1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:07,120 Okay, it's 4:30, so we'll 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:09,920 call the public safety committee meeting 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:13,599 to order. Roll calls that everyone is 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:15,200 present here. Um, you had a agenda sent 5 00:00:13,599 --> 00:00:17,440 to you. Is there any additions or 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,240 corrections to that agenda? Not. I'd 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:23,519 look for a motion to approve. Motion 8 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:26,400 moving by Jay. Is there a second? 9 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:28,000 » Second by George. Uh, any discussion? 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,599 All in favor? 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:35,040 » Opposed? All right. So, that passes. Um, 12 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:38,640 and you also sent the minutes of the 812 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:40,239 2026 regular meeting. Um, is there any 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,960 additions or corrections to those 15 00:00:40,239 --> 00:00:45,840 minutes? If not, I look for a motion to 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:49,120 approve those. Motion to approve. Okay. 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:52,640 Motion by Peterson. Second. 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:55,760 » Second by Irvin. Uh, any discussion? 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:58,079 All in favor? I opposed. All right. So, 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:02,039 that passes as well. Public comments. Is 21 00:00:58,079 --> 00:01:02,039 there any public comments today? 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:08,240 » Okay, seeing none, we'll move into the 23 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:11,040 fire services region. 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,760 Not too much to uh bring up with fire 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,640 departments. Uh fire has been a little 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:19,840 slower, but uh EMS has definitely been 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,320 very busy um with that, but uh nothing 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:26,040 for fire that I have unless you guys 29 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:26,040 have any questions, but 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:33,080 » Okay. Thank you. All right. Uh medical 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,080 examiner. 32 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,079 » Hello everyone. Can you hear me? Okay. 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,320 Okay. So, [clears throat] I'll give you 34 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:42,640 the individual county deaths. Um for 35 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:45,360 Green Lake, we had 22 total deaths. 18 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,360 of those were ME cases. 16 natural, one 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,159 accident, one currently pending autopsy 38 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,560 or toxicology. For Marquette, we had 18 39 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:54,399 total deaths, 15 were ME cases, 13 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,040 natural, one accident, one pending 41 00:01:54,399 --> 00:01:59,680 autopsy or toxicology. And for Wer, we 42 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,520 had 21 total deaths. 17 were ME cases, 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,600 16 natural, one accident, and we had no 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,799 autopsies. Total deaths for all counties 45 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,640 were 61 for the month of August. Um, you 46 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:10,959 will see in the packet that I gave you, 47 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:13,520 there is the year-to-ate budget report 48 00:02:10,959 --> 00:02:16,400 for the ME's office. Um, there are 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,920 different um and newly created accounts 50 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,599 for each county. So, we can 51 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:21,360 differentiate now for death 52 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:24,160 certificates, cremation permits, and 53 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,840 other fees. So you'll see that change um 54 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,680 for this year because those were just 55 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,760 created this year. So we're moving we're 56 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,200 doing journal entries to move those into 57 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:35,280 the appropriate accounts. You will see 58 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:37,120 that. Next you will have the proposed um 59 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,959 2027 60 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,959 um budget that um we're looking at um 61 00:02:40,959 --> 00:02:45,760 and asking for. And you'll see those 62 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:47,599 accounts again divvied up within there 63 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,440 just to kind of show you what we're 64 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:53,440 looking at for each individual county 65 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:57,800 and what the picture is for that. 66 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,800 Do you have any questions for those? 67 00:02:58,161 --> 00:03:01,920 [clears throat] 68 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:04,319 » I just question. So, am I seeing this 69 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:05,920 right? You're looking at a 70 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:08,000 $162,000 71 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:10,159 increase in revenue. 72 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,800 » So, we did acquire the contract with 73 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:15,200 Green Lake County this year and that is 74 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,720 for only six months, but we're also 75 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,239 increasing the revenues because of the 76 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,319 death certificates and cremation permits 77 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:21,760 we are signing. So there is incre an 78 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:24,159 increase in that plus the innovation 79 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,720 grant that we did receive. So that is 80 00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:27,720 also in there. 81 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,640 And then for um Marquette County, they 82 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:34,799 have agreed to renew. They want to renew 83 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,400 for the next three years. The innovation 84 00:03:34,799 --> 00:03:38,159 grant actually just opened up today. I 85 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,040 saw the email come through due October 86 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:43,360 1st. I'm hoping that we can um apply for 87 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,959 that for Marquette County to also 88 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,640 continue to receive the safety 89 00:03:44,959 --> 00:03:49,280 innovation grant for that county as 90 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,360 well. Yeah, and if I can just clarify on 91 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,920 that, it actually opens up October 1st. 92 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,080 There'll be a round due December 31st 93 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,680 for a grant payment in early 2027. 94 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,239 There'll also be another round due March 95 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,159 31st for a grant in June next year. So, 96 00:04:00,239 --> 00:04:03,519 we are working with Marquette County to 97 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:07,439 structure that contract so that it's 98 00:04:03,519 --> 00:04:10,319 eligible as as well. 99 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:12,799 » Um, we're still continuing to um recruit 100 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:15,360 applicants for a part-time deputy. Um, 101 00:04:12,799 --> 00:04:17,600 we have had some um they just have not 102 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,519 been qualified. A lot of the recipients 103 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,680 that we are getting are out of state and 104 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:23,440 not realizing really what the pay is 105 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:27,120 because the part-time deputy is paid 106 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,400 that 150 per hour, a$150 per hour while 107 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,400 on call, but then when they get called 108 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:34,000 out, it's a different wage on the wage 109 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,919 scale. So, um I am continuing to reach 110 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,199 out to people and see if there's anybody 111 00:04:35,919 --> 00:04:39,840 available, but if you guys know of 112 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:43,120 anybody, please do send them our way. Um 113 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:44,560 we have um Lindsay Folstrom in our 114 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,800 office as the administrative assistant. 115 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,880 She's working out wonderfully. Um, she's 116 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,479 a quick learner. She's a go-getter. Um, 117 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,560 she runs our office like a very tight 118 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:54,080 ship right now. So, she's doing very 119 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,960 well and we are very appreciative of 120 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,880 her. August 26, I did participate in the 121 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,880 Green Lake County mass casualty 122 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,280 incident. They asked me to come in the 123 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,040 afternoon for the death notifications, 124 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:06,560 but they actually couldn't find 125 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,960 volunteers. It was very difficult for 126 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,880 them to grab volunteers that wanted to 127 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,039 actually receive a death notification. 128 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Nobody wants to receive that. But I did 129 00:05:13,039 --> 00:05:18,160 actually sit down and have a great 130 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:20,960 conversation with u many of their HHS 131 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,960 workers um their um therapists, 132 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,800 behavioral therapists and such. Plus, we 133 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,960 had mansior gun because this did take 134 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,320 place up at All Saints in Berlin. And we 135 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,320 had a great conversation of what does 136 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,320 this look like? What do we need here? 137 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,880 What are the resources we need? because 138 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,320 I likely will not be there to re to 139 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,080 provide that death notification to 140 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,280 families because I'm going to be out in 141 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,280 the field making sure that things are 142 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:42,720 done accurately and then my deputies 143 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:44,240 will be out there with me and then other 144 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:48,720 deputies will be running business as 145 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:50,400 usual. Okay. Um and then the last sheet 146 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,440 in your packet you'll see it's called 147 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,199 the memory rock garden. 148 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,800 Um, the safety innovation grant provided 149 00:05:55,199 --> 00:06:00,000 us some funds that Megan allowed me to 150 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:02,000 use to redo those large 35- foot 151 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,639 planters out front the old highway shop, 152 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,720 now our office. We have completed them. 153 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:09,840 It was a lot of work. My staff and I did 154 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:12,560 this hauling rock and planting trees. 155 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:15,600 Bloxs garden or Bloxs Farm had provided 156 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:18,800 the landscaping materials and stuff like 157 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,759 that. They um waved the delivery fee, so 158 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,600 that's why you see their Bloxs Farm logo 159 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:25,840 on the bottom here. This is what is 160 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,759 going to be in a plaqueard outside in 161 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:32,479 the garden for families to come up and 162 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:34,720 see. We have these um pre-made bags for 163 00:06:32,479 --> 00:06:36,720 families to take paint these rocks and 164 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,479 bring them back into the garden at 165 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,759 night. We did I did purchase solar 166 00:06:38,479 --> 00:06:41,120 lights. So, we have soil lights that 167 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:42,960 light up the garden and you'll be able 168 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,360 to see that as well. So, I welcome you 169 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,639 to come and see our little rock garden 170 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,560 for people um to come and and do this. 171 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:52,240 And I think it's a great effort on 172 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,160 behalf of the medical examiner's office 173 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,800 to connect and continue to connect with 174 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,759 communities and families that we serve. 175 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Um ATSF will be putting their flag up 176 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:04,960 there as well and we work with them for 177 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,199 recovery of donation like tissue and 178 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,560 organ donation as well. So their flag 179 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:10,960 will be up there. The medical examiner's 180 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,720 flag is up there as well. 181 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,360 » Do you have any questions? 182 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,280 » Do you have any questions? 183 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,039 How is it I mean how's it going like 184 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,319 logistically and stuff now because 185 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:24,880 that's 60 deaths that's two per day 186 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:28,720 basically but what uh how is that 187 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,319 working for you for I mean I'm sure you 188 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,560 don't I don't know if you have to go to 189 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:33,440 each one or or or how you handle that 190 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,759 but 191 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,599 » So no we don't need to go to each one a 192 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:39,759 lot of the deaths that we do receive are 193 00:07:37,599 --> 00:07:41,199 hospice tests and they become medical 194 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:44,080 examiner cases when they become a 195 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:46,240 cremation um if they're signed if there 196 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,240 is no injury and they're being buried, 197 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,080 we don't get involved. We recommend the 198 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,400 physician take care of that death. 199 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,479 » Um, so the 61 deaths are the ones that 200 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:58,400 we actually physically touched. I don't 201 00:07:54,479 --> 00:08:00,960 know how many of those were hospice. Um, 202 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,280 but I would say at least 50% if not 203 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:06,080 more. Um, and that's between all three 204 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:09,039 counties. Um, it's working out well with 205 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,960 my deputies. they are enjoying the extra 206 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:13,759 work because obviously with only 207 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:16,319 Marquette and Wera we did have the 208 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:18,319 deaths but we didn't have as many so 209 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:20,319 they were you know we had to you know 210 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:23,280 create things for them to do and and 211 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:25,919 busy their time which now we have all 212 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,360 that plus the desk and they are knowing 213 00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:28,400 that they are going to get out there and 214 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,479 they're going to learn they're going to 215 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,200 put their techniques and whatever they 216 00:08:30,479 --> 00:08:35,360 have learned in school or for me to use 217 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,800 so they are very I have a very happy 218 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,279 staff right 219 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,000 So that's good to know. 220 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:41,760 » Yes. 221 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,240 » Good. 222 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,279 Thank you. 223 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:52,600 » Okay. Um there's no unfinished business 224 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:52,600 or new business. So we'll move then. 225 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:58,160 » So I'll just provide a few quick updates 226 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:01,920 here um administratively. So I did email 227 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:03,839 out the call volume uh for through the 228 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,440 month of August. So Rob uh the chief 229 00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:08,240 from Marquette County has been assisting 230 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,160 with running those reports for us. Um I 231 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,640 did have a sit down meeting with our 232 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:15,360 captains and just kind of ensured that 233 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,120 things are delegated and um assisting 234 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,240 where needed to ensure daily operations 235 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:22,000 are continuing there. Uh we do have a 236 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,760 new deputy chief that's coming on board. 237 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Her name is Jessica Montgomery. She is 238 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,800 starting at the end of this month 239 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:32,080 September 28th. Um so we're very excited 240 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,680 to bring her on board. Um, and we are 241 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,160 continuing uh conversations with 242 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:37,519 Marquette County. Um, I did, as 243 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,600 requested from the last meeting, send 244 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:41,920 out the staff survey to kind of gauge 245 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,000 staff's input on a potential um, 246 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,080 consolidation with Marquette. Marquette 247 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,080 County also sent out the same survey. 248 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,000 So, we're receiving responses back from 249 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,440 that through this Friday. Um, so we'll 250 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,399 get that information to you once that 251 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:56,800 survey um, is completed. Um, and we do 252 00:09:54,399 --> 00:10:00,160 have Rob from Marquette County online 253 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:03,600 uh, today as well. And then um under new 254 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:07,839 business we'll be looking at um cons 255 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,920 excuse me the consultant um for the EMS 256 00:10:07,839 --> 00:10:13,440 consolidation. 257 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,600 » Okay, sounds good. Any any questions on 258 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,440 that? All right, so there is no 259 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,519 unfinished business. Let's move into new 260 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,160 business. Uh discussion possible action 261 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:24,000 on EMS consultant for evaluation of 262 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:29,519 consolidation. 263 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Um so Dana um is online with us as well 264 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:33,839 from strategic management and 265 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,839 consulting. Um so Dana has put a 266 00:10:33,839 --> 00:10:39,519 proposal together for us on what it 267 00:10:35,839 --> 00:10:42,000 would look like to uh do an evaluation 268 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:44,000 of the pros and cons for doing a 269 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:47,360 consolidated service with Marquette 270 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:49,600 County. I emailed out the proposal um 271 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,519 earlier this morning. Um, so I'm not 272 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:55,200 sure if you've had a a chance to review 273 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:57,519 that. Um, but Dana, would you want to 274 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,600 chime in on just kind of a brief 275 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:02,720 overview of what we'd be looking at for 276 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,480 consulting services with you? 277 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,279 » Uh, good afternoon. Uh, thanks for the 278 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,519 opportunity to speak to the group. Um, 279 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:13,360 my name is Dana Seckler and I've been 280 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:17,360 involved in uh, EMS for about 35 years 281 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:21,200 now. Uh the other person that will be um 282 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:23,440 coming in to assist is Dan Williams. Uh 283 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,640 some of you may know uh Dan. He's been 284 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:30,560 involved in EMS and fire for closer to 285 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:33,040 45 or 46 years now. Um both of us have 286 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:36,240 the opportunity to work at the state uh 287 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,560 EMS office as part of the regulatory 288 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,440 agency. So we're certainly well aware of 289 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:45,200 a lot of the nuances associated uh with 290 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,753 EMS and running services. Um Dan was 291 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,079 also the service director that 292 00:11:46,753 --> 00:11:51,519 [clears throat] helped to start up uh 293 00:11:48,079 --> 00:11:53,600 Door County uh many many many years ago. 294 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:55,120 Uh so he's got uh quite a bit of 295 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,279 experience with that as well. So between 296 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,720 the two of us, we would be looking at uh 297 00:11:57,279 --> 00:12:02,560 the options that uh you have with u the 298 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,920 current model that you have with Wera 299 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:08,320 County EMS as well as the option of uh 300 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,959 merging or bringing the two uh groups 301 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,200 from Wera County EMS and Marquette 302 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:15,519 County EMS together. 303 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Um, last year I also had the opportunity 304 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:20,480 to work with a number of entities on 305 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,839 helping them with their innovation 306 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,160 planning grant. I heard that already 307 00:12:21,839 --> 00:12:26,240 mentioned and uh, congratulations to 308 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,800 Wera County for the grants that you guys 309 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,720 did get. uh there's going to be that 310 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,519 next round coming up of which there's 311 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:36,480 still quite a bit of funding available 312 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:39,760 and uh we believe that uh if you were to 313 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,639 pursue uh that option uh that would 314 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,480 certainly be one of the uh parameters 315 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:46,639 that would make you eligible to apply 316 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:49,279 for this as well. So, we'll be able to 317 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:53,360 bring in to you as a final report the 318 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:56,800 pros and the cons of um 319 00:12:53,360 --> 00:13:00,399 developing a new regional system as well 320 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:02,320 as how that would uh be a benefit um if 321 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:06,020 you wanted to look at the innovation 322 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,880 grant as well. So, um we can 323 00:13:06,020 --> 00:13:09,519 [clears throat] certainly answer any 324 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,200 questions that you have now or go 325 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:12,639 through any part of the proposal that 326 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,000 you would like to. 327 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:16,240 » Does anybody have any questions for 328 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,240 Dana? 329 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,959 want to check in on on timeline wise. 330 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,920 Dana, we had talked that a final report 331 00:13:20,959 --> 00:13:25,440 could be available sometime maybe mid 332 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,480 November. 333 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,880 » Yes. 334 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,240 » Okay. 335 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,480 » We're we're trying to get it done as 336 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,240 quick as possible. Uh that's so it gives 337 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,240 you all the information that you have 338 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,000 without rushing through but to get it 339 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,399 done in a timely fashion so that you 340 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,240 could be eligible for this this the uh 341 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:41,839 first phase of the second round of the 342 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,040 innovation grant. 343 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:46,240 » Sure. And then um I if the committee 344 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,079 decides to go forward with the 345 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,880 consulting services, it'd be something 346 00:13:48,079 --> 00:13:54,760 that would be started right away or is 347 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,760 there a timeline for starting? 348 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:57,360 » Is that question to me? 349 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,000 » Yes. 350 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,600 » Yes, 351 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,959 » We could start right away. 352 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,519 » Okay, thank you. 353 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:06,000 » And that would be I spoke to Megan that 354 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:06,880 be a joint effort between us and 355 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,959 Marquette County. 356 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,040 » Yep. So it would be cost shared between 357 00:14:08,959 --> 00:14:13,279 the two counties. 358 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,440 So the total cost would be shared. 359 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:18,160 » Correct. 360 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:21,120 » Does anybody else have any? 361 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:24,240 » Any questions? 362 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,839 » Are they agreeing to uh the third half 363 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:30,199 or we just kind of assuming they are? 364 00:14:25,839 --> 00:14:30,199 » No, they've agreed to it. 365 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,920 » Okay. 366 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:39,120 » All right. Well, thank you, Dana. Um 367 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:42,880 with that then I would look for um any 368 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:46,320 in a motion to um to move forward with a 369 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:49,360 consulting for evaluation of the EMS 370 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:52,399 between Sher County and Marquette County 371 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:56,079 or look at the look at our system we 372 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:58,560 have now or else look at the um joining 373 00:14:56,079 --> 00:15:01,040 together with Marquette County. So is 374 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,519 there a motion 375 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:06,399 for the consultation? 376 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:09,199 » Uh Mr. chairman. Motion to approve. 377 00:15:06,399 --> 00:15:12,240 » Okay. So, we have a motion uh by Urban. 378 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:15,440 Is there a second? 379 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,959 » Sec. Second by Johnson. Um is there any 380 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,639 discussion? 381 00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:24,880 Anybody have any concerns? 382 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:27,760 » Um I guess I'm I'm I'd like to feel the 383 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,680 committee out on on what everybody is 384 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,560 really thinking about the future of EMS. 385 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:34,079 Um, and I'm only asking this because 386 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,320 I've had some discussion with some of 387 00:15:34,079 --> 00:15:39,360 the the people that I serve um over in 388 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:42,880 my area, especially uh uh yesterday I 389 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:46,160 was in the town of Bloomfield's um uh 390 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:48,160 town town meeting uh last night for 391 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,440 theirs and I just was updating them on 392 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,399 some of the county things that I do 393 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,440 because they're long ways away from my 394 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:58,560 own salation. 395 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:02,320 I told him about um what we were doing 396 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:04,720 with EMS service and and I got I got 397 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:08,800 deep concerns um especially from the 398 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:13,199 town chair over there um 399 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:15,120 making sure that um we don't open a door 400 00:16:13,199 --> 00:16:18,399 that the devil is standing behind, you 401 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:20,240 know, um and go someplace 402 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:23,920 and make some mistakes that we can't 403 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:25,920 turn to back on. um uh the people over 404 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,399 in in that part of the county are very 405 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,279 thankful for the MS service that we have 406 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:33,920 and and really do not want us to to make 407 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:35,600 a mistake on this. So, I just wanted to 408 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,399 express that to the committee that that 409 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,639 the people that I've been talking to um 410 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:41,759 are concerned that they are concerned to 411 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:44,000 make sure that we make the right 412 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:46,240 decision in this. So, I just wanted to 413 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,079 share that with the committee. 414 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,759 I agree with you. I mean, that's what 415 00:16:48,079 --> 00:16:54,079 I've been getting too is um people are 416 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:57,360 cautious because we do have quitting EMS 417 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:59,040 in our county. Um but I guess what I'm 418 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,320 looking at with the with the 419 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:04,319 consultation is is um looking at doing 420 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,480 our due diligence on something like 421 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:09,120 that. That's I guess where I I feel it's 422 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,919 it's um 423 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:16,160 you know there's enough enough unknowns 424 00:17:11,919 --> 00:17:20,559 that I think we owe it to ourselves and 425 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:22,880 to the county to to evaluate it. Um but 426 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:26,319 I mean that's that's what I'm getting as 427 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:28,240 well is that uh 428 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:31,120 they they like our service now. They 429 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,799 don't they don't want to see it uh um 430 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:34,960 become something it's you know something 431 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:37,919 worse. Well, I think that's the whole 432 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,960 purpose of the uh of this of the study 433 00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:42,240 here 434 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:45,360 » Uh for the consultation so that we do do 435 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,480 our due diligence and that um it's not a 436 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,840 just because we're going to do this. 437 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,280 It's not a foregone conclusion that 438 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,559 we're going to go down that path and 439 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,480 that's the whole point of it just to 440 00:17:50,559 --> 00:17:54,799 make sure that we're going down the the 441 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:59,120 best path for era. 442 00:17:54,799 --> 00:18:01,679 Yeah, I think last thing is too um and 443 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:05,919 you mentioned everything I know which is 444 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:09,440 not a lot about our EMS uh services is 445 00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:11,840 that we're uh as as a county we're very 446 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:15,919 efficient and effective in our services 447 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:18,640 that we provide. Um, and so I wanted to 448 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:21,679 be very careful about our messaging last 449 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:24,342 night uh to the gallery that was here 450 00:18:21,679 --> 00:18:24,960 and to every EMS provider 451 00:18:24,342 --> 00:18:30,080 [clears throat] 452 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:33,919 or employee um that there's nothing 453 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:37,120 wrong with the current state of our EMS, 454 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:39,440 but what we're what we shouldn't do is 455 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:41,600 shut down and looking at being in a 456 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:45,919 better position. 457 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:49,840 And and that's where uh what Jason said, 458 00:18:45,919 --> 00:18:51,840 the consultation uh comes in and um and 459 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,799 what we're hoping to get is not a 460 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:58,480 prediction of the future, but a good 461 00:18:54,799 --> 00:19:00,480 idea of where we might be 462 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:05,160 and giving us good information to make 463 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,160 the best decision moving forward. 464 00:19:05,679 --> 00:19:10,880 » Okay. 465 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,440 » I I had one thing if I don't if I can. 466 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,720 Yeah. 467 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:18,080 » Um just and I don't know if this is on 468 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:21,440 the consultant part of it or not, but if 469 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:23,280 they're consulting um finding out some 470 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,200 of the questions that I've heard from 471 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,720 the the EMR groups and and everything 472 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:31,919 like that. One of them was um what's 473 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:34,880 going to happen with EMRs with Washer 474 00:19:31,919 --> 00:19:37,440 County with county having EMRs but 475 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,000 Marquette County not having EMRs? Is 476 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:43,360 that going to change anything that way? 477 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:47,600 just a question that that they have um 478 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:50,880 with that and then the other one was um 479 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:55,039 with our med control that we have in Wer 480 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:57,440 County which he is here today Dr. Bas um 481 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:59,600 what does that look like? I mean is it 482 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,593 Bera do their own Marquette do their own 483 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,880 or is it all one and how that would all 484 00:20:02,593 --> 00:20:08,960 [clears throat] um how that all would be 485 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:12,080 because not just EMS uses med control 486 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:14,559 but our EMRs use med control too and 487 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,039 with having somebody within the county 488 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:19,840 that does it it makes it a lot easier 489 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:21,280 and a lot more accessible to us to have 490 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,720 that. So, I don't know what the 491 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,400 discussions are on that, but them are 492 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,760 just questions that I've that I've had 493 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,559 and I don't know if anybody can answer 494 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,640 it, but 495 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:31,120 » Well, Dana, you've done some of these 496 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,960 before. Is that something you take into 497 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:35,760 account as well? 498 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,440 » Yeah. Yes. Great questions and that's 499 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,360 absolutely something we take into place 500 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,159 and many many other places we're 501 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:44,640 concerned about uh EMRs or emergency 502 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:47,200 medical responders. Uh and just to let 503 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,960 you know, we in every study that we've 504 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,000 done, in every project we've worked on, 505 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:54,799 we have always recommended to work with 506 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,679 and enhance the relationship with EMR 507 00:20:54,799 --> 00:21:00,880 groups. Uh we have never once 508 00:20:57,679 --> 00:21:03,919 recommended uh to do away with them. Uh 509 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:07,360 they are they provide an invaluable 510 00:21:03,919 --> 00:21:09,280 service to all their communities. Uh in 511 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:11,919 fact and and we don't know all the 512 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:15,280 nuances between Wer County and Marquette 513 00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:18,000 County. Uh but I would predict that we 514 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,919 would uh still support uh the EMR 515 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:23,760 services as well as say what can you do 516 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:25,760 to enhance it and even um if it's not 517 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,320 existent in Marquette County, here's 518 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,919 some ideas on what you could do to um 519 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,039 enhance that service or provide that 520 00:21:29,919 --> 00:21:34,720 service in Marquette County as well. As 521 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:36,640 far as medical direction, that's a a 522 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,159 very good point as well. 523 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,720 You don't want to split up medical 524 00:21:38,159 --> 00:21:44,400 direction uh between two different 525 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:46,240 entities. Uh so if you uh again we're 526 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,600 very cautious to say if you decide 527 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,559 because there have been no decisions 528 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,400 made yet uh if there's a decide uh 529 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:55,120 decision for any merger between the 530 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,760 groups um you know the recommendation 531 00:21:55,120 --> 00:22:01,039 will always be that you have a medical 532 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:03,600 director or a co-med director um for the 533 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:06,640 ambulance service that is the same as 534 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,159 the EMR agencies. uh if you get two 535 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,280 different medical directors at two 536 00:22:08,159 --> 00:22:13,360 different um uh types of services, one 537 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,080 transporting, one non-transporting, it 538 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:19,039 it can cause some problems. Uh so we 539 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:22,080 would always recommend maintaining uh 540 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:25,360 either a single director or co-director 541 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,440 uh of the transporting amount service as 542 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:30,440 well as the non-transporting EMR 543 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,440 agencies. 544 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:38,400 » Very good. Um, and just just so we're uh 545 00:22:35,679 --> 00:22:40,640 we all know what we're voting for. So, 546 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,200 they're going to be looking at our EMS 547 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:46,400 as a standalone EMS and they're also 548 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,720 going to look at potential of um joining 549 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,840 us with Marquette. So, it's not just 550 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,400 just the second one and we both on their 551 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:58,600 own. So, um with that, is there any 552 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,600 other discussion 553 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,880 here? Do you mind if I uh pipe in? This 554 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:04,880 is Rob from Marquette County. 555 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,559 » Yes. Go ahead, Rob. 556 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,200 » So, I just want to clarify, we do work 557 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:11,679 with uh EMR groups. Uh we have five EMR 558 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,919 groups um that are currently licensed um 559 00:23:11,679 --> 00:23:15,440 as EMRs under Marquette County's uh 560 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:17,919 medical direction. Um we have 561 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,600 Briggsville, Endeavor, uh Springfield, 562 00:23:17,919 --> 00:23:22,640 Harrisville, 563 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,640 um and uh Newton. So, we do have uh 564 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:28,240 several uh first responder groups that 565 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,799 are affiliated with our service. 566 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,280 Okay. 567 00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:33,440 » All right. Very good. Thank you. 568 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:36,400 Um is there any other discussion from 569 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,880 anybody? 570 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:42,480 Okay. Uh hearing none then we'll proceed 571 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:46,720 to vote. Um all in favor of um hiring a 572 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:49,120 consultant and uh this group with in 573 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:53,440 this uh consultation along with 574 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:56,559 Marquette County uh signify by saying I 575 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,799 oppose. All right. So that passes. All 576 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:01,200 right. Thank you. 577 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:04,559 All right. So then we'll move on to the 578 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:07,440 command and communications report. 579 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:09,120 » All right. The um for committees we have 580 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,480 an EMPG work group for the state. 581 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:12,640 Everything's been pushed through. The 582 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,760 notice of funding came through for 2026 583 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:18,640 and 2027 will be rolled out shortly. Um 584 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,000 that's been applied for and I'm assuming 585 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,000 all goes well. We'll get that grant 586 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,000 again 587 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:31,039 grant submitted again that we've gotten 588 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,360 assuming we'll be again this year for 20 589 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:35,919 or I'm sorry for 2027. 590 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:39,200 Uh continue to update policy and the SOP 591 00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:40,480 SOGS for the communication center and um 592 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,080 and I think I reported this last month 593 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,240 but the strategic plan is complete and 594 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,000 we're we're trying to follow or we are 595 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,799 following that and I'll I'll update that 596 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,080 in just a second. uh upcoming trainings. 597 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,679 I have a mass casualty incident 598 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,200 responder training. We did offer this in 599 00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:54,960 the spring and now we have another one 600 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,440 coming up in November. This one's going 601 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,240 to be held on on a Saturday to hopefully 602 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:03,200 get some firefighters and EMRs through 603 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,960 attend um that because it will be on a 604 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,400 Saturday instead of a weekday. And then 605 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,960 we have our practical application for 606 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,799 incident command system, the basic 607 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,840 course and that's in February and 608 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:13,840 that'll be here at the government 609 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,480 center. 610 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,120 Uh general update, we did have um a 611 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,679 tornado warning issued for Wera County 612 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:23,279 on August 18th. 613 00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:25,279 This radar indicated it actually never 614 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:27,600 touched down. We did have some sheer 615 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:30,080 winds that came with that and it 616 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,840 affected some of the towns in our in our 617 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,840 county. I'm working with those towns to 618 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,799 get some numbers to see if we can 619 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,000 qualify for the Wisconsin disaster fund 620 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:40,720 and hopefully get some of those costs 621 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,720 recouped. It's recouped back at 70%. So 622 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,799 it wouldn't it wouldn't um pay them in 623 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,960 full, but it would get get those towns 624 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:48,240 some money for the debris clean up and 625 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,760 any [clears throat] any other damages 626 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:54,240 they had. Um I just want to note that 627 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,960 dispatch had hundreds of calls during 628 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,279 that storm and they did a fantastic job 629 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:02,159 at logging everything and and getting 630 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:04,480 responders to the right areas and 631 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:05,600 power lines down everywhere. It was it 632 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,880 was really good. They kept track of 633 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,960 everything. They got us all on track and 634 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,279 kept us going where we needed to go. So, 635 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,799 I I wanted to commend them like publicly 636 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:15,520 like this to say they did an excellent 637 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:18,240 job. On the next couple pages, you'll 638 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,480 see where I'm at for budget wise. You'll 639 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,080 the first one you'll see his emergency 640 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,240 managements. 641 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,159 Everything's on track there. Doesn't put 642 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,679 anything out of the ordinary. You'll see 643 00:26:26,159 --> 00:26:30,159 the highlighted areas. Those are the 644 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:31,919 grants that come in. Those will be 645 00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:35,039 reimbured 646 00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:37,279 February, March, we're hoping um April 647 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:38,720 at the latest. Um, so that's just 648 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,400 anticipated money coming in. They have 649 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,159 been awarded, so I don't know why they 650 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,320 wouldn't come in. The next page is our 651 00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:48,400 communications budget. Again, everything 652 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,960 looks to be on track there. Nothing 653 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,480 looks out of the ordinary. Um, and it 654 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,919 appears that everything will be coming 655 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:58,000 in wherever we want it. 656 00:26:55,919 --> 00:27:00,240 The uh the last page is our strategic 657 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,799 plan, and I just wanted to highlight a 658 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,440 few things on there. We are have our 659 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:08,960 one-on- ones with our dispatchers over 660 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,880 the next two weeks. Uh I did send out a 661 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,320 kind of a premeating questionnaire for 662 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,320 them so when we have the meetings are 663 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,400 more productive 664 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,880 get their needs met or at least hear 665 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,279 their needs. 666 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,200 Um that's all I have. 667 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:26,440 Okay. Very good. Is there any questions 668 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,440 for Alan? 669 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:32,159 Uh there's no unfinished business. new 670 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:34,559 business emergency management and 671 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:38,320 communications um discussion hostile 672 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:40,240 action onou with burning county. 673 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,279 » So this uh this is just anou we wanted 674 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,880 to put in place. Our current backup um 675 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:46,799 to if our dispatch center ever went down 676 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,000 is Green Lake County and that will 677 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,919 remain the same. They're our first 678 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,320 choice. The second choice would be 679 00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:53,679 regionally if something happened in Wer 680 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,840 County it could affect Green Lake County 681 00:27:53,679 --> 00:27:57,760 as well. So that's if both PAPs went 682 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,919 down, then we'd reach out to Vernon 683 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,919 County to be our kind of our backup to 684 00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:04,159 the backup. They're a few counties away, 685 00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:06,399 so we would think they wouldn't be as 686 00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:08,320 affected as we are or Green Lake County. 687 00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:09,279 Um, so that was kind of Vernon County 688 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,000 originally reached out and we thought 689 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:13,840 it'd be a great idea to also do the same 690 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,399 and have them be our backup to the 691 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,399 backup. So 692 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,320 » All right, sounds good. Um, would anyone 693 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,320 want to make a motion that we go ahead 694 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,320 with? 695 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:34,159 Motion by Peterman. Second. 696 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,399 Second by Peterson. Any discussion? Any 697 00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:38,080 questions? Okay. Hearing none. All in 698 00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:40,960 favor? 699 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,720 » Oppos? Right. So, that passes. All 700 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,360 right. Very good. We'll move then into 701 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,360 the sheriff's report 702 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:55,159 center numbers. 703 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,159 In August we had 11 false alarms. 704 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Um 16 outer county transports 705 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:08,559 and an average of 430 people came 706 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,720 through a day in August. 707 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:13,720 » Very good. 708 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,720 Uh, 709 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,559 » Good evening. [clears throat] Uh, 710 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:23,200 speaking out jail, uh, we have kept an 711 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:26,399 average population of about 83 84. Uh, 712 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:29,440 that population with, uh, approximately 713 00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:33,279 eight on the EMP services that we 714 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:36,640 provide along with the 25 state inmates 715 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:39,919 um, has held us in and around that 80 to 716 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:43,919 90 number total. Um as you can see in 717 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:47,200 the flyer I gave that PPE and has 718 00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:50,159 provided that we do have the 25 state 719 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:53,360 inmates which provide the total amount 720 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:55,600 there for that income um along with the 721 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,720 food and medical services that we have 722 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:03,360 to provide um knocks us into that net 723 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:05,840 balance of about the 35 and a half. Um 724 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:09,440 along with that uh we have been working 725 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,679 on a remodel for the jail. Um that is 726 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,559 for both of our control rooms and at 727 00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:18,799 some point the the break room as well uh 728 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:22,159 to better provide more efficient work 729 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:23,440 space. Um we are 730 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:26,640 approximately twothirds of the way 731 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,440 through it. Um all the carpeting is in. 732 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,279 Uh housing control is essentially up and 733 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,720 running. Master Control just got 734 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:36,640 furniture today. Uh Ashton was gracious 735 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,279 enough to come over and help move some 736 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:42,080 stuff around to make it more efficient. 737 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:44,159 Um we still have some minor tweaks to 738 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,320 do, but uh should be up and running 739 00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:50,640 fully short. 740 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:52,799 » Okay, any questions? Um with the uh 741 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,399 state in 742 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:59,919 um the income and the food and medical 743 00:30:56,399 --> 00:31:02,480 are for constructors is that assumed 744 00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:05,200 that there wasn't much turnover as far 745 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,440 as in state out. 746 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:11,039 » Yes, that's correct. Uh we've held the 747 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,120 25 uh for the last uh two months. We are 748 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:16,320 now starting to get into the point where 749 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,799 rotation comes through. Um, and it's 750 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:24,000 roughly 6 months for the females from 751 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:26,080 TCI and about 9 months for the DPS. Um, 752 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,600 that being said, we're starting to hit 753 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,320 the turnover points for all the ones 754 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:33,039 that we have. So, we will start probably 755 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,600 seeing fluctuation in those numbers. Um, 756 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:38,320 it is more dependent on them and how 757 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:42,080 they transport. Uh currently we actually 758 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:44,080 have 24 um due to a medical uh event 759 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,919 with one of the females that was coming 760 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:49,760 from T. So we ended up short. If I don't 761 00:31:47,919 --> 00:31:52,080 hear back anything about the new 762 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,720 transport, uh I will be reaching out I 763 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,799 believe Friday to try and evaluate where 764 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,559 we are and see about getting a new 765 00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:01,039 transport in. 766 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:04,799 » Thank you. 767 00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:08,080 I have another question. Any discussion 768 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:12,000 about more inmates 769 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:15,039 at 25? You good at 25? 770 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,880 » We discussed that with um Megan a couple 771 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:19,840 days ago or maybe it was yesterday. I 772 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,240 try yesterday. So something we uh 773 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,360 something we're discussing uh there's if 774 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,799 you note on the 775 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,200 on the financials there, there is a 776 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,880 sweet spot that we like to be at. Um 777 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,519 it's one of those things like if we get 778 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:37,120 if we're approaching the 95 to 100 uh 779 00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:39,919 because our contracts 780 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,519 85 um when we exceed that we start 781 00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:44,480 getting dinged for extra charges. So 782 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:46,720 then actually by taking more we're 783 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,320 actually making less. So we could take 784 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,720 another we could technically take 785 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,640 another five from uh the state that 786 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,080 would bring us in more revenue but we're 787 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,200 going to get dinged on the backside on 788 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:59,279 it. So, I really it's one of those 789 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,399 things where I'm really watching it and 790 00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,399 uh there's potential [clears throat] for 791 00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:06,480 it because we discussed it. Uh we we 792 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:09,120 have room uh but it just is going to if 793 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:12,120 it's worth doing or not on the bottom 794 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,120 line. 795 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,320 » Any other questions? 796 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,039 » Right. 797 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,279 I have a lot. Okay. 798 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:24,240 » Guess I have any place to go. I'm sorry. 799 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:25,440 Um first of all on the financials 800 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,120 just just so we're aware and I just 801 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:32,159 verified it. Um it does say May 2026, 802 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,519 but it's not May 2026. It's August. I 803 00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:36,320 would have a heart attack as you guys 804 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:38,559 probably would too. Um that was only the 805 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,880 the funds in May. But uh we're looking 806 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:43,200 good through um through our numbers 807 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:46,440 there for today. Is there any questions 808 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,440 on that? 809 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:55,519 Not I'll move on um patrol side. We have 810 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,720 three recruits graduating in 811 00:33:55,519 --> 00:34:00,720 approximately a month uh from academy. 812 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,000 They're all doing really well scoring in 813 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,760 90s in their writtens. I think they're 814 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,519 through phase two in their writtens. 815 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,280 There's three phases. So they have one 816 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:13,440 more written. They all passed their 817 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:16,879 final physical tests with flying colors. 818 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,480 So, um, a good group coming through 819 00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:19,760 and again in October when they graduate 820 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,040 a couple days later, we'll start them 821 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,599 all on field training. Currently have 822 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,960 Ron Pi in field training. Been field 823 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:29,839 training for around three weeks now. 824 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,440 He's doing very well. 825 00:34:29,839 --> 00:34:32,399 And again, he's he's a he's a little bit 826 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,639 different creature because he's been 827 00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:38,679 here 30 years. So, it's a little bit 828 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,679 smoother transition for him. 829 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,919 patrol as a whole has been very busy 830 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,520 with OWIs and crashes. Uh we've had a 831 00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:47,679 lot of crashes, a lot of OWI, a lot of 832 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,000 drugs. Uh just the last few weeks, a lot 833 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:52,639 of referrals to the DA 834 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,960 and uh again, we're still short staffed 835 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,280 there. So, they're all they're all uh 836 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,359 working a lot of extra hours, but we're 837 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,079 covering shifts and and uh have some 838 00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:04,720 good things happening. So, regards to 839 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:06,800 vehicles, talked to Megan yesterday on 840 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:09,520 that. We've had we've had a poor week on 841 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,440 vehicles. Um, both of my I I have a 842 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,119 couple high mile vehicles. Uh, one has 843 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,280 issues. Uh, the other one 844 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:18,720 probably has a uh going to be a blown 845 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,000 engine. Uh, good news with that I found 846 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,400 out today that I've been working on. 847 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,280 Hopefully, one of the the engine issues 848 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,280 is going to be covered under um 849 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,079 basically under under a warranty that 850 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,800 they have for for a recall. So, that 851 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:35,599 would be great news because that's 852 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,920 probably about eight $9,000. 853 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,680 So, um, we're going to find out on that, 854 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,599 but the the preliminary is that we're 855 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,760 going to hope to get a new engine out of 856 00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:46,800 it without a whole lot of cost. 857 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,160 Detective Bureau, um, very busy. 858 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,000 Obviously, you guys are aware we've had 859 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,400 multiple homicides. 860 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,760 Those will continue to be busy all the 861 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,680 way up through 862 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,680 basically through court. Uh, court could 863 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,720 be out two years on these. A lot of you 864 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,400 have prelims, you have uh motion 865 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:06,160 hearings. 866 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,480 So there there's a lot of lot that go 867 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,040 into those. Uh we just had a possible 868 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,720 suicide missing person case yesterday 869 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,160 where an individual didn't show up to a 870 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:18,000 jury trial in Green Lake. Um so that's 871 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,920 taking up a lot of time right now as 872 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,200 well trying to figure out if that 873 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,680 individual sconded and uh just decided 874 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:28,320 not to show up and left or if he decided 875 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,960 to harm himself. 876 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:34,160 On a brighter note, back to school bash. 877 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:36,880 Uh the stuff the squad actually turned 878 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,760 out fairly well. I give credit to all 879 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,760 the administrative staff, Darlene, uh 880 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,680 Taylor and Caitlyn. They handled it and 881 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,839 did it all. I helped pound a steak in. 882 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,079 That was about it. Um but they crushed 883 00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:49,280 it. A lot of people dropped some 884 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,359 supplies off that they'll be 885 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:55,200 distributing there. 886 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:57,760 So that was again a success this year. 887 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,280 And then I was just uh asked to discuss 888 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,000 block a little bit because I know that's 889 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,480 been a hot topic. Um major major 890 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,359 discussion with uh a lot of agencies and 891 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,920 a lot of uh 892 00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:12,800 a lot of communities in the area. 893 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,200 Unfortunately, Wisconsin has seen a 894 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,520 uptick. We're we're like the hot state 895 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,440 right now. Much like Minnesota was the 896 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,520 hot state for a lot of political 897 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,839 activity, you know, a few years ago. 898 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:27,359 We're also the the hot state for for 899 00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:28,880 this flock debate where um again 900 00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:30,960 unfortunately I think a lot of it has 901 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,520 come down to being a lot of white noise 902 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,400 and a lot of politics involved versus 903 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,880 fact. Um just wanted to put it on record 904 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,400 and and have everybody know. Um you know 905 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:45,280 I we did a a joint statement with uh 906 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:48,720 Chief Mott that was put in the Argus. Um 907 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:52,160 I did post that to website as well uh on 908 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:54,960 Jesse uh Urban's uh urging and and 909 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:59,359 knowledge uh was able to uh do some 910 00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:01,280 things on our website uh to put some 911 00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:03,680 additional information as to the facts 912 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,560 of block out there. Um so hopefully 913 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:10,160 that's going to help with the community. 914 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:12,400 I am a big proponent and I will always 915 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,079 advocate for it and I will not back down 916 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,920 advocating for it because I know it 917 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:20,560 works and I know it has worked here and 918 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,480 um it's helped an 8-year-old child come 919 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,960 home that that uh was not sexually 920 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,359 assaulted because of it that was states 921 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,320 away in Oklahoma was found with flock. 922 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:33,599 We found um elderly individuals with 923 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:37,280 flock uh that were missing. 924 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:39,280 If used correctly, it is a tool that 925 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,040 again is is is unbelievable. I think 926 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,520 I've talked to each one of you 927 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,599 personally a little bit. Um I could go 928 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:50,000 on and on and on for 30, 40, 50 minutes 929 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:51,599 and hours actually. But um the issues 930 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,599 that are out there that people are 931 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:55,680 talking about, most of them again are 932 00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:57,200 not factual, which again the Argus 933 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,680 article was not factual and was 934 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,359 corrected. Uh there's anti-flock 935 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,800 individuals that are are out there 936 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:06,880 pushing the it's not constitutional 937 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,520 um discussion. 938 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,800 As of right now it is constitutional. So 939 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,800 I I told everybody here and I I'll again 940 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,720 stand by it. If it ever becomes 941 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,320 unconstitutional and we have to pull 942 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:21,119 them, we will obviously follow the law 943 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,800 and pull them. Uh but I've been 944 00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,400 following the same case law as long as 945 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,000 I've been in this business for 18 years 946 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,839 now. um you're in the business before. 947 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,320 Uh there's case law that we are allowed 948 00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:35,040 to run license plates to look for wanted 949 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,880 subjects to look for people with um 950 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,040 driving history. They're revoked, 951 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,280 suspended. We can legally make stops on 952 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:45,920 those. That's what's happening. That's 953 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:48,000 the law. Um I've been 954 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:52,160 my entire career. I run hundreds of them 955 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:54,079 a night u visually um as we're driving 956 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:58,079 as as a vehicle's driving by as I'm 957 00:39:54,079 --> 00:40:01,280 parked in in gas stations uh wherever we 958 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:02,960 run those license plates and we find bad 959 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,680 people that are in our community that 960 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,200 need to go to jail. That law is not 961 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,520 going to change. Again, there's there's 962 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,720 case law out there. Ruth Ruth's aware of 963 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:17,520 it. U we we have it's in the courts. 964 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:19,280 It's it's solid. Um, just because a 965 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,800 block camera is picking up that license 966 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:25,200 plate now that we are able to run 967 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,960 doesn't change things. It's the only 968 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,440 thing that a camera is doing is picking 969 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,359 up a license plate. It's not picking up 970 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,680 human beings. It doesn't track human 971 00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:36,480 beings. Picks up license plates only. 972 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,079 The rear of a car and a tag. And then in 973 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,400 order for that tape to be run to get any 974 00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:42,400 personal information has to be run by a 975 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,880 subject who has the authority to do it 976 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:48,480 which are the cops that have authority 977 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,320 through time systems or Stillman uh that 978 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:54,560 then goes to the DOT and returns to the 979 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:56,480 state. So nothing has changed 980 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,480 other than the white noise and the 981 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,599 rhetoric that's out there right now. 982 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:04,560 We've been running plates for years and 983 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:06,160 years and years. Our vehicles have been 984 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,599 running plates for years and years and 985 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,599 years because we have license plate 986 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:13,359 readers and vehicles. 987 00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:15,119 That that has not ever been an issue. Um 988 00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:18,920 there there's there's sheriffs out there 989 00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:18,920 right now that are 990 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:23,200 upset because the politics are taking 991 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,760 over and people are looking for votes, 992 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,440 not the safety of the citizens. That's 993 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,359 wrong. 994 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,720 Um, I will advocate for it because 995 00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:34,720 again, it is something that 996 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:38,000 » Unless you're doing something wrong, 997 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:40,640 should have no issues with it. 998 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:44,160 » Scott, just a quick question because 999 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:48,160 I've been asked multiple times about 1000 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:51,200 slot cameras, my opinion, on and on, and 1001 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,720 I I hear the concerns coming from two 1002 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,760 avenues. 1003 00:41:52,720 --> 00:42:00,960 Uh, the first one I can quickly put down 1004 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:02,800 because any um tool, any technology that 1005 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:06,079 law enforcement has to help them do 1006 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:08,000 their job is only as effective and as 1007 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:09,119 good as the policies and the people, 1008 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,839 right? 1009 00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:13,839 » Um, and so, you know, so you get the 1010 00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:16,160 concern of, you know, what if so and so 1011 00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:19,359 is, you know, an officer's stalking a 1012 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,400 girlfriend or whatever else, right? 1013 00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:26,000 Um and that's but then the other concern 1014 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:29,520 is uh flock as a corporation as an 1015 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:33,760 entity. Um that one I can't really speak 1016 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:35,119 to. I I don't know much about Sure. And 1017 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,480 I can give you good information on that. 1018 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:38,160 So you can go back to your constituents 1019 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,200 because that that's where that's where 1020 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,359 the the concerns really come out um that 1021 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,319 there's a lot of stuff floating around 1022 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:47,839 that's untrue. Um, first of all, uh, 1023 00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:49,200 there there's there's two major players 1024 00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:51,280 in the game right now. There's Flock and 1025 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,599 Axon. Okay, everybody's familiar with 1026 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,000 Axon, which is Motorola, which is a 1027 00:42:53,599 --> 00:43:00,720 multi-billion billion dollar company, 1028 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:02,800 right? Flock right now dominates the um, 1029 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:04,960 the camera market right now for for this 1030 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,920 system. Axon is trying to get into the 1031 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:11,920 camera market as more as much as they 1032 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,520 can. um to to let you know that the 1033 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,839 individuals that are going away from 1034 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,000 flock, they're not going away from 1035 00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:20,319 license plate readers. So, just so 1036 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,079 everybody's aware of that, there will 1037 00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:24,240 always be a license plate reader as long 1038 00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,280 as it's constitutional and it's legal. 1039 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,119 They're just going to a different 1040 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,720 company potentially because of the white 1041 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:33,040 noise out there. So, 1042 00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:34,960 Axon is the other big player. They're 1043 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,440 reading like Manasha, Nina. 1044 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,599 » Yeah, just Nina Manasha. I saw the news 1045 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,520 today. They're doing away with flock and 1046 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:43,920 everybody's happy that with that but 1047 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,200 then quietly they say correct but we're 1048 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,560 replacing it with Axon. 1049 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,960 » Correct. 1050 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:55,680 » Axon uh has actually more AI features 1051 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:59,760 than Flock. Um the difference between 1052 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:03,440 the the the two companies Axon is an 1053 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,800 internal. So only your your like the 1054 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,839 sheriff's department say county 1055 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,359 sheriff's department will have the 1056 00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:08,720 cameras only with sheriff county 1057 00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:12,480 sheriff's department can access those 1058 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:14,079 cameras that defeats the purpose of most 1059 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,319 of this because we would have never 1060 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:18,800 found the girl in Oklahoma. It's the 1061 00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:20,880 sharing that that allows that makes this 1062 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:24,079 thing such a beautiful thing between 1063 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,680 agencies. Um now is Axeline going to 1064 00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:27,760 stay doing that? I don't believe they 1065 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,119 are. I believe soon as the white noise 1066 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,599 is over they're going to be flowing 1067 00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:33,760 through this. um they actually have 1068 00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:35,599 facial recognition built into their 1069 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,440 systems different than than we have with 1070 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:40,000 with Glock. Glock is not a facial 1071 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,920 recognition. These cameras are not 1072 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:45,359 there. There is certain cameras that 1073 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:47,520 Glock will sell um that do a facial 1074 00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:49,599 recognition and are designed for parks 1075 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,040 and outdoor events, things like that. We 1076 00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:53,920 don't have any of those. Ours are 1077 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:57,119 strictly license plate readers. So yes 1078 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,880 um there there is 1079 00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:02,240 you know this poll of you know what are 1080 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:04,319 the differences in the companies um the 1081 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:05,680 the concern with FL that there was 1082 00:45:04,319 --> 00:45:07,760 something going out there that they're 1083 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,720 selling our data [clears throat] that we 1084 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:13,040 have that is false um all of our data is 1085 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:14,480 encrypted um from the camera up to the 1086 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,079 cloud it stays in the cloud encrypted 1087 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,520 and it only comes down it's retrieved by 1088 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:22,480 us um they are not selling it to anybody 1089 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,319 can sell it to anybody not contractual 1090 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,880 uh the information that it was being 1091 00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:29,119 sold to somebody 1092 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,680 is because and this is where this is 1093 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:36,400 where the facts come in. The company 1094 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:38,079 itself has an agreement uh with 1095 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:42,480 researchers 1096 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:45,920 um to use our data that we can you that 1097 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:50,400 can be used to help assist in 1098 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:52,079 identifying future cars. So, u like like 1099 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,760 uh Tesla 1100 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:56,079 um or the Cybert truck. The Cybert truck 1101 00:45:53,760 --> 00:46:00,560 is a great example. Cybertruck to took 1102 00:45:56,079 --> 00:46:03,280 200,000 pictures in order for flock to 1103 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,800 have a near 100% 1104 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,160 recognized 1105 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,839 system. So two it need 200,000 different 1106 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:14,720 photos from different angles, top, 1107 00:46:09,839 --> 00:46:17,520 sides, corners, all around um distances 1108 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:19,839 in order for that to be put in block to 1109 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,760 say, okay, if we put in we want a Cybert 1110 00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:27,119 truck that's gray um in this model year 1111 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,880 that then when that returns to us, it's 1112 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,079 a it's a high probability that it's that 1113 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,800 vehicle. We still have to do our due 1114 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:35,760 diligence to find that out, okay? But 1115 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,760 they can't just put in their system, one 1116 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:41,520 picture of a cyber truck from one angle 1117 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:43,920 that they took off off either anywhere 1118 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:47,040 else and say it's going to be accurate. 1119 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,680 So it's not being sold outside to other 1120 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,760 firms to sell you things. Now that being 1121 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,920 said, 1122 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,560 all the AI that's everywhere else is 1123 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,079 being sold that everybody is is not 1124 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,240 worried about. Every time you go to 1125 00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:02,000 Walmart, every time you go to Menard's, 1126 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,839 Home Depot, Lowe's, you go through the 1127 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,760 Lowe's parking lot, there's 500 blocks 1128 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:09,599 cameras parked in there. Same with same 1129 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,800 with Menards. Same with um Walmart. Now, 1130 00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:12,640 when you go to Walmart, you go to 1131 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,800 Menards, those those places when they 1132 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,319 have cameras in there are actually 1133 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,160 capturing you. They're actually 1134 00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:19,680 capturing you and capturing you swiping 1135 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,720 your credit card. So, they know who you 1136 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,200 are. They identify you as a person. and 1137 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:26,240 then they can send you coupons as to 1138 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,839 what you're buying because they know 1139 00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:30,079 what you're buying. So, we want to talk 1140 00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:32,880 about invasion of privacy and concerns 1141 00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:36,000 and not being unconstitutional. 1142 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,680 That that is a privacy issue. Okay? Our 1143 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,680 cameras take pictures of your license 1144 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,760 plate just like my eyes do when I'm 1145 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,480 sitting out there watching the cars come 1146 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,760 by or going through a parking lot. I I 1147 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,720 take a mental picture of all your 1148 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,599 license plates. The only thing we're 1149 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:52,079 doing is we're helping basically making 1150 00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:54,800 a deterrent to the county. don't come 1151 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:57,680 here and commit crimes because if you do 1152 00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:01,520 we have a way to find you. 1153 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,880 So, um t you know it's it's it's 1154 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,839 basically right now to be honest with 1155 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,440 you it's politics and it's a fight over 1156 00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:09,359 two giants that are trying to be number 1157 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,359 one and there's stuff that's being spun 1158 00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:13,440 out there that isn't true. Uh when you 1159 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:15,599 learn the facts, 1160 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,880 you know, it's it's very frustrating to 1161 00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:20,400 see what's happening. Um the the there's 1162 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,680 there's things called a penetration test 1163 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,400 just so everybody's aware too. And I'm 1164 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:27,520 going to throw this out here. Flack 1165 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:30,319 flack camera system uses a company 1166 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:34,400 called Bishop Fox. 1167 00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:37,599 26 out of the out of the 100 top 100 1168 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,480 companies uses Bishop Fox. Eight out of 1169 00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:42,559 10 of the top tech companies uses Bishop 1170 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,119 Fox. What Bishop Fox is, it's a 1171 00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:47,280 penetration company. Their whole job is 1172 00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:50,559 to try to 1173 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,559 break down these system to try to find 1174 00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:54,480 to basically try to break into them and 1175 00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:57,680 pull data. 1176 00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:00,400 So Flock hire them and uses them to make 1177 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,319 sure that their data is secure. 1178 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,079 So 1179 00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:06,160 the biggest issue here guys, I'm going 1180 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:09,760 be I mean quite frank is is there there 1181 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,680 are some agencies out there that are 1182 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,520 probably loose in their policy and 1183 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,440 that's an issue that's issue that the 1184 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:19,440 sheriffs are having um and that maybe 1185 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,440 some of the states are having. It's not 1186 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,079 the technology itself. The techn is 1187 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,760 fantastic. It's it's the individuals 1188 00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,520 that are using it and and not 1189 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,359 controlling [clears throat] it. 1190 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,880 uh if you put the controls on it like we 1191 00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:35,440 have with policy with audits 1192 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:38,400 uh I audit it once a month every month 1193 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:41,280 and or more if there would be an issue 1194 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:44,400 it's also internally audited which um 1195 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,640 right now is one of the few or the only 1196 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:50,640 that has an AI generated internal audit 1197 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:53,040 system too that looks for 1198 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,359 activity from individuals that might be 1199 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,960 something they shouldn't be doing. So, 1200 00:49:55,359 --> 00:49:58,400 their system actually looks for that, 1201 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,680 notifies me if there's somebody that 1202 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:05,359 would be doing something. Um, I require 1203 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:07,520 all cases to have a case number, uh, to 1204 00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:10,800 have a reason why you're doing it and to 1205 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:13,440 be attached to a case. So, any anytime 1206 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,680 any license plate is ran through the 1207 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,839 system, we have a case that is pulled 1208 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,680 through Stillman that documents what 1209 00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:20,559 we're doing. It's not just you're not 1210 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,240 going to sit there and you're going to 1211 00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:25,520 run 500 plates through the system a 1212 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:27,839 night. has to be for drugs, for missing 1213 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,119 person, suicide, any of these things. 1214 00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:32,079 And then it has to have a case attached 1215 00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:34,319 to it. So, it's it's very well reigned 1216 00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:36,480 in, it's very well restricted. I also 1217 00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:40,079 restrict and control who can see our 1218 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,839 plates. So, I don't allow out of state. 1219 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:44,800 And I right now have it set up for 100 1220 00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:46,000 mile radius for acceptance. If you want 1221 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,280 to be accepted, you're outside of our 1222 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,480 100 mile radius. You have to send a 1223 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,480 request to me. I review it to see why 1224 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,640 what we're doing and then I can accept 1225 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,480 or reject it. I've had requests from 1226 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,880 Colorado. I've had requests from 1227 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,400 Florida. I no I mean we're rejecting 1228 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,599 those. There's no reason for somebody 1229 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,079 Florida needs to be looking at license 1230 00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:05,839 plates from Sher County. Okay. But our 1231 00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:07,280 surrounding communities definitely do 1232 00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:11,559 because they have the same bad actors 1233 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,559 that we have in our in our community. 1234 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:17,599 » Very good. Thank you, Scott. Appreciate 1235 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,920 that. Can I ask you a question? Sure. Go 1236 00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:22,160 ahead. 1237 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:25,599 » Uh, so say say you had a deputy that was 1238 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:28,000 misusing the flot system, what what 1239 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:29,599 would the disciplinary action be in a 1240 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,200 case like that? 1241 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,480 » I guess it would obviously depend on it, 1242 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,800 but you've seen in the news what's going 1243 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:39,040 to probably happen to most of these. Um, 1244 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,359 my my again, it's up to the sheriff 1245 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,280 because I'm I'm not in control. my 1246 00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:45,599 personal opinion, if you're misusing FL 1247 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,520 with all the the individuals that we 1248 00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:49,520 have for all the things that are going 1249 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:52,680 on right now, um you're not going to be 1250 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,680 here anymore. 1251 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,400 » And I think there's no reason for that. 1252 00:51:55,359 --> 00:52:01,680 Uh and again, and it can be criminal. 1253 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,440 So, not only can it be a policy internal 1254 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,119 violation where you would be terminated 1255 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,800 from our department, they're all aware 1256 00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:10,079 of that. They're all aware that I 1257 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,839 monitor it. Um, it records the 1258 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:14,160 individual that's doing it, the date and 1259 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:16,640 time, again, the case numbers. If if 1260 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,800 there's any discrepancies there, they 1261 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,800 all are very aware that they are not 1262 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,480 going to have a job in Masher County. 1263 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,760 And depending on the circumstances, they 1264 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,160 can also be charged criminally. 1265 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,640 I think too, we got to look at it like 1266 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,800 like George said, it's another tool in 1267 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,359 the toolbox. And in your profession, 1268 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,760 there's there's many tools that you use 1269 00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:40,160 from vehicles to weapons to there's a 1270 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,800 lot of tool tools that you're 1271 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,319 responsible for. And so I think it 1272 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,960 probably stands to reason with any one 1273 00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:48,240 of those would be kind of the same. 1274 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,839 » That's the issue. And that's, you know, 1275 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,760 we're picking on flock right now because 1276 00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:55,119 again, I think a lot of it politics and 1277 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,720 financial. The reality is I I I can give 1278 00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:59,280 you another 12 different tools that we 1279 00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:00,800 have that are way more invasive than a 1280 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:04,319 block 1281 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:07,760 that I can I can find I know everything 1282 00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:10,760 about you guys to the day you were born 1283 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,760 » Secret 1284 00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:16,319 use of resources too because I mean you 1285 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,559 couldn't have you couldn't put enough uh 1286 00:53:16,319 --> 00:53:21,200 deputies on the streets to cover the 1287 00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:22,960 areas that FL currently covers which are 1288 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,960 essentially doing the same Okay. For 1289 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,160 just another set of eyes, correct for 1290 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,880 for 1291 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,319 » Roughly 3,000 a unit right now. Uh if we 1292 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,640 have eight units out there, you have 1293 00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:34,640 eight other deputies out there. Uh and 1294 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:39,119 and again, it's it's already proven. 1295 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:42,079 Chief Mott's very adamant about um 1296 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:45,119 about having it and keeping it. Um we we 1297 00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:47,200 both are uh we've both seen it work. Uh 1298 00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:49,599 and again, I 1299 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,440 I I struggle with with those that don't. 1300 00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:54,160 I always say, you know, if you have a 1301 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,319 missing child, you have a missing parent 1302 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,400 and and you come to us and we say, well, 1303 00:53:56,319 --> 00:54:01,760 you know, I don't know, they went that 1304 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:03,200 way. Maybe I it's very difficult. We 1305 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,760 have a we have a tool right now that we 1306 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:09,760 can pinpoint it. Um they they took an 1307 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:13,359 individual in the city of Pan on on 1308 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,960 was wanted for homicide. Uh dinged on 1309 00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:16,559 dinged on a plot camera come through the 1310 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,800 city and and mailed him to the home and 1311 00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:19,839 he's sitting in jail right now. didn't 1312 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,800 have that flat camera, everyone would 1313 00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:24,640 have them. Those people come and go. You 1314 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,079 can only do so much with your own eyes. 1315 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,760 I tried to do as many as I could at 1316 00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:29,359 night. I, like I said, I run hundreds. 1317 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,839 As I got older, it got more difficult 1318 00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:34,160 with my eyes. But, uh, and they got 1319 00:54:31,839 --> 00:54:36,960 faster for some reason. 1320 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,400 So, but but the plates can pick up, you 1321 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,680 know, these these readers can pick up 1322 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:45,517 plate after plate after plate. They 1323 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:45,920 don't get tired like a human does. So, 1324 00:54:45,517 --> 00:54:48,000 [snorts] 1325 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,559 » Thank you very much. appreciate that 1326 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:53,760 update on that. So, uh, is there any 1327 00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:55,599 other questions on on any of it? Now, I 1328 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,640 I just wanted to go back to you said, 1329 00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:00,880 uh, you have some patrol officers that 1330 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:05,920 are are graduating. Will that mean that 1331 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:07,839 your detective squad will get some new 1332 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,040 will some people move into that area 1333 00:55:07,839 --> 00:55:10,319 then? And 1334 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,559 » Difficulty is 1335 00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:14,319 » Not difficulty, but you have four months 1336 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,160 in academy and then after that you have 1337 00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:17,200 four months of field training. Okay. So, 1338 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,160 even though we're bringing them in in 1339 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:22,720 October, we're not going to see a real 1340 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,818 push into helping us out into probably 1341 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:26,720 January, February of next year. Uh, 1342 00:55:24,818 --> 00:55:28,160 [snorts] and then as things come because 1343 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:30,160 it's cyclical, we also have some 1344 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,160 retirements. The sheriff is not is not 1345 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,680 uh obviously going to be back. Uh, and 1346 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,720 we have some other retirements. So, we 1347 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,960 will have some openings. I have Deb 1348 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:40,538 working on posting those openings. So, 1349 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,920 we're actually start again 1350 00:55:40,538 --> 00:55:44,160 [clears throat] hiring process to to 1351 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:47,520 bring some more people in. Um hopefully 1352 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,040 with uh the direction we're going now, 1353 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,680 we'll attract some people that already 1354 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:54,160 are in the business that we can bring in 1355 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,680 and start uh in, you know, fairly quick 1356 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,440 versus having to send through academy 1357 00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:02,160 and that eight-month process. 1358 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:06,760 » Sure. Okay. Thank you very much. Um 1359 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,760 strategic plan progress updates 1360 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,839 » Any we we had some Alen had one there. I 1361 00:56:10,319 --> 00:56:12,640 don't know you guys have any updates on 1362 00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:16,160 yours at this 1363 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:18,160 » Point. We we uh completed our strate 1364 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,400 strategic plan um implemented 1365 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,680 everything. So uh basically what we're 1366 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,720 doing is we're going to try to uh 1367 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,400 fine-tune it um make things better and 1368 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:27,599 and add some for this upcoming year. 1369 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,839 That's where we're at. 1370 00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:33,839 » Right. Good. Any questions on that? 1371 00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:38,839 » All right. Uh with that, we'll move into 1372 00:56:33,839 --> 00:56:38,839 the 2027 budget budget discussion. 1373 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,119 I don't know who. 1374 00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:44,880 » Yeah, I don't have anything to share. I 1375 00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:47,760 think everybody shared theirs at the 1376 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,200 last meeting. Um they were presented 1377 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,640 last month. I think Amanda wasn't here, 1378 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,839 but she shared hers during her report. 1379 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,920 So unless you have any additional 1380 00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:54,480 questions on that, I'm happy to update 1381 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,040 on that. 1382 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:59,440 » Does anybody have any questions? 1383 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,760 » You've seen any changes from last month 1384 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:05,280 with these departments? um 1385 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,720 » Worth talking about 1386 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,400 » More administratively like Amanda 1387 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:14,000 mentioned we um separated out some 1388 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:17,040 accounts um for medical examiner um from 1389 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,040 the EMS front um I don't know that there 1390 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,839 were any changes um one thing that we're 1391 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:25,839 looking at is keeping that levy flat 1392 00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:27,920 there um so utilizing some of the fund 1393 00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:30,079 balance towards their equipment 1394 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,880 purchases for 2027 we did the same thing 1395 00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:35,839 in 202 26. Um we'll be taking a smaller 1396 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:38,799 amount from balance for the 2027 budget 1397 00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:41,280 um to fund their monitors for next year. 1398 00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:42,400 Um and then on the sheriff's department 1399 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,799 front, I think we added in the 1400 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,680 innovation grant um that we didn't have 1401 00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:49,359 initially. Um there's we've had some 1402 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,359 discussion on some equipment for the 1403 00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:53,680 jail that's needed. Um taking that out 1404 00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:55,920 of the 2027 CIP and possibly doing an 1405 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,680 amendment to the 2026 to utilize some 1406 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,680 surplus from this year to purchase it 1407 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,960 this year instead. Um, but we're still 1408 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:06,079 kind of evaluating some of that. 1409 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:10,319 » Okay, sounds good. Any other any other 1410 00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:12,240 questions on the budget? 1411 00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:15,599 » All right, sounds good. With that, we're 1412 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:17,839 up to future suggested agenda items. Is 1413 00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:20,160 there anybody have anything they would 1414 00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:22,240 like to get on the agenda for another 1415 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,559 meeting? 1416 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,760 Okay, I'm not seeing any. I would look 1417 00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:31,520 for a motion to adjourn. 1418 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:35,960 Motion motion by Peterson. 1419 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,960 Second by Peterman. We're journ.