[0:01] Okay, it's 4:30, so we'll
[0:05] call the public safety committee meeting
[0:07] to order. Roll calls that everyone is
[0:09] present here. Um, you had a agenda sent
[0:13] to you. Is there any additions or
[0:15] corrections to that agenda? Not. I'd
[0:17] look for a motion to approve. Motion
[0:20] moving by Jay. Is there a second?
[0:23] » Second by George. Uh, any discussion?
[0:26] All in favor?
[0:28] » Opposed? All right. So, that passes. Um,
[0:31] and you also sent the minutes of the 812
[0:35] 2026 regular meeting. Um, is there any
[0:38] additions or corrections to those
[0:40] minutes? If not, I look for a motion to
[0:42] approve those. Motion to approve. Okay.
[0:45] Motion by Peterson. Second.
[0:49] » Second by Irvin. Uh, any discussion?
[0:52] All in favor? I opposed. All right. So,
[0:55] that passes as well. Public comments. Is
[0:58] there any public comments today?
[1:02] » Okay, seeing none, we'll move into the
[1:04] fire services region.
[1:08] Not too much to uh bring up with fire
[1:11] departments. Uh fire has been a little
[1:13] slower, but uh EMS has definitely been
[1:16] very busy um with that, but uh nothing
[1:19] for fire that I have unless you guys
[1:22] have any questions, but
[1:26] » Okay. Thank you. All right. Uh medical
[1:30] examiner.
[1:33] » Hello everyone. Can you hear me? Okay.
[1:36] Okay. So, [clears throat] I'll give you
[1:38] the individual county deaths. Um for
[1:40] Green Lake, we had 22 total deaths. 18
[1:42] of those were ME cases. 16 natural, one
[1:45] accident, one currently pending autopsy
[1:47] or toxicology. For Marquette, we had 18
[1:50] total deaths, 15 were ME cases, 13
[1:52] natural, one accident, one pending
[1:54] autopsy or toxicology. And for Wer, we
[1:57] had 21 total deaths. 17 were ME cases,
[1:59] 16 natural, one accident, and we had no
[2:01] autopsies. Total deaths for all counties
[2:03] were 61 for the month of August. Um, you
[2:06] will see in the packet that I gave you,
[2:08] there is the year-to-ate budget report
[2:10] for the ME's office. Um, there are
[2:13] different um and newly created accounts
[2:16] for each county. So, we can
[2:17] differentiate now for death
[2:19] certificates, cremation permits, and
[2:21] other fees. So you'll see that change um
[2:24] for this year because those were just
[2:25] created this year. So we're moving we're
[2:27] doing journal entries to move those into
[2:29] the appropriate accounts. You will see
[2:31] that. Next you will have the proposed um
[2:35] 2027
[2:37] um budget that um we're looking at um
[2:40] and asking for. And you'll see those
[2:42] accounts again divvied up within there
[2:45] just to kind of show you what we're
[2:47] looking at for each individual county
[2:49] and what the picture is for that.
[2:53] Do you have any questions for those?
[2:58] [clears throat]
[2:59] » I just question. So, am I seeing this
[3:01] right? You're looking at a
[3:04] $162,000
[3:05] increase in revenue.
[3:08] » So, we did acquire the contract with
[3:10] Green Lake County this year and that is
[3:12] for only six months, but we're also
[3:15] increasing the revenues because of the
[3:16] death certificates and cremation permits
[3:18] we are signing. So there is incre an
[3:20] increase in that plus the innovation
[3:21] grant that we did receive. So that is
[3:24] also in there.
[3:28] And then for um Marquette County, they
[3:30] have agreed to renew. They want to renew
[3:32] for the next three years. The innovation
[3:34] grant actually just opened up today. I
[3:36] saw the email come through due October
[3:38] 1st. I'm hoping that we can um apply for
[3:41] that for Marquette County to also
[3:43] continue to receive the safety
[3:44] innovation grant for that county as
[3:46] well. Yeah, and if I can just clarify on
[3:49] that, it actually opens up October 1st.
[3:51] There'll be a round due December 31st
[3:53] for a grant payment in early 2027.
[3:56] There'll also be another round due March
[3:57] 31st for a grant in June next year. So,
[4:00] we are working with Marquette County to
[4:02] structure that contract so that it's
[4:03] eligible as as well.
[4:07] » Um, we're still continuing to um recruit
[4:10] applicants for a part-time deputy. Um,
[4:12] we have had some um they just have not
[4:15] been qualified. A lot of the recipients
[4:17] that we are getting are out of state and
[4:19] not realizing really what the pay is
[4:21] because the part-time deputy is paid
[4:23] that 150 per hour, a$150 per hour while
[4:27] on call, but then when they get called
[4:28] out, it's a different wage on the wage
[4:30] scale. So, um I am continuing to reach
[4:34] out to people and see if there's anybody
[4:35] available, but if you guys know of
[4:37] anybody, please do send them our way. Um
[4:39] we have um Lindsay Folstrom in our
[4:43] office as the administrative assistant.
[4:44] She's working out wonderfully. Um, she's
[4:46] a quick learner. She's a go-getter. Um,
[4:48] she runs our office like a very tight
[4:50] ship right now. So, she's doing very
[4:52] well and we are very appreciative of
[4:54] her. August 26, I did participate in the
[4:56] Green Lake County mass casualty
[4:58] incident. They asked me to come in the
[5:00] afternoon for the death notifications,
[5:03] but they actually couldn't find
[5:05] volunteers. It was very difficult for
[5:06] them to grab volunteers that wanted to
[5:08] actually receive a death notification.
[5:10] Nobody wants to receive that. But I did
[5:13] actually sit down and have a great
[5:15] conversation with u many of their HHS
[5:18] workers um their um therapists,
[5:20] behavioral therapists and such. Plus, we
[5:22] had mansior gun because this did take
[5:24] place up at All Saints in Berlin. And we
[5:26] had a great conversation of what does
[5:28] this look like? What do we need here?
[5:30] What are the resources we need? because
[5:32] I likely will not be there to re to
[5:34] provide that death notification to
[5:36] families because I'm going to be out in
[5:38] the field making sure that things are
[5:39] done accurately and then my deputies
[5:41] will be out there with me and then other
[5:42] deputies will be running business as
[5:44] usual. Okay. Um and then the last sheet
[5:48] in your packet you'll see it's called
[5:50] the memory rock garden.
[5:53] Um, the safety innovation grant provided
[5:55] us some funds that Megan allowed me to
[5:56] use to redo those large 35- foot
[6:00] planters out front the old highway shop,
[6:02] now our office. We have completed them.
[6:04] It was a lot of work. My staff and I did
[6:06] this hauling rock and planting trees.
[6:09] Bloxs garden or Bloxs Farm had provided
[6:12] the landscaping materials and stuff like
[6:15] that. They um waved the delivery fee, so
[6:18] that's why you see their Bloxs Farm logo
[6:21] on the bottom here. This is what is
[6:23] going to be in a plaqueard outside in
[6:25] the garden for families to come up and
[6:27] see. We have these um pre-made bags for
[6:32] families to take paint these rocks and
[6:34] bring them back into the garden at
[6:36] night. We did I did purchase solar
[6:38] lights. So, we have soil lights that
[6:39] light up the garden and you'll be able
[6:41] to see that as well. So, I welcome you
[6:42] to come and see our little rock garden
[6:45] for people um to come and and do this.
[6:48] And I think it's a great effort on
[6:50] behalf of the medical examiner's office
[6:52] to connect and continue to connect with
[6:54] communities and families that we serve.
[6:56] Um ATSF will be putting their flag up
[6:59] there as well and we work with them for
[7:02] recovery of donation like tissue and
[7:04] organ donation as well. So their flag
[7:07] will be up there. The medical examiner's
[7:08] flag is up there as well.
[7:10] » Do you have any questions?
[7:12] » Do you have any questions?
[7:15] How is it I mean how's it going like
[7:17] logistically and stuff now because
[7:19] that's 60 deaths that's two per day
[7:22] basically but what uh how is that
[7:24] working for you for I mean I'm sure you
[7:28] don't I don't know if you have to go to
[7:30] each one or or or how you handle that
[7:32] but
[7:33] » So no we don't need to go to each one a
[7:35] lot of the deaths that we do receive are
[7:37] hospice tests and they become medical
[7:39] examiner cases when they become a
[7:41] cremation um if they're signed if there
[7:44] is no injury and they're being buried,
[7:46] we don't get involved. We recommend the
[7:48] physician take care of that death.
[7:50] » Um, so the 61 deaths are the ones that
[7:52] we actually physically touched. I don't
[7:54] know how many of those were hospice. Um,
[7:58] but I would say at least 50% if not
[8:00] more. Um, and that's between all three
[8:03] counties. Um, it's working out well with
[8:06] my deputies. they are enjoying the extra
[8:09] work because obviously with only
[8:10] Marquette and Wera we did have the
[8:13] deaths but we didn't have as many so
[8:16] they were you know we had to you know
[8:18] create things for them to do and and
[8:20] busy their time which now we have all
[8:23] that plus the desk and they are knowing
[8:25] that they are going to get out there and
[8:27] they're going to learn they're going to
[8:28] put their techniques and whatever they
[8:30] have learned in school or for me to use
[8:33] so they are very I have a very happy
[8:35] staff right
[8:36] So that's good to know.
[8:39] » Yes.
[8:40] » Good.
[8:41] Thank you.
[8:44] » Okay. Um there's no unfinished business
[8:47] or new business. So we'll move then.
[8:53] » So I'll just provide a few quick updates
[8:55] here um administratively. So I did email
[8:58] out the call volume uh for through the
[9:01] month of August. So Rob uh the chief
[9:03] from Marquette County has been assisting
[9:05] with running those reports for us. Um I
[9:08] did have a sit down meeting with our
[9:10] captains and just kind of ensured that
[9:12] things are delegated and um assisting
[9:15] where needed to ensure daily operations
[9:17] are continuing there. Uh we do have a
[9:20] new deputy chief that's coming on board.
[9:22] Her name is Jessica Montgomery. She is
[9:23] starting at the end of this month
[9:25] September 28th. Um so we're very excited
[9:28] to bring her on board. Um, and we are
[9:32] continuing uh conversations with
[9:33] Marquette County. Um, I did, as
[9:36] requested from the last meeting, send
[9:37] out the staff survey to kind of gauge
[9:39] staff's input on a potential um,
[9:41] consolidation with Marquette. Marquette
[9:44] County also sent out the same survey.
[9:46] So, we're receiving responses back from
[9:48] that through this Friday. Um, so we'll
[9:50] get that information to you once that
[9:51] survey um, is completed. Um, and we do
[9:54] have Rob from Marquette County online
[9:56] uh, today as well. And then um under new
[10:00] business we'll be looking at um cons
[10:03] excuse me the consultant um for the EMS
[10:07] consolidation.
[10:09] » Okay, sounds good. Any any questions on
[10:13] that? All right, so there is no
[10:15] unfinished business. Let's move into new
[10:17] business. Uh discussion possible action
[10:19] on EMS consultant for evaluation of
[10:22] consolidation.
[10:24] Um so Dana um is online with us as well
[10:29] from strategic management and
[10:31] consulting. Um so Dana has put a
[10:33] proposal together for us on what it
[10:35] would look like to uh do an evaluation
[10:39] of the pros and cons for doing a
[10:42] consolidated service with Marquette
[10:44] County. I emailed out the proposal um
[10:47] earlier this morning. Um, so I'm not
[10:49] sure if you've had a a chance to review
[10:51] that. Um, but Dana, would you want to
[10:55] chime in on just kind of a brief
[10:57] overview of what we'd be looking at for
[10:59] consulting services with you?
[11:02] » Uh, good afternoon. Uh, thanks for the
[11:04] opportunity to speak to the group. Um,
[11:07] my name is Dana Seckler and I've been
[11:09] involved in uh, EMS for about 35 years
[11:13] now. Uh the other person that will be um
[11:17] coming in to assist is Dan Williams. Uh
[11:21] some of you may know uh Dan. He's been
[11:23] involved in EMS and fire for closer to
[11:26] 45 or 46 years now. Um both of us have
[11:30] the opportunity to work at the state uh
[11:33] EMS office as part of the regulatory
[11:36] agency. So we're certainly well aware of
[11:38] a lot of the nuances associated uh with
[11:41] EMS and running services. Um Dan was
[11:45] also the service director that
[11:46] [clears throat] helped to start up uh
[11:48] Door County uh many many many years ago.
[11:51] Uh so he's got uh quite a bit of
[11:53] experience with that as well. So between
[11:55] the two of us, we would be looking at uh
[11:57] the options that uh you have with u the
[12:00] current model that you have with Wera
[12:02] County EMS as well as the option of uh
[12:05] merging or bringing the two uh groups
[12:08] from Wera County EMS and Marquette
[12:10] County EMS together.
[12:13] Um, last year I also had the opportunity
[12:15] to work with a number of entities on
[12:17] helping them with their innovation
[12:20] planning grant. I heard that already
[12:21] mentioned and uh, congratulations to
[12:24] Wera County for the grants that you guys
[12:26] did get. uh there's going to be that
[12:28] next round coming up of which there's
[12:30] still quite a bit of funding available
[12:33] and uh we believe that uh if you were to
[12:36] pursue uh that option uh that would
[12:39] certainly be one of the uh parameters
[12:42] that would make you eligible to apply
[12:44] for this as well. So, we'll be able to
[12:46] bring in to you as a final report the
[12:49] pros and the cons of um
[12:53] developing a new regional system as well
[12:56] as how that would uh be a benefit um if
[13:00] you wanted to look at the innovation
[13:02] grant as well. So, um we can
[13:06] [clears throat] certainly answer any
[13:06] questions that you have now or go
[13:09] through any part of the proposal that
[13:11] you would like to.
[13:12] » Does anybody have any questions for
[13:14] Dana?
[13:16] want to check in on on timeline wise.
[13:18] Dana, we had talked that a final report
[13:20] could be available sometime maybe mid
[13:23] November.
[13:25] » Yes.
[13:26] » Okay.
[13:26] » We're we're trying to get it done as
[13:28] quick as possible. Uh that's so it gives
[13:30] you all the information that you have
[13:32] without rushing through but to get it
[13:34] done in a timely fashion so that you
[13:36] could be eligible for this this the uh
[13:38] first phase of the second round of the
[13:40] innovation grant.
[13:41] » Sure. And then um I if the committee
[13:45] decides to go forward with the
[13:46] consulting services, it'd be something
[13:48] that would be started right away or is
[13:50] there a timeline for starting?
[13:55] » Is that question to me?
[13:57] » Yes.
[13:57] » Yes,
[13:58] » We could start right away.
[13:59] » Okay, thank you.
[14:00] » And that would be I spoke to Megan that
[14:03] be a joint effort between us and
[14:06] Marquette County.
[14:06] » Yep. So it would be cost shared between
[14:08] the two counties.
[14:11] So the total cost would be shared.
[14:13] » Correct.
[14:15] » Does anybody else have any?
[14:18] » Any questions?
[14:21] » Are they agreeing to uh the third half
[14:24] or we just kind of assuming they are?
[14:25] » No, they've agreed to it.
[14:31] » Okay.
[14:32] » All right. Well, thank you, Dana. Um
[14:35] with that then I would look for um any
[14:39] in a motion to um to move forward with a
[14:42] consulting for evaluation of the EMS
[14:46] between Sher County and Marquette County
[14:49] or look at the look at our system we
[14:52] have now or else look at the um joining
[14:56] together with Marquette County. So is
[14:58] there a motion
[15:01] for the consultation?
[15:03] » Uh Mr. chairman. Motion to approve.
[15:06] » Okay. So, we have a motion uh by Urban.
[15:09] Is there a second?
[15:12] » Sec. Second by Johnson. Um is there any
[15:15] discussion?
[15:16] Anybody have any concerns?
[15:20] » Um I guess I'm I'm I'd like to feel the
[15:24] committee out on on what everybody is
[15:27] really thinking about the future of EMS.
[15:29] Um, and I'm only asking this because
[15:32] I've had some discussion with some of
[15:34] the the people that I serve um over in
[15:36] my area, especially uh uh yesterday I
[15:39] was in the town of Bloomfield's um uh
[15:42] town town meeting uh last night for
[15:46] theirs and I just was updating them on
[15:48] some of the county things that I do
[15:49] because they're long ways away from my
[15:52] own salation.
[15:55] I told him about um what we were doing
[15:58] with EMS service and and I got I got
[16:02] deep concerns um especially from the
[16:04] town chair over there um
[16:08] making sure that um we don't open a door
[16:13] that the devil is standing behind, you
[16:15] know, um and go someplace
[16:18] and make some mistakes that we can't
[16:20] turn to back on. um uh the people over
[16:23] in in that part of the county are very
[16:25] thankful for the MS service that we have
[16:28] and and really do not want us to to make
[16:31] a mistake on this. So, I just wanted to
[16:33] express that to the committee that that
[16:35] the people that I've been talking to um
[16:38] are concerned that they are concerned to
[16:40] make sure that we make the right
[16:41] decision in this. So, I just wanted to
[16:44] share that with the committee.
[16:46] I agree with you. I mean, that's what
[16:48] I've been getting too is um people are
[16:51] cautious because we do have quitting EMS
[16:54] in our county. Um but I guess what I'm
[16:57] looking at with the with the
[16:59] consultation is is um looking at doing
[17:02] our due diligence on something like
[17:04] that. That's I guess where I I feel it's
[17:06] it's um
[17:09] you know there's enough enough unknowns
[17:11] that I think we owe it to ourselves and
[17:16] to the county to to evaluate it. Um but
[17:20] I mean that's that's what I'm getting as
[17:22] well is that uh
[17:26] they they like our service now. They
[17:28] don't they don't want to see it uh um
[17:31] become something it's you know something
[17:32] worse. Well, I think that's the whole
[17:34] purpose of the uh of this of the study
[17:37] here
[17:38] » Uh for the consultation so that we do do
[17:42] our due diligence and that um it's not a
[17:45] just because we're going to do this.
[17:46] It's not a foregone conclusion that
[17:47] we're going to go down that path and
[17:49] that's the whole point of it just to
[17:50] make sure that we're going down the the
[17:52] best path for era.
[17:54] Yeah, I think last thing is too um and
[17:59] you mentioned everything I know which is
[18:01] not a lot about our EMS uh services is
[18:05] that we're uh as as a county we're very
[18:09] efficient and effective in our services
[18:11] that we provide. Um, and so I wanted to
[18:15] be very careful about our messaging last
[18:18] night uh to the gallery that was here
[18:21] and to every EMS provider
[18:24] [clears throat]
[18:24] or employee um that there's nothing
[18:30] wrong with the current state of our EMS,
[18:33] but what we're what we shouldn't do is
[18:37] shut down and looking at being in a
[18:39] better position.
[18:41] And and that's where uh what Jason said,
[18:45] the consultation uh comes in and um and
[18:49] what we're hoping to get is not a
[18:51] prediction of the future, but a good
[18:54] idea of where we might be
[18:58] and giving us good information to make
[19:00] the best decision moving forward.
[19:05] » Okay.
[19:08] » I I had one thing if I don't if I can.
[19:10] Yeah.
[19:11] » Um just and I don't know if this is on
[19:14] the consultant part of it or not, but if
[19:18] they're consulting um finding out some
[19:21] of the questions that I've heard from
[19:23] the the EMR groups and and everything
[19:25] like that. One of them was um what's
[19:28] going to happen with EMRs with Washer
[19:31] County with county having EMRs but
[19:34] Marquette County not having EMRs? Is
[19:37] that going to change anything that way?
[19:40] just a question that that they have um
[19:43] with that and then the other one was um
[19:47] with our med control that we have in Wer
[19:50] County which he is here today Dr. Bas um
[19:55] what does that look like? I mean is it
[19:57] Bera do their own Marquette do their own
[19:59] or is it all one and how that would all
[20:02] [clears throat] um how that all would be
[20:04] because not just EMS uses med control
[20:08] but our EMRs use med control too and
[20:12] with having somebody within the county
[20:14] that does it it makes it a lot easier
[20:17] and a lot more accessible to us to have
[20:19] that. So, I don't know what the
[20:21] discussions are on that, but them are
[20:22] just questions that I've that I've had
[20:24] and I don't know if anybody can answer
[20:25] it, but
[20:26] » Well, Dana, you've done some of these
[20:28] before. Is that something you take into
[20:31] account as well?
[20:32] » Yeah. Yes. Great questions and that's
[20:35] absolutely something we take into place
[20:37] and many many other places we're
[20:39] concerned about uh EMRs or emergency
[20:42] medical responders. Uh and just to let
[20:44] you know, we in every study that we've
[20:47] done, in every project we've worked on,
[20:48] we have always recommended to work with
[20:52] and enhance the relationship with EMR
[20:54] groups. Uh we have never once
[20:57] recommended uh to do away with them. Uh
[21:00] they are they provide an invaluable
[21:03] service to all their communities. Uh in
[21:07] fact and and we don't know all the
[21:09] nuances between Wer County and Marquette
[21:11] County. Uh but I would predict that we
[21:15] would uh still support uh the EMR
[21:18] services as well as say what can you do
[21:19] to enhance it and even um if it's not
[21:23] existent in Marquette County, here's
[21:25] some ideas on what you could do to um
[21:28] enhance that service or provide that
[21:29] service in Marquette County as well. As
[21:33] far as medical direction, that's a a
[21:34] very good point as well.
[21:36] You don't want to split up medical
[21:38] direction uh between two different
[21:40] entities. Uh so if you uh again we're
[21:44] very cautious to say if you decide
[21:46] because there have been no decisions
[21:47] made yet uh if there's a decide uh
[21:50] decision for any merger between the
[21:52] groups um you know the recommendation
[21:55] will always be that you have a medical
[21:57] director or a co-med director um for the
[22:01] ambulance service that is the same as
[22:03] the EMR agencies. uh if you get two
[22:06] different medical directors at two
[22:08] different um uh types of services, one
[22:11] transporting, one non-transporting, it
[22:13] it can cause some problems. Uh so we
[22:16] would always recommend maintaining uh
[22:19] either a single director or co-director
[22:22] uh of the transporting amount service as
[22:25] well as the non-transporting EMR
[22:27] agencies.
[22:31] » Very good. Um, and just just so we're uh
[22:35] we all know what we're voting for. So,
[22:38] they're going to be looking at our EMS
[22:40] as a standalone EMS and they're also
[22:43] going to look at potential of um joining
[22:46] us with Marquette. So, it's not just
[22:48] just the second one and we both on their
[22:51] own. So, um with that, is there any
[22:54] other discussion
[22:59] here? Do you mind if I uh pipe in? This
[23:01] is Rob from Marquette County.
[23:02] » Yes. Go ahead, Rob.
[23:04] » So, I just want to clarify, we do work
[23:06] with uh EMR groups. Uh we have five EMR
[23:09] groups um that are currently licensed um
[23:11] as EMRs under Marquette County's uh
[23:13] medical direction. Um we have
[23:15] Briggsville, Endeavor, uh Springfield,
[23:17] Harrisville,
[23:19] um and uh Newton. So, we do have uh
[23:22] several uh first responder groups that
[23:24] are affiliated with our service.
[23:28] Okay.
[23:28] » All right. Very good. Thank you.
[23:31] Um is there any other discussion from
[23:33] anybody?
[23:36] Okay. Uh hearing none then we'll proceed
[23:38] to vote. Um all in favor of um hiring a
[23:42] consultant and uh this group with in
[23:46] this uh consultation along with
[23:49] Marquette County uh signify by saying I
[23:53] oppose. All right. So that passes. All
[23:56] right. Thank you.
[23:58] All right. So then we'll move on to the
[24:01] command and communications report.
[24:04] » All right. The um for committees we have
[24:07] an EMPG work group for the state.
[24:09] Everything's been pushed through. The
[24:10] notice of funding came through for 2026
[24:12] and 2027 will be rolled out shortly. Um
[24:15] that's been applied for and I'm assuming
[24:18] all goes well. We'll get that grant
[24:20] again
[24:24] grant submitted again that we've gotten
[24:28] assuming we'll be again this year for 20
[24:31] or I'm sorry for 2027.
[24:33] Uh continue to update policy and the SOP
[24:35] SOGS for the communication center and um
[24:39] and I think I reported this last month
[24:40] but the strategic plan is complete and
[24:42] we're we're trying to follow or we are
[24:44] following that and I'll I'll update that
[24:46] in just a second. uh upcoming trainings.
[24:48] I have a mass casualty incident
[24:50] responder training. We did offer this in
[24:51] the spring and now we have another one
[24:53] coming up in November. This one's going
[24:54] to be held on on a Saturday to hopefully
[24:57] get some firefighters and EMRs through
[25:00] attend um that because it will be on a
[25:03] Saturday instead of a weekday. And then
[25:04] we have our practical application for
[25:06] incident command system, the basic
[25:08] course and that's in February and
[25:10] that'll be here at the government
[25:11] center.
[25:13] Uh general update, we did have um a
[25:16] tornado warning issued for Wera County
[25:19] on August 18th.
[25:21] This radar indicated it actually never
[25:23] touched down. We did have some sheer
[25:25] winds that came with that and it
[25:27] affected some of the towns in our in our
[25:30] county. I'm working with those towns to
[25:31] get some numbers to see if we can
[25:33] qualify for the Wisconsin disaster fund
[25:36] and hopefully get some of those costs
[25:38] recouped. It's recouped back at 70%. So
[25:40] it wouldn't it wouldn't um pay them in
[25:42] full, but it would get get those towns
[25:44] some money for the debris clean up and
[25:46] any [clears throat] any other damages
[25:48] they had. Um I just want to note that
[25:51] dispatch had hundreds of calls during
[25:54] that storm and they did a fantastic job
[25:56] at logging everything and and getting
[25:59] responders to the right areas and
[26:02] power lines down everywhere. It was it
[26:04] was really good. They kept track of
[26:05] everything. They got us all on track and
[26:06] kept us going where we needed to go. So,
[26:08] I I wanted to commend them like publicly
[26:11] like this to say they did an excellent
[26:12] job. On the next couple pages, you'll
[26:15] see where I'm at for budget wise. You'll
[26:18] the first one you'll see his emergency
[26:20] managements.
[26:22] Everything's on track there. Doesn't put
[26:24] anything out of the ordinary. You'll see
[26:26] the highlighted areas. Those are the
[26:27] grants that come in. Those will be
[26:30] reimbured
[26:31] February, March, we're hoping um April
[26:35] at the latest. Um, so that's just
[26:37] anticipated money coming in. They have
[26:38] been awarded, so I don't know why they
[26:40] wouldn't come in. The next page is our
[26:44] communications budget. Again, everything
[26:46] looks to be on track there. Nothing
[26:48] looks out of the ordinary. Um, and it
[26:50] appears that everything will be coming
[26:52] in wherever we want it.
[26:55] The uh the last page is our strategic
[26:58] plan, and I just wanted to highlight a
[27:00] few things on there. We are have our
[27:02] one-on- ones with our dispatchers over
[27:05] the next two weeks. Uh I did send out a
[27:08] kind of a premeating questionnaire for
[27:10] them so when we have the meetings are
[27:12] more productive
[27:14] get their needs met or at least hear
[27:16] their needs.
[27:18] Um that's all I have.
[27:21] Okay. Very good. Is there any questions
[27:23] for Alan?
[27:28] Uh there's no unfinished business. new
[27:30] business emergency management and
[27:32] communications um discussion hostile
[27:34] action onou with burning county.
[27:38] » So this uh this is just anou we wanted
[27:40] to put in place. Our current backup um
[27:43] to if our dispatch center ever went down
[27:44] is Green Lake County and that will
[27:46] remain the same. They're our first
[27:48] choice. The second choice would be
[27:49] regionally if something happened in Wer
[27:52] County it could affect Green Lake County
[27:53] as well. So that's if both PAPs went
[27:55] down, then we'd reach out to Vernon
[27:57] County to be our kind of our backup to
[27:59] the backup. They're a few counties away,
[28:01] so we would think they wouldn't be as
[28:04] affected as we are or Green Lake County.
[28:06] Um, so that was kind of Vernon County
[28:08] originally reached out and we thought
[28:09] it'd be a great idea to also do the same
[28:12] and have them be our backup to the
[28:13] backup. So
[28:17] » All right, sounds good. Um, would anyone
[28:20] want to make a motion that we go ahead
[28:22] with?
[28:26] Motion by Peterman. Second.
[28:31] Second by Peterson. Any discussion? Any
[28:34] questions? Okay. Hearing none. All in
[28:36] favor?
[28:38] » Oppos? Right. So, that passes. All
[28:40] right. Very good. We'll move then into
[28:42] the sheriff's report
[28:47] center numbers.
[28:49] In August we had 11 false alarms.
[28:56] Um 16 outer county transports
[29:00] and an average of 430 people came
[29:04] through a day in August.
[29:08] » Very good.
[29:10] Uh,
[29:14] » Good evening. [clears throat] Uh,
[29:15] speaking out jail, uh, we have kept an
[29:18] average population of about 83 84. Uh,
[29:23] that population with, uh, approximately
[29:26] eight on the EMP services that we
[29:29] provide along with the 25 state inmates
[29:33] um, has held us in and around that 80 to
[29:36] 90 number total. Um as you can see in
[29:39] the flyer I gave that PPE and has
[29:43] provided that we do have the 25 state
[29:47] inmates which provide the total amount
[29:50] there for that income um along with the
[29:53] food and medical services that we have
[29:55] to provide um knocks us into that net
[29:58] balance of about the 35 and a half. Um
[30:03] along with that uh we have been working
[30:05] on a remodel for the jail. Um that is
[30:09] for both of our control rooms and at
[30:11] some point the the break room as well uh
[30:14] to better provide more efficient work
[30:18] space. Um we are
[30:22] approximately twothirds of the way
[30:23] through it. Um all the carpeting is in.
[30:26] Uh housing control is essentially up and
[30:29] running. Master Control just got
[30:31] furniture today. Uh Ashton was gracious
[30:34] enough to come over and help move some
[30:36] stuff around to make it more efficient.
[30:39] Um we still have some minor tweaks to
[30:42] do, but uh should be up and running
[30:44] fully short.
[30:46] » Okay, any questions? Um with the uh
[30:50] state in
[30:52] um the income and the food and medical
[30:56] are for constructors is that assumed
[30:59] that there wasn't much turnover as far
[31:02] as in state out.
[31:05] » Yes, that's correct. Uh we've held the
[31:07] 25 uh for the last uh two months. We are
[31:11] now starting to get into the point where
[31:13] rotation comes through. Um, and it's
[31:16] roughly 6 months for the females from
[31:18] TCI and about 9 months for the DPS. Um,
[31:24] that being said, we're starting to hit
[31:26] the turnover points for all the ones
[31:27] that we have. So, we will start probably
[31:30] seeing fluctuation in those numbers. Um,
[31:33] it is more dependent on them and how
[31:35] they transport. Uh currently we actually
[31:38] have 24 um due to a medical uh event
[31:42] with one of the females that was coming
[31:44] from T. So we ended up short. If I don't
[31:47] hear back anything about the new
[31:49] transport, uh I will be reaching out I
[31:52] believe Friday to try and evaluate where
[31:54] we are and see about getting a new
[31:56] transport in.
[31:58] » Thank you.
[32:01] I have another question. Any discussion
[32:04] about more inmates
[32:08] at 25? You good at 25?
[32:12] » We discussed that with um Megan a couple
[32:15] days ago or maybe it was yesterday. I
[32:16] try yesterday. So something we uh
[32:19] something we're discussing uh there's if
[32:22] you note on the
[32:25] on the financials there, there is a
[32:26] sweet spot that we like to be at. Um
[32:29] it's one of those things like if we get
[32:30] if we're approaching the 95 to 100 uh
[32:33] because our contracts
[32:37] 85 um when we exceed that we start
[32:39] getting dinged for extra charges. So
[32:41] then actually by taking more we're
[32:44] actually making less. So we could take
[32:46] another we could technically take
[32:48] another five from uh the state that
[32:50] would bring us in more revenue but we're
[32:52] going to get dinged on the backside on
[32:54] it. So, I really it's one of those
[32:57] things where I'm really watching it and
[32:59] uh there's potential [clears throat] for
[33:00] it because we discussed it. Uh we we
[33:02] have room uh but it just is going to if
[33:06] it's worth doing or not on the bottom
[33:09] line.
[33:12] » Any other questions?
[33:14] » Right.
[33:16] I have a lot. Okay.
[33:19] » Guess I have any place to go. I'm sorry.
[33:21] Um first of all on the financials
[33:24] just just so we're aware and I just
[33:25] verified it. Um it does say May 2026,
[33:29] but it's not May 2026. It's August. I
[33:32] would have a heart attack as you guys
[33:33] probably would too. Um that was only the
[33:36] the funds in May. But uh we're looking
[33:38] good through um through our numbers
[33:40] there for today. Is there any questions
[33:43] on that?
[33:49] Not I'll move on um patrol side. We have
[33:53] three recruits graduating in
[33:55] approximately a month uh from academy.
[33:58] They're all doing really well scoring in
[34:00] 90s in their writtens. I think they're
[34:04] through phase two in their writtens.
[34:05] There's three phases. So they have one
[34:07] more written. They all passed their
[34:09] final physical tests with flying colors.
[34:13] So, um, a good group coming through
[34:16] and again in October when they graduate
[34:18] a couple days later, we'll start them
[34:19] all on field training. Currently have
[34:23] Ron Pi in field training. Been field
[34:25] training for around three weeks now.
[34:26] He's doing very well.
[34:29] And again, he's he's a he's a little bit
[34:31] different creature because he's been
[34:32] here 30 years. So, it's a little bit
[34:34] smoother transition for him.
[34:39] patrol as a whole has been very busy
[34:41] with OWIs and crashes. Uh we've had a
[34:43] lot of crashes, a lot of OWI, a lot of
[34:45] drugs. Uh just the last few weeks, a lot
[34:47] of referrals to the DA
[34:50] and uh again, we're still short staffed
[34:52] there. So, they're all they're all uh
[34:54] working a lot of extra hours, but we're
[34:57] covering shifts and and uh have some
[34:59] good things happening. So, regards to
[35:02] vehicles, talked to Megan yesterday on
[35:04] that. We've had we've had a poor week on
[35:06] vehicles. Um, both of my I I have a
[35:09] couple high mile vehicles. Uh, one has
[35:11] issues. Uh, the other one
[35:13] probably has a uh going to be a blown
[35:15] engine. Uh, good news with that I found
[35:18] out today that I've been working on.
[35:20] Hopefully, one of the the engine issues
[35:22] is going to be covered under um
[35:25] basically under under a warranty that
[35:27] they have for for a recall. So, that
[35:30] would be great news because that's
[35:32] probably about eight $9,000.
[35:35] So, um, we're going to find out on that,
[35:37] but the the preliminary is that we're
[35:39] going to hope to get a new engine out of
[35:41] it without a whole lot of cost.
[35:43] Detective Bureau, um, very busy.
[35:46] Obviously, you guys are aware we've had
[35:48] multiple homicides.
[35:50] Those will continue to be busy all the
[35:52] way up through
[35:55] basically through court. Uh, court could
[35:57] be out two years on these. A lot of you
[35:59] have prelims, you have uh motion
[36:02] hearings.
[36:04] So there there's a lot of lot that go
[36:06] into those. Uh we just had a possible
[36:08] suicide missing person case yesterday
[36:11] where an individual didn't show up to a
[36:12] jury trial in Green Lake. Um so that's
[36:16] taking up a lot of time right now as
[36:18] well trying to figure out if that
[36:19] individual sconded and uh just decided
[36:23] not to show up and left or if he decided
[36:25] to harm himself.
[36:28] On a brighter note, back to school bash.
[36:30] Uh the stuff the squad actually turned
[36:34] out fairly well. I give credit to all
[36:36] the administrative staff, Darlene, uh
[36:39] Taylor and Caitlyn. They handled it and
[36:41] did it all. I helped pound a steak in.
[36:43] That was about it. Um but they crushed
[36:45] it. A lot of people dropped some
[36:48] supplies off that they'll be
[36:49] distributing there.
[36:51] So that was again a success this year.
[36:55] And then I was just uh asked to discuss
[36:57] block a little bit because I know that's
[36:59] been a hot topic. Um major major
[37:02] discussion with uh a lot of agencies and
[37:04] a lot of uh
[37:07] a lot of communities in the area.
[37:09] Unfortunately, Wisconsin has seen a
[37:12] uptick. We're we're like the hot state
[37:15] right now. Much like Minnesota was the
[37:17] hot state for a lot of political
[37:19] activity, you know, a few years ago.
[37:21] We're also the the hot state for for
[37:23] this flock debate where um again
[37:27] unfortunately I think a lot of it has
[37:28] come down to being a lot of white noise
[37:30] and a lot of politics involved versus
[37:33] fact. Um just wanted to put it on record
[37:36] and and have everybody know. Um you know
[37:38] I we did a a joint statement with uh
[37:42] Chief Mott that was put in the Argus. Um
[37:45] I did post that to website as well uh on
[37:48] Jesse uh Urban's uh urging and and
[37:52] knowledge uh was able to uh do some
[37:54] things on our website uh to put some
[37:59] additional information as to the facts
[38:01] of block out there. Um so hopefully
[38:03] that's going to help with the community.
[38:06] I am a big proponent and I will always
[38:10] advocate for it and I will not back down
[38:12] advocating for it because I know it
[38:14] works and I know it has worked here and
[38:17] um it's helped an 8-year-old child come
[38:20] home that that uh was not sexually
[38:22] assaulted because of it that was states
[38:24] away in Oklahoma was found with flock.
[38:27] We found um elderly individuals with
[38:30] flock uh that were missing.
[38:33] If used correctly, it is a tool that
[38:37] again is is is unbelievable. I think
[38:39] I've talked to each one of you
[38:41] personally a little bit. Um I could go
[38:43] on and on and on for 30, 40, 50 minutes
[38:45] and hours actually. But um the issues
[38:50] that are out there that people are
[38:51] talking about, most of them again are
[38:53] not factual, which again the Argus
[38:55] article was not factual and was
[38:57] corrected. Uh there's anti-flock
[38:59] individuals that are are out there
[39:01] pushing the it's not constitutional
[39:04] um discussion.
[39:06] As of right now it is constitutional. So
[39:09] I I told everybody here and I I'll again
[39:12] stand by it. If it ever becomes
[39:14] unconstitutional and we have to pull
[39:16] them, we will obviously follow the law
[39:18] and pull them. Uh but I've been
[39:21] following the same case law as long as
[39:22] I've been in this business for 18 years
[39:24] now. um you're in the business before.
[39:28] Uh there's case law that we are allowed
[39:29] to run license plates to look for wanted
[39:32] subjects to look for people with um
[39:35] driving history. They're revoked,
[39:36] suspended. We can legally make stops on
[39:39] those. That's what's happening. That's
[39:41] the law. Um I've been
[39:45] my entire career. I run hundreds of them
[39:48] a night u visually um as we're driving
[39:52] as as a vehicle's driving by as I'm
[39:54] parked in in gas stations uh wherever we
[39:58] run those license plates and we find bad
[40:01] people that are in our community that
[40:02] need to go to jail. That law is not
[40:05] going to change. Again, there's there's
[40:07] case law out there. Ruth Ruth's aware of
[40:09] it. U we we have it's in the courts.
[40:12] It's it's solid. Um, just because a
[40:17] block camera is picking up that license
[40:19] plate now that we are able to run
[40:22] doesn't change things. It's the only
[40:25] thing that a camera is doing is picking
[40:26] up a license plate. It's not picking up
[40:29] human beings. It doesn't track human
[40:31] beings. Picks up license plates only.
[40:33] The rear of a car and a tag. And then in
[40:36] order for that tape to be run to get any
[40:38] personal information has to be run by a
[40:40] subject who has the authority to do it
[40:42] which are the cops that have authority
[40:44] through time systems or Stillman uh that
[40:48] then goes to the DOT and returns to the
[40:50] state. So nothing has changed
[40:54] other than the white noise and the
[40:56] rhetoric that's out there right now.
[40:58] We've been running plates for years and
[41:01] years and years. Our vehicles have been
[41:04] running plates for years and years and
[41:06] years because we have license plate
[41:07] readers and vehicles.
[41:09] That that has not ever been an issue. Um
[41:13] there there's there's sheriffs out there
[41:15] right now that are
[41:19] upset because the politics are taking
[41:21] over and people are looking for votes,
[41:23] not the safety of the citizens. That's
[41:25] wrong.
[41:27] Um, I will advocate for it because
[41:29] again, it is something that
[41:32] » Unless you're doing something wrong,
[41:34] should have no issues with it.
[41:38] » Scott, just a quick question because
[41:40] I've been asked multiple times about
[41:44] slot cameras, my opinion, on and on, and
[41:48] I I hear the concerns coming from two
[41:51] avenues.
[41:52] Uh, the first one I can quickly put down
[41:55] because any um tool, any technology that
[42:00] law enforcement has to help them do
[42:02] their job is only as effective and as
[42:06] good as the policies and the people,
[42:08] right?
[42:09] » Um, and so, you know, so you get the
[42:11] concern of, you know, what if so and so
[42:13] is, you know, an officer's stalking a
[42:16] girlfriend or whatever else, right?
[42:19] Um and that's but then the other concern
[42:22] is uh flock as a corporation as an
[42:26] entity. Um that one I can't really speak
[42:29] to. I I don't know much about Sure. And
[42:33] I can give you good information on that.
[42:35] So you can go back to your constituents
[42:36] because that that's where that's where
[42:38] the the concerns really come out um that
[42:41] there's a lot of stuff floating around
[42:43] that's untrue. Um, first of all, uh,
[42:46] there there's there's two major players
[42:47] in the game right now. There's Flock and
[42:49] Axon. Okay, everybody's familiar with
[42:51] Axon, which is Motorola, which is a
[42:53] multi-billion billion dollar company,
[42:56] right? Flock right now dominates the um,
[43:00] the camera market right now for for this
[43:02] system. Axon is trying to get into the
[43:04] camera market as more as much as they
[43:07] can. um to to let you know that the
[43:11] individuals that are going away from
[43:13] flock, they're not going away from
[43:15] license plate readers. So, just so
[43:18] everybody's aware of that, there will
[43:20] always be a license plate reader as long
[43:22] as it's constitutional and it's legal.
[43:24] They're just going to a different
[43:25] company potentially because of the white
[43:27] noise out there. So,
[43:30] Axon is the other big player. They're
[43:33] reading like Manasha, Nina.
[43:34] » Yeah, just Nina Manasha. I saw the news
[43:37] today. They're doing away with flock and
[43:39] everybody's happy that with that but
[43:41] then quietly they say correct but we're
[43:43] replacing it with Axon.
[43:45] » Correct.
[43:46] » Axon uh has actually more AI features
[43:50] than Flock. Um the difference between
[43:55] the the the two companies Axon is an
[43:59] internal. So only your your like the
[44:03] sheriff's department say county
[44:04] sheriff's department will have the
[44:05] cameras only with sheriff county
[44:07] sheriff's department can access those
[44:08] cameras that defeats the purpose of most
[44:12] of this because we would have never
[44:14] found the girl in Oklahoma. It's the
[44:16] sharing that that allows that makes this
[44:18] thing such a beautiful thing between
[44:20] agencies. Um now is Axeline going to
[44:24] stay doing that? I don't believe they
[44:25] are. I believe soon as the white noise
[44:27] is over they're going to be flowing
[44:29] through this. um they actually have
[44:31] facial recognition built into their
[44:33] systems different than than we have with
[44:35] with Glock. Glock is not a facial
[44:37] recognition. These cameras are not
[44:40] there. There is certain cameras that
[44:41] Glock will sell um that do a facial
[44:45] recognition and are designed for parks
[44:47] and outdoor events, things like that. We
[44:49] don't have any of those. Ours are
[44:51] strictly license plate readers. So yes
[44:53] um there there is
[44:57] you know this poll of you know what are
[44:58] the differences in the companies um the
[45:02] the concern with FL that there was
[45:04] something going out there that they're
[45:05] selling our data [clears throat] that we
[45:07] have that is false um all of our data is
[45:10] encrypted um from the camera up to the
[45:13] cloud it stays in the cloud encrypted
[45:14] and it only comes down it's retrieved by
[45:16] us um they are not selling it to anybody
[45:19] can sell it to anybody not contractual
[45:22] uh the information that it was being
[45:24] sold to somebody
[45:26] is because and this is where this is
[45:29] where the facts come in. The company
[45:31] itself has an agreement uh with
[45:36] researchers
[45:38] um to use our data that we can you that
[45:42] can be used to help assist in
[45:45] identifying future cars. So, u like like
[45:50] uh Tesla
[45:52] um or the Cybert truck. The Cybert truck
[45:53] is a great example. Cybertruck to took
[45:56] 200,000 pictures in order for flock to
[46:00] have a near 100%
[46:03] recognized
[46:04] system. So two it need 200,000 different
[46:08] photos from different angles, top,
[46:09] sides, corners, all around um distances
[46:14] in order for that to be put in block to
[46:17] say, okay, if we put in we want a Cybert
[46:19] truck that's gray um in this model year
[46:23] that then when that returns to us, it's
[46:27] a it's a high probability that it's that
[46:28] vehicle. We still have to do our due
[46:30] diligence to find that out, okay? But
[46:32] they can't just put in their system, one
[46:35] picture of a cyber truck from one angle
[46:37] that they took off off either anywhere
[46:41] else and say it's going to be accurate.
[46:43] So it's not being sold outside to other
[46:47] firms to sell you things. Now that being
[46:49] said,
[46:51] all the AI that's everywhere else is
[46:53] being sold that everybody is is not
[46:56] worried about. Every time you go to
[46:58] Walmart, every time you go to Menard's,
[47:00] Home Depot, Lowe's, you go through the
[47:02] Lowe's parking lot, there's 500 blocks
[47:03] cameras parked in there. Same with same
[47:05] with Menards. Same with um Walmart. Now,
[47:09] when you go to Walmart, you go to
[47:10] Menards, those those places when they
[47:12] have cameras in there are actually
[47:14] capturing you. They're actually
[47:16] capturing you and capturing you swiping
[47:18] your credit card. So, they know who you
[47:19] are. They identify you as a person. and
[47:22] then they can send you coupons as to
[47:25] what you're buying because they know
[47:26] what you're buying. So, we want to talk
[47:27] about invasion of privacy and concerns
[47:30] and not being unconstitutional.
[47:32] That that is a privacy issue. Okay? Our
[47:36] cameras take pictures of your license
[47:37] plate just like my eyes do when I'm
[47:39] sitting out there watching the cars come
[47:41] by or going through a parking lot. I I
[47:44] take a mental picture of all your
[47:45] license plates. The only thing we're
[47:46] doing is we're helping basically making
[47:49] a deterrent to the county. don't come
[47:52] here and commit crimes because if you do
[47:54] we have a way to find you.
[47:57] So, um t you know it's it's it's
[48:01] basically right now to be honest with
[48:02] you it's politics and it's a fight over
[48:05] two giants that are trying to be number
[48:07] one and there's stuff that's being spun
[48:09] out there that isn't true. Uh when you
[48:11] learn the facts,
[48:13] you know, it's it's very frustrating to
[48:15] see what's happening. Um the the there's
[48:18] there's things called a penetration test
[48:20] just so everybody's aware too. And I'm
[48:21] going to throw this out here. Flack
[48:24] flack camera system uses a company
[48:27] called Bishop Fox.
[48:30] 26 out of the out of the 100 top 100
[48:34] companies uses Bishop Fox. Eight out of
[48:37] 10 of the top tech companies uses Bishop
[48:40] Fox. What Bishop Fox is, it's a
[48:42] penetration company. Their whole job is
[48:45] to try to
[48:47] break down these system to try to find
[48:50] to basically try to break into them and
[48:52] pull data.
[48:54] So Flock hire them and uses them to make
[48:57] sure that their data is secure.
[49:00] So
[49:02] the biggest issue here guys, I'm going
[49:04] be I mean quite frank is is there there
[49:06] are some agencies out there that are
[49:09] probably loose in their policy and
[49:11] that's an issue that's issue that the
[49:13] sheriffs are having um and that maybe
[49:15] some of the states are having. It's not
[49:19] the technology itself. The techn is
[49:21] fantastic. It's it's the individuals
[49:24] that are using it and and not
[49:25] controlling [clears throat] it.
[49:27] uh if you put the controls on it like we
[49:29] have with policy with audits
[49:32] uh I audit it once a month every month
[49:35] and or more if there would be an issue
[49:38] it's also internally audited which um
[49:41] right now is one of the few or the only
[49:44] that has an AI generated internal audit
[49:46] system too that looks for
[49:50] activity from individuals that might be
[49:53] something they shouldn't be doing. So,
[49:55] their system actually looks for that,
[49:56] notifies me if there's somebody that
[49:58] would be doing something. Um, I require
[50:01] all cases to have a case number, uh, to
[50:05] have a reason why you're doing it and to
[50:07] be attached to a case. So, any anytime
[50:10] any license plate is ran through the
[50:13] system, we have a case that is pulled
[50:15] through Stillman that documents what
[50:17] we're doing. It's not just you're not
[50:19] going to sit there and you're going to
[50:20] run 500 plates through the system a
[50:22] night. has to be for drugs, for missing
[50:25] person, suicide, any of these things.
[50:27] And then it has to have a case attached
[50:29] to it. So, it's it's very well reigned
[50:32] in, it's very well restricted. I also
[50:34] restrict and control who can see our
[50:36] plates. So, I don't allow out of state.
[50:40] And I right now have it set up for 100
[50:41] mile radius for acceptance. If you want
[50:44] to be accepted, you're outside of our
[50:46] 100 mile radius. You have to send a
[50:47] request to me. I review it to see why
[50:50] what we're doing and then I can accept
[50:52] or reject it. I've had requests from
[50:54] Colorado. I've had requests from
[50:56] Florida. I no I mean we're rejecting
[50:58] those. There's no reason for somebody
[51:00] Florida needs to be looking at license
[51:01] plates from Sher County. Okay. But our
[51:04] surrounding communities definitely do
[51:05] because they have the same bad actors
[51:07] that we have in our in our community.
[51:14] » Very good. Thank you, Scott. Appreciate
[51:16] that. Can I ask you a question? Sure. Go
[51:17] ahead.
[51:17] » Uh, so say say you had a deputy that was
[51:22] misusing the flot system, what what
[51:25] would the disciplinary action be in a
[51:28] case like that?
[51:29] » I guess it would obviously depend on it,
[51:31] but you've seen in the news what's going
[51:32] to probably happen to most of these. Um,
[51:36] my my again, it's up to the sheriff
[51:39] because I'm I'm not in control. my
[51:41] personal opinion, if you're misusing FL
[51:43] with all the the individuals that we
[51:45] have for all the things that are going
[51:47] on right now, um you're not going to be
[51:49] here anymore.
[51:53] » And I think there's no reason for that.
[51:55] Uh and again, and it can be criminal.
[51:58] So, not only can it be a policy internal
[52:01] violation where you would be terminated
[52:03] from our department, they're all aware
[52:05] of that. They're all aware that I
[52:06] monitor it. Um, it records the
[52:10] individual that's doing it, the date and
[52:11] time, again, the case numbers. If if
[52:14] there's any discrepancies there, they
[52:16] all are very aware that they are not
[52:18] going to have a job in Masher County.
[52:20] And depending on the circumstances, they
[52:22] can also be charged criminally.
[52:25] I think too, we got to look at it like
[52:28] like George said, it's another tool in
[52:30] the toolbox. And in your profession,
[52:32] there's there's many tools that you use
[52:35] from vehicles to weapons to there's a
[52:37] lot of tool tools that you're
[52:40] responsible for. And so I think it
[52:42] probably stands to reason with any one
[52:44] of those would be kind of the same.
[52:46] » That's the issue. And that's, you know,
[52:48] we're picking on flock right now because
[52:49] again, I think a lot of it politics and
[52:51] financial. The reality is I I I can give
[52:55] you another 12 different tools that we
[52:56] have that are way more invasive than a
[52:59] block
[53:00] that I can I can find I know everything
[53:04] about you guys to the day you were born
[53:07] » Secret
[53:11] use of resources too because I mean you
[53:14] couldn't have you couldn't put enough uh
[53:16] deputies on the streets to cover the
[53:18] areas that FL currently covers which are
[53:21] essentially doing the same Okay. For
[53:22] just another set of eyes, correct for
[53:24] for
[53:26] » Roughly 3,000 a unit right now. Uh if we
[53:28] have eight units out there, you have
[53:30] eight other deputies out there. Uh and
[53:32] and again, it's it's already proven.
[53:34] Chief Mott's very adamant about um
[53:39] about having it and keeping it. Um we we
[53:42] both are uh we've both seen it work. Uh
[53:45] and again, I
[53:47] I I struggle with with those that don't.
[53:49] I always say, you know, if you have a
[53:51] missing child, you have a missing parent
[53:54] and and you come to us and we say, well,
[53:56] you know, I don't know, they went that
[53:58] way. Maybe I it's very difficult. We
[54:01] have a we have a tool right now that we
[54:03] can pinpoint it. Um they they took an
[54:05] individual in the city of Pan on on
[54:09] was wanted for homicide. Uh dinged on
[54:13] dinged on a plot camera come through the
[54:14] city and and mailed him to the home and
[54:16] he's sitting in jail right now. didn't
[54:18] have that flat camera, everyone would
[54:19] have them. Those people come and go. You
[54:22] can only do so much with your own eyes.
[54:24] I tried to do as many as I could at
[54:26] night. I, like I said, I run hundreds.
[54:27] As I got older, it got more difficult
[54:29] with my eyes. But, uh, and they got
[54:31] faster for some reason.
[54:34] So, but but the plates can pick up, you
[54:36] know, these these readers can pick up
[54:38] plate after plate after plate. They
[54:39] don't get tired like a human does. So,
[54:45] [snorts]
[54:45] » Thank you very much. appreciate that
[54:48] update on that. So, uh, is there any
[54:50] other questions on on any of it? Now, I
[54:53] I just wanted to go back to you said,
[54:55] uh, you have some patrol officers that
[54:58] are are graduating. Will that mean that
[55:00] your detective squad will get some new
[55:05] will some people move into that area
[55:07] then? And
[55:09] » Difficulty is
[55:10] » Not difficulty, but you have four months
[55:12] in academy and then after that you have
[55:14] four months of field training. Okay. So,
[55:16] even though we're bringing them in in
[55:17] October, we're not going to see a real
[55:20] push into helping us out into probably
[55:22] January, February of next year. Uh,
[55:24] [snorts] and then as things come because
[55:26] it's cyclical, we also have some
[55:28] retirements. The sheriff is not is not
[55:30] uh obviously going to be back. Uh, and
[55:32] we have some other retirements. So, we
[55:33] will have some openings. I have Deb
[55:36] working on posting those openings. So,
[55:38] we're actually start again
[55:40] [clears throat] hiring process to to
[55:41] bring some more people in. Um hopefully
[55:44] with uh the direction we're going now,
[55:47] we'll attract some people that already
[55:49] are in the business that we can bring in
[55:51] and start uh in, you know, fairly quick
[55:54] versus having to send through academy
[55:55] and that eight-month process.
[55:57] » Sure. Okay. Thank you very much. Um
[56:02] strategic plan progress updates
[56:06] » Any we we had some Alen had one there. I
[56:10] don't know you guys have any updates on
[56:11] yours at this
[56:12] » Point. We we uh completed our strate
[56:16] strategic plan um implemented
[56:18] everything. So uh basically what we're
[56:20] doing is we're going to try to uh
[56:21] fine-tune it um make things better and
[56:24] and add some for this upcoming year.
[56:26] That's where we're at.
[56:27] » Right. Good. Any questions on that?
[56:31] » All right. Uh with that, we'll move into
[56:33] the 2027 budget budget discussion.
[56:40] I don't know who.
[56:41] » Yeah, I don't have anything to share. I
[56:43] think everybody shared theirs at the
[56:44] last meeting. Um they were presented
[56:47] last month. I think Amanda wasn't here,
[56:49] but she shared hers during her report.
[56:50] So unless you have any additional
[56:51] questions on that, I'm happy to update
[56:53] on that.
[56:54] » Does anybody have any questions?
[56:57] » You've seen any changes from last month
[56:59] with these departments? um
[57:01] » Worth talking about
[57:05] » More administratively like Amanda
[57:06] mentioned we um separated out some
[57:08] accounts um for medical examiner um from
[57:14] the EMS front um I don't know that there
[57:17] were any changes um one thing that we're
[57:19] looking at is keeping that levy flat
[57:21] there um so utilizing some of the fund
[57:25] balance towards their equipment
[57:27] purchases for 2027 we did the same thing
[57:30] in 202 26. Um we'll be taking a smaller
[57:32] amount from balance for the 2027 budget
[57:35] um to fund their monitors for next year.
[57:38] Um and then on the sheriff's department
[57:41] front, I think we added in the
[57:42] innovation grant um that we didn't have
[57:44] initially. Um there's we've had some
[57:47] discussion on some equipment for the
[57:49] jail that's needed. Um taking that out
[57:51] of the 2027 CIP and possibly doing an
[57:53] amendment to the 2026 to utilize some
[57:55] surplus from this year to purchase it
[57:57] this year instead. Um, but we're still
[57:59] kind of evaluating some of that.
[58:02] » Okay, sounds good. Any other any other
[58:06] questions on the budget?
[58:10] » All right, sounds good. With that, we're
[58:12] up to future suggested agenda items. Is
[58:15] there anybody have anything they would
[58:17] like to get on the agenda for another
[58:20] meeting?
[58:22] Okay, I'm not seeing any. I would look
[58:24] for a motion to adjourn.
[58:27] Motion motion by Peterson.
[58:31] Second by Peterman. We're journ.