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In favor, please signify by saying I.
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» Call council meeting of July 9th.
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» Is there a second?
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If you're not in the meeting, uh, don't
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a motion to approve?
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you were there.

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» Okay.
>> All those in favor who are at meeting

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signify by saying I
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» call council meeting July 15, 2026.

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» Motion accept. Is there a second?
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corrections? All those in favor signify
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» I.
Call council meeting July 21st 2020.

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Is there a motion we accept the minutes?
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» Second.
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All those in favor signify by saying I.
>> I call council meeting July 23rd, 2026.

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Is there a motion we accept the minutes?
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discussion, amendments, corrections?
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signify by saying I.
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meetings first. The others call council
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» Make a motion.
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Amendments, corrections?
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Call council meeting
August 4th.

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» Second.
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» Any discussion? Corrections.
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» Opposed.
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» Second.
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» Okay. All those in favor sign by saying
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» Okay, let's go back. We've got uh two
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moving forward uh the committee when
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So, do we want to hold that for the next
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already July? Okay. There's a motion. Do
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member? So, motion from the committee
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» and moving forward at the committee
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committees meeting August 4th, 2026.

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Okay, we're all on a committee of some
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Is there a second?
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thank you. That was a lot of minutes.
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All right. So, next we're moving to the
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there anyone from the public that would
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going once
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We'll close the close the comment
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been very much looking forward to. Dr.
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is going to present to us on the
university student agricultural project.

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» Mr.

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clarify that.
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» Sure.
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be before you just to tell you a little
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practitioner from the Charleston area.
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myself teaching at the school of
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December. These are students that are
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the spring and basically closing out
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trying to do is put together a project
students that makes it as real as

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possible um in terms of they have a real
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terms of designing a building.
had kind of an affinity personally for

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Wah Hol
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time over here discovered that I guess
your old gym building is kind of a bit

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of a change right now in terms of
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for something else and this would be a
perfect building as a kind of a test for

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my students to use and I talked to
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and thought I just wanted a little
permission before I just show up with 10

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students wandering around trespassing on
your property. So, I'm here to ask I

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guess your your blessings or whatever to
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want to be able to measure the building.
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designing a hypothetical project for a
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addition to the building. We have no we
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than access to the building. maybe
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whatever to oversee this. And we would
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to participate in the process along the
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architecture is made. Some people might
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anyways, it's a great opportunity for
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interaction that's great. I can
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but it's really much more interesting if
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with. So, that's what I'm here to talk
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that you might have.
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» Absolutely. I'll second that. And I I
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clarify something too
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talked about they would actually produce
a deliverable that we could use a plan.

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» Well, yeah, absolutely.
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going to do it in teams or individuals,
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or as many as 10 different schemes on
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input, we might say, you know, we want
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kind of spaces, that kind of stuff. I'm
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things in to get full and real. Um, but
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several different solutions to the same
problem. If that makes sense. You'll see

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10 different math solutions to one math
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» We have access to that and we have
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some point
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I may or may not be able to do that
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certainly publish the dates that we have
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or we could even do some reviews on
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tied to an academic.
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» Okay. I grew up in Columbia, went to
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used to drive to White Waterfall. So
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what 5 years old
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I'd like to retire here one day and she
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I told Charleston

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» does anyone have any objections is it
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I'm not a doctor. No, I'm Mr. Architect
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where the city gym is. And as a side
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keeping it as a gym
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» Any kind of parameters that y'all can
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kind of coordinate the schedule and
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great. If not, that's great. I know
administrator here shortly.

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appreciate it.
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All right. So we have proclamations.
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First one will be 2026-10
proclamation recognizing September as

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emergency preparedness month.
Whereas our nation south and city

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are faced with the potential for
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and for that can stress safety community
and family resources and whereas the

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Federal Emergency Management Agency or
FEMA emphasizes to all states,

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communities and citizens that it is
better to be prepared for such events.

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And whereas FEMA provides the guidance
of the plan stay informed and get

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involved to all members of the community
both adults and children. And whereas

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the city of Wala Police, fire, and
utility departments would like to

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encourage all its citizens to avail
themselves to the information at fema's

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ready.gov website and help do their part
to improve the strength and resilience

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of our great city. Therefore, I Tim
Hall, mayor of the city of Wajala, South

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Carolina, hereby proclaim September
National Preparedness Month in the city

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of Wala. I encourage all citizens young
and old to appreciate our blessings and

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to endeavor to strengthen our community.
And this is really timely basation

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involves Hispanic Heritage Month and we
are having the Hispanic Heritage

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Festival. I'll remind everybody
September 19th. Uh it'll be at Owens

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proclaiming September 15th through
October 15th Hispanic Heritage Month

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holiday. Whereas each year, communities
across our nation observe National

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Hispanic Heritage Month by celebrating
the stories, cultures, and contributions

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generations of Hispanic Americans whose
ancestors came from Mexico, Spain, the

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Caribbean, Central, and South America,
representing diverse nations and

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cultures that each contribute a unique
and dynamic perspective to the history

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and progress of our state. It was the
theme for this year's National Hispanic

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Month. Do
recognized the importance of shared

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declares that together we are more. And
whereas National Hispanic Heritage Month

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provides a dedicated time to honor the
valuable contributions of Hispanics and

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Latinos in the comment state as citizens
who share their vibrant culture and

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enrich our communities through their
unwavering dedication to faith, hard

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work, and family. Whereas the city of
Warhal remains committed to enhancing

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collaboration across sectors, cultures,
and ideas, advocating for resources that

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promote economic and community
development and engaging with local,

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county, and statewide networks,
including the South Carolina Commission

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for Minority Affairs, Hispanic Affairs
Division. And whereas we proudly

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recognize, support, and celebrate the
fifth annual cultural heritage

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celebration in the city of Bahal
recognizing the gifts, values, and

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personal sacrifices of our Hispanic
brothers and sisters are woven

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inextricably into the fabric of our
shared community heritage, strengthen

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our society, and are vital to achieving
our hopes and dreams for South Carolina.

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Therefore, I Tim Hall, mayor of the city
of Wala, South Carolina, do hereby

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proclaim 15 through October 15th as
Hispanic Heritage Month in the city of

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Wala. I encourage all citizens to
celebrate and recognize the invaluable

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contributions of Hispanic and Latino
communities which have enriched and

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shaped the vibrant
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We're going to go through a resolution.
I'm going to say uh this is a

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resolution. Is Chief Sanford here?
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I know a lot of kids going to grow up
and be for exactly the reasons that you

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all exemplify
dedication community

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sacrifice that you make and we
appreciate that.

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As I read this resolution
service that we've done for citizens,

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our citizens,
I have gotten a letter in today

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for another act which I will scan in to
everyone.

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You guys do a tremendous job and we
really appreciate

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read.
Uh do we have a copy of that sign?

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right now. Anyway, I want to I want to
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Okay. Um it's a resolution honoring
practice Terry Sandford for exemplary

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service and dedication to the
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On the 3rd of July 2026 preparing for
Wales Independence Fest, Chief Terry

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Sanford received a call from employees
at a local truck supply company who were

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in distress. And whereas David own
coworker who had been exposed to exhaust

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fumes and Mr. Owens was unable to move
his co-orker outside and call Chief

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Sanford and whereas Chief Sanford's
concern, training and experience let him

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recognize that life saving assistance
might be urgently need. And whereas

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Chief Sanford own's workplace found him
incoherent roused him and immediately

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called 911 dispatch and whereas Chief
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two were rushed to the hospital where
both were found to have some

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life-threatening carbon monoxide
exposure and low oxygen levels whereas

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Chief Samber notified Mr. Owens family
and later met him at the hospital to

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check on his condition and whereas Mr.
orange recovered and shared his thanks

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for city wala city council praising our
chief Sanford for going above and beyond

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his calling of duty and whereas the city
of wala recognizes such dedication

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professionalism strengthen the safety
trust and wellbeing of the community now

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therefore be resolved by the mayor and
council of the city of wala that chief

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Jerry Stanford is hereby commended and
honored for his exempl service quick

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response and steadfast commitment to
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that is I'm sure that is only one of
many that all of you have had. There are

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a lot of people that their lives to the
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recolous

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life.
This is we also recognize quality of our

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Is there a motion to accept this?
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second. Is that motion? Any discussion?

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some people in too.

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And then if everybody will stand, I'll
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name.
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Is this
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We get into

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First reading of the ordinance
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an ordinance to amend the is ordinance
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This is the first one since 199.
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» I talk about it a little bit.
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» the fire chief but
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the changes that we made. Um again just
the very basis of that um try to make

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you more user friendly more flexible for
you and how you know you can improve

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things that come in to be developed. Um
ensuring that all the changes that have

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made over the years were incorporated.
There were different versions floating

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around. So making sure that you know
your base document is right, what you

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have online is right, what you have on
your website is right and so and then

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trying to keep to your existing format
as possible to make it easier for your

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clerk to make those changes and post
them online and all those types of

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things. So um I kind of went through all
the changes at the committee meetings.

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We want to go through those kind of
blowby-blow again, but uh if you have

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questions or concerns or comments, um
certainly happy to hear those.

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» Anyone have any questions?

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» I've got two questions. One, our
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» Yes, they we were with them for a year.
Um back in July, uh we did the public

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hearing. The only that came out of that
public hearing was adding the short-term

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rental information to the ordinance
there. Everybody was aware of that. That

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the only change that happened after that
meeting was just me physically

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incorporating that into there and I
think one or two.

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» Yes, sir.
>> Second question that I have is on the

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political would you go over the
limitations on

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» we're getting into what people call.

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So what it says now with the new
language, it says under exempt signs. So

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that starts on page 66 and carries over
to the top of page 67.

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It says political signs are exempt.
They're allowed on private property. Um,

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they are not allowed in the public right
ofway or on city owned property. So,

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can't be in a city park, be on a
telephone pole, can't be in the road

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right away or in a, you know, median in
the center of the road because that

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would all be public right away. Um,
basically, if I'm, you know, I want to

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publicize a candidate, I can have a sign
or multiple signs in my guard, um, you

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know, showing my support for the
candidate, but it can't be in the public

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right away. can't be on telephone polls.
That was really ever legal. You know,

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polls and such was never really legal.
Anyway, this clarifies the fact that

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they're not allowed in the public
rideway. Um there sort of a a middle

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ground between regulations. Uh we've had
other ones that we've seen where, you

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know, communities charge deposits um for
them before you can put them out with

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the goal really being to make sure
they're all cleaned up at the end of the

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election. That six months from now
there's still not a bunch of political

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signs out in the community, out on the
roadways, in people's yards. So,

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» okay. So, in the city of Wala, you
cannot put a political sign out anywhere

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according to this. It's written. So,
except on

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» correct. That's what this says.
>> Okay. Usually there's a lead. One thing

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I want to ask about usually before

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» um the day of the election
probably nobody's going to say anything

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about it. There are some election rules
I think that govern that

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» is under this ordinance. It is
prohibited by this ordinance to do even

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the day of the election,
>> right? I mean unless there's a state

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rule, state election law that would
supersede this.

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I can check into that before we come
back.

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» I do have a question along those lines.

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Would that also include the early voting
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» Yes. So, any rule that they're going to
have is going to cover all those periods

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of time. So I'll I'll make sure I see
what that language is exactly and bring

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that back to you before
>> second reading

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that's

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first reading. Is there a motion to
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discussion further?
All in favor of accepting first.

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» Thank you for your hard work with our
planning commission and making sure that

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I know this had to be a task since
>> it's a lot of work going through

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everything taking it line by line and
and discussing pretty much every piece

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of paper in the document. So
>> and we have our comprehensive plan. Let

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me ask you specific. Yes.
>> Has it's supposed to be updated every

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five years and I think it's due for an
update now.

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» Right. I know they were we were not
involved in that project. I know they

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would hear that they had started that
project. Um I don't know exactly where

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they are with it. I know she had
presented some of that material to the

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planning commission while I was at the
meetings but um I think that still had

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more work to be done. So
>> right was certainly

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we have a new planner on board.
Okay. Thank you very much.

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» Yes, sir.

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» Okay. Discussion and action items. We'll
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So, I'm turn

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» on this

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first.
>> Well, I'll just get us started. So, we

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were originally planning on discussing
the opening event and we're hoping to

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share a date. I think that date is going
to be postponed because last Friday

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evening during a storm event, there was
some water way into the community

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center. Um I'll let Mr. Carter kind of
go through what where we're at today

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with that.
>> Okay. There was actually two contact

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people today that John was at the first
which was serve. John, can you summarize

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what the represented

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still has said?
>> They said that

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equipment
never mentioned anything. They wanted to

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know
anything.

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We did leave
some dehumidify

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questions about this.
>> There's some there's some drywall that

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needs to be replaced out and some carpet
that needs to be replaced. Is that

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right?
>> Uh well, when we met with Mr.

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It was a sight down there

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and he got only I think one meeting that
was out of range in terms of detecting

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moisture.
>> Okay.

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» And so uh his in his opinion he did not
think what would come up. He went down

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looked for bubbles in it. He put light
on it and things of that nature. But he

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did say this. You need to flesh this
out. He as he said Hogan is not this. He

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talked about putting guards. You're
going to interstate those guards on

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put them on

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the drainage system on the far side of
the street and rear of the building. And

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do some additional site work including
cutting a ditch that would allow it to

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drain. And what else? John didn't say
>> spillway on the right side. They call it

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something else, but spillway for the
water. If it gets up to a certain point

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again and the drains get stopped up,
it'll

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instead

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cost
down there. It was a torrential rain.

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It washed down some of
that area where it washed down from his

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area. They're talking about doing some
kind of mitigation so we don't have that

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kind of problem.
Would it hurt like

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something

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» that has nothing to do with the bill's
been signed over to us? It's our

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responsibility.

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» Yeah. Unless

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» the only the only wet or damp place we
found was in that room and it's probably

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less than 12 inches up from the floor
and probably less.

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Yeah, I think that they could have done
a better job.

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They're aware of that and they're trying
to

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those specific things we mentioned too
including trying to drain that water

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back
down

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by 30 bas

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that looks
about

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One of our employees had a video I saw
coming off the parking lot.

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It looked like we had our own Niagara
Falls.

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» That was that was actually coming from
that drain. It was actually running

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around and coming down in front of the
building. So that drain's working

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efficiently. You shouldn't have that
problem. So when Hogan gets done with

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what they're doing, probably volunteer
and myself will have to make sure that

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that alleyway up through there where the
water's running is clear. It has to be

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maintained that way.
I think there was even a 55gallon drum

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floating in there. It came from
somewhere.

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So
>> they are still planning on moving

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forward with the hydro stud. I still
think

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» that's what they did today.

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» Those things I think he promised.
I'm not sure. He said we'll do that.

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» Okay.

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Saturday.

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Anything else on
>> As far as the res

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with you and the rec to me personally,
all it needs is cleaning. They should be

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good to go. But they're also having a
lot of work with the

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cameras and internet systems right now.
So,

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» well, and that'll be dependent if
they're bringing equipment in.

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to do and all that. We don't want to
have an event while that too. So, we'll

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we'll just make it a goal of September.
Hopefully, that will be completed by

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then some.
>> Um, yeah. So, there there's still

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they've done a soft and allowed some
groups to practice in there

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until that work is complete.

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» Anything else?
make sure that we don't do it on

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September 19th.

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» Absolutely. Absolutely. We have to be
cognizant of those dates.

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» Super Saturday as well.
There may be other sports.

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Make sure that it is on the calendar.

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Okay.
Request for proposal for deep cleaning.

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Were you taking on that?

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» Chris.

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» Yes. I'm sorry. I had the cemetery in
front of that. So, yes, certainly.

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We're trying to
trying to get somebody on board to start

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cleaning the depot after every
event. Um, deep cleanings a year and

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then have somebody come in and spot
clean at each event. Um,

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I would strongly encourage that we not
try to reach out or

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a request out to major cleaning
companies because I think it's going to

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cost us three times as much. I would
rather would rather that we entertain

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proposals from small business owners,
maybe one to two people

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on time.
>> And just a little background, we had

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over the last year we working
in house staff cleaning the depot. Uh

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but in terms of manpower, we just
stretched pretty thin and it wasn't

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being done.
So now to go back what we had before

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last year, which is contracting out to
take care of the people, clean the

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RFP for maintenance.
This is to try to get a little bit of

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load off of John and his staff.
A good full two days to try to do that.

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The city cemetery. Uh there's more
weeding and there is

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so um we like to try to find someone
again reaching to a small business

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rather than a large service
to get them to quote on this. Um, again,

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they're more it would save us a lot of
money if we can find someone to do that.

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» Both of those request for proposals.
When do we expect to have them out?

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» Yesterday,
it was not it was in my

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phone.
>> John is going to be the contact for both

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of them because he is in charge of
facilities as well as the cemetery. So,

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he'll be their PC.

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I would love to have somebody.

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» We have not.

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» We need to bring it.

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» Yes, sir.
>> Does that include the church?

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I thought we talked about that.
It does. I don't think that facility is

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probably used, but what?
>> Twice a year.

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» Twice a year. So, I think we can include
that in the um the quote for the depot.

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» So, you need a motion from us to
approve

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formulation of a request for
St. John Place.

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I do. One thing I see that's not on here
that probably just skipped my mind

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too is that they do need to have a
business license.

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So we'll need to add that to the should

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John

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discussion. All in favor say
>> I.

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» Okay. Next we're going to have is
cemetery maintenance. Again we have

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funds in the budget. Is that correct?

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Motion we accept the issuance of RFP
formulation of RFP for

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» second

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discussion.
All those in favor signify by saying

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» I

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Okay, now we're going to And I'll tell
you this is the final

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besides the administr

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you have not slept I think all weekend.
Thank you for your work on this. It was

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just a very quick topline
overview of what happened. We had a very

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significant event where the city of Wala
just kind of ran out of water. Let folks

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know what would happen.
>> Yeah. Friday evening after that storm

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come through the water plants called and
said they was they had dropped on their

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tank. So we went out and looked for
about three hours and not find nothing.

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And it was after it had rain. So all the
ditches were flooded and everything

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else. We like I said about 3 hours
Friday. There was still tanks on

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Saturday morning. I come back around
probably about 4:30 and

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they had been empty. So we I started
calling people in and we started looking

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and we checked every cross and
everything went through the woods and we

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could not find nothing. Hey, look.
From 4:30 to

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whatever time, 11, 12, I don't remember
exactly when it was.

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I just have go down through Duck Pond.
And um when I went to turn around, I had

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rolled my window down. I heard water and
when I got a truck, I could not see the

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water, but I could hear it. The water
was running under a bunch of kudzu and

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it was it was running like a river, so
you would have never been able to see

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it.
We uh we got it shut down.

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We got it back going

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around

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5:00
>> I'm sure

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» Sunday morning.
>> This was this was a relatively new

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probably six years ago.
I don't hold to it, but I don't when I

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don't really know the cause. I'm going
to say it. Lightning might have been a

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cause, but I'm not 100% sure.
>> But you didn't see anything laying.

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» No, sir. But like when it's when it
rains like that, that pipe moves

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constantly in the ground. So when it
rains, it loosens the ground and stuff.

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And a rock might get against it. or if
it's dry has been in a drought, it'll

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you know you're trying to get hard. Now
I said the same thing that line moves

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constantly and something get against it
and blow it out. It's the line never and

439
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:43,359
temperature changes. It gets hot to
cold, cold to hot ground changes. It's

440
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:48,240
going pop. It's going
>> split. And the pipe we're going down

441
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:50,640
with now with pipe as we lay is
something called duct tile.

442
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:53,520
» Ductile iron
>> which is iron which is a lot stronger

443
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:58,319
than what we had.
>> Yes. Duct iron splits different than

444
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:03,920
plastic. Plastic usually most of the
time it split 20 foot joint if it does

445
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:07,520
that belt iron actually split a circle
all the way around it.

446
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:12,680
» But it's stronger.
>> Yes. Yes. I mean, I've got

447
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:20,760
107 year old iron pot from the old the
old mountain line still in the ground

448
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:29,280
and it's still going strong.
>> If I could, I'd like to

449
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:35,280
absolutely
thank you, Lane. I uh really appreciate

450
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:40,160
the crew. We appreciate all the other
cities and the police department,

451
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:44,960
everybody working together. Uh that was
a big deal for us and the citizens of

452
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:50,800
Holland and we we really appreciate
y'all coming together. Um but you know,

453
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:55,440
I really want to get to talk about
a lot of stuff goes on Facebook about

454
00:42:53,119 --> 00:43:01,440
all these breaks and stuff. People don't
understand what what's going on. So, uh

455
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,599
I think the mayor got with some of the
girls today and they They came up with a

456
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:12,880
lead. I'm going we're going to talk
about that. So, this is

457
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,760
» we've had 20 total in the last this uh
this year

458
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:19,359
» before you get this is a Patrick
Jackson. He's actually my contract

459
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:23,119
distribution oper.
>> I've actually asked him to be here today

460
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:27,680
because he can answer I mean I can
answer your ball work but he can

461
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:31,520
probably do better than I can. Okay.
>> Okay.

462
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:36,560
» I just want to go over this first
related installation of new ones. We had

463
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:40,960
seven. So, and a lot of people don't
understand, you know, they're just, you

464
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:46,400
know, they may get mud or something or
air in their lines and they all get

465
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:52,480
people get on Facebook and and just
start talking and uh just messes

466
00:43:48,960 --> 00:44:00,160
everything. U on February 3rd, Stillwell
tie in Wall Street. We had a B advisory

467
00:43:56,319 --> 00:44:06,800
then. March 26, Stillwell tie in South
Broad Street. April 9th, Stillwell tie

468
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:11,200
in Westminster Highway and H Highway.
April 14th, Stillwell tie in West

469
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:16,640
halfway.
>> These are tieins that are new lines. May

470
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:22,560
I ask y'all why do we have to when you
put the new line to explain the full

471
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,920
water advisor then? When you put a when
they're doing a tap on a new line, we

472
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:32,079
usually have to cut the line off because
they're most like some people do a hot

473
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:36,480
tap with a valve on line. They're doing
not cutting in TE's and doing a valve.

474
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:41,119
So, we got to take the kill the water so
they can fill all that in. So, when you

475
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:44,319
and when DHCK tells us when we lose
significant pressure, we have to do more

476
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,040
wateries.
>> Okay.

477
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:52,720
» That doesn't necessarily mean the
water's going to harm you, right? That

478
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:57,599
just means you possibility.
>> Yeah,

479
00:44:54,319 --> 00:45:03,200
the reg are pretty pretty clear. Um, if
you have a issue of low pressure or low

480
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:08,319
water affects a significant portion of
your distribution system, you're

481
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:14,480
required to one or two notices. An
advisory is precautionary.

482
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:18,480
Um, a notice is mandatory. If, for
example, god forbid, we have

483
00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:24,960
contamination issue, that would be a
notice that might say do not use

484
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:30,480
So I I think all of these have been and
I've only been involved in a few weeks

485
00:45:27,359 --> 00:45:36,800
uh precautionary the regs are clear if
you drop below 20 PSI or think there's a

486
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:41,920
threat of contamination you need to do
public notification. Um so in the last

487
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:49,760
few weeks I probably taught this more
than I taught my wife

488
00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:54,079
but we're mandated to do that. Um and
smaller stuff. We can do some checks and

489
00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:59,839
balances. We do flow stuff, check
chlorine, have a reasonable

490
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,920
assurance that everything's safe. But we
would, at least while I'm involved,

491
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,680
always like air on the side of caution.
Even if it's unpleasant in the public

492
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,800
eye, it's there to protect the public
and we're obligated to do that.

493
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:17,000
I'm going to go by related to sele

494
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:26,720
total of seven
contractor calls. Uh this is April 1st,

495
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:32,240
June 9th, June 23rd, June, July 10th,
and July 21st. The contractor calls.

496
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:41,119
Explain what happens with that, Zane,
when we have what? Well,

497
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:45,280
if it's fiber company, they they send
crews like they'll have crews in here

498
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:52,319
with nothing but sharp shooters and
picks and dig holes and they will they

499
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:56,160
will come and like dig a hole here, go
30 foot, dig another hole, do the same

500
00:46:54,319 --> 00:47:04,720
thing. They're using pneumatic boring
systems um to um bore with. So, our dad

501
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:08,800
are directional machines. So, A lot of
them lines get heat or plows. They come

502
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:13,200
in with plows and set them in the ground
and just go and it'll rip out whatever.

503
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:19,119
I've had I know this has been a company
a few years ago, but I've actually had a

504
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:22,880
company was plowing up Highway 11 from
Nick Quick and they plowed through my 10

505
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:27,680
in the iron line. It looked like a can
over went across it. So

506
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:31,839
» was there any repercussions
toward that?

507
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:37,200
» You can try to locate right you can try
them but pay is a whole different story.

508
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:44,880
Okay,
>> let me ask one thing on that too

509
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:49,440
that now pipes are put out with locator
wire ductile.

510
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:54,319
» Well, it still has wire on it too. We
still fire wire up.

511
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:58,960
» But in the past
>> the older pipes there was no locator.

512
00:47:56,240 --> 00:48:04,560
There was no locator anything
>> many many many years contractors hit it

513
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,839
and we say
we don't have any basis on which to

514
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:10,480
build
hitting those lines because we didn't

515
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:15,040
have them.
>> Yes sir. You got so many feet. If you're

516
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:19,760
all
>> think 30, I think.

517
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:24,400
» I think 30 in. If you're all 30 in on
your mark, it's not their fault.

518
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:28,240
» Yeah, it just changed in May 22nd. I
think

519
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:33,280
the 811 law
>> was modified this past.

520
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:37,760
» Nothing we can do about it. We have
>> no or if you're off on a mark,

521
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:44,800
» which does happen,
but if you're on your mark and you have

522
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:54,640
Some questions
are power. We have five going to them on

523
00:48:48,640 --> 00:49:00,480
April 21st at water natural cause
like you know weather

524
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:05,200
like rock blew up under the ground
causing damage and

525
00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:14,240
» our lightning
>> June 29th the rock station power from

526
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:16,960
storms July 20 31st water line break
natural causes

527
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:27,839
Westminster has highway
April 16th water that's again you know

528
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:32,359
you got rocks and stuff we don't have no
control over this no control

529
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:38,040
August 16
bro

530
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:50,480
17 water line break tree blew over
during stom hit above ground water pipes

531
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:57,760
near playground road. Uh let me explain
what goes on this gets a call or our

532
00:49:54,559 --> 00:50:02,800
water department gets a call.
We don't know what causes that you kick

533
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:06,800
in here if you need to. We don't know
what causes it. They're out there trying

534
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:14,480
to find out what causes the problem,
where it's at, and what they need to do

535
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:18,800
and how much equipment they need. Uh,
so a lot of people want to know, you

536
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:23,599
know, what are we going to do? What's
happening? You know, are we going to

537
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:27,760
have water? We won't be able to tell
that until after

538
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:32,319
they get done with everything. So when
he gets done fixing everything, that's

539
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:37,720
when they, well, we need to do water
advisory. That's when we'll know where

540
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:46,960
why it happened and where it was. He was
talking to him this weekend. He was just

541
00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:51,599
it was I felt sorry for him. He had like
two two or three phone calls coming in

542
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:56,240
at one time and
uh he hadn't slept in three days. You

543
00:50:54,319 --> 00:51:03,040
know, that's a dedicated, you know, his
department's dedicated and uh

544
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:06,000
you can't get him to go home. So
I almost just want to make you go home

545
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,559
so they sleep. So
>> we have to corral

546
00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:16,880
» but goes back again. We want people to
be we want people to have clean water

547
00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:21,040
and they do too. But there's a way we've
got what's called a crossover. So if

548
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:25,520
somebody's dirty water in their house,
they need to contact the city. The city

549
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:30,559
can go over there. I don't want to have
to pay to clean my house out. Nor should

550
00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:36,400
they. So they got a crossover that they
can put in that they take their meter

551
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:43,280
out and they they like straight pipe and
then that way some homeowner can take a

552
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:48,880
garbage I mean
a a garden hose and hook it up and then

553
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:53,920
turn it on and let it drain their water.
And we've got a gentleman doing that

554
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:58,960
right now. He has a substantial amount
of mud coming in. And when the mud comes

555
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:03,440
in, what causes that thing?
>> It's probably

556
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:08,960
where
we was when it like the tanks go low

557
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:14,800
like rock, you know, it's probably
sucking the line. So it's stirring up

558
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:20,800
all the stuff that's like in the duck
line like in all the word

559
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:26,960
cast.
>> What causes?

560
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:31,680
» Yes, sir. after years of years of water
running through it and stuff, it kind of

561
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:36,319
it looks like rust chunks and it'll
build up that side. So when you're when

562
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:41,040
the line the tanks go dry and it's
pulling that water, it's stirring that

563
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:44,800
stuff up. It's just like when you turn a
fire hydrant on the first time you use

564
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,359
water is the water is dirty when it
comes out the fire hydrant where it

565
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:50,960
hadn't been running. How do you clear
that out?

566
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:56,880
» This co b flushing lines by blow offs
and running hydrants and everything.

567
00:52:55,359 --> 00:53:00,960
» But a lot of it has to do with where
people sit. If people sit in the bottom

568
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:05,680
of a hole, it's not going to get out of
there like it would. You're sitting up

569
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:09,119
high. It's kind of like air. Air don't
air gets trapped in the bottom the high

570
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:14,800
spots where you have to get leave air
out of the line when you're flusting.

571
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:21,680
There's also things that the oil plants
been doing with polish and stuff.

572
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:27,520
» That's reason it's reduced a lot. Um and
holder lines there's ways that they can

573
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:30,920
keep that stuff from
turning loose.

574
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:37,680
There's ways you can make it turn loose.
You go one way or the other too far. So

575
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:43,760
that's something that Tom's done a
really good job on at the water plant.

576
00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:50,400
So until we have these big
breaks or breaking a lot, most of it's

577
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:55,160
been taken care of, I believe. But I
want to go back to the city other

578
00:53:56,240 --> 00:54:05,520
February 13th line was hit by city
during work.

579
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:10,880
We make mistakes, too. We fix them. You
know,

580
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:17,040
that was an accident. So, March 18th, a
motor vehicle accident hit a fire hider

581
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:22,960
on Charlie M. Fix that. May 13th, the
rocking old pump station was down to the

582
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:29,040
pressure. That's going to happen. So, we
want to make things right. But the main

583
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:33,599
thing is we need to have people call in
a complaint. They got dirty water. The

584
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:38,960
city of Wah don't want nobody that have
dirty water. There's no way that we can

585
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:44,800
clean their water. Just app just just
call. And if they can't get a hold of

586
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:48,280
the city, call me. My phone number is
out there 8647232793

587
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:56,000
and or call another council. I
>> get calls

588
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:59,440
on this.
>> Any other member of

589
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:04,319
» our people are very busy. They uh they
take this to heart and we we don't want

590
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:10,640
nobody having no drink water. I think we
got some of the best water around and so

591
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:15,599
I'm not scared to drink.
>> Let me let me jump in.

592
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:20,480
Looking at the positives. I see Zay
here. John and we'll say something we

593
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:28,240
already know is that we have you guys
took our water plant

594
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:32,400
needs improvement rating in July of 25
>> but that was not because of bad water

595
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,960
because
>> right I'm getting that

596
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:41,359
» we took it from that and that was
because we didn't have operational

597
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:47,440
manuals all completely filled out with
SOP in the heads or wasn't organized and

598
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:54,079
lack a backflow program too. Kathy is
making sure we have. And uh so in those

599
00:55:51,520 --> 00:56:00,240
six months, thanks to you and John and
Tommy, we went from that to the highest

600
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:06,079
rating state the state has can give. And
that was impressive. Down 14 and over

601
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:11,520
14.5 million dollars worth of
improvements to our water system

602
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:17,280
implemented that or finalized that since
June of 2024. We have a lot more to go.

603
00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:19,920
We know that. But I want to know those.
And the final thing going to what Mr.

604
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:23,599
Underwood was saying.
>> I ain't done yet, but I'm

605
00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:29,839
» I'll finish this because I really want
to get this out here. Since century, the

606
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:34,000
city of Wajala's water has never failed
to meet or exceed EPA standards. And

607
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:38,720
they don't just test it coming out of
the water. They test it in various

608
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:43,440
random locations around the water
system. And it has never failed to meet

609
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:49,040
or exceed EPA standards. So the water's
clean, the water's good. That has never

610
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:53,680
been the issue of all the water. I drink
it all the time.

611
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:59,920
» I want to put this out there, too. I
know Facebook is a thing out there. I

612
00:56:56,319 --> 00:57:05,760
don't do Facebook. So I may look at it,
but what I see is people just want to

613
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:11,119
stir stuff up. So they need to call the
city. The city don't do something or a

614
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:15,680
council member or something, then you
know you got

615
00:57:12,799 --> 00:57:20,160
All I've seen is you see dirty water and
stuff, but for the most part, I seen

616
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:23,359
something on there last night where some
a woman was fuss and they told her to go

617
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:27,760
back to sleep. She don't even live in
the city. So, you know, that's just I

618
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:32,319
ain't even going to listen to Facebook.
You don't call the city then, you know,

619
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:37,599
we're not going we can't fix nothing on
Facebook. They need to call city hall.

620
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:42,640
you know, uh,
it upsets because this is a city of Waja

621
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:46,720
and we're sitting here and we've got a
name for our, you know, people are all

622
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:50,799
talking about that we got bad water. We
got bad water. People won't move here

623
00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:55,839
because of that. That's wrong. We don't
have bad water. We can fix it. It's

624
00:57:53,359 --> 00:58:00,160
dirty sometimes, but we can fix it.
There's reasons why. And then you call

625
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:06,240
that
now ad hoc committee, some of the stuff,

626
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:11,440
you know, we some personnel issues. We
hadn't been able to start today. When we

627
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:18,160
interviewed the new city administrator,
he was very he was very uh enthusiastic

628
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:23,280
about the water and the problems and
stuff that he saw, you know, and it's

629
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:28,559
not nothing that stuff we need to do.
So, this water water advisory, you know,

630
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:34,240
we need to improve some of the contact
options and enhance the customer access

631
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:39,880
to the water department, you know. But
that's all us working together to do

632
00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:39,880
that. Uh

633
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:48,480
so improve public transparency and grant
funding and acquire matching dollars,

634
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:57,359
expand information signage and city
offices. Uh provide lines to the G GIS

635
00:58:53,359 --> 00:59:01,680
water mapping system. Uh but it's just
it goes on and on. We haven't been able

636
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:05,520
to implement this because they'll have,
you know, with our uh

637
00:59:05,839 --> 00:59:14,240
And one of the things that I would like
to do, but we were we've been talking

638
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:22,200
about it was you hear 75% of our
customer base is on the outside of the

639
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:22,200
city. Uh let's see.

640
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:30,319
While utility I was looking at advisory,
we had talked about this. voted on it by

641
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:34,799
advisory board. The board will be tasked
with advising the utilities director and

642
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:40,720
the city council with representing the
customer respective areas. The board

643
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:45,839
will compro comprise the uh council
utility committee chair a representative

644
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:51,520
from each of the following areas inside
city limits. Okone County Council

645
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:54,720
District 1, OK County District 2 and
Okone County District 5.

646
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:58,799
» You mean outside the city?
>> Outside the city. Yes, sir. Prospective

647
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:03,920
uh representatives will be required to
apply for a seat and it's similar to a

648
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:08,880
process for a planning commission or
board stinging appeals BZA.

649
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:14,160
Additionally, representative must be a
wala utilities customer and reside

650
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:20,240
within a district they represent. The
advisory board would operate within a

651
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:24,960
legislative or executive without his
legislative or executive powers. The

652
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:29,680
initiative aims to provide an avenue for
customers residing outside the city

653
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:34,160
limits to voice their concern and have
direct representation to the city. So

654
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:38,160
what that says is somebody's got a
question about something. We're all

655
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:42,400
talking. We're not going to Facebook and
this person says this or this person

656
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:48,000
says that and everything gets mixed up.
You know, they got a problem, they come

657
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:52,799
here, they get it fixed and we go from
there.

658
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:57,839
So this I don't do Facebook. I don't do
it. So I won't you got to complain. I

659
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:02,960
ain't looking at it. I don't Facebook
and not so just be blunt and honest

660
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:07,440
about it. So
we're trying. So

661
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:12,880
I'm shut up.
>> That was well done. I I do have one

662
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:18,559
observation for water advisor.
There 20 of them we had this year. 12 of

663
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:24,240
them, one of them are caused by, as you
mentioned, new new water lines, uh, five

664
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:28,160
contractors. But here's the thing, the
natural causes, the things where the

665
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:35,440
lines break.
There were five of them. 40% of that

666
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:39,680
happened three days until Saturday only
had three.

667
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:45,680
So that's just an interesting thing I
noted from that. We had

668
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:48,839
one on Saturday.
One more.

669
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:59,640
Why does it come out? They got still
dirt.

670
01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:05,400
I'm not real sure on filters

671
01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:16,000
on that part. And I mean, it could be
their side. I mean depends on what kind

672
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:21,040
of pipe they got in the house and stuff,
but I have been out in places that's got

673
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:24,880
filters on their house called or put it
on Facebook and I pulled water from my

674
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,880
side. My water just as clean as it can
be.

675
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:37,680
» Anything else?
>> Yeah, it's not always settlement. I've

676
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:44,880
seen filters on chicken houses
me evidently will oxidize out. turn, but

677
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:50,160
it's typically suspended in drinking
water and blood

678
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:57,000
to John's point that be the corrosion
inhibitor to coat the pipes to prevent

679
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,000
that from happening.

680
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:11,720
» One thing I'd like to say is
the

681
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,960
that people don't see.

682
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:24,000
Last night I received a phone call. I
called Zane.

683
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:29,280
Somebody reported to me the water out
off the playground road and Zane already

684
01:03:26,799 --> 01:03:37,119
knew about it. He went away. I said,
"You will meet me at city hall. I'll go

685
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:45,359
because I feel like I need to see what's
going on so that I can

686
01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:53,079
not defend them but understand it.
So when they located it got out there

687
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:53,079
and I want you to understand it rain.

688
01:03:53,200 --> 01:04:00,960
There was a tree that Zayn and I
probably couldn't reach around both of

689
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:07,039
us. You know we would have had to hold
hands

690
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:13,200
and at the time he had him and Jesse
there and just so happened that I was

691
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:18,000
there
and boys pull out chainsaws

692
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,000
and go cut trees so that they can get to
these lines

693
01:04:18,799 --> 01:04:25,000
» in the
>> in the

694
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,000
string.

695
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:31,440
Not only that, they were power lines
down.

696
01:04:29,359 --> 01:04:38,240
And I don't know about you, but me and
water and power don't mix.

697
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:45,520
Um,
Zayn and I went to the yard there at

698
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:51,359
their place to load pipe.
It was almost an hour. It's just me and

699
01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:56,319
him. Now, he had other people coming in,
right? because this was this was a

700
01:04:54,160 --> 01:05:01,680
pretty big undertaking.
We get back over there and these two men

701
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:07,280
in a hole almost up to their knees in
mud with it still rain

702
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:11,839
with some water coming out of the pipes.
the things like that that people don't

703
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:17,599
see that I wish they would wear GoPro
cameras

704
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:23,039
and record it so that some of this
negative mess would shut up

705
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:27,760
because the dedication that that man
sitting right back there showed he said

706
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:32,160
you want me to take you home it's over
in the morning I got a business to run

707
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:36,640
he said you want me to take you home I
said no sir I'll be here you go

708
01:05:36,799 --> 01:05:44,799
And it it seemed like to me, Zane, it
took forever because I go to bed pretty

709
01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:52,799
early. Matter of fact, I was in bed with
my telephone ring.

710
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:57,280
» He never one time complained.
>> Never one time he complained.

711
01:05:55,599 --> 01:06:01,920
He complained about his lip hurting
because he had chewed so much to back

712
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:07,039
trying to calm his nerves that it
burning inside of his mouth.

713
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:13,839
That's the only complaint he made. He
never one time complained.

714
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:20,720
So what I'm saying is
on these scenes, there's more to it than

715
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:24,799
taking a tractor and digging a hole and
fixing a pipe.

716
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:30,480
Well, Chris ain't cut out for work like
that. I'll just be honest with you. I I

717
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:35,520
work in air condition every day.
But this is what I'm going to tell you.

718
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:42,720
We've got the most dedicated crews of
men and women here in W that I believe

719
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:49,839
we've ever had. And for that, I commend
you, Zane. This town wouldn't be what it

720
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:54,559
is today without you. And uh if it means
anything, you old boy like me sure does

721
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:59,520
appreciate.
>> I I agree with that. We said at the top

722
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:02,400
of the meeting, we have just our
strength in this city, the team that we

723
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:07,119
have
dedicated voice.

724
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:12,039
» You all pull together over and over.
>> That being said, I don't give you

725
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:31,200
one more thing. That's where the blood
comes back in when the water's in that

726
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:34,200
big hole. That's where we're going
sometime.

727
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:41,839
» All right.
System. All right. Let's move on to the

728
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:45,760
administrative report.
>> Actually, I don't have anything to pass

729
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:51,200
things I want to talk to you about going
forward.

730
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:58,000
First off is I got you may have
administrator mailbox to correspond with

731
01:07:54,880 --> 01:08:02,720
something youth energy is launching a
main street revitalization grant

732
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:05,720
program. It looks like it fits exactly
what

733
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:14,680
improvement streetscape enhancement
blinded windows

734
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,680
programs

735
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:21,600
finding signage things like that. You
said that to me.

736
01:08:17,839 --> 01:08:26,319
» Yeah. Yeah, right here. I was But we
definitely need to I would think we

737
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:29,600
qualify. The problem is application
period is August 3rd and 31st.

738
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,640
» That's all right.
>> Okay.

739
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:35,640
» Just working under pressure. Well, there
is

740
01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:39,960
this is

741
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:46,279
about

742
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,880
Thursday

743
01:08:50,480 --> 01:09:02,319
restoration may not be here but it's
>> $3 million restoration.

744
01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:08,080
» It's almost said
It's 10,000 ft linear feet of debris

745
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:15,920
removal in one direction and 10,000 in
the other direction with about

746
01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:18,920
25 feet of filter. It looks like a big
clean

747
01:09:23,679 --> 01:09:32,000
» I think it's going to be a lot.
No, it starts over here at the tree farm

748
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:37,359
and goes that way.
>> That's where street cut it in half.

749
01:09:33,679 --> 01:09:44,239
» No, be oral street. So run actually run
street across the popular street across

750
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:51,839
church street underneath
highway bridge all the way back to Toma

751
01:09:46,799 --> 01:09:57,320
Lake back in back behind.
Yeah, of course I talked today

752
01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:07,040
somehow, but September one is when the
occur that would be not next Tuesday,

753
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:12,320
but the following Tuesday.
So that's a very tight I think the city

754
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:17,600
got in a time frame here. I understand
they applied for grant but ACOG's going

755
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:20,560
to help administer it now. Woman named
her last name

756
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:27,000
» Jill Francisco.
>> Yeah. So anyway, okay, that's a pretty

757
01:10:27,679 --> 01:10:33,760
request for
>> Oh, yeah. Opening on Thursday.

758
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:37,679
» Big open be Thursday.
>> Actually, this we got this grant about

759
01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:44,080
the time that the federal shutdown
started. So, it got held up and that.

760
01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:46,560
So, we're kind of on a tight schedule to
get this started.

761
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:50,120
» So, we'll have to have a meeting between
now and September.

762
01:10:55,280 --> 01:11:05,040
They have to have time to check.
So I think September

763
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:09,120
we have to have council approval of this
before September 1st. I think he wants

764
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:16,080
to come on September 1st. The impression
I got today

765
01:11:11,199 --> 01:11:19,040
I think he wants to open check
but anyway

766
01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:24,400
» would you confirm that timeline?
I'm not talking today. He has to be

767
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:30,880
approved by September 1st.
>> Okay.

768
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:36,080
» Last thing, one thing I talked to mayor
before we leave, we I'd like to talk

769
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:41,000
about possibly a budget amendment allow
us to restate the revenue expending

770
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:51,520
on that since he closes out the fiscal
year next year. Make sure he understands

771
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:54,960
to do, but it may be I might be in the
best position when this process is over

772
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:59,120
be able to come forward and explain it
to you because it's going to require

773
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:07,760
creation of accounts for outstanding
projects. So I want to plant that seed

774
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:13,920
in your mind that need finance Jason
which is substantial

775
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:18,960
» and this this revolves around
>> absolutely

776
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:26,400
yes. So as soon as I get a date from
Jason, I'll let you folks know

777
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:29,400
what needs to be done
here

778
01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:34,040
bridge. I know we just opened up an
account

779
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:42,840
today and we're sending it back over. So
that should be in a separate

780
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,840
» account.

781
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,040
Um

782
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:02,440
» did you get So you got the minutes and
everything.

783
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:02,440
» Yes.

784
01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:09,000
» That's all I

785
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:16,320
All right. So, uh
I just want to circle back. Chris, would

786
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:23,239
you make a scan of this? This is the
weather committee, our fire department.

787
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:23,239
Send it to all of us and also Sanford

788
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,480
is not here.

789
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:39,600
» Okay. I don't believe we have anything
more I have anything more to add at this

790
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:43,360
point. So we will entertain a motion
that we

791
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:48,640
» motion to
>> motion and a second. Any discussion? Any

792
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:53,000
protests? No. Okay.
>> All in favor say I.

793
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,000
» I.

794
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,600
I don't