[0:02] Welcome everyone. We are going to get [0:04] started. [0:11] Okay, we are recording and we are [0:13] getting ready to start. Thank you so [0:15] much for being here. Welcome to the [0:16] meeting of the Wasat Front Regional [0:18] Council. Today is Thursday, May 28th and [0:21] we welcome all of you. My name is Don [0:24] Ramsey and I have the privilege of [0:26] serving as chair of the regional council [0:28] uh right now and we want to make sure [0:30] everyone knows who all is here. I [0:32] appreciate the chance to serve with all [0:33] of you. Let's do introductions. We'll go [0:35] around the table starting right here [0:37] with Commissioner Stevenson and then [0:39] we'll go to the rest of the room and [0:40] then I'm [0:41] >> Bob Stevenson. [0:46] » Shall I add to what he said? [laughter] [0:49] my colleague um Loren Kamalu only I'm [0:52] here not representing Davis County I [0:54] represent Utah Association of Counties [0:58] >> Joy Petro Leighton City [1:02] » J Fox UTA [1:04] >> um Beth Hull Brook UTA [1:07] >> good afternoon Laura Hansen uh [1:09] governor's office [1:12] >> Ariel DeFay Utah House of [1:14] Representatives [1:17] >> Rosie Hernandez I'm part of the admin [1:19] team at WFRC. [1:21] >> Jordan Chandler, also part of the admin [1:23] team at WFRC. [1:26] >> Vincent, Boxelder County, [1:30] >> Kate Bradshaw, Battlefield City. [1:33] >> Jefferson, UTA, [1:36] >> Ted Nolton, deputy director, WFRC. [1:38] >> Carlton Christensen with the Utah [1:40] Transit Authority. [1:42] >> Tish Baro, Riverton City. [1:45] >> I'm also Tish Baro. No. Uh Dustin [1:47] Ghetto, mayor Midbau, [1:50] >> uh David Bram, Immigration Canyon, [1:53] Carlos Beris, Udat, Jim Harvey, Weber [1:57] County, [1:58] >> Andrea Pearson, WFRC admin. [2:01] >> I'm Andrew Guber, executive director [2:03] here at WFRC. Welcome everybody. [2:06] >> Thank you. Let's start with our [2:08] attendees over there. [2:11] Uh, I'm David Went. Uh, uh, supporter of [2:15] the Rio Grand Plan. [2:24] Jack Stouse. I'm the executive director [2:26] of Save Our Canyons. [2:29] >> Doug Tolman, Save Our Canyons. [2:32] >> Brad Rutled, Watch Back Country [2:34] Alliance. [2:36] >> Charlie Luke, Canyon Guard. [2:39] Dalton Dailyaly, Canyon Guard. [2:42] >> Emily Pitch, Friends of Little [2:44] Cottonwood Canyon. [2:50] » Connor House, Representative Mike [2:52] Kennedy. [2:53] >> Miranda Jones Cox, Government Relations, [2:55] WFRC. [2:57] >> George Joner, Long Range Planning Group, [2:59] WFRC. [3:00] >> Lauren Littlefield, Regional [3:01] Development, Holly Lake County. [3:03] >> Chandler Butler, UTA. [3:07] Uh Julie Bjorn WRC long range planning. [3:11] >> Victor Hollandbog, Governor's Office. [3:19] » Cameron with the Utility League of [3:20] Cities and Towns. [3:21] >> Nicole Berto um UTA. [3:26] » John Aardone WFRC. [3:29] >> Renardman, uh interning analytics group [3:31] at WFRC. [3:33] >> Jiren Robertson with the Utah Transit [3:35] Authority. [3:36] Wayne Benny, WFRC staff. [3:40] >> Byron Head, WFRC staff. [3:43] >> Chrissy Dolberg, WFRC staff. [3:46] >> Paulo Aguilera, WFRC staff. [3:51] >> Samantha Deilhor, Longrange Planning, [3:53] WFRC. [3:56] >> Bert Granberg, WFRC Analytics Group. [3:59] >> Ariel Sultani, short-range planning, [4:01] WFRC. [4:04] Ben Witridge, WFRC staff. [4:10] » Okay, Jason, do you want to go ahead? [4:13] >> Jason Brown in Vision Utah. [4:15] >> Thank you. Andrea, would you mind going [4:17] through our attendees online? Thank you. [4:24] » Okay, so I'll read three names and have [4:25] you introduce yourself. Uh, we have [4:27] Mayor Erin Mendenhal, uh, Council Member [4:30] Amy Wender Newton, and Mayor Sheree [4:32] Wood. Here, [4:37] » here. Here. [4:40] >> John Croft, Davis County. [4:43] >> Thanks, Commissioner. Okay. And now, [4:45] Mayor, [4:46] >> also Oh, [4:48] >> sorry. Thanks. Thanks, Mayor Sultan. We [4:51] got you. Okay. Um, Mayor Paul [4:54] Fatheringham, [4:56] Mayor Mara Manzioni, and Mayor Sher [4:58] Bingham. Uh Paul Fatheringham, holiday [5:01] mayor [5:03] >> here. Mayor Manzion. [5:10] » Okay. And Mayor Bingham is in [5:12] attendance. Um Mayor Karen Lang, Mayor [5:15] Mark Shepard, Mayor Janet Wampler. [5:18] Apologies. [5:21] >> Hi, Mayor. Thank you. [5:23] >> Yep. Mark Shepard, Mayor Clearfield. [5:25] >> Yeah, you're good. [5:27] >> Thank you. Janet Wampler, mayor of Ogden [5:29] Valley City. [5:31] >> Uh, Commissioner Railen Blocker, Mayor [5:33] Steve Gibson, and Mayor Alan Perry. [5:38] >> Yes. Uh, Commissioner Blocker, Morgan [5:40] County. [5:47] » Mayor Perry White City. [5:51] >> Thank you. Okay. And we have other [5:53] attendees also online joining us. Thank [5:55] you. [5:57] Okay, welcome. We welcome all of you. We [5:59] thank all of you for being here. All [6:01] right, the first item on our agenda is [6:04] an action item. [6:07] Uh it's the minutes that have been sent [6:08] in draft form of the WFRC meeting held [6:11] March 26th, 2026. Our current financial [6:14] report and the financial statements for [6:15] February and March of this year. Those [6:17] have been sent out for review. Does [6:19] anyone have any amendments to make or is [6:21] there a motion on the draft minutes? I [6:23] make a motion that we approve the action [6:25] item one. [6:27] >> Motion by Commissioner Stevenson. Is [6:29] there a second? [6:30] >> Who is that? Thank you, Commissioner. [6:36] Thank you. Okay. Motion and a second. [6:39] Any discussion to the minutes? Seeing [6:40] none, all in favor, please say I. [6:43] >> I. [6:45] >> Any opposed? [6:47] Those minutes are approved. Okay. I'm [6:51] going to ask for a motion to amend our [6:53] agenda. We've got a lot to get through [6:54] in this meeting, but we have a lot of [6:55] folks who have joined us today that [6:57] would like to speak that have asked for [6:59] an opportunity to speak and we're always [7:00] happy to hear from them. And so, I'm [7:02] going to ask for a motion to amend the [7:03] agenda and move public comment first [7:05] next right now before we jump into all [7:08] the rest of the meeting. Um, to be [7:10] respectful of their time because they [7:11] don't they don't need to be here all day [7:12] if they don't want to. They're welcome [7:14] to stay as long as you want, but you [7:15] don't have to stay the whole time. So, [7:17] can I get a motion to amend the agenda [7:18] to put public comment above the chair [7:21] report as our next item? [7:22] >> So, move [7:23] >> second. [7:25] >> Motion by Commissioner Harvey, second by [7:26] Mayor Pro. Any discussion? All in favor, [7:29] please say I. [7:31] >> I. [7:34] >> Any opposed? All right. Great. Thank you [7:37] so much. [7:43] Okay. Um, one of our key roles here at [7:46] the Wasatch Front Regional Council is to [7:48] develop the regional transportation [7:49] plan, as you all know, in collaboration [7:51] with our transportation agencies, our [7:53] local governments, and input from our [7:55] stakeholders and the public. We recently [7:57] completed the public input period about [8:00] the preferred scenario, which is it's [8:02] like a first draft of the next RTP. It's [8:05] a four-year process, but it's it's kind [8:06] of an initial draft. Uh, and a lot of [8:08] people submitted comments. We had a lot [8:10] of comments either by mail in meetings [8:12] or through an online map and uh we take [8:16] that feedback really seriously and we [8:17] appreciate the input. The RTP is not on [8:20] today's agenda to be clear. We're not [8:22] talking about it today on the agenda. [8:24] It's not it's not one of our discussion [8:25] items. We are not scheduled to take [8:27] action on that until next year. So that [8:29] will be sometime in 2027. Hi Mayor. That [8:33] will be sometime in 2027. [8:36] However, um we have representatives from [8:40] several organizations that reached out [8:41] in advance and some of them they were [8:43] able to introduce themselves a little [8:45] bit. They asked to offer brief public [8:46] comments during our regular public [8:48] comment period today about the [8:50] Cottonwood Canyons. And so before I open [8:53] the rest of the public comment period, [8:55] before I turn it to everybody else, I'm [8:56] going to open the public comment period [8:59] and um we're going to have two minutes [9:01] each. We're going to invite first up [9:03] Jack Strauss from Save Our Canyons. [9:05] Jack, if you'd like to come up here, [9:07] you're more than welcome. We love having [9:09] you. Thanks for being here. [9:12] » Uh thank you so much. I appreciate the [9:14] uh opportunity to comment today, even [9:17] though the RTP is still a year and a [9:19] half out. Um but I think it's relevant. [9:21] There's a lot uh in the works and I [9:22] think uh all of our uh community members [9:24] and collaborators are really interested [9:26] to be engaged in this process. [9:28] So, some of you may be familiar with our [9:31] work, but those of you that are not, [9:32] Save Our Canyons is a 54 year old [9:34] nonprofit dedicated to preserving the [9:36] Was the Wasatch Front beauty and [9:37] wildness. Um, transit planning has [9:40] become a key pillar of our work. And [9:42] once again, we're really grateful to um [9:44] be involved here in the first steps of [9:45] the RTPA revision in 2027. And so, I was [9:47] I feel like it's important to present a [9:49] verbal comment uh attached to our um [9:51] written comment that we sent last week. [9:53] Um we strongly support the advanced uh [9:56] enhanced bus service and bus rapid [9:57] transit um to mobility hubs near the [9:59] mouths of big and little cotwin canyons [10:01] and we're really encouraged by UD do's [10:02] progress on the gravel pit mobility hub [10:04] and uh canyon bus infrastructure. These [10:07] are things that our organization and [10:08] partners strongly support and really uh [10:10] excited to continue to engage in the um [10:13] planning and facilitation of. We believe [10:15] that for Canyon Transit to truly [10:17] succeed, it must be integrated into the [10:19] broader regional network, the regional [10:21] front, the Rosiz front regional council. [10:23] Um, so we urge the WFRC to work with [10:26] agencies and municipal partners to [10:28] expand the current canyon transit plans [10:30] into a comprehensive tri canyon transit [10:32] vision, one that includes Mil Creek, Big [10:34] and Little Conway Canyons, and it serves [10:36] year-round visitors at multiple access [10:38] points. [10:39] A tangible step towards this vision [10:41] would be to support a second mobility [10:42] hub at the 9400 South Highland. This was [10:45] in the original one of the drafts of the [10:46] little common canyon EIS but was [10:48] excluded from the rod. Our written [10:50] comments on the draft that's one example [10:51] of ideas that we've had to help uh kind [10:53] of work towards this vision and uh our [10:56] comments on the draft RTP preferred [10:58] scenario outline specific connections [11:00] and further and more nodes to further [11:01] support the vision [11:04] because reliable transit service [11:05] requires reli reliable funding. We also [11:07] ask the WFRC work with UD do and other [11:09] partners to identify accurate costs and [11:11] reliable funding streams for operation [11:13] and maintenance of canyon transit [11:15] projects. And finally, we urge the WFRC [11:17] to reassess the Little Conway Canyon [11:19] environmental impact statement cost [11:21] estimates which we believe are now [11:23] outdated. Specifically, we ask the [11:24] commission to provide updated costs for [11:26] each phase of the project, including the [11:27] Gondell proposal in phase three. We have [11:30] reason to believe that the costs have se [11:31] severely inflated in recent years. [11:34] We believe existing roadways, improved [11:36] buses, bus service, and strategic [11:37] infrastructure investments can address [11:39] both canyon and city traffic challenges, [11:41] affordability, and uplift affordability [11:44] and e equitable transit access. [11:46] >> Jack, thank you for your comments. That [11:47] was two minutes. [11:48] >> Thank you so much. [11:51] >> Not turned on. Thank you so much, Jack. [11:53] Thanks for being here and for [11:54] representing all the folks that are [11:56] members of Saber Canyon. Okay. Brad [11:58] Rutled with Wasach Back uh sorry Wasach [12:02] Back Country Alliance. Apologies. [12:11] Hello. Can you guys hear me? All right. [12:13] I'm Brad Rutled and I represent [12:15] approximately 45,000 backcountry [12:18] enthusiasts that love the central Wasach [12:20] Mountains. And I'm here with a simple [12:23] request um to do the right thing. So, [12:26] I'm here to talk about the Little [12:27] Cottonwood Canyon proposed gondola and [12:30] uh what do I mean by do the right thing? [12:32] Well, one, don't ruin Little Cottonwood [12:34] Canyon. Two, let's implement traffic [12:37] solutions that solve the problem. And [12:40] number three, please don't let Wasach [12:43] Front Regional Council just rubber stamp [12:46] things that have been coming up um and [12:48] allowing this to go through. So um what [12:51] I what I do want to ask about or what I do want to ask you to do implore [12:55] you to do is um if you are neutral or [13:00] you are pro gondola maybe you want more [13:02] information about the gondola as a [13:04] voting member or a member of this [13:05] committee or this council let's meet [13:08] let's talk about it I would love to [13:10] share with you why so many people are [13:12] against the gondola communities along [13:14] the central was front are against it if [13:16] you represent a community outside of the [13:18] central was front for I'm sure you want [13:20] to understand this because your [13:22] constituents will be uh impacted by it. [13:27] If you are against the gondola, I'm [13:30] going to encourage you to be bold and [13:31] actually be bolder. Let's not get caught [13:34] up in the legal language, the [13:37] bureaucracy of what's happening. Um, I [13:39] actually believe in the WFRC when I [13:43] first learned of it about four years ago [13:44] on this topic. And um, I do want you to [13:49] play a role in representing your [13:51] constituents and learning about this [13:53] issue. If you've been taught about the [13:55] gondola and it's one-sided, please let's [13:57] talk about it. Let's have a respectful [13:59] conversation. So, I do think hundreds, [14:01] if not thousands of comments have come [14:03] in online recently. I'm not going to go [14:05] through those. there's a lot of um [14:08] really valid arguments that you know [14:11] address engineering operational legal [14:13] issues and I don't want to get into that [14:15] but I am asking [14:16] >> thank you for your comment [14:18] >> and if I can leave with one final [14:20] thought that's okay um in the end doing [14:24] the right thing means preserving the [14:26] canyon representing your people and [14:28] having the courage to choose solutions [14:30] that leave a legacy of stewardship and [14:33] not regret thank you [14:35] >> thank you [14:38] Next, Charlie Luke from Canyon Guard. [14:47] » Thank you, council members. Uh, my name [14:49] is Charlie Luke, executive director of [14:50] Canyon Guard. We believe that the [14:52] gondola never should have been included [14:53] in the 2023 2050 RTP. And as the 2027 [14:59] 2055 RTP is finalized, we're asking that [15:02] the WFRC take four specific actions. [15:05] One, establish consensus based metrics [15:07] for phases one and two. In 2023, the [15:10] WFRC adopted a policy of prioritizing [15:13] and evaluating phases one and two before [15:15] any advancement to phase three. But UD [15:17] do's rod included no concrete timeline [15:20] or intermediate benchmarks. We asked the [15:22] WFRC to establish firm consensus based [15:25] metrics so that the evaluation is [15:27] meaningful and not a rubber stamp. Two, [15:30] identify and support O andM funding for [15:32] enhanced busing. UD do has committed [15:35] hundreds of millions of dollars in [15:36] capital costs for phase one bus service, [15:38] but has not formally identified ongoing [15:40] operations and maintenance funding. [15:42] Reliable frequent service requires [15:44] reliable frequent funding. We ask the [15:46] WFRC to use its role as an NO to [15:48] identify and support those ongoing [15:50] funding sources. Three, plan and support [15:54] a mobility hub at 94 South and Highland [15:58] Drive. The current UTA park and ride at [16:00] 94th South Highland Drive is an under is [16:02] undersized for expanded transit. We [16:05] asked the WFRC to support expanding it [16:08] into a full mobility hub similar to the [16:09] inprocess gravel pit hub to reduce [16:12] bottlenecks and better serve visitors [16:14] from the south and the west. This has [16:16] broad community and municipal support. [16:18] And four, update cost estimates for all [16:20] three EIS phases. The rod estimated the [16:23] gondola at $1.2 2 billion before recent [16:26] inflation, tariffs, and economic [16:28] uncertainty. As an WFRC has the [16:31] responsibility to ensure long-range cost [16:33] estimates are current. We ask that all [16:35] three EIS phases be repriced. Thank you [16:38] for your time and we look [16:39] [clears throat] forward to working with [16:40] the WFRC on these common sense steps. [16:44] >> Thanks, Charlie. [16:46] Okay, Emily Pitch, Friends of Little [16:48] Cottonwood Canyon. [16:55] Hello council. Um, in 2023 when y'all [16:58] decided to include the gondola in the [17:00] RTP, that decision was based at least in [17:03] part on a legal memo from Stole Rives. [17:05] But I think the conclusion of that memo [17:07] should be questioned. First, the memo [17:10] failed to consider appendix A of 23 CFR [17:13] section 450, which states that for 40 [17:15] years it has been congressional intent [17:17] for federally funded highway and transit [17:20] projects to flow from transportation [17:22] planning processes and not the other way [17:24] around. Second, the memo failed to [17:27] mention the Federal Highway [17:28] Administration's document titled [17:30] transportation planning requirements and [17:32] their relationship to NEPA approvals. [17:34] The document states that before a rod [17:36] can be signed, it needs to be consistent [17:38] with the RTP. This is consistent with an [17:42] example from Missoula County, Montana. [17:44] The rod for Miller Creek Road in [17:46] Missoula County. While the final EIS [17:49] selected a build alternative, the rod [17:52] stated, and I quote, "A project must be [17:55] included in a fiscally constrained RTP [17:58] before a build alternative can be [17:59] selected in a ROD. Therefore, the no [18:02] action alternative has been selected. [18:04] This suggests that the transportation [18:06] planning organization had and exercised [18:09] its authority to shape the NEPA outcome [18:12] and not the other way around. I believe [18:15] the WFRC had the authority to exclude [18:17] the gondola, but that would have [18:20] required you do to exclude the gondola [18:22] from the rod. I urge the council to [18:24] pursue a second independent legal [18:26] opinion and answer the question of if [18:29] the WFRC has the authority to amend the [18:32] RTP to exclude the gondola going [18:35] forward. Thank you. Thank you, Emily. We [18:38] appreciate each of you and uh you [18:42] everyone that you represent, everybody [18:43] that that came to spoke today to speak [18:45] today, we appreciate you. Okay, we have [18:48] six or seven minutes left of our [18:50] scheduled public comment time. If [18:51] there's anyone here uh from the public [18:53] that would like to speak about anything, on our agenda, whatever you'd [18:57] like to speak about, yes, you're [18:59] welcome. You can come take two minutes [19:01] and let us know who you are. Again, you [19:02] already did, but for the public uh [19:04] record, we'd appreciate it. [19:05] >> Sure thing. Uh my name is David Wentch. [19:07] I am a supporter of the Rio Grand Plan. [19:09] And first, I want to put in a brief word [19:10] of thanks to the Wasad Front Regional [19:12] Council for including several [19:14] exploratory concepts in the draft 2027 [19:16] RTP. Uh pretty much every transit item [19:19] in the exploratory concepts is a good [19:21] idea that deserves its time in the sun, [19:23] including things like the Tilla Regional [19:26] Express, the transit fresh look [19:27] projects, and of course, Rio Grand [19:29] Plant. [laughter] [19:30] That brings me to my second concern [19:32] though. In item 5C of this meeting, we [19:34] have a set of transportation project [19:36] proposals that includes the Salt Lake [19:38] urban area proposal item 18, Salt Lake [19:41] City, Salt Lake Central Transit [19:43] Improvements. Uh this is a proposal to [19:45] redevelop the current Salt Lake Central [19:47] Station in place with no adjustment to [19:49] the current rail alignment. Uh I would [19:52] ask that this be delayed until 2027 when [19:55] the we connect study uh is uh concluded. [19:59] If you don't know what we connect is, [20:01] that is an ongoing study to for West [20:04] East connections in Salt Lake City. Uh, [20:07] every one of the public outreach events [20:09] I've gone to for we connect, every [20:12] single Westside resident has said, "Bury [20:14] the rails. Bury the rails. Bury the [20:15] rails." Uh, it is very likely that [20:18] they're going to conclude, "Bury the [20:19] rails." And UD do has pledged to follow [20:22] whatever we connect recommends. And if [20:23] the rails are buried, that is going to [20:25] change what needs to be done at Salt [20:27] Lake Central, which is going to re uh [20:29] render this potentially a stranded asset [20:33] or in need of uh additional amendments [20:36] to that plan. So, in order to be more [20:39] efficient with WFRC's resources, it [20:41] would make sense to delay that [20:43] consideration until that time. Thank you [20:45] very much. [20:47] >> Thank you. Thank you so much. Last call. [20:50] If there's anybody here that has [20:51] anything you'd like to speak to at the [20:53] council. [20:55] Okay, seeing none, we will close the [20:57] public hearing. Uh we have we have a [21:00] request. I believe Mayor Mendenhal is [21:04] going to share a statement from Mayor [21:07] Wilson who uh had something urgent come [21:12] up and and at the last minute was not [21:13] able to join us. So, we wish her well [21:15] and hope all is well. We'll turn to [21:16] Mayor Menhal. [21:18] >> Thank you, Mayor Ramsey. Can you hear [21:20] me? Okay. [21:22] >> Yes, it's great. [21:23] >> Okay. [21:24] >> Dear Wasatch Front Regional Council [21:26] members, as mayor of Salt Lake County [21:28] and a member of the Wasatch Front [21:29] Regional Council, I appreciate the [21:31] opportunity to comment as the council [21:33] begins development of the 2027 through [21:36] 2020 2055 RTP or regional transportation [21:40] plan. I've consistently opposed the [21:42] proposed Little Cottonwood Canyon [21:44] Gondola project, a position also shared [21:47] by the majority of Salt Lake County [21:49] Council and my position has not changed. [21:52] While I support improving transportation [21:54] access and safety in the Cottonwood [21:56] Canyons, I strongly believe there are [21:58] better, less impactful, and more [22:01] cost-effective alternatives available. I [22:04] believe public comment should carry real [22:07] weight in the RTP process. As the RTP is [22:10] again being modified, I hope members of [22:13] this body will continue to take the [22:14] public's opposition to this project [22:16] seriously. [22:18] Recent public comment once again [22:20] reflects strong opposition to including [22:22] the Gondola project in the upcoming RTP. [22:25] I also acknowledge the previous actions [22:27] of the WFRC body in 2023 with the [22:31] adoption of an amendment requiring [22:33] implementation of phase one and two [22:35] improvements prior to advancement of the [22:38] gondola. Additionally, legal opinion [22:40] provided to WFRC stating that due to the [22:44] structure and findings of the [22:45] environmental impact statement process, [22:47] the gondola project cannot easily be [22:50] decoupled from the broader [22:51] transportation package under [22:53] consideration. While I understand that [22:56] procedural reality, it does not lessen [22:59] our responsibility to continue [23:01] evaluating whether this remains the best [23:04] long-term transportation solution for [23:06] the canyon and the region. During the [23:08] prior RTP process, more than 1,600 [23:12] public comments were submitted regarding [23:14] the gondola proposal, and the public was [23:17] repeatedly assured that inclusion in the [23:19] RTP would not predetermine the final [23:22] outcome. Importantly, UD do has already [23:25] begun implementing phase 1 [23:27] transportation solutions. The agency is [23:29] advancing development of a mobility hub, [23:32] moving to acquire additional buses, and [23:35] identifying a transit service provider. [23:37] These investments represent meaningful [23:40] and flexible improvements that can be [23:42] implemented sooner and adapted over time [23:45] as transportation needs evolve. I [23:48] continue to believe these investments, [23:50] expanded transit service, mobility hubs, [23:52] demand management, parking controls, and [23:55] phased operational improvements [23:57] represent a better long-term solution [24:00] than committing the region to a costly [24:02] and inflexible gondola system. When the [24:06] time comes for any amendment to the [24:08] environmental impact statement or UD [24:10] do's record of decision, I believe the [24:13] project will face increasing scrutiny [24:15] due to strong and sustained public [24:17] opposition, escalating project costs, [24:20] and growing unpredictably, [24:22] unpredictability in weather patterns [24:24] that raise legitimate long-term [24:26] operational questions. I strongly [24:29] believe these realities will ultimately [24:31] lead to dismissal of the gondola option. [24:35] In the meantime, canyon users and the [24:37] broader public also have a [24:38] responsibility to embrace practical [24:41] transportation solutions that are [24:43] available now and will soon be expanded. [24:46] busing and transit improvements [24:48] can succeed if we collectively commit to [24:51] using them. We should do our part to [24:54] demonstrate that common sense, flexible [24:56] transportation solutions can work [24:59] effectively in the canyon environment. [25:02] As the Wasatch Front Regional Council [25:04] updates the RTP for the coming decades, [25:06] I encourage careful consideration of [25:09] both the public feedback received and [25:11] the broader long-term implications of [25:13] this project. Signed, sincerely, Mayor [25:16] Jenny Wilson. [25:18] >> Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. Okay, [25:21] we have we have some council members [25:24] that are new to the council who were not [25:26] on the council in 2023 and are less [25:29] probably informed about what we're [25:31] talking about here because you weren't [25:33] part of it before and it's not on our [25:35] agenda to talk about so we haven't [25:37] talked about it today. I'm gonna turn to [25:39] our executive director, Andrew Gruber, [25:41] to just um help round out the [25:44] conversation to give additional context [25:46] and also Carlos Brceris with you do if [25:48] either of you have anything you'd like [25:49] to share just to make sure everybody [25:51] here on the council is is um all up to [25:54] speed on the same page. That would be [25:55] helpful. [25:56] >> Sure, Madam Chair. Thank you very much. [25:58] And let let me also echo, mayor, what [26:01] you said, how much we appreciate the [26:04] engagement not just of the council [26:05] members, all the communities around the [26:09] region and the public. Um, I think all [26:12] of our processes work better when [26:14] members of the public are actively [26:16] engaged and they speak up and they [26:17] express their views and they engage in [26:19] the process. And so and I we and I have [26:21] had great conversations with many [26:24] organizations around the region on [26:25] various issues including the Cottonwood [26:27] Canyons and Rio Grand Plan and we really [26:29] appreciate their uh engagement. We get [26:32] comments from the public. We read and [26:35] consider all of them carefully and we [26:38] share those comments when they are when [26:40] they are relevant to UD do or to UTA or [26:42] to a city or to a county. We share those [26:44] comments with those entities as well. So [26:46] thank you. Um, with regard to the [26:49] regional transportation plan and the [26:51] Little Cottonwood Canyon environ [26:53] environmental impact statement, um, I'm [26:56] going to there's a lot to say about [26:57] this, but I'm going to be mindful of the [26:59] fact that, as you noted, it's not on the [27:01] agenda, so I'm just going to be brief [27:02] and we'd be happy to follow up with [27:03] anybody who wants, but generally [27:05] speaking, right, the RTP, the regional [27:07] transportation plan, is the long range [27:10] general plan for the region. And WFRC as [27:14] a metropolitan planning organization has [27:16] a significant amount of discretion [27:19] in that plan in selecting the projects [27:22] that get included, road, transit, trail [27:24] projects that get included. Uh and that [27:27] RTP process is done pursuant to federal [27:29] law and regulation. Then there is also [27:32] another uh federally established process [27:35] under NEPA national environmental policy [27:38] act uh which establishes the EIS [27:41] environmental impact statement process [27:43] which is a much more detailed intensive [27:47] project or or corridor or project [27:49] specific analysis. when there is an EIS [27:53] that's done uh and most projects are not [27:56] subject to an EIS but when there is an [27:58] EIS that's done uh the discretion of [28:02] WFRC is significantly limited that's the [28:05] relationship between the broader [28:06] planning process and the more detailed [28:08] EIS process so we are required as an MO [28:12] to include in the regional [28:14] transportation plan the results of an [28:16] environmental impact statement and then [28:19] we do have a responsibility and we did [28:21] this in 2023, which is with the results [28:24] of the EIS included, we evaluate the [28:26] entirety of the RTP to make sure that it [28:29] satisfies regional air quality and [28:31] fiscal requirements. And these processes [28:34] are pursuant to federal regulations and [28:37] legal guidance and decades of consistent [28:40] practice. That's the nature of our [28:42] processes. I will just note briefly that [28:44] in 2023 when we adopted the regional [28:47] transportation plan, this was noted [28:49] already. We did include a a statement, a [28:52] position if you will, that WFRC supports [28:55] prioritizing, implementing, and [28:57] evaluating phases one and two of the [29:00] Little Cottonwood Canyon EIS before [29:03] advancing uh to phase three. That [29:05] continues to be the um established [29:07] position uh of WFRC. And I'll note [29:09] that's state law says that as well and [29:11] it's the way the federal law works. Um [29:15] the good news and this is where madam [29:17] chair if it's okay I'll I'll give Carlos [29:19] the opportunity to to comment. As you [29:20] noted the good news for everybody is [29:23] that there's so much support for phase [29:25] one and there is a lot of progress [29:27] happening uh on phase one. So Carlos can [29:30] we put you on the spot to share a little [29:31] bit about that please? [29:34] >> Thank you Andrew. Thank you madam chair. [29:36] Carlos Brceris, Utah Department of [29:38] Transportation. Um, I I do want to maybe [29:42] echo a comment that Mayor Mendenhal [29:45] relayed from uh, Mayor Wilson. Um, back [29:48] in 2023, Mayor Wilson was very clear in [29:51] her opposition to the gondola, but very [29:53] clear in her support trying to make [29:55] phase one work. And I committed to the [29:57] mayor to work together to make phase one [30:00] a re. [30:02] I committed then at that time to make, [30:05] you know, to work together with her to [30:06] make phase one a reality and to make it [30:10] successful. And I think her comments of [30:13] it's going to take all of us to choose [30:15] to use the transit option once they're [30:17] in place to actually make this [30:19] successful. And so, um, Andrew had just [30:22] asked, he gave me a little heads up. So, [30:24] I have a cheat sheet here. Um, asked me [30:26] to give a little update on what's going [30:28] on with phase one. Uh we have completed [30:30] the environmental document that was an [30:32] environmental assessment for Big [30:34] Cottonwood Canyon. We have we have uh [30:37] selected a what we call a progressive [30:39] design build contractor. So that's [30:41] Granite Construction and Horox [30:43] Engineering uh to do to build the Gravel [30:46] Pit Mobility Center and we expect to [30:49] have them under contract in July. Um so [30:51] just a little over a month from now. Um [30:54] we're evaluating different bus [30:56] suppliers. So, it's important to have [30:58] the right type of bus to be successful [31:00] in the canyon. Our uh our snowplow [31:03] operators and our maintenance station [31:05] supervisors, it's like Snoopy's little [31:07] doghouse where you put the little [31:09] stickers of the planes they shot down. [31:11] They have pictures of buses of how many [31:14] buses they've had to push out of [31:15] ditches. And some of them have quite a [31:17] few pictures of buses they pushed out of [31:19] ditches. And so, we're trying to make [31:21] sure we get the right buses picked. [31:23] We've entered into a contract with [31:25] Washington State under their cooperative [31:27] uses agreement. The legislature, thank [31:29] you. Um passed a bill that allowed us [31:31] now to be able to leverage off other [31:33] procurement contracts. So Washington [31:35] state has a contract with just about [31:38] every bus provider um you can name. And [31:41] so we're in the process now evaluating [31:43] not only the manufacturers, but also the [31:46] types of buses sizes and um the power [31:49] honestly that's needed to be able to [31:51] provide the mobility up there. [31:53] um through uh the division of facilities [31:56] and construction management. So that's a [31:58] division in state government that does [32:00] buildings. Um we've signed a contract [32:03] with a architect and we're working on [32:06] the design of the mobility hub. Um and [32:09] we're going should be under that that [32:11] contract should be underway right now. [32:12] We're in rightaway negotiations with the [32:15] um with the property owner. We have been [32:18] for many years. Um they're actually [32:20] moving forward now I think in a more [32:22] positive way and we're doing site [32:24] investigations as you know um the [32:26] Wasatch uh fault runs along this area. [32:29] So our geotech engineers are evaluating [32:32] exactly where to put that. We're working [32:34] in Big Cottonwood Canyon to locate the [32:36] bus stations. So if you remember we're [32:38] going to put bus stations on the road so [32:40] they don't have to go into the resort [32:42] parking lots. That's where the buses get [32:44] delayed and we lose the kind of [32:46] reliability and service levels that [32:48] we're working for. So, we're working [32:50] with the resorts and locating those [32:52] buses. We're doing the same at Alta and [32:55] Snowbird to uh to locate those bus [32:57] stations as well. So, we're working to [33:00] move as fast as we can. Uh buses, [33:03] unfort, you know, we're thinking it's [33:04] about 50 buses. The cost of buses is [33:07] increasing [clears throat] [33:08] and Jay knows this. Uh buses prices are [33:11] going up incredibly fast right now and [33:14] uh so we're going to you know we have a [33:16] fixed budget of uh just a little over [33:18] $350 million. So we're looking to buy as [33:21] many buses as we can. We'd like to get [33:23] about 50 of those. Um and then we're [33:25] going to have to proceed with uh putting [33:28] together how to operate and maintain [33:30] those. But that's all underway. So it's [33:32] moving fast. We expect two years to be [33:35] able to have this service up and [33:36] running. [33:38] Thank you. I I I asked for them to [33:41] prepare just a few comments because we [33:43] have so many new council members and I [33:45] thought I want to make sure everybody in [33:46] the room knows what we're talking about. [33:48] You know, we're all kind of on the same [33:49] page. So, thank you again to each of you [33:51] that came to speak. Thank you for all of [33:52] that and we will definitely talk more [33:56] about this, but probably not a lot more [33:58] as a council until 2027. So yes, [34:07] » for Carlos is there because one of the [34:10] things mentioned was how much the costs [34:12] increase and and all the unexpected [34:15] things that have increased cost is how [34:16] do we how are we handling it? [34:18] >> Well, so if I understand the commenter's [34:21] position is they believe we should redo [34:23] the cost analysis that was done as part [34:25] of the environmental impact statement to [34:27] make choices between alternatives. [34:29] that's really doesn't play a role in us [34:32] moving forward in implementing phase one [34:34] at all. In fact, I would argue that the [34:36] cost differentials are probably going to [34:38] weigh more in the direction they don't [34:40] want it to with the cost of diesel and [34:42] bus increasing costs as well. If you [34:45] remember, the total cost of O andM plus [34:47] capital was greater for the bus [34:48] alternative than it was for the gondola [34:50] because, you know, we're going to need [34:52] probably about 75 bus CDL drivers. We're [34:56] going to need diesel mechanics. it's [34:57] going to take quite a bit more to [34:58] operate phase one. And so that I I [35:01] really do appreciate their encouragement [35:04] to help identify how we operate and [35:07] maintain this because the operating [35:08] costs are truly the long-term operating [35:10] costs for transit are truly the bigger [35:12] hurdle than the capital. [35:15] >> Good. Thank you. Okay. I just want to [35:18] note a a couple of uh council members [35:20] who have also joined us. I saw Mayor [35:23] Walker. I don't know if he walked in. He [35:26] was right there. Okay, he's coming. And [35:28] uh we have uh Mayor Palmer, Mayor Tran, [35:31] and Rob Jolly. And if anybody else has [35:33] joined us and I didn't say your name, I [35:35] did not see you. [35:36] >> Senator Harper is also listening online. [35:39] >> Great. Senator, we always welcome you [35:40] and appreciate having you here. Oh, and [35:42] Council Member Amy Winder Newton. [35:43] [clears throat] Yeah. [35:44] >> Has joined us online as well. Thank you [35:45] each of you for being here. Okay, we're [35:48] going to go back. Uh for those of you [35:50] who weren't here for this part, we [35:52] amended the agenda to put public comment [35:53] first. And now we're going to go back to [35:56] item two, the chair report. So last [35:59] week, the first draft of the federal [36:00] transportation reauthorization bill was [36:03] released. And it's it's a significant [36:05] milestone. You guys, thanks for being [36:06] here. We really did try to save you from [36:09] having to sit through all that. [36:10] >> Well, there's so much other good stuff. [36:11] You're leaving now. [36:12] >> It is good stuff, but you know, it's up [36:14] to you. [laughter] [36:15] Yeah, it's good. [36:18] Um we are excited to have this initial [36:21] blush released. It is not um small, it's [36:24] not short, it's not easy reading. [36:26] There's a lot to it. And Miranda is the [36:28] expert behind uh helping us understand [36:30] all. So we're going to turn to Miranda [36:32] Jones Cox to talk through um that give [36:35] us a report of that initial release. [36:38] >> Perfect. Thank you, mayor. Appreciate [36:40] it. Uh, usually when I come to the [36:42] council, I'm more or less sharing things [36:44] that are happening up at our state [36:45] capital with the legislative session, [36:47] but today I get to share a little bit of [36:48] what's happening back in Washington in [36:50] Congress. Uh, with the surface [36:53] transportation reauthorization, [36:55] um, what is surface transportation [36:58] reauthorization? It's a good question. [37:00] As a reminder, um WFRC and a number of [37:03] our other state uh transportation [37:06] partners, UD do UTA, the other MPOS, um [37:10] we receive our federal funding [37:12] authorization and our program a programs [37:15] authorization through this five-year [37:18] authorizing bill um that sets our [37:20] funding levels, sets our programs and [37:22] priorities, and gives us the [37:24] authorization to do the work that we do. [37:26] Um and in Congress, uh this bill happens [37:30] and is reauthorized every five years [37:32] generally. Sometimes that isn't [37:34] authorized on time. Uh in this case, we [37:37] may not see another uh authorization on [37:39] time. Um but the first draft, first bill, first version of the [37:45] next reauthorization was released um a [37:48] little over a week ago from the House [37:50] Transportation and Infrastructure [37:52] Committee. Um, some of you may be aware, [37:55] uh, Utah has members of our [37:58] congressional delegation on the House [37:59] TNI Committee. Uh, Congressman Burgess [38:02] Owens, Congressman Mike Kennedy, um, [38:05] Senator Curtis also sits on a a similar [38:09] Senate committee that oversees the same [38:12] transportation title. Um, and so over [38:16] the past year and a half, we've been [38:17] working really closely as team Utah, as [38:21] our transportation partners, and working [38:23] closely with our congressional [38:24] delegation to share with them what our [38:27] priorities are leading into a [38:29] reauthorization, which programs are [38:31] important to us, what funding is [38:33] important to us as Utah continues to [38:36] grow. and we've been able to share those [38:38] priorities with our delegation members [38:40] and they have um done a really helpful [38:43] and and successful job in working with [38:46] the congressional committees to share [38:48] those priorities and we've seen some of [38:50] those play out in what's included in [38:52] this initial proposal from the House TNI [38:54] committee. I want to share just very [38:56] quickly highlevel what's included in [38:59] this bill. Um we're not going to get [39:01] into too many details here but uh so you [39:04] guys have some context. One is that the [39:07] bill prioritizes federal funds coming [39:10] through formula funding as in directly [39:13] to the transportation organizations as [39:16] opposed to uh primarily through [39:18] discretionary grants. The infrastructure [39:21] investment and jobs act which was the [39:23] previous and current reauthorization uh [39:25] authorization we're under focus more on [39:28] u competitive discretionary grants that [39:30] we had to to compete for. that is uh [39:33] shifting some moving forward under this [39:36] proposal. Uh overall funding and and [39:40] structure of the bill is largely status [39:42] quo. Uh it's not a significantly larger [39:45] bill. Um and most of the programs are [39:48] funded at relatively the same levels [39:50] that we've seen through the IIGJA at [39:53] least for formula funds. Um notably it [39:56] does uh maintain funding for our core [39:59] program. So, we're not seeing any sign [40:01] large significant cuts. Um, the bill it [40:05] does provide a modest increase for [40:07] metropolitan planning funding. This is a [40:09] core funding program for WFRC that [40:12] allows us to do the work that we do. Um, [40:14] some slight funding increase for surface [40:17] transportation block grant program, [40:19] which is funding for local projects [40:22] within your communities. Uh, it [40:24] continues the safe streets and roads for [40:27] all grant program. This was a program [40:29] authorized in the infrastructure [40:31] investment and jobs act that provides [40:32] safety uh funding for safety projects [40:35] locally. Uh a very successful program [40:38] and we're happy to see that one [40:40] potentially continue to move forward. Uh [40:43] it establishes a new bridge funding [40:45] program and it extends eligibility for [40:48] Utah to now qualify for a transportation [40:52] assistance for uh international games. [40:55] This would be a grant program uh that [40:57] World Cup cities and Olympic cities [40:59] would qualify for. Utah would now be [41:02] included as an eligible entity for 2034 [41:06] Winter Olympics, which is exciting. [41:08] Lastly, uh, Congressman Owens included [41:11] what we believe is an important [41:12] amendment in the bill, uh, which would [41:15] allow fast growing areas like Utah, like [41:18] specific areas in Utah that, um, may not [41:22] currently be very competitive for, uh, [41:24] federal transit funds to be more [41:27] competitive based on the way some things [41:28] are are structured. So again, another way that our delegation has been [41:34] involved and um and was fighting for [41:36] some some Utah priorities. So I guess [41:39] just to kind of wrap things up, what [41:41] does this look like moving forward? This [41:44] is one initial step in a very long [41:46] process. Um it's taken us a while to get [41:48] here and it will take us a while longer [41:50] to get to a final reauthorizing bill um [41:52] and getting that passed. It may not [41:54] happen on time. The bill uh expires in [41:58] September, end of September of this [42:00] year. Uh the Senate is far behind the [42:02] House, so we may not we may see another [42:06] extension uh 6 months a year even. Um [42:10] all of that is is to be determined. Um [42:12] but I guess the the [42:14] where this leaves us is it gives us a [42:16] really great baseline for negotiations [42:18] moving forward. It allows the Utah [42:20] transportation partners to work together [42:22] to ensure that what priorities that were [42:25] included in this bill continues to move [42:27] forward with the Senate. Um and and that [42:30] we also can continue to fight for things [42:32] that maybe we didn't see in the bill uh [42:34] yet. So, lots more to come on this uh as [42:38] the year moves on. Um but it is a great [42:40] first step and it was it was great to [42:42] see the House already put some initial [42:44] language out. So happy to answer any [42:46] questions, but I'll turn things back [42:47] over to you, mayor. [42:49] >> Thank you. Does anybody have any [42:51] questions for Miranda? It's a really [42:53] good summary of the 105 or however many [42:56] pages initial document that is, and so [42:58] much work has gone into it. I do want to [43:00] give a mention if I can. It's been about [43:02] a year and a half ago, maybe a little [43:04] more than that, that all of the [43:06] stakeholders in Utah came together to [43:08] come up with and really become granular [43:11] on Utah's four top priorities for the [43:14] reauthorization bill from all the [43:17] stakeholders. This isn't any one group [43:19] or elected body making up their own [43:22] thing. Everyone worked together to come [43:24] up with Utah's four top priorities. And [43:28] when we create a package that's unified [43:31] and nice and neat that we can give to [43:33] our congressional delegation and say [43:34] this is as a state what we want, what we [43:36] need, uh they've worked really hard to [43:38] help get us there and um I can tell you [43:42] personally how grateful I am for the [43:44] efforts that have been made to uh [43:46] include language in an amendment that we [43:49] have a long way to go, but Congressman [43:52] Owens has worked to build bipartisan [43:54] coalitions uh from states across the [43:57] West because we're not the only ones [43:59] growing fast that aren't competitive for [44:02] new transit uh grants because of the [44:05] formula that currently exists. And uh in [44:08] my perfect world, we would be able to [44:10] amend that formula to allow for fast [44:12] growing areas that don't already have a [44:14] massive writership because it costs so [44:16] much less to put it in before all the [44:17] writers are there and all the writers [44:19] are coming. So, it's it's been a team [44:22] effort by a lot of folks across the [44:24] state for quite some time. And [44:27] personally, with this first blush draft [44:29] and where things are at, I could not be [44:31] happier. I think we are in a good place [44:33] and and team Utah has worked really [44:35] hard. So, we'll just keep working hard [44:37] and keep supporting our delegation and [44:39] anything they can do because uh it looks [44:41] good right now. It looks good. So, as [44:43] people start to pick at it and take it [44:45] apart and here and there, we'll just [44:47] keep working to keep Utah's four [44:48] priorities in there. And thank you to [44:50] everyone who's been key in that. It's [44:52] been a heavy lift and like you said, [44:54] we're far from over. But right now, I [44:58] was really happy with where things are [44:59] so far. They came out really positive [45:01] for Utah in this first draft. Right. And [45:03] I've got all the people shaking their [45:04] heads going, "That is true." Yes, we [45:06] agree. We agree. And that's good news. [45:08] So, any other questions for Miranda? Any [45:11] Do you have anything you'd like to say? [45:12] >> I have lots of things. [45:13] >> Okay. [45:15] Please. Thanks, Miranda. [45:18] >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank I really [45:19] appreciate the opportunity just to say [45:20] something really quickly. Um, I think as [45:23] we look at this from the funding [45:24] perspective, um, just for context, I'm currently apta's legislative chair, [45:29] the American Public Transportation [45:30] Association. And one of the things about [45:33] this that I think is really key is the [45:35] funding um, unanimously throughout all [45:38] transit agencies across the country was [45:41] we need to have the funding. The [45:42] strength of the funding and ongoing [45:44] infrastructure is one of the key [45:45] developments that needs to move forward. [45:48] And for transit agencies, that's [45:50] especially valuable. Um they've actually [45:53] included the um acquisition of real [45:55] property. They've um streamlining again [45:58] that Miranda already mentioned. All of [46:00] these things have incredible value and [46:02] as we continue to move forward, keeping [46:04] those funding levels keep um intact is [46:07] probably one of the best values that [46:09] will also value Utah as well. So, I just [46:12] wanted to add that. Thank you so much. [46:14] >> Thank you. [46:16] Okay. Um, I do want to make note that we [46:19] have uh Salt Lake County Council member [46:21] Lori Stringham also with us online. And [46:23] I don't know if anybody else has joined [46:25] us and if I've missed them, but council [46:27] member, we appreciate you being here and [46:29] thanks to everyone who's here. I do want [46:31] to take a note really quick uh with this [46:33] chair report and I wish I had a whole [46:34] lot more time to do this because really [46:36] qui quick seems [46:38] um like not enough. Um I just want to [46:41] make a note of the governance change [46:43] taking effect on July 1st. And my um [46:46] heart is here to say thank you to the [46:48] three trustees who are here with us [46:50] right now. This is our last Wasatch [46:52] Front Regional Council meeting with the [46:53] three of you serving as trustees and we [46:55] are grateful for the work that you've [46:57] done and that's why I said I I just wish [47:01] I had more time. So we have Carlton [47:03] Christensen and Beth Hullbrook and Jeff [47:05] Acerson here and just just grateful for [47:08] the work that you've all done. uh with [47:10] UTA, with all of our communities, with [47:12] our partners, with the organization and the work that you've done to help [47:16] elevate and expand um transit in your [47:20] governance role. We just we do [47:22] appreciate it. Plus, just your good [47:23] relationship roles that you've developed [47:25] with everybody. I think that goes a [47:26] really really long way and you've all [47:28] been very good at that. So, you know, we [47:31] don't usually clap here, but I'm going [47:33] to ask everyone if you would please join [47:34] me in thanking these three [47:43] All three of these great public servants [47:45] have done a lot. They've all been [47:46] elected officials. They've all served in [47:48] leadership roles in different areas [47:50] around the state in different ways. And they each have a pretty lengthy [47:55] history of public service in a variety [47:57] of roles. Thank you to each of you. [47:58] We're excited to keep working with you [47:59] and whatever whatever you decide to do [48:01] next, wherever that is, we're grateful [48:03] for you and look forward to continuing [48:05] to work with you and we hope you keep [48:07] working with us in some way, shape or [48:08] form, whatever you choose to do, because [48:12] um you've brought an immense value to [48:14] the state in this role. So, thank you to [48:16] each of you. Uh with that, um there are [48:20] a couple of announcements that have come [48:22] out. The COG announcements have come out [48:24] on the new uh board structure. Andrew, [48:26] would you take a second to just share [48:27] those? [48:28] >> I will. Um, but I can't not briefly also [48:32] express my um appreciation for my [48:36] friends, my colleagues. um not only [48:39] friends and colleagues, I'll also note [48:40] to you that Carlton was a um and well [48:43] and Beth and Jeff, all of them are [48:44] former elected officials, but Carlton [48:46] was a member of the um regional council [48:50] in his capacity as a Salt Lake City [48:52] Council person um in 2010 and he was on [48:55] the hiring committee for the WFRC [48:58] executive director. So, uh Carlton has a [49:01] special place in my heart. [49:03] I [49:04] >> I apologize. I'm sorry, you guys. [49:08] But uh not to belabor it, thank you so [49:10] much guys. Um yes, so everybody knows [49:13] that the new governance structure for [49:16] the UTA commission um will be seven [49:19] members um and an executive director, [49:22] Jay Fox. Um and at this point, three of [49:27] the um uh nominations, the appointments [49:31] have been made. They came from the COGS [49:33] to the governor. The governor has [49:35] submitted those names uh for [49:37] confirmation by the Senate. Um these are [49:40] names you'll recognize. You many of you [49:42] may have heard this already, but former [49:44] Ogden City Mayor and former WFRC chair [49:48] Mike Caldwell um was nominated from the [49:51] north, appointed from the north, subject [49:53] to Senate confirmation. Um former Mil [49:56] Creek City Mayor and former WFRC council [49:59] chair Jeff Silva Streiny from Salt Lake [50:02] County. and then former WFRC and UD do [50:05] employee uh Mural Sochimill uh was [50:08] appointed from Utah County and then the [50:11] four remaining appointments from the uh [50:15] House and the Senate um are still [50:17] pending. So that's a little update and [50:20] we look forward to continuing to work [50:21] collaboratively with the new commission [50:23] and of course with Jay and his great [50:24] team going forward. [50:26] >> Y thank you. Thank you. Okay, item four. [50:30] We're going to try to make up a little [50:32] bit of time from our public comment [50:33] period. Just just going to keep going. [50:36] Um we have a report on our regional [50:39] growth committee last week. We're going [50:40] to turn to the chair, Mayor Tammy Tran [50:42] for that. [50:42] >> Okay. Thank you everyone. We had a great [50:45] meeting last week. We had a discussion [50:46] about water use, how it relates to urban [50:48] growth and development patterns, and [50:50] shared responsive responses from all of [50:52] us to consider that fit with WFRC's [50:55] mission. The conversation got a wide [50:57] variety of ideas on the table, ranging [50:59] from the impacts that development [51:00] patterns have on per capita water [51:03] consumption to sharing sprinkler time of [51:05] the day enforcement practices to [51:08] communicate to communicating with the [51:10] public about the relative efficiency of [51:11] watering turf grass when it is for [51:14] shared community use such as parks and [51:15] battlefields or ballfields. Ballfields [51:19] not battlefields. RGC will be continuing [51:22] the conversation and today I have one [51:25] item to bring to the council. Item 4A is [51:27] an action stationary plan certification. [51:30] In the past year, tremendous progress [51:32] has been made by communities in [51:34] developing station area plans. There are [51:36] now 108,700 [51:39] new homes planned, which is fantastic, [51:42] in station areas along the Wasatch [51:44] Front. Last week, the regional growth [51:46] committee reviewed a resolution of [51:48] impractability for Midville City portion [51:51] of the historic Sandy Track Station [51:53] area. RGC is making a recommendation to [51:56] the council for certification. We are [51:58] joined here today by Midville Mayor [52:00] Dustin Ghetto and Byron Head, WFRC, [52:04] community planner, will introduce this [52:05] item. Thank you, Byron. [52:08] >> Thank you, mayor, and hello, council. [52:10] Um, as mentioned, we have one uh item on [52:13] the agenda today. This is the midvil [52:15] portion of the historic trendy historic [52:18] sandy tracks station. Um you're all [52:21] likely familiar at this point, but [52:23] stationary planning is a requirement um [52:25] from a few years ago in the legislature [52:27] that cities just take a hard good hard [52:29] look at the land use and uh first and [52:32] last mile connections around their [52:33] transit stations as these are uh [52:35] significant public investments. Um and [52:38] we have been making a lot of progress in [52:40] this area. uh combined with the MAG area [52:43] in Utah County, we have 127 station [52:45] areas. Um and if we are able to certify [52:49] this station area before us today, we [52:51] will tick into the triple digits. [52:52] Hooray. 100. Um so uh it's been a lot of [52:57] good work going on. As Mayor Tran [52:59] mentioned, we have over 108,000 [53:01] uh homes that have have been planned for [53:03] in these these plans that we've been [53:05] working on these last few years. And uh [53:07] another way in which this planning work [53:09] has has borne some fruit is we found out [53:11] last month um that WFRC as an [53:14] organization has been awarded a RIA [53:16] grant, a regional infrastructure [53:17] accelerator grant from the federal [53:19] government, the build uh build America [53:21] bureau. This project will look more in [53:24] detail and finer grained at certain [53:26] development projects within certain [53:28] station areas to identify projects that [53:31] are ready to go, but for certain [53:33] financial gaps. And we'll work with them [53:35] on strategies to make those feasible and [53:37] get some buildings built and some, you [53:40] know, parking structures and grocery [53:42] stores and apartments and homes and all [53:44] that kind of stuff. So, you'll be [53:46] hearing more about that as we go. That [53:48] is very new. We haven't even finalized [53:49] our agreement yet, but we just wanted to [53:50] share the good news. [53:53] Uh to our item today, uh Midvail portion [53:56] of the historic Sandy Tracks station [53:58] area. This, as the name implies, most of [54:00] the station area lies within Sandy. It [54:02] just kind of clips into Midvail for I [54:04] think it's less than five acres total. [54:06] Um a couple of existing businesses and [54:08] homes. So, this was seen as [54:11] impracticable by the city. Uh Mayor [54:13] Ghetto, u you have any thing you'd like [54:16] to add here? [54:17] Um just yeah real quick um this is our [54:22] as as you know I often say to this group [54:24] uh Midvail is a city of six square [54:26] miles. We have three of our own station [54:28] area plans and now we've worked with [54:30] three different cities on uh their [54:33] station area plans. So uh 3 plus 3 [54:35] equals six. So every square mile of [54:38] Midvail at least is represented by a [54:40] station area plan or projects we've [54:42] helped other cities with. But we [54:44] certainly support Sandy and their [54:46] efforts here. Um I do like the sound of [54:49] the resolution of impracticability. [54:51] Sounds pretty cool. Um but yeah, we we [54:54] certainly um we partner with all of our [54:57] surrounding city neighbors and and we're [54:59] looking forward to this. [55:02] >> Yeah. Yes. As as Mayor Gle mentioned, [55:04] this will be Midvail's last uh remaining [55:06] stationary a piece to to fill all of [55:09] their requirements. So it's a great [55:10] milestone for them. Um, all of the [55:13] information that you need is in your [55:14] packets. Um, we have collaborated with [55:17] UTA staff and as was mentioned, brought [55:19] this to RGC last week and they made a [55:21] positive recommendation to the council. [55:22] So, we have a suggested motion on the screen, but I'll turn it back to [55:27] Mayor Trann or Mayor Ramsey. [55:28] >> I'll ask I'll call for the motion. Thank [55:30] you so much. Mayor, would you like to [55:31] make the motion? [55:32] >> I would like to make that motion. Uh, so [55:34] moved [55:36] >> to I'm going to have you go ahead and [55:37] res and say it. [55:39] >> Sure. [55:40] I move to certify the Midvil Historic [55:43] Sandy Tracks resolution of [55:44] impracticability. [55:46] >> Thank you so much. Is there a second? [55:50] by Commissioner Harvey. Any [55:52] discussion? [55:54] Okay, seeing none, all in favor, please [55:56] say I. [55:57] >> I. [55:59] >> Any opposed? [56:02] Congratulations on your [56:03] impracticability. That's good stuff. And [56:05] it's another stationary plan. So, we hit [56:08] 100 and that is really good news. [56:10] >> We do have a border with Cottonwood [56:12] Heights that has not uh been uh subject [56:15] to this. So, we do have one more [56:17] possibility perhaps. [56:19] >> Awesome. Well, we'll look forward to it. [56:21] Back to you, Mayor. Is there anything [56:23] else from the regional growth committee? [56:25] >> Okay. Thank you so much. [56:30] And Byron, thank you to you. I can't see [56:32] you. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Hey, item [56:34] five. We've got our transportation [56:36] coordinating committee. Mayor Mark [56:38] Shepard is joining us online. We'll turn [56:40] to him. [56:44] » I'm going to pitch hit for Mayor Mark [56:46] Shepard who's reached out to me and [56:48] okay, [56:48] >> as you can hear, he's got a severe case [56:51] of laryngitis, which has been a great [56:53] blessing for his city. [laughter] [57:00] » We have uh we have three items today. Uh [57:03] the first is an opportunity to ask [57:05] questions about project modifications [57:07] approved by the transcom in April. The [57:10] second is an opportunity to take action [57:11] on the most recent requested board [57:14] modifications. And third, the council [57:16] will have the opportunity to approve 65 [57:18] million in funding today that [57:21] communities all along the Wasatch front [57:23] have applied for. And we'll hear a bit [57:25] about the process leading up to this [57:27] action. I'll turn the time over to the [57:29] great Ben Wridge. Ben, have at it. [57:33] >> Thank you, Commissioner. [clears throat] [57:37] So, as the commissioner alluded to, we [57:39] do have a great opportunity today as we [57:42] refer to the transportation improvement [57:44] program. And the first couple items we [57:47] have pertains to our current tip, which [57:50] is the 2026 [57:52] 2031 transportation improvement program. [57:57] The agenda items as identified by the [58:00] commission is uh to report on the [58:02] approved board modification by transcom [58:04] on the 30th of April, approve the new [58:07] board modification that'll be presented [58:09] before you and then to review the new [58:11] projects to be included in the draft [58:14] programs. As a reminder, the [58:16] transportation improvement program is a [58:18] six-year [58:20] program, [58:22] not a plan, but a program of highway [58:24] transit and active transportation [58:26] projects. That means there's money [58:28] associated with these projects. It [58:31] implements the long range plans and [58:33] meets the short range needs. And because [58:36] of the dynamics of the projects, it [58:38] requires periodic or almost every month [58:41] modifications to projects in a [58:44] transportation improvement program. [58:47] So in your meeting materials is a copy [58:49] of the resolution and a table that [58:51] identifies the actions that TransCom [58:54] took back on April 30th. This was a [58:57] board modification number six. It [58:59] identified a project up in Willard on [59:02] 750 North. And this is an information [59:04] item. Are there any questions on this [59:06] project? [59:11] » Questions for Ben? [59:14] >> Let's move on then to the uh item 5B [59:17] action on those board modifications on [59:20] that. Ben, perfect. Thank you, [59:22] Commissioner. So before you today in [59:24] your meeting materials, there's also a [59:26] table along with the resolution that [59:28] identifies three projects that we have [59:31] before you for review and approval. [59:34] We'll go through each of those projects. [59:36] The first one here is located in Tilla. [59:39] It's in the unincorporated part of [59:40] Twilla. It's on Drew Bay Road. Drew Bay [59:43] Road is a a critical facility. Uh it [59:47] connects uh Twilla City with Lakeside. [59:51] It's a 9mm facility and this road has [59:53] deteriorated [59:55] almost beyond use. It's a it's a well [59:57] worn out road. However, the portion that [1:00:00] we're going to look at right here is on [1:00:03] the south end. It goes um well, we'll [1:00:07] get right into it on this one here. So, [1:00:09] on the south end is Smelter Road and it [1:00:12] goes three miles to the north to the [1:00:14] railroad tracks. Now, this project will [1:00:16] widen the lanes and the shoulders. [1:00:19] It'll make improvements for pedestrians, [1:00:23] including improvements for safety. It'll [1:00:26] also reconstruct the road base, and [1:00:29] it'll reconstruct the asphalt on this [1:00:31] particular facility. [1:00:33] Now, this project is a project that [1:00:36] actually went through the community [1:00:38] project funding, which are projects that [1:00:41] are selected by Congress through an [1:00:43] application process. We used to call [1:00:45] these earmarks, but this project [1:00:48] received 5.2 million in CPF funds and [1:00:52] has a local match of a little more than [1:00:54] a million dollars, giving us a total [1:00:56] project cost of $6.24 million. [1:01:01] The next project that we have to look at [1:01:03] is I just want to note that Mayor [1:01:05] Manzion is is online and she commented [1:01:07] about the connection by this project [1:01:09] from Tela City and Lakepoint. That's a [1:01:11] favorable comment. So, keep going. [1:01:13] Thanks. [1:01:13] >> Oh, wonder. Thank you, Andrew. So, the [1:01:16] next project then is a project in Salt [1:01:18] Lake City, and this is a joint request [1:01:20] from UTA in Salt Lake City. This is on [1:01:23] the 200 South Transit Lane enhancement [1:01:26] and [clears throat] capacity [1:01:27] optimization. [1:01:28] This goes from 600 West up to University [1:01:31] Street, which is the street that ends [1:01:33] there, right below the presidential [1:01:35] circle. This project has a couple of [1:01:38] items on it that that are important to [1:01:40] this particular funding. It'll replace [1:01:43] the intersection or the the signals at [1:01:47] 13 and can install signals there at 9, [1:01:53] but it'll also improve the signage [1:01:57] um making the signage more visible as [1:01:59] well as the lane markings on this [1:02:01] facility. This project was also a [1:02:04] project that went through and was [1:02:06] recommended or approved by Congress on [1:02:09] the community project funding program. [1:02:12] This project received $2 million in a [1:02:15] CPF funds with a $500,000 match. This [1:02:19] project total cost is $2.5 million. [1:02:24] The last project that we have to look at [1:02:27] is the state funded programs. Now, every [1:02:30] year on the state funding levels for the [1:02:32] state funed programs are amended into [1:02:34] the existing tip during the month of [1:02:37] May. This um is to prepare for the new [1:02:41] fiscal year which begins on July 1st. [1:02:45] While I explain more of this board [1:02:46] modification, I'm going to let the [1:02:48] presentation slide through some pictures [1:02:51] that represent some of the items covered [1:02:53] in these programs. [1:02:56] So these programs include funding levels [1:02:58] for system preservation programs, [1:03:01] operation and safety programs, region [1:03:04] con region contingency funds and other [1:03:07] programs and region concept development. [1:03:10] Now the modification approves the [1:03:13] program funding levels but each program [1:03:15] is treated individually. The table [1:03:18] colors identify there with the gray out [1:03:21] is the previous year the 2026. [1:03:25] The blue which is a real life blue was [1:03:28] previously approved. The orange cells [1:03:31] are those that are being proposed and [1:03:33] the ones that are grayed out. Those are [1:03:36] projected programming but this is to a [1:03:40] proof that this board modification can [1:03:43] go into the tip for the programs. The [1:03:45] total program for the year 2027 [1:03:48] is 613,00,000. [1:03:53] That's the three board modifications [1:03:55] before you today. [1:03:58] Great. Are there any questions? Are [1:04:00] there any questions for you uh council [1:04:03] members with regards to Ben's [1:04:05] presentation? [1:04:09] » Lorine, [1:04:10] >> just a curious question. Um, in Tilla, [1:04:13] is that a county road? [1:04:16] >> Probably. [1:04:17] >> I'm not sure who owns the road. [1:04:19] >> Yeah. Anyway, [1:04:20] >> it is. [1:04:22] >> Okay, [1:04:22] >> there you go. [1:04:23] >> Thank you. [1:04:26] » There's no more questions. Madam Chair, [1:04:28] I'll make a motion that we adopt the [1:04:30] resolution to modify the 2026 to 2031 [1:04:33] transportation improvement program as [1:04:35] presented. [1:04:36] >> Thank you, Commissioner. We have a [1:04:37] motion on the table. Is there a second? [1:04:39] Mayor Palmer with the second. Any [1:04:41] discussion to this motion? [1:04:44] Okay. All in favor, please say I. [1:04:46] >> I. [1:04:48] >> Any opposed? [1:04:51] >> That passes. Thank you. [1:04:53] >> Madam Chair, if I may, [1:04:54] >> I may, Mr. Commissioner, can I just make [1:04:55] one comment, please? [1:04:56] >> Uh, on that last item, um, as Ben went [1:05:00] through briefly, there was a list of [1:05:02] 600ome million dollars of approved [1:05:04] funding that is for programs that run [1:05:07] through the transportation commission. [1:05:09] Um, if you want more detail on that, uh, [1:05:13] you can go back and watch the video of [1:05:16] the UD do Transportation Commission [1:05:18] programming workshop where they go in [1:05:20] significant detail through all of those [1:05:22] programs. And it's only what, Carlos, [1:05:26] four, five hours of uh, of uh, viewing. [1:05:29] Or you can do what I did, which is watch [1:05:31] it on one and a half speed, and that [1:05:33] shortens the time up a little bit. But [1:05:34] if you're a real transportation nerd, [1:05:36] you're going to want to go watch all of [1:05:38] that stuff as well. [1:05:44] » Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. I [1:05:45] appreciate Andrew saying that and I [1:05:46] think it's important for the for the [1:05:48] board to understand that that represents [1:05:51] projects statewide, not just within [1:05:54] front. So, it felt a little weird to me [1:05:57] to have the council approving projects [1:05:58] that other NPOs are going to be [1:06:00] approving. That's really their authority [1:06:01] to do, not yours. So those are program [1:06:04] levels, project levels information will [1:06:07] be coming later. So just it felt a [1:06:09] little awkward. [1:06:10] >> Well, I appreciate that, but I hope that [1:06:11] it expresses the support that this body [1:06:14] from the large portion of the wasat [1:06:15] front regional coun you was front region [1:06:18] um the support that we have for our [1:06:20] colleagues across the state of Utah and [1:06:21] our shared transportation priorities. [1:06:23] >> Thank you. And Carl, I thank you. I also [1:06:26] appreciate that. And so in our official [1:06:29] documentation, we recognize that the [1:06:32] actions taken by the council relate to [1:06:33] the projects in our area and for [1:06:36] theformational purposes, we show the [1:06:38] entirety of the programs. But thank you [1:06:39] for that clarification. [1:06:43] » Thank you, Car. [1:06:44] >> Thank you very much. Watching one and a [1:06:46] half speech was not very difficult. All [1:06:48] [laughter] right, let's for most of you [1:06:51] that caught that. Uh action number 5C uh action to approve the projects for [1:07:00] the surface transportation program, the [1:07:03] congestion mitigation and air quality [1:07:04] program and the transportation [1:07:06] alternatives program and the carbon [1:07:07] reduction program for the 2027 through [1:07:10] 2032 tip. Ben, [1:07:13] >> thank you commissioner. In preference to [1:07:15] that, let me tell you a little story. [1:07:18] One morning after a large storm, a man [1:07:20] was walking along the beach when he [1:07:21] noticed a boy picking up starfish and [1:07:24] throwing them into the ocean. [1:07:26] Approaching the boy, he asked, "Excuse [1:07:27] me, but what are you doing?" The boy [1:07:29] replied, "Throwing starfish back into [1:07:32] the ocean. The sun is rising, the tide [1:07:34] is going out. If I don't throw them [1:07:37] back, they'll die." The man laughed to [1:07:39] himself and said, "But there is too many [1:07:41] starfish on this beach. You can't [1:07:44] possibly make a difference." After [1:07:47] listening politely, the boy bent down, [1:07:49] picked up another starfish, and threw it [1:07:51] into the ocean. Then turning to the man, [1:07:53] he said, "I made a difference to that [1:07:55] one." I imagine that there are times [1:07:58] when we feel overwhelmed with the number [1:08:00] of needs and the cost of the projects. [1:08:02] We may think there's no way we can ever [1:08:05] make a difference, but each year we have [1:08:07] the opportunity to program funding for [1:08:10] some of the much needed projects. And [1:08:12] although our was front can be covered [1:08:15] with project needs, we can make a [1:08:17] difference to that one every year with [1:08:20] the tip process. So if we were to look [1:08:23] over the existing tip, the 2026 2031 [1:08:27] TIP, we currently have 367 [1:08:31] projects that were recommended and [1:08:34] approved by the regional council. That [1:08:37] amount of projects has a programmed [1:08:41] amount of 678 [1:08:44] plus million dollars that the Wasatch [1:08:47] Front Regional Council program. [1:08:50] Today we have the opportunity to look at [1:08:54] 39 new projects and those 39 new [1:08:57] projects will bring an additional $65.6 [1:09:01] million to the TIP. So, it's kind of a [1:09:04] big deal and it's pretty exciting. but [1:09:06] you do a significant role along the [1:09:08] Wasatch front as you identify the [1:09:11] projects that move forward. So on agenda [1:09:15] item 5C, we will talk about the projects [1:09:18] for the surface transportation program [1:09:20] or STP, the congestion mitigation air [1:09:23] quality program or the SEMAC [1:09:26] transportation alternative program, the [1:09:28] TAP, and the carbon reduction, the CRP [1:09:31] funds. Ben, just tying these things [1:09:33] together, these programs that Ben is [1:09:36] noting, these are the programs that are [1:09:39] that WFRC in our area, we have the [1:09:42] opportunity to program funds to projects [1:09:45] in your communities, as Ben noted. And [1:09:47] as Miranda was talking about earlier, [1:09:49] these are programs that are authorized [1:09:52] by the federal surface [snorts] [1:09:54] transportation authorization [1:09:56] legislation. So that bill going forward, [1:09:59] getting the programs passed leads to us [1:10:02] being able to allocate funds into your [1:10:05] communities uh to help you with your [1:10:08] transportation needs in partnership with [1:10:10] UD do and with UTA. And so that's how [1:10:12] these elements tie together. Thanks, [1:10:14] Ben. [1:10:15] >> And just quickly, there was a little [1:10:16] change, there was a change federally on [1:10:19] that, Andrew, that you texted all of us [1:10:21] with the drip with regards to uh some of [1:10:24] the federal with air quality. Are you do [1:10:27] you remember [1:10:28] >> there are yeah there are a there are a [1:10:30] variety of modifications that are [1:10:32] proposed [1:10:34] in the draft in the bill that came from [1:10:36] the House Transportation and [1:10:38] Infrastructure Committee. Tweaks to some [1:10:40] programs, adjustments to some funding [1:10:42] levels. Uh those things have not taken [1:10:45] effect yet. So what Ben is presenting [1:10:47] right now is operating under the current [1:10:50] structure as we go forward. Also, what [1:10:54] you're probably you what you also might [1:10:56] be referring to is the determination the [1:10:59] preliminary determination from the [1:11:01] Environmental Protection Agency uh that [1:11:04] will allow Utah to avoid sanctions for [1:11:09] failure to conform to federal ozone [1:11:12] standards by recognizing that we don't [1:11:15] have control over internationally [1:11:18] sourced emissions. [1:11:19] >> That's it. [1:11:20] >> Okay. [1:11:21] >> And you did an awesome job. I wanted [1:11:23] everybody on on this executive committee [1:11:24] to make sure they heard that like we [1:11:26] did. Thank you, Ben. Go ahead. [1:11:28] >> Thank you. So, to maybe remind you where [1:11:32] we were. So, last August, we received [1:11:34] direction from this body to solicit for [1:11:36] letters of intent. Those letters of [1:11:39] intent requests went out in September. [1:11:41] They were due back in October. Then we [1:11:43] did a real high level evaluation of [1:11:45] eligibility projects, identified the [1:11:48] projects that were good for our programs [1:11:50] or where those projects would have the [1:11:52] most competitive opportunity. We did [1:11:55] then receive those concept reports by [1:11:58] the middle part of December and began at [1:12:00] that time for project evaluations that [1:12:02] went all the way through and concluded [1:12:04] at that last part of March. When we took [1:12:07] all that information to our technical [1:12:10] bodies and they made recommendations of [1:12:12] other projects that we took to transcom [1:12:15] in April and Transcom reviewed those, [1:12:17] approved those and recommends them to [1:12:20] you. And so that's where we are today in [1:12:22] May. Then we'll prepare that information [1:12:25] from your direction for a draft tip and [1:12:28] then go out with uh for public review [1:12:31] and comment during the month of July. [1:12:33] Then we'll be back. So in the Ogden [1:12:36] area, what did we see? Well, we had 24 [1:12:39] concept reports that were submitted um [1:12:41] of unique projects. There were 28 total [1:12:44] projects being some of those were being [1:12:47] considered in multiple programs, but [1:12:49] there was there were 17 that were [1:12:53] requesting STP funds, six for CMAC, two [1:12:57] for TAP, three for CRP. You could see [1:13:00] the requested amounts there like 69 plus [1:13:03] million in the STP funds where we had an [1:13:06] available amount of 17.5. You can see [1:13:09] how each of those programs are. There's [1:13:12] a total availability of federal funds in [1:13:14] the Ogden Lon area of 25.5 million. [1:13:17] There's a requested amount of 111 [1:13:21] million in the Salt Lake area. 5656 [1:13:26] unique projects requesting more than 235 [1:13:29] million available was 39 plus million. [1:13:33] You can see there were 28 STP, 16 CC, 19 [1:13:37] TAP, 14 CRP. Lot of projects requesting [1:13:41] the funds, a lot of needs along the [1:13:43] area. Well, we prepared the evaluations [1:13:47] went through and there was a whole [1:13:49] myriad of information that we collected [1:13:51] through the concept reports. We [1:13:53] established the data. In that data, we [1:13:55] were able to provide the sheets that are [1:13:58] in your materials for the meeting. We [1:14:00] have on the CMAC program, those that are [1:14:03] highlighted in yellow are the ones that [1:14:05] we'll be talking about. Those are the [1:14:06] ones that were being recommended in the [1:14:08] CRP program. Also, the ones that are in [1:14:12] the yellow that are being recommended. [1:14:13] We have that also for the TAP program [1:14:17] and then also for the STP program. So [1:14:20] those projects there then were [1:14:23] identified as the priorities after going [1:14:25] through all of the data other uh [1:14:28] relevant professional considerations and [1:14:30] the information necessary to identify [1:14:33] the most effective project for the time. [1:14:36] So [1:14:38] out of all of that work then we come [1:14:40] with the recommendation from transcom [1:14:43] seven projects in the agna lane area [1:14:45] totaling 17.8 8 plus million in the Salt [1:14:49] Lake area, 11 projects totaling 24.9 [1:14:52] plus million. So if we were going to [1:14:55] look in your materials, here's the list [1:14:57] of the projects for this the in the [1:15:00] Ogden Leighton area. [1:15:02] Here's the list of the 11 projects in [1:15:05] the Salt Lake area. [1:15:09] So maybe to highlight one of the STP [1:15:12] projects. This is a project up in Davis [1:15:14] County. This was a request from Clinton [1:15:16] City. This is on 2300 North. This phase [1:15:20] two. This is to reconstruct with minor [1:15:22] widening to a narrow two-lane facility. [1:15:26] This will construct curb gutter and [1:15:28] sidewalk as well as make a uniform [1:15:30] crosssection. Estimated project cost was [1:15:32] $8 million. The funds being requested [1:15:35] for this project was $2.5 million and [1:15:39] the recommended amount for this project [1:15:41] was $2.5 million. [1:15:44] Going into the CMAC program, there were [1:15:46] three projects recommended for the Ogden [1:15:48] Lake area for $5 million. Six projects [1:15:52] in the Salt Lake area for $9.6 plus [1:15:54] million. The list of those projects are [1:15:57] right here. The three in the Ogden [1:15:59] Leighton area on top, the six in the [1:16:01] Salt Lake area on the bottom. [1:16:05] An example of a CMAC project that was [1:16:07] recommended. This was one located in [1:16:09] Sandy. This is on 90 90th South. close [1:16:13] to the amphitheater. You can see that [1:16:16] circle right there. This was a project [1:16:18] that was changed during the evaluation [1:16:20] process in a field review and discussion [1:16:23] with the sponsors and with the [1:16:24] department of transportation. The [1:16:26] initial thought was let's put a hawk or [1:16:29] a pedestrian crossing right there [1:16:31] because we have the overflow parking for [1:16:34] the amphitheater crossing the street [1:16:37] over here in the lower parking lot of [1:16:39] the hospital. At nights after the [1:16:41] events, there's 400 plus people that are [1:16:44] just crossing this road at random. [1:16:47] Significant safety issues, but it also [1:16:49] contributes to air quality benefits cuz [1:16:52] cars are stopping. There's not a lot of [1:16:54] movement. But in the review, we were way [1:16:57] too close to that intersection to put a [1:16:59] ped crossing there. So, in discussion [1:17:01] with the sponsor and with the [1:17:03] department, it was suggested that we do [1:17:05] a pedestrian separated facility. So, [1:17:09] everyone went to work quick. We got new [1:17:10] cost estimates and the recommended [1:17:13] project now is an underpass that'll go [1:17:15] into this project. The funds 5.4 million [1:17:19] is the estimated amount to drop a covert [1:17:22] box covert in that. And it was [1:17:24] recommended that we put $2 million in [1:17:27] the CMAC program on this project. [1:17:30] The next project or the next group that [1:17:33] we have is the TAP funds. We had three [1:17:35] million or three projects in the Ogden [1:17:38] Leighton area for a total of 1.3 plus [1:17:40] million. Three in the Salt Lake area for [1:17:43] $2.4 million recommended. [1:17:46] Here's the list of those projects. The [1:17:48] three in the Ogden Lon area there on the [1:17:50] top and the three in the Salt Lake area [1:17:53] there on the bottom. [1:17:56] And project that is being [1:17:59] was recommended here was the SR39. This [1:18:02] is shared use. This is phase two. Phase [1:18:05] one was recommended and approved by you [1:18:08] last year. It's the part that goes from [1:18:10] Harrisville or Harrison Boulevard up to [1:18:13] where the yellow circle is. This [1:18:15] incorporates the area that's covered by [1:18:17] the circle there between Mountain Road [1:18:19] and Whisperwood Development. All of [1:18:22] those people have to come down and walk [1:18:24] on the facility. There's not even much [1:18:26] of a shoulder for them. they are on the [1:18:29] facility when they come down to get down [1:18:31] to the intersection to cross either [1:18:33] doing shopping or wherever else they [1:18:35] might go. The proposed to or the project [1:18:39] estimated costs 523,000 plus funds being [1:18:43] requested were 488,000 plus and it was [1:18:46] recommended the requested amount for [1:18:48] phase two to address a facility to take [1:18:53] them off of SR39. [1:18:57] And then the last program that we have [1:18:59] to look at is the carbon reduction [1:19:01] program or the CRP funds. Two projects [1:19:04] were being recommended in the Ogden [1:19:06] Lateon area for 1.3 plus million. Four [1:19:09] projects in the Salt Lake area for $3 [1:19:11] million. The list of those projects are [1:19:14] here with the two in the Ogden Late area [1:19:16] on top and the four in the Salt Lake [1:19:19] area there on the bottom. [1:19:22] Sorry for going through this. We've got [1:19:24] the copies of the list if you want to [1:19:26] look at them, but let's look at the one [1:19:28] of the projects there in the CRP [1:19:30] program. This is the Vampool program. [1:19:33] very successful program both in both [1:19:35] urban areas. There was allocations for [1:19:38] both urban areas for this. The request [1:19:41] or estimated project cost is 500,000 [1:19:44] that'll purchase 10 new vans in the Salt [1:19:48] Lake area. There was a similar request [1:19:50] for the Agna area for 10 new vans in the [1:19:52] Agna urban area. [1:19:55] the requested amount of funds 466,000 [1:19:58] plus and it was recommended the full [1:20:01] requested amount. So those are the kind [1:20:03] of projects that are in the list that [1:20:05] are included in the materials you have [1:20:07] for your review and your approval and [1:20:10] that's all we have. Commissioner, [1:20:12] >> thank you. Questions for Ben today? Any [1:20:15] council members? [1:20:17] >> Beth, you're waving your you're okay. I [1:20:20] just [1:20:22] >> sorry we were just talking about uh the [1:20:24] urbanized uh zone and the just what that [1:20:27] was implying for UTA moving forward. So [1:20:29] no it's great. Thank you so much. [1:20:30] >> Great. No problem. If there are no [1:20:33] questions, then I'll look for a motion [1:20:35] or or madam chair, let me just make that [1:20:36] motion to approve the recommendation [1:20:38] STP, CMAC and TAP and the CRP projects [1:20:42] added to the draft of the uh 2027 [1:20:45] through 203 2032 STP and CMAC programs [1:20:49] for the draft of the 2028 TAP and CRP [1:20:52] programs as presented. [1:20:53] >> Commissioner, thank you. And Ben, thank [1:20:55] you. Thank you for your presentation and [1:20:57] all the work. We have a motion by [1:20:59] Commissioner Harvey on this. Is there a [1:21:01] second? second. [1:21:03] >> Hood. It was up. Okay, we'll give that [1:21:05] to We'll give that to Mr. Christensen [1:21:08] since [laughter] [1:21:09] since he won't get to make a a motion at [1:21:13] our next meeting potentially. Who knows? [1:21:14] We don't know what things are. I mean, [1:21:16] there's a while. We'll see what happens. [1:21:18] Um, we have a motion and a second on the [1:21:20] table. Is there any discussion to this? [1:21:23] All right. Seeing none, all in favor of [1:21:25] approving. I'm not going to read the [1:21:27] whole thing. Everything that you read, [1:21:29] I'll say I. I I [1:21:32] >> Any opposed? [1:21:36] » Awesome. That that is approved. Thank [1:21:38] you. [1:21:39] >> Mayor, can I just briefly express [1:21:40] appreciation for uh Ben and uh and Wayne [1:21:45] and Fariba and Hugh uh who um lead this [1:21:50] work on our team. Uh and they do it in [1:21:53] really close collaboration with all of [1:21:55] your communities, all of your teams. [1:21:59] um the cities and the counties from UTA [1:22:02] and from UD do this work doesn't just [1:22:04] happen it involves a lot of engagement [1:22:08] uh good professional work um uh a ton of [1:22:13] collaboration and the process proceeds [1:22:16] even though there's far as Ben noted [1:22:17] there are far more needs and demands [1:22:19] than we have funds available the process [1:22:21] proceed proceeds I think and I hope [1:22:23] you'll agree with um not a lot of drama [1:22:28] and a significant amount of trust in the [1:22:30] way that we go about this and that [1:22:32] doesn't just happen. It takes [1:22:33] intentionality of collaboration and good [1:22:34] work. So, uh, nice job and thanks to all [1:22:37] the part for all the partnership. [1:22:39] >> I have a com comment if I may. [1:22:42] >> Please, mayor, go ahead. [1:22:43] >> Oh, yes. I just wanted to um remark on [1:22:46] the underpass at the amphitheater [1:22:48] connecting Ela View Hospital and the [1:22:50] amphitheater. That's an example of uh [1:22:53] well-intentioned planning but working [1:22:55] together there's a better design a [1:22:57] better solution and a a pivot that was [1:23:02] would not have been possible without [1:23:04] that uh effective collaboration. So so [1:23:07] grateful for our partners not only in um [1:23:11] funding but design and innovation and um [1:23:14] vetting best practices. So thank you. [1:23:18] >> Thank you mayor. [1:23:21] Okay, item six. We're going to turn to [1:23:23] our budget committee chair, council [1:23:25] member Amy Winder Newton. [1:23:26] >> Madam Chair, before you do that, [1:23:28] >> yes, [1:23:29] >> unless his Facebook profile is lying, [1:23:32] today is Commissioner Harvey's birthday [1:23:35] and and it's a demarcation from having a [1:23:38] minor's driver's license to over 21 now. [1:23:42] So, I just wanted to point that out. [1:23:45] >> You know, I have not seen that yet [1:23:48] today. So, uh, happy birthday, Jim. [1:23:53] [laughter] [1:23:57] » Well, happy birthday. Yeah. And I hope [1:24:00] you get to do something just [1:24:02] >> more fun than this tonight. [1:24:04] >> Even Even more fun. [1:24:05] >> I know. I like I'm trying to choose my [1:24:07] words carefully, but I hope you get to [1:24:09] celebrate. Yes. [1:24:10] >> I want to see his driver's license. Make [1:24:12] sure this isn't just [1:24:17] [laughter] [1:24:19] Happy birthday. Yeah, thank you for [1:24:21] bringing that to our attention. Yeah, [1:24:23] thank you. All right, uh Council Member [1:24:25] Wender Newton, we're going to turn to [1:24:26] you. [1:24:27] >> Thank you very much. We um have in our [1:24:31] packets the fiscal year 27 WFRC goals, [1:24:34] budget, and unified planning work [1:24:35] program that outline the activities that [1:24:38] we plan to undertake in the fiscal year [1:24:40] of 2027. These materials were were [1:24:43] prepared by staff in coordination with [1:24:45] the budget committee. And you may recall [1:24:47] that these materials were presented at [1:24:48] our March meeting and we authorized [1:24:50] their release for review and comment by [1:24:52] the public and the COGS. Um the budget [1:24:55] committee has then reviewed them again [1:24:57] at our meeting on May 14th and we're now [1:24:59] recommending that the council approve [1:25:01] the fisc year 27 WFRC goals budget and [1:25:05] unified planning work program. Um, so [1:25:08] we'll ask our CFO, Marian Florence, if [1:25:11] she wants to summarize these materials [1:25:13] and highlight the one major addition [1:25:14] that we've added since March. [1:25:21] Thank you. Um, very briefly, this is [1:25:24] where we are in the process. You all saw [1:25:26] this initial budget back in March. Um, [1:25:29] and then we did have public comment. We [1:25:31] didn't receive any public comments on [1:25:33] the budget. Um, and so I wanted to just [1:25:36] briefly highlight the one change that [1:25:39] happened to our budget since March. So [1:25:41] again, this this section of the agenda [1:25:44] is the goals which also have not changed [1:25:47] since March. Um, our overall goals. [1:25:52] There we go. Um, we have three highle [1:25:54] goals and some sub goals under that in [1:25:57] your packets. Um, same as last year. [1:26:00] These are our general high level goals [1:26:02] and the work that we're doing. Um and [1:26:05] then for this coming year, the budget [1:26:08] for the initial budget is just the new [1:26:11] funding that we anticipate having for [1:26:13] next year. And so what we do is we look [1:26:15] at that funding. It comes from also way [1:26:17] back from when Miranda was speaking. [1:26:19] These are the formula funds that come to [1:26:21] us for planning um the planning work [1:26:23] that we do. Um so here are this is the [1:26:27] same presentation I gave you last March, [1:26:30] but I wanted to highlight this one [1:26:32] addition. Byron touched on it. We were [1:26:34] awarded at the end of April the regional [1:26:37] infrastructure accelerator grant. And [1:26:39] what that means from my side of the [1:26:41] table here is that we requested $1.5 [1:26:44] million. We were one of 14 awarded [1:26:48] grants across the country and these are [1:26:50] discretionary grants, federal grants. Um [1:26:53] and we were awarded uh one 150 just over [1:26:58] a million dollars. Um, and that's the [1:27:00] same as all of the other awarded grants. [1:27:03] So they they kind of equalized that [1:27:05] amount across the awarded grants. And so [1:27:08] as Byron already talked about, this is [1:27:10] the next step in our stationary [1:27:12] planning. And so we've had really [1:27:14] generous funding from Go to work on [1:27:17] stationary planning and this is the next [1:27:19] step to make sure that we can work with [1:27:21] specialized consultants who can help [1:27:23] identify the right financing strategies [1:27:25] to move forward to implementation. So, [1:27:28] we're excited about this grant. It [1:27:29] represents, as you can see, um a really [1:27:34] large section of our work for next year [1:27:36] along with continued work on the [1:27:38] activity- based model development. So, [1:27:40] those are kind of our our big efforts. [1:27:42] We always have a couple of big things [1:27:44] that we're working on in addition to the [1:27:46] constant work that we're always doing [1:27:48] here at WFRC. So, these are that is our [1:27:52] big addition, the only change to the [1:27:54] budget since you saw it in March. Um, [1:27:57] and so that makes, as you can see, our federal sources go up above three [1:28:02] quarters for this year because of that [1:28:04] balance shift with that infusion of the [1:28:06] federal grant for next year. So with [1:28:09] that, our recommendation from the staff [1:28:11] and from the budget committee, unless [1:28:13] there are any questions, I'm happy to [1:28:15] entertain questions. Our recommendation [1:28:17] is to approve the goals budget and the [1:28:21] unified planning work program where we [1:28:23] describe all of this work that we're [1:28:24] going to do and put numbers to it for [1:28:27] next year. [1:28:34] So, Madame Chair, if there are no [1:28:36] questions or comments, I would like to [1:28:39] um take action to open a public hearing [1:28:41] to discuss this item. [1:28:45] Thank you. We are now going to open a [1:28:47] public hearing to discuss the WFRC [1:28:48] fiscal year 27 goals, budget, and [1:28:51] unified planning work program. Is there [1:28:53] anyone here that would like to speak to [1:28:55] this item specifically? If so, we will [1:28:57] give you the microphone. [1:29:02] Okay, we're not seeing any, so we'll [1:29:04] close the public hearing uh and turn it [1:29:06] back to you. Thank you. Um, well, I [1:29:10] would like to make a motion that we [1:29:11] approve the fisc year 27 WFRC goals, [1:29:15] budget, and unified planning work [1:29:16] program. Thank you. We have a motion on [1:29:18] the table and we have a second. Any [1:29:20] discussion to this budget? [1:29:25] >> I know it's just good news, right? The [1:29:27] only change is that we got a grant, more [1:29:30] money. It's good. Okay. Uh, seeing none, [1:29:32] all in favor, please say I. [1:29:34] >> I. [1:29:36] >> Any opposed? [1:29:38] That's good news. And that is approved. [1:29:40] Thank you. Back to you, uh, council [1:29:43] member. [1:29:44] >> Thank you. Um, item 6B is our fiscal [1:29:48] year 26 fraud risk assessment. Um, WFRC [1:29:52] has completed its annual assessment of [1:29:54] fraud risk as required by the off by the [1:29:56] office of the state auditor and the [1:29:58] budget committee reviewed this item at [1:30:00] our last meeting. [1:30:03] We remain in the optimal c category of [1:30:06] very low risk, which is awesome, and [1:30:08] that's because of our robust internal [1:30:10] controls and separation of duties, [1:30:12] trained staff, careful policies, and the [1:30:15] transparent structure and processes. So, [1:30:17] we're really happy about that. Um, the [1:30:19] assessment and the memo about this are [1:30:21] in your packets for your review prior to [1:30:23] the required submission to the state [1:30:25] auditor. [1:30:28] >> Thank you. Thank you so much. [1:30:30] Thank you to everyone on the budget [1:30:31] committee for working on this. Marian, [1:30:33] thank you and all the team. [1:30:38] Is that can I I think that concludes [1:30:40] your report, but I want to make sure. [1:30:42] You good? [1:30:42] >> That does. Yes. Thank you. [1:30:43] >> Thank you so much. Appreciate it. All [1:30:45] right. Item seven. We've made it to item [1:30:47] seven. We've got our active [1:30:48] transportation committee may uh update [1:30:50] from Mayor Troy Walker. [1:30:54] >> Thank you. It's great to be with all of [1:30:56] you. Um I'm happy to report um on our [1:30:59] most recent activity related to our [1:31:01] committee and that was the golden spoke [1:31:03] ride. How many of you participated in [1:31:05] this room, [1:31:07] Kate? No. [1:31:10] >> Okay. All over here. Yeah. I was looking [1:31:13] for Mayor Bradshaw, but she didn't [1:31:15] participate. We'll have to work on it. [1:31:17] >> Representative DeFay, you rode. [1:31:19] >> Yeah. [1:31:20] >> Excellent. Um the if you're not [1:31:23] familiar, the Golden Spoke is an annual [1:31:24] ride. This was the ninth annual Golden [1:31:26] Spoke Ride and it was a huge success. I [1:31:29] mean, hundreds of people. I think it was [1:31:30] the biggest I've ever seen it. Um, it [1:31:33] was really awesome. I had 80 riders with [1:31:36] just that signed up and rode with from [1:31:38] our Rotary Park up. So, it was [1:31:40] fantastic. It celebrates the 100 plus [1:31:42] miles um that we have of multi-use [1:31:45] trails stretching from Ogden to Provo. [1:31:48] Showcases all the work of different [1:31:49] agencies and counties. They've created [1:31:51] safe fund trails for everyone to use [1:31:53] along the Wasatch Front. Special thanks [1:31:55] to the Jordan River Commission who was a [1:31:57] primary lead organizer of the nature [1:31:59] center at Paya Okai, I hope I'm saying [1:32:01] that right, for hosting the end of the [1:32:03] ride event along with all the partners [1:32:05] and the volunteers that were there with [1:32:07] aids, you know, providing snacks and [1:32:09] drinks and it was really well attended. [1:32:12] Um, awesome weather, too. It was a [1:32:14] perfect perfect ride. The next update [1:32:16] for you is, and I know you're all aware [1:32:17] of this, is the ebikes versus e- [1:32:20] motorcycles. This line I'm not sure I [1:32:22] agree with that Hugh wrote. [1:32:25] I didn't. The rise of varying electric [1:32:28] mobility devices caused confusion over [1:32:31] what ebicycles are and and the legal use [1:32:34] of the different devices. This is the [1:32:36] part I disagree with. New state [1:32:38] legislation was passed to clarify the [1:32:41] difference and improve safety. I'm not [1:32:43] really sure we've clarified, but uh we [1:32:46] have definitely identified. Um maybe not [1:32:49] clarified. Um anyway, um you all know [1:32:53] about these vehicles that are that are [1:32:55] popping up in lots of communities. And [1:32:57] I'm not talking about regular ebicycles [1:33:00] that people ride and put put their own [1:33:02] effort in. I'm talking about electric [1:33:04] motorcycles that will do north of a 100 [1:33:06] miles an hour um that are fully capable [1:33:08] of, you know, any kind of desert riding [1:33:10] that kids are riding under the age of 13 [1:33:14] in some cases. No helmets all across our [1:33:16] pave trails, dirt trails on our city [1:33:19] streets, um sidewalks. You're right. Um [1:33:22] and so, uh I know we're all meeting with [1:33:25] our police departments and and trying to [1:33:26] figure out how we're going to enforce [1:33:27] this new state law, but there is a new [1:33:29] state law. If you're not up on it, [1:33:30] please let us know. we can get you the [1:33:32] information. There is some good [1:33:33] definitions, but I think enforcement is [1:33:35] still going to be an interesting move, [1:33:37] but we definitely are have some teeth [1:33:39] now to do something about. I hope we all [1:33:40] do. Uh, so stay tuned for that [1:33:42] information. Um, the committees, we're [1:33:44] always looking for ways to help cities [1:33:46] improve their active transportation. And [1:33:49] we're very fortunate in Utah to have a [1:33:51] legislature and a governor that's [1:33:52] committed to trails building. [1:33:55] Unprecedented level of trail building [1:33:56] going on right now in Utah. Um, hats off [1:33:59] to all all all of our elected officials [1:34:02] who value it and are putting money into [1:34:04] it. We're going to all benefit in years [1:34:05] to come. So, anyway, that's my report. [1:34:07] Thank you. [1:34:09] >> Thank you, mayor. Okay, item 7B is our [1:34:13] executive director's report. We will [1:34:14] turn to Andrew, our fearless leader, for [1:34:16] this. [1:34:17] >> Thank you, Madame Chair. I have only one [1:34:19] thing to note today and this is one of [1:34:22] my favorite things that I get to do at these meetings periodically and [1:34:26] that's recognized a milestone for u an [1:34:29] employee and there's just one employee [1:34:30] to recognize today [1:34:35] » and she loves to be in the spotlight [1:34:38] >> uh and that is uh Andrea Pearson our [1:34:41] senior executive assistant for 10 years [1:34:44] of service at WFRC. [1:34:52] And so I I just want to say a few things [1:34:54] about Andrea. Uh I think you probably [1:34:56] get this that Andrea is working mainly [1:34:59] behind the scenes to make sure that [1:35:01] things work smoothly here. Um these [1:35:04] meetings, but beyond just these [1:35:06] meetings, Andrea is is valued by all of [1:35:10] us within WFRC and any of our partner [1:35:13] agencies that work with us. Many folks [1:35:15] come to Andrea to help coordinate the [1:35:18] arranging of various meetings and and um [1:35:21] and I remember uh actually back to [1:35:23] Andrea's interview uh years ago. Um I [1:35:27] knew that that it was going to work out [1:35:29] for us because scheduling is the bane of [1:35:31] all of our existences, right? It's [1:35:32] really challenging. And we we talked [1:35:34] about it and I said, "How do you how do [1:35:37] you do this?" and and her answer was [1:35:39] something um about with being uh polite [1:35:42] to people and nuance and using a crowbar [1:35:45] metaphorically speaking uh to work [1:35:47] things in. Um and she does that day in [1:35:50] um day in day out. Uh I trust her [1:35:53] completely. I value her uh greatly. Um, [1:35:57] and uh, just on a personal note, I'll [1:36:00] say it's funny because um, uh, Andre and [1:36:03] I are of a similar generation and we [1:36:06] have noted before that we could not come [1:36:08] from more different places. I grew up in the heart of New York City and Andrea [1:36:13] grew up in Tensle, Wyoming. How many [1:36:17] people live in Tensle Wyoming? Roughly, [1:36:20] >> uh, less than 400. [1:36:22] >> Okay. And we actually did a fun thing if [1:36:24] we overlay tensely over uh uh uh in a [1:36:27] Google map with New York City just to [1:36:29] like point out how different it is. But [1:36:31] here we are working in partnership [1:36:33] together. So um Andrea, thank you for [1:36:35] your 10 years of service. [1:36:44] » That was well said. U it's it's been a a [1:36:49] great privilege for me to get to work [1:36:50] with Andrea, too. and she hates working [1:36:53] with my schedule. I know she does. I [1:36:55] know she does, but she never says it. [1:36:56] And she's always great and uh uses a [1:37:00] crowbar to find a way to make everything [1:37:01] work. And just appreciate you. We all [1:37:04] appreciate you. Thank you. And [1:37:05] congratulations on 10 years. I'm not [1:37:07] going to ask you to say anything unless [1:37:09] you'd like to. Okay. Just I love you too [1:37:12] much to put you on that spot. So, okay. [1:37:15] All right. Uh our next council meeting, [1:37:17] just by way of calendar, Thursday, [1:37:19] August 27th. [1:37:22] We'll have to talk about that. My son's [1:37:24] getting married that day. Somebody else [1:37:25] might have to conduct this meeting. So, just so you know, um, [1:37:31] >> where are your priorities? [1:37:32] >> Yeah, I know. I was like, yeah, [1:37:36] I just wanted to share one thing that [1:37:38] this is a little bit outside of the box, [1:37:40] but um, roll with me. Right now I'm [1:37:42] currently the chair of Utah Utah ULI [1:37:46] Urban Land Institute and I'm segueing [1:37:49] off of that next month. I'm very [1:37:51] excited. Tai McCutchen is taking my [1:37:52] place and um thrilled um Kristen Cordova [1:37:57] is executive director of ULI and she [1:37:58] sits on the regional growth and um one [1:38:02] of the things that I want to tell you [1:38:03] about is that there's a next generation [1:38:05] of planners out there and they are [1:38:07] taking advantage of what ULI offers [1:38:09] which is the urban plan and we've done [1:38:11] this at Brighton High School and now we [1:38:14] just did one in Bluffell at Summit [1:38:16] Academy and um what these kids are [1:38:20] coming up with when they're thinking about cities and future growth [1:38:23] and how they address all of these [1:38:25] problems is incredible. And I just [1:38:27] wanted you guys to know that we're [1:38:29] looking good on the nextG so far. So [1:38:32] just kind of a shout out for [1:38:35] our next the people coming here that are [1:38:37] going to be in these meetings in 10, 15, [1:38:39] 20 years. So [1:38:40] >> awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. [1:38:44] Unless anyone has anything else. Go [1:38:46] ahead, Mayor. [1:38:46] >> May I say something real quick? Yes. Um, [1:38:48] I wanted to everyone to know if they [1:38:50] didn't know already that our very own [1:38:53] mayor Don Ramsay won an America 250 [1:38:56] government champion award. And yes, [1:39:00] >> thank you. [1:39:01] >> So, [1:39:03] if you hear me refer to her as the [1:39:05] award-winning Mayor Don Ramsey, I plan [1:39:08] to do that for the rest of the year at [1:39:09] least. [laughter] [1:39:10] >> Thank you. And uh, thank you to [1:39:13] everybody who nominated me for that. [1:39:15] came as quite a surprise. I thought [1:39:17] the email was like spam. I thought it [1:39:19] was they were going to be asking me for [1:39:20] money. Hey, you get this award and it'll [1:39:23] only cost you, you know, I mean, I [1:39:24] thought that's what it was going to be. [1:39:25] And I'm reading through it and I'm like, [1:39:26] this seems real. Is this real? And then [1:39:29] I found out that the person who [1:39:31] submitted the nomination was also copied [1:39:33] on that email and it was a name that I [1:39:36] knew. And so, thank you to everyone from [1:39:38] across the region and across the state. [1:39:40] Thank you to WFRC and the League of [1:39:42] Cities and Towns and my city and [1:39:43] everybody else who contributed to that [1:39:44] nomination. It means a great deal. and I [1:39:46] knew nothing about it. So, thank you. [1:39:48] Yeah, thanks you guys. Okay, I need a [1:39:52] motion to adjurnn and we'll be done. So, [1:39:54] moved. [1:39:55] >> All right, all in favor. Okay, we're [1:39:58] out. Thank you so much all of you. [1:40:00] Appreciate it.