1 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:15,841 you 2 00:00:15,841 --> 00:00:16,642 . 3 00:00:16,642 --> 00:00:19,244 I'm kevin wilk, mayor of the 4 00:00:19,244 --> 00:00:20,120 city of walnut creek and 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,679 welcome to the regular meeting 6 00:00:20,679 --> 00:00:22,748 of the walnut creek city 7 00:00:22,748 --> 00:00:23,649 council. 8 00:00:23,649 --> 00:00:24,316 >> the city council is 9 00:00:24,316 --> 00:00:26,285 conducting this meeting from 10 00:00:26,285 --> 00:00:27,119 the city council chamber. 11 00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:27,786 This meeting is being video 12 00:00:27,786 --> 00:00:30,786 streamed and could be viewed 13 00:00:30,856 --> 00:00:33,893 live or later on the city's 14 00:00:33,893 --> 00:00:34,627 website as some attendees MAY 15 00:00:34,627 --> 00:00:35,260 be participating in their first 16 00:00:35,260 --> 00:00:37,660 walnut creek city council 17 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:38,731 meeting. 18 00:00:38,731 --> 00:00:39,365 I wanted to welcome everyone 19 00:00:39,365 --> 00:00:42,168 and talk briefly about the 20 00:00:42,168 --> 00:00:45,168 public comment process for each 21 00:00:45,571 --> 00:00:46,305 agenda item there will be an 22 00:00:46,305 --> 00:00:48,705 opportunity for public comment 23 00:00:49,175 --> 00:00:50,420 on the item thus if you desire 24 00:00:50,420 --> 00:00:50,777 to speak to an item on the 25 00:00:50,777 --> 00:00:53,120 agenda this evening please hold 26 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:53,679 your comments until the city 27 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:56,790 council considers that item. 28 00:00:57,150 --> 00:00:57,817 Additionally we have a section 29 00:00:57,817 --> 00:00:57,977 on the agenda titled public 30 00:00:57,977 --> 00:00:59,977 - 31 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:01,420 communications which is for 32 00:01:01,420 --> 00:01:04,420 public comments for items not 33 00:01:04,824 --> 00:01:05,491 on the agenda any comments 34 00:01:05,491 --> 00:01:06,159 during public communication 35 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:08,861 should not relate to an item 36 00:01:08,861 --> 00:01:11,731 that is on the agenda this 37 00:01:11,731 --> 00:01:13,566 evening consistent with section 38 00:01:13,566 --> 00:01:14,367 9.5 of the city council 39 00:01:14,367 --> 00:01:15,680 handbook 30 minutes will be 40 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,468 initially allocated for public 41 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:18,704 communications for items not on 42 00:01:18,704 --> 00:01:21,508 the agenda additional time for 43 00:01:21,508 --> 00:01:22,175 public communications for items 44 00:01:22,175 --> 00:01:25,144 not on the agenda will be 45 00:01:25,144 --> 00:01:25,945 provided at the end of the open 46 00:01:25,945 --> 00:01:26,379 session portion of the meeting 47 00:01:26,379 --> 00:01:28,379 if necessary. 48 00:01:29,282 --> 00:01:29,982 If you desire to provide a 49 00:01:29,982 --> 00:01:32,382 public comment please complete 50 00:01:33,252 --> 00:01:33,887 a speaker id card and line up 51 00:01:33,887 --> 00:01:36,756 behind the lectern at the 52 00:01:36,756 --> 00:01:37,690 appropriate time. 53 00:01:37,690 --> 00:01:38,424 Wait your turn and then when 54 00:01:38,424 --> 00:01:40,793 you approach the lectern please 55 00:01:40,793 --> 00:01:43,196 state your name and city of 56 00:01:43,196 --> 00:01:43,863 residence for the record you 57 00:01:43,863 --> 00:01:46,600 will have two minutes to 58 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,200 address the city council to 59 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,200 pursuant to california 60 00:01:51,971 --> 00:01:52,405 government code section 54953.4 61 00:01:52,405 --> 00:01:53,206 sb 707. 62 00:01:53,206 --> 00:01:56,409 Members of the public MAY also 63 00:01:56,409 --> 00:01:57,110 participate remotely via zoom 64 00:01:57,110 --> 00:01:57,811 if you are participating via 65 00:01:57,811 --> 00:02:00,781 zoom and would like to make a 66 00:02:00,781 --> 00:02:01,448 public comment please use the 67 00:02:01,448 --> 00:02:03,750 raise hand feature or press 68 00:02:03,750 --> 00:02:04,484 star 90 for calling by phone 69 00:02:04,484 --> 00:02:06,787 during the agenda item on which 70 00:02:06,787 --> 00:02:07,653 you wish to comment. 71 00:02:07,653 --> 00:02:08,421 >> again you will have two 72 00:02:08,421 --> 00:02:10,900 minutes to address the city 73 00:02:10,900 --> 00:02:11,240 council. 74 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,328 Please keep in mind that this 75 00:02:14,328 --> 00:02:15,161 is a city business meeting. 76 00:02:15,161 --> 00:02:18,161 The city council has adopted 77 00:02:18,265 --> 00:02:18,831 rules of decorum to ensure that 78 00:02:18,831 --> 00:02:19,566 meetings are conducted 79 00:02:19,566 --> 00:02:21,966 efficiently and effectively and 80 00:02:22,702 --> 00:02:23,369 that all members of the public 81 00:02:23,369 --> 00:02:26,305 have a full, fair and equal 82 00:02:26,305 --> 00:02:27,730 opportunity to be heard. 83 00:02:27,730 --> 00:02:29,473 The city council handbook 84 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:30,711 outlines decorum expected in 85 00:02:30,711 --> 00:02:31,277 the council chamber and can be 86 00:02:31,277 --> 00:02:33,677 found on our website. 87 00:02:34,414 --> 00:02:34,948 All remarks should be addressed 88 00:02:34,948 --> 00:02:37,348 to the city council. 89 00:02:38,185 --> 00:02:38,885 Please do not use threatening, 90 00:02:38,885 --> 00:02:41,285 profane or abusive language 91 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:42,756 which disrupts disturbs or 92 00:02:42,756 --> 00:02:45,156 otherwise impedes the orderly 93 00:02:45,558 --> 00:02:45,792 conduct of the council meeting 94 00:02:45,792 --> 00:02:47,792 . 95 00:02:48,929 --> 00:02:49,529 Again each speaker will have 96 00:02:49,529 --> 00:02:49,863 two minutes to make your 97 00:02:49,863 --> 00:02:50,564 remarks. 98 00:02:50,564 --> 00:02:52,964 Written comments submitted and 99 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:54,234 received up to wo hours before 100 00:02:54,234 --> 00:02:56,103 the meeting have been posted to 101 00:02:56,103 --> 00:02:56,971 the city's website for public 102 00:02:56,971 --> 00:02:59,806 review and are included in the 103 00:02:59,806 --> 00:03:03,406 meeting record but will not be 104 00:03:03,476 --> 00:03:03,711 separately read into the record 105 00:03:03,711 --> 00:03:04,277 . 106 00:03:04,277 --> 00:03:04,778 >> all right. 107 00:03:04,778 --> 00:03:06,778 Well good evening. 108 00:03:08,415 --> 00:03:09,150 I'm kevin wilk, mayor of the 109 00:03:09,150 --> 00:03:10,417 city of walnut creek and 110 00:03:10,417 --> 00:03:11,152 welcome to the tuesday, 111 00:03:11,152 --> 00:03:11,852 SEPTEMBER 1st, 2026 regular 112 00:03:11,852 --> 00:03:14,721 meeting of the walnut creek 113 00:03:14,721 --> 00:03:15,956 city council. 114 00:03:15,956 --> 00:03:18,158 >> and if you please join me in 115 00:03:18,158 --> 00:03:21,158 the pledge of allegiance I 116 00:03:21,929 --> 00:03:22,730 pledge allegiance to the flag 117 00:03:22,730 --> 00:03:25,499 the united states of america 118 00:03:25,499 --> 00:03:26,333 and to the republic for which 119 00:03:26,333 --> 00:03:29,703 it stands one nation under GOD. 120 00:03:29,703 --> 00:03:32,103 Indivisible with liberty and 121 00:03:33,607 --> 00:03:34,642 justice for all. 122 00:03:34,642 --> 00:03:37,420 >> and city clerk susie 123 00:03:37,110 --> 00:03:37,978 martinez. 124 00:03:37,978 --> 00:03:38,312 >> would you call the roll, 125 00:03:38,312 --> 00:03:39,460 please? 126 00:03:39,460 --> 00:03:41,315 Councilmember darling I'm here. 127 00:03:41,315 --> 00:03:41,982 Councilor devaney here. 128 00:03:41,982 --> 00:03:44,382 Councilmember silva is here. 129 00:03:44,618 --> 00:03:45,385 Mayor pro tem francois. 130 00:03:45,385 --> 00:03:47,785 Dear mayor, welcome here. 131 00:03:48,623 --> 00:03:52,526 All right, so the first item is 132 00:03:52,526 --> 00:03:53,600 a proclamation for emergency 133 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:53,694 preparedness month. 134 00:03:53,694 --> 00:03:56,530 And I would like to invite 135 00:03:56,530 --> 00:03:57,364 recently retired cert member 136 00:03:57,364 --> 00:04:00,364 don providence to receive the 137 00:04:03,304 --> 00:04:05,304 proclamation. 138 00:04:07,275 --> 00:04:08,242 >> additionally, I would like 139 00:04:08,242 --> 00:04:08,875 to take a moment to recognize 140 00:04:08,875 --> 00:04:11,612 don with a certificate of 141 00:04:11,612 --> 00:04:12,279 recognition in honor of his 142 00:04:12,279 --> 00:04:14,679 retirement after 16 years of 143 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:15,649 service to walnut creek state 144 00:04:15,649 --> 00:04:17,649 and our community. 145 00:04:17,819 --> 00:04:18,820 And since completing his cert 146 00:04:18,820 --> 00:04:19,420 training in 2010, don has been 147 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:21,856 a leader in building and 148 00:04:21,856 --> 00:04:22,456 strengthening the emergency 149 00:04:22,456 --> 00:04:23,123 communications group. 150 00:04:23,123 --> 00:04:25,523 He helped establish critical 151 00:04:26,361 --> 00:04:26,961 radio infrastructure, secured 152 00:04:26,961 --> 00:04:27,562 grants to modernize our 153 00:04:27,562 --> 00:04:29,562 emergency communications 154 00:04:29,930 --> 00:04:30,597 capabilities, developed 155 00:04:30,597 --> 00:04:32,997 training and used throughout 156 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:34,636 that use throughout contra 157 00:04:34,636 --> 00:04:35,269 costa county and led our 158 00:04:35,269 --> 00:04:37,370 volunteers in regional and 159 00:04:37,370 --> 00:04:37,671 statewide emergency 160 00:04:37,671 --> 00:04:38,272 preparedness exercises. 161 00:04:38,272 --> 00:04:40,272 Through his expertise 162 00:04:41,943 --> 00:04:42,677 leadership and generous 163 00:04:42,677 --> 00:04:43,310 commitment to mentoring others, 164 00:04:43,310 --> 00:04:46,280 don has helped ensure that 165 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:47,150 walnut creek is better prepared 166 00:04:47,150 --> 00:04:49,750 to communicate and respond when 167 00:04:49,750 --> 00:04:50,785 disaster strikes. 168 00:04:50,785 --> 00:04:53,588 Don thank you for 16 years of 169 00:04:53,588 --> 00:04:54,288 dedicated service and for the 170 00:04:54,288 --> 00:04:56,858 lasting impact you've made on 171 00:04:56,858 --> 00:04:58,858 our community. 172 00:05:00,928 --> 00:05:03,328 >> now you have findlay. 173 00:05:04,232 --> 00:05:05,466 >> don't believe any of that. 174 00:05:05,466 --> 00:05:07,569 >> all I can say is it's been a 175 00:05:07,569 --> 00:05:08,603 privilege to serve this city 176 00:05:08,603 --> 00:05:11,806 for so long a city that has 177 00:05:11,806 --> 00:05:12,640 returned so much to my family, 178 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,100 to myself and my family. 179 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:15,744 We've lived here almost 50 180 00:05:15,744 --> 00:05:16,178 years so it's been a privilege. 181 00:05:16,178 --> 00:05:18,178 >> thank you. 182 00:05:19,147 --> 00:05:19,848 Well, thank you, don. 183 00:05:19,848 --> 00:05:20,482 >> don't go away. 184 00:05:20,482 --> 00:05:23,285 Don't go too far there. 185 00:05:23,285 --> 00:05:23,652 We are going to take a picture 186 00:05:23,652 --> 00:05:25,652 with you. 187 00:05:26,521 --> 00:05:26,754 And do we have a subpopulation 188 00:05:26,754 --> 00:05:28,754 ? 189 00:05:37,265 --> 00:05:40,865 This is this is not it. 190 00:05:42,370 --> 00:05:42,937 But look up here. 191 00:05:42,937 --> 00:05:45,707 >> let's do the picture and 192 00:05:45,707 --> 00:05:48,243 then we're going to grab the 193 00:05:48,243 --> 00:05:51,243 proclamation and we'll do our. 194 00:06:04,125 --> 00:06:04,359 Luckily we have something right 195 00:06:04,359 --> 00:06:04,660 ? 196 00:06:04,660 --> 00:06:04,993 Right. 197 00:06:04,993 --> 00:06:06,993 oh yes. 198 00:06:06,995 --> 00:06:07,396 Very conservative government 199 00:06:07,396 --> 00:06:09,396 regulations. 200 00:06:15,871 --> 00:06:16,204 So so family fairly short 201 00:06:16,204 --> 00:06:16,538 reverse. 202 00:06:16,538 --> 00:06:17,720 >> okay. 203 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:17,605 So I look at that. 204 00:06:17,605 --> 00:06:17,907 One, two, three. 205 00:06:17,907 --> 00:06:19,641 Okay. 206 00:06:19,641 --> 00:06:23,241 The official that we need to 207 00:06:28,984 --> 00:06:29,284 face again one more word to the 208 00:06:29,284 --> 00:06:29,651 area. 209 00:06:29,651 --> 00:06:31,387 Hi there. 210 00:06:31,387 --> 00:06:33,787 How is your face? 211 00:06:35,558 --> 00:06:35,991 I think it's o pretty. 212 00:06:35,991 --> 00:06:36,525 Thank you. 213 00:06:36,525 --> 00:06:38,360 Thank you very much. 214 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:38,994 Thank you. 215 00:06:38,994 --> 00:06:40,994 >> thank you. 216 00:07:00,749 --> 00:07:01,783 Okay. 217 00:07:01,783 --> 00:07:04,253 Next on the agenda is the 218 00:07:04,253 --> 00:07:05,121 consent calendar. 219 00:07:05,121 --> 00:07:08,910 Does any council member wish to 220 00:07:08,910 --> 00:07:08,957 pull any item for discussion? 221 00:07:08,957 --> 00:07:09,725 >> and does any member of the 222 00:07:09,725 --> 00:07:10,125 staff wish to pull an item for 223 00:07:10,125 --> 00:07:11,761 discussion? 224 00:07:11,761 --> 00:07:12,195 Ys. 225 00:07:12,195 --> 00:07:14,195 Yes. 226 00:07:17,599 --> 00:07:17,933 I have questions on item two g 227 00:07:17,933 --> 00:07:19,902 please. 228 00:07:19,902 --> 00:07:20,903 >> to g so I'll pull to g. 229 00:07:20,903 --> 00:07:23,439 And as any member of the public 230 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:24,373 wish to provide public comment 231 00:07:24,373 --> 00:07:27,373 on the consent calendar either 232 00:07:28,343 --> 00:07:28,811 please come forward here. 233 00:07:28,811 --> 00:07:29,578 Thank ou. 234 00:07:29,578 --> 00:07:32,181 Or if you're remote please use 235 00:07:32,181 --> 00:07:32,848 the raise hand feature or press 236 00:07:32,848 --> 00:07:33,582 star nine if you're calling. 237 00:07:33,582 --> 00:07:36,285 If you'd like to provide remote 238 00:07:36,285 --> 00:07:36,919 public comment if you're 239 00:07:36,919 --> 00:07:37,620 attending in person please 240 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:39,955 complete a speaker id card and 241 00:07:39,955 --> 00:07:43,555 come forward and line up behind 242 00:07:43,626 --> 00:07:44,660 the lectern at this time. 243 00:07:44,660 --> 00:07:45,161 >> it doesn't look like we have 244 00:07:45,161 --> 00:07:45,862 anybody in person. 245 00:07:45,862 --> 00:07:47,363 Do we have anybody and we have 246 00:07:47,363 --> 00:07:47,897 no remote comment. 247 00:07:47,897 --> 00:07:49,897 >> no remote. 248 00:07:50,900 --> 00:07:51,768 Okay then so can I have a 249 00:07:51,768 --> 00:07:54,704 motion on the remaining items 250 00:07:54,704 --> 00:07:55,337 on the consent calendar? 251 00:07:55,337 --> 00:07:57,337 >> all right. 252 00:07:58,741 --> 00:07:59,475 Well then I will make a motion 253 00:07:59,475 --> 00:08:01,875 on the remaining items. 254 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:02,645 I move to approve items two a 255 00:08:02,645 --> 00:08:05,450 through f and h. 256 00:08:05,548 --> 00:08:06,215 Second with a motion to second 257 00:08:06,215 --> 00:08:09,215 call the roll, please, mayor 258 00:08:09,419 --> 00:08:10,190 well, I mayor pro tem francois 259 00:08:10,190 --> 00:08:12,190 councilmember darling I 260 00:08:12,456 --> 00:08:13,255 councilmember devinney 261 00:08:13,255 --> 00:08:15,655 councilmember silva I am 262 00:08:16,325 --> 00:08:16,625 curious and okay so now item 263 00:08:16,625 --> 00:08:18,625 two g. 264 00:08:19,328 --> 00:08:22,328 Thank you very much mayor. 265 00:08:23,566 --> 00:08:24,233 The item is a five year 266 00:08:24,233 --> 00:08:27,233 agreement for a contract for 267 00:08:27,503 --> 00:08:29,903 services and for software 268 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:31,942 services for basically 269 00:08:31,942 --> 00:08:32,509 ticketing in the arts and 270 00:08:32,509 --> 00:08:34,509 recreation department. 271 00:08:36,179 --> 00:08:36,913 So my first question is does 272 00:08:36,913 --> 00:08:39,515 this is there a separate system 273 00:08:39,515 --> 00:08:42,885 that lesher center ses or will 274 00:08:42,885 --> 00:08:43,753 this be the same system? 275 00:08:43,753 --> 00:08:44,521 Chris farrow arts and rec 276 00:08:44,521 --> 00:08:46,990 director the lesher uses a 277 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:47,857 separate system for ticketing. 278 00:08:47,857 --> 00:08:50,857 >> this is used primarily by 279 00:08:51,628 --> 00:08:52,295 our recreation and parks folks 280 00:08:52,295 --> 00:08:54,695 for facility rentals, picnic 281 00:08:55,832 --> 00:08:56,266 rentals and then program 282 00:08:56,266 --> 00:08:58,266 registrations. 283 00:08:59,335 --> 00:09:00,690 >> okay we it was in MAY that 284 00:09:00,690 --> 00:09:02,873 when we approved the first year 285 00:09:02,873 --> 00:09:03,674 of the agreement so this is now 286 00:09:03,674 --> 00:09:06,674 approving five years of the 287 00:09:08,378 --> 00:09:09,412 agreement actually for six. 288 00:09:09,412 --> 00:09:11,681 This is a replacement of the 289 00:09:11,681 --> 00:09:12,649 previous action. 290 00:09:12,649 --> 00:09:15,418 >> there was a staff error. 291 00:09:15,418 --> 00:09:18,418 So previously what was approved 292 00:09:20,190 --> 00:09:20,858 was the implementing fee, the 293 00:09:20,858 --> 00:09:22,858 technical account management 294 00:09:23,193 --> 00:09:23,427 fee and the annual subscription 295 00:09:23,427 --> 00:09:25,427 . 296 00:09:26,931 --> 00:09:29,931 >> so the 582 674 which on page 297 00:09:30,330 --> 00:09:30,834 two if you look at that table 298 00:09:30,834 --> 00:09:33,403 what was included in the 299 00:09:33,403 --> 00:09:36,403 original ask was columns one, 300 00:09:37,307 --> 00:09:38,241 two and four after the approval 301 00:09:38,241 --> 00:09:41,712 staff as we are moving forward 302 00:09:41,712 --> 00:09:42,546 with an active not realize that 303 00:09:42,546 --> 00:09:45,749 we take in transaction fees and 304 00:09:45,749 --> 00:09:46,617 it's basically a pass through. 305 00:09:46,617 --> 00:09:49,617 So we're charging those using 306 00:09:49,754 --> 00:09:50,454 the system a transaction ee 307 00:09:50,454 --> 00:09:53,454 and then we're paying that 308 00:09:53,757 --> 00:09:54,758 transaction fee back out. 309 00:09:54,758 --> 00:09:58,295 So we did not include that in 310 00:09:58,295 --> 00:09:58,962 the original ask and we need to 311 00:09:58,962 --> 00:10:02,500 because it is both a revenue 312 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:03,234 and an expense to us and even 313 00:10:03,234 --> 00:10:05,136 though it's a net zero we still 314 00:10:05,136 --> 00:10:05,669 need council authority for 315 00:10:05,669 --> 00:10:07,669 those funds. 316 00:10:09,406 --> 00:10:09,974 So we recalculated the amount 317 00:10:09,974 --> 00:10:12,374 based on including the 318 00:10:12,810 --> 00:10:13,711 transaction fees. 319 00:10:13,711 --> 00:10:16,547 And since we were coming back 320 00:10:16,547 --> 00:10:17,448 to council we also decided to 321 00:10:17,448 --> 00:10:17,849 add some hardware just in case 322 00:10:17,849 --> 00:10:19,849 we need it. 323 00:10:20,785 --> 00:10:21,485 As of right now we've been told 324 00:10:21,485 --> 00:10:24,589 by the active net that our 325 00:10:24,589 --> 00:10:26,989 current hardware the things 326 00:10:27,991 --> 00:10:29,193 that we use to to scan for 327 00:10:29,193 --> 00:10:32,663 example or to swipe will work 328 00:10:32,663 --> 00:10:33,498 with the new system. 329 00:10:33,498 --> 00:10:33,898 >> so that's why we hadn't 330 00:10:33,898 --> 00:10:35,898 included it. 331 00:10:36,300 --> 00:10:37,340 But since we were coming back 332 00:10:37,340 --> 00:10:37,669 to council anyways we thought 333 00:10:37,669 --> 00:10:40,104 it's probably in our best 334 00:10:40,104 --> 00:10:40,805 interest to include some 335 00:10:40,805 --> 00:10:43,675 hardware costs just in case we 336 00:10:43,675 --> 00:10:44,308 run into a place where we need 337 00:10:44,308 --> 00:10:47,308 to dish to replace some 338 00:10:47,678 --> 00:10:48,790 hardware to be to work with the 339 00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:48,679 new system. 340 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,150 So we did that as well. 341 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:54,615 So the total amount when you 342 00:10:56,621 --> 00:10:57,221 include those transaction fees 343 00:10:57,221 --> 00:10:58,220 is 1,798,358. 344 00:10:58,220 --> 00:11:00,257 >> but I want to note that all 345 00:11:00,257 --> 00:11:00,658 of those transaction fees will 346 00:11:00,658 --> 00:11:02,658 net out. 347 00:11:04,620 --> 00:11:04,862 we just need to ask for council 348 00:11:04,862 --> 00:11:05,529 approval in order to pay the 349 00:11:05,529 --> 00:11:08,529 expenditures but we will see 350 00:11:08,833 --> 00:11:09,134 that on the revenue ide as 351 00:11:09,134 --> 00:11:09,834 well. 352 00:11:09,834 --> 00:11:12,970 > so let me clarify make sure 353 00:11:12,970 --> 00:11:15,370 I understand trance absolutely 354 00:11:15,539 --> 00:11:16,374 fee seems to be the fee like 355 00:11:16,374 --> 00:11:19,677 the bank charge for using a 356 00:11:19,677 --> 00:11:20,478 credit card correct card so 357 00:11:20,478 --> 00:11:23,478 these are standard fees and 358 00:11:23,581 --> 00:11:23,915 this is not a guaranteed 359 00:11:23,915 --> 00:11:24,850 amount. 360 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:27,685 This is just an estimate based 361 00:11:27,685 --> 00:11:31,550 on certain levels of revenue, a 362 00:11:31,550 --> 00:11:31,923 certain number of transactions 363 00:11:31,923 --> 00:11:32,624 that we've experienced in the 364 00:11:32,624 --> 00:11:32,891 past and then projecting out. 365 00:11:32,891 --> 00:11:34,891 Yes. 366 00:11:35,627 --> 00:11:38,997 And does this system allow us 367 00:11:38,997 --> 00:11:39,830 to we recently at the last 368 00:11:39,830 --> 00:11:42,830 meeting approved our user fees 369 00:11:45,937 --> 00:11:46,738 that included a resident 370 00:11:46,738 --> 00:11:48,738 benefit payment discount 371 00:11:50,542 --> 00:11:51,750 discount is does this system 372 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:53,545 allow us to do this? 373 00:11:53,545 --> 00:11:54,279 It does great. 374 00:11:54,279 --> 00:11:54,646 Thank you, mayor. 375 00:11:54,646 --> 00:11:56,646 Thank you. 376 00:11:57,682 --> 00:11:58,116 Do you have any other questions 377 00:11:58,116 --> 00:11:58,383 on this item? 378 00:11:58,383 --> 00:12:00,383 No. 379 00:12:00,451 --> 00:12:01,319 Okay. 380 00:12:01,319 --> 00:12:03,655 And councilmember silva, would 381 00:12:03,655 --> 00:12:04,689 you like to make a motion and 382 00:12:04,689 --> 00:12:07,992 move to approve item two g in 383 00:12:07,992 --> 00:12:08,793 the consent calendar which is 384 00:12:08,793 --> 00:12:11,763 the authorization of the city 385 00:12:11,763 --> 00:12:12,130 manager for a five year 386 00:12:12,130 --> 00:12:12,864 agreement? 387 00:12:12,864 --> 00:12:14,766 We're about to network four for 388 00:12:14,766 --> 00:12:15,600 recreation management software 389 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,170 services in an amount not to 390 00:12:19,170 --> 00:12:19,504 exceed just about $81.8 391 00:12:19,504 --> 00:12:21,504 million. 392 00:12:22,874 --> 00:12:23,475 Second, we have a motion to 393 00:12:23,475 --> 00:12:25,875 second and a third. 394 00:12:27,378 --> 00:12:28,130 >> councilmember silva I 395 00:12:28,130 --> 00:12:28,680 councilmember darling I 396 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:30,782 councilmember devinney to my 397 00:12:30,782 --> 00:12:33,782 right mayor pro tem francois 398 00:12:34,753 --> 00:12:35,387 mayor well I ight so next on 399 00:12:35,387 --> 00:12:37,622 the agenda is public 400 00:12:37,622 --> 00:12:38,657 communications. 401 00:12:38,657 --> 00:12:39,357 This portion of the meeting is 402 00:12:39,357 --> 00:12:41,326 reserved for comments on items 403 00:12:41,326 --> 00:12:42,194 not on the agenda. 404 00:12:42,194 --> 00:12:42,727 All remarks should be addressed 405 00:12:42,727 --> 00:12:43,395 to the city council. 406 00:12:43,395 --> 00:12:45,497 Please do not use profanity 407 00:12:45,497 --> 00:12:46,432 during your comments. 408 00:12:46,432 --> 00:12:47,132 Under the brown act the council 409 00:12:47,132 --> 00:12:49,435 cannot act on items raised in 410 00:12:49,435 --> 00:12:50,136 public communication but MAY 411 00:12:50,136 --> 00:12:52,536 respond briefly to statements 412 00:12:53,380 --> 00:12:53,873 made or questions posed request 413 00:12:53,873 --> 00:12:54,473 clarification or for the item 414 00:12:54,473 --> 00:12:56,873 to staff consistent with 415 00:12:57,476 --> 00:12:58,143 section 9.5 the city council 416 00:12:58,143 --> 00:13:00,543 handbook 30 minutes will be 417 00:13:00,980 --> 00:13:01,714 allocated at this time for 418 00:13:01,714 --> 00:13:02,381 public communications for items 419 00:13:02,381 --> 00:13:04,750 not on the agenda additional 420 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:05,417 time for public communications 421 00:13:05,417 --> 00:13:06,118 for items not on the agenda 422 00:13:06,118 --> 00:13:08,454 will be provided at the end of 423 00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:09,188 the meeting if necessary. 424 00:13:09,188 --> 00:13:11,588 Written comments submitted have 425 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:12,858 been posted to the city's 426 00:13:12,858 --> 00:13:13,525 website for public review and 427 00:13:13,525 --> 00:13:14,930 are included in the meeting 428 00:13:14,930 --> 00:13:16,828 record but will not be 429 00:13:16,828 --> 00:13:18,730 separately read into the record 430 00:13:18,730 --> 00:13:19,732 at this time I'll note that the 431 00:13:19,732 --> 00:13:22,635 time is 614 and we'll take 432 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:23,502 public comments and items on 433 00:13:23,502 --> 00:13:24,203 the agenda until approximately 434 00:13:24,203 --> 00:13:26,939 644 and then the remainder of 435 00:13:26,939 --> 00:13:27,673 any such comments at the end of 436 00:13:27,673 --> 00:13:30,900 the open session portion of the 437 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:30,810 meeting please use the raise 438 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:31,611 hand feature or press star 90 439 00:13:31,611 --> 00:13:33,679 for calling in if you'd like to 440 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,379 make a remote public comment 441 00:13:34,379 --> 00:13:37,683 and this time if anybody would 442 00:13:37,683 --> 00:13:37,844 like to make any in-person 443 00:13:37,844 --> 00:13:38,250 - 444 00:13:38,250 --> 00:13:40,650 comments and please come 445 00:13:41,186 --> 00:13:41,587 forward fill out a speaker card 446 00:13:41,587 --> 00:13:42,488 . 447 00:13:42,488 --> 00:13:45,724 i see MRS. Warren has one in 448 00:13:45,724 --> 00:13:46,580 her hand and you'll have two 449 00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:46,725 minutes. 450 00:13:46,725 --> 00:13:49,128 Good evening jan warren from 451 00:13:49,128 --> 00:13:50,162 the woodlands. 452 00:13:50,162 --> 00:13:53,162 It's maybe technically not a 453 00:13:53,232 --> 00:13:56,232 city council question but maybe 454 00:13:57,303 --> 00:13:58,300 you can direct me a month or 455 00:13:58,300 --> 00:13:58,737 two ago on next door or 456 00:13:58,737 --> 00:14:01,541 somebody was talking about the 457 00:14:01,541 --> 00:14:02,275 we get a lot of action on 458 00:14:02,275 --> 00:14:04,477 ignacio and I live off of oak 459 00:14:04,477 --> 00:14:05,311 grove and and there was a car 460 00:14:05,311 --> 00:14:09,215 that was n fire and it was 461 00:14:09,215 --> 00:14:12,918 between an our city and like on 462 00:14:12,918 --> 00:14:13,620 the line almost the way they 463 00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:14,354 talked about it our city and 464 00:14:14,354 --> 00:14:17,190 concord and of course we're a 465 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:19,590 consol predated fire department 466 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,300 and so they were you know too 467 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:24,930 stressed the same like you know 468 00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:25,631 no no walnut creek people are 469 00:14:25,631 --> 00:14:28,401 coming out or something and so 470 00:14:28,401 --> 00:14:29,235 I was just curious is there a 471 00:14:29,235 --> 00:14:32,405 contact for the con fire or 472 00:14:32,405 --> 00:14:33,600 whatever it's called now to ask 473 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,600 how that's done you know 474 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:37,744 somebody calls in and I guess 475 00:14:37,744 --> 00:14:40,246 it's like a dispatch that would 476 00:14:40,246 --> 00:14:40,980 go and say hey, so but would 477 00:14:40,980 --> 00:14:43,980 they pull someone possibly from 478 00:14:44,784 --> 00:14:45,484 our station and from a station 479 00:14:45,484 --> 00:14:46,520 in concord or do you have any 480 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,921 idea who I could talk? 481 00:14:47,921 --> 00:14:48,621 Well, con fire me obviously you 482 00:14:48,621 --> 00:14:49,288 would call 911 if you saw that 483 00:14:49,288 --> 00:14:51,224 and they would decide where 484 00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:52,292 it's coming from. 485 00:14:52,292 --> 00:14:53,590 What I would suggest is we have 486 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:56,620 our chief of police in the back 487 00:14:56,620 --> 00:14:56,729 of the room and he'd be happy 488 00:14:56,729 --> 00:15:00,166 to talk with you about that. 489 00:15:00,166 --> 00:15:00,833 But if anybody sees a car on 490 00:15:00,833 --> 00:15:03,436 fire on any road that you're 491 00:15:03,436 --> 00:15:04,137 on, call 911 and let dispatch 492 00:15:04,137 --> 00:15:04,438 figure out who's going to get 493 00:15:04,438 --> 00:15:06,438 there. 494 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:08,740 Yeah. 495 00:15:08,740 --> 00:15:11,377 >> thanks jan kevin, if I if I 496 00:15:11,377 --> 00:15:12,212 could add the con fire is a 497 00:15:12,212 --> 00:15:12,812 county jan well I just can let 498 00:15:12,812 --> 00:15:14,470 you know con fire too. 499 00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:14,680 That's a county district so 500 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,800 they're not they're not 501 00:15:18,151 --> 00:15:18,785 responding ased on, you know, 502 00:15:18,785 --> 00:15:21,185 city boundaries and when 503 00:15:21,722 --> 00:15:22,555 there's a fire there's often 504 00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:25,425 more than one unit deployed so 505 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,425 they'll someone's responding 506 00:15:29,629 --> 00:15:30,430 and and they're not they're not 507 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:33,334 concerned about the the city 508 00:15:33,334 --> 00:15:34,267 lines yeah I can I can I'm 509 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:36,637 aware of that oh understanding 510 00:15:36,637 --> 00:15:37,237 the people's position oh okay 511 00:15:37,237 --> 00:15:38,271 thank thank ou. 512 00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:40,240 Jan do you have any other any 513 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,240 other public comment here in 514 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:44,545 the chamber. 515 00:15:44,545 --> 00:15:44,945 >> right. 516 00:15:44,945 --> 00:15:45,646 Seeing none. 517 00:15:45,646 --> 00:15:48,182 Do we have anybody on line? 518 00:15:48,182 --> 00:15:48,482 No one on line and nobody on 519 00:15:48,482 --> 00:15:50,384 line. 520 00:15:50,384 --> 00:15:51,619 So we will close public comment 521 00:15:51,619 --> 00:15:55,880 and we will move to council 522 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:55,689 member and staff announcements 523 00:15:55,689 --> 00:15:58,890 reports and activities r 524 00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:02,359 requests the city attorney do 525 00:16:02,530 --> 00:16:03,197 we have any announcements? 526 00:16:03,197 --> 00:16:03,631 >> no closed session 527 00:16:03,631 --> 00:16:04,231 announcements. 528 00:16:04,231 --> 00:16:06,631 City manager any report? 529 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:07,434 Yeah I do have one I want to 530 00:16:07,434 --> 00:16:08,135 update this evening. 531 00:16:08,135 --> 00:16:11,238 Mayor dan buckshi sure I city 532 00:16:11,238 --> 00:16:11,906 manager as many of you are I'm 533 00:16:11,906 --> 00:16:14,308 sure are aware yesterday was 534 00:16:14,308 --> 00:16:15,800 the last day of the legislative 535 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,711 session in sacramento for the 536 00:16:17,711 --> 00:16:18,645 state government. 537 00:16:18,645 --> 00:16:21,645 This would be the 2026 session 538 00:16:21,916 --> 00:16:22,416 and is the the second year of a 539 00:16:22,416 --> 00:16:24,416 two year session. 540 00:16:25,385 --> 00:16:26,120 I just thought I would give a 541 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,689 very high overview just to give 542 00:16:28,689 --> 00:16:29,156 a ense of scale in terms of 543 00:16:29,156 --> 00:16:29,690 what's occurred. 544 00:16:29,690 --> 00:16:32,900 So in 2026 the state 545 00:16:35,262 --> 00:16:35,562 legislature introduced 846 546 00:16:35,562 --> 00:16:37,562 bills. 547 00:16:38,833 --> 00:16:39,233 so think 846 new laws that were 548 00:16:39,233 --> 00:16:41,233 introduced. 549 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:43,700 Of those 1103 were approved by 550 00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:45,470 the legislature and move 551 00:16:45,606 --> 00:16:47,606 through. 552 00:16:49,877 --> 00:16:50,911 So more than you know, roughly 553 00:16:50,911 --> 00:16:52,980 half or a little more than that 554 00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:56,580 of that 177 have been in signed 555 00:16:56,684 --> 00:16:57,418 into law and 926 emain with 556 00:16:57,418 --> 00:17:01,180 the governor for his review and 557 00:17:02,723 --> 00:17:03,524 he has until AUGUST 30th AUGUST 558 00:17:03,524 --> 00:17:06,528 30th to take action on those 559 00:17:06,528 --> 00:17:06,828 bills or I'm sorry SEPTEMBER 560 00:17:06,828 --> 00:17:07,161 30th. 561 00:17:07,161 --> 00:17:07,528 >> yeah. 562 00:17:07,528 --> 00:17:08,162 Thank you. 563 00:17:08,162 --> 00:17:09,697 It would be hard to do, 564 00:17:09,697 --> 00:17:10,665 wouldn't it? 565 00:17:10,665 --> 00:17:11,332 And I would just highlight 566 00:17:11,332 --> 00:17:14,340 there are several bills that 567 00:17:14,340 --> 00:17:14,669 are quite impactful to walnut 568 00:17:14,669 --> 00:17:17,572 creek and to other cities. 569 00:17:17,572 --> 00:17:18,506 I won't go into those details 570 00:17:18,506 --> 00:17:19,240 but I do anticipate some 571 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,240 budgetary pressures as a result 572 00:17:22,276 --> 00:17:22,944 of these bills if they are 573 00:17:22,944 --> 00:17:25,344 passed and other regulatory 574 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:26,314 changes that we will and 575 00:17:26,314 --> 00:17:26,748 challenges that we will be 576 00:17:26,748 --> 00:17:28,748 dealing with. 577 00:17:29,617 --> 00:17:30,351 Our intention is to ave our 578 00:17:30,351 --> 00:17:32,751 consultant from townsend public 579 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:33,488 affairs provide an update 580 00:17:33,488 --> 00:17:36,488 likely in OCTOBER with more 581 00:17:37,225 --> 00:17:37,926 details about those bills once 582 00:17:37,926 --> 00:17:40,228 we know what's actually signed 583 00:17:40,228 --> 00:17:41,620 or vetoed by the governor. 584 00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:43,620 >> thank you, jim. 585 00:17:44,332 --> 00:17:46,868 And now we have city council 586 00:17:46,868 --> 00:17:47,435 member reports on ab one two, 587 00:17:47,435 --> 00:17:47,936 three four activities. 588 00:17:47,936 --> 00:17:49,936 Let's start over. 589 00:17:50,238 --> 00:17:51,390 Councilmember silva how did I 590 00:17:51,390 --> 00:17:51,539 know you were going to turn and 591 00:17:51,539 --> 00:17:53,608 look at me first? 592 00:17:53,608 --> 00:17:57,208 Thank you mayor so two items 593 00:17:57,312 --> 00:17:57,946 that I wanted to spend a little 594 00:17:57,946 --> 00:18:00,816 bit of time on the diablo 595 00:18:00,816 --> 00:18:01,483 regional arts association which 596 00:18:01,483 --> 00:18:02,217 is our partner in our 597 00:18:02,217 --> 00:18:04,617 fundraising partner and program 598 00:18:05,153 --> 00:18:05,820 support partner for the lecture 599 00:18:05,820 --> 00:18:08,557 center of the arts held its 600 00:18:08,557 --> 00:18:08,957 regular board meeting yesterday 601 00:18:08,957 --> 00:18:09,591 . 602 00:18:09,591 --> 00:18:12,591 It's one month until on 603 00:18:12,793 --> 00:18:13,595 broadway which is OCTOBER third 604 00:18:13,595 --> 00:18:14,263 which is the annual fundraiser 605 00:18:14,263 --> 00:18:17,232 where they focus on raising 606 00:18:17,232 --> 00:18:20,232 funds to support arts access 607 00:18:20,602 --> 00:18:21,469 programs and other special 608 00:18:21,469 --> 00:18:22,137 programs at the leisure center 609 00:18:22,137 --> 00:18:24,940 and the arts access program 610 00:18:24,940 --> 00:18:27,340 really brings children from 611 00:18:28,576 --> 00:18:29,144 underserved local schools into 612 00:18:29,144 --> 00:18:31,544 the lecture center to 613 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,810 experience some of their very 614 00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:35,481 first theater performances such 615 00:18:39,821 --> 00:18:43,421 as a christmas carol who are 616 00:18:43,792 --> 00:18:44,793 discussion focused on the 617 00:18:44,793 --> 00:18:48,263 upcoming event and the year and 618 00:18:48,263 --> 00:18:48,964 what it's sold out. 619 00:18:48,964 --> 00:18:51,800 But you should go online to 620 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,601 daria talk to see if you might 621 00:18:52,601 --> 00:18:54,903 get a single ticket if it's 622 00:18:54,903 --> 00:18:55,671 available. 623 00:18:55,671 --> 00:18:58,710 They also described that 624 00:19:00,643 --> 00:19:03,430 martinez refining company is 625 00:19:04,713 --> 00:19:05,514 basically launched a partner 626 00:19:05,514 --> 00:19:07,914 program with the local 627 00:19:09,484 --> 00:19:11,884 elementary school in martinez 628 00:19:12,655 --> 00:19:16,255 and with the dry age provide 629 00:19:16,525 --> 00:19:17,393 afterschool enrichment programs 630 00:19:17,393 --> 00:19:20,393 that are choral about choruses 631 00:19:20,830 --> 00:19:21,631 and singing and it is for 632 00:19:21,631 --> 00:19:24,466 grades k through five and they 633 00:19:24,466 --> 00:19:25,400 have 60 children signed up for 634 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,400 it and this basically reflects 635 00:19:28,971 --> 00:19:29,839 the value of the partnership 636 00:19:29,839 --> 00:19:32,775 that we have with d-r, the 637 00:19:32,775 --> 00:19:33,976 bedford gallery kaleidoscope 638 00:19:33,976 --> 00:19:35,644 which is this current show will 639 00:19:35,644 --> 00:19:38,440 close on SEPTEMBER 13th. 640 00:19:39,115 --> 00:19:39,348 Kaleidoscope is a play on words 641 00:19:39,348 --> 00:19:40,149 . 642 00:19:40,149 --> 00:19:43,749 It's all sorts of images that 643 00:19:44,387 --> 00:19:46,822 are it's call of kaleidoscope 644 00:19:46,822 --> 00:19:50,693 has in kelly I just go and then 645 00:19:50,693 --> 00:19:51,460 the new show will open at the 646 00:19:51,460 --> 00:19:54,397 end of the month called 647 00:19:54,397 --> 00:19:57,397 portraits in tufte so textures 648 00:19:58,670 --> 00:19:58,901 and textiles and center reps 649 00:19:58,901 --> 00:19:59,568 opening night for glass 650 00:19:59,568 --> 00:20:02,305 menagerie is next week nd it 651 00:20:02,305 --> 00:20:05,305 should be a great show. 652 00:20:05,708 --> 00:20:06,509 Last week was the AUGUST 653 00:20:06,509 --> 00:20:07,176 meeting of recycle smart which 654 00:20:07,176 --> 00:20:09,913 is the central contra costa 655 00:20:09,913 --> 00:20:11,913 solid waste authority. 656 00:20:13,182 --> 00:20:13,883 We are in the process of 657 00:20:13,883 --> 00:20:14,584 implementation for the new 658 00:20:14,584 --> 00:20:16,984 franchise agreement which will 659 00:20:17,987 --> 00:20:18,687 start next spring and one of 660 00:20:18,687 --> 00:20:21,624 the things we learned the last 661 00:20:21,624 --> 00:20:22,425 week at our meeting and council 662 00:20:22,425 --> 00:20:25,728 member mayor pro tem fran so 663 00:20:25,728 --> 00:20:26,280 I'll sort of joins me on that 664 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:26,763 board. 665 00:20:26,763 --> 00:20:29,198 One of the things we learned is 666 00:20:29,198 --> 00:20:29,832 that there are 68,000 single 667 00:20:29,832 --> 00:20:32,232 family households that we 668 00:20:32,736 --> 00:20:35,736 collect trash and recycling and 669 00:20:36,439 --> 00:20:37,106 organics waste from in orinda, 670 00:20:37,106 --> 00:20:39,106 morocco, lafayette, danville 671 00:20:40,210 --> 00:20:40,843 walnut creek and the 672 00:20:40,843 --> 00:20:42,843 unincorporated areas that 673 00:20:44,214 --> 00:20:47,214 surround s and about 30% of 674 00:20:47,884 --> 00:20:48,718 those single family homes will 675 00:20:48,718 --> 00:20:51,887 be having their day of pickup 676 00:20:51,887 --> 00:20:52,522 change in MARCH with the new 677 00:20:52,522 --> 00:20:55,522 routes and the new trucks. 678 00:20:55,892 --> 00:20:56,593 So there's a major campaign 679 00:20:56,593 --> 00:20:58,593 communications campaign that's 680 00:20:59,529 --> 00:21:00,363 going to be happening and all 681 00:21:00,363 --> 00:21:03,466 of us that were there said that 682 00:21:03,466 --> 00:21:04,267 our cities will be supportive 683 00:21:04,267 --> 00:21:07,267 of it with our whatever 684 00:21:07,537 --> 00:21:10,537 outreach we have, whether it's 685 00:21:11,407 --> 00:21:11,975 psa is on walnut creek tv, the 686 00:21:11,975 --> 00:21:13,975 nutshell city managers 687 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:15,746 e-newsletter ecause it's going 688 00:21:15,746 --> 00:21:18,448 to come as a shock to people 689 00:21:18,448 --> 00:21:19,149 and there's lots of ways to 690 00:21:19,149 --> 00:21:22,149 communicate but it's also it's 691 00:21:22,786 --> 00:21:23,420 a third of the number of people 692 00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:26,156 the households that we have in 693 00:21:26,156 --> 00:21:27,190 the territory. 694 00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:30,493 Te other thing that's going to 695 00:21:30,493 --> 00:21:31,294 happen so starting NOVEMBER is 696 00:21:31,294 --> 00:21:34,197 one of the concerns that we 697 00:21:34,197 --> 00:21:34,832 have with the landfill the 698 00:21:34,832 --> 00:21:37,832 black card is that people 699 00:21:38,101 --> 00:21:41,101 overstuffed them or they leave 700 00:21:41,805 --> 00:21:42,606 extra trash in a bag next to 701 00:21:42,606 --> 00:21:45,575 the containers and these are a 702 00:21:45,575 --> 00:21:46,276 problem for a number of reason 703 00:21:46,276 --> 00:21:49,312 trash left on the ground is 704 00:21:49,312 --> 00:21:50,147 even if it's bagged can 705 00:21:50,147 --> 00:21:50,781 sometimes end up in the storm 706 00:21:50,781 --> 00:21:53,249 drains and then our public 707 00:21:53,249 --> 00:21:53,983 works people and the clean 708 00:21:53,983 --> 00:21:56,983 water people don't aren't happy 709 00:21:57,254 --> 00:22:00,854 plus it is more likely to 710 00:22:01,558 --> 00:22:02,292 damage the art when they're 711 00:22:02,292 --> 00:22:04,361 tipping it and causing trash to 712 00:22:04,361 --> 00:22:05,196 fall on the streets. 713 00:22:05,196 --> 00:22:07,596 Republic service currently in 714 00:22:08,465 --> 00:22:09,466 their ontract is allowed to 715 00:22:09,466 --> 00:22:12,466 charge $10 each time there's an 716 00:22:12,769 --> 00:22:13,404 overage like that and now they 717 00:22:13,404 --> 00:22:16,720 have the technology on the 718 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:16,674 trucks to be able to know that 719 00:22:16,674 --> 00:22:19,740 every address that has 720 00:22:20,878 --> 00:22:21,612 overstuffed that means the lids 721 00:22:21,612 --> 00:22:24,120 not shutting tight, overstuffed 722 00:22:25,316 --> 00:22:26,117 or left with a bag at the side. 723 00:22:26,117 --> 00:22:28,819 So they're also going to be 724 00:22:28,819 --> 00:22:29,520 reaching out and letting us all 725 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,955 the customers know that these 726 00:22:31,955 --> 00:22:32,623 charges will start and it's 727 00:22:32,623 --> 00:22:35,230 really important to realize 728 00:22:35,826 --> 00:22:36,527 that if you have it's every 729 00:22:36,527 --> 00:22:39,527 once in a while it's 730 00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:40,665 understandable. 731 00:22:40,665 --> 00:22:41,332 But if it's a regular 732 00:22:41,332 --> 00:22:41,999 occurrence, what you really 733 00:22:41,999 --> 00:22:44,435 need to do is rightsize your 734 00:22:44,435 --> 00:22:47,338 cart and pay for he cart that 735 00:22:47,338 --> 00:22:48,338 you need which if it's most 736 00:22:48,338 --> 00:22:50,441 people are at a 32 gallon cart 737 00:22:50,441 --> 00:22:52,809 and if you need a 64 gallon 738 00:22:52,809 --> 00:22:53,610 cart then you should get a 64 739 00:22:53,610 --> 00:22:56,213 gallon cart and you won't be 740 00:22:56,213 --> 00:22:56,447 having overage overage charges 741 00:22:56,447 --> 00:22:57,281 . 742 00:22:57,281 --> 00:23:00,881 And mayor pro tem, are you 743 00:23:01,152 --> 00:23:02,253 going to report on the schools 744 00:23:02,253 --> 00:23:04,555 or do you want me to do can 745 00:23:04,555 --> 00:23:05,289 okay I'll let I'll let the 746 00:23:05,289 --> 00:23:05,990 mayor pro tem do that and there 747 00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:08,325 have been a lot of activities 748 00:23:08,325 --> 00:23:08,892 and events and more to follow 749 00:23:08,892 --> 00:23:09,193 in the coming months. 750 00:23:09,193 --> 00:23:11,193 Great. 751 00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:13,697 Thank you very much. 752 00:23:13,697 --> 00:23:14,365 >> well actually let's go to 753 00:23:14,365 --> 00:23:15,660 mayor pro tem so we can just 754 00:23:15,660 --> 00:23:16,434 going to be of a follow up 755 00:23:16,434 --> 00:23:17,234 question on the the over stuff. 756 00:23:17,234 --> 00:23:20,234 >> I'm just curious that is 757 00:23:20,371 --> 00:23:21,720 this all the containers were 758 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,750 they just just the black just 759 00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:24,975 the black okay. 760 00:23:24,975 --> 00:23:25,610 So linking the green waste in 761 00:23:25,610 --> 00:23:26,311 my mind I've always got a 762 00:23:26,311 --> 00:23:27,978 branch that's sticking out of 763 00:23:27,978 --> 00:23:28,412 the top and that's not so much 764 00:23:28,412 --> 00:23:30,412 of a problem. 765 00:23:30,715 --> 00:23:31,516 It's really that the black 766 00:23:31,516 --> 00:23:34,516 waste where they find the 767 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:35,920 greatest level of it and one of 768 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,230 our colleagues on the on the 769 00:23:39,230 --> 00:23:39,657 board suggested you make 770 00:23:39,657 --> 00:23:40,324 friends with your neighbor 771 00:23:40,324 --> 00:23:43,270 because maybe what you do is 772 00:23:43,270 --> 00:23:43,694 just take your bag down to your 773 00:23:43,694 --> 00:23:44,128 neighbors pin thank you for 774 00:23:44,128 --> 00:23:46,128 clarification. 775 00:23:46,431 --> 00:23:47,365 Yeah. 776 00:23:47,365 --> 00:23:50,368 Thank you mayor so I'll start 777 00:23:50,368 --> 00:23:51,690 with the recycle smart and 778 00:23:51,690 --> 00:23:53,469 councilmember silva, I just 779 00:23:54,639 --> 00:23:55,339 want to give a shout out to our 780 00:23:55,339 --> 00:23:58,339 great staff at that authority 781 00:23:58,476 --> 00:24:01,979 who not only put us in a good 782 00:24:01,979 --> 00:24:02,580 position to have new contracts 783 00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:04,980 for collection and post 784 00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:08,550 collection services, en year 785 00:24:09,153 --> 00:24:09,887 contracts two years in advance 786 00:24:09,887 --> 00:24:12,857 of the date that we needed them 787 00:24:12,857 --> 00:24:13,458 which is next MARCH but also 788 00:24:13,458 --> 00:24:15,458 now have prepared 789 00:24:16,627 --> 00:24:17,328 implementation plans, pretty 790 00:24:17,328 --> 00:24:19,328 detailed implementation plans 791 00:24:21,232 --> 00:24:21,899 and worked closely with all the 792 00:24:21,899 --> 00:24:23,899 providers including republic 793 00:24:25,336 --> 00:24:26,137 and mdr to make sure that we're 794 00:24:26,137 --> 00:24:29,241 going to hit the ground running 795 00:24:29,241 --> 00:24:32,210 next year which I have every 796 00:24:32,210 --> 00:24:33,444 confidence that we will. 797 00:24:33,444 --> 00:24:36,214 >> we did get our annual report 798 00:24:36,214 --> 00:24:39,214 school progress report and I'm 799 00:24:40,118 --> 00:24:40,918 pleased to announce that 800 00:24:40,918 --> 00:24:43,318 several walnut creek elementary 801 00:24:44,623 --> 00:24:45,324 schools as well as middle 802 00:24:45,324 --> 00:24:47,724 schools received waste buster 803 00:24:48,694 --> 00:24:51,290 awards which means they were 804 00:24:51,290 --> 00:24:53,429 successful in diverting 75% of 805 00:24:55,567 --> 00:24:55,967 waste from the black can or the 806 00:24:55,967 --> 00:24:57,967 garbage can. 807 00:24:58,337 --> 00:24:58,704 It went to organics or 808 00:24:58,704 --> 00:24:59,538 recycling. 809 00:24:59,538 --> 00:25:02,841 So these kids are getting the 810 00:25:02,841 --> 00:25:03,642 message and doing a great job 811 00:25:03,642 --> 00:25:05,643 and we all need to follow their 812 00:25:05,643 --> 00:25:06,612 lead. 813 00:25:06,612 --> 00:25:09,612 It was also interesting that 814 00:25:09,648 --> 00:25:12,117 los alamos high chool kind of 815 00:25:12,117 --> 00:25:13,118 clocked in at 71%. 816 00:25:13,118 --> 00:25:16,422 High schools are kind of the 817 00:25:16,422 --> 00:25:17,550 hardest demographic to get them 818 00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:19,455 to change their behavior. 819 00:25:20,125 --> 00:25:21,160 As many parents will know. 820 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,663 And that's true when it comes 821 00:25:24,663 --> 00:25:25,630 to diverting trash from the 822 00:25:25,630 --> 00:25:25,764 black hand. 823 00:25:25,764 --> 00:25:28,000 But los alamos is doing a good 824 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,270 job and I think north gate's 825 00:25:31,270 --> 00:25:32,370 numbers were up there as well. 826 00:25:32,370 --> 00:25:34,437 So that's recycle smart. 827 00:25:35,107 --> 00:25:36,108 I'm going to let the mayor 828 00:25:36,108 --> 00:25:39,108 mostly report on the partner 829 00:25:40,312 --> 00:25:40,946 city event with the youth 830 00:25:40,946 --> 00:25:43,346 delegation from kita city, 831 00:25:44,316 --> 00:25:45,217 japan. 832 00:25:45,217 --> 00:25:45,551 But thank you for including me 833 00:25:45,551 --> 00:25:47,551 in that. 834 00:25:48,521 --> 00:25:49,322 That was a really fun event at 835 00:25:49,322 --> 00:25:51,557 the leisure I know it was a 836 00:25:51,557 --> 00:25:52,658 week long event and there were 837 00:25:52,658 --> 00:25:55,261 a lot of behind the scene tours 838 00:25:55,261 --> 00:25:55,961 with staff but we I 839 00:25:55,961 --> 00:25:58,361 participated in the reception 840 00:25:59,565 --> 00:26:03,165 at the lesher rotunda where it 841 00:26:03,402 --> 00:26:06,271 was meaningful to hear from the 842 00:26:06,271 --> 00:26:08,671 students 15 students from kita 843 00:26:09,410 --> 00:26:09,775 city who had prepared a really 844 00:26:09,775 --> 00:26:12,175 beautiful powerpoint and spoke 845 00:26:13,646 --> 00:26:14,280 very good english in terms of 846 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,680 and presenting their city. 847 00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:17,750 so look forward to welcoming 848 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:20,750 that delegation next year you 849 00:26:20,853 --> 00:26:22,853 all will. 850 00:26:24,157 --> 00:26:25,570 Had I was able to step in for 851 00:26:25,570 --> 00:26:28,657 the mayor for an eagle scout 852 00:26:28,961 --> 00:26:32,565 court of honor a week or so ago 853 00:26:32,565 --> 00:26:36,436 and so really are just a a 854 00:26:36,436 --> 00:26:36,736 delight to to participate in 855 00:26:36,736 --> 00:26:37,436 those. 856 00:26:37,436 --> 00:26:40,173 It's quite an honor to see the 857 00:26:40,173 --> 00:26:41,700 years of accomplishment that 858 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:44,607 have led to this pinnacle and 859 00:26:44,677 --> 00:26:45,478 the the adult leaders who are 860 00:26:45,478 --> 00:26:49,780 there every step of the way 861 00:26:49,810 --> 00:26:49,549 encouraging these young men on. 862 00:26:49,549 --> 00:26:51,549 Evan oh kinds. 863 00:26:52,585 --> 00:26:54,585 Robert peterson, william 864 00:26:55,654 --> 00:26:58,654 pickett and nathan wong and 865 00:26:58,925 --> 00:26:59,726 their projects ranged from 866 00:26:59,726 --> 00:27:02,126 constructing wooden steps to 867 00:27:03,396 --> 00:27:04,231 help the zookeepers at the 868 00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:07,231 oakland to access the lion 869 00:27:07,366 --> 00:27:10,236 exhibit more safely to creating 870 00:27:10,236 --> 00:27:12,636 windbreaks at contra costa 871 00:27:14,107 --> 00:27:16,507 sustainable farms creating owl 872 00:27:17,477 --> 00:27:18,311 boxes for endangered species at 873 00:27:18,311 --> 00:27:18,945 the lafayette reservoir and a 874 00:27:18,945 --> 00:27:21,345 backpack and school supply 875 00:27:22,820 --> 00:27:22,415 drive for monument crisis 876 00:27:22,415 --> 00:27:24,415 center. 877 00:27:25,618 --> 00:27:26,452 So well done to all of them and 878 00:27:26,452 --> 00:27:29,452 let's see I attended the 879 00:27:29,688 --> 00:27:30,590 rossmore board meeting last 880 00:27:30,590 --> 00:27:33,426 week and was able to give them 881 00:27:33,426 --> 00:27:33,926 an pdate on our JULY and 882 00:27:33,926 --> 00:27:35,926 AUGUST activities. 883 00:27:37,297 --> 00:27:37,930 They were attentive as always 884 00:27:37,930 --> 00:27:39,930 had good questions. 885 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,334 They are interested in 886 00:27:41,334 --> 00:27:43,734 participating in the general 887 00:27:44,504 --> 00:27:45,706 plan update I assured them that 888 00:27:45,706 --> 00:27:49,275 they would be included in an 889 00:27:49,275 --> 00:27:52,790 outreach effort there and they 890 00:27:52,790 --> 00:27:52,979 had some questions about our dv 891 00:27:52,979 --> 00:27:55,882 strategic plan hich I was able 892 00:27:55,882 --> 00:27:59,482 to give them an update on. 893 00:27:59,652 --> 00:28:00,887 Let's see rounding things out. 894 00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:04,458 I was able to step in for the 895 00:28:04,458 --> 00:28:08,610 mayor for a ribbon cutting at a 896 00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:08,862 volunteer esthetics here on 897 00:28:08,862 --> 00:28:11,262 main street beautiful facility 898 00:28:12,866 --> 00:28:15,866 they do specialize in facial 899 00:28:16,336 --> 00:28:17,370 treatments and skin care. 900 00:28:17,370 --> 00:28:20,174 I think I will be back for a 901 00:28:20,174 --> 00:28:21,174 visit sometime soon. 902 00:28:21,174 --> 00:28:23,844 I wanted to congratulate mar 903 00:28:23,844 --> 00:28:24,678 and aisha. 904 00:28:24,678 --> 00:28:27,780 Apparently they have several 905 00:28:27,747 --> 00:28:29,747 their pakistani-americans at 906 00:28:31,418 --> 00:28:32,252 own several skin care type 907 00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:34,652 businesses in pakistan and 908 00:28:35,288 --> 00:28:37,688 other businesses here in 909 00:28:38,658 --> 00:28:39,593 california and this is their 910 00:28:39,593 --> 00:28:40,494 first location in walnut creek. 911 00:28:40,494 --> 00:28:42,696 So I was glad to see them there 912 00:28:42,696 --> 00:28:43,397 and he chamber was there 913 00:28:43,397 --> 00:28:46,700 giving them a warm welcome as 914 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:49,700 well and then finally along 915 00:28:49,970 --> 00:28:50,671 with councilmember silva, I 916 00:28:50,671 --> 00:28:53,671 attended the moonlight on the 917 00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:54,808 mountain event on mount diablo 918 00:28:54,808 --> 00:28:57,808 a fundraiser for save mount 919 00:28:58,912 --> 00:28:59,613 diablo which is up on the 920 00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:02,316 mountain kind of going up the 921 00:29:02,316 --> 00:29:02,716 south gate and it's always a 922 00:29:02,716 --> 00:29:04,716 fun evening. 923 00:29:05,386 --> 00:29:05,686 It's beautiful location, great 924 00:29:05,686 --> 00:29:07,686 food. 925 00:29:08,889 --> 00:29:09,723 It got very cold. 926 00:29:09,723 --> 00:29:12,723 So even with the blankets 927 00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:14,127 people were kind of making a 928 00:29:14,127 --> 00:29:17,127 beeline for the busses while 929 00:29:17,398 --> 00:29:17,765 the live auction was still 930 00:29:17,765 --> 00:29:18,499 going on. 931 00:29:18,499 --> 00:29:21,350 But next year we'll all come 932 00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:21,735 prepared and that's my update. 933 00:29:21,735 --> 00:29:24,671 >> thank you mayor pro tem. 934 00:29:24,671 --> 00:29:25,720 Let's go to councilmember 935 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:25,506 darling. 936 00:29:25,506 --> 00:29:27,506 >> thank you. 937 00:29:29,176 --> 00:29:29,811 Couple of things we all got a 938 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:30,111 chance to I think you were 939 00:29:30,111 --> 00:29:32,111 there. 940 00:29:32,613 --> 00:29:33,314 You were there and I think you 941 00:29:33,314 --> 00:29:36,751 came with a civic crossing and 942 00:29:36,751 --> 00:29:37,418 got a tour of the new 943 00:29:37,418 --> 00:29:37,952 construction there and it's 944 00:29:37,952 --> 00:29:39,952 fascinating because the 945 00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:40,754 building is still inside and 946 00:29:40,754 --> 00:29:43,558 the inspector walked us around 947 00:29:43,558 --> 00:29:44,225 and explained all the different 948 00:29:44,225 --> 00:29:47,161 safety features that go into 949 00:29:47,161 --> 00:29:47,962 these multifamily buildings. 950 00:29:47,962 --> 00:29:50,962 So that was quite fun. 951 00:29:52,990 --> 00:29:52,766 You can tell I have been on 952 00:29:52,766 --> 00:29:53,467 vacation a lot earlier this 953 00:29:53,467 --> 00:29:56,170 year because I have traded my 954 00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:56,804 farmers market and I have been 955 00:29:56,804 --> 00:29:59,273 at the farmer's market two 956 00:29:59,273 --> 00:30:02,644 weeks in a row now which is 957 00:30:02,644 --> 00:30:03,877 always an entertaining time. 958 00:30:03,877 --> 00:30:06,781 We a number of us went to the 959 00:30:06,781 --> 00:30:07,782 chamber of commerce candidate 960 00:30:07,782 --> 00:30:10,151 forum this morning to hear from 961 00:30:10,151 --> 00:30:10,818 our there are two seats open 962 00:30:10,818 --> 00:30:13,588 and two people running so we 963 00:30:13,588 --> 00:30:16,588 had to hear from them. 964 00:30:17,258 --> 00:30:17,858 Other chamber news their 100 965 00:30:17,858 --> 00:30:20,258 year celebration will be 966 00:30:21,362 --> 00:30:24,362 OCTOBER 29th at kelly craft. 967 00:30:25,330 --> 00:30:28,633 So beer drinkers unite and head 968 00:30:28,803 --> 00:30:29,537 out to that angela ashley and 969 00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:32,537 her husband opened their house 970 00:30:32,540 --> 00:30:33,410 to a reception for the new 971 00:30:33,410 --> 00:30:33,742 chamber ceo. 972 00:30:33,742 --> 00:30:34,776 So that was really fun. 973 00:30:34,776 --> 00:30:36,177 I think most of us made it to 974 00:30:36,177 --> 00:30:37,179 that. 975 00:30:37,179 --> 00:30:40,179 >> the biggest things going on 976 00:30:40,515 --> 00:30:40,916 right now for me really are the 977 00:30:40,916 --> 00:30:42,916 emcee world. 978 00:30:43,818 --> 00:30:44,685 At our last meeting we walked 979 00:30:44,685 --> 00:30:47,622 through you know we'd had an ad 980 00:30:47,622 --> 00:30:48,456 hoc group working on the 981 00:30:48,456 --> 00:30:51,456 response to the marin civil 982 00:30:52,127 --> 00:30:52,861 grand jury and we have a draft 983 00:30:52,861 --> 00:30:56,164 that was approved at the last 984 00:30:56,164 --> 00:30:56,764 meeting that draft is being 985 00:30:56,764 --> 00:30:59,164 finalized for the chair 986 00:30:59,467 --> 00:31:00,568 signature and I should be able 987 00:31:00,568 --> 00:31:03,271 to distribute a copy of that to 988 00:31:03,271 --> 00:31:06,141 folks here in the city. 989 00:31:06,141 --> 00:31:07,800 But basically we went through 990 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,178 each one of the grand juries 991 00:31:10,178 --> 00:31:10,812 discussion items and either 992 00:31:10,812 --> 00:31:12,812 agreed partially disagree, 993 00:31:14,749 --> 00:31:15,350 discuss you know, did a bunch 994 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:17,685 of different things but 995 00:31:17,685 --> 00:31:18,486 basically we talked through in 996 00:31:18,486 --> 00:31:19,880 that report the things that 997 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,890 we're doing to make the 998 00:31:21,890 --> 00:31:22,924 operations at mercy work better 999 00:31:22,924 --> 00:31:25,661 and that will be what we are 1000 00:31:25,661 --> 00:31:28,563 doing between now and the end 1001 00:31:28,563 --> 00:31:29,597 of the year. 1002 00:31:29,597 --> 00:31:29,762 The next board meeting in 1003 00:31:29,762 --> 00:31:31,762 - 1004 00:31:33,235 --> 00:31:36,835 SEPTEMBER we will have the ceo 1005 00:31:37,205 --> 00:31:37,906 search firm coming to us as a 1006 00:31:37,906 --> 00:31:40,609 proposal as well as the first 1007 00:31:40,609 --> 00:31:41,410 report we have a consultant 1008 00:31:41,410 --> 00:31:42,430 that's working on governance 1009 00:31:42,430 --> 00:31:42,343 because it's a very large 1010 00:31:42,343 --> 00:31:44,343 board. 1011 00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:45,480 The agency has grown 1012 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,215 tremendously. 1013 00:31:47,215 --> 00:31:49,615 It's four different counties, 1014 00:31:51,860 --> 00:31:51,319 38 cities or 38 member agencies 1015 00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:52,221 . 1016 00:31:52,221 --> 00:31:52,588 So we're going to be hearing 1017 00:31:52,588 --> 00:31:54,556 from that. 1018 00:31:54,556 --> 00:31:55,423 The other thing that we are 1019 00:31:55,423 --> 00:31:58,423 looking at with the california 1020 00:31:58,460 --> 00:31:59,261 power grid is very complicated 1021 00:31:59,261 --> 00:32:02,564 and we have been looking at how 1022 00:32:02,564 --> 00:32:03,298 we are procuring ur power to 1023 00:32:03,298 --> 00:32:06,298 make sure that we're maximizing 1024 00:32:06,368 --> 00:32:07,202 the greenhouse gas benefits in 1025 00:32:07,202 --> 00:32:10,772 our cost effective in that we 1026 00:32:10,772 --> 00:32:11,506 have been holding a series of 1027 00:32:11,506 --> 00:32:14,710 workshops a number of the folks 1028 00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:15,344 in walnut creek and in contra 1029 00:32:15,344 --> 00:32:17,512 costa county interested in 1030 00:32:17,512 --> 00:32:17,913 sustainability have been coming 1031 00:32:17,913 --> 00:32:18,714 . 1032 00:32:18,714 --> 00:32:21,750 There is a survey in the field 1033 00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:22,484 right ow that is ue by this 1034 00:32:22,484 --> 00:32:25,484 friday and I've circulated that 1035 00:32:25,754 --> 00:32:26,456 to the members in contra costa 1036 00:32:26,456 --> 00:32:29,580 county that are interested in 1037 00:32:29,580 --> 00:32:29,891 sustainability and mce. 1038 00:32:29,891 --> 00:32:30,893 If anybody else would like a 1039 00:32:30,893 --> 00:32:32,661 copy of it I can get that to 1040 00:32:32,661 --> 00:32:33,696 them. 1041 00:32:33,696 --> 00:32:36,999 But overall we have a lot of 1042 00:32:36,999 --> 00:32:40,469 work to do between now and 1043 00:32:40,469 --> 00:32:41,136 DECEMBER and we are looking at 1044 00:32:41,136 --> 00:32:44,106 making sure that we are an 1045 00:32:44,106 --> 00:32:44,806 agency that can work together 1046 00:32:44,806 --> 00:32:47,206 effectively and represent our 1047 00:32:48,478 --> 00:32:49,311 multitude in this multitude of 1048 00:32:49,311 --> 00:32:49,612 rate payers in a way that makes 1049 00:32:49,612 --> 00:32:51,612 sense. 1050 00:32:52,615 --> 00:32:52,949 So that's my report for 1051 00:32:52,949 --> 00:32:53,549 tonight. 1052 00:32:53,549 --> 00:32:53,882 Thank you, councilmember 1053 00:32:53,882 --> 00:32:55,882 darling. 1054 00:32:56,552 --> 00:32:56,952 And then we have councilmember 1055 00:32:56,952 --> 00:32:57,586 devinney. 1056 00:32:57,586 --> 00:32:58,387 >> thank you, mayor. 1057 00:32:58,387 --> 00:33:01,424 I have a brief report this 1058 00:33:01,424 --> 00:33:04,326 evening I was able to attend 1059 00:33:04,326 --> 00:33:04,861 two chamber events this last uh 1060 00:33:04,861 --> 00:33:06,861 last go round. 1061 00:33:08,531 --> 00:33:09,499 One was the business and social 1062 00:33:09,499 --> 00:33:11,901 hour at the new diva workspace 1063 00:33:11,901 --> 00:33:12,601 on tree boulevard. 1064 00:33:12,601 --> 00:33:13,203 Very nice workspace. 1065 00:33:13,203 --> 00:33:15,603 So someone's looking for 1066 00:33:16,305 --> 00:33:16,739 something like that to get out 1067 00:33:16,739 --> 00:33:18,739 of the house. 1068 00:33:19,976 --> 00:33:22,376 Great destination and and 1069 00:33:23,246 --> 00:33:26,846 want to thank dan and angela 1070 00:33:27,317 --> 00:33:28,117 ashley angels our board f 1071 00:33:28,117 --> 00:33:28,851 chair of the board for the 1072 00:33:28,851 --> 00:33:31,354 chamber of commerce they opened 1073 00:33:31,354 --> 00:33:32,880 up their home and we were there 1074 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,880 to celebrate katie barrows, the 1075 00:33:35,692 --> 00:33:36,525 new PRESIDENT And ceo of the 1076 00:33:36,525 --> 00:33:39,295 chamber and that was very nice 1077 00:33:39,295 --> 00:33:40,263 of them. 1078 00:33:40,263 --> 00:33:40,897 So thank you to them and that's 1079 00:33:40,897 --> 00:33:43,133 all I've got to thank you. 1080 00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:44,000 All right. 1081 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,668 Well lot's been covered but few 1082 00:33:44,668 --> 00:33:46,936 of the things and I'll just 1083 00:33:46,936 --> 00:33:47,671 expand a little bit upon what 1084 00:33:47,671 --> 00:33:48,338 the mayor pro tem had mentioned 1085 00:33:48,338 --> 00:33:50,707 about the key to the city 1086 00:33:50,707 --> 00:33:51,207 students exchange which is 1087 00:33:51,207 --> 00:33:53,207 really phenomenal. 1088 00:33:53,676 --> 00:33:54,443 In fact I had many families 1089 00:33:54,443 --> 00:33:55,111 that were northgate families 1090 00:33:55,111 --> 00:33:58,415 came to me during the event 1091 00:33:58,415 --> 00:33:59,115 saying how how wonderful this 1092 00:33:59,115 --> 00:34:01,851 was for their own family to be 1093 00:34:01,851 --> 00:34:02,318 able to have that and shared 1094 00:34:02,318 --> 00:34:04,318 that experience. 1095 00:34:05,855 --> 00:34:06,690 And if think about how was 3040 1096 00:34:06,690 --> 00:34:09,690 years ago you'd have an 1097 00:34:10,494 --> 00:34:11,194 exchange program, maybe they'd 1098 00:34:11,194 --> 00:34:11,694 share a couple of letters and 1099 00:34:11,694 --> 00:34:12,362 that would be it. 1100 00:34:12,362 --> 00:34:14,330 But now between social media 1101 00:34:14,330 --> 00:34:14,998 and emails I mean these 1102 00:34:14,998 --> 00:34:17,534 students MAY be friends for 1103 00:34:17,534 --> 00:34:18,367 decades and and visit each 1104 00:34:18,367 --> 00:34:18,969 other in their own countries 1105 00:34:18,969 --> 00:34:21,369 with their own families. 1106 00:34:21,672 --> 00:34:22,505 So it's really phenomenal. 1107 00:34:22,505 --> 00:34:25,208 And we already have talked 1108 00:34:25,208 --> 00:34:26,420 about the 10th anniversary of 1109 00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:26,709 when we had a partnership 1110 00:34:26,709 --> 00:34:29,709 signing with them nine years 1111 00:34:29,846 --> 00:34:30,547 ago and so next year the mayor 1112 00:34:30,547 --> 00:34:33,547 will come out council members 1113 00:34:33,550 --> 00:34:36,786 and leaders of the city will be 1114 00:34:36,786 --> 00:34:37,821 out here next OCTOBER and we'll 1115 00:34:37,821 --> 00:34:38,321 put on a show for walnut creek 1116 00:34:38,321 --> 00:34:39,220 for them as well. 1117 00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:41,658 So and you're not getting out 1118 00:34:41,658 --> 00:34:42,358 of that well, you MAY not be 1119 00:34:42,358 --> 00:34:43,920 sitting right here but you're 1120 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,394 going to be here as well for 1121 00:34:44,394 --> 00:34:45,950 that. 1122 00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:45,695 So anyway, terrific. 1123 00:34:45,695 --> 00:34:48,532 We look forward to more 1124 00:34:48,532 --> 00:34:49,333 exchanges with not only key to 1125 00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:50,167 city but our sister cities the 1126 00:34:50,167 --> 00:34:53,767 chatto and chio folk in the 1127 00:34:56,390 --> 00:34:56,907 future I had the what a true 1128 00:34:56,907 --> 00:34:57,508 pleasure to cut he ribbon for 1129 00:34:57,508 --> 00:34:59,908 the 35th anniversary of 1130 00:35:00,577 --> 00:35:01,578 springfield montessori. 1131 00:35:01,578 --> 00:35:02,412 Now we cut a lot of ribbons 1132 00:35:02,412 --> 00:35:04,214 here we go we go to new 1133 00:35:04,214 --> 00:35:05,248 businesses. 1134 00:35:05,248 --> 00:35:05,816 We don't have a lot of personal 1135 00:35:05,816 --> 00:35:06,216 involvement with those 1136 00:35:06,216 --> 00:35:08,216 businesses. 1137 00:35:08,752 --> 00:35:09,119 We just met them and we wish 1138 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:09,887 them luck. 1139 00:35:09,887 --> 00:35:12,489 We hope they're here for a long 1140 00:35:12,489 --> 00:35:13,560 time my kids went to two 1141 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,757 montessori springfield 1142 00:35:13,757 --> 00:35:16,757 montessori and they went there 1143 00:35:17,628 --> 00:35:21,980 to seven and 25 years ago and 1144 00:35:21,980 --> 00:35:21,899 so it was truly a leasure to 1145 00:35:21,899 --> 00:35:25,350 be able to see the the 1146 00:35:25,350 --> 00:35:25,670 executive is running 1147 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:26,303 springfield montessori and 1148 00:35:26,303 --> 00:35:29,239 bringing back some of the 1149 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,239 former teachers that my own 1150 00:35:32,844 --> 00:35:33,644 kids had and this is how this 1151 00:35:33,644 --> 00:35:34,444 MAY be the best endorsement 1152 00:35:34,444 --> 00:35:36,980 that I can actually give of of 1153 00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:37,682 springfield montessori of 1154 00:35:37,682 --> 00:35:40,682 course I remember the teachers 1155 00:35:41,385 --> 00:35:42,119 they remembered my kids they 1156 00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:45,119 remembered shane and dario when 1157 00:35:45,356 --> 00:35:45,723 they were two years old and one 1158 00:35:45,723 --> 00:35:47,723 year old. 1159 00:35:48,292 --> 00:35:48,692 They remembered their best 1160 00:35:48,692 --> 00:35:49,359 fiends. 1161 00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:52,359 They remembered that the the 1162 00:35:52,396 --> 00:35:53,197 grandmother of orioles named 1163 00:35:53,197 --> 00:35:56,797 bobby I mean amazing and this 1164 00:35:57,301 --> 00:35:58,350 is the care that they put into 1165 00:35:58,350 --> 00:36:00,738 the kids that truly become part 1166 00:36:00,738 --> 00:36:01,772 of their own family too. 1167 00:36:01,772 --> 00:36:05,175 So it was truly a wonderful 1168 00:36:05,175 --> 00:36:05,876 experience to be able to cut 1169 00:36:05,876 --> 00:36:07,979 the ribbon on that and thank 1170 00:36:07,979 --> 00:36:08,913 you to to mike and cassava for 1171 00:36:08,913 --> 00:36:09,680 joining me on that one. 1172 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,750 I also had the opportunity to 1173 00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:13,384 meet with you csf benioff with 1174 00:36:13,384 --> 00:36:15,384 their government relations 1175 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,754 person and talking about 1176 00:36:16,754 --> 00:36:19,754 obviously there's a lot of 1177 00:36:19,824 --> 00:36:20,825 investment that's coming from 1178 00:36:20,825 --> 00:36:24,262 ucsf and benioff right now so 1179 00:36:24,262 --> 00:36:27,598 talk really about how we're be 1180 00:36:27,598 --> 00:36:28,332 able to open those discussions 1181 00:36:28,332 --> 00:36:28,833 and future opportunities and 1182 00:36:28,833 --> 00:36:30,833 working with them. 1183 00:36:31,350 --> 00:36:31,736 So just a nice welcoming 1184 00:36:31,736 --> 00:36:32,670 meeting on that one. 1185 00:36:32,670 --> 00:36:35,940 You heard about the meeting of 1186 00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:36,574 the chamber ceo katie burroughs 1187 00:36:36,574 --> 00:36:39,277 and the meeting of he 1188 00:36:39,277 --> 00:36:41,277 candidates today. 1189 00:36:43,247 --> 00:36:43,981 I will I will wrap it up by 1190 00:36:43,981 --> 00:36:46,784 saying that there's going to be 1191 00:36:46,784 --> 00:36:47,585 some interesting things that 1192 00:36:47,585 --> 00:36:50,288 I'm hoping to see with walnut 1193 00:36:50,288 --> 00:36:51,189 creek downtown over the next 1194 00:36:51,189 --> 00:36:53,891 few months and into next year. 1195 00:36:53,891 --> 00:36:54,525 I haven't been at one of the 1196 00:36:54,525 --> 00:36:54,825 meetings now for about six 1197 00:36:54,825 --> 00:36:56,394 weeks. 1198 00:36:56,394 --> 00:36:57,280 We'll have another 1 in 2 weeks 1199 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:57,729 and one of the things that 1200 00:36:57,729 --> 00:36:59,998 we're talking about is making 1201 00:36:59,998 --> 00:37:00,699 more of a tie in between the 1202 00:37:00,699 --> 00:37:03,350 lecture center and some of the 1203 00:37:03,350 --> 00:37:04,202 businesses that are downtown 1204 00:37:04,202 --> 00:37:04,903 and what we can do to really 1205 00:37:04,903 --> 00:37:08,173 help to foment those ties and 1206 00:37:08,173 --> 00:37:08,907 if you come if you're coming to 1207 00:37:08,907 --> 00:37:11,476 a performance, there ould be 1208 00:37:11,476 --> 00:37:12,143 an opportunity to be able to 1209 00:37:12,143 --> 00:37:14,546 get a discount and save some 1210 00:37:14,546 --> 00:37:15,313 money at some of the other 1211 00:37:15,313 --> 00:37:15,680 restaurants or services 1212 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,348 downtown. 1213 00:37:16,348 --> 00:37:18,583 So we're working on that and 1214 00:37:18,583 --> 00:37:19,284 I'm looking forward to seeing 1215 00:37:19,284 --> 00:37:21,786 how that progresses nd I'm not 1216 00:37:21,786 --> 00:37:22,620 going to say much else about 1217 00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:23,321 walnut creek downtown right now 1218 00:37:23,321 --> 00:37:25,957 because the last time I spoke 1219 00:37:25,957 --> 00:37:26,758 at the city council meeting 1220 00:37:26,758 --> 00:37:29,427 that comment went viral and we 1221 00:37:29,427 --> 00:37:30,195 were mentioned on people 1222 00:37:30,195 --> 00:37:32,764 magazine as the viral comment 1223 00:37:32,764 --> 00:37:33,265 of the of the week in the 1224 00:37:33,265 --> 00:37:33,965 nation evidently. 1225 00:37:33,965 --> 00:37:37,101 And so I'm not going to talk 1226 00:37:37,101 --> 00:37:37,836 about nicknames just going to 1227 00:37:37,836 --> 00:37:40,905 say let's close this portion of 1228 00:37:40,905 --> 00:37:44,143 the agenda item and that is my 1229 00:37:44,143 --> 00:37:45,376 update. 1230 00:37:45,376 --> 00:37:48,460 So next on the agenda is 1231 00:37:48,460 --> 00:37:50,446 consideration item for policy 1232 00:37:51,150 --> 00:37:52,510 direction on regulation of 1233 00:37:52,510 --> 00:37:52,751 short term rentals and I invite 1234 00:37:52,751 --> 00:37:54,751 community development director 1235 00:37:55,421 --> 00:37:58,421 erica vanden brand forward to 1236 00:38:02,361 --> 00:38:04,361 provide the presentation. 1237 00:38:06,932 --> 00:38:10,235 Thank you very much mayor mayor 1238 00:38:10,235 --> 00:38:11,300 pro tem council I am erica van 1239 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:11,670 and brown the community 1240 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:12,371 development director to talk 1241 00:38:12,371 --> 00:38:13,972 about the regulation of short 1242 00:38:13,972 --> 00:38:14,973 term rentals. 1243 00:38:14,973 --> 00:38:19,770 So the request that we have of 1244 00:38:19,770 --> 00:38:21,346 council right now is to we're 1245 00:38:21,346 --> 00:38:22,381 seeking a policy direction on 1246 00:38:22,381 --> 00:38:25,381 the regulation of short term 1247 00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:26,752 rentals. 1248 00:38:26,752 --> 00:38:29,455 So what is a short term rental 1249 00:38:29,455 --> 00:38:30,288 essentially it's a rental that 1250 00:38:30,288 --> 00:38:33,288 occurs less than 30 days and 1251 00:38:33,992 --> 00:38:34,693 it's typically a home or a 1252 00:38:34,693 --> 00:38:37,950 portion of a home or a room 1253 00:38:37,950 --> 00:38:39,495 during that time period. 1254 00:38:41,166 --> 00:38:41,767 And the reason why that we'd 1255 00:38:41,767 --> 00:38:44,570 like to consider you to 1256 00:38:44,570 --> 00:38:45,171 consider some I'm looking at 1257 00:38:45,171 --> 00:38:45,737 whether or not there are 1258 00:38:45,737 --> 00:38:48,137 changes needed in the 1259 00:38:48,607 --> 00:38:49,275 regulation is that since the 1260 00:38:49,275 --> 00:38:51,675 ordinance was first adopted 1261 00:38:52,511 --> 00:38:53,145 there have been several things 1262 00:38:53,145 --> 00:38:53,912 that have been happening. 1263 00:38:53,912 --> 00:38:56,649 So one is that there's an 1264 00:38:56,649 --> 00:38:57,450 affordable housing crisis in 1265 00:38:57,450 --> 00:39:00,450 the state and that whenever 1266 00:39:00,753 --> 00:39:03,622 short term rentals of homes are 1267 00:39:03,622 --> 00:39:04,257 you know, done or you know as a 1268 00:39:04,257 --> 00:39:06,826 business it takes away the 1269 00:39:06,826 --> 00:39:07,160 potential stock for longer term 1270 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,160 housing. 1271 00:39:10,729 --> 00:39:11,597 >> other trends are that you 1272 00:39:11,597 --> 00:39:14,934 know, short term rentals are an 1273 00:39:14,934 --> 00:39:15,802 increasingly desirable lodging 1274 00:39:15,802 --> 00:39:16,769 option that people look for to 1275 00:39:16,769 --> 00:39:18,872 have a you know, a more home 1276 00:39:18,872 --> 00:39:19,606 oriented environment whether 1277 00:39:19,606 --> 00:39:22,600 they're on vacation, traveling 1278 00:39:22,842 --> 00:39:25,842 or recovering from a medical 1279 00:39:27,460 --> 00:39:27,747 procedure or an event so that 1280 00:39:27,747 --> 00:39:29,747 there's technology technology 1281 00:39:31,117 --> 00:39:31,851 has made great advances that 1282 00:39:31,851 --> 00:39:34,521 has really reduced the friction 1283 00:39:34,521 --> 00:39:36,921 and essentially the interaction 1284 00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:38,791 between homeowners and visitors 1285 00:39:38,791 --> 00:39:41,761 to quickly connect and then 1286 00:39:41,761 --> 00:39:42,161 transact these rental agreement 1287 00:39:42,161 --> 00:39:42,322 . 1288 00:39:42,322 --> 00:39:42,928 - 1289 00:39:42,928 --> 00:39:46,528 so we've all heard about airbnb 1290 00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:47,300 and the rba etc. And so it's 1291 00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,900 really you know you can get 1292 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,907 into this as a business with a 1293 00:39:53,907 --> 00:39:54,240 very low bar then there's 1294 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,240 clarity. 1295 00:39:58,411 --> 00:39:59,780 >> so the city as do many 1296 00:39:59,780 --> 00:40:01,478 cities actually we currently 1297 00:40:01,814 --> 00:40:02,515 regulate the short term rental 1298 00:40:02,515 --> 00:40:05,185 through a bed and breakfast 1299 00:40:05,185 --> 00:40:05,818 ordinance and then this 1300 00:40:05,818 --> 00:40:08,218 requires a conditional use 1301 00:40:08,688 --> 00:40:09,289 permit so that in rder to 1302 00:40:09,289 --> 00:40:11,689 bring a business into 1303 00:40:12,392 --> 00:40:12,993 compliance they have to go 1304 00:40:12,993 --> 00:40:15,393 through a fairly lengthy 1305 00:40:16,329 --> 00:40:19,265 process to be able to operate 1306 00:40:19,265 --> 00:40:19,999 within the city's parameters. 1307 00:40:19,999 --> 00:40:20,700 Then of course there's 1308 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:23,100 administration so that there's 1309 00:40:23,336 --> 00:40:25,336 program administration 1310 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:27,807 enforcement and that while you 1311 00:40:27,807 --> 00:40:30,207 know it's certainly possible 1312 00:40:31,344 --> 00:40:32,120 and we do regulate, you know, 1313 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,848 the businesses this way and 1314 00:40:34,848 --> 00:40:35,615 enforce it create some 1315 00:40:35,615 --> 00:40:38,251 challenges for us with clarity. 1316 00:40:38,251 --> 00:40:38,885 And then there's the transient 1317 00:40:38,885 --> 00:40:41,285 occupancy tax that there's 1318 00:40:42,122 --> 00:40:42,923 revenue collection that until 1319 00:40:42,923 --> 00:40:45,923 folks come into compliance it's 1320 00:40:46,427 --> 00:40:47,161 very difficult o compel 1321 00:40:47,161 --> 00:40:47,427 compliance with collecting that 1322 00:40:47,427 --> 00:40:49,427 tax. 1323 00:40:50,464 --> 00:40:51,165 Now one of the other changes 1324 00:40:51,165 --> 00:40:54,165 that's happened is that under 1325 00:40:54,568 --> 00:40:57,568 state law these platforms are 1326 00:40:57,737 --> 00:40:58,538 now required to provide data to 1327 00:40:58,538 --> 00:41:00,938 us jurisdictions on who's 1328 00:41:02,208 --> 00:41:02,910 operating where and how many 1329 00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:05,612 days etc. So that there's the 1330 00:41:05,612 --> 00:41:08,120 ability to more efficiently 1331 00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:11,283 collect that tax revenue. 1332 00:41:12,987 --> 00:41:13,788 >> so this is a snapshot of 1333 00:41:13,788 --> 00:41:16,456 short term rentals in walnut 1334 00:41:16,456 --> 00:41:16,790 creek you'll notice a couple of 1335 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:17,458 things. 1336 00:41:17,458 --> 00:41:20,293 You'll notice that there are 1337 00:41:20,293 --> 00:41:21,294 111 properties advertised but 1338 00:41:21,294 --> 00:41:23,196 certainly the map that's there 1339 00:41:23,196 --> 00:41:23,464 doesn't have 111 properties on 1340 00:41:23,464 --> 00:41:25,464 it. 1341 00:41:26,533 --> 00:41:27,300 That's because things change on 1342 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:28,200 almost a daily basis. 1343 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,972 So it's essentially looking at 1344 00:41:30,972 --> 00:41:31,372 inventory within the 1345 00:41:31,372 --> 00:41:31,972 marketplace. 1346 00:41:31,972 --> 00:41:34,972 This data these data are 1347 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,476 provided by our business 1348 00:41:38,446 --> 00:41:39,279 license folks who are who've 1349 00:41:39,279 --> 00:41:42,879 been tasked with trying to help 1350 00:41:42,883 --> 00:41:43,383 us look at the different 1351 00:41:43,383 --> 00:41:45,383 numbers with this. 1352 00:41:46,530 --> 00:41:46,721 So while there MAY be 111 1353 00:41:46,721 --> 00:41:48,721 properties advertised across 1354 00:41:49,756 --> 00:41:51,756 the different multiple 1355 00:41:52,793 --> 00:41:53,594 platforms, there are over 265 1356 00:41:53,594 --> 00:41:55,594 listings for those 111 1357 00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:57,631 properties yet of that only 13 1358 00:41:57,631 --> 00:42:00,300 are registered and are playing 1359 00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:03,300 on their business licenses and 1360 00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:04,639 some level of the total and of 1361 00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:05,339 these only three have 1362 00:42:05,339 --> 00:42:07,739 conditional use permits having 1363 00:42:08,276 --> 00:42:11,276 gone through the entire process 1364 00:42:11,746 --> 00:42:12,447 to essentially operate 1365 00:42:12,447 --> 00:42:14,847 legitimately within the city. 1366 00:42:15,249 --> 00:42:16,500 Well we also found out from 1367 00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,450 hdl, our consultant who's 1368 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:22,200 responsible for our business 1369 00:42:22,957 --> 00:42:23,791 licenses is that their estimate 1370 00:42:23,791 --> 00:42:27,391 based on their best guesses is 1371 00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:28,395 that the amount of additional 1372 00:42:28,395 --> 00:42:31,395 totty that the city ight 1373 00:42:31,499 --> 00:42:35,699 realize if we were to more I 1374 00:42:35,703 --> 00:42:36,371 guess make it easier to be able 1375 00:42:36,371 --> 00:42:39,371 to access short term rentals 1376 00:42:39,907 --> 00:42:42,907 would be just under $169,000 in 1377 00:42:43,344 --> 00:42:44,378 revenue. 1378 00:42:44,378 --> 00:42:47,882 So to give you some perspective 1379 00:42:47,882 --> 00:42:48,716 how to nearby urisdiction 1380 00:42:48,716 --> 00:42:51,116 funds regulate short term 1381 00:42:51,552 --> 00:42:52,587 rentals. 1382 00:42:52,587 --> 00:42:55,587 >> so the cities of brentwood 1383 00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:58,626 concord in the town of danville 1384 00:42:58,626 --> 00:42:59,494 each prohibit rentals under 31 1385 00:42:59,494 --> 00:43:02,494 days so they essentially ban 1386 00:43:02,530 --> 00:43:03,432 short term rentals. 1387 00:43:03,432 --> 00:43:06,432 Others like dublin, you know, 1388 00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:07,169 use the brighton bed and 1389 00:43:07,169 --> 00:43:10,169 breakfast ordinance as do we 1390 00:43:10,638 --> 00:43:11,439 and then still others like 1391 00:43:11,439 --> 00:43:14,108 orinda and san ramon and then 1392 00:43:14,108 --> 00:43:17,108 contra costa county use short 1393 00:43:18,112 --> 00:43:18,780 term rental permit so you know 1394 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:21,180 a more administrative permit 1395 00:43:22,283 --> 00:43:25,530 type of process and then in 1396 00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:26,870 addition you know in all the 1397 00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:26,721 reading test notes on the right 1398 00:43:26,721 --> 00:43:29,721 hand side there are some 1399 00:43:30,124 --> 00:43:33,295 nuances about you know, s it 1400 00:43:33,295 --> 00:43:34,960 hosted not hosted operating, 1401 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:34,596 you know, certain number of 1402 00:43:34,596 --> 00:43:36,996 days and so forth. 1403 00:43:37,833 --> 00:43:38,990 Is it a onditional use permit 1404 00:43:38,990 --> 00:43:38,767 ? 1405 00:43:38,767 --> 00:43:39,467 But I just offer this 1406 00:43:39,467 --> 00:43:42,770 information to you just as you 1407 00:43:42,770 --> 00:43:45,307 know, sort of a like a start of 1408 00:43:45,307 --> 00:43:47,307 what's going on. 1409 00:43:49,311 --> 00:43:50,112 >> so give that information and 1410 00:43:50,112 --> 00:43:53,712 what you know, you know about 1411 00:43:53,815 --> 00:43:56,815 short term rentals we are 1412 00:43:56,952 --> 00:43:57,919 requesting guidance about first 1413 00:43:57,919 --> 00:44:00,919 short short short term rentals 1414 00:44:01,590 --> 00:44:02,290 be allowed in the in the city 1415 00:44:02,290 --> 00:44:04,993 or should they be disallowed. 1416 00:44:04,993 --> 00:44:05,794 However, if they are allowed 1417 00:44:05,794 --> 00:44:06,628 should the city continue to 1418 00:44:06,628 --> 00:44:09,731 regulate them as a bed and 1419 00:44:09,731 --> 00:44:10,298 breakfast or develop a more 1420 00:44:10,298 --> 00:44:12,298 streamlined option for 1421 00:44:13,101 --> 00:44:15,101 consideration for council's 1422 00:44:16,538 --> 00:44:17,339 consideration and should 1423 00:44:17,339 --> 00:44:19,739 council provide direction on 1424 00:44:20,342 --> 00:44:21,143 that in that manner? 1425 00:44:21,143 --> 00:44:24,143 What aspects might you be 1426 00:44:24,546 --> 00:44:25,281 interested in getting eedback 1427 00:44:25,281 --> 00:44:28,490 on from the planning commission 1428 00:44:28,490 --> 00:44:28,751 the community so things like 1429 00:44:28,751 --> 00:44:31,654 you know should a short term 1430 00:44:31,654 --> 00:44:35,254 rental be hosted or not hosted 1431 00:44:35,724 --> 00:44:36,324 lcation restrictions if any 1432 00:44:36,324 --> 00:44:38,324 maximum rental duration 1433 00:44:40,629 --> 00:44:41,330 operational require minutes and 1434 00:44:41,330 --> 00:44:43,730 then permissibility of events 1435 00:44:43,799 --> 00:44:44,834 and anything else. 1436 00:44:44,834 --> 00:44:47,903 So I think that you know just 1437 00:44:47,903 --> 00:44:48,637 to also give you a little bit 1438 00:44:48,637 --> 00:44:52,237 of context, our current bed and 1439 00:44:52,374 --> 00:44:53,750 breakfast ordinance, you know 1440 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:56,412 has no more than one week and 1441 00:44:56,412 --> 00:44:56,779 it has you know, has a week 1442 00:44:56,779 --> 00:44:58,779 duration. 1443 00:44:58,881 --> 00:44:59,514 I has 500ft away in certain 1444 00:44:59,514 --> 00:45:01,914 locations, you know, from 1445 00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:02,484 arterials and collector 1446 00:45:02,484 --> 00:45:03,385 streets. 1447 00:45:03,385 --> 00:45:06,355 it does not require that a host 1448 00:45:06,355 --> 00:45:07,590 be present. 1449 00:45:07,590 --> 00:45:10,359 So you know, just to give you 1450 00:45:10,359 --> 00:45:11,600 some you know, I guess 1451 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,600 information about that and so 1452 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:14,496 with that any questions? 1453 00:45:14,496 --> 00:45:16,496 >> okay. 1454 00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:18,600 Thank you, erika, do we have 1455 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,603 any I'm sure we do have 1456 00:45:21,603 --> 00:45:22,438 questions. 1457 00:45:22,438 --> 00:45:23,973 Let's start start with 1458 00:45:23,973 --> 00:45:24,507 councilmember delaney first. 1459 00:45:24,507 --> 00:45:26,507 >> all right. 1460 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:27,309 Thank you for the presentation 1461 00:45:27,309 --> 00:45:29,309 . 1462 00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:31,380 >> I I'm curious so we're using 1463 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:33,380 digital companies, right? 1464 00:45:38,621 --> 00:45:39,455 And and we've are we right now 1465 00:45:39,455 --> 00:45:42,125 in a relationship with them 1466 00:45:42,125 --> 00:45:42,925 where they're helping us with 1467 00:45:42,925 --> 00:45:43,560 like discovery and compliance 1468 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,560 of short term rentals and 1469 00:45:50,990 --> 00:45:50,900 collecting of totty so we have 1470 00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:53,502 them available for that action 1471 00:45:53,502 --> 00:45:54,303 but we need to be able to get 1472 00:45:54,303 --> 00:45:57,303 more clarity on what we're 1473 00:45:58,107 --> 00:46:01,107 actually enforcing nd how and 1474 00:46:02,178 --> 00:46:02,578 each effort to bring in check 1475 00:46:02,578 --> 00:46:04,578 compliance. 1476 00:46:05,581 --> 00:46:06,616 There's significant amount of 1477 00:46:06,616 --> 00:46:09,285 work that needs to be done so 1478 00:46:09,285 --> 00:46:10,319 that as I had noted earlier, 1479 00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:13,689 that to regulate a short term 1480 00:46:13,689 --> 00:46:14,390 rental requires a conditional 1481 00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:17,493 use permit and there's a whole 1482 00:46:17,493 --> 00:46:18,161 body of ork that needs to 1483 00:46:18,161 --> 00:46:20,997 occur with an applicant to 1484 00:46:20,997 --> 00:46:21,398 bring that forward to planning 1485 00:46:21,398 --> 00:46:23,398 commission. 1486 00:46:24,167 --> 00:46:26,167 So with 108 nd 11 1487 00:46:27,337 --> 00:46:28,380 opportunities to do that it 1488 00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:30,438 takes a little bit. 1489 00:46:31,842 --> 00:46:32,542 But that was but to understand 1490 00:46:32,542 --> 00:46:35,344 that that is within the scope 1491 00:46:35,344 --> 00:46:36,780 of the contract that we entered 1492 00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:39,820 with them was to help us with 1493 00:46:39,820 --> 00:46:39,750 that collection and so yes, 1494 00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:40,830 they have that capacity 1495 00:46:40,830 --> 00:46:42,830 ability. 1496 00:46:42,818 --> 00:46:43,653 I think that we have you know, 1497 00:46:43,653 --> 00:46:46,423 we have had a lighter touch 1498 00:46:46,423 --> 00:46:47,224 with them just simply because 1499 00:46:47,224 --> 00:46:50,224 they you know, they've been 1500 00:46:50,927 --> 00:46:51,528 collecting top tax for us and 1501 00:46:51,528 --> 00:46:54,231 so forth as part of the 1502 00:46:54,231 --> 00:46:56,231 business licensing process. 1503 00:46:57,701 --> 00:46:58,601 But as part of the workflow one 1504 00:46:58,601 --> 00:47:01,839 of the things they ask is are 1505 00:47:01,839 --> 00:47:02,672 are they a legitimate business? 1506 00:47:02,672 --> 00:47:03,307 Have they gone through and 1507 00:47:03,307 --> 00:47:05,341 gotten the conditional use 1508 00:47:05,341 --> 00:47:06,209 permit? 1509 00:47:06,209 --> 00:47:09,209 And so that's where there's 1510 00:47:09,779 --> 00:47:10,480 some you know are out in the 1511 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,115 community trying to get folks 1512 00:47:11,115 --> 00:47:14,115 to actually go through the 1513 00:47:14,317 --> 00:47:17,620 process to be able to have the 1514 00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:18,688 conditional use permits. 1515 00:47:18,688 --> 00:47:19,155 You know, I can add to that if 1516 00:47:19,155 --> 00:47:21,155 you would like. 1517 00:47:21,525 --> 00:47:22,192 So in terms of as eric is 1518 00:47:22,192 --> 00:47:22,693 noted, they primarily do our 1519 00:47:22,693 --> 00:47:24,693 business license. 1520 00:47:25,396 --> 00:47:28,598 They also can do this service 1521 00:47:28,598 --> 00:47:29,399 we have chosen prior to having 1522 00:47:29,399 --> 00:47:32,399 this discussion to input that 1523 00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:36,603 we have not asked them to 1524 00:47:36,673 --> 00:47:37,674 proactively enforce and collect 1525 00:47:37,674 --> 00:47:38,409 the totty and ask them to come 1526 00:47:38,409 --> 00:47:41,409 into compliance for the reasons 1527 00:47:41,512 --> 00:47:44,314 noted that if we had 111 come 1528 00:47:44,314 --> 00:47:44,981 in to actively comply we 1529 00:47:44,981 --> 00:47:47,981 couldn't handle that type of 1530 00:47:48,180 --> 00:47:48,586 volume at this point because of 1531 00:47:48,586 --> 00:47:50,586 the process involved. 1532 00:47:51,522 --> 00:47:52,556 So what they have been doing 1533 00:47:52,556 --> 00:47:53,256 those that have come in and 1534 00:47:53,256 --> 00:47:56,256 have requested to pay they're 1535 00:47:57,940 --> 00:47:57,761 certainly collecting and doing 1536 00:47:57,761 --> 00:48:00,497 the business license but we 1537 00:48:00,497 --> 00:48:03,134 also felt that we should not go 1538 00:48:03,134 --> 00:48:03,868 out and actively ask a 111 to 1539 00:48:03,868 --> 00:48:06,770 be paying the totty if we're 1540 00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:07,538 not giving them an avenue to 1541 00:48:07,538 --> 00:48:10,538 come into compliance and given 1542 00:48:10,774 --> 00:48:11,508 the current regulations and how 1543 00:48:11,508 --> 00:48:12,209 burdensome it is, we don't 1544 00:48:12,209 --> 00:48:12,776 think we can handle that type 1545 00:48:12,776 --> 00:48:14,945 of volume all at once. 1546 00:48:14,945 --> 00:48:15,679 So we wanted to have this 1547 00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:18,679 discussion about how to proceed 1548 00:48:18,849 --> 00:48:19,550 with potential changes f the 1549 00:48:19,550 --> 00:48:22,352 decision were to continue with 1550 00:48:22,352 --> 00:48:23,860 the bed and breakfast ordinance 1551 00:48:23,860 --> 00:48:26,190 going forward we'd have to talk 1552 00:48:26,190 --> 00:48:26,924 through about how do we try to 1553 00:48:26,924 --> 00:48:29,727 sequence that work so that it's 1554 00:48:29,727 --> 00:48:30,594 manageable if we expect all to 1555 00:48:30,594 --> 00:48:31,294 come into compliance under the 1556 00:48:31,294 --> 00:48:33,464 current regulations and if we 1557 00:48:33,464 --> 00:48:34,131 did create a more streamlined 1558 00:48:34,131 --> 00:48:36,567 process, would we would we 1559 00:48:36,567 --> 00:48:37,168 outsource that to a third party 1560 00:48:37,168 --> 00:48:40,168 to handle that for us? 1561 00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:41,672 So there if we created a more 1562 00:48:41,672 --> 00:48:44,720 streamlined process we could 1563 00:48:45,409 --> 00:48:46,110 outsource a portion of that in 1564 00:48:46,110 --> 00:48:48,746 terms of communicating the you 1565 00:48:48,746 --> 00:48:51,146 know, the initial requirements 1566 00:48:52,783 --> 00:48:53,617 and but there would still be 1567 00:48:53,617 --> 00:48:56,487 work I'm involved on by city 1568 00:48:56,487 --> 00:48:57,121 staff but it wouldn't be nearly 1569 00:48:57,121 --> 00:49:00,910 as labor intensive and it 1570 00:49:00,910 --> 00:49:00,725 wouldn't need to have all the 1571 00:49:00,725 --> 00:49:03,125 preparatory work and legal 1572 00:49:03,894 --> 00:49:04,495 costs that are associated with 1573 00:49:04,495 --> 00:49:05,129 a conditional use permit 1574 00:49:05,129 --> 00:49:05,529 process with the planning 1575 00:49:05,529 --> 00:49:07,529 commission. 1576 00:49:10,802 --> 00:49:14,402 Okay I saw live 111 was the 1577 00:49:14,572 --> 00:49:15,606 number I think our last meeting 1578 00:49:15,606 --> 00:49:15,940 and I had looked the number up 1579 00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:17,374 myself. 1580 00:49:17,374 --> 00:49:20,545 I got something like 197 off of 1581 00:49:20,545 --> 00:49:23,545 their hair dna which apparently 1582 00:49:25,249 --> 00:49:25,983 does look for duplicates. 1583 00:49:25,983 --> 00:49:26,851 So what would it do? 1584 00:49:26,851 --> 00:49:29,254 We feel like this is a more 1585 00:49:29,254 --> 00:49:29,921 accurate number with why the 1586 00:49:29,921 --> 00:49:32,921 big difference in those two. 1587 00:49:32,991 --> 00:49:33,725 >> so this is a snapshot in 1588 00:49:33,725 --> 00:49:36,725 time that ur consultant gave 1589 00:49:36,894 --> 00:49:37,796 to us and as I head indicated 1590 00:49:37,796 --> 00:49:41,132 it changes on a daily basis how 1591 00:49:41,132 --> 00:49:41,666 many are advertised out there 1592 00:49:41,666 --> 00:49:42,334 in the marketplace? 1593 00:49:42,334 --> 00:49:45,934 And then one of the other 1594 00:49:45,970 --> 00:49:49,570 nuance pieces to this is that 1595 00:49:50,740 --> 00:49:50,808 it MAY read, if you will or be 1596 00:49:50,808 --> 00:49:53,808 characterized as a walnut creek 1597 00:49:53,945 --> 00:49:56,848 you know, short term rental but 1598 00:49:56,848 --> 00:49:57,616 it could be an unincorporated, 1599 00:49:57,616 --> 00:50:00,616 you know, contra costa county 1600 00:50:00,751 --> 00:50:04,356 or it could be giving a walnut 1601 00:50:04,356 --> 00:50:05,190 creek address quote unquote in 1602 00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:05,891 one of the you know, in a 1603 00:50:05,891 --> 00:50:07,891 neighboring jurisdiction that 1604 00:50:09,995 --> 00:50:10,562 bands airbnbs and short term 1605 00:50:10,562 --> 00:50:12,962 rentals and so forth. 1606 00:50:13,799 --> 00:50:14,499 >> so that our feeling is that 1607 00:50:14,499 --> 00:50:17,335 the the 111 number is more 1608 00:50:17,335 --> 00:50:20,335 accurate than the 197 or we're 1609 00:50:21,406 --> 00:50:22,730 sort of like I'm trying to get 1610 00:50:22,730 --> 00:50:23,942 a sense of the scope because 1611 00:50:23,942 --> 00:50:26,342 when we estimate the 168,000 1612 00:50:27,812 --> 00:50:28,747 when look at that number and 1613 00:50:28,747 --> 00:50:30,949 think about well if we got like 1614 00:50:30,949 --> 00:50:34,549 half of the properties in a 1615 00:50:35,220 --> 00:50:35,787 compliance and they were 1616 00:50:35,787 --> 00:50:38,187 generating say I think 1617 00:50:38,824 --> 00:50:39,825 currently that the the place 1618 00:50:39,825 --> 00:50:41,993 that the short term rentals are 1619 00:50:41,993 --> 00:50:44,393 about 70% occupied and they're 1620 00:50:44,929 --> 00:50:45,564 averaging like $175 a night 1621 00:50:45,564 --> 00:50:48,333 there's the numbers that I 1622 00:50:48,333 --> 00:50:49,134 looked at but you can correct 1623 00:50:49,134 --> 00:50:49,835 me if there's a more accurate 1624 00:50:49,835 --> 00:50:52,604 number but that would generate 1625 00:50:52,604 --> 00:50:55,604 more like the 4 or 5 plus 1626 00:50:55,874 --> 00:50:58,243 hundred thousand and in totty. 1627 00:50:58,243 --> 00:50:59,440 So I was also looking at 168 1628 00:50:59,440 --> 00:50:59,344 and wondering how we arrived at 1629 00:50:59,344 --> 00:51:01,344 that. 1630 00:51:02,681 --> 00:51:03,281 So I, I don't want to speak 1631 00:51:03,281 --> 00:51:06,281 exactly on behalf of our 1632 00:51:06,284 --> 00:51:06,919 consultant but what they've 1633 00:51:06,919 --> 00:51:09,889 conveyed to us is that you 1634 00:51:09,889 --> 00:51:10,822 know, again they are able to 1635 00:51:10,822 --> 00:51:13,659 look at any point in time and 1636 00:51:13,659 --> 00:51:14,326 so you at a different point in 1637 00:51:14,326 --> 00:51:16,828 time MAY have seen more 1638 00:51:16,828 --> 00:51:17,496 advertised and you know 1639 00:51:17,496 --> 00:51:19,896 different parameters and so 1640 00:51:20,832 --> 00:51:24,136 forth but they looked at that 1641 00:51:24,136 --> 00:51:25,700 and then what they also tell us 1642 00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:25,737 is that whenever there's a what 1643 00:51:25,737 --> 00:51:28,373 their experience has been in 1644 00:51:28,373 --> 00:51:29,107 the past is that whenever 1645 00:51:29,107 --> 00:51:32,110 there's a significant effort to 1646 00:51:32,110 --> 00:51:32,678 bring short term rentals into 1647 00:51:32,678 --> 00:51:35,780 compliance, some people will 1648 00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:36,782 drop out of the marketplace so 1649 00:51:36,782 --> 00:51:39,519 that that diminishes the number 1650 00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:42,889 of short term rentals and then 1651 00:51:42,889 --> 00:51:43,755 of that of those the remaining 1652 00:51:43,755 --> 00:51:46,755 folks decide whether or not 1653 00:51:47,293 --> 00:51:47,960 they want to, you know, go 1654 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,730 through the effort for, you 1655 00:51:50,730 --> 00:51:51,597 know, a ish how many days, 1656 00:51:51,597 --> 00:51:54,734 etc. And again it depends on 1657 00:51:54,734 --> 00:51:55,434 the type of regulation whether 1658 00:51:55,434 --> 00:51:55,768 it's hosted, non hosted, etc.. 1659 00:51:55,768 --> 00:51:57,768 >> okay. 1660 00:51:59,138 --> 00:52:02,138 However, like a legal question, 1661 00:52:02,241 --> 00:52:03,760 my understanding is that 1662 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:03,876 there's been laws passed that 1663 00:52:03,876 --> 00:52:06,779 sort of compel now these online 1664 00:52:06,779 --> 00:52:09,779 platforms to remit to not 1665 00:52:10,490 --> 00:52:11,830 directly to the cities does 1666 00:52:11,830 --> 00:52:14,187 that is that accurate and does 1667 00:52:14,187 --> 00:52:15,187 it require us say passing an 1668 00:52:15,187 --> 00:52:18,787 ordinance to sort of press them 1669 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:19,725 on that or what what does that 1670 00:52:19,725 --> 00:52:22,725 landscape of new laws require 1671 00:52:22,896 --> 00:52:23,563 them to report that there are 1672 00:52:23,563 --> 00:52:26,532 airbnb or short term rentals 1673 00:52:26,532 --> 00:52:27,166 happening in your city that are 1674 00:52:27,166 --> 00:52:27,499 being facilitated on their 1675 00:52:27,499 --> 00:52:29,499 website? 1676 00:52:31,437 --> 00:52:32,138 So airbnb vibro they don't 1677 00:52:32,138 --> 00:52:35,138 actually require them to remit 1678 00:52:35,341 --> 00:52:36,430 the tax to us. 1679 00:52:36,430 --> 00:52:38,677 The city collects the tax. 1680 00:52:38,677 --> 00:52:39,379 Okay I, I read that some cities 1681 00:52:39,379 --> 00:52:42,282 are collecting the majority of 1682 00:52:42,282 --> 00:52:42,982 their totty like through the 1683 00:52:42,982 --> 00:52:45,982 platforms you can collect them 1684 00:52:46,185 --> 00:52:49,185 through the platform the host 1685 00:52:49,989 --> 00:52:53,589 needs to needs to identify the 1686 00:52:54,260 --> 00:52:57,830 tax as part of the rental and 1687 00:52:57,830 --> 00:53:00,830 then the the individual the 1688 00:53:01,401 --> 00:53:02,235 renter if you will pays it. 1689 00:53:02,235 --> 00:53:02,936 I'm not exactly sure whether 1690 00:53:02,936 --> 00:53:05,936 the dollars are then remitted 1691 00:53:06,380 --> 00:53:06,706 directly to the city or they're 1692 00:53:06,706 --> 00:53:09,276 remitted to the to the owner 1693 00:53:09,276 --> 00:53:10,110 who then remits them to the 1694 00:53:10,110 --> 00:53:12,979 city because as you recall with 1695 00:53:12,979 --> 00:53:13,646 toti those are remitted to the 1696 00:53:13,646 --> 00:53:16,282 hotel operators and then the 1697 00:53:16,282 --> 00:53:17,830 hotel operators remit them to 1698 00:53:17,830 --> 00:53:17,383 the city on a on a periodic 1699 00:53:17,383 --> 00:53:19,383 basis. 1700 00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:20,487 I think the airbnb is operate 1701 00:53:20,487 --> 00:53:20,787 the same way. 1702 00:53:20,787 --> 00:53:22,787 Okay. 1703 00:53:24,558 --> 00:53:27,561 And I think I read there was a 1704 00:53:27,561 --> 00:53:28,461 city that had sort of passed 1705 00:53:28,461 --> 00:53:31,264 some sort f legislation or 1706 00:53:31,264 --> 00:53:31,898 ordinance locally that didn't 1707 00:53:31,898 --> 00:53:34,298 allow these platforms to 1708 00:53:35,769 --> 00:53:37,400 operate in their city unless 1709 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,307 they you know, helped with the 1710 00:53:40,307 --> 00:53:41,740 itot like portion f it 1711 00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:44,177 whatever that looks like that I 1712 00:53:44,177 --> 00:53:44,912 mean that MAY have been cracked 1713 00:53:44,912 --> 00:53:47,180 before but by state law they're 1714 00:53:47,180 --> 00:53:47,614 now requiring help. 1715 00:53:47,614 --> 00:53:47,981 Yes. 1716 00:53:47,981 --> 00:53:49,160 All right. 1717 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,216 And with with 80 use I have a 1718 00:53:53,387 --> 00:53:56,987 question about it use I believe 1719 00:53:57,558 --> 00:54:00,558 in 2020 we passed an ordinance 1720 00:54:01,729 --> 00:54:02,729 saying that there would be no 1721 00:54:02,729 --> 00:54:05,729 short erm rentals that 80 use 1722 00:54:06,433 --> 00:54:07,267 would we would no longer do 1723 00:54:07,267 --> 00:54:07,935 short term rentals only to use. 1724 00:54:07,935 --> 00:54:10,503 Is that is that accurate? 1725 00:54:10,503 --> 00:54:10,904 That is correct. 1726 00:54:10,904 --> 00:54:11,938 Okay. 1727 00:54:11,938 --> 00:54:14,241 So and that was based off of 1728 00:54:14,241 --> 00:54:14,641 state law. 1729 00:54:14,641 --> 00:54:15,442 Okay. 1730 00:54:15,442 --> 00:54:19,420 State law also allows us to 1731 00:54:19,146 --> 00:54:22,146 prohibit 80 use that were built 1732 00:54:22,149 --> 00:54:22,849 prior to that but that would be 1733 00:54:22,849 --> 00:54:25,849 a discretionary action on the 1734 00:54:26,153 --> 00:54:27,200 part of council. 1735 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:27,754 I understand that since that 1736 00:54:27,754 --> 00:54:30,324 that that law was passed at the 1737 00:54:30,324 --> 00:54:32,724 state level in 2020, there's 1738 00:54:33,460 --> 00:54:34,495 been some some manipulations of 1739 00:54:34,495 --> 00:54:38,320 it and that that might not 1740 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,734 necessarily apply to all to use 1741 00:54:40,734 --> 00:54:41,301 at this point after the year 1742 00:54:41,301 --> 00:54:43,701 2020 from a state law 1743 00:54:43,837 --> 00:54:44,672 standpoint, does our current is 1744 00:54:44,672 --> 00:54:48,272 that is that a an accurate 1745 00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:52,345 picture or do you believe that 1746 00:54:52,345 --> 00:54:52,913 100% unqualified all e we can 1747 00:54:52,913 --> 00:54:53,614 confirm that but my my 1748 00:54:53,614 --> 00:54:56,614 understanding of it right now 1749 00:54:56,917 --> 00:54:57,651 is that 80 use that are built 1750 00:54:57,651 --> 00:55:00,220 pursuant to the recent 82 state 1751 00:55:00,220 --> 00:55:00,954 laws are prohibited from being 1752 00:55:00,954 --> 00:55:03,570 used for short term rentals but 1753 00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:03,924 that that might be if they only 1754 00:55:03,924 --> 00:55:07,294 allowed that if they used the 1755 00:55:07,294 --> 00:55:08,262 law to build it so to speak 1756 00:55:08,262 --> 00:55:09,970 like I was just that's correct. 1757 00:55:09,970 --> 00:55:12,566 If they if they use if they 1758 00:55:12,566 --> 00:55:13,267 relied on the law for the 1759 00:55:13,267 --> 00:55:15,103 purposes of getting the 80 you 1760 00:55:15,103 --> 00:55:15,903 built which is the way or at 1761 00:55:15,903 --> 00:55:18,205 least most of the recent ones 1762 00:55:18,205 --> 00:55:19,600 have been built have been 1763 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,776 pursuant to the state laws 1764 00:55:21,776 --> 00:55:24,776 because they are there more 1765 00:55:26,460 --> 00:55:26,914 expedited and more streamlined 1766 00:55:26,914 --> 00:55:29,914 in their approval process than 1767 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:30,851 what we're historically local 1768 00:55:30,851 --> 00:55:31,252 zoning requirements associated 1769 00:55:31,252 --> 00:55:33,252 with 80 use. 1770 00:55:34,588 --> 00:55:35,256 So it's probably safe to assume 1771 00:55:35,256 --> 00:55:35,957 most people are using that. 1772 00:55:35,957 --> 00:55:38,392 But would we would it be wise 1773 00:55:38,392 --> 00:55:39,270 for us or or should we look at 1774 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:41,929 our ordinance and see that 1775 00:55:41,929 --> 00:55:42,730 maybe we should revise it to 1776 00:55:42,730 --> 00:55:45,130 say something like only 1777 00:55:45,866 --> 00:55:48,866 eligible short term rent or 1778 00:55:50,605 --> 00:55:51,272 eligible to use MAY be eligible 1779 00:55:51,272 --> 00:55:54,900 for so our current rate our 1780 00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:54,742 current ordinance I'm sorry 1781 00:55:54,742 --> 00:55:57,142 accordant our current ordinance 1782 00:55:58,913 --> 00:56:01,313 currently prohibits 80 use that 1783 00:56:01,483 --> 00:56:02,584 were constructed since that 1784 00:56:02,584 --> 00:56:05,386 since 2020 to be or to be used 1785 00:56:05,386 --> 00:56:06,287 as short term rentals. 1786 00:56:06,287 --> 00:56:09,190 So regardless of whether it is 1787 00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:09,891 following state law or whatever 1788 00:56:09,891 --> 00:56:13,461 so that could you know in the 1789 00:56:13,461 --> 00:56:14,620 case that you offer be 1790 00:56:14,620 --> 00:56:16,230 construed as being more 1791 00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:17,980 stringent merchants than maybe 1792 00:56:17,980 --> 00:56:17,665 just an opportunity to look at 1793 00:56:17,665 --> 00:56:19,665 eligibility for those? 1794 00:56:20,368 --> 00:56:21,402 Okay. 1795 00:56:21,402 --> 00:56:21,769 That's it for my my questions 1796 00:56:21,769 --> 00:56:23,769 right now. 1797 00:56:24,505 --> 00:56:24,772 thank you, mayor pro tem thank 1798 00:56:24,772 --> 00:56:26,772 you. 1799 00:56:27,509 --> 00:56:28,310 >> you asked a lot of mind but 1800 00:56:28,310 --> 00:56:31,310 just to clarify on the 1801 00:56:32,114 --> 00:56:32,848 collection of the total because 1802 00:56:32,848 --> 00:56:34,983 I had heard information I think 1803 00:56:34,983 --> 00:56:35,683 similar information to 1804 00:56:35,683 --> 00:56:38,830 councilmember devinney that it 1805 00:56:38,487 --> 00:56:42,687 was kind of more of an ottoman 1806 00:56:42,757 --> 00:56:43,458 automatic process that airbnb 1807 00:56:43,458 --> 00:56:46,458 would remit the territory to 1808 00:56:47,950 --> 00:56:47,896 the city but it sounds like 1809 00:56:47,896 --> 00:56:51,199 they they would inform us that 1810 00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:51,900 there's a registered board 1811 00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:54,570 short term rental on their 1812 00:56:54,570 --> 00:56:55,404 platform and then we would 1813 00:56:55,404 --> 00:56:59,400 still need to hire a consultant 1814 00:56:59,410 --> 00:57:02,478 like hdl to collect the total. 1815 00:57:02,478 --> 00:57:06,780 >> so maybe a different way of 1816 00:57:06,248 --> 00:57:06,982 explaining it is that these 1817 00:57:06,982 --> 00:57:09,382 certain platforms and certainly 1818 00:57:10,352 --> 00:57:11,152 the ones that are more 1819 00:57:11,152 --> 00:57:13,689 sophisticated like the rpo and 1820 00:57:13,689 --> 00:57:14,389 airbnb have an ability to 1821 00:57:14,389 --> 00:57:16,789 essentially do that accounting 1822 00:57:17,192 --> 00:57:18,160 feature with them so that you 1823 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,463 as a business owner are able to 1824 00:57:21,463 --> 00:57:24,666 track and then remit your you 1825 00:57:24,666 --> 00:57:25,367 know, business taxes and so 1826 00:57:25,367 --> 00:57:26,268 forth and keep track of your 1827 00:57:26,268 --> 00:57:28,804 income too so you can pay your 1828 00:57:28,804 --> 00:57:29,304 federal income taxes. 1829 00:57:29,304 --> 00:57:31,304 >> okay. 1830 00:57:32,641 --> 00:57:33,275 Maybe you know as we as the 1831 00:57:33,275 --> 00:57:33,909 conversation goes on maybe 1832 00:57:33,909 --> 00:57:35,909 that's something obviously 1833 00:57:36,512 --> 00:57:37,246 there's if there's way to 1834 00:57:37,246 --> 00:57:39,348 streamline the process further, 1835 00:57:39,348 --> 00:57:42,518 that would be good and then you 1836 00:57:42,518 --> 00:57:43,519 know, I'm curious in terms of 1837 00:57:43,519 --> 00:57:47,119 you know, from both egal and 1838 00:57:47,522 --> 00:57:48,323 planning perspectives, you 1839 00:57:48,323 --> 00:57:51,326 know, if we were to streamline 1840 00:57:51,326 --> 00:57:54,326 the process, would we still 1841 00:57:54,997 --> 00:57:55,798 have the enforcement ability if 1842 00:57:55,798 --> 00:57:59,201 if a business is operating once 1843 00:57:59,201 --> 00:58:01,804 or more times is a nuisance if 1844 00:58:01,804 --> 00:58:02,504 it was just a kind of a 1845 00:58:02,504 --> 00:58:04,904 business license type permit, 1846 00:58:06,108 --> 00:58:06,575 you know, to what extent could 1847 00:58:06,575 --> 00:58:08,575 we revoke that? 1848 00:58:10,446 --> 00:58:11,800 >> so I forgive me my 1849 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,480 colleagues that deal with 1850 00:58:13,616 --> 00:58:14,483 outdoor dining but that closest 1851 00:58:14,483 --> 00:58:15,251 analogy is that with an 1852 00:58:15,251 --> 00:58:18,153 operators permit and so it's 1853 00:58:18,153 --> 00:58:21,753 the it's very similar to you 1854 00:58:21,991 --> 00:58:25,495 know an aup or chp having been 1855 00:58:25,495 --> 00:58:26,329 required for alcohol and then 1856 00:58:26,329 --> 00:58:29,865 with outdoor dining and so that 1857 00:58:29,865 --> 00:58:30,400 those have you know rocesses 1858 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,400 associated with it. 1859 00:58:33,602 --> 00:58:34,336 But whenever we went over to 1860 00:58:34,336 --> 00:58:37,339 our outdoor dining there was an 1861 00:58:37,339 --> 00:58:38,241 operators permit that provided 1862 00:58:38,241 --> 00:58:41,241 very clear direction on here 1863 00:58:41,343 --> 00:58:42,144 are the norms etc. Here are the 1864 00:58:42,144 --> 00:58:42,979 things you need to comply with 1865 00:58:42,979 --> 00:58:45,915 and if you're in violation of 1866 00:58:45,915 --> 00:58:46,248 it this operators permit can be 1867 00:58:46,248 --> 00:58:48,248 pulled. 1868 00:58:49,486 --> 00:58:50,153 Same thing could be true and 1869 00:58:50,153 --> 00:58:53,322 the way that it operates in 1870 00:58:53,322 --> 00:58:54,123 other cities so that based off 1871 00:58:54,123 --> 00:58:57,226 of that versus going through a 1872 00:58:57,226 --> 00:59:00,226 more complex and lengthy and 1873 00:59:00,397 --> 00:59:01,300 legally costly process to pull 1874 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:01,364 a conditional use permit. 1875 00:59:01,364 --> 00:59:03,364 >> okay. 1876 00:59:04,533 --> 00:59:06,533 That's helpful. 1877 00:59:07,703 --> 00:59:08,404 And then in terms of the 170 or 1878 00:59:08,404 --> 00:59:10,804 190 folks that don't currently 1879 00:59:11,975 --> 00:59:12,676 have a permit but want to 1880 00:59:12,676 --> 00:59:15,645 continue to operate short term 1881 00:59:15,645 --> 00:59:18,645 rentals, what's staff's plan to 1882 00:59:18,881 --> 00:59:19,916 bring them into compliance? 1883 00:59:19,916 --> 00:59:20,583 >> well, our first plan was to 1884 00:59:20,583 --> 00:59:23,353 ask the question of council 1885 00:59:23,353 --> 00:59:24,153 policy direction on whether or 1886 00:59:24,153 --> 00:59:27,257 not you wanted to ban or 1887 00:59:27,257 --> 00:59:29,657 continue to allow it. 1888 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,561 So with that question once that 1889 00:59:31,561 --> 00:59:35,161 is answered then we can develop 1890 00:59:35,264 --> 00:59:35,998 a plan to be able to, you know, 1891 00:59:35,998 --> 00:59:38,998 follow policy direction so that 1892 00:59:39,903 --> 00:59:42,903 if you know if council's 1893 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,107 choices to continue on in the 1894 00:59:44,107 --> 00:59:47,107 the bed and breakfast model 1895 00:59:47,377 --> 00:59:48,211 then things would remain 1896 00:59:48,211 --> 00:59:51,515 largely the same for all the 1897 00:59:51,515 --> 00:59:52,515 same reasons if council instead 1898 00:59:52,515 --> 00:59:55,840 were to choose to go to more of 1899 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,840 an operators permit type of 1900 00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:59,589 program then we wouldn't need 1901 00:59:59,589 --> 01:00:00,390 to essentially stand up a 1902 01:00:00,390 --> 01:00:03,326 program much the way that the 1903 01:00:03,326 --> 01:00:04,127 outdoor dining program was 1904 01:00:04,127 --> 01:00:06,830 stood up and you know come up 1905 01:00:06,830 --> 01:00:09,830 with parameters and so forth 1906 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,135 and then bring that to council 1907 01:00:11,135 --> 01:00:13,937 ,you know, for adoption along 1908 01:00:13,937 --> 01:00:14,838 with the new ordinance. 1909 01:00:14,838 --> 01:00:18,420 And just finally, do we have 1910 01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:18,842 kind of any stimates of what 1911 01:00:18,842 --> 01:00:23,420 the cost and time would be to 1912 01:00:23,580 --> 01:00:24,140 obtain an operators permit or 1913 01:00:24,140 --> 01:00:25,150 no? 1914 01:00:25,150 --> 01:00:28,319 I we can certainly look into 1915 01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:31,888 that if that is council's will 1916 01:00:31,888 --> 01:00:32,489 to go to a different type of 1917 01:00:32,489 --> 01:00:33,323 regulation of short term 1918 01:00:33,323 --> 01:00:36,693 rentals but we didn't want to 1919 01:00:36,693 --> 01:00:39,429 get too far down the road and 1920 01:00:39,429 --> 01:00:39,830 presupposing councils will okay 1921 01:00:39,830 --> 01:00:41,830 thank you. 1922 01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:44,301 Thank you councilmember darling 1923 01:00:44,301 --> 01:00:44,901 thank you and thanks for the 1924 01:00:44,901 --> 01:00:45,710 presentation and all the 1925 01:00:45,710 --> 01:00:46,736 - 1926 01:00:46,736 --> 01:00:47,738 thought that's obviously gone 1927 01:00:47,738 --> 01:00:50,741 into I know in orinda the the 1928 01:00:50,741 --> 01:00:51,742 big impetus for their ordinance 1929 01:00:51,742 --> 01:00:54,742 was the party that went 1930 01:00:55,246 --> 01:00:55,980 horribly wrong up there. 1931 01:00:55,980 --> 01:00:58,980 What's been our experience with 1932 01:00:59,250 --> 01:00:59,850 calls for service from pd for 1933 01:00:59,850 --> 01:01:02,250 the short term rentals? 1934 01:01:02,886 --> 01:01:03,888 Have we had much of that here? 1935 01:01:03,888 --> 01:01:06,858 So it was much more prevalent 1936 01:01:06,858 --> 01:01:10,458 during covid less so now but 1937 01:01:11,295 --> 01:01:14,640 you know pd responds for that 1938 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,990 most of he types of feedback 1939 01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:15,766 we get about the short term 1940 01:01:15,766 --> 01:01:18,166 rentals are from neighbors. 1941 01:01:19,269 --> 01:01:22,106 Some of it might be you know on 1942 01:01:22,106 --> 01:01:23,600 noise related, some of it might 1943 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,344 be people not being able to 1944 01:01:26,344 --> 01:01:27,344 find their short term rental 1945 01:01:27,344 --> 01:01:30,247 late at night and so that and 1946 01:01:30,247 --> 01:01:31,281 knocking on the wrong door and 1947 01:01:31,281 --> 01:01:34,281 talking with pd that hasn't 1948 01:01:34,953 --> 01:01:35,653 been you know it calls for 1949 01:01:35,653 --> 01:01:37,956 service at short term rentals 1950 01:01:37,956 --> 01:01:40,956 hasn't been a significant you 1951 01:01:42,226 --> 01:01:42,560 know reason for calls for 1952 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,560 service. 1953 01:01:45,430 --> 01:01:46,263 >> okay that's good to know so 1954 01:01:46,263 --> 01:01:49,133 I know the bed and breakfast 1955 01:01:49,133 --> 01:01:49,967 ordinance limits it to within 1956 01:01:49,967 --> 01:01:52,537 500ft of an arterial or 1957 01:01:52,537 --> 01:01:53,370 collector street does that 1958 01:01:53,370 --> 01:01:55,770 effectively does that actually 1959 01:01:57,608 --> 01:01:58,275 does that make no never mind 1960 01:01:58,275 --> 01:02:00,845 when you're out there or is 1961 01:02:00,845 --> 01:02:01,646 that a relatively difficult 1962 01:02:01,646 --> 01:02:04,646 requirement to comply with just 1963 01:02:04,749 --> 01:02:05,416 thinking about keeping people 1964 01:02:05,416 --> 01:02:06,170 on the edge of neighborhoods 1965 01:02:06,170 --> 01:02:09,170 rather than deep into a 1966 01:02:12,523 --> 01:02:13,257 neighborhood so it I think you 1967 01:02:13,257 --> 01:02:15,327 know, it's just it's a criteria 1968 01:02:15,327 --> 01:02:16,160 in the someone would need to 1969 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,160 comply ith but there are 1970 01:02:20,532 --> 01:02:21,132 numerous homes that are on that 1971 01:02:21,132 --> 01:02:24,132 you know that meet that 1972 01:02:24,168 --> 01:02:27,768 criteria so as to whether or 1973 01:02:28,730 --> 01:02:28,706 not it helps or hurts and the 1974 01:02:28,706 --> 01:02:29,730 ability to operate that 1975 01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:31,730 business. 1976 01:02:31,876 --> 01:02:32,444 We haven't seen any evidence 1977 01:02:32,444 --> 01:02:32,777 one way or the other. 1978 01:02:32,777 --> 01:02:34,777 >> okay. 1979 01:02:36,130 --> 01:02:36,814 And then if we go through this 1980 01:02:36,814 --> 01:02:39,618 and come up I know when we 1981 01:02:39,618 --> 01:02:42,180 originally were working on 1982 01:02:42,688 --> 01:02:43,388 alcohol permits there was one 1983 01:02:43,388 --> 01:02:44,890 set of standards and if you're 1984 01:02:44,890 --> 01:02:46,425 willing to live with that you 1985 01:02:46,425 --> 01:02:47,920 could get the easy permit and 1986 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,828 if you really wanted to push 1987 01:02:49,828 --> 01:02:50,162 things you could get the hard 1988 01:02:50,162 --> 01:02:50,829 permit. 1989 01:02:50,829 --> 01:02:52,864 Could is something like that 1990 01:02:52,864 --> 01:02:54,650 possible here? 1991 01:02:54,650 --> 01:02:57,569 For example, if somebody is on 1992 01:02:57,569 --> 01:03:01,169 site limits people to you know, 1993 01:03:01,306 --> 01:03:04,410 a certain number they could get 1994 01:03:04,410 --> 01:03:05,444 a more easily acquired permit 1995 01:03:05,444 --> 01:03:08,346 but if they want to have a site 1996 01:03:08,346 --> 01:03:11,517 where hey can not be there, do 1997 01:03:11,517 --> 01:03:12,484 different things. 1998 01:03:12,484 --> 01:03:15,484 So that is definitely possible. 1999 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:16,388 There are examples of that in 2000 01:03:16,388 --> 01:03:16,788 the information provided in 2001 01:03:16,788 --> 01:03:18,788 your packet. 2002 01:03:19,791 --> 01:03:22,791 Usually those you know the 2003 01:03:23,128 --> 01:03:24,620 differences etc. You know it's 2004 01:03:24,620 --> 01:03:27,332 like here you have a permit 2005 01:03:27,332 --> 01:03:28,166 type of you know process and 2006 01:03:28,166 --> 01:03:31,436 then if you want to do 2007 01:03:31,436 --> 01:03:32,104 something different usually you 2008 01:03:32,104 --> 01:03:32,771 know they've mentioned it in 2009 01:03:32,771 --> 01:03:35,707 the context of having events 2010 01:03:35,707 --> 01:03:36,441 and hosting events and so forth 2011 01:03:36,441 --> 01:03:39,110 and that you you know, would go 2012 01:03:39,110 --> 01:03:39,878 through a separate process 2013 01:03:39,878 --> 01:03:42,878 getting a special event permit 2014 01:03:42,915 --> 01:03:43,849 as an example. 2015 01:03:43,849 --> 01:03:47,449 You know, we certainly in the 2016 01:03:47,453 --> 01:03:48,253 example that ou offered that 2017 01:03:48,253 --> 01:03:51,356 there's the potential to if you 2018 01:03:51,356 --> 01:03:52,191 want to have it hosted do it 2019 01:03:52,191 --> 01:03:52,824 one way if you want to have it 2020 01:03:52,824 --> 01:03:55,327 on the hosted then you go 2021 01:03:55,327 --> 01:03:55,995 through you know, presumably a 2022 01:03:55,995 --> 01:03:56,328 conditional use on process. 2023 01:03:56,328 --> 01:03:58,328 >> okay. 2024 01:03:59,864 --> 01:04:00,565 I would just add if I if I MAY, 2025 01:04:00,565 --> 01:04:01,267 you know a consideration along 2026 01:04:01,267 --> 01:04:03,201 those lines if we were to head 2027 01:04:03,201 --> 01:04:06,201 down that path is the 2028 01:04:06,605 --> 01:04:07,239 complexity in terms of the 2029 01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:09,239 application process and 2030 01:04:09,975 --> 01:04:10,776 explaining that rocess through 2031 01:04:10,776 --> 01:04:11,476 potential applicants and then 2032 01:04:11,476 --> 01:04:14,476 it does make enforcement more 2033 01:04:14,846 --> 01:04:15,580 complicated if we get a 2034 01:04:15,580 --> 01:04:16,282 complaint what's allowed or not 2035 01:04:16,282 --> 01:04:18,950 allowed having to know that by 2036 01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:19,785 address as compared to knowing 2037 01:04:19,785 --> 01:04:22,454 across the board what are the 2038 01:04:22,454 --> 01:04:23,255 standards. 2039 01:04:23,255 --> 01:04:23,989 So those would be some 2040 01:04:23,989 --> 01:04:26,910 tradeoffs and considerations if 2041 01:04:26,910 --> 01:04:27,326 we had a bifurcated approach. 2042 01:04:27,326 --> 01:04:29,795 Yeah, it's good to good to know 2043 01:04:29,795 --> 01:04:31,230 because it's okay. 2044 01:04:31,230 --> 01:04:34,333 And then if we were to do an 2045 01:04:34,333 --> 01:04:34,968 operator type permit, would 2046 01:04:34,968 --> 01:04:37,503 there still be notice for 2047 01:04:37,503 --> 01:04:40,503 neighbors to come and express 2048 01:04:40,773 --> 01:04:41,407 their opinion on it? 2049 01:04:41,407 --> 01:04:42,208 >> unclear. 2050 01:04:42,208 --> 01:04:45,440 And the reason why I say that 2051 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,440 it's unclear because there is 2052 01:04:49,281 --> 01:04:52,151 the in most of the examples 2053 01:04:52,151 --> 01:04:52,952 that are out there currently 2054 01:04:52,952 --> 01:04:55,952 it's done know through a 2055 01:04:56,256 --> 01:04:56,755 process that doesn't require 2056 01:04:56,755 --> 01:04:58,755 that notification. 2057 01:04:59,626 --> 01:05:02,260 It's more administrative trying 2058 01:05:04,970 --> 01:05:04,931 to insert that required meant 2059 01:05:04,931 --> 01:05:05,598 and there as a condition of 2060 01:05:05,598 --> 01:05:07,598 receiving an administrative 2061 01:05:08,301 --> 01:05:11,301 permit creates a whole other 2062 01:05:11,871 --> 01:05:12,605 set of things to consider which 2063 01:05:12,605 --> 01:05:14,673 we haven't thought through yet. 2064 01:05:14,673 --> 01:05:15,875 Okay. 2065 01:05:15,875 --> 01:05:18,945 >> and then as far as it sounds 2066 01:05:18,945 --> 01:05:21,681 like people kind of come and go 2067 01:05:21,681 --> 01:05:22,548 out of the business so have we 2068 01:05:22,548 --> 01:05:23,250 talked to any jurisdictions 2069 01:05:23,250 --> 01:05:26,319 that have a limit on how many 2070 01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:27,190 permits they issue in their 2071 01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:29,756 city and how is that work if 2072 01:05:29,756 --> 01:05:33,356 people are coming and going so 2073 01:05:34,327 --> 01:05:34,994 there are jurisdiction ones out 2074 01:05:34,994 --> 01:05:37,994 there typically in more you 2075 01:05:38,664 --> 01:05:41,664 know, along shores or highly 2076 01:05:42,135 --> 01:05:42,869 you know, tourism oriented that 2077 01:05:42,869 --> 01:05:45,269 have programs like that. 2078 01:05:45,939 --> 01:05:48,339 But our neighbors don't 2079 01:05:49,810 --> 01:05:50,744 tpically and so there would 2080 01:05:50,744 --> 01:05:54,344 need to be a justification as 2081 01:05:55,248 --> 01:05:55,816 to why or you know you have 100 2082 01:05:55,816 --> 01:05:57,350 groups or you're 101. 2083 01:05:57,350 --> 01:05:58,180 You can't come in but then 2084 01:05:58,180 --> 01:05:58,752 that's very difficult. 2085 01:05:58,752 --> 01:06:01,688 And as you know, our city 2086 01:06:01,688 --> 01:06:02,388 manager saying from an 2087 01:06:02,388 --> 01:06:04,388 enforcement standpoint because 2088 01:06:05,992 --> 01:06:06,692 you know, early discussion is 2089 01:06:06,692 --> 01:06:08,795 at 190 or is a 111. 2090 01:06:08,795 --> 01:06:09,663 Yeah. 2091 01:06:09,663 --> 01:06:12,630 And then last question. 2092 01:06:12,766 --> 01:06:15,766 You know, just thinking about 2093 01:06:16,370 --> 01:06:17,170 how we encourage compliance, 2094 01:06:17,170 --> 01:06:20,474 have we thought about an idea 2095 01:06:20,474 --> 01:06:23,243 where if you apply in the first 2096 01:06:23,243 --> 01:06:26,243 year of the program your 2097 01:06:26,814 --> 01:06:27,814 application fee is much less 2098 01:06:27,814 --> 01:06:31,151 but in out years have just some 2099 01:06:31,151 --> 01:06:34,921 way to get people to want to 2100 01:06:34,921 --> 01:06:35,389 come to see us upfront discount 2101 01:06:35,389 --> 01:06:37,389 yeah that's it. 2102 01:06:38,725 --> 01:06:42,396 So are you today again we were 2103 01:06:42,396 --> 01:06:43,960 first focusing on the you know 2104 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,960 the policy question is council 2105 01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:49,769 want to on diane or continue to 2106 01:06:49,769 --> 01:06:50,437 allow this use and then in 2107 01:06:50,437 --> 01:06:51,710 terms of perational kinds of 2108 01:06:51,710 --> 01:06:53,471 things like you're talking 2109 01:06:54,107 --> 01:06:54,808 about that would be a next step 2110 01:06:54,808 --> 01:06:57,377 in the process if council's 2111 01:06:57,377 --> 01:06:58,345 direction is to continue to 2112 01:06:58,345 --> 01:07:00,915 allow or use but to do it 2113 01:07:00,915 --> 01:07:01,181 differently than what we do 2114 01:07:01,181 --> 01:07:01,515 now. 2115 01:07:01,515 --> 01:07:03,515 >> okay. 2116 01:07:04,451 --> 01:07:04,952 Thank you, councilmember silva. 2117 01:07:04,952 --> 01:07:05,719 Thank you. 2118 01:07:05,719 --> 01:07:08,880 Thank you very much for all of 2119 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,688 this work and for the continued 2120 01:07:11,959 --> 01:07:14,959 patrol of some of our 2121 01:07:15,929 --> 01:07:17,164 interesting operators. 2122 01:07:17,164 --> 01:07:20,340 So let me start with c u p 2123 01:07:20,340 --> 01:07:20,901 versus operator permit. 2124 01:07:20,901 --> 01:07:23,901 I was on the planning 2125 01:07:24,271 --> 01:07:24,638 commission but it was a ong 2126 01:07:24,638 --> 01:07:25,472 time ago. 2127 01:07:25,472 --> 01:07:28,209 My recollection is the c u p 2128 01:07:28,209 --> 01:07:30,609 basically is more permanent 2129 01:07:31,378 --> 01:07:32,380 than an operator permit which 2130 01:07:32,380 --> 01:07:37,180 could be in fact you get it and 2131 01:07:38,252 --> 01:07:42,323 you get a renewed etc. So I can 2132 01:07:42,323 --> 01:07:42,990 answer this and how we're doing 2133 01:07:42,990 --> 01:07:46,590 it more recently so I'm not 2134 01:07:47,261 --> 01:07:47,895 going to step on our city 2135 01:07:47,895 --> 01:07:48,529 attorney's toes I promise 2136 01:07:48,529 --> 01:07:50,464 hassle the conditional use 2137 01:07:50,464 --> 01:07:51,131 permit typically runs with them 2138 01:07:51,131 --> 01:07:54,702 and however the way that we 2139 01:07:54,702 --> 01:07:55,403 have been working through the 2140 01:07:55,403 --> 01:07:58,500 process more recently is that 2141 01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:00,405 once that operator ceases 2142 01:08:01,576 --> 01:08:02,376 operations at that site then 2143 01:08:02,376 --> 01:08:04,776 the permit sunset that's 2144 01:08:06,448 --> 01:08:07,115 different as you had noted from 2145 01:08:07,115 --> 01:08:10,510 the operators permit type f 2146 01:08:10,510 --> 01:08:10,852 idea. 2147 01:08:10,852 --> 01:08:13,587 most of the examples out there 2148 01:08:13,587 --> 01:08:14,388 have an annual permit that gets 2149 01:08:14,388 --> 01:08:17,292 done on a calendar year basis 2150 01:08:17,292 --> 01:08:18,920 and that you have an incentive 2151 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,228 to come in early in the year as 2152 01:08:21,228 --> 01:08:22,290 opposed to later and that you 2153 01:08:22,290 --> 01:08:25,290 know everyone renews for that 2154 01:08:25,500 --> 01:08:29,100 particular year and so and it's 2155 01:08:29,904 --> 01:08:32,904 easier to both identify a 2156 01:08:33,407 --> 01:08:35,807 violation with the operators 2157 01:08:37,278 --> 01:08:38,790 permit than it is with the c, u 2158 01:08:38,790 --> 01:08:40,482 p and to address it from a 2159 01:08:40,482 --> 01:08:42,882 foresman standpoint because to 2160 01:08:44,953 --> 01:08:45,520 address he c p it has to also 2161 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,920 go through a planning 2162 01:08:48,556 --> 01:08:49,357 commission process as opposed 2163 01:08:49,357 --> 01:08:52,357 to you know, a more 2164 01:08:52,660 --> 01:08:53,294 administrative process that's 2165 01:08:53,294 --> 01:08:56,294 also you know, subject to 2166 01:08:56,498 --> 01:08:59,501 appeal etc. But it's a lot 2167 01:08:59,501 --> 01:09:02,501 easier when they have ermits. 2168 01:09:03,271 --> 01:09:05,340 So 111 1111 for no matter what 2169 01:09:05,340 --> 01:09:06,374 the number is. 2170 01:09:06,374 --> 01:09:09,277 One of the issues I think is 2171 01:09:09,277 --> 01:09:10,120 that some of the operators that 2172 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,412 are advertising on these 2173 01:09:13,682 --> 01:09:14,716 platforms you cannot tell where 2174 01:09:14,716 --> 01:09:15,517 where if they're in the city 2175 01:09:15,517 --> 01:09:17,719 limits or if they are in the 2176 01:09:17,719 --> 01:09:18,720 unincorporated city. 2177 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,723 How can we actually figure that 2178 01:09:21,723 --> 01:09:22,324 out? 2179 01:09:22,324 --> 01:09:24,324 Is there gas? 2180 01:09:24,660 --> 01:09:25,527 Is there do we have to make the 2181 01:09:25,527 --> 01:09:26,261 elections department do it to 2182 01:09:26,261 --> 01:09:29,640 figure out if that address is 2183 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,464 actually eligible to vote? 2184 01:09:32,834 --> 01:09:33,569 >> so the on the platforms 2185 01:09:33,569 --> 01:09:37,169 themselves it could be a little 2186 01:09:37,339 --> 01:09:38,730 bit ambiguous but once the city 2187 01:09:38,730 --> 01:09:41,477 has a specific address we have 2188 01:09:41,477 --> 01:09:42,277 gas capability is that and we 2189 01:09:42,277 --> 01:09:46,114 can find out you know is this 2190 01:09:46,114 --> 01:09:46,815 advertise housing as a city of 2191 01:09:46,815 --> 01:09:49,651 know within the city of walnut 2192 01:09:49,651 --> 01:09:50,385 creek but they're actually in 2193 01:09:50,385 --> 01:09:53,655 concord for example are they in 2194 01:09:53,655 --> 01:09:54,289 the city of walnut creek or are 2195 01:09:54,289 --> 01:09:54,723 they unincorporated contra 2196 01:09:54,723 --> 01:09:55,230 costa county? 2197 01:09:55,230 --> 01:09:57,230 okay. 2198 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,560 So 111 has hdl had an 2199 01:10:00,896 --> 01:10:01,630 opportunity to consider the 2200 01:10:01,630 --> 01:10:04,630 location related so we haven't 2201 01:10:04,667 --> 01:10:05,401 gone down that path yet. 2202 01:10:05,401 --> 01:10:08,103 And the reason why is because 2203 01:10:08,103 --> 01:10:08,837 we wanted to get policy 2204 01:10:08,837 --> 01:10:11,237 direction from council about 2205 01:10:12,307 --> 01:10:12,942 whether or not you wanted to 2206 01:10:12,942 --> 01:10:15,942 ban because that's one pathway 2207 01:10:15,977 --> 01:10:18,680 and one set of enforcements or 2208 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,451 do we go a different round is 2209 01:10:22,451 --> 01:10:23,151 the city are we allowed and I 2210 01:10:23,151 --> 01:10:23,885 noticed in looking at or even 2211 01:10:23,885 --> 01:10:26,188 in our bed and breakfast 2212 01:10:26,188 --> 01:10:29,658 ordinance now and looking at a 2213 01:10:29,658 --> 01:10:32,580 windows short term rental 2214 01:10:33,129 --> 01:10:35,529 ordinance proximity and consent 2215 01:10:37,990 --> 01:10:37,900 duration so 500ft from a major 2216 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:40,900 arterial or collector street is 2217 01:10:41,503 --> 01:10:42,304 location specific and then 2218 01:10:42,304 --> 01:10:42,971 there's the and you can't have 2219 01:10:42,971 --> 01:10:45,140 more than three and within a 2220 01:10:45,140 --> 01:10:45,941 certain distance because there 2221 01:10:45,941 --> 01:10:49,541 is a lot of concern about 2222 01:10:49,745 --> 01:10:51,745 oversaturation whether it's 2223 01:10:52,882 --> 01:10:55,282 adult care facilities, alcohol 2224 01:10:57,753 --> 01:10:58,788 sobering facility these and 2225 01:10:58,788 --> 01:11:02,988 this as well are we able to 2226 01:11:04,727 --> 01:11:05,727 specify that so we would look 2227 01:11:05,727 --> 01:11:08,831 into it further as a practical 2228 01:11:08,831 --> 01:11:11,831 matter we have many collector 2229 01:11:11,867 --> 01:11:15,338 streets so the 500ft or more is 2230 01:11:15,338 --> 01:11:18,408 not a huge delineate or of 2231 01:11:18,408 --> 01:11:19,208 exclusion or inclusion in terms 2232 01:11:19,208 --> 01:11:22,211 of looking at saturation and so 2233 01:11:22,211 --> 01:11:24,211 forth. 2234 01:11:26,820 --> 01:11:26,782 There are possibilities and we 2235 01:11:26,782 --> 01:11:29,782 have gas capabilities but then 2236 01:11:30,253 --> 01:11:33,253 the plot forms themselves and 2237 01:11:33,356 --> 01:11:34,223 the ability to sort of cycle in 2238 01:11:34,223 --> 01:11:36,760 and out because one day you 2239 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,760 know you have 190, another day 2240 01:11:40,430 --> 01:11:41,464 you have a 111 and so we need 2241 01:11:41,464 --> 01:11:44,968 to be we would need to be very 2242 01:11:44,968 --> 01:11:45,601 vigilant and also have a lot of 2243 01:11:45,601 --> 01:11:48,100 clarity about what the 2244 01:11:48,871 --> 01:11:49,538 parameters are that councils 2245 01:11:49,538 --> 01:11:52,275 are looking for in terms of 2246 01:11:52,275 --> 01:11:52,742 what that density looks like 2247 01:11:52,742 --> 01:11:54,742 under state law. 2248 01:11:56,712 --> 01:12:00,312 >> are we able to limit the 2249 01:12:02,718 --> 01:12:03,620 size or is it only specific to 2250 01:12:03,620 --> 01:12:04,354 80 use built after 2020 when 2251 01:12:04,354 --> 01:12:07,257 that law went into effect with 2252 01:12:07,257 --> 01:12:07,690 the concessions and the 2253 01:12:07,690 --> 01:12:09,690 streamlining? 2254 01:12:11,461 --> 01:12:14,230 So when you say size, could you 2255 01:12:14,230 --> 01:12:17,667 mean could we say you cannot 2256 01:12:17,667 --> 01:12:20,970 rent a home with five bedrooms 2257 01:12:20,970 --> 01:12:21,771 as a short term rental which is 2258 01:12:21,771 --> 01:12:24,741 more of a single family 2259 01:12:24,741 --> 01:12:26,741 neighborhood home? 2260 01:12:28,311 --> 01:12:29,450 I mean are you able to restrict 2261 01:12:29,450 --> 01:12:31,814 the size to something small 2262 01:12:31,814 --> 01:12:32,816 that would be considered larger 2263 01:12:32,816 --> 01:12:36,119 than a hotel room but maller 2264 01:12:36,119 --> 01:12:39,590 than a permanent home so that 2265 01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:40,290 there are examples of that and 2266 01:12:40,290 --> 01:12:43,290 certainly our current bed and 2267 01:12:43,293 --> 01:12:43,960 breakfast ordinance that has a 2268 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:44,594 maximum number of rooms and 2269 01:12:44,594 --> 01:12:47,594 number of people per room. 2270 01:12:47,764 --> 01:12:48,465 So I can't see why not. 2271 01:12:48,465 --> 01:12:51,101 >> you know the council has 2272 01:12:51,101 --> 01:12:51,668 pretty broad authority on 2273 01:12:51,668 --> 01:12:52,102 setting those types of 2274 01:12:52,102 --> 01:12:54,102 requirements. 2275 01:12:55,272 --> 01:12:55,972 You can ban them if you want to 2276 01:12:55,972 --> 01:12:58,642 and so anything that is short 2277 01:12:58,642 --> 01:12:59,443 of a ban is generally within 2278 01:12:59,443 --> 01:13:01,811 the authority of the of the 2279 01:13:01,811 --> 01:13:03,811 council. 2280 01:13:05,682 --> 01:13:06,316 I think that answers the 2281 01:13:06,316 --> 01:13:06,616 additional questions that 2282 01:13:06,616 --> 01:13:06,983 have. 2283 01:13:06,983 --> 01:13:08,983 Thank you. 2284 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,220 Thank you. 2285 01:13:10,220 --> 01:13:10,921 Oh, thank you. 2286 01:13:10,921 --> 01:13:11,554 And I think most of the 2287 01:13:11,554 --> 01:13:13,624 questions I had have been 2288 01:13:13,624 --> 01:13:14,124 answered one that I wanted to 2289 01:13:14,124 --> 01:13:16,524 check on with you. 2290 01:13:16,994 --> 01:13:17,795 I know that these are all 2291 01:13:17,795 --> 01:13:20,697 snapshots in time but do you 2292 01:13:20,697 --> 01:13:21,565 find that there are more short 2293 01:13:21,565 --> 01:13:22,232 term rentals that are available 2294 01:13:22,232 --> 01:13:24,632 downtown like in multifamily 2295 01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:27,435 housing versus outskirts of 2296 01:13:28,872 --> 01:13:30,872 neighborhoods at popcorn's 2297 01:13:31,741 --> 01:13:32,542 around and so sometimes if 2298 01:13:32,542 --> 01:13:35,542 there is a major event 2299 01:13:35,846 --> 01:13:36,647 happening in downtown there 2300 01:13:36,647 --> 01:13:40,500 will be a propensity to, you 2301 01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:40,750 know, rent out a short term 2302 01:13:40,750 --> 01:13:43,750 rental so that there's access 2303 01:13:44,255 --> 01:13:44,955 to leisure centered here and of 2304 01:13:44,955 --> 01:13:47,190 that and other times you know 2305 01:13:47,190 --> 01:13:47,958 there are weddings or other 2306 01:13:47,958 --> 01:13:48,659 things that are happening 2307 01:13:48,659 --> 01:13:51,659 elsewhere and so proximity to 2308 01:13:51,729 --> 01:13:55,199 how their farm or you know 2309 01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:55,499 other amenities etc. Are also 2310 01:13:55,499 --> 01:13:57,499 there. 2311 01:13:58,802 --> 01:13:59,803 So it it depends and there's 2312 01:13:59,803 --> 01:14:02,372 not a hard and fast rule about 2313 01:14:02,372 --> 01:14:04,372 where okay. 2314 01:14:06,176 --> 01:14:07,178 I would just add for context 2315 01:14:07,178 --> 01:14:07,778 and correct me if I'm wrong on 2316 01:14:07,778 --> 01:14:10,140 my housing units here ut 2317 01:14:10,140 --> 01:14:10,948 roughly speaking we have about 2318 01:14:10,948 --> 01:14:13,348 34,000 housing units in walnut 2319 01:14:13,818 --> 01:14:14,619 creek and we have somewhere 2320 01:14:14,619 --> 01:14:17,190 between 100 to 200 short term 2321 01:14:17,855 --> 01:14:18,222 rentals that we believe are 2322 01:14:18,222 --> 01:14:18,922 operating. 2323 01:14:18,922 --> 01:14:21,859 So on a percentage basis it's 2324 01:14:21,859 --> 01:14:22,860 very small. 2325 01:14:22,860 --> 01:14:24,695 We don't see a large cluster of 2326 01:14:24,695 --> 01:14:25,290 any in one particular area or 2327 01:14:25,290 --> 01:14:27,290 another. 2328 01:14:28,666 --> 01:14:29,567 It's a fairly dynamic situation 2329 01:14:29,567 --> 01:14:30,268 and given that it's a very 2330 01:14:30,268 --> 01:14:32,904 fluid platform and it allows 2331 01:14:32,904 --> 01:14:33,671 people that lexibility to rent 2332 01:14:33,671 --> 01:14:34,138 or not rent so it is kind of 2333 01:14:34,138 --> 01:14:36,138 bouncing around. 2334 01:14:36,941 --> 01:14:37,542 I don't think we have a high 2335 01:14:37,542 --> 01:14:39,877 concentration in any one 2336 01:14:39,877 --> 01:14:40,277 particular area of the city. 2337 01:14:40,277 --> 01:14:40,678 Okay. 2338 01:14:40,678 --> 01:14:41,512 Thank you. 2339 01:14:41,512 --> 01:14:43,882 I think that's my questions for 2340 01:14:43,882 --> 01:14:44,782 now. 2341 01:14:44,782 --> 01:14:45,717 >> mayor mayor, I wanted to 2342 01:14:45,717 --> 01:14:47,751 just follow up on one issue I 2343 01:14:47,751 --> 01:14:50,751 did check the airbnb website. 2344 01:14:51,255 --> 01:14:54,525 They do have the technology to 2345 01:14:54,525 --> 01:14:55,126 allow for directory maintenance 2346 01:14:55,126 --> 01:14:55,926 remains two cities. 2347 01:14:55,926 --> 01:14:59,330 it does require that they be 2348 01:14:59,330 --> 01:15:00,164 required through some mechanism 2349 01:15:00,164 --> 01:15:02,167 so we can check that further if 2350 01:15:02,167 --> 01:15:03,000 the council would like to see 2351 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:03,367 what kind of mechanism is 2352 01:15:03,367 --> 01:15:05,367 required. 2353 01:15:06,804 --> 01:15:07,806 I am aware that many cities 2354 01:15:07,806 --> 01:15:10,806 collect totti from short term 2355 01:15:10,874 --> 01:15:14,179 rentals in the same way they 2356 01:15:14,179 --> 01:15:14,913 collect totti from hotels that 2357 01:15:14,913 --> 01:15:15,613 is the property owner. 2358 01:15:15,613 --> 01:15:18,130 The business perator collects 2359 01:15:18,816 --> 01:15:19,517 it and then remits it. 2360 01:15:19,517 --> 01:15:21,620 But airbnb at least does have 2361 01:15:21,620 --> 01:15:21,853 that technology in their system 2362 01:15:21,853 --> 01:15:23,853 . 2363 01:15:25,690 --> 01:15:26,124 Thank you. 2364 01:15:26,124 --> 01:15:26,525 Great. 2365 01:15:26,525 --> 01:15:27,225 All right. 2366 01:15:27,225 --> 01:15:27,959 Well eric, I probably don't go 2367 01:15:27,959 --> 01:15:30,610 too far because I have some 2368 01:15:30,610 --> 01:15:30,828 more questions afterwards but 2369 01:15:30,828 --> 01:15:33,828 for right now we're bringing 2370 01:15:33,965 --> 01:15:34,632 this to the public and as any 2371 01:15:34,632 --> 01:15:35,333 member of the public wish to 2372 01:15:35,333 --> 01:15:38,202 provide public omment at this 2373 01:15:38,202 --> 01:15:38,837 time, please come forward or 2374 01:15:38,837 --> 01:15:40,905 use the raise hand feature 2375 01:15:40,905 --> 01:15:41,506 press star nine if you're 2376 01:15:41,506 --> 01:15:43,608 calling if you'd like to 2377 01:15:43,608 --> 01:15:44,609 provide remote public comment 2378 01:15:44,609 --> 01:15:47,412 if you are attending in person 2379 01:15:47,412 --> 01:15:48,346 please complete a speaker id 2380 01:15:48,346 --> 01:15:51,216 card line up behind the lectern 2381 01:15:51,216 --> 01:15:51,917 at this time and written 2382 01:15:51,917 --> 01:15:52,250 comments submitted have been 2383 01:15:52,250 --> 01:15:52,951 posted. 2384 01:15:52,951 --> 01:15:53,585 The city's website for public 2385 01:15:53,585 --> 01:15:56,880 review are included in the 2386 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:56,688 meeting record but will not be 2387 01:15:56,688 --> 01:15:57,220 separately read into the 2388 01:15:57,220 --> 01:15:59,220 record. 2389 01:15:59,758 --> 01:16:00,492 Each speaker will have two 2390 01:16:00,492 --> 01:16:01,226 minutes to make the remarks and 2391 01:16:01,226 --> 01:16:03,128 all remarks should be addressed 2392 01:16:03,128 --> 01:16:06,198 to the city council and at this 2393 01:16:06,198 --> 01:16:06,598 time we'll take public comment 2394 01:16:06,598 --> 01:16:07,165 . 2395 01:16:07,165 --> 01:16:09,165 Good evening everyone. 2396 01:16:10,302 --> 01:16:11,336 Thank you. 2397 01:16:11,336 --> 01:16:15,536 my name is lisa blanco and I 2398 01:16:17,376 --> 01:16:20,976 live in the woodlands and oh 2399 01:16:20,979 --> 01:16:25,250 boy this is kind of I could see 2400 01:16:25,250 --> 01:16:29,450 the bit of the rat's nest this 2401 01:16:29,521 --> 01:16:33,591 is because as a resident I feel 2402 01:16:33,591 --> 01:16:34,226 that resident social zones 2403 01:16:34,226 --> 01:16:36,626 should be for esidents 2404 01:16:37,362 --> 01:16:37,996 mid-term long term residents 2405 01:16:37,996 --> 01:16:41,000 and and not rent it out. 2406 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,000 On the other hand they're 2407 01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:45,737 happening anyway and is the 2408 01:16:45,737 --> 01:16:48,737 city benefiting from that in 2409 01:16:48,774 --> 01:16:51,810 any way through totty or what 2410 01:16:51,810 --> 01:16:53,810 have you? 2411 01:16:56,315 --> 01:17:00,515 And I think I think as a 2412 01:17:02,621 --> 01:17:02,856 resident I don't care for them 2413 01:17:02,856 --> 01:17:03,823 . 2414 01:17:03,823 --> 01:17:07,920 Call me lisa nimby blanco if 2415 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,796 you want and I don't think that 2416 01:17:10,796 --> 01:17:13,766 they add to a neighborhood they 2417 01:17:13,766 --> 01:17:16,166 take away from them. 2418 01:17:18,170 --> 01:17:22,370 >> but I do see the ee he 2419 01:17:25,770 --> 01:17:29,277 point of coming up with a maybe 2420 01:17:29,348 --> 01:17:33,185 a better policy for these and I 2421 01:17:33,185 --> 01:17:36,785 think a couple of things who 2422 01:17:37,457 --> 01:17:39,857 are that neighbors residents 2423 01:17:41,527 --> 01:17:43,927 actually residents should be 2424 01:17:45,598 --> 01:17:49,198 involved for our input and then 2425 01:17:49,469 --> 01:17:52,538 also that I know that the 2426 01:17:52,538 --> 01:17:54,938 surrounding areas pretty much 2427 01:17:56,175 --> 01:17:59,712 don't allow them and that at 2428 01:17:59,712 --> 01:18:03,312 least one of them the owners 2429 01:18:03,549 --> 01:18:06,549 have to conduct the stairs. 2430 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:07,754 So anyway, that's it. 2431 01:18:07,754 --> 01:18:09,822 >> thank you ery much. 2432 01:18:09,822 --> 01:18:11,822 Thank you. 2433 01:18:13,893 --> 01:18:15,893 Next speaker please. 2434 01:18:17,864 --> 01:18:18,831 My name is pamela trail. 2435 01:18:18,831 --> 01:18:22,200 I live in the woodlands also. 2436 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:22,868 Oh, sorry. 2437 01:18:22,868 --> 01:18:25,739 >> my name is pamela traill. 2438 01:18:25,739 --> 01:18:26,573 I live in the woodlands also I 2439 01:18:26,573 --> 01:18:29,573 agree with lisa's point the 2440 01:18:29,642 --> 01:18:30,420 city is not benefiting 2441 01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:32,420 financially. 2442 01:18:33,246 --> 01:18:36,246 Tey seem reluctant to collect 2443 01:18:36,883 --> 01:18:39,883 any fees for people who 2444 01:18:40,353 --> 01:18:42,753 continuously violate in the 2445 01:18:44,424 --> 01:18:45,225 face of the rules and I don't 2446 01:18:45,225 --> 01:18:48,225 think they belong in the 2447 01:18:48,929 --> 01:18:51,929 residence and for the last 2448 01:18:52,366 --> 01:18:55,366 public meeting that took place 2449 01:18:55,568 --> 01:18:56,436 very this issue there was only 2450 01:18:56,436 --> 01:18:59,572 three days notice given to the 2451 01:18:59,572 --> 01:19:02,572 public for their comments and 2452 01:19:03,143 --> 01:19:03,944 that's not enough time for 2453 01:19:03,944 --> 01:19:06,344 people to contribute their 2454 01:19:08,448 --> 01:19:12,480 thoughts and I think the zoning 2455 01:19:12,452 --> 01:19:15,122 should all and ermits should 2456 01:19:15,122 --> 01:19:19,192 be done by us sites by site and 2457 01:19:19,192 --> 01:19:19,792 in consideration it should be 2458 01:19:19,792 --> 01:19:22,792 looked at if there is 2459 01:19:22,896 --> 01:19:23,697 elementary schools nearby or 2460 01:19:23,697 --> 01:19:26,697 daycares or places where young 2461 01:19:26,866 --> 01:19:27,467 people gather in our 2462 01:19:27,467 --> 01:19:29,467 neighborhood there's an 2463 01:19:30,771 --> 01:19:31,572 elementary and a daycare two 2464 01:19:31,572 --> 01:19:34,508 blocks away and that was not 2465 01:19:34,508 --> 01:19:35,108 mentioned in the last council 2466 01:19:35,108 --> 01:19:37,108 meeting. 2467 01:19:38,379 --> 01:19:39,460 There needs to be some kind of 2468 01:19:39,460 --> 01:19:42,460 a background check for the 2469 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:43,716 safety and community of the 2470 01:19:43,716 --> 01:19:46,116 public and who's responsible 2471 01:19:46,787 --> 01:19:49,787 for this background check and 2472 01:19:49,857 --> 01:19:50,658 who do these checks include in 2473 01:19:50,658 --> 01:19:53,658 the council decisions should be 2474 01:19:54,328 --> 01:19:57,328 respectful of the people who 2475 01:19:57,331 --> 01:19:58,132 elected them and permits should 2476 01:19:58,132 --> 01:20:01,132 not be given to repeat 2477 01:20:01,334 --> 01:20:01,969 offenders and action should be 2478 01:20:01,969 --> 01:20:04,369 taken against their repeat 2479 01:20:05,105 --> 01:20:08,105 offenders and my comment is 2480 01:20:09,443 --> 01:20:10,177 specifically directed to you in 2481 01:20:10,177 --> 01:20:13,180 the end of the last meeting 2482 01:20:13,180 --> 01:20:15,580 regarding hector crouse giving 2483 01:20:17,500 --> 01:20:17,918 him a lifeline maybe he could 2484 01:20:17,918 --> 01:20:20,955 get a ermit when he continues 2485 01:20:20,955 --> 01:20:21,789 to violate this week. 2486 01:20:21,789 --> 01:20:24,189 >> thank you MR. Trail. 2487 01:20:30,564 --> 01:20:31,310 Next speaker please. 2488 01:20:31,310 --> 01:20:31,665 >> hi. 2489 01:20:31,665 --> 01:20:34,650 Jan warren the woodlands. 2490 01:20:34,968 --> 01:20:35,269 It's hard for me to read my 2491 01:20:35,269 --> 01:20:37,269 notes. 2492 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:38,573 I do appreciate this topic 2493 01:20:38,573 --> 01:20:40,573 being brought up. 2494 01:20:41,576 --> 01:20:42,543 I think it was time passed time 2495 01:20:42,543 --> 01:20:43,243 for us to look at what's 2496 01:20:43,243 --> 01:20:46,470 happening in the world today, 2497 01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:46,747 how things are being used that 2498 01:20:46,747 --> 01:20:49,747 people don't use their housing 2499 01:20:50,500 --> 01:20:50,484 or cars or anything else like 2500 01:20:50,484 --> 01:20:52,484 they used to. 2501 01:20:54,188 --> 01:20:54,889 So it would seem like if you 2502 01:20:54,889 --> 01:20:57,458 had a more reasonable process 2503 01:20:57,458 --> 01:20:58,693 more people would comply. 2504 01:20:58,693 --> 01:21:03,493 I think it should be set up so 2505 01:21:04,432 --> 01:21:05,666 the the remittance is included. 2506 01:21:05,666 --> 01:21:08,836 I mean anything we do we go 2507 01:21:08,836 --> 01:21:09,570 like you rent a car, you know, 2508 01:21:09,570 --> 01:21:12,106 you got a whole line of things. 2509 01:21:12,106 --> 01:21:15,677 I just got to selling things 2510 01:21:15,677 --> 01:21:16,711 for a acation and then I'm 2511 01:21:16,711 --> 01:21:19,814 always tell you all of them but 2512 01:21:19,814 --> 01:21:23,818 you pay for them so my question 2513 01:21:23,818 --> 01:21:24,619 my thought also has to do with 2514 01:21:24,619 --> 01:21:27,190 what happens in hoa. 2515 01:21:27,922 --> 01:21:28,723 A lot of people have hoa is I 2516 01:21:28,723 --> 01:21:32,127 don't know if that matters or 2517 01:21:32,127 --> 01:21:35,290 not and it seems to me that 2518 01:21:35,290 --> 01:21:35,931 whether it's a neighborhood or 2519 01:21:35,931 --> 01:21:36,598 ,you know, a high rise, we're 2520 01:21:36,598 --> 01:21:38,966 building a lot more housing 2521 01:21:38,966 --> 01:21:39,934 that's high rise. 2522 01:21:39,934 --> 01:21:40,602 So I don't think you should 2523 01:21:40,602 --> 01:21:42,703 discriminate from one or the 2524 01:21:42,703 --> 01:21:43,705 other if they have something 2525 01:21:43,705 --> 01:21:44,372 that they want to rent and 2526 01:21:44,372 --> 01:21:46,772 they're following the rules, 2527 01:21:47,142 --> 01:21:47,809 you know, maybe they're young 2528 01:21:47,809 --> 01:21:48,309 and need some extra cash to 2529 01:21:48,309 --> 01:21:50,309 meet their bills. 2530 01:21:50,545 --> 01:21:51,746 Who knows? 2531 01:21:51,746 --> 01:21:54,549 But at any rate, I do think we 2532 01:21:54,549 --> 01:21:57,385 ought to continue to explore it 2533 01:21:57,385 --> 01:21:57,653 and see how we can improve on 2534 01:21:57,653 --> 01:21:59,653 it. 2535 01:22:01,189 --> 01:22:01,456 Um and thanks for looking at 2536 01:22:01,456 --> 01:22:01,823 it. 2537 01:22:01,823 --> 01:22:03,823 Thank you. 2538 01:22:04,326 --> 01:22:05,360 Jan? 2539 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,529 Looks like we have no more in 2540 01:22:08,529 --> 01:22:09,164 person public comments we have 2541 01:22:09,164 --> 01:22:09,865 any comments on the line? 2542 01:22:09,865 --> 01:22:11,933 We have no one on two. 2543 01:22:11,933 --> 01:22:12,801 Okay. 2544 01:22:12,801 --> 01:22:13,434 So we will close public 2545 01:22:13,434 --> 01:22:15,770 comment, bring it back to 2546 01:22:15,770 --> 01:22:16,471 council for any further 2547 01:22:16,471 --> 01:22:19,471 questions or comments and let 2548 01:22:22,410 --> 01:22:23,245 me just ask erica it looks like 2549 01:22:23,245 --> 01:22:23,878 you're looking for some 2550 01:22:23,878 --> 01:22:25,878 specific policy direction 2551 01:22:26,748 --> 01:22:29,148 requested short term rental 2552 01:22:30,519 --> 01:22:31,520 should they be allowed at all? 2553 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,823 How how regulated and then if 2554 01:22:34,823 --> 01:22:35,490 it should go to planning 2555 01:22:35,490 --> 01:22:36,192 commission and community for 2556 01:22:36,192 --> 01:22:38,592 discussions before coming back 2557 01:22:38,860 --> 01:22:39,195 to council for a policy? 2558 01:22:39,195 --> 01:22:41,195 Correct. 2559 01:22:41,363 --> 01:22:44,633 So the very first question is a 2560 01:22:44,633 --> 01:22:45,534 yes or no one and then if yes 2561 01:22:45,534 --> 01:22:45,901 then and then if right then 2562 01:22:45,901 --> 01:22:47,901 it's okay. 2563 01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:48,704 So yes, there were two 2564 01:22:48,704 --> 01:22:50,739 questions that were asked from 2565 01:22:50,739 --> 01:22:51,173 the public could I get answers 2566 01:22:51,173 --> 01:22:53,173 to those? 2567 01:22:54,242 --> 01:22:54,910 And the first is how was the 2568 01:22:54,910 --> 01:22:57,910 last hearing noticed and the 2569 01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:58,981 hearing that was in front of 2570 01:22:58,981 --> 01:23:01,981 the planning commission and so 2571 01:23:02,584 --> 01:23:03,452 the hearing was noticed in 2572 01:23:03,452 --> 01:23:06,588 multiple ways is noticed in the 2573 01:23:06,588 --> 01:23:07,256 newspaper is notice through all 2574 01:23:07,256 --> 01:23:09,558 the standard options and so 2575 01:23:09,558 --> 01:23:10,292 forth we had gotten 2576 01:23:10,292 --> 01:23:12,292 notification though from 2577 01:23:14,463 --> 01:23:15,364 neighbors that the notification 2578 01:23:15,364 --> 01:23:15,865 and the notice that had been 2579 01:23:15,865 --> 01:23:16,499 posted and we have 2580 01:23:16,499 --> 01:23:18,899 documentation of it being 2581 01:23:19,502 --> 01:23:23,102 posted on the on the property 2582 01:23:23,105 --> 01:23:23,772 and then also on you know, 2583 01:23:23,772 --> 01:23:26,642 nearby lamps have been taken 2584 01:23:26,642 --> 01:23:29,511 down as soon as we receive that 2585 01:23:29,511 --> 01:23:32,511 notification we posted it to 2586 01:23:33,783 --> 01:23:34,483 this did homeowners or property 2587 01:23:34,483 --> 01:23:37,483 owners a certain distance from 2588 01:23:37,787 --> 01:23:38,420 the property receive postcards 2589 01:23:38,420 --> 01:23:39,221 or mailed notices? 2590 01:23:39,221 --> 01:23:42,221 So this followed all the 2591 01:23:42,925 --> 01:23:43,592 standard notices and so yes. 2592 01:23:43,592 --> 01:23:46,129 So could you reiterate what 2593 01:23:46,129 --> 01:23:46,962 those are or maybe the attorney 2594 01:23:46,962 --> 01:23:50,466 can only because the public is 2595 01:23:50,466 --> 01:23:51,167 wondering if they MAY not have 2596 01:23:51,167 --> 01:23:54,167 been within the distance zone 2597 01:23:54,436 --> 01:23:55,471 diversity of a postcard. 2598 01:23:55,471 --> 01:23:57,373 >> did you want to take us 2599 01:23:57,373 --> 01:23:57,873 deeper? 2600 01:23:57,873 --> 01:23:59,873 >> okay. 2601 01:24:00,876 --> 01:24:01,477 So essentially, you know, 2602 01:24:01,477 --> 01:24:02,245 postcards were sent out. 2603 01:24:02,245 --> 01:24:04,881 It was on the city's website. 2604 01:24:04,881 --> 01:24:05,815 It was sent out in the you 2605 01:24:05,815 --> 01:24:06,515 know, all the notifications in 2606 01:24:06,515 --> 01:24:09,185 terms of the newspaper and so 2607 01:24:09,185 --> 01:24:12,220 on so that all of our standard 2608 01:24:12,220 --> 01:24:13,220 processes were put into place. 2609 01:24:13,220 --> 01:24:16,220 And so in addition they're 2610 01:24:16,558 --> 01:24:20,196 posted on the on the on the 2611 01:24:20,196 --> 01:24:21,300 residents the site and then 2612 01:24:21,300 --> 01:24:21,564 they were also posted on 2613 01:24:21,564 --> 01:24:23,564 lampposts, you know, 2614 01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:24,400 streetlights etc. That were 2615 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,400 there. 2616 01:24:27,304 --> 01:24:28,104 So we were very diligent in 2617 01:24:28,104 --> 01:24:31,104 posting that with all the 2618 01:24:31,808 --> 01:24:32,442 required postings and how many 2619 01:24:32,442 --> 01:24:32,842 days prior is our posting 2620 01:24:32,842 --> 01:24:34,842 requirement? 2621 01:24:35,212 --> 01:24:36,450 >> oh that's like a pop quiz. 2622 01:24:36,450 --> 01:24:38,445 >> she's she's waving her 2623 01:24:39,849 --> 01:24:40,216 fingers at you so tenders yeah 2624 01:24:40,216 --> 01:24:42,216 thank you. 2625 01:24:42,218 --> 01:24:45,218 I can count that high. 2626 01:24:46,423 --> 01:24:49,693 Okay my other question is what 2627 01:24:49,693 --> 01:24:50,693 are we doing with regard to the 2628 01:24:50,693 --> 01:24:53,963 the one that we disallowed we 2629 01:24:53,963 --> 01:24:56,963 upheld the we upheld the 2630 01:24:57,267 --> 01:24:58,201 planning commission decision. 2631 01:24:58,201 --> 01:24:58,935 Are they still operating and 2632 01:24:58,935 --> 01:25:01,604 what is what is the enforcement 2633 01:25:01,604 --> 01:25:01,938 mechanism that we have under 2634 01:25:01,938 --> 01:25:03,938 the law? 2635 01:25:05,108 --> 01:25:05,709 >> so we were notified of a 2636 01:25:05,709 --> 01:25:08,109 potential short term use 2637 01:25:09,279 --> 01:25:10,113 occurring most recently I 2638 01:25:10,113 --> 01:25:13,713 myself went out and posted a 2639 01:25:13,984 --> 01:25:14,617 notice violation at the site 2640 01:25:14,617 --> 01:25:17,421 and there's an active code 2641 01:25:17,421 --> 01:25:18,421 enforcement case occurring. 2642 01:25:18,421 --> 01:25:21,525 So what does what under the law 2643 01:25:21,525 --> 01:25:22,326 are we allowed to do to that? 2644 01:25:22,326 --> 01:25:24,895 I mean can we lock the door? 2645 01:25:24,895 --> 01:25:29,950 Can we what are know we would 2646 01:25:29,666 --> 01:25:30,400 have to so we would first do as 2647 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,902 erica did you would post it and 2648 01:25:32,902 --> 01:25:33,303 try to get voluntary 2649 01:25:33,303 --> 01:25:33,971 compliance. 2650 01:25:33,971 --> 01:25:34,672 >> if we don't get voluntary 2651 01:25:34,672 --> 01:25:37,274 compliance to it then we would 2652 01:25:37,274 --> 01:25:37,708 have to get a court order to 2653 01:25:37,708 --> 01:25:39,708 shut it down. 2654 01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:41,745 >> so that's going to be a 2655 01:25:41,745 --> 01:25:43,814 multi-month process that can be 2656 01:25:43,814 --> 01:25:44,681 faster on an expedited basis 2657 01:25:44,681 --> 01:25:47,718 when there's a violation of a 2658 01:25:47,718 --> 01:25:48,418 of a of a land use regulation 2659 01:25:48,418 --> 01:25:51,321 of this sort when they're just 2660 01:25:51,321 --> 01:25:52,289 operating without any ermits 2661 01:25:52,289 --> 01:25:53,257 you can go in on short notice 2662 01:25:53,257 --> 01:25:55,893 to try to get a court to issue 2663 01:25:55,893 --> 01:25:56,593 at least an interim order 2664 01:25:56,593 --> 01:25:59,229 stopping that type of activity 2665 01:25:59,229 --> 01:25:59,596 which which we will do if 2666 01:25:59,596 --> 01:26:00,330 necessary. 2667 01:26:00,330 --> 01:26:03,367 >> so so it is an active case. 2668 01:26:03,367 --> 01:26:03,868 It is an active code 2669 01:26:03,868 --> 01:26:05,868 enforcement case. 2670 01:26:07,704 --> 01:26:08,406 >> thank ou so well as long as 2671 01:26:08,406 --> 01:26:09,106 we're with you, councilmember 2672 01:26:09,106 --> 01:26:11,575 silva, any further comments or 2673 01:26:11,575 --> 01:26:12,542 maybe just if we ant to be 2674 01:26:12,542 --> 01:26:15,679 able to go down and answer the 2675 01:26:15,679 --> 01:26:16,247 questions do you have these the 2676 01:26:16,247 --> 01:26:17,881 questions for us of he 2677 01:26:17,881 --> 01:26:18,416 questions right there? 2678 01:26:18,416 --> 01:26:19,116 All right. 2679 01:26:19,116 --> 01:26:19,550 I think we should allow short 2680 01:26:19,550 --> 01:26:21,550 term rentals. 2681 01:26:22,419 --> 01:26:26,423 We have they're in use in very 2682 01:26:26,423 --> 01:26:29,793 good ways for people to be able 2683 01:26:29,793 --> 01:26:30,828 to supplement their income to 2684 01:26:30,828 --> 01:26:33,530 be able to rent a small room. 2685 01:26:33,530 --> 01:26:34,165 My husband and I were in 2686 01:26:34,165 --> 01:26:36,165 seattle last weekend. 2687 01:26:37,634 --> 01:26:38,435 Hotels were unavailable due to 2688 01:26:38,435 --> 01:26:42,350 a bridge being rebuilt and so 2689 01:26:42,105 --> 01:26:44,709 in order to be within blocks of 2690 01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:45,609 our children we rented a short 2691 01:26:45,609 --> 01:26:46,144 term rental that was in the 2692 01:26:46,144 --> 01:26:48,544 basement of a house. 2693 01:26:48,846 --> 01:26:49,814 It was lovely. 2694 01:26:49,814 --> 01:26:50,481 It was not what someone would 2695 01:26:50,481 --> 01:26:53,618 rent for a long term basis 2696 01:26:53,618 --> 01:26:54,318 because it had a studio style 2697 01:26:54,318 --> 01:26:56,821 kitchen and a very tiny 2698 01:26:56,821 --> 01:26:57,921 bathroom. 2699 01:26:57,921 --> 01:27:00,992 It as all very nice but it was 2700 01:27:00,992 --> 01:27:04,429 not in lieu of them renting it 2701 01:27:04,429 --> 01:27:06,429 for permanent tenant. 2702 01:27:07,310 --> 01:27:10,631 I think the bed and breakfast 2703 01:27:11,702 --> 01:27:12,370 ordinance has has run its 2704 01:27:12,370 --> 01:27:12,704 course. 2705 01:27:12,704 --> 01:27:16,400 A bed and breakfast is a 2706 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:16,307 different type of commercial 2707 01:27:16,307 --> 01:27:16,875 law. 2708 01:27:16,875 --> 01:27:19,275 It's a more commercial 2709 01:27:19,543 --> 01:27:20,344 operation and it's and I think 2710 01:27:20,344 --> 01:27:22,580 we need to have a short term 2711 01:27:22,580 --> 01:27:26,180 rental ordinance so that we can 2712 01:27:26,650 --> 01:27:27,585 make it clearer and easier to 2713 01:27:27,585 --> 01:27:30,855 implement and I think we should 2714 01:27:30,855 --> 01:27:31,555 use a user permit not 2715 01:27:31,555 --> 01:27:33,955 conditional use permit unless 2716 01:27:34,158 --> 01:27:35,193 for some reason they're asking 2717 01:27:35,193 --> 01:27:37,962 for things that we want to have 2718 01:27:37,962 --> 01:27:38,996 more stringent permitting on. 2719 01:27:38,996 --> 01:27:42,100 And finally I'll mention that I 2720 01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:45,369 think for a variety of reasons 2721 01:27:45,369 --> 01:27:48,969 these need to be owner occupied 2722 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:50,108 or host occupied because if you 2723 01:27:50,108 --> 01:27:53,478 rent a room in a hotel there is 2724 01:27:53,478 --> 01:27:53,778 someone there managing at 24 by 2725 01:27:53,778 --> 01:27:54,378 seven. 2726 01:27:54,378 --> 01:27:55,112 So for the safety of the 2727 01:27:55,112 --> 01:27:56,848 visitor and the safety of the 2728 01:27:56,848 --> 01:27:57,549 neighborhood and the safety of 2729 01:27:57,549 --> 01:27:59,949 the property, there's someone 2730 01:28:00,585 --> 01:28:01,619 monitoring it. 2731 01:28:01,619 --> 01:28:04,423 When we were in the short term 2732 01:28:04,423 --> 01:28:05,157 rental in seattle last weekend 2733 01:28:05,157 --> 01:28:08,126 the family was living upstairs. 2734 01:28:08,126 --> 01:28:08,827 I could hear them kind of 2735 01:28:08,827 --> 01:28:09,127 walking around every once in a 2736 01:28:09,127 --> 01:28:11,127 while. 2737 01:28:11,863 --> 01:28:12,564 We weren't but t was good to 2738 01:28:12,564 --> 01:28:15,200 know that because it was good 2739 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:15,901 to know that somebody was 2740 01:28:15,901 --> 01:28:19,400 available to tell us if there 2741 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:19,537 was a plumbing problem or 2742 01:28:19,537 --> 01:28:21,537 something like that. 2743 01:28:22,107 --> 01:28:22,907 But I also think that without 2744 01:28:22,907 --> 01:28:23,575 the orinda issue happened 2745 01:28:23,575 --> 01:28:26,812 because the owner was not on 2746 01:28:26,812 --> 01:28:29,812 property or anywhere near the 2747 01:28:30,315 --> 01:28:30,916 property and so but how would 2748 01:28:30,916 --> 01:28:33,718 that work if it were a 2749 01:28:33,718 --> 01:28:36,718 multifamily housing if it were 2750 01:28:36,822 --> 01:28:37,822 if it were something in the 2751 01:28:37,822 --> 01:28:40,758 lyric or one of the places that 2752 01:28:40,758 --> 01:28:41,493 it's a one bedroom or two but 2753 01:28:41,493 --> 01:28:42,228 we want to run you want to know 2754 01:28:42,228 --> 01:28:43,161 how the ob was doing it because 2755 01:28:43,161 --> 01:28:43,895 there was a new apartment 2756 01:28:43,895 --> 01:28:46,164 building that wasn't filling up 2757 01:28:46,164 --> 01:28:49,164 fast enough about five years 2758 01:28:49,335 --> 01:28:49,734 ago and we were finding rentals 2759 01:28:49,734 --> 01:28:50,402 . 2760 01:28:50,402 --> 01:28:52,737 But there's management in an 2761 01:28:52,737 --> 01:28:53,538 apartment building not in a 2762 01:28:53,538 --> 01:28:54,239 condo building or a townhome 2763 01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:54,540 building so that's a different 2764 01:28:54,540 --> 01:28:56,540 issue. 2765 01:29:00,546 --> 01:29:01,247 But I'm just I'm just so you're 2766 01:29:01,247 --> 01:29:04,247 saying that that would count 2767 01:29:04,716 --> 01:29:05,418 then if it were a condo in a in 2768 01:29:05,418 --> 01:29:08,540 a multifamily housing the fact 2769 01:29:08,540 --> 01:29:08,854 that there's on premises 2770 01:29:08,854 --> 01:29:11,854 management would count as owner 2771 01:29:13,559 --> 01:29:16,559 occupied for so here's if 2772 01:29:16,662 --> 01:29:17,496 there's on premises management 2773 01:29:17,496 --> 01:29:18,297 there help if it's an apartment 2774 01:29:18,297 --> 01:29:21,670 if it's the lyric it's an 2775 01:29:21,670 --> 01:29:21,800 apartment building and so the 2776 01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,800 first one you mentioned is 2777 01:29:24,903 --> 01:29:27,572 rental apartments but I don't 2778 01:29:27,572 --> 01:29:28,373 know about condos and townhomes 2779 01:29:28,373 --> 01:29:29,400 because generally people don't 2780 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,100 own two in the same building 2781 01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:35,100 although they have but we'll 2782 01:29:35,814 --> 01:29:36,715 have to condition and I'm just 2783 01:29:36,715 --> 01:29:37,449 kind of going through the yeah 2784 01:29:37,449 --> 01:29:39,551 I did I wanted to ask a 2785 01:29:39,551 --> 01:29:40,319 question about the host because 2786 01:29:40,319 --> 01:29:41,530 we don't currently have that 2787 01:29:41,530 --> 01:29:43,355 requirement right so what if it 2788 01:29:43,355 --> 01:29:47,226 is a single family home and the 2789 01:29:47,226 --> 01:29:48,160 owner would not be on premises 2790 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:49,610 ,it would not be hosted. 2791 01:29:49,610 --> 01:29:52,610 >> so if they're seeking to 2792 01:29:52,165 --> 01:29:54,867 rent out the entire home then 2793 01:29:54,867 --> 01:29:55,301 that could present 2794 01:29:55,301 --> 01:29:56,680 complications. 2795 01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,680 However, if they're renting out 2796 01:30:00,573 --> 01:30:03,276 rooms r if there is an ad on 2797 01:30:03,276 --> 01:30:04,100 site and the owner is living on 2798 01:30:04,100 --> 01:30:06,579 that and then they're you know, 2799 01:30:06,579 --> 01:30:07,313 renting out the home itself. 2800 01:30:07,313 --> 01:30:09,713 But that's another scenario. 2801 01:30:10,316 --> 01:30:10,983 Yeah, you're correct. 2802 01:30:10,983 --> 01:30:13,383 Councilmember francois if it 2803 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:14,753 were an owner requirement on 2804 01:30:14,753 --> 01:30:17,153 site it would effectively 2805 01:30:18,624 --> 01:30:19,492 preclude entire house rental 2806 01:30:19,492 --> 01:30:21,527 for the most part with the few 2807 01:30:21,527 --> 01:30:22,529 exceptions that eric noted. 2808 01:30:22,529 --> 01:30:23,362 I think where we'd have to 2809 01:30:23,362 --> 01:30:26,298 figure out is how many of them 2810 01:30:26,298 --> 01:30:26,966 are full house are being rented 2811 01:30:26,966 --> 01:30:29,702 because the orinda it was a 2812 01:30:29,702 --> 01:30:30,603 full house being rented and 2813 01:30:30,603 --> 01:30:31,337 which is a problem the one in 2814 01:30:31,337 --> 01:30:33,606 the woodlands the guy went out 2815 01:30:33,606 --> 01:30:34,307 he wanted to start a commercial 2816 01:30:34,307 --> 01:30:37,143 business and basically he was 2817 01:30:37,143 --> 01:30:37,844 intending to rent multiple 2818 01:30:37,844 --> 01:30:40,844 single family homes around the 2819 01:30:41,781 --> 01:30:44,384 era of this was not his and he 2820 01:30:44,384 --> 01:30:45,510 was going to turn them into a 2821 01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:47,510 property management agency. 2822 01:30:48,754 --> 01:30:49,456 Do we want that to me is not 2823 01:30:49,456 --> 01:30:52,325 what we should be allowing in 2824 01:30:52,325 --> 01:30:53,225 single family neighborhoods. 2825 01:30:53,225 --> 01:30:53,960 >> that's not the intent which 2826 01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,696 you have in proximity then if 2827 01:30:56,696 --> 01:30:57,497 an owner lived within 500ft of 2828 01:30:57,497 --> 01:30:59,999 the property or how to well we 2829 01:30:59,999 --> 01:31:02,999 have we yes, there's the 2830 01:31:03,770 --> 01:31:04,470 proximity I mean but it was 2831 01:31:04,470 --> 01:31:06,870 comforting for the neighbors, 2832 01:31:07,273 --> 01:31:07,874 for the visitors and for the 2833 01:31:07,874 --> 01:31:10,874 owner to know that their 2834 01:31:12,112 --> 01:31:15,282 property is being you know, the 2835 01:31:15,282 --> 01:31:15,715 I wrote down risks out of 2836 01:31:15,715 --> 01:31:17,715 control event no. 2837 01:31:18,317 --> 01:31:19,510 One for the city or the 2838 01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:21,955 neighborhood to able to contact 2839 01:31:21,955 --> 01:31:25,250 because if no one's nearby who 2840 01:31:25,250 --> 01:31:28,625 do your contact and you know 2841 01:31:28,695 --> 01:31:29,396 everybody needs to feel 2842 01:31:29,396 --> 01:31:30,630 comfortable with this in their 2843 01:31:30,630 --> 01:31:32,463 neighborhood what about the 2844 01:31:32,833 --> 01:31:33,433 last couple of questions their 2845 01:31:33,433 --> 01:31:34,330 maximum rental duration 2846 01:31:34,330 --> 01:31:36,330 operational requirements 2847 01:31:37,337 --> 01:31:37,770 permissibly pool operation 2848 01:31:37,770 --> 01:31:39,770 requirements? 2849 01:31:40,941 --> 01:31:41,575 Well, I hosted non host and 2850 01:31:41,575 --> 01:31:43,910 local restrictions such as 2851 01:31:43,910 --> 01:31:44,378 proximity saturation, maximum 2852 01:31:44,378 --> 01:31:46,378 rental duration. 2853 01:31:51,751 --> 01:31:52,452 I think we're I'm not into 2854 01:31:52,452 --> 01:31:55,452 making it permissible to host 2855 01:31:55,455 --> 01:31:56,156 events in single family homes 2856 01:31:56,156 --> 01:31:58,156 in residential neighborhoods. 2857 01:31:59,590 --> 01:31:59,492 That's a commercial enterprise 2858 01:31:59,492 --> 01:31:59,793 . 2859 01:31:59,793 --> 01:32:00,461 Yeah. 2860 01:32:00,461 --> 01:32:02,262 All right thank you council 2861 01:32:02,262 --> 01:32:04,262 member darling. 2862 01:32:06,867 --> 01:32:08,101 >> okay so it's interesting 2863 01:32:08,101 --> 01:32:11,500 after I got the list of who 2864 01:32:11,500 --> 01:32:11,772 banned short term rentals I 2865 01:32:11,772 --> 01:32:14,708 looked up and every one of them 2866 01:32:14,708 --> 01:32:15,509 has short term rentals listed 2867 01:32:15,509 --> 01:32:18,345 on airbnb so they're in the 2868 01:32:18,345 --> 01:32:18,979 same position that we're in 2869 01:32:18,979 --> 01:32:22,315 which is they say that you 2870 01:32:22,315 --> 01:32:25,485 can't do it but people are 2871 01:32:25,485 --> 01:32:28,856 doing it anyway and and given 2872 01:32:28,856 --> 01:32:31,856 that slipperiness I think it's 2873 01:32:32,260 --> 01:32:32,893 better to go ahead and bring 2874 01:32:32,893 --> 01:32:35,893 people into compliance so we 2875 01:32:36,330 --> 01:32:36,997 know who they are so we have 2876 01:32:36,997 --> 01:32:39,397 control of the situation. 2877 01:32:39,867 --> 01:32:40,667 So I would not favor banning it 2878 01:32:40,667 --> 01:32:43,237 because we will be back here 2879 01:32:43,237 --> 01:32:44,271 right away. 2880 01:32:44,271 --> 01:32:47,871 I do think going for an 2881 01:32:47,908 --> 01:32:51,450 operating permit makes a lot of 2882 01:32:51,450 --> 01:32:54,450 sense something that is easier 2883 01:32:55,917 --> 01:32:56,718 to administer than anything we 2884 01:32:56,718 --> 01:32:59,853 could do to automate those is 2885 01:32:59,853 --> 01:33:00,822 to the good he owner occupied. 2886 01:33:00,822 --> 01:33:01,889 I have two minds on this. 2887 01:33:01,889 --> 01:33:04,559 On the one hand that was the 2888 01:33:04,559 --> 01:33:07,628 problem with orinda but on the 2889 01:33:07,628 --> 01:33:08,462 other hand the joaquin ranch 2890 01:33:08,462 --> 01:33:11,966 airbnb that was shut down by 2891 01:33:11,966 --> 01:33:12,767 the planning commission a few 2892 01:33:12,767 --> 01:33:15,370 years ago the owner lived there 2893 01:33:15,370 --> 01:33:16,171 and they still managed to 2894 01:33:16,171 --> 01:33:19,171 irritate the neighbors so owner 2895 01:33:20,575 --> 01:33:23,844 occupied owner is only as good 2896 01:33:23,844 --> 01:33:27,415 as the manager the person and 2897 01:33:27,415 --> 01:33:28,449 how proactive they are. 2898 01:33:28,449 --> 01:33:31,552 So I am interested in learning 2899 01:33:31,552 --> 01:33:32,553 more about that. 2900 01:33:32,553 --> 01:33:33,530 I don't have my heart set one 2901 01:33:33,530 --> 01:33:34,890 way or the other. 2902 01:33:34,890 --> 01:33:35,656 I can argue that one both ways. 2903 01:33:35,656 --> 01:33:38,656 >> I ask you a question. 2904 01:33:39,930 --> 01:33:42,330 Yeah but with no owner required 2905 01:33:42,330 --> 01:33:43,131 you definitely don't have on 2906 01:33:43,131 --> 01:33:46,000 site anagement I think it's 2907 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:46,734 something that we need to think 2908 01:33:46,734 --> 01:33:49,136 about carefully because I think 2909 01:33:49,136 --> 01:33:49,870 if we just say you have to be 2910 01:33:49,870 --> 01:33:52,841 owner occupied that would still 2911 01:33:52,841 --> 01:33:53,641 have let the joaquin ranch one 2912 01:33:53,641 --> 01:33:56,744 go forward and that one ended 2913 01:33:56,744 --> 01:33:57,245 up really being problematic for 2914 01:33:57,245 --> 01:33:57,845 the neighborhood. 2915 01:33:57,845 --> 01:34:00,682 I didn't I wasn't in the 2916 01:34:00,682 --> 01:34:01,215 hearing because my house is 2917 01:34:01,215 --> 01:34:03,615 within 500ft of it. 2918 01:34:03,985 --> 01:34:04,986 You said yes. 2919 01:34:04,986 --> 01:34:07,689 Let me go over to across the 2920 01:34:07,689 --> 01:34:11,289 street for hours but it's not 2921 01:34:11,359 --> 01:34:12,260 the panacea. 2922 01:34:12,260 --> 01:34:12,760 It's not the cure all. 2923 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,760 It's not perfect. 2924 01:34:15,396 --> 01:34:16,231 Okay. 2925 01:34:16,231 --> 01:34:16,564 I think clearly no special 2926 01:34:16,564 --> 01:34:18,564 events. 2927 01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:19,768 I think that especially in 2928 01:34:19,768 --> 01:34:22,168 single family neighborhoods but 2929 01:34:22,804 --> 01:34:23,839 same is true of our multifamily 2930 01:34:23,839 --> 01:34:27,439 housing you don't want to have 2931 01:34:27,509 --> 01:34:30,612 and I know that you don't want 2932 01:34:30,612 --> 01:34:31,446 to have the the bridesmaids 2933 01:34:31,446 --> 01:34:33,846 hootenanny in the apartment 2934 01:34:34,383 --> 01:34:35,350 next door. 2935 01:34:35,350 --> 01:34:36,510 I would like o see standards 2936 01:34:36,510 --> 01:34:39,510 safety requirements as far as 2937 01:34:42,791 --> 01:34:45,191 parking occupancy, things like 2938 01:34:45,994 --> 01:34:49,464 that as part of the permit. 2939 01:34:49,464 --> 01:34:50,164 I o think the how you keep the 2940 01:34:50,164 --> 01:34:52,564 neighborhood informed is going 2941 01:34:52,968 --> 01:34:53,368 to be an important part of this 2942 01:34:53,368 --> 01:34:55,368 . 2943 01:34:57,672 --> 01:35:01,343 I can see with an owner with a 2944 01:35:01,343 --> 01:35:02,243 an operating permit hat makes 2945 01:35:02,243 --> 01:35:05,747 it more difficult and so we'll 2946 01:35:05,747 --> 01:35:06,115 have to think through that 2947 01:35:06,115 --> 01:35:06,748 carefully. 2948 01:35:06,748 --> 01:35:07,482 I can think of a couple of 2949 01:35:07,482 --> 01:35:09,518 different ways you could do it. 2950 01:35:09,518 --> 01:35:12,621 One is frequently when we have 2951 01:35:12,621 --> 01:35:13,455 daycares that are coming in 2952 01:35:13,455 --> 01:35:16,724 there is a requirement for them 2953 01:35:16,724 --> 01:35:17,393 to provide contact info to 2954 01:35:17,393 --> 01:35:20,462 neighbors so that if pick up 2955 01:35:20,462 --> 01:35:21,163 and drop off gets to be a 2956 01:35:21,163 --> 01:35:23,265 problem and people are parking 2957 01:35:23,265 --> 01:35:24,660 in front of people's driveways 2958 01:35:24,660 --> 01:35:24,867 they know who to call. 2959 01:35:24,867 --> 01:35:27,602 So we will have to think 2960 01:35:27,602 --> 01:35:30,602 through how the neighbors get 2961 01:35:31,673 --> 01:35:32,140 recourse short of calling pd on 2962 01:35:32,140 --> 01:35:34,140 a friday night. 2963 01:35:34,877 --> 01:35:35,810 Now I'm not sure what the 2964 01:35:35,810 --> 01:35:38,981 answer is there but we do need 2965 01:35:38,981 --> 01:35:42,284 to find a way so that our 2966 01:35:42,284 --> 01:35:43,185 neighbors it doesn't spin out 2967 01:35:43,185 --> 01:35:46,880 of control before we find out 2968 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,880 there's a problem I suppose 2969 01:35:49,758 --> 01:35:51,758 about safety requirements. 2970 01:35:53,696 --> 01:35:54,229 That's I think that's most of 2971 01:35:54,229 --> 01:35:54,529 the questions for e. 2972 01:35:54,529 --> 01:35:56,529 Okay. 2973 01:35:57,330 --> 01:35:57,866 They approached him kay. 2974 01:35:57,866 --> 01:36:00,103 >> but I'm generally in 2975 01:36:00,103 --> 01:36:00,470 agreement with councilmember 2976 01:36:00,470 --> 01:36:02,470 darling. 2977 01:36:04,206 --> 01:36:07,642 I guess the talking about the 2978 01:36:07,642 --> 01:36:08,477 owner occupied I'm worried 2979 01:36:08,477 --> 01:36:11,477 about how that would be 2980 01:36:12,282 --> 01:36:14,682 implemented from a practical 2981 01:36:15,318 --> 01:36:16,118 matter and especially given the 2982 01:36:16,118 --> 01:36:18,518 111 or 179 where we don't 2983 01:36:19,321 --> 01:36:20,556 currently have that requirement 2984 01:36:20,556 --> 01:36:23,425 and so how would we go back and 2985 01:36:23,425 --> 01:36:24,126 and it essentially say they 2986 01:36:24,126 --> 01:36:26,462 can't be if they if t's a 2987 01:36:26,462 --> 01:36:29,462 single family home then they 2988 01:36:30,833 --> 01:36:31,501 can't do it and not the ones 2989 01:36:31,501 --> 01:36:34,169 that don't have permits that 2990 01:36:34,169 --> 01:36:34,570 we're trying to bring in to 2991 01:36:34,570 --> 01:36:35,605 compliance. 2992 01:36:35,605 --> 01:36:38,740 So I think if we imposed right 2993 01:36:38,740 --> 01:36:41,244 now at this point in time an 2994 01:36:41,244 --> 01:36:42,278 owner occupied requirement it's 2995 01:36:42,278 --> 01:36:45,470 a big I think it's a big 2996 01:36:45,470 --> 01:36:46,480 administrative enforcement 2997 01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:46,649 issue for us and for staff to 2998 01:36:46,649 --> 01:36:49,285 try to bring them into 2999 01:36:49,285 --> 01:36:50,285 compliance. 3000 01:36:50,285 --> 01:36:53,885 I so I'm sensitive to that. 3001 01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,930 I think what I'd like to see 3002 01:36:57,930 --> 01:36:57,793 and I'd be okay with an 3003 01:36:57,793 --> 01:37:00,193 operator permit provided there 3004 01:37:01,798 --> 01:37:02,532 were guardrails that said if 3005 01:37:02,532 --> 01:37:05,401 it's being operated in a manner 3006 01:37:05,401 --> 01:37:06,102 that's adverse to public 3007 01:37:06,102 --> 01:37:06,802 health, safety and welfare as 3008 01:37:06,802 --> 01:37:09,202 reasonably determined by city 3009 01:37:10,539 --> 01:37:11,240 staff, the operator permit goes 3010 01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,840 away and that can be done 3011 01:37:14,878 --> 01:37:15,478 immediately and that requires 3012 01:37:15,478 --> 01:37:17,878 enforcement as the city 3013 01:37:17,948 --> 01:37:19,948 attorney said. 3014 01:37:21,451 --> 01:37:22,252 I think if you're if you are or 3015 01:37:22,252 --> 01:37:25,252 have been in violation you 3016 01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:26,356 can't apply for a permit for 12 3017 01:37:26,356 --> 01:37:27,900 months. 3018 01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:30,493 You know it's similar if you've 3019 01:37:30,493 --> 01:37:31,294 been denied a permit you have 3020 01:37:31,294 --> 01:37:33,897 to wait at least a year to 3021 01:37:33,897 --> 01:37:36,897 apply again, I'm okay with 3022 01:37:37,267 --> 01:37:38,301 giving someone the discount for 3023 01:37:38,301 --> 01:37:40,737 compliance but f they don't 3024 01:37:40,737 --> 01:37:41,438 comply within two months 3025 01:37:41,438 --> 01:37:44,400 they're denied and they can't 3026 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:44,875 apply for a year because 3027 01:37:44,875 --> 01:37:47,878 think the goal is to try to 3028 01:37:47,878 --> 01:37:48,678 bring people into compliance 3029 01:37:48,678 --> 01:37:51,780 and get this regulated. 3030 01:37:51,714 --> 01:37:52,916 You know, I hadn't thought I 3031 01:37:52,916 --> 01:37:55,785 had I mean you brought up the 3032 01:37:55,785 --> 01:37:56,453 the neighborhood notice to kind 3033 01:37:56,453 --> 01:38:00,230 of see that going both ways 3034 01:38:00,230 --> 01:38:00,623 that it's I think it will be 3035 01:38:00,623 --> 01:38:03,623 regulated by staff as an 3036 01:38:03,827 --> 01:38:04,561 operator permit then there's 3037 01:38:04,561 --> 01:38:07,831 really not an opportunity for a 3038 01:38:07,831 --> 01:38:08,531 notice public hearing you could 3039 01:38:08,531 --> 01:38:10,867 do it a different a couple of 3040 01:38:10,867 --> 01:38:11,868 different ways and provide 3041 01:38:11,868 --> 01:38:15,468 notice to the neighbors and an 3042 01:38:15,638 --> 01:38:16,372 operator permit is going to be 3043 01:38:16,372 --> 01:38:19,750 issued unless a request for a 3044 01:38:19,750 --> 01:38:19,776 hearing before the zoning 3045 01:38:19,776 --> 01:38:20,476 administrator the said I don't 3046 01:38:20,476 --> 01:38:23,913 think we want to make it 3047 01:38:23,913 --> 01:38:24,614 necessarily appealable all the 3048 01:38:24,614 --> 01:38:28,214 way up to the council because 3049 01:38:28,451 --> 01:38:29,252 but there's maybe there would 3050 01:38:29,252 --> 01:38:31,888 be an up there'd be there would 3051 01:38:31,888 --> 01:38:32,689 be a hearing process before 3052 01:38:32,689 --> 01:38:35,559 there could be before the 3053 01:38:35,559 --> 01:38:36,393 sunning administrator set your 3054 01:38:36,393 --> 01:38:36,693 eyes get big that's one way to 3055 01:38:36,693 --> 01:38:37,394 do it. 3056 01:38:37,394 --> 01:38:40,397 I mean it could be an 3057 01:38:40,397 --> 01:38:41,640 administrative use permit too 3058 01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,234 which is I think that's how 3059 01:38:43,234 --> 01:38:44,167 those are run at staff level 3060 01:38:44,167 --> 01:38:47,437 but it could be appealed zoning 3061 01:38:47,437 --> 01:38:48,271 administrator issues and then 3062 01:38:48,271 --> 01:38:48,806 it could be appealed to the 3063 01:38:48,806 --> 01:38:50,806 planning commission. 3064 01:38:51,775 --> 01:38:55,546 So let's see I like the direct 3065 01:38:55,546 --> 01:38:56,446 remittance a lot. 3066 01:38:56,446 --> 01:38:57,810 I think we should absolutely 3067 01:38:57,810 --> 01:38:59,483 look and I know there are 3068 01:38:59,483 --> 01:39:00,183 several different platforms but 3069 01:39:00,183 --> 01:39:00,917 it sounds like one of the 3070 01:39:00,917 --> 01:39:03,354 biggest ones has that and I 3071 01:39:03,354 --> 01:39:03,654 think we should go forward with 3072 01:39:03,654 --> 01:39:05,654 that. 3073 01:39:06,156 --> 01:39:08,556 Absolutely no special events. 3074 01:39:10,327 --> 01:39:12,327 Um, what else? 3075 01:39:15,199 --> 01:39:15,632 I think I covered I think I 3076 01:39:15,632 --> 01:39:17,301 covered yeah. 3077 01:39:17,301 --> 01:39:17,901 So es sorry I didn't go 3078 01:39:17,901 --> 01:39:18,602 through your questions. 3079 01:39:18,602 --> 01:39:19,300 Yeah short term rentals should 3080 01:39:19,300 --> 01:39:20,337 be allowed. 3081 01:39:20,337 --> 01:39:23,937 What other aspects in terms of 3082 01:39:25,342 --> 01:39:26,900 operational uh, I think maximum 3083 01:39:26,900 --> 01:39:26,644 rental duration was the only 3084 01:39:26,644 --> 01:39:27,110 other one that you didn't 3085 01:39:27,110 --> 01:39:28,846 mention really. 3086 01:39:28,846 --> 01:39:32,149 >> we have o more than a week. 3087 01:39:32,149 --> 01:39:33,500 I'm okay with that. 3088 01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:33,785 >> I actually missed that one 3089 01:39:33,785 --> 01:39:37,210 when I was still my comments I 3090 01:39:37,210 --> 01:39:37,321 would be in favor of up to 30 3091 01:39:37,321 --> 01:39:39,321 days. 3092 01:39:40,570 --> 01:39:40,958 One of the bigger uses is 3093 01:39:40,958 --> 01:39:41,692 people that are relocating to 3094 01:39:41,692 --> 01:39:45,950 the area and those those would 3095 01:39:45,950 --> 01:39:45,696 not to be to do the problems or 3096 01:39:45,696 --> 01:39:47,696 traveling professionals, 3097 01:39:48,199 --> 01:39:50,599 traveling nurses traveling you 3098 01:39:52,169 --> 01:39:56,730 know people in those and so up 3099 01:39:56,730 --> 01:39:56,607 to 30 days could work for a 3100 01:39:56,607 --> 01:39:58,607 situation like hat. 3101 01:39:59,677 --> 01:40:02,547 Council member did any eah 3102 01:40:02,547 --> 01:40:03,348 well I'm thinking about it like 3103 01:40:03,348 --> 01:40:04,480 the 30 day idea too I think 3104 01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:06,351 about people going on vacation 3105 01:40:06,351 --> 01:40:07,510 to maybe they want to rent out 3106 01:40:07,510 --> 01:40:07,785 their home they're going for 2 3107 01:40:07,785 --> 01:40:09,921 or 3 weeks and that gives them 3108 01:40:09,921 --> 01:40:11,921 some flexibility. 3109 01:40:14,192 --> 01:40:14,992 Um one of the one of the things 3110 01:40:14,992 --> 01:40:19,192 I think about is you know what 3111 01:40:20,364 --> 01:40:21,165 I didn't like about the last 3112 01:40:21,165 --> 01:40:24,269 round we had discussion on this 3113 01:40:24,269 --> 01:40:24,969 was that we see this idea of 3114 01:40:24,969 --> 01:40:25,703 residential homes being turned 3115 01:40:25,703 --> 01:40:28,103 into commercial rentals, right? 3116 01:40:28,506 --> 01:40:29,206 So this as someone who not 3117 01:40:29,206 --> 01:40:31,909 only did they own home they 3118 01:40:31,909 --> 01:40:32,911 were renting it from someone 3119 01:40:32,911 --> 01:40:33,411 else and then turning it into a 3120 01:40:33,411 --> 01:40:35,212 commercial space. 3121 01:40:35,212 --> 01:40:38,616 So one suggestion I would have 3122 01:40:38,616 --> 01:40:39,417 that we consider is you know, 3123 01:40:39,417 --> 01:40:41,520 should the person have to live 3124 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:42,319 in the house for at least six 3125 01:40:42,319 --> 01:40:42,587 months to be able to rent it 3126 01:40:42,587 --> 01:40:44,587 out. 3127 01:40:45,123 --> 01:40:48,893 So more than half the year that 3128 01:40:48,893 --> 01:40:52,263 that would be I think a pretty 3129 01:40:52,263 --> 01:40:54,663 reasonable thing to do. 3130 01:40:56,234 --> 01:40:57,680 I think if we do that it will 3131 01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:57,769 cut down on this residential 3132 01:40:57,769 --> 01:41:00,169 being turned into commercial. 3133 01:41:00,405 --> 01:41:01,273 It will be more homeowners that 3134 01:41:01,273 --> 01:41:03,942 are choosing to rent it out for 3135 01:41:03,942 --> 01:41:04,943 periods of the year. 3136 01:41:04,943 --> 01:41:07,946 I don't think that we need the 3137 01:41:07,946 --> 01:41:08,847 collector contingency. 3138 01:41:08,847 --> 01:41:11,847 I think all residents should 3139 01:41:12,500 --> 01:41:13,840 have the opportunity to rent 3140 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:15,353 their house out on a short term 3141 01:41:15,353 --> 01:41:16,355 basis. 3142 01:41:16,355 --> 01:41:19,355 I would recommend e only 3143 01:41:20,459 --> 01:41:21,193 administer one short term 3144 01:41:21,193 --> 01:41:23,940 rental per resident so we don't 3145 01:41:23,940 --> 01:41:23,995 want to be in situations where 3146 01:41:23,995 --> 01:41:26,965 people collect houses so they 3147 01:41:26,965 --> 01:41:27,799 can rent them out. 3148 01:41:27,799 --> 01:41:28,399 I don't think we need a 3149 01:41:28,399 --> 01:41:30,399 conditional use permit. 3150 01:41:31,203 --> 01:41:32,400 I think it should be a much 3151 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,407 easier almost you know like a 3152 01:41:35,407 --> 01:41:36,241 we calling it a operator is I 3153 01:41:36,241 --> 01:41:38,843 like a buy right type thing if 3154 01:41:38,843 --> 01:41:39,210 they just they meet certain 3155 01:41:39,210 --> 01:41:41,210 criteria. 3156 01:41:42,647 --> 01:41:43,515 Yeah currently we have five 3157 01:41:43,515 --> 01:41:44,449 guests I mean I'm not I'm not 3158 01:41:44,449 --> 01:41:47,252 so sure I mean we're a family 3159 01:41:47,252 --> 01:41:49,687 we often travel and we rent out 3160 01:41:49,687 --> 01:41:50,222 a home and we sometimes have 6 3161 01:41:50,222 --> 01:41:51,123 or 7 people, right? 3162 01:41:51,123 --> 01:41:52,757 We've got like us five and like 3163 01:41:52,757 --> 01:41:53,158 maybe our parents or something 3164 01:41:53,158 --> 01:41:53,858 . 3165 01:41:53,858 --> 01:41:56,895 We're trying to find a home. 3166 01:41:56,895 --> 01:41:57,763 I don't think it's unreasonable 3167 01:41:57,763 --> 01:41:58,396 t increase that maybe eight I 3168 01:41:58,396 --> 01:41:58,697 don't think that's a party 3169 01:41:58,697 --> 01:41:59,698 size. 3170 01:41:59,698 --> 01:42:02,698 I still think that's family 3171 01:42:04,570 --> 01:42:05,237 oriented and then and then I 3172 01:42:05,237 --> 01:42:08,837 think that the when e issue 3173 01:42:08,908 --> 01:42:09,541 this permit for the short term 3174 01:42:09,541 --> 01:42:11,710 rental they should have to 3175 01:42:11,710 --> 01:42:12,611 display that on the listing 3176 01:42:12,611 --> 01:42:13,780 whenever they listed on one of 3177 01:42:13,780 --> 01:42:15,780 these platforms. 3178 01:42:16,648 --> 01:42:17,216 So it's easy for us to to pick 3179 01:42:17,216 --> 01:42:17,849 out like who's out of 3180 01:42:17,849 --> 01:42:20,249 compliance right your rent 3181 01:42:20,319 --> 01:42:21,119 there's a rental it doesn't 3182 01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:23,822 have a permit you out of 3183 01:42:23,822 --> 01:42:26,822 compliance then you know that 3184 01:42:27,359 --> 01:42:27,693 that would be a violation in of 3185 01:42:27,693 --> 01:42:29,693 itself. 3186 01:42:30,896 --> 01:42:31,697 I think we should we should 3187 01:42:31,697 --> 01:42:34,299 look at escalating penalties so 3188 01:42:34,299 --> 01:42:35,100 that we're not dealing with, 3189 01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:37,602 you know, folks going long 3190 01:42:37,602 --> 01:42:38,403 periods of time without having 3191 01:42:38,403 --> 01:42:41,373 consequences for for being out 3192 01:42:41,373 --> 01:42:42,408 of compliance. 3193 01:42:42,408 --> 01:42:45,210 And I think that if someone is 3194 01:42:45,210 --> 01:42:48,480 applied for the permit and is, 3195 01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:49,482 you know, remitting their totty 3196 01:42:49,482 --> 01:42:52,482 that the renewal process should 3197 01:42:53,485 --> 01:42:54,320 be very sort of just you know, 3198 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,757 over the ounter type thing or 3199 01:42:57,757 --> 01:42:58,458 just online like if they're if 3200 01:42:58,458 --> 01:43:00,726 they're in compliance and and 3201 01:43:00,726 --> 01:43:01,660 they're remitting their totty 3202 01:43:01,660 --> 01:43:04,930 they should be able to renew. 3203 01:43:04,930 --> 01:43:05,764 Can I ask you a question just 3204 01:43:05,764 --> 01:43:09,680 to clarify if they are in 3205 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:09,736 compliance means that they have 3206 01:43:09,736 --> 01:43:10,403 not violated the terms and 3207 01:43:10,403 --> 01:43:10,703 conditions of their permit. 3208 01:43:10,703 --> 01:43:11,300 Right. 3209 01:43:11,300 --> 01:43:12,372 Right. 3210 01:43:12,372 --> 01:43:14,372 Okay. 3211 01:43:16,420 --> 01:43:16,442 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3212 01:43:16,442 --> 01:43:18,442 So yeah. 3213 01:43:19,746 --> 01:43:20,780 So I would I wouldn't restrict 3214 01:43:20,780 --> 01:43:21,413 I don't think we need to come 3215 01:43:21,413 --> 01:43:24,160 up with like a density or 3216 01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:24,917 location criteria. 3217 01:43:24,917 --> 01:43:27,320 Yeah I don't I don't think 3218 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,720 we're at that level. 3219 01:43:30,823 --> 01:43:31,890 I do think if you live in the 3220 01:43:31,890 --> 01:43:35,610 home and you have a need to you 3221 01:43:35,610 --> 01:43:36,620 that's eligible to be rented as 3222 01:43:36,620 --> 01:43:39,465 a as a short term rental that 3223 01:43:39,465 --> 01:43:40,166 we shouldn't put limits on that 3224 01:43:40,166 --> 01:43:42,268 I think if you if you live in 3225 01:43:42,268 --> 01:43:43,303 the home and you have a space 3226 01:43:43,303 --> 01:43:46,606 that you want to rent out that 3227 01:43:46,606 --> 01:43:49,606 that that should be allowed. 3228 01:43:50,477 --> 01:43:51,211 I think the with these types of 3229 01:43:51,211 --> 01:43:51,911 changes we might see an overall 3230 01:43:51,911 --> 01:43:54,747 decrease in short term entals 3231 01:43:54,747 --> 01:43:55,447 if we have folks need to live 3232 01:43:55,447 --> 01:43:57,951 in them for six months which 3233 01:43:57,951 --> 01:43:58,251 would increase our housing 3234 01:43:58,251 --> 01:43:59,520 stock. 3235 01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,322 But I also think that if we 3236 01:44:02,322 --> 01:44:02,922 make the process easy to comply 3237 01:44:02,922 --> 01:44:03,590 with would be increased 3238 01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:05,990 compliance and increased tlt 3239 01:44:06,326 --> 01:44:06,726 for the city. 3240 01:44:06,726 --> 01:44:08,726 Good. 3241 01:44:10,496 --> 01:44:11,364 Thank you. 3242 01:44:11,364 --> 01:44:12,980 I mean obviously we short for 3243 01:44:12,980 --> 01:44:14,634 rentals are something that's in 3244 01:44:14,634 --> 01:44:15,635 existence. 3245 01:44:15,635 --> 01:44:16,436 It's been there the cat is out 3246 01:44:16,436 --> 01:44:19,500 of the bag on this and now 3247 01:44:19,500 --> 01:44:21,474 we're trying to figure out ways 3248 01:44:21,474 --> 01:44:22,575 to corral it but some and and 3249 01:44:22,575 --> 01:44:24,610 and where to feed it and how to 3250 01:44:24,610 --> 01:44:25,612 and and how to take it in but 3251 01:44:25,612 --> 01:44:29,212 it's been part of the challenge 3252 01:44:29,249 --> 01:44:30,490 that I have ust emotionally on 3253 01:44:30,490 --> 01:44:33,649 this is that here we are 3254 01:44:33,753 --> 01:44:34,454 approving all of these units 3255 01:44:34,454 --> 01:44:36,956 and there was just a course at 3256 01:44:36,956 --> 01:44:37,790 the lanning commission last 3257 01:44:37,790 --> 01:44:40,790 week approving a eight storey 3258 01:44:41,261 --> 01:44:44,261 development right in the heart 3259 01:44:44,765 --> 01:44:45,632 of downtown and we're doing 3260 01:44:45,632 --> 01:44:46,399 that of course to increase the 3261 01:44:46,399 --> 01:44:48,903 housing stock and I have a 3262 01:44:48,903 --> 01:44:49,702 concern that all right. 3263 01:44:49,702 --> 01:44:50,404 Are there are there going to be 3264 01:44:50,404 --> 01:44:52,940 investors that are going to be 3265 01:44:52,940 --> 01:44:53,607 taking up these to be able to 3266 01:44:53,607 --> 01:44:56,109 rent them out of short term 3267 01:44:56,109 --> 01:44:56,910 rentals and now we're just 3268 01:44:56,910 --> 01:44:57,644 losing housing stock along the 3269 01:44:57,644 --> 01:45:00,914 way that we're trying to do the 3270 01:45:00,914 --> 01:45:01,515 best we can to meet the numbers 3271 01:45:01,515 --> 01:45:04,317 and to do what's right. 3272 01:45:04,317 --> 01:45:05,118 So there are challenges there 3273 01:45:05,118 --> 01:45:07,721 but I do think short term 3274 01:45:07,721 --> 01:45:08,522 rentals should be allowed the 3275 01:45:08,522 --> 01:45:11,522 question of a whole house 3276 01:45:14,728 --> 01:45:15,228 versus in the multifamily units 3277 01:45:15,228 --> 01:45:16,163 it's hard. 3278 01:45:16,163 --> 01:45:20,100 I think it's it's hard to say 3279 01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:23,100 owner occupied and we're like 3280 01:45:23,237 --> 01:45:23,870 if we go somewhere and my wife 3281 01:45:23,870 --> 01:45:26,372 and I bring our son and 3282 01:45:26,372 --> 01:45:27,408 daughter and their significant 3283 01:45:27,408 --> 01:45:30,277 other is that six and if we're 3284 01:45:30,277 --> 01:45:31,512 going to rent a house for 3285 01:45:31,512 --> 01:45:34,512 that's 2 or 3 bedrooms you know 3286 01:45:35,480 --> 01:45:35,849 where is the owner going to 3287 01:45:35,849 --> 01:45:38,686 stay so we don't have a lot of 3288 01:45:38,686 --> 01:45:39,553 mansions in walnut creek and a 3289 01:45:39,553 --> 01:45:40,320 lot of these are just 3 or 4 3290 01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,256 bedroom places so not sure 3291 01:45:42,256 --> 01:45:44,656 owner occupied is really 3292 01:45:46,930 --> 01:45:46,827 pragmatic and certainly when 3293 01:45:46,827 --> 01:45:47,528 we're talking about multifamily 3294 01:45:47,528 --> 01:45:50,528 housing while there is roperty 3295 01:45:50,931 --> 01:45:51,732 management on site I think it 3296 01:45:51,732 --> 01:45:54,350 becomes more of a challenge and 3297 01:45:54,350 --> 01:45:57,635 anything else and being able to 3298 01:45:58,500 --> 01:46:01,909 try to meet that I, I like so 3299 01:46:01,909 --> 01:46:02,577 yes so I think we do need to 3300 01:46:02,577 --> 01:46:03,760 develop a short term rental 3301 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,760 agreement on this. 3302 01:46:05,179 --> 01:46:08,749 I do think we need streamlined 3303 01:46:08,749 --> 01:46:09,550 options for consideration 3304 01:46:09,550 --> 01:46:12,219 absolutely not events I mean 3305 01:46:12,219 --> 01:46:12,953 whatever event whatever 3306 01:46:12,953 --> 01:46:13,654 planning commission decides 3307 01:46:13,654 --> 01:46:16,858 what are events I don't think 3308 01:46:16,858 --> 01:46:17,458 we should be able to have those 3309 01:46:17,458 --> 01:46:19,458 maximum rental duration. 3310 01:46:19,893 --> 01:46:20,694 I think 30 days makes sense and 3311 01:46:20,694 --> 01:46:23,694 I think that the other 3312 01:46:24,699 --> 01:46:25,400 requirements that we've heard I 3313 01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,135 think in general the one thing 3314 01:46:28,135 --> 01:46:28,803 I would say regarding adu since 3315 01:46:28,803 --> 01:46:29,336 councilmember vinny brought 3316 01:46:29,336 --> 01:46:31,739 this up is that was 3317 01:46:31,739 --> 01:46:32,540 specifically related to these 3318 01:46:32,540 --> 01:46:36,900 whole housing that is using the 3319 01:46:36,900 --> 01:46:36,644 streamlined state mandates to 3320 01:46:36,644 --> 01:46:38,979 be able to build an edu. 3321 01:46:38,979 --> 01:46:39,947 I don't think they should then 3322 01:46:39,947 --> 01:46:40,481 be able to turn that around as 3323 01:46:40,481 --> 01:46:41,182 a short term rental. 3324 01:46:41,182 --> 01:46:43,818 They're doing that to be able 3325 01:46:43,818 --> 01:46:44,485 to take advantage so that we 3326 01:46:44,485 --> 01:46:47,485 can provide more housing for 3327 01:46:48,156 --> 01:46:48,489 people not more rentals for 3328 01:46:48,489 --> 01:46:49,190 people. 3329 01:46:49,190 --> 01:46:51,492 So that's a one no understood 3330 01:46:51,492 --> 01:46:52,193 and I agree and so to be clear 3331 01:46:52,193 --> 01:46:54,929 I understand there's state law 3332 01:46:54,929 --> 01:46:55,797 around that and I understand 3333 01:46:55,797 --> 01:46:56,498 that it's there to maintain our 3334 01:46:56,498 --> 01:46:57,640 housing stock for people have 3335 01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:58,900 taken advantage of the 3336 01:46:58,900 --> 01:46:59,567 streamlined process so those 3337 01:46:59,567 --> 01:47:00,168 should not be allowed to be 3338 01:47:00,168 --> 01:47:02,537 rented out of short term 3339 01:47:02,537 --> 01:47:03,538 rentals. 3340 01:47:03,538 --> 01:47:06,174 But if you have an eligible to 3341 01:47:06,174 --> 01:47:06,908 you that MAY be was preexisting 3342 01:47:06,908 --> 01:47:10,508 or you didn't take advantage of 3343 01:47:10,578 --> 01:47:11,312 those streamlining processes, I 3344 01:47:11,312 --> 01:47:11,979 think those folks I would I 3345 01:47:11,979 --> 01:47:12,680 would agree I guess just so 3346 01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:16,584 we're on the same page there i 3347 01:47:16,584 --> 01:47:17,585 would agree with that. 3348 01:47:17,585 --> 01:47:18,253 Well, we're a little over the 3349 01:47:18,253 --> 01:47:18,553 board all over the board on 3350 01:47:18,553 --> 01:47:20,521 this. 3351 01:47:20,521 --> 01:47:23,521 But is there enough direction 3352 01:47:24,192 --> 01:47:24,993 we to move forward on so I 3353 01:47:24,993 --> 01:47:27,295 think there's a good start of 3354 01:47:27,295 --> 01:47:28,129 things to create a conversation 3355 01:47:28,129 --> 01:47:31,129 with the community and planning 3356 01:47:31,700 --> 01:47:32,330 commission and then circle back 3357 01:47:32,330 --> 01:47:32,367 around. 3358 01:47:32,367 --> 01:47:32,934 >> okay. 3359 01:47:32,934 --> 01:47:35,934 Can I make one other? 3360 01:47:36,138 --> 01:47:36,771 Sure as it went down so I will 3361 01:47:36,771 --> 01:47:39,771 correct my word from owner 3362 01:47:40,740 --> 01:47:40,808 occupied to hosted because that 3363 01:47:40,808 --> 01:47:43,711 was the r word that was in 3364 01:47:43,711 --> 01:47:44,512 front of us and if somebody 3365 01:47:44,512 --> 01:47:47,349 built in to you and moved into 3366 01:47:47,349 --> 01:47:48,160 the adu on their property which 3367 01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:48,650 I know someone who did that 3368 01:47:48,650 --> 01:47:51,386 then they can rent out the 3369 01:47:51,386 --> 01:47:51,920 house whether it's for long 3370 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:52,220 term or short term. 3371 01:47:52,220 --> 01:47:54,220 Right. 3372 01:47:55,190 --> 01:47:55,924 Well I mean there's a way 3373 01:47:55,924 --> 01:47:56,425 there's a way to do it if there 3374 01:47:56,425 --> 01:47:59,425 was way to do it. 3375 01:48:00,529 --> 01:48:00,928 Yes, there is a way to do it. 3376 01:48:00,928 --> 01:48:01,297 Okay. 3377 01:48:01,297 --> 01:48:03,297 So great. 3378 01:48:04,732 --> 01:48:05,340 Well, thank you very much, 3379 01:48:05,340 --> 01:48:05,701 erica. 3380 01:48:05,701 --> 01:48:06,368 That was a much longer 3381 01:48:06,368 --> 01:48:08,803 discussion than I thought it 3382 01:48:08,803 --> 01:48:09,638 was going to be. 3383 01:48:09,638 --> 01:48:12,508 How are people doing here? 3384 01:48:12,508 --> 01:48:13,410 But you know what's it to we 3385 01:48:13,410 --> 01:48:13,308 take a break, right? 3386 01:48:13,308 --> 01:48:13,675 Yes. 3387 01:48:13,675 --> 01:48:14,376 All right. 3388 01:48:14,376 --> 01:48:14,543 Let's take a ten minute break 3389 01:48:14,543 --> 01:48:16,543 - 3390 01:48:22,345 --> 01:48:22,978 till 8:00 3391 01:48:22,978 --> 01:48:24,978 tonight. 3392 01:48:28,150 --> 01:48:31,254 >> you know, we should have in 3393 01:48:31,254 --> 01:48:31,988 the middle of the race and and 3394 01:48:31,988 --> 01:48:35,580 we're back next on the agenda 3395 01:48:35,580 --> 01:48:37,458 it's a consideration item 3396 01:48:37,927 --> 01:48:38,628 titled update on 2025 and 126 3397 01:48:38,628 --> 01:48:41,530 city council priorities and I 3398 01:48:41,530 --> 01:48:42,331 invite assistant to the city 3399 01:48:42,331 --> 01:48:44,934 manager joe karas and forward 3400 01:48:44,934 --> 01:48:45,535 to provide the presentation. 3401 01:48:45,535 --> 01:48:46,350 >> all right. 3402 01:48:46,350 --> 01:48:46,469 Thank you so much. 3403 01:48:46,469 --> 01:48:48,469 Good evening. 3404 01:48:49,105 --> 01:48:49,939 Council members. 3405 01:48:49,939 --> 01:48:52,208 My name is joe cardoza, 3406 01:48:52,208 --> 01:48:53,209 assistant to the city manager 3407 01:48:53,209 --> 01:48:56,212 and thank you for your time 3408 01:48:56,212 --> 01:48:57,113 this evening to present on yes 3409 01:48:57,113 --> 01:49:00,316 the update on the five city 3410 01:49:00,316 --> 01:49:01,318 council priorities for calendar 3411 01:49:01,318 --> 01:49:03,718 years 2025 and 2026 which were 3412 01:49:07,757 --> 01:49:08,157 identified in FEBRUARY of 2025 3413 01:49:08,157 --> 01:49:08,824 . 3414 01:49:08,824 --> 01:49:11,160 So tonight's presentation is 3415 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:11,961 going to include two things 3416 01:49:11,961 --> 01:49:12,628 first that update that we're 3417 01:49:12,628 --> 01:49:15,498 here for on the significant 3418 01:49:15,498 --> 01:49:16,166 work accomplished since the 3419 01:49:16,166 --> 01:49:19,166 last update to council which 3420 01:49:19,402 --> 01:49:20,203 was in MAY of this year. 3421 01:49:20,203 --> 01:49:20,837 >> and then I'm going to go 3422 01:49:20,837 --> 01:49:23,139 ahead and close the 3423 01:49:23,139 --> 01:49:23,806 presentation tonight with 3424 01:49:23,806 --> 01:49:26,806 something a little bit more 3425 01:49:26,943 --> 01:49:29,612 forward looking which is for 3426 01:49:29,612 --> 01:49:30,213 the calendar year 2027 and 2028 3427 01:49:30,213 --> 01:49:32,213 upcoming city council 3428 01:49:32,949 --> 01:49:33,850 priorities. 3429 01:49:33,850 --> 01:49:34,584 I'm oing to go ahead and 3430 01:49:34,584 --> 01:49:37,821 provide a brief overview of in 3431 01:49:37,821 --> 01:49:38,555 progress and plan community 3432 01:49:38,555 --> 01:49:41,555 outreach to inform those future 3433 01:49:44,261 --> 01:49:44,961 council priorities so as done 3434 01:49:44,961 --> 01:49:47,864 in the past you'll be hearing 3435 01:49:47,864 --> 01:49:48,698 directly tonight from the the 3436 01:49:48,698 --> 01:49:51,368 leads for each of these five 3437 01:49:51,368 --> 01:49:52,202 city council priorities and 3438 01:49:52,202 --> 01:49:54,671 these staff leads are those 3439 01:49:54,671 --> 01:49:55,372 that are ensuring that these 3440 01:49:55,372 --> 01:49:57,372 priorities become implemented 3441 01:49:58,575 --> 01:49:59,276 and turned into real projects 3442 01:49:59,276 --> 01:49:59,976 and accomplishments. 3443 01:49:59,976 --> 01:50:03,546 And so you'll be hearing from 3444 01:50:03,546 --> 01:50:04,148 from them which is economic 3445 01:50:04,148 --> 01:50:04,815 development and downtown 3446 01:50:04,815 --> 01:50:07,815 vitality which will be mike 3447 01:50:07,818 --> 01:50:08,518 nieman, candace rink and mumby 3448 01:50:08,518 --> 01:50:10,918 will talk about environmental 3449 01:50:11,321 --> 01:50:12,540 sustainability climate action 3450 01:50:12,540 --> 01:50:14,925 general plan update you'll hear 3451 01:50:14,925 --> 01:50:15,726 from erica vanden brand rich 3452 01:50:15,726 --> 01:50:18,726 payne to cover park and 3453 01:50:18,828 --> 01:50:19,629 recreation facilities and then 3454 01:50:19,629 --> 01:50:20,230 finally chief hibbs will cover 3455 01:50:20,230 --> 01:50:22,630 public safety and social 3456 01:50:22,733 --> 01:50:23,733 wellness. 3457 01:50:23,733 --> 01:50:24,534 >> so with that I'm going to go 3458 01:50:24,534 --> 01:50:26,870 ahead and pass it to our first 3459 01:50:26,870 --> 01:50:27,571 presenter mike newman to talk 3460 01:50:27,571 --> 01:50:29,971 about economic development and 3461 01:50:30,440 --> 01:50:32,440 downtown vitality. 3462 01:50:34,110 --> 01:50:34,678 >> and good evening mayor 3463 01:50:34,678 --> 01:50:37,780 council mike newman, your 3464 01:50:38,415 --> 01:50:39,415 economic development manager 3465 01:50:39,415 --> 01:50:42,519 and I will give you an update 3466 01:50:42,519 --> 01:50:43,200 for the economic development 3467 01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,200 priority updates. 3468 01:50:46,122 --> 01:50:49,293 As you know we have four major 3469 01:50:49,293 --> 01:50:50,600 council priorities and the 3470 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:50,694 first one is continue building 3471 01:50:50,694 --> 01:50:53,940 a resilient, inclusive and 3472 01:50:53,296 --> 01:50:54,198 diverse economy. 3473 01:50:54,198 --> 01:50:57,334 So we're making a number we 3474 01:50:57,334 --> 01:50:57,801 have made a number of efforts 3475 01:50:57,801 --> 01:50:59,801 on those fronts. 3476 01:51:00,471 --> 01:51:01,720 First and foremost we are 3477 01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:03,472 developing a health care 3478 01:51:04,308 --> 01:51:07,308 marketing campaign and we are 3479 01:51:07,477 --> 01:51:07,978 getting ready for a health care 3480 01:51:07,978 --> 01:51:09,978 conference season. 3481 01:51:11,281 --> 01:51:12,820 We have two in NOVEMBER that 3482 01:51:12,820 --> 01:51:15,820 are planning to roll the 3483 01:51:15,352 --> 01:51:15,987 campaign out for we are a 3484 01:51:15,987 --> 01:51:18,889 sponsor will have a booth. 3485 01:51:18,889 --> 01:51:19,556 There will be marketing to the 3486 01:51:19,556 --> 01:51:22,556 recipients there and we also 3487 01:51:22,826 --> 01:51:25,226 have a digital presence 3488 01:51:25,863 --> 01:51:26,898 following up on those efforts. 3489 01:51:26,898 --> 01:51:30,501 As you know health care is one 3490 01:51:30,501 --> 01:51:31,101 of the critical industry that 3491 01:51:31,101 --> 01:51:33,101 we are targeting. 3492 01:51:33,704 --> 01:51:34,305 We also continue collaborating 3493 01:51:34,305 --> 01:51:34,972 on with educational 3494 01:51:34,972 --> 01:51:37,372 institutions and other tech 3495 01:51:37,908 --> 01:51:38,309 partners on various 3496 01:51:38,309 --> 01:51:40,309 initiatives. 3497 01:51:41,679 --> 01:51:42,679 tech is another area of focus 3498 01:51:42,679 --> 01:51:45,917 to build a diverse economy here 3499 01:51:45,917 --> 01:51:46,584 in walnut creek and we are 3500 01:51:46,584 --> 01:51:48,984 sponsoring a small business 3501 01:51:49,186 --> 01:51:50,220 development corporation start 3502 01:51:50,220 --> 01:51:53,220 up world cup event next 3503 01:51:53,291 --> 01:51:54,492 thursday. 3504 01:51:54,492 --> 01:51:57,395 Actually it will be at the east 3505 01:51:57,395 --> 01:52:00,395 bay health state campus in 3506 01:52:00,431 --> 01:52:01,232 hayward. 3507 01:52:01,232 --> 01:52:04,232 Te second objective s to 3508 01:52:04,334 --> 01:52:04,902 continue creating a business 3509 01:52:04,902 --> 01:52:06,902 friendly environment. 3510 01:52:08,339 --> 01:52:09,600 A number of efforts on that 3511 01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:11,406 front include assisting the 3512 01:52:12,900 --> 01:52:14,409 shade lance property business 3513 01:52:15,279 --> 01:52:15,946 improvement district with 3514 01:52:15,946 --> 01:52:16,614 developing and getting an 3515 01:52:16,614 --> 01:52:19,140 entitlement for their master 3516 01:52:19,450 --> 01:52:20,518 signed program. 3517 01:52:20,518 --> 01:52:23,530 Signage is one of the critical 3518 01:52:23,530 --> 01:52:25,453 priorities there for for 3519 01:52:27,125 --> 01:52:27,925 creating a more distinct area 3520 01:52:27,925 --> 01:52:30,925 within the shade lands will 3521 01:52:31,620 --> 01:52:31,796 continue process improvements, 3522 01:52:31,796 --> 01:52:34,196 training and implementation and 3523 01:52:35,266 --> 01:52:35,933 that's the lead effort and as a 3524 01:52:35,933 --> 01:52:39,370 matter of fact that the next 3525 01:52:39,370 --> 01:52:40,371 council hearing on SEPTEMBER 3526 01:52:40,371 --> 01:52:42,974 15th you will get a much more 3527 01:52:42,974 --> 01:52:43,808 robust update on what various 3528 01:52:43,808 --> 01:52:46,208 progresses and updates that 3529 01:52:47,578 --> 01:52:48,246 staff has made in that regard 3530 01:52:48,246 --> 01:52:50,646 to streamline the permitting 3531 01:52:51,450 --> 01:52:54,450 process and make he customer 3532 01:52:54,853 --> 01:52:56,853 experience more friendly. 3533 01:52:58,757 --> 01:52:59,557 And we also continue an ongoing 3534 01:52:59,557 --> 01:53:01,957 outreach to local businesses, 3535 01:53:02,227 --> 01:53:02,661 property owners and other 3536 01:53:02,661 --> 01:53:03,294 stakeholders. 3537 01:53:03,294 --> 01:53:05,694 This of course includes 3538 01:53:06,931 --> 01:53:07,566 business retention efforts, 3539 01:53:07,566 --> 01:53:09,566 communications information 3540 01:53:10,535 --> 01:53:10,869 sharing and things along that 3541 01:53:10,869 --> 01:53:11,536 nature. 3542 01:53:11,536 --> 01:53:13,936 The third objective is 3543 01:53:14,606 --> 01:53:15,206 enhancing the downtown 3544 01:53:15,206 --> 01:53:17,206 experience and tourism 3545 01:53:18,677 --> 01:53:19,411 attraction the focus on 3546 01:53:19,411 --> 01:53:22,414 downtown over the last year has 3547 01:53:22,414 --> 01:53:23,140 been on the outdoor dining 3548 01:53:23,140 --> 01:53:25,414 program which has really 3549 01:53:25,984 --> 01:53:26,285 activated the streets with the 3550 01:53:26,285 --> 01:53:26,885 pods. 3551 01:53:26,885 --> 01:53:29,285 We have implemented the 3552 01:53:29,788 --> 01:53:30,822 council's direction for 3553 01:53:30,822 --> 01:53:33,822 implementation of these pods by 3554 01:53:34,493 --> 01:53:36,493 deploying the $100,000 grant 3555 01:53:37,662 --> 01:53:38,396 and thank you to this council 3556 01:53:38,396 --> 01:53:40,796 for allocating the funding 3557 01:53:41,332 --> 01:53:42,267 exactly a year ago. 3558 01:53:42,267 --> 01:53:45,704 We're happy to report that over 3559 01:53:45,704 --> 01:53:46,338 the course of a year all of the 3560 01:53:46,338 --> 01:53:48,738 hundred thousand has been 3561 01:53:48,974 --> 01:53:49,674 deployed and ten new pods have 3562 01:53:49,674 --> 01:53:52,674 been delivered and we estimate 3563 01:53:52,944 --> 01:53:53,612 that that generated about 4 to 3564 01:53:53,612 --> 01:53:55,612 1 private sector investment. 3565 01:53:56,715 --> 01:53:59,451 But most of hese ods being 3566 01:53:59,451 --> 01:53:59,885 north of $40,000 each in 3567 01:53:59,885 --> 01:54:01,885 construction. 3568 01:54:02,555 --> 01:54:03,289 So the 10,000 per restaurant 3569 01:54:03,289 --> 01:54:06,289 have been leveraged really well 3570 01:54:06,325 --> 01:54:08,725 and has transformed the 3571 01:54:10,290 --> 01:54:10,895 landscape on many blocks across 3572 01:54:10,895 --> 01:54:13,498 downtown to the tune where we 3573 01:54:13,498 --> 01:54:14,199 have actually even won an 3574 01:54:14,199 --> 01:54:14,833 economic development award for 3575 01:54:14,833 --> 01:54:17,233 the implementation of this 3576 01:54:17,335 --> 01:54:18,136 program. 3577 01:54:18,136 --> 01:54:20,536 We've also implemented an 3578 01:54:21,406 --> 01:54:22,174 entertainment zone in 3579 01:54:22,174 --> 01:54:24,574 collaboration with walnut creek 3580 01:54:25,544 --> 01:54:26,378 downtown and happy to report it 3581 01:54:26,378 --> 01:54:28,347 that they have successfully 3582 01:54:28,347 --> 01:54:29,810 hosted two events under the 3583 01:54:29,810 --> 01:54:32,810 management plan that they had 3584 01:54:32,184 --> 01:54:34,584 conceived under this ordinance 3585 01:54:36,555 --> 01:54:37,223 umbrella and both events have 3586 01:54:37,223 --> 01:54:39,623 been very successful and 3587 01:54:40,359 --> 01:54:41,260 reported positive feedback from 3588 01:54:41,260 --> 01:54:41,694 a lot of operators of 3589 01:54:41,694 --> 01:54:44,940 restaurants in downtown and 3590 01:54:44,162 --> 01:54:46,162 we've attracted about 11,000 3591 01:54:47,232 --> 01:54:47,666 visitors through those two 3592 01:54:47,666 --> 01:54:48,333 events alone. 3593 01:54:48,333 --> 01:54:51,370 So there's more in the works 3594 01:54:51,370 --> 01:54:54,970 for next season and the last 3595 01:54:55,374 --> 01:54:55,941 objective is promotion of the 3596 01:54:55,941 --> 01:54:58,744 city rand as a premier 3597 01:54:58,744 --> 01:55:01,714 destination and a high quality 3598 01:55:01,714 --> 01:55:02,514 of life community as we are so 3599 01:55:02,514 --> 01:55:05,514 I'm excited to share that. 3600 01:55:05,617 --> 01:55:06,853 We have just last week launched 3601 01:55:06,853 --> 01:55:10,756 a new data dashboard and it can 3602 01:55:10,756 --> 01:55:11,490 be found on the walnut creek 3603 01:55:11,490 --> 01:55:13,159 connected website and you could 3604 01:55:13,159 --> 01:55:13,993 see here it's in the 3605 01:55:13,993 --> 01:55:16,393 interactive data dashboard that 3606 01:55:18,464 --> 01:55:20,864 captures 20 major data points 3607 01:55:22,101 --> 01:55:22,902 and each one of them you can 3608 01:55:22,902 --> 01:55:25,605 click on and play around with 3609 01:55:25,605 --> 01:55:26,305 the data going from istoric to 3610 01:55:26,305 --> 01:55:28,908 current and we're currently in 3611 01:55:28,908 --> 01:55:31,908 the process of sharing this 3612 01:55:32,412 --> 01:55:33,146 with the development community 3613 01:55:33,146 --> 01:55:35,546 with prospective businesses and 3614 01:55:36,615 --> 01:55:36,883 also we are seeking input on 3615 01:55:36,883 --> 01:55:37,617 it. 3616 01:55:37,617 --> 01:55:40,587 We plan to continuously update 3617 01:55:40,587 --> 01:55:44,223 the data but also if there MAY 3618 01:55:44,223 --> 01:55:44,456 be other kpis that are helpful 3619 01:55:44,456 --> 01:55:45,224 . 3620 01:55:45,224 --> 01:55:47,727 It's something that we will 3621 01:55:47,727 --> 01:55:48,628 continuously update as we get 3622 01:55:48,628 --> 01:55:52,165 along and make sure that it 3623 01:55:52,165 --> 01:55:52,966 captures the most important and 3624 01:55:52,966 --> 01:55:55,935 robust data that's a living 3625 01:55:55,935 --> 01:55:56,603 document. 3626 01:55:56,603 --> 01:55:58,603 We've also continued 3627 01:55:59,306 --> 01:56:00,400 coordinating quarterly 3628 01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:00,740 stakeholder meetings and those 3629 01:56:00,740 --> 01:56:03,740 are with our partners the 3630 01:56:06,879 --> 01:56:07,714 chamber wcg leicester. 3631 01:56:07,714 --> 01:56:10,584 We've also continued to support 3632 01:56:10,584 --> 01:56:13,584 the general plan update through 3633 01:56:14,521 --> 01:56:15,388 primarily through data support 3634 01:56:15,388 --> 01:56:18,388 and working with economic sub 3635 01:56:18,425 --> 01:56:19,126 consultant and lastly we've 3636 01:56:19,126 --> 01:56:19,793 completed the city's economic 3637 01:56:19,793 --> 01:56:22,193 development action plan and 3638 01:56:22,529 --> 01:56:24,597 that was the document that we 3639 01:56:24,597 --> 01:56:27,597 brought before you in JUNE 3640 01:56:29,702 --> 01:56:29,880 which is a two year document 3641 01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:30,640 and document documents the 3642 01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:30,503 action steps for the city's 3643 01:56:30,503 --> 01:56:32,439 economic development efforts in 3644 01:56:32,439 --> 01:56:36,390 the next two years and grow 3645 01:56:36,242 --> 01:56:38,642 well underway in implementing 3646 01:56:39,879 --> 01:56:42,879 the goals of that document. 3647 01:56:43,983 --> 01:56:44,585 and with that I will pause for 3648 01:56:44,585 --> 01:56:45,180 questions. 3649 01:56:45,180 --> 01:56:47,180 >> thank you. 3650 01:56:47,487 --> 01:56:48,488 Any questions for mike? 3651 01:56:48,488 --> 01:56:50,891 >> there's a nice, nice and 3652 01:56:50,891 --> 01:56:51,925 thorough and glad to hear that 3653 01:56:51,925 --> 01:56:55,525 our grant program was a success 3654 01:56:55,829 --> 01:56:56,897 to councilmember silver. 3655 01:56:56,897 --> 01:56:57,631 We just wanted to say thank you 3656 01:56:57,631 --> 01:56:59,320 for the report but it was 3657 01:56:59,320 --> 01:56:59,999 concise. 3658 01:56:59,999 --> 01:57:00,701 It was focused on the things 3659 01:57:00,701 --> 01:57:03,503 that have been recent and key 3660 01:57:03,503 --> 01:57:04,204 achievements. 3661 01:57:04,204 --> 01:57:04,571 So great job. 3662 01:57:04,571 --> 01:57:06,571 Thank you. 3663 01:57:07,700 --> 01:57:07,907 I got to play with the 3664 01:57:07,907 --> 01:57:08,542 dashboard and I found out 3665 01:57:08,542 --> 01:57:09,276 things when I was looking. 3666 01:57:09,276 --> 01:57:12,145 >> I came across that the other 3667 01:57:12,145 --> 01:57:12,779 day I, I didn't you know we 3668 01:57:12,779 --> 01:57:14,748 always talk about how many 3669 01:57:14,748 --> 01:57:15,582 health care jobs that I like. 3670 01:57:15,582 --> 01:57:18,285 Well that is quite a few. 3671 01:57:18,285 --> 01:57:19,186 So good job. 3672 01:57:19,186 --> 01:57:20,687 >> what is the percentage of 3673 01:57:20,687 --> 01:57:24,287 health care used to be 14% f 3674 01:57:25,325 --> 01:57:25,926 the jobs but I don't have it 3675 01:57:25,926 --> 01:57:28,261 off the top of my head. 3676 01:57:28,261 --> 01:57:29,296 >> I have to go look at it. 3677 01:57:29,296 --> 01:57:30,970 I would encourage you to look 3678 01:57:30,970 --> 01:57:31,598 on the dashboard and we'll be 3679 01:57:31,598 --> 01:57:32,133 there. 3680 01:57:32,133 --> 01:57:34,133 All right. 3681 01:57:35,102 --> 01:57:37,102 Thanks, mike. 3682 01:57:50,117 --> 01:57:50,617 There was the good evening, 3683 01:57:50,617 --> 01:57:51,351 mayor and council. 3684 01:57:51,351 --> 01:57:54,255 I am candis ranking member 3685 01:57:54,255 --> 01:57:54,989 sustainable city manager and 3686 01:57:54,989 --> 01:57:55,690 I'll be providing the update on 3687 01:57:55,690 --> 01:57:58,900 the next school environmental 3688 01:57:58,492 --> 01:57:59,930 sustainable city and climate 3689 01:57:59,930 --> 01:58:01,493 action which focuses on 3690 01:58:02,195 --> 01:58:02,863 remaining a leader in reducing 3691 01:58:02,863 --> 01:58:03,363 our pollution related to the 3692 01:58:03,363 --> 01:58:05,363 climate and other 3693 01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:06,800 sustainability goals focused 3694 01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,200 through implementation of our 3695 01:58:10,700 --> 01:58:11,104 sustainability action plan. 3696 01:58:11,104 --> 01:58:14,410 >> so first we'll discuss some 3697 01:58:14,410 --> 01:58:14,742 of the work that we've done on 3698 01:58:14,742 --> 01:58:15,409 buildings since we last talked 3699 01:58:15,409 --> 01:58:18,211 in MAY and a lot of this has 3700 01:58:18,211 --> 01:58:18,712 focused on energy efficiency 3701 01:58:18,712 --> 01:58:20,712 within buildings. 3702 01:58:21,715 --> 01:58:22,416 So facing outward into the 3703 01:58:22,416 --> 01:58:24,816 community we coordinated with 3704 01:58:25,886 --> 01:58:29,156 mce to send a targeted email 3705 01:58:29,156 --> 01:58:29,890 campaign to high users of 3706 01:58:29,890 --> 01:58:32,890 energy between 4 to 9 P.M. 3707 01:58:33,940 --> 01:58:33,761 Which is when energy is the 3708 01:58:33,761 --> 01:58:36,761 most expensive and also the 3709 01:58:37,398 --> 01:58:38,432 dirtiest and so we was able to 3710 01:58:38,432 --> 01:58:40,334 use the data that they have to 3711 01:58:40,334 --> 01:58:41,350 target 430 households with a 3712 01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:44,350 specialized email that you see 3713 01:58:44,104 --> 01:58:44,972 here on the right really trying 3714 01:58:44,972 --> 01:58:48,109 to make sure that we're putting 3715 01:58:48,109 --> 01:58:51,479 the message where will be most 3716 01:58:51,479 --> 01:58:52,146 most used and then for our own 3717 01:58:52,146 --> 01:58:52,813 facilities we completed the 3718 01:58:52,813 --> 01:58:55,213 lighting upgrades that have 3719 01:58:55,716 --> 01:58:56,417 come to council earlier this 3720 01:58:56,417 --> 01:58:59,354 year at the leisure center for 3721 01:58:59,354 --> 01:59:00,880 the arts the arts guild and the 3722 01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,580 walnut creek library and we use 3723 01:59:03,580 --> 01:59:03,658 on both financing for this 3724 01:59:03,658 --> 01:59:06,580 program which is offered 3725 01:59:06,394 --> 01:59:07,610 through pge and allows us to 3726 01:59:07,610 --> 01:59:10,610 offset the upfront cost and 3727 01:59:10,599 --> 01:59:11,333 spread it out over time through 3728 01:59:11,333 --> 01:59:14,135 the energy savings for the that 3729 01:59:14,135 --> 01:59:15,336 will be part of the project 3730 01:59:15,336 --> 01:59:18,936 next we have a lot of 3731 01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:19,774 transportation updates from 3732 01:59:19,774 --> 01:59:22,174 this summer as well. 3733 01:59:22,343 --> 01:59:23,100 So as you know at our last 3734 01:59:23,100 --> 01:59:23,711 meeting we went deep on 3735 01:59:23,711 --> 01:59:26,111 electric vehicles focusing on 3736 01:59:26,881 --> 01:59:27,582 our fleet and implementation of 3737 01:59:27,582 --> 01:59:30,840 our public facing chargers and 3738 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:30,818 so staff are working on 3739 01:59:30,818 --> 01:59:33,218 implementing the direction that 3740 01:59:33,488 --> 01:59:34,156 we received at that meeting and 3741 01:59:34,156 --> 01:59:34,856 are working on preparing a 3742 01:59:34,856 --> 01:59:37,558 procurement for a third party 3743 01:59:37,558 --> 01:59:37,925 vendor for our ublic facing 3744 01:59:37,925 --> 01:59:38,627 chargers. 3745 01:59:38,627 --> 01:59:41,162 So be more updates on that in 3746 01:59:41,162 --> 01:59:41,997 the coming months and then 3747 01:59:41,997 --> 01:59:45,133 wanted to note that from the 3748 01:59:45,133 --> 01:59:45,767 goal in the sustainability 3749 01:59:45,767 --> 01:59:48,469 action plan we have we're 3750 01:59:48,469 --> 01:59:49,170 making really great progress on 3751 01:59:49,170 --> 01:59:49,771 expanding our bike network so 3752 01:59:49,771 --> 01:59:52,171 we've expanded from our 3753 01:59:55,444 --> 01:59:56,478 baseline 15% already and 3.2% 3754 01:59:56,478 --> 01:59:57,178 or about a half a mile of that 3755 01:59:57,178 --> 01:59:59,314 has happened in the last year 3756 01:59:59,314 --> 02:00:00,140 and we're really targeting that 3757 02:00:00,140 --> 02:00:02,618 on expanding the bike network 3758 02:00:02,618 --> 02:00:03,318 and increasing access and 3759 02:00:03,318 --> 02:00:06,454 filling in gaps and you'll get 3760 02:00:06,454 --> 02:00:07,550 more updates on some of those 3761 02:00:07,550 --> 02:00:07,389 specific projects later 3762 02:00:07,389 --> 02:00:08,560 tonight. 3763 02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:11,260 But it's really important to 3764 02:00:11,260 --> 02:00:11,793 sustainability so I wanted to 3765 02:00:11,793 --> 02:00:14,429 mention it here as well and 3766 02:00:14,429 --> 02:00:15,630 then on more outreach and 3767 02:00:15,630 --> 02:00:17,630 programatic transportation 3768 02:00:18,466 --> 02:00:21,236 related goals we've been doing 3769 02:00:21,236 --> 02:00:22,237 a combination of both in-person 3770 02:00:22,237 --> 02:00:25,237 and online outreach this summer 3771 02:00:25,707 --> 02:00:26,375 so we hosted bike to where 3772 02:00:26,375 --> 02:00:28,775 everyday very shortly after 3773 02:00:28,843 --> 02:00:29,577 your last update which was very 3774 02:00:29,577 --> 02:00:32,548 successful this year we had our 3775 02:00:32,548 --> 02:00:33,348 regular energizer station that 3776 02:00:33,348 --> 02:00:34,160 we've done in the morning for 3777 02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:36,285 several years and then this 3778 02:00:36,285 --> 02:00:37,185 year we added on a bike rodeo 3779 02:00:37,185 --> 02:00:37,819 in the afternoon focused on the 3780 02:00:37,819 --> 02:00:40,555 younger kids and that went 3781 02:00:40,555 --> 02:00:41,323 really well and additionally 3782 02:00:41,323 --> 02:00:44,323 during his summer we were 3783 02:00:44,827 --> 02:00:45,527 invited to some staff from 3784 02:00:45,527 --> 02:00:47,927 sustainability and mayor wilk 3785 02:00:48,163 --> 02:00:48,864 joined us to the sustainability 3786 02:00:48,864 --> 02:00:51,233 and science summer camp which 3787 02:00:51,233 --> 02:00:51,834 was a new summer camp that was 3788 02:00:51,834 --> 02:00:52,501 offered this year. 3789 02:00:52,501 --> 02:00:55,170 It was mostly recycle smart 3790 02:00:55,170 --> 02:00:56,380 programing and hen n friday 3791 02:00:56,380 --> 02:00:59,638 we joined to focus with the 3792 02:00:59,675 --> 02:01:00,509 kids on transportation related 3793 02:01:00,509 --> 02:01:01,210 initiatives and they were very 3794 02:01:01,210 --> 02:01:03,610 enthusiastic about the topic. 3795 02:01:03,946 --> 02:01:06,982 We are also working to support 3796 02:01:06,982 --> 02:01:07,616 the walk and roll program which 3797 02:01:07,616 --> 02:01:08,283 is offered throughout the 3798 02:01:08,283 --> 02:01:10,552 county at elementary schools 3799 02:01:10,552 --> 02:01:11,219 and for those participating 3800 02:01:11,219 --> 02:01:14,230 schools they pick a specific 3801 02:01:14,230 --> 02:01:17,623 day a week and really encourage 3802 02:01:17,727 --> 02:01:18,727 the students to come on foot on 3803 02:01:18,727 --> 02:01:19,361 a bike or in a carpool and 3804 02:01:19,361 --> 02:01:21,761 students get incentives to 3805 02:01:22,464 --> 02:01:23,299 participate over time. 3806 02:01:23,299 --> 02:01:24,100 These programs are really well 3807 02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:26,690 received and it's going to be 3808 02:01:26,690 --> 02:01:26,769 receiving an award at the 3809 02:01:26,769 --> 02:01:28,769 upcoming sustainability gala. 3810 02:01:28,904 --> 02:01:29,806 And so we've been helping to 3811 02:01:29,806 --> 02:01:30,473 promote it to more elementary 3812 02:01:30,473 --> 02:01:32,841 schools in walnut creek and 3813 02:01:32,841 --> 02:01:35,841 we're seeing more and more 3814 02:01:36,211 --> 02:01:37,460 participate each year and then 3815 02:01:37,460 --> 02:01:39,682 over the summer we supported 3816 02:01:39,682 --> 02:01:40,516 the youth ride free program 3817 02:01:40,516 --> 02:01:42,916 from county connection which 3818 02:01:44,119 --> 02:01:44,820 had I believe it was in their 3819 02:01:44,820 --> 02:01:47,220 first month about 13,000 youth 3820 02:01:48,458 --> 02:01:49,158 take advantage of that program 3821 02:01:49,158 --> 02:01:49,692 and it was a big increase over 3822 02:01:49,692 --> 02:01:51,692 last year about 15%. 3823 02:01:52,761 --> 02:01:53,363 So that was a very successful 3824 02:01:53,363 --> 02:01:53,996 program this summer and 3825 02:01:53,996 --> 02:01:56,332 currently we have our fall 3826 02:01:56,332 --> 02:01:58,732 version of encouraging youth 3827 02:01:59,936 --> 02:02:00,803 pass to class which offers free 3828 02:02:00,803 --> 02:02:01,537 bus pass for the first two 3829 02:02:01,537 --> 02:02:03,840 months of the ear to get 3830 02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:04,673 students in the habit of 3831 02:02:04,673 --> 02:02:07,376 writing the book the bus to 3832 02:02:07,376 --> 02:02:08,444 school. 3833 02:02:08,444 --> 02:02:09,450 And so both of those work on 3834 02:02:09,450 --> 02:02:11,450 reducing congestion and 3835 02:02:11,380 --> 02:02:12,150 pollution as well as creating a 3836 02:02:12,150 --> 02:02:15,615 habit of aking transit from an 3837 02:02:19,550 --> 02:02:21,658 early age in the area of waste. 3838 02:02:21,658 --> 02:02:22,425 We've given a few updates on a 3839 02:02:22,425 --> 02:02:24,825 program through recycle smart 3840 02:02:25,862 --> 02:02:26,629 called rethink disposable which 3841 02:02:26,629 --> 02:02:29,629 works with local restaurants to 3842 02:02:29,933 --> 02:02:30,667 who use single use for dine in 3843 02:02:30,667 --> 02:02:33,804 to see if they can switch that 3844 02:02:33,804 --> 02:02:34,471 to reusable which can save them 3845 02:02:34,471 --> 02:02:36,871 money obviously reduce waste 3846 02:02:37,407 --> 02:02:38,107 and then also provide an 3847 02:02:38,107 --> 02:02:40,507 elevated dining experience and 3848 02:02:42,412 --> 02:02:43,113 we had low participation early 3849 02:02:43,113 --> 02:02:45,348 so we've really been targeting 3850 02:02:45,348 --> 02:02:46,149 and focusing on that and over 3851 02:02:46,149 --> 02:02:46,850 the year we've essentially 3852 02:02:46,850 --> 02:02:49,552 filled all the available spots 3853 02:02:49,552 --> 02:02:49,986 in walnut creek for this 3854 02:02:49,986 --> 02:02:50,787 funding cycle. 3855 02:02:50,787 --> 02:02:53,590 So we're excited to get those 3856 02:02:53,590 --> 02:02:54,324 resources out there so that we 3857 02:02:54,324 --> 02:02:55,240 can promote these great changes 3858 02:02:55,240 --> 02:02:55,358 that the restaurants have been 3859 02:02:55,358 --> 02:02:56,793 making. 3860 02:02:56,793 --> 02:02:57,427 But they're about seven 3861 02:02:57,427 --> 02:02:59,827 restaurants are actively going 3862 02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:00,330 through that process right now 3863 02:03:00,330 --> 02:03:01,331 . 3864 02:03:01,331 --> 02:03:04,331 >> we also hosted our second 3865 02:03:04,434 --> 02:03:05,135 annual repair cafe partnering 3866 02:03:05,135 --> 02:03:07,535 with sustainable rossmore and 3867 02:03:08,538 --> 02:03:09,339 recycle smart but it was hosted 3868 02:03:09,339 --> 02:03:11,942 in civic park and open to 3869 02:03:11,942 --> 02:03:12,643 anyone who has a common 3870 02:03:12,643 --> 02:03:13,209 household item that they think 3871 02:03:13,209 --> 02:03:16,209 they can fix but isn't 3872 02:03:16,380 --> 02:03:17,246 operating at the time they can 3873 02:03:17,246 --> 02:03:18,140 bring it in and a volunteer who 3874 02:03:18,140 --> 02:03:20,150 has some sort of repair skills 3875 02:03:20,150 --> 02:03:20,884 sits down with them and they 3876 02:03:20,884 --> 02:03:23,587 work together on seeing if they 3877 02:03:23,587 --> 02:03:24,588 can make the item usable. 3878 02:03:24,588 --> 02:03:26,289 And so we had really great 3879 02:03:26,289 --> 02:03:29,289 turnout again this year with 3880 02:03:29,359 --> 02:03:30,260 129 items that were brought in 3881 02:03:30,260 --> 02:03:30,894 and about 70% of them were 3882 02:03:30,894 --> 02:03:33,960 either fixed or the person 3883 02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:34,197 walked away kind of knowing 3884 02:03:34,197 --> 02:03:34,531 what they would need to do to 3885 02:03:34,531 --> 02:03:36,531 fix it. 3886 02:03:37,434 --> 02:03:38,268 It's a really great environment 3887 02:03:38,268 --> 02:03:38,601 and there encourage anyone to 3888 02:03:38,601 --> 02:03:39,303 attend. 3889 02:03:39,303 --> 02:03:41,505 We're hoping to host one each 3890 02:03:41,505 --> 02:03:42,500 year people use their item 3891 02:03:42,500 --> 02:03:42,673 doesn't get fixed. 3892 02:03:42,673 --> 02:03:43,340 They feel really good about 3893 02:03:43,340 --> 02:03:44,975 trying to do it and it helps 3894 02:03:44,975 --> 02:03:47,978 add to our culture of reuse and 3895 02:03:47,978 --> 02:03:49,179 repair in the city. 3896 02:03:49,179 --> 02:03:52,482 >> and my last topic is just an 3897 02:03:52,482 --> 02:03:53,150 update on our gas power leaf 3898 02:03:53,150 --> 02:03:56,190 blower ban which has been in 3899 02:03:56,190 --> 02:03:56,854 effect since APRIL. 3900 02:03:56,854 --> 02:03:57,488 And so sustainable staff and 3901 02:03:57,488 --> 02:03:59,888 code enforcement staff are 3902 02:04:00,257 --> 02:04:00,858 working together to respond to 3903 02:04:00,858 --> 02:04:02,858 complaints of potential 3904 02:04:03,961 --> 02:04:04,762 violation that we receive and 3905 02:04:04,762 --> 02:04:06,631 we're really focusing on an 3906 02:04:06,631 --> 02:04:08,631 education first approach. 3907 02:04:09,567 --> 02:04:11,567 We're averaging about 150 3908 02:04:13,570 --> 02:04:14,571 reports a month and we have 3909 02:04:14,571 --> 02:04:17,475 notice we send a if we get 3910 02:04:17,475 --> 02:04:18,275 repeat notices you know, we 3911 02:04:18,275 --> 02:04:20,478 have steps that we follow up on 3912 02:04:20,478 --> 02:04:22,913 that but about 85% of the 3913 02:04:22,913 --> 02:04:23,580 properties we've only received 3914 02:04:23,580 --> 02:04:24,281 one complaint about them. 3915 02:04:24,281 --> 02:04:24,949 So we're hoping that's a sign 3916 02:04:24,949 --> 02:04:27,285 that the outreach that we're 3917 02:04:27,285 --> 02:04:27,952 doing s either informing 3918 02:04:27,952 --> 02:04:30,121 people of policy they didn't 3919 02:04:30,121 --> 02:04:31,155 know about or helping them see 3920 02:04:31,155 --> 02:04:34,391 the benefits of it and bringing 3921 02:04:34,391 --> 02:04:35,459 them into compliance. 3922 02:04:35,459 --> 02:04:35,993 >> and with that I'm happy to 3923 02:04:35,993 --> 02:04:37,561 take any questions. 3924 02:04:37,561 --> 02:04:38,396 Thank you can so I actually 3925 02:04:38,396 --> 02:04:38,763 have a quick question on that 3926 02:04:38,763 --> 02:04:40,763 last one. 3927 02:04:41,632 --> 02:04:42,533 So how what's the outreach that 3928 02:04:42,533 --> 02:04:42,966 if we hear a complaint what's 3929 02:04:42,966 --> 02:04:44,966 the next step? 3930 02:04:45,602 --> 02:04:46,336 >> so we send a letter to the 3931 02:04:46,336 --> 02:04:47,700 property letting them know that 3932 02:04:47,700 --> 02:04:50,341 there MAY have been a potential 3933 02:04:50,341 --> 02:04:51,750 violation sharing the resources 3934 02:04:51,750 --> 02:04:53,678 that we have on our website and 3935 02:04:53,678 --> 02:04:54,378 we include a flier that's 3936 02:04:54,378 --> 02:04:55,790 targeted to landscapers along 3937 02:04:55,790 --> 02:04:58,480 with that notice so they can 3938 02:04:58,480 --> 02:04:58,716 pass that information along if 3939 02:04:58,716 --> 02:04:59,490 that's the service that they 3940 02:04:59,490 --> 02:05:01,490 receive. 3941 02:05:01,419 --> 02:05:02,320 Thank you. 3942 02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:05,623 On the reusable food work we've 3943 02:05:05,623 --> 02:05:06,257 had some conversation at 3944 02:05:06,257 --> 02:05:07,580 recycle smart about this. 3945 02:05:07,580 --> 02:05:10,610 What do you actually mean by 3946 02:05:10,610 --> 02:05:10,728 reusable food where because 3947 02:05:10,728 --> 02:05:13,397 quite frankly if I go into a 3948 02:05:13,397 --> 02:05:14,131 restaurant and I get a plated 3949 02:05:14,131 --> 02:05:17,100 dinner with their plates that's 3950 02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:17,835 reusable because it's going 3951 02:05:17,835 --> 02:05:18,636 through a dishwasher but I 3952 02:05:18,636 --> 02:05:21,639 don't think you mean thank you 3953 02:05:21,639 --> 02:05:21,972 what do you mean by that? 3954 02:05:21,972 --> 02:05:22,607 >> yeah. 3955 02:05:22,607 --> 02:05:24,909 So this program is pretty 3956 02:05:24,909 --> 02:05:25,710 flexible and part of what they 3957 02:05:25,710 --> 02:05:26,311 provide is technical assistance 3958 02:05:26,311 --> 02:05:26,978 kind of working with the 3959 02:05:26,978 --> 02:05:28,713 restaurant and understanding 3960 02:05:28,713 --> 02:05:29,747 their operation. 3961 02:05:29,747 --> 02:05:32,850 So the photo on the slides a 3962 02:05:32,850 --> 02:05:33,551 little small this isn't an 3963 02:05:33,551 --> 02:05:34,285 example in walnut creek but it 3964 02:05:34,285 --> 02:05:36,520 is an example of the kind of 3965 02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:37,880 the wide breath this kind of 3966 02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:39,880 program could provide. 3967 02:05:40,358 --> 02:05:41,580 So the photo on the left would 3968 02:05:41,580 --> 02:05:43,227 be the before you come in and 3969 02:05:43,227 --> 02:05:44,296 sit down and you get your food 3970 02:05:44,296 --> 02:05:44,896 in a clamshell even if you're 3971 02:05:44,896 --> 02:05:47,732 eating it in so they can 3972 02:05:47,732 --> 02:05:48,466 provide dishes for that but 3973 02:05:48,466 --> 02:05:50,866 they'll also assist restaurants 3974 02:05:51,703 --> 02:05:52,370 even if it's one of the 3975 02:05:52,370 --> 02:05:54,370 participating businesses is 3976 02:05:55,473 --> 02:05:56,174 looking at just reusable straws 3977 02:05:56,174 --> 02:05:59,143 there they mainly do beverages 3978 02:05:59,143 --> 02:05:59,844 so even if they aren't able to 3979 02:05:59,844 --> 02:06:02,244 transition everything if they 3980 02:06:03,281 --> 02:06:06,718 could do just the straws as an 3981 02:06:06,718 --> 02:06:07,552 example it still reduces a lot 3982 02:06:07,552 --> 02:06:10,552 of waste being generated and 3983 02:06:10,621 --> 02:06:11,389 can save them the money they 3984 02:06:11,389 --> 02:06:12,190 have to go all the way. 3985 02:06:12,190 --> 02:06:12,758 I guess a conversation centered 3986 02:06:12,758 --> 02:06:14,359 around the dishwashing 3987 02:06:14,359 --> 02:06:15,930 requirement so if they're 3988 02:06:15,930 --> 02:06:18,693 actually eating in and that the 3989 02:06:18,830 --> 02:06:20,830 food establishments utensils 3990 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:22,900 and food were and even that it 3991 02:06:22,900 --> 02:06:23,202 might not even be available on 3992 02:06:23,202 --> 02:06:25,202 site. 3993 02:06:26,538 --> 02:06:27,272 Yes so the technical assistance 3994 02:06:27,272 --> 02:06:30,676 providers can work with them to 3995 02:06:30,676 --> 02:06:31,343 see if the certain there are 3996 02:06:31,343 --> 02:06:34,343 some that sometimes it works 3997 02:06:34,379 --> 02:06:35,280 without a dishwasher they there 3998 02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:36,140 are ways they can do it. 3999 02:06:36,140 --> 02:06:38,951 Sometimes it doesn't it doesn't 4000 02:06:38,951 --> 02:06:39,618 work for every site but this 4001 02:06:39,618 --> 02:06:41,986 program actually can funded 4002 02:06:41,986 --> 02:06:42,420 dishwashers which a lot of them 4003 02:06:42,420 --> 02:06:43,355 don't. 4004 02:06:43,355 --> 02:06:43,955 >> so that that is a really 4005 02:06:43,955 --> 02:06:44,356 great way about how it's 4006 02:06:44,356 --> 02:06:45,958 structured. 4007 02:06:45,958 --> 02:06:46,558 Thank you. 4008 02:06:46,558 --> 02:06:48,558 >> yes. 4009 02:06:50,162 --> 02:06:51,290 Yeah and thank you for the 4010 02:06:51,290 --> 02:06:51,763 presentation and a lot of the 4011 02:06:51,763 --> 02:06:53,365 exciting projects we're working 4012 02:06:53,365 --> 02:06:54,199 on. 4013 02:06:54,199 --> 02:06:54,733 Congratulations on the work 4014 02:06:54,733 --> 02:06:57,133 with rock and roll. 4015 02:06:57,603 --> 02:07:00,603 I was wondering with this 4016 02:07:00,839 --> 02:07:01,673 reusable food containers did 4017 02:07:01,673 --> 02:07:05,243 someone reach out to john meyer 4018 02:07:05,243 --> 02:07:05,910 hospital cafeteria because they 4019 02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:08,910 recently there are very high 4020 02:07:09,470 --> 02:07:09,815 volume and they recently just 4021 02:07:09,815 --> 02:07:13,840 made this change and I imagine 4022 02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:13,886 that the volume of disposables 4023 02:07:13,886 --> 02:07:16,387 that hey go through would 4024 02:07:16,387 --> 02:07:17,560 probably equal 5 or 6 4025 02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:17,790 restaurants in and of itself 4026 02:07:17,790 --> 02:07:20,790 but they've transitioned to all 4027 02:07:21,260 --> 02:07:24,260 reusable food wares and yeah 4028 02:07:24,930 --> 02:07:25,631 that's that's great to hear I 4029 02:07:25,631 --> 02:07:28,734 don't think and just you know 4030 02:07:28,734 --> 02:07:29,368 outside of restaurant and 4031 02:07:29,368 --> 02:07:30,350 there's some other schools 4032 02:07:30,350 --> 02:07:30,736 programs that recycle great 4033 02:07:30,736 --> 02:07:32,938 works on I'm not aware of them 4034 02:07:32,938 --> 02:07:35,938 reaching out to health care 4035 02:07:36,341 --> 02:07:36,909 yeah just a few yeah I feel o 4036 02:07:36,909 --> 02:07:37,243 it's nice to see you. 4037 02:07:37,243 --> 02:07:39,243 >> yeah. 4038 02:07:39,311 --> 02:07:40,120 Thank you. 4039 02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:40,379 >> thanks, candice. 4040 02:07:40,379 --> 02:07:42,379 Thank you. 4041 02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:43,849 And I'll pass it off to erica 4042 02:07:43,849 --> 02:07:46,849 vanden brand to give the 4043 02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:57,600 general plan update call hello 4044 02:07:58,330 --> 02:07:58,998 there council erica vander 4045 02:07:58,998 --> 02:08:00,998 brown community development 4046 02:08:01,968 --> 02:08:02,702 director so just a little bit 4047 02:08:02,702 --> 02:08:05,638 more than a month ago we are 4048 02:08:05,638 --> 02:08:06,305 before you talking about the 4049 02:08:06,305 --> 02:08:09,305 general plan update and the 4050 02:08:09,342 --> 02:08:09,975 fact that it's a multiyear 4051 02:08:09,975 --> 02:08:11,975 community based effort. 4052 02:08:12,145 --> 02:08:12,745 It's more of an iron man than 4053 02:08:12,745 --> 02:08:15,145 it is a5k. 4054 02:08:16,549 --> 02:08:19,819 So with that I will share with 4055 02:08:19,819 --> 02:08:20,653 you one slide and what's 4056 02:08:20,653 --> 02:08:23,653 happened since we're last in 4057 02:08:24,230 --> 02:08:24,323 front of council on the 21st of 4058 02:08:24,323 --> 02:08:26,323 JULY. 4059 02:08:28,627 --> 02:08:29,362 So if you recall you know there 4060 02:08:29,362 --> 02:08:30,290 had been a significant amount 4061 02:08:30,290 --> 02:08:31,797 of stakeholder outreach that 4062 02:08:31,797 --> 02:08:32,565 occurred in the community as 4063 02:08:32,565 --> 02:08:35,565 well as having a joint 4064 02:08:35,635 --> 02:08:36,302 commission kickoff study 4065 02:08:36,302 --> 02:08:39,302 session and then coming here 4066 02:08:39,439 --> 02:08:39,739 before council on the 21st of 4067 02:08:39,739 --> 02:08:41,739 JULY. 4068 02:08:42,642 --> 02:08:43,609 So since that time we've been 4069 02:08:43,609 --> 02:08:44,277 out in the community talking 4070 02:08:44,277 --> 02:08:46,913 with folks about what their 4071 02:08:46,913 --> 02:08:47,547 hopes, aspirations and dreams 4072 02:08:47,547 --> 02:08:50,547 are for the general plan. 4073 02:08:51,617 --> 02:08:52,285 Update we've been at the locust 4074 02:08:52,285 --> 02:08:54,620 street festival once upon a 4075 02:08:54,620 --> 02:08:55,288 street and probably plaza and 4076 02:08:55,288 --> 02:08:58,658 then later on this month we 4077 02:08:58,658 --> 02:08:59,659 will be at both farmers markets 4078 02:08:59,659 --> 02:09:02,963 so that the one in shade lands 4079 02:09:02,963 --> 02:09:06,366 on the 19th of this month as 4080 02:09:06,366 --> 02:09:09,366 well as the downtown farmer's 4081 02:09:10,236 --> 02:09:11,370 market on the 13th to share 4082 02:09:11,370 --> 02:09:13,906 with the community that this 4083 02:09:13,906 --> 02:09:14,841 effort is underway. 4084 02:09:14,841 --> 02:09:17,841 >> and then the you know 4085 02:09:17,844 --> 02:09:20,844 probably for you the least 4086 02:09:21,481 --> 02:09:21,647 interesting paper based type of 4087 02:09:21,647 --> 02:09:22,348 - 4088 02:09:22,348 --> 02:09:25,719 thing is that we have existing 4089 02:09:25,719 --> 02:09:26,652 condition reports to document 4090 02:09:26,652 --> 02:09:29,520 all the different existing 4091 02:09:29,789 --> 02:09:30,590 commissions are conditions 4092 02:09:30,590 --> 02:09:33,590 throughout the community and so 4093 02:09:33,893 --> 02:09:34,594 those are you know have been 4094 02:09:34,594 --> 02:09:35,294 drafted, they've been reviewed 4095 02:09:35,294 --> 02:09:38,980 by staff and we're going back 4096 02:09:38,980 --> 02:09:38,698 and forth with the consultant 4097 02:09:38,698 --> 02:09:41,535 to make sure that those 4098 02:09:41,535 --> 02:09:42,235 existing conditions represent 4099 02:09:42,235 --> 02:09:45,138 represent the community as we 4100 02:09:45,138 --> 02:09:46,139 know it to be today and those 4101 02:09:46,139 --> 02:09:49,676 will be shared out a little bit 4102 02:09:49,676 --> 02:09:53,613 later in the year with both the 4103 02:09:53,613 --> 02:09:54,470 commissions and I want than you 4104 02:09:54,470 --> 02:09:54,714 with council. 4105 02:09:54,714 --> 02:09:56,983 The intention is that by the 4106 02:09:56,983 --> 02:09:57,817 end of the year that we've 4107 02:09:57,817 --> 02:10:01,417 returned and that we're able to 4108 02:10:01,722 --> 02:10:02,322 share that information with you 4109 02:10:02,322 --> 02:10:05,224 and to have a further 4110 02:10:05,224 --> 02:10:07,224 discussion most importantly 4111 02:10:07,627 --> 02:10:08,462 however there on thursday, 4112 02:10:08,462 --> 02:10:09,162 SEPTEMBER 24th there is a 4113 02:10:09,162 --> 02:10:12,162 workshop upcoming at the civic 4114 02:10:12,332 --> 02:10:15,332 park community center and so 4115 02:10:15,636 --> 02:10:16,469 mayor pro tem francois has 4116 02:10:16,469 --> 02:10:19,469 agreed to help welcome the 4117 02:10:20,141 --> 02:10:23,610 community to that on that day 4118 02:10:23,610 --> 02:10:24,344 and so with that it's not 4119 02:10:24,344 --> 02:10:27,944 nearly as exciting as the last 4120 02:10:28,615 --> 02:10:29,249 time we were here last month or 4121 02:10:29,249 --> 02:10:29,549 you know, the month before 4122 02:10:29,549 --> 02:10:31,549 that. 4123 02:10:31,985 --> 02:10:32,719 But just if you have any 4124 02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:34,988 questions I'm here to answer 4125 02:10:34,988 --> 02:10:35,589 them. 4126 02:10:35,589 --> 02:10:37,589 >> thank you. 4127 02:10:39,126 --> 02:10:39,927 And I'm manning the stuffing 4128 02:10:39,927 --> 02:10:42,129 the farmer's market booth n 4129 02:10:42,129 --> 02:10:45,665 the 13th so I'll see you or 4130 02:10:45,665 --> 02:10:46,300 staff or both what is an 4131 02:10:46,300 --> 02:10:49,300 existing an example of an 4132 02:10:49,536 --> 02:10:50,270 existing condition and when do 4133 02:10:50,270 --> 02:10:53,700 you think council will see that 4134 02:10:53,700 --> 02:10:56,677 report and will it be before a 4135 02:10:56,677 --> 02:10:57,111 mayor pro tem and I two part 4136 02:10:57,111 --> 02:10:59,111 good question. 4137 02:11:01,810 --> 02:11:04,351 >> so the the intention is an 4138 02:11:04,351 --> 02:11:05,152 existing conditions report so 4139 02:11:05,152 --> 02:11:08,255 there are a number of them some 4140 02:11:08,255 --> 02:11:08,956 of them deal with healthy 4141 02:11:08,956 --> 02:11:11,392 communities, some of them deal 4142 02:11:11,392 --> 02:11:12,225 with the state of in our arts 4143 02:11:12,225 --> 02:11:15,225 and recreation or open spaces. 4144 02:11:15,596 --> 02:11:16,430 Still others you know document 4145 02:11:16,430 --> 02:11:18,830 our demographics or economic 4146 02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:20,501 development you know what's 4147 02:11:20,501 --> 02:11:23,400 going on and then our land uses 4148 02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:23,804 in our transportation certainly 4149 02:11:23,804 --> 02:11:27,404 so that is the array of 4150 02:11:27,408 --> 02:11:28,209 existing onditions and it's to 4151 02:11:28,209 --> 02:11:31,946 make sure that we all have the 4152 02:11:31,946 --> 02:11:32,647 same facts that we're operating 4153 02:11:32,647 --> 02:11:35,549 from in the community and that 4154 02:11:35,549 --> 02:11:36,484 all those are undocumented. 4155 02:11:36,484 --> 02:11:39,586 Now in terms of your next 4156 02:11:39,586 --> 02:11:40,221 question, we're so well I was 4157 02:11:40,221 --> 02:11:42,221 sharing with councilmember 4158 02:11:43,157 --> 02:11:43,791 francois earlier it's like one 4159 02:11:43,791 --> 02:11:46,191 of these period television 4160 02:11:46,761 --> 02:11:47,428 shows where you have the staff 4161 02:11:47,428 --> 02:11:50,265 scurrying around for the big 4162 02:11:50,265 --> 02:11:50,932 event and so we're trying 4163 02:11:50,932 --> 02:11:53,932 desperately to get all this 4164 02:11:54,268 --> 02:11:57,171 done and we need to be able to, 4165 02:11:57,171 --> 02:11:58,720 you know, work to both with our 4166 02:11:58,720 --> 02:11:58,806 consultants to get things done 4167 02:11:58,806 --> 02:12:01,976 as quickly as possible and then 4168 02:12:01,976 --> 02:12:02,310 also find time on he council 4169 02:12:02,310 --> 02:12:04,310 agenda. 4170 02:12:05,613 --> 02:12:08,820 So I will defer that question 4171 02:12:08,820 --> 02:12:08,483 ultimately to our city manager 4172 02:12:08,483 --> 02:12:10,483 . 4173 02:12:12,553 --> 02:12:12,954 Thank you. 4174 02:12:12,954 --> 02:12:13,455 Okay. 4175 02:12:13,455 --> 02:12:15,855 I think that's it. 4176 02:12:15,990 --> 02:12:16,691 Thanks for the update, erica. 4177 02:12:16,691 --> 02:12:17,425 Thank you very much. 4178 02:12:17,425 --> 02:12:21,250 And I will introduce rich payne 4179 02:12:25,433 --> 02:12:27,833 our public works director. 4180 02:12:29,704 --> 02:12:30,504 >> good evening mayor. 4181 02:12:30,504 --> 02:12:31,106 Members of the council I'm rich 4182 02:12:31,106 --> 02:12:32,941 payne, the public works 4183 02:12:32,941 --> 02:12:33,241 director for the city walnut 4184 02:12:33,241 --> 02:12:34,175 creek. 4185 02:12:34,175 --> 02:12:37,175 >> tonight I will be updating 4186 02:12:37,479 --> 02:12:40,915 you on the park and recreation 4187 02:12:40,915 --> 02:12:41,850 facility. 4188 02:12:41,850 --> 02:12:44,250 This probably already includes 4189 02:12:45,220 --> 02:12:48,220 many of the metro projects 4190 02:12:49,290 --> 02:12:49,991 specifically a large one which 4191 02:12:49,991 --> 02:12:50,325 is the aquatics and community 4192 02:12:50,325 --> 02:12:51,250 center. 4193 02:12:51,250 --> 02:12:52,994 >> so I'll give you an update 4194 02:12:52,994 --> 02:12:53,661 on that along with some other 4195 02:12:53,661 --> 02:12:56,661 funded projects such as the 4196 02:12:57,299 --> 02:12:57,865 transportation project that we 4197 02:12:57,865 --> 02:13:00,865 have going in the ity. 4198 02:13:01,135 --> 02:13:01,770 >> so just first off just 4199 02:13:01,770 --> 02:13:02,470 want to recap some of the 4200 02:13:02,470 --> 02:13:04,870 projects that we've completed 4201 02:13:07,709 --> 02:13:08,609 using our metro funding and the 4202 02:13:08,609 --> 02:13:09,310 first one here is the ball 4203 02:13:09,310 --> 02:13:12,147 field lighting project at tice 4204 02:13:12,147 --> 02:13:12,948 valley park. 4205 02:13:12,948 --> 02:13:15,450 I'm sure mike vickers is 4206 02:13:15,450 --> 02:13:16,318 looking at this picture and 4207 02:13:16,318 --> 02:13:17,180 asking why couldn't you use a 4208 02:13:17,180 --> 02:13:19,521 better picture of the turfs in 4209 02:13:19,521 --> 02:13:20,388 pretty bad shape? 4210 02:13:20,388 --> 02:13:23,625 But I wanted to illustrate this 4211 02:13:23,625 --> 02:13:24,459 the lighting has enabled the 4212 02:13:24,459 --> 02:13:27,930 city to expand the usage of 4213 02:13:27,930 --> 02:13:28,496 this ark and you can see that 4214 02:13:28,496 --> 02:13:30,896 it's being well used. 4215 02:13:31,199 --> 02:13:31,900 So I think that's a success 4216 02:13:31,900 --> 02:13:34,303 even though it's a little more 4217 02:13:34,303 --> 02:13:35,270 work on our maintenance staff 4218 02:13:35,270 --> 02:13:38,506 and it definitely is a success. 4219 02:13:38,506 --> 02:13:39,274 The synthetic turf project at 4220 02:13:39,274 --> 02:13:39,541 heather farm park is another 4221 02:13:39,541 --> 02:13:41,541 one. 4222 02:13:42,444 --> 02:13:43,245 Just anecdotally my ife and I 4223 02:13:43,245 --> 02:13:46,548 were here on friday drove past 4224 02:13:46,548 --> 02:13:47,148 the field and looked at the 4225 02:13:47,148 --> 02:13:47,882 just looked at what was 4226 02:13:47,882 --> 02:13:50,652 happening out there and I don't 4227 02:13:50,652 --> 02:13:51,386 think there was a square oot 4228 02:13:51,386 --> 02:13:54,560 of that field that wasn't being 4229 02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:54,622 used or several teams using the 4230 02:13:54,622 --> 02:13:56,622 field for practice. 4231 02:13:57,759 --> 02:13:57,954 >> it was really you know, just 4232 02:13:57,954 --> 02:13:58,560 - 4233 02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:00,960 illustrates the success that 4234 02:14:01,997 --> 02:14:02,831 has gone into this project. 4235 02:14:02,831 --> 02:14:06,168 And then I just want to point 4236 02:14:06,168 --> 02:14:06,802 out the court resurfacing at 4237 02:14:06,802 --> 02:14:09,202 both our basketball court 4238 02:14:09,738 --> 02:14:10,380 abelardo and then the roger 4239 02:14:10,380 --> 02:14:12,380 park. 4240 02:14:13,242 --> 02:14:13,909 So both really in talking to 4241 02:14:13,909 --> 02:14:16,909 mike it really has activated 4242 02:14:17,646 --> 02:14:18,680 those spaces before. 4243 02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:21,616 If you remember the basketball 4244 02:14:21,616 --> 02:14:22,285 court at our building was in 4245 02:14:22,285 --> 02:14:24,887 pretty bad shape and really 4246 02:14:24,887 --> 02:14:25,721 underutilized and now that it 4247 02:14:25,721 --> 02:14:28,721 we've resurfaced it and prove 4248 02:14:28,891 --> 02:14:29,725 that amenity has really drawn 4249 02:14:29,725 --> 02:14:32,725 people there for pickup games 4250 02:14:35,430 --> 02:14:36,432 and other types of activities. 4251 02:14:36,432 --> 02:14:39,935 Just to update you on the 4252 02:14:39,935 --> 02:14:43,105 existing park at civic we were 4253 02:14:43,105 --> 02:14:43,940 in the process of this this 4254 02:14:43,940 --> 02:14:47,900 project has taken a little bit 4255 02:14:47,900 --> 02:14:48,100 longer than anticipated. 4256 02:14:48,100 --> 02:14:51,247 One f the delays for this park 4257 02:14:51,247 --> 02:14:51,947 was just he getting a hold of 4258 02:14:51,947 --> 02:14:54,347 all the playground equipment. 4259 02:14:55,585 --> 02:14:56,385 So there's been delays in 4260 02:14:56,385 --> 02:14:57,860 getting that but now that we 4261 02:14:57,860 --> 02:14:59,721 have it we're working with the 4262 02:14:59,721 --> 02:15:00,389 contractor to schedule the work 4263 02:15:00,389 --> 02:15:03,525 and it's slated to happen in 4264 02:15:03,525 --> 02:15:04,561 the fall. 4265 02:15:04,561 --> 02:15:06,396 So and as it starts up there 4266 02:15:06,396 --> 02:15:06,996 will be about six weeks for 4267 02:15:06,996 --> 02:15:09,396 that project to happen. 4268 02:15:10,266 --> 02:15:13,669 >> so next on the list is sort 4269 02:15:13,669 --> 02:15:16,669 of our premier project for 4270 02:15:16,939 --> 02:15:17,974 metro as I offer these pictures 4271 02:15:17,974 --> 02:15:20,743 just so you can kind of take a 4272 02:15:20,743 --> 02:15:21,978 look at just the development, 4273 02:15:21,978 --> 02:15:24,647 it's really kind of cool to see 4274 02:15:24,647 --> 02:15:25,140 just everything coming 4275 02:15:25,140 --> 02:15:27,140 together. 4276 02:15:29,318 --> 02:15:32,822 You can imagine in how it sits 4277 02:15:32,822 --> 02:15:35,791 next to he concrete pond and 4278 02:15:35,791 --> 02:15:36,592 just the experience that's 4279 02:15:36,592 --> 02:15:39,592 going to create for the 4280 02:15:39,896 --> 02:15:40,896 community center in terms of 4281 02:15:40,896 --> 02:15:41,430 the pool you can see it they've 4282 02:15:41,430 --> 02:15:43,430 excavated the pool. 4283 02:15:43,899 --> 02:15:47,904 The next steps there will be to 4284 02:15:47,904 --> 02:15:48,571 add some additional utilities 4285 02:15:48,571 --> 02:15:49,339 and associated lighting and 4286 02:15:49,339 --> 02:15:51,908 other things at rebar it and 4287 02:15:51,908 --> 02:15:52,575 then the gunite which is 4288 02:15:52,575 --> 02:15:55,575 concrete that they spray on 4289 02:15:55,678 --> 02:15:56,412 will go on I'm told this month 4290 02:15:56,412 --> 02:15:59,382 I was talking to the contractor 4291 02:15:59,382 --> 02:16:00,160 and so later this month we'll 4292 02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:02,416 see concrete going there. 4293 02:16:03,320 --> 02:16:06,289 I know the push is really to 4294 02:16:06,289 --> 02:16:07,123 get all this done before the 4295 02:16:07,123 --> 02:16:07,924 the super el nino comes. 4296 02:16:07,924 --> 02:16:10,927 So we're I know that the 4297 02:16:10,927 --> 02:16:11,627 contractor s really concerned 4298 02:16:11,627 --> 02:16:14,640 about that and then of course 4299 02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:14,498 the next step will be vertical 4300 02:16:14,498 --> 02:16:16,498 construction. 4301 02:16:18,340 --> 02:16:18,868 We'll start seeing things come 4302 02:16:18,868 --> 02:16:19,535 together and I'll tell you that 4303 02:16:19,535 --> 02:16:22,172 we're really excited to see 4304 02:16:22,172 --> 02:16:23,730 that happen. 4305 02:16:23,730 --> 02:16:25,808 But just to update you and 4306 02:16:25,808 --> 02:16:26,109 overall the project is going 4307 02:16:26,109 --> 02:16:26,776 well. 4308 02:16:26,776 --> 02:16:29,746 We've ran into a few things 4309 02:16:29,746 --> 02:16:32,146 associated with the site 4310 02:16:33,683 --> 02:16:34,517 development but I think so far 4311 02:16:34,517 --> 02:16:35,184 given the magnitude of this 4312 02:16:35,184 --> 02:16:35,485 project is it's going quite 4313 02:16:35,485 --> 02:16:37,485 well. 4314 02:16:38,455 --> 02:16:42,159 So next on the list is all the 4315 02:16:42,159 --> 02:16:42,826 pedestrian bike friendly 4316 02:16:42,826 --> 02:16:43,126 development that's going out 4317 02:16:43,126 --> 02:16:43,826 there. 4318 02:16:43,826 --> 02:16:46,796 The first one here is a trail 4319 02:16:46,796 --> 02:16:47,597 crossing enhancements project. 4320 02:16:47,597 --> 02:16:50,533 If you drive around town you 4321 02:16:50,533 --> 02:16:51,201 can see all these the 4322 02:16:51,201 --> 02:16:53,601 improvements that are being 4323 02:16:53,737 --> 02:16:54,738 made at all of our trail 4324 02:16:54,738 --> 02:16:57,738 crossings and I definitely see 4325 02:16:58,575 --> 02:17:01,575 well it has definitely created 4326 02:17:02,130 --> 02:17:05,130 a safer environment for people 4327 02:17:05,349 --> 02:17:06,149 crossing at these intersections 4328 02:17:06,149 --> 02:17:09,149 before I think they were 4329 02:17:09,453 --> 02:17:10,321 probably under marked now 4330 02:17:10,321 --> 02:17:13,356 you'll see the signs lines and 4331 02:17:13,356 --> 02:17:14,391 legends and advance warning 4332 02:17:14,391 --> 02:17:14,991 when you come up on these 4333 02:17:14,991 --> 02:17:17,394 trials and it really has 4334 02:17:17,394 --> 02:17:18,280 improved safety for the 4335 02:17:18,280 --> 02:17:18,628 pedestrians and bicyclists 4336 02:17:18,628 --> 02:17:21,280 bicyclists that use this 4337 02:17:22,900 --> 02:17:23,600 infrastructure for the broadway 4338 02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:26,600 newer safer to school project 4339 02:17:29,340 --> 02:17:32,340 is in design and that 4340 02:17:33,610 --> 02:17:33,859 improvement is slated to happen 4341 02:17:33,859 --> 02:17:35,450 . 4342 02:17:35,450 --> 02:17:39,845 And I want to say and we see 4343 02:17:40,985 --> 02:17:43,985 here yeah the construction is 4344 02:17:44,288 --> 02:17:47,888 is slated to happen in late 4345 02:17:48,959 --> 02:17:49,693 2728 so and that really is 4346 02:17:49,693 --> 02:17:52,396 going to improve the safety for 4347 02:17:52,396 --> 02:17:53,264 the school and the other users 4348 02:17:53,264 --> 02:17:55,799 that use that pathway too or 4349 02:17:55,799 --> 02:17:56,533 that area to come downtown 4350 02:17:56,533 --> 02:17:58,933 including the motorists that 4351 02:17:59,770 --> 02:18:00,805 use that area. 4352 02:18:00,805 --> 02:18:03,674 >> so design is underway for 4353 02:18:03,674 --> 02:18:04,508 the north broadway road diet. 4354 02:18:04,508 --> 02:18:07,508 This is that section between 4355 02:18:08,345 --> 02:18:10,882 civic and and why we are really 4356 02:18:10,882 --> 02:18:11,715 it's a wide really expansive 4357 02:18:11,715 --> 02:18:14,715 area when you're crossing you 4358 02:18:15,686 --> 02:18:16,487 feel kind of alone out there. 4359 02:18:16,487 --> 02:18:18,789 It takes a while to get across 4360 02:18:18,789 --> 02:18:19,690 that area so the improvements 4361 02:18:19,690 --> 02:18:22,690 and design are underway for 4362 02:18:23,227 --> 02:18:23,861 that project and that's also a 4363 02:18:23,861 --> 02:18:26,261 project that will probably 4364 02:18:30,834 --> 02:18:31,803 happen in 2028 ish but that 4365 02:18:31,803 --> 02:18:32,503 there's still a lot of design 4366 02:18:32,503 --> 02:18:35,720 work that needs to happen with 4367 02:18:35,720 --> 02:18:38,672 that project and the same thing 4368 02:18:38,675 --> 02:18:39,109 goes with the park side cycle 4369 02:18:39,109 --> 02:18:41,109 track project. 4370 02:18:42,179 --> 02:18:43,140 These projects are similar and 4371 02:18:43,140 --> 02:18:46,140 that they'll both receive some 4372 02:18:46,840 --> 02:18:49,840 type of cycle track and 4373 02:18:49,821 --> 02:18:50,622 essentially cycle track is 4374 02:18:50,622 --> 02:18:53,858 where they have a divider or 4375 02:18:53,858 --> 02:18:54,692 something between the icycle 4376 02:18:54,692 --> 02:18:57,692 us and the motorists and 4377 02:18:58,363 --> 02:18:59,630 sometimes they'll use a buffer 4378 02:18:59,630 --> 02:19:01,366 like park parking so that push 4379 02:19:01,366 --> 02:19:02,400 the parking away from the curb 4380 02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:05,470 out into the street and this 4381 02:19:05,470 --> 02:19:06,103 allows some security between 4382 02:19:06,103 --> 02:19:09,103 the motorists and and the 4383 02:19:12,900 --> 02:19:14,879 people driving so the next one 4384 02:19:14,879 --> 02:19:15,480 on the list here for bike 4385 02:19:15,480 --> 02:19:17,480 friendly and pedestrian 4386 02:19:18,549 --> 02:19:20,949 friendly infrastructure is the 4387 02:19:21,586 --> 02:19:21,986 oakland boulevard improvements 4388 02:19:21,986 --> 02:19:22,853 . 4389 02:19:22,853 --> 02:19:25,423 This is a section of boulevard 4390 02:19:25,423 --> 02:19:26,223 that from mount diablo oakland 4391 02:19:26,223 --> 02:19:29,223 boulevard from mount diablo to 4392 02:19:29,961 --> 02:19:30,695 trinity it's almost a connector 4393 02:19:30,695 --> 02:19:33,498 from all that condensed housing 4394 02:19:33,498 --> 02:19:36,498 there to the bart station. 4395 02:19:37,569 --> 02:19:38,269 This one's a tricky one. 4396 02:19:38,269 --> 02:19:40,271 We've received funding for it 4397 02:19:40,271 --> 02:19:41,600 but it's it's a tricky one just 4398 02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:44,242 because of the elevations are a 4399 02:19:44,242 --> 02:19:47,842 little bit steep from just the 4400 02:19:48,113 --> 02:19:52,913 way it was built are we it it's 4401 02:19:54,419 --> 02:19:57,789 going to require a lot of a lot 4402 02:19:57,789 --> 02:19:58,423 of engineering to put sidewalks 4403 02:19:58,423 --> 02:19:59,123 and other bicycle 4404 02:19:59,123 --> 02:20:01,523 infrastructure on this section 4405 02:20:02,627 --> 02:20:05,597 of street the next one and I 4406 02:20:05,597 --> 02:20:09,197 think we're all ware of this 4407 02:20:09,267 --> 02:20:10,101 poject is on street there 4408 02:20:10,101 --> 02:20:13,101 right now we're working with 4409 02:20:13,371 --> 02:20:14,390 the county just to make sure 4410 02:20:14,390 --> 02:20:14,539 that we're coordinating our 4411 02:20:14,539 --> 02:20:16,539 projects together. 4412 02:20:17,475 --> 02:20:20,475 This project is slated to 4413 02:20:21,346 --> 02:20:24,346 happen in late 7 so the 4414 02:20:25,830 --> 02:20:27,585 construction probably in in the 4415 02:20:27,585 --> 02:20:28,287 end of summer or early fall of 4416 02:20:28,287 --> 02:20:30,687 27 and that'll be interesting 4417 02:20:31,189 --> 02:20:32,560 how that turns out. 4418 02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:34,325 But I know that there's a lot 4419 02:20:34,325 --> 02:20:35,227 of angst out there for that 4420 02:20:35,227 --> 02:20:38,530 project and the last one here 4421 02:20:38,530 --> 02:20:38,897 is the walker avenue san miguel 4422 02:20:38,897 --> 02:20:39,597 sidewalk. 4423 02:20:39,597 --> 02:20:42,267 This project is almost done if 4424 02:20:42,267 --> 02:20:42,968 you've driven through that area 4425 02:20:42,968 --> 02:20:45,968 it's essentially a you know, 4426 02:20:46,671 --> 02:20:50,271 return for ada and given the 4427 02:20:50,442 --> 02:20:51,142 number of condominiums and 4428 02:20:51,142 --> 02:20:54,142 other apartments in that area 4429 02:20:54,380 --> 02:20:55,214 there is a lot of pedestrian 4430 02:20:55,214 --> 02:20:55,881 traffic that come through there 4431 02:20:55,881 --> 02:20:58,484 and so this will really make 4432 02:20:58,484 --> 02:20:59,218 that corner, that section of 4433 02:20:59,218 --> 02:21:00,486 san miguel and walker really 4434 02:21:00,486 --> 02:21:02,486 safer. 4435 02:21:04,656 --> 02:21:07,560 >> edestrian traffic and last 4436 02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:09,361 but not least is the the sort 4437 02:21:09,361 --> 02:21:12,564 of phase three, if you will, of 4438 02:21:12,564 --> 02:21:15,564 the you know, the aquatics 4439 02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:18,870 project as you recall this 4440 02:21:18,870 --> 02:21:21,270 project are essentially the 4441 02:21:22,775 --> 02:21:23,775 plan is to remove this from the 4442 02:21:23,775 --> 02:21:27,375 site and so this we recently 4443 02:21:28,800 --> 02:21:30,783 took to pros in fact last night 4444 02:21:30,783 --> 02:21:31,583 we took this pro to pros last 4445 02:21:31,583 --> 02:21:33,952 night and offered two options 4446 02:21:33,952 --> 02:21:37,423 one and two and the pros 4447 02:21:37,423 --> 02:21:39,423 commission recommended option 4448 02:21:41,193 --> 02:21:44,864 two and sort of with the caveat 4449 02:21:44,864 --> 02:21:45,497 that they that we plan to use 4450 02:21:45,497 --> 02:21:47,497 the outreach information 4451 02:21:48,267 --> 02:21:49,268 collected by the general plan 4452 02:21:49,268 --> 02:21:52,868 as a foundation to guide the 4453 02:21:52,972 --> 02:21:55,972 process with the focus on 4454 02:21:57,176 --> 02:21:57,877 creating a mass the heather 4455 02:21:57,877 --> 02:22:01,477 farm master plan update with a 4456 02:22:04,160 --> 02:22:07,616 focus on really this clark and 4457 02:22:07,886 --> 02:22:08,754 you know kind of re-use of this 4458 02:22:08,754 --> 02:22:11,724 space here so if you look at 4459 02:22:11,724 --> 02:22:12,558 that blue line last time I was 4460 02:22:12,558 --> 02:22:13,225 up here there was a question in 4461 02:22:13,225 --> 02:22:15,595 terms of what that footprint 4462 02:22:15,595 --> 02:22:16,495 print looks like. 4463 02:22:16,495 --> 02:22:16,896 This is sort of following the 4464 02:22:16,896 --> 02:22:18,896 fence line. 4465 02:22:19,332 --> 02:22:22,932 So it's a pretty large space 4466 02:22:23,302 --> 02:22:26,302 that will be repurposing so 4467 02:22:27,106 --> 02:22:27,740 more to come on that as I as we 4468 02:22:27,740 --> 02:22:28,441 work through this the next 4469 02:22:28,441 --> 02:22:31,441 update I'll probably have more 4470 02:22:32,479 --> 02:22:34,140 information for you and that's 4471 02:22:34,140 --> 02:22:37,614 all I have is there any 4472 02:22:39,286 --> 02:22:41,721 questions toes in the water 4473 02:22:41,721 --> 02:22:44,721 2027 toes in the water 27 I 4474 02:22:44,757 --> 02:22:45,158 have the sign on my on my desk 4475 02:22:45,158 --> 02:22:45,858 . 4476 02:22:45,858 --> 02:22:46,226 >> so DECEMBER 31st 2027 it's 4477 02:22:46,226 --> 02:22:48,226 midnight. 4478 02:22:49,495 --> 02:22:52,265 I know what 27 could you go 4479 02:22:52,265 --> 02:22:54,665 back one slide please? 4480 02:22:55,602 --> 02:22:56,569 >> maybe. 4481 02:22:56,569 --> 02:22:59,305 Although I appreciate that the 4482 02:22:59,305 --> 02:22:59,605 pros commission weighed in on 4483 02:22:59,605 --> 02:22:59,873 this. 4484 02:22:59,873 --> 02:23:00,540 Yes. 4485 02:23:00,540 --> 02:23:00,840 And of course they took the 4486 02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:02,840 most. 4487 02:23:03,376 --> 02:23:04,770 But I think what they did is 4488 02:23:04,770 --> 02:23:06,947 they took the broadest option 4489 02:23:06,947 --> 02:23:10,547 and narrowed it to focus on 4490 02:23:11,384 --> 02:23:11,685 this space here,not the whole 4491 02:23:11,685 --> 02:23:12,385 park. 4492 02:23:12,385 --> 02:23:14,688 Mike, did I interpret what you 4493 02:23:14,688 --> 02:23:16,688 said correctly? 4494 02:23:17,991 --> 02:23:21,994 >> so kind of the the they did 4495 02:23:21,994 --> 02:23:22,896 see the importance of doing an 4496 02:23:22,896 --> 02:23:23,630 update to the existing heather 4497 02:23:23,630 --> 02:23:27,230 farm master plan which was done 4498 02:23:29,969 --> 02:23:30,570 in 2003 and so I think the plan 4499 02:23:30,570 --> 02:23:33,874 would be to use that the 4500 02:23:33,874 --> 02:23:34,140 existing master plan and update 4501 02:23:34,140 --> 02:23:34,808 it. 4502 02:23:34,808 --> 02:23:37,310 There's a ew things that are 4503 02:23:37,310 --> 02:23:38,110 outdated obviously we have an 4504 02:23:38,110 --> 02:23:40,411 all abilities playground there 4505 02:23:41,114 --> 02:23:44,551 along with the dog park so that 4506 02:23:44,551 --> 02:23:45,218 aren't reflected in the other 4507 02:23:45,218 --> 02:23:45,551 the fields and all the other 4508 02:23:45,551 --> 02:23:47,551 things. 4509 02:23:48,388 --> 02:23:51,892 There's not much to update in 4510 02:23:51,892 --> 02:23:52,692 terms of the the the and the 4511 02:23:52,692 --> 02:23:55,896 other farm update that was done 4512 02:23:55,896 --> 02:23:56,563 in 2003 but they know which 4513 02:23:56,563 --> 02:23:58,498 fell through the park on the 4514 02:23:58,498 --> 02:24:01,502 third rail that yeah and then 4515 02:24:01,502 --> 02:24:02,402 the folks would be here so you 4516 02:24:02,402 --> 02:24:03,700 know just and my understanding 4517 02:24:03,700 --> 02:24:05,639 is that they also asked for 4518 02:24:05,639 --> 02:24:06,440 some additional information and 4519 02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:09,943 we MAY be going back in early 4520 02:24:09,943 --> 02:24:10,578 OCTOBER to discuss some of the 4521 02:24:10,578 --> 02:24:11,278 options with them and then 4522 02:24:11,278 --> 02:24:11,912 we'll bring it back to council 4523 02:24:11,912 --> 02:24:14,148 for further discussion and 4524 02:24:14,148 --> 02:24:14,781 ultimately decision about how 4525 02:24:14,781 --> 02:24:17,181 to proceed what's correct. 4526 02:24:18,385 --> 02:24:19,319 >> what were your estimation be 4527 02:24:19,319 --> 02:24:22,856 like if we're looking at option 4528 02:24:22,856 --> 02:24:23,557 if the pros commission if we 4529 02:24:23,557 --> 02:24:26,557 look t option one essentially 4530 02:24:27,270 --> 02:24:29,129 the time frame for making 4531 02:24:29,129 --> 02:24:29,964 decisions versus option two 4532 02:24:29,964 --> 02:24:30,597 time frame, it seems like an 4533 02:24:30,597 --> 02:24:33,434 option to that could be a 4534 02:24:33,434 --> 02:24:33,801 couple of years of discussions. 4535 02:24:33,801 --> 02:24:34,401 >> right. 4536 02:24:34,401 --> 02:24:37,400 And that was the pros 4537 02:24:37,400 --> 02:24:38,138 commission's concern. 4538 02:24:38,138 --> 02:24:40,340 And so the dea was not to wait 4539 02:24:40,340 --> 02:24:40,708 until the general plan was 4540 02:24:40,708 --> 02:24:41,575 complete. 4541 02:24:41,575 --> 02:24:44,575 We were just interested in 4542 02:24:45,512 --> 02:24:48,649 using some of the data used in 4543 02:24:48,649 --> 02:24:49,683 the outreach for the general 4544 02:24:49,683 --> 02:24:52,683 plan and aligning that data 4545 02:24:53,454 --> 02:24:56,490 with the or with a an 4546 02:24:56,490 --> 02:24:56,790 additional master plan of this 4547 02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:58,790 area. 4548 02:25:00,527 --> 02:25:01,161 So we were t was kind of a 4549 02:25:01,161 --> 02:25:03,561 combination and that would 4550 02:25:04,598 --> 02:25:08,198 expedite the you know, any kind 4551 02:25:08,502 --> 02:25:09,136 of delays in the process of 4552 02:25:09,136 --> 02:25:11,536 summarize a little little 4553 02:25:12,607 --> 02:25:15,607 differently in that they liked 4554 02:25:16,577 --> 02:25:17,244 the idea of option two but 4555 02:25:17,244 --> 02:25:17,644 wanted it done as quickly as 4556 02:25:17,644 --> 02:25:19,644 option one. 4557 02:25:20,215 --> 02:25:20,882 And so you got this you know, 4558 02:25:20,882 --> 02:25:23,651 so there might be an option 4559 02:25:23,651 --> 02:25:24,452 three coming back and at no I 4560 02:25:24,452 --> 02:25:26,854 was waiting for the we gave 4561 02:25:26,854 --> 02:25:27,588 them option one, we gave them 4562 02:25:27,588 --> 02:25:28,289 option two and they took option 4563 02:25:28,289 --> 02:25:30,591 three and that's exactly what 4564 02:25:30,591 --> 02:25:32,591 they did right. 4565 02:25:33,661 --> 02:25:34,329 Think thank you. 4566 02:25:34,329 --> 02:25:35,630 Yeah, you're welcome. 4567 02:25:35,630 --> 02:25:37,298 What one thing and I know this 4568 02:25:37,298 --> 02:25:38,366 isn't necessarily this forum 4569 02:25:38,366 --> 02:25:39,660 but as we go through these 4570 02:25:39,660 --> 02:25:42,470 projects I know that like just 4571 02:25:42,470 --> 02:25:43,170 this last weekend right at a 4572 02:25:43,170 --> 02:25:44,672 soccer game with our kids from 4573 02:25:44,672 --> 02:25:48,142 these new fields out in dublin 4574 02:25:48,142 --> 02:25:48,943 and everybody's like you know, 4575 02:25:48,943 --> 02:25:49,744 30, 40 yards from the field 4576 02:25:49,744 --> 02:25:52,446 trying to find a little tree to 4577 02:25:52,446 --> 02:25:52,747 sit under because there's no 4578 02:25:52,747 --> 02:25:53,581 shade. 4579 02:25:53,581 --> 02:25:56,751 And it occurred to me that as 4580 02:25:56,751 --> 02:25:59,788 we build these projects like I 4581 02:25:59,788 --> 02:26:00,488 was looking at the one on civic 4582 02:26:00,488 --> 02:26:02,824 park and I'm thinking is there 4583 02:26:02,824 --> 02:26:03,491 time to put up like some shade 4584 02:26:03,491 --> 02:26:06,861 sails you know for the kids 4585 02:26:06,861 --> 02:26:07,595 over the playground is that I 4586 02:26:07,595 --> 02:26:10,365 know that maybe the ship sailed 4587 02:26:10,365 --> 02:26:14,350 on a funding but yeah I think 4588 02:26:14,350 --> 02:26:14,669 that's something we can look at 4589 02:26:14,669 --> 02:26:17,690 when that time comes. 4590 02:26:17,772 --> 02:26:18,773 Yeah because because I know 4591 02:26:18,773 --> 02:26:21,510 what a what a premium you know 4592 02:26:21,510 --> 02:26:21,810 that is especially like for the 4593 02:26:21,810 --> 02:26:23,810 kids. 4594 02:26:24,979 --> 02:26:25,981 >> yeah civic civic park has a 4595 02:26:25,981 --> 02:26:29,284 lot of tree shade around it so 4596 02:26:29,284 --> 02:26:29,984 it's there is a lot of shade 4597 02:26:29,984 --> 02:26:32,320 there but I see what you mean 4598 02:26:32,320 --> 02:26:33,540 especially which is you know 4599 02:26:33,540 --> 02:26:36,540 all abilities fields and things 4600 02:26:36,124 --> 02:26:36,825 I mean not the old buildings 4601 02:26:36,825 --> 02:26:39,825 but the synthetic turf fields. 4602 02:26:40,228 --> 02:26:40,562 Yeah those can get really warm 4603 02:26:40,562 --> 02:26:40,929 so yeah. 4604 02:26:40,929 --> 02:26:41,229 >> thanks. 4605 02:26:41,229 --> 02:26:43,229 Yeah. 4606 02:26:43,632 --> 02:26:46,969 I mean you spurred a thought 4607 02:26:46,969 --> 02:26:47,703 there that parking field that 4608 02:26:47,703 --> 02:26:50,703 we're not seemingly touching is 4609 02:26:50,773 --> 02:26:53,773 part of this phase three. 4610 02:26:54,175 --> 02:26:57,775 Is there an opportunity to do 4611 02:26:57,846 --> 02:26:58,647 kind of solar car shade 4612 02:26:58,647 --> 02:27:01,647 coverings to generate you know 4613 02:27:01,649 --> 02:27:02,517 we can cross pollinate in terms 4614 02:27:02,517 --> 02:27:06,880 of some of our priorities here 4615 02:27:06,880 --> 02:27:06,722 and make t a little less less 4616 02:27:06,722 --> 02:27:07,489 of a heat island? 4617 02:27:07,489 --> 02:27:09,792 >> yeah, I think those are all 4618 02:27:09,792 --> 02:27:13,762 things that we can look at when 4619 02:27:13,762 --> 02:27:14,162 that time comes. 4620 02:27:14,162 --> 02:27:14,596 >> okay. 4621 02:27:14,596 --> 02:27:16,596 Thanks, rich. 4622 02:27:16,966 --> 02:27:18,533 You're welcome. 4623 02:27:18,533 --> 02:27:22,733 And I'll turn the time over to 4624 02:27:26,441 --> 02:27:28,441 chief phipps. 4625 02:27:30,346 --> 02:27:31,146 Thank you, rich. 4626 02:27:31,146 --> 02:27:31,847 Good evening, mayor and city 4627 02:27:31,847 --> 02:27:34,490 council members ryan his chief 4628 02:27:34,490 --> 02:27:34,750 of police here to give an 4629 02:27:34,750 --> 02:27:37,686 update on the council priority 4630 02:27:37,686 --> 02:27:40,686 of public safety and social 4631 02:27:41,456 --> 02:27:42,457 wellness as a reminder the 4632 02:27:42,457 --> 02:27:43,920 goals here are to ensure a high 4633 02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:43,792 level of public safety by 4634 02:27:43,792 --> 02:27:45,428 building on efforts to support 4635 02:27:45,428 --> 02:27:45,928 an effective and innovative 4636 02:27:45,928 --> 02:27:46,594 police department. 4637 02:27:46,594 --> 02:27:48,994 A proactive response police 4638 02:27:49,431 --> 02:27:50,990 response to crime trends. 4639 02:27:50,990 --> 02:27:50,799 Joint agency responses to 4640 02:27:50,799 --> 02:27:53,199 homelessness and mental health 4641 02:27:54,169 --> 02:27:54,870 challenges to crime prevention 4642 02:27:54,870 --> 02:27:56,738 partnerships and partnerships 4643 02:27:56,738 --> 02:27:57,606 in neighborhoods or programs 4644 02:27:57,606 --> 02:28:00,600 and neighborhoods the downtown 4645 02:28:00,842 --> 02:28:01,610 and other commercial areas 4646 02:28:01,610 --> 02:28:02,310 impervious to traffic, transit, 4647 02:28:02,310 --> 02:28:05,310 pedestrian and bike safety and 4648 02:28:05,347 --> 02:28:06,480 community and egional disaster 4649 02:28:06,480 --> 02:28:06,749 preparation and resiliency to 4650 02:28:06,749 --> 02:28:09,149 meet the increasing challenges 4651 02:28:09,184 --> 02:28:09,985 of wildfires, earthquakes, 4652 02:28:09,985 --> 02:28:12,385 droughts, floods and other 4653 02:28:12,454 --> 02:28:13,222 hazards. 4654 02:28:13,222 --> 02:28:13,889 So the first strategic 4655 02:28:13,889 --> 02:28:14,624 objective is to maintain an 4656 02:28:14,624 --> 02:28:17,240 effective and innovative police 4657 02:28:17,226 --> 02:28:18,260 department and I spoken a lot 4658 02:28:18,260 --> 02:28:20,830 about the need to do a 4659 02:28:20,830 --> 02:28:21,497 technology audit to ensure that 4660 02:28:21,497 --> 02:28:23,897 we're not using overlapping 4661 02:28:24,833 --> 02:28:25,668 technologies and so the idea 4662 02:28:25,668 --> 02:28:28,771 here is to get not only more 4663 02:28:28,771 --> 02:28:29,338 fiscally lean but also to 4664 02:28:29,338 --> 02:28:30,500 become more efficient. 4665 02:28:30,500 --> 02:28:33,800 So I am pleased to report we 4666 02:28:33,800 --> 02:28:36,800 have submitted into an rfp 4667 02:28:36,312 --> 02:28:36,546 process for a new cat or mouse 4668 02:28:36,546 --> 02:28:37,613 . 4669 02:28:37,613 --> 02:28:38,280 We did field test a couple of 4670 02:28:38,280 --> 02:28:40,616 different vendors for that. 4671 02:28:40,616 --> 02:28:41,384 We have not yet received any 4672 02:28:41,384 --> 02:28:44,653 proposals yet so I don't know 4673 02:28:44,653 --> 02:28:45,288 if the ones that we evaluated 4674 02:28:45,288 --> 02:28:47,490 will be a part of this rfp 4675 02:28:47,490 --> 02:28:49,890 process but we're actively 4676 02:28:51,460 --> 02:28:52,295 underway here as far as patrol 4677 02:28:52,295 --> 02:28:52,995 technology we are evaluating 4678 02:28:52,995 --> 02:28:55,970 the addition of in-car cameras 4679 02:28:55,970 --> 02:28:55,965 to the patrol fleet. 4680 02:28:55,965 --> 02:28:56,632 Those are commonly referred to 4681 02:28:56,632 --> 02:28:58,768 as dash cameras but they're 4682 02:28:58,768 --> 02:28:59,369 actually not mounted to the 4683 02:28:59,369 --> 02:29:00,690 dash anymore. 4684 02:29:00,690 --> 02:29:00,803 They're mounted behind the or 4685 02:29:00,803 --> 02:29:02,872 in front I guess in front of 4686 02:29:02,872 --> 02:29:03,339 and between the windshield the 4687 02:29:03,339 --> 02:29:05,339 rearview mirror. 4688 02:29:06,609 --> 02:29:10,209 So so that system in addition 4689 02:29:10,613 --> 02:29:11,280 to a camera system that covers 4690 02:29:11,280 --> 02:29:13,383 the prisoner bay is under 4691 02:29:13,383 --> 02:29:14,451 evaluation. 4692 02:29:14,451 --> 02:29:15,151 I'm not sure if we're going to 4693 02:29:15,151 --> 02:29:17,253 end up purchasing those but it 4694 02:29:17,253 --> 02:29:17,854 is something we're actively 4695 02:29:17,854 --> 02:29:18,521 evaluating. 4696 02:29:18,521 --> 02:29:20,921 Social media engagement has 4697 02:29:21,958 --> 02:29:22,592 jumped since the last quarter. 4698 02:29:22,592 --> 02:29:24,861 It's it's up the instagram 4699 02:29:24,861 --> 02:29:27,261 followers have increased by 4700 02:29:28,431 --> 02:29:31,431 7000 and then with the facebook 4701 02:29:36,139 --> 02:29:36,840 is always probably more 4702 02:29:36,840 --> 02:29:39,742 utilized broadly and we're now 4703 02:29:39,742 --> 02:29:40,543 up to 30 5000 followers for 4704 02:29:40,543 --> 02:29:43,446 that for that part of our 4705 02:29:43,446 --> 02:29:44,800 social media city wide camera 4706 02:29:44,800 --> 02:29:46,480 systems e're continuing to 4707 02:29:46,716 --> 02:29:47,350 evaluate management, manage 4708 02:29:47,350 --> 02:29:49,350 camera technology there. 4709 02:29:50,853 --> 02:29:51,654 And then with respect to our 4710 02:29:51,654 --> 02:29:52,455 license plate reader cameras, I 4711 02:29:52,455 --> 02:29:54,858 did make a comment I think at 4712 02:29:54,858 --> 02:29:55,458 the last meeting that we are 4713 02:29:55,458 --> 02:29:57,458 evaluating and actually 4714 02:29:58,394 --> 02:30:01,394 building a public acing portal 4715 02:30:01,764 --> 02:30:02,565 to outline not just the best 4716 02:30:02,565 --> 02:30:05,565 practices with respect to data 4717 02:30:06,690 --> 02:30:06,936 sharing from lpr cameras but 4718 02:30:06,936 --> 02:30:07,704 also who we share it with and 4719 02:30:07,704 --> 02:30:10,704 we plan on updating that 4720 02:30:14,430 --> 02:30:14,745 frequently with respect to 4721 02:30:14,745 --> 02:30:15,412 continuing proactive response 4722 02:30:15,412 --> 02:30:18,820 to crime trends and with the 4723 02:30:18,820 --> 02:30:18,782 community involvement we we are 4724 02:30:18,782 --> 02:30:21,485 continuing to host coffee with 4725 02:30:21,485 --> 02:30:23,485 the cop events. 4726 02:30:24,254 --> 02:30:24,921 The last one was on JUNE 16th 4727 02:30:24,921 --> 02:30:25,355 and a national night out was 4728 02:30:25,355 --> 02:30:26,890 well attended. 4729 02:30:26,890 --> 02:30:28,240 We'll get to that in just a 4730 02:30:28,240 --> 02:30:28,825 little bit. 4731 02:30:28,825 --> 02:30:31,825 Officers in addition to going 4732 02:30:32,129 --> 02:30:32,829 to national night out did also 4733 02:30:32,829 --> 02:30:32,992 attend a bunch of neighborhood 4734 02:30:32,992 --> 02:30:34,992 - 4735 02:30:36,366 --> 02:30:39,236 block parties which is that the 4736 02:30:39,236 --> 02:30:40,104 more traditional way that that 4737 02:30:40,104 --> 02:30:43,704 national night out is run but 4738 02:30:43,973 --> 02:30:44,642 we also found that we got a lot 4739 02:30:44,642 --> 02:30:45,309 of great engagement and 4740 02:30:45,309 --> 02:30:47,709 participation by by hosting 4741 02:30:48,178 --> 02:30:51,778 added broadway plaza so so that 4742 02:30:54,517 --> 02:30:55,385 will continue and of about 85 4743 02:30:55,385 --> 02:30:57,854 or 90% done with one on one 4744 02:30:57,854 --> 02:30:58,755 meetings with all of our staff 4745 02:30:58,755 --> 02:30:59,456 and these are these are with 4746 02:30:59,456 --> 02:31:01,859 everyone these are with our 4747 02:31:01,859 --> 02:31:04,859 sworn police officers and with 4748 02:31:05,262 --> 02:31:05,863 our professional staff to try 4749 02:31:05,863 --> 02:31:08,263 another room to improve 4750 02:31:08,832 --> 02:31:09,499 communication in the department 4751 02:31:09,499 --> 02:31:10,267 of communication. 4752 02:31:10,267 --> 02:31:12,770 But also the goal is to develop 4753 02:31:12,770 --> 02:31:15,770 action items with the themes 4754 02:31:16,940 --> 02:31:17,575 that I co-lead from all of 4755 02:31:17,575 --> 02:31:18,275 those one on ones and with 4756 02:31:18,275 --> 02:31:20,675 respect to crime, intelligence 4757 02:31:21,478 --> 02:31:22,212 and analysis we've been with 4758 02:31:22,212 --> 02:31:25,515 peregrine now for a couple of 4759 02:31:25,515 --> 02:31:28,786 years and the the things that 4760 02:31:28,786 --> 02:31:29,453 this program can o we're 4761 02:31:29,453 --> 02:31:29,720 finding more and more every 4762 02:31:29,720 --> 02:31:31,720 day. 4763 02:31:32,423 --> 02:31:33,900 In fact currently working on a 4764 02:31:33,900 --> 02:31:35,900 new dashboard informational 4765 02:31:35,993 --> 02:31:37,280 dashboard for the council as 4766 02:31:37,280 --> 02:31:41,828 well as a post not a post but 4767 02:31:44,402 --> 02:31:45,350 sort of a change in how that 4768 02:31:45,350 --> 02:31:45,569 information is delivered. 4769 02:31:45,569 --> 02:31:47,604 So instead of excel 4770 02:31:47,604 --> 02:31:48,239 spreadsheets and numbers and 4771 02:31:48,239 --> 02:31:50,639 analysis you'll receive a 4772 02:31:51,742 --> 02:31:52,643 little bit more of a thorough 4773 02:31:52,643 --> 02:31:55,445 visual breakdown of of of what 4774 02:31:55,445 --> 02:31:56,447 you need to know. 4775 02:31:56,447 --> 02:31:59,984 And I would be remiss if I 4776 02:31:59,984 --> 02:32:00,585 didn't plug the next coffee 4777 02:32:00,585 --> 02:32:02,253 with the cop which is on 4778 02:32:02,253 --> 02:32:05,253 SEPTEMBER 8th at nordstrom at 4779 02:32:05,956 --> 02:32:08,956 9:30 A.M. Where nordstrom the 4780 02:32:09,193 --> 02:32:09,894 coffee shop at nordstrom and 4781 02:32:09,894 --> 02:32:12,497 one downstairs that would make 4782 02:32:12,497 --> 02:32:15,497 it easy for people yeah 4783 02:32:16,660 --> 02:32:16,901 national night out this was we 4784 02:32:16,901 --> 02:32:19,436 we had a good attendance as 4785 02:32:19,436 --> 02:32:20,370 well but 400 people were in 4786 02:32:20,370 --> 02:32:22,437 attendance for for this 4787 02:32:22,741 --> 02:32:23,574 national night out we continue 4788 02:32:23,574 --> 02:32:27,174 to see good crowds every year 4789 02:32:27,678 --> 02:32:30,148 again it's it's it's very 4790 02:32:30,148 --> 02:32:30,982 beneficial to us that in such a 4791 02:32:30,982 --> 02:32:33,982 a welcoming venue such as 4792 02:32:34,552 --> 02:32:36,552 broadway plaza. 4793 02:32:38,222 --> 02:32:39,230 >> strategic objective number 4794 02:32:39,230 --> 02:32:39,690 three coordinate joint agency 4795 02:32:39,690 --> 02:32:42,260 response to homelessness and 4796 02:32:42,260 --> 02:32:42,861 mental health challenges. 4797 02:32:42,861 --> 02:32:43,494 hop continues to collaborate 4798 02:32:43,494 --> 02:32:46,264 with the city and with the 4799 02:32:46,264 --> 02:32:46,864 county and different resources 4800 02:32:46,864 --> 02:32:49,264 to to address people 4801 02:32:50,680 --> 02:32:51,690 experiencing homelessness. 4802 02:32:51,690 --> 02:32:51,736 I am pleased to report that 4803 02:32:51,736 --> 02:32:54,136 there aren't any established 4804 02:32:54,172 --> 02:32:55,600 encampments in city limits as I 4805 02:32:55,600 --> 02:32:59,206 think I did the last quarter as 4806 02:33:01,450 --> 02:33:03,445 well ith strategic objective 4807 02:33:04,150 --> 02:33:04,682 number four which is to develop 4808 02:33:04,682 --> 02:33:05,116 crime prevention partnership 4809 02:33:05,116 --> 02:33:07,116 and programs. 4810 02:33:07,418 --> 02:33:08,219 We continue business watch. 4811 02:33:08,219 --> 02:33:11,222 This was the brainchild of our 4812 02:33:11,222 --> 02:33:11,623 crime prevention specialist 4813 02:33:11,623 --> 02:33:13,623 cara ramon. 4814 02:33:15,127 --> 02:33:16,940 This initially started off as a 4815 02:33:16,940 --> 02:33:19,940 crime free business model which 4816 02:33:19,531 --> 02:33:23,702 is the more common way to to to 4817 02:33:23,702 --> 02:33:24,200 build something like business 4818 02:33:24,200 --> 02:33:24,669 watch. 4819 02:33:24,669 --> 02:33:25,237 >> but cara took that in and 4820 02:33:25,237 --> 02:33:27,720 ran with the concept. 4821 02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:27,739 So we've hosted a few meetings 4822 02:33:27,739 --> 02:33:30,742 to this point four events so 4823 02:33:30,742 --> 02:33:31,376 far this year they re 4824 02:33:31,376 --> 02:33:33,776 increasingly getting to be 4825 02:33:34,679 --> 02:33:35,446 better attended and the idea is 4826 02:33:35,446 --> 02:33:36,147 to have businesses commuting 4827 02:33:36,147 --> 02:33:38,547 communicating with each other 4828 02:33:38,617 --> 02:33:39,418 so that if you see something 4829 02:33:39,418 --> 02:33:40,850 say something but also to open 4830 02:33:40,850 --> 02:33:42,540 up lines of communication to 4831 02:33:42,540 --> 02:33:45,540 the police department with that 4832 02:33:45,924 --> 02:33:46,725 detectives our detective bureau 4833 02:33:46,725 --> 02:33:49,394 presented on fraud, robbery and 4834 02:33:49,394 --> 02:33:50,262 business related crime business 4835 02:33:50,262 --> 02:33:52,797 watch lunch and learn on the 4836 02:33:52,797 --> 02:33:56,397 18th of AUGUST and then the 4837 02:33:57,269 --> 02:33:57,969 crime prevention specialist 4838 02:33:57,969 --> 02:33:59,969 completed three environmental 4839 02:34:00,939 --> 02:34:01,740 design evaluations of local 4840 02:34:01,740 --> 02:34:02,574 businesses and what that is 4841 02:34:02,574 --> 02:34:04,843 that's a service that we offer 4842 02:34:04,843 --> 02:34:05,511 where the crime prevention 4843 02:34:05,511 --> 02:34:08,113 specialist will go and make 4844 02:34:08,113 --> 02:34:08,814 environmental recommendations 4845 02:34:08,814 --> 02:34:11,814 to the business to increase 4846 02:34:11,850 --> 02:34:12,751 security and lower the chances 4847 02:34:12,751 --> 02:34:13,251 that they could become he 4848 02:34:13,251 --> 02:34:13,952 victim of a crime. 4849 02:34:13,952 --> 02:34:16,221 >> and the neighborhood watch 4850 02:34:16,221 --> 02:34:19,221 program we we we've restored 4851 02:34:19,758 --> 02:34:20,259 that up but it's starting to 4852 02:34:20,259 --> 02:34:20,959 grow a little bit. 4853 02:34:20,959 --> 02:34:23,395 But again, that's the the 4854 02:34:23,395 --> 02:34:25,795 revamp from our crime 4855 02:34:26,932 --> 02:34:28,932 prevention specialist with 4856 02:34:29,368 --> 02:34:30,350 strategic objective number five 4857 02:34:30,350 --> 02:34:32,435 to improve traffic transit 4858 02:34:33,272 --> 02:34:34,106 pedestrian and bicycle safety I 4859 02:34:34,106 --> 02:34:34,840 am pleased to report the 4860 02:34:34,840 --> 02:34:36,775 overall traffic collisions have 4861 02:34:36,775 --> 02:34:37,242 decreased 11% compared to this 4862 02:34:37,242 --> 02:34:39,242 point last year. 4863 02:34:39,578 --> 02:34:40,479 Duis we're seeing a lot more 4864 02:34:40,479 --> 02:34:43,479 dui arrests and that's probably 4865 02:34:43,682 --> 02:34:44,516 due to our officers comfort 4866 02:34:44,516 --> 02:34:47,887 level based on some of the 4867 02:34:47,887 --> 02:34:48,587 training that they've received. 4868 02:34:48,587 --> 02:34:51,587 They ypically when an officer 4869 02:34:51,723 --> 02:34:52,458 is is they go through the 4870 02:34:52,458 --> 02:34:54,726 police academy, they do receive 4871 02:34:54,726 --> 02:34:55,661 some level of training as to 4872 02:34:55,661 --> 02:34:56,950 alcohol and drug detection from 4873 02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:58,950 from drivers. 4874 02:34:59,665 --> 02:35:00,332 But until you go through a more 4875 02:35:00,332 --> 02:35:02,332 specialized class, sometimes 4876 02:35:03,135 --> 02:35:03,970 those things can can slip by. 4877 02:35:03,970 --> 02:35:06,705 So we did send a number of 4878 02:35:06,705 --> 02:35:07,506 officers to that training 4879 02:35:07,506 --> 02:35:08,141 several years ago or three 4880 02:35:08,141 --> 02:35:10,420 years ago now and now it's 4881 02:35:10,420 --> 02:35:10,843 starting to take hold with the 4882 02:35:10,843 --> 02:35:13,679 I mean we can't really use 4883 02:35:13,679 --> 02:35:14,680 covid as an excuse anymore but 4884 02:35:14,680 --> 02:35:15,314 we did hire a number of 4885 02:35:15,314 --> 02:35:17,714 officers through covid and 4886 02:35:18,584 --> 02:35:19,251 getting them used to going out 4887 02:35:19,251 --> 02:35:21,520 and making traffic stops and 4888 02:35:21,520 --> 02:35:22,321 educating the public again was 4889 02:35:22,321 --> 02:35:25,321 it was a bit trying. 4890 02:35:25,524 --> 02:35:26,158 So we're there now we're making 4891 02:35:26,158 --> 02:35:28,558 traffic stops route and 4892 02:35:29,429 --> 02:35:30,620 educating the public ut one of 4893 02:35:30,620 --> 02:35:30,729 the products of that is an 4894 02:35:30,729 --> 02:35:32,965 increase in dui arrests over 4895 02:35:32,965 --> 02:35:35,965 the nighttime and weekend hours 4896 02:35:36,436 --> 02:35:37,436 today or since SEPTEMBER of 4897 02:35:37,436 --> 02:35:40,436 last year we're at 118 arrests. 4898 02:35:43,109 --> 02:35:45,778 But I will note that in 2025 4899 02:35:45,778 --> 02:35:46,779 year to date 2025 so JANUARY 4900 02:35:46,779 --> 02:35:50,379 1st to SEPTEMBER 1st we had 49 4901 02:35:50,450 --> 02:35:51,117 dui arrests and since then or 4902 02:35:51,117 --> 02:35:53,953 since JANUARY of this year, 4903 02:35:53,953 --> 02:35:54,720 year to date we have 89. 4904 02:35:54,720 --> 02:35:57,720 So it's quite a significant 4905 02:35:58,230 --> 02:36:01,623 increase in one that is a 4906 02:36:01,661 --> 02:36:02,328 little surprising kind of given 4907 02:36:02,328 --> 02:36:05,928 the ride share that are out 4908 02:36:05,932 --> 02:36:06,766 there and the opportunities for 4909 02:36:06,766 --> 02:36:09,536 folks to not drive impaired. 4910 02:36:09,536 --> 02:36:10,369 But now that we're now that 4911 02:36:10,369 --> 02:36:11,400 we're out there stopping them 4912 02:36:11,400 --> 02:36:12,204 there, they're being held 4913 02:36:12,204 --> 02:36:14,604 accountable if they're driving 4914 02:36:16,276 --> 02:36:17,510 impaired. 4915 02:36:17,510 --> 02:36:20,647 And I did MISS One thing for 4916 02:36:20,647 --> 02:36:21,347 pedestrians safety month we are 4917 02:36:21,347 --> 02:36:21,947 partnering with rossmore on a 4918 02:36:21,947 --> 02:36:23,947 presentation planned for 4919 02:36:24,170 --> 02:36:24,951 OCTOBER. 4920 02:36:24,951 --> 02:36:27,220 >> those are always well 4921 02:36:27,220 --> 02:36:28,210 attended for strategic 4922 02:36:28,210 --> 02:36:28,688 strategic objective number five 4923 02:36:28,688 --> 02:36:31,524 which is to improve traffic 4924 02:36:31,524 --> 02:36:31,992 transit pedestrian base, 4925 02:36:31,992 --> 02:36:32,759 bicycle safety. 4926 02:36:32,759 --> 02:36:36,359 We continue to work with public 4927 02:36:38,764 --> 02:36:39,632 works quarterly to discuss not 4928 02:36:39,632 --> 02:36:40,299 just engineering projects but 4929 02:36:40,299 --> 02:36:42,699 also community feedback and 4930 02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:43,736 evaluate roadway conditions and 4931 02:36:43,736 --> 02:36:44,271 to review crash details after 4932 02:36:44,271 --> 02:36:45,500 serious collisions. 4933 02:36:45,500 --> 02:36:46,974 So one thing that actually came 4934 02:36:46,974 --> 02:36:50,543 up in our chiefs advisory board 4935 02:36:50,543 --> 02:36:51,411 meeting was fairly minor 4936 02:36:51,411 --> 02:36:52,179 detail about a local parking 4937 02:36:52,179 --> 02:36:55,810 lot coming out onto a public 4938 02:36:55,810 --> 02:36:55,715 roadway that captain slater has 4939 02:36:55,715 --> 02:36:58,584 since started to work with 4940 02:36:58,584 --> 02:36:59,352 traffic engineering to see if 4941 02:36:59,352 --> 02:37:02,222 we can come up with a solution 4942 02:37:02,222 --> 02:37:02,822 for so well we'll take it from 4943 02:37:02,822 --> 02:37:03,489 anywhere we can get it. 4944 02:37:03,489 --> 02:37:05,889 Any suggestions or feedback? 4945 02:37:06,459 --> 02:37:07,127 We're certainly open to and we 4946 02:37:07,127 --> 02:37:09,495 want to improve our roadway 4947 02:37:09,495 --> 02:37:13,950 safety as much as possible on 4948 02:37:13,767 --> 02:37:17,337 e-bikes so we receive it pretty 4949 02:37:17,337 --> 02:37:18,500 regularly. 4950 02:37:18,500 --> 02:37:18,605 Complaints about reckless 4951 02:37:18,605 --> 02:37:19,339 e-bike riders and I know 4952 02:37:19,339 --> 02:37:22,939 council member dave any of this 4953 02:37:23,543 --> 02:37:26,914 is a passion project of yours 4954 02:37:26,914 --> 02:37:27,648 and so I am pleased to report 4955 02:37:27,648 --> 02:37:30,717 that we participated in a joint 4956 02:37:30,717 --> 02:37:31,180 e-bike education on AUGUST 4957 02:37:31,180 --> 02:37:31,752 18th. 4958 02:37:31,752 --> 02:37:34,752 So nine agencies in total 4959 02:37:35,923 --> 02:37:36,623 participated and we were one of 4960 02:37:36,623 --> 02:37:38,458 them 45 officers and that's I 4961 02:37:38,458 --> 02:37:39,326 don't think they're all 4962 02:37:39,326 --> 02:37:42,926 pictured there but you see the 4963 02:37:43,263 --> 02:37:43,964 numbers there and this is not 4964 02:37:43,964 --> 02:37:46,964 just specific to walnut creek. 4965 02:37:47,101 --> 02:37:47,801 This is this is a growing issue 4966 02:37:47,801 --> 02:37:50,201 everywhere and obviously with 4967 02:37:50,905 --> 02:37:51,605 respect to e-bikes and and 4968 02:37:51,605 --> 02:37:54,605 motorcycles, we want to ensure 4969 02:37:54,608 --> 02:37:55,542 that people are safe. 4970 02:37:55,542 --> 02:37:56,177 We want to ensure that there 4971 02:37:56,177 --> 02:37:58,450 are license and we want to 4972 02:37:58,450 --> 02:37:58,645 ensure that the public around 4973 02:37:58,645 --> 02:38:00,645 them is safe. 4974 02:38:01,715 --> 02:38:04,115 So 194 contacts total made 56 4975 02:38:04,385 --> 02:38:05,850 tickets were issued a 137 4976 02:38:05,850 --> 02:38:07,485 warnings or education contacts 4977 02:38:07,955 --> 02:38:08,789 were made. 4978 02:38:08,789 --> 02:38:09,423 One was arrested for drug 4979 02:38:09,423 --> 02:38:11,823 possession which is always 4980 02:38:13,227 --> 02:38:13,894 surprising to me on an e-bike 4981 02:38:13,894 --> 02:38:16,330 and then we towed one for I 4982 02:38:16,330 --> 02:38:17,310 believe being unlicensed with 4983 02:38:17,310 --> 02:38:20,310 the next operation planned for 4984 02:38:23,771 --> 02:38:24,538 SEPTEMBER 17th with respect to 4985 02:38:24,538 --> 02:38:25,272 strategic objective number six 4986 02:38:25,272 --> 02:38:27,674 which is community and regional 4987 02:38:27,674 --> 02:38:28,376 disaster preparation we 4988 02:38:28,376 --> 02:38:31,376 provided we were provided with 4989 02:38:35,148 --> 02:38:36,150 updated training on when. 4990 02:38:36,150 --> 02:38:38,986 This was at one of our command 4991 02:38:38,986 --> 02:38:40,870 staff meetings a representative 4992 02:38:40,870 --> 02:38:43,591 from cw us came and made sure 4993 02:38:43,591 --> 02:38:44,291 that we were all signed up for 4994 02:38:44,291 --> 02:38:47,280 the alerts and we were but but 4995 02:38:47,280 --> 02:38:47,762 he also assured us that the 4996 02:38:47,762 --> 02:38:48,462 system is working properly. 4997 02:38:48,462 --> 02:38:49,630 there are times that sometimes 4998 02:38:49,630 --> 02:38:51,699 we don't feel like we're 4999 02:38:51,699 --> 02:38:52,733 getting all the alerts there. 5000 02:38:52,733 --> 02:38:56,933 They assure us that we are and 5001 02:38:58,172 --> 02:38:59,206 so we are now well informed. 5002 02:38:59,206 --> 02:39:02,610 >> now I'll open it up to 5003 02:39:02,610 --> 02:39:02,977 questions if any of you MAY 5004 02:39:02,977 --> 02:39:03,677 have some. 5005 02:39:03,677 --> 02:39:06,470 >> is is officer young feeling 5006 02:39:06,470 --> 02:39:09,500 the pressure of people that are 5007 02:39:09,500 --> 02:39:09,650 going to be on his tails for 5008 02:39:09,650 --> 02:39:12,500 the award next year? 5009 02:39:13,880 --> 02:39:13,888 >> I can't speak for him but he 5010 02:39:13,888 --> 02:39:16,491 should be which is a good 5011 02:39:16,491 --> 02:39:17,291 problem for us and the 5012 02:39:17,291 --> 02:39:20,291 community frankly I as just 5013 02:39:21,262 --> 02:39:21,929 curious on the cwc how is that 5014 02:39:21,929 --> 02:39:24,665 different from so because I 5015 02:39:24,665 --> 02:39:27,735 think I guess nixon alerts yes 5016 02:39:27,735 --> 02:39:30,505 so cwc is countywide it's the 5017 02:39:30,505 --> 02:39:31,272 county emergency system as 5018 02:39:31,272 --> 02:39:31,940 opposed to everbridge which is 5019 02:39:31,940 --> 02:39:32,374 one that we have within the 5020 02:39:32,374 --> 02:39:34,374 city as well. 5021 02:39:35,710 --> 02:39:36,277 So we make the call when it 5022 02:39:36,277 --> 02:39:38,212 goes out on next hold. 5023 02:39:38,212 --> 02:39:38,779 Correct the call on cwa? 5024 02:39:38,779 --> 02:39:39,513 >> correct. 5025 02:39:39,513 --> 02:39:42,149 So we MAY never hear from them. 5026 02:39:42,149 --> 02:39:46,200 We MAY not but if we make the 5027 02:39:46,200 --> 02:39:46,988 requests from them they will 5028 02:39:46,988 --> 02:39:47,421 make sure that t gets to the 5029 02:39:47,421 --> 02:39:47,722 right people. 5030 02:39:47,722 --> 02:39:48,423 Okay. 5031 02:39:48,423 --> 02:39:50,424 What's the I mean what is the 5032 02:39:50,424 --> 02:39:52,824 difference like a refinery 5033 02:39:53,794 --> 02:39:54,562 blows up coverage? 5034 02:39:54,562 --> 02:39:55,262 Yeah, well coverage between 5035 02:39:55,262 --> 02:39:57,662 that and everbridge coverage. 5036 02:39:57,833 --> 02:39:58,433 Okay. 5037 02:39:58,433 --> 02:39:58,733 >> thank you. 5038 02:39:58,733 --> 02:40:00,733 Right. 5039 02:40:05,307 --> 02:40:06,700 I think oh what is this we 5040 02:40:06,700 --> 02:40:06,708 frequently hear comments that 5041 02:40:06,708 --> 02:40:09,708 why aren't we just banning 5042 02:40:10,678 --> 02:40:13,581 e-bikes outright like down and 5043 02:40:13,581 --> 02:40:17,850 I kind know what is what's 5044 02:40:17,850 --> 02:40:17,886 really going on at the this 5045 02:40:17,886 --> 02:40:20,255 regional level so you have to 5046 02:40:20,255 --> 02:40:21,230 work regionally because people 5047 02:40:21,230 --> 02:40:23,423 are crossing borders faster 5048 02:40:24,292 --> 02:40:25,260 than they used to but well and 5049 02:40:25,260 --> 02:40:28,260 you know without giving away 5050 02:40:28,630 --> 02:40:30,463 too many trade secrets 5051 02:40:31,232 --> 02:40:31,933 sometimes a planned e-bike 5052 02:40:31,933 --> 02:40:32,300 enforcement operation is the 5053 02:40:32,300 --> 02:40:34,300 way to go. 5054 02:40:35,937 --> 02:40:36,605 >> the regionally this works 5055 02:40:36,605 --> 02:40:39,605 better because just to your 5056 02:40:40,410 --> 02:40:40,876 point, councilmember silva it 5057 02:40:40,876 --> 02:40:41,376 is it is people do kind of 5058 02:40:41,376 --> 02:40:43,376 crossover borders. 5059 02:40:43,812 --> 02:40:44,479 Te california the jurisdiction 5060 02:40:44,479 --> 02:40:47,150 isn't an issue it's it's the 5061 02:40:47,150 --> 02:40:47,916 personnel and making sure that 5062 02:40:47,916 --> 02:40:48,650 we have the personnel o catch 5063 02:40:48,650 --> 02:40:50,180 people on the other end if they 5064 02:40:50,180 --> 02:40:50,919 take off. 5065 02:40:50,919 --> 02:40:51,653 One thing we're not going to do 5066 02:40:51,653 --> 02:40:54,289 is if it's a danger to public 5067 02:40:54,289 --> 02:40:55,230 safety, if we were to continue 5068 02:40:55,230 --> 02:40:57,626 a pursuit of an e-bike rider or 5069 02:40:57,626 --> 02:40:58,226 an e motorcycle rider, we do 5070 02:40:58,226 --> 02:40:58,960 need to weigh that out. 5071 02:40:58,960 --> 02:41:01,396 And if it's just the violation 5072 02:41:01,396 --> 02:41:02,970 of the e-bike or the the 5073 02:41:02,970 --> 02:41:05,330 driving pattern of the e-bike 5074 02:41:05,330 --> 02:41:05,667 rider as opposed to maybe a 5075 02:41:05,667 --> 02:41:08,670 violent crime that they're 5076 02:41:08,703 --> 02:41:09,370 fleeing from, we have to weigh 5077 02:41:09,370 --> 02:41:11,106 that out when we're deciding 5078 02:41:11,106 --> 02:41:14,106 whether to to continue a 5079 02:41:14,543 --> 02:41:15,277 pursuit. 5080 02:41:15,277 --> 02:41:17,277 >> thank you. 5081 02:41:19,480 --> 02:41:19,881 I think yeah I see e-bikes 5082 02:41:19,881 --> 02:41:20,582 doing well. 5083 02:41:20,582 --> 02:41:21,316 >> leaves go all the way down 5084 02:41:21,316 --> 02:41:22,184 the street in front of my house 5085 02:41:22,184 --> 02:41:23,218 now. 5086 02:41:23,218 --> 02:41:23,952 >> yeah and you know that's 5087 02:41:23,952 --> 02:41:26,355 certainly unsafe and if we were 5088 02:41:26,355 --> 02:41:27,890 to catch that then we would 5089 02:41:27,890 --> 02:41:30,580 initiate a traffic stop on them 5090 02:41:30,580 --> 02:41:31,920 and write a citation. 5091 02:41:31,920 --> 02:41:31,760 >> two weeks ago after this 5092 02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:34,950 meeting I pulled out of the 5093 02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:34,796 parking lot was going south on 5094 02:41:34,796 --> 02:41:37,196 south broadway for north 5095 02:41:37,266 --> 02:41:38,166 broadway and there were two 5096 02:41:38,166 --> 02:41:38,834 coming at me from his side and 5097 02:41:38,834 --> 02:41:41,536 one coming at me from this. 5098 02:41:41,536 --> 02:41:42,238 They were clearly in the street 5099 02:41:42,238 --> 02:41:43,805 but I couldn't even figure out 5100 02:41:43,805 --> 02:41:45,805 what it was. 5101 02:41:48,410 --> 02:41:49,311 >> it was just I liked maybe 5102 02:41:49,311 --> 02:41:51,614 they had a light because you 5103 02:41:51,614 --> 02:41:52,814 were probably ahead of me. 5104 02:41:52,814 --> 02:41:53,416 >> oh and I do see legislation 5105 02:41:53,416 --> 02:41:55,450 coming down the pipeline 5106 02:41:55,450 --> 02:41:56,850 eventually to to regulate these 5107 02:41:56,850 --> 02:41:59,550 a little bit more closely. 5108 02:41:59,550 --> 02:41:59,688 But I won't comment on any 5109 02:41:59,688 --> 02:42:02,880 other city ordinance that 5110 02:42:02,758 --> 02:42:06,358 outright bans them but I don't 5111 02:42:06,795 --> 02:42:07,496 know if they're having any 5112 02:42:07,496 --> 02:42:10,650 success with that to be frank. 5113 02:42:10,650 --> 02:42:10,900 >> you know, since we're on the 5114 02:42:10,900 --> 02:42:13,969 topic just today I spoke with 5115 02:42:13,969 --> 02:42:14,670 our emergency medical care 5116 02:42:14,670 --> 02:42:17,670 committee which is a committee 5117 02:42:18,700 --> 02:42:21,430 at the county level and about 5118 02:42:21,430 --> 02:42:22,178 e-bikes and bike safety. 5119 02:42:22,178 --> 02:42:24,480 And so I hope that in the near 5120 02:42:24,480 --> 02:42:26,880 future they'll be stronger 5121 02:42:28,317 --> 02:42:29,184 county wide coordination and 5122 02:42:29,184 --> 02:42:32,184 we'll certainly bring that back 5123 02:42:32,254 --> 02:42:32,855 as soon as I hear more. 5124 02:42:32,855 --> 02:42:34,855 >> excellent. 5125 02:42:36,225 --> 02:42:36,992 Q thank you. 5126 02:42:36,992 --> 02:42:37,860 >> gibbs my pleasure. 5127 02:42:37,860 --> 02:42:38,327 I will now turn it back over to 5128 02:42:38,327 --> 02:42:40,327 joe for closing. 5129 02:42:42,650 --> 02:42:42,598 >> thank you for lunch. 5130 02:42:42,598 --> 02:42:44,598 All right. 5131 02:42:46,368 --> 02:42:46,936 Wll thank you o all of our 5132 02:42:46,936 --> 02:42:47,536 leads for presenting. 5133 02:42:47,536 --> 02:42:49,936 So tonight we discussed 5134 02:42:50,105 --> 02:42:50,539 priorities from 2025 and 2026 5135 02:42:50,539 --> 02:42:52,539 calendar year. 5136 02:42:53,576 --> 02:42:56,378 Believe it or not, 2027 is 5137 02:42:56,378 --> 02:42:56,612 going to get here very quickly 5138 02:42:56,612 --> 02:42:57,447 . 5139 02:42:57,447 --> 02:42:58,181 >> so city council will soon be 5140 02:42:58,181 --> 02:43:01,181 identifying a new set of 5141 02:43:01,217 --> 02:43:01,684 priorities for those two 5142 02:43:01,684 --> 02:43:02,585 calendar years. 5143 02:43:02,585 --> 02:43:05,870 >> so I want to talk a little 5144 02:43:05,870 --> 02:43:06,289 bit about that. 5145 02:43:06,289 --> 02:43:08,791 So at the MAY 19th city council 5146 02:43:08,791 --> 02:43:11,191 meeting city council did 5147 02:43:11,961 --> 02:43:12,595 approve staff to go forward to 5148 02:43:12,595 --> 02:43:14,995 conduct outreach with the 5149 02:43:16,650 --> 02:43:16,732 community to help inform 5150 02:43:16,732 --> 02:43:19,732 development of the next two 5151 02:43:20,270 --> 02:43:22,670 calendar year priority cycle. 5152 02:43:23,940 --> 02:43:24,741 >> so since then staff has 5153 02:43:24,741 --> 02:43:27,741 developed a wo phased approach 5154 02:43:28,111 --> 02:43:31,111 to to engaging our community 5155 02:43:31,247 --> 02:43:31,548 with an overall theme of your 5156 02:43:31,548 --> 02:43:33,548 voice. 5157 02:43:34,885 --> 02:43:38,287 Our future and phase one was to 5158 02:43:38,287 --> 02:43:39,880 begin with a broad open ended 5159 02:43:39,880 --> 02:43:42,880 community question or an pen 5160 02:43:42,492 --> 02:43:43,293 ended listening to hear what 5161 02:43:43,293 --> 02:43:45,495 issues mattered to the 5162 02:43:45,495 --> 02:43:45,795 community over the next two 5163 02:43:45,795 --> 02:43:46,463 years. 5164 02:43:46,463 --> 02:43:49,265 And so that phase that first 5165 02:43:49,265 --> 02:43:50,660 phase did start this week. 5166 02:43:50,660 --> 02:43:53,660 >> we did launch a inhouse 5167 02:43:53,503 --> 02:43:56,503 designed open ended survey that 5168 02:43:57,373 --> 02:43:58,108 was launched and shared in the 5169 02:43:58,108 --> 02:44:00,977 nutshell which was delivered to 5170 02:44:00,977 --> 02:44:04,581 folks this week and is on our 5171 02:44:04,581 --> 02:44:05,281 city website and it asks the 5172 02:44:05,281 --> 02:44:07,951 question what would you like 5173 02:44:07,951 --> 02:44:10,951 the city to prioritize in 2027 5174 02:44:11,354 --> 02:44:12,189 and 2028 suggest an open field 5175 02:44:12,189 --> 02:44:15,189 share with us what you're 5176 02:44:15,659 --> 02:44:18,270 thinking and that survey will 5177 02:44:18,270 --> 02:44:18,895 be open to the public until 5178 02:44:18,895 --> 02:44:19,629 SEPTEMBER 15th at 5 P.M. And 5179 02:44:19,629 --> 02:44:22,465 I'm just going to go ahead and 5180 02:44:22,465 --> 02:44:25,335 plug you can find it at walnut 5181 02:44:25,335 --> 02:44:26,690 creek see 5182 02:44:26,690 --> 02:44:28,905 a.Gov/council-priorities and we 5183 02:44:28,905 --> 02:44:29,605 will share a social media post 5184 02:44:29,605 --> 02:44:30,373 on that as well. 5185 02:44:30,373 --> 02:44:33,373 >> so the responses we received 5186 02:44:33,610 --> 02:44:35,913 to that open ended survey is 5187 02:44:35,913 --> 02:44:36,947 going to help inform the phase 5188 02:44:36,947 --> 02:44:40,416 two which is a more defined 5189 02:44:40,416 --> 02:44:41,251 community survey where we're 5190 02:44:41,251 --> 02:44:44,455 going to ask the public to to 5191 02:44:44,455 --> 02:44:47,455 rank or rioritize the themes 5192 02:44:47,924 --> 02:44:48,959 of most value to them. 5193 02:44:48,959 --> 02:44:52,262 Those themes will be of course 5194 02:44:52,262 --> 02:44:52,762 informed by this open community 5195 02:44:52,762 --> 02:44:54,762 listening section. 5196 02:44:55,232 --> 02:44:56,330 >> so we're currently 5197 02:44:56,330 --> 02:44:56,867 considering whether that phase 5198 02:44:56,867 --> 02:44:59,603 two survey will be done in 5199 02:44:59,603 --> 02:45:00,270 house more informally or if 5200 02:45:00,270 --> 02:45:00,971 we're going to go ahead and 5201 02:45:00,971 --> 02:45:02,840 pursue the support of a 5202 02:45:02,840 --> 02:45:05,240 consultant especially if we 5203 02:45:06,609 --> 02:45:07,311 find from our phase one that 5204 02:45:07,311 --> 02:45:09,847 there's a lot of complex a lot 5205 02:45:09,847 --> 02:45:10,715 of complexities to the issues 5206 02:45:10,715 --> 02:45:11,481 we receive and then we'll go 5207 02:45:11,481 --> 02:45:14,481 ahead and provide to city 5208 02:45:14,584 --> 02:45:17,755 council the the results of that 5209 02:45:17,755 --> 02:45:21,224 survey to help inform as the 5210 02:45:21,224 --> 02:45:22,226 next priorities are developed 5211 02:45:22,226 --> 02:45:22,559 and that is all I have for 5212 02:45:22,559 --> 02:45:24,559 tonight. 5213 02:45:26,630 --> 02:45:29,630 Any questions about the survey 5214 02:45:29,300 --> 02:45:29,700 or engagement? 5215 02:45:29,700 --> 02:45:30,167 Okay. 5216 02:45:30,167 --> 02:45:32,167 Ask a question. 5217 02:45:33,370 --> 02:45:33,970 Could you send us the link to 5218 02:45:33,970 --> 02:45:36,474 that survey o that we can find 5219 02:45:36,474 --> 02:45:36,874 it and have it handy on our 5220 02:45:36,874 --> 02:45:37,307 device? 5221 02:45:37,307 --> 02:45:37,674 >> absolutely. 5222 02:45:37,674 --> 02:45:38,409 Thank you. 5223 02:45:38,409 --> 02:45:40,744 Will that be promoted on social 5224 02:45:40,744 --> 02:45:41,712 media? 5225 02:45:41,712 --> 02:45:42,120 >> yes, we will do that this 5226 02:45:42,120 --> 02:45:42,313 week. 5227 02:45:42,313 --> 02:45:42,680 Great. 5228 02:45:42,680 --> 02:45:44,680 All right. 5229 02:45:44,949 --> 02:45:45,716 Thank you. 5230 02:45:45,716 --> 02:45:46,316 >> all right. 5231 02:45:46,316 --> 02:45:46,717 Thanks, joe and thanks. 5232 02:45:46,717 --> 02:45:47,985 Thanks team. 5233 02:45:47,985 --> 02:45:48,619 Nice job. 5234 02:45:48,619 --> 02:45:48,986 >> yeah. 5235 02:45:48,986 --> 02:45:50,986 All right. 5236 02:45:55,259 --> 02:45:58,529 Which brings us to our final 5237 02:45:58,529 --> 02:45:59,463 item the public hearing. 5238 02:45:59,463 --> 02:46:00,130 So this is a consideration of 5239 02:46:00,130 --> 02:46:03,670 considering a waiver of the 5240 02:46:03,670 --> 02:46:03,768 reading and introduction of an 5241 02:46:03,768 --> 02:46:04,401 ordinance amending the city of 5242 02:46:04,401 --> 02:46:06,401 walnut creek councilmember 5243 02:46:06,637 --> 02:46:06,937 compensation to a $600 per 5244 02:46:06,937 --> 02:46:08,937 month. 5245 02:46:09,974 --> 02:46:10,808 And I invite human resources 5246 02:46:10,808 --> 02:46:13,208 director tricia raber forward 5247 02:46:24,722 --> 02:46:27,122 to provide the presentation. 5248 02:46:28,793 --> 02:46:29,126 >> good evening mayor. 5249 02:46:29,126 --> 02:46:29,794 Welcome. 5250 02:46:29,794 --> 02:46:30,461 Council members trish raver 5251 02:46:30,461 --> 02:46:32,861 human resources director I'm 5252 02:46:33,310 --> 02:46:34,598 here this evening to rovide a 5253 02:46:34,598 --> 02:46:36,998 brief presentation on council 5254 02:46:38,469 --> 02:46:39,470 compensation. 5255 02:46:39,470 --> 02:46:41,870 The agenda this evening 5256 02:46:43,740 --> 02:46:43,674 includes the history of council 5257 02:46:43,674 --> 02:46:45,674 compensation applicable 5258 02:46:46,711 --> 02:46:48,711 legislation inclusive of 5259 02:46:49,747 --> 02:46:51,747 government code section 36516 5260 02:46:53,170 --> 02:46:54,986 and senate bill 329 as well as 5261 02:46:54,986 --> 02:46:56,986 compensation options for 5262 02:46:58,823 --> 02:47:00,823 council consideration 5263 02:47:03,940 --> 02:47:03,828 government code section 36516 5264 02:47:03,828 --> 02:47:06,828 provides for general law cities 5265 02:47:06,831 --> 02:47:07,632 such as the city of walnut 5266 02:47:07,632 --> 02:47:10,501 creek to establish and adjust 5267 02:47:10,501 --> 02:47:11,536 compensation by ordinance. 5268 02:47:11,536 --> 02:47:13,705 There are two primary ways in 5269 02:47:13,705 --> 02:47:14,605 which council compensation can 5270 02:47:14,605 --> 02:47:17,605 be adjusted according to that 5271 02:47:17,776 --> 02:47:18,710 government code section either 5272 02:47:18,710 --> 02:47:21,710 based on the city's population 5273 02:47:22,513 --> 02:47:23,314 size according to a schedule or 5274 02:47:23,314 --> 02:47:25,917 by adjusting based on a modest 5275 02:47:25,917 --> 02:47:27,917 inflation calculator. 5276 02:47:30,880 --> 02:47:30,855 >> this table provides the 5277 02:47:30,855 --> 02:47:32,757 history of council compensation 5278 02:47:32,757 --> 02:47:34,893 over the past 50 years during 5279 02:47:34,893 --> 02:47:35,693 which time only five 5280 02:47:35,693 --> 02:47:38,930 adjustments have taken place 5281 02:47:38,163 --> 02:47:40,563 the current compensation of 5282 02:47:40,899 --> 02:47:43,299 $650 per month was adopted 5283 02:47:43,735 --> 02:47:44,569 almost 25 years ago in 002. 5284 02:47:44,569 --> 02:47:47,773 I also want to note that 5285 02:47:47,773 --> 02:47:48,507 council members are eligible 5286 02:47:48,507 --> 02:47:51,507 for participation in the city's 5287 02:47:51,577 --> 02:47:52,143 retirement and health plans and 5288 02:47:52,143 --> 02:47:54,543 MAY be reimbursed for 5289 02:47:54,880 --> 02:47:57,280 technology and travel expenses 5290 02:47:58,550 --> 02:47:59,150 in JANUARY of 2020 for 5291 02:47:59,150 --> 02:48:01,150 legislation surrounding 5292 02:48:02,200 --> 02:48:02,687 compensation council 5293 02:48:02,687 --> 02:48:05,870 compensation was adopted to 5294 02:48:06,291 --> 02:48:07,192 acknowledge that compensation 5295 02:48:07,192 --> 02:48:07,559 and had not kept pace with 5296 02:48:07,559 --> 02:48:09,559 inflation. 5297 02:48:10,729 --> 02:48:11,430 as a result the population base 5298 02:48:11,430 --> 02:48:13,732 salary rates for increased in 5299 02:48:13,732 --> 02:48:14,733 an additional method as added 5300 02:48:14,733 --> 02:48:17,733 to adjust compensation ased on 5301 02:48:18,537 --> 02:48:19,238 inflation based on the 5302 02:48:19,238 --> 02:48:21,638 population based salary rate. 5303 02:48:22,400 --> 02:48:24,676 The city of walnut creek at a 5304 02:48:24,676 --> 02:48:27,760 population of 70,127 would all 5305 02:48:27,846 --> 02:48:30,246 within the population tier 5306 02:48:30,682 --> 02:48:32,682 between 50 and 75,000 at $600 5307 02:48:34,352 --> 02:48:35,387 per month. 5308 02:48:35,387 --> 02:48:37,787 >> this chart provides the 5309 02:48:38,523 --> 02:48:39,158 compensation here to council 5310 02:48:39,158 --> 02:48:42,127 members in all general law 5311 02:48:42,127 --> 02:48:42,895 cities and contra costa county 5312 02:48:42,895 --> 02:48:45,895 except the three charter cities 5313 02:48:46,599 --> 02:48:47,366 of el cerrito, richmond and san 5314 02:48:47,366 --> 02:48:49,635 ramone who are not subject to 5315 02:48:49,635 --> 02:48:50,302 these laws. 5316 02:48:50,302 --> 02:48:50,936 The chart provides the 5317 02:48:50,936 --> 02:48:53,936 population of the city the 5318 02:48:54,507 --> 02:48:56,907 population based monthly salary 5319 02:48:57,843 --> 02:48:58,544 according to sb 329 and the 5320 02:48:58,544 --> 02:49:00,544 current compensation received 5321 02:49:01,646 --> 02:49:03,646 as of DECEMBER 2026. 5322 02:49:05,517 --> 02:49:06,185 As you can see the majority of 5323 02:49:06,185 --> 02:49:08,585 city council compensation at 5324 02:49:09,321 --> 02:49:11,691 the population based salary 5325 02:49:11,691 --> 02:49:12,291 rate established by sb 329 5326 02:49:12,291 --> 02:49:14,691 however, the cities of 5327 02:49:15,862 --> 02:49:16,529 lafayette orinda and moraga do 5328 02:49:16,529 --> 02:49:18,929 not provide compensation to 5329 02:49:19,465 --> 02:49:21,465 their council members. 5330 02:49:23,350 --> 02:49:26,505 >> I have to note that sb 329 5331 02:49:26,505 --> 02:49:27,340 updated the maximum population 5332 02:49:27,340 --> 02:49:30,340 base salary amounts to address 5333 02:49:30,409 --> 02:49:31,210 in part the current economic 5334 02:49:31,210 --> 02:49:33,610 environment the time commitment 5335 02:49:34,313 --> 02:49:35,114 required by elected officials 5336 02:49:35,114 --> 02:49:37,514 and potential barriers to 5337 02:49:38,284 --> 02:49:40,684 public service council members 5338 02:49:42,521 --> 02:49:43,188 area council members contribute 5339 02:49:43,188 --> 02:49:46,125 countless hours of time and 5340 02:49:46,125 --> 02:49:46,793 devote a significant amount of 5341 02:49:46,793 --> 02:49:49,793 effort and energy serving as 5342 02:49:50,290 --> 02:49:50,496 their role and council member 5343 02:49:50,496 --> 02:49:52,496 to a community. 5344 02:49:53,332 --> 02:49:53,933 >> no increase is taking place 5345 02:49:53,933 --> 02:49:56,333 in nearly 25 years and 5346 02:49:57,337 --> 02:50:00,106 compensation has not kept up 5347 02:50:00,106 --> 02:50:03,543 with the evolution of the role 5348 02:50:03,543 --> 02:50:04,176 per government code section 5349 02:50:04,176 --> 02:50:06,176 36516 any change in 5350 02:50:06,746 --> 02:50:07,814 compensation would be processed 5351 02:50:07,814 --> 02:50:10,784 active and does not apply to a 5352 02:50:10,784 --> 02:50:11,117 council members current term of 5353 02:50:11,117 --> 02:50:11,884 office. 5354 02:50:11,884 --> 02:50:14,884 However, when one or more 5355 02:50:15,188 --> 02:50:15,821 council members begins a new 5356 02:50:15,821 --> 02:50:18,791 term of office and becomes 5357 02:50:18,791 --> 02:50:19,459 eligible for a salary, all 5358 02:50:19,459 --> 02:50:20,930 members of the council will 5359 02:50:20,930 --> 02:50:22,493 receive the same adjusted 5360 02:50:23,196 --> 02:50:23,930 salary general law cities who 5361 02:50:23,930 --> 02:50:26,833 choose not to adopt an 5362 02:50:26,833 --> 02:50:27,500 ordinance relative to council 5363 02:50:27,500 --> 02:50:29,900 compensation MAY submit the 5364 02:50:30,603 --> 02:50:33,603 question to electors at a 5365 02:50:33,974 --> 02:50:35,974 municipal election. 5366 02:50:37,877 --> 02:50:38,644 In summary, the compensation 5367 02:50:38,644 --> 02:50:41,440 provided to california cities 5368 02:50:44,350 --> 02:50:44,951 under sb 329 at a 50 to 75,000 5369 02:50:44,951 --> 02:50:46,951 population level is 1600 5370 02:50:48,540 --> 02:50:48,922 dollars per month. 5371 02:50:48,922 --> 02:50:51,922 An ordinance has been drafted 5372 02:50:52,259 --> 02:50:54,659 for introduction increases the 5373 02:50:55,940 --> 02:50:57,940 council compensation from $650 5374 02:50:58,965 --> 02:51:01,965 to $1600 per month resulting in 5375 02:51:02,568 --> 02:51:03,436 an increase of $950 per month. 5376 02:51:03,436 --> 02:51:06,372 If this resolution is adopted, 5377 02:51:06,372 --> 02:51:07,173 the salary rate for all council 5378 02:51:07,173 --> 02:51:07,807 members would become effective 5379 02:51:07,807 --> 02:51:10,807 DECEMBER 1st with the new 5380 02:51:10,877 --> 02:51:13,877 council's term of office in 5381 02:51:13,980 --> 02:51:15,980 DECEMBER of 2026. 5382 02:51:18,510 --> 02:51:18,385 >> the council options are as 5383 02:51:18,385 --> 02:51:19,850 follows. 5384 02:51:19,850 --> 02:51:21,485 Introduce the draft ordinance 5385 02:51:22,556 --> 02:51:24,956 tonight increase the salary 5386 02:51:25,592 --> 02:51:27,861 from 650 to $600 per month 5387 02:51:27,861 --> 02:51:28,762 effective DECEMBER 1st, 2020 5388 02:51:28,762 --> 02:51:31,762 six modify the draft ordinance 5389 02:51:32,299 --> 02:51:32,999 and adjust the salary to a 5390 02:51:32,999 --> 02:51:35,399 different amount under $600 a 5391 02:51:36,269 --> 02:51:36,737 month for introduction at a 5392 02:51:36,737 --> 02:51:37,437 future meeting. 5393 02:51:37,437 --> 02:51:40,437 Modify the draft ordinance to 5394 02:51:40,874 --> 02:51:41,541 effective date further in the 5395 02:51:41,541 --> 02:51:43,610 future for introduction at a 5396 02:51:43,610 --> 02:51:44,378 future meeting not introduce 5397 02:51:44,378 --> 02:51:47,378 the draft ordinance and retain 5398 02:51:47,415 --> 02:51:47,715 the existing rate of $650 per 5399 02:51:47,715 --> 02:51:49,715 month. 5400 02:51:51,218 --> 02:51:51,919 Submit to the electors at a 5401 02:51:51,919 --> 02:51:54,319 municipal election a question 5402 02:51:54,921 --> 02:51:55,756 of whether council should 5403 02:51:55,756 --> 02:51:58,756 receive a salary for services 5404 02:51:58,826 --> 02:51:59,560 and that amount or provide 5405 02:51:59,560 --> 02:52:01,560 alternate alternative direction 5406 02:52:03,196 --> 02:52:06,196 staff so finally the staff 5407 02:52:07,535 --> 02:52:08,235 recommendation is to move to 5408 02:52:08,235 --> 02:52:11,171 introduce and waive a reading 5409 02:52:11,171 --> 02:52:11,838 of an ordinance amending the 5410 02:52:11,838 --> 02:52:14,675 compensation for the city of 5411 02:52:14,675 --> 02:52:17,750 walnut creek council members 5412 02:52:17,645 --> 02:52:18,278 from $650 per month to $600 per 5413 02:52:18,278 --> 02:52:20,715 month to be effective on 5414 02:52:20,715 --> 02:52:22,715 DECEMBER 1st, 2026. 5415 02:52:24,918 --> 02:52:25,786 I don't have a question side of 5416 02:52:25,786 --> 02:52:28,956 but I'm happy to answer any 5417 02:52:28,956 --> 02:52:29,957 questions you MAY fresh I also 5418 02:52:29,957 --> 02:52:32,726 question I had a question of 5419 02:52:32,726 --> 02:52:36,326 what has the cost of living 5420 02:52:36,798 --> 02:52:37,498 escalated from or what is it 5421 02:52:37,498 --> 02:52:40,334 been from the last time there 5422 02:52:40,334 --> 02:52:43,334 was an increase in 2002 which 5423 02:52:43,604 --> 02:52:43,871 presented it doesn't do till 5424 02:52:43,871 --> 02:52:44,705 now. 5425 02:52:44,705 --> 02:52:45,272 >> what does that cost of 5426 02:52:45,272 --> 02:52:47,272 living increase mean? 5427 02:52:48,420 --> 02:52:51,420 Well the cost of living 5428 02:52:52,130 --> 02:52:52,814 increase changes annually so 5429 02:52:52,814 --> 02:52:55,814 the ballpark or ballpark I 5430 02:52:55,917 --> 02:52:59,517 would say what I'll say what 5431 02:52:59,887 --> 02:53:00,388 this legislation allows for s 5432 02:53:00,388 --> 02:53:02,388 5% per year. 5433 02:53:03,900 --> 02:53:03,824 So let's just say for the last 5434 02:53:03,824 --> 02:53:05,824 22 years that'd be 120%. 5435 02:53:09,964 --> 02:53:10,264 So if it was 5% per year yeah 5436 02:53:10,264 --> 02:53:11,320 yeah. 5437 02:53:11,320 --> 02:53:13,768 >> which would equate to it 5438 02:53:13,768 --> 02:53:17,438 would be it would take it from 5439 02:53:17,438 --> 02:53:20,438 to $780 plus the $650 so it 5440 02:53:23,778 --> 02:53:26,178 would be $1,430 versus he 6050 5441 02:53:27,349 --> 02:53:28,160 that so it's less than that if 5442 02:53:28,160 --> 02:53:30,416 it's not compounded correct. 5443 02:53:30,852 --> 02:53:31,885 That's how the legislation when 5444 02:53:31,885 --> 02:53:34,889 calculate but if you look at it 5445 02:53:34,889 --> 02:53:35,623 from an annual basis which is 5446 02:53:35,623 --> 02:53:38,623 how cpi is actually calculated 5447 02:53:38,793 --> 02:53:39,527 because it compounds year to 5448 02:53:39,527 --> 02:53:41,729 year I believe it puts it close 5449 02:53:41,729 --> 02:53:42,763 to 20 100 hours, correct. 5450 02:53:42,763 --> 02:53:45,867 So had it so had it increased 5451 02:53:45,867 --> 02:53:46,701 every year just like salary 5452 02:53:46,701 --> 02:53:49,701 increases and contracts and all 5453 02:53:50,171 --> 02:53:53,771 that it would be about $2,100 a 5454 02:53:53,842 --> 02:53:54,742 month right now and everybody's 5455 02:53:54,742 --> 02:53:57,845 been at the same 650 a month 5456 02:53:57,845 --> 02:53:58,246 for the last 24 years. 5457 02:53:58,246 --> 02:53:58,980 >> correct. 5458 02:53:58,980 --> 02:54:01,182 And that's what we do with 5459 02:54:01,182 --> 02:54:02,500 every ther salary within the 5460 02:54:02,500 --> 02:54:02,650 city is look at it from a 5461 02:54:02,650 --> 02:54:04,418 compounded perspective. 5462 02:54:04,418 --> 02:54:05,200 Okay. 5463 02:54:05,200 --> 02:54:07,200 Thank you. 5464 02:54:08,890 --> 02:54:09,258 The questions and the 5465 02:54:09,258 --> 02:54:09,558 questions. 5466 02:54:09,558 --> 02:54:11,558 Okay. 5467 02:54:12,760 --> 02:54:15,763 Public comment I if I guess 5468 02:54:15,763 --> 02:54:16,431 there's nobody here in the 5469 02:54:16,431 --> 02:54:16,764 chamber, is anybody online? 5470 02:54:16,764 --> 02:54:18,764 >> okay. 5471 02:54:20,100 --> 02:54:20,869 All right. 5472 02:54:20,869 --> 02:54:23,204 And then then public comment 5473 02:54:23,204 --> 02:54:24,500 and if we have any of if you 5474 02:54:24,500 --> 02:54:27,542 have any comments here and and 5475 02:54:27,542 --> 02:54:28,243 actually I'll make I'll make 5476 02:54:28,243 --> 02:54:28,944 the first comments anybody can 5477 02:54:28,944 --> 02:54:31,246 add on if you would like 5478 02:54:31,246 --> 02:54:31,947 obviously we have a couple of 5479 02:54:31,947 --> 02:54:34,947 council members here that will 5480 02:54:35,500 --> 02:54:38,650 not be here taking advantage of 5481 02:54:38,754 --> 02:54:40,722 this afterwards so I think 5482 02:54:40,722 --> 02:54:41,824 actually and what I found in 5483 02:54:41,824 --> 02:54:44,393 the last ten years of me being 5484 02:54:44,393 --> 02:54:45,930 on city council people are 5485 02:54:45,930 --> 02:54:48,930 shocked at how little we 5486 02:54:48,130 --> 02:54:48,830 actually make on council that 5487 02:54:48,830 --> 02:54:51,830 there is just this mall 5488 02:54:52,501 --> 02:54:52,968 stipend for council and that is 5489 02:54:52,968 --> 02:54:53,735 really a salary. 5490 02:54:53,735 --> 02:54:56,204 I don't think it's meant to be 5491 02:54:56,204 --> 02:54:56,871 a salary but I did do a 5492 02:54:56,871 --> 02:54:57,572 calculation of general costs 5493 02:54:57,572 --> 02:55:00,420 and people have asked me what 5494 02:55:00,420 --> 02:55:00,942 is it this member make or what 5495 02:55:00,942 --> 02:55:03,745 kind of time do you put into it 5496 02:55:03,745 --> 02:55:04,379 and of course is varies among 5497 02:55:04,379 --> 02:55:05,140 different council members. 5498 02:55:05,140 --> 02:55:07,414 We've worked with council 5499 02:55:07,616 --> 02:55:08,317 members that have put the 5500 02:55:08,317 --> 02:55:11,286 minimum effort in and we work 5501 02:55:11,286 --> 02:55:14,590 with council members to ut the 5502 02:55:14,590 --> 02:55:15,900 maximum amount of effort in 5503 02:55:15,900 --> 02:55:16,240 accounts for. 5504 02:55:16,240 --> 02:55:18,660 S I'll just based upon myself 5505 02:55:18,660 --> 02:55:19,610 and then people can determine 5506 02:55:19,610 --> 02:55:19,694 about that. 5507 02:55:19,694 --> 02:55:22,694 But so for council meeting 5508 02:55:22,731 --> 02:55:23,398 weeks like this week or a 5509 02:55:23,398 --> 02:55:26,168 couple of weeks that we have 5510 02:55:26,168 --> 02:55:26,902 during the month, I find that 5511 02:55:26,902 --> 02:55:29,805 with the meetings that I have 5512 02:55:29,805 --> 02:55:32,205 the preparation, the committee 5513 02:55:33,642 --> 02:55:34,309 assignments and multiple of the 5514 02:55:34,309 --> 02:55:36,545 things that are going on it 5515 02:55:36,545 --> 02:55:37,213 works out to about 25 or 30 5516 02:55:37,213 --> 02:55:39,715 hours a week for me a non 5517 02:55:39,715 --> 02:55:40,749 council meeting weeks tend to 5518 02:55:40,749 --> 02:55:43,180 be more like 15 to 20 hours a 5519 02:55:43,180 --> 02:55:43,652 week and weeks vary but that's 5520 02:55:43,652 --> 02:55:44,453 what it is about. 5521 02:55:44,453 --> 02:55:47,550 So calculating that over a 5522 02:55:47,550 --> 02:55:50,550 month is about 80 to 100 hours 5523 02:55:52,361 --> 02:55:55,597 and are given divide 650 that a 5524 02:55:55,597 --> 02:55:56,599 $650 comes out to about $6.50 5525 02:55:56,599 --> 02:55:59,435 to $8 an hour for the time that 5526 02:55:59,435 --> 02:56:00,469 I am spending on council again 5527 02:56:00,469 --> 02:56:02,571 that MAY vary now we can 5528 02:56:02,571 --> 02:56:03,239 probably add another 5 to 10 5529 02:56:03,239 --> 02:56:03,906 hours a week for mayors who 5530 02:56:03,906 --> 02:56:05,906 have additional obligations 5531 02:56:06,875 --> 02:56:09,578 every week we are in the first 5532 02:56:09,578 --> 02:56:10,446 time I was mayor I was shocked 5533 02:56:10,446 --> 02:56:11,113 at how many things I was 5534 02:56:11,113 --> 02:56:13,716 invited to that I never even 5535 02:56:13,716 --> 02:56:14,550 heard about because it's the 5536 02:56:14,550 --> 02:56:15,351 mayors were invited to things 5537 02:56:15,351 --> 02:56:17,954 and that was during covid this 5538 02:56:17,954 --> 02:56:20,823 year been far more so that just 5539 02:56:20,823 --> 02:56:22,580 adds to it. 5540 02:56:22,580 --> 02:56:25,940 >> so that's just on what we 5541 02:56:25,940 --> 02:56:25,761 are doing here in our normal 5542 02:56:25,761 --> 02:56:28,161 responsibilities but we also 5543 02:56:29,264 --> 02:56:29,966 get invited to the 10 to 12 5544 02:56:29,966 --> 02:56:32,966 gala and major fundraisers for 5545 02:56:33,680 --> 02:56:33,769 nonprofit causes every single 5546 02:56:33,769 --> 02:56:36,906 year each one of the costs of 5547 02:56:36,906 --> 02:56:39,306 the ticket between 200 to $500 5548 02:56:41,310 --> 02:56:42,312 per ticket we pay for those out 5549 02:56:42,312 --> 02:56:43,379 of our own pocket if we get two 5550 02:56:43,379 --> 02:56:44,214 tickets to include the spouse 5551 02:56:44,214 --> 02:56:47,214 that's 4 to $5000 for just the 5552 02:56:47,817 --> 02:56:48,417 tickets and there are as we 5553 02:56:48,417 --> 02:56:50,417 know usually additional 5554 02:56:51,120 --> 02:56:53,120 fundraising requests during 5555 02:56:53,857 --> 02:56:54,423 those events which can be 250 5556 02:56:54,423 --> 02:56:56,423 to $500 on average. 5557 02:56:58,160 --> 02:56:58,827 I mean obviously you can even 5558 02:56:58,827 --> 02:57:00,263 budget more as well but that 5559 02:57:00,263 --> 02:57:01,630 means that the gallo's alone 5560 02:57:01,630 --> 02:57:03,463 costs about $10,000 per year 5561 02:57:04,401 --> 02:57:05,401 for council members who often 5562 02:57:05,401 --> 02:57:06,350 do feel an obligation to go to 5563 02:57:06,350 --> 02:57:08,435 these not these worthwhile 5564 02:57:08,905 --> 02:57:09,739 nonprofit causes. 5565 02:57:09,739 --> 02:57:10,473 But the council are always 5566 02:57:10,473 --> 02:57:12,942 invited and we always make sure 5567 02:57:12,942 --> 02:57:16,445 that we that we have presence 5568 02:57:16,445 --> 02:57:19,815 at many of hem and o at $650 5569 02:57:19,815 --> 02:57:20,383 a month or $7,800 a year that 5570 02:57:20,383 --> 02:57:22,783 doesn't even cover the 5571 02:57:23,219 --> 02:57:24,200 fundraisers and then add in the 5572 02:57:24,200 --> 02:57:27,200 80 plus hours of the month. 5573 02:57:27,423 --> 02:57:28,258 So when I look at all of that 5574 02:57:28,258 --> 02:57:30,160 and I look at who we want to be 5575 02:57:30,160 --> 02:57:30,961 able to serve my council, we 5576 02:57:30,961 --> 02:57:33,961 want a diversity of of 5577 02:57:34,230 --> 02:57:36,230 everybody young, old, 5578 02:57:38,201 --> 02:57:38,901 different, different people in 5579 02:57:38,901 --> 02:57:41,301 different demographic or socio 5580 02:57:42,705 --> 02:57:43,573 economic arenas. 5581 02:57:43,573 --> 02:57:44,173 People want to serve on city 5582 02:57:44,173 --> 02:57:46,176 council for a variety of 5583 02:57:46,176 --> 02:57:46,543 reasons but none of them are 5584 02:57:46,543 --> 02:57:47,310 financial. 5585 02:57:47,310 --> 02:57:47,744 I can promise you none of them 5586 02:57:47,744 --> 02:57:49,744 are financial. 5587 02:57:50,647 --> 02:57:51,247 Nobody's getting rich being on 5588 02:57:51,247 --> 02:57:53,647 city council but council 5589 02:57:53,950 --> 02:57:54,952 members shouldn't ave to ose 5590 02:57:54,952 --> 02:57:57,253 money or be in the red every 5591 02:57:57,253 --> 02:57:57,654 single month for serving either 5592 02:57:57,654 --> 02:57:58,421 . 5593 02:57:58,421 --> 02:58:01,691 It'll never be a full paying 5594 02:58:01,691 --> 02:58:02,525 job being on the council there 5595 02:58:02,525 --> 02:58:05,328 can be somewhat of an increase 5596 02:58:05,328 --> 02:58:06,290 in state and I feel which may 5597 02:58:06,290 --> 02:58:06,730 allow for younger or more 5598 02:58:06,730 --> 02:58:09,500 diversity on the council where 5599 02:58:09,500 --> 02:58:10,234 this can be a little bit more 5600 02:58:10,234 --> 02:58:12,903 help f a supplemental income 5601 02:58:12,903 --> 02:58:13,670 to allow for them to 5602 02:58:13,670 --> 02:58:16,700 participate in public service. 5603 02:58:17,107 --> 02:58:20,877 S for ll that those reasons I 5604 02:58:20,877 --> 02:58:25,770 do feel that it makes sense for 5605 02:58:25,149 --> 02:58:28,749 the next council and and moving 5606 02:58:28,819 --> 02:58:29,452 forward to increase the stipend 5607 02:58:29,452 --> 02:58:31,452 for council members. 5608 02:58:33,323 --> 02:58:34,324 >> is that your motion and I 5609 02:58:34,324 --> 02:58:37,228 will make it for me on this 5610 02:58:37,228 --> 02:58:37,928 borough first of all is anybody 5611 02:58:37,928 --> 02:58:39,863 else have any further comments 5612 02:58:39,863 --> 02:58:40,263 they would like to make on that 5613 02:58:40,263 --> 02:58:42,263 ? 5614 02:58:43,667 --> 02:58:44,268 >> okay, let me go you know 5615 02:58:44,268 --> 02:58:45,200 I've been on planning 5616 02:58:45,200 --> 02:58:48,104 commission for ten years and my 5617 02:58:48,104 --> 02:58:51,474 kids were right at the cusp of 5618 02:58:51,474 --> 02:58:52,275 needing somebody there at night 5619 02:58:52,275 --> 02:58:54,678 and I decided I would just go 5620 02:58:54,678 --> 02:58:55,579 to planning commission and I 5621 02:58:55,579 --> 02:58:56,313 just had the phone right there 5622 02:58:56,313 --> 02:59:00,513 and if it started going off I 5623 02:59:02,352 --> 02:59:03,186 would have to be it not having 5624 02:59:03,186 --> 02:59:03,987 enough money to cover daycare 5625 02:59:03,987 --> 02:59:06,890 is a big barrier for parents 5626 02:59:06,890 --> 02:59:09,290 with school age kids. 5627 02:59:10,861 --> 02:59:14,565 It keeps us older than you know 5628 02:59:14,565 --> 02:59:15,399 and I want to want to make 5629 02:59:15,399 --> 02:59:18,302 sure that we find a way to 5630 02:59:18,302 --> 02:59:18,936 encourage younger people to 5631 02:59:18,936 --> 02:59:21,336 begin participating and be 5632 02:59:22,272 --> 02:59:22,606 interested in running the 5633 02:59:22,606 --> 02:59:23,340 council. 5634 02:59:23,340 --> 02:59:23,641 And so I I'm supportive of 5635 02:59:23,641 --> 02:59:25,641 this. 5636 02:59:26,510 --> 02:59:27,244 I, I personally have a view of 5637 02:59:27,244 --> 02:59:30,681 my husband that I keep track of 5638 02:59:30,681 --> 02:59:31,382 what I spend and I always tell 5639 02:59:31,382 --> 02:59:34,982 him everything but I will not 5640 02:59:35,520 --> 02:59:37,621 go into debt to be okay. 5641 02:59:37,621 --> 02:59:41,910 >> don't tell him I probably do 5642 02:59:41,910 --> 02:59:41,926 so much now he's in bed in the 5643 02:59:41,926 --> 02:59:44,728 in the bed ever again. 5644 02:59:44,728 --> 02:59:45,596 >> yeah I agree with everything 5645 02:59:45,596 --> 02:59:46,230 that has been said in terms of 5646 02:59:46,230 --> 02:59:48,630 the hours commitments the 5647 02:59:48,966 --> 02:59:49,801 nonprofits I think as it's been 5648 02:59:49,801 --> 02:59:52,201 25 years since it's been 5649 02:59:53,270 --> 02:59:53,838 updated and I think the chart 5650 02:59:53,838 --> 02:59:55,838 basically showed among 5651 02:59:57,410 --> 03:00:00,410 comparable cities we are way 5652 03:00:00,744 --> 03:00:01,979 down we're not keeping pace 5653 03:00:01,979 --> 03:00:05,449 with inflation and and so when 5654 03:00:05,449 --> 03:00:06,500 the time as appropriate I'll 5655 03:00:06,500 --> 03:00:09,500 either make a motion or 5656 03:00:09,530 --> 03:00:09,954 seconded and actually tricia 5657 03:00:09,954 --> 03:00:12,957 you go back to that comparative 5658 03:00:12,957 --> 03:00:13,624 slide if I can so while she's 5659 03:00:13,624 --> 03:00:16,560 doing that I could make a 5660 03:00:16,560 --> 03:00:19,560 couple of comments starting one 5661 03:00:20,164 --> 03:00:22,900 to do the math as to what their 5662 03:00:22,900 --> 03:00:23,568 differential is over after 20 5663 03:00:23,568 --> 03:00:26,337 years on the kelso and there 5664 03:00:26,337 --> 03:00:27,400 was an actual period of about 5665 03:00:27,400 --> 03:00:27,738 eight years in which I was 5666 03:00:27,738 --> 03:00:30,738 making less than 650 during the 5667 03:00:31,410 --> 03:00:31,342 recession and we didn't it 5668 03:00:31,342 --> 03:00:33,342 back. 5669 03:00:33,878 --> 03:00:34,912 I think the other reason why 5670 03:00:34,912 --> 03:00:37,782 this is important is it's not 5671 03:00:37,782 --> 03:00:38,716 just because of families and 5672 03:00:38,716 --> 03:00:41,686 you know, children at night 5673 03:00:41,686 --> 03:00:42,487 there are jobs when if you 5674 03:00:42,487 --> 03:00:43,154 leave the job, if you're a 5675 03:00:43,154 --> 03:00:45,523 teacher you have to pay for 5676 03:00:45,523 --> 03:00:46,190 your substitute and we have 5677 03:00:46,190 --> 03:00:48,590 daytime requirements that we 5678 03:00:49,728 --> 03:00:50,762 have to we have a burden that 5679 03:00:50,762 --> 03:00:53,864 we if we work we have to take 5680 03:00:53,864 --> 03:00:56,768 time off and that is also not 5681 03:00:56,768 --> 03:00:57,635 accounted for here. 5682 03:00:57,635 --> 03:01:00,271 And when I was considering 5683 03:01:00,271 --> 03:01:01,273 running for city council in 5684 03:01:01,273 --> 03:01:03,673 2006 I asked for council 5685 03:01:04,442 --> 03:01:06,842 members what's the time 5686 03:01:08,313 --> 03:01:09,181 commitment and the answer and 5687 03:01:09,181 --> 03:01:09,848 it was separate but each of 5688 03:01:09,848 --> 03:01:12,817 them said 20 hours a week. 5689 03:01:12,817 --> 03:01:13,251 And lastly your mayor is 40 5690 03:01:13,251 --> 03:01:15,251 hours a week. 5691 03:01:16,687 --> 03:01:17,288 You're underestimating what it 5692 03:01:17,288 --> 03:01:17,989 takes to be mayor. 5693 03:01:17,989 --> 03:01:20,291 Yeah, probably right but yeah 5694 03:01:20,291 --> 03:01:23,427 and so you know that all adds 5695 03:01:23,427 --> 03:01:26,965 up and it is interesting to 5696 03:01:26,965 --> 03:01:27,833 open the publicly available pay 5697 03:01:27,833 --> 03:01:28,567 scale for the entire city and 5698 03:01:28,567 --> 03:01:32,167 notice that we're on the last 5699 03:01:34,339 --> 03:01:37,939 page I guess the lowest paid 5700 03:01:38,209 --> 03:01:39,311 work we are right? 5701 03:01:39,311 --> 03:01:41,513 And I think again if you look 5702 03:01:41,513 --> 03:01:45,830 at this compared to the other 5703 03:01:45,830 --> 03:01:45,818 cities, the ones that we are in 5704 03:01:45,818 --> 03:01:46,518 the same population I think 5705 03:01:46,518 --> 03:01:49,518 people feel that walnut creek 5706 03:01:49,721 --> 03:01:50,155 in general they live in a 5707 03:01:50,155 --> 03:01:52,155 terrific city. 5708 03:01:54,359 --> 03:01:55,600 We do the best that we can, we 5709 03:01:55,600 --> 03:01:55,794 believe of the city first and 5710 03:01:55,794 --> 03:01:57,596 four of us there and I know 5711 03:01:57,596 --> 03:01:58,296 that the headline states where 5712 03:01:58,296 --> 03:02:01,296 the percentage increases but I 5713 03:02:01,299 --> 03:02:02,000 think that you ave to look at 5714 03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:04,336 the percentages do not tell a 5715 03:02:04,336 --> 03:02:04,969 true story and especially I 5716 03:02:04,969 --> 03:02:05,504 think in this instance it 5717 03:02:05,504 --> 03:02:07,504 wouldn't do either. 5718 03:02:08,406 --> 03:02:09,207 It's it's an increase that 5719 03:02:09,207 --> 03:02:11,709 would take us still below where 5720 03:02:11,709 --> 03:02:14,980 it would be if it was if it had 5721 03:02:14,980 --> 03:02:15,813 been indexed properly from the 5722 03:02:15,813 --> 03:02:18,813 last time it was increased. 5723 03:02:22,654 --> 03:02:23,455 So okay post my opportunity to 5724 03:02:23,455 --> 03:02:24,156 say I agree with everything 5725 03:02:24,156 --> 03:02:26,592 that's been said as the newest 5726 03:02:26,592 --> 03:02:27,626 member of the council that was 5727 03:02:27,626 --> 03:02:30,562 actually a bit of a surprise to 5728 03:02:30,562 --> 03:02:33,798 me was all the money that I was 5729 03:02:33,798 --> 03:02:34,800 spending going to events. 5730 03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:37,602 You left out meeting people for 5731 03:02:37,602 --> 03:02:37,902 lunch, you know the coffee? 5732 03:02:37,902 --> 03:02:38,837 Yeah. 5733 03:02:38,837 --> 03:02:42,107 Tere are a lot of commitments 5734 03:02:42,107 --> 03:02:45,107 outside of what is probably 5735 03:02:45,311 --> 03:02:48,311 perceived we're doing that our 5736 03:02:49,314 --> 03:02:50,115 that that costs oney and so I 5737 03:02:50,115 --> 03:02:53,115 don't think like you said 5738 03:02:53,118 --> 03:02:53,953 anybody with this increase is 5739 03:02:53,953 --> 03:02:54,320 going to go into this job for 5740 03:02:54,320 --> 03:02:56,320 the money. 5741 03:02:56,621 --> 03:03:00,920 But I do think that the meaning 5742 03:03:00,920 --> 03:03:00,960 behind the legislation is good 5743 03:03:00,960 --> 03:03:04,560 not not just to lower the 5744 03:03:04,697 --> 03:03:07,767 barrier to access but to you 5745 03:03:07,767 --> 03:03:08,734 know, try to at least somewhat 5746 03:03:08,734 --> 03:03:09,401 keep up with the cost of living 5747 03:03:09,401 --> 03:03:12,738 for as small as it is. 5748 03:03:12,738 --> 03:03:16,174 So I, I also agree with all 5749 03:03:16,174 --> 03:03:16,975 that been said on to be on the 5750 03:03:16,975 --> 03:03:19,912 record for that and if you 5751 03:03:19,912 --> 03:03:23,512 could put up that slide again 5752 03:03:26,819 --> 03:03:27,719 trish people not the one with 5753 03:03:27,719 --> 03:03:29,922 the options I feel like this is 5754 03:03:29,922 --> 03:03:30,856 the one you are looking for. 5755 03:03:30,856 --> 03:03:33,856 >> yeah I will move to 5756 03:03:33,893 --> 03:03:34,526 introduce and waive the reading 5757 03:03:34,526 --> 03:03:35,261 of the ordinance amending 5758 03:03:35,261 --> 03:03:37,697 compensation for city of walnut 5759 03:03:37,697 --> 03:03:40,970 creek council members from 650 5760 03:03:40,666 --> 03:03:44,266 per month to 600 per month to 5761 03:03:45,238 --> 03:03:46,138 be effective on DECEMBER first 5762 03:03:46,138 --> 03:03:46,872 and I will second that as the 5763 03:03:46,872 --> 03:03:50,472 other member who voted to have 5764 03:03:52,845 --> 03:03:53,113 no benefit of ncluding zero 5765 03:03:53,113 --> 03:03:53,480 yes. 5766 03:03:53,480 --> 03:03:55,480 >> yes. 5767 03:03:57,349 --> 03:03:59,218 Including there they were out 5768 03:03:59,218 --> 03:04:00,186 in council just because the 5769 03:04:00,186 --> 03:04:03,220 increase does not take effect 5770 03:04:03,220 --> 03:04:03,356 until the council members are 5771 03:04:03,356 --> 03:04:04,890 seated. 5772 03:04:04,890 --> 03:04:07,890 We've made the ordinance that 5773 03:04:07,327 --> 03:04:08,127 the increase effective DECEMBER 5774 03:04:08,127 --> 03:04:11,127 2nd, not DECEMBER 1st because 5775 03:04:11,631 --> 03:04:14,631 you're seated on the first 5776 03:04:16,303 --> 03:04:19,371 susie could call the roll these 5777 03:04:19,371 --> 03:04:20,573 members our friends all right I 5778 03:04:20,573 --> 03:04:22,775 darling I never did any I know 5779 03:04:22,775 --> 03:04:26,145 I and think that we've done 5780 03:04:26,145 --> 03:04:29,145 something for the future of 5781 03:04:31,500 --> 03:04:32,840 walnut creek and to help people 5782 03:04:32,840 --> 03:04:32,885 to run were they might not have 5783 03:04:32,885 --> 03:04:34,286 been able to before by a group 5784 03:04:34,286 --> 03:04:34,955 and totally agree my 5785 03:04:34,955 --> 03:04:36,823 recommendation would be you 5786 03:04:36,823 --> 03:04:37,824 know that we stay on top of it 5787 03:04:37,824 --> 03:04:40,426 maybe every four years in terms 5788 03:04:40,426 --> 03:04:40,994 of the inflation or you do 5789 03:04:40,994 --> 03:04:41,361 going forward. 5790 03:04:41,361 --> 03:04:43,329 Thank you. 5791 03:04:43,329 --> 03:04:44,000 And with that I believe we