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Good. Hello everyone

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. Good morning. Welcome

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to the Regional Development Committee

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. Today is

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Thursday, August 20, 2026,

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and the time is now 9:19

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AM. I would like to welcome

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everyone. We will start with

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introductions, then Andrea will call

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on the attendees to

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introduce themselves

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online. My name is Tammy

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Chan and I am from

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Ceysville. Hello

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everyone, I'm Andrew

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Gruber. Welcome to WFRC

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, whether you are attending in

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person or

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online.

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Andrea Pearson from the

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WFRC management team.

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Lauren Palmer, Mayor of

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Herman.

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Kate Bradshaw, Mayor of

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Bounty Falls.

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Yoni Gruber, Mayor of Fruit

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Heights.

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Heidi Hammond, Mayor of

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Grantsville. Mary Doohe,

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Mayor of Clinton.

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Jason Brown,

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CEO of Envision

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Utah. Bill Herth from WFRC.

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Jordan Chandler from the

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WFRC management team.

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Good morning everyone.

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I'm Rosie Hernandez, and

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I'm part of the

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management team at WFRC.

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I'm Jeff Silverstern, an

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intruder. I have not yet been appointed to

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this position, but I am a

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member of the Utah Transportation Commission

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, a

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former president of the WFRC, a

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former mayor, and a friend of ours.

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Welcome back,

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Jeff. We are delighted to have you with us

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. Nicole

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Berto, from UTA.

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Good morning. Jenny

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Wilson, from

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Salt Lake County.

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Bla Velro,

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Morgan County Commissioner.

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I am Lauren Camallo. I never

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know what position

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I hold here, but I am the vice

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president of this group.

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I am the Davis County Commissioner

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, but I

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actually represent the Utah

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County Association on this council

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. Good morning. Ted

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Knowlton. I am the deputy

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director here at WFRC and the chief

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planner.

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Good. And those who join

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if you wish to

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unmute, please introduce

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yourselves. We have

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Professor Reid Eung and

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Mayor Christy

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Overson.

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Yes. Red Ewing.

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Good morning. Kristy Overson

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, Mayor of Taylorsville. Then

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two employees,

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Meg Baden and Johnny

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Nardon. And

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Madam President, we

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also have many

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members of the public and

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other partners listening

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online. Good.

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Do we need to leave

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Jori Donner, Director of

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Long-Term Planning,

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WFRC.

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Andrea Olsen,

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UDOT planning.

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Paul Aguilera, planner, WFRC

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. Cameron is responsible for

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the facilities of cities and towns.

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Heather Montgomery,

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Salt Lake County.

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John A. Nardon, WFRC.

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Utah Transportation Authority.

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Faroltani, an employee at WFRC

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. Ironhead, an employee at

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employee at WFRC.

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Joel Temple, an employee at WFRC.

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Hugh Wagon, an employee at WFRC.

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WFRC. I didn't receive the notification. I had to

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Tiffany, you've just joined us

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. Would you like to

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introduce yourself?

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I apologize for the delay.

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Tiffany, the

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public relations officer, please

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come in. No one but you.

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Good. Thank you all. The first

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item on our agenda

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is to take action on the

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minutes of the RGC meeting

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held on 21 May 2026.

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Do we have a proposal

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to approve it?

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Proposal to approve

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the minutes.

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Thank you, Mayor

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Bradshaw. Good.

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Thank you, Mayor

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Palmer. Does everyone

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agree? Okay,

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that's good, right? Good.

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So, the next item is

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audience comments. Is

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there anyone in the room who

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would like to comment? Do

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you have three minutes? Is

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anyone from the

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audience here? no.

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Good. Is anyone

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online?

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No one is online

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, raise your hand.

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no one. Good. So, we don't have

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. So, we will move on

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to the President's report. I

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have a few points I would like to

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discuss. To begin,

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I would like to share my

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perspective from when I

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first became mayor, in order to

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understand the role of the

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West Florida Regional Board of Governors (WFRC)

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in regional planning. To

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be honest, at first I didn't

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understand it very well. I wasn't

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sure. I was invited

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to many

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meetings, and it was a

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great opportunity to learn,

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but it took me

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some time to understand the role of the

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council and its importance. For

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example, I did not

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realize at the time that unless

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this council was given priority

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, no

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project would move forward. I was unaware that it was an

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integral part of the

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regional planning for

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the state and our regions. Therefore

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, it was very useful to

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know that. Therefore, for

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anyone new to this

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field, don't hesitate to

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ask. There are many

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questions that may

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come to your mind, which I

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also had, and

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I felt some

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hesitation in asking them. But just

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ask, because everyone

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wants to help you

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understand the role it plays

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and how it can benefit your

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city and region

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by participating in

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our meetings,

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workshops and everything we do;

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here,

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priority will not be given anywhere

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else. So, even if

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we as a city are talking about

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projects that are important to us, nothing will

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happen unless it is

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included in this

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timetable and part of this

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plan. Do you want to add

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participating. I think we may get too caught up in our

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shortcuts and

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procedures. But, Mr.

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Mayor, you are

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helping us and everyone involved

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to think about what

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we are trying to do:

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help and support you

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all in achieving

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your goals. Your feedback, as a

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long-time WFRC participant, is helpful to

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us, and I believe it is

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helpful to others as well.

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Thank you for these

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reflections, Ted.

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Fine, thank you. Oh,

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I am very impressed with your participation in

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Mayor Tran. I am

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very impressed by your sharing this. I have

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only been part of this group for a few years, not for my entire tenure as a

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commissioner, which is nearly

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eight years. But what I

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have noticed in this

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group, just over the

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past year or two

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, is that the mayors and

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county commissioner are having a

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real discussion, which I consider to be very

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important to the mission of this

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group. What they see, you

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know, and what

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they think about growth

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, and what the challenges are—because

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there are many

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challenges—so yes, I am

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very impressed when

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this group engages in a

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real discussion. Thank you,

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What you see on the screen

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is a kind of idea of ​​meditating

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in the forest. Do you understand what

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I mean by metaphor?

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move to the part of this

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process where we determine,

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well, which projects make

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focus on in the

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first ten years

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? This in turn

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greatly affects how

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we allocate funding,

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how funding decisions are made

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at the University of

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Delaware, and how we ourselves make

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funding decisions. So I

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just wanted to clarify this

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key point. This is an

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oversimplification, but the

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first phase is

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extremely important in how our

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state and federal governments spend

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transportation funds here in the state.

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This may be quite obvious

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fundamental reflection, so to speak,

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of the overall picture,

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even with how much we talk about the

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details in the work of

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our committee.

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Thank you, Ted, I appreciate

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it. Good. The

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next point is that I would like to give Meg the floor to talk

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to us about funding opportunities and

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technical assistance for the WFRC. Thank you, Madam

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President. Hello everyone

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, it was a pleasure seeing you all

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. We have upcoming funding opportunities

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. We often hear from you

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that financing is

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one of the biggest obstacles, if

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not the biggest obstacle,

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to realizing your dreams in

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your city, financing

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transportation projects, and meeting your

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planning needs

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. Therefore, we would like to assure

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you all that these

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opportunities will be available soon. Please submit your application

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.

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Thank you all. We have nine

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programs in Wasatch

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Front Regional Council that

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offer you funding.

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Five of these programs

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share a letter of intent.

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Letters of intent will be sent

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soon. Therefore, the

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deadline

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for submitting letters of

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intent for these

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five programs is the end of

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September, i.e., September 30. The

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first four programs are dedicated to financing

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capital projects,

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including

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construction and transportation works. The

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Transport and Land Use Linkage Program is

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designed for planning and

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covers most of your

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planning needs

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. If you have any

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planning needs,

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talk to us, you are

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very likely to

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qualify. I do not wish to

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go into detail about what

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each of

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these programs funds, because there are

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many. But what I want

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from you is to look forward to the

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file that will reach you

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soon. The program file will detail

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what qualifies in

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each of these

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programs, and will guide you

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through the letter of intent. If

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you have any

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questions or would like to

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submit a letter of intent so

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we can help you identify the most

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suitable program, that's fine

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. All you have to do is

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submit a letter of intent. The

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deadline for that

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is September 30th. Get in touch

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with your staff, your boards

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, and your colleagues on

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planning committees, and get

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your projects ready. In the

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next slide, I would like to refer

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to the four

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other programs we have available

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at the

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Western Forest Resource Center (WFRC).

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These programs are not

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part of the letter of intent

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; each has its

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own presentation cycle. I would like to

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point out here regarding the

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Community Development Grants Program (CDBG), where a

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mandatory workshop on how to

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apply will be held on October 8.

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Therefore, if you are from a

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community eligible

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under the CDBG program, noting

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that we do not cover the

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entire region with this

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program, please

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see the

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How to Apply workshop.

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Again, if you have

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any questions about

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eligibility or the region

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you fall into, please do

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not hesitate to

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contact us. We

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also have funding from the Community

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Infrastructure Support

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(CIB) program,

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technical assistance

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for station area planning,

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and funding for the Western Front Economic Development Zone

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. Good? I know I haven't given

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you

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details, but what I've mentioned

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are the dates. So,

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pay attention to these

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dates and get in touch with us

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. What we would like to do

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is talk to you about

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these opportunities, and I am happy to

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answer any questions.

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Thank you, Meg. Does

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anyone have any questions? May I

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add something?

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Well, as a complement to what

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Meg said, here is a brief summary of

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information provided by

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Meg. We will share it

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in detail. We will attend all

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Council of

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Local Governments (COG) meetings

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so that all

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elected officials

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in the region, and locally

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elected officials

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, are informed of this

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information. Therefore, we will not

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go into detail about it

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now, but we will present it

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to the Council of

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Local Governments (COG). We will

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also present it to the

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Technical Advisory Committee.

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Therefore, your employees

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who work on these

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matters will

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also receive all the information. I saw

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some of you taking

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screenshots. excellent. Your staff will receive the

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information, and you will receive

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more details

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at upcoming regional government council meetings

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.

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Well, that's great.

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Thank you, Meg.

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Thank you for that.

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Good. Now, we will invite

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Samantha Delhorse to talk to

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us about the

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"Wasatch Choice" vision workshop. And

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I will promote it.

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Make sure you attend.

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It is very useful and

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interesting.

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Good. Yes,

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great promotion and perfect pronunciation of my

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last name. Thank you for

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that.

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Thank you. Well, the

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fall workshop season is here again, and I

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look around the hall, and I

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think most of you have

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attended. I see many

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familiar faces who have

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attended our workshops over the

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years, and I am excited

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to talk to you a little about

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them. The

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annual Wasatch Choice workshops are,

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above all, a

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great opportunity for networking among

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transport partners, elected and

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appointed officials, and staff

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from communities throughout

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our region.

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Previously, when I

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worked as a

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community planner, I

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enjoyed attending these

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workshops and connecting with

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staff from different

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roles. It is a

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unique opportunity where we

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all come together and connect

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face to face. It is also an

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important logistical opportunity, as

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we discussed the transport planning process

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to determine the content of the

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regional transport plan,

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particularly the road transport network and

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active transport.

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If you look back at what you have done

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in these workshops over the

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years, you will remember that

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in

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many of them you were asked to give

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opinions on road projects,

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public transport and

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active transport. This year is no

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exception. The content of

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the workshops varies slightly each year

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, because we design it

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according to the stage we have

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reached in the

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regional transport planning process. You

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may recall that

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at

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our workshop

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last year we asked you to provide

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feedback on

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our preferred draft scenario, which represents

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the list of projects that

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passed the technical evaluation stage and

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moved on to the draft plan

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.

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This year's workshop will focus

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more on the element of the

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stages of the

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regional transport planning process. Therefore,

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we will ask you to provide

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feedback on how

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we performed, what we did well

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, and what we did wrong

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, with

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regard to determining when

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these

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projects were needed and when

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funding was expected to be available.

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This will be the core of

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the content we will be presenting to

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you in the autumn workshops.

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Here on the screen, we have a

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great map prepared by

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our analytics department,

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showing the

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eight workshops that will be held

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throughout our region

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. Each workshop covers a

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different geographical area.

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You will find this information

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highlighted in colored lines, and you

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will also find it in the

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small notices

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where the workshops will be held.

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Of course, we sent you

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this information in the

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calendar invitations, and the

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first workshop will be held in Box

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Elder County. Thank you for

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browsing north. I will read

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these dates to you so that

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you can write them down

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in your minds, perhaps

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when you hear about the

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workshops in your area. The

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Box Elder County workshop will be held on

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October 21, followed by the

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North Salt Lake County workshop

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on October 22, then the

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South Weber County workshop on

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October 26, the Southeast

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Salt Lake County workshop on

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November 2, the Southwest

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Salt Lake County workshop on

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November 5, the North

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Weber County workshop on

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November 9, the North Davis County workshop on

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November 16, and finally the South

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Davis County workshop on

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November 18. Therefore, we hope that you will attend

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these workshops in

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your area and provide us with

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your feedback on how they are

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conducted. The workshops will be held

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from 4:00

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to 6:00 pm on those

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evenings. Well, the

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calendar invitations have arrived from our

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dear colleague

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Jordan. If

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you do not have these dates and

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wish to attend,

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please inform us immediately.

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If you know of any

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employees from your offices or

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staff whom you would like us to contact to

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confirm that they have received

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these

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invitations, please let us know as

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well. We are happy to answer

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any questions

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you may have, and we look forward to

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seeing you this fall.

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Thanks, Sam. I would also like to

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add that we

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truly appreciate the partnership between the University of

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Delaware and the Utah Transportation Authority

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in these workshops.

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I know that the transit authority

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will be talking at the workshops about

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developing its

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strategic plan, and the University of

592
00:16:27,061 --> 00:16:28,333
Delaware is always

593
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involved in that. It's a

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real partnership opportunity.

595
00:16:31,659 --> 00:16:33,010
Yes, it's a great opportunity,

596
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as the transport authority is

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00:16:34,225 --> 00:16:35,576
also developing its

598
00:16:35,576 --> 00:16:36,691
long-term

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00:16:36,691 --> 00:16:37,784
public transport plan. Therefore, we are

600
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excited to have them as a

601
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partner to share some

602
00:16:39,958 --> 00:16:41,235
information about

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00:16:41,235 --> 00:16:42,639
public transport as well. So, stay tuned

604
00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:44,740
. Do you have

605
00:16:44,740 --> 00:16:46,706
any other questions? Please come in

606
00:16:46,706 --> 00:16:46,859
.

607
00:16:46,859 --> 00:16:48,434
I just noticed that the

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South Davis meeting is on a

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temporary day. Good. It's a rather

610
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busy day,

611
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November 18th. I'm just wondering

612
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if these dates are

613
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confirmed or if they can be moved

614
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to Tuesday or

615
00:17:02,099 --> 00:17:03,389
any other day.

616
00:17:03,389 --> 00:17:05,039
Great question. Well,

617
00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:06,344
perhaps we can follow up on

618
00:17:06,344 --> 00:17:07,549
this matter with our

619
00:17:07,549 --> 00:17:08,477
management team. I'm not

620
00:17:08,477 --> 00:17:09,818
sure

621
00:17:09,818 --> 00:17:11,188
these dates can be changed.

622
00:17:11,188 --> 00:17:12,274
We will look into the

623
00:17:12,274 --> 00:17:13,185
matter and get back to you

624
00:17:13,185 --> 00:17:14,056
.

625
00:17:14,056 --> 00:17:15,874
excellent. Thank you for this

626
00:17:15,874 --> 00:17:16,700
observation.

627
00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:18,089
Okay, since there are no

628
00:17:18,089 --> 00:17:19,436
other questions, I'll sit down

629
00:17:19,436 --> 00:17:21,173
. Thank you for your time.

630
00:17:21,173 --> 00:17:22,380
Thank you, Samantha, and

631
00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:23,783
to Mayor Bracha. Thank

632
00:17:23,783 --> 00:17:26,012
you both. I know we have had

633
00:17:26,046 --> 00:17:27,349
scheduling conflicts before, and it would be very

634
00:17:27,349 --> 00:17:28,686
helpful if

635
00:17:28,686 --> 00:17:29,989
someone in charge informed us because we

636
00:17:29,989 --> 00:17:31,226
all want to make sure we

637
00:17:31,226 --> 00:17:32,575
attend. I am

638
00:17:32,575 --> 00:17:33,862
very fortunate, like

639
00:17:33,862 --> 00:17:34,796
many others in this

640
00:17:34,796 --> 00:17:35,858
hall, because my life

641
00:17:35,858 --> 00:17:36,791
revolves around

642
00:17:36,791 --> 00:17:37,439
temporary days.

643
00:17:37,439 --> 00:17:38,786
Your lives are more than almost everyone else's

644
00:17:38,786 --> 00:17:39,935
.

645
00:17:39,935 --> 00:17:42,463
correct.

646
00:17:42,463 --> 00:17:43,538
Many people have joined us

647
00:17:43,538 --> 00:17:44,743
online.

648
00:17:44,743 --> 00:17:46,731
Andrew will introduce them. Okay

649
00:17:46,731 --> 00:17:47,823
, welcome.

650
00:17:47,823 --> 00:17:49,204
Mayor Benan,

651
00:17:49,204 --> 00:17:50,665
Councillor Strad, Laura

652
00:17:50,665 --> 00:17:52,087
Hansen of GOPB, Bryce

653
00:17:52,087 --> 00:17:53,468
Bird of DAQ, and Mayor

654
00:17:53,468 --> 00:17:54,692
Ramsey all asked me to

655
00:17:54,692 --> 00:17:57,524
apologize. She is dealing with an

656
00:17:57,567 --> 00:17:59,069
urgent matter and will join us shortly

657
00:17:59,069 --> 00:18:01,100
. Okay, that's

658
00:18:01,100 --> 00:18:06,684
good. Thank you all. Good.

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00:18:06,684 --> 00:18:08,335
Today, the

660
00:18:08,335 --> 00:18:10,031
Regional Growth Commission is asked to issue an

661
00:18:10,031 --> 00:18:13,031
amendment to the current Regional Transport Plan

662
00:18:13,074 --> 00:18:14,422
for a 30-day general suspension period

663
00:18:14,422 --> 00:18:16,045
. So,

664
00:18:16,045 --> 00:18:17,790
Juri Juner will explain

665
00:18:17,790 --> 00:18:20,303
this clause to us and show us the

666
00:18:20,303 --> 00:18:21,626
procedures we

667
00:18:21,626 --> 00:18:23,250
will take.

668
00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:25,273
Thank you all. Jori Gunner,

669
00:18:25,273 --> 00:18:26,883
Director of Long-

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00:18:26,883 --> 00:18:28,761
Term Planning here at WFRC. As

671
00:18:28,761 --> 00:18:30,823
the mayor mentioned, we will be introducing

672
00:18:30,823 --> 00:18:33,002
Amendment No. 5 and

673
00:18:33,002 --> 00:18:35,064
Air Quality Conformity Note No.

674
00:18:35,064 --> 00:18:38,915
44. We will address the

675
00:18:38,915 --> 00:18:40,745
amendment process, provide an

676
00:18:40,745 --> 00:18:42,278
overview of the projects

677
00:18:42,278 --> 00:18:44,059
covered by the amendment, and

678
00:18:44,059 --> 00:18:45,840
then request a proposal at the

679
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,323
end to release it for

680
00:18:47,323 --> 00:18:50,086
public comment. So, a

681
00:18:50,086 --> 00:18:52,125
reminder about the Regional Transport Plan

682
00:18:52,125 --> 00:18:53,907
(RTP). It is

683
00:18:53,907 --> 00:18:55,415
developed over a

684
00:18:55,415 --> 00:18:57,362
four-year cycle and is

685
00:18:57,362 --> 00:18:59,542
financially constrained. It has a

686
00:18:59,542 --> 00:19:01,495
financial plan, and it is consistent with

687
00:19:01,495 --> 00:19:03,350
the goals and budgets

688
00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:04,666
set for

689
00:19:04,666 --> 00:19:06,135
mobile sources of pollution on

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00:19:06,135 --> 00:19:07,607
roads. This is an

691
00:19:07,607 --> 00:19:08,984
air quality component. It is

692
00:19:08,984 --> 00:19:11,789
linked to local land use plans

693
00:19:11,832 --> 00:19:12,894
and the "

694
00:19:12,894 --> 00:19:14,668
waste picking" vision. It is divided

695
00:19:14,668 --> 00:19:16,384
into stages, each of which

696
00:19:16,384 --> 00:19:17,949
takes about ten

697
00:19:17,949 --> 00:19:20,027
years. The timing of the

698
00:19:20,027 --> 00:19:21,691
project's need and

699
00:19:21,691 --> 00:19:23,070
when we expect the

700
00:19:23,070 --> 00:19:26,001
necessary funding to be available are determined.

701
00:19:26,001 --> 00:19:27,443
It is the starting point,

702
00:19:27,443 --> 00:19:29,009
as the mayor

703
00:19:29,009 --> 00:19:30,328
previously stated, for projects to

704
00:19:30,328 --> 00:19:33,089
move forward in prioritizing

705
00:19:33,131 --> 00:19:34,614
federal, state, and

706
00:19:34,614 --> 00:19:35,997
local funding. Therefore, if the

707
00:19:35,997 --> 00:19:37,262
project is not included in the

708
00:19:37,262 --> 00:19:38,432
regional transport plan and

709
00:19:38,432 --> 00:19:39,507
is a type of

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00:19:39,507 --> 00:19:40,266
capacity-increasing project

711
00:19:40,266 --> 00:19:41,468
, it will be

712
00:19:41,468 --> 00:19:42,670
very difficult to obtain

713
00:19:42,670 --> 00:19:46,482
funding for it, but that's okay

714
00:19:46,482 --> 00:19:48,311
. Therefore,

715
00:19:48,311 --> 00:19:49,949
periodic adjustments are needed.

716
00:19:49,949 --> 00:19:51,718
It is not fixed. We do not

717
00:19:51,718 --> 00:19:53,248
commit to it for four

718
00:19:53,248 --> 00:19:54,778
years and then reconsider

719
00:19:54,778 --> 00:19:57,903
it. We have a mechanism that the

720
00:19:57,903 --> 00:19:59,826
council approved a few

721
00:19:59,826 --> 00:20:03,027
years ago to amend. Factors

722
00:20:03,027 --> 00:20:04,571
such as the availability of funding,

723
00:20:04,571 --> 00:20:05,694
changes in

724
00:20:05,694 --> 00:20:07,379
local

725
00:20:07,379 --> 00:20:09,111
or governmental needs, modifications to

726
00:20:09,111 --> 00:20:10,796
land uses, and

727
00:20:10,796 --> 00:20:12,527
environmental analysis may

728
00:20:12,527 --> 00:20:14,399
necessitate changes to the

729
00:20:14,399 --> 00:20:16,037
regional transport plan or

730
00:20:16,037 --> 00:20:17,254
updates to

731
00:20:17,254 --> 00:20:19,079
project development timelines

732
00:20:19,079 --> 00:20:21,766
. This mechanism maintains the

733
00:20:21,766 --> 00:20:24,547
accuracy of

734
00:20:24,591 --> 00:20:25,915
our standard regional transport planning process, and

735
00:20:25,915 --> 00:20:27,549
includes a review of

736
00:20:27,549 --> 00:20:28,961
financial constraints,

737
00:20:28,961 --> 00:20:30,550
public participation, and compliance with

738
00:20:30,550 --> 00:20:32,284
air quality standards.

739
00:20:32,284 --> 00:20:33,654
It is divided into three

740
00:20:33,654 --> 00:20:34,797
different levels, which

741
00:20:34,797 --> 00:20:35,939
you can see

742
00:20:35,939 --> 00:20:37,484
on the right. This is

743
00:20:37,484 --> 00:20:38,581
available on our website

744
00:20:38,581 --> 00:20:40,209
. If you go

745
00:20:40,209 --> 00:20:41,638
to the modifications section,

746
00:20:41,638 --> 00:20:43,148
you will find them on our website

747
00:20:43,148 --> 00:20:49,200
. Level

748
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,604
1 is an amendment by

749
00:20:50,604 --> 00:20:52,007
staff, which we can

750
00:20:52,007 --> 00:20:53,267
review internally with the

751
00:20:53,267 --> 00:20:54,634
chair and vice-chair of the

752
00:20:54,634 --> 00:20:55,894
Regional Growth Committee, and then

753
00:20:55,894 --> 00:20:57,297
Andrew takes over to approve

754
00:20:57,297 --> 00:20:58,629
Level

755
00:20:58,629 --> 00:20:59,863
1 amendments. The

756
00:20:59,863 --> 00:21:01,206
second level consists of amendments

757
00:21:01,206 --> 00:21:02,429
by the council.

758
00:21:02,429 --> 00:21:03,680
These projects are reviewed by the

759
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,035
Tax Committee of the

760
00:21:05,035 --> 00:21:06,355
Regional Growth Committee

761
00:21:06,355 --> 00:21:09,068
, and then approved at a

762
00:21:09,068 --> 00:21:10,335
committee meeting.

763
00:21:10,335 --> 00:21:11,480
Level 3 projects are

764
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,396
complete modifications,

765
00:21:12,396 --> 00:21:13,607
requiring a

766
00:21:13,607 --> 00:21:15,800
new air quality conformity note, a

767
00:21:15,832 --> 00:21:16,716
30-day public comment period,

768
00:21:16,716 --> 00:21:18,025
review by

769
00:21:18,025 --> 00:21:19,203
technical advisory committees and the

770
00:21:19,203 --> 00:21:20,446
regional growth committee

771
00:21:20,446 --> 00:21:21,264
, and then

772
00:21:21,264 --> 00:21:22,442
final approval from the council.

773
00:21:22,442 --> 00:21:23,688
These are projects of a

774
00:21:23,688 --> 00:21:24,814
wider scope, and

775
00:21:24,814 --> 00:21:26,655
I will explain that in the

776
00:21:26,655 --> 00:21:28,608
next slide. All projects are reviewed

777
00:21:28,608 --> 00:21:30,184
by a

778
00:21:30,184 --> 00:21:31,552
joint interagency advisory team

779
00:21:31,552 --> 00:21:33,003
, a

780
00:21:33,003 --> 00:21:34,454
state-level team,

781
00:21:34,454 --> 00:21:36,029
to ensure they are identified at the

782
00:21:36,029 --> 00:21:37,469
correct level. The financial

783
00:21:37,469 --> 00:21:38,401
restrictions are then reviewed

784
00:21:38,401 --> 00:21:40,589
by the

785
00:21:40,624 --> 00:21:41,699
Federal Highway Authority. In the

786
00:21:41,699 --> 00:21:43,113
next slide,

787
00:21:43,113 --> 00:21:44,838
I will explain the types of projects

788
00:21:44,838 --> 00:21:46,341
that fall under these

789
00:21:46,341 --> 00:21:47,901
categories. As you can see here

790
00:21:47,901 --> 00:21:49,141
on the right side, the

791
00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:50,488
golden line indicates the

792
00:21:50,488 --> 00:21:51,728
stage we have reached

793
00:21:51,728 --> 00:21:52,826
in Level

794
00:21:52,826 --> 00:21:53,988
3. Here's a

795
00:21:53,988 --> 00:21:55,303
quick overview: This is a

796
00:21:55,303 --> 00:21:56,693
Level 3 revision, and

797
00:21:56,693 --> 00:21:58,084
we've come a long way, and

798
00:21:58,084 --> 00:21:59,173
we need to put it out for

799
00:21:59,173 --> 00:22:00,796
public comment. This is what

800
00:22:00,796 --> 00:22:03,363
we are asking for today. Therefore,

801
00:22:03,363 --> 00:22:05,440
each one is different. Hmm,

802
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,276
Andrew narrows his eyes. We

803
00:22:07,276 --> 00:22:08,657
may need to find a

804
00:22:08,657 --> 00:22:10,221
better way to display these.

805
00:22:10,221 --> 00:22:10,975
Hmm,

806
00:22:10,975 --> 00:22:11,614
yes,

807
00:22:11,614 --> 00:22:13,241
staff adjustments.

808
00:22:13,241 --> 00:22:14,926
Well, the first level

809
00:22:14,926 --> 00:22:16,567
, personnel adjustments,

810
00:22:16,567 --> 00:22:17,853
are smaller projects,

811
00:22:17,853 --> 00:22:19,494
changes in ownership,

812
00:22:19,494 --> 00:22:21,135
operational changes to

813
00:22:21,135 --> 00:22:22,599
routes, changes in

814
00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:24,240
project phases based

815
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,969
on needs, all

816
00:22:25,969 --> 00:22:27,622
active transport projects.

817
00:22:27,622 --> 00:22:29,355
These are cycling

818
00:22:29,355 --> 00:22:30,883
and walking projects. Any changes

819
00:22:30,883 --> 00:22:32,371
to Wassett's vision

820
00:22:32,371 --> 00:22:33,598
are considered a

821
00:22:33,598 --> 00:22:34,666
Level 1 project.

822
00:22:34,666 --> 00:22:35,998
Level two,

823
00:22:35,998 --> 00:22:37,479
Council amendment. This

824
00:22:37,479 --> 00:22:39,059
includes both secondary

825
00:22:39,059 --> 00:22:40,974
and main roads.

826
00:22:40,974 --> 00:22:42,665
Non-permanent transport projects,

827
00:22:42,665 --> 00:22:44,453
such as bus projects

828
00:22:44,453 --> 00:22:45,807
and lane maintenance changes

829
00:22:45,807 --> 00:22:47,417
.

830
00:22:47,417 --> 00:22:48,731
Level 3 projects are

831
00:22:48,731 --> 00:22:49,846
main roads,

832
00:22:49,846 --> 00:22:50,960
highways and

833
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,333
fixed transport. This

834
00:22:52,333 --> 00:22:53,451
includes rapid transit

835
00:22:53,451 --> 00:22:54,603
by bus,

836
00:22:54,603 --> 00:22:55,755
light rail,

837
00:22:55,755 --> 00:22:56,839
trams,

838
00:22:56,839 --> 00:22:57,958
express trains, and the

839
00:22:57,958 --> 00:22:59,313
like, which fall

840
00:22:59,313 --> 00:23:00,785
under Amendment No. 3.

841
00:23:00,785 --> 00:23:02,241
We have one project in

842
00:23:02,241 --> 00:23:03,506
this amendment.

843
00:23:03,506 --> 00:23:04,921
The project is located on the West

844
00:23:04,921 --> 00:23:06,139
Davis corridor and aims to

845
00:23:06,139 --> 00:23:07,475
address both need and

846
00:23:07,475 --> 00:23:08,890
funding, specifically

847
00:23:08,890 --> 00:23:10,030
in the stage of

848
00:23:10,030 --> 00:23:13,680
financial constraints. The project is the

849
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,628
West Davis Corridor intersection

850
00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:17,685
at Highway 1525

851
00:23:17,685 --> 00:23:19,546
Westbound. There is currently an

852
00:23:19,546 --> 00:23:20,790
overpass at this

853
00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:22,300
location on the West

854
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:25,171
Davis Trail. The

855
00:23:25,171 --> 00:23:26,757
Utah Department of Transportation (

856
00:23:26,757 --> 00:23:28,172
UDOT) wants to upgrade the

857
00:23:28,172 --> 00:23:29,945
overpass into an intersection.

858
00:23:29,945 --> 00:23:31,307
The project is currently classified

859
00:23:31,307 --> 00:23:32,669
as Phase III, and

860
00:23:32,669 --> 00:23:33,787
is a project of

861
00:23:33,787 --> 00:23:36,233
urgent need and not funded under the

862
00:23:36,268 --> 00:23:37,568
current Regional Transport Plan (RTP).

863
00:23:37,568 --> 00:23:39,644
The project will cost approximately

864
00:23:39,644 --> 00:23:41,459
$20 million and will be

865
00:23:41,459 --> 00:23:44,935
funded by the

866
00:23:44,987 --> 00:23:46,647
state's Transportation Investment Fund, which is linked

867
00:23:46,647 --> 00:23:48,359
to the

868
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,114
I-15 Interstate Reconstruction Project.

869
00:23:52,114 --> 00:23:57,448
Yes, this is correct. I think I can

870
00:23:57,548 --> 00:23:59,801
see Glovers Lane,

871
00:23:59,801 --> 00:24:00,746
but it's

872
00:24:00,746 --> 00:24:01,876
in the southwest part

873
00:24:01,876 --> 00:24:03,326
of Farmington.

874
00:24:03,326 --> 00:24:04,638
When you reach

875
00:24:04,638 --> 00:24:06,066
Legacy Parkway, if

876
00:24:06,066 --> 00:24:07,416
you are heading north, you will

877
00:24:07,416 --> 00:24:08,728
reach approximately the first corner

878
00:24:08,728 --> 00:24:10,233
, and you will find an

879
00:24:10,233 --> 00:24:11,678
overpass there. It will pass

880
00:24:11,678 --> 00:24:13,548
underneath it, but there is no

881
00:24:13,548 --> 00:24:15,247
outlet. I think the

882
00:24:15,247 --> 00:24:19,812
next access point is 950

883
00:24:19,812 --> 00:24:21,753
south, then the next one is 200

884
00:24:21,753 --> 00:24:23,795
north towards Sisville.

885
00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:25,872
There are two intersections to the north,

886
00:24:25,872 --> 00:24:28,863
but they are very far apart.

887
00:24:28,863 --> 00:24:30,201
This will provide a

888
00:24:30,201 --> 00:24:31,539
new entrance to the

889
00:24:31,539 --> 00:24:34,358
western part of Farmington.

890
00:24:34,358 --> 00:24:35,889
amazing! Thanks.

891
00:24:35,889 --> 00:24:37,595
Jouri, may I ask you another question

892
00:24:37,595 --> 00:24:39,259
? Is this the

893
00:24:39,259 --> 00:24:41,010
Shepherd Lane bridge that he's crossing

894
00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:41,690
over?

895
00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:44,272
no. Shepherd Lane,

896
00:24:44,272 --> 00:24:46,426
I-15 is

897
00:24:46,426 --> 00:24:51,279
currently under construction. It will connect to an

898
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:53,283
existing intersection on

899
00:24:53,283 --> 00:24:55,846
West Davis Road. It will be a

900
00:24:55,846 --> 00:24:57,898
new corridor connecting

901
00:24:57,898 --> 00:24:59,898
West Davis and I-15 once the

902
00:24:59,898 --> 00:25:01,796
Shepherd Lane project opens

903
00:25:01,796 --> 00:25:02,444
. It

904
00:25:02,444 --> 00:25:04,292
may still be in the

905
00:25:04,292 --> 00:25:06,141
cleaning stage, but I remember you can

906
00:25:06,141 --> 00:25:07,847
get out of

907
00:25:07,847 --> 00:25:09,921
there. Mayor Rory, it

908
00:25:09,921 --> 00:25:11,444
might be helpful to explain the

909
00:25:11,444 --> 00:25:12,890
source of funding, especially

910
00:25:12,890 --> 00:25:14,218
after we initially showed a slide

911
00:25:14,218 --> 00:25:15,742
to some

912
00:25:15,742 --> 00:25:16,953
new members about the

913
00:25:16,953 --> 00:25:18,125
annual funding allocations

914
00:25:18,125 --> 00:25:19,180
and how this

915
00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:20,761
particular fund works. If

916
00:25:20,761 --> 00:25:22,040
you are new, you may be

917
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,716
wondering: "Oh my God, that's a

918
00:25:23,716 --> 00:25:25,401
huge amount!" So, how is a

919
00:25:25,401 --> 00:25:27,281
project of this

920
00:25:27,281 --> 00:25:30,896
size financed? I'll be counting on you for

921
00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:32,593
that, because I have Tiffany

922
00:25:32,593 --> 00:25:33,932
PCO and Andre

923
00:25:33,932 --> 00:25:35,584
Olsen who are

924
00:25:35,584 --> 00:25:37,438
programming TIFF. But as

925
00:25:37,438 --> 00:25:39,124
I understand this project,

926
00:25:39,124 --> 00:25:40,714
there is the

927
00:25:40,714 --> 00:25:42,641
I-15 highway project, scheduled to begin

928
00:25:42,641 --> 00:25:44,327
construction

929
00:25:44,327 --> 00:25:46,206
next year, from Farmington

930
00:25:46,206 --> 00:25:49,591
to Salt Lake. This project is a

931
00:25:49,637 --> 00:25:51,322
key element in helping to

932
00:25:51,322 --> 00:25:52,597
alleviate

933
00:25:52,597 --> 00:25:54,191
traffic congestion on

934
00:25:54,191 --> 00:25:56,013
I-15 during

935
00:25:56,013 --> 00:25:57,518
construction work.

936
00:25:57,518 --> 00:25:58,922
This is called "traffic maintenance

937
00:25:58,922 --> 00:26:00,426
," isn't it?

938
00:26:00,426 --> 00:26:02,021
During the construction work,

939
00:26:02,021 --> 00:26:03,044
some routes will be closed

940
00:26:03,044 --> 00:26:04,639
and traffic diverted

941
00:26:04,639 --> 00:26:06,153
; this will help

942
00:26:06,153 --> 00:26:08,965
provide access for residents of the

943
00:26:08,965 --> 00:26:10,591
southwest part

944
00:26:10,591 --> 00:26:12,545
of Farmington. So,

945
00:26:12,545 --> 00:26:14,956
the funding in this case is

946
00:26:14,956 --> 00:26:17,186
tied to the

947
00:26:17,186 --> 00:26:19,854
I-15 highway project, as I understand it.

948
00:26:19,854 --> 00:26:21,219
I will look into... There are

949
00:26:21,219 --> 00:26:24,383
no revenues from the

950
00:26:24,429 --> 00:26:26,021
previously submitted budget items.

951
00:26:26,021 --> 00:26:28,136
correct. I'm Tiffany, would

952
00:26:28,136 --> 00:26:29,879
you like to add funding?

953
00:26:29,879 --> 00:26:31,534
Yes, specifically regarding the

954
00:26:31,534 --> 00:26:33,147
source of funding, it

955
00:26:33,147 --> 00:26:34,846
comes from the Transport Investment Fund

956
00:26:34,846 --> 00:26:36,548
. It is a

957
00:26:36,548 --> 00:26:40,947
government fund. As you know,

958
00:26:40,947 --> 00:26:42,808
there are multiple sources of funding

959
00:26:42,808 --> 00:26:45,090
, but it is funded by the

960
00:26:45,090 --> 00:26:46,836
state. The

961
00:26:46,836 --> 00:26:48,426
Transportation Commission funded the

962
00:26:48,426 --> 00:26:50,062
I-15 highway project from

963
00:26:50,062 --> 00:26:51,652
Farmington to Salt

964
00:26:51,652 --> 00:26:53,064
Lake City. With this

965
00:26:53,064 --> 00:26:54,550
funding, they were able to

966
00:26:54,550 --> 00:26:56,451
complete the old road. The

967
00:26:56,451 --> 00:26:57,878
old road has an

968
00:26:57,878 --> 00:26:59,382
additional lane in each

969
00:26:59,382 --> 00:27:00,810
direction, in addition to

970
00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:02,451
this intersection. Therefore, part

971
00:27:02,451 --> 00:27:03,835
of this project is to

972
00:27:03,835 --> 00:27:05,436
build these two

973
00:27:05,436 --> 00:27:06,648
other intersections to alleviate

974
00:27:06,648 --> 00:27:08,081
congestion.

975
00:27:08,081 --> 00:27:09,428
For the group

976
00:27:09,428 --> 00:27:10,564
that will vote on the

977
00:27:10,564 --> 00:27:12,164
amendment or not, we must

978
00:27:12,164 --> 00:27:13,722
understand that this is a change

979
00:27:13,722 --> 00:27:15,279
in procedures, but it is

980
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:16,837
not necessarily a

981
00:27:16,837 --> 00:27:18,479
funding decision for us

982
00:27:18,479 --> 00:27:19,716
at this stage.

983
00:27:19,716 --> 00:27:22,895
correct. This is part of

984
00:27:22,895 --> 00:27:24,841
another project with a different capacity.

985
00:27:24,841 --> 00:27:26,831
excellent. Thank you.

986
00:27:26,831 --> 00:27:30,276
I have a question. I read here,

987
00:27:30,276 --> 00:27:31,528
under the section on benefits, the

988
00:27:31,528 --> 00:27:33,022
last sentence says

989
00:27:33,022 --> 00:27:34,475
that it was initially designed

990
00:27:34,475 --> 00:27:35,848
to be built along with

991
00:27:35,848 --> 00:27:37,467
West Davis Quarter Road. Does

992
00:27:37,467 --> 00:27:38,584
this mean that it was

993
00:27:38,584 --> 00:27:39,962
present in the

994
00:27:39,962 --> 00:27:41,451
original plans and then removed for some reason

995
00:27:41,451 --> 00:27:42,890
? This makes perfect sense

996
00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:44,460
to me as someone who lives

997
00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:46,369
there. I think this makes perfect sense

998
00:27:46,369 --> 00:27:47,891
. Why wasn't it built

999
00:27:47,891 --> 00:27:49,211
even though the highway is

1000
00:27:49,211 --> 00:27:50,788
relatively new? Why wasn't it

1001
00:27:50,788 --> 00:27:52,273
originally built with it?

1002
00:27:52,273 --> 00:27:54,180
I wonder about that sentence.

1003
00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:55,826
Excellent question. I'm not

1004
00:27:55,826 --> 00:27:57,234
entirely sure. I don't

1005
00:27:57,234 --> 00:27:58,069
know if the

1006
00:27:58,069 --> 00:27:59,054
Urban Development Department or

1007
00:27:59,054 --> 00:28:00,099
our partners know why it was

1008
00:28:00,099 --> 00:28:01,201
n't included. I think

1009
00:28:01,201 --> 00:28:02,492
they were

1010
00:28:02,492 --> 00:28:03,488
probably trying to cut

1011
00:28:03,488 --> 00:28:05,959
costs or get it done within the

1012
00:28:05,996 --> 00:28:07,434
current budget, so they had to

1013
00:28:07,434 --> 00:28:08,992
cut some things. That's what I

1014
00:28:08,992 --> 00:28:09,870
think.

1015
00:28:09,870 --> 00:28:10,970
Yes, from an

1016
00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:12,297
environmental standpoint, we obtained

1017
00:28:12,297 --> 00:28:13,321
approval for this

1018
00:28:13,321 --> 00:28:14,422
intersection through the

1019
00:28:14,422 --> 00:28:15,660
environmental document.

1020
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:17,434
Well, at that time,

1021
00:28:17,434 --> 00:28:19,255
when we created the

1022
00:28:19,255 --> 00:28:20,749
first phase of the West

1023
00:28:20,749 --> 00:28:22,337
Havis corridor, it wasn't

1024
00:28:22,337 --> 00:28:23,831
urgently needed from a

1025
00:28:23,831 --> 00:28:25,694
traffic perspective.

1026
00:28:25,694 --> 00:28:27,255
But now, given that we will be doing

1027
00:28:27,255 --> 00:28:29,018
work

1028
00:28:29,018 --> 00:28:31,033
on I-15,

1029
00:28:31,033 --> 00:28:32,896
which will require a

1030
00:28:32,896 --> 00:28:34,558
great deal of effort, this will serve as a

1031
00:28:34,558 --> 00:28:36,573
safety valve for that

1032
00:28:36,573 --> 00:28:39,581
area sooner rather than later. Mr.

1033
00:28:39,581 --> 00:28:41,444
Mayor, this

1034
00:28:41,444 --> 00:28:43,307
project was included in the

1035
00:28:43,307 --> 00:28:46,507
regional transport plan for a

1036
00:28:46,507 --> 00:28:51,433
later stage. As

1037
00:28:51,433 --> 00:28:53,465
Tiffany pointed out, and as

1038
00:28:53,465 --> 00:28:55,265
the mayor explained, the

1039
00:28:55,265 --> 00:28:57,413
combination of effects in

1040
00:28:57,413 --> 00:28:59,735
your area means that the implementation of the

1041
00:28:59,735 --> 00:29:01,477
I-15 project has accelerated

1042
00:29:01,477 --> 00:29:03,799
the need to make this

1043
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:08,588
improvement before I-15. I think it's

1044
00:29:08,632 --> 00:29:10,325
mainly a matter of timing, and

1045
00:29:10,325 --> 00:29:11,555
this is probably

1046
00:29:11,555 --> 00:29:12,695
one of the fastest intersections to be

1047
00:29:12,695 --> 00:29:13,868
built because the

1048
00:29:13,868 --> 00:29:15,009
overpass is already there

1049
00:29:15,009 --> 00:29:16,312
, so it

1050
00:29:16,312 --> 00:29:17,452
just needs ramps,

1051
00:29:17,452 --> 00:29:18,560
isn't that right, Mr.

1052
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,432
Mayor?

1053
00:29:19,432 --> 00:29:20,653
This is very close to

1054
00:29:20,653 --> 00:29:21,874
Farmington

1055
00:29:21,874 --> 00:29:23,661
High School. Well, I'm

1056
00:29:23,661 --> 00:29:25,033
wondering from the perspective of

1057
00:29:25,033 --> 00:29:26,163
the city, and perhaps the

1058
00:29:26,163 --> 00:29:27,616
school district,

1059
00:29:27,616 --> 00:29:28,867
whether the

1060
00:29:28,867 --> 00:29:30,240
impact of this

1061
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,410
on

1062
00:29:31,410 --> 00:29:33,872
student traffic, walkability,

1063
00:29:33,912 --> 00:29:35,406
active transportation options, and

1064
00:29:35,406 --> 00:29:36,899
student safety as they arrive

1065
00:29:36,899 --> 00:29:38,392
at Farmington

1066
00:29:38,392 --> 00:29:40,290
High School has been considered. I understand that this is

1067
00:29:40,290 --> 00:29:41,674
included in the plan,

1068
00:29:41,674 --> 00:29:42,986
but have we thought

1069
00:29:42,986 --> 00:29:44,116
about all of this thoroughly, has the

1070
00:29:44,116 --> 00:29:45,537
pace of implementation been accelerated,

1071
00:29:45,537 --> 00:29:46,521
and will these

1072
00:29:46,521 --> 00:29:48,308
factors be taken into account?

1073
00:29:48,308 --> 00:29:49,904
I assume that all of that has been

1074
00:29:49,904 --> 00:29:51,460
reviewed during the

1075
00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:52,976
environmental analysis, but if

1076
00:29:52,976 --> 00:29:54,253
necessary, do you have any

1077
00:29:54,253 --> 00:29:56,127
additions or comments? I do

1078
00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:57,559
n't know the details of this

1079
00:29:57,559 --> 00:29:59,117
question, but we can

1080
00:29:59,117 --> 00:30:00,675
certainly ask it and get back to

1081
00:30:00,675 --> 00:30:03,516
you. It is not

1082
00:30:03,516 --> 00:30:05,221
my area in

1083
00:30:05,221 --> 00:30:08,500
Davis County, but

1084
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:09,947
Glover Lane presents an

1085
00:30:09,947 --> 00:30:11,287
interesting challenge, in

1086
00:30:11,287 --> 00:30:12,698
my opinion, for students

1087
00:30:12,698 --> 00:30:13,748
who live on the

1088
00:30:13,748 --> 00:30:14,870
east side of

1089
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:16,282
Farmington to get to

1090
00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:17,368
Farmington

1091
00:30:17,368 --> 00:30:18,707
High School via the

1092
00:30:18,707 --> 00:30:22,233
freeway. There is

1093
00:30:22,233 --> 00:30:23,982
significant growth on the west side

1094
00:30:23,982 --> 00:30:25,799
of Farmington. Therefore, the

1095
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:27,272
movement of these

1096
00:30:27,272 --> 00:30:28,476
students to and from

1097
00:30:28,476 --> 00:30:29,993
high school, and the

1098
00:30:29,993 --> 00:30:31,287
huge amount of

1099
00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:32,358
activities

1100
00:30:32,358 --> 00:30:33,608
organized by a

1101
00:30:33,608 --> 00:30:36,240
large high school, is something I would like us to pay

1102
00:30:36,285 --> 00:30:37,724
close attention to.

1103
00:30:37,724 --> 00:30:39,604
We are currently working with the

1104
00:30:39,604 --> 00:30:41,650
City of Farmington on the

1105
00:30:41,650 --> 00:30:43,365
2027 Plan.

1106
00:30:43,365 --> 00:30:45,522
The City has acknowledged the need to improve

1107
00:30:45,522 --> 00:30:47,513
both Route 1525 and

1108
00:30:47,513 --> 00:30:49,670
Glovers, so we will be adding

1109
00:30:49,670 --> 00:30:51,771
these projects to the

1110
00:30:51,771 --> 00:30:53,433
upcoming 2027 Plan. Therefore,

1111
00:30:53,433 --> 00:30:55,104
the city expects to make

1112
00:30:55,104 --> 00:30:56,775
additional efforts, and I am

1113
00:30:56,775 --> 00:30:58,699
sure it will coordinate

1114
00:30:58,699 --> 00:31:00,269
with schools to ensure that

1115
00:31:00,269 --> 00:31:02,092
both

1116
00:31:02,092 --> 00:31:04,015
active transportation and roads are completed

1117
00:31:04,015 --> 00:31:05,446
there as well. These are

1118
00:31:05,446 --> 00:31:06,665
great comments about

1119
00:31:06,665 --> 00:31:07,773
Farmington

1120
00:31:07,773 --> 00:31:08,884
High School. Part of my

1121
00:31:08,884 --> 00:31:10,033
thinking about the feasibility of this

1122
00:31:10,033 --> 00:31:10,926
project relates to

1123
00:31:10,926 --> 00:31:11,946
Farmington

1124
00:31:11,946 --> 00:31:13,161
High School. All residents of

1125
00:31:13,161 --> 00:31:14,248
West Keysville do not have a

1126
00:31:14,248 --> 00:31:15,048
convenient route

1127
00:31:15,048 --> 00:31:16,050
to get to their

1128
00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:17,108
high school in the morning, as it

1129
00:31:17,108 --> 00:31:18,052
takes them a

1130
00:31:18,052 --> 00:31:19,139
long time, so

1131
00:31:19,139 --> 00:31:20,283
this project may help

1132
00:31:20,283 --> 00:31:21,475
solve this problem. But

1133
00:31:21,475 --> 00:31:24,063
Kate is absolutely right;

1134
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:25,413
active transport and

1135
00:31:25,413 --> 00:31:26,313
pedestrian traffic

1136
00:31:26,313 --> 00:31:27,588
associated with the

1137
00:31:27,588 --> 00:31:29,217
high school there must certainly be taken into account. Well,

1138
00:31:29,217 --> 00:31:30,582
in that context, I don't

1139
00:31:30,582 --> 00:31:32,118
know if you always take

1140
00:31:32,118 --> 00:31:33,355
these things into

1141
00:31:33,355 --> 00:31:35,019
account, and I don't

1142
00:31:35,019 --> 00:31:36,640
want to be accused,

1143
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,347
but the whole intersection in

1144
00:31:38,347 --> 00:31:40,010
Farmington, near

1145
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:41,632
Station Park, was built without any

1146
00:31:41,632 --> 00:31:43,039
consideration for the passage of

1147
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:45,309
cyclists or pedestrians.

1148
00:31:45,309 --> 00:31:47,073
Now they are forced to

1149
00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:48,436
rebuild it. So please

1150
00:31:48,436 --> 00:31:49,712
look at this

1151
00:31:49,712 --> 00:31:50,988
active part, especially with the

1152
00:31:50,988 --> 00:31:52,062
high school

1153
00:31:52,062 --> 00:31:53,405
nearby, it will provide

1154
00:31:53,405 --> 00:31:54,614
better access, I

1155
00:31:54,614 --> 00:31:55,554
think, for their

1156
00:31:55,554 --> 00:31:56,729
daily commute to school in

1157
00:31:56,729 --> 00:31:57,266
the morning. I do

1158
00:31:57,266 --> 00:31:57,998
n't know if

1159
00:31:57,998 --> 00:31:59,019
[the relevant authority

1160
00:31:59,019 --> 00:31:59,830
] can answer this

1161
00:31:59,830 --> 00:32:00,693
question, but when

1162
00:32:00,693 --> 00:32:01,557
you move a project from the

1163
00:32:01,557 --> 00:32:02,525
third stage to the

1164
00:32:02,525 --> 00:32:03,310
first, you run into

1165
00:32:03,310 --> 00:32:04,352
reality, don't you?

1166
00:32:04,352 --> 00:32:05,702
Stage three means:

1167
00:32:05,702 --> 00:32:06,951
"Yes, we might need

1168
00:32:06,951 --> 00:32:08,558
this, what if?" I believe the

1169
00:32:08,558 --> 00:32:10,351
questions raised are

1170
00:32:10,351 --> 00:32:12,046
very important, and they push us

1171
00:32:12,046 --> 00:32:13,402
to explore

1172
00:32:13,402 --> 00:32:15,146
revenue sources related to

1173
00:32:15,146 --> 00:32:16,745
active transport, because the

1174
00:32:16,745 --> 00:32:18,634
goal is clear: any

1175
00:32:18,634 --> 00:32:20,475
investment in a

1176
00:32:20,475 --> 00:32:22,025
major highway or even a

1177
00:32:22,025 --> 00:32:23,866
regular road, we are now focusing more

1178
00:32:23,866 --> 00:32:25,807
on active transport.

1179
00:32:25,807 --> 00:32:27,102
I remember joining the

1180
00:32:27,102 --> 00:32:28,398
Wasatch Front Council as a member around

1181
00:32:28,398 --> 00:32:29,655
2005

1182
00:32:29,655 --> 00:32:31,025
. The

1183
00:32:31,025 --> 00:32:32,047
Active Transport Committee was in

1184
00:32:32,047 --> 00:32:34,470
its early stages, and the process was

1185
00:32:34,508 --> 00:32:35,800
also in its early stages. Is this the

1186
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,170
right moment for

1187
00:32:37,170 --> 00:32:38,356
the team to provide

1188
00:32:38,356 --> 00:32:39,995
valuable feedback?

1189
00:32:39,995 --> 00:32:41,658
Can we now consider

1190
00:32:41,658 --> 00:32:42,708
active transfer, and

1191
00:32:42,708 --> 00:32:44,152
reach out to the University of

1192
00:32:44,152 --> 00:32:45,596
Delaware to make sure we are

1193
00:32:45,596 --> 00:32:46,909
moving in that

1194
00:32:46,909 --> 00:32:48,047
direction, and link

1195
00:32:48,047 --> 00:32:49,566
the two programs? Perhaps

1196
00:32:49,566 --> 00:32:51,227
our next decision will be to

1197
00:32:51,227 --> 00:32:52,597
activate the Active Transportation Project

1198
00:32:52,597 --> 00:32:54,133
to address

1199
00:32:54,133 --> 00:32:56,832
high school problems and

1200
00:32:56,874 --> 00:32:59,093
other community needs. Well, this is a

1201
00:32:59,093 --> 00:33:01,027
great conversation, and to

1202
00:33:01,027 --> 00:33:02,960
clarify, what is being presented

1203
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,603
to you today is a request for

1204
00:33:04,603 --> 00:33:06,440
your approval to put this

1205
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,890
topic up for

1206
00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:10,761
public comment. Good. The aim

1207
00:33:10,761 --> 00:33:12,175
is to continue

1208
00:33:12,175 --> 00:33:13,118
the dialogue about

1209
00:33:13,118 --> 00:33:14,532
the needs

1210
00:33:14,532 --> 00:33:15,852
you have identified and that

1211
00:33:15,852 --> 00:33:17,596
Tiffany has explained, and this is the kind of

1212
00:33:17,596 --> 00:33:19,057
feedback that is

1213
00:33:19,057 --> 00:33:22,447
needed. So, I look forward

1214
00:33:22,447 --> 00:33:24,306
to Tiffany, Andrea, and

1215
00:33:24,306 --> 00:33:26,058
Jory, and as you mentioned

1216
00:33:26,058 --> 00:33:27,810
earlier, Tiffany,

1217
00:33:27,810 --> 00:33:29,244
gathering more

1218
00:33:29,244 --> 00:33:31,103
information about

1219
00:33:31,103 --> 00:33:33,173
pedestrian and bicycle traffic, and then

1220
00:33:33,173 --> 00:33:35,244
sharing it with you, and hopefully

1221
00:33:35,244 --> 00:33:37,103
answering some of these

1222
00:33:37,103 --> 00:33:40,704
questions. We are certainly concerned about these

1223
00:33:40,749 --> 00:33:42,697
effects as well. So,

1224
00:33:42,697 --> 00:33:44,325
we can have more

1225
00:33:44,325 --> 00:33:45,733
dialogue on this

1226
00:33:45,733 --> 00:33:47,186
subject during the

1227
00:33:47,186 --> 00:33:48,858
public comment period, and then at the

1228
00:33:48,858 --> 00:33:50,486
end of the

1229
00:33:50,486 --> 00:33:52,115
public comment period,

1230
00:33:52,115 --> 00:33:54,755
when this project is returned for

1231
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:56,516
final approval, I would like to say,

1232
00:33:56,516 --> 00:33:59,772
Mayor Wilson, you have indicated that,

1233
00:33:59,816 --> 00:34:01,533
years ago, we have made

1234
00:34:01,533 --> 00:34:03,293
remarkable progress since the

1235
00:34:03,293 --> 00:34:04,656
Active Transport Commission was established. It's not

1236
00:34:04,656 --> 00:34:06,130
perfect, and we're not finished

1237
00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:07,519
yet, but we've made

1238
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:08,824
amazing progress in

1239
00:34:08,824 --> 00:34:10,003
providing choices

1240
00:34:10,003 --> 00:34:11,434
and thinking about all these

1241
00:34:11,434 --> 00:34:12,697
things related to

1242
00:34:12,697 --> 00:34:14,297
roads, public transport

1243
00:34:14,297 --> 00:34:15,897
, pathways, pedestrians,

1244
00:34:15,897 --> 00:34:17,513
and how they work together.

1245
00:34:17,513 --> 00:34:18,940
There is now funding specifically allocated to

1246
00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:20,331
track projects that did not

1247
00:34:20,331 --> 00:34:21,683
exist before,

1248
00:34:21,683 --> 00:34:22,961
and all of

1249
00:34:22,961 --> 00:34:24,313
these things must be considered at the same time

1250
00:34:24,313 --> 00:34:26,108
. So, my

1251
00:34:26,108 --> 00:34:27,870
basic reaction to all of this was

1252
00:34:27,870 --> 00:34:29,407
yes, let's look into it

1253
00:34:29,407 --> 00:34:30,905
. I know that the University of

1254
00:34:30,905 --> 00:34:32,202
Delaware has researched this

1255
00:34:32,202 --> 00:34:33,570
with local communities

1256
00:34:33,570 --> 00:34:34,615
, and we can provide

1257
00:34:34,615 --> 00:34:37,375
more information. Please come in

1258
00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:41,220
. I

1259
00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:44,051
was a member of the

1260
00:34:44,094 --> 00:34:45,749
City of Cessville Urban Planning Commission in

1261
00:34:45,749 --> 00:34:47,143
my first public service position

1262
00:34:47,143 --> 00:34:48,798
, which began in

1263
00:34:48,798 --> 00:34:50,540
January 2014. Within about a year

1264
00:34:50,540 --> 00:34:52,195
, both

1265
00:34:52,195 --> 00:34:53,676
Cessville and Farmington

1266
00:34:53,676 --> 00:34:55,331
applied for and received a

1267
00:34:55,331 --> 00:34:56,986
Wasatch Front

1268
00:34:56,986 --> 00:34:58,642
Regional Council Active Transit Grant

1269
00:34:58,642 --> 00:35:03,096
.

1270
00:35:03,096 --> 00:35:04,876
Both cities had a

1271
00:35:04,876 --> 00:35:06,408
number of employees,

1272
00:35:06,408 --> 00:35:08,138
in addition to

1273
00:35:08,138 --> 00:35:12,325
council members and a planning committee.

1274
00:35:12,325 --> 00:35:13,830
In any case, it was a

1275
00:35:13,830 --> 00:35:15,486
very strong group, and there was a

1276
00:35:15,486 --> 00:35:17,193
planner who attended the

1277
00:35:17,193 --> 00:35:18,498
meeting representing

1278
00:35:18,498 --> 00:35:20,245
the city. Tomlar was in

1279
00:35:20,245 --> 00:35:22,241
charge at the time. In

1280
00:35:22,241 --> 00:35:25,616
any case, they

1281
00:35:25,616 --> 00:35:27,013
promoted the project and

1282
00:35:27,013 --> 00:35:28,367
received a lot of

1283
00:35:28,367 --> 00:35:30,673
public feedback about it.

1284
00:35:30,673 --> 00:35:32,463
Hundreds of people participated in

1285
00:35:32,463 --> 00:35:34,159
Cesville and Farmington,

1286
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:35,997
thanks to the tremendous efforts

1287
00:35:35,997 --> 00:35:37,740
made to gather

1288
00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:39,154
public feedback,

1289
00:35:39,154 --> 00:35:41,265
opinions, and ideas. It

1290
00:35:41,265 --> 00:35:42,572
took some

1291
00:35:42,572 --> 00:35:44,005
time, but he succeeded in

1292
00:35:44,005 --> 00:35:45,481
engaging the community

1293
00:35:45,481 --> 00:35:46,999
effectively, and that didn't happen

1294
00:35:46,999 --> 00:35:49,882
in six months. This was over a

1295
00:35:49,924 --> 00:35:51,421
longer period of time. I believe that

1296
00:35:51,421 --> 00:35:52,460
these two cities had

1297
00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:53,637
formed that

1298
00:35:53,637 --> 00:35:54,989
committee. In any case,

1299
00:35:54,989 --> 00:35:56,517
I would just say that it is

1300
00:35:56,517 --> 00:35:57,893
likely that

1301
00:35:57,893 --> 00:35:59,421
all cities and many

1302
00:35:59,421 --> 00:36:02,806
communities will have a

1303
00:36:02,806 --> 00:36:04,807
similarly strong response to engagement.

1304
00:36:04,807 --> 00:36:06,018
But there is indeed a

1305
00:36:06,018 --> 00:36:07,542
history of Keysville and

1306
00:36:07,542 --> 00:36:08,558
Farmington

1307
00:36:08,558 --> 00:36:10,082
collaborating and working hard to

1308
00:36:10,082 --> 00:36:11,138
respond to and

1309
00:36:11,138 --> 00:36:14,116
gain the support of the community. It was

1310
00:36:14,155 --> 00:36:15,730
really enjoyable for those gathered. So,

1311
00:36:15,730 --> 00:36:17,473
once that seed is planted,

1312
00:36:17,473 --> 00:36:18,823
I bet it will come

1313
00:36:18,823 --> 00:36:20,260
right back to us, you

1314
00:36:20,260 --> 00:36:21,697
know, if we

1315
00:36:21,697 --> 00:36:23,134
really find a way to inform the

1316
00:36:23,134 --> 00:36:26,031
public. I am quite confident

1317
00:36:26,031 --> 00:36:27,812
that the active transport element is

1318
00:36:27,812 --> 00:36:29,495
included in the

1319
00:36:29,495 --> 00:36:31,306
West Davis corridor. The

1320
00:36:31,306 --> 00:36:32,858
entire project participated in the

1321
00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:34,586
study, a

1322
00:36:34,586 --> 00:36:35,916
multi-year environmental study, and

1323
00:36:35,916 --> 00:36:37,645
numerous conversations

1324
00:36:37,645 --> 00:36:39,374
with Farmington, Cesville,

1325
00:36:39,374 --> 00:36:40,925
and all the communities in the

1326
00:36:40,925 --> 00:36:42,210
western part of

1327
00:36:42,210 --> 00:36:43,968
Davis County here. So

1328
00:36:43,968 --> 00:36:45,479
, as I said, we can

1329
00:36:45,479 --> 00:36:47,321
check and make sure

1330
00:36:47,321 --> 00:36:49,181
, but there is a path. I know

1331
00:36:49,181 --> 00:36:50,207
there are

1332
00:36:50,207 --> 00:36:51,652
equestrian trails along West

1333
00:36:51,652 --> 00:36:53,059
Davis; There are crossings;

1334
00:36:53,059 --> 00:36:54,580
There are walking trails along the

1335
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:56,136
road. I drove there

1336
00:36:56,136 --> 00:36:58,776
yesterday.

1337
00:36:58,776 --> 00:36:59,541
Fine,

1338
00:36:59,541 --> 00:37:01,801
thank you.

1339
00:37:01,801 --> 00:37:03,148
As part of our

1340
00:37:03,148 --> 00:37:04,635
regional

1341
00:37:04,635 --> 00:37:06,028
population census project, we conducted

1342
00:37:06,028 --> 00:37:07,450
technical studies.

1343
00:37:07,450 --> 00:37:09,158
We've talked about a lot of them

1344
00:37:09,158 --> 00:37:10,917
here. As for those we did not

1345
00:37:10,917 --> 00:37:12,763
mention, there was little

1346
00:37:12,763 --> 00:37:14,366
change,

1347
00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:15,871
as they were merely upgrades

1348
00:37:15,871 --> 00:37:17,249
to intersections.

1349
00:37:17,249 --> 00:37:18,304
Looking at the

1350
00:37:18,304 --> 00:37:19,564
regional scope of the West

1351
00:37:19,564 --> 00:37:20,892
Fremantle Regional Hub from

1352
00:37:20,892 --> 00:37:21,947
Brigham Town to

1353
00:37:21,947 --> 00:37:23,241
Bluffdale, there has been little

1354
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:24,296
change in

1355
00:37:24,296 --> 00:37:25,250
terms of

1356
00:37:25,250 --> 00:37:26,475
access to opportunities or in terms

1357
00:37:26,475 --> 00:37:27,929
of VHT. It should

1358
00:37:27,929 --> 00:37:29,272
also be noted that we

1359
00:37:29,272 --> 00:37:30,535
adhere to all

1360
00:37:30,535 --> 00:37:31,960
air quality standards

1361
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,466
mentioned in

1362
00:37:33,466 --> 00:37:34,891
Air Quality Conformity Note No.

1363
00:37:34,891 --> 00:37:37,645
44. Both

1364
00:37:39,683 --> 00:37:40,890
Regional Growth Technical Advisory Committees reviewed

1365
00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:42,249
the amendment on July 29 and

1366
00:37:42,249 --> 00:37:44,777
recommended that the Regional Growth Committee submit

1367
00:37:44,815 --> 00:37:45,871
a proposal to issue

1368
00:37:45,871 --> 00:37:48,211
Amendment 5 and

1369
00:37:48,249 --> 00:37:49,607
Air Quality Conformity Note No. 44 for

1370
00:37:49,607 --> 00:37:51,041
public comment for 30

1371
00:37:51,041 --> 00:37:52,852
days.

1372
00:37:52,852 --> 00:37:54,669
The proposal was submitted. Fine

1373
00:37:54,669 --> 00:37:54,863
,

1374
00:37:54,863 --> 00:37:56,990
thank you. Therefore, you must

1375
00:37:56,990 --> 00:37:58,356
state the proposal in full.

1376
00:37:58,356 --> 00:37:59,468
Do we need someone to

1377
00:37:59,468 --> 00:38:01,055
introduce it? Yes, we say

1378
00:38:01,055 --> 00:38:02,232
that. Thanks.

1379
00:38:02,232 --> 00:38:03,563
I propose that we release

1380
00:38:03,563 --> 00:38:05,388
the projects contained in

1381
00:38:05,388 --> 00:38:07,015
Amendment No. 5 to the

1382
00:38:07,015 --> 00:38:08,939
Regional Transport Plan 2023-2050

1383
00:38:08,939 --> 00:38:11,617
, and the air quality conformity analysis

1384
00:38:11,617 --> 00:38:13,227
as contained

1385
00:38:13,227 --> 00:38:15,017
in Draft

1386
00:38:15,017 --> 00:38:16,539
Air Quality Conformity Note No. 44,

1387
00:38:16,539 --> 00:38:17,926
for a public comment period

1388
00:38:17,926 --> 00:38:19,145
of 30 days.

1389
00:38:19,145 --> 00:38:20,874
Thank you, Mayor

1390
00:38:20,874 --> 00:38:24,435
Grüberg. Good. Thank

1391
00:38:24,435 --> 00:38:26,500
you, Commissioner. Okay.

1392
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,210
Does everyone agree? I

1393
00:38:28,210 --> 00:38:30,475
agree, thank you. Anyone who

1394
00:38:30,575 --> 00:38:32,317
agrees, well, good. Okay

1395
00:38:32,317 --> 00:38:34,186
. Thank you very much. The

1396
00:38:34,186 --> 00:38:36,216
next steps, as

1397
00:38:36,216 --> 00:38:38,247
Andrew indicated, are to send this

1398
00:38:38,247 --> 00:38:40,174
, in accordance with our procedures,

1399
00:38:40,174 --> 00:38:42,257
to the members of the Davis County Council

1400
00:38:42,257 --> 00:38:43,767
, so that the

1401
00:38:43,767 --> 00:38:45,589
council, and everyone in

1402
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:46,943
Davis County, is aware of the

1403
00:38:46,943 --> 00:38:48,878
project. We will review

1404
00:38:48,878 --> 00:38:50,488
the comments after the

1405
00:38:50,488 --> 00:38:51,850
comment period ends, which

1406
00:38:51,850 --> 00:38:53,294
will start tomorrow and end, I

1407
00:38:53,294 --> 00:38:54,656
believe, on

1408
00:38:54,656 --> 00:38:55,936
September 21st, and then we will

1409
00:38:55,936 --> 00:38:57,504
all be back, not in the

1410
00:38:57,504 --> 00:38:58,866
third week of

1411
00:38:58,866 --> 00:39:00,517
October, but in the

1412
00:39:00,517 --> 00:39:01,795
second week. Therefore, please

1413
00:39:01,795 --> 00:39:03,113
note that we will address

1414
00:39:03,113 --> 00:39:04,075
this topic at the

1415
00:39:04,075 --> 00:39:05,230
end. The

1416
00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:06,238
meeting of the

1417
00:39:06,238 --> 00:39:07,506
Regional Transport Board was brought forward

1418
00:39:07,506 --> 00:39:08,579
by a week due to the

1419
00:39:08,579 --> 00:39:09,890
autumn holiday in October. So

1420
00:39:09,890 --> 00:39:11,176
, on October 8th

1421
00:39:11,176 --> 00:39:12,462
, we will come back to you requesting a

1422
00:39:12,462 --> 00:39:13,782
proposal for the

1423
00:39:13,782 --> 00:39:14,967
Regional Council to approve at the

1424
00:39:14,967 --> 00:39:16,318
end of the month. These are our

1425
00:39:16,318 --> 00:39:17,852
current procedures.

1426
00:39:17,852 --> 00:39:19,524
Thank you all. Good.

1427
00:39:19,524 --> 00:39:21,522
Thank you very much. correct. The

1428
00:39:21,522 --> 00:39:23,128
following item is open

1429
00:39:23,128 --> 00:39:25,120
for discussion. We will talk about the

1430
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,518
question of whether we

1431
00:39:26,518 --> 00:39:28,528
should start over. The

1432
00:39:28,528 --> 00:39:30,244
secret transport weapon.

1433
00:39:30,244 --> 00:39:31,103
The state of Utah has been

1434
00:39:31,103 --> 00:39:32,288
very successful in building its

1435
00:39:32,288 --> 00:39:33,191
transportation network.

1436
00:39:33,191 --> 00:39:34,872
Despite the quality of what we do, we

1437
00:39:34,895 --> 00:39:35,783
always need more

1438
00:39:35,783 --> 00:39:36,675
help. It seems that the

1439
00:39:36,675 --> 00:39:37,607
money is

1440
00:39:37,607 --> 00:39:38,685
never enough. To what extent can

1441
00:39:38,685 --> 00:39:39,638
balancing

1442
00:39:39,638 --> 00:39:40,472
jobs and housing

1443
00:39:40,472 --> 00:39:41,426
improve our transportation outcomes

1444
00:39:41,426 --> 00:39:42,655
? While

1445
00:39:42,655 --> 00:39:44,111
Andrew is giving his presentation, I would like to invite

1446
00:39:44,111 --> 00:39:45,824
Cameron Dale. Will you join

1447
00:39:45,824 --> 00:39:47,363
us, Cam, because

1448
00:39:47,363 --> 00:39:49,287
you have a lot to contribute to

1449
00:39:49,287 --> 00:39:51,017
this discussion? Thank you,

1450
00:39:51,017 --> 00:39:51,737
Andrew.

1451
00:39:51,737 --> 00:39:53,607
Okay, excellent. Thank

1452
00:39:53,607 --> 00:39:55,339
you, Mayor Tran. Well

1453
00:39:55,339 --> 00:39:57,800
, at the Utah Transportation Research Center

1454
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,272
(WFRC),

1455
00:39:59,272 --> 00:40:00,918
we spend a lot of time

1456
00:40:00,918 --> 00:40:02,260
talking about mobility

1457
00:40:02,260 --> 00:40:03,689
and how to improve the

1458
00:40:03,689 --> 00:40:05,551
transportation system, right? This is the

1459
00:40:05,551 --> 00:40:09,020
essence of our work. And a little secret,

1460
00:40:09,020 --> 00:40:11,111
we're great at

1461
00:40:11,111 --> 00:40:13,202
transportation in Utah, aren't we

1462
00:40:13,202 --> 00:40:16,854
? We are nationally known for

1463
00:40:16,898 --> 00:40:18,355
our expertise in developing

1464
00:40:18,355 --> 00:40:20,000
and delivering transportation services.

1465
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,912
But here lies the problem

1466
00:40:21,912 --> 00:40:24,062
. Excellence in

1467
00:40:24,062 --> 00:40:25,921
transportation is not enough to achieve

1468
00:40:25,921 --> 00:40:27,860
excellent mobility. It is not

1469
00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:30,990
enough. So, what I would like to

1470
00:40:30,990 --> 00:40:32,904
invite you to do today is to

1471
00:40:32,904 --> 00:40:34,666
think a

1472
00:40:34,666 --> 00:40:36,580
little differently about transportation, and about the

1473
00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:38,494
transportation weapon which is perhaps

1474
00:40:38,494 --> 00:40:40,105
no secret, namely, the

1475
00:40:40,105 --> 00:40:41,969
balance between jobs

1476
00:40:41,969 --> 00:40:47,583
and housing. What we want to do

1477
00:40:47,583 --> 00:40:49,182
today is illustrate this

1478
00:40:49,182 --> 00:40:50,969
basic premise: that

1479
00:40:50,969 --> 00:40:52,521
balancing

1480
00:40:52,521 --> 00:40:53,838
jobs and housing

1481
00:40:53,838 --> 00:40:55,390
improves our transportation system

1482
00:40:55,390 --> 00:40:57,271
as much as

1483
00:40:57,271 --> 00:40:59,152
building more

1484
00:40:59,152 --> 00:41:02,842
infrastructure. Before we delve

1485
00:41:02,842 --> 00:41:04,850
into that, what I would like to show

1486
00:41:04,850 --> 00:41:09,496
you is the reality of

1487
00:41:09,496 --> 00:41:10,982
our transportation system. We

1488
00:41:10,982 --> 00:41:12,379
all feel this

1489
00:41:12,379 --> 00:41:14,046
pain and stress resulting

1490
00:41:14,046 --> 00:41:16,703
from traffic congestion.

1491
00:41:16,703 --> 00:41:17,815
What you see here on

1492
00:41:17,815 --> 00:41:20,262
the screen is from the

1493
00:41:20,299 --> 00:41:21,448
Utah State Department of

1494
00:41:21,448 --> 00:41:23,213
Transportation's Mobility Information Dashboard.

1495
00:41:23,213 --> 00:41:24,959
These are the estimated delay times on

1496
00:41:24,959 --> 00:41:26,661
Utah highways

1497
00:41:26,661 --> 00:41:29,397
. Okay, so what does

1498
00:41:29,397 --> 00:41:32,397
the delay mean? Imagine you are

1499
00:41:32,397 --> 00:41:34,539
traveling at a smooth speed

1500
00:41:34,539 --> 00:41:36,626
without traffic congestion, then

1501
00:41:36,626 --> 00:41:38,219
if congestion occurs, you will

1502
00:41:38,219 --> 00:41:39,723
slow down. This is the

1503
00:41:39,723 --> 00:41:42,640
delay. To put

1504
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,005
the numbers into perspective, after the pandemic

1505
00:41:45,005 --> 00:41:47,245
, delays on

1506
00:41:47,245 --> 00:41:49,735
Utah's highways increased

1507
00:41:49,735 --> 00:41:53,647
by 135%. These are the

1508
00:41:53,647 --> 00:41:55,498
numbers. But that's how we

1509
00:41:55,498 --> 00:41:58,109
all feel. We

1510
00:41:58,109 --> 00:42:00,225
all feel this: stress, and

1511
00:42:00,225 --> 00:42:03,326
wasting time due to

1512
00:42:03,326 --> 00:42:04,989
traffic jams. Not only

1513
00:42:04,989 --> 00:42:06,358
that, but also the

1514
00:42:06,358 --> 00:42:07,887
uncertainty that

1515
00:42:07,887 --> 00:42:09,376
we experience when we think: "I have to

1516
00:42:09,376 --> 00:42:10,664
travel a

1517
00:42:10,664 --> 00:42:12,274
long distance, and

1518
00:42:12,274 --> 00:42:13,843
the trip is supposed to take 45 minutes

1519
00:42:13,843 --> 00:42:15,373
, but I have to plan for a

1520
00:42:15,373 --> 00:42:16,902
whole hour because of the

1521
00:42:16,902 --> 00:42:18,840
uncertainty." This is something we

1522
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,671
all go through. Okay, so what do

1523
00:42:20,671 --> 00:42:22,548
we do about this?

1524
00:42:22,548 --> 00:42:24,355
How do we deal with

1525
00:42:24,355 --> 00:42:26,707
these transportation problems? Three

1526
00:42:26,707 --> 00:42:28,872
basic strategies.

1527
00:42:28,872 --> 00:42:30,628
Well, first of all, Utah is

1528
00:42:30,628 --> 00:42:32,536
building, and I've touched on

1529
00:42:32,536 --> 00:42:34,443
that before, but Utah is

1530
00:42:34,443 --> 00:42:36,351
great at developing

1531
00:42:36,351 --> 00:42:37,605
transportation, from roads and

1532
00:42:37,605 --> 00:42:38,911
public transport to

1533
00:42:38,911 --> 00:42:40,416
routes and providing

1534
00:42:40,416 --> 00:42:43,660
multiple options. We have a

1535
00:42:44,860 --> 00:42:46,299
nationally recognized unified transport plan, as shown

1536
00:42:46,299 --> 00:42:47,658
on the map here on the

1537
00:42:47,658 --> 00:42:49,186
screen. We have a

1538
00:42:49,186 --> 00:42:51,004
very outstanding performance record from the

1539
00:42:51,004 --> 00:42:52,822
Utah Department of Transportation, and are award-winning

1540
00:42:52,822 --> 00:42:54,276
from the

1541
00:42:54,276 --> 00:42:55,898
Utah Transportation Authority (UTA).

1542
00:42:55,898 --> 00:42:57,255
We have the highest

1543
00:42:57,255 --> 00:42:58,651
per capita investment in the transportation sector

1544
00:42:58,651 --> 00:43:00,124
nationwide when

1545
00:43:00,124 --> 00:43:01,598
looking at all sources of

1546
00:43:01,598 --> 00:43:03,963
funding. Over the

1547
00:43:04,003 --> 00:43:06,259
next ten years, say before the

1548
00:43:06,299 --> 00:43:07,589
Olympic Games, we will be

1549
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:09,160
developing and attracting hundreds of

1550
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,569
projects in the areas of

1551
00:43:10,569 --> 00:43:11,858
roads,

1552
00:43:11,858 --> 00:43:13,248
public transport and tracks.

1553
00:43:13,248 --> 00:43:14,823
So, the idea is that

1554
00:43:14,823 --> 00:43:16,352
we have abundant resources for

1555
00:43:16,352 --> 00:43:18,160
transport capacity and options, and

1556
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,643
we use them very efficiently

1557
00:43:19,643 --> 00:43:22,058
. But, and I don't think

1558
00:43:22,058 --> 00:43:23,550
this is a difficult opinion or a

1559
00:43:23,550 --> 00:43:25,235
fact, but it's not

1560
00:43:25,235 --> 00:43:26,823
controversial, I

1561
00:43:26,823 --> 00:43:28,652
think we can't

1562
00:43:28,652 --> 00:43:30,241
solve the

1563
00:43:30,241 --> 00:43:32,022
traffic congestion problem just by building roads

1564
00:43:32,022 --> 00:43:33,863
. That won't work.

1565
00:43:33,863 --> 00:43:36,829
Okay, so what should we do? The

1566
00:43:36,829 --> 00:43:38,623
second strategy

1567
00:43:38,623 --> 00:43:42,677
is for Utah to innovate. We are once again

1568
00:43:42,677 --> 00:43:43,959
recognized

1569
00:43:43,959 --> 00:43:44,952
nationwide for

1570
00:43:44,952 --> 00:43:46,483
our leadership in using

1571
00:43:46,483 --> 00:43:47,434
technology

1572
00:43:47,434 --> 00:43:48,758
and innovation to improve the

1573
00:43:48,758 --> 00:43:51,010
existing transportation system.

1574
00:43:51,010 --> 00:43:52,355
For example,

1575
00:43:52,355 --> 00:43:54,048
improved traffic signal timing

1576
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:55,698
,

1577
00:43:55,698 --> 00:43:57,087
connected and self-

1578
00:43:57,087 --> 00:43:58,650
driving vehicles, and

1579
00:43:58,650 --> 00:44:00,386
amazing developments in

1580
00:44:00,386 --> 00:44:02,030
advanced air transport.

1581
00:44:02,030 --> 00:44:03,462
The idea of ​​innovation lies in

1582
00:44:03,462 --> 00:44:05,310
making the most of the

1583
00:44:05,310 --> 00:44:06,649
transportation system

1584
00:44:06,649 --> 00:44:08,451
we have created, which we continue to

1585
00:44:08,451 --> 00:44:14,358
develop. But infrastructure development

1586
00:44:14,408 --> 00:44:16,086
and the use of innovation

1587
00:44:16,086 --> 00:44:17,617
in it focus on

1588
00:44:17,617 --> 00:44:19,592
increasing supply, i.e.,

1589
00:44:19,592 --> 00:44:21,221
maximizing its use,

1590
00:44:21,221 --> 00:44:22,949
but they do not address

1591
00:44:22,949 --> 00:44:24,578
demand, which is the

1592
00:44:24,578 --> 00:44:28,391
other driver. So how do we deal with

1593
00:44:28,391 --> 00:44:30,189
this? This leads us to the

1594
00:44:30,189 --> 00:44:31,906
third strategy

1595
00:44:31,906 --> 00:44:33,446
: achieving a balance between

1596
00:44:33,446 --> 00:44:34,899
jobs and housing in the

1597
00:44:34,899 --> 00:44:36,894
state of Utah. We all

1598
00:44:36,894 --> 00:44:38,856
understand this, don't we?

1599
00:44:38,856 --> 00:44:39,976
But when

1600
00:44:39,976 --> 00:44:41,595
homes and workplaces are far

1601
00:44:41,595 --> 00:44:42,675
apart,

1602
00:44:42,675 --> 00:44:44,211
journeys become longer and

1603
00:44:44,211 --> 00:44:46,200
roads become more congested.

1604
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,606
Therefore, if we achieve a

1605
00:44:47,606 --> 00:44:51,645
greater balance in

1606
00:44:51,645 --> 00:44:53,667
residential and work locations,

1607
00:44:53,667 --> 00:44:55,525
this will result in shorter commutes and

1608
00:44:55,525 --> 00:44:57,273
less pressure on the

1609
00:44:57,273 --> 00:45:01,402
transportation system. You may notice a

1610
00:45:01,402 --> 00:45:03,098
question mark

1611
00:45:03,098 --> 00:45:04,939
about this strategy

1612
00:45:04,939 --> 00:45:06,829
, because we see in it an

1613
00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:10,144
opportunity to improve transportation.

1614
00:45:10,144 --> 00:45:11,440
The relationship between

1615
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,880
land use

1616
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,480
and transportation is not new to the

1617
00:45:16,528 --> 00:45:18,352
Wasatch Transportation Board of Directors (WFRC); it is at the heart of the

1618
00:45:18,352 --> 00:45:20,036
"Wasatch Choice" vision.

1619
00:45:20,036 --> 00:45:21,771
But what we are proposing to you

1620
00:45:21,771 --> 00:45:24,278
today is that this well-

1621
00:45:24,326 --> 00:45:26,207
thought-out transport strategy, which

1622
00:45:26,207 --> 00:45:27,942
balances employment and

1623
00:45:27,942 --> 00:45:30,984
housing opportunities, is a way

1624
00:45:30,984 --> 00:45:32,511
to actually improve mobility

1625
00:45:32,511 --> 00:45:33,908
over

1626
00:45:33,908 --> 00:45:35,507
time. It's not about

1627
00:45:35,507 --> 00:45:36,865
transportation itself, but about

1628
00:45:36,865 --> 00:45:38,374
thinking about job opportunities,

1629
00:45:38,374 --> 00:45:39,506
housing, and the balance

1630
00:45:39,506 --> 00:45:40,995
between them. Why are we focusing

1631
00:45:40,995 --> 00:45:42,442
only on job opportunities?

1632
00:45:42,442 --> 00:45:43,427
Of course, we travel

1633
00:45:43,427 --> 00:45:44,603
for many reasons, but

1634
00:45:44,603 --> 00:45:46,082
work and daily commuting

1635
00:45:46,082 --> 00:45:47,334
represent peak

1636
00:45:47,334 --> 00:45:48,585
demand, and it is when the

1637
00:45:48,585 --> 00:45:49,874
worst

1638
00:45:49,874 --> 00:45:51,328
traffic congestion occurs. Therefore,

1639
00:45:51,328 --> 00:45:54,400
we focus on this aspect.

1640
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,893
Before I move on to the

1641
00:45:55,893 --> 00:45:57,834
next point, I want to make it

1642
00:45:57,834 --> 00:45:59,625
absolutely clear that we are

1643
00:45:59,625 --> 00:46:01,218
not talking about restricting

1644
00:46:01,218 --> 00:46:02,910
anyone’s choices

1645
00:46:02,910 --> 00:46:04,702
regarding their travel destination or

1646
00:46:04,702 --> 00:46:07,440
place of work. Good?

1647
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,586
People should have the freedom to

1648
00:46:09,586 --> 00:46:11,676
choose their destination, when

1649
00:46:11,676 --> 00:46:13,769
they travel, and where they work.

1650
00:46:13,769 --> 00:46:15,000
What we are talking about is

1651
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,364
trying to give people

1652
00:46:16,364 --> 00:46:18,123
more opportunities to live and

1653
00:46:18,123 --> 00:46:19,883
work in places closer together, and

1654
00:46:19,883 --> 00:46:21,599
to reduce the distances they

1655
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:23,176
travel. Good.

1656
00:46:23,176 --> 00:46:24,723
Again, Jordan, to tie

1657
00:46:24,723 --> 00:46:26,072
all of this together, there are

1658
00:46:26,072 --> 00:46:27,341
three

1659
00:46:27,341 --> 00:46:28,928
basic strategies for a high-

1660
00:46:28,928 --> 00:46:30,277
performance transportation system: building, that is,

1661
00:46:30,277 --> 00:46:31,864
adding more capacity

1662
00:46:31,864 --> 00:46:33,512
and options to the system.

1663
00:46:33,512 --> 00:46:35,098
We are good at that.

1664
00:46:35,098 --> 00:46:36,473
Innovation, i.e., improving the

1665
00:46:36,473 --> 00:46:38,017
system. We are good at

1666
00:46:38,017 --> 00:46:39,435
that too, and we are working on

1667
00:46:39,435 --> 00:46:41,257
it. And balance. There is an

1668
00:46:41,257 --> 00:46:42,972
opportunity for improvement in this

1669
00:46:42,972 --> 00:46:44,854
area. And now, I'll turn

1670
00:46:44,854 --> 00:46:46,418
to Bill Harr from

1671
00:46:46,418 --> 00:46:47,860
our analytics team.

1672
00:46:47,860 --> 00:46:51,235
Bill will share with you some

1673
00:46:51,281 --> 00:46:53,085
new data and analysis, presented

1674
00:46:53,085 --> 00:46:54,749
here for the first time, that

1675
00:46:54,749 --> 00:46:56,322
can help us

1676
00:46:56,322 --> 00:46:57,616
make our

1677
00:46:57,616 --> 00:46:59,623
future decisions. After

1678
00:46:59,623 --> 00:47:01,445
Bill finishes, I will return

1679
00:47:01,445 --> 00:47:04,123
to discuss how to improve

1680
00:47:04,123 --> 00:47:05,515
the balance between housing

1681
00:47:05,515 --> 00:47:12,342
and work. Bill: Thank

1682
00:47:12,342 --> 00:47:19,431
you, Andrew. It is a

1683
00:47:19,431 --> 00:47:20,796
pleasure to be here. I

1684
00:47:20,796 --> 00:47:21,982
usually spend my day in

1685
00:47:21,982 --> 00:47:23,273
front of a computer, so it's

1686
00:47:23,273 --> 00:47:24,530
nice to see people

1687
00:47:24,530 --> 00:47:26,081
face to face. In a few moments,

1688
00:47:26,081 --> 00:47:27,589
we will begin a journey together

1689
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:28,874
through this

1690
00:47:28,874 --> 00:47:31,039
electronic application.

1691
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:32,604
This application helps us understand the

1692
00:47:32,604 --> 00:47:33,994
regional impact of the

1693
00:47:33,994 --> 00:47:35,428
housing-

1694
00:47:35,428 --> 00:47:36,384
employment balance in

1695
00:47:36,384 --> 00:47:39,137
our communities.

1696
00:47:39,137 --> 00:47:40,984
The app relies on data from the

1697
00:47:40,984 --> 00:47:42,601
statistics office showing

1698
00:47:42,601 --> 00:47:43,940
where people live

1699
00:47:43,940 --> 00:47:47,138
and where they work.

1700
00:47:47,138 --> 00:47:48,882
Our focus in this tool is

1701
00:47:48,882 --> 00:47:50,247
on business trips.

1702
00:47:50,247 --> 00:47:51,819
And why business trips?

1703
00:47:51,819 --> 00:47:53,394
Andrew has spoken about this

1704
00:47:53,394 --> 00:47:54,794
before. Business travel

1705
00:47:54,794 --> 00:47:55,885
is the main cause of

1706
00:47:55,885 --> 00:47:57,188
traffic congestion during

1707
00:47:57,188 --> 00:47:58,417
peak hours. We have

1708
00:47:58,417 --> 00:47:59,677
designed our transportation system

1709
00:47:59,677 --> 00:48:01,222
to handle these

1710
00:48:01,222 --> 00:48:02,716
busy times.

1711
00:48:02,716 --> 00:48:04,449
If we can reduce the

1712
00:48:04,449 --> 00:48:05,886
pressure on our roads

1713
00:48:05,886 --> 00:48:07,372
during this time, we will make a

1714
00:48:07,372 --> 00:48:10,019
big difference. But

1715
00:48:10,019 --> 00:48:11,499
before we start using

1716
00:48:11,499 --> 00:48:13,020
the app, let's think a

1717
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:14,664
little about what the balance

1718
00:48:14,664 --> 00:48:16,309
between housing and jobs looks like in our

1719
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:18,133
region and communities.

1720
00:48:18,133 --> 00:48:20,206
Every morning, thousands of

1721
00:48:20,206 --> 00:48:22,394
people leave your city for work

1722
00:48:22,394 --> 00:48:24,352
, and thousands

1723
00:48:24,352 --> 00:48:27,516
more come to it. So, let me ask

1724
00:48:27,516 --> 00:48:28,889
you this question:

1725
00:48:28,889 --> 00:48:30,307
Looking at the

1726
00:48:30,307 --> 00:48:31,953
Wasatch Front area, what

1727
00:48:31,953 --> 00:48:33,554
percentage of people

1728
00:48:33,554 --> 00:48:35,384
live and work in the same

1729
00:48:35,384 --> 00:48:39,258
city? And what about

1730
00:48:39,258 --> 00:48:42,495
your city? What is your opinion? On

1731
00:48:42,495 --> 00:48:44,250
average, city by city

1732
00:48:44,250 --> 00:48:47,336
, what do you think? 40%

1733
00:48:47,336 --> 00:48:49,473
live and work in the same

1734
00:48:49,473 --> 00:48:51,184
city. Do you have any

1735
00:48:51,184 --> 00:48:57,538
other guesses? I'll guess,

1736
00:48:57,538 --> 00:48:59,732
because we have some

1737
00:48:59,732 --> 00:49:02,420
big cities, 70%.

1738
00:49:02,420 --> 00:49:04,380
Good. I

1739
00:49:04,380 --> 00:49:06,685
was guessing a lower percentage. This is

1740
00:49:06,685 --> 00:49:07,854
very optimistic.

1741
00:49:07,854 --> 00:49:08,997
I think we're approaching the

1742
00:49:08,997 --> 00:49:10,613
upper limit here. Yes. I

1743
00:49:10,613 --> 00:49:12,417
would just say it might

1744
00:49:12,417 --> 00:49:13,395
be 20%.

1745
00:49:13,395 --> 00:49:14,659
So, I think

1746
00:49:14,659 --> 00:49:15,923
Salt Lake City is approaching

1747
00:49:15,923 --> 00:49:17,047
that, and approaching the

1748
00:49:17,047 --> 00:49:18,416
upper limit in your city

1749
00:49:18,416 --> 00:49:20,491
. Yes. I

1750
00:49:20,491 --> 00:49:21,855
will return it.

1751
00:49:21,855 --> 00:49:22,955
Speaking on the

1752
00:49:22,955 --> 00:49:24,221
other side, I would say we're at

1753
00:49:24,221 --> 00:49:25,572
Harman 10% or less. So

1754
00:49:25,572 --> 00:49:27,293
I say, and perhaps I'm not speaking

1755
00:49:27,293 --> 00:49:28,934
uniquely, I would say 10.

1756
00:49:28,934 --> 00:49:30,294
That's what I would do

1757
00:49:30,294 --> 00:49:30,874
too,

1758
00:49:30,874 --> 00:49:31,969
but that applies to

1759
00:49:31,969 --> 00:49:33,475
Morgan County. Since I do

1760
00:49:33,575 --> 00:49:34,781
n't know the methodology you

1761
00:49:34,781 --> 00:49:35,958
use, I will present some

1762
00:49:35,958 --> 00:49:36,924
interesting data

1763
00:49:36,924 --> 00:49:38,872
. Yes,

1764
00:49:38,972 --> 00:49:40,457
Salt Lake City has a

1765
00:49:40,457 --> 00:49:42,025
nighttime population of about 215,000

1766
00:49:42,025 --> 00:49:43,262
, while

1767
00:49:43,262 --> 00:49:44,913
its daytime population is double that

1768
00:49:44,913 --> 00:49:46,310
number. The population of

1769
00:49:46,310 --> 00:49:47,521
Murray at night is

1770
00:49:47,521 --> 00:49:48,768
slightly less than 50,000

1771
00:49:48,768 --> 00:49:50,162
, while its

1772
00:49:50,162 --> 00:49:51,299
daytime population, including the

1773
00:49:51,299 --> 00:49:52,657
workforce, is around

1774
00:49:52,657 --> 00:49:57,554
120,000. In

1775
00:49:57,554 --> 00:49:58,951
Park City, less than 10% of the

1776
00:49:58,951 --> 00:50:00,471
population is employed. These are

1777
00:50:00,471 --> 00:50:02,133
just extreme, individual examples

1778
00:50:02,133 --> 00:50:03,761
. As for

1779
00:50:03,761 --> 00:50:05,007
Tula County, I

1780
00:50:05,007 --> 00:50:06,443
recently saw that about

1781
00:50:06,443 --> 00:50:07,803
75% of its residents commute

1782
00:50:07,803 --> 00:50:09,276
daily outside the county

1783
00:50:09,276 --> 00:50:09,792
for work.

1784
00:50:09,792 --> 00:50:11,298
Yes, 75% of the population is

1785
00:50:11,298 --> 00:50:13,156
leaving Tula County and

1786
00:50:13,156 --> 00:50:15,064
coming to the Salt Lake Valley

1787
00:50:15,064 --> 00:50:16,409
. Again, since I do

1788
00:50:16,409 --> 00:50:17,732
n't know the methodology

1789
00:50:17,732 --> 00:50:18,790
you use,

1790
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:20,113
these are just a few examples

1791
00:50:20,113 --> 00:50:21,403
of how the data appears

1792
00:50:21,403 --> 00:50:23,098
by location. Good.

1793
00:50:23,098 --> 00:50:24,911
The answer is that, according to

1794
00:50:24,911 --> 00:50:26,342
our methodology,

1795
00:50:26,342 --> 00:50:28,108
about 10% or less

1796
00:50:28,108 --> 00:50:29,730
on average live and work across the

1797
00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:31,544
region in the same

1798
00:50:31,544 --> 00:50:43,004
city. This means that 90

1799
00:50:43,004 --> 00:50:44,751
% of people are leaving

1800
00:50:44,751 --> 00:50:46,936
their city to work

1801
00:50:46,936 --> 00:50:48,596
elsewhere. This puts a

1802
00:50:48,596 --> 00:50:50,340
lot of pressure on our transport network

1803
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:53,175
, our roads, our

1804
00:50:53,218 --> 00:50:55,020
public transport, and all of that. Therefore,

1805
00:50:55,020 --> 00:50:56,546
we will do something that should

1806
00:50:56,546 --> 00:50:58,405
never be done in a meeting: a

1807
00:50:58,405 --> 00:51:05,388
live demonstration.

1808
00:51:05,388 --> 00:51:08,065
Good. The reason is that I have to

1809
00:51:08,065 --> 00:51:09,309
stop

1810
00:51:09,309 --> 00:51:11,043
sharing because I am

1811
00:51:11,043 --> 00:51:12,688
only sharing the window, and I will start

1812
00:51:12,688 --> 00:51:24,153
sharing the screen. Good

1813
00:51:24,153 --> 00:51:26,938
. Here in the web application,

1814
00:51:26,938 --> 00:51:28,699
in the middle, you will see that

1815
00:51:28,699 --> 00:51:30,043
this is our area, and

1816
00:51:30,043 --> 00:51:31,758
you can see the lines

1817
00:51:31,758 --> 00:51:33,612
on the map that show

1818
00:51:33,612 --> 00:51:35,280
where people move to and from

1819
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,202
. And now, as you can see,

1820
00:51:37,202 --> 00:51:39,108
this is the area of ​​the Two Holy Mosques.

1821
00:51:39,108 --> 00:51:40,597
I believe the mayor of the Two

1822
00:51:40,597 --> 00:51:42,062
Holy Mosques is here.

1823
00:51:42,062 --> 00:51:44,208
Okay, let me explain the

1824
00:51:44,208 --> 00:51:45,614
transportation route between Herman and

1825
00:51:45,614 --> 00:51:48,289
Salt Lake City. The

1826
00:51:48,289 --> 00:51:50,156
longer the line, the more

1827
00:51:50,156 --> 00:51:51,758
users it has. Therefore, the

1828
00:51:51,758 --> 00:51:52,790
Salt Lake City-

1829
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:54,098
Herman-Salt Lake City route is a

1830
00:51:54,098 --> 00:51:55,472
very attractive destination.

1831
00:51:55,472 --> 00:51:56,936
Here at the top left we can see

1832
00:51:56,936 --> 00:51:58,539
the number of people

1833
00:51:58,539 --> 00:52:00,324
who leave Hermann

1834
00:52:00,324 --> 00:52:02,109
daily to commute, which is

1835
00:52:02,109 --> 00:52:04,367
about 29,000 people.

1836
00:52:04,367 --> 00:52:05,890
This number also appears here

1837
00:52:05,890 --> 00:52:08,505
on the side. We have 29,000

1838
00:52:08,505 --> 00:52:11,015
people. But we also have

1839
00:52:11,015 --> 00:52:12,776
about 5% of the population

1840
00:52:12,776 --> 00:52:14,991
living and working

1841
00:52:14,991 --> 00:52:20,261
in Herman, that is 1,600 people.

1842
00:52:20,261 --> 00:52:21,980
That is, they reside within the

1843
00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:24,336
city. We can also

1844
00:52:24,336 --> 00:52:25,587
change this display

1845
00:52:25,587 --> 00:52:27,053
to see where

1846
00:52:27,053 --> 00:52:28,734
people come from to work at Herman's

1847
00:52:28,734 --> 00:52:32,050
. We have 5,800 people who work

1848
00:52:32,050 --> 00:52:34,098
in Herman or live

1849
00:52:34,098 --> 00:52:36,146
and work in other cities

1850
00:52:36,146 --> 00:52:37,909
, and that number is

1851
00:52:37,909 --> 00:52:43,800
here. So,

1852
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,653
the bottom line is that 95% of

1853
00:52:45,653 --> 00:52:47,731
Herman's residents leave

1854
00:52:47,731 --> 00:52:49,527
the city using the

1855
00:52:49,527 --> 00:52:51,773
transportation network to reach

1856
00:52:51,773 --> 00:52:58,283
other destinations. But

1857
00:52:58,283 --> 00:52:59,926
we can also explore

1858
00:52:59,926 --> 00:53:01,673
other communities. So, is

1859
00:53:01,673 --> 00:53:03,034
there anyone from outside

1860
00:53:03,034 --> 00:53:04,759
Salt Lake County who would like

1861
00:53:04,759 --> 00:53:06,583
to see his community? We can

1862
00:53:06,583 --> 00:53:09,178
take Bounty Fall as an example.

1863
00:53:09,178 --> 00:53:19,169
Bounty Fall. Good. In

1864
00:53:19,169 --> 00:53:21,651
Bounty Fall, 19,000

1865
00:53:21,651 --> 00:53:25,449
residents are leaving their community.

1866
00:53:25,449 --> 00:53:27,175
Make sure they don't forget their

1867
00:53:27,175 --> 00:53:31,185
wallets and bags.

1868
00:53:31,185 --> 00:53:32,881
We are pleased to contribute from

1869
00:53:32,881 --> 00:53:34,678
Davis County as a whole to

1870
00:53:34,678 --> 00:53:36,106
supporting your region,

1871
00:53:36,106 --> 00:53:37,997
whether we head north or

1872
00:53:37,997 --> 00:53:39,900
south. Welcome,

1873
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:44,683
Mayor. In Bounty Fall,

1874
00:53:44,683 --> 00:53:46,074
according to the

1875
00:53:46,074 --> 00:53:48,335
regional average,

1876
00:53:48,335 --> 00:53:50,074
10% of the population lives and works within

1877
00:53:50,074 --> 00:53:51,987
Bounty Fall, while

1878
00:53:51,987 --> 00:53:59,726
11,000 workers come to it.

1879
00:53:59,726 --> 00:54:05,695
To illustrate how to improve the

1880
00:54:05,695 --> 00:54:07,249
work-

1881
00:54:07,249 --> 00:54:08,844
housing balance, how

1882
00:54:08,844 --> 00:54:10,272
this can reduce

1883
00:54:10,272 --> 00:54:11,825
commuting times, and to see the

1884
00:54:11,825 --> 00:54:13,253
difference it can

1885
00:54:13,253 --> 00:54:16,150
make, we used a

1886
00:54:16,192 --> 00:54:22,354
regional travel demand model. We looked at what

1887
00:54:22,354 --> 00:54:24,015
would happen, in a

1888
00:54:24,015 --> 00:54:27,164
hypothetical scenario. What would happen

1889
00:54:27,164 --> 00:54:28,802
if 10% of the

1890
00:54:28,802 --> 00:54:30,270
city's residents who

1891
00:54:30,270 --> 00:54:32,360
leave found a job, i.e., a

1892
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,336
new opportunity, within it, and

1893
00:54:34,336 --> 00:54:38,159
stayed to commute?

1894
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:39,622
For Hiraman,

1895
00:54:39,622 --> 00:54:41,085
this will amount to approximately 3,000

1896
00:54:41,085 --> 00:54:42,806
residents who have found a new opportunity

1897
00:54:42,806 --> 00:54:44,140
within the city and have not had to

1898
00:54:44,140 --> 00:54:45,833
travel outside of it.

1899
00:54:45,833 --> 00:54:47,420
If we applied this

1900
00:54:47,420 --> 00:54:48,714
same logic to the

1901
00:54:48,714 --> 00:54:50,301
entire region, that is, every city

1902
00:54:50,301 --> 00:54:51,513
along the

1903
00:54:51,513 --> 00:54:52,891
Wasatch Front, up to and including

1904
00:54:52,891 --> 00:54:54,394
Salt Lake City, attracted an additional 10%

1905
00:54:54,394 --> 00:54:55,773
of the population,

1906
00:54:55,773 --> 00:54:57,151
what would happen to

1907
00:54:57,151 --> 00:55:00,217
our transportation system? Here we have

1908
00:55:00,217 --> 00:55:01,873
one in 10 people

1909
00:55:01,873 --> 00:55:03,987
leaving who will stay, and this will

1910
00:55:03,987 --> 00:55:05,758
result in a 23% reduction in

1911
00:55:05,758 --> 00:55:07,586
traffic congestion

1912
00:55:07,586 --> 00:55:10,789
. I would like to point out

1913
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:12,364
that even if we look

1914
00:55:12,364 --> 00:55:13,854
at the bigger picture, the

1915
00:55:13,854 --> 00:55:15,089
number will remain almost the same

1916
00:55:15,089 --> 00:55:16,713
. For example, if it is

1917
00:55:16,713 --> 00:55:17,881
limited to a

1918
00:55:17,881 --> 00:55:19,128
group of cities, the

1919
00:55:19,128 --> 00:55:20,457
reduction in

1920
00:55:20,457 --> 00:55:22,156
congestion will still be significant. So,

1921
00:55:22,156 --> 00:55:23,765
if you think we can’t

1922
00:55:23,765 --> 00:55:25,417
apply this to

1923
00:55:25,417 --> 00:55:27,156
every city, the situation remains the

1924
00:55:27,156 --> 00:55:27,909
same.

1925
00:55:27,909 --> 00:55:32,430
correct. correct. Good.

1926
00:55:32,430 --> 00:55:36,230
23%, that's a significant decrease.

1927
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:37,762
Imagine the scale of investment

1928
00:55:37,762 --> 00:55:39,513
required in the transport sector

1929
00:55:39,513 --> 00:55:41,133
to achieve a similar reduction

1930
00:55:41,133 --> 00:55:46,070
in delays. We have studied

1931
00:55:46,070 --> 00:55:49,205
many numbers.

1932
00:55:49,205 --> 00:55:50,603
Excuse me, why such a

1933
00:55:50,603 --> 00:55:53,560
big impact?

1934
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,386
Well, roads behave

1935
00:55:57,386 --> 00:55:58,639
differently when they are

1936
00:55:58,639 --> 00:56:00,348
congested. When you take

1937
00:56:00,348 --> 00:56:01,503
the road early in the morning and

1938
00:56:01,503 --> 00:56:02,993
find no one,

1939
00:56:02,993 --> 00:56:04,483
you can add more

1940
00:56:04,483 --> 00:56:05,899
cars without causing

1941
00:56:05,899 --> 00:56:07,266
any significant problems.

1942
00:56:07,266 --> 00:56:08,528
But when

1943
00:56:08,528 --> 00:56:10,034
the road is nearing full capacity,

1944
00:56:10,034 --> 00:56:11,255
any

1945
00:56:11,255 --> 00:56:12,599
additional traffic, i.e.,

1946
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:13,942
new cars on the road,

1947
00:56:13,942 --> 00:56:15,508
has a significant impact.

1948
00:56:15,508 --> 00:56:16,620
It exceeds the

1949
00:56:16,620 --> 00:56:18,000
allowed limit, and this is where the

1950
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,998
congestion

1951
00:56:18,998 --> 00:56:20,203
and delays arise. The same applies

1952
00:56:20,203 --> 00:56:21,600
in the

1953
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,103
opposite direction. When you reduce

1954
00:56:23,103 --> 00:56:24,167
the number of

1955
00:56:24,167 --> 00:56:25,193
cars by even a small amount, the

1956
00:56:25,193 --> 00:56:27,411
impact is significant.

1957
00:56:27,451 --> 00:56:29,028
Long journeys are particularly important

1958
00:56:29,028 --> 00:56:30,604
, as they strain road capacity

1959
00:56:30,604 --> 00:56:32,221
in our region during

1960
00:56:32,221 --> 00:56:33,464
peak times. Therefore,

1961
00:56:33,464 --> 00:56:34,583
providing more

1962
00:56:34,583 --> 00:56:35,933
options near

1963
00:56:35,933 --> 00:56:37,384
home relieves the pressure.

1964
00:56:37,384 --> 00:56:38,767
As our model shows, this

1965
00:56:38,767 --> 00:56:40,039
can

1966
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:41,448
significantly reduce the delay.

1967
00:56:41,448 --> 00:56:42,711
Is this model available for

1968
00:56:42,711 --> 00:56:43,798
us to use or

1969
00:56:43,798 --> 00:56:45,026
test on the

1970
00:56:45,026 --> 00:56:47,131
website, or is it for

1971
00:56:47,167 --> 00:56:48,079
internal use only? The

1972
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:49,634
web application is available

1973
00:56:49,634 --> 00:56:50,172
on the

1974
00:56:50,172 --> 00:56:51,223
website and anyone can

1975
00:56:51,223 --> 00:56:52,244
use it. I think it was

1976
00:56:52,244 --> 00:56:53,042
in our newsletter

1977
00:56:53,042 --> 00:56:53,915
a few

1978
00:56:53,915 --> 00:56:54,240
months ago.

1979
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:55,908
Oh, really? Well, I

1980
00:56:55,908 --> 00:56:56,627
missed that.

1981
00:56:56,627 --> 00:56:58,282
Yes, we can send it. It was

1982
00:56:58,282 --> 00:57:00,085
so and we will send it

1983
00:57:00,085 --> 00:57:01,650
again, and you can

1984
00:57:01,650 --> 00:57:03,454
click on your community,

1985
00:57:03,454 --> 00:57:05,209
county or

1986
00:57:05,209 --> 00:57:06,538
legislative district and view

1987
00:57:06,538 --> 00:57:07,819
the numbers in both

1988
00:57:07,819 --> 00:57:09,318
directions. You can

1989
00:57:09,318 --> 00:57:10,697
see not only the total

1990
00:57:10,697 --> 00:57:12,037
flows, but also the

1991
00:57:12,037 --> 00:57:13,262
other communities

1992
00:57:13,262 --> 00:57:14,449
that people travel to

1993
00:57:14,449 --> 00:57:16,178
. It is a rich source of

1994
00:57:16,178 --> 00:57:17,981
data. Cameron is

1995
00:57:17,981 --> 00:57:19,446
already excited about it.

1996
00:57:19,446 --> 00:57:20,635
Okay, we'll send it

1997
00:57:20,635 --> 00:57:21,824
again and everyone can

1998
00:57:21,824 --> 00:57:22,617
check out

1999
00:57:22,617 --> 00:57:24,059
their own community or any

2000
00:57:24,059 --> 00:57:25,565
other community to explore the area.

2001
00:57:25,565 --> 00:57:29,108
Thank you all. Okay, we've

2002
00:57:29,108 --> 00:57:32,447
looked at a lot of

2003
00:57:33,917 --> 00:57:35,564
great data, information, and charts, but we want to

2004
00:57:35,564 --> 00:57:37,611
change the subject a bit.

2005
00:57:37,611 --> 00:57:39,434
What we were talking about affects

2006
00:57:39,434 --> 00:57:41,118
people, it affects

2007
00:57:41,118 --> 00:57:42,715
everyone in our area.

2008
00:57:42,715 --> 00:57:44,574
This affects our lives

2009
00:57:44,574 --> 00:57:47,466
and how we live them. So

2010
00:57:47,466 --> 00:57:48,825
, I'm going to share with you the story of

2011
00:57:48,825 --> 00:57:50,737
Cameron, who lives in

2012
00:57:50,737 --> 00:57:54,090
Harman. Cameron is

2013
00:57:54,090 --> 00:57:55,470
an accountant at a

2014
00:57:55,470 --> 00:57:58,589
medical logistics company here in the

2015
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,100
nearby Gateway area. Her

2016
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:01,697
daily commute to

2017
00:58:01,697 --> 00:58:03,202
Herman during

2018
00:58:03,202 --> 00:58:04,982
peak hours takes 39 minutes in the morning

2019
00:58:04,982 --> 00:58:06,396
and 51 minutes in the afternoon to

2020
00:58:06,396 --> 00:58:08,117
return. That's 90 minutes

2021
00:58:08,117 --> 00:58:10,768
a day on our roads.

2022
00:58:10,768 --> 00:58:12,221
Cameron had hoped to

2023
00:58:12,221 --> 00:58:13,599
get a job at a

2024
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:14,937
company that had recently moved

2025
00:58:14,937 --> 00:58:17,451
to Herman's city center to

2026
00:58:17,451 --> 00:58:19,099
shorten her commute time, and she

2027
00:58:19,099 --> 00:58:20,513
got that

2028
00:58:20,513 --> 00:58:22,216
job. What a

2029
00:58:22,216 --> 00:58:23,993
fantastic thing for Cameron! Now,

2030
00:58:23,993 --> 00:58:26,420
her journey time is

2031
00:58:26,420 --> 00:58:29,168
only 15 minutes a day. That means she

2032
00:58:29,168 --> 00:58:31,001
can now

2033
00:58:31,001 --> 00:58:32,935
spend 75 minutes with her family. She

2034
00:58:32,935 --> 00:58:34,007
could also spend

2035
00:58:34,007 --> 00:58:35,112
more time on

2036
00:58:35,112 --> 00:58:36,119
her hobby of

2037
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:37,458
pottery making. She makes the cups

2038
00:58:37,458 --> 00:58:39,805
and hopes to sell them at the

2039
00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:41,132
Herman craft market at the weekend

2040
00:58:41,132 --> 00:58:43,168
. It also

2041
00:58:43,168 --> 00:58:45,128
travels

2042
00:58:45,128 --> 00:58:46,794
45 miles less per day on our

2043
00:58:46,794 --> 00:58:49,162
road network. This saves

2044
00:58:49,162 --> 00:58:50,911
her money on her

2045
00:58:50,911 --> 00:58:54,410
car's upkeep and fuel.

2046
00:58:54,410 --> 00:58:56,059
But it's not

2047
00:58:56,059 --> 00:58:57,903
just the woman who benefits; she also benefits

2048
00:58:57,903 --> 00:58:59,504
because her shorter commute

2049
00:58:59,504 --> 00:59:01,944
reduces pressure on the roads.

2050
00:59:01,944 --> 00:59:03,602
All her neighbors, who

2051
00:59:03,602 --> 00:59:05,178
still have to travel

2052
00:59:05,178 --> 00:59:06,712
that long distance

2053
00:59:06,712 --> 00:59:08,164
to get to their jobs

2054
00:59:08,164 --> 00:59:09,242
outside the city,

2055
00:59:09,242 --> 00:59:10,776
benefit because she works

2056
00:59:10,776 --> 00:59:12,579
close to them. This reduces

2057
00:59:12,579 --> 00:59:15,944
pressure on the roads.

2058
00:59:15,944 --> 00:59:17,547
Now imagine, whether

2059
00:59:17,547 --> 00:59:19,196
all of us or some of us,

2060
00:59:19,196 --> 00:59:20,570
this happening across the

2061
00:59:20,570 --> 00:59:22,330
region. Having more

2062
00:59:22,330 --> 00:59:23,377
people work

2063
00:59:23,377 --> 00:59:24,567
closer to their homes

2064
00:59:24,567 --> 00:59:25,866
could make a

2065
00:59:25,866 --> 00:59:27,237
big difference to the efficiency of

2066
00:59:27,237 --> 00:59:30,260
our transportation system. This will help us make

2067
00:59:30,301 --> 00:59:31,709
better use of the routes

2068
00:59:31,709 --> 00:59:33,323
and other transport options

2069
00:59:33,323 --> 00:59:34,937
available to us, as well as the

2070
00:59:34,937 --> 00:59:36,303
improvements we are

2071
00:59:36,303 --> 00:59:43,841
planning. Well done,

2072
00:59:43,841 --> 00:59:45,821
Bill, thank you very much.

2073
00:59:45,821 --> 00:59:46,903
I am very impressed with

2074
00:59:46,903 --> 00:59:48,634
the data and analytics we

2075
00:59:48,634 --> 00:59:50,236
can produce to

2076
00:59:50,236 --> 00:59:51,837
help us make

2077
00:59:51,837 --> 00:59:53,293
better decisions. So,

2078
00:59:53,293 --> 00:59:54,457
here's the

2079
00:59:54,457 --> 00:59:56,025
basic premise again, right

2080
00:59:56,025 --> 00:59:57,454
?

2081
00:59:57,454 --> 00:59:58,560
Balancing jobs and

2082
00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,547
housing benefits

2083
00:59:59,547 --> 01:00:00,624
our transportation system as much as

2084
01:00:00,624 --> 01:00:01,760
building more

2085
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,988
infrastructure. This

2086
01:00:02,988 --> 01:00:04,540
is the main point.

2087
01:00:04,540 --> 01:00:06,343
Okay, so what do we do

2088
01:00:06,343 --> 01:00:08,221
? How can we improve that?

2089
01:00:08,221 --> 01:00:09,623
Let me preface this

2090
01:00:09,623 --> 01:00:11,025
discussion a little

2091
01:00:11,025 --> 01:00:12,554
by pointing out who

2092
01:00:12,554 --> 01:00:14,174
changes the slides? Bill

2093
01:00:14,174 --> 01:00:15,811
is changing the chips. Okay

2094
01:00:15,811 --> 01:00:16,981
, now I'm referring to

2095
01:00:16,981 --> 01:00:18,739
Jordan. Nothing happens.

2096
01:00:18,739 --> 01:00:21,120
Good. First, let me

2097
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,800
point out that we were

2098
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,332
talking about the geography of

2099
01:00:24,332 --> 01:00:26,187
the city, right? But

2100
01:00:26,187 --> 01:00:29,156
this is only to illustrate this

2101
01:00:29,156 --> 01:00:30,808
dynamic. But

2102
01:00:30,808 --> 01:00:32,682
addressing these issues

2103
01:00:32,682 --> 01:00:34,268
requires achieving a

2104
01:00:34,268 --> 01:00:36,243
better balance, which will require the participation of all of us.

2105
01:00:36,243 --> 01:00:38,101
This is not

2106
01:00:38,101 --> 01:00:39,788
just a case for one city. It is

2107
01:00:39,788 --> 01:00:41,528
essentially a regional issue

2108
01:00:41,528 --> 01:00:43,173
concerning the interaction of

2109
01:00:43,173 --> 01:00:44,495
transportation systems. Therefore,

2110
01:00:44,495 --> 01:00:45,903
local governments,

2111
01:00:45,903 --> 01:00:46,959
transport authorities and

2112
01:00:46,959 --> 01:00:48,543
government agencies,

2113
01:00:48,543 --> 01:00:49,688
landowners and

2114
01:00:49,688 --> 01:00:51,184
developers, and

2115
01:00:51,184 --> 01:00:52,856
economic development bodies are

2116
01:00:52,856 --> 01:00:54,396
all stakeholders,

2117
01:00:54,396 --> 01:00:56,282
including us. We all

2118
01:00:56,282 --> 01:00:58,882
have a role to play in this. So

2119
01:00:58,882 --> 01:01:00,710
let's talk about this. I'm

2120
01:01:00,710 --> 01:01:02,204
going to give you two

2121
01:01:02,204 --> 01:01:03,879
main ways of thinking about

2122
01:01:03,879 --> 01:01:05,509
this, and then let's have a

2123
01:01:05,509 --> 01:01:06,913
conversation about how to

2124
01:01:06,913 --> 01:01:08,679
address improving the balance

2125
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:11,401
between jobs and housing. The

2126
01:01:11,401 --> 01:01:12,840
first idea is to

2127
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,862
identify

2128
01:01:13,862 --> 01:01:15,442
strategic locations to achieve a

2129
01:01:15,442 --> 01:01:17,207
balance between housing and

2130
01:01:17,207 --> 01:01:18,943
job opportunities. So, think about where

2131
01:01:18,943 --> 01:01:20,534
we can add jobs in

2132
01:01:20,534 --> 01:01:22,005
areas with

2133
01:01:22,005 --> 01:01:23,357
large populations,

2134
01:01:23,357 --> 01:01:24,630
giving them the opportunity to

2135
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:25,783
work close to

2136
01:01:25,783 --> 01:01:27,428
their homes. Mr. Mayor

2137
01:01:27,428 --> 01:01:28,679
Hammond, I am thinking of

2138
01:01:28,679 --> 01:01:30,146
Grantsville and

2139
01:01:30,146 --> 01:01:31,483
Tilla County, and as you mentioned

2140
01:01:31,483 --> 01:01:32,648
earlier, how many

2141
01:01:32,648 --> 01:01:33,769
people

2142
01:01:33,769 --> 01:01:35,279
travel on

2143
01:01:35,279 --> 01:01:36,918
I-80 to

2144
01:01:36,918 --> 01:01:38,385
Salt Lake County in the morning and then

2145
01:01:38,385 --> 01:01:40,084
back? Well, there is a

2146
01:01:40,084 --> 01:01:41,624
lot of talk about creating a

2147
01:01:41,624 --> 01:01:43,163
nuclear complex that will have thousands of

2148
01:01:43,163 --> 01:01:44,657
jobs, and we hope that

2149
01:01:44,657 --> 01:01:46,060
these jobs will be for

2150
01:01:46,060 --> 01:01:47,645
the residents of Tilla County,

2151
01:01:47,645 --> 01:01:48,958
so that the residents of

2152
01:01:48,958 --> 01:01:50,542
Grantsville can work

2153
01:01:50,542 --> 01:01:52,308
there, reducing

2154
01:01:52,308 --> 01:01:54,158
their commuting time. Think of

2155
01:01:54,158 --> 01:01:55,853
our friends in Saratoga

2156
01:01:55,853 --> 01:01:57,504
Springs and Eagle Mountain

2157
01:01:57,504 --> 01:01:58,894
, where there is ample housing available

2158
01:01:58,894 --> 01:02:00,546
, and what they have accomplished in

2159
01:02:00,546 --> 01:02:02,197
this area is amazing, but

2160
01:02:02,197 --> 01:02:03,457
job opportunities are

2161
01:02:03,457 --> 01:02:04,891
relatively few, and this

2162
01:02:04,891 --> 01:02:06,559
greatly impacts transportation.

2163
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:08,324
So, where are the

2164
01:02:08,324 --> 01:02:10,188
strategic locations to achieve a

2165
01:02:10,188 --> 01:02:12,052
balance between housing and

2166
01:02:12,052 --> 01:02:13,795
job opportunities? This is

2167
01:02:13,795 --> 01:02:15,659
clearly embodied in a large part of

2168
01:02:15,659 --> 01:02:17,624
our work in the vision of "Wasatch

2169
01:02:17,624 --> 01:02:20,598
Choice". Secondly, coordinating

2170
01:02:20,598 --> 01:02:23,713
our efforts. Incentives for

2171
01:02:23,713 --> 01:02:25,680
economic development, for

2172
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,597
example, where do we incentivize

2173
01:02:27,597 --> 01:02:31,825
job creation? Where do we seek

2174
01:02:31,825 --> 01:02:34,378
to stimulate and attract jobs?

2175
01:02:34,378 --> 01:02:35,903
What is the location? Connecting

2176
01:02:35,903 --> 01:02:37,263
roads to the public transport network

2177
01:02:37,263 --> 01:02:38,546
. If

2178
01:02:38,546 --> 01:02:39,604
we have more

2179
01:02:39,604 --> 01:02:40,881
jobs in the Two Holy Mosques

2180
01:02:40,881 --> 01:02:42,158
, Your Excellency the

2181
01:02:42,158 --> 01:02:43,618
Mayor, how can we ensure that

2182
01:02:43,618 --> 01:02:44,676
the residents of your city can

2183
01:02:44,676 --> 01:02:47,345
move around easily within it

2184
01:02:47,345 --> 01:02:49,842
? Therefore, we support your efforts to

2185
01:02:49,842 --> 01:02:51,623
promote communication within the

2186
01:02:51,623 --> 01:02:53,233
city. And finally,

2187
01:02:53,233 --> 01:02:54,475
of course,

2188
01:02:54,475 --> 01:02:55,799
land use procedures, your

2189
01:02:55,799 --> 01:02:58,696
master plans, zoning, and

2190
01:02:58,737 --> 01:02:59,730
development agreements that

2191
01:02:59,730 --> 01:03:01,096
you negotiate with

2192
01:03:01,096 --> 01:03:02,558
developers. All these

2193
01:03:02,558 --> 01:03:05,193
things are important. Okay, what

2194
01:03:05,193 --> 01:03:06,859
obstacles are

2195
01:03:06,859 --> 01:03:08,381
you facing? What

2196
01:03:08,381 --> 01:03:09,619
measures are

2197
01:03:09,619 --> 01:03:10,947
you taking to achieve a

2198
01:03:10,947 --> 01:03:12,585
better balance? What

2199
01:03:12,585 --> 01:03:14,254
can be done to help?

2200
01:03:14,254 --> 01:03:15,534
We have a few minutes,

2201
01:03:15,534 --> 01:03:17,012
let's start the discussion. Mr.

2202
01:03:17,012 --> 01:03:18,127
Mayor, if you would allow me,

2203
01:03:18,127 --> 01:03:19,276
we will discuss the matter.

2204
01:03:19,276 --> 01:03:20,904
certainly. I would say

2205
01:03:20,904 --> 01:03:22,217
that one of the things we are

2206
01:03:22,217 --> 01:03:23,492
working on, and in which

2207
01:03:23,492 --> 01:03:24,844
the University of Delaware has been a

2208
01:03:24,844 --> 01:03:26,273
great partner,

2209
01:03:26,273 --> 01:03:27,740
is studying the different access points

2210
01:03:27,740 --> 01:03:29,131
and challenges

2211
01:03:29,131 --> 01:03:30,483
facing the city and the

2212
01:03:30,483 --> 01:03:31,912
transportation sector, and having

2213
01:03:31,912 --> 01:03:33,109
fruitful dialogues about

2214
01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:34,577
how to move forward in

2215
01:03:34,577 --> 01:03:36,045
these areas through

2216
01:03:36,045 --> 01:03:37,203
collaboration, and having

2217
01:03:37,203 --> 01:03:38,478
fruitful discussions about

2218
01:03:38,478 --> 01:03:39,830
facilitating traffic flow, and

2219
01:03:39,830 --> 01:03:41,375
providing access to

2220
01:03:41,375 --> 01:03:42,804
business development areas and

2221
01:03:42,804 --> 01:03:44,349
areas where

2222
01:03:44,349 --> 01:03:45,922
businesses can thrive.

2223
01:03:45,922 --> 01:03:46,647
Good.

2224
01:03:46,647 --> 01:03:48,515
Andrew, may I have a word? I have to

2225
01:03:48,515 --> 01:03:49,881
go now to a

2226
01:03:49,881 --> 01:03:51,104
meeting at 10:30,

2227
01:03:51,104 --> 01:03:52,507
and I will call you when I leave

2228
01:03:52,507 --> 01:03:53,514
, but I really like this

2229
01:03:53,514 --> 01:03:54,713
topic.

2230
01:03:54,713 --> 01:03:56,170
Madam

2231
01:03:56,170 --> 01:03:58,050
President, may I have a moment,

2232
01:03:58,050 --> 01:04:08,456
please? Well, about

2233
01:04:08,456 --> 01:04:10,037
six to eight

2234
01:04:10,037 --> 01:04:11,988
years ago, we

2235
01:04:11,988 --> 01:04:14,045
updated our overall plan,

2236
01:04:14,045 --> 01:04:15,626
and we did a

2237
01:04:15,626 --> 01:04:17,577
job analysis, and it was a moment of

2238
01:04:17,577 --> 01:04:19,581
realization for me when I learned

2239
01:04:19,581 --> 01:04:21,584
that two-thirds of the jobs, I

2240
01:04:21,584 --> 01:04:23,483
think, in

2241
01:04:23,483 --> 01:04:31,393
Salt Lake County were west of, or

2242
01:04:31,393 --> 01:04:33,364
sorry, east of

2243
01:04:33,364 --> 01:04:34,480
Highway 15,

2244
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,518
right? The

2245
01:04:35,518 --> 01:04:36,777
other third is in the

2246
01:04:36,777 --> 01:04:40,155
western region.

2247
01:04:40,155 --> 01:04:41,694
This was one of the most

2248
01:04:41,694 --> 01:04:43,505
impactful things when I looked at

2249
01:04:43,505 --> 01:04:44,591
how the

2250
01:04:44,591 --> 01:04:45,994
county could get involved through

2251
01:04:45,994 --> 01:04:47,759
increased taxes and other

2252
01:04:47,759 --> 01:04:49,163
measures to support

2253
01:04:49,163 --> 01:04:50,838
development with developers and

2254
01:04:50,838 --> 01:04:54,358
our various cities. I

2255
01:04:54,358 --> 01:04:56,355
looked at Mayor Palmer

2256
01:04:56,355 --> 01:04:58,353
, who, not as

2257
01:04:58,353 --> 01:05:00,197
mayor, was involved with perhaps the

2258
01:05:00,197 --> 01:05:01,784
most

2259
01:05:01,784 --> 01:05:03,731
controversial project I was involved in as a

2260
01:05:03,731 --> 01:05:05,575
council member, the

2261
01:05:05,575 --> 01:05:07,470
Olympia Hills development project

2262
01:05:07,470 --> 01:05:10,441
. The Olympia Hills project was designed as a

2263
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:11,824
mixed-use complex that

2264
01:05:11,824 --> 01:05:12,891
provides many

2265
01:05:12,891 --> 01:05:15,222
functions, according to the

2266
01:05:15,262 --> 01:05:16,868
mixed-use concept. You will create, and I have been

2267
01:05:16,868 --> 01:05:18,503
pressing hard on the

2268
01:05:18,503 --> 01:05:20,186
developers for many years

2269
01:05:20,186 --> 01:05:21,581
, during those

2270
01:05:21,581 --> 01:05:23,456
discussions, to make sure that we

2271
01:05:23,456 --> 01:05:25,043
will build in a way that

2272
01:05:25,043 --> 01:05:26,726
ensures that the

2273
01:05:26,726 --> 01:05:28,601
existing Haraman region, after its

2274
01:05:28,601 --> 01:05:30,332
later annexation, will benefit from this

2275
01:05:30,332 --> 01:05:31,997
feature. There are cities in

2276
01:05:31,997 --> 01:05:33,344
my county, and that's one of the

2277
01:05:33,344 --> 01:05:34,895
reasons I love my job, but

2278
01:05:34,895 --> 01:05:36,447
we have very small ski towns

2279
01:05:36,447 --> 01:05:37,875
, we have

2280
01:05:37,875 --> 01:05:39,141
Salt Lake City, and we have

2281
01:05:39,141 --> 01:05:40,624
Harrah's. We have put a

2282
01:05:40,624 --> 01:05:41,866
lot of effort

2283
01:05:41,866 --> 01:05:43,022
into this

2284
01:05:43,022 --> 01:05:44,606
development with Haraman to ensure the efficiency of the

2285
01:05:44,606 --> 01:05:46,190
transport systems. It

2286
01:05:46,190 --> 01:05:47,860
goes both ways

2287
01:05:47,860 --> 01:05:49,102
; they need to be

2288
01:05:49,102 --> 01:05:50,686
easily accessible

2289
01:05:50,686 --> 01:05:52,398
if we want to create

2290
01:05:52,398 --> 01:05:54,025
business hubs in developing communities that have

2291
01:05:54,025 --> 01:05:55,010
not had this

2292
01:05:55,010 --> 01:05:56,837
investment. Therefore, I

2293
01:05:56,837 --> 01:05:58,618
truly commend your tireless efforts

2294
01:05:58,618 --> 01:06:00,262
in this regard, which have served as a

2295
01:06:00,262 --> 01:06:01,906
guide for me

2296
01:06:01,906 --> 01:06:03,367
in addressing the lack of

2297
01:06:03,367 --> 01:06:04,691
job opportunities on the

2298
01:06:04,691 --> 01:06:06,518
west side of Salt

2299
01:06:06,518 --> 01:06:08,252
Lake County. This has been a

2300
01:06:08,252 --> 01:06:09,689
fundamental principle for me

2301
01:06:09,689 --> 01:06:11,250
even in our discussions about the

2302
01:06:11,250 --> 01:06:12,770
entertainment center, and where

2303
01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:14,207
and how to build the

2304
01:06:14,207 --> 01:06:15,454
infrastructure.

2305
01:06:15,454 --> 01:06:16,841
Salt Lake County is involved in

2306
01:06:16,841 --> 01:06:19,900
some matters, and determining whether

2307
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,185
or not we will provide tax incentives to cities and developers

2308
01:06:22,185 --> 01:06:23,653
depends largely on

2309
01:06:23,653 --> 01:06:25,203
job opportunities in the areas

2310
01:06:25,203 --> 01:06:26,794
where we need them, and to a

2311
01:06:26,794 --> 01:06:28,774
lesser extent on the East Side.

2312
01:06:28,774 --> 01:06:30,747
Frankly, there are

2313
01:06:30,747 --> 01:06:32,506
other development measures, and on the

2314
01:06:32,506 --> 01:06:34,639
eastern side, we find that

2315
01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:36,772
our programs focus more on

2316
01:06:36,772 --> 01:06:38,745
rehabilitating

2317
01:06:38,745 --> 01:06:40,452
existing urban areas, and

2318
01:06:40,452 --> 01:06:42,585
on modifying the transport system

2319
01:06:42,585 --> 01:06:44,918
or improving roads. Therefore,

2320
01:06:44,918 --> 01:06:46,412
all appreciation to you for

2321
01:06:46,412 --> 01:06:48,252
taking on this task. Yes,

2322
01:06:48,252 --> 01:06:50,615
I have spoken about this

2323
01:06:50,658 --> 01:06:52,376
fundamental spatial imbalance, which we call the

2324
01:06:52,376 --> 01:06:53,966
spatial imbalance

2325
01:06:53,966 --> 01:06:55,383
between job

2326
01:06:55,383 --> 01:06:56,887
and home locations in

2327
01:06:56,887 --> 01:06:58,433
Salt Lake County, and this is evident

2328
01:06:58,433 --> 01:06:59,980
throughout the

2329
01:06:59,980 --> 01:07:01,655
Wasatch Front and Wasatch

2330
01:07:01,655 --> 01:07:02,643
Back areas, and even in

2331
01:07:02,643 --> 01:07:04,617
Telangana. Thank you

2332
01:07:04,617 --> 01:07:06,306
all. I will participate

2333
01:07:06,306 --> 01:07:08,109
remotely. Thank you, Mayor

2334
01:07:08,109 --> 01:07:10,052
. We have someone online right now,

2335
01:07:10,052 --> 01:07:11,898
Red Ewing, who has a comment

2336
01:07:11,898 --> 01:07:12,046
.

2337
01:07:12,046 --> 01:07:13,630
Professor Ewing:

2338
01:07:13,630 --> 01:07:17,679
Hello. Well, we conducted a

2339
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:19,767
study about ten

2340
01:07:19,767 --> 01:07:24,521
years ago, at the beginning of

2341
01:07:24,521 --> 01:07:26,135
my time here at the University of

2342
01:07:26,135 --> 01:07:28,153
Utah, about the balance between

2343
01:07:28,153 --> 01:07:32,300
work and housing. This

2344
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:34,147
balance is important, but

2345
01:07:34,147 --> 01:07:36,218
there is another factor that is no less

2346
01:07:36,218 --> 01:07:38,177
important, which is the alignment

2347
01:07:38,177 --> 01:07:41,511
between income and skills.

2348
01:07:41,511 --> 01:07:43,389
The jobs should be appropriate

2349
01:07:43,389 --> 01:07:44,751
to the skill level of the

2350
01:07:44,751 --> 01:07:46,630
population, whether they are

2351
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:48,226
residents of the city or

2352
01:07:48,226 --> 01:07:51,374
workers in it.

2353
01:07:51,374 --> 01:07:53,029
This has proven to be just as

2354
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:54,826
important as the

2355
01:07:54,826 --> 01:07:56,481
numerical balance between jobs

2356
01:07:56,481 --> 01:07:59,269
and housing. Therefore,

2357
01:07:59,269 --> 01:08:00,784
this is an important point to

2358
01:08:00,784 --> 01:08:02,631
consider when thinking

2359
01:08:02,631 --> 01:08:05,741
about this topic. Do

2360
01:08:05,741 --> 01:08:07,502
you want

2361
01:08:07,502 --> 01:08:09,774
high-skill jobs in a

2362
01:08:09,774 --> 01:08:11,876
high-skill society,

2363
01:08:11,876 --> 01:08:16,741
or low-skill jobs

2364
01:08:16,741 --> 01:08:18,413
in a

2365
01:08:18,413 --> 01:08:19,950
low-skill society?

2366
01:08:19,950 --> 01:08:21,493
This has proven to be just as

2367
01:08:21,493 --> 01:08:23,168
important as the

2368
01:08:23,168 --> 01:08:24,710
numerical balance between jobs

2369
01:08:24,710 --> 01:08:25,384
and housing.

2370
01:08:25,384 --> 01:08:27,447
Professor, thank you. This is a

2371
01:08:27,447 --> 01:08:29,155
very important point, and

2372
01:08:29,155 --> 01:08:30,724
I think there is no

2373
01:08:30,724 --> 01:08:32,294
better example than

2374
01:08:32,294 --> 01:08:34,141
Park City to illustrate this,

2375
01:08:34,141 --> 01:08:35,710
where many

2376
01:08:35,710 --> 01:08:39,052
jobs are held by people who

2377
01:08:39,052 --> 01:08:40,564
cannot afford to

2378
01:08:40,564 --> 01:08:42,209
live there. Therefore, they

2379
01:08:42,209 --> 01:08:43,528
travel

2380
01:08:43,528 --> 01:08:45,195
long distances. So, thank you,

2381
01:08:45,195 --> 01:08:46,841
Professor, for this

2382
01:08:46,841 --> 01:08:53,429
really important point.

2383
01:08:53,429 --> 01:08:55,284
Yes, I would also like to

2384
01:08:55,284 --> 01:08:58,262
mention that, as I just

2385
01:08:58,262 --> 01:08:59,968
mentioned regarding Park

2386
01:08:59,968 --> 01:09:01,674
City, Morgan is the

2387
01:09:01,674 --> 01:09:02,977
same way because

2388
01:09:02,977 --> 01:09:04,728
the majority of

2389
01:09:04,728 --> 01:09:06,435
our workforce comes from the

2390
01:09:06,435 --> 01:09:09,844
Lower Valley. For this reason,

2391
01:09:09,844 --> 01:09:12,168
our transportation systems

2392
01:09:12,168 --> 01:09:14,433
, such as I-

2393
01:09:14,433 --> 01:09:16,697
84, cannot be expanded,

2394
01:09:16,697 --> 01:09:19,021
yet we still have

2395
01:09:19,021 --> 01:09:21,438
needs. One of the

2396
01:09:21,438 --> 01:09:23,363
needs I have been trying to address for the past

2397
01:09:23,363 --> 01:09:24,893
five

2398
01:09:24,893 --> 01:09:26,324
years is convincing

2399
01:09:26,324 --> 01:09:27,805
the province to recognize

2400
01:09:27,805 --> 01:09:29,680
our need for

2401
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,252
public transportation. We need some kind of

2402
01:09:32,252 --> 01:09:33,823
public transport

2403
01:09:33,823 --> 01:09:35,744
that crosses that valley,

2404
01:09:35,744 --> 01:09:40,053
so that it is not affected by a

2405
01:09:40,053 --> 01:09:43,305
large truck accident that passes through it.

2406
01:09:43,305 --> 01:09:44,748
These are problems we face

2407
01:09:44,748 --> 01:09:46,398
because people cannot

2408
01:09:46,398 --> 01:09:47,925
afford to live

2409
01:09:47,925 --> 01:09:49,304
in Morgan County.

2410
01:09:49,304 --> 01:09:50,632
Those who wish to

2411
01:09:50,632 --> 01:09:51,789
stay there

2412
01:09:51,789 --> 01:09:53,460
cannot afford the cost of

2413
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:58,109
living. So, it's

2414
01:09:58,109 --> 01:09:59,663
not about higher

2415
01:09:59,663 --> 01:10:01,517
taxes, because it isn't

2416
01:10:01,517 --> 01:10:03,483
. What is worrying

2417
01:10:03,483 --> 01:10:04,784
is the rising

2418
01:10:04,784 --> 01:10:06,354
land prices, which are rising at an

2419
01:10:06,354 --> 01:10:07,744
unbelievably rapid rate

2420
01:10:07,744 --> 01:10:09,448
, because all the residents of the

2421
01:10:09,448 --> 01:10:11,197
West Side want

2422
01:10:11,197 --> 01:10:12,946
to move to

2423
01:10:12,946 --> 01:10:14,561
Morgan County, and this is what happened

2424
01:10:14,561 --> 01:10:16,186
with Park City. I

2425
01:10:16,186 --> 01:10:18,335
lived for many years

2426
01:10:18,335 --> 01:10:22,070
, like the professor, and I lived

2427
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:23,752
most of my life in the state of

2428
01:10:23,752 --> 01:10:26,022
Utah and in that region.

2429
01:10:26,022 --> 01:10:27,989
So, I look at history

2430
01:10:27,989 --> 01:10:29,612
and how things have gone, and I

2431
01:10:29,612 --> 01:10:31,334
think we need to take

2432
01:10:31,334 --> 01:10:33,006
some

2433
01:10:33,006 --> 01:10:34,826
history into account when planning

2434
01:10:34,826 --> 01:10:36,999
such projects.

2435
01:10:36,999 --> 01:10:38,881
What do we want? What are

2436
01:10:38,881 --> 01:10:40,252
we prepared

2437
01:10:40,252 --> 01:10:40,972
to accept?

2438
01:10:40,972 --> 01:10:41,626
Yes.

2439
01:10:41,626 --> 01:10:43,201
This is what

2440
01:10:43,201 --> 01:10:45,008
Morgan County will have a

2441
01:10:45,008 --> 01:10:46,220
problem with.

2442
01:10:46,220 --> 01:10:48,108
Thank you, Commissioner.

2443
01:10:48,108 --> 01:10:50,032
I just want to emphasize

2444
01:10:50,032 --> 01:10:51,602
one point from what you just

2445
01:10:51,602 --> 01:10:53,296
mentioned. You are saying that

2446
01:10:53,296 --> 01:10:54,350
we need

2447
01:10:54,350 --> 01:10:55,804
more transportation

2448
01:10:55,804 --> 01:10:58,402
in that area. Improving

2449
01:10:58,402 --> 01:10:59,836
the balance between jobs

2450
01:10:59,836 --> 01:11:01,192
and housing is not something that should be done

2451
01:11:01,192 --> 01:11:02,587
instead

2452
01:11:02,587 --> 01:11:05,276
of enhancing transportation capacity,

2453
01:11:05,276 --> 01:11:07,155
options, and innovations.

2454
01:11:07,155 --> 01:11:08,786
We have to do all of that, and

2455
01:11:08,786 --> 01:11:10,254
in the state of Utah we are making

2456
01:11:10,254 --> 01:11:11,763
tremendous efforts to provide

2457
01:11:11,763 --> 01:11:13,028
more

2458
01:11:13,028 --> 01:11:14,537
transportation options, increase their capacity, and

2459
01:11:14,537 --> 01:11:16,005
connect them

2460
01:11:16,005 --> 01:11:17,269
to each other, as we mentioned

2461
01:11:17,269 --> 01:11:18,867
earlier. But this is not

2462
01:11:18,867 --> 01:11:20,811
enough. We also need to

2463
01:11:20,811 --> 01:11:22,483
strike a balance, and

2464
01:11:22,483 --> 01:11:23,061
we saw

2465
01:11:23,061 --> 01:11:26,336
at the last committee meeting

2466
01:11:26,336 --> 01:11:28,092
, or

2467
01:11:28,092 --> 01:11:29,498
last week,

2468
01:11:29,498 --> 01:11:31,506
development projects that want to provide

2469
01:11:31,506 --> 01:11:35,632
housing for school teachers

2470
01:11:35,632 --> 01:11:37,127
coming from the

2471
01:11:37,127 --> 01:11:41,105
lower valley. We are trying to

2472
01:11:41,105 --> 01:11:42,175
create the

2473
01:11:42,175 --> 01:11:43,958
right conditions for that, but the

2474
01:11:43,958 --> 01:11:45,519
conflict

2475
01:11:45,519 --> 01:11:47,180
between the old and the new still exists.

2476
01:11:47,180 --> 01:11:49,533
Yes, understood. Based

2477
01:11:49,533 --> 01:11:51,514
on history, I see everything

2478
01:11:51,514 --> 01:11:54,521
. I saw it myself, and

2479
01:11:54,521 --> 01:11:56,561
I, you know, come

2480
01:11:56,561 --> 01:11:58,655
from Davis County. I

2481
01:11:58,655 --> 01:12:01,366
originally came from (B).

2482
01:12:01,366 --> 01:12:04,540
No, I will not return. I can

2483
01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:09,086
tell you why I didn't stay.

2484
01:12:09,086 --> 01:12:12,885
Because my wife is from Morgan.

2485
01:12:12,885 --> 01:12:16,528
Good. Thanks. Thanks.

2486
01:12:16,528 --> 01:12:17,985
Anyway, these are

2487
01:12:17,985 --> 01:12:20,015
my thoughts on this decision

2488
01:12:20,015 --> 01:12:20,168
.

2489
01:12:20,168 --> 01:12:20,923
Thanks.

2490
01:12:20,923 --> 01:12:22,843
I believe that everything should

2491
01:12:22,843 --> 01:12:24,557
be balanced,

2492
01:12:24,557 --> 01:12:26,633
not just small parts of it

2493
01:12:26,633 --> 01:12:27,925
. Balance must be achieved

2494
01:12:27,925 --> 01:12:29,499
in everything.

2495
01:12:29,499 --> 01:12:31,286
And if job opportunities are created,

2496
01:12:31,286 --> 01:12:33,174
you will also face a problem.

2497
01:12:33,174 --> 01:12:34,511
Creating jobs requires

2498
01:12:34,511 --> 01:12:35,481
providing more

2499
01:12:35,481 --> 01:12:37,085
housing. correct. As

2500
01:12:37,085 --> 01:12:38,295
you know, transportation is a

2501
01:12:38,295 --> 01:12:39,156
big problem.

2502
01:12:39,156 --> 01:12:40,894
actually. Thank you. As

2503
01:12:40,894 --> 01:12:41,912
for the

2504
01:12:41,912 --> 01:12:43,151
other comments, Mr. Mayor,

2505
01:12:43,151 --> 01:12:44,503
I would like to say, with all due

2506
01:12:44,503 --> 01:12:45,890
respect, even to what

2507
01:12:45,890 --> 01:12:47,070
Mayor Wilson said: We have

2508
01:12:47,070 --> 01:12:48,422
tried to attract

2509
01:12:48,422 --> 01:12:49,636
employment centers, and we—and I have no

2510
01:12:49,636 --> 01:12:50,920
objection to any

2511
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:51,960
particular entity in this

2512
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,243
room or anywhere

2513
01:12:53,243 --> 01:12:54,388
else—can talk at

2514
01:12:54,388 --> 01:12:55,759
length here. But until

2515
01:12:55,759 --> 01:12:56,806
the state accepts

2516
01:12:56,806 --> 01:12:57,997
the need to preserve

2517
01:12:57,997 --> 01:12:59,116
areas in our

2518
01:12:59,116 --> 01:13:00,487
various regions, as you know

2519
01:13:00,487 --> 01:13:01,498
, for this type of

2520
01:13:01,498 --> 01:13:02,906
project, and not the

2521
01:13:02,906 --> 01:13:04,024
continuous pursuit of building

2522
01:13:04,024 --> 01:13:05,425
more housing. We

2523
01:13:05,425 --> 01:13:06,879
tried. We tried to

2524
01:13:06,879 --> 01:13:07,863
preserve these

2525
01:13:07,863 --> 01:13:09,349
areas. We have a

2526
01:13:09,349 --> 01:13:10,860
West Herman partner who may

2527
01:13:10,860 --> 01:13:12,413
also own a large

2528
01:13:12,413 --> 01:13:13,672
open-pit mine, and we are trying to

2529
01:13:13,672 --> 01:13:15,141
persuade him to set up an

2530
01:13:15,141 --> 01:13:16,711
industrial employment center there.

2531
01:13:16,711 --> 01:13:18,615
correct.

2532
01:13:18,615 --> 01:13:20,152
The state has asked them to build more

2533
01:13:20,152 --> 01:13:21,528
housing. This is

2534
01:13:21,528 --> 01:13:22,900
the message they receive, and

2535
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:24,087
we strongly desire

2536
01:13:24,087 --> 01:13:25,385
projects in the west,

2537
01:13:25,385 --> 01:13:26,746
because this is what we have realized. We

2538
01:13:26,746 --> 01:13:28,304
all commute daily.

2539
01:13:28,304 --> 01:13:29,113
We must maintain

2540
01:13:29,113 --> 01:13:30,017
our presence in our region of the

2541
01:13:30,017 --> 01:13:30,922
valley, and acquire

2542
01:13:30,922 --> 01:13:31,771
more. It's not

2543
01:13:31,771 --> 01:13:32,841
just about jobs

2544
01:13:32,841 --> 01:13:33,857
, we need

2545
01:13:33,857 --> 01:13:34,927
sports fields, and everything else we need

2546
01:13:34,927 --> 01:13:36,065
.

2547
01:13:36,065 --> 01:13:37,418
Herman will have a population of 110,000. I should

2548
01:13:37,418 --> 01:13:38,245
never

2549
01:13:38,245 --> 01:13:39,150
leave my city, should I

2550
01:13:39,150 --> 01:13:40,139
? There are cities

2551
01:13:40,139 --> 01:13:41,190
throughout the state with

2552
01:13:41,190 --> 01:13:42,301
populations of 110,000,

2553
01:13:42,301 --> 01:13:43,292
where

2554
01:13:43,292 --> 01:13:44,430
all their needs are met. We

2555
01:13:44,430 --> 01:13:45,362
should never

2556
01:13:45,362 --> 01:13:46,455
leave our community. But

2557
01:13:46,455 --> 01:13:47,199
as a state, we are pushing

2558
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:48,284
projects in

2559
01:13:48,284 --> 01:13:49,401
these employment centers to the top of the

2560
01:13:49,401 --> 01:13:50,680
mountain in the city center. We

2561
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,227
need to distribute them. I am

2562
01:13:52,227 --> 01:13:53,355
from Bryce, and I grew up in

2563
01:13:53,355 --> 01:13:54,578
Carbon County. When

2564
01:13:54,578 --> 01:13:55,404
the governor took office for his

2565
01:13:55,404 --> 01:13:56,300
last term, he talked about moving

2566
01:13:56,300 --> 01:13:57,244
more jobs to

2567
01:13:57,244 --> 01:13:58,069
rural areas of

2568
01:13:58,069 --> 01:13:59,332
Utah. I still haven't

2569
01:13:59,332 --> 01:14:00,408
seen much of that, have I

2570
01:14:00,408 --> 01:14:01,614
? Where we can

2571
01:14:01,614 --> 01:14:02,624
relieve a lot of the pressure

2572
01:14:02,624 --> 01:14:03,609
on the Wasatch Front area

2573
01:14:03,609 --> 01:14:04,492
, and I don't know how we do

2574
01:14:04,492 --> 01:14:05,351
that in this context, do I

2575
01:14:05,351 --> 01:14:06,543
? I think what I

2576
01:14:06,543 --> 01:14:08,034
mean is that I like what we're talking about

2577
01:14:08,034 --> 01:14:09,684
here. I don't know

2578
01:14:09,684 --> 01:14:11,396
how to convey this message.

2579
01:14:11,396 --> 01:14:12,916
I think we understand it,

2580
01:14:12,916 --> 01:14:14,396
but how do we get it across to

2581
01:14:14,396 --> 01:14:15,834
our partners who we work

2582
01:14:15,834 --> 01:14:17,437
with and who are following up on the

2583
01:14:17,437 --> 01:14:18,031
matter?

2584
01:14:18,031 --> 01:14:20,201
Well, I'll admit that we don't

2585
01:14:20,201 --> 01:14:24,255
know either. But perhaps the

2586
01:14:24,255 --> 01:14:26,140
new way

2587
01:14:26,140 --> 01:14:29,089
we think about this is as a

2588
01:14:29,137 --> 01:14:31,022
transportation strategy. If

2589
01:14:31,022 --> 01:14:34,956
we can, in some way,

2590
01:14:34,956 --> 01:14:36,633
invest a lot of

2591
01:14:36,633 --> 01:14:38,404
energy in transportation, then

2592
01:14:38,404 --> 01:14:39,941
achieving this balance will

2593
01:14:39,941 --> 01:14:41,572
help us maximize

2594
01:14:41,572 --> 01:14:43,016
our transportation system as

2595
01:14:43,016 --> 01:14:45,825
well. You are absolutely right, Mr.

2596
01:14:45,875 --> 01:14:47,872
Mayor, and I am not attacking

2597
01:14:47,872 --> 01:14:49,620
anyone, but we need

2598
01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:50,968
all these

2599
01:14:50,968 --> 01:14:52,716
partners to work with us

2600
01:14:52,716 --> 01:14:54,064
to address these

2601
01:14:54,064 --> 01:14:56,115
issues. Know. We will conclude

2602
01:14:56,115 --> 01:14:57,478
here, as this is the

2603
01:14:57,478 --> 01:14:58,560
last item on

2604
01:14:58,560 --> 01:14:59,762
our agenda. We will conclude

2605
01:14:59,762 --> 01:15:01,227
our discussion here shortly,

2606
01:15:01,227 --> 01:15:02,460
but I would like to invite

2607
01:15:02,460 --> 01:15:03,986
Commissioner Camus to comment.

2608
01:15:03,986 --> 01:15:05,427
Cameron, Ted, as a

2609
01:15:05,427 --> 01:15:06,830
member of the North Salt Lake City Council

2610
01:15:06,830 --> 01:15:08,277
. If you would

2611
01:15:08,277 --> 01:15:09,316
like to comment as well,

2612
01:15:09,316 --> 01:15:10,009
you are

2613
01:15:10,009 --> 01:15:11,109
certainly welcome. Jason, if

2614
01:15:11,109 --> 01:15:12,203
you'd like to participate,

2615
01:15:12,203 --> 01:15:13,243
or...oh, Mayor

2616
01:15:13,243 --> 01:15:14,090
Day, please.

2617
01:15:14,090 --> 01:15:14,966
Mayor, why aren't you

2618
01:15:14,966 --> 01:15:16,498
speaking? She hasn't spoken yet.

2619
01:15:16,498 --> 01:15:17,192
Help yourself.

2620
01:15:17,192 --> 01:15:18,608
Always very fast. No, that

2621
01:15:18,608 --> 01:15:20,068
was a

2622
01:15:20,093 --> 01:15:20,860
very interesting point from Mayor

2623
01:15:20,860 --> 01:15:21,930
Palmer. They are ahead of us

2624
01:15:21,930 --> 01:15:22,888
in Clinton,

2625
01:15:22,888 --> 01:15:23,992
but we are working on our

2626
01:15:23,992 --> 01:15:25,125
overall plan and we have also tried

2627
01:15:25,125 --> 01:15:25,997
to say: "What if

2628
01:15:25,997 --> 01:15:26,752
we set up a

2629
01:15:26,752 --> 01:15:27,769
business or jobs center

2630
01:15:27,769 --> 01:15:29,265
here?" Yes. The

2631
01:15:29,265 --> 01:15:30,376
developers told us: "Oh, no, no

2632
01:15:30,376 --> 01:15:31,429
, no, you know

2633
01:15:31,429 --> 01:15:32,321
this won't sell. You won't be able

2634
01:15:32,321 --> 01:15:33,349
to do that.

2635
01:15:33,349 --> 01:15:34,719
Why don't you build

2636
01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:35,713
housing or

2637
01:15:35,713 --> 01:15:36,981
commercial projects or something like that

2638
01:15:36,981 --> 01:15:38,127
?" Yes.

2639
01:15:38,127 --> 01:15:39,675
So, how do we overcome that?

2640
01:15:39,675 --> 01:15:41,223
Are they economic incentives?

2641
01:15:41,223 --> 01:15:42,552
What is the best way

2642
01:15:42,552 --> 01:15:43,387
to achieve this?

2643
01:15:43,387 --> 01:15:44,790
I wonder if this

2644
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:46,544
effort, led by Laura

2645
01:15:46,544 --> 01:15:48,079
Hansen, is necessary, and whether

2646
01:15:48,079 --> 01:15:49,307
this

2647
01:15:49,307 --> 01:15:50,798
discussion should be seriously considered within

2648
01:15:50,798 --> 01:15:52,635
that group? Is it

2649
01:15:52,635 --> 01:15:54,610
connected to the internet? Yes

2650
01:15:54,610 --> 01:15:55,279
, she is

2651
01:15:55,279 --> 01:15:56,724
connected, and I would consider

2652
01:15:56,724 --> 01:15:58,450
embarrassing her, but I feel

2653
01:15:58,450 --> 01:16:00,035
this group is the most

2654
01:16:00,035 --> 01:16:00,742
appropriate.

2655
01:16:00,742 --> 01:16:02,991
Yes, yes. It

2656
01:16:02,991 --> 01:16:04,172
seems as though I gave

2657
01:16:04,172 --> 01:16:05,576
you the opportunity

2658
01:16:05,576 --> 01:16:06,831
to say that, but I didn't

2659
01:16:06,831 --> 01:16:08,313
. Thank you so much

2660
01:16:08,313 --> 01:16:11,287
for saying that.

2661
01:16:11,287 --> 01:16:12,891
I believe this dialogue is

2662
01:16:12,891 --> 01:16:14,183
moving in the

2663
01:16:14,183 --> 01:16:15,808
right direction. As you know,

2664
01:16:15,808 --> 01:16:17,355
Mayor Palmer, you're

2665
01:16:17,355 --> 01:16:18,601
talking about how we've

2666
01:16:18,601 --> 01:16:20,190
tried, but we're having

2667
01:16:20,190 --> 01:16:21,784
some problems. And also

2668
01:16:21,784 --> 01:16:27,436
Mayor Dorty, and I think

2669
01:16:27,436 --> 01:16:29,033
there is a need to

2670
01:16:29,033 --> 01:16:31,055
understand the concept and the promise

2671
01:16:31,055 --> 01:16:32,918
, which has started today,

2672
01:16:32,918 --> 01:16:34,621
but perhaps we need to

2673
01:16:34,621 --> 01:16:36,644
analyze it further, perhaps even

2674
01:16:36,644 --> 01:16:40,374
at the sector level. As

2675
01:16:40,374 --> 01:16:41,688
you know, what kind of

2676
01:16:41,688 --> 01:16:43,391
industry needs

2677
01:16:43,391 --> 01:16:47,357
what kind of

2678
01:16:47,357 --> 01:16:48,902
workforce, what locations have

2679
01:16:48,902 --> 01:16:50,498
access to

2680
01:16:50,498 --> 01:16:52,507
transportation, and how do we align

2681
01:16:52,507 --> 01:16:54,206
these things to meet

2682
01:16:54,206 --> 01:16:55,854
their needs where they

2683
01:16:55,854 --> 01:16:57,759
need them, so that

2684
01:16:57,759 --> 01:16:59,716
we take their point of view into

2685
01:16:59,716 --> 01:17:01,415
account even as we

2686
01:17:01,415 --> 01:17:03,424
think from the perspective of the municipality

2687
01:17:03,424 --> 01:17:08,343
, etc. Do you understand what I mean?

2688
01:17:08,343 --> 01:17:10,229
Let me add another point:

2689
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:11,973
I think many

2690
01:17:11,973 --> 01:17:13,530
industries prefer

2691
01:17:13,530 --> 01:17:15,422
conglomerates, don't they?

2692
01:17:15,422 --> 01:17:17,147
Therefore, it seeks to be located

2693
01:17:17,147 --> 01:17:18,873
near other companies

2694
01:17:18,873 --> 01:17:20,747
with similar orientations.

2695
01:17:20,747 --> 01:17:22,386
This is, in a way,

2696
01:17:22,386 --> 01:17:24,237
related to the concept of

2697
01:17:24,237 --> 01:17:26,299
city and town centers, but it's

2698
01:17:26,299 --> 01:17:28,092
different, isn't it?

2699
01:17:28,092 --> 01:17:29,331
Town and city centers are

2700
01:17:29,331 --> 01:17:30,407
traditionally referred

2701
01:17:30,407 --> 01:17:31,581
to as places that are

2702
01:17:31,581 --> 01:17:32,591
easy to navigate

2703
01:17:32,591 --> 01:17:33,668
on foot and

2704
01:17:33,668 --> 01:17:34,581
have

2705
01:17:34,581 --> 01:17:39,403
diverse uses. Does

2706
01:17:39,403 --> 01:17:41,438
the center need to be a certain size and located in

2707
01:17:41,438 --> 01:17:43,205
specific places to be

2708
01:17:43,205 --> 01:17:45,186
truly attractive to

2709
01:17:45,186 --> 01:17:47,321
certain industries? What

2710
01:17:47,321 --> 01:17:48,784
practical outcome can we

2711
01:17:48,784 --> 01:17:50,248
achieve, which we

2712
01:17:50,248 --> 01:17:52,780
not only expect the

2713
01:17:52,820 --> 01:17:54,284
local government to achieve

2714
01:17:54,284 --> 01:17:55,669
through good planning

2715
01:17:55,669 --> 01:17:57,053
and zoning, but

2716
01:17:57,053 --> 01:17:58,478
we also need

2717
01:17:58,478 --> 01:17:59,862
state support and support for the

2718
01:17:59,862 --> 01:18:00,854
transport sector? It's a

2719
01:18:00,854 --> 01:18:02,913
precise strategy. This is what's

2720
01:18:02,913 --> 01:18:06,141
on my mind.

2721
01:18:06,141 --> 01:18:08,702
Andrew Bradshaw. Well, much

2722
01:18:08,702 --> 01:18:12,579
like Ted and the commissioner, I

2723
01:18:12,579 --> 01:18:14,317
spent enough time in the

2724
01:18:14,317 --> 01:18:16,100
state capital to see

2725
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:17,929
how the state dealt with

2726
01:18:17,929 --> 01:18:19,438
all of the incentives

2727
01:18:19,438 --> 01:18:21,268
many times, from changing

2728
01:18:21,268 --> 01:18:22,777
the way retail incentives are delivered

2729
01:18:22,777 --> 01:18:24,148
,

2730
01:18:24,148 --> 01:18:25,932
through CRAAS and RDAs

2731
01:18:25,932 --> 01:18:27,715
, to TIFF

2732
01:18:27,715 --> 01:18:33,685
red programs and others.

2733
01:18:33,685 --> 01:18:35,359
I think that, in

2734
01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:36,991
many ways, they have used some of the

2735
01:18:36,991 --> 01:18:38,205
tools that

2736
01:18:38,205 --> 01:18:39,909
we might use to attract

2737
01:18:39,909 --> 01:18:41,608
companies, because the focus

2738
01:18:41,608 --> 01:18:43,132
over the past 10

2739
01:18:43,132 --> 01:18:44,307
to 15 years has been

2740
01:18:44,307 --> 01:18:46,049
on the need to

2741
01:18:46,049 --> 01:18:47,181
build housing, and

2742
01:18:47,181 --> 01:18:48,531
our desire to incentivize

2743
01:18:48,531 --> 01:18:52,410
companies to do so. Therefore,

2744
01:18:52,464 --> 01:18:53,996
middle-income housing plans

2745
01:18:53,996 --> 01:18:56,129
and CRAAS programs are pushing us in

2746
01:18:56,129 --> 01:18:57,993
this direction. Our ability

2747
01:18:57,993 --> 01:19:00,644
to provide economic incentives is often

2748
01:19:00,682 --> 01:19:02,997
referred to the Office for

2749
01:19:03,035 --> 01:19:07,190
General Economic Development (GOED). I think

2750
01:19:07,190 --> 01:19:08,759
many of our cities do not

2751
01:19:08,759 --> 01:19:10,051
pay

2752
01:19:10,051 --> 01:19:11,850
enough attention to the Office of

2753
01:19:11,850 --> 01:19:13,511
Public Economic Development,

2754
01:19:13,511 --> 01:19:18,719
or how to implement it.

2755
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:20,182
Even when I look at the

2756
01:19:20,182 --> 01:19:21,689
Wasatch Front area

2757
01:19:21,689 --> 01:19:23,324
and the targeted industries

2758
01:19:23,324 --> 01:19:24,487
that are offered

2759
01:19:24,487 --> 01:19:25,907
incentives, I find that they are

2760
01:19:25,907 --> 01:19:27,241
industries that need

2761
01:19:27,241 --> 01:19:28,490
vast areas of

2762
01:19:28,490 --> 01:19:30,212
land, which is a

2763
01:19:30,212 --> 01:19:31,417
real challenge

2764
01:19:31,417 --> 01:19:33,096
for many of our communities,

2765
01:19:33,096 --> 01:19:34,215
those

2766
01:19:34,215 --> 01:19:36,570
existing communities that do

2767
01:19:36,570 --> 01:19:38,208
not have vast areas

2768
01:19:38,208 --> 01:19:39,887
of land. There are some

2769
01:19:39,887 --> 01:19:41,454
areas in our region

2770
01:19:41,454 --> 01:19:42,708
that will be allocated

2771
01:19:42,708 --> 01:19:44,218
large areas for development

2772
01:19:44,218 --> 01:19:45,689
, but there is great pressure

2773
01:19:45,689 --> 01:19:47,102
to confine them to housing.

2774
01:19:47,102 --> 01:19:48,554
So, how can we

2775
01:19:48,554 --> 01:19:50,337
achieve that? If we want

2776
01:19:50,337 --> 01:19:52,098
people who

2777
01:19:52,098 --> 01:19:55,121
currently commute to work

2778
01:19:55,121 --> 01:19:56,390
in their cities to consider foregoing

2779
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:58,739
commuting, we will really need a completely

2780
01:19:58,771 --> 01:19:59,977
different set of tools than the one

2781
01:19:59,977 --> 01:20:01,247
provided by the

2782
01:20:01,247 --> 01:20:03,512
Legislative Council. Herein lies

2783
01:20:03,512 --> 01:20:04,800
the challenge and the opportunity

2784
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,326
to try to find a solution.

2785
01:20:06,326 --> 01:20:07,842
Okay, do you have any

2786
01:20:07,842 --> 01:20:09,537
other quick comments, Kim

2787
01:20:09,537 --> 01:20:10,121
?

2788
01:20:10,121 --> 01:20:11,453
Thank you, Andrew, and

2789
01:20:11,453 --> 01:20:12,510
thank you for this

2790
01:20:12,510 --> 01:20:13,806
discussion. I am not an

2791
01:20:13,806 --> 01:20:15,015
elected official,

2792
01:20:15,015 --> 01:20:15,847
but I am honored

2793
01:20:15,847 --> 01:20:16,830
to listen to

2794
01:20:16,830 --> 01:20:18,266
elected officials

2795
01:20:18,266 --> 01:20:19,779
throughout the state

2796
01:20:19,779 --> 01:20:21,253
who face many

2797
01:20:21,253 --> 01:20:22,791
of these questions. Therefore,

2798
01:20:22,791 --> 01:20:24,508
in my opinion, no problem can be solved

2799
01:20:24,508 --> 01:20:26,364
until it is

2800
01:20:26,364 --> 01:20:27,824
precisely defined. Therefore, what I would like to

2801
01:20:27,824 --> 01:20:29,341
add in the

2802
01:20:29,341 --> 01:20:30,776
next few minutes is

2803
01:20:30,776 --> 01:20:32,229
just additional obstacles.

2804
01:20:32,229 --> 01:20:33,766
When we talk about how to

2805
01:20:33,766 --> 01:20:34,958
improve this situation,

2806
01:20:34,958 --> 01:20:37,725
here are some other elements to

2807
01:20:37,764 --> 01:20:39,465
consider.

2808
01:20:39,465 --> 01:20:41,235
The commissioner briefly referred to what

2809
01:20:41,235 --> 01:20:42,912
I will call the "postal code problem

2810
01:20:42,912 --> 01:20:44,664
". The problem of

2811
01:20:44,664 --> 01:20:46,537
the postal code relates

2812
01:20:46,537 --> 01:20:48,510
to the cost of land, but it is

2813
01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:50,231
much broader than that;

2814
01:20:50,231 --> 01:20:51,951
it includes influential market forces

2815
01:20:51,951 --> 01:20:53,781
. Since the

2816
01:20:53,781 --> 01:20:55,454
COVID-19 pandemic, we have not seen any

2817
01:20:55,454 --> 01:20:57,173
new

2818
01:20:57,173 --> 01:20:58,799
Class A office space, which has led

2819
01:20:58,799 --> 01:21:00,440
to a stagnation in our market. But

2820
01:21:00,440 --> 01:21:01,425
looking at the

2821
01:21:01,425 --> 01:21:02,696
general plans drawn up a

2822
01:21:02,696 --> 01:21:03,967
decade ago, we find several

2823
01:21:03,967 --> 01:21:05,239
plans with

2824
01:21:05,239 --> 01:21:06,224
local communities in the

2825
01:21:06,224 --> 01:21:07,400
Wasatch Front area to create

2826
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,512
more

2827
01:21:08,512 --> 01:21:09,783
Class A office space,

2828
01:21:09,783 --> 01:21:10,991
which could form the

2829
01:21:10,991 --> 01:21:12,866
cornerstone of

2830
01:21:12,898 --> 01:21:14,042
future employment centers for

2831
01:21:14,042 --> 01:21:14,995
office jobs, given the

2832
01:21:14,995 --> 01:21:16,108
radical change that has

2833
01:21:16,108 --> 01:21:17,125
occurred in the market since the

2834
01:21:17,125 --> 01:21:18,550
pandemic.

2835
01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:19,878
Downtown Salt Lake City is still

2836
01:21:19,878 --> 01:21:21,021
suffering from stagnation,

2837
01:21:21,021 --> 01:21:22,423
let alone the construction of

2838
01:21:22,423 --> 01:21:23,493
new office complexes in

2839
01:21:23,493 --> 01:21:25,032
Grantsville or Clinton.

2840
01:21:25,032 --> 01:21:26,384
Therefore, we need to

2841
01:21:26,384 --> 01:21:27,563
reconsider how we

2842
01:21:27,563 --> 01:21:28,872
plan for

2843
01:21:28,872 --> 01:21:30,225
future jobs in light of the

2844
01:21:30,225 --> 01:21:31,490
spread of working from

2845
01:21:31,490 --> 01:21:33,024
home. The

2846
01:21:33,024 --> 01:21:34,385
second related point

2847
01:21:34,385 --> 01:21:35,903
is the legislative

2848
01:21:35,903 --> 01:21:37,225
and market pressures related to

2849
01:21:37,225 --> 01:21:38,743
housing, which

2850
01:21:38,743 --> 01:21:40,205
Mayor Palmer referred to.

2851
01:21:40,205 --> 01:21:41,667
I could list many

2852
01:21:41,667 --> 01:21:43,019
communities that have designated

2853
01:21:43,019 --> 01:21:43,970
areas for

2854
01:21:43,970 --> 01:21:45,139
future jobs, whether

2855
01:21:45,139 --> 01:21:46,565
industrial or commercial

2856
01:21:46,565 --> 01:21:47,954
, but are facing

2857
01:21:47,954 --> 01:21:49,270
significant pressure from market forces,

2858
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:50,366
property owners, and

2859
01:21:50,366 --> 01:21:51,646
others who say, "

2860
01:21:51,646 --> 01:21:53,035
We want to rezone this

2861
01:21:53,035 --> 01:21:54,387
area because we

2862
01:21:54,387 --> 01:21:55,776
currently need more

2863
01:21:55,776 --> 01:21:57,202
housing, and I, as a

2864
01:21:57,202 --> 01:21:58,225
property owner,

2865
01:21:58,225 --> 01:21:59,578
can make a profit, and

2866
01:21:59,578 --> 01:22:01,003
that's not a bad thing

2867
01:22:01,003 --> 01:22:02,340
." But this is the

2868
01:22:02,340 --> 01:22:03,587
real pressure point;

2869
01:22:03,587 --> 01:22:04,876
once that

2870
01:22:04,876 --> 01:22:06,460
land is developed, it disappears. I could

2871
01:22:06,460 --> 01:22:07,758
point to community after

2872
01:22:07,758 --> 01:22:09,056
community where they fought battles

2873
01:22:09,056 --> 01:22:09,932
to preserve those

2874
01:22:09,932 --> 01:22:11,197
lands because they were thinking

2875
01:22:11,197 --> 01:22:12,333
about the future, twenty

2876
01:22:12,333 --> 01:22:13,631
years ahead, not just the

2877
01:22:13,631 --> 01:22:14,879
present. If

2878
01:22:14,879 --> 01:22:16,063
we look at different parts of the

2879
01:22:16,063 --> 01:22:17,189
country, we find that

2880
01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:18,314
Florida is just one example among

2881
01:22:18,314 --> 01:22:19,066
many.

2882
01:22:19,066 --> 01:22:20,298
California is another example

2883
01:22:20,298 --> 01:22:21,278
where the legislature intervened

2884
01:22:21,278 --> 01:22:22,227
and allowed

2885
01:22:22,227 --> 01:22:23,207
housing to be built in

2886
01:22:23,207 --> 01:22:24,511
commercial areas. So

2887
01:22:24,511 --> 01:22:25,476
imagine,

2888
01:22:25,476 --> 01:22:26,496
virgin landowners

2889
01:22:26,496 --> 01:22:27,323
trying to plan

2890
01:22:27,323 --> 01:22:28,343
for the future, how much damage it would do

2891
01:22:28,343 --> 01:22:29,418
you if

2892
01:22:29,418 --> 01:22:30,383
you couldn't plan

2893
01:22:30,383 --> 01:22:31,293
any future business projects

2894
01:22:31,293 --> 01:22:32,202
because

2895
01:22:32,202 --> 01:22:32,919
residential construction would be

2896
01:22:32,919 --> 01:22:34,012
allowed there. This does

2897
01:22:34,012 --> 01:22:35,032
not mean that

2898
01:22:35,032 --> 01:22:35,832
housing should not be built in

2899
01:22:35,832 --> 01:22:36,769
commercial areas;

2900
01:22:36,769 --> 01:22:37,918
everything has its time and place.

2901
01:22:37,918 --> 01:22:38,981
But this is just

2902
01:22:38,981 --> 01:22:40,045
another obstacle that must be taken into

2903
01:22:40,045 --> 01:22:42,638
account. The third element is the

2904
01:22:42,672 --> 01:22:44,134
demographic composition. When we look

2905
01:22:44,134 --> 01:22:45,416
at the challenges

2906
01:22:45,416 --> 01:22:47,980
facing Harman, a

2907
01:22:48,019 --> 01:22:49,301
relatively young community, we find that they are

2908
01:22:49,301 --> 01:22:50,854
fundamentally different from the

2909
01:22:50,854 --> 01:22:51,864
challenges

2910
01:22:51,864 --> 01:22:53,068
faced by other

2911
01:22:53,068 --> 01:22:54,467
established cities such as South Salt

2912
01:22:54,467 --> 01:22:55,865
Lake, as Mayor

2913
01:22:55,865 --> 01:22:57,419
Wood noted, where residents are

2914
01:22:57,419 --> 01:22:58,778
aging,

2915
01:22:58,778 --> 01:23:00,083
schools are closing, and the like.

2916
01:23:00,083 --> 01:23:01,004
We talked about all the

2917
01:23:01,004 --> 01:23:02,198
travelers to Salt

2918
01:23:02,198 --> 01:23:03,563
Lake, and I pointed out the problem of

2919
01:23:03,563 --> 01:23:04,654
overpopulation

2920
01:23:04,654 --> 01:23:05,994
there.

2921
01:23:05,994 --> 01:23:07,336
Salt Lake City's nighttime population is at its highest

2922
01:23:07,336 --> 01:23:08,753
level ever recorded

2923
01:23:08,753 --> 01:23:10,170
in Utah's history,

2924
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:11,512
while

2925
01:23:11,512 --> 01:23:13,004
its school population is at its lowest level

2926
01:23:13,004 --> 01:23:14,122
since before

2927
01:23:14,122 --> 01:23:16,356
World War II. Therefore

2928
01:23:16,356 --> 01:23:17,888
, part of this

2929
01:23:17,888 --> 01:23:19,327
alignment is identifying

2930
01:23:19,327 --> 01:23:20,533
the locations of

2931
01:23:20,533 --> 01:23:22,176
current jobs. How can

2932
01:23:22,176 --> 01:23:23,318
more residents be attracted

2933
01:23:23,318 --> 01:23:24,643
to live near these

2934
01:23:24,643 --> 01:23:26,079
jobs while these

2935
01:23:26,079 --> 01:23:27,441
cities are experiencing a

2936
01:23:27,441 --> 01:23:29,128
population decline?

2937
01:23:29,128 --> 01:23:31,453
This demographic aspect is

2938
01:23:31,498 --> 01:23:33,094
also extremely important, because the

2939
01:23:33,094 --> 01:23:34,826
younger generation does not settle

2940
01:23:34,826 --> 01:23:38,125
for one job. Therefore, a

2941
01:23:38,166 --> 01:23:39,724
large-scale employment center could be established in a community

2942
01:23:39,724 --> 01:23:41,365
like Herman, and Cameron might move

2943
01:23:41,365 --> 01:23:42,636
to the

2944
01:23:42,636 --> 01:23:43,907
Hermantown center for a few

2945
01:23:43,907 --> 01:23:45,298
years. Then, if she is in

2946
01:23:45,298 --> 01:23:46,437
her thirties

2947
01:23:46,437 --> 01:23:47,576
, she will go somewhere else, and

2948
01:23:47,576 --> 01:23:48,715
they will move quickly from

2949
01:23:48,715 --> 01:23:49,884
place to place, which is very

2950
01:23:49,884 --> 01:23:51,023
different from what it was

2951
01:23:51,023 --> 01:23:51,922
30

2952
01:23:51,922 --> 01:23:53,061
years ago when we were planning for

2953
01:23:53,061 --> 01:23:54,147
society. So, as we

2954
01:23:54,147 --> 01:23:55,071
ask this question,

2955
01:23:55,071 --> 01:23:56,234
I think it’s important to have a

2956
01:23:56,234 --> 01:23:57,427
comprehensive picture

2957
01:23:57,427 --> 01:23:58,381
because these are the things I

2958
01:23:58,381 --> 01:23:59,514
hear from

2959
01:23:59,514 --> 01:24:01,571
mayors and council members across the

2960
01:24:01,601 --> 01:24:02,149
state.

2961
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:04,118
Yes, great. All of them are

2962
01:24:04,118 --> 01:24:06,075
excellent observations. Okay,

2963
01:24:06,075 --> 01:24:07,237
perhaps we can conclude this

2964
01:24:07,237 --> 01:24:08,915
conversation for the

2965
01:24:08,915 --> 01:24:12,246
Regional Growth Committee now. Well, I

2966
01:24:12,246 --> 01:24:13,869
see people pointing that way

2967
01:24:13,869 --> 01:24:15,243
, so I'm just making sure we're

2968
01:24:15,243 --> 01:24:16,492
okay to wrap things up

2969
01:24:16,492 --> 01:24:20,030
now. Ted,

2970
01:24:20,030 --> 01:24:21,759
I just want to connect the dots with the programs

2971
01:24:21,759 --> 01:24:24,195
that

2972
01:24:24,195 --> 01:24:25,690
Megan mentioned at the beginning.

2973
01:24:25,690 --> 01:24:26,472
Good.

2974
01:24:26,472 --> 01:24:29,585
If a community or

2975
01:24:29,585 --> 01:24:31,313
group of communities thinks,

2976
01:24:31,313 --> 01:24:33,085
if you think, you

2977
01:24:33,085 --> 01:24:34,459
know, that we are

2978
01:24:34,459 --> 01:24:36,232
ready to delve into this as a

2979
01:24:36,232 --> 01:24:37,473
pilot project,

2980
01:24:37,473 --> 01:24:39,112
we can do so

2981
01:24:39,112 --> 01:24:40,708
by linking the use of

2982
01:24:40,708 --> 01:24:42,274
transport corridors. So I

2983
01:24:42,274 --> 01:24:43,618
just wanted to

2984
01:24:43,618 --> 01:24:44,879
suggest that one way to

2985
01:24:44,879 --> 01:24:46,476
explore this is

2986
01:24:46,476 --> 01:24:48,157
through a pilot project, and

2987
01:24:48,157 --> 01:24:50,671
that's a viable option. I'll get back to you,

2988
01:24:50,771 --> 01:24:53,632
Ted. Thank you very much. In

2989
01:24:53,632 --> 01:24:55,663
conclusion, I would like to point out

2990
01:24:55,663 --> 01:24:57,749
that this is a complex issue

2991
01:24:57,749 --> 01:24:59,780
with many dynamics

2992
01:24:59,780 --> 01:25:01,865
, some of which have been identified

2993
01:25:01,865 --> 01:25:06,893
here. What I don't want is for us

2994
01:25:06,893 --> 01:25:08,801
all to give up and say, "

2995
01:25:08,801 --> 01:25:10,758
There are so many things

2996
01:25:10,758 --> 01:25:12,618
happening and we can't

2997
01:25:12,618 --> 01:25:15,958
do anything about them."

2998
01:25:15,958 --> 01:25:17,643
From a transportation perspective

2999
01:25:17,643 --> 01:25:19,242
, if we want our transportation system to operate

3000
01:25:19,242 --> 01:25:20,495
efficiently in

3001
01:25:20,495 --> 01:25:21,878
the future, we need to

3002
01:25:21,878 --> 01:25:23,491
address this issue.

3003
01:25:23,491 --> 01:25:25,354
In addition to building housing,

3004
01:25:25,354 --> 01:25:26,984
developing transportation, and

3005
01:25:26,984 --> 01:25:28,381
innovating in it,

3006
01:25:28,381 --> 01:25:30,151
we must work on the

3007
01:25:30,151 --> 01:25:31,501
demand side, i.e., achieving a

3008
01:25:31,501 --> 01:25:33,364
balance between job opportunities and

3009
01:25:33,364 --> 01:25:35,228
housing, and this has

3010
01:25:35,228 --> 01:25:36,865
many benefits, including transportation.

3011
01:25:36,865 --> 01:25:38,138
So, looking

3012
01:25:38,138 --> 01:25:39,448
ahead, our intention

3013
01:25:39,448 --> 01:25:40,722
at the West Florida Transportation Research Center

3014
01:25:40,722 --> 01:25:42,102
(WFRC) is to

3015
01:25:42,102 --> 01:25:43,447
continue talking about this

3016
01:25:43,447 --> 01:25:44,756
topic over the

3017
01:25:44,756 --> 01:25:46,256
next few months. We plan

3018
01:25:46,256 --> 01:25:47,608
to have this type of

3019
01:25:47,608 --> 01:25:48,660
dialogue

3020
01:25:48,660 --> 01:25:50,162
next week at the

3021
01:25:50,162 --> 01:25:51,580
full WFRC Council meeting. I know

3022
01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:53,193
some of you will be there too.

3023
01:25:53,193 --> 01:25:57,567
Welcome, everyone. The

3024
01:25:57,610 --> 01:25:58,939
University of

3025
01:25:58,939 --> 01:26:00,226
Delaware Government Transportation Conference, the

3026
01:26:00,226 --> 01:26:01,855
League of Cities and Towns Conference

3027
01:26:01,855 --> 01:26:04,514
, the American Planning Association Conference, and the

3028
01:26:04,557 --> 01:26:06,229
Planning Conference, we want to have

3029
01:26:06,229 --> 01:26:07,644
this conversation, and

3030
01:26:07,644 --> 01:26:09,188
I hope that people,

3031
01:26:09,188 --> 01:26:10,775
as we discuss this, will realize,

3032
01:26:10,775 --> 01:26:12,490
when thinking about

3033
01:26:12,490 --> 01:26:13,905
transportation, this

3034
01:26:13,905 --> 01:26:15,363
key point: that improving

3035
01:26:15,363 --> 01:26:16,950
the balance between jobs

3036
01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:18,279
and housing can

3037
01:26:18,279 --> 01:26:19,609
help us improve

3038
01:26:19,609 --> 01:26:21,152
transportation as much as

3039
01:26:21,152 --> 01:26:22,782
building more

3040
01:26:22,782 --> 01:26:24,988
transportation. Then we work together

3041
01:26:24,988 --> 01:26:26,444
to find ways to develop

3042
01:26:26,444 --> 01:26:27,548
policies or make

3043
01:26:27,548 --> 01:26:29,606
investments to improve that.

3044
01:26:29,606 --> 01:26:31,072
So, let's work on it

3045
01:26:31,072 --> 01:26:32,457
together as we move

3046
01:26:32,457 --> 01:26:34,223
forward. Well, the floor is

3047
01:26:34,223 --> 01:26:35,963
yours, Madam President.

3048
01:26:35,963 --> 01:26:37,628
Thank you. This is a

3049
01:26:37,628 --> 01:26:39,081
great discussion, and I know we will

3050
01:26:39,081 --> 01:26:40,653
continue it. Cameron, I

3051
01:26:40,653 --> 01:26:42,235
really appreciate the points you just

3052
01:26:42,235 --> 01:26:43,726
raised,

3053
01:26:43,726 --> 01:26:45,443
because they make very sense in the

3054
01:26:45,443 --> 01:26:47,111
context of our conversation. Okay, we've

3055
01:26:47,111 --> 01:26:48,700
arrived at the

3056
01:26:48,700 --> 01:26:49,868
scheduled time. I will make a

3057
01:26:49,868 --> 01:26:51,440
suggestion, or rather, I don't think it's a

3058
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:52,908
suggestion. I think we have

3059
01:26:52,908 --> 01:26:54,416
adjourned the session. The

3060
01:26:54,416 --> 01:26:56,270
next meeting is on

3061
01:26:56,270 --> 01:26:58,173
October 15th, and we hope to see you

3062
01:26:58,173 --> 01:27:00,416
there. No no. Oh,

3063
01:27:00,416 --> 01:27:01,842
October 8th.

3064
01:27:01,842 --> 01:27:02,473
Yes,

3065
01:27:02,473 --> 01:27:03,664
October 8th is the date of the

3066
01:27:03,664 --> 01:27:04,997
next meeting.

3067
01:27:04,997 --> 01:27:07,218
No problem. Good. Thank

3068
01:27:07,218 --> 01:27:10,751
you all. It was a

3069
01:27:10,751 --> 01:27:13,423
truly fruitful discussion.