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[0:00] Welcome to the Washington City Council meeting, or regular council meeting, for August 26, 2026. Public notice is hereby given that the Washington City Council will hold a public electronic regular meeting on Wednesday, August 26, 2026 at 6 p.m., hosted at Washington City Hall, located 11 North, 100 East, and Washington, Utah. The meeting will be broadcast by YouTube, and it will also be linked online.
[0:26] that's on our website at WashingtonCity.org slash meetings if you'd like to review that after the meeting.
[0:36] Make mention that there, the agenda changed from its original postings.
[0:42] We found something that was more efficient to move it, that nothing was added.
[0:46] We're taking away, it's just a different post and we did post it within the time limit after that correction was made.
[0:52] I would like to excuse, where we would like to excuse Mayor Staley tonight.
[0:57] He's spending some time with his new grandson and his son and daughter-in-law, down in Arizona,
[1:03] for some much needed R&R for him, so we hope he's having a good time down there.
[1:09] Tonight we're delighted to have with us tonight for the invocation Rev.
[1:14] I've run, last, last, is that right?
[1:19] They said right, I'll give you the last, yes, that's not you.
[1:25] Oh, well, I got some old notes here.
[1:28] Would you introduce yourself when you go up
[1:30] to give us the invocation?
[1:31] Thank you so much.
[1:32] Come on up.
[1:37] Good evening, I'm Father Robert Wilman, the director
[1:41] of Grace Episcopal Church in Cedar City.
[1:44] It's a pleasure to be here tonight.
[2:06] God bless us all. God bless Washington City. God bless America. Amen.
[2:16] Thank you so much for being here.
[2:18] and sharing that wonderful prayer.
[2:21] We'll now have a pledge of allegiance that will be led by our Black funds back, our public works director.
[2:34] Please repeat after me.
[2:35] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.
[2:43] One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
[2:49] I mentioned
[2:59] that we have no need for a closed session.
[3:04] Council, if you would like to approve the gentle as outlined or make a part time, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda as outlined.
[3:14] Thank you, Councilman Code, second.
[3:16] Second by Councilman Henderson, real call, Councilman Beliston.
[3:21] second. Second by Bellistan. Second by Bellistan's and then all in favor.
[3:27] Bellistan. I, Henderson. I, Caspon. And I, I, I, as well.
[3:36] The way of announcements, we have the wonderful celebration of Labor Day coming up on September 7th.
[3:44] I don't know that we have many grand celebrations around here, but they sure have a nice one in Lincoln County.
[3:51] Nevada. If you want to travel a little bit, they have a really nice celebration over there
[3:56] for Labor Day.
[4:01] Council, anything to declare tonight, declaration of abstention and conflicts
[4:05] on any of our current agenda items. Mayor Pro Tem, item 5A and B, I have a conflict and
[4:11] I'll be stepping down from the podium. Thank you, Councilman Coates. So noted. Next item
[4:17] one is the consent agenda that consists of approval of minutes, consideration to approve
[4:23] the minutes from the City Council meeting of August 12th, 2026.
[4:29] Mayor Putem, I'll mean the motion that we approve the consent agenda as outlined.
[4:34] Motion by Councillor Beliston. Second. Second by Councillor Henderson.
[4:38] All in favour? Hi. Thank you so much. The agenda is approved.
[4:43] tonight we have four ordinances.
[4:49] We're going to run 5A and 5B together. I'm going to read
[4:54] each of them separately. We will discuss them together and then we will vote on them separately.
[5:01] The difference is 5A is for a general plan amendment, 5B is for a zone change. So on 5A,
[5:08] a consideration to approve an ordinance for general plan amendment, G-26-03, from open
[5:15] space to low density. This is located at 1608 North, 590 West. The applicant is Jeff
[5:22] Mathis, and Elmgib will be presenting on that, and then on ordinance 5B. This one, as I
[5:31] said, will run with 5A. This is consideration to approve an ordinance for zone change,
[5:37] Z-26-17 from open space OS to R1-10, located 1608 North, 590 West in that cap.
[5:48] Applicant again is Jeff Mathes, our Community Development Director, Eldengib, has this presentation.
[5:56] Thank you Mayor, Bro Tem, Council good to be here.
[6:00] You can see this highlighted piece of property there.
[6:04] It's 0.83 acres and when the land adjacent to this proposal was developed, approximately 2005, 2006,
[6:13] it was not included in that original development since this time the land is sold off and the applicant is pursuing a general plan and
[6:24] zone change application or amendment.
[6:28] The applicant is proposing to change the general plan land use map from open space to low density for the purpose of developing the site into a single family residential lot.
[6:38] The applicant has noted in the application that they intend to build a single family home, which would be a single story with the walk out basement.
[6:48] This property is in the Hillside overlay, and on April 20th, 2026, the Hillside Review Board reviewed development plans and recommended approval.
[7:00] Noting the land be graded for a walkout basement, along with all proposed retaining walls be constructed with natural material that blends in and matches the surrounding land.
[7:12] With this item concerning itself with the general plan, it should be known that the zoning designation also needs to be changed, which Mayor Brotem called out.
[7:24] And that zone changes to go from open space to R110 as well for the point A3.
[7:34] On August 5th, 2026, the Planning Commission reviewed both the general plan and zone change request and recommended approval.
[7:42] Noting the home should consist of a single story with walkout basement and the storm drain inlet on the property be reviewed by public works as outlined above and shown in the exhibits that conclude staff report.
[7:59] I'm happy to answer any questions you may have at this time.
[8:02] Council, any questions for Eldon?
[8:08] I don't have any right now.
[8:10] That's
[8:21] when they came through where the zone change and general plan were done the same night same thing
[8:25] I just for a consistency sake if we I'd like them
[8:29] You know if we do it here. We got to have a good reason
[8:33] We deny it to other people
[8:37] Because it'd be great on all applications to come in and do two at once, but a lot of a way separate them out, right?
[8:43] So other than that, I don't have any questions. Thank you.
[8:51] We'd invite the the applicant up
[8:53] Yeah,
[9:01] it's Jeff Matheson, our new design associates really well
[9:04] We were brought into this to look at us to see the feasibility of building a house on this lot
[9:10] Well, we've had the contours and the survey done everything look great with the lockout basement
[9:16] Obviously, we have to tuck it up close to the full sack
[9:19] But the way the grades work out and try to not build key huge of a home
[9:24] But I think what would be acceptable for this community actually fits on the site
[9:30] So, as far as we're concerned, it's a very feasible site and the questions and comments that we had from the Planning Commission, and there's quite a bit of public comment during that Planning Commission.
[9:42] We're able to address those, and I think we have a good solution for this.
[9:48] So, quick question. It's .83 acre. Are you guys looking at grading the whole site? No.
[9:57] Third of it or a lot. I mean, it's pretty good size.
[10:00] Yeah, what it would look like, I mean as far as it would probably be like a 50, so really at the top of the cold
[10:06] The sack on the north side, you could have a three car garage, the third car, bigger garage could be right up tucked up
[10:13] Against that side, obviously the setbacks would be applicable at that point. And then a two car garage and then the rest of the house can kind of tuck in.
[10:22] We did have survey on the Stormbrain Line planning commission brought up and we can fit it.
[10:28] you know we're talking 25 or 2800 square foot footprint so that'd be a main
[10:34] floor in a basement right so it's not but it wouldn't I mean I would say
[10:39] Troy we'd probably be like maybe 50 feet at the the the widest part of that
[10:44] coldest sack pushing to the east and I actually drove by the site again on my way
[10:50] here tonight just to double check what we're looking at and with the lockout
[10:54] basement it wouldn't be, there would be some retaining walls that have to come around there if they do the stacked rock walls that match the landscape, but it wouldn't push, it wouldn't, I mean, yeah.
[11:06] The whole idea at this point is just to keep it as tight as we can to the cold the sack and not try to bleed clear out to the edge of the property.
[11:21] change held in as just for the
[11:30] just to make note that I was actually involved in that hillside review as well and
[11:35] They're the only grade that is 30% a grader was man-made for that roadway. Yeah, right on the edge there
[11:42] It's got the rock lined edges around the cul-de-sac yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're good with a walk out
[11:49] Yeah, it's really I mean it makes the most sense and the owners I think that we're all on board with that
[11:54] I think that's what makes the most sense, too, for the neighbourhood and the neighbourhoods as well, so we'll share you seeing that and recognizing it, so.
[12:04] Thank you. Anything additional council would you like to hear from Mr. Mathis?
[12:09] Thank you very much.
[12:11] So the public hearing for this item was held at Pining Commission, and there were comments taken there.
[12:19] There's also been public comments that have been distributed to Council is very good at reading
[12:24] those and being aware of them and making notes on those things.
[12:29] If there was someone here tonight that would allow one, maybe two people that come up,
[12:34] they didn't have a chance at that hearing it come to my attention that there were some that
[12:38] maybe wanted to make a comment here tonight.
[12:40] We were limited to one or two.
[12:42] Is there anyone here that would like comment to this item?
[12:45] All right.
[12:46] Thank you.
[12:46] So, Council, I would refer this back to you for a motion or whatever you please.
[12:54] Any separate motions or yeah, we're going to do 5a would be considered first the general
[13:00] plan of amendment and after that, this is going to change.
[13:02] Mayor Patten.
[13:03] Oh, I'm sorry, God.
[13:04] Just on the constitution here, Mayor's gone, so we are chairman of the meeting is not here.
[13:11] Councilor Nivey's, the Acting Mayor, Pro Tem.
[13:13] If we met at tonight, he's able to vote as a council member, make motions as a council.
[13:21] And that he's performing the pro-
[13:29] That's like a mayor with benefits.
[13:31] Exactly.
[13:32] Yeah, that's what most mayors want.
[13:33] It's an unlucky man.
[13:34] Council member, I'm not sure which.
[13:36] We do have a coron.
[13:37] We have more than three, so we don't have to have, we do have the potential of a tight vote
[13:42] here, but we don't have to have, you know, everybody vote the same.
[13:46] We've got enough that there can be a variance in your viewpoints that what would happen in the case of a tie
[13:52] Just so the audience knows a tie without a tie-breaker is a failure to pass
[13:58] That's
[14:01] what in Bellstone you're ready for emotion. I'll make a motion that we've proven ordinance for general plan amendment
[14:05] G-dash 26-03
[14:08] From open space to low-density located at
[14:11] 1608 north 590 west. Thank you. There's a motion to have a second. I'd like to make a second
[14:18] but can I have a minute to explain so this is a little bit of a hard vote for me
[14:24] sometimes when you're on the city council and something's close to your
[14:28] neighborhood it really is hard and it hits home and so the people on this
[14:34] coldest sack are very good friends of mine I just live right close by and so I
[14:40] know it's tough it's tough when there's changes that happen in your in your
[14:45] neighborhood. I really hate to see those beautiful red rocks get covered up, but I want to talk to you a little bit about my perspective on it.
[14:54] just so people, you know, in the neighborhood know why.
[15:00] I'm voting the way I am.
[15:04] So, I've lived up in that neighborhood for 47 years. In fact, as far as I know, myself and my parents have lived north of the freeway longer than anybody that currently lives up there. We moved there 47 years ago. When we moved up there, the few roads that were out there were all dirt roads. And so there was no pavement up there. And so, you know,
[15:32] 45 years ago, all of the Red Rocks north of my parents' house, all of that beautiful red desert up there was our playground, and we played up there, we hiked up there, we along the Mill Creek Gully there, we had access, we could go access the Gully any time we wanted to, it was beautiful.
[15:57] We used to hike up to all of the springs that were up there that have since been covered
[16:03] up by development.
[16:06] And so, you know, for the last 47 years, every single subdivision, every single house that
[16:13] has gone in there has taken a little chunk of our beautiful red rocks away, right?
[16:20] But those property owners, and during that whole time, there's been many
[16:27] zone changes, many general plan changes. You know, that's just kind of what
[16:31] happens. But every one of those property owners up there had a right to
[16:37] develop the property that was theirs. And when they purchased the property, whether
[16:43] it was from the state or whoever, they then gained those rights to develop the
[16:48] the property if it was in reason if it made sense.
[16:52] And so as much as I hate to see those red rocks get covered up and as I can feel the pain
[17:00] of the neighbors, you know, there's that open space there that's going to disappear.
[17:06] I understand because I've been seeing that happen for 47 years but I also understand that
[17:11] when somebody buys a piece of property, they then inherit the property rights to develop
[17:18] that and to build a house on it.
[17:21] And so this property owner has every bit as much right to build a house on that property as every other property owner that's built up there for the last 47 years.
[17:35] So it's a hard vote for me, my good friends, my neighbors to say yes to this house, but I kind of feel like to be consistent with what's happened up there for the last 47 years.
[17:48] We can't let thousands of people build houses up there and then say no to this guy that just bought a piece of property up there
[17:57] So I feel your pain about the
[18:00] Pain that goes along with development because none of us like change
[18:05] But this person has the right to develop just like we all did
[18:09] I mean the house that I live on was once open space the house that my parents live in this
[18:15] 48 years old was one's open space and so our perspective kind of starts when we move
[18:22] here right so my perspective started 47 years ago some people their perspective starts
[18:29] last year when they moved here but as a city council we kind of have to look at the whole
[18:35] spectrum we have to look at all of it and we have to look at people's rights we have to balance
[18:40] the needs of the city against the needs of the immediate neighbors and stuff like that.
[18:46] So anyway, that's why I'm going to second that, my Maricopo champs.
[18:50] Thank you for your comments.
[18:51] I would venture to say that well said, but I would venture to say you got a lot of good
[18:55] friends out of it too.
[18:57] Absolutely.
[18:59] I wouldn't trade it for anything, so some of the people that have moved in out there north
[19:03] of the freeway are the best people in the world, so we have welcomed all of them with open
[19:08] arms.
[19:09] So thank you.
[19:10] Thank you, Councilman Henderson, for your comments, appreciate those.
[19:13] We have a motion from Councilman Belliston, a second by Councilman Henderson, and we're
[19:18] going to do a roll call vote starting with Councilman Henderson.
[19:22] Aye.
[19:23] Aye
[19:27] as well.
[19:28] Councilman Casperson.
[19:29] Aye.
[19:30] And Councilman Belliston.
[19:31] Aye.
[19:32] Motion passes unanimously.
[19:34] Thank you.
[19:36] Now we're, Council, if you'd like to make motion on, on be for these own change at this
[19:42] time or if you need further discussion or I'll make the motion to an
[19:47] improvement ordinance for zone change Z-26-17 from open space to R1 10
[19:54] located at 1608 north 590 west and I just want to quickly say to I we
[20:00] built our house we were the one of the few homes left on our street and we build
[20:05] our house and and it looked like it had been once used as a bicycle track for kids
[20:09] And then across our street we have an open lot that has we have a really great view
[20:16] But we know that one day our we're gonna have neighbors across the street and
[20:22] You it's better sweet because you look forward to having those new neighbors
[20:25] But you also there's parts of it that you
[20:29] Will miss too, but I agree with what you shared about property rights and
[20:35] The entitlements that individuals have to build their homes
[20:38] So thank you for sharing those.
[20:40] Thank you, Councilman Casperson, for your comments.
[20:42] If you have a motion by Councilman Casperson, second?
[20:45] Second.
[20:46] Second by Councilman Henderson.
[20:49] We're going to a roll call vote starting with me and I am an I,
[20:53] Casperson.
[20:54] Aye.
[20:55] Beliston and Henderson.
[20:58] That motion carries unanimously.
[21:02] It brings us to our next ordinance.
[21:06] and welcome Councilman Coates back to the dice 5c,
[21:14] which is a continuation of consideration
[21:18] to approve an ordinance for zone change Z-26-14 from C1 and R110 to C2.
[21:28] It's located at Antigua Lane and George Washington Boulevard.
[21:37] Council, any comments or anything you wanted to discuss before we start this process?
[21:41] I know it's been in a couple of weeks or anything we want to clarify or discuss before
[21:44] we begin the process.
[21:45] I just wonder if Elton will pull up the new applicant or the proposed changes they submitted
[21:50] to the council so the public can see them.
[21:53] Would you?
[21:54] There they are.
[21:55] Okay.
[21:56] So we will start with our community development director Elton Gibble will present on this
[22:02] item and then we will give the applicant a chance to speak to it as well.
[22:06] Thank you.
[22:08] Council, you can see here this is the property concerning itself. This item was tabled during
[22:12] the August 12th, if the applicant time to discuss on their side and take any consideration
[22:20] those comments. They have come back with an amended site plan. We'll pull up here. You
[22:26] can see the front half, 6.07 acres. When I say the front half, that's the piece adjacent to
[22:33] George Washington Boulevard, asking to keep that C2 and then the back portion.
[22:42] The map shows 3.07 acres of C1.
[22:46] This is the amended site plan from two weeks ago.
[22:50] So Eldon, can you read off the differences between C1 and C2 just for the record so we
[22:54] can see, so the public can see what the differences are?
[22:58] If I have a condensed list of differences, there's five different uses.
[23:05] I'm going to the C1 to the C2 and it starts with, once you jump into the C2, you're then
[23:13] allowed to do retail and or wholesale and or rental of goods, merchandise and equipment,
[23:20] which may include storage and display outside and enclosed building, then list some examples
[23:26] of those types. It also includes hospitals, hotel or motel, motor vehicle, trailer camper
[23:34] and recreational vehicle, sales agencies, and lastly, state approved and operated liquor
[23:40] stores.
[23:41] Those
[23:52] uses still would have to have, for both parcels would have to have conditional
[23:57] use permits, correct, because they're adjacent to George Washington Boulevard.
[24:00] Great comment, yes, regardless of the use it would be a conditional use permit on this
[24:05] property.
[24:05] would you consider the entire site, subject to the CUP or only the stuff along George Washington
[24:15] Boulevard?
[24:17] Because when you say adjacent to the entire parcels adjacent, I would consider it all adjacent
[24:24] to.
[24:25] I would, maybe, I mean, I, you know, first off this looks to me a lot better than what came
[24:33] last time this address is a lot of my concerns to have the C1 up there, you know, closer to the
[24:41] residential. But I would like to, I mean, somebody could make the argument. I would like to,
[24:47] if we go ahead and pass this, I would like to put in there the conditional use permit would
[24:55] pertain to this whole property because I think in the future somebody could make the argument that,
[25:00] But, well, there are two different zones, and, you know, you could maybe make the argument
[25:05] that only the C2 is adjacent to, you know, so I would like to maybe just specify that
[25:12] in a motion.
[25:14] So, I think you could do that as a condition to the approval, and I don't think the applicant
[25:19] would have a problem with that.
[25:22] Ellen, can you scroll in the next exit?
[25:24] Exactly, because you got this one, and the next one right there on the west of that shows
[25:29] it was a cold attack. Now they're not, and they're showing that on their, and it's been proposed,
[25:35] right? It's not going to be part of the, it's not part of this application. Correct. Yeah.
[25:40] That's just a possibility about it. Right.
[25:53] We have someone join online for a second,
[25:55] I should have mute them. Sorry about that.
[25:59] What do you mind showing the zoning map and what
[26:02] their entitlements are currently? And then that, what do you mind talking about
[26:07] on that this point in zoning, what they already have approved, what they could do now,
[26:11] because there were some comments that were made via email that they were told that there
[26:18] was going to only be residential properties behind them and so I don't know if you wouldn't
[26:22] mind if you wouldn't mind talking a little bit about you know what they could do with
[26:26] this site right now what legally they have the right to do right now.
[26:32] Sure one thing we hear over the years in city government is folks that have been told
[26:37] something about their property. Usually it comes from the real estate industry about views or open
[26:43] space or or fields and I am not saying that they were lies when they were told but there is there
[26:51] is a a trend of statements being made at the time of sales of properties that don't necessarily
[26:59] have any authority to to require those things going forward and so zoning is a good example.
[27:04] A city council could come in 1995 and zone these lots something and while it is true
[27:10] that in 1995 those lots have whatever rights that zoning allowed at that time, a city council
[27:16] could come back 10 years later and change those zone designations and the uses that are
[27:22] allowed would change with that.
[27:24] And so just like the development world reviews can change if somebody buys the empty lot that
[27:30] your view crosses or open space can change if the state agency that owns lands for the
[27:36] schools decides to sell those lands to make money for the schools zoning can change
[27:42] as well. So today where it stands the zoning is R110 which is a residential zone that allows
[27:48] residential uses the 10 indicates a number that relates to the amount of density that's
[27:54] in there, and there's a number of ways you can accomplish that.
[27:57] Most commonly in R110, it's just a single standalone home on a lot.
[28:03] C1 is a commercial zone. You can do lesser uses in the commercial zone,
[28:10] but C1 and the label of the one is essentially a limit on the uses
[28:14] to the C1 category and nothing that's of a bigger nature
[28:18] or a more robust nature like an industrial use.
[28:23] It is Washington City's practice to allow C-1 type zoning along major collector roadways like George Washington Boulevard and so
[28:32] that C-1 would not be considered to be out of place as it relates to other major collector roads that the city's cities.
[28:41] You know, identify it on its transportation plans and then brought into existence.
[28:45] Does that answer the question you had for me?
[28:48] Well, that C-1, C-2, C-3, I mean, we got C-3 on the south side of that road, right?
[28:53] So it's going to be a long way to that road.
[28:58] I think I appreciate that the developers kept, you know, the single family to the north,
[29:05] single family to the west, the other owner of the property to the west is committed to
[29:09] keep that residential and in a cul-de-sac or something that doesn't tie back through.
[29:15] So the traffic's going to be forced into that intersection or out on to George Washington Boulevard.
[29:24] I think it's important to note though that George Washington Boulevard to contract with St.
[29:30] George City let out the contract to go from River Road to the new bridge it's being built right there
[29:38] by the Dixie Center. So by March of next year Dixie Drive is going to connect all the way through to SR7,
[29:45] right so just we need to be prepared that we probably need to look you'll
[29:51] revisit the area as far as signaling and whatnot you know down the road and
[29:56] have a plan for that in the upcoming future but
[30:00] I think the vast majority of the traffic is going to come from George Washington and not. Certainly, the developer and adjacent property owners, that they're going to limit that commercial traffic through the existing neighborhoods. And
[30:21] that's going to be a major east-west route from my 15 to SR7. And it's much anticipated with the county, with the DTAC. Well, and to that end, I think, John, it was
[30:35] Was it the 2002 master plan or 2005, 2002 was the first time it came across to here and then commercial was 2007 when this area started, I guess, getting identified as commercial for that area.
[30:54] So it's been in the works for quite some time.
[30:57] Can I ask a question?
[30:58] Absolutely.
[31:01] In some of the, you know, we read all of the emails that come.
[31:05] We really do.
[31:05] And we appreciate the input from the neighbors on all of the issues that we look at over the years.
[31:13] And a lot of people talk about traffic and a lot of the comments are, you know, these roads weren't made for traffic.
[31:21] I'm wondering, Councilman Ivy, if we could have John maybe just come up and tell us a little bit about this particular road, how wide it is and was it built for, you know, heavy traffic or tell us a little bit about that, John?
[31:38] Absolutely, Councilman Henderson, John.
[31:40] My understanding is out of all of the roads that we have, this is the second largest type of road that we can have in our city, is that correct?
[31:49] John, you know when you have to add you up here if you're in the audience, you have to come up, so look excited about it when you come up here.
[31:56] Always, always happy to come up here.
[31:58] Yeah, you're correct. George Washington is a major arterial. It's our second highest classification.
[32:05] You can see we're long, long valley roads coming in. That's our highest as a major arterial.
[32:12] So, with the minor arterial, that's an 85 foot right away, basically we were able to put it's definitely meant to handle the amount of traffic.
[32:23] That is traversing this.
[32:34] So, this was planned years ago to be a road that has a lot of traffic on.
[32:40] I was able to track it back to the...
[32:59] It's a major collection of the North South of Blue Dash.
[33:03] Yeah, the Blue Dash.
[33:03] Yeah, sorry. I didn't have my microphone on. I just
[33:07] It's a 66 but right away.
[33:08] 66 major collector. Okay, and
[33:12] And that's there is that a three-lane then be three-lane. Okay, we require the the west road be similar to three-lane
[33:23] And it was been went in as a just as a standard presidential to the north
[33:28] But wouldn't be with it being commercial would we require?
[33:31] We would why look at it now as
[33:35] a commercial local. Yes.
[33:36] Has been transitioned down to a neighborhood road
[33:38] when you get to.
[33:39] Correct.
[33:42] You said to the west, which one are you referring
[33:44] to Antigua?
[33:45] I'm talking the west, I don't know,
[33:47] the west side of the property with the blue dad.
[33:49] You just wonder what's the opposite.
[33:51] Well, those property owners are proposing cold as sack.
[33:53] So you wouldn't have no.
[33:54] I'm not talking that.
[33:55] I'm talking the road that goes north and south
[33:57] that it's on the west side of the proposed property.
[34:01] Because right now there's not a master plan road on it,
[34:04] but with it being commercialized,
[34:05] wondering what size it was required to be.
[34:06] No, because I would assume it because it's commercial, it's just a touch bigger than a residential neighborhood.
[34:11] So the 50 foot right away, you'd bump up to a 60, probably instead of a 66, which is on the east side of the property.
[34:18] Yeah, the east side's 66, and then Antigua right there's 50 foot.
[34:22] Well, I'm saying, but because they're proposing commercial, I am asking, doesn't increase.
[34:27] And John said he would look at it.
[34:31] With the zone change, and what would be there, it would likely be a reclassification
[34:36] to a commercial local.
[34:40] Okay.
[34:42] Thank you.
[34:42] Anything else for Mr. Hunky?
[34:49] Thank you.
[34:50] We may call you again, so I'll get to comfortable there.
[34:52] Okay.
[34:58] That concludes staff report.
[35:00] I'm happy to answer any other questions that you have any.
[35:03] Council, any questions for, for Eldon on this application change from last, yeah, Eldon,
[35:11] with the C2, it's allowed vehicle sales and slash repair is correct with the C2, like
[35:18] you mentioned, so, but is there a conditional use that's required to go along with that?
[35:23] I mean, I know we'll do the C2, but like, it is a permitted use.
[35:35] I just want to make sure that any kind is conditional use on anything over 5,000 square feet
[35:43] too.
[35:43] And I guess the other covered both directions.
[35:46] I understand that.
[35:47] Sorry.
[35:47] I kind of confused my question to you.
[35:49] My question was vehicle sales are permitted and you did state that and then I guess my question
[35:56] was, I don't think in our city we have designated areas that only vehicle cells can be in.
[36:01] Like we have the auto mall up by 13x at 13, but we don't have any, but we can put them
[36:08] other place.
[36:10] I know St. George has permitted places they allow that, so that's why I asked the question.
[36:16] So we did, if you remember, just a few weeks ago or months ago, on the property just
[36:24] south of Staley Farm. We carved out some uses. We said there are some uses that we don't want to see there, right?
[36:33] And so, I'm just going to run out it. Are there some uses in C2 that we don't absolutely want to see there?
[36:39] Like, for instance, an equipment rental place, you know, the ones that have their lifts up in the air and they're all up in the air.
[36:47] I mean, is that that's when we should do a PUD C to limit those?
[36:52] That's when you would do that, not on straight zoning.
[36:54] Or do a permitted list, like exactly what you said,
[36:58] like what we did adjacent to Staley Farm.
[37:00] So it's screaming as a PUD though.
[37:02] Yeah, that's the difference between this project and that project.
[37:05] It came in as a PUD and they didn't have their full plan yet.
[37:09] And so they asked for a list of uses.
[37:11] But it would be highly unlikely,
[37:15] it's not something that we do,
[37:17] that we would straight zone something but then do we do anything like that?
[37:20] The straight zoning gives the list of uses, that's so to Councilman Coates point,
[37:26] if we didn't want to see vehicle sales any more in certain areas,
[37:31] we'd want to go change the zoning, not pick one particular zone.
[37:35] Wasn't allowed in?
[37:39] The challenge for a development, I mean, they're trailblazing,
[37:45] and so anytime you trailblazing a PED is just incredibly problematic
[37:49] and painful to try to work through, because you don't have your use, right?
[37:54] At least on the other parcel where they did come in as a PED, they have a pretty dang good idea of how that is going to lay out and work out.
[38:02] So, they were able to bring it as a PED, pick their uses and it made sense.
[38:06] This one's going to be, I'm not in favor of a PED in this case.
[38:10] I know you don't like PEDs.
[38:12] Well, I mean, hey, look, quite frankly, if I own that property, I wouldn't want the city council in my back pocket as I'm trying to make financial decisions for the project.
[38:20] I understand that. I just, I'm a fan of PUDs because it's a blank canvas, and granted I haven't done a lot of deals, so I'm not as stupid as you are with those commercial deals, and I just feel like a PUD is a better application when there is so much concern from the decision.
[38:37] You know what you were doing?
[38:38] It's a great tool to have.
[38:41] And I look at it as a plan.
[38:42] I listen, you can put anything you want.
[38:44] You just got to get negotiated zoning.
[38:46] But that's all I say.
[38:47] I talked about it last meeting.
[38:48] I'm more of a fan of PUDs than straight zoning
[38:51] and to be consistent with what we've done
[38:53] everywhere else along that road.
[38:56] I ask somebody who has a parcel of ground
[39:00] who's been working it for almost a decade.
[39:03] Not here, though.
[39:04] Not here, not here.
[39:05] definitely. And has had to site plan and re plan and and talk to many many different people
[39:14] over the years and bang my head against that brick wall. It's just it makes it really tough
[39:19] to not have zoning that allows to be able for the developer to be able to come in and make that
[39:24] and negotiate. Now if they if they had the zoning and they want to come in and do some modified
[39:30] but it modifies only once they have a tenant
[39:32] because a PUD makes sense to create,
[39:34] but not on something like this, it just does not.
[39:37] It does not work.
[39:38] It makes, it's a,
[39:40] you sever your Achilles heel in that type of a deal.
[39:45] So, I appreciate,
[39:47] I guess the other thing to add though,
[39:49] I appreciate they did.
[39:50] We granted them the general plan,
[39:53] which would allow C1,
[39:55] get them the commercial uses,
[39:58] and they've kept that C1 buffer
[40:00] to the C2. So no existing homeowner is going to be directly adjacent to either the C1 or the C2, right?
[40:08] So there's
[40:12] a little give and take across the board with everybody I think.
[40:17] Thank you for your comments, a good discussion. One thing that might be helpful,
[40:20] and would you share with those that may not know all the acronyms that we use?
[40:25] Would you explain a conditional use permit how that applies to the zoning process just so everyone is aware of them?
[40:30] You bet, so conditional use permit, it's a way to take different zonings.
[40:38] For example, here we've got a commercial here that is relatively close to residential.
[40:46] So conditional use permits allow a few more eyes on the project to help rule out and
[40:57] minimize that buffer between those incompatibility of uses residential and commercial such as light mitigation, landscaping depth, height,
[41:15] roadways, anything that could help transition and buffer between those two uses is what a conditional use permit looks at.
[41:25] So it's an additional tool to be used to help make it a compatible use, going forward.
[41:31] Correct.
[41:32] And to minimize the difference
[41:39] in uses.
[41:40] Thank you.
[41:41] Any other questions for Elton before we bring up the applicant?
[41:46] Just to clarify before that, what we're seeing tonight, are we, we will be voting later on
[41:54] this meeting on this application that you identified tonight, that the 6.07 of C2 on the
[42:01] road, George Washington Roadway, the 5.26 C1 to the north. Is that what we're voting on
[42:07] tonight just to be very clear? Correct, that's the updated site plan that
[42:12] the applicant is asking for, either approval or denial.
[42:15] Approval already denial, thank you very much. Okay, council, anything else before we bring
[42:19] the applicant. The light clarified applicant
[42:25] representative please come on up council
[42:31] members. I appreciate
[42:32] up to eight to speak with you again tonight as it identifies the heeding snow on behalf of Capitol
[42:41] funding. Thank you. Thank you. Limited. Now it's official. And I am also the property owner to the
[42:50] West that my property directly abuts St. George Washington Boulevard as well so and I've
[43:01] been to the government first and as an alias Robert McPherson is deceased and I helped
[43:08] with the probate of yeah has a state and his children and they had a hard time figuring
[43:16] out what to do with their property they wanted it all sold but they didn't agree
[43:20] to trust each other on how to sell it and so we offered to buy it from them because they
[43:26] all trusted us but not each other.
[43:32] Looking at this, we do feel like we have made multiple
[43:36] concessions in this and listening to the different concerns of residents. We feel like we have
[43:45] address those. We recognize that the general
[43:50] plan amendment does not proceed to give us the ability for
[43:55] sure to seek C2 zoning, but I would indicate that properties
[44:02] to the east of this are all C2 and just like I heard some very
[44:11] eloquent comments from both of these two council members. Things change and
[44:17] perspectives are normally only set from when you moved to an area. And we also
[44:26] heard our public works director tell us that this road connecting through from
[44:33] Staley Farms all the way out to the new Southern Parkway was in your road's master plan since 2002.
[44:44] I would tell you that it is also was in commercial out near the Southern Parkway out there.
[44:52] I think was in your general plan as early as 2007 as my understanding.
[44:58] So, um,
[45:00] Looking at those and there are many people I'm sure, especially to the north, that may predate that. And their perspectives and what they anticipated would be built in this area may be different than others. However, when you have a road that over time, things change. And zoning can change.
[45:29] to your actual zoning is not a guarantee that it will always in perpetuity remain that
[45:36] same zone because things change just as George Washington Boulevard has changed.
[45:42] As soon as Washington City realized that St. George City wanted to put and connect this
[45:49] all the way through so that individuals could drive from the southern parkway in Washington
[45:54] and get on all the way through over another bridge
[45:58] over the river and onto the freeway.
[46:03] This perspective changed for the city
[46:06] and this became a major arterial,
[46:09] from a minor arterial.
[46:13] Also, there was the appreciation too
[46:16] that this type of connection,
[46:19] developments like Long Valley of States,
[46:21] states that this would become a needed or necessary hub for at least, if nothing else,
[46:29] neighborhood commercial, likely community commercial for the whole area.
[46:36] And so because of things have changed, general plans have changed, road master plans have
[46:41] changed, and so have the desire of an applicant, it would seem only reasonable to have commercial
[46:55] along the commercial of a sea-to-nature along the second busiest road in Washington City.
[47:09] And we have tried to address some feathering or transitioning by putting C1 towards the
[47:20] back.
[47:22] We have identified that we will not have through traffic out of this development into the
[47:30] parcel north of mine, the one that is at my client's own as well, which is a concession
[47:37] to them. They haven't asked for that portion to be commercial. And we have even in the general
[47:45] plan amendment agreed to the jog that we see up there. So I also want to speak to one other point
[47:58] about PUDs. PUDs, and I've been a municipal attorney for 24 years, and you've got a fantastic
[48:08] one, I think I said that last time. But I will tell you this,
[48:16] PUDs are great. PUDs often
[48:20] times have what we call a take-off period, that they give an applicant some time in which
[48:26] to commence development of the PUD if it is going to be just a general list of possible
[48:34] uses in Washington City, that is 18 months. That can be extended once by the community
[48:44] development director, the zoning administrator for six months and one more time for another
[48:49] six months by the City Council and that is all that is allowed by your ordinance. So you
[48:54] are asking us by asking us to go to a PUD to take that plane and get it running down
[49:07] the tarmac and getting it up off the ground and fully flying to the detail of what a PUD
[49:16] requires within two and a half years at the longest, likely a year and a half.
[49:22] So, when someone is trailblazing or first out, if the area is green and we're coming there,
[49:31] we don't know what is all the needs there.
[49:35] And as homes continue and as traffic counts are becoming better identified when long
[49:52] followed to I-15.
[49:57] No one really knows. And so a lot of commercial tenants, users need
[50:05] to see data before they are willing to come. And so in our mind, a PUD with just uses,
[50:15] all that is is starting the PUD process. But the PUD process isn't finalized as I read
[50:21] your ordinance until we actually come in within that 18 months or 24 months or 30 months
[50:28] whatever it may be with extensions and we put a whole site plan, conceptual plan together
[50:33] showing you buildings, locations, road configuration, you know travel configuration within it and showing
[50:43] when you side elevations, all of those things.
[50:48] And that is when the PUD is truly finalized.
[50:54] So it just leaves a big open, in my mind, a PUD
[50:57] in this situation unless we do exactly who all of the tenants
[51:01] would be and how the uses will be
[51:04] is like kicking the can down the road
[51:06] and it's only a short road.
[51:09] Mr. Snow, let me answer you questions.
[51:10] So, yep, so what you're asking for is the straight zoning, though, right?
[51:15] It is, it is a straight zoning, but a split zoning, and I would ask, there was someone
[51:23] asked the question, I don't know, but I would be happy to talk with my clients, if there's
[51:28] a concern over a specific type of use, I appreciate that Jeremy made the comment that he did, but
[51:37] But it is not uncommon in the municipalities that I represent and in the municipalities
[51:44] that I practice before and behalf of developers to have a straight zoning, have conditions
[51:52] which limit certain uses of concern for the area.
[51:57] It can be made in the motion to approve and it can indicate that it needs to be reflected
[52:04] in the conditional use permit when that is applied for by the applicant. I think that
[52:10] is the most simple way to do that. Does okay, you're okay, she can work out as a, so
[52:18] we appreciate your comments, thank you so much. So as I said earlier, the public hearing was held
[52:26] at the Pining Commission level. Then Mayor Staley allowed comments two weeks ago. He's really
[52:33] get to do that and we want to be fair tonight and make sure everyone is heard here tonight as well
[52:38] so we don't we're not going to have another public hearing but there can be a uh I would accept
[52:45] maybe one or two people that come up and and speak hopefully in a constructive way about the
[52:52] applicants um their new application which from their own admission they've tried to accommodate
[53:02] some of the concerns from the existing homeowners there and so again we're
[53:06] not we're not going to have another public hearing but we could have if
[53:10] someone a designated or someone that would like to come up and speak to this I
[53:17] would like you to consider that this is an effort to find the middle ground we've
[53:22] heard some really good comments tonight about building the community and how
[53:25] communities change and how they need to change and how they need to stay
[53:29] current and relevant with growth so I would I would hope that you at least can see
[53:36] this as an effort to find your way to the middle so is there anyone that would
[53:41] like to come up and speak to this in a can
[53:50] I make one comment please I think we
[53:54] need to remember that the general plan on this has already been changed it's already
[53:58] community commercial is that correct? Correct, it is not. So it's going to be
[54:04] commercial, that's already a given. And so what we're doing tonight is the
[54:09] zoning. What kind of commercial is it going to be? So we know it's already
[54:15] commercial because it's community commercial, right? So we're doing zoning tonight.
[54:19] Yeah, sure. So again, Chris Kurs, but Jessica, I resident. So let's go back to
[54:26] what you just said. We already know it was going to be zone commercial. It was originally
[54:29] zone commercial, right? It was a neighborhood commercial parcel. We go back to the general
[54:33] plan that everybody's been referencing this evening and the latest incarnation of it, which
[54:38] is dated to 2017, it shows that that section there on to the south was originally neighborhood
[54:45] commercial and it was supposed to be feathered going east out the SR7 neighborhood C1, C2.
[54:52] The reason for that, again, is that it is bordering low density and very low density housing.
[55:00] On two separate occasions, your own city planning commission has stated this is an improper
[55:06] change in accordance with your own guidelines, that there is not supposed to be C1, let alone
[55:14] C2 commercial, directly bordering low density and very low density housing in the city.
[55:22] You already have orchestrated commercial C1, C2 at the intersection of George Washington
[55:30] Boulevard and Washington Fields Road.
[55:32] You've got a grocery store going in there right community service.
[55:36] You have other businesses that are going to be coming in.
[55:41] Third and Buma, half a mile from here, meant to meet that community need.
[55:46] You also have the intersection of SR7 and George Washington Boulevard.
[55:51] That, according to the general plan that is still on the city website, was meant to be
[55:56] designated for this purpose here.
[55:59] C2 was never meant to be pushed this close up to very low density and low density residential.
[56:06] There is no appropriate feathering here.
[56:09] Even if you go with this plan here, you say, okay, well, we're only going to do six acres
[56:12] as C2 and then the top acreage is going to be C1.
[56:17] You're still butting C1 directly next to very low density and low density housing.
[56:22] Which is completely contrary to what the City of Washington has told the tax paying residents
[56:27] they would do with the development of the city.
[56:29] It's completely contrary.
[56:32] This is an improper change.
[56:35] It is absolutely going to impact the neighborhood.
[56:37] It's going to impact everything from traffic to property values to the quality of life and
[56:43] living on the people there, many people who have had homes up on majestic, first homes
[56:47] that are 20 and 25 years old, that people have been living in since it was built.
[56:53] If you go back to the general plan, when we purchased our home, I did my due diligence,
[56:57] I looked at the city of Washington, Utah's general plan to see what is coming in this area
[57:02] here.
[57:03] In your own general plan stated, we're going to have residential that's going to be feathered
[57:07] out eventually to neighborhood, then C1 and C2, and if you go back to the general plan
[57:12] that was just back in February of this year, it demonstrates that's what was in place,
[57:18] that's what we anticipated was going to be developed.
[57:21] Nobody has said that they were against neighborhood commercial being developed there.
[57:26] Not a single resident, we all knew that was coming.
[57:29] What we asked was that the city adhere to its own rules with development,
[57:33] and that they allow appropriate feathering from very low density and low density
[57:39] before going to see one let alone C2 and what you're contemplating tonight is
[57:45] that all the people here who have the parcel set are less than a block away
[57:48] one on the caddy one on the corner that is bordering will now have to accept
[57:52] the fact that I'm going to be looking at potentially a C2 zone commercial with no
[57:57] PUD and then this developer here who purchased the lot for the purpose of
[58:03] making this change they can turn around so a lot and because it's now been
[58:06] change to C2, the next developer can put whatever they want in.
[58:09] So these people on these one acre and half acre lots are going to be staring at the back
[58:13] of who knows what's going to go in there as long as it fits the C2 definition.
[58:17] Maybe they're staring at a home depot, maybe they're staring at a car sales block, right?
[58:24] Anything that fits in that definition.
[58:29] When we purchased our home, as many of the residents that are here tonight that reside within
[58:36] of vicinity here. We were all under the impression that the city of Washington was going to abide
[58:42] at least in the most general and normal of terms with the general plan, with what the city
[58:50] intended for the area. We all recognized George Washington's boulevard went all the way through.
[58:55] We all recognized it was going to be connecting around that. We all recognized commercial was going
[58:59] to go in. But the commercial zoning needs to be done appropriately. It needs to be feathered
[59:05] properly. You can't but see to right up next to acre and half acre parcels. It's not proper.
[59:12] It's against your own city general plan. Your planning commission agrees with me on two
[59:18] separate occasions. They voted unanimously to state this was improper and they did not approve it.
[59:25] So why the city council is choosing to put their own planning commission? That I don't know.
[59:30] I don't understand the reason behind that. But you have a planning commission that's entailed
[59:35] will listen to the residents taking all the information in and come into conclusion making
[59:39] a recommendation that on two occasions now has recommended this should not go through.
[59:44] And yet it's been pushed through and pushed through and pushed through the point that in
[59:47] February, oh, we're going to take this neighborhood commercial and make a thin strip of C-1.
[59:52] So now we want to make the whole block open, C-2, whatever you want to put in.
[59:55] If they give it from a tax-paying resident perspective, because the only-
[1:00:00] I can think of what's going on here. How are we being represented? We say you're listening to the concerns of residents. How many times have we come up to the podium and spoken? How many letters have we submitted to the council respectfully so? Well, we appreciate your comments. We really do. We work hard and we're trying to find. And I know you're in a tough position. I recognize that. But this is not a tough position because you have a complete open desert to the east of it.
[1:00:25] This is being shoved through, and this is contrary to what the City of Washington has told
[1:00:31] its residents was going to be the pathway for development.
[1:00:34] Thank you so much.
[1:00:35] Thank you.
[1:00:46] Councillor, would you like to hear anyone else before we consider the motion?
[1:00:52] I think we have heard a lot of people, but it's up to you.
[1:00:55] I think we've heard a lot of people watch the planning commission.
[1:00:58] That's all the comments that we're going to take.
[1:01:00] If it's just if you want anything else before we consider a motion if you'd like to have anything we could accommodate that
[1:01:07] Yeah,
[1:01:13] I mean I want to get a couple things on the on the record, right? I I
[1:01:18] Understand
[1:01:20] People's concerns. I really do.
[1:01:26] I also understand that the guy that owns a property has a right to
[1:01:30] Right and his
[1:01:34] desires a general plan is something that a city council at least until he comes in and makes an application or
[1:01:41] It goes to zoning or it goes to the future entitlements.
[1:01:45] That's a council plan, and that's a, we're doing this number, right?
[1:01:51] That's not a, that's not a line
[1:01:56] in the sand that says it can't be changed.
[1:01:57] There's a reason why there's an application process.
[1:02:01] Being somebody that has done this before, I also understand that commercial elevates the
[1:02:10] community and I know that's hard to understand here or to to agree with but
[1:02:20] the lens project
[1:02:21] over there there's there's residential directly adjacent to the lens project right across
[1:02:28] the fields and lens is a C2 you know I don't think that's an offensive project and I think
[1:02:35] a lot of the people here have been there lens I go there lens it's a great product you know
[1:02:40] or
[1:02:43] to recognize that just as much as the applicant
[1:02:47] that has a right to do with his property,
[1:02:51] I would defend every resident's right in the same manner
[1:02:54] if you chose to do something with your property
[1:02:56] if it made sense and was within reason, right?
[1:03:01] I think it's also fair that in general,
[1:03:09] people are resistant to change.
[1:03:11] I think the fear of the unknown sometimes is worse than the actual and I'll use this example.
[1:03:19] We had a group in front of this council that was adjacent to a piece of ground, there was
[1:03:28] a formal
[1:03:31] application that came in to change it to a park and they hated the idea of a park,
[1:03:38] right?
[1:03:39] Because they didn't want to have to listen to the kids.
[1:03:41] That's an extreme example, but the reality was that neighborhood was resistant to change.
[1:03:48] They didn't want to have to, they liked their comfort zone.
[1:03:51] They liked the way it was.
[1:03:52] They
[1:03:58] appreciate that.
[1:04:07] Make concessions and kept a residential buffer.
[1:04:13] He's also maintained a further buffer from the C2 to that area request
[1:04:22] for him to make.
[1:04:34] I will make a motion to approve an ordinance for going to change Z-26-14 from C-1 and R-1-10
[1:04:43] to C-2 located at Antigua Lane and George Washington Boulevard from
[1:04:50] C-1 and R-1-10 to C-1
[1:04:53] and C-2 with the additional-
[1:04:56] I
[1:05:07] have a motion by Councilman Beliston.
[1:05:09] Do we have a second?
[1:05:11] Second?
[1:05:12] I have a second by Councilman Henderson.
[1:05:16] We'll start the roll call.
[1:05:18] Councilman Beliston, may I just clarify
[1:05:19] if we're going to take in your condition
[1:05:22] that the entire partial be subject
[1:05:25] to a condition to use permit.
[1:05:28] Can you add any specifics as to what you're wanting
[1:05:33] to have be conditional?
[1:05:34] So, are you saying subject to the condition of use as?
[1:05:39] You're talking about each building as it comes forward would be subject to a condition of use permit.
[1:05:43] Correct.
[1:05:44] I mean, they could bring the whole thing together and have one CUP if they wanted to, but
[1:05:48] if they, but each building would have to come in with the, with the CUP.
[1:05:52] So, every structure would be subject to see condition of use permit process?
[1:05:57] Correct.
[1:05:57] I mean, if they split it up and they brought in one parcel and it would be subject to it.
[1:06:01] But everything within this entire site would be subject to the government.
[1:06:06] I'm asking to clarify not to debate, so you guys want to make sure that was clear for the record and for staff, right?
[1:06:13] Okay, so we have a motion and a second.
[1:06:15] We're going to start with a roll call vote with Councilwoman Kasperson.
[1:06:19] Nay.
[1:06:19] Is a nay, Councilman Belsen.
[1:06:21] Aye.
[1:06:22] Anderson.
[1:06:24] The votes.
[1:06:25] Aye.
[1:06:26] I.E.
[1:06:26] Is an aye.
[1:06:40] We
[1:06:58] have a 5D which is consideration to approve an ordinance for zone change Z-26-16 from R-1-6 to PUD are located at 525 North 100 East.
[1:07:14] The applicant is Michael Fortune, and we will have this presented by our community development director, Elvin Gim.
[1:07:24] Thank you, Council.
[1:07:25] There's a little bit of history here with Main Street connecting to I-15.
[1:07:29] We had a pretty good discussion there at the planning commission level.
[1:07:32] I don't want to bore you with those big conversations.
[1:07:37] I'm pretty sure you guys are aware of what happened.
[1:07:40] You'd have purchased and the excessive land there, so we'll dig into this application.
[1:07:44] It
[1:07:52] concerns itself of .71 acres, and the proposal includes five detached units, 400 square feet in size, and one manager's unit, 600 square feet in size.
[1:08:05] Each of the five units will be provided with a 10 by 10 shed and front patio area.
[1:08:11] Provided parking is two stalls for each unit with an additional two visitor parking stalls for a total of 14 spaces.
[1:08:19] the managers unit will have one attached garage parking is adequate as shown.
[1:08:28] The can is asking for setback relief for both covered parking structures.
[1:08:33] You can see the blue area there.
[1:08:37] They're tucked right next to the property line.
[1:08:39] The applicant's asking for a zero setback in that regard.
[1:08:44] And those setbacks will need to be approved by the City Council.
[1:08:48] On August 19th, the Planning Commission reviewed this request and unanimously recommended approval onto the council based on the findings and conditions below.
[1:08:59] Noting this project should remain available for aging Utah veterans for its entirety and parking should be increased.
[1:09:08] I would like to just read condition number 13, which was added from the Planning Commission, which states this development shall remain available for.
[1:09:17] and committed to providing affordable housing to aging Utah veterans for its entirety.
[1:09:23] That concludes staff report. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.
[1:09:27] Elden, is it a requirement that they have covered parking?
[1:09:31] Or is this what the applicant wants to do?
[1:09:35] They are required to have covered parking.
[1:09:40] The applicant's asking for setback relief.
[1:09:43] Yeah, I'm good with the setback relief because of the situation.
[1:09:45] I just don't feel like we should require them to do cover parking when we're trying to reduce costs
[1:09:49] So that's more affordable and then we say well you got to add all these extra costs for cover parking
[1:09:54] Which maybe they want to do it. I just I think this is an aspect we should look at
[1:09:59] And I'd love to hear from the applicant on their thoughts on that portion
[1:10:03] because I'm not I mean I don't mean with $10,000 $15,000 but every $1,000 hurts when you're trying to get some
[1:10:10] relief on this affordable housing and it's already a
[1:10:13] location on it's adjusted to the on rat by 15 and we're just trying for some
[1:10:19] affordable housing I want to make it still nice but useful as well that's
[1:10:24] just the question but it is a requirement we told them they had to have
[1:10:27] correct correct
[1:10:32] yes it it is required and it's kind of a nice for the veterans
[1:10:37] to have covered parking how hot how hot it is it's not hot it's warm I think we
[1:10:47] I don't know, I just, I know we require it, but anything we can save, and I'm sure they would like it maybe that much of a cost. I don't know. I've never purchased a parking garage for myself.
[1:10:59] Is the applicant say that they are going to require the covered parking or is it an optional?
[1:11:05] That didn't come into play until staff required it as per city ordinance. So I think it'd be okay not doing covered parking but we would definitely want to clear that up with them.
[1:11:13] Council be more comfortable with making that optional.
[1:11:17] I think this is a great use for these unusual parcels.
[1:11:23] And I'm, you know, I don't care about the covered part.
[1:11:26] You know, I'm indifferent about it.
[1:11:30] Is the applicant here?
[1:11:32] Yeah.
[1:11:33] Hold on just one second.
[1:11:36] I'll do anything else that you'd like to share with the...
[1:11:40] I did forget to mention you don't own the property.
[1:11:43] the Africans do in a 99-year lease so they would construct the buildings, drop them, and
[1:11:49] then at the end of the 90, 90-year, either re-op or disassemble the project, and you know,
[1:11:55] it would take the land again.
[1:11:57] Okay.
[1:11:58] Anything else?
[1:11:59] Please.
[1:12:03] Okay, with Fortune representing USA Project Dollar, and I just want to say, first of all, thank
[1:12:08] you.
[1:12:08] This has been a project that we've been working on for a really long time, and we want to
[1:12:13] I think Governor Spencer Cox for his leadership and working with this partnership.
[1:12:17] His office Steve Waldrop, Matt Meyer up there, but then the entire Washington City staff
[1:12:22] and Mayor Staley, but also the planning commission as well.
[1:12:24] So thank you to everyone for helping us bring this to this point and we really appreciate
[1:12:29] it.
[1:12:30] About the cover parking, I think it's something that I'm from northern Utah and 110 today was
[1:12:36] kind of crazy.
[1:12:37] And so I agree with you, Councilwoman Casperson, that the cover parking would be nice, but
[1:12:42] with you, Council Member Coates, I think it would be reasonable to make it optional because
[1:12:48] we haven't priced everything out to see what this project is going to fully cost. From
[1:12:54] that standpoint, with the improvements of what we need to do, we know what the housing
[1:12:57] costs, Korean and R, and stuff like that. We're trying to do this to provide our struggling
[1:13:04] aging veterans who are going to fix the income, and they may be running a studio now for $400
[1:13:10] $500 a month, and on their fixed stipend from the government, that's $1,000, if their
[1:13:16] landlord realizes they can increase that price to $7 or $800, you know, now their choices
[1:13:22] are very limited in what they can do.
[1:13:24] And so sort of these gets sold to the veterans or you just rent it to them.
[1:13:27] They are leased, so the USA Project Valor provides kind of, we looked at what other organizations
[1:13:34] are able to do.
[1:13:35] The VA has some great programs, community organizations have great programs to out veterans find
[1:13:39] relief through medical help stuff like that but the biggest thing is housing and you can't
[1:13:45] really get help if you don't have an address or a place to call home and that was the missing
[1:13:49] gap that we saw and we're deciding to to fill that need and so it was brought up in the
[1:13:54] planning commission these aren't going to be transient units they're not going to be someone
[1:13:59] there for you know 30 days or 90 days these are for aging veterans where the hope is that they'll
[1:14:05] be there until either they pass away or have to move into a care facility but I think one
[1:14:10] of the conditions that we're open to from the planning commission would be that they're
[1:14:14] one-year leases for the units.
[1:14:23] Is the, from what I understand is the, the home is it being donated by a different company?
[1:14:32] So that will be built on these.
[1:14:34] The homes?
[1:14:36] The five veteran units are module units.
[1:14:39] They're from boxable corporation out of Las Vegas.
[1:14:41] So they're 400 square feet roughly and so they're not big, but they're enough for a veteran or a veteran couple to call home, and we're purchasing those, but we did receive and are in the process of receiving a substantial donation from Paulo and Galliano here.
[1:15:00] Money, the founders of Boxable Corporation, and so that will help with offsetting those costs. But we will bring in other partners for road lay improvements and foundations and stuff like that with those as well. So. How long has your your nonprofit been. So we have been active as a 501 c3 nonprofit, I believe since 2024. I was in Minnesota for two years and I just got back in November of last year. So I'm catching up a while as we go.
[1:15:29] long but since 2024 we opened our first unit with the box we ended up in
[1:15:35] Nibbli and we have successfully helped 25 veterans over the lifetime of our
[1:15:41] charity and that number is probably a little bit higher if we include their
[1:15:44] families as well but currently we operate four homes in northern Utah we work
[1:15:49] with organizations and so-like like the other side village we're working with the
[1:15:54] iron county care and share their homeless center in Cedar City and so we've been
[1:15:59] really active for the last two years but this has been a concept for maybe three or four years
[1:16:06] and it's just putting it all together with the governor's leadership bringing this together
[1:16:11] to this point so. What would you say do you have a approximate number of how much of the money
[1:16:19] goes to the veterans and what's the overhead of the nonprofit? So our goal is a charity and the
[1:16:28] working in right now. 99 to 95 to 95% of every dollar we raise or as
[1:16:35] contribute goes directly to helping veterans. All of our staff, all of our
[1:16:39] consultants work as volunteers and only receive compensation when the budget
[1:16:46] shows itself. And so our chairman doesn't take a salary. None of our board of
[1:16:52] directors takes a salary. I don't take a salary. We're all doing this because we
[1:16:56] veterans have been willing to sacrifice. We know what they've been willing to do for this country.
[1:17:01] And when they're in this point where it's, you know, between living in my car or different things,
[1:17:10] this is what we thought would be the least that we could do to show our thanks for what they were
[1:17:15] willing to do for us. Thank you. Thank you. Good comments. Any other questions?
[1:17:22] We're good. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:17:26] Any other discussion before we consider a motion?
[1:17:35] I'll make a motion. We approve zone change Z-26-16 from R-1-6 to PUDR located at 525 North 100 East with the option of the shade structures per the applicant's position.
[1:17:49] Motion by Councilman Coates, second by Councilman Beliston. We'll do a roll call vote starting with Councilman Beliston.
[1:17:57] Aye. Councilman Henderson.
[1:17:58] Aye. Councilman Coates.
[1:18:00] I am an I, Councilwoman Casper-Sleek.
[1:18:03] Thank you, the motion carries.
[1:18:06] I just want to make note too.
[1:18:07] Back in March, Mayor Staley went to Salt Lake, and he attended the event that the young
[1:18:14] man mentioned.
[1:18:16] Heather Cox was there, and Senator Walter heads up as a portable housing alliance group.
[1:18:23] And this was a first of sorts for the state of Utah.
[1:18:28] So maybe I'm bragging a little bit, maybe I'm just proud of my city, but I'm going to say that.
[1:18:34] This is what we try to do.
[1:18:36] We, one of the first cities in the entire country, especially the state, to utilize SITLA land for affordable housing,
[1:18:44] thanks to good health, and now remnant parcels from UDOT for our veterans.
[1:18:51] So, that is a collaborative effort from our city, our mayor, our council, our staff members
[1:18:58] that understand that these sacrifices aren't just words deep, that we have to, we have
[1:19:03] to put our property where our hearts are sometimes.
[1:19:08] So we appreciate you being here tonight and we look forward to further collaboration as
[1:19:13] possible.
[1:19:16] Thank you.
[1:19:18] Okay. That concludes our regular agenda. Reports. Oh, sorry. We have a resolution,
[1:19:27] 6A consideration
[1:19:29] to approve a resolution declaring intent to consider a municipal boundary line adjustment
[1:19:36] between Washington City and the City of St. George. And I'm sure that you all saw this and read
[1:19:40] it three times before your heart got back for it belonged as mine did. But this is a fairly
[1:19:46] straight forward annexation where we the the center line of the road was moved in this this small
[1:19:55] parcels from this developer that's only a small segment of ground ended up on the state
[1:20:00] George's side at the boundary change and so it's a very boilerplate change just to try to accommodate
[1:20:05] this owner with and getting his sliver property back in the city that will get ministering
[1:20:12] and it's undevelopable as a
[1:20:18] small little one, right?
[1:20:21] No, I'm just kidding.
[1:20:22] Mayor Procter, I'm ready for a motion.
[1:20:23] If you please, Councilman.
[1:20:24] I'll make a motion.
[1:20:25] We approve the resolution declaring the attempt
[1:20:27] to consider municipal boundary line adjustment
[1:20:29] between Washington City and St. George City as outlined
[1:20:31] in our second now.
[1:20:34] Motion by Councilman Coast, seconded by Councilman Beliston
[1:20:36] with a roll call vote starting with Councilman Henderson.
[1:20:39] Aye.
[1:20:40] votes?
[1:20:41] I'm an aye.
[1:20:41] Councilman Casperson.
[1:20:42] Aye.
[1:20:42] Thank you. That motion carries as well. I'm a knight too. I'm sorry. Commissioner, Commissioner, I'm sorry.
[1:20:52] Councilmember, we'll just move on. Okay. I owe you a coke or something there, buddy. Okay, thank you. Thank you.
[1:21:00] Okay, report of officers from Assign Committees, Councilman Ben-Belston.
[1:21:08] You celebrate a little bit, relax a little bit, or it's telling me, all right.
[1:21:14] That's been interesting.
[1:21:16] Thank you.
[1:21:17] So I had a tree shade, or a shade tree committee meeting this afternoon, and took me on a tour
[1:21:24] of their new tree farm up there, so they are, you know, rather than buying all of their
[1:21:31] trees at a nursery, they're going to try a tree farm to save a little bit of
[1:21:35] money and to try to get some better quality trees. So what they're doing is
[1:21:39] they're purchasing, you know, $100 trees and then they're going to grow them
[1:21:45] into $1,000 trees, you know, in their little tree farm and hopefully have some
[1:21:52] good large caliber trees to plant in the city, you know, parks and things like
[1:21:59] that. I was really impressed. They've got a whole system where they grow them in these
[1:22:03] bags, the root balls are contained in these bags, and there's a watering system. They're
[1:22:09] working really hard at the parks department and doing a good job, so I appreciated that
[1:22:13] tour.
[1:22:15] Thank you, Councilman Anderson, Councilman Coates. Nothing, no committee since the last meeting,
[1:22:19] so thank you. And I have some things, but I'll hold off and tell our next meeting when we have
[1:22:24] a follow-up meeting at the MPO.
[1:22:26] Councilwoman Kasperson, give anything to share.
[1:22:29] Nothing to share there.
[1:22:32] Okay, city manager report to Mr. Red.
[1:22:36] Thank you, just a few quick items.
[1:22:38] I went to the quarterly water district meeting today.
[1:22:41] It was good information.
[1:22:42] We still have strong water in our reservoirs.
[1:22:45] They're still quite full, which is really good
[1:22:47] after two years of poor winters, but it's gonna start looking
[1:22:51] a little rough if we don't get a nice winter this year.
[1:22:54] The water district did update.
[1:22:55] everybody on the the new plan for the Colorado River and for sharing water
[1:23:00] basically the lower base of states had to take a haircut so they immediately
[1:23:03] filed suit so all the attorneys will make a ton of money while they figure this
[1:23:08] all out it doesn't make any more water but but they'll make a lot of money. Public
[1:23:13] works is currently making an emergency repair on 1100 east off of Washington
[1:23:17] Dam Road there was a sinkhole that the developed in the road there was a farmer
[1:23:22] built storm drain that takes water from the old farms out to the river that developed problems
[1:23:28] and created a sinkhole. So after some settling, they're working on that project right now, but
[1:23:33] it's an emergency fix. The Brio Parkway and Boinevista traffic signals also underway, where the
[1:23:39] wing co is under construction. We're seeing long lead times on the steel for those traffic signals,
[1:23:45] so they're going to order that ahead of time. But we hope to have that in next spring.
[1:23:49] Do we have any traffic signals planned down by LA and Sticky Phones area?
[1:23:55] I'd not in this year's budget now, but there are just had some residents reach out and I told them that we would have to
[1:24:01] Evaluate it, but I don't think I didn't know of any in the short term.
[1:24:04] I saw the same email and the difficulty there is it really it really won't bet warrants right now down there
[1:24:11] It's and that's what I told them when they letched out to me, so but we have we have
[1:24:16] Where are they asking for that?
[1:24:18] Down in LA.
[1:24:20] They were asking for the Sticky Farms Parkway
[1:24:22] and Washington Fields Road, which is kind of the end
[1:24:24] of that project, and as it builds out,
[1:24:27] certainly someday the warrants will be there,
[1:24:29] but right now, they're more worried about speed and noise,
[1:24:33] and that's just not what warrants traffic signals.
[1:24:36] So it's got to be cross-traffic.
[1:24:40] We also, this is an interesting thing to point out,
[1:24:43] and we have Battalion Chief Moore here,
[1:24:45] but we had great response, the fire department opened a recruitment for some positions and we had 65 certified applicants.
[1:24:54] They narrowed it down to eight very strong candidates, including four who already work for us part-time.
[1:25:00] The biggest difference is they opened up some new fire academies locally and in Cedar City and they're producing really good qualified applicants.
[1:25:09] So that's a real positive for the area.
[1:25:12] We have one open position right now and we have two more that will fill at the end of the year.
[1:25:21] The IT Department also completed an upgrade of our city's firewall last week and very minimal issues.
[1:25:26] They did it on a Friday afternoon and did a great job there.
[1:25:29] The upgrade gives us better visibility into our network and it's another strengthening for our cybersecurity for our city.
[1:25:38] That's all I have.
[1:25:39] Mayor Protein.
[1:25:40] Thank you.
[1:25:41] Council, you get the last word.
[1:25:42] Anything?
[1:25:43] I make a motion.
[1:25:44] We close the meeting.
[1:25:46] There's a motion.
[1:25:47] Thank you.
[1:25:47] Second.
[1:25:48] Third.
[1:25:49] Never would I.
[1:25:50] I.
[1:25:51] I.
[1:25:51] Thank you so much.
[1:25:53] Thanks.