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» Mhm.

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» Thank you.

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It wouldn't have mattered if I hadn't

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been here. I'd still forget that.

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» Good evening.

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I'd like to welcome everyone to the

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August 6th, 2026 meeting of the Walton

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County Planning Commission.

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Uh thank you all for being here.

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I'm happy to be back. How many of y'all

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were watching TV in the '80s?

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Some of y'all with the same hair color

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as me didn't raise your

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Y'all didn't want to raise your hand,

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you know.

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How many of you remember Welcome Back,

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Kotter?

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Okay, here I am.

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I'm back after 2 months. Welcome Back,

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Kotter. I am glad to be here. I'm

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appreciative of Tim Camp, who is not

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here at the moment, uh but uh stepped in

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as chairman in my absence for 2 months.

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I greatly appreciate that, but I'm so

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pleased to be back and thank everyone uh

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else that has been here and been a part

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of uh decision making

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of the cases for the last couple of

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months.

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Uh this evening

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uh I want to let everybody know if if

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there is a time that you would like to

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gain knowledge of anything that's on our

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agenda and you can at can't attend, you

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can always join us on Walton County

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Facebook Live and view those meetings. I

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know Tracy

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in my absence, I tried one night and

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there was been a little bit of an issue

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with Facebook. Well, we got that

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corrected. So, we're up and everything's

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going well there.

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Our the meeting tonight, the cases that

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we hear tonight will be heard by the

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Board of Commissioners on September the

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1st. The Planning Commission we will

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meet again on September the 3rd.

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I'm going to go over a little bit of

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housekeeping real quick with you and

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this is part of

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what we try to do and keep in our

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meeting moving forward as best we can.

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So, I'm going to call and ask for the

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applicants for the cases to come up and

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give us the information as to what their

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requests are.

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and then after I have done that, I will

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ask for any opposition. I set this aside

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for 10 minutes for each side. That's 10

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minutes for each side, not 10 minutes

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for each individual.

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So, obviously the applicant is usually

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one. The opposition could be multiple.

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If you guys could work with us either by

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having one person who speaks on behalf

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of a group or if you would be very

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mindful that there's others who want to

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speak and keep your uh comments as

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condensed as possible and then lastly

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if someone mentions something,

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uh it's not really necessary for someone

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else to come up and tell us the same

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thing over. What I would like to do is

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if someone comes up after someone has

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spoken that they would be able to convey

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something that we have not heard or

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concerned that we have not heard. So, if

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y'all could help us out with that, we

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would greatly appreciate it.

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And with that, I am going to ask Josh

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Ferguson if he'll open us in prayer.

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going to turn around and face the flag

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here and and have the pledge. If y'all

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would join us with that, we would

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>> Let's pray.

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» Let's pray.

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Dear heavenly Father, Lord, we just come

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to you tonight thanking you for the um

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ability to be in good health enough to

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to come to this meeting. Uh Lord, we

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thank you for the uh privilege to be

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able to do do so.

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Father God, I just pray that tonight uh

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you will let cooler heads prevail and

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allow us um

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to make well-thought and meaningful

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decisions on behalf of the county.

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Uh Father God, I just ask all these

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things in Jesus' name I pray. Amen.

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All right, thank you guys. We really

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appreciate you doing that. At this time,

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I would like to show that all members

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are present with the exception of Tim

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Killop and Chris Alexander.

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So, those two are absent tonight.

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Before I open up the open uh the opening

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format uh public format of our meeting,

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I would like to ask if any of the

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representatives have any cases that they

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would like to table before I open public

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comment.

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None? Very good. At this time, if each

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one of you has had an opportunity to

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review our minutes from our last

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meeting, if you would please uh if

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there's no additions or alterations that

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need to be made, I will take a motion

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for approval or if there is something

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that needs to be modified, if you would

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please let us know.

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>> Motion to approve.

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» Motion to approve.

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>> I have a motion, do I have a second?

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» I have a motion, do I have a second?

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>> All in favor, raise your right hand and

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» All in favor, raise your right hand and

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say, "Aye."

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>> Thank you so very much.

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So, we do have um on our agenda for the

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evening, as I now will open the public

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portion of our meeting. Uh one case, uh

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old business, and we will be going to

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that first.

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So, this will be Z260159

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to rezone a portion of a parcel

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uh 4 acres from R1 to A1 to have

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personal outside animals. Applicant

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owner Fig Leaf Risk Advisors LLC,

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property located at 3084 Brooks Trail.

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>> Okay, if you could step up to the podium

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» Okay, if you could step up to the podium

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and please tell us what your plans are

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or what you're trying to accomplish here

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with your zoning request.

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» Um good evening, Mr. Chairman and

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members of the Planning Commission. Uh

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my name is Michael Campbell

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and we thank you for the time to hear

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our requests. My wife and I are

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requesting approximately 4 acres

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of our 83-acre property to be rezoned

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from R1

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residential to A1. Our goal is simple.

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We want to use a small portion of our

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property as a hobby farm

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for our family while preserving the

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natural rural character of the land. The

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Homeowners Association publicly claimed

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that our property was subject to the HOA

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restrictions and stated that its

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attorney had prepared an opinion

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supporting that position.

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We respectfully requested a copy of that

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opinion so that we could better

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understand their position.

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But our request was denied.

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Because of the conflicting information,

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we sought legal counsel

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to better understand the issues

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surrounding our property.

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While these legal questions

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>> are still unresolved, we've made every

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» are still unresolved, we've made every

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effort to be transparent

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and forthcoming by sharing the

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information and findings available to us

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throughout this process.

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I mention this only because it explains

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why there's been confusion surrounding

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our property.

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I understand the declarations itself is

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not the issue before you tonight.

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I'm not asking the commission

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to resolve the legal that legal

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question. My request this evening is

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simply for the rezoning

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of 4 acres based on the merits of the

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application.

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Turning to rezoning itself,

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>> we believe this request is both

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» we believe this request is both

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reasonable and compatible with the

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surrounding area.

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We are seeking A1 zoning on only 4 acres

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of the land that exceeds 80.

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Much of the land surrounding is already

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zoned A1,

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making this request consistent with the

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nearby land uses.

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This is not a request for agricultural a

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commercial agriculture,

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a livestock operation,

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or an intensive use of the property.

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We simply want a small hobby farm

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with a limited number of animals for our

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families' enjoyment.

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The animals will remain in a fenced area

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on our property. The land where the

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animals will graze

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is simply approximately 200 ft from the

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nearest neighboring property line.

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We intentionally chose that location

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it's closest to our residence,

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minimizes additional land disturbance,

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makes our daily care practical.

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This request will not increase

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residential density.

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It will not create significant traffic.

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It will not require additional public

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infrastructure.

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Instead, it will preserve open space

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and maintain the rural character that

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drew us to Walton County.

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We've worked diligently to comply with

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the county's requirements throughout

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this process.

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We've made every effort to be respectful

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of both our neighbors

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and the county.

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I understand that change can sometimes

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create concern.

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I simply ask this application be

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considered based on the facts before you

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and the planning merits of the rezoning

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request.

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We believe this is an appropriate,

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low-impact

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agricultural use that is compatible with

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the surrounding area and consistent with

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Walton County's

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rural heritage. Thank you for your time,

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your consideration, your service to the

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community,

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and we respectfully ask for your

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approval of our request.

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At this time, just stay right there if

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you don't mind for sir. At this time, is

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there any questions from any of the

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board members for this applicant?

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>> To what extent

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would the would the hobby farm be

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What what are you proposing?

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>> Um we're trying to do um four sheep,

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» Um we're trying to do um four sheep,

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four goats, and up to 12 chickens, and

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that would be the max. And we're just

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trying to graze the

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I'm sorry. Um four chickens I'm sorry.

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Four goats, four sheep, 12 chickens

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would be the maximum we're asking for.

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We only have three stalls, which is 440

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square feet of the barndominium would

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actually be allocated for animals, so

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it's a kind of a small space, so we

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really couldn't do any more than that in

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the barndominium.

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Um

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and it's really to graze the hill going

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down is a sloped hill, and it would keep

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us from having to use a tractor

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um or, you know, something else to

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graze that for us.

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» Thank you. Any additional questions?

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>> You currently live in the

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» You currently live in the

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the barndominium or in an adjoining

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home?

299
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>> Um our home is on the lot right next

300
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» Um our home is on the lot right next

301
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door. It's 3085 Brooks Trail on a 3-acre

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lot. Um the 86 acres only has the

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barndominium and we're using it um

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to help our family aging family members

305
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and um have small groups and stuff like

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that in it. So, it's not a like we're

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not going to be living in it.

308
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>> So, you won't have a a permanent

309
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» So, you won't have a a permanent

310
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residence at that barndominium?

311
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>> No, it will it will be in our

312
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» No, it will it will be in our

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possession, but not a residence.

314
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>> Okay.

315
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» Okay.

316
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>> I'm sorry, I'll talk up. I'm sorry.

317
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» Josh, uh

318
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I I don't know if it's worthy, but maybe

319
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whoever could not hear the last reply,

320
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if you want to repeat what the applicant

321
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said there to your question.

322
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>> Sure. Um the barndominium will not be

323
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» Sure. Um the barndominium will not be

324
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used for our um residence. We built it

325
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our aging parents um live in Idaho, and

326
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we wanted to provide a spot for them. Um

327
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you know, if they want to snowbird here,

328
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um and also, you know, when family comes

329
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into town, it's primarily a residence,

330
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and then we have a large garage area

331
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that's um heated and cooled, not

332
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appropriate for animals, that will be

333
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used for like a small group space or

334
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um if we ever had, you know, a vehicle

335
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or something that we needed to store

336
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there.

337
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» Okay. Any other questions?

338
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>> But the only access you have is through

339
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» But the only access you have is through

340
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the community, right?

341
00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:34,790
>> It is.

342
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» It is.

343
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>> nothing out to 81

344
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» nothing out to 81

345
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>> Correct.

346
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» Correct.

347
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>> Correct. And um our house is the only

348
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» Correct. And um our house is the only

349
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house on the cul-de-sac, so we do share

350
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one side of the cul-de-sac is our

351
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driveway to our residence, the other

352
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side of the driveway is to the

353
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barn-dominium.

354
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Um and I know that some of you may be

355
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concerned about the gravel, um and we

356
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will address that. We are it's part of

357
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the building process um that we will

358
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make an apron, make sure that that

359
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gravel is taken care of.

360
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>> The barn-dominium, did you

361
00:18:05,950 --> 00:18:05,960
» The barn-dominium, did you

362
00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,040
It don't really go with a community over

363
00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,720
there. Did y'all go through the HOA to

364
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get approval of what you built?

365
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,870
>> We did. We We did not think that we were

366
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» We did. We We did not think that we were

367
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subject to the

368
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um HOA covenants, but as a courtesy, we

369
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did go to the HOA and ask for a metal

370
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building to be built um that size and

371
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approximately that location. We did have

372
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to turn the building, and I do have a

373
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I might have I don't know if I actually

374
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,720
added it to your paperwork, but we did

375
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have to turn the building. I think it's

376
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like

377
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maybe 35° or 40° from where we said it

378
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,520
would be.

379
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,800
Um it does make it slightly more

380
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visible, unfortunately, because we

381
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turned it a little bit. And I know that

382
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,600
that's a concern that we are hoping to

383
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address um and hoping we can talk to the

384
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HOA board about that, which we've never

385
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had any communication with the HOA board

386
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,440
about this yet, the current sitting

387
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board.

388
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,040
» Okay. Thank you.

389
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,240
Anyone else?

390
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,560
I've got a few questions, but I'm going

391
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to bring them I'm going to hold them for

392
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,720
uh your time of rebuttal. So, we

393
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appreciate it. You guys can have a seat.

394
00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,600
Is there anyone here tonight in

395
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:20,630
opposition to this request?

396
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,040
All right. So, obviously I can't give 10

397
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minutes to each one of y'all out there.

398
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,600
Hopefully y'all have somebody who can

399
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speak on their path or the ones that I'm

400
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going to call up can be timely.

401
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,800
Yep. Okay. So, or by you standing, does

402
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,360
that mean you're walking?

403
00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:37,080
Come to the podium, give us your name,

404
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:45,990
address, and then state your concerns.

405
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000
» Uh Mr. Chairman, my name is Ed Fair and

406
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my mother and I live

407
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in the neighborhood, 1620 Bluff Creek

408
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Trail.

409
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And we're here in opposition to the

410
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,080
rezoning.

411
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If you look at the application for this

412
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rezoning, I think it's page 10

413
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on tonight's agenda.

414
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The reason says, quote,

415
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"To allow appropriate tax classification

416
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for the structure

417
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and to permit raising farm animals on

418
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the property."

419
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,870
End quote.

420
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,520
A little bit about that structure.

421
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,240
It's already built.

422
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,520
It's quite large and it's far out of

423
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character in the neighborhood.

424
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And it was built despite much opposition

425
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from the neighbors.

426
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If the owner didn't understand the tax

427
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,840
implications of building his structure,

428
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,040
that's on him.

429
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,360
And if he didn't understand the

430
00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:50,720
livestock restrictions on his property,

431
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,440
that's on him, too.

432
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,640
So, now he's trying to turn his problems

433
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,480
into our problems.

434
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,680
So, even if he promises only to do

435
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,880
one, two, and three with the property

436
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today, there's nothing to stop him or

437
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,160
the next owner in the future

438
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,720
from doing five, six, and seven,

439
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eight, nine, and 10.

440
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For example,

441
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,230
put a cell phone tower up.

442
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,720
Put some electrical lines through the

443
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neighborhood.

444
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:32,910
Or open a Airbnb.

445
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,480
So, it's for these reasons that we

446
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would ask you to

447
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,800
deny the application. Thank you.

448
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:46,190
>> Thank you, sir.

449
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,400
Well, you jumped up, so I don't know

450
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,680
what I'm going to tell you now. I don't

451
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,680
know.

452
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,440
I may I I'm not Once you jump up, I

453
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,520
ain't going to tell you no. What would

454
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,160
your husband tell you?

455
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,270
>> He doesn't tell me no.

456
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:55,280
» He doesn't tell me no.

457
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,590
>> Okay.

458
00:21:56,590 --> 00:21:56,600
» Okay.

459
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,150
>> Um my name is Jessica Seifert. I live in

460
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» Um my name is Jessica Seifert. I live in

461
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Alcovy Bluff.

462
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,640
Um

463
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,760
many of our neighbors has have asked me

464
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,480
to speak tonight on their behalf

465
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,280
regarding this rezoning request. Um

466
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,120
thank you for the opportunity to speak.

467
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:14,640
Um we as a community respectfully ask

468
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,760
that you deny this request to rezone

469
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,960
these four acres of the property from R1

470
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,400
to A1.

471
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,600
Um this is not about opposing anyone's

472
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,560
desire to own farm animals or have a

473
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,280
hobby farm. We respect private property

474
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,560
rights.

475
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,560
Um

476
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we also understand that the county has

477
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the authority to approve this request if

478
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it determines it is appropriate.

479
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However, with that authority comes the

480
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responsibility to consider whether the

481
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proposed zoning is compatible with the

482
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surrounding area, serves the public

483
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,440
interest, and will benefit not only the

484
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,200
applicant, but the surrounding

485
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,600
community.

486
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,680
Tonight's decision will affect far more

487
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,760
than one property owner.

488
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,320
So, I do have a picture here. Um it's an

489
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,960
aerial photograph from Google Maps. Um

490
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600
and it shows why this request is

491
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,680
different. I probably should have given

492
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,280
it to you beforehand, but it shows that

493
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,760
there's only one entrance. There's only

494
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,200
one way to access this property.

495
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,880
And so while there are agricultural

496
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,400
properties, I know he said there are

497
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,280
many agricultural properties surrounding

498
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,240
the area, those are not accessed through

499
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,760
Alcove Bluffs.

500
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,600
Um they're accessed from outside roads.

501
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040
So any future use of this property will

502
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,680
directly affect the families who live

503
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,480
there every day.

504
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,400
There are more than 160 families

505
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,800
invested in Alcove Bluffs because it is

506
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,720
an established residential community.

507
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,320
The application states that the purpose

508
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,680
of this rezoning is to allow a

509
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,880
residence, pasture, a barn with animal

510
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,960
stalls, and an orchard and garden for

511
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,800
personal use. It sounds harmless and we

512
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,520
respect those intentions. However, A1

513
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,160
zoning stays with the land, not the

514
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,600
owner.

515
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,920
Today's proposal may be for personal

516
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,960
use, but your decision will affect every

517
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,760
future owner of this property.

518
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,800
So in the rezoning application, it also

519
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,480
says that um this property is not part

520
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,920
of a subdivision.

521
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,760
And we did have um a title search done.

522
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,960
I have that um certificate. I did submit

523
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,440
that to the county for y'all's um review

524
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,680
beforehand.

525
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,640
Um happy to give it to you also. Um and

526
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,480
and the entire community, but I did

527
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,800
send a message out to the community with

528
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,760
a summary of that that said exactly what

529
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,200
it was. So um

530
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,480
We've also been told by the county that

531
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,040
enforcing private covenants is

532
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,240
ultimately the responsibility of the HOA

533
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,440
and I completely understand that. Uh

534
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,160
we're not asking you to enforce our

535
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,120
covenants.

536
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:40,320
But we do not believe that lessens the

537
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,120
commission's responsibility to make its

538
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,040
recommendation based on complete and

539
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,280
accurate information.

540
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,200
So um

541
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,640
We simply ask that the commission

542
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,400
carefully consider all of the relevant

543
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,040
information before making a permanent

544
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,320
zoning recommendation.

545
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,440
While the Campbells did request approval

546
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,360
for the barndominium

547
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,480
from the HOA, they did not approach the

548
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,120
current board with their intentions

549
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:06,920
before requesting this rezoning.

550
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,320
We learned about it when you put the

551
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,680
signs up.

552
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,680
Um also,

553
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,920
many homeowners are concerned because of

554
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,040
what has already occurred on this

555
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,760
property. When the approval for the

556
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,080
barndominium was requested from the HOA

557
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,680
board, the written request stated that

558
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,680
the structure would be positioned so

559
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,120
that it would not be visible from the

560
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,800
street.

561
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,080
Today, the completed structure is

562
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,760
clearly visible from Brooks Trail.

563
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,360
Particularly during the winter months

564
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:35,520
when the trees have no leaves.

565
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,760
Because of that experience, many

566
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,240
homeowners are asking the commission to

567
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,560
carefully consider not only the

568
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,680
applicant's current intentions, but also

569
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,320
the long-term consequences of

570
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,840
permanently changing the zoning of this

571
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,200
property.

572
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,520
Through records obtained from Walton

573
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,760
County open records requests,

574
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,760
many open records requests, sorry. Uh

575
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,600
we were unable to identify another

576
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,720
barndominium approved on R-1 zoned

577
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,120
property. While every application should

578
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,120
be considered individually, this appears

579
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,360
to be an unusual situation that has

580
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:04,800
affected many homeowners in our

581
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,360
community.

582
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:07,520
Tonight's decision isn't about a

583
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,840
barndominium, but it's also not just

584
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,280
simply about 4 acres either.

585
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,760
It's about balancing the rights of one

586
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,840
property owner with the impact on an

587
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,200
established residential community.

588
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,360
We can't go back and change the

589
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:20,760
decisions that have already been made on

590
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,400
this property,

591
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,440
but the commission does have the

592
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,680
opportunity to shape what happens going

593
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,760
forward. We respectfully ask that you

594
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,280
preserve the residential character of

595
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,200
Alcove Bluffs by denying this rezoning

596
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,280
request.

597
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,120
Thank you for your time and your

598
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:34,800
consideration and also your service to

599
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,840
Walton County.

600
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,310
>> Thank you.

601
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,960
Thank you. Uh any questions for this

602
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,720
person that's in opposition here?

603
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,840
Thank you, ma'am.

604
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,760
Who else uh Who has something to state

605
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,920
about this request that has not yet been

606
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,520
stated because

607
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,360
from now on, we're getting close to our

608
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,200
time limit. If I start hearing things

609
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,320
that's going to be stated, I'm either

610
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,680
going to ask you to move on or let

611
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,920
somebody else come up, okay? So, just

612
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,440
give me something different. That's all

613
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,240
I'm asking for.

614
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Sir, state your name, your address, and

615
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,040
tell us what your concerns are.

616
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,150
>> Dan Reynolds. I'm at uh 1490 1429 Bluff

617
00:27:12,150 --> 00:27:12,160
» Dan Reynolds. I'm at uh 1490 1429 Bluff

618
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,640
Creek Trail in Alcovy Bluff subdivision.

619
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,040
Um

620
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,880
what I think it's important to note is

621
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,840
that once this rezoning does go into

622
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,240
place, and even though we've been told

623
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,400
this evening there's going to be a

624
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,400
couple of chickens, maybe a goat, and a

625
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,880
dog,

626
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,800
the zoning does provide for large hoofed

627
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,760
animals,

628
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,360
horses, cows, etc. And they can be two

629
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:41,160
per fenced acre. That means on 4 acres,

630
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,640
we can have up to eight of any one of

631
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,160
those. Also, multiple when it comes to

632
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,040
goats, sheep, etc., you can have up to

633
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,440
eight per acre. Now, what concerns us is

634
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,480
not necessarily what happens tomorrow,

635
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,720
but what happens next year because once

636
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,080
the zoning takes place,

637
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600
these rules are in place forever. That

638
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,520
someone could take over this piece of

639
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,240
property and basically start not a hobby

640
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,720
farm, but a real farm. One thing to

641
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,920
note, if cattle's put on there, just

642
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,560
eight cows produce,

643
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,480
and I used Walton County Extension

644
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,480
Service University of Georgia to get

645
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,560
these numbers, but at 4,500 lb per

646
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,840
month,

647
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,960
four head of cattle produce 36,000

648
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,320
lb of waste each and every month.

649
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,360
What's going to happen to that waste?

650
00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:35,880
Where does it go?

651
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,000
Back through our neighborhood?

652
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000
Or is Or is that property going to be

653
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,280
able to sustain that?

654
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,800
Um the prevailing winds there come off

655
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,360
that property

656
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,520
uh

657
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,080
being west

658
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,960
by northwest back through the

659
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,360
neighborhood each and every day and

660
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,114
that's also given to me

661
00:28:55,114 --> 00:28:55,630
>> [clears throat]

662
00:28:55,630 --> 00:28:55,640
» [clears throat]

663
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,990
>> by the extension service.

664
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:58,000
» by the extension service.

665
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Uh community health effects from those

666
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,800
who live within 200 ft of this can can

667
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,640
be quite uh

668
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,120
it can be a problem when you have this

669
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,080
type of waste taking place.

670
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,480
Elderly people, small children, asthma,

671
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,000
COPD, etc. There are lots of reasons not

672
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,720
to let this go to an A1 configuration

673
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,640
where you can have that many animals on

674
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,880
that piece of land

675
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,880
be it tomorrow or 2 years from now.

676
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,360
There are too many people that live

677
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,600
within 200 ft of this.

678
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,120
Thank you for your time.

679
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,590
>> Thank you, sir.

680
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,000
All right, now two of y'all jumped up

681
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,070
same time.

682
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,560
Okay.

683
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,280
State your name and address. Tell us

684
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:48,720
what you have.

685
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,070
>> Clinton Bostwick, 1609 Bluff Creek

686
00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:51,080
» Clinton Bostwick, 1609 Bluff Creek

687
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Trail.

688
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,200
And I

689
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,400
I have a

690
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,640
a summary of what y'all basically

691
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,200
already heard. I'd like to pass it to

692
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,680
y'all guys if that's cool.

693
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:05,630
>> Yeah, that's fine.

694
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,550
» Thank you.

695
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,920
» Thank you, sir.

696
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,870
>> Thank you.

697
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,430
I'm sorry.

698
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,120
So basically that's a summary of what

699
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,400
you've already heard or some of it

700
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,800
tonight. And I have 75 signatures

701
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,760
that the neighbors signed to that

702
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,080
that that basically agreed with those

703
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:33,760
statements.

704
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,310
>> Do you have those signatures with you?

705
00:30:35,310 --> 00:30:35,320
» Do you have those signatures with you?

706
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:35,590
>> Yes.

707
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:35,600
» Yes.

708
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:41,190
>> Would you please hand them to Ms. Tracy?

709
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:41,880
» Thank you for your time.

710
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:47,190
>> Yep, thank you. Sir.

711
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,360
Tell me something I haven't heard.

712
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,520
New and improved.

713
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,150
>> Uh my name's David Johnson. I live at

714
00:30:53,150 --> 00:30:53,160
» Uh my name's David Johnson. I live at

715
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,080
1625 Bluff Creek Trail, and I'm a

716
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,360
20-year resident of Bluff Creek, and

717
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,480
before that lived in a neighborhood in

718
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,120
Loganville with no HOA, and it was the

719
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,720
suburban wild west. It was anything

720
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,360
goes, and when we finally escaped there,

721
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,240
we lost tens of thousands of dollars in

722
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,840
equity because of what other people were

723
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,280
just

724
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,280
willingly allowed to do.

725
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,920
And that's our concern here as we're

726
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,040
dealing with this.

727
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,870
>> I'm sorry, yes. And that's our concern

728
00:31:21,870 --> 00:31:21,880
» I'm sorry, yes. And that's our concern

729
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,640
here as we face the situation. As people

730
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,640
have said, they we know what the plans

731
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,520
have been stated for this, but they've

732
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,240
been very fluid and vague throughout,

733
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,600
and we're not really sure what could

734
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,520
happen, but we do know one thing that

735
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,200
that's of concern, and the bottom line

736
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,080
is this is that

737
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,880
the plans could potentially be very

738
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,360
beneficial

739
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,160
for the owner and whatever they plan to

740
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,120
do,

741
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,600
but for the rest of the community, for

742
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,280
all the rest of the people,

743
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,120
it's going to have zero benefit, and the

744
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,000
fact is it could potentially have a very

745
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,320
negative impact on us and on what is for

746
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,960
most of us our biggest investment. So,

747
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,640
with

748
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,720
that being said, we do request that you

749
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,680
not allow the rezoning to go through.

750
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,630
Thank you.

751
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,720
Thank you, sir.

752
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Is anyone who has something new to add

753
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,200
that's here in opposition that I we as a

754
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,960
board have not heard?

755
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,640
Yes, ma'am.

756
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Please come to the microphone, state

757
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,920
your name and address, and then tell us

758
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:28,710
what you have.

759
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,960
» Linda Dudish, 1601 Bluff Creek Trail. I

760
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,800
just want to remind I don't I haven't

761
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,200
heard every

762
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,960
every person, but I don't it has been

763
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,400
brought up. This actually impacts three

764
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,200
different cul-de-sacs, not just one,

765
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,680
which is next to the house,

766
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,160
um the actual resident

767
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,240
residents. And then the other thing was

768
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,480
that

769
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,840
we were told

770
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,960
we would not be able to see the

771
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,680
barndominium.

772
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,800
And this is part of the permit.

773
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,720
But the barndominium is already built,

774
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,520
and it's very visible.

775
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,600
That's all.

776
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,910
>> Thank you.

777
00:33:08,910 --> 00:33:08,920
» Thank you.

778
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,870
Anyone else?

779
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,920
All right, thank you so much. Sir, I'm

780
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,320
going to ask that you come back up for

781
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:32,230
rebuttal.

782
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,960
» Um I think that some Go ahead.

783
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,470
>> Yeah, pull it. Yeah, you're you're kind

784
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:36,480
» Yeah, pull it. Yeah, you're you're kind

785
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,480
of tall there.

786
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,510
>> Um I think that some of um

787
00:33:40,510 --> 00:33:40,520
» Um I think that some of um

788
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,760
the concerns about um if we are in the

789
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,560
HOA and within the restrictions, and we

790
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,520
understand if we are in the HOA and

791
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,440
we're in the restrictions, obviously we

792
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,800
will not have animals. This is only um

793
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,480
if the lawyers find that we are indeed

794
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,480
outside of the covenants, um which right

795
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,440
now is still

796
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,240
am- ambiguous. We're still doing our

797
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,440
research to figure that out. Um also, I

798
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,000
did want to say that there is a petition

799
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,560
with lots of signatures, and I do

800
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,120
believe there was a lot of signatures

801
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,560
there with information that wasn't

802
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520
accurate. I know that there was a rumor

803
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,360
going around that it was a petting zoo

804
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,360
um that we were trying to have there,

805
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,520
and without um a number of other um

806
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,440
um approval,

807
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,159
we can't do a petting zoo at 81. That

808
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,120
was never our intent um and that's

809
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,080
something that would go through more

810
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,760
scrutiny and more regulations and we

811
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,639
just we wouldn't be able to do that and

812
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:45,600
um

813
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,520
we also did try to approach the board.

814
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,040
At this point, we've never talked to

815
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,800
anybody on the HOA the current sitting

816
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,879
HOA board, although we've reached out um

817
00:34:55,879 --> 00:34:57,840
twice through email.

818
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,800
I think

819
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,670
>> Also, my cell phone has been on the

820
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:01,680
» Also, my cell phone has been on the

821
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,360
thread for every single neighbor to

822
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,440
call. Two have called.

823
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,000
Two.

824
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,510
>> Thank you.

825
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:09,520
» Thank you.

826
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,190
>> Um we've also we've also um

827
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:13,200
» Um we've also we've also um

828
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,840
um approached the um

829
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,400
the um

830
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,840
I think we have approached the HOA

831
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,720
president um via text and phone and um

832
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:27,280
the management company, although I know

833
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,360
they're not the current management

834
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,480
company, but we have approached them and

835
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,320
they said that they would not be sharing

836
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,160
any information with us. So um

837
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,960
yeah, we've made attempts and I do

838
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,640
understand that um seeing

839
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,080
the the barn is distressing for a lot of

840
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,840
people and we do want to address that

841
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,840
and we know that you know

842
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,720
possibly putting up a gate is something

843
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:53,480
that might help, but without

844
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,920
communication with the board um HOA

845
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,720
board, we wouldn't want to do anything

846
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,520
like that and we have planted um some

847
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,480
some shrubs and stuff that will grow and

848
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,880
hopefully it will at some point

849
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,480
completely be obstructed from any view

850
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,520
from any cul-de-sac. Um and then also um

851
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,040
we did get

852
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,720
an evaluation

853
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,360
of our property from a very reputable

854
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,240
real estate agent and I'd like to share

855
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,600
that information with you guys. Um right

856
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,600
now the barndominium will be valued um

857
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,600
as the highest um

858
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,200
the

859
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,640
Yeah, it'll be the most expensive

860
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,880
structure in the neighborhood if it's

861
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,120
sold for what the real estate agent is

862
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,760
asking.

863
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,870
>> This this structure

864
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:40,880
» This this structure

865
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,480
will bring the value of the neighborhood

866
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,640
up.

867
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,120
That's what we need to say.

868
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,670
>> Right.

869
00:36:46,670 --> 00:36:46,680
» Right.

870
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,160
So,

871
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,840
uh I'm going to ask while they're up

872
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,000
here if you guys can kind of help me

873
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,960
out.

874
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,600
Don't Okay, if you can't hear, you can

875
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,960
let us know you can't hear, but uh

876
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,600
please no outburst. They were very

877
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,600
polite. They sat over there while you

878
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,320
spoke in opposition and didn't

879
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,800
interrupt. And for you guys to

880
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,680
ad-lib while they're up there, I think

881
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,000
it's a little bit disrespectful. So, if

882
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,080
you could help us with that, I'd

883
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,640
appreciate it.

884
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,470
>> Sir, can I mention one other thing, too?

885
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:14,480
» Sir, can I mention one other thing, too?

886
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,310
>> Sure.

887
00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:15,320
» Sure.

888
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,150
>> So, on the communication to the board

889
00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:19,160
» So, on the communication to the board

890
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,880
on the communication to the board on the

891
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,600
Facebook page, there is a communication

892
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,760
that went out to the HOA.

893
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,800
And in that communication,

894
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,510
there is a

895
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,440
a notice saying if we wanted to get the

896
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,840
results

897
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,720
of a legal opinion,

898
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,480
it was right there.

899
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,040
You can ask for it and we'll give it to

900
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,520
you. Within 5 minutes, I asked for it.

901
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,280
And I did not hear any communication,

902
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,080
and then later on, it was denied.

903
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,800
And so, in this process, we've tried to

904
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,880
be communicative.

905
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,600
We've We're sick over this. This has

906
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,640
been a

907
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,600
terrible situation, and we are nervous

908
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,000
as all get out. And we have tried to be

909
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,720
respectful of these Facebook boards that

910
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,480
have said terrible

911
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,480
incorrect information.

912
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,720
This has not been a hard an easy process

913
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:22,800
for us.

914
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,280
And in it we've tried to be kind

915
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,310
throughout it.

916
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,120
And we operated with the information

917
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,790
that we had. That's it.

918
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,120
» Thank you.

919
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,800
Um I've got a couple of questions for

920
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,000
you and I'll open it up to any of the

921
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,440
other board members have a question as

922
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,400
well.

923
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,910
Um

924
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,160
I'm going to make some assumptions just

925
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,880
to asking you if you could just kind of

926
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,360
answer these because they're just

927
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,840
helping me filter things through my

928
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,120
mind.

929
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,960
Um you guys purchased this property and

930
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,600
when you did so

931
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,400
you went to an attorney's office for a

932
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,240
closing.

933
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:04,600
And

934
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,600
for whatever

935
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,520
sum you paid for the property you were

936
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,360
given a deed to this property. Is that

937
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,080
correct?

938
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,830
>> Yes, sir.

939
00:39:11,830 --> 00:39:11,840
» Yes, sir.

940
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,630
>> Was that deed for the entirety or was it

941
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:14,640
» Was that deed for the entirety or was it

942
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,480
in different parcels?

943
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,950
>> There's two parcels.

944
00:39:17,950 --> 00:39:17,960
» There's two parcels.

945
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,150
>> But so so you were given deed to two

946
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:20,160
» But so so you were given deed to two

947
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,200
separate parcels.

948
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,670
>> Correct.

949
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:21,680
» Correct.

950
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,070
>> Okay.

951
00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:22,080
» Okay.

952
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,950
>> Correct.

953
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:22,960
» Correct.

954
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,150
>> Did

955
00:39:25,150 --> 00:39:25,160
» Did

956
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,000
in remembrance of that

957
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,840
do you remember that either of those

958
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,200
parcels were identified by a lot number

959
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,400
regarding the neighborhood?

960
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,670
>> S- Sir, I I can't answer I don't know.

961
00:39:38,670 --> 00:39:38,680
» S- Sir, I I can't answer I don't know.

962
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,750
>> Okay. Thank you. I I'm I'm just all I

963
00:39:40,750 --> 00:39:40,760
» Okay. Thank you. I I'm I'm just all I

964
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,400
want you to do is answer what you know,

965
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,000
okay?

966
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,350
>> Yes, sir.

967
00:39:43,350 --> 00:39:43,360
» Yes, sir.

968
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,110
>> There is not a plat

969
00:39:44,110 --> 00:39:44,120
» There is not a plat

970
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,270
>> Were you

971
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:45,280
» Were you

972
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,080
Sir, were were you given uh a title

973
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,960
policy at closing a title insurance

974
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,160
policy at closing?

975
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,910
>> Yes, sir.

976
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:51,920
» Yes, sir.

977
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:58,590
>> Thank you.

978
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,920
I think that's probably all the

979
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,600
questions I have uh

980
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,400
for you guys at this time. Does any

981
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,800
other board members have any other

982
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,640
questions?

983
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,360
Uh I do have one more.

984
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,320
Has your use of the property from when

985
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,080
you initially bought it what your intent

986
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,960
to do with that property? Has it changed

987
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,320
from the time that you bought it till

988
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,840
today?

989
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,630
>> No, sir.

990
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:18,640
» No, sir.

991
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,270
>> So, you intended in the very beginning

992
00:40:20,270 --> 00:40:20,280
» So, you intended in the very beginning

993
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,080
to have animals?

994
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,870
>> No. We

995
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:23,880
» No. We

996
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,720
we did not like we knew we wanted to use

997
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:28,920
the land in some way.

998
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,440
Um

999
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,350
>> So, just give me a yes or no. Was it the

1000
00:40:31,350 --> 00:40:31,360
» So, just give me a yes or no. Was it the

1001
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,960
day you bought it, did you intend to

1002
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,760
have animals?

1003
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,510
>> No.

1004
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:35,520
» No.

1005
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,618
>> She said no.

1006
00:40:36,618 --> 00:40:36,628
» She said no.

1007
00:40:36,628 --> 00:40:37,030
>> [laughter]

1008
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:37,040
» [laughter]

1009
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,870
>> She's the boss.

1010
00:40:37,870 --> 00:40:37,880
» She's the boss.

1011
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,350
>> Right. Well, I mean, you know, it's just

1012
00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:39,360
» Right. Well, I mean, you know, it's just

1013
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,520
a honest real quick question, so no. So,

1014
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,160
what that tells me is that since you've

1015
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,600
owned the property there's been a change

1016
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,000
of something that you guys have done

1017
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,320
that you've had a change. You want to do

1018
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,080
something different that

1019
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,600
you got a large piece of property in

1020
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,600
back of you there, too, so

1021
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,470
>> Use it.

1022
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:53,480
» Use it.

1023
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,230
>> All right, very good. Any other

1024
00:40:55,230 --> 00:40:55,240
» All right, very good. Any other

1025
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:56,800
questions from any other board members?

1026
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,350
>> I have one.

1027
00:40:57,350 --> 00:40:57,360
» I have one.

1028
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,110
>> Okay.

1029
00:40:58,110 --> 00:40:58,120
» Okay.

1030
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,190
>> Uh

1031
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:59,200
» Uh

1032
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,360
correct me if I'm wrong, did you uh make

1033
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,800
a statement that

1034
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,680
you went through the HOA as far as the

1035
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,800
location of the barndominium and they

1036
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,520
requested it to be changed, the

1037
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,160
direction of it?

1038
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,910
>> No, um there's a piece of paper. I

1039
00:41:12,910 --> 00:41:12,920
» No, um there's a piece of paper. I

1040
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,520
handed it to you. Um initially we had

1041
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,960
told the HOA that it was going to be um

1042
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,520
in that little yellow square on that

1043
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,680
paper that I gave you. Um and then we

1044
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,120
did have to rotate it because the grade

1045
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,360
of the land was too sharp. We couldn't

1046
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,600
actually get a stable enough foundation.

1047
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,120
So, we did have to rotate the barn a

1048
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,920
little bit, but um that was that was a

1049
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,720
change that we made that um was

1050
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,280
different than the HOA. But at the time

1051
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,240
we honestly thought that the HOA we were

1052
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,240
only being considerate and that we

1053
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:42,160
didn't actually have to get their

1054
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,560
approval. Um we were under the

1055
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,200
assumption, well, not assumption. I

1056
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,720
mean, it's even on um some of the Q

1057
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:54,040
public says we're not in the HOA. Um and

1058
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,520
plats that say we're not in the HOA and

1059
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,280
our deed that says we're not in the HOA.

1060
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,800
Um so, we did not think at the time that

1061
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,040
we were in the HOA.

1062
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:02,510
>> Okay, thanks.

1063
00:42:02,510 --> 00:42:02,520
» Okay, thanks.

1064
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,830
>> Okay, thank you.

1065
00:42:04,830 --> 00:42:04,840
» Okay, thank you.

1066
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,950
Any other questions?

1067
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:13,950
Thank you all. We appreciate it.

1068
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,190
Mhm.

1069
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,640
» Yeah.

1070
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,464
So, is there anyone here

1071
00:42:19,464 --> 00:42:20,270
>> [clears throat]

1072
00:42:20,270 --> 00:42:20,280
» [clears throat]

1073
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,910
>> who would be a proponent of the

1074
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:21,920
» who would be a proponent of the

1075
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,640
applicant that would speak on their

1076
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,160
behalf that is in favor of what they're

1077
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,320
doing? Or their request?

1078
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,680
All right, thank you.

1079
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,560
So, at this time I'm going to

1080
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,680
close the

1081
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,480
public comment section

1082
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,200
uh

1083
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,750
for this request.

1084
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,000
Uh I I

1085
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,880
have a lot of stuff in

1086
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,040
this this came to me. I wasn't here last

1087
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,960
meeting. This was table.

1088
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Uh it came to me this afternoon. Uh I

1089
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,520
have talked to multiple individuals this

1090
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,880
afternoon

1091
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,720
um regarding this case. Uh it's it's

1092
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:58,600
quite odd.

1093
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,560
I'm I'm going to look at this in three

1094
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,720
different objective views.

1095
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,840
One is I sit here as the chairman for

1096
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,200
the planning commission. One

1097
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,320
uh 28 years as a licensed realtor.

1098
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,960
And thirdly,

1099
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,560
uh

1100
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,360
as a member of the community. So, I kind

1101
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,440
of have

1102
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,840
three different I live a very short

1103
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,000
distance from this property.

1104
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,750
Um

1105
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,400
One thing that I asked questions

1106
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,960
initially. I called Christie this

1107
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,680
afternoon.

1108
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,160
And my question was

1109
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,160
Chris Christie, was there a final plat

1110
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,200
for the neighbor neighborhood recorded?

1111
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,840
And obviously, if you guys are living in

1112
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,000
houses there, the answer is yes because

1113
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,520
you could never get title to a property

1114
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,960
without a recorded plat. That's where

1115
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,200
the final recorded plat

1116
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,040
indicates every lot that's in that

1117
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,640
neighborhood and has a ton of notes that

1118
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,000
are required by the development

1119
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,040
department. It also shows each and every

1120
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,280
lot usually on a sidebar.

1121
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,760
It will indicate each lot in that

1122
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,080
neighborhood.

1123
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,200
My second question to Christie was

1124
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,520
was the partial or any portion of the

1125
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,920
partial

1126
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,440
that is the request has been made for

1127
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,600
tonight. Was any of either of those

1128
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,480
partials given a lot number?

1129
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,240
And Christie's answer was no.

1130
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,080
I actually have in front of me while

1131
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,880
we're sitting here. I just cuz I have

1132
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,400
quick access to it. I've pulled up the

1133
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,040
tax records.

1134
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,160
And

1135
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,520
I'm not going to say exclusively because

1136
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,600
that would be a bit unfair.

1137
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,440
Um but I will say predominantly

1138
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,880
if I pull a tax record up and the

1139
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,800
property I'm looking at is part of any

1140
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,520
neighborhood

1141
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,000
the name of the neighborhood is listed

1142
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,240
on the tax report.

1143
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,400
Neither of the partials, whether it be

1144
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,240
the large partial they have or the

1145
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:57,240
smaller partial which is being requested

1146
00:44:57,240 --> 00:44:59,560
tonight, neither of those pop up with a

1147
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,630
subdivision name.

1148
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,120
Um I just told you in what capacity I'm

1149
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,720
viewing this. So the one I did not

1150
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:09,240
mention and there's a fine lady sitting

1151
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:11,640
out here with a blue dress on

1152
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,280
uh

1153
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,960
who would remind me quickly I'm not an

1154
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,280
attorney.

1155
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,280
Um

1156
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,280
but after attending

1157
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,520
hundreds and hundreds of closings

1158
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,280
I will say there are certain things that

1159
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,480
take place that we

1160
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,360
adhere to and acknowledge.

1161
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,240
And one of those is that as we have

1162
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,320
clients who purchase in neighborhoods

1163
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,440
that's tell us, "Hey, we would like to

1164
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,800
have

1165
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,040
a survey of our lot where we can install

1166
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,600
a fence." Our reply is, "That's on a

1167
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,600
final plat that's recorded for the

1168
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640
entirety of the neighborhood that shows

1169
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,760
all of the lots and you can do so by

1170
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,440
contacting a surveyor.

1171
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,480
They will reference the final plat, find

1172
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,160
your lot, find the dimensions, stake

1173
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,760
your lot, build your fence, but you have

1174
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,080
to go

1175
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,960
and you have to find the final plat. It

1176
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,520
shows every lot. If you're looking at a

1177
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,960
5-acre out parcel, obviously it's going

1178
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,960
to only show that 5 acres. There's just

1179
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,760
one parcel. But in subdivisions, they're

1180
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,000
recorded as a

1181
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,840
final plat recording. At that time, also

1182
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,480
deemed necessary would be if there's

1183
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,840
going to be HOA or covenants that those

1184
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,600
HOA that that the covenants would be

1185
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,920
recorded at the same time.

1186
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,600
The covenants would be applicable only

1187
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,240
to in most cases, the lots that are

1188
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:32,680
referenced on the plat that's being

1189
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,080
recorded. It would be frivolous for

1190
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,960
someone to put a neighborhood next to my

1191
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,600
house

1192
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,800
and then the HOA of that neighborhood

1193
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,760
want to impose

1194
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,480
their covenants on me because I'm not

1195
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,840
listed on the plat.

1196
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,280
So, in asting asking Christie

1197
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,480
if their lot or their property is shown

1198
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,960
on the final recorded plat for the

1199
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,800
neighborhood and the answer being no,

1200
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,760
then the only assessment I can make,

1201
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,720
not being an attorney, but just trying

1202
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,320
to conceptually understand things,

1203
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,760
is that there should not be any

1204
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,360
adherence by them if they're not on that

1205
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,680
final recorded plat. I mean, that's just

1206
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,320
me trying to use common logic.

1207
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,600
So,

1208
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,440
I I take that and then I start looking

1209
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,840
at other things. And some of those being

1210
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,480
the question that I ask,

1211
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,000
"Was your intent when you bought the

1212
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,480
property to have animals?" No.

1213
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,920
"Well, do you have the right to change

1214
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,000
your mind?" Certainly.

1215
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,480
I've I've changed the use of my

1216
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,800
property. I didn't have to change the

1217
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,320
zoning, but I've changed the use of it

1218
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,680
several times. You know, I used to have

1219
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,840
cattle, now I don't. I do other things.

1220
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,160
I mean, I you know, I just changed the

1221
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,080
use of my property. So,

1222
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,440
uh do I have the right to do that? Yeah,

1223
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,720
I mean, I feel like I have a right. It's

1224
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:53,880
my property. I paid for it, paying taxes

1225
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,680
on it. So, I should have a right to use

1226
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,400
it in the manner I wish to use it.

1227
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,880
Um

1228
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,080
So,

1229
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,200
I'm I'm trying to just build in my mind

1230
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,160
as I'm looking at this and then

1231
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,800
I'm thinking about the rest of my agenda

1232
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,440
tonight. I'm not trying to give fuel to

1233
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,040
the fire,

1234
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,800
but I have a couple of subdivision

1235
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,840
requests tonight where we're going to

1236
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,680
hear cases that are asking to be rezoned

1237
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,320
from A1

1238
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,640
to R1 for a neighborhood.

1239
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,520
Uh I would like your participation in a

1240
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,120
little bit if any of y'all can remember

1241
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,840
that and your tenure in the neighborhood

1242
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,200
is long enough.

1243
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,920
Uh about 4 years ago, there was a

1244
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,840
request to rezone 142 acres at the

1245
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,760
corner of 81 and Double Springs Road to

1246
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,640
R1 for a neighborhood. How many of y'all

1247
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,600
remember that by raising your hand?

1248
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,270
How many of you were opposed to it?

1249
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,880
One guy. Come on, y'all be honest with

1250
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,680
me now. How many of you Yes, ma'am, you

1251
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,200
raised yours halfway. You must be

1252
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,120
Baptist.

1253
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,840
Uh

1254
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,120
So, here's where I'm going.

1255
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,200
I'm going to have people tonight who are

1256
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,160
going to come to the podium as you guys

1257
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,360
did,

1258
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,000
and they're going to tell me why

1259
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,960
I should really contemplate not allowing

1260
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,480
the use of a subdivision on an

1261
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,600
agricultural property

1262
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,960
on the same night that I've got

1263
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,200
someone who is wanting

1264
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,560
to take a piece of property that's zoned

1265
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,000
as a {quote} subdivision R1 and change

1266
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,400
it to agricultural.

1267
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,280
Secondly, the 142 acres after it was

1268
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,840
zoned and it was zoned R1,

1269
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,600
was then zoned back to A2. So, it

1270
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,080
currently sits there as A2.

1271
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,840
They can have the cattle. There's been

1272
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,240
cattle there for years and some of you

1273
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:41,720
guys was in support of the cattle and

1274
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:43,920
not the houses.

1275
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,360
The other thing I find most ironic

1276
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,680
is with this property being zoned R1

1277
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,040
without anyone coming before us and

1278
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,160
simply going before Christie and the

1279
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,160
plan and the development department

1280
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,320
that property can be further utilized

1281
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,440
today

1282
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,760
if deemed so

1283
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,320
as a continuing portion of a

1284
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,440
neighborhood with easily

1285
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,160
at a minimum of 70 lots

1286
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,160
which means you're going to have 70 more

1287
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,800
families commuting through your

1288
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,720
neighborhood.

1289
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,880
Okay? You're going to have the traffic

1290
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,640
from the development itself tracking mud

1291
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,040
and concrete trucks. It's the only

1292
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,680
access point.

1293
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:25,680
And you're going to have all the

1294
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,320
constructions of all the houses being

1295
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040
built for the next five or six years.

1296
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,800
And for me to think that you had rather

1297
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,390
be imposed by that

1298
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,040
as opposed to four animals, eight

1299
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,080
animals, whatever

1300
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,120
on 84

1301
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,080
acres they own. I understand we're only

1302
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,360
looking at four, but they have 84 acres

1303
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,680
zoned R1.

1304
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,160
Um

1305
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,720
and if their future plans would be to to

1306
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:56,560
alter that uh to A as well and I don't

1307
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,800
know what their plans are, but I mean if

1308
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,120
it was, it's much seems like it'd be

1309
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,240
much less evasive

1310
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,640
than 70 plus more families coming in out

1311
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,120
of your neighborhood. That's just me. I

1312
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,040
mean, that would be me. Doesn't mean it

1313
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,520
coincides with everyone. So

1314
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,510
um

1315
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,800
I have been able

1316
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,200
hopefully as you can tell to give a

1317
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,040
whole lot of thought to this this

1318
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,400
afternoon. And those are just some of

1319
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,320
the thoughts that I came up with. And

1320
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,880
the reason I bring those up is because I

1321
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,200
didn't hear any of them mentioned

1322
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,320
tonight. You know, as I was attentive to

1323
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,440
what you guys were saying

1324
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,920
I I didn't hear those things that were

1325
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,600
said as to how can we look at this in a

1326
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,560
different manner. What can the property

1327
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,280
be used for?

1328
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,240
I I'm I don't know what's going to

1329
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:43,520
happen. I can tell you what's happened

1330
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,560
in other counties around us.

1331
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,800
Um

1332
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,840
you know, if sewer ever becomes

1333
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,160
available,

1334
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,400
uh they follow

1335
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:57,440
rivers for the flow of for sewer. And if

1336
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,640
that were to ever I mean

1337
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,000
84 acres, then you get three units to

1338
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,240
the acre and you're looking at

1339
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,800
almost 200 houses. I'm just saying,

1340
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,280
somewhere down the road. Who knows? I

1341
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,760
mean

1342
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,000
but

1343
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,840
that we're

1344
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,040
against

1345
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,280
farm animals and agriculture one moment

1346
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,640
and then the other time you're here and

1347
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,520
you're against homes because you want

1348
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,880
the agriculture. I mean, I'm I'm in a

1349
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,440
bit of a struggle. I don't have any hair

1350
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,720
left, so I quit pulling my hair out a

1351
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,160
long time ago. So, uh but it's just hard

1352
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,280
for me to to understand. I don't take it

1353
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,160
that I don't understand your concerns.

1354
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,600
Um and I do have a question that if you

1355
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,880
as a subdivision entity, and that'll be

1356
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,600
determined obviously in a court system,

1357
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,360
but if you have a way without them being

1358
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,880
considered a lot number on a recorded

1359
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,760
plat to impose your covenants upon them,

1360
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,320
uh or if they should even seek your

1361
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,960
approval. I mean, I don't know any of

1362
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,280
that. None of us know it until it's

1363
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,360
decided. So, ma'am, I I'm not coming

1364
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,760
back to public comment.

1365
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,640
I'm not Okay. I'm not I'm I'm good. So,

1366
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,280
those are my concerns and those are just

1367
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,800
some thoughts I had. I hope that you

1368
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,880
guys will exercise those because this is

1369
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,720
not a final decision tonight. This will

1370
00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,680
go before the Board of Commissioners.

1371
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,200
That's where the decision will be made

1372
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,000
final. Hopefully, it'll give you some

1373
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,720
time to kind of both sides. I appreciate

1374
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,120
the fact that you've offered your number

1375
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,520
to to to the people in the community. Uh

1376
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,160
I I'm hope you guys will communicate.

1377
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,920
And uh

1378
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,120
you know, maybe more common ground can

1379
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,320
be found. Um

1380
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,600
but I do find it quite an ironic

1381
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,320
situation. So, with that, is there any

1382
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,000
other discussion upon any of the members

1383
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,510
of the board?

1384
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,280
If not, I will ask for a motion

1385
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,280
regarding this case.

1386
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,550
>> Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion.

1387
00:53:49,550 --> 00:53:49,560
» Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion.

1388
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,280
Um

1389
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,880
in considering this application,

1390
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:54,800
um

1391
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,360
I'm looking at the appropriateness

1392
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,200
uh

1393
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,240
to the

1394
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:02,600
current development patterns in the

1395
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,000
area.

1396
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,280
Um

1397
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,160
I I appreciate your your explanation

1398
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,160
there.

1399
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,280
Um I don't think that the

1400
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,360
fact that the

1401
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,760
whether or not the covenants apply to

1402
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,240
this property

1403
00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:22,520
uh is is not weighing on this decision.

1404
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,080
Um that's something for the attorneys to

1405
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,960
to sort out. Um the county does not

1406
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,040
enforce uh

1407
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,920
uh HOA covenants, as you're well aware.

1408
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,160
Um but the the fact of the matter is

1409
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,760
that the property is zoned R1

1410
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,760
and was originally

1411
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,640
included in the subdivision the proposed

1412
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,800
subdivision of the property. The fact

1413
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,240
that the property was not developed as

1414
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,960
such does not

1415
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,080
uh exclude it from that in my in my

1416
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,080
view.

1417
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,960
Um the access is solely through the

1418
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,280
subdivision,

1419
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,200
which uh additionally makes it uh

1420
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,800
inappropriate, and for those reasons, uh

1421
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,120
my recommendation would be for a denial.

1422
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,230
>> Thank you.

1423
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:06,240
» Thank you.

1424
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:11,440
I have a motion. Do I have a second?

1425
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,560
no second.

1426
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,520
So, I am going to make a motion

1427
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,920
that

1428
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,670
with the conditions

1429
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,440
four sheep, four goats, 12 chickens,

1430
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,280
no more than that ever.

1431
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,520
Okay?

1432
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,480
Also, uh there was some considerate

1433
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,200
there's concern brought up about a cell

1434
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,400
tower.

1435
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,120
Uh, that would have to come before us

1436
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,520
before it was approved. There was

1437
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,160
something else, another modified use

1438
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,480
that you were concerned about would come

1439
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,040
before us. Anything that might would

1440
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,680
modify this property would have to come

1441
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,520
back before us before anything can

1442
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,920
happen other than what's being asked for

1443
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,160
tonight.

1444
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,760
Um, so with the conditions of that

1445
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,440
limited amount of animals and again

1446
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,960
being appreciative of the fact that's

1447
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,320
been brought forth that we have no

1448
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,040
governance over any covenants, I am

1449
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,520
going to make a motion for approval of

1450
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,240
this request and I will ask for a

1451
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:12,510
second.

1452
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,120
» Second.

1453
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,270
>> I have a second. All in favor with your

1454
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:15,280
» I have a second. All in favor with your

1455
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,720
right hand and the second, raise your

1456
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:21,240
hand and say I. I. It's three and two

1457
00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:23,920
that did not support the motion.

1458
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,680
You got all that, Ms. Tracy?

1459
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,360
Thank you.

1460
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,800
All right, we're moving on with our

1461
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:36,510
agenda for the evening.

1462
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,840
Yeah, I'm I'm going to take just a

1463
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,240
minute and let this group that's here

1464
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:42,040
for this case uh head on out and then we

1465
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,680
will

1466
00:56:43,680 --> 00:58:08,190
start back up.

1467
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,680
» I'm going to wait on Mr. Banks to take a

1468
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:10,960
seat and then we're going to move on

1469
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,200
with tonight's agenda.

1470
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,430
>> It's what you get for having an old man

1471
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:13,440
» It's what you get for having an old man

1472
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:13,920
on the board.

1473
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,470
>> I know. I'm going to forgive you and

1474
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:16,480
» I know. I'm going to forgive you and

1475
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,560
you're not an old man.

1476
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,680
Next on our agenda is new business and

1477
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,560
we have LU260188

1478
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,720
and Z260187

1479
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,960
land use change from rural residential

1480
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,160
agricultural to from

1481
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,760
rural residential and agricultural to

1482
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,120
suburban and rezone 5.99 acres from A1

1483
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,360
to R1 to create a five-lot residential

1484
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,800
subdivision. Applicant owner is Mark

1485
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,840
Sanchez Properties located on Lochland

1486
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,480
Road is the applicant present?

1487
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,640
If you would please step up to the mic,

1488
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,960
state your name, address, tell us what

1489
00:58:50,960 --> 00:59:02,150
your plans are.

1490
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,720
» Yes. Um

1491
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,960
my name is Mark Sanchez. I live at 313

1492
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,600
Milledge.

1493
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,720
Um

1494
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,760
I'm asking to uh this evening uh for my

1495
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,400
property. It's uh 5.99 acres on Lochland

1496
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,640
Road

1497
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,160
uh to be rezoned uh to R1.

1498
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:28,960
Um currently it is raw undeveloped land.

1499
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,160
Uh the purpose of the rezone is to

1500
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,240
rezone the property from A1 to R1 to

1501
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,440
permit development of a five-lot

1502
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,160
single-family

1503
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,120
residential subdivision consisting of

1504
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,080
approximately one-acre home site.

1505
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,560
Uh the proposed development is designed

1506
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,240
to be compatible with the surrounding

1507
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,720
residential character

1508
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,720
while utilizing planned public water

1509
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:58,870
service and individual septic systems.

1510
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,120
Um

1511
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,480
so

1512
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,080
with that, uh about 500 ft from my

1513
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,640
property tract now,

1514
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,000
uh water has been installed. Uh Bright

1515
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,600
Homes, I believe, owns 24 lots, one-acre

1516
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:15,840
lots.

1517
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,760
Uh it's demarked to the left of their

1518
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,080
property.

1519
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,440
Uh my plan would be to bring that

1520
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,440
uh water line down to my tract.

1521
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,200
Uh and then I would install it in the in

1522
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,160
the subdivision.

1523
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,320
Um

1524
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,120
and then I have a proposed road

1525
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:41,030
uh with a cul-de-sac at the end as well.

1526
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,600
And I have had this land surveyed.

1527
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,720
The picture up on the monitor is

1528
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,280
that that you see.

1529
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,870
And

1530
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,480
what else? Um the name of the

1531
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,160
subdivision would be termed Lochlinburg.

1532
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,880
Um be it that it's on Lochlin Road.

1533
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,520
And

1534
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,360
um

1535
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,560
the type of homes that would be going on

1536
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,320
this would be matching the surrounding

1537
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,760
area.

1538
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,000
Uh done my homework there, so um about

1539
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,000
850,000 to 1.1

1540
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,960
uh would be what I would propose to to

1541
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,920
build uh and sell for.

1542
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,510
Um

1543
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,480
I believe that is all I have to say. So,

1544
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,040
if I'd open up for questions.

1545
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,430
>> Thank you. Any questions for the

1546
01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:33,440
» Thank you. Any questions for the

1547
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:34,680
applicant?

1548
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,950
>> Mr. Sanchez, [clears throat] this land

1549
01:01:35,950 --> 01:01:35,960
» Mr. Sanchez, [clears throat] this land

1550
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,880
to the west is the new subdivision that

1551
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:38,600
just went in.

1552
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:39,150
>> Yes, sir.

1553
01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:39,160
» Yes, sir.

1554
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,670
>> You would butt up to those lots.

1555
01:01:40,670 --> 01:01:40,680
» You would butt up to those lots.

1556
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,310
>> That's correct.

1557
01:01:41,310 --> 01:01:41,320
» That's correct.

1558
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:42,070
>> That's what

1559
01:01:42,070 --> 01:01:42,080
» That's what

1560
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,600
And those lots are Are they one acre?

1561
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:45,150
>> They are.

1562
01:01:45,150 --> 01:01:45,160
» They are.

1563
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,670
>> Okay.

1564
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,120
Is there Is there a pond on your

1565
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,240
property?

1566
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,470
>> There is no no pond. No no stream. Um

1567
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:56,480
» There is no no pond. No no stream. Um

1568
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:56,960
it's

1569
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,710
>> How about a retention pond?

1570
01:01:58,710 --> 01:01:58,720
» How about a retention pond?

1571
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,440
The area

1572
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,590
>> That will have to be Yes, yes. That will

1573
01:02:01,590 --> 01:02:01,600
» That will have to be Yes, yes. That will

1574
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,000
have to be figured out and I haven't got

1575
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,670
>> But it's not on your plat. It's not on

1576
01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:04,680
» But it's not on your plat. It's not on

1577
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,800
what you're proposing.

1578
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:07,950
>> Uh

1579
01:02:07,950 --> 01:02:07,960
» Uh

1580
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,640
this is just uh a survey that was done

1581
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,360
and a and a mock-up of what that would

1582
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,960
look like, but a retention pond would

1583
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,240
need to be uh figured out in a civil

1584
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,200
uh drawing. So, I just haven't haven't

1585
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,480
gotten that far yet.

1586
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,990
>> Okay.

1587
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,950
Um

1588
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,960
I don't really as much have a

1589
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:35,150
question just as a comment. So,

1590
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,520
I look at a lot of subdivision plats.

1591
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:38,840
I'm going to look at a couple tonight

1592
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,320
later on. And you you have got a ton of

1593
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,840
frontage just to pick up one lot.

1594
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,480
Um you got

1595
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,960
five lots and street that when you're

1596
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,640
complete it's going to be donated to the

1597
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,520
county.

1598
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,280
And then the county is going to have to

1599
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,480
figure out how to maintain what's within

1600
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,040
this neighborhood

1601
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,920
off of just five lots.

1602
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,480
Um

1603
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,640
it just seems like

1604
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,120
it seems like trying to push this and

1605
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,800
once you get retention on there, I think

1606
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,080
you're probably going to lose a lot. So,

1607
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,160
then you're going to be down to four.

1608
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,320
Um

1609
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,760
how

1610
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,760
the burden that's going to be placed on

1611
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,480
those homeowners

1612
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,840
for just the taxes to maintain

1613
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,000
their particular street. I

1614
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,880
I just seems

1615
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,520
seems

1616
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,160
hard to make the economics. That's just

1617
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,640
thought I'm having as I'm looking at it.

1618
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,280
Any other questions?

1619
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,670
>> And public works noted a diesel lane as

1620
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:37,680
» And public works noted a diesel lane as

1621
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,800
well.

1622
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,510
>> Yeah, she's stating that public works

1623
01:03:40,510 --> 01:03:40,520
» Yeah, she's stating that public works

1624
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,960
has indicated that there would need to

1625
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,360
be a diesel lane which is going to

1626
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,320
encroach on your first lot on the right

1627
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:46,920
coming in.

1628
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,670
>> Okay.

1629
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:47,680
» Okay.

1630
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,390
>> Any other questions?

1631
01:03:49,390 --> 01:03:49,400
» Any other questions?

1632
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,430
>> I believe the price range you were

1633
01:03:51,430 --> 01:03:51,440
» I believe the price range you were

1634
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,200
talking about the other the nearby

1635
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,080
homes is on larger tracts though,

1636
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,040
correct?

1637
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,390
>> They are. They are on larger tracts, but

1638
01:04:00,390 --> 01:04:00,400
» They are. They are on larger tracts, but

1639
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,680
I with the resources that I was putting

1640
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:03,960
in there,

1641
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,920
I was going to do curb and gutter

1642
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,520
on there as well.

1643
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,960
And I was going to make it a five home

1644
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,960
site enclave there.

1645
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,080
Uh,

1646
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,440
and

1647
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,880
uh, have the home prices be higher to

1648
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,400
account for what you're talking about. I

1649
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,040
did not know that I needed a diesel

1650
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,440
lane,

1651
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,720
so that's new to me.

1652
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,400
I was hoping is is that going to be a

1653
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,240
fact? That's I'm going

1654
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,950
>> It was noted

1655
01:04:31,950 --> 01:04:31,960
» It was noted

1656
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,480
It's noted to us by

1657
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,560
the public public works Walton County

1658
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,720
public works reviewed your request and

1659
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,320
then they noted back to us that that

1660
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,480
would be something that they would

1661
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:42,440
require.

1662
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,150
>> Okay.

1663
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,920
» And they also noted verifying site

1664
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,760
distance with the entrance location.

1665
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,830
>> I I I had called in and asked about a

1666
01:04:53,830 --> 01:04:53,840
» I I I had called in and asked about a

1667
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,680
diesel lane, so I guess I misunderstood

1668
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,400
because I didn't think I needed that for

1669
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,720
uh, my particular project, but they're

1670
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,400
saying that that is needed.

1671
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:07,950
>> Yes.

1672
01:05:07,950 --> 01:05:07,960
» Yes.

1673
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,710
>> Okay.

1674
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:15,110
» Any additional questions?

1675
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,240
Thank you.

1676
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,040
We're good, sir. If I need you, I'll get

1677
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,440
you back. Is anyone here in opposition

1678
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,990
to this?

1679
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,960
No one in opposition?

1680
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,310
Sir, are you raising your hand?

1681
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,040
Well, I think

1682
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,520
if you could step up and put that into

1683
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,280
public record, we'd appreciate it. And

1684
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,640
we'll get that answer for you in his

1685
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:37,880
rebuttal.

1686
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,160
That's the best way for me to handle

1687
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,480
business. That way everybody that's

1688
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,880
watching on Facebook gets to see you,

1689
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,280
too.

1690
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,200
If you'd had on a Georgia Tech shirt,

1691
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,520
I'd have told you to just stay back

1692
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,720
there.

1693
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,840
Uh-oh, I done made somebody mad up here

1694
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,790
on the board.

1695
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,320
» I'm Doug Fisher. I'm at 1141 Lockland.

1696
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,560
Uh the only question I really have is um

1697
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,320
the price sounds nice. How many square

1698
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,240
feet are these houses to offset

1699
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,200
the fact that it's on 1 acre versus, you

1700
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,080
know, most of most of it's two or two,

1701
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,040
five or six.

1702
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,030
>> Thank you, sir. Yes, sir. We'll get an

1703
01:06:14,030 --> 01:06:14,040
» Thank you, sir. Yes, sir. We'll get an

1704
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,280
answer for you. Anyone else in

1705
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,920
opposition?

1706
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,440
All right. If you would If you would

1707
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:20,960
come back up and just address that in

1708
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:32,990
your rebuttal.

1709
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,520
» Yes, sir. So, um that would be

1710
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,520
anywhere between 3,200 and 3,800

1711
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:41,200
square feet.

1712
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,750
>> Okay.

1713
01:06:42,750 --> 01:06:42,760
» Okay.

1714
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,040
Any other questions while the

1715
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,480
applicant's here?

1716
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,350
Thank you, sir.

1717
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,200
Is anyone here to speak on behalf of the

1718
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,600
applicant as a proponent?

1719
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,280
If not, I will bring it back to the

1720
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:01,630
board for a motion.

1721
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,640
» In lieu of the uh

1722
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,440
concerns that came up and the

1723
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,200
appropriateness for this area, I make a

1724
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,120
motion to deny.

1725
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,550
>> I have a motion for denial. Do I have a

1726
01:07:11,550 --> 01:07:11,560
» I have a motion for denial. Do I have a

1727
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,000
second?

1728
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:14,710
>> Second.

1729
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:14,720
» Second.

1730
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,110
>> I have a second. All in favor, raise

1731
01:07:16,110 --> 01:07:16,120
» I have a second. All in favor, raise

1732
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,200
your right hand and say I.

1733
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:18,470
>> I.

1734
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:18,480
» I.

1735
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,670
>> I.

1736
01:07:20,670 --> 01:07:20,680
» I.

1737
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,120
Any opposed?

1738
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:22,870
>> I.

1739
01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:22,880
» I.

1740
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,390
>> One opposed.

1741
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:24,400
» One opposed.

1742
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:31,070
Two opposed.

1743
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,000
All righty. And this will go to the

1744
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,400
Board of Commissioners uh next month,

1745
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,670
okay?

1746
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,280
Tracy, you got the vote.

1747
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:48,990
Thank you.

1748
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,440
Next on the agenda for this evening is

1749
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,800
Z260189

1750
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,920
to rezone 5.70 acres from A1, B3, M1, M2

1751
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,840
to M2, B3 for a motor vehicle sales,

1752
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,320
auto repair, maintenance, salvage yard,

1753
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,720
warehouse and outdoor storage, and

1754
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,160
variance on setback buffers to eliminate

1755
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,320
the 10-ft landscape strip along Highway

1756
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,280
11. The applicant is Reyes Autos and

1757
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,799
Trucks LLC. Property is located at 2412

1758
01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:22,560
Highway 11 is the applicant here. If you

1759
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,480
would please step up to the podium, give

1760
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:26,160
us your name, and tell us what your

1761
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,920
plans are.

1762
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,839
And your address as well, please. Name,

1763
01:08:30,839 --> 01:08:33,120
address, and tell us what your plans are

1764
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:51,030
for the property.

1765
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,520
» Good evening, uh

1766
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,200
Mr. Chairman and member of Planning

1767
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,000
Commission. My name is Esa Khan.

1768
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,920
Yeah, EK Engineering Consultant, the

1769
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,720
applicant for this case is located at

1770
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,880
555 North Point Center East, Alpharetta,

1771
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,040
Georgia. And I'm an engineer with EK

1772
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,640
Engineering Consultant and I'm here to

1773
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,040
present this application on behalf of

1774
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,480
the property owner. Uh the property

1775
01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:18,560
owner and the member of his team is with

1776
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,080
me and they will be happy to answer any

1777
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,720
question

1778
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,630
later.

1779
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,880
Uh as you can see on page 32

1780
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,640
the case number, the total site area is

1781
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,440
approximately 10.4

1782
01:09:36,440 --> 01:09:39,880
acres and is currently zoned A1, B3, and

1783
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,080
M2.

1784
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,319
Uh the property has historically been

1785
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:45,799
used for residential, vehicle storage,

1786
01:09:45,799 --> 01:09:48,480
and salvage-related activities.

1787
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:51,799
And the proposed uses include motor

1788
01:09:51,799 --> 01:09:54,320
vehicle sales, automotive repair and

1789
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,720
maintenance,

1790
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,280
salvage yard office, warehouse, and

1791
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,440
screened

1792
01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:02,280
outdoor storage.

1793
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:02,880
Uh

1794
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,880
this application proposed proposes to

1795
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,760
rezone approximately 5.7 acres by

1796
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:14,920
rezoning A1 zoned portions to B3 and M2.

1797
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,000
And approximately 1.13 acres of the

1798
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,920
existing M2 zoning to B3.

1799
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,640
Uh this proposed zone rezoning is

1800
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,840
consistent with Walton County

1801
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,760
2022 future land use map. Uh the

1802
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,200
application also will include some

1803
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,680
variances and transition buffer requests

1804
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,760
that we will discuss.

1805
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,240
Now,

1806
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,240
if you look at the page number

1807
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,640
34

1808
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:45,640
uh

1809
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,920
the the top figure shows the surrounding

1810
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,000
uh

1811
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,600
the surrounding zoning, which is

1812
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,800
uh the surrounding area contain both

1813
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,320
residential and commercial uses.

1814
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,280
The adjacent property to the north, uh

1815
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,520
the south and west are preliminary zone

1816
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,040
A1,

1817
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,120
uh which are single-family residential,

1818
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,720
and

1819
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,360
the properties across Highway 11 include

1820
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,720
both commercial, B2, and A2 zoned

1821
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,000
properties.

1822
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,120
Below that same page 34, the future land

1823
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,920
use map for this property is highway

1824
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,120
corridor character area, and the

1825
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,240
proposed B3 and M2 M2 zoning is

1826
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,000
consistent with this designation.

1827
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:45,230
On the next page,

1828
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,840
the current zoning

1829
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,680
The current zoning is, I discussed

1830
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:54,320
before, we have A1, M2, and B3 zoned

1831
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:58,400
area. The the total A1 zoned portion

1832
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,640
are proposed to be zoned to B3 and M2,

1833
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,800
while approximately 1.13 acres existing

1834
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,560
M2 is proposed to be zoned to B3.

1835
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:20,480
And the proposed, as you can see on this

1836
01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:25,360
uh page here, the proposed B3 zoned wide

1837
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,360
a 200-ft uh

1838
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,520
wide

1839
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,440
frontage along the Highway 11, while the

1840
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:34,240
remaining area is proposed to be zoned

1841
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,840
M2, as you can see in this figure on the

1842
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,120
screen.

1843
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,310
Uh

1844
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,000
This proposed zoning creates a logical

1845
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,800
and unified development pattern that is

1846
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,640
consistent with his with the highway

1847
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,800
corridor future land use designation.

1848
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,680
Also, the proposed, If you look at this

1849
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,240
proposed development layout including

1850
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,800
the general arrangement of building,

1851
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,680
access,

1852
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,480
parking, and

1853
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:05,880
internal circulation and other required

1854
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:14,710
site improvements.

1855
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:18,160
Some existing residential driveway along

1856
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,480
Highway 11 are proposed to be removed

1857
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:23,320
while the remaining driveway access

1858
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,920
point are proposed to be modified.

1859
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,920
Any proposed modification to the

1860
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,320
existing highway access point will be

1861
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,120
subjected to GDOT approval review and

1862
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,160
approval through the applicable

1863
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,470
permitting process.

1864
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:40,960
As I mentioned, there are some variances

1865
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,800
and and transition buffer modification

1866
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,320
variances. The first one,

1867
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,470
if you look at

1868
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:54,040
this s-

1869
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,400
um page on the top is the

1870
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,120
b- uh the B3 on the north side and also

1871
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,320
on the south side, the transition buffer

1872
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:09,440
variance for 0 ft uh because of the this

1873
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:11,880
was an access easement before and there

1874
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,120
is a current existing building that is

1875
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,640
in this area.

1876
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,080
Uh so, we are requesting for the

1877
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,600
improvement

1878
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,720
on the site and also due to the existing

1879
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,240
building a 0-ft buffer. Also, on the

1880
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,680
south side, we are requesting for this

1881
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,400
B3 area only a 0-ft buffer because there

1882
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:35,120
is an existing um pond in this area.

1883
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,350
>> An existing what?

1884
01:14:36,350 --> 01:14:36,360
» An existing what?

1885
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,270
>> A pond, retention pond.

1886
01:14:38,270 --> 01:14:38,280
» A pond, retention pond.

1887
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,590
>> Okay.

1888
01:14:40,590 --> 01:14:40,600
» Okay.

1889
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,110
>> So, those are the two reason we are sp-

1890
01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:43,120
» So, those are the two reason we are sp-

1891
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,560
we are we are requesting the 0-ft

1892
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,200
transition buffer.

1893
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,160
Also, on M2

1894
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,720
zoning, we are asking for design

1895
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,760
modification and requesting a 25-ft

1896
01:14:54,760 --> 01:15:00,670
transition buffer with screened fence.

1897
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:01,840
On the

1898
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,640
on the

1899
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,480
for the for the two existing properties

1900
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:07,720
that is renovated that is supposed to be

1901
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,080
renovated,

1902
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,280
uh one those properties are not

1903
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,760
satisfying the 60-ft front buffer

1904
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,720
require front setback requirement and we

1905
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,880
are we are requesting

1906
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:19,600
uh

1907
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,280
a variance for the two existing

1908
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,440
properties for that front setbacks.

1909
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:29,840
Also, we are requesting uh to the extent

1910
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,920
possible a 10-ft landscape strip

1911
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,760
variance along Highway 11 because of the

1912
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,960
existing property condition, because of

1913
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,920
the existing pond, and uh

1914
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,880
um and to accommodate the

1915
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,240
parking in this area.

1916
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:46,640
With that, uh

1917
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,640
to summarize, this application eliminate

1918
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,160
the existing split zoning configuration,

1919
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:57,000
uh creates a unified B3 and M2 M2 zoning

1920
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,160
pattern,

1921
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,240
and is consistent with the Walton County

1922
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,880
future land use map, and it creates a

1923
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,200
unified zoning pattern that support the

1924
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,880
coordinated future development. Also, it

1925
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,840
supports the continuous investment and

1926
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:12,880
economic activity along the highway

1927
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,640
corridor. Uh with this, we respectfully

1928
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,120
request uh your recommendation to

1929
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,520
approve the proposed rezoning together

1930
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,000
with associated variances and tran-

1931
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,520
transition buffer modification. Thank

1932
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,800
you, and we will be happy to answer any

1933
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,160
question from the commission or the

1934
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:36,510
crowd. Thank you.

1935
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:37,520
» All right, thank you so much. I

1936
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,440
appreciate that. Uh on the

1937
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:42,560
shot that's up on the screen, the

1938
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,400
portion in the back where those parcels

1939
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,840
or portion of the parcel is shown as M2,

1940
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,560
what is the proposed use there?

1941
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,120
Everything around the front on the

1942
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,600
highway and then where the warehouses

1943
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,960
are, um we we have a definition as what

1944
01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,880
that's being proposed a proposed use

1945
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:02,200
for, but within that large area in the

1946
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,400
back, what is that proposed for?

1947
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,830
>> Those will be a screen storage area.

1948
01:17:06,830 --> 01:17:06,840
» Those will be a screen storage area.

1949
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,470
>> A screen storage area.

1950
01:17:09,470 --> 01:17:09,480
» A screen storage area.

1951
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,840
And what's going to be stored there?

1952
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,790
>> Those will be salvage vehicle.

1953
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:14,800
» Those will be salvage vehicle.

1954
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,030
>> What type of vehicle?

1955
01:17:16,030 --> 01:17:16,040
» What type of vehicle?

1956
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:16,790
>> Salvage.

1957
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:16,800
» Salvage.

1958
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,070
>> Salvage vehicles.

1959
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:18,080
» Salvage vehicles.

1960
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,510
>> Salvage vehicles.

1961
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,640
» Yeah.

1962
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,560
So, we're talking about inoperable

1963
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:26,560
vehicles.

1964
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,310
>> That's correct.

1965
01:17:27,310 --> 01:17:27,320
» That's correct.

1966
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:28,950
>> Wrecked, whatever. Okay.

1967
01:17:28,950 --> 01:17:28,960
» Wrecked, whatever. Okay.

1968
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:34,670
>> Yes.

1969
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,120
» Um

1970
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,160
you obviously have not yet

1971
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,720
saw G. Good luck, but you haven't saw

1972
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,360
them yet. So, you don't know if they're

1973
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,840
going to give you these two entrances.

1974
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,550
>> So, there are currently three on our

1975
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:48,560
» So, there are currently three on our

1976
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,000
preliminary conversation with them.

1977
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,280
The middle one is going to be

1978
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,040
avoided or eliminated. This what the

1979
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,120
initial communication with G.

1980
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,960
But, they're asking for more information

1981
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:01,720
and

1982
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,350
>> So, are you are you seeking two entry

1983
01:18:03,350 --> 01:18:03,360
» So, are you are you seeking two entry

1984
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:04,200
points?

1985
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,030
>> Two entry points.

1986
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:05,040
» Two entry points.

1987
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:05,990
>> Okay.

1988
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:06,000
» Okay.

1989
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,640
But, but as right now, you don't know if

1990
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,320
they're going to confine you to one with

1991
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:10,640
interior

1992
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,480
uh access or if they're going to give

1993
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:14,760
you the two. You That has not been made

1994
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:15,960
yet, that's termination. Is that

1995
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:16,560
correct?

1996
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,470
>> is not made and

1997
01:18:17,470 --> 01:18:17,480
» is not made and

1998
01:18:17,480 --> 01:18:17,910
>> Okay.

1999
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:17,920
» Okay.

2000
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,870
>> Yes, that's not a part of the rezoning

2001
01:18:19,870 --> 01:18:19,880
» Yes, that's not a part of the rezoning

2002
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:20,920
we we we

2003
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,470
>> Right. And then you're indicating an

2004
01:18:23,470 --> 01:18:23,480
» Right. And then you're indicating an

2005
01:18:23,480 --> 01:18:26,440
existing building which was I think for

2006
01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:28,200
tire repair.

2007
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:28,550
>> That's correct.

2008
01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:28,560
» That's correct.

2009
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,390
>> Yes, on the north

2010
01:18:29,390 --> 01:18:29,400
» Yes, on the north

2011
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,910
>> That existing building and it will be

2012
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:31,920
» That existing building and it will be

2013
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,280
proposed to be used for that in the

2014
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,200
future as well. Is that true?

2015
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:35,990
>> That's true.

2016
01:18:35,990 --> 01:18:36,000
» That's true.

2017
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,470
>> Okay, so you got the tire repair, then

2018
01:18:38,470 --> 01:18:38,480
» Okay, so you got the tire repair, then

2019
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:40,880
you've got the car dealership, and then

2020
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,280
as you continue south, you got the auto

2021
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:44,520
repair.

2022
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,680
Um the request says major and minor auto

2023
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,520
repair. Uh will these be

2024
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,120
um

2025
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,000
like

2026
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,560
just typical vehicles or large trucks? I

2027
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,040
mean, can you tell me the breakdown of

2028
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:00,160
what you plan to work on?

2029
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,670
>> Yeah, they're typical vehicles. What

2030
01:19:01,670 --> 01:19:01,680
» Yeah, they're typical vehicles. What

2031
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,320
they're going to be used for is taking

2032
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,160
the salvage cars and

2033
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,430
>> Sir, come come to the microphone,

2034
01:19:06,430 --> 01:19:06,440
» Sir, come come to the microphone,

2035
01:19:06,440 --> 01:19:07,800
please.

2036
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,190
>> Yeah, yes, they're going to be typical

2037
01:19:09,190 --> 01:19:09,200
» Yeah, yes, they're going to be typical

2038
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:10,480
vehicles. What they're going to be used

2039
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:12,480
for is taking apart the uh the the parts

2040
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:14,600
that are good from the salvage vehicles,

2041
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,240
and they're going to be using using

2042
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,280
those and storing those, and then

2043
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,360
using the uh those cars and storing them

2044
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,120
in the back side of the M2.

2045
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,230
>> Okay.

2046
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:27,600
» Do you You're [clears throat] also

2047
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:33,830
running a wrecker service?

2048
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,040
» Yes. Yes, sir.

2049
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,830
>> And that'd be a 24-hour

2050
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:37,840
» And that'd be a 24-hour

2051
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,830
on-call?

2052
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,400
» No, it's going to be our regular hours.

2053
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,040
No, not 24 hours, no.

2054
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,790
>> It'll only be working hours.

2055
01:19:47,790 --> 01:19:47,800
» It'll only be working hours.

2056
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:52,110
>> For the Yes, sir, only working hours.

2057
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,680
» One question I have, uh the

2058
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,480
area that is now A1 in the back, and it

2059
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:01,200
will be M2, and you said it's going to

2060
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,400
be used for storage of

2061
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:05,960
salvage vehicles.

2062
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,590
>> Yes.

2063
01:20:06,590 --> 01:20:06,600
» Yes.

2064
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,910
>> property already been cleared, and are

2065
01:20:08,910 --> 01:20:08,920
» property already been cleared, and are

2066
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,920
there storage vehicle salvage vehicles

2067
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,510
already on the property?

2068
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,000
» Um the north side on the A1 on the north

2069
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,400
side, there is.

2070
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,640
And it has been cleared, yes, sir.

2071
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:20,590
>> It has been cleared.

2072
01:20:20,590 --> 01:20:20,600
» It has been cleared.

2073
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:21,150
>> Yes, sir.

2074
01:20:21,150 --> 01:20:21,160
» Yes, sir.

2075
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,310
>> Okay.

2076
01:20:23,310 --> 01:20:23,320
» Okay.

2077
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,000
Christie,

2078
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,640
um is there any past history with code

2079
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,880
here?

2080
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,350
>> There is, yes.

2081
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:31,360
» There is, yes.

2082
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,070
>> Recent?

2083
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:32,080
» Recent?

2084
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,710
>> Um it is under Well, it was this was

2085
01:20:34,710 --> 01:20:34,720
» Um it is under Well, it was this was

2086
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,840
what brought um

2087
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,880
A portion of it's already being used as

2088
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,720
a salvage yard for Mr. Harville. Um

2089
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:45,920
and he went went in and did some

2090
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,760
additional clearing out and uh code

2091
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,240
enforcement had stopped him. So, this is

2092
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,440
a result of code enforcement um to get a

2093
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:55,920
better understanding of what they're

2094
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,960
doing out there, what they want to do,

2095
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,480
and get everything in compliance.

2096
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:02,470
>> Okay.

2097
01:21:02,470 --> 01:21:02,480
» Okay.

2098
01:21:02,480 --> 01:21:04,390
>> And add the two

2099
01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:04,400
» And add the two

2100
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,640
um on the northern side, the two back

2101
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,280
lots that are currently A1

2102
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:14,566
and the south part of the A1 property um

2103
01:21:14,566 --> 01:21:14,830
>> [clears throat]

2104
01:21:14,830 --> 01:21:14,840
» [clears throat]

2105
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,910
>> that they have acquired to rezone those

2106
01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:17,920
» that they have acquired to rezone those

2107
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,600
to appropriate zonings.

2108
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,550
>> Okay.

2109
01:21:21,550 --> 01:21:21,560
» Okay.

2110
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,800
And on that portion warehouse office,

2111
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,680
that's mini storage warehouses I would

2112
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,600
expect that you have there. Is that what

2113
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,000
you've got?

2114
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,910
>> There is an existing building and

2115
01:21:30,910 --> 01:21:30,920
» There is an existing building and

2116
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,240
they're going to renovate it to the

2117
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:34,270
>> to mini storage.

2118
01:21:34,270 --> 01:21:34,280
» to mini storage.

2119
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:34,670
>> Yes.

2120
01:21:34,670 --> 01:21:34,680
» Yes.

2121
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:35,270
>> Okay.

2122
01:21:35,270 --> 01:21:35,280
» Okay.

2123
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:35,550
>> Yes.

2124
01:21:35,550 --> 01:21:35,560
» Yes.

2125
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,550
>> And the office space that's designated

2126
01:21:37,550 --> 01:21:37,560
» And the office space that's designated

2127
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,640
would be for the mini office spaces.

2128
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,510
>> That will be for the purpose of the

2129
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:41,520
» That will be for the purpose of the

2130
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,160
salvage yard office.

2131
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,750
>> So, the office would be So, it would

2132
01:21:44,750 --> 01:21:44,760
» So, the office would be So, it would

2133
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,280
have nothing to do with the storage

2134
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,760
warehouses. It would only be for the

2135
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:48,840
salvage portion.

2136
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,630
>> For the salvage portion of the

2137
01:21:50,630 --> 01:21:50,640
» For the salvage portion of the

2138
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:51,150
>> Okay.

2139
01:21:51,150 --> 01:21:51,160
» Okay.

2140
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,910
>> Yes.

2141
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,160
» Any additional questions?

2142
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:58,240
Thank you all. Appreciate it.

2143
01:21:58,240 --> 01:21:59,310
>> Thank you.

2144
01:21:59,310 --> 01:21:59,320
» Thank you.

2145
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,230
>> Is anyone here in opposition to this

2146
01:22:01,230 --> 01:22:01,240
» Is anyone here in opposition to this

2147
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,550
request?

2148
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:20,790
Nobody in opposition.

2149
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,120
Um

2150
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,160
So, I'm going to bring this back uh

2151
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,400
to the board for a motion.

2152
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,920
Any Any additional comments from any of

2153
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,360
the board members?

2154
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,280
Anything we need to talk over?

2155
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:36,080
So

2156
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,710
>> want I just like clarification from

2157
01:22:38,710 --> 01:22:38,720
» want I just like clarification from

2158
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,400
staff that

2159
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,400
a large portion of this property is

2160
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,680
already re-zoned to M2 and the salvage

2161
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,720
yard was approved at that time, right?

2162
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:48,790
>> That is correct.

2163
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:48,800
» That is correct.

2164
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:48,990
>> Okay.

2165
01:22:48,990 --> 01:22:49,000
» Okay.

2166
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,270
>> Um this The salvage yard kind of

2167
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:51,280
» Um this The salvage yard kind of

2168
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,560
pre-dates the ordinance. Um Mr. Harwood

2169
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,240
did come in

2170
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,840
um and bring that into compliance over

2171
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,240
time.

2172
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,120
Um and then this is just to get the rest

2173
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,720
of the property

2174
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,440
that has potentially already been used

2175
01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:10,200
for this use into compliance. And then

2176
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,520
what hasn't been used in the back has

2177
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,960
not been used in the back in compliance

2178
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,440
with zoning so that it could be further

2179
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:18,360
used.

2180
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:19,150
>> Thank you.

2181
01:23:19,150 --> 01:23:19,160
» Thank you.

2182
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,510
>> Okay. So that clarifies that part of the

2183
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:21,520
» Okay. So that clarifies that part of the

2184
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,520
property being asked for salvage has

2185
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,480
been

2186
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:27,960
currently is being used and has

2187
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,320
previously been approved. Thank you,

2188
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,480
Josh. Thanks for bringing that up.

2189
01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:35,040
Um one of the things I wanted to mention

2190
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,800
is I certainly understand

2191
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,760
that you guys asking for

2192
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:41,920
um

2193
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,840
the landscape strip up front that to be

2194
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,520
removed.

2195
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,640
I can appreciate that because I don't

2196
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,800
think there's a auto dealership that

2197
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,200
I've ever been by that didn't park the

2198
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,120
cars right out on the road.

2199
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,880
However, you have a tire repair

2200
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,680
and auto repair.

2201
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,120
So

2202
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:01,520
um

2203
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,000
I I don't want to give the same weight

2204
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,600
to those structures that I give to

2205
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,040
when you need visibility. There's

2206
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:09,600
certain things you need visibility for

2207
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:10,840
and there's things that you don't as a

2208
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,320
business owner is what I'm trying to

2209
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,880
say. And I realize what those are

2210
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,080
um

2211
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,080
and at the same time I think that

2212
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,160
there's a purpose for for that uh

2213
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,200
land-

2214
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,120
strip to be there. So,

2215
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,120
kind of want to shed light on both of

2216
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,080
those

2217
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,160
uh

2218
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,880
in a reply. And also on the south side

2219
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,880
of the property, the comment was made in

2220
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,080
the request for the reduction to zero

2221
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,840
buffer in that there's an existing

2222
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,600
retention pond.

2223
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,120
Christie, would it be fair for me to say

2224
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,520
that

2225
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,760
with the addition of these other tracks

2226
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,200
into a salvage yard situation and the

2227
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,720
development of potentially new

2228
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,000
structures on the front and to the side

2229
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,320
that the site plan and retention that's

2230
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,800
there now may not be adequate for

2231
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,080
future?

2232
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:03,840
Would that be

2233
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,310
>> That would be. And they would need to

2234
01:25:06,310 --> 01:25:06,320
» That would be. And they would need to

2235
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:10,080
submit that what they're adding

2236
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:11,760
that additional

2237
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:12,430
>> Okay.

2238
01:25:12,430 --> 01:25:12,440
» Okay.

2239
01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:14,550
>> That pond would hold it.

2240
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:14,560
» That pond would hold it.

2241
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,390
>> The pond that's there now would hold any

2242
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:16,400
» The pond that's there now would hold any

2243
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:17,160
additional they add.

2244
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:18,710
>> They would have to prove that all of

2245
01:25:18,710 --> 01:25:18,720
» They would have to prove that all of

2246
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,280
this, if not, they would have to either

2247
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,560
increase it or provide additional.

2248
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:22,990
>> Yeah.

2249
01:25:22,990 --> 01:25:23,000
» Yeah.

2250
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:23,870
>> Yes.

2251
01:25:23,870 --> 01:25:23,880
» Yes.

2252
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:28,550
>> Um

2253
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,080
And where the tire repair existing tire

2254
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,640
repair is there, what what is the

2255
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:44,150
abutment of the adjoining property?

2256
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:45,720
Now, well, just what's the use and the

2257
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,560
zoning for the adjoining property on the

2258
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,640
side, which would be the north end of

2259
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:54,150
the frontage?

2260
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,720
» On the north is a an A1 piece of

2261
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:57,480
property.

2262
01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:00,750
>> Okay. So, the adjournment where there is

2263
01:26:00,750 --> 01:26:00,760
» Okay. So, the adjournment where there is

2264
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,640
an It's really hard to to read in that

2265
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,400
small print, but on that north end that

2266
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,120
that last building is an existing tire

2267
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,240
repair building according to the

2268
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:11,840
the applicant.

2269
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,680
There's also a request there for zero

2270
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:16,800
Um

2271
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,280
how about one of you guys step back up

2272
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:32,790
for just a second?

2273
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,560
So, my question is on the on the north

2274
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,280
end where the tire repair is, the

2275
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,800
adjoining property there is being

2276
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,920
indicated as an A1 property, is that

2277
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:42,880
correct?

2278
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:43,550
>> Yes.

2279
01:26:43,550 --> 01:26:43,560
» Yes.

2280
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,350
>> And you're asking for zero

2281
01:26:46,350 --> 01:26:46,360
» And you're asking for zero

2282
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,040
variance

2283
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,400
to a join an A1 property.

2284
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,400
So, you're wanting to take a B3 A1 with

2285
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,120
zero

2286
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,270
>> So, there was a there is an existing

2287
01:26:56,270 --> 01:26:56,280
» So, there was a there is an existing

2288
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,120
easement driveway

2289
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,600
easement for the A1

2290
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,840
properties on the back side.

2291
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:04,440
Uh,

2292
01:27:04,440 --> 01:27:07,760
and this is the back of the building.

2293
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,560
So, there will be no noise because of

2294
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:11,920
the existing masonry wall.

2295
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:15,360
And the front of the of the

2296
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,360
tire shop is the

2297
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,280
is to the word the driveway that we are

2298
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,840
showing. So, it's toward the south side.

2299
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,190
>> So, the entrance to the south side, the

2300
01:27:23,190 --> 01:27:23,200
» So, the entrance to the south side, the

2301
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,520
rear of the building faces the A1, and

2302
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,080
on the A1 property there is a drive that

2303
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,480
goes up directly behind there. It's an

2304
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:32,480
easement to a property in the rear.

2305
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:34,630
>> Right. So, we are removing that A1

2306
01:27:34,630 --> 01:27:34,640
» Right. So, we are removing that A1

2307
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,760
zoning, so it's going to be in in two

2308
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,680
now. So, there will be no need for that

2309
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,680
driveway access easement. So, we are

2310
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,280
removing that driveway on the north side

2311
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,720
and using that area because there will

2312
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,480
be a need for a septic system. So, we

2313
01:27:49,480 --> 01:27:51,760
may need to use that area for a septic

2314
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,680
system as well, but since this is the

2315
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,520
back of the property,

2316
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,800
um, the back of the building, it

2317
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,520
wouldn't create any

2318
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,640
noise because it's a masonry structure

2319
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,040
as well.

2320
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,070
>> Okay.

2321
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,160
Um,

2322
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,080
I think you're you're Thank y'all. I

2323
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,600
appreciate you answering that. You guys

2324
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,120
can have a seat. I think that

2325
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:18,230
the fact that uh

2326
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,560
the property has a current use

2327
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,360
um

2328
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,760
for salvage, storage.

2329
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,880
Um this would be a modification to make

2330
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,560
that a bit larger.

2331
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,120
Uh but also to add

2332
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,400
um

2333
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,120
some various

2334
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,720
other opportunities, I might say,

2335
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,160
uh to the area. It is certainly well

2336
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,640
within the character area map. Um I

2337
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:48,910
can't dispute that at all.

2338
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,440
But there are there's a few things just

2339
01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:53,760
for concern that I want to see

2340
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,240
um addressed. So, I'm going to make a

2341
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,320
motion of approval with the following

2342
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,600
conditions. On the south side of the

2343
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,240
property where the current retention is,

2344
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,240
any area

2345
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,320
being shown

2346
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,400
on what we have, Christie, and I'm

2347
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,000
referencing what's up there,

2348
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,960
that to me is in a color brown

2349
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,800
because the back portion says screened

2350
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,840
salvage.

2351
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,440
And so, therefore, there is a line that

2352
01:29:22,440 --> 01:29:24,360
circles around the warehouses and the

2353
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,400
office area that is not within the

2354
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,640
portion that would be deemed as screened

2355
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,240
salvage.

2356
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:32,560
So,

2357
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,360
anything from where where the retention

2358
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,000
pond does not intersect the adjoining

2359
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,160
property,

2360
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,600
anything from that point

2361
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,880
all the way back past the warehouses

2362
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,840
will be screened in the same manner as

2363
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,120
the salvage storage in the rear. That

2364
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:51,520
will be

2365
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,240
at a minimum of a six fence six foot

2366
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,720
uh opaque fence

2367
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,480
along that whole south boundary back to

2368
01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:03,960
what they've already indicated as

2369
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,280
screened storage. And the screened

2370
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,080
storage itself will also be a 6-ft 6-ft

2371
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,120
opaque fence.

2372
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,000
The portion on the north end where the

2373
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,960
tire it's indicated for tire repair

2374
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,880
that a zero variance is being requested

2375
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:21,520
understanding that's the rear of the

2376
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:22,800
building.

2377
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,160
Um we do have a an adjoining property

2378
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:29,840
there. Also would want the 6-ft opaque

2379
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,360
fence to go from the section showing as

2380
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,040
salvage storage uh screening all the way

2381
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,160
uh to that abutment up at Highway 11

2382
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:44,390
all behind that building.

2383
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:48,080
On the front of the property

2384
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,400
a portion being used and identified as a

2385
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,160
car dealership showing parking spaces

2386
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,600
out near the street

2387
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,920
that section and that section alone

2388
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:03,320
I will I'm recommending uh that the land

2389
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,720
strip landscape strip uh require

2390
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,720
requirement be removed for the part

2391
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:10,400
there where the car dealership is

2392
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,280
identified and only that portion.

2393
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,640
Any other portion fronting Highway 11

2394
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,480
for auto repair, tire repair the

2395
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:23,280
required landscape strip would have to

2396
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,760
be maintained as the code has

2397
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,720
identified.

2398
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,520
And that will be a completion of my

2399
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,880
recommendation uh

2400
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,600
with approval.

2401
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,320
Do I have a second?

2402
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:38,070
>> Second.

2403
01:31:38,070 --> 01:31:38,080
» Second.

2404
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,750
>> I have a second. All in favor raise your

2405
01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:39,760
» I have a second. All in favor raise your

2406
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,040
right hand and say I.

2407
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:41,550
>> I.

2408
01:31:41,550 --> 01:31:41,560
» I.

2409
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,470
>> I.

2410
01:31:43,470 --> 01:31:43,480
» I.

2411
01:31:43,480 --> 01:31:44,800
This will go to the Board of

2412
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:46,840
Commissioners next month.

2413
01:31:46,840 --> 01:32:15,910
Thank y'all.

2414
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,240
» Okay.

2415
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,040
Next on the agenda for this evening,

2416
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,360
Z260192.

2417
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,280
This is the rezone of 103.56 acres from

2418
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:29,600
A2 to R1OSC to create 57 residential

2419
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,240
lots. The applicant is Bald Pate General

2420
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,240
Contracting LLC. The owner is Grady

2421
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:38,040
Thompson Enterprises LLLP. Property is

2422
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:41,560
located on Nickelsville Road.

2423
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,040
And I believe this person I referenced

2424
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,960
earlier in the night with the blue dress

2425
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,520
on is going to step up and present this.

2426
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,280
So, come on up, give us your name, tell

2427
01:32:49,280 --> 01:33:06,550
us what the plans are here.

2428
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:07,560
» Right.

2429
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,360
Good evening. I'm Andrea Gray, 300 East

2430
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,360
Church Street, Monroe, Georgia. This

2431
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,160
evening, I'm representing Bald Pate

2432
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,200
General Contracting LLC and its request

2433
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,000
to rezone approximately 103 acres from

2434
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,960
A2 to R1OSC for a residential

2435
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,040
development called Bison Landing.

2436
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,080
The property is just east of Fanny

2437
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,680
Thompson Road and just west of Highway

2438
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,760
11 and has frontage on Nicholson

2439
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,710
Nickelsville Road.

2440
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,440
It is in the neighborhood residential

2441
01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:41,600
character area under the future land use

2442
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,480
plan, which does allow for the requested

2443
01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:48,550
zoning of R1OSC.

2444
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,520
Here's just the general stats of the

2445
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,880
project. It's 103.56

2446
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,480
acres. We're proposing 57 homes,

2447
01:33:56,480 --> 01:33:58,120
uh 49.32

2448
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,360
acres of open space. Significant open

2449
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,040
space on this property.

2450
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,480
Uh we're proposing to combine this with

2451
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:06,480
the Bison Landing development that was

2452
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:08,720
approved last year. And so when we

2453
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,000
combine those two together, they'll be

2454
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,160
together 221.75

2455
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,920
acres. It'll be a total of 149 homes and

2456
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,200
a total of 82 acres um of open space.

2457
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,480
When you average all of that together,

2458
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:26,840
it's about 1.5 acre um per home.

2459
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,480
Here's the site plan with some some

2460
01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:30,120
notes made here. The thing that stands

2461
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,680
out really from the site plan is all the

2462
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,120
dark green, which is the open space.

2463
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,880
Uh 49.3 acres. Um there's an amenity

2464
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,120
lake within that, and we'll have a

2465
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,400
pavilion and a walking trail um around

2466
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,440
that lake. Uh we've got landscape strips

2467
01:34:44,440 --> 01:34:47,040
uh where the frontage is on Nickelsville

2468
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:48,840
Road at the entrance and then at another

2469
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,720
spot where where we um

2470
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,240
um come back down to that road. We've

2471
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:55,400
got the 50-ft transitional buffers um

2472
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,200
around the property.

2473
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,000
And we've got at the top there you'll

2474
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,000
see that there's two connection points

2475
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,640
to the existing residential development,

2476
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:05,920
the R1OSC development to the north. So

2477
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:09,440
we will tie into that development.

2478
01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:11,560
And here's a depiction of the

2479
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,240
developments together. So once we tie

2480
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:14,800
in, um you'll see that we'll have an

2481
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,840
entrance off George Williams and then

2482
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:18,680
another entrance off Nickelsville Road.

2483
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,640
So we'll be able to flow traffic um

2484
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:25,590
through two areas um of the development.

2485
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,880
Um again, land use compatibility of the

2486
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,160
neighborhood residential um future land

2487
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,240
use designation accommodates this type

2488
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,720
of development. Um this is a fantastic

2489
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,040
location halfway between Monroe and

2490
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:39,320
Bethlehem. Um it's already getting

2491
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,760
popularity um and um

2492
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,720
the demand for housing here in Walton

2493
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,160
County. Um and again, the R1OSC I favor

2494
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,560
anyway because it allows the green space

2495
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,040
to be um

2496
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,400
contiguous together and then the lots to

2497
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,390
be a more manageable size.

2498
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:58,920
Um, the community design and amenities

2499
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,440
again on this 103 acres, there's 48%

2500
01:36:02,440 --> 01:36:04,480
open space which is nearly two times the

2501
01:36:04,480 --> 01:36:06,560
requirement. Um, we'll have the two

2502
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,000
entrances. It'll be governed by an HOA.

2503
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,360
Um, and then again the amenities that I

2504
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:12,880
mentioned before with the lake, the

2505
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:16,160
walking trail, um, and um, the pavilion.

2506
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:17,960
And then of course as standard in all of

2507
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,840
our developments, um, sidewalks and

2508
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,680
streetlights will be um, a part of this

2509
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:23,960
as well.

2510
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,440
The homes themselves, um, 1,800 square

2511
01:36:26,440 --> 01:36:28,600
feet is the ordinance requirement. We're

2512
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:32,240
proposing 2,000 square feet per home uh,

2513
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,080
with upgraded exterior materials

2514
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,160
including fiber cement siding and brick

2515
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,080
and stone accents, um, sodded front

2516
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:40,240
yards,

2517
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,000
um, and then following the the Walton

2518
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,400
County new tree ordinance requirements

2519
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,120
uh, for trees.

2520
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:47,600
Um, and then

2521
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:48,760
again, this will be a high quality

2522
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,800
community that blends in with the

2523
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,640
development to the north uh, which was

2524
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:54,520
also called Bison Landing. And so those

2525
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,440
will blend together as a cohesive

2526
01:36:56,440 --> 01:36:58,560
development.

2527
01:36:58,560 --> 01:36:59,840
And these are representative um,

2528
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:01,840
depictions of the houses, same ones with

2529
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,360
that were used for the prior um,

2530
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,720
development. Again, high quality homes,

2531
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:08,520
2,000 plus square feet, um, you know,

2532
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:13,040
long-term durable, attractive materials.

2533
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,760
Um, as mentioned before, 50 foot um,

2534
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,240
transitional buffers. A lot of the um,

2535
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,160
open space is already wooded so we'll be

2536
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,680
leaving that as a buffer against the um,

2537
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,000
homeowners on Fanny Thompson uh, road

2538
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,560
there. Um, and again we're upgrading the

2539
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,480
entrance with a 10 foot landscape strip,

2540
01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:31,880
um, and you know, it'd be a very

2541
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,920
attractive development from the road

2542
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,710
frontage.

2543
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,240
We did have a traffic analysis completed

2544
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,400
um, on this property that was included

2545
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,040
in the application um, that we prepared

2546
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,400
and submitted based on the trip

2547
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,480
generation thresholds that the Georgia

2548
01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:50,880
Department of Transportation puts forth,

2549
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,760
the analysis showed that we would need

2550
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,360
to do right turn deceleration lanes

2551
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,000
coming out of Nickelsville and the

2552
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,880
Williams George Williams

2553
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,760
entrances. My client's happy to do

2554
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,080
those.

2555
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,240
The analysis showed that we were not

2556
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,120
required based on those trip generation

2557
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,640
standards to do a center turn lane.

2558
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:10,440
So based on our analysis, we are going

2559
01:38:10,440 --> 01:38:13,160
to do those two right turn deceleration

2560
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:14,920
lanes.

2561
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:16,800
With that, we request approval of the

2562
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,320
rezoning from A2 to R1 OSC for the Bison

2563
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,680
Landing development. Happy to answer any

2564
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,600
questions you may have.

2565
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,390
>> Thank you. Any questions from any of the

2566
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:26,400
» Thank you. Any questions from any of the

2567
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,950
board members?

2568
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,360
Thank you. Is anyone here in opposition

2569
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:35,320
to this request?

2570
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:36,840
Well, ma'am, I would like for you to

2571
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:38,520
step up to this podium, tell us your

2572
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,160
name and address, and tell us what your

2573
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:46,990
concerns are.

2574
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,040
» My name is I'm going to address my name

2575
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:53,280
as a Campton citizen from 1985.

2576
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:57,000
My name is Kelly Davis Connelly.

2577
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,920
And I

2578
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,840
I became a citizen of Campton in 1985

2579
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,720
when my my mother brought me home from

2580
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:04,480
the hospital.

2581
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:05,710
>> Kelly, would you give us your address,

2582
01:39:05,710 --> 01:39:05,720
» Kelly, would you give us your address,

2583
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:06,200
please?

2584
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:07,390
>> Yes,

2585
01:39:07,390 --> 01:39:07,400
» Yes,

2586
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:08,880
the address in Campton or my home

2587
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:09,560
address?

2588
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:11,030
>> Wherever wherever you reside

2589
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:11,040
» Wherever wherever you reside

2590
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:12,320
permanently.

2591
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:13,430
>> Nickelsville Road.

2592
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:13,440
» Nickelsville Road.

2593
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:13,950
>> Thank you.

2594
01:39:13,950 --> 01:39:13,960
» Thank you.

2595
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,310
>> Doster Manor. I'm speaking on behalf of

2596
01:39:16,310 --> 01:39:16,320
» Doster Manor. I'm speaking on behalf of

2597
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,280
Doster Manor Senior Care Home and Miller

2598
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,120
Manor Senior Care Home.

2599
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:22,990
>> Okay, I know exactly what we're talking

2600
01:39:22,990 --> 01:39:23,000
» Okay, I know exactly what we're talking

2601
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:23,600
about.

2602
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,830
>> Yes. So I

2603
01:39:25,830 --> 01:39:25,840
» Yes. So I

2604
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,720
I just want that I wanted to share that

2605
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,080
I have been a citizen [clears throat]

2606
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,040
since '85 because I love the soil I've

2607
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:34,520
been raised on.

2608
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:38,080
And and I am here tonight not to oppose

2609
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,920
a subdivision.

2610
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,280
I'm here tonight to address the safety.

2611
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:44,960
I don't know if you've ever been on

2612
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,760
Nickelsville Road between 4:00 and 6:00

2613
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,160
at night.

2614
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,880
You You can't get out on the highway.

2615
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,800
Um the traffic backs up all the way to

2616
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,680
Junior and Conoy Parker's house.

2617
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,000
Now,

2618
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,040
and you know and and we don't even have

2619
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:04,120
that 100-acre subdivision that the first

2620
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:05,920
phase that they're putting in. That's We

2621
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,680
don't even have homes in there yet.

2622
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,840
And so Nickelsville Road, do you know

2623
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,880
how how long Nickelsville Road is?

2624
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,310
>> I do. I travel it numerous times a week

2625
01:40:17,310 --> 01:40:17,320
» I do. I travel it numerous times a week

2626
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,480
at 50 mph, mind you.

2627
01:40:19,480 --> 01:40:21,270
>> That's right. About a mile and a half

2628
01:40:21,270 --> 01:40:21,280
» That's right. About a mile and a half

2629
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,400
long is Nickelsville Road. So So what

2630
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,600
we're looking at is currently right

2631
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:30,120
Well, we're looking at putting in 157

2632
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,440
houses total on Nickelsville Road.

2633
01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:36,080
And we already have a traffic issue.

2634
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,000
I've spoken to the Department of of

2635
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,600
Transportation three times within the

2636
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,800
last 6 months. So they first were going

2637
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,400
to try to do a roundabout. So that was a

2638
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:49,360
consideration. But there's gas pumps

2639
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,200
under under the ground at Campton

2640
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:52,800
Restaurant, and you can't do a

2641
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,120
roundabout because those gas pumps there

2642
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:57,200
are from the 1960s.

2643
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:00,320
So there's there's no option with that.

2644
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,800
And if you put a roundabout there, it

2645
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,560
would take out every business there

2646
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,840
basically except for probably mine

2647
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,800
because I have a little bit of frontage

2648
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:10,000
there.

2649
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:14,240
So my point is is that it's it's a

2650
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:16,440
safety thing, and I I want to say this,

2651
01:41:16,440 --> 01:41:19,040
and I hope it's okay that I say this.

2652
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,200
There's a 94-year-old man that lives on

2653
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,720
Nickelsville Road.

2654
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:26,000
It's Tracy's father-in-law.

2655
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,400
He drives that that that road every day

2656
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,320
to turn into Nickelsville Road to the

2657
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,600
Miller house to see his bed-bound wife

2658
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:38,110
in her 90s.

2659
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,440
It's it it's a safety issue for him

2660
01:41:40,440 --> 01:41:42,120
anyway.

2661
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,720
But, he wanted her encamped in near his

2662
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,080
home, so he can drive that little short

2663
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,080
distance to see her.

2664
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,200
And my point is is that it's it's all

2665
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:53,720
about the traffic. I know there's going

2666
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,960
to be an entrance into George Williams,

2667
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,320
but do do you know the curve where the

2668
01:41:58,320 --> 01:41:59,840
where the entrance is going to be into

2669
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:02,720
George Williams? I I'm a nurse. That's a

2670
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,000
fatal curve right there as it is. And

2671
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,280
tractor trailers fly up and down that

2672
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,040
road. I took care of of Judge Judge

2673
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:11,240
Searles

2674
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:13,600
in in that Doster house until he passed

2675
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,280
away. And you know what he used to say,

2676
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,120
Kelly, I'm going to somehow I'm going to

2677
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,160
get a red light here. I don't know how

2678
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:20,360
we're going to get a red light, but

2679
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,520
we're going to get a red light here.

2680
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,720
And I I said all that to say is that

2681
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,920
that area is so I mean, how many

2682
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:30,760
accidents do y'all know of that Josh

2683
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:32,800
Parker face? He puts it on Facebook.

2684
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:34,960
We've had another wreck another hit to

2685
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:36,920
the Camden restaurant. Another one. In

2686
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,600
the past year, we've had at least five.

2687
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,520
But, from 4:00 to 6:00, the traffic is

2688
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:45,080
backed up all the way

2689
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,760
to the Parkers.

2690
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:48,440
You can't you can't get in the highway.

2691
01:42:48,440 --> 01:42:50,080
I I mean, there's no resolution for

2692
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,840
that. And you know, I and I

2693
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:55,720
I say this

2694
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:57,720
with two entrances. Okay, one entrance

2695
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,360
is going to come out near where the

2696
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,520
Burgeses is. And that's within

2697
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,880
1,000 yd of the other subdivision.

2698
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:07,520
I mean, how in the world is all this

2699
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,120
going to come and go?

2700
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:10,960
I mean, it's it's not even feasible.

2701
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:11,800
You're going to have to have a

2702
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,440
helicopter to bring them in to get

2703
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:16,840
people out with traffic. I mean, 157

2704
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,440
houses?

2705
01:43:18,440 --> 01:43:22,720
So, and it also and I'm just I mean, I'm

2706
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:26,240
just speaking is

2707
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,120
you know what? I know what I'm saying is

2708
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,880
null and void because any it's David

2709
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:32,840
Thompson's family's property. Do you

2710
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,120
know his parents were some of the finest

2711
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,320
people I've ever met in my life. His

2712
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,480
mother filed my first set of taxes when

2713
01:43:39,480 --> 01:43:42,280
I was 16 years old. If he'd have posted

2714
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:43,640
it for sale, I'd have given him $2

2715
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:46,240
million $2 million for that 100 acres

2716
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:48,840
just to leave it farmland.

2717
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,200
QuickTrip can offer me $4 million for my

2718
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,000
corner right there. I wouldn't let them

2719
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,160
have it because the older I've gotten, I

2720
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,960
love the soil I've been raised on.

2721
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,840
And if Junior Parker was living, he'd be

2722
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,680
down here tonight speaking up as well.

2723
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:05,920
I'm saying that we don't have any more

2724
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,120
room for another subdivision right

2725
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:09,440
there.

2726
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:10,480
I mean

2727
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:12,160
And and you know, and we all have a

2728
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,480
problem on that road where the soil

2729
01:44:14,480 --> 01:44:17,040
don't perk. Soil don't perk. Thompson so

2730
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,720
Thompson soil perks. It it it perked

2731
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:20,920
over there where they bought that

2732
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,120
property. The James Sales farm right

2733
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:24,920
next door to it, I take care of James

2734
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,720
Sales right now. And his and his farm is

2735
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,400
right there. You know, his soil don't

2736
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,160
perk.

2737
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,000
And I can promise you all of that 100

2738
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:36,680
acres they're they're trying to purchase

2739
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:38,440
all of that don't perk.

2740
01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:39,960
Some of it might, but there's going to

2741
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:43,320
be low areas that it doesn't. And I mean

2742
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:44,920
and it's a we're never going to have

2743
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,240
sewer out that far. Sewer's never going

2744
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:49,200
to come that far.

2745
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,920
I'm just saying and I want to go back. I

2746
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,040
don't want to make it personal. I want

2747
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:59,190
to go back to the fact. I love Canton.

2748
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,640
We don't need another subdivision. One

2749
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:05,000
with 100 houses on Nichols Ville Road is

2750
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,160
enough. And we know the James Sales

2751
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:08,800
farm's not going to move as a

2752
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,600
subdivision because their soil don't

2753
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,040
perk.

2754
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,480
But one is enough. How about put a for

2755
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:16,480
sale sign on it?

2756
01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:19,320
David told the the cashier at the

2757
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:21,960
restaurant, "I've got to sell it because

2758
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:23,160
my brother and sister want their

2759
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,720
inheritance." Put it up for sale.

2760
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,200
There's people that's got money that'll

2761
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,240
buy it. That's some of the prettiest

2762
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:31,000
farmland you've ever laid your eyes on

2763
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,400
there.

2764
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,280
There's people that'll purchase it. Why

2765
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:41,110
do we have to make it a subdivision?

2766
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,440
I just share my passion for Canton.

2767
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:45,030
>> Yes, ma'am.

2768
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:45,040
» Yes, ma'am.

2769
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:46,950
>> And for the safety and for the residents

2770
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:46,960
» And for the safety and for the residents

2771
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:47,960
that are there.

2772
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,270
>> Thank you so very much.

2773
01:45:50,270 --> 01:45:50,280
» Thank you so very much.

2774
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:54,710
Anyone else in opposition?

2775
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,000
I'm going to ask the applicant

2776
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:58,400
to step back up. I'll make a couple

2777
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,600
little quick comments regarding

2778
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:02,640
uh

2779
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:03,920
And while she's stepping up, let me ask

2780
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,040
is anyone here as a proponent for the

2781
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:07,760
request or the rezone that wants to

2782
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,870
speak on behalf of the

2783
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,000
in favor of? Okay.

2784
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:13,960
So,

2785
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:15,240
um

2786
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,880
ma'am, I want you to understand that we

2787
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,240
heard everything and we greatly

2788
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,520
appreciate you being here tonight, okay?

2789
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:23,920
All right, Andrea.

2790
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:25,390
>> Yes, sir. Well, I just want to say

2791
01:46:25,390 --> 01:46:25,400
» Yes, sir. Well, I just want to say

2792
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:27,040
greatly um appreciate Ms. Connerly

2793
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,360
speaking tonight and her passion for our

2794
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,320
community and for her taking care of

2795
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:33,480
some of the the greatest members of the

2796
01:46:33,480 --> 01:46:34,680
community that have come through Walton

2797
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,000
County. Um I love her passion uh for

2798
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,120
that and I appreciate her speaking

2799
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,360
tonight. Um

2800
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,280
And trying to kind of look at this from

2801
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:45,920
an objective standpoint, which this

2802
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,200
board is is that that is what this board

2803
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,280
is here to do. When you look at this

2804
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,600
from an objective, legal, regulatory

2805
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,000
standpoint, we're checking all the boxes

2806
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,320
to be able to be approved for this

2807
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:57,720
rezoning.

2808
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,240
We're consistent with the future land

2809
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:01,120
use plan.

2810
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,400
We have done our homework on the traffic

2811
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:05,280
analysis. We've had an actual engineer

2812
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,920
look at this from a GDOT regulation

2813
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,200
perspective and given us advice on the

2814
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:11,560
things that we need to do to make those

2815
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,280
improvements to make this a safe

2816
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,600
development and we're going to do those.

2817
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,800
Uh we've got the two entrances to help

2818
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,960
the flow of traffic.

2819
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:21,080
Um

2820
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,160
and as far as GDOT, we can't control

2821
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:24,360
what the state does, you can't control

2822
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:25,840
what the state does.

2823
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:27,200
We're happy to have a conversation with

2824
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,480
GDOT about those two areas, but we're

2825
01:47:29,480 --> 01:47:30,920
doing all that we can do on our

2826
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:32,280
development to make it as safe as

2827
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:33,600
possible.

2828
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:34,600
And when you look at the overall

2829
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:36,440
traffic, you know, coming down Highway

2830
01:47:36,440 --> 01:47:37,680
11,

2831
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:38,880
um

2832
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:42,760
our two developments combined are 149

2833
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,080
homes for both developments

2834
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,280
would increase traffic less than 2% of

2835
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,200
what's already coming there. So, we're

2836
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:50,440
we're not

2837
01:47:50,440 --> 01:47:51,920
creating the problem here. We're doing

2838
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,160
all we can on our side for what we can

2839
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:56,680
control to make it as safe as possible.

2840
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:57,760
And once again, we're meeting all the

2841
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,760
requirements of the ordinance and the

2842
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:01,760
future land use plan.

2843
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:02,920
So, with that, I'm happy to answer any

2844
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,200
other questions you may have.

2845
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,230
>> Um Andrea, I know that you indicated

2846
01:48:08,230 --> 01:48:08,240
» Um Andrea, I know that you indicated

2847
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:08,920
um

2848
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:12,040
that you guys planned to have a

2849
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,400
landscape buffer, if you want to call it

2850
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:19,600
that, out front, and you also know

2851
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,310
um

2852
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,600
I have been a part of

2853
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,560
not only the property that's adjacent

2854
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:28,960
that's going to be combined with this,

2855
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,080
but also one up the street.

2856
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,310
Um

2857
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:38,800
and in doing so, in consistency with

2858
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:42,080
what I have done on those,

2859
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,000
being that there's exposure from

2860
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,160
Nickelsville Road both at the point of

2861
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,120
entry, and also there's the other

2862
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,320
between the residential outparcels and

2863
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,680
the commercial outparcels on the corner

2864
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:54,030
>> Yes.

2865
01:48:54,030 --> 01:48:54,040
» Yes.

2866
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:56,150
>> uh that the lady spoke of.

2867
01:48:56,150 --> 01:48:56,160
» uh that the lady spoke of.

2868
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:57,880
Um

2869
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,880
I would like to see

2870
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:02,600
that when you're talking landscape

2871
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,640
buffer, we're both more specific.

2872
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,360
Uh there is no tree line as there was on

2873
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:10,800
the neighborhood up the street, so

2874
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,080
the whole thing's exposed. Um I want to

2875
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:15,360
see some type of fencing,

2876
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:19,310
uh shrubs,

2877
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,480
and trees

2878
01:49:21,480 --> 01:49:23,440
that'll be future buffer from the

2879
01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:24,880
roadway

2880
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,400
that are consistent with the other two,

2881
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:28,080
uh,

2882
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,160
in the conditions that were proposed on

2883
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:31,480
those.

2884
01:49:31,480 --> 01:49:33,920
For for that, I'm and I'm asking you,

2885
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,640
that's what I'm asking you, do you see

2886
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,000
an issue with that with your developer?

2887
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:39,270
>> No issue.

2888
01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:39,280
» No issue.

2889
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:40,350
>> Okay.

2890
01:49:40,350 --> 01:49:40,360
» Okay.

2891
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,400
Uh, just following consistency there.

2892
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,120
Um,

2893
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,200
I don't have any further questions at

2894
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:51,080
this time. Anyone else have a question?

2895
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,120
Thank you, Andrew.

2896
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,240
Uh, I want to address a couple concerns.

2897
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,360
So, first of all, I mean, I came there

2898
01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:59,600
tonight. I went to Camden, took a right

2899
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,240
up highway 11 here.

2900
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:02,640
Uh, I've been driving to Camden

2901
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,160
restaurant and eating for

2902
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,160
30 plus years.

2903
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:09,520
You might have, and I just don't

2904
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,400
remember you, and for that I ask your

2905
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:13,560
forgiveness. As my hair continues to

2906
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,320
turn this color, I forget more. So,

2907
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:20,080
but uh, so I mean,

2908
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:22,400
I know everything

2909
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,680
that that, you know, has occurred, and I

2910
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:26,800
I appreciate your concerns.

2911
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,520
Um, I I don't think that I don't think

2912
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,520
that there's anywhere I was just up at

2913
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,160
my dad's house today, so to get what

2914
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:36,040
used to be my grandfather's

2915
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:37,600
property to get to my dad's house, I

2916
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:39,480
have to drive through a neighborhood.

2917
01:50:39,480 --> 01:50:41,800
Uh, you know, change is

2918
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:43,560
relevant. As long as we keep having

2919
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:44,760
children,

2920
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,400
we keep needing houses. So,

2921
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:51,440
um, the use is the other thing, and

2922
01:50:51,440 --> 01:50:52,880
I feel like that

2923
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,240
as I just spoke, um, obviously there's

2924
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,760
been other requests and been very

2925
01:50:57,760 --> 01:50:59,160
consistent. I don't care who the

2926
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,080
landowner is, that really doesn't matter

2927
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:04,080
to me. I have a protocol I follow, and

2928
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,000
that's being fair. Wouldn't matter who

2929
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:07,600
the landowner is. I don't have a right

2930
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,080
to tell one person yes and another

2931
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:10,480
person no. I don't feel like that

2932
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:12,120
that's, uh,

2933
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:12,920
um,

2934
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,840
would be proper in any way uh, if all of

2935
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:19,680
the other checklist is is there. So,

2936
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,760
um, but I I do want to tell you that I I

2937
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:25,280
really appreciate your concerns and feel

2938
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:26,960
uh, any pain that you feel. I live at

2939
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:28,680
the corner of Hickory Grove and Bolt

2940
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,200
Springs. It used to be no subdivisions

2941
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,720
on Hickory Grove

2942
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:35,080
and now there's four and I have a hard

2943
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,400
time getting out of my own driveway and

2944
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:38,480
I have a hard time getting in Bolt

2945
01:51:38,480 --> 01:51:40,840
Springs Road. So,

2946
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:42,240
um,

2947
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:45,280
it it just it it sneaks. I did hear

2948
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,240
someone the other day, Tracy, have you

2949
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,400
heard anything that somebody did tell me

2950
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,360
that their DOT was looking really hard

2951
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:53,480
at putting a traffic light there 11

2952
01:51:53,480 --> 01:51:55,480
Nichols Road. Have you

2953
01:51:55,480 --> 01:51:56,400
heard anything regarding that?

2954
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,510
>> heard anything.

2955
01:51:58,510 --> 01:51:58,520
» heard anything.

2956
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,790
>> Yeah, so anyway, uh, hopefully that

2957
01:52:00,790 --> 01:52:00,800
» Yeah, so anyway, uh, hopefully that

2958
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:02,840
someday we we will see that. We all know

2959
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:04,560
how that goes with state DOT, but

2960
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,480
hopefully we'll see it.

2961
01:52:07,480 --> 01:52:11,600
Yes, ma'am.

2962
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:12,560
So,

2963
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:13,870
>> I've tried [clears throat] to deal with

2964
01:52:13,870 --> 01:52:13,880
» I've tried [clears throat] to deal with

2965
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:15,880
DOT. I'd rather pull a

2966
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:16,350
>> Yeah.

2967
01:52:16,350 --> 01:52:16,360
» Yeah.

2968
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,430
>> teeth of a tiger on Prozac than I would

2969
01:52:18,430 --> 01:52:18,440
» teeth of a tiger on Prozac than I would

2970
01:52:18,440 --> 01:52:19,480
deal with the DOT.

2971
01:52:19,480 --> 01:52:20,470
>> I'm with you.

2972
01:52:20,470 --> 01:52:20,480
» I'm with you.

2973
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:22,790
>> They might promise a red light there and

2974
01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:22,800
» They might promise a red light there and

2975
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,480
it might be 10 years before you ever see

2976
01:52:25,480 --> 01:52:27,080
anything. We're still waiting on one at

2977
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,320
78 and Youthsman Road.

2978
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:29,710
>> Yeah.

2979
01:52:29,710 --> 01:52:29,720
» Yeah.

2980
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:31,750
>> From God only knows how many years ago.

2981
01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:31,760
» From God only knows how many years ago.

2982
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:31,960
So,

2983
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:32,830
>> Yeah. Yeah.

2984
01:52:32,830 --> 01:52:32,840
» Yeah. Yeah.

2985
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,190
>> Just cuz the state might talk to you

2986
01:52:34,190 --> 01:52:34,200
» Just cuz the state might talk to you

2987
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:35,520
don't mean you fixing to get it.

2988
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:37,030
>> That's right.

2989
01:52:37,030 --> 01:52:37,040
» That's right.

2990
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:37,760
So, [clears throat] with that being

2991
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:40,120
said, uh, our task or what we're tasked

2992
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:41,560
with is we're tasked with looking at the

2993
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,000
request, looking at how it conforms to

2994
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,480
our land use map and also

2995
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:48,440
uh, does it adhere to

2996
01:52:48,440 --> 01:52:51,160
um, general guidelines that were given

2997
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:53,400
in consideration for any modification or

2998
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,280
change. And with that,

2999
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:57,400
I would like to make a motion uh,

3000
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,760
regarding this case of approval with

3001
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,440
the condition that I spoke of that and

3002
01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:05,600
this will include you where for entry's

3003
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:08,800
going and also that portion between the

3004
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,200
single family residential homes

3005
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,320
and the commercial uh properties on the

3006
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:17,200
corner of this lady here uh spoke of.

3007
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:19,800
Uh so, all of that would have to be

3008
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:22,760
inclusive of both the fencing,

3009
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:26,520
shrubs, and trees all included

3010
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:28,520
uh in entry as a buffer between

3011
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:30,920
Nickelsville Road and this development

3012
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:32,920
to grow up in the future and give a good

3013
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:34,080
screen

3014
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:35,720
uh to that neighborhood.

3015
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,760
So, that would be the only implication

3016
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:39,960
and I think that's uh the only request

3017
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:41,320
outside. There was no other further

3018
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:42,920
request for variances or anything. So,

3019
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,960
with that, that would be my motion.

3020
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:46,840
Do I have a second?

3021
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:47,630
>> Second.

3022
01:53:47,630 --> 01:53:47,640
» Second.

3023
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:48,910
>> I have a second. All in favor, raise

3024
01:53:48,910 --> 01:53:48,920
» I have a second. All in favor, raise

3025
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:50,240
your right hand and say I.

3026
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:50,830
>> I.

3027
01:53:50,830 --> 01:53:50,840
» I.

3028
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,230
>> I. Any opposed?

3029
01:53:53,230 --> 01:53:53,240
» I. Any opposed?

3030
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,120
All right. One opposed.

3031
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,520
Four approved.

3032
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,320
Thank you. And this will go to the Board

3033
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:10,830
of Commissioners next month.

3034
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:13,400
Next on the agenda for this evening is

3035
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:15,360
Z260195.

3036
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,520
This is the rezone 14.97 acres from A1

3037
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:21,840
to A2 to create two

3038
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:25,000
1.5 acre buildable lots.

3039
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:26,120
Uh this is going to be for the

3040
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:28,720
applicant's children children.

3041
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:29,880
Uh

3042
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,520
Ramps Ramperstad Rampersad

3043
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:33,800
Rampersand

3044
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:35,840
uh is the owner and the property is

3045
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:38,520
located at 2940 Fanny Thompson. Sir, if

3046
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:39,840
you would please give us your name and

3047
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:41,760
address and tell us what you're asking

3048
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:43,360
for here.

3049
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,190
>> Uh good evening, Chairman. My name is

3050
01:54:45,190 --> 01:54:45,200
» Uh good evening, Chairman. My name is

3051
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:48,320
Neil Rampersaud and I reside at uh 2940

3052
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:50,040
Fanny Thompson.

3053
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,360
And uh we're requesting uh zoning from

3054
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:54,480
A1 to A2.

3055
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:56,720
Uh we've been residents in Walton County

3056
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:58,920
and operating a business for over 20

3057
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:00,120
years.

3058
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:02,480
Uh my kids here were educated in Walton

3059
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:03,480
County.

3060
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,000
Uh, they still live in it Walton County.

3061
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,320
Uh, they attend they attend church in

3062
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:09,960
Walton County. They serve in their

3063
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,720
community. Community, uh, they serve

3064
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:15,720
with uh Kids Outdoors Zone and uh

3065
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:17,360
they've just been a blessing and a joy

3066
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,760
to raise. Uh

3067
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,600
It it was really heartwarming when our

3068
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,360
kids decided to you know, talked about

3069
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,400
building on our property. So, we're

3070
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:29,520
requesting uh, just uh

3071
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,840
A1 to A2. Uh, we had talked originally

3072
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:34,800
my kids would say probably because I was

3073
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:36,680
cheap I tried to do 1 acre, but Ms.

3074
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:40,160
Malcolm suggested that I do 1.5 and then

3075
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:42,640
uh turn it into A2. So, that's our

3076
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:43,960
request.

3077
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,230
>> Okay. And so, these two sites will be

3078
01:55:46,230 --> 01:55:46,240
» Okay. And so, these two sites will be

3079
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:47,680
for both your children.

3080
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:49,630
>> Yes, sir. One on one side, one on the

3081
01:55:49,630 --> 01:55:49,640
» Yes, sir. One on one side, one on the

3082
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:50,040
other. Yes.

3083
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:53,030
>> Yes, sir. All righty. Any questions from

3084
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:53,040
» Yes, sir. All righty. Any questions from

3085
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,550
any of the board members?

3086
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:57,640
Thank you, sir.

3087
01:55:57,640 --> 01:55:58,670
>> Thank you.

3088
01:55:58,670 --> 01:55:58,680
» Thank you.

3089
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:00,350
>> Anyone here in opposition to this

3090
01:56:00,350 --> 01:56:00,360
» Anyone here in opposition to this

3091
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,560
request?

3092
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,600
Anyone to speak as a proponent for the

3093
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,830
applicant?

3094
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:10,960
No reason for rebuttal. Any

3095
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:13,520
questions, concerns, comments amongst

3096
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:16,520
any of the members?

3097
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,520
If not, I would like to make a motion

3098
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:22,720
uh, for approval as submitted

3099
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:26,470
for case Z260195.

3100
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:27,520
Do I have a second?

3101
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:28,550
>> Second.

3102
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:28,560
» Second.

3103
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:29,950
>> All in favor, raise your right hand.

3104
01:56:29,950 --> 01:56:29,960
» All in favor, raise your right hand.

3105
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:30,630
>> Say aye.

3106
01:56:30,630 --> 01:56:30,640
» Say aye.

3107
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,590
>> Aye.

3108
01:56:32,590 --> 01:56:32,600
» Aye.

3109
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:34,510
>> Thank you.

3110
01:56:34,510 --> 01:56:34,520
» Thank you.

3111
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:38,510
Tracy.

3112
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,920
In a public format

3113
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,400
I would like to note that I have made

3114
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:45,200
some mistakes tonight.

3115
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:47,600
I've not always in my recommendations

3116
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:49,080
quoted the zoning number and you've

3117
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:50,720
probably caught on to that. That's

3118
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,760
because I've been absent for 2 months

3119
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:54,480
and I apologize.

3120
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:56,240
But, you keeping me straight, right?

3121
01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:57,880
Yes, ma'am. Thank you so much. We so

3122
01:56:57,880 --> 01:56:59,080
proud to have

3123
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:01,720
Christie and Tracy and

3124
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:03,635
>> The rest.

3125
01:57:03,635 --> 01:57:03,645
» The rest.

3126
01:57:03,645 --> 01:57:03,750
>> [snorts]

3127
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:03,760
» [snorts]

3128
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:04,590
>> The what?

3129
01:57:04,590 --> 01:57:04,600
» The what?

3130
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:05,350
>> The rest.

3131
01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:05,360
» The rest.

3132
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:06,390
>> The rest? Yeah.

3133
01:57:06,390 --> 01:57:06,400
» The rest? Yeah.

3134
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:07,110
>> All y'all.

3135
01:57:07,110 --> 01:57:07,120
» All y'all.

3136
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,430
>> Our support staff. Even Even Mark back

3137
01:57:09,430 --> 01:57:09,440
» Our support staff. Even Even Mark back

3138
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:10,200
here.

3139
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:10,790
>> Hanging out in the back.

3140
01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:10,800
» Hanging out in the back.

3141
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:12,870
>> In the back. True Baptist back there.

3142
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:12,880
» In the back. True Baptist back there.

3143
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:14,440
So, we got We appreciate having all

3144
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:15,960
y'all here tonight.

3145
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,880
All right. So, last on our agenda for

3146
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:20,720
this evening

3147
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:23,800
is LU26-0179

3148
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:26,800
and Z26-0177.

3149
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:28,240
This is a land use change from

3150
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:29,840
employment center to neighborhood

3151
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:33,000
residential and to rezone 32.479

3152
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:35,920
acres from A1 to R1OSC

3153
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:39,000
to create 20 re- residential lots. The

3154
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,880
applicant is Reliant Homes. Owner 81

3155
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:44,800
Investments LLC. And the property is

3156
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:47,200
located at Cedar Ridge Road. And Mr.

3157
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:55,310
Butler, would you please step up?

3158
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:57,440
» I'll skip the presentation. Uh this is a

3159
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:00,200
pretty easy one tonight. This is 32

3160
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:03,520
acres on Cedar Ridge Road, uh just off

3161
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:07,040
Highway 78. Uh we are proposing to

3162
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,760
develop a 20-lot subdivision here.

3163
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,440
Uh first, we need to request a land use

3164
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:14,800
map change. This is in an employment

3165
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,160
center land use map, which would allow

3166
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:21,520
anywhere from B1 to B3 to M1 to M2. So,

3167
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,640
we are asking for a much less intensive

3168
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:27,200
zoning as a R1OSC neighborhood and

3169
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:29,240
requesting neighborhood residential to

3170
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:32,280
do so. Uh that's was done with the

3171
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,000
property to the west of us a couple

3172
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:36,360
years ago and developed into a

3173
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:37,840
subdivision

3174
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,600
under R1OSC in a similar lot size and

3175
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:43,040
lot yieldage per the acreage. Uh you can

3176
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:45,320
see in the shaded area that is the

3177
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,760
proposed open space. We're providing the

3178
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:49,840
50-ft transitional buffer and making

3179
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,800
that open space along the A1 property to

3180
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,520
the east and rear. Um

3181
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:56,280
as

3182
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:58,840
stated before, we have an R1 OSC

3183
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:00,800
subdivision just to the left of us. To

3184
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,960
the north of us, we touch the Meritage

3185
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,920
development that's in the city of Monroe

3186
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:09,080
that's about 300 lots on 200 acres. So,

3187
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:11,960
a much more intense zoning there.

3188
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,240
Uh with that, I will see if you have any

3189
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:15,840
questions and save the rest of my time

3190
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:16,560
for rebuttal.

3191
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,470
>> Thank you. Any additional questions for

3192
01:59:19,470 --> 01:59:19,480
» Thank you. Any additional questions for

3193
01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:20,080
the applicant?

3194
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:23,430
>> Good.

3195
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:24,960
» Uh Nate, just stay right there just a

3196
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:26,320
minute. Is there anyone here to speak in

3197
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:28,040
opposition?

3198
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,360
Okay. All right. Come on up, sir. Give

3199
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,960
us your name and

3200
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,560
your address.

3201
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:37,080
And tell us what your concerns are or

3202
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:38,720
what questions you may have. We'll allow

3203
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,360
Mr. Butler to come back and answer

3204
01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:40,800
those.

3205
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,310
>> Uh John Ashley Barrientos. I own 599

3206
01:59:43,310 --> 01:59:43,320
» Uh John Ashley Barrientos. I own 599

3207
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:44,880
Cedar Ridge Road, Ashley Hills Pet

3208
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:46,920
Center on Cedar Ridge Road in between

3209
01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:48,600
all these big developments.

3210
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:49,920
My biggest thing is there've been a

3211
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,560
traffic report.

3212
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:53,520
Uh we've already seen Rowe Road get shut

3213
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:55,120
off where there's no cross traffic there

3214
01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:57,040
anymore cuz that got dangerous.

3215
01:59:57,040 --> 01:59:58,880
This is a nightmare intersection. I've

3216
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:01,360
got clients and employees

3217
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:03,360
that's it it scares the hell out of me.

3218
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:04,560
Especially the older clients that come

3219
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:06,360
down here. They try to turn off of 78.

3220
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:07,880
You try to tell them how to go up and go

3221
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:09,920
around and get on 138, get on that, get

3222
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:13,000
on 11, get back on 78.

3223
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:14,440
And that's that's more confusing for

3224
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:16,520
them than than anything else. But my

3225
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:17,960
fear is just that's going to be a

3226
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:19,480
danger. From what you're talking about

3227
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:20,840
all these other places, especially with

3228
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:22,560
Compton, who knows when Georgia

3229
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:23,880
Department of Transportation will ever

3230
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:25,120
take a look at these things or try to

3231
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:26,720
resolve them.

3232
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:27,680
You know, that's kind of like a

3233
02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:29,360
junction, I guess, of county and city

3234
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:30,560
right there. So, I kind of feel like

3235
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:31,720
it's just in this little no man's land.

3236
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:32,840
Nobody's going to pay attention to it

3237
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:35,040
until there's astronomical deaths of

3238
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:36,960
these students leaving that high school.

3239
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:38,080
Cedar Ridge Road is already pretty

3240
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:39,120
dangerous.

3241
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:40,800
That turn coming through there,

3242
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:42,200
especially in the wintertime, I mean,

3243
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,360
that it's it's a lot of problems in

3244
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:46,600
there. Um

3245
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:48,040
that there's issues with the county in

3246
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:49,480
that. when we had trees fall down, I

3247
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,360
tried to talk to the sheriff about that

3248
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,960
and he didn't even know where it was. Um

3249
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:55,560
it just interesting little area there,

3250
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:57,880
but it's we don't even have reports yet

3251
02:00:57,880 --> 02:00:58,880
on what the neighborhood at the end of

3252
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:00,520
the road's going to be with 300 somewhat

3253
02:01:00,520 --> 02:01:02,600
homes going in. I'm pretty sure they're

3254
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:04,000
going to be putting homes across the

3255
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:05,360
street there as well. I think they're

3256
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:06,480
already

3257
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:07,840
pre-set for that. So, that's going to be

3258
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:10,160
another couple hundred homes.

3259
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:11,800
As far as a business owner, I love it.

3260
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:13,440
More homes, more people, more business,

3261
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:14,880
more opportunities for me. But, I'll

3262
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:16,400
still look at the community and I think

3263
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:17,640
we need to start looking at the danger

3264
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:18,600
that we're putting in this community

3265
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:20,200
with all these neighborhoods so packed

3266
02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:21,240
together.

3267
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:23,800
It just I it moving to this community,

3268
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:26,160
I've been here for 20 somewhat years.

3269
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:27,920
Awesome to see the growth. Again, as a

3270
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:29,240
business owner, I love to see the

3271
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:31,040
growth, but I do think we need to put

3272
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:33,800
more into the aspects of the danger that

3273
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:35,560
we're creating on the roadways. Cars are

3274
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:37,120
going faster.

3275
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:38,920
Kids getting these licenses. It's you

3276
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:39,800
know, we're right there by a high

3277
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:40,920
school.

3278
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:42,480
So, just something to think about.

3279
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:43,240
That's it.

3280
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:43,870
>> Thank you, sir.

3281
02:01:43,870 --> 02:01:43,880
» Thank you, sir.

3282
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:44,510
>> Cool. Thank you.

3283
02:01:44,510 --> 02:01:44,520
» Cool. Thank you.

3284
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:49,030
>> Appreciate it.

3285
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:50,560
» Mr. Butler, if you'd step back up for

3286
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:51,320
rebuttal.

3287
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:53,590
>> Yes, sir. So, we did not do a traffic

3288
02:01:53,590 --> 02:01:53,600
» Yes, sir. So, we did not do a traffic

3289
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:55,160
impact study on this one and I'll be

3290
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:57,760
honest with it being 20 lots, I know

3291
02:01:57,760 --> 02:01:59,840
what it was going to say and that we'll

3292
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:03,240
need to do a right in D-cell lane. Um

3293
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:04,640
it's not going to generate enough

3294
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:06,840
traffic with 20 lots to require a left

3295
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:10,400
turn lane. So, we saved the $2,000 to do

3296
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:12,680
that prior to getting a zoning approval.

3297
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:14,600
If the county in their review of our

3298
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:16,920
construction plans require it, we we'll

3299
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:19,360
do whatever the county requires. Um I

3300
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:22,000
will just say again, with going from the

3301
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:23,840
employment center to a neighborhood

3302
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,800
residential, we are going with a much

3303
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,840
less intensive zoning that could go on

3304
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:31,920
this 32 acres that would generate a lot

3305
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,320
less traffic than what we could request

3306
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:36,120
under the current future land use map.

3307
02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:38,920
So, I think long-term this puts less

3308
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:40,840
traffic on this

3309
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:44,040
Cedar Ridge Road than if it stays as

3310
02:02:44,040 --> 02:02:48,910
currently in the future land use map.

3311
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:51,800
» Okay. Um

3312
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:53,600
So, while you're here,

3313
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:56,200
um is there anyone here as a proponent

3314
02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:58,760
on behalf of this applicant?

3315
02:02:58,760 --> 02:02:59,760
Okay.

3316
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,350
Um

3317
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:03,920
Sir?

3318
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:05,880
Um I

3319
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:07,800
I kind of I'm I'm just just following

3320
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:09,560
protocol. You can talk with Nate. I'm

3321
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:11,440
sure he'll open himself up. Yeah. Yeah.

3322
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:12,960
Yeah, he'll open himself up talk to you

3323
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:14,440
after the meeting.

3324
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:17,000
Um

3325
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:18,360
You

3326
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:21,320
heard what I requested of Andrea

3327
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:23,120
regarding the entry.

3328
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:25,920
Um so, if there's exposure

3329
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:28,480
open, not tree line, on the

3330
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:29,840
right-of-way. If it's tree lined, you

3331
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:31,320
don't have to disturb it, fine. But, if

3332
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:32,760
it's disturbed

3333
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:34,600
or if it's open,

3334
02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:37,600
that there be fencing,

3335
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:42,200
um shrubs, and trees for future

3336
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:44,400
blockage of

3337
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:46,800
the subdivision site from from that road

3338
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:48,440
right-of-way. Do you have any problem

3339
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:49,960
with that as a condition?

3340
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:51,990
>> This site's fully wooded and

3341
02:03:51,990 --> 02:03:52,000
» This site's fully wooded and

3342
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:53,230
>> Okay. So, you're going to leave the

3343
02:03:53,230 --> 02:03:53,240
» Okay. So, you're going to leave the

3344
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:54,120
trees

3345
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,070
>> non-disturbed bus buffer along the

3346
02:03:56,070 --> 02:03:56,080
» non-disturbed bus buffer along the

3347
02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:56,720
right-of-way. So,

3348
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:57,190
>> So,

3349
02:03:57,190 --> 02:03:57,200
» So,

3350
02:03:57,200 --> 02:03:58,710
>> we we will do a

3351
02:03:58,710 --> 02:03:58,720
» we we will do a

3352
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:01,400
landscaped entranceway where we tie into

3353
02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:03,080
the subdivision with a cell link.

3354
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:04,990
>> And so, any trees that are existing

3355
02:04:04,990 --> 02:04:05,000
» And so, any trees that are existing

3356
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:06,400
along the right-of-way, you'll leave as

3357
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:07,960
many as you can. Where you disturb for

3358
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:10,040
your entrance, you will put the fencing,

3359
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:12,480
trees, and shrubs in that area that

3360
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:14,480
exceeds uh for grading.

3361
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:14,830
>> Yes.

3362
02:04:14,830 --> 02:04:14,840
» Yes.

3363
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:15,510
>> You good with that?

3364
02:04:15,510 --> 02:04:15,520
» You good with that?

3365
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:16,190
>> Yep.

3366
02:04:16,190 --> 02:04:16,200
» Yep.

3367
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:17,830
>> Thank you.

3368
02:04:17,830 --> 02:04:17,840
» Thank you.

3369
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,840
That's it. Anybody else have a question?

3370
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,800
Any discussion among the board members?

3371
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:24,760
All right. If not,

3372
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:28,680
I would like to make a motion LU260179

3373
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:31,920
and Z260177

3374
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:34,080
uh for approval with the condition that

3375
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:36,120
was agreed upon by the applicant at our

3376
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:37,720
public meeting

3377
02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:40,600
uh for the disturbed area for the entry

3378
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:43,560
that anything that has or is currently

3379
02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:45,200
tree lined on the right of way will be

3380
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:46,560
left except for what needs to be

3381
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:49,680
disturbed for the entry and that that's

3382
02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:53,480
will be fenced have shrubs planted and

3383
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:55,120
trees for

3384
02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:57,280
future screening of that neighborhood

3385
02:04:57,280 --> 02:04:59,680
from the public right away. Do I have a

3386
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:00,440
second?

3387
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:01,390
>> Second.

3388
02:05:01,390 --> 02:05:01,400
» Second.

3389
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:02,710
>> All in favor raise your right hand and

3390
02:05:02,710 --> 02:05:02,720
» All in favor raise your right hand and

3391
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:03,440
say I.

3392
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:06,070
>> I.

3393
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:07,520
» All right.

3394
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:11,360
Is there any public comment?

3395
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:14,720
No Mark, you're not allowed.

3396
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:16,000
All right, with that I'll take a motion

3397
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:16,920
for adjournment.

3398
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:17,710
>> So moved.

3399
02:05:17,710 --> 02:05:17,720
» So moved.

3400
02:05:17,720 --> 02:05:19,630
>> I have a motion do I have a second?

3401
02:05:19,630 --> 02:05:19,640
» I have a motion do I have a second?

3402
02:05:19,640 --> 02:05:21,000
All in favor raise your right hand and

3403
02:05:21,000 --> 02:06:37,190
say I. I. Thanks everybody.

3404
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,240
» Mhm.