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to have you all here. We got uh a few of us in the room and uh a few

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of us online. I'm Mark Shepherd, Mayor

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Clearfield and Chair, and so let's uh

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before we get started doing anything

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else, let's get some introductions and

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going to go around the room and do them,

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and then I'm just going to have Andrea

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just tell us who's online.

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>> So.

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Rosie, you want to kick us off?

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» Hi everyone, Rosie Hernandez, part of

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the admin team at WFRC.

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>> Jordan Chandler, also part of the admin

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team at WFRC.

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>> I am Ted Knowlton, I'm the Deputy

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Director and Chief Planner at WFRC.

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>> Hi, Nicole Berdeaux, Chief Planning and

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Engagement Officer at UTA.

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>> Dan Dugan, Salt Lake City.

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>> Brooke De Sousa, Sandy City.

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» Jim Harvey, Weber County.

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» Andrea Pearson, WFRC admin team.

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>> Andrew Gruber, Wasatch Front Regional

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Council. Welcome.

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>> Wayne Bennion, WFRC staff.

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>> Carlton Christensen with the Utah

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>> Sherrie Bingham, Heber City.

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>> Ben Hewlett, UDOT.

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>> John Crofts, Davis County.

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>> Joe Thomas, Utah Division of Air

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» Uh Tom Jacobson, I'm a Transportation

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» Kelly Lund, Federal Highways. Wow,

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» Yep, push button.

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» Ed Wolford with Federal Highway.

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» Joel Temple, WFRC.

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>> Ben Wasatch WFRC staff.

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» Joining us online today are

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Lauren Palmer, Beth Holbrook, Eric

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>> Well, thank you. It's nice to have

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everybody here. Um appreciate you taking

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your time out of the day to come down

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and join us or join us online.

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committee meeting. Does

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anyone have Everyone had a chance to

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review the minutes? Are there any

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changes, additions?

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>> I move for approval.

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approval. All in favor?

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>> Any opposed? Okay. Minutes stand.

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Um chair's report, really don't have

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anything to announce to you. Although, you know,

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Andrew says, "Hey, you do so much

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nationally, you know, talk about

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stuff nationally." So, I just thought

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I'd mention that yesterday the Senate

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21st Century Road to Housing Act. Um

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massive thing. Uh

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first real substantial housing

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very very good thing. The House will

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um in fact, it passed the Senate on an

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not bad. Bipartisan, bicameral support

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>> What kind of things does it do?

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adding money into anything. It frees up

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it that it delves into, but it really

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frees up

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things without uh takes away a lot of

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the roadblocks to development.

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real problem in in their developing.

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NEPA. So, this will allow things to move

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>> Welcome, Mayor Burton.

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>> And Mayor Fotheringham. All right.

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next item on the agenda is is

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uh public comment. I don't have Do we

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public that is here to comment?

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Andrea, anyone online?

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forward. Um we have a few items today

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in regard to the transportation

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improvement program. The first two are

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regarding amendments to the existing

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TIP. Uh and the last one is Transcom's

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annual opportunity to review the new

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draft TIP. So, we're going to turn the

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time over to Ben

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discuss the board modifications.

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transportation improvement program

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you? Anyway, so I wanted to go review a

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as mentioned by the chair.

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board modification. One is to report on

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the board modification from the regional

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release the draft 2027-2032

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transportation improvement program.

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analysis for public review and comment.

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discuss some significant items on the

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federal, state, and local programs. And

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counties, UDOT, UTA.

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long-range plans, the highway and

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traffic or highway and transit and the

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active transportation that helps us meet

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the short-range needs along the Wasatch

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maintenance of our existing

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transportation system.

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that are new construction, rehab and

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hundreds of millions of dollars,

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thousands of jobs, economic growth and

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mobility and the access, the

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preservation of life and the quality of

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life that we've become accustomed to.

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TIP be financially constrained. In those

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part of our meeting here today. But, the

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that all right to keep going?

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the board modification that the regional

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resolution was included in your meeting

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materials.

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that were reviewed and approved

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into the the draft or into the 26

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when as Ben noted, in months that the

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that Transcom is not meeting, but the

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Regional Council will take action on

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TIP modifications. So, 4A was just in

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your materials. It was a report to you

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of things that the Regional Council did

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at its last meeting. So, we'll typically

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not go over those again here cuz they've

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Council. But, of course, if anybody ever

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modification. This would be the eighth

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board modification to the 2631 TIP that

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was approved last August. We'll go

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through these four projects for your

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review

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and in for your approval.

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So, the first project that we have is a

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project that's located in

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up Weber Canyon. It's Weber Davis County

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areas up there. This is a request from

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UDOT. This is on I-84.

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It's four bridge replacements. There's

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actually two bridges.

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Sorry, well, let me to go back,

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Commissioner.

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So, there's there's two bridges. There's

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a bridge over the the river and there's

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a bridge over two Union Pacific rail

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tracks.

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Um these bridges were built back in 1965

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and they say that they've outlived their

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service life.

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I'm glad that's only pertains to

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bridges.

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That's not that long ago.

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But these two structures here

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have had a lot of modifications done.

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They've had a lot of work done on them,

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but now it's time to replace both these

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structures.

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This project has been going underway,

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but during construction some unknown

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utility work as well as

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some modifications to temporary

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retaining walls

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and then some impacts that have been

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caused because of timing with Union

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Pacific Rail working on and around the

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rail

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caused some project delay.

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So the request for this project

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It's copy of the a picture of the

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bridge. Here's also picture of

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underneath the bridges there.

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Fairly large structures.

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But the request is to add an additional

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$10 million to this project and this

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will give us a total project cost of

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$65.5 million for these structures.

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and these funds

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come from the state transportation

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solution program.

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The next project that we had to look at

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is project this is actually in Salt Lake

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County. This is also request from UDOT.

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This is on I-80.

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And this has been after some recent

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inspection reports

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indicated that there's some bridges

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along I-80 that

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need to be addressed.

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So there's seven bridges in this

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along this facility here.

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And the first three bridges that we'll

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highlight here are bridges that are in

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poor condition due to some deck defects.

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And then the remaining four projects or

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four bridges there

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are bridges that have exhibited some

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deterioration that warrants repairs.

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So, as you're aware the complexity of

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I-80

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um makes it a little more difficult for

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the work to be taking place on I-80.

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And um

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so there's a request here. There's the three bridge decks to replace, the

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other four to have some rehabilitation

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work.

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The request is to add an additional $6

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million to this project given us a total

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project cost of $38 million. Now, the

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part that's exciting here is the UDOT

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Structures Group

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uh was recently awarded some federal

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competitive highway bridge grant money

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of about 28-plus million dollars.

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So, the $6 million that's needed for

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this project will be taken out of these

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funds and then the remaining amount will

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enable UDOT and the Transportation

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Commission to utilize on other bridge

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structures.

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>> Ben.

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>> Yes.

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>> Now, both Bens looked at me, which was

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exactly as I was intending.

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Um

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I'm going to interject just for a moment

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as we're talking about bridges.

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Um and I want to express something that

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Ben Hewitt, Deputy Director of UDOT, and

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Lisa Wilson, who's the other Deputy

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Director of UDOT UDOT said yesterday in

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a presentation to the Transportation

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Interim Committee where they were were

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talking about among other things bridge

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condition and um UDOT's approach to

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managing bridges. All of the bridges are

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safe.

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Right? That's a critical

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um

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uh non-negotiable

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uh element of the way that UDOT does its

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work and they're very actively looking

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at what's needed to maintain the bridges

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in safe condition and be proactive to

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actually save money over time. Good

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roads cost less, good bridges cost less.

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And so what you see periodically is

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updates on work approved by the

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Transportation Commission and moving

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along to make sure that the the overall

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infrastructure stays in good condition.

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Ben?

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Hewitt is nodding. Yes, thumbs up.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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>> Sure, may I ask a question?

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Thank you.

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So this 28 million, is it used only for

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bridges or can it span other projects?

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>> So that that this specific grant was

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for these bridges.

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The yeah, the trickiness of the funding

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is we already had the funding approved

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for the full scope of the project, but

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we were able to go after this grant. So

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we do have to add money from the

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original total cost of this

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group of bridges,

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but it's really um the fact that we got

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the grant, it frees up a bunch of the money. So I

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mean the total is 38. So now instead of

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the

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it would have been 32, I think, before

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that before the $6 million add. Instead

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of the full 32 needing to come from

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our structures funding,

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now 28 of that now 38 comes from the

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grant. So there's only the 10 million

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that comes from the remaining structures

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funding.

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>> The way it keeps dropping that you use

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it.

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>> Yeah.

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>> So

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that's not good. We don't want our

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bridges to drop. We want to span those.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Thank you.

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Thank you, Ben.

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So that that brings us to the second

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table then that identifies two projects.

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And these projects are actually projects

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that are also ongoing that are

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requesting additional funds.

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The first project is in Davis County,

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Weber County. This is on 2000 West or

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3500 West, depending on which county

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you're in, or SR 108. This project is a

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pretty exciting project, a project that

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is

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needed. It goes from 1800 there in

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Clinton.

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It goes up to 4275 South up in West

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Haven.

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So, fairly long

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uh improvement there.

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But, on this project, you can go on to

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the

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UDOT's project website there for this

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particular project, and you can zoom

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right in on the project and see what the

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improvements are looking like. Like if

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we were to zoom in on that intersection,

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there you can see how things all realign

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and reconfigure there through the

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intersection, as well as the

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right-of-way and the widening of the

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roads. Another one there is kind of on

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mainline. I went in and found a

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location there. So, this is taking

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Google Earth and and looking at 108

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there

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at a particular location, and then I laid on top of that

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the improvements, so you can see how

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much

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the improvements to this facility will

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bring to a a two-lane facility with

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wider shoulders

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to a five-lane facility with shoulders,

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curb, gutter, and sidewalk

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paths.

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So, there's a lot of improvements. We

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take that to a five-lane cross-section.

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>> I can't see the bike lanes. Can you

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point those out for me?

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>> Bike lanes would be right there on the

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shoulders, so right under the additional

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funding.

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>> Got you. Thank you.

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>> And so,

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um the widening there will accommodate

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the future travel demand that'll be

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necessary for that, but you're also got

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the improved shoulders, the multi-use

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paths, sidewalks, and then there's a

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pedestrian bridge on 2050 North in

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Clinton that was approved by this body a

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couple of years ago

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um that will be incorporated into this

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project. And so, there's some need for

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additional funding comes as a result of

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the inflation,

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the cost of right-of-way, there's some

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really

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uh utility relocations as well as

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um

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the pedestrian overpass,

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uh there's been a cost increase to that

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structure. So, there's a request to add

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93 million to this project, and that'll

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bring the total project up to 224 plus

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million.

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Those funds come from the state

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investment our transportation investment

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funds are the TIF program.

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The last project that we have is a

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project in Davis County, and this is on

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UDOT's I-15 or this is a request from

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UDOT's on I-15.

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It's the Shepherd Lane Interchange, and

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there's pedestrian overpass.

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So, there's a construction of a new

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interchange

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there at Shepherd,

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and then there's an improvement for

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pedestrian. And so, on this particular

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project, here's just a a review. So,

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you'll see the old Shepherd Lane is that

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little tiny thin line that goes across.

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That's being removed, and then you've

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got a a full diamond interchange that's

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being constructed in that location.

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With the connections to the surrounding

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facilities,

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and then

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down around the Park Lane, we've got the

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pedestrian improvements that are being

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done

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in and around this section. So,

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this project they're requesting

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additional funding also because there's

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been some significant challenges as

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they've been working through the

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construction. They've had soft soils,

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they've had water, um and then there's

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the tight constraints between the

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railroad and the freeway and other

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facilities.

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So, the request is to add another an

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additional 26 million to this project,

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bringing the total project cost to a

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little more than 177 million. And these

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funds are also from the state

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transportation investment funds or the

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tip program. So that's all the projects

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for the board modification, Mr. Chair.

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>> So that really just on the Farmington

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piece just catching up where they're cuz

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I mean the projects are

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pretty close to being done.

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So is it just really just this is what

564
00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:33,080
was short now, so we're backfilling the

565
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,870
copper?

566
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,120
Okay.

567
00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:42,470
any other questions for Ben?

568
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,640
Okay, if not I would uh entertain a

569
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,040
motion to approve the resolution to

570
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,520
modify the 2026-2031 transportation

571
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,480
improvement program as requested.

572
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,240
>> Second.

573
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,160
>> We have a motion and a second. Any

574
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,600
further discussion?

575
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,120
Seeing none, all in favor?

576
00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:57,840
>> I.

577
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,360
>> Any opposed?

578
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:00,400
Okay.

579
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,000
That takes care of that item and then

580
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,160
item 4C, Ben, we'll go back to you for

581
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,880
the release of uh

582
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,160
2027-2032. It's just not as exciting

583
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,160
anymore.

584
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,720
>> Well,

585
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,280
yeah, this this one is pretty exciting.

586
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,920
27-32

587
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,560
sounds like a football play maybe there.

588
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,160
So this is the two

589
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,840
uh there's that a little tip there once

590
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,720
I but this is to release the draft tip

591
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,800
out for public review and comment. So an

592
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,200
opportunity to enable our public to be

593
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,240
involved, to know and understand what's

594
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,000
happening, and to get their input. Um so

595
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,800
when we're preparing the information to

596
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,280
go out for the public review and comment

597
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,040
period, we have those tables that are

598
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,280
the programs that Wasatch Front Regional

599
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,240
Council has responsibility. They're part

600
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,280
of the statewide transportation

601
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,440
improvement program document, but we

602
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,480
also highlight them in our individual

603
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,960
tables that you're accustomed to just to

604
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:02,640
facilitate to be enabled to look at

605
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,280
those projects for the STP, CMAQ, TAP,

606
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,360
and CRP programs.

607
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:10,120
We also list the other projects that are

608
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:13,120
state or other federal funded projects,

609
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,800
and that has all of the tables that

610
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,800
identify those projects that UDOT takes

611
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,280
the lead in programming these projects

612
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,880
with input from the MPOs as well as the

613
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,080
local governments and other agencies.

614
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,680
Then we have those projects that are

615
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,080
funded for the transit type improvements

616
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,800
that UTA takes the lead in the

617
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,640
responsibility of programming those with

618
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,160
the MPO and their local jurisdictions

619
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,120
and UDOT.

620
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,040
Then we also have the air quality

621
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,760
conformity. This is our draft air

622
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,160
quality memorandum determining or it

623
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,880
demonstrates that the conformity

624
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,040
analysis for the 2027-32

625
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,640
transportation improvement program is in

626
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,400
compliance. So, this information is

627
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,560
provided to the public, and it's

628
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,560
available online.

629
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,720
In addition to this,

630
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,720
uh well, maybe let me go back. So, the idea then is today we're meeting

631
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800
it's the 17th of June, amazing, it's

632
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,840
going by pretty fast here, but our

633
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,920
intentions are to request that Transcom

634
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,600
release

635
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,520
the transportation improvement program

636
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,280
for public review and comment beginning

637
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,000
on the 27th of June.

638
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,080
That

639
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,000
public review and comment period then

640
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,160
would go all the way through the 2nd of

641
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,200
August and when it would end. In

642
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,600
addition to those public comment period,

643
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,160
we would have two open houses, one on

644
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,440
the 21st and one on the 28th. We're

645
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,240
looking at having one in the south end

646
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,600
of the valley in the Salt Lake area,

647
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,480
and one up in the Ogden Layton area,

648
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760
probably around the Ogden City or

649
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,000
Lindquist Field. The one in Salt Lake

650
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,520
will be down probably around the B's and

651
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,560
South Jordan.

652
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,000
We also will have where we are planning

653
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,960
to have an online public open house and

654
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,680
that would be on the 30th

655
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,400
of July.

656
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,840
Then we will take that information. We

657
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,200
will bring any other comments or

658
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,000
information that we received during the

659
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,960
public review and comment period to the

660
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,040
technical advisory committees which made

661
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,480
up of the city engineer, public works,

662
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760
and other city officials.

663
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,760
That information then will be discussed

664
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,600
at the TAC meetings and we will bring

665
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,000
that information back to this body which

666
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,560
will meet on the 20th

667
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,640
for your recommendation to the regional

668
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,560
council which will meet the week later

669
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,400
on the 27th.

670
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,800
Once we receive approval of the the

671
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,160
27-32 TIP,

672
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,840
we combine that with UDOT and then it is

673
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,240
submitted

674
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,680
to Federal Highways and Federal Transit

675
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,280
for their review the first part of

676
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,560
September and they have the month of

677
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,760
September to review that information and

678
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,840
then come October 1, we have the new

679
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,640
27-2032

680
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,080
Transportation Improvement Program. But

681
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,840
here's the the exciting part. Back when

682
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,760
we meet in August, we start the process

683
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,600
for the 28-33 TIP. So think of that

684
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,680
number, 28-33.

685
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,440
Another football play maybe. So, what do

686
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,480
you do? Well, you go on and you log

687
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,920
Well, that went fast. You go on Let me

688
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,640
talk faster. Yes.

689
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,320
>> We have a question from council member

690
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,520
Stringham.

691
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,360
Online. Council member?

692
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,000
>> Yeah, I have a quick question. Is there

693
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,320
a reason why we're

694
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:31,920
um

695
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,760
we're having the public comment during

696
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,040
July?

697
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,280
Um that is when people are least paying

698
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,080
attention and least available for

699
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,600
comments and least um connected to

700
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,240
anything going on.

701
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,320
Um I was just curious if there's a time

702
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,880
frame and there's a reason why we're

703
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,480
shooting between and during that time.

704
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,120
>> I I missed half the question. I'm sorry.

705
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,080
>> Oh, go ahead, Wayne.

706
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,800
>> I'll This is Wayne Bedden with WFRC

707
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,760
staff. The

708
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,400
um TIP has to be approved in August to

709
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,080
line up with the statewide

710
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,760
transportation improvement program.

711
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,440
And the preparation

712
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,560
takes

713
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,080
of the TIP takes the rest of the year.

714
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,320
So, it's really a matter of the timing

715
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,440
um needing to of approval needing to

716
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,000
happen in August that's driving the

717
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,320
public comment period being in July. And

718
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,880
unfortunately,

719
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,960
in spite of it being a a challenging

720
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,680
time to get comments or have people engaged,

721
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,200
last year for instance, we had

722
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,760
um

723
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,920
nearly 400 comments, which is

724
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,960
uh significant for

725
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,200
uh for us um

726
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,640
or for this document. So, in in spite of

727
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,680
the obstacles, we are getting lots of

728
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,920
public input.

729
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,520
>> Can I add to that? Um council members

730
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,440
Thanks. I I really appreciate your

731
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960
raising that point. And I'll say we'll

732
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,480
take a look at the schedule, also

733
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,080
um

734
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,240
just to make sure that we're doing

735
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,400
everything we can to make sure access is

736
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,720
uh is as high as possible. So, thanks

737
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,560
for raising that. It's a

738
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,800
Utah between the 4th and the 24th is a

739
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,560
nice time of year,

740
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,360
uh I'll say. Um

741
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,000
and part of This is part of the reason

742
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,120
that we do the online

743
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,840
uh open house as well. So that people

744
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,760
can, if they want, they can access they

745
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,080
don't have to physically come. They can

746
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,640
go from wherever they want. And just to

747
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,360
emphasize, we have the online map so

748
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:36,640
that people don't even have to attend a

749
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,000
meeting at any point during that period,

750
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,320
they can go on the map and put comments

751
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,440
in. And we make an effort to make sure

752
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,720
with us and through our partners,

753
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,680
everybody's communicating about this.

754
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,560
I'm saying all that not to refute your

755
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,600
point. I hear you, we hear you, we agree

756
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,240
with your point. We'll take a look at

757
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,440
the schedule and we work really hard to

758
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,160
make sure people are aware of the

759
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,430
opportunity for comment. Thanks.

760
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,080
» Thank you, Andrew and Wayne.

761
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,120
Ben, back to you.

762
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,480
>> Thank you.

763
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,720
Thanks, Andrew. Thank you, Wayne.

764
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,320
And thank you, councilman. So,

765
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,280
Andrew kind of took some punch right out

766
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,800
of my next card here, but that's okay.

767
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,840
We're going to So, we log on to our

768
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,640
website.

769
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,960
And that that brings us

770
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:27,750
into the the website the time

771
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,270
Is that

772
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Okay.

773
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,960
We go on to the transportation

774
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,560
improvement program page and we're able

775
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,600
to

776
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080
We'll also have access

777
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840
through other buttons like a banner type

778
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,720
that enables that opportunity to access

779
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,120
what Andrew referred to as an

780
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,760
interactive map.

781
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,480
So, this is an online map that enables

782
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,040
anyone anywhere time to sit down and

783
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,400
click on a map or on the map on a

784
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,720
particular project or on a location

785
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,120
where they may have a concern and leave

786
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,720
a comment on whether

787
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560
they have additional information or they

788
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,120
have suggestions and then those comments

789
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,600
are collected and then we will respond

790
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,960
back to them. We utilize them with all

791
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,880
of our partners with the local

792
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,840
governments as well as with UDOT and

793
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,120
UTA.

794
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,120
So,

795
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,320
in that

796
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,520
as we're looking at that document or all

797
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,560
of the projects on the map, so here's a

798
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,720
list of the STP projects that were

799
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,440
reviewed and approved by this body. Two

800
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,440
those projects, if you recall, one was

801
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,200
in Ogden City on 2nd Street. This body

802
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,000
recommended and it was approved by

803
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,920
council $4 million for the improvements

804
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,600
there on 2nd Street. Another one on STP

805
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,880
was in Holiday City on Highland Drive.

806
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,040
This is for a reconstruct with minor

807
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,000
widening. $3 million were recommended

808
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,920
for this particular project.

809
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,680
The tip also are in that document. You

810
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,120
have the CMAQ projects and you'll recall

811
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,440
that there were the eight CMAQ projects

812
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,080
that were recommended for the program.

813
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,120
There was a money

814
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,360
uh recommended and to be programmed on

815
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,040
the the pedestrian bridge there in

816
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,440
Clearfield.

817
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,920
Um there's a money to be programmed on

818
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,680
an intersection improvements there in

819
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Salt Lake City.

820
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,280
And we've got the TAP programs both in

821
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,280
the Salt Lake and the Ogden Layton urban

822
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120
areas and the couple of project examples

823
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,560
there is the North Salt Lake. This is

824
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,640
for missing sidewalk there on Cutler

825
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,960
Drive.

826
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,920
And then there was a project there in

827
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,120
Midvale on Bingham Junction Boulevard

828
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,000
for bike ped pedestrians.

829
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,440
Um 400,000 programmed for that project.

830
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,520
And then

831
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,880
there was the CRP program for both of

832
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,760
the urban areas and those projects

833
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,480
included South Salt Lake had a a

834
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480
neighborhood byway 633,000

835
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,800
programmed.

836
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,400
And then

837
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,000
for vanpool expansion on UTA, there was

838
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,720
some programmed and this indicates that was programmed in Weber County.

839
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,440
There was also an amount programmed in

840
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,000
the Salt Lake. So, that map will

841
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,880
highlight these projects and all that

842
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,200
were recommended by this body, but then

843
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,000
you've also got the capacity projects

844
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,520
that are across

845
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,400
the Wasatch Front in the WFRC area.

846
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800
You've also got projects that identify

847
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,960
the rehab and the maintenance. We got

848
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,800
the safety and the ITS projects.

849
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,680
And then we've got the transit

850
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,510
operations and maintenance.

851
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,040
And then we've got the pedestrian and

852
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,590
bicycle facilities.

853
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,720
So, there's a lot of projects in this

854
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,440
document that affect every one of us

855
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,680
that live along the Wasatch Front. So, I

856
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,520
have an idea.

857
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,560
Councilman, this may be a great way to

858
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,960
do it, too, is to identify time when you

859
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,960
can sit down with your family,

860
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,160
pull up the TV and instead of watching

861
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,680
some romantic or some show on there

862
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,160
like, I don't know,

863
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,200
>> The World Cup. This is even better than

864
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,280
the World Cup, is that what you're

865
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,480
saying?

866
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,720
>> Oh, it makes FIFA look like nothing.

867
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,320
>> Oh.

868
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,240
>> So, this is really

869
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,630
you log on to wfrc.org

870
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,440
and all of a sudden you pull up the um

871
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,280
transportation improvement program. Now,

872
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,720
can you just see the excitement

873
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,720
generated there with your family sitting

874
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,200
around as you pull up the interactive

875
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,960
map and you identify a project and start

876
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,640
to talk about it? I can see memories all

877
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,640
over it. Picture that first day back at

878
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,480
school. What we did for summer was sit

879
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,000
down and watch the TIP on TV as a

880
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,760
family.

881
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,480
>> this is what my family's doing for

882
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Father's Day.

883
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,520
>> Oh, this is pretty

884
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,680
>> Everybody else with me? You with me?

885
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,040
>> No.

886
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,400
>> Yeah, no?

887
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,990
Okay.

888
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,800
» This and this would be a highlight and I would have hearts and stuff coming up

889
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,840
from the But, anyway, you get the idea,

890
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,360
but the public review and comment period

891
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,480
then if it initiates from your uh

892
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,600
direction there on the 27th, we'll

893
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,240
conclude the August 2nd.

894
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:14,399
This gives our public an opportunity to

895
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:16,520
be involved, it gives each one of us an

896
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,159
opportunity to review the projects and

897
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,720
make comments where necessary that we

898
00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:24,120
can utilize as we move forward. Mr.

899
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Chair, that would be all I have.

900
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,399
>> Thank you, Ben. Do we have questions for

901
00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:31,110
Ben?

902
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,080
I don't know if we're uh Oh, yes,

903
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,760
Carlton.

904
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,440
>> Uh maybe more of a comment. I think

905
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,600
between Andrew and Ben

906
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,560
I'm inspired to ask of my adult

907
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,240
daughters when they ask me what I want

908
00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:43,919
for Father's Day to test their love for

909
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:44,888
their father.

910
00:34:44,888 --> 00:34:46,879
>> [laughter]

911
00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:49,480
>> I'm sure I'm sure they'll be joining.

912
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,399
>> That would be cool.

913
00:34:51,399 --> 00:34:52,520
I just don't know, Ben, if we're

914
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,639
supposed to read this as a

915
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,040
2027 2032 HIKE

916
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,920
uh or if we're supposed to sing olé olé.

917
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Go read the tip. I don't know. One of

918
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,360
the two has got to happen here, but uh

919
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,840
if there's no questions for Ben, I would

920
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,000
entertain a motion to release the 2020

921
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,120
the draft 2027-2032 tip and the air

922
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,440
quality conformity analysis for public

923
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,360
review and comment.

924
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,480
>> I move to approve.

925
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,840
>> Second.

926
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,280
>> We have a motion and a second. All in

927
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,360
favor?

928
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,440
>> Aye.

929
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,040
>> Any opposed?

930
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,040
All right. Thank you, Ben. Appreciate

931
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,480
that.

932
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,560
>> Thank you.

933
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,800
>> And well, we all know how critical importance safety is on our

934
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,960
roadways. And so, we have the

935
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,400
opportunity today to hear from Fariba

936
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,840
Sultani

937
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,040
um who's going to share with us

938
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,760
about some safety trends and improvement

939
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,760
projects that have occurred in the

940
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,920
region.

941
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,280
>> Yeah, thank you. Hi, everyone, and thank

942
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,920
you for joining us today.

943
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,480
And um I would like to present

944
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,600
our annual safety report in response to

945
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,280
WFRC Council's

946
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,000
safety goal.

947
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,360
Well, um before looking at

948
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,950
the data, I would like to um

949
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,800
I would like to highlight WFRC's safety

950
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,120
commitment. Uh in WFRC, we believe that

951
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,800
um

952
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,160
uh fatalities and serious injuries are

953
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,600
preventable.

954
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,440
Crashes might happen, uh but we believe

955
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,200
that And transportation system should be

956
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,960
designed in a way that if a mistake

957
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,080
happens, it doesn't bleed into

958
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,680
fatalities or serious injuries. So, to

959
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,280
adopt

960
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,160
this

961
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,790
safety goal, WFRC council

962
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,520
have a goal of decreasing these numbers

963
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,200
by 2.5%

964
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,280
annually, which hopefully will lead us

965
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,910
to the 50% by 2040.

966
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,480
Um

967
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,640
So

968
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,960
Let's look where we are

969
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,200
right now compared to our 2.5% goal.

970
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,720
So, the orange line shows that where we

971
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,000
would be if we were meeting that 2.5%

972
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,160
reduction annually. And the blue line

973
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,520
shows that actually where we are at

974
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,800
right now. As you might see in 2022,

975
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,800
we had a decrease and we were almost

976
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,320
meeting our goal, but after that

977
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,920
unfortunately it the number of

978
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,320
fatalities and serious injuries has

979
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,800
increased.

980
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,920
And

981
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,200
while this is concerning, but it also

982
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,680
highlights that why investment in safety

983
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520
project is really important for us. So,

984
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,960
let's um

985
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,600
look at them separately, fatalities and

986
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,080
serious injuries to see what is driving

987
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,840
this trend.

988
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,160
So, this one shows the fatalities.

989
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,200
Um

990
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,560
The good news is that fatalities have

991
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,640
decreased since 2022.

992
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,440
And in 2025,

993
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,480
it

994
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,400
it's almost um

995
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,520
meeting our goal.

996
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,440
But while we have a um, positive trend

997
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,880
here in fatalities, but um, the s-

998
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,600
serious injuries tells us a different

999
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,320
story.

1000
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,960
Even though we had a decrease in 2022,

1001
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,440
but since then

1002
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,840
um, the number of serious injuries has

1003
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,400
increased substantially.

1004
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,360
And

1005
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,560
even in 2025, I think it's approximately

1006
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,840
like 1,000.

1007
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,240
If I'm not wrong.

1008
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:49,360
So, that's that's why we are uh,

1009
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,960
you know, not meeting our safety goal.

1010
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,120
So,

1011
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,600
um,

1012
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,110
before um,

1013
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,520
moving forward, uh, I would like you to

1014
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,240
scan this code.

1015
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,320
And we will have some questions to

1016
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,920
interact, and do not close the page

1017
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,480
because we'll have another question

1018
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,080
uh,

1019
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,920
coming.

1020
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,760
>> And people online should

1021
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,560
join Slido as well.

1022
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,280
Everybody jump on in. This one's for

1023
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,720
everybody.

1024
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:30,230
Mhm.

1025
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,880
» Oh, just ignore those first those

1026
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,760
numbers because we were testing to see

1027
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,760
if the QR code actually works. So, I

1028
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:44,230
hope that that's not misleading you.

1029
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,760
The numbers should change while you're

1030
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:54,697
answering.

1031
00:39:54,707 --> 00:40:05,430
» [laughter]

1032
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,840
» Friba, you just read out the question.

1033
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,080
For the record also.

1034
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,040
>> Um, well, the question is which of the

1035
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,520
following factors do you think is the

1036
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,160
biggest contributor to fatalities and

1037
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,320
serious injuries in what such front

1038
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,110
area.

1039
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,880
Is it a speed involved? Is it

1040
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,280
intersection involved? Roadway departure

1041
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:38,870
involved? Pedestrian involved or others?

1042
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,040
Oh.

1043
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,680
Did everybody enter their answers? Okay.

1044
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,880
So,

1045
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Oh, it's changing.

1046
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,960
Okay, the first one based on our

1047
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,880
responses, it says it's speeding

1048
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,920
involved with

1049
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,400
more than 50%

1050
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,560
Right? Let's see what the data shows

1051
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,590
compared to our perception.

1052
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,680
So,

1053
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,440
looking at this figure, this figure

1054
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,560
shows um the number of fatalities and

1055
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,960
serious injuries in what such front area

1056
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,320
in 2021 through 2025.

1057
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,760
What immediately stands out is that

1058
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,760
intersections intersection involved uh

1059
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,160
crashes

1060
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,480
are the highest um you know,

1061
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,640
crash contributor. Near it it's nearly

1062
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,040
2,400

1063
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,960
crashes.

1064
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,360
And um

1065
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,800
following by roadway departure involved,

1066
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,040
motorcycle involved, and speeding

1067
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,720
involved also has a significant share,

1068
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,160
but it's not the number one as we

1069
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,200
thought it might be the number Yes.

1070
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,440
>> What this tells me is that we need to

1071
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,800
increase the speeds and also increase

1072
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:06,950
the number of flyovers.

1073
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,520
» For how many

1074
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,760
Do we know

1075
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,320
how many of those incidents are multiple

1076
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,440
related? So, I mean you've got

1077
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,400
intersection involved,

1078
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,480
but not speed. Was there speeding and an

1079
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,360
intersection involved, or were they I

1080
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,920
mean speeding through an intersection?

1081
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,160
Um

1082
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,000
Was there a motorcycle in the

1083
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,080
intersection?

1084
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,360
>> Yeah. That That's a very good question

1085
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,360
because research shows and we also know

1086
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,320
that there is not just one um risk

1087
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,680
factor for, you know, one There's not

1088
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,840
just an exclusive reason for the

1089
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,320
crashes. It might be multiple, right?

1090
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,240
But the data that we have right now

1091
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:51,960
is it is um like these categories, but

1092
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,640
we can um

1093
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,440
talk to you about further because I'm

1094
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,600
sure they have more detailed

1095
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,400
uh data, so we can investigate more and

1096
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,560
to see

1097
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,560
uh and provide more answers.

1098
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,040
>> Thanks. My answer is when people like

1099
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,760
Jim Harvey are texting through

1100
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,320
intersections.

1101
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,480
>> Well, but I mean I asked that in in, you

1102
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,320
know, because that it says there's an

1103
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,040
intersection involved, obviously, but I

1104
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,600
mean Commissioner Harvey brings up a a

1105
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,840
good point. I mean it's If we're saying

1106
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,160
that our accidents aren't caused because

1107
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,280
of speed, then

1108
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,960
that you know, I mean that very few of

1109
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,720
those, you know, fatalities or serious

1110
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,240
injuries are caused from speed, but

1111
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,280
they're caused from intersections.

1112
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,960
Well, then speeding's not that big of a

1113
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,280
deal. And so, I mean that would send the

1114
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,720
wrong message, I I worry, to to a public

1115
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:37,920
that would look at that and say, "Oh, so

1116
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,800
speeding's not the problem. You keep

1117
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,360
telling me to to start to stop speeding

1118
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,480
and to put on my seat belt, but those

1119
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,960
aren't the issues. It's being in an

1120
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,480
intersection. So, I just need to avoid

1121
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,720
intersections, and then I'm okay."

1122
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,080
>> Yeah. Well, that's a very good point.

1123
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:52,440
Yeah.

1124
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,160
>> Can I

1125
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,720
Furiba, can I respond to that?

1126
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:55,120
>> Yeah, of course.

1127
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,080
>> I think that the message that I would

1128
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,920
take away from this is that um

1129
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,960
everything you see on this chart

1130
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,560
is a significant issue when it comes to

1131
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,640
transportation safety. Um speeding is

1132
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,520
the number four leading risk factor. As

1133
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,240
you look at all of these all of these

1134
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:19,520
things are are notable, and so therefore

1135
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,960
we need to take an approach that tries

1136
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,440
to tackle all of these issues. The thing

1137
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,600
that as Fariba noted that jumped out to

1138
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,720
us when we looked at this data

1139
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:30,520
is that intersection, and it could be a

1140
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,680
combination with distracted driving or

1141
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,000
combination with speeding, but the

1142
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,640
number one standalone risk factor is uh

1143
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,360
crashes um uh and fatalities at

1144
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,160
intersections. So that really stands out

1145
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,920
to us as a as an important thing as we

1146
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,480
try to address these issues.

1147
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,760
>> And that makes sense, and I would fully

1148
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,840
expect that UDOT has

1149
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,040
better

1150
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,520
you know, more detailed information in

1151
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,800
there. I I mean, I know my police

1152
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,280
department does. They'll tell me if it

1153
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,720
was in an intersection and if they were

1154
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:00,360
speeding. They've got both of those

1155
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,160
things which are then reported to UDOT,

1156
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,000
so it would it would just be good to see that, you know.

1157
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:06,480
>> Yeah.

1158
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,720
>> It does sort of beg the question,

1159
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,640
is there something we can do with our

1160
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,920
intersection design, right?

1161
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,880
>> Yeah.

1162
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,040
thank you. Well, that was uh the

1163
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,480
regional uh data analysis,

1164
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,000
uh but we all

1165
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,720
we know that uh regional trends don't

1166
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,440
always tell the whole the whole story.

1167
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,960
So now let's see what um your

1168
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,440
communities tell what what concerns they

1169
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,760
raise

1170
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,360
um

1171
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,720
you know, most often.

1172
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,840
And again, ignore those two

1173
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,040
answers. We were just testing. So

1174
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,000
and

1175
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,400
yeah.

1176
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,920
>> Well, the question The question is what

1177
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,880
safety risk factors do you hear

1178
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,240
residents raise concern about most

1179
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:39,550
often?

1180
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,560
» Let's see.

1181
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,280
Okay, this um table

1182
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,640
um is from CSAP, Comprehensive Safety

1183
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,640
Action Plan.

1184
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,280
And um so the risk the risk factors were

1185
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,320
ranked uh with one as the highest

1186
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,480
risk to 12 as the lowest.

1187
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,120
And um

1188
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,480
one

1189
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,440
the the first three ranks are

1190
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,880
highlighted in orange, you can see.

1191
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,520
And this is uh WFRC's area.

1192
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,720
And

1193
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,400
as you can see, intersections

1194
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,080
are ranked as the

1195
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,960
you know, the first risk factor nearly

1196
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,920
for all of our areas.

1197
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,120
So

1198
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,080
um

1199
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,000
this consistency that intersections are

1200
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,680
problem or less not as an issue as

1201
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,600
safety issue regionally and

1202
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,320
subregionally is

1203
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,800
uh really interesting to, you know, look

1204
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,080
at.

1205
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,200
>> So for Reba, across the top there, the

1206
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,560
blue it within the red box, those are

1207
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,960
different sub portions of the Wasatch

1208
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,880
Front from Southern Box Elder and

1209
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,160
Western Weber to

1210
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,720
uh Northern Davis to Eastern Salt Lake,

1211
00:47:57,720 --> 00:47:59,120
etc.

1212
00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,400
>> Yes.

1213
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,280
>> And as you all can see,

1214
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,400
this point about intersections, it's

1215
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,200
basically the number one risk factor in

1216
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,670
almost every portion of the region.

1217
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,080
» Yeah, thank you, Andrew.

1218
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:20,120
Um, well, the good news is that our

1219
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,560
community are already working on their

1220
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,160
safety issues. And um, in 2025,

1221
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,640
we had, uh,

1222
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,680
seven, uh, safe streets for all grants

1223
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,040
awarded. We had three highway safety

1224
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,560
improvement, uh, program

1225
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,320
awarded. And also communities, they

1226
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,360
completed, uh, us approximately 75

1227
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,240
safety improvement projects.

1228
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:51,230
And um,

1229
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:54,320
so, uh, moving forward, what does this

1230
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,760
all tell us about? Um, as you saw,

1231
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,840
intersections are a serious, um,

1232
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,520
risk factor in regional and subregional.

1233
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,680
And the good news is that, uh, many of

1234
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,240
these intersections are owned and

1235
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:13,080
operated by local

1236
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,800
jurisdictions, which means you have

1237
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,120
control in improving the safety of this

1238
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,920
intersec- intersections. And in WFRC, we

1239
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,480
encourage you to use our CSAP report,

1240
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,360
uh, to you know, to

1241
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,880
and work with your staff to figure out,

1242
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,480
uh,

1243
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,000
where those risky areas are. And also,

1244
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,840
there are, you know, there are, um,

1245
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,080
state, local, and federal, uh, funds

1246
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,960
that you can apply for and use that to

1247
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,920
improve, uh, the safety of your areas.

1248
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:53,000
And if you go to our, uh, CSAP page, um,

1249
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,760
Erlene, can you scroll that and scroll

1250
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,240
down?

1251
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:57,600
We have maps.

1252
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,280
If you go to um

1253
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,960
GIS section,

1254
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:11,470
as an example, let's go to map three.

1255
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,310
It's okay.

1256
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,550
Here we go.

1257
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:24,070
And if we zoom in,

1258
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,990
a little bit

1259
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,040
Awesome. Thank you, Jordan. So, if you

1260
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,520
look at here, for instance, those purple

1261
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,000
dots are showing the higher risky

1262
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,560
intersections. So, you can take

1263
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,080
advantage of this map and um work with

1264
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,200
your staff and prioritize

1265
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,360
your intersections and apply for funds.

1266
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,720
And if you have any questions or if you

1267
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:51,800
need assistance, we are we would love to

1268
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,680
help you at WFRC.

1269
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,200
And um that concludes my presentation.

1270
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,280
And thank you all. And we would like to

1271
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:06,710
take questions if you have any.

1272
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:07,880
» Okay. Well, thank you, Fariba.

1273
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:08,960
Appreciate that.

1274
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,560
>> Thank you.

1275
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,440
>> Fariba, thanks. Wayne, can I put you on

1276
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,400
the spot just for 1 minute? Fariba was

1277
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,000
helpfully sharing

1278
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,280
the comprehensive safety action plan.

1279
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,320
Just remind everybody for a minute,

1280
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,080
where did that comprehensive safety

1281
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,880
action plan come from and what's the

1282
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,720
data that's in there,

1283
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:27,800
you know, that that Fariba was pointing

1284
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,920
out. I want to make sure that people

1285
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,680
understand where that came from, so the

1286
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,120
validity of it as we go forward.

1287
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,200
>> You bet.

1288
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,760
Um

1289
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,320
some of you will recall, but some of you

1290
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,040
have joined Transcom since then. Uh

1291
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,240
Transcom actually took action a year 2

1292
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:49,120
years ago in April uh to approve that

1293
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,960
comprehensive safety action plan and the

1294
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,480
data

1295
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,960
that's behind it was

1296
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,000
2018 to 2022.

1297
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,240
Um

1298
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,800
and the fact that

1299
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,200
not only did the data include crash

1300
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,080
history, but it also identified risk

1301
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,200
factors at both intersections and

1302
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,960
roadway segments.

1303
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,000
Um those risk factors unless

1304
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,160
improvements have been made are still

1305
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,880
present. So, the data is actually pretty

1306
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,480
current, pretty relevant

1307
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,840
in terms of identifying risk factors

1308
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,400
for opportunities to make safety

1309
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,200
improvements.

1310
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,960
>> Thanks, Wayne.

1311
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,520
Well, we're grateful today to have

1312
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,520
Blaine Leonard here to talk to us about

1313
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,600
a current applications of connected

1314
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,920
vehicle technology in Utah.

1315
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,720
Blaine is UDOT's transportation

1316
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,720
technology engineer and I will say he is

1317
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:49,360
a nationally recognized expert in this

1318
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,880
field and uh

1319
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,080
Blaine, we're going to go ahead and turn

1320
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:58,710
the time over to you and educate us.

1321
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,520
» Is my mic on?

1322
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,950
Is your mic on?

1323
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,120
» Blaine, is your mic on? There's the

1324
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,680
green button on there. Turn the green

1325
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:07,240
light.

1326
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:08,240
>> It is now.

1327
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:08,960
>> Okay.

1328
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,360
>> Thank you.

1329
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,840
I I appreciate the opportunity to be

1330
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,520
here. I made a presentation to the TAC

1331
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,760
committees a few weeks ago and Wayne

1332
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,960
suggested that I come here and give you

1333
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,880
the same presentation basically and talk

1334
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,000
to you a little bit about a program we

1335
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,600
have going on at UDOT that that

1336
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,360
addresses a variety of things. Some of

1337
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,880
the Some of this program addresses

1338
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,880
safety, some addresses um mobility improvements and so we just

1339
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,320
want to sort of introduce this to you

1340
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,600
and talk you through it. Wayne made me

1341
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:38,920
promise that I would have you out of

1342
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,360
here by 4:00 so you could beat the

1343
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,520
traffic. Um, just kidding.

1344
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,560
Um,

1345
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,640
So our program is built around a

1346
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,480
technology called vehicle-to-everything

1347
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,040
or connected vehicles. And the concept

1348
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,600
here is that vehicles have on them

1349
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,920
in our program, a specialized rate

1350
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,240
short-range radio system that allows it

1351
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:03,600
to connect with the roadside, the

1352
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,000
traffic signal or a device along the

1353
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,440
roadside, a similar radio on the

1354
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,760
roadside. Um, it can also enable these

1355
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,360
vehicles to talk to each other, although

1356
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,160
we haven't really ventured there yet.

1357
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,080
Um,

1358
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,240
and and this is a program that was

1359
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,880
envisioned by uh the US DOT back in the

1360
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,600
1990s.

1361
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,560
Um, and it's been sort of evolving, the

1362
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,280
technology's been evolving ever since.

1363
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,360
Um, our long-term goal with this program

1364
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,000
is safety. The idea here is that if the

1365
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,600
vehicle driver, whether that driver is

1366
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,440
human or not, the vehicle driver can get

1367
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,520
information that they can't necessarily

1368
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,160
see, they can make better decisions. Um,

1369
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,080
we sometimes call this technology a

1370
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,200
digital seatbelt. You all have a

1371
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,720
seatbelt in your car. I hope you use it

1372
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:54,400
all of the time cuz it saves lives. It

1373
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,600
saves your life in a crash. The concept

1374
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,480
with this technology is that it helps

1375
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,440
you prevent the crash in the first

1376
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,480
place.

1377
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,400
If you know that someone's about to run

1378
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,080
a red light and you can take evasive

1379
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,600
action or you're about to run a red

1380
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,040
light and it can help you slow down etc.

1381
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,120
Um,

1382
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,200
this can prevent the crash. Now, for

1383
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,480
this to be truly effective from a safety

1384
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,680
standpoint, we need this technology in

1385
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,440
everybody's cars.

1386
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,200
Um, they're doing this in Europe,

1387
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,240
they're doing this in China, they're not

1388
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:26,080
doing this in the US yet. There's a long

1389
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,280
story behind that. Um, but one of the

1390
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,800
things we're trying to do is work with

1391
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,440
the auto makers and convince them that

1392
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,760
there's value here and that there's

1393
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,600
enough of an infrastructure out there to

1394
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,720
justify them putting this equipment in

1395
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,480
the cars. So, in the meantime,

1396
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,040
we've been focusing on some practical

1397
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,200
mobility applications

1398
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,480
to justify us building this system, get

1399
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,960
benefit from this system, so that we're

1400
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,920
a little more ready when the automakers

1401
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,040
decide to put this in their cars. So,

1402
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,440
our our initial focus was on improving

1403
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,640
transit performance, and then we've

1404
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,240
moved into improving snowplow

1405
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,760
performance and emergency vehicle

1406
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,760
performance, which also gets us into the

1407
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,360
safety realm.

1408
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,480
So, we're leveraging the system to

1409
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,760
demonstrate safety features.

1410
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,120
Um we've got a few vehicles that are

1411
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,480
equipped to show those, um and we're

1412
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,520
focusing on interoperability across

1413
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,640
jurisdictions.

1414
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,640
As I describe this technology, you may

1415
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,400
say to yourself, "Well, there's other

1416
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,200
technologies that accomplish this same

1417
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,080
purpose." There is, um there are.

1418
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,040
The difference here is that this is

1419
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,120
interoperable. When we install this

1420
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,960
statewide, this technology works in Salt

1421
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,240
Lake City as well as it works in Moab,

1422
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:43,160
right? And a vehicle going from one

1423
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,600
place to the other gets the same

1424
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,480
benefit. So, we're we're focused on this

1425
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,160
long-term focus of safety, but we're

1426
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,160
building for current success in the

1427
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,520
shorter term.

1428
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,920
Now, here's what the technology looks

1429
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,520
like. On the roadside, and this is a

1430
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,080
traffic signal up near Park City, um on

1431
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,880
the roadside, we install

1432
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,320
my slide sequence is a little odd here.

1433
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,760
Oh, something's missing. Okay.

1434
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,920
On the roadside, we install a roadside

1435
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,080
unit. Maybe it's Oh, it's just really

1436
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,640
tiny text. Sorry about that. This is a

1437
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,760
V2X radio. It hangs on the side of of

1438
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,720
the luminaire above the pole in most

1439
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,120
cases. It's about this big with some

1440
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,600
antenna sticking out of it. It's a

1441
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,240
short-range radio of a in a certain

1442
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,160
spectrum. Um

1443
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,440
And and then we wire that down into the

1444
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,360
signal cabinet and connect it to the

1445
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,160
signal controller, the computer that

1446
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,520
runs the traffic signal, and we put in

1447
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,160
there a signal command module. It's a

1448
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,600
little Linux computer board that goes in

1449
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,520
the cabinet that does the thinking for

1450
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,760
the system.

1451
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,160
We then put a similar device in the

1452
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,440
vehicle. This little blue box is on a

1453
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,200
shelf of a UTA bus. UTA's been our

1454
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,720
partner in this program since the

1455
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,320
beginning when we started deploying in

1456
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,920
2015.

1457
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,040
Um and that's on the uh shelf in their

1458
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,400
electronics cabinet behind the driver.

1459
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,480
Uh this is actually this one here is

1460
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,160
actually mounted in

1461
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,560
the frunk of an electric Ford F-150, and

1462
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,360
then it has an antenna mounted somewhere

1463
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,720
on the top of the roof. So,

1464
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,680
the vehicle is sending data to the

1465
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,680
roadside, and the roadside is sending

1466
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,600
data back to the vehicle.

1467
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,000
And this these these little pieces of

1468
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,840
data are small, but they're frequent.

1469
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,240
So, the vehicle that's equipped is

1470
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,120
sending a little blip of data to the

1471
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,680
roadside 10 times per second.

1472
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,160
And the and the signal is sending back

1473
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,960
several messages. Some are 10 times per

1474
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,120
second, and some are once per second.

1475
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,880
That's because if you're moving at

1476
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,120
highway speed, a tenth of a second makes

1477
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,680
a lot of difference. So, we need to get

1478
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,920
this information quickly. It needs to be

1479
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,200
really low latency. If we're going to

1480
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,320
prevent a crash, we need to get that

1481
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,080
data to you in less than three tenths of

1482
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,280
a second.

1483
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,760
Um so you can so you can respond. Now,

1484
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,200
as this vehicle is sending data to the

1485
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,000
roadside, it's anonymous data.

1486
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,160
It's talking about where the vehicle is,

1487
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,640
what it's doing, how fast it's going,

1488
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,360
but there's no make, model, VIN, plate,

1489
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,000
color, any of that. It just says, "I'm a

1490
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,880
vehicle, and I'm 6.2 m long."

1491
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,920
And and the rest of it's um just about

1492
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,000
vehicle movement.

1493
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000
>> Plan, maybe you're going to maybe you're

1494
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,040
going to get to this, but how many

1495
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,680
of these full units are installed?

1496
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,200
>> I'll get there.

1497
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,240
>> You'll get there. Thank you.

1498
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,880
>> you, Andrew. I'll get there. Um so so

1499
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,080
just to give you a big picture overview

1500
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,280
of what the program looks like, we

1501
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,320
prepared this little video. Um we didn't

1502
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,600
have enough money to hire a real

1503
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,600
narrator, so we've got a bad narrator,

1504
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,240
but um this

1505
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,120
as we've developed this program over the

1506
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,840
years, most recently we've been awarded

1507
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,760
a federal grant that we call Connecting

1508
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,960
the West, and so that's why a lot of

1509
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,920
this stuff is branded as Connecting the

1510
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,280
West. Uh but here's a little overview of

1511
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,400
what the system does.

1512
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,080
>> Connecting the West [music] is about

1513
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,960
building a safer, smarter transportation

1514
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,760
network across Utah, Wyoming, and

1515
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,120
Colorado. We're using LiDAR at

1516
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,920
intersections [music] to detect people

1517
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,720
in real time and alert drivers instantly

1518
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,470
to their presence.

1519
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,600
Think of it like a second set of eyes

1520
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,120
watching out for [music] people crossing

1521
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,240
the road. The moment someone enters the

1522
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,880
crosswalk, the system sends an alert

1523
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,121
straight to the driver. That's the power

1524
01:00:26,121 --> 01:00:29,040
[music] of real-time connected safety.

1525
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,000
We're equipping essential vehicles like

1526
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,800
buses, [music] fire trucks, and snow

1527
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,640
plows with technology that talks to the

1528
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,200
traffic signals. This helps keep transit

1529
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,760
on time, improves emergency vehicle

1530
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,400
response, and makes Utah's roadways more

1531
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,400
efficient during critical moments.

1532
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,840
>> As a student, my schedule is super

1533
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,560
packed, so having a bus that comes every

1534
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,240
6 minutes is really [music] great. It's

1535
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,520
really nice not having to worry about

1536
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,920
driving or parking. The bus is always

1537
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,440
there when I need it.

1538
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,680
>> Our goal is to make every trip, whether

1539
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,040
you're walking, riding the bus, or

1540
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,147
hauling freight,

1541
01:01:02,147 --> 01:01:02,200
>> [music]

1542
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,840
>> smarter and safer. And we're doing it by

1543
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,120
connecting vehicles to the

1544
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,042
infrastructure that they move through.

1545
01:01:08,042 --> 01:01:08,200
>> [music]

1546
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,760
>> This future of transportation is

1547
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,400
connected, and it's happening now, right

1548
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,320
here in the West. Utah, Colorado, and

1549
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,160
Wyoming are leading the way, [music] and

1550
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,600
we hope to see other states follow. This

1551
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,400
is not just innovation, it's

1552
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,920
implementation, [music]

1553
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:29,950
and it's making a difference today.

1554
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,277
» Yeah, thank you.

1555
01:01:32,277 --> 01:01:34,430
>> [clears throat]

1556
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:35,840
» Connecting

1557
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,440
Okay, so

1558
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,520
um in this Connecting the West program,

1559
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,080
we're expanding the footprint of our

1560
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,360
deployment. Um so, in this program,

1561
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,360
we're adding another We're adding these

1562
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,760
roadside units to another 480

1563
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,320
intersections UDOT owned intersections

1564
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,120
in the state of Utah. That gives us over

1565
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,000
1,200 intersections that has this

1566
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,680
technology on it. That's 91% of all of

1567
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,000
the signals that UDOT owns. And we've

1568
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,440
got a couple other programs that'll help

1569
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,120
fill in the gaps. This program is adding

1570
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,960
215 onboard units to vehicles, and that

1571
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,600
will give us a total of 740 to Andrew's

1572
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,680
question. We have 100% of UTA buses

1573
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,160
equipped with this.

1574
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,000
And I say we've got 100% of UDOT plows

1575
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,920
We might be be missing two or three, and there's plows in like Moab that

1576
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,920
don't need this. But um 100% of the

1577
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,760
plows that plow snow are equipped this

1578
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:28,560
way.

1579
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,120
>> So, a follow-up to that, Blaine. Thank

1580
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,960
you. 91% of UDOT owned signals and um

1581
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,840
you know, for the cities and counties

1582
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,880
that are here, how does that apply to

1583
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,280
signals that are on city and county

1584
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,280
roads?

1585
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,480
>> So, um in addition to the UDOT owned

1586
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,800
signals, um we've worked with a number

1587
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,400
of the cities in the state, and we've

1588
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,160
equipped their signals. So, [snorts]

1589
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,480
um every signal in the city of Orem is

1590
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:53,920
equipped. Every city in the city of

1591
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,800
Logan is equipped. Um all three signals

1592
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,160
in the city of Brigham City are

1593
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,040
equipped. Um and we're talking with

1594
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,720
about three or four other cities right

1595
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,880
now about expanding the program. One of

1596
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,480
the things we're kind of looking for,

1597
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,720
and I'll talk about this in a second, is

1598
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,040
um since we've equipped all of UTA's

1599
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,400
buses,

1600
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,160
um we want to make sure that the core

1601
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,920
routes those buses travel on um have

1602
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,640
this capability. Some of those routes

1603
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,760
are in Salt Lake City. And we haven't

1604
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,120
yet sort of

1605
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,160
broken into Salt Lake City, but we're

1606
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,080
really close.

1607
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,800
>> Thank you. I just want to say how much

1608
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,360
we appreciate working with you at UTA

1609
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,280
and um about Salt Lake City, we um Salt

1610
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,160
Lake City got a grant on Second South

1611
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,040
and maybe uh Council member Dugan can

1612
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,280
speak to that, but we've worked with

1613
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,560
UDOT to get that implemented and we're

1614
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,760
excited to see that as well as uh

1615
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,120
working with you on some other uh

1616
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,480
connected vehicle automa- autonomous

1617
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,120
vehicle infrastructure. So, UDOT's been

1618
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,320
a great partner and this makes a big

1619
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,200
change in how fast and how we deliver

1620
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,360
our buses. So, just wanted to say we're

1621
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,600
excited for Salt Lake to take on that

1622
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,560
first uh dive into uh

1623
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,120
connected vehicles. So, thank you.

1624
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,360
>> Yeah, Salt Lake City's definitely very

1625
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,000
excited about the uh in this in the

1626
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,680
signal priority zation uh and this is

1627
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,320
you know, our step on Vision Zero on

1628
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,600
making our roadway safer across the

1629
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,400
board in 200 South, we have a lot of

1630
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,720
buses. I think within 7 and 1/2 minutes

1631
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,280
going to the university back and forth

1632
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:29,960
and they're always full and we need to

1633
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,520
make that that that route very efficient

1634
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,120
for the buses and the and the vehicles.

1635
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,200
So, this is the this is awesome. Yeah,

1636
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,840
and I want to keep on moving forward.

1637
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,240
>> about We've been talking to the Second

1638
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,760
South team for a while. Um frankly, the

1639
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,440
one thing that's still holding us up

1640
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,080
from getting all of that done is just an

1641
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,160
agreement, a legal agreement. And it it

1642
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,840
goes back and forth and it sits in my

1643
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,120
attorney's office for weeks and then it you know, it's you

1644
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,640
know how those go. But, uh any influence

1645
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,160
you have there is good. Um cuz we're

1646
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,920
excited to to be able to do that. Um

1647
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:01,920
and and get that involved.

1648
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,120
>> So, are you saying that when over here

1649
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,000
when the bus comes to the intersection,

1650
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,600
the light turns green for the bus and

1651
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:08,920
it's no flower?

1652
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,520
>> not quite. So, um and I've got a later

1653
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:12,960
slide about this, but that's a great

1654
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,000
question. There are There are two

1655
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,800
different technologies involved here. We

1656
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,280
call it connected intersection

1657
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,440
preferential treatment. You don't need

1658
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,600
that term. Transit signal priority and

1659
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,040
emergency vehicle preemption. So, in

1660
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,680
transit signal priority, the UTA bus is

1661
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,040
a smart bus and it knows how far behind

1662
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,400
schedule it is. As it approaches an

1663
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,680
intersection, if it's 5 minutes behind

1664
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,040
schedule or more, it then sends a

1665
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,800
message over this radio system to the

1666
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,800
roadside and says,

1667
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,280
"I'm behind schedule. Can you give me a

1668
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,840
little extra green?" The traffic signal

1669
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,280
controller, the computer system, thinks

1670
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,960
through that and goes, "Well, where am I

1671
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,760
in my cycle of red, yellow, green? Can I

1672
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,000
start green in a few seconds early? Can

1673
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,680
I make green last a little longer to try

1674
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,080
to help the bus?" And every intersection

1675
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,360
is a little bit different, but that's

1676
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,880
the goal is to is to extend the green

1677
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,040
time and try to get the bus through.

1678
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,600
Now,

1679
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,200
clearly there are a lot of factors

1680
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,680
involved there and it may not help the

1681
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,120
bus. I mean, the bus may have may get

1682
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,600
through on its own without that

1683
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,520
extension. It may be pulling up right as

1684
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,840
the red has already started and there's

1685
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,360
nothing the signal can do about that.

1686
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,200
But But the request is there and the

1687
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,720
controller tries to move it through.

1688
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,760
On an emergency vehicle, fire engines,

1689
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,320
ambulances,

1690
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,040
or a snow plow,

1691
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,680
if the ambulance and fire engine have

1692
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,440
their lights on, they're responding to

1693
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,400
an incident, the plow is actually

1694
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,760
plowing,

1695
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,040
it says to the signal, "I need a green."

1696
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,720
And the signal tries to just turn it

1697
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,160
green. So, that's preemption. It

1698
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,280
preempts what's going on and turns it

1699
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,400
green.

1700
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,480
Now,

1701
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,440
you got a follow-up?

1702
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,611
>> Yeah, how do I get one?

1703
01:06:50,611 --> 01:06:52,000
>> [laughter]

1704
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,480
>> Give me a call. Yeah.

1705
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,000
>> Um Salt Lake City.

1706
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,960
>> Um

1707
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,440
Preemption and priority systems have

1708
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,960
been around for 50 years. You can go buy

1709
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,640
an off-the-shelf off-the-shelf system

1710
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,640
that does this and some of our cities

1711
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,400
have done that. Um

1712
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,360
the difference in this particular system

1713
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,720
is if you go by a system, A, you're

1714
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,280
paying for the whole system including

1715
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,600
what's going on the roadside equipment,

1716
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,600
and B, it's confined to your

1717
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,040
jurisdiction.

1718
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,880
Since this is a statewide system and

1719
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,440
we're installing all the roadside

1720
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,920
equipment, um a city that participates

1721
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,600
in this program, A, doesn't have to

1722
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,000
spend the money for what's on the

1723
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,480
roadside,

1724
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,440
and B, um

1725
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,640
if an ambulance from West Valley City

1726
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,000
needs to transport a patient to downtown

1727
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,200
Salt Lake or to Murray, well, they get

1728
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,440
preemption on those signals, too.

1729
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:51,360
And and we've um I we've equipped the emergency vehicles in um Wasatch

1730
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,000
Fire District in Heber. They frequently

1731
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,480
need to transport to Provo or Salt Lake

1732
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,920
City. When they get into our roads on

1733
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,560
those in those places, they're getting

1734
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,080
preemption there, too.

1735
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,920
So, that's that's one of the real

1736
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,040
benefits of this system is this

1737
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:10,040
interoperability across the state.

1738
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,040
Um you saw in the video um what we call

1739
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,640
vulnerable road user warning sites. Um

1740
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,720
uh and and we're starting to install

1741
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,640
lidar on all of our intersections. All

1742
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,480
of our intersections have radar and have

1743
01:08:23,480 --> 01:08:26,799
had for 25 years. Radar detects where

1744
01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:28,640
the vehicles are. There's no reason to

1745
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,319
have a left turn light if there's no car

1746
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:33,200
in the left turn lane, and radar tells

1747
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,839
it things like that.

1748
01:08:34,839 --> 01:08:36,640
We've discovered and Mark Taylor, our

1749
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,319
signals engineer, is the mastermind

1750
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:41,000
behind this. We've discovered that lidar

1751
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,240
is now just as cheap as radar and gives

1752
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,720
us a lot more data. Specifically, the

1753
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,520
lidar sees people.

1754
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,160
Radar does not.

1755
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,120
The lidar and you saw in if you noticed,

1756
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,400
you saw in some of that video little

1757
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,560
images and you could see the pedestrians

1758
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,759
and bicyclists moving around. So, the

1759
01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:00,040
concept we've got in this program is the

1760
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,600
lidar tells us where the pedestrian is.

1761
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,200
The lidar tells us where the vehicle is.

1762
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,960
The vehicle's in a right turn lane and

1763
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,279
the pedestrian's in one of those

1764
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:12,240
crosswalks. We can we can do a warning

1765
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,120
that there's a potential collision

1766
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,080
there.

1767
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,120
So, um this is a fair

1768
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,160
that piece of the program is fairly new,

1769
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,040
but we've got um

1770
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,839
we've got some focus there.

1771
01:09:22,839 --> 01:09:24,680
Um the other thing, and this may not be

1772
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,319
as important to you, uh we've also we've

1773
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:28,400
also a

1774
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,279
equipped we put these roadside units

1775
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:31,920
along our freeways.

1776
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,839
Uh and we we've got about 200 360 of

1777
01:09:34,839 --> 01:09:37,759
these on interstate freeways and some of

1778
01:09:37,759 --> 01:09:40,720
our rural roads, US 6, 89, those kinds

1779
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,040
of places. And we've been cooperating

1780
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,960
with Colorado and Wyoming in this grant

1781
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,279
who um

1782
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:49,960
who already have roadside units on some

1783
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,680
of their freeways. Colorado added

1784
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,520
another 50, and now we have this loop of

1785
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,640
Interstate 80, Interstate 25, Interstate

1786
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,480
70, Interstate 15 with coverage of

1787
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:03,040
RSU's. The the focus here is to be able

1788
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,760
to provide messaging to a trucker for

1789
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,920
instance about a road closure, about a

1790
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:13,160
work zone, about a weather event. And we're still kind of working on those

1791
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,760
interoperable traveler messages, and you

1792
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,960
saw in the video um

1793
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,640
Luke Braegger with um a trucking company out of um northern

1794
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,200
Davis County. Um he's one of the

1795
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,840
trucking companies we're working with to

1796
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,720
try to pull this off.

1797
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,040
Um

1798
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,080
So, here's what we do with the system.

1799
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,680
The other advantage to this system over

1800
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,480
an off-the-shelf priority preemption

1801
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:39,160
system is it does a lot of other things.

1802
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,720
Off-the-shelf priority preemption system

1803
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,200
isn't isn't going to give you warnings

1804
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,720
about a pedestrian in the crosswalk.

1805
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,320
It's not going to send you a message

1806
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,480
that the road is closed on I-80 in

1807
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,680
Wyoming, that there's a lane closure

1808
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:55,520
because of a crash or construction. And we're trying to put all of that into

1809
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,640
messaging that can get sent to the cars.

1810
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,160
Now, very few of the vehicles we've

1811
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,840
equipped have that capability cuz we

1812
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,480
need to get some kind of a display in

1813
01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:05,440
the vehicle. We're kind of working on

1814
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:07,560
that, but um

1815
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,920
we're also about to have delivery of a

1816
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,160
vehicle from General Motors that will

1817
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,400
have a lot of this stuff in it that

1818
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,160
we'll be able to use for demonstrations

1819
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,480
and testing.

1820
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:19,040
Um

1821
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,440
I think I talked about it. So, I just

1822
01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:23,560
have one final slide. Um I mentioned

1823
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,040
that we've equipped the Brigham City

1824
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,160
signals, and we've equipped the fire

1825
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,080
engines and emergency vehicle and and

1826
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,240
ambulances up there. A little over a

1827
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,720
year ago, Brigham City had a had a

1828
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,000
crash. They had an ambulance

1829
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,200
transporting a patient was involved in a

1830
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,720
crash at an intersection. Speed was

1831
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,240
probably involved.

1832
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,080
Um

1833
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,640
and it and it totaled their ambulance.

1834
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:47,920
Now, you're from cities, you know what

1835
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,160
ambulances cost, a lot of money. And

1836
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,360
someone one of their staff was injured

1837
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,000
in the crash. So, they called us. Uh

1838
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,560
they worked through our region, region

1839
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,080
one up in Ogden, and they got in touch

1840
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,160
with us and said, "Isn't there something

1841
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,600
we can do

1842
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,400
to try to make passing through

1843
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,920
intersections with an ambulance safer?"

1844
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,520
And we told them about this system, and

1845
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,520
they said, "Okay, we want in." So, we

1846
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,480
worked with them and got this done. A

1847
01:12:11,480 --> 01:12:13,360
couple of weeks ago, we did a press

1848
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,640
event up there, and the local media

1849
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,480
covered it, and some national articles

1850
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:20,240
covered it. We equipped um all of their

1851
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,360
emergency vehicles uh with this

1852
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,000
equipment, and their signals and our

1853
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,840
signals were already Utah signals were

1854
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,720
already equipped in the area.

1855
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,840
Um and so, they now have preemption

1856
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,280
capability on those vehicles, and

1857
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,160
they're just really excited about that.

1858
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,080
Um

1859
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,560
So, although some of our safety goals

1860
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:42,000
are a little bit more elusive, this is a safety benefit that that we

1861
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,720
can realize today with this system. Um

1862
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,280
>> So, Blaine, how does you know, you

1863
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,120
mentioned cities and and Brigham picking

1864
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,720
this up?

1865
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,200
How do do do other cities, especially

1866
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,560
outside of Salt Lake, you know, Valley

1867
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,350
join in?

1868
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,160
» Each one's been a little bit different.

1869
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,160
Um

1870
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,640
uh earlier on before this particular

1871
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,840
Connecting the West Grant, uh we had

1872
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,240
another federal grant where we said

1873
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,680
we're going to reach out and involve a

1874
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,320
municipality or two. And so we looked

1875
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,240
around and talked to our traffic signal

1876
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,960
people and we had a list of criteria,

1877
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,280
size and sophistication of staff staff

1878
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,120
and some other things and and we

1879
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,960
initially approached Orem.

1880
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,840
And we said to Orem, "Here's what we're

1881
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,720
trying to do. Do you want to play in

1882
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,640
this sandbox with us?" And they said,

1883
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:30,760
"Yes."

1884
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,920
Um and then a little while later, we

1885
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,640
were looking for a smaller city um and

1886
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,480
approached Logan and just kind of got

1887
01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:39,840
there. Since that time, the cities we're

1888
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,280
working with

1889
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,480
well, other than Salt Lake City, we

1890
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:46,040
approached Salt Lake City directly. But the other cities we're working with

1891
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:47,720
approached us. They've come to us and

1892
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,000
said, "We're interested in doing this.

1893
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,840
Uh how do we how do we get engaged?" And

1894
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,560
we start that conversation. Um so um

1895
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,960
we're we're interested

1896
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,720
in jurisdictions that think this would

1897
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,840
be useful. Again, some jurisdictions

1898
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,160
already have one of these off-the-shelf

1899
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:04,520
systems and they don't want to go to the

1900
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,400
trouble of you know, replacing that.

1901
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,800
They get good service out of that. They

1902
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,920
don't want to do that. Others, you know,

1903
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,680
just um

1904
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,120
don't want to go down this path. We

1905
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,000
talked to a to a smaller city in in the

1906
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,160
western side of of uh Weber County and

1907
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,280
they um you know, they said, "We only

1908
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,360
have like one signal and our plows are

1909
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,360
usually on on rural roads with stop

1910
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,120
signs and we just don't see a value for

1911
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,200
us." Great. That's fine.

1912
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,960
Um we did work with the Weber Fire

1913
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,240
District though and um

1914
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,760
I think we have all theirs equipped now.

1915
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,080
Weber Fire District, I think.

1916
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,320
Um I can't keep them all straight, but

1917
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:40,280
yeah.

1918
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,760
So so if a city's interested, um give me

1919
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,920
a call and we'll start the conversation.

1920
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,400
Okay. Thank you. We'll do.

1921
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,190
>> Carlton.

1922
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,640
Wayne, thank thank you. I echo

1923
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:53,720
um

1924
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,600
Nicole's comments. It certainly helped

1925
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,480
the reliant

1926
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:01,480
reliability of our bus service.

1927
01:15:01,480 --> 01:15:04,240
Couple questions for you and they are

1928
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:05,600
tied a little bit to the prior

1929
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,520
presentation. Uh if intersections are

1930
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,720
biggest safety issue and the deployment

1931
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,600
of the lidar could be part of that

1932
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,400
resolution, it also makes me wonder if

1933
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,400
some of the grant funds that uh improves

1934
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,520
intersection safety, are those could

1935
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:24,960
they be used

1936
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,880
to deploy some of that um especially in

1937
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,720
some of those higher risk intersections?

1938
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,880
Um and then the kind of the second part

1939
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,720
to that would be

1940
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,280
uh

1941
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,680
do you think um like

1942
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,360
uh

1943
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:39,920
when you talk about a warning system

1944
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,280
inside cars, strikes me like if like an

1945
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,440
Android Auto or you know, one of those

1946
01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:47,160
that you just plug in your phone and it

1947
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,720
goes, but somehow integrated into the

1948
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,960
uplink in that display, so you're not

1949
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,320
having to recreate displays or what

1950
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,400
people normally use. Is that in the

1951
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,360
realm of possibility and are those

1952
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,440
discussions at all taking place?

1953
01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:04,840
>> Uh yes to all of the above. Um but yeah,

1954
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,920
thanks Carlton. Um so, let me start with

1955
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,520
the first question. Um our traffic

1956
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,880
signals group is really bullish on

1957
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,680
lidar. And um by the end of this year,

1958
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,880
they'll have lidar as a detection

1959
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,360
technology at probably 100 of our

1960
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,800
traffic signals or 120.

1961
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,160
And their five-year goal is to have this

1962
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,400
at all of UDOT's traffic signals. Now,

1963
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,080
that's just for lidar detection for the

1964
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,320
signal, right? And that's UDOT

1965
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,200
intersections, not necessarily the

1966
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,000
cities. Uh but we are absolutely happy

1967
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,200
to share how that technology works and

1968
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,680
any city that wanted to invest in doing

1969
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,440
that on city intersections, Mark would

1970
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:42,520
be just delighted to to work with you

1971
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:43,960
and show you how that works, and get

1972
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,360
that done. Um

1973
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,880
as we've experimented with the warning

1974
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,680
side,

1975
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:51,520
um

1976
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,240
Mark says to me, "Well, why don't you do

1977
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,240
more than 20 intersections?"

1978
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,560
And and and I say, "Well, it is kind of

1979
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,000
what we committed in this grant. This is

1980
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,560
what we're going to do, but we could. We

1981
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,840
could do If we If we pinpointed

1982
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,400
intersections

1983
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,800
um that had some high risk, we could do

1984
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,200
more

1985
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,160
um

1986
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,160
light RV RU safety at those

1987
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:13,680
intersections.

1988
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,040
Again, part of the trick is most

1989
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,360
vehicles don't have the warning in them.

1990
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,160
Um we've got a few intersections where

1991
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,080
we've actually put up some some blank

1992
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,080
out signs on the mast arms,

1993
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,400
um where in addition to the connected

1994
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,680
vehicle side of this, a sign would

1995
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,920
illuminate that says um yield to

1996
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:35,800
pedestrians on right turn, that kind of

1997
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,760
thing. And we're we're just kind of

1998
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,320
trying to figure out if that's helpful,

1999
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,920
if that's useful. Uh we got to study

2000
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,280
that a little bit, but we're we're kind

2001
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,400
of headed down that path. Now,

2002
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,760
um to your second question then,

2003
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,800
um and I'm I'm I'm trying to figure out

2004
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,680
how to do this without getting into

2005
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,040
way more geeky detail than you want. Um

2006
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,920
connected vehicle technology has two

2007
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,320
sides to it. The first side is what we

2008
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,400
call direct V2X, and that's what we're

2009
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,080
using here. And it uses these wireless

2010
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,120
technologies to communicate directly

2011
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,800
between each other in a free federal

2012
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,080
spectrum.

2013
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,120
Um and the key to that is that it's

2014
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,560
really fast.

2015
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:15,920
And as I said a few minutes ago, if

2016
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,560
we're going to prevent a crash, we need

2017
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,080
that information to get to you in less

2018
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,240
than 3/10 of a second, which is why we

2019
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,880
use that technology. The second side is

2020
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,200
called network V2X, and it uses the cell

2021
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:27,400
system.

2022
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,560
And so, um there are a lot of companies

2023
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,400
out there selling products, um and some

2024
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,800
of you may have some of their products

2025
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,760
that they cuz they and they sell some of

2026
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,320
that to like the um emergency vehicle

2027
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,520
community, right? To fire departments

2028
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,280
and stuff.

2029
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,080
And and it but it leverages it leverages

2030
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,640
the cell network.

2031
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,880
One of the reasons we haven't gone there

2032
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,560
is cuz the cell network's not fast

2033
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:51,480
enough.

2034
01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:53,800
You've you've gotten a text that was

2035
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,200
sent 8 seconds ago, right? And And

2036
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,360
that's just not fast enough for our

2037
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,840
purposes. For a lot of the warnings we

2038
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,560
would like to give,

2039
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,520
that is fast enough and we could use

2040
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,880
that. And I've talked to a couple of

2041
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,320
vendors about marrying our direct V2X

2042
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,160
capabilities with some kind of a of a

2043
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,240
system that that would then put it into

2044
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,920
people's Android or Apple phone inside.

2045
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,160
We just haven't gone there yet.

2046
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,680
Partially it's bandwidth. I've got a

2047
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,400
really small team and we're so focused

2048
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:23,360
on this,

2049
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,640
we we just haven't gone there, but that

2050
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,920
technology's getting a little better and

2051
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,040
there will come a time when we'll

2052
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,280
probably start to think about how to do

2053
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,560
that more effectively.

2054
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,560
Um

2055
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,120
The other thing we worry about in this

2056
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,120
whole scenario is

2057
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:39,640
we want to be able to warn the driver

2058
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,680
but not distract the driver.

2059
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:42,880
So we don't want to encourage them to

2060
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,040
use their cell phone.

2061
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:46,880
And and so we keep thinking about that

2062
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,280
and we just we just keep hoping that

2063
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,320
Ford and GM and Nissan and Stellantis

2064
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,320
will put this in their cars and kind of

2065
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:54,680
solve that problem for us, but we're not

2066
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,400
quite there yet. But but you raise a

2067
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,200
great point and there there there are

2068
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,400
companies that do that. Um

2069
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,880
And and I was just at a conference last

2070
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,400
week and some of them were talking to me

2071
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,640
about about that marriage. There's a

2072
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:11,640
security issue involved. There's a cost issue involved, right? Um

2073
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:12,880
somebody's got to pay for that cell

2074
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,640
service.

2075
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,080
I could ramble on about that for a long

2076
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,560
time, but thanks for the question.

2077
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,790
Anything else?

2078
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,360
Oh.

2079
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,080
>> Got something we're doing. Sim- similar

2080
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,480
topic and going back to the the safety

2081
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,120
presentation and the intersection and

2082
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,040
speeding and pedestrians.

2083
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:30,960
Uh

2084
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,840
I've been personally just kind of pushed

2085
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,080
to try to get uh uh

2086
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,840
This is a great program that's uh

2087
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,600
supports everybody, but we also have the

2088
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,040
driver that's involved, and we have a

2089
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,520
lot of intersections that uh people just

2090
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,040
blown right through.

2091
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:47,520
Red light

2092
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:48,760
Red lights are blown through red lights,

2093
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,240
or they're just jamming up the

2094
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,000
intersection because they're trying to

2095
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,240
get through the light because it's a

2096
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:54,600
long light, and so they want to make

2097
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:55,600
sure that they get through the light,

2098
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:56,800
and then then they clog up the

2099
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,920
intersection, which then causes more

2100
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,600
inefficiencies, and then causes also uh

2101
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,280
potential for more accidents, especially

2102
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,280
with pedestrians who are doing the same

2103
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:06,440
thing.

2104
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:08,120
And so, I've been trying to push it

2105
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,400
through, and the state's not uh been

2106
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,200
uh

2107
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:13,760
helpful in this regard, but it's just

2108
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:14,880
really trying to

2109
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,040
work with the other cities to push for

2110
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,160
some

2111
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,880
testing of red light cameras in their

2112
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,000
areas, and just putting them on the

2113
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,360
cameras, they can take Europe

2114
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:26,720
I got a ticket when I was in Europe in

2115
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,920
1998

2116
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,760
from a red light camera, and it was a

2117
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,280
clear picture of me going through the red light.

2118
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,520
Right? Actually, it was my friend. I'm

2119
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:37,960
just saying it was me. It was my friend

2120
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,560
in my car because they it came to me

2121
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,080
because it was my car,

2122
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,320
but it was him.

2123
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,280
And that was

2124
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,800
28 years ago, and we don't have it here.

2125
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,400
And we And I'm just trying to push that

2126
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,440
for us to get that in our state. And I

2127
01:21:52,440 --> 01:21:53,840
know there's been some difficulties

2128
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:55,720
there, but I'm looking for cities to

2129
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,040
kind of like, "Hey, how can we push our

2130
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,320
legislators to test it in our cities,

2131
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,400
put on cameras, we give the car light,

2132
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,160
there's no There's no uh picture of a

2133
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,920
person, it's just the back of the car."

2134
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,840
>> I think that's probably the the right

2135
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,440
answer in getting that cuz I mean, it's

2136
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:11,320
been to the legislature. They've turned

2137
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,560
it down and turned it down, but I think

2138
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,680
a city volunteering and saying, "Let us

2139
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:16,640
be the guinea pig."

2140
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:17,400
>> Yeah.

2141
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,480
>> And being willing to foot that portion

2142
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:21,040
of the bill to stop that.

2143
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:21,640
>> Yeah.

2144
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,160
>> I think it would uh

2145
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,320
>> Yeah, that's that's That's what we're

2146
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:25,840
trying to do at our end. It's just that

2147
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,080
uh you know, this is a constraint that

2148
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,120
every city has right now is a budget

2149
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:31,640
that we just we all just passed.

2150
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,040
>> Well, Lake doesn't have a budget

2151
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,787
constraint. Come on.

2152
01:22:35,787 --> 01:22:36,280
>> [laughter]

2153
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,800
>> So, but I just urge the rest of you to think about that and then maybe we

2154
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,640
can get some motion across the board.

2155
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:42,680
So, thanks.

2156
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:43,800
That's my sales pitch.

2157
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,150
>> Thanks, Dan.

2158
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,640
» Uh Blaine, thank you. One question.

2159
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,920
Would it be helpful for those around the

2160
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,520
table, WFRC, UTA

2161
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:57,880
to

2162
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:02,600
help and let our municipal partners know

2163
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,600
about this and, you know, think about

2164
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,240
which cities have

2165
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,400
Frequent bus lines

2166
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,640
that could be aided or which cities have

2167
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,040
particular intersections that have a lot

2168
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,720
of injury and fatality

2169
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,280
and do a little bit of targeted outreach

2170
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,200
or would that get in the way of your

2171
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,160
team? Just help us understand that.

2172
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:27,480
>> I guess it depends on what you mean by

2173
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:29,120
targeted outreach. We're always

2174
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,760
interested in knowing who's interested.

2175
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,720
Right? So, if there are municipalities

2176
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,920
or locations, people say, well, you

2177
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,600
know, that would work well here. We've

2178
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,400
looked at UTA's bus lines. We know where

2179
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,960
the high priority routes are um and and

2180
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,400
are and are trying to get to some of

2181
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,320
those, most of those. Um we've we've

2182
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,160
done Cache Valley Trax Connect Transit

2183
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:49,360
in Cache Valley. We're talking to High

2184
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:50,400
Valley.

2185
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:55,280
Um but but absolutely, if the word gets

2186
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,680
spread, here's a program you could jump

2187
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,600
into with these benefits, we'd be happy

2188
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:00,760
to hear about that. We're happy for

2189
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,560
people to talk that up. If if that's

2190
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,800
kind of where you're going.

2191
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:06,600
Yep.

2192
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,790
>> Council member?

2193
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,200
» Thank you. My question is, do you or

2194
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:13,800
your team have the capability or

2195
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,040
bandwidth to maybe give a presentation

2196
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,040
to a city council um and the

2197
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,800
administration on this program?

2198
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,400
>> Absolutely.

2199
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,120
My wife says, you shouldn't say that.

2200
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,280
You're too busy already." Absolutely. We

2201
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,960
would we we love to talk about this.

2202
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:29,560
>> Okay, thanks.

2203
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,080
>> But yep, happy to come out and

2204
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,040
>> Could reach out to you?

2205
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:32,440
>> Yep.

2206
01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:32,760
>> Okay.

2207
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,040
>> Yep.

2208
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,840
>> Blaine, I'll I'll thank you so much.

2209
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,000
I'll pick up on what Ted was asking you

2210
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,600
and and

2211
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,160
perhaps what we can do is a little bit

2212
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:46,320
of follow-up to this is work with you

2213
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:47,920
Wayne,

2214
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,240
we can coordinate with the League of

2215
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,200
Cities and Towns. It it may and I I know

2216
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,080
you have VDOT has dialogue with the

2217
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:55,400
League as well.

2218
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,240
You probably don't want to be deluged

2219
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,640
with

2220
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,040
requests to which you'll have the

2221
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,360
opportunity to say absolutely. Um

2222
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,280
and there's also funding limitations,

2223
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,440
but but to work and you're working

2224
01:25:08,440 --> 01:25:10,760
through a lot of this, but to partner

2225
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,080
with you between the MPOs,

2226
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,760
municipalities, and VDOT in a way that's

2227
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,880
productive to reach the goal of having

2228
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,600
this technology omnipresent.

2229
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,040
Um you know, in a roll that out in a way

2230
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,520
that a collaborative way seems like it

2231
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,160
would be productive. So, if you're if

2232
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:27,280
you're willing, we could have some of

2233
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,480
that dialogue as we I know you are. We

2234
01:25:29,480 --> 01:25:30,880
could have some more of that dialogue as

2235
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,240
we go forward.

2236
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:32,760
Thank you.

2237
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,360
>> Okay, thank you.

2238
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:35,760
Thanks again, Blaine. We appreciate it.

2239
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,760
Well, that brings us to the uh

2240
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,040
the end of our our meeting. Our next

2241
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:41,880
meeting is August 20th.

2242
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,800
And uh so same bat time, same bat

2243
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,400
channel. And we need a motion to

2244
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,750
adjourn.

2245
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,000
We're done. Thank you, everybody.