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Sure.
>> Thanks so much.

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» You all would be pleased in the pledge
of allegiance.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.
>> Let's pray. Father, we thank you so much

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for this time together. We pray for your
presence. In your name we pray. Amen.

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» Amen.

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» All right.
As you may have noticed, [clears throat]

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Mr. Hagley is not going to be here today
due to a family emergency. And so, he's

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asked me to step in and chair the
meeting. And so, I would um

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move for
approval of the consent agenda. Any

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Anybody?
>> I'll make a motion to approve it.

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» I'll second.
>> Agenda and minutes approved.

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» All right.
Are you in favor of that?

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» Yes.
>> And you, how would you vote?

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» Yes.
>> All right, yes.

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We okay with
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people okay for us?
>> Yeah.

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» Okay.
All right. If anybody see any agenda at

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all that's signed up,
so we'll move on to the non-agenda

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audience. And I didn't see any
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I'm going to pause.
Does Does anyone know of anything you're

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expecting to come
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All right. So, we'll go to the clerk's
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» Okay.
All right. The first thing is I need I

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was going to ask approval to change the
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10th and September 24th.
Uh we got budget numbers from

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Tallahassee literally this week.
And so, we're going to need to have two

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meetings to pass the budget for next
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So, if we do them September 10th and
September 24th, that will give me enough

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time to kind of put them out on the
website and

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let people comment if they want to.
Um and that would give us

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So, the budget meeting would be on
September 10th.

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And then we would approve the budget on
the 24th.

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So, that's okay with the
>> Uh 24th would be on Thursday, regular

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meeting.
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» We're making the 24th a regular meeting
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» Yes.
>> Okay. It would not normally

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» not normally cuz five there's five
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right?
>> Okay.

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» Yeah.
>> So, move it off of the 17th.

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» Yeah, we'd be moving off of 17th to
24th. Is that right?

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» Yes.
>> Right. Okay, yeah.

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» So, I guess maybe we probably should
separate so that we can be clear that we

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want to have a special budget
um is it called a workshop?

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10th, the budget workshop on the 10th.
Would be the first probably.

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» Right.
>> Let's divide that up into

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» Same time, 5:00.
>> Yes,

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» We need to vote on that as a motion and
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if anyone would like to make a motion to
>> I'll make the motion.

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» We're limited to that.
>> I'll second. [laughter]

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» And a second. All right, Mr. Lambert,
what would you vote?

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» Yes.
>> Mr. Parks?

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» Yes.
>> And the chair would vote yes.

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» So, we'll go with
>> Move that meeting. So, then there's a

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request to reschedule September 17th
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accommodate
uh the necessary time to consider

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that budget and make that a part of our
normal meeting what we're going to call

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our normal meeting on the set on the
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And a motion.
>> I'll make that motion.

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» I'll second.
>> All right.

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» So, would you be in favor of that?
>> Yes.

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» Sorry,
>> Mr. Lambert?

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» Yes.
>> All right. I would vote yes as well.

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So, that's the budget workshop and the
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would be
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» Okay.
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Okay.
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the next thing is I wanted to get the
council's permission to seek bids for

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cemetery grass mowing.
Uh our maintenance worker can just

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cannot keep up with the cemetery. And
prior to fund day, I just went out and

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got someone to do it because it had
gotten so high

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that we and I had had a couple people
calling complaining about it, but it

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takes him a good two full days to pull
the weeds and mow it and do everything,

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clean it up, and needs to be done.
Um so, I'd like to just get some bids

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for it and see if it's something that we
can afford.

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Um and I'm willing to allocate $2,500
for that in the 27

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26-27 budget.
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but I might not be able to get it that
but I wanted to I wanted to put out, you

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know, some some
information for some bids and just see

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what we got. It would be for My idea is
for 6 months, so maybe either May to

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October or April to September just in
the heavy summer months where you

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literally have to do it every single
week. I mean, you just have to keep up

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with it.
And then, um he could take care of it

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during the winter months. So,
I think $2,500 would would do it.

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Um but, we'll see. I just want to get
the bids, kind of see what they are, and

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then be able to put that into the budget
for next year before if I'm able to get

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it as cheap as I think I can get it.
>> So, that's like $100 a month, right?

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$2,500 this
>> Um most of the people who come in here

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to talk to me about it have said I need
it done once a week.

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» I'm just curious.
>> I heard some numbers thrown out that I

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could probably get it done for 400 a
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» Okay.
>> Which is what I was wanting to do.

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» [laughter]
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» But, I want to see bids. I want to I
want somebody to write it in paper and

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then that's what I'll, you know,
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» see it's what we may be able to get it
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» And the bid would be for mowing and
edging or would it would it include

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» Mowing, edging, picking up old dead
flowers, basically just cleaning up the

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cemetery.
>> So, would it include like the mowing

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weeds and
existing flower beds?

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» What we've been doing is just um
weed eating over the top of them. It's

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time-consuming
cuz you have to be real careful with it.

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But some of the ones that are real bad,
we've just been um

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weed eating over the top of them just to
get it knocked down.

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And and that has has kept it looking
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I mean, it's really nice. But
you know, I've had some uh contractors

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come in here and say, "Listen, I can
bring a crew out there and I can have it

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done in 3 hours."
Well, that's a whole lot different than

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spending 2 full days on the with one man
out there trying to

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to get it all done. [clears throat] And
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especially right now, we are having
still having so many water breaks from

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these this road construction and also
the Olin and Core project

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that he is spending all his time right
now just about doing water repairs. It's

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been terrible.
Terrible.

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So, um
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much different than 3 hours of work for
three guys, right?

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And there's a big difference in
the output from that.

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» So, if it
comes back and it's

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crazy high, you know, we can't afford it
in the budget, then we'll just have to

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do what we can do.
That's all there is to it.

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» So, like we don't have it in the budget
now, so we really wouldn't be voting on

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this right now. I think you're just
asking

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» No, just to just give me permission to
seek the bids cuz I want to put out

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there for a formal bid.
>> Okay.

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» And and I'm
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them? That's what I'm curious
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I can just get the pricing in, right?
Yeah, pricing in.

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» If you have local providers, you can
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two of them and just poll
>> do that? That won't hurt the bid

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process?
>> But that's I'm saying you're going to

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hire them. You're just doing it for
informational purposes.

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» Right. Okay.
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once you have an idea if you want to go
through with the process, just let me

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know and we can do it that way.
But there's no harm in in polling the

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local providers.
>> Okay. Do I need the permission of the

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council for that?
>> Uh well, just the direction but you

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don't need to vote.
Would you all be in agreement that that

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would be a good direction for her to go
in for

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» I think so.
>> So, then we can

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» Yeah, based on there's no available
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» Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» Okay.

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Okay.
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I I had one more thing before I want to
get to the other was it

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I'm having so many problems down at the
park, the possum palace.

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I I think I mentioned the last meeting,
I'm not sure that we could actually lock

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to the gate at the park at Well 3
because I'm was having such

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problems with
traffic going in there.

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I put up some camera I had spoken to the
sheriff's office, spoken to a deputy two

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times
and he said, "Lynn, if you want to stop

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them, stand out of your well place, just
lock the gate."

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So, I got Jordan to go down there and we
put a walk through gate and then we

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locked the drive through gate.
I mean, I'm getting no pictures on my

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cameras at all
and um

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but the driving traffic down there was
terrible. I mean, terrible. Worse the

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concession stand, all the windows have
been broken out of it. Doors been

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knocked in. We went and fixed it.
What no time

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doors knocked in again, windows broken
again. There's nothing in there. I don't

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know why they're
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Air?
>> On Well 3.

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» You're better off leaving the door open
so they know there's nothing in there.

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At least they won't break the door.
>> Well, that's true. That's what I should

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have done the first time.
>> That's what they're doing in California.

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People are leaving their windows down in
their car so they can see that there's

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nothing in the car. That way they don't
bust the windows.

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» Right.
>> It's crazy.

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» It is crazy. Um
the skate park and the little park area

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for the kids, you can still walk through
and there are people still coming

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through there with the other day Jordan
was up there and he said there was a

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family that walked through and their
kids played in the park area. And um

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haven't had any complaints so far. I
thought I'd just lock it and see what

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happens. But the one up at the Possum
Palace

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the bathroom area is the problem I the
problem I'm having. And so I wanted to

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see about how the council felt about me
closing the park

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and and locking the bathrooms at night.
I don't know if the vandalism is

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happening at night
but they pulled the cabinets off the

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wall, they busted the locks off.
Literally all I had in it was cleaning

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supplies. They took every cleaning
supply I had.

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So
I think we're around about enough. We're

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going to start Jordan's going to check
it one time during the day. I'm going to

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check it one time and Lindsay's going to
check it one time during the day

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to see if there's any daytime traffic.
But I think because I'm seeing people on

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the camera coming in there like dusky
dark and dark

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that I just want to see about locking it
and just seeing what happens.

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I don't really want to lock the gate.
I want to lock the bathrooms.

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Is what I want to lock.
And I'm thinking maybe 7:00 during the

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summer cuz I really want the kids to be
able to still come to the splash pad. I

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mean
you know, I hate I hate to lock it but

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the mess we had clean up this week
nobody should have to clean that up. No

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employee should have to go out there and
clean up what I had to clean up in that

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» [laughter]
>> bathroom. It was bad.

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And this is probably the third or fourth
time I've had to go do that.

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» I personally don't see a problem with
it. I think I mean

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why would it need to be open after dark
anyway?

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» Yeah, well that is what I was thinking.
I'm like so you know, if you're going to

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vandalize now you don't have to do it
during the day with people. I know that

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there's two homeless people that are
coming out there and bathing

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uh cuz I walked in there with one of
them before.

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I don't really have a problem with that
she's not making a mess.

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I don't really know if that's what the
park bathrooms for but she hasn't made a

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mess.
She's homeless and she just come a

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couple of days a week to bathe in there.
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but the vandalism is is just crazy and I
don't understand it but

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» But you're not catching anybody on the
camera who's doing that.

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» Well, I see who's walking in there and I
spoken to the the

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I got
spoke to a deputy

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and he said that basically unless I see
him in the act

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that I can't do anything but I can't put
the cameras in the bathroom.

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So I see who's walking in and out but I
don't have any proof that they're

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Yeah.
They're who's doing it.

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I mean I was tell Mr. Park that the day
that we caught three kids they didn't

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know Jordan was there and they were they
had apples and tomatoes and um pears

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and were throwing them at the concession
stand windows.

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And they were just splattered and they
just fall down.

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And he ran them down made them go clean
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on the lawn mower.
He ran down on the lawn mower

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and got them to clean it up. He's like
"Hey you

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» The blade was disengaged.
>> Because he's like you know y'all go

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clean that up. I'm out here in 90
something degree weather mowing grass.

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» Yeah.
>> Trying to keep this place looking nice

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and y'all are vandalizing.
So I I think it I want to believe it's

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just kids. That's what I want to believe
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I want to try to start locking it at
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and have time during the day that maybe
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But if they keep on doing it
then we may just have to shut the

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bathrooms although I don't want to do
that. I don't want to everybody to

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suffer.
>> Yeah.

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» people just want to be you know
knuckleheads.

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» The good thing is our team comes in
early in the mornings on most weekdays

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so we can get it up and early in time
for people to use it.

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» Right.
>> I I'm I'm

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I agree with you, but I'm concerned
about basically what that means is

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you'll have to lock them up.
>> Sure.

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I'll lock them at night. I'll come and
lock them at night.

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» I hate that for you,
but I appreciate you.

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» Yeah, I mean
well, I mean, you know

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listen, rather than have to clean up
what I had to clean up

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I'll come and lock them at night.
>> We'll lock them up at night, but we'll

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lock them up at night, but we'll find
somebody to lock them in the next

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morning.
>> All right.

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» Yeah.
>> I I I want to try it just see what

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happens, but I just I just want to let
y'all your feelings about it in case

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somebody calls you and like, why are the
bathrooms locked, you know?

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Why don't you even get here at 8:00 at
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» Well, I mean, you don't need to be up
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» period. I mean, who's going to take
their kids to the park that late at

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night anyway?
There's a lot of teenagers just walking

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around. I see them on the camera going
in and out of there.

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A lot of teenagers that are
unsupervised.

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They've got these bathrooms bad enough,
they can go to the dollar store.

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Or go home.
>> Right.

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» [clears throat]
>> So, there is no park policy right? So,

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we don't really need to
have any votes on that cuz you

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» Yeah.
>> given any

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» Yeah, I haven't been to a head change
since we haven't Right. I just wanted to

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get the feel of the council to lock it
and see what happens.

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» Yeah, this
>> I'm thinking 7:00 in the summer.

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And then of course in the winter it'll
get dark earlier. I'm just going to do

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it as soon as it gets kind of dusky dark
and I'll just lock them up and see what

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happens.
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» It's a shame you got to do that, but I
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yeah,
it's our

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» Well, they actually and they're stealing
the toilet paper.

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Can't have it all rolled out there at
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cuz they'll take it. You have two rolls.

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» [laughter]
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» I go there pretty often anyway.
But I think with the three of us doing

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at least four days a week,
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I'll I'll take it I like it open in the
back up on the weekends. We'll just see

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what happens.
>> Um Mr. Parks, where are you?

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» Oh, you can tell us today if
>> Okay.

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» And then the next thing is the
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Let me see. The project updates. So,
we've decided that we're going to have

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to get um at least a 3-month extension
on the community center over here. We

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had some leftover money and they
approved for us buying a generator.

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And they did approve the digital sign.
And so, there's a little bit of lead

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time on the ordering. So, though
you know, there was not going to be any

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more extensions on this COVID money,
they did we did get the permission to

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get an extension on that. So, we're
working on that right now. Because

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remember that that project had to be
ended by September 7th.

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And there's no way we're going to meet
that deadline.

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Uh Cora and Oy, they told me yesterday
they're at 85% complete,

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which is great.
Um it's almost the end of that project.

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Um let's see what else.
The Possum Palace Recreation Grant. I

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did get with the bank about That's the
$50,000 grant which we have to pay it

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all up front and then we get reimbursed
the whole 50,000. They wanted me to wait

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until we get our audit finished for last
year's any of the awesome audit

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information. So, as soon as we get that
done, which it is, they are working on

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now, I'll go back and finish that.
Rogers Park, we have gotten the

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environmental assessment approved,
finally.

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Um tomorrow I will
publish the documents in the local

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newspaper. It has to sit 15 days.
Then you have to um sign some sign it

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and it it's got to sit another 15 days.
And then we'll finally be able to go out

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for construction on that project.
Um the Possum Palace updates, we did

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have the fans for Fun Day if any of
y'all came.

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» Those was nice.
>> amazing. Our fans.

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» You got to chill.
>> I don't know about that, but they were

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nice.
>> They were amazing. Um so, we did have a

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visit by the building inspector
who said that we're going to have to um

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sprinkle the building if we put the
doors on it.

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So, we met with the architect and the
contractor and um

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they're going to go back and make some
changes to the

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uh
the drawings and include the sprinkler

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system. They said that the occupancy
load for that building was about 1,800.

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If you put chair to chair to chair to
chair, you could fit 1,800 people under

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that pavilion.
I didn't think that, but they said it's

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done by methodology that I didn't really
understand, so

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» That means some of you are going to sit
in the corner and not see the stage.

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» Because of that occupancy load, he said
we're going to have to sprinkle the

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building.
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that course that's certainly going to
cut down on some of our construction

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money, but um
we're redoing the draw we're doing the

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redoing the plans and specs to include
that. In the meantime, I got permission

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from the Department of Commerce to
continue on with the renovation. So, the

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renovation is going to continue to go as
we're waiting on that.

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I think that's the only other ones that
I have, but most of them are going to be

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finished up in very quickly.
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and then the budget, like I said, we're
I literally got the budget numbers

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yesterday or the day before. I've got
the water budget already balanced. Um I

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was waiting on those numbers to balance
out the general budget, so I should have

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those done next week.

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And I think that's all I have.

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» Does anybody have any questions on
projects or questions you might want

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Clark to take forward?

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No.

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Anything else
from the clerk?

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Uh
so Mr. Clark, do you have anything you

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wanted
>> No, I don't have anything.

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» to the council tonight?
Mr. Rymer?

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» I don't.
What's your report look like?

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» It does.
>> Yeah, we're still working hard on it.

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» Then I you had mentioned a little bit I
just wanted to ask for a clarification

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if you've taken any action or if we just
because of the situation is no action.

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But the the situation with the property
with uh

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turning over
that right away I'm going to take to the

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street
right away.

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» The Smith property still have the
property speaking of that.

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» Um I assume everybody agrees that
we lay off of that after we talked last

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month.
>> I don't think we're necessarily

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Is Is everyone Can you share with us
what the deal is so we can

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» Yes,
yes, so basically what I got some

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description of the land and looked at
the original plat of Wallsall

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for the open road and
sent the stuff to Jeff and he and I

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spoke for just a minute. It you know, it
appears

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maybe that road is the only access to
the Chick property

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which sits behind like if you go to the
open road at the very end of the road

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the prop the parcel behind it is owned
by a family called the Chicks.

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It looks like that may be the only
access there. And so because of that

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Jeff recommended and I that I ask the
Smiths about maybe getting

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um
an uh

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» easement
>> a

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» what?
>> Well,

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» we talked about an easement across it.
I'm trying to find the email that we

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had.
>> Yeah, we Well, we talked a survey. If we

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get a survey, we see exactly where
everything's at. And so, I did talk to

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Tommy Smith about that. I said, "Listen,
here's the deal. It may stop the ingress

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and
egress and

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Ingress and egress, right?
>> He was going to have to get these. I

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mean, the That was the problem.
>> Yeah, and I told him I said, but I said

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the the town is not willing to put out
the money. So, I'm going to put it back

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in I put it back in Tommy's court. If
they want it, they was going to need

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they would need to get it surveyed so
that we could look at it and make sure

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that that did not stop entrance to that
property.

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It kind of looks like it on the property
appraiser's map, but Jeff and I were not

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100% sure.
>> Well, the in the it was but it was the

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it was a diagram that we had of the
beyond the we had that one area

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rendering that we could Yeah, where the
exact lines were and that was the I keep

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saying easement all I'm going to call it
easement on surveys that he didn't want

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to pay for cuz it would have incurred to
his benefit, not ours and not yours or

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others. So,
>> Yeah.

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» And the survey would have been for
$2,500.

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Probably none of them would pay for it
even though it's not out in the country,

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you know, not a huge parcel.
>> Yeah. So, it's sitting in his court now.

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Went back to him.
>> Sure.

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» Because, you know,
as Jeff and I were speaking, one of the

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things I had talked about is that he he
is wanting to get this to be able to

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sell the property.
So, cuz he wants to sell that piece, he

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wants to include that. So, it really
wouldn't be fair to the town for us to

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spend money on a
survey,

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you know, to help him get land that
they're going to sell.

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So, it's back in his court now.
>> And I just want to make sure that when

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you were about it and we're there to be
some questions asked. I just didn't have

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dialogue with that D&T that were willing
to look at the right-of-way issue and

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all of things aired out up there
chipping

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but then we found [clears throat] out
some more information that we dug up.

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Okay.
>> And I'm not confident it

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it's the only way in and out but I felt
like on the side of being very careful

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that we should do that.
>> That sounds good. So it sounds like we

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put the burden proof on him to come back
to us with a

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» Right.
>> viable solution rather than us guessing

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and looking at Google map surveys.
>> Right.

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Yeah, so that's where that's at.

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» Then can question about the aspect of
somebody talking.

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I wasn't sure if everybody was aware of
that. I just heard it in passing myself

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so.

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That was the only thing I had. Jeff, did
you have anything else?

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» No, sir.
>> No. Do you have any questions for me

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about anything else?
>> I don't think so.

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» [clears throat]
>> Roger did mention to me he didn't want

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to put on the agenda but he might want
to readdress it was is the cemetery

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resolution that we passed.
Um he he had a family come and question

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him on that.
And um

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they had already come and talked to me
about it and I explained to them why we

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did that. It's family has a lot of
parcels.

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And so he said at some point he may want
to address that but

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» They already had a lot of parcels in
there and they didn't agree with the

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resolution.
>> Well, they have a lot of parcels and

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half of them have names on them.
The ownership has been established.

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There's [clears throat] more
one of the family wants to

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identify ownership of
but I told him that those were going to

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have to be bought for $300 a piece.
And

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so he didn't he didn't want that.
So

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You know, one of the things I talked to
him about is that you know, there's

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upkeep of the cemetery.
And the town takes it out of the general

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revenue. If we don't somehow
sell some of these, you know, this would

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pay for our $2,500
or $3,000 what it is to get them mowing.

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And uh
>> In the grand scheme of things, if you

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look at private cemeteries and you're
dealing with the bigger areas, it's way

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more expensive than that. It's really a
deal.

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At twice the price. I hate that.
>> Yeah, so

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» That's a deal at 300 a plot.
>> I think so, too.

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» Yes, sir.
That's I think it's a little underrated

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myself. Yes, sir.
>> Yeah, but um so, he just wanted me to

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throw that out there. He may want to
readdress that again, so

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but he didn't want to do it tonight.
That's all.

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00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,880
» So, isn't it Is it Is it actually the
case that

430
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:39,560
of the ground that
has been deeded we don't own that?

431
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,320
» Correct. If it's been deeded, yes, sir.
>> Yeah. Of the deeds that have been

432
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,880
deeded,
it's just curious that

433
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,040
» We don't own them, is that what you're
saying?

434
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,760
» Correct.
>> Yes.

435
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,560
» It It's just And And again,
I'm not proposing we don't make any

436
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:55,440
changes. I'm just making observations
and comments that it is curious that we

437
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,160
continue to bear the maintenance burden
of property that we don't own.

438
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,080
» Yes, sir.
>> That's all I'm saying.

439
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,120
» And eventually,
it's going to wear out.

440
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,480
» I don't know.
>> You know, I don't know what year, what

441
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:09,680
council is going to look at this and say
this is where it is at. But, I'm glad we

442
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,960
can continue to do what we can for now.
>> And I think last year I don't know if we

443
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:17,240
were looking at the budget numbers. Last
year, we sold $3,000 worth of lots.

444
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:21,720
I mean, our plots. So, that would have
paid our maintenance budget right there.

445
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,200
If we can get it for 2,500 others a
year.

446
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,560
And
you know, also

447
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:32,840
» So, like up there where my mom and dad
is buried at, they send out letters to

448
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:37,400
all the families asking for,
you know, um

449
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:45,080
monetary donation or
amount to help offset the cost of

450
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:47,640
grass mowing and that kind of thing.
>> Do they collect that?

451
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,800
» I mean,
I don't know.

452
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,360
» My experience is that they most
associations collect some, but none

453
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,280
collect all. Like
it's not a necessary participation. But

454
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,040
what little bit you get seems to be some
people are giving it.

455
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,680
» And I mean that might be some
>> I mean can we do that though? That would

456
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,120
be I think that would tend to be kind of
a little bit of a

457
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,960
» If you could ever pass it off and make
it a private

458
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,320
» That's what I'm getting off the city's
books, that'd be great. They did that at

459
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,040
the old Ribs Cemetery which is up the
road now on Highway 69. I always knew

460
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,400
about it cuz my father-in-law goes up
there and

461
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:24,120
tends to it cuz they have a lot of
family there and friends of the family.

462
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,680
He'll be 80 in November.
But they had to

463
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:29,920
have to pass it off and get it out of
the city's name many many years ago. I

464
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,800
don't know how
they figured out how they did that.

465
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:35,080
» Well, then you give it to a company or
somebody

466
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,720
» Probably
>> a a private the surrounding land owner.

467
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,600
They created some kind of like a
cemetery trust as I understand it. I've

468
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,120
never heard of it before, but it almost
sounded like it operates like an HOA.

469
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,680
» Uh-huh.
>> Obviously with a little tiny dues.

470
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,960
» Yeah.
>> For everybody that want to have some

471
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,440
upkeep, but they
>> They didn't require them

472
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,440
» to
>> They paid

473
00:27:53,640 --> 00:28:00,280
» You know, I've got to have a mission to
>> Yeah, again that's not something I would

474
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:03,200
want to take on, but I I just fear that
eventually a council

475
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,440
say
We we just

476
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,240
» Yep.
>> As as the complexity grows and the

477
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,539
disgruntledness begins to get more
complex

478
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:18,320
we might not be able to make everybody
[clears throat] happy with everybody.

479
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:23,320
But again, future.
Anything else for the general

480
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,320
benefit of the council?

481
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,600
Yeah.
Uh do we have to do

482
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:32,320
motion to adjourn or is that just
Hoping to get out of

483
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,360
» He does it sometimes.
>> It's what we do. It's it's

484
00:28:34,154 --> 00:28:38,400
» [clears throat]
>> I'll make a motion to adjourn.

485
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,000
» I'll second.
>> Is there any body opposed to that

486
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,960
motion?
We'll do a roll call.

487
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,720
All right then, we'll make ourselves at
home.

488
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,920
» Thank you very much.
>> Accept that gavel one more