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Good morning, everyone. I will call the Swashow County Board Accounting Commissioners meeting to order. It is August 26, it is 10 o one a.m. and we will start with a salute to the flag and I see that John Plansberg from the city of Reno is in the audience if you could please lead us.

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Thank

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you very much. Madam Clerk, if we could please have the roll call.

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Alexis Hill chair here. Vice chair Jean Hermann is absent.

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Commissioner Clark.

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Commissioner Garcia.

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Here. Commissioner Andriola.

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Present. Assistant County Manager Dave Solara.

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Here. Chief Deputy District Attorney Mike Large.

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Thank you very much.

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We'll now move into our public comment with ACM Slerow because please lead us into that.

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Item number three is public comment.

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Comment heard under this item.

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We've limited to three minutes per person and may pertain to manage both on and off the commission agenda.

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Unused time may not be allocated to other speakers.

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Commission will hear public comment during individual action items.

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With comment limited to three minutes per person.

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comments are to be made to the commission as a whole and virtual public comment maybe

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taking one facility is available. We will also have virtual public comment in Incline Village

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on Act 16 as well. Thank you so much Madam Clerk. First up we have James Stewart followed by

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Terry Brooks.

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Good morning commissioners and staff. My name is Jim Stewart and I'm one of the

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candidates for the open space and parks commission and it was suggested I come to this meeting to introduce myself to you.

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So, hello everyone.

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I decided to apply for this position because I'm a renonative and just have so many great memories of the times spent in our parks and really countless hours over my lifetime.

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Recreating and parks and on the trails and open spaces as a child and as a adult and with my kids and now with my grandkids.

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And as a result of that, I've become very passionate about our incredible parks and trails

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and open spaces.

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And I believe I can provide a pretty unique perspective because of my in-person use of so

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many of the parks in the area and in trails.

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And I would love to play a more formal role in preserving and enhancing what we have.

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I live a two-minute walk from Manchester and fell and I use that part daily for a variety

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of reasons.

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I take my dog every day, year round to the pasture, offly sherry, that's really non-negotiable

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in my house according to my dog and I write my mountain bike through the park to access

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the trails up on P-Bine and we attend numerous events that occur in the park over the years.

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And sometimes just at the walk through that arboretum in those areas just to clear my head.

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I also have grandkids that play soccer throughout the valley,

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everywhere from Lazy Five to South Valley.

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So I get a pretty broad perspective of what's going on in our park system.

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And I read somewhere, and I'm really paraphrasing this,

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but I truly believe this, that the quality of community can really be judged by the quality of its parks.

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And I think that's very true and I think we should be very proud of our parks and trails in open space of what we have here.

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I also like to think that my many years on this planet have given me rewarded me with a certain sense of common sense and of activity and ability to analyze and solve problems and come up with answers to issues.

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Just to close, I would be really honored to serve on this committee.

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I would love to help try to meet the challenges and to maintain and improve our magnificent parks and trails and open space.

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And thank you very much for your time and consideration.

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I don't know if it's appropriate to have questions or not, but if it is, I'm more than willing.

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Again, thank you for your time and consideration.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Terry Brooks followed by Steve.

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Good morning, it's me, Terry Brooks again, and today I came here to face the act of discrimination

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when it comes to health and race. When people who own a lot of housing discriminate against

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people because of the race, then a lot of people live in worse housing because of the race.

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And because a lot of schools were once segregated by race, kids then lived with less education

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because of the race. And because they had less education because of the race, they wound up getting fewer and lower paying jobs because of the race.

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And because of lack of employment, many also lack healthcare. So they wound up living most of their lives without having any healthcare.

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But now things are somewhat better. And healthcare workers don't refer to race. They use the word ethnicity instead when referring to a case.

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The true meaning of the word ethnicity is a subcultural group with in a multicultural group.

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And by using the word ethnicity not only is it more accurate but it has much better publicity.

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So by using such an accurate word, such healthcare workers see humans as they are.

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Instead of using the words that the discriminators say they are.

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Health care workers do their work to keep people alive so they do their best to help everyone survive.

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It's true that some ethnicities are more susceptible to some diseases,

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so instead of discriminating by race helping all ethnicities please us.

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Helping people of all ethnicities to recover and stay alive eventually helps the whole human species to recover and survive.

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Well, I started anthropology in classes at the university. One thing I learned about evolution was the value of diversity.

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I would like to thank you all for listening to me today and I look forward to coming back if I'm healthy enough to be here that day.

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Thank you, Mr. Brooks.

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Steve Dolan followed by Marine McElroy.

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I think it was on. Do you see the red button?

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There you go.

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Thank you. Madam Chair and fellow commissioners, I appreciate the opportunity to speak.

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My name is Steve Dolan. I've lived in inclined village on the North Shore for

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33 years raised both my children there. And I'm the director of the Friends of

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on the North Shore.

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We are not in favor of the item 16, amending the Washington County Code

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at chapter 1-10 to update articles to 20 Tahoe area and to 20.1 Tahoe area design standards.

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I fought the Oakland Fire Confligration in 1991, and the insurance company, evaluation of

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that fire, stated that it was in most part caused

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by high density housing on narrow hillside

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streets. Can you say Tahoe Basin? Can you say ADUs? Can you say higher buildings? And

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no off street parking requirements? That's what you'll be voting on today with item

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16. That's pretty scary, specifically in item 16. You want you to provide for the reduction

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in parking minimums, and that means no off-street parking for condominiums and things like that.

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Modify minimum setbacks, making them smaller, crowding the streets again.

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Modify encroachment for the crowding the streets.

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Modify standards for accessory dwelling units, allowing ADUs on less than one acre.

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Chair, you once told me you weren't going to touch that about four years going.

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21, 21, apparently, we're touching it now. Then there's a legal speak involved in this, which basically

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says the owner must hold harmless this board, because your lawyers have told you to say that,

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because you know and they know how dangerous these changes in this amendment process will

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for North Shore. It's already dangerous, and this will make it more dangerous.

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The buzzwords for this are TAP, the TRPA provided for a Vegas North concept that's 20 years

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down the road. The monetization efforts are identified by the thank you.

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Thank you

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for this opportunity to speak, I appreciate it.

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For the record, my name is Marine McElroy.

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I'm calling on our commissioners today to agenda is a discussion of the use of our county

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in its support of ice enforcement.

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Before, Sheriff Bailem's approval request for the Homeland Security grant can be considered,

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there are still many unanswered questions that must be addressed for instance.

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How are ice detainees logged into the Washington County Sheriff's Office booking System?

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We need clearer data that confirms Sheriff Bailem's statements about immigrants,

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with criminal charges versus immigrants without criminal charges who are detained in our county

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jail.

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How is information about inmates being shared with ICE by the Washington County Sheriff's

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office?

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Other inmates are logged in such a way that the public can view or access that is at the same

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for ICE detention.

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If not, why not?

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If ICE detainees are in our jurisdiction, how can we ensure that their families can confirm

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their presence in our facility. Also, there are some questions about discrepancies between

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booking report numbers. What ICE reports and what has been heard anecdotally from the public

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about ICE detention and ICE holds. In early May during the expanded ICE operation in Northern

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Nevada, although the Sheriff's Office announced publicly that the Jail held 45 people detained

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by ICE, a Homeland Security ICE press release stated that there were 53.

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But the Washington County Sheriff's Office booking reports for the same days did not

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add up to the same amount.

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This raises the question of how those brought into the jail are booked or locked in.

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Is there a separate booking system for these ICE detainees?

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If so, how are these booking, how are those bookings tracked and recorded?

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These discrepancies in data are distrust and doubt in the veracity of the data and the

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stated commitment to transparency. This is why I ask the commissioners today to have

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an agendaized conversation about these questions before they consider approving, Sheriff

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Baylem's Homeland Security Grant approval request. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Patrick Gubbins, followed by Pam Dar.

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I'm sorry, commissioners.

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County manager and county professional staff.

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My name's Patrick Gubbins and I've been a resident of

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Washington for 19 years.

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I've applied for the open space and regional parks commission,

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which I think is a wonderful opportunity,

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and I'd like to give back to our community.

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I'm an outdoor recreation enthusiast.

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I camp, backpack, snow shoe, and ski.

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I also mountain bike ride when I have a bicycle that

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hit doesn't have two flat tires.

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I've also enjoyed a very, very wonderful career as a parks

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and resource manager.

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I've worked at various levels of our government, including

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county state federal and a special parks and recreation district in Colorado.

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So, during my career, I've been responsible for human resources, financial resources, cultural

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and natural resources.

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Services, fire management, public safety programs. I've been on many teams and enjoyed them, and I've been

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on many partnership teams, which I really think partnerships and I really, the way to

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we problem self taken a team approach of self problems. I'm all about that, which is another reason

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why I want to join your commission. I started my career as a partnership with Boulder County Parks

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an open space in Boulder, Colorado.

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And I retired from the National Park Service in 2018

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as a deputy superintendent of Lake Mead National Recreation

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area.

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I've also had a wonderful career with BLM.

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And as I shared with you, I have worked with multiple agencies

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at all levels of our government, county, state, federal,

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and a special recreation district.

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I would like to give back to our community and I want to thank you for your decision and

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considering me for this wonderful opportunity.

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Thank you very much.

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It was a pleasure meeting you and I hope you have a wonderful day.

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Thank you.

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Pam Darr, followed by Mark Prychard,

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good morning, Pam Darr, precinct 64-11, it's almost

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that time of year.

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Come in.

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Anyways, I want to be knocking on doors, so I didn't plan on being here, but something happened

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last Thursday morning that I want to bring to everybody's attention. I think there's a big responsibility sitting right in front of me to address this issue. And this is the homeless.

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There's a lot of work being done and I get it. But we are missing something. We're not preventing the possible attack on individuals with people on the streets.

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We can send a team out to address it. Maybe after the person's hurt or killed. I almost witnessed that Thursday morning at 430.

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Down the street for more I live, what two women were trying to stock their business.

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They were so shook up, they were standing there numb, I'm trying to call sparks PD.

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It was very upsetting.

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I know that people are working hard to address this, but we can't have a monitoring

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around dangerously willing to attack somebody.

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They were very verbally attacked.

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The person walked away and came back and verbally attacked them more.

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So this is something we have to get ahead of it.

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It's dangerous.

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I've heard stories of friends, daughters, and midtown being chased by the homeless.

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No one needs to live like this, and no one wants to be hurt.

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If they're taking a bad chip, they can hurt somebody.

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That's one thing.

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I have three minutes.

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I got two more issues.

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I read with a governor stands with the, he wants to shake the label of a sanctuary state.

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There's a lot of responsibility in front of me on that also.

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What are we going to do to address that?

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We only have so many resources.

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There is such a thing as Clyward and Piven, which we are being stretched in the middle

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class is being stretched. And we can't take much more. People can't afford to buy houses.

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By husband bought a house at the age of 22. I understand it's at the age of 33 now. I also

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understand that you can't buy a house nowadays unless you're in your 30s. How do you start

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a family? And we have more rentals than ownership in the state. We're going in the wrong direction.

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I have two cats in a turtle. I'm worrying about your children and the children of the people in

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I've been around the block a few times.

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I'm gonna, you know, the last portion of it.

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My last thing, these are reviews very much needed.

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I almost got run over by an SUV at Trader Joe's

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because certain countries, you have to look out for the car

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and they don't have to look out for you.

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Imagine walking into Trader Joe's, an SUV passes you by,

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throws it in reverse and backs right into you.

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If that was grandma or a little kid,

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Poppy would have been dead.

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Think God, I do work out.

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I'm pushing back on that SUV screaming at the top of my lung, she yelled at me wondering why I was there.

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So these are the concerns of us trying to be safe out in the community.

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With all this fast growth, with all these people coming in, we're supposed to be a melting pot,

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not different little divisions, a melting pot, where we assimilate and be safe,

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and be happy and enjoy this wonderful place where we live.

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Thank you for your time. Have a good day.

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Thank you. Mark Pritchard, followed by Bo Walker.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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Mark Pritchard for the record.

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I'm an organizer with biggest little action group.

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Thank you for your service as commissioners to this community.

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I'm speaking today in response to the Nevada Current Story

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about the presence of ice in the Washoe County jail

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and the agreement and the grant that the county has applied

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for with respect to making the jail facilities

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more hospitable to ICE.

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You know, when the public sees through videos taken by citizens on the streets, about the behavior.

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And what they're doing on orders from above to the immigrants in our country. I think the general impression

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is a revulsion at the tactics of ICE. I believe they bring a shame upon our country. And that should

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lead us to question wherever we encounter them, including in our county's relationship with them. So I'm asking

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a particular question, which is, I know that every relationship with the federal government

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has an degree of obligatory parts and discretionary parts.

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And I would like the audit of their relationship with our county to include that question.

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How much of what the Sheriff's Department and the jail does now with ICE is discretionary?

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I would like that to be visible on the audit.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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Bo Walker, followed by Frank Wright.

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Hello, commissioners.

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Staff, thank you very much for allowing me to speak today.

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I have applied for the open position on the Parks and Open Space Committee.

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And I just wanted to get in front of you guys and give you a little bit of background about me.

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I was raised here in Northern Nevada in Washington County.

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I'm a graduate of Washington City School District.

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I spent a lot of times on parks and fields growing up.

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kept me out of a lot of trouble.

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I say I came from a non-traditional household

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as kind of a free-range child.

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And I needed those spaces to kind of teach me the lessons

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of life.

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I received a bachelor's degree from the University

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of Nevada in secondary education.

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I received two master's degrees, one

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and athletic administration in coaching

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and one and educational leadership.

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I spent 12 years in the classroom, teaching government civics

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and APUS history.

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Three years is the dean of students working

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in student relations, and currently serve

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as the athletic director at a local high school.

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I have a strong background in youth engagement and work in recreation and athletics, which aligns

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very closely with the role of parks and open spaces in our community.

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I have experienced leading and collaborating with very diverse groups, schools, families

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and community organizations.

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I am skilled in long-term planning, policy implementation and stewardship of our community resources

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I have done throughout my career.

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The first job by Reheld is working for a city of Reno Parks and Rec.

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I was lucky enough to work on the Moana Baseball field, which unfortunately no longer exists,

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but I have some great memories doing that.

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I also worked at the Idaho wild fields and at Monroe Street Gym.

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Again, it gave me a place to kind of get away from my household and experience athletics

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and learn a lot of the lessons I've learned to have taken professional

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and learned on those fields.

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I have a deep lifelong connection to Reno and Washington Park System

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and appreciation for the impact they have on the community, especially on my life.

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I'm the proud father of three daughters, all are very active in sports, which gives me a really

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first-hand perspective on the importance of accessible parks for our community.

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And I'm committed to ensuring equitable access for all of our residents.

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I'm going to have it outdoors, I'm going to enjoy hunting, fishing, and hiking, most of

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which I do in Washow County, Northern Washow County, has some of the most beautiful areas

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in the Western United States, and I love to spend time up there with my family.

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I believe in sustainability and protecting these open spaces for future generations dedicated

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to promoting respect and honor and community service as I've done throughout education

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and in the park system.

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And then I went back and read some of the past meeting logs.

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I see there's a problem in South Reno where I live.

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I live right by White's Creek Park with a place to run your dogs.

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And I've really struggled with that.

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And I've illegally run my dogs and at White's Creek Park, which maybe I shouldn't say here.

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But I understand the importance of needing a space for my active dogs to get off leash and in South

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Reno we really struggle with that. So I was complaining to my wife about it and she said

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why don't you get off your rear end and go do something about it. So here I am. I look forward

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the opportunity to potentially serve you on that committee and thank you so much for your time.

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Thank you. Frank Wright, followed by Lynette Cardinal.

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Good morning. Frank Wright, I'm a resident of Incline Village. I'm here to speak about an

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legal tax fee that is being assessed to all the property owners.

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This fee is greater than some of the property owners at VORM taxes.

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I've talked to your district attorney about this.

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We need help.

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This is an illegal assessment that has no statutory limit.

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The amounts that they're charging this year has put a lot of people in financial harm.

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It's willy-nilly, there's no assessment background for it.

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They don't go use any kind of financial need.

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They just make up a number, whatever they can think they can get.

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They go for it.

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The money doesn't go to anything that helps.

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The people that are living there, it's just horrible. It's something that I think the county needs to really, really get involved in for your benefit.

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I say that you guys are collecting this fee that makes you the getaway driver for a robbery because they are stealing money.

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I went before the if-good board and I asked him, give me one thing that this was providing my property and my family, nothing, not one thing.

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They collected, it's not assessed evenly, it's not distributed among the community evenly.

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One parcel has most of the poor residents in our community, 75 motel or apartment units.

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They have 75 rec fees and they pay over $105,000 in this rec fee for these people who live

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there and they can't even enjoy most of the amenities of this thing supposedly as paying

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for across the street, there's 400 units on one parcel.

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Both of these are on one parcel.

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75 on one, 400 on another one.

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The one with 400 only pays one rec fee.

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How can that be?

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And a system that we have for Edvoir and Taxes

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where things are assessed by value and have a benchmark

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understanding.

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This has no benchmark.

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This is just thrown out there.

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It needs to be addressed if it is under fiscal watch by the State to Board of Taxation, the Committee

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on Local Government Finance, their books are cooked.

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Everything is screwed up up there.

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We need help from the county by collecting this tax, you're a eating and a bedding, this

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collection.

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It's not right.

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There are other people that are looking at this as you're probably well aware of by now.

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And this is not something that's going to have a happy ending.

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You can be ahead of this and get ahead of this and take care of this or you can ignore it and let it continue.

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But it will be taken care of in that couple years. I guarantee it. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Lynette Cardinal followed by Ed Powell.

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Hello, Lynette Cardinal. I'd like to thank you for the opportunity to speak to you this morning.

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I've been a resident of inclined village since 1992 and I've seen it changed in a direction that is

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is really not acceptable to the parcel owners.

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As Frank Wright said, the rect fee has become uncontrollable.

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We are not a cohesive village anymore.

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Since COVID-19 people have moved in that are new to the area.

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They've been propagandized by the, I believe, the board that is in the seats at the moment

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into thinking other than what incline village really is, we were a cohesive village for parcel owners to maintain the equity for all people that live there.

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And now this rectee has been outlandishly applied to people who are there living on a fixed income, raising families, and do not have the opportunity to enjoy all the amenities that they are forced to play.

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And therefore, I feel that it is destructive to the continuity and the vitality of inclined

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village that is supposed to be a loving and caring community.

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The trustees have not taken into consideration that they are in fiscal watch.

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They have added a new building at the beach house for, I believe, 11 between 11 and 12 million

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dollars without public input.

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They have raised the rect fee that is unbelievable about 400% on each parcel owner that has

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has to pay it or they will get a lean on their home.

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I'd like to bring for you what kind of fee would bring a lean on another person's loan that

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is not considered to be a tax.

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It is absolutely abhorrent to the people of incline village.

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We go before the board, they just do not pay attention, they go, aha, aha, aha,

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and actually classify the residents that are few as demonized as the ones that are holding

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back to the community when we were the foundation and the grassroots of that community.

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It is not a cohesive experience anymore, nor a good experience, to live there under that type of tyranny of government, having...

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My name is Ed Powell, modifications to the Washow County Detention Facility Funded by an Ice Related Grant need to continue to be topical over the next several months.

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My current concern is over current ice tactics. I am not sure if these tactics are common in Washow County, but videos from elsewhere in the United States are common.

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These tactics include masked kidnapping with excessive force, often without a judicial warrant and leading to the disappearance of the subject.

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I would like to ask the Washer County Board of Commissioners as our elected representatives to pass on to Sheriff Bailum, another affected official elected official.

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and the Washington-A district attorney also are concerned,

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displeasure, and revulsion, and such tactics.

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Please request a statement from the sheriff as to his department's support,

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or non-support of such tactics here in our county.

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It would be useful to have such a statement sooner,

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rather than later, given the apparent criminality of these tactics.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Joe Blake's plea?

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Madam Chairman, members of the Commission, Joe Blakely, speaking for the

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coalition from Nevada's Wildlife,

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speaking to the wild horse issue today, which is later

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on the agenda.

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I just want to make you aware that we've got a resolution going out to the

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Congressional Proporation Committee to follow the wild horse and burrow program, specific to

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Our county, we support a fencing project for public safety to keep the wild horses in

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Washington County off of the roadways and out of the neighborhood.

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With that said, we understand that it's a band-aid approach and doesn't solve the underlying

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population of overpopulation.

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For instance, the Virginia Range's appropriate management level is 300 to 600 animals, and

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currently at 4,000 fatality controls likely to be brought up, but that's not a solution.

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It doesn't reduce the current overpopulation by one single animal.

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Even if you could do it, it doesn't reduce the population.

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I mean, if you've got 4,000 animals out there and have a couple of more mirrors, how are

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you going to get close enough to dark 2,000 mirrors, how are you going to tell which ones

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I mean, you know, one Bay Horses from another Horses, you know.

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There are 938 species of wild animals that share the ecosystem.

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There are 3189 plants, species out there that deserve to have consideration.

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39 of them are endangered.

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Our habitat is being destroyed because we're ignoring all these other plants and animals

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that deserve recognition over one species that dominates the rest of them.

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If I had 40 dogs in my backyard, I'd probably get a call from animal control.

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If I let my real estate become in fester with rats and have some of the water turned

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off in the rest of the leaking, I'd probably get a condemned.

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That's what's happening to our public lands.

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We need to deal with this.

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Jenny and I did a presentation at NACO last week.

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There are seven counties in the state that have adopted

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resolutions of ecological disaster from these animals.

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The idea that these horses should be wild and free.

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Sounds great on paper, but it makes a bad as a month since.

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It's letting mice and rats run wild and free in your kitchen.

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In closing, please support the fencing for public safety and consider joining the other counties in a resolution of ecological disaster.

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What's your county has the most animals of any one in the state as far as I know?

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Thank you. Jenny Lucia, followed by Ronda Ticer.

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Good morning, Madam Chairman. Other members of the commission.

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I thank you for allowing me to speak on not only item one, but some federal issues as well.

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I've got over 18 years of professional experience regarding range land management.

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and focused mainly on wild horses,

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feral horses, history horses, whatever you want to call them.

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I am speaking on behalf of four NGOs.

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That's the coalition of Nevada's wildlife.

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Coalition of health, Nevada's land, Nevada wildlife,

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federally federation, and range land wildlife,

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wild horses, LLC, in addition to range land scientists here

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at UNR.

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We represent tens of thousands of members of members of this county.

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We absolutely support the continuing fencing project dealing with public safety not only

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for people but for those animals themselves.

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We will work closely with the Department of Act to ensure that that continues to be made.

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Having said that, we also ask that the horses on the state park, park, bird nesting area

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on the East Side of Washow Valley plus the 100 plus horses in your

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Andrews Lane that I passed by this morning right next to 395 and also

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other urban residents and hidden valley, demonic ranch that we talk about

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relocating those animals once that then seen as completed.

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We ask that you also prioritize all of the nearly over, as Joel said,

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There are 2200 species of plants, 39 of them endangered, and also over the 900 species

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of wildlife that are also affected by the gross overpopulation of these stray horses.

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We ask that you also be transparent and working with not only the parametribe, but also

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be a lemon forest service to pay attention to those horse populations that are also increasing

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that people don't even talk about yet.

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Those are in cold spring, Spanish springs, those areas, and actually are now being stated that

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they're part of the Virginia Range, which if you look at the map they're not.

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Finally, we asked Washow County on the federal level to focus on what Joel spoke about,

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or at least have a discussion, there's seven counties here in Nevada that have proclaimed

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an ecological disaster on the federal level due to the gross overpopulation of wild horses.

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Washington County, you guys, I think you understand, this isn't just about the Virginia

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range or even the federal horses you've got the pyramid leg and you've got eight herd

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management areas that are managed by California that those 3800 horses are not even being

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So this is the time to do at or pass that point.

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Thank you again.

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Thank you.

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Ronda Ticer, followed by Doug Flyherty.

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Good morning.

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Today I submit to you the petitions of over 260 inclined village and crystal bay residents.

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Each of these 260 plus signatures represents a life.

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They're not just names on a page.

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They are employees and fathers and mothers and grandparents and retirees.

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The able, the disabled, the aged and others.

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They're all who make up our small village of Lake Tahoe.

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As your constituents today, we are asking for your consideration, and yes, even your compassion.

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We're asking you to see our faces and feel our concerns.

452
00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:28,080
You see, no matter how diligently we create defensible space around our houses,

453
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:34,840
and no matter how thoroughly chief summers and his crew's create defensible space on our public land,

454
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:46,220
The stark reality is that any wildfire that starts in our near incline village of Crystal Bay will force an immediate evacuation.

455
00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:54,300
And all of you have heard the same newscasts we have, and are as informed as we are.

456
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:59,980
There's no reason to think we would fare any better than those in love.

457
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:09,560
We all know sudden evacuations are at best, difficult, and dangerous, and at worst deadly.

458
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:17,520
But what you commissioners may not truly get, is that allowing dozens of more residences to be built,

459
00:40:18,220 --> 00:40:25,940
and hundreds of more residents to reside, along one of our only two evacuation routes,

460
00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:30,420
could very well result in many residents' deaths.

461
00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:33,620
Planners' contention, that these tap amendments,

462
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,380
increasing affordable housing, will contribute to the health

463
00:40:36,380 --> 00:40:38,680
and safety of our residents, is nonsense.

464
00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:42,120
Hundreds of thousands of residents burning,

465
00:40:42,420 --> 00:40:45,740
or suffocating to death, is as much greater health threat

466
00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:48,080
than the poor mental health and physical health

467
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,700
of some residents who can't find affordable housing.

468
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,040
Inclined villages, geography demands special planning.

469
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:01,500
planning, so I asked you on behalf of not just these 200 signatories, but all our residents

470
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:10,360
to please wait for the IVCB evacuation study now in process and do the proper EIS and evacuation

471
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:18,020
timing and analyses. Get the data to realistically assess the likely effects of the tap of

472
00:41:18,020 --> 00:41:20,620
amendments before adopting them.

473
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,080
We implore you to wait for the data.

474
00:41:25,460 --> 00:41:27,000
It's the right thing to do.

475
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,080
And thank you.

476
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,160
Thank you.

477
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,380
Doug Flerty, followed by Lisa O'Sullivan.

478
00:41:47,260 --> 00:41:50,800
Doug Flerty, representing myself as an inclined village resident

479
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,300
and Tahoe Clean Air.org.

480
00:41:54,580 --> 00:41:56,240
I'll just combine the comments.

481
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,120
They're similar.

482
00:41:57,860 --> 00:42:00,120
The proposed development code master plan

483
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,120
amendment findings and desired outcome is listed within the amendments, our speculative,

484
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:13,820
arbitrary and capricious and created in a manner to, you have unsubstantiated,

485
00:42:13,820 --> 00:42:20,820
deference to Warsaw County and TRPA's misleading housing ideology at our highly unlikely

486
00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:26,160
to achieve their stated purpose. Moreover, these amendments are highly controversial and do

487
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,920
not reflect the community's interest as demonstrated by the approximately as of this morning

488
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:38,360
262 citizens' petitions and they're still coming in and we only started this last Thursday.

489
00:42:39,940 --> 00:42:46,220
These petitions represent significant new substantial evidence citing public safety wildfire

490
00:42:46,220 --> 00:42:48,300
evacuation concerns.

491
00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:53,260
No government agency, including the TRPA.

492
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:59,980
Worship County has the right to mandate code amendments upon the Worship Tahoe citizen

493
00:42:59,980 --> 00:43:05,580
rate, or Worship County, which will make it harder for Worship Tahoe residents to safely

494
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:07,540
evacuate during a wildfire.

495
00:43:08,060 --> 00:43:14,340
Based on consistent and substantial public comments, new substantial evidence since the 2021 Tahoe

496
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:19,660
a plan revision including consistent public concerns about traffic congestion and wildfire

497
00:43:19,660 --> 00:43:25,460
evacuation risk within the inclined village towns center and surrounding inclined village

498
00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:31,120
crystal bay neighborhoods and new significant substantial evidence in the form of approximately

499
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:44,320
262 petitions we're talking about to be at our being submitted today in opposition to the

500
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:51,780
the new substantial evidence of the independent like Tahoe, based in wildfire evacuation analysis.

501
00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:58,140
Any reasonable person may conclude that the proposed amendments are likely to exasperate

502
00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:03,400
already unacceptable public barrel evacuation times in and around in line village.

503
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,180
This is currently estimated by Worship County to take six hours.

504
00:44:07,180 --> 00:44:31,640
The Worship County Constrained Railway System compounded by public parallel effrated interceptions around about choke points, as well as dramatic increases in north and east shore and basin visitors within an adjacent to inclined village town center, as well as crystal bay, significantly heightens public safety evacuation risk, this by degrading current public parallel evacuation time.

505
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,800
Thank you. Lisa O'Sullivan, followed by Liz Lord.

506
00:44:45,180 --> 00:44:47,700
And thank you for the opportunity to speak.

507
00:44:48,340 --> 00:44:51,040
I am here to talk about the negative impact

508
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,700
that this fence project, the Nevada Ag fence project,

509
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,280
has brought to our valley.

510
00:44:56,940 --> 00:44:58,140
I live in Steamboat.

511
00:44:58,820 --> 00:44:59,980
And nobody is talking to me.

512
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:26,940
About the added fire danger. The horses have historically been there. They graze, you know, we have very tall, rocky mountains. These horses have done an amazing job over the years, eating down, knee high, flashy fire fuels and obnoxious weeds. The first thing that many of us realized when they put the fences, because they didn't do it on the BLM border that borders the homes.

513
00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:31,180
they ended up putting in three quarters of the way up on this big hill.

514
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:37,660
So that leaves 250 acres of BLM land that no longer gets grazed by these horses.

515
00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:41,580
It also leaves hundreds of private land.

516
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,460
So there was no thought at all to the fire danger that they added.

517
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,140
We have target shooting ranges all up above us.

518
00:45:51,580 --> 00:45:55,700
On June 7, there was a scanner fire that started at one of them.

519
00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:59,900
were just really lucky that it was in a windy day

520
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:03,520
and it was a rocky backdrop, but there's many other sites

521
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,300
that people shoot the big metal targets.

522
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,440
So we are very concerned and we are asking

523
00:46:09,980 --> 00:46:12,400
for help to get a revision to this fence.

524
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,220
We want the horses and to do their job.

525
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,920
And we also think it's really cruel and inhumane

526
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,080
to block them from every water source in our area.

527
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,060
South of the fence they can graze, but they're not going to.

528
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:32,180
If there's no water source anywhere around, I don't see how they're going to block them

529
00:46:32,180 --> 00:46:40,140
from little washow because this BLM fence went across many our UTV roads where people

530
00:46:40,140 --> 00:46:42,900
recreate and they just throw them down.

531
00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:45,540
People are not happy that the fence is there.

532
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:49,640
And they open it, they go through, and they don't get out to put it back up.

533
00:46:49,660 --> 00:46:51,400
So that allows the horses in.

534
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:58,940
But I just think that, you know, so many of us in the Valley are already worried about

535
00:46:58,940 --> 00:47:04,920
fire danger and that this added, you know, this added so much more.

536
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,320
I have 19 acres.

537
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,560
I have taken down fences and I've seen it firsthand.

538
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:14,660
In April, I can't even walk out on my property by August, they've cleared it and I can

539
00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:16,000
actually use my land.

540
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,380
So if they're talking about overpopulation right now, they are in our valley, but

541
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:25,060
as soon as the city fence comes in, they won't be able to be there.

542
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,360
There are actually 62 on-roads road in the pasture, not 100.

543
00:47:32,020 --> 00:47:35,400
And they did an amazing job taking where they're eating down.

544
00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:38,380
Last October, a power line came down in there.

545
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,580
And thank God they ate it down because there could have been a major fire.

546
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,380
It was a very windy day.

547
00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:47,340
And luckily it was just smoldering and the fireman came.

548
00:47:48,140 --> 00:47:48,760
But thank you.

549
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:49,900
Thank you.

550
00:48:05,310 --> 00:48:07,710
Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

551
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:09,330
My name is Liz Lord.

552
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:11,370
I'm a concerns citizen.

553
00:48:11,550 --> 00:48:14,690
I'm here to speak about the wild horse situation in our area.

554
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:21,890
One of my main concerns is the wildfire danger that the horses are eating.

555
00:48:22,130 --> 00:48:25,050
A few of the range which can help mitigate this.

556
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:30,390
My other concern is the fact that we have been star wild horses from their normal water source.

557
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:35,550
I spoke personally with Governor Limbardo a few months ago, and he said they would be

558
00:48:35,550 --> 00:48:38,010
trucking water up to the range for these sources.

559
00:48:38,530 --> 00:48:42,550
As of now, I have not seen one sign of this, I hike up in that area.

560
00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:48,770
The lakes, they say, are they're in available form or dry at this time of year.

561
00:48:49,810 --> 00:48:56,950
If you really love a horse, which a lot of people in here supposedly do, but they have

562
00:48:56,950 --> 00:49:00,270
ever seen a horse die or an animal die of dehydration,

563
00:49:00,490 --> 00:49:02,590
it's a horrible, horrible death.

564
00:49:02,890 --> 00:49:04,770
This is a travesty to these horses.

565
00:49:05,950 --> 00:49:09,430
What happened to Nevada's bills protecting our wild animals,

566
00:49:09,950 --> 00:49:12,870
which should include the horses, have we become California?

567
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:16,050
Have we done, do we not care about our wildlife anymore?

568
00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:19,810
I've heard stories about hunting horses now.

569
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:23,110
People going out and allowing people to go hunt horses.

570
00:49:23,310 --> 00:49:25,130
I hope that's a fallacy.

571
00:49:25,710 --> 00:49:36,670
A bill to fund overpasses to protect people and the wild animals or accidents is being held up in the Senate, I believe I could be wrong about this, but this is what I understand.

572
00:49:39,660 --> 00:49:52,120
Please help our forces. They were here a long time before we were. If you look into the eyes of a horse and you will see their beautiful soul, you would not want to destroy them and the fertility program is working.

573
00:49:52,540 --> 00:49:53,520
Thank you for your time.

574
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,800
Thank you. Penny Brock followed by Richard Miner.

575
00:50:27,730 --> 00:50:39,330
For the record, as you know, Nevada has been investigated by the Department of Justice and some other federal government agencies for 2020 elections.

576
00:50:40,850 --> 00:50:45,870
I believe it will trickle down into Washington County and in this presentation I will show why.

577
00:50:49,110 --> 00:50:56,810
Think about what is already known about local elections in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and West Constant.

578
00:50:56,810 --> 00:51:01,250
And all of the voting manipulation was done on a county and local level.

579
00:51:01,590 --> 00:51:06,870
Maricopa County Arizona was a key focal point in these exact voting issues during

580
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:07,510
the audit.

581
00:51:08,070 --> 00:51:16,370
Now consider when the HISS says exploitation of these dominion voting system vulnerabilities,

582
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:23,710
what require physical access to individual image-caused X devices access to the election

583
00:51:23,710 --> 00:51:31,370
management system or at the ability to modify files when they are uploaded to image cast

584
00:51:31,370 --> 00:51:37,170
x devices. We have all of these in our elections department down the hall. We can check

585
00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:44,230
each of these three points affirmally to know what is known about voting manipulation. Yes,

586
00:51:44,330 --> 00:51:50,930
local election officials had physical access to these devices. Yes, local election officials

587
00:51:50,930 --> 00:51:54,070
had access to the election management system.

588
00:51:54,570 --> 00:51:57,810
And yes, local, our local election officials

589
00:51:57,810 --> 00:52:01,090
have the ability to modify these files all through these

590
00:52:01,090 --> 00:52:04,090
apply to our elections department down the hall.

591
00:52:04,570 --> 00:52:06,930
When you recognize the already alarming efforts

592
00:52:06,930 --> 00:52:10,270
of local election officials to manipulate the outcome,

593
00:52:11,570 --> 00:52:14,570
what the CISA advisory is factually stating

594
00:52:14,570 --> 00:52:18,950
is that the system has been built in vulnerabilities

595
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:26,410
that permit local election officials to modify the voting outcome on electronic machines.

596
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:33,670
That is exactly the claim that it's been made of all the election integrity groups

597
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:37,450
who have been raising the alarms along the around the country.

598
00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:49,870
This notification is affirming the local election officials can indeed manipulate the electronic voting machine outcomes.

599
00:52:49,870 --> 00:52:54,270
How is Nevada Washow County involved in this?

600
00:52:54,570 --> 00:52:58,930
Well, out of this article, which CNN published,

601
00:52:59,370 --> 00:53:02,910
it shows that Washow County, right here.

602
00:53:02,910 --> 00:53:05,190
This is a picture out of Washow County.

603
00:53:05,770 --> 00:53:08,270
A ballot tabulator using Dominion Voting System

604
00:53:08,270 --> 00:53:13,350
has seen as a Washow County voting register gave press,

605
00:53:13,350 --> 00:53:17,150
a press tour of their facility and explain the process

606
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:21,650
ahead of the midterm elections April of 22.

607
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:24,390
Thank you.

608
00:53:24,610 --> 00:53:25,350
Richard Meiner.

609
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,180
Good morning commissioners.

610
00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:44,900
Later today, under agenda item 16,

611
00:53:46,540 --> 00:53:50,400
you will be given an opportunity to vote on approving

612
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,320
or not changes to the Tahoe area plan for

613
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,120
for Washow County,

614
00:53:59,430 --> 00:54:06,750
but in addition to voting yes or no, you have a third choice, and that

615
00:54:06,750 --> 00:54:16,610
would be to table your decision until the evacuation study for which the county has already

616
00:54:16,610 --> 00:54:25,590
received over $170,000 in the donation to run its course.

617
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:30,410
That study is expected to take about a year from now to be completed.

618
00:54:31,210 --> 00:54:44,990
And will be the first really comprehensive publicly supported study of wildfire evacuation

619
00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:54,970
from the Lake Tahoe Basin. To me, and probably most common sense observers, it's a no-brainer,

620
00:54:54,970 --> 00:54:59,890
to table or otherwise postpone your area.

621
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:14,760
Plan revisions until this study can be completed. The lives of hundreds of North Lake Tahoe residents and thousands of visitors could be in your hands.

622
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:23,740
Thank you for thinking seriously about postponing that decision today. Thank you.

623
00:55:23,740 --> 00:55:30,560
Thank you. We have nobody else signed in and chambers. We do have emails to be placed on the record.

624
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:40,960
Thank you. All right. We will now move into item four ACM Slero. Good morning. Item number

625
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,140
four commissioners, county managers and announcements reports and updates to includes boards,

626
00:55:45,460 --> 00:55:49,760
commission updates request for information or topics for future agendas and I do have just a couple

627
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:57,080
for you. As I mentioned earlier on item 3, item 16 will be a virtual public comment available

628
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:03,160
in incline village. If anybody would like to take us up on that. Just as well, a reminder

629
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,640
that the incline village general improvement district general manager will be here on September

630
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:14,740
16 to provide a report to you all. And then the final reminder is that we will have a special

631
00:56:14,740 --> 00:56:20,940
presentation on the state of the county on September 2nd in this chambers. The event is called

632
00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:25,200
wash-out work serving our community and will be a series of videos highlighting key areas

633
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:30,080
of the strategic plan. The meeting is noticed to begin at 11 a.m. which will be immediately following

634
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:37,560
the Board of Fire Commissioners, a meeting allows to excuse me, have public comment and then we'll

635
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:44,720
go into recess for a two o'clock showing of that where all of the commissioners will be in

636
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:50,340
So, again, we will also have ARPA funding recipients out in the lobby.

637
00:56:51,140 --> 00:56:55,400
So, if anybody from the public really wants to understand where the ARPA dollars have gone to help our community,

638
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,000
some of those organizations will be available to provide that information.

639
00:56:59,460 --> 00:57:00,520
So, that's what I have for you today.

640
00:57:00,940 --> 00:57:03,480
Thank you very much, Commissioner Garcia.

641
00:57:04,180 --> 00:57:04,300
Okay.

642
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:05,480
Commissioner Andrea Dreola.

643
00:57:07,420 --> 00:57:08,360
Thank you, Madam Chair.

644
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:19,400
I want to share one of the actually two of the public commenters already shared this, but I am on the

645
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:34,980
NACO board along with Vice Chair Herman, and during the one of the committee's public lands and there was a presentation that was

646
00:57:34,980 --> 00:57:42,600
coalition for Nevada's wild life is considering and asking the 17 counties on those 7 counties

647
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,980
of already signed on to look at a resolution declaring a state of emergency resulting from

648
00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:53,840
noncompliance with the 1971 free roaming wild horse boroughs act is written and amended.

649
00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:02,380
And there are, and I'm happy to provide this to staff, but there are over 120 organizations,

650
00:58:02,380 --> 00:58:08,820
including the seven that were already noted, and I would like to ask that we look into this,

651
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:16,140
and we look at having this agenda is for consideration by the board to adopt this resolution,

652
00:58:17,740 --> 00:58:22,280
and so that's a request, a agenda request.

653
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:30,000
And then I almost feel like I can't go without sharing Christmas and August.

654
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:45,500
So yesterday, as if everyone doesn't know, I will share that the State of Nevada has been chosen by the Forestry Service to have the U.S. Capitol Christmas tree.

655
00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:52,380
There's been a lot of activity including ornaments and each county made a tree skirt and that's been turned in.

656
00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:57,160
But yesterday, the U.S. Department of Agriculture for Service,

657
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,140
along with Nevada Lieutenant Governor Stavros, Anthony,

658
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,540
and the Division of Outdoor Regret Recreation announced

659
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:11,760
a fourth-grader essay contest for Nevada fourth-graders.

660
00:59:12,380 --> 00:59:16,620
The details are available on the Forest Service website

661
00:59:16,620 --> 00:59:22,700
And the due date for this mission is September 15th.

662
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:31,840
The lucky fourth grader who wins the essay contest will be flown to DC and be able to light the Nevada Christmas tree.

663
00:59:32,260 --> 00:59:42,540
This is the first time that Nevada has been chosen in the history since the 1960s of a state being chosen to be represented at the US Capitol during the holidays.

664
00:59:42,540 --> 00:59:49,140
So I want to make sure all fourth graders and their parents as well and schools

665
00:59:49,140 --> 00:59:55,340
I've sent this to all the schools that you could imagine and I'm hoping that we can continue to spread the word

666
00:59:55,340 --> 00:59:59,860
So again Christmas and August. I love it. What an incredible it is

667
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:16,600
It's been amazing. And if you want to see all the activities throughout Nevada, you can go on to the social media site, U.S. Capitol Christmas tree, and you'll see all kinds of different activities of the entire state of Nevada coming together to represent the Silver State.

668
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,600
That's so great. Commissioner Clerk.

669
01:00:20,380 --> 01:00:29,980
Thank you, Madam Chair. First of all, I'll be brief this morning. I just want to thank everyone that comes down to our county commission meetings and offers a public conversation.

670
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:36,320
opinion. It's very important for us to hear what the public is thinking about all the issues.

671
01:00:36,820 --> 01:00:41,720
Sometimes we don't like what we hear, but sometimes we need to hear things from the public.

672
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,040
So thank you for everyone who has made public comment today.

673
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:58,120
Next, I would like to talk about a phone call I got early this morning from a board member of the Senior,

674
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:06,020
board, letting me know about certain seniors are kind of afraid to go into the senior center

675
01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:10,280
of right across the parking lot here. They drive up, they get out of the car, they walk in,

676
01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:17,020
they see some activity that they don't find appealing and leave. So our seniors are being forced

677
01:01:17,020 --> 01:01:23,220
out of here and the allegations are folks from the homeless folks are taking over the senior

678
01:01:23,220 --> 01:01:30,380
center and as we've been reported to many times that a large number of the folks at the senior

679
01:01:30,380 --> 01:01:37,180
center or at the CARES campus are seniors and I'd like the county to explore putting in senior

680
01:01:37,180 --> 01:01:43,000
activities at the CARES campus. So the seniors that are housed there can have activities

681
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:50,240
right there on their campus versus coming around across town to come over here. So again I'd

682
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,320
to ask the county to look into that,

683
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,160
and then lastly, there was an article in one of the

684
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:04,020
local publications, Pecan Press this week, which was supported by a county documents,

685
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:20,220
which I shared with the press about our meeting last week when we donated money to the

686
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:25,220
phone call and threatened all the commissioners and also threatened to run over people that

687
01:02:25,220 --> 01:02:29,760
they saw on motorcycles. I'd like to ask the county to look into that further, both the

688
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:36,080
sheriff's department and the DA's office and find out if they sent us threat electronically,

689
01:02:36,860 --> 01:02:43,100
let's find out who sent that threat and send somebody out from the law enforcement community

690
01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:50,200
and talk to these folks because when somebody makes a threat that they're going to step on the

691
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:50,580
cycle.

692
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:57,020
I think the public needs to be aware and understand that this may or may not happen,

693
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:04,580
but so many times when we hear about acts of violence in the country, people have talked

694
01:03:04,580 --> 01:03:09,720
about it in advance, people have shared what they are going to do, and then later on

695
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,640
they are involved in some type of mass violence situation.

696
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:19,180
So I'd like to have the county take charge of this and find out who this person is and

697
01:03:19,180 --> 01:03:24,980
If I know what their agenda really is, so please, if we can have that looked into.

698
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:26,520
Thank you.

699
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:27,660
Thank you very much.

700
01:03:28,380 --> 01:03:34,360
And I just wanted to point out to members who are concerned about the use of the detention

701
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,620
facility and the county's relationship with ICE.

702
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:45,660
We will be having a presentation by the sheriff on his quarterly report of the detention

703
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:52,140
facilities so that will be September 9th and it will be a presentation so if you want to tune

704
01:03:52,140 --> 01:03:59,880
into that meeting please do and if that is it then I just found out from the clerk that we

705
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:05,760
somehow missed a public commenter from Geralach who has been waiting at the library so I'd like to

706
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:12,200
bring them back for item three and then we will move into our presentations. Thank you very much

707
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:12,900
Madam Clerk.

708
01:04:16,420 --> 01:04:18,800
We have Christie Evans and girl lock.

709
01:04:20,660 --> 01:04:20,960
Hi, everyone.

710
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,600
Can you hear me out in there?

711
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:23,680
Yes, we can.

712
01:04:24,260 --> 01:04:24,460
Awesome.

713
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:28,160
So for the record, Christie Evans, I'm a resident out here in girl lock.

714
01:04:28,340 --> 01:04:30,140
I really appreciate you taking my comment.

715
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,860
I just wanted to join in this morning as you all know, it is burning man time out here.

716
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:44,600
And we have been in touch with our county commission support team about an agenda item for

717
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:50,760
upcoming citizens advisory board meeting and I just want to make the commissioners aware

718
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:56,780
because we're going to be requesting some additional support in the future from the county out

719
01:04:56,780 --> 01:04:59,680
here specifically in circumstances where

720
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:10,580
Whether like rain closes the play at access in the town of Gerlock is under pretty stressed situations with people around here.

721
01:05:10,980 --> 01:05:16,060
And the main issues that we are addressing is traffic management and sanitation.

722
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:24,960
We simply don't have enough restrooms out here to handle the influx of hundreds and possibly thousands of people who are stuck.

723
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,980
So, we understand, and I just want to say for the record, I'm not against burning

724
01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:33,040
man, it's a very important economic driver in our community.

725
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:38,540
But what we are going to be looking to is additional support from the county when these

726
01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:42,240
often predictable situations arrive like rain.

727
01:05:42,820 --> 01:05:47,220
So I just want to make you all aware, and hopefully at least Commissioner Herman and maybe

728
01:05:47,220 --> 01:05:52,200
some others of you can attend our cab meeting on September 11th, because we definitely want

729
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,200
to get more of your support in the future.

730
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,060
And that's all I had.

731
01:05:55,340 --> 01:05:57,080
Thank you.

732
01:05:57,180 --> 01:05:58,280
Thank you, Ms. Evans.

733
01:05:59,240 --> 01:05:59,980
Thank you, Madam Clerk.

734
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,280
I mean, I had meant to say we're going into our proclamation

735
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,480
and then our presentation.

736
01:06:05,900 --> 01:06:09,020
So we'll now move into item five for proclamation.

737
01:06:09,220 --> 01:06:11,120
This is five A1, Mr. Slayer.

738
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,560
Item five A1 is a proclamation to proclaim

739
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,820
the month of August as the emergency management

740
01:06:17,820 --> 01:06:18,800
awareness month.

741
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,360
Looks like commissioner Garcia will get on and read the proclamation.

742
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,880
and we have the team from emergency management here

743
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,520
are small but mighty team to accept that.

744
01:06:32,420 --> 01:06:34,520
Thank you for being here today.

745
01:06:38,300 --> 01:06:39,620
Whereas, Washow County has committed

746
01:06:39,620 --> 01:06:41,660
to the safety security and resilience

747
01:06:41,660 --> 01:06:43,660
of his residents, businesses, and visitors,

748
01:06:44,660 --> 01:06:46,160
and whereas emergencies and disasters

749
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,180
whether natural technological or human cause

750
01:06:49,180 --> 01:06:52,380
can strike at any time requiring coordinated preparedness,

751
01:06:52,740 --> 01:06:54,820
response recovery and mitigation efforts.

752
01:06:55,420 --> 01:06:57,680
And whereas the Washow County Emergency Management

753
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,160
and Homeland Security Program in collaboration with local, state, tribal, and federal partners,

754
01:07:02,740 --> 01:07:07,800
please, a vital role in planning for and responding to emergencies that impact our community.

755
01:07:08,460 --> 01:07:13,880
And whereas emergency management professionals work tirelessly to build community resilience,

756
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,180
educate the public and ensure that critical infrastructure and essential services are protected

757
01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:23,340
and restored quickly following a disaster. And whereas public awareness, individual preparedness,

758
01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:27,520
and community engagement are essential components of a strong emergency management system.

759
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:33,960
And finally, whereas recognizing August as emergency management awareness month provides

760
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,580
an opportunity to highlight the importance of preparedness, honor the work of those in emergency

761
01:07:38,580 --> 01:07:43,300
management, and encourage all residents to take proactive steps to protect themselves, their families

762
01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:44,080
and their neighborhoods.

763
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,480
So on behalf of the Washingtonie Board of County Commissioners, we hear by proclaim the

764
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,560
month of August as emergency management awareness month.

765
01:07:51,980 --> 01:07:52,520
Absolutely.

766
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:59,540
Thank you for your great work and we'd love to hear from you if you have anything to say

767
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,080
All right, thank you county commissioners

768
01:08:03,740 --> 01:08:13,360
Emergency management is one of those professions that is often behind the scenes, but we just appreciate the recognition to share awareness about emergency management

769
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:19,600
So just thank you so much and your name for the record. I'm sorry for the record just got them folks. Thank you

770
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:22,340
Well, thank you so much

771
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,800
Do you want to say anything else?

772
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:25,080
Okay.

773
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:26,320
All right.

774
01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:26,800
Wonderful.

775
01:08:27,020 --> 01:08:30,640
Thank you so much for all you do and be prepared.

776
01:08:30,820 --> 01:08:31,860
Make a plan, right?

777
01:08:32,660 --> 01:08:33,100
Okay.

778
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:33,960
Yeah.

779
01:08:34,180 --> 01:08:35,060
Stay informed.

780
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,020
Thank you, team.

781
01:08:37,900 --> 01:08:38,200
Okay.

782
01:08:38,620 --> 01:08:41,060
We will now move into our presentations.

783
01:08:42,820 --> 01:08:43,400
Excuse me.

784
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,280
Proclamations.

785
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,520
We need to make a motion on that.

786
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,660
Commissioner Garcia was that in the form of a motion.

787
01:08:50,980 --> 01:08:51,940
And I'm looking for a second.

788
01:08:51,940 --> 01:08:53,500
I'd like to thank you, Commissioner Andrew.

789
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Madam Clerk is there any public comment on that item.

790
01:08:56,620 --> 01:08:57,200
There is none.

791
01:08:57,620 --> 01:08:59,220
Okay, we have a motion and a second.

792
01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:01,240
All those in favor, please say aye.

793
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:01,700
Aye.

794
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,100
Any opposed, please say nay.

795
01:09:04,780 --> 01:09:06,160
And that motion passes unanimously.

796
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,360
Thank you very much.

797
01:09:07,480 --> 01:09:10,400
Now we'll move into six A1, Mr. Slayer.

798
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,520
All right, item six A1 is a presentation

799
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,060
and a possible discussion with the Washoe County

800
01:09:15,060 --> 01:09:16,320
and Cessor, Mr. Chris Sermon.

801
01:09:16,820 --> 01:09:17,460
So, do you know what I mean?

802
01:09:17,580 --> 01:09:18,020
Welcome.

803
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,560
We've been looking forward to this presentation.

804
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,760
Good morning, yeah, okay.

805
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,440
Chair Hill, commissioners, staff, good morning,

806
01:09:27,620 --> 01:09:29,920
yes, wash accounting, assessor Chris Sarmann.

807
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,540
Happy to be here today, so thank you for the opportunity.

808
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:34,940
I certainly think as an elected official

809
01:09:34,940 --> 01:09:37,240
that it's important that we can present to you

810
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,900
the state of our office and to the public as well.

811
01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:43,760
I think with ongoing discussions of expenses revenues,

812
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,440
ultimately budgets, that we have a small discussion

813
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,120
on the dynamics of property tax.

814
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,400
So that's what we're here to do today as we move forward.

815
01:09:52,620 --> 01:09:56,720
So as you know, our office is foundational for the funding

816
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,720
of essential services.

817
01:09:58,860 --> 01:09:59,720
So we'll start there.

818
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:11,560
The assessors office is essential, right? Washington County was established in 1861. The Washington County assessors office, 1861. Before we were a state, our office was created.

819
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:26,760
The Nevada Constitution adopted in 1864. Of course, we're article 10 within that constitution. So again, being defined by those provisions of Nevada law, we believe, you know, we are an essential service that was enacted to support essential services.

820
01:10:27,260 --> 01:10:30,740
We know that 52 percent of the revenue from the General Fund.

821
01:10:30,740 --> 01:10:32,140
It stems from our office.

822
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:40,960
Because of those interest, we have, we're involved across the state, right?

823
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,400
Not just with our county, but because we're defined by statute, because we're essential.

824
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,640
We're working not just within the county or municipalities, but across the state,

825
01:10:48,780 --> 01:10:49,900
Department of Taxation.

826
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,340
We're working with the Tax Commission, of course, legislation.

827
01:10:55,020 --> 01:10:59,440
As we look at legislation, let's look at what we are bound to do by statute.

828
01:11:03,230 --> 01:11:06,290
If you guys want to go through our book, this is our Bible.

829
01:11:06,490 --> 01:11:09,370
I know I only have 10 minutes, so we'll get through one page if you want to do that.

830
01:11:10,190 --> 01:11:12,970
But it's big and so let's just summarize that for you.

831
01:11:14,050 --> 01:11:19,710
Our deities to discover list and value all property that's objective taxation unless it's

832
01:11:19,710 --> 01:11:22,270
otherwise exempt and we can go through some of those exemptions hopefully.

833
01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:26,990
We are to provide for a just valuation with the uniform and equal rate of assessment.

834
01:11:27,770 --> 01:11:29,030
We want to be fair and equitable.

835
01:11:30,490 --> 01:11:34,310
So, stemming from that mission is our, that's, that's story, duty is our mission.

836
01:11:34,930 --> 01:11:38,750
We want to efficiently produce the managed fair and equitable values that are built upon

837
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:42,430
accurate property records by an impartial transparent and courteous staff.

838
01:11:42,530 --> 01:11:45,270
A lot of awesome and important words within that mission.

839
01:11:45,890 --> 01:11:48,690
One of the, I think some of the best words there are courteous staff.

840
01:11:48,770 --> 01:11:51,130
We have an amazing staff that does a lot of things.

841
01:11:51,130 --> 01:11:54,390
So let's talk about that.

842
01:11:55,470 --> 01:11:57,650
As we meet that mission, as we meet that duty,

843
01:11:57,770 --> 01:11:59,750
as our staff performs the work that they're doing,

844
01:12:00,370 --> 01:12:03,450
we have some really, some big numbers here, right?

845
01:12:03,450 --> 01:12:08,410
So we have 192,000 parcels in which we are performing

846
01:12:08,410 --> 01:12:11,590
the discovery listing valuation process upon,

847
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:14,350
as a result of doing that.

848
01:12:14,610 --> 01:12:18,310
We are producing and managing maintaining an asset base

849
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:20,030
of about $95 billion.

850
01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:27,830
It's a big value. It's taxable value. This year we threw our re-a-paisal process. We put on about

851
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:32,910
$1.7 billion. That's just through the market variables that exist in a

852
01:12:32,910 --> 01:12:37,590
praisal. Another $1.8 billion that was through our discovery process, whether

853
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:41,270
that was through permits, whether that was through our error review. In total,

854
01:12:41,490 --> 01:12:47,350
it's about $3.5 billion that we added to the role as a new taxable value. It's a big number.

855
01:12:47,930 --> 01:12:53,850
jump it into our personal property accounts or business accounts. We have about 30,000 of those and that doesn't really fluctuate a whole lot

856
01:12:53,850 --> 01:12:55,730
year over year, which is kind of interesting

857
01:12:55,730 --> 01:13:01,590
but overall it's about $5 billion as well. The $1.9 billion that you see that that's a little

858
01:13:02,430 --> 01:13:10,350
deceptive, a business's come, businesses go, new assets are rolled and so it does represent the amount of work that our staff is doing but

859
01:13:10,350 --> 01:13:13,870
it's not necessarily your over year that you're seeing that additional value.

860
01:13:15,070 --> 01:13:16,970
So, what does value mean in terms of revenue?

861
01:13:17,170 --> 01:13:17,830
Let's look at that.

862
01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:25,230
So, the treasure billed about $811 million this year that stem from property tax.

863
01:13:25,690 --> 01:13:29,130
This year, when we looked at that 1.7, and that 1.8, that 3.5 overall,

864
01:13:29,210 --> 01:13:33,330
billion resulted in about $54 million of new taxes added.

865
01:13:35,210 --> 01:13:38,230
That's number, of course, doesn't represent it of the

866
01:13:38,230 --> 01:13:39,550
pavement set up in this year.

867
01:13:39,630 --> 01:13:40,930
The exemptions set up in this year.

868
01:13:41,150 --> 01:13:42,690
And those are some big numbers as well, right?

869
01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:46,350
We've got about $244 million that's been abated.

870
01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:50,690
We have about $128 million that's been exempted.

871
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:52,550
We'll go through that hopefully.

872
01:13:54,970 --> 01:13:57,470
So, in arriving at those numbers, how are we doing that?

873
01:13:58,030 --> 01:14:00,250
Well, when we talked about that appraisal process,

874
01:14:00,510 --> 01:14:02,350
when we talked about those market values,

875
01:14:02,890 --> 01:14:05,170
we're reappraising every year on an annual basis,

876
01:14:05,690 --> 01:14:06,870
the $192,000.

877
01:14:07,490 --> 01:14:08,970
That's where that's coming from.

878
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:11,130
When we're looking at that new value,

879
01:14:11,130 --> 01:14:14,130
We're looking at new processes that were created about 1700.

880
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:22,210
We evaluated 24,000 permits, 23,000 parcels records that we looked at through our review process.

881
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:28,130
We did audits, 260 of those resulted in big numbers as well.

882
01:14:29,070 --> 01:14:34,570
And so as we're doing that, we defined a lot of what we do is in the success of doing that,

883
01:14:34,570 --> 01:14:42,550
through our appeals, and if you look at 139 appeals across 180,000 parcels, across 30,000

884
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:50,410
accounts, it's a 0.07% we're doing a fantastic job, we believe. So it's something to be proud

885
01:14:50,410 --> 01:14:55,730
of for our office. Some other big numbers, the 25,000 transfers that were processed, that's

886
01:14:55,730 --> 01:14:59,310
sales transfers, right? So we, our staff looks at the ownership.

887
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,060
Legal descriptions make sure that that's all accurate. It's not the recorder, but our office that's doing that.

888
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:09,260
And then our presalt team is looking at what the market value of that is through those cells.

889
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:17,200
800,000 visits to our website. That's a big, big number of people love our website everywhere I go, everywhere I talk to, they love the website, right?

890
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:20,080
We get a lot of hits on that.

891
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:26,220
At the big number, 255,000 mailings, we all know how expensive mailing is, are right now.

892
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,080
There's a way to eliminate that, let me know.

893
01:15:31,420 --> 01:15:32,500
We can talk through it.

894
01:15:32,780 --> 01:15:37,160
All that work is being done by how many people, 63 full-time employees of our office.

895
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,240
That's down from 85, which is prior to the recession.

896
01:15:41,620 --> 01:15:43,520
59 employees in 2012.

897
01:15:43,740 --> 01:15:48,520
And so we're doing a lot of work with relatively small amount of full-time employees.

898
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,840
But we're proud of that.

899
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,420
At the top of our org chart, we put the public first, we work for them.

900
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,380
Of course, coming off to that, something from isn't about a law.

901
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,040
We're administrators of that law.

902
01:16:01,380 --> 01:16:04,580
I'm an elected official who is a ministry of that law.

903
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,480
Following down through that chain of our org chart,

904
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,040
there are organizations we've divided that into two sections.

905
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,660
It's really kind of defined here for us and statute.

906
01:16:14,300 --> 01:16:16,160
We have our appraisal sections,

907
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:21,980
and then we have our support services that come from it whether it's mapping and then of course

908
01:16:21,980 --> 01:16:23,800
exemptions of baby and so kinds of things.

909
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,860
And we have our own tech team, our sister tech team, that's our department programming

910
01:16:28,860 --> 01:16:31,380
costing, they do a lot for us as well.

911
01:16:34,180 --> 01:16:41,160
What's it cost for that staff, our budget's 9.4, 9.5 million dollars, it's interesting in

912
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:41,680
our office.

913
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:46,500
I've heard that you guys have the discussions about 80% kind of being the number of labor

914
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:52,620
cost and our office is about 91%. So, 9% of it is left for, you know, paper, pencils, whatever

915
01:16:52,620 --> 01:16:57,240
dust, everything computers, right? Well, we have some tech fund for that, but ultimately,

916
01:16:57,660 --> 01:17:00,840
we're at 91% of our total cost is tied to labor.

917
01:17:04,190 --> 01:17:06,630
What's it all mean? From a different

918
01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:12,190
lens of, I guess, business model, right? We know what our investment is. We know that our

919
01:17:12,190 --> 01:17:18,110
budget is about $9.46 million. We know what the benefit is. We put $54 million on to the

920
01:17:18,110 --> 01:17:23,630
role as year-to-year new taxes, I want to point out that that is a human effect, too, right?

921
01:17:24,050 --> 01:17:27,530
Dictionary, that's going to be 108 million, and it's built and built and built.

922
01:17:28,670 --> 01:17:34,630
So when we look at that ROI for our office as a whole, it's about 4% and it's a nice number.

923
01:17:38,540 --> 01:17:43,340
We're still doing more or less, obviously that's the direction we've been doing since I put

924
01:17:43,340 --> 01:17:48,880
up there established in 2012 because we really have, you know, when back to the recession

925
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,880
And then what we had to do when we've done to come forward with that is a lot.

926
01:17:52,620 --> 01:17:54,860
This year, we've restructured our office a little bit.

927
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,180
We've had a lot of retirements.

928
01:17:56,820 --> 01:17:58,720
A lot of institutional knowledge has been lost.

929
01:17:59,260 --> 01:18:01,660
So we've been able to fulfill those positions with some really

930
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,860
calls by people's knowledgeable skill sets.

931
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:06,340
We're doing a lot of cross trading.

932
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,480
And obviously with technology that advances, we're still trying to do a lot of training.

933
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,600
And we might still see some of those reclassifications going forward as well.

934
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:21,880
The technological developing programming, I just want to point out that you guys are aware that

935
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:26,500
our tech services team, well, we had won the National Award or took there or something

936
01:18:26,500 --> 01:18:34,260
like that for the digital service, a lot of that we believe, apart of that anyways,

937
01:18:34,380 --> 01:18:38,920
it comes from our team, we built, we're looking at AI, we're doing some really cool things

938
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:43,780
with AI, we're streamlining processes, we're automating, and we got a lot of work to do

939
01:18:43,780 --> 01:18:50,220
that. And it's some pretty exciting stuff as we move forward. Ultimately it's automation

940
01:18:50,220 --> 01:18:55,340
right we're trying to get to that. And it doesn't take away from the duties of our office

941
01:18:56,660 --> 01:19:04,420
or necessarily eliminate, but it does kind of change I think the skill sets. So more to

942
01:19:04,420 --> 01:19:10,720
come on that as we as we go. Something I think is really cool because we have to. We built

943
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:16,040
some internal ways on teams, so that are, you know, for example, we have a technology

944
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:24,240
liaison team, that's not necessarily their title, but allowing our assessor tech programmers

945
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:30,360
to actually program, we have, we utilize certain people in our office that are tech savvy to be able

946
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,820
to help people that computers and phones that sort of thing, same thing with communication, right,

947
01:19:35,260 --> 01:19:39,780
as things come down from other departments whether it's language accessibility, something like

948
01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:43,500
that we have built this communication liaison team to kind of help with that.

949
01:19:45,620 --> 01:19:48,740
So, trying to build relationships always, I guess.

950
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:50,140
I'm Chris Armin.

951
01:19:51,260 --> 01:19:52,480
Doing more of the lessons going forward.

952
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,620
We're still trying to build out an appraisal team.

953
01:19:56,820 --> 01:19:59,220
We're trying to build an internal audit team.

954
01:19:59,620 --> 01:19:59,960
We think the other-

955
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,600
There's actually some really good ROI with that. I mean, you've already seen what it looks like as an office as a whole.

956
01:20:06,340 --> 01:20:12,100
So, anything that we're requesting, I think, really, we could look at that and say, okay, what does that look like in terms of revenue?

957
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:22,180
We don't want, obviously, we need to stay within the realm of our statutes, and we still need to remain fair and equitable, but there are still some opportunities I think that exist.

958
01:20:23,860 --> 01:20:27,660
We're still going to be developing deploying new technologies that put up here.

959
01:20:28,780 --> 01:20:30,420
It's expensive, right?

960
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,100
I mean, we can't get away from the fact that technology is expensive.

961
01:20:33,860 --> 01:20:38,240
And I just want to point out, I've always said, and I'm going to continue to say, I think

962
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,500
that for every convenience, sometimes there's an equal and opposite inconvenience, right?

963
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,220
And technology sometimes does that.

964
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:47,080
Sometimes it's open up to this window or you've got to have more training or whatever it might

965
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:47,340
be.

966
01:20:47,480 --> 01:20:51,540
Technology is really cool, but in a lot of cases, it creates inconvenience too.

967
01:20:51,540 --> 01:21:03,160
So just to think about legislative changes, I just want to point out AGR1, I mean these are these are the types of things that can really impact our office from efficiencies are new laws, right?

968
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:16,160
And this year every year their legislations in place we're looking at maybe watching 30, 30 bills, maybe it's a confidentiality bill, maybe it's a senior exemption bill, maybe it's something.

969
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:23,440
This year we had HDR1, which is a reset of depreciation, I know a lot of people support that from that look from our office.

970
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:27,060
There has a lot of questions and concerns, especially with deficiencies.

971
01:21:28,420 --> 01:21:29,740
Just because it becomes more complex.

972
01:21:30,740 --> 01:21:36,060
But AB3-77 is one that did pass, and I want to point this one out.

973
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,700
This one is really cool.

974
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:45,460
Ultimately, we have a famous in our office that people can apply for a 3% primary tax cap on their residence.

975
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,840
at the stands and stats you, they need to apply for that.

976
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,900
So a lot of times we go by a house,

977
01:21:52,620 --> 01:21:54,580
they go through the whole closing process,

978
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:59,200
they go through title, they get a piece of mail from our office,

979
01:21:59,300 --> 01:22:00,560
they throw it away, they don't look at it,

980
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:01,980
and then 10 years later they say, wait a minute,

981
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:03,260
hey, I'm supposed to have to count.

982
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,260
So what AB 377 does is it's removed that burden

983
01:22:07,260 --> 01:22:10,400
from that taxpayer, and now we're putting

984
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:11,860
out on the declaration of value.

985
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:13,780
So now they're going to be sitting there,

986
01:22:13,780 --> 01:22:18,540
closing, they can actually fill that form out on that declaration of value, we don't have

987
01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:23,640
a record of that, and it saves us from having to send out 20,000 mailers, which saves us

988
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:29,580
money, right? So it's a win, win, win for everybody, and I think there's all sorts of different

989
01:22:29,580 --> 01:22:33,620
ideas that could still apply in that fashion. So just wanted to point that out, I think that was

990
01:22:33,620 --> 01:22:40,820
a really cool one, where we got, I don't know where I'm out in time, but if you take a ways in the

991
01:22:40,820 --> 01:22:42,320
Of course, again, we're essential.

992
01:22:42,780 --> 01:22:45,400
I think investments will improve returns.

993
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,360
We've always been physically responsible.

994
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,400
We're doing more with less, changes the only constant.

995
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:51,900
And as we work through these changes,

996
01:22:52,500 --> 01:22:55,040
we just ask for your support when we come in front of you.

997
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,260
She goes, I want to talk about abatement exemptions.

998
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,640
I've kind of outlined that here.

999
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:03,700
There's all sorts of different kinds of abatements.

1000
01:23:03,740 --> 01:23:06,000
Don't be confused by just the tax cap.

1001
01:23:06,020 --> 01:23:07,120
That's just one abatement.

1002
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:10,300
There's other abatements for energy and lead abatement,

1003
01:23:10,460 --> 01:23:11,380
economic abatements.

1004
01:23:11,380 --> 01:23:13,200
It's the same thing with the exemptions.

1005
01:23:14,260 --> 01:23:19,820
You have some personal exemptions, whether you're a veteran, blind, or surviving spouse, government

1006
01:23:19,820 --> 01:23:24,440
exemptions, of course, airports one, though, that we should probably talk about at some

1007
01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:28,720
point in time whether it's the city of Reno or us or somebody, but when you're looking

1008
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:33,920
at the airport land, it's its own taxing authority by statute, and they're not actually

1009
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:39,120
taxing the buildings that exist there, whether it's the FedEx building or something

1010
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,020
that nature, right?

1011
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,920
I think that maybe there's an escaping attack station,

1012
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:43,820
that could be looked at.

1013
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,480
I mean, they're at least in the land, of course.

1014
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:46,940
But just certain things like that,

1015
01:23:46,940 --> 01:23:48,560
and I don't want to go into too much detail.

1016
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,020
But, in the West, there's non-profits

1017
01:23:52,460 --> 01:23:54,280
and economic exemptions as well.

1018
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:55,860
So that's it.

1019
01:23:55,860 --> 01:23:56,680
Thank you.

1020
01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:58,880
Any questions?

1021
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,000
That was a great presentation

1022
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,180
and your office seems fascinating.

1023
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,760
You do a lot of history and planning and development

1024
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:12,600
and investigation, and you've got people out in the field, it seems really interesting.

1025
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,700
And I have a few questions, but I want Commissioner Clark to start because he used to be in your shoes,

1026
01:24:17,780 --> 01:24:20,900
and I know this is a passion of his, so Commissioner Clark.

1027
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:26,500
Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you for your presentation. It's a long overdue of my opinion.

1028
01:24:26,500 --> 01:24:33,600
And I think a lot of folks don't really realize what is taking place in that department of years.

1029
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:48,380
You know, we've got seven elected positions here in the county, county-wide positions, the district attorney, the sheriff, the public administrator, the recorder, obviously the assessor, the treasurer of the clerk.

1030
01:24:48,860 --> 01:24:53,740
I mean, you could go through life if you're real lucky and not have any interaction with the sheriff.

1031
01:24:54,220 --> 01:24:59,980
And not have any interaction with the DEA and not have any interaction with the recorder or maybe...

1032
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:12,760
In the clerk, but everybody, and I mean everybody in this county has some interaction with the assessor's office, and folks that don't even live in this county have interaction with the assessor's office.

1033
01:25:13,140 --> 01:25:26,820
If somebody gets in their car today and drives from Chicago and makes it out to Washow County and stops and has a flat tire and gets their tire fix or stops and buys a meal or stays overnight in a hotel.

1034
01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:35,640
All of those folks are having an interaction with personal property and or real property, landlords, tenants,

1035
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,780
everybody, business owners, people who go into store and buy something.

1036
01:25:41,540 --> 01:25:49,680
All of those personal property, the store fixtures, the tanning booths, the pizza ovens, the forks, the shot glasses,

1037
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:56,960
the flat screen TVs, the bed spreads, the pillows, every single thing in this county is subject

1038
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:57,780
to taxation.

1039
01:25:58,580 --> 01:26:03,360
You know, it rolls off the ton real fast when you say it, but if you really dissect what

1040
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:12,820
you said here, we're here to discover, list and discover, make a list of and value all property

1041
01:26:12,820 --> 01:26:18,560
that is subject to taxation, unless exempt, and that's probably this building would be a good

1042
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:23,900
sample of that and government and schools and police department and sheriff's department.

1043
01:26:24,220 --> 01:26:28,640
There are things that are exempt, but everything else, people don't realize forks and

1044
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:33,800
knives and everything that you use in a restaurant is subject to taxation.

1045
01:26:34,660 --> 01:26:35,060
Everything.

1046
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:39,360
And that casket's passed along to the consumer somehow or another.

1047
01:26:39,940 --> 01:26:42,880
And so that's what I mean by everybody's connected with this.

1048
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:50,120
Next year department values all of this and it ends up, you know, once it gets distilled

1049
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:56,240
and processed and worked through the systems, through the treasure's office, you're responsible

1050
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:01,580
for 52% of everything that the county is able to pay for.

1051
01:27:02,980 --> 01:27:10,320
And it's important to note, and this presentation you talked about, the added value, I keep

1052
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,300
I'm harping about that. I'm hearing people look at me like I'm making this up, but if you look at this,

1053
01:27:15,500 --> 01:27:22,720
the numbers that you bring in with new construction and properties that are permitted,

1054
01:27:23,780 --> 01:27:30,220
and properties that may be somehow another, something escape taxation, maybe they put it in a new fence,

1055
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:36,820
maybe they put it in, maybe they drilled a well, things you can't even see from with the naked eye from above ground,

1056
01:27:36,820 --> 01:27:41,880
You're still involved because it's an improvement to the property, the number of properties,

1057
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,100
and how you're able to manage all these properties for about $50 a piece.

1058
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:52,780
We talked the other day about how you had time and time again, big corporations come into

1059
01:27:52,780 --> 01:27:57,740
this very chamber and to the board of equalization and trying to get their values reduced.

1060
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:04,600
And sooner or later, you need to get an outside company to come in and do an appraisal, so

1061
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,160
It isn't just you versus the big corporation.

1062
01:28:07,980 --> 01:28:10,180
You told me about Walmart getting one of their,

1063
01:28:10,180 --> 01:28:12,240
just one of their buildings of praise folks,

1064
01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:14,380
costs $30,000.

1065
01:28:15,180 --> 01:28:15,740
Is that correct?

1066
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:16,480
Is that right, number?

1067
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:17,660
Yeah, correct.

1068
01:28:18,980 --> 01:28:21,420
Spanned upon that, or yeah, there's $30,000,

1069
01:28:21,780 --> 01:28:25,380
so Walmart is everybody's familiar with Walmart.

1070
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,840
They've appealed their values for the last 10 years.

1071
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:31,360
And we've had a lot of success

1072
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,920
upholding our values at the state and the county level

1073
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:40,960
for that. This last year had at state, those values were reduced and right. So we had to look

1074
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:46,160
at it from a standpoint of, okay, now this has been established as a big box retail type

1075
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:51,160
building. There's value being lost out of revenue, right? And so from a fair and equitable

1076
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,780
ability standpoint, we had to make that stand. So we got that vehicle done. Had we not

1077
01:28:55,780 --> 01:29:00,680
done that, we would have seen the Costco's, the Home Depot's, all those values would

1078
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,980
came down, which is a cost to the counties.

1079
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,140
So we hired outside consulted to make this point,

1080
01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:09,180
and as a $30,000 bill, right?

1081
01:29:09,480 --> 01:29:10,880
So when you look at the work we're dealing,

1082
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,720
we're not charging $30,000 a property,

1083
01:29:14,820 --> 01:29:15,900
if that's where you're going out with that.

1084
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:20,980
And I wanted to public to understand that for $59 or $52,

1085
01:29:21,460 --> 01:29:23,820
whatever shows on your side, we need to divide your budget

1086
01:29:23,820 --> 01:29:29,220
over the vast number of properties that you're in charge

1087
01:29:29,220 --> 01:29:35,860
of praising, I mean, just a residential appraisal these days, or we'll put $1,000, and so

1088
01:29:35,860 --> 01:29:45,860
if you had to reappraise all of the 192,380 parcels, I mean, that's a serious, that's billions

1089
01:29:45,860 --> 01:29:51,220
of dollars just to have the data that you have at your fingertips, and to be able to do

1090
01:29:51,220 --> 01:29:59,800
with the staff that is less than before the COVID and less than before the great economic.

1091
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,840
Turnedown, and yet the size of the percentage is grown by what's the percentage of the growth

1092
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,840
here in the last seven or eight years, 10 years here.

1093
01:30:11,020 --> 01:30:16,980
Well, I could tell you that from the asset, we're looking at 95 billion. I know that back in 2012,

1094
01:30:17,380 --> 01:30:24,860
now economic components tied to that, but that was about 50 billion. So we've doubled the asset base over

1095
01:30:24,860 --> 01:30:26,920
over the last, basically, 10-plus years.

1096
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,240
So double the workload.

1097
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,720
Yeah, double the amount of valuation, probably.

1098
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,260
And with the same amount of folks

1099
01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:42,740
and so I'm trying to appealing to my fellow commissioners

1100
01:30:42,740 --> 01:30:46,300
and to the other folks at the budget of departments here,

1101
01:30:46,540 --> 01:30:48,800
when you need an extra two or three people

1102
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,300
to keep everything running smoothly,

1103
01:30:51,860 --> 01:30:54,020
this isn't just building an empire.

1104
01:30:54,020 --> 01:30:59,040
this is something that is needed, the workload, I mean, there's a point in time where people

1105
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:04,240
get demoralized if they have to work too much, and you need to have staff that can fill

1106
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:04,560
in.

1107
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:10,360
And the return on investment, their paycheck versus what they bring in, is Bill, hundreds

1108
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:14,080
of millions of dollars if you have the extra couple of folks.

1109
01:31:14,260 --> 01:31:19,940
I'm trying to help you get ready for the budget season with that, but you're doing a great

1110
01:31:19,940 --> 01:31:20,340
job.

1111
01:31:20,340 --> 01:31:26,280
And I think the public, and everybody in the county and everybody who benefits from anything

1112
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:30,240
that the county does should look at the foundational basis of it.

1113
01:31:30,420 --> 01:31:36,980
One of the original offices created, when this county was created, was the sheriff, the

1114
01:31:36,980 --> 01:31:37,940
assessor.

1115
01:31:38,220 --> 01:31:45,200
And when we was the other one, those two start to treasure the treasure, the assessor,

1116
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:50,320
and

1117
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,820
for the county to have a good health.

1118
01:31:54,180 --> 01:32:00,580
So I appreciate the good work you're doing and this report should be available to everybody

1119
01:32:00,580 --> 01:32:03,060
to understand what's really taking place.

1120
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:09,340
So thank you for the good work and Howard and Tony, Laura, thank you for being here.

1121
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:15,940
I'll do a great job and manage a lot of property and do a great job of it.

1122
01:32:15,940 --> 01:32:18,980
And they don't want anybody to pay more than they need to.

1123
01:32:18,980 --> 01:32:21,320
we've had that happen in the county before.

1124
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,300
This is everybody who needs to be treated fairly.

1125
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,540
This is when you want to be in number.

1126
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,720
You don't want anybody to pick on you

1127
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:33,820
because who you are, just be a statistic and get treated equally.

1128
01:32:33,820 --> 01:32:35,680
And I think you do a good job of doing that.

1129
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:36,540
Thank you.

1130
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,380
Thank you, Mr. Commissioner Clark.

1131
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,080
And Commissioner Andrew Laugh.

1132
01:32:41,540 --> 01:32:41,980
Thank you.

1133
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:48,160
Thank you for a great presentation and thanks to your entire mighty

1134
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:54,260
small but mighty workforce. I hope it might be like that. You can use that if you'd like to.

1135
01:32:54,380 --> 01:33:02,640
I'm still in here. I do want to congratulate you. I was accepted the award that was your

1136
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:09,360
award only because I was at Nathan National. But it was a National Recognition and you should be

1137
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:17,120
very proud of that, the National Association of Counties meeting had a special presentation

1138
01:33:17,630 --> 01:33:23,160
by the Center for Digital Government and Wash of County took third thanks to you and

1139
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:23,580
the team.

1140
01:33:24,300 --> 01:33:25,780
So, congratulations on that.

1141
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:42,340
So, I know I've had this discussion with you, but I'm very, we're all clear now that you're

1142
01:33:42,340 --> 01:33:44,620
staffing level is 2012.

1143
01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:51,080
Even though I think that technology always comes into play as it evolves, it becomes more

1144
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:56,360
efficient and effective and every, but it uses it in various ways for various reasons.

1145
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:04,020
But the reality is that to assess every parcel that needs to be assessed from a mathematical

1146
01:34:04,700 --> 01:34:10,300
perspective would be at a hundred percent and I'm wondering what the percentages that you're

1147
01:34:10,300 --> 01:34:18,720
able to reach, is it 80% of the 100%, or are you reaching the assessment of the 100%.

1148
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,320
So, it's a great question, actually.

1149
01:34:22,460 --> 01:34:27,680
So when it comes to reappraisal, the appraisal process, we are doing a 100% every year.

1150
01:34:27,860 --> 01:34:30,560
We're mounded by just statute to do once every five years.

1151
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:36,980
Now, if we do that, you're absolutely talking about loss, valuation, loss, revenue, right?

1152
01:34:36,980 --> 01:34:43,940
You're also talking in about errors and lawsuits that we don't want to bring up again, right?

1153
01:34:44,060 --> 01:34:47,860
Inclane. That was a big thing. We don't want to talk about that and we don't want to go there again, right?

1154
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,600
So it's it's my opinion. It's super important to absolutely hammer home annual

1155
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:59,720
Reapraisal every single year to capture market as it swings. Okay, so we are doing that 100% but to your point

1156
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:11,600
When we're looking at accuracy and property records and picking up some of these things that may not have been permitted or things that were skipped or things of that nature, there's lots of value there.

1157
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,340
As you can see, it was like 1.8 billion.

1158
01:35:17,020 --> 01:35:23,080
We're not reaching that goal of 20%. We're only reaching about 10, 15% every view.

1159
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,660
So there are opportunities in that regard.

1160
01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:28,540
When we're talking about personal property,

1161
01:35:30,060 --> 01:35:31,480
the audits that we are doing right now,

1162
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,240
they're tied to a contract that we have with TMA.

1163
01:35:35,020 --> 01:35:38,100
In fact, we'll be to the table with you guys on that this year.

1164
01:35:38,260 --> 01:35:40,140
Again, the returns on that are phenomenal.

1165
01:35:41,660 --> 01:35:43,960
But what we're missing with the TMA audits

1166
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:48,920
is that they are doing big, large-scale casinos,

1167
01:35:49,140 --> 01:35:50,540
things like that in nature, right?

1168
01:35:50,540 --> 01:35:59,020
So we're missing is that upper tier that we, if we had that auto team, we could build that out a little bit differently, so zero percent on that.

1169
01:35:59,780 --> 01:36:02,580
So there's opportunities for sure.

1170
01:36:03,980 --> 01:36:10,180
But yes, as far as the reappraisal were bound and statute to do it, and we're reaching that out a hundred percent, which is good.

1171
01:36:10,420 --> 01:36:14,260
But that appraisal value is tied to CAP value, right?

1172
01:36:14,260 --> 01:36:17,520
because as market variables, the value is my double,

1173
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,840
but you're still cat, the three percent, eight percent.

1174
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,180
But the real value that you're seeing

1175
01:36:24,180 --> 01:36:26,680
is through that new discovery process,

1176
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,200
that new that's being added to the role,

1177
01:36:29,380 --> 01:36:31,940
whether it's through permits or a review

1178
01:36:31,940 --> 01:36:35,260
of something in that nature or so, new assets, we find so.

1179
01:36:35,480 --> 01:36:38,900
Well, given that we are all going to be,

1180
01:36:38,900 --> 01:36:42,020
I'm having robust discussions about the budgets

1181
01:36:42,020 --> 01:36:50,280
and some of the constraints that are going to be discussed in the future, I think it's really

1182
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:55,700
helpful to create a business plan in terms of what do you need in additional resources

1183
01:36:55,700 --> 01:36:57,980
and what is the ROI look like?

1184
01:36:58,180 --> 01:37:04,580
And so I would just ask that that be incorporated in the preparation so that we have the

1185
01:37:04,580 --> 01:37:04,980
facts.

1186
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:10,220
It's really interesting when you're talking about government and essential services.

1187
01:37:10,220 --> 01:37:16,860
because we don't think about funding in the sense of it being a revenue like a business, but

1188
01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:24,060
if there are opportunities that we are leaving on the table, I think it's really important

1189
01:37:24,060 --> 01:37:29,940
for us to look at the expert that you are and your staff in putting that plan together.

1190
01:37:29,940 --> 01:37:33,500
And I think that's really essential and providing that information.

1191
01:37:33,500 --> 01:37:43,900
So, I would ask that you put that together if you see fit and it sounds like you have other suggestions too on the last slide.

1192
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:52,260
You talked about shared services and I think that there would be a great opportunity to look at what does that look like.

1193
01:37:52,620 --> 01:37:54,000
It was the highlight in yellow.

1194
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:55,560
Maybe it wasn't the light.

1195
01:37:55,940 --> 01:37:57,900
We asked for the support of our office.

1196
01:37:58,620 --> 01:37:59,220
What?

1197
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:08,100
Okay, we asked for the support of our office as we continually navigate changes at various levels of state county cities and of course our own office and so

1198
01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:19,960
what I'm saying is that if there's a way to leverage the services of all of the elected officials, you, you and I spoke about that for full transparency, maybe that wasn't the right one.

1199
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,260
So I think this slide is right there

1200
01:38:22,260 --> 01:38:23,120
of sharing resources.

1201
01:38:23,140 --> 01:38:23,940
Sharing resources.

1202
01:38:25,660 --> 01:38:29,800
But the point is that if I think putting something together

1203
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,660
with that would be really helpful too.

1204
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,100
What does that look like?

1205
01:38:33,940 --> 01:38:36,880
And I think that we all have to start thinking differently

1206
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,720
just because we've done it in the past

1207
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,420
doesn't mean we're going to do it in the future

1208
01:38:40,420 --> 01:38:43,780
as we're looking at significant constraints

1209
01:38:43,780 --> 01:38:47,040
that are budgetary and everyone's looking at that.

1210
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:48,440
So I think we have to look.

1211
01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:55,800
said this before for the quarters in the couch. Except you have an opportunity, your quarters

1212
01:38:55,800 --> 01:39:01,100
are more than quarters. And I think that if we're missing those opportunities and leveraging

1213
01:39:01,100 --> 01:39:05,040
inefficiency and looking at what that is, if you could build that, that would be helpful.

1214
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:11,080
We can do that. I would really appreciate it. I would really appreciate it. Thank you. But anyway,

1215
01:39:11,300 --> 01:39:15,660
thanks for all your hard work and congratulations again on your national award. Oh, thank you.

1216
01:39:15,660 --> 01:39:19,780
Yeah, Washington is a word, but we can try to get it.

1217
01:39:21,340 --> 01:39:22,460
Commissioner Garcia.

1218
01:39:23,500 --> 01:39:24,180
Thank you so much.

1219
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:24,860
No questions.

1220
01:39:25,440 --> 01:39:30,340
I'm really glad the public got to see and hear the wide breadth of services that you and

1221
01:39:30,340 --> 01:39:31,220
your team provide.

1222
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:38,100
Not only in terms of your skillset, but the geographical area that you cover, it's incredible.

1223
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:45,460
I appreciate your scrappiness and trying to find those opportunities and just leveraging everything

1224
01:39:45,460 --> 01:39:49,580
possibly can because you are absolutely right the ROI of this office is tremendous.

1225
01:39:50,340 --> 01:39:54,360
We couldn't do the work that we do in providing these essential services to our constituents.

1226
01:39:55,020 --> 01:39:59,980
So it is a really important discussion that we had today and congratulations on that.

1227
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:12,440
On your hard work. So I guess I do have one question though. You've been in the struggle for three years. We talked about change as the only constant. What do you anticipate your office is going to see in terms of change in the next three four years?

1228
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:27,880
Well, we really went under God. I mean, since taking this position, obviously, we had a lot of changes with regards to corn, ferry in this, and then we just really recently had about 15% of the turnover in our office at high level positions in our leadership roles that turned over right.

1229
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:33,960
And so navigating through that, getting those reclassifications and that work chart

1230
01:40:34,700 --> 01:40:40,520
reconfigured was a first step and that now obviously that institutional knowledge

1231
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:44,220
that has left with that we still have people that are coming in with that knowledge

1232
01:40:44,220 --> 01:40:48,580
right but communication channels right and how that looks and how we're communicating

1233
01:40:48,580 --> 01:40:52,040
going forward and how we're building ourselves out of the team and as you looked at

1234
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:56,020
like building out liaison things with their own office I think you have a lot of new

1235
01:40:56,020 --> 01:41:01,280
professionals that are coming in with skill sets that are above them beyond what they used to be,

1236
01:41:01,580 --> 01:41:07,140
right? So, a lot of them are very technologically advanced. And so, we have an assessor

1237
01:41:07,140 --> 01:41:12,160
tech team, but within a lot of the stuff that we're looking at with building out programs and

1238
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:16,920
applications and things like that, that skill set and building that and understanding that and communicating

1239
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:22,400
that is going to be a big challenge, right? And not necessarily a challenge but something that

1240
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:27,480
have to stay on top of this far as what's out there, what's this person doing, what's

1241
01:41:27,480 --> 01:41:33,780
that person doing, bringing that together and honing that in. I definitely, as far as

1242
01:41:33,780 --> 01:41:40,240
like valuations from our office, one of the big changes too is just, we need to get to

1243
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:46,060
the field, right? And so we're doing a lot of the work online, which is great. But we also,

1244
01:41:46,440 --> 01:41:49,320
we had to look at, there's a lot of times when we have to be out in the field, it's like building

1245
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:53,960
inspectors and that sort of thing right so what we see and kind of change in that

1246
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:57,780
regard is that we're one person might go out now it maybe takes two for safety

1247
01:41:57,780 --> 01:42:04,400
standards and things of that nature so just trying to deploy that from I still

1248
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:09,700
feel strong about our region as far as a place to want to be obviously there's

1249
01:42:09,700 --> 01:42:15,420
still demand here people want to live here it's affordability right and so

1250
01:42:15,420 --> 01:42:17,760
It's still common we're still growing.

1251
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:23,540
I don't see personally at decline necessarily in that growth

1252
01:42:23,540 --> 01:42:26,720
and revenue is going forward, but I don't know.

1253
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:27,760
Did I answer the question?

1254
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:29,180
I'd just sometimes I ramble.

1255
01:42:29,780 --> 01:42:31,020
So, okay.

1256
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:34,040
Well, thank you so much.

1257
01:42:34,260 --> 01:42:40,720
Yes, we are so impressed by you and your team and really excited to hear your future plans

1258
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:42,800
and how we can support your office.

1259
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:51,320
and I agree with the board on put together that proposal on opportunities for missing revenue

1260
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:52,340
with those audits.

1261
01:42:52,700 --> 01:42:59,280
If folks are not disclosing their home improvements, then getting more staff out in the field,

1262
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:00,200
that's essential.

1263
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,720
I know when I was a planner, that was something that you have to do.

1264
01:43:03,740 --> 01:43:07,620
You have to go out and see what's actually happening on the ground, so we want to support

1265
01:43:07,620 --> 01:43:09,420
you and your team to do that as well.

1266
01:43:09,420 --> 01:43:36,080
And I'm curious, on the abated and exempted properties, I know there's like a lot more to dial in on that information, fascinating information, and I think people forget that some of these abatements are also green energy abatements and have, you know, an investment long term for the community as well.

1267
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,900
But I'm wondering in that big book, you just showed us,

1268
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,320
are they detailed out in there?

1269
01:43:42,500 --> 01:43:46,200
I'm just curious, like, and I don't want to give you

1270
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,660
any homework if this exists somewhere, but in a pie chart,

1271
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,440
that 244 million abated, and then the 128...

1272
01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:55,280
Words were allocated to.

1273
01:43:55,660 --> 01:43:57,040
Yeah, you could do those allocations for you.

1274
01:43:57,300 --> 01:43:58,580
We should be able to do that.

1275
01:43:58,780 --> 01:44:05,560
Fascinating, because I'm curious of the 128 million

1276
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:11,560
exempted how much of it, that is that economic, you know, a

1277
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,080
statement and then a government religious, all those things.

1278
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,160
Yeah, how that's broken out.

1279
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:19,960
And then I think you bring up a really good point with the airport.

1280
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:24,480
And I think that's going to be a very interesting discussion for the

1281
01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:27,420
community to have moving forward because there's a lot of

1282
01:44:27,420 --> 01:44:30,240
redevelopment that's happening in that sphere.

1283
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:38,840
so we need to have a good discussion because of that 128 million exempted properties,

1284
01:44:40,340 --> 01:44:47,840
they do come back on some of them, do come back on the roles because they're a 10-year-of-a-bit,

1285
01:44:48,020 --> 01:44:52,180
a 20-year-of-a-bit, and like what we saw with Tesla and Story County, they're...

1286
01:44:52,180 --> 01:44:57,760
The wind fall over there. Exactly, they've got their first abatement coming back to them and

1287
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:58,940
and some of these properties.

1288
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:08,380
We will never see come back on the rolls, and yet they are impacting government services and the quality of life in wash-o-county.

1289
01:45:08,420 --> 01:45:19,660
Yeah, some of it is very big value. Exactly. So yes, I'd love to see a detail of that not to give you homework, but if you've got it available, that would be so interesting.

1290
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:28,960
And really looking forward to continuing to work with you and your team, and thank you for your commitment to wash-o-county and your service.

1291
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,220
Thank you very much. Thank you for having me.

1292
01:45:31,220 --> 01:45:32,140
Yeah, I'm so appreciate it.

1293
01:45:32,140 --> 01:45:32,760
Our pleasure.

1294
01:45:33,740 --> 01:45:34,020
Okay.

1295
01:45:34,220 --> 01:45:39,160
We will now move into presentation six B1, Mr. Sler.

1296
01:45:39,660 --> 01:45:42,460
Now item six B1 is a presentation on the unaudited.

1297
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,020
This year 2025 year in general fund budget

1298
01:45:45,020 --> 01:45:46,800
to actual revenue and expenditures.

1299
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:51,160
And Ms. Cook and Ms. Hill are here to provide this presentation.

1300
01:45:52,140 --> 01:45:52,580
Welcome.

1301
01:45:55,810 --> 01:45:59,150
Now we can talk about what we're doing with the assessor's work.

1302
01:46:00,150 --> 01:46:02,330
Yeah, we're kind of the downers in the room sometimes.

1303
01:46:03,250 --> 01:46:07,030
So, good app, morning still, commissioners for the record,

1304
01:46:07,090 --> 01:46:08,610
Lori Cook, Washington County Budget Manager,

1305
01:46:09,670 --> 01:46:11,050
just putting a disclaimer up front.

1306
01:46:11,130 --> 01:46:13,710
We're still closing out the fiscal year 25 books.

1307
01:46:14,250 --> 01:46:18,370
This information is dated as about as 21st and it does change.

1308
01:46:18,770 --> 01:46:21,990
You'll get the audited financials by I think December,

1309
01:46:22,650 --> 01:46:27,610
and so we'll have the final numbers final information at that point.

1310
01:46:28,290 --> 01:46:35,850
So, what we are looking at is a familiar, most familiar for me, the sources in use as an

1311
01:46:35,850 --> 01:46:36,950
analysis of the general fund.

1312
01:46:38,130 --> 01:46:44,290
The consolidated tax that is in the orange, as of today, we do not have our finalcy

1313
01:46:44,290 --> 01:46:45,910
tax distribution from the state.

1314
01:46:46,030 --> 01:46:52,810
They had a change in their financial system, and they've experienced some challenges, and

1315
01:46:52,810 --> 01:46:56,370
we can't get really get any information right now based on what's going on at the state.

1316
01:46:56,370 --> 01:46:58,110
so we can't really get a lot of updated information

1317
01:46:58,110 --> 01:46:59,930
on financial systems with their shutdown.

1318
01:47:01,090 --> 01:47:04,390
So, but right now we're trending at lower than estimated.

1319
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:08,210
The SEC or TAB14 is a separate,

1320
01:47:09,110 --> 01:47:12,150
it's a supplemental city county tax relief.

1321
01:47:12,910 --> 01:47:15,810
And we get that separate and it is,

1322
01:47:15,890 --> 01:47:18,350
we do have all of our distributions related to that,

1323
01:47:18,370 --> 01:47:20,310
unless there is a final final trope,

1324
01:47:20,530 --> 01:47:22,130
but we do have two June distributions.

1325
01:47:23,190 --> 01:47:24,910
So those are the variants as right now

1326
01:47:24,910 --> 01:47:39,250
That are material variances when we look at where do we think we were going to be and then where are we as of you know, last Thursday at the 21st the other item to and and the next slide to have some taxable sales information.

1327
01:47:40,150 --> 01:47:50,910
But the other item in here that shows as a source that shows in our revenue is the URGL so that's unrealized gains and losses that is a it's a book value.

1328
01:47:50,910 --> 01:47:53,370
it's an accounting, it's not cash.

1329
01:47:54,150 --> 01:47:58,410
So when we see a positive number, it basically increases,

1330
01:47:58,550 --> 01:48:00,450
reflects an refund balance as an increase.

1331
01:48:00,830 --> 01:48:02,790
If it was a negative number, which we have had,

1332
01:48:02,850 --> 01:48:06,650
it depends on the market, it'll show as a negative number.

1333
01:48:07,370 --> 01:48:09,350
And then we have transfers in.

1334
01:48:09,670 --> 01:48:13,030
So total resources or sources at year end

1335
01:48:13,030 --> 01:48:16,350
as that 501 million, which is slightly different

1336
01:48:16,350 --> 01:48:19,490
than the estimated, but we still have,

1337
01:48:19,490 --> 01:48:26,430
And I'll just say sea tax is approximately 32 percent of all general fund revenue and we have

1338
01:48:26,430 --> 01:48:28,410
about a 12th of that missing right now.

1339
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:33,070
We also had a distribution at the end of January, which was the November distribution.

1340
01:48:33,410 --> 01:48:40,270
And it was about 60 percent of what we would have anticipated, and a lot of that has to

1341
01:48:40,270 --> 01:48:42,070
do with the states change in their system.

1342
01:48:42,510 --> 01:48:47,990
So it was a $7 million distribution we would have expected something around 13 million.

1343
01:48:48,530 --> 01:48:56,910
So we and we don't know we can't get reconciliation taxation is indicated that's not something that they're going to provide that as they reconcile that and get things fixed.

1344
01:48:57,090 --> 01:48:59,350
We'll just it'll just trickle in with our other distributions.

1345
01:49:01,030 --> 01:49:03,750
So that's kind of where we are related to sea tax.

1346
01:49:04,010 --> 01:49:07,930
The reason this is such a challenge is trying to project where we're going to be.

1347
01:49:08,370 --> 01:49:14,490
So when we look at wash of county taxable sales and this is through May, this is available online through the Department of Taxation.

1348
01:49:14,490 --> 01:49:19,370
they have at local government page and have revenues statistics, so this is publicly available.

1349
01:49:20,330 --> 01:49:26,210
If we look through May, we see that wash-out-canny taxable sales. The prior years are the entire year.

1350
01:49:26,490 --> 01:49:32,850
So through May, when we look at 2025, is that 11.4. So taxable sales in wash-out-canny are actually

1351
01:49:32,850 --> 01:49:40,310
up 3.9% based on the state's data. Our distributions are down to percent total,

1352
01:49:41,330 --> 01:49:51,170
But that includes an offset, we have seen an increase in government services tax, so that's the registration comes through registration of the Department of Motor Vehicles and real property transfer tax.

1353
01:49:51,390 --> 01:49:56,490
So those properties when they get sold or they go on the books, that tax that's associated with that.

1354
01:49:56,630 --> 01:49:59,790
When we look at the, and I'm sorry for the acronyms.

1355
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:13,980
The BCCRT, which is the basic city county relief tax and a supplemental city county relief tax, which are part of the fair share, the AB104-1991-1993. If I remember, those could be wrong dates.

1356
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:23,160
So those were implemented. But what we see with those distributions, when we go through May, is that it's down from prior year at 3.2%.

1357
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:28,200
So, really what we're looking at, if we're trying to do, it doesn't always follow exactly

1358
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:33,320
there, timing issues, sometimes there's refunds issued and the taxable sales gets adjusted

1359
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:38,980
in a different time period than the distributions. But what we're really seeing is an increase

1360
01:50:38,980 --> 01:50:44,420
in taxable sales, but a decrease in taxable sales distributions. So, it is a challenge we are

1361
01:50:44,420 --> 01:50:50,100
doing our best, having conversations with our partners, our local partners, and we are not the

1362
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:56,800
only agency that is having concerns issues, challenges related to this, of course, is the entire

1363
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:57,100
state.

1364
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:01,540
So it's not a social county alone, but this does impact, you know, the city of Sparks,

1365
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,960
the city of Reno, trekking miles, fire protection district, gets a sea tax distribution.

1366
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:11,080
So this isn't just us, but it makes it very difficult to, where do we think we're going to be when

1367
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:16,420
we're looking at estimates or what's happening locally with taxable sales and how do we address

1368
01:51:16,420 --> 01:51:20,080
that when we plan for resources, when we see this kind of disconnect between the

1369
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,180
information not available to us.

1370
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,940
So again, I'm not throwing anybody in the bus, I'm just saying, this is what we're seeing.

1371
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:32,300
So this is where we are as of, for man taxable sales, but also may on our distributions,

1372
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,100
we should be getting one more distribution.

1373
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:38,940
The other half, to when we talk about where do we end the year, and what do we look like,

1374
01:51:38,980 --> 01:51:43,020
especially compared to our estimates, is when we start talking about expenditures and uses.

1375
01:51:43,420 --> 01:51:45,540
And for that, I'm going to hand it over to Kathy.

1376
01:51:45,540 --> 01:51:46,540
So,

1377
01:51:49,770 --> 01:51:54,530
as Washow County continues to wait for its final revenue sources, currently like Laurie said,

1378
01:51:54,930 --> 01:52:00,450
we, this is through August 21st, we are still working at closing the book, so expenses are still coming in.

1379
01:52:00,670 --> 01:52:07,470
For the uses, right now, based upon the budget, the estimates complete that was used.

1380
01:52:07,750 --> 01:52:16,310
We are over budget in salaries and benefits for Washow County, slightly over than what the estimates complete was looked at,

1381
01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:19,790
And then for services and supplies, we are under.

1382
01:52:20,450 --> 01:52:21,990
So there is the benefit there.

1383
01:52:22,250 --> 01:52:25,450
However, the final number, the ETC that was anticipated

1384
01:52:25,450 --> 01:52:27,730
and using salary savings that were not recognized

1385
01:52:27,730 --> 01:52:30,950
was using anticipating using $12.9 million

1386
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:31,910
of fund balance.

1387
01:52:32,290 --> 01:52:36,590
Currently as of August 21st, we are at 13.7 million

1388
01:52:36,590 --> 01:52:37,750
use of fund balance.

1389
01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:40,750
Hopefully that gets better.

1390
01:52:41,450 --> 01:52:44,110
That's where we're at as of August 21st.

1391
01:52:50,580 --> 01:52:55,060
There we go, there's just reiterates the use of unbalanced, not the goal of the county.

1392
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:59,200
Do that, obviously, to try to minimize uses of unbalanced next presentation.

1393
01:53:00,060 --> 01:53:01,560
Hopefully we will have August close.

1394
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,100
We will still be going through the other process.

1395
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:07,300
These numbers are unaudited and are changing daily.

1396
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:11,100
And the final audit should be presented to the board in December.

1397
01:53:14,480 --> 01:53:15,420
And well, any questions?

1398
01:53:15,780 --> 01:53:17,060
Thank you very much.

1399
01:53:17,060 --> 01:53:21,640
Oh, it is a bummer, but it's good to have that information.

1400
01:53:21,980 --> 01:53:25,140
I mean, we knew we were going to be using fund balance this year,

1401
01:53:25,860 --> 01:53:29,760
and as we have been using fund balance because our expenses

1402
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:34,560
cannot keep up with our revenues, but that is interesting

1403
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:36,720
about the C tax piece.

1404
01:53:37,440 --> 01:53:42,760
And please let us know what this board can do to support your work and

1405
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:46,560
bring together the counties and cities on this issue

1406
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,620
because we, you know, I'm hearing the same thing

1407
01:53:49,620 --> 01:53:50,940
from trucking meadows fire.

1408
01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:52,280
They're very concerned as well.

1409
01:53:53,020 --> 01:53:56,720
And I know that the rest of our communities around the state

1410
01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:58,260
are having the same issues.

1411
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:02,200
So I'm not, has the state put together a plan

1412
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,880
about how they plan on addressing this with the county?

1413
01:54:08,020 --> 01:54:10,160
We have not had any, we're seeing anything concrete

1414
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:10,760
from the state.

1415
01:54:10,860 --> 01:54:14,100
We are waiting with Bayden breath, understanding that they

1416
01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:16,160
have some challenges that they're trying to work through there.

1417
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:21,360
It does affect all the entities of the state, and I'm sure they're aware of the sensitive nature of that.

1418
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:28,260
In conjunction with that, there's also a rule for financial reporting that you can only go 60 days past the end of the year,

1419
01:54:28,460 --> 01:54:37,300
so we're hoping to get these numbers in many August 31st, which if we don't, it'll change our financial reporting landscape for sure.

1420
01:54:37,300 --> 01:54:45,700
And there isn't any precedent for asking for an audit of the state, certainly, the county can't do that.

1421
01:54:45,860 --> 01:54:46,340
I'm just curious.

1422
01:54:46,420 --> 01:54:49,580
The state is audited the same ways the county is.

1423
01:54:49,780 --> 01:54:54,620
If you want to do a specific financial audit, whether it's a fraud audit revenue audit,

1424
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:58,260
I don't know the course of action to take on that.

1425
01:54:59,260 --> 01:54:59,640
Fair enough.

1426
01:55:00,430 --> 01:55:07,530
Commissioner Garcia. Okay. Commissioner and Drulla. Commissioner Clark. Thank you, Madam Chair.

1427
01:55:08,810 --> 01:55:18,250
I've got a couple of questions, but this issue of, I guess, late payments, I mean, are getting this money out distributed to the rest of the county.

1428
01:55:19,150 --> 01:55:24,890
This is a statewide issue. This might be a good, yes, is it?

1429
01:55:24,890 --> 01:55:27,470
Commissioner, yes, my understanding is a state issue.

1430
01:55:27,890 --> 01:55:30,590
We, the state, when they distribute the consolidated tax,

1431
01:55:30,890 --> 01:55:32,670
it's basically the same time.

1432
01:55:33,430 --> 01:55:37,030
We have, from, I guess it's an advantage in a way,

1433
01:55:37,730 --> 01:55:39,810
that the real property transfer tax that is collected

1434
01:55:39,810 --> 01:55:41,410
by the county recorders.

1435
01:55:41,590 --> 01:55:44,770
So when those properties and then that goes into a due to the state,

1436
01:55:44,770 --> 01:55:47,130
it goes to the state and they get it back to the counties,

1437
01:55:47,990 --> 01:55:52,070
as well as the government services tax is recouped

1438
01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:58,650
collected by the DMV, and then comes back out. So we haven't seen the delay or the backlog

1439
01:55:58,650 --> 01:56:04,070
when it comes to that, but those are not the material, I don't say they're not material. They're

1440
01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:10,650
important. But about 84% of our C-text distribution is directly related to those items that we're

1441
01:56:10,650 --> 01:56:17,450
still waiting on. So yes, it's across the entire state. Last week, we were notified that the

1442
01:56:17,450 --> 01:56:22,750
attention was to get us our final distribution by this week, mid to late this week, but I'm

1443
01:56:22,750 --> 01:56:29,510
not quite sure with the state shutdown and their issues right now, how that is going to work

1444
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:34,350
as far as what information they would have available. We'd be willing to take a check,

1445
01:56:34,750 --> 01:56:38,530
then don't have to do like an electronic electronic transfer. We'll take a check. I'll take it to the

1446
01:56:38,530 --> 01:56:42,370
bank or we'll just didn't. We'll get that put in, but I don't know how that's going to work.

1447
01:56:42,370 --> 01:56:48,790
Sure, we go back to the slides. I think it was a second to that one. Well, we'll go forward.

1448
01:56:49,710 --> 01:56:52,370
It's the one with the scale on it.

1449
01:56:53,470 --> 01:56:59,430
That one. I'm looking at that and I'm seeing expenses are outweighing income.

1450
01:57:00,210 --> 01:57:03,590
And that's a real problem that we need to focus on.

1451
01:57:03,690 --> 01:57:07,370
I mean, it's a cute little picture, but the reality is,

1452
01:57:08,470 --> 01:57:12,370
expenses are exceeding income and it's something that we need to look at.

1453
01:57:13,170 --> 01:57:18,750
It's again a nice graphic, but the real story is how do we write that.

1454
01:57:19,670 --> 01:57:27,730
Again, going back to this, I took some notes down, so you said that the C taxes are up, but the distribution is slow.

1455
01:57:28,330 --> 01:57:33,570
Taxable sales are up and the distribution is slow.

1456
01:57:33,570 --> 01:57:37,430
So I mean, if I was a candidate for running for governor,

1457
01:57:37,690 --> 01:57:39,430
I might use that as a campaign speech,

1458
01:57:39,530 --> 01:57:42,370
something to stump with about getting this straight.

1459
01:57:42,450 --> 01:57:43,570
Now, with the state and about,

1460
01:57:43,670 --> 01:57:44,430
I would say the state and about,

1461
01:57:44,650 --> 01:57:47,230
I need to do a better job of doing what they're doing.

1462
01:57:47,350 --> 01:57:50,590
I know as a department head in the past,

1463
01:57:50,790 --> 01:57:53,390
where we had the Department of Taxation

1464
01:57:53,390 --> 01:57:56,570
in an irregular basis auditing what we're doing.

1465
01:57:57,150 --> 01:57:59,650
Somebody should be looking at what the state's doing

1466
01:57:59,650 --> 01:58:03,010
and make sure that they're paying these money

1467
01:58:03,010 --> 01:58:07,950
out of the time we fashion for the City of Reno, the City of Sparta, Fire District, all the counties

1468
01:58:07,950 --> 01:58:13,490
that this is a real problem, we've got obligations that we need to take care of as well.

1469
01:58:14,730 --> 01:58:21,210
So this is a problem and others might know how we can get that addressed to the powers of

1470
01:58:21,210 --> 01:58:26,610
be down in Carson City and see if we can speed up the process, so thank you for your presentation.

1471
01:58:28,110 --> 01:58:33,430
Thank you very much. We really appreciate your time and your work and service to wash

1472
01:58:33,430 --> 01:58:38,650
County and we'll just continue to work on building next year's budget together. Thank

1473
01:58:38,650 --> 01:58:42,410
you. Okay, we are going into our last presentation.

1474
01:58:43,390 --> 01:58:44,610
6C1, Mr. Slero.

1475
01:58:44,950 --> 01:58:51,450
All right, item 6C1 is the director of the State Department of Agriculture. Mr. Goetheya, here

1476
01:58:51,450 --> 01:58:55,270
to discuss the Virginia rain choices, not to be held accountable for the Department of

1477
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:57,310
I just want to throw that out there.

1478
01:58:57,830 --> 01:58:59,890
We also have representatives from the city arena

1479
01:58:59,890 --> 01:59:01,430
who just got a little bit about a project

1480
01:59:01,430 --> 01:59:02,910
that they are doing as well.

1481
01:59:03,090 --> 01:59:05,110
So with that, I'll turn it over to Mr. Poetchia.

1482
01:59:09,190 --> 01:59:09,610
We're on.

1483
01:59:11,980 --> 01:59:12,720
All right, thank you.

1484
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,120
And Director Goetchia for the record

1485
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:16,400
of out of Department of Agriculture.

1486
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:18,360
Can you manage your salero?

1487
01:59:18,820 --> 01:59:19,260
Chair Hill.

1488
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:20,660
Thank you very much for approving

1489
01:59:20,660 --> 01:59:22,660
in the agenda that puts a state agency immediately

1490
01:59:22,660 --> 01:59:23,980
behind that presentation.

1491
01:59:25,340 --> 01:59:28,960
We are from the state, but we are not here to help

1492
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,780
with C Tax Distribution.

1493
01:59:31,940 --> 01:59:34,080
I spent three terms sitting where you are,

1494
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:35,280
so I can understand that.

1495
01:59:35,340 --> 01:59:36,680
I appreciate that very much.

1496
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:40,280
I do have Deputy Director Doug Ferris here with me today.

1497
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:42,360
Thank you for accommodating us.

1498
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:43,340
We will be brief.

1499
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:45,200
I'm sure there may be some questions on this

1500
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:47,280
and definitely value your time here.

1501
01:59:47,820 --> 01:59:49,580
We do have to get back and see if we can't

1502
01:59:49,580 --> 01:59:52,980
re-light some of our agency and get moving forward with that.

1503
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:55,460
So real quick updates on Virginia Range,

1504
01:59:55,460 --> 01:59:59,980
and Australia Horses, what are the Virginia Range Horses?

1505
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:08,780
So, it's commonly referred to as veari, Virginia, range, astray. And how we got there in 1984, the BLM declared

1506
02:00:08,780 --> 02:00:15,840
to Virginia, range, wild, horse, free. So, what's that mean? You've heard about the 1971 wild, free-roaning

1507
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:23,080
wild horse and burrow act. These horses do not fall underneath that as actions taken in 1984 by the BLM.

1508
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:29,680
Those horses were at that time deemed astray horses. There was a large ranching operation in that area

1509
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:34,980
for many years, and a lot of these horses are actually descendants that came from that ranching

1510
02:00:34,980 --> 02:00:35,480
operation.

1511
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:42,600
So they are managed under NRS 569, which we have the sole authority in the state and the

1512
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:46,740
Nevada Department of Ag does to manage federal and a straight livestock.

1513
02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:48,560
And that does what these horses are.

1514
02:00:49,020 --> 02:00:53,840
They've migrated there over time before fencing was completed in some areas, and they've

1515
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:58,340
also just reproduced from those original horses that were there from that ranching operation

1516
02:00:58,340 --> 02:01:03,960
that were not claimed, and those forces that were there in 1984, we also do know that horses

1517
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:08,680
are continuing to be turned out on that Virginia range, and they do fall under our jurisdiction.

1518
02:01:09,540 --> 02:01:13,760
Now I want to note that anywhere, we manage animals, livestock, everywhere in the state

1519
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:15,480
in Nevada, all 17 counties.

1520
02:01:16,180 --> 02:01:20,280
The stray animals everywhere else, we pick them up, we advertise them, can we find the owner

1521
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,980
if not, we sell them, we place them at that point, that's what we do.

1522
02:01:23,980 --> 02:01:30,980
We are managing these differently, number one because of the number of them and historically that is what has been done.

1523
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,100
So where is the Virginia Range?

1524
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:37,740
The North boundary is interstate 80 as it runs through the canyon.

1525
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:42,540
One of our favorite, I guess, transitory pathways.

1526
02:01:42,540 --> 02:01:44,020
We will call it at this point.

1527
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:49,960
East boundary, highway 95A, along by Furnley at the South boundaries, US 50.

1528
02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:54,520
and the Northern Outskirts of Carson City to exclude those residential areas, West

1529
02:01:54,520 --> 02:02:00,300
boundary, East Lake Boulevard, Old U.S. 395, and Veterans Parkway. Now East Lake

1530
02:02:00,300 --> 02:02:04,760
Boulevard was always fence-dough, and that wash-a-lake, the scripts, those sensitive

1531
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:09,160
areas were fence-dough, that fences and disrepair, and we'll get into a little bit here

1532
02:02:09,160 --> 02:02:14,880
in a minute of what Nevada is as a fence-out state. So as we started looking at this and

1533
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:19,600
we knew we were having public safety concerns, the one thing we knew we could not do, was

1534
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,780
put that East Lake Boulevard fence back up.

1535
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:24,580
That was just going to provide a place for horses

1536
02:02:24,580 --> 02:02:27,900
to congregate, and that is a very busy roadway

1537
02:02:27,900 --> 02:02:28,980
as you all know anymore.

1538
02:02:29,340 --> 02:02:31,240
The last thing we can do is have horses standing

1539
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:34,020
on a fence with the traffic that is on that road.

1540
02:02:35,380 --> 02:02:36,820
So how do we manage these horses?

1541
02:02:37,340 --> 02:02:40,000
There is no general fund money for these horses,

1542
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:42,360
and we manage those from programs

1543
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:43,900
in the division of animal industry.

1544
02:02:44,100 --> 02:02:48,080
That includes brand recording fees, brand inspection fees,

1545
02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:54,400
and astray livestock fees, so the livestock industry are what funds this program that we

1546
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:59,800
managed to be resources with, no other money that comes into that on a day-to-day basis.

1547
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:07,220
We were fortunate enough to get some money a few years ago through USDA, AFIS, our partners

1548
02:03:07,220 --> 02:03:07,680
there.

1549
02:03:07,860 --> 02:03:12,840
We did get some air-mark money out of Congress, and we have spent that money and most of

1550
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:15,980
that 75% was spent on public safety,

1551
02:03:16,340 --> 02:03:19,180
fencing and continuing investment on where we need

1552
02:03:19,180 --> 02:03:22,040
to do additional fencing to protect the public safety.

1553
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:25,500
We monitor welfare, relocation and fertility control.

1554
02:03:25,740 --> 02:03:29,460
We have great cooperating partners that we have agreements with,

1555
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:32,220
and it is their responsibility, we work well with them.

1556
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,220
If we have horses on roadways or they don't belong,

1557
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,940
we have horses on properties where they don't belong.

1558
02:03:37,260 --> 02:03:40,280
We contact those entities and they can remove those horses

1559
02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:41,460
and put them in a safe place.

1560
02:03:41,460 --> 02:03:47,520
we do put a lot of horses, adopt them into homes through that as well, and then our fertility

1561
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:51,640
control is being done by another one of our cooperative partners, and that is across the

1562
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:57,520
range, and we do have another one of those agreements in place at this time, we'll run through

1563
02:03:57,520 --> 02:03:59,340
September and October of next year.

1564
02:04:01,460 --> 02:04:04,920
So I talk about public safety and how that is bordered

1565
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:12,540
by four major highways, all kinds of residential areas. In 24 alone we had 36,

1566
02:04:12,540 --> 02:04:17,060
Police reported and it's actually 37 now reported vehicle collisions.

1567
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:24,740
We had to update that from going back through our data and 23 we had 42 reported crashes

1568
02:04:24,740 --> 02:04:25,820
in 22.

1569
02:04:26,020 --> 02:04:31,420
They were 24 and 21 or 27 and in 2020 we had 46 reported crashes.

1570
02:04:32,420 --> 02:04:37,840
So when I first came to the agency back to the agency as a director we heard you and we

1571
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:39,120
heard the city arena loudly.

1572
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:41,000
We have public safety concerns.

1573
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:46,340
we actually received a letter from the Chief of Police of Reno that we can't do this.

1574
02:04:46,580 --> 02:04:51,360
Our officers are responding or continuing to see these collisions and some of these are higher speed

1575
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:56,460
roads and they're in congested areas. So we took that very seriously and that's when we started

1576
02:04:56,460 --> 02:04:59,980
looking at how can we make this separation between those conditions?

1577
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:05,860
Just at areas, and these forces to protect our motoring public, to protect our children and our parks and in our own

1578
02:05:05,860 --> 02:05:12,500
vacuards and front yards. And so that is why we went the direction that we did. I think it should be

1579
02:05:12,500 --> 02:05:22,580
important to note, had the census numbers in 1997 or 413 horses on the range. In 2002 there are 1274,

1580
02:05:22,580 --> 02:05:33,800
4, 2008, 1448, and 14, 1959, and 1829, 1951, and 22, 3567.

1581
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:39,540
So we have a lot of horses, and that postage stamp that they are living on is shrinking

1582
02:05:39,540 --> 02:05:40,620
with continued development.

1583
02:05:41,020 --> 02:05:46,900
We know that it is, and again, we don't want to see any animals suffer.

1584
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:51,680
We don't want to see any animals that are impacted on our highways and more importantly,

1585
02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:56,100
want to protect our public. We do need to know it is illegal to feed and water the horses

1586
02:05:56,100 --> 02:06:01,380
they are a stray livestock and the statutes are clear. We cannot take up livestock. We cannot

1587
02:06:01,380 --> 02:06:06,120
feed and water the livestock that are out there. If you have them and they are there, give us

1588
02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:10,620
a call. If you need us to remove them, we will work with our partners. We can do that if they are

1589
02:06:10,620 --> 02:06:15,720
in an area that they do not belong or if they are causing concern for public safety.

1590
02:06:17,180 --> 02:06:22,020
Nevada is a FinS out state, as I said in our S5-69-431 is clear what a legal

1591
02:06:22,020 --> 02:06:25,700
FinS is and it's up to that property owner to FinS that out.

1592
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:28,500
You know, we hear a lot of talk, well that's BLM out there.

1593
02:06:28,820 --> 02:06:33,180
Again, that's a horse free area, it's been deemed horse free, the BLM doesn't have any horses

1594
02:06:33,180 --> 02:06:33,760
out there.

1595
02:06:34,220 --> 02:06:38,640
We are thankful we have a good working relationship with the BLM, should the Bureau of Land Management

1596
02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:40,840
decide to and trespass the state in Nevada?

1597
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:44,440
For those horses that are out there, that happens everywhere else in the state.

1598
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:49,180
if there are a stray and feral livestock that do not belong there, there's a trespass order

1599
02:06:49,180 --> 02:06:53,660
and those animals are gathered. So thankfully it has not come to that, but they do not

1600
02:06:53,660 --> 02:06:59,980
have a right under the 1971 act to be there. So yes, we are in the process of repairing and

1601
02:06:59,980 --> 02:07:06,220
constructing areas of fencing along the Virginia Range. We started at Jumbo and worked our way north.

1602
02:07:06,900 --> 02:07:14,360
Jumbo has many of you know, sure all of you know, in the washow Valley area, we'll work

1603
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:19,180
They had a fencing project. I know some of them are here. We'll let them speak here in just a second on what they are doing.

1604
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:27,180
We tied our fence in early this summer into where we agreed to to await the terminus of their fence in that same area.

1605
02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:32,560
So again, we can better secure South Reno and those areas that are very, very congested.

1606
02:07:32,820 --> 02:07:36,700
So we want to thank them for their partnership and that they have been great to work with.

1607
02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:42,380
As we told this is where we're going, where are you going? We've adjusted our lines to make sure that they do come out in that same place.

1608
02:07:42,380 --> 02:07:46,060
We don't want to leave a funnel. We don't want to leave a gap. We don't want to leave corners

1609
02:07:46,060 --> 02:07:51,100
where we can trap livestock. That's the other thing. You can make a lot of crazy fences and a lot

1610
02:07:51,100 --> 02:07:55,300
of corners and you end up with horses standing in corners where they shouldn't be livestock normally

1611
02:07:55,300 --> 02:08:02,660
do not like fenced corners. So I'm almost at a time and I promise myself I had to be done so we will

1612
02:08:02,660 --> 02:08:07,500
stop here for questions. We just have a little flyer here that our group had put together. He'd

1613
02:08:07,900 --> 02:08:09,500
I'll let you read that for yourself.

1614
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:10,680
You guys can all read.

1615
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:12,140
You don't need me to read that to you.

1616
02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:16,020
So if there are any questions, deputy director Ferris and our happy to ask for those.

1617
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,320
Or do we want to go on to to the city of Reno?

1618
02:08:20,140 --> 02:08:20,720
Any questions?

1619
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:23,200
Well, director Gokuchi.

1620
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:27,120
I thank you so much for taking the time and being so patient for this item to come up.

1621
02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:31,400
I'll have open it up to the board to see if there are any questions right now.

1622
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:33,320
Midway through Commissioner Clark.

1623
02:08:33,780 --> 02:08:35,700
I just want to thank you for your presentation.

1624
02:08:35,700 --> 02:08:40,700
It was a lightning exactly what's taking place, and I think if the public really understands

1625
02:08:40,700 --> 02:08:45,220
what's taking place as far as what your responsibilities are that what the states

1626
02:08:45,220 --> 02:08:49,480
responsibilities are, they'd have a different viewpoint on what's taking place.

1627
02:08:49,900 --> 02:08:54,820
Also, I'm going to point out item 7 E3 on our agenda today.

1628
02:08:55,360 --> 02:09:02,500
I'm donating a discretionary fund's $5,000 to the prison for training Mustang.

1629
02:09:02,500 --> 02:09:10,860
So I think, you know, fencing is one part of it, birth controls another part of it, adopting

1630
02:09:10,860 --> 02:09:15,500
these animals out to another part of it, let's put all these pieces together and see

1631
02:09:15,500 --> 02:09:20,880
if we can get this problem at least reduced because the population that you just read

1632
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:31,980
through and how it's growing, we get a 10,000 horses here in a couple of years if, you

1633
02:09:31,980 --> 02:09:35,100
safety reasons, car crashes,

1634
02:09:37,300 --> 02:09:44,680
costs to the municipalities for having emergency vehicles show up and

1635
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:51,040
just so many different levels and there's got to be a better way to do this and somebody

1636
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:56,240
has said earlier that people are shooting them and that's not the answer rounding them up as

1637
02:09:56,240 --> 02:09:59,540
Maybe not the answer, but maybe a birth control, adoption.

1638
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:06,280
Fencing, water, whatever it takes to solve this problem. Thank you for your hard work.

1639
02:10:07,220 --> 02:10:10,660
Thank you for Commissioner Clark. We are committed to continue to work through that with all our partners.

1640
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:17,160
And I should know that we're here with you guys today, but we also have conversations regularly with Lion County.

1641
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:23,380
We have conversations with folks in Carson City. You're not alone in how we're doing dealing with this.

1642
02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:29,400
And we've had a lot of conversations with the city of Reno2. So we will continue to work on this. That's one thing I'm hard at it. I don't give up.

1643
02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:35,720
Great and commissioning a drill I I don't really have any questions. I just want to say thank you and I'd be

1644
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:42,480
Remest to not also thank you for bringing back the state fair for everyone's dates June 10 through the 14th

1645
02:10:43,340 --> 02:10:48,220
If I got those dates correct for our member, but I do really want to thank you

1646
02:10:48,220 --> 02:10:55,760
I know that you're doing a lot with pretty much nothing, right in terms of no funding and

1647
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:59,420
And the livestock fees don't necessarily cover everything that you need.

1648
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:04,620
And I think it is a collective effort and thanks to the city of Reno and to everyone who's

1649
02:11:04,620 --> 02:11:09,700
doing what they can to resolve a big situation that's occurring.

1650
02:11:10,380 --> 02:11:11,540
So thank you.

1651
02:11:12,060 --> 02:11:22,380
And I love the nay acronym that's great there, it's a very clever work and I want to get some

1652
02:11:22,380 --> 02:11:24,300
of those flyers out to our communities.

1653
02:11:24,560 --> 02:11:25,200
So that's really great.

1654
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:26,900
we will have those sent over.

1655
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:29,160
Thank you so much, we appreciate your time

1656
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:31,660
and we'll bring up the city of Reno to hear

1657
02:11:31,660 --> 02:11:32,480
about the partnership.

1658
02:11:37,010 --> 02:11:38,510
Good afternoon commissioners for the record,

1659
02:11:38,690 --> 02:11:40,190
Garth Oaksill, with JUB engineers.

1660
02:11:40,930 --> 02:11:43,210
We were hired by the city of Reno to help them out

1661
02:11:43,210 --> 02:11:45,310
a number of years ago with the interaction

1662
02:11:45,310 --> 02:11:47,330
of the wildlife, specifically wild horses

1663
02:11:47,330 --> 02:11:48,410
and the urban environment.

1664
02:11:49,130 --> 02:11:51,150
So going back, like I mentioned, almost five years ago,

1665
02:11:51,250 --> 02:11:52,990
we started having some preliminary conversations

1666
02:11:52,990 --> 02:11:55,830
and at that time it was more of kind of what can we do,

1667
02:11:55,990 --> 02:11:56,790
what needs to be done.

1668
02:11:56,790 --> 02:12:07,850
We recognize that through community growth, both with the city of Reno and Washington County that more developments were coming and some of those developments namely in the south medows area for real rainbow parkway

1669
02:12:07,850 --> 02:12:17,790
We're potentially going to limit access to water to the horses along steamboat creek. So one of the first things we did was took a look at oh yes, is it the next one day? Thank you

1670
02:12:18,650 --> 02:12:26,230
So one of the first things we did is we took a look at how can we maintain access for the public while also keeping horses away from the urban area

1671
02:12:26,230 --> 02:12:33,910
One of the things we really wanted to do in Commissioner or the Vatter Department of Ag mentioned was to kind of reduce that dependence on human compliance.

1672
02:12:34,230 --> 02:12:41,070
Not only legally, we're there out there watering and feeding them, but also just how can we keep the horses in their more natural habitat.

1673
02:12:41,950 --> 02:12:48,390
So we took a look at where we had gaps, if you will, where can we do implementation of wild horse fence?

1674
02:12:48,390 --> 02:12:49,830
We start off with two phases.

1675
02:12:50,130 --> 02:12:52,550
So what I was mentioning there with the water,

1676
02:12:52,830 --> 02:12:54,710
if you can see the red line kind of in the middle

1677
02:12:54,710 --> 02:12:57,190
of the image there, just south, or the bottom,

1678
02:12:57,350 --> 02:12:59,350
where that red line ends, is where some new development

1679
02:12:59,350 --> 02:13:00,450
is being built.

1680
02:13:01,150 --> 02:13:03,370
So we recognize that that was going to be closing off access

1681
02:13:03,370 --> 02:13:03,790
to water.

1682
02:13:04,010 --> 02:13:06,710
So what we did there, and the north end of the project

1683
02:13:06,710 --> 02:13:10,270
is we opened up approximately 3,000 linear feet

1684
02:13:10,270 --> 02:13:12,950
of creek, a steamboat creek, that horses

1685
02:13:12,950 --> 02:13:14,370
can now have access to the water.

1686
02:13:14,710 --> 02:13:16,530
If you're driving on Veterans Parkway there

1687
02:13:16,530 --> 02:13:19,570
and you go up and over the little bridge over Alexander Lake Road

1688
02:13:19,570 --> 02:13:23,590
and you look off to the east, you'll see them there almost all the time during the day.

1689
02:13:24,210 --> 02:13:26,470
So that was an opening that we created as part of this project.

1690
02:13:26,970 --> 02:13:31,150
The fence line, continuing on up north to Mirrolemo, was in very poor condition.

1691
02:13:31,810 --> 02:13:35,610
In my time as the project manager for the Southeast Connector, I walked that entire fence line

1692
02:13:35,610 --> 02:13:38,750
and knew that that fence was in bad condition and renal recognized that.

1693
02:13:38,830 --> 02:13:42,310
So we removed and replaced all of that fence in that location.

1694
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:53,230
And as we move further south, and we get into where the developers are, it doesn't show up very well in this image, but there's a little red dot kind of in the upper right corner, if you will, this image.

1695
02:13:53,790 --> 02:14:04,310
That was a location between two developments that was happening as a drainage ditch, and that was acting as a funnel of the horses were just coming right down to real Wrangler Parkway and getting hit on.

1696
02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:05,930
That's the remote parkway.

1697
02:14:06,230 --> 02:14:10,350
So we closed that off or in the process closing that off here in the next couple of weeks.

1698
02:14:10,830 --> 02:14:16,350
And then as we move further south there, that is around that aggregate pit that you see down there in southeast Reno.

1699
02:14:17,330 --> 02:14:19,370
Again, fence was in various stages of repair.

1700
02:14:19,510 --> 02:14:20,890
We worked with the property owners there.

1701
02:14:21,010 --> 02:14:23,590
It came up with a solution that was good for all parties involved.

1702
02:14:23,890 --> 02:14:26,170
Fenced around the backside of that aggregate pit.

1703
02:14:26,230 --> 02:14:31,110
It came back down around and tied into some of that existing toll-brothers' fencing that has been recently built.

1704
02:14:31,110 --> 02:14:33,750
and they were conditioned to put in as part of their process

1705
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:34,570
with the city of Reno.

1706
02:14:35,390 --> 02:14:37,770
As we move further south, then we get into the Virginia Highlands.

1707
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:40,070
This is the area we're currently working on right now.

1708
02:14:40,770 --> 02:14:43,170
And the green line that you see there is what

1709
02:14:43,170 --> 02:14:46,150
Nevada Department of Ag put in in our meetings with them

1710
02:14:46,150 --> 02:14:49,250
of tying together, where the purple and green meet

1711
02:14:49,250 --> 02:14:52,370
on the right hand side is where we had the conversation

1712
02:14:52,370 --> 02:14:54,790
that this is our common spot to where we can meet up

1713
02:14:54,790 --> 02:14:55,310
in partnership.

1714
02:14:56,350 --> 02:14:58,610
So we're working our way through that we've got your grade.

1715
02:14:58,610 --> 02:14:59,970
we also did.

1716
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,600
We're in agreement with Nevada Department of Transportation to install a caligard on

1717
02:15:04,600 --> 02:15:08,260
Geiger grade in a location that made sense from a public safety standpoint.

1718
02:15:08,460 --> 02:15:13,300
That was a big issue of a concern in there, as far as we need to straighten off section

1719
02:15:13,300 --> 02:15:14,420
of road for a caligard.

1720
02:15:14,540 --> 02:15:18,720
We didn't want to have interactions with motorcycles and issues on caligards there, especially

1721
02:15:18,720 --> 02:15:19,880
as we enter the street vibration.

1722
02:15:20,020 --> 02:15:24,360
Time of year, we know we get a lot of motorcyclists on Geiger grade, so that's why the

1723
02:15:24,360 --> 02:15:27,720
as Commissioner Goguchi, I mentioned, or Director Goguchi,

1724
02:15:28,020 --> 02:15:32,020
excuse me, the kind of corners we put in there,

1725
02:15:32,360 --> 02:15:34,500
that was just a lot of negotiations with different

1726
02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:37,640
property owners, different concerns, different future plans

1727
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:38,640
they had there.

1728
02:15:38,820 --> 02:15:40,760
We unfortunately couldn't do a straight line.

1729
02:15:41,240 --> 02:15:43,440
We did have some property owners that were just unwilling

1730
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:45,740
to put a fence on their property, understandably,

1731
02:15:45,900 --> 02:15:46,780
they like the open space.

1732
02:15:46,900 --> 02:15:49,060
So that is the alignment we ended up with on there.

1733
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:53,460
When all this is complete, the overall goal of eliminating

1734
02:15:54,140 --> 02:15:59,080
opportunities for wild horses, namely, any wild life really, to get into the urban environment.

1735
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:03,480
We hope that this is really rectified that issue and we won't have the issues of the

1736
02:16:03,480 --> 02:16:06,880
number of strikes that were mentioned there on the case in the one year almost one week.

1737
02:16:07,300 --> 02:16:12,040
When you looked at those numbers and averaged them out. So, at that point, I was asked to be brief

1738
02:16:12,040 --> 02:16:16,520
with this. We have a lot more pictures and other things to discuss with this project, but at that

1739
02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:23,440
point I'll conclude my presentation and be happy to answer any questions. We also have a city of

1740
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:29,000
Great. Wow. The city of Reno has been doing a lot of great work. Commissioner Clark. Do you have anything?

1741
02:16:29,580 --> 02:16:33,660
No. Thank you for your report. It's a very informative thank you.

1742
02:16:33,980 --> 02:16:40,640
Thank you, Commissioner Andrew. Commissioner Garcia. Well thank you so much. I know that this is a major concern for

1743
02:16:40,640 --> 02:16:46,860
constituents and Commissioner Clark's district. So hopefully this information was enlightening and we'll continue to

1744
02:16:46,860 --> 02:17:00,100
I'll try to work with the city of Reno and the Department of Ag and see how we can, you know, best collaborate and ensure that we're keeping people safe and also not harming our wildlife so we appreciate it.

1745
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:00,500
Thank you.

1746
02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:01,220
Thank you.

1747
02:17:02,220 --> 02:17:13,940
Okay, we will now move into our consent items and Commissioner Garcia, I was hoping you could point out if you're also comfortable making a motion on consent.

1748
02:17:13,940 --> 02:17:16,940
the donation, we also have in consent.

1749
02:17:17,720 --> 02:17:21,140
Yes, Madam Chair. So the donation item is a 7B1.

1750
02:17:21,140 --> 02:17:27,160
It's a recommendation to approve a cash donation from several sources of $5,681

1751
02:17:27,160 --> 02:17:29,960
for the regional parks and open space programs and facilities.

1752
02:17:31,380 --> 02:17:33,100
And with that, I approve the rest of consent.

1753
02:17:33,380 --> 02:17:34,960
Thank you, and I'm looking for a second.

1754
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:36,820
Second, thank you, Commissioner Hadriel.

1755
02:17:37,060 --> 02:17:39,460
And Madam Clerk is there any public comment on consent?

1756
02:17:39,460 --> 02:17:47,520
There is nobody signed in. Okay, we have a motion in a second. Do any board members have anything that they want to pull or questions on consent

1757
02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:53,580
I'm not seeing anything all those in favor. Please say aye. Aye. Any opposed. Please say aye.

1758
02:17:55,060 --> 02:18:06,980
And that motion passes unanimously. Thank you very much. And our vice chair is not here. So I will take a stab at the block vote and hopefully I can get a second.

1759
02:18:07,740 --> 02:18:21,780
I am going to propose that we block 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, and 15, and looking for a second

1760
02:18:21,780 --> 02:18:22,440
on the block.

1761
02:18:22,640 --> 02:18:22,940
Oh, second.

1762
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:23,680
Thank you.

1763
02:18:23,900 --> 02:18:25,300
Commissioner Andrea Dreola and Madam Clerk.

1764
02:18:25,640 --> 02:18:27,340
Do we have any public comment on those items?

1765
02:18:28,100 --> 02:18:32,220
We have Penny Brock's signed in for item 18, or item 8.

1766
02:18:32,300 --> 02:18:32,440
Sorry.

1767
02:18:32,760 --> 02:18:33,300
Thank you.

1768
02:18:45,310 --> 02:18:45,830
Penny Brock.

1769
02:18:45,830 --> 02:18:54,330
So, we just heard the state of Washington, he finances, you're in the red, it looks like.

1770
02:18:54,930 --> 02:19:03,650
So, on item eight, the CARES campus is asking for almost $600,000 a year.

1771
02:19:06,780 --> 02:19:08,780
They sent out a contract to clean.

1772
02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:12,100
Did they do three RFPs?

1773
02:19:12,100 --> 02:19:24,240
Plus, they're going to get an automatic, that's a three year agreement, then they'll get an automatic one, two, one year renewals.

1774
02:19:26,360 --> 02:19:34,820
Plus, in addition to this, almost 600,000 a year, they can get cost for callbacks.

1775
02:19:34,820 --> 02:19:41,220
So, we, the taxpayers, don't really know how much is being spent to clean the CARES campus.

1776
02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:45,960
We don't know we're not getting a staff report evidently.

1777
02:19:45,980 --> 02:19:51,500
We don't know how many square feet are being cleaned by the CARES campus.

1778
02:19:51,780 --> 02:19:53,620
Does this include the safe camp?

1779
02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:55,700
What does it include?

1780
02:19:56,400 --> 02:19:57,680
We don't know.

1781
02:19:59,000 --> 02:19:59,980
So, in light of the

1782
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:08,520
Budget problem. Perhaps this is an agenda. They're already getting $88 million a year for the homeless.

1783
02:20:11,380 --> 02:20:12,120
Is this included

1784
02:20:12,120 --> 02:20:23,280
in the $88 million or is it over and above the $88 million for the homeless? So as usual, we, the taxpayers,

1785
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:29,880
have got a lot of question about the homeless and the CARES campus. I would ask you that you would table this

1786
02:20:29,880 --> 02:20:32,000
to get additional information, thank you.

1787
02:20:32,240 --> 02:20:32,980
Thank you.

1788
02:20:33,440 --> 02:20:35,040
We have nobody else signed in.

1789
02:20:35,220 --> 02:20:38,320
OK, we have a motion on block and a second.

1790
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:40,460
Any questions from the board on that?

1791
02:20:40,660 --> 02:20:41,420
Seeing none.

1792
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:43,580
All those in favor, please say aye.

1793
02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:45,920
Any opposed, please say nay.

1794
02:20:48,370 --> 02:20:49,870
And it's on your screen.

1795
02:20:55,230 --> 02:20:55,970
Commissioner Clark?

1796
02:20:56,750 --> 02:20:58,810
Yeah, I did the sign in.

1797
02:20:59,510 --> 02:21:02,770
I was right at the end, so I apologize.

1798
02:21:03,390 --> 02:21:04,870
And maybe they cheered and see that.

1799
02:21:06,850 --> 02:21:15,590
to the last public speakers comments, I'm looking at that at number eight as well, and I wish

1800
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:21,950
we had a little bit more time to work with that. Ideally, if I had a magic wand, I would

1801
02:21:21,950 --> 02:21:27,110
take that in-house, have the county manage that, and find some folks that live at the CARES

1802
02:21:27,110 --> 02:21:33,750
campus, and see if anybody wanted to be hired there and make some money and be save us some

1803
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:42,710
I think there's other ways to do this rather than just awarding this massive contract to clean that.

1804
02:21:43,130 --> 02:21:45,990
I think there's some able-bodied folks there who might like a job,

1805
02:21:46,190 --> 02:21:52,010
and I think we should be looking at exploring other opportunities versus just hiring outside contractors.

1806
02:21:52,470 --> 02:21:57,830
Sometimes outside contractors make sense, and other times they may not make sense.

1807
02:21:57,830 --> 02:22:02,210
We've got six or seven, 800 people living at the Harris campus.

1808
02:22:02,970 --> 02:22:05,470
There's got to be 30 or 40 of them that's able body

1809
02:22:05,470 --> 02:22:07,830
who would like to get a job.

1810
02:22:09,110 --> 02:22:12,010
So I would like to see eight pulled from this.

1811
02:22:12,010 --> 02:22:14,330
I'm not going to support this at this point in time.

1812
02:22:14,430 --> 02:22:15,650
Thank you.

1813
02:22:15,770 --> 02:22:16,910
Thank you, Commissioner Clark.

1814
02:22:16,930 --> 02:22:19,050
We have a motion and a second.

1815
02:22:19,770 --> 02:22:24,090
Would you like to hear a little bit of background on this

1816
02:22:24,090 --> 02:22:24,750
from the staff?

1817
02:22:24,750 --> 02:22:27,570
Sure, I think that we do have some other needs.

1818
02:22:27,630 --> 02:22:30,470
My point is still going to stay the same.

1819
02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:34,730
Lots of able-bodied folks there who might actually want to make some money

1820
02:22:34,730 --> 02:22:37,950
versus sitting around doing whatever they do during the day.

1821
02:22:38,370 --> 02:22:39,870
Thank you.

1822
02:22:40,190 --> 02:22:40,390
Welcome.

1823
02:22:41,150 --> 02:22:41,610
Thank you.

1824
02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:44,490
For the record Aaron Smith, CSD operations.

1825
02:22:45,990 --> 02:22:49,630
So this is a award of custodial contract.

1826
02:22:49,630 --> 02:22:54,730
We're handling it as a high security contract, as we do at other facilities.

1827
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:59,310
Currently, the contract is awarded to vendor.

1828
02:23:00,050 --> 02:23:04,090
We don't have those resources in house to do them within facilities.

1829
02:23:05,010 --> 02:23:12,590
But we'd have to talk to operations in order to accommodate any use of our attendees or

1830
02:23:12,590 --> 02:23:18,890
the people at the campuses to clarify this award is going to be for our place, as well as

1831
02:23:19,770 --> 02:23:26,330
Thank you and I think Commissioner Clark brings up an interesting idea. I'm sure it requires

1832
02:23:26,330 --> 02:23:34,250
equipment and probably some legal liability but I mean I think it could be potentially something we look at in the future

1833
02:23:34,250 --> 02:23:39,350
and so Commissioner Clark did you want to add anything?

1834
02:23:39,610 --> 02:23:45,950
Well yeah you know it's it's almost answers its own question.

1835
02:23:45,950 --> 02:23:59,170
We talk about high security cleaning, but these folks are living in this high security situation, so aren't they clear to be there just by virtue of their residency there?

1836
02:23:59,690 --> 02:24:10,710
Do you see where I'm going with this? So we've got high security people to clean this particular environment, but I'm suggesting the folks who already live there should be considered to be hired.

1837
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:17,130
And we've got other county staff or volunteers of America or whoever else we're contracting with.

1838
02:24:17,130 --> 02:24:18,590
They're allowed to be on site.

1839
02:24:18,870 --> 02:24:21,010
This isn't just picking people off the street.

1840
02:24:21,490 --> 02:24:26,270
I'm suggesting we hire folks who actually live there and put them to work.

1841
02:24:27,830 --> 02:24:32,930
And also, we've got other employees there that could probably supervise this to the commissioner.

1842
02:24:33,190 --> 02:24:39,290
Chair's point, we might have to, you know, buy some extra rooms or buffing machines or trash cans or

1843
02:24:39,290 --> 02:24:45,590
same janitorial supplies, but that's that's very small amount compared to this. So again

1844
02:24:47,110 --> 02:24:53,290
I can't support the whole package I support the other items and I know the first and the

1845
02:24:53,290 --> 02:24:59,970
motions been made and it's been seconded, but I'm just opposed to this. Can we get a month the month contract with this

1846
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:09,460
This firm to continue doing what they're doing until we can explore other opportunities and other avenues to do this. That's the question I'm throwing out. Thank you.

1847
02:25:09,920 --> 02:25:18,360
Through the chair to answer the question, so the current vendor is who's recommended for award is the vendor that's currently doing this.

1848
02:25:18,360 --> 02:25:31,180
We can explore a month-to-month ideally we would execute an award a bid for cost savings and to hold the vendor accountable, but we can explore that.

1849
02:25:31,720 --> 02:25:36,180
Well, and it says, you know, we've only had one responsive bidder.

1850
02:25:36,340 --> 02:25:40,340
I mean, this is an opportunity for the county to take this in-house.

1851
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:46,860
Give some job training. Give put some money in some people's pockets, and maybe save a couple of bucks.

1852
02:25:46,860 --> 02:25:50,440
But somebody could get on the payroll and decide

1853
02:25:50,440 --> 02:25:54,080
they actually like to work and when maybe go on

1854
02:25:54,080 --> 02:25:57,220
and become successful and an outside situation.

1855
02:25:57,740 --> 02:26:00,080
But giving people an opportunity to work,

1856
02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:03,680
and guarantee there's a small percentage of folks

1857
02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:06,500
that may not want to be involved in this at all,

1858
02:26:06,500 --> 02:26:08,540
but they're probably a percentage of the folks

1859
02:26:08,540 --> 02:26:11,840
that live there who would welcome an opportunity to work

1860
02:26:11,840 --> 02:26:12,980
in the place where they live.

1861
02:26:13,140 --> 02:26:14,100
So that's what I'm suggesting.

1862
02:26:14,780 --> 02:26:15,440
Thank you.

1863
02:26:15,440 --> 02:26:20,660
Well, thank you for the background information and you work on this.

1864
02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:24,400
You know, per our rules, we've got a motion, we've got a second.

1865
02:26:24,900 --> 02:26:28,320
Let's see if we can move forward with this.

1866
02:26:28,360 --> 02:26:30,800
If we can't, we'll have a discussion on that.

1867
02:26:31,520 --> 02:26:35,380
But then we'll go from there and I think Commissioner Clark,

1868
02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:41,480
this is something that I'm sure the team at homeless services

1869
02:26:41,480 --> 02:26:43,480
would be happy to sit down and chat with you about.

1870
02:26:43,480 --> 02:26:50,960
I just toured the CARES campus with the city of Salt Lake City.

1871
02:26:51,100 --> 02:26:55,040
No, the city of South Salt Lake City yesterday,

1872
02:26:56,180 --> 02:26:59,240
and we still have a significant portion of the people

1873
02:26:59,240 --> 02:27:01,880
who live there that are disabled and seniors,

1874
02:27:02,880 --> 02:27:04,380
but certainly an interesting concept.

1875
02:27:04,760 --> 02:27:08,200
So we have a motion and a second on the block.

1876
02:27:09,160 --> 02:27:11,520
Any other questions or comments from board members?

1877
02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:11,540
Thanks.

1878
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:13,060
Seeing none.

1879
02:27:13,220 --> 02:27:13,820
All those in favor?

1880
02:27:14,140 --> 02:27:14,820
Please say aye.

1881
02:27:15,460 --> 02:27:16,060
Any opposed?

1882
02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:16,820
Please say nay.

1883
02:27:17,560 --> 02:27:19,200
Thank you.

1884
02:27:25,820 --> 02:27:27,460
The motion passed three to one.

1885
02:27:27,480 --> 02:27:28,640
Thank you, Madam Clerk.

1886
02:27:28,780 --> 02:27:29,700
I appreciate that.

1887
02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:30,460
Okay.

1888
02:27:32,120 --> 02:27:34,000
We are now going to move.

1889
02:27:34,400 --> 02:27:41,080
And so just to keep folks to to help folks understand the agenda.

1890
02:27:41,260 --> 02:27:47,480
We're going to go into item 11 and then we'll take a brief lunch break and come back

1891
02:27:47,480 --> 02:27:51,460
for our public hearing that I know a lot of folks are in the audience or waiting online

1892
02:27:51,460 --> 02:27:52,460
to hear.

1893
02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:55,920
So, Mr. Slayer, if you can help us with item 11.

1894
02:27:56,160 --> 02:27:56,380
Sure.

1895
02:27:56,460 --> 02:28:00,640
Item 11 is a recommendation to approve the appointment of one candidate to fill a partial

1896
02:28:00,640 --> 02:28:05,460
term beginning on the date of appointment and ending on June 30th, 2027 for the Washington

1897
02:28:05,460 --> 02:28:07,940
E. Open Space and Regional Parks Commission.

1898
02:28:08,880 --> 02:28:11,900
And Ms. Wilson is here to walk you through this item.

1899
02:28:15,180 --> 02:28:18,060
Good afternoon, members of the commission, Chair Hill.

1900
02:28:18,980 --> 02:28:21,860
This item is for a partial appointment for the Parks Commission.

1901
02:28:22,060 --> 02:28:26,300
You have 25 candidates in front of you of which you'll select your top three.

1902
02:28:26,660 --> 02:28:30,140
Then from there, if we have a clear winner, we will vote on that.

1903
02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:32,460
However, we can go into subsequent voting if needed.

1904
02:28:32,840 --> 02:28:34,200
Thank you so much.

1905
02:28:35,920 --> 02:28:37,800
Of course, we can do public comment.

1906
02:28:38,380 --> 02:28:39,680
Yes, absolutely.

1907
02:28:40,020 --> 02:28:40,400
Of course.

1908
02:28:40,400 --> 02:28:44,600
And Madam Clerk, if you can help us with some public comment.

1909
02:28:45,480 --> 02:28:49,960
First up, we have George Jostlin, followed by Austin Lorenz.

1910
02:28:56,450 --> 02:28:57,910
Good afternoon, everyone.

1911
02:28:59,270 --> 02:29:05,250
Originally, I had good morning, but a little longer than I had expected.

1912
02:29:06,010 --> 02:29:07,750
My name is George Jostlin.

1913
02:29:07,770 --> 02:29:12,230
I want to thank you for allowing me to stand before you and share my interest

1914
02:29:12,230 --> 02:29:17,390
in filling the open position for the regional parks and open space board.

1915
02:29:18,230 --> 02:29:24,510
I have had the great pleasure of living here since January of 2007 when I accept their

1916
02:29:24,510 --> 02:29:29,710
promotion to become the regional director of government and fairs and public relations

1917
02:29:29,710 --> 02:29:31,290
for charter communications.

1918
02:29:31,750 --> 02:29:33,290
Don't hold that against me.

1919
02:29:33,870 --> 02:29:39,830
Reporting directly to Mani Martinez with a dotted line to your former colleague, Marsha

1920
02:29:43,190 --> 02:29:51,270
I am an avid sportsman. I've played baseball, bowling, hockey, running, and, of course,

1921
02:29:51,490 --> 02:29:59,570
golf throughout my life. I grew up in upstate New York when the college and

1922
02:29:59,570 --> 02:29:59,970
the play.

1923
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:10,960
Major of living in Southern California for over 20 years. Having lived here for the past 18 years, I've come to love Northern Nevada, the giants,

1924
02:30:10,960 --> 02:30:18,820
Cipe and Crook, Hall of Famer John Miller, our beloved Aces, and of course, the Silver and

1925
02:30:18,820 --> 02:30:19,080
Blue.

1926
02:30:20,180 --> 02:30:27,100
Additionally, I'm a proud Silver Circle member for a beloved PBS Reno, although I still

1927
02:30:27,100 --> 02:30:32,940
call it K&PB, and Count station manager Kurt Messia is one of my good friends.

1928
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:39,560
With regards to my role on the board, I believe it is important to protect the open beauty

1929
02:30:39,560 --> 02:30:47,160
we call Northern Nevada. However, while understanding the need to support growth, I believe we need

1930
02:30:47,160 --> 02:30:53,420
to do it in a controlled manner so that we don't lose the beauty of our area and why we all live

1931
02:30:53,420 --> 02:31:00,440
here. Keeping our current and future facilities stay to the art will also help with that growth.

1932
02:31:01,520 --> 02:31:08,760
Having recently retired, I now have the time and felt the urge to serve my county and my neighbors,

1933
02:31:08,760 --> 02:31:14,840
which is why I have placed my name into consideration and I stand here before you today.

1934
02:31:15,540 --> 02:31:21,140
I thank you for your time and rarely am I under the time I'm all outed.

1935
02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:21,960
Thank you.

1936
02:31:22,040 --> 02:31:23,700
Thank you very much.

1937
02:31:24,140 --> 02:31:27,500
Austin Lorenz followed by Jennifer Uvira.

1938
02:31:40,030 --> 02:31:40,530
Thank you commissioners.

1939
02:31:41,130 --> 02:31:45,930
It's great to be here today and to be considered for the open space and regional parks commission.

1940
02:31:47,670 --> 02:31:50,190
It's an honor to be among some great candidates.

1941
02:31:51,250 --> 02:31:53,690
I wanted to share a little bit about myself,

1942
02:31:54,910 --> 02:31:57,050
and why I want to join the board when I can bring to it.

1943
02:31:57,830 --> 02:32:00,090
I remember when I first decided to move to Washow County.

1944
02:32:00,290 --> 02:32:04,050
I was hiking down at Mammoth Lakes and I met a doctor there,

1945
02:32:04,810 --> 02:32:06,830
and we were talking about recreation,

1946
02:32:07,070 --> 02:32:10,830
and he told me about how Washow County was a secret gem

1947
02:32:10,830 --> 02:32:14,150
that had almost every recreation opportunity that you could imagine

1948
02:32:14,150 --> 02:32:19,570
nearly a year around. And from then on, I knew that I wanted to move here.

1949
02:32:20,570 --> 02:32:26,430
When the time came, my wife was looking for PhD programs, and she chose UNR. And when

1950
02:32:26,430 --> 02:32:30,890
she graduated, we decided to stay here and raise our family here because of the outdoor

1951
02:32:30,890 --> 02:32:36,550
recreation opportunities. Professionally, I'm a scientist. I specialize in spatial analysis,

1952
02:32:37,830 --> 02:32:41,550
and have worked for the last eight years as a civil servant with the USGS.

1953
02:32:41,550 --> 02:32:48,470
Over my work focuses on wildlife conservation, improving hunting and recreation and wildlife

1954
02:32:48,470 --> 02:32:52,970
on wildlife refugees and other public lands. In that role, I've discovered a passion for

1955
02:32:52,970 --> 02:32:58,630
brain diverse groups together to seek common sense solutions. I'll work with everyone from

1956
02:32:58,630 --> 02:33:04,030
private landowners, NGOs, state, federal governments, and international governments.

1957
02:33:04,910 --> 02:33:09,430
Science is not what you just see data as an opportunity. Through that lens, I see many opportunities

1958
02:33:09,430 --> 02:33:13,450
to bring new voices, people, and funding to our parks and open spaces.

1959
02:33:14,330 --> 02:33:17,430
And preparing for this meeting, I set out on some wonderful examples across the country

1960
02:33:17,430 --> 02:33:21,450
to keep recreation high and improve revenues for our parks and open spaces.

1961
02:33:22,770 --> 02:33:26,310
It has been an honor to serve, it would be an honor to serve on this committee and share my

1962
02:33:26,310 --> 02:33:31,070
expertise as an outdoor enthusiast, parent, and a scientist, and to support all the people

1963
02:33:31,070 --> 02:33:34,550
of Washington County and enjoy our parks and open spaces.

1964
02:33:34,930 --> 02:33:35,470
Thank you.

1965
02:33:35,470 --> 02:33:40,710
Thank you. Jennifer Yuvira, followed by Matthew Daymartini.

1966
02:33:51,250 --> 02:33:57,670
Hello. Good morning. Chair Hill and commissioners. My name is Jennifer Yuvira, and I'm

1967
02:33:57,670 --> 02:34:02,290
applying for the Open Seat on the Washow County, Open Spaces and Regional Parks Commission.

1968
02:34:02,910 --> 02:34:07,890
I'm honored to have the opportunity to share a little bit about myself and why I'm seeking to

1969
02:34:07,890 --> 02:34:13,050
serve on this board. Though my background is an environmental engineering, I made a career transition

1970
02:34:13,050 --> 02:34:15,130
and to start running clean up the lake.

1971
02:34:15,750 --> 02:34:18,290
A lake Tahoe based on profit that scuba dives

1972
02:34:18,290 --> 02:34:19,630
to collect submerged litter.

1973
02:34:20,050 --> 02:34:23,690
In other words, I am now a glorified underwater trash collector.

1974
02:34:25,070 --> 02:34:27,490
In this role, I utilize my skills

1975
02:34:27,490 --> 02:34:30,110
in project management, community engagement,

1976
02:34:30,570 --> 02:34:31,930
and technical problem solving.

1977
02:34:32,650 --> 02:34:35,810
My work has involved coordinating large teams of volunteers,

1978
02:34:36,630 --> 02:34:38,410
fostering partnerships with local governments

1979
02:34:38,410 --> 02:34:41,690
and businesses and ensuring projects are carried through.

1980
02:34:41,690 --> 02:34:43,630
from planning to completion.

1981
02:34:44,790 --> 02:34:49,430
These experience have strengths and strength and my ability to balance long-term vision

1982
02:34:49,430 --> 02:34:51,090
with data data details.

1983
02:34:51,450 --> 02:34:54,350
Skills I believe would directly benefit this commission's work.

1984
02:34:55,050 --> 02:34:58,870
I know this commission is already tackling important initiatives, including the Trucking

1985
02:34:58,870 --> 02:34:59,730
Meadows Trail Plan.

1986
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:06,760
The open space and natural resources management plan and the park district exploration. This one

1987
02:35:06,760 --> 02:35:12,160
especially resonates with me because I've seen how long-term planning and dedicated funding can

1988
02:35:12,160 --> 02:35:18,220
make or break a community's ability to care for its natural spaces. It structured well, a park

1989
02:35:18,220 --> 02:35:24,580
district could provide sustainable support for trails, facilities, and conservation, while giving

1990
02:35:24,580 --> 02:35:29,360
residents a stronger voice and how their resources are managed, sorry.

1991
02:35:30,680 --> 02:35:36,720
If elected, one area I would like to focus on is expanding youth engagement in our

1992
02:35:36,720 --> 02:35:37,200
parks.

1993
02:35:37,380 --> 02:35:40,680
Education is the only way to create real lasting change.

1994
02:35:41,140 --> 02:35:45,700
When young people are given the tools and opportunities to connect with nature, they don't

1995
02:35:45,700 --> 02:35:47,160
just participate in programs.

1996
02:35:47,620 --> 02:35:51,120
They develop a sense of ownership and responsibility to those open spaces.

1997
02:35:52,180 --> 02:35:58,740
I have first hand, I've seen this first hand in DAO, how students in young volunteers light up

1998
02:35:58,740 --> 02:36:03,120
when they get the opportunity to dive, to hike, to take part, and hands-on stewardship.

1999
02:36:04,040 --> 02:36:08,860
By fostering these relationships early, we can inspire long life-long stewards and ensure

2000
02:36:08,860 --> 02:36:14,420
that the values of conservation and community carry forward for future generations to come.

2001
02:36:15,100 --> 02:36:19,760
Thank you commissioner, thank you chairhill and commissioners for your leadership and for encouraging

2002
02:36:19,760 --> 02:36:25,220
my perspective. I would be grateful for the opportunity to bring my background energy and commitment

2003
02:36:25,220 --> 02:36:29,580
to this board in the service of the Washow County's open ceases and parks.

2004
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:33,440
Thank you. Matthew Day, Martinie.

2005
02:36:47,410 --> 02:36:49,930
Good afternoon, madam chair and commissioners.

2006
02:36:51,190 --> 02:36:55,830
I'm one of the applicants for the Washow County Open Space and Regional Parks Commission. My name is

2007
02:36:55,830 --> 02:36:59,330
Matthew D. Martini, just a brief background.

2008
02:37:00,070 --> 02:37:03,830
I've been a Washow County resident for over 40 years

2009
02:37:03,830 --> 02:37:08,730
all my life. I currently live in District 3.

2010
02:37:10,210 --> 02:37:14,170
I work for a local engineering company here in town.

2011
02:37:15,530 --> 02:37:17,290
On my free time, I'm a runner.

2012
02:37:18,750 --> 02:37:23,210
And so I'm out there running 40 miles a week in the community.

2013
02:37:23,210 --> 02:37:28,590
It's been a lot of time in the open space and parks and so forth.

2014
02:37:29,530 --> 02:37:35,130
But I also realize that the parks and open spaces that we have here in this community are

2015
02:37:35,130 --> 02:37:40,470
not just the trails, but they're also some great historical and cultural resources that

2016
02:37:40,470 --> 02:37:41,370
they provide.

2017
02:37:42,530 --> 02:37:52,310
And I think I align kind of with the mission of the Parks Commission in preserving and making

2018
02:37:52,310 --> 02:37:56,930
those resources available to all community members

2019
02:37:56,930 --> 02:38:00,670
and some of the just great resources that we have.

2020
02:38:02,410 --> 02:38:07,750
I recently did in the 2024 cycle ran for the City of Reno City Council.

2021
02:38:08,790 --> 02:38:11,770
So as part of that I got to get out in the community

2022
02:38:11,770 --> 02:38:16,330
and really talk with thousands of members

2023
02:38:16,330 --> 02:38:21,010
of the community or interact with and see kind of,

2024
02:38:21,010 --> 02:38:27,370
realize just how important our parks and open spaces are to members of the community and access to this.

2025
02:38:29,350 --> 02:38:35,850
So I think I'd be a good fit for the commission and thank you for the time and if there's any questions,

2026
02:38:36,150 --> 02:38:42,570
I'm happy to answer that. Thank you. We have nobody else signed in. Do have emails to be placed on the record.

2027
02:38:42,850 --> 02:38:50,010
Thank you, Madam Clerk. And so we are being asked to choose our top three and what a difficult decision

2028
02:38:50,010 --> 02:38:56,350
this is going to be for this board. I mean it's such a bummer we have amazing people

2029
02:38:56,350 --> 02:39:02,370
applying for this. So thank you. Do you have a question? This staff report didn't list

2030
02:39:02,370 --> 02:39:10,690
what districts are in the existing appointees and I'm wondering if there's any districts that

2031
02:39:10,690 --> 02:39:16,670
aren't being represented. I couldn't find that. Ms Wilson, not to put you on the spot. I don't know

2032
02:39:16,670 --> 02:39:17,850
if you know that information.

2033
02:39:19,010 --> 02:39:20,470
No worries, Alexandra Wilson for the record.

2034
02:39:20,710 --> 02:39:24,010
I don't have the information rarely available in front of me at the moment.

2035
02:39:24,670 --> 02:39:28,530
However, for the Washow County Open Space and Regional Parks, it is not district specific.

2036
02:39:29,430 --> 02:39:34,430
Although, in speaking with our director for our community services department,

2037
02:39:34,670 --> 02:39:36,370
they do try to get a good mix of the district.

2038
02:39:37,010 --> 02:39:39,850
So while you're voting, I can pull those and I can send those to you guys.

2039
02:39:39,850 --> 02:39:49,370
Thank you, and maybe just for the future we have that listed just so if that's something weighing on, you know,

2040
02:39:49,470 --> 02:39:52,770
I'm sure is mine is when looking at these applicants go ahead.

2041
02:39:52,930 --> 02:39:55,430
I appreciate that.

2042
02:39:55,850 --> 02:39:59,770
I do know just in looking at this before that Mark Newman,

2043
02:40:07,960 --> 02:40:08,640
Okay,

2044
02:40:12,920 --> 02:40:21,120
thank you very much. Any other commissioner comments before we get this ballad in? Thank you, Miss Wilson. Okay, thank you everyone.

2045
02:40:21,120 --> 02:40:22,280
Okay,

2046
02:40:55,450 --> 02:40:57,050
for round one,

2047
02:41:01,070 --> 02:41:06,770
Commissioner Garcia voted for Austin Lorenz, Jennifer Uvira,

2048
02:41:07,930 --> 02:41:09,390
and Sophia Hydric,

2049
02:41:13,320 --> 02:41:19,300
chair Hill voted for Austin Lorenz, Jennifer Uvira, and Bo Walker,

2050
02:41:24,080 --> 02:41:30,920
Commissioner Andriola voted for Matthew Damartini, Bo Walker, and John Henderson,

2051
02:41:30,920 --> 02:41:31,840
and

2052
02:41:34,750 --> 02:41:40,710
Commissioner Clark voted for Jennifer Yvira, John Henderson, and George Jostlin.

2053
02:41:43,350 --> 02:41:51,590
Okay. I see three votes for Jennifer Yvira, am I correct, Madam Clerk? Okay.

2054
02:41:53,170 --> 02:41:58,050
If the board is ready, I'm looking for a motion on Ms. Yvira.

2055
02:41:58,670 --> 02:41:59,710
I'm trying to move to approve.

2056
02:41:59,930 --> 02:42:02,930
Thank you very much, Commissioner Garcia, and I'll second that.

2057
02:42:02,930 --> 02:42:05,570
Any questions or comments on the motion from the board?

2058
02:42:05,930 --> 02:42:07,930
Seeing none, all those in favor, please say aye.

2059
02:42:08,790 --> 02:42:10,190
Any opposed, please say nay.

2060
02:42:14,920 --> 02:42:16,220
And that motion passes unanimously.

2061
02:42:16,580 --> 02:42:18,320
Congratulations, Ms. Yvara.

2062
02:42:18,620 --> 02:42:21,380
And honestly, what an incredible group of candidates,

2063
02:42:21,560 --> 02:42:25,520
please continue to apply for opportunities at Washow County.

2064
02:42:25,760 --> 02:42:29,660
We really are so lucky to have such talented people in our community.

2065
02:42:29,920 --> 02:42:36,940
And there are many boards and cabs, citizen advisory boards,

2066
02:42:36,940 --> 02:42:43,740
just please stay involved as well as our leadership academy. So what we are going to do is take a,

2067
02:42:44,560 --> 02:42:53,780
I'm going to give us a half hour break. We will come back at 115 and we'll go, we'll do our

2068
02:42:53,780 --> 02:42:57,760
public hearing item 16. Thank you everyone and we'll see you in a few.

2069
03:17:15,460 --> 03:17:38,780
Good afternoon. Good afternoon. I will call this Board Accounting Commissioner's meeting to order. It is a 118. We are now moving forward with our public hearing and if Madam Clerk could help us with this and I don't know if you have to read every single piece on this long agenda item. Here you go.

2070
03:17:38,780 --> 03:17:41,040
This is the second reading.

2071
03:17:41,440 --> 03:17:44,320
This will be ordinance number 1743.

2072
03:17:45,760 --> 03:17:47,040
A men's wash-of-counting code,

2073
03:17:47,180 --> 03:17:49,240
chapter 110, development code,

2074
03:17:49,360 --> 03:17:51,860
to update article 220, Tahoe area,

2075
03:17:52,220 --> 03:17:55,800
and article 220.1, Tahoe area design standards.

2076
03:17:56,080 --> 03:17:58,800
This was formerly bill number 1934.

2077
03:18:00,060 --> 03:18:01,980
Thank you very much, Manil Kirk.

2078
03:18:02,780 --> 03:18:08,260
And if we could have a brief staff report on this item,

2079
03:18:10,740 --> 03:18:12,520
Welcome, is Oakley.

2080
03:18:14,380 --> 03:18:21,000
I have a brief version of this if you would like that and then if there are any questions,

2081
03:18:21,180 --> 03:18:22,780
of course I can go to more detail on any topic.

2082
03:18:23,120 --> 03:18:23,840
That sounds great.

2083
03:18:24,260 --> 03:18:24,280
Okay.

2084
03:18:25,100 --> 03:18:32,500
So this is the 2025 Tahoe area plan update and it does contain two different items.

2085
03:18:33,640 --> 03:18:36,240
Application types that you will be considering action on today.

2086
03:18:36,240 --> 03:18:38,760
So first is that second reading and potential adoption

2087
03:18:38,760 --> 03:18:40,180
of a development code amendment.

2088
03:18:40,900 --> 03:18:44,320
That is the most substantial part of this area plan update.

2089
03:18:44,600 --> 03:18:47,120
But there is also an associated master plan amendment.

2090
03:18:47,740 --> 03:18:51,180
That's making text changes to the Tahoe area plan,

2091
03:18:51,360 --> 03:18:53,560
which is the master plan for Washow Tahoe.

2092
03:18:54,380 --> 03:18:58,160
That NPA and the development code amendment

2093
03:18:58,160 --> 03:19:00,520
both have been approved by the Planning Commission,

2094
03:19:00,680 --> 03:19:04,120
which is why they have come over across your guys' desk.

2095
03:19:04,120 --> 03:19:11,660
So, to provide some highlights of what's included, one of the most significant elements of

2096
03:19:11,660 --> 03:19:17,560
this update is the Tahoe Regional Plenty Agency or TRPA Phase 2 housing amendments.

2097
03:19:18,600 --> 03:19:23,840
And what those are are incentives for affordable moderate and attainable housing targeted

2098
03:19:23,840 --> 03:19:29,140
at town centers, which is basically your downtown kind of incline village area, and then

2099
03:19:29,140 --> 03:19:32,840
So similarly in Crystal Bay, and then also areas

2100
03:19:32,840 --> 03:19:34,320
zone for multi-family.

2101
03:19:36,100 --> 03:19:40,560
These amendments were adopted by TRPA in 2023,

2102
03:19:40,920 --> 03:19:44,140
and when they adopted them, they adopted them

2103
03:19:44,140 --> 03:19:45,800
as a mandate to the local jurisdiction.

2104
03:19:46,600 --> 03:19:48,860
So what they said at the time is, we've

2105
03:19:48,860 --> 03:19:51,240
adopted these incentives, local jurisdictions

2106
03:19:51,240 --> 03:19:55,700
by the end of next year, either adopted them as we've

2107
03:19:55,700 --> 03:19:57,380
written them, the incentives that we've created,

2108
03:19:57,380 --> 03:19:59,980
or you can propose an alternative that

2109
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:07,760
But you can demonstrate, has an equal or greater effect on essentially decreasing the cost of building data shifted housing.

2110
03:20:08,740 --> 03:20:14,760
And so, this is a piece, but not all of this area plan update. We did quite a bit of public outreach.

2111
03:20:15,520 --> 03:20:24,960
This is the topic we heard the most about. And so, we did explore an alternative with TRPA to adulterative to these phase two amendments.

2112
03:20:25,640 --> 03:20:31,080
Ultimately, we received feedback that that alternative would not be accepted because it

2113
03:20:31,080 --> 03:20:37,080
didn't demonstrate that kind of really financial standard of lowering the cost of affordable

2114
03:20:37,080 --> 03:20:43,080
housing. And so those amendments essentially as written are what is included in this

2115
03:20:43,080 --> 03:20:50,120
package. Now I do want to just highlight that we did to the extent that we could add some

2116
03:20:50,120 --> 03:20:56,020
things in to our code package to address the concerns that we did here, again, to the extent

2117
03:20:56,020 --> 03:20:56,420
that we could.

2118
03:20:56,740 --> 03:21:03,920
And so the big thing to mention in that realm is creating a process and standards for review

2119
03:21:03,920 --> 03:21:09,000
of a parking analysis to request a parking reduction and making it very clear that we

2120
03:21:09,000 --> 03:21:13,400
wash a county have the authority to approve or not approve that request.

2121
03:21:13,740 --> 03:21:18,440
And so that's something important that we added as part of the overall package.

2122
03:21:18,440 --> 03:21:22,000
And there are other development code amendments included in this package.

2123
03:21:22,200 --> 03:21:27,680
There are some cleanups that were in Proofins that we've identified since the adoption

2124
03:21:27,680 --> 03:21:32,220
of the Tahoe Area Planning 2021 that we want to take this opportunity to make, and also

2125
03:21:32,220 --> 03:21:35,600
a proposed change to expand allowances for accessory dwelling units.

2126
03:21:35,680 --> 03:21:38,380
So those are kind of highlights of what is included.

2127
03:21:40,260 --> 03:21:47,540
I do want to just address as well that the fees to amendments and all the amendments in

2128
03:21:47,540 --> 03:21:52,940
In fact, if they don't impact TRPA's growth management system, and that is their system of development

2129
03:21:52,940 --> 03:21:57,060
rights that requires that, basically, anybody constructing any sort of housing unit or

2130
03:21:57,060 --> 03:22:02,020
other type of construction has a development right to build that unit, and there is a limited

2131
03:22:02,020 --> 03:22:03,180
number of those.

2132
03:22:03,500 --> 03:22:08,540
And that number, the number of total units that can be built in the Tahoe Basin, it's not changing.

2133
03:22:09,920 --> 03:22:15,400
The intent of these incentives is to direct that development to the extent possible to be

2134
03:22:15,400 --> 03:22:19,340
and to address the affordable housing issue in the basin.

2135
03:22:19,560 --> 03:22:23,960
And so that is something that is not changing with these amendments.

2136
03:22:27,680 --> 03:22:32,840
And I do also just want to mention that this is one of those prioritized items

2137
03:22:32,840 --> 03:22:37,980
that the board kind of listed for us to get to work on.

2138
03:22:38,080 --> 03:22:41,260
So this is one of those items and it's before you today for a decision.

2139
03:22:41,260 --> 03:22:43,080
So those are kind of the highlights.

2140
03:22:44,060 --> 03:22:47,700
We can talk about the last thing I'll mention is,

2141
03:22:47,700 --> 03:22:51,740
since it is a mandate from TRPA, they've kind of said,

2142
03:22:52,500 --> 03:22:55,940
you know, you can adopt these.

2143
03:22:56,060 --> 03:22:58,000
And if you don't do so by a certain date,

2144
03:22:58,160 --> 03:23:00,680
we TRPA have the power to adopt them for you.

2145
03:23:01,400 --> 03:23:02,300
We are past that date.

2146
03:23:02,420 --> 03:23:03,500
They've been working with us because we

2147
03:23:03,500 --> 03:23:08,280
have been working towards adopting these phase 2 housing amendments.

2148
03:23:08,280 --> 03:23:18,320
But I do want to mention that if we don't or are not making progress in that direction, they do have the authority to adopt them for us at that regional level.

2149
03:23:18,960 --> 03:23:20,220
So it's something to keep in mind.

2150
03:23:20,860 --> 03:23:24,360
And that's that's the short of it. So I'm happy to answer any questions you have at the same.

2151
03:23:24,860 --> 03:23:26,520
Thank you so much, Ms. Oakley.

2152
03:23:26,600 --> 03:23:37,940
And I wanted to commend you because we received a lot of public comment giving you accolades for listening to the community and trying to incorporate

2153
03:23:37,940 --> 03:23:43,400
community concerns as part of this package and I still think that parking

2154
03:23:44,500 --> 03:23:48,960
allowance and ensuring that Washington County has the final sign

2155
03:23:48,960 --> 03:23:54,540
off as a win as well. So I just wanted to say thank you for really digging

2156
03:23:54,540 --> 03:23:59,840
in and doing so much work on this project. I will start with Commissioner Garcia

2157
03:23:59,840 --> 03:24:03,600
see if you have any questions. Commissioner Andrea Drilla and Commissioner

2158
03:24:03,600 --> 03:24:10,360
Okay, thank you for that, and now Madam Clerk, I'd love to hear from our public commenters.

2159
03:24:11,020 --> 03:24:15,260
First up, we have Jack Dalton, followed by Stephen Dolan.

2160
03:24:32,850 --> 03:24:39,010
Jack Dalton, Enclined Rosenford 10 years, 11 years, and this has been a long morning.

2161
03:24:40,250 --> 03:24:48,570
And the part that I am opposed to, in a strong way, that it has to do with incline,

2162
03:24:49,170 --> 03:24:57,950
vis-à-vis the vertical sprawl, and vis-à-vis the evacuation, and vis-à-vis the affordable housing,

2163
03:24:58,330 --> 03:24:59,790
which doesn't exist in this.

2164
03:25:00,720 --> 03:25:12,480
So let's first start, let's first start about affordable housing. I have a house, big house. I don't need that. I can put up an ADU.

2165
03:25:13,460 --> 03:25:21,860
Well, I can live in the ADU and I'll live out there, but then I can make an STR of my house. That's done, but that's going to be permitted.

2166
03:25:21,860 --> 03:25:32,620
I wanted an ADU that is STR of prohibit STRs, and that's not what you're doing.

2167
03:25:32,960 --> 03:25:34,860
The place is already overpacked.

2168
03:25:34,960 --> 03:25:36,420
You should take a look at the summer.

2169
03:25:37,780 --> 03:25:41,560
It happens in the summer of the population.

2170
03:25:42,360 --> 03:25:47,780
None of the evacuations have talked to yet about the summer population, which is huge.

2171
03:25:48,740 --> 03:25:49,920
So how are we going to get out?

2172
03:25:49,920 --> 03:25:51,540
We're not going to get out.

2173
03:25:52,240 --> 03:25:55,840
This is a very challenged area, as far as evacuation.

2174
03:25:56,740 --> 03:25:58,060
You're not going to be able to do it.

2175
03:25:58,220 --> 03:25:59,860
The town is already packed.

2176
03:26:00,180 --> 03:26:01,000
You've got to go through.

2177
03:26:01,440 --> 03:26:03,840
And you should see in the summer, go to Crystal Bay.

2178
03:26:04,480 --> 03:26:07,620
You can't get out of the half hour to get out of Crystal Bay on a summer.

2179
03:26:10,000 --> 03:26:14,600
There was a very nice opinion article, the Reno Gazette.

2180
03:26:14,600 --> 03:26:23,600
I was by Pamela, I'm sorry, but I know she's here, but I pronounce it wrong, but at any rate,

2181
03:26:23,840 --> 03:26:32,080
how many people have come here each year, 15 million vehicle traffic, 75% are out of the

2182
03:26:32,080 --> 03:26:39,740
base. So that's not going to be. Now let's talk about, let's talk about people that live there.

2183
03:26:39,740 --> 03:26:53,840
The homeowners insurance and one of the condominiums has increased $8,000 in the last three years, so there's people moving out because of that.

2184
03:26:53,900 --> 03:26:58,240
This isn't going to address any of that kind of stuff. Now let's talk about the fire.

2185
03:26:58,940 --> 03:27:08,680
Well, we don't have the U.S. Forest Service five days ago, since there were 350 lightning strikes,

2186
03:27:08,900 --> 03:27:09,560
eight fires.

2187
03:27:10,480 --> 03:27:14,840
And the last fire that we had over here came pretty close to going over the mountain.

2188
03:27:14,880 --> 03:27:16,260
If it goes over the mountain, we're going.

2189
03:27:16,860 --> 03:27:25,640
So I'm opposing any of the stuff that has to do currently with employment and personal

2190
03:27:25,640 --> 03:27:25,940
bay.

2191
03:27:26,080 --> 03:27:26,500
Thank you.

2192
03:27:26,500 --> 03:27:31,820
Thank you. Steven Dolan, followed by Roxanna Dunne.

2193
03:27:43,000 --> 03:27:48,160
Thank you Commissioner Hill, Chair, and other commissioners.

2194
03:27:48,360 --> 03:27:49,820
I appreciate the opportunity.

2195
03:27:50,620 --> 03:27:54,160
I'll pick up kind of where I left off this morning.

2196
03:27:55,260 --> 03:28:06,600
I'll remind the group that according to the insurance industry analysis of the fire in Oakland,

2197
03:28:06,600 --> 03:28:15,660
that it was caused and created by high-density housing on narrow hillside streets, and that

2198
03:28:15,660 --> 03:28:20,680
is a definition of incline village, and Crystal Bay, and most of the communities around

2199
03:28:20,680 --> 03:28:22,400
the lake for that matter.

2200
03:28:25,400 --> 03:28:27,680
TRPA is big in this,

2201
03:28:29,700 --> 03:28:36,500
and as an alternate on the board of governors and as a member of the board

2202
03:28:36,500 --> 03:28:42,460
of governors for the T.R.P.A., I'm sure you understand these terms better than most,

2203
03:28:43,520 --> 03:28:45,580
but they are manipulative terms.

2204
03:28:47,100 --> 03:28:49,500
The first one that's the toughest is continuity.

2205
03:28:50,440 --> 03:28:56,760
That's one that usually starts in California and works its way around until our 80 use

2206
03:28:56,760 --> 03:28:59,240
are changed in Nevada.

2207
03:29:00,880 --> 03:29:01,820
Workforce housing.

2208
03:29:01,820 --> 03:29:09,920
real great buzzword, really doesn't get applied to in an appropriate way within

2209
03:29:09,920 --> 03:29:20,400
these rules that you're being asked to authorize change for. The others and the

2210
03:29:20,400 --> 03:29:27,320
most absurdly defined is achievable housing. This is not low-income housing. You

2211
03:29:27,320 --> 03:29:34,720
have heard all the chatter about what it really is on the boards for the TRPA. You know what it is

2212
03:29:34,720 --> 03:29:43,620
and how it really doesn't approach anywhere near taking care of housing for people who earn

2213
03:29:43,620 --> 03:29:44,540
very little money.

2214
03:29:49,060 --> 03:29:54,440
So it really is the changes you're making are actually going to kill

2215
03:29:54,440 --> 03:29:59,380
the business down here in Reno and Sparks and Verde and these areas.

2216
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:05,480
Because it's really setting up to increase and monetize North Lake Tahoe.

2217
03:30:06,340 --> 03:30:12,860
And so there you're going to have all of the gambling money, all these things going up there as opposed to your own districts.

2218
03:30:13,440 --> 03:30:18,760
So I think that should be a concern for you guys as well. Thank you very much.

2219
03:30:19,140 --> 03:30:20,000
Thank you.

2220
03:30:22,400 --> 03:30:26,120
Roxana Dunne followed by Christina Hill.

2221
03:30:30,250 --> 03:30:35,430
Tenure resident of inclined village and chair of the incline village cab.

2222
03:30:36,650 --> 03:30:39,650
I'm spoken with each of you about our evacuation dangers.

2223
03:30:40,670 --> 03:30:45,070
So you already know that I agree with some of the speakers this morning

2224
03:30:45,070 --> 03:30:46,910
that that's a factor.

2225
03:30:47,350 --> 03:30:49,030
But I want to make a different point today.

2226
03:30:49,210 --> 03:30:51,530
And that is that these amendments has structured

2227
03:30:51,530 --> 03:30:56,110
are not going to provide the kind of housing that our workers need.

2228
03:30:57,250 --> 03:31:02,970
Ten years ago when I bought my house in Incline, I was about $1 million short

2229
03:31:02,970 --> 03:31:05,850
of being able to buy a house that has a view of the lake.

2230
03:31:07,010 --> 03:31:10,870
But in the 65-foot high buildings allowed by these amendments,

2231
03:31:11,390 --> 03:31:13,790
I'm pretty sure that the fifth and sixth stories

2232
03:31:13,790 --> 03:31:16,330
are going to have pretty nice views of the lake.

2233
03:31:16,890 --> 03:31:18,950
And we're going to put workforce housing there.

2234
03:31:18,950 --> 03:31:20,810
I don't think so.

2235
03:31:21,330 --> 03:31:23,890
Every one of those units is going to be developed

2236
03:31:23,890 --> 03:31:27,550
under the achievable category that has no limit

2237
03:31:27,550 --> 03:31:31,430
on price for the seller, no limit on income for the buyer,

2238
03:31:31,790 --> 03:31:33,610
no limit on the size of the unit.

2239
03:31:35,150 --> 03:31:38,390
Our workforce doesn't need multimillion dollar condos

2240
03:31:38,390 --> 03:31:39,290
with a view.

2241
03:31:39,890 --> 03:31:42,150
They mostly need rental apartments.

2242
03:31:42,730 --> 03:31:43,710
Look at our workers.

2243
03:31:44,430 --> 03:31:46,610
We have a lot of seasonal workers

2244
03:31:46,610 --> 03:31:48,450
because of the nature of the area.

2245
03:31:48,450 --> 03:31:53,870
We seem to attract a lot of people in their 20s who are spending their last carefree years and

2246
03:31:53,870 --> 03:32:02,170
a fun place. On Saturday, I was talking with a guy who is a slow groom or a diamond peak.

2247
03:32:02,970 --> 03:32:07,710
And he said, I really shouldn't sign your petition because I'm about to move out of the area.

2248
03:32:08,450 --> 03:32:13,890
Turns out he and several of his buddies are moving to Scottsdale because they can no longer

2249
03:32:13,890 --> 03:32:16,250
for it to live in in-cline.

2250
03:32:17,870 --> 03:32:20,570
We have many foreign workers who are here on temporary work

2251
03:32:20,570 --> 03:32:23,990
feces and then we have our more permanent workers

2252
03:32:23,990 --> 03:32:27,650
but who work in lower levels jobs that will never allow them

2253
03:32:27,650 --> 03:32:31,950
to purchase a home but they would like to live where they work.

2254
03:32:33,290 --> 03:32:35,990
Now we do have an example of something that works

2255
03:32:35,990 --> 03:32:39,030
and that is the sugar pine housing complex,

2256
03:32:39,390 --> 03:32:42,530
down in South Lake that was developed under the auspices

2257
03:32:42,530 --> 03:32:49,630
of the St. Joseph community land trust. I'm a fan of land trust. I think this is the only

2258
03:32:49,630 --> 03:32:54,810
thing that's really going to work in our area, and I'm disappointed that TRPA went with

2259
03:32:54,810 --> 03:33:02,510
these amendments instead of pursuing that approach. We want workforce housing, but I don't see

2260
03:33:02,510 --> 03:33:08,350
any way that these amendments are going to result in anything other than high-priced condominiums

2261
03:33:08,350 --> 03:33:15,730
for purchase by people who do not work in the area and probably are may not need assistance.

2262
03:33:16,570 --> 03:33:23,150
So please to vote no, I have 11 seconds left and I would like to use that to commend

2263
03:33:23,150 --> 03:33:29,610
the folks that we have worked with in the planning department, Dave Kat, Courtney, Trevor

2264
03:33:29,610 --> 03:33:31,510
and Eric have all been wonderful.

2265
03:33:31,830 --> 03:33:32,550
So thanks to them.

2266
03:33:33,130 --> 03:33:34,470
Thank you.

2267
03:33:34,470 --> 03:33:38,170
Kristina Hill, followed by Alexander Sigdenus.

2268
03:33:43,260 --> 03:33:43,920
Good afternoon.

2269
03:33:45,180 --> 03:33:47,320
Commissioners, my name is Kristina Hill.

2270
03:33:47,840 --> 03:33:50,900
I've spent over four decades in Lake Tahoe

2271
03:33:50,900 --> 03:33:52,020
Environmental Planning.

2272
03:33:52,580 --> 03:33:55,280
As a TRPA planner, chair of the

2273
03:33:55,280 --> 03:33:58,640
Washow County Board of Adjustments and Consultant.

2274
03:33:58,760 --> 03:34:01,040
I am here today because I believe these

2275
03:34:01,040 --> 03:34:04,000
proposed amendments for the Tahoe area plan

2276
03:34:04,000 --> 03:34:07,660
posed a serious threat to the integrity of our region.

2277
03:34:07,660 --> 03:34:12,860
The amendments contain misleading housing labels.

2278
03:34:13,420 --> 03:34:18,380
The amendments promote workforce and achievable housing, but in reality, the enable

2279
03:34:18,380 --> 03:34:20,420
market rate condos.

2280
03:34:21,720 --> 03:34:28,440
There is no enforceable mechanism to ensure income-based occupancy of these units.

2281
03:34:28,440 --> 03:34:35,120
A achievable housing, which is considered workforce housing, is

2282
03:34:35,120 --> 03:34:38,860
concludes multi-million dollar units, hardly affordable.

2283
03:34:39,820 --> 03:34:44,840
If you want affordable housing, you should limit STRs in

2284
03:34:44,840 --> 03:34:50,040
Washow County, which is only in the Crystal Bay Incline Village area,

2285
03:34:50,460 --> 03:34:52,140
to allow for more workforce housing.

2286
03:34:53,860 --> 03:34:57,560
The amendments create negative environmental impacts.

2287
03:34:57,560 --> 03:34:59,960
100% land coverage is proposed.

2288
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:09,880
With no clear plan for storm water treatment, run off from impervious services is a major contributor to lake degradation.

2289
03:35:10,800 --> 03:35:21,180
The only environmental analysis that was done for this plan to amend these code was done in 1987.

2290
03:35:21,180 --> 03:35:28,660
that was 38 years ago. The world has changed substantially since then and I can't believe

2291
03:35:28,660 --> 03:35:35,960
you're using 38-year-old data to say all the roads will be great, the population will be

2292
03:35:35,960 --> 03:35:43,080
great, everything will be fine. The Lake Tahoe Basin has changed since the pandemic working

2293
03:35:43,080 --> 03:35:51,000
from home in the agency supports more attractions to accommodate more tourists visitors.

2294
03:35:51,000 --> 03:35:53,720
such as the Eshort Trail.

2295
03:35:53,860 --> 03:35:57,180
People come from all over the world to go on that trail.

2296
03:35:59,300 --> 03:36:03,140
And you know, it's just that the amendments

2297
03:36:03,140 --> 03:36:05,980
will create further water quality decline.

2298
03:36:06,760 --> 03:36:09,340
Nureshort water quality is deteriorating.

2299
03:36:09,760 --> 03:36:13,380
Harmful algae blooms and microplastics are increasing.

2300
03:36:14,120 --> 03:36:18,160
Trash accumulation and wildfire evacuations are worsening.

2301
03:36:18,160 --> 03:36:25,640
The Lake's ecological capacity has been exceeded, as confirmed by the state of the Lake report.

2302
03:36:26,880 --> 03:36:28,840
TRPA has shifted their mission.

2303
03:36:29,520 --> 03:36:34,660
It's moved from an environmental protection agency to development promotion.

2304
03:36:35,860 --> 03:36:39,360
Scientists have been replaced with PR professionals.

2305
03:36:42,720 --> 03:36:45,060
They have inferred.

2306
03:36:49,440 --> 03:36:50,900
Thank you.

2307
03:36:52,260 --> 03:36:55,240
Alexander Sikdynis followed by Ann Nichols.

2308
03:36:59,330 --> 03:37:01,730
Alex DeGennis of Washington, who's constituent,

2309
03:37:02,290 --> 03:37:05,150
these amendments are meant to solve a lack of workforce housing

2310
03:37:05,150 --> 03:37:08,010
by dramatically rezoning Tahoe Town Center areas

2311
03:37:08,010 --> 03:37:10,530
from a low-rise rural Main Street model

2312
03:37:10,530 --> 03:37:13,150
to a vertical urban walkable city model,

2313
03:37:13,550 --> 03:37:15,450
two major issues for your consideration.

2314
03:37:16,070 --> 03:37:17,890
First, the Tahoe Basin of Washington,

2315
03:37:18,370 --> 03:37:20,870
do not have a dire shortage of housing units.

2316
03:37:21,370 --> 03:37:23,810
We do have a shortage of housing units available

2317
03:37:23,810 --> 03:37:26,830
to residents who seek to live and work here.

2318
03:37:27,350 --> 03:37:29,850
Anybody anywhere planning a Tahoe vacation

2319
03:37:29,850 --> 03:37:34,610
can choose from more than 5,000 licensed short-term rental listings in the basin,

2320
03:37:35,090 --> 03:37:39,850
in between 800 and 1,000 in Washington, Tahoe, and many more that are unlicensed.

2321
03:37:40,470 --> 03:37:43,190
Adding STR limits would improve housing availability,

2322
03:37:43,990 --> 03:37:46,790
without moving dirt providing tax incentives or subsidies

2323
03:37:46,790 --> 03:37:49,530
or requiring costly changes to infrastructure.

2324
03:37:50,210 --> 03:37:55,990
Ironically, county tax payers now subsidize the administration of Washington's STR program from

2325
03:37:55,990 --> 03:38:01,890
its general fund, doesn't even pay for itself. Note that annual tile visitation is soared

2326
03:38:01,890 --> 03:38:07,390
by some tenfold from two to twenty million over the past twenty years. It's now two times

2327
03:38:07,390 --> 03:38:14,330
of the nation's most visited national park. More transient occupancy tax from STRs only goes

2328
03:38:14,330 --> 03:38:19,810
promoting more tourism, not to work force housing, or improving the infrastructure it runs

2329
03:38:19,810 --> 03:38:26,470
down. These are reasons why communities nationwide have captured restricted as STRs, including

2330
03:38:26,470 --> 03:38:31,570
an Airbnb's corporate homeless San Francisco, where only permanent residents are allowed

2331
03:38:31,570 --> 03:38:37,810
to be STR hosts. Second, this proposed high-density housing requires no parking that assumes

2332
03:38:37,810 --> 03:38:43,270
new residents with ill-defined achievable incomes will not have vehicles. Yet these residents

2333
03:38:43,270 --> 03:38:47,610
are likely to work and landscaping construction or service jobs for which a pickup truck

2334
03:38:47,610 --> 03:38:52,730
or a car itself is a tool of their trade necessary to get to changing work sites.

2335
03:38:53,410 --> 03:38:56,630
Or they're likely to be dual income couples who work in different places.

2336
03:38:57,630 --> 03:39:00,990
Next, in Washington, no drops by the foot in the winter.

2337
03:39:01,570 --> 03:39:05,810
The county struggles to keep our roads clear, let alone our sidewalks and pathways where

2338
03:39:05,810 --> 03:39:06,570
they even exist.

2339
03:39:07,070 --> 03:39:11,010
It's not walkable for half the year when most street parking is illegal.

2340
03:39:11,010 --> 03:39:18,910
Finally, how would non-vehicle owning town center residents be evacuated in the likely event of a summer wildfire?

2341
03:39:19,590 --> 03:39:21,770
So here's why you should vote no to these zoning amendments.

2342
03:39:22,230 --> 03:39:26,690
They will level our existing town centers and price-out current businesses,

2343
03:39:27,170 --> 03:39:33,710
enable a taxpayer subsidized short-term rental program that can continue to remove long-term housing units from our communities,

2344
03:39:33,710 --> 03:39:40,150
create new and costly tax funder, taxpayer funded issues around parking, infrastructure, snow

2345
03:39:40,150 --> 03:39:47,310
removal, etc. Exacirbate wildfire evacuation and basin over capacity issues. And eventually

2346
03:39:47,310 --> 03:39:52,310
they'll most likely end up being just more vacation rental apartments, which nobody asked

2347
03:39:52,310 --> 03:39:58,930
for. Vote no on this poor public policy as would your washow Tahoe constituents if this were

2348
03:39:58,930 --> 03:39:59,750
public referendum.

2349
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:06,720
We can do much better. Thank you. Ann Nichols, followed by Pamela, Mahoney, sickness.

2350
03:40:14,370 --> 03:40:15,850
Good afternoon, Ann Nichols, North

2351
03:40:15,850 --> 03:40:24,130
Tau of Preservation Alliance of Warsaw County Property Owner, lived here 54 years. We strongly

2352
03:40:24,130 --> 03:40:27,970
oppose these amendments. You know, they don't,

2353
03:40:31,100 --> 03:40:35,300
it's just, it's unlawful. And short, you know,

2354
03:40:35,300 --> 03:40:42,520
It feels growth without true affordability, without wildfire, and evacuation planning, and without

2355
03:40:42,520 --> 03:40:44,840
the environmental review required by law.

2356
03:40:46,830 --> 03:40:48,730
A thorough analysis has to be done.

2357
03:40:49,430 --> 03:40:55,270
This is the reasoning of the entire Lake Tahoe Basin piecemeal through each county.

2358
03:40:57,910 --> 03:41:05,410
It's huge, and you're all pointing at each other, OTRPA made me do this, or we did save

2359
03:41:05,410 --> 03:41:06,870
of money for the developers.

2360
03:41:08,770 --> 03:41:16,470
This group think from TRPA that's being forced down your throats started in 2012 and it was

2361
03:41:16,470 --> 03:41:20,570
this great idea about will go higher like they do in Portland.

2362
03:41:21,610 --> 03:41:26,990
It's not the same at Lake Tahoe but TRPA and you guys are treating the whole base in the

2363
03:41:27,690 --> 03:41:34,570
65 feet in height, 100% coverage, unlimited density, and no minimum parking.

2364
03:41:35,270 --> 03:41:36,210
This is hubris.

2365
03:41:36,490 --> 03:41:42,610
It's just, I can't believe that this is happening, and it's been peace milled out,

2366
03:41:42,810 --> 03:41:47,990
oh, this public outreach, well, you had this meeting at the Paris All Building phase three.

2367
03:41:48,030 --> 03:41:53,430
By the way, it's going to increase all the bonus, it's going to increase the, that's

2368
03:41:53,430 --> 03:41:53,990
what they're pushing.

2369
03:41:53,990 --> 03:41:56,190
And don't you want to see more available housing?

2370
03:41:56,770 --> 03:41:57,890
Don't we have to fix this?

2371
03:41:57,890 --> 03:42:01,970
Let's increase our minimums the cap on development.

2372
03:42:02,170 --> 03:42:02,830
Let's increase it.

2373
03:42:02,850 --> 03:42:04,090
That's what they're doing right now.

2374
03:42:04,290 --> 03:42:05,250
But they piece millet.

2375
03:42:05,490 --> 03:42:08,710
They push through one, phase two, now phase three.

2376
03:42:08,870 --> 03:42:10,530
And each one is worse than the other.

2377
03:42:11,050 --> 03:42:13,510
And you're just being dragged into this.

2378
03:42:13,510 --> 03:42:15,110
And I don't think it's defensible.

2379
03:42:15,670 --> 03:42:19,170
You have new information that's not being analyzed

2380
03:42:19,170 --> 03:42:22,950
from Tahoe Clean Air has done this analysis.

2381
03:42:22,950 --> 03:42:27,750
fire evacuation analysis that's going to take six hours to evacuate in

2382
03:42:27,750 --> 03:42:31,450
Klein village. There's nobody knows how long it will take the whole

2383
03:42:31,450 --> 03:42:37,150
lake to evacuate. But go ahead, push this through, rush it through, no

2384
03:42:37,830 --> 03:42:44,090
discussion. It's shameful. Really, I can't believe this is happening. And I

2385
03:42:44,090 --> 03:42:50,150
appreciate Commissioner Clark and Herman's, you know, I love that he goes, if

2386
03:42:50,150 --> 03:42:56,790
Lake Tahoe was a building, it would be unsafe, and it would be out.

2387
03:42:57,250 --> 03:42:57,830
Thank you.

2388
03:42:57,990 --> 03:42:59,370
Thank you.

2389
03:42:59,950 --> 03:43:03,710
Pamela Mahoney, sick Dennis, followed by Pennybrook.

2390
03:43:06,080 --> 03:43:06,580
Good afternoon.

2391
03:43:07,320 --> 03:43:09,020
As you know, I'm Pamela Mahoney, sick Dennis.

2392
03:43:09,160 --> 03:43:11,320
I'm a full-time washow Tahoe resident.

2393
03:43:11,700 --> 03:43:13,700
This is my first time in Chambers.

2394
03:43:14,540 --> 03:43:18,880
I would have normally taken the time to go to incline village, but this is the library.

2395
03:43:18,880 --> 03:43:22,160
but I think this is so important I want it to be here in person.

2396
03:43:23,460 --> 03:43:28,540
Your vote today will be one of the most consequential in Tahoe's history.

2397
03:43:29,220 --> 03:43:31,840
I'm here to ask you to oppose the amendments.

2398
03:43:32,620 --> 03:43:35,680
Development code, this far reaching engraved,

2399
03:43:35,980 --> 03:43:39,160
should be backed by significant environmental analysis,

2400
03:43:39,960 --> 03:43:41,540
comprehensive traffic research,

2401
03:43:42,200 --> 03:43:44,940
visitation data, and evacuation impacts.

2402
03:43:44,940 --> 03:43:49,100
We have none of that information.

2403
03:43:49,940 --> 03:43:52,900
You have the power to request it.

2404
03:43:53,280 --> 03:43:55,540
From the beginning of this rezoning process,

2405
03:43:56,140 --> 03:43:59,780
the public has consistently voiced serious concerns

2406
03:43:59,780 --> 03:44:04,080
about the clear and present danger that extensive development

2407
03:44:04,080 --> 03:44:07,060
in a geographically constrained basin

2408
03:44:07,060 --> 03:44:11,080
will pose to Tahoe residents, visitors, and workers

2409
03:44:11,080 --> 03:44:13,840
not to mention the lake itself.

2410
03:44:13,840 --> 03:44:21,580
These amendments are a naked attempt to serve growth at all cost developer agendas.

2411
03:44:22,500 --> 03:44:28,740
They will also endanger the public, residents, workers, and visitors alike, we're all

2412
03:44:28,740 --> 03:44:30,520
going to be competing to get out.

2413
03:44:31,060 --> 03:44:37,040
As one of my fellow Tauho residents wrote to you, history has shown us time and again that

2414
03:44:37,040 --> 03:44:42,960
when officials ignore risks disaster follows and so does regret.

2415
03:44:42,960 --> 03:44:47,960
We cannot afford to wait until after a tragedy to act.

2416
03:44:48,400 --> 03:44:55,500
Our country, our county and you, our leaders, must proactively address fire and evacuation concerns

2417
03:44:55,500 --> 03:44:59,620
before approving such major development changes.

2418
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:09,940
You have the tools and you have the authority. What remains is the will to act responsibly. We ask

2419
03:45:09,940 --> 03:45:17,920
and please encourage you to require comprehensive evacuation modeling. Require a comprehensive

2420
03:45:17,920 --> 03:45:27,140
environmental impact study that analyzes the risks and harms to Lake Tahoe. Explore changes

2421
03:45:27,140 --> 03:45:31,880
to the short-term rental ordinance to unlock existing housing.

2422
03:45:32,700 --> 03:45:38,960
Approving these amendments today, without the necessary knowledge of the impacts they will have,

2423
03:45:39,420 --> 03:45:44,080
we'll jeopardize the safety of every person who lives, works, and visits.

2424
03:45:45,120 --> 03:45:47,200
Be an advocate for public safety.

2425
03:45:47,680 --> 03:45:52,900
Please be an advocate for the lakes, clarity, and health.

2426
03:45:52,900 --> 03:45:55,540
Oppose these amendments before you today.

2427
03:45:56,100 --> 03:45:57,340
Thank you very much for your time.

2428
03:45:57,740 --> 03:45:58,980
Thank you.

2429
03:45:59,140 --> 03:46:01,500
Penny Brock, followed by Jim McNamara.

2430
03:46:08,980 --> 03:46:12,840
Penny Brock, a resident down in the valley here.

2431
03:46:13,180 --> 03:46:14,800
So why do I care about this?

2432
03:46:15,260 --> 03:46:18,200
Because our county commission is responsible.

2433
03:46:18,920 --> 03:46:20,960
To protect late Lake Tahoe,

2434
03:46:22,100 --> 03:46:24,860
the gem of the Sierra Nevada's inclined village

2435
03:46:24,860 --> 03:46:28,880
where people from around the world dream of vacationing.

2436
03:46:28,880 --> 03:46:33,920
We need to protect the lake, we need to protect incline village.

2437
03:46:34,860 --> 03:46:40,200
There's a word called moratorium, and when you have limited land,

2438
03:46:41,280 --> 03:46:48,220
that word needs to be implemented to maintain what we have in Washington County,

2439
03:46:48,420 --> 03:46:54,360
like Tahoe and incline village, we need to preserve the charm of incline village.

2440
03:46:54,360 --> 03:47:03,660
We also have another issue, your emergency management team is undergoing a study for fire evacuation.

2441
03:47:04,960 --> 03:47:07,320
That includes incline village.

2442
03:47:08,920 --> 03:47:13,900
I'm the chair of the cab in District 2, South Valley's Washo Valley.

2443
03:47:14,720 --> 03:47:16,240
We went through the Davis fire.

2444
03:47:17,740 --> 03:47:19,580
As chair of the cab, I'm concerned.

2445
03:47:20,360 --> 03:47:26,620
How do we evacuate not only the people in the valley along Mount Rose Highway, an air

2446
03:47:26,620 --> 03:47:33,960
creek, but also those that will pour down from inclined village should that fire that

2447
03:47:33,960 --> 03:47:43,480
almost went up the mountain into the Tahoe basin? How do we evacuate? I think it would be wise

2448
03:47:43,480 --> 03:47:52,240
on your part to table this, number 16 before you, until the Washington County Emergency Management

2449
03:47:52,240 --> 03:47:56,700
Study comes out and I'm glad to hear that in-cline has their own study being done.

2450
03:47:57,920 --> 03:48:01,340
Maybe you need to wait for all kinds of reasons your job.

2451
03:48:01,780 --> 03:48:09,600
Number one job is to protect life and property of the citizens you were elected to oversee.

2452
03:48:09,600 --> 03:48:14,480
Please, table this number 16.

2453
03:48:15,020 --> 03:48:16,540
Thank you.

2454
03:48:16,900 --> 03:48:20,800
Jim McNamara, followed by Ellie Waller.

2455
03:48:28,540 --> 03:48:29,080
Good afternoon.

2456
03:48:30,560 --> 03:48:34,920
I am your appointed representative on the

2457
03:48:36,420 --> 03:48:39,120
TRPA Planning Commission.

2458
03:48:39,660 --> 03:48:46,680
I'm also representative for

2459
03:48:46,680 --> 03:48:54,700
of an incline. I've tried my best to get a good handle on their concerns on everything

2460
03:48:54,700 --> 03:49:05,660
from insurability to evacuation and housing. And I want to say from listening to everything,

2461
03:49:06,520 --> 03:49:14,340
I support what Washington County is trying to do in the area plan. I've gone to the meetings

2462
03:49:14,340 --> 03:49:21,280
were residents, not these particular residents, but some of them show up and explain their

2463
03:49:21,280 --> 03:49:23,480
needs as far as housing goes.

2464
03:49:24,440 --> 03:49:31,040
We also have people who come up and talk about evacuation and what their concerns are.

2465
03:49:31,160 --> 03:49:36,800
We've had multiple multiple meetings with the fire chiefs, emergency management, sheriffs.

2466
03:49:38,400 --> 03:49:42,500
And they've learned a tremendous amount over the last 20 years.

2467
03:49:42,500 --> 03:49:48,400
everything from the Angora fire to the Davis fire, it's a learning curve and we've got

2468
03:49:48,400 --> 03:49:52,740
people up there that have been in emergency management and fire positions for 34 to

2469
03:49:52,740 --> 03:49:59,980
years. They are very capable people. They understand that what we're trying to do is not to do

2470
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:07,720
Developed new cities up there and add thousands of people. We're trying to change what's up there. The rampant

2471
03:50:07,720 --> 03:50:14,880
development that occurred in incline and crystal bay in the 60s, 70s and 80s when boys at cascades

2472
03:50:14,880 --> 03:50:21,740
started this. We would not allow that kind of building these days at all. It would be too unsafe.

2473
03:50:29,200 --> 03:50:29,880
It

2474
03:50:29,880 --> 03:50:38,200
exist all the way up through incline, old places, Jupiter, Apollo, Jennifer,

2475
03:50:38,720 --> 03:50:41,080
upper-tiner, those are going to be fire traps.

2476
03:50:41,560 --> 03:50:48,660
And the homes that are up there now are not defensible because of terrain and other factors

2477
03:50:48,660 --> 03:50:56,420
where they're sighted, what we're merely trying to do is redevelop a small area of the

2478
03:50:56,420 --> 03:51:03,500
It's not only give protection, but people could actually shelter in place, but we could also

2479
03:51:03,500 --> 03:51:09,720
add some housing that right now, people can't afford to work up there.

2480
03:51:09,780 --> 03:51:17,500
I mean, share of firefighters, teachers, necessary essential workers, without them we're not

2481
03:51:17,500 --> 03:51:19,200
going to have a community up there.

2482
03:51:19,640 --> 03:51:25,780
So we can't just dismiss that idea of providing, we're not providing housing, we're trying

2483
03:51:25,780 --> 03:51:28,520
to make it buildable for them.

2484
03:51:28,900 --> 03:51:29,680
Thank you for your time.

2485
03:51:29,780 --> 03:51:30,980
Thank you all for your efforts.

2486
03:51:31,620 --> 03:51:32,300
Thank you.

2487
03:51:32,760 --> 03:51:35,460
Ellie Waller, followed by John Epilita.

2488
03:51:40,460 --> 03:51:40,840
Good afternoon.

2489
03:51:41,020 --> 03:51:42,800
Ellie Waller, Douglas County resident.

2490
03:51:43,080 --> 03:51:48,760
The by state compact charges TRPA with establishing a regional plan for the Lake Tahoe Basin

2491
03:51:48,760 --> 03:51:53,800
as a road map to achieve long-term environmental goals, thresholds for the region.

2492
03:51:54,040 --> 03:51:58,520
There are three primary growth management strategies to preserve Lake Tahoe's unique

2493
03:51:58,520 --> 03:52:04,360
environment, limiting development, public land acquisition, and conserving natural areas.

2494
03:52:04,840 --> 03:52:09,220
The Washington-Earrier Plan proposed amendments do not address any of the growth management

2495
03:52:09,220 --> 03:52:09,860
strategies.

2496
03:52:10,420 --> 03:52:14,720
Thus cannot make the required findings vote no, oppose the amendments.

2497
03:52:15,400 --> 03:52:21,320
The TRPA compact does not address housing periods, so why is TRPA leading the way, pushing

2498
03:52:21,320 --> 03:52:26,820
local jurisdictions to adopt code amendments that have not been thoroughly analyzed through

2499
03:52:26,820 --> 03:52:29,480
and a comprehensive environmental impact study.

2500
03:52:30,300 --> 03:52:33,060
The individual area plans were not analyzed

2501
03:52:33,060 --> 03:52:34,980
in the 2012 regional plan.

2502
03:52:35,180 --> 03:52:37,920
TARPA is kicking the can to the local jurisdictions

2503
03:52:37,920 --> 03:52:41,900
while regional and local impacts go unchecked.

2504
03:52:41,980 --> 03:52:45,780
Open your eyes, lawsuits thus happen at the local jurisdiction level.

2505
03:52:46,160 --> 03:52:50,040
The TARPA codependent requiring adding phase two incentives

2506
03:52:50,040 --> 03:52:52,480
do not guarantee a single unit will be built.

2507
03:52:52,640 --> 03:52:54,660
In fact, continuing to allow in-loop

2508
03:52:54,660 --> 03:53:01,400
programs, land donations, et cetera, further pre-clude the actual units from being built.

2509
03:53:01,900 --> 03:53:08,460
The continued failures of incentive-based code allowances along with not requiring new

2510
03:53:08,460 --> 03:53:13,800
proposed developments to actually build the much needed real affordable housing is clearly

2511
03:53:13,800 --> 03:53:19,880
evident in recent wash-up approvals, requesting additional perks of height increases less

2512
03:53:19,880 --> 03:53:26,020
parking 100% coverage and town centers create cumulative impacts and unbittigated growth that

2513
03:53:26,020 --> 03:53:30,020
have not been evaluated in the regional plant and must be.

2514
03:53:30,320 --> 03:53:32,760
These impacts go unchecked.

2515
03:53:32,960 --> 03:53:37,420
Furthermore, adding unmitigated population growth with short-term rentals and regional

2516
03:53:37,420 --> 03:53:42,700
growth and renal, carcass and cities, Sacramento, etc., is completely ignoring base and

2517
03:53:42,700 --> 03:53:45,240
wide jurisdictional issues.

2518
03:53:45,240 --> 03:53:51,440
The short-term rental program has resulted in loss of affordable housing by owners kicking out

2519
03:53:51,440 --> 03:53:54,780
renters in favor of financial gain by renting to tourists.

2520
03:53:55,340 --> 03:53:59,600
Be reminded to those of very unique environment and cannot and should not be compared or

2521
03:53:59,600 --> 03:54:01,580
modeled after any other location.

2522
03:54:02,160 --> 03:54:07,280
For the health and safety of the residents and tourists alike, I request you reject these amendments.

2523
03:54:07,940 --> 03:54:08,140
Thank you.

2524
03:54:09,260 --> 03:54:10,840
John, John Appelito?

2525
03:54:23,170 --> 03:54:23,350
Hi.

2526
03:54:23,350 --> 03:54:31,870
I'm John Epilito, I've been a real estate broker in Lake Tahoe for 27 years, both in Nevada and California, and that's on the North Shore.

2527
03:54:33,890 --> 03:54:46,350
The TRPA governing board, when they voted to approve these new area plan to whatever it is, the highest ranking elected official on the TRPA governing board,

2528
03:54:47,150 --> 03:54:52,970
Secretary of State's Cisco Aguilar voted against these things that you guys are going to vote on today.

2529
03:54:54,090 --> 03:54:58,070
And what he said was, you have to start listening to the community.

2530
03:54:59,050 --> 03:54:59,970
We haven't seen that.

2531
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:08,620
Start to happen yet. We had a bunch of people in incline that came up with a low moderate income housing area in the middle of town.

2532
03:55:09,300 --> 03:55:26,920
And unfortunately, a developer bought one of those parcels by mistake, so he came to Alexis and he was able to get the zoning change to you guys from low income housing to build two to five million dollar condominiums. Then he decided, now I'll just sell it. Now it's for sale for nine million dollars.

2533
03:55:26,920 --> 03:55:35,080
I don't know who's campaign. He's going to contribute to. I agree with people that already spoke and only have limited time.

2534
03:55:35,140 --> 03:55:39,580
Pam, you did an excellent job. Thank you very much. Christine Hill, Super.

2535
03:55:40,360 --> 03:55:45,100
Ann Nichols, she's the one who got me understanding what's going on.

2536
03:55:45,500 --> 03:55:49,300
Ali, Alex, thank you very much for your comments. I agree with what those people said.

2537
03:55:49,860 --> 03:55:55,880
My biggest concern is getting out during a fire. I think most people know by now you can't evacuate us.

2538
03:55:55,880 --> 03:56:00,660
All these fires we've had around the country, and most of them don't have near as much fuel

2539
03:56:00,660 --> 03:56:01,940
as we have in Tahoe.

2540
03:56:02,620 --> 03:56:08,120
Here's one evacuating Tahoe could take twice as long as projected simulations indicate.

2541
03:56:09,580 --> 03:56:11,360
Here's one from the Reno Gazette Journal.

2542
03:56:11,660 --> 03:56:13,140
It will not be survivable.

2543
03:56:13,660 --> 03:56:17,080
Lake Tahoe fire could be a death trap during major wildfires.

2544
03:56:19,820 --> 03:56:20,340
Here's one.

2545
03:56:20,540 --> 03:56:23,600
Future wildfires could trap tourists in Tahoe.

2546
03:56:24,820 --> 03:56:29,760
Here's one that firemen, retired, and former fire department, professional assigned about how

2547
03:56:29,760 --> 03:56:32,100
unsafe it is, and we can't get evacuated.

2548
03:56:32,480 --> 03:56:34,980
This is what we should be focusing on.

2549
03:56:35,160 --> 03:56:40,800
And here's one I think this is one about Cisco Aguilar, who's protecting Tahoe regulatory agency

2550
03:56:40,800 --> 03:56:43,340
enamored with developments as critics.

2551
03:56:43,920 --> 03:56:48,940
Yes, when I first came to Tahoe and when I first started selling real estate, I used

2552
03:56:48,940 --> 03:56:52,200
to all clients TRPA, her Lake Tauvases

2553
03:56:52,200 --> 03:56:54,860
never going to be overdeveloped because of TRPA,

2554
03:56:55,400 --> 03:56:57,040
but now that they've lost their way

2555
03:56:57,040 --> 03:56:58,840
and gotten into the development industry,

2556
03:56:59,660 --> 03:57:01,880
please put a breaks on this.

2557
03:57:02,000 --> 03:57:04,780
Don't know, make the TRPA do what's right.

2558
03:57:05,040 --> 03:57:06,980
They cannot get us out during a fire.

2559
03:57:07,300 --> 03:57:09,160
I'm going to give these to her for the record.

2560
03:57:09,340 --> 03:57:09,900
Thank you.

2561
03:57:11,910 --> 03:57:13,950
We have nobody else signed in and chambers.

2562
03:57:14,370 --> 03:57:17,410
We do have virtual public comment and incline village.

2563
03:57:17,410 --> 03:57:22,230
First up is Stephen Johnson, followed by Helen Neff.

2564
03:57:28,860 --> 03:57:33,140
Hello, my name is Steve Johnson, I'm a 25-year resident up in

2565
03:57:33,140 --> 03:57:37,360
in Clant Village. I wanted to address two specific issues that we've been

2566
03:57:37,360 --> 03:57:41,740
talking about today and really highlight them. The first one is parking. Since

2567
03:57:41,740 --> 03:57:44,180
the creation of inclant and village there has never been an

2568
03:57:44,180 --> 03:57:48,740
intelligent assessment of allocating sufficient parking spaces on the

2569
03:57:48,740 --> 03:57:54,760
you were owners actually reside. Any casual observer can clearly see this issue by driving by any

2570
03:57:54,760 --> 03:58:00,380
the many existing high-density condominium developments in the evenings when the residents are home

2571
03:58:00,380 --> 03:58:06,560
from school and work. Cars and trucks are parked all over a public streets as they're a totally

2572
03:58:06,560 --> 03:58:12,420
insufficient number of spaces with the associated parcels where these people live. During the busy summer

2573
03:58:12,420 --> 03:58:18,460
months, the shortage is compounded by the addition of trailers, boats and RVs. For units that do

2574
03:58:18,460 --> 03:58:23,400
function as short-term rentals, as many as five or six additional vehicles end up on the

2575
03:58:23,400 --> 03:58:26,220
streets, sidewalks, and in public parking.

2576
03:58:26,900 --> 03:58:32,320
There's also a huge issue during the winter with public parking restrictions, which is

2577
03:58:32,320 --> 03:58:37,960
our winter is six months long up here when vehicles are illegally parked all on the streets

2578
03:58:37,960 --> 03:58:42,660
day and night, preventing the proper clearing of snow from our roadways.

2579
03:58:43,020 --> 03:58:48,100
The vehicles end up parking literally wherever possible, including many illegal spots, creating

2580
03:58:48,100 --> 03:58:52,520
chaos in peating snow clearance and promoting the erosion of soils which

2581
03:58:52,520 --> 03:58:56,880
washing to our late Tahoe. When I first moved the inclined village 25 years ago

2582
03:58:56,880 --> 03:59:01,820
the county did issue parking violations for impeding snow removal. No longer,

2583
03:59:02,300 --> 03:59:05,860
ticketing cars and trucks would be impractical and a serious imposition on our

2584
03:59:05,860 --> 03:59:11,220
low-income, hard-working residents living in the condo units. The plan says that the

2585
03:59:11,220 --> 03:59:18,080
current minimum of one to two parking spaces per unit. Well that's that's

2586
03:59:18,080 --> 03:59:24,040
in an exaggeration. The authors of the plan fail to recognize that the currency occupancy rates

2587
03:59:24,040 --> 03:59:30,960
of condos and other affordable housing units far exceed the intended rates. Many condos have

2588
03:59:30,960 --> 03:59:36,600
more than one family residing in them with multiple adults who all own vehicles. The truth is

2589
03:59:36,600 --> 03:59:42,420
that if we had additional high density housing, these units will also have many more residents

2590
03:59:42,420 --> 03:59:48,000
that were originally planned for. I believe the plan proposes to reduce parking requirements

2591
03:59:48,000 --> 03:59:56,460
to 0.7 spaces per unit. That's crazy. It's completely unworkable. We need more parking spaces

2592
03:59:56,460 --> 03:59:59,780
not less. Please drive down southwood Boulevard.

2593
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:08,880
Northwood Boulevard, any time to see the problem, especially during the winter months when illegally parked vehicles, they're buried in snow when the clouds attempt to clear our roads.

2594
04:00:09,440 --> 04:00:15,500
It's an unsafe situation that would only be worse than by increasing housing density and reducing parking requirements.

2595
04:00:16,220 --> 04:00:22,640
A second issue is on bicycles. It would appear that the authors of the plan believe that providing parking spaces for bicycles,

2596
04:00:22,640 --> 04:00:27,660
such the tubes for needing parking spaces for vehicles and if

2597
04:00:27,660 --> 04:00:31,200
residents have parking spaces for their bikes, they won't drive a car.

2598
04:00:31,720 --> 04:00:34,360
That might work during the summer months, but you know,

2599
04:00:34,360 --> 04:00:36,980
that's a total non-started during the winter season, which is up here

2600
04:00:36,980 --> 04:00:38,380
for about six minutes.

2601
04:00:38,640 --> 04:00:39,740
There are six months.

2602
04:00:39,920 --> 04:00:43,320
Helen Ness, followed by Scott Taish.

2603
04:00:44,600 --> 04:00:45,640
Thank you.

2604
04:00:51,020 --> 04:00:51,840
Hi, Helen Ness.

2605
04:00:52,020 --> 04:00:52,400
Thank you.

2606
04:00:52,400 --> 04:00:53,180
with residents.

2607
04:00:54,260 --> 04:00:57,020
The proposed amendments to the towel area plans for

2608
04:00:57,020 --> 04:01:00,260
incline-villaging Crystal Bay do not reflect the safety

2609
04:01:00,260 --> 04:01:02,820
values and needs of our local residents.

2610
04:01:03,500 --> 04:01:06,560
The key issues raised by our community are clearly

2611
04:01:06,560 --> 04:01:08,300
stated in the staff report.

2612
04:01:08,760 --> 04:01:12,700
First and foremost, wildfire evacuation and in an area

2613
04:01:12,700 --> 04:01:16,780
already highly vulnerable with limited evacuation routes.

2614
04:01:17,480 --> 04:01:21,300
Second impacts on our community character with a proposed

2615
04:01:21,300 --> 04:01:23,960
dollar buildings altering the Tahoe landscape.

2616
04:01:24,980 --> 04:01:27,820
Third, reduce parking standards that ignore the needs

2617
04:01:27,820 --> 04:01:30,280
of essential workers who depend on their vehicles

2618
04:01:30,280 --> 04:01:31,380
for their livelihood.

2619
04:01:32,420 --> 04:01:34,580
Fourth, the definition of achievable housing,

2620
04:01:34,660 --> 04:01:36,180
which lacks income requirements,

2621
04:01:36,500 --> 04:01:40,140
and instead creates incentives for market rate projects

2622
04:01:40,140 --> 04:01:41,840
rather than affordable apartments.

2623
04:01:42,800 --> 04:01:44,620
And finally, ongoing concerns about

2624
04:01:44,620 --> 04:01:47,520
de-breastric shin enforcement, which is historically

2625
04:01:47,520 --> 04:01:49,420
been weak and lacks transparency.

2626
04:01:50,060 --> 04:02:01,560
Many of these same objections were voice last fall to TRPA, yet they were largely dismissed as a face to amendments advanced through committees and were approved by the governing board in December.

2627
04:02:02,440 --> 04:02:13,520
This disregard for evacuation safety and a one-size-fits-all approach to told a code of amendments ignores the vast differences between Tahoe's northwest and south shores.

2628
04:02:13,520 --> 04:02:19,360
To be clear, we strongly support affordable housing for our workforce, but approved amendments

2629
04:02:19,360 --> 04:02:23,940
to allow taller buildings with reduced parking under the banner of a achievable housing

2630
04:02:23,940 --> 04:02:25,600
will not deliver what is needed.

2631
04:02:26,180 --> 04:02:31,360
We strongly support public safety, which includes evacuation planning and transportation

2632
04:02:31,360 --> 04:02:38,140
safety changes to our roads, both areas that require priority attention before approving

2633
04:02:38,140 --> 04:02:43,040
amendments that allow taller buildings and higher population density.

2634
04:02:43,700 --> 04:02:48,620
Community trust depends on transparency, responsiveness, and collaboration.

2635
04:02:49,640 --> 04:02:55,700
Stronger outcomes come from listening to those most impacted, not handing down pre-determined

2636
04:02:55,700 --> 04:02:56,320
solutions.

2637
04:02:57,040 --> 04:03:02,960
I urge you to listen to residents oppose these amendments and advocate for a process

2638
04:03:02,960 --> 04:03:05,060
that truly respects local input.

2639
04:03:05,600 --> 04:03:05,680
Thank you.

2640
04:03:05,940 --> 04:03:06,860
Thank you.

2641
04:03:08,040 --> 04:03:11,220
Scott Taish, followed by Lynn Wittstone.

2642
04:03:13,140 --> 04:03:14,780
Good afternoon, my name is Scott Teach.

2643
04:03:14,960 --> 04:03:16,820
I'm from Moody, Cripple Bay in 1980.

2644
04:03:17,260 --> 04:03:19,060
Please pardon my prepared statement.

2645
04:03:20,900 --> 04:03:23,260
When you land at the Reno Tower International Airport,

2646
04:03:23,360 --> 04:03:27,100
the giant sign says the future of Reno is more.

2647
04:03:27,800 --> 04:03:29,860
Notice it doesn't say incline village is more.

2648
04:03:30,760 --> 04:03:33,860
Reno gets the future incline gets the more.

2649
04:03:34,200 --> 04:03:34,800
Vote no.

2650
04:03:35,640 --> 04:03:43,960
Incline is, once again, Washington is big, beautiful and new, and is our district one commissioner fighting for us, doesn't look that way.

2651
04:03:44,340 --> 04:03:53,180
Looks like peace making with fellow commissioners keeping a political clear on track, a political career on track, and leaving incline village on the hook.

2652
04:03:54,200 --> 04:03:58,400
I voted and contributed for that. I stand a snucker.

2653
04:03:59,440 --> 04:04:04,120
We're told the TRPA is forcing Washington to adopt this community plan.

2654
04:04:04,500 --> 04:04:07,460
Come on, Washington can think for itself, can it?

2655
04:04:07,800 --> 04:04:10,740
Don't rubber stamp a plan that wrecks your own backyard.

2656
04:04:11,820 --> 04:04:20,940
Unlimited growth, undefined housing, no parking requirements, Bay Area Style traffic with restricted infrastructure.

2657
04:04:21,600 --> 04:04:26,500
The fantasy that families with kids, dogs, skis, coolers, and bikes are just going to

2658
04:04:26,500 --> 04:04:29,340
hop on the bus, you know, right.

2659
04:04:30,060 --> 04:04:30,960
What about evacuation?

2660
04:04:31,360 --> 04:04:34,040
Everybody knows it's not if, but when.

2661
04:04:34,760 --> 04:04:37,860
There is even a clear plan for today's run in it.

2662
04:04:41,100 --> 04:04:44,300
None disclosed without threatening national security, of course.

2663
04:04:45,060 --> 04:04:46,220
What about our security?

2664
04:04:46,220 --> 04:04:54,240
So, the solution is, add thousands of more cars, genius, or gas on the fire, pun intended.

2665
04:04:55,220 --> 04:04:59,840
Inclined village and North Power will be changed forever, not for the better, vote no.

2666
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:05,400
Thank you very much. Lynn Wettstone, followed by Tim Delaney.

2667
04:05:07,740 --> 04:05:09,940
Hi, my name is Lynn Wettstone, and I live in a

2668
04:05:09,940 --> 04:05:17,380
Paula way in which is on the north edge of town. It's an area that was labeled by a previous speaker

2669
04:05:17,380 --> 04:05:24,860
as indefensible and a wildfire. My primary concern with these proposed amendments is wildfire of

2670
04:05:25,580 --> 04:05:33,060
And I want to bring to your attention some recent developments, which should be yet another cause to reject these amendments at this time.

2671
04:05:33,900 --> 04:05:42,860
As you're aware, a major partner to local government in the event of a wildfire is the Lake Tahoe Base Management Unit, which is part of the U.S. Forest Service.

2672
04:05:42,860 --> 04:05:49,480
Recent position reductions in layoffs, FFF4 service have been well-publicized.

2673
04:05:50,080 --> 04:05:56,120
More recently, on July 24, the U.S. Secretary of Agriculture announced a reorganization

2674
04:05:56,120 --> 04:06:01,280
plan, which includes further reductions and will change the management structure of the

2675
04:06:01,280 --> 04:06:02,220
forest service.

2676
04:06:03,200 --> 04:06:08,080
There are currently, there's currently regional office in Vale, California, which manages

2677
04:06:08,080 --> 04:06:15,720
all of the Forest Service units in the Sierra. And there's also one in Oregon. Both of those

2678
04:06:15,720 --> 04:06:22,580
will be closed. I'm assuming the LCM BMU will report to the nearest office, which will be

2679
04:06:22,580 --> 04:06:27,820
in Salt Lake City. There will be a significant loss of management knowledge of wildfire and

2680
04:06:27,820 --> 04:06:34,940
environmental issues in the Lake Tahoe basin. And the Sierra in general. This will further harm

2681
04:06:34,940 --> 04:06:39,680
the LCBM use ability to respond effectively to wildfires appear.

2682
04:06:40,640 --> 04:06:45,560
As long-term government executives for the state of California, when we purchased our home

2683
04:06:45,560 --> 04:06:51,320
in 1997, we believe we could rely on government to help keep us safe.

2684
04:06:51,840 --> 04:06:57,300
We have lost protection by the TRPA and are losing confidence in the LCBMU.

2685
04:06:57,900 --> 04:07:02,940
We're scared, particularly after the called our fire and last year's day this fire, which

2686
04:07:02,940 --> 04:07:08,900
for miles from our house and was mentioned earlier. We are looking to wash a county as the only

2687
04:07:08,900 --> 04:07:14,000
entity which is currently in a position to keep things to be getting even worse. Please reject

2688
04:07:14,000 --> 04:07:20,680
and propose planet amendments. Thank you. Thank you. Tim Delaney, followed by Aaron Vanderpool.

2689
04:07:24,900 --> 04:07:31,140
Hello, Tim Delaney. Nice to hear all of you again. Fabulous public speaking here that I'm hearing.

2690
04:07:31,960 --> 04:07:39,540
I'm going to my apologies. I'm a little worn out. I got on the road at, I think, five in a morning or something like that.

2691
04:07:39,560 --> 04:07:43,200
I drove out of the Santa Cruz Mountains to feed a path up here.

2692
04:07:43,500 --> 04:07:50,000
You're trying to figure out why folks have their thumbs on my stack of cash.

2693
04:07:51,360 --> 04:07:57,720
So I'm going to give a little bit of a leg up here to wealthy people in climb village that might be afraid to speak

2694
04:07:57,720 --> 04:08:02,620
Because of all these obelords, you know, it's the buzzword Brigade, right?

2695
04:08:03,200 --> 04:08:05,080
You want to make them feel bad.

2696
04:08:05,640 --> 04:08:08,740
Well, they can all point to me and say, well, what about Tim?

2697
04:08:09,740 --> 04:08:12,840
You see, I'm part of the lower caste system.

2698
04:08:13,360 --> 04:08:16,380
That's right. I worked from the very bottom up.

2699
04:08:17,620 --> 04:08:20,140
And to see the thing is here as a kid,

2700
04:08:20,780 --> 04:08:22,760
my childhood was enormously difficult.

2701
04:08:22,760 --> 04:08:30,560
And yes, I was in and out of jails and my best friends and life were combat veterans in my family and

2702
04:08:30,560 --> 04:08:34,440
extirled to my family and law enforcement officers. Interesting huh.

2703
04:08:35,640 --> 04:08:41,100
So the thing is is I climb out of all of that and I get a

2704
04:08:41,100 --> 04:08:47,860
Pelbramp funded injuring physics degree and I've looked at all this and I have an American society here

2705
04:08:47,860 --> 04:08:49,640
That will not listen to me

2706
04:08:50,400 --> 04:08:53,040
So, you hear that word group thing, right?

2707
04:08:53,520 --> 04:08:58,280
So you remember that little episode over was it South Korea, Japan, everything and everybody

2708
04:08:58,280 --> 04:09:03,720
was like throwing up that colored dust in the air and they thought it was a good time and

2709
04:09:03,720 --> 04:09:04,200
everything?

2710
04:09:04,840 --> 04:09:10,760
Well, do you think, if I was in that society speaking to those people, that somehow I can

2711
04:09:10,760 --> 04:09:15,220
convince them and tell them to look with my life experiences and all my industrial work,

2712
04:09:15,380 --> 04:09:18,380
that's not a very smart thing to do, you say?

2713
04:09:18,380 --> 04:09:22,360
That's what you're doing here right now with incline village.

2714
04:09:23,040 --> 04:09:29,840
I don't like what you're doing, Alexis, you're going to destroy my town and have a bunch

2715
04:09:29,840 --> 04:09:35,500
of big structures here that are above the trees and what help me out in life as structures

2716
04:09:35,500 --> 04:09:42,300
below the trees and seeing the wind blowing those trees back and forth in the snow, it gave

2717
04:09:42,300 --> 04:09:44,080
me a reason to live.

2718
04:09:44,080 --> 04:09:47,540
All right, you need to think about all that.

2719
04:09:47,860 --> 04:09:52,160
When I was a young man, I actually had about 15 officers,

2720
04:09:52,740 --> 04:09:55,140
half of them pointing guns at me.

2721
04:09:55,580 --> 04:09:57,300
Think about that.

2722
04:09:57,840 --> 04:09:59,660
And think about what I climbed out of.

2723
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:05,720
I climb out of that, and I ended up with that engineering, because it's agreein I did a lot of good work for our national government here.

2724
04:10:06,840 --> 04:10:15,300
So, I climb out of that, I buy a piece of property, I save all my little beans, and now people have their thumb on my cash pile.

2725
04:10:16,120 --> 04:10:24,020
I don't like that. That's evil. It's wicked. It's disgusting. You need to get out of my town with your genders.

2726
04:10:24,760 --> 04:10:27,580
All right? Thank you. You take it easy.

2727
04:10:29,820 --> 04:10:32,940
Aaron Vanderpool, followed by Stephen Ross.

2728
04:10:37,630 --> 04:10:48,650
Yeah, Aaron Vanderpool, that was nice to follow by somebody else that grew up here and is in a class that I am and also an academic that turned into academic.

2729
04:10:49,330 --> 04:10:57,390
I grew up here, I spent over four decades here and I'm here to tell you that what you're doing is destroying the future of everybody that can hear me.

2730
04:10:57,930 --> 04:11:07,650
I've sent a letter. I'm going to bullet point four points. Well, you're doing may increase short term and it's all short term thinking and might make things a little bit affordable for short term.

2731
04:11:07,830 --> 04:11:21,050
But one, ADUs, significant degree increase wealth inequality. If you put an ADU on a piece of property, you're increasing that value way above out of reach of a single family home that I would like to buy.

2732
04:11:21,050 --> 04:11:26,570
Two, building more doesn't work in the system where we keep giving more money to the wealthy.

2733
04:11:27,250 --> 04:11:31,190
You know, when how many parcels does David's Fieldon, L.S.N.

2734
04:11:31,370 --> 04:11:36,310
You know, all these people behind their other LLC names that are buying up everything.

2735
04:11:36,390 --> 04:11:38,350
Is there something in the stockmark called low flow?

2736
04:11:39,090 --> 04:11:47,190
When small amount of people own and lock up all the stock, then it's very volatile and usually just goes to moon way above what the value should be.

2737
04:11:47,190 --> 04:11:53,290
3D restriction. If you did restrict my neighborhood next to an undead restricted neighborhood

2738
04:11:53,290 --> 04:11:59,490
of the wealthiest people in the world, it turns a slum of renters that eventually is just

2739
04:11:59,490 --> 04:12:05,890
controlled and owned by them. It doesn't make sense how you're restricting the poor, you're unrestricting

2740
04:12:05,890 --> 04:12:06,630
in the wealthy.

2741
04:12:08,190 --> 04:12:13,850
Here, P.A. said, the D restriction rates more regulation, more bureaucracy.

2742
04:12:14,130 --> 04:12:15,790
We have spent more tax dollars.

2743
04:12:17,210 --> 04:12:23,710
You can't, D.P.R.A. said at the Affordable Housing Workshop, they can't, they don't

2744
04:12:23,710 --> 04:12:28,570
know about funding, continued funding for these programs like Placement, which gives $7,000

2745
04:12:28,570 --> 04:12:32,470
of our tax dollars to a wealthy empty homeowner.

2746
04:12:32,470 --> 04:12:38,290
Why are you taking my tax dollars given it to the wealthy not taxing them that their homes are sitting empty?

2747
04:12:38,630 --> 04:12:40,670
You know, I somebody's point out to me,

2748
04:12:40,850 --> 04:12:45,450
Incline Village has 9,100 population, I guess.

2749
04:12:45,890 --> 04:12:48,930
So why is it we can't find people to work at our post office?

2750
04:12:49,470 --> 04:12:51,910
You know, these houses keep getting bigger and bigger.

2751
04:12:52,430 --> 04:12:55,310
You know, I was lucky that my mom and I bought a condo.

2752
04:12:55,490 --> 04:12:58,110
We spent every dime that we had into it.

2753
04:12:58,150 --> 04:12:59,590
That's only reason I'm still here.

2754
04:12:59,590 --> 04:13:03,630
I don't think I'll be able to afford to be here in the future because the H.O.A.

2755
04:13:03,630 --> 04:13:04,750
prices keep going up.

2756
04:13:04,910 --> 04:13:06,490
We can't get fire insurance.

2757
04:13:07,050 --> 04:13:10,290
You know, even owning a home, I don't see a future for me here.

2758
04:13:10,590 --> 04:13:11,310
This is ridiculous.

2759
04:13:12,290 --> 04:13:14,630
I'm dumbfounded by what is going on here.

2760
04:13:14,850 --> 04:13:18,630
You're destroying my future of living here, even in this condo.

2761
04:13:18,790 --> 04:13:20,730
Nobody wants to be in a condo with H.O.A. fees.

2762
04:13:20,890 --> 04:13:22,310
We want a single family home.

2763
04:13:22,370 --> 04:13:24,030
I can't afford that.

2764
04:13:24,350 --> 04:13:26,110
I have lots more to say here.

2765
04:13:26,230 --> 04:13:27,510
I'm running out of time.

2766
04:13:27,510 --> 04:13:36,730
You know, we've outlawed STRs in my HOA, we have workforce housing like more normal people, you're welcome, you know, why aren't they doing this?

2767
04:13:37,630 --> 04:13:39,650
This is, this is out on herd of

2768
04:13:41,950 --> 04:13:45,850
Stephen Ross, followed by Niam Sorin Udys.

2769
04:13:50,310 --> 04:14:02,610
My name is Stephen Ross, I live here at Infine Village, and I would like to say to the commissioners, please stand up, stand up for the people that live here in Infine Village in Crystal Bay.

2770
04:14:02,610 --> 04:14:11,390
stand up for what you probably know is what's right, not right for the developers, not right for those that are going to make money off of this plan.

2771
04:14:11,870 --> 04:14:17,150
Stand up for the people that live here and have to be able to be evacuated in case of an emergency.

2772
04:14:18,190 --> 04:14:24,750
So stand up, do what's right for the community, not what's just right for those developers.

2773
04:14:24,750 --> 04:14:31,350
stand up for what's right for the environment, what's right for the lake itself, we want

2774
04:14:31,350 --> 04:14:38,050
to maintain water quality. We drink our water from this lake. It's not appropriate for

2775
04:14:38,050 --> 04:14:45,130
us to continue to pave over the community so that there's increased runoff into the lake.

2776
04:14:45,570 --> 04:14:52,630
It doesn't do us any good and it certainly harms our water quality. So please stand up and do

2777
04:14:52,630 --> 04:14:55,530
So let's write for the community. Thank you.

2778
04:14:55,750 --> 04:14:56,450
Thank you.

2779
04:14:57,530 --> 04:14:59,410
Now I am so in units.

2780
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:10,620
Yes, followed by John police. Hi, my name is Danielle Sturmurutus. I have lived here full-time since 2011. I live in the

2781
04:15:10,620 --> 04:15:18,560
upper time area where previous people discussed about fire evacuation. I live on one way road. And if I

2782
04:15:18,560 --> 04:15:25,560
had to exit, I don't know how I could escape the fire. It's pretty scary. And I think the amendments

2783
04:15:25,560 --> 04:15:33,260
will cause lots of environmental problems to start with fire. Water quality will decrease and the

2784
04:15:33,260 --> 04:15:39,480
traffic will increase more and sewer will be worse and parking space will be problematic.

2785
04:15:40,540 --> 04:15:46,400
And I would like to give an example of for example, I think it was in 2023. I was stuck on

2786
04:15:47,060 --> 04:15:52,760
28, 20 head from Infin Village to Crystal Bay, not very far. I would say two miles, but I was stuck

2787
04:15:52,760 --> 04:15:57,200
because there's no way out with it. There was a gas leak and construction work was going on

2788
04:15:57,200 --> 04:16:02,540
on the road and there was gas leak and the whole road was shut down and there was no way to get out

2789
04:16:02,540 --> 04:16:08,080
or get to my home and I think you even get worse if this amendment goes through.

2790
04:16:09,300 --> 04:16:12,600
And please vote against these amendments in the hyper-recall sprawling,

2791
04:16:12,680 --> 04:16:17,680
any kind of militant crystal bay and keep left to help pristine and safe for the residents.

2792
04:16:18,100 --> 04:16:19,220
Please take care. Thank you.

2793
04:16:19,220 --> 04:16:22,500
John Feliz, followed by Rhonda Taser.

2794
04:16:25,950 --> 04:16:31,730
Yes, a John Feliz family property owner since 1987 in inclined village.

2795
04:16:33,250 --> 04:16:41,110
The workforce housing section in this amendment is written and will not be supporting the true housing needs of our workforce in our community.

2796
04:16:41,730 --> 04:16:47,090
Housing for workers is an all-time low, and this proposal is not even coming close to addressing that.

2797
04:16:47,090 --> 04:16:51,030
And especially how will the pricing structure even be enforced

2798
04:16:51,030 --> 04:16:55,790
since our current short-term rental violations are not monitored or enforced

2799
04:16:55,790 --> 04:17:00,030
with occupancy volumes and parking restrictions that are continuously overlooked.

2800
04:17:01,310 --> 04:17:06,570
Traffic congestion and our safety continues to grow, problems continue to grow,

2801
04:17:06,890 --> 04:17:11,910
and a solid emergency evacuation studies and plans continue to be ignored

2802
04:17:11,910 --> 04:17:23,110
or approved and planned as well, comments concerning original growth of incline housing in the 60s and 70s is valid.

2803
04:17:23,210 --> 04:17:26,150
How about by the tarpa representative for our community?

2804
04:17:26,590 --> 04:17:36,590
However, and perhaps not what we should be doing today, but it is what we have and what we need to respect and not add to over development at this point.

2805
04:17:36,590 --> 04:17:46,230
These amendments have strong potential to add loss of life to the and lower the quality of life in Lake Tahoe Basin, and will be devastating for many.

2806
04:17:46,750 --> 04:17:59,670
Please show your constituents and the children of our future that this will be stopped here and you choose and to support and make good governance for the future of our late communities and help eliminate blood on anybody's hands.

2807
04:17:59,830 --> 04:18:01,070
Thank you for your time.

2808
04:18:01,070 --> 04:18:02,630
Thank you.

2809
04:18:02,790 --> 04:18:03,450
Ron DeTicer?

2810
04:18:12,080 --> 04:18:13,560
Good afternoon, commissioners.

2811
04:18:14,100 --> 04:18:16,080
Ron DePicer in Kleinville, age I've already

2812
04:18:16,080 --> 04:18:16,900
handed to you.

2813
04:18:17,140 --> 04:18:22,520
The 260 plus petitions signed by our community members.

2814
04:18:23,300 --> 04:18:31,600
Asking you to sparkle approving the TRPA mandated amendments.

2815
04:18:32,680 --> 04:18:37,460
Until you've studied the situation here for fiery evacuation,

2816
04:18:37,460 --> 04:18:41,820
You're in process of doing that, so I just repeat that, please.

2817
04:18:42,640 --> 04:18:49,800
But I have something else I want to share, and that is something about ADUs.

2818
04:18:50,080 --> 04:18:59,060
As you know, I have been protesting ADUs because of our crooked streets and because of

2819
04:18:59,060 --> 04:19:01,420
our small deformed locks.

2820
04:19:02,340 --> 04:19:07,900
And now I'd like to tell you that I know you think you're under the gun from the state to

2821
04:19:07,900 --> 04:19:16,620
do this. But I have something I'd like to read. AB396 enacted this year by the Nevada legislature,

2822
04:19:17,640 --> 04:19:24,140
mandates that wash of county enact ordinances authorizing ADUs on residential property.

2823
04:19:24,960 --> 04:19:35,960
And if such an ordinance is not adopted, ADUs are authorized by state law on any residential zone property without restriction.

2824
04:19:36,840 --> 04:19:43,260
So you needed to adopt an ordinance, you think, in order to have any control of the issue.

2825
04:19:44,100 --> 04:19:48,100
But there is a provision in the law, and in the bill that appears,

2826
04:19:48,520 --> 04:19:54,780
it says that an ordinance is not required in a region in a county or city in this state,

2827
04:19:55,280 --> 04:19:59,740
or which there has been created by interstate compact, a regional.

2828
04:20:00,000 --> 04:20:10,520
Planning, agency. And since the only regional planning agency of which I'm aware is TRPA, it means

2829
04:20:10,520 --> 04:20:18,440
that the state mandate for county ordinance as it relates to 80 use does not apply to incline

2830
04:20:18,440 --> 04:20:27,540
village. So I'm asking you once again, please do not crowd our acreage with additional housing

2831
04:20:27,540 --> 04:20:35,680
that we overuse our water supply and our electrical lines and our water lines and so on.

2832
04:20:36,880 --> 04:20:41,120
To say nothing of crowding the streets in the case of evacuation.

2833
04:20:41,980 --> 04:20:42,580
Thank you again.

2834
04:20:42,980 --> 04:20:43,920
Thank you.

2835
04:20:44,360 --> 04:20:46,120
We have nobody else signed in.

2836
04:20:46,360 --> 04:20:48,120
There are emails to be placed on the record.

2837
04:20:48,720 --> 04:20:49,600
Thank you, Madam Clerk.

2838
04:20:50,420 --> 04:20:52,740
And before I open it back over to the board,

2839
04:20:52,740 --> 04:21:02,740
I think it would be good to get some clarification from RDA Mr. Large on some of the statements

2840
04:21:02,740 --> 04:21:08,460
made about the requirements of adopting this and kind of what that would look like.

2841
04:21:08,460 --> 04:21:12,520
I think it would be helpful to get your read on this.

2842
04:21:12,740 --> 04:21:16,320
Michael Large for the record, Washington District Attorney's Office.

2843
04:21:16,840 --> 04:21:17,520
Thank you, Madam Chairman.

2844
04:21:20,360 --> 04:21:24,400
This is the complicated issue, and I understand the passion that is driving a lot of this.

2845
04:21:25,060 --> 04:21:31,180
From the legal standpoint, we've heard, as Ms. Oakley said, during her presentation, and

2846
04:21:31,180 --> 04:21:33,940
we've heard from a number of the public commenters.

2847
04:21:34,540 --> 04:21:37,940
These are TRPA mandated amendments.

2848
04:21:39,160 --> 04:21:41,740
TRPA's housing amendments preempt local regulatory authority.

2849
04:21:42,280 --> 04:21:42,860
We don't have a choice.

2850
04:21:43,000 --> 04:21:46,340
Whether we vote no or yes on this item today.

2851
04:21:46,340 --> 04:21:48,960
The housing amendments will go into effect.

2852
04:21:50,100 --> 04:21:54,360
A no vote will essentially mean that the TRPS had still go into effect.

2853
04:21:54,380 --> 04:21:58,940
The practical effect will be that the proposals by staff that we did get the carve-outs that

2854
04:21:58,940 --> 04:22:02,740
we did were able to obtain will not go into effect.

2855
04:22:02,920 --> 04:22:09,720
And neither will the cleanups for our, the other major issue is, if we're in jeopardy,

2856
04:22:09,720 --> 04:22:12,440
to make any changes in our area plan.

2857
04:22:13,320 --> 04:22:16,140
TRPA can assume control over all planning,

2858
04:22:16,600 --> 04:22:17,980
in incline village in Crystal Bay,

2859
04:22:18,440 --> 04:22:19,760
and Washington would have no input

2860
04:22:19,760 --> 04:22:21,580
until we pass those housing amendments.

2861
04:22:23,200 --> 04:22:24,860
The way TRPA is structured,

2862
04:22:25,300 --> 04:22:26,640
the compact went into effect.

2863
04:22:27,760 --> 04:22:30,980
TRPA, they have the ability to pass their own code of ordinances.

2864
04:22:31,100 --> 04:22:34,040
Those ordinances are binding on us in this area.

2865
04:22:34,880 --> 04:22:38,360
Our staff worked as reflected in the staff report

2866
04:22:38,360 --> 04:22:45,360
to try to get some of those things that were points of concern from our staff that we're reflecting

2867
04:22:45,360 --> 04:22:49,620
from our community, and we try to reduce some work around with that.

2868
04:22:49,660 --> 04:22:51,340
Those were rejected by TRPA.

2869
04:22:52,240 --> 04:23:00,800
So we're left with the choice between passing it or not passing it.

2870
04:23:01,000 --> 04:23:06,080
It's going to have the same practical effect, the housing amendment will go into effect, whether

2871
04:23:06,080 --> 04:23:06,980
we like it or not.

2872
04:23:06,980 --> 04:23:13,160
whether we're not, we can keep control over our planning and T-R in the Inclay village and

2873
04:23:13,160 --> 04:23:13,780
Crystal Bay Area.

2874
04:23:14,180 --> 04:23:14,900
That's the question.

2875
04:23:16,160 --> 04:23:16,580
Thank you.

2876
04:23:16,780 --> 04:23:21,040
And I think, you know, the cap can speak to that more closer, more better than I can.

2877
04:23:21,600 --> 04:23:23,560
But that would be by two cents on that.

2878
04:23:23,680 --> 04:23:24,800
Thank you very much.

2879
04:23:25,160 --> 04:23:27,400
And Ms. Oakley, do you have anything to add?

2880
04:23:34,280 --> 04:23:34,940
There it is.

2881
04:23:35,160 --> 04:23:35,220
Okay.

2882
04:23:35,380 --> 04:23:36,340
Catalogally, Washington, he planning.

2883
04:23:36,960 --> 04:23:37,920
Mr. Lodge covered it.

2884
04:23:39,000 --> 04:23:42,720
The kind of bottom line is that T-R-K-A does have the authority to determine whether or not

2885
04:23:42,720 --> 04:23:47,980
are area plan and the implementing regulation as they would call it as we would call it

2886
04:23:47,980 --> 04:23:54,580
to homotifiers or in conformance with their regional documents and if we end up in a situation

2887
04:23:54,580 --> 04:23:58,900
where we haven't adopted the face 2 housing amendments obviously we're not in conformance

2888
04:23:58,900 --> 04:24:06,060
and that would have potential implications on us being able to exercise the local regulatory authority

2889
04:24:06,060 --> 04:24:12,500
that this area plan enabled us to have around other issues as well.

2890
04:24:12,500 --> 04:24:20,440
So that was kind of the last point he was getting at that I think is important to our maintaining that that local authority.

2891
04:24:21,640 --> 04:24:23,600
So far as we have it over the Tahoe basin.

2892
04:24:24,540 --> 04:24:25,740
Thank you. All right.

2893
04:24:26,100 --> 04:24:29,320
Madam Chair, may in what I'm going to say please up there as well.

2894
04:24:30,520 --> 04:24:36,760
An evacuation study is not going to impact CRPA's housing amendments, the housing mandate.

2895
04:24:36,760 --> 04:24:42,840
the idea of tabling this until a later date that is brought up, and I understand that that is,

2896
04:24:44,560 --> 04:24:51,140
they require, TRPA is required to make certain incentives, and that mandate does not include criteria regarding evacuation.

2897
04:24:53,600 --> 04:24:59,440
And so the TRPA housing amendments would not be influenced by anything that that plan would come up with.

2898
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:07,180
Subsequent to that evacuation plan coming out, there may be changes, and that may TRPA may want to address,

2899
04:25:07,840 --> 04:25:13,900
hopefully that we can improve potentially evacuation scenarios. But in terms of these housing

2900
04:25:13,900 --> 04:25:19,480
minutes that are for you today, that evacuation plan wouldn't go into effect. And as Miss Oakley mentioned

2901
04:25:19,480 --> 04:25:29,980
earlier, the deadline for this was in December of 2024 that we were to implement this, because we've

2902
04:25:29,980 --> 04:25:35,940
to you, I'm just going to make the decision that they are not going to impose these housing

2903
04:25:35,940 --> 04:25:37,360
amendments without our support.

2904
04:25:38,620 --> 04:25:39,620
Thank you.

2905
04:25:39,620 --> 04:25:40,540
Thank you very much.

2906
04:25:41,320 --> 04:25:41,600
All right.

2907
04:25:41,780 --> 04:25:43,680
I will open it up to the Board.

2908
04:25:44,160 --> 04:25:44,980
Commissioner Garcia.

2909
04:25:45,960 --> 04:25:46,900
Thank you, Madam Chair.

2910
04:25:47,140 --> 04:25:52,360
You know, it's tough starting with the legal because of all the public comment we receive,

2911
04:25:52,580 --> 04:25:57,480
the emails, the e-comment, the signatures on the petition, and it's hard.

2912
04:25:57,480 --> 04:26:05,040
you know when you see this outpouring of concern and you raise some very valid points and we fall

2913
04:26:05,040 --> 04:26:11,740
back on at least I do the legal advice of our county and unfortunately this one is really

2914
04:26:11,740 --> 04:26:17,040
complicated and I first wanted just to validate your concerns and thank you for speaking out.

2915
04:26:17,200 --> 04:26:22,140
This is a tough one but I also wanted to share what the county is also being done.

2916
04:26:22,140 --> 04:26:28,440
Item 16 doesn't talk about fire, doesn't talk about fire evacuation, but if I had a dollar

2917
04:26:28,440 --> 04:26:32,240
fair retirement came up just today or in the emails we received over the last few days.

2918
04:26:32,840 --> 04:26:34,500
It is a major concern for you all.

2919
04:26:34,820 --> 04:26:39,380
And as you know, we are all fire commissioners for trekking metters fire protection district.

2920
04:26:39,400 --> 04:26:40,940
It is a hat we wear regularly.

2921
04:26:41,360 --> 04:26:43,600
It is a lens that we look through all the time.

2922
04:26:44,120 --> 04:26:50,600
And as somebody who lives in a part of unincorporated wash of county that has only three entrances

2923
04:26:50,600 --> 04:26:53,700
And three exits is three ways in, three ways out,

2924
04:26:53,720 --> 04:26:57,300
and we're surrounded by mountains with 20,000 people.

2925
04:26:57,680 --> 04:27:00,080
I feel your concerns, I hear you loud and clear

2926
04:27:00,080 --> 04:27:02,000
that this is something that is real,

2927
04:27:02,380 --> 04:27:04,500
and that fear, there's nothing that we're ever going to say,

2928
04:27:04,660 --> 04:27:06,780
or do that's going to help ease that stress.

2929
04:27:07,100 --> 04:27:11,200
So I did want to take a moment, if I could kick it over to Dave Solero,

2930
04:27:11,240 --> 04:27:12,620
just to give us a quick update.

2931
04:27:12,820 --> 04:27:15,460
So we know that we're working on it,

2932
04:27:15,640 --> 04:27:17,540
and we are looking forward to making progress

2933
04:27:17,540 --> 04:27:19,240
in this very important area.

2934
04:27:19,240 --> 04:27:25,620
I appreciate that for the record, Dave Solaro, Assistant County Manager, and as earlier we

2935
04:27:25,620 --> 04:27:30,180
proclaimed August Emergency Management Awareness Month, I think it's important to understand

2936
04:27:30,180 --> 04:27:35,180
that Washington is always working through emergency management needs and issues.

2937
04:27:35,760 --> 04:27:39,740
We have 13 identified hazards in our area, and so fire is one of those.

2938
04:27:40,220 --> 04:27:44,060
All of the studies and everything we do actually takes into effect, what do we do when all

2939
04:27:44,060 --> 04:27:44,820
of those things occur?

2940
04:27:45,040 --> 04:27:49,220
And so I think it's really important to understand that while February 25th, 2015,

2941
04:27:49,220 --> 04:27:55,940
in 2025, we accepted a donation to create an evacuation study, really what that's to do is to

2942
04:27:55,940 --> 04:28:00,460
identify the most vulnerable locations in our communities, whether it's incline village,

2943
04:28:01,020 --> 04:28:05,860
or Colin Ranch, or the city arena, depending on where it is based on all of those hazards,

2944
04:28:06,140 --> 04:28:12,700
so that we can identify what needs to occur in those areas when it comes to mitigation of the

2945
04:28:12,700 --> 04:28:17,540
possible evacuation needs. We have heard from public comment today that there's a lack of

2946
04:28:17,940 --> 04:28:21,560
locations in and out. I think that can be actually said for a lot of locations within

2947
04:28:21,560 --> 04:28:26,900
wash of county. If you look at cold springs as an example, there's two ways in and out.

2948
04:28:27,380 --> 04:28:33,720
One less than what the incline village area has. But when you take a look at the fuel

2949
04:28:33,720 --> 04:28:36,740
loading and all of the different things, the mitigation, all those things that they're going to.

2950
04:28:36,740 --> 04:28:40,000
That's really what we're studying to really identify those vulnerable locations within

2951
04:28:40,000 --> 04:28:44,600
wash of county so that we can create the plan to make sure that we are doing what we need to do.

2952
04:28:44,600 --> 04:28:51,400
And as Council large mentioned, this may change what we've got to do with our planning and things in the future.

2953
04:28:52,020 --> 04:28:55,600
But it really has no effect on this Tahoe area plan as it stands today.

2954
04:28:56,320 --> 04:28:58,820
So I hope that's the information that you were looking for.

2955
04:28:59,240 --> 04:29:04,760
And I'm glad you asked Mr. Slayer about that evacuation study.

2956
04:29:04,980 --> 04:29:07,800
Do you know the timing of that by any chance?

2957
04:29:07,800 --> 04:29:12,840
So again, for the record, Dave Solaro, I do know that we are working through putting the RFQ

2958
04:29:12,840 --> 04:29:13,060
out.

2959
04:29:13,200 --> 04:29:17,660
We've met with stakeholders from all of our citizens advisory board meeting or, sorry,

2960
04:29:18,400 --> 04:29:22,720
citizens advisory boards with other, you know, the fire districts, all of those people

2961
04:29:22,720 --> 04:29:28,940
to put together the scope of work, not only for the actual study itself, but also the analysis

2962
04:29:28,940 --> 04:29:31,400
of the evacuation routes and all of those other sorts of things.

2963
04:29:31,800 --> 04:29:35,040
So it's pretty, pretty involved study, and again, it goes all across,

2964
04:29:35,040 --> 04:29:37,380
Washington County and to include city renown city sports.

2965
04:29:37,740 --> 04:29:38,780
Great, thank you.

2966
04:29:38,900 --> 04:29:40,200
Commissioner Adrian Drillett.

2967
04:29:41,920 --> 04:29:42,680
Thank you, Madam Chair.

2968
04:29:43,240 --> 04:29:45,320
I too would like to echo a lot.

2969
04:29:45,560 --> 04:29:49,160
What was already shared in terms of Commissioner Garcia,

2970
04:29:50,840 --> 04:29:55,560
this is the part of being a commissioner that quite frankly.

2971
04:29:56,340 --> 04:29:59,960
If you look at the can book of the duty.

2972
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:08,580
Please have a commissioner part of it defines a hearing much like this that creates a judicial framework.

2973
04:30:09,740 --> 04:30:18,380
So even though we are not judges and we're not attorneys, we have to depend on legal counsel to give us guidance.

2974
04:30:18,380 --> 04:30:32,280
And we all have the opportunity, I'm sure, to have met with staff prior to this, and one of the questions that I wanted clarification was what if we do vote no.

2975
04:30:34,040 --> 04:30:38,720
Without even hearing anything and your concerns are valid and your concerns are concerning.

2976
04:30:38,720 --> 04:30:46,500
If we put a moratorium, the TRPA would ignore that and put in already what's going to be

2977
04:30:46,500 --> 04:30:47,560
put into place.

2978
04:30:48,400 --> 04:30:56,080
And in fact, if we did the right thing and stand up to voting no, TRPA would put it in place.

2979
04:30:56,700 --> 04:31:06,020
If we actually created a condition of saying we won't do this, we're going to vote no,

2980
04:31:06,020 --> 04:31:11,900
or vote yes with conditions to your P.A. doesn't have to abide by those.

2981
04:31:12,600 --> 04:31:20,680
And the reality is, as I've December 24, 2024, to your P.A. could have put all of the

2982
04:31:20,680 --> 04:31:27,360
conditions and the outline of these amendments as they wanted them, but what's your

2983
04:31:27,360 --> 04:31:31,480
any staff worked on things and listening to you.

2984
04:31:32,140 --> 04:31:37,860
So as an example, when I met with staff, it was clear of parking.

2985
04:31:38,540 --> 04:31:46,600
You know, everyone is very blessed to have a beautiful jewel that many of us know and you all

2986
04:31:46,600 --> 04:31:50,520
enjoy in our backyard, but we all know about parking.

2987
04:31:50,520 --> 04:31:58,780
And Washow County actually reduced the parking that was already recommended by Terrapay and made it actually and reduced it.

2988
04:31:59,100 --> 04:32:05,800
So there are provisions at Washow County put into place that much align with some of the things that are concerning,

2989
04:32:06,960 --> 04:32:14,540
not only to the folks that are here but the folks who shared their comments from Incline.

2990
04:32:14,540 --> 04:32:26,120
And the reality is that I don't think it's prudent to restrict wash-o-counties ability to

2991
04:32:26,120 --> 04:32:33,980
have a say in the wash-o-county master plan that governs in clean villages, as an example.

2992
04:32:35,140 --> 04:32:43,840
If we vote no, TRPA will actually take that authority, essentially, away, and create, we

2993
04:32:43,840 --> 04:32:49,460
be constrained to whatever they say, which could be worse in this case. I'm giving the example

2994
04:32:49,460 --> 04:32:57,040
of parking that made things better. If we say no, TRPA is going to do this. I don't know, I don't

2995
04:32:57,040 --> 04:33:05,020
know how else to make this any clearer. And I really appreciate, you know, Chair Hill, you asking

2996
04:33:06,180 --> 04:33:12,500
for clarification on that because I think it's important that everyone hears this. Do we want to

2997
04:33:13,840 --> 04:33:17,300
override the TRP on various things.

2998
04:33:18,120 --> 04:33:22,320
Well, we don't have that ability to do it.

2999
04:33:22,700 --> 04:33:29,540
And the extension that was given from December of 2024 to now

3000
04:33:29,540 --> 04:33:32,600
allowed some of those provisions, as I've already mentioned.

3001
04:33:33,560 --> 04:33:40,720
And so as tough as this is, I think some of the energy should

3002
04:34:10,480 --> 04:34:10,700
Also, for all of the residents that are concerned about the

3003
04:34:10,700 --> 04:34:17,720
as an example. In this case, we don't get to override TRPA. We were given the opportunity and

3004
04:34:17,720 --> 04:34:26,220
thanks to staff for actually working as best they could. And the TRPA for giving staff the ability

3005
04:34:26,220 --> 04:34:31,180
to work through those. I'm sure those weren't necessarily the easiest meetings either.

3006
04:34:32,120 --> 04:34:40,240
But they were trying and that's where we landed. So I just need everyone to understand this is very

3007
04:34:40,240 --> 04:34:46,280
difficult. It's very, very difficult to uphold the compliance of what we're required to do.

3008
04:34:47,440 --> 04:34:53,440
And I know that it seems that you don't believe us, I think, and so I don't know if I should ask

3009
04:34:53,440 --> 04:34:59,760
council again to repeat what he said because I'm seeing some folks shaking heads as if.

3010
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:11,420
That council is not giving us correct advice. And if that is true, then there's challenges that could be made, but we have responsibility to listen to council.

3011
04:35:12,200 --> 04:35:22,660
And I'm going to listen to council. And I'm going to think against staff for going through this process. And in doing the research, this has been going on since 2021, essentially.

3012
04:35:22,660 --> 04:35:31,760
And the research I looked at and all of the meetings, and I also would like to thank

3013
04:35:31,760 --> 04:35:40,220
DRD large for being really clear on what authority we have, and what the governing authority

3014
04:35:40,220 --> 04:35:43,620
that TRPA has over Washow County.

3015
04:35:44,480 --> 04:35:50,720
So it is important that your voice is heard, but only to the extent that we can legally act.

3016
04:35:50,720 --> 04:35:54,300
I'm that's the constraint that we are faced with.

3017
04:35:55,260 --> 04:35:57,840
So, I know that's hard.

3018
04:35:58,120 --> 04:35:59,140
It's hard listening.

3019
04:35:59,520 --> 04:36:04,560
There's concerns I have to believe that if the evacuation

3020
04:36:04,560 --> 04:36:13,760
study does reveal various things that need to be changed to accommodate the public safety

3021
04:36:13,760 --> 04:36:18,220
that the TRPA will actually take that into consideration.

3022
04:36:18,220 --> 04:36:27,300
I spoke with legal counsel about that very point to ensure that if that has any provision

3023
04:36:27,300 --> 04:36:35,200
of, or more than one provision that puts people's safety in jeopardy that the TRPA that

3024
04:36:35,200 --> 04:36:41,520
Washington can bring that to the TRPA and exercise as best as it can accommodations to

3025
04:36:41,520 --> 04:36:48,200
address whatever needs to change and that can happen but the ultimate authority falls

3026
04:36:48,200 --> 04:36:58,640
with the TRPA. I lived here for 38 years and one of the public commenters I believe one

3027
04:36:58,640 --> 04:37:05,380
made it very distinct and saying I really never worried about anything that was concerning

3028
04:37:05,380 --> 04:37:13,480
about where I lived because of the TRPA and it has changed is what I remember the public

3029
04:37:13,480 --> 04:37:21,080
comment or addressing but that was true and if it has changed I think again there's opportunities

3030
04:37:21,080 --> 04:37:28,480
for you to look at how you can actually at a high level look at having that change but we can't

3031
04:37:28,480 --> 04:37:37,180
do it here. We don't have that authority. So again thank you for sharing all of your concerns

3032
04:37:37,180 --> 04:37:45,280
which are valid and I too am going to be eager to learn what the study is going to

3033
04:37:45,280 --> 04:37:52,340
reveal as well. And I hope if there are concerns that those again are exercise for serious

3034
04:37:52,340 --> 04:37:57,500
review by the TRPA. So thank you so much. Thank you. Commissioner Clark.

3035
04:38:00,570 --> 04:38:01,490
Thank you, Madam Chair.

3036
04:38:03,350 --> 04:38:07,450
We've had public comment this morning. We've had public comment this afternoon.

3037
04:38:08,490 --> 04:38:18,290
Ron DeTicener shows up with 260 names that oppose this Steve Dolan spoke twice this afternoon and this morning.

3038
04:38:18,290 --> 04:38:26,190
done flanity, made his comments, Richard Miner, Jack Dalton's, against even

3039
04:38:26,190 --> 04:38:31,030
olden, Roxanna Dunn, Christine, and a hill, a former, I believe she said to

3040
04:38:31,030 --> 04:38:35,630
he was the chair of TRPA, so she gave some insightful information about their

3041
04:38:35,630 --> 04:38:40,850
position, water quality, lots and lots and lots and lots of reasons.

3042
04:38:43,470 --> 04:38:47,570
If there was a sports book here, and we had a place of bad, how do you

3043
04:38:47,570 --> 04:38:53,530
I think this vote's going to go, okay, all right, so think about that.

3044
04:38:53,870 --> 04:39:01,850
We've got a situation now where the big bad wolf, the boogie man in the room is TRPA.

3045
04:39:02,710 --> 04:39:06,450
I wasn't voted into office by anybody at TRPA.

3046
04:39:06,870 --> 04:39:09,970
I was voted in the office by the citizens of this county.

3047
04:39:10,450 --> 04:39:15,570
The citizens of the county expect the folks on this dius to stand up for what they're looking

3048
04:39:15,570 --> 04:39:16,090
for.

3049
04:39:16,090 --> 04:39:17,830
And that's not going to happen.

3050
04:39:18,370 --> 04:39:20,610
What's going to happen is we rationalize

3051
04:39:20,610 --> 04:39:23,030
if we don't do it, whether they're going to do to us?

3052
04:39:23,450 --> 04:39:25,770
Well, here's what our American would do.

3053
04:39:26,090 --> 04:39:28,110
They would stand up to TRPA.

3054
04:39:28,590 --> 04:39:30,850
And we would say, this is what we want to do.

3055
04:39:31,090 --> 04:39:33,130
This is what our citizens want to do.

3056
04:39:33,310 --> 04:39:35,290
And this is what we should be doing.

3057
04:39:35,730 --> 04:39:38,970
And so you as citizens don't have much of a voice,

3058
04:39:39,170 --> 04:39:40,550
even here in this county.

3059
04:39:41,110 --> 04:39:43,330
And you even have less of a voice with TRPA.

3060
04:39:43,330 --> 04:39:51,890
But maybe just maybe wash-o-county commissioners could have a voice at the table with TRPA and get some things straight and out there.

3061
04:39:52,150 --> 04:39:54,190
So that's going to be my position on this.

3062
04:39:54,550 --> 04:39:59,390
I'm going to oppose this and I'm going to support the people because the people...

3063
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:10,580
Of the one paying the freight air, paying the taxes, keeping this county running, and we want to make sure that our constituents are happy with the service we provide.

3064
04:40:11,000 --> 04:40:23,400
We want to be the voice to TRPA to stand up and say, we don't like this. Our citizens don't like this. So this stuff of if we don't do it, they're going to do it to us, who we, this is America.

3065
04:40:23,400 --> 04:40:30,440
You know, Americans don't, you know, laws and rules are made by men and women and laws and

3066
04:40:30,440 --> 04:40:35,160
rules and regulations can be changed by men and women and that's what I'm suggesting.

3067
04:40:35,880 --> 04:40:41,160
We stand up as a group and stand up for our citizens and go to TRPA and get this figured

3068
04:40:41,160 --> 04:40:41,740
out.

3069
04:40:41,820 --> 04:40:49,600
To me, this is all about public safety, narrow roads, high density, all of this stuff

3070
04:40:49,600 --> 04:40:57,780
is public safety, so from a public safety standpoint and a public safety standpoint only we

3071
04:40:57,780 --> 04:41:02,880
should be supporting the folks that live up there and have to live up there and deal with

3072
04:41:02,880 --> 04:41:03,180
this.

3073
04:41:03,360 --> 04:41:07,880
The people are paying some of the highest property taxes in the county I want to remind everybody

3074
04:41:09,540 --> 04:41:16,380
and stand up and support those folks and go to TRPA and say this is what our citizens want.

3075
04:41:17,240 --> 04:41:25,020
not what you want. We voted in by the citizens of this county, not anybody by TRPA. Believe

3076
04:41:25,020 --> 04:41:29,560
me, if they had a vote for me, I wouldn't be here. I can assure you that. Okay? And

3077
04:41:29,560 --> 04:41:36,200
the same for the rest of them. You know, this is not about what TRPA wants to do. This is what

3078
04:41:36,200 --> 04:41:41,580
the citizens want us to do on their behalf. So I won't be supporting this. Thank you.

3079
04:41:41,580 --> 04:41:42,080
I

3080
04:41:49,950 --> 04:41:52,170
appreciate everyone's comments today.

3081
04:41:52,610 --> 04:42:03,190
I know that there are concerns in the community and evacuation is something that is very important to this board.

3082
04:42:03,930 --> 04:42:08,390
We have been pushing staff to get this evacuation study done.

3083
04:42:08,810 --> 04:42:13,250
It's moving forward and we're really excited to get the results of that.

3084
04:42:13,250 --> 04:42:21,370
I know that I also just don't want to discount our emergency management team who works with

3085
04:42:21,370 --> 04:42:28,870
our fire departments and our sheriff's departments and other agencies all around this area

3086
04:42:28,870 --> 04:42:40,030
to do exercises and evacuation work. And so I think to make any claims that there are no plans

3087
04:42:40,030 --> 04:42:46,230
on if there's an emergency and incline villager crystal bay, I don't think that that is

3088
04:42:46,230 --> 04:42:52,290
a appropriate thing to say and I must say on the record that our team is working on those things

3089
04:42:52,290 --> 04:42:59,590
all the time working on exercises tabletop and also physical real evacuations all the time in the

3090
04:42:59,590 --> 04:43:08,090
community and take that very seriously. I think that when we're talking about the environment,

3091
04:43:08,090 --> 04:43:16,290
And we also need to remember that vehicles are an major contributor to Lake Clarity as well.

3092
04:43:16,950 --> 04:43:21,690
And having folks live in the community that they serve is very important.

3093
04:43:22,970 --> 04:43:27,850
And I've told stories of many people and in the Incline Village and Crystal Bay community

3094
04:43:27,850 --> 04:43:31,190
who aren't here, they can't come to these meetings.

3095
04:43:31,730 --> 04:43:35,330
But they would love to live in the community that they serve.

3096
04:43:35,330 --> 04:43:40,310
I talked to the principles of the schools in town.

3097
04:43:40,330 --> 04:43:41,650
I talked to the hospitals.

3098
04:43:42,050 --> 04:43:46,370
I talked to the grocery stores, as well as the bowling alley

3099
04:43:46,370 --> 04:43:50,010
and all of the different amenities in the community.

3100
04:43:50,270 --> 04:43:53,730
And they would appreciate having better public transportation,

3101
04:43:54,570 --> 04:43:57,730
which obviously occurs with higher densities.

3102
04:43:58,110 --> 04:44:01,770
And then also they would like to have their employees

3103
04:44:01,770 --> 04:44:03,890
who would like to live in the basin and to live there.

3104
04:44:03,890 --> 04:44:13,510
I don't think realistically, this is going to be you're going to see some sort of Manhattan

3105
04:44:14,050 --> 04:44:19,690
like Project and Incline Village, there's very few parcels that this could probably

3106
04:44:19,690 --> 04:44:22,370
happen on and these need to be deed restricted.

3107
04:44:23,710 --> 04:44:32,470
I think that the point about Washow County working with TRPA on deed restrictions is a good

3108
04:44:32,470 --> 04:44:38,430
fair point, and something that I have been talking internally to the Washow County staff on,

3109
04:44:38,770 --> 04:44:43,930
and I think that there's some work to be done there, but TRPA has done a really good job on

3110
04:44:45,210 --> 04:44:52,850
really managing those deed restrictions. So I think that this is the right move for Incline

3111
04:44:52,850 --> 04:44:59,970
Village and Crystal Bay, and I know it's difficult, but I think that it's going to improve quality of life.

3112
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:06,320
For everyone, and ensure that we can have a workforce in the community.

3113
04:45:07,100 --> 04:45:12,540
So, I am prepared to make the motion. If there's no other commissioners who have comments,

3114
04:45:12,800 --> 04:45:22,700
I'm not seeing any that do. And so, I move to adopt ordinance, number 1743, which is an ordinance

3115
04:45:22,700 --> 04:45:30,460
Mending Washow County Code Chapter 110 with an article's 220, the Tahoe area, and 220.1,

3116
04:45:30,760 --> 04:45:37,400
Tahoe area design standards, and attachment B, and connected where there are two subject

3117
04:45:37,400 --> 04:45:43,560
to finding the conformance with the Tahoe Regional Plan and adoption by the Tahoe Regional

3118
04:45:43,560 --> 04:45:52,680
Planning Agency, adopt the Master Plan Amendment case, WMPA25-001, which is an amendment to the

3119
04:45:52,680 --> 04:46:00,320
as provided in attachment C. Exhibit C1. I am looking for a second. Thank you Commissioner Garcia.

3120
04:46:00,420 --> 04:46:05,740
We have a motion and a second. Any questions from the board on that? All those in favor? Please say aye.

3121
04:46:06,620 --> 04:46:09,420
Aye. Any opposed? Please say nay. Aye.

3122
04:46:16,880 --> 04:46:20,260
All right. That motion passes three to one and Commissioner

3123
04:46:20,260 --> 04:46:27,420
Clark is in the negative. So thank you very much everyone for your time on that today. We are now

3124
04:46:27,420 --> 04:46:32,280
going to move to our final public or public comment, Mr. Slero.

3125
04:46:32,880 --> 04:46:34,380
Item number 17 is public comment.

3126
04:46:34,440 --> 04:46:37,620
Comment heard under this item will be limited to three minutes per person and may

3127
04:46:37,620 --> 04:46:39,740
pertain to matters both on and off the question agenda.

3128
04:46:40,380 --> 04:46:43,760
Unused time may not be allocated to other speakers and comments are to be made to

3129
04:46:43,760 --> 04:46:44,680
the commission as a whole.

3130
04:46:45,100 --> 04:46:45,740
Thank you very much.

3131
04:46:45,940 --> 04:46:46,680
Madam Clerk.

3132
04:46:48,360 --> 04:46:49,320
Katherine ERT.

3133
04:46:49,920 --> 04:46:51,100
Followed by Pennybrock.

3134
04:46:55,470 --> 04:46:57,050
You've been waiting a long time.

3135
04:46:57,370 --> 04:46:58,910
You know, I wasn't here planning to speak.

3136
04:47:00,910 --> 04:47:02,690
So, yeah, thank you for this.

3137
04:47:03,090 --> 04:47:04,250
My name is Katherine Yarté.

3138
04:47:04,730 --> 04:47:07,090
I was actually planning to speak the wild horse issues

3139
04:47:07,090 --> 04:47:08,570
when I came to hear.

3140
04:47:09,750 --> 04:47:12,470
I obviously have a heavy background in horse management.

3141
04:47:13,090 --> 04:47:15,510
My husband and I have been horse trainers for the last 10 years

3142
04:47:15,510 --> 04:47:17,990
and we've trained well over 100 Mustangs

3143
04:47:17,990 --> 04:47:21,110
in our time, at least two dozen of those being for

3144
04:47:21,110 --> 04:47:21,930
junior-range horses.

3145
04:47:23,070 --> 04:47:25,730
I say all that to say that I also have history

3146
04:47:25,730 --> 04:47:28,170
volunteering with the BLM and doing

3147
04:47:28,170 --> 04:47:34,810
management doing adoptions and that sort of thing. One of the issues that I just

3148
04:47:34,810 --> 04:47:38,670
like, kind of my little soapbox, sorry, I didn't prepare comments on a little

3149
04:47:38,670 --> 04:47:41,190
scattered, and that was a lot to go through.

3150
04:47:43,290 --> 04:47:45,730
Is the biggest issue with the Virginia

3151
04:47:45,730 --> 04:47:51,230
resources because they are not under the federal protection. They live in this gray

3152
04:47:51,230 --> 04:47:57,970
area between livestock and wild. And it's a disservice to the horses and it's a

3153
04:47:57,970 --> 04:48:01,790
service to the community. The reason they're overpopulated is there is no management.

3154
04:48:02,130 --> 04:48:05,650
There is no amount of birth control. There's decades of research showing the birth control

3155
04:48:05,650 --> 04:48:12,730
is ineffective on multiple ranges. And the history of the horse population's growth shows

3156
04:48:12,730 --> 04:48:19,790
that. That birth control is ineffective even in smaller ranges. It's been proven. So I just

3157
04:48:19,790 --> 04:48:26,490
say that to make sure that there is a lot of concern, I think it's really valid that at least

3158
04:48:26,490 --> 04:48:31,070
for getting the feds thing done, but this will continue to be an issue until the actual

3159
04:48:31,070 --> 04:48:35,130
issue is addressed, which is classifying them somewhere between, they can't live in this

3160
04:48:35,130 --> 04:48:38,790
gray area, between livestock and wild animal.

3161
04:48:39,030 --> 04:48:42,850
If they're wild animals, they need to be managed as wild animals, not providing them food,

3162
04:48:42,910 --> 04:48:46,650
not providing them water, but managing them, whatever that means.

3163
04:48:47,170 --> 04:48:51,050
As a horse lover, I don't love the idea of calls, but I also recognize that what they

3164
04:48:51,050 --> 04:48:54,010
are living under right now is not sustainable for anyone.

3165
04:48:54,010 --> 04:49:00,210
And if they are livestock, then they need to be managed as livestock, which is going to be

3166
04:49:00,210 --> 04:49:04,610
rotating them off the range as controlling population in areas, where there is not enough

3167
04:49:04,610 --> 04:49:04,930
forage.

3168
04:49:04,950 --> 04:49:09,490
They are degradating the land, any animal that's that overpopulated will degrade the land

3169
04:49:09,490 --> 04:49:15,790
that they're on, and that is something for the horses welfare that needs to be addressed.

3170
04:49:16,290 --> 04:49:21,010
Additionally, while there are non-profits that do manage the horses on the range, it's

3171
04:49:21,010 --> 04:49:26,170
very selective management, and one of the things that we see not so much in

3172
04:49:26,170 --> 04:49:30,030
wash-o County, but there's a very dense population in silver springs where

3173
04:49:30,030 --> 04:49:34,770
the horses have genetic defects such as club feet that are incredibly painful,

3174
04:49:35,230 --> 04:49:37,230
and those horses are allowed to continue to breed.

3175
04:49:37,310 --> 04:49:41,210
If that's a genetic flaw, those horses will continue to create even more on healthy

3176
04:49:41,210 --> 04:49:41,690
horses.

3177
04:49:42,270 --> 04:49:46,630
So proper management means healthy range lands for all animals on the range,

3178
04:49:47,090 --> 04:49:49,090
not just the ones that we feel special about.

3179
04:49:49,990 --> 04:49:56,330
And, of course, this cannot continue to live in a gray area successfully for the people or for the animals themselves.

3180
04:49:56,990 --> 04:49:57,270
That's all I got.

3181
04:49:57,670 --> 04:49:58,210
Thank you.

3182
04:49:58,430 --> 04:49:58,890
Thank you.

3183
04:49:59,210 --> 04:49:59,870
Penny Brock.

3184
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:02,280
Followed by Pamela, Mahoney, sickness.

3185
04:50:12,530 --> 04:50:21,570
Penny Brock for the record. As you may know, yesterday, the state in Nevada got a cyber attack that came out later in the day. It was a cyber attack.

3186
04:50:22,750 --> 04:50:28,110
As a result, this article says Nevada government shut down, after cyber attack did it.

3187
04:50:28,110 --> 04:50:34,510
Washington County. I only know from the elections standpoint, because our elections department

3188
04:50:36,090 --> 04:50:44,330
feeds into the state of Nevada, our voter registration feeds into Nevada. Also, the DMV

3189
04:50:44,330 --> 04:50:52,750
and they do voter registration. So what does this mean for elections? One of the concerns is as a result

3190
04:50:52,750 --> 04:51:01,810
of the Department of Justice investigating the state of Nevada elections from 2020 and moving

3191
04:51:01,810 --> 04:51:08,070
forward is that the Secretary of State, this started in June.

3192
04:51:08,450 --> 04:51:14,150
At the same time, the Secretary of State, Adagular, said that Dominion is, they are updating

3193
04:51:14,150 --> 04:51:19,850
the Dominion equipment and that election data will be lost.

3194
04:51:20,850 --> 04:51:27,210
Your job is to preserve our records, our voting records for five years.

3195
04:51:28,190 --> 04:51:35,590
I would, and you are responsible for the election's department, not the intern county manager,

3196
04:51:36,970 --> 04:51:39,590
but you are elected county commissioners.

3197
04:51:39,770 --> 04:51:43,630
So I would ask that you investigate this.

3198
04:51:43,630 --> 04:51:51,210
you find out have our voting records from the last five years, which includes 2020, did

3199
04:51:51,210 --> 04:51:59,430
those disappear? I sent a public records request and ask about this. What I got back said,

3200
04:51:59,490 --> 04:52:08,010
well, Dominion was last updated in 2023, but they did not update this 2025 update happening

3201
04:52:08,010 --> 04:52:16,970
By the Secretary of State, in every county that has dominion, well probably ES and ES, 15 counties have dominion.

3202
04:52:17,870 --> 04:52:25,930
Two counties have what's called ES and ES, which is just as bad as dominion, but I assume those two are also being updated.

3203
04:52:26,230 --> 04:52:26,850
Those two counties.

3204
04:52:27,410 --> 04:52:32,110
But my county, our concern is about what's happening in Washington County.

3205
04:52:32,110 --> 04:52:39,090
So I would ask you as the commissioners who oversee your responsible, the Department of Justice

3206
04:52:39,090 --> 04:52:45,230
will knock on the commissioner doors about this, probably the county manager also, but

3207
04:52:45,230 --> 04:52:50,430
not to the degree of the county commissioners, because legally you are responsible.

3208
04:52:51,130 --> 04:52:57,670
So I would ask you to find out if our voting records from the last five years have been

3209
04:52:57,670 --> 04:52:58,990
destroyed or will be destroyed.

3210
04:52:58,990 --> 04:53:02,170
But this is supposed to be done, I think, by the end of August, this update.

3211
04:53:02,850 --> 04:53:03,770
Thank you.

3212
04:53:04,010 --> 04:53:04,630
Thank you.

3213
04:53:05,630 --> 04:53:09,290
Pamela, I'm Mahoney, Siktenis, followed by Roxana Dunn.

3214
04:53:12,920 --> 04:53:18,940
This has been an exhausting day, but it's also been an exhausting several years.

3215
04:53:19,960 --> 04:53:25,360
A few of the commissioners mentioned that we should be looking at the TRPA and the state.

3216
04:53:25,780 --> 04:53:26,700
Well, guess what?

3217
04:53:26,700 --> 04:53:35,040
we have vent. The difference is all of us who have routinely showed up at TRPA meetings

3218
04:53:35,040 --> 04:53:42,360
at the state legislature giving comment, doing research, begging and pleading for

3219
04:53:42,360 --> 04:53:56,680
our public servants to do what's in the best interest of the public. We looked at every

3220
04:53:56,680 --> 04:53:58,480
So I just want to make it very clear.

3221
04:53:58,860 --> 04:54:00,540
This is not our first attempt.

3222
04:54:01,220 --> 04:54:02,740
You're our last resort.

3223
04:54:03,380 --> 04:54:06,960
And we look to you today to stand with us.

3224
04:54:07,220 --> 04:54:09,080
I want to point out your mission,

3225
04:54:09,500 --> 04:54:12,840
which is to work together to provide and sustain

3226
04:54:12,840 --> 04:54:15,940
a safe, secure, and healthy community.

3227
04:54:16,860 --> 04:54:19,740
Your vote today, by the way, thank you, Commissioner Clark,

3228
04:54:20,120 --> 04:54:21,360
for standing up for the citizens.

3229
04:54:22,400 --> 04:54:25,700
Just proved you need to just scrub out that mission,

3230
04:54:25,700 --> 04:54:28,700
because you're clearly not upholding it.

3231
04:54:30,220 --> 04:54:32,240
Does council pay your salary?

3232
04:54:33,240 --> 04:54:34,280
I don't think so.

3233
04:54:34,680 --> 04:54:36,760
Just TRPA pay your salary.

3234
04:54:37,220 --> 04:54:38,280
I don't think so.

3235
04:54:38,640 --> 04:54:40,640
We pay your salary.

3236
04:54:41,880 --> 04:54:44,880
The cowardice demonstrated on this diet today

3237
04:54:45,240 --> 04:54:46,940
takes my breath away.

3238
04:54:47,900 --> 04:54:51,440
Honestly, you all should not be in public servant roles

3239
04:54:51,440 --> 04:54:54,300
if you're not willing to do the hard work.

3240
04:54:54,300 --> 04:54:59,980
The hard work is figuring out what the needs of your constituents are and

3241
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:09,440
Doing what's right by them. Otherwise, stop collecting your salary. I am just stunned by what I've witnessed here today.

3242
04:55:09,800 --> 04:55:17,460
We came to you looking for help and you turned your backs on us. I hope you can live with that.

3243
04:55:19,670 --> 04:55:21,910
Brexit and it done, followed by Alexander,

3244
04:55:22,490 --> 04:55:23,270
and Sidonis.

3245
04:55:27,460 --> 04:55:28,700
Sorry, a little more abuse.

3246
04:55:29,880 --> 04:55:35,280
An earlier draft of the comments I gave regarding the TAP amendments,

3247
04:55:35,980 --> 04:55:39,920
ended with, I know this means a fight with TRPA.

3248
04:55:40,540 --> 04:55:44,300
I hope that you are up for it because I know we are.

3249
04:55:45,280 --> 04:55:48,420
I took it out, because I thought it was a little too contentious.

3250
04:55:48,420 --> 04:55:54,540
I now realize that being contentious is exactly what we need here.

3251
04:55:55,600 --> 04:56:01,660
We are selling out the bigger issues of evacuation danger and luxury housing in the

3252
04:56:01,660 --> 04:56:06,600
guise of workforce housing for the crumb concession of parking.

3253
04:56:07,860 --> 04:56:12,780
Hiding under the blanket, TRPA made me do it.

3254
04:56:13,160 --> 04:56:15,660
Well, I'm sorry, that's extremely disappointing.

3255
04:56:16,660 --> 04:56:20,040
Thank you, Commissioner Clark, for standing up.

3256
04:56:22,560 --> 04:56:25,460
Alexander Siktenis, followed by Doug Farty.

3257
04:56:31,060 --> 04:56:35,380
I'm sad to hear some of the remarks on the DS on the Tahoe Plan amendments, except for

3258
04:56:35,380 --> 04:56:36,100
from the far end.

3259
04:56:36,700 --> 04:56:41,780
What I heard is that this vote was almost about expedience, not about doing what's right,

3260
04:56:41,920 --> 04:56:42,960
and that's really sad.

3261
04:56:43,420 --> 04:56:47,500
In addition to being retired military officer, I spend a good two decades in corporate

3262
04:56:47,500 --> 04:56:52,700
communications at two global 50 companies, have written more testimony to the U.S. Congress

3263
04:56:52,700 --> 04:56:57,980
in the EU Parliament that I can recall. What I can share from that experience is, with all

3264
04:56:57,980 --> 04:57:04,320
due respect, Council might edit or comment on policies, but not dictate them. That's

3265
04:57:04,320 --> 04:57:09,060
the sole responsibility of corporate officers and the public officials as the case may

3266
04:57:09,060 --> 04:57:15,840
be. Finally, if this commission is truly concerned about workforce housing, revisit your

3267
04:57:15,840 --> 04:57:20,240
on STR policy and implement restrictions in a cap.

3268
04:57:21,040 --> 04:57:24,200
Let's make our available housing units available to workers,

3269
04:57:24,620 --> 04:57:26,480
instead of ever more tourists.

3270
04:57:26,740 --> 04:57:28,640
Thank you.

3271
04:57:29,080 --> 04:57:31,060
Doug Flerity, followed by Ellie Waller.

3272
04:57:37,910 --> 04:57:38,610
What happened here?

3273
04:57:39,030 --> 04:57:41,970
Doug Flerity, resident, and fine village.

3274
04:57:42,890 --> 04:57:45,370
So what happened here today didn't make me mad?

3275
04:57:47,290 --> 04:57:52,070
I'm not more concerned when I came in, but I am disgusted.

3276
04:57:53,010 --> 04:57:57,610
I grew up on the other side of P.Vine Mountain out here when Stead was an Air Force Base.

3277
04:57:57,870 --> 04:57:59,050
I went to Stead School.

3278
04:57:59,730 --> 04:58:07,350
My stepfather was a turn of the century Nevada Cowboy, Leathermaker Carpenter,

3279
04:58:09,440 --> 04:58:10,000
Horsebreaker,

3280
04:58:10,440 --> 04:58:13,500
he did whatever he could to put food on the table.

3281
04:58:14,600 --> 04:58:21,720
Old Nevada was alive then, you people up here except for Mr. Clark, shame this state.

3282
04:58:23,060 --> 04:58:31,800
Really, the rodeo, the red cross, no, no, I didn't, I didn't state a name, Alexis, don't address the full board.

3283
04:58:32,160 --> 04:58:37,100
I am, I didn't say a clear as name. I just said, please address the full board.

3284
04:58:38,060 --> 04:58:44,820
Alexis, you shut down my right to speech many, many times. What are you scared of?

3285
04:58:45,460 --> 04:58:49,540
You're scared of the truth. You're scared of shining light.

3286
04:58:50,480 --> 04:59:00,120
This is why we have court systems because, obviously, this board is not responsive to its constituents.

3287
04:59:02,820 --> 04:59:08,520
I'll finish my bio, I was part of Reno ski school.

3288
04:59:09,140 --> 04:59:12,760
Stead School would, you know, we come up here and catch a bus and we go up there.

3289
04:59:14,640 --> 04:59:19,800
In the 1960s, when our Olympics, they took us up to Swah Valley to learn to ski.

3290
04:59:20,440 --> 04:59:28,220
My roots go deep here, and for anyone to soil that is disgusting.

3291
04:59:30,890 --> 04:59:32,250
Thank you, Mr. Clark.

3292
04:59:33,190 --> 04:59:36,790
Too bad we haven't got four more, just like you up here.

3293
04:59:38,890 --> 04:59:40,650
Elliott Waller, followed by Ann Nichols.

3294
04:59:44,320 --> 04:59:45,120
Good afternoon again.

3295
04:59:45,280 --> 04:59:50,200
Elliott Waller, Douglas County resident six years, Placer County resident 20 years.

3296
04:59:50,780 --> 04:59:52,040
I go to Placer meetings.

3297
04:59:52,280 --> 04:59:53,280
I go to Douglas meetings.

3298
04:59:53,360 --> 04:59:54,900
I come to you folks.

3299
04:59:54,900 --> 04:59:59,960
T.R.P.A. High Jack, the entire session of...

3300
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:09,100
Legislative Oversight Committee. We begged several times for a citizen's day and were denied by Senator

3301
05:00:09,100 --> 05:00:19,100
Daily. Thank you, Commissioner Clark. We do our best to raise the awareness that the public is not heard.

3302
05:00:19,520 --> 05:00:28,040
We are thanked for coming to meetings. We plead with our commissioners and supervisors at what

3303
05:00:28,040 --> 05:00:35,900
expense of our personal time. We're not elected. We come here because you get elected. And

3304
05:00:36,600 --> 05:00:43,520
we are trying to say you're not doing enough to listen to the people. You acknowledge that you

3305
05:00:43,520 --> 05:00:52,920
want to listen to the people. I think your DA's comment was a little conflicting and confusing.

3306
05:00:54,680 --> 05:01:01,500
you can challenge TRPA. We're going to go to TRPA about this whole thing again. This meeting

3307
05:01:01,500 --> 05:01:07,720
made me feel irrelevant because you made a statement that you have to listen to legal

3308
05:01:07,720 --> 05:01:16,580
counsel's clarification which I don't think is entirely correct. You can say TRPA no. TRPA

3309
05:01:16,580 --> 05:01:25,460
We will say we brought this phase to housing nonsense forward and they didn't listen to us either.

3310
05:01:25,600 --> 05:01:31,580
Our only recourse is to carry that stick called lawsuit.

3311
05:01:33,020 --> 05:01:41,780
Why are we expected to have to challenge everything when you should be helping us challenge these things?

3312
05:01:41,780 --> 05:01:52,420
Again, Commissioner Clarke, thank you for your outright approach to the opposition to this.

3313
05:01:52,520 --> 05:01:57,180
We hope to see a lot more opposition to phase three.

3314
05:01:57,660 --> 05:01:59,840
Yes, there's going to be more nonsense.

3315
05:02:00,140 --> 05:02:01,740
That's going to be dumped into this.

3316
05:02:02,120 --> 05:02:07,640
TRPA put you, and I've said this to Douglas County and to Placer County.

3317
05:02:07,640 --> 05:02:13,440
You in a position to have to challenge, and you should thank you.

3318
05:02:14,980 --> 05:02:16,660
And Nichols, followed by John Epilita?

3319
05:02:21,000 --> 05:02:21,820
Yeah, can you hear me?

3320
05:02:22,640 --> 05:02:24,640
And Nichols, Natal of Preservation Alliance.

3321
05:02:24,780 --> 05:02:25,760
I'm very confused.

3322
05:02:25,760 --> 05:02:28,700
At the beginning of the meeting, up there on the board, it said,

3323
05:02:29,240 --> 05:02:33,340
what you were approving was attainable housing.

3324
05:02:34,740 --> 05:02:37,700
When I asked Kat what you were approving, she said,

3325
05:02:37,700 --> 05:02:41,940
know it's TRPA's down a definition achievable housing.

3326
05:02:42,620 --> 05:02:44,240
Well, that's confusing to us.

3327
05:02:45,280 --> 05:02:49,200
It sounds like it's confusing to you and to your staff planner.

3328
05:02:50,580 --> 05:02:52,620
So I don't know what did you approve.

3329
05:02:57,990 --> 05:02:59,170
It was on the board.

3330
05:03:00,490 --> 05:03:02,250
You know, I watched this stuff.

3331
05:03:03,330 --> 05:03:07,090
And maybe you guys staff needs to be more clear.

3332
05:03:07,190 --> 05:03:09,050
So I asked Kat, I said, what was the deal?

3333
05:03:09,210 --> 05:03:11,170
She goes, oh, no, it's TRPA's definition

3334
05:03:11,170 --> 05:03:16,930
definition of achievable. That's a different. That's no income gap, attainable, which is

3335
05:03:16,930 --> 05:03:23,670
Governor Lombardos, is a 150% of average median income. I think that's a pretty smart definition

3336
05:03:23,670 --> 05:03:30,770
personally, but TRPA of course isn't that smart. Our representative on TRPA Ms. Hill, Mrs. Hill,

3337
05:03:31,230 --> 05:03:38,350
really is our only representation, which she's never done not, she's never gone against any

3338
05:03:38,350 --> 05:03:44,110
this stuff. But anyway, figure it out. You guys before you vote for what is it that you voted for.

3339
05:03:44,810 --> 05:03:49,390
It's really important. This is super important because if it's achievable, there's no income

3340
05:03:49,390 --> 05:03:57,590
cap. So what is it that you did today here? Cat said, it's really achievable up there. It's said,

3341
05:03:57,830 --> 05:04:02,750
attainable. So thanks. John Appelito.

3342
05:04:12,140 --> 05:04:16,240
Hi, John Appelito. Commissioner Clark, thank you very much.

3343
05:04:17,020 --> 05:04:20,240
It was very disappointing to see you guys.

3344
05:04:20,540 --> 05:04:23,420
You don't know what TRPA would do if you said no.

3345
05:04:23,540 --> 05:04:25,080
If you challenge them, you really don't.

3346
05:04:25,300 --> 05:04:27,380
You make it sound like, yeah, well, we care.

3347
05:04:27,760 --> 05:04:30,440
If you cared, you would have been with Commissioner Clark.

3348
05:04:31,140 --> 05:04:32,280
It's just disappointing.

3349
05:04:32,920 --> 05:04:36,060
Alexis, you're supposed to be representing the residents of Incline Village.

3350
05:04:36,440 --> 05:04:38,000
You haven't done that in a long time.

3351
05:04:38,440 --> 05:04:40,420
And I think most people see that now.

3352
05:04:40,580 --> 05:04:42,380
At least people that are watching these meetings.

3353
05:04:43,620 --> 05:04:44,500
Pam, gosh.

3354
05:04:44,680 --> 05:04:45,860
Thank you very much.

3355
05:04:46,500 --> 05:04:52,380
excellent. They said it way better than I could. There's one thing that I can talk about is a real estate broker.

3356
05:04:53,140 --> 05:04:59,600
And that is fire insurance. Right now we have some complex as an incline village, condo complexes.

3357
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:06,080
That are not fully covered with fire insurance. So what's going to happen if we do build a bunch of 65

3358
05:05:06,080 --> 05:05:12,680
story, or any 65 story, new buildings close to them, it's going to make it even more difficult

3359
05:05:12,680 --> 05:05:17,580
for the old properties to get insurance. And right now we don't even have it in some of the

3360
05:05:17,580 --> 05:05:24,220
condo complexes. You guys should stand up to TRPA. We have been trying this for a long, long time.

3361
05:05:24,540 --> 05:05:29,420
You were our last resort and you let us down. You, especially, and you've been letting us down

3362
05:05:29,420 --> 05:05:32,400
for a long time, and I did spend time in Carson City,

3363
05:05:32,740 --> 05:05:35,260
and I saw the blah, blah, blah, and the lies

3364
05:05:35,260 --> 05:05:37,940
that happened with the TRPA.

3365
05:05:38,420 --> 05:05:41,880
Just say, no, they don't pay you.

3366
05:05:41,980 --> 05:05:43,580
They don't control Washow County.

3367
05:05:43,940 --> 05:05:48,100
What you said is BS, you can decide what you want

3368
05:05:48,100 --> 05:05:49,820
and see what TRPA does.

3369
05:05:50,160 --> 05:05:51,860
I don't know how well where he went to law school.

3370
05:05:51,860 --> 05:05:53,680
I know my daughter's in her second year,

3371
05:05:53,720 --> 05:05:54,760
number one in her class.

3372
05:05:55,080 --> 05:05:55,900
I have no idea.

3373
05:05:56,320 --> 05:05:58,080
I only spent one weekend in law school.

3374
05:05:58,080 --> 05:06:05,240
You're not supposed to be representing the RAPA. You're supposed to be representing us and you failed today, except for you.

3375
05:06:05,700 --> 05:06:06,520
Thank you, Mr. Clark.

3376
05:06:08,580 --> 05:06:10,140
We have nobody else signed in.

3377
05:06:10,540 --> 05:06:11,460
Thank you, Madam Clerk.

3378
05:06:12,080 --> 05:06:16,420
Now we will move to item 18, Mr. Slair.

3379
05:06:16,840 --> 05:06:22,100
Item number 18 is Commissioner's County Management's reports of dates to include Board's Occasionate dates.

3380
05:06:22,240 --> 05:06:26,340
I request for information or topics for future agendas, and I have nothing left for you today.

3381
05:06:26,340 --> 05:06:28,260
Okay, thank you, Commissioner Garcia.

3382
05:06:29,280 --> 05:06:31,280
Okay, Commissioner Andrea Dreola, Commissioner Clark.

3383
05:06:31,800 --> 05:06:32,540
Thank you, Madam Chair.

3384
05:06:32,960 --> 05:06:35,440
Very disappointed in what took place here today.

3385
05:06:35,980 --> 05:06:39,320
We're supposed to stand up for the citizens, our constituents.

3386
05:06:40,180 --> 05:06:43,180
Nobody can predict what TRPA is going to do.

3387
05:06:43,380 --> 05:06:47,320
Everybody's saying what they could be doing and what they might be doing.

3388
05:06:47,700 --> 05:06:53,980
And at the end of the day, we need to do what we need to do to support our people and stand up for our people.

3389
05:06:53,980 --> 05:07:01,820
and go to this TRPA and tell them the citizens of this part of TRPA are not interested in doing what they want to do.

3390
05:07:02,000 --> 05:07:08,600
So, come up with an alternative. Don't threaten the county commission and have us shaking in our boots.

3391
05:07:09,160 --> 05:07:14,960
The TRPA may do something. If TRPA does do something and we didn't agree to it,

3392
05:07:15,200 --> 05:07:19,980
then we can blame them if there's a disaster in the future. But now we're collaborators.

3393
05:07:19,980 --> 05:07:24,760
We're in collusion, we're in cohoots with them, and I'm not in cohoots with them.

3394
05:07:25,040 --> 05:07:28,940
So I hope the folks at District 1 understand my position.

3395
05:07:29,280 --> 05:07:32,980
I didn't think that this went the way that it should have gone for the citizens.

3396
05:07:33,560 --> 05:07:35,980
I only wish that everybody got better.

3397
05:07:36,280 --> 05:07:37,000
Thank you.

3398
05:07:41,010 --> 05:07:42,670
It is 309.

3399
05:07:42,790 --> 05:07:44,950
Thank you, everyone, for a great meeting.

3400
05:07:45,270 --> 05:07:45,930
We are adjourned.