1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,840 there it goes there it is okay watch behind you all right you're 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:16,080 on okay it's 3:15 we're going to call the 3:00 meeting of the war County 3 00:00:13,599 --> 00:00:20,240 election board to order uh first let's do the roll 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:33,600 call py here Nancy here I'm here as well all three of us are here 5 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:40,600 um next thing on the agenda is the approval of minutes of September 17 2024 6 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:43,879 I'm going to ask that we uh postpone on that so table that to the next meeting 7 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:48,039 just because of the fact that we just got them today had two meetings so close 8 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:52,199 together we had a chance to read the minutes just to confirm it rather do 9 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:57,480 that than through it that's my motion is that we table it do we have a second all 10 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:03,519 right uh all in favor say I I 11 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:10,200 I so three nothing okay um election day number of 12 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:15,520 machines workers at vat centers 13 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:22,799 so we've done some work on that subject over the past uh week or 14 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:26,759 so and only PR a couple of them it's okay people can just 15 00:01:24,479 --> 00:01:35,680 talk this is shorthand for what's going to be changed 16 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:40,040 in um the idea was originally so at last week's board minut meeting we started 17 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:46,360 off with the uh suggestion of 93 machines I think we' have now decided 18 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:51,360 that 93 machines even at the by the end of the meeting we had already gone up to 19 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:57,399 118 and now looking at things and having received more input from the people here 20 00:01:54,479 --> 00:02:05,240 at the meeting and uh microtee uh and further conversation 21 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:11,000 uh the uh suggestion is now or my suggestion is that we have 147 machines 22 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:16,200 now there are a few things I want to just chat through on that I have the 23 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:21,440 list out there so everyone can see it um one one question that I have so one of 24 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:25,599 the ideas was is that we want to sort of almost have too many machines or over 25 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:30,560 have machines in a couple locations right so we want to make sure that we 26 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:35,400 have more machines than we need um in some of our busiest areas right so 27 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:41,800 what are our busiest areas are the town of Newberg and the town or the city of 28 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:48,519 Boonville and so the idea was that we would have uh 20 machines which is 29 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:54,599 basically double the original suggestion in three different locations those 30 00:02:51,599 --> 00:03:01,640 locations are the trustees office and the Living Word Church and at the 31 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:05,640 Boonville Library so one research topic that we had coming into today and I 32 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:11,680 think that both Nancy and Patty were going to look into this was would the 33 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:17,040 Boonville Library be able to hold 20 machines I was there today and I'm happy 34 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:21,200 to say that yes they will and they have a lot of outlets as well perfect so I 35 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,040 think that was a concern that a couple people have said maybe we won't have 36 00:03:22,599 --> 00:03:28,720 enough room so it's good to hear that we have in the room um and we're we were 37 00:03:26,799 --> 00:03:33,480 already pretty confident on the other two I believe word church and the 38 00:03:31,799 --> 00:03:37,400 trustees office right and I do have a phone call in to Mr Kaufman but he 39 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:43,720 hasn't called me back yet I've spoke with him personally this morning okay 40 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:48,760 and he said absolutely no problem great excellent and the idea being that if a 41 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:53,200 smaller location gets overwhelmed they can at least suggest to 42 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:57,959 people that you have another location just a few minutes away that you can go 43 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:05,959 to um hopefully we won't need that we are investing in having more Ma 44 00:04:00,519 --> 00:04:12,120 prepared uh so that no location will um be um 45 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:20,120 overwhelmed and if you'll note so the the primary go is at 288,000 so that's 46 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:26,720 uh um that's a high estimate we haven't had more than 23,000 in election War 47 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:32,720 county is growing but 23,000 I should say in person on Election Day 48 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:36,919 um and so but work count is growing so we wanted to overestimate rather than 49 00:04:40,039 --> 00:04:48,440 underestimate additionally on that note one of the things that I think the board 50 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:56,000 has talked about is making sure that people know about early voting where the 51 00:04:50,880 --> 00:05:01,680 early voting is we have uh flyers on both tables and we have more here that 52 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:07,199 people can take scan them in on social media post them at a grocery store 53 00:05:05,039 --> 00:05:11,720 message boards but I'm hoping that people that are invested in the election 54 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:16,600 which be the people in this room are sending out that message I plan on 55 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:22,240 having that uh uh putting that on social media tonight myself just 56 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:29,759 personally and if I can add Paul we will start putting out 57 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:35,440 banners uh the Friday prior to when early voting 58 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:42,199 starts so at the judicial Center it'll be the Friday 59 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:49,960 prior they are large banners Kim me 6x4 I believe three three there 6 by3 60 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:56,080 banners and each location will have a banner and we kind of do the overkill 61 00:05:53,120 --> 00:06:01,720 with the small signs as well V signs vote here we have those two there so the 62 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:06,840 three voting places the J Center the Township community center and the limo 63 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:14,039 Community Center will have a b yes sir 64 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:22,280 perfect um so I sent this out earlier to you guys have you two had a chance to 65 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,280 look at the proposal as far as the V for 66 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:30,199 panel I did yes just one 67 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:37,000 recommendation we need to make sure sure that everyone knows that there has to be 68 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:42,000 at least one vote on every single machine so I talked to Steve about that 69 00:06:40,039 --> 00:06:46,319 and he said we they all machines have to be accounted for but we don't actually 70 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:49,440 have to have a vote at them anymore is what he told me today because I actually 71 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,599 asked that question and we can talk about that online we can talk about that 72 00:06:51,120 --> 00:07:00,479 offline with but uh I remember what I was talking about last week and ask he's 73 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:07,319 like well so it was in his suggestion was to have three machines back here uh 74 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:13,919 that we could send out on Election Day if it if a place was overwhelmed but 75 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:17,000 then he also told me that um there would be some challenges with doing that 76 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,080 because we'd have to take that Boat Center down for a little while to get 77 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:27,560 that boat in uh integrated into the with the 78 00:07:25,599 --> 00:07:34,080 rest of them and so it might cause more confusion than it solves a 79 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:41,720 while so I was actually thinking maybe we don't do that but um do you remember 80 00:07:38,919 --> 00:07:47,080 if we did that before they've always required one there had to be one vote on 81 00:07:44,479 --> 00:07:50,879 one machine I don't know if there I don't know if something aware of 82 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:55,319 something changing that there has to be a vote on every machine so I actually 83 00:07:53,560 --> 00:08:02,479 had Steve on uh I'll 84 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,479 just do put on speaker 85 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:09,720 phone this is our vendor Steve shamoo at 86 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:18,039 micro hi Steve this is Paul Rudolph in the war County election board can you 87 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:23,879 hear me okay hey how you guys doing good good good good so um we're just sort of 88 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:29,720 working through the process I sort of have my gen my my uh Excel spreadsheet 89 00:08:27,319 --> 00:08:34,800 that we had talked about previously and one thing that Patty and I wanted to 90 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:38,039 make sure you two were saying the same thing maybe it's just my 91 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:42,880 misunderstanding Patty was saying that all panels have to have at least one 92 00:08:40,839 --> 00:08:47,279 vote recorded on them which I thought was slightly different than what you 93 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:54,600 said so I wanted to that that has changed um sincey became clerk that is 94 00:08:50,839 --> 00:09:03,000 um you can um you can tally a machine out with no votes on it um and get a 95 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:07,279 that is readable we try to get them to put at least one v on it in the we tell 96 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:14,920 them in the poker classes they set it up to atast it so we 97 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:21,040 know certain that that machine wasi out and we receive the card back meally 98 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:30,240 cani perfect um is that good Patty yes all right thank you Steve so just to 99 00:09:29,079 --> 00:09:34,800 confirm so you were suggesting that in addition 100 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:40,399 to the 147 panels that we've talked about having like three in reserve that 101 00:09:36,959 --> 00:09:48,360 could be uh brought out if necessary is that correct yeah yeah okay so that make 102 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:54,000 us a nice even 150 I see 148 did I get the wrong that was the old one I did a 103 00:09:50,000 --> 00:10:01,320 new one um so after I changed the mat a little bit after talking to Steve um 104 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,320 thought I have one more steal this one 105 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:10,200 back but yes that one and that's what everyone else has you had a higher 106 00:10:07,959 --> 00:10:16,839 version I basically only CH changed the Elberfeld colish station because it had 107 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,839 like 150 BS per person per 108 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:32,240 pan so 147 panels and three in 109 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:38,600 reserve uh so are we good on that I don't I'm sorry I don't 110 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:44,760 understand the Elberfeld firey station you took it back down to four to five to 111 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:52,440 five to five oh I could read that sorry yeah that that my printer not the best 112 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:57,760 get yeah I had it at six and then but it was only like 150 votes per panel while 113 00:10:54,959 --> 00:11:03,040 the other ones were higher than that uh and for Steve just be clear takes about 114 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:06,440 3 minutes at a machine to vote so 3 minutes and that's with transfering in 115 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:14,760 transfering out so give or take you can do up to 20 an hour um for machine and 116 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:20,680 polls are open for 12 hours correct so you do more if you try really 117 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:28,240 hard but so 118 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:32,279 147 plus three can office how does that seem to you guys 119 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:41,959 N I like that number pretty much okay Pat what do you think as 120 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:48,320 well Steve we've always had even numbers at the polling location that got so that 121 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:55,680 doesn't matter no no doesn't matter at all and as far 122 00:11:51,200 --> 00:12:00,839 as the pole pads and the number of um 123 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:09,000 got you'll I think when you get up to where you have those machines that the 124 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:17,199 where you have the locations that have 20 125 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:20,720 and 2020 and 15 yep you you want to get a you have plent 126 00:12:23,839 --> 00:12:32,040 ofs so I I did not put P pads on sorry so we 127 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:37,440 so I'll just circle them so just to be clear we're saying Boonville Library 128 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:44,519 Living Word Church Ohio Township trustees office and Newberg American 129 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:44,519 Legion would Al all receive a third 130 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:58,000 pack and lville library and Newberg American 131 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:03,480 Legion would also receive two more workers to what we already talk for go 132 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:03,480 to 9 133 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:17,959 seven because at that point there's more machine volume available capacity than 134 00:13:15,079 --> 00:13:26,000 there is people so we have to add people to make the machines or 135 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:26,000 voters sounds weird 136 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:35,800 how many how many early maches you guys was it 137 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:47,600 20 sounds right 66 and four 66 and four I think was more 138 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,600 that 139 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:07,399 six no we changed it to 68 and two six where six at the judicial office 140 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,399 eight in Newberg two in 141 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:20,279 Lyon those on Monday 142 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:26,120 awesome um okay 143 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:31,040 so talked about panels talked about uh pull pass 144 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:36,360 talk about workers are we good to accept this as 145 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:47,880 it okay I'll entertain I will second it I'll make the motion then sorry a 146 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:55,040 second so motion made by Paul and seconded by 147 00:14:50,959 --> 00:15:00,360 Nancy to adjust and I should probably mention well I'll mention after the 148 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:09,920 meeting um or not after the after the vote to adjust to the spreadsheet as 149 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:14,480 modified all D say I I motion carries three to nothing um I did want to also 150 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:19,160 mention that I took the initiative to talk to Brad Overton president of the 151 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:27,000 war County Council know that this would have follow some increased expense um 152 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:33,319 and um there was not um that was understood so obviously you 153 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:37,000 can't talk for the council but having a better plan 154 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:46,160 to um so that's the only item on the agenda um we do have one item of 155 00:15:44,759 --> 00:15:54,519 additional business um and I'll share that so 156 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:59,639 um early voting bouts have been released uh they've been received um and we have 157 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:07,440 already identified an issue there's a small issue in Chandler where uh 158 00:16:03,319 --> 00:16:12,600 Chandler changed from being um Precinct where you only vote for your Precinct to 159 00:16:09,319 --> 00:16:18,720 at large rote for the entire uh town of Chandler uh for their Town Council and U 160 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:25,360 that changed in 2022 and our updated ballots did not 161 00:16:22,199 --> 00:16:30,199 reflect that so we are there should be no issue for the either the early voting 162 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:34,639 and it'll be um resolve well before the early voting and before the day in 163 00:16:32,319 --> 00:16:41,000 voting however we will need to reprint 30 or less ballots um and send 164 00:16:38,319 --> 00:16:45,279 those out to people uh we expect to resolve this within the next week um and 165 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:51,880 make sure that everyone is either notified or has a new ballot in their 166 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:58,360 hand at that point in time so today so that's 9:30 is the public test we expect 167 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:03,760 everyone to be aware of it by that or at least to attempt to communicate with 168 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:10,280 them can't promise that they'll receive it in the public test is that is at 169 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:17,319 11:00 a.m. a week from today um one other piece of new business 170 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:22,559 is so um as I think most people know um what I've have been to previous meetings 171 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:26,400 such as the work on Council uh when the public introduces himself or as some 172 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:30,799 public comment uh they typically identify themselves gives their name 173 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:36,720 whether they live in Boonville Newberg hler Etc um and so probably be a good 174 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:43,160 idea for us to do the same here we did not do that last week uh but I would 175 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:47,280 request uh that public comment is provided that they share their 176 00:17:50,039 --> 00:17:57,880 name is there any other additional business can I can I add something on 177 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:04,280 those those ballots that have already been sent out Chandler yep so you guys 178 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:11,039 are your plan is to submit are you ISS new BS to everyone across theard I think 179 00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:15,480 we were only going to uh correct the the so just to be clear uh Steve and 180 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:21,400 everyone this only became identified early this afternoon uh so you're 181 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:26,200 getting new information that we at least my original thought was we 182 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:32,159 would only identify the incorrect ballots and adjust those if there's that 183 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:37,039 says we need to do otherwise uh obviously we would entertain that but 184 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:41,720 what do you mean by adjust them meaning sending them new ones okay I think 185 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:48,360 there's a I would double check with Brad King on that 186 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:53,840 process there's usually a a letter that goes out that let them know there was a 187 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:57,480 ballot error and then they um request another 188 00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:02,679 ballot um if they want to if not that other ballot goes in complication is is 189 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:08,440 we we have to utilize two separate databases to accommodate those ones that 190 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:14,120 went out and they chose not to correct them um but I think if you're following 191 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:19,960 the letter of law I would definitely confer with Brad 192 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:23,039 king or Angie n Meer for that process I'm just to make certain we're within 193 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:29,200 the Lanes on that there has been a conversation with Angie already um but 194 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:33,120 yes more conversation again this is sort of late breaking news so we don't 195 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:38,039 necessarily even have um I'm wondering do we need to vote I think we probably 196 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:44,600 need to vote based upon the statute uh that we're going to correct it I think 197 00:19:39,799 --> 00:19:48,320 that would make sense um so 31162 section 198 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:59,440 A if they return the first bot and they don't return the second one that we're 199 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:02,559 into a slightly different SC was 200 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:09,679 2 you have the right 201 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:18,000 number so if an election board determines that a ballot printed under 202 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:21,080 the authority of election board does not comply with the requirement imposed by 203 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,679 this title or contains any other error mission that might result in confusion 204 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:29,159 or mistakes by voters the board shall reprint or collect the correct the 205 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:34,520 ballot is number one um or conduct a public hearing 206 00:20:32,679 --> 00:20:40,039 so I think 207 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:43,360 the correct so I think we need to have a motion to correct the 208 00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:48,880 ballot I will second that motion that 209 00:20:50,240 --> 00:21:00,919 correct so Nancy's motion to correct the ballot all is 210 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:03,600 seconded all in favor say i i i motion carries three to 211 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:17,760 nothing correct what happens is is that uh in the past chander voted in 212 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:21,159 districts right so district one voted for district one representative district 213 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:26,159 two voted for District 2's representative etc etc uh now they're 214 00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:31,720 going to at large voting where if if you're in Chandler you vote for all the 215 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:35,360 representatives not just the one for your district 216 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,000 do I believe the answer is 217 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:54,320 yes the all in one office um I have a copy of the ordinance in front of me um 218 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:59,159 and I believe the answer is yes to that but let me confirm and we'll give you a 219 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:05,799 copy of that ordinance um it's enough pages I don't want to try 220 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:09,600 to analyze it on the telephone with you but I think the answer is 221 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:26,559 yes from this point forward and it was LGE out of orever it was 222 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:36,159 um that um they do they have do these have straight party AFF 223 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:39,080 also yes okay so that disconnected from the straight party 224 00:22:39,279 --> 00:22:46,240 voting the B 68 and then so 225 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:59,720 current right and now it's going to have all three districts on it correct I 226 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:04,520 think there are two Chandler C up for election I think this 227 00:23:02,919 --> 00:23:09,799 election paron correctly I think there's two in the 228 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,799 presidential two in the off 229 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,000 presidential 230 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,240 okay 231 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,279 um any other additional 232 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:33,799 business Okay so we're going to keep you on the phone for a minute and open this 233 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:33,799 up to public 234 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:40,640 comment does anyone have a comment or 235 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:51,360 question great Ohio Township um terms of pole 236 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:55,120 pads if you've got 20 voting machines over there that means you've got a PR 237 00:23:52,679 --> 00:23:59,039 substantial line of Voters you know you can have three four maybe even five P 238 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:02,679 pads right um let's see the largest the largest 239 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:07,440 group we're going to have is going to have nine workers which means they'll 240 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:17,080 have in theory four qus M so we have lots of as as 241 00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:27,159 know on October 21st myor saying is there's no expense I was just concerned 242 00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:34,240 about having people to man multiple p ps and just having that 243 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,240 that in the judicial what's the 244 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:41,880 point to fil through the people through the I think we're putting a lot of 245 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:49,200 machines out there that's great but now I think we may have moved the point to 246 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:52,799 the you and so three or four pull pads would be 247 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:57,880 great so certainly any of the ones that we've already got to three the ones with 248 00:24:55,559 --> 00:25:02,000 15 or 20 you know the places that have four they going to be fine that but the 249 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:10,640 places that have 10 and 11 and 250 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:16,520 15 that's let let's feed those machines what's your suggestion Greg um did you 251 00:25:14,399 --> 00:25:23,279 say the lar on the 252 00:25:19,159 --> 00:25:28,559 lares so four for the with 20 again you know the inspector runs 253 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:34,240 their runsun um at locations I've worked at runs I'm 254 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,200 sorry I couldn't hear you sorry the inspector runs their location I'm not 255 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:41,080 going to try to tell an inspector how to do their job but the locations I've 256 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:45,679 worked at you know we shift people around you know if we've got lots of 257 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:49,039 people stacking up and and we need to get them onto the machines then we we'll 258 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:53,200 take people and start all you're now a judge we'll put people on machines um 259 00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:57,600 you know if we got a bunch of people in line and machines are sitting empty sit 260 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:01,919 people down and you're a clerk sign people in you know we we try to be as 261 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:07,520 flexible as possible to get as many voters through the process as Qui we 262 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:16,399 can so you would suggest four at the ones with 20 and then three for the ones 263 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:23,240 with 15 11 and 10 not I mean does that complicate things P like 264 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:28,399 does anyone feel like that's causes any challenges logistical having more p ps 265 00:26:25,399 --> 00:26:34,760 or is it just not an issue I the only thing I would worry about is and I did 266 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:42,799 hear this that they were checking people in giving them their slip of 267 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:51,039 paper and then allowed them to sit down or step back and what happens in that 268 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:57,000 case is it causes the pole pads numbers to be off from the machine numbers 269 00:26:54,360 --> 00:27:05,919 that's the only thing I ever say Kimmy what do you say what are 270 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:12,640 you so that our checkins are the same as what's on the machine I just don't want 271 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,640 confusion in the Boat 272 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:26,480 Center can only Che so many at a time how many can we well if you if you 273 00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:33,640 had the three you can check in three people obviously and send them that you 274 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,640 know that get into that process to the 275 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,840 machine the judge 276 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:51,200 actually and so having three or four might be doable but 277 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,200 no more than that 278 00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:06,440 that's when starts that's what I was talking 279 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:12,279 yeah the primary at Living Word it's a very large room there lots of chairs in 280 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:17,840 that room we had a table we would check people in take their s on the table at 281 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:22,320 times we had on that table those were people who were been checked in were 282 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:27,679 sing the chairs waiting to vote and I really don't think that's I'm sorry 283 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:31,960 that's sometimes how receipts get lost why they stay right there on the table 284 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:38,760 don't give it we don't give it to to the person those receipts can blow off and 285 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:44,640 that my concern is they could get lost and I think that I remember going into 286 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:49,000 to Living Word to deliver the two extra machines I'm sorry we had two extra 287 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,840 machines deliver during the day I yeah I didn't bring those though I brought I 288 00:28:51,480 --> 00:29:00,399 brought something else I think it was paper but anyway it the system looked 289 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:09,679 good I thought but you have to worry about losing those slips of paper and I 290 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,679 mean that's just I'm just telling you my 291 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,519 feelings I'm 292 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:28,320 sorry of receips that to that receipt because bring the 293 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:28,320 Mach multiple encoding cards watch right 294 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:42,799 Associated it was a great card for us with that on the table and they 295 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:47,080 ranged in order so that we knew next machine's available Jo stand front of 296 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:52,840 that group of people and Jo would stand up and take 297 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:59,519 over did you ever have anybody get out of line 298 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:03,559 and Jane blow up and the other I'm just asking out of curiosity um I think at 299 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:08,519 one point we had two voters with the same name you're welcome 300 00:30:05,399 --> 00:30:12,919 bye and we uh we identified the confusion right 301 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:17,039 away when we pulled up we took one voter over the machine pull up their ballot 302 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,440 and it wasn't the right ballot for them and so 303 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:28,679 that's if you were to put it in a second time it will not bring up a ballot corre 304 00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:33,320 so it would have for that to happen cards 305 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,320 would have 306 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:42,720 had I don't recall if we had to manually bring up the ballot for the voter or not 307 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:46,519 using the MasterCard um I think we were able to do it we were able to handle it 308 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:51,679 without doing that we just went out and found the second Fred snarf had brought 309 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:56,519 him up and had him vote on the machine that had his ballot and then the next 310 00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:02,760 machine which that other voter that was the correct Steve uh it's Kim Kelly I 311 00:31:00,639 --> 00:31:06,880 vaguely remember in class that throughout the years that you 312 00:31:04,679 --> 00:31:11,080 recommended not really checking in over like seven for that reason I mean is 313 00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:17,320 that reasonable the concern has always been 314 00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:23,679 that you know if you enter aing site and you scan your driver's license and Che 315 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:29,080 you can leave that s in return but once you check in if you decide to leave 316 00:31:26,679 --> 00:31:34,519 between the che and 317 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,519 Ma you're 318 00:31:34,639 --> 00:31:45,679 not why I always try to keep an of like people or so Che so I don't have you 319 00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:45,679 know 320 00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:56,840 subus the usually rests will be on the of that line so if I had 20 people 321 00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:01,760 waiting after check somebody goes to the restroom techically shouldn't be allowed 322 00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:08,240 back to the other side of the table you know believe 323 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:11,519 name you know get how you control the room in the flow of the room and at 324 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Living Word we definitely had the benefit of having all those chairs 325 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:21,480 available and and that that space available um at first Christian 326 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:26,159 previously um you know we would basically we would have I think four or 327 00:32:24,399 --> 00:32:30,039 five people and then we'd tell the clerks to stop checking people in 328 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,880 until we until we cleared those people and got them onto a machine and then we 329 00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:38,120 say okay start start up again um again it's just a matter of managing your your 330 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:46,240 your pulling place and that's that's really expec yeah so let me uh try to 331 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:50,679 move this into a uh quantify this so how did you go with four at the on with 20 332 00:32:49,399 --> 00:32:52,880 based on that or do you want to keep it at 333 00:32:53,639 --> 00:33:00,760 three I I we could do four can you be at each Bo Center 334 00:33:00,919 --> 00:33:11,039 FR you need to keep some a whole bunch of really pissed 335 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:14,320 off just the ones with 20 panels Legion the the trustees office and the 336 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:24,760 Boonville and then I think that maybe we bump the ones with uh like the ones that 337 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:30,960 have 15 11 and 10 panels to three that would be Abundant 338 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:38,399 Life uh uh the American Legion and the J Community 339 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,399 Center so that's a total how 340 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,600 many election day you have 341 00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:55,840 begin correct yep and then we've added one to 342 00:33:54,159 --> 00:34:01,279 three other ones that'll be 43 okay and then 343 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:07,799 you have a total of 47 in the county some of those will be used for 344 00:34:03,639 --> 00:34:12,480 early voting but that is not an issue you cannot use early voting voting 345 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:19,760 machines again on Election Day because of the vote type 346 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:24,399 separ for you can Rec those from early voting for election day but we want to 347 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:28,520 make certain we take the proper steps to make certain that all the early voting 348 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:34,200 um checkins are secure within the central 349 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:39,679 software before we reassign it to a location but that's it's a very simple 350 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:45,079 process and it's very easy to verify so and that could be done with our person 351 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,079 on staff on 352 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:51,240 Monday elction 353 00:34:51,480 --> 00:35:01,119 perfect I think on the panels the total is not right it's been brought 354 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,119 to my attention by 355 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,079 two12 42 it's possible 356 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:18,359 46475 y I got 151 151 plus the three I'm guessing 357 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:22,280 there was a form ER I don't take credit for that we take con 358 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,520 and still three in reserve call 359 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:37,480 yeah so all 360 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,480 right is there additional public 361 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:40,839 comment 362 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:58,480 julan the the question I'm having is having more in leg and we had 20 30 363 00:35:53,760 --> 00:36:04,160 minute late to hold in the primary okay and your your correction here from the 364 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:14,480 last meeting adding the polling machines or the panels is is is is spot on 365 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:19,160 except we all know we all know that this is a general election and we all know 366 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:23,359 we're going to V more people here this says in the 367 00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:30,319 2020 we voted 71% okay 368 00:36:25,839 --> 00:36:37,560 and we still have 9,000 people in W town to and and I'm using round numb 369 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:44,800 the and I know the uh I don't want to see any kind of U voter suppression by 370 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:50,400 pulling up and you got a line from here to the other block waiting to to vote I 371 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:56,720 know the blueville library had in the primary had an hour and a half weight 372 00:36:52,280 --> 00:37:04,119 sometimes is what I was told and they I don't have the figures here for the uh 373 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:11,079 machines but I respected the committee's choice on adding machines but I still 374 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:15,920 feel as a concerned citizen as a concerned citizen that we're still short 375 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,960 machines at some of these locations that's going to vote these large numbers 376 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:26,280 and they're going to be sticking out the door because we voted 193 machines 377 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:31,800 according to this according to this in the uh in the 2020 General and they was 378 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:36,920 still our weights then you know and and I'm just W to when 379 00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:44,160 we send this out to the public and this election board said hey 380 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:48,960 we voted an hour and a half you guys are the ones that are voting or are moving 381 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:57,040 to cut 50 uh sorry 40 382 00:37:53,160 --> 00:38:03,359 47 47 machines off from what we voted in the other General M okay so we're we're 383 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:07,880 voting right now 37 machine short and I don't think that's appropriate I think 384 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:12,359 in the primary you can look at I know you mentioned that it takes three 385 00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:17,200 minutes to vote I'm I'm going to bag to differ with you respectfully cuz I was 386 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:22,319 there and there some people stood there for 10 minutes and didn't know who they 387 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:26,319 would V for that was a really big battle Yeah and and you're you're absolutely 388 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:32,119 right but I don't want to take that away from from walking up say I'm sorry your 389 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:35,920 3 minutes are up you need to no I don't either but respectfully I love the way 390 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:42,160 you added but I think there's still a 391 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:47,079 problem that when we go to these board to this election there's going to be and 392 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:53,280 I understand people's got to wait what's the again but by cutting this election 393 00:38:50,839 --> 00:39:02,200 short we all know how important it is this is a huge we're going to vote more 394 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:08,440 people than 71 this H fin so uh so in my opinion I think we're still short on our 395 00:39:04,839 --> 00:39:15,960 machines and I know there's room uh thank you for the time on this 396 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:22,200 ly explanation I know there's a problem with sitting this room as size that room 397 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:26,240 as size but I think also the people that are 398 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:32,760 voting deserves the respect and the privilege that just because it's it's 399 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:38,040 cost $115 or $100 or whatever they deserve that right to vote in a 400 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:46,160 reasonable time and I understand it's be all right we'll get those in two of them 401 00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:53,480 we're also people short from the 2020 election and people were standing 402 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,480 in 70 are you meaning 403 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:59,800 workers you're welcome that's a good thing right that's because we got rid of 404 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,599 some smaller locations and we're moving to the boat location so I think that 405 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:09,040 we're going to have a a staff that's busier rather than having 40 polling 406 00:40:05,839 --> 00:40:15,200 places we're going to have 17 we have 24 poing 24 uh but still we're having less 407 00:40:12,839 --> 00:40:20,000 is as I but you're still going to have the well on that note right so one of 408 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:25,880 the things I said earlier is we really need to push people into early voting we 409 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:32,520 really need to push in more early voting there's no reason why we should have 80% 410 00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:35,920 of the County voting on Election Day um which is probably going to be what 411 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:40,880 happens anyway but the the the point of the matter we have also have space so we 412 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:45,560 obviously have space constraints Financial constraints people 413 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:49,839 constraints there's a lot of moving Parts we're not even sure that some of 414 00:40:48,319 --> 00:40:52,480 these poll locations will be I me we had to verify in the ones we already 415 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:57,760 increased that they were going to be able to fit machines and so there's a 416 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:04,480 little bit of a balancing act of all these different things and I'm a 417 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:09,680 little concerned about the idea of trying to just pack panels and then they 418 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:16,280 don't work or they don't fit or it's all jumbled um so I do hear uh the concern 419 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:20,640 and clear I I trust me I consider my time valuable 420 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:26,599 too and I hate waiting in line for an hour um have a hard time doing that more 421 00:41:24,359 --> 00:41:31,800 people and less panels because there's no point 20 panels there if you don't 422 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:35,560 have the staff to get people through the well I worked with Steve on the Staffing 423 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:43,400 right and how many panels you need for the staff so Steve's obviously the 424 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:48,640 expert on that so um we did increase you know per Steve I think his answer was 12 425 00:41:46,359 --> 00:41:52,240 uh after 12 panels you need more staff and that's what we've done uh to the 426 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:57,480 point we've actually added you know almost doubled the staff at the larger 427 00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:04,040 location such as the boot of the library uh the Living Word and trustees office I 428 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:09,400 do have a question for Steve um on the election summary report there's a 429 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:12,160 there's a a a statistic uh number of equipment programmed and number of 430 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:19,800 equipment reported does that mean that we had that 431 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:24,280 many panels out in polling places in vot centers or is that just the total number 432 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:28,800 that were programmed and and and not necessarily all of were 433 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:34,960 actually out in use I have 434 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:40,319 many number number ma are the way the system works we don't 435 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:46,599 preassign a number of maches to the software so when we a machine thatal 436 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:52,680 number gets check into thew and then at the end 437 00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:58,079 of when we the it automatically goes in and puts a check next to that serial 438 00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:01,440 number so it's checked back in if you have a discrep at the end let's 439 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,720 say you and it 440 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,960 says 441 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,400 of 442 00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:21,559 we 443 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:29,040 allance for the sake of rep we cank ased 444 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:47,359 inated on it and did not get returned so if there's a report out 445 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:52,200 there there's an imbalance between those two I 446 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,200 guarantee 447 00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:02,520 numers as report okay it's it's not that there was an between the two but there 448 00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:06,680 was just a report that I saw for an earlier election said there was 193 and 449 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:14,119 that that felt like a really large number for the 2020 was the 2020 450 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:22,119 election in 2020 we had 178 machines and 172 people what year was that 451 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:27,800 2020 Steve that was uh the number of machines program plus early voting we 452 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:36,680 called uh to verify that we talked to and a couple days ago that was 178 for 453 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,680 2020 early voting plus plus that was on 454 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:44,960 elal but that total that 193 is what I'm refering 455 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,960 to 456 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,440 that's advance 457 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:04,480 so Steve one of the things that you and I talked about tell me if I'm repeating 458 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:09,319 our conversation incorrectly is that generally you can expect to give or take 459 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:14,640 about 200 votes per machine on Election Day 460 00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:20,079 yes what I consider to be that you know what I would deem a 461 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:25,640 disenfranchise moment would be um if you were if you were 462 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:29,680 expecting to get more votes on the machine than that that's not giv the 463 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:35,920 people their legal three minutes behind the machine in a 12 hour day um but that 464 00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:40,760 does not take into account the volume of people that vote for early voting and 465 00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:46,760 that's our that's our wild card in this is that um with a stronger promotion of 466 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:55,079 early voting we've seen counties nearly 10% for early voting in every given 467 00:45:49,760 --> 00:46:00,960 election so yeah the 240 is really high on machine 468 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:05,760 on an election like this but you may have a particular R in a particular 469 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,760 corner of the 470 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:19,800 county and just to make and I believe the statistic we had is that uh in the 471 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:27,920 2016 and 2020 we had give or take 22,000 to 23,000 votes on Election Day 472 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:32,640 corre 20 you had 473 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:38,079 18823 and of course the Count's grown that in of 12 on Election Day you had 474 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:44,280 22,999 and then in the general of 16 you had 475 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:52,839 22575 so there you can see the impact of your early voting walk early voting I 476 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:57,400 believe your county started doing that for the first time 477 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,720 in 201 it was 478 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,920 leg 479 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,160 and11 12 480 00:47:16,359 --> 00:47:25,160 ands because of the yeah and so just to be clear that 481 00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:32,119 expected votes primary that 28,000 that would be assuming that we grew over 20% 482 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:37,319 between 2020 and 2024 which we did not goow over 483 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:41,480 20% so so that these numbers are't play in a sort of a worst case scenario just 484 00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:46,240 to make sure everyone's aware also to that as your early voting 485 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:52,119 starts you know we start voting on October 486 00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:58,839 8 and if we see let's say you go to the 8th to the 15th and then you get to the 487 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,839 22nd and you had two weeks of 488 00:48:08,839 --> 00:48:11,839 am 489 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:20,800 many so we would be able to examine weeks after early voting and see if this 490 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:25,680 spreadsheet still feels comfortable after two weeks and then and then go 491 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:30,440 from there but I think I'm comfortable with the spre right now but if for some 492 00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:35,119 reason we see a very low turnout in a particular area then we may look at 493 00:48:32,319 --> 00:48:40,319 those election dayment a little bit different great thank you 494 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:46,599 Steve um should I'll go ahead and move that we 495 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:51,119 add the six pull pads that we discussed I think that that was a good direction 496 00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:57,480 by BR and it will help some of the volume concerns and C that would be um 497 00:48:55,720 --> 00:49:02,319 we going to add one more at 498 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:10,440 Boonville one more at Liv word one more at Ohio Township one more at Newber uher 499 00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:15,680 Legion one more Abundant Life Church and then one more at the Chandler Community 500 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:19,440 Center so that would get us up to the 43 we discussed 501 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:28,720 previously Library Health Care Living work 502 00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:28,720 Legion Abundant Life 503 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,359 so do you think you'll need 504 00:49:39,799 --> 00:49:50,680 to we've already got two more people at so of those six locations that's a good 505 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:55,640 question so uh boonville's already at 9 so I think they're 506 00:49:51,960 --> 00:50:02,200 good Chandler is at seven so I think they're okay 507 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:08,000 living words at 9 Ohio townships at 9 Legions now at 508 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:13,599 7 and a bu of life so they already have you've already added to their 509 00:50:10,359 --> 00:50:16,319 workers um so I guess probably already set it up for a 510 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:30,799 while so I need a second yes I'll second 511 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:36,119 okay motion by Paul and seconded by Nancy to add six pull pads as 512 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:44,240 discussed all in favor say I I passes three 513 00:50:46,359 --> 00:50:54,119 nothing um didn't want to sort of put that on hold and then went to another 514 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:59,240 one uh wanted to address that additional public conversation 515 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,640 we go through the PO PS can you introduce yourself I know just for 516 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:12,359 the before we leave we go through thead and make sure everybody the right 517 00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:12,359 number 518 00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:27,839 yep my question is Steve had said that they can't use the same voting machines 519 00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:33,280 on Election Day as they do on early voting correct 520 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:37,760 so I'm assuming they use like all these early voting dates they use the same 521 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:44,040 machines right yep so are they under camera surveillance 522 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:50,960 the entire time and when are they to these are my questions they're sealed 523 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:57,839 every day they're sealed sealed every at the end of the day we seal everyone 524 00:51:53,240 --> 00:52:01,160 everyone Mach report the seal and room and then the next morning we unlock the 525 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:06,119 room we take the machines out we report the seal numbers and that's done by at 526 00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:11,160 least two workers one and one R and that's recorded on a piece of paper that 527 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:16,520 we' enter into the office at early the machines are initialized on the very 528 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:21,440 first day and then they are not tallied until the Monday before the actual 529 00:52:19,319 --> 00:52:25,799 election day they are not tallied at the location they're brought here to to 530 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:31,079 bville and they are Ted here so they stay at that and locked room in the cage 531 00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:31,079 there's 532 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:43,319 room they're T that night by our by Steve 533 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:47,640 I but what night election well actually they're they're 534 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:54,040 talled throughout the day they they can do the early voting machines earlier or 535 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:57,359 the um absentee ballots when those are canvas and stuff they can go ahead and 536 00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:04,720 running on Election Day on Election 537 00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:04,720 Day okay thank 538 00:53:04,799 --> 00:53:14,799 you additional public comment my name is mar boom Township 7 I think it was U and 539 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:19,480 basically it's a suggestion I mean I was a 540 00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:25,520 coworker you need better training um and better instructions uh where we 541 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:31,680 were at we had four machines and the inspector went through and started we 542 00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:36,920 had them set up early we were RAR to go but she followed the instructions and it 543 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:44,240 wouldn't start up we were like 20 minutes late we had to call the office 544 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:52,040 and get further instructions and they were not what said on paper cuz I helped 545 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:58,119 them uh so I would you know suggest that I hope you know those instructions are 546 00:53:54,119 --> 00:54:04,440 up to date and ready to go uh and I went to the pole worker training it's it's 547 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:11,640 all pretty vague I mean um the people with working on the 548 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:17,760 iPads uh if you don't check people in perfectly the card that comes out it's 549 00:54:14,799 --> 00:54:22,720 bad when you plug it into a machine it locks that machine up and then 550 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:26,720 unfortunately some of the workers said I'll do the next machine I'll go the 551 00:54:24,359 --> 00:54:31,680 next machine I'll do the next machine we had machines locked up for 20 30 minutes 552 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:35,400 before we get them unlocked and that created a 553 00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:41,079 backup and I I got to watching what was going 554 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:47,079 on and I had to correct some people um when they check them in you 555 00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:51,880 got to go through every part of that or next bad car uh and then the lady that 556 00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:56,920 kept plug or the person that kept plugging it in whoa no once you lock one 557 00:54:54,520 --> 00:55:03,240 up let's let's don't lock them all but I have to it's my 558 00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:07,960 job anyway I think the training needs to be a little bit better so people can 559 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:13,720 understand a little better I know everybody's got a phone but the iPads 560 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:20,480 are intimidating and just getting hooked up to the Wi-Fi and stuff people 561 00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:27,319 were they lose it and they unplugged iPad to charge their phone no no no no 562 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:31,599 you can't do that anyway you know a little little better and I 563 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:38,319 have one question and I'm probably ignorant in this fact I know Indiana 564 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:45,480 changed absentee valid the way you apply for them am I correct you have to apply 565 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:51,319 now every voting cycle orever voting we're used to always had to you 566 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:58,480 always had to yeah okay so that didn't change okay okay Steve can you address 567 00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:58,480 his issue on the the 568 00:56:04,359 --> 00:56:11,359 training probably from the encoder card I would 569 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:15,920 say the green yeah they get those cards the master ones they get those mixed up 570 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:19,559 sometimes it happens on every location no this wasn't it 571 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:35,960 on that Monday I think so that's next Monday 572 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:39,359 yeah yes they are see okay I would say more than 573 00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:43,920 anything the we're going to send an extra person down there for the training 574 00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:53,880 classik very famili with County also I would 575 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:59,680 say concerned at that moment after class down and phally go 576 00:56:57,079 --> 00:57:04,119 steps with it after the CL or if you get early 577 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:08,240 grab and then there and then after you still have concerns 578 00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:14,079 after Circle back and then we also a Refresh on that 579 00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:19,839 Monday afternoon before the actual election day 580 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:26,359 itself we'll have we'll have staff down there that day it is is unfortunately 581 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:30,200 have got much more complicated the you know the last 20 years than they were 582 00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:34,880 before with the introduction of more more 583 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:43,599 equipment one I would suggest that if you do have I heard it mentioned 584 00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:43,599 earlier rotated a littleit in that 585 00:57:49,319 --> 00:57:59,200 one the pad and simply just not keeping up with the pace of everything it might 586 00:57:55,240 --> 00:58:03,480 be to rotate that person out but you know that's the job of the inspector get 587 00:58:01,319 --> 00:58:08,640 right I've seen many times where they've been afraid to move a person out of that 588 00:58:05,839 --> 00:58:12,520 chair it's affected the whole day and the income or the output of the 589 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:22,200 election is that how if training will training is 590 00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:26,440 important we need to have good training train process I mean and I I know last 591 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:30,680 election was your first time working right Mark yes so what I would suggest 592 00:58:28,799 --> 00:58:33,920 come when we start early voting and we we did this because we had some people 593 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:39,720 that weren't aable to attend the two classes come and come and watch uh our 594 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:43,760 team and you you're have you're can stay and watch the process I would advise 595 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:49,480 that right I would do it if I were working at first time it is 596 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:55,079 complicated my problem was I I kind of figured out where our problems were like 597 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:58,559 I said they they check people in take the card out 598 00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:04,319 coded that you put into the voting machine that says this is uh John Doe 599 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:10,720 John Smith this who's voting this how he V and it would lock a machine 600 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:15,000 up and they it they did it numerous times and I got to watching how they 601 00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:19,039 weren't checking the people in right yeah there's there's certain places in 602 00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:23,039 the process where you need to take a breath and let the machine catch up to 603 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:27,640 you right and and then take your card out or then move on to the next step 604 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:33,200 what you're saying yes you that's something you teach the 605 00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:39,559 clerk it was mess up in it was a mess up in doing it was a process issue the 606 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:44,480 process and I had to go whoa we can't do this and then actually then the judge 607 00:59:42,359 --> 00:59:50,359 kept locking machine I bet we did that I bet we locked up 40 machines that 608 00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:56,799 day 40 Mach maches and we did it all morning 609 00:59:54,119 --> 01:00:01,440 until I got to watching the process and said whoa no no no no you can't do this 610 00:59:59,319 --> 01:00:06,640 and then she start well this one's locked up so I go no no let's lock this 611 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,559 one up Let the inspector unlock it you got to bring up the separate ballot for 612 01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:17,680 that voter and away we went no no but it was 613 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,680 a repetitive 614 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:27,000 mistake again I mean I'm sorry where were you at sir what location Pon B 615 01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:32,599 sorry oh no and that's that's fine and like I 616 01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:36,520 said it was just it just made it bad because then people had to wait that's 617 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:41,160 when we start to kind of get backed up because the inspector was having to 618 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:46,359 unlock these machines all four of them every 619 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:51,319 time anyway everybody's new at this didn't expect everybody to be perfect 620 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:56,359 I'm new and I was it was a learning and great experience for 621 01:00:53,359 --> 01:01:01,880 me I said the training when i w out of the training I was a little like what 622 01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:06,760 just happened no and I get it it's hard to 623 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:11,400 train people like I said the instructions I went through with the 624 01:01:09,039 --> 01:01:15,920 inspector line by line with those instructions of how to start that 625 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:19,760 machine up we all four of them we were late cuz we couldn't get him to start we 626 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:24,559 had to call the office I don't know who she talk to up there but they find there 627 01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:29,880 was some steps that were left out of the instructions that came with 628 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:33,240 machine anyway that's all I have that was your first time working yes it was 629 01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:39,640 thank you obviously you took control of it I 630 01:01:36,839 --> 01:01:39,640 appreciate 631 01:01:41,079 --> 01:01:48,119 that is it legal for somebody to be in the polling place that's not a voter or 632 01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:52,960 not a worker they have 633 01:01:50,279 --> 01:01:59,160 credentials Watchers do they have credentials have credentials 634 01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:04,079 go in and hang around and observe no no okay I thought that's what you were 635 01:02:00,359 --> 01:02:08,160 indicating he should do early no uh he can come in here and watch the early 636 01:02:05,799 --> 01:02:13,880 voting process and that's the same it's the same process as um he would do on 637 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:18,680 Election Day oh so it's so it's legal for him to come in and watch during 638 01:02:15,279 --> 01:02:23,559 early voting here right okay would be legal for him to come to like Ohio 639 01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:28,000 Township or lville no we prer them to come here we we like for them to come 640 01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:31,599 here because we start early so they can see I mean if he wants to go to the 641 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:36,559 other one and watch as well but we would give him a credential for that but they 642 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:44,000 have to and they have to sign paperwork to get paid I'm sorry Greg they have to 643 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:48,760 sign paperwork to get paid too it's a observation the ones we had last year 644 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:53,119 was the people that or in the spring people that were unable to attend class 645 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:57,359 but you can come and watch the process I'm not saying walk up behind the voter 646 01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:01,440 I'm saying watch out our team does it and then ask them questions when they've 647 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:05,599 got the voter finished so that that would be a learning for 648 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:09,279 you but there would be illegal for him to do that on 649 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:12,760 elction nobody is all he doesn't have credentials nobody's allowed in the Bing 650 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:16,799 place except the pole workers who are credential right members of the election 651 01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:19,760 board who are credential pole Watchers who are credential and of course the 652 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:25,279 voters while they're voting what' you say 653 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:27,760 Steve most the problems I he describ the voting proc 654 01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:38,880 they the of 655 01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:43,640 away were 656 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:58,720 P say lock up what the machine will do is it will not bring up a random 657 01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:02,920 for to use the master to go in so I think that would be something to in the 658 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:08,400 training also just make follow the instruction on the 659 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:14,359 screen device thanks got thumbs up over 660 01:04:11,079 --> 01:04:19,880 here additional public comment just want to finish up on my question earlier yep 661 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:27,559 so and and like I said the 50 panels you added is is a positive start but just 662 01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:32,960 understand on my side you're still 46 less than what you had in the 2020 663 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:39,480 election is that correct no that's way I'm I'm figured we had 193 664 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:45,839 so and in light of that and you say well we I think that was early voting and 665 01:04:41,279 --> 01:04:45,839 regular voting 193 was 666 01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:55,400 yes he said 20203 667 01:05:04,359 --> 01:05:11,160 2020 2020 not many 668 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,920 in20 don't 669 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:37,480 I so that number that's 193 I believe that's both that's both early and so 670 01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:43,079 we're going to have 154 for just election day plus we're 671 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:49,039 going to have another 16 which get you to 170 which gets us to 170 so we're 20 672 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:54,240 less with having seven less Lo you're 20 less not 46 or 47 673 01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:04,720 correct should say there were 178 right 178 okay and we're 154 so 674 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:10,160 we're 24 less the 178 is right the 154 is the new number to compare to and and 675 01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:17,160 you got and and you are you you feel secure or you feel that that number is 676 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:23,279 going to handle the The public's uh uh privilege and their their time spent 677 01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:28,000 voting so as Steve mentioned we'll know better 678 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:33,400 on week one or week two of this I did hear him say that that was positive so 679 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:37,440 but my suggestion is I'd love to see everyone early voting it would be no 680 01:06:34,839 --> 01:06:39,599 lines on Tuesday we'll be done at 6:02 right 681 01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:48,720 Patty you know you know follow to follow that up telling me to vote early you 682 01:06:46,839 --> 01:06:53,680 know what I'm going to say it's your right not to thank you right I'm not 683 01:06:51,319 --> 01:06:58,680 going to say what I say but I am I do vote early but you you understand I know 684 01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:03,400 pushing it but there's people got families and they can't make these stuff 685 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,240 so which is why to me it's much easier to vote on early voting right I'm 686 01:07:04,839 --> 01:07:11,119 actually thinking of them because I'm thinking it'll take them less time and 687 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:17,319 it can do it on a Tuesday or Thursday or Saturday anyway that's my I guess common 688 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:23,279 sense is you can you can hope they do but you've got a plan that they don't 689 01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:29,880 okay if they if they do this end is great if you plan it that way and they 690 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:35,359 don't this end is a total chaos mess for us pole workers okay but you guys do a 691 01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:40,279 great job I'm just saying adding 50 was a positive cuz I was looking these 692 01:07:37,799 --> 01:07:43,799 numbers for a week now and I'm going 25 was they not even halfway there we 693 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:47,640 actually added 60 we were at 93 I believe was our original proposal so we 694 01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:53,279 actually added 61 thank you for considering it and making those 695 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:58,799 changes do you have what would you what what number would you be satisfied 696 01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:04,680 I don't I think any number less any number less than what we had in the 697 01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:10,240 2020 that was a and and I'll just say that was a trump Biden this is going to 698 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:17,239 be the same election and I think this number of 71% that's on this paper this 699 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:22,799 is going to go 80 there's no doubt between the the Trump Harris now this 700 01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:26,679 number is going to go up there's no doubt about it they're projecting it 701 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:34,199 across the United States it's going to be the largest turnout ever which is 702 01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:40,400 wonderful I love it vote vote vote well one time 703 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:45,080 but hey but Paul anything less than what we had in 704 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:51,440 2020 I think is doing the war County residents a disj Justice that even 705 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:57,120 though we cut it from 24 and I say we you cut it from 24 to 18 to 17 just just 706 01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:01,759 because they don't have a place to vote and they can't get them in for 707 01:08:58,839 --> 01:09:06,080 electricity that's not their problem our problem is to make sure that they vote 708 01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:11,400 at if you need two in Tennison put two in tennon you need two in lynville put 709 01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:17,400 two in lynville places to vote but make that available so anything less than 710 01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:22,279 2020 to me is a dis trust and disj ustice to The Ward County 711 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:26,080 residents my personal opinion this is public thank you for what you guys do 712 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,400 and that's my final opinion 713 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:41,080 there Mist they voted 8,000 people in four 714 01:09:38,799 --> 01:09:41,080 weeks 715 01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:46,560 ofp now it was 716 01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:53,000 time I think I think people go home 717 01:09:55,679 --> 01:10:03,199 I don't think they will Connie I know several people there and 718 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:08,640 they waited in line and they didn't leave and they did not wait for long 719 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,640 periods of 720 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:20,719 time so and let me just summarize they were wrapped around the 721 01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:20,719 building at first 722 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:29,520 Christian Daniel are 723 01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:32,960 um why does it change like do we not buy the machines every time or we just rent 724 01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:36,960 them or what is going on oh no we own the 725 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:43,760 machines we have to program them and we have to account for them right so cost 726 01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:49,360 to program each machine correct there's there's a charge for the programming of 727 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:55,000 the ballot on every Mach that is why I'm that uh pamphlet or the piece TR I 728 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:58,480 document an increase in expense right so this point we're going to have to we 729 01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:04,960 have a budget that we're trying to live within as well um and and you know I'll 730 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:09,000 just sort of summarize that we're figuring things out here there's a lot 731 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:15,239 of moving Parts between vote centers to precincts the 2020 Co election the 732 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:18,760 growth of the County locations right so I think that if I we had things that we 733 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:23,600 already realized there were things we would do differently if we did them 734 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:28,760 today we only have one chance to get T understood uh is why we're trying to 735 01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:34,360 balance all the factors to have this do and we'll learn from this and have a 736 01:11:31,159 --> 01:11:38,760 different allocation in 26 but you can't expect someone to have it perfect the 737 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:45,120 first time 20 let's make it civil can we not be professional you're 738 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:50,440 not looking at the 2020 and how big it was and if the actually we are looking 739 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:55,040 at that so let's stop right there I would disagree with that we are we're 740 01:11:52,480 --> 01:12:01,159 accounting for 15% more volume than we had in 2020 in a county has not grown 741 01:11:57,719 --> 01:12:06,719 15% in 4 years so we took the 2020 and we increased it that's what this that's 742 01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:06,719 this schedule 743 01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:10,199 does 744 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:19,480 it's we have different polling places today we don't have some of the smaller 745 01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:23,040 ones we are able to be more efficient that's one of the reasons we went to 746 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,840 this it was originally built and I remember being on the County Council 747 01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:30,159 when it was suggested to the County Council that doing this would save the 748 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:34,960 county money there are budgetary parameters that were put in place well 749 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,960 before this 750 01:12:35,639 --> 01:12:47,280 year so this is what we're told should work is it $15 to one is that 751 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:53,920 5555 and again you have to have if you have more people you have to have more 752 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:59,679 pull pads you have more and we're trying to make sure that all the 753 01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:05,480 um what's the word shrink points choke points choke points thank you are being 754 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:09,040 addressed Cindy did you have a comment I'd love to make a comment about 755 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:15,280 training Cindy Warren and I get the Democratic co-workers training is 756 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:20,600 critical very critical we have one day two two different times on one day only 757 01:13:18,440 --> 01:13:25,280 and so many people will they're going to be on vacation that day they can't do 758 01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:28,920 there for training the election office and the election people have been 759 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:34,040 gracious enough when that happens sometimes they will allow like has been 760 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:38,400 said earlier to have these people come in and get trained by watching the early 761 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:44,639 voting co-workers and that was a tremendous 762 01:13:41,639 --> 01:13:50,040 asset as far as training goes to actually physically see how it's done 763 01:13:47,719 --> 01:13:55,120 rather than sitting in a class and listening to the instructions but the 764 01:13:52,560 --> 01:14:00,199 manual is very important and I would suest somebody going through the manual 765 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:05,360 every election and making sure that it hasn't changed any at all but the 766 01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:09,520 training being on one day I know budgetary allowances and all that but 767 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:12,679 training is critical that's 768 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:20,000 all please introduce yourself name and where 769 01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:28,840 from you you said that you're working under the budget you got from the coun 770 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:33,040 right did you guys ask an increase in budget from last year because of the 771 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:38,719 possibility of an increase yes if the budget was increased 772 01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:45,440 from 2022 yes sir we inre we asked for it did they increase it no we did ask I 773 01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:50,600 asked trust me I asked for I'm sorry I don't hear it well yeah I yes we always 774 01:14:48,639 --> 01:14:56,679 ask for it to be increased or at least to match it and it was not matched and 775 01:14:53,440 --> 01:15:01,840 we actually have bud so did you actually save the money 776 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:07,840 by La by your last election that you went no if you don't spend the money it 777 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:13,800 goes back into General general fund yes well did you overspend from your budget 778 01:15:09,719 --> 01:15:19,480 last year no no we didn't have that it was M there's a lot of factors 779 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:25,480 too uh just to be clear there's like how many days you're open right there's uh 780 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:30,040 so there's not just the election day but there's also the early election and 781 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:33,520 having those you know allowing people to vote early takes labor and all that 782 01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:39,159 stuff too so even though we're able to use less machines now on Election Day um 783 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:43,080 there are some other expenses that are eating some of that up as well have you 784 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:47,440 been able to compare since you started using Mach process actually is bringing 785 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:51,320 the cost down any I mean thinking way you know the 786 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:56,920 factors out in there that you're going to have less people and less places and 787 01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:56,920 uh 788 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:06,880 I can tell you that going to both centers has drastically brought our 789 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:12,159 numbers down which is consistent to the research I did when we were K Democrats 790 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:18,080 were discussing the conversion from precincts to voting 791 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:23,920 centers it's it's almost Statewide and everybody but three counties in the 792 01:16:19,719 --> 01:16:30,480 state of Indiana use uh voting centers all sa that was the 793 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:35,360 final P you said numbers I'm assuming you meant our expenses or our cost of 794 01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:40,520 running I don't want to think D down our number 795 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:44,639 ofs I think we have reached the point where we can adjourn I'll if anyone 796 01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:48,120 wants to have one last comment I'll throw one last comment and if there 797 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:51,080 someone wants to do it otherwise I will entertain a motion to adjourn I have one 798 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:59,440 more question sorry um if we how early voting 799 01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:06,360 early voting is is happening you know we have Boards of people coming can we add 800 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:10,639 machines Steve said we could okay Steve said we could for some reason early 801 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:12,840 voting is not coming along that that a question 802 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,520 I looking for a 803 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:32,840 motion I'll second motion to adjourn has been made and 804 01:17:26,639 --> 01:17:32,840 seconded all in favor say I I I we