1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,560 Welcome to the regional growth 2 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:07,120 committee. My name is Mayor Tammy Tran. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,559 It is Thursday, March 19th, 2026. It is 4 00:00:10,559 --> 00:00:13,840 9:18 a.m. And we'll have introductions 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,440 both around the table and then those 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,920 attending online. If this is your first 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,840 meeting as a member, we'd like we'd love 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,279 to have you take a minute to tell us 9 00:00:21,279 --> 00:00:23,199 about yourself when you do go around the 10 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:27,269 table and introduce yourself. 11 00:00:27,279 --> 00:00:28,160 » Start with 12 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:28,720 >> start. 13 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,039 with start with. Okay, Rosie. 14 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:33,040 >> Good morning. Rosie Hernandez. I'm part 15 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,239 of the admin team at WFRC. 16 00:00:36,239 --> 00:00:38,000 >> Jordan Chandler, also part of the admin 17 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:44,470 team at WFRC. 18 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:46,559 » Jeannie Groberg, mayor and in Fruit 19 00:00:46,559 --> 00:00:49,440 Heights. 20 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,120 >> Yes. And Genie, you are a new member. 21 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,120 Would you like to share anything about 22 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,480 yourself? We're happy to have you. 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,719 we can share. 24 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:00,239 >> Sorry. 25 00:01:00,239 --> 00:01:02,000 Oh my gosh, my mind is a blank, guys. 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,239 I'm having a crazy morning with stuff 27 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:06,560 happening in life. So, can I delay that 28 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:07,360 for another time? 29 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,280 >> Yes. I will say that you're an 30 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,000 incredible mayor and friend. And yes, we 31 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:12,479 love you. 32 00:01:12,479 --> 00:01:12,960 >> Thank you. 33 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:14,560 >> Former Fred Heights City Council as 34 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:14,960 well. 35 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:17,280 >> Thank you so much. 36 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,680 >> I'm Gayen Ben and I'm the mayor of 37 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,439 Cottonwood Heights. I served in the 38 00:01:21,439 --> 00:01:25,119 legislature. I've lived in in Cisville 39 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:30,870 >> and near Cottonwood Fruit Heights. 40 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,720 » Keith Bradshaw. I serve as mayor of 41 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,040 Bountiful. Uh prior to this role, I 42 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,960 served on the city council for a number 43 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:40,240 of years. Um when I'm not in meetings, I 44 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,799 prefer to be mountain biking. 45 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:44,400 >> Mountain biking. 46 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,159 Mayor Bradshaw is also, you know, all 47 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:47,600 know this, but Mayor Bradshaw is also 48 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,520 the current president of the Utah League 49 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,240 of Cities and Towns and uh we were on 50 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,920 the flight together back from DC just 51 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,840 yesterday. 52 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,560 >> We were I sprinted and made the flight. 53 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,200 I was really excited about that, 54 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,560 although I do have blisters from 55 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,429 sprinting in shoes. 56 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:09,200 » I'm Andrea Pearson, part of the admin 57 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,120 team at WFRC. 58 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,400 >> Good morning. I'm Andrew Guber. 59 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,400 executive director here at WFRC. 60 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,480 Welcome. Happy to have all of you. 61 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,400 >> Good morning. Hi, I'm Ted Nolton. I'm 62 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,160 the deputy director and chief planner 63 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,280 here at WFRC and I am also the regional 64 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:32,710 growth committee point of contact. 65 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,680 I'm Loren Kamalu, not new to the group, 66 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,280 but um I serve as a Davis County elected 67 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,319 commissioner and um but I'm in this 68 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:44,800 group appointed by the Utah Association 69 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,239 of Counties and it's really awesome to 70 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:53,589 see all the new mayors. 71 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:56,560 I'm Mick Sbury, Mayor Magna. My first 72 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,390 time ever. 73 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,159 » Good morning. Christy Overson, mayor of 74 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:04,159 Taylor'sville. 75 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:05,760 >> And good morning. I'm Bryce Bird with 76 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,000 the Utah Division of Air Quality. 77 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,400 >> I'm Kristen Cordova with the Urban Land 78 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,680 Institute of Utah. 79 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,000 >> Jordan Bachmann with DOT. 80 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,680 >> Jiren Robertson with the Utah Transit 81 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,599 Authority. 82 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:23,680 >> Jason Brown. I'm the CEO of Envision 83 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,640 Utah. 84 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:28,800 Good morning. Ty McCutchen. I'm here as 85 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,879 in my role as chair of the board of 86 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:35,509 advision Utah. 87 00:03:35,519 --> 00:03:39,280 » Mike Pageant, WFRC staff CT director. 88 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,799 >> Tim Watkins, WFRC staff. 89 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:46,080 >> Emma Clinton with Envision Utah. 90 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,440 >> Cody Lutz, I'm a planner at Envision. 91 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,760 >> Uh Jory Joner, long range plan director, 92 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,159 WFRC. 93 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:56,560 I'm Adam Olsen with uh Midville City and 94 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,070 Community Development. 95 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,000 » John A. Nardone, communications manager 96 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,959 with WFRC. 97 00:04:04,959 --> 00:04:06,799 >> Heidi Hammond, Grantsville City Mayor. 98 00:04:06,799 --> 00:04:08,560 And I think I'm in the wrong spot. 99 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,400 >> You are. Come on up, mayor. 100 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,639 >> Paula Aguilera, WFRC staff. 101 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:19,440 >> Joel Temple, WFRC staff. 102 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,359 >> Julie Bernadet on WFRC longrange 103 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:23,600 planning. 104 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,600 Good morning. Hugh Van Wagon, long-range 105 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,960 planning at WFRC. 106 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,360 >> Byron Head, WFRC Community and Economic 107 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,600 Development Staff. 108 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,759 >> Christy Dolberg, WFRC Community Economic 109 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:38,320 Development Staff. 110 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,320 >> Bert Granberg. I just made the long walk 111 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,639 across the hallway from the WFRC 112 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:46,469 analytics group. 113 00:04:46,479 --> 00:04:48,479 » I'm Donnie Johnston and I'm the 114 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:51,520 assistant to Mayor Sudbury in Magna. 115 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,710 introduce 116 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,840 your shirt. 117 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,400 >> Hi, Kim Frost with uh Regents. I'm the 118 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,639 air quality seat. 119 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:04,479 >> Kim, you're a member. Come on up to the 120 00:05:04,479 --> 00:05:14,150 table. We do. We do. Of course. 121 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,840 » People online one time. 122 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:16,960 >> Oh. Oh. 123 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,759 >> Mayor Mayor Dhy, would you like to 124 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:23,189 introduce yourself? 125 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:25,120 Marie Dherty, Clinton city mayor. 126 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,400 >> And you are a new member. Would you like 127 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,000 to share anything about yourself? 128 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,240 >> Oh, I am new. All right. Late, new, all 129 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,440 the all the things. Yeah. 130 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,080 Just happy to be here. That's excited to 131 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,120 go. 132 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,639 >> Fantastic. And Mayor Hammond, you are 133 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:39,919 also new. Would you like to say 134 00:05:39,919 --> 00:05:43,039 something about yourself? 135 00:05:43,039 --> 00:05:43,759 >> Yeah. 136 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:45,919 >> Yes. I'm happy to be here. Thank you. 137 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:47,759 And I'm sorry for being late, but 138 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:50,080 >> Oh, no problem. I found us and now next 139 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,000 time I'll know right where to go. So, 140 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,080 >> it's tricky the first time. 141 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,039 >> We regard it as a uh an aptitude test 142 00:05:57,039 --> 00:05:59,440 >> to to find your way in and and if you 143 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,280 drove here to navigate parking. So far, 144 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:02,479 you're doing great, everybody. 145 00:06:02,479 --> 00:06:04,560 >> Yes. 146 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,790 >> All right. Online. 147 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,000 » Do you want to call them out? 148 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,360 >> No, I cannot see it. I can't see it. 149 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,720 Andrea, will you call them out? I don't 150 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,600 have it for me. 151 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,600 >> Okay. online today. We have Reed Ewing, 152 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,960 um Blaine Ferrell, 153 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,120 Mayor Braden Mitchell, Mayor Lauren 154 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,600 Palmer. 155 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,039 >> Let's have the Andrea, if it's okay, 156 00:06:27,039 --> 00:06:28,319 Mayor, let's have the folks introduce 157 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:30,400 themselves. Do you want to go Professor 158 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,319 Ewing and then uh um and then uh 159 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:37,520 Commissioner Ferrell. Next, 160 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,639 >> uh Reed Euing. I'm at the U in city and 161 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:43,600 metropolitan planning. 162 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,759 I'm Blaine Ferrell, Morgan County 163 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:51,029 Commissioner. Been here a while. 164 00:06:51,039 --> 00:06:54,639 >> A while. 165 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,240 >> Yeah. I don't know if I don't know if 166 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,240 I've been on this committee for a long 167 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,440 time, but I've been working with WFRC 168 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,639 for five years. 169 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:05,520 >> You have indeed. Um, can I keep going? 170 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,199 Mayor Palmer. Mayor Mitchell. 171 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:09,520 Uh, 172 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,469 >> Mayor Palmer out in Herman. 173 00:07:14,479 --> 00:07:16,400 Uh, Mayor Mitchell from uh, Sunday 174 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,319 Riverdale City 175 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:20,560 >> in his lab coat. Welcome. 176 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,319 >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm playing pharmacist 177 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:24,000 today, too. So, 178 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,280 >> council member Strad and Mayor Wood, 179 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,720 >> Allison Stout, Sandy City Council, 180 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,199 >> Sherwood, mayor of South Salt Lake, 181 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:35,039 >> and Mayor Vanderwood, 182 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:39,840 >> Mayor Rob Vanderwood of West Haven City. 183 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,599 >> And welcome, Mayor Vanderwood. Would you 184 00:07:41,599 --> 00:07:44,160 like to share anything about yourself? 185 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,919 It's your first meeting. 186 00:07:45,919 --> 00:07:47,840 >> Uh I actually attended the last meeting, 187 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,319 but uh it's been it's been really 188 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:52,639 interesting and fun to join and uh be 189 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:55,440 involved with uh with this group. So 190 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,800 happy to be here. 191 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,520 >> Well, thank you. 192 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,960 >> And madam chair, I'll just note that we 193 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,879 have several other folks attending uh 194 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:02,800 participating online guests and members 195 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,759 of the public as well. 196 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:06,080 >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank 197 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,039 you everyone. We have our first item is 198 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:10,560 an action item on the minutes. Would 199 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,919 someone like to make a motion to pass 200 00:08:11,919 --> 00:08:18,070 the minutes from January 15th, 2026? 201 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,879 » So moved. 202 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:20,160 >> Thank you, Commissioner Kamer. Do we 203 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:20,800 have a second? 204 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,280 >> Second. 205 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,319 >> All right, we have a motion and a 206 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:23,919 second. All in favor? 207 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:24,560 >> I. 208 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,479 >> Any opposed? 209 00:08:26,479 --> 00:08:28,479 >> Okay, none opposed. All right, thank 210 00:08:28,479 --> 00:08:30,639 you. We might have some public comment. 211 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:34,399 Is anyone online or in the room um 212 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:38,630 interested in public comment? 213 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,279 Okay, sounds great. We'll now hear an 214 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:42,479 overview of the regional growth 215 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:44,159 committee roles and responsibilities 216 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:45,920 followed by a brief discussion of issues 217 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,519 of interest that committee members would 218 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:49,600 like to explore for future meetings. 219 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:57,269 I'll turn the mic over to Ted Nolton. 220 00:08:57,279 --> 00:08:59,120 Mayor, as Ted is going to the mic, I'll 221 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,279 just note for our participants online, 222 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,760 we want you to feel fully able to 223 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,399 participate. So feel free to speak up at 224 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:08,480 any point that you want to and also 225 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,160 we'll keep an eye on you if you want to 226 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,560 raise your hand. So please uh in the 227 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:14,800 hybrid world please feel free to engage. 228 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,990 Thanks. 229 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,920 » Okay. Uh new chair Tran, thank you so 230 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,920 much and uh it's so great to welcome a 231 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,240 lot of new members here today and to 232 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,640 have kind of our first uh new member 233 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,240 regional growth committee. I'm really 234 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,640 excited for this. Um, as mentioned 235 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,760 before, I'm uh the WFRC staff point of 236 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,880 contact for the regional growth 237 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,640 committee. What I want to do is two 238 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,600 things. One, just do a very short 239 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,640 overview of some of the roles that RGC 240 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,440 plays and then second listen to your 241 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,279 thoughts and ideas of things you want to 242 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:57,519 explore as members and uh so later 243 00:09:57,519 --> 00:10:00,080 it's going to work right. 244 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,399 This is a test of patience which I don't 245 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:06,160 have any. Um, at the end of my 246 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,880 introductory slides, we'll ask you these 247 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,480 three questions and I'm giving them to 248 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,040 you in advance so that your brain can 249 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,320 start tickling. Um, what topics you'd 250 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,760 like to have discussed at future 251 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,680 meetings, specific guest speakers, 252 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:20,880 subject matter experts, or 253 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,079 organizations, other suggestions for RGC 254 00:10:24,079 --> 00:10:27,920 meetings. you can start to join um at 255 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,040 slido.com with that number or that uh QR 256 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,200 code. I will bring up those instructions 257 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,079 again in a number of slides. So, don't 258 00:10:36,079 --> 00:10:38,880 worry if you don't get it now. 259 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,079 All right. So, WFRC 260 00:10:42,079 --> 00:10:44,560 is the name of our organization and our 261 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,480 board, right? 262 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,279 um 27 people I think it's 17 elected 263 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:51,519 officials on the board and there's 264 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:55,040 really two big branches off of that 265 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,200 transportation coordinating committee 266 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,959 which focuses on short range uh planning 267 00:11:00,959 --> 00:11:03,120 and programming the assignment of money 268 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,680 to projects and the regional growth 269 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:08,160 committee which focuses on long range 270 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,560 planning including the Wasuch choice 271 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:12,000 vision and the regional transportation 272 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,360 plan both branches are then supported by 273 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,600 technical technical advisory committees. 274 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,200 Um 275 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,839 now, so I'm going to touch on the RGC 276 00:11:21,839 --> 00:11:23,680 roles. You can have this in your head as 277 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:27,360 new members. Um under three bins, 278 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,240 planning, implementation, and 279 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,360 engagement. Uh so you're really uh the 280 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,480 guiding uh committee to help shape these 281 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,120 activities at WFRC. So when we're 282 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,839 talking about planning at WFRC that 283 00:11:43,839 --> 00:11:45,920 starts with the Wasatch Choice vision 284 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,839 and you may know about the Wasuch Choice 285 00:11:47,839 --> 00:11:50,000 Vision already, but the easy way to 286 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,480 think about this is this is the shared 287 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,519 effort to coordinate a transportation 288 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:58,720 plan for the region. um a framework for 289 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,480 where communities want to go with their 290 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,079 land use and major economic development 291 00:12:04,079 --> 00:12:06,160 opportunities and how those three things 292 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,800 align geographically 293 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,920 on a map. And so this is just a zoom in 294 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,320 on a portion of the region. I think this 295 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,399 is northern Davis, Southern Weber. And 296 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:17,920 you can see all these pieces come 297 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,839 together, different uh road, transit, 298 00:12:21,839 --> 00:12:24,000 trails, 299 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,680 um major destination areas in our land 300 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:29,760 use plans or our vision of where we want 301 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,800 to go as we handle the demands of growth 302 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,000 and parks and open space uh and how 303 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,480 these these uh components align 304 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,760 together. That's what we mean by the 305 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,920 Wasich Choice vision. will hear a lot 306 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,399 more about that over time. But this is 307 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:46,160 one of the key things that the regional 308 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,480 growth committee advises is how do we 309 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,519 develop and use the Wasatch Choice 310 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:54,560 vision. Now that's the umbrella. A key 311 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,519 part of that a focus area of the of the 312 00:12:57,519 --> 00:13:00,240 RGC is the regional plan itself. You can 313 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,399 kind of think of it as so if the W was 314 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:04,160 choice vision coordinates land use 315 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:10,000 transportation economic opportunity the transportation piece is very robust 316 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,079 and detailed the regional transportation 317 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:14,880 plan roads transit active transportation 318 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,920 especially with a focus on regionally 319 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,560 significant facilities. So we we oversee 320 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,639 that process. This is a four-year 321 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:24,320 process to develop the regional 322 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,519 transportation plan. where we are at is 323 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:30,320 we are in the second to last year of a 324 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,519 four-year cycle. So the the tenor of our 325 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:35,680 conversations as a committee, they 326 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,320 adjust based on where we are in the 327 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,800 regional transportation plan cycle. So 328 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,240 this year we're focusing on 329 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,440 uh phasing projects or prioritizing them 330 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,079 and addressing fiscal constraint. How 331 00:13:50,079 --> 00:13:52,000 much money do we think we might have 332 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,920 available into the future? and that 333 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,399 informs that prioritization process. So, 334 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:59,360 we'll talk about it as a as a committee 335 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,320 and we'll talk about how to engage the 336 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,639 rest of the comm uh community on this 337 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:06,240 question of the regional transportation 338 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,000 plan. Um, so there's planning, there's 339 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,279 also analytics. Uh, WFRC 340 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:17,040 shines a light on issues in our region, 341 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,519 transportation, land use conditions, and 342 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:22,959 we forecast. We we have models that help 343 00:14:22,959 --> 00:14:24,639 us, 344 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:29,360 you know, look at plausible or probable 345 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,240 futures based on what we might do. If we 346 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,160 build a road here, we build a transit 347 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,240 line there, if land use patterns shift 348 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,480 in this way or that way. So, we forecast 349 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,839 things and we provide data and tools to 350 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:44,639 fill in the blank communities, um, 351 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:47,120 transportation agencies, this kind of 352 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:52,560 work. You'll advise that was all under the planning and 353 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,720 analytics. Now we're in the second bin, 354 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,040 the implementation bin. Within 355 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,279 implementation, there's a couple of 356 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:00,560 things that the regional growth 357 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,199 committee focuses on. One is to advise 358 00:15:03,199 --> 00:15:05,839 the transportation land use connection 359 00:15:05,839 --> 00:15:07,440 uh 360 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,680 program. This is a planning and 361 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,920 technical assistance program uh that 362 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,519 helps local governments. You're going to 363 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:16,240 hear about this. It's on the agenda 364 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,120 today. I'm gonna I just want to 365 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,720 highlight that that is a partnership 366 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,600 effort with UD do and UTA. Really 367 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:29,040 important to note that um and you're a key adviser in that. One of the 368 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,160 things that we do as well is we certify 369 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,160 or we make recommendations to the 370 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,160 council to certify station area plans um 371 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,360 in support of statewide legislation 372 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,199 helping communities as they fulfill 373 00:15:43,199 --> 00:15:46,639 those requirements by certifying plans 374 00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:49,360 about a half a mile around uh rail 375 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,920 stations and a quarter mile around BRT 376 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,320 stations. That was a huge activity for 377 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 regional growth committee last year. 378 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,880 there was about 50 stationary plans that 379 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,360 were certified. This year it's only like 380 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,240 a tenth as much. And that's just a note 381 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,920 that we have a lot more room in our 382 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,759 agendas uh this year because of that. 383 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:12,480 Last of the three bins, engage. How do 384 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,279 we reach out and work to build 385 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:18,240 consensus? Um and we'll bring up these 386 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,120 questions of process and engagement here 387 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,199 at uh the regional growth committee. 388 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:24,720 What are the kinds of things that we 389 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,120 might do? um and are they being 390 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,360 effective and how can we uh sharpen our 391 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,800 efforts? And then also within that 392 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,519 engagement space, thinking about policy 393 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:38,000 levers, analyzing federal, state, and 394 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,560 local policies for our members, thinking 395 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,519 about what we advocate for, um such as 396 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:45,120 appropriations and policies that are 397 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,199 consistent with our plans like the 398 00:16:47,199 --> 00:16:48,880 Wasuch Choice Vision and the Unified 399 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,720 Transportation Plan, and we coordinate 400 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,959 with National Association partners to 401 00:16:52,959 --> 00:16:54,639 adopt best practices. These are the 402 00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:56,399 kinds of things that the regional growth 403 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:58,480 committee uh looks at. Here's the 404 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,560 summary of those that you can look at. 405 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,160 These are the ones that I went through. 406 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,880 But this is not everything that we might 407 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,720 look at. And this is where I want to 408 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,880 turn it to you to say what are the 409 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,600 things you want to explore given a basic 410 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,160 notion of the space that was front 411 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,439 regional council addresses 412 00:17:17,439 --> 00:17:19,039 transportation 413 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:20,559 land use and economic development that 414 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:22,959 are associated long range within that 415 00:17:22,959 --> 00:17:25,679 general space dealing with the demands 416 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:28,160 of growth what should you what do you 417 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,240 think we should discuss as well so here 418 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,799 I'm going back to the slido 419 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:37,110 um uh joining instructions 420 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:41,039 these this that slido.com number is also 421 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:43,760 on the first question. So I'm going to 422 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,919 pull up the first question so people can 423 00:17:45,919 --> 00:17:49,840 start pouncing on that and have at it 424 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,679 and then uh uh madame chair love to have 425 00:17:53,679 --> 00:17:55,600 a short discussion around these three 426 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,120 questions as uh as you'd like. 427 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:01,039 >> Sounds great. Has everyone had a chance 428 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:04,000 to uh take a picture of the QR code? 429 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,520 Will you go back a slide? I think it 430 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,200 would help to just kind of give the 431 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,720 lanes a little bit 432 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,440 >> to give the 433 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,000 >> go back one slide just as people are 434 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,520 thinking about these questions. I think 435 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,799 it would be helpful to have that 436 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:16,320 information up there. 437 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,240 >> Okay. Yeah. And it's 438 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,080 >> want to see all the all the questions. 439 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,000 >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was saying. 440 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,200 >> I'd h I'd have to go back slides to get 441 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,480 all three, but I can I'll just 442 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,320 articulate them. The first is 443 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,320 >> what are the issues that you want to 444 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,720 explore? Okay. The second is are there 445 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,440 specific subject matter experts, 446 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,080 organizations, etc. that you think we 447 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,559 ought to invite or engage? And the third 448 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:43,919 is general reflections on how to create 449 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:45,679 great meetings here at the regional 450 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:47,120 growth committee. That kind of thing. 451 00:18:47,120 --> 00:19:08,150 >> Okay. 452 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,799 if anybody online has any issues with 453 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:13,200 the slidoh, just let us know in the 454 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:23,669 chat. 455 00:19:23,679 --> 00:19:27,280 new UTA governance. How much housing is 456 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,120 being developed around transit hubs? 457 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:31,120 What does that development look like? 458 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:32,960 How much of housing is investment 459 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,039 property for second homes? Yeah, that's 460 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:37,600 that is a real issue that we we could 461 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,440 explore. 462 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,679 I'm I'm trying to not do like a a James 463 00:19:41,679 --> 00:19:43,679 Earl Jones dramatic reading around each 464 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:45,360 of these, but I can if you'd like. So, 465 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:54,630 just let me know. 466 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,320 You could breathe breathe heavily into 467 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,080 the microphone if you wanted to. 468 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,600 Climate, 469 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,200 no snow by 2050, regional transportation 470 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,310 solutions, 471 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,960 opportunities for small owner occupied 472 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,120 housing such as condos or town homes. 473 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,280 Yeah, 474 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,440 >> Ted, I think as I see these topics come 475 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,520 up, I also look around the table and we 476 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,360 have experts in some of these topics. 477 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:23,280 Like there was a one that passed by 478 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,600 about uh air quality growth and 479 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,440 development. I'm looking at uh Kim and 480 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,320 Bryce 481 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,520 >> on on that issue. There was a topic 482 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,640 raised about the UTA governance changes. 483 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,400 We'll be talking about that. Jiren's 484 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,120 here from UTA. So there's a lot of folks 485 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:41,600 that participate already on this 486 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,080 committee that we can uh tap for their 487 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,159 expertise as we look ahead here. 488 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:48,320 >> Does anybody want to do any elaboration 489 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:55,830 on an item that you've shared here? 490 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,720 » Ted. 491 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,200 >> Yeah, 492 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,440 >> it's Lorine. 493 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,679 When I was first starting in public 494 00:21:01,679 --> 00:21:04,880 service in 2014, 495 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,960 um, in my city on a planning commission, 496 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,880 um, I got the chance to be part of an 497 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,120 active transportation coordination 498 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:17,760 between two cities who had gotten a 499 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,320 grant and it was Kisville and Farmington 500 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:25,440 together. And it was incredible to be 501 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,240 part of that. And I and so what I put up 502 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,760 there, I put two things. I put great 503 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,880 Salt Lake, but the first thing I put was 504 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,840 um just some of the things that are 505 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,360 happening that are great updates between 506 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:42,400 jurisdictions such as multiple cities 507 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,480 working together because we all know 508 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,120 that these plans don't stop at borders 509 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:49,520 and shouldn't stop at borders. So just I 510 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,919 think it's inspiring like when we heard 511 00:21:51,919 --> 00:21:54,320 last year from all of those um 512 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,760 reinvestment zone areas or sorry 513 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,200 >> stationary plan. Yeah. Like I felt like 514 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,840 it was very inspiring to hear what was 515 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,159 going on in in certain areas and and 516 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:08,880 that stimulates ideas for other areas 517 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,559 too. 518 00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:12,720 >> That's a great suggestion. Thank you. 519 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,200 And we do have experts in the room about 520 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,440 air quality and we all know that that's 521 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,120 an issue along with water. So just to to 522 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,600 be aware of, 523 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,120 you know, what's appropriate for this 524 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,600 group and the Great Salt Lake. 525 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,039 >> Absolutely. Um Madam Chair, if it works, 526 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:32,159 okay, I'll go to the next question. 527 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:34,960 >> Yeah, go ahead. 528 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,120 >> If you have more thoughts on that first 529 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,360 question, please share them as you can. 530 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:41,760 Um, I just want to note we're we're not 531 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,400 wiping the slate clean. There was 532 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,200 feedback from a year earlier that I just 533 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,360 wanted to reflect and that we're going 534 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,280 to continue to keep that in mind. Things 535 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,280 like the Olympics, understanding 536 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,200 markets, and I won't do the reading of 537 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,720 this, but I wanted to note some of the 538 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,320 findings that we got from this survey a 539 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,559 year ago. But Ted, if you if you now go 540 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,559 back one, that first item on there, 541 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,799 housing solutions missing middle, that 542 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:07,440 was a a suggestion that came from uh 543 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,360 Sandy City Council person Allison Stout, 544 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:11,200 who's on with us here and a member of 545 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,640 this committee. Do you want to say 546 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,679 something about that? 547 00:23:13,679 --> 00:23:16,880 >> Yes. Um and uh Council Member Strad 548 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,720 suggested, hey, we ought to focus on 549 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,120 this. And we talked as a committee and 550 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:24,640 decided a great way to do this is to 551 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,120 uh spread that training and conversation 552 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,120 out into the community. And so we're we 553 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,559 have a webinar just on March 26th, okay, 554 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:35,200 that delivers on that conversation. So 555 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,120 that regional growth committee guidance 556 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,000 led to a webinar that is jointly hosted 557 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,159 with the League of Cities and Towns, uh, 558 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,559 WFRC and others. And we can give you 559 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:45,840 some more details on that. 560 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,039 >> Focused on home ownership. Yes. Also, 561 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,440 >> that's right. home ownership es 562 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760 especially with regard to other options 563 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,360 that add to ownership that complement 564 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,640 single family homes. Okay, second of 565 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,240 three questions. Are there specific 566 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,000 guest speakers, subject matter experts, 567 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,520 or organizations you'd like to hear 568 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:14,870 from? 569 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,360 And for the sake of time, we may not 570 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:20,159 discuss this one quite as long. And then 571 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:22,080 I think what I could do on the third 572 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,679 question, 573 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:25,360 uh, 574 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:27,919 Madame Chair, is I could leave that up 575 00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:30,799 as we do an introduction to the, uh, the 576 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:32,559 ensuing agenda item. 577 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:38,070 >> Sounds great. 578 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,880 Professor Reed viewing indeed. And if if 579 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,200 anybody would like to elaborate on some 580 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,559 of the things that you're putting into 581 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:46,320 this question for a few minutes, we 582 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,669 could do do that. 583 00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:53,120 » You know what? One of the things that I 584 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:56,000 hear a lot is that um since we are in a 585 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,840 drought and we have such water issues, 586 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,080 why are we allowing multiple units to be 587 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,320 built and more housing to be built? So I 588 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,440 think it would be a great future 589 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,679 discussion to talk about how building 590 00:25:05,679 --> 00:25:09,760 more doesn't use more necessarily. 591 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,480 >> Yeah. Uh it's a it's a great point and 592 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,440 it and it's sort of at Envision Utah has 593 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,120 helped us through the years. I I think about this question of 594 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,120 >> if we try to limit growth, what are the 595 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,640 consequences of that, right? 596 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,480 >> Um but what we do have is we have a lot 597 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,559 of a lot more control collectively on 598 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,760 the form that of growth uh that growth 599 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,919 takes. And so we can think about impacts 600 00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:35,039 through form whereas we don't have a lot 601 00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:38,000 of control over the how much. 602 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Um but we can talk that through 603 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,080 >> Jugs. Okay. 604 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,799 >> I'll also note we as staff can do some 605 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:47,200 interpretations here like the housing 606 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,880 guy for the gov. Who's that? Steve 607 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,720 Walrip. So we'll help just throw out 608 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,159 whatever you want and we can fill in 609 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:53,440 some blanks here. 610 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,679 >> Love that. 611 00:25:55,679 --> 00:25:58,000 So, I know that I'm I'm going to move on 612 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,760 perhaps before everybody's gotten their 613 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,039 thoughts in here. I just want to 614 00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:03,679 reiterate that as members, please share 615 00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:05,600 additional thoughts after this meeting 616 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,240 and we will follow up with an email that 617 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,440 enables you to do that. 618 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,080 >> Yeah. 619 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,679 >> So, I'm going to go to the next uh 620 00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:13,279 question 621 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,520 uh which is the last question. Any other 622 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,279 suggestions to enhance the value of 623 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:19,279 regional growth committee meetings? And 624 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,120 I think uh Madam Chair, what I could do 625 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:22,720 is I can leave this up. 626 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,840 >> Okay. even as we uh move into the next 627 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,799 agenda item if that is acceptable to the 628 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:29,520 committee. 629 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,880 >> People can think about the question. 630 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,200 Okay, 631 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,480 >> Jason, were you trying to Were you 632 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,720 raising your hand, Jason? Oh, okay. 633 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,600 >> No, 634 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,400 >> ready to move on then? Okay. 635 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,269 >> Thank you so much everybody. 636 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:49,919 Okay, so we know the Wasatch Choice 637 00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:51,440 vision is our long-standing regional 638 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,120 blue blueprint is coordinating 639 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,720 transportation, land development, and 640 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760 economic opportunities. Um, back in 641 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,799 August, WFRC staff shared the idea of 642 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,960 reporting on five key progress 643 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,640 indicators to follow up on the ground 644 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,640 progress towards this the Wasatch Choice 645 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,039 vision. So today, let's look at the 646 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,120 draft numbers and see the progress and 647 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:17,520 I'll turn it over to you to to do that. 648 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,400 >> Sorry, Julie. 649 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,240 >> Julie, sorry about that. 650 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:20,960 >> It's fine. 651 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,200 >> To you, Julie. Thank you. 652 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,480 >> I know the last name was a little 653 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,799 tricky. Um, and this is Look, things are 654 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:29,279 sliding down. Okay, so um yeah, we're 655 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:31,520 going to talk about a progress indicator 656 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,600 dashboard that we created here. And 657 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,039 before I get started, I just want to 658 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:36,640 mention that this was a joint effort 659 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,039 between um our analytics team, our 660 00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:40,159 community economic development, 661 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:41,440 communications, and long-range planning. 662 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,440 So even though I'm up here alone, I most 663 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,279 certainly didn't do all of this work um 664 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,200 by myself. 665 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200 So Ted, 666 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,960 yep, there we go. Sorry, I have two ways 667 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,559 to advance the slide, then I got a 668 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,880 little confused. Um so Ted mentioned the 669 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,440 Wasatch Choice vision and uh our four 670 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,760 key strategies on how to make that 671 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,399 vision happen. So with any plan or any 672 00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:04,640 strategy, in this case a vision, we want 673 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640 to ensure that we're actually meeting um 674 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,399 what we set out to do. So 675 00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:12,880 the law, 676 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,799 I'm going to put this here for now. Um 677 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:18,799 one second. I'm not used to being at the 678 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,880 podium. 679 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,240 Here we go. Okay. I'm gonna get fired in 680 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,000 two seconds if I don't figure out how to 681 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,840 slide. Okay, there we go. Okay. Um yeah, 682 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,159 so we set out to to kind of figure out 683 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:33,760 how our vision is being implemented. Are 684 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,080 we meeting what we set out to do? Um 685 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,240 with uh we have a performance indicator 686 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,559 dashboard. We wanted to start small. So 687 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,120 we have five key indicators that align 688 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,279 with the four Wasatch Choice vision 689 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,600 strategies. The fifth one being um our 690 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,120 beloved access to opportunities. So if 691 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,520 you're new here at RDC um and we haven't 692 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,559 talked to you about access to 693 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:54,480 opportunities, this is one of our key 694 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,039 performance measures that we do at WFRC. 695 00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:58,960 It's a way to measure how how well 696 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,960 people can be connected to jobs, 697 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,799 education, and other key destinations. 698 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:04,480 So that's the opportunity part of access 699 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,159 to opportunity. 700 00:29:06,159 --> 00:29:07,840 And we chose these five so that they 701 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,799 were easy to understand. Um they were a 702 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:12,399 way for us to be able to calculate them 703 00:29:12,399 --> 00:29:13,919 over time. So we wanted to make sure 704 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,480 that we had um both past data and data 705 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,000 that we could continue to measure well 706 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,799 into the future. We were focusing on 707 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,480 that transportation land use connection. 708 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,840 So you'll see that some of these are 709 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,760 more land use. Um some of these are 710 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,840 transportation and affordability is a 711 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,000 mixture of of transportation and land 712 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,240 use. Um and then we wanted to be able to 713 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,200 calculate these at different 714 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,799 geographies. So not just for the region 715 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:36,960 but be able to dig down into county and 716 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,919 city um level numbers. 717 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:44,480 So I'm going to um go to the 718 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,480 dashboard now. You can join using this 719 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,960 QR code. if you're online, um, we're 720 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,200 dropping it into the chat and we'll also 721 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,120 send this out after the meeting for you 722 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,039 to explore as well. 723 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,120 >> And Julie, if you don't mind a quick 724 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,399 interjection, 725 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:00,640 >> this is a work in progress. It's a 726 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,320 draft. Um, so it's not ready for prime 727 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,320 time. And then the other note is we 728 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,320 talked about this initially at the 729 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,799 regional growth committee back in August 730 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,039 and I and I just wanted to remind you of 731 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:15,200 that. So, we're coming back to say you 732 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,279 gave us some guidance in August and now 733 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:24,389 we're at, you know, 85%. 734 00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:26,559 » Okay. So, on the Wasatch Choice Vision, 735 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,559 if you ended up going to the QR code, uh 736 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:31,760 there's a little bit of introduction 737 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,000 text about what um the intent of this 738 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,399 was was doing. And if you scroll down a 739 00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:38,159 little bit, you'll see the dashboard 740 00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:40,799 with the five key indicators. 741 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:43,600 Um this is generally for the was when 742 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,640 you first get on the the um website it 743 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,080 will be for the Wasatch Choice as a 744 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,440 whole. So that includes our planning 745 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,600 area as well as our MO to the south, the 746 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,399 Matland Association of Governments. Um 747 00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:56,399 and it's just a a broad overview of how 748 00:30:56,399 --> 00:31:00,159 the the five measures um are measuring 749 00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:02,960 and then how the trend is is going. So 750 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,760 that's what the these arrows are. You 751 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,760 can click on the learn learn more on any 752 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,760 of the 753 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,919 five um indicators and you'll get um not 754 00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:16,480 only the data 755 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,870 sorry 756 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,840 um but you'll also see that there's on 757 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,430 the left 758 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,600 uh is a little description of what we're 759 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:39,669 measuring, why it's important, 760 00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:42,720 um why what are some solutions to um 761 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,960 improve this measure? How we're 762 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,559 measuring it? So, our methodology and 763 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,399 our data sources so anyone can kind of 764 00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:50,399 double check our work or dig deeper into 765 00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:52,720 the details. Um and then there are some 766 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,799 resources at the bottom of this. So, 767 00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:55,840 we're trying to give you sort of an 768 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,399 overview what what the measure is um and 769 00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:01,120 how we can improve the measure 770 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,960 for some of the indicators. So this is 771 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,640 access opportunities, how many jobs we 772 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,200 can get to in a typical commute. Um for 773 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,799 some of the measures like this one, 774 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,320 that's the strength of our centers. So 775 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,720 we're measuring development within our 776 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,440 um was choice vision centers. 777 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,200 You can see the total number. So this is 778 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,880 the total number of households and jobs 779 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,240 that are within a center. Um but here 780 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,000 also you'll be able to scroll across and 781 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,360 break that down into the number of 782 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,279 households within the center and the 783 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,799 number of jobs within the center. 784 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:32,640 And likewise for um 785 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,720 >> and Julie, can I do a quick add-on? 786 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Sorry for that. This a quick add-on on 787 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,200 the strength of our centers. Um in part 788 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,640 because we have a lot of new members. 789 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,120 Part of the reason why WFRC focuses on 790 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,440 city and town centers is they have a 791 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:52,080 significant transportation impact. they coordinate location-wise with major 792 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,799 roads and major transit and they tend to 793 00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:57,919 have a significant 794 00:32:57,919 --> 00:32:59,840 sort of a punching above their weight 795 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,200 impact on on a transportation behavior. 796 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,960 So that's part of the reason why we we 797 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,960 have a focus on on city and town 798 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,679 centers. 799 00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:10,080 >> Great. from a regional perspective. 800 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,399 >> Um on households and transportation, 801 00:33:12,399 --> 00:33:14,880 you'll also see um so I just wanted to 802 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,640 point this one out because often I feel 803 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,080 like people think that you only want a 804 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,799 positive numbers up. So here we are um 805 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:22,720 showing that the total household and 806 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,480 transportation cost that we see in our 807 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,440 region is um increasing over time. Um 808 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,440 you can break that down into how the 809 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,640 percentage that is being caused by the 810 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,360 household cost. So, rent, mortgage 811 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,159 payment, and then the um amount that's 812 00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:39,760 being on the transportation cost. You'll 813 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,480 see that dip in 2020 when we were not 814 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,200 driving as much um and our overall sort 815 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,440 of gas purchases and and other wear and 816 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,279 tear on the vehicle um dropped over 817 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,440 time. 818 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,360 Um 819 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,480 I will also note one other thing. Um so, 820 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,120 let's go to transportation choices. So, 821 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,960 this is measuring the number of people 822 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,600 who have transportation options. 823 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,559 um in particular with the choice of 824 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:09,359 driving or using frequent near nearby 825 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:12,800 frequent transit. Um so I want to say 826 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,480 two things here. First is that I've been 827 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,960 showing you the region numbers but if 828 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,599 you come back up to the geography you 829 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:23,119 can select um this is breakdown by our 830 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,480 MO areas by county by these small areas 831 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,159 that you've come to. If you've come to 832 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:29,679 any of our workshops, these are their 833 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,760 workshop areas 834 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,679 as well as um individual cities. 835 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,359 So I'll go down to Marriott Slaterville. 836 00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:43,359 I get down to M. There we go. So on this 837 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:46,560 measure, so um the we have five key 838 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,480 performance indicators and the intention 839 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,879 here is that we will go in some more 840 00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:53,760 detail and provide um some more insights 841 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,320 in a secondary measures that we're 842 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,119 developing now and we'll update the this 843 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:00,800 progress indicators to have those 844 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,800 secondary measures. The reason that this 845 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,400 is important is because this 846 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,760 transportation choices which is 847 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,040 measuring access to frequent transit in 848 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,359 some areas you'll see that there isn't 849 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:12,720 any information. So in Marriott 850 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,720 Slaterville there's not frequent transit 851 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:16,800 and there's not fixed guideway but that 852 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,760 doesn't mean that there's not other 853 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,040 options for people in Marriott 854 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,720 Slaterville to get around by transit 855 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:22,480 right there might be um all day bus 856 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,160 there might be um on demand services 857 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,760 which are not being shown in this 858 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,520 particular measure but it does not mean 859 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,119 that there's not other things. And so 860 00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:34,560 these um broader more detailed 861 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,320 information will come in as a set of 862 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,839 secondary measures. I just wanted to 863 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:40,079 point that out as if you're going 864 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:41,440 through this and you're like, "Oh, the 865 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,280 data is not loading or there's an error 866 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,200 here." Um in some cases it might just be 867 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,720 that there's not that frequent transit 868 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,640 that we're expecting in other areas. Um 869 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,240 and that we're acknowledging that 870 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:51,599 there's other types of transit that 871 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:53,520 might be serving these areas and and we 872 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,599 will have that as a secondary measure 873 00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,520 later on. The intention is to have these 874 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,040 secondary measures for all of the key 875 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,880 performance indicators, but we're 876 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,960 starting small because this is a new um 877 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,800 initiative here at WFRC. 878 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,119 >> I mentioned that we're at 85%. This is 879 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,320 the kind of thing that before we launch 880 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,800 uh I would hope that you know Marriott 881 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,200 Slaterville goes to this and they see 882 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,400 information about their transit access, 883 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,240 not necessarily for frequent but for 884 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,240 other forms of transit and so that it's 885 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:25,200 still there. Um, but we're looking for 886 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,440 your feedback and guidance. And so if as 887 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,079 you're as you consume this and explore 888 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:31,920 it and the questions you've got or 889 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,599 suggestions, that's that's part of what 890 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,400 we're hoping for today. 891 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,680 >> Um, yeah. So, I'll just put this up 892 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,920 there. So, that's my contact information 893 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,280 and my little picture from the website. 894 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,400 If you can't um remember anyone's name 895 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,800 or our emails on the new website, we 896 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,240 have all of the staff and it looks like 897 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,320 this with a picture, our role, and our 898 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,640 email. Um, and I invite you as you 899 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,880 explore this after this meeting, um, 900 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,400 give us your feedback. If you feel like 901 00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,599 we're missing something or something 902 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,359 could be added that would make this more 903 00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:03,839 useful, there's other resources. Um, we 904 00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:06,320 would love to hear about it as we're, 905 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,800 um, finalizing this and then doing those 906 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,040 secondary indicators as well. 907 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,400 >> Thank you, Julie. Does anyone have 908 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,560 questions or thoughts right now as you 909 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,280 sort of maybe um, engaged your brain a 910 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,160 little bit as you're thinking about 911 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,560 this? 912 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,880 >> I'm sorry. Can I get one more um, of a 913 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,640 QR code up there? Yes, you can. 914 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,800 >> Oh, yeah. That's great. 915 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,390 >> There you go. 916 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,160 » Mayor, can I interject? May I please? 917 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:30,800 >> Thank you, Andrew. 918 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,960 >> Um, Julie, thank you so much. This 919 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,400 trying to pull together data. Um, 920 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,920 there's so much data and there's so much 921 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,320 information, you know, what are the 922 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,240 right things to look at to understand 923 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,200 how well are we doing as a region? Um, 924 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,119 and so Julie, will you act will you go 925 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:49,200 back to the slide that actually shows 926 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,839 the numbers the the main dashboard. 927 00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:52,240 >> Um, 928 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,320 >> yeah, I'm not showing any. Yeah. Um, you 929 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,680 just have to click on that and go back 930 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,160 to 931 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,240 >> So, let me just say two two things 932 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,400 quickly. First, you know, when you work 933 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,280 with WFRC, we spend a lot of time 934 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,280 planning for the future, right? The 935 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200 Wasatch Choice Vision looks out to the 936 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,400 future to a desired state that we want 937 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,560 collectively we want for our region and 938 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,640 our individual communities. 939 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,599 And that looks out to decades into the 940 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,119 future. Now, it also says, what do we 941 00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:21,359 need to be doing now? What decisions do 942 00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:23,920 we make now to shape and have the future 943 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:29,760 that we want? But it it's it's really important not only to be casting 944 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,200 your eyes to the future, but to be 945 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,520 looking at how are we doing, right? Are 946 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,280 we are we pointing in the right 947 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,119 direction? What's actually happening in 948 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:38,720 our region and in your individual 949 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:41,119 communities? And I feel like these 950 00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:42,800 indicators 951 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,240 uh address that critical question. How 952 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,079 are things going? Are we heading in the 953 00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:50,079 right direction or not in the right 954 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,640 direction? And so just for example, the 955 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,560 transportation choices that Julie talked 956 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,160 about at a topline regional number. So 957 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,160 that 23.7% 958 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,040 is what, Julie? 959 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,359 >> The percentage of residents that are 960 00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:07,359 have a choice of driving or using um 961 00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:09,839 frequent nearby transit. Okay. So, right 962 00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:11,920 now in the entirety of the Wasatch 963 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,280 front, the majority of like we assume 964 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,119 that everybody has the ability to drive. 965 00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:18,720 That doesn't mean everybody has a car, 966 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:21,599 but who also has the ability to access, 967 00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,400 as Julie said, frequent bus rapid 968 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,880 transit or tracks or frontr runner, you 969 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,359 know, easily from their home. And it's a 970 00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:31,520 little bit less than a quarter of our 971 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,400 region's residents. But it's going up. 972 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,320 And that over the last what, five from 973 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,839 2019? Is that the time? horizon. It has 974 00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:42,160 gone up some. Why does that happen? 975 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,440 Well, we expand transit service, right? 976 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,760 Um, Mayor Overson, as we, you know, as 977 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,359 the, uh, as the BRT comes online 978 00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:53,280 regionally, that'll go up and in your 979 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,040 community, it'll it'll jump up 980 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,680 significantly, right? We hope, right? 981 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,640 And as as Ted was noting before, as 982 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,440 stationary plans and development occurs 983 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,680 around transit stations, that number 984 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,400 also goes up. So it helps us to see if 985 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,320 we want the Wasach's choice vision has 986 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,599 this one of its core principles is and 987 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:15,920 strategies is that our residents should 988 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,599 have transportation choices. Are we 989 00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:19,280 going in the right direction? Are we 990 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,240 improving that year by year by year? So 991 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,320 this whole effort will help us to 992 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,119 understand that and then as Julie noted 993 00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:29,359 not just regionally but in individually 994 00:40:29,359 --> 00:40:31,760 down to a a city level with the best 995 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,240 data that we have. How are these things 996 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:35,680 playing out for your individual 997 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,440 communities? And we hope that this will 998 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,839 help us understand what's at play in our 999 00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:42,560 region, but then also help us to shape 1000 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,599 decisions. If we do this strategy, if we 1001 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,119 do that strategy, if you know there's a 1002 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:52,960 b a bountiful uh uh uh uh Davis Salt 1003 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,160 Lake connector um enhanced transit, what 1004 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,760 impact will that have? If we do our 1005 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,200 development patterns in different ways, 1006 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,040 what impact will that have on these 1007 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,599 important uh measures? So that's what 1008 00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:04,240 we're aiming at. 1009 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:05,440 >> Okay. And so the feedback that you're 1010 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,400 asking from us is whether or not we 1011 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,720 understand these indicators or or 1012 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:11,920 whether or not they're working for our 1013 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,920 communities. Help us understand so that 1014 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,200 we can give you better feedback. 1015 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,200 >> I and I can give you if if it would 1016 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,839 work. Okay. Um I could give a couple of 1017 00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:22,000 examples. So we we've we've been 1018 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,480 previewing these also with partners and 1019 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,800 they've been posing great questions like 1020 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,640 how do we know if a number is a good 1021 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,000 number? Um can you give us some context? 1022 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,960 Uh should this be a percentage so that 1023 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,319 we understand uh how how many people in 1024 00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:40,079 our community 1025 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:42,560 or should it be a raw number? Um you 1026 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,720 know it could be it could be looking at 1027 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,119 any of those details like that. But I I 1028 00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:48,960 think maybe the threshold question is 1029 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,160 does it make sense? Is it 1030 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,079 understandable? Is it interesting? Is it 1031 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,960 compelling? But then it can be more like 1032 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,880 well how was this developed? um gosh 1033 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,119 that this number doesn't I need more 1034 00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,040 information to understand how to h how 1035 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,640 to interpret the number whatever um and 1036 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,960 you know it's it's the kind of thing 1037 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,560 that um we're going to learn a little 1038 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,119 bit I believe after we launch it we'll 1039 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,760 launch it and we'll see how how it's 1040 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,319 being utilized and we'll be able to 1041 00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:22,319 refine it a little bit over time what we 1042 00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:24,640 don't want to refine is the methodology 1043 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,960 so that we can sort of keep track of 1044 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,839 things longitudinally. 1045 00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:31,119 >> Yes. Go ahead. 1046 00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:32,720 >> Sure. Mike Kim mic. 1047 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,359 >> Oh, your mic's not on. Thank you. 1048 00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:37,040 >> Thank you. Yeah, I guess I was just 1049 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,560 thinking the same thing like what's the 1050 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,599 context of this and it's would probably 1051 00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:44,079 be very difficult to compare to other 1052 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:46,079 regions of our size and density, but 1053 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:47,599 like 1054 00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,680 kind of some comparison of other regions 1055 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,440 that are similar to ours might be 1056 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,680 helpful for some context at least to 1057 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,599 kind of pull out what are our values as 1058 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:57,839 far as transportation choices and how 1059 00:42:57,839 --> 00:42:59,280 we're investing in those. I don't know 1060 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,960 that was I was just trying to think of 1061 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,870 how do we create that context. 1062 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,480 Thank you. That's very helpful. Anyone 1063 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,160 else? 1064 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,520 >> Do we have anyone online or 1065 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,119 >> I'm looking online for any comments. I'm 1066 00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:12,640 not seeing any at the moment, but I will 1067 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,560 note that Weber County Commissioner 1068 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,560 Sharon Bolos joined us earlier as did 1069 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,480 Mary Katherine Perry from the Salt Lake 1070 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,680 Chamber. So, welcome friends. 1071 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,720 >> Thank you. 1072 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,280 >> All right. Thank you so much. 1073 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,119 >> Okay. Community planning updates. This 1074 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,200 item covers a lot of ground that relates 1075 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,880 to planning in communities across the 1076 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,480 region. 1077 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,240 The Utah housing capacity analysis. The 1078 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:35,599 first item looks at the new statewide 1079 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,520 housing analysis. The governor's office 1080 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,200 of economic development recently 1081 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,680 produced a statewide housing capacity 1082 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,599 constraints analysis with the help of 1083 00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:45,520 envision Utah to help local leaders and 1084 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,520 infrastructure providers plan for Utah's 1085 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,160 growth. I know representatives from both 1086 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,960 god. 1087 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,319 Are you gonna me? 1088 00:43:54,319 --> 00:43:56,079 >> We don't have goed. Oh, okay. So, we 1089 00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,000 have envision Utah here though, right? 1090 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,359 Okay. So, first like to invite uh Ty 1091 00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:02,800 Mcken 1092 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,040 >> McCutchen and Jason Brown from Envision 1093 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,920 Utah. Thank you. 1094 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,160 >> All right. Thank you. Uh thank you to 1095 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,599 our chair for putting this on the agenda today. 1096 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,440 I'm I'm happy to to be here to talk 1097 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,240 about this. Um as was mentioned, Ty, our 1098 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,880 chair is here uh to add some insight. Uh 1099 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,200 we also have uh our great planning team, 1100 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,240 Cody Lutz and Emma Clinton here. Uh so 1101 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,640 when we come to some Q&A and discussion, 1102 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,280 you're all of us are fair game uh to to 1103 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,119 jump in and or to answer questions or or 1104 00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:38,160 have questions directed to us. Um I'm 1105 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,040 going to take a page out of some college 1106 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,480 journalism classes and I'm going to 1107 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,160 start with the headline and then I'm 1108 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,440 going to go back and give some context 1109 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,760 for this. So, the headline of this 1110 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,400 analysis and this study uh is that over 1111 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,599 the next 30 years, we expect that we're 1112 00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:56,960 going to need in the state 840,000 1113 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,800 new homes in order to meet our demand. 1114 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,520 And when we look at the uh constraints 1115 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,400 that we have on the housing market, uh 1116 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,640 we are only going to be able to build 1117 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,280 about 600,000 of those uh based on the 1118 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,119 constraints as they stand today. In 1119 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:14,160 other words, we're going to come up 1120 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,960 short by about 235,000 homes. So, 1121 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,160 there's the headline. Let me give you 1122 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,319 just a little bit of uh background on 1123 00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:22,560 this. Um, this is not the kind of 1124 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,319 analysis that can be done by just 1125 00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:26,160 sitting in a room and staring at maps 1126 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,599 until you you come up with the answer. 1127 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,000 We had a lot of partners uh who helped. 1128 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,079 As was mentioned, uh the governor's 1129 00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:35,359 office of economic uh development now I 1130 00:45:35,359 --> 00:45:38,400 guess uh was uh over oversaw this. This 1131 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,720 uh is an idea that came out of the 1132 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:43,520 governor's uh or the commission for 1133 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,720 economic opportunity. Um and uh and the 1134 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:48,400 bit the real question that we were 1135 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,839 trying to answer was, you know, we know 1136 00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:51,599 that we have a housing shortage. We've 1137 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,839 seen the the data around uh around the 1138 00:45:53,839 --> 00:45:55,760 mismatch between new households per year 1139 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,000 and new housing units per year. Uh it's 1140 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,160 expected to get worse, but do we 1141 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,440 actually have the capacity to build the 1142 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,079 housing that we need uh to meet demand? 1143 00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,079 And at this point, I do want to give a 1144 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,160 moment to Ty. Ty was on the Economic 1145 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,079 Opportunities Commission uh along with 1146 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,359 Andrew and helped uh create the idea for 1147 00:46:15,359 --> 00:46:17,119 this, which was eventually funded by the 1148 00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,440 legislature uh and and passed through 1149 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,200 Goyo and and we were able to bid on the 1150 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,640 project and get it. But Ty, do you want 1151 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,640 to add any insights into the impetus for 1152 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,119 this? 1153 00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:27,599 >> Uh sure. Um it's good to be with you 1154 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:30,000 today. Um th this all started because 1155 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,839 and and this I'm a poster child for 1156 00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:34,000 don't complain to the wrong person uh 1157 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,720 because you'll get tasked with work. Um 1158 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:38,720 I was at breakfast with the then speaker 1159 00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:42,560 and I was grousing about how um we don't 1160 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,000 have enough infrastructure in the right 1161 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,839 places to attract the types of 1162 00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:47,599 businesses the state really wants to 1163 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,079 draw. That that was sort of my point. 1164 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:53,359 And I used the example of the TSMC chip 1165 00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:55,440 plant down in Phoenix. And I said why 1166 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,119 did they pick Phoenix for that chip 1167 00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:58,400 plant? And I said, "Well, they they had 1168 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,160 a big loop freeway going through like 1169 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,040 50,000 acres of desert, and that was why 1170 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,880 the chip plant went there." I mean, 1171 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,240 there were other reasons, but that was a 1172 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,640 big one. And he next thing I know, I got 1173 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,920 a call from somebody and said, "You've 1174 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,160 been appointed to this uh work group of 1175 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,839 the UEOC that's going to think about 1176 00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:15,119 growth and infrastructure." And I said, 1177 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:19,680 "Oh, great." Um, so out of that, we we 1178 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,319 really thought hard about where are we 1179 00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:24,560 going to put all of this growth? uh and 1180 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,599 do we actually have enough 1181 00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:27,680 infrastructure to support it? That that 1182 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,359 was my sort of starting point question 1183 00:47:29,359 --> 00:47:31,119 and it grew out of this this breakfast 1184 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,800 conversation. And so um Andrew will 1185 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,200 remember as we were conceptualizing how 1186 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,520 this might work. It's not an easy thing 1187 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,160 to to forecast not only the growth for 1188 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,520 the entire state but sort of where it's 1189 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,599 going to go. And so we went back to the 1190 00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:47,119 beginnings of the original quality 1191 00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:49,839 growth strategies that that were kind of 1192 00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:52,079 put forward and agreed upon in large 1193 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,480 measure by uh residents of of then 1194 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,319 predominantly the Wasatch front uh back 1195 00:47:56,319 --> 00:47:58,640 in the mid late 90s. The original 1196 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,000 quality growth strategy that Envision 1197 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,440 Utah put forward. You remember the 1198 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,760 little uh surveys in the newspaper and 1199 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,119 Governor Levit saying fill out the 1200 00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:07,680 survey. Uh well that was what drove that 1201 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,520 first vision um for our region and it 1202 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,760 was updated again in 2014. But but we 1203 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,079 said if if we were to take the buckets 1204 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:17,599 and Jason's going to talk a lot about 1205 00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:18,880 these buckets, but if we were to take 1206 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,760 the buckets that sort of drive how land 1207 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,160 can be developed and used, you know, we 1208 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,000 have transit nodes, ERT, light rail, 1209 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,880 heavy rail, so forth. We have infill, 1210 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,559 you know, places in our cities where 1211 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:34,160 there's some or a good deal of 1212 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,680 infrastructure already and we could add 1213 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,359 some units. And then there's the green 1214 00:48:37,359 --> 00:48:39,440 field. And so the thought was if we if 1215 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,000 we took a demand model which we've done 1216 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,400 an amazing job and WFRC is I think one 1217 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,000 of the best in the country at this which 1218 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,160 is pulling in all of the inputs from the 1219 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,640 local jurisdictions and aggregating them 1220 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,280 but into a plan that we can then use to 1221 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,040 drive statewide planning for 1222 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,200 infrastructure primarily transportation 1223 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,400 in this context. But um what if we what 1224 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,160 if we spread the peanut butter so to 1225 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,440 speak across all these acres and then 1226 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,119 started to cut off the pieces of the 1227 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,680 bread that that don't really exist 1228 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,359 topographically 1229 00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:13,119 because of infrastructure constraints 1230 00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:14,880 because we run out of those acres to 1231 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,440 spread the peanut butter over. Uh how 1232 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,559 many units are we going to end up with? 1233 00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:21,920 And so now we know. Uh I'll let Jason go 1234 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,280 into the details of but that was really 1235 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,079 the motivation behind doing the work and 1236 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:28,800 it was very unique in that we married 1237 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,920 not just the land plans that exist and 1238 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,440 the great planning work but with what 1239 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,839 the market will do with all that and so 1240 00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:38,000 the nexus of those two things to me is 1241 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,440 what's really unique and 1242 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,880 transformational about what this is 1243 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,359 teaching us and where we go with it. So 1244 00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:46,720 >> thank you Ty. Okay so uh yeah I'll give 1245 00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,559 you a little bit of the details of this 1246 00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:50,400 process. So we did start with creating 1247 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,800 that structural demand model and to 1248 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,800 create that we looked at uh where are 1249 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,880 market trends going and how do those 1250 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,559 interplay with our demographic 1251 00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:01,119 forecasts. Uh oh I should also mention 1252 00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:04,000 uh we used for the modeling work uh a 1253 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,640 really reputable national partner um RCL 1254 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,280 co- real estate uh consultants. They 1255 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,640 have a long history of doing a lot of 1256 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,880 great work here in Utah. Uh demographic 1257 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,559 forecasts of course came from the the 1258 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,040 gardener policy institute here. But um 1259 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,960 so you you you mix together the market 1260 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,640 trends and demographic forecasts and you 1261 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,640 get a sense of what the demand is going 1262 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,800 to be and then like Tai said you kind of 1263 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,559 spread the peanut butter so to speak you 1264 00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:28,319 spread that out uh to create the 1265 00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:31,440 distribution model uh which is where is 1266 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,240 the demand going to be uh based on a 1267 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,720 number of uh factors there. And then the 1268 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:38,720 constraints or the cutting is the of the 1269 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,359 bread uh that we looked at were um water 1270 00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:44,400 availability of course um and uh planned 1271 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,640 sewer capacity, planned transportation 1272 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,200 infrastructure, uh land use planning and 1273 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,160 zoning uh and then uh of course you know 1274 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,920 what land is actually developable 1275 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,559 because we have a lot of uh natural 1276 00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:58,880 difficult to change constraints here. Mo 1277 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,400 a lot of the other constraints there are 1278 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,400 things that we can do something with 1279 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,359 which is where I want to tee up uh the 1280 00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:07,359 discussion and question after or at the 1281 00:51:07,359 --> 00:51:09,760 end of going through the data is well 1282 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,599 where do we go from here what can we do 1283 00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:13,839 about the constraints that that we've 1284 00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:17,520 identified um okay so the first piece of 1285 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,359 this the statewide structural demand 1286 00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:20,640 this is where the number came from I 1287 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,400 apologize if this is a little small but 1288 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,880 uh we have 842,000 1289 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,280 units that we expect uh we're going to 1290 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,800 need over the next uh 30 years. And you 1291 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,200 can see uh in the pie chart there how 1292 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,000 that breaks out. We have about 50% a 1293 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,880 little bit more than 50% I think that uh 1294 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,720 of the demand is going to be in single 1295 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,839 family detached housing. Uh 35% of the 1296 00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:48,640 demand is going to be for multifamily or single family attached housing and 1297 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,119 then uh it's about 15ish% 1298 00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:53,200 uh of the demand we expect to be for 1299 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,440 multifamily housing. Yeah. Ted 1300 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,520 >> Jason. And that demand forecast is is 1301 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,480 based on the combination of what people 1302 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,400 prefer and what they can afford. 1303 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:09,829 >> Yes. Yes. Uhhuh. Yeah. 1304 00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:10,720 » Categories. 1305 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:13,440 >> Yeah. Uhhuh. So the big one is uh uh 1306 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,960 about 50% of of demand that is for um 1307 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,599 single family detached housing. Uh the 1308 00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:23,839 next biggest one is about 35% or 34% and 1309 00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:26,559 that is for uh single family attached 1310 00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,960 housing and then the smallest uh piece 1311 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,839 of the pie is for multifamily housing. 1312 00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:34,000 Okay, apologize for the size there. 1313 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,680 Really helpful to sort of wrap your 1314 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,520 brain around what is the big picture. 1315 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,319 What is the need for different types of 1316 00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:45,280 housing in the decades to come in our in 1317 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,119 our state? Those three categories. Thank 1318 00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,040 you. And one more question. When when 1319 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,520 you gave the headline, was that 1320 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,760 including the deficit that we already 1321 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,599 have? Because there's supposedly a big 1322 00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:56,720 deficit right now. 1323 00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:59,440 >> Yes. Yeah. So, uh I I'm not sure the the 1324 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,680 latest numbers, but uh we've hovered 1325 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,400 over the last 10 years or so, uh 1326 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,839 somewhere between, you know, I think the 1327 00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:08,640 low was around 15,000 short or units 1328 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,200 short to 50,000. We've been last couple 1329 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,839 years, I think 20 or 30 or so units or 1330 00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:19,040 thousand units short. And so it's just a cumulative deficit over time. So by 1331 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,280 the year 2055, 1332 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,960 how many units short are we going to be? 1333 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,599 And and the answer is about five to 1334 00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:27,920 eight times worse than we are today. 1335 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,920 >> Jason, it's the new deficit that adds on 1336 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,599 to our existing deficit. 1337 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:34,319 >> So Oh, sorry. I I misspoke. It is the 1338 00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:36,559 new deficit that adds on to our existing 1339 00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:36,960 deficit. 1340 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,480 >> Yeah. Thank you. Because there's a giant 1341 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,400 deficit right now, right? We were 1342 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,160 concerned about the right now. 1343 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,480 >> Yeah. Yeah. 1344 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,079 >> And now that's that's kind of 1345 00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:45,440 astounding. Yeah. I think 1346 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,599 >> can I add one thing, Jason, as well. Um 1347 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:49,760 we won't go into it today, but what was 1348 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,839 so interesting about the work is it it 1349 00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:54,000 really built in each of the high growth 1350 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,000 areas of the state. So Cash Valley, you 1351 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,520 know, it's not just Salt Lake County, 1352 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,440 Utah County, Davis County, or Washington 1353 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,839 County. it added in some of these first 1354 00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:04,160 ring high growth areas and and the 1355 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,200 modeling um took into account the the 1356 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,359 household quantity, the household 1357 00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:11,760 composition, as Ted said, the budget. 1358 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,839 And so that's how these aggregated 1359 00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:16,000 numbers were built up. And so they were 1360 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,880 built from the local neighborhoods and 1361 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,559 then aggregated up, not the other way 1362 00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:22,319 around. Does that make sense? And I 1363 00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:23,760 think that's an important piece of sort 1364 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,520 of how the framework was put together. 1365 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,040 And I think the staff did an amazing job 1366 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,839 with that. 1367 00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:29,359 >> Thank you. That's a really really 1368 00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:32,960 important insight. Um, okay. And then 1369 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,680 there we go. Oops. Okay. And and then, 1370 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,599 uh, as was mentioned, we kind of we 1371 00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:39,359 looked at the different buckets. Uh, 1372 00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:40,640 maybe actually I'll go to this next 1373 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,040 slide. Um, again, I'm worried this might 1374 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,880 be a little small. We have a map here 1375 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,640 that is only for illustrative purposes 1376 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,160 right now because it's uh difficult to 1377 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:48,400 read. 1378 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,520 >> Can I interrupt you really quick? 1379 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,119 >> Oh, yeah. Sorry. We have a we have a 1380 00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:51,760 question. 1381 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,760 >> Oh, yeah. Professor Yuing. 1382 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,750 >> Yeah. 1383 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,440 Hi. I'm Could we go back to I've 1384 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,079 got dogs in the background here who've 1385 00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,319 just been set off by something. Someone 1386 00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:09,280 walking by. Um could we go back to the 1387 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,640 last slide, please? No, the one before 1388 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,079 that. 1389 00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:18,079 >> No, the single family attached is 1390 00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:19,760 missing. No. 1391 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,000 >> Oh, this one. Yeah. Yeah. single family 1392 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,040 attached includes the missing middle and 1393 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,760 I'm surprised that the uh slice pie 1394 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,440 slice is that large for single family 1395 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,400 attached. I would have expected 1396 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,440 multifamily to be about that size and 1397 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,760 single family attached to be the 1398 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,880 multifamily slice size. Could you 1399 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,559 elaborate on that? 1400 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:47,599 >> That's interesting. 1401 00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:49,839 >> I'm gonna Cody, can we elaborate on 1402 00:55:49,839 --> 00:55:51,440 that? 1403 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,640 Do you want do you want to come grab the 1404 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:58,549 mic here? 1405 00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:01,280 » Good question, Reed. That's so so yeah, 1406 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,119 you're right. Our current trends are 1407 00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:05,280 more multifamily than single family 1408 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,079 attached. Um but as as we looked at the 1409 00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:10,799 demographics moving forward, we see a 1410 00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:14,000 lot of um households aging into like key 1411 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,160 household formation stages, but families 1412 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,160 are a lot smaller. So there's an 1413 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,359 increasing demand for those um kind of 1414 00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:23,200 small family type products, but people 1415 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,200 are kind of like aging out of their 1416 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,680 primary multifamily years basically. 1417 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,079 >> Great. Thank you. 1418 00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:33,200 >> Thank you. 1419 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,720 >> Okay, so uh we looked at where housing 1420 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,880 could go based on uh several different 1421 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,880 market types. We we originally looked at 1422 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,880 six and then uh you'll see that we 1423 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,119 landed on about three of of real 1424 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,280 importance here. So the the six market 1425 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,599 types are greenfield development areas 1426 00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:51,680 or greenfield markets where we you know 1427 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,920 currently vacant land uh where we don't 1428 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,160 have housing infill markets and that's 1429 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,760 obviously within our existing 1430 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,920 communities cities and towns. Uh we 1431 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,240 looked at transit adjacent markets and 1432 00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,640 uh within a certain distance of our uh 1433 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,160 transit stops and for transit we were 1434 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,040 looking specifically at uh rail and BRT. 1435 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,640 Uh and then uh we also considered uh 1436 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,440 priority seasonal areas uh which is you 1437 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,280 know where we have non a lot of non- 1438 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,000 primary residents. We looked at uh uh 1439 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,799 excluded seasonal areas which are um 1440 00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:24,720 also you know lots of non-primary 1441 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,240 residents and then and then commercial 1442 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,240 industrial areas that and what we found 1443 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,839 is those bottom three the seasonal and 1444 00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:32,000 commercial industrial there's they're 1445 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,440 not going to play a significant role 1446 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,160 here. We don't expect a ton of change uh 1447 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,799 in in those areas I guess. So, uh, the 1448 00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:40,880 main buckets, oops, going back here that 1449 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,079 we looked at were these three. 1450 00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:43,920 Greenfield, transit adjacent, and 1451 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,520 infill. Uh, those are the main buckets 1452 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,680 that will receive or can receive the 1453 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,040 housing demand that we have. 1454 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,400 >> Jason, while you're on that, Council 1455 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,160 Member Stout asked a question. Is there 1456 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,400 a percentage of each of those groups 1457 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,640 that's estimated to be rental properties 1458 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,559 versus owner occupied? 1459 00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:00,000 >> Oo, that is a good question. I'm going 1460 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,359 to defer to the planning team again. Do 1461 00:58:01,359 --> 00:58:04,400 we have details on that one? 1462 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,240 Emma's looking that up. 1463 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:13,670 We need to come back to that one. 1464 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,400 The the So there's a full report which 1465 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,079 has a lot more detail. It's already been 1466 00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:19,839 dropped in the chat and in the followup 1467 00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:22,559 to this meeting, we'll send a link to 1468 00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:25,680 that report so people can dig in. And 1469 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,839 yes, the question of rental versus owner 1470 00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:30,160 occupied is a critical question. We 1471 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,079 already hit on that in this meeting. So, 1472 00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:33,760 thank you, council member, for asking 1473 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,200 that question, and we'll make sure that 1474 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,359 we see what's in the report about that. 1475 00:58:37,359 --> 00:58:39,359 >> Okay. All right. Sounds great. Um, okay. 1476 00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:41,599 I'm going to go to this is where I think 1477 00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:43,119 things get really exciting here. looking 1478 00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,280 at uh the different market types or 1479 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,760 these three main market types. We also 1480 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,960 did divvy up transit adjacent uh markets 1481 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,520 in infill areas versus transit adjacent 1482 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,200 markets in green field areas because we 1483 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,079 have uh some transit adjacent or transit 1484 00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,720 planned for areas that currently are 1485 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,920 essentially green field. They don't have 1486 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,839 a lot of uh housing that currently 1487 00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:06,880 exists but they will in the future. So 1488 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,520 um if we were to when we looked at the 1489 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,799 visioning work that we've done at 1490 00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:12,480 Envision Utah that that is part of the 1491 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,079 Wasatch Choice vision and the 1492 00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:15,520 conversations around growth that have 1493 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,359 happened over the last uh two and a half 1494 00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:19,920 decades or more uh we came up with a 1495 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,559 target distribution that that kind of 1496 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:26,640 aligns with um uh what what 1497 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,319 opportunities we also have available. 1498 00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:30,880 And so if we were to try and meet what 1499 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,280 we expect demand to be, we are going to 1500 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,480 see about 50% of our uh new housing 1501 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,880 units land in Greenfield areas. Oh, I 1502 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,400 should say these numbers are only to for 1503 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,240 the Wasatch front. So this is not 1504 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,680 looking at the entire state, but just 1505 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,680 the Wasatch front. So we expect 1506 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,319 >> inclusive of Utah County, not just WFRC, 1507 00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:48,559 right? 1508 00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:52,240 >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Not the WRC, but the Yeah. the the Wasatch front there. 1509 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,920 So, we expect about 318,000 units to 1510 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,599 land in Greenfield in the Greenfield 1511 00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:00,720 bucket. Uh about 191,000 units to land 1512 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,720 in the infill bucket and about 127,000 1513 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,599 units to land in the uh transit adjacent 1514 01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:10,480 bucket. Just to give you an idea of what 1515 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,799 that looks like based on current project 1516 01:00:12,799 --> 01:00:14,319 or current densities and and sort of 1517 01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:16,079 trending that out. Uh that's about 1518 01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:19,200 64,000 acres in Greenfield, 26,000 acres 1519 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,960 of of new uh homes in infill and 9,000 1520 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,440 new acres of homes in transit adjacent. 1521 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,839 I'll just a side note, that's right now 1522 01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:30,319 about twice what we have in uh in 1523 01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:33,440 current uh transit adjacent acreage. Um 1524 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,680 so obviously you know acres can be 1525 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,440 variable depending on what densities end 1526 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,760 up looking like but uh just as a a 1527 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,640 reference point real quick. Okay now 1528 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,319 let's look at the constraints. Uh when 1529 01:00:44,319 --> 01:00:46,640 we look at our green field areas the 1530 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,119 constraints on housing or the biggest 1531 01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:51,119 constraints on housing are uh perhaps 1532 01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:53,839 not surprisingly water uh but then also 1533 01:00:53,839 --> 01:00:56,079 infrastructure and planning and zoning. 1534 01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:57,920 And I want to put just a little bit of 1535 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,160 uh of commentary on the infrastructure 1536 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,440 piece. When we think about 318,000 1537 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,319 units, we are talking about a a scale of 1538 01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:07,839 housing that needs to be developed over 1539 01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:11,200 the next 30 years that is not going to 1540 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,079 really be handled by building uh roads 1541 01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:17,200 out to you know small uh small you know 1542 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,640 200 500 unit developments uh one little 1543 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,359 neighborhood at a time. This is a lot of 1544 01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:24,960 housing that is going to have to be 1545 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,839 built and to serve that housing we're 1546 01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:29,520 going to need some pretty massive 1547 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,880 infrastructure probably more 1548 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,599 infrastructure uh if I can uh add some of my own views on this probably 1549 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:40,000 more infrastructure than we can put uh or that that can be handled by a 1550 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,000 single city or a single developer. This 1551 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,240 is infrastructure that of a regional 1552 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,839 scale where we're going to have to think 1553 01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:49,359 about where do we want uh major um 1554 01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:51,520 transportation access to be. Where do we 1555 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,160 want major water uh availability to be 1556 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,079 created? Uh and then of course planning 1557 01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:57,920 and zoning uh is is another constraint 1558 01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,359 that we currently have on on some of the 1559 01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:01,760 greenfield areas. Infill areas. The main 1560 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,680 constraints are again you know planning 1561 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,400 and zoning uh redevelopment potential uh 1562 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:11,280 which is also tied to infrastructure in a lot of our infill areas. And then 1563 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,000 uh transit adjacent uh when we look at 1564 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,559 our infill areas, redevelopment 1565 01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:18,000 potential I think is one of the big 1566 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,839 constraints that we see there in our uh 1567 01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:25,040 currently existing cities and towns. The number of transit nodes uh is 1568 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,680 another constraint. uh we can you can 1569 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,160 only have uh we only have so many 1570 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,559 currently identified and planned uh 1571 01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:34,480 transit nodes and you know if we had 1572 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,040 more I think then we'd have more acreage 1573 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,280 uh available to uh to build around 1574 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,920 transit areas and then for the green 1575 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,920 field transit de or transit adjacent 1576 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,839 markets one of the biggest constraints 1577 01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:47,040 and challenges is going to just be 1578 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,400 lining up the timing because it's going 1579 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,400 to be uh you know it's a little bit of a 1580 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,280 balancing act and and tricky to to uh 1581 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,079 time the market right to get the uh the 1582 01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,000 densities that that we would expect or 1583 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,960 to or want to see uh around immediately 1584 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,960 around transit stops when they don't 1585 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,559 have a lot of existing infrastructure 1586 01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:06,799 and and city around them already. And so 1587 01:03:06,799 --> 01:03:09,520 that gives leads us to here's the math 1588 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,680 um the actual shortage along the Wasatch 1589 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,359 front. When we look at the constraints, 1590 01:03:13,359 --> 01:03:16,640 greenfield areas come up 78,000 uh homes 1591 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,720 short. Infill areas come up 48,500 1592 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,039 homes short. and our transit adjacent 1593 01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:26,559 areas come up uh just under 70,000 homes 1594 01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:30,400 short by the time we reach uh 2055. 1595 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,280 So this is really I think the heart of what we found. Um for the sake of 1596 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,960 time I'm going to just go real quick. 1597 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,799 Oh. Oh then of course I should mention 1598 01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:41,599 water is our constant uh constant 1599 01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:43,440 constrained companion. uh that's going 1600 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,280 to need a lot of careful consideration 1601 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,359 there both in terms of the supply and 1602 01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:48,960 managing the supply that we have and 1603 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,400 then treatment and of course 1604 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,160 distribution and making you know that's 1605 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,400 going to be a constant constraint that 1606 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,920 we're going to have to be working with. 1607 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,280 >> Jason just pause here for one sec. Okay. 1608 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,640 So 1609 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,920 >> what do you when I look at this and I've 1610 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,440 been looking at these numbers for a long 1611 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,760 time but when I look at this I see an 1612 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,240 all of the above strategy. What do we do 1613 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,640 as Utons to deal with the growth 1614 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,760 challenges that we face? And it's we 1615 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,319 need new green field development. We 1616 01:04:18,319 --> 01:04:20,640 need suburban infill and we need transit 1617 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,359 adjacent. And you know that may look 1618 01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:26,079 differently in Grantsville where you 1619 01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:28,400 have, as we've discussed, lots and lots 1620 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,319 of development occurring in Greenfield 1621 01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:32,319 areas than it will in Taylor'sville 1622 01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:34,240 where it's suburban infill and and 1623 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,760 transit oriented development. It's going 1624 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,760 to be different community by community, 1625 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,039 but rit large, it's an all of the above. 1626 01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:42,480 And it's actually, if you think about 1627 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,520 it, it's kind of remarkably balanced in 1628 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,079 terms of the shortfall as you as you 1629 01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:49,839 look at it. And then you think about, 1630 01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:51,760 well, what are and Tai was saying this, 1631 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,000 what are the uh constraints, the 1632 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,920 impediments that stand in the way? And 1633 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,000 infrastructure 1634 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,359 um is one of the the key elements. And 1635 01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:05,839 as Jason, as you were presenting, I saw 1636 01:05:05,839 --> 01:05:09,520 Mayor Tran grab her legislative summary 1637 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,200 uh postcard. Do you do you want to say 1638 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,880 why you grabbed your legislative summary 1639 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,520 postcard? 1640 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,359 >> Well, just because infrastructure is so 1641 01:05:15,359 --> 01:05:16,880 important and we do have some funding. 1642 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,799 We had some good bills passed, so 1643 01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:20,400 hopefully we'll see some good 1644 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,559 infrastructure developed in the next 1645 01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:23,440 couple years. 1646 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,720 >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And you know, um th 1647 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,559 this is by my saying what I'm about to 1648 01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:30,000 say now, it'll shorten what I'm going to 1649 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,000 say later in legislative updates. So, 1650 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,400 you're welcome. Um, 1651 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,880 so sometimes I feel like we sit in these 1652 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,680 meetings and I think you know, Mayor 1653 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,839 Doherty, you're new to this committee 1654 01:05:41,839 --> 01:05:44,000 and you're like, okay, this data is all 1655 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,000 really interesting and there's so much 1656 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,400 work that goes into it. Uh, how does 1657 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,599 this translate down into what's 1658 01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:53,200 happening in my in my city, right? Well, 1659 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,200 if you take what Tai said before about 1660 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,599 the big picture challenges and we do 1661 01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:01,039 this analysis and think about well what are the development patterns that 1662 01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:03,200 we need and then you think what about 1663 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,680 what are the constraints and because we 1664 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,480 identify those constraints we know that 1665 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,400 infrastructure is one of the regional 1666 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,880 infrastructure needed to unlock housing 1667 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,880 development that as you said one city or 1668 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,960 one developer couldn't do on their own 1669 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,160 and then that all informs policym 1670 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,079 and mayor Bradshaw knows this because 1671 01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:24,240 she was deeply involved in this every 1672 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,280 day of the session. That in many ways 1673 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,359 led directly to one of the most 1674 01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:31,440 important pieces of legislation this 1675 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,559 past session, House Bill 492, sponsored 1676 01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:36,160 by Representative Cal Roberts from 1677 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,440 Draper, which authorizes 1678 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,760 $250 million in state funding for 1679 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,400 regional infrastructure that's designed 1680 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,680 to unlock housing development. 150 1681 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,480 million of that is grant funds in Salt 1682 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,599 Lake County and a 100 million of that is 1683 01:06:55,599 --> 01:06:58,240 loan funds at favorable interest terms 1684 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,760 around the state and that work emerges. 1685 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,880 So then mayor a city like Clinton can 1686 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,240 say working with developers we need help 1687 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,960 to put in you know the lift station the 1688 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,200 sewer line the water infrastructure the 1689 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,440 roadway infrastructure to enable 1690 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,680 development to occur. So you see this 1691 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,960 through line from conceiving a problem, 1692 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,960 analyzing it, understanding the data, 1693 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,720 identifying the stren constraints, and 1694 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,760 then having policym that addresses it. 1695 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,799 So I'm hoping that that ties together uh 1696 01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:32,400 what we're what we're trying to do here. 1697 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,559 >> Yeah. Well, and I would like to say we 1698 01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:36,480 like to think of this as this is our 1699 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,280 baseline scenario. This is this is a 1700 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,359 look at what the constraints are today. 1701 01:07:41,359 --> 01:07:44,559 But the task that we all have as as a 1702 01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:47,599 region, as a state, is to figure out how 1703 01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:49,119 do we not land here? Because I don't 1704 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:50,640 think anyone wants to land with a 1705 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,960 shortage that's uh you know somewhere 1706 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,640 between five and eight times worse than 1707 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,319 it is today. That's not going to do much 1708 01:07:56,319 --> 01:07:58,400 for quality of life, for affordability. 1709 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,319 And so so that's really the invitation 1710 01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:02,160 that I think this gives all of us is to 1711 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:08,720 say all right how do we come up with the plans the policies the the visions 1712 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,359 the transportation infrastructure the uh 1713 01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:13,520 the centers you know that that are going 1714 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,680 to help us address all of this and so 1715 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,319 that's sort of uh what I want to to pose 1716 01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:20,159 as the question for us. One other quick 1717 01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:21,920 thing I just want to jump to real quick 1718 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,679 here and then we can get into some more 1719 01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:26,000 discussion on that is because we're at 1720 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,520 WFRC uh we wanted to just uh put put a 1721 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,440 plug in here as was mentioned uh 1722 01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:33,199 centersbased development is is a big 1723 01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:35,359 piece of the Wasatchet choice vision and 1724 01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:37,839 we we think that that's an applicable 1725 01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:40,159 and helpful strategy in all of these 1726 01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:42,640 buckets. I mean I think the obvious ones 1727 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,400 that we can think of are the around 1728 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,159 transit adjacent especially the station 1729 01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:48,239 area planning. Um but as we look at 1730 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:50,560 infill uh making sure that we have a 1731 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,719 centerbased uh approach in some new 1732 01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:56,159 infill development that's going to help 1733 01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:58,080 uh create the housing opportunities and 1734 01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,520 quality of life aspects that we're 1735 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,480 looking for. Uh but also as we develop 1736 01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:04,159 318,000 1737 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:06,480 green fields homes along the Wasatch 1738 01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:09,359 front. If we can uh incorporate centers 1739 01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:11,279 within our planning there, we're going 1740 01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:13,279 to uh make sure that we're building on 1741 01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:14,719 less land and keeping more land 1742 01:09:14,719 --> 01:09:17,520 available, but also facilitating uh the 1743 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,480 long-term access to transportation uh 1744 01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:22,400 and uh and the quality of life aspects 1745 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,880 that we know are are part of what uh 1746 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,319 Utons are looking for. 1747 01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:28,640 >> Jason, can I do a one quick add-on onto 1748 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:28,960 that, 1749 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,120 >> please? Yeah. So you talked about 1750 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,400 transit adjacent as having a green field 1751 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:40,159 aspect too and UTA knows this and we all 1752 01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:41,920 know this. It's part of the Wasuch 1753 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,920 Choice challenge is if we want more 1754 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,880 transit, we have to have the development 1755 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,839 that get has people close enough to 1756 01:09:49,839 --> 01:09:51,359 stations that they want to get on board 1757 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:54,159 and that then the funders of transit in 1758 01:09:54,159 --> 01:09:56,560 turn say that's a good bet for us to 1759 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,719 build that transit line. And so 1760 01:09:58,719 --> 01:10:01,840 Greenfield Centers is part of creating 1761 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,000 more stations in green field areas. I 1762 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,280 just wanted to make that connection. 1763 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:05,840 >> Yep. 1764 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:06,159 >> Yeah. 1765 01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:09,199 >> Um in our last minute or two, I I want 1766 01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:11,760 to suggest that that the next set of 1767 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,080 questions that this provokes is along 1768 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,080 the lines of where Andrew and Ted have 1769 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:20,640 just gone. So if we if we say, okay, we need to deliver this many hundred 1770 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,800 thousand homes or this many tens of 1771 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,800 thousands homes in the green field. 1772 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,640 Well, roll back 30 years and think about 1773 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,520 Salt Lake County and think about the 1774 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,280 opportunity that existed in the 1775 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,159 southwest corner of of Salt Lake County. 1776 01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:38,239 And the state made significant 1777 01:10:38,239 --> 01:10:40,400 investments to build out the Bangoder 1778 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,640 Highway and the Mountain View corridor. 1779 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,520 The state along with UTA and others uh 1780 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,320 funded the expansion of our light rail 1781 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:53,199 system uh including to Daybreak. uh 1782 01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:57,120 where is that next place? Uh when we 1783 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,400 were meeting with Representative 1784 01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,840 Roberts, he said, "Well, can you just 1785 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,360 draw a line on a map and show me where 1786 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,280 the road should go?" And I said, "Well, 1787 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,159 I don't know yet." Um but that's a 1788 01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:07,600 question we should all start to think 1789 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,800 about. Where is that next opportunity to 1790 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,920 open up? But at then was, you know, 1791 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,560 between the lands that that Kennot owned 1792 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,320 that became Daybreak, between what the 1793 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,320 Sorenson's owned that became a couple of 1794 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,159 big master plans what the church owned, 1795 01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:25,280 you know, we're talking about 20 30,000 1796 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,840 acres probably of land that were in that 1797 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,600 quadrant of the Salt Lake County that 1798 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,000 are now South Jordan, Haramman, 1799 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,719 Riverton, Bluffale. uh and the 1800 01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:37,679 population went from very little to we 1801 01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:39,600 all know a couple hundred thousand in in 1802 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,480 those set of communities. So that that's 1803 01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:43,760 the question that I think we should be 1804 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,280 asking about the green field. Where are 1805 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,600 those places? This, you know, are they 1806 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,840 Twilla County? Are they southwest Utah 1807 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,480 County? Are they somewhere else? Um on 1808 01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:54,960 the infill, you know, it's it's a little 1809 01:11:54,960 --> 01:12:00,800 bit of everything uh to quote Andrew and taking instead of two houses on a 1810 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,880 lot, we put four houses on a lot. you 1811 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,640 know, what what are the infrastructure 1812 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,080 challenges with that and what are the 1813 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,840 public policy and zoning challenges with 1814 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,400 that? Because I know every time there's 1815 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,719 an applicant in front of your city, uh, 1816 01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:14,880 everybody wants to add units to the 1817 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,400 proposal, right? Not really. Everybody 1818 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:19,760 says, "Could you just take four out? 1819 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,159 We'll be happy." Um, so that's a a big 1820 01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:24,239 challenge for us. And then the the 1821 01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:27,040 transit, it it's really where we were 30 1822 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,840 plus years ago. Where is that new 1823 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,840 system? And then what are the trade-offs 1824 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,520 that we need to make? Because the 1825 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,280 assumption that the model has is that 1826 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,080 the market can only build uh stick frame 1827 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,840 over podium. In most of the market, the 1828 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,320 denser construction typologies are too 1829 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,520 expensive to be supported. But maybe 1830 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,600 with study and and understanding, maybe 1831 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,600 it's a better investment to subsidize 1832 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,679 the construction of denser units than it 1833 01:12:53,679 --> 01:12:56,719 is to build another 100 miles of rail. I 1834 01:12:56,719 --> 01:12:59,040 don't know. It's a good question. Um or 1835 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,800 is it a mix of the two? You know, in 1836 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,040 some places we we subsidize 1837 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,600 densification at transit nodes with 1838 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,199 construction typologies that are more 1839 01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:09,120 expensive because it's more economical 1840 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,480 than just expanding the system or is it 1841 01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:14,000 no, we need to find green field places 1842 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,880 to expand the system to um allow the 1843 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,280 next set of daybreaks. So I think these 1844 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:20,560 are some really interesting questions 1845 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,000 that that we should all start to 1846 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,239 entertain and think about and that will 1847 01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:27,040 lead us to a similar type of effort that 1848 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,080 was 30 years ago for the next 30 years. 1849 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,960 So it it is solvable. Uh it's our 1850 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,640 baseline only because it's what happens 1851 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,480 if we do nothing. I don't think it's our 1852 01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:37,760 baseline because that's what we're going 1853 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,760 to choose to do and that's the 1854 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,080 opportunity. So 1855 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,480 >> I we post questions to the group. Madam 1856 01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:45,760 Chair, I'm I'm going to assume that we 1857 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:46,800 don't have a lot of time to take 1858 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,960 questions. We do have a couple minutes. 1859 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,239 Great. Let's go ahead and take some 1860 01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:51,440 questions. Thanks. 1861 01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:54,239 >> Um, thank you all of you who've helped 1862 01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:57,040 with this part of the 1863 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,040 agenda. It's fascinating and so 1864 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,760 important. And I this what you just 1865 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,080 barely said about the transit 1866 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,719 reinvestment zones. And that's what I 1867 01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:08,640 was saying that last year when we had so 1868 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,880 many groups come and explain, they 1869 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,320 talked about the additional housing 1870 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,199 units as part of those plans. And and it 1871 01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:18,320 was quite impressive, right? how much 1872 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,719 more housing there would be with those. 1873 01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:21,360 So, 1874 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,280 >> 108,000 1875 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,320 new planned units in certified station 1876 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,320 areas around transit right now. 1877 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,159 >> Yeah. I mean, and that's just amazing, 1878 01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:34,239 right? For so many reasons. Anyway, like 1879 01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:36,880 we're kind of seeing this start to go in 1880 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,640 the right direction. I would say 1881 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,800 >> we just need to do a lot more of it. And 1882 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,239 that's so encouraging because I think 1883 01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:44,960 the station area plan as a collaborative 1884 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,440 effort with local jurisdiction has been 1885 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,800 a great success. Um and we got to a 1886 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,440 point of consensus that said yeah we can 1887 01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:56,480 do a lot of density in these locations 1888 01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:58,560 and most most jurisdictions were 1889 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,400 comfortable with that idea. Now there 1890 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,040 was some proddding uh of course but but 1891 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,080 it was not a a cradown in the sense of 1892 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,679 you just have to meet a minimum 1893 01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:09,280 threshold zoning across your whole city. 1894 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,600 It was and so I think it the question 1895 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,000 that that it gets me considering is well 1896 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,920 what's the correlary for infill at large 1897 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,840 and and what is the sort of 1898 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,280 collaborative uh consensus solution for 1899 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,640 that I don't know but we did it with the 1900 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,520 transit station area plans and so could 1901 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:35,110 we do it again? 1902 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:36,880 So, one of the questions I have is like 1903 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,760 when you said put four houses on a lot, 1904 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,280 one of the biggest problems that we have 1905 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,360 out in Magna is we uh have no parking 1906 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,440 and uh the Little Valley Gateway where 1907 01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:49,040 the new high school is where we had that 1908 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,040 incident two weeks ago where that 1909 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,560 14-year-old girl got killed up there. Um 1910 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,159 we're continuing to write lots of 1911 01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:58,719 parking tickets up there. So, I'm not 1912 01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:02,960 too wellliked up in that area. 1913 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,400 >> That's difficult. Yeah. 1914 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,040 Any other comments or 1915 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,840 no? Okay. All right. Thank you so much. 1916 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,280 That was interesting. You've given us a 1917 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,960 lot of good information 1918 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,280 >> and happy to chat afterwards or or sit 1919 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,400 down with with any of your cities or or 1920 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,840 talk to you about this more. Thank you. 1921 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,560 >> Okay. Thank you so much. Have 1922 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:24,880 >> Okay, 1923 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,080 >> Professor Ying, popped his hand up 1924 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:26,400 again. 1925 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,120 >> Oh, okay. Professor Yuing. 1926 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,400 >> Yeah. Thank you. Transit adjacent 1927 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,440 development for a planner actually has 1928 01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:38,239 sort of a negative connotation. 1929 01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:41,199 Transit oriented development has a very 1930 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:43,120 positive 1931 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,080 uh 1932 01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,840 kind of reputation among planners. you 1933 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,520 can you can have uh 1934 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,199 development near transit that doesn't in 1935 01:16:57,199 --> 01:17:01,440 essence generate transit demand. 1936 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:05,920 Um one one example is station park where 1937 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,400 it's it's adjacent to a frontr runner 1938 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,080 station but it's uh not oriented that 1939 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:16,320 way. Is is that something we are are 1940 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,880 wrestling with now? 1941 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,640 Compare that to fire clay where the uh 1942 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,960 transit station and the multifamily 1943 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,480 housing is together and one complements 1944 01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:31,360 the other. Uh could someone comment on 1945 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,550 that? 1946 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,800 Uh, Madam Chair, I I could note and and 1947 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,760 Reed, I think that's a perfect segue in 1948 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,520 a way to the next two items, which are 1949 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,760 the transit and land use transportation, 1950 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,440 pardon me, and land use connection 1951 01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:51,120 program and the certification of a of a 1952 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,280 plan in Midvil because that's the level 1953 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,679 of detail where you get into that, where 1954 01:17:55,679 --> 01:17:58,480 you get into this question of um what's 1955 01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:00,400 the land use mix, what's the, you know, 1956 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,800 the urban design, what's the place that 1957 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,120 we're going to create and how does that 1958 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,239 place then relate to transportation 1959 01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:10,560 infrastructure? I I don't think it's as 1960 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,960 much in the in sort of in the regional 1961 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,480 analysis 1962 01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:16,960 uh side or in the you know was choice 1963 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,239 map side but they these two things are 1964 01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:23,040 linked and so if you'll allow it I think 1965 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,040 it's a really great tea up actually into 1966 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,960 the next agenda item. 1967 01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,040 >> Sure. Sure. Thank you. 1968 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,239 >> Thank you. All right. Yes. The next 1969 01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:32,080 agenda item is transportation and land 1970 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,640 use connection program 2026 awarded 1971 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,320 projects. So part of what RGC does is 1972 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,360 helps is is help guide the WFRC's local 1973 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,520 technical assistance efforts. Once a 1974 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:44,960 year we announce the communities and 1975 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:45,920 projects that will receive 1976 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,840 transportation and land use connection 1977 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,360 TLC technical assistance um help. So 1978 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,840 I'll turn to Meg now to present this for 1979 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,159 us um the community and economic 1980 01:18:56,159 --> 01:18:58,560 development director for WFRC. Thank you 1981 01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,840 Meg. 1982 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,080 Thank you, mayor. The March meeting is 1983 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,600 an exciting one for the community and 1984 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,120 economic development team every year 1985 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,480 because we get to show you all of these 1986 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:07,920 new wonderful projects that we'll be 1987 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,840 working with your communities, your 1988 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,320 staff um to get done over the next um 1989 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,920 year or two. So, that these are our 1990 01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,920 transportation and land use connection 1991 01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,760 program awards for 2026. 1992 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,000 A little reminder for some and maybe new 1993 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,600 information for others about what is the 1994 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,280 transportation and land use connection. 1995 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,360 Ted talked about our various planning 1996 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,080 technical ex uh assistance activities. 1997 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,239 This is kind of our core program. So 1998 01:19:32,239 --> 01:19:34,800 this is an an a program that cities 1999 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,920 apply to annually. Um cities all over 2000 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,679 our region that includes our association 2001 01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:42,320 of governments area and our no area. So 2002 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:43,520 all of the cities that are part of the 2003 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,960 Wasach Front Regional Council are 2004 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,239 eligible. Projects can um always are 2005 01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:49,920 some connection between land use and 2006 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,000 transportation. Some have an eye toward 2007 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,840 economic development and they always 2008 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,640 meet um some subset of these these four 2009 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,800 goals. So the goals of T TLC are to 2010 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,640 maximize the value of investment in 2011 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,199 public infrastructure, enhance access to 2012 01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:05,760 opportunities, increase travel options 2013 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,600 to optimize mobility, and to create 2014 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,120 communities with opportunities to live, 2015 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:10,800 work, and play. And so this is what 2016 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,159 we're helping your communities with, 2017 01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:14,000 right? Um read to your comment, you 2018 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,600 know, it's it's one thing to say we want 2019 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,120 this many units around our transit 2020 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,440 station. It's another to go in and think 2021 01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:21,360 about how that's going to function, how 2022 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,840 those people are going to um park, get 2023 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,440 around, whether or not they have a car, 2024 01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:26,960 right? The kind of lifestyle they can 2025 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,560 have there at that transit station. So, 2026 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,000 we help communities to think through all 2027 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,159 of those details through projects within 2028 01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:33,840 um TLC as well as our station area 2029 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,520 planning work, right? Some some of these 2030 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,600 projects are near transit and many are 2031 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,239 not. And so, u there's considerations 2032 01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:41,840 either way, whether you have transit or 2033 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,640 not in um these plans that we do. This 2034 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,880 program is a partnership with UD do and 2035 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,360 UTA. And then some of our in-house work 2036 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,120 that we're able to provide assistance 2037 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,080 for your cities um with is funded by the 2038 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:55,280 governor's office of planning and 2039 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:56,719 budget. So we have lots of partners in 2040 01:20:56,719 --> 01:20:59,440 this work. 2041 01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:01,360 Ted showed this slide, but this is 2042 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,120 essentially what TLC can fund. We can 2043 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,679 fund planning design, getting a little 2044 01:21:05,679 --> 01:21:08,000 deeper into those details. Um somewhat 2045 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,159 like what Reed mentioned, ordinances. we 2046 01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:11,679 can fund development and zoning 2047 01:21:11,679 --> 01:21:13,360 ordinances in your community and 2048 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,199 implementation strategies beyond all of 2049 01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:17,199 this. What is it going to take to make 2050 01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:18,800 this neighborhood um start to come to 2051 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,640 life and tick? So, just get creative 2052 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,320 when you're thinking about what TLC 2053 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,480 might be able to help with um as you're 2054 01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:25,760 thinking about your planning and your 2055 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,880 needs in your city. 2056 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,239 This is what we have this year. So, 2057 01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:31,760 we're excited to announce 15 new 2058 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,400 projects. Um that's that's on the high 2059 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,199 end for us. That's really wonderful. um 2060 01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:39,040 in total project funds. That's just 2061 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,679 under two million. We have 1.78 million 2062 01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:44,239 in um project funds this year being 2063 01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:46,320 awarded. Uh most of that comes from the 2064 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,800 TLC program and 300,000 of that is local 2065 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,480 match from your cities. So that helps 2066 01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:53,040 the money go a lot um further when we 2067 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,639 have some match from your communities. 2068 01:21:54,639 --> 01:21:57,040 Um but we hope that this is assistance 2069 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,280 that's welcomed by everybody. I'm 2070 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,960 showing a little screenshot of our map 2071 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,320 up here. Um, mostly to say that I'm 2072 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,520 going to go through these projects 2073 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,360 really quickly, but all of the 2074 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,040 information about them, descriptions of 2075 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,800 them, the the funding amounts, all of 2076 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,480 that is going to be available in that 2077 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:14,239 map along with all of the other projects 2078 01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:16,719 we've ever funded. So, um, if you are 2079 01:22:16,719 --> 01:22:18,320 wondering if your community has ever 2080 01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,960 been supported by TLC, open up that map, 2081 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,320 put your city's name in, and you'll see 2082 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:23,440 everything that your city has ever 2083 01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:25,360 worked on with us. Um, and maybe it'll 2084 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:26,960 generate some ideas for um, some 2085 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:31,270 follow-up planning as well. 2086 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,120 Maybe we can drop a link to that map in 2087 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,000 the chat if someone's on Zoom. Okay, 2088 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,360 here are the projects we funded this 2089 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:38,800 year in Salt Lake County. There are 2090 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,520 seven. The Copperton project is multiple 2091 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,760 small area plans throughout Copperton, 2092 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,280 kind of looking at the city's land use 2093 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:46,880 as a whole and then zooming in on some 2094 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,560 specific areas to do some more detailed 2095 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,000 planning. 2096 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,360 the Draper transportation master plan in 2097 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,280 Holiday. We're funding a citywide zoning 2098 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,679 ordinance as well as a deep dive in 2099 01:22:57,679 --> 01:23:00,080 their northwest commercial district area 2100 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,760 um to kind of think through what that 2101 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,440 area should become prior to writing the 2102 01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:06,239 ordinance for it. In Magna, we're 2103 01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:08,960 funding a 2011 corridor research park 2104 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,120 and lifestyle center plan for a small 2105 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,120 area in Magna. 2106 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,040 In Midvale, a general plan land use 2107 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,639 amendment that will actually be done in 2108 01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:18,000 house by our staff. So we'll get to work 2109 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,560 really closely with Midvail this year. 2110 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,400 In Mil Creek, a Parley's trail fe 2111 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,159 feasibility study. This is to connect 2112 01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:25,760 kind of the urban portion of Mil Creek 2113 01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,719 across 215, sorry, um Parley's across 2114 01:23:28,719 --> 01:23:30,320 215. 2115 01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,760 And then in the town of Ela, we're 2116 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:35,040 funding their general plan update. 2117 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,960 In Davis and Weber counties, we have the 2118 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,880 Davis County Regional Trails Wayfinding 2119 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,960 Signage Plan. So Davis County will work 2120 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,480 with all the communities in Davis to try 2121 01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:45,280 to think through how can um we help 2122 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,600 bicycle and pedestrian users of those 2123 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,040 that trail system get around and know 2124 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,520 where they're going. Um Far West general 2125 01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,560 plan in Ogden, the Five Points area 2126 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,320 master plan. Another deep dive into a 2127 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,040 neighborhood in Ogden. In Pleasant View, 2128 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,440 a general plan in West Haven, 2129 01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:02,880 transportation master plan, kind of 2130 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,239 phase two of some of the planning work 2131 01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:06,320 we're doing with West Haven right now. 2132 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,000 And then in Ogden Valley, a new 2133 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,400 community in our region, uh general 2134 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,560 plan, transportation plan, zoning road 2135 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,800 map, recently incorporated city, right? 2136 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,320 So, lots of work to do there in planning 2137 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,960 and we're happy to support. 2138 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,639 And then this year, we have a couple of 2139 01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:22,159 projects in Tilla County. So, that 2140 01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:24,080 includes the Grantsville general plan 2141 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,159 and a general plan for Rush Valley along 2142 01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:28,800 with some code work there, too. So, 2143 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,679 there's the 15 projects. It's like um 2144 01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:33,760 it's like a party for us when we get all 2145 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,440 this this wonderful new work to work 2146 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:37,679 with you on. Um go look at that map. 2147 01:24:37,679 --> 01:24:38,960 Take a look if you have questions about 2148 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,120 these projects. Um let us know. Some of 2149 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,120 these uh these applications started last 2150 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,600 year, right? So you may be um a new 2151 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,080 mayor with a a new fun project in your 2152 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,159 lap. Um your staff is all wonderful and 2153 01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:52,560 they know about these awards. Um but 2154 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:53,760 give us a call if you want to talk 2155 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,159 through any of these 2156 01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:58,239 and I'm happy to take any questions if 2157 01:24:58,239 --> 01:24:59,120 there are any. 2158 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,880 >> Thank you. That's so exciting. I hope 2159 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,120 everybody is super excited. Quite a few 2160 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,719 projects and I know how much work is 2161 01:25:04,719 --> 01:25:06,159 involved in just preparing the 2162 01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:08,239 application for the project. So, thank 2163 01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:09,199 you. 2164 01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:10,719 >> Congratulations. Did you have anything? 2165 01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:12,800 >> And I want to say thank you very much. 2166 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,280 Very impressive. 2167 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,120 Exciting. 2168 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,400 >> Madam Chair, question. 2169 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:18,880 >> Yes. 2170 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,320 >> Um, where does the money come from 2171 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:21,280 originally? 2172 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,960 >> Sure. So, this is uh it's a little bit 2173 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,960 of a mixed pot. A lot of the funds are 2174 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,880 surface transportation planning dollars. 2175 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,239 We call it an ounce of prevention. And 2176 01:25:28,239 --> 01:25:29,920 it's a really small carve out of that 2177 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,880 money um that hopefully allows 2178 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:33,360 >> Excuse me. 2179 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:34,800 >> That's a federal bot. Keep going. 2180 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,800 >> Yes. Uh that allows for some better 2181 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,800 investment going forward. In addition, 2182 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,719 our partners UTA and UD do put some 2183 01:25:40,719 --> 01:25:43,920 money into this program, too. 2184 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,040 >> Great question. Local match, 2185 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,880 >> sorry, there's local match money in each 2186 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,880 project. Yeah, I'll just note um we are 2187 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,600 we're so happy to be able to provide 2188 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,639 this type of assistance to all of our 2189 01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:01,840 communities and I think I mean if not 2190 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,719 every almost every community in the WFRC 2191 01:26:04,719 --> 01:26:07,520 region has received assistance through 2192 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,760 this program, you know, over the years 2193 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,679 that that we've been doing it. And I'm 2194 01:26:11,679 --> 01:26:13,760 just I can't help but think I'm mindful 2195 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,679 of what uh Jason and Tai presented and 2196 01:26:17,679 --> 01:26:20,480 me emphasized this this balance that we 2197 01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:23,840 need to do um a mix of green field 2198 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,920 development, suburban infill and transit 2199 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,360 oriented development. And as you look at 2200 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,560 that list that Meg just went through, 2201 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,199 all of those are represented in there, 2202 01:26:33,199 --> 01:26:36,080 right? from the new city of Ogden Valley 2203 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,159 to the you know the rapid development 2204 01:26:38,159 --> 01:26:40,000 mayor that we noted before that 2205 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,000 Grantsville uh is having to some um you 2206 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,400 know more focus around transit stations. 2207 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,480 We're we're trying to help you figure 2208 01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:51,360 these things out. Uh and the last thing 2209 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:55,440 I'll say is that in none of this work do 2210 01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:57,520 Meg and Byron and the team and the 2211 01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,320 consultants that we engage we never come 2212 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,280 in and say here's what you should do. We 2213 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,440 are not trying to tell you how to 2214 01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:08,000 develop in your communities. Right, 2215 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,040 Mayor? You know Magna better than any of 2216 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,520 us. And so you you identify the 2217 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,040 challenges that you're facing and we 2218 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,520 want to help you with resources and 2219 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,520 technical assistance to figure out the 2220 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,040 best path forward and we're just 2221 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,159 thrilled to be able to do it. 2222 01:27:24,159 --> 01:27:25,600 >> Well, and I I'm glad you added that 2223 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:26,800 because I wanted to make sure anyone 2224 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,199 who's newer or listening, these are asks 2225 01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:30,880 from these cities, these communities. 2226 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,800 This is not any organization coming in 2227 01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,560 and saying this is what you need to do 2228 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,560 or we expect you to do. They're wanting 2229 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,320 the help and they're able to get this 2230 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,480 assistance which is huge because it's 2231 01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:42,080 expensive to plan for these things. So 2232 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,679 thank you. 2233 01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:46,560 >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you Meg. All 2234 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,560 right. Stationary plan certification of 2235 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,880 Midville Fashion Place West. We'll now 2236 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:52,719 consider certification of a request for 2237 01:27:52,719 --> 01:27:54,719 the station area in Midville in 2238 01:27:54,719 --> 01:27:56,000 accordance with the station area 2239 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,920 planning program. We have the 2240 01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,679 development director Adam Olsen from 2241 01:27:59,679 --> 01:28:01,440 Midville here, but I'm going to first 2242 01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:05,440 turn to Byron Head with WF WFRC to 2243 01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:06,880 introduce this item. Thanks, Byron. 2244 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:07,199 >> Great. 2245 01:28:07,199 --> 01:28:09,280 >> Thank you, mayor. Uh, good a or good 2246 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,520 morning, everyone. Um, I apologize my 2247 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,120 slides a little sparse today. The last 2248 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,719 couple times it's been a laundry list of 2249 01:28:14,719 --> 01:28:17,040 cities and today we only have one, but 2250 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,719 um, yeah, station area planning. Um, 2251 01:28:20,719 --> 01:28:22,480 you're all likely familiar with this. 2252 01:28:22,480 --> 01:28:23,679 It's been around for a few years now, 2253 01:28:23,679 --> 01:28:25,520 but for the benefit of our newer 2254 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,960 members, I'll provide a brief um summary 2255 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:30,960 of what the requirements are. These are 2256 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,440 for the areas that are a half mile 2257 01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:35,120 around a rail station or a quarter mile 2258 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,239 around a BRT station that need to uh 2259 01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:39,520 create a planning document that 2260 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,280 addresses housing access to 2261 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,040 opportunities, transportation options, 2262 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,280 and environmental conditions. Uh 2263 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,040 basically as we've been talking about 2264 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,199 all morning here, colllocating housing 2265 01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:50,960 and services and opportunities with our 2266 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,040 transit infrastructure. 2267 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:54,639 Um 2268 01:28:54,639 --> 01:28:57,600 to date, we've certified between us and 2269 01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:58,880 um Mountainland Association of 2270 01:28:58,880 --> 01:28:59,840 Governments to the South, we've 2271 01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:04,239 certified 98 of the 127 plans that uh 2272 01:29:04,239 --> 01:29:06,800 are required by the legislation. We've 2273 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,280 got one more to consider today. Uh this 2274 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,520 is for the Midvail portion of the 2275 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,600 Fashion Place West station area. The 2276 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,920 station is actually in Murray. Um, but 2277 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,159 the city has done a joint project with 2278 01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:20,400 Murray to create a plan for the whole 2279 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,639 area. Murray had their portion of the 2280 01:29:22,639 --> 01:29:25,760 plan uh certified at this uh at our at 2281 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,840 our council back in January. And so now 2282 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,320 Midvail is uh seeking their 2283 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,840 certification. 2284 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,280 Um and as Andrew mentioned earlier, uh 2285 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,280 and actually yeah, this number is uh out 2286 01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,600 of date. um certified plans would now 2287 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,480 support over 108,000 homes in these 2288 01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:44,480 stationaries all across the Wasatch 2289 01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:46,880 front. Um so we're excited to have hit 2290 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,120 that threshold over uh getting to six 2291 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,560 digits. Um so yeah about the plan a 2292 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,880 little bit. Uh this is the whole station 2293 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,760 area uh in most predominantly in Murray. 2294 01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,440 The only portion that is in Midvail is 2295 01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:02,320 this little piece in the the bottom kind 2296 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,440 of center there. Um but it is 2297 01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:06,960 interesting that this is almost an 2298 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,000 extension of the um Midville Fort Union 2299 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,480 Station which the city did a plan for a 2300 01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:14,159 couple years ago and has already been 2301 01:30:14,159 --> 01:30:20,239 certified by this uh body. Um and that 2302 01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:22,080 plan that Midvil did, you know, was 2303 01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,040 focused on housing. And here in the the 2304 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,440 Murray uh or sorry the Fashion Place 2305 01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:30,239 West station area, again, this is an 2306 01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:31,920 area that they're focusing on jobs and 2307 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,400 housing balance. Uh and then also the 2308 01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,639 city is finishing up a uh Porter 2309 01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:40,159 Rockwell Trail alignment um extension 2310 01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:42,800 alignment study. And so this plan will 2311 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,360 also accommodate whatever that eventual 2312 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,920 alignment will be to bring the trail up 2313 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,480 uh from Sandy along presumably along the 2314 01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:53,600 tracks line. Um, so that's all I have. 2315 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,080 U, Adam is here if you would like to 2316 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,400 come up and provide a comment or two 2317 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,480 about the the planning process and the 2318 01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:04,629 outcomes. 2319 01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:06,639 » Uh, thank you for having me here. I just 2320 01:31:06,639 --> 01:31:08,800 wanted to say on behalf of Midville, our 2321 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,000 mayor and council, uh, thank you to WFRC 2322 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,600 for all of the support that we've 2323 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,320 received um, through the years. we have 2324 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,639 really we really appreciate working with 2325 01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:20,560 you and look forward to working with you 2326 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,400 even more um in the future. So that said 2327 01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,239 um our council has been very supportive 2328 01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:29,120 of these station area plans. Uh we also 2329 01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,199 partnered with West Jordan City a few 2330 01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:33,520 years ago for the um Bingham Junction 2331 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,760 Station. Uh that station and the 2332 01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,360 historic gardener station kind of 2333 01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,159 overlap and so uh we partnered with West 2334 01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:43,040 Jordan to do a study for both of those. 2335 01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,920 Um, we also have the Fort Union station 2336 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,920 which is on the screen here and then we 2337 01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,360 also have our center street station 2338 01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:51,199 which is a little further south that 2339 01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:53,600 overlaps a little with uh the Fort Union 2340 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,199 and then the small portion of the 2341 01:31:55,199 --> 01:31:57,360 fashion place west. Uh, one of the 2342 01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,440 things that our council has done since 2343 01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:01,840 we've um approved or adopted these 2344 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,360 station area plans is we've gone through 2345 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,920 and we've amended our zoning um to 2346 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,920 provide incentives for development 2347 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,520 within um these uh transit adjacent 2348 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,600 areas, if you will. Uh one of the major 2349 01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,760 things the council did was they did uh 2350 01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,800 designate some areas that um rather than 2351 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,800 have a cap of density, they basically uh 2352 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,360 raised the cap on that to say that um 2353 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:28,000 the density that you can have there is 2354 01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,360 basically what um what it can support. 2355 01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,120 Um we've also lowered some parking 2356 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:37,040 requirements. So between basically uh 2357 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:38,960 having an almost unlimited density if 2358 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,639 you will and lower parking requirements, 2359 01:32:40,639 --> 01:32:44,239 we're hoping that um you know 2360 01:32:44,239 --> 01:32:46,719 development is spurred in these areas 2361 01:32:46,719 --> 01:32:48,719 and especially in the center street 2362 01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:51,280 area. Uh we've had some interest as of 2363 01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,280 late and so I just want to say that the 2364 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,199 station area plans we feel are doing 2365 01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:57,520 what they're intended to do. Uh they are 2366 01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,760 spurring those discussions. The council 2367 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,520 is very supportive of density within 2368 01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,679 these areas and we're looking forward to 2369 01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:07,040 what we hope is the first um development 2370 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:10,080 to um occur in the station just south of 2371 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,000 this Fort Union one at Center Street. So 2372 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:16,950 again, thank you. 2373 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:17,679 » Thank you. 2374 01:33:17,679 --> 01:33:24,960 >> Thanks, Adam. All right. Um so we have a suggested motion um for for the 2375 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,280 committee here um basically recommending 2376 01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,280 certification of this to the council 2377 01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,239 which will meet next week. Um staff has 2378 01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:34,719 reviewed the plan and uh consulted with 2379 01:33:34,719 --> 01:33:37,440 UTA and are supportive of certification. 2380 01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,360 Um so I'll now turn it back to the chair 2381 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:40,400 for any discussion. 2382 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:41,679 >> Thank you. Would someone like to make a 2383 01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:44,480 motion to approve this or to recommend 2384 01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:46,639 this? I'll move. 2385 01:33:46,639 --> 01:33:48,480 >> Okay. Thank you, mayor. Uh do we have a 2386 01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:50,400 second? 2387 01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:51,199 I'll second. 2388 01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:54,239 >> Okay. Thank you. All in favor? I. Any 2389 01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:56,719 opposed? Okay. Thank you. That will be 2390 01:33:56,719 --> 01:33:58,880 recommended to the board. Appreciate 2391 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:03,189 your presentation on that. 2392 01:34:03,199 --> 01:34:07,360 » All right, Andrew. Legislative update. 2393 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,639 >> Mayor, um I'm thinking that in the 2394 01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:14,800 interest of time, I won't do a full 2395 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,159 legislative update. Um, oh, Mayor 2396 01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:22,719 Overson is upset about that. Um, oh, uh, 2397 01:34:22,719 --> 01:34:24,960 let me make a just a few brief comments. 2398 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,679 A lot happened. More bills introduced 2399 01:34:27,679 --> 01:34:29,840 this past session than any previous 2400 01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,320 year. Uh, former Representative Benian 2401 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,080 knows that. Maybe you were glad to not 2402 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:41,520 be part of that. Um, uh, but, uh, you, uh, somebody once a long time ago 2403 01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,600 said, you don't judge a legislature, a 2404 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:44,719 legislative session by what's 2405 01:34:44,719 --> 01:34:46,239 introduced. you judge it by what's 2406 01:34:46,239 --> 01:34:49,440 passed. Um, and I think a lot of 2407 01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:51,760 positive things happened this session 2408 01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:55,040 and put another way, a lot of um, 2409 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,600 potentially problematic things did not 2410 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,560 pass. Okay. And I'm looking at Mayor 2411 01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:01,920 Bradshaw. I'm going to put her on the 2412 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:03,600 spot and turn to her in just a moment 2413 01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,239 here. There were notable pieces of 2414 01:35:06,239 --> 01:35:09,120 legislation in transportation, in 2415 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,719 housing, in economic development. We at 2416 01:35:12,719 --> 01:35:16,480 WFRC have provided uh a a lot of 2417 01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:18,719 information to you. We will send that 2418 01:35:18,719 --> 01:35:20,800 out to you again in the followup to this 2419 01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,679 meeting. Um Mir Oh, and Miranda Jones 2420 01:35:23,679 --> 01:35:28,560 Cox, our government affairs manager, is not here today. She's taking a little 2421 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,880 bit of very welldeserved and well needed 2422 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:34,080 time. Uh uh next week at our full 2423 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,520 council meeting, which is Thursday 2424 01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,520 afternoon, we will do a legislative 2425 01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,400 update. We've produced this uh 2426 01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,080 legislative summary card that you all 2427 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,560 have around the table here. We've 2428 01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:48,239 produced a very thorough full 2429 01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:51,040 legislative wrapup that's all we've sent 2430 01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,040 out and is also on our website so you 2431 01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,320 can dig in as much as you want about the 2432 01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,320 governance changes for UTA and the 2433 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,120 transit funding um modifications or 2434 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,000 increases uh the funding restorations 2435 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,480 for the local administrative advisor 2436 01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:10,960 program. uh the reductions or transfers 2437 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,400 in funding from transportation 2438 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,440 to support uh infrastructure that helps 2439 01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:20,400 housing. That's a notable funding 2440 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,159 shifted away from UD do 2441 01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:26,239 fund grant or loans and grants for 2442 01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:28,080 infrastructure. Funding shifted away 2443 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,360 from some of the local option 2444 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,120 transportation sales taxes in Salt Lake 2445 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,000 County to fund uh infrastructure to 2446 01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,239 unlock housing. So, how do you feel 2447 01:36:36,239 --> 01:36:38,320 about that? It's an interesting uh 2448 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,239 interesting dynamic, but lots and lots 2449 01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:42,719 of bills um that I won't go into now 2450 01:36:42,719 --> 01:36:44,400 unless anybody wants to ask me about 2451 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,480 something in particular. Having said all 2452 01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:49,199 that, uh Mayor Bradshaw, League 2453 01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:51,360 President Bradshaw, government affairs 2454 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,280 professional Bradshaw, would you like to 2455 01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:54,960 offer any comments wearing any of your 2456 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,239 hats? 2457 01:36:56,239 --> 01:37:00,320 >> Sure, Andrew. U this this was a a very 2458 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,440 robust legislative session. Um it so 2459 01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:04,800 many bills were introduced and I think 2460 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,320 you're right to guide us to only judge 2461 01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:07,760 it on what passed because there were 2462 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:09,520 some doozies introduced. 2463 01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,159 >> Um 2464 01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:14,800 I really enjoy that I get to have the uh 2465 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,679 interaction from my ULCT role with other 2466 01:37:17,679 --> 01:37:18,880 groups. I've gotten to spend a lot of 2467 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:24,560 time uh with with Andrew this year and in sessions past. Um, I would maybe 2468 01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,199 highlight just a couple bills that that 2469 01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:29,920 I'm particularly um proud of and proud 2470 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,800 of when the process does the process the 2471 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,440 way we could be proud of instead of the 2472 01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:36,639 opposite when we're not proud of the 2473 01:37:36,639 --> 01:37:40,560 process. Um, HB425, this is the tough 2474 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,880 bill. This is Karen Peterson who worked 2475 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,480 for three straight sessions. 2476 01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:46,560 >> Transportation utility fee. 2477 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,600 >> Yes. Sorry, should have uh said the 2478 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,360 whole name, not just the acronym. three 2479 01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,280 whole sessions to then have that go 2480 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,719 through uh unanimously. Um I think this 2481 01:37:56,719 --> 01:37:59,840 is a good and transparent process and 2482 01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,639 codify is an important court win and is 2483 01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:05,360 important for uh a lot of cities as we 2484 01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,239 face um increased costs uh for 2485 01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:11,760 transportation needs. Um the next one I 2486 01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:13,600 would mention 492. We've already talked 2487 01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,080 about this one a little bit in earlier 2488 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:20,560 presentations. Um, this bill, it's 2489 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,320 important as a standalone piece of 2490 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,159 legislation because of the funding it 2491 01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:26,880 brings and unlocking so many 2492 01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,360 opportunities uh for different housing 2493 01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,719 projects. Um, 2494 01:38:32,719 --> 01:38:34,400 but frankly, it was also important for 2495 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,400 helping us defeat many many bad pieces 2496 01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,639 of legislation um that would have 2497 01:38:38,639 --> 01:38:42,639 attacked and and eroded city's um land 2498 01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:46,400 use authority. Uh often, um when 2499 01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,960 legislators hear frustrations in the in 2500 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,239 the housing space, um their their first 2501 01:38:52,239 --> 01:38:54,960 idea is to to go in and try and attack 2502 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,119 some land use authority that that cities 2503 01:38:57,119 --> 01:38:59,440 or counties have instead of taking the 2504 01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:01,040 time to understand kind of the 2505 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,040 underpinnings of how we how we get to 2506 01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,199 building projects and all of the stuff 2507 01:39:05,199 --> 01:39:06,719 that you don't see under the ground that 2508 01:39:06,719 --> 01:39:09,679 makes those projects possible. So, um, 2509 01:39:09,679 --> 01:39:11,679 the work that Representative Roberts was 2510 01:39:11,679 --> 01:39:14,800 willing to do on this bill, um, thanks 2511 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,760 to having served on a city council, uh, 2512 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,800 and swinging big for this money and then 2513 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,719 the partnership from from many different 2514 01:39:22,719 --> 01:39:24,880 groups, this group along with the 2515 01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:27,440 league, um, helped us then hold that up 2516 01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:31,760 as, as advances great, um, housing and 2517 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,080 infrastructure policy, uh, while 2518 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,360 knocking down some of the really bad 2519 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,719 ideas. Um, and then the last one, um, 2520 01:39:38,719 --> 01:39:41,360 would would probably just be SB 242. 2521 01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:44,000 That's Senator Harper. And this is the, 2522 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,840 um, uh, sorry, that may not be the one I 2523 01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,960 wanted. The UTA one. No, that was 242. 2524 01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:52,239 197. 2525 01:39:52,239 --> 01:39:57,199 >> Um, I think that one is going, uh, UTA 2526 01:39:57,199 --> 01:39:58,960 3.0 I know is going to be an interesting 2527 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:00,400 animal that I look forward to 2528 01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:01,920 understanding 2529 01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,800 um more and ensuring that it's um 2530 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,760 working uh with all of us to to do these 2531 01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,520 important connections. So, those are 2532 01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:12,800 three bills from uh just a a number of 2533 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,480 different bills that I thought were were 2534 01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:16,480 particularly important and really took a 2535 01:40:16,480 --> 01:40:19,840 lot of um dedicated groups working 2536 01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:21,440 together to advance all the way through 2537 01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:24,400 the the gauntlet that is the 45day Utah 2538 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,080 session. 2539 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,320 Mayor, thank you. Mayor, do you want to 2540 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:30,000 add anything about the session? I just 2541 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,360 want to spend a lot of time there. 2542 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,920 >> Well, just my appreciation. It takes I 2543 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,239 had no idea how involved these bills are 2544 01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:38,159 and and how many people it takes on your 2545 01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:40,159 weekly your weekly meetings and updates 2546 01:40:40,159 --> 01:40:42,639 were so helpful. I super appreciate Kate 2547 01:40:42,639 --> 01:40:45,520 and the ULC team. They're fantastic. The 2548 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,280 engagement from the mayors for the LPC 2549 01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:48,800 meetings and the city council members. I 2550 01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,000 mean, it just takes everybody to make 2551 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,360 everything happen. So, I'm very grateful 2552 01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:52,639 for that. So, thank you. 2553 01:40:52,639 --> 01:40:56,080 >> Mayor, quick uh quick one. I was I had 2554 01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,159 the pleasure of attending the Urban Land 2555 01:40:58,159 --> 01:41:02,080 Institutees um legislative 2556 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:03,760 summary 2557 01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,000 meeting earlier this week and partly I 2558 01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,639 just want everybody to know that this 2559 01:41:08,639 --> 01:41:11,040 group is predominantly local government 2560 01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,600 and sort of transportation agency but we 2561 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,679 do have some private sector and 2562 01:41:15,679 --> 01:41:18,639 nonprofit people around the table and I 2563 01:41:18,639 --> 01:41:21,679 just wanted to note the Kristen and her 2564 01:41:21,679 --> 01:41:24,320 role with the urban land institute and 2565 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,400 you know love having you here and it's 2566 01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,320 an interesting sort of different story 2567 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:33,280 you get when you hear from different groups and um wanted to just 2568 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,520 highlight uh highlight that aspect about 2569 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:36,480 our committee 2570 01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:39,040 >> and to that agreed and to that point we 2571 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:42,960 partner a lot with the private sector um 2572 01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,440 uh not least of which the the uh Salt 2573 01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:47,920 Lake or Utah Chamber of Commerce who 2574 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:49,760 were really in is really involved up at 2575 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,320 the up at the capital and of course uh 2576 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,639 the counties in Utah Association of 2577 01:41:54,639 --> 01:41:57,119 Counties. So it um it takes a real uh 2578 01:41:57,119 --> 01:42:00,800 team. Mar let me take one minute to look 2579 01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,560 at the at what's happening in Washington 2580 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:03,119 DC. 2581 01:42:03,119 --> 01:42:03,600 >> Yes. 2582 01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,639 >> Okay. When it comes to uh transportation 2583 01:42:06,639 --> 01:42:08,639 related issues, 2584 01:42:08,639 --> 01:42:11,199 uh I'm tempted to say there's a lot 2585 01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:13,199 happening and there's also not very much 2586 01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:15,440 happening at the same time. What I mean 2587 01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:18,639 by that is that uh federal 2588 01:42:18,639 --> 01:42:22,639 transportation policy and funding is 2589 01:42:22,639 --> 01:42:24,719 developed through what's called a 2590 01:42:24,719 --> 01:42:27,520 surface transportation authorization 2591 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,880 bill. And that happens roughly every 5 2592 01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,119 years. The current bill, the 2593 01:42:33,119 --> 01:42:35,280 infrastructure investment and jobs act, 2594 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,480 expires this year, September 30th of 2595 01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:40,000 2026. 2596 01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,560 Um, I was just in DC for the last few 2597 01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,239 days, not for the National League of 2598 01:42:44,239 --> 01:42:47,520 Cities, uh, conference, but for the 2599 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,119 Association of Metropolitan Planning 2600 01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:50,960 Organizations Policy Committee, and 2601 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:55,840 spent time on the Hill, etc. And here's the short story. Uh there's a lot 2602 01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:56,960 of work happening on the next 2603 01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:01,040 reauthorization bill, but uh it is less 2604 01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:03,520 likely to happen actually happen this 2605 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,080 year by the time of the expiration than 2606 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,600 we might have thought earlier than are 2607 01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,920 the intentions of Congress. It's more 2608 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,080 likely to get the can will be kicked 2609 01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:15,119 down the road. There'll be a a temporary 2610 01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:16,880 extension which means the policy and 2611 01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,440 funding levels would stay in place. uh 2612 01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:21,760 as we look ahead there's so much to say 2613 01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,679 there but I'm just going to say we're we 2614 01:43:23,679 --> 01:43:26,400 all WFRC all of our transportation 2615 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,960 partners the cities and the counties we 2616 01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,800 come together as Utons identify shared 2617 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,679 principles for federal transportation 2618 01:43:35,679 --> 01:43:38,239 policy and funding and then policy 2619 01:43:38,239 --> 01:43:41,760 priorities and we do um it's actually 2620 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,400 fair to say that we Utah is known around 2621 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,199 the nation for being a model of 2622 01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:49,280 collaboration we have Utah's unified 2623 01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,679 transportation plan and also the fact 2624 01:43:51,679 --> 01:43:53,520 that we work together to develop shared 2625 01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,600 principles for what we want and our 2626 01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,000 delegation so wellplaced. They're 2627 01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:59,920 involved in the key committees and they 2628 01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:02,000 are so appreciative of the way that we 2629 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,080 do this that we work together. We don't 2630 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,159 bring them something that another Utah 2631 01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:07,520 stakeholder says, "Wait, we don't like 2632 01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,800 that we we um we all row in the same uh 2633 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:14,239 direction." I do last thing I'll say. I 2634 01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:16,000 do have one really cool thing to report 2635 01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,280 to you. Um, one of the things that came 2636 01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:20,880 out of the infrastructure investment and 2637 01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,520 jobs act is lots and lots of grant 2638 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:27,280 programs, discretionary grant programs. 2639 01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,679 And those of you that pay attention to 2640 01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:32,000 these things will know that many grants 2641 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,320 that were awarded 2642 01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:37,440 uh in previous years but had not 2643 01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:39,040 actually moved forward yet. Like they 2644 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,480 make the awards and then there's a 2645 01:44:40,480 --> 01:44:42,159 extended process for entering into 2646 01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:44,800 contracts, grant agreements, etc. 2647 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:46,960 When the um presidential administration 2648 01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,560 turned over, US DOT said, "Time out. 2649 01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:54,800 We're pausing on many of those grants um 2650 01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,480 to review them." Some got cancelled. Uh 2651 01:44:58,480 --> 01:45:01,040 an $87 million 2652 01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:05,280 uh grant um for uh reconnecting um under 2653 01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,840 the uh expressway in St. George, 2654 01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:09,840 reconnecting communities actually got 2655 01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,920 cancelled. Um, one that was awarded 2656 01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:16,560 earlier and that we have been waiting on 2657 01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:21,440 uh is a $25 million grant from the for 2658 01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:25,119 first last mile improvements around our 2659 01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:28,000 region. So, this is making enhancements 2660 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,280 around transit stations uh to make this 2661 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,320 the sidewalks more safer, easier points 2662 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:35,679 of connection so that people have the 2663 01:45:35,679 --> 01:45:37,520 ability to get to the transit station 2664 01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,280 and then use it. We were awarded 2665 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,040 collectively. This was UD do was the 2666 01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:42,400 applicant. We all worked on this 2667 01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,840 together. We were awarded this. Gosh, 2668 01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,239 where's Hugh? Uh, a while ago, over a 2669 01:45:48,239 --> 01:45:50,639 year ago, we were awarded this funding. 2670 01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:52,960 Um, two years ago, two years ago, and 2671 01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:54,719 then it was paused and we were afraid 2672 01:45:54,719 --> 01:45:57,679 that this $25 million grant was going to 2673 01:45:57,679 --> 01:46:00,080 be rescended. We just got word yesterday 2674 01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,320 that we're back in action and this is 2675 01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,560 moving forward. We've been clear to 2676 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,800 proceed and and develop the grant 2677 01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,400 agreement. So, that is going to move 2678 01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,400 forward. And I it's like I don't know 2679 01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,400 it's like Christmas again. Like we were 2680 01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,320 super excited when we when the grant was 2681 01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,080 award was announced and then we felt 2682 01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:17,280 like it wasn't going to happen and now 2683 01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,199 we get to unwrap the president again. So 2684 01:46:19,199 --> 01:46:20,880 we're really we're really excited. So 2685 01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:22,719 that's going to move forward. Thank you. 2686 01:46:22,719 --> 01:46:24,000 >> Thank you. Thank you. That's fantastic. 2687 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,080 I know we are short on time but in um 2688 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,560 Commissioner Kamalu has a comment. 2689 01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,159 >> Actually this is the other other 2690 01:46:30,159 --> 01:46:33,040 business. Davis County's general plan 2691 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,639 update openhouse is this evening. So, 2692 01:46:36,639 --> 01:46:38,719 for those who live and work and have 2693 01:46:38,719 --> 01:46:41,679 interest in in this update, um there's 2694 01:46:41,679 --> 01:46:44,719 very little unincorporated county left 2695 01:46:44,719 --> 01:46:47,360 in Davis County, um just keep that in 2696 01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:51,280 mind. And it um that's because as 2697 01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,199 development occurs, it is incorporated 2698 01:46:53,199 --> 01:46:55,280 into our cities. Nonetheless, this 2699 01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:59,440 general plan update, as you all know, it tends to be a big deal. So, an open 2700 01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:03,440 house for all invited from 5:30 to 7 in 2701 01:47:03,440 --> 01:47:05,840 the county building in um on the main 2702 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:09,119 level down in an auditorium room. So, 2703 01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:11,920 that is tonight. All are welcome. 2704 01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,760 >> Thank you, Commissioner. All right. We 2705 01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,280 have a webinar that was mentioned May 2706 01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,040 26th, so participate in that if you'd 2707 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,080 like to. And then 2708 01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,239 >> we'll send details out on that in the 2709 01:47:20,239 --> 01:47:21,040 follow-up email. 2710 01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:22,159 >> Okay. Thank you. And then the next 2711 01:47:22,159 --> 01:47:24,800 meeting is May 21st, and we just need a 2712 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:26,639 motion to adjurnn. 2713 01:47:26,639 --> 01:47:28,480 >> All right. All in favor? 2714 01:47:28,480 --> 01:47:30,560 >> Okay. Thank you. 2715 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,910 >> Thanks everybody. 2716 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:37,679 » Thank you. How are you doing?