1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,600 Good 2 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:11,680 morning. I saw that I was allowed to speak, but you're actually on mute so I couldn't hear you. 3 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:43,530 Yes, I can. Now, Christine. Can you hear us now, Andrew? Yes, I can. Okay, wait, then first I was to say that we go into the data sharing IGA and you're going to show your face or not. I just have, yes. 4 00:02:48,090 --> 00:02:48,890 Then we go. 5 00:02:48,890 --> 00:02:51,270 So, there's the Andrew, we know and love. 6 00:02:52,490 --> 00:02:57,770 Hi there. My name is Andrew Burk, I'm the IS Director. I'm here to talk about the 7 00:02:58,210 --> 00:03:04,250 data sharing intergovernmental agreement between Wasco County, Noracore, and City of the 8 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:11,170 Dalles. The purpose of this agreement is we've been working on a new computer-aided dispatch 9 00:03:11,170 --> 00:03:28,610 and records management system for about the last year now, and we are in the process of setting up an interface between the jail records management system and our records management system that we're building through Prophenix. 10 00:03:29,250 --> 00:03:36,630 And the purpose of this is to enable the communication of data between those two systems. 11 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:41,890 And so really that's the purpose behind the intergovernmental agreement that you see before us before you. 12 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:53,690 I've outlined this essentially in the memo and so really we're just here to hopefully move this forward and enable us to create this interface. 13 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:59,050 All right, thanks Andrew. Questions for Andrew of this item? 14 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,320 I don't have a comment, I think this is a fantastic, there's going to be so much better 15 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,720 in terms of efficiency operation between, it's going to save us, it's one of those we put 16 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,020 some money out, it's going to save a huge amount of money down the road, highly approved. 17 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:26,720 Just one question or comment, I think I know the answer to, but it doesn't involve OSP 18 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:34,880 who also uses at least NORCOR, but OSP has their own dispatch, OSP has their own records 19 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,520 management. 20 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:36,300 I assume. 21 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:37,280 Is that correct? 22 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,000 Correct. 23 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,860 That was the only thing that I saw that I had questions about is whether they needed 24 00:04:43,860 --> 00:04:46,460 to be involved, but I get why they're not. 25 00:04:46,460 --> 00:04:55,640 So, and in the IGA talks, there's a section that talks about costs, but then there's, 26 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:04,380 there's basically, it doesn't list any specific costs and just talks about how costs are just 27 00:05:04,380 --> 00:05:10,560 part of the system that cat RMS anyway, so this doesn't change anything cost-wise, is that correct? 28 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:18,460 Yeah, it's a part of the Profenix project that you guys reviewed a while back. 29 00:05:19,020 --> 00:05:21,980 There may be some additional costs with EIS. 30 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:24,960 We're still in order to engage in those discussions. 31 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,040 We have to have this agreement in place though. 32 00:05:27,740 --> 00:05:37,960 At some point, after another dozen or more of these contracts and ITAs and all this with CAD RMS, 33 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,780 I'll start to catch on and understand everything about it. 34 00:05:43,060 --> 00:05:44,040 That's all I have, Chair. 35 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,660 Well, I just one more comment if I may. 36 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,900 Then as I noticed, it says that the county will pay the initial cost 37 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:52,200 and then split it up afterwards. 38 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,320 That's very generous of us. 39 00:05:57,280 --> 00:05:57,580 We're nice. 40 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:58,300 We are. 41 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:00,560 All right. 42 00:06:00,780 --> 00:06:01,180 Thanks, Andrew. 43 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,160 Is this mostly Siege's information that's kind of circulating in this? 44 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:07,260 Yes, it is. 45 00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:12,580 Okay. All right. Very good. Okay. I have no other questions. Does somebody have a motion? 46 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,800 I could figure out where my motions are here. I would do it, but 47 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,680 that's underneath this. We'll get all this squared away after a while. 48 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:31,160 I move to approve the data sharing of the government agreement, pursuant to R.S. Chapter 190 49 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,680 among Wasco County, acting through the Wasco County Sheriff's Office, and Wasco County Information Services. 50 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Northern Oregon Corrections, NORCOR, and the City of the Dallas, acting through the 51 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,500 Dallas Police Department, and authorize the board chair to sign all related documentation. 52 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:47,080 I second the motion. 53 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,160 We have motion. 54 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:48,540 Second. 55 00:06:48,860 --> 00:06:50,520 Any discussion on the motion? 56 00:06:51,740 --> 00:06:52,660 Here, and I know it was a favor. 57 00:06:52,820 --> 00:06:53,160 Say aye. 58 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:53,640 Aye. 59 00:06:54,580 --> 00:06:55,100 Chair votes, yes. 60 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:55,700 Unanimous. 61 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:56,080 Okay. 62 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:56,540 Very good. 63 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:57,860 You are still up, Andrew. 64 00:06:58,100 --> 00:06:58,500 I think. 65 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Third Street Security and Access Control. 66 00:07:01,180 --> 00:07:01,560 Upgrade. 67 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:02,860 Yeah. 68 00:07:02,980 --> 00:07:03,280 Thank you. 69 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:10,180 So the other item you have before you, we've been working on really kind of building out and 70 00:07:10,180 --> 00:07:15,940 enhancing security and access controls within the third street building over the past year, 71 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:22,440 a couple years actually. Part of that has been really also trying to identify how the buildings 72 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:29,500 being used and allowing a little bit of time to pass in order to make informed and good decisions 73 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:36,560 towards how we enhance the security and so that's this is really the culmination of a number of 74 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:42,480 years of analysis to see how the building is getting used and then also to put in place some 75 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:49,180 security measures that that we don't currently have because there are some potential changes in 76 00:07:49,180 --> 00:07:57,280 the building as well in terms of renovations. We did avoid certain doors etc to help ensure we're 77 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:03,220 duplicating costs down the road as well and so we had a number of people review the list of 78 00:08:03,220 --> 00:08:10,420 doors that we're looking to add. That also requires a enhancement or an upgrade within our core 79 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:20,300 really where we put all of our controller electronics within the system. We have to build some 80 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:26,080 of that out as well in order to accommodate the number of doors that we need to, that we need to. 81 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,940 So that's really what this is about. 82 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:33,140 It also enables us the ability to set up some lockdown procedures and the event that 83 00:08:33,140 --> 00:08:41,340 that is necessary, along with enabling some paths through mechanisms for like buzzing 84 00:08:41,340 --> 00:08:42,120 people in, etc. 85 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,840 All right. 86 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,380 Thanks, Andrew. 87 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:47,660 Questions for Andrew? 88 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,280 Go ahead. 89 00:08:51,420 --> 00:08:56,060 Andrew, first of all, I appreciate the comment in the memo that you just mentioned. 90 00:08:56,060 --> 00:09:06,440 made in your covering the memo about not including things that are highly likely or planned 91 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:15,920 on being changed in the future. The question I would have is how, so is there a general 92 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,560 sense of how many doors or how much additional security upgrade there's going to be after 93 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:27,260 this upgrade goes or is that just kind of a loaded question because it's kind of a moving 94 00:09:27,260 --> 00:09:34,180 target? A little bit of a moving target, but I don't suspect that it's too many. We're 95 00:09:34,180 --> 00:09:40,200 really trying to hit the high points with this project upgrade here. And then, you know, 96 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:47,340 as either space gets adjusted or becomes available or we're varying various things within the building, 97 00:09:47,340 --> 00:09:49,800 and then we'll have one or two doors 98 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,740 in each of those locations to add to. 99 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,220 I think the key thing here is the controller upgrades. 100 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,060 That's kind of the core upgrade that's needed. 101 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,060 And then that enables us to fairly easily 102 00:10:05,060 --> 00:10:10,420 add other doors to the system as we expand. 103 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:12,280 Yeah. 104 00:10:13,860 --> 00:10:16,760 Now that's good that clearly answers my question. 105 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,460 I appreciate that. 106 00:10:17,740 --> 00:10:25,620 And then I assume I didn't look through so I should assume it might be in here I'm guessing 107 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:34,180 was this kind of a source kind of a thing or is it something that somebody we've been 108 00:10:34,180 --> 00:10:37,380 working with or did this go out to bid at some point? 109 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:38,200 Yeah. 110 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:46,160 So cook solutions is they've installed and maintained the system themselves. 111 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:54,680 And so they're really the source that we're purchasing from in order to, they know the 112 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:58,560 system, the continuity of the system, they understand the technicals, they did all the 113 00:10:58,560 --> 00:10:59,280 programming, etc. 114 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:06,360 And so it would be very difficult to bring another vendor in to do all of that stuff. 115 00:11:06,860 --> 00:11:07,980 And more expensive I assume. 116 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:09,300 Yes. 117 00:11:09,740 --> 00:11:15,860 Yeah, we also have been able to, there's a number of things we're able to do in-house because 118 00:11:15,860 --> 00:11:19,700 as we've over the years developed that relationship. 119 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:21,700 Awesome, thank you. 120 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:23,040 That's all the questions I have right now, sure. 121 00:11:23,380 --> 00:11:24,000 Okay, Roger. 122 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:27,200 Yeah, I had mentioned procurement on it. 123 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,720 What's the timeline for getting that stuff in 124 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,240 or do we have any supply chain problems in that department? 125 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,300 We haven't to date and it's been, 126 00:11:36,380 --> 00:11:39,820 it's usually been a matter of four to six weeks. 127 00:11:39,860 --> 00:11:42,100 I think if memory serves me right, 128 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,420 by the time we're able to get somebody scheduled 129 00:11:44,420 --> 00:11:46,300 and actually doing the work. 130 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Reality is, once we approve this, 131 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,280 then we can begin running wires, 132 00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:53,440 procure and run wires fairly quickly, 133 00:11:53,660 --> 00:11:55,040 and then from there, 134 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,760 we'll get the vendor scheduled 135 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,820 to install the doors and controllers. 136 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:02,460 Thank you. 137 00:12:04,460 --> 00:12:04,960 Anything else? 138 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:05,680 That's it. 139 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Okay. 140 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:07,940 A couple of questions. 141 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:10,960 You mentioned lockdown, Andrew, 142 00:12:11,260 --> 00:12:12,600 and I'm just curious like, 143 00:12:12,980 --> 00:12:15,140 so it sounds like if there was an event, 144 00:12:15,140 --> 00:12:19,660 And somehow some would be able to push a button or do something that would basically lock 145 00:12:19,660 --> 00:12:20,740 all the outside doors. 146 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:21,840 Correct. 147 00:12:22,060 --> 00:12:30,560 There's two buttons that, two physical buttons that this allows us to do it use. 148 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:37,340 And then there's also the ability to program, soft program into the system, so yes. 149 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,760 And we don't have that currently. 150 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,840 No, it's not built out in the same way. 151 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,720 Okay. All right. And then you mentioned this part of this is going to be replacing the controller. 152 00:12:52,400 --> 00:13:00,520 And I'm curious like, is the controller that we have now, like, kind of maxed out or something in terms of numbers of doors or this is just an upgraded controller? 153 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:16,860 It adds, so this is one of those situations and technology where we are limited by physical space, so each controller can only handle so many doors and we have to be able to add additional controllers in order to handle the doors. 154 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:31,080 So this our current system is able to handle what we have now we just have to add additional controllers and part of that is we have to put a bigger cabinet for those electronic controllers to sit in. 155 00:13:31,660 --> 00:13:38,360 Okay, so it's adding. Okay, and we can add more. Okay, and then we've talked about this issue before. 156 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:44,200 or, and I'm wondering, I mean, are there, are there like panels that we have out there 157 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:44,460 today? 158 00:13:44,460 --> 00:13:48,920 They're going to be swapped out to new ones or is everything we have today still functional 159 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,180 and we're just adding stuff. 160 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:56,220 Everything we have today is still is just adding stuff that's, when we originally built out 161 00:13:56,220 --> 00:14:01,640 this system, we, we, we originally designed it with the intent of what, what we wanted 162 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,720 to do county wide, not just third street wide. 163 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,480 And so it's able to accommodate not only third street, but also the growth we're intending towards 164 00:14:11,260 --> 00:14:16,880 other locations as well. Okay. Good. So is the lockdown function also connected to the 165 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:23,420 courthouse? It can be. They have they have certain functions that are built in as well. Okay. 166 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,900 All right. Thank you very much. I don't have any further questions. Do we have a motion or further 167 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:34,640 questions? Maybe one other question from the last one is just is there 168 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:41,260 there's some sort of way to keep maybe a county commissioner that's not very technical 169 00:14:41,260 --> 00:14:44,920 logically advance from accidentally locking down the building. 170 00:14:45,420 --> 00:14:49,200 I was looking at the way he said it. 171 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:57,460 We can absolutely support and train any county commissioner as much as necessary. 172 00:14:58,220 --> 00:14:58,500 Awesome. 173 00:14:58,700 --> 00:14:59,080 Thank you. 174 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,360 With that, I'd move to approve the third street building access control systems upgrade for a total cost of 86,000, 286 dollars and 73 cents. And I will seconds. Now, we have motion, a second, any further discussion on the motion. Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Chair votes, yes, unanimous. All right. Thank you so much, Andrew. Appreciate the work you do. All right. Oak Park Ranch, Oak Park Ranch Park Project. That seems like too many parks. 175 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,760 Park's. To Parkie, 176 00:15:35,780 --> 00:15:38,940 Oak Ranch RV Park project. She'll 177 00:15:42,220 --> 00:15:46,920 straighten this out. Yeah. Good morning commissioners. Allie 178 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,860 Pulse to 8 Director of the Ministry of Services. Back yet 179 00:15:50,860 --> 00:16:00,480 again regarding Oak Ranch RV Park. Project. Just a little recap 180 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,540 For everyone for the record, 2024, 181 00:16:04,900 --> 00:16:15,160 Wasco County received a notice of grant funding for $1 million to repair and replace the existing RV structure infrastructure at the 159 property. 182 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,060 In 2026, OPRD, Oregon State Oregon Parks and Rec, 183 00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:29,560 by staff that this funding would be reallocated to another project. In the state, if we were not able, 184 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:35,320 Wasso County was not able to get through the permitting process and become a shovel ready status 185 00:16:36,020 --> 00:16:44,160 project. To safeguard that funding, staff issued a formal RFP explicitly noting that the project 186 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:52,160 commencement was contingent upon final project execution. Following the competitive solicitation 187 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:59,020 process conduct under Oregon Public Contracting Code, Wastow County received two formal proposals, 188 00:16:59,740 --> 00:17:05,620 an evaluation committee independently scored the submission against the objective criteria 189 00:17:05,620 --> 00:17:13,860 established in the RFP, including qualification, cost, and project timelines. With that press 190 00:17:13,860 --> 00:17:23,280 sign construction LLC earned the highest score. On June 12th of 2026, the county issued 191 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:30,360 a notice of a tent to award this project to Cresline and initiated the mandatory protest 192 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:37,220 period. No formal protests were received during that statutory process and fulfilling all 193 00:17:37,220 --> 00:17:44,240 state and local procurements and we fulfilled all state and local procurement requirements. 194 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:51,880 During the July 1st and 15th of 2026 board sessions staff presented documentation regarding 195 00:17:51,880 --> 00:18:01,440 the OPRD grant and the proposed project scope grant execution and match the board approved 196 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:09,940 the required local match of a minimum of close to $884,900 and authorize the execution of the 197 00:18:09,940 --> 00:18:18,940 million dollar OPR D grant agreement and that was subsequently approved through the DOJ Department 198 00:18:18,940 --> 00:18:25,480 of Justice and we do have a fully executed grant agreement now with Wastow County for that amount. 199 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:33,000 The board also reviewed four project options and selected the original proposal with which 200 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:39,160 included a larger ADA assessable restroom, landscaping, fire pits, and picnic tables 201 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:49,820 for a total product amount of $2,568,866 dollars. 202 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:58,360 So based on these prior decisions, staff respectfully request the Board of County Commission take the following action. 203 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:09,300 Approved the construction contract with Cressline Construction Company LLC in the mouth of $2,568,866 dollars. 204 00:19:10,140 --> 00:19:17,140 And also authorized Chief Administrative Officer Tyler Stone to execute necessary contract amendments and 205 00:19:17,140 --> 00:19:23,220 exchange orders within the approved project budget, a contingency in accordance with applicable 206 00:19:23,220 --> 00:19:25,020 public contracting regulations. 207 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:28,860 Any questions? 208 00:19:31,290 --> 00:19:31,450 No. 209 00:19:31,530 --> 00:19:32,090 Looks like we're good. 210 00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:32,390 All right. 211 00:19:32,410 --> 00:19:32,890 All in favor. 212 00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:33,510 Yeah. 213 00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:34,470 Thanks. 214 00:19:35,970 --> 00:19:36,930 Just kidding. 215 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:42,350 I did want to reiterate my position on this, which I spoke as a member of the audience and 216 00:19:42,350 --> 00:19:44,510 I'm very happy to speak as a member of the commission. 217 00:19:45,170 --> 00:19:46,210 We got a gift here. 218 00:19:46,210 --> 00:19:51,870 When we got a million dollar grant and we got the Gorge Commission approval with no objections 219 00:19:51,870 --> 00:19:56,310 from the friends and that is, you know, you're going to get that again which is why I strongly 220 00:19:56,310 --> 00:20:01,910 supported doing the maximum that we possibly could with what we were given. So, delighted to 221 00:20:01,910 --> 00:20:07,910 have that result. All right. Questions from any other questions? 222 00:20:10,890 --> 00:20:13,890 I mean, I think all of my questions have been answered. 223 00:20:15,630 --> 00:20:19,530 I'm guessing a few questions are upcoming, so we'll see if that eliciting questions 224 00:20:19,530 --> 00:20:19,930 for me. 225 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:20,730 Okay. 226 00:20:22,630 --> 00:20:23,730 I guess I have questions. 227 00:20:24,510 --> 00:20:29,770 So no, I don't, I just, I have maybe some questions, but I just want to make sure we understand 228 00:20:29,770 --> 00:20:30,610 what we're getting into. 229 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:36,970 So basically with this approval, we're kind of, because it's a design-build contract, they're 230 00:20:36,970 --> 00:20:39,190 All of the details are not worked out, 231 00:20:39,310 --> 00:20:42,750 meaning that all of the minutiae of specifications 232 00:20:43,150 --> 00:20:45,810 and types of toilet fixtures and all these kind of things 233 00:20:45,810 --> 00:20:48,330 are still to be worked out kind of in the process 234 00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:50,550 and working with the contractor. 235 00:20:50,910 --> 00:20:52,770 So I just want to make that clear 236 00:20:52,770 --> 00:20:55,410 that there's still lots of work to do 237 00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:57,810 and lots of, so this is a legal document 238 00:20:57,810 --> 00:21:00,230 that we're entering into with the press line, 239 00:21:00,290 --> 00:21:03,690 but that doesn't mean there's still tons 240 00:21:03,690 --> 00:21:04,770 and tons of work to do. 241 00:21:04,770 --> 00:21:13,870 So, the one question I had was related to the approval from our planning office, there 242 00:21:13,870 --> 00:21:17,890 were conditions of approval on there, and I just want to make sure that Cressline is 243 00:21:17,890 --> 00:21:25,170 well aware what those conditions are, and they've acknowledged that none of those impact 244 00:21:25,170 --> 00:21:26,430 their proposal. 245 00:21:27,570 --> 00:21:27,770 Correct. 246 00:21:28,050 --> 00:21:28,190 Okay. 247 00:21:28,490 --> 00:21:28,630 All right. 248 00:21:28,970 --> 00:21:32,850 They have received the Notice of Decision with the list of conditions. 249 00:21:33,610 --> 00:21:42,230 Okay. And then one thing, I had a question, just in their proposal, it has $30,000 for 250 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:49,110 archaeological compliance and SHIPO coordination. So what, I guess my question slashed a little 251 00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:52,670 bit of concern, is that enough resource? I mean, not that we know, right, because we 252 00:21:52,670 --> 00:21:59,230 don't know what's going to happen. But let's say, for example, more issues run or run into 253 00:21:59,230 --> 00:22:06,970 related to that? Do they cover that or is that somehow? How do we anticipate that being resolved? 254 00:22:07,310 --> 00:22:12,290 Good question and we don't know until we're out there. However, in the notice of decision, 255 00:22:12,550 --> 00:22:23,630 there are guidelines that we have to follow based on those conditions. For instance, finding a bone 256 00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:32,210 versus finding I don't know a sphere would be two different things we would have to and there's also 257 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:38,990 instructions on how we would have to mark that out if Cressline would have to stop 258 00:22:38,990 --> 00:22:44,930 if they can keep going and start working on a different section of the property while that was 259 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:52,830 being investigated. Okay I guess I'm just wondering like and I'm thinking of it in the context of the 260 00:22:52,830 --> 00:23:01,010 city doing their first three project currently. And as they've entered into the project and excavated, 261 00:23:01,130 --> 00:23:05,910 they've basically essentially shut the project down for quite some time over our archaeological 262 00:23:05,910 --> 00:23:11,490 things. And there's obviously costs related to that. So I just want to I guess my question is 263 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:18,290 if that something like that was to happen is that on the contractor, is that something that we'll 264 00:23:18,290 --> 00:23:20,830 be looking at later as a change order. 265 00:23:21,290 --> 00:23:26,910 Yeah, that would definitely be something that we would discuss with a press line once we 266 00:23:26,910 --> 00:23:30,050 get to the point that we can to press those things with press line. 267 00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:30,510 Okay. 268 00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:35,950 Because I know that in talking with them, they had a certain approach to the project that 269 00:23:35,950 --> 00:23:42,770 was going to potentially, you know, need less digging, which is usually when you have 270 00:23:42,770 --> 00:23:43,730 archaeological things. 271 00:23:43,730 --> 00:23:46,290 and I'm just curious, is that still their approach? 272 00:23:46,590 --> 00:23:48,110 Is there a approach changed yet? 273 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:51,070 The last I spoke with Crestline last week, 274 00:23:51,070 --> 00:23:52,370 this is still their approach. 275 00:23:52,650 --> 00:23:53,590 Okay. All right. 276 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:59,790 And then, well, so just for our properties purposes, 277 00:24:00,070 --> 00:24:00,770 I mean, you look at this, 278 00:24:01,090 --> 00:24:02,390 the biggest thing is the ADA, 279 00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:03,930 Restroom and Charifå°‘ly. 280 00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:07,490 So obviously there's $9,000 or $41,000 in that one. 281 00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:09,210 So I think there's a lot of work to be done 282 00:24:09,210 --> 00:24:11,830 to determine kind of what that's going to look like. 283 00:24:12,330 --> 00:24:13,350 A lot of that's going to happen 284 00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:18,790 in this first phase and I think that's something that we should be aware of. So there's our first phase 285 00:24:18,790 --> 00:24:25,370 of the project which is designed so and then after design is done it comes back to us and then we 286 00:24:25,370 --> 00:24:32,250 look at it to determine is this what we wanted is this and then there'll be a price associated with 287 00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:37,150 a specific price associated with it at that point in time which we will be approving correct. 288 00:24:37,930 --> 00:25:06,410 Well, right now we're approving the yes, so we can't we will come back if that's what you would like and I can share those details with you for sure, but I mean they're going to complete that because it says right here, it says basically as you go through it, you know, there's phase one is design phase and there's a certain price to that and then construction and then it's contingent on county approval. So I'm assuming it will come back to us to make a decision about yes, we're moving forward with this design. 289 00:25:06,410 --> 00:25:08,230 Is that right? 290 00:25:09,170 --> 00:25:10,590 Well, that's why I asked if it was- 291 00:25:10,590 --> 00:25:11,550 Listen, saying yes. 292 00:25:11,890 --> 00:25:13,190 You guys are like waffling. 293 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:15,030 Okay. 294 00:25:15,670 --> 00:25:17,050 We're going to approve this. 295 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:19,610 You know, approve it again when it comes back to us. 296 00:25:19,930 --> 00:25:27,270 So in the re-gaming Tyler, I'm asking for Tyler to have some authority to make those decisions 297 00:25:27,270 --> 00:25:30,130 and change orders as those things progress. 298 00:25:30,610 --> 00:25:33,830 Okay. And I would see that more when we get into the construction phase. 299 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:37,690 but I think between now and the end of design, 300 00:25:37,790 --> 00:25:40,570 I guess my personal position would be, 301 00:25:40,670 --> 00:25:42,750 I want to see what they come up with the design. 302 00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:44,930 I want to see what they come up with the hard costs 303 00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:45,770 and all that kind of stuff. 304 00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:50,610 So we can make decisions on whether we support that or not. 305 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:51,910 I mean, we can be involved. 306 00:25:52,150 --> 00:25:54,270 I don't want to say wait till then and then show a toast 307 00:25:54,270 --> 00:25:55,650 and then whatever. 308 00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:58,010 But I think that's an important component for us 309 00:25:58,010 --> 00:26:00,450 to kind of say, okay, we're still good to go. 310 00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:14,990 I mean, for example, if you came back and it was 3.7 million, they were proposing 3.7 million like now, but if it comes back and instead of 2.8, it's, you know, 1.97, who knows, I mean there's a lot of stuff that can happen in that process. 311 00:26:15,530 --> 00:26:16,470 I'd be happy to bring about. 312 00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:18,150 Okay, that's what I would prefer. 313 00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:19,410 Sounds good. 314 00:26:19,910 --> 00:26:20,150 Yeah. 315 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:21,630 Sounds good to me. 316 00:26:21,790 --> 00:26:22,450 Okay, all right. 317 00:26:23,070 --> 00:26:24,590 All right, that's all I had. 318 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:27,190 Anybody have anything else? 319 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,560 No, I think if they come back with a design with Orange and Purple Stripes on it, we'll 320 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,580 probably turn that down. 321 00:26:35,980 --> 00:26:39,080 So, maybe we'll swap the option, please, we'll, indeed. 322 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Okay. 323 00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:41,620 Do we have a motion? 324 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,680 I'd move to approve the construction contract with Questline Construction Company LLC in the 325 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:54,880 amount of $2,568,866 in authorized chief administrative officer Tyler Stone to approve 326 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:01,520 necessary change orders to the original contract based on the Crestline constructions final design. 327 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,220 I will definitely second that. All right, motion a second. Any further discussion? 328 00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:12,740 Hearing none, all those in favor? Hi. Chair votes, yes, unanimous. All right, 329 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,960 thanks. Thank you. Thank you for having me, Sally. Yeah, I know it's been a lot. 330 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:25,780 and it's not over yet okay we are going to why don't we we can quickly do the EDC 331 00:27:25,780 --> 00:27:28,820 appointments since Andrew's here and I'm sure you probably don't want to stay 332 00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:34,500 until for the rest of our meeting so Andrew welcome what are we got here good 333 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:40,160 morning commissioners Andrew Danies I'm deputy director of my head I also staff 334 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,660 the Bosque County Economic Development Commission the request in front of you 335 00:27:44,660 --> 00:27:51,840 this morning is for an appointment to the EDC. This is for position 6, which is 336 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:59,240 reserved for chambers of commerce. Historically Lisa Farquharson from the 337 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,940 Dallas area chamber of commerce has been in that position however she 338 00:28:03,940 --> 00:28:08,360 retired this summer and so we're asking to appoint her replacement. 339 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:16,520 Replacement, we're requesting is Lynn Cox, who is the new Dalles area chamber CEO. 340 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,260 Lynn is a Dalles native. 341 00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:32,640 She grew up here, moved to the Portland area where she enjoyed a nearly 25-year career at Intel, moved back with her husband last summer to become the tourism director of Explore the Dalles. 342 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:38,640 and then when Lisa retired this summer, Lynn was promoted to become the new 343 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:44,960 Dallas area chamber CEO and so we're requesting that she's appointed to the 344 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:51,900 remainder Lisa's term which runs through December 31st, 2028. All right. Very 345 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:58,060 good questions for Andrew. No, it sounds like an absolute positive move. So thanks 346 00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:04,700 for that. Yeah. I think it's great. I'm going to make the assumption since she filled it out 347 00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:09,680 that she's willing to do this. That is correct. Yes. Yes. Yeah. No. Thank you. I'd appreciate it. 348 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:17,100 All right. I have no questions. The motion. All right. I'll move to a point order number 26-035. 349 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:28,040 Appointing ring calls to the Waskow County Economic Development Commission representing City of 350 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,040 Chair votes. 351 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:29,220 Yes. 352 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,720 Thank you so much, Andrew. 353 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,460 Thank you. 354 00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:31,860 Thank you. 355 00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:34,340 All right. 356 00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:36,760 We are right on time. 357 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,440 We're a minute late. 358 00:29:37,540 --> 00:29:43,040 Actually, we're going to go on to our outdoor mass gathering permit for the harvest festival. 359 00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:44,220 And I'm going to read the script. 360 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:56,440 The public hearing is now open for the purpose of considering planning file number 921-26-000042 361 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,920 PLNG, a request for outdoor mask gathering permit for 362 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,900 An agricultural and education event, which includes games, music called Harvest Festival, 2026, 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. on August 28th through August 30th, 2026, with attendees up to 2,500, including staff and volunteers. The hearing would be open to public testimony. The procedure we're going to follow is the planning division will present the staff report and recommendation. Police fire road, emergency building codes and health officials may provide comments 363 00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:35,100 and recommendations, the applicant may provide a presentation if they choose to do so. 364 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:44,120 The public including technical, not sure what technical is, but will be able to provide 365 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,220 testimony in favor and in opposition. 366 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,740 The applicant will have an opportunity to rebut other testimony, then the board will deliberate 367 00:30:51,740 --> 00:30:54,320 and make a motion for approval or denial. 368 00:30:54,980 --> 00:30:59,140 Let's start with the disclosure of interest, that's part a contact and potential conflict. 369 00:30:59,140 --> 00:31:05,240 Does any commissioner wish to disqualify themselves for any personal or financial interests in this matter? 370 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:14,600 Not me, let me know where I. Does any commissioner wish to report any significant x-pay partay or pre-hearing contacts? 371 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,280 All right, neither am I. 372 00:31:19,580 --> 00:31:26,020 Staff contact is not x-partay. It does not need to be disclosed. Will staff please present their report? 373 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,400 You can introduce yourself guys. 374 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,100 Thank you, Chair and Commissioners. Good morning, everyone. 375 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,280 I'm Flueh Eckerd. I'm Dustin Williams, Associate Planner, 376 00:31:35,540 --> 00:31:39,880 Bosco County Planning Division. March 17th, 2026, 377 00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:43,560 Bosco County Planning Division received a request for an outdoor mass 378 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,680 gathering from applicant Anthony Stelzer. This application was processed and 379 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,860 reviewed using applicable standards from our outdoor mass gathering ordinance, 380 00:31:53,860 --> 00:32:00,760 22-003. In this process, Moscow County Planning Division staff has been the liaison between 381 00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:07,140 applicant and the applicable fire, police, health, and road safety technical experts. 382 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:14,830 All right, the request is to permit an agricultural and education event titled the 383 00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:23,130 Harvest Festival 2026. The date of the event is August 8th through August 30th, 2026. 384 00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:29,250 This year, a maximum attendance is going to be at 2,500, including staff and volunteers. 385 00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:35,970 And this is located off of Duffer Valley Road, Southwest of Duffer, which we'll show you the map. 386 00:32:37,690 --> 00:32:47,750 So it's out number 10010. It's 29.5 acre tax plot, and it's in the exclusive form use agricultural zone. 387 00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:51,130 All right. 388 00:32:52,410 --> 00:32:58,530 So, we have a site plan that shows overall layout of the event. Access is going to be provided 389 00:32:58,530 --> 00:33:06,390 by Dufour Valley and Wolfrun Roads with entrances and exits shown in red. They'll have a single paved 390 00:33:06,390 --> 00:33:12,290 driveway that's going to be reserved for the first responders to ensure quick access. 391 00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:18,170 There are some emergency water locations depicted with the red hydrant. 392 00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:29,150 The purple is depicting children's activities, blue is depicting vendor location, yellow 393 00:33:29,150 --> 00:33:35,730 depicts bathroom, hand-washing and waste collection locations, orange is the check-in booth where 394 00:33:35,730 --> 00:33:42,770 they're going to tally the number of attendees, brown depicts the speaker tent, demo tent and 395 00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:49,470 and food tent location and there is a red star there depicts the emergency gathering location. 396 00:33:51,070 --> 00:34:00,930 The event parking is depicted on the west side there with car symbols with the parking sign there. 397 00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:13,590 Here's just a list of the criteria that we look at when we go through the application and the conditions of approval. 398 00:34:14,390 --> 00:34:19,510 The criteria concerns requisite state laws pertaining to health safety and welfare. 399 00:34:24,690 --> 00:34:31,970 Basically, just outlining our notification process, March 17th, 2026 application was submitted 400 00:34:31,970 --> 00:34:34,030 to the Wasco County Planning Division. 401 00:34:34,930 --> 00:34:41,650 As I said, on May 21st, 2026, we provided that application to relevant agencies. 402 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:43,830 There's a list there. 403 00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:50,610 on July 21st notice a public hearing was mailed out to surrounding landowners and other 404 00:34:50,610 --> 00:34:59,030 applicable agencies and on July 22nd, 2026, there was a notice in the newspaper, Columbia 405 00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:01,830 Gorge News, for the hearing today. 406 00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:09,900 So just to go over quickly some of the comments, we obviously we send this out to experts and 407 00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:16,220 some comments we get back for review criteria that might be outside of our ordinance. 408 00:35:16,220 --> 00:35:22,180 In this case, we did have some review criteria regarding an RV park license. 409 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:26,280 So real quickly, this was June 17th. 410 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,040 We had building codes, Kylie Van Orman. 411 00:35:28,780 --> 00:35:33,140 She made some comments in relation to an RV park license that was going to be required. 412 00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:40,000 Just to go over real quickly, the comments were we would need a detailed site map like we 413 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,020 do for permanent parks, showing a 10 foot space in requirement between RVs and tents as 414 00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:48,980 as well as setbacks from property lines and other structures, sites would also need 415 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:52,040 to be identified and somehow marked off like by spray paint. 416 00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:59,200 We would need to see access for campers and emergency responders if there are not camp 417 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:05,440 ground roads, they do need to develop them, but they do not need to develop them, but they 418 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,900 need to show the proposed pass of travel. 419 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,420 We will need to make sure that Wade from OSFM has a chance to comment on the park. 420 00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:19,360 They must show adequate toilet facilities and trash containers not only for the RB campers, but for the festival goers. 421 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,220 I do not have authority over anything, but the number of toilets and trash cans for the RV park. 422 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,180 So those were the comments. 423 00:36:27,460 --> 00:36:35,860 We're basically where the applicant has been engaged in that process of getting the applicable permits with building codes as of today. 424 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,660 So they're still going through that process. 425 00:36:38,740 --> 00:36:40,980 And I might understand that there will be an inspection. 426 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:48,040 at some point. Okay, so the next comment, those relevant, comes from North Central Public 427 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:54,240 Health, Polyglondale. On July 10th, she made comments in relation to the RV Park License 428 00:36:54,240 --> 00:37:00,040 and Food Vendor License. It's basically, we connected with her on Wednesday and provide 429 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,980 the application materials for both the RV Park License and the temporary event, Food Vendor 430 00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:12,700 license, clarify that Oregon Administrative Rule, OAR-333-031, does not define a temporary 431 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:17,880 RV park. Any park establish for use, whether temporary or permanent, still requires a public 432 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,620 health license. We're working with her now on the application so that once building 433 00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:26,740 cause the proof of the RV park plan, we can move her through our process quickly. 434 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,860 Regarding food service, we explained to Bethany that even though food would be paired at the 435 00:37:31,860 --> 00:37:36,280 farm stand kitchen and transported to the event site serving food at a separate location 436 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,720 requires a temporary event license through us. We're moving her through the application 437 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:46,240 process now. So she's ready by the event date. And again, our understanding is that she's 438 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:52,240 or they are applicant Bethany has been in talks with getting those appropriate permits 439 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:57,540 through public health. So we'll move on to next slide here. Water. 440 00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:03,700 So, we didn't have any new comments from the water master for this year, but we did have 441 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:04,540 a comment last year. 442 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,920 I think it's still relevant when it comes to the amount of water. 443 00:38:07,420 --> 00:38:13,500 Water is actually something that's regulated by our ordinance for the OMG. 444 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,320 And this is not something that really came from an outside entity. 445 00:38:20,140 --> 00:38:24,460 But his comment last year was from a water perspective, but consider this a commercial 446 00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:27,580 so they can use a maximum of 5,000 gallons per day 447 00:38:27,580 --> 00:38:29,680 from the well without a water right. 448 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,780 In addition to the bottle water provided by the farm stand, 449 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,300 they may need to have Bishop's annotation 450 00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:37,080 provided additional potable water, 451 00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:38,560 given the number of people attending. 452 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,260 That was his comment. 453 00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:41,880 If we go to the next slide here, 454 00:38:42,740 --> 00:38:45,160 we can see our requirements at the top there. 455 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,420 These have changed slightly this year 456 00:38:47,420 --> 00:38:48,760 because there are a number of attendees 457 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,900 went from 1500 to 2500. 458 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,680 So the math is basically 12 gallons of drinking water per person per day. 459 00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:04,300 That's 30,000 gallons in this case, and then it does ask for storage facilities for 460 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:07,560 a minimum of 5 gallons of drinking water per person per day. 461 00:39:08,580 --> 00:39:15,960 That comes out to be 12,500 gallons, and an amount of drinking water equal to one day usage 462 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,060 and reserve, which would be 30,000 gallons. 463 00:39:20,060 --> 00:39:25,940 So, they provided that they're going to have potable water from two sources, the well 464 00:39:25,940 --> 00:39:30,340 water, as the water master indicated, you get 5,000 per day out of that. 465 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,840 And then they're going to have multiple pallets of water. 466 00:39:35,020 --> 00:39:40,760 They do have a couple other additional sources of what I think we would consider non-potable 467 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:49,300 water reservoir, which has more than enough water for non-drinking purposes, fire safety, 468 00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:53,800 hand-washing sanitation, things like that. I'm sure that could be used for that. 469 00:39:54,040 --> 00:40:00,360 And then an on-site water truck with 2,000 gallons is the plan this year again. 470 00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:07,400 So, you know, ultimately, that's the deficiency in the application respect to the on-site 471 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,400 portable water. They're not quite meeting that number. 472 00:40:12,140 --> 00:40:18,220 Last year's event, we were able to get a variance basically from the board and respect to that. 473 00:40:18,220 --> 00:40:21,500 And so this year's event would also require that. 474 00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:24,260 The only difference is the amount of people has increased. 475 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,640 So we go to that slide here. 476 00:40:32,540 --> 00:40:35,280 So this is just approval criteria. 477 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:42,680 This is where we go over this kind of your authority to approve or deny. 478 00:40:45,870 --> 00:40:47,490 B is kind of important. 479 00:40:47,490 --> 00:40:54,250 This is where we consider, you know, you may consider and require an applicant to comply with a condition submitted by public officials. 480 00:40:54,250 --> 00:40:57,810 So this is where we get things like the RV park that comes in. 481 00:40:58,510 --> 00:41:02,230 And you guys can consider that information even though it's outside of our ordinance. 482 00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:05,310 Alright, go to the next slide then. 483 00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:11,330 So your options are to approve the application except the proposed conditions. 484 00:41:12,510 --> 00:41:18,570 approve the application with amended findings and conditions, deny the application with 485 00:41:18,570 --> 00:41:22,030 amended findings that the request does not comply with applicable health and safety 486 00:41:22,030 --> 00:41:30,190 regulations, contain in our ordinance. If additional information is needed, keep the evidence 487 00:41:30,190 --> 00:41:35,290 record open and continue to hear into date and time certain to allow the submit all of additional 488 00:41:35,290 --> 00:41:40,910 information or close the evidence record and continue to hear into a date and time certain 489 00:41:40,910 --> 00:41:46,450 allow the submittal of additional information. So at this point you just take questions, 490 00:41:46,850 --> 00:41:51,330 we may have some technical experts that can talk about some other things if they're here. 491 00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:55,070 Okay, very good. Questions of staff at this point. 492 00:41:58,390 --> 00:42:10,110 Is there like an after event review that you guys do for just have knowledge and follow up 493 00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:15,430 like after last year's event to kind of see how things went and so forth. 494 00:42:15,850 --> 00:42:19,550 Yeah, we do get comments after the event occasionally. 495 00:42:20,090 --> 00:42:26,670 Those go into the record and that's just something that definitely can make an impact 496 00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:32,290 on future recommendations for that event if there's negative feedback, maybe other things 497 00:42:32,290 --> 00:42:36,870 to address, even positive feedback, if that's what we were to get, it'd be great. 498 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:42,910 We would definitely have those lines of communication open well after the event and include in our record 499 00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:47,570 Any of the comments. That's what we do this whole process is kind of 500 00:42:47,570 --> 00:42:54,330 Tally and keep track of all the different entities and all the different things that might come in and it all comes through us 501 00:42:54,330 --> 00:42:59,770 So we can keep a record and do you recall after last year's event with what were were the comments? 502 00:43:00,070 --> 00:43:04,350 Yeah positive or is there some negative was their concern about the water? 503 00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:10,630 It was quiet, so we didn't receive any comments in any way, which is good. 504 00:43:11,850 --> 00:43:16,810 So we didn't hear that there was any issue with the variance they received last year about 505 00:43:16,810 --> 00:43:17,310 the water. 506 00:43:17,810 --> 00:43:23,150 I think the general consensus was 12 gallons of water per person was a little more than 507 00:43:23,630 --> 00:43:25,430 most people would think anyone could drink. 508 00:43:26,030 --> 00:43:31,250 We didn't get any comments back about any negative aspect of that. 509 00:43:31,250 --> 00:43:37,490 I would agree that no comments is usually good because I found that people are more likely 510 00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:44,210 to comment on negative things than give positive feedback, but that's on lots of things. 511 00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:53,310 And there's no, I didn't see in here and I'm going to make the assumption again that some 512 00:43:53,310 --> 00:43:57,270 of the special events, some of these outdoor mask gathering events that we've looked 513 00:43:57,270 --> 00:44:07,290 that include something to do with approving on fire, approving fire works, that sort of thing, 514 00:44:07,410 --> 00:44:15,490 and there's nothing in here regarding fire or fireworks. I assume that they're very opposed to 515 00:44:15,490 --> 00:44:20,810 fire at this point at the end of August. Yeah, we did not receive any comment from fire, but that 516 00:44:20,810 --> 00:44:27,650 Now as large as I'm sure, in part, there was really nothing to consider that as far as 517 00:44:27,650 --> 00:44:33,950 the event itself, other than just the people there, making sure he had good ways in and 518 00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:34,250 out. 519 00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:39,590 Obviously, the event of a fire is important, regardless if you have a fire works, but yeah, 520 00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:43,910 nothing like that in the application, no birdie, have anything. 521 00:44:44,650 --> 00:44:45,090 Okay. 522 00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:47,250 That's all I have at the moment. 523 00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:48,590 All right. 524 00:44:48,670 --> 00:44:49,250 Roger, you have anything? 525 00:44:49,250 --> 00:44:59,970 Yeah, a couple of things. Well, it's similar on the fire. I was a little concerned because it said they hadn't consulted with any fire department, but also said that we do not allow any campfires or smoking plan to have easy water. 526 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:31,370 Access. So, yeah, it would be nice if there were at least some consultation in my line, but if we've had good experience in the past and we've not had any problems, we can probably go ahead with this. Yeah, we certainly, you know, provide the application to the fire experts locally there and had not received any comment back. Okay. That's good to know. Yeah. Thank you. Anything else, brother? No, that's it. Okay. Um, how about on that team point, like law enforcement, so diverse, I mean, our sheriff's office, he looked at it, they experienced it. 527 00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:35,890 last year. Did they have any comments at all? Yeah, nothing. He asked Elaine asked if he needed to be 528 00:45:35,890 --> 00:45:40,990 here for this one. You didn't have any comments. So I said, you know, this feeling optional. So yeah, 529 00:45:41,010 --> 00:45:46,230 an opportunity to really make any mention. And we had not heard that there were any issues. Okay. 530 00:45:46,810 --> 00:45:53,530 Very good. Okay. Um, just one other comment. I will note that looking through the application in 531 00:45:53,530 --> 00:45:59,490 the, in the packet. I appreciate all the emails showing that you reached out to all these entities 532 00:45:59,490 --> 00:46:10,370 and gave them the opportunity, so like there was, I just passed that to the Department of Forestry. 533 00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:19,370 There was, back in May, there was a request to fill out and that sort of thing, 534 00:46:19,450 --> 00:46:21,430 so everybody had their opportunity. 535 00:46:21,870 --> 00:46:28,910 So again, I assume silence is kind of approval versus if somebody had the concerns 536 00:46:28,910 --> 00:46:31,290 they would have made it a priority. 537 00:46:31,810 --> 00:46:35,070 None of these people are bashful and they would have spoken up. 538 00:46:35,570 --> 00:46:40,650 Yeah, big part of our process here is getting in contact with the experts and allowing 539 00:46:40,650 --> 00:46:45,090 them to, you know, processing that, you know, allow that to go to the record. 540 00:46:45,410 --> 00:46:49,850 So I just wanted to add a comment that these people have been really good neighbors for nothing 541 00:46:49,850 --> 00:46:50,110 else. 542 00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:52,570 Opening up a grocery store downtown the Dels. 543 00:46:52,650 --> 00:46:53,310 Thank you so much. 544 00:46:56,810 --> 00:47:02,520 Okay, I stay there, gentlemen, and we're going to ask if there's any additional comments 545 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:07,220 that police, fire, road, emergency, building codes, or public health officials, which 546 00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:07,560 are brought. 547 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,100 Is there anybody here from any of those entities and do they have any comments? 548 00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:14,340 I don't see anybody in the room. 549 00:47:14,460 --> 00:47:15,200 How about online? 550 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,080 I see 551 00:47:19,850 --> 00:47:21,750 Kylee's here, but she made comments already. 552 00:47:23,650 --> 00:47:25,110 Is there anybody here? 553 00:47:25,770 --> 00:47:26,030 Okay. 554 00:47:26,030 --> 00:47:30,770 Okay. Alright, we're going to assume there's no other comments from those folks. How about 555 00:47:30,770 --> 00:47:35,450 we're going to go to the applicant or their representatives and do you wish to present 556 00:47:35,450 --> 00:47:37,050 anything as well? 557 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:49,480 Okay, Bethany, so you are able, I think you have to unmute yourself. 558 00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:55,650 Hold on, 559 00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:56,730 we're working on something. 560 00:47:59,940 --> 00:48:02,320 There we go. I think you're good to go, Bethany. 561 00:48:03,620 --> 00:48:11,360 Yeah, so I just want to thank Dustin and everybody's help for getting this permit and applications 562 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,960 put through and getting all the details. I know this time we had a few more departments, 563 00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:22,460 you know, with the RV parking lot situation and the different things and it's been really great 564 00:48:22,460 --> 00:48:25,820 having everybody's help. So I just appreciate everybody making it possible. 565 00:48:28,660 --> 00:48:29,560 All right, did you have any 566 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,960 any comments on anything that was presented today, any issues? 567 00:48:34,180 --> 00:48:35,560 No, I didn't want to mention two. 568 00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:37,820 We'll have our security team, 569 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,160 Rover security out of Permiston. 570 00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:42,840 They're going to be bringing a team of four up here 571 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,660 to help with that. 572 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,300 We didn't have any incidents last year, 573 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,320 but I like being prepared. 574 00:48:49,140 --> 00:48:53,900 And so they also have, you know, just first response training 575 00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:56,460 and things like that, so we should be well prepared. 576 00:48:56,460 --> 00:49:02,180 Okay, did you have any comments on the water situation at all because basically it looks 577 00:49:02,180 --> 00:49:07,440 like the application is not meeting the minimum water requirements and last year we made 578 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:14,380 an exception. Is that right Dustin? Yeah. Okay, it was like 12 gallons. It's a lot of water. 579 00:49:14,620 --> 00:49:19,980 It is a lot of water. So I'm curious Bethany, if you like your experience, what was your experience 580 00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:24,420 last year and what is your expectation this year and anything else for us? 581 00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:29,640 Well I'll be honest I don't want to waste water. It's my thing. So last year we had our 582 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,780 5000 gallons from the well plus we had bottled water. I'm going to do the same thing this year 583 00:49:34,780 --> 00:49:40,960 and I can buy as much bottled water as we need. Last year we had a lot left over because still 584 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:48,740 many people brought their own water and so I kind of plan on just again playing that by ear. We're 585 00:49:48,740 --> 00:49:57,160 it's ready for people and we can buy more in very easily throughout the event as needed. 586 00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:01,420 But last year, what we had was sufficient and we actually had quite a bit left over. 587 00:50:02,780 --> 00:50:03,820 Okay, very good. 588 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:11,760 I was at a meeting yesterday actually and it heard that there is no bowel water to speak 589 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,560 of in Madras because of the issues happening in Warm Springs. 590 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:21,200 So there is a bit of a shortage in certain areas, so just be aware of that, I guess. 591 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,560 I don't assume you're going to matters for water, but... 592 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:24,760 No. 593 00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:28,320 Okay. All right. Anything else for us, Bethany? 594 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,060 No, thank you. 595 00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:34,840 If they may want to join us for the higher special, we'd love to see you commissioners there this year. 596 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,260 Okay. Thank you very much. 597 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,940 I think we are going to go to public testimony. 598 00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:46,500 Any anybody that wants to testify on this application is now welcome to do so either in the rule started in the room 599 00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:53,100 Does anybody have any comments in the room and if we do we'll move these guys out but stay there to see if we do have anybody 600 00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:55,260 Any comments in the room 601 00:50:56,860 --> 00:51:02,260 Anybody might kill Kenny thought you're going to comment on this. Okay. All right 602 00:51:02,260 --> 00:51:05,020 Very good anybody online. All 603 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,300 right anybody online just raise your hand 604 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:20,900 All right. We didn't have any testimony, so you don't have to rebut anything at all unless you want to make something up. 605 00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:32,360 All right. Very good. Okay. Since there's no further testimony, I'm going to close the public testimony portion of the hearing and open deliberations of the board. 606 00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:39,460 So gentlemen, do we have any additional comments or questions for staff? 607 00:51:39,460 --> 00:51:45,660 I think past experience has been very good and I think that's what we should go ahead with this. 608 00:51:47,660 --> 00:51:50,040 Okay. Yeah, I agree. 609 00:51:50,420 --> 00:51:59,800 And as I was sitting here, I put it on my calendar to try to go out and check things out and enjoy it. 610 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:05,580 But I think the few comments that I heard about it last year, 611 00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:14,000 if I'm remembering right we're very positive and so yeah and I'm glad Bethany actually brought 612 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:21,060 it up because going through my mind was that the water on site it relies its requirements and 613 00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:29,920 that sort of thing but I typically also take my own water if I'm going someplace like that so my 614 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,120 guess is if you add the extra water that the people that are camping bring or the people having 615 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:40,960 their cars that are just there for the day. You get a lot closer to that number of gallons, but 616 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:48,420 I'm pretty comfortable that it's not an issue for them. Okay, and they're not so far away from 617 00:52:49,340 --> 00:52:56,460 do-for-or-the-else that they couldn't, again, go get some. How many gallons a day per person? 618 00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:03,400 Is it 12? So 12 gallons? You drink 12 gallons a day of water? I should drink more than I drink, but 619 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,440 that I don't drink 12 gallons. 620 00:53:04,820 --> 00:53:07,880 I can't even imagine drinking 12 gallons a day, 621 00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:11,340 but is that the recommended daily dose or something? 622 00:53:11,660 --> 00:53:13,540 That's an OAR from... 623 00:53:13,540 --> 00:53:13,920 I know. 624 00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:16,240 They didn't see it, but yeah, it's a lot. 625 00:53:16,580 --> 00:53:17,140 It is a lot. 626 00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:18,260 Or do you enjoy a festival? 627 00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:19,240 I could have that. 628 00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:20,660 Yeah, you've got water in case. 629 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,060 For now, much time. 630 00:53:22,340 --> 00:53:24,740 You've got to know that maybe they need more. 631 00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:26,800 They've got a swimming pool. 632 00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:27,580 I mean, really? 633 00:53:30,090 --> 00:53:30,530 Okay. 634 00:53:31,470 --> 00:53:32,790 Any other questions of staff? 635 00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:47,010 Is I have a question in terms of like one of the motions is to approve order the order and is the order in here address the water situation and the fact that we're making an exception? 636 00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:51,370 The point we need to do that separately last 637 00:53:54,180 --> 00:54:00,360 year. I think it was just read into the decision as a variance. Sorry for the record. 638 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,960 Sean Bailey, Senior Planner, Wasco County Planning, but I believe we just adjusted the draft 639 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:13,640 order language after because it came up during the presentation last year and this year we could 640 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:20,200 just do the same thing. It's on the record at least that we've talked about it. But if we also, 641 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:25,580 I think just stayed at the end that that's included along with the approval that that covers it, 642 00:54:25,660 --> 00:54:29,400 but we could also change the draft order language before it's signed as well. 643 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:43,080 Okay, very good. Just want to make sure we hit that item. So if you choose to do so, you could just note for the record that we would approve the variance of the water based on the discussion we had here today. 644 00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:53,480 Yep. Okay. And based on the proposal, I guess. That's what they propose. Okay. All right. I don't have any other questions. Any other questions for you guys? 645 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,080 Do you have a motion if there's no more questions? 646 00:54:58,340 --> 00:55:04,700 I might move to approve order 26-036 for an outdoor mask gathering for a hard-to-specable 647 00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:16,460 20-26 from August 28 to 30 of 20-26 is proposed in Flanagan file number 921-26-0000042-PLAG 648 00:55:16,460 --> 00:55:21,760 and accept the findings and conditions contained in the summary and staff report with approval 649 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,960 the proposed variants for required drinking water. 650 00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:26,640 Second. 651 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:27,260 All right. 652 00:55:27,340 --> 00:55:28,080 I have a motion approval. 653 00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:29,820 Any discussion on the motion? 654 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,360 Very well said. 655 00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:33,100 I have to put it. 656 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:33,300 Yeah. 657 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:33,740 Yeah. 658 00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:36,440 Well, I would just say I wish them well. 659 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,080 I think it will be a great event. 660 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:39,780 I think it was as well last year or so. 661 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:40,300 All right. 662 00:55:40,940 --> 00:55:41,920 I'll call for the question. 663 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,840 All those in favor say aye. 664 00:55:43,420 --> 00:55:43,620 Aye. 665 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:43,980 Aye. 666 00:55:44,460 --> 00:55:44,880 Chair votes. 667 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:45,700 Yes, unanimous. 668 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,940 We have approved it. 669 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:48,800 Thank you for coming. 670 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,040 Thank you for working on this. 671 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,460 goes. Thanks, Bethany. Thank you, staff. Thank you. 672 00:55:55,740 --> 00:56:00,400 Okay. We are moving on to the ASP Fossil 673 00:56:01,020 --> 00:56:06,380 Reaffirmation of ASA Provider Contract Sheridan. Are you here? Oh, they're right here. 674 00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:11,900 He's even in person. I was hiding in the back. I hope we're not to be noticed until now. 675 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,940 Good morning, commissioners. Sheridan MacLeodan. I was going to mention it. 676 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:28,980 Thanks for having me. I'm here to request the re-evaluation of the contact with Faisal 677 00:56:28,980 --> 00:56:37,740 Ambulance that covers ASA 6. I don't know how it's good, so I've analoged with Faisal 678 00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:37,900 Ambulance. 679 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,640 All right, and I think we got some new information last night, which I think was just modifications 680 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,720 to what was in the packet. Is that right? 681 00:56:47,360 --> 00:57:00,940 Okay, so what were the changes in the new information on the date when the product starts? Okay. Okay. Do you know they're fighting by us? Yeah, that's the problem. So they all. 682 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:09,440 Yes, yes, they are. So are we. Okay. Any questions for Sheridan on this item? 683 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,340 They're currently providing the service, is that correct? 684 00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:18,080 Yes, they are providing service again. 685 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:18,640 Okay. 686 00:57:19,660 --> 00:57:22,380 I think Jefferson County was covering for them. 687 00:57:22,780 --> 00:57:22,960 Are they? 688 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:24,080 Yeah. 689 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:26,240 Okay. 690 00:57:27,260 --> 00:57:28,200 Makes sense. 691 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,660 Yeah, I don't have any other questions. 692 00:57:32,060 --> 00:57:32,420 Any questions? 693 00:57:32,740 --> 00:57:32,860 Yes. 694 00:57:33,020 --> 00:57:33,540 Good news. 695 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,500 I think all around. 696 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:34,860 Good news. 697 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:35,780 Okay. 698 00:57:36,980 --> 00:57:37,500 Do we have a motion? 699 00:57:39,780 --> 00:57:43,920 I move to approve the Reaffirmation of the Contracor Act, assigning West Coo County Enderland 700 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:49,740 Service Area ASA, number six, comprising the John Day Recreation Area to the City of 701 00:57:49,740 --> 00:57:50,120 Fossil. 702 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,240 Second motion. 703 00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:53,540 All right. 704 00:57:53,620 --> 00:57:54,580 We have motion in a second. 705 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,120 Any discussion? 706 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,980 Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. 707 00:57:59,500 --> 00:57:59,920 All right. 708 00:58:00,060 --> 00:58:00,420 Chair votes. 709 00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:01,200 Yes, unanimous. 710 00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:03,120 That was easy, huh? 711 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:03,700 Yeah. 712 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,160 Well, since we're ahead of schedule and we have a little time, can you give us a quick update 713 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:14,220 on fires since you are emergency manager? As we all know, there made quite a bit of 714 00:58:14,220 --> 00:58:20,740 progress on southern and then south-eastern climate. I think the last I heard was that 715 00:58:20,740 --> 00:58:25,400 cost me 19 percent contained which is better on high-polar sportsman's farm, 716 00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:31,220 longing dead area. What did you say? How much contained? The last one was 19 percent. It's probably 717 00:58:31,220 --> 00:58:36,180 a lot more than now. Okay, you're saying 90? 19. 19, oh yeah. I thought you should do 718 00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:38,400 And I was like wow, that's pretty good. 719 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,500 Contain on that area, but not very well contained another. 720 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:42,940 So, okay, gotcha. 721 00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:44,580 So, with that information, 722 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,500 we lower the evacuation levels 723 00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:48,780 for kind of a low warming and sportsmen's park. 724 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:49,180 Okay. 725 00:58:49,300 --> 00:58:52,240 However, we still have several level three zones 726 00:58:52,820 --> 00:58:56,840 that impacts several folks in the fancy area. 727 00:58:57,500 --> 00:59:00,460 So, in that, we need the service guard, the NS27, 728 00:59:01,260 --> 00:59:03,200 that tends to affect me, I believe, 729 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:13,260 And that's still kind of ongoing on the north and northeast, as well as the west portion. 730 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,680 It still may happen in the Stockholm. 731 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,400 Okay. They've still got lots of resources out there. 732 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,060 And apparently knock it out. 733 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,680 Let me describe. 734 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:23,580 Okay. 735 00:59:24,740 --> 00:59:31,700 When you saw the evacuation was reduced for if pine hull was it reduced to two level two. 736 00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:33,960 Okay. Okay. 737 00:59:35,980 --> 00:59:43,400 Okay. Everything else remains the same. Okay. Yeah, I was up on Highway 35 yesterday and 738 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:50,020 it was a lot of activity on Highway 35 because I think the fire was heading towards Highway 35. 739 00:59:50,020 --> 00:59:55,380 I think I think Mounted Meadows is still under level three and I think there's a lot of level three 740 00:59:55,380 --> 00:59:59,860 on that side. Is that correct? That is correct. And they must probably be neat. 741 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,640 Standing bells, level 3 zones, and possibly a blowdown, I wait 35, depending on whether 5.5 is now, or the footprint. They have a meeting this morning, and some effect right now, so we'll be able to get those answers to you. Okay, do they in the report in the meeting this morning, they talk about weather and is the weather going to is the wind going to change at all? Like I said, they're going to have to make the meeting at 10 o'clock. 742 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,500 for the evacuation and 10.30 for the coverage of this meeting. So I'll have a 743 01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:39,660 commission for you and I can update all of you on that. Okay. I know that yesterday on the 744 01:00:39,660 --> 01:00:46,920 corporates meeting yesterday, the weather report was higher temperatures and a little bit lighter 745 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:54,740 winds and the winds like there was Easterlies the last couple of days and the winds are supposed 746 01:00:54,740 --> 01:00:59,540 to kind of die down today and part of tomorrow and then change back to the normal 747 01:00:59,540 --> 01:01:06,520 westerlies and still load amid 90s through the weekend. They died for the rest of the week, 748 01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:12,980 come to the end of the day, so it's not very good on the RH. And when pattern, as you said, 749 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:18,580 it was easily and I think shifting back to the westerly, so you'll see it with itself. 750 01:01:18,580 --> 01:01:25,160 Okay. Yeah, it was also not a question of the fire to the north and to the west. 751 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:33,660 And yes, that name. Okay. Yeah, it was down to 26 as well in government camp and there was 752 01:01:33,660 --> 01:01:40,180 a lot of activity down there. People becoming very nervous that the which had seemed crazy, like, 753 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,320 you know, a week ago that the fire would be heading that way because it wasn't really heading that way 754 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,640 at all before and then it like turned around and started going the other direction. 755 01:01:48,420 --> 01:01:52,640 That's correct. And as you all probably know, there's clackiness actually has now some 756 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,760 evacuation levels as well. So this is going to be a not out clean counting fire. 757 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:02,320 Yep. I should note that watch duty shows one of the fires actually crossing 35 758 01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:09,000 and the farther north. So I don't know what that's which how much that information is. But that was 759 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,060 just put out just a few hours ago, so. 760 01:02:13,420 --> 01:02:16,060 Well, if you guys are updated, I don't have that there. 761 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:16,920 Okay, yeah. 762 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,540 That's disappointing. 763 01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:22,440 There was no fire by 35 when I drove through yesterday afternoon, so. 764 01:02:22,580 --> 01:02:22,760 Yeah. 765 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:23,980 That's disappointing. 766 01:02:24,380 --> 01:02:24,680 Okay. 767 01:02:24,980 --> 01:02:25,400 Very good. 768 01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:26,340 Anything else, Sheridan? 769 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:27,740 I have anything else. 770 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:28,940 I don't have any other questions. 771 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,780 We're getting lots of rest lately. 772 01:02:33,420 --> 01:02:33,880 Okay. 773 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:35,580 All right. 774 01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:36,620 Thanks for being here, Sheridan. 775 01:02:37,580 --> 01:02:37,860 All right. 776 01:02:37,860 --> 01:02:43,820 Moving on, we will go to the GIS modernization IGA with Polt County, TICO. 777 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,780 You're with us virtually, right? 778 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:48,980 Virtually, yes. 779 01:02:49,260 --> 01:02:51,300 Yes, I don't, I try not to go outside of it enough. 780 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,660 There's a dog right behind you. 781 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,800 Yeah, yeah, I've got to have my pit bull. 782 01:02:59,340 --> 01:02:59,780 Welcome. 783 01:03:00,500 --> 01:03:00,940 Thank you. 784 01:03:01,980 --> 01:03:08,200 So, our GIS web applications are all running on legacy software. 785 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:17,200 Database is 14 years old, and it's no longer supported by Microsoft. 786 01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:26,740 Our primary GIS software won't even attach to modern day databases, which is becoming a problem. 787 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:37,360 A few months back we received a grant that bought us a new database and hardware to put it on. 788 01:03:38,220 --> 01:03:50,280 The grant we're getting now is going to have the vendor help us put it all together because the upgrade and architectural changes are complicated. 789 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:57,440 I've been able to do that in the past, but it's kind of a shoestring and bubble gum thing. 790 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,920 with as many as they should be able to have us do it the correct way. 791 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:09,900 Grant such that we have access to them for 10 hours for $8,140 792 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,340 and then the state reimburses for that amount. 793 01:04:16,820 --> 01:04:21,640 And then once we've got that done, there's a second part of that project 794 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:34,160 which is getting parcel fabric, which is a completely different part of the system to work nicely with the rest of the architecture. 795 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:40,940 And that part, the parcel fabric is what Ivan is actually doing now for architectural maintenance. 796 01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:52,640 And this will bring him up to doing modern, modern methods and standard business practices. 797 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,220 So that will make a little lot more efficient for him. 798 01:04:58,460 --> 01:05:02,960 With Polk County 1, all I need is for you guys to sign an IGA. 799 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,520 And Polk County deals with the financials and the rest of that. 800 01:05:08,300 --> 01:05:18,520 they can just start working with us with the S3 purchase for S3. Well, we just need, 801 01:05:18,820 --> 01:05:24,440 you know, I need your blessing to get a PO from Finance. And then I can start running 802 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,260 off of that one. 803 01:05:27,620 --> 01:05:31,520 Pretty much the start date on this is going to be as soon as the ink's 804 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,320 in the paper 805 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:48,340 and the minimal thing here is the GISD suite upgraded. Do we have 806 01:05:48,340 --> 01:05:50,820 fountain fundings and we need your blessing? 807 01:05:53,610 --> 01:05:56,570 Okay. Thank you. Can you maybe just 808 01:05:56,570 --> 01:06:00,610 before you start? So can you just kind of go over the what's the total cost we're 809 01:06:00,610 --> 01:06:07,410 looking at here? It looks like there's a couple elements. Our cost is going to be 810 01:06:07,410 --> 01:06:17,570 staff time. Okay. And then the sending the PO to this vendor and the state 811 01:06:17,570 --> 01:06:24,370 reimbursing us via that PO. I don't know how finance does that. They just send 812 01:06:24,370 --> 01:06:32,950 the PO and when we get the money from the state, pass that on or if finance 813 01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:40,610 send the money first. I don't know how it works. So it's basically grant, this project is more 814 01:06:40,610 --> 01:06:46,170 less grant funded, correct? Yeah, yeah. The only thing we're doing is sending our staff time. 815 01:06:46,850 --> 01:06:53,370 Okay, very good. Other questions for Tyco? I think my only question is the Polk County IGA is just, 816 01:06:54,070 --> 01:06:59,850 you said I believe in just looking through it. Just the technical assistance because they're using 817 01:07:03,930 --> 01:07:14,550 because some of our information is outdated or some of the sports outdated and they're using the more current stuff so it's just technical assistance from them. 818 01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:25,030 Yeah, the the ormaps that the parts of fabric stuff is the same software but sort of a different program so it's used differently. 819 01:07:26,050 --> 01:07:29,950 So it just takes different tech, different techs to help us get a setup, right? 820 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:37,380 And I don't see any financial things in there. 821 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,640 So Polk County is just doing this to be helpful. 822 01:07:40,260 --> 01:07:46,600 And like you said, the cost for us is in that. 823 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,840 And for them it's just staff time, but there's no money changing hands. 824 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:51,940 Right. 825 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,680 Polk County is going to get paid, but that's all on their end. 826 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,020 Yeah, we don't deal with the finance on that at all. 827 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:00,420 Got it. 828 01:08:00,860 --> 01:08:01,920 I think that's all I have. 829 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:02,980 Pink, Roger? 830 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:10,220 Yeah, I have a question because I ran the discrepancy on page 178 of our over 200, one. 831 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:20,780 It says that services from ESRI to install and configure ArcGIS Enterprise 12.1, then you 832 01:08:20,780 --> 01:08:27,820 down to page 187 and it mentions version 11.5. I wonder if that's an error if I'm just missing something. 833 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:34,080 That's an error. It's taken me about nine months to actually get all the documentation together. 834 01:08:35,140 --> 01:08:40,040 I'm slow with this stuff and when I first started running it it was 11.5. Now it's actually 835 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:45,560 to 12.5. Okay, I just want to make sure we get that motion correct on that. So yeah. 836 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:56,020 All right. Other questions? I did. As you know, Taiko, I was back in New Orleans and had quite a 837 01:08:56,020 --> 01:09:01,600 quite a long several discussions with Esri about this. And they gave me some great ideas. And, 838 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,240 of course, I sent them to you and you like most of our staff is like, why do we send them these 839 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:11,760 conferences? I'm not the stuff you can do. So, Esri was there basically saying all the amazing 840 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:18,660 you do with GIS and all the stuff that counties are doing. So I thought I had some great ideas that I'm 841 01:09:18,660 --> 01:09:24,860 we'll talk asking FICO to do. Okay. Any other questions for Tyco? And if that do we have a motion? 842 01:09:27,950 --> 01:09:34,910 I move to approve the as required number PO22661 and the Polk County Intergovernmental 843 01:09:34,910 --> 01:09:39,970 Agreement to GIS services allowing the county proceed with both grant and funded projects. 844 01:09:39,970 --> 01:09:46,530 second. All right, we motion a second any further discussion. Hearing none, all those 845 01:09:46,530 --> 01:09:53,570 in favor say aye. Aye. Chair votes yes, unanimous. Hey, Taniko, before you go, is any, anything 846 01:09:53,570 --> 01:09:58,010 that we're talking about here is the public when they look at our GIS? Will they see anything 847 01:09:58,010 --> 01:10:04,690 different or will things change for them? It'll look a lot different. Okay. It'll run a lot 848 01:10:04,690 --> 01:10:11,650 better. Okay. The conversion part is actually probably going to be done in like two weeks. Okay. 849 01:10:11,890 --> 01:10:18,290 Um, it's going to take another good six months from me and Jamie to get everything converted over 850 01:10:18,290 --> 01:10:24,610 to where the public sees it. Okay. So the public won't see any changes really until about six months 851 01:10:24,610 --> 01:10:29,990 from now. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Internal staff will start seeing it before them. But okay. Yeah. There's 852 01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:36,210 And I just wanted to comment, I have used that map a lot in my reporting days, and I've 853 01:10:36,210 --> 01:10:37,490 thought it incredibly valuable. 854 01:10:37,850 --> 01:10:39,990 So any improvements to that are going to be welcomed. 855 01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:42,070 It's amazing. 856 01:10:42,690 --> 01:10:47,590 The system, I mean, many most counties actually have it, Esri basically was saying that there's 857 01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:49,990 not a county in the United States that doesn't use Esri. 858 01:10:50,150 --> 01:10:54,530 But it is a lot of information, and I think a lot of people don't understand. 859 01:10:54,650 --> 01:10:56,630 It's out there and don't understand how to use it. 860 01:10:56,630 --> 01:11:03,130 And sometimes I wonder, like, do we, if somebody goes on GS, is there something there that says, 861 01:11:03,130 --> 01:11:07,170 here's a quick tutorial about how to use it? Do we have anything like that, or is there anything 862 01:11:07,170 --> 01:11:19,730 like that available? Tyco? We did have a how to use PDF at one point. I think in the last web pages 863 01:11:19,730 --> 01:11:24,170 just redo that that file got lost somewhere. 864 01:11:24,930 --> 01:11:26,510 Be honest, it's on the list to do. 865 01:11:27,170 --> 01:11:27,710 Okay, cool. 866 01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:31,090 Well, he suggests is when you get, 867 01:11:31,250 --> 01:11:33,850 when you and Jamie get this ready to kind of roll out, 868 01:11:33,930 --> 01:11:37,370 could maybe we could you schedule some time here 869 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,870 and kind of roll it out to the commissioners 870 01:11:39,870 --> 01:11:42,310 and then everybody can kind of see it at once 871 01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:43,490 whenever you get to that point. 872 01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:45,130 Okay, we'll do that. 873 01:11:45,370 --> 01:11:46,090 That would be awesome. 874 01:11:46,370 --> 01:11:47,490 I would appreciate that, 875 01:11:47,490 --> 01:11:49,230 and I'm sure, what else are there? 876 01:11:49,370 --> 01:11:49,490 Sure. 877 01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:50,510 Come on. 878 01:11:50,770 --> 01:11:51,230 All right. 879 01:11:51,650 --> 01:11:53,090 Thanks so much for being there, Tyco. 880 01:11:53,210 --> 01:11:54,130 Thanks for the work that you do. 881 01:11:54,170 --> 01:11:54,690 Thank you, guys. 882 01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:55,550 All right. 883 01:11:56,350 --> 01:11:58,910 I'm moving on to our last item on our agenda day, 884 01:11:59,030 --> 01:12:02,350 which is the Waska County Landfill MOU Tyler Stone 885 01:12:02,350 --> 01:12:04,730 and some gentleman named Arthur Smith. 886 01:12:05,930 --> 01:12:06,830 Come on down, Arthur. 887 01:12:07,190 --> 01:12:09,370 He's the one in general's in connection. 888 01:12:10,250 --> 01:12:10,310 I think. 889 01:12:10,890 --> 01:12:11,130 Wow. 890 01:12:13,150 --> 01:12:15,470 I hope he wanted to take it any other way. 891 01:12:15,610 --> 01:12:16,510 It says you're lucky to me. 892 01:12:16,510 --> 01:12:18,990 Thank you. 893 01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:19,910 Good morning. 894 01:12:20,150 --> 01:12:25,970 I'll start this introduction on this particular topic. 895 01:12:26,690 --> 01:12:31,810 I'm not going to read you everything that's in your packet because it pretty well summarizes it. 896 01:12:31,970 --> 01:12:37,850 But what I will say is looking back over many years, maybe even decades. 897 01:12:39,450 --> 01:12:44,090 There has been a lot of conversation around five mile road and steel road. 898 01:12:44,090 --> 01:12:53,350 and truck traffic on that road and safety and there's been a lot of discussion about it. 899 01:12:53,450 --> 01:12:59,330 I know we've had conversations with ODOT about it, Commissioner Kramer, I think has had 900 01:13:00,710 --> 01:13:10,110 federal senators out there looking at it, Arthur has done a ton of work around this and so 901 01:13:10,110 --> 01:13:17,850 So what we're doing today and what we've been working on with waste connections is coming 902 01:13:17,850 --> 01:13:27,090 up with a memorandum of understanding essentially to work together to solve this long-standing 903 01:13:27,090 --> 01:13:27,650 problem. 904 01:13:28,370 --> 01:13:31,290 And so I'm going to say there's kind of two aspects. 905 01:13:31,790 --> 01:13:39,050 So there's an internal aspect which is an impact to Arthur's department with the roads. 906 01:13:39,050 --> 01:13:47,250 and our ability to maintain those roads and the longevity of those roads with this heavy truck 907 01:13:47,250 --> 01:13:56,370 traffic that we see going back and forth from the landfill. And so we spend quite a bit of maintenance 908 01:13:56,370 --> 01:14:05,850 money every year. Arthur, if my memory serves me right, it's like upwards of 50,000 years to keep 909 01:14:05,850 --> 01:14:14,590 that road at a level to be able to handle that. And I think panel are through talk about this, 910 01:14:14,710 --> 01:14:21,310 but I don't know that it's going to support that going long into the future, even with kind 911 01:14:21,310 --> 01:14:28,030 of our current maintenance area. And then the second piece of this is really external. So we've 912 01:14:28,030 --> 01:14:37,570 had lots of communication with residents that live on these roads with others around safety 913 01:14:37,570 --> 01:14:43,150 and, you know, the ability for people to navigate those roads when there's also big heavy 914 01:14:43,150 --> 01:14:50,470 traffic coming. There's lots of corners, there's lots of elevation and, you know, those all 915 01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:54,010 will lead to a conversation around safety. 916 01:14:55,010 --> 01:14:59,830 And then finally, the intersection at one night. 917 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980 7 and the challenges we have right there on a curb with truck traffic moving slowly as they're starting or stopping and the speed of folks traveling on 97. So, a lot of those things are not a good mix. So to speak. And so, but of the last few months, we've been talking with waste connections or partnered on how do we 918 01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:33,300 We, how do we address some of those concerns? 919 01:15:33,700 --> 01:15:37,980 And so what you have in your packet today is just a memorandum understanding. 920 01:15:37,980 --> 01:15:46,820 It's not a binding document by any means, but it it's setting out the roles that the 921 01:15:46,820 --> 01:15:54,820 county and waste connections will play in a discussion around how do we make this circumstance 922 01:15:54,820 --> 01:16:07,800 that exists today better for the landfill, better for citizens and a safer, safer aspect, and so that's what we're talking about. 923 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:21,580 One of those scenarios in this is potentially reciting a new private road into the landfill. 924 01:16:21,580 --> 01:16:35,620 So that would be taking all of that truck traffic off of five-minutes steel roads, or at least most of it, and moving that to a different access. 925 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:51,560 Obviously building roads is not a easy undertaking, because one, it's expensive to you, private land owners, and then three will want to make those conditions better than what they are. 926 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:59,800 today. And so that's one of the scenarios that we're talking about is how do we set a different 927 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:06,080 access to get that truck traffic off. And that's going to take a lot of work by both waste connections 928 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:16,240 and Arthur in the public works department to be able to do that. And then kind of my last caveat, 929 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:22,600 because I know the current chatter out there is going to say this is an 930 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:30,160 anticipation for 250 trucks a day from Gortland Harbor cleanup and I will say 931 01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:39,640 this has not crossed our radar screens for this particular project. This has been 932 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:44,100 a conversation that has been in play now for a number of years and it has 933 01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:51,060 nothing, absolutely nothing to do with Portland Harbor cleanup. It has everything to do with 934 01:17:51,060 --> 01:18:01,500 the safety on these roads and the road maintenance piece of it. So that conversation has been 935 01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:12,480 in the pipeline for a long time and this is what's in front of you today, normalizing that 936 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:19,940 That agreement that we're going to work together to try to solve these issues. 937 01:18:20,380 --> 01:18:24,120 And I'll turn it over to Arthur if you want to add anything to that. 938 01:18:27,170 --> 01:18:29,190 Arthur Smith, Public Works Director, Waska County. 939 01:18:29,930 --> 01:18:33,070 I guess it depends on what the commission wants. 940 01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:40,490 So this project, this is actually one of the first capital improvement projects I worked 941 01:18:40,490 --> 01:18:47,050 on my early career as an engineer tech one at Wasco County. So the design of this existing 942 01:18:47,050 --> 01:18:54,670 road actually started in 1993 and it was designed under 1993 standards and was finished 943 01:18:54,670 --> 01:19:01,330 construction in 1994. And then we had some floods and some other events. So as you can 944 01:19:01,330 --> 01:19:08,110 well-imagined. Which road are you talking about? 5 mile road. Sorry, 5 mile road. Do you 945 01:19:08,110 --> 01:19:12,070 start a design of the new road? No, this is the exit road. I thought I was 946 01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:16,690 existing. So it's this thing around. 5 mile and steel is actually in. So it's a 947 01:19:16,690 --> 01:19:24,830 93-94 vintage. Another standard design. It was extraordinarily good. But as you 948 01:19:24,830 --> 01:19:30,550 can well-imagined the size and capacity of vehicles now have changed and expanded 949 01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:33,090 And we want to get better and smarter and you add more axles. 950 01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:37,030 So anyway, it's exacerbated obviously the condition of the road and the capacity. 951 01:19:38,050 --> 01:19:44,530 The other thing kind of hampering it is, there is now a severely load limited bridge on 952 01:19:44,530 --> 01:19:45,810 the steel road side. 953 01:19:46,230 --> 01:19:53,110 So if something happened on Highway 197-5 on my side, you could not route those vehicles 954 01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:58,050 even in an absolute emergency because of the strict limitation that we basically have a 955 01:19:58,050 --> 01:20:03,250 one lane bridge and steel road, it could not take those 80,000 to 110,000, it's just not 956 01:20:03,250 --> 01:20:07,950 going to happen. So there's a lot of issues there that it's just been building over time. 957 01:20:09,790 --> 01:20:14,850 The existing intersection, I think we've met, I mean, we may have met 20 or 30 times with 958 01:20:14,850 --> 01:20:20,130 ODOT representatives of all shapes and sizes to look at the intersection. That hasn't gotten 959 01:20:20,130 --> 01:20:24,690 cheaper. I do remember because I was there after the floods in 96, we were kind of recovering 960 01:20:24,690 --> 01:20:31,310 between 1998 and 2001, I think we had five different meetings, and we actually proposed 961 01:20:31,310 --> 01:20:36,110 the county at that time, proposed the same sort of thing, a memorandum of understanding 962 01:20:36,110 --> 01:20:41,630 with the landfill to try to improve, could we at least improve the intersection, because 963 01:20:41,630 --> 01:20:47,030 the intersection, again, has been an issue for a long time, and at that time we were not 964 01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:52,730 able to come to any of the agreement, mostly because it had to be built to state standards 965 01:20:52,730 --> 01:20:56,790 with this and that and the other and had to be under boldly and it just killed the whole idea. 966 01:20:57,190 --> 01:21:01,950 So right now I think the price tag of just improving the intersection is north of 15 to 20 million. 967 01:21:03,670 --> 01:21:09,030 So we thought hey maybe we should look at because if you take that 15 or 20 million and 968 01:21:09,810 --> 01:21:15,050 perhaps use it in another area you know you might be able to get a better solution as opposed to 969 01:21:15,050 --> 01:21:19,930 just making improvements to an existing intersection and then still having the majority of the route 970 01:21:20,930 --> 01:21:26,890 unimproved. So I'm pretty excited about the possibility. It's like I said when you're 971 01:21:26,890 --> 01:21:35,290 talking about, when you don't have 100% control over acquisitions or building, it becomes 972 01:21:35,290 --> 01:21:40,450 something, it could never happen. So you guys know, this could honestly come to no fruition 973 01:21:40,450 --> 01:21:44,910 at all. But it's obviously worth pursuing. And that's where we're at. 974 01:21:47,150 --> 01:21:55,570 And for any of those who haven't stood out on Highway 197 in the morning watching the activity 975 01:21:55,570 --> 01:22:02,410 out there, it's something you should do because it's definitely a challenging intersection 976 01:22:02,410 --> 01:22:03,850 at different times of the day. 977 01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:10,530 And if you do wear your safety vest for God's sake, yeah, seriously, go ahead a couple of 978 01:22:10,530 --> 01:22:10,830 questions. 979 01:22:10,830 --> 01:22:22,050 I'm assuming that if this were to go through that the waste manager would pay for the construction or the county would build it or would they hire private contractors? 980 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:32,320 So what we're moving towards is this would be a private room or waste connections. 981 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:42,620 they would build that they were donate and it was maintained as well but to that end it's a big 982 01:22:42,620 --> 01:22:51,300 enough deal for safety reasons and for the reasons that are talked about on steel road and five 983 01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:59,520 long road that the county is helping right and so the county is going to take the lead in working 984 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:10,940 with ODOT. We are taking the lead and looking at different, I don't know, the right terminology 985 01:23:10,940 --> 01:23:13,560 is Arthur, but pathways for new road. 986 01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:21,640 Oh, and our design, yeah. So our surveyor is out there looking at the ground and the elevation and 987 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:30,020 working on looking where a suitable path to put that room at. 988 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,140 And so we're doing that work. 989 01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:40,760 And Arthur's certainly providing technical expertise as well as part of this. 990 01:23:41,020 --> 01:23:42,080 We're doing the design. 991 01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:49,250 I'm going to wait you answer that because I don't know how much of that we are aren't. 992 01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:53,330 Yeah, a lot of that will depend on what we can do in house. 993 01:23:53,330 --> 01:23:58,170 So, again, we're going to, there's some things that are easily in our wheelhouse, like 994 01:23:58,170 --> 01:24:02,010 coordinating with our partners at the Oregon Department of Transportation, I mean, things 995 01:24:02,010 --> 01:24:05,250 of that, you know, because there's access and ingress and egress offered to the state 996 01:24:05,250 --> 01:24:09,110 highway. We have to get anything has to be offered to the state highway. So that's, again, 997 01:24:09,170 --> 01:24:15,510 easy. It's staff time, things of that nature. Again, working with Brad Cross and Alex and 998 01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:20,510 even Ivan in the surveyors office to try to find different options that we could use, get 999 01:24:20,510 --> 01:24:25,990 from a safer point A to point B. Again, that's more staff time and we're willing, that's 1000 01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:33,850 kind of a, we're willing to conduct that. If it came to actual surveying or designing 1001 01:24:33,850 --> 01:24:38,050 or getting stamped engineering plans, I think that's a different conversation because I don't, 1002 01:24:38,110 --> 01:24:42,850 we do not want to take on that with our office, mostly because I'd probably have to hire a full-time 1003 01:24:42,850 --> 01:24:48,870 PE because then it becomes a much bigger project. And then perhaps we have liability as a result of that. 1004 01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:56,070 So everybody wants to be happy with the final product and it may be that what we think is okay, 1005 01:24:56,070 --> 01:25:02,050 may not 100% sooth the needs of which connections corporate or whoever, you know, so. 1006 01:25:02,270 --> 01:25:02,470 Okay. 1007 01:25:04,540 --> 01:25:06,340 All right. Jim, do you have anything? 1008 01:25:08,020 --> 01:25:13,900 Said you're there. Sure, Jim Winterbottom that I was disposal, which is a waste connections company. 1009 01:25:14,440 --> 01:25:19,880 I want to throw out a disclaimer. I do not work at the landfill. I work with the folks up there 1010 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,340 very closely and have been there for a number of years. 1011 01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:28,460 As Tyler outlined, as we look forward into what the future holds and 1012 01:25:28,460 --> 01:25:32,100 safely transporting material from point A to point B, 1013 01:25:32,860 --> 01:25:37,100 we are definitely willing to find out what it's going to take to do that. 1014 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,760 It is our landfill which benefits the region as a whole. 1015 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,380 And we want to keep it that way and stay out of the news, so to speak. 1016 01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:54,580 These conversations have been going on since I can remember 09, 2010, back then, had some 1017 01:25:54,580 --> 01:25:56,080 traction, but then it kind of went away. 1018 01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:02,080 So you know, involved our division folks in our region and they're definitely, you know, 1019 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:06,720 on board and we've had some good conversations with Tyler just willing to do what we can 1020 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:07,200 to make a word. 1021 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:09,140 Thanks, Jim. 1022 01:26:09,260 --> 01:26:09,860 Thanks for being here. 1023 01:26:10,420 --> 01:26:12,640 And then yeah, these discussions have been going on for a long time. 1024 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:17,580 I remember in talking with ODOT and other legislators because they've all been out there 1025 01:26:17,580 --> 01:26:22,640 on site watching the truck traffic and stuff, but even those processes, or maybe those 1026 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:28,020 processes would be, you know, as long or longer as well, just the process to achieve funding, 1027 01:26:28,380 --> 01:26:32,460 you know, from the state, you know, for improvements on Highway 1A7. 1028 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:39,280 We've talked about it many times and, you know, unfortunately, it's not the highest priority 1029 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:44,340 the state for us, it might be a really high priority, but in other parts of the state they've had other, 1030 01:26:44,340 --> 01:26:49,080 they have other safety issues that have multiple deaths and other things that they're trying to 1031 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:54,900 deal with and this situation is not that dire even though it's dire for us, so it's all relative. 1032 01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,760 Okay, so any other questions for anybody, anything else you have, Tyler? 1033 01:27:01,420 --> 01:27:03,040 You're looking for approval of this. 1034 01:27:04,860 --> 01:27:08,900 I don't have any questions, just a couple of comments. One is first of all, 1035 01:27:08,900 --> 01:27:11,680 Waste Connections has always been a very good community partner with us. 1036 01:27:11,740 --> 01:27:15,720 We have a good relationship work in several different ways with him. 1037 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:22,480 So I'm guessing this is going to be a good relationship going forward, 1038 01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:29,580 because it's beneficial to both Waste Connections and the county and just traffic as well. 1039 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:35,160 And I want to also reiterate what Tyler was talking about with the Portland Harbor. 1040 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:45,300 or while the time means might seem strange to some people, it's coincidental, clearly 1041 01:27:45,300 --> 01:27:51,920 this discussion about this road has been going on for a lot longer than the Portland 1042 01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,980 Harbor cleanup is talking. 1043 01:27:56,500 --> 01:28:04,400 So we want to, I've been monitoring that situation very closely, working with waste connections, 1044 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:11,620 working with the neighbors for clean air who have done some work up here and keeping an eye on 1045 01:28:11,620 --> 01:28:19,340 what's going on with that. And there's currently still no proposal or no requests for contracts, 1046 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:27,680 or no discussion between the EPA and DEQ, which actually do the work themselves. The work 1047 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:37,280 And the contracts are done by private entities so that the polluters have to hire somebody to clean it up and then they have to follow the rules. 1048 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,640 And there's just been no discussion at this point. 1049 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:50,580 So I just want to reiterate that but I think it's a great idea and something that I'd love to see. 1050 01:28:52,060 --> 01:28:54,360 that traffic issue resolved in the next, 1051 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,200 in the very foreseeable future. 1052 01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,080 I would say, how many years did you get? 1053 01:28:59,080 --> 01:28:59,800 Yeah, I thought so. 1054 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:00,700 That was good. 1055 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,180 Yeah, I didn't want to look at it. 1056 01:29:02,260 --> 01:29:03,980 I was sort of putting a date on this. 1057 01:29:05,980 --> 01:29:06,940 Okay, very good. 1058 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:07,320 All right. 1059 01:29:07,500 --> 01:29:08,700 Any other comments, questions? 1060 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,360 If not, I'll take a motion. 1061 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,320 I'd move to approve the memorandum of understanding MOU 1062 01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,180 between Wasco County and Wasco County Landfill Inc. 1063 01:29:18,180 --> 01:29:22,440 I think, establishing a cooperative framework to evaluate the feasibility of a private access 1064 01:29:22,440 --> 01:29:25,780 road and authorization in the chair to sign the agreement. 1065 01:29:26,140 --> 01:29:28,020 I enthusiastically second that one. 1066 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:28,500 All right. 1067 01:29:28,820 --> 01:29:29,640 I'll third it. 1068 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:31,340 Very good. 1069 01:29:31,380 --> 01:29:31,800 We have a motion. 1070 01:29:31,820 --> 01:29:34,460 Second, this is awesome. 1071 01:29:34,700 --> 01:29:39,320 I mean, obviously, there's a lot of people that wonder what we've been doing, but like for 1072 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,120 people that think we haven't been doing anything. 1073 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,060 Arthur's been at the tip of the spear, but we understand the concerns. 1074 01:29:45,060 --> 01:29:46,360 We understand the challenges. 1075 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:51,500 We understand all of it, and we're trying to find a solution, but it's not easy. 1076 01:29:51,620 --> 01:29:54,380 It's not cheap, and it's not going to happen quickly, but we're working on it. 1077 01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,500 So this is one good step in that direction. 1078 01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,980 Okay, if there's no other comments or questions. 1079 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,940 Questions, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Chair votes, yes, you name us. Thanks so much, gentlemen. Everybody that works on this. 1080 01:30:08,500 --> 01:30:29,760 Consider agenda. We do have a consent agenda, which has our minutes from our July 15th meeting. Did everyone have a chance to look at those? Any questions, comments? You want to actually, were you were you on board? You were not. What's not on board? So I can't vote on this. You can abstain. Yeah. I move to approve the consent agenda. 1081 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:42,820 All right, and I will second that motion. Any discussion here, you know, I was in favor say I abstain stay chair votes. Yes. All right, two votes for yes, one abstention. All right. 1082 01:30:44,180 --> 01:30:54,260 Why don't we go to public comment again before we go to commission calls or any public comment either online or in the room, anything popped up in your mind that you want to bring forward to the commission. 1083 01:30:54,260 --> 01:30:58,940 question. Steve? Do you have anything? 1084 01:31:01,390 --> 01:31:03,530 All right. There we go. There we go. Good 1085 01:31:03,530 --> 01:31:05,670 got it. Thank you. Go to my state of debt. 1086 01:31:09,930 --> 01:31:14,490 Steve, Ron Bell, Vasco County. Just a comment 1087 01:31:14,490 --> 01:31:24,630 on the grasshopper fire just so that citizens are aware. I believe a state and federal had 1088 01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:30,910 proposals on some forced fuel reductions that got held up in court by an environmental 1089 01:31:31,810 --> 01:31:38,390 agency that the taxpayers are paying those court costs for and now all those areas are 1090 01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:49,210 burnt so it doesn't matter but just so people understand that there could be solutions to 1091 01:31:49,210 --> 01:31:58,750 this that we come together with common sense and do things instead of just litigating things. 1092 01:31:59,130 --> 01:32:03,810 That's all I have. All right. It's a very good comment. You know, the forest, the 1093 01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:08,170 Blasco County Forest Collaborative, who we participated in. Lots of people to participate in. 1094 01:32:08,490 --> 01:32:13,310 Did work for a long time. This is one area that they had a big project that was going to actually 1095 01:32:13,310 --> 01:32:20,530 pull out both fire fuels and actual resource in terms of timber. Unfortunately they didn't 1096 01:32:20,530 --> 01:32:25,430 get to the point that they actually implemented the project or the the 1097 01:32:25,430 --> 01:32:29,170 ranger at the Duke Fire District was talking about this the other day and 1098 01:32:29,830 --> 01:32:33,750 it's unfortunate because we could have cleaned up you know if it had happened 1099 01:32:33,750 --> 01:32:38,490 we would have had taken out fire fuels it would have been less likely to be as 1100 01:32:38,490 --> 01:32:42,250 damaging and destructive as it is and we would have also got timber out of it as 1101 01:32:42,250 --> 01:32:46,390 well so that's certainly what the Forest Collaborate is doing and that's what 1102 01:32:46,390 --> 01:32:51,050 they are intended to do and that's a very good point though Steve. Thanks for 1103 01:32:51,050 --> 01:32:59,110 thanks for coming on that. Alright anybody else? Online? Raise your hand. Alright if 1104 01:32:59,110 --> 01:33:03,730 not let's go to commission call. Anybody have any fascinating, wonderful stuff 1105 01:33:03,730 --> 01:33:09,570 for us today? I've got a couple of things as a movie. I also want to signal out 1106 01:33:10,410 --> 01:33:13,350 former Commissioner Quaymon for the awesome work he did for the forest 1107 01:33:13,350 --> 01:33:18,090 collaborative for a lot of years. I mean, he was really involved in that. I also want 1108 01:33:18,090 --> 01:33:25,090 to mention something that's very important to me on the day where I was appointed. Merge 1109 01:33:25,090 --> 01:33:29,990 O. was in the audience and she had a statement she read. I asked her for that statement at 1110 01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:34,930 the end. It's now framed in on my desk. It's a very first thing ever got. It's going to remind 1111 01:33:34,930 --> 01:33:39,390 me to try to think like Phil Brady as well. So I want to be clear about that. I also want 1112 01:33:39,390 --> 01:33:44,150 to thank all the staff people who have been helpful with this fun-ling newbie to get 1113 01:33:44,150 --> 01:33:48,390 him up this speed, and the fire hose drinking is getting better all the time. 1114 01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:50,110 Thank you all. 1115 01:33:50,810 --> 01:33:50,970 Yes. 1116 01:33:51,210 --> 01:33:52,750 It's a lot, isn't it, Roger? 1117 01:33:52,950 --> 01:33:53,030 Yep. 1118 01:33:53,810 --> 01:33:55,890 Thanks for taking it on. 1119 01:33:56,230 --> 01:33:56,330 Yep. 1120 01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:57,490 Okay, Jeff. 1121 01:33:58,350 --> 01:33:59,570 Just a couple things real quick. 1122 01:33:59,730 --> 01:34:04,930 One is, right now, they're still planning today. 1123 01:34:04,930 --> 01:34:21,670 I'm going to run out to Ty Valley, there'll be an update and then perhaps a little bit of a change officially on the fire at least on our end on the grasshopper fire of the state fire marshal kind of demobilizing here. 1124 01:34:21,810 --> 01:34:26,570 That doesn't mean that firefighters are going away and they're done fighting the fire clearly it's going. 1125 01:34:27,430 --> 01:34:32,290 They bump that from yesterday to today because of the advancement to the west yesterday. 1126 01:34:32,290 --> 01:34:38,610 day. There's still planning on meeting today, but we'll see who it goes on. So I've kind 1127 01:34:38,610 --> 01:34:43,790 of been trying to stay abreast of that. Sometimes I wonder exactly what we do to 1128 01:34:43,790 --> 01:34:49,850 our suppliers here as commissioners because, you know, but I think just kind of stay 1129 01:34:49,850 --> 01:34:55,430 in up in the, I do want to come in the state fire marshal and when they put together 1130 01:34:55,430 --> 01:35:02,110 these teams, I mean, they bring in huge teams, just coordinate everything. But, you know, 1131 01:35:02,110 --> 01:35:05,950 when you're talking thousands of, well, 1132 01:35:06,210 --> 01:35:07,230 there probably weren't all there, 1133 01:35:07,450 --> 01:35:10,790 but a thousand firefighters on a fire 1134 01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:13,170 and trying to feed them and provide bathrooms 1135 01:35:13,170 --> 01:35:15,010 and provide showers and provide safety 1136 01:35:15,010 --> 01:35:16,350 and provide all that kind of stuff. 1137 01:35:16,350 --> 01:35:17,450 It takes a lot of coordination. 1138 01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:20,870 So, and to let the community know 1139 01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:23,870 and they really have their meetings down. 1140 01:35:24,050 --> 01:35:25,910 I know you guys have attended a lot 1141 01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:27,450 of the cooperators meetings as well 1142 01:35:27,450 --> 01:35:29,690 and just having those updates 1143 01:35:30,170 --> 01:35:31,750 and being able to answer questions 1144 01:35:31,750 --> 01:35:39,170 for public is important. So I appreciate that. And then speaking of fires, fair is next week. 1145 01:35:40,290 --> 01:35:49,130 And I want to assure everybody that that's fair. Exactly. The fair is on as scheduled. 1146 01:35:49,650 --> 01:35:55,190 And in fact, I believe even a community meeting held last week on Friday in 1147 01:35:56,410 --> 01:36:02,230 the state bar Marshall's office answered a question about the fairgrounds by saying they've 1148 01:36:02,230 --> 01:36:10,310 been working with us and know the dates of fair and are assuring that fair is on still 1149 01:36:10,310 --> 01:36:19,530 lots to do and lots of work being done but we keep an eye, we make sure everybody's safe 1150 01:36:19,530 --> 01:36:26,510 that I think I think smoke is going to be more of a concern next week than fire itself, 1151 01:36:26,830 --> 01:36:32,170 just depending on how long it burns up in the hills and where the wind blows that 1152 01:36:32,810 --> 01:36:39,790 that smoke, but I know for a fact that this won't be the first year that they'll be 1153 01:36:39,790 --> 01:36:45,950 smoke at fair and it happens and we work around it, but coordinating closely with 1154 01:36:45,950 --> 01:36:58,650 are big contractors and 4-H and everybody just to make sure that things are moving forward and so that's going well. 1155 01:36:59,130 --> 01:37:07,470 And then yeah, I think that's probably the probably all I have for today. 1156 01:37:07,470 --> 01:37:14,050 Okay, very good. I returned from NACO, NACO at their annual conference in New Orleans. 1157 01:37:14,690 --> 01:37:20,550 As I mentioned earlier, I did spend quite a bit of time with Esri. They had a lot of 1158 01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:25,130 presentations they made. It's pretty interesting about how counties work with GIS information, 1159 01:37:25,130 --> 01:37:29,390 because it's really becoming important. A couple things I found out. One was there's actually 1160 01:37:29,390 --> 01:37:34,890 something called the Living Atlas that Esri does. They have 14,000 layers of data. 1161 01:37:34,890 --> 01:37:40,790 We have, I don't know many layers of data we have, we probably have maybe 100, maybe 200, 1162 01:37:40,850 --> 01:37:43,530 I don't know, but they have 14,000 layers, so I want one. 1163 01:37:44,130 --> 01:37:48,650 Yeah, well, it's public, it's all public information, so if you look up living Atlas under 1164 01:37:48,650 --> 01:37:54,090 Esri, you can go and you can find all sorts of information that haven't mapped out geographically, 1165 01:37:54,610 --> 01:37:55,570 which is very interesting. 1166 01:37:56,690 --> 01:38:01,710 I also was able to meet with most of our big vendors, so our vendors, they have a big trade 1167 01:38:01,710 --> 01:38:07,010 fair at all these conferences. So a lot of the vendors that work with with county. So I met with 1168 01:38:07,010 --> 01:38:12,090 pretty much all of our vendors that were there. Also one of the ones I met with Tyler Tech, 1169 01:38:12,090 --> 01:38:19,230 Tyler Tech is one of our big vendors for our county systems, which was interesting because I also met 1170 01:38:19,230 --> 01:38:27,350 with Grannis, which is also a new vendor that's providing our system for public information requests 1171 01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:31,750 and had a discussion with both of them about that process, so that was a pretty interesting conversation. 1172 01:38:32,990 --> 01:38:36,750 And then also there was a lot of discussion about PILT and IRS, SRS. 1173 01:38:37,710 --> 01:38:43,290 So WIR, which is a Western Interstate region, which is part of NACO. 1174 01:38:43,770 --> 01:38:47,950 We talked a lot, there's a lot of effort continuing to go on in regards to PILT, 1175 01:38:47,950 --> 01:38:49,930 because SRS is expiring this year. 1176 01:38:51,070 --> 01:38:54,970 And so it needs to be reaped again. PILT, we want full funding for it. 1177 01:38:54,970 --> 01:38:58,790 So just there's a lot of there was a lot of meetings and a lot of discussion about that. 1178 01:38:59,050 --> 01:39:00,770 So that was overall was a pretty good meeting. 1179 01:39:00,850 --> 01:39:03,130 It wasn't as good as some of the ones in the past. 1180 01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:11,290 I mean, I just want to note for the record, excuse me, we have kind of transition on Norco. 1181 01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:13,210 So Jeff is now on the board. 1182 01:39:13,290 --> 01:39:18,290 I was back actually in New Orleans when that happened, but Jeff is now the Norco board member. 1183 01:39:18,610 --> 01:39:23,570 And I understand that Commissioner Weathers from Hood River is now the chair of Norco. 1184 01:39:23,570 --> 01:39:25,450 So congratulations on that. 1185 01:39:26,250 --> 01:39:30,730 I wanted to let you know that McKet has been working a lot lately, a lot of McKet meetings. 1186 01:39:31,090 --> 01:39:36,550 They actually had a big finance meeting where they worked with all the board members to kind of update them on the staff 1187 01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:39,830 because McKet has had a lot of financial issues over the last couple of years. 1188 01:39:40,670 --> 01:39:42,810 Earlier, it was coming up next week. 1189 01:39:44,190 --> 01:39:48,790 And I've had some discussions with the developer of Basalt Commons. 1190 01:39:48,790 --> 01:40:04,170 So it sounds like things are going well, there is some challenges related to an extension needed at at basalt at urban renewal, but they've they've actually achieved some key elements which are going to be very productive in that. 1191 01:40:04,570 --> 01:40:09,990 And then mid come via center for living as a board meeting next week, so there'll be lots of information that we get there. 1192 01:40:11,290 --> 01:40:13,370 And that's all I have. 1193 01:40:13,370 --> 01:40:19,230 I just want to comment for the, for the, that's how this is secure role schools act that was originally 1194 01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:26,730 passed in 2000 way back when and piled this payment law of taxes. So there we go. Yep, 1195 01:40:27,350 --> 01:40:31,710 acronym. Sorry. Okay. I think that is it. Is there anything else for the good of the order? 1196 01:40:31,710 --> 01:40:39,750 Kristen, Arthur, Mike Middleton, Tyler, Christine. 1197 01:40:40,790 --> 01:40:41,390 All right. 1198 01:40:41,470 --> 01:40:41,970 Anybody else? 1199 01:40:42,750 --> 01:40:42,950 All right. 1200 01:40:43,110 --> 01:40:44,070 Thank you everyone for coming. 1201 01:40:44,330 --> 01:40:46,750 We appreciate you participating in the government of 1202 01:40:46,750 --> 01:40:49,790 Wasco County and we are here every day. 1203 01:40:50,130 --> 01:40:51,410 Our numbers are out there every day. 1204 01:40:51,530 --> 01:40:54,410 If you have a question, Steve sends us stuff all the time, 1205 01:40:54,410 --> 01:40:57,950 which we appreciate and reach out to us and ping us 1206 01:40:57,950 --> 01:40:59,150 and we will try to help you. 1207 01:40:59,550 --> 01:40:59,730 All right. 1208 01:40:59,730 --> 01:41:01,350 Everyone have a great day. We are adjourned.