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and you can see the reason why it is
it's important you have reserves are not

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reserved you want to create certain
pockets of the city want to make sure

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the development comes instantly say it
at a minimum at the same level

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the compromise

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whatever I usually think I'll enter here
it's my first one okay so we're two

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Rockies how usual have the tendon every
sitting in for the last year new chairs

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my mother's yeah yep only one

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we can fill in

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we're spitting the names first time I've
been here so I just want to know who's

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talking
it's all it is no it's actually streak

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myself I just volunteer my own time to
stream for people I do it for all the

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city meetings as well done it for the
last year-plus and just for all the

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people that can't be here tonight or
that physically cannot be here I've just

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volunteered my time for I guess for the
last year and I was just available

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tonight many there is another meeting so
I decided to come up

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works just Karl
Dennis I think he's here you guys

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thought I think I her office not that I
wouldn't like goldfish

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yeah

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right this s that use your microphone so
I can hear you

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audience participation all right so we
have a discussion around the tents

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ordinance and we are going to put that
up for review this evening

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- handy and say it was a case it came in
front of us come month to go down we're

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trying to look at the overall ordinance
for the city of Walled Lake in

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comparison to the surrounding cities you
have some additional information on that

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correct yes that's correct
all right basically this issue came as

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as attorneys of an area is summarized in
the memo the fact that this EBA there

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have been some instances in which people
are required to go receive a variance

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because they'd like to have any Sigma
uniform six foot high fence for the

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property to secure their their rear
yards and that need to includes the side

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yards and that usually means that our
organs doesn't allow it

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our owners requires the fence to step
down to four and a half feet in the side

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yards most other communities do have a
uniform fence to allow for the securing

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of mainly access to that side yard if
someone has a side door so that's why

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some and because it allows for the
property owner to

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better function utilize theirs their
property it's secure and mainly also for

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their had their pets and animals they
can make sure that there they can't let

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them out and not have to worry about
them video so it's it is pretty common

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to have that kind of allowance for side
yards okay and then what would we be

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receiving in order for us to rate that
first of all the discussion then request

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came to the Planning Commission it was
referred to the planning City Council is

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the planners indicated that was the that
the issue regarding the laki uniformity

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between the next site height in the rear
and the side yard was sort of the

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impetus that brought but but City
Council referred the entire fan

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smartness basically to the Planning
Commission to look at that issue and

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basically the entire offense ordinance
and in its entirety

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areas of the ordinance that could be
improved upon as well and brought up to

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date I know one of the issues that one
of the council members brought up was

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under the the current defense ordinance
there can be no decorative fence any

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lakefront job
if there is no principle structure of

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the leaf right here and some of the some
of the people head there

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if their house one side of the street
then they have a lakefront access parcel

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on the other side of the street and
people who have their house on the

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lakefront parcel are allowed to have
decorative fences whereas the people who

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have their house on the other side of
the street you just have to clear the

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clear line can't have different offenses
so so that issue came up for the

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Planning Commission to take a look at as
well so it's pretty much a talk about a

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review on the integramouse ordinance um
there may be other improvements that

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could be made upon it you know the
planning consultants recommendation I

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think the next step would be for the
planning consultants who either need to

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make some proposed text amendments or
maybe bring back a memo or something the

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next meeting to their other areas that

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my mission to you yeah okay I appreciate
in one area that has been brought to my

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attention that being requested was the
to examine the ordinance and term this

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is forgiven offense and the link law
offenses is to look at the comparison of

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know by in terms of thought that would
be called outbuilding ignore like their

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quad I like storage you know buildings
are you know so I'm have like

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entertainment buildings on my leg lots
is to match like the know by side you

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know a lot of the people probably
aggressive it asks a lot of questions

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and especially when the defense
conversations about those can that be

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looked at as well well the the Planning
Commission is is free to make any

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recommendations that it wants to the
City Council regarding them any

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amendments to the zoning ordinance
that's essentially how the process works

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Planning Commission does that study and
then finalizes the it's process with a

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recommendation to City Council that it
goes through City Council and and then

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City Council makes the final call as to
whether or not to adopt the Planning

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Commission recommendation in or and part
or or me to do something completely

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different so okay so like if you looked
at same time and then you said that yeah

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yeah I think you could probably include
that any recommendation if you've

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thought about appropriate and that's to
match you know so my three court the

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other side of the lake is allows that
and the decorative fencing and where

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they've done correctly can mean drastic
improvements to properties a lot I would

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say the tax case as well
is there anything else that we want look

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you're basically saying had a court date
our offense ordinance properties yeah

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yeah because there's some nice
entertainment facilities around there

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like lots like out

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comments on the picture so that means a
little bit more that easy to interpret

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are there ads and wherefores a little
bit easier for like we did put your

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hands in understand with yeah sounds a
good idea

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alright we do have the decisions you
make on the height for the walls

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any change of the variance and you have
a meeting variance meeting the 24th or

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no no because you're right now the
ordinance in effect is still in effect

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for yours
it won't change until if if any

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potential changes are made to that
ordinance it will be represented by

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Planning Commission and then it'll be
considered and potentially adopted by

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council on once council adopts it after
certain number of days it becomes

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effective so right now you have to still
deal with the ordinance a time on the

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it's a fella yesterday you're not part
of the conversation is not a public

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meaning and posted much harder it's not
a company

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he's a meeting close you cannot record
People's Congress notice of publicly

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committing a felon or if you're
recording me right now and I'm leaving

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call your lawyer you obviously have a
problem

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I have a problem with your recording
private conversation here not part of my

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just call my jacket on now I just put
everything accordingly right now I am

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because we're having them yeah well
that's proof that I'm the warning though

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if you can't afford to drive the Queen's
you cannot part yes to be right to be

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here you have a right to record me I
have no problem with that because it's

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evidence that you've been warned
if you post private conversations that

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you're not harder and it wasn't in a
public meeting

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I'm gonna please abide by the law I am
please no I think you need to reread up

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on the laws of you as a lastly shake
this throughout the years that I've been

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volunteering my time that cannot be
there physically and lasting people with

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the record you block it for me you tried
to pick a fight you call people to pick

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a fight with people I know what you're
doing so unborn you know show me where I

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did that please because if I did Oh
happily not what do you got in my face

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and made a point of it and and I'm
telling you now that that was offensive

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I played with you then I treated you
like a child that you are when did I get

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in your face no you did this you're in
my face right now you're about ten

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inches from stomach to stomach right now
you are that's okay so what's your point

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you are in my face confronting me about
something I'm a felon I'm not if you're

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recording conversation if you'd like my
email address please board with a long

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train telling what I want you to publish
that give that to your lawyer I'll let

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your lawyer tell you what the longer
I've read the law I've consulted with

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lawyers like every right to be here in
to have a right to be here with you have

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a right to record the public means you
have a right to record this that's to

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publish conversations with these people
I have no internal organizations you

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work I saw yes I have not stopped I've
not stopped recording since the meeting

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about five minutes ago you can't record
the people I'm not in the conversation

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I am leaving right now good for the last
year I have always recorded till I walk

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out to my vehicle and I leave the
property if you're out would you ever

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say how come you've never had an issue
with me until then until I start I have

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an issue when you had your friend come
up here and try to confront a business

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owner and start a fight with him who's
my friend and you know who I'm talking

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about
I don't know clean up your act keep

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recording do what you want to do you're
gonna try to be right now I don't have

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any friends here I don't have any
friends that come up here I don't know

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who your folks are then how do you say
that my friend

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came up and one of those addresses in
through heels you brought him over who

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lives in Farmington Hills that I know
the only person that I know that was my

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grandmother I'm not but I do have every
right to but I'm not no I am NOT I'm not

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recording I'm on my way out right now
can record in front of me if you waited

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about 30 seconds I would have been gone
so if you wanna leave this conversation

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hoarding private conversations you
weren't part of I mean no it is not well

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how'd you get the towhead upon the loss
for that because I'm threatened what I

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really don't want a lawyer and I have
every right to be here I have every

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right never ever be here you have
everybody record the meeting ended the

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meeting ended and that's when you
require a bit of conversation wrapping

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up my personal conversation on my cell
phone I gathered my belongings put my

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jacket on and I started to walk out the
door that's fantastic all I have to do

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is pick up these two things which should
take in less than 30 seconds and I'm

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leaving have a good night have a good
night I am done with our conversation

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right now thank you always something
I've done this for over a year I've

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never had a problem with it I'm doing
the same thing I'm doing right now I'm

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recording a meeting for people that
cannot be here because they're

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physically not able to or they can't I
have every right to record or stream do

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whatever on public property
according to Michigan law I've consulted

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with lawyers if someone has a problem
with it that is the first time in over

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14 months that I've ever
confronted about it I've done the same

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exact thing that I have done every
single time I have everything recorded

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if I never gotten in his face he's
talked to me maybe a handful of times

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that was it I was in passing there was
one where I was standing next to the

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door yeah he was trying to get through
he said excuse me to the person in front

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of me
they moved I was still standing off to

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the side and he bumped into me which I
have on video and he shoved me into the

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doorframe and I said you know excuse me
would be nice and he said excuse me got

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to where his nose was touching my ear
and then proceeded to go through the

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doorway I have no problem with him I
don't have any friends that come up here

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I don't even know who the hell he's
talking about

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because none of my friends have ever
come up here but I'm here to record a

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meeting and stream it to the people that
physically cannot be here or cannot be

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here due to time and you want to go
check that's it very good server thank

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you very much I appreciate it you're the
first person I think from the city that

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has ever complimented me and saying
thank you for doing that so I think that

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as a huge you know what's really funny a
couple months ago I looked in to see

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what neighboring communities had that he
didn't and the only one besides all of

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the cities on the spinal column Wixom
you know White Lake whoever you know all

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through that list all of our surrounding
communities they all do it besides

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commerce yes who are down because they
are revamping everything online and how

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they did their meetings walk lake is the
only community that does not do it

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I noticed that while over a year ago so
that's why I decided to volunteer my

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time to a lot of people to be able to do
that oh yeah why why are they nervous

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it's public influence it's a public
meeting right here I'm in a public

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building on public land in America you
know it's picking up my belongings

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packing up my stuff and he comes up and
confronts me I was wrapping up a

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conversation on my cell phone through
texting and he comes up and he confronts

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me about recording conversations
illegally and that's a felony in that my

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lawyers are gonna get them off like dude
I have no interest in your conversations

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I'm just leaving for the last year and a
half I've always recorded till I leave

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the premises you can't you absolutely
can you have every right to so this is

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what it is
have a good night

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good night