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We'll be warning everybody. It is 9 o'clock on August 11, 9 o'clock in the morning. And so I'd like to call this meeting to order. And if we come to our agenda, which is the chat, some of you, if you need a copy of it, there's a packet here from the last, for this meeting. Okay, we'll just get free and get one.

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But I'd like to call this reading for order, and let's start by making introductions.

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Can you do roll call?

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Yeah, you need to establish that you have to call.

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I'm just going to do it.

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Roll call?

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Oh.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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We'll begin by calling the roll.

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We don't have time.

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Okay, let's go around the table from this side.

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Okay, okay.

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Let's go.

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All of the ground.

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We'll have to settle in.

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One, two, one.

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This is my first meeting.

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Gene's been alert.

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Pick me.

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And Rick Jacobs and also my first meeting.

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Okay, in fact, what I was going to do is,

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and you know, we haven't taken that.

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is let the audience know that we have two new members at this meeting.

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One that is in morning circles on my left,

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and then Ken Jacobson, Rick Jacobson, I'm sorry.

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So, very good.

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Well, welcome to the committee, glad to have you on board.

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Now, I'd like to do is have the counting,

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introduce, and so this will around the room

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and get basic introductions.

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right now at this point.

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Let's start with you Steve and you are a planning director?

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Sorry.

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Rosemary's small comb, Marcos Accounting District 1 Supervisor, which includes

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the community of Obama.

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Thank you.

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Danielle Bonch, you clerk of the board.

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And so I'm here today because we are going to start live streaming

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the meetings on the County website.

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We recently changed our agenda management system.

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And we now have capabilities. We didn't have prior to the beginning of June. So I'm here to kind of help set this up.

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So people can listen from the comfort of their home.

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And we also now have a calling line for you to call in and give your public comment.

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We are also recording it so it'll be available online moving forward.

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I'm Ben Goverberg, President County Housing Committee Development Specialist.

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One thing I would not comment to is Danielle,

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but this meeting will be keeping them in its also for this meeting

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as Gary is unable to attend today.

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And that is the county.

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Now, please, please, please,

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members of the audience, if you can hear this yourself

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as well.

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And we want to start with you to kind of work.

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We're keen if I could just interrupt.

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Danielle, do you want to talk about that?

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Yeah.

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So to make sure the audio is very clear, that microphone on the corner, if you guys could come up

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and give your name through it, my computer will pick up the sound in the room, but to ensure

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that your voices are clear in the recording and clear for anybody listening at home, we ask

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that you please speak into a microphone.

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Even for the introduction. Even for the

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The President, we inherit your resident?

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Yes.

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We inherit your resident?

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Dad and Dad fiscal residents.

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I'm Sandy.

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I'm Chuck Jones.

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It's one.

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I'm willing to rise deputy director of public workers.

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Sir, I'm sorry.

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Deputy director, cohort.

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I'm resident.

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It's solar now.

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I need to take leave.

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Residents on the south side.

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She needs to have a senior resident.

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I'm sure they can.

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I'm sure they can.

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now that will complete the introductions. Thank you all very much. The next item

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on the agenda is that I am over D, and that's public comment on none of the agenda items.

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And what this portion is really all about, is that some of you want to raise the views

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before the committee, and they have which are not on this agenda.

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You'll have an opportunity to talk to, address them, and that the committee cannot act on those

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But, however, the committee can take the information and decide later to incorporate them into an agenda in the agenda items for future leading.

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Basically, that's how that works.

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So, is there anybody here who has an element on items that are not on the agenda?

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But, they were right.

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like to take this opportunity to maybe introduce folks to the new agenda format.

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And the agenda format is driven by a specific policy that was adopted by the Nervous

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Board of Supervisors that governs all of our county advisory boards, commissions, and committees.

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And it is called the Post-Says Festifying Guidelines Procedures and Standing Rules for County Advisory Board's Commission and Committees.

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It is included in the agenda packet.

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And in that policy includes recommended format for the agenda for minutes and an oath of office where it's required and that I'm not remembering but we'll see it when we go through that policy later on.

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But the reason I wanted to mention it is that this agenda looks different.

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I suspect to those of you who have worked with the web packages in the past.

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And we're looking for input.

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Gina and I talked this through the agenda.

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We're four and a half minutes to end.

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And both of the office is where it's required.

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the guy named so bad how he said that we can but I'm not remembering that we see it when we go through the job policy and we can

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play along but the reason I want to mention it is that if you this agenda looks different I've

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suspended two months or you can have more for with what kind of what kind of

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The next meeting, then we'll make sure that we've got the right people in the future.

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We'll make sure that we've got the right people in the future.

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Any other comments?

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I am certain I'm not worried.

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The proportional people captures it must be something that is majoral.

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So if they had certain number of hands, if they had different hands,

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or if they had to make sure the weight coming out of each present and a few few few few few few.

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And we're unable to do that properly because these are community bands that are shared by everyone.

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A few few few and a few of the present we like.

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So that's not possible to do that system.

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So everybody will be using right hand same rate.

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I'm going to build properties and then we'll go through that.

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We just got our 14 properties that were paying.

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That's increased to these that are collected by 5,000 or 4,000.

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And we have system based on the catchups on the right hand.

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So we know what are having new properties you build and that's anything I do to do.

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And then this always inside the recitement system study, ongoing, looking for a find-of-file

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completion of September, we're just finishing up the analysis of the operations of the facility.

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But with that, there's an unknown of what the rate in recitementation will be, for the solid waste, natural, and the source rate.

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And that will affect the collection rates.

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And it will give that a little more later.

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So, primary objective is the implementation of a bare technical piece structure by efficient and reliable waste management services to the community while maintaining the district's financial stability.

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Again, those services are the brighter, the slower selection, through the ecology, tiny

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pickup, both get and drop off, and the administrative services, which is the building,

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the budget management, preparation budget, building with the ecology, and the franchise

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fees, or the franchise agreement to do that.

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All right, so the challenges to maintain that goal are the inflation, external costs,

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It's got very expensive, but we had the global wind event, and the still this year probably

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also got some impact.

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So that would be a pleasure to cost of making that project.

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The potential changes in service providers, and this is what we're also going to get, it's

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always steady.

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It's placing the franchise agreement for the county out the day.

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And then the secretization of waste collection service contracts, the park service, or the

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possession area for the park has a little contract with your college team.

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There's a separate contract for marijuana, and they're web for the rest of the county.

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And they're all expired every time.

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And what we're trying to do is sync those so you can leverage the ability to bid that process out.

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And we offer all those out.

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solutions and you'll place the factor of adjustments to the rate and that is unfortunately

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a line of fees or changes of fees for independent external services and what's which

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is in the project cost and short term service agreement.

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So, for right now with your apology, we're just pursuing one year agreements, trying to

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to think that. Otherwise, it's virus and joy.

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Locker, July 1st, renews, currently, it's currently expired with a new July. The French has been renewed in January every year, to year to year to year, and we are at six months notice of going to cancel it.

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So we have to do all this by following the proposition to a team process that process requires.

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We do a couple of notes, a million tall affected property owners be telling the purpose of

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operation that proposed fees are rich changes.

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The property owners have a 45-day period to submit written a protest and a protest

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or a seat for majority of affected property owners.

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The agency came up and posed our increase in fees.

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The protest must be submitted in writing, identified as affected property, and clearly indicate

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to the proposed fees.

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After the protest period ends,

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they seem to seem to know that it's a public hearing

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to consider the protest.

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They may make adjustments to the proposed fees

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for rich changes.

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They seem to be back to seeing that the agency

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perceived what the fees or rich changes

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they must adopt the resolution or it's deferring

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to the action taken by the public hearing.

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And the proposition to a human sure

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that local governments are transparent and cattle

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who implement new fees or increasing existing ones.

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get in proper order to save the decision making process.

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Sam, where are you, Wayne, Eric, you're, where are you in that process?

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We're at 30 again.

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We've got the public area.

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So, what I'm doing today is we're doing what I'd like to do to the feet.

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So this is how I would calculate the feet of the right formula.

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So, before we feed the base of that, so the R-C is a

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ecology collection element feed, that's what they charge for

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collection.

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That's what we're trying to come out, because the trash

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can transport the landfill, right?

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There's a disposal element, that's entirely based on the

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landfill of tipping feed.

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So, if the landfill tipping feed increases, that automatically

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increases the ecology's rate, and that's in their

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contract, right?

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The end is the cost of previous terms,

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So, basically, until it's fine, essentially, that $20,000, and we take a cover-and-pain

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new cost.

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And it was $15,000 if you would be adjusted to rebuild that $15,000 back at that point

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next year.

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All right.

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To view the cost, the previous door will both get on top of that, the administrative cost,

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It's a C-depth service, and currently zero, but you get that the plug is in to a negative

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balance between some raw funds that go across, that would be added to the G. And then the

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number of rate pairs at the time of calculation. So all that would be divided by that and

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divided by 40, and totally rate. All right. Do those fees are subject to the increase with 30

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needs notice? One would be from the CPI, so if we know that would be occurring, then we get 30

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notice that that we were called as black shell, and the other would be the disposal element

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feed, which would be the landfill feed increases, we don't find three days, how they

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would affect their overall rate.

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The reason for this is that the feeding increases of the landfill, the ecology increases

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their rate, and we don't have the increase of the collect, the feed, the supply of the

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It's a negative column.

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It's correct.

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What I would have to plan here.

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So first thing comes is finding a little bit, okay, pick up, there's possibly

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a little bit of that in the dark.

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But let's

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start with example calculation of what each thing would be on an annual basis, that

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then would calculate.

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So they'd come up to either 135 or six per quarter.

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That's just an example.

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Go ahead.

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So basically there's a budget that shows

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that balance was $5,300.

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Can you just speak a little closer to the mic?

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Thank you, sorry.

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Okay, so about $5,000 we're going to know,

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which was a file for this last year during the day actually.

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So it goes on exactly after.

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I actually have a meeting once I pass out to you,

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that are easier to read.

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But also on the other side,

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So I'm going to write there as the planning will pick up reach here, so you can see in 19

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20, it's so here, it's 13, about 14,000.

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2021 was about 20,000.

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21, 22 was with grant funds, through the resource conservation.

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And that was an independent contractor in the county.

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It was about $25,000.

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And then this year, roughly I say that 21,000.

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That was by the county.

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So with that, that's great that the average cost of pine needles is about $20,000 a year.

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But look at that, isn't it?

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They're right now translates to about $8 per year for a rate pair for pine needles.

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So again, we're currently adjusting since what we would like to do,

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the rates of much like poorly based on the number of parcels subject to the fee,

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the rate would either increase on the increase in the quarterfall of changes in land,

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So the lack of a supposed to be decreases,

242
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the rate would decrease if it increases.

243
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That rate would increase.

244
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There's a reduced likelihood of a bunch of truck calls.

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If we do the kind of quarterly adjustment,

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which would mitigate the need for a P increase

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is related to that service.

248
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On the annual adjustments and run the risk,

249
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the rates are only changing what's pretty here.

250
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But there's a high risk of a bunch of truck calls

251
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that might just take taking a load,

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potentially in the substantial deembrises for deaf service and or in active service

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on.

254
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Yeah.

255
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Yeah.

256
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All right.

257
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So one question.

258
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Can we go back one?

259
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Yes.

260
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There is a heightened risk of a budget shortfall.

261
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How about overpayment?

262
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Is that factor in there?

263
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It doesn't cost $20.

264
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Which I think is excessively high.

265
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How would you get that back to the people that are paying?

266
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So it would be back.

267
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And that if there was no budget trip all the next year,

268
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you could calculate the rate of some people.

269
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So tiny was only $5,000.

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And that year, you would have that rate for the following year,

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but only the adjusted to repay the $5,000.

272
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So it's a credit.

273
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It's basically a credit.

274
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So it's just ensuring we have enough to cover the credit cost.

275
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And then what are the actual cost was that we've

276
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battered into the next year's rate to pay back that cost?

277
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So what is the rate for right now?

278
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So this rate where you would be the minimum rate

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as of today, if we ran with this formula.

280
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So the ecology collection element,

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element per year, we ate 3,000, possibly,

282
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the disposal element, that's the cost of disposal.

283
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And I feel before you 1,000, 21,000

284
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the previous year's annual collection disposal, so I think making $4.4 cents, the cost of the

285
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walk out of $700 is the estimate that she's on the right of runs, so the $65 cents

286
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average is that poorly created. And the administrative cost would be $4.63. There's no debt

287
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service currently. There's $270 rate payers, so the rate would be $1.3975 or $4

288
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.00.

289
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Sam, sorry, question.

290
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Reconology has nothing to do with the pioneered data.

291
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Is that right?

292
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So it's county equipment and county employees taking out one of my needs.

293
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So it does to the fact that you own one of your company,

294
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you know what you do.

295
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I'm not an other company.

296
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How would the county?

297
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You're with the county.

298
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Okay.

299
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So historically, the pioneered data

300
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and we're doing strictly and we're somehow not going to call it.

301
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Right, so this year, Rose division did it.

302
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So the button date back to Rose part, actually, it was argument,

303
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so it wasn't a date back.

304
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So we're actually heading to County to pick up our date back.

305
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So it was $20,000 this year, but it was covered in my argument.

306
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So it did not come out anymore.

307
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Hi, Julie.

308
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I got a little bit of a stir, but I thought I would use say,

309
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100 to 30 quarterly, and it says 100 to 70 quarterly.

310
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No, I just changed the slide, so you go back one more.

311
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So that, what is the rate of the day?

312
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Okay, all right.

313
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In question, maybe I missed this.

314
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There's 277 rate pairs.

315
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Is that including all homes, or is it included?

316
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Or if I could not, like, fade away in the room?

317
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It's up vacant land.

318
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So seeing any home that has a structure for it,

319
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that's not owned by the National Park Service.

320
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So this is, they anticipated maximum rate.

321
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You're what?

322
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,040
I'm Katz's, how is UC for said calculated in this?

323
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They didn't know how it is, so they didn't harm me.

324
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They didn't know how it is, so they didn't harm me.

325
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,040
They don't harm me, so they wouldn't be in there.

326
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:40,300
They wouldn't have to pay.

327
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For all seven, six or seven hour bidding homes.

328
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Yes, they have.

329
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And they aren't paying for each one?

330
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Yes.

331
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I don't know if you go through the list again.

332
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see you see yourself on there.

333
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,880
They're not even going to the National Park Service for a few weeks.

334
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They are not just the National Park Service for a few weeks.

335
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They are not just the National Park Service for a few weeks.

336
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But they use our services.

337
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:10,940
The park service depends that they tell them to go to the yard and use it.

338
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I don't know if you're wondering, that was their intention, that's when they're conditioned.

339
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They tell them now.

340
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And you pick up their needles too.

341
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,120
Okay.

342
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:23,860
That's something we need to look at too.

343
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,260
All right.

344
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,500
So the 270 degrees you see is that?

345
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Not a throwing natural bark service.

346
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Right.

347
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Then there's our guidance.

348
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,000
The park service has its own agreement.

349
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Do they not?

350
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It was pre-cology and all the others.

351
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For whatever the level of barks I would track see.

352
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The park service does their own trash collection.

353
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,120
Okay, the concessionaire.

354
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080
So, the technology has a deal with the city of New York Valley.

355
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You would get the war on that hotel.

356
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,480
That was so hard, I guess.

357
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That would be, I think, that's different.

358
00:25:58,740 --> 00:26:00,360
So, that brings a part of the community.

359
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,040
Okay.

360
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,940
Now, also, what's it presented here?

361
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,340
It is on the basis of everyone pays the same rate.

362
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:10,720
Okay.

363
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:16,760
There's no special differential between rental and rental or whatever.

364
00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:18,960
It's just everybody pays the same rate.

365
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,460
Yeah, there's only one right there.

366
00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:21,800
It pays the number of rate.

367
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,960
And they pay most of fire.

368
00:26:23,180 --> 00:26:25,280
That's a sore because they walk that way.

369
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For their own use.

370
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,720
So they're paying basically for that entire day.

371
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It's ever been.

372
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,080
So that's actually a few hundred and seventy payers.

373
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So this will be the disputed maximum rate.

374
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This is based on the maximum increase that we have anticipated for the land, so that's

375
00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:54,210
the only cost of change here, about 40,000 in the previous slide here at the L-74,000.

376
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The land is at the disposal, but that's a maximum rate, and that will be decided by the board

377
00:27:01,290 --> 00:27:02,190
or supervisor.

378
00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:13,710
So, given that figure of 170 or 17, based upon the increase in that sort of letter E to 6,

379
00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:21,970
73,000, what's the likelihood of that happening given that you put it out there?

380
00:27:22,790 --> 00:27:25,030
During the hearing question.

381
00:27:29,210 --> 00:27:36,710
I can't say the likelihood that the need for the increase in the landfill is 100% certain.

382
00:27:39,930 --> 00:27:45,990
And that would be the maximum that would be needed by the study if we were to put that,

383
00:27:46,550 --> 00:27:48,190
like all the doctors of the study in place.

384
00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:51,690
Now, if we presented the board, they designed multiple things.

385
00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:55,330
One of those things is that it subsidizes the general fund.

386
00:27:55,330 --> 00:27:59,050
It's the way I feel for some people to keep the rate of pressure

387
00:27:59,050 --> 00:28:01,470
on the side of that high.

388
00:28:02,030 --> 00:28:05,190
But again, these are all very well, so that's why I'm presenting

389
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that now that we've pointed out, because if it is that increase,

390
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:12,390
you can see that the specific impact of the fund

391
00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:17,270
between this chart for $40 per quarter per entire year.

392
00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:19,450
And another question, again, we'll have.

393
00:28:20,830 --> 00:28:23,910
How are you determining the administrative costs?

394
00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:30,910
So that's an actual average cost per year for a personal service in Maryland, you know,

395
00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:33,070
a labor cost.

396
00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:34,410
And that's average out.

397
00:28:34,530 --> 00:28:37,690
And actually it's fun to have to pay that fee for a couple of years.

398
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:41,250
So these are labor costs for county employees.

399
00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:42,970
They're already paid.

400
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:45,910
And you're calculating an additional work on that.

401
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:48,490
And you need to have a labor.

402
00:28:49,050 --> 00:28:49,550
Yes.

403
00:28:50,270 --> 00:28:51,930
That's all they're paying.

404
00:28:58,650 --> 00:29:02,690
Mr. Chairman, go ahead.

405
00:29:02,990 --> 00:29:03,510
Well, thank you.

406
00:29:03,730 --> 00:29:05,170
Sam, thanks for being here.

407
00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:14,570
Just quick question on the ecology disposal element, the administrative cost, that sort of thing.

408
00:29:14,990 --> 00:29:19,070
That's the same no matter who's dumping into the landfill, right?

409
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:20,090
It's not just well, won't it?

410
00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:21,270
That's county-wide.

411
00:29:21,290 --> 00:29:21,990
That's county-wide.

412
00:29:22,170 --> 00:29:27,030
If the rate goes up, everybody in the county is paying more for their garbage service.

413
00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:28,110
Yes.

414
00:29:28,110 --> 00:29:32,970
And everybody in the county pays an administrative fee as part of their rate.

415
00:29:33,170 --> 00:29:34,010
Is that a fair statement?

416
00:29:34,450 --> 00:29:35,250
It's not the rate.

417
00:29:35,390 --> 00:29:36,870
It's not just what won't.

418
00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:37,630
Right.

419
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:38,790
Thank you.

420
00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:43,530
For those, we'll want us to need to get that the bill is done by the county,

421
00:29:43,670 --> 00:29:44,890
whether they're directed by the ecology.

422
00:29:46,130 --> 00:29:48,410
But yes, the ecology we've built in there, right?

423
00:29:48,410 --> 00:29:52,550
to land over eight with land-to-base for this year.

424
00:29:53,630 --> 00:29:54,970
Just about one of those questions.

425
00:29:55,370 --> 00:29:56,010
That's good.

426
00:29:56,210 --> 00:29:59,970
The same point that was kind of curious about is that...

427
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:17,560
All of them all homes through the county. With this, should pay roughly the city week. We won't differentiate between, you know, we'll want to want to be paying higher fee, say, than somewhere else.

428
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,060
a per-volume basis or what a face less than the rest of the count.

429
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,800
It does because he goes correctly.

430
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,660
So if you live in town and you're opposed to which it's right,

431
00:30:29,780 --> 00:30:32,160
it's just a landfill and kind of trash bin,

432
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,960
based on the volume of material,

433
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,480
and you can place in your trash can if they pick up

434
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,580
versus the dumpster, so I want it.

435
00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:41,880
You're a quarterly rate, it's higher in town than in the world.

436
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:42,680
Go on.

437
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:50,780
And you just mentioned that ecology builds everybody in county in the county does the

438
00:30:50,780 --> 00:30:51,000
loan.

439
00:30:53,540 --> 00:30:54,540
So, black and biology.

440
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,040
That's the way it set out this to be because there's a unique place in the entire county

441
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,860
with owners holding place that we're the county and ministers and contractors to the

442
00:31:02,860 --> 00:31:07,260
ecology and builds the residents, rather than direct through the college.

443
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:10,300
Question.

444
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:17,600
Dave Shisco, we're in a truck for a while, but we're not on my side to go.

445
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,620
Does it pay a fee in the end, or is it charged by weight?

446
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:24,960
It's charged by weight.

447
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,300
And it, I'll reiterate that it's not as low on attraction in the truck.

448
00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:34,220
That's right.

449
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,460
It's just, yeah, the woman is doing the best, or she's doing the part.

450
00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:46,600
So the one more truck could also, when it's weight, and then the weight is based on that weight.

451
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,320
The weight is based on the weight.

452
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,920
When the technology does it, they do it based on the quality.

453
00:31:51,940 --> 00:31:54,120
So the four yard can't hold that much.

454
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:59,700
Okay, so the truck arrives, and we don't know how much it's in that truck.

455
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:01,920
How is it charged?

456
00:32:02,820 --> 00:32:03,680
And then you weigh it?

457
00:32:03,820 --> 00:32:04,860
Yeah, we weigh it in the length.

458
00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:06,020
Okay.

459
00:32:06,020 --> 00:32:18,160
So, we have that truck, picks up low on his garbage, and then stops up to the deny and picks up their garbage, and fish camp, and then goes and weighs in.

460
00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:26,460
Okay, so your rate is not based on the weight of a wall is trapped, it's based on the body.

461
00:32:26,460 --> 00:32:31,620
A lot of average across the board, that doesn't matter where the truck goes, it's picking up where it's in.

462
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,060
It's going to average out to be 275 pounds per yard.

463
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:41,010
So, Sam, is it based on the containers that...

464
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,820
Yeah, it's based on the containers, so they're for yard containers.

465
00:32:44,380 --> 00:32:47,300
That's what we think of for yard containers.

466
00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:51,020
Okay, so if containers are not full, let's pick up.

467
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:56,140
Let's see, we've got the wash that's hard difficult in the local container,

468
00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:57,940
So there's nothing yet.

469
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,520
The garbage, the drug comes and dumps that.

470
00:33:00,820 --> 00:33:02,100
We pay to have that dump.

471
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,300
Okay, but there's nothing in there.

472
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:06,520
The blood weren't charged.

473
00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:08,180
That's why you.

474
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,320
The charged, the capacity is about $4.

475
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,300
Okay.

476
00:33:13,660 --> 00:33:14,380
Let's go.

477
00:33:14,380 --> 00:33:17,000
If, just to say, you wanted to say, you want to move on.

478
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,240
Please separate only, basically.

479
00:33:18,980 --> 00:33:19,820
You're ready to start.

480
00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:20,840
You're ready to start only.

481
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,120
You're ready to start only.

482
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,840
We want to see what the blood, right?

483
00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:23,780
We're thinking of going on a drug.

484
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,380
Although I go to land, I go to land.

485
00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:28,660
They would charge for the dinosaurs to be,

486
00:33:28,660 --> 00:33:31,320
that would cause years, tracers to be safe.

487
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Well, we get to be like a shelter

488
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,080
where the transducer in the truck and weigh it

489
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,280
before you get to go on and when you leave it,

490
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:42,940
you'll want to calculate how much weight you need.

491
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,520
I mean, we'll want to work this camp or in the other place.

492
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:47,520
Does she make a stop?

493
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,700
If you carry a little outer challenge,

494
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:51,700
if you want to sleep, why don't you do that?

495
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:53,340
Yeah, Dave.

496
00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:54,800
This has got, this has been

497
00:33:56,900 --> 00:34:01,520
What Jenny does when he hits here with the window bar, which is called the C-O, and the

498
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,180
33, every doctor, to see what's in there.

499
00:34:05,380 --> 00:34:06,880
And I don't know if this is all that that holds.

500
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,980
So we have some calculating when the structure is going to be full.

501
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,620
But when I'm there for the dumpster, that's almost impossible to do.

502
00:34:16,620 --> 00:34:24,720
Now, this is what you told me, okay, because when you pull down that bear for the dumpster,

503
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,120
you can't see what's in it.

504
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:29,880
You still left the lid.

505
00:34:30,220 --> 00:34:31,260
I've done it.

506
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:33,480
I've done it.

507
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:33,540
I've done it.

508
00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:33,780
I've done it.

509
00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:33,800
I've done it.

510
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,100
I've done it.

511
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:34,220
I've done it.

512
00:34:34,220 --> 00:34:34,560
I've done it.

513
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,980
I've done it.

514
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,500
I've done it.

515
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:42,040
If we could, remember to identify ourselves each time.

516
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:47,180
That way, because the Secretary's going to be trying to go through the tape and figure

517
00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:49,440
out, let's see who's saying what?

518
00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:53,120
So, try to remember to identify ourselves each time.

519
00:34:55,950 --> 00:34:56,070
Chop.

520
00:34:57,530 --> 00:35:00,810
Is it history being going to make sure that it's going to work all over the world?

521
00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:03,110
Chop, chop, chop, chop.

522
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,320
They calculate how much trash they've all from here, by a garbage, and that garbage is

523
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,560
It's a pretty strong at all, doesn't it be a whole bunch of things going to be pouring

524
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,180
out of some of those?

525
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:17,020
Yes.

526
00:35:20,980 --> 00:35:24,040
Mr. Chairman, do you have a, do you have any, do you have any, do you have any, do you have any

527
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,420
any questions earlier?

528
00:35:30,030 --> 00:35:36,510
Stevingford, the other question is that that average weight, or volume, to a 75-hour, and

529
00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:42,210
then industry center practices periodically, there are capacity surveys done, right, and then

530
00:35:42,210 --> 00:35:45,990
the referencing will be included in the rate, right, for that, okay.

531
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:48,350
Mr. Chairman, it's briefly, yeah.

532
00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:55,410
And Sam, getting back to what Mr. Cisco was talking about, as you know, and I think he

533
00:35:55,410 --> 00:36:02,470
heard this before, some of the bins are extremely difficult to operate, and I don't know

534
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:08,730
what control the county would have over this, but so that we don't have empty bins and

535
00:36:08,730 --> 00:36:15,090
overflowing bins that actually function easily, is there a way to assure that

536
00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:21,450
ecology is providing bins and maintaining them in a way that everyone no matter

537
00:36:21,450 --> 00:36:27,930
age or ability is able to utilize those bins and what if anything is being done

538
00:36:27,930 --> 00:36:29,390
to assure you. Thanks.

539
00:36:30,610 --> 00:36:34,810
So actually, not right now based on the subject we have, the disease

540
00:36:34,810 --> 00:36:37,130
We're still operating in there.

541
00:36:37,450 --> 00:36:40,290
We are negotiating you contract and agree with it.

542
00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:41,910
But we get a real short term.

543
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:44,110
We can't fully leverage that as much.

544
00:36:44,350 --> 00:36:45,890
That's what we put it out in it.

545
00:36:46,090 --> 00:36:47,130
And we do so.

546
00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:49,570
Or we just decide to have a long term of reality.

547
00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:52,450
We're very happy to play as a place.

548
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:55,270
And for instance, we've been there to play just for a day on a day.

549
00:36:55,690 --> 00:36:56,690
They will pay a bill.

550
00:36:57,110 --> 00:36:58,170
They'll pay like what they did here.

551
00:36:58,430 --> 00:36:59,470
Just every day.

552
00:36:59,830 --> 00:37:00,930
And then their equipment is not there.

553
00:37:02,370 --> 00:37:03,990
So let me ask again.

554
00:37:05,110 --> 00:37:10,970
I mean, reasonable shape, and I know that there are bins that I honestly can't get open.

555
00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:13,370
If I do, I have to use a lot of leverage.

556
00:37:14,430 --> 00:37:21,650
Is there a line? Is there someone that a resident can call and say, hey, this bin is just not working right?

557
00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:23,790
So that we can get that address.

558
00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:31,920
They come back all the way, or on the board's office, and they'll report it, and I know

559
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:32,680
the new contract.

560
00:37:33,740 --> 00:37:38,040
But now we do, I didn't tell where to like the information, tell them to fix it, and I will

561
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,080
all love that it's repaired.

562
00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:40,440
I don't know.

563
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,540
I hate the rain here to get it through, and they didn't do it.

564
00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:54,180
Also, if the misadventic up, just fill it with that, you can see all of it for that, and that

565
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:57,260
If I request, what I know is that they just pick up.

566
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,920
And that he's losing horse, whether everybody thinks that's what

567
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,240
they can't make it.

568
00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:02,960
But other than that, they make them.

569
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:07,620
So I'm trying to make it so that they have to maintain the tendons here.

570
00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:11,400
Because I've got around a bunch of survey and about issues that

571
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,260
did, that they're done.

572
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,560
So they're all never prepared to be there.

573
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,360
So you can contact them.

574
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,140
Fins that didn't have that.

575
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,780
So I've got to didn't say pick it up.

576
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,280
It's a concern.

577
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:29,420
It's me, on that point there, the fines or the penalties go to the county, or do they go back into our parking in the law or the court?

578
00:38:29,940 --> 00:38:30,420
Okay, thank you.

579
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:31,320
I do.

580
00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:32,300
This is it.

581
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:33,560
You got your whole question back in.

582
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:33,940
I do.

583
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:35,360
I do.

584
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:37,000
Just for clarification.

585
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,040
Is there?

586
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:44,900
I have never seen an effort on it for them, so that when we call in, how can I identify which

587
00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:54,360
That's a good point, well, right now I'm just doing my location on the map via zero map within number.

588
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,000
So I just don't want anybody to end up doing what needs to be prepared.

589
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,460
But yeah, I can request they know those things to my information.

590
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,840
Yes, thank you.

591
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,620
We can't care.

592
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:10,100
One real easy trick that you can do with those.

593
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:14,100
You can make the ends for the latch comes down and gets stuck.

594
00:39:15,260 --> 00:39:16,700
We always carry this food or whatever.

595
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,400
The easier way is when you go to the latch tab,

596
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,220
just leave that fully part of the latch open

597
00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:26,880
and move to the handle.

598
00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:31,040
And then it doesn't get jammed.

599
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:38,390
I carefully will get a little easier.

600
00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:43,550
I know on my street on these screws,

601
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:49,730
There's a bit, and it's slightly forward towards the flaps in the center.

602
00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:54,990
So what happens is there's a lot of obvious units right there.

603
00:39:56,050 --> 00:40:01,470
So you put it in and it falls to the front, and before the thing I'm going to guess is

604
00:40:01,470 --> 00:40:06,390
even half full, you can't open that lid because it's just kind of enough right there.

605
00:40:06,610 --> 00:40:12,610
It's jamming a lid and you can't even open it, and I'm just wondering if there's any

606
00:40:12,610 --> 00:40:23,450
And maybe there should be some thought as to the openings on the top to be there should be one on each side or three percent of each side.

607
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:31,010
And then they even tilt it back a little or at least level, but not in an orientation or conflict.

608
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:31,610
I don't know.

609
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:32,650
I don't know.

610
00:40:34,090 --> 00:40:34,730
It's all the same.

611
00:40:35,530 --> 00:40:35,870
And

612
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,300
there are any other questions?

613
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,480
No, question.

614
00:40:45,140 --> 00:40:47,280
Well, I miss the facility.

615
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,100
You can sit in the faucet if you sit in the faucet and get set.

616
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:52,940
That's built into the feed.

617
00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:54,000
The whole feed.

618
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:54,560
Yeah.

619
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,080
That's the water center here.

620
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,280
Four of them.

621
00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:58,640
Okay.

622
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:06,760
And the other, just like comment on, I know that we're getting to the, yeah.

623
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,480
in the area of the E to that section,

624
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,460
but for something turning a lot of the vendors

625
00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:15,440
produce more of the garbage.

626
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,180
I don't know if that's true enough.

627
00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:22,480
Christianies, is there a way that the county

628
00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:30,380
could have a fee for renters that would offset that extra garbage

629
00:41:30,380 --> 00:41:33,620
so that the county is very good at collecting taxes?

630
00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:40,540
How often can see factors and factors on everything, has that been considered at all?

631
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,380
Is that even legal to do that?

632
00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:52,390
Turn one off. Turn that one off too.

633
00:41:54,110 --> 00:41:55,870
I'm three can be on it at a time.

634
00:41:57,690 --> 00:42:01,030
So that was looking to, it's not legal.

635
00:42:01,470 --> 00:42:04,530
It's not being, unfortunately, the term is exactly what the term is.

636
00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:06,850
So we have to determine that from every home.

637
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:14,220
So get a very basic name because you get the alcohol service, those names are available

638
00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:18,440
by everybody in the community, so everybody can you name it?

639
00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:24,820
And then to clarify one, tomorrow itself, I'm name, when you say that the annual increase of

640
00:42:24,820 --> 00:42:34,220
the base of CPI, if your costs are less than the CPI, very increased left, is that taking

641
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:37,920
account, or is that installed? It's going to be CPI.

642
00:42:38,580 --> 00:42:41,700
That is pharmacologists contract that they have CPI increase.

643
00:42:42,380 --> 00:42:45,860
It's service CPI was at the same and how it worked.

644
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,340
It's a federal...

645
00:42:47,340 --> 00:42:51,540
It's a federal CPI, but actually I'm not going to fill in the mind exactly in this.

646
00:42:52,420 --> 00:42:56,420
I understand that, but if the oncology causes less than CPI,

647
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,360
we still won't increase it by the CPI.

648
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,440
Your oncology won't increase, there's why the CPI.

649
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,380
that I'm consistently over here by the effects of counteractors.

650
00:43:08,180 --> 00:43:12,660
And they will use for the county labor, they'll just see counteractors.

651
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:20,040
I have a speed for measures on the objectives, I'll say that extra garbage,

652
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,280
so that the car is very critical in taxes.

653
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,100
Now, I don't think that the taxes are ready to pay.

654
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,740
And that's been considered all that the music could do.

655
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:37,880
Sorry, sorry.

656
00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:41,760
Turn it off.

657
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:42,700
Turn it off too.

658
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:43,980
All they want out of any time.

659
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,480
The way can be on it a time.

660
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:01,080
I looked at the blue thread.

661
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:03,000
The blue thread, the blue thread, the blue thread, the blue thread.

662
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,460
Or the first thread.

663
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,380
That's why I only looked at houses on the blue thread.

664
00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:09,480
or it would have been that good.

665
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:16,240
And so, put up the modules, there's 11 rounds to the sheet.

666
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,640
I talked about this sheet here.

667
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,340
There's 11 rounds.

668
00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:22,140
And there's three, three, five, all set.

669
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,080
He's about one and three are the redness now.

670
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:26,660
And I'm going to keep chasing him.

671
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,120
And I see more of that figure get ready to be around.

672
00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:31,220
So I'm going to turn this off.

673
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,180
So this gets both down on the end of the track.

674
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:35,020
I'm going to get some of the next presentation.

675
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,320
And so there's not much you can tell if they're looking at the outside of the ground.

676
00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:43,060
But I tried it.

677
00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:45,060
I got five, three, two, three, two, three, and one.

678
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,640
And I walked around and looked at everyone.

679
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:47,560
He's had this.

680
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,660
And this is what I saw.

681
00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:53,100
Well, let's do it at the first column here.

682
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,140
What's the number of the bedrooms?

683
00:44:54,620 --> 00:44:55,740
I got that on the website.

684
00:44:56,020 --> 00:44:57,200
I went to each room.

685
00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:57,800
I went to the website.

686
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,620
Got that.

687
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,800
And then I went to the guest's lobby.

688
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:26,720
And so, the average number of beds that looks like 2.1, this is a point in the right direction here. There's a third line in down here. And then the number of average number of guests involved is seven, which means about three guests are involved for bed room. That seems pretty intense to me, that tells them. So the word here is intensity. It's an intensive use of these formal houses, probably more intense than the average house.

689
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:36,720
The second thing I like to do is I couldn't tell how many people are in the cabin 530 in the morning.

690
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:39,360
I could bring the doorbell and see how much we got on the street.

691
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:41,840
But I didn't want to do that.

692
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,940
But I just want to go down the number of cars from now.

693
00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:49,560
And also because you know, it's sort of about the lighting area.

694
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,880
There's a big difference between the city and the city, between the number of lights,

695
00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:00,140
of lentils to be on a shiny and then gave it to what it was, and then the copper

696
00:46:00,140 --> 00:46:04,800
you understood. And so while we have here, the number of cars parked for site was

697
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:12,020
1.3 average of cars per site on the bedless. And on the plan, once it's 1.4 cars per site

698
00:46:12,020 --> 00:46:19,480
on the average. So that means it's a decoration, you get 3.3, which is 3 times more cars parked

699
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,180
on a telephone and a provider, private one, private one.

700
00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:28,620
And so, Sam says, what you have to be able to measure exactly

701
00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:31,480
if you talk about politicians, you do not need to wait for some time.

702
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,420
But it's a measure I believe how much more emphasis that Kevin has been

703
00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:40,660
used than why he kept just the number of cars, the number of cars.

704
00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:42,460
And that's done all the time.

705
00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:46,100
Google votes were, the government cases are in the country,

706
00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:48,160
by the number of people that are doing building code.

707
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,440
that counties know where the COVID cases are by testing the source system for bacteria

708
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,220
with COVID-19.

709
00:46:53,660 --> 00:46:59,660
So there are indirect ways of doing measurements and I believe the problem is just to

710
00:46:59,660 --> 00:47:03,080
18 implies that you can do that with the COVID-19 development.

711
00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:09,280
So the take the way here on this first page is that I think you see all of the tabellate

712
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,300
number of whites and all of the checkpoints here in the foxes.

713
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,860
And you're worried about 23 private homes.

714
00:47:15,140 --> 00:47:17,640
You're worried no, if I'm still in the light setting,

715
00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:19,340
if you've got time in the morning,

716
00:47:19,780 --> 00:47:21,320
at all, I'm sure you're like,

717
00:47:21,540 --> 00:47:22,700
trying to stand on the phone.

718
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:25,240
And that's because they have to pay the electric bill.

719
00:47:25,420 --> 00:47:26,960
The renters get into a house,

720
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:28,020
they don't know what the switch is,

721
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:29,560
they don't know what switches do watch,

722
00:47:29,820 --> 00:47:32,020
and they want to find out what you're afraid of.

723
00:47:32,140 --> 00:47:34,480
But they're lit up, you can see different bodies.

724
00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:36,520
There's 1.5 over the electric bill.

725
00:47:36,740 --> 00:47:38,820
I know how we're directing lights, the renters.

726
00:47:40,660 --> 00:47:46,040
So, and then thing I'd like to see, since the community on this, this doesn't have you in trash.

727
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:47,340
It has a different representation.

728
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,080
I'm glad you wrote that up in your presentation.

729
00:47:52,820 --> 00:47:54,640
I knew what these 11 runs.

730
00:47:54,740 --> 00:47:58,280
I knew every order, most of them, a lot of them, they built their tab.

731
00:47:58,620 --> 00:47:59,580
And I've been here for years.

732
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,740
I knew every corner original.

733
00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:04,760
Now, the only ones I know are the two that still are original,

734
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:11,000
or as a voters, for instance, in C-SIL, around the, I can't just put this thing in,

735
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:16,080
but they are, I can't put them in. And the others act right to me. I don't know.

736
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,620
And I looked at their addresses, I went to talk to the tax owners, and asked them one of the

737
00:48:20,620 --> 00:48:24,700
addresses these, on the others, and none of them had the account.

738
00:48:27,490 --> 00:48:28,510
I think that summarizes

739
00:48:28,510 --> 00:48:32,570
what I want to say about that. I take the trashbergs, all of them speak the same,

740
00:48:32,570 --> 00:48:34,570
that the government doesn't raise the rates.

741
00:48:34,910 --> 00:48:37,490
Think all of us be in the safe as there is to be more and more

742
00:48:37,490 --> 00:48:40,350
chest ERs here, there's to be more and more trash.

743
00:48:41,650 --> 00:48:45,690
And the private vendors and the ones in the fair of the curb of that.

744
00:48:48,010 --> 00:48:51,890
Because they're getting the same rate, five months later,

745
00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:54,590
then the private ones will be paid more and more,

746
00:48:55,290 --> 00:48:58,970
because it's the more trash for the house.

747
00:48:59,590 --> 00:49:02,350
And this is the first part of the climate policy that we're going to talk about.

748
00:49:03,470 --> 00:49:08,050
And since I'm already standing, I know you guys are the experts on this.

749
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:11,690
I'm really wanted to say, I appreciate what you've done.

750
00:49:12,170 --> 00:49:15,270
I mean, it's a huge shot, I can't even imagine how much work you put into the trash.

751
00:49:15,970 --> 00:49:17,810
And you're the experts, and I'm just an amateur.

752
00:49:18,810 --> 00:49:24,250
But as I never heard of opposition to 18 before, you're not just the last time you mentioned it again today,

753
00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:26,450
and how it had to be directly made.

754
00:49:26,450 --> 00:49:34,070
And so I set up a lot of study and a lot of things that came to mind that I've done for

755
00:49:34,070 --> 00:49:42,030
Timing to us are one is the amount of the heat cannot exceed the cost of the government, provide the service.

756
00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:42,850
That's fine.

757
00:49:43,450 --> 00:49:49,850
It says, and there's definitely, this is a proposition now, they always leave a lot of stuff and take it.

758
00:49:49,850 --> 00:49:53,570
These are the Y-1A, the Y-1A, and the different Y-1A.

759
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:54,910
By another screw.

760
00:49:56,990 --> 00:50:03,690
Some analysts say that feeds that very by low service, like I talked about,

761
00:50:03,690 --> 00:50:05,350
like different grade from RMS.

762
00:50:05,950 --> 00:50:06,430
Right, right, on.

763
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:09,630
Should I be considered a property related to keeping

764
00:50:09,630 --> 00:50:13,750
because it is based on service, service, use,

765
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:15,370
rather than proper ownership.

766
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:19,110
And that's why we're talking about service, usage,

767
00:50:19,110 --> 00:50:24,230
Well, probably the problem, just like a business, this tax, in some ways different.

768
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:27,910
I don't know if I don't even have the right to do that.

769
00:50:28,510 --> 00:50:31,170
And the other thing that it said, excuse me, Chuck.

770
00:50:31,770 --> 00:50:35,130
I've just had a question, I'm trying to go back on.

771
00:50:35,410 --> 00:50:37,910
I'm sort of my memory on this.

772
00:50:38,110 --> 00:50:40,190
If we go into it, I think I'll start to go first.

773
00:50:41,890 --> 00:50:46,690
But when the county came to a community talking about the county,

774
00:50:46,690 --> 00:50:51,070
You know, let's try to keep me under the bus and like this.

775
00:50:51,630 --> 00:50:53,230
The first thing I had to do was figure out,

776
00:50:53,290 --> 00:50:55,690
OK, what's the average cost to everybody?

777
00:50:56,430 --> 00:50:58,710
And that's what we're seeing here, I think, today.

778
00:50:59,510 --> 00:51:02,310
And then if I recall right, the next step,

779
00:51:02,490 --> 00:51:03,990
that was a year or not, so it was good.

780
00:51:04,550 --> 00:51:05,050
That was a bad idea.

781
00:51:05,090 --> 00:51:09,010
Don't go ahead, OK, or just correct me if I'm wrong.

782
00:51:09,310 --> 00:51:12,490
But part of your plan, the county's plan included,

783
00:51:13,130 --> 00:51:15,650
then going to the next step and trying

784
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:19,390
and figure out a more equitable way of allocating the fees

785
00:51:19,390 --> 00:51:21,190
that would come in a whole out of the one.

786
00:51:21,370 --> 00:51:21,970
Is that correct?

787
00:51:22,570 --> 00:51:26,630
Is that the subject of the future study of what we

788
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,180
did?

789
00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:32,820
It's hard to short-term reals and direct rest ends.

790
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:37,420
Again, there's no way to determine that the portionality.

791
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,040
Correctly related to how much trash it would use.

792
00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:42,760
How could we be able to prove?

793
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,040
Yes, this person produces three-dimensional trash,

794
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:51,120
this person, this would cause us to, you didn't drive trash by each individual property.

795
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:53,800
That's the only way we can do it.

796
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:57,960
I ran through something that you said about square footage of the house.

797
00:51:58,140 --> 00:51:59,780
Could it be based on that bigger house?

798
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:00,840
That is more trash.

799
00:52:01,740 --> 00:52:03,200
Now that's a survey, right?

800
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,040
And what about how much capacity there is in the short-term real?

801
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:10,500
I mean, did people decrease less trash than one person?

802
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,000
You know, just to be able to people with their right, right?

803
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,120
So, that's very difficult to quantify specifically, yes, they produce this much more.

804
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,000
A short term Reynolds have the argument, we're empty most of the minute.

805
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:27,080
That's sort of quite a pulse, but they're right.

806
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,140
But then they have to get to that area, so then based on how long you're there.

807
00:52:33,140 --> 00:52:35,200
So, you have a place here in your own spirit.

808
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,140
Three weeks a year, so you want you to take three weeks unfortunately.

809
00:52:38,140 --> 00:52:41,140
to give you as in the burden of various lives here full-time.

810
00:52:42,340 --> 00:52:46,140
If you're only paying for the three weeks in somebody else's paying for the whole year,

811
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:49,860
they're paying $5,000 a year for trash services and we have to pay $20.

812
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,040
So, you agree with saying that you come along with an insoluble goal.

813
00:52:55,220 --> 00:52:55,620
They come along.

814
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,980
And let's go to independent trash services.

815
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,220
Rolls are carried out in the morning.

816
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:02,680
And trash, that was a big setup.

817
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:04,200
There was no way to do that.

818
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,840
I didn't know that you would know that I would show up to earn only three trash cans.

819
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,640
It's going to take you back as much.

820
00:53:09,980 --> 00:53:11,420
But how soon is one trash can?

821
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:14,080
So you did.

822
00:53:14,380 --> 00:53:15,820
So that portion of the study.

823
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:16,500
Yeah.

824
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,160
You did.

825
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:17,820
That's right.

826
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:17,980
Right.

827
00:53:17,980 --> 00:53:18,000
Right.

828
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:18,120
Right.

829
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:18,160
Right.

830
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:18,220
Right.

831
00:53:18,220 --> 00:53:18,300
Right.

832
00:53:21,940 --> 00:53:27,760
And for what it's worth.

833
00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:33,260
We have been having conversations in your

834
00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:39,460
committee west about the need to raise rates for water and sewer services.

835
00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:45,320
We haven't raised them for about 11 years and we need to cover costs.

836
00:53:46,280 --> 00:54:03,240
We have been working with a firm that provides guidance on how to set rates over a five or

837
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:18,240
And there was a resident there who wanted very much to have a different fee for short-term rentals on the presumption a higher rate for short-term rentals in the firm.

838
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:24,940
the Analyst at Vartowels Associates said basically you can't do it unless you can demonstrate

839
00:54:24,940 --> 00:54:34,300
that the cost associated with providing service to that short-term rental is more than or

840
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:40,420
short-term rentals generally is more than for residents when the short-term rentals are

841
00:54:40,420 --> 00:54:46,020
interspersed as they are here throughout the community. The answer was you can't do it. It's not

842
00:54:46,020 --> 00:54:51,940
legally defensible. And, once again, you can demonstrate on some basis, like Sam was suggesting

843
00:54:51,940 --> 00:55:03,240
for the trash, that there's a clear difference that means that they are producing more

844
00:55:04,540 --> 00:55:09,880
trash in this context, using more water in the Yosemite West context.

845
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:19,740
Mr. Chairman, if I may, a couple of questions, based upon the presentation number one,

846
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:25,400
did I understand you to say that County Council has weighed in and has determined that

847
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,600
property rate team would prevent this type of move of case cases?

848
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,760
You mean a tiered rate scale?

849
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:40,920
Yes, and secondly, if I understood you, the rates that are being paid in the water based on the number of bins,

850
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:54,920
not which house is using what trash, the percentage is that the proliferation of short-drilled rentals is causing a bigger

851
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,320
Number one, other properties.

852
00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:59,660
But the question is, there's no rates.

853
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,060
Our calculator based upon a number of bins

854
00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:06,980
has the number of bins gone up significantly,

855
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,740
say in the last five years, with the increase

856
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:14,800
in short-term rentals, the last four years.

857
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:18,420
Sam, so to the point is this,

858
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,100
if we're being charged based on the number of bins,

859
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:29,700
But the number of bins haven't changed, the impact of short-term rentals is not really

860
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:32,760
measurable and isn't that correct?

861
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:33,900
Yes, correct.

862
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,140
So, two of those years were COVID years, but there was probably a lot of Europeans used.

863
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:46,220
Fair point, how about years before, last four years, how about the last eight years,

864
00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:48,980
have the number of bins been increased?

865
00:56:52,300 --> 00:56:57,240
So, again, we're being charged as a community based upon the number of bins that

866
00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:58,740
ecology has to service.

867
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:06,020
There's very important issues here with people who are not satisfied about the rate

868
00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:06,540
structure.

869
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:13,920
We understand the Prop 2 18 issue, but since we're paying by the bin, it might be nice to know

870
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:27,900
If the perceived or actual increase in short-term rents has caused a proliferation of bends in the community to have to be picked up because then that may be calculated.

871
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,340
It was also a bit of a shawl.

872
00:57:31,780 --> 00:57:32,580
It was also a bit of a shawl home.

873
00:57:32,580 --> 00:57:33,780
It was also a bit of a shawl home, built up.

874
00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:35,180
Right, yeah.

875
00:57:37,390 --> 00:57:43,310
Mike Kent Lake, the fact is there's been a rental homes here for all longer than just 10 years

876
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:50,710
and the fact that the bins aren't full typically in my estimation when they get picked up.

877
00:57:50,790 --> 00:57:54,710
The reserves in the full capacity of bins that wouldn't be necessary.

878
00:57:54,710 --> 00:58:02,950
If there was an higher rate of garbage generation, and I believe partially used short-term rents.

879
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:07,910
So, you know, you've got a good point that you could try to measure it like that,

880
00:58:07,930 --> 00:58:10,830
but I'm not sure that that's going to hit more.

881
00:58:12,970 --> 00:58:19,210
But the last thing I was going to read just says that no private owner stage should be greater than proportion.

882
00:58:19,210 --> 00:58:22,590
the portion costs, you know, by the property related service.

883
00:58:23,310 --> 00:58:26,590
Like assessments, this requirement may be told to look over there, but

884
00:58:26,590 --> 00:58:30,390
sitting in property related B rates on a block by block for personal

885
00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:31,370
like personal cases.

886
00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:34,430
So, like the other, the reason you're sitting here can't put this

887
00:58:34,430 --> 00:58:35,710
tissue condition is happening.

888
00:58:37,150 --> 00:58:39,710
But, is there something, actually, might a statistically,

889
00:58:39,870 --> 00:58:43,110
or something, statistically, that somewhere, to justify

890
00:58:43,110 --> 00:58:46,490
this, by sitting at every trial, for example, on the car park,

891
00:58:46,490 --> 00:58:51,230
There's one, and you can say it's not a very good measure, but it is not a good measure.

892
00:58:51,970 --> 00:58:59,030
Is there anyone here, if you read your hand, if you think the CRS do not generate more traction, right?

893
00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:00,230
It's almost upon average.

894
00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:02,110
Does anybody believe that?

895
00:59:02,270 --> 00:59:03,810
Should I prove that we have a question?

896
00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:08,050
Turn off on the chair.

897
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:09,950
Can you determine, like, thanks?

898
00:59:10,490 --> 00:59:17,590
I think the point of view is a renderer.

899
00:59:17,650 --> 00:59:21,110
I'm saying, OK, I'm saying, I have the O.T.

900
00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:28,850
That is a theme to my state, which is considerably more than the theme here.

901
00:59:29,410 --> 00:59:35,470
So therefore, you should maybe put the county in terms of the ghost and general fund.

902
00:59:35,950 --> 00:59:38,050
Who doesn't have that point?

903
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:45,650
And it's like, in the property of who's running, I would say, yeah, we're collecting

904
00:59:45,650 --> 00:59:50,890
the great deal of money from TOLT, we're on sales tax for collecting.

905
00:59:51,590 --> 00:59:54,530
You've got so many issues to address, you can't.

906
00:59:54,730 --> 00:59:55,630
That way you can.

907
00:59:55,650 --> 00:59:57,310
Yeah, there are four statements.

908
00:59:58,210 --> 00:59:59,870
So, we need to turn that one off.

909
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,740
If you're going to speak to them, there's a jump again. So there are four state problems here. You know, there's the private problems. And they mostly get cheered. There's a cheered piece there. You don't need to put these dishes on that. Okay. And there's the cabinet owner. He gets to play a line of money. There's the rally agency there for money. The county gets to 30 and a half percent. And as myself, why is the one that's getting all the payment have to get more paying than the other people are making all of my money?

910
01:00:32,910 --> 01:00:36,330
I think we may need to move on.

911
01:00:36,810 --> 01:00:41,770
I mean, I also could have been like an additional part at Intermittals.

912
01:00:43,090 --> 01:00:44,410
So I think I'll pay for that.

913
01:00:44,590 --> 01:00:47,490
Let me give those other questions.

914
01:00:47,890 --> 01:00:51,510
At the end of this session, the presentation we're being asked

915
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:54,890
to decide whether to recommend that the county proceed

916
01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:59,690
would be a reading increase for more. That's we would have asked that last

917
01:00:59,690 --> 01:01:06,110
last last October. I think it was. And we said, yeah, they're probably, they need to get

918
01:01:06,110 --> 01:01:10,810
more of them to get in. But how do we do it? And then you came back in this is what we're

919
01:01:10,810 --> 01:01:24,870
especially right now. Maybe that discussion we have will be transitioning back to the

920
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:34,450
I think we have the expert on solid waste management in Northland County here, and he's,

921
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:41,950
I think, responded to your questions about what, what, what information exists with respect

922
01:01:42,970 --> 01:01:47,790
to trash disposal variation as a function of different circumstances.

923
01:01:48,530 --> 01:01:54,970
So, I think we've gone as far as Sam correct me if I'm wrong as he can go on that front.

924
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:59,370
The other questions that you're raising are really linkal in nature.

925
01:02:00,310 --> 01:02:08,530
And I'm not sure what you've discussed with County Council, but I know that in our water

926
01:02:08,530 --> 01:02:15,650
and sewer districts and for a rate increase that is a bit further out for road maintenance,

927
01:02:16,690 --> 01:02:26,790
We'll be working with outside council and an expert affirmed that it is expert in working through the 2018 process.

928
01:02:27,250 --> 01:02:31,710
And as I said, with respect to what I mentioned about your semity west,

929
01:02:33,830 --> 01:02:38,710
we can try, we can ask a lot of questions similar to what you've raised.

930
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:45,650
But I can only tell you what the Yosimity West experience was, but we don't have an

931
01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:48,190
expert in the room on the two 18 process.

932
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:56,510
So I think we can talk about it for some length of time, whatever suits the committee.

933
01:02:58,270 --> 01:03:04,990
But we won't be able to come to a final answer until we run it by an expert in this particular

934
01:03:04,990 --> 01:03:05,750
subject area.

935
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:08,810
But just make short comment if I may end up with one.

936
01:03:08,930 --> 01:03:10,990
And then I just got a little bit more energy on you.

937
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,240
Is there kind of a way to approach it like this?

938
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,420
Slip in increments to the top, because in the end of the trench,

939
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:24,840
exactly as there's some other approach that you can use outside of just the trench.

940
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:26,520
You cannot complete without the trench.

941
01:03:26,740 --> 01:03:27,320
We will roll.

942
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,320
This is the allocation of the trench.

943
01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:30,920
Let's see if we can get that.

944
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,260
So I'm not opposed to saying,

945
01:03:32,540 --> 01:03:35,540
what he guessed today, except that we have to roll a note because

946
01:03:35,540 --> 01:03:36,780
that they don't believe in the homophage.

947
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:44,180
So there's some other way that they're trying to approach it, do you get an estimate of

948
01:03:44,180 --> 01:03:47,140
the non-ease trash and charge for your program?

949
01:03:48,020 --> 01:03:53,560
As maybe before you answer that, I had to say, that's what it sounds like everybody's saying.

950
01:03:54,240 --> 01:04:00,800
They don't feel comfortable with the allocation and they feel that the people that have a

951
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:09,180
a more, could maybe the committee get together and specifically ask a particular question for

952
01:04:09,180 --> 01:04:16,000
you to take counsel and say, here's our question. Is there a legal way that I'm not sure

953
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:24,580
how we want to refer to a phrase that the TOT people can be charged for an additional fee

954
01:04:24,580 --> 01:04:27,780
for their garbage and let's get a legal opinion on it?

955
01:04:27,780 --> 01:04:35,700
I'm much more comfortable with that, and maybe you can vote, or make a motion that is contingent

956
01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:42,140
on the answer to that question, but unless Richard, who's the only JD, I know in this room,

957
01:04:43,420 --> 01:04:49,620
reports to have expertise on the two 18 process. I think we could spend a lot of time talking about it

958
01:04:49,620 --> 01:04:50,800
get no water.

959
01:04:51,660 --> 01:04:52,820
Can I show you the real life?

960
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:53,800
Let me talk again.

961
01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:54,400
Sure.

962
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,200
The whole private notice, I hear lots of complaints from them.

963
01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:00,300
I can be in a circle.

964
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:01,960
But I won't.

965
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:04,520
They can be all that they're all here for a month and a year.

966
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,100
And they're paying the same amount as the people that are here for a year.

967
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:08,720
For example.

968
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,440
And I say, it's an inequity.

969
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,200
But you can cut the rest of the 11 months that you want.

970
01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:15,400
And you have that choice.

971
01:05:15,620 --> 01:05:17,140
And you have that service available for you.

972
01:05:17,140 --> 01:05:21,180
So they do have a choice, but they use a calendar month or a month, that's hard, but they

973
01:05:21,180 --> 01:05:26,140
don't have a choice, who their neighbor is going to be, but it's going to be STR, not really,

974
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,440
they don't have their families down the street.

975
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:33,160
So they're already feeling discriminated against in the sense.

976
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,200
And this just has one more discrimination.

977
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:36,900
I understand.

978
01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:37,520
Okay.

979
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,140
I will...

980
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,820
I think I understand the question.

981
01:05:42,820 --> 01:05:48,400
And as you stated it, and as I said, we explored it in the Yosemite Bus context.

982
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:53,440
We can certainly explore it in the Bobona context, without side experts.

983
01:05:55,540 --> 01:06:00,260
And I'll leave it there because I can't give you any answer right now.

984
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:01,420
Thank you.

985
01:06:01,900 --> 01:06:02,080
Thank you.

986
01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:10,460
I have just been answered in the chat.

987
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,560
You can have more data on the cabin and all the way.

988
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:13,820
You can have more data on the page.

989
01:06:13,820 --> 01:06:15,640
It's part of each 12 months of the year.

990
01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:20,840
My second question of point is, is the non-turist

991
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:25,840
load-turist season are the same number of youngsters picked up

992
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:26,140
between.

993
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:28,640
Yes?

994
01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:31,300
Yes.

995
01:06:31,300 --> 01:06:35,340
Because most of them at that point are not very full.

996
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,340
Is there a way to schedule something?

997
01:06:40,500 --> 01:06:43,640
Do you want schedule for very much your load-turist season?

998
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,920
If you want to downsize the number of dusters, you want to do it again.

999
01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:49,860
You want to downsize the number of dusters?

1000
01:06:50,100 --> 01:06:50,500
I mean, good.

1001
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,780
You've got tons of weed.

1002
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,920
No, the number of pig dusts.

1003
01:06:54,060 --> 01:06:56,980
First of all, a lot of the dusters that don't have to do so.

1004
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,400
I mean, in a lot of the world wants to hear that we don't generate a lot of trash.

1005
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,340
And those are the winter months when there's no skin.

1006
01:07:06,260 --> 01:07:08,340
And there's no reason to be here because it's cold.

1007
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,260
So we don't generate a lot of trash.

1008
01:07:11,140 --> 01:07:17,080
If we went to pick up once a week, that would change the cost.

1009
01:07:19,980 --> 01:07:21,640
I will proceed.

1010
01:07:22,380 --> 01:07:23,940
I will go back and ask for another report.

1011
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,080
I hope that they will renew a bit.

1012
01:07:28,180 --> 01:07:34,600
Follow on at 5 minutes and send Wayne Herriger to take sort of details with

1013
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,880
that Cisco's observation.

1014
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:47,780
But whatever the result is here, maybe we get a count of dumpsters, put that in, the

1015
01:07:47,780 --> 01:07:55,620
end result, the count of dumpsters, and as a member of the audience mentioned, we were

1016
01:07:55,620 --> 01:08:05,210
suggested that the dumpsters be numbered, so we can talk back throughout the year, especially

1017
01:08:05,210 --> 01:08:08,190
If we get into this winter service,

1018
01:08:09,470 --> 01:08:13,930
bought accurately, buy y'all stir to y'all stir to y'all stir.

1019
01:08:14,190 --> 01:08:15,410
So, let's play with it now.

1020
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,020
Can they be numbered in?

1021
01:08:19,020 --> 01:08:19,640
Yes, I will.

1022
01:08:20,020 --> 01:08:22,980
Well, added cost by the economy.

1023
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,200
If they deliver a bit, that's easy.

1024
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,420
Mike and I, Mike, help me.

1025
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,080
Thank you for taking the time to do this that if you did.

1026
01:08:37,420 --> 01:08:39,420
And your realization of appreciation that.

1027
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:41,420
That was it.

1028
01:08:42,440 --> 01:08:46,680
Since we can record a short, we can't see the hands.

1029
01:08:46,860 --> 01:08:47,740
I did ask the question.

1030
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,940
Did anybody feel that STRs do not share a contract?

1031
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,680
I didn't see me answer like that together.

1032
01:09:00,270 --> 01:09:04,130
We are going to take a moment on what the presentation

1033
01:09:04,710 --> 01:09:11,710
that the county and in the agenda because that's sort of pulled on that check. So that's not a vote of that.

1034
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:13,230
I'm just just doing a bold.

1035
01:09:13,670 --> 01:09:18,990
This item's actually not an action item. The way it's written on the agenda is you guys can give recommendations.

1036
01:09:19,190 --> 01:09:19,450
Correct.

1037
01:09:20,250 --> 01:09:23,370
So it's usually not a vote. It's just the majority of your core out.

1038
01:09:23,470 --> 01:09:30,470
That's that's what I mean, but the civil rights are going to be looking for, okay, what's the sense of the committee on this issue?

1039
01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:35,530
So that would be our recommendation, whatever we could, what would be voting on would be a recommendation.

1040
01:09:37,230 --> 01:09:43,030
And unless the similar thing you wanted to devote based on to not what the agenda said.

1041
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:53,670
It's again not a vote, at least a majority of you would have to agree on the same recommendation to public awareness.

1042
01:09:53,670 --> 01:09:54,610
That's understood.

1043
01:09:55,710 --> 01:09:56,570
And this is what happens.

1044
01:09:57,410 --> 01:09:58,570
You can keep us on.

1045
01:09:58,570 --> 01:09:59,670
Keep us on us.

1046
01:10:02,370 --> 01:10:06,690
There are really more questions for the county on the side.

1047
01:10:09,670 --> 01:10:10,170
Thank you for that.

1048
01:10:10,730 --> 01:10:11,030
Thank you.

1049
01:10:11,230 --> 01:10:11,590
I'm sorry.

1050
01:10:11,790 --> 01:10:18,790
Can you go through the next steps and timeline,

1051
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,280
at least what you would like to see?

1052
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:30,700
So, with the recommendation, and we go to the board to the D-Shift and Procure team process,

1053
01:10:31,340 --> 01:10:36,040
then there will be a public hearing and we'll want to again, for the community that we started

1054
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,780
at the process of providing the election going out, and then they have the right to protest,

1055
01:10:41,260 --> 01:10:45,500
and they protest, and it wasn't the protest time to complete those protests we counted,

1056
01:10:46,300 --> 01:10:50,440
and then the result is the truth. There's not a majority of protests that we go back to the board

1057
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:51,900
to prove the rates.

1058
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:07,720
That's what I see on the table kind of at the same time when it's just come to the table.

1059
01:11:08,460 --> 01:11:14,740
Is one does the county, does the county need more money for the county?

1060
01:11:14,740 --> 01:11:23,140
I think that's one question, okay, and I think that's pretty fair.

1061
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:32,140
The next point then is, as moving forward and how to figure out how this rate and fee should be allocated,

1062
01:11:33,220 --> 01:11:42,740
I think Ed had set up a recommendation that the supervisor would go back to the board and the county council,

1063
01:11:42,740 --> 01:11:55,560
And say, is there any way, or is there a way where you can accomplish different rates, okay, and a different rate for short-term rules?

1064
01:11:55,980 --> 01:11:58,320
Is there a way, is that legal to do that?

1065
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:03,880
And I think that's what I think our supervisor felt comfortable, she could take to the board.

1066
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:09,280
So that I would see those two issues as kind of maybe coming together.

1067
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:09,780
The

1068
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,480
correct way was you can recommend that we received with this based on the answer.

1069
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,500
So, the carried capital came back and said, there is no way to do that we would receive.

1070
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,780
The carried capital said, there is a way we'd start again with how we would allocate.

1071
01:12:26,940 --> 01:12:31,460
We had to go back and start from the very beginning or just look at this particular component of that.

1072
01:12:31,460 --> 01:12:33,480
Well, we'd have to determine how to allocate.

1073
01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:38,900
But you're communicating against the same against the fixed of the fixed number.

1074
01:12:39,980 --> 01:12:43,460
You're allocating against a calculated number.

1075
01:12:43,460 --> 01:12:53,320
But if we say okay, go ahead and yes, generate a higher rate in the speed and pay the day.

1076
01:12:53,620 --> 01:12:59,800
But then beyond that, okay, we've got to look at a way how we can modify the collection of those.

1077
01:13:00,220 --> 01:13:02,820
I think it would be wise to get the sense of the community first.

1078
01:13:03,300 --> 01:13:06,280
How they go about the allocation before we proceed with the duty team process.

1079
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,220
I said we'll totally go.

1080
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:18,520
And I think, I see your hand ed, what I would say is that what I think what Sam was talking

1081
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:28,620
about is, if Council comes back and says, yes, you can't, there is a way, then Sam is

1082
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:35,020
going to have to figure out what is the difference that would result from that other approach

1083
01:13:35,020 --> 01:13:40,500
And how do you allocate that equitably, then, across the two,

1084
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:46,660
or call groups of solid waste customers?

1085
01:13:48,460 --> 01:13:49,900
Is it in my correct, Sam?

1086
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:51,080
Yeah.

1087
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:51,160
Yeah.

1088
01:13:51,220 --> 01:13:52,020
I agree.

1089
01:13:52,780 --> 01:13:58,360
I think if you come back without that answer being made, you're quite

1090
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,380
possibly will be not a rejection.

1091
01:14:01,380 --> 01:14:03,060
I think you come back with that answer.

1092
01:14:03,060 --> 01:14:09,220
then you'll get probably approval from the most of the people here.

1093
01:14:09,860 --> 01:14:15,080
I mean that's a big sticking point with most of the people here in the county.

1094
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,420
So we'd say that's the recommendation that you've received with this court.

1095
01:14:22,820 --> 01:14:28,580
No, we're just we're still gathering our thoughts on how best through our recommendation.

1096
01:14:28,580 --> 01:14:34,320
I'm just going to play that. That's why you're saying that we can proceed if County Council says.

1097
01:14:34,820 --> 01:14:39,540
So we want to start to a new process. County Council says there is no way the regulations are going to go ahead.

1098
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,840
We hope you have the new and start to a new process.

1099
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,740
We don't go ahead.

1100
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:51,610
There's a question here.

1101
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:11,160
We're going to go ahead and go ahead and figure out if they could help in some way. If you want them to come back for discussion here, or just welcome that, would you agree to accept what it is?

1102
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:24,920
We can just, if you're saying, that's the tricky part of what we're doing, because if we make a motion to be recognized, and it comes back, and they go to council.

1103
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:29,180
and a county council said, it can be done, but it has to be done this way.

1104
01:15:30,940 --> 01:15:33,920
You know, we as a community, we not like the way that affects us.

1105
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:40,780
I don't know that by default, you want to actually go with whatever happens out of it.

1106
01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:48,240
So I think you have to come back and say, what's your recommendation on what we do?

1107
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,840
I don't know if you want me to go.

1108
01:15:51,020 --> 01:15:51,840
But I wanted

1109
01:15:53,890 --> 01:15:56,470
to go with the way that the council

1110
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:59,730
is that suggested it can be, you know,

1111
01:16:00,670 --> 01:16:02,870
maybe a district, you know, a district of the courtroom.

1112
01:16:03,330 --> 01:16:06,410
So that's kind of, that's kind of it.

1113
01:16:07,050 --> 01:16:10,350
They need guidance on that part of it.

1114
01:16:10,910 --> 01:16:12,510
But I think the answer would be,

1115
01:16:12,750 --> 01:16:14,570
they'd have to come back and give us a choice.

1116
01:16:15,770 --> 01:16:16,810
That's my guide.

1117
01:16:17,830 --> 01:16:19,090
That's second advice to my body

1118
01:16:19,090 --> 01:16:23,190
do this survey every morning, five, 30 per month, again, a nice good average.

1119
01:16:24,210 --> 01:16:26,050
No, that helps come up with an energy.

1120
01:16:26,770 --> 01:16:27,630
This can't just happen.

1121
01:16:28,130 --> 01:16:29,490
Yeah, so I have to respond.

1122
01:16:29,650 --> 01:16:32,450
I hear about charging after for this.

1123
01:16:33,690 --> 01:16:37,490
I know that two agencies know that you can't do it.

1124
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:38,850
The county can't do it.

1125
01:16:39,130 --> 01:16:43,370
But can the renters, the renter, the renter, the renter, the renter, the renter,

1126
01:16:43,370 --> 01:16:50,270
and the patient, so you can take the kick under, you can make that a dollar and a dollar

1127
01:16:50,270 --> 01:16:57,410
and whatever to be rented. They collected, like I don't know what the money could go through,

1128
01:16:57,490 --> 01:17:04,680
the counting and directing to a college. Is that the kind of fee they've earned?

1129
01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:08,740
I don't know that. So, for your kind of thing,

1130
01:17:08,740 --> 01:17:12,540
that the rail agency wanted to stay on our business side here in the community.

1131
01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:15,340
We can maybe talk in into adding a dollar.

1132
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:22,120
Well, like Christians say, well, you know, let you read this, there's a dollar,

1133
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:27,580
I don't know the amount. A dollar and that extra little charge, you collect it,

1134
01:17:27,580 --> 01:17:28,480
and we go to a college.

1135
01:17:28,660 --> 01:17:30,960
Are you saying it'd be voluntary or it'd be mandatory?

1136
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:31,940
It's mandatory.

1137
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,480
But it's not going through the county, so it's going directly through a college,

1138
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:38,840
So it's not a two-in-pinage.

1139
01:17:39,220 --> 01:17:40,340
Why would it go this hard?

1140
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,760
Or I don't know, but if I was somebody who would

1141
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,660
offset the cost of art experience.

1142
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,380
At the Redwood wouldn't be with Roger Solner.

1143
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,060
The Redwood wouldn't be providing the service.

1144
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:54,920
So how would it make things that out?

1145
01:17:55,220 --> 01:17:55,840
Wait a minute.

1146
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:57,180
I'm sorry.

1147
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,680
So you didn't be already helpful.

1148
01:18:00,820 --> 01:18:03,920
You might refuse that we're adding on to all of our innovations

1149
01:18:06,700 --> 01:18:24,820
You know, you see it, you know, another few four dollars, so we can't do it really, but I mean, I don't think it should be done that way either, because we don't provide the service, we should collect it for all of that, I don't think so.

1150
01:18:24,820 --> 01:18:31,560
So, I mean, is it my order? Is it legal and that we don't? I just have to what you deserve?

1151
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:40,500
Yeah, so I think we can add that at question in to the, I think we know what Christians position is,

1152
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:47,040
but we can ask the theoretical question if it were possible, is it possible?

1153
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,880
And if it is, how would it be administered?

1154
01:18:51,300 --> 01:18:59,080
Because then, I mean, what you're putting on Christian in this case is it's an additional dollar per home.

1155
01:18:59,620 --> 01:19:06,340
And then he's got to get the money to somebody who then gets it to ecology.

1156
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,840
You know, we'd have to work through all of that.

1157
01:19:10,220 --> 01:19:15,080
So I think that's a conversation that we need to have offline.

1158
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:19,800
But I guess what, you know, and it'll be part of the conversation that we have with County Council.

1159
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:35,630
But I think what, if I understood Sam correctly, the next step would be, is it to go to the board and then hold a public hearing?

1160
01:19:39,450 --> 01:19:47,530
So then, and then there's a public hearing, and so at that point, we can lay it all out.

1161
01:19:48,010 --> 01:19:51,590
Potentially we could even have County Council away,

1162
01:19:52,110 --> 01:19:54,570
Collea, and I don't know if you could be able to come physically,

1163
01:19:55,250 --> 01:19:59,110
depends on where we hold the, and bring in an outside expert.

1164
01:19:59,110 --> 01:20:08,350
So I think what I would like to suggest is that we acknowledge that there are severe reservations

1165
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:15,050
about and across the board, rate increase, that Sam and I will go back and we'll talk

1166
01:20:15,050 --> 01:20:25,730
with County Council almost certainly consult with outside Council and then we'll move forward

1167
01:20:25,730 --> 01:20:33,190
either way, the only difference is dictated by what, by the response that we get from the

1168
01:20:33,190 --> 01:20:38,230
attorneys in terms of the information that we present. So it'll either be, it is not

1169
01:20:38,230 --> 01:20:46,450
legally possible or what is legally possible is the following. And Sam would be able to

1170
01:20:46,450 --> 01:20:50,750
back it up with any solid waste related technical knowledge.

1171
01:20:50,750 --> 01:20:55,890
But meanwhile, we'd be recommending the increase in the fee.

1172
01:20:56,110 --> 01:21:00,490
No, you're recommending that we proceed with the process.

1173
01:21:00,490 --> 01:21:01,370
It's okay.

1174
01:21:01,870 --> 01:21:13,730
Contention on having information available at the public hearing that definitively lays out whether it's possible or not.

1175
01:21:13,810 --> 01:21:17,450
And if it is possible, how that could work.

1176
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:35,800
Similarly, we basically close the discussion, bring it back to the committee, and then the committee have the same role discussion, you just have, and we go on that.

1177
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:37,180
We go on that.

1178
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:38,800
You don't vote.

1179
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:39,720
It's by consensus.

1180
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:40,820
I think it's what?

1181
01:21:40,820 --> 01:21:41,260
I would just...

1182
01:21:41,260 --> 01:21:41,500
I would just...

1183
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:41,520
I would just...

1184
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:41,720
I would just...

1185
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,000
I would just...

1186
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:51,360
Notting heads or thumbs up is usually what the Board gives me.

1187
01:21:51,360 --> 01:22:01,280
So, as long as there is more than the majority of you that are signifying yes, that's your direction and that's the direction of your committee.

1188
01:22:03,260 --> 01:22:11,660
In the Board of Supervisors, what she's talking about is we have a discussion and direction item and essentially that's what this is.

1189
01:22:11,660 --> 01:22:17,600
The board will talk about something and at the end of that conversation, they'll either be

1190
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:23,960
three plus heads nodding. Yes, let's do that or they'll be three heads plus saying no,

1191
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:28,960
I'm not going to do that. And that becomes the direction to stop. So that's what we're asking for here.

1192
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,860
Are recommendations that you the consensus what you just laid out. Yeah.

1193
01:22:39,580 --> 01:22:40,120
Yeah.

1194
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,600
of the subjects. Sorry David.

1195
01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:50,460
And because you give advice to the County Board of Supervisors, I would like you to give

1196
01:22:50,460 --> 01:22:52,460
the County Board of Supervisors.

1197
01:22:52,920 --> 01:23:00,100
So the guys, the new pickup be paid for by the county, and the large down.

1198
01:23:01,460 --> 01:23:04,840
The large item pickup be paid for by the county.

1199
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:14,840
Since county equipment, I need to use to pick up the needles and county employees are used to do that.

1200
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,240
There should be no charge to law enforcement.

1201
01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:25,360
For the 20,000 and 7,000 dollars should be taken out of the contract.

1202
01:23:30,060 --> 01:23:36,120
So, they're welcome to give whatever recommendation they choose.

1203
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:43,320
what I will tell you is that if we take that to county council, he will immediately say you

1204
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:48,020
can't do that. And it gets back to... Wait, wait, wait, wait. We can't do that.

1205
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:48,900
We can't do that. We can't do that.

1206
01:23:48,900 --> 01:23:49,080
We can't do that.

1207
01:23:49,700 --> 01:23:55,280
Well, no, you can make a recommendation. But if we take that recommendation to county council,

1208
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:02,640
he will say that is not legally possible. And the reason is because it gets into an area

1209
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:08,720
that I only know the margins of, you may know better than I do, but it's the concept

1210
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,580
of the gift of public funds.

1211
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:19,740
So it would be similar to me saying the same that I want you to come out to my property

1212
01:24:19,740 --> 01:24:24,680
and remove my material at no cost to me.

1213
01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:31,940
The answer is that the money that pays for his salary, whatever equipment he has to

1214
01:24:31,940 --> 01:24:39,240
to do that, it has to be shared, equitably, across all of the residents of Marcosa County.

1215
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,980
He can't do something specifically for me.

1216
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:47,100
I understand what the county is going to say to us.

1217
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:53,220
But the board, the soup of Roger Sheets, understand there's a feeling here about that.

1218
01:24:53,500 --> 01:25:00,680
And how do they get the feeling from this board that you don't think we should pay for anything?

1219
01:25:01,740 --> 01:25:10,700
Well, they can certainly include that in the recommendation, but what I can tell you is that it will not move forward on that basis.

1220
01:25:11,060 --> 01:25:22,360
But I think this is an opportunity for this committee to take a standard on something and maybe we ought to hold on.

1221
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,580
You can't vote on this one.

1222
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,700
Can't vote on this one.

1223
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,820
You can't vote on something that's not a gender issue.

1224
01:25:31,700 --> 01:25:32,200
I'm fine.

1225
01:25:33,340 --> 01:25:33,740
I'm fine.

1226
01:25:33,740 --> 01:25:33,760
I'm fine.

1227
01:25:38,260 --> 01:25:39,140
I'm fine.

1228
01:25:39,540 --> 01:25:40,820
My character again.

1229
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,980
Also David had recommended this impossible

1230
01:25:43,980 --> 01:25:45,920
of cost saving medical research

1231
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,100
for returning lowly-to-season

1232
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:51,820
for perhaps approaching

1233
01:25:51,820 --> 01:25:55,980
You recall, as you didn't see, there would be a cost reduction.

1234
01:25:56,420 --> 01:25:58,540
You could have not come up all the way in.

1235
01:25:58,980 --> 01:26:00,520
Now, I agree.

1236
01:26:01,500 --> 01:26:06,300
And do we want to consider that and your budget or is that just, I mean, I realize

1237
01:26:06,300 --> 01:26:10,060
this point I think we are going to say, say, something to say, we need to take my income out of

1238
01:26:10,620 --> 01:26:13,560
We're going to have to come take away and then we turn, that's going to cost you more.

1239
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,680
So I don't know if they want to consider this much enough for you, actually.

1240
01:26:25,970 --> 01:26:33,370
It seems to me that if you want to give yourself a material to you, it's going to be a question

1241
01:26:33,370 --> 01:26:40,810
as to the nature of you and to what you use to punish the people.

1242
01:26:41,890 --> 01:26:46,250
Why are you shoving this and where this is my job?

1243
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:57,800
I don't have rental property, but if I had rental property, I'd be saying I'm connecting this,

1244
01:26:58,740 --> 01:27:06,700
it affects my potential to rent, and so to pay certain things, and it could be binding,

1245
01:27:07,420 --> 01:27:10,600
it could be garbage, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

1246
01:27:12,140 --> 01:27:14,540
I don't think I understand your question, Roger.

1247
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,340
And what's that's the same conversation we had at the last meeting?

1248
01:27:18,340 --> 01:27:23,660
Yeah, I'm saying if you have over the question of the T.O.T.

1249
01:27:24,700 --> 01:27:26,340
Corrected by the county.

1250
01:27:27,540 --> 01:27:30,420
What authority does it have to use those funds?

1251
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,320
Where else does one be you?

1252
01:27:33,940 --> 01:27:37,200
And those funds are paid specifically by a reddish.

1253
01:27:37,740 --> 01:27:40,520
And reddish can treat you more garbage expense

1254
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,840
than the county should allocate money there.

1255
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:54,840
And we think else that the renters increase down the expenses, then that's where DOT should go proportionally.

1256
01:27:56,980 --> 01:28:01,480
I'm not an expert on tax costs in California.

1257
01:28:01,480 --> 01:28:03,120
And I asked you that.

1258
01:28:03,660 --> 01:28:04,200
Mark is so.

1259
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:07,380
So two of the T-Tax is basically hotel tax.

1260
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:12,460
And one of the concepts is that hotels increase services

1261
01:28:12,460 --> 01:28:13,440
in the community.

1262
01:28:13,940 --> 01:28:16,480
And these garbage, these the robes, these utilities,

1263
01:28:16,860 --> 01:28:17,300
and everything.

1264
01:28:18,060 --> 01:28:21,520
So part of the reason is T-T will offset

1265
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,760
the extra expense that tourists

1266
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,740
will visit first and then receive the hotel

1267
01:28:27,740 --> 01:28:29,020
of generous.

1268
01:28:29,020 --> 01:28:38,960
So what I think we're saying is that the TOT tax is that the county gets pretty much goes into the general front of the correct.

1269
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,980
Yes, 100% doesn't go into any specific.

1270
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:51,900
But the county can allocate that general front choose specific expenses that the county doesn't have.

1271
01:28:52,860 --> 01:28:54,960
Or I'm not sure how you guys do.

1272
01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:11,040
But what I think a lot of things in that is that there is an increase in usage of garbage or extensive in the world because of the increase in the tourists that are renting.

1273
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:19,000
They're paying a T-O-T-X that is increasing the cost of the loans and all that stuff.

1274
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:23,760
That should come back, maybe, to the one that else that exists.

1275
01:29:25,340 --> 01:29:31,100
Okay, I understand that argument, it's a conversation that I've had with some frequency in

1276
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:39,280
facility west and for rest and some of the other districts here in the district or communities

1277
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:39,860
and district.

1278
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:40,880
Pretty long.

1279
01:29:40,980 --> 01:29:46,860
Presidents, in this case, it's a additional dollar per whole house.

1280
01:29:47,580 --> 01:29:55,560
He's got to get the money to somebody, and what it says to the ecology, you know, we have

1281
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,080
to work through all of that.

1282
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,960
So I think that's a conversation that...

1283
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:07,320
We need to have it has lines, but I guess it's part of the conversation, or it's because it can't necessarily share.

1284
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:28,240
But I think my order is what, if I understood Samire, can I fire that benefit everyone? And so those are the roads. Those are the types of allocations that are made from the general fund.

1285
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:32,180
and they benefit all residents of America's county.

1286
01:30:32,940 --> 01:30:38,800
We cannot, and I can't cite specific provisions in statute

1287
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,060
if we need those, I can get them.

1288
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,980
But I guess one, it's an empty part of the conversation.

1289
01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:46,740
We're just going to get some things to share.

1290
01:30:46,860 --> 01:30:57,100
They think I understood Samire can we fire that benefit everyone?

1291
01:30:57,100 --> 01:31:09,640
And so those are the types of allocations that are made from the general fund and they benefit all

1292
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,440
all the resistance in the North Pole's encounter.

1293
01:31:11,580 --> 01:31:14,900
It's our same, we're cannot, and I can't,

1294
01:31:15,020 --> 01:31:18,140
I'm sorry, I'm specific, provisions in statute,

1295
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,460
if we don't, don't, so I can get down.

1296
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,800
This way, excuse me, I'm the police,

1297
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:24,880
and I'm trying to get this, but you're not,

1298
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,100
I think I'm the police.

1299
01:31:29,740 --> 01:31:30,760
And I'm the police.

1300
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:31,540
And I'm the police.

1301
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:32,900
I'm the police.

1302
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:35,120
I'm the police.

1303
01:31:35,340 --> 01:31:36,300
I'm the police.

1304
01:31:36,300 --> 01:31:48,240
Okay, so those are those, those, those are the types of applications that are made from junk, fun, everything, everything.

1305
01:33:03,500 --> 01:33:09,540
Actually I am so sorry for that you guys just let me know.

1306
01:33:11,740 --> 01:33:17,160
I confident that you will see what the hell would happen if I finish up the game first.

1307
01:33:36,010 --> 01:33:36,290
Married one.

1308
01:33:36,290 --> 01:33:37,050
Yeah it's not gonna work!

1309
01:33:37,670 --> 01:33:38,090
I'm sorry for that.

1310
01:33:38,090 --> 01:33:38,710
It's not gonna work.

1311
01:33:39,010 --> 01:33:39,970
The first time you translate?

1312
01:38:39,480 --> 01:38:40,440
I've said it in the sound.

1313
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:40,880
Thanks for having a hard time.

1314
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:14,860
As the clerk of the board, I'm the keeper of Telling Records. And so I happened to come across that line after he has said he said he didn't know I'd take it. But I talked to his grandmother, Rachel, and then his ex, who was doing it on the building.

1315
01:45:14,860 --> 01:45:16,440
There's still a lot of time.

1316
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:20,140
There's still a lot of time.

1317
01:45:20,140 --> 01:45:20,460
There's still a lot.

1318
01:45:20,860 --> 01:45:22,320
Take the card number, something.

1319
01:45:22,860 --> 01:45:23,580
Let's get some notes.

1320
01:45:24,260 --> 01:45:26,980
Grandpa, Grandpa has to wait a couple years ago.

1321
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:27,800
Harold's nine.

1322
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:28,840
But he's wife.

1323
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,160
Rachel, Tom, she's alive.

1324
01:45:32,380 --> 01:45:33,220
So I know.

1325
01:45:33,380 --> 01:45:34,880
The stole those she was kind of.

1326
01:45:36,060 --> 01:45:37,040
Found her.

1327
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:37,580
I'll call her.

1328
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:38,560
I'll call her.

1329
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:39,100
I'll call her.

1330
01:45:39,100 --> 01:45:40,620
I'll call her.

1331
01:45:41,140 --> 01:45:41,820
I'll call her.

1332
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:43,260
I'll call her.

1333
01:45:43,380 --> 01:45:43,940
I'll call her.

1334
01:45:43,940 --> 01:45:48,220
all of our records, and that'd be nice to have anything with this video, I guess we can

1335
01:45:48,220 --> 01:45:52,740
play it in some kind of system. I just like going to be talking about water in both of them.

1336
01:45:53,260 --> 01:45:59,200
And some of the records are packed. I'm going to write to you on the idea of the IDL, so I'm going

1337
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:00,640
to be a person to that discussion.

1338
01:46:01,020 --> 01:46:06,060
Yes, and I know the Grandpa Harold's on the water rights for one time, and they used to build

1339
01:46:06,060 --> 01:46:08,200
for water and a lot of them.

1340
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:11,420
So what's your job together?

1341
01:46:11,420 --> 01:46:13,780
So I'm not gonna play for the board.

1342
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:15,300
Is this a special tech keyboard?

1343
01:46:16,340 --> 01:46:19,380
I did keep keeping doing this so I keep it close.

1344
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:22,940
So I started off with the code reporter type?

1345
01:46:23,220 --> 01:46:24,940
No, no, no, no.

1346
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:27,720
Did you do the minutes for those?

1347
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:28,780
The speedy network, right?

1348
01:46:29,660 --> 01:46:31,300
So I was saying whoever did it,

1349
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,260
who told me, really wanted to put down a title here in here.

1350
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:34,640
Of course.

1351
01:46:36,060 --> 01:46:38,600
The tape recorder over here probably here in the second one.

1352
01:46:38,740 --> 01:46:39,480
I said I'll be there.

1353
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:40,280
So.

1354
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,220
So, this is a great job.

1355
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:44,620
Yes, well, I didn't do the minute to last time.

1356
01:46:44,620 --> 01:46:46,780
I'm just doing them because I'm here today.

1357
01:46:47,540 --> 01:46:48,560
I do them.

1358
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:50,500
The support is supervisors minutes.

1359
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:52,000
And I helped with the agenda.

1360
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:53,860
And she...

1361
01:46:53,860 --> 01:46:54,320
You do it.

1362
01:46:54,620 --> 01:46:55,240
And we'll work.

1363
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:56,300
You piece of paper.

1364
01:46:56,700 --> 01:46:57,720
I do it in real work.

1365
01:46:58,600 --> 01:46:58,780
Yeah.

1366
01:46:59,180 --> 01:47:00,600
And then I go back in.

1367
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:02,180
And then I keep on with notes.

1368
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:04,000
And then I take them down to what's perfect.

1369
01:47:04,500 --> 01:47:05,600
So, what's your target tree?

1370
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:06,980
I don't know.

1371
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:08,420
Probably pretty good.

1372
01:47:10,900 --> 01:47:13,680
It's very hard to do that.

1373
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:14,620
It's a child's lesson.

1374
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:15,460
It's a child.

1375
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,200
You don't have time to come back or fix time to save because it's still dark.

1376
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,980
Yeah, well, that's kind of what we did.

1377
01:47:23,940 --> 01:47:26,500
But actually, the room in it's not necessarily life.

1378
01:47:26,500 --> 01:47:26,680
Right.

1379
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:27,880
For me now.

1380
01:47:29,740 --> 01:47:31,280
But that's what helped me.

1381
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:31,980
I've been reported.

1382
01:47:32,940 --> 01:47:33,660
I'm having it available.

1383
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:34,660
I'm having it.

1384
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:37,000
Yeah.

1385
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:38,180
Yeah.

1386
01:47:38,580 --> 01:47:40,240
World of Consciousness.

1387
01:47:41,380 --> 01:47:43,080
This is an outstair hard to explore.

1388
01:47:43,260 --> 01:47:45,720
This is my land, more than the whole world is a nice place.

1389
01:47:45,780 --> 01:47:46,360
Oh really?

1390
01:47:46,500 --> 01:47:48,820
We're in a very familiar house.

1391
01:47:49,700 --> 01:47:50,880
So they are mine here.

1392
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:51,620
Thank you.

1393
01:47:51,900 --> 01:47:52,100
Thank you.

1394
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:54,220
Yeah.

1395
01:47:54,980 --> 01:47:56,100
I am so.

1396
01:47:56,500 --> 01:47:57,660
My husband is here.

1397
01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,300
I'm sure he's right.

1398
01:47:59,300 --> 01:47:59,560
Okay.

1399
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:01,400
I'm sure he's right.

1400
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:03,300
I'm sure he's right.

1401
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:04,360
Yeah.

1402
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:05,200
I know.

1403
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:11,060
Our family's really like most of us are really sad that they sold the rental house here

1404
01:48:11,060 --> 01:48:21,000
So like what my husband and I we have a son he's too and my sister in law she's got three kids and so all all in Bob's friend

1405
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,420
You know grandkids and we wish we still have some of that

1406
01:48:24,420 --> 01:48:26,460
To bring our kids to the feet

1407
01:48:27,540 --> 01:48:28,660
Oh, really

1408
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:39,060
We were in one time, and all of them were in the other cell.

1409
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:40,960
Yeah.

1410
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:41,340
Yeah.

1411
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:43,700
I know we at Christ's...

1412
01:48:43,700 --> 01:48:44,480
...my husband's here.

1413
01:48:44,620 --> 01:48:47,200
Christ's a she'll come up and rent the house sometimes...

1414
01:48:47,940 --> 01:48:49,020
...to bring her son up here.

1415
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:50,200
Just so they're still there.

1416
01:48:50,300 --> 01:48:50,860
We're at eight.

1417
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:52,040
No, they'll take...

1418
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:52,940
...try to rent the house.

1419
01:48:53,180 --> 01:48:54,060
That used to be so bad.

1420
01:48:54,580 --> 01:48:55,520
He's a grandpa here.

1421
01:48:56,180 --> 01:48:56,920
I don't know that.

1422
01:48:58,480 --> 01:49:00,380
Yeah, but they will rent it.

1423
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:00,660
Yeah.

1424
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,360
They sold it up years ago.

1425
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:09,380
The one that I'm going to need to do is make a difference.

1426
01:49:09,380 --> 01:49:10,440
We have it in a different place.

1427
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,060
Yeah. There's a manual, a ramp down here.

1428
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,620
There was a car from the 90's to the top.

1429
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,440
There is a car from the 90's to the center.

1430
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:23,720
I'm not sure if I can see the house.

1431
01:49:24,060 --> 01:49:25,380
I don't even know.

1432
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:27,900
Yeah, I'm not sure if you could,

1433
01:49:27,900 --> 01:49:34,160
It was an army sexual violence, but we brought it in two parts.

1434
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:35,140
Okay.

1435
01:49:35,140 --> 01:49:41,360
From the military, from the States, and also in the hospital, in the hospital, in the hospital.

1436
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:43,180
Next, the regional hospital.

1437
01:49:44,260 --> 01:49:44,480
Yeah.

1438
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,860
It was also an army sexual war.

1439
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,180
We're all going to need that we had to go into the war.

1440
01:49:50,140 --> 01:49:51,220
And that's where the fire was.

1441
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:53,940
I guess you're still in the church.

1442
01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:57,420
And that can be two different restaurants.

1443
01:49:58,060 --> 01:49:59,540
We'll talk to you tonight.

1444
01:49:59,580 --> 01:50:00,420
And tonight.

1445
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:03,860
We'll be in the church.

1446
01:50:04,260 --> 01:50:05,700
I guess we're still in the church.

1447
01:50:06,420 --> 01:50:07,040
Hey, yeah.

1448
01:50:07,860 --> 01:50:08,720
There you go.

1449
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,700
That was one of the hard ones for my heart.

1450
01:50:13,140 --> 01:50:13,980
That was the stone.

1451
01:50:14,380 --> 01:50:15,440
That was the stone.

1452
01:50:16,540 --> 01:50:18,100
So we did with that.

1453
01:50:18,940 --> 01:50:19,140
Good morning.

1454
01:50:23,980 --> 01:50:24,540
Okay.

1455
01:50:26,140 --> 01:50:28,180
The hotel is currently there.

1456
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:28,940
Watch out.

1457
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:29,540
Watch out.

1458
01:50:30,340 --> 01:50:31,600
I have a couple of the guys.

1459
01:50:32,420 --> 01:50:33,000
I know.

1460
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:34,800
I know that.

1461
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,060
You know that?

1462
01:50:38,060 --> 01:50:39,060
You know it's really good.

1463
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:40,160
It's really good.

1464
01:50:40,980 --> 01:50:41,240
I know.

1465
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:42,420
Mom.

1466
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:45,100
Did you just call me right now?

1467
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:46,040
I didn't.

1468
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:46,520
I meant to turn.

1469
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,580
It's a small piece of cake.

1470
01:50:49,380 --> 01:50:50,440
I've got it.

1471
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:52,060
I might just not take it.

1472
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,720
Is that the microphone's going to open for this?

1473
01:50:55,060 --> 01:50:55,380
Is there a problem?

1474
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,180
I'm having trouble hearing some of the streets.

1475
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:01,140
I think there's a lot of people people.

1476
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:02,400
There's no.

1477
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:04,080
There's no.

1478
01:51:04,260 --> 01:51:04,940
There's no.

1479
01:51:04,940 --> 01:51:06,800
There's a lot of people who don't know.

1480
01:51:07,580 --> 01:51:09,340
There's a lot of people.

1481
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:10,060
There's a lot of people.

1482
01:51:10,820 --> 01:51:11,060
There's a lot of people.

1483
01:51:11,060 --> 01:51:11,640
Are you Roger?

1484
01:51:11,860 --> 01:51:12,080
Yeah.

1485
01:51:12,700 --> 01:51:13,940
But you can't.

1486
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,500
And he's the big ol' candidate.

1487
01:51:22,940 --> 01:51:26,700
All right, it's about 10 minutes until 9 minutes before 11.

1488
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:31,240
So we're resume the meeting of a warm-town plan advisory committee.

1489
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:41,820
Now, the next item on the agenda is the E2 presentation.

1490
01:51:42,440 --> 01:51:45,620
It's a presentation from Mayor Full-Second County's

1491
01:51:45,620 --> 01:51:52,640
study or short-term rentals in the county from Ben and Groger, Ben Groger housing development

1492
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:53,240
specialists.

1493
01:51:53,500 --> 01:51:54,340
That must be you, Ben.

1494
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:56,080
It's now.

1495
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:57,440
And Groger.

1496
01:51:57,740 --> 01:52:01,640
Briefly, as I mentioned, some of the folks in the audience were having trouble hearing

1497
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:03,400
members of the committee.

1498
01:52:04,440 --> 01:52:04,740
And back.

1499
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,960
So remember, two things that are important.

1500
01:52:08,740 --> 01:52:14,100
One, mention your name when you get up and speak that way, the Secretary can pick up the

1501
01:52:14,100 --> 01:52:21,620
adults. And then, too, use your best command voice, so I'll speak loud enough so people can hear it

1502
01:52:21,620 --> 01:52:26,800
around you. And when you're good at that, so you can give instruction. Okay, maybe.

1503
01:52:27,740 --> 01:52:31,200
Yeah. Is it better that we have questions? We're not close to question.

1504
01:52:31,480 --> 01:52:38,340
Wait a minute. You know, that is a good point. I think, typically, it's best to wait for the

1505
01:52:38,340 --> 01:52:39,500
That's the presentation.

1506
01:52:39,980 --> 01:52:42,240
That's the presenter to give to the entire presentation.

1507
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,400
And then make comments that have taken down

1508
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,240
as if comments come to mind.

1509
01:52:49,700 --> 01:52:51,200
But then we'll deal with that later.

1510
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:52,400
Thank you.

1511
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:53,220
Nice.

1512
01:52:54,340 --> 01:52:54,840
Good to meet you.

1513
01:52:55,300 --> 01:52:56,300
Yeah, and thank you all.

1514
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,640
I appreciate the opportunity to be here today.

1515
01:52:58,980 --> 01:53:01,260
And kind of talk a little bit about Mariposa County

1516
01:53:01,260 --> 01:53:03,400
short-term rental study that we've been conducting.

1517
01:53:04,940 --> 01:53:07,360
First of all, I want to get a little background

1518
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:14,240
on this group. We did some community outreach in the library in June. I know a few of you

1519
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:20,420
attended, but come out of hands with people there. It seems to me as an okay, like, one year.

1520
01:53:20,820 --> 01:53:25,540
Yeah, things are okay. Well that's good, but it sounds like there's a lot of you who also

1521
01:53:25,540 --> 01:53:31,040
weren't there. And so some of this might be new to you. Just a quick question. How many of you

1522
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:36,180
were able to participate in the short-term rental community survey? Good more. That's good.

1523
01:53:36,180 --> 01:53:38,200
All right, happy to hear that.

1524
01:53:38,340 --> 01:53:42,340
We did have quite a few people from Alona participating in that.

1525
01:53:42,460 --> 01:53:43,560
We appreciate your respect.

1526
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:46,280
A little background on myself.

1527
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:51,180
So I'm Ben Gogor in the Maritosa County Housing Community Development Specialist.

1528
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,080
I work in Maritosa County Administration.

1529
01:53:54,480 --> 01:53:58,820
And I do mostly special projects related to housing and legacy planning.

1530
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:01,120
I think it's like that capital improvement projects.

1531
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,440
But before that, I worked for the Park Service for 19 years.

1532
01:54:04,440 --> 01:54:07,640
I was really happy to hear the dumpster conversation.

1533
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:13,100
I ran a matter district maintenance operations, so I ran to Holy Menos, and the North

1534
01:54:13,100 --> 01:54:16,740
Time, the Parks for all our years, and I had to also get those dumpsters out there.

1535
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,300
Yes, trash does pile up behind them, and it's a hassle.

1536
01:54:21,540 --> 01:54:25,640
I also worked as an Historic Preservation Institute for the Parks for four years, and spent

1537
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:30,980
a lot of time right in your guys' community here, working on paying your history center

1538
01:54:30,980 --> 01:54:32,160
in the hotel part of there.

1539
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:33,360
So, good to be here today.

1540
01:54:33,980 --> 01:54:37,680
And happy to run through the short-term rental study.

1541
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,960
A little background of how this study came to be,

1542
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,440
this was an item that has been directed by the Board of Supervisors

1543
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:49,240
for many years, basically, for us to address short-term rentals,

1544
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:54,040
monitor them, see if we can qualify any impacts,

1545
01:54:54,980 --> 01:54:58,340
particularly related to affordable housing and workforce housing,

1546
01:54:58,860 --> 01:55:02,280
and then come up with mitigation to those impacts.

1547
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:09,780
those are found to be true. So it's something that had been brought up to the board since 2014,

1548
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:17,860
and we just didn't get around to it. The recent increase in the short-term rental industry worldwide,

1549
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:23,640
as well in our community and the market prices that are associated with that broader board of

1550
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:29,980
us here to the point where they wanted to look at it more thoroughly, staff prepared, some really good

1551
01:55:29,980 --> 01:55:37,060
market analysis, and the board actually directed staff to look into a potential moratorium

1552
01:55:37,060 --> 01:55:42,280
on issuing short-term vacation rental transit occupancy certificates.

1553
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,380
That was something we looked at in October of this year.

1554
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:56,960
It was never wrapped before the board, essentially some voting technologies or nits

1555
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:11,060
The American Reinvestment Recovery Act money to begin this set up to the point where if you wanted to look at it more thoroughly, staff prepared for a good market analysis and

1556
01:56:11,060 --> 01:56:12,780
the board actually directed.

1557
01:56:13,460 --> 01:56:15,700
We staffed it into a part of the Division of Mortuary.

1558
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:21,380
We should ensure a treatment of the patient's role in transparency and policies to take this.

1559
01:56:21,820 --> 01:56:24,260
That was something we looked at in October of this year.

1560
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:26,740
There was never ready for the board.

1561
01:56:27,420 --> 01:56:28,660
The social health.

1562
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:30,960
Our dealing with short-term rentals.

1563
01:56:31,340 --> 01:56:34,700
So we're working closely with them for economic analysis.

1564
01:56:35,620 --> 01:56:40,000
And then the county is taking on the community impact analysis ourselves

1565
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,720
that are trying to contract out too much work, keep it in-house.

1566
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:53,660
In your packet that you receive, you actually receive two different slide decks, essentially.

1567
01:56:54,420 --> 01:56:57,060
One was a slide deck from the economic analysis.

1568
01:56:57,780 --> 01:57:01,120
The other is the short-term rental survey results.

1569
01:57:02,900 --> 01:57:07,000
If I went through all these slides, we would be here for a long time.

1570
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,980
each one of these presentations is long.

1571
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:15,160
So I'm going to skip over the economic analysis of that,

1572
01:57:15,260 --> 01:57:18,700
trusting that you have the ability to review those in your packet,

1573
01:57:19,260 --> 01:57:22,700
touch on a couple of the high points of that economic analysis,

1574
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:26,300
and then if people want to have our questions,

1575
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,200
or want to get further into it, we can discuss that.

1576
01:57:29,740 --> 01:57:34,700
We did have that analysis presented at the library in June,

1577
01:57:34,700 --> 01:57:50,260
and we picked up a bunch of questions from Walona folks and that was really good, but kind of the main points behind the economic analysis of the short-term rental industry within the county in general is that it is an important part of tourist accommodations.

1578
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:56,700
It makes up over a third of our bet count of tourist accommodations.

1579
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:04,080
We can help this of that trusting that you have the ability to review those in your packet,

1580
01:58:04,420 --> 01:58:10,760
touch on a couple of the high points of that economic analysis, and then people who are not to have,

1581
01:58:10,820 --> 01:58:14,620
our applications are going to get all the branches down, we can discuss that.

1582
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:21,620
We did have that analysis presented at the library in June, and we picked up a bunch of questions

1583
01:58:21,620 --> 01:58:24,640
from the low and the fair to say that that's really good.

1584
01:58:25,860 --> 01:58:30,240
But kind of the main point is the anti-exconomic analysis of the short-term rental

1585
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:35,360
industry within a county in general, because it is a sort of part of tourist accommodation.

1586
01:58:36,660 --> 01:58:42,100
It makes up over a third of our bedcounter of tourist accommodations.

1587
01:58:43,180 --> 01:58:44,660
This is going to happen.

1588
01:58:45,540 --> 01:58:51,600
Trusting that you have the ability to review those in your packet, it's actually going to

1589
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:55,700
in L.C.C. and then we're going to put those arms together.

1590
01:58:56,020 --> 01:58:59,900
There are a couple of shoes from making all the arrangements together to discuss that.

1591
01:58:59,940 --> 01:59:05,060
We did as much as an emphasis presented at the library in June.

1592
02:00:05,060 --> 02:00:06,200
So that

1593
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:30,440
was

1594
02:12:09,800 --> 02:12:17,440
interesting to see people looking for solutions through some type of bespoke regulation.

1595
02:12:22,910 --> 02:12:32,130
And the majority of folks really just support some type of short-term rental policy, and most of them is just a limit.

1596
02:12:32,710 --> 02:12:50,330
A lot of people out there really do want to, I don't want to call it a knee jerk reaction, but they see this as an issue for the community and issue for their availability to purchase a home

1597
02:12:50,330 --> 02:12:54,930
they would just like to have it stop or put the brakes on it,

1598
02:12:58,510 --> 02:12:59,950
we're getting beaten up here.

1599
02:13:02,380 --> 02:13:06,920
So yeah, so that's good to know because that's a large portion of the population that

1600
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:09,240
does feel that way and we want to hear them.

1601
02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:10,600
Next slide please Steve.

1602
02:13:14,130 --> 02:13:20,670
So we looked a little bit at the folks that responded, we could break it into these different

1603
02:13:20,670 --> 02:13:25,630
groups, teachers, scientific, technical, park service employees, healthcare professionals,

1604
02:13:25,970 --> 02:13:30,190
career professionals, retired individuals and emergency services.

1605
02:13:32,310 --> 02:13:36,750
We heard a lot from these different groups, and we can just run through a few things

1606
02:13:36,750 --> 02:13:40,730
that they said, or if you've looked at your board packet there and there, Steve, if you

1607
02:13:40,730 --> 02:13:48,650
can forward that, we can look at a few things, but this goes back to working class middle-class

1608
02:13:48,650 --> 02:13:55,870
individuals are really struggling essentially and they're looking for housing solutions and they

1609
02:13:55,870 --> 02:14:04,670
identify torture and rentals as as impeding their housing solutions so we can read through

1610
02:14:04,670 --> 02:14:10,610
our methods and there's they have things to say and we listen and Steve you can probably just

1611
02:14:10,610 --> 02:14:16,860
kind of flip through these next few ones here it's in the packet and we can keep flipping through

1612
02:14:17,740 --> 02:14:24,880
keep the control. I miss I miss I'm a slide in here. I did a little breakout if I

1613
02:14:24,880 --> 02:14:29,620
won't want it for you guys but maybe go to the next one and see if the seat

1614
02:14:29,620 --> 02:14:37,420
pops up. All right now am I didn't get included? But essentially we looked at

1615
02:14:37,420 --> 02:14:41,580
we'll bone out here a little bit to see what is the community feeling about

1616
02:14:41,580 --> 02:14:48,280
So the terminal is here out of the 144 people that is found there, from Urbana towards

1617
02:14:48,280 --> 02:14:55,460
short-term rentals, and about two-thirds of them were short-term rental operators or

1618
02:14:55,460 --> 02:14:59,980
own homes that they short-term rent, and they would like to.

1619
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:20,900
Continue doing that. And about one-third of them were non-owners. For the most part, those were people who were teachers, firefighters, some retired individuals, and they were, they would like to have some type of regulation, so to true criminal opinion.

1620
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:29,800
So as we move forward with this process, what we're at right now is we've pretty much concluded our community input session.

1621
02:15:29,800 --> 02:15:37,880
section of the study, and we are still definitely garnering public comments and if there's great ideas from

1622
02:15:39,680 --> 02:15:46,720
experience individuals like you all in over and here. We're happy to pull those in as we're moving forward

1623
02:15:47,700 --> 02:15:54,460
but we will be coming back around with the actual draft document, probably in mid-Optober

1624
02:15:54,460 --> 02:16:00,140
And we will circulate that through the community before it goes to the Board of Supervisors.

1625
02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:08,600
So it's not one of those things where it comes out on a Thursday and it's a big huge study in the board needs to make a decision on it.

1626
02:16:08,600 --> 02:16:11,020
It comes out of Thursday and it needs to be decision on Tuesday.

1627
02:16:12,080 --> 02:16:18,800
We've tried to have a lot of community input through this whole process and we want to continue that all the way to the end.

1628
02:16:19,740 --> 02:16:31,900
So, scam by for that, if you have or not on our emailing list right now, we have a huge emailing list that we are circulating up in this project.

1629
02:16:32,660 --> 02:16:39,720
If you're not on that, please come see me if you'd like to be updated or include you on the list so that you can be notified earlier than later.

1630
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:46,080
And then we'll also have it to notify through social media at various different communities.

1631
02:16:47,900 --> 02:16:51,440
All right, and with that, give it back to you, chair.

1632
02:16:52,300 --> 02:16:53,460
And you put the out of the back hand.

1633
02:16:53,760 --> 02:16:54,200
I have a question.

1634
02:16:55,880 --> 02:16:55,980
Hi.

1635
02:16:56,460 --> 02:16:57,320
Roger someone out.

1636
02:16:58,100 --> 02:17:02,460
I want to assume you don't want to discourage the best in construction.

1637
02:17:04,160 --> 02:17:09,400
And I suspect that they don't fire what you want to write in the 70th question.

1638
02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:22,180
I have an empty lock here in my room

1639
02:17:24,580 --> 02:17:39,620
and I have to decide whether to build it or not, I could be discouraged depending on the taxes that said to me, so I assume that I look at the moment as a very unique area, different from the rest of the county.

1640
02:17:40,980 --> 02:17:46,900
And as I think you pointed out, and forward, is looking in different areas of, I know,

1641
02:17:46,960 --> 02:17:47,640
which is right.

1642
02:17:48,640 --> 02:17:55,220
Because I would think you would want to encourage to build out the blocks here, which may

1643
02:17:55,220 --> 02:18:09,600
have an impact on fewer lots being bent back to the county for rentals, many other

1644
02:18:12,060 --> 02:18:23,120
to perhaps purchase lots within the county and build and land there that would help some of your problems.

1645
02:18:23,980 --> 02:18:33,700
Now, I was hoping with contractors who are expressed their concern because they've lost some of their people couldn't find a place to live.

1646
02:18:33,700 --> 02:18:39,040
and move to a way, obviously, in a way, the whole situation,

1647
02:18:39,460 --> 02:18:42,500
that goes to the back of the counties in some way.

1648
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:48,740
So it's somehow you can encourage more healthy, somehow

1649
02:18:48,740 --> 02:18:53,280
support that, and encourage popular users

1650
02:18:53,280 --> 02:18:55,940
to now hopefully, that help.

1651
02:18:55,940 --> 02:18:57,780
There's no solution, I understand.

1652
02:18:58,940 --> 02:19:02,300
But to discourage investment, that's

1653
02:19:02,300 --> 02:19:05,060
You have to keep it in the presence, you know.

1654
02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:11,280
Yeah, locally, in the nation,

1655
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:14,600
this is skit, all of them are so high.

1656
02:19:14,720 --> 02:19:17,320
They're building the best food for the retirement,

1657
02:19:17,640 --> 02:19:20,200
but whatever, that will help.

1658
02:19:22,620 --> 02:19:23,440
That's all for you.

1659
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:24,640
Thank you, Chair.

1660
02:19:25,640 --> 02:19:26,140
Yeah, finally.

1661
02:19:27,020 --> 02:19:28,080
Ben, thanks so much.

1662
02:19:28,280 --> 02:19:29,460
Again, for being here.

1663
02:19:29,960 --> 02:19:31,520
It's always a pleasure to hear from you.

1664
02:19:31,520 --> 02:19:35,720
And obviously, this is a very interesting and critical issue

1665
02:19:35,720 --> 02:19:36,560
to the town.

1666
02:19:37,420 --> 02:19:40,500
Can you just update us and maybe I missed it in the presentation?

1667
02:19:41,360 --> 02:19:43,380
But can you update us on what discussions

1668
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:47,500
or progress is being made with the park service,

1669
02:19:47,880 --> 02:19:52,180
with respect to creating a solution that

1670
02:19:52,180 --> 02:19:55,960
would create affordable housing for the many, many people

1671
02:19:55,960 --> 02:20:00,020
who need it, who are working, either in the park

1672
02:20:00,020 --> 02:20:03,920
We're supporting the part in the gateway community.

1673
02:20:04,480 --> 02:20:06,400
Thank you.

1674
02:20:06,400 --> 02:20:07,940
Yeah, thank you for bringing that up.

1675
02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:14,120
The park service, I should note that one of the main themes that we heard when we

1676
02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:16,660
talked to the community was the park service.

1677
02:20:16,840 --> 02:20:19,160
And actually Steve, if you can go back one slide.

1678
02:20:20,440 --> 02:20:22,980
And I did glaze over this as a matter of fact.

1679
02:20:25,740 --> 02:20:28,440
One of the main themes that we heard is,

1680
02:20:28,440 --> 02:20:32,180
any city national park be more involved in housing solutions.

1681
02:20:33,100 --> 02:20:35,300
These committees critical to the community,

1682
02:20:35,640 --> 02:20:40,120
NPS employees and community members are looking to them for housing solutions.

1683
02:20:40,280 --> 02:20:41,840
So they are looking to the park service.

1684
02:20:43,240 --> 02:20:46,460
So we work very closely with the park service.

1685
02:20:48,340 --> 02:20:52,900
I'm trying to address these different challenges they have.

1686
02:20:52,900 --> 02:21:00,340
And it's complex because they are behoven to a whole slew of federal federal law essentially

1687
02:21:00,340 --> 02:21:04,140
that governs direct regulation, governs housing.

1688
02:21:05,400 --> 02:21:11,860
So in January of this year, we ended up publishing the integrated mobility and housing strategies

1689
02:21:11,860 --> 02:21:12,980
study document.

1690
02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:19,180
That's a document that the Park Service worked with with Mariposa County, Mariposa County

1691
02:21:19,180 --> 02:21:22,380
was the primary project manager on that.

1692
02:21:22,880 --> 02:21:26,560
But we have been looking to identify housing sites,

1693
02:21:27,160 --> 02:21:31,500
strategies, combined they can potentially become a solution

1694
02:21:31,500 --> 02:21:36,200
if the right policy is in place to support the correct type

1695
02:21:36,200 --> 02:21:37,300
of financing mechanism.

1696
02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:38,980
It's very complex.

1697
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:43,040
But just to let you know what actual policy,

1698
02:21:43,300 --> 02:21:44,960
so the conversation's happening.

1699
02:21:46,240 --> 02:21:51,420
And on multiple scales and on five rare poses is so intimately involved in that.

1700
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:59,240
Currently there is a piece of federal legislation that has gone through the House of

1701
02:21:59,240 --> 02:21:59,740
Committee,

1702
02:22:02,340 --> 02:22:05,840
the one that works at this is owned, that's right, I don't know the exact one.

1703
02:22:06,060 --> 02:22:11,560
It's called the Logic and it's going to end up essentially making for a little bit more

1704
02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:18,580
flexibility for the Park Service to be able to enter agreements with other partners to do housing.

1705
02:22:19,420 --> 02:22:26,100
So we're interested in having those policy tools in place that hopefully will help us build

1706
02:22:26,100 --> 02:22:30,360
up the financing and relationships to come from the project on the ground.

1707
02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:32,120
So let me just follow up for a quick.

1708
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:37,840
So that's great news that the discussion is happening and maybe progress is being made

1709
02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:43,280
But as politically as you can state it, how are you in the county feeling about the

1710
02:22:43,280 --> 02:22:49,080
collaboration in terms of whether it would be ultimately impactful in a positive way

1711
02:22:49,080 --> 02:22:49,620
in the future?

1712
02:22:51,640 --> 02:22:53,560
I'm feeling good about it right now.

1713
02:22:53,960 --> 02:22:54,820
I'm really in.

1714
02:22:56,100 --> 02:22:58,480
I work with the Park Service for a long time.

1715
02:22:58,720 --> 02:23:03,580
I know the organization and we all have our issues in life.

1716
02:23:03,580 --> 02:23:09,120
But I feel like, well, housing and is a priority for them at this time.

1717
02:23:10,900 --> 02:23:16,380
And how that's manifest is to be determined.

1718
02:23:17,460 --> 02:23:23,660
But I can tell you that there's another housing partnership that's being started right now as well

1719
02:23:23,660 --> 02:23:26,700
to look at solutions and that they have been at the table.

1720
02:23:26,700 --> 02:23:29,040
So, people, she didn't know.

1721
02:23:32,910 --> 02:23:33,290
No.

1722
02:23:33,290 --> 02:23:34,550
Not your soul, you're hiding.

1723
02:23:34,910 --> 02:23:36,130
Not sure, and there's no.

1724
02:23:37,030 --> 02:23:40,490
But you've got to best start increasing the net.

1725
02:23:41,370 --> 02:23:45,630
And then the 200,000,000 lofts, the curtain.

1726
02:23:46,430 --> 02:23:46,930
No doubt.

1727
02:23:47,630 --> 02:23:48,230
No doubt.

1728
02:23:50,580 --> 02:23:51,540
Just for clarification.

1729
02:23:51,740 --> 02:23:54,320
200 lots here in the.

1730
02:23:55,160 --> 02:23:55,800
No, no.

1731
02:24:03,640 --> 02:24:04,820
These are unponsor.

1732
02:24:04,840 --> 02:24:05,280
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1733
02:24:05,500 --> 02:24:05,540
I'm sorry.

1734
02:24:05,540 --> 02:24:05,620
I'm sorry.

1735
02:24:35,620 --> 02:24:41,200
So, I'm going to share a current in your successful character in two million.

1736
02:24:43,060 --> 02:24:45,740
And are we different, quite a different person?

1737
02:24:51,770 --> 02:24:54,170
I'll work backwards to this.

1738
02:24:54,790 --> 02:24:56,430
Everyone is a little bit different.

1739
02:24:57,890 --> 02:25:02,510
Everybody has their own painting area, some of their own sub-culture.

1740
02:25:03,530 --> 02:25:06,310
So everybody, all these different communities are slightly different.

1741
02:25:06,310 --> 02:25:08,950
I think we want us very different than you said in the West.

1742
02:25:09,370 --> 02:25:10,270
We're very different than first.

1743
02:25:10,890 --> 02:25:13,350
Yet, all our bedroom communities, too.

1744
02:25:14,370 --> 02:25:16,930
But I'll have their own unique history.

1745
02:25:18,130 --> 02:25:20,550
I have been on site in all these communities

1746
02:25:21,170 --> 02:25:24,490
as a person that's lived here in my whole life,

1747
02:25:24,730 --> 02:25:28,450
but in 40 years, and had friends have been integrated.

1748
02:25:29,530 --> 02:25:30,950
And through those years, I've watched

1749
02:25:30,950 --> 02:25:33,090
those communities grow in change.

1750
02:25:33,090 --> 02:25:41,470
And so I can say honestly yes I have it here they're all different and I would like to make sure that each

1751
02:25:41,470 --> 02:25:45,250
the ADD is represented in our study and our problems.

1752
02:25:45,730 --> 02:25:51,550
So essentially specializing in housing if you have any thoughts about fresh metrics.

1753
02:25:52,410 --> 02:25:54,070
Please, please, please, please, please.

1754
02:25:54,070 --> 02:25:54,930
is it happening?

1755
02:25:55,570 --> 02:25:56,990
Yeah, this is maybe more good.

1756
02:25:57,030 --> 02:25:58,190
Should I tell you turning it?

1757
02:25:58,470 --> 02:26:00,850
Actually, this is probably more first of the minute.

1758
02:26:03,150 --> 02:26:06,550
It's a county haven't been able to come to prioritize it.

1759
02:26:06,830 --> 02:26:10,830
Businesses like this, the RIS, the RIS, the RIS, the RIS, the RIS, the RIS, the RIS,

1760
02:26:10,830 --> 02:26:12,530
and the RIS, some people have been driving the RIS.

1761
02:26:12,950 --> 02:26:15,890
Let's make them all as TRs because we've got a lot more on that.

1762
02:26:16,590 --> 02:26:21,390
How do you first of all, it's a thing, is there need a mandate that they believe?

1763
02:26:21,390 --> 02:26:25,590
because it just, the supervisor is on the stage once, once, once, once.

1764
02:26:27,450 --> 02:26:28,750
Yeah, I can do that.

1765
02:26:28,890 --> 02:26:29,450
I don't know if you can.

1766
02:26:29,870 --> 02:26:31,430
It's just, it's just, it's kind of fascinating.

1767
02:26:32,630 --> 02:26:33,170
Yeah.

1768
02:26:33,350 --> 02:26:34,330
I mean, that's right.

1769
02:26:34,750 --> 02:26:36,430
We don't have a mandate.

1770
02:26:36,670 --> 02:26:41,130
We don't have any internal policy or any external policy for that matter.

1771
02:26:43,530 --> 02:26:47,170
We've talked, this is my 93 on the Board of Supervisors.

1772
02:26:47,170 --> 02:26:55,050
And in the time that I've been there, we need to have watch the growing number of STRs.

1773
02:26:55,070 --> 02:27:00,030
And the question has always been, what are the implications for the larger community?

1774
02:27:00,410 --> 02:27:04,630
Some of it, each of us, here is very personally, right?

1775
02:27:05,650 --> 02:27:11,670
So, you call me, if you say the folks next door, we can wait too much, you know, I suggest that we can answer this.

1776
02:27:11,670 --> 02:27:15,130
And I think you did that, but people do.

1777
02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:20,490
And we hear from folks, I'll be very honest,

1778
02:27:21,190 --> 02:27:22,030
in the community.

1779
02:27:22,910 --> 02:27:27,190
I have several close friends who are on vacation rentals.

1780
02:27:27,930 --> 02:27:34,710
Who are not what I'm called, substantial wealthy folks.

1781
02:27:35,650 --> 02:27:39,230
And so what they'll tell me is, this is my retirement.

1782
02:27:39,410 --> 02:27:40,890
I have no 401k.

1783
02:27:40,890 --> 02:27:53,070
I have maybe a pension, but I do, it's not a hefty one, so this is how I, this is what I need to do in order to live out the rest of my life.

1784
02:27:53,810 --> 02:28:00,550
And then at the other end, you've got significant poverty management from, so I'd like to read what it's interested in some pointers.

1785
02:28:00,550 --> 02:28:12,010
So, long story short, the study itself is to help us as a community, as a larger community,

1786
02:28:12,190 --> 02:28:18,770
as individual communities, and more particularly, the Board of Supervisors come to some

1787
02:28:18,770 --> 02:28:26,730
sort of conclusion about what policy or policy makes sense to guide us on going forward

1788
02:28:27,870 --> 02:28:33,930
So we're not there, but hopefully with this study and further conversation, we can get to it.

1789
02:28:35,050 --> 02:28:38,950
I noticed this year's was only, actually, that's the same.

1790
02:28:39,650 --> 02:28:43,070
It's only been two of the group that stayed up on the building.

1791
02:28:43,810 --> 02:28:45,210
Both of them had them.

1792
02:28:45,310 --> 02:28:49,990
But in this year, we had several sites on the other side there.

1793
02:28:50,210 --> 02:28:51,470
And all of a sudden, they got it covered.

1794
02:28:51,470 --> 02:28:54,710
And the voters, they currently didn't in the place.

1795
02:28:55,030 --> 02:28:55,550
I don't think they did.

1796
02:28:55,710 --> 02:28:57,530
The county did, I suspect, the county did.

1797
02:28:57,910 --> 02:28:58,210
They did.

1798
02:28:58,210 --> 02:28:58,970
They right off the count.

1799
02:28:59,610 --> 02:29:03,530
And then on the free, free spreading side,

1800
02:29:04,110 --> 02:29:05,090
they're up to the North.

1801
02:29:05,650 --> 02:29:07,750
All of a sudden, the county and the team,

1802
02:29:07,910 --> 02:29:08,750
low side, the same.

1803
02:29:08,810 --> 02:29:10,610
That was just to be on their driveway.

1804
02:29:11,330 --> 02:29:13,210
And I think, okay, you know.

1805
02:29:14,930 --> 02:29:15,590
It helps us.

1806
02:29:15,590 --> 02:29:16,970
The rest of us is on the same.

1807
02:29:17,330 --> 02:29:20,250
But you have to become an STR in order to get those benefits.

1808
02:29:20,250 --> 02:29:22,650
So, right, there's a program that's there.

1809
02:29:23,350 --> 02:29:24,270
No, no.

1810
02:29:25,790 --> 02:29:29,510
So, let me just give you a 30-second interview here.

1811
02:29:29,930 --> 02:29:31,970
So, sometimes I don't know exactly when,

1812
02:29:32,210 --> 02:29:34,790
but I want to say it was in the sixties or seventies.

1813
02:29:35,350 --> 02:29:40,670
The county put together a list that's called the post-bile book,

1814
02:29:41,150 --> 02:29:45,950
and there are five hundred and sixty miles of county main tape

1815
02:29:46,790 --> 02:29:55,470
and if you look at the post-mile book, which is, it looks as old as it is, it identifies

1816
02:29:55,470 --> 02:29:59,970
is the specific distance on each road forward.

1817
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:15,640
So the county is responsible. And some of them are, they don't make much sense. Like I have a constituent over and impines, there's a road called crystal air or bribe. And it's 0.31,

1818
02:30:18,720 --> 02:30:24,540
whatever that is, however you say that, that portion of the file for which the county is responsible.

1819
02:30:24,540 --> 02:30:32,480
So, whether you're an individual property owner who is in a vise of property or a short

1820
02:30:32,480 --> 02:30:41,100
term rental concept and vise of property on that 0.31, I guess, tens of a mile, or it

1821
02:30:41,100 --> 02:30:41,700
doesn't matter.

1822
02:30:42,080 --> 02:30:46,520
We are responsible for that portion of the road and we are not responsible for anything

1823
02:30:46,520 --> 02:30:47,220
beyond it.

1824
02:30:47,220 --> 02:30:49,040
We've got a specific feeling to the public,

1825
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:54,590
since I went there to find a couple

1826
02:30:54,590 --> 02:30:57,590
of questions you mentioned in your slides, and I'll see you later.

1827
02:30:58,130 --> 02:31:02,950
There's ways of eliminating it, but it's going to be some of the current needs to take

1828
02:31:02,950 --> 02:31:08,870
a call, and then they have a based on an area that are per second, so if you tell us

1829
02:31:08,870 --> 02:31:10,670
how that works, do you have it?

1830
02:31:11,230 --> 02:31:11,830
I don't know.

1831
02:31:12,670 --> 02:31:12,830
I don't know.

1832
02:31:13,090 --> 02:31:15,490
I don't know.

1833
02:31:15,490 --> 02:31:19,170
to be, I think, a third of the public in the, you know,

1834
02:31:19,330 --> 02:31:20,110
you know, a meeting call.

1835
02:31:20,270 --> 02:31:22,010
It's a help of the perceived, uh.

1836
02:31:23,470 --> 02:31:25,270
Yeah, so great question.

1837
02:31:26,850 --> 02:31:30,510
Um, so many communities have set the limit.

1838
02:31:31,150 --> 02:31:34,650
The county wide, city wide, jurisdiction wide.

1839
02:31:35,070 --> 02:31:36,310
Um, a number of children.

1840
02:31:36,770 --> 02:31:39,210
It's that can, that can be whatever.

1841
02:31:39,590 --> 02:31:43,010
You can set it as a percentage, or as a certain number.

1842
02:31:43,010 --> 02:31:46,830
to be more specific in that number.

1843
02:31:47,850 --> 02:31:51,950
A lot of communities have looked at specific planning areas,

1844
02:31:52,290 --> 02:31:55,590
the geographical boundaries of a specific planning area,

1845
02:31:56,370 --> 02:32:00,030
that has a set of governing codes behind it,

1846
02:32:00,170 --> 02:32:04,550
then that certain number could be written into those different areas.

1847
02:32:05,330 --> 02:32:10,870
For example, I've been talking to the Inno County Assistant CAO,

1848
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:20,190
And they have an assessment area throughout their county based on actually on cannabis production and they've like kind of all that.

1849
02:32:20,930 --> 02:32:25,870
And so they're using that as the different areas that can have a certain amount of digital alternatives.

1850
02:32:26,630 --> 02:32:29,790
So something like that was going to happen in Maraposa.

1851
02:32:30,150 --> 02:32:39,370
We would look at the Wild Wona Planning Area and probably some U.S. Planning Area and look at the specific sublands.

1852
02:32:39,370 --> 02:32:45,290
don't think we could look at Cune Haller, I don't think if we could get that granular, it needs to be a

1853
02:32:45,290 --> 02:32:54,730
governing plan that's extremely, so when your file report comes out, are you going to make recommendations for certain areas like that?

1854
02:32:54,850 --> 02:32:58,010
Or is it up to that area to call you some of those things?

1855
02:32:58,510 --> 02:32:59,810
We really need you guys.

1856
02:33:00,650 --> 02:33:06,210
We are going to have a suite of recommendations that probably won't be quite that granular.

1857
02:33:06,210 --> 02:33:14,330
We most likely will break out these communities that are close to the society, they are a little bit different.

1858
02:33:15,010 --> 02:33:25,550
But we'll come up with a whole set of recommendations that then the Board of Supervisors can direct staff to pursue.

1859
02:33:26,010 --> 02:33:35,530
So we're not writing specific ordinance language into the study, but we are having basically the background for the Board of New England

1860
02:33:35,530 --> 02:33:40,050
in the envelope and we'll move based on there.

1861
02:33:42,900 --> 02:33:45,280
Yeah, back in the very back, I think.

1862
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:46,600
Hi, guys.

1863
02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:50,460
I want to thank you for all the time, guys.

1864
02:33:51,260 --> 02:33:52,940
This is some hydraulic kit.

1865
02:33:53,740 --> 02:33:55,800
And I'm sure I'm a bit biased for you.

1866
02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:57,660
I'm just too big for you.

1867
02:34:00,640 --> 02:34:02,200
Thank you very much.

1868
02:34:02,480 --> 02:34:02,540
Thank you very much.

1869
02:34:02,540 --> 02:34:04,160
I'm sure I look good when I sit on it.

1870
02:34:05,060 --> 02:34:07,360
It's 20-20, 30-20 blocks.

1871
02:34:08,500 --> 02:34:09,520
There are a couple of them.

1872
02:34:10,820 --> 02:34:11,620
And today we're going to take a quick

1873
02:34:11,620 --> 02:34:12,620
thing forward.

1874
02:34:12,780 --> 02:34:14,220
Foundation for our launch.

1875
02:34:15,180 --> 02:34:16,160
So it's going to be forward.

1876
02:34:17,240 --> 02:34:19,280
So we're in a possible sort of, we need to make

1877
02:34:19,280 --> 02:34:23,860
an decision about crossing over two, which is we

1878
02:34:23,860 --> 02:34:25,660
were in 10 to the middle of the short from that one

1879
02:34:25,660 --> 02:34:26,600
that what?

1880
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:30,440
And we don't know what to do because we don't know what

1881
02:34:30,440 --> 02:34:31,180
can happen.

1882
02:34:31,780 --> 02:34:34,140
So key calls when we can make this

1883
02:34:35,240 --> 02:34:40,000
That's because I've got a lot of designers, I've got architects, I've got construction,

1884
02:34:40,280 --> 02:34:43,860
I've got people standing by and it was that's for a lot, and it was projects.

1885
02:34:44,300 --> 02:34:48,100
So I don't know what to decide and decide what I like to do.

1886
02:34:48,420 --> 02:34:48,940
What we're doing.

1887
02:34:50,220 --> 02:34:56,140
You're welcome Charlotte, and you're not the only one that's in this situation right now,

1888
02:34:56,520 --> 02:35:02,060
and this was one of the considerations that we took last fall in the Moratorium

1889
02:35:02,060 --> 02:35:09,560
was proposed is that a lot of people had significant financial outlay, they're in the middle

1890
02:35:09,560 --> 02:35:15,860
of the bill, they were held as time and effort invested and, you know, they would be

1891
02:35:15,860 --> 02:35:16,080
awful.

1892
02:35:16,240 --> 02:35:19,060
Right now there's a bunch of people who are saying, what do you get to do?

1893
02:35:19,800 --> 02:35:26,880
You know, this time, so I don't have a crystal ball exactly on what the board will do

1894
02:35:26,880 --> 02:35:36,140
But what has historically merit-positive counting Board of Supervisors, I can say, has been very

1895
02:35:36,140 --> 02:35:42,960
linear and amenable to people who are in a certain process, I would say that their sentiment

1896
02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:48,420
is not to hurt anybody through a big policy choice.

1897
02:35:49,200 --> 02:35:56,840
And so I would expect that there would be some type of consideration for people who are

1898
02:35:56,840 --> 02:36:02,620
involved in a build process like you're speaking at right now or in a development process.

1899
02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:12,560
How that consideration is reflected in the WDT-2D training, I don't know if you'd like

1900
02:36:12,560 --> 02:36:13,620
to do that.

1901
02:36:14,360 --> 02:36:15,780
Is there a time scale?

1902
02:36:17,360 --> 02:36:17,640
What a decision.

1903
02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:21,920
There's a rough one, but here's what will happen.

1904
02:36:21,920 --> 02:36:29,820
the study will end up coming out this fall but then notice it then the Board of Supervisors

1905
02:36:29,820 --> 02:36:39,960
would direct staff to begin work in a certain ordinance. So that would take minimum 90 days.

1906
02:36:41,340 --> 02:36:46,960
So the very quickest decision that would happen, you know, something might be added first

1907
02:36:53,900 --> 02:37:01,280
When you mentioned that you were going to press each community, so how many short-term

1908
02:37:01,280 --> 02:37:02,960
runals are there at the moment?

1909
02:37:08,140 --> 02:37:13,040
I actually would have to go and pull my data off our GIS layer right now, and I don't

1910
02:37:13,040 --> 02:37:14,580
have my fingertips inside.

1911
02:37:16,340 --> 02:37:22,780
I would imagine the same answer for long-term runals, so you really don't know how many

1912
02:37:22,780 --> 02:37:27,600
partial with this, whatever, whatever, whatever the value of the site.

1913
02:37:29,040 --> 02:37:35,020
Well, we can find out how many, so short-term rentals,

1914
02:37:35,340 --> 02:37:39,220
TOT, transient occupancy, certificates, we easily track.

1915
02:37:39,420 --> 02:37:40,940
We've got a great grip on that.

1916
02:37:41,080 --> 02:37:44,520
We can draw a circle around them, know exactly where they are,

1917
02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:47,180
how many they are, what's that as they're in.

1918
02:37:47,660 --> 02:37:50,940
Long-term rentals, very hard to quantify.

1919
02:37:50,940 --> 02:37:56,410
That's a private business operation so we don't necessarily know how many long-term rentals are out there

1920
02:37:57,320 --> 02:38:00,180
parcels, first of all, count those as well.

1921
02:38:02,200 --> 02:38:02,300
So

1922
02:38:02,300 --> 02:38:07,980
So you did get some respondents to your survey that said we are long-term rentals. So yeah

1923
02:38:11,220 --> 02:38:17,190
But so you would also know people find out how many T of T's there, it would probably be easier than

1924
02:38:17,950 --> 02:38:21,990
So we would want that to the next meeting, doing the seat.

1925
02:38:22,430 --> 02:38:23,510
How many people is the fact?

1926
02:38:23,630 --> 02:38:31,270
Yeah, I think it's just, I mean what Ben is saying is there are maps, there are Excel

1927
02:38:31,270 --> 02:38:40,210
spreadsheets, our tax collector obviously has to know exactly which parcel is an STR, who

1928
02:38:40,210 --> 02:38:45,770
owns it, who operates it if it isn't the owner, how you get in touch with the owner, all

1929
02:38:45,770 --> 02:38:52,770
that information is available on the county and they pulled along that together for the study

1930
02:38:52,770 --> 02:38:55,950
it's just, he doesn't have to have a, okay.

1931
02:38:56,550 --> 02:38:59,010
The next time you dress warm, do you have that?

1932
02:38:59,930 --> 02:39:04,230
The things that you're looking for is how many actually short-term rentals are well.

1933
02:39:04,530 --> 02:39:06,790
Yeah. I'll tell you right after this, I'll get on my computer.

1934
02:39:07,050 --> 02:39:07,750
Oh, okay.

1935
02:39:07,750 --> 02:39:09,770
Because I think that kind of gives me an idea.

1936
02:39:10,370 --> 02:39:13,190
How many people we talk about will be affected

1937
02:39:13,690 --> 02:39:16,450
by whatever decision is made in the room?

1938
02:39:16,850 --> 02:39:18,870
And by a minimum number.

1939
02:39:18,950 --> 02:39:22,310
By affected, you'd be thinking about individuals

1940
02:39:22,310 --> 02:39:25,530
perhaps that are operators, trucker manuals.

1941
02:39:25,690 --> 02:39:29,270
So it depends what your policy will be,

1942
02:39:29,530 --> 02:39:31,390
which I have no idea what it is.

1943
02:39:32,430 --> 02:39:37,550
If you have the county, it has an ordinance that affects

1944
02:39:38,450 --> 02:39:45,370
certain members of that and how many is that? Or is it an effect? All people will have a TOT.

1945
02:39:46,690 --> 02:39:50,930
You know, and I'm not saying going one way or another, I'm just trying to get an analine.

1946
02:39:51,110 --> 02:39:58,190
How many people this is? There's a TOT ordinance effect in the community.

1947
02:39:58,810 --> 02:40:04,210
I'm probably each community would want that because a warner would be different than the assembly West and Midnight.

1948
02:40:04,210 --> 02:40:10,630
And so if it may look and you already said, you think you need to address each community.

1949
02:40:12,110 --> 02:40:22,510
So you may have an ordinance that would basically lead it up to each town plan on how that could be addressed.

1950
02:40:25,080 --> 02:40:26,280
Yes, very like yeah exactly.

1951
02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:31,220
They will be there will be individual destinations based on community.

1952
02:40:31,220 --> 02:40:38,980
And just so you know, I pulled on my slide here of the 44 people that responded from

1953
02:40:38,980 --> 02:40:49,100
Alona, 67% of those are owners, and 97 owners responded, 47 or not.

1954
02:40:49,780 --> 02:40:55,540
And then we can look at that more detail to see exactly how many T and T certificates of

1955
02:40:57,160 --> 02:41:05,940
I would kind of recommend the board when they do hope that how to do this, that it may be done by

1956
02:41:05,940 --> 02:41:15,840
by community-by specific plan that would be a great place to address issues in there on housing

1957
02:41:15,840 --> 02:41:20,860
and setbacks and all that kind of stuff, which is already in every specific plan.

1958
02:41:20,860 --> 02:41:25,760
And that might be where this will be usually done and be done by community.

1959
02:41:27,400 --> 02:41:33,760
I think that certainly will be the case particularly in these communities that are adjacent to the park.

1960
02:41:35,000 --> 02:41:35,580
Thank you.

1961
02:41:36,080 --> 02:41:36,380
Back there.

1962
02:41:36,920 --> 02:41:40,040
I was just going to ask you to talk to them about what needs to be.

1963
02:41:41,940 --> 02:41:46,040
Basically, this is numbers on groups between TOTs.

1964
02:41:46,820 --> 02:41:50,320
This is American, and all of those students who go to these

1965
02:41:50,320 --> 02:41:53,220
on their rentals, and all they do.

1966
02:41:53,640 --> 02:41:59,140
So all rental platforms now are required to collect that.

1967
02:42:01,220 --> 02:42:02,520
I think you turned that microphone.

1968
02:42:02,980 --> 02:42:04,140
I can't quite talk.

1969
02:42:10,860 --> 02:42:21,500
We have a relationship with the Airbnb and they do pay us directly for their revenues.

1970
02:42:22,040 --> 02:42:29,260
We have a software tool that monitors compliance of short-term rentals so we can see

1971
02:42:29,260 --> 02:42:31,940
people are ready without any of this well.

1972
02:42:32,520 --> 02:42:35,620
Yeah, because there's a lot of private party stuff that goes on.

1973
02:42:37,640 --> 02:42:38,120
Okay.

1974
02:42:46,640 --> 02:42:47,680
There's your study.

1975
02:42:48,300 --> 02:42:50,060
Is it going to address, like, your individual,

1976
02:42:50,380 --> 02:42:52,880
to the deal that it could be, example, maybe I'll mention it.

1977
02:42:53,240 --> 02:42:55,240
Like, a lot of years to me, the last 10 people.

1978
02:42:55,480 --> 02:42:57,720
And there were four people, so they could hide it.

1979
02:42:57,900 --> 02:42:59,560
You know, let me know.

1980
02:42:59,560 --> 02:43:06,280
So are you the best thing I've had and if you're not, let's say we're trying to

1981
02:43:06,280 --> 02:43:09,940
decide to change that world, would it be retroactive over the current

1982
02:43:09,940 --> 02:43:11,520
certificate still be well?

1983
02:43:14,570 --> 02:43:20,870
If there are properties that are grandfathered in, so we currently do have room limits,

1984
02:43:21,190 --> 02:43:29,450
occupancy limits, but all the properties do not have to comply to that, because they have

1985
02:43:29,450 --> 02:43:32,650
that you're sorry enough to be close to what this is supposed to be.

1986
02:43:32,650 --> 02:43:36,550
And you're not interested in this kind of policy is very potential.

1987
02:43:36,790 --> 02:43:41,190
It will be noted just so we have a baseline understanding, you know,

1988
02:43:41,430 --> 02:43:45,730
where your certain properties may need to have 10 people in it.

1989
02:43:46,650 --> 02:43:50,610
It'll be a good explanation for the community because they move forward and say,

1990
02:43:50,810 --> 02:43:52,890
well hey, why do they get to do this?

1991
02:43:53,010 --> 02:43:54,090
And I can only have three bedrooms.

1992
02:43:55,150 --> 02:43:57,230
So it's all, it's only there.

1993
02:43:57,230 --> 02:43:58,230
Mr. Carrots.

1994
02:43:59,070 --> 02:43:59,190
Yeah.

1995
02:44:03,190 --> 02:44:03,710
Yeah.

1996
02:44:03,710 --> 02:44:10,770
around, if the last meeting was on 54,000 pounds, and then, that's all right.

1997
02:44:10,970 --> 02:44:13,190
I think that might be the one I'm trying to tell you now,

1998
02:44:15,210 --> 02:44:16,770
but also, but there's one

1999
02:44:16,770 --> 02:44:21,450
about part 2 of this in housing, and part 2, and I'm trying to tell you that both of this

2000
02:44:21,450 --> 02:44:25,890
are being looked up, even if it's at the same cost, even if they are short of housing

2001
02:44:25,890 --> 02:44:27,730
and they're having a different cost.

2002
02:44:27,730 --> 02:44:34,550
hiring people because they don't have, they don't have a bit of a thousand.

2003
02:44:36,070 --> 02:44:38,950
My history in London, we thought that people are here,

2004
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:43,750
my life goes back to New York, and the grandkids, and many of them.

2005
02:44:43,850 --> 02:44:46,930
I think they know that they do the daily politics to the moment.

2006
02:44:47,950 --> 02:44:51,610
So they have a bit perspective on what you're going to know about the years.

2007
02:44:52,770 --> 02:44:55,310
Over the years, a bunch of this collaboration,

2008
02:44:55,310 --> 02:44:59,870
and I'm sorry, but I was British, but I'm not a part of it in the world.

2009
02:45:00,270 --> 02:45:08,150
The Senate Council has done the call in the district courthouse at Scotland. They've earned早's status.

2010
02:45:08,830 --> 02:45:15,730
May is good to use the areas of the party. That's早's and then, in case the cost of the meeting is going up.

2011
02:45:16,310 --> 02:45:21,870
Then they've done it. They've also given seven, eight ounces of oil, two-savvy, seven-savvy, seven-savvy.

2012
02:45:21,870 --> 02:45:27,730
of the positive and concluded current housing in the field of office studies,

2013
02:45:29,930 --> 02:45:30,350
don't get

2014
02:45:30,350 --> 02:45:36,170
you all in high enough national parts of this retiree, seven to the last 17 years and then

2015
02:45:36,170 --> 02:45:36,810
the SNAP.

2016
02:45:37,370 --> 02:45:44,030
Good job for yourselves, and so for the part-to-go, we're sure the housing is not really

2017
02:45:44,030 --> 02:45:46,150
I don't have a line.

2018
02:45:47,410 --> 02:45:49,710
So, I don't have a line.

2019
02:45:49,710 --> 02:45:49,930
I don't have a line.

2020
02:45:50,510 --> 02:45:52,510
I don't have a line.

2021
02:45:52,690 --> 02:45:53,290
I don't have a line.

2022
02:45:53,290 --> 02:45:54,070
I don't have a line.

2023
02:45:55,370 --> 02:46:00,930
I'm also not an individual.

2024
02:46:03,530 --> 02:46:06,910
But, for instance, this organization, this community,

2025
02:46:07,050 --> 02:46:08,650
that got the name in the world.

2026
02:46:10,110 --> 02:46:12,630
The number of short-term models in the world,

2027
02:46:12,630 --> 02:46:16,650
in the newspaper for eight years,

2028
02:46:20,560 --> 02:46:26,600
the question is, how can we better manage the short-term

2029
02:46:26,600 --> 02:46:30,940
owners that are here, so unless it's the impacts that have been brought up in the

2030
02:46:30,940 --> 02:46:31,700
short-term?

2031
02:46:34,720 --> 02:46:42,580
I don't have a question before that, actually, to the, you know, the park's sort of a test

2032
02:46:42,580 --> 02:46:50,180
supposed to have been in the open the room as far as the group had any need to apply now.

2033
02:46:50,640 --> 02:46:55,740
This can be the only employees in the park service, they're the immediate public and

2034
02:46:55,740 --> 02:46:56,120
questionable.

2035
02:46:56,140 --> 02:47:02,760
It's trained that says, man, this is also that need for a 40-based housing, really

2036
02:47:02,760 --> 02:47:07,280
was prompted a lot of this in the, you know, a need, it's said.

2037
02:47:07,280 --> 02:47:13,580
You may need an interesting comment at the end of your loop for the end of your report that you're

2038
02:47:13,580 --> 02:47:19,700
nearing for it by the way the response you're getting to meet from the park service on this.

2039
02:47:20,000 --> 02:47:23,480
I mean, I know they've looked at a lot of different things like finding a job for it to come

2040
02:47:23,480 --> 02:47:27,980
in a park with them and be back and things like that.

2041
02:47:28,720 --> 02:47:33,640
I've kind of weighed on the periphery because back in my real life that was what I used to do.

2042
02:47:33,640 --> 02:47:41,740
But I don't, I'm kind of curious, what is it where you see from then that gives you

2043
02:47:41,740 --> 02:47:46,160
calls for encouragement, that they are willing to participate in a real way, convince

2044
02:47:46,160 --> 02:47:49,040
them to how they are contributing to the community.

2045
02:47:50,800 --> 02:47:52,720
And I'll thank you for that question.

2046
02:47:54,460 --> 02:47:59,020
And so when you get encouraged by something, it's when somebody, something gets a little bit

2047
02:47:59,020 --> 02:47:59,940
better, right?

2048
02:48:00,040 --> 02:48:01,240
Or, you know, something is improving.

2049
02:48:01,240 --> 02:48:10,420
And I would say that the county's relationship primarily with the Superintendents office is what is

2050
02:48:10,420 --> 02:48:15,960
what occurred to you in me right now towards a potential housing project in the future.

2051
02:48:16,440 --> 02:48:23,320
Okay, so the current Superintendents is looking family at the parks of participating in one

2052
02:48:23,320 --> 02:48:26,260
one other than housing project in the housing project.

2053
02:48:26,260 --> 02:48:32,980
Well, and I would say as to the former Supreme Court, some might very much be very active in the conversations.

2054
02:48:33,300 --> 02:48:43,460
Well, it's just it knows that, you know, help yourself look at the perspective for this concessionaire, and they have probably been on the job.

2055
02:48:44,360 --> 02:48:48,580
And one of the things, the conditions of that, is that they would divide.

2056
02:48:53,460 --> 02:49:06,300
I don't know if it'd be any of your doorsteps that you're planning to be able to get something like that to, but, you know, that's, that I just wanted that kind of thing to still even go live, you know?

2057
02:49:06,300 --> 02:49:14,480
Well, let's just say, I think the integrated mobility housing study that then mentioned earlier,

2058
02:49:15,820 --> 02:49:24,060
the city conservancy and the city national park, or important partners, we all agree acknowledge

2059
02:49:24,060 --> 02:49:33,400
the need to coordinate and where we can bring resources to the table to try to address the housing

2060
02:49:33,400 --> 02:49:41,880
on several things, and not just the three of us, but also other organizations in our community.

2061
02:49:42,520 --> 02:49:43,740
Can we move on?

2062
02:49:45,260 --> 02:49:50,860
Mr. Chairman, this is an informational item as I understand it from the agenda.

2063
02:49:51,820 --> 02:49:54,240
It's been a very broad discussion.

2064
02:49:54,820 --> 02:50:01,580
I would like to suggest that, to this committee, that there are two absolutely existential,

2065
02:50:02,500 --> 02:50:08,520
personally, generational defining issues of the this committee may have to come to grips with.

2066
02:50:08,580 --> 02:50:15,360
One is this issue. The other is the M.O. New language, moving forward with the M.O.U.U.U.

2067
02:50:15,380 --> 02:50:23,780
and if at some point, this changes from an information, as you do, to an issue in which this committee is going to be asked

2068
02:50:23,780 --> 02:50:29,760
to review alternatives, consider alternatives, and make a recommendation to the Board of Supervisors

2069
02:50:29,760 --> 02:50:36,660
as you are thoughts on the short term rental issue that determined schedule a separate meeting for this issue

2070
02:50:36,660 --> 02:50:43,480
and that proper support of all sides is provided to the community for consideration.

2071
02:50:43,820 --> 02:50:48,080
I have a real concern about what I've heard today

2072
02:50:48,080 --> 02:50:57,340
and the impacts on private property ownership, property values going forward, and what impacts

2073
02:50:57,340 --> 02:51:05,080
restrictions could place on our properties, and I took this job to represent not my property,

2074
02:51:05,360 --> 02:51:09,900
but to every one of the 270 properties in the world.

2075
02:51:10,700 --> 02:51:15,320
And many of whom are not in the audience, they're not on this board, they're not a county staff,

2076
02:51:15,900 --> 02:51:16,720
they're out there.

2077
02:51:16,720 --> 02:51:20,920
but they still have a voice and they still need to be protected.

2078
02:51:22,000 --> 02:51:24,120
And so, this is such an important issue

2079
02:51:24,120 --> 02:51:28,060
that if we're ever going to be called upon to take action,

2080
02:51:28,460 --> 02:51:32,180
I would like to see a separate meeting on that issue.

2081
02:51:32,660 --> 02:51:35,140
And I believe we already have a separate meeting

2082
02:51:35,140 --> 02:51:39,340
on the MOU issue coming up in October.

2083
02:51:39,880 --> 02:51:41,160
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2084
02:51:41,160 --> 02:51:41,800
Okay.

2085
02:51:43,660 --> 02:51:43,780
Okay.

2086
02:51:43,780 --> 02:51:43,960
Okay.

2087
02:51:47,840 --> 02:51:48,960
Any other comments?

2088
02:51:49,200 --> 02:51:49,780
Because you're right, too.

2089
02:51:49,940 --> 02:51:54,500
You're just receiving a report here and the take in the consideration.

2090
02:51:55,020 --> 02:51:57,660
And I, I don't know if you need a more important reason.

2091
02:51:57,700 --> 02:52:02,360
I also think that you were pretty much in consensus that these things like

2092
02:52:02,360 --> 02:52:05,660
those separate meeting went back to the minutes together.

2093
02:52:05,840 --> 02:52:10,140
And before something is authorized by the Board of Supervisors.

2094
02:52:10,140 --> 02:52:18,380
Well, let me ask that just to follow up again, actions to restrict short-term Reynolds, not

2095
02:52:18,380 --> 02:52:22,720
not county-wide, but as part of our town plan for instance.

2096
02:52:23,140 --> 02:52:26,840
Again, this is a very broad discussion, but that was raised.

2097
02:52:27,820 --> 02:52:35,180
I would assume that's right in our daily way, but let me ask right now to county staff and

2098
02:52:35,180 --> 02:52:43,280
our supervisor at some point is the Board of Supervisors going to be asking let back for its

2099
02:52:43,280 --> 02:52:47,700
consideration and recommendations with respect to what we've heard today.

2100
02:52:51,670 --> 02:52:59,310
So, I cannot put myself in the bench head, but what he has said is when he described

2101
02:52:59,310 --> 02:53:03,690
is essentially similar to the first conversation that he had here.

2102
02:53:03,690 --> 02:53:05,830
That's what we'll come before the board.

2103
02:53:05,890 --> 02:53:13,750
They'll be report that will be the culmination of the board that's been conducted under the study.

2104
02:53:14,650 --> 02:53:25,870
And at that point, the board will consider the information that's been presented in the report information that's presented by people in the audience,

2105
02:53:25,870 --> 02:53:36,510
whether or not you are in person and we will direct staff to take action and include it in that direction.

2106
02:53:37,170 --> 02:53:48,310
Could be, I want to five, it could be that proposals be sent back to specific communities.

2107
02:53:48,310 --> 02:53:55,230
Now, I have to emphasize that not everybody has a advisory committee.

2108
02:53:55,890 --> 02:54:02,370
Volona has, as you know, the Volona Town Planning Association in your Simity West,

2109
02:54:03,410 --> 02:54:09,710
the only active committee that we have is the, you know, Simity West District Advisory Committee,

2110
02:54:09,830 --> 02:54:11,330
which is primarily focused.

2111
02:54:11,490 --> 02:54:17,270
Their charter is to look at the water waste water and road services provided by the county

2112
02:54:19,830 --> 02:54:29,570
So we're going to have to think through not only the options that are presented in the report

2113
02:54:29,570 --> 02:54:34,570
that is provided to the board, but we're also going to think of perhaps thinking through

2114
02:54:35,270 --> 02:54:47,250
how we go about finalizing any suggested or authorized approaches to bring this to

2115
02:54:48,170 --> 02:54:51,230
So, yes, it could be certainly possible that we could say

2116
02:54:51,230 --> 02:54:55,530
it's kind of back to the web pack, but for us it doesn't have

2117
02:54:55,530 --> 02:54:59,010
a town of Hong Kong, so we're going to have to figure all that out.

2118
02:54:59,590 --> 02:55:02,890
Just to the extent that the town plan, our town plan,

2119
02:55:03,270 --> 02:55:06,650
is being implicated in any sort of changes to it.

2120
02:55:06,670 --> 02:55:11,210
I just want everyone to understand that is a hugely impactful document

2121
02:55:11,210 --> 02:55:15,770
to all of our properties, and if you don't know about it

2122
02:55:15,770 --> 02:55:18,750
and you don't know how it could impact your property values.

2123
02:55:19,430 --> 02:55:21,430
You need to familiarize yourself with it.

2124
02:55:21,550 --> 02:55:23,410
And if there's any discussion about,

2125
02:55:23,410 --> 02:55:26,570
well, let's restrict this, and let's restrict that,

2126
02:55:26,890 --> 02:55:30,170
it would probably be done in the context of revising

2127
02:55:30,170 --> 02:55:31,890
or amending the town plan.

2128
02:55:32,550 --> 02:55:36,870
And that is a big-time issue that needs big-time consideration

2129
02:55:36,870 --> 02:55:39,210
for all a property owners in the world.

2130
02:55:39,490 --> 02:55:40,070
And you think,

2131
02:55:42,570 --> 02:55:45,050
this was the body to put work

2132
02:55:45,050 --> 02:55:47,230
that's accounted to put that town plan together.

2133
02:55:47,230 --> 02:55:57,230
And you're absolutely right, you know, anything that restricts activity, that right, that the property owner, the owners that they have,

2134
02:55:58,770 --> 02:56:04,290
he grays the kind of kind, and he tracks from the value of the property.

2135
02:56:04,590 --> 02:56:10,230
We see a perception both, multiple people here in the marketplace.

2136
02:56:10,890 --> 02:56:13,370
So that's a, that I was points for taking.

2137
02:56:13,370 --> 02:56:21,870
Okay, any other comments coming from the audience, any other from the committee?

2138
02:56:22,870 --> 02:56:28,590
Then this is what we'll receive the report and thank you for it, and now I'm going to

2139
02:56:28,590 --> 02:56:37,690
one to the next item on the agenda, which is the one for discussion and the possible action.

2140
02:56:37,690 --> 02:56:43,370
The first item there is your view discussed and recommend that people

2141
02:56:43,370 --> 02:56:45,990
on the wall in the top 90th life of your communities.

2142
02:56:46,250 --> 02:56:49,510
Any report to a mayor of course, we could not afford some advice.

2143
02:56:50,950 --> 02:56:54,650
Can you give me a minute, please, for some reason I've bought some.

2144
02:56:59,350 --> 02:57:02,550
Big that was a document that...

2145
02:57:02,550 --> 02:57:04,310
Can you give me the, yeah, no, I don't know.

2146
02:57:04,830 --> 02:57:06,170
You have a hard copy.

2147
02:57:06,590 --> 02:57:06,770
Okay.

2148
02:57:06,770 --> 02:57:10,830
I don't know what I'm going to do, but I don't know what I'm going to do.

2149
02:57:11,870 --> 02:57:15,070
All right. Let's just, no, we'll go ahead.

2150
02:57:16,910 --> 02:57:17,350
I'm sorry.

2151
02:57:24,970 --> 02:57:29,330
Okay, so, as Gene said,

2152
02:57:31,410 --> 02:57:35,130
the item is to look at the annual report,

2153
02:57:38,270 --> 02:58:02,270
I'm sorry I was looking for the entire packet for today's meeting but in that packet there was a coffee of the policy that I mentioned earlier that the Board of Supervisors approved to provide guidance on how different

2154
02:58:03,830 --> 02:58:09,850
Canadians, boards, and commissions operate in Miracles County.

2155
02:58:10,510 --> 02:58:21,730
And one of the key requirements of that document that we discussed at the last meeting is an annual report.

2156
02:58:22,530 --> 02:58:32,250
And we, at that meeting, it was decided that Gene and Ed and Gary Bookner would work

2157
02:58:32,250 --> 02:58:38,870
together to help me pull an annual report together that can be submitted to the board.

2158
02:58:40,170 --> 02:58:51,910
So we, as part of that, we developed the purpose statement in the annual report. And I'm

2159
02:58:51,910 --> 02:58:58,110
looking for confirmation from the members of this committee that you're comfortable with

2160
02:58:58,110 --> 02:59:07,710
what we did not do and what is required under the policy is to talk about what we've done

2161
02:59:07,710 --> 02:59:10,050
and what our goals are for the next year.

2162
02:59:10,830 --> 02:59:13,070
So I threw some stuff out there.

2163
02:59:14,430 --> 02:59:17,790
Our accomplishments we added three new members to the committee.

2164
02:59:17,990 --> 02:59:19,790
So what else is the committee done?

2165
02:59:19,790 --> 02:59:23,290
In terms of goals and objectives for 2023,

2166
02:59:25,910 --> 02:59:29,870
I put in at least one new member to reduce the number of vacancies,

2167
02:59:30,090 --> 02:59:35,670
finalized language for the MOU between the park and the county, and then define service levels for trash,

2168
02:59:35,850 --> 02:59:40,010
recycling, pine needle, and bulky items, pick up and we'll want an associated cost.

2169
02:59:40,510 --> 02:59:45,150
This was me throwing stuff on a piece of paper, or actually, on my laptop.

2170
02:59:45,150 --> 02:59:58,070
But I need to know from you folks whether those are the, that is the only accomplishment that you want to identify for this committee over the year 2022.

2171
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:09,500
I want to know whether the goals and objectives that are there are the ones that you want identified, or if you want something taken out or something added.

2172
03:00:10,180 --> 03:00:23,780
So I need input and I need concurrence that you're comfortable with actually Danielle will do the work, but with us taking this annual report to the Board of Supervisors.

2173
03:00:26,890 --> 03:00:30,610
I have one question in the packet.

2174
03:00:31,730 --> 03:00:36,570
It's the one in there and it's got blue, black, yellow.

2175
03:00:38,530 --> 03:00:44,770
So the blue is just the thing that the three of four of us worked on.

2176
03:00:46,050 --> 03:00:47,050
There's no significance.

2177
03:00:47,850 --> 03:00:52,990
You, I think what you said to me, had this two paragraphs highlighted.

2178
03:00:52,990 --> 03:00:55,690
And I didn't bother to remove the high line.

2179
03:00:55,970 --> 03:01:00,550
So there's no real information associated with those differences in task.

2180
03:01:00,610 --> 03:01:08,650
So this is the copy of the proposed report for us to improve the change.

2181
03:01:09,550 --> 03:01:10,250
Yes, yes, exactly.

2182
03:01:17,860 --> 03:01:21,580
And that's the one I was going to go on with.

2183
03:01:25,080 --> 03:01:37,360
So we have to look at this a little bit inside the weather, we need to be addition to this, subtraction, and then prove it.

2184
03:01:40,940 --> 03:01:44,240
Yeah, because this has to go to the board.

2185
03:01:45,460 --> 03:01:51,720
For clarification, Mr. Chairman, as a newbie, a spell road newbie,

2186
03:01:53,280 --> 03:01:58,260
As I understood the resolution, this is to be provided to the board and the layer of the

2187
03:01:58,260 --> 03:01:59,740
napaline issue, is that correct?

2188
03:02:00,220 --> 03:02:08,040
Okay, so we're already, you know, obviously, well, beyond the deadline, and I have no objection

2189
03:02:08,040 --> 03:02:08,800
to the language.

2190
03:02:08,800 --> 03:02:14,060
I wasn't even going to the board at the time frame involved, but I'd like to, at the

2191
03:02:14,060 --> 03:02:19,580
appropriate time, make some suggestions about that process going forward, so we'll find

2192
03:02:19,580 --> 03:02:26,240
themselves in this position and that we provide the board a really meaningful report.

2193
03:02:27,340 --> 03:02:34,560
In reading the resolutions and the history and in talking with folks in the know, it's

2194
03:02:34,560 --> 03:02:39,740
very clear to me that the county staff and the county board of supervisors is kind of

2195
03:02:39,740 --> 03:02:45,300
inundated with these boards and they're looking to find out which of their boards and committees

2196
03:02:46,100 --> 03:02:52,740
or actually providing value added in that actually provided service that's necessary.

2197
03:02:53,560 --> 03:03:00,000
And if they determine that committees aren't doing what the requirements lay out,

2198
03:03:00,700 --> 03:03:03,820
then my guess is they're going to get rid of those committees.

2199
03:03:04,640 --> 03:03:11,020
And so it behooves us as representatives of Wona to not let that happen to let that happen to let that happen.

2200
03:03:11,020 --> 03:03:18,920
And so, they've set out requirements for us, and we need to, even if it means having a special

2201
03:03:18,920 --> 03:03:26,880
meeting to talk about what our scope is and what we need to provide to the county to keep

2202
03:03:26,880 --> 03:03:31,440
this committee functioning, I think we should do that sooner rather than later.

2203
03:03:31,580 --> 03:03:35,160
You know, next April is not that far away, actually.

2204
03:03:35,160 --> 03:03:42,560
And so determining what this year, what we're attending to accomplish, what we've accomplished,

2205
03:03:42,840 --> 03:03:48,480
and putting a report together that can be timely provided to our supervisor and her board,

2206
03:03:48,620 --> 03:03:52,140
I think is very important to our ongoing responsibility.

2207
03:03:52,780 --> 03:03:54,260
I'll leave it at that time.

2208
03:03:56,140 --> 03:04:03,940
Just for a little more informational update, so on this last Tuesday, my staff brought an item to the Board of Supervisors on this very topic.

2209
03:04:03,940 --> 03:04:13,140
We are actually going to dissolve four committees that did not bring annual reports to the board and then the board also gave

2210
03:04:13,140 --> 03:04:25,240
action to allow my staff to go out one more time and give a third opportunity for committees to bring their annual report and that item will come before September 12.

2211
03:04:25,240 --> 03:04:29,540
So moving forward, that won't happen next year.

2212
03:04:29,820 --> 03:04:32,360
This is the first year that we've implemented this policy.

2213
03:04:34,560 --> 03:04:36,960
But we will probably see more committees

2214
03:04:36,960 --> 03:04:39,620
dissolved that are in non-compliance.

2215
03:04:39,980 --> 03:04:42,960
And Mr. Chairman, we cannot let that happen to let that

2216
03:04:42,960 --> 03:04:43,620
number one.

2217
03:04:44,120 --> 03:04:46,520
And number two, I believe that this committee ought

2218
03:04:46,520 --> 03:04:51,500
to have a specific deadline for coming up with its goals

2219
03:04:51,500 --> 03:04:59,380
for the year, and then preparing a draft of its report to the Board, which will assure

2220
03:04:59,380 --> 03:05:01,780
that we don't lose this committee.

2221
03:05:02,320 --> 03:05:04,300
I don't think they're messing around.

2222
03:05:07,040 --> 03:05:12,600
In fact, that's why when the nation is barred up under that promise meeting, I think we

2223
03:05:12,600 --> 03:05:17,900
gave ourselves two weeks to basically double-check it and see if there's anything we want

2224
03:05:17,900 --> 03:05:18,980
to add as far as the last.

2225
03:05:18,980 --> 03:05:23,620
And I think we got the document into you in a time-in-a-way.

2226
03:05:23,720 --> 03:05:28,500
Also, it's quite understanding that you are currently all of the supervisors themselves

2227
03:05:28,500 --> 03:05:36,760
out of charge basically with a schedule of when the plan has to be, you know, the report has to be in.

2228
03:05:36,960 --> 03:05:37,580
Is that not?

2229
03:05:37,840 --> 03:05:45,780
No, so, all of it, Danielle, you're, her memory is probably better than mine, but what my recollection

2230
03:05:45,780 --> 03:05:55,820
is that this has been in the making for at least in some kind of 2021.

2231
03:05:57,300 --> 03:06:05,780
We started this policy with acknowledging that at the time we had 55 committees for a population

2232
03:06:05,780 --> 03:06:08,140
of 17,134.

2233
03:06:11,260 --> 03:06:22,600
And we, I mean, part of the issue is as, as Rick alluded to, we don't have the staff to be able to support 55 committees.

2234
03:06:23,520 --> 03:06:31,340
And also I think one of the more important things Danielle and I were talking about this the other day and she's absolutely right.

2235
03:06:31,340 --> 03:06:50,740
We do have a strategic plan here in North Tulsa, and our hope is that every committee will be aware of that strategic plan and the goals that are contained in that strategic plan, and we will be marching forward at least in the same direction.

2236
03:06:50,980 --> 03:06:58,380
There may be a lot of pushing and pulling and contentiousness and so on, but at the end of the day we've all got to be moving in the same direction.

2237
03:06:58,380 --> 03:07:03,000
We can't have committees that are going off in a completely different direction.

2238
03:07:03,840 --> 03:07:06,960
So we're trying to work with the committees.

2239
03:07:07,520 --> 03:07:13,440
In this case, when it was brought forward, I said, okay, well, we're webpacked, special.

2240
03:07:14,720 --> 03:07:17,520
Can we get a grace period?

2241
03:07:18,060 --> 03:07:23,500
I came to the meeting, we talked about it, and then I talked to Danielle, I thought about

2242
03:07:23,500 --> 03:07:31,120
more and I realized that we've got to get bylaws approved too. And so I thought, I bring it back

2243
03:07:31,120 --> 03:07:37,280
to the committee because I don't want to be putting words on paper, for example on goals, when

2244
03:07:37,280 --> 03:07:44,300
you folks have a completely different set of priorities. And I think we all need to be on the same page.

2245
03:07:44,440 --> 03:07:51,480
So my point is simply that I've bought time, but Rick is right. I go forward basis,

2246
03:07:52,440 --> 03:07:57,360
Not only did we need to be working from the same docking, but we need to be comparing the next docking.

2247
03:07:57,980 --> 03:07:59,020
I love you.

2248
03:07:59,080 --> 03:08:00,360
I'm up every year.

2249
03:08:00,680 --> 03:08:00,780
No.

2250
03:08:01,120 --> 03:08:05,420
Because we have, by the way, it's had previously been approved for the...

2251
03:08:06,720 --> 03:08:07,440
There's been...

2252
03:08:07,440 --> 03:08:09,800
That was when I passed out in part of the...

2253
03:08:09,800 --> 03:08:10,380
2013.

2254
03:08:11,280 --> 03:08:11,760
That was put.

2255
03:08:12,080 --> 03:08:13,580
It was updated in 2013.

2256
03:08:13,860 --> 03:08:15,580
They've been around for longer than that.

2257
03:08:15,620 --> 03:08:15,880
Right.

2258
03:08:15,880 --> 03:08:28,900
But the board's preference is that you utilize the template that's contained the model in the policy.

2259
03:08:29,460 --> 03:08:41,780
If you want to add more provisions, you're welcome to do that, as long as they don't conflict with the provisions that are contained in the template.

2260
03:08:41,780 --> 03:08:57,220
So Danielle, so the committee's policy was originally adopted by the board last February, February of 22 and it gave the provision that by laws needed to be written and submitted to the board for adoption within 90 days.

2261
03:08:58,240 --> 03:09:11,500
Now that was also in the reasoning behind that was to one update by laws to match new county policies and to ensure committees were following county policies because you are a subset of the board.

2262
03:09:11,500 --> 03:09:18,700
Even though you are a committee, of all interior committee, you still have to follow county policy.

2263
03:09:19,320 --> 03:09:24,420
And so it was a way to update by laws that have been around for decades.

2264
03:09:25,300 --> 03:09:27,460
But have we did we not come back?

2265
03:09:27,860 --> 03:09:34,660
Again, because every time something like that was brought before us, we took action on it.

2266
03:09:35,720 --> 03:09:38,340
So, since we were really missing Lincoln.

2267
03:09:38,700 --> 03:09:45,260
So, in 21 when the committee's policy was adopted, again, 90 days to bring it to the board,

2268
03:09:45,620 --> 03:09:48,580
that has not happened for the World War and the Town Planning Advisory Committee,

2269
03:09:49,080 --> 03:09:53,160
the next item on your agenda is to review and discuss your updated bylaws,

2270
03:09:53,540 --> 03:09:58,100
which would then come before the Board of Supervisors to adopt.

2271
03:09:58,100 --> 03:10:08,580
Okay, so what you need from us is that at this reading is not a draft set of violence or an amendment to the

2272
03:10:08,580 --> 03:10:11,580
violence that we have, how do we get this?

2273
03:10:11,580 --> 03:10:18,120
So that's in your board packet, and I know that you've been busy, but there is in the board packet

2274
03:10:18,120 --> 03:10:20,880
for item F2,

2275
03:10:24,700 --> 03:10:35,140
I picked the template from the policy document and I went through and tried

2276
03:10:35,140 --> 03:10:44,680
to modify it so that it looked easier, I mean more life, what will want to, I filled

2277
03:10:44,680 --> 03:10:53,420
and someone explicitly. But that's the next item on the agenda. What I am hoping to do is to get

2278
03:10:53,420 --> 03:11:00,140
concurrence from the committee to be able to move forward with the annual report and the revised

2279
03:11:00,140 --> 03:11:07,400
bylaws so that we can submit those to the board and get them approved. Okay.

2280
03:11:10,960 --> 03:11:12,220
So can we talk about the

2281
03:11:13,680 --> 03:11:14,440
Okay,

2282
03:11:16,620 --> 03:11:24,360
so again, you're welcome to making any changes that you feel are necessary in appropriate.

2283
03:11:25,040 --> 03:11:29,740
According to the policy, each annual report shall minimally include the following information,

2284
03:11:30,460 --> 03:11:35,700
and overview of the projects issues topics considered by the committee in the preceding year

2285
03:11:35,700 --> 03:11:41,240
how the projects issues topics fall within the committee's purpose, and on that one,

2286
03:11:41,400 --> 03:11:44,920
that was why I thought, well, we needed to find the purpose, especially because the purpose

2287
03:11:44,920 --> 03:11:56,260
that was in existing, let's see, the purpose as it was stated in one of the committee information

2288
03:11:56,900 --> 03:12:04,120
that exists on the county website had your purpose as developing a specific town plan.

2289
03:12:04,960 --> 03:12:10,280
And so my first clue was, it's a little dated since you already have a plan.

2290
03:12:11,840 --> 03:12:16,440
So, and then any issues in peating, committee effectiveness, and goals and objectives for the next year.

2291
03:12:16,740 --> 03:12:19,000
So, those are what are required by the policy.

2292
03:12:22,020 --> 03:12:28,860
And so, again, I think what I'm asking is for you to look at the annual report as it stands right now.

2293
03:12:29,020 --> 03:12:30,460
Are you comfortable with the purpose?

2294
03:12:30,460 --> 03:12:37,380
Are you, is there anything that you want to add or subtract, but given that goals and objectives are required?

2295
03:12:38,620 --> 03:12:48,240
As I said, I made stuff up, and I need you folks to say, okay, we're comfortable with what we've identified as accomplishments for 2022,

2296
03:12:49,900 --> 03:12:55,600
and whatever you want to say about the goals that are identified there.

2297
03:12:55,600 --> 03:12:56,600
I

2298
03:12:59,090 --> 03:13:01,870
mean, is that what you want to commit to do?

2299
03:13:02,170 --> 03:13:06,090
I mean, it sounds like what Richard was saying was that,

2300
03:13:06,990 --> 03:13:12,590
at a minimum, you want to have a goal where you have,

2301
03:13:12,590 --> 03:13:16,970
at least one meeting that focuses on the,

2302
03:13:16,970 --> 03:13:20,470
the proposals contained in the STR study,

2303
03:13:20,670 --> 03:13:22,290
as they pertain to Walonga.

2304
03:13:22,950 --> 03:13:24,950
And the Walonga town plan, if anything.

2305
03:13:25,330 --> 03:13:25,930
Yeah. Yeah.

2306
03:13:25,930 --> 03:13:35,630
Yeah, so I mean, I'm just I'm looking for your input that I think is an example of the kind of thing that I suppose you might want to consider adding

2307
03:13:37,210 --> 03:13:43,250
But it's it's your set of goals, so I need to know like what Richard was saying was

2308
03:13:44,890 --> 03:13:53,410
And minimum and also thank you. I don't have an in front of me, but I do believe that one of the goals was to

2309
03:13:53,410 --> 03:13:57,990
and sitter and act on the MOU, is that right?

2310
03:13:58,410 --> 03:14:00,650
Yeah, and I want to have a closer look where

2311
03:14:01,750 --> 03:14:09,250
you have at least one meeting that focuses on the proposals

2312
03:14:09,250 --> 03:14:12,790
contained in the STR study, as they pertain to,

2313
03:14:12,790 --> 03:14:14,970
go home, and then we'll want to have a plan.

2314
03:14:15,310 --> 03:14:16,510
Well, we have a plan, yeah.

2315
03:14:17,270 --> 03:14:20,250
Yeah, so, I mean, I'm just, I'm going to bring your insight.

2316
03:14:20,250 --> 03:14:26,150
that I think is an example of the kind of thing that I suppose you might want to consider adding.

2317
03:14:26,870 --> 03:14:28,870
I think it's very practical.

2318
03:14:28,870 --> 03:14:29,930
It's very cynical.

2319
03:14:31,170 --> 03:14:33,510
I need to know, I need to know, I need to know.

2320
03:14:36,170 --> 03:14:44,810
You can also, I don't have an infront of me, but I do believe that one of the goals has to consider

2321
03:14:44,810 --> 03:14:47,510
and act on the M-O-O-O.

2322
03:14:48,130 --> 03:14:48,790
I mean, I mean, I'm so sorry.

2323
03:14:49,190 --> 03:14:50,730
Yeah, I just want to share the voice

2324
03:14:50,730 --> 03:14:52,750
with your close to my call,

2325
03:14:53,230 --> 03:14:53,790
and to the show.

2326
03:14:54,470 --> 03:14:55,730
And the most wonderful thing,

2327
03:14:56,050 --> 03:14:59,970
that focuses on what will be the place for closely.

2328
03:15:00,080 --> 03:15:06,620
We're just continuing to be as charged as the campaign to vote for the law of the law of council and the laws of the council.

2329
03:15:07,820 --> 03:15:15,340
So, I mean, I'm just saying I'm just saying I'm just saying that that, I think, is it my example of the kind of vote that I sent to vote?

2330
03:15:15,600 --> 03:15:19,760
I think we're looking for a candidate, we can vote, they can vote, we'll try to vote.

2331
03:15:19,760 --> 03:15:22,520
But sure, Santa Golobe, so, we need to vote.

2332
03:15:22,880 --> 03:15:24,880
Thank you. We should be standing up the stage.

2333
03:15:24,880 --> 03:15:25,760
The

2334
03:15:47,390 --> 03:16:13,050
committee

2335
03:27:29,240 --> 03:27:32,360
is more created, they are so purpose.

2336
03:27:32,360 --> 03:27:39,750
was to help raise of your town plan and implement certain factors you want it in your town plan.

2337
03:27:41,110 --> 03:27:46,930
So again, one of the reasons we implemented this committee is again, we have 55 committees.

2338
03:27:47,150 --> 03:27:50,490
Several committees have straight away from their original purpose.

2339
03:27:51,450 --> 03:27:58,530
And so first let's start with our annual report and then we can get into this conversation a little further with your bylaws,

2340
03:27:58,650 --> 03:28:02,010
because that's where you're going to need to change the purpose of this committee.

2341
03:28:02,010 --> 03:28:15,130
So let me try Marty. I think what Danielle is saying is that there are of the 51 now that the Board has taken action to dissolve for.

2342
03:28:15,390 --> 03:28:26,070
Of the 51 committees that exist in Maraposa County that are advisory to the Board of Supervisors, a portion of them.

2343
03:28:26,070 --> 03:28:31,370
I'm going to guess that it's about 15, about 15 of these were created.

2344
03:28:31,890 --> 03:28:33,330
There's their sole purpose.

2345
03:28:33,930 --> 03:28:39,310
It was to help to bond the boundaries of your town's plan and implement certain factors

2346
03:28:39,310 --> 03:28:40,930
you wanted in your town's plan.

2347
03:28:41,770 --> 03:28:47,210
So, again, one of the reasons we implemented this committee is, again, we've put

2348
03:28:47,210 --> 03:28:47,950
in five committees.

2349
03:28:48,210 --> 03:28:51,570
Several committees have straight away from their original purpose.

2350
03:28:51,570 --> 03:28:56,730
And so first let's let's start with our annual report and then we can get into the

2351
03:28:56,730 --> 03:29:00,850
conversation a little further with your bylaws because that's where you're going to

2352
03:29:00,850 --> 03:29:03,010
need to change the purpose of this committee.

2353
03:29:03,410 --> 03:29:09,450
So in the commentary, I think, and that is the, we are genuinely saying in the

2354
03:29:09,450 --> 03:29:14,830
slide of the, there's of the Fifth Service 51 now that the Board has taken actual

2355
03:29:14,830 --> 03:29:25,510
of the 51 communities around that exist so in Mariposa County that are advisory to the Board of Supervisors, obviously you have an interest.

2356
03:29:25,630 --> 03:29:29,530
A portion of them, and I'm going to guess that it's about 15.

2357
03:29:29,750 --> 03:29:34,410
About 15 of them are created. They're full for this.

2358
03:29:34,410 --> 03:29:40,610
was to help to broaden the boundary under town plans and implement certain factors in

2359
03:29:40,610 --> 03:29:46,490
one of the EU champions. So again, which doesn't think one of the reasons we implemented this

2360
03:29:46,490 --> 03:29:50,850
committee is, again, we have to think about committees. Several committees have strayed

2361
03:29:50,850 --> 03:29:56,410
away from their original purpose. And so first let's close here, we start with our

2362
03:29:56,410 --> 03:29:59,970
we're in this weekend in this conversation a little more further with you.

2363
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:03,980
I'm Aussie, if that's why I'm ashamed to change the purpose of this committee.

2364
03:30:03,980 --> 03:30:12,240
So it's been a period of time, if that is then what can you say is that there's

2365
03:30:12,240 --> 03:30:17,340
of the people in the world who can actually build this all over the world.

2366
03:30:17,560 --> 03:30:24,140
But the 51 countries that exist, so the Americans can't adapt and apply three to the

2367
03:30:24,140 --> 03:30:24,920
four supervisors.

2368
03:30:25,620 --> 03:30:26,380
Obviously you have one.

2369
03:30:26,520 --> 03:30:30,660
So if you're pushing that bill, I'm going to guess that it's about 15.

2370
03:31:02,100 --> 03:31:05,100
Please pay attention to the purpose of this community.

2371
03:31:05,280 --> 03:31:08,360
Herpsis, the community, the communities, the communities,

2372
03:31:08,740 --> 03:31:13,190
and not reflect necessarily reflected in the community

2373
03:31:13,190 --> 03:31:14,350
specific science.

2374
03:31:14,810 --> 03:31:16,090
Does that help?

2375
03:31:17,090 --> 03:31:17,410
So what?

2376
03:31:18,010 --> 03:31:23,510
OK, and so the rest of it is really laid out in the M.M.U.

2377
03:31:24,190 --> 03:31:26,010
And then of course, like with every other,

2378
03:31:45,390 --> 03:31:54,330
Okay, so in the blue paragraph there, I'm going to talk about the yellow paragraph, if I look at the

2379
03:31:54,330 --> 03:31:56,350
what's divided up, and what's like number one,

2380
03:31:56,690 --> 03:31:59,710
our job is to implement the town plan and develop updates.

2381
03:32:00,350 --> 03:32:03,470
Number two, work with the county and the MPS.

2382
03:32:03,730 --> 03:32:04,490
It does, I don't know.

2383
03:32:04,490 --> 03:32:08,130
No, I think three that says, give advice to the county and other.

2384
03:32:08,450 --> 03:32:10,930
So I don't know which one you're looking to do.

2385
03:32:10,930 --> 03:32:11,630
Is that a whole thing at?

2386
03:32:11,630 --> 03:32:15,370
There's a blue one, and what the purpose is act,

2387
03:32:15,530 --> 03:32:18,070
the first sentence is act as an advisory body

2388
03:32:18,070 --> 03:32:18,870
to the mayor of places.

2389
03:32:19,030 --> 03:32:19,850
It says four.

2390
03:32:20,150 --> 03:32:23,490
So it's qualified that this is four number one input

2391
03:32:23,490 --> 03:32:24,490
in the Tom Plan.

2392
03:32:25,290 --> 03:32:30,350
Also, the purpose of this is, and then it says, and then it says, and word between

2393
03:32:30,350 --> 03:32:31,570
and trying to be, yes.

2394
03:32:32,110 --> 03:32:36,610
It should be at number three, and it seems like it says, and other topics are interesting

2395
03:32:37,490 --> 03:32:38,410
to the community.

2396
03:32:39,570 --> 03:32:44,730
We advise that the planning to commission on other topics, and see, it kind of looks

2397
03:32:44,730 --> 03:32:48,530
like it's limited to the Tom Plan, and in case of the MPS.

2398
03:32:48,530 --> 03:32:55,690
Well, I think just the stretchers, yeah, the last sentence says that, participating in discussions

2399
03:32:55,690 --> 03:33:01,450
between the county and national partners on all issues of fact in private parking more, that's

2400
03:33:01,450 --> 03:33:09,770
no it's really, it says it, it says the clean, yeah. Right. So, part of it is that we hate county,

2401
03:33:10,070 --> 03:33:17,290
not for part of you. So, we answer to the county, okay, so we can't have discussions between

2402
03:33:17,290 --> 03:33:18,430
to many more people.

2403
03:33:21,170 --> 03:33:29,210
So I make a motion that we approve, or that we submit the rules, have planning advisors

2404
03:33:29,210 --> 03:33:37,150
in any report, as it's in the packet, with the additions that have been stated on the goals

2405
03:33:37,150 --> 03:33:40,150
and objectives for 2023 and there's five.

2406
03:33:41,470 --> 03:33:41,990
Yes.

2407
03:33:45,510 --> 03:33:55,140
This is the motion on the table, the discussion, correct me, chat, call.

2408
03:33:56,620 --> 03:33:58,680
You need to check, yeah, you need to check.

2409
03:33:58,680 --> 03:33:59,540
You need to check, you need to check, you need to check, you need to check.

2410
03:34:18,840 --> 03:34:27,900
I have a comment to that.

2411
03:34:27,900 --> 03:34:33,820
County Council has already decided that that is because there is an overlapping of

2412
03:34:33,820 --> 03:34:39,760
Polo and what pack so that one of our polo meetings is in session we have a

2413
03:34:39,760 --> 03:34:43,040
poem of what you do not have.

2414
03:34:43,340 --> 03:34:46,600
Yeah, and so it was, because that's what's happening.

2415
03:34:46,920 --> 03:34:53,600
We have our polo meetings we have and we have a poem of what pack and so just as getting together

2416
03:34:53,600 --> 03:34:58,200
talking could be a violation in Kelly Council's opinion.

2417
03:34:58,900 --> 03:35:00,420
And that's why I went to that number,

2418
03:35:00,600 --> 03:35:02,540
which is a difficult number to have.

2419
03:35:02,780 --> 03:35:03,560
But that's why.

2420
03:35:03,600 --> 03:35:03,820
Right.

2421
03:35:04,260 --> 03:35:06,020
And let's see, it's changed as a position.

2422
03:35:07,320 --> 03:35:08,160
And that can't change.

2423
03:35:08,360 --> 03:35:09,320
Can we start out the number?

2424
03:35:09,540 --> 03:35:13,020
There is no, because the number of wet facts.

2425
03:35:14,480 --> 03:35:17,440
And we want to pull our members, but that's not the same composition.

2426
03:35:18,220 --> 03:35:18,960
And we want to do it.

2427
03:35:19,220 --> 03:35:21,300
Green, but it can always go back to it.

2428
03:35:21,300 --> 03:35:26,000
The limit is as always a danger that by having

2429
03:35:26,000 --> 03:35:28,720
with too many people participate in both the wetpack

2430
03:35:28,720 --> 03:35:32,680
and the alcohol that you can have by,

2431
03:35:32,680 --> 03:35:34,400
you know, a conflict of interest, basically.

2432
03:35:34,680 --> 03:35:36,760
I call this one, you go badly at the Brown Act.

2433
03:35:37,180 --> 03:35:41,220
So, no, I'm afraid of that, but I'm not as concerned

2434
03:35:41,220 --> 03:35:46,000
that the only danger I would see in the court

2435
03:35:46,000 --> 03:35:47,420
of that is getting informed.

2436
03:35:47,780 --> 03:35:49,260
Yeah, he's up to 15.

2437
03:35:49,260 --> 03:35:55,820
That, well, there's different things that we do have, is hard to get seven people here at a time.

2438
03:35:56,020 --> 03:35:58,220
I mean, we barely got there this time.

2439
03:35:58,720 --> 03:36:04,400
So, what I would suggest, and I'm not suggesting this is another goal, because we'll do it offline.

2440
03:36:04,860 --> 03:36:10,640
But I think, you know, we can sit down, we can talk about who's on Webboa, who's on Webpack.

2441
03:36:10,940 --> 03:36:16,120
We can talk about what the Webboa, who's on Webpack, how you get on to Webboa.

2442
03:36:16,120 --> 03:36:21,800
And maybe there's a safeguard there that says if you're already serving on Webpack above a certain number

2443
03:36:21,800 --> 03:36:26,960
You don't get to join the WebPolar board. So we can talk about it. It is in fact the number

2444
03:36:29,800 --> 03:36:35,980
1315 is is too high of R. But let's talk about that all the time. Okay.

2445
03:36:38,000 --> 03:36:40,470
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So we'll keep it. I think.

2446
03:36:46,350 --> 03:36:50,470
I think it's important that this is what I said now.

2447
03:36:52,210 --> 03:36:53,250
When is the next one?

2448
03:36:54,890 --> 03:36:56,470
It's not over six.

2449
03:36:57,770 --> 03:36:58,430
Okay, is that set?

2450
03:36:58,850 --> 03:37:00,670
So there's also one now.

2451
03:37:01,350 --> 03:37:05,350
Well, actually, I don't know that we know that.

2452
03:37:05,490 --> 03:37:07,010
That was a date that was floated.

2453
03:37:10,890 --> 03:37:13,470
But we can't commit to that.

2454
03:37:13,630 --> 03:37:19,370
I think right now it's going to be a date in October and we'll need to work together to define

2455
03:37:19,370 --> 03:37:20,290
what that date is.

2456
03:37:20,610 --> 03:37:25,750
What I'm saying is we're trying to coordinate with both both, so we can be defining the point of

2457
03:37:25,750 --> 03:37:34,110
We need to set the unit dance, so this is our total date and place in the unit.

2458
03:37:34,750 --> 03:37:46,590
I have tried to do that since I've been, and we've been successful so far, to be able

2459
03:37:46,590 --> 03:37:53,070
to schedule the WEPA community one day on the weekends with a whole map, but that is not

2460
03:37:53,070 --> 03:37:57,810
requirements that we have to fulfill, we've just done it and we've been able to make it happen.

2461
03:37:58,870 --> 03:38:03,570
This meeting is outside there is no other rapport meeting around that we have the county

2462
03:38:03,570 --> 03:38:05,330
topics especially that we need to cover.

2463
03:38:06,570 --> 03:38:12,510
So yeah, I think what we're at and what Ed has read of as far as the motion.

2464
03:38:13,930 --> 03:38:16,830
If you need one more time, make sure I want to call it all on it.

2465
03:38:16,830 --> 03:38:18,910
So I have a really bad, could you read it back?

2466
03:38:19,490 --> 03:38:20,630
That's one moment.

2467
03:38:22,050 --> 03:38:28,230
So the motion was to approve the annual report

2468
03:38:28,230 --> 03:38:34,270
as submitted with the two additions for a total of five new goals.

2469
03:38:35,110 --> 03:38:38,090
And the goals were being defined in a specific plan violations

2470
03:38:38,670 --> 03:38:39,950
in the whole plan.

2471
03:38:40,450 --> 03:38:41,950
And then develop and communicate what

2472
03:38:41,950 --> 03:38:45,730
his response to options identified in the county STR study.

2473
03:38:55,270 --> 03:38:59,510
So you have a, you have, it's been moved and seconded.

2474
03:39:00,470 --> 03:39:00,890
So.

2475
03:39:00,890 --> 03:39:02,470
We're in discussion right now.

2476
03:39:03,630 --> 03:39:05,790
So I didn't do discussion.

2477
03:39:07,190 --> 03:39:09,950
So you already have a motion and a second.

2478
03:39:10,210 --> 03:39:11,770
So any if you're going to add anything.

2479
03:39:12,410 --> 03:39:14,030
His motion would need to be withdrawn.

2480
03:39:14,610 --> 03:39:17,590
And then you'd have to make a new motion to add anything additional.

2481
03:39:20,110 --> 03:39:23,350
He has to withdraw and then you can create a new one.

2482
03:39:26,690 --> 03:39:30,390
So, if you want to add that change the motion.

2483
03:39:31,570 --> 03:39:35,310
Yeah, so I can consider working at the number of members.

2484
03:39:36,610 --> 03:39:38,350
Of course, it's a value of 1.

2485
03:39:39,330 --> 03:39:49,290
I'll see if it's feasible to reduce the number of membership requirements to a level

2486
03:39:49,290 --> 03:39:51,610
that would not create a problem in the future.

2487
03:39:52,070 --> 03:39:54,150
So I don't want to amend my motion.

2488
03:39:54,730 --> 03:39:58,090
I think that should be one of the, it's a goal.

2489
03:39:58,650 --> 03:40:02,450
And when we have a meeting, put that on the agenda as a goal,

2490
03:40:02,690 --> 03:40:04,610
and we'll talk about it at that time.

2491
03:40:04,610 --> 03:40:11,630
Okay. I think we need to move this through and get other work. We've lost all of the audience.

2492
03:40:11,950 --> 03:40:12,290
Okay.

2493
03:40:12,670 --> 03:40:13,530
I would draw.

2494
03:40:13,750 --> 03:40:14,290
Think of a second.

2495
03:40:15,450 --> 03:40:18,490
So, we have a motion on the table.

2496
03:40:18,750 --> 03:40:19,250
Let's make a motion.

2497
03:40:20,090 --> 03:40:21,610
It's been seconded.

2498
03:40:22,410 --> 03:40:23,790
We call the roll.

2499
03:40:26,610 --> 03:40:27,790
We have to do it.

2500
03:40:28,190 --> 03:40:28,670
No, no, no.

2501
03:40:28,830 --> 03:40:30,510
No, no. This is an actual motion.

2502
03:40:30,510 --> 03:40:30,790
I know.

2503
03:40:31,250 --> 03:40:32,550
We'll call the roll on the favor.

2504
03:40:33,850 --> 03:40:33,930
Bye.

2505
03:40:34,350 --> 03:40:34,530
Bye.

2506
03:40:35,930 --> 03:40:39,450
I suppose, not in the point in Paris.

2507
03:40:41,090 --> 03:40:43,690
I have a procedural question.

2508
03:40:44,790 --> 03:40:46,390
In twenty- twenty-one minutes,

2509
03:40:47,170 --> 03:40:49,370
the administration to the committees?

2510
03:40:49,550 --> 03:40:49,950
No.

2511
03:40:50,250 --> 03:40:50,410
Sure.

2512
03:40:51,470 --> 03:40:51,610
Yeah.

2513
03:40:52,230 --> 03:40:53,390
Well, I don't want to...

2514
03:40:53,390 --> 03:40:54,850
She knows the history better than I do,

2515
03:40:54,930 --> 03:40:57,630
but it was in twenty-two.

2516
03:40:57,630 --> 03:40:58,130
Oh, okay.

2517
03:40:58,310 --> 03:41:01,610
So, did the process say

2518
03:41:01,610 --> 03:41:10,370
The home was in the construction mission, and if there was no response, but there was a reasonable kind, was there a follow?

2519
03:41:11,190 --> 03:41:11,670
Yes.

2520
03:41:11,670 --> 03:41:13,670
I'm not remembering that.

2521
03:41:14,410 --> 03:41:14,890
Yep.

2522
03:41:15,010 --> 03:41:15,330
Oh, go ahead.

2523
03:41:15,630 --> 03:41:15,830
No.

2524
03:41:16,090 --> 03:41:21,170
So I've mentioned this every meeting I've been at, every meeting of the web page.

2525
03:41:21,930 --> 03:41:22,910
The policy.

2526
03:41:23,290 --> 03:41:29,250
And at the last meeting, in fact, we talked about the annual report, right?

2527
03:41:29,250 --> 03:41:31,650
because I, we were like,

2528
03:41:31,870 --> 03:41:33,530
it's time to respect, it's okay.

2529
03:41:34,190 --> 03:41:37,510
Now, you have to move on now to the same thing

2530
03:41:37,510 --> 03:41:38,970
as the next time, I'm on the agenda

2531
03:41:38,970 --> 03:41:40,190
to review and discuss recommended.

2532
03:41:40,870 --> 03:41:43,810
If there was no respond, we had a lot of time,

2533
03:41:44,050 --> 03:41:48,430
and it was, oh, yes, I'm glad I did this.

2534
03:41:48,830 --> 03:41:50,030
But, I'm glad, no.

2535
03:41:50,510 --> 03:41:54,190
So I've mentioned this every meeting I've been

2536
03:41:54,190 --> 03:41:57,370
at, every meeting of the Welfaf, the policy,

2537
03:41:57,370 --> 03:42:05,550
And at the last meeting, in fact, we talked about that in your report, right, because I would first do it, I wouldn't recommend it.

2538
03:42:05,890 --> 03:42:06,010
Okay.

2539
03:42:06,550 --> 03:42:08,110
And here's the fact that we're looking forward.

2540
03:42:08,310 --> 03:42:08,830
No, we're just looking.

2541
03:42:09,170 --> 03:42:11,930
We're going to need to follow now to the same thing.

2542
03:42:12,090 --> 03:42:16,550
The next item we need to know is largely to adopt the model by laws.

2543
03:42:16,730 --> 03:42:18,410
And this is a great start.

2544
03:42:19,070 --> 03:42:25,070
As supervisors welcome noted, we have unique characteristics in the war.

2545
03:42:25,070 --> 03:42:35,470
And I think it behooves us to, you know, consider carefully whether or not anything can help us with respect to our bylaws for this community.

2546
03:42:35,950 --> 03:42:54,470
And I'd like to recommend to one that, and again, as noted, the purpose of this committee is actually more, and I appreciate the discussion of garbage in the discussion of light and in, and that sort of things by the committee.

2547
03:42:54,470 --> 03:43:01,850
But really, I think this committee is formed to and should, as its basis,

2548
03:43:03,250 --> 03:43:09,490
kind of matters are to look into property rights and property values of those people

2549
03:43:09,490 --> 03:43:12,830
who live, reside, and unproperating the law.

2550
03:43:13,510 --> 03:43:16,350
And that is what we ought to state focused on.

2551
03:43:16,450 --> 03:43:20,530
In that respect, as I mentioned earlier, I think the MOU,

2552
03:43:21,970 --> 03:43:29,910
considerations and the STR considerations to the extent that it might, in fact, the specific

2553
03:43:29,910 --> 03:43:35,570
plan, those are, I mean, those are the elephants in the room for this year in my opinion,

2554
03:43:36,010 --> 03:43:41,070
with respect to the MOU, I think language, specific language has to be added to purposes

2555
03:43:41,070 --> 03:43:41,830
of the committee.

2556
03:43:42,430 --> 03:43:48,270
And I don't think it needs to be a lot of language added, but maybe in section three of

2557
03:43:48,270 --> 03:43:55,310
purposes of the committee. At the end of that section, we could add the language comma, including

2558
03:43:55,310 --> 03:44:01,130
proposed changes to the MOU between the county of Maraposa and the National Park Service.

2559
03:44:02,130 --> 03:44:10,110
And then, as I indicated earlier, Mr. Chairman, there's big expectations for us by the county

2560
03:44:10,110 --> 03:44:17,570
of supervisors, and we can't afford to drop the call more and much behind in terms of

2561
03:44:17,570 --> 03:44:23,090
a new obligations to the board for this coming year, may I would like to recommend

2562
03:44:23,090 --> 03:44:29,850
if it's appropriate for bylaws, may that we add an article entitled annual project slash

2563
03:44:29,850 --> 03:44:39,890
reporting, and that we annually put specific dates where my, we will establish our annual

2564
03:44:39,890 --> 03:44:43,950
priority to apply with the Board of Supervisors'

2565
03:44:44,350 --> 03:44:48,690
move policy and that we have a grant,

2566
03:44:49,030 --> 03:44:53,070
with poor annual report of the move accomplishments

2567
03:44:53,070 --> 03:44:56,910
and expectations for this year and expectations

2568
03:44:56,910 --> 03:44:58,270
to the following year.

2569
03:44:58,610 --> 03:44:59,970
So we don't find ourselves in there.

2570
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:27,060
All this, doing something that was required of us new in it. So, I know that it's an additional amount of work, but I think it can be acquiring it, and by the way, I commend you serve me. When I went through the county regulation resolution, and I saw the amount of requirements that have been done here in the committee, it's substantial me.

2571
03:45:27,060 --> 03:45:32,580
And I thank you, and I commend you for your role, and I'm

2572
03:45:32,580 --> 03:45:36,240
looking forward to working with you to go ahead and

2573
03:45:36,240 --> 03:45:38,500
comply with these reports.

2574
03:45:39,160 --> 03:45:42,480
So I think we ought to, at the first meeting,

2575
03:45:42,780 --> 03:45:48,320
at the end of the year, specify more annual goals and objectives.

2576
03:45:49,260 --> 03:45:54,380
And then, no later than, say, February 1st, we'll have a

2577
03:45:54,380 --> 03:46:00,900
the draft ready of our accomplishments and goals for the succeeding year so that we can present

2578
03:46:00,900 --> 03:46:08,100
that to the board by the deadline of April of April 1. Thank you for the succeeding opportunity.

2579
03:46:10,260 --> 03:46:13,820
So, I think we got to point.

2580
03:46:16,740 --> 03:46:20,740
Could you repeat what you said article three?

2581
03:46:20,740 --> 03:46:24,160
Yeah, again Mr. Chairman.

2582
03:46:24,740 --> 03:46:29,400
Article 3 is Article 2 under purposes of the committee.

2583
03:46:30,040 --> 03:46:35,640
In section 3 at the end, add the language comma,

2584
03:46:36,380 --> 03:46:42,900
including proposed changes to the MOU between the County of Maraposa

2585
03:46:42,900 --> 03:46:44,980
and the National Park Service.

2586
03:46:46,040 --> 03:46:48,880
So, I'm sorry, what's up in the movie?

2587
03:46:49,380 --> 03:46:51,980
Is an article two section three?

2588
03:46:52,700 --> 03:46:53,520
First page.

2589
03:46:53,960 --> 03:46:54,880
Section C?

2590
03:46:58,340 --> 03:46:58,840
Um...

2591
03:46:58,840 --> 03:46:59,120
Yeah.

2592
03:46:59,440 --> 03:47:00,860
Maybe I don't have the right one.

2593
03:47:01,480 --> 03:47:02,300
Section C.

2594
03:47:02,840 --> 03:47:03,760
Are you working on Facebook?

2595
03:47:04,240 --> 03:47:04,540
Yeah, that's the old one.

2596
03:47:04,620 --> 03:47:05,500
Yeah, that's the old one.

2597
03:47:06,300 --> 03:47:06,560
Yeah, that's the old one.

2598
03:47:06,560 --> 03:47:06,760
Sorry.

2599
03:47:07,400 --> 03:47:07,520
Yeah.

2600
03:47:08,400 --> 03:47:08,580
Sorry.

2601
03:47:08,860 --> 03:47:09,980
Is there anything in the new one?

2602
03:47:10,220 --> 03:47:12,620
Is there anything in the new one?

2603
03:47:15,620 --> 03:47:17,820
It's the one from the board package.

2604
03:47:17,940 --> 03:47:19,080
I'm starting Mr. Chairman.

2605
03:47:19,480 --> 03:47:21,420
I got the one by all of us.

2606
03:47:21,640 --> 03:47:25,560
Well, maybe I could just have three of them on paper.

2607
03:47:25,900 --> 03:47:28,620
So if they do not have the county emblems at the top of them,

2608
03:47:28,720 --> 03:47:31,720
they're not the newly revised bylaws.

2609
03:47:33,940 --> 03:47:34,040
Yeah.

2610
03:47:34,040 --> 03:47:34,620
I want to go.

2611
03:47:34,620 --> 03:47:34,980
One more.

2612
03:47:35,160 --> 03:47:35,940
That looks so bad.

2613
03:47:36,560 --> 03:47:37,000
Okay.

2614
03:47:37,400 --> 03:47:37,740
All right.

2615
03:47:38,880 --> 03:47:39,320
Okay.

2616
03:47:39,680 --> 03:47:40,740
Well, Mr. Chairman.

2617
03:47:42,600 --> 03:47:46,160
Oh, I see, there's no.

2618
03:47:47,540 --> 03:47:53,620
So I'm sorry, Rick, what, what is, I'm sorry, what is it that you, you want the by-laws to reference

2619
03:47:53,620 --> 03:47:54,460
the MOU?

2620
03:47:55,360 --> 03:48:03,800
He wants to, he's proposing to change the purpose of the committee to include having, as say,

2621
03:48:03,920 --> 03:48:07,240
and proposed changes in the MOU between the county and the MOU.

2622
03:48:07,440 --> 03:48:12,100
Mr. Chairman, I'm not going to roll that part of my request because I see it.

2623
03:48:12,100 --> 03:48:19,380
It's already included in Section B of the Milo by Laws in Is that Lou?

2624
03:48:19,800 --> 03:48:20,240
Yes.

2625
03:48:20,240 --> 03:48:20,540
Yes.

2626
03:48:20,740 --> 03:48:25,040
We'll take it talks about the MLU between May and May and May.

2627
03:48:25,220 --> 03:48:26,460
So I have a draw.

2628
03:48:27,100 --> 03:48:29,160
I mean, I'm not sure as to how it is.

2629
03:48:31,280 --> 03:48:32,080
So for me.

2630
03:48:32,620 --> 03:48:33,980
I always present that to you.

2631
03:48:35,200 --> 03:48:35,800
Me?

2632
03:48:36,660 --> 03:48:38,120
I said it wasn't that.

2633
03:48:48,340 --> 03:48:50,580
I'm sorry, Roger, what information?

2634
03:48:51,060 --> 03:48:51,480
What information?

2635
03:48:51,480 --> 03:48:55,500
Well, okay, do you look at the first page and go to the page by a second.

2636
03:48:56,380 --> 03:48:58,220
Look at the first page.

2637
03:48:58,940 --> 03:49:00,100
The second page.

2638
03:49:00,820 --> 03:49:02,060
The first page.

2639
03:49:02,060 --> 03:49:04,180
In production and service.

2640
03:49:08,000 --> 03:49:10,060
Oh, I see.

2641
03:49:11,580 --> 03:49:15,560
And there's a page that's missing.

2642
03:49:16,120 --> 03:49:16,380
I don't know.

2643
03:49:18,100 --> 03:49:20,780
And that's the rule that we've heard of.

2644
03:49:21,680 --> 03:49:23,680
And then I see a picture.

2645
03:49:24,480 --> 03:49:24,640
No.

2646
03:49:26,500 --> 03:49:28,520
Is this something?

2647
03:49:30,580 --> 03:49:34,520
this is fine, this is fine to go to a distrust and we can help it.

2648
03:49:35,060 --> 03:49:39,340
So, the lack of, when you choose to do it, it's not connected to some of the systems.

2649
03:49:39,740 --> 03:49:41,720
You never get it, you have to.

2650
03:49:42,100 --> 03:49:44,180
How many of those families have you set it?

2651
03:49:44,260 --> 03:49:51,180
This has the, in the top, of the month this has parts is best find,

2652
03:49:51,240 --> 03:49:54,760
I find for teachers, there's one right here?

2653
03:50:03,040 --> 03:50:09,000
So it would be packet page 161, and it does start with Article 1 purpose and authority.

2654
03:50:09,720 --> 03:50:15,680
And it states Section A, this committee is established under authority of resolution number 99-10

2655
03:50:15,680 --> 03:50:20,080
in 98-197 and ordinance 973.

2656
03:50:27,700 --> 03:50:30,080
This is the packet I pulled off the county website.

2657
03:50:40,080 --> 03:50:46,120
I am the issue is that there is something missing, the bus chair, and then there should be

2658
03:50:46,120 --> 03:50:51,360
something missing about the secretary, right, and there should be a case where there is

2659
03:50:51,360 --> 03:50:55,200
a case where there is something missing about that.

2660
03:50:55,260 --> 03:50:58,460
Now, these are the ones that were adopted in 2013.

2661
03:50:58,660 --> 03:50:59,560
And these are really impacted?

2662
03:50:59,960 --> 03:51:00,340
Yeah.

2663
03:51:01,440 --> 03:51:01,740
Yeah.

2664
03:51:01,740 --> 03:51:08,880
Yeah, if you want, you can push this to the next level if you want until it can be.

2665
03:51:11,680 --> 03:51:14,100
That's the only choice you have to make sure they get all the information.

2666
03:51:15,760 --> 03:51:20,160
So you can make a motion to propose moving into.

2667
03:51:22,120 --> 03:51:23,660
All right.

2668
03:51:24,240 --> 03:51:27,080
I'm not going to get through the bylaws today.

2669
03:51:27,080 --> 03:51:27,720
I apologize.

2670
03:51:28,540 --> 03:51:36,780
Well, there's obviously so the information, sorry, the information at the bottom of the page,

2671
03:51:37,100 --> 03:51:44,320
that's titled Volonetown Planning Advisory Committee bylaws, it is a section C, which talks

2672
03:51:44,320 --> 03:51:52,500
about the duties of the chairperson, and there's obviously some in a line or two that is

2673
03:51:52,500 --> 03:51:58,300
section D, that talks about the secretary, and then the role of the secretary, which means

2674
03:51:58,300 --> 03:52:01,260
who maintains a list of all that, the group, or similar to Sharia.

2675
03:52:01,920 --> 03:52:06,840
So there's a sense, or two, that are missing, and we're going to talk about the problem.

2676
03:52:13,910 --> 03:52:14,090
Okay.

2677
03:52:15,830 --> 03:52:15,890
Okay.

2678
03:52:17,450 --> 03:52:21,730
Procedurally, it's probably best that somebody make a motion to table this conversation

2679
03:52:21,730 --> 03:52:26,850
to the next meeting, so the proper wording can be added.

2680
03:52:26,850 --> 03:52:33,170
Okay, next meeting is not until I don't know, okay, but let's finish the meeting to make the motion.

2681
03:52:37,240 --> 03:52:38,260
Okay, do we have a motion?

2682
03:52:38,260 --> 03:52:49,320
I'll make the motion that we table the update to the by-law's Mark Holster County Board of Supervisors until we have complete information and documentage.

2683
03:52:55,150 --> 03:52:56,330
If we need a second.

2684
03:52:56,390 --> 03:52:57,670
The second is there.

2685
03:52:57,930 --> 03:52:59,090
Okay, I'm sorry.

2686
03:53:00,290 --> 03:53:00,470
Okay.

2687
03:53:00,470 --> 03:53:04,470
and second it and any discussion?

2688
03:53:05,830 --> 03:53:07,070
All in favor say aye.

2689
03:53:08,290 --> 03:53:08,910
I'll vote.

2690
03:53:24,320 --> 03:53:27,320
Next item down is approval of the minutes.

2691
03:53:28,500 --> 03:53:28,980
I'm in bed.

2692
03:53:29,560 --> 03:53:33,920
How did that would have been a minutes from our last meeting,

2693
03:53:34,200 --> 03:53:36,960
which is on June 17, second year?

2694
03:53:39,120 --> 03:53:40,740
Do I have a more can to approve?

2695
03:53:41,780 --> 03:53:46,860
I wanted to be a program that's a program that needs to be set to be set to be set to be set to be set to be set to be set to be set to be set to be set to be set.

2696
03:53:46,860 --> 03:53:55,180
I have this movement saying that in the discussion on paper, I pose none of the items that I have seen.

2697
03:53:55,180 --> 03:53:58,680
By the same. We have trips, accidents, and the moves that we're not here.

2698
03:54:00,120 --> 03:54:02,620
The summer holidays, I'm waiting.

2699
03:54:02,620 --> 03:54:12,540
if that's not a form of the whole thing, we have a core, and we just have two people

2700
03:54:12,540 --> 03:54:17,320
that are saying, but once they have stained, that's what you do.

2701
03:54:17,320 --> 03:54:18,200
Still have to have a core.

2702
03:54:18,540 --> 03:54:19,000
Still have a core.

2703
03:54:19,920 --> 03:54:20,100
Yeah.

2704
03:54:20,100 --> 03:54:22,060
You have to have a core.

2705
03:54:23,080 --> 03:54:23,660
Yeah.

2706
03:54:24,060 --> 03:54:24,300
Yeah.

2707
03:54:25,480 --> 03:54:26,920
Moving on down.

2708
03:54:29,110 --> 03:54:29,910
Integration item.

2709
03:54:30,270 --> 03:54:30,650
Updates.

2710
03:54:31,050 --> 03:54:31,970
Board of Supervisors.

2711
03:54:33,890 --> 03:54:34,290
Okay.

2712
03:54:34,290 --> 03:54:52,690
So what I will tell you is that we are more or less where we at this point respect to the ambulance day.

2713
03:54:53,710 --> 03:55:03,070
We're more or less aware of the work, but I will read to you from the report from our lobbyist.

2714
03:55:03,710 --> 03:55:07,710
He says, let's pray for those who may not have been here.

2715
03:55:07,970 --> 03:55:10,450
The Senate of Corporations Committee voted to approve the funding,

2716
03:55:10,450 --> 03:55:15,950
and we're going to show a remote development FBA bill on June 22, 2023.

2717
03:55:16,510 --> 03:55:19,910
The Senate appropriations committee continue to approve

2718
03:55:19,910 --> 03:55:23,270
their appropriations bills over the course of the month of July,

2719
03:55:23,790 --> 03:55:27,990
with the goal of bringing all 12 appropriations bills to the full Senate

2720
03:55:27,990 --> 03:55:32,350
in the month of September when you return from their annual August 3 sets.

2721
03:55:32,570 --> 03:55:36,570
The purpose will need to negotiate a path forward on fiscal year 24

2722
03:55:36,570 --> 03:55:41,930
more variations in order to avoid a government shutdown at the end of the current fiscal year

2723
03:55:41,930 --> 03:55:48,030
on September 30th. The most likely path will be a short-term extension of existing funding

2724
03:55:48,030 --> 03:55:54,170
into December to allow house and senate negotiators to reach an agreement on fiscal year 24th

2725
03:55:54,170 --> 03:56:01,370
funding. In fiscal years 22 and 23, the house and senate has simply merged their respective

2726
03:56:01,370 --> 03:56:05,830
list of approved earmarks, and we are told to anticipate the same measure.

2727
03:56:07,310 --> 03:56:13,090
This would mean that if house incentive investigators are able to start the deal on fiscal

2728
03:56:13,090 --> 03:56:18,470
year 24 funding, the county's earmark for the Hawaii ambulance, they would be included

2729
03:56:18,470 --> 03:56:19,870
as part of that agreement.

2730
03:56:20,750 --> 03:56:24,130
We do not expect this to happen before December of the year weeks.

2731
03:56:24,790 --> 03:56:29,550
So basically it's still moving its way through the process, but the fact that it's moving

2732
03:56:29,550 --> 03:56:31,990
through the process is in and of itself.

2733
03:56:32,230 --> 03:56:33,070
Good news.

2734
03:56:33,390 --> 03:56:34,430
What is specific fabric?

2735
03:56:36,150 --> 03:56:36,370
Sorry.

2736
03:56:37,070 --> 03:56:40,290
They have a specific location to do enough for the ambulance bag.

2737
03:56:41,050 --> 03:56:42,350
Oh, OK.

2738
03:56:43,210 --> 03:56:48,390
That goes back in time to, I guess they,

2739
03:56:48,590 --> 03:56:53,550
I would say that what the county and the park have discussed,

2740
03:56:53,550 --> 03:56:55,950
and I think, tacitly agreed upon,

2741
03:56:55,950 --> 03:57:04,050
It is that the ambulance day would be constructed to me and adjacent to them in fire station.

2742
03:57:10,460 --> 03:57:10,960
Yeah.

2743
03:57:12,760 --> 03:57:16,080
Well, I mean, I think a lot of it has to do with the size of the existing.

2744
03:57:17,020 --> 03:57:19,360
That's basically a size of the ambulance itself.

2745
03:57:19,740 --> 03:57:22,080
And there's the original thing for it.

2746
03:57:22,180 --> 03:57:22,740
Yeah.

2747
03:57:23,000 --> 03:57:23,040
Yeah.

2748
03:57:23,220 --> 03:57:23,580
Exactly.

2749
03:57:24,160 --> 03:57:26,240
So that's what's happening on that.

2750
03:57:26,240 --> 03:57:30,340
The other item, I mean, it's really late.

2751
03:57:31,500 --> 03:57:34,840
So, the ammo on the ammo you, I think we've touched on that earlier.

2752
03:57:35,960 --> 03:57:40,140
I have been talking with our new client commissioner, our baguette,

2753
03:57:42,380 --> 03:57:43,820
who has, who is an

2754
03:57:43,820 --> 03:57:49,740
attorney and has practiced for quite a number of years in the area of water law.

2755
03:57:49,740 --> 03:58:13,020
And he has reached out to Jim Stahl and we're trying to schedule a meeting where the three of us can get together and talk about at least our vision is to how we want to present information for the committee to understand and discuss hopefully in some module of action.

2756
03:58:13,020 --> 03:58:27,760
So we're we need to get together and do that and and I think our arts part of his vision is to bring somebody from the state water resources control board into the conversation as well

2757
03:58:27,760 --> 03:58:37,240
So that we have all of the expertise that might be needed to have a productive conversation about water here in the world.

2758
03:58:37,240 --> 03:58:49,760
Yeah, I think if you're request to a microphone, and there's a lot of other ammo use that is on the referred to in ours.

2759
03:58:50,540 --> 03:58:54,760
And there's a lot of language in there that is quite important.

2760
03:58:55,760 --> 03:59:00,180
And when don't talk about it, we read some of them, I said it's the first time I've ever heard of that.

2761
03:59:00,180 --> 03:59:05,400
So I suggest to Kim that when the M.O.D. that we are to approve,

2762
03:59:05,500 --> 03:59:10,700
we refer to another M.O.D. that we have that kind of dimension that we could.

2763
03:59:11,540 --> 03:59:14,180
Well, I can certainly do that.

2764
03:59:14,480 --> 03:59:20,440
I mean, their references to what Ed is talking about for those who may not know.

2765
03:59:20,740 --> 03:59:28,280
I mean, their references to other M.O.D.s that have been negotiated between the county and the park with respect to, for example,

2766
03:59:29,960 --> 03:59:34,120
who is a property who owns a building who's responsible for maintenance.

2767
03:59:35,420 --> 03:59:36,680
That type of information.

2768
03:59:38,820 --> 03:59:40,420
Those emojis are separate.

2769
03:59:40,800 --> 03:59:43,260
So we're talking about the emojis.

2770
03:59:45,880 --> 03:59:46,980
I don't have my notes.

2771
03:59:47,200 --> 03:59:50,620
You refer to water issues and things like that.

2772
03:59:51,300 --> 03:59:52,300
Water issues?

2773
03:59:52,840 --> 03:59:54,280
That were in other documents.

2774
03:59:55,280 --> 03:59:56,180
Which I've never heard of.

2775
03:59:56,340 --> 03:59:56,920
Oh, okay.

2776
03:59:57,020 --> 03:59:58,520
So you're asking a different question.

2777
03:59:58,520 --> 03:59:59,960
Well, let me make sure

2778
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:10,900
We're in the MOU, if we first saw other documents, other agreements between the county and the parks, if we don't know those, we don't know them.

2779
04:00:11,240 --> 04:00:23,680
Okay, to my knowledge, there's nothing that exists between the county and the park regarding water. The references in the MOU are to agreements that have been negotiated by our departments.

2780
04:00:23,680 --> 04:00:30,680
So, for example, we're sure of his, you've created the Kelli Kelli and about law enforcement response.

2781
04:00:31,980 --> 04:00:38,020
So, those, though, that package, that, in what that will be, at least, in umbrella for those.

2782
04:00:38,420 --> 04:00:44,340
There are other documents that relate to water, that are not part of the M.O.U.

2783
04:00:44,340 --> 04:00:49,540
So, like, for example, there's, I think it's a mere two-meter-seven document that is,

2784
04:00:49,540 --> 04:00:56,520
parks, no observation plan with respect to MOU. Those are not more of the MOU between the county

2785
04:00:56,520 --> 04:01:05,740
and the mark, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't pull those documents together and create

2786
04:01:05,740 --> 04:01:13,300
a package that would be provided to the committee members prior to the meeting that we have to

2787
04:01:13,300 --> 04:01:17,120
about the immoduted principle topic of which is,

2788
04:01:17,300 --> 04:01:20,420
no, but it's not make sense.

2789
04:01:20,800 --> 04:01:22,300
No, we won't.

2790
04:01:36,500 --> 04:01:39,780
It's my understanding that it did pass the mystery here.

2791
04:01:44,460 --> 04:01:45,540
But you know, I'm not.

2792
04:01:45,560 --> 04:01:46,900
I am not a part of this inform.

2793
04:01:47,100 --> 04:01:49,070
So this is what I've heard.

2794
04:01:49,980 --> 04:01:50,420
That's what I'm all about.

2795
04:01:50,420 --> 04:01:51,080
I'm just a mother.

2796
04:01:51,560 --> 04:01:52,140
What level?

2797
04:01:52,540 --> 04:01:52,880
What level?

2798
04:01:53,600 --> 04:01:54,340
What was it?

2799
04:01:54,340 --> 04:01:55,720
The general system of the park.

2800
04:02:00,440 --> 04:02:07,300
I can't speak to the genesis. All I can tell you is that it was reviewed by internal

2801
04:02:07,300 --> 04:02:12,420
parts service lawyers. Mr. Chairman?

2802
04:02:13,240 --> 04:02:21,140
Yes. So we're not going to recap this issue today, but this all came about by virtue

2803
04:02:21,140 --> 04:02:24,900
of the fact that we are notified of these proposed changes to the MOU.

2804
04:02:25,980 --> 04:02:32,820
And I have, as an individual property on our wall on it, I have written to supervise

2805
04:02:32,820 --> 04:02:40,900
a small com Mr. Amford and you, Mr. Chairman, expressing my deep concerns about the level

2806
04:02:40,900 --> 04:02:49,020
of information and understanding this committee has with respect to this very, very complicated

2807
04:02:49,020 --> 04:02:57,520
issue. And I have been poor county staff, again, just on behalf of myself, not this committee,

2808
04:02:58,620 --> 04:03:04,300
although I think the committee ought to absolutely insist on it. I have been poor county

2809
04:03:04,300 --> 04:03:12,340
staff to do the necessary work to provide this committee with comprehensive background.

2810
04:03:13,440 --> 04:03:24,100
There is a, this is a really complex history to this MOU, and in particular, to the services that each side are to be provided.

2811
04:03:25,340 --> 04:03:39,360
And, I believe, that this kind of small change in language will have drastic consequences to all property owners in the womb in terms of the property value.

2812
04:03:39,360 --> 04:03:46,580
And if we're going to provide guidance to the Board of Supervisors with respect to and we should,

2813
04:03:47,300 --> 04:03:53,480
with respect to our recommendations as to whether or not to accept this language, reject it,

2814
04:03:54,020 --> 04:04:00,420
or come up with another solution, we're going to have to have a lot more information.

2815
04:04:00,420 --> 04:04:08,960
I know my wife Katie has spent hours and hours going back dozens and dozens of years and

2816
04:04:08,960 --> 04:04:17,440
we, this committee should have really significant concerns about what is being proposed at

2817
04:04:17,440 --> 04:04:25,060
the very least to fully understand it, talk about it, and come up with recommendations to

2818
04:04:25,060 --> 04:04:32,880
county and I've asked that county staff provide us that guidance and have offered in fact

2819
04:04:32,880 --> 04:04:40,480
to provide county staff with all of the information that we have on the cover, if they would

2820
04:04:40,480 --> 04:04:41,480
find that useful.

2821
04:04:42,660 --> 04:04:44,840
So I just wanted to speak that.

2822
04:04:45,540 --> 04:04:53,560
I don't want to come here on October to talk about this hugely impactful issue if we're not,

2823
04:04:53,560 --> 04:04:59,560
If a whole packet has not been released to fully understand it,

2824
04:04:59,580 --> 04:05:01,800
it's certain in terms of what action.

2825
04:05:02,100 --> 04:05:06,780
Talk about it and come up with recommendations to the county in advance

2826
04:05:08,200 --> 04:05:13,500
that county staff provide us that guidance and that offers the fact

2827
04:05:13,500 --> 04:05:17,240
to provide county staff with all of the information you have.

2828
04:05:17,240 --> 04:05:24,600
you guys don't call, you know.. if they did, if that is the generation you start.. so I just wanted to

2829
04:05:24,600 --> 04:05:28,860
just say that, I don't, I don't I've heard, I don't want to come here and I've got left, I have lost

2830
04:05:28,860 --> 04:05:35,740
question, if you're not, if you're not, you're there, I don't have to take it.

2831
04:05:35,900 --> 04:05:42,120
I just wanted to fake that. I don't want to come here and I've got left, I've got to talk about

2832
04:05:48,100 --> 04:05:55,220
It's a property in these discussions and that we're not left behind.

2833
04:05:55,340 --> 04:05:58,620
I heard a discussion today about imminent domain.

2834
04:05:59,000 --> 04:06:01,480
Guess what? That's still out there.

2835
04:06:01,640 --> 04:06:04,480
And that helps. We have to know more about that.

2836
04:06:05,100 --> 04:06:08,480
We need to know what happens if the park service washes its hands

2837
04:06:08,480 --> 04:06:15,660
of giving us sewer and water and what that means to us conveying our properties to others.

2838
04:06:16,180 --> 04:06:20,500
Or not just us, all of us, and we'll want what that means.

2839
04:06:20,600 --> 04:06:26,400
What the implications are for our property value, if we can't tell whoever it is that we

2840
04:06:26,400 --> 04:06:32,400
want to sell our property to, that they have a secure supply of water and sewer.

2841
04:06:33,980 --> 04:06:44,480
And frankly, the current language is unacceptable and nothing is going to impact you and all of our citizens in the world and more than this issue.

2842
04:06:45,200 --> 04:06:55,700
So we need help from the county staff to make sure that we have all of the information that we can consider before we meet again and talk about this issue.

2843
04:06:55,700 --> 04:07:01,980
I also suggest that we need to be at the table, a supervisor, a small guy.

2844
04:07:02,360 --> 04:07:04,960
I hear it, art bag it, you know, the other guy.

2845
04:07:05,360 --> 04:07:16,020
I hear it, but it's art property, it's our livelihood, let pack needs to have avoidance

2846
04:07:16,020 --> 04:07:21,760
and must have avoidance and should be involved in any discussions that occur with the park

2847
04:07:21,760 --> 04:07:22,200
service.

2848
04:07:22,200 --> 04:07:32,800
So to the extent that those discussions occur, I would hope that that we have a seat at the table and that this committee discusses who those people should be

2849
04:07:34,540 --> 04:07:37,540
because of the importance of this issue.

2850
04:07:38,380 --> 04:07:39,360
So enough say.

2851
04:07:40,980 --> 04:07:48,760
So I'd like to thank our junior committee member for giving us all the history lessons.

2852
04:07:48,760 --> 04:07:50,980
Ed, you need to press the button now.

2853
04:07:53,530 --> 04:07:55,090
For giving us a history lesson,

2854
04:07:55,930 --> 04:07:58,650
that some of these people that have won the committee now

2855
04:07:58,650 --> 04:08:02,450
have been here many years, Roger Chapp,

2856
04:08:04,090 --> 04:08:06,730
talking about 20 years, and some of them

2857
04:08:06,730 --> 04:08:08,990
looked at any members that went back to generations.

2858
04:08:09,490 --> 04:08:11,790
So we do understand that.

2859
04:08:11,950 --> 04:08:15,050
And our job is to make sure that the county

2860
04:08:15,050 --> 04:08:16,710
and the parks are the same as the county.

2861
04:08:18,070 --> 04:08:20,150
So don't let sure to the committee

2862
04:08:24,010 --> 04:08:27,470
I guess let me just, I

2863
04:08:30,320 --> 04:08:37,060
think I need to, I guess let me just put this out because I'm not sure exactly how we want to proceed.

2864
04:08:37,060 --> 04:08:38,700
In my mind,

2865
04:08:41,830 --> 04:08:49,030
there is so much information that has been created by the park.

2866
04:08:52,330 --> 04:08:54,510
There's information on the county side.

2867
04:08:55,510 --> 04:08:59,290
There's the information that Katie presented prepared, which is voluminous.

2868
04:08:59,750 --> 04:09:08,690
I think from my experience, all of that can be put into a packet that's released to the members.

2869
04:09:08,690 --> 04:09:28,630
along with other information that are just all whoever can identify, that we hope could pull it together at some level because there are pages and pages and pages and pages.

2870
04:09:28,670 --> 04:09:32,270
And I think the question really becomes one,

2871
04:09:35,180 --> 04:09:38,640
does the next meeting become the eight-hour meeting?

2872
04:09:38,640 --> 04:09:45,240
I mean, because if we, you know, the subject of water, I take your point, it's extremely

2873
04:09:45,240 --> 04:09:46,020
serious,

2874
04:09:48,340 --> 04:09:53,360
and it's not something that, especially if you want to go into all of that

2875
04:09:53,360 --> 04:09:59,220
history and including the conservation plan, for example, that was prepared about a bar.

2876
04:10:00,080 --> 04:10:01,780
That's a long, long meeting.

2877
04:10:02,220 --> 04:10:03,840
So I just want to bring that up.

2878
04:10:03,840 --> 04:10:08,600
We can put together a package that has large quantities of information.

2879
04:10:10,900 --> 04:10:13,000
It's going to take us time to get through that.

2880
04:10:13,280 --> 04:10:16,320
So we're going to have to think about the length of the next meeting.

2881
04:10:16,520 --> 04:10:17,860
And I appreciate your comments.

2882
04:10:18,300 --> 04:10:23,740
I guess in our experience with a board or committee,

2883
04:10:25,180 --> 04:10:29,980
staff is charged with preparing a staff report.

2884
04:10:29,980 --> 04:10:33,720
There's no staff report on this very important issue.

2885
04:10:34,340 --> 04:10:36,300
And so you're right, there's voluminous information,

2886
04:10:37,420 --> 04:10:40,360
but I think that the length of time of the meeting

2887
04:10:40,360 --> 04:10:47,720
would be shortened dramatically if staff were to prepare a report

2888
04:10:48,520 --> 04:10:53,960
of the history section with a consequences of no action

2889
04:10:53,960 --> 04:10:58,280
or adopting the language and with a possible

2890
04:11:00,020 --> 04:11:07,200
alternative solutions, and that's how the committee process has always worked in my experience.

2891
04:11:07,420 --> 04:11:15,320
And same thing with the Board of Supervisors, I'm sure staff prepares board reports for you, which has those essential elements,

2892
04:11:15,400 --> 04:11:21,020
so that your board meetings don't last days and weeks, because a lot of that has been sent this time.

2893
04:11:21,020 --> 04:11:30,240
And that's why I said other information yet to be generated, because that, I mean, I can't, I have no idea what that's going to be.

2894
04:11:30,720 --> 04:11:34,000
Our staff, they are not experts in water law.

2895
04:11:35,200 --> 04:11:39,520
So, you know, it'll be somewhere between our baggage and install myself.

2896
04:11:39,700 --> 04:11:49,120
I don't know who else, somebody from the State Water Resource Control Board, to pull together some re-information and maybe identify recommendations.

2897
04:11:50,040 --> 04:11:58,820
But yeah, it's going to be a big package and we're going to have to pull it together in some meaningful way otherwise we will never get to it.

2898
04:11:59,120 --> 04:12:02,840
But even so, I think it's going to be a very long conversation.

2899
04:12:04,020 --> 04:12:05,940
Go back to some of our minutes.

2900
04:12:06,800 --> 04:12:15,820
We had a meeting that we had the Forest Service, the Park Service, the geological survey that we've been done, we're all in attendance.

2901
04:12:17,080 --> 04:12:24,780
And it pretty much came to the point that the governing agencies had to act and they did not want to.

2902
04:12:25,620 --> 04:12:32,980
The water, the U.S. Geological Survey says, our answer to our own water is Billy B. Meadows.

2903
04:12:33,860 --> 04:12:39,100
And the four service who was in attendance said, we are not going to share our own words.

2904
04:12:39,100 --> 04:12:45,920
And that's pretty much where it's stopped because the river doesn't provide enough water.

2905
04:12:46,940 --> 04:12:53,840
And so, you know, if we're going to rehash the same thing, and I think nothing I'm giving up,

2906
04:12:54,100 --> 04:13:00,500
but the answer is, is the forest service, giving up some of their water runs.

2907
04:13:01,160 --> 04:13:05,380
Water comes to South entrance from Billy Dew, and to the Marathon's Gross.

2908
04:13:05,620 --> 04:13:07,380
Let's not get into that yet.

2909
04:13:07,380 --> 04:13:12,380
So I think, you know what I'm just saying, look at some of the history there, you'll see some stuff that we've already.

2910
04:13:12,540 --> 04:13:20,440
Okay, but Mike, as Rick mentioned, we'll have to put options, but in the summary report,

2911
04:13:20,720 --> 04:13:23,060
I'll call it for lack of a better term right now.

2912
04:13:25,080 --> 04:13:30,820
Whether or not that's a realistic option, I suppose we can include it, but then we get into the question,

2913
04:13:30,820 --> 04:13:38,700
I mean, this is huge, and it could take days to get through the whole thing, but my point

2914
04:13:38,700 --> 04:13:42,740
is simply that if let's say we identify that as an option,

2915
04:13:47,000 --> 04:13:50,840
I guess my preference, the way

2916
04:13:50,840 --> 04:13:56,480
that I tend to try to work, at least, would be to go to the Forest Service and say, are

2917
04:13:56,480 --> 04:13:58,300
you even willing to consider this?

2918
04:13:58,300 --> 04:14:04,140
And if their answer is not only no, but heck no, I'm going to have to put that into the report, right?

2919
04:14:04,500 --> 04:14:10,780
That says we approached, you know, Randy Moore, region five director, and he said, get out of my office.

2920
04:14:12,900 --> 04:14:27,720
So we can go through, but the options that have to be identified will be options that cover the waterfront, but they will, but they'll be annotated based on the expertise of the folks who create that report.

2921
04:14:28,460 --> 04:14:31,900
So, Randy is up in that position at that time.

2922
04:14:32,940 --> 04:14:33,840
Nobody is now.

2923
04:14:34,420 --> 04:14:36,600
So, if we want to try to ask the question,

2924
04:14:36,700 --> 04:14:37,480
we're going to ask it a very,

2925
04:14:37,820 --> 04:14:40,100
because they came from the district danger.

2926
04:14:41,840 --> 04:14:44,180
So, I appreciate that.

2927
04:14:44,180 --> 04:14:45,940
This is usually complex issue.

2928
04:14:47,260 --> 04:14:51,180
But really, the focus of our committee is

2929
04:14:51,180 --> 04:14:54,060
that the MPS by its language change

2930
04:14:54,060 --> 04:14:56,300
wants to watch the tans of that discussion.

2931
04:14:56,300 --> 04:14:59,900
They're saying, oh, I don't know. I don't know when we get it. Right. Yeah.

2932
04:15:00,080 --> 04:15:10,220
So, that's all. We don't need to come up with all the solutions for where the water comes from. We just want to make sure the park service is at the table when those solutions are developed.

2933
04:15:11,460 --> 04:15:23,680
I think we're in violent agreement. I mean, yes, the park service has to be at the table, and I believe they acknowledge that certainly in my conversations with Joe about, you know, this meeting.

2934
04:15:23,680 --> 04:15:29,480
It was like, he couldn't come, but we know we all acknowledge that we have to put together

2935
04:15:29,480 --> 04:15:35,340
a very substantive meeting that will be focused on the MOU, but really water.

2936
04:15:36,240 --> 04:15:41,020
And so, you know, in order for us to make real progress, I think you're right, we've got

2937
04:15:41,020 --> 04:15:42,300
to identify options.

2938
04:15:42,840 --> 04:15:45,340
They have to be options that are reasonable.

2939
04:15:47,260 --> 04:15:52,140
And if there was one that was floated that people don't want to let go of, then it's

2940
04:15:52,140 --> 04:15:56,240
matter of going to the Forest Service and say, you know, are you even willing to talk with

2941
04:15:56,240 --> 04:15:56,720
us?

2942
04:15:57,060 --> 04:16:00,060
If the answer is yes, then that's a viable option.

2943
04:16:00,480 --> 04:16:03,240
If the answer is no, never.

2944
04:16:03,860 --> 04:16:05,540
Well, we'll annotate it that way.

2945
04:16:06,540 --> 04:16:09,140
And, well, maybe focus on some of the other options more.

2946
04:16:09,980 --> 04:16:11,340
You have to have a reasonable answer.

2947
04:16:14,480 --> 04:16:20,580
I, you know, I, I do not understand telephony water law, which is why I'm so grateful

2948
04:16:20,580 --> 04:16:27,620
the art bag get into install or going to work with me on this. To get into that next level

2949
04:16:27,620 --> 04:16:34,160
of federal water law. Yeah, that is something who Jim Paul. Say what?

2950
04:16:34,180 --> 04:16:41,770
Could you explain who Jim Paul is? Art bag and Jim. Oh Jim stole. I'm sorry. I didn't

2951
04:16:41,770 --> 04:16:48,770
you explain to the group who he is. I'm not sure. Okay, so Jim is a property owner in

2952
04:16:48,770 --> 04:17:05,770
Number one, number two, as I understand it, he was the, I don't know, the principle, the director, the chief executive at Los Angeles Municipal Water Company, which is, as you can imagine, huge.

2953
04:17:07,650 --> 04:17:19,050
And he is now served, he's retired from that position and he's now serving on, I think it's called the Southern California Regional Water Quality Control Board.

2954
04:17:19,370 --> 04:17:21,530
I mean, I don't have the name except the right.

2955
04:17:21,590 --> 04:17:34,010
But he is someone who has considerable knowledge and expertise in water regulations, I'll say, as opposed to law.

2956
04:17:34,010 --> 04:17:40,010
and an operation of plants in various communities.

2957
04:17:40,450 --> 04:17:44,730
And he brought to you actually the expertise and data on that part of the planet.

2958
04:17:44,990 --> 04:17:46,490
The subjects and the impact.

2959
04:17:47,750 --> 04:17:49,350
With regional water quality and solar.

2960
04:17:50,970 --> 04:17:52,250
Not sure what year.

2961
04:17:52,970 --> 04:17:55,590
Just that these are well experienced people.

2962
04:17:57,650 --> 04:18:00,850
Now he reached out to me after the last full meeting that I attended.

2963
04:18:00,850 --> 04:18:08,570
And I happened to mention his name to our packet, and I said, if he's willing to talk to us, grabbing quickly.

2964
04:18:09,030 --> 04:18:24,450
So we did. And the fact that he's of a bone of property, obviously, is significant, just in terms of his knowledge of the community and his commitment to work in behalf of the community.

2965
04:18:24,450 --> 04:18:28,290
And to a point that you were making before,

2966
04:18:30,550 --> 04:18:34,410
we do have the ability in agreement and through

2967
04:18:34,410 --> 04:18:38,310
the percent of the monthments that hurt for them, but that's not a very specific one,

2968
04:18:38,590 --> 04:18:45,450
to talk to the part of any meeting between the county and the part service that has to do with

2969
04:18:45,450 --> 04:18:45,810
the woman.

2970
04:18:52,380 --> 04:18:56,780
It's also part of the community adopted purpose, I won't say it.

2971
04:18:56,780 --> 04:18:59,200
Well, that's a part of the idea.

2972
04:18:59,720 --> 04:19:00,160
No, no, no.

2973
04:19:00,160 --> 04:19:01,000
It's in the annual plan.

2974
04:19:01,220 --> 04:19:01,480
Oh, God.

2975
04:19:03,260 --> 04:19:03,720
And you're reporting.

2976
04:19:04,360 --> 04:19:04,860
I don't think so.

2977
04:19:06,280 --> 04:19:06,740
I don't think so.

2978
04:19:07,960 --> 04:19:08,780
There's an answer.

2979
04:19:09,100 --> 04:19:09,920
There's an action on this.

2980
04:19:10,060 --> 04:19:10,680
I don't know.

2981
04:19:11,740 --> 04:19:11,960
It's not.

2982
04:19:13,560 --> 04:19:13,640
Okay.

2983
04:19:14,120 --> 04:19:14,360
I'm sorry.

2984
04:19:14,840 --> 04:19:15,340
No, no.

2985
04:19:15,340 --> 04:19:15,640
I think.

2986
04:19:15,980 --> 04:19:18,200
Well, unless you folks have questions.

2987
04:19:18,440 --> 04:19:20,280
I mean, I think those are the two topics.

2988
04:19:20,780 --> 04:19:23,020
And we can add it for four and a half hours on this.

2989
04:19:23,820 --> 04:19:24,260
What?

2990
04:19:24,260 --> 04:19:28,940
Your pleasure, if there are other things that you would like me to talk about, I'm happy to be there.

2991
04:19:29,560 --> 04:19:31,680
Does anybody have any other questions about supervisor?

2992
04:19:32,960 --> 04:19:33,420
Just one.

2993
04:19:34,060 --> 04:19:37,520
You mentioned that the October 6 date might not work.

2994
04:19:39,460 --> 04:19:40,600
When will that be?

2995
04:19:41,060 --> 04:19:42,380
Is that on the county side?

2996
04:19:42,580 --> 04:19:43,720
Staff side or lower?

2997
04:19:43,820 --> 04:19:50,480
Well, it's our baggage install, county park service,

2998
04:19:50,480 --> 04:19:57,480
potentially state water resources control board. So we've got to coordinate. Yeah. Thank you.

2999
04:19:59,120 --> 04:20:04,920
Thank you very much. Okay, and the same you gave us a report from I guess.

3000
04:20:05,140 --> 04:20:05,360
Mark that.

3001
04:20:06,060 --> 04:20:06,960
As far as the position.

3002
04:20:07,520 --> 04:20:11,640
We don't have anybody here from the Park Service.

3003
04:20:12,240 --> 04:20:13,200
So there are other hearings.

3004
04:20:13,840 --> 04:20:16,960
So can I just reiterate in case people aren't aware.

3005
04:20:16,960 --> 04:20:21,860
there is a legislative hearing in the park. I think it's actually today.

3006
04:20:23,920 --> 04:20:25,960
And we missed it.

3007
04:20:31,060 --> 04:20:35,020
It's hard to say the staff was entirely consumed with getting ready for that,

3008
04:20:35,180 --> 04:20:38,480
as you can imagine. Not to mention dead tolerance is it a few days ago?

3009
04:20:39,420 --> 04:20:41,320
So apologies from the park.

3010
04:20:43,540 --> 04:20:47,040
Next I'm moving on down to future agenda items.

3011
04:20:48,640 --> 04:20:50,580
We'll want it all course of it.

3012
04:20:50,880 --> 04:20:52,700
I can give you real quick update.

3013
04:20:53,520 --> 04:20:57,360
Wayne and I drove the course, they're working on it.

3014
04:20:57,360 --> 04:20:59,200
They've got all the third ways of moving.

3015
04:21:00,240 --> 04:21:03,180
Two local golfers, but out in his phone,

3016
04:21:03,860 --> 04:21:08,340
but they play, sort of, that I don't know where to go.

3017
04:21:08,660 --> 04:21:11,360
The 70s pair of ways of moving is seven.

3018
04:21:11,720 --> 04:21:13,220
Seven, okay, yeah.

3019
04:21:13,220 --> 04:21:20,540
The golf course is kind of played, okay, the pretty good golf course and the only

3020
04:21:20,540 --> 04:21:21,860
golf course is being built.

3021
04:21:23,640 --> 04:21:26,640
But that's better than not getting open.

3022
04:21:28,200 --> 04:21:28,480
Yeah.

3023
04:21:28,480 --> 04:21:29,900
And then kind of goes on and on.

3024
04:21:30,720 --> 04:21:30,980
Okay.

3025
04:21:32,240 --> 04:21:35,020
Next is a community needs for water storage.

3026
04:21:35,580 --> 04:21:38,040
And again, these are items that could come up in the future.

3027
04:21:38,340 --> 04:21:39,560
And we're kind of preserving that.

3028
04:21:39,800 --> 04:21:41,820
Just kind of laying out there right now.

3029
04:21:42,460 --> 04:21:49,540
SDA camp or water project update, I can actually give you a nominal comment on that.

3030
04:21:49,580 --> 04:21:55,840
I did connect with them, finally, and go up and down the left of the ladder to do it.

3031
04:21:56,360 --> 04:22:01,560
And they are sending me, in fact, a puddle of something, you know, describing what they're doing.

3032
04:22:01,740 --> 04:22:06,920
But mostly, their focus right now is getting the Rhode Alliance correct and dealing with the importance

3033
04:22:06,920 --> 04:22:12,660
to have a part of the small lab, and they're very, they generally are pleased with the

3034
04:22:12,660 --> 04:22:19,760
way things you're doing. So nothing as far as a major development at this point, but that's

3035
04:22:19,760 --> 04:22:26,740
what they're up to. I need to pick up that again, that's something we'll come up again next year.

3036
04:22:27,740 --> 04:22:32,000
And update on the ambulance fan, I think the supervisor already gave us that update a little bit

3037
04:22:32,000 --> 04:22:35,580
So that takes us down to the last.

3038
04:22:36,440 --> 04:22:43,860
On that note, so our temporary or possible date is up to what?

3039
04:22:44,140 --> 04:22:45,100
I've come in six.

3040
04:22:45,400 --> 04:22:48,120
If I notice it by the end of that.

3041
04:22:49,000 --> 04:22:52,960
If we have one regularly scheduled meetings,

3042
04:22:53,760 --> 04:22:56,640
and more than the two or three times a year,

3043
04:22:58,480 --> 04:23:02,440
members of the board would be able to set their schedules

3044
04:23:02,440 --> 04:23:08,720
to be involved in. And the most important thing, the meetings would be shorter. The meetings

3045
04:23:08,720 --> 04:23:16,620
have, it's almost 1-3. So, you know, we try to do things that we're hoping that they

3046
04:23:16,620 --> 04:23:22,600
can fit the agenda, but it would help focus the discussions. But we have two fairly large discussions

3047
04:23:22,600 --> 04:23:29,700
between the, uh, what the counting is, takes care of with the, you know, waste, solve it with

3048
04:23:29,700 --> 04:23:35,460
management and all like it's just a way for them. We actually we will continue to try to keep

3049
04:23:35,460 --> 04:23:41,440
communities to have regular and discount meetings or are they just one need it.

3050
04:23:41,440 --> 04:23:47,820
It's based on bylaws. So each community's plans and meeting dates are based on bylaws.

3051
04:23:48,000 --> 04:23:54,960
Summer when needed others are set once a month, once every month so it's generally again based on bylaws.

3052
04:23:56,060 --> 04:23:58,580
So, we get fired if we missed three meetings.

3053
04:23:58,880 --> 04:23:59,840
You get fired, why?

3054
04:23:59,900 --> 04:24:01,060
If we missed three meetings.

3055
04:24:01,540 --> 04:24:01,580
Yes.

3056
04:24:01,760 --> 04:24:03,220
Three meetings, right?

3057
04:24:03,360 --> 04:24:03,940
Consec it.

3058
04:24:05,220 --> 04:24:05,440
No.

3059
04:24:05,760 --> 04:24:06,140
Of course.

3060
04:24:06,260 --> 04:24:08,320
That would be the good to do by law.

3061
04:24:09,320 --> 04:24:12,860
We make them so important, right?

3062
04:24:15,360 --> 04:24:16,400
That's not going to mean what we're going to do.

3063
04:24:16,460 --> 04:24:16,720
No.

3064
04:24:16,920 --> 04:24:18,360
We've got to do public meetings.

3065
04:24:18,380 --> 04:24:18,940
Public meetings.

3066
04:24:18,940 --> 04:24:19,880
Public meetings.

3067
04:24:20,640 --> 04:24:21,000
And notice.

3068
04:24:21,600 --> 04:24:24,640
So, none of our meetings could come by law.

3069
04:24:24,980 --> 04:24:26,240
So, yeah.

3070
04:24:27,120 --> 04:24:32,240
Yeah, as Richard suggested, you could set a committee,

3071
04:24:32,240 --> 04:24:38,440
consent committees, that might work, for example, on the developing the comments on the

3072
04:24:38,440 --> 04:24:43,300
STR study, and conceptually, obviously, the subcommittee would do the work, then they

3073
04:24:43,300 --> 04:24:49,440
bring something before the committee as a whole to weigh in on, before it goes to the

3074
04:24:49,440 --> 04:24:57,880
supervisors. But, and you can meet in groups that are less than the quorum, which here is

3075
04:24:57,880 --> 04:25:07,400
six. Although, you know, we, as board members, we try to, we try to limit the number of conversations

3076
04:25:07,400 --> 04:25:15,200
that we have about items of business, which is the term of art in this area, to discussions

3077
04:25:15,200 --> 04:25:20,580
in the door chambers. I might team up with another board member, for example, if I'm thinking

3078
04:25:21,100 --> 04:25:29,280
about some new ordinance and I want to get some feedback. But if it's something that's going

3079
04:25:29,280 --> 04:25:33,260
to come before the board, you have to be real, and in this case the committee, you have to be

3080
04:25:33,260 --> 04:25:38,280
pretty careful about who you're talking to and how many folks you're talking about.

3081
04:25:38,280 --> 04:25:42,000
that people have in the trial of free and in the lives that we could use soon.

3082
04:25:42,680 --> 04:25:45,220
We cannot undercurrent stay alive.

3083
04:25:45,440 --> 04:25:46,360
You can't use them.

3084
04:25:47,420 --> 04:25:54,420
The only, I mean, what, so I serve on a variety of ports and commissions in, like, ours

3085
04:25:54,420 --> 04:26:02,920
authority boards, but what, in what some have done, for example, I serve on the board for

3086
04:26:02,920 --> 04:26:13,620
the yards, the Yosemite area regional transit system, and what they do is they have meeting

3087
04:26:13,620 --> 04:26:23,740
location in, say, a man's legs, they have one in Fresno, they have one in Merced, they're

3088
04:26:23,740 --> 04:26:30,560
asking that we have one in their post. So I'll let our board clerk weigh in on where we are

3089
04:26:30,560 --> 04:26:37,560
But I mean, it becomes very complicated to do what we did under Zoom.

3090
04:26:38,780 --> 04:26:41,100
In fact, it's essentially impossible.

3091
04:26:41,300 --> 04:26:45,700
The only way that you could do it would be to ensure that if you,

3092
04:26:46,120 --> 04:26:49,580
if you and Alton and Chuck are calling in from another location,

3093
04:26:49,880 --> 04:26:56,280
that you would have to ensure that members of the public could freely access that location

3094
04:26:56,280 --> 04:27:04,200
and that your address, assuming it's coming up calling in from your home, is included on the

3095
04:27:04,200 --> 04:27:09,040
notice of the meeting. That's unfortunate. You're going to submit it. I have virtually

3096
04:27:09,040 --> 04:27:17,220
a fixed position too. You need to talk about the same thing in the phone. I'm just gonna come back.

3097
04:27:18,060 --> 04:27:25,660
No, I mean, COVID was a blessing in that we got to keep things moving through, but, you know,

3098
04:27:25,660 --> 04:27:31,080
remotely but we're pretty much

3099
04:27:31,080 --> 04:27:33,620
faction where we were pre-COVID in terms of

3100
04:27:33,620 --> 04:27:34,800
rainy meetings.

3101
04:27:37,600 --> 04:27:41,260
We have an ocean to the adjourn.

3102
04:27:42,320 --> 04:27:42,960
We have a second.

3103
04:27:43,860 --> 04:27:45,360
We've been sitting on favor.

3104
04:27:46,100 --> 04:27:46,620
I have a discussion.

3105
04:27:50,360 --> 04:27:53,620
So we adjourn at 1.30.

3106
04:27:55,820 --> 04:27:56,780
1.29.

3107
04:28:06,150 --> 04:28:08,450
Types are generally just clerical errors.

3108
04:28:08,590 --> 04:28:11,010
But if you want to go ahead and give them to me,

3109
04:28:11,010 --> 04:28:13,810
and I'll give them to the planning department when I get back to the office,

3110
04:28:14,350 --> 04:28:15,510
I just can't change them.

3111
04:28:16,470 --> 04:28:17,850
I don't have that actual document.