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Welcome to the Washington City Council meeting, or regular council meeting, for August 26, 2026. Public notice is hereby given that the Washington City Council will hold a public electronic regular meeting on Wednesday, August 26, 2026 at 6 p.m., hosted at Washington City Hall, located 11 North, 100 East, and Washington, Utah. The meeting will be broadcast by YouTube, and it will also be linked online.

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that's on our website at WashingtonCity.org slash meetings if you'd like to review that after the meeting.

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Make mention that there, the agenda changed from its original postings.

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We found something that was more efficient to move it, that nothing was added.

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We're taking away, it's just a different post and we did post it within the time limit after that correction was made.

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I would like to excuse, where we would like to excuse Mayor Staley tonight.

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He's spending some time with his new grandson and his son and daughter-in-law, down in Arizona,

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for some much needed R&R for him, so we hope he's having a good time down there.

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Tonight we're delighted to have with us tonight for the invocation Rev.

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I've run, last, last, is that right?

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They said right, I'll give you the last, yes, that's not you.

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Oh, well, I got some old notes here.

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Would you introduce yourself when you go up

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to give us the invocation?

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Thank you so much.

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Come on up.

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Good evening, I'm Father Robert Wilman, the director

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of Grace Episcopal Church in Cedar City.

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It's a pleasure to be here tonight.

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God bless us all. God bless Washington City. God bless America. Amen.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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and sharing that wonderful prayer.

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We'll now have a pledge of allegiance that will be led by our Black funds back, our public works director.

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Please repeat after me.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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I mentioned

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that we have no need for a closed session.

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Council, if you would like to approve the gentle as outlined or make a part time, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda as outlined.

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Thank you, Councilman Code, second.

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Second by Councilman Henderson, real call, Councilman Beliston.

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second. Second by Bellistan. Second by Bellistan's and then all in favor.

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Bellistan. I, Henderson. I, Caspon. And I, I, I, as well.

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The way of announcements, we have the wonderful celebration of Labor Day coming up on September 7th.

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I don't know that we have many grand celebrations around here, but they sure have a nice one in Lincoln County.

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Nevada. If you want to travel a little bit, they have a really nice celebration over there

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for Labor Day.

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Council, anything to declare tonight, declaration of abstention and conflicts

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on any of our current agenda items. Mayor Pro Tem, item 5A and B, I have a conflict and

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I'll be stepping down from the podium. Thank you, Councilman Coates. So noted. Next item

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one is the consent agenda that consists of approval of minutes, consideration to approve

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the minutes from the City Council meeting of August 12th, 2026.

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Mayor Putem, I'll mean the motion that we approve the consent agenda as outlined.

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Motion by Councillor Beliston. Second. Second by Councillor Henderson.

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All in favour? Hi. Thank you so much. The agenda is approved.

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tonight we have four ordinances.

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We're going to run 5A and 5B together. I'm going to read

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each of them separately. We will discuss them together and then we will vote on them separately.

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The difference is 5A is for a general plan amendment, 5B is for a zone change. So on 5A,

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a consideration to approve an ordinance for general plan amendment, G-26-03, from open

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space to low density. This is located at 1608 North, 590 West. The applicant is Jeff

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Mathis, and Elmgib will be presenting on that, and then on ordinance 5B. This one, as I

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said, will run with 5A. This is consideration to approve an ordinance for zone change,

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Z-26-17 from open space OS to R1-10, located 1608 North, 590 West in that cap.

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Applicant again is Jeff Mathes, our Community Development Director, Eldengib, has this presentation.

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Thank you Mayor, Bro Tem, Council good to be here.

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You can see this highlighted piece of property there.

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It's 0.83 acres and when the land adjacent to this proposal was developed, approximately 2005, 2006,

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it was not included in that original development since this time the land is sold off and the applicant is pursuing a general plan and

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zone change application or amendment.

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The applicant is proposing to change the general plan land use map from open space to low density for the purpose of developing the site into a single family residential lot.

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The applicant has noted in the application that they intend to build a single family home, which would be a single story with the walk out basement.

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This property is in the Hillside overlay, and on April 20th, 2026, the Hillside Review Board reviewed development plans and recommended approval.

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Noting the land be graded for a walkout basement, along with all proposed retaining walls be constructed with natural material that blends in and matches the surrounding land.

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With this item concerning itself with the general plan, it should be known that the zoning designation also needs to be changed, which Mayor Brotem called out.

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And that zone changes to go from open space to R110 as well for the point A3.

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On August 5th, 2026, the Planning Commission reviewed both the general plan and zone change request and recommended approval.

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Noting the home should consist of a single story with walkout basement and the storm drain inlet on the property be reviewed by public works as outlined above and shown in the exhibits that conclude staff report.

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I'm happy to answer any questions you may have at this time.

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Council, any questions for Eldon?

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I don't have any right now.

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That's

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when they came through where the zone change and general plan were done the same night same thing

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I just for a consistency sake if we I'd like them

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You know if we do it here. We got to have a good reason

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We deny it to other people

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Because it'd be great on all applications to come in and do two at once, but a lot of a way separate them out, right?

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So other than that, I don't have any questions. Thank you.

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We'd invite the the applicant up

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it's Jeff Matheson, our new design associates really well

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We were brought into this to look at us to see the feasibility of building a house on this lot

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Well, we've had the contours and the survey done everything look great with the lockout basement

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Obviously, we have to tuck it up close to the full sack

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But the way the grades work out and try to not build key huge of a home

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But I think what would be acceptable for this community actually fits on the site

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So, as far as we're concerned, it's a very feasible site and the questions and comments that we had from the Planning Commission, and there's quite a bit of public comment during that Planning Commission.

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We're able to address those, and I think we have a good solution for this.

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So, quick question. It's .83 acre. Are you guys looking at grading the whole site? No.

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Third of it or a lot. I mean, it's pretty good size.

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Yeah, what it would look like, I mean as far as it would probably be like a 50, so really at the top of the cold

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The sack on the north side, you could have a three car garage, the third car, bigger garage could be right up tucked up

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Against that side, obviously the setbacks would be applicable at that point. And then a two car garage and then the rest of the house can kind of tuck in.

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We did have survey on the Stormbrain Line planning commission brought up and we can fit it.

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you know we're talking 25 or 2800 square foot footprint so that'd be a main

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floor in a basement right so it's not but it wouldn't I mean I would say

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Troy we'd probably be like maybe 50 feet at the the the widest part of that

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coldest sack pushing to the east and I actually drove by the site again on my way

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here tonight just to double check what we're looking at and with the lockout

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basement it wouldn't be, there would be some retaining walls that have to come around there if they do the stacked rock walls that match the landscape, but it wouldn't push, it wouldn't, I mean, yeah.

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The whole idea at this point is just to keep it as tight as we can to the cold the sack and not try to bleed clear out to the edge of the property.

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change held in as just for the

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just to make note that I was actually involved in that hillside review as well and

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They're the only grade that is 30% a grader was man-made for that roadway. Yeah, right on the edge there

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It's got the rock lined edges around the cul-de-sac yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're good with a walk out

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Yeah, it's really I mean it makes the most sense and the owners I think that we're all on board with that

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I think that's what makes the most sense, too, for the neighbourhood and the neighbourhoods as well, so we'll share you seeing that and recognizing it, so.

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Thank you. Anything additional council would you like to hear from Mr. Mathis?

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Thank you very much.

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So the public hearing for this item was held at Pining Commission, and there were comments taken there.

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There's also been public comments that have been distributed to Council is very good at reading

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those and being aware of them and making notes on those things.

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If there was someone here tonight that would allow one, maybe two people that come up,

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they didn't have a chance at that hearing it come to my attention that there were some that

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maybe wanted to make a comment here tonight.

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We were limited to one or two.

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Is there anyone here that would like comment to this item?

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All right.

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Thank you.

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So, Council, I would refer this back to you for a motion or whatever you please.

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Any separate motions or yeah, we're going to do 5a would be considered first the general

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plan of amendment and after that, this is going to change.

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Mayor Patten.

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Oh, I'm sorry, God.

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Just on the constitution here, Mayor's gone, so we are chairman of the meeting is not here.

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Councilor Nivey's, the Acting Mayor, Pro Tem.

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If we met at tonight, he's able to vote as a council member, make motions as a council.

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And that he's performing the pro-

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That's like a mayor with benefits.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, that's what most mayors want.

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It's an unlucky man.

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Council member, I'm not sure which.

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We do have a coron.

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We have more than three, so we don't have to have, we do have the potential of a tight vote

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here, but we don't have to have, you know, everybody vote the same.

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We've got enough that there can be a variance in your viewpoints that what would happen in the case of a tie

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Just so the audience knows a tie without a tie-breaker is a failure to pass

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That's

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what in Bellstone you're ready for emotion. I'll make a motion that we've proven ordinance for general plan amendment

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G-dash 26-03

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From open space to low-density located at

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1608 north 590 west. Thank you. There's a motion to have a second. I'd like to make a second

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but can I have a minute to explain so this is a little bit of a hard vote for me

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sometimes when you're on the city council and something's close to your

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neighborhood it really is hard and it hits home and so the people on this

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coldest sack are very good friends of mine I just live right close by and so I

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know it's tough it's tough when there's changes that happen in your in your

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neighborhood. I really hate to see those beautiful red rocks get covered up, but I want to talk to you a little bit about my perspective on it.

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just so people, you know, in the neighborhood know why.

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I'm voting the way I am.

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So, I've lived up in that neighborhood for 47 years. In fact, as far as I know, myself and my parents have lived north of the freeway longer than anybody that currently lives up there. We moved there 47 years ago. When we moved up there, the few roads that were out there were all dirt roads. And so there was no pavement up there. And so, you know,

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45 years ago, all of the Red Rocks north of my parents' house, all of that beautiful red desert up there was our playground, and we played up there, we hiked up there, we along the Mill Creek Gully there, we had access, we could go access the Gully any time we wanted to, it was beautiful.

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We used to hike up to all of the springs that were up there that have since been covered

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up by development.

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And so, you know, for the last 47 years, every single subdivision, every single house that

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has gone in there has taken a little chunk of our beautiful red rocks away, right?

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But those property owners, and during that whole time, there's been many

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zone changes, many general plan changes. You know, that's just kind of what

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happens. But every one of those property owners up there had a right to

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develop the property that was theirs. And when they purchased the property, whether

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it was from the state or whoever, they then gained those rights to develop the

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the property if it was in reason if it made sense.

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And so as much as I hate to see those red rocks get covered up and as I can feel the pain

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of the neighbors, you know, there's that open space there that's going to disappear.

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I understand because I've been seeing that happen for 47 years but I also understand that

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when somebody buys a piece of property, they then inherit the property rights to develop

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that and to build a house on it.

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And so this property owner has every bit as much right to build a house on that property as every other property owner that's built up there for the last 47 years.

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So it's a hard vote for me, my good friends, my neighbors to say yes to this house, but I kind of feel like to be consistent with what's happened up there for the last 47 years.

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We can't let thousands of people build houses up there and then say no to this guy that just bought a piece of property up there

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So I feel your pain about the

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Pain that goes along with development because none of us like change

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But this person has the right to develop just like we all did

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I mean the house that I live on was once open space the house that my parents live in this

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48 years old was one's open space and so our perspective kind of starts when we move

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here right so my perspective started 47 years ago some people their perspective starts

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last year when they moved here but as a city council we kind of have to look at the whole

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spectrum we have to look at all of it and we have to look at people's rights we have to balance

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the needs of the city against the needs of the immediate neighbors and stuff like that.

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So anyway, that's why I'm going to second that, my Maricopo champs.

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Thank you for your comments.

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I would venture to say that well said, but I would venture to say you got a lot of good

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friends out of it too.

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Absolutely.

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I wouldn't trade it for anything, so some of the people that have moved in out there north

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of the freeway are the best people in the world, so we have welcomed all of them with open

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arms.

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So thank you.

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Thank you, Councilman Henderson, for your comments, appreciate those.

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We have a motion from Councilman Belliston, a second by Councilman Henderson, and we're

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going to do a roll call vote starting with Councilman Henderson.

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Aye.

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Aye

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as well.

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Councilman Casperson.

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Aye.

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And Councilman Belliston.

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Aye.

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Motion passes unanimously.

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Thank you.

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Now we're, Council, if you'd like to make motion on, on be for these own change at this

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time or if you need further discussion or I'll make the motion to an

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improvement ordinance for zone change Z-26-17 from open space to R1 10

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located at 1608 north 590 west and I just want to quickly say to I we

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built our house we were the one of the few homes left on our street and we build

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our house and and it looked like it had been once used as a bicycle track for kids

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And then across our street we have an open lot that has we have a really great view

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But we know that one day our we're gonna have neighbors across the street and

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You it's better sweet because you look forward to having those new neighbors

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But you also there's parts of it that you

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Will miss too, but I agree with what you shared about property rights and

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The entitlements that individuals have to build their homes

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So thank you for sharing those.

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Thank you, Councilman Casperson, for your comments.

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If you have a motion by Councilman Casperson, second?

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Second.

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Second by Councilman Henderson.

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We're going to a roll call vote starting with me and I am an I,

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Casperson.

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Aye.

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Beliston and Henderson.

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That motion carries unanimously.

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It brings us to our next ordinance.

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and welcome Councilman Coates back to the dice 5c,

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which is a continuation of consideration

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to approve an ordinance for zone change Z-26-14 from C1 and R110 to C2.

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It's located at Antigua Lane and George Washington Boulevard.

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Council, any comments or anything you wanted to discuss before we start this process?

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I know it's been in a couple of weeks or anything we want to clarify or discuss before

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we begin the process.

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I just wonder if Elton will pull up the new applicant or the proposed changes they submitted

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to the council so the public can see them.

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Would you?

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There they are.

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Okay.

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So we will start with our community development director Elton Gibble will present on this

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item and then we will give the applicant a chance to speak to it as well.

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Thank you.

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Council, you can see here this is the property concerning itself. This item was tabled during

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the August 12th, if the applicant time to discuss on their side and take any consideration

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those comments. They have come back with an amended site plan. We'll pull up here. You

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can see the front half, 6.07 acres. When I say the front half, that's the piece adjacent to

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George Washington Boulevard, asking to keep that C2 and then the back portion.

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The map shows 3.07 acres of C1.

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This is the amended site plan from two weeks ago.

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So Eldon, can you read off the differences between C1 and C2 just for the record so we

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can see, so the public can see what the differences are?

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If I have a condensed list of differences, there's five different uses.

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I'm going to the C1 to the C2 and it starts with, once you jump into the C2, you're then

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allowed to do retail and or wholesale and or rental of goods, merchandise and equipment,

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which may include storage and display outside and enclosed building, then list some examples

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of those types. It also includes hospitals, hotel or motel, motor vehicle, trailer camper

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and recreational vehicle, sales agencies, and lastly, state approved and operated liquor

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stores.

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Those

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uses still would have to have, for both parcels would have to have conditional

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use permits, correct, because they're adjacent to George Washington Boulevard.

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Great comment, yes, regardless of the use it would be a conditional use permit on this

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property.

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would you consider the entire site, subject to the CUP or only the stuff along George Washington

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Boulevard?

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Because when you say adjacent to the entire parcels adjacent, I would consider it all adjacent

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to.

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I would, maybe, I mean, I, you know, first off this looks to me a lot better than what came

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last time this address is a lot of my concerns to have the C1 up there, you know, closer to the

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residential. But I would like to, I mean, somebody could make the argument. I would like to,

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if we go ahead and pass this, I would like to put in there the conditional use permit would

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pertain to this whole property because I think in the future somebody could make the argument that,

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But, well, there are two different zones, and, you know, you could maybe make the argument

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that only the C2 is adjacent to, you know, so I would like to maybe just specify that

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in a motion.

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So, I think you could do that as a condition to the approval, and I don't think the applicant

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would have a problem with that.

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Ellen, can you scroll in the next exit?

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Exactly, because you got this one, and the next one right there on the west of that shows

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it was a cold attack. Now they're not, and they're showing that on their, and it's been proposed,

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right? It's not going to be part of the, it's not part of this application. Correct. Yeah.

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That's just a possibility about it. Right.

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We have someone join online for a second,

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I should have mute them. Sorry about that.

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What do you mind showing the zoning map and what

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their entitlements are currently? And then that, what do you mind talking about

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on that this point in zoning, what they already have approved, what they could do now,

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because there were some comments that were made via email that they were told that there

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was going to only be residential properties behind them and so I don't know if you wouldn't

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mind if you wouldn't mind talking a little bit about you know what they could do with

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this site right now what legally they have the right to do right now.

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Sure one thing we hear over the years in city government is folks that have been told

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something about their property. Usually it comes from the real estate industry about views or open

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space or or fields and I am not saying that they were lies when they were told but there is there

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is a a trend of statements being made at the time of sales of properties that don't necessarily

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have any authority to to require those things going forward and so zoning is a good example.

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A city council could come in 1995 and zone these lots something and while it is true

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that in 1995 those lots have whatever rights that zoning allowed at that time, a city council

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could come back 10 years later and change those zone designations and the uses that are

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allowed would change with that.

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And so just like the development world reviews can change if somebody buys the empty lot that

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your view crosses or open space can change if the state agency that owns lands for the

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schools decides to sell those lands to make money for the schools zoning can change

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as well. So today where it stands the zoning is R110 which is a residential zone that allows

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residential uses the 10 indicates a number that relates to the amount of density that's

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in there, and there's a number of ways you can accomplish that.

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Most commonly in R110, it's just a single standalone home on a lot.

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C1 is a commercial zone. You can do lesser uses in the commercial zone,

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but C1 and the label of the one is essentially a limit on the uses

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to the C1 category and nothing that's of a bigger nature

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or a more robust nature like an industrial use.

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It is Washington City's practice to allow C-1 type zoning along major collector roadways like George Washington Boulevard and so

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that C-1 would not be considered to be out of place as it relates to other major collector roads that the city's cities.

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You know, identify it on its transportation plans and then brought into existence.

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Does that answer the question you had for me?

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Well, that C-1, C-2, C-3, I mean, we got C-3 on the south side of that road, right?

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So it's going to be a long way to that road.

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I think I appreciate that the developers kept, you know, the single family to the north,

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single family to the west, the other owner of the property to the west is committed to

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keep that residential and in a cul-de-sac or something that doesn't tie back through.

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So the traffic's going to be forced into that intersection or out on to George Washington Boulevard.

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I think it's important to note though that George Washington Boulevard to contract with St.

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George City let out the contract to go from River Road to the new bridge it's being built right there

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by the Dixie Center. So by March of next year Dixie Drive is going to connect all the way through to SR7,

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right so just we need to be prepared that we probably need to look you'll

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revisit the area as far as signaling and whatnot you know down the road and

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have a plan for that in the upcoming future but

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I think the vast majority of the traffic is going to come from George Washington and not. Certainly, the developer and adjacent property owners, that they're going to limit that commercial traffic through the existing neighborhoods. And

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that's going to be a major east-west route from my 15 to SR7. And it's much anticipated with the county, with the DTAC. Well, and to that end, I think, John, it was

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Was it the 2002 master plan or 2005, 2002 was the first time it came across to here and then commercial was 2007 when this area started, I guess, getting identified as commercial for that area.

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So it's been in the works for quite some time.

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Can I ask a question?

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Absolutely.

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In some of the, you know, we read all of the emails that come.

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We really do.

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And we appreciate the input from the neighbors on all of the issues that we look at over the years.

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And a lot of people talk about traffic and a lot of the comments are, you know, these roads weren't made for traffic.

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I'm wondering, Councilman Ivy, if we could have John maybe just come up and tell us a little bit about this particular road, how wide it is and was it built for, you know, heavy traffic or tell us a little bit about that, John?

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Absolutely, Councilman Henderson, John.

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My understanding is out of all of the roads that we have, this is the second largest type of road that we can have in our city, is that correct?

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John, you know when you have to add you up here if you're in the audience, you have to come up, so look excited about it when you come up here.

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Always, always happy to come up here.

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Yeah, you're correct. George Washington is a major arterial. It's our second highest classification.

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You can see we're long, long valley roads coming in. That's our highest as a major arterial.

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So, with the minor arterial, that's an 85 foot right away, basically we were able to put it's definitely meant to handle the amount of traffic.

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That is traversing this.

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So, this was planned years ago to be a road that has a lot of traffic on.

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I was able to track it back to the...

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It's a major collection of the North South of Blue Dash.

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Yeah, the Blue Dash.

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Yeah, sorry. I didn't have my microphone on. I just

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It's a 66 but right away.

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66 major collector. Okay, and

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And that's there is that a three-lane then be three-lane. Okay, we require the the west road be similar to three-lane

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And it was been went in as a just as a standard presidential to the north

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But wouldn't be with it being commercial would we require?

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We would why look at it now as

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a commercial local. Yes.

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Has been transitioned down to a neighborhood road

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when you get to.

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Correct.

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You said to the west, which one are you referring

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to Antigua?

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I'm talking the west, I don't know,

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the west side of the property with the blue dad.

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You just wonder what's the opposite.

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Well, those property owners are proposing cold as sack.

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So you wouldn't have no.

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I'm not talking that.

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I'm talking the road that goes north and south

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that it's on the west side of the proposed property.

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Because right now there's not a master plan road on it,

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but with it being commercialized,

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wondering what size it was required to be.

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No, because I would assume it because it's commercial, it's just a touch bigger than a residential neighborhood.

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So the 50 foot right away, you'd bump up to a 60, probably instead of a 66, which is on the east side of the property.

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Yeah, the east side's 66, and then Antigua right there's 50 foot.

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Well, I'm saying, but because they're proposing commercial, I am asking, doesn't increase.

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And John said he would look at it.

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With the zone change, and what would be there, it would likely be a reclassification

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to a commercial local.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Anything else for Mr. Hunky?

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Thank you.

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We may call you again, so I'll get to comfortable there.

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Okay.

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That concludes staff report.

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I'm happy to answer any other questions that you have any.

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Council, any questions for, for Eldon on this application change from last, yeah, Eldon,

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with the C2, it's allowed vehicle sales and slash repair is correct with the C2, like

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you mentioned, so, but is there a conditional use that's required to go along with that?

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I mean, I know we'll do the C2, but like, it is a permitted use.

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I just want to make sure that any kind is conditional use on anything over 5,000 square feet

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too.

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And I guess the other covered both directions.

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I understand that.

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Sorry.

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I kind of confused my question to you.

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My question was vehicle sales are permitted and you did state that and then I guess my question

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was, I don't think in our city we have designated areas that only vehicle cells can be in.

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Like we have the auto mall up by 13x at 13, but we don't have any, but we can put them

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other place.

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I know St. George has permitted places they allow that, so that's why I asked the question.

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So we did, if you remember, just a few weeks ago or months ago, on the property just

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south of Staley Farm. We carved out some uses. We said there are some uses that we don't want to see there, right?

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And so, I'm just going to run out it. Are there some uses in C2 that we don't absolutely want to see there?

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Like, for instance, an equipment rental place, you know, the ones that have their lifts up in the air and they're all up in the air.

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I mean, is that that's when we should do a PUD C to limit those?

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That's when you would do that, not on straight zoning.

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Or do a permitted list, like exactly what you said,

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like what we did adjacent to Staley Farm.

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So it's screaming as a PUD though.

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Yeah, that's the difference between this project and that project.

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It came in as a PUD and they didn't have their full plan yet.

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And so they asked for a list of uses.

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But it would be highly unlikely,

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it's not something that we do,

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that we would straight zone something but then do we do anything like that?

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The straight zoning gives the list of uses, that's so to Councilman Coates point,

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if we didn't want to see vehicle sales any more in certain areas,

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we'd want to go change the zoning, not pick one particular zone.

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Wasn't allowed in?

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The challenge for a development, I mean, they're trailblazing,

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and so anytime you trailblazing a PED is just incredibly problematic

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and painful to try to work through, because you don't have your use, right?

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At least on the other parcel where they did come in as a PED, they have a pretty dang good idea of how that is going to lay out and work out.

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So, they were able to bring it as a PED, pick their uses and it made sense.

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This one's going to be, I'm not in favor of a PED in this case.

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I know you don't like PEDs.

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Well, I mean, hey, look, quite frankly, if I own that property, I wouldn't want the city council in my back pocket as I'm trying to make financial decisions for the project.

429
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I understand that. I just, I'm a fan of PUDs because it's a blank canvas, and granted I haven't done a lot of deals, so I'm not as stupid as you are with those commercial deals, and I just feel like a PUD is a better application when there is so much concern from the decision.

430
00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:38,230
You know what you were doing?

431
00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:40,490
It's a great tool to have.

432
00:38:41,470 --> 00:38:42,450
And I look at it as a plan.

433
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:44,430
I listen, you can put anything you want.

434
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:46,370
You just got to get negotiated zoning.

435
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:47,290
But that's all I say.

436
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:48,410
I talked about it last meeting.

437
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:51,050
I'm more of a fan of PUDs than straight zoning

438
00:38:51,570 --> 00:38:53,510
and to be consistent with what we've done

439
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:55,050
everywhere else along that road.

440
00:38:56,610 --> 00:39:00,170
I ask somebody who has a parcel of ground

441
00:39:00,170 --> 00:39:03,190
who's been working it for almost a decade.

442
00:39:03,490 --> 00:39:04,010
Not here, though.

443
00:39:04,370 --> 00:39:05,490
Not here, not here.

444
00:39:05,490 --> 00:39:14,870
definitely. And has had to site plan and re plan and and talk to many many different people

445
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:19,190
over the years and bang my head against that brick wall. It's just it makes it really tough

446
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:24,870
to not have zoning that allows to be able for the developer to be able to come in and make that

447
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:30,350
and negotiate. Now if they if they had the zoning and they want to come in and do some modified

448
00:39:30,350 --> 00:39:32,290
but it modifies only once they have a tenant

449
00:39:32,290 --> 00:39:34,050
because a PUD makes sense to create,

450
00:39:34,670 --> 00:39:37,530
but not on something like this, it just does not.

451
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:38,690
It does not work.

452
00:39:38,910 --> 00:39:39,510
It makes, it's a,

453
00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:43,670
you sever your Achilles heel in that type of a deal.

454
00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:47,130
So, I appreciate,

455
00:39:47,470 --> 00:39:49,290
I guess the other thing to add though,

456
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:50,470
I appreciate they did.

457
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:52,670
We granted them the general plan,

458
00:39:53,330 --> 00:39:55,290
which would allow C1,

459
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:57,750
get them the commercial uses,

460
00:39:58,470 --> 00:40:00,130
and they've kept that C1 buffer

461
00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:08,190
to the C2. So no existing homeowner is going to be directly adjacent to either the C1 or the C2, right?

462
00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:09,430
So there's

463
00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:16,740
a little give and take across the board with everybody I think.

464
00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:20,440
Thank you for your comments, a good discussion. One thing that might be helpful,

465
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,600
and would you share with those that may not know all the acronyms that we use?

466
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,300
Would you explain a conditional use permit how that applies to the zoning process just so everyone is aware of them?

467
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:38,840
You bet, so conditional use permit, it's a way to take different zonings.

468
00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:46,060
For example, here we've got a commercial here that is relatively close to residential.

469
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:57,160
So conditional use permits allow a few more eyes on the project to help rule out and

470
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:11,440
minimize that buffer between those incompatibility of uses residential and commercial such as light mitigation, landscaping depth, height,

471
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:25,260
roadways, anything that could help transition and buffer between those two uses is what a conditional use permit looks at.

472
00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:30,740
So it's an additional tool to be used to help make it a compatible use, going forward.

473
00:41:31,580 --> 00:41:32,200
Correct.

474
00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:36,480
And to minimize the difference

475
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:39,970
in uses.

476
00:41:40,530 --> 00:41:40,850
Thank you.

477
00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:45,030
Any other questions for Elton before we bring up the applicant?

478
00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:54,450
Just to clarify before that, what we're seeing tonight, are we, we will be voting later on

479
00:41:54,450 --> 00:42:01,150
this meeting on this application that you identified tonight, that the 6.07 of C2 on the

480
00:42:01,890 --> 00:42:07,630
road, George Washington Roadway, the 5.26 C1 to the north. Is that what we're voting on

481
00:42:07,630 --> 00:42:12,130
tonight just to be very clear? Correct, that's the updated site plan that

482
00:42:12,130 --> 00:42:14,930
the applicant is asking for, either approval or denial.

483
00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:19,930
Approval already denial, thank you very much. Okay, council, anything else before we bring

484
00:42:19,930 --> 00:42:22,530
the applicant. The light clarified applicant

485
00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:28,110
representative please come on up council

486
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,720
members. I appreciate

487
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:41,300
up to eight to speak with you again tonight as it identifies the heeding snow on behalf of Capitol

488
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:50,280
funding. Thank you. Thank you. Limited. Now it's official. And I am also the property owner to the

489
00:42:50,280 --> 00:43:01,040
West that my property directly abuts St. George Washington Boulevard as well so and I've

490
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:08,500
been to the government first and as an alias Robert McPherson is deceased and I helped

491
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:16,180
with the probate of yeah has a state and his children and they had a hard time figuring

492
00:43:16,180 --> 00:43:20,100
out what to do with their property they wanted it all sold but they didn't agree

493
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:26,780
to trust each other on how to sell it and so we offered to buy it from them because they

494
00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:29,380
all trusted us but not each other.

495
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:36,860
Looking at this, we do feel like we have made multiple

496
00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:45,420
concessions in this and listening to the different concerns of residents. We feel like we have

497
00:43:45,420 --> 00:43:50,700
address those. We recognize that the general

498
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:55,900
plan amendment does not proceed to give us the ability for

499
00:43:55,900 --> 00:44:02,040
sure to seek C2 zoning, but I would indicate that properties

500
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:11,480
to the east of this are all C2 and just like I heard some very

501
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:17,720
eloquent comments from both of these two council members. Things change and

502
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:26,120
perspectives are normally only set from when you moved to an area. And we also

503
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:33,640
heard our public works director tell us that this road connecting through from

504
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:44,260
Staley Farms all the way out to the new Southern Parkway was in your road's master plan since 2002.

505
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:52,900
I would tell you that it is also was in commercial out near the Southern Parkway out there.

506
00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:58,140
I think was in your general plan as early as 2007 as my understanding.

507
00:44:58,140 --> 00:44:59,940
So, um,

508
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,840
Looking at those and there are many people I'm sure, especially to the north, that may predate that. And their perspectives and what they anticipated would be built in this area may be different than others. However, when you have a road that over time, things change. And zoning can change.

509
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:36,240
to your actual zoning is not a guarantee that it will always in perpetuity remain that

510
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:41,900
same zone because things change just as George Washington Boulevard has changed.

511
00:45:42,380 --> 00:45:49,160
As soon as Washington City realized that St. George City wanted to put and connect this

512
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,840
all the way through so that individuals could drive from the southern parkway in Washington

513
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,440
and get on all the way through over another bridge

514
00:45:58,790 --> 00:46:01,140
over the river and onto the freeway.

515
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,020
This perspective changed for the city

516
00:46:06,020 --> 00:46:08,840
and this became a major arterial,

517
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:11,760
from a minor arterial.

518
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,540
Also, there was the appreciation too

519
00:46:16,540 --> 00:46:18,200
that this type of connection,

520
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,440
developments like Long Valley of States,

521
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:28,340
states that this would become a needed or necessary hub for at least, if nothing else,

522
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:33,520
neighborhood commercial, likely community commercial for the whole area.

523
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:41,620
And so because of things have changed, general plans have changed, road master plans have

524
00:46:41,620 --> 00:46:55,480
changed, and so have the desire of an applicant, it would seem only reasonable to have commercial

525
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:06,980
along the commercial of a sea-to-nature along the second busiest road in Washington City.

526
00:47:09,350 --> 00:47:20,610
And we have tried to address some feathering or transitioning by putting C1 towards the

527
00:47:20,610 --> 00:47:20,990
back.

528
00:47:22,180 --> 00:47:30,030
We have identified that we will not have through traffic out of this development into the

529
00:47:30,030 --> 00:47:37,350
parcel north of mine, the one that is at my client's own as well, which is a concession

530
00:47:37,350 --> 00:47:45,910
to them. They haven't asked for that portion to be commercial. And we have even in the general

531
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:55,550
plan amendment agreed to the jog that we see up there. So I also want to speak to one other point

532
00:47:58,510 --> 00:48:08,890
about PUDs. PUDs, and I've been a municipal attorney for 24 years, and you've got a fantastic

533
00:48:08,890 --> 00:48:14,050
one, I think I said that last time. But I will tell you this,

534
00:48:16,780 --> 00:48:20,240
PUDs are great. PUDs often

535
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:26,220
times have what we call a take-off period, that they give an applicant some time in which

536
00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:34,400
to commence development of the PUD if it is going to be just a general list of possible

537
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:44,260
uses in Washington City, that is 18 months. That can be extended once by the community

538
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,360
development director, the zoning administrator for six months and one more time for another

539
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,540
six months by the City Council and that is all that is allowed by your ordinance. So you

540
00:48:54,540 --> 00:49:04,080
are asking us by asking us to go to a PUD to take that plane and get it running down

541
00:49:07,580 --> 00:49:16,920
the tarmac and getting it up off the ground and fully flying to the detail of what a PUD

542
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:22,600
requires within two and a half years at the longest, likely a year and a half.

543
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:30,920
So, when someone is trailblazing or first out, if the area is green and we're coming there,

544
00:49:31,890 --> 00:49:35,100
we don't know what is all the needs there.

545
00:49:35,340 --> 00:49:52,580
And as homes continue and as traffic counts are becoming better identified when long

546
00:49:52,580 --> 00:49:54,100
followed to I-15.

547
00:49:57,540 --> 00:50:05,560
No one really knows. And so a lot of commercial tenants, users need

548
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:14,880
to see data before they are willing to come. And so in our mind, a PUD with just uses,

549
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:21,680
all that is is starting the PUD process. But the PUD process isn't finalized as I read

550
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:28,160
your ordinance until we actually come in within that 18 months or 24 months or 30 months

551
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,900
whatever it may be with extensions and we put a whole site plan, conceptual plan together

552
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:43,160
showing you buildings, locations, road configuration, you know travel configuration within it and showing

553
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,420
when you side elevations, all of those things.

554
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,740
And that is when the PUD is truly finalized.

555
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,680
So it just leaves a big open, in my mind, a PUD

556
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,500
in this situation unless we do exactly who all of the tenants

557
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:03,920
would be and how the uses will be

558
00:51:04,420 --> 00:51:06,160
is like kicking the can down the road

559
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,560
and it's only a short road.

560
00:51:09,260 --> 00:51:10,840
Mr. Snow, let me answer you questions.

561
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,800
So, yep, so what you're asking for is the straight zoning, though, right?

562
00:51:15,820 --> 00:51:23,540
It is, it is a straight zoning, but a split zoning, and I would ask, there was someone

563
00:51:23,540 --> 00:51:28,200
asked the question, I don't know, but I would be happy to talk with my clients, if there's

564
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:37,900
a concern over a specific type of use, I appreciate that Jeremy made the comment that he did, but

565
00:51:37,900 --> 00:51:44,720
But it is not uncommon in the municipalities that I represent and in the municipalities

566
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:52,080
that I practice before and behalf of developers to have a straight zoning, have conditions

567
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:56,960
which limit certain uses of concern for the area.

568
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:04,120
It can be made in the motion to approve and it can indicate that it needs to be reflected

569
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:10,620
in the conditional use permit when that is applied for by the applicant. I think that

570
00:52:10,620 --> 00:52:18,660
is the most simple way to do that. Does okay, you're okay, she can work out as a, so

571
00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:26,820
we appreciate your comments, thank you so much. So as I said earlier, the public hearing was held

572
00:52:26,820 --> 00:52:33,440
at the Pining Commission level. Then Mayor Staley allowed comments two weeks ago. He's really

573
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,060
get to do that and we want to be fair tonight and make sure everyone is heard here tonight as well

574
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:45,160
so we don't we're not going to have another public hearing but there can be a uh I would accept

575
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:52,560
maybe one or two people that come up and and speak hopefully in a constructive way about the

576
00:52:52,560 --> 00:53:02,080
applicants um their new application which from their own admission they've tried to accommodate

577
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,900
some of the concerns from the existing homeowners there and so again we're

578
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:10,920
not we're not going to have another public hearing but we could have if

579
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:17,280
someone a designated or someone that would like to come up and speak to this I

580
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,440
would like you to consider that this is an effort to find the middle ground we've

581
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,820
heard some really good comments tonight about building the community and how

582
00:53:25,820 --> 00:53:29,540
communities change and how they need to change and how they need to stay

583
00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:36,480
current and relevant with growth so I would I would hope that you at least can see

584
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,140
this as an effort to find your way to the middle so is there anyone that would

585
00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:46,480
like to come up and speak to this in a can

586
00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:54,690
I make one comment please I think we

587
00:53:54,690 --> 00:53:58,890
need to remember that the general plan on this has already been changed it's already

588
00:53:58,890 --> 00:54:04,490
community commercial is that correct? Correct, it is not. So it's going to be

589
00:54:04,490 --> 00:54:09,730
commercial, that's already a given. And so what we're doing tonight is the

590
00:54:09,730 --> 00:54:15,170
zoning. What kind of commercial is it going to be? So we know it's already

591
00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:19,070
commercial because it's community commercial, right? So we're doing zoning tonight.

592
00:54:19,570 --> 00:54:26,090
Yeah, sure. So again, Chris Kurs, but Jessica, I resident. So let's go back to

593
00:54:26,090 --> 00:54:29,610
what you just said. We already know it was going to be zone commercial. It was originally

594
00:54:29,610 --> 00:54:33,610
zone commercial, right? It was a neighborhood commercial parcel. We go back to the general

595
00:54:33,610 --> 00:54:38,730
plan that everybody's been referencing this evening and the latest incarnation of it, which

596
00:54:38,730 --> 00:54:45,790
is dated to 2017, it shows that that section there on to the south was originally neighborhood

597
00:54:45,790 --> 00:54:52,690
commercial and it was supposed to be feathered going east out the SR7 neighborhood C1, C2.

598
00:54:52,690 --> 00:54:59,810
The reason for that, again, is that it is bordering low density and very low density housing.

599
00:55:00,550 --> 00:55:06,970
On two separate occasions, your own city planning commission has stated this is an improper

600
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:14,970
change in accordance with your own guidelines, that there is not supposed to be C1, let alone

601
00:55:14,970 --> 00:55:21,050
C2 commercial, directly bordering low density and very low density housing in the city.

602
00:55:22,370 --> 00:55:30,130
You already have orchestrated commercial C1, C2 at the intersection of George Washington

603
00:55:30,130 --> 00:55:32,850
Boulevard and Washington Fields Road.

604
00:55:32,850 --> 00:55:35,870
You've got a grocery store going in there right community service.

605
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:40,090
You have other businesses that are going to be coming in.

606
00:55:41,850 --> 00:55:46,010
Third and Buma, half a mile from here, meant to meet that community need.

607
00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:50,870
You also have the intersection of SR7 and George Washington Boulevard.

608
00:55:51,330 --> 00:55:56,550
That, according to the general plan that is still on the city website, was meant to be

609
00:55:56,550 --> 00:55:58,350
designated for this purpose here.

610
00:55:59,290 --> 00:56:05,730
C2 was never meant to be pushed this close up to very low density and low density residential.

611
00:56:06,450 --> 00:56:08,510
There is no appropriate feathering here.

612
00:56:09,010 --> 00:56:12,590
Even if you go with this plan here, you say, okay, well, we're only going to do six acres

613
00:56:12,590 --> 00:56:16,650
as C2 and then the top acreage is going to be C1.

614
00:56:17,090 --> 00:56:22,090
You're still butting C1 directly next to very low density and low density housing.

615
00:56:22,590 --> 00:56:27,430
Which is completely contrary to what the City of Washington has told the tax paying residents

616
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:29,190
they would do with the development of the city.

617
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:30,570
It's completely contrary.

618
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,800
This is an improper change.

619
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,420
It is absolutely going to impact the neighborhood.

620
00:56:37,860 --> 00:56:43,080
It's going to impact everything from traffic to property values to the quality of life and

621
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,200
living on the people there, many people who have had homes up on majestic, first homes

622
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:52,500
that are 20 and 25 years old, that people have been living in since it was built.

623
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,480
If you go back to the general plan, when we purchased our home, I did my due diligence,

624
00:56:57,620 --> 00:57:02,320
I looked at the city of Washington, Utah's general plan to see what is coming in this area

625
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:02,600
here.

626
00:57:03,460 --> 00:57:07,840
In your own general plan stated, we're going to have residential that's going to be feathered

627
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,260
out eventually to neighborhood, then C1 and C2, and if you go back to the general plan

628
00:57:12,260 --> 00:57:18,220
that was just back in February of this year, it demonstrates that's what was in place,

629
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:20,400
that's what we anticipated was going to be developed.

630
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,920
Nobody has said that they were against neighborhood commercial being developed there.

631
00:57:26,620 --> 00:57:28,600
Not a single resident, we all knew that was coming.

632
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,320
What we asked was that the city adhere to its own rules with development,

633
00:57:33,860 --> 00:57:39,440
and that they allow appropriate feathering from very low density and low density

634
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:45,180
before going to see one let alone C2 and what you're contemplating tonight is

635
00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:48,300
that all the people here who have the parcel set are less than a block away

636
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:52,760
one on the caddy one on the corner that is bordering will now have to accept

637
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,440
the fact that I'm going to be looking at potentially a C2 zone commercial with no

638
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:03,020
PUD and then this developer here who purchased the lot for the purpose of

639
00:58:03,020 --> 00:58:06,460
making this change they can turn around so a lot and because it's now been

640
00:58:06,460 --> 00:58:09,320
change to C2, the next developer can put whatever they want in.

641
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,000
So these people on these one acre and half acre lots are going to be staring at the back

642
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,140
of who knows what's going to go in there as long as it fits the C2 definition.

643
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:24,040
Maybe they're staring at a home depot, maybe they're staring at a car sales block, right?

644
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:26,020
Anything that fits in that definition.

645
00:58:29,970 --> 00:58:36,530
When we purchased our home, as many of the residents that are here tonight that reside within

646
00:58:36,530 --> 00:58:42,930
of vicinity here. We were all under the impression that the city of Washington was going to abide

647
00:58:42,930 --> 00:58:50,490
at least in the most general and normal of terms with the general plan, with what the city

648
00:58:50,490 --> 00:58:55,090
intended for the area. We all recognized George Washington's boulevard went all the way through.

649
00:58:55,370 --> 00:58:59,570
We all recognized it was going to be connecting around that. We all recognized commercial was going

650
00:58:59,570 --> 00:59:05,950
to go in. But the commercial zoning needs to be done appropriately. It needs to be feathered

651
00:59:05,950 --> 00:59:12,550
properly. You can't but see to right up next to acre and half acre parcels. It's not proper.

652
00:59:12,750 --> 00:59:18,470
It's against your own city general plan. Your planning commission agrees with me on two

653
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:24,450
separate occasions. They voted unanimously to state this was improper and they did not approve it.

654
00:59:25,150 --> 00:59:30,430
So why the city council is choosing to put their own planning commission? That I don't know.

655
00:59:30,670 --> 00:59:35,010
I don't understand the reason behind that. But you have a planning commission that's entailed

656
00:59:35,010 --> 00:59:39,410
will listen to the residents taking all the information in and come into conclusion making

657
00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:44,410
a recommendation that on two occasions now has recommended this should not go through.

658
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:47,810
And yet it's been pushed through and pushed through and pushed through the point that in

659
00:59:47,810 --> 00:59:51,730
February, oh, we're going to take this neighborhood commercial and make a thin strip of C-1.

660
00:59:52,070 --> 00:59:55,910
So now we want to make the whole block open, C-2, whatever you want to put in.

661
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:59,970
If they give it from a tax-paying resident perspective, because the only-

662
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:24,580
I can think of what's going on here. How are we being represented? We say you're listening to the concerns of residents. How many times have we come up to the podium and spoken? How many letters have we submitted to the council respectfully so? Well, we appreciate your comments. We really do. We work hard and we're trying to find. And I know you're in a tough position. I recognize that. But this is not a tough position because you have a complete open desert to the east of it.

663
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:31,540
This is being shoved through, and this is contrary to what the City of Washington has told

664
01:00:31,540 --> 01:00:34,140
its residents was going to be the pathway for development.

665
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,660
Thank you so much.

666
01:00:35,900 --> 01:00:36,440
Thank you.

667
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,640
Councillor, would you like to hear anyone else before we consider the motion?

668
01:00:52,380 --> 01:00:55,100
I think we have heard a lot of people, but it's up to you.

669
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,640
I think we've heard a lot of people watch the planning commission.

670
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,800
That's all the comments that we're going to take.

671
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:07,280
If it's just if you want anything else before we consider a motion if you'd like to have anything we could accommodate that

672
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:07,980
Yeah,

673
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:18,380
I mean I want to get a couple things on the on the record, right? I I

674
01:01:18,380 --> 01:01:18,800
Understand

675
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,640
People's concerns. I really do.

676
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,740
I also understand that the guy that owns a property has a right to

677
01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:32,180
Right and his

678
01:01:34,550 --> 01:01:41,750
desires a general plan is something that a city council at least until he comes in and makes an application or

679
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:44,110
It goes to zoning or it goes to the future entitlements.

680
01:01:45,410 --> 01:01:50,950
That's a council plan, and that's a, we're doing this number, right?

681
01:01:51,550 --> 01:01:53,810
That's not a, that's not a line

682
01:01:56,050 --> 01:01:57,790
in the sand that says it can't be changed.

683
01:01:57,810 --> 01:01:59,930
There's a reason why there's an application process.

684
01:02:01,130 --> 01:02:10,740
Being somebody that has done this before, I also understand that commercial elevates the

685
01:02:10,740 --> 01:02:16,520
community and I know that's hard to understand here or to to agree with but

686
01:02:20,330 --> 01:02:21,270
the lens project

687
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:28,510
over there there's there's residential directly adjacent to the lens project right across

688
01:02:28,510 --> 01:02:35,550
the fields and lens is a C2 you know I don't think that's an offensive project and I think

689
01:02:35,550 --> 01:02:40,330
a lot of the people here have been there lens I go there lens it's a great product you know

690
01:02:40,330 --> 01:02:40,830
or

691
01:02:43,580 --> 01:02:47,540
to recognize that just as much as the applicant

692
01:02:47,540 --> 01:02:50,840
that has a right to do with his property,

693
01:02:51,340 --> 01:02:54,760
I would defend every resident's right in the same manner

694
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,500
if you chose to do something with your property

695
01:02:56,500 --> 01:02:59,360
if it made sense and was within reason, right?

696
01:03:01,770 --> 01:03:07,930
I think it's also fair that in general,

697
01:03:09,450 --> 01:03:11,050
people are resistant to change.

698
01:03:11,850 --> 01:03:19,170
I think the fear of the unknown sometimes is worse than the actual and I'll use this example.

699
01:03:19,950 --> 01:03:28,750
We had a group in front of this council that was adjacent to a piece of ground, there was

700
01:03:28,750 --> 01:03:29,110
a formal

701
01:03:31,410 --> 01:03:37,950
application that came in to change it to a park and they hated the idea of a park,

702
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:38,990
right?

703
01:03:39,610 --> 01:03:41,230
Because they didn't want to have to listen to the kids.

704
01:03:41,970 --> 01:03:48,270
That's an extreme example, but the reality was that neighborhood was resistant to change.

705
01:03:48,450 --> 01:03:50,990
They didn't want to have to, they liked their comfort zone.

706
01:03:51,250 --> 01:03:52,210
They liked the way it was.

707
01:03:52,670 --> 01:03:52,750
They

708
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:58,860
appreciate that.

709
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,520
Make concessions and kept a residential buffer.

710
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:20,100
He's also maintained a further buffer from the C2 to that area request

711
01:04:22,310 --> 01:04:23,090
for him to make.

712
01:04:34,870 --> 01:04:43,050
I will make a motion to approve an ordinance for going to change Z-26-14 from C-1 and R-1-10

713
01:04:43,050 --> 01:04:47,610
to C-2 located at Antigua Lane and George Washington Boulevard from

714
01:04:50,780 --> 01:04:53,340
C-1 and R-1-10 to C-1

715
01:04:53,340 --> 01:04:56,740
and C-2 with the additional-

716
01:04:56,740 --> 01:04:56,740
I

717
01:05:07,140 --> 01:05:08,900
have a motion by Councilman Beliston.

718
01:05:09,060 --> 01:05:09,740
Do we have a second?

719
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:12,520
Second?

720
01:05:12,980 --> 01:05:15,520
I have a second by Councilman Henderson.

721
01:05:16,460 --> 01:05:17,980
We'll start the roll call.

722
01:05:18,060 --> 01:05:19,760
Councilman Beliston, may I just clarify

723
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,820
if we're going to take in your condition

724
01:05:22,820 --> 01:05:25,900
that the entire partial be subject

725
01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:27,220
to a condition to use permit.

726
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:33,440
Can you add any specifics as to what you're wanting

727
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,660
to have be conditional?

728
01:05:34,660 --> 01:05:38,640
So, are you saying subject to the condition of use as?

729
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,640
You're talking about each building as it comes forward would be subject to a condition of use permit.

730
01:05:43,980 --> 01:05:44,100
Correct.

731
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,840
I mean, they could bring the whole thing together and have one CUP if they wanted to, but

732
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,120
if they, but each building would have to come in with the, with the CUP.

733
01:05:52,700 --> 01:05:56,540
So, every structure would be subject to see condition of use permit process?

734
01:05:57,460 --> 01:05:57,820
Correct.

735
01:05:57,980 --> 01:06:01,840
I mean, if they split it up and they brought in one parcel and it would be subject to it.

736
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,660
But everything within this entire site would be subject to the government.

737
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:12,820
I'm asking to clarify not to debate, so you guys want to make sure that was clear for the record and for staff, right?

738
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:15,420
Okay, so we have a motion and a second.

739
01:06:15,620 --> 01:06:18,720
We're going to start with a roll call vote with Councilwoman Kasperson.

740
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:19,540
Nay.

741
01:06:19,940 --> 01:06:21,620
Is a nay, Councilman Belsen.

742
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:22,100
Aye.

743
01:06:22,660 --> 01:06:23,040
Anderson.

744
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:25,060
The votes.

745
01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:25,500
Aye.

746
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:26,620
I.E.

747
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:28,080
Is an aye.

748
01:06:40,460 --> 01:06:41,340
We

749
01:06:58,870 --> 01:07:14,330
have a 5D which is consideration to approve an ordinance for zone change Z-26-16 from R-1-6 to PUD are located at 525 North 100 East.

750
01:07:14,330 --> 01:07:22,490
The applicant is Michael Fortune, and we will have this presented by our community development director, Elvin Gim.

751
01:07:24,700 --> 01:07:25,180
Thank you, Council.

752
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,660
There's a little bit of history here with Main Street connecting to I-15.

753
01:07:29,660 --> 01:07:32,480
We had a pretty good discussion there at the planning commission level.

754
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,080
I don't want to bore you with those big conversations.

755
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,040
I'm pretty sure you guys are aware of what happened.

756
01:07:40,180 --> 01:07:44,680
You'd have purchased and the excessive land there, so we'll dig into this application.

757
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:45,400
It

758
01:07:52,540 --> 01:08:04,300
concerns itself of .71 acres, and the proposal includes five detached units, 400 square feet in size, and one manager's unit, 600 square feet in size.

759
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:10,620
Each of the five units will be provided with a 10 by 10 shed and front patio area.

760
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:19,920
Provided parking is two stalls for each unit with an additional two visitor parking stalls for a total of 14 spaces.

761
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:25,900
the managers unit will have one attached garage parking is adequate as shown.

762
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:33,500
The can is asking for setback relief for both covered parking structures.

763
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:36,660
You can see the blue area there.

764
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,020
They're tucked right next to the property line.

765
01:08:39,420 --> 01:08:43,040
The applicant's asking for a zero setback in that regard.

766
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,560
And those setbacks will need to be approved by the City Council.

767
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:58,600
On August 19th, the Planning Commission reviewed this request and unanimously recommended approval onto the council based on the findings and conditions below.

768
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:07,760
Noting this project should remain available for aging Utah veterans for its entirety and parking should be increased.

769
01:09:08,380 --> 01:09:17,420
I would like to just read condition number 13, which was added from the Planning Commission, which states this development shall remain available for.

770
01:09:17,420 --> 01:09:22,760
and committed to providing affordable housing to aging Utah veterans for its entirety.

771
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,440
That concludes staff report. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

772
01:09:27,860 --> 01:09:30,580
Elden, is it a requirement that they have covered parking?

773
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,040
Or is this what the applicant wants to do?

774
01:09:35,740 --> 01:09:38,840
They are required to have covered parking.

775
01:09:40,020 --> 01:09:42,240
The applicant's asking for setback relief.

776
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,780
Yeah, I'm good with the setback relief because of the situation.

777
01:09:45,780 --> 01:09:49,620
I just don't feel like we should require them to do cover parking when we're trying to reduce costs

778
01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:54,140
So that's more affordable and then we say well you got to add all these extra costs for cover parking

779
01:09:54,140 --> 01:09:59,140
Which maybe they want to do it. I just I think this is an aspect we should look at

780
01:09:59,140 --> 01:10:02,440
And I'd love to hear from the applicant on their thoughts on that portion

781
01:10:03,020 --> 01:10:09,800
because I'm not I mean I don't mean with $10,000 $15,000 but every $1,000 hurts when you're trying to get some

782
01:10:10,700 --> 01:10:13,280
relief on this affordable housing and it's already a

783
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:19,100
location on it's adjusted to the on rat by 15 and we're just trying for some

784
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:24,840
affordable housing I want to make it still nice but useful as well that's

785
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,840
just the question but it is a requirement we told them they had to have

786
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,000
correct correct

787
01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:37,530
yes it it is required and it's kind of a nice for the veterans

788
01:10:37,530 --> 01:10:44,870
to have covered parking how hot how hot it is it's not hot it's warm I think we

789
01:10:47,490 --> 01:10:59,090
I don't know, I just, I know we require it, but anything we can save, and I'm sure they would like it maybe that much of a cost. I don't know. I've never purchased a parking garage for myself.

790
01:10:59,670 --> 01:11:04,450
Is the applicant say that they are going to require the covered parking or is it an optional?

791
01:11:05,370 --> 01:11:13,870
That didn't come into play until staff required it as per city ordinance. So I think it'd be okay not doing covered parking but we would definitely want to clear that up with them.

792
01:11:13,870 --> 01:11:16,130
Council be more comfortable with making that optional.

793
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:22,610
I think this is a great use for these unusual parcels.

794
01:11:23,050 --> 01:11:26,570
And I'm, you know, I don't care about the covered part.

795
01:11:26,830 --> 01:11:28,390
You know, I'm indifferent about it.

796
01:11:30,530 --> 01:11:31,490
Is the applicant here?

797
01:11:32,190 --> 01:11:32,330
Yeah.

798
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:34,730
Hold on just one second.

799
01:11:36,490 --> 01:11:39,570
I'll do anything else that you'd like to share with the...

800
01:11:40,130 --> 01:11:43,090
I did forget to mention you don't own the property.

801
01:11:43,090 --> 01:11:49,010
the Africans do in a 99-year lease so they would construct the buildings, drop them, and

802
01:11:49,470 --> 01:11:55,270
then at the end of the 90, 90-year, either re-op or disassemble the project, and you know,

803
01:11:55,330 --> 01:11:56,170
it would take the land again.

804
01:11:57,230 --> 01:11:57,670
Okay.

805
01:11:58,210 --> 01:11:58,650
Anything else?

806
01:11:59,410 --> 01:11:59,630
Please.

807
01:12:03,690 --> 01:12:08,190
Okay, with Fortune representing USA Project Dollar, and I just want to say, first of all, thank

808
01:12:08,190 --> 01:12:08,450
you.

809
01:12:08,490 --> 01:12:13,190
This has been a project that we've been working on for a really long time, and we want to

810
01:12:13,190 --> 01:12:16,650
I think Governor Spencer Cox for his leadership and working with this partnership.

811
01:12:17,290 --> 01:12:22,010
His office Steve Waldrop, Matt Meyer up there, but then the entire Washington City staff

812
01:12:22,010 --> 01:12:24,590
and Mayor Staley, but also the planning commission as well.

813
01:12:24,730 --> 01:12:29,190
So thank you to everyone for helping us bring this to this point and we really appreciate

814
01:12:29,190 --> 01:12:29,450
it.

815
01:12:30,150 --> 01:12:36,670
About the cover parking, I think it's something that I'm from northern Utah and 110 today was

816
01:12:36,670 --> 01:12:37,270
kind of crazy.

817
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:42,170
And so I agree with you, Councilwoman Casperson, that the cover parking would be nice, but

818
01:12:42,170 --> 01:12:48,010
with you, Council Member Coates, I think it would be reasonable to make it optional because

819
01:12:48,010 --> 01:12:54,570
we haven't priced everything out to see what this project is going to fully cost. From

820
01:12:54,570 --> 01:12:57,450
that standpoint, with the improvements of what we need to do, we know what the housing

821
01:12:57,450 --> 01:13:04,210
costs, Korean and R, and stuff like that. We're trying to do this to provide our struggling

822
01:13:04,210 --> 01:13:10,510
aging veterans who are going to fix the income, and they may be running a studio now for $400

823
01:13:10,510 --> 01:13:16,230
$500 a month, and on their fixed stipend from the government, that's $1,000, if their

824
01:13:16,230 --> 01:13:22,290
landlord realizes they can increase that price to $7 or $800, you know, now their choices

825
01:13:22,290 --> 01:13:23,590
are very limited in what they can do.

826
01:13:24,130 --> 01:13:27,230
And so sort of these gets sold to the veterans or you just rent it to them.

827
01:13:27,550 --> 01:13:34,030
They are leased, so the USA Project Valor provides kind of, we looked at what other organizations

828
01:13:34,030 --> 01:13:34,790
are able to do.

829
01:13:35,010 --> 01:13:39,970
The VA has some great programs, community organizations have great programs to out veterans find

830
01:13:39,970 --> 01:13:45,230
relief through medical help stuff like that but the biggest thing is housing and you can't

831
01:13:45,230 --> 01:13:49,490
really get help if you don't have an address or a place to call home and that was the missing

832
01:13:49,490 --> 01:13:54,730
gap that we saw and we're deciding to to fill that need and so it was brought up in the

833
01:13:54,730 --> 01:13:59,670
planning commission these aren't going to be transient units they're not going to be someone

834
01:13:59,670 --> 01:14:05,870
there for you know 30 days or 90 days these are for aging veterans where the hope is that they'll

835
01:14:05,870 --> 01:14:10,910
be there until either they pass away or have to move into a care facility but I think one

836
01:14:10,910 --> 01:14:14,710
of the conditions that we're open to from the planning commission would be that they're

837
01:14:14,710 --> 01:14:16,650
one-year leases for the units.

838
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:31,560
Is the, from what I understand is the, the home is it being donated by a different company?

839
01:14:32,060 --> 01:14:34,580
So that will be built on these.

840
01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:35,440
The homes?

841
01:14:36,260 --> 01:14:39,200
The five veteran units are module units.

842
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,580
They're from boxable corporation out of Las Vegas.

843
01:14:41,580 --> 01:14:59,960
So they're 400 square feet roughly and so they're not big, but they're enough for a veteran or a veteran couple to call home, and we're purchasing those, but we did receive and are in the process of receiving a substantial donation from Paulo and Galliano here.

844
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,840
Money, the founders of Boxable Corporation, and so that will help with offsetting those costs. But we will bring in other partners for road lay improvements and foundations and stuff like that with those as well. So. How long has your your nonprofit been. So we have been active as a 501 c3 nonprofit, I believe since 2024. I was in Minnesota for two years and I just got back in November of last year. So I'm catching up a while as we go.

845
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:35,920
long but since 2024 we opened our first unit with the box we ended up in

846
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:41,040
Nibbli and we have successfully helped 25 veterans over the lifetime of our

847
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,620
charity and that number is probably a little bit higher if we include their

848
01:15:44,620 --> 01:15:49,880
families as well but currently we operate four homes in northern Utah we work

849
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,180
with organizations and so-like like the other side village we're working with the

850
01:15:54,180 --> 01:15:59,200
iron county care and share their homeless center in Cedar City and so we've been

851
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:05,740
really active for the last two years but this has been a concept for maybe three or four years

852
01:16:06,330 --> 01:16:11,680
and it's just putting it all together with the governor's leadership bringing this together

853
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:19,600
to this point so. What would you say do you have a approximate number of how much of the money

854
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:28,220
goes to the veterans and what's the overhead of the nonprofit? So our goal is a charity and the

855
01:16:28,220 --> 01:16:35,320
working in right now. 99 to 95 to 95% of every dollar we raise or as

856
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,720
contribute goes directly to helping veterans. All of our staff, all of our

857
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:46,500
consultants work as volunteers and only receive compensation when the budget

858
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:52,900
shows itself. And so our chairman doesn't take a salary. None of our board of

859
01:16:52,900 --> 01:16:56,900
directors takes a salary. I don't take a salary. We're all doing this because we

860
01:16:56,900 --> 01:17:00,980
veterans have been willing to sacrifice. We know what they've been willing to do for this country.

861
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:09,840
And when they're in this point where it's, you know, between living in my car or different things,

862
01:17:10,180 --> 01:17:15,920
this is what we thought would be the least that we could do to show our thanks for what they were

863
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:21,240
willing to do for us. Thank you. Thank you. Good comments. Any other questions?

864
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:24,080
We're good. Thank you. Thank you.

865
01:17:26,780 --> 01:17:28,880
Any other discussion before we consider a motion?

866
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:47,110
I'll make a motion. We approve zone change Z-26-16 from R-1-6 to PUDR located at 525 North 100 East with the option of the shade structures per the applicant's position.

867
01:17:49,130 --> 01:17:56,830
Motion by Councilman Coates, second by Councilman Beliston. We'll do a roll call vote starting with Councilman Beliston.

868
01:17:57,450 --> 01:17:58,530
Aye. Councilman Henderson.

869
01:17:58,890 --> 01:18:00,170
Aye. Councilman Coates.

870
01:18:00,170 --> 01:18:03,070
I am an I, Councilwoman Casper-Sleek.

871
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:05,490
Thank you, the motion carries.

872
01:18:06,130 --> 01:18:07,270
I just want to make note too.

873
01:18:07,410 --> 01:18:14,610
Back in March, Mayor Staley went to Salt Lake, and he attended the event that the young

874
01:18:14,610 --> 01:18:15,170
man mentioned.

875
01:18:16,270 --> 01:18:22,630
Heather Cox was there, and Senator Walter heads up as a portable housing alliance group.

876
01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:27,630
And this was a first of sorts for the state of Utah.

877
01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:33,950
So maybe I'm bragging a little bit, maybe I'm just proud of my city, but I'm going to say that.

878
01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:36,010
This is what we try to do.

879
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:44,130
We, one of the first cities in the entire country, especially the state, to utilize SITLA land for affordable housing,

880
01:18:44,450 --> 01:18:50,550
thanks to good health, and now remnant parcels from UDOT for our veterans.

881
01:18:51,210 --> 01:18:57,650
So, that is a collaborative effort from our city, our mayor, our council, our staff members

882
01:18:58,010 --> 01:19:03,710
that understand that these sacrifices aren't just words deep, that we have to, we have

883
01:19:03,710 --> 01:19:07,330
to put our property where our hearts are sometimes.

884
01:19:08,590 --> 01:19:13,770
So we appreciate you being here tonight and we look forward to further collaboration as

885
01:19:13,770 --> 01:19:14,210
possible.

886
01:19:16,690 --> 01:19:16,990
Thank you.

887
01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:24,390
Okay. That concludes our regular agenda. Reports. Oh, sorry. We have a resolution,

888
01:19:27,770 --> 01:19:29,670
6A consideration

889
01:19:29,670 --> 01:19:35,750
to approve a resolution declaring intent to consider a municipal boundary line adjustment

890
01:19:36,250 --> 01:19:40,950
between Washington City and the City of St. George. And I'm sure that you all saw this and read

891
01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:46,650
it three times before your heart got back for it belonged as mine did. But this is a fairly

892
01:19:46,650 --> 01:19:55,010
straight forward annexation where we the the center line of the road was moved in this this small

893
01:19:55,010 --> 01:20:00,130
parcels from this developer that's only a small segment of ground ended up on the state

894
01:20:00,130 --> 01:20:05,910
George's side at the boundary change and so it's a very boilerplate change just to try to accommodate

895
01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:12,770
this owner with and getting his sliver property back in the city that will get ministering

896
01:20:12,770 --> 01:20:15,750
and it's undevelopable as a

897
01:20:18,220 --> 01:20:20,040
small little one, right?

898
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:21,820
No, I'm just kidding.

899
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:23,620
Mayor Procter, I'm ready for a motion.

900
01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:24,600
If you please, Councilman.

901
01:20:24,860 --> 01:20:25,400
I'll make a motion.

902
01:20:25,540 --> 01:20:27,520
We approve the resolution declaring the attempt

903
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,260
to consider municipal boundary line adjustment

904
01:20:29,260 --> 01:20:31,980
between Washington City and St. George City as outlined

905
01:20:31,980 --> 01:20:33,600
in our second now.

906
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,560
Motion by Councilman Coast, seconded by Councilman Beliston

907
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,820
with a roll call vote starting with Councilman Henderson.

908
01:20:39,260 --> 01:20:39,700
Aye.

909
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:40,280
votes?

910
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:41,500
I'm an aye.

911
01:20:41,780 --> 01:20:42,620
Councilman Casperson.

912
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:42,960
Aye.

913
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:51,440
Thank you. That motion carries as well. I'm a knight too. I'm sorry. Commissioner, Commissioner, I'm sorry.

914
01:20:52,480 --> 01:21:00,500
Councilmember, we'll just move on. Okay. I owe you a coke or something there, buddy. Okay, thank you. Thank you.

915
01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:05,720
Okay, report of officers from Assign Committees, Councilman Ben-Belston.

916
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:13,220
You celebrate a little bit, relax a little bit, or it's telling me, all right.

917
01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:15,480
That's been interesting.

918
01:21:16,060 --> 01:21:16,400
Thank you.

919
01:21:17,140 --> 01:21:24,460
So I had a tree shade, or a shade tree committee meeting this afternoon, and took me on a tour

920
01:21:24,460 --> 01:21:31,220
of their new tree farm up there, so they are, you know, rather than buying all of their

921
01:21:31,220 --> 01:21:35,740
trees at a nursery, they're going to try a tree farm to save a little bit of

922
01:21:35,740 --> 01:21:39,960
money and to try to get some better quality trees. So what they're doing is

923
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:45,140
they're purchasing, you know, $100 trees and then they're going to grow them

924
01:21:45,140 --> 01:21:52,160
into $1,000 trees, you know, in their little tree farm and hopefully have some

925
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:59,260
good large caliber trees to plant in the city, you know, parks and things like

926
01:21:59,260 --> 01:22:03,980
that. I was really impressed. They've got a whole system where they grow them in these

927
01:22:03,980 --> 01:22:09,000
bags, the root balls are contained in these bags, and there's a watering system. They're

928
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:13,140
working really hard at the parks department and doing a good job, so I appreciated that

929
01:22:13,140 --> 01:22:13,440
tour.

930
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,780
Thank you, Councilman Anderson, Councilman Coates. Nothing, no committee since the last meeting,

931
01:22:19,980 --> 01:22:24,960
so thank you. And I have some things, but I'll hold off and tell our next meeting when we have

932
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,460
a follow-up meeting at the MPO.

933
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,720
Councilwoman Kasperson, give anything to share.

934
01:22:29,060 --> 01:22:30,720
Nothing to share there.

935
01:22:32,300 --> 01:22:36,290
Okay, city manager report to Mr. Red.

936
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:37,830
Thank you, just a few quick items.

937
01:22:38,390 --> 01:22:40,970
I went to the quarterly water district meeting today.

938
01:22:41,410 --> 01:22:42,530
It was good information.

939
01:22:42,690 --> 01:22:45,430
We still have strong water in our reservoirs.

940
01:22:45,490 --> 01:22:47,150
They're still quite full, which is really good

941
01:22:47,150 --> 01:22:51,010
after two years of poor winters, but it's gonna start looking

942
01:22:51,010 --> 01:22:53,390
a little rough if we don't get a nice winter this year.

943
01:22:54,150 --> 01:22:55,690
The water district did update.

944
01:22:55,690 --> 01:23:00,270
everybody on the the new plan for the Colorado River and for sharing water

945
01:23:00,270 --> 01:23:03,490
basically the lower base of states had to take a haircut so they immediately

946
01:23:03,490 --> 01:23:08,270
filed suit so all the attorneys will make a ton of money while they figure this

947
01:23:08,270 --> 01:23:13,470
all out it doesn't make any more water but but they'll make a lot of money. Public

948
01:23:13,470 --> 01:23:17,610
works is currently making an emergency repair on 1100 east off of Washington

949
01:23:17,610 --> 01:23:22,610
Dam Road there was a sinkhole that the developed in the road there was a farmer

950
01:23:22,610 --> 01:23:28,430
built storm drain that takes water from the old farms out to the river that developed problems

951
01:23:28,430 --> 01:23:33,190
and created a sinkhole. So after some settling, they're working on that project right now, but

952
01:23:33,190 --> 01:23:39,870
it's an emergency fix. The Brio Parkway and Boinevista traffic signals also underway, where the

953
01:23:39,870 --> 01:23:45,950
wing co is under construction. We're seeing long lead times on the steel for those traffic signals,

954
01:23:45,950 --> 01:23:49,490
so they're going to order that ahead of time. But we hope to have that in next spring.

955
01:23:49,490 --> 01:23:54,010
Do we have any traffic signals planned down by LA and Sticky Phones area?

956
01:23:55,010 --> 01:24:01,130
I'd not in this year's budget now, but there are just had some residents reach out and I told them that we would have to

957
01:24:01,590 --> 01:24:04,510
Evaluate it, but I don't think I didn't know of any in the short term.

958
01:24:04,770 --> 01:24:11,750
I saw the same email and the difficulty there is it really it really won't bet warrants right now down there

959
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:16,850
It's and that's what I told them when they letched out to me, so but we have we have

960
01:24:16,850 --> 01:24:18,510
Where are they asking for that?

961
01:24:18,690 --> 01:24:19,770
Down in LA.

962
01:24:20,430 --> 01:24:22,270
They were asking for the Sticky Farms Parkway

963
01:24:22,270 --> 01:24:24,710
and Washington Fields Road, which is kind of the end

964
01:24:24,710 --> 01:24:27,170
of that project, and as it builds out,

965
01:24:27,410 --> 01:24:29,630
certainly someday the warrants will be there,

966
01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:33,310
but right now, they're more worried about speed and noise,

967
01:24:33,630 --> 01:24:35,990
and that's just not what warrants traffic signals.

968
01:24:36,290 --> 01:24:37,590
So it's got to be cross-traffic.

969
01:24:40,690 --> 01:24:43,790
We also, this is an interesting thing to point out,

970
01:24:43,970 --> 01:24:45,470
and we have Battalion Chief Moore here,

971
01:24:45,470 --> 01:24:54,090
but we had great response, the fire department opened a recruitment for some positions and we had 65 certified applicants.

972
01:24:54,850 --> 01:25:00,110
They narrowed it down to eight very strong candidates, including four who already work for us part-time.

973
01:25:00,810 --> 01:25:09,110
The biggest difference is they opened up some new fire academies locally and in Cedar City and they're producing really good qualified applicants.

974
01:25:09,370 --> 01:25:11,110
So that's a real positive for the area.

975
01:25:12,450 --> 01:25:18,830
We have one open position right now and we have two more that will fill at the end of the year.

976
01:25:21,170 --> 01:25:26,670
The IT Department also completed an upgrade of our city's firewall last week and very minimal issues.

977
01:25:26,910 --> 01:25:29,730
They did it on a Friday afternoon and did a great job there.

978
01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:37,970
The upgrade gives us better visibility into our network and it's another strengthening for our cybersecurity for our city.

979
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:39,090
That's all I have.

980
01:25:39,090 --> 01:25:40,490
Mayor Protein.

981
01:25:40,710 --> 01:25:41,130
Thank you.

982
01:25:41,330 --> 01:25:42,550
Council, you get the last word.

983
01:25:42,810 --> 01:25:43,110
Anything?

984
01:25:43,590 --> 01:25:44,410
I make a motion.

985
01:25:44,510 --> 01:25:45,190
We close the meeting.

986
01:25:46,130 --> 01:25:47,030
There's a motion.

987
01:25:47,290 --> 01:25:47,550
Thank you.

988
01:25:47,770 --> 01:25:48,170
Second.

989
01:25:48,730 --> 01:25:49,110
Third.

990
01:25:49,530 --> 01:25:50,150
Never would I.

991
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:51,150
I.

992
01:25:51,150 --> 01:25:51,410
I.

993
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:52,790
Thank you so much.

994
01:25:53,730 --> 01:25:54,030
Thanks.