, future forecasts, the department's summaries,

1332
01:42:24,990 --> 01:42:30,330
which include department discussion, financials, performance measures, accomplishments,

1333
01:42:30,330 --> 01:42:37,130
and schools. It includes a six year capital plan and it also includes our city financial

1334
01:42:37,130 --> 01:42:43,610
policies which some of them are debt, investments, reserves, and we also have to have

1335
01:42:43,610 --> 01:42:48,470
a budget ordinance. It also includes some other things like our allocated positions and

1336
01:42:48,470 --> 01:42:49,130
salary schedules.

1337
01:42:52,030 --> 01:42:57,110
This is our budget process timeline so kind of our calendar that we're

1338
01:42:57,110 --> 01:43:01,250
for the new budget, 26, 27, and 27, 28.

1339
01:43:02,190 --> 01:43:06,050
We're here tonight, the second one down for our goals,

1340
01:43:06,690 --> 01:43:09,710
and then we will be back to you guys presenting

1341
01:43:10,370 --> 01:43:13,670
at most meetings from February through May.

1342
01:43:14,190 --> 01:43:17,390
We'll start with capital, and then in April, April,

1343
01:43:17,530 --> 01:43:20,470
we'll bring back a midgear, which we focus on just a general fund

1344
01:43:20,470 --> 01:43:22,410
since we're in the middle of creating a budget.

1345
01:43:22,410 --> 01:43:27,610
And then all of that is put together for the adoption engine.

1346
01:43:31,830 --> 01:43:34,490
So for strategic goals, as mentioned earlier,

1347
01:43:35,810 --> 01:43:38,830
they are typically broad and focus on our future.

1348
01:43:39,690 --> 01:43:42,990
The structure is typically up to five categories,

1349
01:43:43,650 --> 01:43:45,910
no more than five points under each category,

1350
01:43:46,810 --> 01:43:49,590
and then we've been using icons for each of our categories.

1351
01:43:49,810 --> 01:43:52,290
This kind of ties everything in throughout our document.

1352
01:43:52,290 --> 01:43:57,790
It shows how each department is using them and how our goals are being met.

1353
01:44:00,860 --> 01:44:02,920
So here are our current strategic goals.

1354
01:44:03,180 --> 01:44:06,720
They're kind of small so we gave you a handout because it's hard to see on there.

1355
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:13,620
But we have quality of life, infrastructure and growth, fiscal strength,

1356
01:44:14,180 --> 01:44:17,760
organizational excellence and economic vitality.

1357
01:44:18,440 --> 01:44:23,800
These are in line with the citizen surveys of FM3 presented to you guys tonight.

1358
01:44:24,440 --> 01:44:32,300
We're here tonight to see if you guys would like to change any of these or if you'd like to just stick with our current ones.

1359
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:36,900
So that's basically our presentations, if you guys would like to discuss these.

1360
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,760
We can go into that.

1361
01:44:40,300 --> 01:44:41,640
Wonderful. Thank you. Nice and quick.

1362
01:44:42,380 --> 01:44:43,920
All right. Councilman, we're noticing any questions.

1363
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:46,020
No, not at all.

1364
01:44:46,020 --> 01:44:47,880
been through this before.

1365
01:44:48,780 --> 01:44:50,160
You can't wait to put you in.

1366
01:44:50,620 --> 01:44:52,620
That was the quickest financial presentation.

1367
01:44:52,820 --> 01:44:53,620
I think we've ever received.

1368
01:44:54,060 --> 01:44:54,380
It's a dollar.

1369
01:44:54,900 --> 01:44:55,660
I know.

1370
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:56,400
I don't know.

1371
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:57,080
A great presentation.

1372
01:44:57,580 --> 01:44:59,480
You guys always do a fantastic job.

1373
01:44:59,480 --> 01:44:59,980
to

1374
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:05,660
Put us in a good financial situation, so I'll be supportive of the staff recommendations for that.

1375
01:45:05,700 --> 01:45:06,320
Councilor Soto?

1376
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:11,420
Yeah, no, thanks for the presentation. Nothing to change here.

1377
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:14,060
Excited for the new budget.

1378
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:15,740
And Vice Mayor Wynn?

1379
01:45:16,700 --> 01:45:23,180
Yeah, I think it looks like you've lined these up with council strategic goals, which I appreciate very much.

1380
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:27,100
And I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

1381
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:30,320
because I know those CAP budgets are always long.

1382
01:45:31,740 --> 01:45:34,100
And usually five to ten times more than many we have.

1383
01:45:34,780 --> 01:45:36,560
So a good luck.

1384
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:38,480
Yeah, thank you.

1385
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:40,800
And mostly for this.

1386
01:45:40,940 --> 01:45:45,080
The fact that you're tying our finances into the goals of the city.

1387
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:45,980
I mean, that's huge.

1388
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,460
Because just two weeks ago, we were talking about potentially putting a new pool.

1389
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,640
And that could be $15 to $30 million.

1390
01:45:52,540 --> 01:45:55,000
So it sounds really great, but we need to make sure we have the money for that.

1391
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:00,860
And so, tying the goals that we've put together as a council with an actual budget, we appreciate

1392
01:46:00,860 --> 01:46:01,480
that.

1393
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:06,460
It makes sure that it keeps everybody on the right path for doing what our citizens want for

1394
01:46:06,460 --> 01:46:06,780
our community.

1395
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,020
So, we really appreciate you guys doing that.

1396
01:46:09,380 --> 01:46:10,660
We'll go ahead and open this up to the public.

1397
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:13,040
Anybody wishing to speak on this item, please come forward.

1398
01:46:15,500 --> 01:46:18,160
I think this really is the quickest budget if meaning ever.

1399
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,700
So, I'll go ahead and entertain that motion if there's not a comments.

1400
01:46:24,710 --> 01:46:25,910
Well, first and second, please vote.

1401
01:46:42,220 --> 01:46:42,480
All right.

1402
01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:46,180
and passes 5-0. Thank you very much. We're going to go ahead and adjourn this portion of the meeting,

1403
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:51,520
and we're going to go into a close session. We invite everyone to come back at the general meeting at 7 o'clock.

1404
01:48:04,820 --> 01:48:09,080
Good evening. Everybody, welcome to the Vice-City Council meeting. We're going to go ahead and call the order.

1405
01:48:09,460 --> 01:48:15,680
This meeting for tonight. We will start off first by doing the Pledge of Allegiance. That will be offered by Council

1406
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:20,560
Mayor Pritchigian. Then we'll be followed by an invocation by Reverend Susie Ward.

1407
01:48:48,340 --> 01:48:57,420
Let us pray, gracious and loving God who has provided us with this beautiful land that we may share with all.

1408
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:04,120
Help us to be mindful of the needs of the many and diverse people who live and work in this community.

1409
01:49:04,980 --> 01:49:12,600
Bless this city with productive jobs, places of eager learning and neighborhoods where all can live and safety.

1410
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:18,080
Protect our first responders from danger as they protect us.

1411
01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:23,960
May we all work in unity defending the liberties of all people so that we might live

1412
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:28,860
as one united people, even though we represent a multitude of languages and heritage.

1413
01:49:30,220 --> 01:49:35,480
Give this spirit of wisdom, charity, and justice to those who have been entrusted with

1414
01:49:35,480 --> 01:49:42,100
the authority of government, that they may serve the city with steadfast purpose, faithfully

1415
01:49:42,100 --> 01:49:44,780
promoting the well-being of all people.

1416
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:49,080
Let their discussions be guided by truth, transparency,

1417
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,100
and steadfast dedication to the public trust.

1418
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:57,600
In times of prosperity, fill our hearts with thankfulness,

1419
01:49:57,840 --> 01:49:59,960
and in days of trouble, let not our-

1420
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:10,140
Court trust in you, fail. All this we ask through the one in eternal creator who brings life to all people in all places and for all time.

1421
01:50:11,620 --> 01:50:14,820
Please forgive me for my absence last month.

1422
01:50:18,510 --> 01:50:19,470
Thank you very much.

1423
01:50:20,590 --> 01:50:29,210
All right, so we will start with public comments. This is a time for the general public to comment on issues within the jurisdiction of the Viceroy City Council.

1424
01:50:29,210 --> 01:50:35,190
Each speaker tonight may speak for up to three minutes during the general comment period on a matter

1425
01:50:35,190 --> 01:50:36,730
that is not on the agenda.

1426
01:50:38,150 --> 01:50:42,450
The public may make one comment for up to three minutes prior to the consideration of the consent

1427
01:50:42,450 --> 01:50:46,270
calendar and immediately before any regular item is heard.

1428
01:50:47,110 --> 01:50:50,250
The council asks you to keep your comments concise and positive.

1429
01:50:50,770 --> 01:50:54,110
Creative criticism presented with appropriate courtesy is welcome.

1430
01:50:54,110 --> 01:50:58,730
Each speaker will be allowed three minutes, and a timer will notify you when your time is expired.

1431
01:50:59,370 --> 01:51:02,930
Please begin your comments by stating and spelling your name and providing your city of residents.

1432
01:51:03,990 --> 01:51:07,070
Anybody at this time wishing to speak during public comment period?

1433
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:21,250
Good evening, Council. You from Bessera, I live in district one by his mayor's wins district.

1434
01:51:21,910 --> 01:51:27,010
I just wanted to comment and say that the event on Saturday was a huge success.

1435
01:51:27,010 --> 01:51:32,170
They had a quadriple, the amount of people in the last 10 years that they have had it.

1436
01:51:32,170 --> 01:51:36,030
It was nice seeing a military leader there for the proclamation.

1437
01:51:36,750 --> 01:51:43,410
The chamber has worked very hard and nothing but positive comments were said with the displays

1438
01:51:43,410 --> 01:51:46,310
that were there so that's great to hear.

1439
01:51:47,810 --> 01:51:52,750
Hopefully it won't be the last, hopefully it'll just grow into a very event and have more involvement

1440
01:51:52,750 --> 01:52:00,770
from other organizations like the Bicylic Chamber and the City. And again, I wanted to say also

1441
01:52:00,770 --> 01:52:07,470
the event prior to the Chamber also was a success. They had a really nice display of the Mexican

1442
01:52:07,470 --> 01:52:12,430
League, worked hard around that event. So I just want to say thank you guys for having these events

1443
01:52:12,430 --> 01:52:18,490
and showing the diversity in the city and hope we have more to come. Thank you.

1444
01:52:28,430 --> 01:52:30,130
Hi, my name is Kathy Falkner.

1445
01:52:30,130 --> 01:52:36,670
I live here in Viseia, and something recently came up that I was concerned about, what are

1446
01:52:36,670 --> 01:52:42,970
we doing for Veterans Day event, wonderful parade in Port of Vill, but what about Viseia,

1447
01:52:43,310 --> 01:52:48,030
search for the city, search for everything, and came across something I think is really phenomenal.

1448
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:57,630
Amy King, the curator at the Monies Grove Park in the museum, has dedicated a lot of time

1449
01:52:57,630 --> 01:53:01,050
to reach out to all of the schools within the

1450
01:53:01,050 --> 01:53:04,830
of I.C. unified school district and has brought up

1451
01:53:05,330 --> 01:53:08,590
high school students with essays, there will be over

1452
01:53:08,590 --> 01:53:13,970
2,000 puppies hanging from the seas ceiling in the museum

1453
01:53:13,970 --> 01:53:18,290
with a note from elementary students attached to each one.

1454
01:53:18,710 --> 01:53:22,270
I was so overwhelmed by what she was doing, but I'm with another group

1455
01:53:22,270 --> 01:53:26,070
called with Viseia and our goal was to try and find ways

1456
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:29,170
where we could provide food and services for veterans.

1457
01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:31,590
We know sometimes they're in need.

1458
01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:36,630
And so we're working on a table for contributions of food.

1459
01:53:37,210 --> 01:53:42,830
Gift cards that are $5 money, even gift card from a grocery store,

1460
01:53:43,050 --> 01:53:49,450
just something to give to the VFM post 1864 here locally

1461
01:53:49,450 --> 01:53:52,170
and by say, this is going to be held.

1462
01:53:52,170 --> 01:54:00,990
This Veterans Day celebration, November 9th, Sunday at 11 o'clock, and she assumes it's only

1463
01:54:00,990 --> 01:54:07,130
going to be lasting an hour. There'll be music, poetry, veterans speaking. The program will be

1464
01:54:07,130 --> 01:54:12,950
one hour, but then she welcomes everybody to go into the new exhibit. So I hope that people will be

1465
01:54:12,950 --> 01:54:17,950
able to attend that. I think it's a phenomenal thing, and I think we need more things like this

1466
01:54:17,950 --> 01:54:23,590
happening and by say for veterans day honoring those who have served us. Thank you.

1467
01:54:30,530 --> 01:54:37,570
My name is Isaac Herrera and I'm a resident of Iselia. One with regard to the EBT snap

1468
01:54:37,570 --> 01:54:45,050
situation, this is for the city and for the whole country, I think it would be well advised to

1469
01:54:45,050 --> 01:54:52,630
maybe tie it to some form of civic engagement. Anybody that receives those benefits might get more involved

1470
01:54:52,630 --> 01:54:59,970
in their communities and have more feedback through that with regard to the loge.

1471
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:08,900
Go situation. I had read on the Vice Helio Delta Times that you paid 150,000 to a marketing firm for a

1472
01:55:08,900 --> 01:55:20,700
logo that's not even in use. And then you paid someone 1,500 for that logo. So that was something

1473
01:55:20,700 --> 01:55:26,840
that I got brought up because I'm sort of an investigative journalist. But you know, you do

1474
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:31,980
to wonder about priorities on that, so I'll leave it at that.

1475
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:37,700
But the other issue, there's a court case going on.

1476
01:55:37,820 --> 01:55:47,100
Our president is Scottish right, free-mason, Donald Trump, 33 degree, and the question of

1477
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:50,500
is free-masonry overly represented in the country.

1478
01:55:51,660 --> 01:55:59,220
JFK famously said, we do not support secret outs or secret proceedings in the country.

1479
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:10,660
So there is a question of our secret oaths in conflict with your allegiance to the Constitution.

1480
01:56:11,300 --> 01:56:14,840
So that is something that might make its way to the Supreme Court at some point.

1481
01:56:15,140 --> 01:56:18,840
And I do know that there's a lodge in pretty much every city.

1482
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:26,660
So I'll leave that there and then finally I have a company that I recently moved from

1483
01:56:26,660 --> 01:56:32,300
Anaheim and there's a company that I'm working with that we are trying to provide super

1484
01:56:32,300 --> 01:56:40,840
Wi-Fi to municipalities and you can offer free internet to the entire community and I would

1485
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:47,020
like to try to reach out to anybody that might be involved in exploring that idea.

1486
01:56:47,020 --> 01:56:56,080
you could have a smart city upgrade by Celia and have all kinds of new capabilities with

1487
01:56:56,080 --> 01:57:02,600
citizenry and public engagement and things like that. So if I could maybe speak

1488
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:06,040
with somebody after that would be great. Thank you.

1489
01:57:12,980 --> 01:57:18,180
And that's all go fast and I'll need to read my size day focused. My name is Mary Jennings.

1490
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:23,660
I'm in the city of Iselia. Good evening. I'm Mary Jennings, the executive director of

1491
01:57:23,660 --> 01:57:25,540
of ISIL Emergency Council.

1492
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:30,180
VEC is the Food Pantry Family Assistance Center in ISIL.

1493
01:57:30,860 --> 01:57:34,260
We have been serving our community for over 93 years,

1494
01:57:34,500 --> 01:57:37,800
focusing on the underserved in the housed community.

1495
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:41,360
Located in the heart of the Oval Park area

1496
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:44,220
we are within walking distance of the Bethlehem Center,

1497
01:57:44,460 --> 01:57:46,620
the Rescue Mission, the Navigation Center,

1498
01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:48,260
and the Salvation Center,

1499
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,400
all of which served the unhoused population.

1500
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:55,840
VEC is unique in that we focus on the household unit.

1501
01:57:56,300 --> 01:57:59,700
Those really focusing on those households with minor children.

1502
01:58:00,820 --> 01:58:07,020
Our primary focus is on providing a food pantry where we typically serve around 1,200 households

1503
01:58:07,020 --> 01:58:09,860
reaching about 4,000 individuals each month.

1504
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:13,620
Those numbers are important because I'll let you know what we serve last month.

1505
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:18,520
We also are the local diaper bag providing diapers and other baby products.

1506
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,700
We provide utility and rental assistance through our thrift store.

1507
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:26,200
We offer vouchers that allow families to shop for closing and help those items that no

1508
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:26,620
charge.

1509
01:58:27,260 --> 01:58:33,240
Our typical clients include single parents, multiple family homes where mom, dad, grandma's,

1510
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:35,620
aunts, uncles and kids all live under one household.

1511
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:42,360
Seniors, many of whom are raising their grandchildren, veterans, and disabled living on a fixed income.

1512
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:48,740
45% of our clients have at least one wage earner in the household, but still must depend

1513
01:58:48,740 --> 01:58:51,600
on WIC and SNAP to get by each month.

1514
01:58:52,140 --> 01:58:57,080
Many of our working clients are in the service and agricultural industries earning minimum

1515
01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:03,260
wage or just slightly above, often having to choose between buying food or putting gas in

1516
01:59:03,260 --> 01:59:04,480
their car to get to work.

1517
01:59:05,100 --> 01:59:10,740
With the current uncertainty around the SNAP program, we have seen our food request increase

1518
01:59:10,740 --> 01:59:20,700
In October, we served over 1,750 households, reaching 5,800 individuals, and increase

1519
01:59:20,700 --> 01:59:26,560
of over 15% from the previous October, with much of our growth occurring in the last ten

1520
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:31,660
days, which when was becoming very public, that snap was not going to happen for the month

1521
01:59:31,660 --> 01:59:32,260
of November.

1522
01:59:32,820 --> 01:59:37,800
As we enter November, families are stressed not only about putting food on their tables, but

1523
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:42,180
Also about the Thanksgiving holiday, a time when traditions have families gathered around their

1524
01:59:42,180 --> 01:59:45,040
tables to share a meal with family and friends.

1525
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:51,700
The EAC utilizes both food link to their county as the primary USDA provider and the central

1526
01:59:51,700 --> 01:59:55,480
California food bank where we can buy food for pennies per pound.

1527
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:59,720
However, with the increase in clients served, and no absolute confidence.

1528
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,840
The crisis will be over any time soon, even the food banks are struggling and are feeling the crunch and programs and donations, resulting in less products for our pantry.

1529
02:00:10,460 --> 02:00:16,800
This means that VECA has to purchase fruits, vegetables, dairy, and a good source of protein.

1530
02:00:18,180 --> 02:00:21,720
This really puts a pinch on a tight budget. This week alone.

1531
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:23,400
Thank you, ma'am. Your time's expired.

1532
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:29,120
Thank you. You can pass it right here.

1533
02:00:38,210 --> 02:00:40,710
I'm Christine Murphy. I'm from Vesalia.

1534
02:00:43,750 --> 02:00:50,510
The protests are going on on a moody boulevard. Okay, so I had my phone and I sat there with them.

1535
02:00:50,730 --> 02:00:56,890
I was able to sit there with them until my gatter ran out and then my phone went dead.

1536
02:00:56,890 --> 02:01:16,630
But the other day when my bike broke down, I couldn't fix it because I kept being told that I couldn't be there, I was trying to fix my bike, right there on the side of the road, right there on the front of the Chevrolet, no, I couldn't fix my bike, my bike was broke, so I took it to the trail, I wasn't there 10 minutes, I said I couldn't be there, I intend to protest,

1537
02:01:20,820 --> 02:01:28,000
I intend to protest, I intend to protest where they've been protesting and I intend to not stop.

1538
02:01:31,850 --> 02:01:40,910
I'm just saying thank you oh what else I mean I I should be able to do that if I'm

1539
02:01:40,910 --> 02:01:46,090
peaceful and it's just me right instead of like all those people out there right

1540
02:01:47,330 --> 02:01:48,550
Am I right

1541
02:01:50,950 --> 02:01:52,510
or what they can and I can't

1542
02:01:53,870 --> 02:01:59,270
Because I'd actually applied there's a petition application to do that I did it 20 years ago

1543
02:02:00,350 --> 02:02:05,800
You know and I was denied I end him to protest

1544
02:02:09,350 --> 02:02:14,420
But with signs, just letting you know,

1545
02:02:28,030 --> 02:02:30,990
may your vice mayor, and members of the council, I

1546
02:02:30,990 --> 02:02:37,890
reenlap an vice-alien, the grift, the graft, the grope, and not always in that order.

1547
02:02:38,510 --> 02:02:43,590
As you know, the emoluments clauses are two constitutional provisions that prevent federal

1548
02:02:43,590 --> 02:02:48,830
office holders from accepting gifts, payments, or other benefits from foreign or domestic

1549
02:02:48,830 --> 02:02:51,990
governments, obviously because it leads to corruption.

1550
02:02:53,130 --> 02:02:57,650
In less than one year since Trump was elected president, he and his family of a mass

1551
02:02:57,650 --> 02:03:01,630
more than $1.8 billion in cash in gifts.

1552
02:03:02,090 --> 02:03:08,470
For every American, however, for the average American, who are more inflation, tariffs, firings,

1553
02:03:08,730 --> 02:03:13,670
department closures, massive service and health care cuts, the use of military against

1554
02:03:13,670 --> 02:03:20,490
on people and over the tap surveillance. A million and a half federal employees are going without pay.

1555
02:03:21,030 --> 02:03:25,630
The unemployed are standing in lines waiting for arrangements for themselves and their children.

1556
02:03:26,210 --> 02:03:29,590
Thousands can no longer pay their mortgages or their rent.

1557
02:03:30,210 --> 02:03:34,210
On the eve of the termination of snap benefits on Halloween,

1558
02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:38,690
Trump throws a flashy, trashy, gas-be party at Moralago,

1559
02:03:38,690 --> 02:03:44,310
while back in D.C. the People's House is being demolished and turned into a

1560
02:03:44,310 --> 02:03:49,550
ballroom that has more gold per square inch than his own personal toilet.

1561
02:03:50,430 --> 02:03:56,530
Maybe the corporate sponsors of the Appariety Display can spare a few dollars each

1562
02:03:56,530 --> 02:03:57,650
defeat the hungry.

1563
02:03:58,230 --> 02:04:03,450
In the meantime, Vice President Vance, self-hating because of his own childhood poverty,

1564
02:04:03,450 --> 02:04:09,110
Wang's finger is at the poor, with the warning there will be more suffering.

1565
02:04:10,150 --> 02:04:15,170
About Venezuela, before this year, the Coast Guard, accompanied by the Navy,

1566
02:04:15,610 --> 02:04:22,410
would interdict and boards suspected vessels, seasoned cargo, and arrest the crews

1567
02:04:22,410 --> 02:04:24,230
and prepare them for prosecution.

1568
02:04:25,050 --> 02:04:29,570
They would not use legal force, but they wouldn't be sufficient,

1569
02:04:29,570 --> 02:04:32,410
narcissistic supply for the narcissist.

1570
02:04:32,630 --> 02:04:36,110
He needs to blow up every fishing boat he can get his hands on.

1571
02:04:38,450 --> 02:04:41,650
Because it's in his personal enemy territory.

1572
02:04:42,570 --> 02:04:46,390
Act first, ask later, no, don't ask at all.

1573
02:04:46,770 --> 02:04:51,110
Not only is that a violation of several international laws,

1574
02:04:51,410 --> 02:04:54,850
but is a task not granted to the executive office.

1575
02:04:55,550 --> 02:04:58,210
No need to cry for Argentina, however,

1576
02:04:58,210 --> 02:04:59,930
because Trump wants to spin.

1577
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:09,660
The 40 million of our tax dollars to bail out, the only country she seems to like, rather than want to seize, and they have want to be dictated.

1578
02:05:10,540 --> 02:05:22,120
As former President Obama said last weekend, and I call him my President for life, it's been like Halloween every day this year, except its all tricks and no treats.

1579
02:05:23,140 --> 02:05:23,780
Thank you.

1580
02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:38,780
I'm a Sean Kiner out of Icelia.

1581
02:05:39,660 --> 02:05:46,900
I was more so wondering if the city of Icelia is playing on partnering with the Icelia

1582
02:05:46,900 --> 02:05:53,280
emergency aid because I know that they are not part or they're not affiliated with any sort

1583
02:05:54,060 --> 02:06:00,980
of outside entity besides just being of non-profit for Icelia so they're not affiliated

1584
02:06:00,980 --> 02:06:08,200
is any like faith based. I was wondering if the city was going to be doing a big push particularly

1585
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:18,530
with that organization because of because of city council members that were at the Trump

1586
02:06:18,530 --> 02:06:27,070
inauguration that that may be who's the council to really put a big push into that to show

1587
02:06:27,070 --> 02:06:33,670
support with the community, and for the fact that we don't have SNAP anymore, thank you

1588
02:06:33,670 --> 02:06:34,470
that was all.

1589
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:45,600
Okay, anybody else wanted to speak during public comment?

1590
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:51,740
Okay, we'll go ahead and close public comments now, and we're going to skip items of interest

1591
02:06:51,740 --> 02:06:54,860
tonight, and we'll go on to the consent calendar.

1592
02:06:56,380 --> 02:06:59,560
Consent calendar items are considered routine, we'll be enacted in one motion.

1593
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:04,680
This is the time for members of the public to provide public comments on an item, on

1594
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:16,280
consent calendar, comments will not be taken individually by the public. If an item is pulled by a council member, each speaker will be allowed up to three minutes and a timer will notify you when your time is expired.

1595
02:07:16,900 --> 02:07:24,000
Please be in your comments by stating and spelling your name and providing your city of residents. Anybody here wishing to speak on an item that's on the consent calendar.

1596
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:29,780
Mayer, mayer, mayer, you can finish your comment here, right? Is that okay if you were to finish your comment?

1597
02:07:32,050 --> 02:07:34,170
Since it has to do with an item on the consent calendar?

1598
02:07:38,630 --> 02:07:42,270
So this is just item consent calendar items, even we should not speak on this.

1599
02:07:46,980 --> 02:07:50,620
Good evening, mayer, and council members. My name is Maria Guillain.

1600
02:07:51,060 --> 02:07:54,920
That's G-U-I-L-L-E-N-X-N over the E.

1601
02:07:55,540 --> 02:07:56,480
I live in Viceria.

1602
02:07:56,480 --> 02:08:01,760
I'd like to address item number 13 on the consent calendar.

1603
02:08:03,140 --> 02:08:08,800
Let me first applaud Council Member Emmanuel Soktho for having the leadership and compassion

1604
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:15,760
to raise this issue, especially in light of the fact that there may be pushback since it may

1605
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:18,620
be addressing a national or federal issue.

1606
02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:26,380
Personally, I don't believe there's anyone in this room that believes we are not being negative

1607
02:08:26,380 --> 02:08:29,460
impact by what is happening at the national level.

1608
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:36,440
To not address this issue is irresponsible at best and cowardly at worse.

1609
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:39,920
I prepared a different format for my testimony.

1610
02:08:40,860 --> 02:08:43,820
I'd like to create high coup poems as a hobby.

1611
02:08:44,740 --> 02:08:49,320
I follow a strict pattern of using three lines with the first line having five syllables,

1612
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:53,360
the second, seven syllables, and the third having five.

1613
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:57,600
This is what I created to address the topic.

1614
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:04,680
Hunger pains make noise without care for your vote.

1615
02:09:05,460 --> 02:09:06,560
Was it red or blue?

1616
02:09:08,260 --> 02:09:09,380
Well, work for food.

1617
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:15,580
I do work, but wages then, so take pound of flesh.

1618
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:18,860
I picked the fresh fruit.

1619
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:21,260
Jose arranges them at store.

1620
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:23,260
My cupboards are bare.

1621
02:09:24,340 --> 02:09:31,200
New life is precious, they say baby needs new shoes, but first she needs milk.

1622
02:09:32,660 --> 02:09:37,960
With holding dollars to feed those in need is wrong, my neighbor's agree.

1623
02:09:39,460 --> 02:09:46,500
As Tupac once shared, there's money for war, somehow, none to feed the poor.

1624
02:09:47,620 --> 02:09:53,760
Come to our table for warm meal, served with side of human dignity.

1625
02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:59,740
Compassion is gift, you gladly give from the heart.

1626
02:10:00,180 --> 02:10:09,640
That doesn't keep score. I urge the council to pass this item that a show our concern and commitment to providing a safety net for our residents.

1627
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:20,220
That coupled with the amazing resiliency we see in the community and those that are setting up mutual aid resources will bring us a sense of peace in our city.

1628
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:35,900
Michelle Kenner out of very Celia.

1629
02:10:36,420 --> 02:10:41,220
Sorry, I didn't know that I didn't read number 13 on the items

1630
02:10:41,220 --> 02:10:41,920
of interest.

1631
02:10:42,180 --> 02:10:43,320
I apologize about that.

1632
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:45,460
I'm actually here for number 12.

1633
02:10:46,500 --> 02:10:49,240
Conceration of the future of the item to redesign a portion

1634
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:50,280
of the Bikling configurations.

1635
02:10:52,940 --> 02:10:56,380
I am here to see if there's any way

1636
02:10:56,380 --> 02:10:58,020
maybe I could give a little bit input

1637
02:10:58,020 --> 02:10:59,880
because it is office-lary avenue.

1638
02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:01,640
And it's the major sheet rehabilitation.

1639
02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:05,900
And I know that we have a lot of schools right there along with COS as well.

1640
02:11:06,820 --> 02:11:10,120
So, let's try to make you aware that I am interested in that.

1641
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:20,000
And I know that there was a lot of discourse online about the impact of bicycles with the traffic pattern.

1642
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:28,280
So, I have pulled examples of what they do in other cities around the state of California.

1643
02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:33,400
So I have those examples, if anybody maybe wants to look at them and maybe we can come up to something.

1644
02:11:34,500 --> 02:11:40,840
That would be beneficial to the bicyclists along with the vehicles.

1645
02:11:41,220 --> 02:11:42,000
Thank you.

1646
02:11:49,530 --> 02:11:50,990
Hi, my name is Kathy Faulkner.

1647
02:11:51,070 --> 02:11:55,590
I live here in VISA and in reference to number eight the insurance broker service.

1648
02:11:56,230 --> 02:12:02,730
You're working on trying to connect with the needs of our community for a long period of time and the insurance needed.

1649
02:12:02,730 --> 02:12:09,210
But I'd like to address the climate change and the impact of economic losses in the billions.

1650
02:12:10,570 --> 02:12:16,310
Our area, our air quality has been rated in F by the American Lung Association.

1651
02:12:16,890 --> 02:12:19,230
And it has to do with the rising heat.

1652
02:12:19,810 --> 02:12:28,390
We're on the 65% tile as the very highest ranking in the nation for the 65% higher than most.

1653
02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:33,070
ranked higher at over the average number of days that are 100 plus.

1654
02:12:33,570 --> 02:12:35,310
We require cooling centers.

1655
02:12:35,570 --> 02:12:38,950
We project the number of hotter days per year will increase.

1656
02:12:39,730 --> 02:12:44,650
Higher levels of particulate matter are also part of the ozone production.

1657
02:12:45,170 --> 02:12:47,910
Agriculture, particular proximity to water,

1658
02:12:48,350 --> 02:12:50,570
which item are you speaking on?

1659
02:12:50,770 --> 02:12:53,710
Item number eight, the insurance broker service.

1660
02:12:53,870 --> 02:12:55,330
That's employee insurance.

1661
02:12:55,950 --> 02:12:59,010
Is it just the employee? I thought it was all

1662
02:13:05,700 --> 02:13:11,800
okay, so it's not overall for the city's insurance policy to protect it from

1663
02:13:14,060 --> 02:13:17,640
I just want to make sure that's one that I don't mean you're talking about so, okay?

1664
02:13:18,180 --> 02:13:22,000
No, no, I wasn't thinking in terms of health insurance.

1665
02:13:23,580 --> 02:13:31,900
Yeah, no, just an overall insurance policy for the city to protect it against any sort of negative reactions or impact

1666
02:13:31,900 --> 02:13:36,680
upon our city as it results to negligence or anything else.

1667
02:13:37,020 --> 02:13:38,940
So if I'm wrong, let me know.

1668
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:40,700
No, it's not.

1669
02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:44,360
Anyway,

1670
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:50,520
there's a lot going on and we really need to be aware.

1671
02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:53,660
I know risk management has probably done a lot as far as

1672
02:13:53,660 --> 02:13:56,040
whether the potentials for drought, for water loss,

1673
02:13:56,580 --> 02:14:00,040
but there is so much coming up in the next 10 years

1674
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:01,160
that it's really critical.

1675
02:14:01,540 --> 02:14:02,380
We prepare ourselves.

1676
02:14:02,980 --> 02:14:03,700
Thank you.

1677
02:14:06,450 --> 02:14:11,210
Anybody else want to speak? Also, just like you know, it sounds like there are some people that are wanting to speak on the

1678
02:14:11,210 --> 02:14:20,090
Tolerary Avenue Project. So if you did want to speak on the item, this is your time to speak. If we do pull the item later, this will be the only time where people will be allowed to speak.

1679
02:14:25,010 --> 02:14:30,890
Hello, my name is Mark Walll. I'm a city of Iselia, a daughter block and a half from Tolerary Avenue.

1680
02:14:31,650 --> 02:14:35,490
And I'm also president of the Southern Sierra Cycle's bicycle club.

1681
02:14:35,490 --> 02:14:41,010
Although most of our members live in Bicellia, the Bicycle Club represents cyclists throughout

1682
02:14:41,010 --> 02:14:48,730
Hillary County, we currently have 295 members, including 106 families memberships, which

1683
02:14:48,730 --> 02:14:50,130
may include more people.

1684
02:14:50,950 --> 02:14:55,290
Hesta C is affiliated with the League of American Bicycles, seven of our members, including

1685
02:14:55,290 --> 02:14:58,710
five board members, are leagues certified cycling instructors.

1686
02:14:58,710 --> 02:14:59,970
This means...

1687
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:07,740
Teams have had extensive training in bicycle safety and are committed to bicycle safety wherever we are.

1688
02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:14,740
Stycling is an affordable and healthy recreation and transportation. SSC strongly support city efforts

1689
02:15:14,740 --> 02:15:25,840
to build walking and cycling infrastructure for all ages. This policy helps to keep older by

1690
02:15:25,840 --> 02:15:32,100
for families and children and makes walking or cycling to and from school safe and

1691
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:38,740
feasible. This in turn offers an opportunity to end traffic jams at schools and

1692
02:15:38,740 --> 02:15:43,800
reduce overall traffic on our streets. I'm here tonight because Tulleri Avenue

1693
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:49,040
offers a unique opportunity. Tulleri Avenue is a two-lane collector street

1694
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:53,760
intended to move traffic from residential streets to neighborhood facilities

1695
02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:58,640
I could sell elementary schools and then on beyond to arterial streets generally.

1696
02:15:59,900 --> 02:16:04,940
There are nine schools by my count and I was told another, I missed one, there's ten by

1697
02:16:04,940 --> 02:16:08,580
my count, a long-tolerary oven in the project area.

1698
02:16:10,220 --> 02:16:14,240
Mostly elementary schools but also COS, Mount Whitney, and to visit era.

1699
02:16:16,820 --> 02:16:22,720
The traffic calming design of the protected bike lanes will reduce traffic speed, noise

1700
02:16:22,720 --> 02:16:25,200
and accidents resulting in a better quality of life

1701
02:16:25,200 --> 02:16:27,460
for nearby residents and road users.

1702
02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:32,020
The design provides a five mile long cross-town corridor

1703
02:16:32,020 --> 02:16:35,140
that supports greater bicycle network continuity

1704
02:16:35,140 --> 02:16:36,380
and connectivity.

1705
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:41,440
Placing bike lanes between the sidewalk and park cars

1706
02:16:42,080 --> 02:16:44,840
protects pedestrians and cyclists

1707
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:47,720
while preserving some unstreet parking.

1708
02:16:48,460 --> 02:16:51,440
It is the only design scheme that protects cyclists

1709
02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:53,740
and preserves some parking.

1710
02:16:55,700 --> 02:16:58,720
Education and outreach is needed.

1711
02:16:59,480 --> 02:17:02,200
Obviously, this is new to the residents and the community.

1712
02:17:03,140 --> 02:17:08,060
And SSC would welcome the opportunity to assist with a transportation, or I'm in

1713
02:17:08,060 --> 02:17:13,560
sorry, but the transition, by offering cycling education programs at schools, boys and

1714
02:17:13,560 --> 02:17:15,680
girls, clubs, churches and other locations.

1715
02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:23,720
We can also assist with the city would like with a door door information campaign specific to each residence and names or questions.

1716
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:27,980
The bottom line is increasing traffic speed is made.

1717
02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:30,120
Thank you, sir.

1718
02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:31,640
Appreciate your comments.

1719
02:17:41,690 --> 02:17:42,510
Anybody else?

1720
02:17:43,510 --> 02:17:45,310
If you want to speak, come on up, madam.

1721
02:17:45,710 --> 02:17:49,570
If you'd like to speak, please go ahead and form a line so we can gauge how many people are going to be speaking.

1722
02:17:53,480 --> 02:18:00,180
Hello, my name is Laura Anderson, L-A-E-R-A-N-D-E-R-S-O-N. I'm a resident here in Baisalia.

1723
02:18:00,960 --> 02:18:04,640
And I just wanted to speak on the recent bike lane changes tutorial avenue.

1724
02:18:06,360 --> 02:18:10,400
I used the bike lane on Baisalia avenue to go back and forth to work in downtown Baisalia.

1725
02:18:11,340 --> 02:18:14,360
I really appreciate having a protected bike lane available on my route.

1726
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:18,160
It's made me choose to go down that street as opposed to other streets.

1727
02:18:18,780 --> 02:18:21,800
I feel safest when I'm writing on that street.

1728
02:18:22,340 --> 02:18:27,420
Having that bike lane available has increased how frequently I write back and forth to work as well.

1729
02:18:27,880 --> 02:18:30,980
It has also changed how frequently I write with my daughter.

1730
02:18:31,500 --> 02:18:37,280
She's younger, and that's one of the few streets where I feel like she's safe and protected from the traffic.

1731
02:18:38,360 --> 02:18:42,180
I really hope that I say I continue to invest in bike friendly infrastructure,

1732
02:18:42,860 --> 02:18:46,700
and I look forward to see what improvements are made to the city's bike lanes moving forward.

1733
02:18:46,700 --> 02:18:47,880
Thank you.

1734
02:18:57,080 --> 02:18:57,480
Do you hear?

1735
02:18:57,820 --> 02:18:59,300
Just your name and city residents.

1736
02:19:00,020 --> 02:19:03,500
I'm Arvella, France, and I'm a resident of Isalia.

1737
02:19:05,820 --> 02:19:11,180
I first noticed the problem on Tullary Avenue with Gateway Church.

1738
02:19:11,900 --> 02:19:15,520
They always park their cars along the highway.

1739
02:19:16,180 --> 02:19:20,420
So now they're limited to being able to do that.

1740
02:19:20,420 --> 02:19:28,360
I don't know actually whether I'm pro or against the painting and the symbols that they're

1741
02:19:28,360 --> 02:19:29,980
putting on these streets.

1742
02:19:31,620 --> 02:19:37,800
So it's kind of confusing to some who haven't familiar with this.

1743
02:19:38,780 --> 02:19:42,620
Also I was wondering how long can a car be parked?

1744
02:19:43,960 --> 02:19:48,880
How can it, let's see, what size the auto is going to be parked?

1745
02:19:48,880 --> 02:19:52,380
We'll just bring the cost of our homes down.

1746
02:19:53,220 --> 02:19:54,660
It's already a busy street.

1747
02:19:55,860 --> 02:19:59,980
Some families have teenagers with multiple cars and some...

1748
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:06,820
Some people on our street rent rooms, so they need to have a place to park their cars.

1749
02:20:07,860 --> 02:20:14,900
It isn't a problem for me, because I have a large area of parking for cars.

1750
02:20:18,280 --> 02:20:24,560
But one thing I know that it will do is diminish traffic, because

1751
02:20:24,560 --> 02:20:33,380
Right now we have a lot of traffic until every avenue and there are multiple accidents happening.

1752
02:20:36,360 --> 02:20:47,060
So I was just wondering if they would also be giving parking tickets for people if they park too long on the street.

1753
02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:50,780
And can you park a truck on the street?

1754
02:20:55,800 --> 02:21:02,940
So, I just don't even know what some of the symbols are that they have on the street.

1755
02:21:03,580 --> 02:21:09,560
So, I notice that there are people parking down by divicidero junior high.

1756
02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:15,900
There is parking people are doing that, and it seems like it's fine.

1757
02:21:15,900 --> 02:21:23,360
When I go by, but there's not much space if you're driving a larger truck.

1758
02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:28,140
So I just wonder about accidents and the safety.

1759
02:21:30,220 --> 02:21:40,680
So I know one thing about I am in favor of the red curves because I have, by my home,

1760
02:21:40,680 --> 02:21:45,820
And there's someone who parked a car on the street for over two years.

1761
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:52,840
And then another person down the street had their car parked there for almost the same amount

1762
02:21:52,840 --> 02:21:53,540
of time.

1763
02:21:53,660 --> 02:21:57,340
There's grass growing underneath it so I don't know.

1764
02:21:57,920 --> 02:21:59,140
I did call the city.

1765
02:21:59,660 --> 02:22:04,880
They did move his truck but he moved it up in front of his own home.

1766
02:22:07,350 --> 02:22:07,870
Thank you, man.

1767
02:22:07,910 --> 02:22:08,810
Appreciate your comments.

1768
02:22:19,400 --> 02:22:26,940
I'm a Lonnie Miller, a resident of I saw, yeah, I live a couple walks away from Clara Avenue and wrote it on a regular basis and tell her tired a couple of years ago.

1769
02:22:27,300 --> 02:22:33,140
That was my commute route and it's much safer now riding it when I do ride it than I did then thanks to the traffic calming.

1770
02:22:33,580 --> 02:22:41,840
The idea that if I'm hit by a car going 20 miles in our faster line, my chance of dying is dramatically higher than a car going slower.

1771
02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:48,060
So anything that we can do to keep cars and cyclists and pedestrians away from each other is what we need to do.

1772
02:22:48,060 --> 02:22:49,460
It's much safer for all involved.

1773
02:22:50,180 --> 02:22:50,960
Thank you.

1774
02:22:58,760 --> 02:23:03,020
Okay, we're going to go ahead and close public comments now and

1775
02:23:03,020 --> 02:23:05,000
Council member,

1776
02:23:06,040 --> 02:23:08,140
Nelson and the items you'd like to pull from consent calendar.

1777
02:23:08,780 --> 02:23:09,460
I'd have a 13.

1778
02:23:10,460 --> 02:23:12,820
Council member put your game in the items you'd like to pull.

1779
02:23:20,030 --> 02:23:21,530
I don't know why I'm 12 and 13.

1780
02:23:23,050 --> 02:23:24,450
Okay, vice mayor.

1781
02:23:24,450 --> 02:23:26,450
when you need items you want to pull?

1782
02:23:27,250 --> 02:23:28,450
Item number two.

1783
02:23:31,140 --> 02:23:32,240
And council member.

1784
02:23:33,160 --> 02:23:34,240
So any items you want to pull?

1785
02:23:34,660 --> 02:23:35,460
No, I don't think you.

1786
02:23:35,820 --> 02:23:38,200
Okay, and I have no items to pull.

1787
02:23:38,580 --> 02:23:41,120
So I will entertain a motion for the remainder of the calendar.

1788
02:23:41,200 --> 02:23:41,780
I'm making motion.

1789
02:23:41,980 --> 02:23:43,360
Do you accept a balance to the consent calendar?

1790
02:23:43,560 --> 02:23:43,960
I'll second.

1791
02:23:44,440 --> 02:23:46,020
I'm going to person second please vote.

1792
02:23:55,300 --> 02:23:57,880
Okay, the remainder of the consent calendar passes five zero.

1793
02:23:58,340 --> 02:24:01,840
I'll start off with item or consent calendar item number two please.

1794
02:24:02,500 --> 02:24:05,780
did you want a presentation or did you just have a question on that specific?

1795
02:24:06,980 --> 02:24:14,840
I just, I wanted to publicly thank the animal services department and also bring, is Candace here today?

1796
02:24:16,240 --> 02:24:23,540
Oh, could you come up and just give us a brief explanation of what this grant does because I think the community will really appreciate that?

1797
02:24:23,540 --> 02:24:24,300
Yeah, absolutely.

1798
02:24:24,900 --> 02:24:26,180
So my name is Candice Harrington.

1799
02:24:26,280 --> 02:24:28,440
I'm the manager of the PSI Animal Services.

1800
02:24:29,440 --> 02:24:33,800
And so we are looking to apply for a grant from the American Society

1801
02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:37,580
of Prevention and Coal TV Animals for up to $95,000.

1802
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:43,020
And part of it is going to go towards waving or subsidizing return

1803
02:24:43,020 --> 02:24:44,200
to home fees.

1804
02:24:44,680 --> 02:24:47,680
So there's a reclaimed fees if your animal comes in,

1805
02:24:47,780 --> 02:24:49,240
yet it's pay fees to get it out.

1806
02:24:50,020 --> 02:24:52,460
And then the other portion of it is going to go towards

1807
02:24:52,460 --> 02:24:57,900
producing adoption fees, so if you're looking to adopt a bit from us, it'll help subsidizer

1808
02:24:57,900 --> 02:24:59,560
or wave that adoption fee.

1809
02:25:02,220 --> 02:25:08,520
Any other comments? As Vice Mayor said, thank you, and I hope we get the money.

1810
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:12,380
Me too. Any other comments for my council?

1811
02:25:12,540 --> 02:25:15,160
Okay, I'll entertain the motion, then. I can motion approve.

1812
02:25:15,440 --> 02:25:18,700
Second. Okay, with a first and second, please vote.

1813
02:25:25,880 --> 02:25:29,460
Concent calendar, number two, pass this five zero. Thank you very much.

1814
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:38,760
The next one to item, consent calendar item number 12. Would you like a staff report or

1815
02:25:39,500 --> 02:25:46,160
So, when this got presented to us, I was under my impression, or I was under the impression

1816
02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:49,440
that we were required to do a bike lane like this.

1817
02:25:50,140 --> 02:25:54,240
Going back to where we were told that we weren't, so then I asked them, or that it gives

1818
02:25:54,240 --> 02:26:00,660
what the presentation was, and nowhere in this presentation, does it look like what it does,

1819
02:26:00,720 --> 02:26:01,800
which Lori does now.

1820
02:26:02,260 --> 02:26:07,980
I like the protected bike lane, but the protected bike lane that was sold to us here is nothing

1821
02:26:07,980 --> 02:26:12,380
like to Larry does now. So I don't know if we can make some changes to that because this is

1822
02:26:12,380 --> 02:26:15,980
what the picture looks like. I mean essentially it looks like protective bike lane.

1823
02:26:16,380 --> 02:26:19,980
The lane is straight down where people go park on the street and that's not what to Larry looks like.

1824
02:26:20,740 --> 02:26:24,920
I've always said I've been proposing that bike lanes. I like bike lanes. I don't like the

1825
02:26:24,920 --> 02:26:28,960
delineators. It looks like it's much a missing teeth when you have those. I've always said that I

1826
02:26:28,960 --> 02:26:35,020
thought the safest bike lane is a bike lane protected by a curb. So if we could talk about this item

1827
02:26:35,020 --> 02:26:40,360
some more. Just to make it a little more user friendly for our community. This is the first

1828
02:26:40,360 --> 02:26:45,440
type of this kind. I would also think it's unfair for some of the residents along

1829
02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:47,580
to Larry because they lost a lot of parking.

1830
02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:51,700
So just so we could bring it back, I don't know

1831
02:26:51,700 --> 02:26:56,280
of the cost of this would be. And if it's something astronomical then I think it's, we're going

1832
02:26:56,280 --> 02:27:00,180
to probably be stuck with this at this time. But I would just like to see, get those questions

1833
02:27:00,180 --> 02:27:01,580
answers before the proceed.

1834
02:27:05,460 --> 02:27:08,340
Any other, Councillor Nelson, do you have any comments on this one?

1835
02:27:08,580 --> 02:27:09,180
Any questions?

1836
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:11,260
Okay.

1837
02:27:12,120 --> 02:27:12,500
Vice Mayor?

1838
02:27:12,840 --> 02:27:17,400
I just want to make clear to the public that this is the first step in reviewing this project.

1839
02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:20,000
There's no decisions, no cost estimates or anything tonight.

1840
02:27:20,220 --> 02:27:23,380
This simply allows us to move forward and discuss it further.

1841
02:27:23,800 --> 02:27:25,460
So I know many of you are here from the neighborhood.

1842
02:27:25,700 --> 02:27:26,920
We've had meetings about this.

1843
02:27:26,920 --> 02:27:36,980
So, this is step one, and you guys all have my contact information, so feel free to reach out to me as we move along, but we will have a special meeting for this.

1844
02:27:37,160 --> 02:27:46,600
Second, and you will be, I'll notify you as many of you as I can, and also, you can reach out to me as well.

1845
02:27:46,880 --> 02:27:49,180
Hey, this would pause the future strategy and correct you.

1846
02:27:49,300 --> 02:27:52,620
Yes, this should pause until we make a final decision on design.

1847
02:27:54,760 --> 02:27:58,340
Okay, so my only comment is, um, I'm sorry.

1848
02:27:58,640 --> 02:27:59,300
I'm sorry.

1849
02:27:59,320 --> 02:27:59,700
I'm sorry.

1850
02:28:00,380 --> 02:28:04,620
Yeah, I'll wait for the meeting where we discuss everything and allow the public to give us more input.

1851
02:28:05,640 --> 02:28:11,580
And so just for the public record, um, this doesn't necessarily mean that there's a meaning changes.

1852
02:28:11,700 --> 02:28:13,560
Means that there'll be future discussion on the item.

1853
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:20,720
It's possible that we could potentially change the way it looks or we could potentially keep it exactly the way it already is,

1854
02:28:20,720 --> 02:28:27,420
But by putting it on a future agenda item, we're then going to be allowed to have more context, more information.

1855
02:28:28,720 --> 02:28:31,760
And they'll give you additional time for the public to speak on this issue.

1856
02:28:33,400 --> 02:28:35,860
Okay, so there's no other questions or comments.

1857
02:28:36,260 --> 02:28:37,580
I will entertain a motion on this one.

1858
02:28:37,860 --> 02:28:38,500
Mr. Approve.

1859
02:28:38,780 --> 02:28:38,880
Second.

1860
02:28:40,990 --> 02:28:43,730
We have first and second. All those in favor please vote.

1861
02:28:48,480 --> 02:28:51,160
Item number 12 passes five zero. Thank you very much.

1862
02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:54,060
Okay, last we're going to go on to item number 13.

1863
02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:13,180
I think people need to understand the state as it contributed a ton of money to food banks.

1864
02:29:14,620 --> 02:29:19,340
Last Thursday of federal judge said the administration has to release funding for

1865
02:29:19,340 --> 02:29:25,160
And supposedly, they're going to release partial funding on Wednesday.

1866
02:29:25,900 --> 02:29:32,120
Now, how fast it gets down to this level is kind of an interesting discussion to have.

1867
02:29:32,760 --> 02:29:36,860
But I think, in I understand the concern, I understand the passion,

1868
02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:42,220
but I think that that drive needs be driven to your local representatives.

1869
02:29:42,440 --> 02:29:46,600
What I mean, your senators and your congressmen, they're in Washington, D.C.

1870
02:29:46,600 --> 02:29:49,800
And you may say, well, they won't talk to me or I can't reach them.

1871
02:29:50,480 --> 02:29:53,540
So you understand in the lockdown, they're the only people getting paid.

1872
02:29:54,460 --> 02:29:58,360
In the entire lockdown, the federal, your senators, your representatives, the only

1873
02:29:58,360 --> 02:29:59,320
getting paid.

1874
02:29:59,440 --> 02:29:59,980
They're here to rep-

1875
02:30:01,120 --> 02:30:16,160
And I'm sorry to say both parties have failed the public miserably. But if we can get a ground swell up, that everybody makes an attempt to call your representative, to call your state Senator, is anything going to change?

1876
02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:20,420
is historically, probably not, but at least they've heard a loud voice.

1877
02:30:21,220 --> 02:30:25,300
I won't support this because this opens up a can of worms for this city financially.

1878
02:30:26,080 --> 02:30:31,200
If we say yes to a given program, then how do you say no to another program?

1879
02:30:31,740 --> 02:30:32,780
And then another program.

1880
02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:35,180
I think funding is coming.

1881
02:30:36,320 --> 02:30:38,560
Council members also have a discretionary fund.

1882
02:30:38,960 --> 02:30:43,800
Any council member up here can donate money to whatever agency they would like to donate money to.

1883
02:30:43,800 --> 02:30:49,580
We have seen your meals on a discussion item tonight, again, we have that opportunity.

1884
02:30:50,540 --> 02:30:59,000
I will not support this item because I think it's in the purview of our federal government

1885
02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:02,680
to take care of the people that elected them to office.

1886
02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:07,220
Councillor Sardin, do you have any questions or comments on this item?

1887
02:31:07,620 --> 02:31:15,160
No, just, you know, Councillor Mernellson did say, you know, that partial funding would be

1888
02:31:15,160 --> 02:31:29,020
It means there's a gap and with folks that won't be receiving their full benefits, it has a ripple effect in the community with our grocery stores and then that affects the workers and it just goes on and on.

1889
02:31:30,240 --> 02:31:33,860
I'm not asking that we, I'm not committing to any number.

1890
02:31:34,220 --> 02:31:35,600
For all we know it could be a thousand dollars.

1891
02:31:35,780 --> 02:31:36,460
I mean, I don't know, right?

1892
02:31:36,880 --> 02:31:39,940
I'm definitely going to want a request that we have more.

1893
02:31:39,940 --> 02:31:51,120
But if we could help with anything that the Council is willing to give on top of what we already have as discretionary funds, I would be very appreciative of that.

1894
02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:53,340
And I'm sure many of the families in my society would do.

1895
02:31:53,700 --> 02:32:03,320
And I know there's non-profits that I think, like the, my society emergency aid, who does check utility bills to make sure they live in the city of my society.

1896
02:32:03,320 --> 02:32:10,880
But when they go to go receive food from them, so anybody can't just come and get the food,

1897
02:32:11,180 --> 02:32:12,400
they verify information.

1898
02:32:13,640 --> 02:32:17,800
So again, I'd appreciate if Council would consider moving this forward so we can discuss further

1899
02:32:17,800 --> 02:32:19,720
and figure out those details.

1900
02:32:21,400 --> 02:32:21,780
Thank you.

1901
02:32:22,060 --> 02:32:22,580
Councillor and Pritchigan.

1902
02:32:22,780 --> 02:32:24,060
Any questions or comments on the item?

1903
02:32:24,500 --> 02:32:24,860
No.

1904
02:32:25,480 --> 02:32:29,980
I've always been a pretty consistent federal issues or federal issues and local issues or local

1905
02:32:29,980 --> 02:32:30,460
issues.

1906
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:33,580
And we shouldn't get involved with the federal issue.

1907
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:35,620
I've always been consistent on that.

1908
02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:37,120
I think it's a dangerous precedent.

1909
02:32:37,400 --> 02:32:39,080
When do you step it on the federal issue?

1910
02:32:39,120 --> 02:32:40,760
When don't you step it on a federal issue?

1911
02:32:41,620 --> 02:32:44,260
If we give it to one organization, why don't you give it another organization?

1912
02:32:44,620 --> 02:32:45,980
And since it's a dangerous precedent,

1913
02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:50,120
I don't think that's in our peer purview on the city council.

1914
02:32:52,460 --> 02:32:55,280
You know, I would say that I urge Congress to act.

1915
02:32:55,640 --> 02:32:58,400
This is what we put them to do when they're not there doing their job.

1916
02:32:58,400 --> 02:33:05,980
Now, would I be okay with us writing a letter to our Congress representatives, urgent and

1917
02:33:05,980 --> 02:33:08,760
vote on this to get people that supplies they need?

1918
02:33:09,160 --> 02:33:12,920
Yes, I would be fully supportive of that, because that's in our purview, that's what our

1919
02:33:12,920 --> 02:33:13,760
job is.

1920
02:33:14,220 --> 02:33:18,980
I don't think this is what the system is very, very dangerous precedent, because once you do

1921
02:33:18,980 --> 02:33:22,060
for one, you guys do for all, and that's how we've always worked on the city council.

1922
02:33:22,920 --> 02:33:27,840
We try to stay in our lane and do what we do, do what our job is here, and this is a federal

1923
02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:31,960
government job, not a local government job, and that's why I don't want to

1924
02:33:31,960 --> 02:33:35,180
set up that dangerous president, so that's why I won't be supportive of this

1925
02:33:35,180 --> 02:33:38,900
tonight. I will say that we have discretionary funds, and we can pick

1926
02:33:38,900 --> 02:33:41,380
the organizations that we want to help out with those discretionary

1927
02:33:41,380 --> 02:33:45,560
funds, and those are those funds that are meant for for us to give us

1928
02:33:45,560 --> 02:33:49,540
the organizations that we think need that, and that's why we have those

1929
02:33:49,540 --> 02:33:53,300
funds. But to use taxpayer in general fund money for this, I don't think

1930
02:33:53,300 --> 02:33:56,080
that's appropriate use of the public funds, so I can be supportive of this

1931
02:33:56,080 --> 02:33:56,240
I'm sorry.

1932
02:33:57,500 --> 02:33:58,240
Wait, may I win?

1933
02:33:58,840 --> 02:34:00,240
I mean, comments or questions?

1934
02:34:01,900 --> 02:34:04,720
It's the former executive director of the EAC.

1935
02:34:04,900 --> 02:34:13,300
I probably need to conflict myself out of this, but I'm not very, that was my whole request

1936
02:34:13,300 --> 02:34:18,000
of this council and I know many of them have done that, was that they could, way would consider

1937
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:23,320
discretionary funds going to the food pantry, as well as my friends, neighbors and family

1938
02:34:23,320 --> 02:34:23,740
members.

1939
02:34:23,740 --> 02:34:27,340
And so I urge everyone in this audience to think about that even $25.

1940
02:34:28,040 --> 02:34:32,340
I mean, any amount that you can send to our local food pantry, they can double

1941
02:34:32,340 --> 02:34:33,480
in Tripoli effect.

1942
02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:38,520
I will support Council Member Soto because I think it's the right thing to do right now.

1943
02:34:38,620 --> 02:34:41,880
In two weeks or whenever this comes up next, the whole thing may be over.

1944
02:34:42,460 --> 02:34:47,480
But I think it's worth having at least a discussion, although I know it won't go far.

1945
02:34:47,560 --> 02:34:48,500
That's all right.

1946
02:34:48,940 --> 02:34:50,920
We each sometimes just have to support one another.

1947
02:34:51,440 --> 02:34:52,140
Thank you.

1948
02:34:52,140 --> 02:34:59,980
Thank you. And so on this item, I'll be voting now also a federal judge has already stated that this is a program that needs to be funded by the federal government.

1949
02:35:01,460 --> 02:35:05,460
So we should be dealing with, so I will not be supporting this item.

1950
02:35:06,440 --> 02:35:08,880
At this time, I'll entertain a motion.

1951
02:35:19,930 --> 02:35:25,490
I move to approve the request by Council Member Soto to place item on a future city council agenda.

1952
02:35:25,890 --> 02:35:29,270
To discuss the possibility of the situation to a food base non-profit in my side.

1953
02:35:30,130 --> 02:35:30,870
And I'll second that.

1954
02:35:30,870 --> 02:35:32,630
for a second please vote

1955
02:35:39,830 --> 02:35:43,790
and the item fails three two. Thank you very much. Okay next

1956
02:35:43,790 --> 02:35:49,050
we're going to go on to regular items of public hearing. Comments related to regular items

1957
02:35:49,050 --> 02:35:53,090
of public hearing items are limited to three minutes per speaker for a maximum of 30 minutes per

1958
02:35:53,090 --> 02:35:57,430
item. The mayor may reasonably limit or stand the public comment period to preserve the council's

1959
02:35:57,430 --> 02:36:01,910
interest on conducting efficient order limit meetings. We're so off with item number one public

1960
02:36:01,910 --> 02:36:04,950
during an adoption of resolution number 2025-74,

1961
02:36:05,610 --> 02:36:08,510
authorizing fee adjustment for senior mill program.

1962
02:36:08,890 --> 02:36:09,630
Staff report, please.

1963
02:36:15,120 --> 02:36:16,560
Thank you, Mayor Vice Mayor and Council.

1964
02:36:17,320 --> 02:36:19,280
Jason Glick, Parks and Recreation Director.

1965
02:36:20,180 --> 02:36:23,900
Tonight I have, I will arrest the Rubin Camp Recreation Manager here.

1966
02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:26,540
Holly Ellis, sitting right over there.

1967
02:36:26,840 --> 02:36:30,620
Recreation supervisor and Stephanie Soto, Recreation Coordinator.

1968
02:36:33,500 --> 02:36:35,040
Tonight we're here to conduct a public hearing

1969
02:36:35,040 --> 02:36:36,900
to authorize a proposed fee adjustment

1970
02:36:36,900 --> 02:36:41,800
for the Senior Center Ledge Program Price on a multi-tiered pricing structure for

1971
02:36:41,800 --> 02:36:48,600
Vice-SIA seniors and non-SIA seniors for DININ and to go meals and appropriate $17,000

1972
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:49,920
from the general fund.

1973
02:36:51,560 --> 02:36:58,860
The recommended motion tonight is to move to adopt resolution number 2025-74, authorizing

1974
02:36:58,860 --> 02:37:04,000
the increase the price of the senior meal program up to $10 for Vice-SIA seniors and up

1975
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:11,000
$12 for $9 by sign by signers as outlined in the report and appropriate additional $17,000 from the general fund.

1976
02:37:12,640 --> 02:37:17,200
On September 29, 2025, the current contractor, Sue Saves, Creative Catering,

1977
02:37:17,360 --> 02:37:20,460
Notified staff will be no longer able to provide.

1978
02:37:21,160 --> 02:37:24,940
Mail services will be an effective date of November 1, 2025.

1979
02:37:26,440 --> 02:37:33,380
The city has worked with the current vendors Sue Saves on a month-month basis following the expiration date of their five year contracts since February

1980
02:37:36,760 --> 02:37:42,900
on October 4th, staff met with a cater to discuss options, following the meeting, the cater,

1981
02:37:43,220 --> 02:37:49,580
submitted a proposal to continue meal services. Meanwhile, during when all of those discussions

1982
02:37:49,580 --> 02:37:55,420
were going on, staff also reached out to several local food vendors, including queer health

1983
02:37:55,420 --> 02:38:01,840
and KT AAA. We actually had conversations with queer health and KT AAA. However,

1984
02:38:01,840 --> 02:38:06,740
Suce was the only vendor who submitted a proposal by our established deadline.

1985
02:38:07,760 --> 02:38:15,680
KT AAA is a grant funded program that runs on a four year grant cycle and their next cycle

1986
02:38:15,680 --> 02:38:21,100
for funding is fiscal year 2627, very familiar with KT AAA.

1987
02:38:21,300 --> 02:38:25,060
We use KT AAA in the city of Tolerary to bright meal services.

1988
02:38:25,060 --> 02:38:36,860
It's a nutritional program, it has to meet certain guidelines to serve the meal and it's a $3.55 donation for that program.

1989
02:38:36,900 --> 02:38:38,640
This is something we can look at in the future.

1990
02:38:39,220 --> 02:38:41,140
We also reached out to Cuia Health.

1991
02:38:42,300 --> 02:38:48,740
The meals they were talking about were the meals they provide patients, but we never received a proposal by our established deadline.

1992
02:38:50,150 --> 02:38:55,490
In our parking recreation program fee philosophy, the meal program qualifies for a fee subsidy

1993
02:38:55,490 --> 02:38:58,870
of 50% senior programs and youth programs.

1994
02:38:59,750 --> 02:39:06,650
To continue the contract and the current meal service, the contractors agree to a six-month

1995
02:39:06,650 --> 02:39:11,890
contract to increase the unit price from $450 per meal to $10 per meal.

1996
02:39:12,710 --> 02:39:18,790
To maintain a balance of the fee subsidy and participant contribution staff is proposing and increase

1997
02:39:18,790 --> 02:39:22,530
and participation meal services with a phased approach.

1998
02:39:24,110 --> 02:39:26,190
Phase one would begin on December 1st.

1999
02:39:26,370 --> 02:39:29,030
For seniors' dine-end price would increase to $6.

2000
02:39:29,970 --> 02:39:32,130
Take out prices would increase to $7.

2001
02:39:32,950 --> 02:39:37,090
Non-seniors and non-residents on December 1st.

2002
02:39:37,350 --> 02:39:39,090
Dine in a price would increase to $10.

2003
02:39:39,910 --> 02:39:42,050
Take out a price would increase to $11.

2004
02:39:42,910 --> 02:39:45,570
Phase two would begin on March 1st, 2026.

2005
02:39:46,270 --> 02:39:49,510
Dine in the price would increase to $7.75.

2006
02:39:50,510 --> 02:39:53,310
Take out a price would increase to $8.75.

2007
02:39:54,790 --> 02:39:58,570
We're currently working on an RFP to secure a long-term caterer.

2008
02:39:59,570 --> 02:39:59,970
The city is...

2009
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:06,100
Working on that process, and that RFP should hit the streets by the end of this calendar year.

2010
02:40:06,920 --> 02:40:12,840
Regarding the RFP, an up-to-date amount is being recommended in the event that a bid for a new

2011
02:40:12,840 --> 02:40:17,900
caterer comes in lower than the current price. In that case, staff could implement the lower rates

2012
02:40:17,900 --> 02:40:24,540
without going back through this revision process. Again, the recommended motion is to move to a

2013
02:40:24,540 --> 02:40:31,580
resolution number 2025-74, authorizing the increase of the price of the senior meal program to

2014
02:40:31,580 --> 02:40:37,400
up to $10 for Viceroy seniors and up to $12 for $9 for non-viceroy seniors as outlined

2015
02:40:37,400 --> 02:40:43,480
in the port and again, appropriate additional $17,000 from the general fund.

2016
02:40:44,320 --> 02:40:48,340
At this time, Council, I'm here to answer any questions that you may have.

2017
02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:51,240
We have staff here to answer questions as well.

2018
02:40:51,480 --> 02:40:52,100
Thank you.

2019
02:40:52,220 --> 02:40:52,840
Thank you, Jason.

2020
02:40:53,460 --> 02:40:55,180
Councilmember Nelson any questions?

2021
02:40:57,060 --> 02:41:03,600
No, I mean it's a thorough report and understand the dynamics of why this has to happen.

2022
02:41:03,900 --> 02:41:08,240
Now here's an example where it's a city service and it's something the Council can look at.

2023
02:41:09,100 --> 02:41:10,540
I appreciate the phase in approach.

2024
02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:17,480
I think people need to understand that that's a subsidized dollar amount and probably it's not covering everything we need to cover.

2025
02:41:18,320 --> 02:41:23,960
And again, the Council members can use discretionary fund to help offset some of this.

2026
02:41:24,300 --> 02:41:26,820
And I think at that juncture we should look at that.

2027
02:41:27,320 --> 02:41:33,340
But I think people need to understand when our costs go up, you have to do something to

2028
02:41:33,340 --> 02:41:36,380
cover your costs even though this is a subsidized program.

2029
02:41:37,000 --> 02:41:39,040
Is it something we all wanted to see happen?

2030
02:41:39,320 --> 02:41:40,380
The answer is no.

2031
02:41:41,560 --> 02:41:46,320
But at some time you're dealt with a hand where you have to respond to it, and that's

2032
02:41:46,320 --> 02:41:50,940
is taking place now. I appreciate the staff for the efforts in coming up with this plan.

2033
02:41:51,100 --> 02:41:58,920
I think it's a fair plan. Change is hard. But again, because economic dynamics, it puts

2034
02:41:58,920 --> 02:42:02,880
the city in a bad situation. So I'd be supportive of this.

2035
02:42:05,060 --> 02:42:06,660
It comes from a pretty good.

2036
02:42:06,740 --> 02:42:14,380
So this is a kind of like a stop gap program because the prices got rocketed up. We had to

2037
02:42:14,380 --> 02:42:19,100
something to fill that gap. I'm hoping we can get a vendor that comes in a lot cheaper, but

2038
02:42:19,100 --> 02:42:25,580
I don't foresee that happening. I hope it does. Maybe work around with maybe any kind of

2039
02:42:25,580 --> 02:42:31,080
local restaurants around there that could maybe do this at a lower cost, but I understand why we

2040
02:42:31,080 --> 02:42:36,500
have to do this. I don't like doing this. I would think this is a, like, Council Member Nelson said

2041
02:42:36,500 --> 02:42:42,020
this is a program where we can't get involved in business a local program. So unfortunately,

2042
02:42:42,020 --> 02:42:45,860
I think we have to support this because we don't support this in the whole program goes away, correct?

2043
02:42:47,580 --> 02:42:47,640
All right.

2044
02:42:47,740 --> 02:42:48,720
Thank you.

2045
02:42:50,240 --> 02:42:51,860
Councilmember Soto, any questions or comments?

2046
02:42:52,180 --> 02:42:52,440
I don't know.

2047
02:42:52,440 --> 02:42:57,560
Only question have is, is there any grants that we can go after that would help lower these,

2048
02:42:57,680 --> 02:43:02,480
or keep these costs low that are not like meals on wheels or, you know, USDA?

2049
02:43:03,760 --> 02:43:07,940
We can certainly research that, but the grant I'm most familiar with is the KT Triple A,

2050
02:43:07,940 --> 02:43:11,960
which C set uses through the meals on wheels program.

2051
02:43:11,960 --> 02:43:15,260
And the Meals on Wheels program is available to folks in Vaisal.

2052
02:43:16,280 --> 02:43:16,340
Yeah.

2053
02:43:16,660 --> 02:43:17,900
Thank you.

2054
02:43:17,920 --> 02:43:18,660
Nice to meet you everyone.

2055
02:43:19,100 --> 02:43:20,880
I just want to clarification.

2056
02:43:21,320 --> 02:43:23,200
I'm looking at the attachment to the resolution.

2057
02:43:23,820 --> 02:43:30,140
And it says beginning March 2026 a dying in price increase of up to 775.

2058
02:43:30,780 --> 02:43:32,300
That's the maximum because I heard $10.

2059
02:43:32,580 --> 02:43:35,220
But that was for non-Vaisalia people and 19 years.

2060
02:43:35,240 --> 02:43:35,800
That is right.

2061
02:43:36,140 --> 02:43:39,400
So it could potentially go up to 775.

2062
02:43:39,400 --> 02:43:47,220
that you have a caterer at $15 a meal or something, right? Am I understanding that?

2063
02:43:47,520 --> 02:43:56,300
Yeah, so we have a phased approach to this and the subsidy, the 50% subsidy is at 775.

2064
02:43:57,000 --> 02:44:00,360
Okay. I just wanted to clarify that. Thank you.

2065
02:44:00,360 --> 02:44:06,240
And Mike, I was just going to clarify that's what I'd call an all-in price, so that's the staffing,

2066
02:44:06,800 --> 02:44:11,980
the, you know, all of the costs that are associated with providing the meal, not just the meal itself.

2067
02:44:12,740 --> 02:44:16,000
Right, but that was, because he was, he was, yeah, lots and lots and lots and lots.

2068
02:44:16,000 --> 02:44:25,720
A lot of numbers and I just want to verify that the maximum price increases 775, which in today's economy is, for next year.

2069
02:44:29,580 --> 02:44:34,740
So for this year, if this motion doesn't move forward, it would be $6 for next year, it would be $7 and $7 and $7.

2070
02:44:35,140 --> 02:44:41,940
That's up to unless the bid comes in less, and then it would be the lesser amount, correct?

2071
02:44:42,460 --> 02:44:42,740
Correct.

2072
02:44:43,160 --> 02:44:45,920
If the bid comes in less, we can actually lower the fee.

2073
02:44:46,660 --> 02:44:50,100
Why is it take out price to dollar more than the dime in price?

2074
02:44:51,020 --> 02:44:53,360
Actually, I have a lower say answer to that question.

2075
02:44:53,360 --> 02:44:54,100
Thank you.

2076
02:44:54,740 --> 02:44:59,980
As Eddie Mandra mentioned, the pricing is reflective of also the staff and then to go's, we have...

2077
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,800
Additional materials that we have to include with the to go pricing. So we have the to go containers, bags, and utensils that we include.

2078
02:45:08,060 --> 02:45:17,500
Okay. All right. I appreciate you explaining that. Okay. Let's go ahead and open this up to the public. Anybody wishing to speak on this item. Please come forward and state your name and city residents.

2079
02:45:17,500 --> 02:45:18,440
My

2080
02:45:21,990 --> 02:45:29,050
name is Patty Stergel, and I live in Viceroy, and my last name is spelled STU-R-G-I-L-L.

2081
02:45:30,230 --> 02:45:43,230
I am a senior advocate and a resource person. I work at two senior communities, and I have residents.

2082
02:45:43,910 --> 02:45:50,710
At least half of them are not going to get their snap, and as you said, it's not going to be something you address now.

2083
02:45:50,710 --> 02:46:01,370
But also, if the prices go up, seniors are unlimited income, my people at my residents are on a fixed income.

2084
02:46:02,110 --> 02:46:11,930
And even when the income goes up with the cost of living, it's still going to cost more for Medicare or other things.

2085
02:46:12,270 --> 02:46:18,230
And so I'm really concerned because this is something my residents do on a daily basis.

2086
02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:23,910
they go for these meals and it's so I'm kind of scared.

2087
02:46:26,430 --> 02:46:30,190
It keeps them socializing, socializing keeps them healthy.

2088
02:46:32,010 --> 02:46:34,490
I didn't understand that, but I'm now a senior too.

2089
02:46:34,650 --> 02:46:37,330
So I understand these things a little bit differently.

2090
02:46:37,970 --> 02:46:39,610
It also keeps them from isolating.

2091
02:46:40,210 --> 02:46:45,230
And if they don't have these regular meals, they are not able to get them somewhere else.

2092
02:46:45,230 --> 02:46:52,450
You know, meals and meals is great, I do have residents who take that avenue, but these

2093
02:46:52,450 --> 02:46:56,190
are people who can only walk next door to the senior center.

2094
02:46:56,370 --> 02:46:58,890
My building is right next door to the senior center.

2095
02:47:01,980 --> 02:47:11,280
Anyway, I'm here to advocate for the seniors as a whole, but my seniors are at risk,

2096
02:47:16,520 --> 02:47:16,520
very

2097
02:47:16,520 --> 02:47:18,920
I have senior men who don't cook.

2098
02:47:19,540 --> 02:47:21,020
They go there for their meals.

2099
02:47:22,060 --> 02:47:24,620
Anyway, I don't know what else to say,

2100
02:47:24,800 --> 02:47:28,920
but I just really am afraid for them and for other seniors

2101
02:47:28,920 --> 02:47:31,920
who are coming to the building, the senior center,

2102
02:47:32,600 --> 02:47:35,440
for activities and for food and socializing.

2103
02:47:35,900 --> 02:47:37,300
I don't want them to be isolated,

2104
02:47:37,500 --> 02:47:38,900
and I don't want them to go hungry

2105
02:47:38,900 --> 02:47:41,540
because they can't afford it.

2106
02:47:41,540 --> 02:47:42,280
Thank you.

2107
02:47:47,720 --> 02:47:50,100
We're going to ask that you don't applaud any of the speakers

2108
02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:54,740
where you try to keep an orderly meeting, go ahead, sir.

2109
02:47:55,300 --> 02:47:57,600
I would think since this is Central Valley,

2110
02:47:58,260 --> 02:48:00,980
the heart of the food for the world,

2111
02:48:01,640 --> 02:48:04,840
that maybe there could be partnerships with directly

2112
02:48:04,840 --> 02:48:07,000
the farms themselves, the farm owners,

2113
02:48:08,300 --> 02:48:12,360
and once again, tying snap benefits to community service,

2114
02:48:12,540 --> 02:48:14,160
maybe having a centralized kitchen

2115
02:48:14,160 --> 02:48:18,480
where snap recipients are preparing the food

2116
02:48:18,480 --> 02:48:25,460
and doing a lot of the work required by the restaurants.

2117
02:48:25,520 --> 02:48:28,280
Instead of utilizing a restaurant service,

2118
02:48:28,680 --> 02:48:34,080
maybe the SNAP recipients could do community service

2119
02:48:34,080 --> 02:48:37,160
to receive their benefits.

2120
02:48:37,640 --> 02:48:38,240
Your name is Siddler.

2121
02:48:38,240 --> 02:48:40,200
Oh, Isaac Herrera from Placelia.

2122
02:48:40,540 --> 02:48:42,040
Our people are like, can't hear that.

2123
02:48:53,690 --> 02:48:55,250
Hi, my name is Janet Fox.

2124
02:48:55,270 --> 02:48:56,870
And I too live here in Placelia.

2125
02:48:56,870 --> 02:49:04,130
And I would like to touch base about we had rumored that the lunches were going to go up between $8 and $10.

2126
02:49:05,230 --> 02:49:07,010
Okay, that's just not acceptable.

2127
02:49:07,850 --> 02:49:12,770
We have two senior low-income senior housings right next door to the senior center.

2128
02:49:13,490 --> 02:49:16,850
And for some of these seniors, that's their only meal for the day.

2129
02:49:17,430 --> 02:49:18,550
And that's not good.

2130
02:49:19,270 --> 02:49:25,530
So I did take up a petition with signatures that if they would continue coming

2131
02:49:25,530 --> 02:49:27,990
if the prices increase that much?

2132
02:49:28,470 --> 02:49:28,510
No.

2133
02:49:29,670 --> 02:49:31,730
And you more than welcome to have this.

2134
02:49:33,390 --> 02:49:35,510
I'm going to give that to Rainer right there.

2135
02:49:48,180 --> 02:49:50,140
Hello, I'm a euphemper Sarah from this trip.

2136
02:49:50,280 --> 02:49:51,920
I live in this trip one, vice mayor.

2137
02:49:52,520 --> 02:49:55,280
I just wanted to comment about this.

2138
02:49:55,720 --> 02:49:58,460
Knowing the situation that our country is living right now,

2139
02:49:58,740 --> 02:49:59,960
seeing our White House being destroyed.

2140
02:50:00,620 --> 02:50:06,700
I know you said it's not your jurisdiction, but I'm going to comment something.

2141
02:50:08,740 --> 02:50:29,980
So some of you are supported by the Republican Party. You all know they would validail. Why don't you go ask they would validail to help out? You guys are friends with him. So I think we can, I don't think it would be as smart if I was sitting there. I would try to come up with a solution and not, you know, I don't think it's smart to raise the price.

2142
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:33,580
We understand that things are getting expensive, right?

2143
02:50:34,540 --> 02:50:39,820
But also there's things going on that don't make sense to a lot of people.

2144
02:50:41,420 --> 02:50:48,240
So when it comes to finance I think we can look at different items from the city's budget

2145
02:50:48,240 --> 02:50:51,540
and try to fit in shuffle things around, I would say.

2146
02:50:52,460 --> 02:50:59,080
But really I don't think it would be a smart idea at the moment, just currently raising these prices.

2147
02:50:59,620 --> 02:51:02,280
especially of what's going on.

2148
02:51:03,000 --> 02:51:06,120
I mean, I've been sitting here for almost a year and a half,

2149
02:51:06,240 --> 02:51:09,260
and I have heard some of you talk about the importance

2150
02:51:09,760 --> 02:51:13,140
of making like easier for seniors in the panel.

2151
02:51:13,720 --> 02:51:15,440
And I've heard it from some of you guys.

2152
02:51:15,800 --> 02:51:20,420
So I think that if they're here telling you that it's not going to benefit,

2153
02:51:21,300 --> 02:51:25,700
how about we try to look for another solution within the pool

2154
02:51:25,700 --> 02:51:26,760
of the city, I think.

2155
02:51:26,760 --> 02:51:31,980
And again, you know, speak today at Validale because I know somebody you don't like Jim Costa.

2156
02:51:32,660 --> 02:51:38,960
So if you can talk to Jim Costa then that would be great and see what solutions he would offer at the federal level.

2157
02:51:39,320 --> 02:51:40,060
Thank you.

2158
02:51:51,090 --> 02:51:53,690
My name is Stan Fox, F.O.X.

2159
02:51:55,130 --> 02:52:01,830
and I'm a resident of Isaia, a city employed for the last 27 years with the recreation department.

2160
02:52:02,330 --> 02:52:05,530
But I'm here to speak about the lunch program.

2161
02:52:06,530 --> 02:52:14,610
Number one, the lunch program issue would not even be here today if the RFP was done in

2162
02:52:14,610 --> 02:52:15,230
proper manner.

2163
02:52:15,330 --> 02:52:21,070
We knew in 2020 that we were going to have a contract that was five years and it ran

2164
02:52:21,070 --> 02:52:23,950
out in March of 2025.

2165
02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:32,230
Here we are eight months later doing an emergency kind of situation where we're trying to figure

2166
02:52:32,230 --> 02:52:43,570
out where contract with bidders would have sorted it out without all this to do. Also in

2167
02:52:43,570 --> 02:52:53,690
the staff, it talks about the vendors producing $4.50 for that time. Now the people

2168
02:52:53,690 --> 02:53:00,270
who have been dating lunches pay 450, that's like 100% of the meal and the other portion

2169
02:53:00,270 --> 02:53:08,530
of that income that's being charged, that's 50, 50, is not really spelled out in the, in the

2170
02:53:08,530 --> 02:53:19,290
staff report. So, and then we have the two phases, which is fine. The first phase, everybody knew

2171
02:53:19,290 --> 02:53:26,670
that price of food was gone up. And $6 was a number that everybody probably agree on, which

2172
02:53:26,670 --> 02:53:37,470
is nice but it's only 53 months. 775 will probably have people leave the program. I was

2173
02:53:37,470 --> 02:53:46,470
on the KT AAA board. I went to all the senior lunch programs in Tolerian King's County. The closest

2174
02:53:46,470 --> 02:53:53,230
one is City of Tolerary. They run it through federal funding. It's a $3 donation. That's what

2175
02:53:53,230 --> 02:53:56,110
charge there. It's to go type meal.

2176
02:53:58,310 --> 02:54:02,350
And to me, the lunch program is the heart of the senior

2177
02:54:02,350 --> 02:54:08,370
center. It really is, everybody comes there first for the lunch, and then the other power

2178
02:54:08,370 --> 02:54:15,210
programs kind of feed off of that. And I'd hate to see that go. I personally will drive

2179
02:54:15,210 --> 02:54:19,190
over to the story to get this three-dollar lunch. I'll bring it back to the United States.

2180
02:54:19,190 --> 02:54:27,850
but that's the best I can do. But they don't care. So I hate to see the program fall apart

2181
02:54:27,850 --> 02:54:36,950
because it is lunch program issue with the cost. So that's my two cents. I got 19 seconds.

2182
02:54:39,090 --> 02:54:41,870
That's it. Thank you.

2183
02:54:49,740 --> 02:54:55,980
Jim Reaves by Celia. I'm fortunate enough that I don't feel the need to

2184
02:54:55,980 --> 02:54:59,980
Take advantage of the Senior Meals program, even though I probably qualify now.

2185
02:55:00,660 --> 02:55:16,240
But as a resident of Visalia, I would not object to the city increasing its underwriting more than 50% if that's what it would take to keep the costs where there are now.

2186
02:55:16,940 --> 02:55:22,880
I would not object. I think that would be an acceptable use of city tax money. Thank you.

2187
02:55:31,360 --> 02:55:38,300
Michelle Canaryfaitalia. I agree with what Jim proposed and that we should be using

2188
02:55:38,300 --> 02:55:45,160
part of that money to go to this. I don't think it's fair that the senior lunch program is increasing

2189
02:55:45,160 --> 02:55:53,920
for our seniors when their finances aren't increasing. It doesn't make any sense to me. It's not

2190
02:55:53,920 --> 02:55:59,380
I mean it's not like any one person's fault. It's just kind of how everything's working right now in

2191
02:55:59,380 --> 02:56:04,400
country, and that's time that we're living, but I really don't think that the Senior

2192
02:56:04,400 --> 02:56:12,980
Lunge Program should be increased anymore, especially when it's the one time that people

2193
02:56:12,980 --> 02:56:19,060
have just socialized with one another, and people aren't isolating themselves. Thank you.

2194
02:56:28,440 --> 02:56:32,440
I'm Mediagi, and I live here in Bicythea.

2195
02:56:34,180 --> 02:56:40,560
I first want to say, it bothers me a lot that it's so easy for you to compartmentalize

2196
02:56:40,560 --> 02:56:45,980
and take cover over the fact that this is a local funding we're talking about and a local

2197
02:56:45,980 --> 02:56:46,680
commitment.

2198
02:56:48,620 --> 02:56:56,680
I see it broader, I see it people need to eat, people need to not be isolated, people need

2199
02:56:56,680 --> 02:57:05,700
senior services, and so the socialists in me, I guess, wishes, well, let's put it this way.

2200
02:57:06,120 --> 02:57:14,360
I was today's years old when I found out that by a Sania Senior Center, a meal program

2201
02:57:15,040 --> 02:57:24,980
was funded by the city, and it wasn't part of the AAA contract, and because I know

2202
02:57:24,980 --> 02:57:32,100
those programs allow for federal funding, it allows for seniors in the community that are

2203
02:57:32,100 --> 02:57:45,140
a low income to be able to come and afford a meal or as it's put, it's a voluntary contribution

2204
02:57:45,140 --> 02:57:52,380
that they are asked for. And if they can't pay that, they're not refused a meal. So for me,

2205
02:57:52,380 --> 02:57:54,840
I'm nice, but I say, that's a socialist of me thinking,

2206
02:57:55,380 --> 02:57:59,200
well, that's really what would be ideal.

2207
02:57:59,920 --> 02:58:03,360
Except if we want to make sure that, you know,

2208
02:58:03,420 --> 02:58:06,820
we have the program set up, like we want it to be,

2209
02:58:07,060 --> 02:58:09,620
and as opposed to opening it up to more people,

2210
02:58:10,080 --> 02:58:11,800
because I understand that in Teleri,

2211
02:58:11,840 --> 02:58:14,740
when they did convert over to federal funding,

2212
02:58:15,480 --> 02:58:18,040
they did have some issues in regards to folks

2213
02:58:18,040 --> 02:58:20,020
that were coming to the Senior Center

2214
02:58:20,020 --> 02:58:22,800
that we're not necessarily that welcomed.

2215
02:58:24,460 --> 02:58:29,060
So I, I too believe that if the city has many,

2216
02:58:29,660 --> 02:58:32,720
that this is a good way to utilize that many,

2217
02:58:32,780 --> 02:58:35,260
even though, like I said, it bothers me

2218
02:58:35,260 --> 02:58:36,200
that

2219
02:58:38,820 --> 02:58:42,460
the compassion doesn't extend further than that

2220
02:58:42,460 --> 02:58:45,920
to families that are really, really hurting.

2221
02:58:46,240 --> 02:58:46,820
Thank you.

2222
02:58:57,220 --> 02:59:00,600
My name is Nora Par, and I live in Bacelia.

2223
02:59:00,600 --> 02:59:06,460
I am adjacent to the senior center, so I know the seniors in my building, I know the people at the senior center.

2224
02:59:07,080 --> 02:59:07,620
They're awesome.

2225
02:59:08,340 --> 02:59:10,860
They don't want this anymore than any of the rest of us do.

2226
02:59:11,340 --> 02:59:17,980
The senior center is the only place that I can name that has never increased their prices throughout COVID,

2227
02:59:18,200 --> 02:59:21,660
where everybody else is making cans of money all over the place.

2228
02:59:22,900 --> 02:59:23,880
This is hard.

2229
02:59:24,660 --> 02:59:26,020
This is hard on our seniors.

2230
02:59:26,360 --> 02:59:27,220
We do have seniors.

2231
02:59:27,460 --> 02:59:29,400
The only meal they get is next door.

2232
02:59:30,400 --> 02:59:32,940
There's got to be a middle ground someplace.

2233
02:59:34,660 --> 02:59:37,020
You can't just literally say these things,

2234
02:59:37,580 --> 02:59:38,760
I don't get it.

2235
02:59:39,180 --> 02:59:42,180
We worked, we raised our kids, we paid our taxes,

2236
02:59:42,520 --> 02:59:44,240
just like the little formula thing says,

2237
02:59:44,340 --> 02:59:45,420
and now look at us.

2238
02:59:46,300 --> 02:59:49,100
This is the only socialization that most of us have,

2239
02:59:49,280 --> 02:59:50,140
or a meal.

2240
02:59:50,960 --> 02:59:53,400
Some place to go where people are glad to see you.

2241
02:59:56,130 --> 02:59:56,930
We need that.

2242
02:59:57,670 --> 02:59:59,970
That's what we don't take it away from us.

2243
03:00:00,750 --> 03:00:06,810
I'm willing to go to six dollars. I'm sure the rest of them would. But the rest of it just, it's too much.

2244
03:00:07,910 --> 03:00:14,870
And I get both sides, but you have to have some compassion for the rest of us. It's hard on all of us.

2245
03:00:15,390 --> 03:00:16,270
Thank you.

2246
03:00:24,660 --> 03:00:26,760
I want to add one more thing.

2247
03:00:27,300 --> 03:00:30,080
I'm sorry if you've already spoken, I'd love to get back up in a week again.

2248
03:00:30,140 --> 03:00:31,080
We have an awesome thing.

2249
03:00:32,020 --> 03:00:32,900
Thank you.

2250
03:00:32,900 --> 03:00:33,700
All right.

2251
03:00:33,940 --> 03:00:34,880
Anybody else wish to speak?

2252
03:00:36,300 --> 03:00:37,320
We'll go ahead and close.

2253
03:00:37,640 --> 03:00:38,160
Anyone else?

2254
03:00:38,280 --> 03:00:39,900
I come on up, ma'am.

2255
03:00:40,680 --> 03:00:43,100
Since a lot of you guys are having a walkers, I'm not going to force you guys into the line.

2256
03:00:43,320 --> 03:00:44,780
You can come on up when you're ready.

2257
03:00:47,440 --> 03:00:47,600
Hi.

2258
03:00:47,720 --> 03:00:49,100
My name is Teresa Ted.

2259
03:00:49,300 --> 03:00:50,760
I'm a resident of Isilia.

2260
03:00:51,960 --> 03:00:53,820
I'm new to these meetings.

2261
03:00:53,980 --> 03:00:58,020
So I'm not real familiar with how it's always run.

2262
03:00:58,940 --> 03:01:03,300
However, judging by what I've been hearing so far,

2263
03:01:04,060 --> 03:01:11,580
I'm with a good people here that have said that they're in support of helping out the senior

2264
03:01:11,580 --> 03:01:21,500
center with what they need. And my view is that there may be more organizations that are going

2265
03:01:21,500 --> 03:01:33,200
to need help. And I think we should get used to that right now, because there's something that

2266
03:01:33,200 --> 03:01:41,200
our community, it is up to us to fill the gap. Or else who else is going to do it? What's

2267
03:01:41,200 --> 03:01:48,000
going to happen when people start really having problems? People can't afford food, and if

2268
03:01:48,000 --> 03:01:52,200
they're not getting food stamps, it's only going to increase crime because what are people

2269
03:01:52,200 --> 03:02:01,480
going to do? So it's just going to snowball into a huge problem that will wish we had of

2270
03:02:04,880 --> 03:02:13,100
to show our support for people, regardless of the politics, regardless of their class,

2271
03:02:16,300 --> 03:02:16,440
people

2272
03:02:16,440 --> 03:02:17,200
need help.

2273
03:02:18,800 --> 03:02:19,540
Thank you.

2274
03:02:26,280 --> 03:02:27,880
Okay, anybody else wanting to speak?

2275
03:02:30,370 --> 03:02:32,310
Okay, seeing that will go ahead and close public comments.

2276
03:02:34,270 --> 03:02:38,170
And I'll turn it back over to Councillor Nelson if you have any further comments.

2277
03:02:38,510 --> 03:02:40,530
Excuse me, can I have a clarification please?

2278
03:02:40,530 --> 03:02:50,070
Look at the motion, the attachment says up to 775 and March, but the motion says $10 and $12.

2279
03:02:50,690 --> 03:02:51,750
Let me, I was going to address that.

2280
03:02:51,810 --> 03:02:52,110
Can you?

2281
03:02:52,310 --> 03:02:53,910
Thank you.

2282
03:02:55,490 --> 03:02:57,470
I know, I'm not going to say this.

2283
03:02:58,010 --> 03:03:00,870
Number one, and I'll speak for myself.

2284
03:03:02,170 --> 03:03:03,650
This is not a political position.

2285
03:03:03,870 --> 03:03:05,150
This is a people's position.

2286
03:03:05,770 --> 03:03:12,430
So in an individual comes up here and says, I take advantage because of a given party, that's so far from the truth, ever represents you folks.

2287
03:03:14,250 --> 03:03:17,250
Our staff did a tremendous job researching this.

2288
03:03:18,010 --> 03:03:20,230
Could have been done sooner, could have been later.

2289
03:03:21,190 --> 03:03:22,150
Time is everything.

2290
03:03:23,430 --> 03:03:27,170
We were putting in a situation where the current caterer said, hey, I'm done, I'm retiring.

2291
03:03:27,830 --> 03:03:31,070
I absolutely, I already know the lady. She wants out.

2292
03:03:31,070 --> 03:03:31,730
It's simplistic.

2293
03:03:31,730 --> 03:03:35,470
not a lot of time to get the search and destroy mission.

2294
03:03:35,990 --> 03:03:39,750
The staff did a tremendous job reaching out to two agencies hoping that we could get a result.

2295
03:03:40,350 --> 03:03:41,310
And we didn't get a result.

2296
03:03:42,210 --> 03:03:46,470
So basic this is a plan stock gap plan.

2297
03:03:46,890 --> 03:03:50,590
So the question I would ask tonight is why can't we table the,

2298
03:03:50,810 --> 03:03:52,830
we don't have to make this decision tonight?

2299
03:03:53,730 --> 03:03:55,170
Why don't we table this item?

2300
03:03:55,950 --> 03:03:57,270
Do a little bit more research?

2301
03:03:58,710 --> 03:04:01,670
Maybe there is some additional funding that we can find in the general

2302
03:04:01,670 --> 03:04:07,250
phone? Maybe there's not. Maybe Council members can make the determination to use some of

2303
03:04:07,250 --> 03:04:12,530
their discretionary fund, offset some of this for seniors. But I think there needs to

2304
03:04:12,530 --> 03:04:16,950
be more discussion. You know, I appreciate that the staff did, I appreciate the time and effort

2305
03:04:16,950 --> 03:04:24,210
they put into this. I think a lot of folks here need to understand cost of doing business is

2306
03:04:24,210 --> 03:04:29,270
going up. You see that in the private sector. Well, guess what folks you see it in the public

2307
03:04:29,270 --> 03:04:35,310
sector. Our employees expect to get living wages. Our employees expect to get benefits so

2308
03:04:35,310 --> 03:04:41,070
forth and so on. That's a cost of doing business. We can absorb so much of that. Some

2309
03:04:41,070 --> 03:04:47,770
of that is a pass through. But I think there's some dynamic here that we need to take a

2310
03:04:47,770 --> 03:04:53,830
deeper dive on. And maybe there's a way there's some other additional funding. Maybe we could

2311
03:04:53,830 --> 03:04:57,910
get opportunities to talk to some other folks. Maybe they would want to get involved in our

2312
03:04:58,650 --> 03:04:59,970
I don't know, I just...

2313
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:24,750
I think this item here needs more time to have that meaningful discussion, and maybe at the end of that discussion, the results are the same, but at least we looked at every opportunity to possibly make a change for the benefit of the people we represent. So I'd recommend we table this, but other people have comments.

2314
03:05:26,490 --> 03:05:34,850
So we table this tonight so we can find different ways can solve this problem will there be food service for the time being or no?

2315
03:05:35,670 --> 03:05:36,650
Say that again, please.

2316
03:05:36,790 --> 03:05:39,890
Well, they're meaning kind of food meals or everything be paused.

2317
03:05:40,410 --> 03:05:45,230
So we could table this to try to see if we can find a stopgap or any way to keep these prices stagnant.

2318
03:05:45,430 --> 03:05:52,890
Because someone said, they haven't raised the price since it's COVID and I think that's pretty commendable because everything else in the world has gone up since COVID.

2319
03:05:52,890 --> 03:05:55,210
And we've kept these prices the same.

2320
03:05:56,030 --> 03:05:59,470
So if we can find a new way to keep the prices as close as we can,

2321
03:05:59,910 --> 03:06:01,190
I think we take that avenue.

2322
03:06:02,230 --> 03:06:04,710
But I just wanted to make sure if we do table it,

2323
03:06:04,790 --> 03:06:05,770
Service doesn't stop.

2324
03:06:05,970 --> 03:06:08,710
We're just so continue service until we've solved that issue, right?

2325
03:06:09,250 --> 03:06:09,530
Yes.

2326
03:06:12,360 --> 03:06:12,640
Nice to meet you.

2327
03:06:14,930 --> 03:06:15,430
Hi, Greg.

2328
03:06:15,570 --> 03:06:16,470
I'm like the one council member.

2329
03:06:17,710 --> 03:06:18,310
Councilmember Settle?

2330
03:06:18,890 --> 03:06:19,050
Yeah.

2331
03:06:19,230 --> 03:06:19,510
I agree.

2332
03:06:20,230 --> 03:06:24,110
I would support table this and try to find different avenues

2333
03:06:24,110 --> 03:06:26,950
to keep the costs as low as possible.

2334
03:06:28,930 --> 03:06:31,110
How, I guess, one question I have,

2335
03:06:31,770 --> 03:06:33,670
how soon will we be going to RFP?

2336
03:06:33,790 --> 03:06:35,110
Is there already out for RFP?

2337
03:06:35,810 --> 03:06:37,710
The RFP is currently being put together.

2338
03:06:37,830 --> 03:06:40,250
It'll go out by the end of the calendar year.

2339
03:06:41,490 --> 03:06:44,610
So we'll have a better idea sometime early next year.

2340
03:06:45,370 --> 03:06:47,430
Well, we have a contract for six months.

2341
03:06:47,450 --> 03:06:47,710
Okay.

2342
03:06:47,710 --> 03:06:48,050
We don't care.

2343
03:06:48,370 --> 03:06:49,270
That's what it took.

2344
03:06:49,270 --> 03:06:55,790
Council member, if I could maybe perhaps as a half way in between, maybe approve the up to six dollars

2345
03:06:55,790 --> 03:06:58,590
for the remainder of the six months,

2346
03:07:00,700 --> 03:07:03,660
rather than increasing that again in March, but that's just one thought.

2347
03:07:03,980 --> 03:07:08,480
Thank you for the recommendation. We ask questions. We table this with the current provider walk away.

2348
03:07:09,840 --> 03:07:16,140
No, no. We would she would not walk away. We would need to appropriate the money so that we can

2349
03:07:16,140 --> 03:07:22,140
continue to pay it her increased price. So it's not I'm not worried about the food service part of it

2350
03:07:22,140 --> 03:07:26,000
especially if you moved to appropriate the money. We would have to go back to the public hearing

2351
03:07:26,000 --> 03:07:30,160
process and so on. Can we make the motion table above? We appropriate the funds to pay for the

2352
03:07:30,160 --> 03:07:35,880
area there. Yes. Yes. We'll be the more prudent thing to deal. You can do that. Yes. Okay.

2353
03:07:36,380 --> 03:07:41,500
I just have one question. So I didn't know this was this program was open to non-Bicycle residents.

2354
03:07:41,680 --> 03:07:45,340
Do you know roughly how many people participate that on a daily or weekly basis?

2355
03:07:47,000 --> 03:07:55,440
not non-Vicellians and non-seniors, yes. So we have a Bicellier senior price and then non-Vicellier

2356
03:07:55,440 --> 03:08:04,640
senior and non-seniors. Very nominal I would say on average per week it's maybe 20 people

2357
03:08:04,640 --> 03:08:12,040
who are non-Vicellier seniors, non-Vicellier residents that utilize the program. Perfect, thank

2358
03:08:12,040 --> 03:08:16,460
you. So yeah, me personally if it's a non-Vicellier resident I would want to charge them

2359
03:08:16,460 --> 03:08:22,500
actual cost for the rest of this. For our community, you know, obviously I want them to be able

2360
03:08:22,500 --> 03:08:27,720
to do this program. This is a great program. I know my grandpa years ago participated in this

2361
03:08:27,720 --> 03:08:34,160
program and it's a great way. I mean, besides being able to get a good meal that's affordable,

2362
03:08:34,420 --> 03:08:38,960
it was a great way to stay active in the community and stay with friends. So it sounds like, you know,

2363
03:08:39,660 --> 03:08:43,700
as a council, we're wanting to wait and see what the actual cost are going to be because to me,

2364
03:08:43,700 --> 03:08:48,460
It does seem a little weird that we're raising prices when we don't know exactly what the new

2365
03:08:48,460 --> 03:08:49,540
prices are going to be.

2366
03:08:50,080 --> 03:08:54,400
But I do want to say, you know, I'm proud that the city has not raised prices since COVID.

2367
03:08:55,640 --> 03:08:57,420
It's someone who does a lot of events.

2368
03:08:58,400 --> 03:09:03,800
And with Suce, I can tell you that the cost of food is probably tripled or quadrupled in

2369
03:09:03,800 --> 03:09:04,500
the last five years.

2370
03:09:04,660 --> 03:09:08,940
So the fact that the city has maintain this program, kudos to you guys for, you know, running

2371
03:09:08,940 --> 03:09:12,580
this program and for allowing our seniors a place that community to hang out.

2372
03:09:12,580 --> 03:09:18,260
So, personally, I would like to see what the RFP is actually coming in at so we can talk

2373
03:09:18,260 --> 03:09:23,660
of real numbers, because I mean it's possible that the real numbers might come in at $15

2374
03:09:24,120 --> 03:09:25,920
a, you know, a mill, $20 a mill.

2375
03:09:26,440 --> 03:09:31,840
I mean, you got to make Donald's now, you know, a big back in 2018 bucks, so it's pretty crazy

2376
03:09:31,840 --> 03:09:32,440
what prices are.

2377
03:09:32,600 --> 03:09:36,040
So, I would like to table this item also to see what the real numbers are.

2378
03:09:36,600 --> 03:09:38,600
I would say this so, do table this.

2379
03:09:38,600 --> 03:09:43,520
I don't mind charging non-by-soluble residents and non-seniors the actual price.

2380
03:09:46,540 --> 03:09:50,140
Just include that in your motion and we can do that and appropriate the money, please.

2381
03:09:50,400 --> 03:09:51,780
So I'll go ahead and entertain an emotion.

2382
03:09:52,860 --> 03:09:53,000
All right.

2383
03:09:53,960 --> 03:09:59,960
I'll make a motion to appropriate the funds for this program to the end of the calendar year until the RFP.

2384
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:06,000
Please come back to keep prices the same towards the end of the year until we figure out what we're going to deal.

2385
03:10:06,720 --> 03:10:11,980
And then I would say charge non-vicellia residents the actual price.

2386
03:10:12,820 --> 03:10:14,580
And non-seniors are just non-vicellian.

2387
03:10:15,080 --> 03:10:17,040
I'm looking at the seniors the past of the end of the year.

2388
03:10:20,720 --> 03:10:23,480
Non-vicellia residents the actual price low down.

2389
03:10:23,860 --> 03:10:29,240
Just to clarify, the RFP will be hitting the streets by the end of the calendar year.

2390
03:10:29,240 --> 03:10:33,320
then there's another six to eight week process when we get those beds back.

2391
03:10:34,120 --> 03:10:35,300
So like February Mark?

2392
03:10:35,300 --> 03:10:36,900
Yeah, so just to do it and tell that.

2393
03:10:37,300 --> 03:10:38,900
So continue to keep this item from that.

2394
03:10:38,900 --> 03:10:41,720
Same motion, but until the RFP is returned,

2395
03:10:41,800 --> 03:10:42,600
we make a decision.

2396
03:10:42,940 --> 03:10:43,720
I love that.

2397
03:10:45,710 --> 03:10:46,890
All right, we have first and second.

2398
03:10:47,230 --> 03:10:49,970
Uh, although it's in favor, please vote and

2399
03:10:55,630 --> 03:10:56,790
the item passes five zero.

2400
03:10:57,070 --> 03:10:58,170
So thank you guys for your comment.

2401
03:10:58,370 --> 03:10:58,890
We appreciate it.

2402
03:11:00,270 --> 03:11:05,850
And you guys will be notified when the RFP does come back and we have this discussion in the future.

2403
03:11:05,850 --> 03:11:11,710
or probably be anywhere from 46 months from now, but you guys will be notified, thank you.

2404
03:11:12,930 --> 03:11:18,390
All right, next we're going to item number two, which is the city's participation as a project

2405
03:11:18,390 --> 03:11:22,870
lead and primary operator of the regional and express transit service project.

2406
03:11:46,460 --> 03:11:50,720
Well, good evening, Vice Mayor, Mayor of the Council, John Laws, Assistant City Manager for the City

2407
03:11:50,720 --> 03:11:55,100
Vice-Sally, and I'll let others introduce themselves as well.

2408
03:11:55,100 --> 03:11:59,080
Tetsmalli director to our County Association Governance.

2409
03:11:59,500 --> 03:12:01,920
Angelina Baker, Transit Manager City of Isalia.

2410
03:12:03,320 --> 03:12:06,260
And we're pleased to be before you this evening and introducing and

2411
03:12:06,620 --> 03:12:12,280
seeking the Council's support to proceed as a partner as a lead as a lead

2412
03:12:12,280 --> 03:12:13,560
partner and operator.

2413
03:12:15,600 --> 03:12:19,640
What's referred to as a cross valley corridor and we have a presentation that's been

2414
03:12:19,640 --> 03:12:22,520
prepared for you this evening in support of the staff report.

2415
03:12:23,420 --> 03:12:33,520
That was developed and so between the three of us will be answering any questions that you may have and presenting what has been several decades in the making to this evening.

2416
03:12:36,320 --> 03:12:42,120
And so maybe I'll let Mr. Smolley begin by kind of talking about the history of the crossline corner.

2417
03:12:42,640 --> 03:12:44,220
Sure, thank you.

2418
03:12:45,100 --> 03:12:53,640
So, as you know, you all are part of T-Cag and really the hub of transportation in Tweri County.

2419
03:12:54,700 --> 03:12:58,000
And a number of years ago, January it starts at a retreat.

2420
03:12:59,200 --> 03:13:01,600
We started looking at what do we do?

2421
03:13:02,660 --> 03:13:03,280
I'm so sorry.

2422
03:13:05,140 --> 03:13:08,400
I just, I'm allergic to John.

2423
03:13:09,700 --> 03:13:10,340
Thank you.

2424
03:13:10,520 --> 03:13:11,600
I had a nickel for him.

2425
03:13:13,080 --> 03:13:18,380
And that's because he's probably a Dodger fan, he's got a lot of the real series there, so that's okay.

2426
03:13:18,920 --> 03:13:20,240
I like Brian.

2427
03:13:22,240 --> 03:13:23,280
Sorry, Councilman.

2428
03:13:25,460 --> 03:13:31,620
But in all seriousness, we started looking at what do we do collectively to look out in the future

2429
03:13:32,800 --> 03:13:37,640
and that included what goes beyond our county.

2430
03:13:37,640 --> 03:13:41,580
And you guys actually are great leaders in that, right?

2431
03:13:43,500 --> 03:13:47,640
Leading to go to Fresno State, leading to go up to the National Park.

2432
03:13:47,980 --> 03:13:53,740
I realize that technically is in our county, but certainly a whole different paradigm going up there.

2433
03:13:54,420 --> 03:13:58,500
And so we started looking at what we call the Cross Valley corridor,

2434
03:14:00,380 --> 03:14:02,600
which at the very end and this scares everybody,

2435
03:14:02,600 --> 03:14:10,580
but people need to understand 35 years out, not in 20, 35, big difference, what could the future

2436
03:14:10,580 --> 03:14:18,020
look like going from Port of Bel all the way to the Navy base someday with passenger rail

2437
03:14:18,020 --> 03:14:22,660
that doesn't look like what we've seen today. So I don't know how many times I've said that

2438
03:14:22,660 --> 03:14:28,360
because everyone thinks I'm proposing Bart on that proposing Bart, not proposing the Metro and DC.

2439
03:14:28,360 --> 03:14:34,740
what I think honestly could look like in 35 years is a bus on tracks as opposed to big

2440
03:14:34,740 --> 03:14:41,140
trains. But nevertheless that vision and then with that vision and the board

2441
03:14:42,040 --> 03:14:46,960
you know it's really supporting okay how do we get there someday. It's a monumental

2442
03:14:46,960 --> 03:14:52,040
lift to get there, let alone the vision to get there in 30 years or whatever it could be

2443
03:14:52,040 --> 03:14:54,400
because we just don't know when technology will catch up.

2444
03:14:57,200 --> 03:14:59,980
So we put together.

2445
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:27,480
Our study that took a couple years. Well, it's looking at increased transit service efficiency. I'm not gonna read you, but looking at promoting development where its appropriates a So you get ridership. As an example, I think most even know there are a transit center built in farmersville and ride across the street is what I would call quality affordable housing done by self help.

2446
03:15:28,340 --> 03:15:32,560
Every transit center we are supporting or transfer center.

2447
03:15:32,600 --> 03:15:35,180
I realize there are some technicalities of what that means.

2448
03:15:35,980 --> 03:15:39,780
But nevertheless, all of them are being next built next the rail.

2449
03:15:40,900 --> 03:15:47,360
So in 20 30 years, we're not required to go by property at crazy prices.

2450
03:15:47,480 --> 03:15:52,740
Can you imagine buying your transit center in 20 years with that would cost a little

2451
03:15:52,740 --> 03:15:59,100
what would be torn down. It just makes it impossible and you see that in big cities. So part of

2452
03:15:59,100 --> 03:16:05,180
this is revitalization, economic development, and eventually connecting to what I understand

2453
03:16:05,840 --> 03:16:13,320
is very fun to discuss this high-speed rail. But again, by say it was leaders, what was that

2454
03:16:13,320 --> 03:16:18,500
10, 15 years ago saying what? It's a controversial project, but if we're not at the table,

2455
03:16:19,380 --> 03:16:22,400
And it does happen, we will be left out.

2456
03:16:23,540 --> 03:16:27,020
So again, this is keeping our options open without hurting

2457
03:16:27,600 --> 03:16:30,000
your all budget, which I'm sure we're going to get into.

2458
03:16:30,540 --> 03:16:33,980
So that leads us today, where we've completed the study.

2459
03:16:36,060 --> 03:16:38,820
When are you going to talk about the grant yet, or this first?

2460
03:16:40,180 --> 03:16:41,300
Okay, all right.

2461
03:16:41,560 --> 03:16:44,720
Well, this is the, and that's kind of still the background

2462
03:16:44,720 --> 03:16:46,940
to where we are today and before the grant.

2463
03:16:46,940 --> 03:16:59,300
But before applying for the grant, doing the necessary study, looking at what is feasible and looking at phase approach, which is essentially what the 2018 study said.

2464
03:16:59,700 --> 03:17:06,060
And I guess I should also reflect on the staff report. This wasn't the first study. This has been studied a number of different times.

2465
03:17:06,060 --> 03:17:07,460
to use it looking at that historic,

2466
03:17:09,420 --> 03:17:13,300
Samokin Valley Railroad corridor and what would this future look like?

2467
03:17:13,500 --> 03:17:16,860
There are 75 miles of high frequency regional transit.

2468
03:17:18,100 --> 03:17:20,400
I was in Porterville, this was a conversation

2469
03:17:20,400 --> 03:17:24,240
at that particular time when the rails were subject to sale,

2470
03:17:24,920 --> 03:17:26,660
and TKG stepped forward and said,

2471
03:17:26,920 --> 03:17:29,600
we need to maintain that railroad right away,

2472
03:17:30,140 --> 03:17:31,940
provided the necessary funding for that,

2473
03:17:32,060 --> 03:17:34,440
and so that that railroad right away still is established

2474
03:17:34,440 --> 03:17:39,740
that this could be extended all the way to Portoville in a future date.

2475
03:17:41,180 --> 03:17:46,820
If that had not been the case, we wouldn't be talking about Portoville being an option within

2476
03:17:46,820 --> 03:17:48,820
that in some future horizon.

2477
03:17:49,600 --> 03:17:54,200
But linking those cities from east to west across the Central Valley, with Viceria being

2478
03:17:54,200 --> 03:18:01,300
the hub of that, and this is a graphical representation that looked at Portoville to

2479
03:18:01,300 --> 03:18:11,270
on, going through NAS the more, and City of Exit, and then there was an update, I guess I would

2480
03:18:11,270 --> 03:18:17,510
say, kind of in taking that 2018 study and then in 2024 looking at a phased operations plan,

2481
03:18:18,450 --> 03:18:24,070
and with the ideal service being between NAS the more in the City of Lindsey, what that,

2482
03:18:24,650 --> 03:18:28,670
that was seen as an initial phase, and again this would be by bus service that would not

2483
03:18:28,670 --> 03:18:32,890
certainly be by rail.

2484
03:18:33,510 --> 03:18:36,130
But beginning with transit service between NS

2485
03:18:36,130 --> 03:18:37,370
the more in the city of Lindsay.

2486
03:18:39,690 --> 03:18:43,490
And just given what the opportunities are for ridership

2487
03:18:43,490 --> 03:18:47,030
as it's been evaluated, that initial service

2488
03:18:47,030 --> 03:18:49,890
is proposed between the Farmersville Transit Center,

2489
03:18:50,130 --> 03:18:52,390
which is currently the shelves of it constructed

2490
03:18:52,390 --> 03:18:54,910
in right now TKE is working with additional funding

2491
03:18:54,910 --> 03:18:57,650
to support the finishing of that center.

2492
03:18:57,650 --> 03:19:07,350
and then to NES the more. There have been some obstacles of extending between Hanford

2493
03:19:07,350 --> 03:19:12,770
and Lamor because Cart is a member. There's a reciprocal agency that's working in this

2494
03:19:12,770 --> 03:19:21,890
as well from the King's County side. Resistance to that initially at first because it's a

2495
03:19:21,890 --> 03:19:27,470
the equivalent, I would say, a route one to Bicellia, the money, you know, is one of their

2496
03:19:27,470 --> 03:19:34,230
highest ridership routes serving any of us the more, but wanting, but recently recognizing

2497
03:19:34,230 --> 03:19:39,370
as you said, the bigger picture and receptive to having the service code to go to the

2498
03:19:39,370 --> 03:19:39,530
more.

2499
03:19:40,230 --> 03:19:45,710
And as the council is aware, this has been an interest of any of us the more, in fact, they've

2500
03:19:45,710 --> 03:19:49,590
kind of checked on with us to say, you know, when are we going to have that opportunity

2501
03:19:49,590 --> 03:19:55,150
of connection for both transit between any of us little more and the city by say given so many

2502
03:19:55,150 --> 03:19:59,910
of the residents or personnel of the base.

2503
03:20:06,660 --> 03:20:19,120
So the route details of that were 30 minute frequencies operating, and this is from the plan. Five a.m. to 11 p.m. one way run times of 120 minutes. Again, this was looking at Lindsey initially.

2504
03:20:19,120 --> 03:20:28,600
transit center is New Transit Center is an Exeter Farmersville Hanford and Lindsay, New Transfer Station in the Industrial and the Industrial Park and then

2505
03:20:28,600 --> 03:20:32,140
given that state funding is involved zero mission vehicles.

2506
03:20:32,540 --> 03:20:35,380
That being either battery electric or hydrogen fuel cell.

2507
03:20:36,720 --> 03:20:38,480
Do we have any anticipation of that?

2508
03:20:38,480 --> 03:20:40,840
Those regulations being held back any moment?

2509
03:20:41,440 --> 03:20:44,900
I know last we talked you said no, but just curious if that's.

2510
03:20:44,900 --> 03:20:45,960
On zero mission?

2511
03:20:45,960 --> 03:20:51,260
Yeah, well, they've been numbers the phases that we were trying to meet within a certain timeframe.

2512
03:20:51,700 --> 03:21:02,940
That's a good question because carbs in the middle, it's a great question because they have made almost essentially a three year postponement.

2513
03:21:03,620 --> 03:21:06,960
But they didn't finish the job because there were two options.

2514
03:21:06,980 --> 03:21:11,020
There was milestone and then model year.

2515
03:21:11,020 --> 03:21:19,700
They've changed the model year, but didn't change the milestone, which the milestone used to be the most flexible of more than the model year,

2516
03:21:20,160 --> 03:21:28,900
but then they made the model year now more flexible by extending it for three years, but didn't take an account for the milestone.

2517
03:21:30,340 --> 03:21:40,000
So now they're having, and we've pressed this with the league, I know that Vice Mayor Wynn is working through it on the air district because it was really just missed, as I would say,

2518
03:21:40,000 --> 03:21:43,980
And so there's a coordinated effort to try to reconcile that

2519
03:21:43,980 --> 03:21:47,380
so that there's additional flexibility, at least by three years.

2520
03:21:48,440 --> 03:21:51,540
But right now, that's under the grant requirements.

2521
03:21:56,520 --> 03:22:00,780
So again, this is what it was talking about as the phase from Lindsey

2522
03:22:00,780 --> 03:22:05,880
to Annayah Somor, and this has been brought back to Farmersville.

2523
03:22:06,440 --> 03:22:10,200
Lindsey is in the throws of designing a transit center right now.

2524
03:22:10,200 --> 03:22:18,620
I think there are like 30% design, but so ultimately in some time frame that could be looking

2525
03:22:18,620 --> 03:22:23,060
at as an extension to that, but again, ridership is going to depend a lot on that.

2526
03:22:23,900 --> 03:22:28,340
And right now, generally that ridership is in the viso area to any of some more.

2527
03:22:31,180 --> 03:22:35,560
And so this is kind of showing in a representation of what these phases would look like from

2528
03:22:35,560 --> 03:22:35,920
that.

2529
03:22:35,920 --> 03:22:38,820
So phase one actually is already in place.

2530
03:22:38,840 --> 03:22:43,100
This is cart, which is right now providing service

2531
03:22:43,100 --> 03:22:46,760
from the Hanford Amtrak station to the VISA transit center.

2532
03:22:46,920 --> 03:22:49,500
A trips a day with stops at COS, Korea Health,

2533
03:22:49,800 --> 03:22:50,960
and VISA transit center.

2534
03:22:52,320 --> 03:22:59,720
It envisioned this year that VISA transit would match the cart service.

2535
03:22:59,960 --> 03:23:03,920
So essentially there would be two operators providing that same,

2536
03:23:03,920 --> 03:23:09,000
those same stops going back and forth between the Hanford

2537
03:23:09,000 --> 03:23:12,520
Amtrak station to, I say, a transit center,

2538
03:23:12,740 --> 03:23:14,380
back and forth in 30 minute intervals.

2539
03:23:15,020 --> 03:23:17,580
There were buses that were programmed in an

2540
03:23:17,580 --> 03:23:19,480
grant and I'll speak to this.

2541
03:23:21,000 --> 03:23:22,660
But even by admission.

2542
03:23:23,680 --> 03:23:25,820
So because of the range of electric buses

2543
03:23:25,820 --> 03:23:28,380
cannot make this an entire cycle,

2544
03:23:28,380 --> 03:23:32,520
that was why you would need two buses to meet one

2545
03:23:32,520 --> 03:23:36,660
and which with the systems of T-Cag we looked okay so that's not a and there's not

2546
03:23:36,660 --> 03:23:42,040
supporting infrastructure. As we said today there's not electrical infrastructure to charge

2547
03:23:42,040 --> 03:23:49,440
electric buses in in hamford. So it's not even a feasible option to have zero mission buses

2548
03:23:49,440 --> 03:23:58,400
running right now. So looking at using CNG and so T-Cag it come up with a solution programming

2549
03:23:58,400 --> 03:24:04,760
solution of buying a CNG bus that would provide that distance and provide that same service.

2550
03:24:05,440 --> 03:24:06,460
Is that fair?

2551
03:24:07,100 --> 03:24:07,260
Yeah.

2552
03:24:08,400 --> 03:24:08,780
Look into it.

2553
03:24:10,360 --> 03:24:11,320
These are the experts.

2554
03:24:11,520 --> 03:24:12,320
I'm going to give it to you.

2555
03:24:12,860 --> 03:24:17,460
And then into one C, and this is kind of where we, so one B is in pause right now.

2556
03:24:18,620 --> 03:24:22,640
Given that there isn't the infrastructure to support electric buses, so coming up with

2557
03:24:22,640 --> 03:24:31,100
solution of looking at using a CNG bus to achieve that currently.

2558
03:24:31,960 --> 03:24:37,740
And then phase one, C, is really where we get to the meat of this.

2559
03:24:38,620 --> 03:24:43,940
Cross Valley Express Service between Hanford and Farmersville extending with 14 stops.

2560
03:24:44,320 --> 03:24:51,600
And again, this is where kind of the cross valley corridor kind of has two intersecting express

2561
03:24:51,600 --> 03:24:56,800
plus service. One, between farmers with a hand food, and one, between

2562
03:24:56,800 --> 03:24:59,920
Toyota Transit Center and the Bicelia Transit Center. I'm Mooney Boulevard.

2563
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:07,820
Ideally, to be within 15 minute intervals, and then 30 minute intervals, going between farmersville and NSW.

2564
03:25:09,900 --> 03:25:13,960
And it is a goal. I want to be very clear to say, it is a goal to have that running in

2565
03:25:13,960 --> 03:25:19,000
28, 28. But it's more important. It's kind of the funding that's been secured.

2566
03:25:19,180 --> 03:25:21,200
And we'll talk a little bit in your staff report about that.

2567
03:25:21,200 --> 03:25:28,560
John on phase one beating chance to get a stop at the industrial park on I don't know

2568
03:25:28,560 --> 03:25:30,060
Stop at the industrial park

2569
03:25:32,370 --> 03:25:36,950
I get people coming from surrounding communities or that's going to be a major hub for employment

2570
03:25:37,690 --> 03:25:41,410
I would say it in that phase. Yes

2571
03:25:42,430 --> 03:25:46,750
Where and I guess this kind of gets to where we see CLS

2572
03:25:46,750 --> 03:25:55,170
Quea health I sell your transit center, but if we get a stop at I mean that's one of our major hubs in our community and that draws from all surrounding communities from

2573
03:25:55,770 --> 03:26:00,370
more all the way to Porterville. I think it'd be interesting to see if we could get a stop right around there.

2574
03:26:00,590 --> 03:26:08,330
In this is a great question that kind of said, you know, this was as a plan and vision and tried to capture in the staff report this that

2575
03:26:09,850 --> 03:26:18,650
as as the opportunities present themselves to be able to make adjustments to make adjustments to that and to that point.

2576
03:26:18,650 --> 03:26:26,630
And that could be in 20, you know, with, we talked about the dosenters potential reuse as an employee.

2577
03:26:27,130 --> 03:26:34,630
It's not an option today because it's still in use, but if that transitions and is available in 27, that could be added as a potential as a potential.

2578
03:26:34,630 --> 03:26:42,970
Just being the largest industrial park probably in this region, I think it would be, be who was, is making a stop there, because then we can pull employment from all different communities.

2579
03:26:42,970 --> 03:26:51,130
So, right, and with this gets into a reimagination study that of transit, that Angelina

2580
03:26:51,130 --> 03:26:58,090
will be leading, looking at how, you know, what are more efficient means of operating

2581
03:26:58,090 --> 03:27:04,050
fixed, fixed route with the incorporation of microtransit, flex transit, these sorts of

2582
03:27:04,050 --> 03:27:11,130
things, which are, and just envisioning out there that you could have, and with our partnership

2583
03:27:11,130 --> 03:27:15,610
with Calvans, so you have van pools, serving the industrial park, we've already seen in

2584
03:27:15,610 --> 03:27:20,910
microtransit, as an example, Amazon is one of the major destination points of microtransit,

2585
03:27:21,010 --> 03:27:26,930
so are there opportunities to build a microtransit van pool of all, you know, kind of look

2586
03:27:26,930 --> 03:27:32,690
at, and Ted has been talking about, you know, I'd be happy to champion some pilot type things

2587
03:27:32,690 --> 03:27:39,690
to see, you know, how, how does this best serve local residents and necessary workforce

2588
03:27:39,690 --> 03:27:40,970
for the industrial part.

2589
03:27:41,510 --> 03:27:45,350
Phase one, if you will have driverless advancing us all over the place by the Nantet?

2590
03:27:45,610 --> 03:27:45,950
All right.

2591
03:27:49,710 --> 03:27:53,490
So, capital infrastructure is pretty significant.

2592
03:27:54,650 --> 03:28:00,210
Transit terminals and charging infrastructure, transit stop facilities, shelters,

2593
03:28:00,870 --> 03:28:05,530
street improvements, wayfinding, you know, signage, traffic signal priority,

2594
03:28:05,530 --> 03:28:12,590
in intelligent transportation systems and in zero-mission vehicles, trans-insignal

2595
03:28:12,590 --> 03:28:16,690
priority and I'll speak, I was listening to Chris and his earlier presentation.

2596
03:28:16,950 --> 03:28:22,210
He said a lot of things, hopefully you still kind of remember about cost of projects and

2597
03:28:22,210 --> 03:28:28,630
what is somebody's program oversight and the personnel, so we'll get into some big numbers

2598
03:28:28,630 --> 03:28:28,890
here.

2599
03:28:29,230 --> 03:28:34,990
But traffic signal priority and intelligent transportation systems, Mooney Boulevard, when

2600
03:28:34,990 --> 03:28:43,710
was rehabilitated, they now call it a intelligent highway. So there was fiber that was installed

2601
03:28:43,710 --> 03:28:53,470
in it, so it's at a very high technological corridor. And I'll be curious to hear if they continue

2602
03:28:53,470 --> 03:29:01,430
with that through downtown on Locust and Court. But in large part, this is greatly assisted

2603
03:29:02,070 --> 03:29:06,250
and being able to do intelligent traffic systems,

2604
03:29:06,350 --> 03:29:07,530
a log-moony boulevard.

2605
03:29:08,250 --> 03:29:10,010
And I want to be important to say something,

2606
03:29:10,790 --> 03:29:12,450
because sometimes you're used interchangeably.

2607
03:29:12,630 --> 03:29:18,410
So there's traffic priority, and then there's traffic preemption.

2608
03:29:18,850 --> 03:29:20,670
So preemption means it changes it,

2609
03:29:20,690 --> 03:29:24,150
and that's your public safety vehicles, fire trucks,

2610
03:29:24,290 --> 03:29:28,470
place cars, they have the ability with a signal to change it.

2611
03:29:28,470 --> 03:29:31,510
or allows them to move, and it will change all the signals

2612
03:29:31,510 --> 03:29:33,490
for the priority of that.

2613
03:29:33,790 --> 03:29:35,570
This is preempted.

2614
03:29:35,690 --> 03:29:37,990
Priority just means that we're just trying to make sure

2615
03:29:37,990 --> 03:29:39,830
that the traffic flows so that it can keep it

2616
03:29:39,830 --> 03:29:41,230
schedule that it has.

2617
03:29:41,450 --> 03:29:43,950
And so that gets to the traffic management system

2618
03:29:43,950 --> 03:29:45,650
that's guiding it.

2619
03:29:49,030 --> 03:29:52,510
So the financial plan estimated at 70 million

2620
03:29:52,510 --> 03:29:53,750
in capital infrastructure.

2621
03:29:54,330 --> 03:29:56,090
And I guess I would, as this, a good transition

2622
03:29:56,090 --> 03:29:56,770
to the money.

2623
03:29:58,630 --> 03:29:59,970
So, so with this in mind.

2624
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:04,760
And maybe you want to talk about what that looked like for you?

2625
03:30:05,020 --> 03:30:13,860
Sure, so a couple of things have occurred, and I would just say this is an order to find this kind

2626
03:30:13,860 --> 03:30:20,600
of money for the city of Bicellia for trance, and it would take T-Cag 20 to 25 years. We just,

2627
03:30:20,900 --> 03:30:28,360
somewhere, we don't have extra trance of money. So that's the order of magnitude we're looking at.

2628
03:30:28,360 --> 03:30:38,240
But we've done two things, one we were able to get a statewide competitive grant, and that was over $50 million.

2629
03:30:38,900 --> 03:30:49,100
Plus we had state 125 transfer money and SB 743 mitigation. So what we looked at, what's the best place to put that

2630
03:30:50,080 --> 03:30:56,460
in transit. And it's no surprise that the urban center of

2631
03:30:56,460 --> 03:31:04,920
Icya is a heavy investment location for that. But we also had to look

2632
03:31:04,920 --> 03:31:09,860
at how do we make sure this doesn't put Icya in a weird

2633
03:31:09,860 --> 03:31:14,620
predicament one year from now. If you've seen other places, a lot of

2634
03:31:14,620 --> 03:31:17,320
things are done. We'll give you the capital and good luck figuring

2635
03:31:17,320 --> 03:31:22,980
out the operations. That's not where we're at. I think you saw that with micro-transit. We're

2636
03:31:22,980 --> 03:31:31,360
paying for a three-year pilot program because we don't believe in doing that. We hate when the

2637
03:31:31,360 --> 03:31:37,680
government does that to us and gives us mandates. So this is what we structure. I'm not going to

2638
03:31:37,680 --> 03:31:45,420
go through all the exact numbers, but look at how big the numbers are. And we are TKACs already proved

2639
03:31:45,420 --> 03:31:53,620
unanimously to move forward. So three years of operations to test this, figure out how to get

2640
03:31:53,620 --> 03:32:00,400
the kinks out of fuel and give us a transition to look at how do we take over the operations.

2641
03:32:01,280 --> 03:32:05,100
And so there's a lot of grants, there's a lot of different authorities.

2642
03:32:07,760 --> 03:32:13,380
But we've been very successful and I think what's before you is a significant amount of

2643
03:32:13,380 --> 03:32:18,340
operations money that front loads for you all, are you?

2644
03:32:18,340 --> 03:32:21,780
Can I talk about how we're floating it for the, all right.

2645
03:32:22,380 --> 03:32:25,620
So as an example, we're floating to capital.

2646
03:32:26,140 --> 03:32:30,120
And I suppose, let's say we want to be pessimistic

2647
03:32:30,120 --> 03:32:33,880
or negative and say high-speed rail fell apart.

2648
03:32:35,480 --> 03:32:39,520
That would not leave you with anything that's unusable.

2649
03:32:39,520 --> 03:32:49,000
All right, and I'm not, I'm not trying to make Judge head about high speed rail, but it hasn't been quite on time.

2650
03:32:49,300 --> 03:32:50,180
What's delivery?

2651
03:32:50,580 --> 03:32:51,760
It was agreed to.

2652
03:32:52,460 --> 03:32:55,280
So, it could be 2035.

2653
03:32:55,560 --> 03:32:58,000
I don't know when it's actually open.

2654
03:32:59,680 --> 03:33:03,600
So, we structured this to make sure all the capitals done, right?

2655
03:33:03,600 --> 03:33:07,240
So, for me, personally, and I love advice, I hate to.

2656
03:33:07,640 --> 03:33:11,240
The idea that we can do pre-emption and priority.

2657
03:33:13,500 --> 03:33:15,500
We can save people's lives and help transit,

2658
03:33:17,020 --> 03:33:20,980
and that's a big chunk of this.

2659
03:33:21,620 --> 03:33:25,000
You're under mandate to go to alternative fuels.

2660
03:33:25,520 --> 03:33:28,320
We've got a big chunk of this to pay for it.

2661
03:33:29,280 --> 03:33:31,720
You don't get this.

2662
03:33:31,720 --> 03:33:39,680
the money to do it. As your staff are rightfully telling you, everyone that makes it over-simplified

2663
03:33:39,680 --> 03:33:47,180
that works in Sacramento. It's not so simple to do alternative fuels. It's not so simple distances

2664
03:33:47,180 --> 03:33:54,320
and making all this work. And so we've been working in John and Angelina and I think there's a good

2665
03:33:54,320 --> 03:34:12,080
way out here. So I would just say this, a ton of money is put into capital, right? And that's all money that you get to keep all those capital improvements of other stuff, didn't wind up.

2666
03:34:12,400 --> 03:34:20,960
Or let's say for whatever reason, and I hope that certainly not the case, the five squadrons get delayed 10 years going to the Navy base.

2667
03:34:20,960 --> 03:34:22,820
I doubt that will occur.

2668
03:34:23,720 --> 03:34:29,440
So, in other words, I think in partnership what we're bringing you before you is a good investment

2669
03:34:29,440 --> 03:34:37,740
that lets you be a leader that helps protect you from going down the way God forbid,

2670
03:34:39,140 --> 03:34:43,460
you having a structure like that in Fresno that you drive under all the time.

2671
03:34:44,780 --> 03:34:46,440
That's not usable yet.

2672
03:34:47,760 --> 03:34:53,260
signal preemption, signal priority will be used day one.

2673
03:34:56,320 --> 03:34:59,980
The, all the charging would be able to be used, and we say

2674
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:07,280
We certainly encourage co-use, right, as technology changes whatever that co-use is, absolutely.

2675
03:35:07,940 --> 03:35:14,040
Let's figure out how to do it. So, a big win. So, I just can't encourage you enough.

2676
03:35:14,900 --> 03:35:19,380
I don't know how in the world to get to this kind of money for these kind of improvements.

2677
03:35:21,000 --> 03:35:26,920
Again, right, we fought for you guys and probably should have had some more workshops ahead

2678
03:35:26,920 --> 03:35:32,620
of time, but we're here today, and this is a huge win for VISAIA.

2679
03:35:33,620 --> 03:35:37,540
And I think the important note and it's been Ted's commitment, as you see, the kind

2680
03:35:37,540 --> 03:35:42,700
of the cost breakdown, essentially 49 million in designing construction of capital improvements,

2681
03:35:42,700 --> 03:35:45,600
and then, you know, a part of 20 million in zero mission.

2682
03:35:45,960 --> 03:35:49,280
If it, if it's 60 million in capital improvements,

2683
03:35:49,880 --> 03:35:52,160
there's other funding sources for buses, as he just said.

2684
03:35:52,220 --> 03:35:56,460
We'll find other avenues for transit buses.

2685
03:35:57,220 --> 03:35:59,180
It's harder to get capital improvements.

2686
03:35:59,300 --> 03:36:01,920
So the focus of this would be,

2687
03:36:02,060 --> 03:36:04,140
in making plan amendments over time, if necessary,

2688
03:36:05,500 --> 03:36:07,580
to get the capital done right,

2689
03:36:08,440 --> 03:36:10,260
because that, that will have length to it.

2690
03:36:10,260 --> 03:36:15,260
buses are replaceable and other funding that can be secured to support that.

2691
03:36:16,680 --> 03:36:25,960
And as Ted talked about, you know, money advanced ahead of time and making sure that there is sufficient funding for to get service done as the pilot.

2692
03:36:27,280 --> 03:36:31,120
Again, this is just an overview. There's been essentially three different funding sources.

2693
03:37:00,840 --> 03:37:01,100
there was a, what was called the cycle five of the

2694
03:37:01,100 --> 03:37:07,540
out of that. Again, those would be monies that in all likelihood will be converted into capital for electrification.

2695
03:37:08,940 --> 03:37:16,000
State, and then the larger one, is Ted reference, was the 59 million in Tursup, which was in

2696
03:37:16,000 --> 03:37:22,360
the cycle 7. And again, I put the grant funds in there. So these were awarded,

2697
03:37:27,660 --> 03:37:28,820
if you go to Tursup,

2698
03:37:28,820 --> 03:37:37,480
by 3132 and that's small, that's the small portion of it to the city of Icellia, of greater

2699
03:37:37,480 --> 03:37:44,720
emphasis is the 30 fiscal year 3334 which would be needy be expenditure funds by then and

2700
03:37:44,720 --> 03:37:47,640
these are on the construction of the improvements.

2701
03:37:48,080 --> 03:37:54,100
So when you saw 2028 that's a goal, this is the more, this is the more, as you heard Chris

2702
03:37:54,100 --> 03:37:57,740
earlier talk about, you know, what are the timelines for grants and ensuring that you

2703
03:37:57,740 --> 03:38:03,820
have your expenditures done, that's in fiscal year 3334, it's a 10 year grant essentially.

2704
03:38:06,770 --> 03:38:12,110
And then for the operation side, SB 125 transit and Senate Bill 743 mitigation funds,

2705
03:38:12,330 --> 03:38:21,130
which came from the highway winding on 99 and the interchange at page mitigation funds for operations.

2706
03:38:23,370 --> 03:38:28,250
And so again, the priority capital infrastructure, signal priority and street improvements

2707
03:38:28,250 --> 03:38:35,190
estimated at 12.4 million construction contractor, and that's kind of interesting how this

2708
03:38:35,190 --> 03:38:39,990
is broken out, but essentially there's 40, that's how the 49 million goes to construction,

2709
03:38:40,650 --> 03:38:47,070
both playing for soft costs and design and how the difference, how the grants can split up

2710
03:38:47,070 --> 03:38:47,470
accordingly.

2711
03:38:50,440 --> 03:38:57,140
I use the CVX signal prioritization, and you'll see a special study area at

2712
03:38:57,140 --> 03:38:59,480
moony boulevard and minroking and noble.

2713
03:39:00,060 --> 03:39:01,940
That's going to end you have, so you have 1.98,

2714
03:39:02,380 --> 03:39:04,360
you have moony boulevard, and you have to this.

2715
03:39:04,500 --> 03:39:07,220
And that will be a, that is going to be a trick.

2716
03:39:07,600 --> 03:39:08,300
That's for sure.

2717
03:39:09,120 --> 03:39:11,520
It's going to require a lot of coordination

2718
03:39:11,520 --> 03:39:13,840
with count trans and ensuring that the flow of traffic

2719
03:39:13,840 --> 03:39:16,000
continues to intersect.

2720
03:39:16,800 --> 03:39:19,460
And so that will be special.

2721
03:39:19,720 --> 03:39:22,720
But if you look, you can see here coming off binmatics

2722
03:39:23,300 --> 03:39:24,840
in the signals that are there,

2723
03:39:24,840 --> 03:39:28,320
that will be traffic signals there, and you can kind of see

2724
03:39:28,320 --> 03:39:32,840
as that picks up through downtown down over to mineral king.

2725
03:39:33,100 --> 03:39:35,060
And you'll see intersections of these two

2726
03:39:35,060 --> 03:39:38,940
between the bus driver transit from Tolerary and the Cross Valley Express

2727
03:39:38,940 --> 03:39:40,700
to NAS some more.

2728
03:39:40,840 --> 03:39:44,160
Intersections at the Transit Center, Intersections at Quia Health,

2729
03:39:44,460 --> 03:39:46,380
and Intersections at COS.

2730
03:39:47,640 --> 03:39:50,680
One of the chances we can make buses take Avenue

2731
03:39:50,680 --> 03:39:52,980
and use some of these funds to fix OCA Avenue.

2732
03:39:54,600 --> 03:39:56,240
Sounds like a great idea.

2733
03:39:58,220 --> 03:39:59,640
Actually, Ted would say this.

2734
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:10,940
With this in those capital costs, I mean, that is really to try to figure out how to do more, what has length to it, and we'll have a lasting improvement.

2735
03:40:11,960 --> 03:40:14,020
So that's a great, great thought.

2736
03:40:17,660 --> 03:40:23,640
But by responding to that, I would definitely say two as we're looking at different things.

2737
03:40:23,640 --> 03:40:29,840
We can certainly look at quote and quote the phase two and things to be added on.

2738
03:40:31,100 --> 03:40:36,420
Because it's always amazing what you get momentum and we start doing this.

2739
03:40:36,720 --> 03:40:41,220
How much more we're going to be successful in getting more money.

2740
03:40:42,320 --> 03:40:47,260
And so I would never take things off the table yet even if they're doing it for me.

2741
03:40:47,260 --> 03:40:48,360
We always like getting more money.

2742
03:40:48,920 --> 03:40:50,440
Yeah, there you go.

2743
03:40:52,640 --> 03:41:09,440
So, from an implementation standpoint, there's a number of agreements that will, with your approval this evening would begin drafting, some of them already are in preliminary forms, but a cooperative agreement will need to be implemented between

2744
03:41:09,440 --> 03:41:13,140
and the city given 75% of the improvements are on

2745
03:41:13,140 --> 03:41:14,260
CalTrans right away.

2746
03:41:14,920 --> 03:41:16,940
So the city would serve as the project lead with

2747
03:41:16,940 --> 03:41:18,420
CalTrans providing oversight.

2748
03:41:19,760 --> 03:41:22,200
A number of MOUs, one for capital

2749
03:41:22,200 --> 03:41:25,080
Development between the city and T.K.

2750
03:41:25,380 --> 03:41:27,040
Operations between city T.K.

2751
03:41:27,480 --> 03:41:29,720
T.C.R.T.A. plays a role in connecting

2752
03:41:29,720 --> 03:41:30,740
Outline communities.

2753
03:41:31,400 --> 03:41:34,140
And I would imagine they'll play a role on the

2754
03:41:34,140 --> 03:41:36,360
Bus Rapid Transit on Mooney Boulevard as well,

2755
03:41:36,480 --> 03:41:38,440
given that we'll be intersecting

2756
03:41:38,440 --> 03:41:44,760
with the City of Tolerary, just as cart is as we're intersecting with Hanford and NAS the more.

2757
03:41:45,080 --> 03:41:50,880
State grant funding, Cal Trans, the City and T-Cag, T-Cag funding.

2758
03:41:50,880 --> 03:41:54,480
The City gets SB 125 use of funds.

2759
03:41:56,300 --> 03:42:01,740
Again, I want to emphasize that design engineering construction of capital improvements is the priority of this,

2760
03:42:01,980 --> 03:42:05,160
and then secondarily zero mission vehicle procurement.

2761
03:42:07,620 --> 03:42:13,360
List of examples of all the different agencies that are involved in this and some fashion.

2762
03:42:13,600 --> 03:42:23,320
California State Transportation Agency, they are the overriding financier, implemented and monitored by Caltrans.

2763
03:42:24,720 --> 03:42:33,140
T-Cag was the applying agency by study of transit and city by study of would serve as the lead

2764
03:42:33,800 --> 03:42:37,500
implementer of project implementer and then operator.

2765
03:42:38,560 --> 03:42:44,320
Claire kind of regional transit agency would be a connecting agency and support as well as

2766
03:42:44,320 --> 03:42:50,420
So I'm looking at value, power is authority is M track and so when we talk about other funding

2767
03:42:50,420 --> 03:42:56,560
opportunities will be, this is one that will be in play and then certainly the California

2768
03:42:56,560 --> 03:42:57,880
high speed rail authority.

2769
03:42:59,100 --> 03:43:03,700
Not on here yet, it is NES the more and there's been some preliminary conversations

2770
03:43:03,700 --> 03:43:07,420
that Ted and I have had is, what does that look like on the base?

2771
03:43:08,280 --> 03:43:13,220
I mean, we don't have anything here really talking about that, well that'll be military that

2772
03:43:13,220 --> 03:43:15,580
will be milk on money, that will go to that.

2773
03:43:15,660 --> 03:43:17,420
They'll be doing a specific to their standards.

2774
03:43:18,300 --> 03:43:22,300
And so those are improvements understood to be separate

2775
03:43:22,300 --> 03:43:27,080
and another funding source coming to the table in that.

2776
03:43:27,920 --> 03:43:30,860
So the staff recommendation is to approve.

2777
03:43:30,860 --> 03:43:32,560
Council approve the city's participation

2778
03:43:32,560 --> 03:43:34,520
in the regional Express Transit Project,

2779
03:43:34,520 --> 03:43:37,040
serving as the project lead and primary services operator.

2780
03:43:37,780 --> 03:43:39,020
Approved the drafts for a solution,

2781
03:43:39,360 --> 03:43:41,840
authorized in the city manager to execute the Caltrans Master

2782
03:43:41,840 --> 03:43:46,560
agreement and program supplement for first of funding and authorized city manager draft necessary

2783
03:43:46,560 --> 03:43:51,880
agreements with Caltrans, TKG and TCRJ with approval to form a city attorney to be returned

2784
03:43:51,880 --> 03:43:54,460
to the city council for final approval.

2785
03:43:55,100 --> 03:43:55,280
Happening.

2786
03:43:55,560 --> 03:43:56,540
Answer any questions?

2787
03:43:57,400 --> 03:43:57,500
All right.

2788
03:43:57,680 --> 03:43:58,200
Thank you.

2789
03:43:58,400 --> 03:43:59,820
Any questions for staff?

2790
03:44:01,340 --> 03:44:01,980
Any questions?

2791
03:44:02,780 --> 03:44:03,200
Angelina.

2792
03:44:03,400 --> 03:44:03,960
Do you want to say anything?

2793
03:44:04,080 --> 03:44:05,240
You're ready to run this all over.

2794
03:44:05,400 --> 03:44:05,560
All right.

2795
03:44:05,720 --> 03:44:06,560
I was like, jump in any journey.

2796
03:44:06,560 --> 03:44:08,480
I have a lot of responsibility coming your way.

2797
03:44:08,480 --> 03:44:11,420
I'm, he's the face, I'm just the work.

2798
03:44:13,980 --> 03:44:15,140
Not a great face.

2799
03:44:15,700 --> 03:44:17,020
You just get out of the program.

2800
03:44:17,360 --> 03:44:17,960
Just like that.

2801
03:44:18,300 --> 03:44:19,700
The secret's out now.

2802
03:44:20,700 --> 03:44:21,040
All right.

2803
03:44:21,320 --> 03:44:22,380
There's no other questions.

2804
03:44:22,540 --> 03:44:23,820
We'll guide you up in the subject of public.

2805
03:44:25,220 --> 03:44:26,660
Any other questions to speak?

2806
03:44:27,220 --> 03:44:29,420
Seeing nobody, we'll close public comments.

2807
03:44:30,480 --> 03:44:31,840
And I will entertain a motion.

2808
03:44:32,660 --> 03:44:33,660
Dr. Reed, the whole thing.

2809
03:44:35,700 --> 03:44:38,580
I'm going to go to the short version.

2810
03:44:38,800 --> 03:44:39,280
I'll second.

2811
03:44:40,960 --> 03:44:42,780
All right, we have a person's second to approve.

2812
03:44:43,640 --> 03:44:44,360
Please vote.

2813
03:44:48,460 --> 03:44:49,760
That one I saw as long as I can.

2814
03:44:54,840 --> 03:44:56,520
All right, nine and passes, five zero.

2815
03:44:56,640 --> 03:44:57,460
Thank you very much.

2816
03:44:57,900 --> 03:44:58,300
Thank you.

2817
03:44:58,380 --> 03:44:59,960
We always appreciate your Ted bringing us.

2818
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:07,340
More projects in our community, so thank you. All right, we're going to go ahead and adjourn our meeting today in the closest report.

2819
03:45:07,740 --> 03:45:12,140
Nothing report this evening. Thank you very much. Well, adjourned until our next meeting. Thank you.