[0:00] Gracious heavenly father, we come before you this morning with open hearts and [0:04] open minds. Lord, direct us, guide us, use us to serve the citizens of this [0:09] great county and community. Lord, we pray especially this morning for the [0:14] school system, for all the teachers and support staff, the administration. Uh [0:20] today is a half day, the last day of school. Um Lord, we pray for the [0:25] students for their safety and well-being as they are obviously joyous that today [0:31] is the last for the summer. And Lord, watch over them, protect them, guide [0:35] them throughout their summer activities. Lord, we pray that um many good things [0:41] will become of of the students and our administration and our teachers. Lord, [0:47] watch over them, protect them, give them encouragement, and uh just bless them [0:51] throughout the summer vacation and all and time off for the summer. Lord, lead, [0:57] guide us here today. May we honor and please you in all that we do and say for [1:02] it's in your name we pray. Amen. >> Amen. [1:05] I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the [1:11] republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and [1:17] justice for all. >> Thank you. [1:22] With that, we'll call our meeting officially to order. And uh first on the [1:26] agenda is the approval of the minutes of May 5th. [1:31] » Motion to approve. Second. Okay, we have a motion and second. All in favor by [1:36] saying I. I >> oppose. Same sign. 5. Thank you very [1:40] much. Next on the agenda is comm is um commissioners reports and comments. And [1:47] Commissioner Wagner, you want to go first? [1:49] » Yeah, I'm going to make it short this morning. Good morning. Glad everybody [1:52] could make it. Um and u I don't have any comments for this morning. [1:56] » Okay. >> Thank you, John. [1:58] » Randy Leman, good morning. >> Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. [2:01] Um, in John's Prairie, we recognized the school students today. Last day of [2:06] school in Washington County. Wow. I'm sure our memories, all of us can go back [2:10] to that. How exciting that was. >> Water guns. [2:13] » I'm sorry. >> Water guns. [2:14] » Water guns. That's right. Water guns. So, um, uh, congratulations to the [2:19] students. Certainly wishing them a safe summer. Uh, and, uh, just a quick shout [2:23] out to the parents, grandparents, family members. Uh, let's turn off the devices [2:27] this summer occasionally and pick up a good book. Uh, I'm a big advocate of [2:31] reading to our our children. So, uh, that's my my tip for the day for the the [2:36] last day of school. Uh, I got to recognize a couple new Eagle Scouts in [2:40] Washington County. Caleb Ritter on June 6th, uh, Scout Troop 108, [2:45] congratulations on him becoming an Eagle Scout. Bennett Dugan on June 7th, uh, [2:49] Troop 66, another Eagle Scout. Huge accomplishments in these young men. Very [2:55] proud of them. And uh finally on June 4th um we had our 10th annual Washington [3:00] County Public Safety Awards. We recognized 33 individuals or instances [3:04] of bravery in Washington County. U it was incredible. It was just a a really [3:10] well done event. It was at fire station 12 in Fairplay. It was hosted by the [3:14] chamber and hats off to the chamber for once again doing a magnificent job of [3:20] recognizing our heroes in Washington County. Um that concludes my comments. [3:24] Thanks John. Thank you, Commissioner Parrot. [3:27] » Well, good morning, >> Mr. Ray. Mr. Ray, please Mr. Ray, please [3:33] sit down. >> I gave you an opportunity to stand [3:36] against them. You said public and then you back out. [3:42] » Mr. Rayak, >> you're out of order. Mr. Ray, [3:48] » please leave Mr. Ray. You are given an opportunity to speak. [3:55] » I'm gonna ask the deputy to remove Mr. Ray. [3:59] » Where public comment is not. Imagine. Imagine how the people that are voting [4:03] for you feel when you're afraid to even stand up against the very people that [4:08] they don't want to vote for. That's ridiculous. Off air. [4:24] Okay, good morning. Um, [clears throat] a lot of things that we can be thankful [4:29] for, especially we think about Memorial Day, which was the last time that we [4:32] were before we were here was before Memorial Day. And I want to thank uh our [4:36] staff for a great uh parade that they helped put on. They got the Boon Parade [4:41] and Shark Parade. I was able to be part of the the Boonboro parade. I want to [4:44] thank both towns for hosting such great events. Also at Halfway Park, we um [4:50] recognize Seaman Craig Wimberly and fireman Patrick Roy who were killed on [4:55] the USS bombing. Um and also members of [clears throat] the World War II Korean [4:59] conflict. We were to take those plaques and put them up. Uh I want to thank [5:03] Michael Boyd and the Tech High stu Michael Boyd Tech High students for [5:08] their role in doing this. Jim Klein with the Joint Veterans Council of Washington [5:12] County and our own Jamie Dick with the Washington County Parks and Recreation [5:16] and Sweeney Masonry for helping to make this happen. I think it's it's a really [5:19] good and nice memorial. If you have a chance to go to halfway where the pool [5:23] is, you can see where the flag is. It's right there. Really nice memorial. Also [5:27] want to encourage everyone to vote. Voting is very important. Uh we have [5:31] governor, congress, this board, the board of education. Uh, Democrats can [5:36] vote on their ballot, Republicans on their ballot, and unaffiliated voters [5:38] can also vote for the Board of Education. I encourage everyone to get [5:42] out and vote. Early voting actually starts this Thursday. Uh, goes for one [5:45] week, so June 11th to June 18th with election day on the 23rd. And of course, [5:50] if someone's would rather vote by mail, they could do that as well. And one last [5:56] thing I'd like to say is some really exciting events are coming up. Uh, July [6:00] 4th, you guys have probably seen this, but there's a big drone show and [6:03] fireworks. Thank our staff for working on that and I encourage everyone to come [6:06] on out and celebrate 250 years of Washington County. Thank you. [6:11] » Thank you, Neil. Mleine. >> Yeah. Good morning everyone. Um I too [6:16] enjoyed the parades and charts had and our county float was exceptional. So [6:22] thanks to the staff that created that float. Over the weekend I attended the [6:26] Humane Society of Washington County's luau was a fundraiser for the humane [6:30] society. well attended and some very um nice volunteers who commit to that [6:36] organization. I also um attended the Washington County [6:41] Chambers. Thank you for our first responders down at Fair Play. Uh I think [6:46] it was it was their 10th annual. It continues to recognize the sacrifices [6:51] and quite frankly every day there's a miracle in Washington County from our [6:56] first responders. Also was at Smithsburg EMS. They had a [7:01] ceremony of bringing in their new ambulance where they have uh people push [7:06] the ambulance in is sort of a tradition, but uh Smithsburg's come a long way in [7:11] partnership with the county. They're now a stellar organization out there. So, [7:16] thank you to all those people out at Smithsburg. And again, I did attend [7:21] Memorial Day ceremonies at at Tech uh at Marty Suck Park. We raised the plaques [7:26] off the ground for Craig Wberly and Patrick Roy and I think it was the 1940 [7:31] class of Hagerstown was also commemorated and I think Commissioner [7:35] Barl mentioned Sweeney Masonry Tech High and Jim Klein and our recart um Jamie [7:41] Dick and Parks and Rec who helped facilitate that project. Um [7:47] we do have another big event going on. It started this week. It's the [7:52] Washington County Ice Cream Trail. It's honoring our lo um 16 different ice [7:58] cream um establishments, locally owned, uh supporting small businesses. I've [8:05] been to about eight of them so far. And uh it's impressive to see people walking [8:10] up with their maps already in their hand. And I think there's breaking news [8:15] that someone's already completed all 16 locations within a week. So, I'd like to [8:22] give that guy an award. >> That's not good for your diet there, [8:24] Jeff. >> I'm doing fine. Um, but I want to thank [8:28] everybody for being here today. And that concludes my report. [8:34] [laughter] >> I got to pick on him a little bit. Um, [8:38] » thanks for the the help with the uh memorial the uh at Marty Snook Park. [8:45] Just a little bit behind that story, Jamie Dick from Parks and Recreation [8:50] approached Commissioner Klein and I together at an event and said how nice [8:54] it would be to get those memorials up off of the ground. They're covered in [8:57] snow. They're covered in dirt. It's very disrespectful. And he said the problem [9:01] lies with the uh students and the and the teachers at Tech High wanted to [9:08] help, but they needed a professional mason to help them and guide them and [9:13] give them the support. So, Commissioner Klein and I reached out to Nate Sweeney, [9:17] Sweeney Masonry. He graciously jumped on board. Turned into a very nice project [9:23] [clears throat] and hats off to Nate Sweeney and personally because he did he [9:28] he worked with the students. They did an incredible job and a nice ceremony. So, [9:32] » yes, it was. >> Y it was very nice again uh thanks to [9:36] Sweeney Masonry and Nate Sweeney in particular. [9:40] For me, there's a number of things the past two weeks. Um, and of course, I had [9:44] a granddaughter that graduated from Clear Spring High School. So, there was [9:48] an a senior awards night. One night, two nights later, there was a balariat [9:52] service, which I think a lot of schools no longer uh participate in balariates. [9:58] And then several days later, uh, was the, uh, annual, um, commencement at [10:04] Clear Spring High School. So, attended all three of those events. Um the John [10:09] Fry Awards was two weeks ago. Many of us were there. Uh a lot of nice [10:15] presentations uh for uh awards for rehabilitation of older facilities in [10:21] our community, both residential and commercial projects. Uh very nice and [10:26] well attended ceremony. And hats off to the Washington County Historic [10:30] Preservation uh folks because they they put a lot of work into that every year. [10:35] They take applications, they review the submissions and the things that were [10:39] accomplished and uh hand out some nice awards. Also attended the 10th annual um [10:47] honoring the men and women of public safety in Washington County which has [10:50] already been mentioned here. again uh some of the heroic stories that have [10:54] taken place in the past year by our first responders in this community u [11:00] heartwarming uh including some folks that have survived gunshots. So um it's [11:08] uh it was a very nice ceremony. One last thing that I have this morning and I [11:13] know we've been talking me myself personally uh pushing for water and [11:18] sewer in our community uh jointly with the city of Hagerstown. I know there's a [11:23] lot of folks that think we don't work together and uh we we are we're trying [11:28] to do better at that and uh how important water is for all the citizens [11:33] of Washington County, not just the the city of Hagerstown or Sharburg or Clare [11:39] Spring, Williamsport. what have you. It it is uh universal across our county and [11:44] our community. And I I follow Kippenser's letter uh religiously. Their [11:50] accuracy accuracy rate over the past 100 years is somewhere in the 90 percentile. [11:55] And this week uh I shared with our county administrator water systems note [12:01] rising worries about the condition of US water and sewer systems. Only 39% of [12:06] municipal officials rate their systems in satisfactory condition, down from 82% [12:13] just four years ago. It also goes on to say 18% of [12:18] respondents rate their systems not satisfactory, up from almost zero in [12:24] 2022. And in a new American Waterwork Works Association survey, respondents [12:29] five-year outlook for the health of US water and systems dropped to the lowest [12:34] rating in eight years. Upgrades require costly repairs or outright replacements [12:40] of aging systems as governments face rising construction costs and difficulty [12:45] securing financing. Other challenges for utilities, higher tariffs, supply chain [12:51] disruptions, more frequent natural hazards, cyber threats, regulatory [12:56] issues, and labor shortages. So, ladies and gentlemen, it is very critical that [13:02] uh this board and the succeeding boards of county commissioners, city council [13:07] folks, mayors and councils of the various municipalities. It is imperative [13:12] that we communicate, collaborate, and work to better our water system and our [13:19] sewer systems. So, that's that's my soap box for this morning. With that, I'm [13:25] going to ask uh staff comments. Michelle Gordon. [13:29] » Thank you. Um I also attended the Sharpsburg and Boonsboro Memorial Day [13:33] parades. I'd like to thank u both towns for putting on uh the parades for the [13:38] community. And I'd also like to thank our public relations staff for uh and [13:42] our highway staff for creating the float. Um it was a big hit this year and [13:47] uh received a lot of positive feedback from the community during both parades. [13:51] Uh I attended the John Fry Awards. Uh let's see. I also attended the new [13:59] burn building and fire training tower demonstration at the public safety [14:03] training center. We had a soft opening. Uh it's part of phase one at the public [14:07] safety training center at Tactical Village. This facility will allow our [14:11] firefighters, law enforcement officers, as well uh emergency medical service [14:15] providers and other emergency responders in the area to train together in [14:21] realistic environments to strengthen communication, coordination, and [14:25] decision-making. Uh, the tactical village provides our first responders [14:29] with the opportunity to practice critical skills in a safe, controlled [14:34] environment. I also attended the Memorial Day [14:37] ceremony at Marty Snook Park where the newly constructed stonework at the [14:42] Veterans Memorial was unveiled. I'd like to thank the students at TAC High uh a [14:48] uh AE Sweeney Masonry as well as our parks and rec staff for their hard work, [14:53] skill, dedication to honoring our local heroes who gave the ultimate sacrifice. [14:59] I'd like to thank our highways crews for clear clearing roads during this [15:02] weekend's weather events. I have one OMA opinion that I'd like to [15:08] read. Uh let's see. dated May 20th, 2026 20-175. [15:15] In this opinion, they addressed two complaints. The first asserts that the [15:19] county board engaged in improper closed sessions. The second complaint alleged [15:23] that the county board improperly removed an individual from an open session. [15:28] » [snorts] >> uh for the first session regarding [15:31] closed session discussions about responding to PIA requests. Uh this is [15:36] the latest in a series of submissions by the same complaintant alleging that the [15:39] county board improperly engaged in closed door discussion. In September [15:44] 2025, they issued an opinion addressing his allegation based on a record of [15:50] swipes of board members assigned key cards that the three members convened in [15:54] a secret meeting on February the 13th, 2025. [15:58] Because they are unable to resolve uh factual disputes, they could not [16:03] determine whether the county board met on February the 13th or whether the bo [16:07] board or the body violated the act. for the second complaint in opinion in [16:12] February 2026. The complainant now alleges that the [16:16] county board violated the act by discussing the PIA request in closed [16:21] session discussions in February and March of 2025. He says that he reviewed [16:26] the agendas for each of the four publicly disclosed meetings in that time [16:30] period and none he asserts indicated that the body would discuss a PIA [16:34] request or response in closed session. He further alleges that the top that [16:39] such a topic is not one of the reasons that a public public body may dis may [16:44] close a session under the act. Uh returning to the complaint before them, [16:48] they find that no violation based on the complaintant's allegation that the [16:53] meeting agendas did not reflect the county board intended to discuss the PIA [16:57] in closed session. Uh the act does not require the agenda to reveal anything [17:02] about what the public body discusses or expects to discuss in the closed portion [17:06] of the meeting. [snorts] Also, according to the board's county [17:10] attorney, um uh an inquiry of the county board in [17:14] relation to the PI request would have taken place in a closed session pursuant [17:19] to um certain exceptions. In support of this assertion, the county board has [17:24] provided copies of four written closing statements, each of which invoke the [17:28] legal advice exception. Uh we can say as an abstract matter that [17:33] discussions involving county board's questions about the county's response to [17:36] the PIA request and council's legal advice in closed in response to those [17:42] questions would fall within a legal advice exception. The county board also [17:47] provided them uh with minutes of the four closed sessions. dis uh sessions in [17:53] question. Closed session minutes were provided um in compliance with with [17:59] their request. They are unable to resolve this part of this complaint. [18:04] They stopped short of finding a violation because they cannot rule out [18:08] the possibility that close session discussions about the PIA involved the [18:11] performance of an administrative function, which is an allowable um uh [18:16] task that can be performed in closed session. When a public body performs an [18:21] administrative function, the act generally does not apply. Meaning that [18:25] any deficiency in the minutes would not violate the act. We have previously said [18:29] that a discussion about how to comply with the opens meeting open meetings act [18:33] as an administrative function because the act is a law that the public body [18:38] must consider and apply regularly. We think the same is true of the [18:42] discussions about responding to requests under the PIA. Because the closed [18:47] session discussions here may have been administrative, then we cannot say that [18:52] the county board violated the open meetings act by failing to keep more [18:55] detailed minutes of the discussions. We find no val violation here because we [18:59] cannot rule out the possibility that the PIA related discussions were [19:03] administrative in nation nature. We are unable to resolve this complaint. for [19:08] the second complaint regarding the removal of an individual from a meeting. [19:11] The second complaint which alleges that the county board violated the act by [19:15] removing someone from a March 17th, 2026 meeting. This meeting included a public [19:21] hearing on a proposed modification of 911 fees. The individual in question was [19:26] among several members of the public who signed up to testify about this [19:29] proposal. During her comments to the county board, she said that the fiscal [19:34] crisis that prompted the proposed fee moda modifications was due in part to [19:39] the county's lack of jurisdiction over a property that the federal government had [19:43] recently purchased to use as an immigration detention facility. The [19:47] board president called the speaker's name and banged his gavvel several [19:51] times. The individual kept speaking. President then banged his gavvel again, [19:55] saying, "You are out of order." The speaker responded that she was [19:59] addressing the proposed 911 fee increase and continued to read her prepared [20:03] remarks, interrupting the board president. The president banged his [20:07] gavvel several more times and said, "I'm asking you to step away from the [20:10] microphone." Staff apparently turned off her microphone, but the individual kept [20:15] speaking. The board president said that that's irrelevant to the 911 fee [20:20] increase. The board president said, "I'm going to [20:24] ask you to sit down or please leave." The individual kept speaking. The board [20:28] president then asked law enforcement officer to escort the speaker from the [20:32] meeting room. Based on this record, we find no violation of the act. The [20:37] general public is entitled to attend any open session of a public body, but the [20:41] act does not afford the public the right to participate in the meeting. Moreover, [20:46] that act states that if the presiding officer determines that the behavior of [20:50] an individual is disrupting an open session, the public body may have the [20:54] individual removed and despite several warnings that her comments were not [20:58] pertinent to the subject of the public hearing, the individual continued to [21:02] speak. We thus conclude that the county board was entitled to have the [21:06] individual removed from the meeting under 3-303C. [21:10] The county board did not violate the act by removing an individual from the March [21:14] 17th meeting. [21:18] [snorts] I'd also like to remind everyone that we [21:22] are having a 250th anniversary celebration at the A Center on July the [21:27] 4th. It begins at noon. It should end that evening somewhere around 9 or 10:00 [21:32] with the drone show. We have uh published uh the itinerary for the day. [21:37] Uh we also will have free transit service available from the transit [21:42] center located here behind our building to the a center in um on the Sharpsburg [21:47] Pike. Uh it will run about every four I think it's about every hour um taking [21:52] individuals back and forth between downtown Hagerstown and to the a center. [21:56] [snorts] Lots of events happening, lots of drone shows. There'll be lots of [21:59] vendors available to purchase food. We will have a kids zone. Um public [22:04] relations department, our parks and recck department and many other [22:07] departments in the county have been working very hard on this and I [22:09] encourage everyone to attend this event. Thank you. [22:13] » Thank you. With that, we'll move right into our agenda. Under tab one is the [22:19] ask me uh collective bargaining memorandum of understanding approval. [22:25] We have folks here this morning from ask me. Sam, come on up, please. [22:40] Good morning. [snorts] >> Morning. [22:47] » Morning. >> Okay. Uh sorry. This is a presentation [22:51] only uh signing of the memorandum of understanding between the board of [22:54] county commissioners and the Maryland public employees council ASME uh AFL CIO [23:00] and local 2677 the AFL CIO uh that was formally amended and approved by the [23:06] board of county commissioners on May the 21st 2026. We did have one minor um [23:11] adjustment that needed to be made um and we asked um our representatives to join [23:16] us here today so that we can have an official signing of theou. There's no [23:20] action that needs taken today since it's already approved. This is just a [23:23] signing. >> Okay. So, are we going to do the signing [23:26] [clears throat] out front? >> Yes. [23:29] » Great. >> Yep. I've got two original [24:08] We can all gather. [24:58] I appreciate [25:04] you. [25:28] picture. [25:43] Who's the last one? [25:57] » All right, everyone. Look here. [26:07] Thank you very much. [26:42] Michelle [26:52] right there. Okay. I'm sorry. [27:00] Okay, next on the agenda is under tab number two, youth meritorious award [27:05] presentation. Richard, good morning. [27:14] Morning. Morning. [27:20] Richard Lash, grant manager, office of grant management. [27:25] And today we are here uh to recommend an award. Throughout the school year, [27:32] the board of county commissioners present youth meriators awards to [27:35] students attending both public and private schools for those being [27:38] homeschooled in Washington County. The following individual has been selected [27:42] based on his elastic achievement, leadership qualities, community service [27:46] performed, and other positive contributions to their school and [27:50] community. It is my pleasure to introduce to you a [27:53] young man who embodies the very spirit of meritorious award. Grant Semler. [27:59] Grant is a senior this year just graduated from North Hagerstown High [28:02] School where he has maintained a stellar reputation as a true scholar athlete. He [28:07] is a standout left-handed pitcher for the North High varsity baseball team. He [28:12] competes at a high level for the traveling Hagerstown team Barrel Nation [28:15] and has already committed to continuing his academic and athletic career at [28:19] Concord University in Athens, West Virginia next year. But what truly sets [28:24] Grant apart is his commitment to service while managing a rigorous academic [28:28] schedule. He dedicates time to tutoring elementary students at Fountainale [28:32] Elementary. He understands that leadership means lifting others up. [28:37] Furthermore, Grant is a creative force. Over the past few years, he has [28:40] developed an expertise in digital media and production, earning a local [28:44] recognition for his talent. It is this passion that he will pursue his degree [28:48] in college. The future is incredibly bright for Grant and deserving a [28:53] deserving recipient for the youth mayor's choice award. I present to you [28:57] Grant Setler. >> Congratulations. [29:01] [applause] [29:06] Would Grant, would you like to say anything? [29:09] I think I'm good. [laughter] [29:19] » I'm honored on behalf of the county commissioners. Congratulations. I think [29:23] you know what this means. In about 20 years, you need to be sitting up here. [29:27] So, first of all, the coveted Porsche County pin that we all adorn every day. [29:34] and we'd like to present you with this certificate of recognition. On behalf of [29:38] my fellow commissioners, we present it to Grant Semler. We, the board of county [29:42] commissioners of Washington County, to hereby recognize you for the outstanding [29:47] achievement of being selected as a recipient of the May 2026 Youth [29:52] Merritorious Award, North Hagerstown High School. Your academic ac [29:57] accomplishments, humanitarian efforts, and extracurricular [30:01] activities are to be commended by both parents and students in Washington [30:06] County. You have proven to be a superior role model. We rec we congratulate you [30:12] on your achievements and wish you the best in all your future endeavors. [30:16] Awarded this 9th day of June, 2026 by the county commissioners. There's also [30:21] an envelope back here. It's for you. So, spend it on yourself. [30:30] [applause] [30:35] » Come up front. Parents, come up. [30:52] » We're going to let parents [30:58] You stand. [31:05] Ready. [31:14] Commissioners could join. >> Are we going out? [31:18] » Your turn. [31:23] No, [31:32] » that doesn't >> digital [31:36] artistic. He says in the digital >> he's [31:48] gonna pass everyone here. [31:57] » Thank you all. [32:04] » Oh, he does. [32:13] Are they really? >> Wow. [32:14] » Good for >> Thank you all. [32:31] » Okay. Next up under tab three is the annual report from the Tri County [32:35] Council for Western Maryland. Good morning, Elizabeth. [32:43] » Good morning, commissioners. Thank you for having me today. Um, I started with [32:48] Tri County Council about 16 months ago. I know Tri County Council would not has [32:54] not come to a commissioner's meeting in some time, but we just completed our [32:58] 2025 annual report and I wanted to present that to you. Um, as you know, [33:05] Commissioner Klene and Commissioner Leatherman are members of our 26 member [33:11] board and Tri County Council is an instrumentality of local government that [33:16] was established way back in 1972. Um we are uh authorized by state statute [33:23] and we also serve as a conduit to Appalachin Regional Commission funding [33:28] and economic development administration funding. So federal funding coming to [33:33] the region. The reason that that we exist for that purpose is so that the [33:38] federal government can ensure that federal dollars are being spent in [33:42] accordance with local goals and priorities. Um a few highlights in the [33:47] report before you. Uh, one of the EDA or economic development administrative [33:52] administration projects that was recently commit completed was the Bowman [33:57] Training Center. Uh, the ribbon cutting was last year and we were able to have [34:02] our council meet, Tri County Council meeting there in December to be able to [34:06] show that asset off to the region. [34:12] Talk about a lot of things in this annual report and I won't go into all of [34:15] that today. I will keep it brief. Um, but something that I'm particularly [34:19] proud of is our revolving loan funds. So, we lend to small businesses and [34:24] entrepreneurs in the three western Maryland counties. We do this through [34:29] various revolving loan funds from state and federal sources. But last year, [34:34] 2025, we had a banner year and lent over $4 million to the three counties and [34:40] $2,62,985 [34:44] was lent right here in Washington County. Uh towards the back of the [34:48] report, there's two Washington County businesses that are highlighted. 96 [34:52] Royal Beans down here in downtown Hagerstown as well as Everyday Earth [34:57] that's located in Booneboro. So, I'm happy to a answer any questions. [35:04] I have a few extra copies of the report that I will leave with Michelle, but I [35:09] thank you just very much for your time and your ongoing commitment. [35:14] Okay. >> Thank you. [35:18] Okay. Any any other comments? Just thank you. [35:24] Thank you, Elizabeth. Good report. Appreciate all the work that goes into [35:28] Western Maryland. Next up is under tab four is FY26 budget [35:34] adjustments to the Washington County Board of Education's general fund [35:37] budget. Good morning, gentlemen. >> Morning, commissioners. Jeff Pru, chief [35:41] operating officer, Washington County Public Schools. [35:43] » Uh, good morning. Eric Sysler, executive director of finance for Washington [35:47] County Public Schools. >> Commissioner, the matter before you is [35:50] the FY26 budget adjustments for the board of education's general fund [35:54] budget. Uh, as I tell you, each time we come forward, the annotated code [35:58] requires uh the local school systems to periodically reforcast and re-evaluate [36:03] uh any necessary budget changes. Uh to that end uh you have uh changes that [36:08] were approved by the board of education at its business meeting on May 19th, [36:13] 2026. Uh the one item I do want to highlight [36:16] the largest uh value on this item uh is approximately a million dollar transfer [36:22] from the category which is maintenance of plant which is our maintenance [36:25] department to the category for food services. Our audit firm, Clifton Larson [36:29] Allen, uh requests that uh any funds being used to support the maintenance [36:35] within the food service department that is being done by the general fund be [36:38] transferred to the food service category. Uh I want to make the [36:41] distinction this is the food service category of the general fund of the [36:44] board of education and not the enterprise fund which is the fund that [36:48] operates the food service department. Uh in this uh in this summer, we've uh uh [36:53] planned to do several improvements uh in in a handful of schools, adding [36:57] additional walk-in freezers to support growing participation in the food and [37:01] nutrition services program. And with that, we're happy to answer any [37:04] questions that you have. >> Questions, comments? [37:11] » Motion for >> Motion to approve the adjustment. [37:14] » Second. Okay, we have a motion and approve and a second for approval of the [37:18] adjustments as listed. Ready to vote? All in favor by saying I. [37:23] » I. >> Oppos. Same sign. 5. Thank you, [37:26] gentlemen. Commissioners. >> Thank you. [37:31] » Uh, Zach, do we need a motion to go in to Yeah. [37:34] » convene? Okay. >> Motion to to convene as the board of [37:37] health. >> Okay. We have a motion [37:40] » and a second. >> Okay. Second. All in favor by saying I. [37:44] I >> oppos same sign. Thank you. [37:48] Uh next this item is substance abuse uh lead uh let everyone advance with [37:55] dignity uh program. So Earl Stoner, you're up. [37:59] » Uh Earl Stoner, Washington County Health Department health officer. [38:02] » Hi, my name is Laura Sheffield Bishop. Um I'm the director of behavioral health [38:06] services in the Washington County Local Addiction Authority. Uh we are here [38:11] today to seek approval um from the board uh for a contract uh with the uh PTOIC [38:19] uh community services. Basically, it's to uh increase the amount of award that [38:24] we have with them for the um lead program. Um the new award amount will be [38:30] $18,480. [38:33] Uh there were we had an initial contract with them um and then we had leftover [38:38] money uh through some budget modifications and things of that nature [38:43] at the end of the year. So instead of investing that internally, we want to go [38:48] ahead and give $60,524 more dollars uh for that program um to [38:54] PTOI Community Services. [38:59] » I guess >> Oh, you have a question? [39:02] » Question. Yeah. >> Yeah. Go ahead. [39:03] » So, what exactly does the lead program do? What would this money go directly [39:07] towards? >> It'll go directly towards targeted case [39:09] management. So, the way the program works is um when police divert folks to [39:16] the program, they'll get enrolled into peer recovery services and then have a [39:20] case manager through case services and they'll get them like connected to [39:24] community resources such as like behavioral health treatment, uh like [39:29] entitlements through DSS, a lot of the basic needs that they need. [39:33] » And this has been very successful at reducing recetivism. Is that correct? [39:38] » That is correct. >> Okay. Within the last quarter, we only [39:42] had I think it was two folks out of 23 that violated probation. [39:47] » Wow. That's impressive. It >> is very Yeah. [39:50] I just want to also reinforce that 100% of the funding for this contract is [39:54] provided by the Maryland Department of Health Behavioral Health Administration. [39:58] No additional funding is being requested from the county. [40:03] » Okay. Motion to approve. >> Second. [40:06] » And we have a motion and a second for approval as submitted. All in favor by [40:10] saying I. >> I. [40:11] » I. >> Opposed. Same sign. 50. Thank you. Next [40:14] item under tab six is State Care Coordination. [40:18] » Okay. This is a uh request for approval of a contract uh to Care First Community [40:25] Health LLC in the amount of $118,000 uh for the state care coordination [40:31] program. Um this is basically a recovery support program. um obviously focused on [40:38] behavioral health, substance use disorder and um and mental health. Um [40:43] really linking individuals, providing supports for them uh in the community [40:47] and things they may need uh transitioning u to and from uh care and [40:52] those sorts of things. Um and from the fiscal uh standpoint, 100% of these [40:58] funds are also through the Maryland Department of Health down through the [41:02] Behavioral Health Administration. Just a curious question on all these programs. [41:06] How are the the people admitted to these programs? I mean, does [41:11] the health department do that? Are they referred or I'm just curious about it. [41:15] How do you find the people with the mental issues and the behavioral issues? [41:19] » So, we do a lot of one community partnerships and two a lot of outreach. [41:23] So, we'll do a lot of community events and I mean it depends on what type of [41:27] pro like which program. So the lead program specifically is more through the [41:32] police and that's more of our priority, but community partners can refer like [41:36] high-risisk folks to us as well. And then for state care, they have to be [41:41] either in um like an outpatient treatment or they're transitioning from [41:45] inpatient to an outpatient program. So we have a lot of relationships. [41:49] » So like Meredith could send somebody to you. [41:52] » Yep. That's correct. >> Okay. [41:56] » Motion to approve. Second. [41:58] » We have a motion and a second for approval as submitted. All in favor by [42:02] saying I. >> I. [42:03] » Oppos. Same sign. >> 5. Thank you. [42:08] » Next item under tab seven is uh Maryland Medical Assistant Assistance [42:15] Non-emergency Transportation Contract. >> Okay. This is a request uh to approve a [42:22] contract with AMVAN uh Incorporated, better known as AAA Transport, in the [42:28] amount of $1.2 million uh for the contract year of uh July 1st of 26 [42:35] through June 30th of 27 uh with two um consecutive option years. Basically, [42:41] this is for um individuals who are on medical assistance and it provides uh [42:47] non-emergency medical transportation to um providers and to care that they may [42:53] need. And 100% of these funds, these are actually federal funds that come down [42:58] through the state and the state um has uh local health departments, mostly [43:03] local health departments in Maryland, uh implement this program. So, there's no [43:09] county money involved at all. Any idea how many um transports that [43:16] » exactly? Hold on. All right. So, for [43:24] fiscal year 26 and these are one way, so obviously just uh double that. Uh we've [43:30] done 13,761 total transports. [43:35] majority of those being um taxi related because there's also like ambulance uh [43:41] transports and things of that nature but right pretty significant. [43:44] » Yeah, that is. Thank you, >> Earl. Do you get reimbursed in any other [43:49] fashion for those? Is there folks have to use their own dollars or insurance or [43:55] whatever? >> It's No, it's just being qualified for a [43:58] medical assistance program. It's uh federal money [clears throat] and uh [44:03] it's you know basically granted to each state and then each state implements it [44:09] in various and sorted ways but no there's no reimbursement for that. [44:16] So the 13,600 river trips um would that all take place through then through AAA [44:22] transport or >> AAA transport uh typically does [44:26] ambulance and wheelchair services then if I'm correct in my memory um they have [44:32] a sedan service that they sub out to. >> Okay. So it's all handled through them [44:38] but >> it's all handled through them. [44:40] » Gotcha. All right. Thank you. >> Yes. [44:42] » I misunderstood you. Sorry. Okay, we have a motion to approve. [44:47] » Second. >> We have a motion and a second for [44:49] approval as submitted. All in favor by saying I. [44:52] » I. >> Opposed? Same sign. Thank you. Thank you [44:54] again. >> Thank you. We appreciate it. [44:56] » We need a motion to go back in. I need a motion to go back into general session. [45:01] » Motion to go back in general session. >> Second. [45:04] » All in favor? I >> opposed. Same sign. Thank you. [45:08] » With that, uh, we're under tab 18. Is that right? [45:15] » Number eight. >> Eight. [45:17] » Yeah, they missed a page. John, you have to go to your honor agenda. [45:21] Where's >> Oh, yeah. There's a page missing in [45:24] there. >> Yeah, I'm missing a page. [45:27] » Okay. [45:30] Thought something didn't look right. Okay. Tab number eight. I'm glad I [45:34] called that out. Uh, Long Meadow Road and Paradise Church Road property [45:38] acquisition. Morning, Todd. [45:43] Good morning, commissioners. Do >> you need this bag? [45:48] » Todd Moser, real property administrator, division of engineering. Move to approve [45:52] the option agreement for partial property acquisition, including fee [45:55] simple for 13505 Long Meadow Road in Hagerstown and [46:00] approve an ordinance approving said purchase and to authorize the execution [46:03] of necessary documentation to finalize the acquisition. [46:07] One option agreement has been executed for the abovementioned property. The fee [46:10] simple acquisition is shown in the table below. Again, the address is 13505 Long [46:15] Meadow Road in Hagerstown. FE simple acquisition consisting of 827 square ft. [46:21] An acquisition cost $3,810. This partial property acquisition is for [46:26] a planned intersection improvement project. New traffic signal and lane [46:29] configuration at the intersection of Long Meadow Road and Paradise Church [46:33] Road is identified in the capital improvement plan. Are there any [46:37] questions? >> Yeah, I have a couple. Is this fair [46:40] market value? Have you had it appraised? >> It we have everything appraised. Yes, [46:44] it's appraised. This is fair market value. [46:46] » And has the property owner agreed to that? [46:48] » Yes, they have. >> Okay, thanks. Then I make a motion to go [46:52] ahead and approve the sale. >> Second. [46:56] » Okay, we have a motion and second for approval as submitted. All in favor by [46:59] saying I. I >> post same sign. [47:04] Okay, very good. Thank you. Next item under tab nine is Apple Town Road [47:11] property acquisition. Todd, again, Todd Moser, Property [47:15] Administrator, Division of Engineering. Move to approve the option agreement for [47:18] partial property acquisition, including fee simple and easements for 6137 Apple [47:23] Road in Boonesboro and approve an ordinance approving said purchase and to [47:27] authorize the execution of necessary documentation to finalize the [47:30] acquisition. One option agreement has been executed for the above mentioned [47:34] property. FE simple and easement acquisitions are shown in the table [47:37] below and the address 6137 Appletown Road in Boonesboro. Fe simple [47:42] acquisition consisting of 589 square ft. Easements 475 ft perpetual drainage and [47:49] 840 ft in temporary construction. Total acquisition cost is 1,100. [47:56] This project is for a culvert replacement on Appletown Road. Any [48:01] questions? >> Motion to approve. [48:04] » Second. >> Okay, we have a motion, a second for [48:06] approval as submitted. All in favor by saying I. [48:08] » I. >> Same sign 50. Thank you. [48:12] » Thank you. >> Next item under tab 10 is easement [48:15] donation for Mount Etna waterline project. [48:19] » Jason, interim director environmental management. Move to approve the donated [48:24] easement abandonment of portion of existing easement and approve ordinance [48:27] approving set acquisition and to authorize the execution of the necessary [48:30] documentation to finalize the acquisition. [48:34] The project involves replacing old water line that runs along Mount Antner Road [48:37] and tying into the existing water line at the end of High Point Drive on the [48:41] Highland View Academy property. Chesby Conference Association of 7th Day [48:46] Advent Highland View Academy have agreed to wave their right to just compensation [48:50] and donate waterline easements on their property. A portion of the existing [48:54] waterline easement to the east will be abandoned and the new water line will [48:57] run parallel with Mount Etna Road. The waterline easements are as follows. [49:02] Property map 59 parcel 35 permanent waterline easement consisting of 17,880 [49:08] square feet. Property map 59, parcel 165, another permanent waterline [49:13] easement consisting of 22,741 square feet. Are there any question? [49:20] » Any I'm sorry. Any idea the age of the existing water line? [49:27] » Uh, that's a good question, but it's been in the ground probably 50 years, [49:32] more. I mean, it's it's one that's been around for a while. [49:34] » I got you. Thanks. I guess of course Highland View Academy, [49:39] they've agreed to this. >> Yes. [49:42] » And did we make any promises uh for them to this? I guess just the fact that [49:46] we're going to probably redo these water lines. [49:50] » The these are water lines that they transferred to us. I I believe back in [49:54] the 70s, I could be wrong about that. Um so it's a direct benefit to them. So [49:58] that's why I approached them with a a donation in this case in waiver of uh [50:02] just compensation. >> Right. I think the academy had the [50:06] system originally and then we took it over [50:10] probably in the late 70s or early 80s I would guess and so it became Washington [50:15] County system. So we we basically taken over system now we're making [50:19] improvements as as needed >> and of course they pay water and sewer [50:23] fees. >> Yes they do. [50:24] » Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. We have we have a motion and a [50:29] second. >> Motion to approve. [50:32] » And a second. Okay. All in favor by saying I [50:36] » I >> oppos. Same sign. 5. Thank you, [50:39] gentlemen. >> Thank you. [50:41] » Next item under tab 11 is construction bid award shower road at Pini Avenue [50:47] intersection improvements. Scott Hobbs. Good morning. [50:57] » Good morning. Scott Hobbs, director of engineering. [51:00] » I'm sorry to say, but this isn't right. Ma'am, [51:03] » you hear that protest outside? [51:08] » Ma'am, you're out of order. Please >> sit down or leave. [51:13] » Ma'am, I'm going to ask you to sit down or please leave. [51:16] » Ma'am, >> officer going to have to remove her. [51:23] » Fair. [51:52] Okay. Good morning, Scott. >> Good morning, Scott Hobbs, director of [51:55] engineering. I'm here to recommend the board award the bid for the Sha Walter [51:59] Road at Pini Avenue intersection improvements contract to the lowest [52:03] responsive responsible bidder Roland and Company of Hagerstown, Maryland in the [52:07] amount of $417,525.50. [52:12] The county accepted bids on the project on May 6th. The project was advertised [52:16] on the state of Maryland's e Maryland marketplace advantage website and on the [52:20] county's online bidding website. Two bids were received as shown on the [52:24] attached bid tabulation. The project involves work on Sha Walter [52:28] Road and Pini Avenue, including construction of a concrete median and [52:32] auxiliary lane, grading, asphalt paving, pavement markets, pavement markings, [52:37] signage, and installation of traffic barrier. The project is a 100 [52:41] consecutive calendar day contract with an anticipated notice proceed in July [52:45] and a completion date in October 2026. There will be road closure on Perini [52:50] Avenue and lane closures on Shaalter Road associated with this work. Public [52:54] notices will be made and road work signs posted prior to the start of work. The [52:59] project will utilize available funds from the capital improvement plan and [53:03] total expenses are estimated at $497,525 and50 including the proposed bid and [53:09] $80,000 for other expenses such as inspection, testing, utilities and [53:13] construction contingency. Any questions? >> What was that? You might have said it [53:20] and I might have missed it. What's the engineers estimate on that? 425,000. [53:25] So, it's in line with the bids. [53:30] » Go ahead. Go ahead, Neil. >> I know we talked a little bit. How many [53:35] crashes have been at that intersection that we're trying to solve? [53:39] » There have been 10 incidents at the intersection in the last three years [53:42] with six documented as more severe crashes and three personal injury [53:47] crashes as part of that. And in addition, there have been a lot of near [53:51] misses. >> Many near misses. [53:53] » Okay. So, this is really a safety project. [53:55] » Yes. >> And I guess when construction begins, [53:58] would there be a four-way stop installed at Pini and Kraton? [54:02] » Yes, that's what we're looking at. >> Okay. [54:04] » Yes. >> I I think communication on this one's [54:09] going to be extremely important, especially with the amount of traffic [54:12] that goes in and out of the airport parking lot directly across the street. [54:17] That >> Yes. the same intersection. We're the [54:20] exit to the airport. So, there'll be constant communication with the public [54:23] and with the contractor dealing with with our staff and the citizens. [54:27] » A lot of people very unfamiliar with the area going into the airport to either [54:33] pick up family or whatever coming in and out on Allegiance. So, this is a very [54:38] troublesome spot. I know that for a fact. So [sighs and gasps] [54:42] hopefully during the construction there's adequate signage and uh [54:49] you know folks guiding and guarding the the tractor and trailers in and out of [54:54] that very dangerous situation. So >> with that, [54:58] » I just have a question. Then is mostly this night work or is it day work or [55:03] » we have it set up as day work and then uh depending on how the um some of the [55:08] traffic control works there may be night work at times but at this point in time [55:12] most of it's day work. >> So it's going to affect the airport [55:15] exit. >> Uh could you look at maybe doing more [55:17] night work? >> Yeah. [55:19] » Okay. [snorts] [55:22] » Randy, did you I thought you had >> I'm good. [55:25] » Okay. Motion for approval. >> Motion to approve. [55:29] » I'll second. >> Second. [55:30] » Okay, we have a motion and a second for approval. Uh, ready to vote. All in [55:33] favor by saying I. >> I. [55:35] » Oppos. Same sign. 5. Thank you. >> Thank you. [55:39] » Next item under tab 12 is Apple Town Road. [55:44] » Ma'am, ma'am, you're out of order. Ma'am [55:49] show up. >> Ma'am, I'm going to ask you to I'm going [55:52] to ask you to sit down >> and or re [55:59] » please. >> Ma'am, deputy, please remove her. that [56:14] box. [56:18] God [56:41] All right. One, two, three. [57:16] Okay. Under tab 12, Apple Town Road pre-cast concrete box culvert. Scott, [57:21] you're up again. >> Thank you. Scott Hobbs, director of [57:24] engineering. I'm here to recommend the board award the bid for supplying a [57:27] pre-cast concrete box culvert for the Appletown Road culvert replacement [57:31] project to the lowest responsive responsible bidder Gillespie pre-cast of [57:36] Chestertown, Maryland in the amount of 114,727.14. [57:41] The county accepted bids for the pre-cast concrete box culvert on May [57:45] 29th. The bid was advertised on the state of Maryland's emer marketplace [57:49] advantage website and on the county's online bidding website. Two bids were [57:53] received as shown on the attached bid results. The pre-cast concrete box cover [57:57] culvert would be scheduled for delivery this summer. Work is anticipated to be [58:00] completed by the highway department within two months from delivery of the [58:04] culvert. The highway department works on culvert repairs and replacements for [58:08] various projects each year. And this is one of those projects. And Todd earlier [58:12] presented some of the work with the property owners regarding this project. [58:18] » Okay. Motion questions. >> I like the way you're constructing it. [58:24] It's good. You get the whole thing built. Bring it in. Just stuck it in [58:26] there. That's I think an economical way to do it. [58:29] » Yes. >> So, I move to approve the project. [58:32] » Second. >> Okay. We have a motion and second for [58:34] approval as submitted. All in favor by saying I [58:38] » opposed. Same sign. >> 5. Thank you. [58:41] » Thank you so much. Next item under tab 13 is contract extension local [58:46] cooperative 2023-01 number two heating oil supply and [58:51] delivery. [58:58] » Good morning. Aaron Bner, buyer in the office of procurement. [59:01] » Andrew Ashelman, director of public works. [59:04] » The first recommendation we have is contract extension local cooperative [59:08] 2023-01. Move to concur with the recommendation [59:13] of the Washington County Public Schools to extend the contract for Washington [59:16] County government's number two heating fuel oil to the responsive responsible [59:21] low bidder AC&T company incorporated of Haggartown Maryland who submitted a bid [59:26] factor of 2395 cents per gallon for tank wagon deliveries. Washington County [59:33] government, the city of Haggertown, Haggertown Community College, the [59:37] Washington County Free Library, the Washington County Health Department, and [59:41] Washington County Public Schools cooperative cooperatively bid heating [59:45] fuel requirements. On Wednesday, April 22nd, 2026, the Washington County Public [59:50] Schools extended its contract for tank wagon loads and transport loads to the [59:55] responsive responsible bidder AC&T Company Incorporated of Hagerstown, [1:00:00] Maryland. The contract was originally awarded by Washington County Public [1:00:04] Schools on August 16, 2022 through a competitively bid process and approved [1:00:10] for use by the county by the board of county commissioners of Washington [1:00:13] County on September 13, 2022. The extension period is effective August [1:00:19] 1st, 2026 and ending November 30th, 2026. This is an extension rather than a [1:00:26] renewal due to the Washington County Office of Procurement taking the lead on [1:00:30] combining both heating fuel and gasoline and diesel fuel deliveries into a single [1:00:34] annual bid. These services are being combined to ensure a more efficient [1:00:39] competitive bidding procedure. This competitive bid process will continue to [1:00:43] be a cooperative contract for services for Washington County government, the [1:00:47] city of Hagerstown, Hagerstown Community College, Washington County Free Library, [1:00:53] the Washington County Health Department, and Washington County Public Schools [1:00:57] with Washington County government assuming the primary leadership role. [1:01:01] The goal is to maintain collaboration between all parties while optimizing [1:01:05] procurement for these essential services and funds are budgeted as required by [1:01:10] the individual using departments and agencies for this service. [1:01:15] » Okay, any questions? >> Except one, how many bids did you [1:01:19] receive for this one? Washington County Public Schools was the [1:01:24] original um lead on the procurement and I don't know the answer to that [1:01:31] question, but I can get it for you. >> That'd be good. And it's not just one, [1:01:36] right? >> I wouldn't think there was just one. No, [1:01:39] » I'd like to hold it until we know how many other bids there were. [1:01:44] » This is strictly an extension. Correct. >> Correct. It it's essentially to align [1:01:48] the bids up because we're taking the heating fuel bid which was previously [1:01:53] one bid and diesel and gas is another. >> So between the county and the school [1:01:58] board taking the lead, we want to do an extension so that we can align the end [1:02:03] dates of those terms up and do one larger bulk bid. [1:02:07] » So it's an extension to align those dates up. [1:02:10] » So we've already had this contract. >> We've already done that and that was the [1:02:13] date, you know, 2022 that was awarded. So, we're just extending that a little [1:02:17] bit longer in the contract term to align those bids up. [1:02:20] » That sounds good. Thank you. >> So, in November, we're there. [1:02:24] » Correct. It'll be one larger bulk bid where we'll do them together. [1:02:27] » Yeah. Our current gasoline and diesel fuel um competitive bid that we did last [1:02:32] year is an annual bid and that one ends November 30th. So, we're just aligning [1:02:37] them >> like [1:02:40] Thank you. >> Okay. [1:02:42] » I make motion to approve. >> Okay. Second. Okay. Okay, we have a [1:02:45] motion and second. Ready to vote. All in favor by saying I [1:02:49] » oppos. Same sign. 5. Thank you. Next item under contract. Yeah. Under tab 14 [1:02:55] is the contract renewal PUR1611 janitorial services for Washington [1:03:01] County. >> Karen Bner, buyer in the office of [1:03:04] procurement. >> Danny Hixon, deputy director, buildings [1:03:07] facilities. >> The second recommendation we have is [1:03:09] contract renewal PUR611. Move to renew the contract for [1:03:14] janitorial services for Washington County office buildings under option [1:03:18] number one with Jasso Maintenance LLC of Rockville, Maryland based on its letter [1:03:23] dated April 27th, 2026 requesting a 5% increase for fiscal year 27. The last [1:03:30] request for an increase was made in fiscal year 2025. [1:03:34] On August 8th, 2023, the board originally awarded a contract for the [1:03:38] subject services to Jaso Maintenance LLC in the total annual amount of $285,118 [1:03:46] for eight locations. The term of the contract is for a one-year period that [1:03:50] commenced on August 8, 20th, 2023 with an option by the county to renew for up [1:03:56] to four additional consecutive one-year periods. This is the third of four [1:04:00] one-year optional renewals of the contract. The county reserves the right [1:04:04] to accept or reject any request for renewal by the bidder and any increase [1:04:08] in monthly costs for each specified building. Funds are budgeted for these [1:04:12] services within each using department's FY27 operating budget account under [1:04:17] maintenance services. [1:04:23] » Okay, any questions? >> Yeah, I guess when was the last time we [1:04:26] increased the amount? It was in fiscal year 25 and at that time it was a 7% [1:04:32] increase that they requested. >> So we're going quite a bit above the [1:04:36] rate of inflation, right? 7% last year and now it's 5%. [1:04:40] » 7% was in 25. So that was two years ago. >> Oh, so this is two years. All right. Two [1:04:45] years ago. Yeah, >> we're a little bit less than inflation [1:04:47] for this time. All right. Thank you. >> A motion to approve. [1:04:54] » Second. >> Okay. We have a motion and a second for [1:04:56] approval as submitted. All in favor by saying I [1:04:58] » I >> I [1:04:59] » opposed. Same sign. >> 5. Thank you. [1:05:03] » Next item under tab 15, soul source procurement compatibility purchase 1828, [1:05:10] electronic door controls and intercom system upgrade at the Washington County [1:05:15] Detention Center. >> Karen Begner, buyer in the office of [1:05:18] procurement. >> Terry Hill, senior systems mechanic, [1:05:21] Washington County Sheriff's Office. The third recommendation we have is a soul [1:05:25] source procurement for compatibility PUR1828. [1:05:30] Move to authorize a soul source procurement for the electronic door [1:05:34] control and intercom system upgrade at the Washington County Detention Center [1:05:38] in the amount of $255,000 from McGomery Technology Systems LLC of [1:05:44] Greenville, Alabama. The Sheriff's Office wishes to apply sections [1:05:48] 1-106.2A1 to A1 and two of the code of local [1:05:53] public laws of Washington County, Maryland to the procurement requested. [1:05:57] These sections state that a sole source procurement is authorized and [1:06:01] permissible when number one, only one source exists that meets the county's [1:06:06] requirements and number two, the compatibility of equipment, accessories, [1:06:11] or replacement parts is par is the paramount consideration. [1:06:16] This request requires the approval of four of the five commissioners in order [1:06:20] to proceed with a soul source procurement. [1:06:23] This purchase is direct from the manufacturer of the current system in [1:06:26] place at the detention center. The current system requires an upgrade and [1:06:30] the integration and addition of the female housing unit to the existing [1:06:34] system. The current system has components that are now obsolete [1:06:38] requiring an upgrade. With the integration of the new equipment coming [1:06:41] directly from the manufacturer of the existing equipment, there will be no [1:06:45] downtime of this critical security system during the upgrade, nor will [1:06:49] there be any training required. This manufacturer is the sole source of this [1:06:53] program and technology. Funds are available in the department's CIP budget [1:06:59] BL089 for this purchase. [1:07:04] Okay, >> questions. If you were going to install [1:07:07] a whole new door, like not go with the same company, about how much would that [1:07:10] be? >> System had documented that. [1:07:13] » We had we had quote we had bid this out several years ago. One one quote was 450 [1:07:20] couple thousand. Um the other one was 575. [1:07:25] Memory serves me right. This has been seven years since we last bid this. Um [1:07:29] MTI has been in our institution for nearly 30 years. Um, we did one upgrade [1:07:36] of the peripherals. Now we're doing actually female housing is not [1:07:40] integrated into our master control system, which is what we did seven years [1:07:44] ago. We were not able to control our entire facility from central control [1:07:49] initially. Um, and we we are able to do that now. Now we want to add um female [1:07:55] housing so that we do have total control from one location if an event would [1:07:59] happen that we would need to take full control of the entire facility from a [1:08:03] centralized secure location. Number one um and number two the peripherals that [1:08:09] we do have we're going to keep in place. Um we there's no need to change those at [1:08:13] this point. We'll be adding one monitor in female housing, a second control [1:08:17] center in SE central control itself, and then the core itself is just antiquated. [1:08:24] So the core they'll be upgrading into the new dragonfly system, and um we'll [1:08:29] just keep on moving forward. >> How many years do you think this would [1:08:32] buy you using the same system? I wouldn't I mean I wouldn't personally [1:08:38] wouldn't know the technology but I mean based on what we have now I mean our [1:08:42] course over 30 years old so if that's an indicator of how successful this company [1:08:48] has been with their product and with their support um they've given us [1:08:52] excellent support over the years. We've had little to no downtime with really [1:08:57] the entire system ever. So that's it's um it's been a good relationship and a [1:09:03] good product. Very good. Thank you. [1:09:07] » Okay, have a motion. >> Motion to approve. [1:09:11] » Second. >> We have a motion and a second for [1:09:13] approval as submitted. All in favor by saying I. [1:09:16] » I. >> 5. Thank you. [1:09:20] » Thank you, Secretary. Thank uh next item under tab 16 contract award PUR1 1815 [1:09:27] local care team coordinator >> Karen Bner buyer in the office of [1:09:32] procurement. Richard Lesh, grant manager, office of grant management. [1:09:36] » The last recommendation we have is contract award PUR1815. [1:09:40] Move to award the contract for the local care team coordinator to the responsible [1:09:44] proposer with the responsive proposal. The purpose of the service to be [1:09:49] provided is to fulfill crime prevention, youth, and victim services. The award of [1:09:53] funds for local care team coordinator shall commence upon receipt of a fully [1:09:57] executed contract between the board of county commissioners of Washington [1:10:00] County and the awarded vendor. The awarded contract shall expire on June [1:10:05] 30th, 2027 with an option to renew up to two consecutive one-year periods through [1:10:10] 2029. Notice of the request for proposal was [1:10:14] advertised on UNA, the county's online bidding website, and on the state's e [1:10:19] Maryland marketplace advantage website. 18 individuals, companies, or bidous [1:10:24] downloaded the RFP document from the county's website. Proposals were [1:10:28] received from two firms. The qualifications and experience submittals [1:10:33] were evaluated and one was considered to be responsive. Therefore, the price [1:10:37] proposal of that firm was then opened and evaluated. The committee deemed the [1:10:42] other firm to be non-responsive due to the lack of experience with child [1:10:45] placement systems and special education, which was a requirement in the request [1:10:50] for proposal. Therefore, this firm's pricing proposal was not opened. Funding [1:10:55] from the Maryland Governor's Office for Children in the amount of $58,789 [1:11:01] is available. [1:11:06] » Okay, any questions? >> Motion to approve. [1:11:11] » Second. >> Okay, we have a motion and second for [1:11:14] approval as submitted. All in favor by saying I. [1:11:17] » I post. Same sign. 5. Thank you. Next, next item under tab 17 is bid rejection [1:11:27] purchase 1,800 hauling recycling of scrap tires from the 40 west landfill. [1:11:35] » Morning, commissioners. Brandy Kentner, director, the office of procurement. [1:11:40] » David Mason, interim director environmental management. [1:11:43] » The first recommendation I have for you this morning actually does have a [1:11:46] correction. This will be a bid rejection and contract award for PUR 1800. Move to [1:11:52] take action in the best interest of the county and to request that the bid for [1:11:56] the hauling of scrap tires from BO1 of Bethesda out of Gaithersburg, Maryland [1:12:01] be rejected without prejudice due to the vendor not being able to honor the [1:12:04] prices that they did submit. The second um part of this is we would [1:12:10] like to move to award the bid to the next low bidder Panda Trucks out of [1:12:13] Haggartown, Maryland for a total sum of $108,795 [1:12:19] for a one year tentatively beginning July 1st, 2026 with the option for the [1:12:24] county to renew up to three consecutive one-year periods. The county does not [1:12:28] guarantee a minimum or maximum number of calls nor quantity of materials under [1:12:32] this contract. The project's scope is to remove uh for the removal and recycling [1:12:37] of tires periodically as required and requested by Washington County's solid [1:12:42] waste department. The bid was advertised on the state of Maryland's e-marland [1:12:46] marketplace advantage website, the county's new online bidding website. [1:12:50] Seven vendors did download the document and we did receive two bids. Funds are [1:12:55] available in the department's operating budget. And just a little history, in [1:12:59] 2025, uh the total cost of that contract was [1:13:04] $28,697.50. [1:13:07] In 2024, it was $20,250.14. [1:13:12] » This references a bib tabulation matrix as an attachment, but we don't have [1:13:16] that. Do you have that so that I can >> I do I can send that to all of you? You [1:13:20] want a copy? >> Yeah, let me make a copy for the [1:13:22] commissioners. >> My apologies. I thought that was on [1:13:24] there. [1:13:32] Okay. So, we're waiting. Um, what was the original price for Bowanda Bethesda [1:13:36] that they can't honor? >> It's on the bid tabulation. [1:13:38] » It was uh for the small tires $195 a ton and for the large tires $260 a ton. [1:13:46] » And what's the new one that we're trying to to accept today? [1:13:51] » Uh, for small tires, $284.95 per ton. And for large tires, $395 [1:13:57] per ton. >> So, it's a lot more. Did the um bio one [1:14:01] of Bethesda give new prices? Did they do a bid to to stay on or [1:14:07] » they didn't quite understand what the contract was asking? So they the bid [1:14:11] that they put in my understanding was for the hauling of tires. Then they [1:14:15] wanted to charge us an additional amount for the recycling [1:14:19] » where our contract specifically says all prices should include hauling and [1:14:24] recycling of tires. So they just did not understand it. They could not honor [1:14:28] their price. So they asked to withdraw their bid [1:14:32] » and they don't get the opportunity to modify their bid once it's submitted. [1:14:36] That's their final bid. they have an opportunity to ask all questions for a [1:14:39] period of two weeks. So, we don't allow for modification, [1:14:43] » right? So, we didn't go back out to rebid it once they fell through. We went [1:14:49] with the existing bids that we had. >> Yeah. The other the next bid that came [1:14:53] in was from Panda, which we're asking to accept. [1:14:56] » Okay. >> And we checked with them. They are good [1:14:58] with their pricing. They understand exactly what's what's expected through [1:15:03] the bid. So, they are good. Panda's pretty much in line with the last two [1:15:08] years. Like I said, their yearly quote was 27,198 [1:15:13] and last year was 28,000. So, it's pretty much in line. [1:15:17] » Great. Thank you. >> And because it wasn't attached, I'd like [1:15:20] to if I can read into the record for their for the viewers that are here. PR [1:15:26] 1800 hauling of scrap tires. Line number one description part one mixed auto and [1:15:31] truck. uh less than 24in rims, removal, recycling, disposal. Uh tire estimates [1:15:38] are based on scale records from July 2022 through June 2025. Quantity 65 [1:15:44] tons. Uh for Bowen Bethesda, the bid was a unit price of $195 [1:15:52] extended to 20 thou 12,675. For Panda Trucks LLC, that unit price [1:15:58] was $284.75 extended to $18,50875. [1:16:04] For line number two, which is part two, agricultural equipment greater than 24in [1:16:09] rim removal recycling disposal of one tire, estimates are based on scale [1:16:14] records from July 2022 through June 2025, 22 tons. For Bio1 of Bethesda, [1:16:22] the unit price is $260 extended to $5,200 I'm sorry, $5,720. [1:16:28] For Panda Trucks, the uh unit price is 395,000, [1:16:33] I'm sorry, 395 extended to $8,690. Total bid price for Bowen of Bethesda is [1:16:39] $18,395 and Panda Trucks is 27,19875. [1:16:46] Yeah, it seems like to me for the sake of it's a one-year contract, it starts [1:16:50] July 1st, right? >> And we have an option to renew the next [1:16:55] year. >> Yes. [1:16:56] » So that would if this contract if we wouldn't accept it, then you'd have [1:17:00] nobody to do tires July 1st. >> Correct. [1:17:03] » For that reason, I'll motion to approve for a year [1:17:08] » for one year or for the term of the contract. It's one-year contract [1:17:12] starting >> and we could renew it up to three [1:17:14] consecutive one-year periods. >> So, the term of the contract, [1:17:17] » can you renew it without coming back? >> We do renew without coming back unless [1:17:22] they ask for a price increase. >> Okay. [1:17:27] » However, if you'd like it to be rebid next year, it would be a one-year [1:17:30] [clears throat] you would you would make a motion for a one-year contract. [1:17:34] Now, we do take the chance if we go back and tell them it's a one-year contract, [1:17:37] they could possibly not honor their prices and pull their their bid. [1:17:42] » Okay. [1:17:45] » We only accept tires from in county. Is that correct? [1:17:49] » Correct. >> And we collect a fee for each one of [1:17:52] those tires that we receive. >> Correct. [1:17:55] » I would keep the motion as approved because we have to have something by [1:17:58] July 1st or you're going to have tires everywhere. [1:18:01] » Is that correct, Dave? Well, we could still collect them. We would just they'd [1:18:04] just be piling up at the at the landfill. [1:18:07] » A motion to approve as submitted as presented. [1:18:11] » Second. Okay. We have a motion to second for as submitted. Do we want to do this [1:18:16] in two parts? The rejection of the first. [1:18:18] » Yes. >> Let's sign. [1:18:20] » Yeah, it's a motion to reject the first contract. [1:18:22] » Okay. Do we have a second on that? All in favor by saying I [1:18:25] » I same sign. 5 for the rejection. Now we have a a motion and a second [1:18:31] » discussion >> for for the the new contract [snorts] [1:18:36] » and discuss. Did they have a a third? I mean I see these two. Was there a third [1:18:40] bid? >> No, [1:18:41] » these were the only two biders. >> Correct. [1:18:44] » And who was the vendor last year? >> Emanuel Tire out of Baltimore. [1:18:48] » And they didn't >> they did not bid this year. I don't know [1:18:50] why. >> And you said last year was 28,000 total. [1:18:56] So this is actually a little bit under. >> Yeah. And the the bid is an estimate. We [1:19:00] just give them an estimate number of tires. [1:19:03] » And this is self-supporting. The user fee would be passed on to whoever is [1:19:07] bringing in the tires. >> Yeah. We have we have set fees for for [1:19:11] bringing in, you know, what we charge the customers, [1:19:13] » right? And that's not going to change. [snorts] [1:19:17] » Good. Thanks. >> Okay. We're ready. Do we get a second? [1:19:21] » We already have a second. Okay. Ready to vote? All in favor by saying I. I [1:19:26] » post same sign 50. Thank you. >> Thank you. [1:19:29] » Okay. >> To explain my vote, one thing I like is [1:19:34] that Panda Trucks is located here in Edgartown. [1:19:40] » Next item under tab 18 bid award PUR809 security gates for Washington County [1:19:46] Parks Department. >> Randy Kentner, director office of [1:19:50] procurement. >> Danny Dixon, deputy director of voting [1:19:52] responsibility. Tim Alexander, assistant park supervisor. [1:19:56] » The next recommendation I have for you is the bid award PR1809. [1:20:01] Move to award the bid for the purchase and installation of security gates at [1:20:05] Regional Park, Marty Snook Park, and Penmar Park to the responsible [1:20:09] responsive bidder Long Fence Company out of Maryland for a total sum of $148,600. [1:20:17] The purchase and installation of the security gates at Regional Park, Marty [1:20:20] Snook Park, and Pinmar Park will improve security, control after hours access, [1:20:26] reduce unauthorized or illegal activity on county park grounds. Approval of this [1:20:31] award will enhance safety and operational control at the identified [1:20:35] park locations. The bid was advertised on the state of Maryland's e Maryland [1:20:39] marketplace advantage website and the county's online bidding website. 11 [1:20:43] companies did download the document and we did receive three bids and that bid [1:20:48] tabulation is attached. Funding is available in the FY26 and 27 parks and [1:20:54] recck departmental budget. [1:20:58] » Any reason, not that I don't want to save a bunch of money, but any reason [1:21:02] that did there's such a discrepancy in those bids? You think [1:21:08] » it's under my opinion that it's proximity to the competition? Um the [1:21:12] other two companies uh that came in at higher bids are more towards the DC [1:21:17] metropolitan area and that's that'll drive cost down. [1:21:26] » Okay. Any other questions? We have a motion. [1:21:31] » Motion to approve. [1:21:35] » I said a question. Um >> we have a motion on the floor. [1:21:39] » We need a second for discussion. Second. >> Okay. Motion to second. Now, discussion. [1:21:44] » Great. Thank you. Um, will this save us money because we're not going to have [1:21:49] police that have to go to the parks to lock it every night or or park ranger? [1:21:52] Is that kind of the purpose? >> Um, I I think it not only will save us [1:21:56] money, but it'll also relieve the burden of our park staff and our county staff [1:22:01] of having to address potential issues after hours. [1:22:06] » Right. So, this kind of guarantees that it will be locked. [1:22:09] » Correct. Okay. [1:22:12] Okay, ready? Y ready? We have a motion and a second for approval as submitted. [1:22:18] All in favor by saying I. >> Oppos? Same sign. 50. Thank you. [1:22:23] » Thank you. >> Next item under tab 19 is soul source [1:22:26] procurement pur 1825 keystone CAD interface. [1:22:38] Randy Kentner, director in the office of procurement. [1:22:41] » Alani, director of emergency management communications. [1:22:44] » The next recommendation is a soul source procurement PR 1825. [1:22:49] Move to authorize a soul source procurement for CAD interface software [1:22:52] maintenance and annual licensing fees used by the division of emergency [1:22:56] management and communications in the amount of $143,588 [1:23:02] from Keystone Public Safety out of Maples, New Jersey. The division of [1:23:06] emergency management and communications which is to apply sections 1 through [1:23:11] 106.2A1 and two of the code of local public laws [1:23:16] of Washington County to this procurement. The section states that a [1:23:19] soul source became is authorized and permissible when only one source exists [1:23:23] that meets the county's requirements. This request does require four out of [1:23:28] five commissioners to proceed. The above approval is for software maintenance and [1:23:32] annual licensing fees for the following systems within the emergency management [1:23:37] and communications department. Computer aided dispatch licensing for the main [1:23:42] and backup 911 center which includes the keystone client and the web client. This [1:23:47] also consists of crywolf interface used for processing false alarm information [1:23:52] and for billing. All other interface components are provided by outside [1:23:56] softwares that communicates with the internal CAD system in order to complete [1:24:00] call processing, dispatching, logging, mapping, recording, reporting, and web [1:24:06] web access. Funds are available in the department's operating budget for this [1:24:09] purchase. [1:24:15] I guess is this probably what we've been using for the last several years [1:24:18] » for the last 20 plus years. >> Okay. And do other counties around us [1:24:23] use the same system? >> No, everybody has a different CAD. Some [1:24:27] people use Motorola, some people use Central Square. It's just what they [1:24:31] have. >> Have we looked at maybe other options to [1:24:36] see if because I see this is sole source um that might be less expensive. [1:24:41] » We'd have to replace the whole CAD system. [1:24:44] That's millions. That would be Yeah, that would be substantial. [1:24:49] » Thank you. >> Yeah. [1:24:51] Okay. >> Motion to approve. [1:24:53] » Yeah. >> Second. [1:24:55] » Okay. We have a motion and a second for approval as submitted. All in favor by [1:24:59] saying I >> I opposed. Same sign. 50. Thank you. [1:25:05] Next item under tab 20 is the soul source procurement pur 1827 fire hose [1:25:12] software agreement for division of emergency services. [1:25:16] » Randy Kentner, director in the office of procurement. [1:25:18] » Eric Jacobs emergency services. The next recommendation is a soul source [1:25:23] procurement PR1827 move to authorize a soul source [1:25:27] procurement of the maintenance software agreement for the division of emergency [1:25:31] services for CA AutoCAD software upgrades and updates in the amount of [1:25:36] $109,65126 [1:25:40] from ESO Solutions Incorporated out of Dallas, Texas. This is a maintenance [1:25:44] agreement for the ESO software platform which is utilized by county fire and EMS [1:25:50] for fire incident reporting. DEES wishes to apply sections 1 through 106.2A1 [1:25:57] and two of the code of local public laws of Washington County to this [1:26:01] procurement. This section states that a soul source procurement is authorized [1:26:05] and permissible when only one source exists that meets the county's [1:26:08] requirements and the compatibility of equipment, accessories, and replacement [1:26:12] parts is the paramount consideration. This does require four out of five [1:26:16] commissioners to proceed. This software is a necessary tool to ensure that [1:26:21] accurate and factual national fire incident reporting system compliant [1:26:26] documentation of fire rescue and EMS incidents can be completed. funds are [1:26:31] available in this department's operating budget for this purchase [1:26:39] » discussion. >> So this is an annual [1:26:43] and how long have we used so? >> So originally it was firehouse software [1:26:48] that transitioned to ESO and uh for the the length of um the association of [1:26:55] member companies using it it's been decades. [1:26:58] » Okay. Thanks. >> Okay. [1:27:02] Looking for a motion. [clears throat] >> Motion to approve. [1:27:08] » Second. >> Okay, we have a motion and second for [1:27:10] approval as submitted. All in favor by saying I. [1:27:14] » I. >> Oppos. Same sign. Thank you. [1:27:18] Next item under tab 21, Intergovernmental Cooperative Purchase [1:27:23] 26-0229, [1:27:26] Maryland Emergency Service Transporter Supplemental Payment Program, known as [1:27:32] ESSP. [1:27:35] » Randy Kner, director of the Office of Procurement. [1:27:38] » Morning. David Hayes, director of emergency services. The next [1:27:40] recommendation is an intergovernmental cooperative purchase INTG-26-0229 [1:27:47] move to authorize by resolution for the approval to contract services with [1:27:51] public consulting group LLC out of Boston, Massachusetts for consulting [1:27:56] services to implement the Maryland Emergency Service Transporter [1:28:00] Supplemental Payment Program known as ESP for the Department of Emergency [1:28:05] Services. This approval is also contingent upon the final approval of [1:28:09] the final agreement approved by the county attorney's office and signed by [1:28:13] the president of the board of county commissioners. The Maryland Emergency [1:28:17] Service Transporter Supplemental Payment Program offers an opportunity for [1:28:23] Washington County to receive an increase in reimbursement for the medical [1:28:27] transport of Medicaid patients. Washington County is now in a position [1:28:30] to enter into the program due to the increase of and ambulance services being [1:28:36] overseen by the Division of Emergency Services. For each successive cost [1:28:41] reporting cycle in consideration for the contracted services, Washington County [1:28:46] will pay PCG 9% of the net federal share portion of reimbursements received by [1:28:52] Washington County under this program. PCG would invoice annually based on the [1:28:57] amount collected only. The code of public local law of Washington County 1 [1:29:02] through 106.3 provides that the board of county [1:29:05] commissioners may procure goods and services through a contract entered into [1:29:09] by another government entity as long as we abide by the same terms and [1:29:12] conditions of that contract and we are doing so with this request. There is no [1:29:18] budgetary um impact as this is a not to exceed pricing schedule based on the [1:29:23] amount Washington County is reimbured through the ESP program. [1:29:31] » What's the total revenue estimated to be generated from this contract? [1:29:35] » Could be up to 3.5 million. >> Dave, do you have any idea how what [1:29:41] percentage of EMS transports will result in recovery of funds? So, currently this [1:29:47] will only apply to Medicaid uh recipients of EMS care. Uh the state [1:29:54] provides $150 per 24-hour period for any one Medicaid patient regardless of the [1:30:01] number of transports. This actually brings that to if we transport somebody [1:30:06] three times, we would receive a reimbursement. But more importantly, [1:30:10] what it does, it encumbers or includes all of the expenses in developing what [1:30:16] that reimbursement total should look like. Then it's 50% of that. So, as an [1:30:21] example, uh, in the $3.5 million estimate, the cost for transports likely [1:30:27] would be around $1,500 per reimbursement. And when you use uh [1:30:34] community rescue service, which is the largest provider, [1:30:37] » uh and also the largest Medicaid transporter, they have about 5600 calls [1:30:42] that would come in for that. >> Okay. [1:30:45] » So, um I don't know if that gets where you're looking. [1:30:48] » I think it does because I'm if you're talking about those six medic units, [1:30:52] then they are running 22,000 calls a year. So, you're tell I think you just [1:30:56] told me 25%. >> Yeah. the requirements and and why we [1:30:59] are at the point now that we can and likely should enter this program is it [1:31:04] requires the uh jurisdiction which is the county to be the deliverable of the [1:31:10] service which mean we needed to own the people and be the biller of record which [1:31:15] we now are for at least five companies uh and as we continue to transition [1:31:21] that number will grow. The county is doing the billing so that enables us to [1:31:25] do that. Uh and then we own the MSTOP which is the EMS operational program. Uh [1:31:30] those are requirements that need to be into that. Uh the positive of this is we [1:31:36] have till July 1 to enroll. You only have one enrollment period per year. If [1:31:40] we enroll by July 1, which we're prepared to do if this is executed [1:31:43] today, um it's a look back for the previous 12 months. So all of our [1:31:48] expenses for the last 12 months that qualify can be included next June 30 for [1:31:54] payment. The importance of this contract is this group is anme in this program [1:31:59] and delivering and does multiple counties throughout Maryland. So they're [1:32:02] our quickest way in and will help us maximize potential uh revenue recovery [1:32:10] » if we start with this group like on these last couple contracts. Are we kind [1:32:14] of locked into them in the future or we could [1:32:17] » and are there other companies that do this as well? [1:32:21] I I I would imagine that there are we did a 101 uh with this particular [1:32:26] company and I think uh out of and I don't have that information with [1:32:31] me but out of 15 states or 15 counties in the state of Maryland they represent [1:32:37] them all with the exception of one and I think that one is doing it themselves. [1:32:42] We don't believe that we're positioned right now to do this program ourselves. [1:32:46] Our goal is to get this launched and then we can evaluate it much like we did [1:32:50] with EMS billing. We currently use a thirdparty service for that. At some [1:32:53] point there may be an interest and originally there was with a group of [1:32:57] commissioners to bring that in house but we launched with an outside agency that [1:33:01] was better toolled and prepared to get us moving in the program. [1:33:05] » Yeah. I mean it's interesting. It looks like you mentioned that like three and a [1:33:08] half million might come in and they're going to take 9%. So, we're going to pay [1:33:11] 315,000 >> roughly [1:33:14] » roughly for the service. I mean, couldn't we do that in house for [1:33:19] less than 315,000? >> I don't think we're toolled right now [1:33:22] with the expertise to do that and maximize the revenue. Our recommendation [1:33:26] from county staff would be to move with a third party and then again in 12 24 36 [1:33:32] months if the commissioner still thought that we could create a cost savings then [1:33:36] bring it back in house. At that point, the program will already be established. [1:33:39] We already be familiar with all the parameters, all the reimburseables, [1:33:42] everything that we could get our money for. We want to try to maximize it. [1:33:47] » Like at CRS, as an example, they get reimbured right now, right? [1:33:51] » They do. $150 per Medicaid transport >> and using this service, how much would [1:33:57] the reimbursement be? >> It it could be potentially at $1,500. [1:34:01] Um, now CRS wouldn't be reimbursed through this program because we don't [1:34:07] own the people. We don't pay the salaries. You have to be the person that [1:34:11] pays the expense that's included in this program. So CRS in and of itself, the [1:34:17] way it's currently structured with corporation employees would not be able [1:34:22] to be included in it. When I say up to $3.5 million, at some point that would [1:34:26] include CRS potentially transitioning employees to the county. So, how how [1:34:30] much is it now with the five companies that we do have? [1:34:33] » I don't know that I have that here. >> I think it's only between three and [1:34:36] $500,000 now. >> Yeah, I it's a pretty low number. I [1:34:39] don't think it's on >> It wouldn't be up to 3.5 million until [1:34:42] until it was a systemwide >> county service. It's it's it's three to [1:34:47] 500,000 now. >> The spreadsheet doesn't have that, but [1:34:51] she's right. It is somewhere less than a million dollars. I think it's probably [1:34:55] less than 700,000, but it's revenue we don't have right [1:34:59] now. So the good news is we're capturing addition. [1:35:02] » So the initial cost for the first year would be somewhere between [1:35:06] 30 and and $70,000 not not the $350,000. >> And this particular contract is is paid [1:35:13] for performance. So if we don't collect a dollar, we don't pay a dollar. [1:35:17] » And I guess this doesn't affect CRS then at all in the current state. They [1:35:21] they're still going to get their I guess you said about $150. [1:35:25] » Yeah. We would have about uh a little over a thousand Medicaid calls that [1:35:30] likely would qualify to some level with the companies that [1:35:36] are on board. >> And how long is this contract? [1:35:43] This is a cooperative contract and I believe we've agreed to a two-year [1:35:46] period um so that they could move us into the system into the program assist [1:35:53] us the first year and then the second year we should get in the swing of [1:35:57] things and that's why we said we would revisit at that time if possible bring [1:36:00] it in house but it's a cooperative and you don't have to stay within that [1:36:05] contract. [1:36:09] I hear you say July 1st is the deadline to get into this program. So that's [1:36:13] good. Yeah, [1:36:16] » this was bid by another company. >> It's a source wall contract. [1:36:20] » Correct. So it was bid out by another organization or another county [1:36:25] government or local organization government organization. So we're just [1:36:29] piggybacking on their contract. >> Which contract are we piggybacking on? A [1:36:34] different county or >> a different county or a different I'm [1:36:36] not sure. >> It's a cooperative group. It's source [1:36:38] well. We use source well for a number of contracts and they had a contract for [1:36:43] this and specifically awarded um PCG uh for exactly what we were looking for to [1:36:51] get us enrolled to get us started. They were the consultant that was awarded and [1:36:55] I believe there was so many agencies within Maryland that was already using [1:37:00] this. >> They're almost the exclusive provider of [1:37:03] these consulting service for this particular program in Maryland. But this [1:37:07] was competitively bid. We're just piggybacking on another contract, [1:37:11] » right? >> I imagine the rural counties are [1:37:15] probably not using it. Garrett Aleni, >> not currently, but I do know that uh [1:37:20] Morgan County, West Virginia is now exploring that. West Virginia as a state [1:37:25] is not a participant in this particular program yet, but they're working on [1:37:28] legislation to move forward. Program is only about three years old. [1:37:34] It's not a long-term program yet. [1:37:39] Thanks. >> Yeah, a motion to approve that. [1:37:44] » Second. >> We have a motion and a second for [1:37:46] approval that's submitted. All in favor by saying I. [1:37:50] » I. >> Oppos? Same sign. [1:37:52] » 5. Thank you. Next item under tab 22 is contract award [1:38:00] PUR1 1817 recordkeeping and actuarial consulting [1:38:05] services for the retirement plan length of service award program better known as [1:38:10] LOAP and other postemployment benefits under Gatsby-75. [1:38:17] » Randy Kentner, director of procurement. [1:38:29] The next recommendation is the contract award for PR 1817. Move to award the [1:38:34] contract for recordkeeping and actuarial consulting services for the retirement [1:38:39] plan lent the service award program and other postmployment benefits under [1:38:44] GSB-75 to the responsible responsive proposal [1:38:49] Bolton Partners Incorporated out of Baltimore, Maryland for its price [1:38:53] proposal dated April 27th, 2026 for an initial one-year term with the option [1:38:58] for the county to renew up to four additional one-year periods for a total [1:39:02] sum $332,600. [1:39:06] The services consist of annual actuarial evaluations for employees, retirement [1:39:12] plan, length of service awards program, and other post-employment benefits plan, [1:39:17] preparation of annual employee benefit statements, approximately 100 benefit [1:39:21] calculations annually, approximately 10 buyback calculations annually. uh [1:39:27] administration of pension portal for employees and preparation of GASB [1:39:33] disclosure reports. Notice of the request proposal was advertised on the [1:39:37] county's online bidding site as well as the email marketplace advantage uh [1:39:42] website. 18 companies downloaded the document. Three companies were present [1:39:46] at the pre-proposal. We did receive one proposal for these services. [1:39:54] And to answer your question, we got before you asked, we had only got four [1:39:57] the last time five years ago. Um, so we got one this year and it was our [1:40:03] incumbent. Um, the coordinating committee that reviewed the proposal was [1:40:09] uh comprised with the director of procurement, the director of human [1:40:13] resources, human resources, retirement coordinator, director of budget and [1:40:17] finance, and the county CFO. The fees for the services are paid from the [1:40:21] pension funds. um years 21 through 26 for five years, the amount of that [1:40:27] contract was $279,815. [1:40:35] [clears throat] >> So the last time we had this it was [1:40:38] 270,000 >> $279,815. [1:40:42] That was 5 years ago >> and now it's 332. [1:40:47] [snorts] [1:40:51] Does anyone know um how many participants are in the LOAP program? [1:40:58] » Off the top of my head, I don't. >> Okay. I [1:41:01] » We can get that for you. I'll get that for you. [1:41:02] » I'm just curious. Okay. >> So, we're looking at uh $66,520 [1:41:08] per year. >> Okay. [1:41:12] [sighs] [1:41:15] » Okay. Motion. [1:41:18] Anyone? [1:41:24] Motion to approve. [1:41:30] » Second. >> Okay. [1:41:32] Ready to vote. All in favor by saying I. >> I. [1:41:35] » I. >> Oppos. Same sign. [1:41:37] » 5. Thank you. >> Next item under tab 23 is contract award [1:41:43] PUR1 18/19 stop loss insurance coverage. [1:41:51] Randy, >> Becky Lewis, I'm benefits consultant for [1:41:55] Citiz. The next recommendation is contract award PR18/19. [1:42:00] Motion to award a contract for stop-loss insurance to the responsive responsible [1:42:04] proposal high mark of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, who submitted a total [1:42:08] annual premium for option one of 1,639,444 [1:42:15] with a specific stop-loss of $175,000 per claimant. Stop-loss policies are [1:42:22] insuranceances that protects the plan from significant claim costs. associated [1:42:26] with individual members or for the entire group. Currently, the board of [1:42:30] county commissioners has a stop-loss policy with Highark that limits the [1:42:34] medical and prescription drug plan cost at a maximum of $175,000 [1:42:39] per member per year. Direct notice of the request proposal was emailed to 13 [1:42:45] potential providers. Propo proposals were received before the deadline of May [1:42:49] 15, 2026 from three companies that are providers of stop-loss insurance. Funds [1:42:55] are available in the FY27 health insurance budget for these services. [1:43:05] » Ma'am, >> ma'am, you're out of order. This is [1:43:10] » I'm going to ask you to sit. Please sit down. [1:43:13] » Please sit. Ma'am, please sit down. You're out of order. [1:43:20] Okay, Brand Brandy, you have any any further comments? [1:43:24] » Okay, >> commissioners. [1:43:29] » So, you had three bids. This is the lowest bidder. [1:43:33] » Okay. >> And the the presentation with the [1:43:36] results are on there if you'd like to take a look at the proposals that we did [1:43:40] get. >> Out of curiosity, what is the order? [1:43:48] Okay, we [clears throat] have a motion. [1:43:52] » Second. >> No, we need a motion. [1:43:55] » Do we have a motion? >> I do. Motion to approve. I'm sorry. [1:43:58] Motion approve. >> Motion and a second. Okay. All in favor [1:44:01] by saying I. >> I. [1:44:02] » Opposed. Same sign. 50. >> Okay. Thank you. [1:44:09] Next item under tab 24 contract award PUR1822 [1:44:13] Hagerstown Regional Airport rehabilitate runway 2-20. [1:44:21] » Randy Kentner, director in the office of procurement. [1:44:24] » Andrew Rashwin, director of public works. [1:44:26] » The next recommendation is contract award PR1822. [1:44:30] The recommended motions are motion one contingent upon successful FAA and MAA [1:44:35] grant application and awards. Move to award the contract for the [1:44:39] rehabilitation of runway 2-20 at the Hagerstown Regional Airport to the [1:44:44] Responsive Responsible Firm C. William Hetszer of Hagerstown, Maryland for a [1:44:48] total price of 2,220,450. [1:44:52] Motion number two, move to empower staff to sign and submit FAA and MAA grant [1:44:58] applications, issue purchase orders, execute task orders, and complete [1:45:02] related paperwork for this project based on the total cost uh being on the blow [1:45:08] amounts programmed and approved by the previous county budgets. Project scope [1:45:13] includes the reconstruction and rehabilitation of existing crosswind [1:45:17] runway 2-20, including runway milling and overlaying, replacement of airfield [1:45:23] lighting with LED new airfield signage, a constant current regulator, a [1:45:29] supplemental supplemental wind cone and replacement of lighting panel within the [1:45:34] existing air traffic control tower. Runway dimensions are expected to be [1:45:38] maintained. This project is time-sensitive as FAA and MAA grant [1:45:43] applications need to be submitted during the second week of June to meet the [1:45:47] deadlines. The invitation of bid was advertised on the county's website and [1:45:52] the state of Maryland's e-marland marketplace website. 12 companies [1:45:55] downloaded the document. Six firms were present at the pre-proposal and two [1:46:00] firms submitted a proposal. Funding is available in the capital improvement [1:46:04] plan RUN 021. [1:46:12] Mo motion to approve motion one accept the grant complete or submit the grant [1:46:19] application. Is that correct [1:46:23] » to award? >> Motion one's the contingent award. [1:46:25] Motion two is to submit the grant application. [1:46:27] » Okay. Motion one contingent award. Yeah. >> Second. Okay. We have a motion and a [1:46:32] second >> discussion. [1:46:34] » Okay. >> Thanks. Um, if we get the [1:46:39] what we're the grant application, if we get the grant, how what percentage of [1:46:43] the grant is going to cover the cost? >> 95% roughly. [1:46:48] » So, the county would pay the extra 5%. >> Correct. The airport would pay the [1:46:52] remaining 5% or so. >> It's paid for out of the enterprise [1:46:55] fund, >> right? So, I know that we had [1:46:58] electricity that went out this last week. Could that be included in [1:47:01] something like this to get battery backup? [1:47:04] » No. This project scope is already set, but that's another reason why we're [1:47:08] advocating for funding for the new air traffic control tower to address some of [1:47:13] those backup issues. >> Okay, so that's separate, but thank you. [1:47:17] So, it's >> there is a lighting component to this [1:47:20] project and that's one of the ad alternates. So, if you've been up in the [1:47:23] tower and you see those antiquated control systems, so there is a piece of [1:47:27] this project to be able to uh put a control panel in there to be able to [1:47:31] control the lighting. So that's what you're seeing in there is to be able to [1:47:35] control that from the tower, not mainly on the ground. [1:47:39] » Very good. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second on [1:47:43] the floor. Ready to vote? All in favor? >> Ma'am, you're out of order. This is [1:47:50] » I'm going to >> I'm going to ask you one more time to [1:47:54] leave or be quiet. >> What is the You need to leave, officer. [1:48:00] We're going I'm going to ask to have them removed. [1:48:07] » Oh, fair. [1:48:24] » So, I think you have a motion and a second on on one, [1:48:27] » right? So, we ready to vote? All in favor [snorts] by saying I [1:48:31] » I >> oppos same sign five 50. [1:48:35] » Next >> then I would motion to submit the [1:48:37] application to the FFA motion to second. >> We have a motion and a second to submit [1:48:43] the application for the grant award. All in favor by saying I [1:48:48] » I >> oppos. Same sign 50. Thank you. [1:48:53] » [clears throat] >> Uh, next item under tab 25 is contract [1:48:58] award PUR1823, aircraft rescue and firefighting uh, [1:49:04] building demolition at Hagerstown Regional Airport. [1:49:07] » The next recommendation is the contract award PR1823. [1:49:12] The recommended motions are motion one contingent upon successful FAA and MAA [1:49:17] grant application and awards. do move to award the contract for aircraft rescue [1:49:21] and firefighting building demolition at the Hagerstown Regional Airport to the [1:49:26] responsive responsible firm Blue Rock Remodeling out of Rockville, Maryland [1:49:30] with the lowest total bid amount of $92,000. [1:49:33] Motion number two, move to empower the staff to sign and submit FAA and MAA [1:49:38] grant applications, issue purchase orders, execute task orders, and [1:49:42] complete related paperwork for this project. um [1:49:47] for the total cost below the amount programmed and approved by in previous [1:49:51] county budgets. The project involves the demolition of the old abandoned airport [1:49:57] fire station to remove it from the airport's runway visibility zone and [1:50:01] runway object free area. This will enable the airport to meet FAA safety [1:50:06] standards and to improve line of sight between the primary and crosswind [1:50:10] runways. This is a rebid from previous bids that were rejected. Demolition [1:50:15] demolition services have now been separated out [1:50:20] from the airport fence realignment work. At um its May 7th, 2024 meeting, the [1:50:26] board of county commissioners previously voted to empower the airport director to [1:50:29] sign and submit FAA and MAA grant applications for the related um [1:50:34] paperwork for this project based upon total cost being [1:50:42] for for the amounts uh programmed and approved in a previous county budget. [1:50:46] The invitation to bid was advertised on the county's website and on the e- [1:50:50] Maryland marketplace advantage website. 21 companies downloaded the document and [1:50:54] eight firms were present at the pre-proposal. We did receive eight [1:50:58] proposals for this project. The project is identified in the county's capital [1:51:02] improvement plan under LTI068. [1:51:08] And I'm guessing this is 5% same thing as the last one. [1:51:11] » Correct. >> Thanks. [1:51:15] » Okay. Motion one. [1:51:32] We uh the there's not much difference in that number one and two bid. What was [1:51:37] it? Do you have an estimate of what you thought it would be? [1:51:40] » Yes, that's in there. Uh the engineers estimate I believe was just 6% or so [1:51:46] higher. Yes, 92,756 was the engineer's estimate for the [1:51:51] work. [1:51:59] Does the um removal of the building does that include any of the removal of the [1:52:05] apron with the building or the flooring of the building? Do you understand my [1:52:09] question? I'm just curious how much my understanding is that we're not [1:52:13] necessarily disturbing outside the footprint of the building. [1:52:16] » Okay. So, it's just the footprint of the building. [1:52:18] » Just the footprint of the building. >> Okay. And is it the floor of the [1:52:20] building also? Are you not sure? >> I'm not I could clarify. [1:52:23] » It's just torn. Okay. It's being demolished to the ground level. [1:52:26] » Visibility down to ground level and solid surfacing. Okay. Yes. [1:52:29] » Just curious. Thanks. >> As in all contracts, has the award [1:52:34] winner been vetted for? >> Correct. Um, we've talked with this [1:52:40] contractor. The consultant ADCI has has done more extensive um communication [1:52:46] with them and they're also on a upcoming prospective award as well. So, it is a [1:52:50] new contractor um to us in Washington County. [1:52:53] » References checked and things like that. They all were positive. [1:52:58] Yes. [1:53:02] » And we may see new vendors. We have our new online bidding site which opens it [1:53:06] up to a wide variety of vendors. So, we like to see that. That's competition. [1:53:10] So, you may see more new vendors in in the future. [1:53:28] What do you think the likelihood that we'll get the um the award is? [1:53:33] » This one I would say near 100%. Because the way these these projects work is we [1:53:38] have entitlement funds which are capital funds set aside by the FAA for the [1:53:44] airport meeting its um employment goal targets. So if we receive that uh this [1:53:50] program is scheduled to use entitlement funds the ones we just awarded uh runway [1:53:55] 220 is competing for discretionary funds. So that's the one that's [1:53:58] competitive uh much more timesensitive both both are uh but essentially they go [1:54:04] through kind of as a pairing and they evaluate those and the funds first off [1:54:07] the board are your entitlement funds and then remaining funds can compete for [1:54:12] discretionary grants. >> Yeah. I guess it's entitlement because [1:54:15] this is a safety issue. Well, yes and no. They consider it um basically we [1:54:20] structure our capital improvement plan so that we can compete for as much [1:54:25] discretionary outside funds. And so uh projects that deal with runways, [1:54:31] taxiways, kind of working from inside the airport out compete better for [1:54:35] discretionary funds. things like this, which are still safety improvements, but [1:54:40] more peripheral, is where we have a better chance to just use our [1:54:44] entitlement funds to to get the project done. So, we try to structure things to [1:54:48] be most advantageous to bringing outside more outside grant funds into the [1:54:53] airport. >> Very good. Thanks. [1:54:56] And where is the um contractor located? >> Their address is believe [1:55:03] Rockville >> Rockville Rockville [1:55:10] Okay. Any other discussion, questions? Motion for [1:55:17] item number one. [1:55:26] I'll go ahead and make a motion. I mean, it is the cheapest one, although [1:55:31] it's not by a lot. [1:55:35] And to your point, it is helpful to have a lot of people competing on our work. [1:55:45] » Second. >> Okay. Have a motion and second for [1:55:47] motion number one. All in favor by saying I [1:55:51] » I >> opposed. Same sign. Now discussion and [1:55:56] motion for motion number two. >> I make a motion that we apply for the [1:56:00] grant. >> Second. [1:56:01] » Okay. All in favor by saying I. I >> oppos same sign 50 likewise. Thank you. [1:56:09] » Next item under tab 26 is contract award PUR1 1824 airport operations area uh [1:56:17] fence access gate and realignment at Hagerstown Regional Airport. [1:56:22] » The next recommendation is contract award PR1824. [1:56:28] The recommended motions are motion one contingent upon successful FAA and MAA [1:56:33] grant applications and award. Move to award the contract for the airport [1:56:37] operations area fence and access gate realignment at the Hagerstown Regional [1:56:41] Airport to the responsive responsible firm Blue Rock Remodeling out of [1:56:45] Rockville, Maryland with the lowest bid total sum of 2,218,625. [1:56:53] Motion number two is the empower the staff to sign, submit FAA and MAA grant [1:56:58] applications, issue purchase orders, execute task orders, and complete [1:57:02] related paperwork for this project based on the program and approved uh budgets [1:57:08] by the county. The project includes the removal and reinstallation of new AOA [1:57:14] airport operations area security fencing gates to meet runway visibility zone [1:57:19] requirements. A section of the existing parameter fence that runs along the east [1:57:23] side of the runway O2 is also currently located within the runway object free [1:57:28] area. This section of the fence will be removed and a new section and a new [1:57:32] fence shall be constructed outside the ROFA. The project has been broken out [1:57:38] from a larger project that was designed and bid in 2025. We had no successful [1:57:43] bids um for that project. Therefore, the project has broken up into separate more [1:57:48] discipline specific work elements to diversify um the potential bidder pool [1:57:54] and to obtain successful bids for this project. Both contract PR1 1823 and 1824 [1:58:01] are anticipated to be included under the same FAA and MAA grants. The invitation [1:58:07] of bid was advertised on the county's online bidding website, the state's [1:58:11] email marketplace advantage website. 15 companies downloaded the document. Six [1:58:16] firms were present at the pre-proposal and we did did receive six proposals for [1:58:21] this project. This project is identified in the county's capital improvement plan [1:58:26] LBI68. >> I I have one question. I just noticed [1:58:31] that you say motion to empower staff. Do we normally do that? [1:58:36] » No, but I believe this was due to the supplies um and the application. I think [1:58:41] Neil normally signs the actual grant applications that that go in as an [1:58:46] authorized agent. So that that's what it's referring to. [1:58:50] » Well, aren't grants normally signed by the board president? [1:58:55] » Grant applications. [1:59:01] Neil has noted that in in his absence today, he'd give me this. In May of [1:59:06] 2024, the board did vote to empower him to sign these applications um [1:59:14] » for these projects. It was one project at the time. It's two projects now. They [1:59:18] broke it apart. >> What that is referring to is this [1:59:21] project was previously advertised with the demolition of the ARF station as [1:59:26] one. We only received one bid and the board rejected it. So when you're [1:59:31] dealing with FAA projects, there's multiple kind of applications that need [1:59:36] to be made and submitted um and purchase orders. So I think it's a question of [1:59:41] what is he permitted to sign versus what does President Bar need to sign for um [1:59:49] essentially moving those documents through execution. [1:59:54] » It's just unusual. [1:59:58] I [clears throat] would say Commissioner Bar would have to review and sign with [2:00:01] the permission of the vote of the commissioner's approval. Um another [2:00:07] check and balance. Someone tell me different. [2:00:10] » So then the previous two items that also need amended [2:00:14] to remove empower staff. [2:00:23] » I know there is a deadline I believe for June 15th. So, provided you're available [2:00:28] to sign those documents, >> that won't be a problem. [2:00:32] » Okay, >> we need a motion to kind of back up and [2:00:35] cover that. >> Yes, we need to amend the previous two [2:00:39] items. >> I make a motion to pre uh to [2:00:43] [snorts] revisit the previous two motions with [2:00:46] the condition, the approval and signature of the commissioner and [2:00:49] commissioners and John Bar signature. >> That accurate? [2:00:53] » Yes. >> Second. Okay, we have a motion and a [2:00:56] second for that revision. All ready to vote. All in favor by saying I. [2:01:00] » I. >> Opposed? Same sign. 5. No. [2:01:07] » Now for this one, um the motion would be amended to just move to approve instead [2:01:13] of empower staff. It would just move to approve [2:01:20] the submission of the grant applications. And [2:01:25] » yeah, >> out of curiosity, how much was the [2:01:30] project that was rejected a couple years ago? Um, it was over three million. Oh, [2:01:35] so we got a better price. Yes. >> Sort of break this whole this is done in [2:01:42] I'm a little confused. I'm sorry. This is done in certain bidding sequences and [2:01:46] bidding awards. What's it >> do you have your what number one low [2:01:52] bidder was blue rock? Do do they >> how they align with it's in there [2:01:57] somewhere. The engineering estimates. >> Uh yes. So the engineering estimate for [2:02:02] this one I believe was was actually a little bit less uh one [2:02:08] » $1,937,480 [2:02:12] was the engineers estimate on this one. So on this one at least with respect to [2:02:16] that the bids are a little bit higher than that estimate. So, what's of all [2:02:23] these bids tabulated, what's the difference between the first bidder and [2:02:27] say the second or third bidder, whoever, what's [2:02:29] » uh the spread on this one, the high bidder is 3,333,575 [2:02:35] and I believe they were the vendor that submitted the bid that I just referenced [2:02:40] that was rejected previously. Um, >> makes sense. So yes, the bids were [2:02:45] separated this time around and ultimately ended up being a new vendor [2:02:48] bidding on it because we had kind of an issue of well is it a demolition project [2:02:53] or is it a fence project and so you had people um not necessarily expertise in [2:02:59] either one and not a GC that wanted to step in and do uh the project and manage [2:03:03] both. So, we did get um on both projects more bids received for both of them, [2:03:11] which is a good sign, but again, it is a a new vendor. [2:03:18] » In eight years, I haven't seen that vendor. That's why I'm questioning it. [2:03:21] » Well, they didn't exist eight years ago. >> They seem really, again, it's [snorts] [2:03:26] competition's good, and I agree with what Neil said. It's always good, but is [2:03:30] there a fear of there being too low? I will say this, I mean again the [2:03:36] engineers estimate is one thing. We request their uh subconsultants listing [2:03:41] and estimated pricing. So I mean they are using long fence for the fencing [2:03:46] work and I know they're a reputable company. So a lot of times you have a GC [2:03:50] on this project. A lot of the work that they are uh proposing to be done is by [2:03:56] subcontractors. We do have a minimum percent of work to be completed by the [2:04:01] prime and they've met that. Um, so again, they've listed their subs, [2:04:06] they've been checked out. So I know we just awarded an earlier project along [2:04:10] fencing for gates and things like that. >> So some of it's coming down to how [2:04:14] they're managing the subs and the overhead. [2:04:22] » Who who vetted all the company? I mean, who vets them? [2:04:25] » Does AC Rock, they take the lead. Do you want to [2:04:30] explain kind of our process on this one because we did a little bit more effort [2:04:33] than usual? >> So, for Blue Rock, because they were [2:04:37] new, um we did it was more or less a team effort. ADCI did call the vendor, [2:04:42] did speak with the vendor, got a list of um jobs that they had done. They had [2:04:47] some foreign embassy jobs over overseas. They [2:04:52] had a I don't have the paper in front of me that had [2:04:54] » Yeah, they did embassy work in in Washington DC. I would say they're they [2:04:58] they have done you know residential work. They do commercial their [2:05:01] commercial work was was more on the state department side doing embassy. So [2:05:05] they have experience doing security projects, fencing projects. Um and again [2:05:10] this project is more that than necessarily [2:05:12] » it's not really as much project and site >> airport operation. It is about just what [2:05:17] they could do on any commercial property they haven't really had airport [2:05:21] experience but in this case I'm not sure it matters [2:05:27] » do do we require a bond anything certain amount [2:05:31] » yes there's a bid bond and a payment and performance bond [2:05:34] » okay so they are >> and they are registered with state of [2:05:36] Maryland so we do check that too so they're in good standing uh and they [2:05:40] have been since 2022 too. [2:05:45] » I just want to clarify when Commissioner Commissioner Klein made his motion he [2:05:50] referenced previous items. He was referring to 24 and 25. [2:05:57] Is there um is there any plan now or in the future [2:06:03] uh to provide any form of parking for general aviation aircraft in the [2:06:08] vicinity of the [sighs and gasps] museum? [2:06:13] » I would say yes and no. So there's a part of that apron which was purchased [2:06:19] several years ago under an FAA grant to provide that visibility zone. Mhm. [2:06:25] » And then I know Neil's had some conversations and meetings with the [2:06:28] airport uh or the Heggertown Aviation Museum about kind of reconfiguring where [2:06:34] they can park aircraft because as you know there's the uh object free area, [2:06:39] but then there's also kind of that cone that steps back up um where you can put [2:06:44] things maybe lower level but not high tails and things of aircraft. So, I [2:06:48] think he's had those discussions and I know there was a meeting about it, [2:06:52] » but I don't have a parking layout for everything. They park aircraft there [2:06:56] now. >> Yeah. But it's just not it's not [2:06:58] something that if I were landing at that airport that I could say I'm headed to [2:07:02] the museum that I can easily tower could move me to that to park. Do you [2:07:08] understand my point? >> Correct. I mean the gate there will be a [2:07:11] functioning sliding gate 160 ft. So there will be access in and out but [2:07:16] technically that is off airport property. [2:07:18] » Okay. >> All right. Thank you. [2:07:23] » Okay. Looking for a motion for motion number one. [2:07:34] » Is it appropriate to ask another commissioner a question? [2:07:39] » Like Commissioner Wagner. Um the last one that we looked at [2:07:45] » was only $756 difference, >> right? That didn't that didn't bother me [2:07:50] at all, you know. That was good, you know. [2:07:52] » And then this one, of course, is 3 million. Well, 300,000, sorry, [2:07:56] difference. Would you feel better if we divided it between two different [2:08:01] contractors? You know, I'm not after that as much as [2:08:04] I am just making sure they were vetted properly because eight years I've never [2:08:09] seen the name and it didn't exist eight years ago. And I'm [2:08:17] I mean it wouldn't matter if you divide. They're still less expensive than [2:08:22] either way. I think the grand total is more than that figure you just mentioned [2:08:27] on everything. Isn't it a difference? Well, I mean, I they're two separate bid [2:08:33] awards right now, two separate estimates, [2:08:36] » right? >> Um even though the the capital funding [2:08:40] » is coming from the same Washington County CIP number, [2:08:45] » right? >> Because of how we had it set up [2:08:48] originally, but we're doing two two bids. [2:08:54] I mean, I'll say any any project that we do, there's always risk of unknowns, [2:08:58] whether it's a a known vendor or a new vendor. Um, so I can't sit here and [2:09:02] promise that everything's going to go, you know, perfect. We do what we can and [2:09:06] ultimately, you know, the procurement's uh assistance and and with the the team [2:09:12] is to try to define if or judge if they're uh responsive and responsible. [2:09:19] That's really where we're coming from. the next low we would have to determine [2:09:24] that the low didn't meet the requirements because we did advertise [2:09:27] with course low bid does drive it but they also have to meet the requirements [2:09:31] of the solicitation and we found nothing that said otherwise. [2:09:35] » Yeah and I mean saving money saving money I get it and that's what we're [2:09:38] here for to try to save as much as we can and I I I'm a little bit more [2:09:43] comfortable personally because ADCI vetted them. I mean they've been in the [2:09:47] business forever and they've they do they're big. They're huge. If [2:09:53] » so, that makes me more comfortable. So, >> we can't just not award someone because [2:09:58] they're new because we're going to always have new vendors. [2:10:00] » Yeah. I mean I I I get the hesitation but we can't just say we are too new to [2:10:05] take on our project like like you said ABCI did make their calls and they did [2:10:10] vet them as well as you know we went through what procurement does to vet [2:10:14] them >> and we have procedures in place if they [2:10:17] fail to perform any of the duties or responsibilities that are included in [2:10:20] the contract um we have um things in place to to address that. [2:10:26] » Correct. We don't like doing it, but that's to Commissioner Bar's question [2:10:30] before about the payment and performance bond. You don't like to go there, but [2:10:33] there's >> um measures that we take to protect [2:10:36] ourselves. [2:10:40] » Okay. Looking for a motion for the first [2:10:45] recommendation. Motion number one. >> Make a motion to approve motion one. [2:10:51] » Okay. >> Second. [2:10:52] » I have a motion and second. Ready to vote. All in favor by saying I. I [2:10:56] » I >> oppose same sign. And then motion number [2:10:59] two is to uh >> without empower staff, [2:11:03] » right? To submit FAA and MAA grant applications. [2:11:08] » Motion to approve that >> as amended. [2:11:12] » Correct. >> Okay. [2:11:13] » Thank you. >> Second. Ready to vote. All in favor by [2:11:16] saying I. >> I. I. [2:11:17] » Oppos. Same sign. 5. Thank you. Thank you. [2:11:22] Next item is under tab 27 and that is contract award PUR786 [2:11:30] Washington County Office um building roof repair. The next recommendation is [2:11:35] contract award PR 1786. Move to award the contract for the Washington County [2:11:41] Office Building Roof Repair to the Responsive Responsible Firm Bonded [2:11:45] Applicators of Waysburg, Pennsylvania with the lowest total bid sum of [2:11:49] $292,845. [2:11:53] The work includes removal of the existing membrane roof system on the [2:11:56] county office building, removing and resetting rooftop equipment, [2:12:01] installation and insulation, crickets, slopes, [2:12:05] saddles, flashing roofing system, and parapet wall repairs. The building is [2:12:12] located at 3335 West Washington Street in Haggartown. The invitation of bid was [2:12:17] advertised on the county's online bidding site, the state of Maryland's e [2:12:21] Maryland marketplace [snorts] advantage website. 16 companies downloaded the [2:12:25] document. 15 companies were present at the pre pre- bid proposal and we did [2:12:29] receive 10 proposals for this project. Capital improvement uh plan budget DLB [2:12:36] 100 has made funds available for this project. [2:12:46] discussion motion >> just my curious question engineers [2:12:50] estimate on that >> I would yes we did one I think it was [2:12:56] around 300,000 250 or 300,000 I budgeted for [2:13:01] this one in the facility roof uh repairs >> unit price is a little higher because [2:13:06] it's a little bit more than just a roof replacement there's insulation and other [2:13:10] work and there's a lot of equipment [2:13:14] Just another huge discrepancy that's all which is in our favor for the [2:13:18] » in this in this case. Bonnet Applicators has done a lot of work with the county [2:13:22] and they're also >> um [2:13:24] » Yeah, it's a well known >> familiar with the building. They've done [2:13:27] patch repairs on it already. So, I mean I think they know what they're getting. [2:13:32] » Well, I'm not questioning their ability. I was just thinking we keep seeing all [2:13:36] these big swings. >> You're say what's the reason? I think in [2:13:39] this case it's familiarity. Um, and they are a local contractor [2:13:43] » and I think they see the competition when they're on our site. They can see [2:13:45] who's bidding on that. >> So, there's a there's a number of [2:13:48] vendors on there. >> Okay. [2:13:50] » And we we had a lot of participation in the the um pre-bid meeting and the site [2:13:55] visit. [2:13:58] » Okay. Any other discussion? Looking for a motion. [2:14:03] » Motion to award. [2:14:08] » Second. >> Okay. Motion and second for award as [2:14:11] submitted. All in favor by saying I. >> I. [2:14:14] » Oppos? Same sign. 5. Next item under tab 28 is contract award PUR1 1787 Martin [2:14:23] Luther King Jr. uh community center renovation. [2:14:27] » My last recommendation contract award PUR 1787. [2:14:31] Move to award the contract for the Martin Luther King Jr. community center [2:14:35] renovation to the responsive responsible firm Tricson Construction of Baltimore, [2:14:40] Maryland with the lowest total bid sum amount of 2,799,775 [2:14:48] for the base bid at alternates three allowance and unit prices and to approve [2:14:53] and execute the reference budget adjustment. So that'll require two [2:14:57] approvals, one for the award and one for the budget adjustment. The project [2:15:02] includes renovations to common use areas on three floors of the former school [2:15:06] building constructed in 1949. Washington County is the building owner and primary [2:15:12] building tenants include Head Start and Children in Ne. The project will uh [2:15:17] renovate portions of the building to upgrade building systems and accommodate [2:15:21] public facility use as a community gymnasium. [2:15:25] Building renovations include replacing the wood floor in the gymnasium, new [2:15:29] restroom facilities, installation of an elevator and machine room, HVAC systems, [2:15:35] sprinkler additions, fire alarm and door security systems, partial roof [2:15:40] replacement, windows, two entrance canopies and landscaping. The building [2:15:44] is located at 131 West North Street in Haggartown. The invitation of bid was [2:15:50] listed on the county's website along with the state of Maryland's e Maryland [2:15:53] marketplace advantage website. 60 companies downloaded the document. 18 [2:15:58] curves were present at the pre-proposal and we did receive five proposals for [2:16:03] this. Funds are budgeted in various capital improvement plans for these [2:16:08] services and a $125,000 budget adjustment form uh from [2:16:14] facilities roof repairs. MLK Gymnasium is requested to cover the construction [2:16:19] and inspection cost associated with the roof replacement that will be completed [2:16:24] with the renovation project. >> [clears throat] [2:16:34] » Okay. >> Just had a question about the gymnasium. [2:16:37] How many people tend to use this? >> It varies depending on the event. Um the [2:16:45] the hope is and the plan as after uh the renovations, the Washington County [2:16:51] Recreation Department would be able to run more programming there. Right now, [2:16:54] one of the limiting factors is the lack of facilities, uh, restroom facilities, [2:16:59] things like that. So, it's used daily, um, by Head Start for their gymnasium [2:17:05] space. And back when Robert Wood Johnson was operating, uh, programming for the [2:17:10] community, they were using it as well, uh, at least, I think, two or three [2:17:15] times a week. So it get you it's used fairly uh regularly and we anticipate [2:17:20] the community use aspect would increase once we have this project complete. Um [2:17:26] that rental space will be more or less self-contained prior to that. It there [2:17:32] weren't measures in place to be able to ensure that people were staying in the [2:17:36] gymnasium and not through other parts of the building or having access to [2:17:40] facilities. And you think our parks and wreck will be a be sorry will be able to [2:17:44] use this facility as well? >> Correct. I think we'll be able to use it [2:17:47] and even discussions about some of the community reinvestment funds um having [2:17:53] that opportunity to support programming there. So I think we're really excited [2:17:58] about offering that service to the community. Um and so it'll be a nice [2:18:02] addition and we're trying to reuse the facilities that we already have rather [2:18:06] than going and building a new gym somewhere else. Um so I think in that [2:18:10] regard it's it's fairly uh you know costefficient to do to do that versus uh [2:18:16] new somewhere else. >> And the community reinvestment funds are [2:18:20] monies uh that we receive uh from cannabis sales tax. [2:18:31] [clears throat] [2:18:37] Motion to approve Second. [2:18:40] » Okay, we have a motion and second for approval. And before I call for a vote, [2:18:43] I want to go on the record as abstaining uh from voting on this [2:18:49] when I understand that my former company that I used to own six years ago may be [2:18:54] a part of this project as a subcontractor. And so therefore, I'm [2:18:59] going to set this one out. But we we do have a motion in a second. I'm going to [2:19:03] call for the vote. All in favor by saying I [2:19:06] » I >> 40. 41 extens abstension [2:19:11] » and for the approval of the budget adjustment. [2:19:15] » Motion to approve. >> Okay. We have a second for that. [2:19:20] » Second. >> Okay. Motion to second for budget [2:19:23] adjustment. All in favor by saying I. >> I. [2:19:26] » And I abstain. 40. >> Thank you. [2:19:30] » Thank you. >> [clears throat] [2:19:36] » Next item under tab 29 FY2027 program open spaces annual program. [2:19:43] Andrew Echelman. >> Thank you. Something a little bit more [2:19:46] exciting and light-hearted. Everyone looks forward to this uh each year. I [2:19:50] certainly do. Uh, it's to seek a recommended motion to approve the annual [2:19:55] FY27 program open space project list as was [2:20:00] presented and recommended to the Washington County Recreation and Parks [2:20:03] Advisory Board. Each year, per POS guidelines, the board of county [2:20:09] commissioners is required to adopt the annual POS program. The various [2:20:14] municipalities, board of education, Hickortown Community College, as well as [2:20:18] the county submit project requests for consideration and inclusion in the [2:20:22] program. Based upon anticipated available funds, we develop a program [2:20:28] that gives consideration to county parks and recreation priorities, community [2:20:33] benefit, and the priority rating of the project sponsor. Uh this year the parks [2:20:38] and recck advisory board um heard those presentations and voted at its May 7th [2:20:44] meeting to recommend the proposed schedule to the county commissioners for [2:20:47] adoption. After adoption by the county [2:20:50] commissioners, we finalize the program schedule, send it into the Department of [2:20:55] Natural Resources, and then once that's approved, uh project sponsors may start [2:21:01] uh and apply for funding after July 1st. This year, Washington County will [2:21:06] receive $1,77,378 in FY227 [2:21:11] pro program open space funds. Since Washington County has met its local [2:21:16] acquisition goal, 100% of these funds and aortionment can [2:21:21] be used for either acquisition or development. [2:21:25] Parkland projects are available for 100% reimbursement while development projects [2:21:32] require a minimum 10% local match. This year all projects being considered and [2:21:38] recommended are development projects. Uh this is highly unusual but uh the [2:21:44] allocation was a little bit uh higher um almost twice as much as last year. we [2:21:50] had you seen a decline after seeing uh earlier record numbers for allocation in [2:21:56] FY 23 and 24. Um so all project sponsors requests were funded um including some [2:22:06] uh additional uh funds that were made available to [2:22:10] some of the project sponsors that I revisited um with their estimates [2:22:15] because they submit these back in December. And so whether it's asphalt or [2:22:20] diesel or those kind of things, um we made sure that the funding requests were [2:22:24] still met. And so the project list before you essentially everyone who [2:22:29] submitted an application um it's able to be fully funded this [2:22:34] year. Are there any questions? >> The work in Hancock, what does that [2:22:40] involve? So, um, if you've been up there, you've seen they installed the [2:22:44] splash pad, the parking lot, and all of the, uh, [2:22:48] driveway entrances for that area of the park kind of [2:22:52] » south of there and to the east of the library, okay, is what they want to redo [2:22:56] and surface and stripes so it's not so much of a hodge podge and broken [2:23:00] pavement and and so have a proper parking lot to serve. [2:23:03] » Okay. So, it's specifically for the splash pad. [2:23:07] » Yeah. Well, I mean, it can serve other amenities within the park, but primarily [2:23:11] what's driving it is the splash pad. >> Yeah, I saw that was gravel and so it's [2:23:15] warranted. Sure. [2:23:23] » And this is all state money, right? >> Correct. It's state money that is, [2:23:28] again, as a refresher, it's collected as a as a transfer tax on real estate [2:23:33] sales. So, a portion of that goes into a pot of money and then there uh the state [2:23:39] does have discretion over uh which funding programs within that um [2:23:46] receive a certain allocation. So, when Chris Bogs is in here for land [2:23:51] preservation, that's also something that gets funded under this. There's state [2:23:54] program open space. So, that's why you can look at a whole for what the funds [2:24:00] are within program open space at a state level. But then the administration kind [2:24:04] of has discretion over how much they allocate to each program is my [2:24:07] understanding. [snorts] [2:24:11] » Move to approve the POSOS project list. >> Second. Okay. We have a motion and [2:24:16] second for approval as submitted. All in favor by saying I [2:24:20] » I >> oppos. Same sign. 50. Thank you. [2:24:24] » Thank you. Next item under tab 30 is the 2026 2027 [2:24:30] property and casualty insurance renewal. >> Ma'am, ma'am, you're out of order. [2:24:39] » Ma'am, you're being disruptive to this meeting. I'm going to ask you to sit [2:24:43] down or leave. >> Ma'am, [2:24:46] » officer, we're going to have to remove her. [2:24:48] » Need to ask her to leave. >> Ma'am, you have to leave. [2:24:51] » I will leave now. for supporting this. This is all [2:24:55] and you're silencing the people. The people want to speak. You're [2:24:58] the command. All fair [2:25:20] 28 >> Tracy McCammon, risk management [2:25:24] coordinator. >> I'm Patrick Civas. Good morning, Chip [2:25:28] Rose, director of human resources. >> We're here to present the 2026 2027 [2:25:33] property and casualty insurance renewal. The recommended motion is moved to renew [2:25:37] the property and liability policies with Travelers Insurance Company and the [2:25:42] drone and airport liability policies with AIG. [2:25:46] The renewal quotes from the insurance carrier carriers are reflected on the [2:25:50] attached premium comparison spreadsheet. The total renewal is a 5.8% 8% increase [2:25:55] in premium compared to last year's actuals that were paid. Overall, we had [2:25:59] a very favorable insurance renewal as reflected in the premium comparison. [2:26:04] Several premiums either decreased slightly or they remained unchanged. [2:26:08] There are two items that I would like to highlight from the comparison sheet. [2:26:12] First, we were able to get travelers to agree to increase our coverage limit for [2:26:16] our cyber to million and to decrease the deductible to $25,000. [2:26:24] Second, there is an increase to our autoline premiums both in the liability [2:26:28] and the physical damage. The increase is mainly due to our loss ratio and the [2:26:33] number of transit bus accidents that we've had over the past year. So, [2:26:37] unfortunately, Travelers has increased the deductible only to our transit bus [2:26:42] accidents for the upcoming policy term. So, effective uh July 1st, the [2:26:48] deductible will increase from the current $5,000 deductible to $10,000. [2:26:53] The HR department has been working with the transit department on a plan to help [2:26:58] uh mitigate some of these uh claims that we're having. And I can let Chip explain [2:27:03] that plan. briefly. Um, starting this month, HR and Transit has developed a [2:27:07] strategy to increase the volume of drivers we have uh on demand, improve [2:27:11] the structure of the job family so they know where they stand in their family, [2:27:14] develop new training for hands-on training specifically, um, and starting [2:27:18] with the new fiscal year, we're going to hire a new safety coordinator. We're we [2:27:22] have high hopes that the uh this will improve the confidence of our transit [2:27:25] drivers and will help lower the volume of future incidents. [2:27:31] So, as I said before, the um total increase in premium is 5.8%. However, we [2:27:36] are within the 10% um that was budgeted for the fiscal year. Concurrences is [2:27:41] Michelle Gordon, county administrator, and the alternative would be to go back [2:27:44] and try to complete a market bid, but that could create a lapse in coverage. [2:27:50] Any questions? [2:27:57] How long have we had this company? >> We've been with Traveler since 2000. [2:28:03] » And when have we put it out for bid? >> Um [sighs and gasps] trying to think the [2:28:09] last time you went out to bed. >> It was before my time handling the [2:28:12] account. We did uh the the property in Marine were with another outfit as of [2:28:17] two years ago and then we bid that out. travelers came in with very aggressive [2:28:21] option that we we did accept or county accepted that they're with now. So the [2:28:25] property in Marine those were those were shopped at the market. That's how they [2:28:29] ended ended up at Trappers. Um but we have not shopped that out and at least [2:28:34] since I've been handling the account it's not to say we could not. It's just [2:28:39] the the account isn't in the best shape to expect a better result right now due [2:28:44] to some loss history. So when when all the things that HR is doing safety [2:28:49] standpoint start to show in as a result of lower frequency of claims and lower [2:28:54] claims and the presentation would look better to potential suitors, then that's [2:29:00] the time we want to go out and do that. >> Yeah. So, I'm thinking about putting a [2:29:04] motion to accept this uh because it's one year, [2:29:08] right? >> Accept this for one year, but with the [2:29:10] stipulation that we're going to go out to bid next year to get other prices [2:29:14] that we can look at. You kind of want to Is that a motion? [2:29:20] » That's a motion. Yes. >> I want to do a second for discussion. Uh [2:29:25] it sounds like to me on travelers that What was their proposal on cyber that we [2:29:30] got them to 2 million? 1 million. >> So we originally had 1 million. Um we've [2:29:35] had that since our renewal in 2023 because of our cyber incident that we [2:29:40] had in November of 22, right? >> We originally had a $3 million policy. [2:29:44] Deductible was $25,000. >> Okay. And when we did the renewal in 23, [2:29:49] they reduced our uh coverage to 1 million, put some sublimit coverages on [2:29:54] some of the other things that was covered in the policy and increased our [2:29:57] deductible to 50,000. And ever since then, um I've been trying to get it back [2:30:02] up. >> So we did manage to get 2 million and [2:30:05] 25,000 instead of 50,000 and >> correct [2:30:09] » or less than 2 million. >> Yes. And and to your your point on this [2:30:12] particular situation with the cyber, this wasn't just an ask like travelers, [2:30:15] will you do this for us kind of thing. Competition did did force their hand a [2:30:19] little bit on having adjusted terms for us both in pricing and getting [2:30:23] attention. >> Good. [2:30:25] » Yeah, I think it's fair to shop it in a year, but I'm fine. Yeah. [2:30:29] » Is that a second? >> Yeah. [2:30:31] » Okay. We have a motion and a second on the floor. Ready to vote? All in favor [2:30:36] by saying I >> oppos. Same sign. 5. Thank you. So that [2:30:40] motion approves as amended. >> Yes. [2:30:44] » Thank you. >> Thank you. [2:30:49] » Next item. Uh tab 31 agriculture. June is National Dairy Month. And do we [2:31:00] Kelsey? [2:31:03] » Michelle, >> you need to ice cream. [2:31:09] Okay. [2:31:19] » Good morning, commissioners. >> Good morning. [2:31:21] » Kelsey Kadel, agricultural business specialist for the Department of [2:31:24] Business and Economic Development. >> Good morning, commissioners. Danielle [2:31:27] Weaver, director of public relations and marketing. [2:31:32] Every June we celebrate National Dairy Month, a time to recognize the farmers [2:31:35] and dairy producers who help feed our communities every day. Dairy continues [2:31:39] to play an important role across Maryland, both economically and [2:31:43] culturally. The recent data from the Maryland Department of A shows that milk [2:31:47] sales in 2023 generated nearly $185 million statewide, reflecting the [2:31:52] strength and lasting importance of the industry. Washington County remains a [2:31:56] key part of that success. Being the leaders for the state with 92 dairy [2:32:00] farms throughout the county, local farm families work hard all year round to [2:32:04] provide local milk, cheese, ice cream, and other dairy products to be enjoyed [2:32:08] by families across the region. This year, National Dairy Month celebration [2:32:13] is especially meaningful as Washington County commemorates its 250th [2:32:17] anniversary. Agriculture has shaped the county since its earliest days, and [2:32:21] dairy farming has long been one of the defining traditions. The area's rich [2:32:25] limestone soil, water resources, and open pasture land has made an ideal [2:32:29] place for dairy farms to thrive, helping establish an industry that has supported [2:32:33] generations of local families. So, let us remember that National Dairy Month is [2:32:38] not only a time to celebrate the nutritious dairy products, but also a [2:32:41] chance to recognize the hardworking farmers who continue a tradition that [2:32:44] has been a part of Washington County for 250 years. Residents are encouraged to [2:32:49] support local dairy producers this month and every month. And of course, there's [2:32:54] no better way to celebrate than with a sweet scoop of local ice cream. [2:32:59] And I'm here today to officially announce the Washington County's 250th [2:33:03] anniversary ice cream trail, which officially launched on June 2nd and will [2:33:08] continue through the last day of summer, which is September 22nd. This year's [2:33:12] special theme trail features 16 participating stops across Washington [2:33:17] County, giving residents and visitors an opportunity to enjoy local ice cream [2:33:21] while exploring communities throughout the county. The ice cream trail [2:33:26] celebrates both our strong dairy heritage and our 250th anniversary, [2:33:31] highlighting the farms, cremaries, and businesses that help make Washington [2:33:36] County such a special place. The response has already been incredible [2:33:40] with one participate participant completing all 16 stops in less than a [2:33:45] week. Whether you visit one stop or all 16, [2:33:50] the ice cream trail is a fun way to support local businesses, celebrate our [2:33:55] agricultural roots, and take part in Washington County's 200 250th [2:34:00] anniversary festivities throughout the summer. Along the way, you can create [2:34:05] lasting memories with friends and family, meet fellow participants, and [2:34:09] maybe even make a new friend while enjoying some of the best ice cream [2:34:13] Washington County has to offer. [2:34:17] » And we do have uh one of those locations for you for when the meeting is over um [2:34:22] in the break room. Uh we have gotten ice cream from Misty Meadow Farm from Creary [2:34:26] for you today. >> And they were also our favorite ice [2:34:30] cream shop for last year's trail. Very good. Very good. Thank you. [2:34:35] » Thank you. >> Appreciate it. [2:34:36] » Thank you. [2:34:41] » Okay. Next item under tab 32 is the Washington County diversity and [2:34:45] inclusion uh committee appointments. Don >> Don Marcus, county clerk, commissioners. [2:34:51] On behalf of the Washington County Diversity and Inclusion Committee, I am [2:34:55] requesting a motion to appoint Thomas Waldron and Maya Shupe to serve a first [2:35:00] full three-year term from June 1st of 2026 through May 31st of 2029. This is [2:35:08] not a paid board. [2:35:16] » Motion. >> Motion to approve. [2:35:18] » Second. >> Okay. Motion and second for approval as [2:35:21] submitted. All in favor by saying I. >> I. [2:35:24] » Opposed. Same sign. 5. Thank you. Next item under tab 33, Washington County [2:35:30] Veterans Advisory Committee reappoint. >> Don Marcus, County Clerk. On behalf of [2:35:36] the Washington County Veterans Advisory Committee, I'm requesting a motion to [2:35:41] reappoint Aaron Palmer to serve a second three-year term from November 1st of [2:35:47] 2025 through October 31st of 2028 as a veteran representative. This is not a [2:35:53] pay board. Motion to approve. >> Second. [2:35:57] » We have a motion and a second for approval as submitted. All in favor by [2:36:01] saying I. >> I oppose. Same sign. Thank you. [2:36:07] » [clears throat] >> Next item under tab 34 is the sheriff's [2:36:11] office first amendment toou between uh Washington County public schools [2:36:17] sheriff's office and board of county commissioners Zachary. [2:36:21] » Thank you President Bar Zachary Kefir County Attorney. I'm before you today [2:36:25] with the recommended motion to approve the first amendment to the school [2:36:29] resource officer between the board of education sheriff's office and board of [2:36:34] county commissioners. The school resource officer provides for [2:36:38] the assignment of full-time school resource officers to the board of [2:36:42] education for placement at the board of education central office Boonboro, Clear [2:36:46] Spring, Smithsburg, and Williamsport school complexes. The school resource [2:36:51] officer dated July 1, 2025 was executed by the parties and includes attachment [2:36:57] two establishing the yearly cost of each SRO's salary and benefits to be paid by [2:37:02] the board of education. Theou requires attachment two to be amended annually. [2:37:07] The purpose of this first amendment is to amend attachment two. [2:37:12] » Um, I don't have attachment two in my packet. Can I make a copy of that for [2:37:16] the commissioners? >> I'm sorry. I don't. It's not in my [2:37:20] packet either, but I can certainly get that to you. [2:37:34] Are you emailing that right now? I'll go print it for the commissioners. [2:38:03] » [snorts] [2:38:23] » My apologies, President Bar. Um I guess if once Commissioner Wagner and uh [2:38:28] Michelle come back if you want to move on and we can maybe [2:38:33] » Um yeah, >> I I I'm sorry it's not up in my emails. [2:38:37] » I was just looking at the next item here. I'm not sure I want to move into [2:38:40] that without full board and >> we we can wait. Yeah, county [2:38:45] administrator. We'll just hold tight here for a moment. [2:39:23] Yes, >> the other 75%. [2:39:31] It's just >> they they pay the full amount but um [2:39:35] each quarterly payments of 25% of the total cost but they pay the whole [2:40:00] Okay. [2:40:12] Sorry. [2:41:26] I'll be right back. Okay. [2:41:55] I just spotted something wrong in our next item. The next item on the agenda [2:42:01] increase,000 from 125 to 125 something in your next item. [2:42:10] We'll bring it up. Correction correction. [2:42:14] » Yeah. Just [2:42:20] looking ahead to the next item. Increasing $6,000. [2:42:34] Must be a typo of some sort. increased 86,000 from 125 [2:42:42] to 1216,000. [2:42:54] Okay. Okay. Maybe it is okay. It's It's okay. It's okay. I put 255 to 35. [2:43:03] » Okay. Okay. [2:43:09] Thank you. Just >> Zach's printing it now. [2:43:14] » Okay. Well, [2:43:19] » should we wait for Zach? >> Yeah. I I think you guys need to take a [2:43:24] look at theou [2:44:32] Thank you. [2:44:42] that other item is correct. >> Okay. [2:44:46] » I was I wasn't looking at it right. [2:44:55] Thank you. [2:45:20] Okay, let's come back to [2:45:25] theou between Marson County Public Schools Sheriff's Office and the Board [2:45:28] of County Commissioners. So, I think everyone's been handed a [2:45:34] update here. [2:45:38] So for the audience and the viewers, the total fiscal year budget amount is [2:45:42] $95,634.56. [2:45:51] This amount um is paid for by the board of education and it comes out of the [2:45:54] funding that the county provides to the board of education uh as part of [2:45:59] maintenance of effort and I believe this contract has been in place for quite [2:46:03] some time. So it's included in maintenance of effort. [2:46:12] » Any discussion? Motion. [2:46:15] » I guess just a brief discussion. I really support this program that we have [2:46:20] officers in the schools. It helps protect the kids. Uh and they have good [2:46:23] relationships with the students as well, which provides a good positive example. [2:46:29] So I'm glad to be able to take part in this. that I go ahead and make a [2:46:32] recommendation that we move forward. Second. [2:46:35] » Okay. We have a motion and second for approval as submitted. All in favor by [2:46:39] saying I. >> I. [2:46:41] » Post. Same sign. 50. Thank you. [2:46:46] Um, next item under tab 35 is the FY27 general fund budget adjustment. [2:47:06] Morning, commissioners. Kelsey Mace, chief financial officer. [2:47:11] Staff is requesting an adjud an an adjustment to the board of education's [2:47:14] FY27 budget based on the final state aid calculations issued by the Maryland [2:47:19] State Department of Education. On May 19th, the MSDE released their final [2:47:24] state aid calculations for FY27, which included some revisions from their [2:47:28] preliminary calculations. Based on these revisions, the amount [2:47:33] budgeted for direct allocation to the board of education increased $86,580. [2:47:40] And I'm I'm double checking to see where my typos at if it's in this increase or [2:47:44] if it was in the budget that we started with, but the budget will be changing to [2:47:48] 125 million, 311,760. [2:47:53] And the amount for the private prek will decrease 9,970 [2:47:57] from $499,000 to9 920 to $489 950. So it either increased to 86580 or [2:48:05] 56580 depending on where my um typo was. Um the net effect on this increase is [2:48:15] $76,610 which will be offset by decreasing the [2:48:19] amount budgeted for capital reserves. It is staff's request that this change be [2:48:23] made to the original adopted budget for FY27 since the fiscal year has not [2:48:28] started and budget documents have not yet been published. This will be budget [2:48:32] neutral and the general fund total for fiscal year 27 will remain at [2:48:36] 355751,800. [2:48:47] Great. This is really just a tweak in what we've done and we it's mandated by [2:48:51] the state because we have to do >> it is I have received an estimated [2:48:55] revision based off of changes that they were doing with their state formulas and [2:48:59] that was included in the approved version. Um but when we did get that [2:49:02] final amount out it just did um vary a little bit from what we estimated. [2:49:08] » Very good. So this is based on formulas not enrollment. [2:49:11] » Correct. It was >> well enrollment is part of that formula. [2:49:15] » Okay. Thanks. It is um but their changes per their letter and I can share this [2:49:20] with all the commissioners um at the state level the overall [2:49:25] funding for state and local board certifications increased um split [2:49:30] between local and state for their career ladder. Um so this increased the funds [2:49:36] for the maintenance of certification for all el eligible teachers and not just [2:49:40] those that were reertified in December of 25. Um there was also changes to the [2:49:46] pre kindergarten where state and local pre pre kindergarten funding decreased [2:49:50] by 15.2 million in total and that was spread out 7.6 million over all the [2:49:55] local jurisdictions. Um and then there's also some enrollment changes that [2:49:59] impacted the education effort and local share calculations in addition to the [2:50:04] other bul um program calculations. I'll send this letter out to you to see what [2:50:09] all they changed at the state level that recalculated for everybody. [2:50:13] » Thank you. [2:50:18] Okay. Motion to approve. >> Second. [2:50:22] » Okay. We have a motion and second for approval as submitted. Uh all in favor [2:50:27] by saying I >> opposed. Same sign. [2:50:30] » Thank you. >> So I do have the correction. So the [2:50:33] starting budget for the direct allocation should be 12525. [2:50:39] So that increase is the 86,580 with a net of 76,000. [2:50:52] Okay. Next item under tab 36 is FY27 community organization updated funding [2:50:58] recommendation. [2:51:03] » Good morning everyone. How are you? >> Morning. dollar to be dispersed to 52 [2:51:08] organizations and the approval of that amount was part of the FY27 budget [2:51:13] process. Prior to us distributing the funds, which would be after July 1st of [2:51:19] this year, one of the organizations had a strategic change in direction and [2:51:24] asked us to pull their request of $20,000. [2:51:29] I went back to the committee members uh each of which have been appointed by one [2:51:34] of the members of the board and asked them how they would best like to [2:51:39] reallocate the $20,000 and their recommendation was to fully [2:51:44] fund seven of the smaller organizations which I have listed on the chart there [2:51:50] and then the remaining $5,840 to hospice. It wouldn't change the [2:51:56] bottom line. the delta difference for each organization to fully fund the [2:52:01] seven and the hospice equals the $20,000 which was to go to the organization who [2:52:08] changed their mind. So really no change other than to let [2:52:12] the board know that when this list is published, it will look different than [2:52:16] the original published list that we presented, but the bottom line is [2:52:21] different and seven of our small organizations will be able to have the [2:52:25] request fully funded. >> Okay. [2:52:29] » I guess one question is where does this money come from? Is this from the [2:52:33] general fund for >> Yes. [2:52:35] » So we could just put it back into the general fund, couldn't we? [2:52:40] the $20,000 >> you could prior prior to this year that [2:52:46] was 1 million200,000 that the board allocated to community [2:52:50] organizations. We had over 3 million plus maybe even three,500,000 [2:52:58] worth of asks. So, the board upped the amount to $1,300,000 [2:53:03] this year so we could fund, you know, some additional organizations uh because [2:53:08] the asks are incredibly large for the amount of money that is available to be [2:53:12] funded. >> Okay. Thanks. [2:53:15] » You're welcome. [2:53:20] » Motion to approve. >> There's no motion. [2:53:24] » No motion requested for this. Thank you. >> Yeah. [2:53:27] » This is just information. Yeah, just want to make sure that what we publish [2:53:31] is exactly what we will be dispersing and they go disperse in four uh [2:53:36] quarterly to the organizations. >> Very good. [2:53:39] » Thank you very much. >> Thank you. [2:53:40] » Thank you. >> Okay, you guys have an awesome day. [2:53:42] » Thanks for the information. >> Next item under tab 37 is the uh ARC [2:53:50] grant for Fort Richie Sewer Project. [2:54:02] Good morning, commissioners. David Mason, interim director of environmental [2:54:05] management. Uh today, looking for a motion to apply for and accept the [2:54:10] awarded funding for the ARC grant application for recent recently [2:54:14] submitted to Tri County for the Fort Richie sewer infrastructure project. Uh [2:54:20] the county is applying for $44,910 in the grants which will be matched uh [2:54:27] by the county for a total project amount of $898 $820,000. [2:54:32] » So I just wanted to um amend the motion. I did speak with Elizabeth Stalman of [2:54:37] Tri County Council. uh she uh would like our a motion amended to state that we [2:54:42] are submitting the preliminary project description and if selected to apply for [2:54:48] the grant by the Tri County Council review board in July. Um the motion [2:54:53] would uh second motion would be if selected to apply and um we have [2:54:59] permission to uh apply and accept awarded funding from ARC. The county [2:55:03] match would come from the sewer fund uh not from general fund. [2:55:10] Okay. Motion. [2:55:14] » Motion. Okay. Have a second. [2:55:19] » Second >> discussion. [2:55:22] » Yes. >> Just to clarify this. We own this sewer [2:55:25] line. Correct. We as part of theou that was approved um [2:55:30] at the last meeting, it is required that the uh property owner transfer the [2:55:35] infrastructure and the easement to the county and that will be brought back [2:55:39] before the board on June the 30th. So before any contracts would be signed and [2:55:44] before the grant would be applied for, we will own the property as of June [2:55:47] 30th. >> Perfect. Okay, [2:55:50] » we have a motion and a second. Ready to vote? All in favor by saying I. I same [2:55:56] sign 50. Thank you. [2:56:03] » Next item under tab 38 is the 2026 safer grant application request to apply [2:56:11] and accept. [2:56:17] Morning, [2:56:24] commissioners. David Hayes, director of emergency services. [2:56:26] » David Chisum, deputy director of emergency services. [2:56:29] » Uh, commissioners, we're here today. Uh, it's a little bit of a short notice, but [2:56:33] uh, we just received notification about 3 weeks ago that the uh, FY26 [2:56:39] uh, FEMA safer grant opportunity had opened and it's only open until June [2:56:43] 22nd. So, we're in a short window to actually uh seek your approval to apply [2:56:49] and then subsequently do so. So, we're looking today for a motion to authorize [2:56:53] the Division of Emergency Services to submit a FEMA grant uh safer application [2:56:58] to hire uh 24 firefighters and accept the grant funding if awarded. Over the [2:57:03] previous five years, the DEES has continued to place additional full-time [2:57:07] firefighters and multiple fire stations throughout Washington County. While the [2:57:11] addition of these firefighters has increased the number of trained and [2:57:14] certified firefighters on duty each day, there are still many instances where [2:57:18] apparatus and/or departments struggle to get adequate firefighters on apparatus [2:57:22] for call responses. By authorizing the division to hire 24 additional [2:57:26] firefighters, it will enable dees to continually [2:57:30] and strategically place firefighters and additional fire stations throughout the [2:57:34] county. the fiscal impact because this is a grad graduated grant. Uh it is 75% [2:57:40] federal money the first two years and then switches to 35% year three and then [2:57:45] year four is the county's obligation entirety. Uh FY27 [2:57:50] uh if we funded for the full year would be 679,042 [2:57:54] and 36 cents. Uh if we did not hire and we likely could not hire prior to [2:57:59] January 1 of 2027 uh that would only require 30 slightly [2:58:04] over 339,000 in the current fiscal budget that we operate and the [2:58:09] subsequent years would be an additional 679,000 [2:58:13] and in FY29 it would be 1.7 almost 1.8 million and in FY30 and some point in [2:58:19] FY30 the full cost of 2.7 million will transfer to the county. We have [2:58:24] concurrences from obviously myself, Michelle Gordon the county [2:58:27] administrator, Kelsey Mesa the chief financial officer. There is funding [2:58:30] available in our budget that could cover those costs. And I do have uh the [2:58:35] volunteer coordinator, Oie Griffith, is here. And we met last week to brief the [2:58:40] association and their leadership. President Spreer is here as well. Uh we [2:58:44] still have six outstanding letters for requests of support for staffing. Two of [2:58:50] which will be answered through RC8. This would allow us to answer at least two [2:58:55] maybe three more of those letters uh with a successful award. [2:58:59] » What's the total request of uh request? How many firefighters are being [2:59:04] requested by stations right now? Total >> it it's it it somewhat depends [2:59:09] commissioner on how many we put in each of those stations. So, [2:59:12] » but what would be the request like if you added up everybody's request would [2:59:16] be >> normally it's three firefighters on duty [2:59:18] each day, which takes 12 to make that happen, [2:59:21] » right? So you couldn't fulfill what you're [2:59:24] being requested is what you're saying. >> No, this would not complete a full [2:59:28] request to get all of this. What we are benching this off of is response matrix. [2:59:32] So we're trying to make sure that where we see struggles to get adequate [2:59:36] staffing, these would be the stations that we would approach first and place [2:59:39] staffing there. Understanding we can't hire 50 or 100 firefighters at one time. [2:59:43] » Right. >> And I just want to point out that [2:59:45] approval of these 24 positions would be contingent upon approval of this grant. [2:59:50] meaning that if the grant is not approved, we we will not fill those 24 [2:59:53] positions. >> And we applied last year, correct? [2:59:56] » We did. >> And we didn't get it. [2:59:58] » We did not. >> And this year, who who's writing the [3:00:01] grant? Do we have per you guys write it or do we [3:00:04] » write the grant? We use the narrative from our 2021 uh safe grant. We [3:00:09] certainly could actually a grant writer, but they're usually templated grants and [3:00:15] we're prepared to use. >> Is there a reason we weren't accepted [3:00:17] last year? They were not awarded in Maryland last year. [3:00:20] » None were awarded. >> Take that. Read what you want out of [3:00:22] that. But Montgomery and Frederick applied and that's highly unusual that [3:00:29] neither of those two would have gotten. Frederick's been successful at least [3:00:32] four times. I believe >> we were successful a few years ago as [3:00:37] well. >> Yeah, we we received 33 firefighters in [3:00:39] 2021. [3:00:42] » We're confident our grant was the quality of the grant was good. No, I'm [3:00:46] not saying. I'm just curious. >> But it's a highly competitive grant, [3:00:49] too. So, there's only roughly $350 million available and they probably get [3:00:54] over a billion dollars worth of requests. So, it's just possible that we [3:00:59] didn't make >> So, this is a $2.7 million obligation [3:01:03] for the county. Uh, does that include retirement as well? It [3:01:07] » does. Yep. That's total cost. retirement, health insurance, uh social [3:01:12] security, uh taxes, all of those things are are in the formulation that you [3:01:17] would see behind this that drives the number. [3:01:20] » Very good. And if we got the grant, these would all become county employees. [3:01:24] They couldn't be employees of volunteer fire companies, [3:01:27] » correct? They would be county employees. >> Okay. [3:01:30] What's the uh length of our rookie school? [3:01:33] » How many weeks? >> 26 weeks now. [3:01:35] » 26 weeks. So realistically, we're only I mean, [3:01:39] we're if we run two a year, we're >> Yeah. We struggle to get two in a year. [3:01:43] The time we have to go through a hiring process. [3:01:46] » Yeah. >> And then actually implement the uh the [3:01:48] school likely not get two in a year. And this grant typically, and I can't tell [3:01:53] you when we may get notified, good or bad, we just uh last week received the [3:01:58] denial letter from last year's grant. We already knew we didn't get it, but the [3:02:02] official notification just came last year or last week. So this grant [3:02:06] historically has opened in January, February. It did not open until late [3:02:10] May. It historically awards somewhere in the August uh September, October. [3:02:16] Typically by the end of [clears throat] September, the awards are there. So I [3:02:20] can't really tell you when we find notification if we were successful. So [3:02:24] that's where I say I don't believe there's any realistic opportunity to [3:02:27] where we could be hired prior to July one or January 1. [clears throat] [3:02:34] And at that point, we'd be late fall next year getting them to fire stations. [3:02:38] So, this is well over a year process even if we got [3:02:47] » you know I see it as we've missed the grant at least twice, right? [3:02:51] » Yes. The very first one we wrote we did not get. The second one we wrote we did [3:02:56] get. The last one we did not get. So, this would be our fourth. [3:02:59] » And you know, I don't uh I I know what the situation is. been sitting here for [3:03:03] eight years. I would have to approve it because I'm [3:03:06] thinking if we even have a shot of getting it and we're probably not going [3:03:10] to get it again for a few years. That's just my logic. I could be wrong, but [3:03:17] » yeah. And our biggest ask here and why we we push to get here is if we believe [3:03:22] we're going to hire additional firefighters in the next one, two or [3:03:25] three years, we could potentially get them [clears throat] now execute federal [3:03:28] dollars that significantly offset those costs and potentially have those [3:03:32] firefighters here. That number of firefighters in [3:03:34] » That's what I was trying to say, but you said it better. [3:03:38] » Just kidding. >> So, I'd like to make a motion to [3:03:42] authorize. >> I'll second. Okay. Motion and second for [3:03:46] approval as submitted. All in favor by saying I [3:03:50] » I >> opposed. And I'd like to explain my [3:03:52] vote. >> Okay. [3:03:53] » Um I definitely support the fire fighters both paid and volunteer. Um but [3:04:00] I'm a little bit uncomfortable committing $2.7 million uh every single [3:04:05] year for 24 new firefighters. So I know at first it would be a grand would help [3:04:10] us out a little bit, but then we're stuck with this bill. And I'd like to [3:04:13] explore other options like perhaps having the volunteer fire companies hire [3:04:17] their own uh firefighters instead of always having the county come in and [3:04:21] hire them. So that's my vote. Why vote? No. Thank you. [3:04:28] » Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. [3:04:31] Okay. The last item on our open agenda is t under tab 39 [3:04:38] and it's a statement regarding open meetings compliance board decision [3:04:42] issued June 2nd 2026 and >> county commissioners the people of [3:04:47] county statement very clear you are to listen [3:04:51] » you are out of order please sit down >> please stop [3:04:55] » reopen our meetings >> please leave you need to leave now [3:05:00] All fair. [3:05:37] » [clears throat] [3:05:56] » Okay, let me back up and we'll start over Under tab 39, statement regarding [3:06:01] open meetings compliance board decision issued June 2nd, 2026. And as president [3:06:07] of the board of county commissioners, I'll read the following [3:06:11] uh report in brief. Acknowledgement and announcement of open meetings compliance [3:06:15] board OMCB decision discussion. In accordance with section 3-211 [3:06:22] of the general provisions article of the Maryland code, at the next open meeting [3:06:26] of the BOCC, after the OMCB has issued its opinion, a member of the public body [3:06:33] shall announce the the violation and verbally summarize the opin the opinion. [3:06:42] On June 2nd, 2026, the Open Meetings Compliance Board issued an advisory, and [3:06:49] I'll say that again, an advisory opinion in which the Compliance Board found that [3:06:54] the board of county commissioners did did not violate the Open Meetings Act in [3:07:00] meeting with federal officials, revising an agenda less than 24 hours before a [3:07:06] meeting, and removing individuals from several open sessions. The compliance [3:07:11] board determined the board violated the act by not preparing a written closing [3:07:16] statement before convening in an emergency close session or close session [3:07:21] summary. Finally, it was unable to determine whether the board violated the [3:07:26] act in voting to close the meeting for the emergency close session. [3:07:34] So with that, I'm going to ask for a motion to go into close session for the [3:07:40] reasons stated. [3:07:44] » Motion motion and second. All in favor by saying I. I. [3:07:49] » And with that, let's take a five let's take a 10-minute recess. Thank you all.