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- Okay,

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- Welcome to the W School Committee for Wednesday,

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September 9th, 2026.

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Please stand for the Pledge

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of Allegiance. The Pledge of Allegiance

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- To the flag of the

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United States of America. And two, the Republic

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- Forgit stands, - One nation under God,

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under indivisible liberty and

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- Justice sprawl.

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Can we stay standing for a second? Yeah, I would like to,

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Friday is September up,

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- And - I would just like to do a moment of silence

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for the victims of 17th of September 11th.

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It's been 25 years and less, we forget.

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So do a moment of silence for

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September 11th, which will be on Friday.

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All right. Thank you very much. Alright.

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Approval of warrants and payroll warrants for

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- Make the motion to approve warrants

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and payroll for 9 9 20 26.

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- Do we have a second? - Second.

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- All in favor, Kevin? Aye. Julie? Aye. Aye.

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For myself, Mike. Aye. Mel. Aye.

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Oh, we did warrants and payroll.

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Yeah, it's two separate lines there. Sorry.

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Minutes for August 22nd, 2026.

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That was the minutes for the walkthrough. Do have a motion?

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- I'll make a motion to approve the minutes from the

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walkthrough on 8 20 20 or 8 22.

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2026.

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- Do we have a second? Second. All in favor?

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The only thing, the only All in favor?

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Well, it says subcommittee on the top.

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I'll just have that changed to committee meeting

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'cause it was a regular meeting, so,

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but we can still vote on it as amended.

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All in favor, Kevin? Aye. Julie, aye. Aye.

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For myself, Mike. Aye Mel Aye.

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Minutes for 8 12 26.

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- Make the same motion to approve the minutes from

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Regular business meeting and,

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Will second. All in favor, Kevin? Aye. Julie? Aye.

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Aye. Myself, Mike. Aye Mel. Aye.

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Superintendent's report?

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- Yes. Good evening everybody.

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It's great to be back in the school year

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and it's a beautiful weather that we're having.

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We are all in session now. Our preschool is, has joined us.

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Everything really went well.

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It's, it's really, you know, very

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emotional when kindergarten and preschoolers come.

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Parents are saying, I think they're saying

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we're so glad that our children are starting this journey,

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but we're also saying maybe we've got some time on our hands

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in a different way in our lives.

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So, but it's part of that journey when you're a parent

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and we love being part of that.

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And we were fortunate, we did hire a new preschool teacher

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who was able to start and join us on the,

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the initial meeting, the meet and greet last Thursday.

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So she was here for Tuesdays start of preschool.

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So that was great. We just hired a librarian today,

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or in the process of hiring a librarian,

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media center teacher for here.

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So I'm gonna say we're about 97% hired,

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which is pretty, pretty good.

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We are a hundred percent hired.

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Really, I'll go with 98% hired than our paras.

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We have, we have no para positions open

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that are right now student connected.

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In other words, there, there was a change in, in the student

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educational plan over the summer and what have you.

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So, so we're, we're really in, in good shape with,

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with hiring and staffing, which helps start the new year.

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So. Well, and I just on that note, I didn't put it on here.

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I really should have because it's something

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everybody should be proud of.

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We initiated our cell phone policy this

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start of this new school year,

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and it is gone extremely, extremely well.

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Our kids are doing a beautiful, beautiful job

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managing their, their use of the phones

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and teachers are noticing it and appreciating it.

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So kudos to you for, for taking that step.

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I don't know, I've only seen cursory media reports,

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that the actual law that is supposed to be passed this fall

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is still in committee

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and there's questions about whether or not it'll get passed.

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So, so we're avantgarde there. Yes. Which is great.

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But our, our, I think it's best for our kids, what we did.

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So, so, so pleased with how everybody is doing that.

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bathrooms that people were

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excited about later in our agenda.

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We are starting off the school year on solid

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financial footing.

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We've got, we're, we're in good shape financially

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with some good hires that,

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that are also financially supportive of our budget,

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which is great.

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And at the moment, again, we have a couple of positions

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that we don't need to fill right away,

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but as always, every day is a new possibility

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and a new story that has to come to be.

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But so we're, we're taking a look at that very carefully.

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I did talk to Mr. P about diesel fuel,

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obviously that price is rising

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and we do have an escalation clause in our contract.

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Fortunately again, our bid came up slightly under

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what we budgeted for

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because the timing of of the bidding process was later

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and we'd already passed our budget.

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So he's not concerned right now.

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And let's hope that there are opportunities

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for that event to be winding down.

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And so our, our fees

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for diesel fuel will be coming down soon.

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We've started up with Parents Square,

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which is our new messaging platform for everybody.

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It's for our teachers, it's for our administration, for me,

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it's for our coaches.

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And again, that's started off well.

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And so we're, we've got good use parents.

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I get the dashboard and see the use.

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or it's like 96% of the parents

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who have signed up are accessing our

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posts, which is great news.

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We don't quite have a hundred percent of our, our parents on

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yet, but we're working on that.

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We we're pretty close. So that's, that's great news.

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And again, because it's it's district wide, we're,

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we have a learning curve on our use of that so

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that we don't innovate parents

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with the same messages multiple times.

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out of the, the district office, that's a message

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that includes something about one or all three schools.

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to d duplicate that

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because we don't want people to be hit

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multiple times with the same messaging.

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and figuring out our own standard operating procedure

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around using it as well as media people now.

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So, but I hope people are enjoying that.

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What's nice about that particular platform is all

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of our posts there go directly to Facebook.

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So it's a, it's an efficient use of time and energy.

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she does not use Facebook, but she uses Parent Square.

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So you know, she's getting what she, you know, wants to hear

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about and see in terms of pictures.

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So, which is great.

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Last Friday I had the opportunity to meet

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with the commissioner along with my colleagues in,

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in western Massachusetts,

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in the Connecticut Valley Superintendents Association.

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It's a, it's always good

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to have the commissioner come out in and hear from us.

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Lauren from us, he's from,

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I think he's originally from Chicago area.

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And so, you know, he, he has a learning curve of this.

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He's entering his second year full year

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of commissioner position.

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we've talked a lot about everything from obviously finances,

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transportation is a big piece.

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He has a, a very strong vision for

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teacher recruitment, which is great.

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And, and we are very supportive of that.

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'cause that's obviously something we support immensely.

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it's not only teacher recruitment at the, at the end

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of the pipeline that is after they graduate,

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but it's, it's teacher recruitment to go into the programs,

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you know, to make the programs attractive

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and to figure that out along the way.

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But also, one of the things that we brought up as a, a,

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a concern, and it's, I I, to be honest, I don't know

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that he started this, but Desi, department of Elementary

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and Secondary Education has started this practice when,

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when they award grants

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and we were very fortunate to, in two years in a row,

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get a pretty sizable, what they call PRISM grant

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for literacy first for four through six

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and now for pre-K through three.

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And it's very exciting. And you,

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and you see the big number, you know, you see

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that we're gonna get $300,000 for a grant.

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It sounds great, but they've already committed out of

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that $300,000, almost $160,000

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to the professionals that they want us to work with

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in the PD process.

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So it's very, it's misleading in some respects.

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It's still wonderful. The PD is great.

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We, we've enjoyed our collaboration

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and it's going to, we believe it'll be the same partner

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for the pre-K through three work that we have to do.

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But, you know, we made the pitch to the commissioner

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that, first of all, we have very, very talented

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collaboratives in the area with talented professional

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development units as part of that.

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And it would be financially beneficial to all of us

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if they employed them as our professional development

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staffers as opposed to going outside these,

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these are often out of state organizations that,

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that come to work for them.

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He is o obviously already committed

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because these contracts go out months in advance.

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But that's something also that we talked about with him.

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We were closed for, for the Labor day.

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And we will be having some activities within the schools

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for nine 11 as well, honoring those that we lost on on

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that day and that were impacted as we all were in some way.

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But in each of the schools, all

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of our sports teams are fully

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not staffed, but fully enrolled,

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rostered enrolled I guess.

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So they are able to play safely, which is good.

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I think golf was the only one that, that is a little

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low on, on enrollment, but it's able to field a team.

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So that's, that's great. We, we love that

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the chiller is operational for testing purposes.

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We, we have tested it. We tested it last week.

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There's some, still some control

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work that they're working on.

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I did get a text yesterday that the,

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the full on on is gonna be Monday.

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So we'll, we'll see about that.

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And I, I did,

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I don't know if I made this more public than it is.

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I did ask after everything was already done and so forth,

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but I said, you know, the work

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that you're doing is right here above us over the kitchen.

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Can't we just figure out a way

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to pipe the chillers that are there?

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All those, the, the chillers themselves are,

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or the, the, I'm not using this right terminology,

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but the equipment

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to make the water cold is above the kitchen.

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And I said, can't we just put some kind of vent and blower

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and put air conditioning into our, our kitchen

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and in into our cafeteria,

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because that's a widely used space

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for two, three hours a day.

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And on these shoulder days where it's really hot,

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it's really a tough time to be in there, especially

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with the kitchen ovens and so forth.

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Well, as to no to no one surprise,

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I got an engineering lesson about

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how, why that could not happen.

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So, but I asked,

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but we're looking forward to

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that coming on this, this coming week.

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We, we did have considerable rain last week

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and we did have consider considerable leakage.

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We, we have a proposal from a firm that's gonna come in

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and try to do, do one side of the skylight where we,

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we know there are existing leaks,

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but when it was inspected last

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- The skylight at SK - Skylight and SK Okay.

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When it was inspected by this firm, you know, he,

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he basically said, you know, and,

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and which makes perfect sense, it's built in 1974,

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the all the caulking is shot.

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And so these leaks are coming in from the caulking.

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There's no cracked pans or anything damaged to the Oh wow.

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Glass. So, so we're going, we're, we know

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where there are leaks coming

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and so we're, we're going to enter into an agreement

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to just fix one, one facade of the,

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it's a four, it's a triangle.

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So there's four facades.

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And and we'll see how that works, you know,

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for at least those leaks.

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But we, we have to try something.

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I mean, it's pretty, the, the middle school, the leaks are,

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are more complicated

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because it's not as easy as, like with SMK, we know

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where they are with the middle school

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and here too, with the, the few

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that we have here in this building,

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we don't know where they're starting.

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You know, they're, they're travelers.

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So it, it could be, there's a, a leak in a, a drain pipe

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or a backlog drain pipe.

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It could be that there's a leak over here in the membrane,

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but it's, you know, traveling over here

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because it's just enough of a pitch to come over here.

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So to actually find the,

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the hole is really a needle in a haystack.

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And so, which is why the whole roof needs to be done.

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And there's certainly enough leaks

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that the whole roof needs to be done.

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And you'll see that on our capital plan.

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And, and so the capital plan is in your packet,

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there is a capital plan committee for the town.

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At some point I would like to go

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with representatives from this body

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and go and talk with them.

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We will be putting together

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a this year proposal.

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I understand there'll be a town meeting maybe in November.

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That's what they were talking about.

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And so we hope to have at least a,

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a roof replacement at W-I-M-S-A generated replacement at,

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at SMKA as the two top

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items that need to be done.

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And, and so we'll keep you updated on that.

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And that's my report this evening. Any questions, comments?

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- I know we hired a new athletic director. Yes.

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Is there any way that that person could be

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invited to our next meeting? Just so can

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- Meet.

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Oh, of course. Yeah. He's just,

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- What is his name again?

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Peter Millett. Peter Millet

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- Doing a great job and just overwhelmed,

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but, you know, trying to be at all these events

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first part of the year.

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But yeah, I'll get 'em there. Okay. Yeah,

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- I'm just looking real quick.

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I think I'm good.

331
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- Everybody else? Good? Alright, let's move on

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to New Business Lions Club donation.

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$300 to the food pantry.

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- Yes. So any donations to the school district need to be

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approved by the school committee.

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This is significant and very gracious of them.

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We have a food pantry that we run out of our legal classroom

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classrooms and downstairs it's a, a great resource

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for our students and families who are in need.

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And this was a great kickoff amount to buy product.

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So we're very appreciative.

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- How is the food pantry funded

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and not funded is probably not the right word.

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How is it replenished?

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- So it's really all through donations.

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So, you know, when when product gets low enough,

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the teacher puts out an all call, you know, to staff

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or any families, you know, any extra food product

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that you have, you know, please donate.

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And it, it gets donated.

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- Donated. Now, is there a list

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that they would prefer to go by? Good question. I, I

353
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- Don't, I don't, I I think there is, I don't know where

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that it lives.

355
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Okay. But I could find that for you.

356
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- Could we put that online on Sure. Website if it exists.

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Sure. So that if anybody's interested in donating,

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they're not donating like perishable goods.

359
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I mean Yeah.

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Perishable goods that, you know, we, it's difficult

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for us to keep like Right.

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Fresh, fresh vegetables and stuff. Right. Right.

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And they're not donating, you know, something

364
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that needs like five different ingredients Yeah.

365
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To put in it. And that way it's more difficult for someone,

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you know, you just have to add milk or add water.

367
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Right. And an egg that's a lot easier than spices coming up

368
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and everything with different other things.

369
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Yeah. So, 'cause it probably, I'm not gonna say it,

370
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probably it, it probably gets, yeah,

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probably it gets used probably more than we think.

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Oh. And I think if it was,

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if more people could donate to it, I, I think it would,

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it would help probably a lot more, more people.

375
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- I totally agree. Totally agree.

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- So I'll make the motion to accept the Lion Club donation.

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$300 to the food pantry. Now it was cash then, right?

378
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- Gift card. - Yes. Gift card. Okay. Do we have a second?

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Second. Any discussion? Any questions?

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All in favor, Kevin. Aye. Julie, aye. Aye. For myself, Mike.

381
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Aye Mel. Aye. Thank them for us. Yes, will do. Immensely.

382
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Policy first reading tonight. We had a policy meeting.

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Before this meeting. We went over

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protect act, AI use in schools.

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Did we do technology use in schools?

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- That was part of the, - That was part of the ai. Yeah.

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And we also did the employment of school

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and district administrators.

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Basically we accepted the subcommittee, accepted the

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interacting with law enforcement officers engaged in civil

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law enforcement, protect that.

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We accept it as written.

393
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It's been before legal and they made changes to it.

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So what you received

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is the final copy.

396
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It it is required by law. It is required by the state.

397
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It's not necessarily just a federal law. It's a state law.

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And this is the working

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with the administration and legal.

400
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This is what they've come up with for our procedure.

401
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Everybody has to have a procedure on

402
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what they call the Protect app.

403
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And this applies to all organizations.

404
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It's not just ice, it's everybody. Yeah.

405
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Who would, who would come looking to

406
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and other schools and interact

407
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with the school department.

408
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Is there any questions?

409
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- J And just to clarify, you, if you approve this

410
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as a first reading, we can approve it at our next meeting.

411
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Finally as the final reading.

412
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This is the policy and the procedures, it's

413
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- Together. So itll go

414
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- Into both the policy manual and the procedural

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- Manual.

416
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- Right. - This is also a totally new policy.

417
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- This is totally new. Yeah. - We haven't had this before.

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- We had guidance last year Right. On Desi.

419
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But this year we haven't closed.

420
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- It also aligns with the MASE

421
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margin. So everything matches.

422
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- Yes. Yes.

423
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Alright. So we will,

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we will, this is the first reading.

425
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We will vote on this in the next meeting.

426
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We will vote on it again to finalize making it a

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policy for the way of school system.

428
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Do we have a motion?

429
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- I have a question about if this

430
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extends itself to when the kids are traveling on a

431
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bus to and from

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- School. It would.

433
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- Okay. - Yeah. Whenever they're in our custody or care.

434
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Okay.

435
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- I will make the motion to accept protect, act.

436
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This is the first reading. Do we have a second?

437
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A second. Any more discussion questions?

438
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All in favor, Kevin? Aye. Julian. Aye. Aye.

439
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For myself, Mike. Aye Mel Aye.

440
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AI use in schools? We went through that.

441
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Mike has to, we do it. Tweak it. Yeah.

442
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There, there, there was some concerns.

443
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There was several different ways to approach AI

444
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and he needs

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to give some more important administrators

446
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and the teachers need to give some more based on

447
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what we were discussing today.

448
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So that one is not for a vote

449
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or first reading, since we don't have

450
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what was sent out is draft definitely gonna change.

451
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It was a draft, definitely gonna change progress.

452
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It's a work in progress. Technology use in schools

453
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is also part of that.

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And so that will be coming

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probably to the next meeting, probably a

456
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meeting or two after that.

457
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Only because it is quite extensive.

458
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If you looked at the original one that came out

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that is quite long sort of has to be in a sense

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to cover a lot of different areas

461
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and especially the use of technology.

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It needs to update our use of technology

463
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and what is good and what is bad.

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And so those are, those will be forthcoming.

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But those are works in progress.

466
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There is one employment of school

467
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and district administrators that's not on here,

468
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but it was on, I think it was on the original,

469
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it was on our original policy.

470
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Original. It was on the subcommittee that was sent out.

471
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I believe everybody has that. The cross offs are on there.

472
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And then the, the reds are

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additions and we

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as a subcommittee, we approve with this.

475
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The way it is written, basically it clears up,

476
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correct me if I'm wrong, so not

477
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so much the hiring process, right.

478
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As opposed to what happens after they've been hired.

479
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Correct. When it comes to, they've worked here

480
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for three years or two years, whatever it is,

481
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and it comes up for their,

482
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the contract comes up and renewal.

483
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It was kind of foggy as to where did we get involved

484
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with school committee, when did we approve, didn't improve.

485
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It alluded to being able to approve principal contracts.

486
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And apparently according to the law, we can't. Right.

487
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That is not in our wheelhouse.

488
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And so the next to the last paragraph

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that talks about the length of second

490
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and subsequential contracts of employment

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for administrators shall be in

492
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accordance with the state law.

493
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I guess there was a few things

494
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that we weren't doing completely by state law.

495
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And so the changes in the language here

496
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will put us in compliance with state law

497
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and also is a little more clear as to

498
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our involvement as the school committee.

499
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We, we still approve the director of special needs.

500
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We still approve the,

501
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the business manager

502
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and we still approve the nurses.

503
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Right.

504
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- I'm sorry, what was - That? The nurses, that's so

505
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the initial, we approve the initial, I believe the initial,

506
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but then after that, yes.

507
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Under your,

508
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- There's old law that never got changed with

509
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the change in 1993.

510
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In fact. Yeah. So at the state level,

511
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but yes, you do technically approve the

512
00:27:54,033 --> 00:27:55,000
hiring of nurses. Yeah.

513
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:58,700
- But after that it's falls under the superintendent to

514
00:27:59,734 --> 00:28:01,300
administer contracts and,

515
00:28:03,634 --> 00:28:05,900
and terms and everything else.

516
00:28:10,133 --> 00:28:14,767
This allows us to, in some cases

517
00:28:19,266 --> 00:28:21,767
say over, I, I would look at overriding

518
00:28:21,767 --> 00:28:25,634
and say financials that we could set that, you know,

519
00:28:27,433 --> 00:28:29,834
tie it to say the

520
00:28:29,834 --> 00:28:31,133
teacher's contract or tie it to something else.

521
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:36,033
It, it allows us to, to do that in case we want

522
00:28:36,033 --> 00:28:37,100
to change things.

523
00:28:37,634 --> 00:28:40,767
As far as the amount that goes out.

524
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,734
We tightened up on the piece that basically said, you know,

525
00:28:45,834 --> 00:28:50,066
as long as it fit the budget, if that's no longer, you know,

526
00:28:50,166 --> 00:28:55,000
'cause then you could, the, once the people

527
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,667
that had contracts, like the teachers

528
00:28:56,667 --> 00:28:59,634
and so forth would be tied to what the agreement was.

529
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,567
But it would allow you

530
00:29:01,567 --> 00:29:03,133
to do whatever you wanted for everybody else.

531
00:29:03,834 --> 00:29:07,233
And so that's sort of been pulled in so that it,

532
00:29:07,266 --> 00:29:09,233
it's a much more equal and fair playing field.

533
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:15,133
So we look

534
00:29:15,133 --> 00:29:18,734
to make this the first reading and the changes.

535
00:29:19,066 --> 00:29:22,667
And also to approve this tonight, since what was sent out,

536
00:29:24,066 --> 00:29:25,667
we didn't change in the subcommittee.

537
00:29:26,834 --> 00:29:31,467
We looked at it and agreed to the language that was there.

538
00:29:34,066 --> 00:29:35,100
Any questions? Any comments?

539
00:29:35,734 --> 00:29:37,634
- You have one question On the first paragraph,

540
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,634
the last sentence, it says the compensation benefit levels

541
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:44,834
above reference may be exceeded only with the approval

542
00:29:44,867 --> 00:29:47,266
of the school committee exceeded.

543
00:29:47,634 --> 00:29:51,100
In terms of comparing it to what is there like a baseline?

544
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,233
- So for example, this past last year,

545
00:29:56,467 --> 00:29:59,634
I did a market analysis for the director's salaries.

546
00:30:00,066 --> 00:30:02,934
And because the contracts hadn't been

547
00:30:02,934 --> 00:30:04,100
set yet when I arrived.

548
00:30:04,133 --> 00:30:09,033
So they were slightly above what was budgeted in,

549
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,767
in their lines, not the overall

550
00:30:10,767 --> 00:30:11,767
- Budget.

551
00:30:11,767 --> 00:30:12,100
So they exceeded what

552
00:30:12,166 --> 00:30:14,133
reference directly to what was budgeted. Budgeted.

553
00:30:14,133 --> 00:30:15,667
- Yeah. - And that's kind of a number

554
00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:17,133
that comes from a market analysis.

555
00:30:17,133 --> 00:30:18,734
Right. Okay. Right. Thank you.

556
00:30:22,467 --> 00:30:26,667
- Is there any language in here about evaluations

557
00:30:27,133 --> 00:30:30,100
and under what circumstances a contract might be

558
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:31,100
renewed versus not,

559
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,533
- So - And does that need to be in here?

560
00:30:34,734 --> 00:30:37,433
- So there's a separate evaluation policy that describes

561
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,133
how all administrators get evaluated.

562
00:30:41,634 --> 00:30:44,166
Again, it's all, it's all about the trust and

563
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:47,166
and relationship that you have with your superintendent

564
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:49,166
in terms of, because he

565
00:30:49,166 --> 00:30:51,567
or she makes the recommendation that they are

566
00:30:51,667 --> 00:30:53,100
to be renewed or not renewed.

567
00:30:54,166 --> 00:30:58,266
So again, that, that part

568
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:00,767
of the process is often

569
00:31:01,734 --> 00:31:04,767
between the evaluator and the at

570
00:31:06,033 --> 00:31:10,100
and usually never even arises to the school committee level

571
00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:12,033
because that decision's been made.

572
00:31:12,066 --> 00:31:14,900
And to honor the professionalism of,

573
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,500
of the individuals involved.

574
00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:22,734
It's private, you know, the person resigns or, or,

575
00:31:22,834 --> 00:31:26,133
or leaves, you know, under some circumstance.

576
00:31:27,467 --> 00:31:32,033
So, you know, I, I wouldn't put anything in policy per se

577
00:31:32,567 --> 00:31:34,734
that's different than what's in the evaluation policy.

578
00:31:34,734 --> 00:31:37,500
And I can share that with you when I get a chance.

579
00:31:38,467 --> 00:31:40,300
But the evaluation policy is pretty clear

580
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:42,000
that everybody has to be evaluated.

581
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,467
It has to be recommended by the superintendent for renewal

582
00:31:45,667 --> 00:31:48,300
or, or additional contract years and so forth.

583
00:31:49,133 --> 00:31:51,266
- Yeah, I guess the, I guess the only language I would be

584
00:31:51,266 --> 00:31:54,533
looking for is that like a contract couldn't be renewed

585
00:31:54,533 --> 00:31:56,066
unless an evaluation was done.

586
00:31:57,066 --> 00:31:59,100
I guess that's the only thing I'm kind of looking for

587
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:01,066
because I know that in the past that has been an issue

588
00:32:02,033 --> 00:32:04,934
and people were just renewing contracts

589
00:32:05,066 --> 00:32:07,834
and without evaluations being done.

590
00:32:08,066 --> 00:32:10,000
Okay. I mean,

591
00:32:10,467 --> 00:32:13,100
and again, I don't, I agree with you

592
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:15,066
that we shouldn't be privy to those evaluations.

593
00:32:15,066 --> 00:32:17,033
Yeah. But just that one was done. Yeah.

594
00:32:18,033 --> 00:32:20,066
- I, I'll have to reread it to see if

595
00:32:20,066 --> 00:32:22,033
that specific kind of language is there.

596
00:32:22,333 --> 00:32:24,367
I mean, again, because the,

597
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:26,233
the policy does state specifically

598
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:27,567
evaluations have to be done.

599
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,300
Okay. If they, if any individual didn't evaluate

600
00:32:32,433 --> 00:32:35,533
and still made a recommendation to have a new contract,

601
00:32:35,734 --> 00:32:37,233
that is a violation of policy.

602
00:32:37,667 --> 00:32:39,500
- Okay. Okay. Yeah.

603
00:32:39,934 --> 00:32:41,000
- As far as this, that would be

604
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,033
covered in the last paragraph.

605
00:32:42,133 --> 00:32:45,100
If that policy says everybody gets an evaluation,

606
00:32:45,533 --> 00:32:48,000
then in the last paragraph as a condition of employment,

607
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,567
each administrator must maintain curtain certifications

608
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:52,834
as needed, adhere to policies

609
00:32:52,834 --> 00:32:53,867
and goals of the school committee.

610
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:57,000
Right. So the policy for evaluations Okay.

611
00:32:57,133 --> 00:32:59,066
Would cover that language there.

612
00:32:59,166 --> 00:33:03,567
That that would be something that had to be done. Right.

613
00:33:04,333 --> 00:33:09,166
Okay. Now the, I'll just throw this out.

614
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,834
The only evaluation that's public is the superintendents.

615
00:33:13,066 --> 00:33:15,367
Yes. That is done in public. Oh,

616
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:16,500
- I remember.

617
00:33:18,533 --> 00:33:21,100
I mean, I wasn't here, I was over there, but I remember

618
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,000
- Yes.

619
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,500
And I read that one. That was a long night.

620
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,567
But his is the only one that is public.

621
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:31,233
That is done in public. And so

622
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:35,433
that, that one is not private.

623
00:33:35,834 --> 00:33:40,567
Right. So that

624
00:33:40,567 --> 00:33:44,834
being said, I'll make the motion

625
00:33:45,133 --> 00:33:48,300
to approve first reading employment of school

626
00:33:48,333 --> 00:33:50,066
and district administrators the changes

627
00:33:50,133 --> 00:33:53,000
that are being proposed. Do we have a second?

628
00:33:53,867 --> 00:33:57,133
- Second? - Any questions? Any discussion? More?

629
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:04,100
All in favor, Kevin? Aye. Julie. Aye. Aye. For myself, Mike.

630
00:34:04,667 --> 00:34:06,066
Aye Mel. Aye.

631
00:34:12,233 --> 00:34:14,700
Now we'll move on to Capital Plan review.

632
00:34:18,133 --> 00:34:20,033
- Do you have that in your - Packet? Yes, we do.

633
00:34:20,166 --> 00:34:22,500
- Okay. I got extra copies of Okay.

634
00:34:24,033 --> 00:34:25,500
- Sure. Believe everybody does. Yep. Yep.

635
00:34:26,634 --> 00:34:30,567
- So to be clear, this is a rough draft,

636
00:34:31,634 --> 00:34:35,100
but all the administrators, director

637
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:39,467
of facilities, Mr.

638
00:34:39,834 --> 00:34:42,100
Ette, we've, we've pulled this together

639
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:47,834
partly because I've been talking about this almost

640
00:34:47,834 --> 00:34:49,000
since I met, got here.

641
00:34:49,033 --> 00:34:51,834
But, but we talked about this at our, our

642
00:34:52,433 --> 00:34:55,066
walk walkthrough and so forth.

643
00:34:56,634 --> 00:35:00,567
You know, there, these are not out of the ordinary kinds

644
00:35:00,567 --> 00:35:02,900
of things that school districts

645
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:06,033
or any large organizations need to costs out.

646
00:35:06,734 --> 00:35:10,367
There are things on here that I typically have advocated

647
00:35:10,367 --> 00:35:14,133
for things to be put on there, like usually a, a school.

648
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:17,333
And what I like to do in a school district is have a,

649
00:35:17,567 --> 00:35:21,500
like a, a carpet replacement plan for classrooms

650
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:23,867
that are carpeted or tiled or whatever, you know, that.

651
00:35:23,934 --> 00:35:26,033
So every 10 on a cycle of 10 years,

652
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,500
we're doing a certain number of rooms every year that,

653
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,133
that we have a, a furniture replacement plan.

654
00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:35,300
So again, you're not one year spending a hundred thousand

655
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:36,533
dollars on, on furniture

656
00:35:36,533 --> 00:35:38,133
and the next year you're not spending anything.

657
00:35:38,567 --> 00:35:40,100
So that, you know, everything gets in balance

658
00:35:40,166 --> 00:35:41,233
and you can plan for it.

659
00:35:41,233 --> 00:35:42,834
And it's thoughtful in that regard.

660
00:35:43,033 --> 00:35:46,266
I did not do that in here because it hasn't been done here.

661
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:49,567
And, and also the numbers felt very large to me,

662
00:35:51,133 --> 00:35:54,634
but so, so I did not do that.

663
00:35:54,734 --> 00:35:56,634
So that's a piece of the puzzle

664
00:35:56,734 --> 00:35:59,533
that if you'd like those kinds of things to be looked at,

665
00:35:59,667 --> 00:36:03,066
we could, we could actually add that those items

666
00:36:04,033 --> 00:36:07,066
technically we could put into our budget as well,

667
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:09,000
even though they meet the threshold

668
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,333
for financing on a capital plan.

669
00:36:11,266 --> 00:36:14,533
So I'd, I'd want to talk with the town about

670
00:36:14,533 --> 00:36:16,333
that when we meet.

671
00:36:17,333 --> 00:36:19,233
But we obviously do have some very big

672
00:36:19,734 --> 00:36:20,867
expenses on the horizon.

673
00:36:21,333 --> 00:36:24,033
The roofs, as I spoke to have to get done.

674
00:36:25,033 --> 00:36:27,767
We do, we absolutely have to replace the generator.

675
00:36:27,767 --> 00:36:29,634
It simply is it, it no longer functions.

676
00:36:31,033 --> 00:36:35,233
These are estimates for the roofs, estimates

677
00:36:36,133 --> 00:36:38,066
from, from quotes.

678
00:36:38,333 --> 00:36:42,834
So I think they're pretty good as far as, you know,

679
00:36:42,834 --> 00:36:47,333
real numbers and you know,

680
00:36:47,367 --> 00:36:52,000
things like putting in a sprinkler system.

681
00:36:52,133 --> 00:36:53,834
We're not gonna put in a sprinkler system.

682
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,100
I I know people would love to have a sprinkler system.

683
00:36:56,166 --> 00:36:57,867
You're not gonna put in a sprinkler system.

684
00:36:58,033 --> 00:37:01,033
I mean Oh, I thought you meant like a fire sprinkler system.

685
00:37:01,033 --> 00:37:02,300
Oh, that's, do you mean like in the grass?

686
00:37:02,734 --> 00:37:04,834
No, no, in a fire. Yeah. Gotcha.

687
00:37:05,433 --> 00:37:09,033
It, it just isn't gonna happen as a separate add-on. Okay.

688
00:37:09,266 --> 00:37:10,634
It's so expensive to do.

689
00:37:10,767 --> 00:37:12,066
I mean, that's a very rough estimate.

690
00:37:12,934 --> 00:37:15,367
I don't think we would do the whole building for $500,000.

691
00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:16,767
It just, it just wouldn't happen.

692
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:19,300
But, you know, I honor the process that it's there.

693
00:37:19,467 --> 00:37:21,700
I want you to be aware that our buildings are not sprinkled

694
00:37:22,367 --> 00:37:24,266
and that's certainly a concern of everybody's.

695
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:25,934
I know. And,

696
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:29,100
and it would help our insurance costs and, and so forth.

697
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,100
And obviously first

698
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:33,834
and foremost safety, if the, if we ever got into a a,

699
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:35,100
a fire situation,

700
00:37:36,667 --> 00:37:40,467
but, you know, we, we make sure that all of our furniture

701
00:37:40,467 --> 00:37:42,033
that we buy that has fabric is,

702
00:37:42,033 --> 00:37:44,834
is rated appropriately and so forth.

703
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,100
And in fact we just made some teachers remove things

704
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,000
that were not graded and so forth.

705
00:37:50,433 --> 00:37:53,934
So, you know, I think we do our best to make sure

706
00:37:53,934 --> 00:37:57,700
that what's in the buildings is, is going to slow

707
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:00,066
any kind of fire.

708
00:38:00,867 --> 00:38:02,233
It's not gonna, obviously put it out.

709
00:38:03,567 --> 00:38:07,266
If you wanted to consider a sprinkler system to me,

710
00:38:07,667 --> 00:38:11,000
I would start advocating that we're gonna rebuild,

711
00:38:12,133 --> 00:38:15,033
have a plan for building a new school or a new addition

712
00:38:15,266 --> 00:38:17,567
because that's only gonna come

713
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:22,066
to fruition if we do something that goes above the code for

714
00:38:24,166 --> 00:38:26,700
cost or square footage and,

715
00:38:26,767 --> 00:38:29,000
and then having to put in a, a sprinkler.

716
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,634
Yeah. You know, it's gonna be part of a project

717
00:38:32,033 --> 00:38:35,266
and you know, that we could have some

718
00:38:35,266 --> 00:38:36,767
conversations about that at some point.

719
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,033
But it, but it's on here

720
00:38:39,767 --> 00:38:42,700
because it's, it's wanted and, and it's valid.

721
00:38:43,233 --> 00:38:46,000
And I, I honor that, that desire.

722
00:38:46,667 --> 00:38:49,333
It's just a religiously expensive to do. Is

723
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:52,100
- That a concern on a specific school or all three schools

724
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:55,100
- Suppression system?

725
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:58,333
We, we have them here somewhere. I see, I see.

726
00:38:58,333 --> 00:39:00,100
Though we have them here,

727
00:39:01,066 --> 00:39:03,133
but they don't, we don't have it in the middle school

728
00:39:03,166 --> 00:39:04,266
or, or SMK.

729
00:39:04,266 --> 00:39:05,700
So it's just that, those two schools.

730
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,000
But you know, again, it, it would be

731
00:39:13,834 --> 00:39:18,667
SMK in, in my non-engineering opinion,

732
00:39:19,433 --> 00:39:22,634
you know, the safety of that building is,

733
00:39:22,767 --> 00:39:26,033
is very good in the sense that every room has a means

734
00:39:26,033 --> 00:39:27,266
of egress to the outside.

735
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,634
Not to just another hallway, but to the outside.

736
00:39:31,033 --> 00:39:35,033
So to me that's almost as good as,

737
00:39:36,133 --> 00:39:37,033
I shouldn't say that publicly.

738
00:39:38,634 --> 00:39:40,533
It's great. It's very good. It's very good. It's very

739
00:39:40,533 --> 00:39:41,533
- Good.

740
00:39:41,533 --> 00:39:42,033
You took the words outta my mouth.

741
00:39:42,033 --> 00:39:43,333
Common sense would tell you every

742
00:39:43,333 --> 00:39:44,867
classroom has a means of egress.

743
00:39:44,867 --> 00:39:47,033
Exactly. Right to the outside Exactly. Press to say no,

744
00:39:48,033 --> 00:39:49,033
- Knock it out.

745
00:39:49,033 --> 00:39:50,100
So, but then you get,

746
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,066
you have the middle school, which doesn't have that.

747
00:39:52,066 --> 00:39:54,100
Right. You know, all the classrooms get to a

748
00:39:54,467 --> 00:39:55,834
but it's also made of concrete.

749
00:39:56,133 --> 00:39:57,166
It is made of concrete,

750
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,166
which is helpful, you know, it's good.

751
00:39:59,266 --> 00:40:00,367
It's got those beautiful straw

752
00:40:00,367 --> 00:40:03,000
and floors, you know, which is certainly helpful.

753
00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:06,734
So it will definitely slow, slow things down and so forth.

754
00:40:07,033 --> 00:40:11,734
But, so, you know, it just, and,

755
00:40:11,734 --> 00:40:15,667
and the boiler room frankly is, is away from

756
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:18,700
the, the kids, which is really good.

757
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:23,233
So, you know, I think that that's, those are pluses,

758
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:28,367
but again, I just, I just don't think it's feasible

759
00:40:28,367 --> 00:40:29,767
to think about a sprinkler system

760
00:40:29,767 --> 00:40:30,900
unless you're gonna do a project,

761
00:40:31,367 --> 00:40:32,934
in which case it would be mandated.

762
00:40:33,367 --> 00:40:36,066
- Do you know the annual savings of what the insurance

763
00:40:36,667 --> 00:40:39,300
- Is charging us, - What we would pay otherwise?

764
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:40,533
- Yeah, I don't, I don't have that.

765
00:40:40,533 --> 00:40:43,133
- Can, can I get a return on your rent investment number?

766
00:40:43,133 --> 00:40:44,700
Yeah. Is it five years, 10 years

767
00:40:44,834 --> 00:40:46,900
and how much we'd have to spend it,

768
00:40:47,133 --> 00:40:48,066
- It would take a, - Because we're paying

769
00:40:48,066 --> 00:40:48,867
the insurance company

770
00:40:48,867 --> 00:40:49,867
- Anyway.

771
00:40:49,867 --> 00:40:51,266
Yeah, it would, it would, it would take a while.

772
00:40:51,734 --> 00:40:55,367
It really would. I I mean the, what what we would have is,

773
00:40:55,667 --> 00:40:58,734
is the return of that good feeling.

774
00:40:58,934 --> 00:41:00,634
Like, you know, we have the extra layer

775
00:41:00,634 --> 00:41:02,233
of protect protection for our students

776
00:41:03,133 --> 00:41:04,367
and faculty and staff.

777
00:41:04,867 --> 00:41:06,900
- Well you mentioned we're paying more for insurance

778
00:41:07,066 --> 00:41:08,166
because we do not have, well,

779
00:41:08,166 --> 00:41:09,934
- Our premium definitely looks different

780
00:41:09,934 --> 00:41:11,266
because we don't have sprinklers for

781
00:41:11,266 --> 00:41:13,000
that size building and so forth. Yeah,

782
00:41:13,033 --> 00:41:14,533
- I'd be curious to know - That number.

783
00:41:14,567 --> 00:41:15,700
Yeah. So,

784
00:41:18,266 --> 00:41:22,300
but so I I I wanted to share this with you tonight.

785
00:41:22,934 --> 00:41:24,567
Again, we're gonna, we're gonna go forward

786
00:41:24,667 --> 00:41:28,734
with more descriptive pages that we have to fill out

787
00:41:28,734 --> 00:41:31,367
for the capital planning committee for the town

788
00:41:32,166 --> 00:41:34,567
to get on the ballot or on the town meeting

789
00:41:35,767 --> 00:41:36,934
floor for November.

790
00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:40,367
Our, our priorities right now are the,

791
00:41:40,667 --> 00:41:45,033
the roof at WMS at the middle school, we're going to go

792
00:41:45,133 --> 00:41:49,333
for the, to the generator.

793
00:41:49,867 --> 00:41:52,533
And I, I've gotta talk a little bit more with Bill.

794
00:41:52,867 --> 00:41:56,233
We do have an, we have two aging pieces of equipment

795
00:41:56,233 --> 00:41:57,266
that are pretty expensive.

796
00:41:58,266 --> 00:42:00,700
A a dump truck, which,

797
00:42:04,066 --> 00:42:07,734
because it's used pretty much only for plowing

798
00:42:09,367 --> 00:42:13,700
and sitting, when it's not plowing and sanding and,

799
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:18,300
and salting it, it has rusted because of the salt.

800
00:42:19,667 --> 00:42:22,066
And so, and it sits.

801
00:42:22,233 --> 00:42:24,233
And so like, he just came to me the other day

802
00:42:24,233 --> 00:42:29,066
and said, I, he, he was shocked that the rear, rear wheels,

803
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,033
rear tires have have dried right out

804
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:34,734
because they haven't used it since the

805
00:42:34,734 --> 00:42:35,834
last snowstorm pretty much.

806
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,000
So these are some of the issues you have when you have

807
00:42:42,066 --> 00:42:46,767
sort of job or task specific kinds of equipment like this.

808
00:42:48,333 --> 00:42:50,233
So I gotta, I gotta talk

809
00:42:50,233 --> 00:42:52,000
to him about which he would prioritize

810
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,266
whether we would do that.

811
00:42:53,367 --> 00:42:56,367
That the dump truck

812
00:42:56,500 --> 00:43:01,000
or the mower, I put it down as a lease to spread it out.

813
00:43:01,066 --> 00:43:03,000
I don't know if the town does it that way here.

814
00:43:04,033 --> 00:43:06,867
Typically I would do a, a lease purchase agreement,

815
00:43:08,066 --> 00:43:10,467
but again, I don't know if the town wants to do it that way

816
00:43:10,467 --> 00:43:13,000
or if they wanna do a, a, a full on purchase,

817
00:43:13,166 --> 00:43:15,467
- How could we get a number on a lease purchase agreement?

818
00:43:15,934 --> 00:43:17,634
- What's that? - How could we get a number?

819
00:43:17,634 --> 00:43:19,266
Because a hundred thousand I'm gonna say

820
00:43:19,333 --> 00:43:20,867
is purchase the truck.

821
00:43:22,667 --> 00:43:27,634
- So Yes, but it's over those five years. Right.

822
00:43:27,834 --> 00:43:29,700
Or six years, whatever. I I spread it out.

823
00:43:29,834 --> 00:43:32,567
I, so it's, it's what we, what they put in their budget

824
00:43:32,867 --> 00:43:35,700
that, you know, the, the 20,000 to make that happen.

825
00:43:36,834 --> 00:43:38,834
So the, the, the cost

826
00:43:38,834 --> 00:43:41,133
of the truck is roughly about a hundred thousand when,

827
00:43:41,133 --> 00:43:44,000
when you get all the equipment that he's looking for.

828
00:43:44,166 --> 00:43:49,066
So, and then it, it's slightly more

829
00:43:49,066 --> 00:43:51,634
to lease it, do the lease purchase.

830
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:55,367
But it's, it's worth it in terms of, again,

831
00:43:55,734 --> 00:43:58,667
managing your budget because in their capital plan now

832
00:43:59,266 --> 00:44:02,533
they could put a piece of equipment every five years and,

833
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,433
and essentially have the money built in there without,

834
00:44:06,867 --> 00:44:08,634
you know, escalating their budget.

835
00:44:09,634 --> 00:44:11,133
So, but I I, I have to have

836
00:44:11,133 --> 00:44:12,467
that conversation with this committee.

837
00:44:12,634 --> 00:44:13,634
I don't know how they do that.

838
00:44:14,333 --> 00:44:18,934
Here again, I,

839
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:23,767
I know the, the mower broke down for a significant amount

840
00:44:23,767 --> 00:44:24,867
of time a few weeks ago

841
00:44:26,066 --> 00:44:27,700
and we had to rent one to replace it.

842
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:30,433
You know, they, they,

843
00:44:30,734 --> 00:44:34,033
equipment always breaks down when you need it, right.

844
00:44:34,367 --> 00:44:37,000
It's not when it's parked for the most part.

845
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,934
So I know he, he would like this to see that replaced.

846
00:44:43,834 --> 00:44:45,066
And again, because we, we,

847
00:44:45,634 --> 00:44:47,567
I mean our campus isn't terribly large.

848
00:44:48,066 --> 00:44:52,300
We only have really one major

849
00:44:52,734 --> 00:44:56,367
piece of mowing equipment for that purpose.

850
00:44:57,367 --> 00:45:02,233
And so when it goes, it also doubles as a snowblower.

851
00:45:02,333 --> 00:45:05,367
It does in the winter. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.

852
00:45:08,033 --> 00:45:12,033
So, and then, you know, the athletics, we've,

853
00:45:12,033 --> 00:45:13,367
we've put these on here.

854
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:18,166
Drainage is a big issue. Dugouts are a big issue.

855
00:45:19,734 --> 00:45:22,700
I I think lights would, would help us greatly.

856
00:45:24,066 --> 00:45:27,767
We just gotta figure out which ones to do and to do first.

857
00:45:29,066 --> 00:45:32,767
So lights were looking to do well, the,

858
00:45:33,634 --> 00:45:37,033
I would say the football has lights, football has lights.

859
00:45:37,133 --> 00:45:40,300
It's the only field that does, I would say we want

860
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:42,634
to do the upper field where we have soccer

861
00:45:42,867 --> 00:45:43,133
and

862
00:45:44,433 --> 00:45:48,033
baseball at some point.

863
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,033
And I, I was chastised about this and I'll own it

864
00:45:51,033 --> 00:45:52,266
because I'm not from where,

865
00:45:52,433 --> 00:45:57,300
but I, I always like my teams to play on my fields,

866
00:45:58,066 --> 00:46:02,533
but there's a lot of affinity for the town field

867
00:46:02,834 --> 00:46:06,300
and so they wanna stay there and I get that.

868
00:46:06,634 --> 00:46:08,166
I really do. And, and so,

869
00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:10,433
and now they have, they have lights and so,

870
00:46:10,734 --> 00:46:12,133
but, but we're limited.

871
00:46:12,867 --> 00:46:15,066
You know, I went to a a, a park, park

872
00:46:15,066 --> 00:46:16,300
and recs meeting last year.

873
00:46:16,634 --> 00:46:17,700
We're gonna be limited to

874
00:46:17,834 --> 00:46:20,100
how many night me night events we can have.

875
00:46:20,634 --> 00:46:24,500
So I think we've gotta understand

876
00:46:24,834 --> 00:46:26,033
that impact and whether

877
00:46:26,033 --> 00:46:30,867
or not that's how we wanna run our, our game schedule so

878
00:46:30,867 --> 00:46:35,266
that, you know, our varsity games can't be played there.

879
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:39,867
All of them at least. So,

880
00:46:41,266 --> 00:46:44,433
and you know, yes, it gets lighter.

881
00:46:44,634 --> 00:46:49,300
So do you need your lights? Well, I don't know.

882
00:46:50,033 --> 00:46:51,533
You know, that's, that's a good question.

883
00:46:52,166 --> 00:46:54,266
But there's also soccer. That's a soccer field.

884
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:56,166
So if we could position them in such a way

885
00:46:56,667 --> 00:47:00,233
and do our home varsity soccer there and,

886
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:04,066
and have night games there, I, I think that's, that's great.

887
00:47:04,266 --> 00:47:07,367
I mean that's a town event that's building up a,

888
00:47:08,667 --> 00:47:10,033
a repertoire of, you know,

889
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:12,033
what if we designed them so they would swivel.

890
00:47:12,533 --> 00:47:14,133
Well that's it. That, that's,

891
00:47:14,266 --> 00:47:15,734
I would love to see that happen.

892
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,533
You know, I, I've not seen that done yet,

893
00:47:18,867 --> 00:47:21,233
but I, I gotta believe that technology exists.

894
00:47:21,333 --> 00:47:23,300
It's gotta be there. You know, it's,

895
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:24,634
it's gotta, it's gotta be there.

896
00:47:25,433 --> 00:47:27,066
And I gotta believe that there's a way

897
00:47:27,133 --> 00:47:32,066
to involve solar somehow so that we could generate the power

898
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,100
on the same poles.

899
00:47:34,133 --> 00:47:35,634
That would be the lights.

900
00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:38,500
But again, we haven't looked into it that deep.

901
00:47:38,834 --> 00:47:41,000
So it is just, it's part of our dream.

902
00:47:42,934 --> 00:47:46,333
So, you know, that's there we would love to get,

903
00:47:46,867 --> 00:47:48,500
we've gotta get power out there.

904
00:47:49,066 --> 00:47:50,500
That's a big part of the issue.

905
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:53,834
Anyway, we'd like a scoreboard out there

906
00:47:56,166 --> 00:47:59,634
and we're gonna talk a little bit about the,

907
00:47:59,867 --> 00:48:02,000
the permanent bathrooms for the football field,

908
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,066
which would actually be available

909
00:48:04,066 --> 00:48:05,567
for the softball field too,

910
00:48:05,767 --> 00:48:08,567
where we're thinking about placing them so that,

911
00:48:08,634 --> 00:48:10,300
that's a, a two for one.

912
00:48:12,133 --> 00:48:16,367
And I, I think we actually can take the scoreboard off

913
00:48:16,367 --> 00:48:19,567
of the football field because they, there was a, an issue

914
00:48:19,567 --> 00:48:20,867
with it, with the,

915
00:48:24,634 --> 00:48:26,934
the board that manages it

916
00:48:27,133 --> 00:48:29,734
and they've been able to fix that.

917
00:48:29,934 --> 00:48:33,100
So I think that will actually come off this, this draft.

918
00:48:34,834 --> 00:48:38,333
So, and then for technology,

919
00:48:40,066 --> 00:48:44,100
the, the big thing at this point really is to

920
00:48:46,333 --> 00:48:49,100
keep and maintain our servers

921
00:48:50,433 --> 00:48:54,634
and then, which is that first 150,000.

922
00:48:55,066 --> 00:48:57,266
And then we have some work that we need

923
00:48:57,266 --> 00:48:59,066
to do in the auditorium

924
00:49:00,467 --> 00:49:04,166
around the lighting and the projector.

925
00:49:04,834 --> 00:49:09,500
The, the issue there for the lighting is that

926
00:49:10,533 --> 00:49:15,000
the, again, the control board is antiquated.

927
00:49:15,066 --> 00:49:17,000
I mean it was installed in 1998.

928
00:49:17,567 --> 00:49:20,000
So it, and there's much

929
00:49:20,934 --> 00:49:23,767
more efficient lights now that can be brighter

930
00:49:25,533 --> 00:49:28,767
and a board that could be more technologically

931
00:49:30,266 --> 00:49:34,500
efficient in terms of being able to be in the audience

932
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:37,000
and do it as opposed to being, you know, behind the scenes,

933
00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:40,233
all those kinds of things that needs to happen.

934
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,634
And so, and then just replacing our screen

935
00:49:44,667 --> 00:49:48,734
and the projector for that would be helpful as well.

936
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:53,133
So I, I don't think any of the items are out of,

937
00:49:53,266 --> 00:49:54,433
out of reach.

938
00:49:55,433 --> 00:49:57,233
We've just gotta be planful about 'em and,

939
00:49:57,266 --> 00:49:59,734
and manage people's

940
00:49:59,734 --> 00:50:01,166
expectations about when they're gonna happen.

941
00:50:04,667 --> 00:50:07,767
- I noticed for where junior senior high school,

942
00:50:07,767 --> 00:50:09,133
you've got the stair tread

943
00:50:09,133 --> 00:50:11,567
and floor treatment that we talked extensively

944
00:50:11,567 --> 00:50:12,734
about on the walkthrough.

945
00:50:13,734 --> 00:50:18,166
Is that 50,000 just the

946
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:19,500
portions we talked about?

947
00:50:19,634 --> 00:50:21,033
Or is that like everywhere

948
00:50:21,033 --> 00:50:23,133
that those circles are, they get replaced?

949
00:50:24,367 --> 00:50:27,367
- It's, it's mostly that 50,000 would

950
00:50:27,367 --> 00:50:28,834
mostly probably only cover.

951
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,500
And we did, we could make this decision as to whether

952
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:34,100
or not it's the stair treads

953
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:36,734
or the entryways at the lower level

954
00:50:37,033 --> 00:50:39,467
because that lower level, just

955
00:50:39,467 --> 00:50:42,000
because of where this building is built, gets a lot

956
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,233
of moisture that wicks right up

957
00:50:43,233 --> 00:50:46,700
and that tile is coming up all through that hallway.

958
00:50:47,567 --> 00:50:50,033
So we did a section of it I think a few years ago,

959
00:50:50,033 --> 00:50:52,467
maybe very successful.

960
00:50:52,467 --> 00:50:55,467
Looks great. So he would really like to see

961
00:50:55,467 --> 00:50:56,567
that whole hallway done.

962
00:50:57,467 --> 00:51:00,567
And then we would do the two main

963
00:51:02,266 --> 00:51:06,100
stairwells, stairwells that come up from there up up

964
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:08,066
to this, the eighth grade wing.

965
00:51:08,266 --> 00:51:09,266
Okay,

966
00:51:13,734 --> 00:51:18,367
- Now the roofs we are gonna work on the state program.

967
00:51:19,266 --> 00:51:24,033
- We are. So, so this is

968
00:51:24,667 --> 00:51:27,367
part of a, it's, it is gonna be a scheduling nightmare

969
00:51:28,033 --> 00:51:31,533
in terms of this because the,

970
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:35,734
if I understand the process that they've outlined in the,

971
00:51:37,266 --> 00:51:40,233
we would go to the accelerated repair projects

972
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,767
and they don't put those out,

973
00:51:43,934 --> 00:51:45,767
those applications out until January.

974
00:51:47,667 --> 00:51:52,333
And part of that is we need to do a study

975
00:51:54,033 --> 00:51:57,700
that informs how much of a roof needs to be done.

976
00:51:57,834 --> 00:51:59,567
You know, there needs to be some engineering work

977
00:51:59,567 --> 00:52:01,000
that needs to be done.

978
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,100
So part of the money that I would propose to raise

979
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,033
would be essentially doing the research

980
00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:13,567
that would need to be done, that engineering study

981
00:52:14,166 --> 00:52:16,734
and then whatever matching piece that we would have to do.

982
00:52:17,734 --> 00:52:19,133
I mean the state may come up

983
00:52:19,667 --> 00:52:21,100
and say we're gonna give you all of it,

984
00:52:21,133 --> 00:52:23,100
but I believe we are, excuse me,

985
00:52:23,033 --> 00:52:25,500
I think we're a 60% community.

986
00:52:26,934 --> 00:52:28,166
- I think that's what they mentioned last time.

987
00:52:29,066 --> 00:52:31,934
- So we would have to come up with at least 40% of the cost.

988
00:52:33,567 --> 00:52:37,033
So whatever if, if this is too much, obviously if the,

989
00:52:37,033 --> 00:52:39,500
if the voters vote for it, it just stays

990
00:52:40,033 --> 00:52:43,233
in their capital plan, it doesn't get spent on,

991
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:45,033
on another element of that.

992
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:49,700
But the, the town manages the capital plan, not the schools.

993
00:52:53,033 --> 00:52:55,300
- So is the research study like an independent firm

994
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:58,734
that comes out and validates the quotes that you have? And

995
00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:01,000
- It's, so I, I think it's even

996
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,033
before we, we generate the quotes.

997
00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:07,367
My recollection, the last time I did an accelerated repair,

998
00:53:09,233 --> 00:53:14,066
we had to do the engineering study to get the extent

999
00:53:14,166 --> 00:53:19,133
of what the damage was to the roof

1000
00:53:19,934 --> 00:53:24,100
and an estimate and some proposals

1001
00:53:24,467 --> 00:53:27,500
that the engineering firm said, you know, this is,

1002
00:53:27,867 --> 00:53:30,767
this is best practice, this is good practice, this is okay.

1003
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:34,500
Practice kind of thing. And then, you know, you breed that

1004
00:53:34,634 --> 00:53:38,333
to MB MSBA in terms of the application.

1005
00:53:38,867 --> 00:53:40,266
And then they, they come out

1006
00:53:40,333 --> 00:53:42,066
and they do their own engineering study

1007
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,233
and they will tell you whether

1008
00:53:44,233 --> 00:53:46,000
or not, you know, where they land

1009
00:53:46,734 --> 00:53:48,033
on it in terms of the priority.

1010
00:53:48,133 --> 00:53:52,333
'cause obviously there's 351 towns in the Commonwealth

1011
00:53:52,367 --> 00:53:54,567
and so everybody's looking for some support.

1012
00:53:55,066 --> 00:53:58,066
- Does that study include like a design, feasibility design,

1013
00:53:58,734 --> 00:53:59,934
what they recommend to fixing?

1014
00:53:59,934 --> 00:54:03,066
- It would be at some point? Yes. Not that part though.

1015
00:54:03,333 --> 00:54:04,934
I think that part would strictly be

1016
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:07,767
an understanding of what the damage is.

1017
00:54:07,767 --> 00:54:08,567
Would just say you need the whole roof,

1018
00:54:08,834 --> 00:54:10,066
you need this section of the roof.

1019
00:54:10,066 --> 00:54:12,500
Right. Like they just come out and say Yeah.

1020
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,066
Whether you actually need it or not

1021
00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:15,133
and how much you need. Correct.

1022
00:54:15,467 --> 00:54:17,033
- So you mentioned we had the quotes.

1023
00:54:17,033 --> 00:54:18,867
How long are those quotes valid for?

1024
00:54:20,467 --> 00:54:25,066
- I, I mean I think for us, I,

1025
00:54:25,266 --> 00:54:26,634
I wouldn't go longer than a year.

1026
00:54:28,767 --> 00:54:32,166
You know, I think that's gonna be, so if we,

1027
00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:37,033
so the town will have to make a decision, you know,

1028
00:54:37,033 --> 00:54:39,433
if this amount will actually cover the entire project

1029
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:41,367
based on that engineering study

1030
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:46,133
and we don't get MSBA support, the town would have

1031
00:54:46,133 --> 00:54:49,433
to probably have another vote to decide to go forward

1032
00:54:49,467 --> 00:54:52,100
with the actual doing it on our own

1033
00:54:53,133 --> 00:54:57,033
because that's a, a bigger commitment. You

1034
00:54:57,033 --> 00:54:58,100
- Might not be able to answer this,

1035
00:54:58,133 --> 00:55:00,900
but I see like the capital improvement plan, we,

1036
00:55:00,934 --> 00:55:02,667
we span out, we parse out 10 years.

1037
00:55:02,867 --> 00:55:05,100
Yeah. So I'm curious as to how long

1038
00:55:05,934 --> 00:55:08,634
have the roofs been on our capital improvement plan?

1039
00:55:10,133 --> 00:55:11,734
Is this the first year that they've,

1040
00:55:11,767 --> 00:55:14,100
or have they been sitting on this plan knowing

1041
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:15,233
that they're deteriorating?

1042
00:55:16,066 --> 00:55:18,033
You know, when we did the walkthrough it was pretty

1043
00:55:18,033 --> 00:55:19,867
eye-opening to see, especially in the middle

1044
00:55:19,867 --> 00:55:20,266
- School. Yeah.

1045
00:55:21,033 --> 00:55:22,867
- You know, your assets are underneath your roof

1046
00:55:23,266 --> 00:55:26,133
and here we have our assets being flooded when it rains.

1047
00:55:26,166 --> 00:55:27,166
So

1048
00:55:29,033 --> 00:55:32,033
- This is the first time, this is the first document

1049
00:55:32,033 --> 00:55:34,900
that I could find that the school produced.

1050
00:55:35,734 --> 00:55:37,734
I I have not seen what the town has had

1051
00:55:37,834 --> 00:55:39,100
for an improvement plan.

1052
00:55:39,066 --> 00:55:41,100
I've been told, they've been told

1053
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,667
that roofs have been on the docket for a long time. So is

1054
00:55:45,667 --> 00:55:48,900
- This something we review annually every year at this?

1055
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:51,767
- We will start to, - Yeah,

1056
00:55:51,767 --> 00:55:52,700
I was gonna say I think you should

1057
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,166
annually don't think we've been doing it

1058
00:55:54,467 --> 00:55:55,467
- Consistently.

1059
00:55:56,634 --> 00:56:00,066
- Capital plan. - I mean we're looking at 9 million and

1060
00:56:00,066 --> 00:56:01,667
and five plus million are the roofs.

1061
00:56:01,867 --> 00:56:05,367
- Yeah. Yeah. And, and that's only gonna go up. Right?

1062
00:56:05,367 --> 00:56:06,367
Right.

1063
00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:10,166
- But if we do get 60% Yeah that pulls that number down.

1064
00:56:10,734 --> 00:56:14,133
- Absolutely. Yep. - And they're not gonna agree

1065
00:56:14,133 --> 00:56:16,000
to do all three roofs at once. Oh

1066
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,000
- No, - No, no.

1067
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,300
So we do one at a time. So that makes it a little more,

1068
00:56:22,367 --> 00:56:23,734
I don't want to use the word acceptable,

1069
00:56:23,834 --> 00:56:25,467
but a little more palatable.

1070
00:56:25,467 --> 00:56:27,500
- Yeah, yeah. We agreed to prioritize.

1071
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:29,367
It sounds like the middle schools, the Yeah,

1072
00:56:29,367 --> 00:56:30,500
definitely the middle schools first.

1073
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,033
SMK is right up there.

1074
00:56:32,033 --> 00:56:34,300
And then I would lowest of the three. Yeah,

1075
00:56:34,634 --> 00:56:37,567
- There, there's a lot of discussion on the middle school.

1076
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:39,934
Is that the original roof? Yeah.

1077
00:56:40,133 --> 00:56:42,533
And I think from what we've been able to find out,

1078
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:45,467
it's the original roof that's been sort

1079
00:56:45,467 --> 00:56:46,467
of repaired a couple times,

1080
00:56:47,133 --> 00:56:50,066
but it's been so long since it's even had repairs that

1081
00:56:50,767 --> 00:56:52,533
you're talking 1960. Yeah. Bill,

1082
00:56:52,667 --> 00:56:54,734
- Bill said something about the membranes being

1083
00:56:56,033 --> 00:56:57,934
redone at some point, some at point.

1084
00:56:57,934 --> 00:56:59,266
At this point, all those membranes are old,

1085
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:00,867
- Dried out. So

1086
00:57:00,867 --> 00:57:01,867
- Yeah.

1087
00:57:01,867 --> 00:57:03,000
All all the, the gravel

1088
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,333
or the ted is all gone, gone, gone for the most part.

1089
00:57:06,734 --> 00:57:10,233
So it's, it's been a long time. A long time.

1090
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,500
So do we have to have the study done before January?

1091
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:20,100
- I gotta find that out. Okay.

1092
00:57:20,266 --> 00:57:23,533
I I I we probably are

1093
00:57:23,634 --> 00:57:25,867
because I think we need some information Right.

1094
00:57:25,867 --> 00:57:28,066
To go into the application. For

1095
00:57:28,066 --> 00:57:29,066
- Sure.

1096
00:57:29,066 --> 00:57:31,166
Do we know roughly what the study would cost?

1097
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:32,533
- I have not gone. Okay.

1098
00:57:32,634 --> 00:57:33,700
I have not done that work yet. Because

1099
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:35,066
- Basically we're doing one at a time.

1100
00:57:35,667 --> 00:57:38,767
Yes. 'cause they're not gonna, I I believe the, the,

1101
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:41,934
the meeting that was held a year ago

1102
00:57:44,266 --> 00:57:47,100
with them was Yeah, we're,

1103
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:48,667
we're not funding three roofs at once.

1104
00:57:49,066 --> 00:57:51,166
- Right. And I I perfectly understand that.

1105
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:53,066
- Yeah, that's understandable. Yeah.

1106
00:57:53,066 --> 00:57:54,734
But it doesn't mean we can't go back every year

1107
00:57:55,266 --> 00:57:56,333
'cause we're doing different roofs.

1108
00:57:56,367 --> 00:57:58,867
No, no, absolutely. So, but we're starting the process

1109
00:57:59,066 --> 00:58:00,100
and that's the important thing.

1110
00:58:00,266 --> 00:58:02,867
We're, we're not saying the roofs leak. The roofs leak.

1111
00:58:03,367 --> 00:58:04,467
We are starting a process.

1112
00:58:06,834 --> 00:58:10,166
I would, once we have more information, I would like to

1113
00:58:10,934 --> 00:58:15,233
invite the selectmen to come on a Saturday so we could,

1114
00:58:15,934 --> 00:58:19,367
and and we won't make it a huge major walkthrough probably

1115
00:58:19,367 --> 00:58:22,133
of either that building or that building in SK

1116
00:58:23,734 --> 00:58:25,667
to talk about the roofs

1117
00:58:25,934 --> 00:58:28,367
and talk about a few other things like the generator

1118
00:58:28,367 --> 00:58:31,734
and some other things that well let, let priorities

1119
00:58:31,734 --> 00:58:33,033
- The chiller too, you know. Yeah.

1120
00:58:33,266 --> 00:58:34,634
- And show 'em the chiller firsthand.

1121
00:58:34,934 --> 00:58:36,100
This is what, this is what you pay for.

1122
00:58:36,166 --> 00:58:38,000
It's, it's pretty, and

1123
00:58:38,066 --> 00:58:41,133
and I think at some future meeting,

1124
00:58:41,133 --> 00:58:42,133
once it's done once stuff

1125
00:58:42,133 --> 00:58:43,133
and running a hundred percent

1126
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,133
that we should throw it on the screen so

1127
00:58:46,133 --> 00:58:47,333
that it gets broadcast out.

1128
00:58:47,333 --> 00:58:50,266
Yeah. Just because let tell you that chiller the

1129
00:58:50,266 --> 00:58:53,767
outside unit, to me that's pretty impressive. It is

1130
00:58:53,767 --> 00:58:54,767
- Pretty impressive.

1131
00:58:54,767 --> 00:58:55,133
- It's pretty impressive. Yeah.

1132
00:58:55,367 --> 00:59:00,333
And, and so it's, it's time we

1133
00:59:01,033 --> 00:59:04,266
feed back, you know, people vote Yes.

1134
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:05,700
Spend money on things.

1135
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,100
Well this is what it looks like, right.

1136
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:08,367
This is what it's doing, it's working

1137
00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:10,700
and this is what we paid for.

1138
00:59:10,834 --> 00:59:12,533
And it, to me, it it is a pretty

1139
00:59:13,133 --> 00:59:14,634
impressive piece of equipment.

1140
00:59:15,734 --> 00:59:19,634
So, but I, I would like to get, I'm not looking

1141
00:59:19,634 --> 00:59:22,033
to get selectman necessarily on our side

1142
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,533
or try to bribe her any way.

1143
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,133
I, I just want to inform them that yeah, we're asking,

1144
00:59:27,233 --> 00:59:30,734
we're doing, we're we're going into the state program

1145
00:59:31,066 --> 00:59:34,233
to get some reimbursement and this is why.

1146
00:59:34,333 --> 00:59:36,033
And you know, we need their support.

1147
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:38,066
We need them to throw in with us

1148
00:59:38,567 --> 00:59:42,333
because it's, you know, to the point of

1149
00:59:43,467 --> 00:59:45,033
I think the library and the middle school

1150
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,233
and SMK, they both leak.

1151
00:59:48,133 --> 00:59:51,033
So there's a lot of investment in, especially in SMK,

1152
00:59:51,233 --> 00:59:53,000
but a lot of investment in books and stuff.

1153
00:59:53,066 --> 00:59:55,500
And it's like, we're also protecting the assets. Yeah.

1154
00:59:56,867 --> 00:59:59,367
And besides that, it's also, yeah,

1155
00:59:59,433 --> 01:00:02,100
without getting into too much quality of life

1156
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,500
and everything, it's like who wants to be in a building that

1157
01:00:05,767 --> 01:00:07,266
you'd be far drier standing

1158
01:00:07,266 --> 01:00:09,033
outside than you would be in a hallway

1159
01:00:09,166 --> 01:00:10,934
or something, or a classroom.

1160
01:00:11,133 --> 01:00:13,934
So it, it's about time. It it's long overdue.

1161
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:17,467
It's long overdue that we don't, I mean this is a wishlist,

1162
01:00:17,734 --> 01:00:20,000
you know, if the town won the lottery tomorrow, it's like,

1163
01:00:20,033 --> 01:00:21,300
okay, fill this out.

1164
01:00:22,066 --> 01:00:24,567
But I, I think it's a good start to,

1165
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,066
and then we can zero in like on roofs, the generator,

1166
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:30,100
I would even go on a limb

1167
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:32,000
and say I'd like to see a generator for the middle school.

1168
01:00:33,033 --> 01:00:35,834
- I would like that too. But I can commit.

1169
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:37,533
I understand why they don't have one there.

1170
01:00:37,734 --> 01:00:39,634
- One at a time, one at a time, one at a time.

1171
01:00:40,066 --> 01:00:41,100
But we gotta have at least two.

1172
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:44,100
Yeah, there's one here and that one needs to be replaced.

1173
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:45,133
We gotta have two. Yeah.

1174
01:00:45,133 --> 01:00:47,867
Because we run into a problem with power.

1175
01:00:49,667 --> 01:00:51,700
The generator basically does some basic things,

1176
01:00:52,233 --> 01:00:56,333
but the biggest thing it does is food service.

1177
01:00:57,066 --> 01:00:59,834
It is the middle school. It does the freezer shelter.

1178
01:01:00,867 --> 01:01:03,000
No, no. It was supposed to be,

1179
01:01:03,066 --> 01:01:04,767
yeah, I think back in the sixties.

1180
01:01:05,066 --> 01:01:07,867
'cause this, there is the area shelter

1181
01:01:07,867 --> 01:01:12,333
that's in the basement and we saw the beds in the Yeah,

1182
01:01:12,367 --> 01:01:13,467
it is not a bad thought.

1183
01:01:13,467 --> 01:01:15,133
It was, but apparently they decided

1184
01:01:15,233 --> 01:01:17,000
to put the money into the senior center

1185
01:01:17,367 --> 01:01:19,700
and that's why that has a better generator.

1186
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:21,467
And I believe it's a new one. Fairly new.

1187
01:01:22,133 --> 01:01:24,266
And that is the emergency place.

1188
01:01:24,333 --> 01:01:28,233
And I guess they also use the great room at the town hall if

1189
01:01:28,233 --> 01:01:29,333
they had to as an overflow.

1190
01:01:29,767 --> 01:01:31,734
I don't know if it's generated there or anything.

1191
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:35,533
So that's probably why the middle school never got one.

1192
01:01:35,867 --> 01:01:39,033
But at least if we have a generator at SMK

1193
01:01:39,133 --> 01:01:42,834
and this one running, if we had to move food stops out

1194
01:01:42,834 --> 01:01:45,033
of there, we'd have two places to put it as opposed

1195
01:01:45,033 --> 01:01:46,500
to just try to put everything in one.

1196
01:01:47,066 --> 01:01:50,000
And there is an alternative

1197
01:01:50,266 --> 01:01:52,000
and I would not go with the dry ice,

1198
01:01:52,266 --> 01:01:54,033
dry ice alternative trust them.

1199
01:01:55,033 --> 01:01:57,033
I've been there. And that is not fun.

1200
01:01:58,834 --> 01:02:00,867
It's pretty cool when you get rid of it and you,

1201
01:02:01,066 --> 01:02:03,066
and you watch the fog spread all over the place.

1202
01:02:03,133 --> 01:02:07,700
But it's, that's, that's no way to run a railroad.

1203
01:02:08,567 --> 01:02:12,834
So yeah, it's, it's, this is a lot of wishlist

1204
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:14,734
and we can get creative with some things,

1205
01:02:15,233 --> 01:02:17,834
but I, I think it's time that we start looking at

1206
01:02:17,834 --> 01:02:20,033
what we need and start

1207
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,734
could offend someone when I say this, start asking for it,

1208
01:02:26,133 --> 01:02:28,934
you know, a lot of money was spent on these buildings

1209
01:02:29,367 --> 01:02:33,567
and they do need some help.

1210
01:02:34,433 --> 01:02:38,166
Whether it's roofs, whether it's floors, they, they do see,

1211
01:02:38,166 --> 01:02:39,433
need some basic help.

1212
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:43,133
So I'm done. I lost my soapbox.

1213
01:02:43,367 --> 01:02:46,266
- Well the, the second half of that conversation is

1214
01:02:47,266 --> 01:02:48,367
you put this roof on

1215
01:02:48,367 --> 01:02:52,133
and this roof is supposed to last, let's just say 15 years.

1216
01:02:53,567 --> 01:02:58,066
Let's say we put the roof on in 2030, like it says here.

1217
01:02:58,433 --> 01:03:00,867
So in 2030 that school is going to be

1218
01:03:02,166 --> 01:03:03,734
how old it's going to be

1219
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:05,500
- 1960.

1220
01:03:05,667 --> 01:03:07,533
So 40 plus. That's 70 years old. Be 70 years

1221
01:03:07,533 --> 01:03:08,533
- Years old.

1222
01:03:08,533 --> 01:03:12,066
That's a 70-year-old school That's too old. So,

1223
01:03:12,133 --> 01:03:15,133
- So on the flip side of that conversation, yeah,

1224
01:03:15,133 --> 01:03:17,667
you're putting money into a 60, 70-year-old building.

1225
01:03:18,634 --> 01:03:21,000
But look at the floors in that place. It is

1226
01:03:21,433 --> 01:03:22,433
- Concrete.

1227
01:03:22,433 --> 01:03:23,333
Do Oh no, I was, I was talking about do you walk I was

1228
01:03:23,333 --> 01:03:24,634
talking about SMK sorry.

1229
01:03:24,634 --> 01:03:25,533
- Oh, SMK. Sorry,

1230
01:03:25,867 --> 01:03:26,900
I thought you was talking the middle school.

1231
01:03:27,533 --> 01:03:30,066
- Oh what SMK was built in 70, 74. Yeah.

1232
01:03:30,367 --> 01:03:33,500
So a a 60-year-old building.

1233
01:03:34,033 --> 01:03:37,767
So I guess, I guess my thought to it is

1234
01:03:37,834 --> 01:03:40,533
that if we have a middle school that is old

1235
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,066
and a lower elementary school that is old

1236
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:48,066
and we're gonna put in two point,

1237
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:50,266
almost 2.3 million at SMK

1238
01:03:50,266 --> 01:03:54,634
and 1.8 at the middle school, at

1239
01:03:54,634 --> 01:03:57,567
what point does it make more financial sense

1240
01:03:57,567 --> 01:04:01,100
and more longevity sense to say, alright, we're gonna build

1241
01:04:01,567 --> 01:04:04,333
a pre-K to six elementary school

1242
01:04:06,433 --> 01:04:08,667
instead of having basically

1243
01:04:09,033 --> 01:04:10,033
- Elementary - Schools.

1244
01:04:10,033 --> 01:04:12,100
What? Well, that's, that's the thing is that, is

1245
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:16,000
that if you, if you take, if you take the,

1246
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,467
the $4 million here

1247
01:04:19,433 --> 01:04:22,000
and shift it toward the cost of building a new building,

1248
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,867
which is obviously way more than $4 million,

1249
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:26,734
all I'm saying is that a new building with a new roof

1250
01:04:27,667 --> 01:04:29,734
is gonna last lot longer than an

1251
01:04:29,734 --> 01:04:30,934
old building with a new roof.

1252
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:36,500
- But if the new building that replaces two say is,

1253
01:04:37,066 --> 01:04:41,033
and I'm just throwing a number out there, 50 million,

1254
01:04:42,300 --> 01:04:43,300
- I was gonna say 40.

1255
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:44,634
So we're in the same ballpark ish. Right,

1256
01:04:47,834 --> 01:04:50,100
- I know a few years ago and - Right.

1257
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:52,066
But that must it just, I to say it some place

1258
01:04:52,767 --> 01:04:55,066
- That - A, a large percentage of that

1259
01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:58,100
- Newton South did a high school for 75 million,

1260
01:04:59,133 --> 01:05:01,066
that's a addition that's got everything in it.

1261
01:05:01,133 --> 01:05:04,567
So 50 million is probably a safe number

1262
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,233
up higher for a building to replace these two. Yes.

1263
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:13,500
- Oh yeah. Yeah. - I I I would be surprised you could get

1264
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:16,000
it for less than 85, 90 million.

1265
01:05:16,033 --> 01:05:17,100
- What was David Proudy?

1266
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,333
That's probably the newest woman over there.

1267
01:05:18,834 --> 01:05:20,300
- Proudy. Yeah. Yeah, right.

1268
01:05:22,634 --> 01:05:26,033
- Yeah. I don't know how much that was. That's up there.

1269
01:05:26,367 --> 01:05:28,100
- Seventies. - Yeah, so

1270
01:05:30,634 --> 01:05:34,867
- I mean 'cause because we're in the buildings, there's also

1271
01:05:35,467 --> 01:05:39,634
land acquisition if, you know, how, where,

1272
01:05:39,634 --> 01:05:41,133
where would we be able to put it?

1273
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:43,867
I think we go on this site, don't get me wrong,

1274
01:05:44,266 --> 01:05:47,066
but, you know, so that, that part of the conversation.

1275
01:05:47,066 --> 01:05:49,100
Right. But land might be a part of the price too.

1276
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:54,133
To, or, or, or re re reclamation

1277
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:57,500
of land, you know, cutting down trees and so forth. 'cause

1278
01:05:58,266 --> 01:06:00,166
- Yeah, 'cause I mean you would, you would build it probably

1279
01:06:00,166 --> 01:06:02,834
where SMK is but it would eat into the soccer

1280
01:06:02,834 --> 01:06:03,867
field and the baseball field

1281
01:06:03,934 --> 01:06:04,934
- Behind it.

1282
01:06:04,934 --> 01:06:05,634
I was gonna say it would probably have to go on the

1283
01:06:05,634 --> 01:06:06,734
soccer field and baseball field.

1284
01:06:06,734 --> 01:06:08,834
Yeah. So that you don't disrupt what goes on at

1285
01:06:09,133 --> 01:06:10,133
- SK.

1286
01:06:10,133 --> 01:06:10,867
Yeah. And like while it's being built,

1287
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,133
we've got the middle school and the high school.

1288
01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:14,867
I mean, we could, we could figure out where

1289
01:06:14,867 --> 01:06:16,133
to put kids within this campus.

1290
01:06:16,233 --> 01:06:18,567
Yeah. I feel like for the short term of it being built,

1291
01:06:20,066 --> 01:06:21,100
I don't think we would have to buy land.

1292
01:06:21,166 --> 01:06:23,100
I think we would, I think we could use what we have.

1293
01:06:23,166 --> 01:06:25,567
And I'm not saying it would be cheap, I'm just saying that

1294
01:06:26,066 --> 01:06:29,767
if we put a roof on a building

1295
01:06:29,767 --> 01:06:31,433
that's already 60 years old

1296
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:34,133
and we expect it to last for 15 years,

1297
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,066
- I would expect it to last 20, 25 years easy.

1298
01:06:40,033 --> 01:06:42,033
- So by then the school is almost a hundred years old.

1299
01:06:45,333 --> 01:06:49,100
- I think a conversation that has to happen at that point is

1300
01:06:50,734 --> 01:06:52,000
what's our student population?

1301
01:06:55,300 --> 01:06:56,700
What's our student population?

1302
01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:02,033
- Is enrollment trending upwards? Anywhere? Anywhere?

1303
01:07:03,667 --> 01:07:05,100
- Yeah. The whole state is coming down

1304
01:07:05,166 --> 01:07:07,867
- Western west of 4, 9, 5.

1305
01:07:10,133 --> 01:07:11,233
- All right. I I mean, - It was just

1306
01:07:11,233 --> 01:07:12,934
because that would determine the size, but,

1307
01:07:15,066 --> 01:07:17,000
but that might also work against it in the fact

1308
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,934
that you wanna do that much

1309
01:07:19,133 --> 01:07:20,867
for a population that's declining.

1310
01:07:21,867 --> 01:07:24,133
I mean, look at Mohat.

1311
01:07:24,166 --> 01:07:27,266
We've lost in 10 years a third of their student population.

1312
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:29,133
Look at Munson down the road.

1313
01:07:30,133 --> 01:07:32,867
They're at least, what, 25% if not more.

1314
01:07:34,033 --> 01:07:36,433
They can't feel certain athletic teams

1315
01:07:36,867 --> 01:07:38,066
'cause they don't have enough kids.

1316
01:07:39,500 --> 01:07:41,333
- But are the elementary schools also suffering?

1317
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,834
- I can't answer that because I don't,

1318
01:07:46,934 --> 01:07:48,000
when they throw numbers out, they don't

1319
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:49,700
take it down. Permit S okay

1320
01:07:50,066 --> 01:07:51,066
- Is good.

1321
01:07:51,066 --> 01:07:53,233
- But then where are they going? What is happening?

1322
01:07:53,266 --> 01:07:57,567
If, if, say in in Munson, their elementary numbers are good

1323
01:07:57,867 --> 01:07:59,433
and then all of a sudden they get to the seventh

1324
01:07:59,467 --> 01:08:01,100
and eighth grade, where are they going?

1325
01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:03,100
If it falls that much? Right.

1326
01:08:03,634 --> 01:08:05,266
It's probably across the board

1327
01:08:05,266 --> 01:08:08,634
that is slowly going down.

1328
01:08:10,166 --> 01:08:12,000
I would say, I would just guess,

1329
01:08:12,266 --> 01:08:16,367
but, you know, how would we want to be

1330
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:19,934
look to the future as far as a declining population?

1331
01:08:20,567 --> 01:08:25,233
And no offense, but do we want to build a Taj Mahal?

1332
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:30,700
And when we probably field of dreams,

1333
01:08:30,700 --> 01:08:31,900
fiscal wise, field of

1334
01:08:31,900 --> 01:08:32,900
- Dreams, - If you build it, they

1335
01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:33,667
- Will come. Yes.

1336
01:08:34,033 --> 01:08:37,033
- I'm just - Kidding. There's data to support that.

1337
01:08:37,166 --> 01:08:38,266
But there, yes.

1338
01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:40,033
The schools, if you build a new school,

1339
01:08:40,734 --> 01:08:44,000
your enrollment usually grows, ticks up for a short time.

1340
01:08:44,033 --> 01:08:46,133
But obviously it's, it's all about housing

1341
01:08:46,133 --> 01:08:47,233
units and, and Right.

1342
01:08:47,467 --> 01:08:49,100
Replenishing existing unit.

1343
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:52,300
So if the town has an aggressive housing plan

1344
01:08:53,333 --> 01:08:56,700
or development is gonna happen in the town on, on existing

1345
01:08:57,767 --> 01:09:00,767
land, then you, you look at that

1346
01:09:00,867 --> 01:09:02,233
and you see if there's gonna be growth.

1347
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,000
So

1348
01:09:04,900 --> 01:09:06,367
- Yes, I think we need to take care of what we have

1349
01:09:08,066 --> 01:09:11,734
as a start and then we can, if things get

1350
01:09:12,734 --> 01:09:16,634
to a point where the numbers are high

1351
01:09:17,233 --> 01:09:19,500
and considering a new building,

1352
01:09:19,767 --> 01:09:21,634
I think then we have that discussion.

1353
01:09:21,900 --> 01:09:24,567
But I think for now we need to fix what we have

1354
01:09:24,900 --> 01:09:27,133
because it's not getting any better.

1355
01:09:28,300 --> 01:09:30,033
- I wonder if part of the research study

1356
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:32,033
tackles a little bit of this,

1357
01:09:32,333 --> 01:09:35,266
like the research study might unpack, well,

1358
01:09:35,367 --> 01:09:38,300
you're gonna put $5 million into two roof or three roof.

1359
01:09:38,734 --> 01:09:43,133
Perhaps it might be more value to look at building.

1360
01:09:43,567 --> 01:09:45,367
Yeah. If that's part of a re I don't know.

1361
01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:47,133
I'm asking. I wonder that. Well,

1362
01:09:47,166 --> 01:09:50,266
- I I think that that's, that's the value of working

1363
01:09:50,266 --> 01:09:52,066
with MSBA, to be honest with you,

1364
01:09:52,066 --> 01:09:55,000
because they have a, a statewide view of

1365
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,100
what, what's been happening.

1366
01:09:56,433 --> 01:10:00,634
And so they can, they could share some of their experience

1367
01:10:00,767 --> 01:10:05,100
around, you know, enrollment growth.

1368
01:10:06,533 --> 01:10:10,133
You know, what happens with 68-year-old buildings versus,

1369
01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:12,333
you know, a hundred year old, old

1370
01:10:12,433 --> 01:10:13,433
- Buildings.

1371
01:10:13,433 --> 01:10:14,367
My guess is there's more beyond the roof

1372
01:10:14,634 --> 01:10:15,934
that potentially needs to

1373
01:10:15,934 --> 01:10:16,934
- Be upgrade for.

1374
01:10:16,934 --> 01:10:18,233
And they would, they would, would definitely wanna be part

1375
01:10:18,533 --> 01:10:20,667
of a conversation with the community about that.

1376
01:10:20,900 --> 01:10:22,233
Definitely. Perhaps

1377
01:10:22,233 --> 01:10:24,467
- You could look into that if there's a component

1378
01:10:24,533 --> 01:10:27,033
of the research study that we give an analysis of,

1379
01:10:27,166 --> 01:10:30,367
- Well, because we're, we're, we designed this study

1380
01:10:30,367 --> 01:10:31,667
that we want done, we do.

1381
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:36,367
So we could ask, you know, for, for firms to do an, our

1382
01:10:37,433 --> 01:10:40,500
request for proposals, we could ask from a firm

1383
01:10:40,533 --> 01:10:44,934
to make sure they have an enrollment piece done

1384
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:49,367
or that they have a, a statistical analysis of, you know,

1385
01:10:49,433 --> 01:10:54,133
what, what really is the best

1386
01:10:54,767 --> 01:10:57,000
year for a building to be retired?

1387
01:10:57,100 --> 01:11:00,066
You know, is it there 60th years? If there's 75th years,

1388
01:11:00,233 --> 01:11:02,567
- We could spit ball up here all night and knock it anyway.

1389
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,567
Oh yeah. Evidence is in front of us.

1390
01:11:04,634 --> 01:11:06,100
We could probably make a better decision.

1391
01:11:06,233 --> 01:11:09,634
- Oh, absolutely. And we can write our study how we want

1392
01:11:09,934 --> 01:11:11,033
for the information that we Right.

1393
01:11:11,033 --> 01:11:12,634
If we need those questions answered, we can,

1394
01:11:12,634 --> 01:11:13,867
we can get answered for sure.

1395
01:11:13,867 --> 01:11:14,867
Right. Yeah.

1396
01:11:15,934 --> 01:11:17,100
- So as a follow up, we need

1397
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:21,166
what the study's gonna cost. Yep.

1398
01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:23,233
- And - Is that funded?

1399
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:26,133
The study's funded solely by our operating budget?

1400
01:11:27,266 --> 01:11:29,834
- The initial one is, yes. Oh wow. Yeah.

1401
01:11:31,066 --> 01:11:36,133
- Okay. Yeah. - And we

1402
01:11:36,133 --> 01:11:37,500
need to find out how soon we need to do it.

1403
01:11:38,066 --> 01:11:43,000
- Yes. - So if

1404
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:47,700
we need to now, would we go for a warrant based on,

1405
01:11:47,900 --> 01:11:49,567
well we should have a cost rough cost.

1406
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,300
So we could do the warrant based on that as opposed

1407
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:54,767
to throwing out a number and saying, well,

1408
01:11:54,767 --> 01:11:56,066
if you don't use it all, we'll give it back to you.

1409
01:11:56,133 --> 01:11:58,133
But that's not always a No.

1410
01:11:58,133 --> 01:12:00,367
- We'd wanna give them specifics about what's a to

1411
01:12:00,367 --> 01:12:01,033
- Fill go. Good information

1412
01:12:01,166 --> 01:12:02,000
- We can give them. Yeah.

1413
01:12:02,567 --> 01:12:03,867
- Yeah. Okay. And same

1414
01:12:03,867 --> 01:12:05,367
with the generator. Oh, the generator we have.

1415
01:12:05,667 --> 01:12:08,033
- Yeah. That's a, a - Pretty 65,000. That's

1416
01:12:08,033 --> 01:12:09,033
- A solid cost.

1417
01:12:09,033 --> 01:12:09,133
- Okay. Quote.

1418
01:12:16,133 --> 01:12:20,634
All right. We definitely will do this once a year,

1419
01:12:21,166 --> 01:12:22,266
maybe every six months.

1420
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:25,367
- Thank you for putting the time into that.

1421
01:12:25,467 --> 01:12:26,867
Yeah, thank you. It was an excellent

1422
01:12:27,367 --> 01:12:28,367
- Document.

1423
01:12:28,367 --> 01:12:29,266
We haven't had anything like this in a long time.

1424
01:12:29,734 --> 01:12:31,066
It's kind of nice to have it all there

1425
01:12:31,567 --> 01:12:33,767
and I know it's in a sense, a wishlist,

1426
01:12:34,133 --> 01:12:36,166
but yet it's something we can work towards

1427
01:12:36,333 --> 01:12:40,033
and something that Yeah.

1428
01:12:40,066 --> 01:12:41,934
We can work towards. It's

1429
01:12:50,166 --> 01:12:51,166
Any other questions or comments?

1430
01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:53,100
Capital improvement.

1431
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:57,667
- I guess last one, just in regards to like operation

1432
01:12:57,667 --> 01:13:00,233
and maintenance, I do feel a lot of questions about like

1433
01:13:00,233 --> 01:13:01,266
what is the operation

1434
01:13:01,266 --> 01:13:04,033
and maintenance schedules of anything

1435
01:13:04,033 --> 01:13:05,133
that might appear on here.

1436
01:13:05,233 --> 01:13:07,033
I mean, I would assume that we have, you know,

1437
01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:10,934
somebody maintaining our equipment, doing

1438
01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:12,433
what they need to do to service it.

1439
01:13:12,567 --> 01:13:16,300
Yep. Yearly, monthly, bi-annually.

1440
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:19,300
Can you talk a little bit about like what, what we do

1441
01:13:19,300 --> 01:13:21,000
to maintain what we do have so

1442
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,000
that we're not overlooking anything so

1443
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,433
that it pops up when it should.

1444
01:13:25,767 --> 01:13:26,767
Yeah.

1445
01:13:28,033 --> 01:13:31,133
- Yeah. I think, you know, from what I can see and, and,

1446
01:13:31,133 --> 01:13:34,367
and how Bill talks about, you know, what, what he's doing

1447
01:13:34,367 --> 01:13:35,734
and how he's mapping things out.

1448
01:13:35,767 --> 01:13:37,900
You know, I think he's got a good handle on what the,

1449
01:13:39,066 --> 01:13:41,000
what the schedule of maintenance is needed

1450
01:13:41,133 --> 01:13:42,266
for, for everything.

1451
01:13:43,066 --> 01:13:45,066
And it's, you know, well documented

1452
01:13:45,166 --> 01:13:48,433
and you know, people who come in and work on our, our

1453
01:13:49,867 --> 01:13:51,634
- So that falls to Bill and the maintenance staff.

1454
01:13:51,634 --> 01:13:53,000
- Yeah. Yeah. - Okay.

1455
01:13:53,333 --> 01:13:54,467
- And we've come a long way.

1456
01:13:54,667 --> 01:13:57,166
We used to like fund them for nothing. Yeah.

1457
01:13:57,166 --> 01:13:58,767
- Kitchen equipment that went

1458
01:13:58,767 --> 01:13:59,767
- Across the board.

1459
01:13:59,767 --> 01:14:01,667
We would end up giving them a a a new box

1460
01:14:01,734 --> 01:14:04,100
of duct tape every year and that was all we could afford

1461
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:06,266
and hold it together. My

1462
01:14:06,266 --> 01:14:07,367
- Point is, it's a heavy lift for

1463
01:14:07,367 --> 01:14:08,667
one person, right? Right. To

1464
01:14:08,667 --> 01:14:09,900
- Go through all - These R one

1465
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:11,000
M'S for everything that we own.

1466
01:14:11,567 --> 01:14:14,266
But it could potentially be a cost savings to the right.

1467
01:14:14,266 --> 01:14:16,266
Offset the local assessment when people are saying,

1468
01:14:16,266 --> 01:14:17,834
well take care of what you have.

1469
01:14:17,900 --> 01:14:19,300
Right, right. Before we buy it, we,

1470
01:14:19,300 --> 01:14:20,867
we ask the town to buy us something new.

1471
01:14:21,066 --> 01:14:22,934
- So Jeff Nichols is our food services

1472
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:25,533
and he oversees the, the kitchen equipment.

1473
01:14:25,767 --> 01:14:27,133
I mean they, they work together,

1474
01:14:27,367 --> 01:14:30,767
but Jeff has a good handle on what the schedule

1475
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,533
for main maintenance and

1476
01:14:32,834 --> 01:14:36,300
because he's also inspected obviously that, that

1477
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:39,533
puts the pressure on making sure that it's maintained.

1478
01:14:40,166 --> 01:14:43,100
But he's got a good replacement cycle

1479
01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:46,834
of his equipment as, as well. So good

1480
01:14:46,834 --> 01:14:47,834
- To hear.

1481
01:14:47,834 --> 01:14:49,100
So you're comfortable saying we we maintain what we have.

1482
01:14:49,166 --> 01:14:51,066
- Yeah. I'm seeing good things. I think that's important

1483
01:14:51,066 --> 01:14:52,233
- Information to get - Out there.

1484
01:14:52,367 --> 01:14:54,634
And Jeff is pretty good at finding

1485
01:14:55,233 --> 01:14:56,266
or applying for grants

1486
01:14:56,367 --> 01:14:58,266
to replace things too, from time to time.

1487
01:14:58,266 --> 01:15:01,000
Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing what he will get a grant for

1488
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:02,533
to replace the dishwasher or whatever.

1489
01:15:02,567 --> 01:15:05,734
Yep. And that equipment is old.

1490
01:15:06,100 --> 01:15:07,767
It's, but it is maintained

1491
01:15:08,467 --> 01:15:13,066
and when it's replaced it's, he,

1492
01:15:13,133 --> 01:15:15,333
he does an excellent job with doing that.

1493
01:15:15,634 --> 01:15:16,934
I'll, I'll give him that right now.

1494
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:18,834
- And I only bring it up because it's the first per

1495
01:15:18,834 --> 01:15:19,867
thing someone's gonna ask me.

1496
01:15:19,867 --> 01:15:21,734
Oh, absolutely. When we ask for something new, well,

1497
01:15:21,734 --> 01:15:23,767
how well are you taking care of the old stuff? So,

1498
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,266
- And, and that's an excellent point

1499
01:15:25,266 --> 01:15:29,266
because MSBA actually f has least focused on that.

1500
01:15:29,266 --> 01:15:31,100
Have you've been taking care of what you have. Right.

1501
01:15:31,634 --> 01:15:34,100
'cause if they, if they find evidence that you haven't been,

1502
01:15:35,233 --> 01:15:36,500
they back away very quickly.

1503
01:15:37,867 --> 01:15:41,834
- Thank you. - Veteran

1504
01:15:41,900 --> 01:15:43,233
field bathroom installation.

1505
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:47,734
- Yes. So I know this has been around for a topic

1506
01:15:48,734 --> 01:15:50,000
and for a while.

1507
01:15:50,033 --> 01:15:54,634
Couple years. Yeah. And so we do have a current quote.

1508
01:15:55,133 --> 01:15:59,834
This is for the product that is, you know,

1509
01:15:59,834 --> 01:16:04,133
essentially they, they are portable, they can be moved,

1510
01:16:04,066 --> 01:16:07,467
but they're essentially, you know, stationed there.

1511
01:16:07,533 --> 01:16:09,834
So we would buy a handicapped accessible

1512
01:16:09,834 --> 01:16:11,166
port, portable restroom.

1513
01:16:12,467 --> 01:16:15,100
So we would have that. And next to

1514
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:18,233
that we would have two private stalls, toilet stalls.

1515
01:16:19,033 --> 01:16:23,266
Next to that they would be positioned next to the

1516
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:30,834
bleachers on veterans field so that they can near the,

1517
01:16:30,900 --> 01:16:33,066
near the concession stand, but far enough away,

1518
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:37,166
but also be available to the softball field so

1519
01:16:37,166 --> 01:16:40,100
that they could be used for the, for that game as well.

1520
01:16:41,233 --> 01:16:45,133
And so we have the 20,000 from the

1521
01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:48,767
T-Mobile to T-Mobile company.

1522
01:16:49,867 --> 01:16:51,767
And so we would have to contribute some

1523
01:16:51,767 --> 01:16:54,033
and we're looking for those funds now to do that.

1524
01:16:54,367 --> 01:16:57,100
We would like to do that, you know, do this,

1525
01:16:59,233 --> 01:17:00,367
this fall would be great,

1526
01:17:00,367 --> 01:17:01,767
but it's probably gonna be next spring

1527
01:17:02,900 --> 01:17:06,333
because we do have to do some groundwork for the plumbing,

1528
01:17:07,133 --> 01:17:11,300
which would be about $7,000 more to, to take care of.

1529
01:17:12,467 --> 01:17:13,767
- This is a direct tie in.

1530
01:17:14,266 --> 01:17:16,700
- It's a direct tie in. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah.

1531
01:17:16,934 --> 01:17:18,867
- What do we currently pay for what we have?

1532
01:17:19,667 --> 01:17:20,700
- I don't know the answer to that question,

1533
01:17:21,066 --> 01:17:22,266
but it's pretty expensive actually.

1534
01:17:22,667 --> 01:17:24,900
You know, when you think about it, it's, it's less,

1535
01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:26,133
it's less than this, but Yeah.

1536
01:17:26,166 --> 01:17:28,700
But it's annually, so it's compounding.

1537
01:17:28,734 --> 01:17:29,734
You know, every year you do it.

1538
01:17:31,333 --> 01:17:33,000
- Now I dig out the stuff from last year

1539
01:17:34,767 --> 01:17:39,233
and the estimates were

1540
01:17:39,900 --> 01:17:41,166
the nine and the 5,600.

1541
01:17:41,433 --> 01:17:43,367
So it has gone down, which is good.

1542
01:17:44,634 --> 01:17:48,300
They, he also had given us 7,000 bucks for plumbing.

1543
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:51,367
'cause this is just for the equipment

1544
01:17:51,767 --> 01:17:53,133
then we have to do the plumbing after.

1545
01:17:53,066 --> 01:17:57,934
- That's correct. Yes. I say we do

1546
01:17:57,934 --> 01:17:58,934
- It now.

1547
01:17:58,934 --> 01:18:02,033
Do we have 25,000 we got from T-Mobile or do we have 20? 20.

1548
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:03,367
20. Okay.

1549
01:18:04,333 --> 01:18:06,033
So with this

1550
01:18:06,166 --> 01:18:08,166
and estimate of roughly 7,000,

1551
01:18:08,233 --> 01:18:09,467
it's not gonna cost us a thing.

1552
01:18:10,767 --> 01:18:11,233
- It's Yeah,

1553
01:18:11,567 --> 01:18:12,934
we're gonna have to kick in a little bit, right?

1554
01:18:12,934 --> 01:18:13,934
Yeah.

1555
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:16,000
- Yeah. We'll have to get a better estimate on

1556
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,533
the, the plumbing. Right.

1557
01:18:17,667 --> 01:18:20,433
- Has anybody looked into that? Is it a gravity fed sewer?

1558
01:18:20,433 --> 01:18:22,634
Like how far away are there any turns

1559
01:18:22,734 --> 01:18:24,000
in the pipe? I just don't,

1560
01:18:24,300 --> 01:18:26,000
- I'm relying on bill's expertise in that get

1561
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,000
- Rot router involved.

1562
01:18:27,333 --> 01:18:29,667
You know, the public's throwing stuff down there. They

1563
01:18:29,667 --> 01:18:30,667
- Shouldn't.

1564
01:18:30,667 --> 01:18:34,133
Yeah. I mean, from what I understand, the,

1565
01:18:34,133 --> 01:18:35,533
these particular units work,

1566
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:37,767
they work pretty much like a regular bathroom.

1567
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:40,300
Yep. And that you wouldn't notice the difference,

1568
01:18:42,667 --> 01:18:46,266
you know, if they're, if they're again, maintained Well and

1569
01:18:46,266 --> 01:18:51,033
because they do have running water, you don't have the issue

1570
01:18:51,433 --> 01:18:55,734
of the smell To the extent for you to, for a,

1571
01:18:56,066 --> 01:18:57,700
- To be tying into the utilities up here.

1572
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:00,533
- Yes. At the high school. Yeah. Yeah.

1573
01:19:01,700 --> 01:19:04,000
Well to middle school, but yes. Yeah,

1574
01:19:08,133 --> 01:19:09,133
- I think it's a good deal.

1575
01:19:09,367 --> 01:19:12,533
- I think it's great. You, it's time to be done to do it.

1576
01:19:13,133 --> 01:19:16,033
I move, I move that we do this.

1577
01:19:18,033 --> 01:19:19,033
- Do we have a second? Starts getting

1578
01:19:19,033 --> 01:19:20,000
- Late second.

1579
01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:24,000
- All in favor? Any more discussion? Okay.

1580
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,900
All in favor, Kevin? Aye. Julie. Aye.

1581
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:29,033
Aye for myself, Mike. Aye

1582
01:19:29,033 --> 01:19:30,033
- Mel.

1583
01:19:30,033 --> 01:19:32,667
Aye. Great. A lot of people very happy.

1584
01:19:38,033 --> 01:19:39,133
- It takes care of a lot of problems.

1585
01:19:39,700 --> 01:19:44,033
- Yeah. So

1586
01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:47,166
hearing what you just said, I I'm not trying

1587
01:19:47,166 --> 01:19:48,266
to make the meeting move faster,

1588
01:19:48,433 --> 01:19:53,000
but I, the MOU for the, we're not ready to, I'm not ready

1589
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,066
to move forward for the association has been great.

1590
01:19:56,066 --> 01:19:58,367
They just had other things to deal with.

1591
01:19:58,500 --> 01:20:02,266
So I, I don't have, they don't,

1592
01:20:02,266 --> 01:20:06,100
they have not looked at the job description

1593
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:07,033
that I gave to them.

1594
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,133
To make a long story short,

1595
01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:11,567
the district has had this position

1596
01:20:12,634 --> 01:20:14,066
for at least over 25 years.

1597
01:20:14,767 --> 01:20:17,000
It's paid out this position for over 25 years.

1598
01:20:18,133 --> 01:20:21,000
The two people that have had the position have never

1599
01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:22,700
received any kind of letter or agreement.

1600
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:28,100
It has been a $2,500 for, for the whole 20 to 25 years

1601
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:29,133
that it's been in existence.

1602
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,467
We're just trying to tighten up our rules and regulations

1603
01:20:33,467 --> 01:20:35,133
and follow our standard procedures.

1604
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:40,000
It's also, you know, for the purposes of retirement,

1605
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:43,734
if you don't have, if it's not tied to a contract

1606
01:20:45,233 --> 01:20:49,000
in some way, you can't claim it for retirement purposes.

1607
01:20:49,934 --> 01:20:54,634
Oh. And so, so my my recommendation

1608
01:20:54,734 --> 01:20:58,000
to the committee is that we enter this

1609
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,100
as a stipend deposition.

1610
01:20:59,266 --> 01:21:01,100
It goes into our unit, a contract

1611
01:21:02,133 --> 01:21:04,467
and it's paid.

1612
01:21:04,767 --> 01:21:08,367
I, I'm recommending to increase the stipends

1613
01:21:09,066 --> 01:21:11,467
for a slight amount to $3,100 just

1614
01:21:11,467 --> 01:21:15,500
because that has never gotten a raise in 25 here, 22 years.

1615
01:21:15,934 --> 01:21:19,333
But, so, and then, you know, obviously we'll post it

1616
01:21:19,333 --> 01:21:22,233
and hire for it.

1617
01:21:22,567 --> 01:21:23,567
Great.

1618
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,100
- Yeah. But it's not ready to do today. Let us

1619
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:27,100
- Know when you get that.

1620
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:29,667
Yeah, I, I just, they haven't given me the Okay.

1621
01:21:29,667 --> 01:21:30,734
They wanna move forward on it.

1622
01:21:30,934 --> 01:21:34,033
I, I don't think there's any disagreement with it.

1623
01:21:34,033 --> 01:21:36,000
It's just a time timing issue. Great.

1624
01:21:39,567 --> 01:21:41,700
- No old unfinished business comments

1625
01:21:41,767 --> 01:21:43,100
and concerns of citizens.

1626
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:49,934
The subcommittee discussions on here, just briefly,

1627
01:21:52,066 --> 01:21:56,000
I hope to after this weekend get you some information

1628
01:21:56,700 --> 01:21:58,166
on the superintendent search.

1629
01:21:58,834 --> 01:22:00,500
- Oh good. That was on my notes to talk about

1630
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,133
- And I was hoping to do it for this meeting,

1631
01:22:03,500 --> 01:22:05,333
but things were kind of tight.

1632
01:22:06,634 --> 01:22:10,166
But there's some information, I've gotten some information.

1633
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:14,100
I want to do a roughly a timeline

1634
01:22:15,734 --> 01:22:19,166
and cover some other things.

1635
01:22:19,467 --> 01:22:21,367
But the job description of other things

1636
01:22:21,767 --> 01:22:23,433
that we will discuss at the next meeting.

1637
01:22:24,033 --> 01:22:27,100
I'm just doing this so that there's something

1638
01:22:27,133 --> 01:22:28,233
to work off of.

1639
01:22:29,767 --> 01:22:32,133
And I sort of, and when it comes to scheduling meetings,

1640
01:22:32,166 --> 01:22:34,266
I sort of like the doing every other Wednesday.

1641
01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:36,567
'cause pretty much everybody has Wednesday's block.

1642
01:22:37,367 --> 01:22:40,133
So, and then we can appoint,

1643
01:22:42,467 --> 01:22:45,367
we can vote on establishing the subcommittee next meeting

1644
01:22:46,033 --> 01:22:48,233
and we can get going on it and starting on it.

1645
01:22:49,834 --> 01:22:53,934
And, but I want to get information out to everybody ahead

1646
01:22:53,934 --> 01:22:56,000
of time so we're not like sitting here going,

1647
01:22:56,867 --> 01:22:57,900
what are we gonna talk about now?

1648
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:00,500
Well not give us a, give us an outline

1649
01:23:00,500 --> 01:23:02,734
and we can add to it, take away whatever it is.

1650
01:23:02,734 --> 01:23:04,900
But give us something to be able to discuss with.

1651
01:23:05,367 --> 01:23:07,533
So I will have that for the next meeting so

1652
01:23:07,533 --> 01:23:11,233
that we can start that process of searching for

1653
01:23:11,934 --> 01:23:13,934
a superintendent.

1654
01:23:14,567 --> 01:23:17,000
- Yes. I was gonna add

1655
01:23:17,166 --> 01:23:20,100
that the timeline we had last year was fine,

1656
01:23:20,266 --> 01:23:24,634
but it did very much work around the, the holiday break.

1657
01:23:25,233 --> 01:23:27,333
So we,

1658
01:23:29,066 --> 01:23:32,066
we put out like the notice, like we want people to join

1659
01:23:32,700 --> 01:23:35,300
and then the committee was formed like

1660
01:23:36,266 --> 01:23:37,367
early December, I think.

1661
01:23:37,533 --> 01:23:38,567
I feel like it was around my birthday,

1662
01:23:38,567 --> 01:23:39,634
like December 10th ish.

1663
01:23:40,333 --> 01:23:43,033
And then we posted,

1664
01:23:44,033 --> 01:23:45,500
'cause the, the, the committee met

1665
01:23:45,500 --> 01:23:48,033
and went over the job requirements and everything that like,

1666
01:23:48,066 --> 01:23:51,000
and what what we wanted the, the, the posting to look like.

1667
01:23:51,367 --> 01:23:53,033
We posted it over the break

1668
01:23:54,166 --> 01:23:56,467
and then we had meetings after the break.

1669
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,734
So it, it worked out.

1670
01:24:00,734 --> 01:24:03,700
But I just want to point out that it was very much working

1671
01:24:03,700 --> 01:24:04,734
around that winter break.

1672
01:24:04,734 --> 01:24:06,033
And if we want to avoid that,

1673
01:24:06,033 --> 01:24:07,333
then we would have to change the timeline.

1674
01:24:07,333 --> 01:24:09,567
If we're okay with that, then we can stick with what we had.

1675
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:11,233
It's just something to think about.

1676
01:24:12,166 --> 01:24:16,233
- Thought was maybe too, I'm just throwing this out there.

1677
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,467
I haven't really laid too much out,

1678
01:24:18,467 --> 01:24:20,066
but I'm, I'm gonna have it this weekend.

1679
01:24:21,867 --> 01:24:23,066
Haven't done by Christmas.

1680
01:24:24,567 --> 01:24:27,233
I don't know if that's kind of ambitious,

1681
01:24:28,133 --> 01:24:29,734
but I'll see how it lays out.

1682
01:24:29,834 --> 01:24:31,100
It's because we do have holidays

1683
01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:33,100
and stuff coming up in, in different things. So it's

1684
01:24:33,100 --> 01:24:34,100
- Only ambitious just

1685
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:36,000
because it's really early in the school year

1686
01:24:36,166 --> 01:24:39,700
and some people aren't thinking about new positions at

1687
01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:40,767
that point in the school year.

1688
01:24:40,767 --> 01:24:42,367
Right. They're, they're very much

1689
01:24:43,233 --> 01:24:44,500
entrenched in whatever position

1690
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:45,734
they have currently at the time.

1691
01:24:46,433 --> 01:24:47,834
And a lot of people aren't looking.

1692
01:24:48,867 --> 01:24:49,934
- Are you saying have the posting

1693
01:24:50,133 --> 01:24:51,133
- Out by Christmas or the committee?

1694
01:24:51,333 --> 01:24:53,266
No, he's saying have it done, have someone selected.

1695
01:24:53,567 --> 01:24:55,734
Oh, hold on.

1696
01:24:56,166 --> 01:24:58,500
And I, and I, I just don't, I don't know that we would have,

1697
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:01,934
I don't know that we would have a strong applicant field.

1698
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,433
I feel like if we, if we have our ducks in a row,

1699
01:25:08,033 --> 01:25:11,100
post it over the break, see

1700
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:12,467
what we've got when we come back from the break,

1701
01:25:13,367 --> 01:25:18,100
maybe post again and then have it done by early March.

1702
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:21,367
Like we did. I feel like, I feel like

1703
01:25:21,367 --> 01:25:23,000
that was much more reasonable and we had a,

1704
01:25:23,066 --> 01:25:24,066
and we would have a stronger,

1705
01:25:24,533 --> 01:25:27,100
stronger applicant pool later in the school

1706
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:28,000
year versus earlier.

1707
01:25:29,033 --> 01:25:30,767
I'm not saying we, we couldn't find someone.

1708
01:25:31,133 --> 01:25:33,300
I'm just saying that not a lot of people are looking

1709
01:25:34,166 --> 01:25:36,233
in October and November for a new job

1710
01:25:36,233 --> 01:25:38,133
because they've just started the one they have.

1711
01:25:38,533 --> 01:25:39,867
- Are we able to open it up

1712
01:25:39,867 --> 01:25:42,100
and then potentially extend it based on the

1713
01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:43,100
- Candidates?

1714
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:45,000
Yeah, so I mean we could post in October

1715
01:25:46,567 --> 01:25:47,900
and see what we've got

1716
01:25:48,834 --> 01:25:52,233
and if the committee feels that we've got, you know, two

1717
01:25:52,567 --> 01:25:55,900
or three, or not two, not two, three

1718
01:25:55,900 --> 01:25:59,266
or four really strong candidates, then we could go ahead

1719
01:25:59,266 --> 01:26:01,934
with a, with the interviews and do the whole thing.

1720
01:26:02,500 --> 01:26:04,834
And if it doesn't work out, then we have the January

1721
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,467
through March cushion to work with.

1722
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,500
I mean there, there's always kind

1723
01:26:08,500 --> 01:26:12,033
of like a double dip there if you are so inclined. Hmm.

1724
01:26:12,734 --> 01:26:14,066
- We're doing this ourselves again.

1725
01:26:14,700 --> 01:26:16,133
- Yes. Sooner,

1726
01:26:16,266 --> 01:26:18,033
but it might be better to get the process out.

1727
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:19,100
Sure.

1728
01:26:20,233 --> 01:26:22,700
- Well that's why I'm, that's why I'm gonna set something up

1729
01:26:23,033 --> 01:26:24,767
and then we'll discuss it at the next one.

1730
01:26:24,767 --> 01:26:27,300
Yeah, for sure. And we can extend it, cut it back,

1731
01:26:27,867 --> 01:26:31,367
do options and probably need

1732
01:26:31,367 --> 01:26:35,000
to tweak the description a little bit and, and a few things.

1733
01:26:35,066 --> 01:26:38,500
But one question I do have for everybody is

1734
01:26:39,734 --> 01:26:42,734
do we want to get MA SC involved?

1735
01:26:42,900 --> 01:26:44,634
No. Or do we wanna do it ourselves? We wanna

1736
01:26:44,634 --> 01:26:45,634
- Do it ourselves.

1737
01:26:46,767 --> 01:26:47,867
- Anybody else? I don't know.

1738
01:26:47,934 --> 01:26:50,300
- I think there is some merit to having MASC involved.

1739
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,100
Not at all. And I think we should discuss that for sure.

1740
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:54,100
Yeah,

1741
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:57,066
- I don't like having them handle it.

1742
01:26:57,233 --> 01:26:58,634
I will say that much. Sure.

1743
01:26:58,934 --> 01:27:01,834
I think we've, I think we've done basically a couple,

1744
01:27:02,333 --> 01:27:04,500
I think we have learned from it

1745
01:27:04,700 --> 01:27:06,834
and we will, we can discuss that,

1746
01:27:07,934 --> 01:27:10,934
but I think we are totally capable of handling it

1747
01:27:11,667 --> 01:27:15,066
and I just think they, I,

1748
01:27:17,667 --> 01:27:19,066
how do I put this and be nice.

1749
01:27:21,934 --> 01:27:26,100
I think they have an agenda

1750
01:27:26,133 --> 01:27:28,000
sometimes with people. They,

1751
01:27:28,033 --> 01:27:29,467
- They definitely stick their thumb on

1752
01:27:29,467 --> 01:27:30,567
the scale if they feel

1753
01:27:31,233 --> 01:27:32,233
- That way.

1754
01:27:32,233 --> 01:27:32,867
That's a good way to put it. Yeah.

1755
01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:35,100
And so I,

1756
01:27:35,667 --> 01:27:39,000
I think we can be much more impartial and we can be much more.

1757
01:27:39,500 --> 01:27:40,634
And I think, like I said,

1758
01:27:40,634 --> 01:27:43,100
we've done a basically done a couple, I think

1759
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:45,500
we have a pretty good idea of what we're doing

1760
01:27:46,734 --> 01:27:49,100
and not pretty good idea.

1761
01:27:49,166 --> 01:27:50,567
I think we have a good idea of what we're doing

1762
01:27:51,033 --> 01:27:53,433
and I, I definitely think that we can handle it

1763
01:27:53,433 --> 01:27:56,634
with some adjustments that based off of

1764
01:27:57,066 --> 01:27:58,934
what people didn't like and like before.

1765
01:27:59,367 --> 01:28:03,867
So I think we should be doing it. Why not?

1766
01:28:04,533 --> 01:28:05,767
- Yeah. Alright.

1767
01:28:06,634 --> 01:28:07,700
- Without being rude

1768
01:28:07,700 --> 01:28:10,000
or anything, we have to sort of live

1769
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,100
with whoever gets chosen, so we probably should

1770
01:28:14,133 --> 01:28:16,900
have our fingers into everything we can

1771
01:28:17,033 --> 01:28:22,033
and instead of relying on someone else to, to sort of

1772
01:28:22,934 --> 01:28:25,433
drive the bus, I guess is the best way to put it.

1773
01:28:26,033 --> 01:28:28,033
- That's a little on the nose for you there, Brian. Yes,

1774
01:28:28,033 --> 01:28:29,300
- It's, yeah, I know. That's

1775
01:28:29,300 --> 01:28:30,066
- Okay. I'll allow it.

1776
01:28:30,767 --> 01:28:34,500
- I know. So

1777
01:28:36,734 --> 01:28:38,033
if there's no more discussion on that,

1778
01:28:38,433 --> 01:28:40,500
we will have no communications.

1779
01:28:40,834 --> 01:28:42,133
Our next meeting is 9 23.

1780
01:28:42,133 --> 01:28:43,467
- Oh, I actually just wanted to say

1781
01:28:43,467 --> 01:28:44,500
just really quickly Okay.

1782
01:28:44,700 --> 01:28:46,100
With me having the day off today

1783
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:48,000
because of, you know, Springfield being closed,

1784
01:28:49,266 --> 01:28:52,033
the principals graciously welcomed me into their schools

1785
01:28:52,033 --> 01:28:54,033
today and I was able to kind of walk around

1786
01:28:54,133 --> 01:28:56,700
and get a feel for how the year is starting out

1787
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,634
and I could not be more impressed

1788
01:29:00,734 --> 01:29:02,634
what a difference the leadership at this

1789
01:29:02,634 --> 01:29:03,867
high school has made.

1790
01:29:04,133 --> 01:29:06,100
I mean, I walked around for a good bit.

1791
01:29:06,333 --> 01:29:08,634
I didn't see any stray kids just wandering around,

1792
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:10,367
peeked my head into classrooms.

1793
01:29:10,367 --> 01:29:14,000
Nobody was on their phones. Every classroom I looked in,

1794
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,066
the kids were engaged,

1795
01:29:15,734 --> 01:29:17,033
they were doing what they're supposed to be doing.

1796
01:29:17,133 --> 01:29:18,567
The teachers were actively involved.

1797
01:29:21,467 --> 01:29:24,467
And I just, I just want to give a big shout out

1798
01:29:24,567 --> 01:29:26,133
to all three principals

1799
01:29:26,133 --> 01:29:29,066
and assistants that are supporting them

1800
01:29:29,734 --> 01:29:32,000
and I just feel like we're off to a really good start

1801
01:29:32,567 --> 01:29:34,066
and you could feel it in all the buildings.

1802
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,133
So I just wanted to make sure I put that out there

1803
01:29:38,567 --> 01:29:42,367
- To you inform the central office you were doing that?

1804
01:29:42,634 --> 01:29:47,233
Yes. Okay. Anything else?

1805
01:29:49,166 --> 01:29:50,934
No communications nor other business.

1806
01:29:52,367 --> 01:29:57,367
I'll make the motion to adjourn at 8:07 PM We have a second.

1807
01:29:57,667 --> 01:30:01,367
Second. All in favor, Kevin? Aye. Julie? Aye. Aye.

1808
01:30:01,367 --> 01:30:03,066
Myself, Mike. Aye Mel.

1809
01:30:03,734 --> 01:30:04,000
- Aye.