1 00:00:00,140 --> 00:00:00,620 Okay. 2 00:00:05,310 --> 00:00:18,770 It's called to order for the meeting. And to make a roll call. Thank you. Mayor Wu. 3 00:00:19,250 --> 00:00:25,870 Here. Mayor Pro Temtray-guards. Here. Council Member Kahulis. Here. Council Member Friedman. 4 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:35,450 Here. Council Member Long. Here. Thank you. Thank you. So we have an item for discussion 5 00:00:35,450 --> 00:00:46,630 and review as the number one is the seniors and the modernization project manager and I have 6 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:52,410 the staff. Thank you. Thank you Mayor Melissa Barcelo will provide information and we do have 7 00:00:52,410 --> 00:01:00,070 the PowerPoint for this as well. Thank you. Thank you, manager. Good evening Mayor Wu and 8 00:01:00,070 --> 00:01:06,010 City Council members. Thank you for being here this evening. Tonight we're 9 00:01:06,010 --> 00:01:13,290 going to be talking about a potential project. A in in staff's opinion a much 10 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:18,410 needed approach and some attention to our senior center. We are calling it a 11 00:01:18,410 --> 00:01:23,750 senior center modernization project, but we will get into all of the details. 12 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,280 We're 13 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:41,080 As you all know, being residents of the City of Walnut and council members, the City of Walnut 14 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:46,940 treats our senior center very much like a community center. It hosts our special events, 15 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:56,700 it hosts our older adults programs, it hosts everything from dance classes to karate in the evening 16 00:01:56,700 --> 00:02:05,320 to Mountsack older adults classes, so we really do use our senior center as our community 17 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:14,540 center. As such, it's over 30 years and has provided services for thousands of residents 18 00:02:14,540 --> 00:02:20,980 and individuals throughout the community. It does provide our daily recreation, our congregant 19 00:02:20,980 --> 00:02:27,140 meal program, health and wellness classes, special events, and lots of volunteer opportunities. 20 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:36,160 Both community meetings, right, we've had city meetings in there, we've had county meetings, 21 00:02:36,380 --> 00:02:38,960 we've had election meetings, we've had all sorts of things. 22 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:45,300 So as you imagine, after 20 years of continued use, many of the original interior finishes 23 00:02:46,020 --> 00:02:47,900 have reached the end of their useful life. 24 00:02:49,410 --> 00:02:56,150 Truly today, the need of our senior center is to help make the interior spaces reflect 25 00:02:56,150 --> 00:03:02,230 what we think we want to showcase to everybody who comes to our senior center and our community 26 00:03:02,230 --> 00:03:05,790 center. Modernizing these public spaces throughout 27 00:03:05,790 --> 00:03:14,210 the facility will improve functionality, accessibility, comfort, and overall experience for both 28 00:03:14,210 --> 00:03:18,230 for seniors and all community who uses the facility. 29 00:03:19,030 --> 00:03:19,410 Next slide. 30 00:03:22,890 --> 00:03:28,350 We are going to break up the facility into two separate phases 31 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:30,150 conversationally speaking. 32 00:03:30,850 --> 00:03:34,910 The first one is going to be our most heavily used room 33 00:03:36,290 --> 00:03:40,550 in meeting with senior center and community services staff 34 00:03:41,010 --> 00:03:43,030 being a staff member in that facility. 35 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:49,450 There's countless things going on all of the time, switching from bingo to lunch to 36 00:03:49,450 --> 00:03:56,390 karate, opening and closing the partitions, you know, as fast as we can, it's always 37 00:03:56,390 --> 00:04:00,130 in movement to provide a space for all of our programming. 38 00:04:01,090 --> 00:04:10,170 As such, we've, we have not only been really hard on our facility, but the dated finishings 39 00:04:10,170 --> 00:04:11,910 also show the age of the facility. 40 00:04:12,930 --> 00:04:15,950 What we're proposing is that we need to replace the flooring. 41 00:04:16,490 --> 00:04:19,950 We would hope with a more upscale would like finish. 42 00:04:21,570 --> 00:04:23,630 Refreshing our paint and wall finishes. 43 00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:25,690 Replacing lighting. 44 00:04:27,310 --> 00:04:30,030 Replacing and modernize our room partition system. 45 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:32,930 So Jen and her staff don't have to run through 46 00:04:33,910 --> 00:04:37,350 and push the big partitions anymore. 47 00:04:37,350 --> 00:04:44,290 We'd like to update cabinets, countertops, and address the much needed storage in the facility. 48 00:04:44,750 --> 00:04:49,490 We'd like to find a home for all of our chairs that hang out along the wall. 49 00:04:50,730 --> 00:04:55,250 We want to improve the stage area with a more permanent integrated design 50 00:04:55,250 --> 00:04:58,170 and help us accommodate that additional storage. 51 00:04:59,190 --> 00:04:59,930 Additionally, we want to coordinate. 52 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:31,230 He finishes for a cohesive upskill, but durable appearance. Next slide. We do want to focus on our stage. The picture on the left. These are purely conceptual. I wanted to show you the vision that staff has in the facility. They were amazing. They went and did site visits at other facilities to get ideas of ways that they could improve our own facility. 53 00:05:32,090 --> 00:05:39,130 So we took those inspiration photos and our own needs and kind of came up with some ideas 54 00:05:39,130 --> 00:05:41,450 of the direction we would like to move towards. 55 00:05:42,270 --> 00:05:46,930 As you can see in the photo on the left, it's a more integrated built-in stage, 56 00:05:47,910 --> 00:05:53,810 updated finishing behind it, or you look to the right, is that new storage area, 57 00:05:54,370 --> 00:05:58,910 so cutting off where there's piano and some other miscellaneous items, 58 00:05:58,910 --> 00:06:05,110 updating the stage and the floor to a more wood-like appearance and giving the 59 00:06:05,110 --> 00:06:10,630 overall room a refresh in the drywall and the paint to truly match the aesthetics 60 00:06:10,630 --> 00:06:15,910 and have a more updated look. The photo on the right shows you the other 61 00:06:15,910 --> 00:06:21,370 perspective of the room so you can see how we would like those changes to really 62 00:06:21,370 --> 00:06:22,790 tie the whole room together. 63 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:25,580 Next slide. 64 00:06:28,060 --> 00:06:30,380 The second phase of our potential 65 00:06:30,380 --> 00:06:36,080 project would then be moving to help that look transition through the rest of the facility. 66 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:44,080 We were all over at the senior senate right now, you've been there many times, and while staff 67 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:49,580 in the facility and public work staff do an excellent job of trying to maintain the facility, 68 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:58,240 it really doesn't have that warm welcoming feeling. We want to update the lobby and create a 69 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,120 stronger first impression for everybody who walks through the doors. 70 00:07:02,420 --> 00:07:06,140 We propose to do that by replacing flooring through the primary public areas. 71 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,520 We want to update from our existing carpet to a tile finish. 72 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:18,660 We'd also like to modernize the reception desk for improved accessibility and staff functionality. 73 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:25,380 I assume when you've walked in there ourselves have walked behind the desk, seniors do it time 74 00:07:25,380 --> 00:07:26,200 in a time and again. 75 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:32,880 And so we want to just give ourselves, we want staff in the facility to feel more functional 76 00:07:33,390 --> 00:07:35,700 and help more defined look. 77 00:07:37,130 --> 00:07:43,980 We'd also like to cover those brick surfaces with drywall to give us a more updated and 78 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:44,860 finished look. 79 00:07:46,370 --> 00:07:52,900 We'd also try hoping to add senior center and city branding as well as way finding signs 80 00:07:52,900 --> 00:07:53,820 throughout the facility. 81 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,740 and create a community news wall with a digital display and organized flyer space. 82 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:07,300 Most importantly, we want to update and refresh our furniture, lighting, paint, and supporting storage. 83 00:08:08,460 --> 00:08:09,040 Next slide. 84 00:08:10,580 --> 00:08:14,660 Once again, conceptual, not necessarily the direction that we're going, 85 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:23,320 but we wanted to show you what that dry wall and paint in tile can do to the overall look of the facility. 86 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:30,460 So we are hoping for a more modern, clean, bright, neutral look throughout the facility. 87 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:39,480 The picture on the right shows just an idea of how we can free brand our senior center 88 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,280 and showcase some more modern furniture and our front desk. 89 00:08:45,340 --> 00:08:52,660 We have a lot of things we would like to address in these areas and just wanted to show 90 00:08:52,660 --> 00:08:53,900 you what we think we can achieve. 91 00:08:55,260 --> 00:08:55,700 Next slide. 92 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Some additional enhancements that we've talked about briefly are that throughout the facility 93 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,000 we would like to address all the cabinetry and countertop spaces. 94 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:13,160 We would like to integrate that community kind of message board and flyer system to be 95 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,120 something a little more substantial and currents in our technology. 96 00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:23,280 Lastly, the bane of my existence when I was a rec leader in that facility, our 97 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:27,940 partitions have seen some age throughout the facility, so not only do we need to 98 00:09:27,940 --> 00:09:32,360 address them in our assembly room, but also in our side rooms or the other 99 00:09:33,220 --> 00:09:36,140 classrooms on the other side of the facility. Next slide. 100 00:09:38,170 --> 00:09:39,310 As you can see we're 101 00:09:39,310 --> 00:09:46,850 looking at a more updated countertop, a more updated cabinets throughout the 102 00:09:46,850 --> 00:09:52,830 facility, our community news board, to be some place we can truly showcase what's going 103 00:09:52,830 --> 00:09:58,590 on not only at the senior center, but throughout the city, and then the last photo is going 104 00:09:58,590 --> 00:09:59,830 to be what we think those. 105 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:08,320 Partitions would look like if they were really given a clean and modern look, not only helping the functionality, but the aesthetics of the room. 106 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:31,500 Lastly, next slide. We'd like to talk about what we think we wouldn't potentially need in a potential budget. The assembly room is in need of repair. We have looked at quotes and contractors to 107 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:38,960 help us with the partitions. We have looked at drywall subcontractors. So really taking 108 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,320 a pause and looking at the whole room and its entirety, we do think that we can do some 109 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:50,720 amazing work with a million dollars. We would like to proceed with the highest use interior 110 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:58,420 space because that really is the home of so many of our community events, our classes, 111 00:10:58,420 --> 00:11:05,360 are lunch program and really is where the heart of the senior center takes place. 112 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:11,520 Currently we are proposing a general fund approach to this phase one. 113 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:20,120 Phase two would then be the lobby in the side rooms or the rest of the finishing throughout the facility. 114 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:26,360 We'd like to break it up into two phases so we're not just completely closing our senior center. 115 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:36,180 staff, we met on Jen had some creative ideas of how do we move programming, re-invent where 116 00:11:36,180 --> 00:11:39,840 maybe our front desk is for a little while so that we can still provide some of those 117 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,760 essential services while we would potentially be in construction. 118 00:11:44,820 --> 00:11:50,920 If we also broke it up into two phases not only could we start this timeline now but we could 119 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:56,740 use that phase one to leverage that the city is committed to a final project and help leverage 120 00:11:56,740 --> 00:12:01,020 some additional funding if you'd like staff to go and seek some additional 121 00:12:01,020 --> 00:12:06,200 supplemental funding. I recommended approach is to initiate Phase 1 with 122 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,540 General Fund and to leverage the completed project to support outside 123 00:12:09,540 --> 00:12:16,200 funding for Phase 2. Timing, as you can imagine a highly used facility, it's 124 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,960 difficult when when do we close? When do we do? How do we be the least 125 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:27,360 impactful to all the operations of the facility in talking with our community 126 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,140 services manager and looking at the facility. They they've proposed the 127 00:12:32,140 --> 00:12:37,700 timeline that we could be the least impactful to their operations if we 128 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:45,680 started an early spring in February. So we would like to start now so we could 129 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:50,360 be in construction in February 2027 where all of the facility programming can be 130 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,740 relocated to another facility or off-site somewhere. 131 00:12:56,980 --> 00:12:57,440 Next slide. 132 00:13:00,930 --> 00:13:04,430 This evening, staff is seeking direction on a scope, 133 00:13:05,170 --> 00:13:09,630 phasing, and the proposed funding for this potential project. 134 00:13:10,690 --> 00:13:12,790 More importantly, we're looking to see if you support 135 00:13:12,790 --> 00:13:14,510 the two phase modernization approach 136 00:13:15,330 --> 00:13:18,290 if we should proceed with phase one of the assembly room 137 00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:20,430 with general fund money. 138 00:13:20,430 --> 00:13:26,410 Okay. Talking about phase two of lobby and flooring and what the final funding plan would 139 00:13:26,410 --> 00:13:31,130 like to return to council. And then lastly, council's pleasure. Any alternatives, any 140 00:13:31,130 --> 00:13:36,250 questions that you might have? Staff's happy to address any of those, but we are looking 141 00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:37,310 for feedback. 142 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,580 Thank you, Marisa. And also, 143 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,720 any question? 144 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:56,180 Yes, please. Thank you, Mayor. In terms of the phases, I know you mentioned early February 145 00:13:56,180 --> 00:14:00,060 that's when it would start. Do you have an estimate of what it would be completed? 146 00:14:00,580 --> 00:14:07,140 Good question. So in talking with some contractors, it really depends on what that final scope looks like, how big we need to go. 147 00:14:07,820 --> 00:14:13,140 We could be done in a little of six weeks. It could take 12 weeks. So it really depends on what that final scope is. 148 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,340 We have expressed the need for an expedited timeline. 149 00:14:17,580 --> 00:14:22,340 So it kind of depends, unfortunately, but we're thinking between that six and 12 week mark. 150 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:30,620 I don't want to thank you for bringing this up. 151 00:14:30,940 --> 00:14:40,020 I think we've had conversations before that this is a great project to bring to the 152 00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:46,300 residents to show them that we are passionate about bringing the best facilities that we 153 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:47,600 can to our community. 154 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:59,960 And like you said, this would be, I think you called it the stronger first impression, I think it's really important when we walk into the senior center that it is a strong impression. So I know we're all imbued with this great passion to make. 155 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:28,560 Well, not just the best place possible, but I have a few questions. The sound system. Is that also part of an upgrade or is that separate cost? That has already been completed. One more time. That has already been completed. So staff is it? So we would be fine. Okay. Is there a drop-down screen? There is currently a drop-down screen in talking with staff. The second one would add an additional drop-down screen to the back of the stage. 156 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,140 we have a current drop-down screen. We actually have two. This would add a third. 157 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:40,260 Okay, great. And again, we were over there today celebrating Kim Wath's, but it is a situation 158 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:45,360 where those brick walls and just it's very evident that it's dated and I think the city of Walnut 159 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:52,600 deserves to have a center that is that they walk in and they're just like, wow, this represents 160 00:15:52,600 --> 00:16:17,980 So, I would also like to propose the idea potentially of, I know it's right now the City of Walnut Senior Center, I think we should look at potentially having a conversation about making it Walnut Community Center because of making it so updated and not changing anything for the seniors just making it community center so that all residents kind of feel like, hey, that's a place. 161 00:16:17,980 --> 00:16:27,080 And that's a discussion obviously that I don't know if it's in here we have that discussion or if it's another point that we have that discussion. 162 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:33,640 I think depending on how the conversation turns out there's probably some potential future conversations. 163 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,420 We can look into the history of the naming of the facility, the funding and what that might look like. 164 00:16:39,420 --> 00:16:42,660 We would definitely come back for a specific conversation. 165 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:50,520 There was just some restrictions because I know when it was originally built wasn't there certain funding because it was supposed to be a senior center and open to around it. 166 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,700 I'd have to check there was some proposition A funding through the county of Los Angeles that was received. 167 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:06,240 We'd have to check into what that grant agreement looks like if there were naming restrictions if there were any use restrictions on times those things. 168 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:13,240 So I will undoubtedly, I will look into all of that and bring back to see if it's feasible or not. 169 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:24,780 I'm sorry, the scope of the study session are physical improvements, so it's fine to raise those issues, but it's really not on the agenda for discussion. 170 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,300 So those are things Melissa and if she needs our help, we're happy to help look at and bring back. 171 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:44,860 Yeah, I just have some follow-up questions like on councilmember Law said so so the timeline will be like February, I mean six to eight weeks, right? So where are we going to put those other activities? 172 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:48,940 What are the current activities that's happening during that February timeline? 173 00:17:48,940 --> 00:18:01,620 Good question. I'm going to allow Jen to speak if she'd like to. We've had some initial conversations about what we could do with those facilities are those programs that happen on a continuous basis basis. 174 00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:06,080 But she has some good ideas of where we can move our lunch program. So I'll let her speak to that. 175 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:11,940 This wouldn't affect the other side of the Senior Center, so a lot of the activities that 176 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:16,820 happened during our lunch program and in the middle of the day when we do have reoccurring 177 00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:21,800 things going on in the assembly room, we would move to the other side and allow our social 178 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,240 programs to be more in the morning and in the afternoon to accommodate our lunch program 179 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:32,980 to move that there during the spring time around February to about early April. 180 00:18:32,980 --> 00:18:38,880 me is our spring session for Mountsack. So for that one's normally a little bit lower 181 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,400 attended. I'm not sure why. I think just our seniors kind of tend to travel during time 182 00:18:45,170 --> 00:18:52,100 and just around the Easter holidays, they're gone for a while. So another option is having our 183 00:18:53,860 --> 00:18:59,080 healthy aging classes which are our most popular aerobics classes. Those can be moved to the gym. 184 00:18:59,540 --> 00:19:02,180 So that was an option that we were talking about as well. 185 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:16,800 Okay, she's already reached out to our YWCA who offers our lunch in the facility to see how we can have like a mobile type program so we don't we're still continuing to feed our community is still continuing to feed our seniors. 186 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:22,720 So some of those essential services, she has some great ideas of making sure that there's no impact to those. 187 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:28,880 They might look a little different, they might, you know, go to a different location or be outside. 188 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:33,660 I don't know, what will you will plan, but we are committed to making sure that there's no laps and services. 189 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:43,080 Thank you. And another follow-up question regarding Council Member Fidma said, the projector, right, or drop down. 190 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,120 Maybe you can check. 191 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,400 There's a drop down DVLED. 192 00:19:50,020 --> 00:19:51,540 Just to see how much would it cost. 193 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:59,560 But idea as the seniors see me walking through the facility in Jen and Rob and I all talking they get really excited, right? 194 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:29,940 What's happening? And they have ideas. One of those things, I just so happen to come in on a bingo day and see what their program looks like. We would also explore opportunities to improve that. Can we get a new? Can we go away from a bingo board that I will no longer have a space for and do something more digital? We've also already talked with an AV contractor of how do we get the best AV quality without having any interruptions, right? We want someone to be able to stand in front of it comfortably. 195 00:20:29,940 --> 00:20:41,760 So we have started those conversations and rest assured we will explore those as soon as we possibly can if we are given a green light to bring back a final scope. 196 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:47,000 We'll make sure we bring what a potential finished product will look like to count before we proceed. 197 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,460 Yeah, so you mentioned we already upgraded our audio system. 198 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:55,020 Maybe we can incorporate their video systems as well. 199 00:20:55,340 --> 00:20:55,960 The audio visual. 200 00:20:56,420 --> 00:20:57,100 That's a great idea. 201 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:57,820 Yeah. 202 00:20:57,820 --> 00:21:11,020 Yeah, staff would be excited. Yes, seniors would be excited. We definitely think that's a good investment to a room that we maybe could open up the use for a little more broadly than we do currently is it. 203 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:19,520 Yeah, very excited in this phase one. Hopefully we can push this through in February. 204 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,140 I already think you've been to seven, that's it, Mayor. 205 00:21:23,300 --> 00:21:23,540 Thank you. 206 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,200 Thank you. 207 00:21:24,460 --> 00:21:25,900 Council member Low, do you have anything? 208 00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:27,780 Council member, that you got? 209 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:29,760 I really like the stage improvement. 210 00:21:30,660 --> 00:21:33,100 Probably my most favorite one of the whole thing. 211 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,520 Yeah, well, it's my most favorite, 212 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,320 because you need to update that stage. 213 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,560 So, yeah, I like the designs that you guys came up with 214 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,260 and I call your work you done. 215 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:42,780 Thank you. 216 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:43,600 Thank you. 217 00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:48,380 So for me, it's a divisible room, right? 218 00:21:48,380 --> 00:22:03,600 Yes, so the divisible room will be in phase one correct the entire room would be in the entire assembly room, which is that large room we see on the easterly side of the building that would be phase one. 219 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,420 Okay, 220 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:18,440 just making sure because, you know, when you divide the wall, you need to have to, I mean, your vision system and your system should absolutely so we did counsel's counsel was 221 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:27,720 is supportive enough as a staff that we were able to do an update to our AB system already 222 00:22:28,220 --> 00:22:32,100 to help with how we use that AB-type room front and back. 223 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:38,200 So we've been able to put some investment in our current system, but once we take a pause 224 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,820 and add other things, we'll make sure that we wrap it all together and that you work seamlessly. 225 00:22:43,420 --> 00:22:44,920 So we'll go over to that. 226 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Yeah, I know it's well, um, but you go, well, I mean, everyone wants to use our senior 227 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:50,580 center. 228 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:59,060 Everybody does and I think if we everybody wants to use, um, yes, the facility and if we 229 00:22:59,060 --> 00:23:04,640 do update it, I can imagine that those means and requests will only increase. 230 00:23:05,140 --> 00:23:05,440 Okay. 231 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,700 Thank you. 232 00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:16,720 Yes. I have a question. We never have the renovation changing the carpet or anything. We never have the. 233 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,480 The question we have changed the carpet one time. It's been. 234 00:23:24,450 --> 00:23:33,110 It's been maybe eight eightish years since we've done it. Maybe only six. It just really isn't the correct finish. 235 00:23:33,730 --> 00:23:37,890 type of flooring for how heavily that facility is used. 236 00:23:38,370 --> 00:23:42,090 We've tried carpet tiles to have staff be able to pop them out 237 00:23:42,090 --> 00:23:43,050 and replace them. 238 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:48,690 The carpet gets cleaned every six months by a professional company. 239 00:23:48,970 --> 00:23:50,010 We just can't keep up. 240 00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:54,470 So that is why we're proposing to switch to a different finish. 241 00:23:54,710 --> 00:24:00,290 We really want to go to a tile, make it look more more updated, 242 00:24:00,290 --> 00:24:03,190 but also help us in that maintenance cost. 243 00:24:03,370 --> 00:24:08,350 Other than the carpet, I mean, anything upgraded? 244 00:24:08,850 --> 00:24:11,610 So instead of carpet, we would like to go to tile. 245 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:14,290 I mean, before, before, hasn't it? 246 00:24:14,290 --> 00:24:16,530 No, it's only been carpet since the facility has been open. 247 00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:17,850 So they've flooded it. 248 00:24:17,850 --> 00:24:18,650 It's a full time. 249 00:24:18,910 --> 00:24:19,030 Yeah. 250 00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:21,870 So the entire building only carpet is being replaced. 251 00:24:21,910 --> 00:24:27,310 Inside of the assembly room, we do have an LVT type material. 252 00:24:27,310 --> 00:24:33,410 so you can see that's a little more high traffic. We also have that material that's in our back 253 00:24:33,410 --> 00:24:42,970 arts and crafts room. We redid that about, oh man, I did that project so maybe eight years ago or so 254 00:24:42,970 --> 00:24:50,430 and pulled it into our club room too as well. It does withhold traffic a little bit better, 255 00:24:51,310 --> 00:24:57,010 aesthetically pleasing. I don't necessarily think that it's the most aesthetic option, so we are 256 00:24:58,370 --> 00:24:59,950 hopeful that we can work with 257 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:29,900 The vendor to show us some long lasting, high traffic solution. Every traffic. Yeah. But in that lobby, we really do want to have a tile. We want it to look. We want it to look nice. Okay. Hi. I'm kind of, yeah, this building has been 20 some more years. Well, I want to say appreciate this. The maintenance. It's been 20 some years because 258 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:39,260 the commercial is always way until very, very quickly fast. I mean, so 20 some more years, 259 00:25:39,620 --> 00:25:45,580 the life cycle, I would say 20 some years life cycle for commercial is very good, 260 00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:51,660 and most of the very good maintenance and a very good user. 261 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,040 Thank you. I will echo the citizen, the citizen, the resident, and then we'll come to use. 262 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,240 they are very, very behave, very, very polite. 263 00:26:02,940 --> 00:26:06,780 Yeah, I wanted to give the credit to the staff 264 00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:07,900 and also the user. 265 00:26:11,460 --> 00:26:17,800 And I'm okay with the modification, modernization, 266 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,200 the two-phase. 267 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,300 But we're going to open a bit 268 00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:39,840 For the to look for the event or something good question. So with the million dollars of a project. There are different mechanisms that we can use that are our current city code allows for. 269 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:49,220 So we will look into some different options. We want to prioritize not only timeline, but obviously be in the best interest of citizens dollars. 270 00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:57,000 So there are different ways that we can perform this work so because we're looking at our current code to see what's allowable. 271 00:26:57,380 --> 00:27:07,640 Because most of the scope of work here, it's very common. It's not specialties. Probably are you going to have a design? I've been interior designer too far. 272 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:16,690 was it? Good question. We also so you can be a traditional approach to a facility would be you 273 00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:22,650 would have a designer come in and you would pay them to give you a scope. You would pay them to 274 00:27:22,650 --> 00:27:29,590 give you a bid document and then bid document then open bid for good and a better price and good 275 00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:36,110 quality then for another 20 years that time we are retired you know. Absolutely. There are other types 276 00:27:36,110 --> 00:27:42,830 of procurement tools that you can use that help you work directly with the source so it's either 277 00:27:42,830 --> 00:27:48,950 a sole source type vendor or a nationally bid type vendor. So there are different things 278 00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:53,290 that we can do. We'll definitely work with the attorney to make sure that we are dotting all 279 00:27:53,290 --> 00:27:58,730 of our eyes and crossing all of our teeth. But we have some ideas of how we can make sure that we are 280 00:27:58,730 --> 00:28:05,750 in construction in February okay and obviously will be in compliance with public 281 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:14,510 contract code yes and then last one I I want to take a person member in the 282 00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:19,990 female and say the name well when we see Damien Barr city of Damien Barr 283 00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:31,510 they are done by center. And then maybe I'm kind of okay with the any more common name 284 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:39,150 for everybody, for all the users. That would be, you know, sometimes like my mom, sometimes 285 00:28:39,150 --> 00:28:44,970 No, I said, hey, why don't you go for a senior send-out, oh, am I not, oh, yes, you know, 286 00:28:46,210 --> 00:28:50,970 it's, yeah, it's, yeah, it's, yeah, it's, I'm, I'm, I'm okay. 287 00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:55,690 I can't hear that, and we will look into all of the documents and the funding to make sure 288 00:28:55,690 --> 00:29:00,230 that if it is feasible, and then we will agenda for a future discussion, absolutely. 289 00:29:01,010 --> 00:29:04,110 Yeah, thank you, so any question or comment? 290 00:29:04,110 --> 00:29:05,450 Yes, we may. Thank you. 291 00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:15,710 Not to scare the city attorney, but I also am very much looking forward to the research that you guys will do in terms of naming. 292 00:29:16,750 --> 00:29:22,770 In terms of the assembly room, I am looking at the images and I know it's three stairs up. 293 00:29:23,290 --> 00:29:27,270 In terms of accessibility, do we have another way to get on stage? 294 00:29:27,270 --> 00:29:34,410 current is more accessible. Absolutely, absolutely. So we do want to make sure that our facility is completely compliant. 295 00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:42,390 Right now we do have a ramp in the back of our stage. Our stage is more of a temporary modular type setup. 296 00:29:42,390 --> 00:29:50,650 You've all been on there. And we need staff would like some additional storage. 297 00:29:50,650 --> 00:29:56,990 So we want to take that space from the existing ramp because we are accessible and use it for storage. 298 00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:59,530 We don't want to be inaccessible. 299 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:25,480 We are looking at putting in a lift in the backside. So if you look at that rendering behind those double doors, the right hand side, you'll be access to a lift, which will keep us compliant. Okay. Glad to hear that. Thank you. And just really thank you for presenting. I think our community really loves our facilities and anything we can do to improve our infrastructure. I really appreciate. Thank you. Thank you. 300 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:36,940 on the community news board. So that would be outside the the welcome center where it says, 301 00:30:36,940 --> 00:30:41,440 you know, welcome to the city of Walnut, where it is right now, right? It does the current 302 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,940 one you're saying that is after enhancements still looks a little dated to me. Like, could 303 00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:52,220 we do a digital board there as well? I just feel like we're we're trying to modernize it, 304 00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:55,360 but you're bringing it potentially back to a lot of pamphlets. 305 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,040 Absolutely. 306 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,620 So our senior population loves the flyer, right? 307 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,260 Well, I get that. 308 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,840 I want to point out that that middle portion is a screen. 309 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:05,720 Oh, is it? 310 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,400 I really can't. 311 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:07,400 I apologize. 312 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,500 I couldn't tell. 313 00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:10,300 So that's good. 314 00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:13,320 That is currently working on incorporating a big television screen 315 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,100 in that space. 316 00:31:14,260 --> 00:31:15,220 We like that. 317 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:16,100 We want to go digital. 318 00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:17,220 So I apologize. 319 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,120 My renderings are, you know, not the best. 320 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:20,800 That's fine. 321 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,380 I didn't want to invest too much into this, but that is digital. 322 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,520 And flyers have a purpose, I understand that. 323 00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:33,260 But as we look potentially down to the, to however many, 10 to 20 years, I would like 324 00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:37,860 to consider what would be an alternate use to all of those cubbies that may not have flyers 325 00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:38,620 in them eventually. 326 00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:39,840 But that's stand out. 327 00:31:40,060 --> 00:31:44,300 You know, again, as long as there's a, that middle part just didn't look that way to me. 328 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,060 So it doesn't. 329 00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:49,080 I'm hearing not feedback, but I rest assured that's, it is the digital display. 330 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,200 But I hear you, we can look at that as we refine the scope. 331 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,380 Yes, yes, please. 332 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,040 Actually, I noticed that as well. 333 00:32:00,380 --> 00:32:02,540 I should have pointed like, hey, features. 334 00:32:03,060 --> 00:32:04,100 Yeah, I'll take that feedback. 335 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:05,800 That's it. 336 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,180 That would be in phase two. 337 00:32:07,580 --> 00:32:09,180 Yeah, because it's located in the lobby. 338 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,020 The other two photos on that page would be during phase one. 339 00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:15,400 We're more focused on phase one right now. 340 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,540 We're wanting to talk about phase two as well. 341 00:32:17,540 --> 00:32:23,340 So we are focused on phase one, but we're happy to discuss either of those phases. 342 00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:28,920 We're looking at some feedback of how quickly council would like to go, what approach 343 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,960 we'd like to take to funding, where council's pleasure, we're looking for some direction. 344 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Yeah, and just thank you for your presentation, it looks really good, but how about funding? 345 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:43,300 Are we okay with the funding? 346 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:52,360 So funding we are proposing to use general fund reserves for phase one and then phase two would be council's pleasure. 347 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:59,280 We either fund that with general fund reserves as well or we get direction to seek alternate funding. 348 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:07,720 If I may excuse me, the funding question ties in with the timing as well. 349 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:12,660 The Council authorizes general fund use for phase one, we go. 350 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:20,360 As we're doing that, I've already had conversations with certain elected official staff regarding 351 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,580 our potential plans. 352 00:33:21,580 --> 00:33:25,400 I told them about this meeting tonight that we would follow up with them after this, because 353 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,620 I just wanted to be respectful of the process and the council's feedback and direction. 354 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:37,400 So really what we're looking at is if the council gives a green light, general fund phase one, we go. 355 00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:44,020 That doesn't mean we're not looking for funding, but what happens is that when we get bids and do all that, it's fully funded and we can go. 356 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:51,240 As we do that, if there's some funding that's tied in because they ask, well, what is the city doing? 357 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,080 We're already put a million dollars to half of this and we like you to help us finish finishing. 358 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:02,020 That's a very easy way of putting it, but you know that's what the advantages of doing it that way. 359 00:34:02,420 --> 00:34:10,880 We are obviously going to wait for council to give us a proper feedback on it, but that's kind of what we're looking for is to see if we can go with phase one. 360 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,160 And then as we go into phase two, hopefully by then we do have some money committed. 361 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:18,620 Otherwise we would come to you to kind of give you an update. 362 00:34:18,620 --> 00:34:24,500 Hey, we got this pot of money. We're gonna have to go back to the general fund for another piece of it or however that works 363 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:33,960 So that that's kind of the quick snapshot of so the the facelies or the budget it is fiscal year. No, no, that's what we're here to 364 00:34:34,580 --> 00:34:35,640 to talk about 365 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,500 and then 366 00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:41,840 This year we are surprised for how many hundred thousand 367 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,780 And last year, well, I'll let our finance director have. 368 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,720 Yes, he's physical, yeah. 369 00:34:47,700 --> 00:34:49,060 Thank you, thank you, Tom. 370 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,300 Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the city council. 371 00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:54,180 This fiscal year, we have not finalized our numbers yet, 372 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,380 because it just ended on June 30th. 373 00:34:56,540 --> 00:34:59,240 So our financial reporting process lags several months. 374 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:16,800 As a lot of our revenues are received on a cruel basis rather than a cash basis. So staff is currently engaged in the financial preparation process for that. And we should have a number for usage, probably within the next month or so. Are you talking about 25, 26? Yes, sir. 375 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,380 We we have a budget. Yes, we do. 376 00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:37,300 This question is what's the surplus in the budget? Oh, I'm sorry. 377 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:43,740 The surplus in the budget. I apologize. It's about $200,000, $100,200,000. 378 00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:48,620 Why is it $200,000? That's correct. That could go way up or it could stay there 379 00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:53,220 or it could go down to. Yes, it's correct. Just budget. Just focus. Yes. 380 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:57,080 And being through the being that we're only two months into the fiscal year, 381 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,920 It's a little bit too early for us to tell whether that's going to pan out or whether that's going to be better 382 00:36:02,820 --> 00:36:07,360 You know our track record is very strong and bringing the community surpluses, but 383 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:14,620 Through the finance director's credit. We always have to be guarded and not assume that you know something's around the corner that 384 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,680 Does it I will remind the council in our reserves? 385 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:25,140 We are clear of 40 million and our reserves have gone up over 30% over the last 36 months 386 00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:30,440 last fiscal year for sure we we have a surprise just don't know how much the 387 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,700 surprise right we don't know that information yet sir the previous fiscal year so the 388 00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:40,000 fiscal year that ended on June 30th of 2025 we had a surplus I'm sorry we had a 389 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,340 general fund reserve of about 41.7 million dollars so this project for 390 00:36:45,340 --> 00:36:52,420 instance would be funded by money from that 41.7 million dollars okay one thing I 391 00:36:52,420 --> 00:36:58,660 want to touch on that thank you Tom for bringing this up is staff are always looking for grants right 392 00:36:58,660 --> 00:37:02,960 we have two million dollars it's been awarded for to Minting Center and I do want to point out the 393 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,940 fact that we haven't talked about that project just quite yet reason being is it's federally funded 394 00:37:07,940 --> 00:37:13,620 so not only do we have to make sure that that gets to us but then there's a lengthy agreement 395 00:37:13,620 --> 00:37:19,580 process there are a lot of different requirements for those types of funds amazing that we got them 396 00:37:19,580 --> 00:37:21,800 I'm happy to go through all of that, 397 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,160 but it's a different timeline 398 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,580 than we're looking at for this project. 399 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,240 So, we will continue to look for all of the opportunities. 400 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:31,100 If we're not doing it for this project, 401 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,340 we are going to continue for other projects 402 00:37:33,340 --> 00:37:36,560 to help alleviate the impact on general fund going forward. 403 00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:43,650 I also did hear our city messenger say, 404 00:37:44,350 --> 00:37:45,410 40 million in reserves. 405 00:37:46,050 --> 00:37:47,550 And I think we have to remember that, 406 00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:51,150 even though we're so proud of the surplus every single year, 407 00:37:51,150 --> 00:37:53,310 and that is always what we're shooting for. 408 00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:56,190 The city has saved and saved and saved. 409 00:37:56,430 --> 00:38:00,830 So I feel like the residents who have saved for a rainy day, 410 00:38:01,030 --> 00:38:04,390 this is putting back into the city. 411 00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:12,810 And I'm really, I'm supporting this, using general funds if needed. 412 00:38:13,790 --> 00:38:15,770 How much is our unfunded pension liability? 413 00:38:17,650 --> 00:38:20,650 are unfunded mentioned liability in total is about $10 million. 414 00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:25,970 Annually, we pay about $1 million to the to CalPERS for a UL. 415 00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:38,480 I mean, so are we looking, sorry mayor, I guess, are we looking then to put this onto an agenda for approval then? 416 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:44,820 Or are we looking for a, we're potentially in agreement to move forward on a phase? 417 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,600 So staff would like to expedite this as fast as possible if we're hearing a 418 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:56,660 consensus this evening, we are going to quickly do some finalizing of a scope to bring back 419 00:38:56,660 --> 00:39:04,760 a final project ready to approve. It will come to Council. That's good direction. I was, yeah, 420 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:13,920 I'm okay to go further, staff go further to come out with more precise, not precise, 421 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:20,240 more better estimate see how much money I mean really needed for this this 422 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:27,980 two-phase I mean if you if you want to go for the interior designer to design 423 00:39:27,980 --> 00:39:35,620 and then with the design I mean with the building document that's I mean I'm 424 00:39:35,620 --> 00:39:41,660 okay that way then we know how much money we're really going to spend and then 425 00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:49,120 And then by that time maybe we already have the first quarter and then we probably know 426 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,960 how much money we're spending. I mean how much money we were getting I mean this fiscal year. 427 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,980 I, I, I'm still hoping of this fiscal year we have suppressed, you know, yes. That's for me, you know. I do. Reason we're asking about a budget now, right, is that we want to make sure that we don't bring something to council that's not in line with what your initial expectations were, we are not going to be. We're going to be as frugal and responsible of this budget as possible while making sure that all the current 428 00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:35,740 needs are addressed. We are not going to be frivolous in the things that we pick. We're 429 00:40:35,740 --> 00:40:43,040 going to focus on functionality, durability, long-term use of this facility, but it's very different 430 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:50,680 if I were to come and bring you a $500,000 scope to a million dollar scope. I wouldn't be able to do 431 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:58,360 as much, right? So I wanted to be able to work into what that potential cost could be. Am I going to 432 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:04,360 try to reduce those costs? Absolutely, absolutely. I'm going to try to get the most we can with that 433 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:13,140 budget and be as responsible as we can. But I do want to know where comfortable in that range 434 00:41:13,140 --> 00:41:14,500 of a million dollars. 435 00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:22,960 Thank you. And also in terms of going forward and looking at not just phase 436 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:30,900 one but also face two. Do we have an estimate of when we want that to occur after phase one? 437 00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:38,900 Are we thinking at certain time not to impact the the senior center or are we thinking in terms of 438 00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:44,720 when the legislature meets to try and see what grants or funding is available? 439 00:41:45,140 --> 00:41:48,160 Depends on feedback from council. If I have 440 00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:57,820 instruction to use general fund money, that time line is going to be much, much faster 441 00:41:57,820 --> 00:42:01,200 than if we were going to be seeking additional funding. 442 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,800 I do have a funding request ready. 443 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,640 You know, we, Tom has already seen one and provided it to our local officials. 444 00:42:10,020 --> 00:42:12,900 We are always asking, we are always looking. 445 00:42:13,180 --> 00:42:15,640 We've gotten $2 million for Jim and Senior. 446 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:21,780 at 1.2 million dollars for this versus Ampark, so we are always looking at ways to really alleviate 447 00:42:21,780 --> 00:42:29,420 that general fund, but with these grants come just different timelines. We think that this 448 00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:36,500 community center, or this senior center, I apologize, is a way for us to show that we have 449 00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:42,000 invested in our facilities ourselves, right, and that just like Tom was saying is that if we do get 450 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,860 that direction from council, we can leverage that we funded a million dollars of phase one. 451 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:53,880 We are truly committing to offer a phenomenal facility not only to wallet residents but to 452 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:59,880 the community and the region at large. That definitely makes our request a lot stronger. 453 00:43:00,660 --> 00:43:07,720 Absolutely, thank you. In terms of what my colleagues think looking towards phase two to have that 454 00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:13,900 conversation now if it's not too premature. I would love to have our other elected official 455 00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:25,060 support us in this venture to modernize Walnut thoughts. I also am in support of modernizing 456 00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:29,820 this facility and also when it comes back to Council I would like the information about 457 00:43:30,980 --> 00:43:36,420 name change possibility. One quick thing and there's not 458 00:43:36,420 --> 00:43:41,260 something staff typically does, we take orders from the community and the council, but in this case, 459 00:43:41,260 --> 00:43:46,820 when we, if and when we do and to go into phase two, we would like the council to be actively involved 460 00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:52,120 as well because there are some officials that have not given us money. Some have, some have not 461 00:43:52,120 --> 00:44:00,100 elected, and it's probably time for them to focus on the cities that are financially responsible with 462 00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:06,180 taxpayer money and help those cities continue to do good things instead of, you know, other cities 463 00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:10,620 that may be just raised taxes and are in deficits and they go help them which they need help too. 464 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,940 We're not saying they don't but we would we would ask the council to engage as well 465 00:44:16,580 --> 00:44:21,480 because yeah we want to keep our general fund robust and strong but this is a situation where 466 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:26,720 yeah we will use general fund money if the council agrees for the first phase and then the second 467 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:32,360 phase have a portion of it if not a good chunk of it be paid through other means. 468 00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:37,840 Yeah, sure, definitely. We're a long support for the phase two. 469 00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:45,640 For me, I'm phase one. We can proceed phase one, allowing construction to begin the 470 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,160 February 5th, 2027, that will be great. 471 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,720 And I want to thank the also Council member, Linda Feedman's, if ever we can now. 472 00:44:55,340 --> 00:44:57,540 We will talk about the name of the future date, absolutely. 473 00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:57,720 would be. 474 00:44:58,460 --> 00:44:59,500 Well, so let me invite you guys. 475 00:45:01,070 --> 00:45:32,600 I'm just curious why we're feeling this is so urgent, the urgency that I'm hearing here. Why does staff feel this is so urgent? Good question. So in talking about how do we find that gap in a low in programming, so to speak of a highly utilized facility, no time is a good time, but February is the best time. So if we don't start now and we want to do February 20, 28, we've now postponed this project for a whole year. 476 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:38,560 So, we think that, to be the least impactful, our preference is that February timely. 477 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,380 That's the reason we brought it today. 478 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:47,560 I think we probably need to hear from the oral communications probably, but the people 479 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:47,980 in the public. 480 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,300 Okay. 481 00:45:49,220 --> 00:46:00,760 Let's start the, let's move on to the oral communication, any person would like to address any 482 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:30,460 I don't remember anyone coming through my community saying, well, we're thinking about 483 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,760 We had a real problem with doing COVID feed and seniors, so it looks like another tobacco. 484 00:46:36,940 --> 00:46:41,920 What are you going to do in all the furniture that we have in different parts of the unit? 485 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,240 I mean the senior center, what are you going to do it on the chairs, the desk, the center, where are you going to hide those? 486 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,760 Now I'm going to ask a question, I'm going to listen. 487 00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:59,040 If you can just address the council, Mr. Harrison, and any follow-up that the council can provide, we can do that. 488 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:05,140 And if we have to have a follow-up meeting, that's one and two terms of getting public input and I'm meeting up your time 489 00:47:05,140 --> 00:47:07,600 I don't want to eat up your time. We'll stop that and restart it 490 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,000 But in terms of public input, this is the beginning process of it 491 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,540 That's why we have a study session and there could be no official decision made other than just 492 00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:19,720 Feedback from the council for us to know how to proceed and then there'll be 493 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,040 Publicly noticed council meetings about it because obviously it's a lot of money 494 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,520 But if ultimately the the community doesn't want it of course, you know 495 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,680 the staff's listening and council will. 496 00:47:31,420 --> 00:47:33,620 It was public health and we know the fact about this. 497 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,120 I mean, it just came up. 498 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,060 No one's come to the public to say, 499 00:47:37,220 --> 00:47:38,780 do we want to do this, do we not want to do this. 500 00:47:39,220 --> 00:47:42,440 I'm in favor of the floors, the painting, what have you. 501 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,980 I know that when you do a project like this, 502 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,780 yours have cost over one. 503 00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:50,240 It's not going to come out of million dollars. 504 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,380 That's absurd. 505 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,400 Then going out to the public asking for money, 506 00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:55,280 you may get that. 507 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,640 But a third-year-old building is not that old a building. 508 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,460 Do we make good use of it? 509 00:48:02,580 --> 00:48:03,040 Yes, we do. 510 00:48:03,260 --> 00:48:06,420 But it's not used as much as one would think. 511 00:48:06,940 --> 00:48:10,220 I come here, like two or three times a week, and it's never made. 512 00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:13,160 The crowd has ever seen it was right now, with Kim leaving. 513 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,200 Other than that, it's sparsely used. 514 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:24,020 But again, like I said, my whole object and the object and this is, it's not that old. 515 00:48:24,020 --> 00:48:30,980 We have not gone out to the community to see if they want to spend the money or did they want to remodel you say staff does it? 516 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:41,800 So I don't know how staff came up with the idea of remodeling that particular building, if you go remodel that one, then you're going to turn around and say if we need to remodel this one, too, up the road. 517 00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:47,340 And if indeed you're going to do that, you must have been doing both at the same time or just back to back to back. 518 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,620 Again, I'm more concerned with the seniors being fed because we really did a terrible 519 00:48:54,620 --> 00:48:55,300 job with that. 520 00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:59,960 As she's talking about moving them into several places, etc., these are the seniors they 521 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:00,940 can get around like that. 522 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,480 Storage, facilities, things that we have, chairs, tables, etc., what we're going to do with 523 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:07,580 that. 524 00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:08,620 They have the most important. 525 00:49:09,060 --> 00:49:09,800 It's not the money. 526 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,080 I take fluorine. 527 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,420 We're really going to use fluorine in these paintings, but you look like you're trying to 528 00:49:14,420 --> 00:49:19,040 make a Taj Mahal, Taj Mahal out of the seniors, center there. 529 00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:24,500 So again, I would hope that you reach out to the public to find out if what they want, 530 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,600 not just simply coming up with these ideas. 531 00:49:30,310 --> 00:49:30,650 Thank you. 532 00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:33,670 Mr. Warren, did they get back with me? 533 00:49:34,010 --> 00:49:36,590 Someone will get back to me on these questions, I guess. 534 00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:39,650 I'll be happy to be with you anytime you'd like, Mr. Harrison. 535 00:49:40,110 --> 00:49:40,690 I'll be back with me. 536 00:49:40,890 --> 00:49:43,050 And no, I'll be with you myself. 537 00:49:43,390 --> 00:49:44,330 That's probably the best. 538 00:49:44,330 --> 00:49:50,550 And we can talk it, talk it over, and I'll certainly, you know, we'll make sure this process 539 00:49:50,550 --> 00:49:55,330 remains open and transparent, because as you said, it is important to have it that way. 540 00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:56,590 Hello. 541 00:49:57,310 --> 00:49:58,250 My name is Vijay. 542 00:49:58,670 --> 00:49:59,730 I'm sure you guys know me. 543 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:29,760 I have a few comments and questions here. I'd like to say you're born very well. I really love the place. But we are talking about two points. I don't know how much million hours to do this renovation. Every time I've spoken to the city staff, I've been told that we don't have any money in the budget for this. Anything we ask for. But all of a sudden, we find 2.5 million hours 544 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:35,760 for this project, which is kind of, I don't understand the process you have, okay? 545 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:42,280 Alpha said, and they find the money, when they want to do something, really, they find the money. 546 00:50:42,660 --> 00:50:45,980 But when people ask for something, there is no money, there is no value. 547 00:50:46,580 --> 00:50:49,420 So that's kind of, and I don't understand the process. 548 00:50:50,020 --> 00:50:55,080 And I hope, I wish, some of you can explain me, what is the process? 549 00:50:55,080 --> 00:51:00,440 Well, I often said that we found two and a half million dollars surplus, as I think 550 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:07,320 after prevention was 200,000 dollars last year or so, not a whole lot. Am I right? I don't know. 551 00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:13,580 Very little surplus. And now, we have found two million dollars to spend. There is something 552 00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:22,680 I wish. You guys, somebody can answer me that question. Another question I have is senior center itself. 553 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:28,320 Wow, it's a beautiful place, it is as old as this place here. 554 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,520 Why don't we don't know where this place is also, if you didn't know where it's in your 555 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:31,820 center? 556 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:38,380 I mean, look at that, I'm looking at all our picture, why do we know it only one and not 557 00:51:38,380 --> 00:51:38,760 the other? 558 00:51:39,540 --> 00:51:43,320 You don't know where both of them take 5 million dollars and do it, why not? 559 00:51:44,540 --> 00:51:51,720 But we are selecting only a certain area which you spend money on. 560 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:56,720 The question I have, and I have no answer for that, I don't know, Melissa, I have an answer for that. 561 00:51:57,220 --> 00:52:02,680 How many Walnut residents, how many Walnut residents actually use a senior facility? 562 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,000 You cannot answer it, or? 563 00:52:09,380 --> 00:52:15,480 Mr. Rickield, if you'd like to meet with us after, we can try to answer all of those questions. 564 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,140 There's not been one penny committed to this project, not one cent. 565 00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:21,040 That's what we're here discussing. 566 00:52:21,620 --> 00:52:23,300 There's nothing that's been committed to this. 567 00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:26,700 So, you know, we have a budget process, we have a funding process. 568 00:52:27,260 --> 00:52:28,060 That's why we're here. 569 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,060 But if you have specific questions regarding how many people use the facility, we can get 570 00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:34,720 all that for you and we'll have that to you promptly. 571 00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:35,700 Because it is a good question. 572 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,000 Okay. 573 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,540 Can we go back and find out as to how many residents? 574 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,200 I'm happy to meet with you, get all your questions answered, Mr. Harrison. 575 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,300 I think needs clarification on some things. 576 00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:45,560 We're happy to do that. 577 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,280 That's why we're here. 578 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:46,920 Absolutely. 579 00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:47,760 Okay. 580 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,920 Another thing, I think William mentioned that too about public input. 581 00:52:57,380 --> 00:53:03,180 If you go to a senior center, why don't you ask senior the question, what do you want 582 00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:08,860 to see, rather than somebody sitting in this big office decide what needs to be done? 583 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,860 I think we need to have public input, there's nothing wrong with that. 584 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,780 I know it's a big project and then you start with two minutes, I'm sorry, I'm thinking 585 00:53:17,780 --> 00:53:23,760 a little bit more time, but you're talking about $2 billion here. Trust me, when the project 586 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:29,880 you're over is going to be $2.5 million. Okay? That's the way it goes. Okay? Thank you. 587 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:38,840 Thank you. Any, any present in the Zoom? I'm going to say anything. 588 00:53:39,380 --> 00:53:47,040 There's no email. No one via Zoom. No via Zoom. Okay. No email, no via Zoom. Okay. 589 00:53:47,780 --> 00:54:01,060 All right, now close to the oral communication and do we have any consent on anything today? 590 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,860 No, just a study session. 591 00:54:05,220 --> 00:54:07,260 Okay, all right, thank you. 592 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,600 I would have one last comment, Mary-Woo. 593 00:54:10,180 --> 00:54:17,340 Just in terms of communication with staff, if we do go forward with trying to acquire grant funding, 594 00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:22,160 I am absolutely supportive of that and will absolutely be advocating for Walnut. 595 00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:23,020 Thank you. 596 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,860 Councilmember Law, I already have a funding request sitting here with me. 597 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,620 I'll be able to distribute that after. 598 00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:38,910 I will second that as well, that we will as part of the use of our elected officials to also 599 00:54:38,910 --> 00:54:45,650 what we can or do diligence to meet with our elected surrounding officials. 600 00:54:45,650 --> 00:54:50,890 Yeah, okay, I've been doing that ever since yeah, hopefully we get something 601 00:54:51,590 --> 00:54:59,690 All right, so other than now if we we only have five minutes for for next meeting. It's the journey 602 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,520 We'll be back, 7 p.m., thank you.