1 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Mhm. 2 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,920 » Mhm. 3 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,760 » I'd like to call this meeting to order. If you could please stand for the 4 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,760 pledge. 5 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:47,200 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to I 6 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:53,600 pledge allegiance to which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with 7 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,600 liberty and justice for all. 8 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:04,040 » Thank you. It's good to have everyone here, August 18th. 9 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:07,680 Board of Selectmen meeting. Is there any public comment? 10 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,480 Any public comment? Any public comment? Hearing no public 11 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,200 comment. First on the agenda, the Waterford 12 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:17,480 Utility Commission to consider and act on a request from the Director of 13 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:22,919 Utilities, Jill Stevens, for an additional appropriation of $200,000 for 14 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:28,280 a new project, water distribution system emergency capital reserve for fiscal 15 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,400 year '27, identified in the general fund balance. 16 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,240 » So. >> Second. 17 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,760 » Hi Jill, how are you? >> I'm well, and you? 18 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,520 » Good, thank you. Um 19 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:44,080 how about we just how about we just go ahead right into you what this is, 20 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:45,520 um and why why it was set up with the Board of Finance. 21 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,960 » Okay. >> Thank you. 22 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:52,160 » Yeah. Um after the Quinley Way water main break last summer, 23 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:56,600 um and I went through the emergency appropriation process, the Board of 24 00:06:54,200 --> 00:07:01,400 Finance rightfully suggested that we set aside some capital funds for emergency 25 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:06,240 water repairs that are tripped through the threshold in the interlocal water 26 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:09,560 agreement. This isn't for anything other than 27 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:14,440 uh a break like the Quinley Way Quinley main um sorry, Quinley Way main break. 28 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:20,320 It's not for maintenance or anything that Veolia or New London would usually 29 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:24,960 um cover for us during the uh the term of the interlocal agreement. 30 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:30,040 It's simply to fix any breaks in the distribution system, any main breaks. 31 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,880 » Okay. Uh Richie, any questions on this? >> No, I have I have none. Thank you. 32 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,200 » Okay, thank you. Greg, do you have any questions on this? 33 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:40,040 » Yeah, they're older notes, I guess. >> Okay, go ahead. 34 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,040 » A couple weeks ago, but um 35 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:47,280 if we We talk about material cost, right? And 36 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,400 there's a threshold there. >> Correct. 37 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:54,760 » Um greater than $5,000, correct? >> That's as with the cost escalation that 38 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,480 that every year goes up based on the engineering and 39 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,480 » So the initial was 5,000, but then it's been adjusted to Do you know where we 40 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,040 are? >> Yep. 41 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:09,400 » Yes, $15,658. >> So since we contracted annual increases 42 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:13,840 have amounted to 15,600 from 5,000. >> It's based on the engineering news uh 43 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,440 the engineering record news index. It's a It's a construction cost escalation 44 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,080 factor that's used commonly. >> party that's referenced and that's used 45 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,760 as the >> Yep. 46 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,960 » the benchmark. Starting I guess initially that was $5,000 once upon a 47 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,800 time. >> Yep. 48 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:33,080 » Um when we I know we're looking at a new 49 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,520 contract, a water contract. I I don't know where we're at with that. I know we 50 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,760 doing the study, right? >> Correct. 51 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,640 » on options and how to proceed with that. >> That's correct. 52 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:46,920 » about proceeding with that. Um one question is kind of where are we 53 00:08:44,839 --> 00:08:50,240 with that? And would this threshold be something that would carry 54 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,600 over into any potential new contract, whether it be with New London or another 55 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:56,480 party? >> Um that's a great question and one I I 56 00:08:54,839 --> 00:08:59,760 don't have an answer for yet until we have uh we would enter into 57 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,240 negotiations. It depends on what direction that we 58 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:06,200 take with the study. If we determine that we're going to take over 59 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,680 operational control of our system, then there would be no third party that we 60 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:15,640 would have to spend that money on. We would be responsible for 100% of all of 61 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:19,760 the operation maintenance um repairs, emergency or otherwise, if we don't 62 00:09:18,066 --> 00:09:23,800 [clears throat] use a a contract operator. If we use a contract operator, 63 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:28,680 then something like this could be built into the contract. Um but that is 64 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:33,440 something that the commission will make a decision on and then bring it forward 65 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:40,240 through the appropriate channels after the study has been completed. Um it's at 66 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:45,560 the end of the term um for the study that we're looking at getting a document 67 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:49,840 from RLW likely in the next couple of weeks um and that will be a draft that 68 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:55,520 goes to the commission for them to review. And after that once the 69 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:59,360 report is accepted, it will be made public. 70 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:05,440 » So, it'll be presented to Utility Commission in a couple weeks and 71 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:09,000 » Yes, and then the it's for as a draft. So, then the commission will review it. 72 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,560 There'll be some back and forth with the consultant and some decisions that need 73 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,880 to be made um which will 74 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:20,520 be made public >> But if it's a study 75 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,080 I mean, the findings of a study are kind of 76 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:28,280 the findings what >> Once it's out of draft, once it's once 77 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:33,680 it's out out of the draft form and Nick, you might want to 78 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:38,360 help with that explanation. Um, where this is in preparation for 79 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:41,960 negotiations with a contract. So, that draft study is something that the 80 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:46,480 commission go goes back and forth with the 81 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:50,040 consultant and and our attorney and once the study is complete, it is released to 82 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:53,280 the public. I think I said that correctly. 83 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,600 » So, before it's released, basically the 84 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,839 commission will have made a decision on what they want to pursue. 85 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,760 » No, the commission will make it will not make a decision on the outcome of the 86 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:10,640 study. That's for the consultant to give them a give the town advice on what the 87 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:16,760 our options are, what the capital costs are associated with that. 88 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:19,720 » Is any negotiating going on before the ROW's 89 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,480 study some >> No, we've had conversations with the 90 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,839 city of New London to see if they're interested in continuing which they are 91 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:30,760 um and they understand that we are in the process of completing the study and 92 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:35,280 once the study is complete, then if New London is the option that we decide to 93 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:38,720 pursue, then negotiations will begin. >> Um, can you remind me again when the 94 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,400 current contract's up? >> June 30th, 2028. 95 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,160 » Uh, thank you. Um, I'm just going to go through my notes 96 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,960 here and make sure I don't have anything else. I may not. 97 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,720 Um, I'm all set. Thank you. >> Sure. 98 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,880 » Rich, any other follow-ups? >> I have none. Thank you. 99 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,120 » Okay. Um, thank you, Jill. Hearing no other 100 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,080 questions, all those in favor, please say I. 101 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:13,120 » I. >> I. 102 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,360 Oppose, abstentions? Thank you. Thanks again, Jill. 103 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,800 » Thank you. >> Uh, recreation and parks to consider and 104 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,720 act on a recommendation from Shay David, purchasing agent on behalf of the 105 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,680 director of recreation and parks for surplus of the below asset, which has 106 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:30,800 outlived its usefulness to the town and has been replaced according to the fleet 107 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:35,560 management plan. Asset number 101451, a 2016 Toro Groundsmaster 10-ft mower, 108 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,560 serial number 316000766. 109 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Um, engine hours, 1,997. >> So moved. 110 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,440 » Second. >> And if you can remember, this was what 111 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,640 tabled um, last meeting. 112 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:55,160 All right. Um, 113 00:12:53,160 --> 00:13:03,040 how about we uh, follow-up? Uh, do you have a follow-up to this, Rich? 114 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:08,280 » Um, 1997 or 2,000 hours uh, for a 10-year-old machine, 115 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:11,680 not a whole lot, really. What's what's uh, what do we consider the life 116 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:17,440 expectancy at? >> Uh, typically with the with our mowers, 117 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:22,360 it's anywhere from 8 to 10 years and uh, usage is hard to tell cuz you have a 118 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:28,320 hard usage, you know, hard wear and tear on a machine versus um, soft, but 2,000 119 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:34,160 with the 10-ft mowers is actually right about 2,000 to 2,500. 120 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:38,120 Um the 2,500 you typically rarely see because that means you're putting into a 121 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,520 lot of the at that point after 2,000 hydraulics and other issues arise that 122 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:47,080 typically um set off the cost of the replacement 123 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:49,920 cuz you'll get some money for that. Um >> Have we had a lot of maintenance on this 124 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:53,080 particular unit? >> Most of our equipment yes, most of our 125 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:57,600 equipments require quite a bit of maintenance unfortunately. Um just part 126 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:01,120 of the the nature of the um of the work and the responsibilities. There's 127 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:06,360 uh all preventive maintenance is scheduled through um public works and we 128 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:09,560 make sure we manage it that way and make sure everything goes out. Um they check 129 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,400 it thoroughly. >> What about extraordinary repairs? Any 130 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:18,280 any history of excessive parts replacement? 131 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:22,080 » Um not on 60, I don't believe there was any on this one in particular. 132 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:29,240 » No other questions, thank you. >> Mr. Craig. 133 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:33,200 » Um I did a little bit of homework on these. I mean 134 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:37,560 to Rich's point, I think 2,000 is kind of on the lighter side. I 135 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:40,240 I looked up what a what what model is this? I didn't see it in the back of 136 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,080 » It's a Ground Master. >> Yeah. 137 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,960 » Uh >> 4,500 or 138 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:50,480 » Uh it's a could be I'm not sure if it's a 4,500D 139 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:56,240 or 4,200D. >> So, I saw a 4,500D with 3,000 hours it's 140 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,800 for sale for about $40,000 online. 141 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,320 » Yeah. >> Um 142 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:07,880 New new unit, how much would a new unit cost? 143 00:15:03,839 --> 00:15:11,600 » A new unit for a 10-footer from Toro >> tight. 144 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,600 » is about $103,000. 145 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:20,080 107 right in there for the last time. So, what we've done 146 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:25,760 uh as part of our long-range vision for trying to decrease our costs as 147 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:29,280 we've moved on from Toro to Ventrac, which we've discussed a few different 148 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:35,120 times about its capabilities. Um I do believe that this will 100% cut 149 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:40,760 our costs cuz as the Ventrac is a multi-functioning piece. So if the 150 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:45,320 actual base goes, like what happens with some of these Toros, 151 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:49,520 we're only replacing the base which base which is 20 to 30 grand. 152 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,440 Not 107,000. We may have an attachment that goes with 153 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:56,280 it, uh a 9-ft mowing deck attachment that may 154 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:00,440 go with it that have to be replaced, but we're not talking about $107,000 155 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:04,120 each cycle anymore. Um we've made this much more manageable 156 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,160 and actually much more effective and efficient. 157 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,320 In in our field, uh 158 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,120 capability and reliability is everything. 159 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:16,880 » Guys, I know with like residential mowers, I mean you can get a a new deck, 160 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:20,920 right? I went through this years ago. I I bought a tractor uh 161 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,400 10 12 years ago for 1,200 bucks. >> Sure. 162 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,880 » If you can believe that back then and >> Yeah. 163 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:30,080 » uh a couple years ago to get You know, I mean unfortunately I bought 164 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:33,080 a stamp deck, not a a fab deck, but so I had issues with it and to get a new deck 165 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,720 it was going to be almost what the original replacement cost was. So I 166 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:40,680 » That's typically what happens when the fleet management plan comes around, you 167 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:44,560 know, it it it's if it doesn't need replacement, we don't replace it. If 168 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:48,360 it's on the cusp and someone else can use it or we're going to get more value 169 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:51,240 for it, it's the right time where those costs offset each other. 170 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:56,800 » But I you know, when I was looking into this, 171 00:16:53,839 --> 00:16:59,400 it seemed like 4,000 to 7,000 hours is kind of 172 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,920 the lifespan. >> Was that Was that for a commercial or 173 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:07,600 was that just for your home? >> No, commercial. Commercial uh 174 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,720 4500D that I saw the price of. 175 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:12,640 » Yep. >> Um 176 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:16,920 I I I think I um 177 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:20,760 I'm hesitant with replacing things with the replacement cost of everything right 178 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,000 now in our our economy. >> I get that. 179 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:27,240 » So, I'd like to see it kind of sold on for a couple years, maybe until 180 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,160 something changes. Um 181 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,280 » Just note, this has already been replaced. 182 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,320 » Okay. >> I know, but then there'll be another 183 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,480 replacement one in a couple years. >> But so as far as getting rid of the hold 184 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,960 on to it. >> and in the hopes that you don't pull the 185 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,600 trigger on them. >> The the only 186 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:48,600 um other consideration would it be that we 187 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:52,320 do it would be an offsetting price to the current 188 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,280 price. You know, it's sort of why would a seller 189 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,600 if it's going to sit there and not if I have enough guys to run all 190 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,800 the machines. Um >> I hope that you get more staff 191 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,560 eventually, too. >> I don't have a problem holding on to it. 192 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,560 I just want to explain what might be >> I I I, 193 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,960 you know, there we could use a couple more passes here and there. 194 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,800 » Sure. >> So, I don't I said I think it's 195 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:15,200 necessary to take out of inventory. I'd rather see it manned and have a little 196 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,080 more life and then we can reset the conversation in 197 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:23,160 » Could I um >> Could I could I possibly entertain a 198 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:29,720 different thought is that um in speaking with um 199 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:35,040 Fire Chief Haley or Fire Manager Haley um talking about using some of the 200 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,880 surplus as mowers come along to go to them to help with some of their 201 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:42,320 maintenance at their buildings. >> Well, that's a great point. 202 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:49,160 » So, it it may be something. >> they own a a lot. Um by Hunts Brook that 203 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,880 I don't think they've touched this year. >> He's just it's just in conversation. 204 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:57,680 That could be a a good resolution as well to help 205 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:02,080 uh new operations that are coming transition better into our operations. 206 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,800 » be more willing to support a transfer within [snorts] the town than a surplus 207 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,240 of this machine. >> Okay. 208 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,640 » It'd be probably my response to your thought. I think it's a good thought. 209 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,200 » Yeah. That transfer would need to be to a 210 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:17,080 private organization. >> It couldn't go to it's 211 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:20,920 » It would be going to sending it over because fire services does not have this 212 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:24,440 type of equipment. So, if you want it to cover 213 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:27,840 the surrounding area, the firehouses, that 214 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:32,000 would be giving it to a volunteer company not part of the town. 215 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:37,320 » Or well, it could also be through fire services through Director Haley. So, see 216 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:41,200 » His department is not set >> internally with Parks and Rec, and Parks 217 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:46,720 and Rec can provide services to the firehouses, too. Similar in a fashion to 218 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,640 how they do the Board of Ed currently. As an idea. 219 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,000 » Yeah, there's Yeah, I'm sure that's a different discussion rather than as it 220 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,720 comes along. I don't know what they're doing now to maintain their property. 221 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,440 Um so, it's >> privately. 222 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:02,760 » They do a lot of I think uh contractor or do it privately, but as they're 223 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,040 coming I don't want to speak out of turn. I 224 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,960 mean, this isn't really my my wheelhouse. This is, you know, Chief 225 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:12,520 Haley's. Um but I know that they're working on as 226 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:16,680 this now becomes town-owned fire departments. These are now town 227 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,960 properties that need to um be maintained 228 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,720 um under the 229 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:27,640 uh ordinances. Recreation and Parks maintains some of the grounds. 230 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:32,040 Um understanding where our current responsibilities and capabilities we 231 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:37,160 just discussed. He's got guys there on shift, on call that are sometimes 232 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:41,080 available and willing and wanting to do some of that work. 233 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:46,600 Um so, we had just talked about when mowers might become available. 234 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:49,520 Not a solid arrangement or agreement, just a discussion. 235 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,800 » Yeah, I think it's a conversation uh you know, maybe for for Rob to have with his 236 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:57,720 staff. Maybe there's a a way forward there. Um but I think in that spirit um 237 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:02,040 excuse me, the first selectman should have with department heads. 238 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Um if he wants to. Um I would support that. Um and in that spirit, I would 239 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,560 prefer I'm going to vote tonight to keep this in town inventory. 240 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:13,480 Um, just because I think it's a valuable asset that could be leveraged somewhere. 241 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,160 If not in Parks and Rec, maybe to your point, somewhere else, too. 242 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,640 » Is this the type of machine that you would use on a small a small piece of 243 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,480 property? I mean, the the fire companies don't have huge 244 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:25,840 properties for the most part. >> This one in particular, no, cuz it's a 245 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,920 10-footer. Um, 246 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:33,160 it could have been used, yes, but would it hit all the areas very well? No, but 247 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,840 just throwing it out there for uh any spaces. 248 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:38,680 If it's going to be uh if it's going to be held on to, 249 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,720 that's all. Um, 250 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,840 » But >> if we we we have the replacement for it, 251 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:49,360 so I don't we we'd only use it if say something else goes down, potentially. 252 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,800 Um, >> I guess um 253 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:57,880 just just to keep the conversation going a little bit. Um, 254 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:01,320 the only firehouse we own is Oswego. >> Correct. 255 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:05,480 » And the amount of land there, it's seven strips of land. And to have this with 256 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:09,280 the bays only cut down down to three now, 257 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,760 there's no place to put, I mean, a 10-ft wide mower. 258 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:16,680 » Mhm. >> I get the point of if we can get the 259 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:19,800 funding a good amount back for this unit that can be applied to our next mower. 260 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,680 » Mhm. >> But to Greg's point, 261 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:28,880 just what is what's left in the inventory coming up? Is there anything 262 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:32,680 smaller coming up in the next year or so that's 263 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,000 that would be conducive for, you know, one 264 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,400 » I got a 54-in deck or >> something smaller that we have. 265 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:43,760 » I think we just went through those this year. The only things we have coming up 266 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:47,440 are trailers and uh maybe one of our backhoes at one point, but our our 267 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,720 mowers are this we've pretty much gone through this last cycle. 268 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:55,120 » This is all Ventracs now that we're on. >> In the next 5 years, we have no mowers 269 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,760 coming up for replacement in the that was approved last year. 270 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,440 » Got you. Okay. 271 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:05,200 » I'm still going to support keeping it in the inventory rather than surplus at 272 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:07,400 this point. Okay. All the same. >> Okay. 273 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:10,000 Um well, we have any other questions, Rich, on this? 274 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:12,840 » I have none, thank >> We have We have a motion and we have a 275 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,560 second. Um to 276 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,680 surplus this this specific unit. Um all those in favor, please say I. 277 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,880 » I. >> I. Opposed? 278 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:27,280 » I. >> Thank you. 279 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,520 All right, thank you for that, Infillo. >> Thank you. Yeah, sure. 280 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,920 » Um to consider uh recreation parks, 281 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:37,160 consider and act on awarding a contract for grass seed and fertilizers to Tom 282 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,600 Irwin Inc. through cooperative purchasing. 283 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:45,440 CRCOG bid number 789 for fiscal year 2027. 284 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,320 » So moved. >> Second. 285 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,880 » Um Rich, any questions on this? 286 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:55,000 » none on this one. >> Greg, any questions on this? 287 00:23:52,600 --> 00:24:00,000 » Uh yeah, what is the last page in the back 288 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:02,280 up represent? Is that the total scope? >> Uh that is 289 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,200 » Providing for materials or >> Yeah, well, I was just kind of giving an 290 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,720 idea. This is our fall um expense. 291 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:16,160 Uh should it be should everything be approved? Um we will have another one in 292 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:23,160 the spring. Anytime it's over $35,000 annually, um we come forward uh to 293 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:28,280 justify waving it through as a state service contract or 294 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:31,000 uh a cooperative contract. Helps that you know, we I think we've 295 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:35,000 had these conversations. I think last year was the 296 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:38,200 first year we did this. Came through and had um 297 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:42,000 the request for the to use off the state contract. 298 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:46,200 » Does um CRCOG um 299 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:50,200 Sourcewell the bid through? >> Sourcewell is CRCOG, yeah. 300 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:55,160 » All right. Did we look at any other consortiums or 301 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,520 » Uh we look I look locally cuz I like to you know, that's one of the things we 302 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,360 do. So, we'll look at John Deere Landscapes, Lesco, which we do use for 303 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:07,840 some products, but when it comes down to our organic and granular, we have gone 304 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,000 with Tom Irwin for the last 13 plus years. 305 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,880 Um it's more than a product at this point. 306 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:18,040 We've got to build a relationship where there's seminars, there's dashboards 307 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,760 that help entering 308 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:26,000 um your information to deep every year as far as what you use and how you use 309 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:30,120 it and when you put it down. Um so, there's a lot of resources other 310 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:35,280 than just the product, but we know the product works and that's the 311 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:38,360 risk I don't want to get away from. >> I understand. Um 312 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,000 I guess if we are looking at other consortiums, it's kind of 313 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:45,560 you know, supplemental to what CRCOG provides. 314 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,760 » Yep. >> it it would be good maybe to 315 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,880 you know, just have that on record and backup, but if the CRCOG put it out to 316 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,280 bid and you know, they they awarded it, I mean 317 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,440 » CRCOG source, well, we sometimes look into Massachusetts. There's a lot of 318 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,800 different ones we'll look at just to see where pricing sits so that we're 319 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,240 comfortable. >> I mean, I'd just run it by some other 320 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,240 consortiums or directly solicit a number to us some of 321 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,880 those vendors you had just mentioned. >> Okay. 322 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,200 » Or like vendors. >> Yeah. 323 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,800 » Um but I don't have any other questions. 324 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,240 » Rich, any follow-ups? >> All set, thank you. 325 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,920 » Okay, hearing no other questions, all those in favor, please say I. 326 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,120 » I. >> I. 327 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,600 Thank you, Ryan. >> Thank you. 328 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,960 » Uh public works to consider and act on authorizing the first selectman to sign 329 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:36,560 on behalf of the Board of Selectmen, the Connecticut Department of 330 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:40,360 Transportation, C DOT, Connecticut DOT, master municipal agreement for 331 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:43,240 rights-of-way projects. So, we'll 332 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,280 » Second. >> Uh Nick, thanks for joining Gary on this 333 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,680 one. >> Sure. 334 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:56,640 » So, can you give us an um just a a short, a brief 335 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,640 um 336 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,520 piece of information regarding this this request. 337 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,360 » Yes. >> Thanks, Nick. 338 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:08,120 » Nick Cappello, town attorney. Uh 339 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,920 the it's it's essentially the long and short of it, a state requirement, state 340 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:16,440 statutory requirement that in order to get state funding 341 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:20,040 uh for these road projects and these rights-of-ways, 342 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:24,760 there's a whole process of um filing a letter, 343 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:31,240 an authorization letter, and and then um you you must have this 344 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:35,000 master municipal agreement in place um 345 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:40,080 that and ours lapsed, that's why it's being redone. 346 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:43,400 Uh Gary can actually uh speak to operationally 347 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,920 how it works um in the management of Waterford's road 348 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,320 roads, but essentially um 349 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:54,080 in order to get the state funding, and then there's all as you saw from it, 350 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,440 there's requirements in the agreement about, you know, 351 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,680 the for contractors and other people 352 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:04,560 involved in the project uh in order for them to comply with various 353 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:08,880 state requirements, but the bottom line is you you don't get the 354 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:12,760 state's money unless you have a master municipal agreement with 355 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:16,360 um with the state. So, it lays out the terms and conditions 356 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:21,000 for for getting, you know, 357 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:26,800 the state funds. Because actually they won't fund these road projects without 358 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:31,040 this core agreement in place. >> Okay. Thank you, Gary. 359 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:35,240 » Uh that is correct. Uh the only thing I'd like to add to that that is we 360 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:40,960 currently have one now that's that's in the works, which is the Niantic 361 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:46,880 Niantic River Road Sidewalks. That is funded through uh the state uh using 362 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,000 state funds. So, we need to have the service agreement. Currently, that's 363 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,760 $3.2 million that the state's going to 364 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,240 has committed to us. We have a commitment letter. From the commitment 365 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:01,760 letter, then we go to a project authorization letter. After everything 366 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:06,000 has been done, after all the permits have been issued and all the agreements 367 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:11,040 have been signed, then they'll give us a the last letter is a project project 368 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:16,280 authorization letter. To get that last letter, you need to have this. 369 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:19,720 I look at it, it's it's It is the boilerplate. Just like we have 370 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:25,720 construction contracts, they have all how are we going to react with the the 371 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:30,720 contractor and what methods that we use and for that interaction or what we 372 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:36,280 require our contractors to have, you know, on the books, equal opportunity, 373 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:41,480 all the state requirements. So, this is just what it is is is it really is a 374 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:45,800 boilerplate that but as Nick says, this is not signed, those funds are those 375 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:51,000 funds will not be committed. And those are any state or or federal funds that 376 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:54,400 could be used on in the right-of-way. Could be for roads, could be for 377 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:58,080 sidewalks, could be for drainage, but any project that could be funded by the 378 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:03,320 state or the federal government. The funds flow down through CTDOT. Used 379 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:07,160 to be CONNDOT, but now the CTDOT. They flow down through them 380 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,680 to the town, so um 381 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:14,160 I've used this before. I think the town's used it before. It's not onerous. 382 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,680 It's it's not anything that we haven't done before. 383 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,560 » So, help me to understand, Naugatuck River Road is not a state 384 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,320 highway. So, 385 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,720 how does the state get involved with the funding? It's good that they do, 386 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,000 » uh That's 387 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:35,520 and because there are state funds were allocated to the different COGs for the 388 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:40,760 the local Council of Governments to uh work on projects within the local 389 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,280 through through the local road networks through the town's network. So, the flow 390 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:50,000 of money comes from the state and federal government down to the cog down 391 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:54,440 through the cog's recommendations back up to the state then into the town. So, 392 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:58,640 we we are using state funds for that for that project. 393 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:03,720 » so is is Crossroads a similar situation? >> If if if we use money for for the the 394 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:08,040 remainder of Crossroads, yes, we have several years ago about 6 years ago we 395 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:12,840 did the pavement uh the pavement resurfacing on Crossroads and put those 396 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:16,160 bike lanes in. That that was using federal money 397 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:21,400 federal to state money. That was using state money uh to do that and that was 398 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:27,360 in a tune of $800,000 I do believe for for that project. So, 399 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:32,760 it is as as as [snorts] as Nico said, this is what's required under under the 400 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:35,440 state statutes to use con- con. dot. ct. money 401 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:40,000 which is state money or the federal money that flows through con. dot. 402 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,000 » Thank you. 403 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,480 » Greg? >> Um 404 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:54,400 So, you had mentioned one road project that this pertains to currently 405 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:59,400 or prospectively. Are there any others? >> Uh currently that we have right now in 406 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,280 public works, no. Uh 407 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:07,240 we are talking about not this round but the 408 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:12,560 next round of of projects and it's uh it's in the cog's uh transportation 409 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:17,120 plan is the remainder of Crossroads which would be from uh Parkway South all 410 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:22,080 the way down to Route 1. Uh that portion is is in the cog's transportation plan 411 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:27,120 also in the state's I don't want to misquote it. It's 412 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:31,880 state's bicycle way plan. And so, uh that would be an opportunity to use 413 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:35,320 uh those state funds for uh the resurfacing of that road and 414 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,400 improvements to the sidewalks and and anything else all the way down to Route 415 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,800 1. All the way down to Route 1 right here. 416 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,000 » Correct. >> Um 417 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,320 Are you going to put a a bike lane down? It's pretty tight. 418 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,680 » Uh well, you can go from bike lanes down to shared, you know, share the road. So 419 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,240 like you could use a right-hand turn lane there. 420 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,240 Yeah, I don't don't know. Again, the right way is it gets to Route 1 gets 421 00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:00,320 really narrow. It's tight. Really tight really quick. Uh but there's other ways 422 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:05,400 of doing it. We can, you know, you can have a bike lane that then with signage 423 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:09,760 and that narrows down to share the road. Uh which is the, you know, 424 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,400 signs on the side and the uh 425 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,720 the icons uh that are painted in the road. 426 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:20,240 » Anything we can do to keep cars from idling there just moving they could 427 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,200 probably have the impact that state and federal government was looking 428 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,400 for. >> Right. Right. So So uh that that'd be 429 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:31,120 the next one. Uh there there are only these funds uh at least through the cog 430 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:36,440 can only be used on a major roads on a national road network. 431 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,760 And Cross Roads is on it. 432 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:46,240 Uh there's several others in in town that are on that uh that list. 433 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Uh Foxhall Street is not on that uh highway list but that doesn't mean that 434 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:54,960 we can't apply as we get further along with the preliminary design on that to 435 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,840 to apply for state federal uh road funds for that. 436 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,960 » Do we have the opportunity to apply for state and federal road funds for every 437 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,360 project? >> Uh not for everyone because they 438 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:10,560 estimate that there's certain criteria of traffic flow and and vol- traffic 439 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,360 flow traffic volume and that. So the the pavement on the smaller roads of a 440 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,000 Quaker Hill uh that would not that wouldn't even get 441 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,320 a point anywheres. >> Maybe Old Norwich though. 442 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:25,919 » Uh Old Norwich uh could have been one but we but we went 443 00:34:23,879 --> 00:34:30,720 and did that ourselves. Right? Because we were working on uh the Niantic River 444 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:34,840 Roadside Works using funds for that. Any projects we have here we do compete with 445 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,720 the entire uh cog. 446 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:43,520 The 11 12 communities in cog, all the communities that cog. So we So we do 447 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:50,159 complete. Uh the cog did approve several years back a sidewalk up in Basra. 448 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:53,639 So So it's they they rate them all that the projects they have. 449 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:58,160 And then there's again there's not unlimited amount of money, but the money 450 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,360 that's available to the cog then um 451 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,920 gets gets approved, gets spent. 452 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,720 » Yeah, I mean if there's federal state money available for cuz we're going to 453 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:10,560 need infrastructure help in this town. Uh this is the reality we're going to 454 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,400 face with housing and >> Absolutely. 455 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,480 » if we have the growth that we're looking to have, um we're going to need 456 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,760 infrastructure behind it and we're going to need to keep up with it and make 457 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,840 certain specific improvements in certain areas. 458 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,560 » Correct. >> Uh so every little bit I'm sure is going 459 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,600 to help. >> Yes, and 460 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:32,120 the the um prior agreement expired in February of '25. This is a 10-year 461 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:36,480 agreement. Um we don't know um 462 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:40,560 what what might become you know uh down the road, so it's it's prudent 463 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:44,640 to have it in place uh just because we may not in the moment be able to foresee 464 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,400 what projects what monies might be available for a 465 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:52,840 project 3 to 5 years down the road, so it's would seem prudent to have this 466 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:57,600 agreement in place to be in a position to utilize those funds. 467 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:01,600 » So we haven't had the uh the opportunity in the last 18 months to apply for any 468 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:04,560 of this this these funding. >> Correct. Um 469 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,920 » It's all my funding, Rich. >> Say again? 470 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,920 » No. 471 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:18,680 » We also don't want to jeopardize getting the money for Niantic River Road. 472 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:21,120 If this is not in place, that money may go away. 473 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:26,200 And that project will come to a standstill. 474 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:31,200 » I was going to ask you just about 32. 32 is a state project, has nothing to do 475 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,360 with this agreement, correct? >> Correct. 476 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:38,240 » Cuz they mentioned this during our when when we met with DOT here, but I didn't 477 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,880 know if this had anything to do with it. Okay. 478 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:45,480 » But if they were to there's a little connection spot between Old Norwich Road 479 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:49,240 and Route 32 where they did that study, and that might go on to some of the 480 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:53,440 municipal road. And I think maybe that's where they this would be pertinent to 481 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:56,640 that third Route 32 project. >> Cuz we just paved Old Norwich Road. 482 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,360 » They're doing going to do 32 >> Correct. 483 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:03,120 » at some point. And there's a little gap there that we didn't pave and and I 484 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,200 think they're looking at reconfiguring it, right? 485 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,280 » Correct. >> Correct. 486 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,600 » And they're going to pave that section. That's not 487 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,840 Okay. Thank you. 488 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,400 Rich, any other follow-ups? >> I have none. Thank you. 489 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,680 » Any other follow-ups, Greg? >> No, I mean, can we just put it on our 490 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:22,480 calendars in 10 years when this expires and make sure we're throwing darts at 491 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,400 every available project that even comes close to meeting the 492 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,560 criteria? >> Um 493 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,960 that That's all I have to say. 494 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:36,120 » I think this was back in the day when we first applied for this 4 years ago, it 495 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:40,680 was bike lanes. That was the initiative from the state of Connecticut DOT and 496 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,360 COG. So, this is why even Niantic River Road we were like, 497 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,560 "Oh, really? All right, this might qualify." And when two people passed 498 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,920 away on the road, we were like, "Pedestrian 499 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:56,160 conscious at the time." And this is how slow municipal government works, Gary. 500 00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:59,320 Cuz now we're 4 years later um and still plugging away. 501 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:03,280 » I would like to take a moment here 502 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:07,320 to talk about fatalities on roads. Bloomingdale Road, 503 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:12,120 you know, the Coast Guard cadets run on that road, so does UConn College, and a 504 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,400 lot of other pedestrian use there. And I'd like to see if we can 505 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,200 you know, maybe next time we do Bloomingdale Road, or 506 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,280 even outside of that, get a sidewalk project going to see if we can get money 507 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,560 for that for Bloomingdale Road. >> Runners don't run on the sidewalk 508 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,680 anyway, it seems. Every time you see them, they're in the 509 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,280 street. >> Yeah, well, they're running 510 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,440 » Sidewalk or not. >> They'll run three wide, you know, on 511 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,520 Bloomingdale. That's not a good road to do that. A lot of dog legs. 512 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,920 » Yeah. >> And hills. 513 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,960 » Yeah. Can you I can 514 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:45,760 » Cuz it's a big It's a big lift for the town to put a sidewalk through there, 515 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:50,320 you know, and I think it's going to provide benefit to 516 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,800 you know, the Coast Guard Academy, too. >> Right. 517 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,680 Good point. Um any other follow-ups? Rich? 518 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,840 Any other follow-ups? You? Okay, good. Thank you. And thanks for the 519 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:05,680 explanation for this 10-year plan. I appreciate it. Um so, all those in 520 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:10,120 favor, please say I. >> I. I. 521 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:15,080 » And Gary, thank you. Appreciate it. Uh no appointments or resignations, 522 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:20,040 no new business, no old business, but I do have correspondence that I think they 523 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:26,680 have gone to everyone. They went to me. Um it was about 524 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:31,320 It was anonymous. We still added it, and I and it was still accepted by 525 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:36,520 um Was this your department that ended up getting this directly, the finance 526 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:39,760 department? The Flock camera letter. It wasn't addressed to anyone except 527 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:45,880 town representatives. Um and I just figured just put it all on 528 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:50,680 um on mine, start the conversation. I mentioned it to the chief. Police chief. 529 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:55,000 He got a copy of it as well. So, the police commission, who's responsible for 530 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,760 Flock cameras and that nature, are going to start talking about that maybe at the 531 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,960 next meeting. So, I did want I just wanted to have this on cuz I know you've 532 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,720 talked about Flock, I think. >> Yeah. 533 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:08,120 » I know Rich, you've talked about Flock cameras, too. 534 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:12,000 So, just to have this kind of out here. Here's a letter that everyone got in the 535 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:15,600 region, not just our town. So, this was a 536 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:19,640 a pretty thorough uh correspondence. >> Yeah, I'm I'm happy to go publicly 537 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:23,840 against Flock. You know, I'm happy to speak to a public. 538 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,360 » Yeah. So, you got the correspondence. I will keep you guys in mind even if 539 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,680 there's something that the police commission and the chief does have 540 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,840 information, I'll have them share. I'll have them come to the next meeting so we 541 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:38,240 can talk about it, but this will be a transparent conversation with our town. 542 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,240 And or at least with me. So, okay. I wanted to give you that 543 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,720 update. I do have a tax refund. You just looked 544 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:51,560 at it before the meeting. There's only a couple of names. If you guys could just 545 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,560 take a quick peek at that. 546 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,480 Pretty small. >> So, this is one page, right? 547 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,480 » Yeah. 548 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:12,160 So, thanks for that and I'll entertain a motion for a tax refund in the amount of 549 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,160 $5,952.83. 550 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,840 » So moved. >> Second. 551 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,160 All those in favor, please say aye. >> Aye. 552 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,320 » Aye. >> Aye. 553 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,280 » Good. Thank you for that. 554 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:28,080 And I do have a board of selectmen meeting 555 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:32,280 minutes for the August 4th. Were you guys able to take a peek at the minutes? 556 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,560 » I have no comments. >> Any questions or comments? Or I'll How 557 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,920 about I entertain a motion to accept the meeting minutes? 558 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,880 » So moved. >> Second. 559 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,240 » Thank you. Now, is there any questions on that at all? 560 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,520 » I have none. >> I have none. 561 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,640 » No. Okay, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Abstentions? Good. 562 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,760 Thank you very much. I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 563 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,640 » So moved. >> Second. 564 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,280 » Thank you. All those in favor? >> Aye. 565 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,280 » Have a great night, everyone.