1 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:52,840 Call to order for a Watertown City Council meeting for August 17th of 2026. 2 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:58,120 Please rise while our good friend and Watertown Fire Rescue Chaplain Hank 3 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,120 Rosso leads us in prayer. 4 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,960 » Thank you. Our heavenly Father, as we come to you 5 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:10,440 this evening, we say thank you first of all for your many blessings. We take so 6 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,840 much for granted. Our good health, our families, um a 7 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,400 loving uh environment here where people are 8 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,840 safe and they can say hi to one another and you don't have to worry about 9 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:24,160 getting mugged or your car carjacked. And we overlook those things and there's 10 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:28,160 other parts of this country that aren't so pleasant. And so we say thank you. 11 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Thank you for law enforcement, firefighters, paramedics to keep us safe 12 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:36,960 at night, watch over us in the darkest of times. Thank you, Lord, for the city 13 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:41,320 services we enjoy as well. Things we take for granted. And um we're 14 00:01:39,320 --> 00:01:45,360 so blessed tonight. I thank you for the common bond that we share, the love of 15 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:50,960 community. It's a pretty rich here as well. God, we ask for collaboration and 16 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:55,200 and uh dying to ourself and good wisdom and insight in decisions and the work to 17 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:58,880 be done here tonight. And we say thank you. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. 18 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,160 » Amen. Okay, before we go straight into the 19 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,160 pledge, I'm just going to do a moment of silence 20 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:09,000 for Dan Miller. Dan was a 21 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:13,360 If you don't know who Dan is, you probably haven't lived in Watertown in a 22 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:18,560 long time, but uh a guy who really made an impact upon Watertown 23 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:21,400 and the community. So, just a brief moment of silence. 24 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:37,320 All right, thank you. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 25 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:43,240 United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation 26 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,200 under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 27 00:02:46,371 --> 00:02:48,391 » [clears throat] 28 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,200 » Finance Officer Bob Zein, please call the roll. 29 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,920 » Okay. Lawyer? Absent. Pauline? 30 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,360 » Here. >> Mormon? 31 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,880 » Here. >> Jurgens? 32 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,120 » Here. >> Peters? 33 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,200 » Here. >> Shutty? 34 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,280 » Here. >> Allen? 35 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,080 » Here. >> Thank you. 36 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:14,160 » Quorum is established. I'll ask if anyone has a conflict of interest 37 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,160 tonight. 38 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,400 Hearing none, can I get a motion to approve tonight's agenda? 39 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,720 » Second. >> Motion made by Councilman Shutty, 40 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,680 seconded by Councilman Peters. All those in favor of approving the 41 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,840 agenda, please say aye. >> Aye. 42 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,840 » Aye. >> Any opposed say nay. 43 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,680 Motion carries. We're on to open forum. If there is 44 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,480 anyone who would like to address the council, now is your time to do so. 45 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:45,959 Just please identify who you are and that's about it. 46 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,320 Uh is the light on? 47 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,240 Shh, maybe press the button to say your name. There we go. There we go. 48 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,960 » So, thank you, Mr. Mayor. My name is James Simmons. Thank you, distinguished 49 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,640 council members. I had a few issues I wanted to bring up, 50 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,560 but I'll limit it to just one for the sake of time. I think the one that might 51 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:09,640 have a time-sensitive nature to it. I'm not 100% sure. 52 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:13,600 The issue regarding is is regarding a system that's used by the Watertown PD 53 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:17,959 known as automatic license plate readers or ALPR for short. 54 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,239 This is For some reason this has been a hot topic on social media for the last 55 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,080 couple months. I don't know why. It's been near and dear to me for quite a 56 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,919 while now. And I don't mean to pick on you, Chief 57 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,440 Toohey. I got nothing but respect for you. Chief Toohey was was 58 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:33,160 very generous with his time, sat down with me, and answered a bunch of 59 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:36,640 ridiculous questions that I had for him. So, I appreciate you for that. So, this 60 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,960 is timely because these systems have been in the news here 61 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,080 in South Dakota for the last over this past week. There was two 62 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:47,040 different things that came out. One from the state attorney general, 63 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:51,840 Attorney General Jackley, who said that he made a public statement acknowledging 64 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:57,400 that these systems are susceptible to abuse and misuse. And so, 65 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,960 he's going to be implementing statewide policy to try to curb that. 66 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,640 You know, that sounds That sounds good and all for the people 67 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:07,120 who pay attention on social media, but I think it's personally too little, too 68 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:11,240 late. Um Any statewide policy or even any 69 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:15,000 department level policy is only going to limit how these gentlemen here utilize 70 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,680 the system. And to be completely transparent, I don't think we have an 71 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,400 issue with with the officers here in Watertown PD 72 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,880 or with the deputies at the county sheriff's office. 73 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,680 I think we have pretty good officers. I think they're not misusing the system. 74 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:33,919 My concern primarily resides with what happens to the data that these cameras 75 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,400 collect once it goes off to the third-party 76 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,080 company that houses that data. You know, we use Axon 77 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:46,160 cameras here in Watertown, which I'm sure everybody here is aware of that. 78 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,600 Axon is headquartered in Um, Scottsdale, Arizona. 79 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,800 So, all the data captured by these cameras goes to Scottsdale. They have 80 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,920 it. They have possession of it. They can do whatever they want with it. They can 81 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,720 analyze it any way they want. They can share it with whoever they want, and 82 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:59,560 there's nothing we can do to prevent that. 83 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,000 And so, that's really the primary concern that I have. There's no 84 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,840 state-level policy that can restrict that. And so, I think the state the 85 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,480 state's attorney's um policy is perhaps, like I said, too 86 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,520 little, too late. Another um 87 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:17,040 public uh announcement that came out this week was that the South Dakota 88 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:21,640 DCI, which is the Department of uh Criminal Investigations, 89 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:26,080 um they made it publicly aware that they are rolling out a statewide 90 00:06:23,919 --> 00:06:30,440 ALPR program. Um, and this only came to my attention 91 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:36,440 because the mayor of Aberdeen posted to his personal Facebook page uh that 92 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:40,840 Aberdeen was approached by the state DCI to have the city uh participate in the 93 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:44,280 statewide program. So, the mayor of Aberdeen posted to his personal Facebook 94 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:48,520 page and said, "Hey, Aberdeen, let me know what you think." And boy, did he 95 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:52,600 get some some feedback. Uh I can tell you the comments were about 20 to 1 in 96 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,600 opposition of the uh of the program. And so, he said, "Hey, you know what? 97 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,040 Message loud and clear. We will not participate in the program." So, hey, 98 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:03,560 way to go, Aberdeen. Good for y'all. Uh but here we are in Watertown. We 99 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:06,200 already have the Axon ALPRs here in the system here. So, 100 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:11,040 um I suppose what I would like to see is or 101 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:14,840 I'd like to understand at least if we are being approached by the state to 102 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,760 participate in the statewide program. I assume it's naturally 103 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,760 that we are being approached to uh participate in that program. 104 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,919 I would ask, what does that program consist of? You know, the state's 105 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,600 spending like 300 grand to buy new equipment. Does that mean we're going to 106 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,840 have more cameras here in Watertown? If we are participating, maybe we're not, I 107 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:34,320 don't know. But, uh if we do participate, well then 108 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,880 who does that open the door to gain access to this information? Uh what are 109 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,760 they going to do with the system? What the what the uh what the data collected? 110 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,120 So, again, the biggest concern is what happens to 111 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,400 the data, who has access to it once it leaves Codington County. And if we 112 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,400 participate in this program, all that data automatically leaves Codington 113 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,120 County. So, what's happening to it? That's the big concern that I have. So, 114 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,440 are we participating in that statewide program? 115 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:01,320 Who has access to that data? Does that involve any additional technology, more 116 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:05,600 cameras in our community? Like, what are those answers? So, and then I would like 117 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,560 to wrap up with maybe a request, if I could. 118 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:13,440 There's a So, there's a meeting in Brookings tonight 119 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:16,520 talking about this exact topic. Um, Brookings has Flock cameras. 120 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,080 Codington County Sheriff has Flock cameras. Sioux Falls has Flock cameras. 121 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Sioux Falls is having a meeting on this topic Friday night. Um, I would ask that 122 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,680 we in Watertown also host some kind of public forum to discuss it. I'd like to 123 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:31,840 invite, you know, the chief and the sheriff and maybe the mayor, city 124 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,080 uh city manager, maybe the Codington County um commissioners. Let's all get 125 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:38,479 together in a room, invite the public, and let's just have an open civil 126 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,320 conversation about it, and let's see where the public sits and you know, 127 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,680 where the the people who oppose and and object to 128 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,920 and the people who advocate for the system, let's see where we all sit and 129 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,200 if it's right for the community or not. And I'd be happy to facilitate and 130 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:55,600 coordinate that type of a forum in any way I can. So, that's all. Thanks for 131 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,600 your time. 132 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:02,200 » Thank you very much, Mr. Simmons. Is there anyone else who would like to 133 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,200 address the council? 134 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,680 I will close open forum. 135 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:16,000 And we'll go to item 11A, which is a first reading of an ordinance amending 136 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:20,440 chapter 7, Bicycles and Other Personal Conveyances, of title 19, Traffic, of 137 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:24,680 the Revised Ordinances of the City of Watertown. 138 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,440 We are going to our Assistant Chief, Ryan Remmers. 139 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:35,560 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. Um, as you recall, 2 weeks ago 140 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:41,560 I was here and we did a different first reading um for this same topic, but the 141 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:45,880 language has been slightly changed after hearing some feedback from members of 142 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:50,040 the council and in conversing with city manager Stager um 143 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,560 so what you have in front of you today I believe is a 144 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:57,840 second first reading. Another first reading just to keep it 145 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:02,280 less confusing. Um, what I'd like to do is just highlight some of the changes 146 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:05,200 that were made in an effort to make it more palatable for the council and the 147 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:11,280 community. Um, in that first version we used the 148 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:16,400 kind of some canned language in the existing ordinances that defined 149 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:21,280 business district and just for further clarification that business district in 150 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:26,440 the existing language is includes 1st Avenue North, 1st Avenue South East as 151 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:31,040 far as 2nd Street and then West as far as 1st Street West. 152 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:35,240 Um, the feedback that we got was that we don't necessarily have a known problem 153 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:40,240 with wheeled vehicles on 1st Avenue South, 1st Avenue North. 154 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:45,960 Um, so um, what we did is we changed the language a little bit here to go away 155 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:50,080 from that business district language and just include where signs or other 156 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:54,240 notices say that you cannot ride them. 157 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:57,280 Um, so that gives us the flexibility to change 158 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:01,240 uh, without having to change the ordinance. Um, that may sound scary to 159 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,960 some but it's not a situation where we just 160 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:11,040 go up and put up a sign and make a change. What we would be proposing to do 161 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:14,800 is to run those locations through our city's traffic safety committee. And for 162 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,960 those of you who may not be aware of what that is is it's a a group that 163 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,680 meets quarterly. Uh, we take feedback from the community 164 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:27,000 throughout each quarter and then create an agenda based on the comments that we 165 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:31,720 receive from the public, concerns about speed limits here, turning lanes added 166 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:36,720 there, stop signs, yield signs. And uh they get put on an agenda and 167 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:41,560 then it's the the the committee is made up of city manager Stager, uh the police 168 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:45,240 department, the street division, the city engineer's office. 169 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:49,920 And uh we all get together collectively and and uh look at those individual 170 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:54,240 items. This would potentially be one of those items that we would look at in 171 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:58,840 that group to try to decide where exactly we would want to prohibit 172 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:02,080 wheeled vehicles. And I can tell you at first glance without meeting with that 173 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:07,360 committee, but the feedback that we've heard is that we're primarily concerned 174 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:12,400 with the most densely pedestrian heavy areas and that would be from the again, 175 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:16,320 this is just initial thoughts from Unkefer Avenue, from Foundation Plaza 176 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:20,320 over to Broadway. So, we're essentially um this would be 177 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:24,840 making a change instead of having the entire downtown business business 178 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:28,680 district to just potentially changing it to something as small as that. 179 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:31,840 Um that's really all that I have unless you 180 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,240 have any other questions about some of the changes that were made from the last 181 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:40,560 time 2 weeks ago. >> Well, we will ask you to stand by for 182 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:44,760 any questions, but Council, this is a second first reading as the assistant 183 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:50,760 chief said, but uh we encourage questions. Does anyone have any? 184 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:55,040 Councilman Shetty? Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, assistant 185 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:59,320 chief. So, if you could repeat which section you're considering, of course, 186 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:03,000 this if this were to pass, you would you would we wait until it 187 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:06,480 goes to the committee to really properly vet this? Is that would be the proper 188 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,600 protocol to do this? >> That would make the most logical sense 189 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:14,040 to me. That committee just met 2 weeks ago and it meets every quarter, but it 190 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:18,000 wouldn't take much effort for us to have an impromptu meeting of that committee. 191 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,200 Nothing that binds us to the once every quarter 192 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:25,960 thing. So, if we wanted to or if if you guys wanted us to, we could move faster 193 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,680 on it than uh I'm sure there's going to be a a 194 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:32,600 little waiting period before the ordinance goes into effect, but that 195 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:36,560 would give us enough time to to meet and sit down and look at it logically. Where 196 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:40,560 do we want to do this? >> And the reason I ask follow up is, you 197 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:44,240 know, it's we get feedback from the community. As a council, we get feedback 198 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,400 on certain topics. But there's always wisdom in 199 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:51,040 breathing for a moment and thinking it through and and having the committee 200 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,720 work through it and not just a knee-jerk reaction. So 201 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,960 I really appreciate the direction we're going on this wording so we can maybe 202 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,520 just have it fit certain areas. So I would recommend you that we just have 203 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,520 the committee get together whenever the time is right to 204 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:08,480 to do this. However, if we if it passes, um my other 205 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:13,000 question I guess would be then what was the You had mentioned 206 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,440 What sections were you at least was on the radar, I guess, for this 207 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,680 potentially? >> Sections of the ordinance proposed or 208 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,800 the geographical locations of the >> locations for the walk your bike 209 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,560 scenario. >> Right. What we've heard um feedback from 210 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,960 a couple of council members and we think that makes logical sense as a starting 211 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:33,360 point would be everything just on Camp Avenue 212 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,480 in a restricted area of Camp Avenue from Foundation Plaza, so we'll call that I 213 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:42,880 think that's Third Street that T intersection there at Foundation Plaza. 214 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Over to the west would be Broadway. >> So in front of the uh Foundation Plaza 215 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:51,920 is considered as walking your bike in front of the plaza or would it be 216 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:55,480 » Those would be the restricted zone, but there again that would be something that 217 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:58,640 we would have to take feedback from you and from the community, put it in front 218 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:03,760 of that uh that traffic safety committee and see 219 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,600 what the various entities want for that restriction. 220 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,720 » Which geographical area? >> The reason I bring that up is, you know, 221 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:13,000 we we put that park downtown and it's going to draw, you know, bicyclists and 222 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:16,120 stuff like that downtown. I believe, and maybe I'm wrong, is the 223 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,160 issue more in front of certain businesses with pedestrians and 224 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,160 businesses and coming in and out of the businesses or alleys. So So, would tell 225 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:27,360 me that maybe the park road doesn't have to be walked because it's not really 226 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:31,400 that's not the issue. But, that's just one man one guy thinking it out with 227 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:35,360 with direction. So, that's why I think with with feedback you get, you know, 228 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,720 having our committee work on it and I look forward to what we what we come up 229 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,720 with. So, >> Yeah. 230 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:43,560 » One of the other advantages we thought of with that area is that there for all 231 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:47,560 we know there might be a another location a year from now. Just 232 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:52,280 completely speaking in hypothetical here, but you may have the Lake Lake 233 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:57,920 Erie Tech might that they want to make the sidewalks around their campus. So, 234 00:15:54,680 --> 00:16:02,640 this would be handled via that committee signage, but we wouldn't necessarily 235 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:05,360 have to change any ordinance this way. And and Lake Erie Tech has not 236 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,840 approached us. I'm just speaking hypothetically. 237 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:14,080 » Councilman Peters. >> Just a maybe a couple quick questions to 238 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:18,360 piggyback off what Dan said. So, what about like 239 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:21,840 residential areas? And what is this committee gets together quarterly? What 240 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:25,600 what are they looking for? Is it vehicle counts? Is it, you know, population 241 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,920 density? Like what are the qualifications to say 242 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:34,200 this is a highly trafficked area? What what is that defined by? 243 00:16:31,839 --> 00:16:40,160 » We haven't addressed that yet. Typically at at present the issues that are taken 244 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:42,760 upon by this committee are generally I wouldn't necessarily call them 245 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,839 complaints, but maybe concerns of citizens where they say, I would like a 246 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:50,680 stop sign at this intersection or I would like the speed limit reduced from 247 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:54,960 35 to 25. So, instead of knee-jerk reacting at 248 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:59,480 those, what we do is we bring those in front of this committee and it's again 249 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:04,319 made up of the engineers office, police input, streets, 250 00:17:01,839 --> 00:17:08,199 city manager, and we sit down and we we each have our different hats on and why 251 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:13,880 why this makes logical sense to make this change or to leave it as is. 252 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:17,959 So, it's typically parking issues and stop signs and speed limits and turning 253 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:22,040 lanes need to be added here. Can we reconfigure a stoplight to cycle in a 254 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:24,760 different format? >> Got it. Okay, that's helpful. And then 255 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:28,439 where I was going with that is if we have one side of the community that 256 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:34,360 says, "Hey, we don't want these things here." And they pass the sniff test of 257 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:37,360 vehicle counts or whatever. And you know, 300 ft over, this 258 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,400 neighborhood's like, "Well, yeah, we're okay with it." And we're now we're 259 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:44,200 checkerboarding all these areas of where we can or can't have bikes. And And how 260 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,720 do we monitor or how do we manage that appropriately? So, thank you for that. 261 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:51,320 » Yeah. >> Councilman Allen or City Manager Steger, 262 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:56,440 did you have something to >> I I did. I was just going to point out 263 00:17:53,920 --> 00:18:00,800 that one of the benefits of utilizing the committee is we are looking at the 264 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:05,000 traffic system for the community as a whole. And the traffic system wouldn't 265 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:10,560 flow appropriately if we had the checkerboard you know, neighborhood A 266 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:15,680 versus neighborhood B. And so, we do take changes very seriously. 267 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:20,200 And and even reversing changes, we consider very carefully because you 268 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:25,960 don't want people to have the muscle memory of where a stop sign is and to 269 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:30,800 flip and flop on that stop sign uh meeting to meeting. So, I I wouldn't 270 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:37,440 anticipate ever having a checkerboard type of of system in place here. 271 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:44,440 » Thank you, Councilman Allen. >> Thank you, Assistant Chief. Um 272 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Can you talk a little bit about the uh 273 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:51,560 We have a relatively long list of personal conveyances. 274 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:56,160 And what was your thinking about that? Cuz it's I mean, skateboards and a lot 275 00:18:54,040 --> 00:19:00,800 of things that I don't think probably are really 276 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:06,560 as much of an issue as electric scooters, electric bikes. So. 277 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:10,840 » Right. So, the list that is in the current proposed ordinance is 278 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:15,160 essentially the same list that's been there for quite some time. Um so it 279 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:20,000 would have been council members long before you guys were here that would 280 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:23,920 have created that that list. Now we did propose changing there's some just some 281 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:27,240 like um we're using inline skates instead of 282 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:32,880 rollerblades cuz rollerblades is a brand. Um I guess I would equate it to 283 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:37,080 like Kleenex or or Pop-Tarts. Um it it just makes sense to using the generic 284 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,640 term as opposed to a um 285 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:44,960 a specific brand. Other than that, I think it's basically largely unchanged 286 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,200 as far as what the the list is. 287 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:54,360 Um >> Cuz I guess carts, I don't know exactly 288 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:57,840 what a cart is or or a toy vehicle, what >> I'm I'm assuming what a toy vehicle 289 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,840 would be is like those little tiny police cars that little boys and girls 290 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,680 ride >> controlled stuff. 291 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,400 » maybe maybe it's that, but I don't I don't think it'd be a radio controlled 292 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:09,120 thing because it's not going to be you're not riding in that. I'm assuming 293 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:12,480 we're talking about like little kids toy vehicle. I think somebody mentioned it 294 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:17,280 on the council last week like a or a couple weeks ago like a little battery 295 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:20,520 powered toy cart or toy car that somebody rides on. 296 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:24,480 » seen those little convertibles or tractors or whatever 297 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,240 kids riding on that are electric. >> I've never written a ticket for that so 298 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,760 I I spent a long time and haven't run 299 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,720 across that. >> Yeah. 300 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,240 » They They existed sometime in the ordinance so 301 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:38,720 » Yeah. I mean I I don't have a particular issue 302 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:42,000 with the number of personal conveyances, but it it uh 303 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,800 um I guess I'm just interested in being as 304 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:50,880 simplistic as possible and and my bias is that I think if people just used a 305 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,000 little common sense, um 306 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:58,200 probably we'd be better off than we are right now cuz I'm sure you don't want to 307 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:03,200 be writing a lot of tickets uh for you know 308 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:06,480 somebody not walking their skateboard or whatever, but I 309 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,880 Yeah. >> I know that it's it's our goal at the 310 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,440 police department this would be a voluntary compliance thing more than it 311 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,680 would be a I mean we don't want to be writing tickets to people for riding 312 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:22,680 their bicycle or their scooter. We we feel that if you were to prominently 313 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:26,680 display signage and the other passersby on the road would maybe give somebody a 314 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:30,560 sideways look if they're and and before long they would hop off and just comply 315 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:34,120 with that out of respect for everybody around them. 316 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:38,560 » Yeah. I would hope so. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments? 317 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,680 I would just like to thank the everyone at the police department who has been 318 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:46,680 working on this, members of the community, members of our staff. 319 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:51,240 I think we're getting very close to a good solution and I'd like to say that 320 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:56,160 from what I've heard from at least a couple business owners downtown is that 321 00:21:54,600 --> 00:22:00,680 the conversation that we have been having over the last couple weeks has in 322 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:04,440 and of itself made a difference in raising awareness 323 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:08,560 and that is a good thing. Um 324 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:13,480 I also like the flexibility that this proposed ordinance has. The one concern 325 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:17,920 that I had with the old one was it seemed like so broad with the entire 326 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:21,600 downtown district, but this seems to me much more appropriate. You're using a 327 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:26,200 scalpel to cut out the problem area instead of a broadsword. 328 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:30,120 And I approve of that and it also gives you flexibility 329 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:35,280 because let's say if um the awareness raises to the point where 330 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:42,040 it's no longer an issue then the police department can amend the area 331 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:46,160 potentially taking it down or up and I think that's probably a really good 332 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:49,800 thing. So, thank you for the work that has been done on this and we'll see it 333 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,880 back in a couple weeks. 334 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:57,800 Thank you. Item 12A is an annexation and zoning of 335 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,720 property to be known as Martin's addition 336 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:05,960 and we have two separate motions under there. One is the approval of a 337 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:09,040 resolution initiating annexation of attractive land contiguous to the city 338 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:13,280 of Watertown. And item two under there is a second 339 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:18,040 reading of an ordinance 26-29 establishing the zoning designation of 340 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:23,320 R1 single-family residential district. I will allow 341 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:27,320 conversation and questions on both, but I think that we need to take two 342 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:31,120 separate actions when the time comes. We'll go to our community development 343 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:36,640 manager, Brandy Hanten. >> Thank you, Mayor. So, this is the second 344 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:42,800 reading for the annexation and zoning of a piece of property that abuts 345 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:50,280 already annexed and already annexed lot and development to the north. This 346 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:56,840 property encompasses 13,557 uh square feet, and it will connect to 347 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:03,160 as you can see on the map that's pulled up, that blue hatched area is the 348 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:08,360 lot being proposed for annexation and zoning as R1 single-family residential 349 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:14,520 district, and then it will be added on to the lot directly to the north that is 350 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:19,080 already annexed and zoned as it's under one ownership. So, with that, I'll stand 351 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:23,320 by for questions. >> Thank you. I will open a public hearing 352 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:27,080 on this item. Is there anyone who would like to 353 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,080 testify? 354 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:36,960 I'll close the public hearing. Council, can I get a motion to approve item 12 355 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,960 A1, which is the resolution? 356 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:43,240 Motion made by Councilman Shutty, seconded by Councilman Peters. And 357 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:47,960 again, Council, you can talk on both one and two, but we will be voting on one 358 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:52,440 first. Council, anything? Councilman Mormon. 359 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:56,760 » Uh just a quick question. Um community development manager Hanten, 360 00:24:54,440 --> 00:25:00,720 for the benefit of the public and for I've had a few people ask me this 361 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:04,360 question. How 362 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:08,080 how they're allowed to annex a small portion like that when typically in 363 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:12,760 Cottonwood County you have to have 35 acres. 364 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:17,920 » Yes, so that is actually why they're annexing and zoning because 365 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:21,040 they did try to get a building permit in the county to build the accessory 366 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,640 structure. And they were unable to because of that 367 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:30,240 35-acre requirement. So that is why they have to 368 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:35,920 look at annexing and zoning it because the city for an R1 lot we only require 369 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:41,360 9,000 square feet minimum. So that's why they're going this route. 370 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,360 » Okay, thank you. 371 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,160 Any other questions? Councilman Allen. 372 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:51,080 » So uh 373 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:56,120 essentially we're annexing because it's the only option for them because they 374 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:59,280 tried to work through the county but the county's 375 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:05,680 uh regulations are such that they're not 376 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:10,720 there's no flexibility for them. Did they did they try and the county 377 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:16,960 commissioners said no, we're not doing that or how did that work? 378 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:20,520 » There there is the attachment that has the 379 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:24,800 um the minutes or the background to the county's 380 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,000 uh action on this on this property. Um 381 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:32,120 but it's actually beneficial when property 382 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:36,640 that's directly abutting city limits is annexed and zoned and regulated than 383 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:41,840 just within the city. And that's something that the joint jurisdiction 384 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:47,880 ordinance also protects. So we would rather see that. 385 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,880 » I'll review that. Thank you. 386 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:56,400 Any other questions or comments? Council, the motion in front of us is to 387 00:26:53,960 --> 00:27:01,080 approve the resolution initiating the annexation of the land. All those in 388 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:05,120 favor will say I, oppose nay. Finance Officer Bobzien, please call the roll. 389 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,440 » Okay. Pauline? >> I. 390 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,520 » Mormon? >> I. 391 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,520 » Jurgens? 392 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,520 » I. >> Peters? 393 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,480 » I. >> Schutty? 394 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,040 » I. >> Allen? 395 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:19,120 » I. >> Motion carries. 396 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Item Can I Council, can I get a motion on 12 A 2, which is the 397 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,800 ordinance establishing the zoning designation of R1. 398 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,320 Councilman Motion made by Councilman Mormon, second 399 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,200 by Councilman Peters. Council, any discussion? 400 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:43,800 Hearing none, we'll go to a voice vote. All those in favor of approving the 401 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,040 ordinance, please say I. 402 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,880 » I. >> I. 403 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:55,600 » Any opposed say nay. Motion carries. Item 12 B is an application for a 404 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:59,440 transfer of ownership of a retail malt beverage and South Dakota farm wine 405 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:06,040 license and video lottery license from 727 Incorporated, Freedom Watertown, 225 406 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:10,320 West Kemp West Kemp Avenue to K&L Investment Group Incorporated, Freedom 407 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,640 Watertown at the same location. Finance Officer Bobzien. 408 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,240 » Okay, thank you, Mayor. Yes, in front of the council, this will just be a 409 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:21,320 transfer of ownership. So, the location stays the same. Everything else is is 410 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,080 exactly the same. All fees have been paid. Notices published. Everything's in 411 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,920 line. If you have questions, I can answer them. Thank you. 412 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:33,080 » Thank you. I will open a public hearing. Would 413 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,080 anyone like to testify on this item? 414 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,800 I'll close the public hearing. Council, can I get a motion to approve the 415 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,800 transfer? 416 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,800 Motion made by Councilman Mormon, second by Councilman Peters. Any discussion, 417 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,800 Council? 418 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,240 Hearing none, the motion is to approve the transfer of ownership. All those in 419 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,640 favor, please say aye. >> Aye. 420 00:28:54,120 --> 00:29:00,200 » Any opposed say nay. Motion carries. 421 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:07,160 Item 12C is an approval of a 25-year lease renewable for one additional 422 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:12,280 10-year term with Dynaware LLC on 5,625 square feet of city-owned real 423 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:17,680 property located at the Watertown Regional Airport on which on which the 424 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:23,160 lessee's [snorts] privately owned 75-ft by 75-ft hangar will be situated in the 425 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:29,680 amount of $1,125 per year with a 2% annual increase. 426 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Airport Director Ian Merryweather is with us tonight to tell us more. 427 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,800 » Thank you, Mayor. [clears throat] Uh Councilman, 428 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:43,120 um as the Mayor stated, this is 75-ft by 75-ft hangar, um and I do want to note 429 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:48,640 that it is the land upon which the structure is um so you can purchase it, 430 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,560 and that's what happened in this case. It was taken over by a different entity, 431 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:57,120 and as such, um they are assessed property taxes. So, this is simply for 432 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:00,640 the land, not the structure itself. Um and with that, I'll stand by for any 433 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:06,200 questions. >> Thank you. I will open a public hearing. 434 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,200 Would anyone like to testify? 435 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:14,680 I'll close the public hearing. Council, can I get a motion to approve the lease? 436 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:20,680 Motion made by Councilman Shutty. Seconded by Councilman Mormon. Council, 437 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,680 any discussion? 438 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,920 All right. Hearing none, all those in favor of approving the lease, please say 439 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,520 aye. >> Aye. 440 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:35,640 » Any Any opposed say nay. Motion carries. 441 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:39,440 13A is an approval of insurance policies and authorization for payment for 442 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,880 premiums for general liability, auto liability, and physical damage, law 443 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,720 enforcement liability, buildings and contents, equipment property damage and 444 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:51,280 equipment breakdown, boiler and machinery coverage, and authorization 445 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:54,840 for the chief financial officer to issue a special check. We will go to said 446 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,800 chief financial officer to tell us more. 447 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:02,240 » Thank you, Mayor. That was a a long motion there. Um 448 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:07,880 Nick is going to pull up I have just a very short PowerPoint. So, um it's that 449 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:12,400 time of year, annual renewal for our liability insurance. 450 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:15,680 Um I wanted to just go over a few things cuz we had some conversations last year 451 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:20,960 about this. Of the 18 first-class municipalities, 452 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:24,120 only one of those is not um currently part of the pool. 453 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,760 Um I've listed all the ones that are currently part of South Dakota Public 454 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:32,480 Assurance Alliance. We have been a member since 1991. 455 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:38,840 Um in the last 5 years, the pool has only had two members leave, um and then 456 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:43,840 one has returned. And re-entry into the pool does have a 2-year 457 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,800 time frame. So, just so we're kind of aware of that. 458 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:52,840 Um Our current renewal for 2026-2027 459 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:59,280 came in at just shy of 1.2 million. This is an increase overall of $1,408, 460 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:05,600 so relatively flat. The majority of that was due to the property values um up 461 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:08,920 from 373 million to 401 million. Um otherwise, costs have stayed pretty 462 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:14,040 steady. The next slide here just kind of shows 463 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:18,280 over the last 3 years where we've sat between our liability, our property, and 464 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:22,600 then our equipment breakdown. Um and then on the right side there's a 465 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:28,320 comparative where you can see the changes. I will say that part of the 466 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:32,760 liability and auto is we did have the fleet committee go through and look at 467 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,240 how we are um maintaining coverage on certain pieces 468 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,960 of equipment, whether that's full replacement value, or there's just 469 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:46,880 liability, stuff like that. So, after that review, um we did decrease the 470 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:51,360 liability in auto 11% and then, like I said, property's up 12. 471 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:55,960 Uh the next slide here kind of says what's driving those 472 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:58,840 changes. Um the main change is due to the property 473 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:04,120 valuations. We are currently receiving a 7 and 1/2 474 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:08,000 uh percent inflation guard. The reason we're receiving that is cuz we haven't 475 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:13,520 had our full evaluation of our property. They were here this summer. Um HCA Asset 476 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:17,280 Management came in. They take pictures of every single piece of property. They 477 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,640 write down all the details, square footage, what the materials are. 478 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Um South Dakota Public Assurance Alliance 479 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,320 will be going through that and then we will sit down with them and we will look 480 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:31,440 at that and there could potentially be adjustments to our property valuations. 481 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,840 Uh and then 482 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,360 yeah, kind of went over the auto, how the fleet committee did look at our 483 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:42,920 coverages on those. Um 484 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:47,760 so, last but not least, the city's portion of the premium will be 866,000 485 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:52,360 and the municipal utilities will be around 318,000. 486 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,960 Um I guess for us, uh we're looking for an approval 487 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:02,160 of this renewal and then the next steps that the staff will do is once we do 488 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,160 receive that 489 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:09,120 assessment from HCA and South Dakota Public Assurance Alliance, we'll sit 490 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:13,600 down and kind of look at the replacement actual cash value and some of those 491 00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:17,480 different options for our property. So, if there's any questions, I can 492 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:22,240 answer them. Thank you. >> Thank you. Council, can I get a motion 493 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,240 to approve the policies? 494 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:28,840 Motion made by Councilman Mormon. Seconded by Councilman Shutty. 495 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:31,120 Council, any discussion? Councilman Peters. 496 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:35,040 » I just have a quick question, Kristen. Thank you for this um PowerPoint. This 497 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:38,679 answered a lot of my questions, but why would Rapid City not be the pool? What 498 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:42,480 would there What do you think that they're currently doing? Is it something 499 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,480 for us to consider as well, or what's the reasoning behind that? 500 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:51,919 » I wouldn't know. I'd probably have to reach out to them. I did reach out to 501 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:55,480 some of the other I Brookings, Aberdeen, um 502 00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:01,080 What was the other one I reached out to? Mitchell, I think. And yeah, I think 503 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:05,320 others have went out and looked, and they just never feel like they can quite 504 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:09,200 get the same amount of coverage as what we get through South Dakota Public 505 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:13,160 Assurance Alliance, just because of some of the uniqueness to our We even have 506 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,840 our law enforcement liability and things like that. 507 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,520 » Got it. Okay. Yeah, I'd be curious to know 508 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,040 who they go with just as another option in the future, but thank you. 509 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,040 » Yep. 510 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,880 » Any other >> I may have 511 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:29,840 » Councilman Johns. >> Yeah, I have a second. 512 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,240 » Yep. Yes. >> Being in the business doesn't make me an 513 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,080 expert. Um 514 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:41,760 what I do know though is that when I go through Rapid City and I see hail 515 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:46,800 shields over the top of trailer sales and vehicle sales, and they're the only 516 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:50,280 city in the state that has uh extra protection because those 517 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:55,600 dealerships are having difficulty finding coverage. Uh we can be blessed 518 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:59,600 that they're not in this pool uh because uh 519 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:05,240 I've had one hail claim in my agency this week. Guess where it's from? 520 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:09,440 Rapid City. It's not from Watertown. It's not from 521 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:14,600 Brookings. It's not from Castlewood. It's not from Clark. 522 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:20,600 It's Rapid. They get whacked every year out there, so 523 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:25,760 I don't know if I'm understanding uh this completely, but I do understand 524 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:30,400 uh I do understand uh where hail claims 525 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:34,080 come in South Dakota and I just have a hunch we can be blessed that they're not 526 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,800 in the pool. Thank you. 527 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,840 » Thank you, Councilman. Any other discussion, Council? 528 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:48,040 The motion is to approve the policies. All those in favor will say I, opposed 529 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,880 nay. Finance Officer Rob Zine. >> Okay. Coleen? 530 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,960 » I. >> Mormon? 531 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,680 » I. >> Juron's? 532 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,640 » I. >> Peters? 533 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,640 » I. >> Shaddy? 534 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,440 » I. >> Allen? 535 00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:01,520 » I. >> Motion carries. 536 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:06,760 We're on to item 13B as an approval of the resolution 26-35, a resolution 537 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:10,280 approving the city manager's employment agreement. 538 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:15,840 We'll go to City Attorney Lisa Carico to kick us off. 539 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:19,640 » Thank you, Mayor. As you know, the there's it's been a year since our city 540 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:23,680 manager has been employed with the city of Watertown. Pursuant to the employment 541 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,080 agreement, you guys then conducted a performance evaluation. 542 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,960 Um it's my understanding that it was satisfactory. Congratulations. 543 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,680 Um and as a result of the performance 544 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:39,080 evaluation, we have revised pursuant to the 545 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,480 Council's direction, revised the employment agreement. 546 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,160 It should be noted that his probationary period is over. 547 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:50,680 Um and so that part has been taken out of the agreement. And the rough 548 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,560 highlights, which are also stated in the resolution and in the 549 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,120 agreement that you can read for yourselves, 550 00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:00,360 is um an increase to the his salary of 551 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,720 approximately 5%. Um 552 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,920 a contribution to a qualified deferred 553 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:12,320 compensation plan annually at 22,500. 554 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:16,920 And we revised the section on vehicles to provide for 555 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,960 an allowance for use of his personal vehicle. 556 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:24,560 Um and with that, I can stand for any questions, but I believe the agreement 557 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:28,240 is as you as council have directed and is ready for your approval. 558 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,920 » Thank you very much, Attorney Carrico. Council, can I get a motion to approve 559 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,600 the resolution? >> So moved. 560 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:38,040 » Motion made by Councilman Peters. Seconded by Councilman Shetty. We'll 561 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:42,040 open it up for council comments. I think uh Councilman Jirens, you have something 562 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,040 to say? 563 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,880 » Uh thanks, Mayor. Um 564 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,791 really uh didn't 565 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,400 prepare to lead this off other than >> [laughter] 566 00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:02,880 » that um I've made [snorts] public comments in the past whether that to the 567 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:06,720 media or in in during city council that um there are some big differences 568 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:11,560 in who you hire and who you have 569 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:16,800 uh as your city manager and this goes for every city um that is in this form 570 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:22,360 of government um I likely won't make comments in regards 571 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:26,360 to nays and yeas uh to that and comparing ourselves to Sioux Falls and 572 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,800 Rapid City, but I will make uh 573 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:34,400 a quick comment on the amount of dollars, these are 574 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:38,640 factual dollars uh just in 12 months 575 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:44,080 that um the taxpayer in the city Watertown has 576 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:51,280 saved and we've saved this without 577 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,280 I believe even feeling 578 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:58,000 that we've been shorted somewhere. Uh first position was a position that 579 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:03,320 was made up um by the previous administration called 580 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:06,640 an assistant city manager who had a uh 581 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:12,080 payroll and incentives of close to 200,000 582 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:16,360 and I think it's really really good for all of us to know 583 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:23,120 that that position has been absorbed by 584 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:29,720 employees, current employees, and the city manager. That position with 585 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,720 incentives is $200,000. 586 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:38,680 Um yeah, we might need this down the road, but 587 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:44,000 this year zero of that money was spent to the 588 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:48,520 200,000. Second thing, there was a there was a project that came up a few months 589 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,720 ago and I was like, "Wow, most of the time these engineering costs on these 590 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:56,480 highway projects, you just think, 591 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,680 'You know what? That must be the way it goes, you know.' Previous 592 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:05,800 administrations, I don't know if they haven't caught it, but our city manager 593 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:11,480 caught something in the engineering costs on that big project that's going 594 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:17,520 on in Northwest Watertown right now. And in the engineering section alone, there 595 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:24,760 was a $140,000 in savings to the taxpayer and to the 596 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:28,920 budget and to the city of Watertown. And I mean, you start adding the numbers up 597 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:35,880 and you start adding uh things like no vehicle purchases. In 598 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:40,440 fact, a you know, quick story. Um the vehicle that was purchased for just 599 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:44,920 under $50,000 um 600 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:50,440 here just a couple years ago, just under 50,000 because it never became in front 601 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:55,560 of the the council. That vehicle is not being used by the city manager. 602 00:41:52,880 --> 00:42:02,480 That vehicle had better use to be used in the police department. And and I I I 603 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:10,640 admire that. So, the few dollars that our city is spending for a vehicle 604 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:14,760 stipend um is I believe incredibly fair. Um so, you know, you start adding things 605 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,680 up and all of a sudden pennies become dollars and you know the old adage and 606 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:24,920 before we know it dollars becomes a hundred thousand. Um, 607 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:30,240 this this is really really a good night for Watertown. Um, 608 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:35,840 let's not talk about some of the convert controversial things that we dealt with 609 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:41,120 um, with the previous council and and and and it was in regards to travel. 610 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:48,400 Uh, uh, it was so hard because we couldn't make decisions uh, on travel 611 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:52,360 for uh, putting initials behind uh, you know, people's names. And I'm all for 612 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:57,120 initials, but I'm really not that type. I don't care if I have initial behind my 613 00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:03,720 name uh, because I'm not looking for um, all the ACM uh, awards and the the 614 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,960 statues and the and and the trophies and and the room and and pins and plaques. 615 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,440 Um, but the travel budget alone this last 616 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,680 year has had a twenty-five thousand dollar 617 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:20,040 reduction. Uh, uh, 618 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:25,840 things are adding up here and and and I had a a text from a constituent. 619 00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:29,400 Great great questions. He goes, I cannot see why 620 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:33,720 the city manager would need a raise. How does he even know enough after a year? 621 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:44,320 Well, there's a lot that is known just because 622 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:48,280 of the years spent in in dedicating time to understanding what 623 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:53,120 we do for a city. And 624 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:59,560 you know, a comment that I saw on on uh, crazy book uh, uh, from uh, a downtown 625 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:04,720 business person was, you know, what's really interesting is to see 626 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:11,040 that at 7:30 a.m. the vehicles there at city hall and when 627 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:14,360 she leaves downtown area in most nights, that the vehicle's still there. 628 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,480 And and 629 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:21,040 knowing from questions over the last few months 630 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:25,600 that then he leaves 631 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:30,360 the office and spends time uh studying things like you know, the 632 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:35,640 bankruptcy court that's going on up in in Fargo right now over the ruins. And 633 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:40,280 and you know, all of a sudden we get briefed on that. And I mean, we kind of 634 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:46,080 we're we've been kept in the loop. And and there's so so many 635 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:50,320 hidden things that that we've uh we've been uh blessed with. Is it perfect? No. 636 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:54,360 Do we need to be questioning? Absolutely. 637 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,520 We we we we need to continue to work together though 638 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:01,200 uh while we question and while we have 639 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:07,080 dialogue on on things that are you know, important to Watertown. Uh one 640 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:12,000 other thing um previously the city uh was pushed and the council was pushed 641 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:15,480 to approve a $27 million 642 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:20,400 street department facility. Needed? Yes, but not at $27 million. And 643 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:24,600 we kept talking, "Hey, can we get something in that seven to 644 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:31,240 $12 million?" You know what? I I'm I'm here to report 645 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:35,280 that we are working on something that we feel one day will be important. And that 646 00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:38,800 depends on priorities and that meetings coming up uh 647 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:42,920 uh uh uh soon. And and I'm looking forward to that. So, those are a couple 648 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:47,880 of things so far here in this discussion that I wanted to add to uh 649 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:52,400 to what we um what we have in front of us here. Thank you, Mayor. 650 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:57,200 » Thank you, Councilman Jordahl. Council, any other comments? 651 00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,600 Councilman Mormon. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um 652 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:05,440 I appreciate everything that Councilman Jordahl had to say. I will be voting 653 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:08,960 against this. Um and the only reason I'll be voting 654 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:13,320 against it is simply because I believe that the city manager, his raise, 655 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:18,680 compensation, benefits package should be equal to that of what the all the rest 656 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:23,720 of the 200 plus city employees were given. I believe whatever is given to 657 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:26,720 your lowest employ- paid employee should be good enough for your highest paid 658 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,240 employee when it comes to raises and benefits. 659 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:34,480 This has nothing to do and my my decision for voting against it has 660 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:37,560 nothing to do with city manager Stager. Um it's about the position and not the 661 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:41,360 person. I really appreciate the 662 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:46,960 uh great working relationship I have with city manager Stager. Um I'm 663 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:52,280 extremely appreciative that. I enjoy every meeting I have with him and it's 664 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:58,240 uh it's a wonderful experience to sit in his office and discuss 665 00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:01,960 issues pertaining to Watertown and be able to bounce ideas back and forth. So, 666 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:07,240 I I thank him for that and I greatly uh 667 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,400 greatly appreciate what he is doing for our city. 668 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,520 I know a lot of employees, city employees 669 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:19,320 are going to be watching this meeting tonight online or on TV. 670 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:23,920 And I just want to say I remember working for the city when we had a wage 671 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:27,400 study about roughly five or six years ago. 672 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,720 Um and I watched as 673 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,680 you could use any descriptive word you want to use. You could use any 674 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:44,000 descriptive phrase you want to use to describe what happened to morale in the 675 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:51,000 workforce after what I will label as a 100% complete failed disaster of a wage 676 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:55,200 study for anything for anything to help out recruitment and 677 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,360 retention. So, I understand that. I understand 678 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:03,280 where the city employees are coming from. And uh 679 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:08,040 I just want I just want them to know that uh the reason why I can't vote for 680 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:12,760 this is I cannot vote and I never will ever vote and support something that I 681 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:18,360 know will have a negative impact on morale of our city workforce. And I just 682 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:23,040 believe singling out somebody, handing them a lot more money and benefits than 683 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:26,840 anybody else when so many of our city employees could make the exact same 684 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:32,960 argument about how hard they work and how much they donate extra um to the 685 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:38,680 city. So, with that, I'm voting against it. Um you know, what I have to say are 686 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:43,240 my opinions and my thoughts alone. And I appreciate uh the time to be able to 687 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,240 discuss that. 688 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:50,360 » Council. Any other comments? 689 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:54,960 Now, Councilman Durance has something to say. I will just add uh 690 00:48:52,800 --> 00:49:00,240 little bit of something. Just to describe to the public in case 691 00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:03,520 they were curious as to how this process worked. 692 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:08,360 I would like to thank Councilman Allen. He put together a questionnaire that 693 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:13,840 went out to the council where we graded City Manager Steger on quite a few 694 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:18,960 different performance metrics. Then we collated those ratings from all 695 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:24,520 the councilmen and we had a very long, productive 696 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:29,080 conversation with just council members in executive session a few weeks ago. 697 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:33,720 Afterwards, we brought City Manager Steger in. 698 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:39,160 We listened to his requests for what he would like to see revised in his 699 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:45,440 contract going forward. After that, we broke and uh as per our 700 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:49,400 home rule charter, the deputy mayor, Councilman Peters and I entered into 701 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,960 some negotiations with City Manager Steger 702 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:58,840 where there was some give and take, but overall it was very cordial. 703 00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:03,480 And that comes from people sharing a vision for where they want Watertown to 704 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:07,760 go and how they want it to run. And that is without the animosity, 705 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:13,640 without the vitriol, and always keeping your eyes on where 706 00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:19,560 you want to reach and what you want to achieve. 707 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:23,720 The job of a city manager is very difficult. And then after that, we did 708 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:30,200 go back to City Council, showed everybody what the 709 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:34,120 negotiations resulted in, and that is pretty much what you see in the contract 710 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:38,520 before you tonight. The job of a city manager is a very 711 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:42,920 difficult job to fill in the entire country. 712 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,760 The position of a city manager usually gets filled at a much, much higher rate 713 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:51,440 than what Watertown is currently doing it at. 714 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:59,600 What you see here is partly bringing City Manager Steiger into some level of 715 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:03,760 agreement with what other communities pay their city managers, but we are 716 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:08,600 still underneath that amount, which I would like to point out is 717 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:14,640 very impressive from what City Manager Steiger accomplishes because 718 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:21,800 unlike other cities, Watertown actually has as much if not more than most cities 719 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:26,840 in what is going to fall on the city manager's job performance or in job 720 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,560 description. I know City Manager Steiger has called 721 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:34,800 it from A to Z. Start with an airport. Not every 722 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:38,520 community that has a city manager that pays them 723 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:44,120 a similar amount if not more, not everyone has an airport. Very few has an 724 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:48,280 airport or have an airport that is as vital to the local economy that 725 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:56,360 Watertown has. And has the EAS service and has to 726 00:51:53,360 --> 00:52:00,320 analyze everything including what we did tonight, which is hangars and solar 727 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:05,440 panels over over the parking 728 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:09,640 lot and things like that. These are obligations that not every 729 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:15,120 city has to deal with. You go to Z, which is the zoo. 730 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:20,480 Watertown is justifiably very proud of Bramble Park Zoo. 731 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:24,480 And I think only two other cities in South Dakota have a zoo. 732 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:28,080 And that's obviously something we all know how much that is on the budget and 733 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,680 how many people that we hire there and what that does to the community. So 734 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:35,680 these are things that not every community has. 735 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:41,720 Then you have like we have more green space than any other per capita than any 736 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:47,240 other community in South Dakota. That's all on our parks and rec. 737 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:50,880 We have more roads per capita than any city in South Dakota. 738 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,360 You look at a city of like size in Brookings, we have 70 miles more road 739 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,360 that we take care of on a on a given year. 740 00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:03,480 That's all falling on I mean it's a team, but it's obviously on the city 741 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:07,280 manager that is at the top of that. We have a river, we have lakes, we have 742 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:11,920 all sorts of things. So it is a very hard job to fill and I 743 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:18,840 think the community saw that when it took us many, many months 744 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:21,920 of hiring in a process that took applications from across the 745 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:27,400 country. And I'm very happy with the person that 746 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:31,960 we have filling that role right now. Um the scores from the council were very 747 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,840 high, very favorable. 748 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:40,520 And that is what you see reflected in the contract. 749 00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:44,440 So, thank you for Watertown for staying with us in this. 750 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:50,360 I think we've got a very good system of government and we're looking forward to 751 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:55,480 what more we can achieve. Councilman, anybody else here? 752 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,480 Councilman Shady? 753 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,200 » Thank you, Mayor. 754 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,720 So yes, just to kind of help hopefully clarify, help people work through this 755 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:08,680 process in the in the city in our community and and within within 756 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:11,640 employees of our city. You know, we have we have employees here 757 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,880 that are faced with sometimes a career choice. Sometimes it's paid, maybe 758 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:18,360 they'll move from well, maybe from being employed by the 759 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,640 city, they'll go work for another agent another organization, maybe the county, 760 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:25,400 maybe the private sector. And sometimes the 761 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:29,760 motivation is pay because they can maybe make a few extra dollars. And I don't at 762 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,000 all blame them for we got to make choices based off you know, where we're 763 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,440 at in life. Sometimes that's not the choice. Maybe it's not pay. Maybe we're 764 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:41,720 working where we're working because we enjoy the job we're at. There's so many 765 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:45,120 oh, so many things that that that bring us to why we do what we do as a career. 766 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:50,080 When I look at current city manager Steiger, 767 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:54,480 you had mentioned here, Mayor, that he's still underneath the average. 768 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:57,760 I got to believe that with the even having a year under his belt in private 769 00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:01,600 sector, my guess is city manager Steiger could 770 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:05,160 probably for more pay, could probably move 771 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:08,920 somewhere and and that might you know, might motivate 772 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:12,160 somebody. He's under the average, but it doesn't appear like Al really wants to 773 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,520 leave this position, city manager Steiger, 774 00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:19,920 because of pay. And and technically, he's under probably what the national 775 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:25,280 average or even the state average is for city manager potentially. 776 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:28,840 So, what my point on that is is I don't believe he's in this for the 777 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:32,840 money. He's not doing this just to for a paycheck. I believe his heart's in it 778 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,760 and he wants to he wants to serve the community Watertown. So, I just don't I 779 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,560 just don't want people to think that it's it's because of money that that 780 00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:41,800 city man I don't want to speak for city manager Steiger but just getting to know 781 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:45,200 him over the last year it isn't the money that motivates him 782 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,800 and again we're we can compare ourselves and and 783 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,080 some employees will leave their their position for for the county because of 784 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:56,080 they're making a few dollars more working for the county. You know, maybe 785 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:59,600 we need to review maybe not but what motivates us to work somewhere and again 786 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:03,120 that's you know, we're not losing him because of that. 787 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:08,200 Um the other thing is why we came about this particular 788 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:12,360 compensation package was sort of a reset from from the first the first year we 789 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:17,160 were we decided as a council with city manager Steiger on 790 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:20,360 on we kind of were under even more on the lower end of this and and actually 791 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:24,920 city manager Steiger was good with that. He wanted Watertown he wanted a year to 792 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,680 to show Watertown that what he can do what that he's into this and there was 793 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:32,480 it was below again it was well below what we maybe would have offered 794 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:36,960 somebody else. So this year we seen it as a reset to 795 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:40,600 kind of get him to what's what he's what he's deserved to pay and so we all we're 796 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,280 kind of in agreement some of us aren't but as a whole as a team here we're 797 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:47,000 we're I think we all believe that the the job 798 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,920 performance is is there so it's just how to properly compensate. So this is a for 799 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:54,400 those of us who have been here a little bit longer this is a reset 800 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:58,480 um from from the first year. I believe moving forward as councilman 801 00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:01,720 Moorman is saying I'm one too. I'm not for showing partiality. I don't want to 802 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,000 show partiality. Um 803 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:09,800 I don't I personally don't see this as as favor showing favor to somebody. This 804 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,200 is a position we can't compare it I mean I guess you could look at the 805 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,400 department heads. I don't know if all the department heads make all the exact 806 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,440 same amount. They probably is a range there. 807 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:22,000 Um we we probably have um we we 808 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,680 trying to be uniform you're going to have positions that require more 809 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:30,280 responsibility there's going to be more pay. City manager's at the top. 810 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:35,120 And that position does deserve um proper pay and compensation. And so 811 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:39,320 um it's it's one thing if we had two city managers, I guess, working for a 812 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:42,440 city, right? That was one was making x amount dollars more, but we don't He's 813 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:46,400 This is the the one position that deserves to be 814 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:49,720 at a at the it's at the where he's going to be. I believe where 815 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:53,120 we're at is is is fair and just. So, I just wanted to share those couple points 816 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:56,200 there that this is by no means um this could this could create Yeah, as 817 00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:00,480 Councilman Mormon says, there might be some city employees that are uptight. 818 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:06,000 I would say to city employees, hang in there. 819 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:10,280 See continue to to see to try to resist the temptation to grumble and complain 820 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,080 uh because there's there's a a positive future 821 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:17,320 ahead of us, but it takes the right person in the job to lead this. It takes 822 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:21,200 the council. It takes city manager. And then yes, it takes department heads and 823 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:25,320 every single employee. Not one is better than the other. However, there's certain 824 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:30,080 skill sets that we need to have in in those positions and properly so, we got 825 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:32,240 the right skill set at city manager. So. Thank you. 826 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:35,080 » Thank you. Councilman Peters. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um I don't need to 827 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,800 rehash what's been said. I think Councilman Shetty said it very well, and 828 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:42,840 I agree um with him, and I'm in full support of this uh 829 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:46,800 this resolution and to increase the city manager salary, but there's a there's a 830 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:50,600 story, I guess, I want to tell from earlier today. 831 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:54,000 I had a constituent reach out to me um 832 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:58,040 and uh she was very much not in favor of this resolution or approving an increase 833 00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:02,120 in salary for the city manager, not because um she did she doesn't know Alan 834 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,840 um has never worked with him, but because she said her taxes keep going 835 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,080 up. And so, as we had this conversation, I 836 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:12,320 asked her, "Well, what do you mean by taxes?" And she was referring to her 837 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:15,960 property taxes keep going up. And so, I wanted to take a moment here just to 838 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:20,240 explain how we, or at least myself, look at the city budget and our revenues. 839 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,760 A very small percentage in the grand scheme of things actually come from 840 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:30,040 property taxes for the city's revenue. We are funded, I I say, roughly about 70 841 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:35,000 70% by sales tax in the city. And so as I was explaining this to her, 842 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:39,280 she became quite comfortable with uh I think it's 5% we've been increasing in 843 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:43,320 sales tax. Does that sound close? Um since last year. 844 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:47,880 And um as I explained this and explained that the city continues to grow and how 845 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:52,520 it becomes more complex and and you know we're not yes the the property tax 846 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:56,800 revenue is significant and and we certainly need it to operate, but we're 847 00:59:54,560 --> 01:00:01,760 more focused on growing the sales tax. And so as I explained that, she became 848 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:04,920 um more supportive of uh the resolution and more supportive of of ensuring that 849 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:09,280 we're more in line with other communities in the city. So I just want 850 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:12,920 to take a moment to share that that yes we look at everything holistically, but 851 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:17,160 we get sales tax revenue numbers and they have consistently grown month after 852 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,920 month um and we need good leadership to continue that. So thank you. 853 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:25,680 » Thank you. Councilman Allen, did you have anything before I go to Councilman 854 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,680 Jerns? Councilman Jerns. 855 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:35,600 » Uh thank you, Mayor. Um I I believe we should again um talk 856 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:40,040 about um and listen to the concerns of the city employees. The city doesn't go 857 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:43,720 anywhere unless we have employees, unless we have good morale, unless we 858 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:48,520 have uh people that are uh 859 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:52,080 really just excited to get to work. So I'd really like to uh speak to the city 860 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:56,560 employees and ask one question. 861 01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:01,720 Um would anyone 862 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:08,360 ex- let me rephrase that. Is there anyone in the city in on the city staff 863 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:13,480 that would lose their job if the citizens of Watertown decided that 864 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,640 city manager form of government is not for them, 865 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:21,960 strong mayor is. And and ask yourself, would any of you 866 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:26,600 lose your job? And who would lose their job if that got 867 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:31,400 switched in the next few months? 868 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:37,200 Yes, there's only one person who would lose their position, and that's the city 869 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:42,320 manager. So, it really we have to look at this position way different. 870 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:49,120 And and to be honest with you, one of the constituents that reached out to me 871 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:53,680 uh was concerned when I uh explained the amount of 872 01:01:50,640 --> 01:02:00,320 uh solid savings that we've seen as a city over the last year. 873 01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:03,800 Now, this city employee also said, "Hey, I think you should talk about this 874 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:08,040 tonight. I think people need to know this." So, really speaking out about 875 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:12,280 some of these savings was really motivated by a city employee who said, 876 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:16,680 "I really understand this better now." So, uh very good dialogue tonight. We 877 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:21,960 thank you for this. And there's one other thing in some comments that the 878 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:29,240 second constituent brought up. And that is, "Glenn, I'm not aware and and and 879 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:33,960 they read they read very closely to uh what we were voting on tonight. I'm not 880 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:41,000 aware in there, but I've seen on crazy book that there's some incentives that 881 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:44,360 are in uh this this plan." Uh he goes, "Ask 882 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:48,960 if there's any incentives or whoever said that if they can explain 883 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,240 what they mean by incentives. Thank you." 884 01:02:52,400 --> 01:03:01,040 » I'm not exactly sure who said that, but at the very least I think Councilman 885 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,920 » Willis. >> Maybe a question for our city attorney. 886 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:09,600 Uh it's fair to say that there's no incentives in this contract or 887 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:12,440 milestones or anything like that that the city manager has to hit for 888 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,920 additional compensation. >> Correct. There's nothing in there. 889 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,800 » Thank you very much. I think 890 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,480 » Thanks, Mayor. That's all I have. >> Thank you. 891 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:29,520 Allen might be getting uncomfortable hearing all these good things about him. 892 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:32,520 Allen, did you uh City Manager Steiger, did you have anything that you would 893 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:37,000 like to add? >> I I'm sure I could think of something. 894 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:41,480 I've I've just say this has been great. I I will also say this, a couple of you 895 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:45,760 know who who served on the council before, 896 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:49,840 I'm the world's worst negotiator. I I sat down, I'm not going to break 897 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:53,760 confidence of executive session, and I don't care if you pay me anymore. 898 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:58,480 This this is still fun, and it's going to be fun, and we're making 899 01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:02,520 we're making a lot of progress. But, also in terms of the reset, I want 900 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:07,800 to say publicly what I told you gentlemen in executive session as well. 901 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:12,840 This is a reset after the first probationary year. 902 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:17,120 This isn't something we should do every year. 903 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:20,680 Um this is a one-time reset, and as some of you know, 904 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:25,040 I came in with one expectation of salary, 905 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:28,560 and guess what? It was actually $7,000 a year less than what we negotiated in the 906 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:34,080 process. The whole time the executive search firm 907 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:39,080 was mad at me toward the end because I wouldn't ask for more. 908 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:43,920 Remember, gentlemen, I told you guys I want to be treated 909 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:49,160 like any other employee. And so, I was told everybody comes in as 910 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:52,080 step five. Here it is. Less than we had even negotiated a year 911 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,880 ago. So, I appreciate all of your 912 01:04:54,080 --> 01:05:00,960 perspectives, all of your kind words, and I appreciate 913 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:04,520 you taking the time to make this adjustment for 914 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:08,000 for me and the position. Um 915 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:15,120 I'll also tell you this, I appreciate Councilman Mormon a lot. 916 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:19,560 Um he has the public sector service employment record. 917 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:24,360 And so when he talks, I listen. He brings me a perspective I haven't 918 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:28,840 seen elsewhere. And so I I don't want anybody to say, "Hey, Brent and Allen 919 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:32,040 don't get along over this." We we do. 920 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:36,520 I enjoy the perspective he brings. It's just a 921 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:40,320 different perspective than I have. And that's okay. 922 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:47,040 Um, so again, thank you. If there's anything else I 923 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:50,880 can answer for you, I'd be happy to try. >> Thank you, City Manager Steiger. I would 924 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:55,000 like to say thank you. And Watertown is blessed to have you in 925 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:58,160 your position. The motion is to approve this 926 01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:01,480 resolution. All those in favor will say I, opposed nay. Finance Officer Bob 927 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,840 Zein, please call the roll. >> Okay. 928 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,800 Pauline? >> I. 929 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:09,240 » Mormon? >> Nay. 930 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,240 » Jurgens? 931 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,240 » I. >> Peters? 932 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,480 » I. >> Shady? 933 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,560 » I. >> Allen? 934 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:18,800 » I. >> Motion carries. We're on to the city 935 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:21,135 manager's report. >> I wasn't expecting to have to give one. 936 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,480 But >> [laughter] 937 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:26,080 » no. Um, a couple of things. Uh, to start out 938 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:30,320 with, I'm actually going to turn it over to City Engineer Peterson to give an 939 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:34,600 update on some of our major road construction projects. So we will go to 940 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:39,600 the screen if if Nick, you could bring up the website 941 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,600 uh, and the map. 942 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:51,320 » Hi. Thank you. Um, just a kind of a quick update where 943 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:53,800 we're at. Um, projects are kind of wrapping down as towards the end 944 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:57,960 of the season. Um, there's four of them I want to 945 01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:03,200 highlight. The this area in red, this is 5th Avenue. You may mark it there. 946 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:09,440 The other mark in here red is uh, 4th and Highland. 947 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:15,440 Uh, the kind of center area here, blue area, that's the WMU project. And 948 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:19,440 then up here in River, um, yeah, Northridge 949 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:22,880 is is purple. Uh, that's the mill and overlay. Um, 950 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:27,840 the mill and overlay project, that that was the top lift was paved today. I 951 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,760 assume they finished already, but that that should be done today. 952 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:35,440 The this long street kind of here in the 953 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:40,480 middle of the WMU project is Second Street. That will be paved, uh, starting 954 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,920 tomorrow. Um, should be done by the end of the 955 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:50,840 week. Um, so, um, the schools kind of right in this 956 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:55,000 area, so that should be, uh, good. Um, uh, 957 01:07:51,480 --> 01:08:00,600 Fourth and Highland, there was, um, some spongy material. When we we took 958 01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:04,520 that out, so we had we did, uh, what's called a cement treated base. 959 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:07,840 They just finished that up. Did a proof roll 960 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:13,960 and it's hard to rock, so we're going to, uh, start grading that and, um, 961 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:19,640 doing conc- uh, curb and gutter uh, this week and then, um, 962 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:24,600 paving is tentatively scheduled for, uh, September 2nd. 963 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:28,839 And then Fifth Avenue, um, that also is tentatively scheduled for, 964 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:33,759 um, September 2nd. They're are finishing up 965 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,839 grading and curb and gutter on that as well. 966 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,120 Um, I guess 967 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,680 if there's any other questions, I can answer them. 968 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:49,080 » Thank you. Back to you, city manager. >> Thank you for that update. Um, a couple 969 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:56,680 of other projects, uh, we have previously foreshadowed our desire to, 970 01:08:53,440 --> 01:09:02,080 uh, do a a reseal of 14th Avenue North including a restriping plan. Um, just 971 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:05,720 for full transparency in the budget, that was not a project that was budgeted 972 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:11,000 this year. We think we can cover most of it with 973 01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:15,640 the existing street budget. But that is a project we we likely will have to come 974 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:20,520 back with some level of supplement for the budget. We do think it's an 975 01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:26,839 important project for the community to to protect uh the public that utilizes 976 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:30,759 the bike path, to protect the road. Um I don't know if you are all aware, but the 977 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:35,480 shoulder we are driving on as driving lanes was not designed to be the road. 978 01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:39,600 And even the the confusing pavement markings where you see the old markings 979 01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:43,120 and the new ones, from a safety we think that's important, so there likely will 980 01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:47,759 be a supplement. Um 981 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:51,759 like to talk about Elmira Township. Um we have brought forward a memorandum of 982 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:55,560 understanding in the past. Uh the township has made a request that 983 01:09:53,920 --> 01:10:00,120 we take over uh 984 01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:06,640 additional portions of about 1.5 miles of 26th Avenue Northwest. 985 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:14,080 And that is a section that uh the township argues is used quite a bit by 986 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:16,920 city traffic. It's used actually very uh very little 987 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:22,120 um with township traffic. And so I'll just 988 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:26,600 alert you to that. I know that there are some opinions, sometimes some strong 989 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:31,400 opinions on what we take over there. So that's just a heads up if if you do have 990 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:36,480 opinions, I'd be very happy to to hear them. 991 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:40,160 Um school safety speed signs went up starting today, so watch for those 992 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:43,360 signs. Um 993 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:48,520 our next governance policy that we will be working on in advance of the budget 994 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:53,840 year is a policy on our relationships with external organizations. 995 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:57,680 And I say our relationships versus just funding of external organizations 996 01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:02,280 because we need to address more than just who do we fund and how do we fund 997 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:08,120 them. I want to take that governance policy to go as as far as to determine 998 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:11,440 how we appoint people to boards of these organizations. What what are the 999 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:16,440 requirements in the memorandum of understanding? I think that's something 1000 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:21,240 the public would appreciate having and even the outside organizations would 1001 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:25,800 appreciate having that clarity in a governance policy. 1002 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,800 Um 1003 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:35,960 one final thing that I'll throw out this council chamber 1004 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:42,520 and this addition that that all of you approved um is rarely used. 1005 01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:47,880 So we use it twice a month for this meeting and and our citizens have put 1006 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:51,640 millions of dollars into this and and as I 1007 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:56,000 think about government transparency from a perspective of a citizen and I look 1008 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:59,240 around at the other units of government and even 1009 01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:03,960 committees and even our own Watertown Municipal Utilities and how those bodies 1010 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:09,000 don't have the same degree of transparency as we do 1011 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:13,520 here at the city of Watertown just like to make this room available to 1012 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:17,720 all of the other governmental units in the community. We will find a 1013 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:21,240 way to accommodate you. We will ensure that we have the 1014 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:25,360 recording equipment, the broadcast equipment, the investments that have 1015 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:31,000 been made here and we can make Watertown the most transparent city in the state 1016 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:35,560 when it comes to open government and that's the commitment that we can make 1017 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:39,880 here from a staff standpoint. You know, I just just today the state's open 1018 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:44,640 meeting law task force 1019 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:49,640 kicked down the road a requirement to record public meetings 1020 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:54,680 because most bodies don't have the recording capabilities. We've made the 1021 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:58,160 investment here. We have the capability of doing it. You know, there should be 1022 01:12:56,440 --> 01:13:03,160 no reason that a joint planning commission with the county and the city 1023 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:07,240 takes place in an extension building without a recording for the public. And 1024 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:11,560 so, I'd like to just make that available. Uh just contact us here at 1025 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:16,640 City Hall and we can get a schedule together for the for the public. 1026 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:20,320 Um with that, I just uh also like to thank Mr. Simmons for coming forward in 1027 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:24,320 the open forum. Um I've met with Mr. Simmons a couple of 1028 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:28,680 times. He mentioned he's met with with Chief Toomey as well. 1029 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:34,360 Um he's brought forward many of the privacy concerns uh 1030 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:40,520 around some of the stationary cameras um early on in the process that that are 1031 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:45,040 now being talked about uh on a a broader broader basis. 1032 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:48,960 I do feel that we've got great policies in place with within our our local 1033 01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:55,200 police force and would welcome a community conversation to show what we 1034 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:59,400 have. Um I do know that um further conversations are happening as Mr. 1035 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:04,440 Simmons mentioned. So, just want to state publicly we are we are open to 1036 01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:08,440 that and we we thank you for keeping uh keeping us advised of what's happening. 1037 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,800 With that, I'll turn it back to the mayor. 1038 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:19,120 » Thank you. Does any city council member have an 1039 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:22,800 topic for a future discussion they'd like to introduce? 1040 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:27,920 Councilman Moran. >> Uh just a quick topic and for the 1041 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:32,840 public, since we had a discussion about traffic committee earlier tonight, I've 1042 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:37,920 had a few people reach out to me about uh our new football stadium. 1043 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:42,160 And when you're leaving there at night, um there's so many people walking across 1044 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:47,480 3rd Avenue with the stadium lights, when it's dark, 1045 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:51,200 the one street light that is right there at the crosswalk doesn't come on. I'm 1046 01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:57,320 assuming it's probably got a sensor on it. And so, we have hundreds with a 1047 01:14:54,840 --> 01:15:01,080 football game coming up. We have We'll have thousands of people 1048 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:05,560 walking across that road right there in basically pitch black. 1049 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:10,720 And there I'm sure there's three entities involved between the school, 1050 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:16,200 municipal utilities, and the city. I I have no idea who that would fall on. If 1051 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,200 Yeah, if you want to comment. 1052 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:22,480 » Very quickly. Um during the varsity football games for 1053 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:26,320 both GPL and Watertown High School, that road is closed down. They They put in a 1054 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:30,320 permanent request. That doesn't fix soccer and JV football, but for those 1055 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:35,120 thousands of people that you're talking about, they close that road down from I 1056 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:38,440 think it's like 6:00 p.m. until everybody's gone from there. So, no 1057 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,040 vehicle traffic. It's just pedestrian traffic. Okay. 1058 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,760 » Thank you. >> That might be helpful, but we'll check 1059 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:46,160 into the the sensors on the top of the light. 1060 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,400 It's probably something that nobody caught. 1061 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:51,160 » Yeah, I just noticed, you know, leaving the soccer 1062 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:55,760 game Friday night, you know, there's there's 1063 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:59,840 anything from the littlest toddler running across the road to, you know, 1064 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:05,120 grown adults, and they they're walking across the in pitch black. So. 1065 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,120 Thank you. 1066 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:12,200 » Anything else? >> All right, thank you. 1067 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,200 » Councilman Shetty. 1068 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,960 » Just to put it on the record, someone has a birthday tomorrow. 1069 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,502 » Correct? Does the mayor have a birthday tomorrow? 1070 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,522 » someone does. >> [laughter] 1071 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:26,880 » Well, happy birthday, mayor, tomorrow. >> [laughter] 1072 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,880 » Thank you. 1073 01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:33,622 » That's uh something for executive session. 1074 01:16:31,602 --> 01:16:33,622 » [laughter] 1075 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:40,720 » Any other topics? All right. We have no reason to go into 1076 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:44,200 executive session. I will entertain a motion to adjourn. 1077 01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:48,760 Motion made by Councilman Allen, seconded by Councilman Peters. All those 1078 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:51,120 in favor of adjournment, please say I. >> I. 1079 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:55,880 » Any opposed say nay. Motion carries. Good night and God bless 1080 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,880 you, Watertown.