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To discuss them.

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Table 2 917.

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Anything else.

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No OK.

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Do I have a second.

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Yes poll question.

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All those in favor.

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Motion carries.

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Next consent agenda.

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Anything you want to remove.

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We don't have 86 minutes yet.

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We can't approve the abatement
one, because that was just.

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That was before I was here.

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So it needs you and
Tim to table that one.

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But I move.

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We approve the
minutes from 716 2026.

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I have a second question.

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All those in favor.

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Motion carries.

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2027 budget request 10 I'm going
to table that until commissioner

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Parker gets here.

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Is that his name.

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Yes OK.

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Sorry why did I finish it.

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I don't know.

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All right.

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We're going to wait on
that one public comment.

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Let's just go to public comment.

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What have we got.

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Anybody yep Mr. Bush.

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Good morning, Eric Bush.

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I have four items
I want to touch on.

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One is the formation of the
finance advisory committee.

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And just to confirm
that the committee is

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subject to the same
open meeting laws

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that affect the
commission itself,

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and therefore the membership has
not been reported officially.

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Meetings have not been
posted, no agendas or minutes

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have been produced, and
the charge to the committee

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has not yet been established.

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All of those things
need to happen.

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Audits the 22 audit was
completed in late February.

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The 23 audit was
completed June the 4th.

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Neither has been presented
in a public forum,

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which is really a requirement.

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The auditors ultimately have a
responsibility to the community

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and to the taxpayers to
assure the financial health

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of the County.

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It's not enough that they just
have a conversation with you

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across the room.

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So it needs to be publicly
presented somehow.

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Third department head and
commission staff performance

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reviews.

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I've submitted two FOIA
requests and still have

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not gotten a straight answer.

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So since January 1, 2025, when
commissioners Kelly and Parker

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took office, have the
commissioners conducted

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formal performance
reviews of the nine

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department heads and
three commission staff

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that report to you.

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That responsibility rests
with the commissioners,

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since in this County,
all of those individuals

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report directly to the
commission will not be done.

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And finally, the
2027 budget after,

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I think we'd have to acknowledge
a most unsatisfactory 3, 2026

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budget process that took
seven months to complete

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and resulted in a 15% increase.

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I expected that would result
in some real belt tightening

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this year, but it hasn't.

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Preliminary estimate if I
heard correctly on the tape

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that I listened to over.

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The last meeting,
estimates suggest

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handing off to the
Budget Committee

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a budget proposal
with a 22% increase.

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That's just not realistic.

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The budget should also
be posted on the website.

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So as it's given to
the Budget Committee,

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the public has the
right to know what

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as commissioners have
proposed to them before they

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go through their process.

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And one specific thing
I just wanted to notice

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has to do with special
appropriations.

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Earlier this year,
in the last process

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I wrote that the County
needed to determine

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whether in three minutes.

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Can I just finish this
up real quick, please.

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Thank you.

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The County needs to
determine whether it's

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in the business of supporting
community organizations.

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And if it is to define what
specifically it will consider

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funding and what it won't.

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And once decided that
opportunity has to be made

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known to all qualifying
nonprofits in Waldo County.

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It's not enough
just to wait and see

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who happens to figure out,
oh, I can apply to the County

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for this.

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If you're in that business,
then you have a responsibility

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to make the community more
broadly aware that they can

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apply if they fall
into the guidelines

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that you should
have established.

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But I don't believe
at this point.

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And as there's 12,500in
this year's budget.

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And because of what I've just
said, you've got requests

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for $132,000 this year.

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So thank you.

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That needs to be.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Any other comments.

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Can we get an answer for him on
the performance review so that

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it's actually 6 and not
9:00 because they're elected

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officials.

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Elected officials don't.

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The human resources
handbook does

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not apply to elected officials.

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It is 6.

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It's a work in progress.

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Thank you.

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Any other comments.

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Are you saying, though,
that there discussion.

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I'm sorry, Mr. Bush.

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No discussion.

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Have there been no discussion.

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You had your three minutes.

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You haven't answered
the question I did.

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You had your three minutes plus.

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Thank you.

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Anything else.

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I'm sorry for running late.

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There was traffic and rain
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it was literally in Unity.

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Sorry well, I am interested
in this question of the Eric

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Eric's language
that the audit needs

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to be in a public presentation.

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I'm curious about where that
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US having a public meeting
and discussing the audit

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with the auditor and having the
audits available on the website,

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to me, that meets the
public requirement.

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But I don't know if that's
something this board

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has more information on.

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Kevin or actually the
auditor did present,

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and I think it was the
longest period of time

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that the auditors spent
answering questions

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in the history of the County.

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I think it was over
close to 44 minutes.

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So to me, that feels
like it satisfies the it

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satisfies the requirements.

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Anything else, Commissioner
No, let's move on.

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I know some of these are
going to take some time.

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Let's go.

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North port tower discussion.

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Mike, what have you got.

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Thanks yeah.

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Good morning sir.

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Just identify yourself so
that we can get you on record.

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Thank you, Jonathan Ward,
Lincolnville fire department.

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We know Mike actually
look that way.

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Lincolnville fire department
chief, thank you for coming.

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So I was approached by
Lakeville fire department asking

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for permission to
utilize our North Port

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tower for their local
frequency that they use

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for on scene communications.

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I asked them to come here
and present that to you

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folks to make a decision.

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Before we even get into any of
the logistics or any of that.

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So any of you guys want to state
the purpose and all that stuff.

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And sure.

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So very basically
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rely on radio repeaters,
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transmitters, to allow for
coverage over the various hills

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and valleys.

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Waldo County EMA
has given a surplus

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repeater unit, which is very
serviceable to the Lincolnville

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fire department.

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And the idea for that it
was given with the intent

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that it would be set
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that the Point Lookout tower.

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And that existing
frequencies for which

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Lincolnville fire
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used to bring that repeater up.

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If that were the case, it would
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being located in North Port.

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North port would also
be able to use it

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and one of the
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which is hitherto escaped us,
has been on the seaward side

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of Camden Hills State Park
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and we feel that looking.

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I've done some surveys,
both aerial and ground,

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and looking at that
location, we should

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be able to pick up coverage in
the park, which Lincolnville

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fire covers for rescues,
which another organization,

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coastal mountain search and
rescue, which I'm a part also

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utilizes.

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So it would not only be
Lincolnville benefit,

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there would be several
agencies in the County.

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Did you have any communications
issues in the Robins incident.

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Were you.

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I don't know if you got
I think you responded.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah Donnie and I were 10 feet
from the silo when it went.

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Really actually, yeah.

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Thank you for responding.

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Thank you.

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Generally speaking, I
think communications

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were communication
solid fairly well.

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Up in the helicopter
trying to communicate.

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I don't think there was any real
easy way to communicate, back

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to command.

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And that was really
the only big problem

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we had was trying to do a size
up from the air to let command

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know what we had going on,
but no real big communication

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problems.

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Just a lot of people in one
spot using very few frequencies

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was the only real big issue.

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But OK, reception was fine.

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So you've got so this is just
to strengthen your signal

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or is it dead spots.

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But both so, so dead spots down
in the valleys of Lincolnville.

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We definitely have
some dead spots.

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We got some issues there.

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The other thing is
it's important to have

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discrete frequencies for
the individual departments.

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The responsibility of
dispatch is basically

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to get the information out there
to us respond to this location.

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But we can't stay
on that frequency,

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nor can other departments when
they have large incidents,

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because it would tend to
clog up basically the radio

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equivalent of a 911 system.

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So we did have those frequencies
set up in a low elevation

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scenario in Lincolnville,
which worked

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OK, but not well in places.

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And this would get
the elevation up.

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What about weather.

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Anything if you get the
tower, will that help

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increase any weather issues
like whiteouts or something

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like that or.

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I mean, any anytime
radio antenna is higher.

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That's generally better.

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What I do appreciate having
looked at the site up

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there is, of course, there's a
very professional installation

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on Point Lookout
generator backup,

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great shelter for
the transmitter

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and a very, very solid tower.

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So that's good to hear
a little bit of history

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with Lincolnville.

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They were dispatched by
Knox County for a long time

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and came back over to us
because of that tower,

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because of the coverage.

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They weren't getting the
necessary the necessary coverage

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they needed through Knox County.

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So putting this their
antenna next to ours

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would give them
pretty good coverage

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throughout Lincolnville.

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I don't think you guys
have any dead spots now.

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Really we have no dead spots.

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Yeah that's why the
desire is to move up.

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So what do you recommend, Mike.

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Like I said in the email
that I had sent you was,

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I think if they work with and I
don't know who your radio vendor

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00:12:07,820 --> 00:12:09,620
is, but from my
standpoint, I'd like

264
00:12:09,620 --> 00:12:12,400
to see if we'd go forward with
this if they work with r.c.m.

265
00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,780
Yeah, absolutely.

266
00:12:14,780 --> 00:12:17,300
Because they've done our whole
system and I just want it

267
00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:18,620
all standardized.

268
00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:20,120
Makes sense.

269
00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,940
I suggest that depending
on the frequency

270
00:12:22,940 --> 00:12:27,740
that they work with r.c.m to
get into our combiner and so

271
00:12:27,740 --> 00:12:29,320
and explain the combiner.

272
00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,900
So combiner is
what we call cans.

273
00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:35,140
They are these round cylindrical
cans this big around that long.

274
00:12:35,140 --> 00:12:38,700
And they're stacked from
floor to floor, 5 feet high.

275
00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:41,340
And what that does is
that allows us to have all

276
00:12:41,340 --> 00:12:45,220
of our radio frequencies with
two antennas on the tower, one

277
00:12:45,220 --> 00:12:48,620
transmit, one receive, and
the combiner filters out

278
00:12:48,620 --> 00:12:50,540
all the different frequencies.

279
00:12:50,540 --> 00:12:55,580
And basically you can have a
law enforcement person talking

280
00:12:55,580 --> 00:12:59,320
and a fired person talking
on one radio system,

281
00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,580
and it knows to
filter everything

282
00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:02,020
out and put it to the right.

283
00:13:02,020 --> 00:13:03,700
Good thank you.

284
00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:06,500
So there's a couple
of different options.

285
00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:08,380
One is to put in the combiner.

286
00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:12,200
Then all it is in work
inside the building.

287
00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,820
No tower work.

288
00:13:14,820 --> 00:13:18,820
The second option would be to
put a new antenna on the tower,

289
00:13:18,820 --> 00:13:19,600
which then they'd have.

290
00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,420
We'd have to get a structural
analysis on the tower

291
00:13:21,420 --> 00:13:23,060
to make sure it can support it.

292
00:13:23,060 --> 00:13:25,480
Put an antenna up,
pay for a climber,

293
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,060
run cabling and then do the
install in the building.

294
00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:31,240
And then the third
option, if it would work,

295
00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,860
would be to put an antenna
on the building itself.

296
00:13:33,860 --> 00:13:35,350
If that would give
them coverage.

297
00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:36,190
I don't know if it would.

298
00:13:36,190 --> 00:13:38,650
They'd have to do some testing
to see if that was sufficient

299
00:13:38,650 --> 00:13:39,150
or not.

300
00:13:39,150 --> 00:13:39,990
So what do you recommend.

301
00:13:39,990 --> 00:13:42,250
I recommend working with
RCM and putting them right

302
00:13:42,250 --> 00:13:43,850
into the combiner, as
long as it doesn't create

303
00:13:43,850 --> 00:13:45,650
any interference on the form.

304
00:13:45,650 --> 00:13:47,370
That sounds like
a good first step.

305
00:13:47,370 --> 00:13:48,890
Yeah OK.

306
00:13:48,890 --> 00:13:49,870
This is no charge.

307
00:13:49,870 --> 00:13:51,310
Correct yeah.

308
00:13:51,310 --> 00:13:53,290
This charge.

309
00:13:53,290 --> 00:13:54,270
Yeah, we paid for that.

310
00:13:54,270 --> 00:13:57,730
Yeah, but this is no charge
ongoing for the Lincoln fire

311
00:13:57,730 --> 00:13:58,230
department.

312
00:13:58,230 --> 00:13:59,230
That's the point.

313
00:13:59,230 --> 00:14:00,030
I want to stress.

314
00:14:00,030 --> 00:14:01,950
I don't see a reason to
be charging the fire.

315
00:14:01,950 --> 00:14:04,030
Department of Health and safety.

316
00:14:04,030 --> 00:14:05,670
As far as I'm concerned, yeah.

317
00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:09,430
Questions what
was your thoughts.

318
00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:10,550
What was your thoughts.

319
00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:12,730
Ideas on this.

320
00:14:12,730 --> 00:14:14,190
Did we talk to their
fire department.

321
00:14:14,190 --> 00:14:16,730
I did not talk to
Paul at all about it.

322
00:14:16,730 --> 00:14:18,490
I figured we'd come to
you guys first to see

323
00:14:18,490 --> 00:14:21,270
if it was even something that
would be allowed to pursue.

324
00:14:21,270 --> 00:14:24,330
And then the only reason
why I bring it up,

325
00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:26,210
and I stay away from
fire departments

326
00:14:26,210 --> 00:14:28,370
because everybody has their own.

327
00:14:28,370 --> 00:14:31,010
I get it, I get it.

328
00:14:31,010 --> 00:14:34,250
So, I just.

329
00:14:34,250 --> 00:14:35,870
I mean, I'm OK with
the idea of it,

330
00:14:35,870 --> 00:14:37,910
but I don't want to
step on anybody's toes.

331
00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:40,410
Well, one of the
things we would do

332
00:14:40,410 --> 00:14:43,290
once we got that up and
running is go to poll basically

333
00:14:43,290 --> 00:14:45,610
and say, hey, here
are the frequencies.

334
00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:47,290
Jump on.

335
00:14:47,290 --> 00:14:49,650
Because yeah, it's
in their town.

336
00:14:49,650 --> 00:14:52,570
And I will say that having
been in the fire service

337
00:14:52,570 --> 00:14:56,050
for over 30 years, the
cooperation between departments

338
00:14:56,050 --> 00:14:57,530
is rising.

339
00:14:57,530 --> 00:14:59,510
Every agency has to be.

340
00:14:59,510 --> 00:15:01,750
Yeah especially on
the volunteer ones.

341
00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:04,210
Absolutely the more you
work together, the better.

342
00:15:04,210 --> 00:15:07,370
Yeah Because one other
question I have is

343
00:15:07,370 --> 00:15:11,930
if you guys approved this,
would it be OK for us to share

344
00:15:11,930 --> 00:15:14,530
the frequency with
the State Park

345
00:15:14,530 --> 00:15:17,330
so that their employees
could have this frequency

346
00:15:17,330 --> 00:15:21,310
to be able for, as well as share
it with Camden fire department,

347
00:15:21,310 --> 00:15:24,470
because we also share
that State Park.

348
00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:26,750
Yeah, Lincolnville
is over half of it.

349
00:15:26,750 --> 00:15:29,230
Camden has the other part of it.

350
00:15:29,230 --> 00:15:30,190
And then the State Park.

351
00:15:30,190 --> 00:15:32,300
That's a good question,
but that's about I mean,

352
00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:34,400
I'm all for it, but that's
because I want to do

353
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,360
dispatching in Knox County.

354
00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,480
So I want to make money.

355
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,100
Yeah I just think
if we can share it,

356
00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:42,260
it will benefit everybody.

357
00:15:42,260 --> 00:15:43,360
And there's a lot.

358
00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:43,860
What do you.

359
00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:44,740
What do you think, Mike.

360
00:15:44,740 --> 00:15:46,700
So I was just going
to say this right now,

361
00:15:46,700 --> 00:15:48,740
the County has what we
call common channels.

362
00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:50,240
We have four of them.

363
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,040
CC 1 through CC four.

364
00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,680
One is located in Frankfort,
one in Knox, one in liberty

365
00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,440
and one here in Belfast.

366
00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,400
We don't have one that covers
down that part of the County.

367
00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,300
So this as long as Lincolnville
owns the equipment,

368
00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:10,160
they own the actual
license to the frequency.

369
00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,440
And my thought is, if
they're willing to open it up

370
00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,200
a little bit further to some
of the surrounding departments

371
00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,520
as a working channel, as long
as it doesn't interfere if they

372
00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,560
have a fire because they
would be primary on it, then

373
00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,920
I have no problem
with that because that

374
00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,380
would be great for that area.

375
00:16:24,380 --> 00:16:25,740
So who owns the frequency.

376
00:16:25,740 --> 00:16:26,960
They will own the frequency.

377
00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,320
We'll have a license.

378
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,220
So that would be a
decision for you I think.

379
00:16:31,220 --> 00:16:34,540
Not for us to overstep
our bounds and get into.

380
00:16:34,540 --> 00:16:35,960
We're basically
giving them a place

381
00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,000
situation a place on our radio.

382
00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,660
Yeah so Commissioner you had
some comments or questions.

383
00:16:40,660 --> 00:16:42,720
No that just makes
sense to me that it's

384
00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,700
sort of like they're like
intellectual property,

385
00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:47,800
so to speak, versus we help
with the physical plant.

386
00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,400
Yeah, yeah.

387
00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,880
So yes.

388
00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,160
Is there any additional costs on
the County side if we do this.

389
00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,080
No OK.

390
00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,780
So I'll entertain a motion
to approve and move forward.

391
00:17:00,780 --> 00:17:01,640
So moved.

392
00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,960
At first I have a second.

393
00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,780
Second the only last thing
is just keep us posted.

394
00:17:06,780 --> 00:17:08,119
If there's issues.

395
00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,859
Some you never know
with issues like this.

396
00:17:10,859 --> 00:17:13,420
If something else is going to
pop up, just keep us posted.

397
00:17:13,420 --> 00:17:14,920
Any more discussion.

398
00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,420
Hearing none.

399
00:17:15,420 --> 00:17:15,940
Call the question.

400
00:17:15,940 --> 00:17:16,573
All those in favor.

401
00:17:16,573 --> 00:17:17,460
Motion carries unanimous.

402
00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:18,960
Thank you very much
for your service.

403
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,460
Thank you very much for
responding to Robins fire, too.

404
00:17:21,460 --> 00:17:21,980
Thank you.

405
00:17:21,980 --> 00:17:22,660
You're very welcome.

406
00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:23,579
Thanks Thank you.

407
00:17:23,579 --> 00:17:24,720
Commissioners yeah.

408
00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:30,440
Next on the agenda,
East Northport.

409
00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,560
Go back.

410
00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,140
Excuse me.

411
00:17:32,140 --> 00:17:32,640
Go back.

412
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,040


413
00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:36,720
Yes, sir.

414
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,440
Yes, ma'am.

415
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,380
Yes, ma'am.

416
00:17:38,380 --> 00:17:40,280
Could we please take Jerry
Merrill next because she

417
00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,160
has another meeting to go to.

418
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,240
Sure you can step forward.

419
00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,480
Thank you.

420
00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,920
Thanks, Barb.

421
00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,420
Thank you.

422
00:17:47,420 --> 00:17:53,280
Barbara Sherri Merrill,
executive director.

423
00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,000
Thank you.

424
00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000
So I think we wanted to bring
you back because Commissioner

425
00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,960
Parker stepped
out before, but we

426
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,400
wanted to make sure that
we all heard your request

427
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,000
and to make sure that the budget
process that everybody has heard

428
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000
by all three
commissioners, especially

429
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,580
under the appropriations.

430
00:18:09,580 --> 00:18:13,720


431
00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,360
Act is this time
to take our meds.

432
00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:18,600
No, I'm just kidding you.

433
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,100
That's right.

434
00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:19,800
So go ahead.

435
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:26,050
So your request originally was
for how much $50,000 $3,000.

436
00:18:26,050 --> 00:18:32,670
It's our first request in more
than six years to the County.

437
00:18:32,670 --> 00:18:33,350
We are.

438
00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:38,910
Last year, we served over
8,200 people in the County,

439
00:18:38,910 --> 00:18:42,210
which is more than 20%
of the County population.

440
00:18:42,210 --> 00:18:43,910
Was the population.

441
00:18:43,910 --> 00:18:45,050
It was 8,000.

442
00:18:45,050 --> 00:18:47,570
We served more than 8,200.

443
00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:53,230
It was close to 8,300 for the
population of Waldo County

444
00:18:53,230 --> 00:18:57,750
was 40,000 plus last year.

445
00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:59,130
I went over all the programs.

446
00:18:59,130 --> 00:19:02,790
If you want me to continue
to go over that again.

447
00:19:02,790 --> 00:19:03,410
Oh, yeah.

448
00:19:03,410 --> 00:19:04,750
Sure OK.

449
00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:07,470
So we run the Belfast
soup kitchen five days

450
00:19:07,470 --> 00:19:09,990
a week, Monday through Friday.

451
00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:12,530
We're serving 400 meals
a day out of there.

452
00:19:12,530 --> 00:19:16,830
We offer inside dining,
takeout and curbside.

453
00:19:16,830 --> 00:19:20,310
And then we also have a County
wide delivery program touching

454
00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:22,990
all four corners of the County.

455
00:19:22,990 --> 00:19:26,310
We're delivering to about
150 households a week.

456
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:29,710
Through that delivery program,
and then every other week,

457
00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:33,790
we are delivering food
boxes to those people

458
00:19:33,790 --> 00:19:39,110
who qualify in the
kindness community market.

459
00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:43,870
We have seen a 54% increase
in families utilizing

460
00:19:43,870 --> 00:19:46,350
the market since January.

461
00:19:46,350 --> 00:19:51,310
At this point, we have spent 84%
of our food budget for the year

462
00:19:51,310 --> 00:19:52,110
already.

463
00:19:52,110 --> 00:19:54,290
Are you calendar
or fiscal calendar.

464
00:19:54,290 --> 00:19:57,150
Calendar calendar.

465
00:19:57,150 --> 00:20:00,270
Do you still get
food from our garden.

466
00:20:00,270 --> 00:20:02,170
We are getting food
from the garden.

467
00:20:02,170 --> 00:20:06,110
Yes what I said last
time that I was here

468
00:20:06,110 --> 00:20:08,810
is that there is
not the quantity.

469
00:20:08,810 --> 00:20:12,930
There used to be, because Dale
is concentrating on the quality.

470
00:20:12,930 --> 00:20:14,990
And that makes a lot
more sense, because when

471
00:20:14,990 --> 00:20:17,190
I got zucchinis this
big, the only place

472
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:19,470
they were going to the big.

473
00:20:19,470 --> 00:20:22,080
So we're not getting as much
as we used to out of there.

474
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,300
Which is fine because
it's more usable.

475
00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:30,360
I would say 25% of what we used
to get is what we're getting.

476
00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:36,600
So let me just back up to
the County Constitution.

477
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,300
So do you measure in poundage
or is it just all our donations

478
00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:43,900
that we take in are
measured in pounds,

479
00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:47,860
and then it's converted to
dollar amount by the Feeding

480
00:20:47,860 --> 00:20:50,560
America, whatever their amount.

481
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,080
Whatever the calculation
is for this year.

482
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,960
So the poundage.

483
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,660
Do you know the poundage
offhand from the County

484
00:20:55,660 --> 00:20:57,720
guide and previous versus not.

485
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,700
I do not.

486
00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:02,480
OK I'm going to say last year
it was less than 500 pounds.

487
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,700
500 pounds and I know
way less than that.

488
00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:06,860
How many staff do you have.

489
00:21:06,860 --> 00:21:11,380
Current well, I'm supposed
to have four staff.

490
00:21:11,380 --> 00:21:15,960
And we were going to hire
another part time staff,

491
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,900
so that would have
been five plus myself.

492
00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:20,880
I had now have two vacancies.

493
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,340
So right now I'm operating
with three staff.

494
00:21:23,340 --> 00:21:24,580
Should be at six.

495
00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:25,940
We should be at six.

496
00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:27,360
And does one of those six.

497
00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:30,020
Are they responsible
for the transportation.

498
00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:34,140
Yes I have a delivery manager
and we have our own truck.

499
00:21:34,140 --> 00:21:35,020
Just one.

500
00:21:35,020 --> 00:21:35,760
Just one.

501
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:46,620
So we are serving
about 400 families.

502
00:21:46,620 --> 00:21:50,120
Families a week in the
kindness community market.

503
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:53,060
And through the
food box delivery.

504
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:55,940
So 400 meals a day,
400 families a week.

505
00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:59,540
And the kindness community
market yesterday we saw 123

506
00:21:59,540 --> 00:22:01,660
go through there.

507
00:22:01,660 --> 00:22:03,880
I know you run a great
organization over there.

508
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,040
I've actually visited.

509
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,260
I actually had lunch.

510
00:22:06,260 --> 00:22:08,760
It's a great organization
without question.

511
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,600
I don't think anybody
can do it better.

512
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,960
And I visited a lot of
food shelters in my career.

513
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,770
So besides those programs, we
also have six help yourself

514
00:22:18,770 --> 00:22:23,570
shelves in main health
offices across Waldo County

515
00:22:23,570 --> 00:22:24,910
to meet people where they are.

516
00:22:24,910 --> 00:22:28,310
So we stocked dry goods
and produce in those areas,

517
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:31,490
and people can access those when
they go to their regular doctor

518
00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:32,650
appointments.

519
00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:38,830
We also do a backpack and
food pantry program in RSU 20.

520
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:40,730
So on the weekends,
we send home two

521
00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:43,810
breakfast, three lunch
dinners for identified K

522
00:22:43,810 --> 00:22:45,210
through five students.

523
00:22:45,210 --> 00:22:48,250
And then we operate a
pantry hygiene closet

524
00:22:48,250 --> 00:22:50,370
in the middle high
school that students

525
00:22:50,370 --> 00:22:52,810
can access throughout the week.

526
00:22:52,810 --> 00:22:56,410
We are going to be duplicating
that starting next week

527
00:22:56,410 --> 00:22:58,030
in RSU 71.

528
00:22:58,030 --> 00:23:00,010
So we will have a
backpack program K

529
00:23:00,010 --> 00:23:02,950
through five in their
elementary schools and a.

530
00:23:02,950 --> 00:23:05,650


531
00:23:05,650 --> 00:23:07,690
Food pantries, hygiene
closet in the middle school

532
00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:08,670
and the high school.

533
00:23:08,670 --> 00:23:12,890
And then in both locations we
will be distributing produce

534
00:23:12,890 --> 00:23:16,570
free produce twice a month,
the first and third week

535
00:23:16,570 --> 00:23:19,710
of every month, and
anybody can access that.

536
00:23:19,710 --> 00:23:25,970
And we typically distribute
about 2,400 pounds at that time.

537
00:23:25,970 --> 00:23:31,410
We have the freezers out at the
Waldo County tech center that we

538
00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:35,250
have shared with the other 19
food pantries in Waldo County

539
00:23:35,250 --> 00:23:38,170
for the last six years,
not charging them anything

540
00:23:38,170 --> 00:23:42,210
and allowing them to store
goods there to distribute

541
00:23:42,210 --> 00:23:45,090
in the name of hunger relief.

542
00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:48,170
I'm trying to think, what
else if I'm missing anything.

543
00:23:48,170 --> 00:23:50,070
We now have the
community health hub,

544
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:52,570
so we have several
different agencies in there

545
00:23:52,570 --> 00:23:55,330
so that when people
need assistance,

546
00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:57,670
we don't have to send
them to another agency.

547
00:23:57,670 --> 00:24:00,390
We're now getting representation
from the other agencies.

548
00:24:00,390 --> 00:24:02,290
On site.

549
00:24:02,290 --> 00:24:05,250
Community health workers
are connecting people

550
00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:10,730
with medical resources, and
we have community paramedicine

551
00:24:10,730 --> 00:24:17,760
through a referral program that
can actually do wound care.

552
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,480
Medication management,
those types

553
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,960
of things when people don't
have a primary care physician.

554
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,180
Really Yes.

555
00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:26,420
And who's doing the wound care.

556
00:24:26,420 --> 00:24:27,340
Just curious.

557
00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:29,760
Who do you who's Debbie Heath.

558
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,260
She an RN, LPN.

559
00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:33,420
Debbie is a paramedic.

560
00:24:33,420 --> 00:24:34,000
Paramedic?

561
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,500
OK.

562
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:35,300
Good, good.

563
00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:37,200
Yeah, I was actually
certified wound care.

564
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,000
That's the reason I was.

565
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,880
It's through.

566
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,820
It's through community.

567
00:24:39,820 --> 00:24:46,360
Paramedicine so here's a
left field question for you.

568
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,580
If Penobscot community health
center, they're in the news.

569
00:24:49,580 --> 00:24:51,280
They're three million short.

570
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,880
If they cut back services how
is it going to affect you here.

571
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,520
What kind of services
do you get from PCA.

572
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,560
Now we're still in
discussion with PCHC.

573
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,000
So most of our
services right now

574
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,260
are provided through
mainehealth, Maine Health,

575
00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:07,620
Maine Health, new seasons.

576
00:25:07,620 --> 00:25:11,440
We have the mobile methadone
unit there three days a week

577
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,020
Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

578
00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:16,680
We have the public health
nurse there on Wednesdays.

579
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,020
Community health
workers options.

580
00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:22,820
Sweetser we have a variety
of other agencies, so.

581
00:25:22,820 --> 00:25:24,760
But you'll still take
some type of impact

582
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,400
from it if they
reduce their services.

583
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,520
Absolutely yeah, absolutely.

584
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,840
Other questions.

585
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,240
Oh, yeah, I got some.

586
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,300
I'm doing the math.

587
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:39,600


588
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,960
Oh, just give me a second.

589
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,600
I just want to make sure
I have the right number

590
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,800
before I present this.

591
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,120
My only comments are related
to special appropriations

592
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:49,260
funding in general.

593
00:25:49,260 --> 00:25:50,440
So I don't know.

594
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,960
We'll discuss that
as part of this

595
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:58,120
or later on in the
budget discussion today.

596
00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:02,280
So I wanted to make
this as fair as possible

597
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,080
before I presented
it, because I did not

598
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,240
want to be one town
versus a different town

599
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,510
because of the last time we
did special appropriation

600
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:11,990
conversations.

601
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:13,130
This is not a town.

602
00:26:13,130 --> 00:26:15,510
Remember, this is
not just Belfast.

603
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:16,610
The entire County.

604
00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:17,330
I'm aware.

605
00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:20,110
OK, but we had another
special appropriation

606
00:26:20,110 --> 00:26:23,910
that did provide for multiple
districts throughout the County.

607
00:26:23,910 --> 00:26:26,750
So again, I'm going to try
to be fair before I make this

608
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:32,550
presentation based off of your
$50,000 that you're requesting,

609
00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:34,630
if you were to break
it down, it's about

610
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:40,390
$1.23 off of our population.

611
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:44,610
If you go off of 2020 census,
you're looking at 39,607 people.

612
00:26:44,610 --> 00:26:47,810
If you look at AI'S
projection, as of 2026,

613
00:26:47,810 --> 00:26:50,950
you're looking at 40,693.

614
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:56,310
So I went off of the eye for 26,
which brings it down to $1.23.

615
00:26:56,310 --> 00:27:02,750
So for $1.23 per person.

616
00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:07,190
And that's not including
gas transportation, labor

617
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:11,990
we're able to service almost
a fourth of the population

618
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:14,230
here in Waldo County.

619
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:15,470
Correct Correct.

620
00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:16,430
All right.

621
00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:18,330
And those are
unduplicated numbers.

622
00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:20,090
And again, that's $1.23.

623
00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:23,550
And I'm not factoring any
kind of taxes, payroll,

624
00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:27,670
gas, transportation,
vehicle breakdowns,

625
00:27:27,670 --> 00:27:29,190
buying of the vehicle.

626
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:32,110
And of course, the processing
of the food from when

627
00:27:32,110 --> 00:27:34,590
they get it to the table.

628
00:27:34,590 --> 00:27:36,730
So just wanted to clarify that.

629
00:27:36,730 --> 00:27:40,310
We're talking about $1.23
without all those subtractions

630
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:43,350
to that dollar.

631
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:46,830
Any other discussion.

632
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:50,830
Do you want to hold a motion
until we get to the budget.

633
00:27:50,830 --> 00:27:52,830
She has a meeting to attend.

634
00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:55,870
Or do you want to put
a motion on the table.

635
00:27:55,870 --> 00:27:57,010
Which do you prefer.

636
00:27:57,010 --> 00:27:59,630


637
00:27:59,630 --> 00:28:01,490
I wouldn't put a motion
on the table now.

638
00:28:01,490 --> 00:28:02,450
I'd discuss it later.

639
00:28:02,450 --> 00:28:05,510
But you want to discuss later.

640
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:08,180
How is that any different than
the other special appropriations

641
00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:10,140
that we did.

642
00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:11,820
That's the reason I'm
asking the question.

643
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:13,080
Yeah you're welcome
to put a motion.

644
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:13,920
OK yeah.

645
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,560
OK yeah.

646
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,360
I mean, I'll make a motion that
we approve the $50,000 a second.

647
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,960
Second for discussion,
second for discussion.

648
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,680
Discussion I'm not going to
be voting in favor of it.

649
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,700
I have been thinking about
special appropriations

650
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:31,700
for the last couple of weeks
since we first started having

651
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:37,940
these conversations, and I just
keep coming back to the idea

652
00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:41,020
that we currently have a
spending freeze on anything over

653
00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:46,500
$1,000, that we have a
hiring freeze that we have,

654
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:51,200
as a very similar budget
challenge that we had last year.

655
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,420
And for me, I want to revisit
special appropriations

656
00:28:56,420 --> 00:28:58,900
in general, because I don't
think that we should be making

657
00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:02,780
donations to organizations when
we can't pay our own Bills,

658
00:29:02,780 --> 00:29:06,480
no matter how wonderful the
return on investment is.

659
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,240
It's not personal to any
of the organizations.

660
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,140
I just don't think
that the County is

661
00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:14,860
financially in a
position to be making

662
00:29:14,860 --> 00:29:16,360
donations to organizations.

663
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,680
Or you could call it an
investment in an organization.

664
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,880
It's a good investment.

665
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,280
We just don't in my opinion,
have the money to do it.

666
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,060
So I'm not going to be in favor.

667
00:29:25,060 --> 00:29:27,160
I completely disagree.

668
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,720
I look at it completely
the other way.

669
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,460
I think that for the return
of the investment of all

670
00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:34,800
the things that I
just listed, I mean,

671
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,700
we're already doing a garden.

672
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,640
This garden is already
invested in this organization.

673
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,800
This isn't just an organization
that popped up overnight.

674
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,260
This organization works
with all the food pantries

675
00:29:46,260 --> 00:29:47,640
all over all of the towns.

676
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,520
Which is why in the beginning
of my presentation, I said,

677
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,540
I'm not going to target
one town or the other

678
00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:55,260
because all populations
of each town is different.

679
00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:59,260
There was an argument
that was made back in 2024

680
00:29:59,260 --> 00:30:02,480
about this same type of issue,
different special appropriation,

681
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,130
that for every dollar
you spend get $10 back.

682
00:30:07,130 --> 00:30:08,950
I just strongly disagree.

683
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:13,970
I mean, I think that
we should those 8,000

684
00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:16,530
plus families in
Waldo County can

685
00:30:16,530 --> 00:30:19,010
access that market once a week.

686
00:30:19,010 --> 00:30:20,990
So they're not just coming once.

687
00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:23,210
They're coming back
weekly, they're

688
00:30:23,210 --> 00:30:26,710
getting they can shop just like
they shop in the grocery store.

689
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:29,210
It's a three day supplement.

690
00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:33,290
And like I said, we've seen
a 54% increase in utilization

691
00:30:33,290 --> 00:30:34,230
since January.

692
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:37,230
And come October, that number
is going to climb even higher.

693
00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:40,930
When families are facing the
fact that they have to put fuel

694
00:30:40,930 --> 00:30:43,810
oil to heat their homes
and continue to put gas

695
00:30:43,810 --> 00:30:47,770
in their cars to get to work,
and that's where the breakdown

696
00:30:47,770 --> 00:30:49,377
ends up is with food.

697
00:30:49,377 --> 00:30:51,010
Well, I appreciate you
saying that because that's

698
00:30:51,010 --> 00:30:55,870
what I was getting to because
this isn't just a $1.23.

699
00:30:55,870 --> 00:30:57,110
They come get food.

700
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:59,030
This is we're coming to you.

701
00:30:59,030 --> 00:31:01,130
We have a vehicle.

702
00:31:01,130 --> 00:31:03,890
Some of these people can't
get to where you're at,

703
00:31:03,890 --> 00:31:07,250
and this affects
the people that need

704
00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:11,010
it the most in our community.

705
00:31:11,010 --> 00:31:12,650
And I want to reiterate
that we do not

706
00:31:12,650 --> 00:31:14,030
take state or federal money.

707
00:31:14,030 --> 00:31:16,530
Yes, we do participate
in the program

708
00:31:16,530 --> 00:31:20,810
that comes to us in the form of
free food from Good Shepherd.

709
00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:22,790
All the other food we're
getting from Good Shepherd,

710
00:31:22,790 --> 00:31:24,290
we're purchasing.

711
00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:27,250
We are working with
partners across the County

712
00:31:27,250 --> 00:31:31,890
to get donated foods and
Hannaford and the Belfast co-op.

713
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,330
But we do not take
federal funds or state

714
00:31:34,330 --> 00:31:37,430
funds because they tend to
restrict us in who we can serve.

715
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:39,330
And the Belfast soup
kitchen prides itself

716
00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:42,450
on serving anybody who
needs the assistance I

717
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:44,570
agree with that point totally.

718
00:31:44,570 --> 00:31:48,370
I've been down that
road hundreds of times.

719
00:31:48,370 --> 00:31:52,210
I struggle, I hear both
sides of the arguments

720
00:31:52,210 --> 00:31:56,210
and sometimes I sit-in the
middle to break the tie.

721
00:31:56,210 --> 00:31:57,670
I struggle with the amount.

722
00:31:57,670 --> 00:32:00,970
It's not the concept, it's the
amount in the financial position

723
00:32:00,970 --> 00:32:03,570
that the County is in right now.

724
00:32:03,570 --> 00:32:07,010
Understood funding.

725
00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:10,230
And I go back to this
might be a bad comparison,

726
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:14,490
but I go back to some of
the opioid funding FTEs.

727
00:32:14,490 --> 00:32:16,810
I get concerned
because after a year

728
00:32:16,810 --> 00:32:19,570
that funding goes away,
typically in trying to fund

729
00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:23,250
that full time equivalent
employee gets difficult

730
00:32:23,250 --> 00:32:25,090
because you're trying
to find out the revenue

731
00:32:25,090 --> 00:32:27,170
stream to support that service.

732
00:32:27,170 --> 00:32:32,290
So I'm not in favor
of funding an FTE.

733
00:32:32,290 --> 00:32:36,470
However, I would like to us to
finish up the budget process.

734
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:39,570
We're still muddling
through the budget process,

735
00:32:39,570 --> 00:32:42,490
trying to figure out where
we're at as a County before we

736
00:32:42,490 --> 00:32:45,330
present to the Budget Committee.

737
00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:50,210
And so for me personally, I
don't want to say no, totally.

738
00:32:50,210 --> 00:32:51,890
But I want to say no.

739
00:32:51,890 --> 00:32:54,890
I want to say no to funding FTE.

740
00:32:54,890 --> 00:32:59,200
It's just it's a stretch
in this budget last year.

741
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,540
I'm not asking you to
fund any of my personnel.

742
00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:05,780
I'm asking you to
fund food when I'm at.

743
00:33:05,780 --> 00:33:08,080
When at the end of
July, I had reached

744
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,880
85% of my purchasing budget
because of the number of people

745
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,500
that are coming.

746
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:17,340
So the heating oil right now,
I checked last week is $5.16.

747
00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:19,040
So I'm shopping
for heating oil to

748
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120
and it's all dependent upon
the environment, what's

749
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,880
going on internationally.

750
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,000
And it's going to be
another tough year

751
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,100
trying to figure that out.

752
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,680
And I'm even looking
at my wood supply too.

753
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,060
So it's affecting
everybody across the board,

754
00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:36,000
not only those that
have the higher

755
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,460
need, but those that have a
lesser need type of situation.

756
00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:42,360
Whether they're
financial position

757
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,380
is a little bit different.

758
00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:45,460
So any more discussion.

759
00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:48,240
I deliver firewood
or whatever you do.

760
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,140
It's good to know.

761
00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:52,960
I just want to say I
am happy with any part

762
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,120
of an appropriation that
the County can give us

763
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,920
because as I said,
this is the first time

764
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,300
we've asked in a long time.

765
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:03,040
I was discouraged
from asking for,

766
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,360
but we are serving the
population of Waldo County,

767
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,980
so I've been homeless.

768
00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:10,880
Sherry so and I've
never forgotten

769
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,060
it for 3 and 1/2 months
living in the wood at 17.

770
00:34:14,060 --> 00:34:17,080
To this day, I still
stock canned goods.

771
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,719
To this day, my wife doesn't
allow me to go down the canned

772
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,480
goods section if she's with me.

773
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,679
So I totally get it when you're
hungry, that's the number

774
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,219
one priority, period.

775
00:34:27,219 --> 00:34:30,020
There's nothing else
on your mind any more.

776
00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:31,840
Discussion?

777
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,380
hearing none.

778
00:34:32,380 --> 00:34:34,320
Call the question so
the motion is read it

779
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,639
back to us to approve $50,000.

780
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,679
OK, so before you
call the question,

781
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,159
is there a number that
you could live with.

782
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:46,860
I want to look at
the total budget.

783
00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:51,560
Before we present and revisit,
I think that's the fair thing

784
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,750
to be saying for me right now.

785
00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:56,770
Because not only
do we have that,

786
00:34:56,770 --> 00:34:59,910
but our heating
costs and everything

787
00:34:59,910 --> 00:35:01,890
are going up, for the County.

788
00:35:01,890 --> 00:35:04,670
And here's one other
caveat to a lot of people.

789
00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:06,590
I sat down with the County
clerk and filled out

790
00:35:06,590 --> 00:35:12,130
a survey for the National
Association of counties.

791
00:35:12,130 --> 00:35:15,190
Association nationally
looking at the services

792
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:19,070
that the County provides
and the litany of the list

793
00:35:19,070 --> 00:35:22,590
that they had on there and
trying to figure out why

794
00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:25,670
aren't we providing more
services to the County.

795
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:27,670
And it's disturbing.

796
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:28,970
And trying to figure
out how to do it.

797
00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:31,230
And this would be fiscally
responsible at the same time

798
00:35:31,230 --> 00:35:32,630
as the other question.

799
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:36,870
So I encourage the
other two commissioners

800
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:40,110
to look at the survey
that was submitted and put

801
00:35:40,110 --> 00:35:43,770
on our thinking hats, just where
do we need to go for the future.

802
00:35:43,770 --> 00:35:45,330
And I think that's
the big question.

803
00:35:45,330 --> 00:35:48,830
So any more discussion.

804
00:35:48,830 --> 00:35:49,410
Hearing none.

805
00:35:49,410 --> 00:35:50,010
Call the question.

806
00:35:50,010 --> 00:35:51,950
All those in favor.

807
00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:53,630
All those opposed.

808
00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:54,770
Motion fails.

809
00:35:54,770 --> 00:35:55,430
Thank you.

810
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:56,550
Thank you very much.

811
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:57,410
And I really do.

812
00:35:57,410 --> 00:35:59,750
We really do appreciate
what your organization

813
00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:00,570
is doing over there.

814
00:36:00,570 --> 00:36:01,090
Thank you.

815
00:36:01,090 --> 00:36:02,810
It's a struggle for us, too.

816
00:36:02,810 --> 00:36:03,930
I know that I know that.

817
00:36:03,930 --> 00:36:04,550
Thank you.

818
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:06,670
Thank you.

819
00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:09,310
So that one.

820
00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:12,870
Barb, do we need to go to the
contracts first for the opioid,

821
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:16,790
or is that part of a report.

822
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:17,990
I think you can.

823
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:19,710
It's not part of the report.

824
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:20,770
It's an old business.

825
00:36:20,770 --> 00:36:23,070
Old business Yes All
right, so we'll go down.

826
00:36:23,070 --> 00:36:24,090
War bonds there.

827
00:36:24,090 --> 00:36:27,670


828
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:28,170
All right.

829
00:36:28,170 --> 00:36:29,690
Let's go to executive session.

830
00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:31,590
A discussion of general
government labor contract

831
00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:38,190
negotiation pursuant to
Mrs. Subchapter one 405 60.

832
00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:40,090
Let me know when
we're off record.

833
00:36:40,090 --> 00:36:40,650
Thank you.

834
00:36:40,650 --> 00:36:50,820


835
00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:51,920
Is that firewood.

836
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,080
You can say, oh, I was just
asked to give it to you.

837
00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:03,300


838
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:03,960
Any time.

839
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,520
Chris quick.

840
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,820
It should be quick.

841
00:37:07,820 --> 00:37:08,840
Not even a minute.

842
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,380


843
00:37:12,380 --> 00:37:14,340
It's possible.

844
00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:15,680
So be back on board.

845
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,860
I take it.

846
00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:18,460
Yes OK.

847
00:37:18,460 --> 00:37:22,900
So, Colin, we're out
of executive session.

848
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,300
No motions required.

849
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:27,220
No action taken.

850
00:37:27,220 --> 00:37:31,420
This is September 3, 2026, and
we're continuing the County

851
00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:33,060
commissioner's court session.

852
00:37:33,060 --> 00:37:38,020
So, Chris, I'll put you right
up so we can put on the table

853
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:39,200
what you've got real quick.

854
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,547


855
00:37:43,547 --> 00:37:44,480
Good morning, commissioners.

856
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,060
How are you.

857
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:46,340
Good morning.

858
00:37:46,340 --> 00:37:48,820
I just want to get
your permission

859
00:37:48,820 --> 00:37:50,880
to pay this fuel bill.

860
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,600
The fuel.

861
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,820
The propane tank up at
the Sheriff's Office.

862
00:37:55,820 --> 00:37:58,040
It needed 966 gallons.

863
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,060
So that cost us $1,661.69.

864
00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:04,540
And I just wanted to
get permission that I

865
00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:05,860
can go ahead and code it.

866
00:38:05,860 --> 00:38:10,520
How are we doing with budgeting
on this line item for the year.

867
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,240
How's it looking.

868
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:16,900
So with this one, this
takes us almost right up

869
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:22,940
to hopefully we'll get one more
fuel bill for this building

870
00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:26,100
where it's August
or September now.

871
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:28,680
But we're this was a big one.

872
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,660
This was a big fail right here.

873
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:33,060
But I mean, do you think
that line item will

874
00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:34,620
exceed by the end of
the year, or do you

875
00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:36,040
it'll be on target or under.

876
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,900
If I can have an educated
guess, I would say

877
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:39,000
it probably go a little over.

878
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,840
Yes OK.

879
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,420
It will go over
this a little bit.

880
00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:44,300
This line item.

881
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:47,610
We obviously they
haven't filled it

882
00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:51,650
since probably March
or February or March

883
00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:52,870
and that's lasted until now.

884
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:56,410
And what was the
amount again, Chris.

885
00:38:56,410 --> 00:38:58,130
How many gallons.

886
00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:59,390
No the dollar amount.

887
00:38:59,390 --> 00:39:06,710
The dollar amount. $1,661.69
but this is also included.

888
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:10,650
This price, to be fair, is
now that new contract that we

889
00:39:10,650 --> 00:39:13,850
had negotiated for $0.10 more.

890
00:39:13,850 --> 00:39:17,270
Because that contract
expires in May of every year.

891
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:21,050
But whereas this time around, we
signed the we got the same price

892
00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:22,350
for the next two years.

893
00:39:22,350 --> 00:39:26,170
So next year's budget line
next year is I was able to get

894
00:39:26,170 --> 00:39:28,630
a solid number with the
$0.10 more per gallon,

895
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:32,490
because that's what
we have signed up for.

896
00:39:32,490 --> 00:39:36,810
OK, so I'll entertain a
motion to approve that.

897
00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:37,850
So moved.

898
00:39:37,850 --> 00:39:40,150
Second but first
I have a second.

899
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:42,450
So any more discussion.

900
00:39:42,450 --> 00:39:43,070
Hearing none.

901
00:39:43,070 --> 00:39:44,410
Call the call a question.

902
00:39:44,410 --> 00:39:46,090
Motion carries.

903
00:39:46,090 --> 00:39:47,170
Next, Chris.

904
00:39:47,170 --> 00:39:47,930
That's it.

905
00:39:47,930 --> 00:39:48,490
That was it.

906
00:39:48,490 --> 00:39:48,990
That was it.

907
00:39:48,990 --> 00:39:50,210
Thank you very much.

908
00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:51,410
Appreciate it.

909
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:57,610
I'm sorry. $1,661.69
thank you very much.

910
00:39:57,610 --> 00:39:58,850
Have a good day, commissioners.

911
00:39:58,850 --> 00:40:00,290
Thank you.

912
00:40:00,290 --> 00:40:02,090
Finance report.

913
00:40:02,090 --> 00:40:03,970
What do we got.

914
00:40:03,970 --> 00:40:05,710
Oh, I got all kinds of things.

915
00:40:05,710 --> 00:40:12,730


916
00:40:12,730 --> 00:40:17,170
Oh, I would like to
approach the bench

917
00:40:17,170 --> 00:40:21,250
to give you an email
requesting some funds

918
00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:25,130
that you should review.

919
00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:30,470
I personally am not looking
for a decision today on this.

920
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:49,040


921
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,720
And if I could,
is there a reason

922
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:52,080
the Department
doesn't want to come

923
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,460
and present to the commission.

924
00:40:53,460 --> 00:40:54,960
I got the email.

925
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,920
I'm happy to bounce back and
say that the commissioners

926
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,080
would like you to present.

927
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,720
What do you think.

928
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:02,940
It was budgeted.

929
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:05,080
I don't know that that's OK.

930
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,920
I mean, $17,000.

931
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,700
I'm pulling up that line
item in last year's budget,

932
00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:18,640
said department 1050.

933
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,760
Well, I mean fuel one also
was budgeted and Chris came.

934
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,620
Yeah correct.

935
00:41:23,620 --> 00:41:24,540
I appreciate that.

936
00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:26,940
Based off the motion that
was made a few weeks ago,

937
00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:28,800
that anything over
$1,000 had to be

938
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,220
approved by the commissioners.

939
00:41:30,220 --> 00:41:33,840
Yeah, I just didn't know
that meant in person.

940
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,400
That's all.

941
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,380
Although I appreciate in person.

942
00:41:37,380 --> 00:41:37,940
I just.

943
00:41:37,940 --> 00:41:40,920


944
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,120
But I do think that
at the next meeting,

945
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,640
the Sheriff and the
deputy are going

946
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,460
to be here anyways for the
license plate reader discussion.

947
00:41:47,460 --> 00:41:48,960
So we'll table this.

948
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:58,040
OK let's table, we'll table
this request until 917.

949
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,660
Great all right.

950
00:42:01,660 --> 00:42:06,040
So my presentation today is
other than warrants primarily

951
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,760
discussion regarding the
finance advisory committee Owen

952
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,400
presented at the last meeting.

953
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,440
What was going on.

954
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,800
And this past meeting, we
wrapped up with our account

955
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,920
consolidation on our reserves.

956
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,200
We've been looking at
what to consolidate,

957
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,560
reviewing the language
and tightening

958
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480
up that language a little bit.

959
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,760
It's been a good
activity for us.

960
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,200
Great discussion.

961
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,310
And the value that they add
to this has been amazing.

962
00:42:41,310 --> 00:42:44,670
I gave packets which are
in front of each of you,

963
00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:48,270
and I would just like
to start off by saying,

964
00:42:48,270 --> 00:42:51,330
in our capital reserves
we had 10 accounts.

965
00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:53,910
We reduced those
to five accounts

966
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:55,410
with our active reserves.

967
00:42:55,410 --> 00:42:58,350
We had eight reserve
accounts, we reduced that

968
00:42:58,350 --> 00:43:02,510
to three accounts, and we
reduced six jail reserve

969
00:43:02,510 --> 00:43:05,870
accounts to two accounts.

970
00:43:05,870 --> 00:43:08,470
With past and current changes.

971
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:12,470
We have, we have and will
be eliminating a total

972
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:14,770
of 14 account reserve accounts.

973
00:43:14,770 --> 00:43:20,070


974
00:43:20,070 --> 00:43:24,470
So we're going to go to
facility is already done.

975
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:28,550
Correct facilities you'll see
County facilities is done.

976
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:30,710
You have County
technology which was

977
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:33,790
completed County
severance and then

978
00:43:33,790 --> 00:43:36,310
County disaster response team.

979
00:43:36,310 --> 00:43:39,950
And I'm going to go over the
accounts that have been changed.

980
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:44,430
When this is all done, Carrie,
we're going to have one, 2,

981
00:43:44,430 --> 00:43:48,870
3, 4, 5, 6, 7 reserve accounts.

982
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:53,430
You'll have 5' 8.

983
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:54,210
Were you counting.

984
00:43:54,210 --> 00:44:03,910
910 10 OK.

985
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:05,990
All right.

986
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:06,490
All right.

987
00:44:06,490 --> 00:44:10,570
And so the State Auditor
refresh my memory.

988
00:44:10,570 --> 00:44:13,490
They approved the consolidation
of the reserve accounts,

989
00:44:13,490 --> 00:44:15,050
but they don't
approve the language.

990
00:44:15,050 --> 00:44:16,730
Correct That is correct.

991
00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:19,110
They're what they're
doing is they're seeing

992
00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:20,830
this is the change that
the commissioners would

993
00:44:20,830 --> 00:44:21,890
like to present.

994
00:44:21,890 --> 00:44:27,010
Does that align with their
statute statutes and whatever.

995
00:44:27,010 --> 00:44:30,630
Whatever's and.

996
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:33,450
Then if they approve based
on what we're presenting,

997
00:44:33,450 --> 00:44:35,140
they send it back
to us, and then you

998
00:44:35,140 --> 00:44:36,760
can tighten up that language.

999
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,040
You can add your targets up
to those reserves as well.

1000
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,120
So we originally started with
how many reserve accounts.

1001
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,640
All in I think it was.

1002
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,380


1003
00:44:48,380 --> 00:44:49,680
44 accounts.

1004
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,200
All 44 accounts.

1005
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,900
We're going to go down to 10.

1006
00:44:53,900 --> 00:45:03,400
Yes Do you need a motion to
on this for the State Auditor.

1007
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,800
No, because I have more
than I need to discuss.

1008
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,220
So changes that have been made.

1009
00:45:11,220 --> 00:45:16,020
Talking with the finance
advisory committee.

1010
00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:22,340
We have consolidated the grant
matching federal audit reserve

1011
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:28,140
and the economic development
reserve into one account

1012
00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:31,860
that we're changing the
name to economic development

1013
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:33,900
and grant reserve.

1014
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:36,000
There is a large spreadsheet.

1015
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,760
You'll see that
it's in highlight.

1016
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,860
It's highlighted yellow.

1017
00:45:39,860 --> 00:45:42,480
And we've updated the language.

1018
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,660


1019
00:45:45,660 --> 00:45:49,640
The equipment service.

1020
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,300
Reserve equipment
services reserve.

1021
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:57,780
It was recommended to move
that into County technology

1022
00:45:57,780 --> 00:46:01,500
reserve which already exists.

1023
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:06,740
And then with our Mc
restricted reserve,

1024
00:46:06,740 --> 00:46:11,580
technology improvement inmate
reserve and capital reserve

1025
00:46:11,580 --> 00:46:14,500
improvement that
was consolidated

1026
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:17,500
into the revitalization reserve.

1027
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:19,540
In addition, it was
recommended that we

1028
00:46:19,540 --> 00:46:23,020
change the name of
the revitalization

1029
00:46:23,020 --> 00:46:29,660
and recommended to rename it
Mc inmate housing cost reserve.

1030
00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:32,610
The language also
was changed, revised

1031
00:46:32,610 --> 00:46:36,850
to include some language
that was with the reserves

1032
00:46:36,850 --> 00:46:38,250
that we closed.

1033
00:46:38,250 --> 00:46:43,770
The Sheriff and the chief
also reviewed that language

1034
00:46:43,770 --> 00:46:48,290
and made a good note to
include inmate medical on that.

1035
00:46:48,290 --> 00:46:50,510
So you have that
language there as well.

1036
00:46:50,510 --> 00:46:53,690


1037
00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:56,730
Oh, and we also
updated our County

1038
00:46:56,730 --> 00:47:03,850
disaster response language to
include emergency response.

1039
00:47:03,850 --> 00:47:06,590
What about the proposed targets
that you've got on there.

1040
00:47:06,590 --> 00:47:09,090
Can you comment on those.

1041
00:47:09,090 --> 00:47:14,410
The proposed targets
for what was the grant

1042
00:47:14,410 --> 00:47:18,650
matching federal audit which.

1043
00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:21,810
We just combined pretty much
what was in the two accounts

1044
00:47:21,810 --> 00:47:24,010
together and left
that as our target.

1045
00:47:24,010 --> 00:47:27,890
No rhyme nor reason behind it.

1046
00:47:27,890 --> 00:47:29,390
The disaster.

1047
00:47:29,390 --> 00:47:32,010
They looked at the Finance
Committee, looked at what

1048
00:47:32,010 --> 00:47:33,990
was in there right now,
and just said, well,

1049
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:35,810
why don't we put it in here.

1050
00:47:35,810 --> 00:47:38,570
And then revitalization,
we just currently

1051
00:47:38,570 --> 00:47:43,170
combined all the reserves that
we were closing into that one.

1052
00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:45,850
And then we looked
at what our housing

1053
00:47:45,850 --> 00:47:51,490
cost was and took a third of
that to make that our target.

1054
00:47:51,490 --> 00:47:54,770
Do you think the County looking
back at the County and County

1055
00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:57,630
disaster response, the
consolidation of those two,

1056
00:47:57,630 --> 00:48:00,610
the $120,000 is sufficient.

1057
00:48:00,610 --> 00:48:03,530
We're not adding severance
into County disaster response.

1058
00:48:03,530 --> 00:48:04,030
We're not.

1059
00:48:04,030 --> 00:48:04,750
No OK.

1060
00:48:04,750 --> 00:48:10,070
But I think right now 120 is
for disaster, for disasters.

1061
00:48:10,070 --> 00:48:12,250
That's pretty close to
what's in there anyways.

1062
00:48:12,250 --> 00:48:13,590
And then the other.

1063
00:48:13,590 --> 00:48:16,370


1064
00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:17,650
The other thing I
want to bring up

1065
00:48:17,650 --> 00:48:21,330
is there was a lot of discussion
around County severance,

1066
00:48:21,330 --> 00:48:23,450
and how we should not
have that as a reserve

1067
00:48:23,450 --> 00:48:26,570
any longer, as we are having
to go and ask for funds

1068
00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:28,730
and maybe County
severance should become

1069
00:48:28,730 --> 00:48:33,030
an expense line moving forward.

1070
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:35,170
Makes sense to me.

1071
00:48:35,170 --> 00:48:36,430
May I make a comment.

1072
00:48:36,430 --> 00:48:43,930
Sure Just so all
the commissioners we

1073
00:48:43,930 --> 00:48:47,210
spent a little bit of our
organizational meeting

1074
00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:49,450
looking at reserves.

1075
00:48:49,450 --> 00:48:55,130
We spent the entire second
meeting working on reserves,

1076
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:59,410
and then we spent probably
half of the third meeting

1077
00:48:59,410 --> 00:49:02,250
finalizing the reserves.

1078
00:49:02,250 --> 00:49:05,450
And the advisory committee
had all of the paperwork

1079
00:49:05,450 --> 00:49:07,530
that Carrie put together.

1080
00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:11,490
And I'm not tooting
my own horn, but I

1081
00:49:11,490 --> 00:49:15,570
think we were very productive
and had a good result when

1082
00:49:15,570 --> 00:49:17,330
we were all done with that.

1083
00:49:17,330 --> 00:49:18,090
Thank you.

1084
00:49:18,090 --> 00:49:19,530
Thank you.

1085
00:49:19,530 --> 00:49:20,950
Anything else on
the reserve account.

1086
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:22,370
So what's the next step.

1087
00:49:22,370 --> 00:49:25,900
So if you agree
with the language,

1088
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:28,160
the next step is to really
send it to the auditors

1089
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,160
for their approval.

1090
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,120
I personally would
like you to take

1091
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,900
the auditors or state auditors.

1092
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:34,700
State auditors.

1093
00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:35,260
State auditors.

1094
00:49:35,260 --> 00:49:36,680
State auditors.

1095
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,420
I personally would
like you to table.

1096
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:40,040
That way, you have an
opportunity to review

1097
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,580
the language, make any changes.

1098
00:49:41,580 --> 00:49:45,080
If you need, and then make a
formal decision on the 17th.

1099
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,160
I've already drafted a
letter to the State Auditor,

1100
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,580
so I'm ready to pull the
plug when you're ready.

1101
00:49:50,580 --> 00:49:52,320
But I think I'd like
you guys to have

1102
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,320
an opportunity to
review and discuss

1103
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,520
and make changes if needed.

1104
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,560
Comments makes sense to me.

1105
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,860
I'm happy to see us
produce on filing.

1106
00:50:06,860 --> 00:50:09,640
Yes thank you.

1107
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,040
At one of the meetings,
I know that you the group

1108
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,060
had spent some time on.

1109
00:50:14,060 --> 00:50:17,000
It's mission statement charge.

1110
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,760
Is that something
that will be put

1111
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,800
forth before the
commissioners to approve.

1112
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,400
I'm happy to pull it up and
read it to if you want to hear

1113
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,580
what our mission statement is.

1114
00:50:24,580 --> 00:50:27,520
Yeah, yeah, I think that
needs to be formalized.

1115
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,960
Approve or accept.

1116
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:34,320
Yeah, I don't but
I would like to see

1117
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,360
I would like to see
on the website that

1118
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,320
approved or accepted
mission statement

1119
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,060
and a list of the members.

1120
00:50:41,060 --> 00:50:42,740
And if they're
from the community,

1121
00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:46,560
what town they're from, and
then if they're from the County

1122
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,120
staff, what their role is, just
so that we can have that up

1123
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,440
and people can know
that that's ongoing.

1124
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,580
Sure noted.

1125
00:50:54,580 --> 00:50:58,400
Anything else on whoever the
contact like the single point

1126
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,160
of contact should be if
someone in the community

1127
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,640
has an inquiry around the
finance advisory committee.

1128
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,320
County treasurer.

1129
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,240
Sounds good.

1130
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:08,740
What else.

1131
00:51:08,740 --> 00:51:10,740
Do you have anything
else on that topic.

1132
00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:12,500
I'm just going to read
that mission statement.

1133
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:13,660
I'm just sitting
there right now.

1134
00:51:13,660 --> 00:51:13,980
Hold on.

1135
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:14,480
Thank you.

1136
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:22,710


1137
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:24,090
So we called it a purpose.

1138
00:51:24,090 --> 00:51:25,810
We didn't call it a
mission statement.

1139
00:51:25,810 --> 00:51:35,710


1140
00:51:35,710 --> 00:51:38,230
The purpose of the
finance advisory committee

1141
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:41,150
is to provide advice and
recommendations to the Waldo

1142
00:51:41,150 --> 00:51:44,170
County commissioners regarding
County reserve funds,

1143
00:51:44,170 --> 00:51:47,830
including appropriate reserve
targets and opportunities

1144
00:51:47,830 --> 00:51:52,070
for account consolidation and
other financial matters referred

1145
00:51:52,070 --> 00:51:53,990
to the committee for review.

1146
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:56,730
The committee will review
the county's budget process,

1147
00:51:56,730 --> 00:51:58,830
reserves and other
financial information

1148
00:51:58,830 --> 00:52:01,950
and provide recommendations
to improve transparency,

1149
00:52:01,950 --> 00:52:04,090
strengthen long term
financial planning,

1150
00:52:04,090 --> 00:52:08,510
and support sound
financial decision making.

1151
00:52:08,510 --> 00:52:10,390
Thank you.

1152
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:12,470
Maybe that could just
be emailed to us.

1153
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:13,970
Sure, I'd like to
sit a little longer,

1154
00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:17,070
but thank you so much for that.

1155
00:52:17,070 --> 00:52:20,310
I want to say that.

1156
00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:24,330
The four community
members Vicki.

1157
00:52:24,330 --> 00:52:25,370
Ugly with no.

1158
00:52:25,370 --> 00:52:28,790
Northport Randy
place with Murrell.

1159
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:31,490
James gillway with searsport.

1160
00:52:31,490 --> 00:52:32,270
Thank you.

1161
00:52:32,270 --> 00:52:37,810
And Tammy Higgins from Stockton
springs have been incredible.

1162
00:52:37,810 --> 00:52:39,630
They have been very devoted.

1163
00:52:39,630 --> 00:52:42,150
We're stay focused.

1164
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:43,710
We're on target.

1165
00:52:43,710 --> 00:52:49,470
And I will say that this Friday
we are going up to the jail

1166
00:52:49,470 --> 00:52:50,770
and having our meeting up there.

1167
00:52:50,770 --> 00:52:52,230
They're being given a tour.

1168
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:56,890
They've started having they
started reviewing budget,

1169
00:52:56,890 --> 00:53:00,550
and they met with the Sheriff
and the chief last Friday

1170
00:53:00,550 --> 00:53:03,410
and started going over their
budget, asking questions,

1171
00:53:03,410 --> 00:53:07,270
clarification, and they'll be
doing the same with the jail.

1172
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:09,750
So I'm excited to see
what Friday brings.

1173
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:10,250
That's great.

1174
00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:10,870
Thank you.

1175
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:12,830
Yes next.

1176
00:53:12,830 --> 00:53:17,760
The only other thing finance
related is I have my once.

1177
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:26,900


1178
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:33,820
The first one is an opioid
warrant 0 funding motion.

1179
00:53:33,820 --> 00:53:37,260
I'll second question.

1180
00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:40,740
So have we released any of the
opioid funds that were approved

1181
00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:43,060
on the initial grant awards.

1182
00:53:43,060 --> 00:53:47,180
The only thing that we
have awarded and sent

1183
00:53:47,180 --> 00:53:52,200
a check was for R3 for 36,500.

1184
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,460
OK, so was that.

1185
00:53:55,460 --> 00:53:59,180
In the prior warrant,
that was three warrants.

1186
00:53:59,180 --> 00:54:01,340
I believe that was 716.

1187
00:54:01,340 --> 00:54:02,440
OK got it.

1188
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,140
Thank you very much.

1189
00:54:05,140 --> 00:54:06,500
Any discussion.

1190
00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:07,160
Call the question.

1191
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,140
All those in favor.

1192
00:54:08,140 --> 00:54:08,960
Motion passes.

1193
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:09,520
Thank you.

1194
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:18,740


1195
00:54:18,740 --> 00:54:20,720
It's been reduced to
just initials, I think.

1196
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:24,460
Tim has to thank you.

1197
00:54:24,460 --> 00:54:29,300
The County accounts
payable for three.

1198
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:36,320
Sorry for nine
326 is $40,998.39.

1199
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,180
That's 40998.39.

1200
00:54:40,180 --> 00:54:45,040
Payroll for 824
was 197,008 2255.

1201
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,460
That's 197822.55.

1202
00:54:49,460 --> 00:54:55,220
A grand total of $238,820.94.

1203
00:54:55,220 --> 00:55:02,140
That's 238820.94.

1204
00:55:02,140 --> 00:55:06,100
I move we approve the County
warrant for September three

1205
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:10,040
in the amount of $238,820.94.

1206
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:17,730
So first, second discussion
within that $40,998.39.

1207
00:55:17,730 --> 00:55:19,030
Is that routine.

1208
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:22,010
Or since we passed that
motion for anything

1209
00:55:22,010 --> 00:55:28,190
greater than $1,000, this
is all routine or routine.

1210
00:55:28,190 --> 00:55:29,810
Yeah OK.

1211
00:55:29,810 --> 00:55:32,490
There's nothing that stands out.

1212
00:55:32,490 --> 00:55:34,130
All right.

1213
00:55:34,130 --> 00:55:35,030
I'll call the question.

1214
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:36,170
All those in favor.

1215
00:55:36,170 --> 00:55:37,510
Motion carries unanimously.

1216
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:38,250
Thank you.

1217
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:55,410
Jail OK.

1218
00:55:55,410 --> 00:56:02,150
The jail warrant for
9 three is 56,799.

1219
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:13,470
35 payroll for 824 was 57,000
to 85 a grand total of $84.75.

1220
00:56:13,470 --> 00:56:17,010
That's 114084.75.

1221
00:56:17,010 --> 00:56:22,670
We approve the jail warrant
of $114,084.75 for 9 three.

1222
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:23,670
Second first.

1223
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:25,250
Second discussion.

1224
00:56:25,250 --> 00:56:26,690
Same question on the AP.

1225
00:56:26,690 --> 00:56:27,310
Same thing.

1226
00:56:27,310 --> 00:56:28,070
Same thing.

1227
00:56:28,070 --> 00:56:29,250
Thank you.

1228
00:56:29,250 --> 00:56:29,910
Call the question.

1229
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:31,130
All those in favor.

1230
00:56:31,130 --> 00:56:32,730
Motion motion
carries unanimously.

1231
00:56:32,730 --> 00:56:33,230
Thank you.

1232
00:56:33,230 --> 00:56:38,810


1233
00:56:38,810 --> 00:56:40,450
Thank you.

1234
00:56:40,450 --> 00:56:41,870
OK OK.

1235
00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:43,490
Thank you.

1236
00:56:43,490 --> 00:56:45,110
That is all I have for finance.

1237
00:56:45,110 --> 00:56:45,950
County clerk.

1238
00:56:45,950 --> 00:57:04,170


1239
00:57:04,170 --> 00:57:04,910
Excuse me.

1240
00:57:04,910 --> 00:57:10,680


1241
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:11,500
All right.

1242
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:15,680


1243
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,680
As part of the report.

1244
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,120
I gave you a little packet of.

1245
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,740
And I know you're going
to talk about it later.

1246
00:57:23,740 --> 00:57:25,720
So we can hold off
if you would like.

1247
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,880
And this is the old business
related to opioid contracts.

1248
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,080
So I can hold off
on that if you wish.

1249
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,580
And you wish to discuss
that by yourselves.

1250
00:57:36,580 --> 00:57:38,100
I just want to make
sure we'll hold on that.

1251
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:40,000
Great thank you.

1252
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,280
Then would you let me.

1253
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,320
I think we can accomplish quite
a little bit of discussion

1254
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,320
just by going through the
budget that I tried to update

1255
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,000
for you folks based on your
request to make reductions

1256
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,900
where we thought possible.

1257
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:56,220
But of course, this
is your budget,

1258
00:57:56,220 --> 00:58:00,760
and you folks can absolutely
decide what you want to do.

1259
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,720
That's also in front of you.

1260
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,340
You had already made reductions.

1261
00:58:05,340 --> 00:58:10,800
You can see those under
the commissioner requested.

1262
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,200
As you look down.

1263
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,360
But I highlighted the additional
ones that I thought we could

1264
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,840
live without for another year.

1265
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,180
One thing to be in
full disclosure.

1266
00:58:20,180 --> 00:58:22,880
Equipment repairs and leases.

1267
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:28,360
I had not realized at the time
that funding is being cared

1268
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,880
for under the information
technology budget

1269
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,840
so that was because of the it
shouldn't have been in there.

1270
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,400
Printer copier program.

1271
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,100
Yep correct.

1272
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:37,340
I didn't know that at the time.

1273
00:58:37,340 --> 00:58:42,120
So that's why that was
removed and zeroed out.

1274
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,720
Also, could you Barb on
that line for equipment

1275
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,400
repairs leases.

1276
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,540
Can you change the budget.

1277
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:54,700
Notes to copier has
been moved to the.

1278
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:55,860
It moved.

1279
00:58:55,860 --> 00:58:57,900
Sure department it.

1280
00:58:57,900 --> 00:58:58,860
Budget thank you.

1281
00:58:58,860 --> 00:59:04,160
Yes and then with
brief discussion

1282
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,150
with Commissioner Pinkham.

1283
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:10,650
We had some ideas about not
necessarily spending money.

1284
00:59:10,650 --> 00:59:13,290
If we can avoid it on
the County bicentennial,

1285
00:59:13,290 --> 00:59:15,310
come up with some other ideas.

1286
00:59:15,310 --> 00:59:18,230
I have been trying
to look for grants.

1287
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:21,930
We missed the window
in 2026 and by grants.

1288
00:59:21,930 --> 00:59:24,230
I guess I'm still thinking
maybe we could have

1289
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:26,170
some kind of a banner
hanging on a building,

1290
00:59:26,170 --> 00:59:28,690
but that is entirely
up to you, folks.

1291
00:59:28,690 --> 00:59:34,590
But that was the thought
process behind that reduction.

1292
00:59:34,590 --> 00:59:37,670
And then moving on
to office supplies.

1293
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:38,890
Can you make the same note.

1294
00:59:38,890 --> 00:59:39,890
Move to it.

1295
00:59:39,890 --> 00:59:44,510
Budget for $2,000.

1296
00:59:44,510 --> 00:59:47,630
It was a yeah,
whatever the amount is.

1297
00:59:47,630 --> 00:59:48,470
Oh, wait a minute.

1298
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:52,350
What supplies you need to
change the description.

1299
00:59:52,350 --> 00:59:55,990
Do you think is toner
still included in there.

1300
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:59,710
No and that's why if you look
over in notes, I struck it out.

1301
00:59:59,710 --> 01:00:02,990
All right.

1302
01:00:02,990 --> 01:00:05,310
But OK.

1303
01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:06,770
So you're down in office supply.

1304
01:00:06,770 --> 01:00:09,730
So anyway, looking at our
history, looking at last year,

1305
01:00:09,730 --> 01:00:11,770
I'm going to do my
best to keep it low.

1306
01:00:11,770 --> 01:00:15,470
So I dropped another
100 from that.

1307
01:00:15,470 --> 01:00:18,750
And then after again,
thinking about it

1308
01:00:18,750 --> 01:00:22,410
we'll just keep the chairs if
that's what you want to do.

1309
01:00:22,410 --> 01:00:25,810
And for another year and
do that another time.

1310
01:00:25,810 --> 01:00:27,030
So those are my thoughts.

1311
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:28,170
Please feel free to.

1312
01:00:28,170 --> 01:00:30,790


1313
01:00:30,790 --> 01:00:36,270
So let's go back up to the
liability insurance you actually

1314
01:00:36,270 --> 01:00:38,950
received in writing a quote.

1315
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:42,070
The increase that
will be probably

1316
01:00:42,070 --> 01:00:43,850
end of September, early October.

1317
01:00:43,850 --> 01:00:45,710
But that was the
estimate provided

1318
01:00:45,710 --> 01:00:47,730
by Malcolm Ulmer estimate.

1319
01:00:47,730 --> 01:00:49,670
He usually estimates high.

1320
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:51,970
So far we've never
gone over his estimate.

1321
01:00:51,970 --> 01:00:53,010
Usually we're under.

1322
01:00:53,010 --> 01:00:53,990
So I'm hopeful.

1323
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:57,170
When we get that estimate.

1324
01:00:57,170 --> 01:00:59,490
And it's during the
Budget Committee process.

1325
01:00:59,490 --> 01:01:01,370
Do we alter it during that.

1326
01:01:01,370 --> 01:01:02,210
OK, great.

1327
01:01:02,210 --> 01:01:08,140
Yep one question I had was where
we've done a number of union

1328
01:01:08,140 --> 01:01:10,980
negotiations this year.

1329
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:15,660
Is there money we can take
out of legal services on union

1330
01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:17,400
contract negotiations
for next year,

1331
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,980
since there won't
be as many to do.

1332
01:01:20,980 --> 01:01:23,240
Is there any union
contracts come up next year.

1333
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,060
No, no we don't.

1334
01:01:27,060 --> 01:01:29,800
I think we have one.

1335
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,080
One is what I thought.

1336
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,820
But there were how
many this year three.

1337
01:01:33,820 --> 01:01:36,580
So in my mind, and I
know they're probably

1338
01:01:36,580 --> 01:01:42,260
not all created equal in terms
of what we end up spending.

1339
01:01:42,260 --> 01:01:42,800
I will come.

1340
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,440
Can I get back to you
on how many we have.

1341
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,480
Or if you want me to
step out for a second,

1342
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,580
I can quickly look at the covers
because we have the years.

1343
01:01:49,580 --> 01:01:50,760
I don't think we have any union.

1344
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,860
I'll be right back.

1345
01:01:51,860 --> 01:01:58,540
So this goes until 28.

1346
01:01:58,540 --> 01:01:59,380
It just got.

1347
01:01:59,380 --> 01:02:01,360
It just got ratified in 24.

1348
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,120
It's a three year contract,
so that would go 25.

1349
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,780
It was ratified in.

1350
01:02:05,780 --> 01:02:06,560
You're right.

1351
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:07,120
I'm sorry.

1352
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,140
You're right.

1353
01:02:08,140 --> 01:02:09,080
Yeah OK.

1354
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:14,740


1355
01:02:14,740 --> 01:02:18,740
The deputies ends in 2027.

1356
01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:22,820
Yeah and the.

1357
01:02:22,820 --> 01:02:23,720
There's two.

1358
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,700


1359
01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:29,360
And then the communications.

1360
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,080
For some reason I'm
having trouble doing that.

1361
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,800
Starts in 2027.

1362
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,960
So, yeah, I think we
only have the one.

1363
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,640
We got one.

1364
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,060


1365
01:02:39,060 --> 01:02:40,760
Two ended in 2026.

1366
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,520
And then one had dragged.

1367
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,620
I think so yes.

1368
01:02:45,620 --> 01:02:47,100
It's a reduction for sure.

1369
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:52,620
Does that come out of our
professional services line item

1370
01:02:52,620 --> 01:02:53,320
if we use it.

1371
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,260
Attorney yes.

1372
01:02:55,260 --> 01:02:58,080
Part of that also comes
out of HR 2, doesn't it.

1373
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,330
Don't we split it.

1374
01:02:59,330 --> 01:03:04,330
If a grievance is
involved, just grievance.

1375
01:03:04,330 --> 01:03:05,930
Yeah, I'm thinking
of just the cost

1376
01:03:05,930 --> 01:03:11,130
of having our representative
at the table with us

1377
01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:14,290
during those meetings and the
Bills that we get for that.

1378
01:03:14,290 --> 01:03:17,570
I will say that is not the
only thing that happens

1379
01:03:17,570 --> 01:03:19,110
for legal with commissioners.

1380
01:03:19,110 --> 01:03:23,690
Sometimes there are questions
that come up that are no, I'm

1381
01:03:23,690 --> 01:03:27,070
just we don't have a breakdown.

1382
01:03:27,070 --> 01:03:27,930
A good question.

1383
01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:31,250
Yeah, it's a good
thought because I think

1384
01:03:31,250 --> 01:03:32,990
the last week bill we got from.

1385
01:03:32,990 --> 01:03:38,030
Was it Bernstein Sure Bernstein
Shur was for over $3,000.

1386
01:03:38,030 --> 01:03:40,710
And I don't know how
many sit down meetings.

1387
01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:42,430
I can't recall how
many that covered.

1388
01:03:42,430 --> 01:03:44,610
But if we're going to have
fewer of those next year,

1389
01:03:44,610 --> 01:03:46,770
that's a good chunk of money
that we could potentially

1390
01:03:46,770 --> 01:03:50,650
take out of that line item
assuming it was a lot of phone

1391
01:03:50,650 --> 01:03:52,770
calls to not just
meeting, but yes,

1392
01:03:52,770 --> 01:03:53,990
communication back and forth.

1393
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:56,770
And yes, the HR director
and I sit down together

1394
01:03:56,770 --> 01:04:01,770
and look at the Bills and try to
figure out which ones were more

1395
01:04:01,770 --> 01:04:04,850
HR related, driven
grievances or what have you

1396
01:04:04,850 --> 01:04:08,310
or and which are
commissioner driven.

1397
01:04:08,310 --> 01:04:10,290
So we split them up carefully.

1398
01:04:10,290 --> 01:04:14,970
OK I don't what do you
think's a good idea moving

1399
01:04:14,970 --> 01:04:18,970
forward for finalizing that.

1400
01:04:18,970 --> 01:04:20,270
He went up on his rate.

1401
01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:25,650
Maybe it's a good idea to look
at the history for the last 10

1402
01:04:25,650 --> 01:04:29,190
years and/or five years or.

1403
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:30,470
Well, no, I would just.

1404
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:34,410
Maybe just to the thought of
whatever contract is coming up

1405
01:04:34,410 --> 01:04:38,610
next year, could we see
how many hours would

1406
01:04:38,610 --> 01:04:40,490
we have the invoices
to be able to see

1407
01:04:40,490 --> 01:04:42,850
how many hours of
negotiation and support

1408
01:04:42,850 --> 01:04:44,990
we needed based
on that contract.

1409
01:04:44,990 --> 01:04:45,590
We'll revisit.

1410
01:04:45,590 --> 01:04:47,210
We'll take a look
at the invoices.

1411
01:04:47,210 --> 01:04:47,710
Thank you.

1412
01:04:47,710 --> 01:04:52,050
I keep them for six years.

1413
01:04:52,050 --> 01:04:54,930
I wouldn't touch it.

1414
01:04:54,930 --> 01:04:56,070
I leave it the same.

1415
01:04:56,070 --> 01:05:00,490


1416
01:05:00,490 --> 01:05:02,110
Let's see if we'll take a look.

1417
01:05:02,110 --> 01:05:03,550
See if we can do
some cost accounting.

1418
01:05:03,550 --> 01:05:06,690
But I tend to agree
with Tim on that one.

1419
01:05:06,690 --> 01:05:13,210
Now, when you look at what
you expended in 2025 and 2026.

1420
01:05:13,210 --> 01:05:15,710
And I can go back.

1421
01:05:15,710 --> 01:05:17,790
We can look at previous
years if you'd like.

1422
01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:20,050
That wouldn't be hard.

1423
01:05:20,050 --> 01:05:24,770
I see us in 27
spending a lot of time

1424
01:05:24,770 --> 01:05:28,450
if the unions don't get
all of what they want,

1425
01:05:28,450 --> 01:05:30,470
having more
conversations with legal.

1426
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:37,330


1427
01:05:37,330 --> 01:05:43,930
So overall then we're
looking for the commissioners

1428
01:05:43,930 --> 01:06:09,760
budget increases
of 7.8% Anybody see

1429
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,980
anything else on this budget.

1430
01:06:11,980 --> 01:06:18,280


1431
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:19,180
Dues we.

1432
01:06:19,180 --> 01:06:21,180
That was a firm on dues.

1433
01:06:21,180 --> 01:06:23,200
Barb yes.

1434
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,340
Dues was a firm cost
increase as far as I know.

1435
01:06:27,340 --> 01:06:31,360
Yes if and again if we
get different information

1436
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,040
along the way, I always bring
it up because any reduction

1437
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,480
is a good reduction.

1438
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:45,120
But as far as those are the
anticipated amounts of the dues.

1439
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,640
The one that might
be in question

1440
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:52,200
is the one related to mcca,
because I think some of that's

1441
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,000
based on the
liability insurance.

1442
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,520
So that might change for
miles, meals and lodging.

1443
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,180
Just as an example,
it was offered to me.

1444
01:07:02,180 --> 01:07:04,120
I wasn't able to make
it work schedule wise,

1445
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,480
schedule wise, to go to the
main county's convention.

1446
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,840
And I could have had
a hotel room paid for

1447
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,040
and that sort of thing
through those line items.

1448
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,480
If we know that a
commissioner is not

1449
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,020
even if I were to say if I
were to attend that next year,

1450
01:07:20,020 --> 01:07:22,040
I wouldn't ask for that.

1451
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:26,480
Does that give us any wiggle
room in those we would

1452
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:27,520
need to know now in order to.

1453
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,420
Is that what you're saying.

1454
01:07:28,420 --> 01:07:29,900
Could we reduce
that item if I said,

1455
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:33,300
I'm never going to ask you
for a hotel room in 2027?

1456
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:36,460
Yes if I go, I'll
consider it my own thing.

1457
01:07:36,460 --> 01:07:39,060
I'd be OK with doing that.

1458
01:07:39,060 --> 01:07:41,840
But I also it's an
uncomfortable thing

1459
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,480
because it's an
individual choice

1460
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,760
A person can make, not
something that we as a board

1461
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,560
agree to with fairness.

1462
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,990
And sometimes you don't know
what opportunities come up

1463
01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:51,750
that are great for
new commissioners

1464
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:56,970
to be able to attend, I know
that Kerry and I are going.

1465
01:07:56,970 --> 01:07:58,490
We're riding together.

1466
01:07:58,490 --> 01:07:59,650
We are not staying.

1467
01:07:59,650 --> 01:08:02,350
Yeah so we understand
and we try to do what

1468
01:08:02,350 --> 01:08:07,150
we can to learn what
we can, but at the most

1469
01:08:07,150 --> 01:08:10,390
reduced cost as possible.

1470
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:13,950
Barb, on the percentage
change column,

1471
01:08:13,950 --> 01:08:16,410
I think you need to take a
look at those percentages.

1472
01:08:16,410 --> 01:08:20,950
Some are positive and
they should be negative.

1473
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:24,390
Just take a look at
the formulas on that.

1474
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:25,689
Just recheck those.

1475
01:08:25,689 --> 01:08:27,370
OK we'll do.

1476
01:08:27,370 --> 01:08:31,750


1477
01:08:31,750 --> 01:08:35,510
Because I think
that 10.89% there.

1478
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:39,729
Well that's a change
that I'm getting 7.8.

1479
01:08:39,729 --> 01:08:40,550
But OK.

1480
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:42,050
Just check your percentages.

1481
01:08:42,050 --> 01:08:48,029
Absolutely I don't know maybe we
reduce the lodging down to 1,300

1482
01:08:48,029 --> 01:08:50,750
or something like that.

1483
01:08:50,750 --> 01:08:53,069
Given what I just said.

1484
01:08:53,069 --> 01:08:53,569
Where are you.

1485
01:08:53,569 --> 01:08:54,910
Where are you at.

1486
01:08:54,910 --> 01:08:57,010
Lodging is line 11 right now.

1487
01:08:57,010 --> 01:08:57,770
It's at 15.

1488
01:08:57,770 --> 01:09:06,189
20 I can usually find a
acquaintance or a family member

1489
01:09:06,189 --> 01:09:09,350
in the neighborhood of
wherever we might go.

1490
01:09:09,350 --> 01:09:10,950
If I need a couch.

1491
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:12,950
Can you adopt me then.

1492
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:16,810
Like, remember me from
college 20 years ago.

1493
01:09:16,810 --> 01:09:20,670


1494
01:09:20,670 --> 01:09:23,529
So if you just take that
lodging line at 15, 20,

1495
01:09:23,529 --> 01:09:27,490
and I just want to round
it for whatever reason,

1496
01:09:27,490 --> 01:09:32,370
250 a night at o'clock
point, basically 6.1 nights.

1497
01:09:32,370 --> 01:09:41,990


1498
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:44,590
I think it's four nights.

1499
01:09:44,590 --> 01:09:45,840
You want to drop it.

1500
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,979
Yeah why don't we just do 1,000.

1501
01:09:48,979 --> 01:09:51,460
You good with 1,000.

1502
01:09:51,460 --> 01:09:53,640
I mean, you and I haven't
really done anything, but.

1503
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:58,360
Yeah, I. OK $1,000.

1504
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:13,380
Drop it to 1,000.

1505
01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:15,340
Anything else.

1506
01:10:15,340 --> 01:10:17,240
Just that we have to
remember these things.

1507
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,740
When the Budget Committee says,
can you do fewer hotel stays.

1508
01:10:20,740 --> 01:10:22,220
Like we already did that.

1509
01:10:22,220 --> 01:10:26,640
I'm keeping my old spreadsheets
because the notes are on it.

1510
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,960
Yep all right.

1511
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,740
So we know during
the budget process

1512
01:10:31,740 --> 01:10:35,900
that line 13
liability insurance,

1513
01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:39,300
we update as we
receive hard quotes.

1514
01:10:39,300 --> 01:10:40,040
Anything else.

1515
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:48,560
Updates any other updates
you get during the cycle.

1516
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,920
Or is everything
pretty much locked.

1517
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,100
Usually it comes to the
liability insurance always comes

1518
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:57,240
in after we start
the budget process,

1519
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,240
and dues are sometimes
connected to that.

1520
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,420
So those are the
two that can change.

1521
01:11:01,420 --> 01:11:03,840
And so we're going to take
a look at the invoices.

1522
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,380
Go back on professional
services just

1523
01:11:05,380 --> 01:11:07,540
to see if we can
see a trend there

1524
01:11:07,540 --> 01:11:10,120
and do some cost accounting
on that liability insurance.

1525
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,360
Awaiting on the update.

1526
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:19,100


1527
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:21,380
I don't see anything
else from you guys

1528
01:11:21,380 --> 01:11:24,860
and revisit the percentages.

1529
01:11:24,860 --> 01:11:27,540
Yes thank you for the
sacrifice on the chairs.

1530
01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:29,320
If one of these
chairs goes down,

1531
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,420
I'll bring one from my office.

1532
01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:34,620
I just hope a person isn't
in it when it goes down.

1533
01:11:34,620 --> 01:11:35,520
We understand.

1534
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,040
I brought one from
home for in there.

1535
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,300
So it's all good.

1536
01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:43,650
All right.

1537
01:11:43,650 --> 01:11:45,730
What else do you have.

1538
01:11:45,730 --> 01:11:49,530
Can we go back to the
minutes, just for a second.

1539
01:11:49,530 --> 01:11:50,330
Do you.

1540
01:11:50,330 --> 01:11:54,170
How do you want to handle
that tax abatement appeal.

1541
01:11:54,170 --> 01:11:54,950
That was done.

1542
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:58,690
And I know none of you
were here, so I can't

1543
01:11:58,690 --> 01:12:00,850
remember why we were here.

1544
01:12:00,850 --> 01:12:01,510
Oh I'm sorry.

1545
01:12:01,510 --> 01:12:02,030
You asked.

1546
01:12:02,030 --> 01:12:04,870
Correct I don't know
if that was voted on.

1547
01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:08,450
I think that was Brooks.

1548
01:12:08,450 --> 01:12:09,270
Yes Brooks.

1549
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:10,390
Yeah, we already voted on that.

1550
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:12,910
OK no, it's the approval
of the minutes for that.

1551
01:12:12,910 --> 01:12:14,230
Yes that didn't get approved.

1552
01:12:14,230 --> 01:12:16,290
And we've been waiting for
when because I can't vote

1553
01:12:16,290 --> 01:12:19,810
on that because I.
You can abstain Yeah

1554
01:12:19,810 --> 01:12:21,250
Have you read those minutes.

1555
01:12:21,250 --> 01:12:21,750
Have you seen.

1556
01:12:21,750 --> 01:12:23,290
I thought we already
approved them.

1557
01:12:23,290 --> 01:12:24,150
I didn't think you did.

1558
01:12:24,150 --> 01:12:26,870
I thought your motion,
please correct me, was for.

1559
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:30,350
The motion was for 16.

1560
01:12:30,350 --> 01:12:33,390
16 Yeah, but have we seen
the minutes for Brooks.

1561
01:12:33,390 --> 01:12:34,950
The 220, 25 before.

1562
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:35,790
I sent them to you.

1563
01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:36,570
Twice yeah.

1564
01:12:36,570 --> 01:12:37,070
You did.

1565
01:12:37,070 --> 01:12:38,190
Yep emailed them.

1566
01:12:38,190 --> 01:12:40,510
Just put it on the
agenda for the 17,

1567
01:12:40,510 --> 01:12:43,450
and Tim and I will vote
on that separately.

1568
01:12:43,450 --> 01:12:47,170
I'll have to hunt for them.

1569
01:12:47,170 --> 01:12:49,450
So that's 917.

1570
01:12:49,450 --> 01:12:49,950
All right.

1571
01:12:49,950 --> 01:12:50,450
Very good.

1572
01:12:50,450 --> 01:12:53,270
Would you I'm going to just
hand since they are printed,

1573
01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:55,130
I'm going to give you the
minutes if it's OK with you

1574
01:12:55,130 --> 01:12:56,390
from August 6.

1575
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:59,170
And I apologize for
not sending them.

1576
01:12:59,170 --> 01:13:01,610
Sometimes I lose track of
these things when I'm not.

1577
01:13:01,610 --> 01:13:03,190
So August 6 will go on.

1578
01:13:03,190 --> 01:13:05,290
Yes 917.

1579
01:13:05,290 --> 01:13:06,230
Yes thank you.

1580
01:13:06,230 --> 01:13:09,330
OK thank you.

1581
01:13:09,330 --> 01:13:12,190
And nice format.

1582
01:13:12,190 --> 01:13:14,450
Thank you.

1583
01:13:14,450 --> 01:13:15,590
That would be Danielle.

1584
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:17,350
She is working
really hard at that.

1585
01:13:17,350 --> 01:13:20,530


1586
01:13:20,530 --> 01:13:22,350
Let's see what else
I have for you.

1587
01:13:22,350 --> 01:13:27,210


1588
01:13:27,210 --> 01:13:30,870
I think that is it
for my part of things.

1589
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:35,050
Tracy did ask me to present a
couple of things to you folks.

1590
01:13:35,050 --> 01:13:36,690
Knows that for.

1591
01:13:36,690 --> 01:13:38,660
That's for the human
resources report,

1592
01:13:38,660 --> 01:13:40,980
and that is that an
executive session 1 will.

1593
01:13:40,980 --> 01:13:43,100
The tail end will be and
I'm not presenting that.

1594
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:45,520
I'm to hand the folder
to you and walk away.

1595
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,900
So what does Tracy what are you
going to record things for you.

1596
01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:55,620
She has put together a
draft technology policy.

1597
01:13:55,620 --> 01:13:57,480
May I get that to you.

1598
01:13:57,480 --> 01:14:02,800
Yeah sorry.

1599
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:03,760
Thank you.

1600
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,560
Yes so this is.

1601
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,780
This is the technology policy.

1602
01:14:08,780 --> 01:14:11,860
She did not expect you to make
any decisions on it today,

1603
01:14:11,860 --> 01:14:13,640
but wanted you to have it.

1604
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:14,140
All right.

1605
01:14:14,140 --> 01:14:15,960
So we're going to
table this tonight.

1606
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,460
I've read through I had some
questions about some of it,

1607
01:14:18,460 --> 01:14:21,880
but I had asked
about an AI policy

1608
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,160
because I had heard
in various reports

1609
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,600
from department heads
about casual, just usage

1610
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,500
of like ChatGPT and
things like that,

1611
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:32,700
and wanted to make
sure that in my job,

1612
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:36,520
how I use AI is really regulated
because of private information.

1613
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,240
I want to make sure that
we had it written down

1614
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:44,040
in our handbook that basically
to protect people in the County

1615
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,600
from using AI and
putting into it

1616
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,240
information that we
don't want put into.

1617
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:48,740
Good point.

1618
01:14:48,740 --> 01:14:50,920
Yeah very good point.

1619
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,300
And just at the
first read through,

1620
01:14:53,300 --> 01:14:55,360
I thought this
looked really good.

1621
01:14:55,360 --> 01:15:00,620
And I love the part that
said like about that.

1622
01:15:00,620 --> 01:15:02,120
It shouldn't be a
replacement for face

1623
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,480
to face and human
interaction that that's

1624
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:07,640
something that we value.

1625
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:08,420
Oh OK.

1626
01:15:08,420 --> 01:15:12,960
So table this until 917.

1627
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:19,180
And I'm not going to use AI
to double check section five.

1628
01:15:19,180 --> 01:15:20,433
Just so for the record.

1629
01:15:20,433 --> 01:15:22,200
Yeah the other thing that's
in there that's important

1630
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,040
is check your work.

1631
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,220
Yes What else do
you have for Tracy.

1632
01:15:27,220 --> 01:15:29,720
I believe she
presented the detective

1633
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,040
job description to you.

1634
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:31,960
Yes she did.

1635
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,390
And also the
emergency Management

1636
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:36,650
Agency communications
technician,

1637
01:15:36,650 --> 01:15:39,750
and there were some edits.

1638
01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:43,350
She gave me one copy
of each, and she

1639
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:44,990
was hoping you would
approve them because she

1640
01:15:44,990 --> 01:15:46,170
did make those edits.

1641
01:15:46,170 --> 01:15:47,470
I'm going to give them to you.

1642
01:15:47,470 --> 01:15:49,090
OK good job.

1643
01:15:49,090 --> 01:15:53,550
The titles were
EMA communications.

1644
01:15:53,550 --> 01:15:58,390
And is this the pronunciation
struggle we had.

1645
01:15:58,390 --> 01:16:02,010
Could very well be.

1646
01:16:02,010 --> 01:16:04,790
And the only other thing
I'm going to hand to you

1647
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:06,770
is that she.

1648
01:16:06,770 --> 01:16:07,770
There's a note on it.

1649
01:16:07,770 --> 01:16:11,910
She said keep the original,
so please do that.

1650
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:14,770
So I'm supposed to keep
someone's supposed to keep the.

1651
01:16:14,770 --> 01:16:15,810
Oh, that's an executive.

1652
01:16:15,810 --> 01:16:16,890
OK yes it is.

1653
01:16:16,890 --> 01:16:18,690
All right is I move.

1654
01:16:18,690 --> 01:16:20,910
We approve the
emergency Management

1655
01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:26,690
Agency communications technician
update as of eight 2026.

1656
01:16:26,690 --> 01:16:33,270
And the detective job
description as of 8, 7, 726.

1657
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:33,970
First second.

1658
01:16:33,970 --> 01:16:34,790
Any more discussion.

1659
01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:35,290
Hearing none.

1660
01:16:35,290 --> 01:16:35,970
All those in favor.

1661
01:16:35,970 --> 01:16:37,590
Motion carries.

1662
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:47,350
That's all.

1663
01:16:47,350 --> 01:16:48,610
That's all I have for you.

1664
01:16:48,610 --> 01:17:10,110


1665
01:17:10,110 --> 01:17:16,430
Do you want to hand these
people so we don't lose them.

1666
01:17:16,430 --> 01:17:18,590
Thank you.

1667
01:17:18,590 --> 01:17:19,950
Thank you very much, Kobe.

1668
01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:21,030
That's it for air.

1669
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:21,530
It is.

1670
01:17:21,530 --> 01:17:24,910
All right then we have.

1671
01:17:24,910 --> 01:17:28,510
So we need to go to executive
session for an HR issue.

1672
01:17:28,510 --> 01:17:32,420
It's Mrs. Subchapter 14056a.

1673
01:17:32,420 --> 01:17:34,400
And let me know when
we're off record.

1674
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:44,260


1675
01:17:44,260 --> 01:17:45,360
You can stay on.

1676
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,940


1677
01:17:47,940 --> 01:17:48,560
Thank you.

1678
01:17:48,560 --> 01:18:28,260


1679
01:18:28,260 --> 01:18:30,780
First yes.

1680
01:18:30,780 --> 01:18:32,720
OK thanks, Mark.

1681
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:37,500


1682
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:40,500
Thank you.

1683
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:41,480
Oh good catch.

1684
01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:45,260
Yeah so this is Waldo
County commissioners

1685
01:18:45,260 --> 01:18:47,200
court session, September three.

1686
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:52,380
We are back in session, and
we have some action to take.

1687
01:18:52,380 --> 01:18:55,840
I move that we
approve the offer.

1688
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,320
The letter of offer
of employment,

1689
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,420
retroactive June 4, 2026 for
employment with the County

1690
01:19:00,420 --> 01:19:01,700
of Waldo.

1691
01:19:01,700 --> 01:19:02,760
First do I have a second.

1692
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:03,840
Second I have a second.

1693
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,100
Any more discussion.

1694
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:05,720
Hearing none.

1695
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:06,740
All those in favor.

1696
01:19:06,740 --> 01:19:10,540
Motion is unanimous.

1697
01:19:10,540 --> 01:19:15,060
Next who handed this to me.

1698
01:19:15,060 --> 01:19:16,020
Barb Barb.

1699
01:19:16,020 --> 01:19:17,160
Filling in for Tracy.

1700
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,560
Yeah next on the agenda.

1701
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,260
Do you need me to
take that back to her.

1702
01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:25,460
Is the opioid contracts
the first one.

1703
01:19:25,460 --> 01:19:26,990
Let's just go to the first one.

1704
01:19:26,990 --> 01:19:33,250
There's been a change in the
situation with the grant package

1705
01:19:33,250 --> 01:19:38,370
that was submitted by
Tennessee holistic health,

1706
01:19:38,370 --> 01:19:44,170
and we need to rescind that
motion to approve that grant.

1707
01:19:44,170 --> 01:19:51,050
I think they lost one of
their backers out in Sears.

1708
01:19:51,050 --> 01:19:52,190
In searsmont.

1709
01:19:52,190 --> 01:19:55,610
And so they don't
have the property that

1710
01:19:55,610 --> 01:19:57,350
was involved in that grant.

1711
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:58,550
So we need a motion.

1712
01:19:58,550 --> 01:20:00,350
I'll put the motion
on the table.

1713
01:20:00,350 --> 01:20:05,530
Motion to rescind the grant
to panacea holistic health

1714
01:20:05,530 --> 01:20:07,390
under the opioid funding.

1715
01:20:07,390 --> 01:20:09,510
Second oh I have a first.

1716
01:20:09,510 --> 01:20:10,070
I have a second.

1717
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:11,650
Any more discussion
hearing none call

1718
01:20:11,650 --> 01:20:14,610
the question motion carries OK.

1719
01:20:14,610 --> 01:20:19,190
Next one is I know we approved
this grant is just a formality.

1720
01:20:19,190 --> 01:20:24,290
Now is motion to approve the
contract for Brooks ambulance

1721
01:20:24,290 --> 01:20:26,730
company between the
County of Waldo and Brooks

1722
01:20:26,730 --> 01:20:29,570
ambulance for contract
periods August 1, 2026

1723
01:20:29,570 --> 01:20:32,450
through July 31, 2027.

1724
01:20:32,450 --> 01:20:35,370
In the contract
amount of 50,000,

1725
01:20:35,370 --> 01:20:43,250
contract number is WC
0 a or yeah 0 a 2026

1726
01:20:43,250 --> 01:20:46,190
Brooks ambulance dash 0 one.

1727
01:20:46,190 --> 01:20:48,450
Do I have a motion
to approve motion.

1728
01:20:48,450 --> 01:20:50,650
I have it first, second.

1729
01:20:50,650 --> 01:20:52,170
All those in favor.

1730
01:20:52,170 --> 01:20:53,710
Motion carries unanimous.

1731
01:20:53,710 --> 01:20:59,170


1732
01:20:59,170 --> 01:21:04,930
Agreement may I ask a question.

1733
01:21:04,930 --> 01:21:06,910
Sure Do you want
me to pay them now,

1734
01:21:06,910 --> 01:21:12,610
or do you want me to wait until
the 17th to present the warrant.

1735
01:21:12,610 --> 01:21:15,610
What's the reason for
the two different dates.

1736
01:21:15,610 --> 01:21:16,830
Oh, I couldn't hear you.

1737
01:21:16,830 --> 01:21:17,670
Oh I'm sorry.

1738
01:21:17,670 --> 01:21:19,690
Do you want me to
pay them today,

1739
01:21:19,690 --> 01:21:21,450
or do you want me to
wait till the 17th

1740
01:21:21,450 --> 01:21:22,990
when I present the warrant.

1741
01:21:22,990 --> 01:21:23,950
Present the warrant.

1742
01:21:23,950 --> 01:21:25,510
17th did you.

1743
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:26,350
17th yeah.

1744
01:21:26,350 --> 01:21:28,610
OK thank you.

1745
01:21:28,610 --> 01:21:30,050
Next one.

1746
01:21:30,050 --> 01:21:31,810
So that contract.

1747
01:21:31,810 --> 01:21:33,810
I think you get this one.

1748
01:21:33,810 --> 01:21:37,910
Yes next one is contract between
the County of Washoe and DOA.

1749
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:40,450


1750
01:21:40,450 --> 01:21:44,330
Northern New England contract
period August 1, 2026

1751
01:21:44,330 --> 01:21:47,290
through July 31, 2027.

1752
01:21:47,290 --> 01:21:50,870
Contract amount is $91,500.00.

1753
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:58,650
Contract number is WC 0 a
tac 2026 tac VOA tac 0 one.

1754
01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:00,290
Motion to approve.

1755
01:22:00,290 --> 01:22:01,090
So moved.

1756
01:22:01,090 --> 01:22:01,710
I have a first.

1757
01:22:01,710 --> 01:22:02,610
I have a second.

1758
01:22:02,610 --> 01:22:03,890
Second discussion.

1759
01:22:03,890 --> 01:22:09,690
Discussion what's the increased
amount from last year.

1760
01:22:09,690 --> 01:22:14,610
This is under the opioid
agreement, I believe.

1761
01:22:14,610 --> 01:22:15,190
Yes it is.

1762
01:22:15,190 --> 01:22:16,590
It's under the opioid agreement.

1763
01:22:16,590 --> 01:22:22,360
So it's under that the
grants for the opioid.

1764
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,120
Another point of discussion.

1765
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,280
Does that answer your question.

1766
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,700
Yeah another point
of discussion.

1767
01:22:28,700 --> 01:22:38,080
If it's just a little concern,
I know in the scope of work

1768
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,680
that they have 50 to 40 to
50 unduplicated individuals

1769
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:42,880
annually.

1770
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:50,620
If you divide 50 into
2000, that's 41.6 patients.

1771
01:22:50,620 --> 01:22:52,340
I think that number is low.

1772
01:22:52,340 --> 01:22:54,280
And hopefully they'll
reach out to more

1773
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:55,920
individuals in that case.

1774
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,780
But I know the
nature of the beast.

1775
01:22:57,780 --> 01:22:59,200
Sometimes you have
multiple appointments

1776
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,620
and that does take
up additional time.

1777
01:23:01,620 --> 01:23:03,000
So yes.

1778
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,840
But isn't that based
off of our population.

1779
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,520
Yes so I mean,
potentially it could

1780
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,113
be more it could be a lot more.

1781
01:23:11,113 --> 01:23:12,380
And they're going
to do the reporting.

1782
01:23:12,380 --> 01:23:14,380
It's an individual and they're
going to do the reporting.

1783
01:23:14,380 --> 01:23:17,720
So was this for I'm sorry I'm
trying to remember if this was

1784
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,680
a position that's
starting now, or if it's

1785
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,040
meant to be starting in 2027.

1786
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,200
I'm just thinking in terms of
timing of paying and reducing

1787
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,840
our reliance on the TAM.

1788
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,920
If I remember correctly,
they're looking to FTE

1789
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,980
and we're starting that
process once this was approved.

1790
01:23:32,980 --> 01:23:34,700
Does that answer your question.

1791
01:23:34,700 --> 01:23:35,660
Yeah OK.

1792
01:23:35,660 --> 01:23:39,480
I'd like to just pay
that as late as possible.

1793
01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:42,800
That discussion was that
they would be paid quarterly

1794
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,780
based on reportings
reports that they gave,

1795
01:23:45,780 --> 01:23:48,440
which is outlined how
they are to report

1796
01:23:48,440 --> 01:23:50,600
to us in one payment
is in the contract

1797
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,960
that you're signing
first payment.

1798
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,460
They're not even
getting a first payment.

1799
01:23:54,460 --> 01:23:57,480
They have to pay us the
report and then the.

1800
01:23:57,480 --> 01:23:58,380
And then they get paid.

1801
01:23:58,380 --> 01:23:59,180
Great yes.

1802
01:23:59,180 --> 01:24:00,640
Thank you.

1803
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,680
Any more discussion.

1804
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:03,180
Hearing none.

1805
01:24:03,180 --> 01:24:03,780
Call the question.

1806
01:24:03,780 --> 01:24:04,560
All those in favor.

1807
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,080
Motion carries unanimously.

1808
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,560
Thank you.

1809
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,000
Commissioners, I
realize it still

1810
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,080
says draft on both of those.

1811
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,020
Oh, you want to take it off.

1812
01:24:12,020 --> 01:24:13,480
I'm printing them off right now.

1813
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:13,980
All right.

1814
01:24:13,980 --> 01:24:15,640
Print it off now.

1815
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,930
Yeah, we'll wait a little bit.

1816
01:24:17,930 --> 01:24:21,550


1817
01:24:21,550 --> 01:24:22,330
Good catch.

1818
01:24:22,330 --> 01:24:28,950


1819
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:29,930
Go get those.

1820
01:24:29,930 --> 01:24:36,990
I'll be right back Mr.
Chairman, may I ask a question

1821
01:24:36,990 --> 01:25:06,250
No May I approach with the
original draft on them.

1822
01:25:06,250 --> 01:25:07,030
Thank you.

1823
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:08,910
So we got a clean copy.

1824
01:25:08,910 --> 01:25:11,630
Yes thank you.

1825
01:25:11,630 --> 01:25:13,190
Thank you.

1826
01:25:13,190 --> 01:25:14,290
That's OK.

1827
01:25:14,290 --> 01:25:15,350
All right.

1828
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:36,230


1829
01:25:36,230 --> 01:25:36,890
There's two.

1830
01:25:36,890 --> 01:25:37,950
You got them.

1831
01:25:37,950 --> 01:25:39,390
Thank you very much.

1832
01:25:39,390 --> 01:25:43,510
All originals
suitable for framing.

1833
01:25:43,510 --> 01:25:45,310
Thank you.

1834
01:25:45,310 --> 01:25:45,810
That's it.

1835
01:25:45,810 --> 01:25:47,430
On the contracts.

1836
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:52,790
Next old business is further
discussion of the 2027 budget.

1837
01:25:52,790 --> 01:25:53,810
What do we have.

1838
01:25:53,810 --> 01:26:01,350


1839
01:26:01,350 --> 01:26:06,710
I don't know where you'd like
to begin, but I have some items.

1840
01:26:06,710 --> 01:26:14,340
One is last year we used opioid
settlement funds to help fund

1841
01:26:14,340 --> 01:26:17,460
medically assisted treatment.

1842
01:26:17,460 --> 01:26:19,900
And I wondered if we were
going to be requesting

1843
01:26:19,900 --> 01:26:21,800
that from the opioid committee.

1844
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:25,740
It also, I'm seeing that the
opioid committee is doling out

1845
01:26:25,740 --> 01:26:27,700
50,000 less than
it thought it would

1846
01:26:27,700 --> 01:26:29,940
be this year
because of the issue

1847
01:26:29,940 --> 01:26:32,140
with panacea holistic health.

1848
01:26:32,140 --> 01:26:34,900
And so perhaps that
might be an opportunity

1849
01:26:34,900 --> 01:26:36,940
to ask the opioid
committee if they would

1850
01:26:36,940 --> 01:26:42,180
support mat in this budget.

1851
01:26:42,180 --> 01:26:45,560
It also that question
in general speaks to.

1852
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,340


1853
01:26:48,340 --> 01:26:52,500
Concern I have
around what revenues

1854
01:26:52,500 --> 01:26:56,100
we include as part of
the budgeting process

1855
01:26:56,100 --> 01:27:00,100
and what ones are at the
purview of the commissioners

1856
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:03,420
after the budget process.

1857
01:27:03,420 --> 01:27:07,320
Some of these revenues,
like opioid funds,

1858
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,740
and I think it was the
revitalization fund that got put

1859
01:27:10,740 --> 01:27:15,020
toward the jail seemed to be
handled in a different way

1860
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:18,220
than revenue in general.

1861
01:27:18,220 --> 01:27:19,720
Let's back up to
the first question.

1862
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,620
Yeah you had
multiple parts to it.

1863
01:27:22,620 --> 01:27:23,720
Opioid funds.

1864
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:28,280
I know last year that we reduce
correct me if I'm wrong, Carrie,

1865
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,860
that we reduced the
medical line by $100,000

1866
01:27:31,860 --> 01:27:36,460
because we're going to
use $100,000 of the opioid

1867
01:27:36,460 --> 01:27:40,420
to subsidize that line item.

1868
01:27:40,420 --> 01:27:42,940
How are we doing right now.

1869
01:27:42,940 --> 01:27:44,280
What's the Department number 10.

1870
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,240
What for.

1871
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:47,280
Jail 10.

1872
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:48,360
1010 sorry.

1873
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,640
1050 should be in the book
unless you put it in order.

1874
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,820


1875
01:27:55,820 --> 01:27:56,760
How are we.

1876
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,600
How is the invoices doing
on the medical line.

1877
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:04,740
I know that medical line
includes the medical

1878
01:28:04,740 --> 01:28:06,480
for the 72 hour hold.

1879
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:09,690
And it also includes
the Somerset jail.

1880
01:28:09,690 --> 01:28:15,650
And we've had some on expected
expenses in that line.

1881
01:28:15,650 --> 01:28:18,530
I know we had to do.

1882
01:28:18,530 --> 01:28:21,970
We've had a couple of medical
issues over in our 72 hour hold.

1883
01:28:21,970 --> 01:28:26,150
One 72 hour hold and the
other one is in Somerset.

1884
01:28:26,150 --> 01:28:29,590
It was greater than six
hours, and after six hours,

1885
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:30,890
then we have to
provide a corrections

1886
01:28:30,890 --> 01:28:37,310
officer to sit with the inmate
or resident in the hospital.

1887
01:28:37,310 --> 01:28:44,450
So I have not seen any
invoices with those situations

1888
01:28:44,450 --> 01:28:47,450
come across my desk yet.

1889
01:28:47,450 --> 01:28:49,870
So we've got some
wild cards there.

1890
01:28:49,870 --> 01:28:53,330


1891
01:28:53,330 --> 01:28:59,530
So what's our current expense
that we know for sure.

1892
01:28:59,530 --> 01:29:02,530
I'm looking that up right now.

1893
01:29:02,530 --> 01:29:07,710
If you get the most current year
to date expense in percentage.

1894
01:29:07,710 --> 01:29:11,170


1895
01:29:11,170 --> 01:29:11,830
I'll have to.

1896
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:17,610


1897
01:29:17,610 --> 01:29:19,330
Try to take one
question at a time.

1898
01:29:19,330 --> 01:29:20,030
Thank you.

1899
01:29:20,030 --> 01:29:22,770


1900
01:29:22,770 --> 01:29:36,410
So as of right now, we
have spent $220,387.16.

1901
01:29:36,410 --> 01:29:37,110
Say that again.

1902
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:46,690
220 220,387 16.

1903
01:29:46,690 --> 01:29:49,310
That's up almost
100,000 since mid-year.

1904
01:29:49,310 --> 01:29:52,710
Number that's amazing.

1905
01:29:52,710 --> 01:29:56,730


1906
01:29:56,730 --> 01:30:01,690
Yeah we pay mapped
out of that line.

1907
01:30:01,690 --> 01:30:04,510
And that ranges
anywhere from let's see.

1908
01:30:04,510 --> 01:30:06,880
The low has been 20,000.

1909
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:12,240
The high has been 38,000 a year.

1910
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:16,080
No so this is the first time
we're doing this Matt invoice.

1911
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,100
Oh from Somerset.

1912
01:30:18,100 --> 01:30:20,260
So how often do we
get the invoice.

1913
01:30:20,260 --> 01:30:21,180
Monthly monthly.

1914
01:30:21,180 --> 01:30:22,280
I was like that's.

1915
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:28,880
Yeah and I feel like.

1916
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,120
So that's mostly Matt.

1917
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:33,480
That's what that sounds like.

1918
01:30:33,480 --> 01:30:35,400
Yes right now.

1919
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:42,200
Yeah they reduce I know the cost
of the subacute shot reduced

1920
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,920
briefly to 340B pricing.

1921
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,880
But then after meeting
with Matt Magnusson

1922
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,340
they lost that pricing.

1923
01:30:51,340 --> 01:30:53,820
So I think it went back up.

1924
01:30:53,820 --> 01:30:57,840


1925
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:04,720
So I of that $300,000 that we
thought were going to spend what

1926
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,840
we thought we were going
to spend $400 and we added

1927
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,460
hundreds of revenue to get.

1928
01:31:08,460 --> 01:31:10,760
So we're at o'clock o'clock
o'clock, call it 220,

1929
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,440
$220,000 right now.

1930
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:16,480
But we've got a couple
invoices out there for sure

1931
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:17,820
that you haven't seen.

1932
01:31:17,820 --> 01:31:22,100
Yeah and you still have.

1933
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:22,980
What month are we in.

1934
01:31:22,980 --> 01:31:25,260
September you still have
September, October, November,

1935
01:31:25,260 --> 01:31:27,960
December of not coming in.

1936
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,860
But again, it's 400,000.

1937
01:31:29,860 --> 01:31:31,640
Really and that's why
my second question

1938
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,960
is there because I
question us using

1939
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,020
revenue to reduce budget items.

1940
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:41,260
Because it's not actually we
budgeted 400,000 for that.

1941
01:31:41,260 --> 01:31:42,700
We didn't budget 300,000.

1942
01:31:42,700 --> 01:31:43,620
We budgeted 400.

1943
01:31:43,620 --> 01:31:45,120
And then we found revenue.

1944
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,680
And we've had department heads
come back at us this year

1945
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,280
and say, hey, look, my budget
numbers are out of whack

1946
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,600
because of this revenue.

1947
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,520
Are you saying there's a cliff.

1948
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,360
Yeah, well, we talked
about the cliff,

1949
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:59,220
but I'm in favor of using
that money for Matt.

1950
01:31:59,220 --> 01:32:04,490
I'm just talking about the
way we organize is right.

1951
01:32:04,490 --> 01:32:06,650
But we should be using
some of it for math.

1952
01:32:06,650 --> 01:32:09,630
Absolutely but then it
gets us back to the part.

1953
01:32:09,630 --> 01:32:11,950
Are we doing stuff in
our community with it.

1954
01:32:11,950 --> 01:32:13,530
I think we're trying.

1955
01:32:13,530 --> 01:32:16,010
Yeah we're trying to do both.

1956
01:32:16,010 --> 01:32:20,350
We're trying to do that and
the task force approach.

1957
01:32:20,350 --> 01:32:23,830
But I'm saying when we have
our revenues, like from deeds

1958
01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:28,910
or other things, I think
that we should include

1959
01:32:28,910 --> 01:32:31,630
these types of offsets
in that rather than

1960
01:32:31,630 --> 01:32:34,030
in each department's budget.

1961
01:32:34,030 --> 01:32:35,090
Oh, I like that idea.

1962
01:32:35,090 --> 01:32:37,470
So that we're actually
seeing the budgeted

1963
01:32:37,470 --> 01:32:41,610
expenses, not a number.

1964
01:32:41,610 --> 01:32:42,390
Say that again.

1965
01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:48,230
So in one thought, I have is
instead of taking our 400,000

1966
01:32:48,230 --> 01:32:50,990
that we're budgeting
in two to 27

1967
01:32:50,990 --> 01:32:55,450
and reducing that in the
budget, let's keep that 400,000.

1968
01:32:55,450 --> 01:32:58,070
Let's add medically
assisted treatment,

1969
01:32:58,070 --> 01:33:03,830
$100,000 from the opioid
committee into our revenue page.

1970
01:33:03,830 --> 01:33:06,350
So if we're going to do it, for
one, are you going to do this.

1971
01:33:06,350 --> 01:33:07,290
That's what I'm thinking.

1972
01:33:07,290 --> 01:33:09,070
Yeah because then the
Department heads aren't

1973
01:33:09,070 --> 01:33:10,610
getting cliffs in their budget.

1974
01:33:10,610 --> 01:33:12,750
It's the purview of
the commissioners.

1975
01:33:12,750 --> 01:33:14,750
That was stated many
times last year.

1976
01:33:14,750 --> 01:33:15,930
Hundreds is revenue.

1977
01:33:15,930 --> 01:33:17,950
Yeah OK.

1978
01:33:17,950 --> 01:33:21,430
Because I think the
220 number is soft.

1979
01:33:21,430 --> 01:33:23,990
I know for a fact
a hospital stay.

1980
01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:27,610
And I know for a fact
ambulance Ed issue.

1981
01:33:27,610 --> 01:33:30,830
I don't know if that turned
into a hospital stay or not.

1982
01:33:30,830 --> 01:33:33,610
I have no idea what those
Bills are going to come in at.

1983
01:33:33,610 --> 01:33:40,310
So I think that $300,000 that
we had in there taken off

1984
01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:41,570
the table just for a second.

1985
01:33:41,570 --> 01:33:44,830
The $100,000 opioid,
I think we're going

1986
01:33:44,830 --> 01:33:50,150
to be over that line for sure.

1987
01:33:50,150 --> 01:33:54,670
So 2 to 25 by 3.

1988
01:33:54,670 --> 01:33:57,590
So we're at 73% right now.

1989
01:33:57,590 --> 01:34:01,680
But that's the 300
and it's really a 400.

1990
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:02,520
It's a 400.

1991
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:09,320
Yeah so I don't
disagree with you,

1992
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:13,500
but this got brought
up back in 23 budget

1993
01:34:13,500 --> 01:34:15,460
and it got a Budget
Committee got

1994
01:34:15,460 --> 01:34:22,180
brought up again 24 before we
jumped on the commissioner and.

1995
01:34:22,180 --> 01:34:27,540
I brought this up because we
charge when you have income

1996
01:34:27,540 --> 01:34:29,500
coming in for inmate housing.

1997
01:34:29,500 --> 01:34:32,520
You have income coming in
for patrol detailing you.

1998
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,220
Have money coming
in from forfeitures.

1999
01:34:35,220 --> 01:34:39,140
You have money coming in
from all these departments.

2000
01:34:39,140 --> 01:34:40,720
It's going to make
it look like that.

2001
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,740
We're making money on things.

2002
01:34:44,740 --> 01:34:46,240
So if we're going
to do it with one,

2003
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,860
we got to do it
with all of them.

2004
01:34:48,860 --> 01:34:50,380
That's a good point.

2005
01:34:50,380 --> 01:34:55,500
And at the time, I'm not going
to throw other commissioners

2006
01:34:55,500 --> 01:34:57,060
under the bus from Paris.

2007
01:34:57,060 --> 01:35:03,140
It was explained to me that
money is put into a reserves

2008
01:35:03,140 --> 01:35:07,220
account, and then they
offset and that but then

2009
01:35:07,220 --> 01:35:09,220
reserve accounts aren't
really showed to us

2010
01:35:09,220 --> 01:35:11,680
at that back in 23 and 24.

2011
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,040
So well then I don't.

2012
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,940
So I'm not disagreeing with
what you're saying at all.

2013
01:35:15,940 --> 01:35:18,080
It's how do you put
it on the paper.

2014
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:22,780
Yeah and not make it look like
so it could be on this page

2015
01:35:22,780 --> 01:35:26,340
rather than if it's
really specific to there

2016
01:35:26,340 --> 01:35:28,960
is a revenue line item at the
bottom of the jail budget.

2017
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:30,400
That's the state revenue.

2018
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:31,800
Can we add a few more of those.

2019
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,320
That's funds.

2020
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:37,220
And then put in the notes
relates to line, blah blah,

2021
01:35:37,220 --> 01:35:38,420
blah, blah blah,
because that's what

2022
01:35:38,420 --> 01:35:39,720
we're trying to offset with it.

2023
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,040
Or opioid funds
relates to line item.

2024
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:44,640
So you're saying put another
add another line in there.

2025
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,160
Yeah revenue for opioids.

2026
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,540
Yep I would agree.

2027
01:35:47,540 --> 01:35:50,660
And the same with the CTA
or the revitalization funds

2028
01:35:50,660 --> 01:35:51,640
or anything.

2029
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:52,940
Essentially what
you're talking about

2030
01:35:52,940 --> 01:35:55,170
is you're asking
to add the profit

2031
01:35:55,170 --> 01:35:57,370
part to the law statement.

2032
01:35:57,370 --> 01:35:58,230
Yeah, basically.

2033
01:35:58,230 --> 01:36:02,010
And it could be the same
for if facilities is

2034
01:36:02,010 --> 01:36:03,750
pulling from a reserve account.

2035
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:05,770
So to fund something
that they're doing

2036
01:36:05,770 --> 01:36:08,070
and put that on the
bottom under revenues.

2037
01:36:08,070 --> 01:36:10,630
I don't disagree with
you on this at all,

2038
01:36:10,630 --> 01:36:12,770
because this is
where my mind would

2039
01:36:12,770 --> 01:36:14,650
have went when we were
talking about doing

2040
01:36:14,650 --> 01:36:17,010
communications contracts.

2041
01:36:17,010 --> 01:36:19,370
But I also think that this
is no different than when

2042
01:36:19,370 --> 01:36:23,490
we contract out our employees
to other facilities.

2043
01:36:23,490 --> 01:36:25,950
We have to be
showing that income.

2044
01:36:25,950 --> 01:36:29,710
So the revenue for the
school resource officer.

2045
01:36:29,710 --> 01:36:34,210
That's something that's paid
for or the correction stuff,

2046
01:36:34,210 --> 01:36:36,370
or when we do a contract
with another County

2047
01:36:36,370 --> 01:36:41,090
to do their dispatching, or if
we're doing patrol details from,

2048
01:36:41,090 --> 01:36:42,770
let's say, common
ground, I was using

2049
01:36:42,770 --> 01:36:47,810
or whatever, we should be
showing if we're making money

2050
01:36:47,810 --> 01:36:51,083
off of these and I can't
remember if and maybe Carrie,

2051
01:36:51,083 --> 01:36:51,950
you can help me with this.

2052
01:36:51,950 --> 01:36:55,130
As an example in the Sheriff's
budget, where school resource

2053
01:36:55,130 --> 01:36:57,690
officers reimburse to us.

2054
01:36:57,690 --> 01:37:01,010
That's typically so what
they do is they show

2055
01:37:01,010 --> 01:37:03,430
that on their personnel page.

2056
01:37:03,430 --> 01:37:08,650
Yep and then they list the
amount there in parentheses.

2057
01:37:08,650 --> 01:37:12,770
And I think they put
reimbursable or it's now

2058
01:37:12,770 --> 01:37:17,530
I will tell you that just
because we are reimbursed

2059
01:37:17,530 --> 01:37:20,650
does not necessarily
mean that we get

2060
01:37:20,650 --> 01:37:26,370
that in the same year that we.

2061
01:37:26,370 --> 01:37:34,530
I think add the line to that
$100,000 is a clear paper trail.

2062
01:37:34,530 --> 01:37:37,250
Where Brianna was
going because you

2063
01:37:37,250 --> 01:37:39,570
have a projected revenue page.

2064
01:37:39,570 --> 01:37:42,570
And I think that if you
add for all departments,

2065
01:37:42,570 --> 01:37:46,210
you could add all of your
revenue into one spot

2066
01:37:46,210 --> 01:37:48,670
and then you can
categorize what it's for.

2067
01:37:48,670 --> 01:37:51,390
Not on the Department,
not on the Department.

2068
01:37:51,390 --> 01:37:54,350
So I think except in the
case of the State funds,

2069
01:37:54,350 --> 01:37:58,510
that's like AI think that
needs to be revisited as well.

2070
01:37:58,510 --> 01:38:01,470
OK I like your
idea of saying, OK,

2071
01:38:01,470 --> 01:38:05,690
this is the expense
all in to run this is

2072
01:38:05,690 --> 01:38:07,490
what it costs to do business.

2073
01:38:07,490 --> 01:38:10,770
And then you have that
revenue page that says, OK,

2074
01:38:10,770 --> 01:38:14,490
we received this for revenue.

2075
01:38:14,490 --> 01:38:17,710
This revenue is offsetting
the overall budget.

2076
01:38:17,710 --> 01:38:20,290
So it matches up with
my tax assessment

2077
01:38:20,290 --> 01:38:23,790
when I go to put that
document together.

2078
01:38:23,790 --> 01:38:25,390
So here's the expense
for the County.

2079
01:38:25,390 --> 01:38:27,010
Here's the expense for the jail.

2080
01:38:27,010 --> 01:38:30,310
Here's the County revenue,
which includes all of this.

2081
01:38:30,310 --> 01:38:34,450
And we list what are these
called the Department number

2082
01:38:34,450 --> 01:38:36,610
Yeah What is that called.

2083
01:38:36,610 --> 01:38:39,190
1050 1050 cost center.

2084
01:38:39,190 --> 01:38:39,830
Cost center.

2085
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:42,090
And we align each item
in the revenue sheet

2086
01:38:42,090 --> 01:38:43,070
with the cost center.

2087
01:38:43,070 --> 01:38:45,270
And I think that would
be clearer to the public.

2088
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:46,890
I think it paints
a better picture

2089
01:38:46,890 --> 01:38:49,460
than going to the expense.

2090
01:38:49,460 --> 01:38:51,360
And here's your revenue.

2091
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,440
It can be.

2092
01:38:54,440 --> 01:38:56,360
I think it looks cleaner.

2093
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,460
I think it looks cleaner
doing it that way.

2094
01:38:58,460 --> 01:39:02,200
And I think it's a better
situation for department heads

2095
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:05,240
because they're not on for the
cliff when we or the Budget

2096
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:06,480
Committee says, all
right, but we're

2097
01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:08,740
going to pull from blah,
blah blah to cover that,

2098
01:39:08,740 --> 01:39:09,660
then that's not on them.

2099
01:39:09,660 --> 01:39:11,400
They didn't actually
make that decision.

2100
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,880
We did.

2101
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,040
That makes sense to me.

2102
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:17,960
You're good with that.

2103
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,260
So let's go back to $100,000.

2104
01:39:20,260 --> 01:39:22,600
When do we want to pull it.

2105
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,000
Well I think motion on it.

2106
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,720
Should we just make
a motion to request

2107
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,800
$100,000 from the opioid
committee for the 2027

2108
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,400
inmate medical budget.

2109
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,040
Was that what that
would look like.

2110
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,800
Well, a request
to the committee.

2111
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,320
They've already been notified.

2112
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,740
So really, the legal
authority rests with us.

2113
01:39:41,740 --> 01:39:51,080
So if it's $100,000, then we can
do it now or we can do it 17th.

2114
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:52,220
I'm flexible.

2115
01:39:52,220 --> 01:39:54,880


2116
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,040
Whatever you want.

2117
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,100
Yeah, let's do it.

2118
01:39:59,100 --> 01:39:59,760
The seventh.

2119
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,380
When I present my warrant,
there'll be an article.

2120
01:40:02,380 --> 01:40:05,440
Well, there'll be a
request for $100,000

2121
01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:09,620
to the County jail based on
the 20 approval of 2026 budget.

2122
01:40:09,620 --> 01:40:11,920
Now, are you talking about
adding asking for another

2123
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,460
$100,000 for 2027 seven.

2124
01:40:14,460 --> 01:40:18,160
Because we already
did that for 2026.

2125
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,560
OK OK.

2126
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:21,060
All right.

2127
01:40:21,060 --> 01:40:25,480
So we'll do that the 17th then.

2128
01:40:25,480 --> 01:40:26,820
What was your other questions.

2129
01:40:26,820 --> 01:40:29,880


2130
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,420
Well I don't know if you want to
go into special appropriations,

2131
01:40:32,420 --> 01:40:39,540
but sure, let's have that
discussion number 1080 1080.

2132
01:40:39,540 --> 01:40:40,060
Thank you.

2133
01:40:40,060 --> 01:40:43,920


2134
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:45,020
You have 1080.

2135
01:40:45,020 --> 01:40:49,910
1082 005.

2136
01:40:49,910 --> 01:40:51,430
Yeah, I got it.

2137
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:55,310
And so you have
Cooperative Extension

2138
01:40:55,310 --> 01:40:59,910
and you can't remember
their numbers.

2139
01:40:59,910 --> 01:41:05,350
So we had a Total Request
per our requirements

2140
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:08,770
based on your 15 question form
that they have to fill out.

2141
01:41:08,770 --> 01:41:14,670
They submitted $132,389.50.

2142
01:41:14,670 --> 01:41:19,550
So far I think we have approved.

2143
01:41:19,550 --> 01:41:20,690
Correct me if I'm wrong.

2144
01:41:20,690 --> 01:41:23,090
Waldo cap for 5,000.

2145
01:41:23,090 --> 01:41:25,670
Was that conditional
or was it approved.

2146
01:41:25,670 --> 01:41:28,470
Bar I'm sorry, what was
that question again.

2147
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:29,170
We approved.

2148
01:41:29,170 --> 01:41:31,410
Yeah I've got check
marks next to Waldo cap.

2149
01:41:31,410 --> 01:41:34,910
Firefighters and
firefighters from cogs 10

2150
01:41:34,910 --> 01:41:37,410
and then 3 for Winslow
community cupboard.

2151
01:41:37,410 --> 01:41:40,030
If it were up to me, I would
ask to revisit all of them

2152
01:41:40,030 --> 01:41:41,990
because I want to
change my mind.

2153
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:43,710
But we can do.

2154
01:41:43,710 --> 01:41:44,690
That ship has sailed.

2155
01:41:44,690 --> 01:41:47,390


2156
01:41:47,390 --> 01:41:48,370
Why don't we visit.

2157
01:41:48,370 --> 01:41:50,910


2158
01:41:50,910 --> 01:41:54,470
I personally don't,
but I'm open to it.

2159
01:41:54,470 --> 01:41:56,550
It is what it is.

2160
01:41:56,550 --> 01:41:57,770
All right, so what do you want.

2161
01:41:57,770 --> 01:41:59,870
To revisit each
one individually.

2162
01:41:59,870 --> 01:42:01,390
Or do you want to
take an aggregate.

2163
01:42:01,390 --> 01:42:01,930
I'll tell you.

2164
01:42:01,930 --> 01:42:05,230
My thinking is that I want to
continue to support the Waldo

2165
01:42:05,230 --> 01:42:08,670
County firefighters
association to the 5,000,

2166
01:42:08,670 --> 01:42:12,510
because I see them as a direct
partner in the work that we do.

2167
01:42:12,510 --> 01:42:16,990
In terms of first
responding in terms of EMA.

2168
01:42:16,990 --> 01:42:22,010
I would consider Waldo cap,
but I don't want to do.

2169
01:42:22,010 --> 01:42:24,990
I want to do 0 for the rest
because I really believe that we

2170
01:42:24,990 --> 01:42:27,110
cannot be making donations
given the financial

2171
01:42:27,110 --> 01:42:28,210
position that we're in.

2172
01:42:28,210 --> 01:42:31,670


2173
01:42:31,670 --> 01:42:36,470
I also think that if we're going
to continue to consider working

2174
01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:38,130
with mid-coast council
of governments,

2175
01:42:38,130 --> 01:42:39,810
that they're not a
special appropriations,

2176
01:42:39,810 --> 01:42:41,740
they're a contracted
professional service

2177
01:42:41,740 --> 01:42:45,160
or dues that they shouldn't
have been in this.

2178
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,860


2179
01:42:47,860 --> 01:42:49,940
But I would rescind
my tank on that

2180
01:42:49,940 --> 01:42:52,060
simply because we
don't know what grants

2181
01:42:52,060 --> 01:42:53,600
we want to go for next year.

2182
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,060
I would like to be
in a better position

2183
01:42:55,060 --> 01:43:02,140
to know how we're going to
utilize that $10,000 with them.

2184
01:43:02,140 --> 01:43:02,800
It's a mouthful.

2185
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:03,300
I'm sorry.

2186
01:43:03,300 --> 01:43:04,820
I have too many
thoughts all at once.

2187
01:43:04,820 --> 01:43:06,560
That's all I'm trying to digest.

2188
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,300
Yeah, I take our
I take our total

2189
01:43:09,300 --> 01:43:11,500
appropriations down
to five or 10,000

2190
01:43:11,500 --> 01:43:14,040
this year from the 12 5 last.

2191
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:17,380


2192
01:43:17,380 --> 01:43:19,420
May I add my cents.

2193
01:43:19,420 --> 01:43:24,360
Sure it's not cents.

2194
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:26,920
It's going to be 501 because
I got negative 3 coming.

2195
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:28,560
We don't take pennies anymore.

2196
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:33,780
Now, I take what Briana
said a little bit further.

2197
01:43:33,780 --> 01:43:35,920
And I'm not a heartless guy.

2198
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:36,800
I really am not.

2199
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:41,100
But we got items in
this budget this year

2200
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:46,940
that we must, must find.

2201
01:43:46,940 --> 01:43:50,580
And to say to these people
that we can't fund this

2202
01:43:50,580 --> 01:43:53,900
and we can't fund that
while we're passing out,

2203
01:43:53,900 --> 01:43:56,980
what's the total amount
of money requested.

2204
01:43:56,980 --> 01:43:59,200
Total total was 132,000.

2205
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:01,720
But I think right now we're
looking at 5:00 o'clock, 10,

2206
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,760
20, 23,000 is where we're at.

2207
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:12,260
I'm going to get very excited
that 132,000 would pay for.

2208
01:44:12,260 --> 01:44:16,900
That 132,000 would go a long
way toward paying for Jason.

2209
01:44:16,900 --> 01:44:23,740
So there are things on these
that I would really like to fund

2210
01:44:23,740 --> 01:44:25,980
because I see the purpose.

2211
01:44:25,980 --> 01:44:28,500
But we're a place
where we can't.

2212
01:44:28,500 --> 01:44:29,400
I don't know how you do it.

2213
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,000
I'm glad I don't have to make
the decision you guys make.

2214
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:36,780
But I'll tell you right now,
we're at a critical stage

2215
01:44:36,780 --> 01:44:40,050
on of personnel in this office.

2216
01:44:40,050 --> 01:44:42,030
And I see it.

2217
01:44:42,030 --> 01:44:44,370
I've seen it for 20 years.

2218
01:44:44,370 --> 01:44:48,170
We need to address it before
we address anything else.

2219
01:44:48,170 --> 01:44:49,190
It's got to be.

2220
01:44:49,190 --> 01:44:50,270
It's got to be.

2221
01:44:50,270 --> 01:44:53,210


2222
01:44:53,210 --> 01:44:57,030
Whatever the fiasco is
going to be, got to do that.

2223
01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:58,570
This is a staff accountant.

2224
01:44:58,570 --> 01:45:00,990
This which was recommended
by the auditor.

2225
01:45:00,990 --> 01:45:03,610
And when we get into
the budget process

2226
01:45:03,610 --> 01:45:11,170
and we add support for it and
we add support for finance, that

2227
01:45:11,170 --> 01:45:13,130
adding staff is
always the first thing

2228
01:45:13,130 --> 01:45:15,850
that's going to be questioned.

2229
01:45:15,850 --> 01:45:20,170
Well, I want to feel like we did
everything that we could to make

2230
01:45:20,170 --> 01:45:23,110
that a yes for
people, this office,

2231
01:45:23,110 --> 01:45:26,370
I've been doing
this for 26 years.

2232
01:45:26,370 --> 01:45:29,810
This office has been
understaffed for 26 years.

2233
01:45:29,810 --> 01:45:33,170
Understaffed one
person departments

2234
01:45:33,170 --> 01:45:34,790
can't continue to do that.

2235
01:45:34,790 --> 01:45:37,170
It's reckless.

2236
01:45:37,170 --> 01:45:38,410
It's just.

2237
01:45:38,410 --> 01:45:42,110
How long are we going to
ask our IT guy to work.

2238
01:45:42,110 --> 01:45:46,350
24/7 How much longer
are we going to do that.

2239
01:45:46,350 --> 01:45:46,870
He's been.

2240
01:45:46,870 --> 01:45:48,530
How long are we going
to continue to keep

2241
01:45:48,530 --> 01:45:51,530
on to carry on, to carry it.

2242
01:45:51,530 --> 01:45:53,970
Director has been here
for how many years.

2243
01:45:53,970 --> 01:45:57,190
Six years 7 going
on 7, six years.

2244
01:45:57,190 --> 01:46:02,530
24/7 And he's already told and
stated for the record that if he

2245
01:46:02,530 --> 01:46:05,950
doesn't have an assistant IT
person to work with next year,

2246
01:46:05,950 --> 01:46:08,210
he will not be here.

2247
01:46:08,210 --> 01:46:09,730
So that's on the record.

2248
01:46:09,730 --> 01:46:11,630
And I think that's fair.

2249
01:46:11,630 --> 01:46:13,690
I don't think that
that's some people view

2250
01:46:13,690 --> 01:46:15,110
things like that as a threat.

2251
01:46:15,110 --> 01:46:17,350
But I just think that that's
what it takes to do the job.

2252
01:46:17,350 --> 01:46:20,170
And what do you
expect of people.

2253
01:46:20,170 --> 01:46:20,910
They have a life.

2254
01:46:20,910 --> 01:46:22,430
They have a family every time.

2255
01:46:22,430 --> 01:46:26,610
It's really important to us to
be on Zoom for this meeting.

2256
01:46:26,610 --> 01:46:29,190
And when we say we want
to do an extra meeting,

2257
01:46:29,190 --> 01:46:32,450
we need that technology
to be able to do that when

2258
01:46:32,450 --> 01:46:34,160
we get together on
a Saturday like we

2259
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:35,420
did for special appropriation.

2260
01:46:35,420 --> 01:46:37,180
So when we talk about
health and safety,

2261
01:46:37,180 --> 01:46:40,000
our deputies on a
rotational call,

2262
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,440
our 911 are on a
rotational call.

2263
01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:46,400
Our corrections are
on a rotational call.

2264
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:50,060
It has no rotational call.

2265
01:46:50,060 --> 01:46:52,260
Period so I agree
with you, brie.

2266
01:46:52,260 --> 01:46:55,560
I said, I think
we need to cut it.

2267
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,660
I have no doubt in my mind
the firefighters association,

2268
01:46:58,660 --> 01:46:59,580
that's health and safety.

2269
01:46:59,580 --> 01:47:04,240
I have no issues with
the $5,000 request.

2270
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:05,340
Waldo cap is the one.

2271
01:47:05,340 --> 01:47:07,600
I'm struggling with the rest.

2272
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:11,320
I think they got to go
simply because of what we're

2273
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,880
up against in
especially with medical

2274
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:18,820
we keep bringing this up
and trying to fix medical,

2275
01:47:18,820 --> 01:47:21,080
but medical is
costing us thousands

2276
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:25,220
and thousands of dollars and
we have to change the program.

2277
01:47:25,220 --> 01:47:29,020
We're waiting on the latest
bid requests for that.

2278
01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:30,120
We won't.

2279
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:35,600
The soft increase is about
22% and they'll Harden

2280
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:39,140
up that percentage increase.

2281
01:47:39,140 --> 01:47:42,940
The closer we get in
October maybe the last week,

2282
01:47:42,940 --> 01:47:44,320
the first week of
November is really

2283
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:48,520
where we get that harder
increased percentage rate is

2284
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,080
based on the 24 month history.

2285
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:55,420
But whatever it is, I guarantee
it's going to be about 15,

2286
01:47:55,420 --> 01:47:57,380
18% somewhere in that range.

2287
01:47:57,380 --> 01:48:00,360
We're seeing what happens
in County government

2288
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,440
when we have turnover
of staff as well.

2289
01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:06,720
And what a mess that
creates, what a turnover

2290
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:07,880
puts on the rest of the.

2291
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:08,380
And then.

2292
01:48:08,380 --> 01:48:10,667
And then the actual cost
you hire somebody new.

2293
01:48:10,667 --> 01:48:12,000
They're looking at
what those people are

2294
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:13,680
getting paid in other counties.

2295
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,120
And unfortunately
they're getting

2296
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:18,440
paid more than they are here.

2297
01:48:18,440 --> 01:48:20,780
So put a motion on the table.

2298
01:48:20,780 --> 01:48:23,400


2299
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:27,080
I move we approve $5,000 for
the Waldo County firefighters

2300
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:29,910
association and no other
special appropriations

2301
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:31,370
request for the 2027.

2302
01:48:31,370 --> 01:48:33,090
Put a second on
that for discussion.

2303
01:48:33,090 --> 01:48:34,210
Any more discussion.

2304
01:48:34,210 --> 01:48:36,130
Absolutely Jim.

2305
01:48:36,130 --> 01:48:39,030


2306
01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:44,470
Are we or are we not, in
a world where a contract

2307
01:48:44,470 --> 01:48:47,550
is more than just a handshake.

2308
01:48:47,550 --> 01:48:48,990
We are.

2309
01:48:48,990 --> 01:48:51,230
And we had each one of
these special appropriations

2310
01:48:51,230 --> 01:48:55,190
come here and plead
their case about why

2311
01:48:55,190 --> 01:48:58,990
their special appropriation
was important.

2312
01:48:58,990 --> 01:49:01,450
And now we are talking
about cutting them.

2313
01:49:01,450 --> 01:49:04,030


2314
01:49:04,030 --> 01:49:07,830
But yet we also talk
about integrity.

2315
01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:12,790
So we've made a deal with
special appropriations

2316
01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:16,630
push this off to Budget
Committee to now turn around

2317
01:49:16,630 --> 01:49:23,830
and rescind on our deal just
because we changed our mind.

2318
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:27,550
That's essentially
what I'm hearing.

2319
01:49:27,550 --> 01:49:29,610
I feel good about my
personal integrity.

2320
01:49:29,610 --> 01:49:32,670


2321
01:49:32,670 --> 01:49:35,810
So I said it before, we could
push it to Budget Committee.

2322
01:49:35,810 --> 01:49:39,070


2323
01:49:39,070 --> 01:49:44,270
As commissioners.

2324
01:49:44,270 --> 01:49:48,030
The Budget Committee has
authority over the expenses.

2325
01:49:48,030 --> 01:49:51,830
They don't have the authority
over the salary expense.

2326
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:56,070
And I understand
that part fully.

2327
01:49:56,070 --> 01:50:00,830
The problem is when it comes
to tough decision leaders,

2328
01:50:00,830 --> 01:50:02,370
leaders take a stance.

2329
01:50:02,370 --> 01:50:06,150
And it's not always.

2330
01:50:06,150 --> 01:50:09,550
Not always portrayed
in a great light

2331
01:50:09,550 --> 01:50:11,990
because it's controversial.

2332
01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:16,270
This is a controversial
thing, and I

2333
01:50:16,270 --> 01:50:19,350
like to put realistic numbers
before the Budget Committee.

2334
01:50:19,350 --> 01:50:20,950
That makes sense.

2335
01:50:20,950 --> 01:50:22,950
I don't want to put numbers
before the Budget Committee

2336
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:25,670
that OK, we're going to
have a sacrificial Lamb

2337
01:50:25,670 --> 01:50:28,060
and we know they're going to
cut this number just to pass it

2338
01:50:28,060 --> 01:50:30,780
forward, rather than
taking a stance as a leader

2339
01:50:30,780 --> 01:50:33,620
and making that decision before
it goes to a Budget Committee.

2340
01:50:33,620 --> 01:50:36,060
So I don't disagree
with what you're saying.

2341
01:50:36,060 --> 01:50:40,380
But then why did you guys pass
the $10,000 for the mid Coast.

2342
01:50:40,380 --> 01:50:44,140
I am changed my mind on it.

2343
01:50:44,140 --> 01:50:44,800
I don't know.

2344
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,600
I sometimes you think
something's a good idea.

2345
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,000
Then you think about
it and you go what,

2346
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:50,240
I'm going to walk back on that.

2347
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:54,060
And I'm happy to do that in
public for everyone to see.

2348
01:50:54,060 --> 01:50:58,380
In my case, I wanted to see what
the number was for the budget.

2349
01:50:58,380 --> 01:51:01,140
The total budget.

2350
01:51:01,140 --> 01:51:06,080
It's hard to say yes on one
hand and no on the other or.

2351
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,140
No on one hand,
yes on the other.

2352
01:51:08,140 --> 01:51:11,620
But when I'm putting forth,
in a second year in a row,

2353
01:51:11,620 --> 01:51:15,300
a high increased budget
increase, which if you add

2354
01:51:15,300 --> 01:51:17,180
the two percentages
together, it comes out

2355
01:51:17,180 --> 01:51:20,060
to coincidentally
to 38% which was

2356
01:51:20,060 --> 01:51:22,340
what was presented last year.

2357
01:51:22,340 --> 01:51:25,820
I think we need to
be realistic to say,

2358
01:51:25,820 --> 01:51:27,840
last year was a tough
year to pass the budget.

2359
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:32,880
And it was a lot
of budget meetings,

2360
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,820
a lot of consternation over it.

2361
01:51:35,820 --> 01:51:38,720
But in reality, we
got the budget passed.

2362
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,740
I suspect it's going to
happen again this year.

2363
01:51:41,740 --> 01:51:46,980
And, you but we're
fighting an economy

2364
01:51:46,980 --> 01:51:49,320
that's in an inflated position.

2365
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,320
And we have to figure out
how do we stay in business,

2366
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,820
how do we pay our Bills.

2367
01:51:54,820 --> 01:51:59,260
We've pulled down another
$2.2 million on the 10.

2368
01:51:59,260 --> 01:52:02,400
So now we're at $7.7 million
with two different rates.

2369
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:03,840
What's our rates 5, 3, three.

2370
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:08,820
And what's the other rate 5 six.

2371
01:52:08,820 --> 01:52:10,880
No 5454.

2372
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:11,900
Thank you.

2373
01:52:11,900 --> 01:52:15,660
So that's money we
have to pay back.

2374
01:52:15,660 --> 01:52:18,600
And we have to pay back
in a short period of time.

2375
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:23,320
And so we finished
the 21, 22, 23 audits.

2376
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,180
We pretty much know what
our undesignated fund

2377
01:52:25,180 --> 01:52:26,680
balances typically is.

2378
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:29,660
We know what the
reserve accounts are.

2379
01:52:29,660 --> 01:52:31,740
We're in a tenuous position.

2380
01:52:31,740 --> 01:52:36,080
And sometimes you
have to make the call.

2381
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:42,340
And I think personally,
I think the firefighters

2382
01:52:42,340 --> 01:52:45,480
is the one to move forward
after revisiting this.

2383
01:52:45,480 --> 01:52:48,080
And I know it's controversial.

2384
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:52,060
I know all these organizations
do an excellent job.

2385
01:52:52,060 --> 01:52:54,400
They're invested in
their organization.

2386
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:56,420
They're trying to
scramble and keep

2387
01:52:56,420 --> 01:52:59,780
and do their missions,
whatever their missions are

2388
01:52:59,780 --> 01:53:01,300
going forward.

2389
01:53:01,300 --> 01:53:04,420
But we're in a tenuous
position financially,

2390
01:53:04,420 --> 01:53:11,140
and it's every little thing adds
to our financial position not

2391
01:53:11,140 --> 01:53:12,380
getting better.

2392
01:53:12,380 --> 01:53:15,660
We need to get better at this.

2393
01:53:15,660 --> 01:53:20,410
An undesignated fund balance
of 1.2 1.5 million to 1.6 1.7

2394
01:53:20,410 --> 01:53:23,450
million is not enough for
the size of this budget,

2395
01:53:23,450 --> 01:53:26,270
and the reserve accounts are
not enough for this size.

2396
01:53:26,270 --> 01:53:27,470
Budget for the future.

2397
01:53:27,470 --> 01:53:29,690
Even though we're
consolidating when

2398
01:53:29,690 --> 01:53:32,730
you look at roughly $1.8
million for reserves,

2399
01:53:32,730 --> 01:53:34,650
that's not enough
for this County.

2400
01:53:34,650 --> 01:53:37,350
When you look at the
undesignated fund balance,

2401
01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:38,830
that's not enough
for this County.

2402
01:53:38,830 --> 01:53:42,210
And so how do we
change our path.

2403
01:53:42,210 --> 01:53:45,970
We have to change our path to
get where we need to be more

2404
01:53:45,970 --> 01:53:51,050
financially solid in this
position that we're in now

2405
01:53:51,050 --> 01:53:52,970
did not happen last year.

2406
01:53:52,970 --> 01:53:56,850
This has happened over
a period of years.

2407
01:53:56,850 --> 01:53:59,530
And part of it and part
of it is due in part

2408
01:53:59,530 --> 01:54:01,290
to the medical position.

2409
01:54:01,290 --> 01:54:02,910
It's happened over
a period of years,

2410
01:54:02,910 --> 01:54:06,450
and we have to start making
different strides on this

2411
01:54:06,450 --> 01:54:09,170
to get us in a better
financial position, not

2412
01:54:09,170 --> 01:54:10,470
only for the wellness
of the County,

2413
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:12,490
but the wellness for people.

2414
01:54:12,490 --> 01:54:17,850
If we're not well, then we
can't deliver the services.

2415
01:54:17,850 --> 01:54:19,950
And the services are 911.

2416
01:54:19,950 --> 01:54:24,490
Deeds It's probate court,
it's the deputies, it's EMA.

2417
01:54:24,490 --> 01:54:26,670
If you look at the
service that we provide,

2418
01:54:26,670 --> 01:54:29,410
we're pretty streamlined
as a County of the services

2419
01:54:29,410 --> 01:54:32,430
that we provide, for the future.

2420
01:54:32,430 --> 01:54:34,850
I think we need to be looking
at our finances, tighten

2421
01:54:34,850 --> 01:54:37,490
the finances up, and at the same
time looking at the services

2422
01:54:37,490 --> 01:54:40,050
that we should be
providing for the future

2423
01:54:40,050 --> 01:54:42,550
and how do we get there
financially to do that.

2424
01:54:42,550 --> 01:54:45,070
And I think for me,
that's the big issue.

2425
01:54:45,070 --> 01:54:47,410
So I think that explanation
should have been given

2426
01:54:47,410 --> 01:54:51,970
to these people instead of us
approving them to then turn

2427
01:54:51,970 --> 01:54:54,770
around two weeks later, not
approval, because that's

2428
01:54:54,770 --> 01:54:57,850
no different than the comment
about leadership a year ago

2429
01:54:57,850 --> 01:55:00,210
when my health insurance
was taken away.

2430
01:55:00,210 --> 01:55:00,750
All right.

2431
01:55:00,750 --> 01:55:03,350
So I think that we should if
we're going to be transparent.

2432
01:55:03,350 --> 01:55:04,670
We didn't communicate
it to them.

2433
01:55:04,670 --> 01:55:07,250
We approved them, sent
them on their way,

2434
01:55:07,250 --> 01:55:08,543
told them that it
was all good to go.

2435
01:55:08,543 --> 01:55:10,010
And now we're sitting
here saying that we're

2436
01:55:10,010 --> 01:55:12,330
going to take it away.

2437
01:55:12,330 --> 01:55:14,150
That's what we're talking.

2438
01:55:14,150 --> 01:55:17,760
It was up to be taken away
at any point between now

2439
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:19,940
and the end of the
budget process,

2440
01:55:19,940 --> 01:55:23,280
I us approving it pushes it to
Budget Committee for the Budget

2441
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,240
Committee to have a chance.

2442
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:29,000
Those people left here two
weeks ago with in their minds

2443
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:30,980
that we were on the
same page with them.

2444
01:55:30,980 --> 01:55:33,540
If we truly felt
what Kevin is saying,

2445
01:55:33,540 --> 01:55:36,260
we should have told them no and
we should have voted it down.

2446
01:55:36,260 --> 01:55:39,880


2447
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,400
So what if we take a
different approach to this.

2448
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:47,000
What if we just
approve a total amount.

2449
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:51,920
And push it force to
the Budget Committee.

2450
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:55,660
I'm not sold on this.

2451
01:55:55,660 --> 01:55:58,980
We owe something for having
made one decision two weeks ago.

2452
01:55:58,980 --> 01:56:00,220
It's two weeks.

2453
01:56:00,220 --> 01:56:03,620
These are, let's say,
unprecedented times,

2454
01:56:03,620 --> 01:56:04,500
tough decisions.

2455
01:56:04,500 --> 01:56:05,920
People change their mind.

2456
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:08,200
We have the right
to change our mind.

2457
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:11,240
And it's not good.

2458
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:12,920
It's not ideal.

2459
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:16,820
But I feel like I mean,
you may be watching now,

2460
01:56:16,820 --> 01:56:19,900
but I feel like we can
communicate to this people,

2461
01:56:19,900 --> 01:56:21,560
this to people.

2462
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:25,600
I think that we can do things to
partner more strongly with some

2463
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:26,700
of these organizations.

2464
01:56:26,700 --> 01:56:30,320
We've heard, we heard today
that about the relationship

2465
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:32,900
between our garden and
the Belfast soup kitchen.

2466
01:56:32,900 --> 01:56:35,280
We can look for ways to better
support them through things

2467
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:37,600
that we already do.

2468
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:41,040
We talk to Waldo and how
can we better partner

2469
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:42,680
with these organizations.

2470
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:45,420
And just a quick example.

2471
01:56:45,420 --> 01:56:50,040
I used to have a job where I was
constantly pounding the pavement

2472
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,720
looking for either business
sponsorships or dues

2473
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:56,120
or donations for events,
and there was one business

2474
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:58,460
that every time their
answer was the same,

2475
01:56:58,460 --> 01:57:01,440
they said, we don't do this
because we pay our employees

2476
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:03,680
a living wage, a living
wage, and if they

2477
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:05,620
want to support
community causes,

2478
01:57:05,620 --> 01:57:07,440
they're in a better
position to do that.

2479
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:09,680
And that's how I
feel about the burden

2480
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,600
we place on our taxpayers.

2481
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:14,870
We do our job right, they'll
be in a better position

2482
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:15,970
to support the better.

2483
01:57:15,970 --> 01:57:18,070
The Belfast soup kitchen
and Waldo cap and

2484
01:57:18,070 --> 01:57:20,310
the Winslow community cupboard.

2485
01:57:20,310 --> 01:57:21,870
I don't think we need
to make that decision

2486
01:57:21,870 --> 01:57:24,870
on their behalf, at
least in the position

2487
01:57:24,870 --> 01:57:26,430
that we're in right now.

2488
01:57:26,430 --> 01:57:28,710
I'll call the question.

2489
01:57:28,710 --> 01:57:29,990
Was there a motion on the table.

2490
01:57:29,990 --> 01:57:30,490
There was.

2491
01:57:30,490 --> 01:57:32,830
We were in discussion,
and the motion

2492
01:57:32,830 --> 01:57:36,390
is to approve $5,000
for the firefighters

2493
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:38,050
and 0 for everyone else.

2494
01:57:38,050 --> 01:57:43,550


2495
01:57:43,550 --> 01:57:44,510
Thank you.

2496
01:57:44,510 --> 01:57:48,170
Hold on just a second
here before I proceed.

2497
01:57:48,170 --> 01:57:54,150


2498
01:57:54,150 --> 01:57:55,470
All right, so we come.

2499
01:57:55,470 --> 01:57:56,570
You want me to
call the question.

2500
01:57:56,570 --> 01:57:57,950
I just want to put
on the table that

2501
01:57:57,950 --> 01:58:03,490
I think in 24 appropriations
was approved for $5,000.

2502
01:58:03,490 --> 01:58:04,550
Is that right.

2503
01:58:04,550 --> 01:58:05,450
Sounds right.

2504
01:58:05,450 --> 01:58:07,510
If you're saying it there,
I'm reading this right.

2505
01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:11,750
It was probably for Waldo cap.

2506
01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:12,290
That's right.

2507
01:58:12,290 --> 01:58:14,830
Because I had to talk to.

2508
01:58:14,830 --> 01:58:16,670
Was that 5 for Waldo, Captain.

2509
01:58:16,670 --> 01:58:20,350
Yeah, yeah, because the
firefighter association,

2510
01:58:20,350 --> 01:58:21,170
they didn't apply that.

2511
01:58:21,170 --> 01:58:21,670
They didn't.

2512
01:58:21,670 --> 01:58:24,090
Yeah they were struggling.

2513
01:58:24,090 --> 01:58:27,030


2514
01:58:27,030 --> 01:58:28,730
So the question has been called.

2515
01:58:28,730 --> 01:58:32,790
All those in favor read
the question back or just

2516
01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:37,530
so we're clear and this is in
the confines of appropriations.

2517
01:58:37,530 --> 01:58:42,310
Correct At $5,000 be
approved for the firefighters

2518
01:58:42,310 --> 01:58:47,010
association and 0 for the
others in the appropriations.

2519
01:58:47,010 --> 01:58:47,970
Special appropriations.

2520
01:58:47,970 --> 01:58:48,750
Say it again.

2521
01:58:48,750 --> 01:58:51,690
You're talking
$2,000 to approve,

2522
01:58:51,690 --> 01:58:55,750
$5,000 to the firefighters
and 0 for the others

2523
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:57,970
in the special other requests.

2524
01:58:57,970 --> 01:58:59,830
OK yes.

2525
01:58:59,830 --> 01:59:00,810
Questions been called.

2526
01:59:00,810 --> 01:59:03,990
All those in favor.

2527
01:59:03,990 --> 01:59:06,030
Aye Those opposed.

2528
01:59:06,030 --> 01:59:08,070
Any abstentions.

2529
01:59:08,070 --> 01:59:09,130
One abstention.

2530
01:59:09,130 --> 01:59:12,500
Station or two in
favor 1 abstention.

2531
01:59:12,500 --> 01:59:13,520
Yes OK.

2532
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:15,300
Thank you.

2533
01:59:15,300 --> 01:59:18,260
So it's at $5,000.

2534
01:59:18,260 --> 01:59:21,540
Thank you for your arguments.

2535
01:59:21,540 --> 01:59:22,880
And it's a tough call.

2536
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:23,720
It is a tough call.

2537
01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:27,440
And I think to Tim's
point about integrity,

2538
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,780
I think that we need to
do some good communication

2539
01:59:30,780 --> 01:59:34,760
with the organizations
that requested,

2540
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:37,780
especially the organizations
that we indicated support of.

2541
01:59:37,780 --> 01:59:39,280
What do you mean, I don't know.

2542
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,140
Write a letter.

2543
01:59:41,140 --> 01:59:43,860
Phone call, I don't know.

2544
01:59:43,860 --> 01:59:50,760
So historically, in the past, if
somebody has requested a funds,

2545
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:53,040
but it has not been approved
by the commissioners,

2546
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:57,700
has it been put forth
to the Budget Committee.

2547
01:59:57,700 --> 02:00:00,940
So seeing that so really,
even though you made a motion

2548
02:00:00,940 --> 02:00:03,140
to approve $5,000,
that's what you're saying

2549
02:00:03,140 --> 02:00:04,440
you can bring forward.

2550
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:06,780
But that doesn't stop the
Budget Committee from adding

2551
02:00:06,780 --> 02:00:08,240
any of those categories.

2552
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:10,460
So those requests, those
individual requests

2553
02:00:10,460 --> 02:00:14,540
on those other organizations
Waldo cap mid-coast, the two

2554
02:00:14,540 --> 02:00:18,620
from Midcoast, the Belfast
soup kitchen, Winslow community

2555
02:00:18,620 --> 02:00:22,560
cupboard and that's it.

2556
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:23,200
That's it.

2557
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:25,720
The Budget Committee will be
presented that information.

2558
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:29,780
They have the opportunity
to add takeaway, add

2559
02:00:29,780 --> 02:00:31,500
or take away, add or take away.

2560
02:00:31,500 --> 02:00:32,560
All right.

2561
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:35,420
Now if you made a
motion earlier back

2562
02:00:35,420 --> 02:00:38,220
in June that said
that you weren't going

2563
02:00:38,220 --> 02:00:41,620
to ask for any special
appropriations,

2564
02:00:41,620 --> 02:00:43,480
you weren't accepting
requests, then.

2565
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:46,360
No, the Budget Committee would
not be getting that information.

2566
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:48,400
But they're still
seeing the information.

2567
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:49,400
They are still seeing.

2568
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:50,900
I think that's a decision.

2569
02:00:50,900 --> 02:00:54,260
But they can't add two
special appropriations.

2570
02:00:54,260 --> 02:00:57,100
If they want to
fund Waldo cap, they

2571
02:00:57,100 --> 02:01:01,380
can add to fund Waldo cap if
they want to fund at all you're

2572
02:01:01,380 --> 02:01:02,600
doing is they added things.

2573
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:04,060
Last year they said,
oh, we don't think you

2574
02:01:04,060 --> 02:01:05,910
have enough money budgeted for.

2575
02:01:05,910 --> 02:01:07,030
I can't remember what it was.

2576
02:01:07,030 --> 02:01:08,690
Audit or something,
but they added

2577
02:01:08,690 --> 02:01:12,570
special appropriations that
were approved to go to them.

2578
02:01:12,570 --> 02:01:15,930
These are no longer
approved to go to them.

2579
02:01:15,930 --> 02:01:20,050
You're making a recommendation
of what you're going to fund.

2580
02:01:20,050 --> 02:01:22,630
You're so me as a
department head.

2581
02:01:22,630 --> 02:01:25,970
I'm saying to the
commissioners, it takes $100,000

2582
02:01:25,970 --> 02:01:28,450
to operate my finance budget.

2583
02:01:28,450 --> 02:01:30,630
You're telling me that.

2584
02:01:30,630 --> 02:01:33,390
No, Carrie, I think you
can do it for $50,000.

2585
02:01:33,390 --> 02:01:36,890
I say, OK, the Budget Committee,
that we can look at it

2586
02:01:36,890 --> 02:01:39,550
and say, well, Carrie,
I think 50 is too low.

2587
02:01:39,550 --> 02:01:40,810
Hundreds too high.

2588
02:01:40,810 --> 02:01:42,590
I'll give you 80,000.

2589
02:01:42,590 --> 02:01:44,070
So we're just
recommending nothing.

2590
02:01:44,070 --> 02:01:47,170
You are making a recommendation
at the end of the day,

2591
02:01:47,170 --> 02:01:48,710
and they can change their minds.

2592
02:01:48,710 --> 02:01:50,470
They can add or subtract.

2593
02:01:50,470 --> 02:01:51,730
They can't.

2594
02:01:51,730 --> 02:01:52,410
All right.

2595
02:01:52,410 --> 02:01:53,730
Can I add to that.

2596
02:01:53,730 --> 02:01:57,610
That happened to me
exactly about 10 years ago.

2597
02:01:57,610 --> 02:01:59,710
The commissioners cut
my overtime budget.

2598
02:01:59,710 --> 02:02:03,290
I took out $75,000.

2599
02:02:03,290 --> 02:02:06,930
No Budget Committee was
started because the chairman

2600
02:02:06,930 --> 02:02:10,450
of the Budget Committee said
to me, can you live with that.

2601
02:02:10,450 --> 02:02:11,230
Without that.

2602
02:02:11,230 --> 02:02:12,490
And I said, no, I can't.

2603
02:02:12,490 --> 02:02:13,730
But I guess the
commissioners have

2604
02:02:13,730 --> 02:02:17,530
to figure out how to fund it
because I can't lock the doors.

2605
02:02:17,530 --> 02:02:19,230
So Budget Committee funded it.

2606
02:02:19,230 --> 02:02:25,210
So they do it well, like.

2607
02:02:25,210 --> 02:02:27,210
And so same thing
happened to salt water

2608
02:02:27,210 --> 02:02:28,470
I think three years ago.

2609
02:02:28,470 --> 02:02:30,890
Soil and water
lost their funding.

2610
02:02:30,890 --> 02:02:33,230
No, they got well
they got it back.

2611
02:02:33,230 --> 02:02:35,370
Was it cut in half or something.

2612
02:02:35,370 --> 02:02:37,950
There was three or
four motions that went.

2613
02:02:37,950 --> 02:02:40,310
And then it was
finally, I think,

2614
02:02:40,310 --> 02:02:42,610
settled to give them their
full request, the full

2615
02:02:42,610 --> 02:02:45,390
request or maybe 25,000.

2616
02:02:45,390 --> 02:02:46,430
Something to that effect.

2617
02:02:46,430 --> 02:02:49,990
All right.

2618
02:02:49,990 --> 02:02:53,450
Brief, we got through
two of your questions.

2619
02:02:53,450 --> 02:02:56,050
Third one, is there a third one.

2620
02:02:56,050 --> 02:02:58,050
Let me see.

2621
02:02:58,050 --> 02:03:01,350
Do we have a County garden
breakdown of that line item.

2622
02:03:01,350 --> 02:03:05,600
Do we have an idea of
what that gets spent on.

2623
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:07,420
That is actually in
the Sheriff's budget.

2624
02:03:07,420 --> 02:03:09,460
But it's just one line item.

2625
02:03:09,460 --> 02:03:11,700
It's one line and
it's a large one.

2626
02:03:11,700 --> 02:03:13,960
So I'm curious how
that's being spent.

2627
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:17,700
I know that the garden
is important in general,

2628
02:03:17,700 --> 02:03:21,080
and also important because
it's part of our eligibility

2629
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:24,040
to receive funding for the work
we do with the reentry center.

2630
02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:27,240
But I'm curious how
much it has to cost us.

2631
02:03:27,240 --> 02:03:30,460
I know that there's been some
changes that's happened there,

2632
02:03:30,460 --> 02:03:32,680
so I don't know what
those expenses look like.

2633
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:36,120
I don't remember.

2634
02:03:36,120 --> 02:03:42,560
Seeing anything to break that
breaks that garden project down.

2635
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:45,160
And I think some
has historically

2636
02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:47,080
come out of community
corrections funds

2637
02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:49,160
is that that's a separate.

2638
02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:54,980
Yeah so it's not just one place.

2639
02:03:54,980 --> 02:03:57,660
So well the garden is the CCA.

2640
02:03:57,660 --> 02:04:00,440


2641
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:06,480
Or I can ask Matt Magnusson
if he has a breakdown of that.

2642
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:08,720
Yeah so you want to see
an additional breakdown

2643
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:11,120
of that aggregate number
on that line item.

2644
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:12,980
Yes OK.

2645
02:04:12,980 --> 02:04:15,340
That's it for that's
it for my questions.

2646
02:04:15,340 --> 02:04:16,620
That was it for your questions.

2647
02:04:16,620 --> 02:04:19,800
Yeah it was only like
an hour of discussion.

2648
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:20,940
Any other.

2649
02:04:20,940 --> 02:04:22,220
You don't want my questions.

2650
02:04:22,220 --> 02:04:23,440
All right.

2651
02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:29,080
Kevin I'm learning not
to poke the bear twice.

2652
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:30,460
Kevin yes, ma'am.

2653
02:04:30,460 --> 02:04:33,500
We need to go into an executive
session for personnel matters.

2654
02:04:33,500 --> 02:04:34,480
All right.

2655
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:37,000
Any other open questions
for the Budget Committee.

2656
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:38,180
Treasurer do you have anything.

2657
02:04:38,180 --> 02:04:39,840
Ellen?

2658
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:40,600
no.

2659
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:43,140
So it's executive session.

2660
02:04:43,140 --> 02:04:48,320
Subchapter 405 the
first and second.

2661
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:50,020
Motion carries.

2662
02:04:50,020 --> 02:04:51,200
Thank you.

2663
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:52,620
And I'm sure we're off record.

2664
02:04:52,620 --> 02:04:55,100
It's just that this is going
to be the last item, I think.

2665
02:04:55,100 --> 02:04:56,080
I think so.

2666
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:56,620
All right.

2667
02:04:56,620 --> 02:05:08,710


2668
02:05:08,710 --> 02:05:44,290
Oops are we back on record.

2669
02:05:44,290 --> 02:05:49,190


2670
02:05:49,190 --> 02:05:50,230
Are we back on.

2671
02:05:50,230 --> 02:05:51,390
Or do you think.

2672
02:05:51,390 --> 02:05:52,550
Yes no.

2673
02:05:52,550 --> 02:05:54,050
Yes You never know.

2674
02:05:54,050 --> 02:05:55,250
Yes, I never know.

2675
02:05:55,250 --> 02:05:55,850
No talkie.

2676
02:05:55,850 --> 02:05:58,550


2677
02:05:58,550 --> 02:06:01,390
For the green thing.

2678
02:06:01,390 --> 02:06:02,730
We gotta figure this out.

2679
02:06:02,730 --> 02:06:03,610
We need a signal.

2680
02:06:03,610 --> 02:06:05,050
Good I just hate yelling.

2681
02:06:05,050 --> 02:06:06,690
So we're all set.

2682
02:06:06,690 --> 02:06:09,370
All right, so this is
Waldo County court session.

2683
02:06:09,370 --> 02:06:11,570
We're back after
executive session.

2684
02:06:11,570 --> 02:06:13,830
This is September three.

2685
02:06:13,830 --> 02:06:17,790
We need to take some action
based on our executive session.

2686
02:06:17,790 --> 02:06:21,070
I move we incorporate the
market rate adjustments

2687
02:06:21,070 --> 02:06:26,350
for the following
positions in the 2027

2688
02:06:26,350 --> 02:06:28,590
commissioner's budget proposal.

2689
02:06:28,590 --> 02:06:29,910
The positions are.

2690
02:06:29,910 --> 02:06:36,970
Communications County clerk
investigator at DA office.

2691
02:06:36,970 --> 02:06:43,790
Manager at da deeds, EMA
director, facilities director.

2692
02:06:43,790 --> 02:06:49,790
Finance director, Judge of
probate, probate and Sheriff.

2693
02:06:49,790 --> 02:06:50,770
Do I have a second.

2694
02:06:50,770 --> 02:06:52,730
Second We have a first
and I have a second.

2695
02:06:52,730 --> 02:06:56,300
Is there any more discussion.

2696
02:06:56,300 --> 02:06:56,833
Hearing none.

2697
02:06:56,833 --> 02:06:57,600
I'll call the question.

2698
02:06:57,600 --> 02:06:59,340
All those in favor.

2699
02:06:59,340 --> 02:07:00,920
Motion carries unanimously.

2700
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:02,440
Any other business
before the court.

2701
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:05,340


2702
02:07:05,340 --> 02:07:08,053
We're adjourned without form.

2703
02:07:08,053 --> 02:07:08,720
Thank you very much.

2704
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:09,440
Have a great day.

2705
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:12,020


2706
02:07:12,020 --> 02:07:13,280
I'm not going to take this home.

2707
02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:14,920
I need to focus on
other stuff right now.

2708
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:16,080
But thank you for the offer.

2709
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:20,100
I'll leave it underneath here.

2710
02:07:20,100 --> 02:07:20,840
All righty.

2711
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:29,420


2712
02:07:29,420 --> 02:07:34,420
I think I have a new gray
hair since I got here today.

2713
02:07:34,420 --> 02:07:36,760
Every meeting I say to my son.

2714
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:39,100
I am so glad that
you got a party.

2715
02:07:39,100 --> 02:07:40,800
Oh, thanks.

2716
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:42,340
I think we have a good team.

2717
02:07:42,340 --> 02:07:49,580
Well, you'll be four
years in come November.

2718
02:07:49,580 --> 02:07:51,780
I don't know if
that's a good thing.

2719
02:07:51,780 --> 02:07:53,410
In July.