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I was within the night. You're on. Okay.

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Let's go ahead and call this. Be the

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cannibation. May be service district number five, the order,

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7 p.m. No, for

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9. Till 7.200, sat at 100 east, chairman of the town, Thursday, August 20th, 2026.

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The story of business, roll call, chairman of the Lone Davis president, Robin. Here, Troy.

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Here. Here. Yeah. Here. John. Here. Okay. This cave is going to be here. No.

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You can be excused.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Commissioner Yardley.

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Here.

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Okay.

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We shall Secretary Kayleigh act in present.

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Attorney Vaughn, Christianson, present.

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Just to manage your might and else present.

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Moving on, we'll go ahead to consent issues.

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Finance reports.

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Approval bill.

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Be careful.

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Approval minutes.

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I'm moving.

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We have approved those minutes.

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I'll second.

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Okay.

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I had to approve that the city should present it.

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Any other discussion?

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Not all of the favor?

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Aye.

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Okay, a new business ratification is the award

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of President Russell Ways Collection Contract

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to elevate recycling and disposal services of Utah.

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Draffler, the contract, should have gone up to you

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in your packet.

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If you can get a chance to review it

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and you'll know it to the front of you as well.

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The one I emailed to you guys did have some of the commercial stuff which you have taken

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Yeah, that's been where it was.

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That's been where it was.

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And so the copies you guys had in front of you will be the ones I gave you.

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No franchise agreement.

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They just promised to pick up the residential waste.

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And we say, yeah, you're the ones to do.

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Well, the ball is in their court, so we'll see how they do.

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I haven't had a chance to read it, but this is a question.

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Is this saying that we're in front of it?

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He'll keep the cams in good condition and keep the lifts replaced.

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That was in the RFP packet, and I think it's still in the contract.

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There was one question that I had, and we talked to them guys that night.

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They were still willing to go forward with the, you know, remember we did this out in the middle of all this we had a fire

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Then we were at the contract and then we had a flood

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And we lost accounts due to those and so I

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Was curious as as if we needed something in that

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contract

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But laid that out that

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Because it what it's not what they bid on is isn't what we have now

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How big of a chip do you say no one knows if it's well Kaylee Kaylee got a

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July's billing at $5,000 less for one month on our on our end over the rest of

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I got you we figured it was probably close to 200 accounts right I mean I'm

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thinking 300 there were 235 structures lost on the mountain but we lose all of the

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But like my place is just a power meter and I get bailed on that, we lost all of those.

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Yes.

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We didn't know that.

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Due to the power.

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Agreed.

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Even though nothing burnt down, we lost all the access and everything else, we lost all

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that.

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Is the contractor asking for an adjustment?

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No.

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He was aware of that during the, the, the, the night that we, the, we haven't been asking

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that.

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We didn't ask him that.

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But he was I didn't know if something needed to be in the contract that

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Well, I'm hate to hate to go ahead and adjust it all right, okay

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I guess part of that is he he doesn't have a cost when he doesn't pick him up

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Right, so

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Now his total income changes, but his expense is expense also changes

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And I guess he probably wants to know how long that's going to be.

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There should be a balance.

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You know what?

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We talked to him.

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We basically express that.

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We don't know how long this is going to be.

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These are going to be gone.

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Some of these cannons may never come back.

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But as soon as the power starts to come back on,

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we'll start regaining it.

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camels, like my place, the power will come back on, I just got aometer, I'll start paying

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a 15 on the garbage being, yeah.

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And anyone who has a cam or a service left will start paying a garbage being installed.

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Yeah.

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And come back.

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But as soon as the package continues, there's going to be a bump.

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So I just didn't know if there needed to be a long track, a baseline.

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Reflecting a problem.

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And I didn't know how to do it.

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So Mr. Chairman, are we looking for an option at this time to go ahead and board the contract,

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So I've got a few more questions to make sure I cover on my list because I've got a list

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right here.

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Oh.

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The fuel surcharge, there was nothing in the contract for a fuel surcharge.

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No.

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To me, that's okay.

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For us, that's good.

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I just worry that he'll be back in two years asking for an adjustment on fuel surcharge or on the contract adjustment.

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There's no, we get a color, we give a color raise to our employees, but they have the right to come in and use whatever means necessary, but we don't have to give it.

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And I didn't know if we wanted to state that in the contract and say we don't even want you to ask for X amount of years on a fuel, on either a contract adjustment.

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The fuel search, I don't know that we want it, but it isn't.

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We know it on the residential.

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I just worry that if we don't specifically state that we shouldn't have it,

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we're not going to give it, then we are susceptible for them to come and ask for that.

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But we didn't have it in our RFP.

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Yeah, two years.

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Just months.

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Okay, why did that not make it?

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They are locked in for years, right?

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What was that? They're locked in for two years. Yeah. That's what our RFP is.

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Well, if it's in the RFP, we probably out on the air then. I should say that in the contract.

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Yeah, that was just nice. Not that I'm... Let's get it in.

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Picking on here. Let's get it in. Oh, pick on. You're on a chance.

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Yeah.

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So

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in the other question I have was on the 410.

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So that video just says contract to do used to provide the district with three roll-offs

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4 times annually for the district to use the annual Milford might I drill and the Beaver

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spring.

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Clean up the project.

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Similarly, similarly, contractor agrees to provide the district with three roll-offs, one

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time annually and beaver, milk, or admiral for the Christmas season.

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I just think it's important to state that they're going to do that free of charge.

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What are these guys are new to this community?

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I mean, I understand.

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Yes.

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Was that fair, Robin?

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Because right now it's just as they will provide it, it doesn't say with or without

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Spelled out so we've got anything out in front just so there's no question. Yeah, no question. Yeah, sure because the Christmas thing is really important

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It is I agree and being part of a small community that's something they can do and I think they're happy to do it

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I don't get me wrong. No, no, I understand what you're saying

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And then the RFP packet, I guess, we missed stating that in black and white.

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I mean, I guess we all just assumed that that was free, but then being new, they may not

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have understood that.

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Okay.

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I think that's a simple fix.

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I'm writing down right now.

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This should be provided to no additional charge.

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And that will, by the contract, that will take care of that.

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Then the other one I had, and Kaylee took care of that question for me, so that was everything.

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I read those things multiple times, and every time I read them, I found something different

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than I had it quickly.

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It's just stopped on that.

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I guess the fuel surcharge, that's a question for the board of what do we need to do

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the contract, or we just need to wait a bit, where they can ask for an increase for two

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years.

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They can't, and I would just strongly recommend that instead of a fuel surcharge we give

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them with a rate increase.

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Fuel surcharge is a massive amount.

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I've talked to multiple agencies around, and there's a lot of garbage contractors, a lot

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of people driving trucks that are doing that, or residential waste, they're not doing it

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For the sheer fact that it's a pain in the butt for the billing entities to adjust that rate every single

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I mean we'd have to call milk from city minor to the Rocky Mountain power everybody to reflect that each month

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Of what that fuel surcharge would be and I I hate them prices

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Actually, and then to get into the question of just milk or pay more of a fuel surcharge

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The beaver does because they're not going as far and then it gets really

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I think we probably should put in the contract on you, so if I'm wrong, fuel surcharges will

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not be considered or something to that or maybe if fuel goes, I mean, 5 bucks to say

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5 bucks now, but if it goes to 10, how do we mitigate that?

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But at that cost, I would be sympathetic to those guys to come and ask, but a rating

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for a raise would be better than the fuel searchers.

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But we can't do that for two years, so I guess anything's subject to change, right?

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We can adjust.

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The fuel went to $10 a gallon in the middle of next year.

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I don't think there's anybody.

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I mean it says in the contract they can't come into it but I don't know if anybody would say hell we're not gonna give you a raise

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I mean if there lives money I mean anyone would be hard-pressed to keep

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Can you give it a soul that they they retain the right to come here and eat with us

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But they really can't for two years

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RFP right

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We have the legal right to just say no, but yeah, I mean they've been given notice that that's one of the terms of the contract

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We got that in the contract.

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We got that faith that the state of the heart

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move for whatever it is is going to get all people's

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going to go to three bucks, right?

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Oh, boy, if I know this left homeless,

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you'd be up today.

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Do you hear it?

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He's got it again.

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And I guess I don't know.

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It sounds like I'm arguing to protect the contractor here.

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No, no, no, no.

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No, no, no.

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And we need to stick with the proposal.

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Why he intentionally did it, a couple of dollars tired.

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And maybe that was a self-preservation

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I'm saying, could have been a million dollars a year.

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So I'm like you, I like that.

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You know, we just stay with us for two years.

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How does that read?

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Well, right now, I think we're talking about 19.4 payment

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account, right?

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Is that where you're at?

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I'm Dr. Schoer, receive $7,000.

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If I could first stamp you $95 for the second.

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So I would add additional English.

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It says, no price increase.

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including fuel search areas shall be allowed for the first two years. But I would

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mirror the language we used in RFP so it's consistent. Okay, so it was in the RFP

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but it's not in the contract. It needs to be. It needs to be. Okay, we got to put it in.

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That's I didn't see it in the contract so. Yeah, that was a good catch thank you

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commissioner. Yeah, we got to have it in there.

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Well, one was that 191. I see prices

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This is discussed at 19.4.

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No.

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We're all on a thing now.

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And before else.

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Before else.

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Is it a plan?

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I just see 19.4.

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I didn't.

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We have to add that.

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The two years.

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That's increased for two years.

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Right.

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19.4.

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But it goes back to it.

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But what you was saying, you know,

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if we had that in there for three years,

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and say next year,

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it goes up to $10.

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It says they can't come,

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But we as a board, we can be sympathetic to say we better call them minutes if we can.

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But, January, I mean, why do you, why do you bid too much for me if we're going to do that?

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Like, here's what the RFP says.

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So it's price adjustments.

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The district may consider price adjustments to reflect changes in the contractor's operational

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costs after a two-year period.

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Any requested adjustments shall be based upon the consumer price index for all urban consumers

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and or the US Energy Information Administration on highway diesel fuel price index.

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The contractor may fully justify requested increases by substantiating actual increase in the cost of the business using inflationary

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data such as wholesale price index, producer price index, consumer price index, diesel fuel price index.

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The districts shall make the final determination.

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Regarding any contract by the Senate. Second.

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That's what I'm expecting.

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The Senate has for whatever they want based off the criteria that we've laid out after two years, and we can say no, or we can negotiate with them whatever whatever ways of war feel like negotiating. Right. But within that first two, say things go crazy. And it does go south and it goes to 10, 12,000. And they come in after year.

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and say, we've got to do some, or we're just going to have to hold this job and close

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the door.

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And that would be where I would, I guess, want to have some leeway, right?

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That's where I'd want to be able to have some sort of conversations.

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So either lose our provider, or we make a price adjustment.

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And I don't even know that.

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I understand what you're saying because they did it as a price and everybody was on the

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same ballfield when they bid die, but I don't know that anybody expects $10 fuel, but

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what any of us be surprised to expect them out here now, we did that, we lose all

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those accounts.

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Where's that going?

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There's where things going on, and that would be the only time I would think we should

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do something as if they're in jeopardy of closing doors, and we do that provider.

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But you have to have some kind of a clause that you might contract now?

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I don't think so. I don't. I wouldn't think of legal skill we can ask him.

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Sir, I just look at it that one more time.

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If we do want to give a price adjustment in those two years, voluntarily, I guess, as a board.

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Instead of losing them as a provider of somebody picking a garbage, we don't need to have that in the contract.

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Because it wasn't in the market.

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I don't want to have an avenue to rectify the situation if it arises to where so like

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said we don't lose what we have after start all over again.

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District may consider price adjustments to reflect changes in the contractors operational costs after it to a year period, and then it gives instructions about how it is to be given.

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You know, you just could check someplace else about a man. Well, I often put a man. I don't see as a new lady. I see a man.

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I may have amended it here because I don't want to.

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I can add a provision or a section that says, shall maybe amended upon the mutual agreement

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of both parties. I just don't want to invite. We don't want to invite it, but like so.

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In an emergency, yeah, we can do it in emergency. Does that have to be in there? What is an emergency?

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I mean, I'm not part of the day time. I'm not going to put it in there. I'm just okay. That's

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what we have to do. Yeah. And say we just go with it and go there and then if we don't

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happen, then we'll go from there. That's their emergency. Yeah. But if something like that

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That does happen. Why is he going to say, well, that's the reason I've been at $2 higher

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and now I need the contract and now he's willing to bend for these days. That kind

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of, it would have to be drastic for us to get sick and agree, agree, agree. And I don't

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want to do it. I don't want it. So we're all used to drastic now anyway. They're good guys

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that they want to bend. Right. That's the new normal. I don't want a person I can see here

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It isn't involved with the whole system so they got to be with the contract because I won't go there

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But I've been cut so many times over this contract that it's nice, but that don't matter

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So so we better really this time I really want to get it to where we stick to it. Yeah, I think we can't I think we'll find out

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You want to entertain a motion to do the contract with the

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Yes, sir. I'll second that. Okay, motion by Robin. Second by Commissioner. Started to go ahead and set the contract with elevate recycling just both services to start at what date you want on that.

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Let's states it will start on the 20th of March, so we'll contract in September 31st and this will start on October 1st.

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Okay.

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Make that part of the motion then.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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Any other discussion?

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Not all in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Most carry.

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Okay, discussion of flood debris resolving from the flooding.

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Consider whether that flood debris in no charge or just establish a supposed of fee.

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You still got a lot coming into it, yeah.

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Hi, I printed out a paper for you guys to show you.

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That's what's on the back.

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It's this one right here.

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It says, Beaver County Council wants you to summary.

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I have written on it as a yesterday's date.

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There's been 10,000 in here in the 11th time that come in.

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I'm part as a normal 500 baby.

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Take the whistle.

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Kelly, I'm going to get it.

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It's on.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Look through all of your stuff.

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It's there.

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It's there.

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It's okay.

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I do have a question up because they asked me about this.

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The total loads.

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It shows 30 times.

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This should be like 200.

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Oh, no.

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There's a couple of thousand of them.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's just, is that days?

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Yes, that's days.

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We're in 60 to 70 loads a day.

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Yeah, that's a day.

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Yeah, that's total loads is, that's total days.

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That's surprising, total days.

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Because what the guys are you on over in Newburgh,

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is they're just keep a track of the loads that are coming down,

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coming in and at the end of the day,

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right you're right and down. There's so many of them coming in that we're not keeping track of

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we're not able to weigh in. We're averaging out the the tiges and I'm very

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conservatively estimating the tanges on a lot of those loads. We've got just a

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small and a medium and large load is what we're doing. We're right down. We're

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getting between 40 to 65, 70 notes a day. Yeah, there's plenty of two or three U.D. trucks

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around and with the other guys. On various days you don't get on this all the

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days but yard leases got three or four trucks running. We've got several

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people from the grow running traders pick up traders with big dump

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traders and then some new dollars. Okay. For their records we may have to

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break that number down a little bit more to help them understand what we're

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So right now we've got FEMA and emergency management that are trying to determine who's

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going to pay that bill.

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So we, Mike was great to just say bring us the debris because we had no options.

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It was, the landfill takes it, we find some obscure pit, like the county has a pit out on

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pass roads we could take it there. That's not the right place for it. And it would weigh length

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in the loads going out there, the time to get the debris out there. So Michael's great to just

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say bring it out here, we'll figure it out. The one load that they were springing from North

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Creek was a 50 minute turnaround just from North Creek to the landfill. So going somewhere else would

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be significantly longer. It really would have caused us problems. So we appreciate might just say

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bring it in here, we'll figure it out. I kept after every meeting I was in I would say

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the landfill is impacted here. They didn't understand because they said well the landfill as a

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county entity that's an in-kind service. I said no it's a special service district. If we build a

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county it's an impact to the to one of them right. The counties are going to have to pay the bill

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or the special service district doesn't take the income. So I finally have them understanding what

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or what we're dealing with.

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It's just that when you,

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the other county commissioners are doing...

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No, but I have a FEMA.

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Oh, okay.

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FEMA, FEMA, and emergency management.

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State guys are helping us.

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When they saw how much material we have,

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that you guys have taken out there,

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it did panic them a little bit,

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but I was okay with that.

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I wanted them to understand what we've dealt with,

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and now we found it's valuable to take people out.

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I was out there yesterday with some people to look at the piles and say this is what we called out of the river so far

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Since the 20th and this is what we don't put into a landfill, but yeah, we've got a mitigate

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It has to have to it has to go somewhere. Yeah

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Most of that has to go to the end of the landfill due to the dirt the dirtiness of the

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Agree the material there's waste in it. I mean human waste. There's

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There's asbestos. There's there's there's there's everything. Everything in that

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way. So most of that what we want to try and do and just as I was up in the

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maybe the site. No, we're going to try and separate the wood material, the

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weak and burn and then bury the rock and the dirt material. Well, it was covered

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back to what the commissioner said, you know, trying to get everybody to

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understand, especially on the theme of sight, because I've been setting in these

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meetings for the hazmat mitigation, the five year plan that we got to put in place so

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that the county, then the cities, qualified for FEMA. I brought up, why don't we have

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the landfill here? Why don't we have the hospital here? Well, they looked at me, why do you need

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your land, but what does that have to do with it? So last meeting, I made my point. I said,

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here, what is taking place? We never realized. Give that any thought.

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Well, it happens that when we're up, you are open, because load after loads are going

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around.

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I've got a guy that has a lot of stuff sometimes from me and around, he's never quit.

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He's going, I don't know, I don't want to be involved, but he's down, but it's in

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language.

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There's something.

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Well, you know, it's really a service.

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Load after load after.

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Load after.

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Load after.

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Load after.

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Load after.

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Load after.

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Load after.

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Load after.

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County, I mean the Forest Service, anything else, what else would we do with that stuff?

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Yeah, anything that happens in this county, it affects this landfill.

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It's just like any bad emergency affects your hospital.

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And we've got, we need to take it, like Mike says, separate it out, burn what we can

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and you'll have to bury the rest and push stuff on it.

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But without this revenue, my court asking you guys to operate, to handle are really the

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Forest Service garbage for no cost if they're not going to pay that bill.

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And that's the point I've been having on those guys, but this isn't a resident waste.

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This is national forest service waste that's now caused the problem.

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We've got to have some help, and that's a big impact on our budget here in this meeting.

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I think they're accepting what was the response like element of minor?

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No, they've been okay, but they haven't written me one check, so I'm not going to jump

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and I'll do the cartwheel.

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So because this is the same thing that George argumented over there in Iron County had with

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their floods.

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All that stuff came out of the forest.

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Yeah, and he said well four service ought to be involved in this and four service. So no, thank you. No, thank you

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And they've been two years almost two and a half years before they take it back and dump it on their property then no

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Making dump it better before we do it. Yeah, it's it's really headache right now. It is

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We appreciate you working with this. I really feel will be paid. I

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Don't know if we'll get the full amount before going to get some and I

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Well, here's the thing, at the end of the day, I was talking to Kaylee about this earlier.

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We've got an account that's got some money in it that's really equipment.

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We've got to fund there.

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And I've always said that some day something is going to come along and it may be water quality

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wells or we may have to lie on landfill or we may have to do something, but I mean, maybe

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now's a time to draw on some of that money because it benefits us all to not have to raise

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everybody's rates, which we can talk about that in a little while anyway. But, you know,

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and if you used to put a dollar value on that and say, okay, where's that going to come from?

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And if the state or theme or doesn't pay for that, then who is going to pay for it? And I guess

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if we need to rely on some of our own funds for that, I mean, maybe that's why we've got it.

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How long can we survive? I mean, we're still all right right now, right? We're fine, yeah.

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Yeah, please do survive and give us a little time to see what famous is going to be yeah, we'll

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If we I wouldn't dip into those funds yet Mike. I think I think I don't think we need to know that and I think by the end of the year

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We'll know a little more. Yeah

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I'll just stating that there are options. There are options. Okay for revenue. I mean our revenue our our our revenues

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Actually up a little bit this year, but

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And we'll discuss this in a few minutes, but

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I think we'll be fine. I mean even if we have to rent an excavator or borrow one from the county somehow some way

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and I think that that even can be put off for a year, maybe until next year.

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Okay, I'll give you an answer.

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I'd rather get everything into the landfill and then start dealing with it with a piece of equipment rather than do a little bit now and a little bit later.

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But I don't want to do that.

443
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I think you need an excavator with the thumb.

444
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Yeah, boy.

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And the state has been really good to supply the equipment for the flood. I just have to ask for another estimator for it out there, and they won't be a problem. You just tell me when you're ready. I think let's give it another month of cleaning up before we start.

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At least a lot for the next storm.

447
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Yeah, that might be the night.

448
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I mean, if we get the excavator,

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I don't know if it's free of charge,

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and we can get an excavator, maybe,

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bring it in a couple of weeks,

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and it might start on it.

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I might make that request on Monday,

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so it's worth still the top of it,

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and I'm just, and we can get it.

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So, and if it doesn't run every day,

457
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it's not a big deal, okay?

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In my mind, I'm thinking rental costs

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and having it there and being able to just utilize it,

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all that's there because you pay for it.

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So every day, whether you use it or not,

462
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so in my mind, I'm thinking if we're gonna rent something

463
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or it's gonna cost, there's gonna be a cost there.

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Let's get it there and use it and then get rid of it.

465
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,960
All right, put somebody on there.

466
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,300
But if there's no cost to it, we can have it

467
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:07,840
for a few months then, yeah, let's get it.

468
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,580
You might as well have a question for you.

469
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:11,840
I mean, you yourself, the operators,

470
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:13,200
and all this stuff coming in.

471
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,480
I mean, I've got to be causing somebody some stress.

472
00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:19,040
I mean, how's all that getting covered by just the people?

473
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,600
Yeah, my hair is not great.

474
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,060
I know.

475
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,720
I know, but what?

476
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,620
That's the answer I'd like to know.

477
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,400
At first, I was as far as stress, or,

478
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,560
oh, you know, who's standing on all the punches I think

479
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,940
or it's all going to that same spot.

480
00:31:32,260 --> 00:31:33,800
Well, I, you know, I'm,

481
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:38,060
first of all, while I was like, we can't do this,

482
00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:40,040
but then it's like, who else is?

483
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,320
That's what we're here for.

484
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,040
It took me a few days to accept the facts and say, you know what, let's just duck our

485
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,220
heads and make this work.

486
00:31:49,180 --> 00:31:53,540
I mean, they've done a good job handling it, they just pile over and he's got it in

487
00:31:53,540 --> 00:31:54,020
a good spot.

488
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:55,620
Push it up a couple of times a day.

489
00:31:55,620 --> 00:32:00,820
The people who work there and stuff, I mean, it's all okay, I mean everybody, no, we've got

490
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:07,420
that, you know, having another guy, we didn't quite have the money for it and we needed that

491
00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:08,640
other guy I'm glad we got him.

492
00:32:09,820 --> 00:32:15,860
But yeah, we got a new loader two weeks ago, we got 50 out of it already.

493
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,460
It's not going to go away.

494
00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:19,300
I don't think so.

495
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:21,680
No, I can't because I believe in what you want.

496
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,760
But if they don't need you, that's what they say it's going to do.

497
00:32:24,340 --> 00:32:26,140
We're going to deal with this for a few years.

498
00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:26,740
Yes.

499
00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:31,660
But we need to get everything in shape or something somewhere.

500
00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:35,640
We'll just keep dealing with it the best way we can.

501
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,200
and I'll make a decision and if it's wrong

502
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,120
and I'll take the whooping stuff.

503
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Okay, I'm going to separate it out,

504
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:42,820
Jack, and you're about to come and get the big stuff.

505
00:32:43,220 --> 00:32:44,280
Oh yeah, we can burn it.

506
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,500
And put it in the pile, wait for a wind blowing north

507
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,140
and a lighter on fire.

508
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,120
Okay, I feel like it burned it.

509
00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:52,520
I don't know.

510
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,100
We've had chipping things and I found out the guy

511
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:56,480
that come and chipped us out here.

512
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:57,580
And I like it.

513
00:32:57,620 --> 00:32:57,760
Yeah.

514
00:32:58,700 --> 00:32:59,360
Invite me out.

515
00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:00,240
I want to be there.

516
00:33:00,260 --> 00:33:00,680
We'll burn it.

517
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,360
We'll reduce it to ash and we'll be all right.

518
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:04,120
Okay.

519
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:10,440
No, I'm fine with that. I was just concerned about who's, you know, the extra work that's

520
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,080
involved there.

521
00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:14,880
Got to be a lot. Well, of course a lot of people's done a lot of work. Everybody to help

522
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:21,460
back. That's that. We're still a business here. So, and I like what you said because people

523
00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:28,940
really don't think trash, how did we get affected by it? Yeah. And we have a good justification

524
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:35,140
This was not a boost. This is the Forest Service stuff that came on to us. I think we're going to be fine.

525
00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:41,800
I just need a couple more weeks to pound that nail home and get them to write the checks.

526
00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:45,000
So I want to get some checks out of them before I get too many problems.

527
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,260
Yeah.

528
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,740
And one more point.

529
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,880
I think that people that are hollowing it out there, whether it's the art or the user they get.

530
00:33:51,260 --> 00:33:53,840
I think they're doing a great job because I don't see a lot of stuff.

531
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,940
I don't see a lot of trash on the road.

532
00:33:56,340 --> 00:34:00,700
I mean, I think they've had a great job doing that there with that cause a lot of problems, too.

533
00:34:01,340 --> 00:34:03,640
So, thank you. We appreciate that. I'll pass that over.

534
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,900
Yeah, they've done a great job.

535
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,500
Even with the telegates down, I'm not covered. I still think it's our life.

536
00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:15,160
Somebody, I think the new business here's the discussion is, do we continue taking this at

537
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,800
no charge?

538
00:34:16,660 --> 00:34:20,000
Is there going to be a line that we say now we've got to start charging?

539
00:34:20,980 --> 00:34:26,180
And at well point because I've had a couple of commercial guys that have went up there and started

540
00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:30,800
term homes apartment like we was any impression you guys were taking us all for free and I'm like

541
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,220
what are you getting paid and and so there's some discussion right here and there's some discrepancy.

542
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,720
How do you how do you let this guy have his whole yard get cleaned up brought in for free and this guy

543
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:49,180
pulls some sighting out his house with a disaster company and we charging so I need some clarity on that.

544
00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:51,960
that I think that if we're getting paid for, we should charge back.

545
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,320
But I also know that maybe some of the other stuff's getting paid for too, so who do you

546
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,500
get paid for?

547
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,820
Who's going to know what that is, or what?

548
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,320
It's hard for me to pick and understand that.

549
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,240
So do we just keep accepting it for free and put it down to slow matured right now, what

550
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:10,980
do I do?

551
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,980
I would ask you to keep taking a degree out of the yards.

552
00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:21,280
I agree with you if somebody's doing some work on their house from the floods

553
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,560
But that contractor's getting paid by the insurance by the homeowner. We've got to charge them for that

554
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:34,980
Okay, but how we know it's gonna be mine's call. Well, we ask people and that's gonna be part of this other discussion

555
00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:38,300
is we've got people say well this is my own stuff, you know

556
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:41,480
It comes back to that $15 charge

557
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:49,440
amount is how much of that $15 charge is going to see found in a system how much

558
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,860
should it cover? And it should just I mean by the time you you pay a

559
00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:59,580
contractor this new elevate and then we take our cut and then you take all this

560
00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:03,720
other ways that's personal ways or supposed to be free it there's there's no

561
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:10,440
money left. There's no revenue left to it now to for the out of that $15. And Jack

562
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,180
to your question. We've got the normal contractors that are hauling in right now.

563
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:21,880
If Mike sees a new one, he'll know that they're not hired onto the county. So I guess that's how you

564
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:28,920
would know to charge those guys. So right now it's just Skyler Yardley hauling. Yeah, Tonshire hasn't

565
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:34,900
hauled any. They've been loading, but I know they did. They did for the first little while. Okay,

566
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:43,680
But they donated, they first donated, there was two or three side dumps that I think was

567
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,060
donated.

568
00:36:44,420 --> 00:36:44,560
Yep.

569
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,760
There was a significant amount of donation right at the beginning.

570
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,200
Yes.

571
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,220
Oh, there was a Saturday that all the orgs got together and my two or a certain area and

572
00:36:52,220 --> 00:36:52,940
I don't know.

573
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,140
You probably got one part of that.

574
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:55,360
Yeah.

575
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,820
We got probably three or four hundred loads of stuff in one day.

576
00:36:58,220 --> 00:36:58,340
Yep.

577
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:03,560
And there was just everybody donated, you know, we still got people donating their time.

578
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,300
They're taking their truck and trader up there and somebody's loading them up there and they're

579
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,480
And they're just running this to the lab field so we're keeping track of that also. There's a big pile still right there

580
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,840
But Bob Davidson's there's big pile of local. Oh, there's a lot

581
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,480
so

582
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:26,500
If we can keep doing it like you have been that would just kind of keep doing what we're doing

583
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:30,280
Yeah, okay, that was my question. Okay, okay,

584
00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:36,450
he was been waiting patiently

585
00:37:42,430 --> 00:37:48,310
I know it's a bit, you have a straw in the market, you can actually have it in the

586
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:48,530
place.

587
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:52,530
Let's see if this thing will start.

588
00:37:54,270 --> 00:37:54,990
It's over.

589
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:56,090
It's gone.

590
00:37:59,950 --> 00:38:00,750
Five minutes.

591
00:38:00,750 --> 00:38:01,950
It's about the two minutes.

592
00:38:03,250 --> 00:38:03,950
There we go.

593
00:38:04,370 --> 00:38:05,050
Now we got it.

594
00:38:05,330 --> 00:38:08,150
So if you hold up your fancy certificate, you'll see this thing.

595
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:09,710
this training comes to two parts.

596
00:38:09,970 --> 00:38:12,670
We have, first of all, we require open public meetings.

597
00:38:13,070 --> 00:38:15,510
And then also, we're gonna have professionalism

598
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:16,110
and public service.

599
00:38:16,110 --> 00:38:17,910
It'll be familiar to you.

600
00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:25,330
Who must have made the Open Public Meetings Act?

601
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:28,030
We have to.

602
00:38:28,650 --> 00:38:30,990
What are we that makes this required to follow?

603
00:38:31,170 --> 00:38:32,550
This is a service, this is a street public service.

604
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:32,670
Good.

605
00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:33,910
And what is that?

606
00:38:35,210 --> 00:38:37,190
It's a public body, I don't know the law.

607
00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:39,270
We refer to public bodies, right?

608
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:41,270
So the commission's a public body.

609
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:42,370
We're a public body planning.

610
00:38:42,370 --> 00:38:45,430
all the other service districts are public bodies.

611
00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:49,830
What's a public body? Well, we're created by law.

612
00:38:50,510 --> 00:38:54,930
We've got two or more people. We use tax dollars and we make decisions about the public's business.

613
00:38:55,810 --> 00:38:56,630
That's a public body.

614
00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:01,280
All right. Public notice of meetings.

615
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,120
It's got to be written. How far in advance?

616
00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:08,060
24 hours at least. That's somebody complaining to me

617
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,660
just to stay in my office. You guys just get away with the minimum that the law

618
00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:17,180
requires. 24 hours a row. There's a reason for that, right? Sometimes we don't

619
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:20,860
know for sure what time the agenda's on the last minute. Sometimes stuff comes

620
00:39:20,860 --> 00:39:29,300
up last minute. Sometimes 24 hours before feels like not enough, or it just, it's

621
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:33,100
what the law says so it's what we go. What does the notice include?

622
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:42,520
You're

623
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,320
You can do the paper, you can do the post office, you can do the city office, the county office.

624
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,800
So what's required by law?

625
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,900
So you can do a state-wide, let's do a state-wide, I don't know.

626
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:50,860
Replay a state-wide, I don't know.

627
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,960
Yeah, there we go.

628
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:58,740
So what's required by law is the principal place of business right here.

629
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,020
And then the Utah Public Notice website.

630
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,420
In addition, Beaver County also requires tritz ordinance

631
00:40:04,420 --> 00:40:07,080
and it'll be posted somewhere in place in Beaver.

632
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,560
No further advice.

633
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,620
It's in public location.

634
00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:12,140
Where do you post-starts?

635
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,080
The post office and then the public rose upside.

636
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,260
Three post offices.

637
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:19,180
Yes, so I'll post office here.

638
00:40:19,420 --> 00:40:20,760
And then the public rose upside.

639
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:21,960
That is absolutely perfect.

640
00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:26,100
I do it on Monday, the day of the week goes.

641
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,340
The yearly notice.

642
00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:29,320
Thank you.

643
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:29,940
That's perfect.

644
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:31,020
All right, yearly notice.

645
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,940
In addition to the 24 hours in advance,

646
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,080
I also have to give the public notice

647
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,880
of what our yearly schedule is going to be.

648
00:40:41,460 --> 00:40:48,600
and we do that once each year. All right, emergency meetings every once in a while despite

649
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,960
the sunshine laws that require us to hold our discussions and the open stuff comes along

650
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,280
where we have to close the meetings and here's some of the reasons why. The shout out to Matt,

651
00:40:57,460 --> 00:41:04,040
what are some reasons that we have hold the close meeting? Good. There's one public go when you

652
00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:14,080
It's probably the biggest one, that's the biggest one, yes, so cyber security,

653
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:18,400
oh yeah I'm

654
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,560
ahead of myself, sorry. When we're holding an emergency notice and we held one of those not so long ago,

655
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:29,680
did we commission? We give the best practicable notice of the time place and topics to be considered.

656
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,920
In other words, the law says, look, if it's an emergency, you do the best you can. You've got to

657
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,400
to notify all the board members and the majority of the board members have to approve of

658
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,200
having the emergency.

659
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:41,160
All right.

660
00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:41,500
Here we go.

661
00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:42,140
Close sessions.

662
00:41:42,140 --> 00:41:43,580
We already talked about some of the reasons.

663
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,360
Personnel, that's the most common, threatening litigation.

664
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:48,740
That's another common one.

665
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,540
Real property negotiation.

666
00:41:50,740 --> 00:41:51,980
That's another common one.

667
00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:54,020
We don't see this one a whole lot.

668
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:57,920
Deployment of security personnel, but that's a reason to close the meeting.

669
00:41:58,740 --> 00:42:00,720
Collecting bargaining, we don't see that a whole lot.

670
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,720
the government and then other specified issues.

671
00:42:05,580 --> 00:42:09,080
All right, records of public meetings. What do we got to have?

672
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,360
Kaley keeps an audio recording, right?

673
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,780
What else does Kaley keep?

674
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:15,560
Minutes.

675
00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:16,660
Minutes for sure.

676
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:19,240
And then what record do we keep of closed meetings?

677
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,200
Do we keep audio recordings of all closed meetings?

678
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:25,260
No.

679
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,820
No, what are the exceptions?

680
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:30,890
Of course, no.

681
00:42:31,230 --> 00:42:31,710
Personnel?

682
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:32,470
There's one.

683
00:42:33,370 --> 00:42:36,610
And then deployment of security personnel, that's the other way.

684
00:42:36,730 --> 00:42:39,330
For one of those two reasons, we don't have to make a recording of it.

685
00:42:39,770 --> 00:42:43,130
Instead, Katie will have the chair signed a little affidavit, just a testing.

686
00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:45,850
Here's the reason we went into closed session of this group.

687
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:52,990
Does anybody have to say the closed session cannot talk to anybody about what took place in that closed session, unless they were flooded?

688
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:56,890
That's right. That's right. It's actually a criminal offense.

689
00:42:57,370 --> 00:42:57,550
Yes.

690
00:42:57,550 --> 00:43:03,730
No, I haven't prosecuted anybody for that yet, but you're right, it's against the law, I've got to keep it quiet.

691
00:43:04,910 --> 00:43:11,530
Alright, so there you go, that was the open public meeting training. Let's jump now into professionalism and public service.

692
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,940
Alright, duties of the public board.

693
00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:21,920
Everybody must be the princess bride.

694
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,620
You're right, report on it.

695
00:43:25,780 --> 00:43:27,820
Alright, here we go, you'll see the tie-in in a minute.

696
00:43:27,820 --> 00:43:31,440
Let's just kind of do this classroom style, right?

697
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,980
Mayor, you want to start with?

698
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:38,400
Public officials must ensure access to public reports and studies on an equal basis.

699
00:43:38,980 --> 00:43:42,920
Public officials must ensure that reports and records of public body are open

700
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,140
equally to all members of public.

701
00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:47,880
Everybody gets access to the public records.

702
00:43:48,540 --> 00:43:50,800
So let's pose a hypothetical here.

703
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:56,420
So the bird squad comes in, they submit a grammar request to the board secretary, and

704
00:43:56,420 --> 00:43:59,180
they are demanding a copy of a recent close meeting.

705
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:04,360
They insist that disclosures necessary to provide proof of inside dealing by the board.

706
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:07,380
They threaten to go to the media if the meeting contents are not surrendered.

707
00:44:08,140 --> 00:44:11,000
Do we have to turn over the recording of the closed section?

708
00:44:11,420 --> 00:44:11,600
No.

709
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,060
No.

710
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:12,920
That's right.

711
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,620
That's one of the things we don't turn over unless there's a court order or telling us

712
00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:18,820
to.

713
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:25,220
Number two, Commissioner,

714
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,580
for all a diligent service.

715
00:44:30,860 --> 00:44:33,460
The official must render for all a diligent service.

716
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,840
Should the official believe he or she can no longer render

717
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,240
such service in a thorough and diligent manner,

718
00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:43,060
he or she should resign from the position.

719
00:44:43,780 --> 00:44:47,060
If the official has not sufficiently been the other facts

720
00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:49,800
and advice affecting a public decision,

721
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,760
the official must not participate in that decision.

722
00:44:54,380 --> 00:44:58,300
All right, Robin, you want to give us our hypothetical board member, Indigo?

723
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,480
Yes?

724
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:16,060
There's always late to the meetings and never comes prepared. You're in my side and during the meetings, and I always vote the same way as a friend Fritz, who is also on the board. He likes being on the board, though, because it's really great because it was quite easy.

725
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:29,060
What's in the goal of being a high say that guy's name? Yeah, yeah close know and name is Indigo Montoya. You killed my father, but he was responsible for that.

726
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,680
Behind time. Participate. Yeah. Or you should reason come prepared, right?

727
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:47,340
We have a cross-section of the community. Everybody is supposed to contribute their own ideas to this, not just copycat in the videos.

728
00:45:48,740 --> 00:45:49,600
Troy, you're up.

729
00:45:49,600 --> 00:46:00,720
In short, full disclosure of public hearings, the public official must ensure that the presentation of information on behalf of any party to a public question that occurs only at the scheduled public hearing on the question.

730
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:13,300
Not in private, unofficially or with other interested parties absent. The official must make partisan information regarding questions received in the mail or by telephone or other communication part of the record.

731
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:15,640
And does this ever happen there, Davis?

732
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:16,960
Every day.

733
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,260
Every day or at the post office.

734
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:21,600
Yeah.

735
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,320
Yeah.

736
00:46:22,580 --> 00:46:22,660
Okay.

737
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,120
So here's a hypothetical jack.

738
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:28,640
Are you presenting a CUP application?

739
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:29,900
The applicant?

740
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:31,960
What's that word?

741
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,600
The Zina.

742
00:46:32,780 --> 00:46:34,960
The Zina Carnage Ball at the Chevron.

743
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:37,380
And gets him a very long sales pitch.

744
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,280
I should have found out.

745
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:38,600
Should they?

746
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:38,960
Should they?

747
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,380
The application.

748
00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:43,920
to ensure the whole discontent disappears here.

749
00:46:44,340 --> 00:46:47,300
Disclosure, watch it, and he goes there.

750
00:46:47,540 --> 00:46:49,100
Yes, it's not Bob, it's in the go.

751
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,060
You should go somewhere else to buy his Coke.

752
00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:55,680
Yeah, no, look, there's an easy answer, and there's a shot.

753
00:46:55,740 --> 00:46:58,440
There's just a closure that you've had that coma solution

754
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,620
and disqualify yourself from that conversation.

755
00:47:01,220 --> 00:47:01,440
And go.

756
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:07,340
I know, Mayor Davidson, past trainings, you've said,

757
00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:10,020
when people approach you, you just invite them to the public meeting.

758
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:15,220
Yeah, come come in here all about it, right? I think I've heard somebody else do the same thing

759
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:20,100
Yeah, just come over here. Yeah, come to the meeting and find out

760
00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:22,500
Respecting for that

761
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,260
All right, let's see John are we at you now? That's me

762
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:32,600
Board member must not seek favors from applicants. He or she must not directly or indirectly

763
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:38,940
Solicit any gift or accept or receive any gift whether in money service bones traveled

764
00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:45,280
entertainment, hospitality, promises, or in some other form under circumstances in which

765
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:51,280
it would be, reasonably inferred that the gift was intended or could reasonably be expected

766
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:58,300
to influence him in the performance of his duties, or was intended as a reward for any

767
00:47:58,300 --> 00:48:02,480
recommendation or decision on their part.

768
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,100
Okay, Mayor, you read this report?

769
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,300
The Cup Applicant, whatever we're calling V,

770
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,540
next approach board member Wesley mentioned

771
00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:14,960
that he just got a hold of box seats at the next jazz game.

772
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,440
That's what Jack wants.

773
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,460
And the envelope to Wesley with the wink

774
00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:21,360
and says, I really hope you enjoy them.

775
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,440
Wesley knows the C-char expensive,

776
00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:25,140
probably worth several hundred dollars,

777
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:25,940
what should he do?

778
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,200
Don't take it.

779
00:48:29,420 --> 00:48:31,200
And don't say, get more tickets for the rest.

780
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,320
It's like you don't have to hurry up and wait until the end of the day to get it.

781
00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:38,020
This is the real one.

782
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,660
It is going, I want to go.

783
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:41,960
A lot of changes.

784
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:46,020
You used to say you can't accept a bribe of more than 50 dollars.

785
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,000
Yeah, you can take a bribe of 50 dollars.

786
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,020
But you can't be bribe above 50 dollars.

787
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,960
That's change now.

788
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,040
All right.

789
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,200
I think that's there.

790
00:49:02,420 --> 00:49:03,560
Let me see if Mike can.

791
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,980
Okay, I'll read it.

792
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:06,800
I'll do it.

793
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,740
Avoid a conflict of interest.

794
00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:16,080
Avoid a conflict of interest or even the appearance in propriety.

795
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:23,620
In propriety, a board member who may receive some private benefits from a public decision must not participate in decision making.

796
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,280
The public benefit may be direct or indirect.

797
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:36,780
Create immaterial, personal gain, or provide advantage to relations, friends, groups, or associations that hold the significant share of the officer's loyalty.

798
00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:41,660
And official with a conflict of interest must make that interest public.

799
00:49:42,140 --> 00:49:51,620
Staying from voting on the matter, not participate in any deliberations on the matter and leave the chamber in which such deliberations are taking place.

800
00:49:51,620 --> 00:49:56,680
The official must not discuss the matter privately with any other official voting on the matter.

801
00:49:57,220 --> 00:49:59,860
So what this is talking about is a good better best.

802
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,000
So good is to obey the state law.

803
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,120
Utah law says, hey, if you have a conflict of interest, you've got to declare.

804
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,800
So if you do that, you're obeying the law.

805
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,220
Better is to follow the Beaver County policies and procedures now, specifically dealing with

806
00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:20,320
conflicts of interest, which says in addition to disclosing the conflict, you also abstain

807
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,560
to refrain from any conversation related to it and you refrain from voting. So that's better.

808
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:32,800
Best to follow your attorney's advice and just leave the room. Just don't even participate

809
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,240
in the conversation. And I hope that makes sense because if you stay there and they're talking about

810
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:43,220
something that relates to you have an interest in them and if they're getting it wrong, what are you

811
00:50:43,220 --> 00:50:50,220
going to do? You're going to jump in and correct them. And now you're contributing to their decision.

812
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:58,780
right. So now we're on this last meeting. We just we just did this. Okay. Black

813
00:50:58,780 --> 00:51:04,520
nerds were bidding on the contract. So he had to play abstained and then he left the room.

814
00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:09,740
There we go. Okay, but I've said in I like leaving the room because I've said in

815
00:51:09,740 --> 00:51:14,200
meetings where they've declared a conflict of interest, but the conversation went on.

816
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,180
Yeah, so you've seen it. I see, you know what we're talking about here. So it's best to

817
00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:23,280
see.

818
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:31,020
What about if it's your banker, so where's that ticket? No, or this thing that we took place.

819
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,640
I will, excuse me, but I did tell him one thing. I'll give you information if you'll give

820
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:43,500
me 4% interest on my life. So I got out of the thing and I was happy because that was

821
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:45,960
This is smart and it wasn't a super friendly conversation.

822
00:51:47,540 --> 00:51:49,760
Mike, let's say I need to have a magnified.

823
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,960
The board is reviewing the CNP application.

824
00:51:53,260 --> 00:51:53,980
And it goes brother.

825
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,420
Ruben is the owner of the company submitting the application.

826
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:00,240
What is Indigos doing?

827
00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:01,960
Leave the room.

828
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:03,800
Declare out.

829
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:04,340
Leave the room.

830
00:52:08,730 --> 00:52:09,390
All right.

831
00:52:10,810 --> 00:52:11,410
Commissioner?

832
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:13,810
Sir, the public interest.

833
00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:18,810
The primary obligation of a public board member is to serve the public interest.

834
00:52:19,450 --> 00:52:25,190
A board member has a fiduciary duty to act in the best interest of the public.

835
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:31,990
Not his or her own best interest or the best interest of any private person.

836
00:52:33,350 --> 00:52:35,470
I'll read the hypothetical on this one.

837
00:52:35,530 --> 00:52:38,810
The office supply salesman is on the board.

838
00:52:38,810 --> 00:52:45,010
may Humberdeak sell off the supplies to the service district. There's an easy answer, and there's a very complicated answer.

839
00:52:45,830 --> 00:52:54,130
The easy answer is, no, just don't do it, right? Because if he's going to be on the board, he should know that he really shouldn't be presenting the appearance of every variety

840
00:52:54,130 --> 00:53:01,530
or do anything that's going to bring distrust or disfavor upon the board by making a look like they're favoring him and his wife.

841
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:08,270
So the easy answer is no. Now, if you want the technical legal answer, I suppose he could declare the conflict.

842
00:53:08,270 --> 00:53:11,690
But the interest of skiing from voting leaves the room,

843
00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:15,050
but even then, right, it becomes the problem.

844
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,280
OK.

845
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:30,400
Maintain public confidence.

846
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,160
The public fish must conduct himself or herself

847
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,960
public facilities to maintain public confidence

848
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,120
in the public body.

849
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,140
The fish is unit of government, and the fish of performance

850
00:53:40,140 --> 00:53:41,020
are public trust.

851
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,080
OK, Jack, do you want to read or hide the fabric?

852
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,220
Explicit recording is published on social media

853
00:53:48,220 --> 00:53:51,020
is showing, comforting, making inappropriate

854
00:53:51,020 --> 00:53:53,500
advances toward you, Bradley.

855
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:56,780
The board chair investigates and confirms

856
00:53:56,780 --> 00:53:58,520
that the recording's are real.

857
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,260
Do you help maintain public confidence in the board

858
00:54:02,260 --> 00:54:03,660
of what should comforting did?

859
00:54:05,780 --> 00:54:07,140
I'd say, not talk it off.

860
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,740
There's so a public apology for saying, just resign.

861
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,160
So the summary is, think before you act,

862
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,860
use common sense to the public servant

863
00:54:14,860 --> 00:54:16,120
if you have a duty to act diligent.

864
00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:18,280
You could thank the members about public service.

865
00:54:22,420 --> 00:54:28,920
right. Congratulations, training complete for 2026. There's your certificates.

866
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:06,820
Yeah, that's fine. I do mind on that. I'll take whatever you've done. It's automatically ordered in the state.

867
00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:11,800
Hold that. Hold it. I got one right here.

868
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:16,380
Yeah,

869
00:55:18,910 --> 00:55:20,590
that's a lot of talking for me.

870
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,600
Okay, we're going to old business, discussing the proposed increase to commercial

871
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,380
There's a sewed waist reach, possible board action.

872
00:55:44,940 --> 00:55:48,600
That's the paper down here, I'll color it in.

873
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,780
Okay, I think it's up on my graph.

874
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:59,400
This top part of this is because what we're currently

875
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,740
charging for MSW and CND.

876
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,620
And then I picked on Washington County,

877
00:56:07,620 --> 00:56:16,960
county, to their county and motor county, in relation to the landfill fees that come around us.

878
00:56:20,890 --> 00:56:31,010
We have got to come up with the current franchise fee, because it's going away.

879
00:56:31,650 --> 00:56:33,650
What's in SW Stanford?

880
00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:37,110
Municipal Solid Waste. That's just our household waste, okay.

881
00:56:37,110 --> 00:56:41,270
and the C&D is construction and demolition cut and

882
00:56:43,420 --> 00:56:44,700
so there's a lot of places

883
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:50,160
that are that are keeping the price the same on C&D and MSW is going into the same

884
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:55,880
hole a lot of places now there used to be a quite a big discrepancy between the

885
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:06,350
two and you'll see a lot of these are are charging the same Melored County is

886
00:57:06,350 --> 00:57:17,590
around $32 to $48 a ton on their stuff. They do it by a TBR charge at their landfill.

887
00:57:19,390 --> 00:57:25,030
And so if you go down, what we've got to come up with the difference is that the very

888
00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:31,670
very bottom of the page down here, no revenue, shortfall. And this isn't including fuel maintenance

889
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:36,250
way there's anything that's going to just normally go up at the end of the year in a new budget

890
00:57:36,250 --> 00:57:46,190
year. That loss of revenue from the from the mountain is going to be somewhere between 40 and

891
00:57:46,190 --> 00:57:53,550
60 thousand dollars and then the loss of the revenue from the franchise fee which is $84,000 that

892
00:57:53,550 --> 00:57:59,430
using suns was paying us for the franchise, paying us the district for the year.

893
00:58:00,790 --> 00:58:07,590
So right there in the center I had Kaylee pull up a schedule based off current, well actually

894
00:58:07,590 --> 00:58:15,610
on current but actually last year's tonnages of our MSW on our CMD and the total tons

895
00:58:15,610 --> 00:58:23,330
and she's just got a graph across there and I threw in some $22, $25 and $29 is tonn

896
00:58:23,330 --> 00:58:25,330
Revenue fees and

897
00:58:28,270 --> 00:58:36,030
This isn't including an anticipated which see like this year we budgeted $20,000 for the Milford landfill

898
00:58:37,170 --> 00:58:39,770
Thinking that we was going to be getting some of this

899
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:41,410
Revenue office

900
00:58:42,090 --> 00:58:47,670
All that's going on out here. We haven't been getting any of them. Well, it's a very low very very low

901
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:51,150
And so we're we're $10,000 short on our

902
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:55,710
on our revenues for C&D, the Milford Landfill,

903
00:58:55,710 --> 00:58:57,830
so there's a little bit of a budget shortfall there.

904
00:58:59,150 --> 00:59:04,930
But if we can increase our tonnages into the landfill,

905
00:59:04,930 --> 00:59:07,630
that will also increase revenue into the landfill.

906
00:59:08,270 --> 00:59:09,970
So I didn't take any of that into account.

907
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:11,170
I didn't take any of that.

908
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:13,230
I was a percentage of what I think we're gonna get.

909
00:59:14,690 --> 00:59:18,130
And then also from the self haulers,

910
00:59:18,130 --> 00:59:22,550
There's the trailers and the big loads that are coming in that I think should be charged.

911
00:59:23,130 --> 00:59:25,170
I'm not taking any of that into account either.

912
00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:30,590
This is just basically our two largest revenue generators, which is MSW and CNB, between

913
00:59:30,590 --> 00:59:31,390
the two handfills.

914
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,020
And so we've

915
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:50,290
got to come up with what we want to look at to charge for our fees.

916
00:59:50,570 --> 00:59:56,270
And I think those losses, right, this, the franchise fee replacement is going to be impacted

917
00:59:56,270 --> 00:59:59,750
by the tipping fee of anybody that wants to dump.

918
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,360
Here, now, right, are we going to have a tipping fee on top of, because this is just for, is this just residents, because they bring it out, or is that for anybody? This is for anything commercial. This is, like I said, the two largest hollars right now are, are the contractors, Tusher, Rollins, and Hughes and such. Basically, the commercial end of things.

919
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,860
I think that there's going to be a percentage of what are overall tonnages.

920
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:46,660
This isn't our overall tonnage because there's almost 4,000 tons of MSW that comes in that's

921
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:48,760
not charged, that's personal waste.

922
01:00:50,140 --> 01:00:55,420
So there's going to be a portion of that that we probably should start charging.

923
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:04,020
We've got to, in my opinion, we've got to quit bumping the residential race up to fixed

924
01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:04,800
budget shortfalls.

925
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:12,420
We've got to quit hanging it all on just the commercial into Mike's food town or what

926
01:01:12,420 --> 01:01:13,620
the haulers are picking up.

927
01:01:15,590 --> 01:01:20,220
There's 4,000 tons of waste coming in the landfill, but we're not getting, we're including

928
01:01:20,220 --> 01:01:25,540
including in that $15 fee, because it's personal weight, it's free.

929
01:01:26,740 --> 01:01:28,660
And so how

930
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:37,640
far does that $15 a month fee get to go, because that's half of that is

931
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,400
elevating or using the suns picking up the garbage, $7 a month.

932
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,720
The other half of it is coming to us for operation, to make operational and take care of it.

933
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:58,120
And so to take another, there's nothing left to take another 4,000 tons of waste for free.

934
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,420
It's like, how do you pay for that?

935
01:02:03,460 --> 01:02:07,320
And I think that the people that are bringing it in so we should be charging

936
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,240
and not spread that out over to somebody that's not even coming to the landfill.

937
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,140
I mean, we've got some of these people that are bringing in.

938
01:02:22,420 --> 01:02:29,560
Traylor loads. Traylor loads. I mean, we're talking big Traylor loads. And so...

939
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,940
Traylor loads of treelings that are saying they're saying it's their residential, which

940
01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:39,360
it might be but. People have learned that all they have to do is say, well this is personal

941
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,780
or I'm doing it for free. I have no way of knowing that.

942
01:02:45,770 --> 01:02:48,150
So how do you go about making the change?

943
01:02:49,610 --> 01:02:54,810
I think we're just going to have to just say anything, a lot of the landfills and speaking

944
01:02:54,810 --> 01:02:59,890
with landfills managers, I mean, no county driving a pickup load, it doesn't matter

945
01:02:59,890 --> 01:03:05,790
if you have two bags in the back of your truck or you have your whole pickup load, it's $47.

946
01:03:07,610 --> 01:03:11,750
And I don't think we need to be that extreme, but I think most of the landfills have said

947
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:16,690
if you come in with a pickup load of household trash, you clean out your garage, you clean

948
01:03:16,690 --> 01:03:24,090
down here. And you couldn't get it all in the dumpster or the curbside can. You come

949
01:03:24,090 --> 01:03:30,470
in here and I think that should be included in $15. I think that the tear and your roof

950
01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:37,730
off and remodel on your garage and build a shed out back the terrors. I think that that

951
01:03:37,730 --> 01:03:43,810
extra waste needs to be paid for. I don't think it's better for me to continue to raise

952
01:03:44,290 --> 01:03:51,170
all of our rates for the people who should be paying for it. We bring it in. And I

953
01:03:51,170 --> 01:03:56,010
worry about it going out in other places, and I've just decided that we can't

954
01:03:56,010 --> 01:03:59,010
worry about going out in other places. We have to worry about what's coming into

955
01:03:59,010 --> 01:04:05,590
here and cover what we need to cover here, our fuel, our wages, our insurance,

956
01:04:05,590 --> 01:04:14,910
land fill fees, state fees, back to your comment about the $15 and you can't get

957
01:04:14,910 --> 01:04:18,830
everything in your two containers, one container, and you start bringing that

958
01:04:18,830 --> 01:04:23,930
in your pickup, it should be covered by the $15. Well, would you just soon say,

959
01:04:24,070 --> 01:04:28,130
hey, if you can't get it all in two cans, maybe you better have three cans in

960
01:04:28,130 --> 01:04:31,730
mind for something like that. But maybe that will, maybe that will,

961
01:04:31,730 --> 01:04:39,800
Well, instead of I, as people to bring it out more, I don't know, that's for you guys

962
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:40,240
to decide.

963
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:40,980
I think that

964
01:04:43,260 --> 01:04:46,760
they trouble without turns for the bigger the ass.

965
01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:55,640
You know, half a year or most of the time you only have one, but two or three times a year

966
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,640
you could use two and maybe even three, once or twice.

967
01:05:00,820 --> 01:05:05,060
But a day with the wife to the landfill to bring four bags or a half a pick up load to

968
01:05:05,060 --> 01:05:08,780
put in the dumpsters, I don't think that should, personally, I don't think that should

969
01:05:08,780 --> 01:05:13,300
be charged. I think that should be included in them. I know if we do charge that, it's

970
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:18,180
going to end up in the dumpsters on the way to the landfill. We know that. We know that.

971
01:05:18,580 --> 01:05:22,740
There's going to be 10% of them that make it to the landfill. Yeah, so I don't think we

972
01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:28,560
can charge for those loads just for that simple reason. I agree. I think that that should

973
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:33,900
It could be included in the, you know, some of the moves, or in the shape of the circle.

974
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:39,760
Somebody that moves and they clean up all their stuff in their house and they move and bring

975
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:46,780
out a couple of couches and they maybe it is on a chip, household trash, you know, but rolls

976
01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:52,740
a carpet and sheet rock and, and this stuff with, I think, we've just got to start charging.

977
01:05:52,900 --> 01:05:57,100
We've just got to duck our head and I know we're going to get some fallout from it.

978
01:05:57,100 --> 01:06:01,140
I know we're going to get some pushback from it, but we're just going to have to just

979
01:06:01,620 --> 01:06:02,020
do it.

980
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:07,940
Otherwise, we raise that $15 fee, or we raise the cutting fee to the commercial again.

981
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,780
We put that burden on everyone, and I don't think that's fair.

982
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:19,760
So if I'm reading this right, I don't be explaining this, we're charging $14 right now for C&D, right?

983
01:06:19,860 --> 01:06:20,280
C&D.

984
01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:20,820
Okay.

985
01:06:21,540 --> 01:06:23,320
And if we bump it to 25,

986
01:06:25,930 --> 01:06:32,450
we're going to get an increase of around 88,8000 and if I put

987
01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:41,130
a figure to it, the franchise free fee was 84,000 so that 88,000 is barely going to

988
01:06:41,130 --> 01:06:42,270
cover the franchise fee.

989
01:06:52,720 --> 01:07:00,080
That's not including any of that, this is just the big ticket, this is where multi-eurovy

990
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,640
is going to be.

991
01:07:00,740 --> 01:07:02,740
Who is going to pick up all this other trash?

992
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:04,880
Whoever.

993
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,860
Who will you have?

994
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:09,600
Not being personal, but.

995
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:11,320
I don't know yet.

996
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:17,860
Be honest, I guess why at least reached out to the timber line just see if they're going to sign he has reached out to me

997
01:07:18,940 --> 01:07:23,520
No boy Todd asked me when to come here tonight. I don't know for sure, but I'll

998
01:07:24,180 --> 01:07:29,620
Read up so I don't think that that's and I hear what you're saying

999
01:07:29,620 --> 01:07:33,180
But I don't think that's our business. I mean that's commercial now and we're kind of out of that

1000
01:07:33,180 --> 01:07:38,400
So I think that's just open. No, but I guess the answer is he can get anybody. They can get anyone he wants to

1001
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:44,840
That's okay whoever's willing to earn that business and do it for whatever they'll do it for

1002
01:07:45,660 --> 01:07:51,360
So Mike my my tearing you're right if you think the 25 bucks that are gonna cover it the way it looks

1003
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,040
Just because that's only eight thousand of the

1004
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:02,480
Fancy yeah, it's all they have for what we need is there some other way if we raise it to 25 bucks

1005
01:08:03,260 --> 01:08:05,620
Well, do you see it's getting any place out?

1006
01:08:06,180 --> 01:08:13,140
Well, you've also got to realize that if we can start getting a few roll-offs a day of this other ways,

1007
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:18,320
that will increase our tonnages and greatly increase our revenue.

1008
01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:24,780
Now, back to the dumpster thing. Troy said he's got three dumpsters out.

1009
01:08:26,220 --> 01:08:30,220
This suppose XYZ contracts with him to haul that out.

1010
01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:37,060
When that comes out across the scale, we'll get a charge if we do the 25 bucks, that's

1011
01:08:37,060 --> 01:08:39,340
going to be 25 bucks a ton to get across the scale.

1012
01:08:42,220 --> 01:08:50,000
Before today, if XYZ dumps that dumps your razor across the scales, we don't charge them.

1013
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:51,020
No, we charge them.

1014
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,220
I thought that was what the franchise did.

1015
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:58,400
No, but there's still a commercial tip, HB, on the commercial end of things.

1016
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:04,580
All right, what we did was we give how much is that? How much do we charge $17 a ton?

1017
01:09:04,660 --> 01:09:05,960
Okay, all right

1018
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:11,080
$17 a ton plus plus the franchise plus the franchise fee. So

1019
01:09:11,980 --> 01:09:20,540
In theory the franchise fees already choice already paying for sure that franchise fee correct or any person who has a commercial

1020
01:09:20,540 --> 01:09:31,460
can is already paying part of that pay $4,000. He's already paying that to widely. And

1021
01:09:31,460 --> 01:09:38,920
then widely gives it to us. We're just going to take it from widely or a contractor now in

1022
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:43,880
the form of a tipping fee instead of a franchise fee. We took the tipping fee before, but there

1023
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,880
was the franchise fee added onto that. It's a little bit confusing and I'm probably not

1024
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,960
I don't think 25 bucks is going to cut it.

1025
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,680
But I do think there's going to be some new revenue that we're not seeing now.

1026
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,680
With some of the business that I agree,

1027
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,620
the other way to cover that shortfall is do we

1028
01:10:14,620 --> 01:10:22,560
charge in the tonnage plus a tippage fee for the commercial garbage, but that is your

1029
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:27,020
tonnage is your tippage fee. Or I must understand.

1030
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,520
No, no, that's, I

1031
01:10:32,020 --> 01:10:36,620
get like if I, if I are all in here with a dump trailer behind my pickup

1032
01:10:37,260 --> 01:10:46,980
and I'm tearing a house down, if I just pay the $25, but if a contractor rolls in, I guess

1033
01:10:46,980 --> 01:10:55,280
If a contractor comes in with a roll-off, you could charge even the $25 plus $100 to

1034
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:55,540
double.

1035
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,080
Well, it'd be $25 a ton.

1036
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,780
Well, either we'd have the scales.

1037
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:07,120
Down here we would have to say, you've got a half-trader or this a man, you've probably

1038
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:07,760
got three times.

1039
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:09,340
We're going to charge you 75 bucks.

1040
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,040
We'd have to charge him that plus the $100.

1041
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:14,520
You can't do that all.

1042
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:15,760
Well, we can do it.

1043
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:23,100
We can, some of these plays, because I don't know that we, we don't want to go to the

1044
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:28,660
highest scale of the garbage, the 25 is enough for me, like that's all.

1045
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:35,960
I was starting, I don't know, shortfall there to be, but the thing is, I've got two thought

1046
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,920
processes on this, as one is we could charge 25 and start out, but if it isn't enough,

1047
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:45,000
then we're going to take another raise in here, and we're going to, is that going to irritate

1048
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,580
people more than one take raise now there's a and not another

1049
01:11:49,580 --> 01:11:54,300
year because I think that 29 would definitely cover it but you've got to

1050
01:11:54,300 --> 01:12:00,060
remember fuels still five bucks a gallon well if the other thing we got to

1051
01:12:00,060 --> 01:12:04,800
remember two if we go beyond the 25 you got to remember what's going to take

1052
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:10,500
place in the county and especially in the beaver with the revenue they're

1053
01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:15,820
going to lose, because they're going to lose water, their water age are going to have to

1054
01:12:15,820 --> 01:12:20,400
go up, a lot of things are going to have to go up. Taxes are going to have to go up

1055
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:27,340
at county and city to cover everything that's taken place, and so we have this large amount

1056
01:12:27,340 --> 01:12:28,320
on top of it.

1057
01:12:28,580 --> 01:12:32,360
Man, it's going to be pretty tough on a lot of people, so now our days are going on.

1058
01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:38,120
Yes, and we want to be very cautious on ground, but I don't want to go any higher, 25.

1059
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,560
I'll try that and see where we go from there.

1060
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,600
I started at 25, but that's not going to cover it.

1061
01:12:44,620 --> 01:12:46,000
The math doesn't work at all.

1062
01:12:46,740 --> 01:12:51,440
I'm going to work 25 and this will work for a while.

1063
01:12:52,400 --> 01:13:00,140
I'm hoping that an increase in construction material from down here.

1064
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,600
If we could just get a couple of rolls a day or even five a week.

1065
01:13:05,940 --> 01:13:08,240
start to make it up pretty different that area.

1066
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,520
A averaging 500 roll off, 5 times 25.

1067
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,580
And what are we getting, maybe $4 to roll off now?

1068
01:13:17,540 --> 01:13:19,640
We get $125 to roll off.

1069
01:13:19,940 --> 01:13:20,140
And

1070
01:13:23,180 --> 01:13:28,120
increase, that would fill in.

1071
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:37,100
So are you thinking that we need to take this home and digest it for a month?

1072
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,380
And then come back with the first of the year?

1073
01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:46,900
We need to go by October 1st because the franchise goes away, that last quarter of the franchise

1074
01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:48,760
goes away, so we're just going to start.

1075
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,980
So we've got to make a decision for our public decision and I'm meeting in September

1076
01:13:53,980 --> 01:13:54,680
what we're doing.

1077
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,500
If we're going to have a meeting in September or if not, we probably ought to do something

1078
01:13:58,500 --> 01:13:58,780
tonight.

1079
01:13:59,020 --> 01:14:01,600
But that's, I think we can see more of the overtime.

1080
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,680
We're just here at that time.

1081
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,480
I mean, I think you said move something far away.

1082
01:14:06,980 --> 01:14:08,100
We still retain the right.

1083
01:14:08,500 --> 01:14:10,540
If there's not light time, you can change it.

1084
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,000
You good at 25, yet?

1085
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,620
Yeah, I do, but we got to move forward,

1086
01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:16,540
but don't work, we can still change it.

1087
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,900
Times are really changing, there's some I don't understand.

1088
01:14:20,540 --> 01:14:21,860
Do we got to have a public hearing

1089
01:14:21,860 --> 01:14:23,760
of justify what we're raising the rates?

1090
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:24,300
Right.

1091
01:14:25,540 --> 01:14:26,900
Not on commercial side, do we?

1092
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:27,940
Not on commercial side.

1093
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:28,680
Just on residential.

1094
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:29,620
Residential.

1095
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,200
We're not the grade for it yet.

1096
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,520
So we got to get to get to it tonight.

1097
01:14:33,700 --> 01:14:34,680
We're going to use it in here, right?

1098
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,600
I'm not going to raise the residential.

1099
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:52,900
Well, we've also got a lot to talk about this, the residential is going with a 58 cents difference, so we're going to eat that, and we're going to raise it, and we've had to bring it away from that.

1100
01:14:53,020 --> 01:14:59,980
This is part of the reason why it hasn't been to raise the residential, so we've had one being raised.

1101
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:14,840
And we're trying to fill budget shortfalls by people who aren't something easy. And these people

1102
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,280
that never shut the lab, though, the rates just keep going up, and they're going, what's

1103
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:22,340
going on? And we've just, we've got to build a people who bring it in here.

1104
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:25,260
We've got

1105
01:15:25,260 --> 01:15:33,120
That's about $25.58 times, how many accounts do you cite, Kayleigh?

1106
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,260
Well, a figure that's about $3,000.

1107
01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:38,980
$3,000 accounts times $5,000.

1108
01:15:39,420 --> 01:15:41,380
That's $1,700 general law.

1109
01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:42,360
Talk about it is good.

1110
01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:45,500
How about clock it if we don't take a raise?

1111
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,300
So there's another on the residential side.

1112
01:15:57,060 --> 01:16:06,700
So the new contract is going up 58 cents, so we're going to lose 58 cents out of that

1113
01:16:06,700 --> 01:16:07,240
$15.

1114
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,880
That $1,740 if I'm right on my mark,

1115
01:16:14,900 --> 01:16:18,460
that is that much more out of our pocket.

1116
01:16:18,460 --> 01:16:30,640
Okay, I thought it was 78 cents what I thought it was 78 cents now from three from 717 to

1117
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:31,640
775

1118
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:32,860
795

1119
01:16:32,860 --> 01:16:35,240
795 I thought it was 775

1120
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:36,240
795

1121
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,220
Pay it's more than that

1122
01:16:38,220 --> 01:16:41,940
So 78 cents

1123
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,360
Yeah, my math thing math

1124
01:16:52,540 --> 01:17:00,620
That's $1,340, but if you raise your resident, have to have the public everything, right?

1125
01:17:00,620 --> 01:17:00,640
No.

1126
01:17:02,340 --> 01:17:06,760
So we just went from $600 to $2340.

1127
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:07,860
So we have to do something.

1128
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,160
So what's your shoulder trim?

1129
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,360
That's $25,000.

1130
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:11,410
That's $20,000.

1131
01:17:12,440 --> 01:17:12,660
That's $20,000.

1132
01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:12,960
That's $20,000.

1133
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:13,740
That's $20,000.

1134
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,360
That's $20,000.

1135
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:21,500
So this is did we got raised on 78 stands on the residential right right now

1136
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:24,580
Well

1137
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,140
That's it you guys and I think we should really talk about that

1138
01:17:30,140 --> 01:17:35,680
But yes, he says so we don't have to have a public hearing to raise the right smell in the ordinance

1139
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:41,680
We just we keep going up and up and up and up and I'm fighting that I'm fighting that that's what we're discussing around is not

1140
01:17:46,460 --> 01:17:49,200
I don't want to do the residence, we just get to the bus.

1141
01:17:50,940 --> 01:17:52,960
We keep going up on the residential.

1142
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:54,140
We did, we went $2.

1143
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:55,620
No, we got squad them.

1144
01:17:57,380 --> 01:17:58,900
Yeah, all that did was cover up a column.

1145
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:08,440
I'd say go up $25 a ton right there in the middle and let's hope and pray that we increase

1146
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:09,100
in revenue.

1147
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,520
I'll keep trying to cut costs wherever I can.

1148
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:12,820
and we'll,

1149
01:18:16,180 --> 01:18:23,300
I think we do the 25 if we need to dip into that fund to cover some costs.

1150
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:29,980
We do that and make sure you get the build of the county and the 17 before the late

1151
01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:32,020
are 15.

1152
01:18:32,260 --> 01:18:35,160
What does 17% of the bill exist?

1153
01:18:36,820 --> 01:18:37,740
Can't be that clear.

1154
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,460
You can't feel it.

1155
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:41,280
Four service.

1156
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:43,680
I know.

1157
01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:45,460
Yeah, let's do that.

1158
01:18:45,660 --> 01:18:47,600
It's going to take 25, but let's see what happens.

1159
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:48,480
They can close the door.

1160
01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:50,080
I didn't see the door.

1161
01:18:52,060 --> 01:18:53,700
This is a great idea!

1162
01:18:54,260 --> 01:18:56,140
Today, we have the whole Christina's really died.

1163
01:18:57,460 --> 01:18:59,460
Under section 11, we have no one.

1164
01:18:59,460 --> 01:19:04,300
of our ordinance. It says the district should be responsible to set peace by

1165
01:19:04,300 --> 01:19:08,180
resolution for all aspects of solid waste management is necessary to pay for

1166
01:19:08,180 --> 01:19:11,860
services. So we can do it. We don't have to have a public hearing but it does

1167
01:19:11,860 --> 01:19:15,800
mean to be in the form of a resolution which we don't have today. So we're going

1168
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:21,120
to have to do this next month. Okay. Good thing you were here. Just give me the

1169
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:26,340
number and I'll prepare the resolution five. I just basically done you know what we

1170
01:19:26,340 --> 01:19:30,320
we do when we raise water raise stuff like we have to have a hearing to fill.

1171
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:32,920
Is that on your commercial?

1172
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,140
Yeah, 17 to 25.

1173
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,040
So you do have to do the commercial?

1174
01:19:37,220 --> 01:19:38,380
We pick up some other commercial.

1175
01:19:38,580 --> 01:19:40,040
Some other revenue along the way.

1176
01:19:40,580 --> 01:19:46,080
Every time I take a price increase I get sick to my stomach because I feel like we should be going

1177
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:46,760
something else.

1178
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:50,800
But, simple fact is, I don't know what you do different.

1179
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:59,280
aspect of our lives is increasing in every single thing that we buy and do and it's I don't

1180
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:06,340
know how to fix it because our costs that we have to run this place is just in every time

1181
01:20:06,340 --> 01:20:09,380
you turn around it so there's just going to continue to go that way.

1182
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:15,320
Well that's tough but if my translation is right is your job so right I sense that when you're

1183
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:20,620
telling me that you're a wonderful guy you still got to make sure that we're in farm that you've got

1184
01:20:20,620 --> 01:20:21,940
and that's coming in, so you're covered.

1185
01:20:22,740 --> 01:20:24,160
So the three is residential.

1186
01:20:24,580 --> 01:20:26,540
I'm not above and beyond that, because it's still,

1187
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:29,160
I residential, you get casted for that,

1188
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,400
but we're still not in good heat with nobody else.

1189
01:20:32,660 --> 01:20:35,100
My people relate to realities in St. George.

1190
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:38,180
It's two and a half minutes more.

1191
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,420
I know, iron county is still building for 10 bucks

1192
01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:41,920
with the folks over there.

1193
01:20:42,460 --> 01:20:43,620
So they're raising for that.

1194
01:20:43,620 --> 01:20:45,040
The stealing of, basically,

1195
01:20:45,380 --> 01:20:46,280
all the volumes.

1196
01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:47,460
Oh, come on.

1197
01:20:47,460 --> 01:20:59,600
That's a lot of landfills, that's a lot of landfills, we have the same cost that the big

1198
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:05,620
landfills do by the same type of compact or fuel, every wages, all these things tend to

1199
01:21:05,620 --> 01:21:11,180
play and yeah, we're not putting as much garbage away but they're just doing it on

1200
01:21:11,180 --> 01:21:16,380
I mean, I am County Lancel's getting 400 and 500 ton a day.

1201
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:17,940
Hey, we're doing it.

1202
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:19,940
We are too.

1203
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:21,040
Thank you.

1204
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:24,280
Let's go.

1205
01:21:24,380 --> 01:21:26,500
The 29 bucks see how she runs.

1206
01:21:27,020 --> 01:21:28,780
We're not collecting the limo and cans.

1207
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:29,780
Let's see how it goes.

1208
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,280
We have to dip into the sacred fund.

1209
01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:31,980
I have to.

1210
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,160
I sold our metal again.

1211
01:21:34,540 --> 01:21:38,660
I pulled the trigger and we got another $5,000 or $10,000 off our metal.

1212
01:21:38,660 --> 01:21:45,720
So I'll just keep doing whatever I can do to save money and maybe we'll find a stack of gold bar.

1213
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:53,280
Okay, so we'll have a resolution next meeting with increase on the conversion sum.

1214
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:55,700
17 to 10 to 25.

1215
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,560
It's very across the board.

1216
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:58,880
That's going to be a nice one.

1217
01:21:58,920 --> 01:21:59,240
Here you go.

1218
01:21:59,460 --> 01:21:59,640
Yeah.

1219
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,980
Can you discuss the scope of the $15 residential

1220
01:22:02,980 --> 01:22:06,240
song away service fee in charges for larger residential

1221
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,240
words, lords, loads?

1222
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:14,620
Can you just give that piece for larger residential loads?

1223
01:22:15,060 --> 01:22:15,200
No.

1224
01:22:16,780 --> 01:22:17,180
Nope.

1225
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:17,860
That's another one.

1226
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:18,600
But I don't.

1227
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:19,600
Well, we did cover this.

1228
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:20,660
Let me talk about it.

1229
01:22:21,700 --> 01:22:22,960
And that's going to be a halftime.

1230
01:22:23,220 --> 01:22:26,180
I think residential loans are going to have to consist

1231
01:22:26,180 --> 01:22:27,720
of residential trackways.

1232
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:35,240
outrather household waste, baggable box for your TV, if it's carpet and drywall,

1233
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,180
if you can drywall it'd be on that.

1234
01:22:40,220 --> 01:22:42,500
Who used to the job that you sat in that, though?

1235
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:50,300
Here, when you're working here, you're sat in the front. It'll just be us, it'll be.

1236
01:22:50,580 --> 01:22:58,880
But I mean we have people that have rental homes and these people like leave their

1237
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:04,280
rentals and the owners come in and they clean out a whole house, but that's commercial and it would be commercial

1238
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:13,540
That's commercial. That should be charged. Or even I there was another individual who he was moving and he brought

1239
01:23:13,540 --> 01:23:19,400
three or four dump truckloads of household garbage that was his residential

1240
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,680
He put it in our dumpster and he put it in the roll-off

1241
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,220
And it cost $150,000, doesn't have that $10,000.

1242
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:26,180
To all of you.

1243
01:23:26,740 --> 01:23:27,800
And he got three.

1244
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:31,480
No, but I know some people have done that in my life.

1245
01:23:31,740 --> 01:23:33,280
But that's the only thing I'm wondering.

1246
01:23:33,620 --> 01:23:36,320
It's going to make every decision.

1247
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:38,420
Well, just have to do something.

1248
01:23:39,420 --> 01:23:42,520
But it's going to be an other system, too.

1249
01:23:42,740 --> 01:23:44,980
I mean, is it commercial?

1250
01:23:45,220 --> 01:23:46,020
Is this from your rental?

1251
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:48,840
Well, they're here the best we can.

1252
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:49,760
The best we can.

1253
01:23:49,980 --> 01:23:51,000
Yeah, they're the best we can.

1254
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,820
I think I've got to build a house on $15 a month.

1255
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,660
He wasn't even charged with $50,

1256
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:57,940
because he didn't have a part of it.

1257
01:23:58,020 --> 01:23:58,680
That was great.

1258
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,640
So, anything else on that?

1259
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,760
We will, we will, we will start into revenue.

1260
01:24:05,940 --> 01:24:10,560
Okay, Resolution 2026-1-A.

1261
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,580
Resolution Granny, Elevate Recycling,

1262
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,020
Full Service in Utah.

1263
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,860
Exclusive right to collect the transport

1264
01:24:17,860 --> 01:24:19,380
residential solid waste.

1265
01:24:19,380 --> 01:24:22,120
and just for your accounting, possible board action.

1266
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,220
So in a nutshell, we've given up the franchise's

1267
01:24:31,220 --> 01:24:32,080
agreement on commercial.

1268
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,940
It just didn't make sense it wasn't working.

1269
01:24:35,940 --> 01:24:38,040
But on the other hand, part of the agreement

1270
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,340
we've made with in this, they're

1271
01:24:39,340 --> 01:24:41,560
going to have the excuse to be able to be the one

1272
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,160
to collect the residential cash, which

1273
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,080
it does make sense.

1274
01:24:44,300 --> 01:24:47,020
It does make sense to have a single collector

1275
01:24:47,020 --> 01:24:49,100
gathering the residential waste.

1276
01:24:49,740 --> 01:24:52,760
And so this just formally declares that they're the ones

1277
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:57,780
who got the job and it's got to be them and I don't think there's going to be any fuss

1278
01:24:57,780 --> 01:25:04,740
or any competition of a residential it's the commercial that's going to be very safe

1279
01:25:04,740 --> 01:25:05,400
so

1280
01:25:09,370 --> 01:25:12,570
what's on business on what do we need to do?

1281
01:25:13,850 --> 01:25:21,390
Make a motion to adopt resolution 26-1 I'll make that motion we adopt the resolution

1282
01:25:21,390 --> 01:25:29,970
second it. Okay, I have motion by Troy, second by Jack to adopt resolution 2026-1. This will be a

1283
01:25:29,970 --> 01:25:36,950
road call vote. Robin. Hi. Troy. Jack. Hi. John. I can make sure you're hardly. Hi.

1284
01:25:37,930 --> 01:25:39,490
I'm going to pass on to ask me.

1285
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:46,100
Mike, do you have anything else for the board?

1286
01:25:46,180 --> 01:25:50,740
You guys have heard enough from me tonight and I'm sweating. I'm feeling this.

1287
01:25:50,740 --> 01:25:51,900
Why is it driving me?

1288
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,380
How about our attorney?

1289
01:25:54,660 --> 01:25:58,360
Do you have anything that you have?

1290
01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:59,680
Anything that I have anything?

1291
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:00,940
No, I don't think so.

1292
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,880
Anybody else on the board have anything?

1293
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,320
I don't have anything I can say is my...

1294
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,620
Young lady, we appreciate what you do for us.

1295
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,120
We have quite a task now because everything changes so fast.

1296
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:16,880
Nothing's like it used to be.

1297
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,700
Katie puts this stuff all together.

1298
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:20,580
We appreciate that.

1299
01:26:21,900 --> 01:26:23,960
We've got a letter for you to give me.

1300
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,360
I made a huge incense sentence.

1301
01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:27,120
No, no, no, I made a choice about the glass of alcohol,

1302
01:26:27,260 --> 01:26:28,940
it's involved with Andrew DeCon.

1303
01:26:29,020 --> 01:26:31,300
Backtrade can not be a difficult work.

1304
01:26:31,420 --> 01:26:32,340
I just signed it.

1305
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:33,100
I just signed it.

1306
01:26:33,540 --> 01:26:34,220
I'm there to the head, man.

1307
01:26:34,620 --> 01:26:36,060
There's a whole lot of mercy.

1308
01:26:36,100 --> 01:26:37,220
Hey, maybe in adjourned.

1309
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:37,940
Thank you, then.

1310
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:38,960
Thank you.

1311
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,340
That price thing, David, you would have had I give.

1312
01:26:42,700 --> 01:26:43,480
I give that a call.

1313
01:26:44,460 --> 01:26:45,620
Maybe you make that.

1314
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,200
I can tell who made it.

1315
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,080
She wasn't going to make it nice.