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» There is a phone call number.

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Senator

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we still trying to let M in Um,

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did you make it on?

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>> Good morning everyone. Matt's here.

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Hopefully you can hear me.

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» We would like to go ahead and get

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started. Thanks everyone for being

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patient with technical difficulties.

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Karina

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and Barbary

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Park Bullen's here. Sorry.

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Emily Gray here. Greg Shelton.

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Is that Jared? Okay. Lorie Stringham,

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>> Brunard here. Lindsay Long

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>> Nick Griffin.

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>> Did you get Clark here?

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>> Yes, you did. Thank you. Um, all right.

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meeting for public comment. Any members

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this board, now is the time.

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the agenda. So, we're going to move the

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agenda out of order. Um, so we're going

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to address items 3.7 and 3.8 now. Um,

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this off, Rachel is going to kind of go

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into this more detail. Um this is the um

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the update of the withdrawal agreement

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with Caraman and the draft of the

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interlocal agreement with Carame. Uh I

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Evan about this. Um just as an

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introduction um this agreement was made

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um through a lot of work. I I I

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obviously wasn't there but I met him on

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their side as well. Um, I know Evan and

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countless hours. We also created a

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district and all geographical areas in

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the district. I sat on that working

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working group and met frequently

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to come up with this agreement. Um it

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has not to say it's been a labor of

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love, but it's been a labor.

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um Rachel go over that uh now. Great.

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much about whether or whether Herming

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disagreement really turned on what

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assets that um could take with them. And

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our time and and discussions. Uh so this

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resolution to Herman's withdrawal. Um

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Herman owns a proportional share of

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district assets or was legally entitled

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to you know everything that it might

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this process has been that

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municipalities do not hold a

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proportional ownership interest in

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district assets. Um and and we did

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preserve that position expressly in the

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there's a clause there that that states

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that. So the transfers that we

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not in in recognition of an ownership or

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equity interest um per se. Uh and the

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any further asset related claims. So we

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benefits of this agreement.

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legal position uh you know we had to

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evaluate all of this uh in consideration

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of the environment that this withdrawal

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uh new legislation creating a whole new

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withdrawal process. Um there was

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legislative pressure. Um

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any any even thoughts of of litigating

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the issue to try to figure out where the right line is would have involved

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additional substantial expense and delay

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focusing on without any sort of

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guarantee that we'd get a better result.

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this negotiated, um, agreement is is

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what our small group at least considered

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to be a a a resolution that we could we

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could uh, live with. And that was best

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protective of the district given um, all

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the, like I said, the legal pressures we

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just discussed.

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um protecting our remaining communities.

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remaining communities and providing good

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service there and not be fighting legal

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battles on the side. Um

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so this agreement gives Herman a defined

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um and limited package but also gives us

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and everyone else involved uh finality.

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uh Herman doesn't receive uh cash or

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fund balance in his reserves, real

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property or a set percentage of assets.

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through the agreement, but um there is a

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transfer of of the containers and the

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carts and the um some trucks and that

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transfer is capped and subject to

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certain you know operational protections

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on our end uh to protect our remaining

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fleet and our needs. Um,

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we see this agreement as only expressly

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being specific to Heramman's withdrawal

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other. Every future any any withdrawal

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case-by case basis under the own facts

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and circumstances and the applicable law

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at the time. And uh more to that point

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of the law, uh we see ourselves as

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perhaps trying to get back into that

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legislation and um clearing up

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clarifying some of the ambiguities that we saw and and had to deal with. Um

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so in the future, you know, any any

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request for this store is is going to be

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out kind of the major points so that you

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know how this is going to go. Um,

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actually one more o overarching point

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before we move on. Um, we as a small

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like we're good with the language just

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as of like the end of last week. So, we

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had enough time to get it here on the

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agenda. And I know that Evan has had

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oneonone and Emily's had some one-on-one

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conversations with many of you. Um, we

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wanted you guys to have the opportunity

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to vote on it today if everyone feels

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that they're ready, but it is a bit of a

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questions answered, of course, we'll

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setting up a special meeting sometime in

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the next couple weeks to come back to

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this question. Um, rather than we can't

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to the recital. In recital A, it just it

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states what kind of organization we are.

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for service basis, operate through an

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enterprise fund supported by customer

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service fees. We do not impose any

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property tax and it lists the

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communities that we serve. That's been

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residents who've paid and they have

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gotten the service that they paid for

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the fee for service concept rather than

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in to this organization. Okay, I could

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go into all that. I'm not going to have

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a whole legal discussion on how that

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works. Anyway, so back down to section

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two, the agreement and effective uh the

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withdrawal effective dates. So basically

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this agreement is just saying we're you

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know we mutually agreeing to the fact

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that Germany is withdrawing and the way

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the law works is it becomes legally

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effective upon the lieutenant governor

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issuing a certificate of withdrawal. So

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we'll sign this agreement signs this

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agreement as soon as it's signed by both

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parties. Herman has to send a notice to

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uh the lieutenant governor's office with

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a final local entity plant which is the

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map basically that they're saying this

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the district and then the lieutenant

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governor's office uh issues a

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certification and in my experience that

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uh transition

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um until uh the end of October 31st as

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the actual transition date. So

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regardless of when the lieutenant

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governor certifies it as being official,

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we are negotiating that we will continue

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service until uh up through October 31st

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and so that there will be a formal

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transition. The reason we chose that

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date is it it makes sense on our side to

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have uh the services end at the end of a

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month for our billing purposes and that

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will produce a really clean transition

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for for us.

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Um let's see.

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We the asurances section says that we

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will continue to provide uh service

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without uh degradation of service prior

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to that transition date. So we did

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pointed out a few practical issues

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there. If if a new home comes online in

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that weird little window and transition

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date, we'll still give them a new can

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and all that. We'll do repairs and

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maintenance. However, we are probably

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not going to be uh accepting requests

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for new subscription based services

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during that window because that really

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doesn't make sense for anyone. So,

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that's the only quote unquote

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degradation of service that might occur.

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Um final billings and collections. Um,

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you know, we reserve the right obviously

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to to send out final bills and collect

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and in pay in in cases of non-payment,

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we are still authorized to use any of

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our regular collection methods,

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including placing a lean for past due

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services against the property. This is

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how we do our um annual certifications

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on the property tax rules for those that

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do not um pay in a timely manner. This

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is just saying that we will continue to

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be able to do that

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um if anyone doesn't pay during this

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window. Section six is the negotiated

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asset transfer. Um again we've agreed

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that this is not recognition of any sort

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of portion of ownership or equity

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interest. The statute does talk in terms

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of being able to transfer assets in in

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the case of withdrawal on the basis of

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like necessity of the parties. And so

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this is more in line with that than

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considering it as being a you just get a

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percentage because you were a member. Um

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so what we through much negotiation um

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settled on was uh a transfer of sideload

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collection trucks having an aggregate

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appraised retail value reasonably

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approximating $825,000.

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Uh this section contains uh methods of

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how select an appraiser. Um we will

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mutually select and and split the cost

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of the appraiser to come in and appraise

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the trucks. Um section C has

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identification of eligible trucks and

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this is a process that we agreed to

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wherein Evans team will identify a pool

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of trucks that are allowed to be

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considered as part of the um the

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transfer. Um it has a tiered formula so

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that they get a mix of trucks in that

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pool of different ages. And so we're,

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you know, we were not allowed to just

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give them all the lowest and the worst

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trucks in the pile, but at the same

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time, they can't just take all the best

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and the newest either. So, it's got to

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span. And so, once we have that pool put

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together, um the

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uh

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what is the word? the appraisal occurs

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and the appraiser will assign a retail

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value to all of those trucks after

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consideration of taking out some of the

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um equipment that we have inside the

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trucks that remain on our property.

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And then uh once we have values on all

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of the trucks within the pool, uh the

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city of Paramin has the ability to go

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through and basically pick and choose

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which trucks they want. um that uh gets

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as close as possible to that uh that uh

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target transfer value that I identified

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and recognizing that it would be a near

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miracle and possibility to be able to

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come up with an exact dollar amount that

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matches that.

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Um

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we uh we negotiated this language to say

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that

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um you have to they have to pick trucks

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that come closest to that value as

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possible. And if if they can't if it's

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within 3% either up above or below we're

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calling it like that's good enough and

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there will be no um further um true up

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so to speak. If we can't find any

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combination that falls within that 3%

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window down of the target value, then

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Evan has the ability to add more trucks

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into the pool and to try to get some

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more options that would create um a

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workable combination.

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Um if despite all of our efforts, we

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just simply cannot get a combination

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that is within that 3% and have the

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option of agreeing to a transfer that's

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you know a little bit above or below

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that. Um that would also include a

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dollar value true up but only to the

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extent that it was above or below that

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3%. That 3% window would stay. But if

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let's say it goes up 4% then um either

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they pay us an additional that that

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additional 1% or we give them an

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additional 1% to get within that window.

401
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Um yes we did have a limit as well um

402
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due to our operational needs that uh

403
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under no circumstances can they take

404
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more than six trucks. That was important

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to us because we obviously we need

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trucks to be continuing to, you know, do

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our service to our communities and

408
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that's the number that our team settled

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on as being portable.

410
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Okay. Uh

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let's see. We say that the transfer of

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trucks will fully satisfy the

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requirements of this agreement. the law.

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Let me see. Uh the transfer of time of possession

415
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just talks about you know we we're

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transferring them as is where is without

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any representation or warranty. Um we

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will remove um our wolfward labels from the trucks and they will just take

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them as is and then become responsible

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for registration, licensing, insurance

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on all that.

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Um,

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let's see.

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Okay, all the rest of this I'm going to

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just skip over. It's just more or less

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factual terms. So, then we get to

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section 8, the transfer of uh garbage

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and recycling carts. Um, as part of our

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negotiations, we agreed to basically

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leave the residential carts uh where

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they are. residents can keep their

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garbage and recycling carts.

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Um

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see this is only the uh 90 to 96 gallon

435
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carts issued for regular service. Um it

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does not include any other

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larger containers that we see.

438
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Let's see. Um

439
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I'm going to skip down. These are also

440
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,480
uh transferred as is. No warranty.

441
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Uh the important section is removal of

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identification. Within 180 days after

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the transition date, the city shall

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ensure that all of our um names are

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covered on the cards. What our

446
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understanding is is that they have a

447
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plan to place a sticker on the top of

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the every cart that um completely

449
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obscures our information and states the

450
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new company and contact information for

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that company. And to the extent that our

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carts have um logos on the sides, uh we

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negotiated that that was still important

454
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for us for those to be removed and they

455
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can remove those in in either by also

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doing stickers or even just by spray

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painting over them. So, you know, people

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00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,960
with eyeballs can still see what was

459
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said under the spray paint, but it would

460
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be a clear indication that that is no

461
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longer um the party that that owns this.

462
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We don't want anyone contacting us for

463
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issues. I I'm sure that we'll still get

464
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that to some extent just because people

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are used to us being a service provider,

466
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but um we don't want it being basically

467
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advertised that that this is our

468
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cards and our issues or there any

469
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service issues that they should prompt

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us.

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Um

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okay, then number nine, retention of

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remaining assets and liabilities. This

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again just goes into that point of

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everything else is that we haven't

476
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mentioned is not being transferred um

477
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assets, liabilities and incomes.

478
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Uh 10 is a full satisfaction and release

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of asset claims

480
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meaning like I said before this is it

481
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we're putting into bed. This is what

482
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everyone gets.

483
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Uh we're getting into more liquid stuff.

484
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Number 12, the customer data transfer

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requires within 30 days that we uh put

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together the data package necessary that

487
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they need that has the customer name,

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service addresses, all of our basically

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computer data on on all the residents um

490
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so that they know who they're serving.

491
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Um

492
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let's see customer communications is the

493
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responsibility of city to uh notify

494
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customers of the transition and and

495
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that's on them to make sure that they

496
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adequately notify their customers of of

497
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the of the transition and we will

498
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reasonably cooperate of course but um

499
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the primary uh obligation is on them to be the notifier and I am certain that

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we will continue getting calls for a

501
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,840
long time but we'll just

502
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>> transfer them to the city.

503
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um

504
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termination of statutory financial

505
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restrictions. This is a technicality,

506
00:23:55,919 --> 00:23:58,559
but that that law that uh the bill that

507
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got passed um during this legislative

508
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session had

509
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a clause in there that basically

510
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,240
restricted us from incurring any new

511
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,600
debt, issuing bonds, etc., etc. after a

512
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,760
city asks to leave. Like basically, they

513
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,760
put a freeze on us from conducting any

514
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business like that until we get this

515
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withdrawal uh resolved. And so this is

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00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,520
just expressly stating that that that

517
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ban is lifted as soon as this agreement

518
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is passed.

519
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,039
Um okay, now we're getting really into

520
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,960
boiler plate that remains the

521
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responsibility for accident emissions.

522
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,640
Uh number 17 is important, continuing

523
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,480
independent contracts. We do have some

524
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,240
independent service contracts in the

525
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parame uh to serve private roads. Those

526
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:44,559
are private contract based agreements.

527
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those are private roads and we have a

528
00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:49,200
private contract with those uh areas.

529
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This withdrawal does not affect those

530
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,279
private contracts that we may have and

531
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so we will continue servicing those up

532
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,799
and until we you know make a different

533
00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:59,279
arrangement but we can't cancel those

534
00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:01,919
contracts through this process and

535
00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:03,760
whether we decide to continue servicing

536
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,440
those areas or let those go that will be

537
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,799
a operational uh conversation of our

538
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,960
team.

539
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,960
Um I think that's basically it. We have

540
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the whole section here about the

541
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sections to comply with the interlocal

542
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,200
cooperation act.

543
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,720
Um everything else is legal boilerplate

544
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,880
I believe. Sure. Yep. That's it. So

545
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that's the agreement we came down to and

546
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,240
what our intention is. If there's any

547
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,520
discussion now we'll take that. Then uh

548
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,520
our next agenda item is the actual

549
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,000
approval. So people if someone feels

550
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,520
prepared to make a vote we can make a

551
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,520
motion. and a second. And then at that

552
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,039
point, we'll also open it up for, you

553
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:46,720
know, one last call for discussion on

554
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,789
the motion.

555
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,120
» Yeah.

556
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,799
>> Um, thank you.

557
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:57,919
>> I may have absolutely

558
00:25:57,919 --> 00:25:59,360
>> absolutely good. So, I just want to

559
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:02,080
point out a few items. So, and for a

560
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,159
benchmark for consideration, the cost of

561
00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:07,840
a new sideload truck these days well

562
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,159
exceeds $400,000.

563
00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:13,440
So, two brand new trucks, whether it's

564
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,919
diesel or even CNG, which are more

565
00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:21,120
expensive, uh would exceed the $825,000

566
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:22,960
uh item that has been identified in this

567
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,520
agreement. Currently, we have 56 side

568
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,240
loads as part of our fleet that we tried

569
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,880
to maintain when we replace new trucks

570
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,840
and we ultimately sell those remaining

571
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,279
items off. We've done an analysis. We've

572
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,000
identified that moving forward we will

573
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,039
need a minimum of 50 trucks. Hence the

574
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,159
determination of the six trucks maximum

575
00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:50,799
as part of this agreement.

576
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:52,480
Another item that I will point out is

577
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,520
that we've done um some some rather

578
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,960
robust internal financial analyses and

579
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,360
we also had a third-party financial

580
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:04,400
impact analysis performed uh which does

581
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,760
show a slight deficit as as it pertains

582
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,640
to the loss of revenue and the

583
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,240
realizable reduction in expenses.

584
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,159
But in both studies and both scenarios,

585
00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:17,520
especially with all the initiatives

586
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,240
we're taking, the PGIs and cost savings,

587
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,080
it does show and demonstrate we can

588
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,720
readily absorb this reduction in service

589
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,520
and revenues that does not indicate any

590
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,279
sort of immediate nor short-term need to

591
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:37,600
adjust or raise our base services. So, things are looking positive from that

592
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,480
perspective. Um, as Rachel mentioned,

593
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,760
you know, this has been a product of of

594
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,520
my entire first year here with the

595
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,080
organization. My my my oney year

596
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,120
anniversary is actually August 25th. So

597
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,440
what you guys seen at that

598
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,480
marvel at this point,

599
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,480
>> myself and and the team and Rachel and uh Chair Gray and and many other of

600
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,720
our board members have spent a

601
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,720
exorbitant amount of time on this

602
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,840
agreement. And although it's not a best

603
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,600
case scenario, it does appear to satisfy

604
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,559
both parties uh collective and uh

605
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,159
interest. It looks like we have a mutual

606
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:20,399
understanding of this. And and from my

607
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:25,600
perspective, it's it's best that we just move on and continue to uh

608
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,919
evaluate, enhance, and optimize our

609
00:28:27,919 --> 00:28:30,240
services. Uh and hopefully put this

610
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,320
behind us uh as soon as possible. That

611
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,720
way we can focus on some of the larger,

612
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,960
more important initiatives to better

613
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,880
service and continue the services we

614
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,200
provide to our remaining partner cities

615
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,640
and the customers throughout S.

616
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,399
>> Thank you. Um so now I'd like to open up

617
00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:50,399
for discussion. It sounded like there

618
00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:53,200
was somebody online

619
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,399
like to to

620
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:57,039
>> Yeah, this is Matt from Cottonwood

621
00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:59,440
Heights. I just as someone who was not

622
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,080
part of that working group uh but who

623
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,200
has read this agreement and also

624
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,600
witnessed and watched the process at the

625
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,320
legislature and all that has taken place

626
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,480
thus far. I just want to commend our

627
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,440
team for doing the amazing work that

628
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,640
they've done and the time they've put

629
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,360
in. And I do want to also echo Evan's

630
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840
sent sentiment that I believe it's best

631
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,440
for the districts in our best interest

632
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,799
to uh take this agreement to approve it

633
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:29,840
today and to move forward. Those are my

634
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,960
comments. Thanks so much.

635
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,070
>> Thank you, Matt. Um

636
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,720
volume

637
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,230
to that control.

638
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,919
Okay, we'll we'll keep going while we

639
00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:48,080
work on that. Any other comments that

640
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,679
people would like to make? I

641
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:53,200
>> I feel somewhat unclear about in the

642
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,080
moving forward process

643
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,799
um if other entities want to withdraw

644
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:02,559
from our district. How it's that case

645
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:07,440
byase basis and this will be I'm just

646
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,279
worried about again. So I think I think

647
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,720
the thing to to clarify is is this

648
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,320
agreement

649
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,840
um is a negotiated settlement. It's not

650
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,080
something that um

651
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,559
>> dictated

652
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:23,919
>> is dictated by law. And so if another

653
00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:26,799
entity were to move forward um this

654
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,480
wouldn't be seen as the precedent for

655
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,559
how to do that. Does that make sense?

656
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:31,520
>> Yes. Thank you.

657
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,840
>> And and and uh Rachel was very clear to

658
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,240
make that explicit in the in the labor.

659
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,480
>> Yeah.

660
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,480
>> Did that answer your question? Yes. Yes.

661
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,600
Thanks.

662
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,880
>> That was a concern that I had too was is

663
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,440
okay, somebody's now watching this, you

664
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,760
know, I I don't want to point fingers in

665
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,440
anybody, so I'll pick on somebody's not

666
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:57,510
here. Say Kurts.

667
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,760
Let's just say Karns, for example, is

668
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,919
watching this. got we should be worse

669
00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:04,159
too watch and see how this plays out

670
00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:07,600
>> and they you know they end up getting

671
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,440
coming out smelling kind of rosy and

672
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,880
district coming out smelling a little

673
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200
less than rosy

674
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,880
we want to look at this and see what we

675
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,039
can get and so that's the the concern

676
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,200
that I had um I know legally we're not

677
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,919
setting a president but practically

678
00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:24,240
we're kind of you know opening the

679
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,000
kimono a little bit and saying this is

680
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,960
kind of how this works um so that's kind

681
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,640
I I can I can speak to that but on the

682
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,760
team wants to speak to that as well.

683
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,600
That is that is definitely something

684
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,120
that was discussed a lot in at length in

685
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,640
the working group. I think we all we all

686
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,440
saw that um for this immediate situation

687
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,120
we felt like given um given the

688
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,399
political um

689
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:55,600
political environment that we're working

690
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320
at, we needed to resolve this fairly

691
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,880
immediately. And our hope is because

692
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,440
there was some ambiguity between the way

693
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,279
we understand our position and and the

694
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:09,029
way her understo

695
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:12,240
uh very soon so that we can clarify

696
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,559
things so that it will not be a problem

697
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:15,840
>> because there's going to be a tipping

698
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,399
point.

699
00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:16,880
>> Agreed.

700
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,840
>> If if

701
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:27,909
and and

702
00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:29,279
the larger

703
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,159
areas, right? If they start with drug,

704
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:34,080
there's a tipping point where this isn't

705
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,519
you can't keep doing this and still have

706
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:36,320
a business.

707
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,159
>> Agreed. And I and I would say that I

708
00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:41,279
don't think that would be our

709
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,519
Yeah. I don't I don't want to get there.

710
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,600
I think that's what I'm saying is is I

711
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,120
don't want to I don't want the first

712
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,440
domino that's falling here to be

713
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,840
something that's going to lead to the

714
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,480
dissolution of this. And if it does,

715
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,679
>> how do we navigate? Right. So that's I'm

716
00:32:57,679 --> 00:32:58,880
again you're right dealing with

717
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,240
legislation given a whole new

718
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,440
the only other thing I was going to say

719
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,279
is I've been married 28 years. This is

720
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,600
my first divorce agreement and uh go get

721
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:13,350
visitation right from the truck.

722
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:19,669
Should we go visit say?

723
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:22,640
» I I would just add that

724
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,240
we were kind of put in this position

725
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,039
like we don't get the choice of saying

726
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,120
we don't want to set any precedent at

727
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,320
all. So, we're just not going to allow

728
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,960
this like it was happening, you know,

729
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,039
and that's that's the hard thing is like

730
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,279
to be told like you you absolutely have

731
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,600
to let cities leave. And that was a very

732
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,519
clear directive of the legislature that

733
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,159
they don't feel like cities should be

734
00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:45,760
not allowed to leave if they don't want

735
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,039
to. So in that context like we had to do

736
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:50,880
it somehow and like no matter what you

737
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,039
do, yeah, you're going to look at as

738
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,679
being presidential. But um yeah, so

739
00:33:57,679 --> 00:33:59,200
we're definitely preserving our ability

740
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,440
to argue our all of our legal points

741
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,120
next time if anybody wants to come out.

742
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,640
But the bigger thing I think to to to

743
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,480
remember and and I think it's our bigger

744
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,599
focus as Evan can speak to is a renewed

745
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:14,879
effort of making sure that everyone

746
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:16,399
remains

747
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:18,560
sees the value of the organization and

748
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,560
is really happy. And I think we've done

749
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,960
a lot in that regards and that's going

750
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,960
to be our strongest uh uh key here is

751
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,280
just continue to be providing really

752
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,919
good service and make it so that no one

753
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:34,720
would ever want to be get any better

754
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:41,440
elsewhere. So I think I think that's one of the main goals. But

755
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,320
>> so yeah, I I would say it's all the

756
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,159
concerns. We we see where you're coming

757
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,399
from, but we really felt like being able

758
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:50,480
to provide the best service and even as

759
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,000
we go through the meeting today and talk

760
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,280
about some of the future initiatives

761
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,440
that we're looking at, we see that we

762
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,440
really the direction that the district

763
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,520
wants to go. Um, and hopefully putting

764
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,480
this to bed, um, and then working on a

765
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,040
plan to clarify the law in the future

766
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,599
can, um, not only help us provide the

767
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:12,160
best service, but also, um, make sure

768
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,960
that we're clear, uh, on the legal

769
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,950
vision.

770
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,440
I I want to just echo the appreciation,

771
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,480
but I know this has been countless hours

772
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,280
for board members and staff and legal

773
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,000
that just how much we appreciate, you

774
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,440
know, that we're able to make this

775
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,119
transition without having to raise

776
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:36,720
rates, without having to, you know,

777
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,359
shrink staff and so on. Thank you.

778
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:40,400
>> Thank you.

779
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,040
>> I go that. Yeah, I know has worked

780
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,000
really hard to protect the staff in in

781
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,280
all of this, which is not an

782
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,320
insignificant task. Um, and and I

783
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,560
appreciate that that he cares that much

784
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,880
about about our staff and that it's just

785
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,160
something that's been really impressive

786
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,520
through all these conversations that

787
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,760
he's brought up repeatedly that I hope I

788
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,440
hope the staff knows how much that he

789
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,560
can work on this with this very

790
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,640
difficult situation as well. So, that's

791
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,040
true. It's very admirable.

792
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:13,190
>> Any other comments?

793
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,839
motion. Yeah, we take a motion to adopt

794
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:19,599
resolution

795
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:23,760
448 approving the interal agreement

796
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,150
terms of withdrawal from the city.

797
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,320
» Matt Holton second.

798
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,359
>> So got a motion and a second. Um do we

799
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:38,560
have any final comments discussion on

800
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,349
the motion?

801
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:47,430
Let's do a roll call vote.

802
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,680
» Barbary

803
00:36:49,680 --> 00:37:01,030
Clark.

804
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,560
» Yes.

805
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,829
>> Shelton.

806
00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:08,240
» Jared Henderson.

807
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:14,150
Abstain

808
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:20,470
spring

809
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:28,470
is muted.

810
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,280
» Still muted.

811
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,470
>> You're muted.

812
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,400
» Let's keep going.

813
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,119
Lee Brunber. Yes.

814
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,920
>> Lindsay Lton.

815
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,000
>> Yay.

816
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,359
>> Percy Houseman.

817
00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:50,630
>> Matt Holton.

818
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,359
» Yes.

819
00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:55,760
>> Nick Griffith

820
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,320
>> with comment to thank the staff and

821
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,560
effort to protect the district's

822
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,200
long-term viability and its best

823
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,829
interests.

824
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:09,119
Nicole Henby.

825
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:10,000
>> Yes.

826
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,280
>> Terry George.

827
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,160
>> Yes.

828
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,680
>> Tessa Stitzer.

829
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,960
>> Zack Jacob.

830
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,030
>> Hi.

831
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,359
» Lorie Stringham.

832
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:27,910
>> I.

833
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,520
» All right. Um we motion passes and we

834
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,640
will go back to the agenda. I just want

835
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,000
to thank everybody. I know this has been

836
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,520
a difficult uh process and decision. Um

837
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,000
and once again

838
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,359
the work of the staff has been

839
00:38:43,359 --> 00:38:51,990
phenomenal on this.

840
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,520
» Well, just you wait. We're got a lot to

841
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,920
talk about.

842
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,760
>> So, let's go back to um the consent

843
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,400
items. Uh, we need to approve the

844
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,599
minutes from the July meeting. Get a

845
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:06,560
motion for that.

846
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,040
>> I move we approve those minutes.

847
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,359
>> Second.

848
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:17,910
>> Motion in a second. Uh, all in favor?

849
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,230
» Second.

850
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,400
» All right. Um, moving on to the business

851
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,200
items. Uh, the general manager report.

852
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Um, from Eddie.

853
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,320
>> Yes. Thank you. I'll be very brief

854
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,720
today. Uh just some some verbal updates

855
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,880
and next month kind of transition

856
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,280
between PGI updates and formal

857
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,440
presentations and an effort to get

858
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,880
through all the other meeting content.

859
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,920
Just a couple brief updates uh for the leader today. Uh we recently

860
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,040
initiated a five-star Google review

861
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,000
campaign. Uh historically we did have

862
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,960
the best ratings on Google. Um, as of

863
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,720
July 13, we had a total of 185 reviews

864
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:04,480
with an unfavorable score of 2.4 stars

865
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,480
out of five on Google.

866
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,359
>> So, we we we recently initiated um kind

867
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:15,520
of a a a goal and a kind of a um what's

868
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,960
the right word? What do we call our

869
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,359
challenge?

870
00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:19,520
>> A challenge. Vice Google review

871
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,359
challenge. And so since that time, which

872
00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:24,480
this only started very early August, we

873
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,560
have gained from our July benchmark 100

874
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,160
reviews. So we're now at 285 reviews and

875
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,040
our Google stars have increased from 2.4

876
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,200
to currently 3.3 out of five. Um, and

877
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,320
there's a lot of things that we've

878
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,800
discussed. There's a lot of ongoing uh

879
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,359
public relations building initiatives, a

880
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:48,000
lot of items to demonstrate the value of

881
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,240
our services. Those are also things I've

882
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,560
been prioritizing on and working through

883
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,400
throughout my tenure and will continue

884
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,760
to do that.

885
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,000
>> How how are you like how are you

886
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,160
encouraging people if they did something

887
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,880
to get those

888
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,839
>> Yeah. So so we have

889
00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:03,520
>> double your reviews almost

890
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,680
>> we have a variety of recognition and

891
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,319
incentive uh rewards that we provide to

892
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:11,040
our team members. And so an effort to to

893
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,319
really kind of boost it because we've

894
00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:14,160
been talking about it for a while and

895
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,000
been trying to kind of build this you

896
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,000
know review. We have QR codes at our

897
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,160
front desk and we remind people to do

898
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,560
that. Uh we created a a incentive

899
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,240
challenge for our customer solutions

900
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,240
team.

901
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,160
>> The the customer solutions team, we ran

902
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,079
this from August now through the month

903
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,560
of November. So the customer solutions

904
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,640
representative based on our existing

905
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,800
recognition programs and rewards that we

906
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,599
have. the the person who has the highest

907
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:42,640
number of five-star reviews uh from a

908
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,119
customer that references their name in the review uh will receive an

909
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:52,400
incentive reward of $500 at the end of the year. And then the person who

910
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,200
receives the second highest number of

911
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,640
fivestar reviews with their name

912
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,599
reference receives a second place

913
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,160
incentive bonus of $250

914
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,839
subject to taxes and applicable

915
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:05,839
deductibles. You have something to add?

916
00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:07,680
>> Yeah, I do. Um, I think one of the

917
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,040
things that's really helped us also is

918
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,720
our new communication channel, which is

919
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,480
text messaging, because it's a lot

920
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,800
easier for our customers to go in and

921
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,560
just click that link and go do the

922
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,200
review right away versus the QR code and

923
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,319
everything else. So, I think that's

924
00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:22,079
really helped us get some of those

925
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:26,230
policy reviews out.

926
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,720
So within budget within you know our our

927
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,440
approved policies for example um we do

928
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,680
have a monthly recognition uh program

929
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,640
for all of our team where uh employees

930
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,960
and and their peers recognize people for

931
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,960
something going above and beyond and

932
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,319
each month we present that as part of a team meeting. There are um voluntary

933
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:48,240
rewards as part of those as well to kind

934
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,240
of boost morale and make sure folks are

935
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,480
recognized in an industry that's

936
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,160
oftentimes out of sight and out of mind

937
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,200
and make sure that they're they're

938
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,839
recognized all over.

939
00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:03,040
>> I attended a water users conference

940
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,720
and uh they said that if the only time

941
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,880
they ever hear from your from your

942
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,599
organization is when your pipe breaks

943
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:13,200
up. That's why yours are always low and

944
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,040
service organizations

945
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,750
think about you.

946
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,960
» Absolutely.

947
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,870
>> They almost never mess up.

948
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,119
» A few other brief updates. We continue

949
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:32,240
to service uh over 80 scrap containers

950
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,079
per day throughout the season. We're in

951
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,720
Mil Creek currently. uh compared to the

952
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:38,880
past average of of of three consecutive

953
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,800
years, we were averaging about 60

954
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,200
containers a day. So we're still well

955
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,920
over a 33% increase in this year's

956
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,480
containerbased services uh which is a

957
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,800
result of of many items later this year.

958
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,200
Probably come October, we'll have a more

959
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,480
comprehensive uh overview uh and provide

960
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,400
some data as to this year's scrap

961
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,920
program once it's all said and done and

962
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,040
have some uh some new numbers for that.

963
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,560
However, at the same time, we continue

964
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,240
to evaluate the uh perspective curbside

965
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:11,040
multi-waste model. Uh today, we do have

966
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,200
some information uh that Rene's put a

967
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,200
lot of uh time and effort into as kind

968
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,839
of some some conceptual preliminary

969
00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:19,760
models on the financial piece, but also

970
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,880
on the operational capacity for such a

971
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,960
program. If you decide to move forward

972
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,800
next month, there will be a lot more

973
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,880
presented as as this the specifications

974
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,440
of the program, size of the pile, what's

975
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,119
accepted, what's not accepted, how do we

976
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,359
manage your control code compliance

977
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:37,520
concerns throughout the main service

978
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,319
areas. Uh but as part of this analysis

979
00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:42,319
that Rene will largely present here

980
00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:44,480
later today, we've been meeting with

981
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,960
other cities that do have existing

982
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,319
herbite meeting. And so very recently we

983
00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:53,119
met with uh city of Flagstaff who I

984
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:55,280
worked with before and managed a

985
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,760
curbside bulky waste program. We also

986
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,680
met with the city of Scottsdale in

987
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,440
Arizona that I've collaborated and built

988
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,520
relationships with. They service I think

989
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,319
it was close to 80,000 residential

990
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:08,880
homes. So kind of a similar uh number of

991
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,880
households that they're servicing. Then

992
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,560
recently, just last week, we met with

993
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,960
the Sandy City Public Works Department

994
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,200
to talk about how they manage their

995
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,359
bulky waste program, uh, needs and

996
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:22,720
methods, frequency of service, capacity

997
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,480
from an operational perspective as well.

998
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,160
So, so more to come on that and this is

999
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,000
all helping to for us to kind of build

1000
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,720
our public relations and to to meet with

1001
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:32,000
the departments that we haven't met with

1002
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,319
before, for example. Uh, and also

1003
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:37,200
recently, uh, I met with, uh, the Utah

1004
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,480
Recycling Alliance that supports and uh

1005
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,480
basically coordinates a variety of these

1006
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,839
charm events. You may have heard of

1007
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:48,950
this, the community harvests.

1008
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,960
Uh so trying to boost our collaboration

1009
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,119
with them. There is a event coming up in Murray and they they partner with a

1010
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:57,440
variety of of different vendors. We're

1011
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,440
going to see how can we help to better

1012
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,359
support those and grow our public

1013
00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:04,240
presence, provide some support from uh

1014
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,480
recycling and recovery perspectives

1015
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,000
during some of those community events.

1016
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,240
So, more to come on that and uh next

1017
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:11,920
month I'll have some more detailed

1018
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,640
information on a couple other items and

1019
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,200
that's all I have prepared for today and

1020
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,839
happy to take any questions.

1021
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:21,599
I think the charm is smart. I know we

1022
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:24,640
don't realize that and I like was in the

1023
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,359
middle of that going well that

1024
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:29,119
does that too, right? So, I'm glad that

1025
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:35,990
you're finding ways to collect other.

1026
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,599
» All right. Um, moving on 3.2, we have

1027
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:43,520
the safety and loss prevention.

1028
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,520
>> Yes, Shane Norris will will join us at

1029
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,440
the table here. He's presented a general

1030
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,200
overview of our current safety program.

1031
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Uh, Shane manages and also oversees our

1032
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,280
um claims process from automotive

1033
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,680
accidents to employee injuries. and

1034
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,760
helps to uh do the investigations from

1035
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,119
beginning to end and make sure that

1036
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:06,160
we're best protecting our staff and and

1037
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,400
uh the organization's uh best interest.

1038
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,480
And so, as you probably remember me

1039
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,160
saying before, this industry,

1040
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,560
particularly the collections piece of

1041
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,040
the solid waste industry, is and has

1042
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,680
continued to be on the top 10 most

1043
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,240
deadliest occupations for a period of

1044
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:24,720
over a decade. Currently, the solid

1045
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,640
waste industry is considered the top

1046
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,520
five uh most deadliest deadliest

1047
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,440
industry to work in. That's largely as

1048
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,480
it pertains to driving and people end up

1049
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,359
getting out of their trucks and also as

1050
00:47:37,359 --> 00:47:39,920
it relates to other folks on the road as

1051
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,800
well. So, so safety and and growing our

1052
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,280
safety culture is something that I'm

1053
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,599
constantly kind of trying to reinforce

1054
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,640
at the organization. Um Shane will pres

1055
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,480
provide a brief overview of his history

1056
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,119
but he used to be in a fire service

1057
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:57,920
department capacity and um I will hand

1058
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,309
it over to him unless

1059
00:48:02,319 --> 00:48:05,440
» good morning. Um I apologize up front

1060
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,839
presentation not being dramatic you just

1061
00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:11,119
dealt with please excuse me with that um

1062
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:14,480
my PowerPoint presentation skills

1063
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,400
they're dated so please excuse me for

1064
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,400
that one as well. Um again my name is

1065
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,280
Shane Norris. Um I started here with um

1066
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,160
East Labor of 22 and the first one to

1067
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,040
hold a fulltime position and safety as

1068
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,720
the uh such waste. Um with that being

1069
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:33,599
said coming in there were a lot of um

1070
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:35,599
issues in that low hanging fruit to

1071
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,480
reach the graph. So I've been doing a

1072
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,720
lot of that and then since then we've

1073
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:43,839
been going a lot of higher thing. I feel

1074
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:46,640
that we as a safety program have done

1075
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,920
significant improvements not just myself

1076
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,319
but as a whole organization but a whole

1077
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:56,160
and just getting complete buying. Um

1078
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,200
first one if you can

1079
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,680
um start with the safety culture um

1080
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,680
that's a big one here that Evan really

1081
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,680
stresses is making sure that we're all

1082
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,000
buying into this. Um this starts with

1083
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,960
recognizing safety issues, trends, using

1084
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,440
those transfer data, selecting that data

1085
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,200
and then acting upon it. I just looking

1086
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,319
at say well we have a problem here. We

1087
00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:20,640
see the problem we want. No, we want to

1088
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,319
deal with that problem. We want to get

1089
00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:25,920
it becomes a bigger problem. Um so

1090
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,440
starting with that it just that just

1091
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,480
starts with SOP identifying writing SOPs

1092
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,079
and different things the policies that

1093
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:34,480
help us with that having review to make

1094
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,280
sure that we're doing the right thing

1095
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,800
not just the right thing for the

1096
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,640
organization but the right thing for the

1097
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,400
individuals who are actually ones on the

1098
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,720
ground doing the work. Um, as Evan

1099
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,680
mentioned, it it is a d a dangerous job.

1100
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,000
Even though we are doing um where we're

1101
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,640
out picking up the trash bin,

1102
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,200
we still have significance accidents and

1103
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,400
injuries and bad things that um part of

1104
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,880
the safety culture also entails is, you

1105
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,440
know, practicing what you preach. It's

1106
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,599
very big, but as we sit in this office,

1107
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:06,640
most of us are in here. We're not

1108
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,359
wearing safety vests or safety helmets.

1109
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:11,200
We're not out in the field. I'm not

1110
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,880
wearing steel total protective shoes

1111
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,040
right now. They're comfortable office

1112
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,119
shoes here. But when we go out in the

1113
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:20,160
field, um supervisors, managers, even

1114
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,400
the executive staff, um practice, they

1115
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,400
put on the safety. We expect everyone

1116
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,480
else to wear high visibility. We expect

1117
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,160
them to they want to see us wearing it.

1118
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,280
They're like, "Look, if you want us to

1119
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,319
do it, you know, so when Helen's out

1120
00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:33,839
there, you know, doing something in the

1121
00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:36,480
field, she's got her vest on." That's

1122
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,640
important because they see that. they

1123
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,920
realize the element takes this

1124
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,680
seriously. I need to take this seriously

1125
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,960
because sometimes the helment we're not

1126
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,480
going to get paid. So it's very

1127
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,720
important that is safe to protect all of

1128
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:47,680
us.

1129
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,599
>> Um so with that it's also you know

1130
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:53,680
making sure that we have appropriated

1131
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,200
the correct funds that we need to

1132
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,960
provide whether it's fair training. We

1133
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,680
just had a third party come in and do

1134
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,839
extensive fire extinguisher training

1135
00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:03,200
through department of transportation.

1136
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,040
day after I had a fire extinguisher

1137
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,559
train. So we brought out a party, had a

1138
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:08,160
live fire. We'll see a picture of it

1139
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:13,680
here in a minute. Um out in the back here and people had never fired

1140
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,800
extinguisher got to play with

1141
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,640
extinguishers, got to do multiple times.

1142
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,280
So we let the office of staff come in

1143
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,520
and have a fire extinguisher. So that

1144
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,040
cost money because we had to pay for the

1145
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,800
products, the trainers and some other

1146
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,599
things. Fortunately, we were able to do

1147
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:30,559
that.

1148
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:32,640
And again, if I if I use an acronym or

1149
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,319
any kind of terminology, please stop me

1150
00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:36,880
and let um let you help you understand

1151
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,880
what I'm trying to say. Thank you, Rene.

1152
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,559
Um so, basically, it starts we want to

1153
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,079
start off with some training. Um just

1154
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:47,040
what we do with our operators. Um Monday

1155
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,359
morning tailgates. This is something we

1156
00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:51,839
give out every Monday obviously and it's

1157
00:51:51,839 --> 00:51:54,319
just a brief training of something. this

1158
00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:56,000
today. They got basically a friendly

1159
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,920
reminder, just some things we try to

1160
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,520
some small topics we want to just make

1161
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,240
sure they have on the the forefront and

1162
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,559
we let the leads do this. Um the leads

1163
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:06,400
are the ones the teams that are on the

1164
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,440
field. Um we let them kind of we try to

1165
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,000
keep it under 10 to 15 minutes just a

1166
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,760
small training just something where the

1167
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,680
lease can have interaction first thing

1168
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,240
in the during the week Monday morning

1169
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:21,200
have interaction with all their um team

1170
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,839
discuss things and again there are

1171
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:25,359
various things and again this one was

1172
00:52:25,359 --> 00:52:27,040
from the reminders last week was back to

1173
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,839
school um don't really think about it

1174
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:31,359
but when school's back in session it

1175
00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:34,079
really affects us timing affects more

1176
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:36,000
people on the road um kids running

1177
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,800
around not paying attention. So that was

1178
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,280
last week. So try to keep a very current

1179
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,079
thing with our Monday morning tailgates.

1180
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:46,160
Um safety standowns is something we do

1181
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,400
once the month and that's going back and

1182
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,520
reviewing previous months um accidents,

1183
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,760
injuries, anything that important that

1184
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,359
happened back then that they should be

1185
00:52:55,359 --> 00:52:58,400
made aware about. Excuse me. What that's

1186
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,040
doing is that's we're not making fun of

1187
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,640
people because they had an accident.

1188
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,920
We're just saying, hey, well, this

1189
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,839
happened. This could happen to you. we

1190
00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:07,440
don't want this to happen. And then we

1191
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,750
have discussion what what could be,

1192
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,119
you know, we look out for in the future

1193
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:14,480
to make sure this doesn't happen to you

1194
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,839
or or someone else. Um and then at the

1195
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:19,760
end of the month we offer um basically

1196
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,359
our bread and butter safety trainings.

1197
00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:25,520
This last month we did a obstacle

1198
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,359
course. We set up some cones. We worked

1199
00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:29,280
on bagging. So all the drivers, anyone

1200
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,839
who operates a commercial vehicle is

1201
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:33,599
going through some movement obstacle

1202
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:36,319
course. Um this week is basically just

1203
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:38,400
doing the post check offs and what to

1204
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,920
look for and specific items and

1205
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,319
everything on the trust just making sure

1206
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:43,760
we're being compliant with department

1207
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,119
transportations for CDO directors.

1208
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,280
So that's basically operation training

1209
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,319
um for no question

1210
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:55,040
managers and supervisors. Um, obviously

1211
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,640
with the higher position, we try to have

1212
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,400
a little bit more detailed um, training,

1213
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,480
like with distracted driving, what to

1214
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,720
look for, not necessarily them doing the

1215
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:06,079
distracted driving, but what to look for

1216
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:07,440
when they're out in the field observing

1217
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,079
our drivers. Um, making sure they're not

1218
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:11,119
on their cell phones, they're not

1219
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:12,880
talking on the radios too much. They're

1220
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,359
making sure the seat belts.

1221
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:18,160
Um, accident investigation reporting. We

1222
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,599
do training on this once a year. Is

1223
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:20,800
basically just staying current with our

1224
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,280
trends on how we investigate accidents.

1225
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,839
for ourselves. Um, this is really big.

1226
00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:29,040
We give you like accident

1227
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,880
investigation with the insurance and

1228
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,480
everything. This is kind of where it

1229
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,040
starts here. Reasonable suspicion. We

1230
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,839
had this training uh last week. Um, this

1231
00:54:37,839 --> 00:54:41,359
is required for people who um have CDL

1232
00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:42,960
drivers working for them. Managers,

1233
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,960
supervisors are required to have my

1234
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,119
annual reasonable suspicion of drug and

1235
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:49,119
alcohol. what to look for, signs and

1236
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,119
symptoms, um just different things to

1237
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:52,880
make sure we're staying on top of that.

1238
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,880
It goes in line with our drug alcohol

1239
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,200
testing policy.

1240
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,160
Um injury response, what to do, you

1241
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,040
know, what someone gets hurt on the job

1242
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,800
type of things where they need to be in

1243
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,800
the ER, can we just take them to our

1244
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,800
work position?

1245
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,559
Maybe somebody just they got hurt, but

1246
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:12,319
they don't want to report it. It's like,

1247
00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:15,839
you know, look, I wrote my ankle. So,

1248
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:17,520
we're like, okay, let's document that

1249
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,760
with the Utah's first reported injury.

1250
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,119
That just kind of starts the thing

1251
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:22,480
because if tomorrow you can't get out of

1252
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,480
bed, your ankle now the paperwork is

1253
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,240
started. It's an easier flow into the

1254
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:31,270
system. It just releases right into

1255
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,520
hazard spill prevention and cleanup.

1256
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,160
Unfortunately, we have some hydraulic

1257
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,079
spills issues that happen. Mark our

1258
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:40,880
truck. So, 50 gallons hydraulic fuel. So

1259
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,200
you can imagine when 50 gallons of nasty

1260
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,280
stuff leaks or spills, it can be a mess

1261
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,359
and the pump's on. If we don't catch it

1262
00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:50,880
soon enough, it can be pretty ugly.

1263
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,640
We'll have another We'll discuss that a

1264
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,920
little further down, but we want to make

1265
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,119
sure our supervisors know what to do

1266
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:57,119
when they show up, how to get down the

1267
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,280
proper

1268
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:06,789
erator

1269
00:56:06,799 --> 00:56:07,839
staff, you know, we can't leave out the

1270
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:09,119
office staff here. We got to make sure

1271
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:10,720
that uh they're safe. They're doing

1272
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:13,359
everything they're supposed to do. Um

1273
00:56:13,359 --> 00:56:16,079
because we are in a county facility, we

1274
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:17,599
um kind of piggyback off the county's

1275
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:20,319
emergency response. This manual is what

1276
00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:22,960
to do if a bomb press

1277
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:27,920
the shooter shows up, fire alarms, gun

1278
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,880
co.

1279
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,040
So we work hand in hand. Uh Rusty

1280
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,720
upstairs is my safety counterpart with

1281
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:36,640
the county. She and I meet about once a

1282
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,960
year just kind of talk about everything.

1283
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,400
Ergonomics, that's kind of a new

1284
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,000
important topic, especially for office

1285
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,480
staff. Um, we've identified we were

1286
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,000
having some different issues, some of

1287
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,240
back, some leg issue going on. Um, and

1288
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:52,720
then we recognize that and that's thank

1289
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:54,720
you for approving, but we got new office

1290
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,400
chairs finally. So, have one more gap

1291
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,119
for someone who's larger guy fit in. So,

1292
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:04,559
it fits me a lot. Thank you. when you're

1293
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:06,319
sitting in a chair all day, it makes

1294
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:09,520
sense something great. Uh first aid, we

1295
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,119
want to make everybody's current on

1296
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:14,880
first aid CPR. We do offer CPR training

1297
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,520
twice a year to our staff. Make sure

1298
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,079
everybody's knows what's going on. Um

1299
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:21,680
getting an active shooter, fire,

1300
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,440
earthquake drill. We've worked with the

1301
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,760
Utah Shakeout. We've had them come in

1302
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,799
and do some training. It's kind of fun

1303
00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:32,640
because they they bring some fun stuff.

1304
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,559
Then we have some online options that

1305
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:37,280
are given to us through Utah trust

1306
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,040
reliant. It's um different topics.

1307
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,839
Sometimes we'll use that um judges hazel

1308
00:57:43,839 --> 00:57:47,680
here maybe a workplace um bullying or

1309
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,680
harassment or something. We can do them

1310
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,839
online. We have ways to track it to see

1311
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:53,280
where everything and who's taking and

1312
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,200
who's doing well to make sure everybody

1313
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,359
stay compliant.

1314
00:57:57,359 --> 00:58:02,079
So that is training. Any questions

1315
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:04,000
for you? Trying to go fast. I know you

1316
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,200
guys want to get up.

1317
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,040
Um, so the Utah Local Government's Trust

1318
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,280
is our basically our insurance agency

1319
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,240
that we work. Um, they have 650

1320
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,440
different cities, counties, districts

1321
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,079
throughout the state.

1322
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:23,359
They actually do a real good job.

1323
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:25,760
They're a great resource for us. Um I

1324
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,760
use them consistently

1325
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,839
um to questions how we do things

1326
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:34,480
about having an issue with workers comp

1327
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,160
representative I reach out to them and

1328
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,480
before I know what my issues were solved

1329
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,440
so we're very fortunate to have them um

1330
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,440
but with that they have some things that

1331
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,400
they expect from us um infrastructure

1332
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,920
inspections

1333
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,760
they essentially making sure you know

1334
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,720
once a month I walk the entire property

1335
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,720
um to look for any kind of hazards any

1336
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,799
kind of crack in the sidewalk, any kind

1337
00:58:56,799 --> 00:58:58,640
of issue that cause an injury or

1338
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,640
something. Again, because we're a

1339
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,760
county, you have to work with the county

1340
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,160
to get it fixed. Um the most recent

1341
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,520
probably large scale was a few years

1342
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,240
ago, we had to identify

1343
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,280
that need to repainting down to CGI

1344
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,640
brought to the board. The board approved

1345
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,280
it and so now we made a lot of trips and

1346
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,680
areas and then some slips and stuff I

1347
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,520
um complaint documentation. This is a

1348
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,799
new one. So basically what the trust is

1349
00:59:24,799 --> 00:59:26,079
asking is that we start the

1350
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:27,520
documentation when we have a customer

1351
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,599
complaint come in it they want to know

1352
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:32,079
that first phone call. So now we we have

1353
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:33,440
implemented where we're documenting

1354
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,400
everything through emails to where if

1355
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,079
the complaint does go to some kind of

1356
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:39,839
financial issue where we have to file a

1357
00:59:39,839 --> 00:59:42,160
claim they have a paper trail of where

1358
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,359
that um came from. Um employee

1359
00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:47,760
management policy review. This is just

1360
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,200
making sure that we're holding our

1361
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,040
compliance, that we're reviewing our

1362
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,040
SLPs and our policy manual to make sure

1363
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,960
it's current, making sure we're seeking

1364
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,040
legal advice periodically to make sure

1365
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,319
that we're not doing anything we

1366
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:01,280
shouldn't be doing.

1367
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,720
From risk assessment, it says um making

1368
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,200
sure that we have audits that come in

1369
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,559
every now and then. So, making sure that

1370
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:11,520
the number we put down, the amount for

1371
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,280
salaries for workers comp and

1372
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,319
everything, making sure that's

1373
01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:16,319
compliant.

1374
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:18,400
Well, mayor and legal awareness is just

1375
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,000
making sure we're staying up to date.

1376
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,839
Um, they require us, I see us meeting to

1377
01:00:23,839 --> 01:00:28,559
I have to sit through legal training, that to sit through. I

1378
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:30,480
got to stay current on liability, legal

1379
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,119
issues and trends and everything just

1380
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:35,520
make sure that I'm staying educated

1381
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,630
everything that I need to do.

1382
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,680
Um, driver accountability, making sure

1383
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,040
that we hold our drivers accountable,

1384
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,400
making sure that we're doing background

1385
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,599
checks on them, checking all our

1386
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:51,839
drivers when they come in to the company

1387
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:54,720
to make sure they're safe for distracted

1388
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,680
driving policies, SOPs, making sure

1389
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,440
again that we're following that we're

1390
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,640
doing everything we can to mitigate the

1391
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,240
distracted driving and try to take

1392
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,680
specific things away. Um, we have some

1393
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,440
drivers who they love to talk on the

1394
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,799
radio, but driving, so we have to kind

1395
01:01:10,799 --> 01:01:13,359
of get on about that. Supervisor

1396
01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:15,040
accountability is making sure that we

1397
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,559
are holding our supervisor accountable,

1398
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:18,079
that they're out doing their job, making

1399
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:19,920
sure that everyone is playing safe and

1400
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,720
playing by the rules, no one's speeding,

1401
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,240
no one's talking on their phones,

1402
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,200
wearing their seat belts. Um, high risk

1403
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,839
driver trigger. This is something that

1404
01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:31,280
we we have documentation through

1405
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,599
accidents that if we start realizing

1406
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:35,760
there's a driver with a trend, it may be

1407
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:36,880
something small, may hit a little

1408
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,559
mailbox one day, they may hit a fence

1409
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:40,720
one day, get a tree one day, and they'll

1410
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,480
seem small when you look at them one by

1411
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,799
one, but as they accumulate over a six

1412
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:46,480
month or 12 month period, you realize

1413
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,079
that you may have a driver that's just

1414
01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:49,760
being unsafe or not doing what they're

1415
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,079
supposed to do. So that lets us know, we

1416
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:53,680
review that once a week. We look at

1417
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,359
specific drivers and their history and

1418
01:01:55,359 --> 01:01:58,319
their trends and then we take action.

1419
01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:00,240
That action may be retraining. It may be

1420
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,760
bringing them in, putting them with

1421
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,319
another driver or some senior to kind of

1422
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:06,240
follow them. Sometimes supervisors get

1423
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,160
in there. We got a young lady who's

1424
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,079
having difficulty with backing. So we

1425
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:12,480
put a supervisor in there with her drove

1426
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,480
around and just did some training on the

1427
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,079
job training just to make sure she's

1428
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:21,910
comfortable with acting.

1429
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,000
Um documentation and compliance with the

1430
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,920
trust. Also, I'm not going to read all

1431
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,920
these things. So, if you have anything

1432
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,000
um anything up that kind of sticks out

1433
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,480
to you, basically my job is to make sure

1434
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,640
we're doing all of this to make sure

1435
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,319
that we're keeping a reporting, make

1436
01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:39,680
sure we have updates, medical care, um a

1437
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,000
return to work policy.

1438
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,960
So, what this does is with us making

1439
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,480
sure because we get basically audited

1440
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,400
from the trust once a year. They come

1441
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,599
in, they sit down with me, and I'm going

1442
01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:51,040
to provide documentation that we're

1443
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,520
doing all this. And in doing so, we

1444
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,599
receive a 5%

1445
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:59,680
reduction in our premiums. Uh that that

1446
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,400
sometimes can be substantial. So that's

1447
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,000
just one way that we're saving money

1448
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,079
using the trust. They just by doing this

1449
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:08,799
documentation, making sure they come in,

1450
01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:12,799
they just where's this, where's this, we move over, it is once

1451
01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:14,640
they're satisfied, then we get our

1452
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,160
annual driver sent.

1453
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,920
>> Where are the VRs?

1454
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,200
>> All the vehicle records.

1455
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,000
>> Oh. So once a month, every driver who's

1456
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,839
employed here with a CDL, including

1457
01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:27,920
myself, operation manager David, um we

1458
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,480
get checked. So if

1459
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,240
any of it's heading out the window this

1460
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,760
weekend, had a little too much, we're

1461
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,160
going to know about it real quick. Um

1462
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,839
and where that comes into play, again

1463
01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:40,079
going back to the trigger hazards, if I

1464
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:42,400
have a driver who's got several speeding

1465
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,799
tickets, be able to use blanker, even if

1466
01:03:44,799 --> 01:03:46,480
they're in their personal vehicle, we're

1467
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,760
going to know about it. So, you know

1468
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,440
what's funny? He got citation for

1469
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,960
speeding and then we call him speeding

1470
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,599
over here and then we can address that

1471
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:56,640
for you.

1472
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,799
>> There any questions on the trust that I

1473
01:03:58,799 --> 01:04:02,789
could answer?

1474
01:04:02,799 --> 01:04:06,160
» Okay. Now, the fun stuff.

1475
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,240
Unfortunately, we do have accidents. Um

1476
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,799
sometimes the incidents sometimes our

1477
01:04:10,799 --> 01:04:13,200
fault, sometimes not our fault.

1478
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,000
So the process um essentially once the

1479
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,200
accident happens, the driver reaches

1480
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,319
out, calls the manager or the

1481
01:04:20,319 --> 01:04:21,599
supervisor, we go out and do an

1482
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:23,760
investigation. We coordinate with police

1483
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,440
officers. If police are involved, if

1484
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,200
911's involved, of course, they're the

1485
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,280
first go take care of the emergency. Um

1486
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,880
and our supervisors again do their

1487
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,079
training. They make sure they get a

1488
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:35,599
witness statements. They get a statement

1489
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:38,400
from your party, our information, the

1490
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,799
driver statement. collect whatever the

1491
01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:43,039
information you need. They bring it back

1492
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:46,079
in here once a week to go over the

1493
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:49,280
accident. We determine what it's fault

1494
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,119
at fault or corrective action needs to

1495
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:54,559
be taken there that follows through

1496
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:57,440
there. We keep a point system.

1497
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,119
Basically, you have an accident that

1498
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:01,599
you're found at fault. Points accumulate

1499
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:05,520
once you get to certain notice actions

1500
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,839
and so on.

1501
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:10,319
in-house claims. Um, so what this is,

1502
01:05:10,319 --> 01:05:13,520
let's say we sometimes we'll just damage

1503
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,839
a mailbox, something that we don't want

1504
01:05:15,839 --> 01:05:18,480
to file an insurance our deductible the

1505
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,160
insurance on anything that starts at

1506
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,359
$10,000. So, if I can handle that at

1507
01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:26,079
$3,000 with an in-house payment, it

1508
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:28,640
saves that much money. And then it also

1509
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,359
saves us in the premiums of the backend

1510
01:05:31,359 --> 01:05:33,680
years. Just like you have an accident,

1511
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,599
you have a little ding, you know, next

1512
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:36,559
thing you know, your insurance is

1513
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:37,839
probably going to go up the bottom year

1514
01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:40,559
because of that. We try to handle small

1515
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:43,039
things, negotiate with whomever, the

1516
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:45,680
other property owner, and just work it

1517
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,400
out. Once we work out and I usually have

1518
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,839
a little sit down, we discuss what's

1519
01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:51,599
going on. We discuss it. the estimates

1520
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:53,680
that were provided to us and then if

1521
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,799
approved go from there uh making sure

1522
01:05:56,799 --> 01:05:58,319
that we file the proper paperwork

1523
01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:00,079
following with the notice of claim which

1524
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:02,480
required by the state of Utah anytime

1525
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,440
anybody's receiving financial back from

1526
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,400
a government entity or city and then

1527
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,160
getting a property release signed.

1528
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,880
>> So it makes sense that you would just

1529
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,960
pay out of pocket for anything below the

1530
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,480
deductible. Is there an amount of above

1531
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,920
the deductible you would just pay out

1532
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,520
with this result? Because I've done that

1533
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,760
myself where it's like not worth dealing

1534
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,880
with the insurance

1535
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,400
>> that it would be case by case,

1536
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:26,799
>> right?

1537
01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:28,960
>> Um and there are some that fall under

1538
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,200
the $10,000, but when they start getting

1539
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,440
into like rental cars and other things

1540
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,520
like that, we don't have a policy or

1541
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,039
anything that dictates how we would

1542
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:38,799
handle that. So, we just kind of right

1543
01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:42,960
now live saying go with that. We You'd

1544
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,720
be surprised. I don't want to get into

1545
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,319
detail some of the craziness we deal

1546
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:48,720
with. with people demanding a brand new

1547
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,559
car, people demanding, you know, it's a scrape down the road.

1548
01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:53,440
>> Yeah.

1549
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,160
>> So that again would be a case by case.

1550
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,920
Now we have done that in the case of our

1551
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,160
own field. We have damage. We had an

1552
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,400
accident last year and we decided to

1553
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,960
write that off and keep it file just

1554
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:11,029
because

1555
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,680
» Okay. And then uh last training we get

1556
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,000
our drivers back on route discuss that

1557
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,640
if there's any kind of issue um we get

1558
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,880
the proper training

1559
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,240
make sure they feel comfortable to get

1560
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,559
them back to route. We have some drivers

1561
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:26,079
who have an accident and doesn't phase

1562
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:27,359
them. We have some drivers that are

1563
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:29,280
literally taking two days off of work

1564
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,559
for getting treat. So it's just we just

1565
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:36,319
got a case by case basis. Thank you. Um

1566
01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:38,000
this is just some quick numbers. arm

1567
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,799
functions for 24 and 25 for the year. Um

1568
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:45,119
there's a lot going on with the arm. I

1569
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:46,400
believe most of you have seen the arm

1570
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,920
functions both on those. Um sometimes we

1571
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,319
put our drivers in bad situations,

1572
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:54,240
narrow streets, cars parked on both

1573
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,680
sides of the streets, overgrown trees,

1574
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,000
mailboxes, whatever. So yes, they're

1575
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:00,880
supposed to get out and move, but

1576
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:01,920
sometimes they don't have anywhere to

1577
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,680
move it. and then trying to get the can

1578
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,839
and reach it and the same. Um,

1579
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:08,880
unfortunately backing is something that

1580
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,799
we we charge for zero backing accidents

1581
01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:13,839
annually, but unfortunately we have um

1582
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:16,319
but we do require drivers to back up

1583
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:18,640
lines. There's a lot of backing. Some of

1584
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,640
our drivers will literally have 40

1585
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,880
backends a day backing into a culac off

1586
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,799
of a busy intersection. So luckily those

1587
01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:30,880
heavier backing rails we do try to draw

1588
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,960
more experienced senior drivers on

1589
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,239
those.

1590
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:36,480
>> Thank you.

1591
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:38,480
>> Um just some fun little pictures here.

1592
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:40,000
Um this is a hydraulic spill that

1593
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,759
happened last year. We discussed that

1594
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:44,960
earlier. The driver identified the

1595
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,400
hydraulic league reached out the

1596
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,719
supervisors through their training. They

1597
01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:50,480
came out. We started mitigating the

1598
01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:52,000
spill as much as possible, get more

1599
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,759
dried down, getting the proper

1600
01:08:53,759 --> 01:08:56,080
resources, uh, dispatched to the area to

1601
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,159
make sure that we had enough people on

1602
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:00,239
site to deal with it. This also comes

1603
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:03,279
with notifying the municipality that

1604
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,920
we're in or the special municipal

1605
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,839
special districts to let them know we

1606
01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:09,279
have this, we're in your area, we're

1607
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:11,520
working on it. Um, we also reach out to

1608
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,279
the health department to notify them.

1609
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:14,880
Sometimes we get response from them,

1610
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,640
sometimes we don't. But they're a great

1611
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,400
resource to come out and help us take

1612
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,000
care of the incident. And if it does

1613
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,960
escalate beyond our resources, they can

1614
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,520
come in with more more resources to help

1615
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,030
us.

1616
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,560
Um, this is just to show you what some

1617
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,640
of our drivers deal with. Um, this is

1618
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,440
just a typical street

1619
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:37,520
neighborhood here.

1620
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,520
You can tell how old the trees are with

1621
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,159
the cars.

1622
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:43,920
This time of year, we hit a lot of tree

1623
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,239
branches. Obviously, our trucks are 12

1624
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:48,319
and a half, 13 ft tall. As we're

1625
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:50,480
cruising down, we have to go down the

1626
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:52,400
road. We really have an option. So, our

1627
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,159
drivers try to be careful, but this time

1628
01:09:54,159 --> 01:09:55,760
of year, things are growing. You know,

1629
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,440
they may a month ago, it may not be

1630
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:00,159
there. This month, there's a tree

1631
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:02,320
sitting up the road. Right now we're

1632
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,640
getting a lot of communication, lower

1633
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,920
line, power line type stuff. Um, so what

1634
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,440
happens? So we spoke at parking lot

1635
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:12,000
power and if they don't come right is

1636
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,719
they heat up like most plastic or rubber

1637
01:10:14,719 --> 01:10:17,440
it starts to sag and then the bow

1638
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:19,679
driver's been down that road every

1639
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:21,440
Tuesday all year long and all of a

1640
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:24,239
sudden yesterday was 110 degrees

1641
01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:25,920
whatever and they go down they catch the

1642
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,400
power alarm. Sometimes the power line

1643
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,120
snaps or the line itself snaps. Um,

1644
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,880
sometimes we take a few holes. So, next

1645
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,360
video here. Um, it's kind of grainy.

1646
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,520
It's obviously a rainy day, but if you

1647
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,239
kind of look just up the top, Rene, if

1648
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:43,600
you can kind of point out the power line

1649
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,640
just at the top of the road. Um, right

1650
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,800
in there. That's a power line that was

1651
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,360
installed. This is a Tuesday route.

1652
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:52,960
We've been down the road the Tuesday

1653
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,120
before. The power line wasn't installed.

1654
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:56,960
They installed it between that Tuesday

1655
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,400
and then they decided to add it. Um, so

1656
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,880
our driver hopefully the sound you make

1657
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:07,990
sure the sound off right

1658
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,920
you guys hearing our drivers and someone

1659
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,719
talking themselves have like a podcast

1660
01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:13,360
on

1661
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,199
>> Yeah. So anyway, you can see the power

1662
01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:17,199
line a lot better there. Again, this was

1663
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:19,920
recently Kong. Um, and here in just a

1664
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,120
second we're going to catch that with

1665
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,800
the top of our truck. And if you start

1666
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,159
looking towards the right of the camera,

1667
01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:28,320
you'll start seeing Transformers block.

1668
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,320
you start seeing. So right now the power

1669
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,159
line is on the truck.

1670
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:33,840
>> The communication f I don't want to see

1671
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:39,669
power line

1672
01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:46,310
you start seeing flashes.

1673
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,080
Just a second. Another one pop right

1674
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,600
there.

1675
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,239
Um our driver realizes uh oh something

1676
01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:54,960
wrong. Backs up realizes the lines on

1677
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,679
his truck. Um, unfortunately this

1678
01:11:57,679 --> 01:12:00,000
happens quite a bit. I've formed a good

1679
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,199
relationship now with Rocky Mountain

1680
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:03,760
Power. Reach out to them. So, in showing

1681
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,199
you this, what we try to do is we

1682
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:06,640
encourage our drivers through training

1683
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,320
and conversation to say, "Hey, will you

1684
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,320
identify this line's low or a tree is

1685
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,760
low or there's some form of hazard? Let

1686
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,760
us know." So, I've got Rocky Mountain

1687
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,840
Power. I work flows again with other

1688
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,120
service districts and their goals and

1689
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:21,280
public works to try to mitigate this as fast as possible because this pulled

1690
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,600
down two power lines and two power poles

1691
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,159
that landed on someone's house. So that

1692
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:27,760
could have been really ugly.

1693
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,280
Fortunately, Rocky Mountain Power signed

1694
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,800
off and this is not our fault that the

1695
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,360
line was going low and we got lucky with

1696
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,159
that one. So

1697
01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:41,040
the next one here, next video,

1698
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,120
Rene, if you can kind of just jump to

1699
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,669
about 30 seconds.

1700
01:12:47,679 --> 01:12:49,600
This is just some of the stuff our

1701
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,199
drivers have to deal with. This is just

1702
01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:54,320
one of those again Mil Creek. um just

1703
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,199
from the storm that just came in super

1704
01:12:57,199 --> 01:13:00,239
fast. Our drivers, this guy over here,

1705
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,480
the one you see, he he slipping and

1706
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:04,480
sliding and our driver is going to try

1707
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:06,239
to make it down the hill. We've got

1708
01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:13,910
another chance.

1709
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,679
And so he's going then you'll see the miles per hour up there go to zero,

1710
01:13:17,679 --> 01:13:30,149
but he's still moving.

1711
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:37,270
Yeah.

1712
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,880
» And then he's setting right out

1713
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,040
the major intersection. He is complete

1714
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,880
slide. His rear ends going out from

1715
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:51,110
under him.

1716
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:55,840
Yeah, you slide away. There's no rolling

1717
01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:00,149
doing everything. Can

1718
01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:01,679
» I just want to put this in there just to

1719
01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:03,600
let you know that some of the hazards

1720
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,199
that our drivers do face. I mean, these

1721
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:06,560
trucks, you would think they would do

1722
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:07,840
really well in the snow, but they do

1723
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,560
not. Um, just like a normal pickup

1724
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,080
truck, if you don't have four drive, the

1725
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,560
rear end is pretty light.

1726
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,480
This just happened.

1727
01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:18,480
Yeah, don't mind us.

1728
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:19,840
>> Oh, it'll be fine.

1729
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:28,149
>> Yeah.

1730
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:29,679
» So, anyway, as you can tell, he just

1731
01:14:29,679 --> 01:14:30,800
slides right out to the major

1732
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,120
intersection here. Fortunately for us,

1733
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,920
there are anyone else or no cars coming

1734
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,600
and our driver did a great job as a

1735
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,360
professional and he straight right out

1736
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:48,229
and finished his round.

1737
01:14:48,239 --> 01:15:04,950
Thank you.

1738
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,679
» Okay. Yep. I'll move that. Okay. So, um

1739
01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:09,440
this is just showing some insurance and

1740
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:11,360
monies um that happened with automobile

1741
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,360
claims. Um, obviously 2024 is up there

1742
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,040
for the more senior members of the

1743
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,480
board. You may remember the sugar house

1744
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:20,239
incident. This is where that money came

1745
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:24,560
from. Um, it was an expensive year. Um,

1746
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,040
25 last year we had some damage with a

1747
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,840
truck on public trust. You can kind of

1748
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,560
see our trend in 26. Knock on wood. We

1749
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,480
seem to be doing really well with our

1750
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:38,159
money and everything so far. Any

1751
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:42,239
question of reading those numbers? Okay.

1752
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:44,960
U workers compensation. Um again we

1753
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,159
discussed earlier about filling out the

1754
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:48,000
person report of injury making sure that

1755
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,920
we we're notified of every injury so we

1756
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,080
can collect the date and the trends. We

1757
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,320
do have policies for restricted duty.

1758
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,320
That's when someone who's injured on the

1759
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,159
job and they have to return to work but

1760
01:15:58,159 --> 01:15:59,760
they can't drive commercially vehicle.

1761
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,760
So basically some kind of clerical work

1762
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,920
or we have some smaller route audit type

1763
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,400
of work we have them do. We do have a

1764
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,400
return to work process depending upon

1765
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,880
the injury and how long the employee was

1766
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,400
out work on the retraining and the

1767
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:15,760
everything. It's again it's a case by

1768
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,280
case. If you miss two weeks of work, you

1769
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:18,640
don't need as much training as someone

1770
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,960
like I've got individual out six months.

1771
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,080
Obviously, that individual is going to

1772
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,199
have to have a lot of retraining once

1773
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:26,480
they come back. Um, this all affects our

1774
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:29,520
uh EOD. You have to experience

1775
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:30,960
familiar with EOD. That's our experience

1776
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,880
modification factor. That's what

1777
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,360
determines our comp premiums through our

1778
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,600
insurance. The higher the number,

1779
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,120
obviously, the higher we're going to pay

1780
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,560
at the end of the end of the day with

1781
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,199
our premiums. Um, our E mod when I

1782
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:46,640
started here in 22 was 2.33

1783
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,239
with one being ideal, one being perfect.

1784
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:54,400
2025, we cut it down to 0.74,

1785
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,560
now 1.26, six showing us a savings of

1786
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,000
over $21,000 just from handling the

1787
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,080
workers comp claims and having fewer

1788
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,719
claims everything they've gone through

1789
01:17:06,719 --> 01:17:10,159
with that. Um and then the next slide is

1790
01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:13,120
just some showing some of the numbers um

1791
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:21,910
with injuries. Um 2026 this just to help

1792
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,360
chair

1793
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,159
>> the claim for 2026. This is actually

1794
01:17:26,159 --> 01:17:28,159
just two claims. This the one individual

1795
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:29,760
I told you has been out six months with

1796
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,239
a rotator torn rotator cuff.

1797
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:34,719
>> We're pushing $90,000 just on that one

1798
01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:37,199
individual. So th this number the 112 is

1799
01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:40,320
literally just two individuals um claims

1800
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,400
filed for the year. So it's just

1801
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,360
expenses are getting higher as we all

1802
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,840
things going up. Are there any questions

1803
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,840
with this?

1804
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,440
>> Awesome.

1805
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:53,120
Well, thank you. I appreciate the

1806
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:54,960
opportunity to speak before you and

1807
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,520
there's no more questions. I will be

1808
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,080
>> Thank you so much.

1809
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,000
for all you do to keep

1810
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:06,640
our uh everybody safe. know that.

1811
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:12,719
>> All right. Um, let's move on to 3.3. Um,

1812
01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:14,159
there's something I'm actually really

1813
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:16,239
looking forward to talking about is a

1814
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:18,480
preliminary curbside bulky waste model.

1815
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:20,080
And just to clarify, we're going to get

1816
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,520
a lot more information about this next

1817
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,760
month as well. So, if there's questions

1818
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:28,080
that Evan doesn't cover, we will um

1819
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,520
probably cover those next. So,

1820
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,520
>> y I'm going to pretty much hand this off

1821
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,679
to Renee who's been instrumental in

1822
01:18:33,679 --> 01:18:36,159
preparing this information uh and kind

1823
01:18:36,159 --> 01:18:38,239
of building these u preliminary

1824
01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:40,880
conceptual models that that we'll review

1825
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:42,560
uh today. So,

1826
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,520
>> yeah, just like uh board chair Gray had

1827
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,360
mentioned is I'm really excited to talk

1828
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,760
about this because as you all know our

1829
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,840
bulky waste program is our most popular

1830
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,000
program and I think in any city even

1831
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,040
outside of our um our district. Uh it's

1832
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,280
such a what we found out is that's the

1833
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,560
most popular program that a lot of the

1834
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,360
officials even went on.

1835
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,920
Surprising to me. Wow. That's exciting.

1836
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,880
So this is um this is again just a high

1837
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,199
level giving you all just a little bit a

1838
01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:14,640
taste of what we'll discuss more in

1839
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,600
detail next month of how program would

1840
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,000
work more specifically. But just wanted

1841
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,080
to give you some comparisons of

1842
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,120
historical data. um what we're looking

1843
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,199
at current year, what we're projecting

1844
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:28,719
based on some assumptions that we'll

1845
01:19:28,719 --> 01:19:31,360
review high level here. So, as you all

1846
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,719
know, um our scrap program has

1847
01:19:34,719 --> 01:19:36,000
historically been able to service

1848
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,920
between 9 and 10% of the overall

1849
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,800
population that we service every week.

1850
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,920
And so, um and then also our our our

1851
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,760
folks that are on what we call our

1852
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,440
unfulfilled weight list request has been

1853
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,679
trending about 3,000 a year. So, those

1854
01:19:49,679 --> 01:19:51,360
are 3,000 additional folks that have

1855
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,560
told us, you know, they're willing to

1856
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,000
wait on that that cancellation wait

1857
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,360
list. Um, and the great news is this

1858
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,400
year, as Evan pointed out earlier, we're

1859
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,679
already greater than 33% over what we've

1860
01:20:03,679 --> 01:20:05,360
done historically in prior years. So,

1861
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,960
just a few of the changes that some

1862
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,960
great ideas he came in with and

1863
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,880
brainstormed as operations and and just

1864
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,719
really made it a little more successful.

1865
01:20:12,719 --> 01:20:15,760
So that's tren having us trend to be

1866
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,480
about 12% of our of our overall

1867
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:20,159
population. So that's pretty significant

1868
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:21,760
increase just in one year just with the

1869
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:28,480
minor changes we've made. Um so as you probably may know um our current

1870
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:30,320
container based automation system isn't

1871
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,120
the most efficient um and we just really

1872
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:34,960
don't think it's going to be sustainable

1873
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,719
for over time. So that's why we've been

1874
01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:38,159
really digging in and saying what could

1875
01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:40,480
we do in the future?

1876
01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:44,640
Um, so the proposed curbside model and

1877
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,880
that we're looking at providing is we

1878
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,199
could potentially provide the service to

1879
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:51,600
all of our residents up to twice a year.

1880
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,800
Um, now this is based off of a 50%

1881
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,040
setout rate which in talking with all of

1882
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,920
these other cities that's basically what

1883
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:01,840
they've experienced is not everyone's

1884
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,000
going to have all the items to put out

1885
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,000
even at that time. So in the first part

1886
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,800
of the year, our first pass, um maybe

1887
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,760
resident A has some stuff. In the second

1888
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,760
part of the year, maybe resident B has

1889
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,760
some stuff or maybe resident A has stuff

1890
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,520
in both first and second, but resident B

1891
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,600
has nothing. So again, this we were we

1892
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,040
were basing on an assumption of about

1893
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,520
50% and then when we went in was talking

1894
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,199
with these other cities, they said

1895
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:26,560
you're you're right on essentially

1896
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,159
because that's what we've experienced.

1897
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:32,320
Um, so the program would operate with

1898
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,080
three collection crews is what we're

1899
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,560
looking at. So each consisting of two

1900
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,320
full-time employees and one temporary

1901
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,920
employee. The difference between our

1902
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,199
seasonal employees that we have now

1903
01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:43,679
versus a temporary for this projected uh

1904
01:21:43,679 --> 01:21:46,159
program is that in the future we would

1905
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:50,880
be going with a temp company temp agency

1906
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,880
you can say. So, so there's a little

1907
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,560
more

1908
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,320
liability on making sure we're going to

1909
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,719
have those that staff and then also

1910
01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:00,400
we're not meeting them to be CDL

1911
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,719
certified. So, this is someone that's

1912
01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:04,880
going to be more on the ground to going

1913
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,760
ahead inspecting getting the piles ready

1914
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,360
um for the two full-time folks that are

1915
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,360
coming up behind operating those trucks.

1916
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,239
So, that's that's been a focus that

1917
01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:16,239
um the proposed bulk side waste program

1918
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:18,080
would operate from February through

1919
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,920
October. that that's essentially being

1920
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,159
able to add an additional 40 days to the

1921
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:26,320
program um because of this this this way

1922
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,400
that we're doing it versus the container

1923
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,880
reservation system. And then during the

1924
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,480
bulky um bulky way off season, those two

1925
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:36,159
full-time employees will still have work

1926
01:22:36,159 --> 01:22:38,560
to do because they still have the the

1927
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,520
leaf program that will run once uh the

1928
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,600
bulky ways program starts through end of

1929
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:47,750
December and then in January.

1930
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,520
So they're going to have work all year

1931
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,040
round.

1932
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:57,590
I pause there. Any questions so far?

1933
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,000
So by transitioning from this individual

1934
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,560
container reservation program to uh to

1935
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,199
the bulk side or the curb side program,

1936
01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:07,520
we are forecasted to reduce uh obviously

1937
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,600
the uplift truck rentals and container

1938
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,400
maintenance because those would go away.

1939
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,800
um fuel maintenance, seasonal CDL

1940
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,080
drivers in overtime, which I already

1941
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,920
talked about briefly, and administrative

1942
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,880
support right now. Um I don't I'm sure

1943
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,120
everyone's may have some idea of the

1944
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,800
administrative support that the current

1945
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,000
scrap program takes. Um but it takes a

1946
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,320
lot and so this will really help reduce

1947
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,280
on that that cost

1948
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,040
the time to where we can move forward

1949
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,960
with some great wonderful new programs

1950
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,000
for for the district. Um, can mattresses

1951
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,440
go in this program? So, that's still

1952
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:45,840
TBD. Um, so because what we've learned

1953
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,360
from some of the partner cities that

1954
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,000
we've talked to is um I think it was was

1955
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,719
it Scottsdale, they allow like uh the

1956
01:23:52,719 --> 01:23:54,719
single and the full but anything over

1957
01:23:54,719 --> 01:23:57,440
that then they do not allow um because

1958
01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:59,440
you looking at one person versus two or

1959
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:01,520
three that have to be in there. Plus it

1960
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,719
also takes up a lot of space in that um

1961
01:24:04,719 --> 01:24:07,360
in in our rear loader which is the main

1962
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,000
vehicle that we will be using. And we

1963
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,760
also have an additional program called

1964
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,239
the SECS program that the folks can sign

1965
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:16,400
up for that we can come and even though

1966
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,880
it's it has a fee and has a cost but you

1967
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,400
know those are things hopefully people

1968
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,880
aren't overturning their mattresses um

1969
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,199
often

1970
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:26,960
and each their own. I guess

1971
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,920
>> we do see a lot of in the scrap program.

1972
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,239
So there's a high likelihood we will

1973
01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:34,639
accept them if this is initiated at

1974
01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:37,199
least from from the but they can jam

1975
01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:38,800
with the trucks and get wedged if we're

1976
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,440
standing blades create a lot of problems

1977
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,520
with the reload truck we're able to pack

1978
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,360
the materials and I think this year

1979
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,239
alone we had one instance where we were

1980
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:50,719
dropping the scrap containers and we're

1981
01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:52,960
able to load I think it was like 16 or

1982
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,600
more individual containers into one

1983
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,560
reload truck saving transportation

1984
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,800
>> costing from the disposition facility.

1985
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,880
That's a big part of what this looks

1986
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,040
like in

1987
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,239
our

1988
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:08,239
>> GTS

1989
01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:10,239
temporary transportation.

1990
01:25:10,239 --> 01:25:13,520
>> Yeah.

1991
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,199
>> So, so the new model will require some

1992
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:20,080
initial capital to to make the program

1993
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,560
work to we've uh come up with what those

1994
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,440
figures look like.

1995
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:27,520
So the price tag includes this initial

1996
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,679
capital with um three articulating

1997
01:25:29,679 --> 01:25:31,840
grapple loaders for the bulky loading

1998
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,639
itself into one of the rear load trucks

1999
01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:36,800
um per team. And we're also researching

2000
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:40,950
possibly at least to own

2001
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,560
to just see what that looks like

2002
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,159
especially in year one as we're starting

2003
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:46,800
to just roll this out and see okay how

2004
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,880
active are our residential folks going

2005
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,520
to be our projections and assumptions

2006
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,920
right on or are they um way off

2007
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,239
>> so financial highlights I know this has

2008
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:00,080
been the the big piece that everyone's

2009
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,639
want to know um so 2025 the scrap actual

2010
01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:08,719
program cost was was approximately 1.9.

2011
01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:11,440
And then the 2026 projected scrap costs,

2012
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:13,040
we're looking a little bit higher

2013
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,880
because we put a lot more effort into

2014
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,920
this year as you saw a 33% um increase

2015
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,639
in in prior historical services, but we

2016
01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:22,719
had $2.3 million there for this year.

2017
01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:24,000
That's what we're projecting for end of

2018
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,280
the year. And proposed curbside program,

2019
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:28,560
we're looking at an annual operating

2020
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:32,159
cost of approximately 1.68.

2021
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:34,400
So, what that equates to is that our new

2022
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,360
program savings compared to 2025, you're

2023
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,679
looking at about 316,000, which is about

2024
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:43,520
15% 16% savings there. And compared to

2025
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,040
our current year, again, this current

2026
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,120
year is more expensive because we we put

2027
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,600
more more effort into that, looking at

2028
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,400
about $673,000

2029
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,199
savings there, which is uh close to 29%.

2030
01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:57,199
>> So, we'd be able to recoup those capital

2031
01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:58,639
expenses pretty quickly.

2032
01:26:58,639 --> 01:27:01,760
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.

2033
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,639
So here are the numbers right here that

2034
01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:06,400
I had just highlighted and it shows down

2035
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,719
here what the AML savings would be. This

2036
01:27:08,719 --> 01:27:10,719
shows the different cost categories that

2037
01:27:10,719 --> 01:27:13,520
we had segmented into personnel, fleet

2038
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,840
and equipment, administrative. I put the

2039
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,600
little star right here on administrative

2040
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,800
because that's where that um additional

2041
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,880
behind the scenes administrative work.

2042
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,159
you know, we have to look at, you know,

2043
01:27:24,159 --> 01:27:25,440
all the time that, you know, our

2044
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:27,440
customer solutions manager spends on,

2045
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:29,360
you know, getting that that calendar up

2046
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,600
and running and the reservations and the

2047
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,920
daily work. And then, um, Jorge, our

2048
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,120
MIS, um, guy, how he has to scrub files

2049
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,600
daily, Sony and David, all the time that

2050
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:40,719
they're spending making sure we're

2051
01:27:40,719 --> 01:27:42,080
taking care of those customers on

2052
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,920
cancellation weight list, um, our

2053
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,280
communication effort, all of that. So, we've integrated that in our

2054
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:48,719
administrative cost to say, you know

2055
01:27:48,719 --> 01:27:52,639
what, based on their MRP, um, this is

2056
01:27:52,639 --> 01:27:54,880
what we're paying for them to spend all

2057
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,880
of this time on this program versus

2058
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,360
running day operations. So, that's why

2059
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,920
that's added in there.

2060
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,360
And, uh, disposal tipping fees, overhead

2061
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,600
unallocated, that's taken from Tom's

2062
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,239
wonderful finance report.

2063
01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:11,520
I'm going to keep this up here real

2064
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,760
quick. Um, service comparison. So

2065
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,520
housings container service you can see

2066
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,600
right here

2067
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,719
2025 actual 7,457

2068
01:28:20,719 --> 01:28:22,719
which was about 8.6% of our overall

2069
01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:26,639
residents 256 projected that 10,000 a

2070
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:29,120
little over 10,000. So that's that 33%

2071
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,360
increase and that's close to 12% right

2072
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,480
there. And again what we're proposing

2073
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:37,600
we're looking about 74,227

2074
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,760
residents a year. Again, that's based

2075
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,440
off the 50% um sale rate. And I want to

2076
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:45,120
make a note um this is our current

2077
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,320
weekly customer count her and North Soul

2078
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,000
Lake. So we made that adjustment. So

2079
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:51,760
it's not the 865. That's why it's the

2080
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,790
seven.

2081
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,360
Then here's more detail on that initial

2082
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,600
capital

2083
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,790
truck

2084
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:10,550
for the gravel.

2085
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:11,840
I think I've already covered this, but

2086
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,520
the best news is this year service

2087
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:18,400
passing increased of 9 to 10% to 12%.

2088
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,800
And then the new model is designed to to

2089
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,120
service approximately 50% of the

2090
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,149
wellness.

2091
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:28,400
Do do you sell the current containers?

2092
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,800
What um

2093
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,360
you have the containers, right? You'll

2094
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,520
hold those or sell those or what ends up

2095
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:36,800
happening?

2096
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,800
One of the things that we're hoping we

2097
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,320
could potentially bring back is the

2098
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,760
container rent program in the future.

2099
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,600
So, um, as we've learned from our

2100
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,520
customer solutions agents is that we get

2101
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,000
a lot of callins from customers. Hey,

2102
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,840
where's that trailer rental program?

2103
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,199
Hey, what's, you know, can I rent

2104
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:54,880
something? You know, I I know I came in

2105
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,719
on scrap program.

2106
01:29:56,719 --> 01:29:58,560
And so, we're hoping to possibly use

2107
01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:59,920
those. So, that would be some additional

2108
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:02,000
revenue that I haven't even accounted

2109
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:03,440
for in this program that we would

2110
01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:06,320
actually get from

2111
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,159
And we would base that off of full cost

2112
01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:10,480
recovery. We've been kind of underpriced

2113
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:13,360
in previous years. And so as part of

2114
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,960
this as well, we would probably want to

2115
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,800
reinstate the what we've done in the

2116
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,280
past years for the Canyon communities

2117
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,120
where each residents offered kind of a

2118
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,440
year- round reservation that they could

2119
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:26,560
kind of um request at their at their

2120
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,280
convenience, make it a more uh effective

2121
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:30,480
than it was issue. We had to kind of

2122
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:33,120
restrict it to only a one month basis.

2123
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,480
So now it can be year round for them to

2124
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:37,520
request

2125
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,280
>> depending weather conditions. So it was

2126
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:40,639
kind of free and say what we've done in

2127
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:43,199
the past which was I think between March

2128
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:45,920
and September residents could call and

2129
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:47,920
basically get in service for up to like

2130
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,360
one trailer per year longer time frame.

2131
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,400
That's a better support the can as well.

2132
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:54,800
So

2133
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,280
>> and we'd be paying for those. Those

2134
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,440
would be complimentary, one per resident

2135
01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:03,280
as they've done in the past

2136
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:06,400
>> because the scrap program uh currently

2137
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,239
does does not have that capacity for

2138
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:09,360
those.

2139
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:10,639
>> This is good.

2140
01:31:10,639 --> 01:31:12,400
>> We haven't talked about extensive

2141
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,080
detail, but that's kind of what we want

2142
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,080
to do. But then by reinstating the

2143
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,480
feebased container and trailer based

2144
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:22,400
services, we would be able to keep our that team busy throughout the year

2145
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,880
bringing revenues that would would be uh

2146
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,199
based on full cost recovery and then

2147
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:29,600
when there are requests from the canyon

2148
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,320
to provide those services as as a part

2149
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,880
of that. So, a new curbside program, you

2150
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,560
would not accept certain things that we

2151
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,800
accept in our current program such as

2152
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,360
construction and demolition debris, uh

2153
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:46,239
rocks, dirt, sod, brasses, like really super heavy items. Those will not

2154
01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:48,080
be accepted curbside. And so, we can

2155
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,040
offer the speedbased service on top of

2156
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,040
or or for folks that are doing

2157
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:58,470
renovations or remodels.

2158
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:00,320
And we are getting a lot of requests

2159
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,560
this year. We kind of paused the the

2160
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,960
trailer program for the the febased

2161
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,120
rentals and there are still quite a few

2162
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:11,360
people rather following us.

2163
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,600
>> So more to come on that which I think is

2164
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,280
I think the numbers are incredibly

2165
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,400
compelling. So I'm really excited

2166
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,320
>> and there's clearly a ton of challenges.

2167
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:21,760
We're going to be working through those

2168
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,760
and there is like a capacity analysis

2169
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,920
that Rene has next if we can kind of

2170
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,400
just go through that briefly as well.

2171
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,800
Um, so that was kind of the financial

2172
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,000
use and I will say the administrative

2173
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,320
overhead our current STR scrap program

2174
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:41,600
is incredibly intensive takes us um of

2175
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,560
our day-to-day time um for the the

2176
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,480
website reservations, the scrubbing the

2177
01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:48,400
data and the routing identification

2178
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,719
where location is. And our program

2179
01:32:50,719 --> 01:32:53,600
manager that runs the scrap program and

2180
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,679
also oversees our recycling green waste

2181
01:32:55,679 --> 01:32:58,800
program. He's probably 60 to 80% of his

2182
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:05,430
tax spra.

2183
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:08,719
» No, that's okay. So, so this is a auto

2184
01:33:08,719 --> 01:33:12,239
just to where we can adjust it if if we

2185
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:14,080
find out some of our assumptions again

2186
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,600
are

2187
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,040
so here we go if we wanted to say okay

2188
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:20,320
because right now we're targeting about

2189
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,560
3 minutes per home.

2190
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,560
What we learned is is that you know

2191
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,159
basically for home it's it can be

2192
01:33:26,159 --> 01:33:28,400
anywhere between 50 and 60 seconds but

2193
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,960
you're incorporating in the travel time

2194
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,320
to go and you know dump the truck. So

2195
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,000
that's why it brings it up to about 3

2196
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,400
minutes. So essentially at 3 minutes per

2197
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,520
crew per day or three minutes per crew

2198
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,000
per home um we would be able to surplus

2199
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,080
even 432.3

2200
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:47,920
homes over what we already have

2201
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,120
allocated. But if you just put that up

2202
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,520
just a little bit

2203
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,440
negative. So um so that's why we're

2204
01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:57,360
sticking right in about three minutes to

2205
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:03,350
give us a little bit more.

2206
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,189
» Yeah.

2207
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:09,679
Anything else you want to highlight?

2208
01:34:09,679 --> 01:34:11,760
>> Uh no this is just our our operational

2209
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:13,360
capacity model. We've spent a lot of

2210
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,840
time talking to these other cities about

2211
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,520
you know the the crews that they need.

2212
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,280
This is all basically our analysis.

2213
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,040
Originally, I was hoping to only have to

2214
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,440
need two crews, but this has quickly

2215
01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:24,639
demonstrated that we would need three

2216
01:34:24,639 --> 01:34:28,320
crews to to meet the the goal of two two

2217
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,960
annual services per household based on

2218
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,639
that assumption of 50% setup rate. I did

2219
01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:36,320
forget to mention, so this year we're

2220
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,120
renting I think 10 hook roof trucks. We

2221
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,600
also own about I think three or there's

2222
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:42,960
one that's transitioning. So, we have

2223
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,120
four that we own. So, that would already

2224
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,880
be in place. those those um

2225
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,679
that capital to perform and reinstate

2226
01:34:51,679 --> 01:34:54,639
that experience.

2227
01:34:54,639 --> 01:34:56,320
So so more to come on this. This was

2228
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,840
kind of our way to really understand can

2229
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:01,600
this program work? What would the costs

2230
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,000
look like and and can we make this

2231
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,840
happen?

2232
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,840
and and largely instead of having to do

2233
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,480
a online reservation, we would be still

2234
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:12,800
looking at sending out postcards and

2235
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,440
probably identify um different service

2236
01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:18,880
areas and routes. So looking at how many

2237
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,159
homes a crew could service per day, then

2238
01:35:22,159 --> 01:35:23,760
putting that into a week and then having

2239
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,040
the three crews. We're touching I think

2240
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:31,520
9,000 homes every week, but only 50% of

2241
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,480
us setting them out. So 4,500 homes

2242
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:37,280
service. So looking at that would would

2243
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,080
be how we would develop our routing and

2244
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:41,440
we would basically send out postcards

2245
01:35:41,440 --> 01:35:43,360
saying hey this is your time frame don't

2246
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,920
set out your materials until the Sunday

2247
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,639
prior to your week of collection. We

2248
01:35:48,639 --> 01:35:50,159
would maintain that type of service as

2249
01:35:50,159 --> 01:35:51,120
well instead of having to do the

2250
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,520
reservations which is just incredibly

2251
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,639
time inensive. Each area would be so

2252
01:35:56,639 --> 01:35:59,040
split by zones and have those those

2253
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,800
twice annual service time frames that

2254
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,280
would be provided. Larging a postcard

2255
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,520
and other match.

2256
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,920
>> Would you send the postcards twice per

2257
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,239
year or just once per year with all the

2258
01:36:10,239 --> 01:36:12,960
dates on one card?

2259
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:17,440
>> TD pro probably once. So a few cities

2260
01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:18,960
um

2261
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,960
gave us caution to not post the

2262
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,960
collection days on our website.

2263
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:24,880
>> Oh. because there are people that see

2264
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,360
that like contractors go and they'll

2265
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,159
unload those streets. So, we have to be

2266
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:31,920
kind of somewhat incognito as to where

2267
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,920
those locations occur. So, a whole other

2268
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,480
co- compliance item as well. Um, one

2269
01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:38,239
thing that Renee and I talked about very

2270
01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:40,719
recently is that in addition to what was

2271
01:36:40,719 --> 01:36:42,080
shown with the financials, we would

2272
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,560
probably want to rehire and backfill a

2273
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,520
second quality assurance inspector that

2274
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,199
would predominantly focus on this

2275
01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:52,080
program and go ahead of the areas, help

2276
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,920
to support things from a code compliance

2277
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,080
perspective, make sure that these piles

2278
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,080
are in compliance, reach out to

2279
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,000
residents that have materials out there

2280
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,719
and hopefully to alleviate some of that.

2281
01:37:02,719 --> 01:37:04,159
One other item we probably want to add

2282
01:37:04,159 --> 01:37:06,560
to this is to reinstate a full-time

2283
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,040
sheriff's inspector to help manage his

2284
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,600
program and support co compliance and

2285
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:14,080
education issues.

2286
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,320
>> I know that's and I don't have no

2287
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,400
background in all that but as I kind of

2288
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,080
chatted with some city staff around this

2289
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,080
it was mostly the store storm water team

2290
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:23,119
that was

2291
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:24,960
>> like we really would like let's make

2292
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,239
sure we're done well. So that was kind

2293
01:37:28,239 --> 01:37:30,320
of what I was talking about. It would be

2294
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:34,470
something

2295
01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:37,600
» we're about to real city cities to be

2296
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,199
>> and it might just be a communication

2297
01:37:39,199 --> 01:37:41,280
piece so those storm storm water teams

2298
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,080
are aware and can be helpful right in

2299
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,080
those and being aware of those dates.

2300
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,719
>> Yes.

2301
01:37:48,719 --> 01:37:51,360
>> Yeah. Placement of the pile. There's a

2302
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:52,480
lot of things to look at as part of

2303
01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:55,679
this. Sandy City has residents place it

2304
01:37:55,679 --> 01:37:58,880
three feet away from the curb,

2305
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,320
>> which puts things in the middle of the

2306
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:01,920
street, which is also problematic. I'd

2307
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:06,080
like to keep it at or before the curb.

2308
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,440
Then if you have a if you have a

2309
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:08,800
sidewalk right there, you have ADA

2310
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,960
compliance concerns. So there's a lot of

2311
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,600
things to look at. Um, and each city,

2312
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:17,440
each street is is unique with subjects.

2313
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:20,320
So, so more to come on that

2314
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:25,750
refining.

2315
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,320
» Thank you very much. I think this looks

2316
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,040
really promising.

2317
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,440
Um, we'll range for time, but I do think

2318
01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:35,199
we can get through these. I don't know

2319
01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:37,920
what to do. Um,

2320
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:39,520
>> um, yeah, I would like to try at least

2321
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,840
introduce these topics that we could

2322
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:42,639
possibly

2323
01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:44,000
>> Go ahead. Um,

2324
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:45,600
>> are we are we okay if we go a couple

2325
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,760
minutes over? No need to check that out

2326
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,280
really fast. Okay.

2327
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,840
>> So, if we're at 3.4,

2328
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,119
um, I did provide a like two-page agenda

2329
01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:57,280
item summary explaining what we're

2330
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,679
looking at, why we're looking at this.

2331
01:38:59,679 --> 01:39:02,880
Um, and and basically with with Herman's

2332
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,760
now pending withdrawal, um, you know, we

2333
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:11,520
need to re-evaluate and adjust our day of collection. So we are evenly

2334
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,400
distributing our daily routes throughout

2335
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,800
our collective remaining service area.

2336
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,280
So so airmen currently and there's maps

2337
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,520
section on the wall that show the the

2338
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,119
current service and then what we're

2339
01:39:23,119 --> 01:39:31,199
looking at as a tenative service uh come January 1 some during withdrawal is

2340
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:34,639
currently serviced four days a week and Mondays are our dream waste

2341
01:39:34,639 --> 01:39:37,040
collection time frames in that commute.

2342
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,760
So we our our heaviest days are Tuesday

2343
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:45,360
in Haramman uh which we dedicate seven routes and then Wednesday,

2344
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,000
Thursday, Friday is roughly five routes

2345
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,400
per day in Ara proper. Um so we're

2346
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,400
looking at splitting up and evenly

2347
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:53,920
distributing those those routes

2348
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,719
throughout our main service. And so

2349
01:39:56,719 --> 01:39:58,480
another part of it that we're looking at

2350
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:03,760
is our go back collection days. And so

2351
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,760
we're not perfect. Um sometimes we do

2352
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,000
inadvertently miss a street or resident

2353
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,480
collection uh for a service. So our

2354
01:40:10,480 --> 01:40:13,920
current service days are not in the best

2355
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,239
alignment from

2356
01:40:16,239 --> 01:40:20,239
nearby adjacent geographic proximity of

2357
01:40:20,239 --> 01:40:24,560
conducting u return goback if we miss

2358
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,880
the containers uh the next day. So

2359
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,199
currently our go back days are two and

2360
01:40:29,199 --> 01:40:32,960
sometimes three days after uh we learned

2361
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,840
that we missed a street for example. So

2362
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,080
from a customer service and a c customer

2363
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,320
relations perspective

2364
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,159
our team having to tell us hey sorry we

2365
01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:44,080
missed your container we'll be back 3

2366
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:48,320
days is is not the best uh

2367
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:54,159
public relations and public report from our uh inadvertent missed

2368
01:40:54,159 --> 01:40:56,639
collections. And so another part of what

2369
01:40:56,639 --> 01:40:59,199
we're proposing to reroute some of these

2370
01:40:59,199 --> 01:41:03,280
areas is to best facilitate the most

2371
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:06,320
efficient and least expensive goback

2372
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,800
collection schedule which would be

2373
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:10,880
scheduled for the the day subsequent to

2374
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,800
the miss collection. So the very next

2375
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:16,239
day we would support some some gobacks.

2376
01:41:16,239 --> 01:41:19,040
So if you can just stay on that the math

2377
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:20,800
really quickly.

2378
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,440
So, so obviously Haramman southwest will

2379
01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:25,360
still continue to service. That's about

2380
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:30,880
200ish homes. Coverton is about 300

2381
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:32,639
homes and other private communities in

2382
01:41:32,639 --> 01:41:35,040
Heramman uh proper that will continue to

2383
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,800
service is roughly another 300 homes. So

2384
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:42,719
based on our most extensive highest

2385
01:41:42,719 --> 01:41:44,719
number of routes per day in Herman

2386
01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:46,960
currently, we're looking to change

2387
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:50,480
competent service to Tuesdays to offset

2388
01:41:50,480 --> 01:41:52,239
and evenly distribute those daily

2389
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,480
routing leads uh for our service area.

2390
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:56,480
So currently comprehend service

2391
01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:58,560
Wednesday, Southwest is current

2392
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,480
currently serviced on Friday. So

2393
01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:01,679
obviously we want to send and be

2394
01:42:01,679 --> 01:42:03,119
efficient. that we only send one truck

2395
01:42:03,119 --> 01:42:06,320
there or sorry one one crew there per

2396
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,440
week instead of down to so the gobacks

2397
01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:12,400
there will get a little bit um complex

2398
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:16,480
but those communities are uh less

2399
01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:18,400
complicated from infrastructure and I

2400
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,760
presume there's less misolctions the the

2401
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:25,199
big switch here is basically the flip of

2402
01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:26,960
Taylor'sville and then the holiday

2403
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,840
Murray Mil Creek collection days so

2404
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:31,840
currently you'll see on the Um,

2405
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:36,000
Taylorville is shown as orange, which would be reflective of a Tuesday

2406
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,080
collections. Currently, Taylor'sville is

2407
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,880
Thursday. So, the idea is here that if

2408
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,800
we missed any streets or hiccups in

2409
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,679
Magna or Karns on Monday, which is red,

2410
01:42:45,679 --> 01:42:47,600
we would be nearby and adjacent in

2411
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,920
Taylor'sville on Tuesday to complete

2412
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,080
those gobacks to be more efficiently and

2413
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:54,719
effective in in providing a service.

2414
01:42:54,719 --> 01:42:56,639
Same goes for Wednesday. So, Wednesday

2415
01:42:56,639 --> 01:42:58,639
we're in Sandy City in the islands and

2416
01:42:58,639 --> 01:43:00,639
White City, for example, Cwood Heights.

2417
01:43:00,639 --> 01:43:02,400
If we miss a pickup in t in

2418
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:04,880
Taylor'sville from Tuesday, our

2419
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,800
disposition facilities, the recycling

2420
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,880
centers, the the the transportation we

2421
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,360
use is on the way north towards

2422
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,199
Taylor'sville, which is closer in

2423
01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:14,800
proximity for that that next day

2424
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,520
service. And then the the Murray holiday

2425
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,400
going from a from Tuesday to Thursday,

2426
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,400
we're near Heights. So if we miss Combo

2427
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:23,920
Heights streets, for example, on

2428
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,440
Wednesday, we can go back Thursday

2429
01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:27,760
closer that area. And then Mil Creek, so

2430
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:29,520
on so forth. So, the big thing here is

2431
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,159
that immigration is currently serviced

2432
01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:33,920
Wednesdays.

2433
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:35,679
I'm pushing to switch immigration to

2434
01:43:35,679 --> 01:43:37,280
Mondays for a couple reasons. One, if

2435
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:38,719
there's snow up there, we can can push

2436
01:43:38,719 --> 01:43:40,639
it out later in the week. But

2437
01:43:40,639 --> 01:43:48,800
predominantly is to uh meet this go back demand um goal of the next day.

2438
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,520
So if we miss elections in any area of

2439
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,520
Mil Creek Friday, which is the dark

2440
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,679
blue, the folks that are going up to

2441
01:43:55,679 --> 01:44:01,679
immigration and back down the canyon can hit those misp on the the way up or

2442
01:44:01,679 --> 01:44:04,560
the way down from immigration as well.

2443
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,480
>> Um, one thing before I forget that I

2444
01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:07,840
wanted to point out,

2445
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:09,679
>> so

2446
01:44:09,679 --> 01:44:11,280
one other thing, this is preliminary.

2447
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:12,880
One other major thing that may have to

2448
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,600
change as part of this is that we may be

2449
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,360
biting off more than we can chew for

2450
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,440
Mondays.

2451
01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:22,000
Paramin currently is is a green waist

2452
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:23,520
drive on Mondays. We have five green

2453
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,760
waist trucks that go there. We're losing

2454
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:27,920
1,800 counts, but we also still have to

2455
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,560
service Monday's magnet and Karns for

2456
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,119
the green waist collection. So what I'm

2457
01:44:33,119 --> 01:44:34,560
thinking if you can zoom in a little bit

2458
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,080
to the Karns and the Taylorville area.

2459
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,159
Currently, we service a small portion of

2460
01:44:40,159 --> 01:44:43,679
Kurs on uh Thursday, not Tuesday. As you

2461
01:44:43,679 --> 01:44:45,280
can see that municipality boundary line

2462
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,520
there. There's a high likelihood, and

2463
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,360
Dave and I are looking at this, that

2464
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,280
we'll need to cut off another sliver of

2465
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,719
curves and add it to Tuesday service,

2466
01:44:54,719 --> 01:44:56,639
which would become orange as part of

2467
01:44:56,639 --> 01:45:01,760
this. And so any changes would be uh

2468
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,119
communicated through a very robust

2469
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:05,920
education outreach program, postcards,

2470
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,520
probably even u container uh flyers for

2471
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,600
example. Um but we're trying to evenly

2472
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:13,440
distribute this this workload of of all

2473
01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:16,000
these areas if herin withdrawal does

2474
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,800
take effect end of October into November

2475
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,360
those changes will take effect November

2476
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,719
one. or as the remaining areas we need

2477
01:45:24,719 --> 01:45:26,400
we want time to plan for this remaining

2478
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:28,880
areas will take effect presumably

2479
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,360
January of 2027 giving us more time for

2480
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,639
that so southwest and copper

2481
01:45:34,639 --> 01:45:36,000
this would be more immediate upon

2482
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,040
Harman's withdrawal and then uh the

2483
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,719
other areas that we would switch we're

2484
01:45:40,719 --> 01:45:42,560
still fine-tuning

2485
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:48,629
would be transition uh January the first

2486
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:50,320
question

2487
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:54,560
>> you keep and next day go back.

2488
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,520
So if my Wednesday talk about Thursday

2489
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,320
go back, okay, the problem I see with

2490
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:01,920
that is most people are going to be

2491
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,360
getting a home after you've closed

2492
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:08,400
Wednesday for my day. How do I notify

2493
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,800
you to get a, you know, a Thursday

2494
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,040
goback the very next morning, right?

2495
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:17,600
>> How fast can you mobilize that go back?

2496
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:22,400
>> That's a great question. Um and and I'll kind of maybe um

2497
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,080
the firmware here with our customers

2498
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:26,159
agency team. They get a call, they're

2499
01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:27,600
the go back schedule. So this would be

2500
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,600
mostly probably the the afternoon of

2501
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,520
next day. If you can scroll to the next

2502
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,199
page as we talk about this, that'd be

2503
01:46:33,199 --> 01:46:35,040
super helpful because I'm not really

2504
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,119
clear how we would do next day service

2505
01:46:37,119 --> 01:46:39,199
and immigration, which I imagine there

2506
01:46:39,199 --> 01:46:41,520
aren't probably a lot of misolctions.

2507
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,840
Um and same for the southwest corridor

2508
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,080
as well. But

2509
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,320
your question is very valid and logical

2510
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,560
and something that that we you know

2511
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:53,520
would strive to to meet that demand for

2512
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,679
that next day customer service. But if

2513
01:46:55,679 --> 01:46:57,679
Fern can speak towards like when how do

2514
01:46:57,679 --> 01:47:00,080
we get calls on usually

2515
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,000
>> we generally like we get anything after

2516
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:03,520
the office is closed. That's one of the

2517
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,360
first things um our customer service

2518
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:06,560
team does in the morning. We have folks

2519
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:08,239
that get here at 7 and 7:30 in the

2520
01:47:08,239 --> 01:47:10,000
morning. So they listen to voicemails.

2521
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:11,920
They they review all of the emails and

2522
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,719
also the chats. And so while we we go

2523
01:47:14,719 --> 01:47:18,560
ahead and post the um next goats excuse

2524
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,639
me before we leave for everything that

2525
01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:23,760
we've had we generally um we get

2526
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,000
notified by 11 a.m. we can generally get

2527
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,159
that.

2528
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:30,080
>> So that's now going to be on the

2529
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,239
customer to make sure that they have

2530
01:47:32,239 --> 01:47:34,320
responded before

2531
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:37,679
>> 11 a.m. the next day

2532
01:47:37,679 --> 01:47:39,600
assuming they have time.

2533
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,760
>> Right. Yeah. No, I'm just just trying to

2534
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,280
make sure that we're not being overly

2535
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:46,159
ambitious and not giving people adequate

2536
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:47,840
time to say, "Oh, you know, I just

2537
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:49,440
realized my trash can never got picked

2538
01:47:49,440 --> 01:47:52,239
up." And it's now lunchtime when I have

2539
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:54,400
time to call.

2540
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,400
Um, and maybe I should get somebody on

2541
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:57,840
the phone because not like I'm the kind

2542
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,119
of person I don't leave messages and

2543
01:47:59,119 --> 01:48:00,880
things like that, too, because I just

2544
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,360
assume they're lost in the either. Uh,

2545
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,280
so that that's my only concern with

2546
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,400
doing it like the very next day, but I

2547
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,679
do like the plan in general. Otherwise,

2548
01:48:11,679 --> 01:48:13,600
>> what would happen if they did it in the

2549
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,040
afternoon? Would they need to wait till

2550
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:18,080
the next or you would you would kind of

2551
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,000
base that off of like if that was

2552
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,760
happening consistently or you would do

2553
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:22,400
oneoffs?

2554
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:24,239
>> I think I mean if it started happening

2555
01:48:24,239 --> 01:48:27,440
consistently and it's a larger volume

2556
01:48:27,440 --> 01:48:29,600
back and say okay does this make sense,

2557
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:33,280
right? Um, you know, however, thankfully

2558
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:35,520
like our supervisors or our managers, if

2559
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,239
they're not on board, they can sometimes

2560
01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:41,199
swing swing out. I know, um, David a lot

2561
01:48:41,199 --> 01:48:42,560
of, you know, hey, we've got this

2562
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,960
emergency go that needs to happen. Who's

2563
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,119
in the area? Sometimes somebody's in the

2564
01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:50,000
area already. So the girls talk to um we

2565
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:51,199
say the girls because they are the

2566
01:48:51,199 --> 01:48:53,440
ladies that are bunch

2567
01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:58,880
and uh so so they they um they're on the radio you know constantly

2568
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:00,480
with our operations team and and

2569
01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:02,800
sometimes the leads are doing training

2570
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:04,239
you know and so they're in that area. So

2571
01:49:04,239 --> 01:49:05,600
we do have this situation because if

2572
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,719
it's not a lot of folks and if it's not

2573
01:49:08,719 --> 01:49:11,520
a consistent item

2574
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,639
>> what's the like currently when do you

2575
01:49:14,639 --> 01:49:17,520
get the most calls for for is it usually

2576
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,280
like the evening and the like when do

2577
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,119
you usually get those calls too? We

2578
01:49:21,119 --> 01:49:22,560
actually get them a lot in the early

2579
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,840
afternoon the on the day of service. And

2580
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,320
it's interesting because because um our

2581
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,320
customer solutions team is on the radio

2582
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:33,440
often saying are we hit that route yet?

2583
01:49:33,440 --> 01:49:36,000
Because sometimes that's what happens

2584
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,239
and um the drivers will let us know

2585
01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:40,080
we're not we haven't been there. And and

2586
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:41,440
thankfully we're able to find some of

2587
01:49:41,440 --> 01:49:44,239
those goats soon like right after

2588
01:49:44,239 --> 01:49:51,830
because we do have other folks on

2589
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:53,280
I think we we want to look at a

2590
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,880
secondary goback schedule. So this is

2591
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,280
the most simplistic way that we can try

2592
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:00,960
to at least enhance this for the time

2593
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:04,239
being. Long-term goals is to get

2594
01:50:04,239 --> 01:50:06,080
utilization of technology and routing

2595
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,840
software. And typically in a collection

2596
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,119
u operation such as ours, each city

2597
01:50:13,119 --> 01:50:15,600
would be broken up into multiple days of

2598
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:17,840
collections throughout the work week. So

2599
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:19,119
you're always like we we would

2600
01:50:19,119 --> 01:50:21,440
presumably have a team that services

2601
01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:23,280
just Taylor'sville and they have

2602
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:24,800
different routes on Mondays, Tuesdays,

2603
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,560
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and then

2604
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,199
we're always nearby for for performing

2605
01:50:29,199 --> 01:50:31,280
those go back collections as well and

2606
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,760
after service pickups too. So trying to

2607
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,600
take that on right now would be uh

2608
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,159
incredibly overwhelming and a lot of

2609
01:50:38,159 --> 01:50:40,800
work to evaluate. uh so but in in future

2610
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:42,960
years our goal will be to identify and

2611
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:44,800
implement that routing software that

2612
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,719
helps to actually build those routes and

2613
01:50:46,719 --> 01:50:49,360
create that even distribution throughout

2614
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,400
those. This is the more immediate

2615
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,960
most simplistic way that we look to to

2616
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:58,320
make these these adjustments to better

2617
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,199
service uh

2618
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:02,960
spread throughout the the week but also

2619
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:06,159
to to better provide customer service to

2620
01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:09,360
our customers at this point. So, um,

2621
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:10,719
more more to come on this. This is

2622
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:12,080
preliminary. We need just some fine

2623
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:13,840
tuning. Want to see if there's any

2624
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:17,040
feedback or overarching concerns, uh,

2625
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:21,119
about this, um, as it's

2626
01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:23,679
>> makes a lot of sense. I'm just curious

2627
01:51:23,679 --> 01:51:26,000
when you do route planning and stuff

2628
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:34,470
like that for this and for the program.

2629
01:51:34,480 --> 01:51:38,159
you take into account density of

2630
01:51:38,159 --> 01:51:41,040
residential areas. So in other words,

2631
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,360
mining can go really fast from house to

2632
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:47,599
house and 10 minutes down the street.

2633
01:51:47,599 --> 01:51:48,560
Yeah. When you're talking the difference

2634
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,800
between 3 minutes and 3 and a/4 minutes

2635
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,199
making the making it work or not work,

2636
01:51:53,199 --> 01:51:53,679
>> right?

2637
01:51:53,679 --> 01:51:56,480
>> You know, does that play into it

2638
01:51:56,480 --> 01:51:58,000
>> to to a degree? Yes.

2639
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,239
>> Have to at some

2640
01:52:00,239 --> 01:52:03,440
>> Yes. Absolutely. Because in immigration,

2641
01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:04,960
you know, for example, we're we're

2642
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:06,719
driving, you know, thousands of feet

2643
01:52:06,719 --> 01:52:08,080
between households,

2644
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:09,520
>> right? So that density of collection

2645
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,520
point is is certainly the 3 minutes for

2646
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:13,599
the bulky is kind of a generalized

2647
01:52:13,599 --> 01:52:15,360
assumption

2648
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,920
average over the entirety of service

2649
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,000
area. But absolutely our our current

2650
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:23,040
routes that each driver has like magnets

2651
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,040
split up into probably a dozen routes

2652
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:28,159
that we have trash going. It's based on

2653
01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:30,880
number of parcels and we track those

2654
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:36,960
completion times. We have a team that is led through a lead operator help make

2655
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,599
sure that that team is is completed and

2656
01:52:39,599 --> 01:52:41,199
that gives us feedback as to we can

2657
01:52:41,199 --> 01:52:49,589
adjust those those routes on.

2658
01:52:49,599 --> 01:52:52,800
» Any other questions or concerns about

2659
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:56,400
that these changes?

2660
01:52:56,400 --> 01:53:00,560
>> All right. Um on 3.5 considerations to

2661
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:02,560
suspend subscription based curbside

2662
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,159
green waste collection service offerings

2663
01:53:04,159 --> 01:53:06,159
in the southwest geographic region of

2664
01:53:06,159 --> 01:53:07,920
Salt Lake County due to significant call

2665
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,840
distances

2666
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:12,080
participation outside of business.

2667
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:13,440
>> Thank you. So I can probably be quite

2668
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:15,119
brief on this. I talked with board

2669
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:17,920
member Stitzer from Copperton uh and

2670
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,639
board member string stringum from Sully

2671
01:53:20,639 --> 01:53:23,199
County. Um

2672
01:53:23,199 --> 01:53:25,199
but that doesn't forego the the need to

2673
01:53:25,199 --> 01:53:27,760
discuss this as well. So currently we

2674
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:31,119
are servicing about 1,800 green waste

2675
01:53:31,119 --> 01:53:34,719
subscription services in Herman proper.

2676
01:53:34,719 --> 01:53:36,880
Outside of Harman and proper we have

2677
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,440
been tracking number of subscriptions in

2678
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:41,840
the southwest unincorporated area which

2679
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,840
again is about 200 homes and then

2680
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:46,480
Copperton uh roughly closer to 300

2681
01:53:46,480 --> 01:53:49,440
homes. of those service areas. Given how

2682
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:52,320
far it is outside of our collective uh

2683
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,880
combined service area, we currently only

2684
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,800
have 11 Green Waste can subscribers. The

2685
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:00,320
private areas that will continue to

2686
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:03,040
service inherently proper is only about

2687
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,280
roughly 10 additional Greenway

2688
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:08,239
subscriptions. And so sending a separate

2689
01:54:08,239 --> 01:54:11,119
truck out there for

2690
01:54:11,119 --> 01:54:14,639
less than than 30 overall subscriptions

2691
01:54:14,639 --> 01:54:16,560
does seem to make a lot of sense from an

2692
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:18,960
efficiency and operation standpoint.

2693
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:20,719
These materials used to be accepted as

2694
01:54:20,719 --> 01:54:22,719
the Trans Jordan landfill, which is in a

2695
01:54:22,719 --> 01:54:25,599
similar vicinity, but they suspended

2696
01:54:25,599 --> 01:54:27,679
permanently their green waste composting

2697
01:54:27,679 --> 01:54:30,400
program. So we have continued even with

2698
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:33,199
Trans Jordan closing to currently haul

2699
01:54:33,199 --> 01:54:36,320
even all the 1800 Herman Greenways

2700
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,560
all the way north of Magna essentially

2701
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,400
to the Salt Lake Valley composting

2702
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:43,119
facility. So significant hall distance.

2703
01:54:43,119 --> 01:54:45,119
And so basically

2704
01:54:45,119 --> 01:54:47,840
what we're recommending is that we of

2705
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:50,000
those 11 subscribers in Copper

2706
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,560
Southwest, we cancel those subscriptions

2707
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,960
after Herman's withdrawal is complete.

2708
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,360
Uh and we no longer offer the that green

2709
01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:00,239
waste program specifically in Southwest

2710
01:55:00,239 --> 01:55:02,960
Uncorporated or or in the town of

2711
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,520
Copperton until perhaps there's a time

2712
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,119
period where we can get significant

2713
01:55:07,119 --> 01:55:09,679
interest and demand to reinstate that.

2714
01:55:09,679 --> 01:55:11,760
So just looking at from an efficiency,

2715
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:15,119
financial cost and operational

2716
01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:18,000
um sensibility perspective, you know,

2717
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:19,280
based on what we're seeing with those

2718
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:21,440
subscriptions, uh does it make sense to

2719
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,360
continue to provide that subscription

2720
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,159
based optional add-on service?

2721
01:55:26,159 --> 01:55:27,920
>> That just makes sense to me. It sounds

2722
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:29,760
like we've talked to the people whose

2723
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,719
communities are affected so and it makes

2724
01:55:32,719 --> 01:55:36,390
sense to them.

2725
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,480
» Board member Stitzer had um a couple

2726
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,800
reservations. as we talk through this um

2727
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,840
she may be on at this point as well. Um

2728
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,320
because we we have kind of restricted to

2729
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:49,840
subscription services um since prior to

2730
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:53,040
my tenure uh in this general area but

2731
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,080
also at the same time have not seen to

2732
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,239
my understanding a lot of like interest

2733
01:55:58,239 --> 01:56:01,119
nor requests to add those services for

2734
01:56:01,119 --> 01:56:04,960
Copperton and South Incorporated this.

2735
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:08,880
So um it's a challenging item and and

2736
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:10,400
you know a lot of the other cities that

2737
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:13,199
are um which is way different than what

2738
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:16,800
we're members of Trans Jordan. Um to my

2739
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,400
understanding those green waste

2740
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:20,159
collection services are now being

2741
01:56:20,159 --> 01:56:22,080
recovered through their composting.

2742
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:23,840
They're just being used in some cases as

2743
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,400
additional refues that's being buried at

2744
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:28,800
the landfill. It's not from birth to

2745
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,800
birth. So conversely, wolfer has

2746
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:32,560
continued to haul immature all the way

2747
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:36,000
north to the solid valley length

2748
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:37,520
based on trans Jordan that they

2749
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:40,239
suspended their green rice program

2750
01:56:40,239 --> 01:56:41,520
several years ago.

2751
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:43,599
>> So you're saying is other organizations

2752
01:56:43,599 --> 01:56:45,360
are picking up green rice separately but

2753
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:48,480
then disposing of it in the landfill.

2754
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,159
>> I'm not saying that. I'm just saying

2755
01:56:50,159 --> 01:56:51,599
mostly those programs have been

2756
01:56:51,599 --> 01:56:52,639
suspended.

2757
01:56:52,639 --> 01:56:55,280
>> Oh, correct. And then to my

2758
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:56,960
understanding, the city of West Jordan

2759
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,280
has now what's called their green can

2760
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:01,199
change to a seasonal can.

2761
01:57:01,199 --> 01:57:02,400
>> It's just another trash can,

2762
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,080
>> but it's basically Yeah, basically a

2763
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:04,960
secondary trash can.

2764
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:06,400
>> It's another trash can, but it's only

2765
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:08,400
picked up until April.

2766
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:09,840
>> Okay. Okay,

2767
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:11,920
>> which is similar ours our green waist

2768
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,400
program runs roughly March through mid

2769
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:15,360
December,

2770
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,360
>> but we have and continue to and will

2771
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:20,000
continue to haul those materials to the

2772
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:21,599
composting facility that's that's being

2773
01:57:21,599 --> 01:57:24,800
operated by Salt Lake County uh which is

2774
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:26,560
in the extreme northwest portion of the

2775
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,440
county of the Salt Lake Valley landfill

2776
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:35,350
and adjacent to that is the

2777
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:41,750
» any concerns about that change for is

2778
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:43,840
» so predominantly I was just hoping for

2779
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:47,679
support from this body to um to take

2780
01:57:47,679 --> 01:57:49,760
that approach. I don't think it's a

2781
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,080
formal motion. So subscription based

2782
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:55,280
service some cases we don't offer uh

2783
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,040
curbside glass is not offered currently

2784
01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:58,960
in that area but the county as well

2785
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:02,239
because of distance and density and

2786
01:58:02,239 --> 01:58:03,599
demand

2787
01:58:03,599 --> 01:58:04,800
>> other than plan but do you know where

2788
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:06,639
the tipping point is to how many

2789
01:58:06,639 --> 01:58:08,960
subscribers

2790
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:10,880
required

2791
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,280
>> if there was significant interest I

2792
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:17,440
would hope minimum we haven't done the full analysis from efficiency

2793
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:20,239
standpoint I would hope a minimum 50 but

2794
01:58:20,239 --> 01:58:22,000
hopefully I Ideally, it would be like

2795
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:30,070
100 100 plus addressing customers.

2796
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:33,040
I love that. Unless anyone has any

2797
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:34,880
concerns that they're not voicing, I

2798
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:39,350
think we're supportive.

2799
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:42,560
All right. Um,

2800
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:44,239
that's direction. Yes.

2801
01:58:44,239 --> 01:58:48,000
>> Okay. All right. Item 3.6 with Helen.

2802
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,760
modifications to monthly billing due to

2803
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:51,520
dates to avoid billing discrepancies for

2804
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:52,960
autos.

2805
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:55,119
>> Right. Uh we when we went to monthly

2806
01:58:55,119 --> 01:58:57,599
billing we made the due date the last

2807
01:58:57,599 --> 01:59:00,239
day of the month that is also the day of

2808
01:59:00,239 --> 01:59:03,920
our real date. Um

2809
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:07,119
that has caused a problem between our

2810
01:59:07,119 --> 01:59:11,040
software the sell software building

2811
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:14,719
payment vendor for pay um that created a

2812
01:59:14,719 --> 01:59:16,880
problem for auto pay.

2813
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:18,960
Um, and so the best way we could

2814
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,119
determine to correct this problem is to

2815
01:59:21,119 --> 01:59:22,960
change the due date. So we moved it back

2816
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:26,080
to the 27th of every month. reason we

2817
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:28,560
chose that one last 10th of February um

2818
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,360
you know over the coming month the month

2819
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:32,400
and

2820
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:35,199
>> it's I think that that will this last

2821
01:59:35,199 --> 01:59:36,480
bill was the first one that we did that

2822
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:37,760
with and I do think this is going to

2823
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:41,990
solve

2824
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:43,840
» specifically has to do with with

2825
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:45,599
integration constraints between our

2826
01:59:45,599 --> 01:59:48,159
various financial and billing systems

2827
01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:51,199
and form pay um in the future we think

2828
01:59:51,199 --> 01:59:55,040
can gradually enhance that uh we make

2829
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:57,920
the customer get their bills

2830
01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:59,760
change. We've looked at our policy

2831
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:01,679
manual. There's nothing that the sport

2832
02:00:01,679 --> 02:00:04,800
has adopted for a specific for for

2833
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:08,239
billing um due dates. So, um we just

2834
02:00:08,239 --> 02:00:09,679
wanted to provide that as as

2835
02:00:09,679 --> 02:00:12,239
information. uh didn't seem to think

2836
02:00:12,239 --> 02:00:14,560
there was any sort of formal motion

2837
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,080
needed for this, but it is something

2838
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:19,119
that was very recently implemented um to

2839
02:00:19,119 --> 02:00:21,520
avoid these discrepancies and people

2840
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:22,880
having a lot of confusion when we have

2841
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:29,030
one for

2842
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:31,840
all. Um are there is there any other

2843
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,599
board of business that members of the

2844
02:00:33,599 --> 02:00:39,189
board need to discuss?

2845
02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:41,840
See on the agenda subsequent items for

2846
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:43,119
board meetings. I'll just let you look

2847
02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:46,239
at that items at your leisure. Um I will

2848
02:00:46,239 --> 02:00:48,400
make a motion to Sure.

2849
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:49,520
>> So move

2850
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:50,480
>> second.

2851
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:53,990
>> All in favor?

2852
02:00:54,000 --> 02:01:05,030
» I

2853
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:09,030
kind of

2854
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:12,480
Yeah. Um, are you hearing from people

2855
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:20,310
that they want less bins at the same

2856
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:22,239
room?

2857
02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:24,719
>> Yeah, that would be I can certainly help

2858
02:01:24,719 --> 02:01:27,040
to donate those.

2859
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:27,840
It's largely

2860
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:45,830
>> Justin.

2861
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:48,239
» Yeah, the recycles are like it's the

2862
02:01:48,239 --> 02:01:50,400
trash ones. There's just so many

2863
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:59,189
available

2864
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:02,480
» or trash to recycle.

2865
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:07,270
>> We can certainly discuss that.

2866
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:10,080
My husband wanted me to ask about his

2867
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:12,239
price of a trash

2868
02:02:12,239 --> 02:02:35,030
I told him don't want to do it.

2869
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:38,719
» So I'd rather just have this for myself.

2870
02:02:38,719 --> 02:02:41,440
>> Yeah.